From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sun Sep 1 05:44:38 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Carlos E. R. via Alpine-info) Date: Sun Sep 1 05:44:56 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] Where do removed messages go In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51110e2b-7df6-4f48-8d97-e4a286902318@telefonica.net> On 2024-08-31 17:14, Eduardo Chappa via Alpine-info wrote: > On Sat, 31 Aug 2024, Bret Busby via Alpine-info wrote: > >> Hello. >> >> I am running alpine 2.25 on Linux Mint Mate 21.3 . >> >> I have just exited alpine, a few minutes ago, and it displayed a message >> stating that, for the folder that I was exiting,? a number of messages >> were saved, and, 1 message was removed. >> >> I do not know why it removed whichever message it removed. > > Dear Bret, > > ? I am sorry this happened. I am not aware of any circumstances under > which Alpine would remove messages, except filtering. I imagine you do > not have debug information that could be analyzed. I have, on occasion, seen on exiting a folder a message asking permission to purge deleted messages. If I did not remember having deleted messages, I say no, go back in to the folder, and find out the message marked for deletion which I had forgotten about or not noticed that I had done something that would result in deletion, like moving a message to another folder (maybe automatically after reading, I do not remember why). I do not remember now if there is some option to not purge automatically but ask. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OpenPGP_signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 209 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Fri Sep 6 05:14:08 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Carlos E. R. via Alpine-info) Date: Fri Sep 6 05:14:14 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] Sometimes, Alpine forgets the password. Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sometimes, Alpine forgets the password for one of the accounts, that should have been saved weeks or months ago. Like this morning, computer resumes from hibernation and it asks for the password of one account. Ctrl-C, asks again and again, maybe a dozen times. Yesterday it worked fine, and pine has not been restarted. What is going on? This is sporadic, like once a month or several months. Normally the only way out is to type the account password and tell it to file for ever. This time I'll leave it in this status just in case someone knows some trick to make it trust the password in storage or extract information about why it is doing this. cer@Telcontar:~> l .pinepw - -rw------- 1 cer users 1659 Sep 2 14:18 .pinepw cer@Telcontar:~> cer@Telcontar:~> date 2024-09-06T14:10:42 CEST cer@Telcontar:~> cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qi alpine Name : alpine Version : 2.26 Release : lp155.124.2 Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: 2024-06-21T14:52:29 CEST Group : Productivity/Networking/Email/Clients Size : 10312915 License : Apache-2.0 Signature : DSA/SHA1, 2024-06-03T09:55:19 CEST, Key ID 09e86b94367fe7fc Source RPM : alpine-2.26-lp155.124.2.src.rpm Build Date : 2024-06-03T09:54:54 CEST Build Host : h02-ch2d Relocations : (not relocatable) Packager : https://www.suse.com/ Vendor : obs://build.opensuse.org/server:mail URL : https://alpineapp.email/ Summary : Mail User Agent Description : Alpine is a display-oriented email client that is suitable for both the inexperienced email user as well as for the most demanding of power users. Alpine is based on the Pine? Message System, which was also developed at the University of Washington. Alpine can be learned by exploration and the use of context-sensitive help. The user experience is highly customizable through the use of the Alpine Setup command. Distribution: server:mail / 15.5 cer@Telcontar:~> - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCZtryEBwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVV2EAn16czaakAchoiKyKW1za LdlPWGGsAJ9PoOIQKSyKYRAVkKzRXfmZiMQpfA== =WLsq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Fri Sep 6 07:21:16 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Eduardo Chappa via Alpine-info) Date: Fri Sep 6 07:21:25 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] Sometimes, Alpine forgets the password. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2f9b1877-a3f6-aca3-5c89-6e20044370a8@yandex.com> On Fri, 6 Sep 2024, Carlos E. R. via Alpine-info wrote: > Sometimes, Alpine forgets the password for one of the accounts, that > should have been saved weeks or months ago. Like this morning, computer > resumes from hibernation and it asks for the password of one account. > Ctrl-C, asks again and again, maybe a dozen times. Dear Carlos, for some reason authentication failed once. I cannot say why, it might have been an error in Alpine, as well as it might have been an error at the server side. This failure Alpine forget the password and it asks you for it again. What is surprising me is that ^C does nothing. Can you confirm this with me? That should not be the case. I realize that the authentication flow in Alpine is not right, but this makes no sense either. If your Alpine has debug symbols you can start another copy of Alpine under gdb and attach to the other version of Alpine. This makes you gain control on the running version and step through the process to see where it is failing. I hope this helps. -- Eduardo From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Fri Sep 6 13:04:48 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Damion Yates via Alpine-info) Date: Fri Sep 6 13:04:55 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] Sometimes, Alpine forgets the password. In-Reply-To: <2f9b1877-a3f6-aca3-5c89-6e20044370a8@yandex.com> References: <2f9b1877-a3f6-aca3-5c89-6e20044370a8@yandex.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Sep 2024, Eduardo Chappa via Alpine-info wrote: > On Fri, 6 Sep 2024, Carlos E. R. via Alpine-info wrote: > >> Sometimes, Alpine forgets the password for one of the accounts, that >> should have been saved weeks or months ago. Like this morning, >> computer resumes from hibernation and it asks for the password of one >> account. Ctrl-C, asks again and again, maybe a dozen times. > > for some reason authentication failed once. I cannot say why, it might > have been an error in Alpine, as well as it might have been an error > at the server side. This failure Alpine forget the password and it > asks you for it again. What is surprising me is that ^C does nothing. > Can you confirm this with me? That should not be the case. I realize > that the authentication flow in Alpine is not right, but this makes no > sense either. > > If your Alpine has debug symbols you can start another copy of Alpine > under gdb and attach to the other version of Alpine. This makes you > gain control on the running version and step through the process to > see where it is failing. I've noticed that if anything goes wrong with auth then alpine just goes into a?loop where it?doesn't really cope with reconnecting. I need to cancel and sometimes quit alpine and then start afresh for it to properly attempt to reconnect with its stored credentials. ^C and using "y" to ask it to try again just rapidly repeats. This makes it seem to have lost credentials, but it's clearly able to cope if I reconnect. I didn't bother reporting this as it's trivial to work around. Best wishes, - Damion From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Fri Sep 6 14:46:03 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Carlos E. R. via Alpine-info) Date: Fri Sep 6 14:46:10 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] Sometimes, Alpine forgets the password. In-Reply-To: <2f9b1877-a3f6-aca3-5c89-6e20044370a8@yandex.com> References: <2f9b1877-a3f6-aca3-5c89-6e20044370a8@yandex.com> Message-ID: On 2024-09-06 16:21, Eduardo Chappa via Alpine-info wrote: > On Fri, 6 Sep 2024, Carlos E. R. via Alpine-info wrote: > >> Sometimes, Alpine forgets the password for one of the accounts, that >> should have been saved weeks or months ago. Like this morning, >> computer resumes from hibernation and it asks for the password of one >> account. Ctrl-C, asks again and again, maybe a dozen times. > > Dear Carlos, > > ? for some reason authentication failed once. I cannot say why, it > might have been an error in Alpine, as well as it might have been an > error at the server side. This failure Alpine forget the password and it > asks you for it again. What is surprising me is that ^C does nothing. > Can you confirm this with me? That should not be the case. I realize > that the authentication flow in Alpine is not right, but this makes no > sense either. I get this prompt: HOST: imap.gmx.com USER: robin.listas@gmx.es ENTER PASSWORD: ^G Help ^C Cancel Ret Accept ^G: Type your password for the host and login shown as part of the prompt. Press ^C to cancel opening folder. If I hit enter (not entering a password) it tries for a second or two, and the prompt reappears: Retrying - HOST: imap.gmx.com USER: robin.listas@gmx.es ENTER PASSWORD: ^G Help ^C Cancel Ret Accept I hit ^C now, I get back to the menu. The thing is, the password is stored for sure, it has been using it for weeks, in the same session. I think that if I exit Alpine, on new entry it does not remember the password. This morning, I was asked again after ^C, the prompt reappeared many times, maybe with a delay of a second or less. And the file has changed timestamp. cer@Telcontar:~> l .pinepw -rw------- 1 cer users 1659 Sep 6 23:41 .pinepw cer@Telcontar:~> > If your Alpine has debug symbols you can start another copy of Alpine > under gdb and attach to the other version of Alpine. This makes you gain > control on the running version and step through the process to see where > it is failing. > > I hope this helps. Can you expand information on the process to do this? I'm not sure I would be able to do it, anyway, but I don't understand the process to start. What is important is why it apparently deletes the password entry, instead of just trying again after a delay with the stored credentials, and asking the user to choose retry with same credentials or type then again. Would it help to change permissions to read only? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OpenPGP_signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 209 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sun Sep 8 13:58:35 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Carlos E. R. via Alpine-info) Date: Sun Sep 8 13:58:43 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] How to connect to ieee.org mail account? Message-ID: <013596a9-00bd-9c97-5f6c-f175fd589a06@telefonica.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I had my ieee account working in alpine, but since some months it doesn't work. incoming-folders= "imap ieee" {imap.gmail.com/ssl/user=USERNAME@ieee.org}INBOX, I have verified in Thunderbird the user and password, they are correct, the same I use in Alpine. But Alpine says incorrect password. [>Retrying PLAIN authentication after [AUTHENTICATIONFAILED] Invalid credentials (Failure)<] Retrying - HOST: wl-in-f108.1e100.net USER: USERNAME@ieee.org ENTER PASSWORD: It is possible that ieee has switched to oauth2 as well, but they have not said anything about it (or I haven't noticed). Anyone is using an ieee account, how do you have it configured in Alpine? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCZt4P+xwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVNXgAnitD2K9WO+IsL3SGNhHe cAAGTk21AKCIyKtvKfiGmvfhPOn/4uAQCgp+HA== =96m7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sun Sep 8 14:59:54 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Andrew C Aitchison via Alpine-info) Date: Sun Sep 8 15:00:07 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] How to connect to ieee.org mail account? In-Reply-To: <013596a9-00bd-9c97-5f6c-f175fd589a06@telefonica.net> References: <013596a9-00bd-9c97-5f6c-f175fd589a06@telefonica.net> Message-ID: <9b289173-0474-eaa8-baad-2604783aba4d@aitchison.me.uk> On Sun, 8 Sep 2024, Carlos E. R. via Alpine-info wrote: > Hi, > > I had my ieee account working in alpine, but since some months it doesn't > work. > > incoming-folders= > > "imap ieee" {imap.gmail.com/ssl/user=USERNAME@ieee.org}INBOX, So gmail provide the ieee email service; I suspect that that means you have to follow the gmail login steps. https://workspaceupdates.googleblog.com/2023/09/winding-down-google-sync-and-less-secure-apps-support.html says: Beginning September 30, 2024: third-party apps that use only a password to access Google Accounts and Google Sync will no longer be supported (that page also mentions a June 15 cutoff date). I understand that this will leave just three options: App Passwords https://support.google.com/mail/answer/185833 OAuth, or forwarding the messages to a sane email service (which I would not wish to do with an ieee address, because that is just wrong). -- Andrew C. Aitchison Kendal, UK andrew@aitchison.me.uk From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sun Sep 8 15:23:32 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Carlos E. R. via Alpine-info) Date: Sun Sep 8 15:23:41 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] How to connect to ieee.org mail account? In-Reply-To: <9b289173-0474-eaa8-baad-2604783aba4d@aitchison.me.uk> References: <013596a9-00bd-9c97-5f6c-f175fd589a06@telefonica.net> <9b289173-0474-eaa8-baad-2604783aba4d@aitchison.me.uk> Message-ID: <0944dd6c-47cd-4602-b2fe-baad328f10ad@telefonica.net> On 2024-09-08 23:59, Andrew C Aitchison via Alpine-info wrote: > On Sun, 8 Sep 2024, Carlos E. R. via Alpine-info wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I had my ieee account working in alpine, but since some months it >> doesn't work. >> >> incoming-folders= >> >> ?????? "imap ieee"? {imap.gmail.com/ssl/user=USERNAME@ieee.org}INBOX, > > So gmail provide the ieee email service; > I suspect that that means you have to follow the gmail login steps. > > https://workspaceupdates.googleblog.com/2023/09/winding-down-google-sync-and-less-secure-apps-support.html > says: > ? Beginning September 30, 2024: It has been failing since months. I need the specific configuration of ieee, sorry, not a generic gmail. Gmail I can handle. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OpenPGP_signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 209 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Wed Sep 11 04:25:57 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (DIXON, MARK C. via Alpine-info) Date: Wed Sep 11 04:26:04 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] Examining contents of alpine's passfile? Message-ID: Hello, I'd like to take a look at the credentials from my alpine's passfile. Some likely-looking openssl foo returned jibberish: openssl smime -decrypt -inform pem -in -inkey .alpine-smime/.pwd/MasterPassword.key Is there a simple way to examine the contents please, or do I need to start looking at the source code? Best, Mark From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Wed Sep 11 12:18:23 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (via Alpine-info) Date: Wed Sep 11 12:18:38 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] Examining contents of alpine's passfile? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I'd like to take a look at the credentials from my alpine's passfile. > Some likely-looking openssl foo returned jibberish: > > openssl smime -decrypt -inform pem -in -inkey > .alpine-smime/.pwd/MasterPassword.key > > Is there a simple way to examine the contents please, or do I need to > start looking at the source code? The passfile is obfuscated (a throw-back to the days before strong crypto was available), and there is no standalone utility to de-obfuscate it. The source is in alpine/imap.c, in xlate_in() and xlate_out(). Once, when I had a similar need, I took those routines and dropped them more-or-less verbatim into perl, and it worked as expected. YMMV... https://pastebin.com/JVVRf2gy -Jason From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Thu Sep 12 02:47:33 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Mark Dixon via Alpine-info) Date: Thu Sep 12 02:47:43 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] Examining contents of alpine's passfile? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <826957a0-8fa8-7051-34a4-543bc3da2038@durham.ac.uk> Hi Jason, Thanks, that's a big help! Best, Mark On Wed, 11 Sep 2024, jason-alpine-info@shalott.net wrote: > [You don't often get email from jason-alpine-info@shalott.net. Learn why this > is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > >> I'd like to take a look at the credentials from my alpine's passfile. >> Some likely-looking openssl foo returned jibberish: >> >> openssl smime -decrypt -inform pem -in -inkey >> .alpine-smime/.pwd/MasterPassword.key >> >> Is there a simple way to examine the contents please, or do I need to >> start looking at the source code? > > The passfile is obfuscated (a throw-back to the days before strong crypto > was available), and there is no standalone utility to de-obfuscate it. > > The source is in alpine/imap.c, in xlate_in() and xlate_out(). > > Once, when I had a similar need, I took those routines and dropped them > more-or-less verbatim into perl, and it worked as expected. YMMV... > > https://pastebin.com/JVVRf2gy > > > -Jason > > > From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sat Sep 21 15:31:29 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Chime Hart via Alpine-info) Date: Sat Sep 21 15:31:57 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] 1000messages-and-Scrolling? Message-ID: Well, I have a backlog of messages in an inbox through Fastmail. Funny as soon as it hits 1000 every 7seconds the final screen from message 886-on will scroll or at least in my screen-reader, it continues announcing this group of messages, which I have sorted by arrival on the fly. Alot of times I sit in an index at the last message waiting for incoming items. Thanks in advance for your analysis. Chime From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sat Sep 21 16:26:02 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Eduardo Chappa via Alpine-info) Date: Sat Sep 21 16:26:12 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] 1000messages-and-Scrolling? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 21 Sep 2024, Chime Hart via Alpine-info wrote: > Well, I have a backlog of messages in an inbox through Fastmail. Funny > as soon as it hits 1000 every 7seconds the final screen from message > 886-on will scroll or at least in my screen-reader, it continues > announcing this group of messages, which I have sorted by arrival on the > fly. Alot of times I sit in an index at the last message waiting for > incoming items. Thanks in advance for your analysis. This sounds like Alpine is redrawing the screen. What happens is that numbers smaller than 1000 require three columns to print, while numbers bigger or equal to 1000 require four spaces. This means that when the number of messages reaches 1000, you will need 4 spaces for all messages, regardless of number, so that they appear aligned in the screen. Internally, Alpine is deleting its cache of index lines and recomputing it. The same will happen when you get to 10000 messages. -- Eduardo