From stacylee at ksu.edu Fri Dec 1 09:15:31 2006 From: stacylee at ksu.edu (Stacy L. Smith) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links Message-ID: <1164993331.45706333d059d@webmail.ksu.edu> This message is for those of you famliar with Jaws - HTML interactions. K-State uses a homegrown learning management system, which has a very robust user interface. A couple of semesters ago they changed the main level navigation to where some links are HTML and some are Javascript. I just found out from a user this morning that he can't see what turns out to be the javascript links. THe design team assumed that Jaws would read the text on the screen and didn't realize that the user may not be navigating that way (and is instead navigating by looking for links). The design and programming crew is VERY interested in accessibility and wants very much to fix this problem. We have a new release coming out in early January, and it's possible we could fix this problem by then. We just need to know how to do that without sacrificing the look and feel of the page for sighted users. Does anyone have any experience or ideas to share? For example, we wondered if there might be a name or value attribute that the reader might pick up, or perhaps some other very clever solution. I'm looking forward to your thoughts. Thanks, Stacy Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba From tft at u.washington.edu Fri Dec 1 15:39:32 2006 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links In-Reply-To: <1164993331.45706333d059d@webmail.ksu.edu> Message-ID: <200612012339.kB1NdYI5032286@smtp.washington.edu> Hi Stacy, Is there a good reason why they can't deliver all links in HTML? Otherwise they'll be excluding *anyone* who's using a browser or device that doesn't support Javascript or that has Javascript disabled. That's a much broader problem than just excluding screen reader users. Terry Terry Thompson Technology Specialist, DO-IT University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 http://www.washington.edu/doit > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:16 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links > > This message is for those of you famliar with Jaws - HTML > interactions. > > K-State uses a homegrown learning management system, which > has a very robust user interface. A couple of semesters ago > they changed the main level navigation to where some links > are HTML and some are Javascript. > I just found out from a user this morning that he can't see > what turns out to be the javascript links. THe design team > assumed that Jaws would read the text on the screen and > didn't realize that the user may not be navigating that way > (and is instead navigating by looking for links). > > The design and programming crew is VERY interested in > accessibility and wants very much to fix this problem. We > have a new release coming out in early January, and it's > possible we could fix this problem by then. > We just need to know how to do that without sacrificing the > look and feel of the page for sighted users. > > Does anyone have any experience or ideas to share? For > example, we wondered if there might be a name or value > attribute that the reader might pick up, or perhaps some > other very clever solution. > > I'm looking forward to your thoughts. > > Thanks, > Stacy > > > Stacy Smith > Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services > 532-6441 > stacylee@ksu.edu > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to > practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are > standing, and that is the place to train. > > --Morehei Ueshiba > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Sat Dec 2 07:10:02 2006 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Technology in the Wrong Hands Message-ID: <004501c71623$f17ac5d0$825ac180@RONMOBILE> A little humor for you A Montana rancher was overseeing his herd in a remote mountainous pasture when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced out of a dust cloud towards him. The driver, a young man in a Brioni suit, Gucci shoes, Ray Ban sunglasses and YSL tie, leans out the window and asks the cowboy, "If I tell you exactly how many cows and calves you have in your herd, will you give me a calf?" The cowboy looks at the man, obviously a yuppie, then looks at his peacefully grazing herd and calmly answers, "Sure, Why not?" The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dell notebook computer, connects it to his Cingular RAZR V3 cell phone, and surfs to a NASA page on the Internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite navigation system to get an exact fix on his location which he then feeds to another NASA satellite that scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo. The young man then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop and exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg, Germany. Within seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilot that the image has been processed and the data stored. He then accesses a MS-SQL database through an ODBC connected Excel spreadsheet with email on his Blackberry and after a few minutes, receives a response. Finally, he prints out a full-color, 150-page report on his hi-tech, miniaturized HP LaserJet printer and finally turns to the cowboy and says, "You have exactly 1,586 cows and calves." "That's right. Well, I guess you can take one of my calves," says the cowboy. He watches the young man select one of the animals and looks on amused as the young man stuffs it into the trunk of his car. Then the cowboy says to the young man, "Hey, if I can tell you exactly what your business is, will you give me back my calf?" The young man thinks about it for a second and then says, "Okay, why not?" You're a Congressman for the U.S. Government", says the cowboy. "Wow! That's correct," says the yuppie, "but how did you guess that?" "No guessing required." answered the cowboy. "You showed up here even though nobody called you; you want to get paid for an answer I already knew, to a question I never asked. You tried to show me how much smarter than me you are; and you don't know a thing about cows...this is a herd of sheep. Now give me back my dog." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Sat Dec 2 07:18:22 2006 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links In-Reply-To: <1164993331.45706333d059d@webmail.ksu.edu> Message-ID: <004f01c71625$1bc84820$825ac180@RONMOBILE> You might also want to test this interface with other screen readers, just testing with JAWS is a recipe for disaster. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:16 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links This message is for those of you famliar with Jaws - HTML interactions. K-State uses a homegrown learning management system, which has a very robust user interface. A couple of semesters ago they changed the main level navigation to where some links are HTML and some are Javascript. I just found out from a user this morning that he can't see what turns out to be the javascript links. THe design team assumed that Jaws would read the text on the screen and didn't realize that the user may not be navigating that way (and is instead navigating by looking for links). The design and programming crew is VERY interested in accessibility and wants very much to fix this problem. We have a new release coming out in early January, and it's possible we could fix this problem by then. We just need to know how to do that without sacrificing the look and feel of the page for sighted users. Does anyone have any experience or ideas to share? For example, we wondered if there might be a name or value attribute that the reader might pick up, or perhaps some other very clever solution. I'm looking forward to your thoughts. Thanks, Stacy Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Glenda at webaccessibility.biz Mon Dec 4 09:11:07 2006 From: Glenda at webaccessibility.biz (Glenda Watson Hyatt) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Announcing a new book Message-ID: Good morning fellow Athen dwellers, I excitedly announced the release of my autobiography I'll Do It Myself in which I intimately share my life story to show others cerebral palsy is not a death sentence, but rather a life sentence. There is a lengthy chapter on my years at university, which may be of interest to folks here. Discover how this "non-verbal" red-head is using AT to podcast! Visit HYPERLINK "http://www.booksbyglenda.com"http://www.booksbyglenda.com for more information and to order your copies. Have a great day! Cheers, Glenda Glenda Watson Hyatt Soaring Eagle Communications HYPERLINK "http://www.booksbyglenda.com"www.booksbyglenda.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/568 - Release Date: 12/4/2006 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at htctu.net Mon Dec 4 12:07:13 2006 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links In-Reply-To: <1164993331.45706333d059d@webmail.ksu.edu> Message-ID: <002301c717df$ca467730$99821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Hi Stacy, I suppose I am a bit unsure of what you are asking. Are the javascript links you are describing part of a drop-down menu structure? In other words, when you hover over the main navigation heading, additional hyperlinks are revealed? Thanks, Sean Sean Keegan Web Accessibility Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:16 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links This message is for those of you famliar with Jaws - HTML interactions. K-State uses a homegrown learning management system, which has a very robust user interface. A couple of semesters ago they changed the main level navigation to where some links are HTML and some are Javascript. I just found out from a user this morning that he can't see what turns out to be the javascript links. THe design team assumed that Jaws would read the text on the screen and didn't realize that the user may not be navigating that way (and is instead navigating by looking for links). The design and programming crew is VERY interested in accessibility and wants very much to fix this problem. We have a new release coming out in early January, and it's possible we could fix this problem by then. We just need to know how to do that without sacrificing the look and feel of the page for sighted users. Does anyone have any experience or ideas to share? For example, we wondered if there might be a name or value attribute that the reader might pick up, or perhaps some other very clever solution. I'm looking forward to your thoughts. Thanks, Stacy Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Mon Dec 4 12:14:13 2006 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Information Technology Access Coordinator/ Position Announcement Message-ID: <000801c717e0$c5370920$835ac180@RONMOBILE> If you have a strong masochistic tendency you may be interested in this position: Oregon State University is currently recruiting for an Information Technology Access Coordinator. We are seeking a diverse, talented pool of candidates for this position and encourage the dissemination of this position announcement to your colleagues. Please see below for more details. Thank you for your assistance. Information Technology Access Coordinator Information Technology Access Coordinator, Services for Students with Disabilities, Oregon State University. Responsibilities: To provide leadership to the OSU community for the implementation of campus technology guidelines. This is a full-time, 12-month fixed-term position with renewal at the discretion of the supervisor. Annual full-time salary range is $45,000 - $53,000/yr. Qualifications: Bachelor's degree, required. Experience: experience working in the area of adaptive and access technology and the development and implementation of training programs. This position provides consultation to the university in regards to technology accessibility for students, staff, and faculty with disabilities. Provide leadership to the OSU community for the implementation of campus technology guidelines. Experience working in the area of adaptive and access technology and the development and implementation of training materials. Grant writing experience preferred. For a full position announcement or to apply see http://oregonstate.edu/jobs Closing Date: 12/31/2006. OSU is an AA/EOE. For any further questions please contact Angela Tibbs, Services for Students with Disabilities, Oregon State University, A202 Kerr Administration Building, Corvallis, OR 97331 Phone: (541)737-8965 Fax: (541) 737-7354 From stacylee at ksu.edu Mon Dec 4 13:06:02 2006 From: stacylee at ksu.edu (Stacy L. Smith) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links In-Reply-To: <002301c717df$ca467730$99821299@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <002301c717df$ca467730$99821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <1165266362.45748dba07f64@webmail.ksu.edu> Sean (and anyone else who has information on this!) When a student opens a course page in our LMS, he or she is presented with main level links that, onMouseOver, open other lists of links. The main level links are recognized by JAWS. The second level links are a mix of some HTML links and some JavaScript links. For example, when I mouse over the main level link, "Content," I get a list that contains the Calendar. When I mouse over the calendar link, the browser tells me that it's sending me to "javascript:openCal();". If the user instead clicks on "Content," a new content page loads, with all of the same sections and same links. The problem is that the links in this new content window are the same javascript links, and they aren't read, either. The developers (while they do very much care about accessibility) evidently thought that since the *text* was present on the page, the reader would "read" that text and the user would recognize it as a link. They didn't realize that the user most likely wouldn't navigate that way. I'm really new to this, and I know next to zilch about javascript, so anything you can tell me to pass along to the designers would be most helpful. THANKS! Stacy Quoting Sean Keegan : > Hi Stacy, > > I suppose I am a bit unsure of what you are asking. Are the > javascript > links you are describing part of a drop-down menu structure? In > other > words, when you hover over the main navigation heading, additional > hyperlinks are revealed? > > Thanks, > Sean > > Sean Keegan > Web Accessibility Instructor > High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On > Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:16 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links > > This message is for those of you famliar with Jaws - HTML > interactions. > > K-State uses a homegrown learning management system, which has a very > robust > user interface. A couple of semesters ago they changed the main > level > navigation to where some links are HTML and some are Javascript. > I just found out from a user this morning that he can't see what > turns out > to be the javascript links. THe design team assumed that Jaws would > read > the text on the screen and didn't realize that the user may not be > navigating that way (and is instead navigating by looking for links). > > The design and programming crew is VERY interested in accessibility > and > wants very much to fix this problem. We have a new release coming > out in > early January, and it's possible we could fix this problem by then. > We just need to know how to do that without sacrificing the look and > feel of > the page for sighted users. > > Does anyone have any experience or ideas to share? For example, we > wondered > if there might be a name or value attribute that the reader might > pick up, > or perhaps some other very clever solution. > > I'm looking forward to your thoughts. > > Thanks, > Stacy > > > Stacy Smith > Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services > 532-6441 > stacylee@ksu.edu > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the > Art of > Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place > to > train. > > --Morehei Ueshiba > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba From cathk at cahs.colostate.edu Mon Dec 4 13:27:57 2006 From: cathk at cahs.colostate.edu (Kilcommons,Cath) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links In-Reply-To: <1165266362.45748dba07f64@webmail.ksu.edu> Message-ID: Hi Stacy, We recommend that our developers make sure all links are coded as standard anchors - an html link- and allow the JS to be the icing on the cake. Most assistive technologies support onfocus and onblur, better than onmouseover and onmouseout. You can see an example of that at http://www.ot.cahs.colostate.edu/, (search the code for the "begin navigation menu" text comment.) You will also find that PDA devices do not support hover (or onmouseover). If it is rewritten it will be more device independent as well as more accessible for people using alternate means of access. Also remember that navigating with the mouse on a menu that creates flyout behaviors can be an issue for people with mobility issues. Using unordered lists and CSS can also help organize the content to be more usable. Best, Cath ++++++ Cath Stager-Kilcommons ACCESS Project Access ?Specialist Assistive Technology Resource Center (ATRC) Colorado State University 970-491-0788 http://accessibility.colostate.edu/ http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/ATRC/ cathk@cahs.colostate.edu From travis at travisroth.com Mon Dec 4 13:32:11 2006 From: travis at travisroth.com (Travis Roth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links In-Reply-To: <1165266362.45748dba07f64@webmail.ksu.edu> Message-ID: <001c01c717eb$a88154b0$0a0aa8c0@latitude> It sounds to me like the menus are not keyboard accessible, possibly only responding to onMouseOver events. An article that discusses dynamic menus: http://www.washington.edu/accessit/articles?204#MainContent -----Original Message----- From: Stacy L. Smith [mailto:stacylee@ksu.edu] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 3:06 PM To: skeegan@htctu.net; Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links Sean (and anyone else who has information on this!) When a student opens a course page in our LMS, he or she is presented with main level links that, onMouseOver, open other lists of links. The main level links are recognized by JAWS. The second level links are a mix of some HTML links and some JavaScript links. For example, when I mouse over the main level link, "Content," I get a list that contains the Calendar. When I mouse over the calendar link, the browser tells me that it's sending me to "javascript:openCal();". If the user instead clicks on "Content," a new content page loads, with all of the same sections and same links. The problem is that the links in this new content window are the same javascript links, and they aren't read, either. The developers (while they do very much care about accessibility) evidently thought that since the *text* was present on the page, the reader would "read" that text and the user would recognize it as a link. They didn't realize that the user most likely wouldn't navigate that way. I'm really new to this, and I know next to zilch about javascript, so anything you can tell me to pass along to the designers would be most helpful. THANKS! Stacy Quoting Sean Keegan : > Hi Stacy, > > I suppose I am a bit unsure of what you are asking. Are the > javascript links you are describing part of a drop-down menu > structure? In other > words, when you hover over the main navigation heading, additional > hyperlinks are revealed? > > Thanks, > Sean > > Sean Keegan > Web Accessibility Instructor > High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On > Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:16 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links > > This message is for those of you famliar with Jaws - HTML > interactions. > > K-State uses a homegrown learning management system, which has a very > robust user interface. A couple of semesters ago they changed the > main level > navigation to where some links are HTML and some are Javascript. > I just found out from a user this morning that he can't see what > turns out > to be the javascript links. THe design team assumed that Jaws would > read > the text on the screen and didn't realize that the user may not be > navigating that way (and is instead navigating by looking for links). > > The design and programming crew is VERY interested in accessibility > and wants very much to fix this problem. We have a new release coming > out in > early January, and it's possible we could fix this problem by then. > We just need to know how to do that without sacrificing the look and > feel of > the page for sighted users. > > Does anyone have any experience or ideas to share? For example, we > wondered if there might be a name or value attribute that the reader > might pick up, > or perhaps some other very clever solution. > > I'm looking forward to your thoughts. > > Thanks, > Stacy > > > Stacy Smith > Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 > stacylee@ksu.edu > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the > Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the > place to > train. > > --Morehei Ueshiba > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From pcress at ku.edu Mon Dec 4 13:58:12 2006 From: pcress at ku.edu (Pamela Cress) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links In-Reply-To: <001c01c717eb$a88154b0$0a0aa8c0@latitude> References: <001c01c717eb$a88154b0$0a0aa8c0@latitude> Message-ID: Another AccessIT resource on this topic is an archived version of a training session on "Making Web-Based Navigation Accessible" by Terry Thompson. You can link to this on the AccessIT home page about halfway down the page. Pam Pamela Cress Research Associate University of Kansas Institute for Life Span Studies Phone: 620-421-6550, ext. 1888 E-mail: pcress@ku.edu On Dec 4, 2006, at 3:32 PM, Travis Roth wrote: > It sounds to me like the menus are not keyboard accessible, > possibly only > responding to onMouseOver events. > An article that discusses dynamic menus: > http://www.washington.edu/accessit/articles?204#MainContent > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stacy L. Smith [mailto:stacylee@ksu.edu] > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 3:06 PM > To: skeegan@htctu.net; Access Technologists in Higher Education > Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links > > > Sean (and anyone else who has information on this!) > > When a student opens a course page in our LMS, he or she is > presented with > main level links that, onMouseOver, open other lists of links. > The main level links are recognized by JAWS. > > The second level links are a mix of some HTML links and some > JavaScript > links. For example, when I mouse over the main level link, > "Content," I get > a list that contains the Calendar. When I mouse over the calendar > link, the > browser tells me that it's sending me to "javascript:openCal();". > > If the user instead clicks on "Content," a new content page loads, > with all > of the same sections and same links. The problem is that the links > in this > new content window are the same javascript links, and they aren't > read, > either. > > The developers (while they do very much care about accessibility) > evidently > thought that since the *text* was present on the page, the reader > would > "read" that text and the user would recognize it as a link. They > didn't > realize that the user most likely wouldn't navigate that way. > > I'm really new to this, and I know next to zilch about javascript, so > anything you can tell me to pass along to the designers would be most > helpful. > > THANKS! > > Stacy > > Quoting Sean Keegan : > >> Hi Stacy, >> >> I suppose I am a bit unsure of what you are asking. Are the >> javascript links you are describing part of a drop-down menu >> structure? In other >> words, when you hover over the main navigation heading, additional >> hyperlinks are revealed? >> >> Thanks, >> Sean >> >> Sean Keegan >> Web Accessibility Instructor >> High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith >> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:16 AM >> To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links >> >> This message is for those of you famliar with Jaws - HTML >> interactions. >> >> K-State uses a homegrown learning management system, which has a very >> robust user interface. A couple of semesters ago they changed the >> main level >> navigation to where some links are HTML and some are Javascript. >> I just found out from a user this morning that he can't see what >> turns out >> to be the javascript links. THe design team assumed that Jaws would >> read >> the text on the screen and didn't realize that the user may not be >> navigating that way (and is instead navigating by looking for links). >> >> The design and programming crew is VERY interested in accessibility >> and wants very much to fix this problem. We have a new release >> coming >> out in >> early January, and it's possible we could fix this problem by then. >> We just need to know how to do that without sacrificing the look and >> feel of >> the page for sighted users. >> >> Does anyone have any experience or ideas to share? For example, we >> wondered if there might be a name or value attribute that the reader >> might pick up, >> or perhaps some other very clever solution. >> >> I'm looking forward to your thoughts. >> >> Thanks, >> Stacy >> >> >> Stacy Smith >> Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 >> stacylee@ksu.edu >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the >> Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the >> place to >> train. >> >> --Morehei Ueshiba >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> > > > Stacy Smith > Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 > stacylee@ksu.edu > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice > the Art of > Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the > place to > train. > > --Morehei Ueshiba > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/ > athen_athenpro.