[Alpine-info] Gmail Access

[Steve Litt via Alpine-info]

Carlos E. R. via Alpine-info said on Thu, 23 May 2024 15:21:13 +0200


>On 2024-05-23 12:20, Steve Litt via Alpine-info wrote:

>> Marc Lytle via Alpine-info said on Sat, 18 May 2024 16:59:04 -0700

>>   

>>> Hello all,

>>>

>>> I have set up Alpine with Gmail and I'm able to successfully connect

>>> to the Gmail account and access/send email. The issue is that this

>>> just stops working after a couple of days.  

>> 

>> Why gmail? It's notoriously difficult to deal with. Why not just buy

>> a domain for $15/year and use the mailing address(s) from that

>> domain?  

>

>You still need to hire something to host the mail.


Most domain registrars give you a free IMAP for the domain you register
with them.


>

>Instead, you could simply contract a mail account somewhere. 


This is another great alternative. But not as good, because it depends
on their staying in business and you retaining them, unless their IMAP
is based on a domain owned by you.


>You could 

>even contract Gmail for groups for a group of people; consider that

>the group administration sets the rules, so if the group decides "no 

>oauth2", then it is no oauth2 and simple passwords continue working.


I see no reason to trust Google for anything. They consistently mess
with people. If I remember correctly, they just up and cancelled all
their Google Groups (I could be wrong about this). In my opinion,
having any part of your workflow depend on Google invites
disappointment. Once upon a time their motto was "don't be evil", but
those days are long gone.


>

>And example of a group doing this is the ieee.org

>

>

>All these solutions pose a problem for the individual: he has to

>change mail address, and tell this to everybody, and resubscribe at

>every site or or organization, which is no small problem.


You're right. It's a whole day's work, or maybe a whole weekend's work.
But if the email involves a domain that belongs to you, you'll never
have to do it again, even if you change web hosts or registrars. The
best time to have done it was 20 years ago. The second best time to do
it is today.


>He would still need to keep the old gmail address and check it now and 

>then for posts going there.


I don't/can't check my old gmail address anymore. I just retain it so
that nobody else gets it and intercepts communication set to me.

SteveT

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