From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Thu Oct 3 17:40:03 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info) Date: Thu Oct 3 17:40:05 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] the solution! was exporting the alpine contact list to a file? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, this task can be done from the main address book option under Alpine. By choosing o for other commands, at least the option is here in the compile on the shell service managing my gmail account using Alpine. Thanks to Chime for his creative ideas, helped me think and keep searching. Cheers, Karen On Sun, 29 Sep 2024, Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info wrote: > Hi all, > need to gather several addresses for a work related fund raiser, and provide > those addresses to a staffer. > is there a way to capture my address book? say export the address book into > something with which I can work? > Thanks, > Karen > > > _______________________________________________ > Alpine-info mailing list > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Thu Oct 3 23:23:54 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info) Date: Thu Oct 3 23:32:15 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] 1000messages-and-Scrolling? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi chime, That seems quite odd. does fastmail have a message limit of some kind? As an example there is a dreamhost control panel setting that allows you to set a number of messages level before certain actions are taken..or that used to be the case. Speaking personally, unless your inbox has a buffer limit, that is a small number for a reaction. Karen On Sat, 21 Sep 2024, Chime Hart via Alpine-info wrote: > Well, I have a backlog of messages in an inbox through Fastmail. Funny as > soon as it hits 1000 every 7seconds the final screen from message 886-on > will scroll or at least in my screen-reader, it continues announcing this > group of messages, which I have sorted by arrival on the fly. Alot of times I > sit in an index at the last message waiting for incoming items. Thanks in > advance for your analysis. > Chime > _______________________________________________ > Alpine-info mailing list > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sun Oct 6 16:42:33 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info) Date: Sun Oct 6 16:42:35 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] alpineand browsers? Message-ID: Hi all, Perhaps a feature request. Granted I am unsure how Alpine decides what browser is used, as in when one follows a link in an email. Still, I am wondering if the ability to say have more than one option might be helpful? Especially for Linux users where sites may react oddly to anything that does not look like a windows tool? Just a thought, Karen From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sun Oct 6 16:55:54 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Chime Hart via Alpine-info) Date: Sun Oct 6 16:55:59 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] alpineand browsers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0364ac08-013b-b227-a0de-46ed303f2af2@hubert-humphrey.com> Hi Karen: I can at least answer your first question. You would have an entry in your .pinerc file such as the following url-viewers="/usr/bin/lynx -cfg /home/chime/lynx.cfg -nested-tables _URL_" So I can just mash enter on a URL-and-it really helps. Chime From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sun Oct 6 16:58:10 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Jake Johnson via Alpine-info) Date: Sun Oct 6 16:58:26 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] alpineand browsers? In-Reply-To: <0364ac08-013b-b227-a0de-46ed303f2af2@hubert-humphrey.com> References: <0364ac08-013b-b227-a0de-46ed303f2af2@hubert-humphrey.com> Message-ID: Unsubscribe On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 1:56?PM Chime Hart via Alpine-info < alpine-info@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Hi Karen: I can at least answer your first question. You would have an > entry in > your .pinerc file such as the following > url-viewers="/usr/bin/lynx -cfg /home/chime/lynx.cfg -nested-tables _URL_" > > So I can just mash enter on a URL-and-it really helps. > Chime > _______________________________________________ > Alpine-info mailing list > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sun Oct 6 19:29:48 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info) Date: Sun Oct 6 19:29:49 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] alpineand browsers? In-Reply-To: <0364ac08-013b-b227-a0de-46ed303f2af2@hubert-humphrey.com> References: <0364ac08-013b-b227-a0de-46ed303f2af2@hubert-humphrey.com> Message-ID: Hi Chime, If my current shellworld experience is teaching me anything, its that little expected file wise is the case smiles. Kare On Sun, 6 Oct 2024, Chime Hart wrote: > Hi Karen: I can at least answer your first question. You would have an entry > in your .pinerc file such as the following > url-viewers="/usr/bin/lynx -cfg /home/chime/lynx.cfg -nested-tables _URL_" > > So I can just mash enter on a URL-and-it really helps. > Chime > > From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Mon Oct 7 02:15:58 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Rob Wolfconf via Alpine-info) Date: Mon Oct 7 02:16:13 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] alpineand browsers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 1:43?AM Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info