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From skeegan at htctu.net Mon Dec 4 14:11:06 2006 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links Message-ID: <005e01c717f1$18d507c0$99821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Hi Stacy, Okay - if you *must* retain the current look/presentation model, then you may want to try the Ultimate Drop-Down menu (http://www.udm4.com) by Brothercake. It provides an accessible drop-down/flyout menu structure coded using CSS, javascript, and semantic HTML. Another one is YADM (Yet Another Dynamic Menu - http://www.onlinetools.org/tools/yadm/ ). Probably the best options if you *must* retain the look/presentation model of drop-down/flyout menus. At the very least, the sub-menu links should be replicated on the second-tier page. In other words, if the user clicked on "Content", then the page returned should have all the sub-menu items on that "Content" page. Not the best solution, but an option. Ideally, Javascript should be used to enhance the experience - not limit the interaction by the user. Setting up a menu structure using semantic HTML (headings, lists, etc.) and then applying javascript is a better option. Terry T. asked about delivering the links via HTML instead of javascript - is there anyway to customize the interface from the user's perspective to choose between a javascripted and non-javascripted user interface? > The developers (while they do very much care about accessibility) > evidently thought that since the *text* was present on the page, the > reader would "read" that text and the user would recognize it as a > link. They didn't realize that the user most likely wouldn't navigate that way. It depends on how this is done. However, in the method you are describing it does not sound like the method used to implement the menu content is accessible. Without seeing the code, I cannot be more helpful. Things to consider, however: - individuals using magnification software (when zoomed into the page, it can be hard to "see" where the actual menu options are as they may open outside of the field of view). - those using speech recognition software to manipulate the mouse. A problem with drop-down/flyout menus is that if you are using the mouse to hover and the mouse moves off the "hover" area, the user must begin again - very frustrating if you are controlling everything by voice. - those using PDA-style browsers. Many PDAs have problems with Javascript, so navigating that menu structure can be problematic. You may not have anyone checking pages with a PDA right now, but this is going to be an issue down the road. Developing to standards now makes forward compatibility much easier in the long run. - as Ron S. mentioned earlier, can you duplicate this problem with any other assistive technology (e.g, Window-Eyes/Supernova, etc.)? I have found some issues that I assumed were errors by a Web developer only to check other assistive technology and learn that the error was with how JAWS interprets the page. Other assistive technology worked just fine with how the page was coded - just not JAWS. There have been times when perfectly valid HTML code will not be read by JAWS - and the problem was (is) with JAWS, NOT the code (developers find this..."frustrating" ). Take care, Sean -----Original Message----- From: Stacy L. Smith [mailto:stacylee@ksu.edu] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:06 PM To: skeegan@htctu.net; Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links Sean (and anyone else who has information on this!) When a student opens a course page in our LMS, he or she is presented with main level links that, onMouseOver, open other lists of links. The main level links are recognized by JAWS. The second level links are a mix of some HTML links and some JavaScript links. For example, when I mouse over the main level link, "Content," I get a list that contains the Calendar. When I mouse over the calendar link, the browser tells me that it's sending me to "javascript:openCal();". If the user instead clicks on "Content," a new content page loads, with all of the same sections and same links. The problem is that the links in this new content window are the same javascript links, and they aren't read, either. The developers (while they do very much care about accessibility) evidently thought that since the *text* was present on the page, the reader would "read" that text and the user would recognize it as a link. They didn't realize that the user most likely wouldn't navigate that way. I'm really new to this, and I know next to zilch about javascript, so anything you can tell me to pass along to the designers would be most helpful. THANKS! Stacy Quoting Sean Keegan : > Hi Stacy, > > I suppose I am a bit unsure of what you are asking. Are the > javascript links you are describing part of a drop-down menu > structure? In other words, when you hover over the main navigation > heading, additional hyperlinks are revealed? > > Thanks, > Sean > > Sean Keegan > Web Accessibility Instructor > High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On > Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:16 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links > > This message is for those of you famliar with Jaws - HTML > interactions. > > K-State uses a homegrown learning management system, which has a very > robust user interface. A couple of semesters ago they changed the > main level navigation to where some links are HTML and some are > Javascript. > I just found out from a user this morning that he can't see what turns > out to be the javascript links. THe design team assumed that Jaws > would read the text on the screen and didn't realize that the user may > not be navigating that way (and is instead navigating by looking for > links). > > The design and programming crew is VERY interested in accessibility > and wants very much to fix this problem. We have a new release coming > out in early January, and it's possible we could fix this problem by > then. > We just need to know how to do that without sacrificing the look and > feel of the page for sighted users. > > Does anyone have any experience or ideas to share? For example, we > wondered if there might be a name or value attribute that the reader > might pick up, or perhaps some other very clever solution. > > I'm looking forward to your thoughts. > > Thanks, > Stacy > > > Stacy Smith > Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services > 532-6441 > stacylee@ksu.edu > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the > Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the > place to train. > > --Morehei Ueshiba > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba From cathk at cahs.colostate.edu Mon Dec 4 14:27:20 2006 From: cathk at cahs.colostate.edu (Kilcommons,Cath) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links- other flyout behaviors In-Reply-To: <005e01c717f1$18d507c0$99821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: Sean wrote: "Ultimate Drop-Down menu (http://www.udm4.com) by Brothercake. It provides an accessible drop-down/flyout menu structure coded using CSS, javascript, and semantic HTML. Another one is YADM (Yet Another Dynamic Menu - http://www.onlinetools.org/tools/yadm/ ). Probably the best options if you *must* retain the look/presentation model of drop-down/flyout menus. " What do folks think of http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/keyboard_friendly_dropdown_menu/defaul t.asp ? Best, Cath From skeegan at htctu.net Mon Dec 4 15:32:09 2006 From: skeegan at htctu.net (skeegan@htctu.net) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Online AMX Database Training Tuesday, December 5 Message-ID: <1165275129.4574aff948e74@alexander.swishmail.com> List members, We will be having another AMX Database session on Tuesday, December 5. To gain access to the AMX Database, we ask all to participate in an online training of the AMX DB to learn the features and functionality of the system. There is no cost to this training and you will need a high-speed internet connection and telephone to access the audio bridge. Session 1 will be from 10AM to 11:30AM (PST) and Session 2 will be from 1PM to 2:30PM (PST) on December 5, 2006. It is highly recommended to participate in both sessions. To register for the training, please visit: https://deanzaco.securesites.net/trds/login.php If you have an account, simply login to the Training Registration System and register for the "AMX Database Online Sessions". (You will see a hyperlink on the right side of the screen for this training - make sure to then click on the "Register for Training" link) If you do not have an account, please take a moment to create a profile and then you may register for the "AMX Database Online Sessions". (You will see a hyperlink on the right side of the screen for this training - make sure to then click on the "Register for Training" link) Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Web Accessibility Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges --- You are currently subscribed to altmedia as: gdietrich@htctu.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-altmedia-2555C@htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu ----- End forwarded message ----- From stacylee at ksu.edu Mon Dec 4 16:07:00 2006 From: stacylee at ksu.edu (Stacy L. Smith) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Jaws and Javascript Message-ID: <1165277220.4574b8242688f@webmail.ksu.edu> I want to thank everyone who has sent helpful advice on this topic (and if anyone has anything else to add, I'm anxious to hear that as well). I'm new to this field and really appreciate your advice. I've been sending your comments on to the developers, and hopefully we'll have a "fix" before the January update to the LMS. Thanks again! Stacy Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba From tft at u.washington.edu Mon Dec 4 17:03:27 2006 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links- other flyout behaviors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200612050103.kB513S0G001421@smtp.washington.edu> I think the fact that users can not skip submenus is problematic. Users should be able to navigate either between or within menus. Otherwise they potentially have to tab many times just to get to a neighboring top-level menu item. UDM4 is dependent on Javascript, but it comes the closest I've seen to standards-based web menus behaving like menus in a standard GUI application, allowing users to navigate in all directions using arrow keys. TJK Design claims it doesn't require script support, but with scripts disabled in both IE and Firefox, buttons seem to magically and arbitrarily appear and disappear. I don't find this to be usable at all. UDM4 gets my vote. Terry Terry Thompson Technology Specialist, DO-IT University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 http://www.washington.edu/doit > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kilcommons,Cath > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 2:27 PM > To: skeegan@htctu.net; Access Technologists in Higher > Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Jaws and javascript links- other flyout behaviors > > Sean wrote: > "Ultimate Drop-Down menu (http://www.udm4.com) by > Brothercake. It provides an accessible drop-down/flyout menu > structure coded using CSS, javascript, and semantic HTML. > Another one is YADM (Yet Another Dynamic Menu - > http://www.onlinetools.org/tools/yadm/ ). Probably the best > options if you *must* retain the look/presentation model of > drop-down/flyout menus. " > > What do folks think of > http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/keyboard_friendly_dropdown_m > enu/defaul > t.asp ? > > Best, > Cath > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From stacylee at ksu.edu Tue Dec 5 06:57:00 2006 From: stacylee at ksu.edu (Stacy L. Smith) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Information Technology Access Coordinator/ Position Announcement In-Reply-To: <000801c717e0$c5370920$835ac180@RONMOBILE> References: <000801c717e0$c5370920$835ac180@RONMOBILE> Message-ID: <1165330620.457588bcd8cf6@webmail.ksu.edu> Hey! That's a slightly more expanded version of my job! Now, does that mean I'm masochistic...or just didn't know enough about what I was getting into - to know what I was getting into? Ignorance is bliss, they say.... Stacy Quoting Ron Stewart : > If you have a strong masochistic tendency you may be interested in > this > position: > > > Oregon State University is currently recruiting for an Information > Technology Access Coordinator. We are seeking a diverse, talented > pool of > candidates for this position and encourage the dissemination of this > position announcement to your colleagues. Please see below for more > details. > > Thank you for your assistance. > > > Information Technology Access Coordinator > > Information Technology Access Coordinator, Services for Students with > Disabilities, Oregon State University. Responsibilities: To provide > leadership to the OSU community for the implementation of campus > technology > guidelines. This is a full-time, 12-month fixed-term position with > renewal > at the discretion of the supervisor. Annual full-time salary range is > $45,000 - $53,000/yr. Qualifications: Bachelor's degree, required. > Experience: experience working in the area of adaptive and access > technology > and the development and implementation of training programs. This > position > provides consultation to the university in regards to technology > accessibility for students, staff, and faculty with disabilities. > Provide > leadership to the OSU community for the implementation of campus > technology > guidelines. Experience working in the area of adaptive and access > technology > and the development and implementation of training materials. Grant > writing > experience preferred. For a full position announcement or to apply > see > http://oregonstate.edu/jobs Closing Date: 12/31/2006. OSU is an > AA/EOE. > > For any further questions please contact Angela Tibbs, Services for > Students > with Disabilities, Oregon State University, A202 Kerr Administration > Building, Corvallis, OR 97331 Phone: (541)737-8965 Fax: > (541) 737-7354 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba From djbrky at bu.edu Tue Dec 5 07:25:24 2006 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Information Technology Access Coordinator/Position Announcement In-Reply-To: <1165330620.457588bcd8cf6@webmail.ksu.edu> Message-ID: All that money just for that little job! I'll take it and then some! >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith >Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:57 AM >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Information Technology Access Coordinator/Position >Announcement > >Hey! That's a slightly more expanded version of my job! > >Now, does that mean I'm masochistic...or just didn't know enough about >what I was getting into - to know what I was getting into? > >Ignorance is bliss, they say.... > >Stacy > >Quoting Ron Stewart : > >> If you have a strong masochistic tendency you may be interested in >> this >> position: >> >> >> Oregon State University is currently recruiting for an Information >> Technology Access Coordinator. We are seeking a diverse, talented >> pool of >> candidates for this position and encourage the dissemination of this >> position announcement to your colleagues. Please see below for more >> details. >> >> Thank you for your assistance. >> >> >> Information Technology Access Coordinator >> >> Information Technology Access Coordinator, Services for Students with >> Disabilities, Oregon State University. Responsibilities: To provide >> leadership to the OSU community for the implementation of campus >> technology >> guidelines. This is a full-time, 12-month fixed-term position with >> renewal >> at the discretion of the supervisor. Annual full-time salary range is >> $45,000 - $53,000/yr. Qualifications: Bachelor's degree, required. >> Experience: experience working in the area of adaptive and access >> technology >> and the development and implementation of training programs. This >> position >> provides consultation to the university in regards to technology >> accessibility for students, staff, and faculty with disabilities. >> Provide >> leadership to the OSU community for the implementation of campus >> technology >> guidelines. Experience working in the area of adaptive and access >> technology >> and the development and implementation of training materials. Grant >> writing >> experience preferred. For a full position announcement or to apply >> see >> http://oregonstate.edu/jobs Closing Date: 12/31/2006. OSU is an >> AA/EOE. >> >> For any further questions please contact Angela Tibbs, Services for >> Students >> with Disabilities, Oregon State University, A202 Kerr Administration >> Building, Corvallis, OR 97331 Phone: (541)737-8965 Fax: >> (541) 737-7354 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> > > >Stacy Smith >Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services >532-6441 >stacylee@ksu.edu > >~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the >Art of >Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place >to >train. > >--Morehei Ueshiba > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Tue Dec 5 07:55:01 2006 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Information Technology Access Coordinator/Position Announcement In-Reply-To: <1165330620.457588bcd8cf6@webmail.ksu.edu> Message-ID: <002e01c71885$bfb27890$645bc54b@RONMOBILE> And this is what was created out of my former position at OSU. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:57 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Information Technology Access Coordinator/Position Announcement Hey! That's a slightly more expanded version of my job! Now, does that mean I'm masochistic...or just didn't know enough about what I was getting into - to know what I was getting into? Ignorance is bliss, they say.... Stacy Quoting Ron Stewart : > If you have a strong masochistic tendency you may be interested in > this > position: > > > Oregon State University is currently recruiting for an Information > Technology Access Coordinator. We are seeking a diverse, talented pool > of candidates for this position and encourage the dissemination of > this position announcement to your colleagues. Please see below for > more details. > > Thank you for your assistance. > > > Information Technology Access Coordinator > > Information Technology Access Coordinator, Services for Students with > Disabilities, Oregon State University. Responsibilities: To provide > leadership to the OSU community for the implementation of campus > technology guidelines. This is a full-time, 12-month fixed-term > position with renewal at the discretion of the supervisor. Annual > full-time salary range is $45,000 - $53,000/yr. Qualifications: > Bachelor's degree, required. > Experience: experience working in the area of adaptive and access > technology and the development and implementation of training > programs. This position provides consultation to the university in > regards to technology accessibility for students, staff, and faculty > with disabilities. > Provide > leadership to the OSU community for the implementation of campus > technology guidelines. Experience working in the area of adaptive and > access technology and the development and implementation of training > materials. Grant writing experience preferred. For a full position > announcement or to apply see http://oregonstate.edu/jobs Closing Date: > 12/31/2006. OSU is an AA/EOE. > > For any further questions please contact Angela Tibbs, Services for > Students with Disabilities, Oregon State University, A202 Kerr > Administration Building, Corvallis, OR 97331 Phone: (541)737-8965 Fax: > (541) 737-7354 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Tue Dec 5 08:57:45 2006 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Information Technology AccessCoordinator/Position Announcement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003901c7188e$7fd38620$645bc54b@RONMOBILE> This is a reinvention of my former position at OSU, with a substantial cut in pay. Go for it Dann, don't tell me I didn't warn you! : ) Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:25 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Information Technology AccessCoordinator/Position Announcement All that money just for that little job! I'll take it and then some! >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith >Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:57 AM >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Information Technology Access Coordinator/Position >Announcement > >Hey! That's a slightly more expanded version of my job! > >Now, does that mean I'm masochistic...or just didn't know enough about >what I was getting into - to know what I was getting into? > >Ignorance is bliss, they say.... > >Stacy > >Quoting Ron Stewart : > >> If you have a strong masochistic tendency you may be interested in >> this >> position: >> >> >> Oregon State University is currently recruiting for an Information >> Technology Access Coordinator. We are seeking a diverse, talented >> pool of candidates for this position and encourage the dissemination >> of this position announcement to your colleagues. Please see below >> for more details. >> >> Thank you for your assistance. >> >> >> Information Technology Access Coordinator >> >> Information Technology Access Coordinator, Services for Students with >> Disabilities, Oregon State University. Responsibilities: To provide >> leadership to the OSU community for the implementation of campus >> technology guidelines. This is a full-time, 12-month fixed-term >> position with renewal at the discretion of the supervisor. Annual >> full-time salary range is $45,000 - $53,000/yr. Qualifications: >> Bachelor's degree, required. >> Experience: experience working in the area of adaptive and access >> technology and the development and implementation of training >> programs. This position provides consultation to the university in >> regards to technology accessibility for students, staff, and faculty >> with disabilities. >> Provide >> leadership to the OSU community for the implementation of campus >> technology guidelines. Experience working in the area of adaptive and >> access technology and the development and implementation of training >> materials. Grant writing experience preferred. For a full position >> announcement or to apply see http://oregonstate.edu/jobs Closing >> Date: 12/31/2006. OSU is an AA/EOE. >> >> For any further questions please contact Angela Tibbs, Services for >> Students with Disabilities, Oregon State University, A202 Kerr >> Administration Building, Corvallis, OR 97331 Phone: (541)737-8965 >> Fax: >> (541) 737-7354 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> > > >Stacy Smith >Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services >532-6441 >stacylee@ksu.edu > >~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the >Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the >place to train. > >--Morehei Ueshiba > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From stacylee at ksu.edu Tue Dec 5 09:14:18 2006 From: stacylee at ksu.edu (Stacy L. Smith) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Information Technology AccessCoordinator/Position Announcement In-Reply-To: <003901c7188e$7fd38620$645bc54b@RONMOBILE> References: <003901c7188e$7fd38620$645bc54b@RONMOBILE> Message-ID: <1165338858.4575a8ea71b87@webmail.ksu.edu> A *cut* in pay? Boy, am I jealous.... stacy Quoting Ron Stewart : > This is a reinvention of my former position at OSU, with a > substantial cut > in pay. Go for it Dann, don't tell me I didn't warn you! : ) > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On > Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:25 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Information Technology > AccessCoordinator/Position > Announcement > > All that money just for that little job! I'll take it and then some! > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On > >Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith > >Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:57 AM > >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > >Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Information Technology Access > Coordinator/Position > >Announcement > > > >Hey! That's a slightly more expanded version of my job! > > > >Now, does that mean I'm masochistic...or just didn't know enough > about > >what I was getting into - to know what I was getting into? > > > >Ignorance is bliss, they say.... > > > >Stacy > > > >Quoting Ron Stewart : > > > >> If you have a strong masochistic tendency you may be interested in > >> this > >> position: > >> > >> > >> Oregon State University is currently recruiting for an Information > >> Technology Access Coordinator. We are seeking a diverse, talented > >> pool of candidates for this position and encourage the > dissemination > >> of this position announcement to your colleagues. Please see below > >> for more details. > >> > >> Thank you for your assistance. > >> > >> > >> Information Technology Access Coordinator > >> > >> Information Technology Access Coordinator, Services for Students > with > >> Disabilities, Oregon State University. Responsibilities: To > provide > >> leadership to the OSU community for the implementation of campus > >> technology guidelines. This is a full-time, 12-month fixed-term > >> position with renewal at the discretion of the supervisor. Annual > >> full-time salary range is $45,000 - $53,000/yr. Qualifications: > >> Bachelor's degree, required. > >> Experience: experience working in the area of adaptive and access > >> technology and the development and implementation of training > >> programs. This position provides consultation to the university in > >> regards to technology accessibility for students, staff, and > faculty > >> with disabilities. > >> Provide > >> leadership to the OSU community for the implementation of campus > >> technology guidelines. Experience working in the area of adaptive > and > >> access technology and the development and implementation of > training > >> materials. Grant writing experience preferred. For a full > position > >> announcement or to apply see http://oregonstate.edu/jobs Closing > >> Date: 12/31/2006. OSU is an AA/EOE. > >> > >> For any further questions please contact Angela Tibbs, Services > for > >> Students with Disabilities, Oregon State University, A202 Kerr > >> Administration Building, Corvallis, OR 97331 Phone: (541)737-8965 > >> Fax: > >> (541) 737-7354 > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Athen mailing list > >> Athen@athenpro.org > >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > >> > >> > > > > > >Stacy Smith > >Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services > >532-6441 > >stacylee@ksu.edu > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > >One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the > >Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is > the > >place to train. > > > >--Morehei Ueshiba > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Athen mailing list > >Athen@athenpro.org > >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Tue Dec 5 09:56:39 2006 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: InformationTechnology AccessCoordinator/Position Announcement In-Reply-To: <1165338858.4575a8ea71b87@webmail.ksu.edu> Message-ID: <005301c71896$b7d2e040$645bc54b@RONMOBILE> And a major change in duties, authority, and reporting structure to go along with it. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:14 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: InformationTechnology AccessCoordinator/Position Announcement A *cut* in pay? Boy, am I jealous.... stacy Quoting Ron Stewart : > This is a reinvention of my former position at OSU, with a substantial > cut in pay. Go for it Dann, don't tell me I didn't warn you! : ) > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On > Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:25 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Information Technology > AccessCoordinator/Position Announcement > > All that money just for that little job! I'll take it and then some! > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On > >Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith > >Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:57 AM > >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > >Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Information Technology Access > Coordinator/Position > >Announcement > > > >Hey! That's a slightly more expanded version of my job! > > > >Now, does that mean I'm masochistic...or just didn't know enough > about > >what I was getting into - to know what I was getting into? > > > >Ignorance is bliss, they say.... > > > >Stacy > > > >Quoting Ron Stewart : > > > >> If you have a strong masochistic tendency you may be interested in > >> this > >> position: > >> > >> > >> Oregon State University is currently recruiting for an Information > >> Technology Access Coordinator. We are seeking a diverse, talented > >> pool of candidates for this position and encourage the > dissemination > >> of this position announcement to your colleagues. Please see below > >> for more details. > >> > >> Thank you for your assistance. > >> > >> > >> Information Technology Access Coordinator > >> > >> Information Technology Access Coordinator, Services for Students > with > >> Disabilities, Oregon State University. Responsibilities: To > provide > >> leadership to the OSU community for the implementation of campus > >> technology guidelines. This is a full-time, 12-month fixed-term > >> position with renewal at the discretion of the supervisor. Annual > >> full-time salary range is $45,000 - $53,000/yr. Qualifications: > >> Bachelor's degree, required. > >> Experience: experience working in the area of adaptive and access > >> technology and the development and implementation of training > >> programs. This position provides consultation to the university in > >> regards to technology accessibility for students, staff, and > faculty > >> with disabilities. > >> Provide > >> leadership to the OSU community for the implementation of campus > >> technology guidelines. Experience working in the area of adaptive > and > >> access technology and the development and implementation of > training > >> materials. Grant writing experience preferred. For a full > position > >> announcement or to apply see http://oregonstate.edu/jobs Closing > >> Date: 12/31/2006. OSU is an AA/EOE. > >> > >> For any further questions please contact Angela Tibbs, Services > for > >> Students with Disabilities, Oregon State University, A202 Kerr > >> Administration Building, Corvallis, OR 97331 Phone: (541)737-8965 > >> Fax: > >> (541) 737-7354 > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Athen mailing list > >> Athen@athenpro.org > >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > >> > >> > > > > > >Stacy Smith > >Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services > >532-6441 > >stacylee@ksu.edu > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > >One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the > >Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is > the > >place to train. > > > >--Morehei Ueshiba > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Athen mailing list > >Athen@athenpro.org > >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From hascher at asub.edu Tue Dec 5 11:35:00 2006 From: hascher at asub.edu (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 11, Issue 5 Message-ID: Sean, Will there be another training coming up - maybe in Feb? I'd like to participate, but there's no way I could do so before then. THANKS! Heidi Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Counselor/Coordinator of Disability Services Arkansas State University - Beebe 501-882-8263 V/T ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 18:32:09 -0500 From: skeegan@htctu.net Subject: [Athen] Online AMX Database Training Tuesday, December 5 To: athen@athenpro.org Message-ID: <1165275129.4574aff948e74@alexander.swishmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 List members, We will be having another AMX Database session on Tuesday, December 5. To gain access to the AMX Database, we ask all to participate in an online training of the AMX DB to learn the features and functionality of the system. There is no cost to this training and you will need a high-speed internet connection and telephone to access the audio bridge. Session 1 will be from 10AM to 11:30AM (PST) and Session 2 will be from 1PM to 2:30PM (PST) on December 5, 2006. It is highly recommended to participate in both sessions. To register for the training, please visit: https://deanzaco.securesites.net/trds/login.php If you have an account, simply login to the Training Registration System and register for the "AMX Database Online Sessions". (You will see a hyperlink on the right side of the screen for this training - make sure to then click on the "Register for Training" link) If you do not have an account, please take a moment to create a profile and then you may register for the "AMX Database Online Sessions". (You will see a hyperlink on the right side of the screen for this training - make sure to then click on the "Register for Training" link) Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Web Accessibility Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges ----- End forwarded message ----- From skeegan at htctu.net Tue Dec 5 14:22:29 2006 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 11, Issue 5 Message-ID: <000b01c718bb$da5939a0$99821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Hi Heidi, Yes - we will have another training in the late Winter/early spring. I will send out an e-mail when it is going to happen again. Take care, sean -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:35 AM To: 'athen@athenpro.org' Subject: Re: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 11, Issue 5 Sean, Will there be another training coming up - maybe in Feb? I'd like to participate, but there's no way I could do so before then. THANKS! Heidi Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Counselor/Coordinator of Disability Services Arkansas State University - Beebe 501-882-8263 V/T ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 18:32:09 -0500 From: skeegan@htctu.net Subject: [Athen] Online AMX Database Training Tuesday, December 5 To: athen@athenpro.org Message-ID: <1165275129.4574aff948e74@alexander.swishmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 List members, We will be having another AMX Database session on Tuesday, December 5. To gain access to the AMX Database, we ask all to participate in an online training of the AMX DB to learn the features and functionality of the system. There is no cost to this training and you will need a high-speed internet connection and telephone to access the audio bridge. Session 1 will be from 10AM to 11:30AM (PST) and Session 2 will be from 1PM to 2:30PM (PST) on December 5, 2006. It is highly recommended to participate in both sessions. To register for the training, please visit: https://deanzaco.securesites.net/trds/login.php If you have an account, simply login to the Training Registration System and register for the "AMX Database Online Sessions". (You will see a hyperlink on the right side of the screen for this training - make sure to then click on the "Register for Training" link) If you do not have an account, please take a moment to create a profile and then you may register for the "AMX Database Online Sessions". (You will see a hyperlink on the right side of the screen for this training - make sure to then click on the "Register for Training" link) Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Web Accessibility Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges ----- End forwarded message ----- _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Wed Dec 6 09:19:35 2006 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project Message-ID: <001201c7195a$b7d09640$8c84c54b@RONMOBILE> Good afternoon, Some major work has been undertaken by the WinTriangle development team in the last few months and a new version has been released. WinTriangle was taken opensource a while back and in this instance it has paid off. I would like to comment Vivek and the rest of the developers who continue this much needed work. Visit the updated site, and see how you can provide access to math and science materials for your students. Ron Stewart ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart, Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ea at emptech.info Wed Dec 6 10:05:03 2006 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project In-Reply-To: <001201c7195a$b7d09640$8c84c54b@RONMOBILE> Message-ID: <00f001c71961$0e9d4b20$0a01a8c0@laptop> Have you got a link I can pass around our mail lists in UK? many thanks. Best Wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Assistive Technologist Mobile: 07976 289103 HYPERLINK "http://www.emptech.info/"http://www.emptech.info/ _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:20 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'; 'Alternate Media'; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Cc: 'vivek narendra'; 'Robert Eveleigh' Subject: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project Good afternoon, Some major work has been undertaken by the WinTriangle development team in the last few months and a new version has been released. WinTriangle was taken opensource a while back and in this instance it has paid off. I would like to comment Vivek and the rest of the developers who continue this much needed work. Visit the updated site, and see how you can provide access to math and science materials for your students. Ron Stewart ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart, Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 ron@ahead.org HYPERLINK "http://www.ahead.org"http://www.ahead.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 05/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 05/12/2006 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Catherine.L.Jay at nhmccd.edu Mon Dec 4 06:03:43 2006 From: Catherine.L.Jay at nhmccd.edu (Jay, Kitty) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Technology in the Wrong Hands In-Reply-To: <004501c71623$f17ac5d0$825ac180@RONMOBILE> Message-ID: <8968536AA38AE049AC317C6890BA680F04280692@DIS-MAIL.nhmccd.net> Thanks for the good laugh! Kitty Jay, Extended Learning Center Coordinator 832.559.4241 "Look at a man the way that he is, he only becomes worse. But look at him as if he were what he could be, and then he becomes what he should be." Goethe ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:10 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: Technology in the Wrong Hands A little humor for you A Montana rancher was overseeing his herd in a remote mountainous pasture when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced out of a dust cloud towards him. The driver, a young man in a Brioni suit, Gucci shoes, Ray Ban sunglasses and YSL tie, leans out the window and asks the cowboy, "If I tell you exactly how many cows and calves you have in your herd, will you give me a calf?" The cowboy looks at the man, obviously a yuppie, then looks at his peacefully grazing herd and calmly answers, "Sure, Why not?" The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dell notebook computer, connects it to his Cingular RAZR V3 cell phone, and surfs to a NASA page on the Internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite navigation system to get an exact fix on his location which he then feeds to another NASA satellite that scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo. The young man then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop and exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg, Germany. Within seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilot that the image has been processed and the data stored. He then accesses a MS-SQL database through an ODBC connected Excel spreadsheet with email on his Blackberry and after a few minutes, receives a response. Finally, he prints out a full-color, 150-page report on his hi-tech, miniaturized HP LaserJet printer and finally turns to the cowboy and says, "You have exactly 1,586 cows and calves." "That's right. Well, I guess you can take one of my calves," says the cowboy. He watches the young man select one of the animals and looks on amused as the young man stuffs it into the trunk of his car. Then the cowboy says to the young man, "Hey, if I can tell you exactly what your business is, will you give me back my calf?" The young man thinks about it for a second and then says, "Okay, why not?" You're a Congressman for the U.S. Government", says the cowboy. "Wow! That's correct," says the yuppie, "but how did you guess that?" "No guessing required." answered the cowboy. "You showed up here even though nobody called you; you want to get paid for an answer I already knew, to a question I never asked. You tried to show me how much smarter than me you are; and you don't know a thing about cows...this is a herd of sheep. Now give me back my dog." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danc at u.washington.edu Wed Dec 6 10:18:50 2006 From: danc at u.washington.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project In-Reply-To: <00f001c71961$0e9d4b20$0a01a8c0@laptop> References: <00f001c71961$0e9d4b20$0a01a8c0@laptop> Message-ID: www.wintriangle.com is the place to go -*- Dan Comden danc@u.washington.edu Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ University of Washington On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, E.A. Draffan wrote: > Have you got a link I can pass around our mail lists in UK? many thanks. > From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Wed Dec 6 10:55:19 2006 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project In-Reply-To: <00f001c71961$0e9d4b20$0a01a8c0@laptop> Message-ID: <00de01c71968$16574620$8c84c54b@RONMOBILE> Sorry, WinTriangle.org Ron _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of E.A. Draffan Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:05 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project Have you got a link I can pass around our mail lists in UK? many thanks. Best Wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Assistive Technologist Mobile: 07976 289103 http://www.emptech.info/ _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:20 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'; 'Alternate Media'; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Cc: 'vivek narendra'; 'Robert Eveleigh' Subject: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project Good afternoon, Some major work has been undertaken by the WinTriangle development team in the last few months and a new version has been released. WinTriangle was taken opensource a while back and in this instance it has paid off. I would like to comment Vivek and the rest of the developers who continue this much needed work. Visit the updated site, and see how you can provide access to math and science materials for your students. Ron Stewart ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart, Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 05/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 05/12/2006 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ea at emptech.info Wed Dec 6 10:57:24 2006 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000901c71968$5eaa49e0$0a01a8c0@laptop> I need my head testing - why did I think it had changed... Many thanks! Too much trying to make some Flash work for an e-learning project is bad for the grey cells let alone the patience! Best Wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Assistive Technologist Mobile: 07976 289103 http://www.emptech.info/ -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dan Comden Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 6:19 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project www.wintriangle.com is the place to go -*- Dan Comden danc@u.washington.edu Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ University of Washington On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, E.A. Draffan wrote: > Have you got a link I can pass around our mail lists in UK? many thanks. > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 05/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 05/12/2006 From nrcgsh at rit.edu Thu Dec 7 13:06:31 2006 From: nrcgsh at rit.edu (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project In-Reply-To: <001201c7195a$b7d09640$8c84c54b@RONMOBILE> References: <001201c7195a$b7d09640$8c84c54b@RONMOBILE> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20061207130513.02321428@mymail.rit.edu> Ron and ATHEN folk: EASI wants to float an idea by you all. If Ron is willing to make a presentation about these upgrades using our Web conference system, EASI would love to put on this as a free Webinar and make it a joint free public event co-hosted by ATHEN and EASI. Norm At 09:19 AM 12/6/2006, you wrote: >Good afternoon, > >Some major work has been undertaken by the WinTriangle development team in >the last few months and a new version has been released. WinTriangle was >taken opensource a while back and in this instance it has paid off. I >would like to comment Vivek and the rest of the developers who continue >this much needed work. > >Visit the updated site, and see how you can provide access to math and >science materials for your students. > >Ron Stewart > >********************************************************************* >Ron Stewart, Chair >AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group >231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 >Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 >ron@ahead.org >http://www.ahead.org >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------------------ EASI Courses on Accessible Information Technology for November: Barrier-free E-learning (expanded and enriched with more multimedia) http://easi.cc/workshops/bfel.htm EASI has 3 Podcast series: http://easi.cc/podcasts/ EASI Home http://easi.cc Norman Coombs, Ph.D. www.rit.edu/~nrcgsh (949) 855-4852 ** Pacific time zone! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Thu Dec 7 13:21:10 2006 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20061207130513.02321428@mymail.rit.edu> Message-ID: <00b201c71a45$9f442f60$3c31c44b@RONMOBILE> Ron would be willing to, but I would also like to include Vivek the project and perhaps Dan Comden so he can talk about the complimentary work at the UofW. Ron _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:07 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project Ron and ATHEN folk: EASI wants to float an idea by you all. If Ron is willing to make a presentation about these upgrades using our Web conference system, EASI would love to put on this as a free Webinar and make it a joint free public event co-hosted by ATHEN and EASI. Norm At 09:19 AM 12/6/2006, you wrote: Good afternoon, Some major work has been undertaken by the WinTriangle development team in the last few months and a new version has been released. WinTriangle was taken opensource a while back and in this instance it has paid off. I would like to comment Vivek and the rest of the developers who continue this much needed work. Visit the updated site, and see how you can provide access to math and science materials for your students. Ron Stewart ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart, Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------------------ EASI Courses on Accessible Information Technology for November: Barrier-free E-learning (expanded and enriched with more multimedia) http://easi.cc/workshops/bfel.htm EASI has 3 Podcast series: http://easi.cc/podcasts/ EASI Home http://easi.cc Norman Coombs, Ph.D. www.rit.edu/~nrcgsh (949) 855-4852 ** Pacific time zone! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If Ron is willing to make a presentation about these upgrades using our Web conference system, EASI would love to put on this as a free Webinar and make it a joint free public event co-hosted by ATHEN and EASI. Norm At 09:19 AM 12/6/2006, you wrote: Good afternoon, Some major work has been undertaken by the WinTriangle development team in the last few months and a new version has been released. WinTriangle was taken opensource a while back and in this instance it has paid off. I would like to comment Vivek and the rest of the developers who continue this much needed work. Visit the updated site, and see how you can provide access to math and science materials for your students. Ron Stewart ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart, Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------------------ EASI Courses on Accessible Information Technology for November: Barrier-free E-learning (expanded and enriched with more multimedia) http://easi.cc/workshops/bfel.htm EASI has 3 Podcast series: http://easi.cc/podcasts/ EASI Home http://easi.cc Norman Coombs, Ph.D. www.rit.edu/~nrcgsh (949) 855-4852 ** Pacific time zone! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at kckcc.edu Thu Dec 7 13:52:47 2006 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project Message-ID: Sounds good to me. After all, I'm sure Ron would like something to do. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> nrcgsh@rit.edu 12/7/2006 3:06 PM >>> Ron and ATHEN folk: EASI wants to float an idea by you all. If Ron is willing to make a presentation about these upgrades using our Web conference system, EASI would love to put on this as a free Webinar and make it a joint free public event co-hosted by ATHEN and EASI. Norm At 09:19 AM 12/6/2006, you wrote: >Good afternoon, > >Some major work has been undertaken by the WinTriangle development team in >the last few months and a new version has been released. WinTriangle was >taken opensource a while back and in this instance it has paid off. I >would like to comment Vivek and the rest of the developers who continue >this much needed work. > >Visit the updated site, and see how you can provide access to math and >science materials for your students. > >Ron Stewart > >********************************************************************* >Ron Stewart, Chair >AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group >231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 >Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 >ron@ahead.org >http://www.ahead.org >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------------------ EASI Courses on Accessible Information Technology for November: Barrier-free E-learning (expanded and enriched with more multimedia) http://easi.cc/workshops/bfel.htm EASI has 3 Podcast series: http://easi.cc/podcasts/ EASI Home http://easi.cc Norman Coombs, Ph.D. www.rit.edu/~nrcgsh (949) 855-4852 ** Pacific time zone! -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by KCKCC's MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From gdietrich at htctu.net Thu Dec 7 14:30:20 2006 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <005001c71a4f$477b25e0$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Yeah, Robert, I agree, Ron has such a boring, quiet life, and all... ROFL :-) ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 1:53 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project Sounds good to me. After all, I'm sure Ron would like something to do. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> nrcgsh@rit.edu 12/7/2006 3:06 PM >>> Ron and ATHEN folk: EASI wants to float an idea by you all. If Ron is willing to make a presentation about these upgrades using our Web conference system, EASI would love to put on this as a free Webinar and make it a joint free public event co-hosted by ATHEN and EASI. Norm At 09:19 AM 12/6/2006, you wrote: >Good afternoon, > >Some major work has been undertaken by the WinTriangle development team in >the last few months and a new version has been released. WinTriangle was >taken opensource a while back and in this instance it has paid off. I >would like to comment Vivek and the rest of the developers who continue >this much needed work. > >Visit the updated site, and see how you can provide access to math and >science materials for your students. > >Ron Stewart > >********************************************************************* >Ron Stewart, Chair >AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group >231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 >Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 >ron@ahead.org >http://www.ahead.org >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------------------ EASI Courses on Accessible Information Technology for November: Barrier-free E-learning (expanded and enriched with more multimedia) http://easi.cc/workshops/bfel.htm EASI has 3 Podcast series: http://easi.cc/podcasts/ EASI Home http://easi.cc Norman Coombs, Ph.D. www.rit.edu/~nrcgsh (949) 855-4852 ** Pacific time zone! -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by KCKCC's MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Thu Dec 7 14:41:38 2006 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project In-Reply-To: <005001c71a4f$477b25e0$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <002e01c71a50$dce528a0$3c31c44b@RONMOBILE> Now we have a comedy club going, be well peeps. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 5:30 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project Yeah, Robert, I agree, Ron has such a boring, quiet life, and all... ROFL :-) ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 1:53 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project Sounds good to me. After all, I'm sure Ron would like something to do. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> nrcgsh@rit.edu 12/7/2006 3:06 PM >>> Ron and ATHEN folk: EASI wants to float an idea by you all. If Ron is willing to make a presentation about these upgrades using our Web conference system, EASI would love to put on this as a free Webinar and make it a joint free public event co-hosted by ATHEN and EASI. Norm At 09:19 AM 12/6/2006, you wrote: >Good afternoon, > >Some major work has been undertaken by the WinTriangle development team in >the last few months and a new version has been released. WinTriangle was >taken opensource a while back and in this instance it has paid off. I >would like to comment Vivek and the rest of the developers who continue >this much needed work. > >Visit the updated site, and see how you can provide access to math and >science materials for your students. > >Ron Stewart > >********************************************************************* >Ron Stewart, Chair >AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group >231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 >Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 >ron@ahead.org >http://www.ahead.org >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------------------ EASI Courses on Accessible Information Technology for November: Barrier-free E-learning (expanded and enriched with more multimedia) http://easi.cc/workshops/bfel.htm EASI has 3 Podcast series: http://easi.cc/podcasts/ EASI Home http://easi.cc Norman Coombs, Ph.D. www.rit.edu/~nrcgsh (949) 855-4852 ** Pacific time zone! -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by KCKCC's MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu Fri Dec 8 08:11:00 2006 From: gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu (Gerry Nies) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] communication software Message-ID: We are looking for software that can be used by a non verbal college student. The student has hearing but no speech and would like software that can be used on her laptop computer. She wants the communication through the computer so she is like every ofher laptop toting student. Any thoughts? Thanks Gerry Nies Information Technology Tech University of North Dakota Disability Support Services McCannel Hall Room 190 2891 2nd Avenue North Stop 9040 Grand Forks, ND 58202-9040 (701)777-3827 (701)777-4170 FAX gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu STOP! This message is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are NOT the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. 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The student has hearing but no speech and would like software that can be used on her laptop computer. She wants the communication through the computer so she is like every ofher laptop toting student. Any thoughts? Thanks Gerry Nies Information Technology Tech University of North Dakota Disability Support Services McCannel Hall Room 190 2891 2nd Avenue North Stop 9040 Grand Forks, ND 58202-9040 (701)777-3827 (701)777-4170 FAX gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu STOP! This message is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are NOT the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the above mentioned e-mail or telephone number and delete this e-mail from your computer -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by KCKCC's MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From ea at emptech.info Fri Dec 8 09:20:54 2006 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] communication software In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00b001c71aed$37f5b790$15c4fea9@laptop> I am assuming she wants quick access with prediction etc - It may be worth trying a demo of the GRID with adult phrases etc. HYPERLINK "http://www.sensorysoftware.com/software/thegrid2/index.html"http://www.sens orysoftware.com/software/thegrid2/index.html Best Wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Assistive Technologist Mobile: 07976 289103 HYPERLINK "http://www.emptech.info/"http://www.emptech.info/ _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gerry Nies Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:11 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] communication software We are looking for software that can be used by a non verbal college student. The student has hearing but no speech and would like software that can be used on her laptop computer. She wants the communication through the computer so she is like every ofher laptop toting student. Any thoughts? Thanks Gerry Nies Information Technology Tech University of North Dakota Disability Support Services McCannel Hall Room 190 2891 2nd Avenue North Stop 9040 Grand Forks, ND 58202-9040 (701)777-3827 (701)777-4170 FAX HYPERLINK "mailto:gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu"gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu STOP! 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Name: ldeese.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 1172 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nrcgsh at rit.edu Fri Dec 8 11:42:45 2006 From: nrcgsh at rit.edu (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project In-Reply-To: <00b201c71a45$9f442f60$3c31c44b@RONMOBILE> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20061207130513.02321428@mymail.rit.edu> <00b201c71a45$9f442f60$3c31c44b@RONMOBILE> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20061208114155.0235e288@mymail.rit.edu> Hi: Ron and others. I am on the last day of a cruise off the coast of Mexico. I'll get in touch next week and we can start planning a ATHEN/EASI Web conference. Norm At 01:21 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote: >Ron would be willing to, but I would also like to include Vivek the >project and perhaps Dan Comden so he can talk about the complimentary work >at the UofW. > >Ron > > >---------- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs >Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:07 PM >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >Subject: Re: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project > >Ron and ATHEN folk: > >EASI wants to float an idea by you all. > >If Ron is willing to make a presentation about these upgrades using our >Web conference system, EASI would love to put on this as a free Webinar >and make it a joint free public event co-hosted by ATHEN and EASI. > >Norm > >At 09:19 AM 12/6/2006, you wrote: > >>Good afternoon, >> >>Some major work has been undertaken by the WinTriangle development team >>in the last few months and a new version has been released. WinTriangle >>was taken opensource a while back and in this instance it has paid >>off. I would like to comment Vivek and the rest of the developers who >>continue this much needed work. >> >>Visit the updated site, and see how you can provide access to math and >>science materials for your students. >> >>Ron Stewart >> >>********************************************************************* >>Ron Stewart, Chair >>AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group >>231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 >>Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 >>ron@ahead.org >>http://www.ahead.org >>_______________________________________________ >>Athen mailing list >>Athen@athenpro.org >>http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > >------------------------------------------ >EASI Courses on Accessible Information Technology for November: >Barrier-free E-learning (expanded and enriched with more multimedia) >http://easi.cc/workshops/bfel.htm >EASI has 3 Podcast series: http://easi.cc/podcasts/ >EASI Home http://easi.cc > >Norman Coombs, Ph.D. >www.rit.edu/~nrcgsh >(949) 855-4852 ** Pacific time zone! >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------------------ EASI Courses on Accessible Information Technology for November: Barrier-free E-learning (expanded and enriched with more multimedia) http://easi.cc/workshops/bfel.htm EASI has 3 Podcast series: http://easi.cc/podcasts/ EASI Home http://easi.cc Norman Coombs, Ph.D. www.rit.edu/~nrcgsh (949) 855-4852 ** Pacific time zone! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at kckcc.edu Fri Dec 8 12:21:45 2006 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project Message-ID: Oh you dirty dog! You just had to rub it in, didn't you? Here I am in temps below 20 degrees and you're enjoying the sun shine on a cruise. Life just ain't fair! Enjoy the last of the cruise. I hope it's been wonderful. Just think though, next week it's back to the salt pits! Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> nrcgsh@rit.edu 12/8/2006 1:42 PM >>> Hi: Ron and others. I am on the last day of a cruise off the coast of Mexico. I'll get in touch next week and we can start planning a ATHEN/EASI Web conference. Norm At 01:21 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote: >Ron would be willing to, but I would also like to include Vivek the >project and perhaps Dan Comden so he can talk about the complimentary work >at the UofW. > >Ron > > >---------- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs >Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:07 PM >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >Subject: Re: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project > >Ron and ATHEN folk: > >EASI wants to float an idea by you all. > >If Ron is willing to make a presentation about these upgrades using our >Web conference system, EASI would love to put on this as a free Webinar >and make it a joint free public event co-hosted by ATHEN and EASI. > >Norm > >At 09:19 AM 12/6/2006, you wrote: > >>Good afternoon, >> >>Some major work has been undertaken by the WinTriangle development team >>in the last few months and a new version has been released. WinTriangle >>was taken opensource a while back and in this instance it has paid >>off. I would like to comment Vivek and the rest of the developers who >>continue this much needed work. >> >>Visit the updated site, and see how you can provide access to math and >>science materials for your students. >> >>Ron Stewart >> >>********************************************************************* >>Ron Stewart, Chair >>AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group >>231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 >>Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 >>ron@ahead.org >>http://www.ahead.org >>_______________________________________________ >>Athen mailing list >>Athen@athenpro.org >>http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > >------------------------------------------ >EASI Courses on Accessible Information Technology for November: >Barrier-free E-learning (expanded and enriched with more multimedia) >http://easi.cc/workshops/bfel.htm >EASI has 3 Podcast series: http://easi.cc/podcasts/ >EASI Home http://easi.cc > >Norman Coombs, Ph.D. >www.rit.edu/~nrcgsh >(949) 855-4852 ** Pacific time zone! >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------------------ EASI Courses on Accessible Information Technology for November: Barrier-free E-learning (expanded and enriched with more multimedia) http://easi.cc/workshops/bfel.htm EASI has 3 Podcast series: http://easi.cc/podcasts/ EASI Home http://easi.cc Norman Coombs, Ph.D. www.rit.edu/~nrcgsh (949) 855-4852 ** Pacific time zone! -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by KCKCC's MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Fri Dec 8 12:34:44 2006 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000301c71b08$4f00f6a0$b7fed6a6@RONMOBILE> Then he is back to sunny southern California, but he has earned it. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 3:22 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project Oh you dirty dog! You just had to rub it in, didn't you? Here I am in temps below 20 degrees and you're enjoying the sun shine on a cruise. Life just ain't fair! Enjoy the last of the cruise. I hope it's been wonderful. Just think though, next week it's back to the salt pits! Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> nrcgsh@rit.edu 12/8/2006 1:42 PM >>> Hi: Ron and others. I am on the last day of a cruise off the coast of Mexico. I'll get in touch next week and we can start planning a ATHEN/EASI Web conference. Norm At 01:21 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote: >Ron would be willing to, but I would also like to include Vivek the >project and perhaps Dan Comden so he can talk about the complimentary work >at the UofW. > >Ron > > >---------- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs >Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:07 PM >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >Subject: Re: [Athen] Math and Science Access Update - WinTriangle Project > >Ron and ATHEN folk: > >EASI wants to float an idea by you all. > >If Ron is willing to make a presentation about these upgrades using our >Web conference system, EASI would love to put on this as a free Webinar >and make it a joint free public event co-hosted by ATHEN and EASI. > >Norm > >At 09:19 AM 12/6/2006, you wrote: > >>Good afternoon, >> >>Some major work has been undertaken by the WinTriangle development team >>in the last few months and a new version has been released. WinTriangle >>was taken opensource a while back and in this instance it has paid >>off. I would like to comment Vivek and the rest of the developers who >>continue this much needed work. >> >>Visit the updated site, and see how you can provide access to math and >>science materials for your students. >> >>Ron Stewart >> >>********************************************************************* >>Ron Stewart, Chair >>AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group >>231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 >>Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 >>ron@ahead.org >>http://www.ahead.org >>_______________________________________________ >>Athen mailing list >>Athen@athenpro.org >>http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > >------------------------------------------ >EASI Courses on Accessible Information Technology for November: >Barrier-free E-learning (expanded and enriched with more multimedia) >http://easi.cc/workshops/bfel.htm >EASI has 3 Podcast series: http://easi.cc/podcasts/ EASI Home >http://easi.cc > >Norman Coombs, Ph.D. >www.rit.edu/~nrcgsh >(949) 855-4852 ** Pacific time zone! >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------------------ EASI Courses on Accessible Information Technology for November: Barrier-free E-learning (expanded and enriched with more multimedia) http://easi.cc/workshops/bfel.htm EASI has 3 Podcast series: http://easi.cc/podcasts/ EASI Home http://easi.cc Norman Coombs, Ph.D. www.rit.edu/~nrcgsh (949) 855-4852 ** Pacific time zone! -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by KCKCC's MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From djbrky at bu.edu Mon Dec 11 09:49:09 2006 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Possible DAISY sighting outside of education?? Message-ID: One of my E-Text staff is a Communications major and is leaving me for the Spring semester to intern in Los Angeles. While looking for a position she saw this internship for the E! network [see link below]. The position is for a Development Writer Intern and the responsibilities include: + Help prepare and update call sheets and staff lists + Learn how to log and transcribe shows + Learn how to use Daisy https://www.companyrecruiter.com/assistant/Apply/Files/300099/Career/Job Detail.asp?SerialNum=300099&DSN=100012&PostingId=2476&SiteFlag=C ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability -----Original Message----- From: laurenph@bu.edu [mailto:laurenph@bu.edu] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 12:32 PM To: Berkowitz, Daniel J Subject: Possible Daisy? Here's the link... --Lauren From nrcgsh at rit.edu Tue Dec 12 09:37:21 2006 From: nrcgsh at rit.edu (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: Web Conference on science and Math Access Tomorrow at 2 Eastern Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20061212093709.02305740@mymail.rit.edu> >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:15:20 -0800 >From: Prof Norm Coombs >Subject: Web Conference on science and Math Access Tomorrow at 2 Eastern >To: nrcgsh@rit.edu >X-VMS-To: IN%"nrcgsh@rit.edu" >X-RIT-Received-From: 129.21.2.226 >X-RITmySpam-IP: 129.21.3.39 >X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2006 16:16:12.0496 (UTC) >FILETIME=[D75A9D00:01C71E08] > >You are receiving this email because of your previous interest in EASI's Web >conferences. If you want removed from my email list, please let me know. >Norm Coombs > > >There are 2 announcements below. Please read BOTH!! > >Free Web Conference Dec. 14 2 PM Eastern: >University of Wis. Report on NSF grant On >Science Accessibility >Presenter: Alice Anderson > >Alice Anderson is Co-PI and Director of MIDWEST Alliance for Science, >Technology, >Engineering and Math < >www.stemmidwest.org> >AND Technology Accessibility Program (TAP), Division of Information >Technology >(DoIT) < >http://www.doit.wisc.edu/accessibility/> >at the University of Wisconsin-Madison > >The MIDWEST Alliance is in the second year of a five-year NSF funded grant >that >focuses on increasing the success of students with disabilities entering >and completing post-secondary education in Science, Technology, >Engineering and >Mathematics (STEM) fields. This goal will be accomplished by consolidating >considerable institutional, programmatic and personnel resources. >Discover how the grant got off the ground (building an infrastructure), >the focus >and activities of year two, and the challenges >and triumphs to date. > >The MIDWEST alliance is a consortium of educators, scientists and student >disability >service providers from the University of Wisconsin-Madison (UW-Madison), >the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) and the University >of Northern >Iowa (UNI). MIDWEST is uniquely positioned to facilitate student >success across a broad range of education levels in STEM by >connecting institutions, faculty and staff who have substantial individual >resources >and expertise in disability access education. > >The MIDWEST senior personnel are working together to transition secondary >school >students with disabilities in STEM, educate post-secondary students with >disabilities in STEM, and support undergraduate students' entry into graduate >programs and industry. By modifying STEM instruction and support services >for students, transforming training environments and increasing >the accessibility of classrooms and labs, MIDWEST will significantly alter >STEM >activities in Wisconsin, Illinois and Iowa. > >Register for the free Dec. 14 Web conference >http://easi.cc/forms/midwest.htm > > >We are testing an updated and slightly different Web conference >system. We can >test it better if some real people drop in to talk for a few minutes. If you >can drop by and say hello on either of the times below, please do so! >Come and talk either with text chat or with voice using a mic. > > >Friday 15 at 2 PM Eastern >Monday Dec. 18 at 2 PM Eastern > >Meet us at >http://easi.cc/entrance.htm > >Thank you. > >Norm ------------------------------------------ EASI Courses on Accessible Information Technology for November: Barrier-free E-learning (expanded and enriched with more multimedia) http://easi.cc/workshops/bfel.htm EASI has 3 Podcast series: http://easi.cc/podcasts/ EASI Home http://easi.cc Norman Coombs, Ph.D. www.rit.edu/~nrcgsh (949) 855-4852 ** Pacific time zone! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djbrky at bu.edu Wed Dec 13 07:00:36 2006 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Braille in the Beer Hall? Prost to That! - AFB's Blog Message-ID: http://www.afb.org/blog/blog_comments.asp?TopicID=2363 German beermaker, Uerige , is releasing a line of 0.33 liter bottles with braille labels. Uerige is known to be one of the world's best "Alt" beer makers and it's encouraging to hear that such a successful company makes efforts to ensure that its products are accessible to all of its customers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stacylee at ksu.edu Wed Dec 13 07:26:03 2006 From: stacylee at ksu.edu (Stacy L. Smith) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training Message-ID: <1166023563.45801b8b20b72@webmail.ksu.edu> Does anyone know if it's possible to *create* a training script for Dragon? I'm transcribing a recorded lecture from an instructor, and thought I'd give Dragon a whirl -- even if I only get 50% recognition, I'm ahead of starting from scratch. The problem is that I doubt I can get the instructor to leave her grading long enough to create a profile. I'd like to use a transcript we've already created to train the program. Is this even *remotely* possible? Thanks, Stacy Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed Dec 13 07:37:50 2006 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training Message-ID: >Is this even *remotely* possible? That would be pretty much a no. Dragon uses its own scripts, that's how it works at identifying how a person pronounces certain things. The instructor would have to train it him/herself. Susan Kelmer Coordinator Information ACCESS Lab St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 From djbrky at bu.edu Wed Dec 13 07:47:27 2006 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training In-Reply-To: <1166023563.45801b8b20b72@webmail.ksu.edu> Message-ID: I can tell you that Naturally Speaking v. 9 has an extremely fast set up. I loaded it on my laptop recently and was done with the basic install and recognition training in less than an hour. ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith >Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:26 AM >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training > >Does anyone know if it's possible to *create* a training script for >Dragon? > >I'm transcribing a recorded lecture from an instructor, and thought I'd >give Dragon a whirl -- even if I only get 50% recognition, I'm ahead of >starting from scratch. The problem is that I doubt I can get the >instructor to leave her grading long enough to create a profile. I'd >like to use a transcript we've already created to train the program. > >Is this even *remotely* possible? > >Thanks, >Stacy > >Stacy Smith >Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services >532-6441 >stacylee@ksu.edu > >~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the >Art of >Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place >to >train. > >--Morehei Ueshiba > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From PeplowM at missouri.edu Wed Dec 13 07:53:10 2006 From: PeplowM at missouri.edu (Peplow, Michael O.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <93FF41EA7C3CB24BB7234B82F43530C3BE4687@UM-XMAIL06.um.umsystem.edu> What about in version 9 with the no training option? If the instructor is a male or female could you just have another person with possibly a similar pitch to their voice to the sound and quality check? Mike Peplow Assistive Technology Practitioner Adaptive Computing Technology Center University of Missouri-Columbia N215 Memorial Union 573 882-5657 1-866 396-2380 peplowm@Missouri.edu http://IATservices.Missouri.edu/adaptive -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:38 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training >Is this even *remotely* possible? That would be pretty much a no. Dragon uses its own scripts, that's how it works at identifying how a person pronounces certain things. The instructor would have to train it him/herself. Susan Kelmer Coordinator Information ACCESS Lab St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu Wed Dec 13 07:58:46 2006 From: Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu (Baker, Nick) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training In-Reply-To: <1166023563.45801b8b20b72@webmail.ksu.edu> Message-ID: Nuance (formerly ScanSoft), Dragon's vendor claims that the latest version of DNS--version 9--requires no training. Note that I say, "claims." I have not used v. 9 yet myself. Nick Nick Baker Assistive Technology Coordinator nick.baker@umontana.edu 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) 406-243-2663 (Voice only) Disability Services for Students The University of Montana EL 154 32 Campus Drive Missoula, MT 59812 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:26 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training Does anyone know if it's possible to *create* a training script for Dragon? I'm transcribing a recorded lecture from an instructor, and thought I'd give Dragon a whirl -- even if I only get 50% recognition, I'm ahead of starting from scratch. The problem is that I doubt I can get the instructor to leave her grading long enough to create a profile. I'd like to use a transcript we've already created to train the program. Is this even *remotely* possible? Thanks, Stacy Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu Wed Dec 13 08:06:53 2006 From: Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu (Nusen, Michael) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training Message-ID: <0B6DCE7FD0CAC8499F3F32584186A32504C38012@ppcca1.ppcc.ccofc.edu> We had a recognition problem even with an instructor's training file because the student's digital recorder wasn't one recommended by Nuance. Another digital recording issue was improved when the instructor agreed to wear a clip-on microphone and carry the recorder in their shirt pocket. The non-technology question, of course, is why the student needs a verbatim transcript anyway. The preference, of course, is to use peer notes, when appropriate, via NCR paper supplemented with the instructor's materials/lecture notes and the recording. The caveat, of course, re peer notes is that they may not be appropriate in certain circumstances in developmental courses. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:47 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training I can tell you that Naturally Speaking v. 9 has an extremely fast set up. I loaded it on my laptop recently and was done with the basic install and recognition training in less than an hour. ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith >Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:26 AM >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training > >Does anyone know if it's possible to *create* a training script for >Dragon? > >I'm transcribing a recorded lecture from an instructor, and thought I'd >give Dragon a whirl -- even if I only get 50% recognition, I'm ahead of >starting from scratch. The problem is that I doubt I can get the >instructor to leave her grading long enough to create a profile. I'd >like to use a transcript we've already created to train the program. > >Is this even *remotely* possible? > >Thanks, >Stacy > >Stacy Smith >Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services >532-6441 >stacylee@ksu.edu > >~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the >Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the >place to train. > >--Morehei Ueshiba > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu Wed Dec 13 08:12:01 2006 From: Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu (Baker, Nick) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Braille in the Beer Hall? Prost to That! - AFB's Blog In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gives new significance to the term, "Blind Drunk." Nick Baker Assistive Technology Coordinator nick.baker@umontana.edu 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) 406-243-2663 (Voice only) Disability Services for Students The University of Montana EL 154 32 Campus Drive Missoula, MT 59812 ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:01 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Braille in the Beer Hall? Prost to That! - AFB's Blog http://www.afb.org/blog/blog_comments.asp?TopicID=2363 German beermaker, Uerige , is releasing a line of 0.33 liter bottles with braille labels. Uerige is known to be one of the world's best "Alt" beer makers and it's encouraging to hear that such a successful company makes efforts to ensure that its products are accessible to all of its customers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu Wed Dec 13 08:23:10 2006 From: Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu (Nusen, Michael) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Braille in the Beer Hall? Prost to That! - AFB's Blog Message-ID: <0B6DCE7FD0CAC8499F3F32584186A32504C38014@ppcca1.ppcc.ccofc.edu> >From a report today on NPR: The Bush administration asked an appeals court to overturn a judge's ruling that U.S. paper $1-$100 bills must be changed to accommodate the visually impaired. They are arguing that it would take too much money to change the money & that there are already alternatives: money readers, plastic, etc. ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Baker, Nick Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:12 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Braille in the Beer Hall? Prost to That! - AFB's Blog Gives new significance to the term, "Blind Drunk." Nick Baker Assistive Technology Coordinator nick.baker@umontana.edu 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) 406-243-2663 (Voice only) Disability Services for Students The University of Montana EL 154 32 Campus Drive Missoula, MT 59812 ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:01 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Braille in the Beer Hall? Prost to That! - AFB's Blog http://www.afb.org/blog/blog_comments.asp?TopicID=2363 German beermaker, Uerige , is releasing a line of 0.33 liter bottles with braille labels. Uerige is known to be one of the world's best "Alt" beer makers and it's encouraging to hear that such a successful company makes efforts to ensure that its products are accessible to all of its customers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pwhite3 at exchange.calstatela.edu Wed Dec 13 09:23:57 2006 From: pwhite3 at exchange.calstatela.edu (White, Phillip B.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training In-Reply-To: <1166023563.45801b8b20b72@webmail.ksu.edu> Message-ID: <249223C7F58DC140A96F27C89DBAF12F01A90606@santafe7.academic.ad.calstatela.edu> Consider using one of the transcribers working with the deaf students in your classes. They could type the whole thing pretty quickly. Phillip White Adaptive Technology Coordinator Cal State University los Angeels -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:26 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training Does anyone know if it's possible to *create* a training script for Dragon? I'm transcribing a recorded lecture from an instructor, and thought I'd give Dragon a whirl -- even if I only get 50% recognition, I'm ahead of starting from scratch. The problem is that I doubt I can get the instructor to leave her grading long enough to create a profile. I'd like to use a transcript we've already created to train the program. Is this even *remotely* possible? Thanks, Stacy Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From dmurphy at collegeofthedesert.edu Wed Dec 13 09:36:42 2006 From: dmurphy at collegeofthedesert.edu (Daryl Murphy) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training References: Message-ID: We have our new students setup in less than 10 min. with the new version 9. They bypass the training and get well over 90-95% accuracy. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:47 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training I can tell you that Naturally Speaking v. 9 has an extremely fast set up. I loaded it on my laptop recently and was done with the basic install and recognition training in less than an hour. ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith >Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:26 AM >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training > >Does anyone know if it's possible to *create* a training script for >Dragon? > >I'm transcribing a recorded lecture from an instructor, and thought I'd >give Dragon a whirl -- even if I only get 50% recognition, I'm ahead of >starting from scratch. The problem is that I doubt I can get the >instructor to leave her grading long enough to create a profile. I'd >like to use a transcript we've already created to train the program. > >Is this even *remotely* possible? > >Thanks, >Stacy > >Stacy Smith >Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services >532-6441 >stacylee@ksu.edu > >~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the >Art of >Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place >to >train. > >--Morehei Ueshiba > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From gdietrich at htctu.net Wed Dec 13 09:51:24 2006 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Braille in the Beer Hall? Prost to That! - AFB's Blog In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003801c71edf$4edf3620$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> ROFLMAO Excuse my French, but that line was too funny!!! Happy holidays, folks! ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Baker, Nick Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:12 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Braille in the Beer Hall? Prost to That! - AFB's Blog Gives new significance to the term, "Blind Drunk." Nick Baker Assistive Technology Coordinator nick.baker@umontana.edu 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) 406-243-2663 (Voice only) Disability Services for Students The University of Montana EL 154 32 Campus Drive Missoula, MT 59812 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:01 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Braille in the Beer Hall? Prost to That! - AFB's Blog http://www.afb.org/blog/blog_comments.asp?TopicID=2363 German beermaker, Uerige, is releasing a line of 0.33 liter bottles with braille labels. Uerige is known to be one of the world's best "Alt" beer makers and it's encouraging to hear that such a successful company makes efforts to ensure that its products are accessible to all of its customers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at htctu.net Wed Dec 13 09:54:06 2006 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: New AT Consultant Position at CSU East Bay Message-ID: <003e01c71edf$af431d60$99821299@htctu.fhda.edu> A new job posting at Cal State University, East Bay (formerly CSU, Hayward). I am not affiliated with CSU, East Bay - just passing this along. See below for more information. Sean ***** Please visit the link below and forward to those who are looking for a great opportunity. https://abaweb.csueastbay.edu/hr/hrapps/empOppDesc.cfm?recnumb=002140 **** From edward at ngtvoice.com Wed Dec 13 16:44:17 2006 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training In-Reply-To: <249223C7F58DC140A96F27C89DBAF12F01A90606@santafe7.academic.ad.calstatela.edu> Message-ID: <002d01c71f19$00f52de0$0859183f@eros> Yes, you need to use a .bin file format and place it in the same locationas the other DNS .bin files. They must contain only words already in the DNS vocabulary. But with DNS 9 you can skip the training with good success. -ed. Yours Sincerely, Edward S. Rosenthal, ATACP Graduate President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies, Inc. 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, Wa. 98036. EM: edward@ngtvoice.com WWW: www.ngtvoice.com PH: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 FX: 425-778-5547 This document was generated using handwriting input on a Motion LE 1600 Tablet and/or Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional Solutions 8.1 speech recognition technology (please disregard any odd formatting or remaining misrecognitions). -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of White, Phillip B. Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:24 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training Consider using one of the transcribers working with the deaf students in your classes. They could type the whole thing pretty quickly. Phillip White Adaptive Technology Coordinator Cal State University los Angeels -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:26 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training Does anyone know if it's possible to *create* a training script for Dragon? I'm transcribing a recorded lecture from an instructor, and thought I'd give Dragon a whirl -- even if I only get 50% recognition, I'm ahead of starting from scratch. The problem is that I doubt I can get the instructor to leave her grading long enough to create a profile. I'd like to use a transcript we've already created to train the program. Is this even *remotely* possible? Thanks, Stacy Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From stacylee at ksu.edu Wed Dec 13 17:38:45 2006 From: stacylee at ksu.edu (Stacy L. Smith) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training In-Reply-To: <002d01c71f19$00f52de0$0859183f@eros> References: <002d01c71f19$00f52de0$0859183f@eros> Message-ID: <1166060325.4580ab25a22ad@webmail.ksu.edu> It doesn't want to let me set up a recorded user without training....is there something I'm missing? Thanks for the help - Stacy Quoting "Ed. Rosenthal" : > Yes, you need to use a .bin file format and place it in the same > locationas > the other DNS .bin files. They must contain only words already in the > DNS > vocabulary. > > But with DNS 9 you can skip the training with good success. -ed. > > Yours Sincerely, Edward S. Rosenthal, ATACP Graduate > President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies, Inc. > 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, Wa. 98036. > EM: edward@ngtvoice.com WWW: www.ngtvoice.com > PH: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 FX: 425-778-5547 > > This document was generated using handwriting input on a Motion LE > 1600 > Tablet and/or Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional Solutions 8.1 > speech > recognition technology (please disregard any odd formatting or > remaining > misrecognitions). > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On > Behalf Of White, Phillip B. > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:24 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training > > Consider using one of the transcribers working with the deaf students > in > your classes. They could type the whole thing pretty quickly. > > Phillip White > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Cal State University los Angeels > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On > Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:26 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training > > Does anyone know if it's possible to *create* a training script for > Dragon? > > I'm transcribing a recorded lecture from an instructor, and thought > I'd give > Dragon a whirl -- even if I only get 50% recognition, I'm ahead of > starting > from scratch. The problem is that I doubt I can get the instructor > to leave > her grading long enough to create a profile. I'd like to use a > transcript > we've already created to train the program. > > Is this even *remotely* possible? > > Thanks, > Stacy > > Stacy Smith > Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services > 532-6441 > stacylee@ksu.edu > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the > Art of > Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place > to > train. > > --Morehei Ueshiba > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Wed Dec 13 19:41:19 2006 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training In-Reply-To: <1166060325.4580ab25a22ad@webmail.ksu.edu> Message-ID: <45791D9500000DBF@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> HI Stacy, It's probably asking you to set the noise level from the environment, set the input level on the mike and set the recording quality level. It's not training as such. Really amounts to a standard "mike check" you would do on the stage before a performance (tick tick tick, "one-two-three-four...is this thing ON???" sort of test. You should then get a screen with an option to skip the introduction and other training. Another really good thing to check on the tools menu is to look for the "import vocabulary" --the program can mine your (the professor's) document & email files for vocabulary & writing style and import directly to DNS. Gives much faster, much more accurate recognition up front. Does this answer your questions? Let me know --I'm quite proficient on Dragon! Blessings in abundance, Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa, AZ >-- Original Message -- >Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:38:45 -0600 >From: "Stacy L. Smith" >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training >Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > >It doesn't want to let me set up a recorded user without training....is >there something I'm missing? > >Thanks for the help - > >Stacy > >Quoting "Ed. Rosenthal" : > >> Yes, you need to use a .bin file format and place it in the same >> locationas >> the other DNS .bin files. They must contain only words already in the >> DNS >> vocabulary. >> >> But with DNS 9 you can skip the training with good success. -ed. >> >> Yours Sincerely, Edward S. Rosenthal, ATACP Graduate >> President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies, Inc. >> 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, Wa. 98036. >> EM: edward@ngtvoice.com WWW: www.ngtvoice.com >> PH: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 FX: 425-778-5547 >> >> This document was generated using handwriting input on a Motion LE >> 1600 >> Tablet and/or Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional Solutions 8.1 >> speech >> recognition technology (please disregard any odd formatting or >> remaining >> misrecognitions). >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] >> On >> Behalf Of White, Phillip B. >> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:24 AM >> To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training >> >> Consider using one of the transcribers working with the deaf students >> in >> your classes. They could type the whole thing pretty quickly. >> >> Phillip White >> Adaptive Technology Coordinator >> Cal State University los Angeels >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith >> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:26 AM >> To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training >> >> Does anyone know if it's possible to *create* a training script for >> Dragon? >> >> I'm transcribing a recorded lecture from an instructor, and thought >> I'd give >> Dragon a whirl -- even if I only get 50% recognition, I'm ahead of >> starting >> from scratch. The problem is that I doubt I can get the instructor >> to leave >> her grading long enough to create a profile. I'd like to use a >> transcript >> we've already created to train the program. >> >> Is this even *remotely* possible? >> >> Thanks, >> Stacy >> >> Stacy Smith >> Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services >> 532-6441 >> stacylee@ksu.edu >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the >> Art of >> Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place >> to >> train. >> >> --Morehei Ueshiba >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> > > >Stacy Smith >Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services >532-6441 >stacylee@ksu.edu > >~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the >Art of >Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place >to >train. > >--Morehei Ueshiba > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From edward at ngtvoice.com Thu Dec 14 06:21:25 2006 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training In-Reply-To: <1166060325.4580ab25a22ad@webmail.ksu.edu> Message-ID: <00a601c71f8b$2a74c780$934c183f@eros> Stacy-you are right, the recorder profile requires training. However you can use a regular .wav profile (i.e. microphone) and then have the recorder software convert to.wav on download which will eliminate the need for training. -ed. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 5:39 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training It doesn't want to let me set up a recorded user without training....is there something I'm missing? Thanks for the help - Stacy Quoting "Ed. Rosenthal" : > Yes, you need to use a .bin file format and place it in the same > locationas the other DNS .bin files. They must contain only words > already in the DNS vocabulary. > > But with DNS 9 you can skip the training with good success. -ed. > > Yours Sincerely, Edward S. Rosenthal, ATACP Graduate President and > CEO, Next Generation Technologies, Inc. > 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, Wa. 98036. > EM: edward@ngtvoice.com WWW: www.ngtvoice.com > PH: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 FX: 425-778-5547 > > This document was generated using handwriting input on a Motion LE > 1600 Tablet and/or Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional Solutions 8.1 > speech recognition technology (please disregard any odd formatting or > remaining misrecognitions). > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On > Behalf Of White, Phillip B. > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:24 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training > > Consider using one of the transcribers working with the deaf students > in your classes. They could type the whole thing pretty quickly. > > Phillip White > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Cal State University los Angeels > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On > Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:26 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training > > Does anyone know if it's possible to *create* a training script for > Dragon? > > I'm transcribing a recorded lecture from an instructor, and thought > I'd give Dragon a whirl -- even if I only get 50% recognition, I'm > ahead of starting from scratch. The problem is that I doubt I can get > the instructor to leave her grading long enough to create a profile. > I'd like to use a transcript we've already created to train the > program. > > Is this even *remotely* possible? > > Thanks, > Stacy > > Stacy Smith > Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services > 532-6441 > stacylee@ksu.edu > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the > Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the > place to train. > > --Morehei Ueshiba > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From SandraS at usca.edu Thu Dec 14 13:24:09 2006 From: SandraS at usca.edu (Sandra Sanders) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request Message-ID: <04EACB4CCDE78242B9449AB0328B0E1104D9084F@MAIL.usca.edu> In completing my first online request for an alternate text format from Pearson, I was shocked to see they require the student's name, address and email on the Request Form - Students with Disabilities. We're not about to disclose this information! How do you get around this? Sandra Sandra E. Sanders Assistive Technology Center Supervisor Counseling Center & Office of Disability Services University of South Carolina Aiken 471 University Parkway, Box 15 Aiken, SC 29801 Tel 803-641-3609, Fax 803-641-3677 Web: www.usca.edu/cc Email: sandras@usca.edu USCA - We're focused on you! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhayman at u.washington.edu Thu Dec 14 13:30:01 2006 From: dhayman at u.washington.edu (Doug Hayman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request In-Reply-To: <04EACB4CCDE78242B9449AB0328B0E1104D9084F@MAIL.usca.edu> References: <04EACB4CCDE78242B9449AB0328B0E1104D9084F@MAIL.usca.edu> Message-ID: How about: Jane Smith 123 Maple Ave, Aiken, SC 29801 or some other bogus name? I've used all sorts of variations for Real Player registration. It is fun to come up with new names and email addresses for them...just to then be allowed custom setup of Real Player. Doug Hayman Technology Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) Box 355670 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Sandra Sanders wrote: > In completing my first online request for an alternate text format from > Pearson, I was shocked to see they require the student's name, address > and email on the Request Form - Students with Disabilities. We're not > about to disclose this information! How do you get around this? > > > > Sandra > > Sandra E. Sanders > > Assistive Technology Center Supervisor > > Counseling Center & Office of Disability Services > > University of South Carolina Aiken > > 471 University Parkway, Box 15 > > Aiken, SC 29801 > > Tel 803-641-3609, Fax 803-641-3677 > > Web: www.usca.edu/cc > > Email: sandras@usca.edu > > USCA - We're focused on you! > > > > From cbrown at nmsu.edu Thu Dec 14 13:34:18 2006 From: cbrown at nmsu.edu (Carol Brown) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request In-Reply-To: <04EACB4CCDE78242B9449AB0328B0E1104D9084F@MAIL.usca.edu> Message-ID: <005601c71fc7$9c5fb760$1f577b80@ACN.ad.nmsu.edu> I just type in cannot release for the fields requesting info (cannotrelease@aol.com for email). Pearson has never denied a request with this information. Carol S. Brown Assistive Technology Specialist Services for Students with Disabilities New Mexico State University (505) 646-6840 (505) 646-5222 (fax) _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sandra Sanders Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:24 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request In completing my first online request for an alternate text format from Pearson, I was shocked to see they require the student's name, address and email on the Request Form - Students with Disabilities. We're not about to disclose this information! How do you get around this? Sandra Sandra E. Sanders Assistive Technology Center Supervisor Counseling Center & Office of Disability Services University of South Carolina Aiken 471 University Parkway, Box 15 Aiken, SC 29801 Tel 803-641-3609, Fax 803-641-3677 Web: www.usca.edu/cc Email: sandras@usca.edu USCA - We're focused on you! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael-venzon at uiowa.edu Thu Dec 14 13:57:37 2006 From: michael-venzon at uiowa.edu (Venzon, Michael A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request Message-ID: You could also just use your own name - none of the publishing companies have said anything to me and I have done this for the past 4 years... Michael Venzon, M.Ed. The University of Iowa Student Disability Services 3100 Burge Iowa City, IA 52242-1214 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Doug Hayman Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:30 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request How about: Jane Smith 123 Maple Ave, Aiken, SC 29801 or some other bogus name? I've used all sorts of variations for Real Player registration. It is fun to come up with new names and email addresses for them...just to then be allowed custom setup of Real Player. Doug Hayman Technology Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) Box 355670 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Sandra Sanders wrote: > In completing my first online request for an alternate text format from > Pearson, I was shocked to see they require the student's name, address > and email on the Request Form - Students with Disabilities. We're not > about to disclose this information! How do you get around this? > > > > Sandra > > Sandra E. Sanders > > Assistive Technology Center Supervisor > > Counseling Center & Office of Disability Services > > University of South Carolina Aiken > > 471 University Parkway, Box 15 > > Aiken, SC 29801 > > Tel 803-641-3609, Fax 803-641-3677 > > Web: www.usca.edu/cc > > Email: sandras@usca.edu > > USCA - We're focused on you! > > > > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From pauls at cnm.edu Thu Dec 14 14:08:37 2006 From: pauls at cnm.edu (SMARRELLA, PAUL) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request In-Reply-To: <04EACB4CCDE78242B9449AB0328B0E1104D9084F@MAIL.usca.edu> Message-ID: <60DD22EEC446634DB3FE5A9F96B685D713E31F56@EXCHANGE.admin.ad.tvi.edu> I usually just put my name and email and address in place of the student's. I have had no problem yet. A. Paul Smarrella Director, Special Services Central New Mexico Community College 525 Buena Vista SE Albuquerque, NM 87106 505-224-3259 www.cnm.edu pauls@cnm.edu ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sandra Sanders Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:24 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request In completing my first online request for an alternate text format from Pearson, I was shocked to see they require the student's name, address and email on the Request Form - Students with Disabilities. We're not about to disclose this information! How do you get around this? Sandra Sandra E. Sanders Assistive Technology Center Supervisor Counseling Center & Office of Disability Services University of South Carolina Aiken 471 University Parkway, Box 15 Aiken, SC 29801 Tel 803-641-3609, Fax 803-641-3677 Web: www.usca.edu/cc Email: sandras@usca.edu USCA - We're focused on you! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at ucla.edu Thu Dec 14 14:39:42 2006 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] IE7 Compatibility In-Reply-To: References: <04EACB4CCDE78242B9449AB0328B0E1104D9084F@MAIL.usca.edu> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20061214143034.02887df8@ucla.edu> >Hi Everyone, I've been using Jaws 8 with IE7 for a little while now, & so far I'm very favorably impressed.(that is, no major system meltdown!) My question is, how well are other adaptive programs working with IE7? Apparently Kurzweil 3000 has gone the other direction, now optimized to work with Firefox. (Perhaps it's been like this for a long time, but I just found out about it.) Has anyone encountered problems with other software & Ie7? Thanks! Patrick -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke@ucla.edu From rbeach at kckcc.edu Fri Dec 15 05:53:49 2006 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request Message-ID: I have always filled those fileds in with "Confidential" and not had any problems getting the requested materials. I do put my e-mail address in the student's e-mail field and the colleges address in the address field in case they decide to send something via either of those methods. But, for names I simply put confidential. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> SandraS@usca.edu 12/14/2006 3:24 PM >>> In completing my first online request for an alternate text format from Pearson, I was shocked to see they require the student's name, address and email on the Request Form - Students with Disabilities. We're not about to disclose this information! How do you get around this? Sandra Sandra E. Sanders Assistive Technology Center Supervisor Counseling Center & Office of Disability Services University of South Carolina Aiken 471 University Parkway, Box 15 Aiken, SC 29801 Tel 803-641-3609, Fax 803-641-3677 Web: www.usca.edu/cc Email: sandras@usca.edu USCA - We're focused on you! -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by KCKCC's MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu Fri Dec 15 05:44:13 2006 From: saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu (Saroj Primlani) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 11, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1864.24.136.240.97.1166190253.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu> Very interesting article on the dev-accessiblity list about IAccessibile2 which is a extension of MSAA that shows great promise I have cut and pasted the original message Saroj -----Original Message----- From: dev-accessibility-bounces@lists.mozilla.org [mailto:dev-accessibility-bounces@lists.mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Leventhal Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:59 PM To: dev-accessibility@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Introducing IAccessible2: an evolutionary accessibility API IBM and the Free Standards Group (FSG), today announced IBM's donation of a new accessibility API, called IAccessible2, to the Free Standards Group. ** Why a new API? The need for the development of this new accessibility API was clear: 1) Crucial features added: the first generation Windows accessibility API, called MSAA or IAccessible, lacked crucial features, such as support for the caret and selection, accessible relations, rich text editing, multiple actions and many other features necessary for quality support in assistive technologies. 2) Accessibility efforts preserved: an evolutionary path was needed for applications which already had MSAA (IAccessible) support, to support these new features. Rather than throw away the MSAA support that applications already had, it was considered less expensive for both applications and assistive technologies to grow new solutions on top of today's code. 3) Harmonized with other platforms: an API was needed that did not require separate accessibility implementations for each platform. The amount of different code between the ATK/AT-SPI implementations for UNIX accessibility, and IAccessible2 implementations, will be minimized, thus saving resources. This API draft was developed with consultation from a number of groups, including assistive technology vendors, application developers from Mozilla (Aaron Leventhal), developers working on ODF accessibility, and others. ** What is IAccessible2? With the new API, an assistive technology will be able to QueryInterface from an IAccessible*, to IAccessible2*, and to any other supported interfaces. The IAccessible2 interface itself collects important ATK features from other areas, as well some completely new methods and features. These tend to be methods that you may need on any object. For the most part, features were added either to bring Windows capabilities up to the level of ATK/AT-SPI, or in order to support the features of ARIA (previously known of DHTML accessibility). For more information on ARIA, see the links at the end of this email. There are also specialized interfaces which are used only on objects with the given capabilities of that interface. These interfaces generally have a very close equivalent under ATK. In the following list of interface matchups, ATK interfaces are prefaced with "Atk" and IAccessible2 are prefaced with "IAccessible": AtkText ~= IAccessibleText AtkEditableText ~= IAccessibleEditableText AtkHyperText ~= IAccessibleHyperText AtkHyperlink ~= IAccessibleHyperlink AtkImage ~= IAccessibleImage AtkTable ~= IAccessibleTable AtkAction ~= IAccessibleAction AtkValue ~= IAccessibleValue AtkRelation ~= IAccessibleRelation That should give a rough idea that what we're doing is expanding MSAA while matching ATK/AT-SPI to a very helpful degree. For more detail than that, please see the draft interfaces, available here: http://accessibility.freestandards.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs/html/ ** How does IAccessible2 help Mozilla? 1) Support AJAX applications. for example, we will now have the ability to provide any information necessary for completely accessible live regions. There are features for the deliver of advanced ARIA features, such as extensible roles, relations and actions. 2) Support selection and caret. this will help with features such as "select and say" in Dragon Naturally Speaking -- which is currently not supported. It will also remove the need for screen reader hacks to find the caret. Currently, Windows screen readers must replace the video driver on the system and look for screen draws of vertical blinking lines. Over the long term, IAccessible2 is a rich API that will simplify screen reader maintenance, and it will minimize interference with the low level drivers on end user systems. It will also help provide much better screen reader support for rich text editing. 3) Maximize code reuse. in the summer of this year (2006), we moved most of the ATK/AT-SPI support code out of the Linux-only files into a cross-platform area. The code now supports ATK, but it is ready to help support the IAccessible2 interfaces. ** When will Mozilla support IAccessible2? It is expected that Mozilla will be able to deliver basic IAccessible2 support in the Gecko 1.9 / Firefox 3 time frame (something like Q3 2007). Because it is backwards-compatible with MSAA, the current support of Windows screen readers and other assistive technologies for Firefox will continue to work. However, the new capabilities will be exposed, and newer assistive technologies will be able to take advantage of them. Where can I learn more about IAccessible2? 1) FSG IAccessible2 Home Page: http://www.freestandards.org/en/Accessibility/IAccessible2 2) IBM Announcement on IAccessible2: http://www.