From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sat Sep 28 01:05:35 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Riku Virtanen via Alpine-info) Date: Sat Sep 28 01:05:56 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] Localhost failed to create connection Message-ID: <6ca63778-cbbd-90cd-e563-96b353497fc@gmx.com> Hi, I used long time three gmail accounts as storage. Last weekend one of these stopped working with Alpine. Earlier I used 2.25. Now I tested with Alpine 2.26. I tested both Linux and Windows, and two different computers, home and office. The problem stays. Alpine gets a link for Google authentization. I opened the link, typed passwords and a key Google sent to the phone. After that, at the screen there is: Localhost failed to create connection / ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED What could be the issue? I used that Google account with Alpine several years and the account itself works if I test it with Chrome or Edge. But Alpine does not connect to that account. With similar configurations/settings, two other Google accounts work. Riku Virtanen From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sat Sep 28 08:49:13 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Eduardo Chappa via Alpine-info) Date: Sat Sep 28 08:49:22 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] Localhost failed to create connection In-Reply-To: <6ca63778-cbbd-90cd-e563-96b353497fc@gmx.com> References: <6ca63778-cbbd-90cd-e563-96b353497fc@gmx.com> Message-ID: <516134b2-81d8-7696-4c0b-791a823548fe@yandex.com> Are you entering the URL in the top as code? On Sat, 28 Sep 2024, Riku Virtanen via Alpine-info wrote: > Hi, > > I used long time three gmail accounts as storage. > Last weekend one of these stopped working with Alpine. > Earlier I used 2.25. Now I tested with Alpine 2.26. > I tested both Linux and Windows, and two different computers, home and > office. The problem stays. > Alpine gets a link for Google authentization. > I opened the link, typed passwords and a key Google sent to the phone. > After that, at the screen there is: > Localhost failed to create connection / ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED > > What could be the issue? I used that Google account with Alpine several > years and the account itself works if I test it with Chrome or Edge. > But Alpine does not connect to that account. > With similar configurations/settings, two other Google accounts work. > > Riku Virtanen > _______________________________________________ > Alpine-info mailing list > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sat Sep 28 09:24:09 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Riku Virtanen via Alpine-info) Date: Sat Sep 28 09:24:10 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] Localhost failed to create connection In-Reply-To: <516134b2-81d8-7696-4c0b-791a823548fe@yandex.com> References: <6ca63778-cbbd-90cd-e563-96b353497fc@gmx.com> <516134b2-81d8-7696-4c0b-791a823548fe@yandex.com> Message-ID: <6fc51c4-bfd1-667-f4f7-6d4ef5f825a7@sci.fi> With Linux Alpine 2.26, the program asks immediately after opening first time to do authentization process. In the screen, there are two sentences Alpine is attempting to log you into your Gmail account, using the XOAUTH2 method. In order to authorize Alpine to access your email, Alpine needs to open the following URL: After it, there is a link which I opened to a browser in same laptop which Alpine is. Riku On Sat, 28 Sep 2024, Eduardo Chappa via Alpine-info wrote: > Are you entering the URL in the top as code? > > On Sat, 28 Sep 2024, Riku Virtanen via Alpine-info wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I used long time three gmail accounts as storage. >> Last weekend one of these stopped working with Alpine. >> Earlier I used 2.25. Now I tested with Alpine 2.26. >> I tested both Linux and Windows, and two different computers, home and >> office. The problem stays. >> Alpine gets a link for Google authentization. >> I opened the link, typed passwords and a key Google sent to the phone. >> After that, at the screen there is: >> Localhost failed to create connection / ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED >> >> What could be the issue? I used that Google account with Alpine several >> years and the account itself works if I test it with Chrome or Edge. >> But Alpine does not connect to that account. >> With similar configurations/settings, two other Google accounts work. >> >> Riku Virtanen >> _______________________________________________ >> Alpine-info mailing list >> Alpine-info@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info >> > _______________________________________________ > Alpine-info mailing list > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sat Sep 28 11:58:10 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Eduardo Chappa