wrote: > Perhaps a feature request. > Granted I am unsure how Alpine decides what browser is used, as in when > one follows a link in an email. > Still, I am wondering if the ability to say have more than one option might > be helpful? > Especially for Linux users where sites may react oddly to anything that > does not look like a windows tool? > Just a thought, > Karen Hello Karen, Chime answered you how to set the browser in alpine using url-viewers. Normal user would probably use gnome-www-browser, www-browser or x-www-browser, which can be symlinks to specific browsers or to xdg-open, which decides itself what application to start, for URL it choose some web browser. As it says "viewers" there can be multiple "browsers" (in fact, it can be any program of your choice). Please, use help to see exact syntax. You can defined different browsers according to different test conditions. After clicking on the link, alpine choose the first "browser" according to conditions. Then you still can edit URL and/or application (browser) before starting it. You can create some browser wrappers with short names (e.g. ff or chr) which would start firefox or google-chrome, so you don't need to write the whole command in alpine. If you are advanced user, you can write your own wrapper script, either using e.g. zenity or simple read to select the browser, or let script to choose the browser according to URL domain. Personaly I have script which stores the URL to the clipboard and then I can decide, where I want to paste it - in the browser and which browser or messaging system or somewhere else. Alpine is not as simple as thunderbird or outlook are. It requires a little bit more knowledge from user but it offers more flexibility than thunderbird or outlook. TB/Outlook just start browser on URL click. Alpine does the same by default, but you can configure it to work according to your needs, but you have to do it yourself. I believe your "feature request" is already implemented :-) Regards, Robert. From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Mon Oct 7 04:58:10 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Karl Lindauer via Alpine-info) Date: Mon Oct 7 04:58:17 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] alpineand browsers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually, silly question may you can help me with, loosely related to this thread. I use Linux Mint and Alpine, works fine for years. I recently upgraded to the newest version of Linux Mint and now Alpine has no idea how to open any applications on my computer for things like PDF files, image files, etc. But, the defaults are all set fine on my computer, if I double click a PDF or image, it opens the correct viewer. Just Alpine seems to have no idea how to open these files. Any ideas how I can fix this? Thanks Karl On Mon, 7 Oct 2024, Rob Wolfconf via Alpine-info wrote: > On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 1:43?AM Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info > wrote: >> Perhaps a feature request. >> Granted I am unsure how Alpine decides what browser is used, as in when >> one follows a link in an email. >> Still, I am wondering if the ability to say have more than one option might >> be helpful? >> Especially for Linux users where sites may react oddly to anything that >> does not look like a windows tool? >> Just a thought, >> Karen > > Hello Karen, > > Chime answered you how to set the browser in alpine using url-viewers. > Normal user would probably use gnome-www-browser, www-browser or > x-www-browser, which can be symlinks to specific browsers or to > xdg-open, which decides itself what application to start, for URL it > choose some web browser. > > As it says "viewers" there can be multiple "browsers" (in fact, it can > be any program of your choice). Please, use help to see exact syntax. > You can defined different browsers according to different test > conditions. > > After clicking on the link, alpine choose the first "browser" > according to conditions. Then you still can edit URL and/or > application (browser) before starting it. You can create some browser > wrappers with short names (e.g. ff or chr) which would start firefox > or google-chrome, so you don't need to write the whole command in > alpine. > > If you are advanced user, you can write your own wrapper script, > either using e.g. zenity or simple read to select the browser, or let > script to choose the browser according to URL domain. > > Personaly I have script which stores the URL to the clipboard and then > I can decide, where I want to paste it - in the browser and which > browser or messaging system or somewhere else. > > Alpine is not as simple as thunderbird or outlook are. It requires a > little bit more knowledge from user but it offers more flexibility > than thunderbird or outlook. TB/Outlook just start browser on URL > click. Alpine does the same by default, but you can configure it to > work according to your needs, but you have to do it yourself. > > I believe your "feature request" is already implemented :-) > > Regards, > Robert. > _______________________________________________ > Alpine-info mailing list > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Mon Oct 7 08:01:52 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Joshua Miller via Alpine-info) Date: Mon Oct 7 08:02:13 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] alpineand browsers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you don't get a good answer to