From Howard.Kramer at colorado.edu Mon May 15 17:02:01 2006 From: Howard.Kramer at colorado.edu (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20060515175440.03896eb0@buffmail.colorado.edu> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From WCOCCHI at cscc.edu Mon May 15 17:03:46 2006 From: WCOCCHI at cscc.edu (Wayne Cocchi) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference (I am sorry but I will be out of the office.) Message-ID: Hello and thank you for your e-mail. I am sorry I can not respond to you at this time. I will be out of the office on vacation May 15th-19th. I will return May 22nd. If you would like, please leave a message and I will respond as soon as possible. During my absence, Nellie Nelson, Assistant Director, nnelson@cscc.edu or 614-287-2571 (V/TTY), will be overseeing the department. In addition, if you wish to speak with someone today, you may call Betty Brown at 614-287-2570 (V/TTY) and you will be directed to the appropriate staff. Thank you and have a good day. >>> athen 05/15/06 20:02 >>> From ea at emptech.info Tue May 16 01:34:16 2006 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference and survey In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20060515175440.03896eb0@buffmail.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <001401c678c3$84874050$0a01a8c0@laptop> E.A. was that woman with the "across the pond" accent at the back of the CSUN meeting!! Ron what do you think? Should I not get too excited and relax about it all - I have not done any sums for the cost of it all. I am trying to collect Daisy items from UK at the moment for the June workshops. See you soon Looks like Manchester Uni are still keen for us to collaborate on the survey and have a UK version - must anglicise some questions and get them back to you Terry for approval. Best Wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Assistive Technologist Mobile: 07976 289103 http://www.emptech.info/ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:02 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference Hello All: I've update the session list at this year's AHG conference, particularly flagging the sessions that are part of the ATHEN track. (Thank you Dan for catching that). You can view the update at: http://www.colorado.edu/ATconference/SessionList-2006.htm If I included anyone in the ATHEN track or excluded anyone mistakenly, let me know. Sean, I didn't include your session "Lab: Creating Accessible PDF Forms using Adobe Acrobat Professional" because I didn't have it on my list from CSUN. Let me know if I should add it. Gaeir, Ron - I had your e-text pre-conf as ATHEN sessions from my CSUN notes but I want to make sure -- is this supposed to perhaps be an AHEAD session? And from my notes from CSUN, I had listed "Centers of Excellence / Dolphin" - Ron S./ E.A. (I'm not sure who E.A. is). Should I be reserving a slot for this session? Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 NOTICE: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C._2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to the sender that you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you for helping to maintain privacy. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 From gdietrich at htctu.net Tue May 16 11:13:39 2006 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference and survey In-Reply-To: <001401c678c3$84874050$0a01a8c0@laptop> Message-ID: <006a01c67914$7512c8f0$5e821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Whoa, EA, read your post and my first thought was, "Why would Manchester United be interested in assistive technology?"...I guess World Cup fever is catching up with me... ;-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich Alternate Media Training Specialist / Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 408.996.6043 www.htctu.net -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of E.A. Draffan Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:34 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference and survey E.A. was that woman with the "across the pond" accent at the back of the CSUN meeting!! Ron what do you think? Should I not get too excited and relax about it all - I have not done any sums for the cost of it all. I am trying to collect Daisy items from UK at the moment for the June workshops. See you soon Looks like Manchester Uni are still keen for us to collaborate on the survey and have a UK version - must anglicise some questions and get them back to you Terry for approval. Best Wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Assistive Technologist Mobile: 07976 289103 http://www.emptech.info/ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:02 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference Hello All: I've update the session list at this year's AHG conference, particularly flagging the sessions that are part of the ATHEN track. (Thank you Dan for catching that). You can view the update at: http://www.colorado.edu/ATconference/SessionList-2006.htm If I included anyone in the ATHEN track or excluded anyone mistakenly, let me know. Sean, I didn't include your session "Lab: Creating Accessible PDF Forms using Adobe Acrobat Professional" because I didn't have it on my list from CSUN. Let me know if I should add it. Gaeir, Ron - I had your e-text pre-conf as ATHEN sessions from my CSUN notes but I want to make sure -- is this supposed to perhaps be an AHEAD session? And from my notes from CSUN, I had listed "Centers of Excellence / Dolphin" - Ron S./ E.A. (I'm not sure who E.A. is). Should I be reserving a slot for this session? Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 NOTICE: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C._2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to the sender that you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you for helping to maintain privacy. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 From aryssemu at sdccd.edu Tue May 16 11:27:17 2006 From: aryssemu at sdccd.edu (Andre Ryssemus) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference and survey Message-ID: <05C9F46F0779EA48B8D64113FBDC86810141805D@ntxdo.sdccd.cc.ca.us> Ga Nederland gaat sinaasappel, in het wereldkampioenschap!. GO HOLLAND !, GO ORANGE !, IN THE WORLD CUP. Got to love the fever as well. Andre Ryssemus SDCCD/ DSPS -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:14 AM To: ea@emptech.info; 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference and survey Whoa, EA, read your post and my first thought was, "Why would Manchester United be interested in assistive technology?"...I guess World Cup fever is catching up with me... ;-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich Alternate Media Training Specialist / Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 408.996.6043 www.htctu.net -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of E.A. Draffan Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:34 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference and survey E.A. was that woman with the "across the pond" accent at the back of the CSUN meeting!! Ron what do you think? Should I not get too excited and relax about it all - I have not done any sums for the cost of it all. I am trying to collect Daisy items from UK at the moment for the June workshops. See you soon Looks like Manchester Uni are still keen for us to collaborate on the survey and have a UK version - must anglicise some questions and get them back to you Terry for approval. Best Wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Assistive Technologist Mobile: 07976 289103 http://www.emptech.info/ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:02 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference Hello All: I've update the session list at this year's AHG conference, particularly flagging the sessions that are part of the ATHEN track. (Thank you Dan for catching that). You can view the update at: http://www.colorado.edu/ATconference/SessionList-2006.htm If I included anyone in the ATHEN track or excluded anyone mistakenly, let me know. Sean, I didn't include your session "Lab: Creating Accessible PDF Forms using Adobe Acrobat Professional" because I didn't have it on my list from CSUN. Let me know if I should add it. Gaeir, Ron - I had your e-text pre-conf as ATHEN sessions from my CSUN notes but I want to make sure -- is this supposed to perhaps be an AHEAD session? And from my notes from CSUN, I had listed "Centers of Excellence / Dolphin" - Ron S./ E.A. (I'm not sure who E.A. is). Should I be reserving a slot for this session? Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 NOTICE: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C._2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to the sender that you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you for helping to maintain privacy. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ea at emptech.info Wed May 17 07:32:12 2006 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference and survey In-Reply-To: <05C9F46F0779EA48B8D64113FBDC86810141805D@ntxdo.sdccd.cc.ca.us> Message-ID: <001101c679be$b09d3e00$0a01a8c0@laptop> Ok als Engeland niet om te winnen moet het Holland zijn! Ok if England doesn't win it will have to be Holland! I am off to eat the last of my zoute drop (finished the CSUN/Dan jelly beans long ago!) as I work on the Athen survey for UK! Best Wishes E.A. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Andre Ryssemus Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 7:27 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference and survey Ga Nederland gaat sinaasappel, in het wereldkampioenschap!. GO HOLLAND !, GO ORANGE !, IN THE WORLD CUP. Got to love the fever as well. Andre Ryssemus SDCCD/ DSPS -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:14 AM To: ea@emptech.info; 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference and survey Whoa, EA, read your post and my first thought was, "Why would Manchester United be interested in assistive technology?"...I guess World Cup fever is catching up with me... ;-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich Alternate Media Training Specialist / Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 408.996.6043 www.htctu.net -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of E.A. Draffan Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:34 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference and survey E.A. was that woman with the "across the pond" accent at the back of the CSUN meeting!! Ron what do you think? Should I not get too excited and relax about it all - I have not done any sums for the cost of it all. I am trying to collect Daisy items from UK at the moment for the June workshops. See you soon Looks like Manchester Uni are still keen for us to collaborate on the survey and have a UK version - must anglicise some questions and get them back to you Terry for approval. Best Wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Assistive Technologist Mobile: 07976 289103 http://www.emptech.info/ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:02 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference Hello All: I've update the session list at this year's AHG conference, particularly flagging the sessions that are part of the ATHEN track. (Thank you Dan for catching that). You can view the update at: http://www.colorado.edu/ATconference/SessionList-2006.htm If I included anyone in the ATHEN track or excluded anyone mistakenly, let me know. Sean, I didn't include your session "Lab: Creating Accessible PDF Forms using Adobe Acrobat Professional" because I didn't have it on my list from CSUN. Let me know if I should add it. Gaeir, Ron - I had your e-text pre-conf as ATHEN sessions from my CSUN notes but I want to make sure -- is this supposed to perhaps be an AHEAD session? And from my notes from CSUN, I had listed "Centers of Excellence / Dolphin" - Ron S./ E.A. (I'm not sure who E.A. is). Should I be reserving a slot for this session? Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 NOTICE: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C._2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to the sender that you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you for helping to maintain privacy. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/341 - Release Date: 16/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/341 - Release Date: 16/05/2006 From jhumbert at purdue.edu Wed May 17 07:45:17 2006 From: jhumbert at purdue.edu (Joe Humbert) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] membership In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi! Sorry to bounce this to the whole list, but I mail in my dues well over a month ago and haven't heard anything. Can someone confirm my check was recieved. thankx. Joe Humbert Assistive Technology Specialist ACM SIGGRAPH at Purdue From ron.stewart at oregonstate.edu Wed May 17 08:27:14 2006 From: ron.stewart at oregonstate.edu (Stewart, Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] membership Message-ID: It was received, did you need a receipt? Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Joe Humbert Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:45 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] membership Hi! Sorry to bounce this to the whole list, but I mail in my dues well over a month ago and haven't heard anything. Can someone confirm my check was recieved. thankx. Joe Humbert Assistive Technology Specialist ACM SIGGRAPH at Purdue _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From gdietrich at htctu.net Wed May 17 09:21:14 2006 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] off-topic World Cup fever (was ATHEN session update at conference and survey) In-Reply-To: <001101c679be$b09d3e00$0a01a8c0@laptop> Message-ID: <003901c679cd$eb626ab0$5e821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Well, I'm not going to be so bold as to suggest that the U.S. could beat Holland or England, but I would like to see Bruce Arena and the boys make it into the quarterfinals. I honestly think we got a bit lucky last time, so I hope they can really advance on merit this time. Now I just need one of you "real" AT specialists to come help me program my VCR. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich Alternate Media Training Specialist / Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 408.996.6043 www.htctu.net -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of E.A. Draffan Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:32 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference and survey Ok als Engeland niet om te winnen moet het Holland zijn! Ok if England doesn't win it will have to be Holland! I am off to eat the last of my zoute drop (finished the CSUN/Dan jelly beans long ago!) as I work on the Athen survey for UK! Best Wishes E.A. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Andre Ryssemus Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 7:27 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference and survey Ga Nederland gaat sinaasappel, in het wereldkampioenschap!. GO HOLLAND !, GO ORANGE !, IN THE WORLD CUP. Got to love the fever as well. Andre Ryssemus SDCCD/ DSPS -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:14 AM To: ea@emptech.info; 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference and survey Whoa, EA, read your post and my first thought was, "Why would Manchester United be interested in assistive technology?"...I guess World Cup fever is catching up with me... ;-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich Alternate Media Training Specialist / Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 408.996.6043 www.htctu.net -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of E.A. Draffan Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:34 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference and survey E.A. was that woman with the "across the pond" accent at the back of the CSUN meeting!! Ron what do you think? Should I not get too excited and relax about it all - I have not done any sums for the cost of it all. I am trying to collect Daisy items from UK at the moment for the June workshops. See you soon Looks like Manchester Uni are still keen for us to collaborate on the survey and have a UK version - must anglicise some questions and get them back to you Terry for approval. Best Wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Assistive Technologist Mobile: 07976 289103 http://www.emptech.info/ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:02 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] ATHEN session update at conference Hello All: I've update the session list at this year's AHG conference, particularly flagging the sessions that are part of the ATHEN track. (Thank you Dan for catching that). You can view the update at: http://www.colorado.edu/ATconference/SessionList-2006.htm If I included anyone in the ATHEN track or excluded anyone mistakenly, let me know. Sean, I didn't include your session "Lab: Creating Accessible PDF Forms using Adobe Acrobat Professional" because I didn't have it on my list from CSUN. Let me know if I should add it. Gaeir, Ron - I had your e-text pre-conf as ATHEN sessions from my CSUN notes but I want to make sure -- is this supposed to perhaps be an AHEAD session? And from my notes from CSUN, I had listed "Centers of Excellence / Dolphin" - Ron S./ E.A. (I'm not sure who E.A. is). Should I be reserving a slot for this session? Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 NOTICE: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C._2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to the sender that you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you for helping to maintain privacy. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/341 - Release Date: 16/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/341 - Release Date: 16/05/2006 From Howard.Kramer at colorado.edu Wed May 17 12:41:24 2006 From: Howard.Kramer at colorado.edu (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] digest command Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20060517133945.0392eab0@buffmail.colorado.edu> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fgsmith at vcu.edu Wed May 17 13:01:42 2006 From: fgsmith at vcu.edu (Frances G Smith/AC/VCU) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Frances G Smith/AC/VCU is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 05/17/2006 and will not return until 05/22/2006. I will be out of the office from Wednesday, May 17 until Monday, May 22, 2006. From pratikp1 at lycos.com Wed May 17 13:01:58 2006 From: pratikp1 at lycos.