via Alpine-info) Date: Sat Sep 28 11:58:20 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] Localhost failed to create connection In-Reply-To: <6fc51c4-bfd1-667-f4f7-6d4ef5f825a7@sci.fi> References: <6ca63778-cbbd-90cd-e563-96b353497fc@gmx.com> <516134b2-81d8-7696-4c0b-791a823548fe@yandex.com> <6fc51c4-bfd1-667-f4f7-6d4ef5f825a7@sci.fi> Message-ID: <3706522a-8192-35f1-3759-2247c6a1c619@yandex.com> After the link there are directions. Please follow them and let me know if they work. -- Eduardo On Sat, 28 Sep 2024, Riku Virtanen via Alpine-info wrote: > With Linux Alpine 2.26, the program asks immediately after opening first > time to do authentization process. > > In the screen, there are two sentences > Alpine is attempting to log you into your Gmail account, using the XOAUTH2 > method. In order to authorize Alpine to access your email, Alpine needs to > open the following URL: > > After it, there is a link which I opened to a browser in same laptop which > Alpine is. > > Riku > On Sat, 28 Sep 2024, Eduardo Chappa via Alpine-info wrote: > >> Are you entering the URL in the top as code? >> >> On Sat, 28 Sep 2024, Riku Virtanen via Alpine-info wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I used long time three gmail accounts as storage. >>> Last weekend one of these stopped working with Alpine. >>> Earlier I used 2.25. Now I tested with Alpine 2.26. >>> I tested both Linux and Windows, and two different computers, home and >>> office. The problem stays. >>> Alpine gets a link for Google authentization. >>> I opened the link, typed passwords and a key Google sent to the phone. >>> After that, at the screen there is: >>> Localhost failed to create connection / ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED >>> >>> What could be the issue? I used that Google account with Alpine several >>> years and the account itself works if I test it with Chrome or Edge. >>> But Alpine does not connect to that account. >>> With similar configurations/settings, two other Google accounts work. >>> >>> Riku Virtanen >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Alpine-info mailing list >>> Alpine-info@u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Alpine-info mailing list >> Alpine-info@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info >> > _______________________________________________ > Alpine-info mailing list > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sun Sep 29 20:45:17 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info) Date: Sun Sep 29 20:45:19 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] exporting the alpine contact list to a file? Message-ID: Hi all, need to gather several addresses for a work related fund raiser, and provide those addresses to a staffer. is there a way to capture my address book? say export the address book into something with which I can work? Thanks, Karen From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sun Sep 29 20:51:56 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Chime Hart via Alpine-info) Date: Sun Sep 29 20:52:03 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] exporting the alpine contact list to a file? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Karen: Sure I can consider 2 ways. First your contact lists are in a file called dot addressbook, which you can even import in a message to yourself or some1 else. You can also cut-and-paste entries from that file. The .addressbook file would be in your home-directory on Shelllllworld also in any other shell-accounts you have. Chime From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Mon Sep 30 04:55:37 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info) Date: Mon Sep 30 04:55:38 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] exporting the alpine contact list to a file? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Chime, My goal is to avoid cut and paste if at all possible, would rather get the entire file, download it, then use Wordperfect to generate what I require. Toward that end, running the command ls -l with variation's of the dot addressbook name is not yielding a file. Should I do this search in a different way? Thanks again, Karen On Sun, 29 Sep 2024, Chime Hart wrote: > Hi Karen: Sure I can consider 2 ways. First your contact lists are in a file > called dot addressbook, which you can even import in a message to yourself or > some1 else. You can also cut-and-paste entries from that file. The > .addressbook file would be in your home-directory on Shelllllworld also in > any other shell-accounts you have. > Chime > > From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Mon Sep 30 05:05:03 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info) Date: Mon Sep 30 05:05:06 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] exporting the alpine contact list to a file? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ahem, ignore my question. I realized what I was doing wrong here. Thanks Chime! Karen On Mon, 30 Sep 2024, Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info wrote: > Hi Chime, > My goal is to avoid cut and paste if at all possible, would rather get the > entire file, download it, then use Wordperfect to generate what I require. > Toward that end, running the command ls -l with variation's of the dot > addressbook name is not yielding a file. Should I do this search in a > different way? > Thanks again, > Karen > > > > On Sun, 29 Sep 2024, Chime Hart wrote: > >> Hi Karen: Sure I can consider 2 ways. First your contact lists are in a >> file called dot addressbook, which you can even import in a message to >> yourself or some1 else. You can also cut-and-paste entries from that file. >> The .addressbook file would be in your home-directory on Shelllllworld >> also in any other shell-accounts you have. >> Chime >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Alpine-info mailing list > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Mon Sep 30 15:25:58 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info) Date: Mon Sep 30 15:26:00 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] exporting the alpine contact list to a file? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Chime, On second thought, exactly how might I cup and paste an address book into a file? While I did indeed find addressbooks for my shellworld workspaces, because my gmail is setup via imap using alpine, that addressbook is somewhere else entirely. Rather then confuse the person who set up that imap and its shell, it would be best to simply cut and paste the entire thing. steps for this? thanks, Karen On Sun, 29 Sep 2024, Chime Hart wrote: > Hi Karen: Sure I can consider 2 ways. First your contact lists are in a file > called dot addressbook, which you can even import in a message to yourself or > some1 else. You can also cut-and-paste entries from that file. The > .addressbook file would be in your home-directory on Shelllllworld also in > any other shell-accounts you have. > Chime > > From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Mon Sep 30 15:35:30 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Chime Hart via Alpine-info) Date: Mon Sep 30 15:35:35 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] exporting the alpine contact list to a file? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK Karen-and-All, first of all in your other shell-account, try-and-type locate .addressbook Once you find it, you can begin a new e-mail-and-type a controll+r to import fromm file. I have no idea about cut-and-paste in DOS, as I am in Linux with Speakup. Hope that helps Chime From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Mon Sep 30 15:54:31 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info) Date: Mon Sep 30 15:54:32 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] exporting the alpine contact list to a file? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Chime, I should have been more specific. Indeed, I saved a new file of three address books. Actually I opened the file in lynx, chose to save, and made a new one..did not want to risk damaging my address book file. However, I am in alpine itself, not DOS, for gmail too, using ssh to the shell server where alpine is configured for my formally inclusive basic html account. My hope was that in alpine there might be a save to notepad process that lets me block off the amount of text I want and copy it elsewhere. Does this make more sense? Thanks, Karen On Mon, 30 Sep 2024, Chime Hart wrote: > OK Karen-and-All, first of all in your other shell-account, try-and-type > locate .addressbook > Once you find it, you can begin a new e-mail-and-type a controll+r to import > fromm file. I have no idea about cut-and-paste in DOS, as I am in Linux with > Speakup. Hope that helps > Chime > > From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Mon Sep 30 16:02:03 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Chime Hart via Alpine-info) Date: Mon Sep 30 16:02:06 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] exporting the alpine contact list to a file? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0e44d564-f1f4-413b-6c59-3011a2757d02@hubert-humphrey.com> Well Karen, I think once you have that newer copy in LYNX, you can hit an e for an editor such as NANO, where you can block. Even from importing the file in a new mail in Alpine, you can use similar keystrokes to NANO or even PICO Chime From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Mon Sep 30 16:48:45 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info) Date: Mon Sep 30 16:48:47 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] exporting the alpine contact list to a file? In-Reply-To: <0e44d564-f1f4-413b-6c59-3011a2757d02@hubert-humphrey.com> References: <0e44d564-f1f4-413b-6c59-3011a2757d02@hubert-humphrey.com> Message-ID: Goodness, still not being clear. Chime, and all. When sitting in alpine itself, if you wish to write text to a file, what steps can you take? I believe? you can edit our addressbook, so it might be possible? Sorry not to be clear before...I simply used lynx to save the .addressbook file to a new name. However, that will not work for the gmail address book. Karen On Mon, 30 Sep 2024, Chime Hart wrote: > Well Karen, I think once you have that newer copy in LYNX, you can hit an e > for an editor such as NANO, where you can block. Even from importing the file > in a new mail in Alpine, you can use similar keystrokes to NANO or even PICO > Chime > > From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Mon Sep 30 19:28:52 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Milt Epstein via Alpine-info) Date: Mon Sep 30 19:29:10 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] exporting the alpine contact list to a file? In-Reply-To: References: <0e44d564-f1f4-413b-6c59-3011a2757d02@hubert-humphrey.com> Message-ID: <834ec0d0-1b0a-d782-0b0f-7caf81ea549c@illinois.edu> Try something like this: M A ; A A S E You can then specify the format to be exported: A for address list (the default), V for VCard, or T for Tab Separated. And then the file name (and possibly the directory to put the file in). You can then do < to get back to the Main Menu and possibly I to get back to the Message Index. The commands in that sequence are: M Main Menu A Addressbook ; Select A All A Apply S Save E Export I haven't used this at all myself, just came up with that sequence, so not really sure if it'll do just what you want -- but it at least seems close. Milt Epstein mepstein@illinois.edu On Mon, 30 Sep 2024, Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info wrote: > Goodness, still not being clear. > Chime, and all. > When sitting in alpine itself, if you wish to write text to a file, what steps > can you take? > I believe? you can edit our addressbook, so it might be possible? > Sorry not to be clear before...I simply used lynx to save the .addressbook > file to a new name. > However, that will not work for the gmail address book. > Karen > > > > On Mon, 30 Sep 2024, Chime Hart wrote: > > > Well Karen, I think once you have that newer copy in LYNX, you can hit an e > > for an editor such as NANO, where you can block. Even from importing the > > file in a new mail in Alpine, you can use similar keystrokes to NANO or even > > PICO > > Chime > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Alpine-info mailing list > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info__;!!DZ3fjg!98fui_OmT05x6mYmY0X9KgE1ry_onlu8rFI9xp8V7pWFhXXPEix0K-W7RnqT8b-saNZ0OavkZUauxYDGvUtXQ9p1fvS_EoHF$ From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Mon Sep 30 19:34:06 2024 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (ajmcello via Alpine-info) Date: Mon Sep 30 19:34:21 2024 Subject: [Alpine-info] exporting the alpine contact list to a file? In-Reply-To: <834ec0d0-1b0a-d782-0b0f-7caf81ea549c@illinois.edu> References: <0e44d564-f1f4-413b-6c59-3011a2757d02@hubert-humphrey.com> <834ec0d0-1b0a-d782-0b0f-7caf81ea549c@illinois.edu> Message-ID: Unsubscribe On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 4:30?PM Milt Epstein via Alpine-info < alpine-info@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Try something like this: > > M A ; A A S E > > You can then specify the format to be exported: A for address > list (the default), V for VCard, or T for Tab Separated. > > And then the file name (and possibly the directory to put the file in). > > You can then do < to get back to the Main Menu and possibly I to get > back to the Message Index. > > The commands in that sequence are: > > M Main Menu > A Addressbook > ; Select > A All > A Apply > S Save > E Export > > I haven't used this at all myself, just came up with that sequence, so > not really sure if it'll do just what you want -- but it at least > seems close. > > Milt Epstein > mepstein@illinois.edu > > > On Mon, 30 Sep 2024, Karen Lewellen via Alpine-info wrote: > > > Goodness, still not being clear. > > Chime, and all. > > When sitting in alpine itself, if you wish to write text to a file, what > steps > > can you take? > > I believe? you can edit our addressbook, so it might be possible? > > Sorry not to be clear before...I simply used lynx to save the > .addressbook > > file to a new name. > > However, that will not work for the gmail address book. > > Karen > > > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Sep 2024, Chime Hart wrote: > > > > > Well Karen, I think once you have that newer copy in LYNX, you can hit > an e > > > for an editor such as NANO, where you can block. 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