this, you may want to ask on a Mint support site/list since that seems to be a change between Mint releases. That said, I'd start by trying: sudo apt install mime-support shared-mime-info I'm not sure if those are the culprit, but that seems likely to me since a lot of the handlers end up using mime types to determine the handler. HTH, -- Josh I. On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 7:58?AM Karl Lindauer via Alpine-info < alpine-info@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > Actually, silly question may you can help me with, loosely related to this > thread. > > I use Linux Mint and Alpine, works fine for years. I recently upgraded > to the newest version of Linux Mint and now Alpine has no idea how to open > any applications on my computer for things like PDF files, image files, > etc. But, the defaults are all set fine on my computer, if I double > click a PDF or image, it opens the correct viewer. Just Alpine seems to > have no idea how to open these files. > > Any ideas how I can fix this? > > Thanks > Karl > > > On Mon, 7 Oct 2024, Rob Wolfconf via Alpine-info wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 1:43?AM Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info > > wrote: > >> Perhaps a feature request. > >> Granted I am unsure how Alpine decides what browser is used, as in when > >> one follows a link in an email. > >> Still, I am wondering if the ability to say have more than one option > might > >> be helpful? > >> Especially for Linux users where sites may react oddly to anything that > >> does not look like a windows tool? > >> Just a thought, > >> Karen > > > > Hello Karen, > > > > Chime answered you how to set the browser in alpine using url-viewers. > > Normal user would probably use gnome-www-browser, www-browser or > > x-www-browser, which can be symlinks to specific browsers or to > > xdg-open, which decides itself what application to start, for URL it > > choose some web browser. > > > > As it says "viewers" there can be multiple "browsers" (in fact, it can > > be any program of your choice). Please, use help to see exact syntax. > > You can defined different browsers according to different test > > conditions. > > > > After clicking on the link, alpine choose the first "browser" > > according to conditions. Then you still can edit URL and/or > > application (browser) before starting it. You can create some browser > > wrappers with short names (e.g. ff or chr) which would start firefox > > or google-chrome, so you don't need to write the whole command in > > alpine. > > > > If you are advanced user, you can write your own wrapper script, > > either using e.g. zenity or simple read to select the browser, or let > > script to choose the browser according to URL domain. > > > > Personaly I have script which stores the URL to the clipboard and then > > I can decide, where I want to paste it - in the browser and which > > browser or messaging system or somewhere else. > > > > Alpine is not as simple as thunderbird or outlook are. It requires a > > little bit more knowledge from user but it offers more flexibility > > than thunderbird or outlook. TB/Outlook just start browser on URL > > click. Alpine does the same by default, but you can configure it to > > work according to your needs, but you have to do it yourself. > > > > I believe your "feature request" is already implemented :-) > > > > Regards, > > Robert. > > _______________________________________________ > > Alpine-info mailing list > > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > _______________________________________________ > Alpine-info mailing list > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Mon Oct 7 08:07:42 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Karl Lindauer via Alpine-info) Date: Mon Oct 7 08:08:16 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] alpineand browsers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1a27bd2c-5f1e-d196-a9ea-431783ff3c6b@rutgers.edu> Thanks Josh! That actually did the trick. I got a message that the mime-support was replaced by a different name, but as soon as I installed it, VIOLA! Problem solved. Thanks! On Mon, 7 Oct 2024, Joshua Miller wrote: > If you don't get a good answer to this, you may want to ask on a Mint support site/list since that seems to be a change between Mint releases. That said, > I'd start by trying: > sudo apt install mime-support shared-mime-info > > I'm not sure if those are the culprit, but that seems likely to me since a lot of the handlers end up using mime types to determine the handler. > > HTH, > -- > Josh I. > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 7:58?AM Karl Lindauer via Alpine-info wrote: > > Actually, silly question may you can help me with, loosely related to this > thread. > > I use Linux Mint and Alpine, works fine for years.? ?I recently upgraded > to the newest version of Linux Mint and now Alpine has no idea how to open > any applications on my computer for things like PDF files, image files, > etc.? ? But, the defaults are all set fine on my computer, if I double > click a PDF or image, it opens the correct viewer.? ?Just Alpine seems to > have no idea how to open these files. > > Any ideas how I can fix this? > > Thanks > Karl > > > On Mon, 7 Oct 2024, Rob Wolfconf via Alpine-info wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 1:43?AM Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info > > wrote: > >> Perhaps a feature request. > >> Granted I am unsure how Alpine decides what browser is used, as in