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Slate.com starts "textcasting": podcasts of print content. Message-ID: <008501c679ec$c14c8ca0$5b2a0495@LENOVO1C5CE3C3> Colleagues, Please see the following post. This is an interesting method of delivering text content. Now Apple has a way to market to deaf and hard of hearing individuals. Pratik _____ From: Xeni Jardin Posted At: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 6:11 PM Posted To: Boing Boing Conversation: Slate.com starts "textcasting": podcasts of print content. Subject: Slate.com starts "textcasting": podcasts of print content. http://feeds.feedburner.com/boingboing/iBag?m=1409 Xeni Jardin: My friend and colleague Andy Bowers at Slate.com shares word that Slate has launched a service they call "textcasting," starting with their "Today's Papers" feature. A "textcast," Andy explains, is a podcast in which the main thing being delivered to your iPod is text rather than audio. You read the text on your iPod's screen. Snip: [T]he iPod is not currently configured as a text reader, so we've done our best to work around the device's limitations. (Here's hoping Apple will make its cash cow more text-friendly in future releases.) That said, I've been testing the TP textcast for several weeks now, and I find it very easy to use. Plus, I love that Today's Papers just shows up in my iPod automatically each day. Here's a little more detail on how the textcast works: The text is actually contained in a 15-minute audio file. (It's 15 minutes of silence, which is how we make the file so small.) Play the file as you would any other podcast, and then hit the iPod's center button two or three times until you reach the description field, which contains the full TP text. You can scroll through the text using the iPod's scroll wheel. Link Related... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at htctu.net Wed May 17 13:13:44 2006 From: skeegan at htctu.net (sean keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] digest command In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20060517133945.0392eab0@buffmail.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <003401c679ee$6648eb30$62821299@htctrnpc5> Here is information to change your settings (e.g., switch to/from digest format). To change your options, send an e-mail to: athen-request@athenpro.org To switch to the digest format, include in the body of the message the following: subscribe "password" digest For the "password" value, remove the quotes and make sure to include your password for the system. If you do not include a password, then the system will generate one for you. A password would have been sent when you were signed up for the system. To switch from digest to a non-digest format, simply change the word "digest" in the above command and you will be changed from the digest format to the non-digest format. Let me know if you have any problems! take care, Sean Sean Keegan Web Accessibility Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit, California Community Colleges -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:41 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] digest command Sean, What is the command for setting up digest format. I've tried sending "set digest mime" to athen-request@athenpro.org and a couple of other variations of the command but I must be doing something wrong. Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 NOTICE: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C._2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to the sender that you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you for helping to maintain privacy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmarotta at cpofnj.org Thu May 18 09:36:59 2006 From: mmarotta at cpofnj.org (Mike Marotta) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Invitation to present at ATIA 2007 References: <008501c679ec$c14c8ca0$5b2a0495@LENOVO1C5CE3C3> Message-ID: <046A73C180600A4CB8B1A49FE5AAEF15076AA5@w3kserver.cpnj.local> As a Strand Manager for the ATIA 2007 Conference, I would like to encourage you to submit a presentation proposal to ATIA for the 2007 conference. This is an excellent opportunity to share your expertise at the industry's leading event in educating and showcasing the latest advances in AT. The Assistive Technology Industry Association (ATIA) is seeking presentations from professionals who work in the field including (but not limited to) speech language pathologists, occupational therapists, clinicians, teachers, AT specialists, rehab-specialists, Assistive Technology teams, government personnel, and AT vendors. Presentations should focus on practical applications and uses of Assistive Technology. For the abstract submission form and more details on how to submit, go to http://atiaew.prod.web.sba.com/callpapers/CallLogin.cfm?conference_id=8 Presentations may be submitted through ATIA's online content management tool. Successful submissions will be confirmed immediately via e-mail. Submissions must be received by Friday, May 26, 2006. Thank you for your participation in the ATIA 2007 Conference. Sincerely, Mike Marotta, ATP Strand Manager - Post Secondary / Workplace Assistive Technology Specialist CP of New Jersey 609-392-4004 x 516 mmarotta@cpofnj.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3199 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pwhite3 at exchange.calstatela.edu Thu May 18 09:52:57 2006 From: pwhite3 at exchange.calstatela.edu (White, Phillip B.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] server/client bases Dragon Message-ID: <86F2555BA9B049448F4CF1C22D833F2512BA87EB@exchange.calstatela.edu> I'd like to find out if any of you have worked with placing Dragon or any other voice input solution on a server. I'm not familiar with how this system works, and would like to chat with someone who has this operational. 