[Alpine-info] Seeking someone who..?
D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
n1ea at arrl.net
Wed Nov 29 09:54:52 PST 2023
I found the information, there's a new website unknown to me.
https://alpineapp.email/
Maybe put that URL in the README file. I am using an old version to avoid
the alpine password requirements. I suggest an override when compiling to
avoid it's use, some of us just use alpine in our homes, no hackers have
access to any files. --no-passwords perhaps?
Thanks, EC.
Best wishes,
DR
On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 7:29 AM D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea at arrl.net> wrote:
> Could how to configure oauth2 be added to the README file of alpine
> current?
>
> Regards,
>
> David
>
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 1:33 AM Eduardo Chappa <alpine.chappa at yandex.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 26 Nov 2023, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
>>
>> > To work, application specific passwords are necessary for both mutt and
>> > alpine, Carlos E.R. explains how to get these, however mutt has the
>> > ability to use oauth credentials which alpine doesn't seem to have
>> yet.
>> > Many people have gone over to mutt for this reason.
>>
>> oauth is deprecated, because it is insecure and Alpine never supported
>> it.
>> Alpine supports oauth2, which is widely deployed. You can login to Gmail,
>> Outlook, Yahoo!, and Yandex using Alpine.
>>
>> Google requires users of mutt and alpine to get their own client-id and
>> client-secret, so we are in equal footing there.
>>
>> For outlook, Alpine uses a universal client-id and client-secret for the
>> device method, and users choose to use Thunderbird's client-id and
>> client-secret for the authorize method. Mutt users also seem to be using
>> Thunderbird's id and secret. No difference there.
>>
>> For Yahoo!, alpine uses a device-like method, and I do not think mutt
>> users can use mutt to read their Yahoo! email, but that might be my
>> ignorance.
>>
>> For Yandex, users can use the given id and secret and do not need to get
>> their own. Mutt users probably need to do that.
>>
>> Alpine has had oauth2 support for years now. Feel free to spread the news
>> as you see fit, or do a search in your favorite search engine for
>> "xoauth2
>> alpine" to find how to configure it to login to the above named sites.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> --
>> Eduardo
>
>
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