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/20773.wss 3) Showing the Accessibility Way: IBM Contributes Project Missouri to the Free Standards Group by Andy Updegrove: http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20061214050334 512 4) IBM project aims to help blind use ODF applications - InfoWorld: http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/12/13/HNibmblindodf_1.html 5) IAccessible2 announcement in Japanese: http://release.nikkei.co.jp/detail.cfm?relID=148610&lindID=1 Where can I learn more about ARIA and accessibility for rich internet applications? 1) Roadmap for Accessible Rich Internet Applications (ARIA Roadmap): http://www.w3.org/TR/aria-roadmap/ 2) Roles for Accessible Rich Internet Applications (ARIA Roles): http://www.w3.org/TR/aria-role/ 3) States and Properties Module for Accessible Rich Internet Applications (ARIA States and Properties): http://www.w3.org/TR/aria-state/ 4) Mozilla ARIA documentation: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Accessible_DHTML Where do I learn more about ATK, AT-SPI and UNIX/Linux accessibility in general? http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gap/ Where do I learn more about Mozilla's accessibility work in general? http://www.mozilla.org/access/ This is an exciting time. A number of people worked very hard on this API, and as the press release indicates, a number of organizations have come out to declare support. At the same time, in the Mozilla open community tradition, I'd like hear all kinds of feedback -- praise, questions and concerns. Thank you, Aaron Leventhal IBM web accessibility architect Mozilla accessibility lead _______________________________________________ dev-accessibility mailing list dev-accessibility@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-accessibility > Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Dragon and training (Ed. Rosenthal) > 2. Re: Dragon and training (Stacy L. Smith) > 3. Re: Dragon and training (Wink Harner) > 4. Re: Dragon and training (Ed. Rosenthal) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:44:17 -0800 > From: "Ed. Rosenthal" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training > To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > > Message-ID: <002d01c71f19$00f52de0$0859183f@eros> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Yes, you need to use a .bin file format and place it in the same > locationas > the other DNS .bin files. They must contain only words already in the DNS > vocabulary. > > But with DNS 9 you can skip the training with good success. -ed. > > Yours Sincerely, Edward S. Rosenthal, ATACP Graduate > President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies, Inc. > 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, Wa. 98036. > EM: edward@ngtvoice.com WWW: www.ngtvoice.com > PH: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 FX: 425-778-5547 > > This document was generated using handwriting input on a Motion LE 1600 > Tablet and/or Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional Solutions 8.1 speech > recognition technology (please disregard any odd formatting or remaining > misrecognitions). > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of White, Phillip B. > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:24 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training > > Consider using one of the transcribers working with the deaf students in > your classes. They could type the whole thing pretty quickly. > > Phillip White > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Cal State University los Angeels > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:26 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training > > Does anyone know if it's possible to *create* a training script for > Dragon? > > I'm transcribing a recorded lecture from an instructor, and thought I'd > give > Dragon a whirl -- even if I only get 50% recognition, I'm ahead of > starting > from scratch. The problem is that I doubt I can get the instructor to > leave > her grading long enough to create a profile. I'd like to use a transcript > we've already created to train the program. > > Is this even *remotely* possible? > > Thanks, > Stacy > > Stacy Smith > Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services > 532-6441 > stacylee@ksu.edu > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art > of > Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to > train. > > --Morehei Ueshiba > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:38:45 -0600 > From: "Stacy L. Smith" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > Message-ID: <1166060325.4580ab25a22ad@webmail.ksu.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > It doesn't want to let me set up a recorded user without training....is > there something I'm missing? > > Thanks for the help - > > Stacy > > Quoting "Ed. Rosenthal" : > >> Yes, you need to use a .bin file format and place it in the same >> locationas >> the other DNS .bin files. They must contain only words already in the >> DNS >> vocabulary. >> >> But with DNS 9 you can skip the training with good success. -ed. >> >> Yours Sincerely, Edward S. Rosenthal, ATACP Graduate >> President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies, Inc. >> 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, Wa. 98036. >> EM: edward@ngtvoice.com WWW: www.ngtvoice.com >> PH: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 FX: 425-778-5547 >> >> This document was generated using handwriting input on a Motion LE >> 1600 >> Tablet and/or Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional Solutions 8.1 >> speech >> recognition technology (please disregard any odd formatting or >> remaining >> misrecognitions). >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] >> On >> Behalf Of White, Phillip B. >> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:24 AM >> To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training >> >> Consider using one of the transcribers working with the deaf students >> in >> your classes. They could type the whole thing pretty quickly. >> >> Phillip White >> Adaptive Technology Coordinator >> Cal State University los Angeels >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith >> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:26 AM >> To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training >> >> Does anyone know if it's possible to *create* a training script for >> Dragon? >> >> I'm transcribing a recorded lecture from an instructor, and thought >> I'd give >> Dragon a whirl -- even if I only get 50% recognition, I'm ahead of >> starting >> from scratch. The problem is that I doubt I can get the instructor >> to leave >> her grading long enough to create a profile. I'd like to use a >> transcript >> we've already created to train the program. >> >> Is this even *remotely* possible? >> >> Thanks, >> Stacy >> >> Stacy Smith >> Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services >> 532-6441 >> stacylee@ksu.edu >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the >> Art of >> Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place >> to >> train. >> >> --Morehei Ueshiba >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> > > > Stacy Smith > Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services > 532-6441 > stacylee@ksu.edu > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the > Art of > Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place > to > train. > > --Morehei Ueshiba > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:41:19 -0700 > From: "Wink Harner" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training > To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" > > Message-ID: <45791D9500000DBF@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > HI Stacy, > > It's probably asking you to set the noise level from the environment, set > the input level on the mike and set the recording quality level. It's not > training as such. Really amounts to a standard "mike check" you would do > on the stage before a performance (tick tick tick, > "one-two-three-four...is > this thing ON???" sort of test. You should then get a screen with an > option > to skip the introduction and other training. > > Another really good thing to check on the tools menu is to look for the > "import > vocabulary" --the program can mine your (the professor's) document & email > files for vocabulary & writing style and import directly to DNS. Gives > much > faster, much more accurate recognition up front. > > Does this answer your questions? > > Let me know --I'm quite proficient on Dragon! > > Blessings in abundance, > > Ms. Wink Harner > Manager > Disability Resources & Services > Mesa Community College > Mesa, AZ > > >>-- Original Message -- >>Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:38:45 -0600 >>From: "Stacy L. Smith" >>To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >>Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training >>Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> >> >> >>It doesn't want to let me set up a recorded user without training....is >>there something I'm missing? >> >>Thanks for the help - >> >>Stacy >> >>Quoting "Ed. Rosenthal" : >> >>> Yes, you need to use a .bin file format and place it in the same >>> locationas >>> the other DNS .bin files. They must contain only words already in the >>> DNS >>> vocabulary. >>> >>> But with DNS 9 you can skip the training with good success. -ed. >>> >>> Yours Sincerely, Edward S. Rosenthal, ATACP Graduate >>> President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies, Inc. >>> 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, Wa. 98036. >>> EM: edward@ngtvoice.com WWW: www.ngtvoice.com >>> PH: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 FX: 425-778-5547 >>> >>> This document was generated using handwriting input on a Motion LE >>> 1600 >>> Tablet and/or Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional Solutions 8.1 >>> speech >>> recognition technology (please disregard any odd formatting or >>> remaining >>> misrecognitions). >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] >>> On >>> Behalf Of White, Phillip B. >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:24 AM >>> To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >>> Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training >>> >>> Consider using one of the transcribers working with the deaf students >>> in >>> your classes. They could type the whole thing pretty quickly. >>> >>> Phillip White >>> Adaptive Technology Coordinator >>> Cal State University los Angeels >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:26 AM >>> To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >>> Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training >>> >>> Does anyone know if it's possible to *create* a training script for >>> Dragon? >>> >>> I'm transcribing a recorded lecture from an instructor, and thought >>> I'd give >>> Dragon a whirl -- even if I only get 50% recognition, I'm ahead of >>> starting >>> from scratch. The problem is that I doubt I can get the instructor >>> to leave >>> her grading long enough to create a profile. I'd like to use a >>> transcript >>> we've already created to train the program. >>> >>> Is this even *remotely* possible? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Stacy >>> >>> Stacy Smith >>> Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services >>> 532-6441 >>> stacylee@ksu.edu >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the >>> Art of >>> Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place >>> to >>> train. >>> >>> --Morehei Ueshiba >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Athen mailing list >>> Athen@athenpro.org >>> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Athen mailing list >>> Athen@athenpro.org >>> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Athen mailing list >>> Athen@athenpro.org >>> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >>> >>> >> >> >>Stacy Smith >>Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services >>532-6441 >>stacylee@ksu.edu >> >>~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the >>Art of >>Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place >>to >>train. >> >>--Morehei Ueshiba >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Athen mailing list >>Athen@athenpro.org >>http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > Ms. Wink Harner > Manager > Disability Resources & Services > Mesa Community College > Mesa AZ > > 480-461-7447 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 06:21:25 -0800 > From: "Ed. Rosenthal" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training > To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > > Message-ID: <00a601c71f8b$2a74c780$934c183f@eros> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Stacy-you are right, the recorder profile requires training. However you > can > use a regular .wav profile (i.e. microphone) and then have the recorder > software convert to.wav on download which will eliminate the need for > training. -ed. > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 5:39 PM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training > > It doesn't want to let me set up a recorded user without training....is > there something I'm missing? > > Thanks for the help - > > Stacy > > Quoting "Ed. Rosenthal" : > >> Yes, you need to use a .bin file format and place it in the same >> locationas the other DNS .bin files. They must contain only words >> already in the DNS vocabulary. >> >> But with DNS 9 you can skip the training with good success. -ed. >> >> Yours Sincerely, Edward S. Rosenthal, ATACP Graduate President and >> CEO, Next Generation Technologies, Inc. >> 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, Wa. 98036. >> EM: edward@ngtvoice.com WWW: www.ngtvoice.com >> PH: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 FX: 425-778-5547 >> >> This document was generated using handwriting input on a Motion LE >> 1600 Tablet and/or Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional Solutions 8.1 >> speech recognition technology (please disregard any odd formatting or >> remaining misrecognitions). >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] >> On >> Behalf Of White, Phillip B. >> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:24 AM >> To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training >> >> Consider using one of the transcribers working with the deaf students >> in your classes. They could type the whole thing pretty quickly. >> >> Phillip White >> Adaptive Technology Coordinator >> Cal State University los Angeels >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith >> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:26 AM >> To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training >> >> Does anyone know if it's possible to *create* a training script for >> Dragon? >> >> I'm transcribing a recorded lecture from an instructor, and thought >> I'd give Dragon a whirl -- even if I only get 50% recognition, I'm >> ahead of starting from scratch. The problem is that I doubt I can get >> the instructor to leave her grading long enough to create a profile. >> I'd like to use a transcript we've already created to train the >> program. >> >> Is this even *remotely* possible? >> >> Thanks, >> Stacy >> >> Stacy Smith >> Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services >> 532-6441 >> stacylee@ksu.edu >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the >> Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the >> place to train. >> >> --Morehei Ueshiba >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> > > > Stacy Smith > Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services > 532-6441 > stacylee@ksu.edu > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art > of > Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to > train. > > --Morehei Ueshiba > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 11, Issue 17 > ************************************* > From stacylee at ksu.edu Fri Dec 15 09:10:24 2006 From: stacylee at ksu.edu (Stacy L. Smith) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1166202624.4582d70080961@webmail.ksu.edu> Thanks to everyone for your help with Dragon. At this point, I'm pretty much listening to the instructor and then talking to Dragon myself :) Stacy Quoting "Kelmer, Susan M." : > >Is this even *remotely* possible? > > That would be pretty much a no. Dragon uses its own scripts, that's > how it > works at identifying how a person pronounces certain things. The > instructor > would have to train it him/herself. > > Susan Kelmer > Coordinator > Information ACCESS Lab > St. Louis Community College at Meramec > 314/984-7951 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba From Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu Fri Dec 15 09:22:23 2006 From: Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu (Baker, Nick) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:13 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training In-Reply-To: <1166202624.4582d70080961@webmail.ksu.edu> Message-ID: That's what our c-print folks do--using Dragon, of course, rather than the imho inadequate ViaVoice package that comes with c-print Nick Baker Assistive Technology Coordinator nick.baker@umontana.edu 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) 406-243-2663 (Voice only) Disability Services for Students The University of Montana EL 154 32 Campus Drive Missoula, MT 59812 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:10 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; Kelmer, Susan M. Cc: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training Thanks to everyone for your help with Dragon. At this point, I'm pretty much listening to the instructor and then talking to Dragon myself :) Stacy Quoting "Kelmer, Susan M." : > >Is this even *remotely* possible? > > That would be pretty much a no. Dragon uses its own scripts, that's > how it > works at identifying how a person pronounces certain things. The > instructor > would have to train it him/herself. > > Susan Kelmer > Coordinator > Information ACCESS Lab > St. Louis Community College at Meramec > 314/984-7951 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > Stacy Smith Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services 532-6441 stacylee@ksu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~ One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the Art of Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place to train. --Morehei Ueshiba _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jbailey at uoregon.edu Fri Dec 15 09:26:52 2006 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:13 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nick - Do your c-print folks use a steno mask or conventional mic headset? - James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@darkwing.uoregon.edu On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Baker, Nick wrote: > That's what our c-print folks do--using Dragon, of course, rather than > the imho inadequate ViaVoice package that comes with c-print > > Nick Baker > Assistive Technology Coordinator > nick.baker@umontana.edu > 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) > 406-243-2663 (Voice only) > > Disability Services for Students > The University of Montana > EL 154 > 32 Campus Drive > Missoula, MT 59812 > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:10 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; Kelmer, Susan M. > Cc: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training > > Thanks to everyone for your help with Dragon. At this point, I'm pretty > much listening to the instructor and then talking to Dragon myself :) > > Stacy > > Quoting "Kelmer, Susan M." : > >>> Is this even *remotely* possible? >> >> That would be pretty much a no. Dragon uses its own scripts, that's >> how it >> works at identifying how a person pronounces certain things. The >> instructor >> would have to train it him/herself. >> >> Susan Kelmer >> Coordinator >> Information ACCESS Lab >> St. Louis Community College at Meramec >> 314/984-7951 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> > > > Stacy Smith > Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services > 532-6441 > stacylee@ksu.edu > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the > Art of > Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place > to > train. > > --Morehei Ueshiba > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > From Julie.Joffray at tamucc.edu Thu Dec 14 13:57:38 2006 From: Julie.Joffray at tamucc.edu (Joffray, Julie) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:13 2018 Subject: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request In-Reply-To: <04EACB4CCDE78242B9449AB0328B0E1104D9084F@MAIL.usca.edu> Message-ID: <2A3F9E6AB1D44E4B9A73FC6817FC32722E0136@Hermes.ad.tamucc.edu> I just put my name, email and mailing address in the place of the student's. I've never had any trouble. Julie Joffray Disability Accommodations Specialist Disability Services Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi 6300 Ocean Drive, UNIT 5717 Corpus Christi, TX 78412-5717 Office: 361.825.2155 Fax: 361.825.2536 Email: Julie.Joffray@tamucc.edu Department Website: http://disabilityservices.tamucc.edu University Website: http://www.tamucc.edu "Aspire to Inspire before you Expire" ~unknown ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sandra Sanders Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:24 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request In completing my first online request for an alternate text format from Pearson, I was shocked to see they require the student's name, address and email on the Request Form - Students with Disabilities. We're not about to disclose this information! How do you get around this? Sandra Sandra E. Sanders Assistive Technology Center Supervisor Counseling Center & Office of Disability Services University of South Carolina Aiken 471 University Parkway, Box 15 Aiken, SC 29801 Tel 803-641-3609, Fax 803-641-3677 Web: www.usca.edu/cc Email: sandras@usca.edu USCA - We're focused on you! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu Fri Dec 15 09:54:16 2006 From: Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu (Baker, Nick) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:13 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon and training In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We use the court steno's mask/microphone from Martel Electronics. It is hard plastic with a neoprene gasket which is pressed against the face. Our C-printers prefer the optional leather gasket. Ifirc, the mask is $59 and the leather gasket ~ $20 Nick Nick Baker Assistive Technology Coordinator nick.baker@umontana.edu 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) 406-243-2663 (Voice only) Disability Services for Students The University of Montana EL 154 32 Campus Drive Missoula, MT 59812 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:27 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training Nick - Do your c-print folks use a steno mask or conventional mic headset? - James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@darkwing.uoregon.edu On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Baker, Nick wrote: > That's what our c-print folks do--using Dragon, of course, rather than > the imho inadequate ViaVoice package that comes with c-print > > Nick Baker > Assistive Technology Coordinator > nick.baker@umontana.edu > 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) > 406-243-2663 (Voice only) > > Disability Services for Students > The University of Montana > EL 154 > 32 Campus Drive > Missoula, MT 59812 > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Stacy L. Smith > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:10 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; Kelmer, Susan M. > Cc: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon and training > > Thanks to everyone for your help with Dragon. At this point, I'm pretty > much listening to the instructor and then talking to Dragon myself :) > > Stacy > > Quoting "Kelmer, Susan M." : > >>> Is this even *remotely* possible? >> >> That would be pretty much a no. Dragon uses its own scripts, that's >> how it >> works at identifying how a person pronounces certain things. The >> instructor >> would have to train it him/herself. >> >> Susan Kelmer >> Coordinator >> Information ACCESS Lab >> St. Louis Community College at Meramec >> 314/984-7951 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> > > > Stacy Smith > Adaptive Technology Specialist, Disability Support Services > 532-6441 > stacylee@ksu.edu > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > One does not need buildings, money, power, or status to practice the > Art of > Peace. Heaven is right where you are standing, and that is the place > to > train. > > --Morehei Ueshiba > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu Fri Dec 15 09:54:39 2006 From: Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu (Nusen, Michael) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:13 2018 Subject: [Athen] IE7 Compatibility Message-ID: <0B6DCE7FD0CAC8499F3F32584186A32504C38024@ppcca1.ppcc.ccofc.edu> Victor ReaderSoft for reading Daisy formatted CDs is not compatible with IE7 - quite confusing for students who upgrade to IE7 & don't realize this is why VRS doesn't work... -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Burke Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:40 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] IE7 Compatibility >Hi Everyone, I've been using Jaws 8 with IE7 for a little while now, & so far I'm very favorably impressed.(that is, no major system meltdown!) My question is, how well are other adaptive programs working with IE7? Apparently Kurzweil 3000 has gone the other direction, now optimized to work with Firefox. (Perhaps it's been like this for a long time, but I just found out about it.) Has anyone encountered problems with other software & Ie7? Thanks! Patrick -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke@ucla.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Marks at mso.umt.edu Fri Dec 15 10:54:53 2006 From: Marks at mso.umt.edu (Marks, Jim) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:13 2018 Subject: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request In-Reply-To: <04EACB4CCDE78242B9449AB0328B0E1104D9084F@MAIL.usca.edu> Message-ID: We provide the publisher with the information they request. To deal with confidentiality concerns, we have student complete a print to e-text conversion form that gives our office permission to pass the student's information to the publisher. It also verifies that the student bought a copy of the book and that the person is indeed a bona fide person with a print disability. The reason we do it this way is that we want students to be in the driver's seat. It's not the university that has the relationship with the publisher, rather, it's the individual with a disability. The role of the university disability service is to facilitate the relationship between students with disabilities and the publisher. Sometimes we DS professionals go overboard in confidentiality concerns, and we have a bad habit of making the issue about us and not putting the correct emphasis on the student's right to read. Should a student refuse to disclose the information, we would probably find another way to get that person an accessible book, such as hiring a human reader. It's just that we are trying to change what it means to have a disability so that disability is respectable. We want our students to be first class citizens, not the objects of an agency's good works. Below is a cut and paste version of the form we have students sign. We then just plug in the information on our form onto the publisher's online form. As a University of Montana-Missoula student with a print disability, I request that Disability Services for Students convert the title below to electronic text, which is accessible to me, for my personal educational use. I also ask that DSS submit this title in its converted form to Bookshare.org on my behalf. I certify that I have purchased this book in print and understand that this form may be submitted to the book publisher. Signature: ____________________________________ Date: _______________________ Today's Date: ______________________ Student Name: _____________________________ Student E-mail: ________________________________ Student Phone: ______________________ Disability Services Coordinator Name: ___________________________ Book Title: ________________________________________________________________ Authors/Editors: ____________________________________________________________ Edition: ________________________ ISBN#: ___________________________________ Publisher: ______________________________________ Copyright Date: _____________ Please direct any correspondence to: Disability Services Director Jim Marks Lommasson 154 University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 (406) 243-2243 (Voice/Text) jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sandra Sanders Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:24 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request In completing my first online request for an alternate text format from Pearson, I was shocked to see they require the student's name, address and email on the Request Form - Students with Disabilities. We're not about to disclose this information! How do you get around this? Sandra Sandra E. Sanders Assistive Technology Center Supervisor Counseling Center & Office of Disability Services University of South Carolina Aiken 471 University Parkway, Box 15 Aiken, SC 29801 Tel 803-641-3609, Fax 803-641-3677 Web: www.usca.edu/cc Email: sandras@usca.edu USCA - We're focused on you! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: attd5d5d.gif Type: image/gif Size: 934 bytes Desc: attd5d5d.gif URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There are also problems with MathPlayer and integration with IE 7 and the recommendation is to not install IE 7 if you need MathML support. Take care, Sean -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Burke Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:40 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] IE7 Compatibility >Hi Everyone, I've been using Jaws 8 with IE7 for a little while now, & so far I'm very favorably impressed.(that is, no major system meltdown!) My question is, how well are other adaptive programs working with IE7? Apparently Kurzweil 3000 has gone the other direction, now optimized to work with Firefox. (Perhaps it's been like this for a long time, but I just found out about it.) Has anyone encountered problems with other software & Ie7? Thanks! Patrick -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke@ucla.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Lissner.2 at osu.edu Fri Dec 15 19:11:02 2006 From: Lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, Scott) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:13 2018 Subject: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <80FCE4F8AFF74D4EAF5AE29906BFC6B5244731@Yukon.admin.ohio-state.edu> While I might argue that in this instance the publisher could be considered an agent of the institution with a need to know, Jim has nicely covered all of the bases, involved the students in the management of their own needs and given them the opportunity to think about intellectual property and it's theft. Not bad for a day's work Jim. While I think publisher may be a bit paranoid (anyone know of a case where a student with a disability emailed his or her digital text to thousands or even tens of people?) I don't think FERPA's intent was to hinder publishers in guarding their rights. I am positive that the ADA's and 504's protections against outing a student would not prevent this flow of information but it is better all around to inform the student up front. L. Scott Lissner, ADA Coordinator Office Of The Provost 292-6207(v); 688-8605(tty); 688-3665(fax) HTTP://ADA.OSU.EDU ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Marks, Jim Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:55 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request We provide the publisher with the information they request. To deal with confidentiality concerns, we have student complete a print to e-text conversion form that gives our office permission to pass the student's information to the publisher. It also verifies that the student bought a copy of the book and that the person is indeed a bona fide person with a print disability. The reason we do it this way is that we want students to be in the driver's seat. It's not the university that has the relationship with the publisher, rather, it's the individual with a disability. The role of the university disability service is to facilitate the relationship between students with disabilities and the publisher. Sometimes we DS professionals go overboard in confidentiality concerns, and we have a bad habit of making the issue about us and not putting the correct emphasis on the student's right to read. Should a student refuse to disclose the information, we would probably find another way to get that person an accessible book, such as hiring a human reader. It's just that we are trying to change what it means to have a disability so that disability is respectable. We want our students to be first class citizens, not the objects of an agency's good works. Below is a cut and paste version of the form we have students sign. We then just plug in the information on our form onto the publisher's online form. As a University of Montana-Missoula student with a print disability, I request that Disability Services for Students convert the title below to electronic text, which is accessible to me, for my personal educational use. I also ask that DSS submit this title in its converted form to Bookshare.org on my behalf. I certify that I have purchased this book in print and understand that this form may be submitted to the book publisher. Signature: ____________________________________ Date: _______________________ Today's Date: ______________________ Student Name: _____________________________ Student E-mail: ________________________________ Student Phone: ______________________ Disability Services Coordinator Name: ___________________________ Book Title: ________________________________________________________________ Authors/Editors: ____________________________________________________________ Edition: ________________________ ISBN#: ___________________________________ Publisher: ______________________________________ Copyright Date: _____________ Please direct any correspondence to: Disability Services Director Jim Marks Lommasson 154 University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 (406) 243-2243 (Voice/Text) jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sandra Sanders Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:24 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request In completing my first online request for an alternate text format from Pearson, I was shocked to see they require the student's name, address and email on the Request Form - Students with Disabilities. We're not about to disclose this information! How do you get around this? Sandra Sandra E. Sanders Assistive Technology Center Supervisor Counseling Center & Office of Disability Services University of South Carolina Aiken 471 University Parkway, Box 15 Aiken, SC 29801 Tel 803-641-3609, Fax 803-641-3677 Web: www.usca.edu/cc Email: sandras@usca.edu USCA - We're focused on you! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: attd5d5d.gif Type: image/gif Size: 934 bytes Desc: attd5d5d.gif URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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While I think publisher may be a bit paranoid (anyone know of a case where a student with a disability emailed his or her digital text to thousands or even tens of people?) I don't think FERPA's intent was to hinder publishers in guarding their rights. I am positive that the ADA's and 504's protections against outing a student would not prevent this flow of information but it is better all around to inform the student up front. L. Scott Lissner, ADA Coordinator Office Of The Provost 292-6207(v); 688-8605(tty); 688-3665(fax) HTTP://ADA.OSU.EDU ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Marks, Jim Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:55 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request We provide the publisher with the information they request. To deal with confidentiality concerns, we have student complete a print to e-text conversion form that gives our office permission to pass the student's information to the publisher. It also verifies that the student bought a copy of the book and that the person is indeed a bona fide person with a print disability. The reason we do it this way is that we want students to be in the driver's seat. It's not the university that has the relationship with the publisher, rather, it's the individual with a disability. The role of the university disability service is to facilitate the relationship between students with disabilities and the publisher. Sometimes we DS professionals go overboard in confidentiality concerns, and we have a bad habit of making the issue about us and not putting the correct emphasis on the student's right to read. Should a student refuse to disclose the information, we would probably find another way to get that person an accessible book, such as hiring a human reader. It's just that we are trying to change what it means to have a disability so that disability is respectable. We want our students to be first class citizens, not the objects of an agency's good works. Below is a cut and paste version of the form we have students sign. We then just plug in the information on our form onto the publisher's online form. As a University of Montana-Missoula student with a print disability, I request that Disability Services for Students convert the title below to electronic text, which is accessible to me, for my personal educational use. I also ask that DSS submit this title in its converted form to Bookshare.org on my behalf. I certify that I have purchased this book in print and understand that this form may be submitted to the book publisher. Signature: ____________________________________ Date: _______________________ Today's Date: ______________________ Student Name: _____________________________ Student E-mail: ________________________________ Student Phone: ______________________ Disability Services Coordinator Name: ___________________________ Book Title: ________________________________________________________________ Authors/Editors: ____________________________________________________________ Edition: ________________________ ISBN#: ___________________________________ Publisher: ______________________________________ Copyright Date: _____________ Please direct any correspondence to: Disability Services Director Jim Marks Lommasson 154 University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 (406) 243-2243 (Voice/Text) jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sandra Sanders Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:24 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Confidentiality issue on etext request In completing my first online request for an alternate text format from Pearson, I was shocked to see they require the student's name, address and email on the Request Form - Students with Disabilities. We're not about to disclose this information! How do you get around this? Sandra Sandra E. Sanders Assistive Technology Center Supervisor Counseling Center & Office of Disability Services University of South Carolina Aiken 471 University Parkway, Box 15 Aiken, SC 29801 Tel 803-641-3609, Fax 803-641-3677 Web: www.usca.edu/cc Email: sandras@usca.edu USCA - We're focused on you! From jane.mulrooney at NAU.EDU Mon Dec 18 15:45:10 2006 From: jane.mulrooney at NAU.EDU (Jane Mulrooney) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:13 2018 Subject: [Athen] Job Announcement Message-ID: <45872806.5080501@nau.edu> *Assistive Technology Specialist - #556712* Northern Arizona University's Disability Support Services in Flagstaff, AZ is seeking a Assistive Technology Specialist to provide individualized training and support in the use and identification of assistive hardware and software to individuals with disabilities; identify, review, and recommend assistive software and/or equipment to serve as a reasonable accommodation for individuals with disabilities; answer questions, provide resources, resolve problems and research adaptive computer technology options; install, configure, maintain and trouble-shoot assistive technology products; and conduct assistive technology product demonstrations for university educators, students, departments, and other disability service providers. *Minimum Qualifications: *Bachelor's degree in Computer Science or related field AND two years systems and/or programming experience; OR, four years of systems and/or programming experience; OR, any equivalent combination of experience, training and/or education. *Preferred Qualifications: *CSUN certification in Assistive Technology *Annual Salary: *$50,000 - 55,000 depending on experience.** *Application Deadline: *January 2, 2007. *NAU's employment application is now on-line! Please see _www.nau.jobs_ for full job descriptions and details on how to apply! */NAU is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Institution. Women, minorities, veterans and individuals with disabilities are encouraged to apply./** -- Jane Mulrooney Director, Disability Support Services Phone 928-523-8773 Fax 928-523-8747 P.O. Box 5633 Flagstaff, AZ 86011-5633 Jane.Mulrooney@nau.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu Tue Dec 19 14:03:25 2006 From: gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu (Gerry Nies) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:13 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning Breeze Message-ID: Is anyone doing it? How are you doing it? thanks Gerry Nies Information Technology Tech University of North Dakota Disability Support Services McCannel Hall Room 190 2891 2nd Avenue North Stop 9040 Grand Forks, ND 58202-9040 (701)777-3827 (701)777-4170 FAX gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu STOP! This message is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are NOT the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the above mentioned e-mail or telephone number and delete this e-mail from your computer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cathk at cahs.colostate.edu Tue Dec 19 14:18:33 2006 From: cathk at cahs.colostate.edu (Kilcommons,Cath) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:13 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning Breeze In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Not doing it, but I did see a presentation at AHG 2005 regarding CaptionKeeper from NCAM http://ncamftp.wgbh.org/captionkeeper/HelpFiles/index.htm. Best regards, Cath ++++++ Cath Stager-Kilcommons ACCESS Project Access Specialist Assistive Technology Resource Center (ATRC) Colorado State University 970-491-0788 http://accessibility.colostate.edu/ http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/ATRC/ cathk@cahs.colostate.edu ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gerry Nies Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 3:03 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Captioning Breeze Is anyone doing it? How are you doing it? thanks Gerry Nies Information Technology Tech University of North Dakota Disability Support Services McCannel Hall Room 190 2891 2nd Avenue North Stop 9040 Grand Forks, ND 58202-9040 (701)777-3827 (701)777-4170 FAX gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu STOP! This message is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are NOT the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the above mentioned e-mail or telephone number and delete this e-mail from your computer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascher at asub.edu Wed Dec 20 14:24:00 2006 From: hascher at asub.edu (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:13 2018 Subject: [Athen] WebCT accessibility issues Message-ID: Happy holidays to everyone! I've been asked to assist our director of distance ed develop some additional training for our faculty who have online classes. We are about to have WebCT 6.0 up and going after the first of the year. The director would like me to develop info regarding accessibility issues. Since it's been at least 3-4 years since I played with WebCT and accessibility, I'm totally in the dark here. Any suggestions regarding issues and corrective measures would be helpful!! TIA!!! Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Counselor/Coordinator of Disability Services Arkansas State University - Beebe 501-882-8263 V/T From Tim.Sears at mcckc.edu Thu Dec 21 12:17:11 2006 From: Tim.Sears at mcckc.edu (Tim Sears) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:13 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 11, Issue 25 Message-ID: <458A976702000067000084F6@MAIL.MCCKC.EDU> Well, I have not used Web Ct but I have used Blackboard and I imagine the accessibility issues are somewhat similar. Some things to watch out for is threaded discussions. I inform my students to input information in the Subject line that will discussion it from 1 line to the next example. Bad example: RE: website Good example RE: website 12/21/06 2:10 PM Tim Sears This allows the user to distiguish one threaded link from another. Other issues regarding accessibility include: making sure that if teachers add video clips, images that they have a way to tag the images. Also often teachers will use the test generator and ask question to identify or click on a part of a map etc. My advice would be to find an alternative way to ask these questions for those who are blind or low vision >>> 12/21/06 2:00 PM >>> Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. WebCT accessibility issues (Heidi Scher) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:24:00 -0600 From: Heidi Scher Subject: [Athen] WebCT accessibility issues To: "'athen@athenpro.org'" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Happy holidays to everyone! I've been asked to assist our director of distance ed develop some additional training for our faculty who have online classes. We are about to have WebCT 6.0 up and going after the first of the year. The director would like me to develop info regarding accessibility issues. Since it's been at least 3-4 years since I played with WebCT and accessibility, I'm totally in the dark here. Any suggestions regarding issues and corrective measures would be helpful!! TIA!!! Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Counselor/Coordinator of Disability Services Arkansas State University - Beebe 501-882-8263 V/T ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 11, Issue 25 *************************************