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Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Mike Marotta Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:37 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Invitation to present at ATIA 2007 As a Strand Manager for the ATIA 2007 Conference, I would like to encourage you to submit a presentation proposal to ATIA for the 2007 conference. This is an excellent opportunity to share your expertise at the industry's leading event in educating and showcasing the latest advances in AT. The Assistive Technology Industry Association (ATIA) is seeking presentations from professionals who work in the field including (but not limited to) speech language pathologists, occupational therapists, clinicians, teachers, AT specialists, rehab-specialists, Assistive Technology teams, government personnel, and AT vendors. Presentations should focus on practical applications and uses of Assistive Technology. For the abstract submission form and more details on how to submit, go to http://atiaew.prod.web.sba.com/callpapers/CallLogin.cfm?conference_id=8 Presentations may be submitted through ATIA's online content management tool. Successful submissions will be confirmed immediately via e-mail. Submissions must be received by Friday, May 26, 2006. Thank you for your participation in the ATIA 2007 Conference. Sincerely, Mike Marotta, ATP Strand Manager - Post Secondary / Workplace Assistive Technology Specialist CP of New Jersey 609-392-4004 x 516 mmarotta@cpofnj.org From jeano at uwm.edu Thu May 18 10:39:35 2006 From: jeano at uwm.edu (Jean Salzer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] server/client bases Dragon In-Reply-To: <86F2555BA9B049448F4CF1C22D833F2512BA87EB@exchange.calstatela.edu> References: <86F2555BA9B049448F4CF1C22D833F2512BA87EB@exchange.calstatela.edu> Message-ID: <446CB157.8060100@uwm.edu> I've been able to save the voice files on a server so an individual can use Dragon in more than one setting, but have not attempted the software itself due to licensing concerns. White, Phillip B. wrote: > I'd like to find out if any of you have worked with placing Dragon or > any other voice input solution on a server. > > I'm not familiar with how this system works, and would like to chat > with someone who has this operational. > > > > Phillip White > > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > > California State University Los Angeles > > 323-343-3138 > > pwhite3@calstatela.edu > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:53 AM To: 'athen@athenpro.org' Subject: [Athen] server/client bases Dragon I'd like to find out if any of you have worked with placing Dragon or any other voice input solution on a server. I'm not familiar with how this system works, and would like to chat with someone who has this operational. Phillip White Adaptive Technology Coordinator California State University Los Angeles 323-343-3138 pwhite3@calstatela.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at kckcc.edu Thu May 18 11:15:42 2006 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Invitation to present at ATIA 2007 Message-ID: I would love to go, but it always falls during our enrollment week or the first week of classes. My supervisor doesn't like us to be out of the office during that time. If I can get it worked out to attend sometime, you can bet I'll be there. I've heard really good things about it. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> ron.stewart@oregonstate.edu 5/18/2006 12:09 PM >>> Thanks Mike, I am sure the members that can get to Orlando in January will put some things in. Folks ATIA is fast becoming a good option to CSUN, I would really recommend anything that deals with transition from school to Postsecondary Ed and School to Work. In past years the attendees at the conference tend to be K-12 folks and Government folk, with a small number of higher ed. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Mike Marotta Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:37 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Invitation to present at ATIA 2007 As a Strand Manager for the ATIA 2007 Conference, I would like to encourage you to submit a presentation proposal to ATIA for the 2007 conference. This is an excellent opportunity to share your expertise at the industry's leading event in educating and showcasing the latest advances in AT. The Assistive Technology Industry Association (ATIA) is seeking presentations from professionals who work in the field including (but not limited to) speech language pathologists, occupational therapists, clinicians, teachers, AT specialists, rehab-specialists, Assistive Technology teams, government personnel, and AT vendors. Presentations should focus on practical applications and uses of Assistive Technology. For the abstract submission form and more details on how to submit, go to http://atiaew.prod.web.sba.com/callpapers/CallLogin.cfm?conference_id=8 Presentations may be submitted through ATIA's online content management tool. Successful submissions will be confirmed immediately via e-mail. Submissions must be received by Friday, May 26, 2006. Thank you for your participation in the ATIA 2007 Conference. Sincerely, Mike Marotta, ATP Strand Manager - Post Secondary / Workplace Assistive Technology Specialist CP of New Jersey 609-392-4004 x 516 mmarotta@cpofnj.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From edward at ngtvoice.com Thu May 18 16:14:19 2006 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] server/client bases Dragon In-Reply-To: <86F2555BA9B049448F4CF1C22D833F2512BA87EB@exchange.calstatela.edu> Message-ID: <006101c67ad0$cbd46b40$ee16183f@eros> There are a number of white papers available on "roaming profile" configuration of Dragon NaturallySpeaking and the NS Admin utility that is used to support some of its features. Please feel free to contact me care of my e-mail address: edward@ngtvoice.com and I'd be happy to send them along in Word document format. Edward S. Rosenthal, ATACP Graduate President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies, Inc. 