when > >> one follows a link in an email. > >> Still, I am wondering if the ability to say have more than one option might > >> be helpful? > >> Especially? for Linux users where sites may react oddly to anything that > >> does not look like? a windows tool? > >> Just a thought, > >> Karen > > > > Hello Karen, > > > > Chime answered you how to set the browser in alpine using url-viewers. > > Normal user would probably use gnome-www-browser, www-browser or > > x-www-browser, which can be symlinks to specific browsers or to > > xdg-open, which decides itself what application to start, for URL it > > choose some web browser. > > > > As it says "viewers" there can be multiple "browsers" (in fact, it can > > be any program of your choice). Please, use help to see exact syntax. > > You can defined different browsers according to different test > > conditions. > > > > After clicking on the link, alpine choose the first "browser" > > according to conditions. Then you still can edit URL and/or > > application (browser) before starting it. You can create some browser > > wrappers with short names (e.g. ff or chr) which would start firefox > > or google-chrome, so you don't need to write the whole command in > > alpine. > > > > If you are advanced user, you can write your own wrapper script, > > either using e.g. zenity or simple read to select the browser, or let > > script to choose the browser according to URL domain. > > > > Personaly I have script which stores the URL to the clipboard and then > > I can decide, where I want to paste it - in the browser and which > > browser or messaging system or somewhere else. > > > > Alpine is not as simple as thunderbird or outlook are. It requires a > > little bit more knowledge from user but it offers more flexibility > > than thunderbird or outlook. TB/Outlook just start browser on URL > > click. Alpine does the same by default, but you can configure it to > > work according to your needs, but you have to do it yourself. > > > > I believe your "feature request" is already implemented :-) > > > > Regards, > > Robert. > > _______________________________________________ > > Alpine-info mailing list > > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info_______________________________________________ > Alpine-info mailing list > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > > > From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Mon Oct 7 08:31:43 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Lucio Chiappetti via Alpine-info) Date: Mon Oct 7 08:31:57 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] alpineand browsers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Oct 2024, Rob Wolfconf via Alpine-info wrote: > On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 1:43???AM Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info >> Granted I am unsure how Alpine decides what browser is used, as in when >> one follows a link in an email. > Chime answered you how to set the browser in alpine using url-viewers. > Normal user would probably use gnome-www-browser, www-browser or > x-www-browser ... Hmm .. personally I would never use those "canned desktop solutions" (nor any canned desktop, I am happy with fvwm). Myu url-voewers currently points to /usr/bin/palemoon, mny favourite browser. In the past I recall I had a wrapper script there Anyhow, press M S C to go to config editor (.pinerc), locate url-viewers, and press ? for help. Then experiment. I am no sure I ever tried with more than one browser, and whether there is a way to choose and cycle through a list. -- The Great Dumbening(tm) started the day smartphone internet traffic overtook that of desktop PCs. (user moonbat on https://forum.palemoon.org 12 Aug 2024 04:21) From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sun Oct 13 11:04:43 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Chime Hart via Alpine-info) Date: Sun Oct 13 11:04:48 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] Activating Mail which was on Shellworld? Message-ID: <0bf14ad0-b4a9-ec9e-e5f3-b42a1c9c85bc@hubert-humphrey.com> Hi All: This may be a little complicated? I had 7961 messages in an inbox on Shellworld, located in a directory Maildir/cur all these items began with a number 1. So I zipped them up-and-downloaded to my local machine. My home machine gets its mail from Fastmail, eventually ending up in /var/mail/Chime the file Chime has all the current messages. So, even after unzipping in to that directory, those messages are not active in any folder. I would want an additional folder, maybe call it "rss" as majority of items are news articles. Once in a folder I can work on saving these articles to locations. Thanks so much in advance for suggestions. Chime From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sun Oct 13 15:08:12 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Chime Hart via Alpine-info) Date: Sun Oct 13 15:08:18 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] Activating Mail which was on Shellworld? In-Reply-To: References: <0bf14ad0-b4a9-ec9e-e5f3-b42a1c9c85bc@hubert-humphrey.com> Message-ID: <8b8a7a84-9932-3aa4-2ca3-5fbd61ef4882@hubert-humphrey.com> Thank you Dan for your comprehensive analysis. I will examin those links you provided. Ultimately I would rather not mix these 2 groups of messages. Rather a separate folde, as I had for Clari news-groups. Now, you mentioned "tldr" I installed here in Debian SID, but seemingly has nothing to do with mail, maybe an abreviation for something else. Thanks so much in advance Chime