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, Wa. 98036. EM: edward@ngtvoice.com WWW: www.ngtvoice.com PH: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 FX: 425-778-5547 This document was generated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking Medical version 8 .1 speech input technology and/or handwriting input on a Motion LE 1600 Tablet (please disregard any atypical formatting or remaining misrecognitions). -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of White, Phillip B. Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:53 AM To: 'athen@athenpro.org' Subject: [Athen] server/client bases Dragon I'd like to find out if any of you have worked with placing Dragon or any other voice input solution on a server. I'm not familiar with how this system works, and would like to chat with someone who has this operational. Phillip White Adaptive Technology Coordinator California State University Los Angeles 323-343-3138 pwhite3@calstatela.edu From gdietrich at htctu.net Fri May 19 09:40:29 2006 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Invitation to present at ATIA 2007 In-Reply-To: <046A73C180600A4CB8B1A49FE5AAEF15076AA5@w3kserver.cpnj.local> Message-ID: <001701c67b62$f0a82280$5e821299@htctu.fhda.edu> I've never been to ATIA. Could someone who has been before give me an idea of what sort of thing might be good to present on. And if you know me and can give really specific presentation suggestions, I'd appreciate it. I don't know why, but I always have the hardest time figuring out what to present on at conferences...it's the short time frame that gets me, I think... Thanks! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich Alternate Media Training Specialist / Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 408.996.6043 www.htctu.net -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Mike Marotta Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:37 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Invitation to present at ATIA 2007 As a Strand Manager for the ATIA 2007 Conference, I would like to encourage you to submit a presentation proposal to ATIA for the 2007 conference. This is an excellent opportunity to share your expertise at the industry's leading event in educating and showcasing the latest advances in AT. The Assistive Technology Industry Association (ATIA) is seeking presentations from professionals who work in the field including (but not limited to) speech language pathologists, occupational therapists, clinicians, teachers, AT specialists, rehab-specialists, Assistive Technology teams, government personnel, and AT vendors. Presentations should focus on practical applications and uses of Assistive Technology. For the abstract submission form and more details on how to submit, go to http://atiaew.prod.web.sba.com/callpapers/CallLogin.cfm?conference_id=8 Presentations may be submitted through ATIA's online content management tool. Successful submissions will be confirmed immediately via e-mail. Submissions must be received by Friday, May 26, 2006. Thank you for your participation in the ATIA 2007 Conference. Sincerely, Mike Marotta, ATP Strand Manager - Post Secondary / Workplace Assistive Technology Specialist CP of New Jersey 609-392-4004 x 516 mmarotta@cpofnj.org From ron.stewart at oregonstate.edu Fri May 19 11:01:55 2006 From: ron.stewart at oregonstate.edu (Stewart, Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Invitation to present at ATIA 2007 Message-ID: I think any of your nomal novice type sessions would be appropriate based on what I have seen the last two years. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Sent: Fri May 19 09:40:29 2006 Subject: Re: [Athen] Invitation to present at ATIA 2007 I've never been to ATIA. Could someone who has been before give me an idea of what sort of thing might be good to present on. And if you know me and can give really specific presentation suggestions, I'd appreciate it. I don't know why, but I always have the hardest time figuring out what to present on at conferences...it's the short time frame that gets me, I think... Thanks! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich Alternate Media Training Specialist / Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 408.996.6043 www.htctu.net -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Mike Marotta Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:37 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Invitation to present at ATIA 2007 As a Strand Manager for the ATIA 2007 Conference, I would like to encourage you to submit a presentation proposal to ATIA for the 2007 conference. This is an excellent opportunity to share your expertise at the industry's leading event in educating and showcasing the latest advances in AT. The Assistive Technology Industry Association (ATIA) is seeking presentations from professionals who work in the field including (but not limited to) speech language pathologists, occupational therapists, clinicians, teachers, AT specialists, rehab-specialists, Assistive Technology teams, government personnel, and AT vendors. Presentations should focus on practical applications and uses of Assistive Technology. For the abstract submission form and more details on how to submit, go to http://atiaew.prod.web.sba.com/callpapers/CallLogin.cfm?conference_id=8 Presentations may be submitted through ATIA's online content management tool. Successful submissions will be confirmed immediately via e-mail. Submissions must be received by Friday, May 26, 2006. Thank you for your participation in the ATIA 2007 Conference. Sincerely, Mike Marotta, ATP Strand Manager - Post Secondary / Workplace Assistive Technology Specialist CP of New Jersey 609-392-4004 x 516 mmarotta@cpofnj.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sherylb at u.washington.edu Fri May 19 11:32:48 2006 From: sherylb at u.washington.edu (Sheryl Burgstahler) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Invitation to present at ATIA 2007 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I gave a talk that was on policy/practice in making distance learning programs accesible - it was well received. Sheryl ------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, DO-IT & Accessible Technology Services and Outreach Computing & Communications University of Washington, Box 355670 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@u.washington.edu On Fri, 19 May 2006, Stewart, Ron wrote: > I think any of your nomal novice type sessions would be appropriate based on what I have seen the last two years. > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Sent: Fri May 19 09:40:29 2006 > Subject: Re: [Athen] Invitation to present at ATIA 2007 > > I've never been to ATIA. Could someone who has been before give me an idea > of what sort of thing might be good to present on. > > And if you know me and can give really specific presentation suggestions, > I'd appreciate it. I don't know why, but I always have the hardest time > figuring out what to present on at conferences...it's the short time frame > that gets me, I think... > > Thanks! > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > Alternate Media Training Specialist / Instructor > High Tech Center Training Unit > De Anza College, Cupertino, CA > 408.996.6043 > www.htctu.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Marotta > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:37 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Invitation to present at ATIA 2007 > > As a Strand Manager for the ATIA 2007 Conference, I would like to encourage > you to submit a presentation proposal to ATIA for the 2007 conference. This > is an excellent opportunity to share your expertise at the industry's > leading event in educating and showcasing the latest advances in AT. > > The Assistive Technology Industry Association (ATIA) is seeking > presentations from professionals who work in the field including (but not > limited to) speech language pathologists, occupational therapists, > clinicians, teachers, AT specialists, rehab-specialists, Assistive > Technology teams, government personnel, and AT vendors. Presentations should > focus on practical applications and uses of Assistive Technology. > > For the abstract submission form and more details on how to submit, go to > http://atiaew.prod.web.sba.com/callpapers/CallLogin.cfm?conference_id=8 > > Presentations may be submitted through ATIA's online content management > tool. Successful submissions will be confirmed immediately via e-mail. > > Submissions must be received by Friday, May 26, 2006. > > Thank you for your participation in the ATIA 2007 Conference. > > Sincerely, > > Mike Marotta, ATP > Strand Manager - Post Secondary / Workplace > > Assistive Technology Specialist > CP of New Jersey > 609-392-4004 x 516 > mmarotta@cpofnj.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From LHARDMAN at georgianc.on.ca Sun May 21 13:03:32 2006 From: LHARDMAN at georgianc.on.ca (Linda Hardman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Invitation to present at ATIA 2007 (Vacation Alert Auto Response) Message-ID: I am on vacation and will be responding to email messages when I return to the office on Monday, June 12. If you require more immediate assistance you may contact Julie Allen at jallen@georgianc.on.ca or (519) 376-0840 ext 2099. Linda Hardman Testing and Adaptive Technology Services Owen Sound Campus 1450 8th Street East Owen Sound ON N4K 5R4 Phone: (519) 376-0840 ext. 2047 Fax: (519) 372-3216 lhardman@georgianc.on.ca www.georgianc.on.ca >>> athen 05/19/06 14:32 >>> I gave a talk that was on policy/practice in making distance learning programs accesible - it was well received. Sheryl ------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, DO-IT & Accessible Technology Services and Outreach Computing & Communications University of Washington, Box 355670 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@u.washington.edu On Fri, 19 May 2006, Stewart, Ron wrote: > I think any of your nomal novice type sessions would be appropriate based on what I have seen the last two years. > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Sent: Fri May 19 09:40:29 2006 > Subject: Re: [Athen] Invitation to present at ATIA 2007 > > I've never been to ATIA. Could someone who has been before give me an idea > of what sort of thing might be good to present on. > > And if you know me and can give really specific presentation suggestions, > I'd appreciate it. I don't know why, but I always have the hardest time > figuring out what to present on at conferences...it's the short time frame > that gets me, I think... > > Thanks! > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > Alternate Media Training Specialist / Instructor > High Tech Center Training Unit > De Anza College, Cupertino, CA > 408.996.6043 > www.htctu.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Marotta > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:37 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Invitation to present at ATIA 2007 > > As a Strand Manager for the ATIA 2007 Conference, I would like to encourage > you to submit a presentation proposal to ATIA for the 2007 conference. This > is an excellent opportunity to share your expertise at the industry's > leading event in educating and showcasing the latest advances in AT. > > The Assistive Technology Industry Association (ATIA) is seeking > presentations from professionals who work in the field including (but not > limited to) speech language pathologists, occupational therapists, > clinicians, teachers, AT specialists, rehab-specialists, Assistive > Technology teams, government personnel, and AT vendors. Presentations should > focus on practical applications and uses of Assistive Technology. > > For the abstract submission form and more details on how to submit, go to > http://atiaew.prod.web.sba.com/callpapers/CallLogin.cfm?conference_id=8 > > Presentations may be submitted through ATIA's online content management > tool. Successful submissions will be confirmed immediately via e-mail. > > Submissions must be received by Friday, May 26, 2006. > > Thank you for your participation in the ATIA 2007 Conference. > > Sincerely, > > Mike Marotta, ATP > Strand Manager - Post Secondary / Workplace > > Assistive Technology Specialist > CP of New Jersey > 609-392-4004 x 516 > mmarotta@cpofnj.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jbailey at uoregon.edu Mon May 22 10:07:20 2006 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] authorization conflict between JFW and WYNN In-Reply-To: <0d1b01c66b5b$9ab35dc0$6500a8c0@LENOVO1C5CE3C3> References: <0d1b01c66b5b$9ab35dc0$6500a8c0@LENOVO1C5CE3C3> Message-ID: I have discovered what may be a conflict between WYNN 4.0 and JFW 7.0 authorization schemes. I tried to install a single user version of WYNN 4.0 on a machine that has JFW 7.0 on it. The JFW get its authorization from a server. In every other respect this JFW is handled as a local set-up, it just gets authorization from a server. I could not successfully "activate" the WYNN set-up. When one of the WYNN error messages mentioned the JFW authorization server by name, I became highly suspicious. Three separate calls to FS help got the same response, "the two authorizations schemes will ignore each other." Finally, I commented out the JFW authorization by changing the name of the environmental variable, and (you know what's coming) WYNN started up just fine. Of course now JFW starts in the demo mode not being able to access the authorization. Has anyone else encountered and resolved this issue? - Thanks, James James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@darkwing.uoregon.edu From Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu Tue May 23 07:30:31 2006 From: Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu (Baker, Nick) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] authorization conflict between JFW and WYNN Message-ID: I have many machines with both JAWS and WYNN 4.0 and have never had a problem. Nick Nick Baker Assistive Technology Coordinator nick.baker@umontana.edu 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) 406-243-2663 (Voice only) Disability Services for Students The University of Montana EL 154 32 Campus Drive Missoula, MT 59812 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:07 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] authorization conflict between JFW and WYNN I have discovered what may be a conflict between WYNN 4.0 and JFW 7.0 authorization schemes. I tried to install a single user version of WYNN 4.0 on a machine that has JFW 7.0 on it. The JFW get its authorization from a server. In every other respect this JFW is handled as a local set-up, it just gets authorization from a server. I could not successfully "activate" the WYNN set-up. When one of the WYNN error messages mentioned the JFW authorization server by name, I became highly suspicious. Three separate calls to FS help got the same response, "the two authorizations schemes will ignore each other." Finally, I commented out the JFW authorization by changing the name of the environmental variable, and (you know what's coming) WYNN started up just fine. Of course now JFW starts in the demo mode not being able to access the authorization. Has anyone else encountered and resolved this issue? - Thanks, James James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@darkwing.uoregon.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jbailey at uoregon.edu Tue May 23 12:19:11 2006 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] authorization conflict between JFW and WYNN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, Nick. Can you briefly decribe how the two programs get authorized? There seems to be mutiple ways to authorize these two products and my suspicion is that the two (very different) schemes are in conflict. So, were both WYNN and JFW locally authorized or do they both look to a server or is it a combo? Again, thanks for helping me sort this out. James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@darkwing.uoregon.edu On Tue, 23 May 2006, Baker, Nick wrote: > I have many machines with both JAWS and WYNN 4.0 and have never had a > problem. > Nick > > Nick Baker > Assistive Technology Coordinator > nick.baker@umontana.edu > 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) > 406-243-2663 (Voice only) > > Disability Services for Students > The University of Montana > EL 154 > 32 Campus Drive > Missoula, MT 59812 > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of James Bailey > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:07 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] authorization conflict between JFW and WYNN > > I have discovered what may be a conflict between WYNN 4.0 and JFW 7.0 > authorization schemes. I tried to install a single user version of WYNN > 4.0 on a machine that has JFW 7.0 on it. The JFW get its authorization > from a server. In every other respect this JFW is handled as a local > set-up, it just gets authorization from a server. > > I could not successfully "activate" the WYNN set-up. When one of the > WYNN > error messages mentioned the JFW authorization server by name, I became > highly suspicious. Three separate calls to FS help got the same > response, > "the two authorizations schemes will ignore each other." > > Finally, I commented out the JFW authorization by changing the name of > the > environmental variable, and (you know what's coming) WYNN started up > just > fine. Of course now JFW starts in the demo mode not being able to > access > the authorization. > > Has anyone else encountered and resolved this issue? > > - Thanks, James > > James Bailey > Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon > 1299 University of Oregon > Eugene, OR 97403-1299 > Office: 541-346-1076 > jbailey@darkwing.uoregon.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu Tue May 23 13:15:56 2006 From: Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu (Baker, Nick) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] authorization conflict between JFW and WYNN Message-ID: James-- We have a multiple-seat site license for WYNN, which we authorize locally via a serial number. For our multiple-seat JAWS license, we have a block of authorization codes, which we enter into the FS authorization web site for each machine. Nick Baker Assistive Technology Coordinator nick.baker@umontana.edu 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) 406-243-2663 (Voice only) Disability Services for Students The University of Montana EL 154 32 Campus Drive Missoula, MT 59812 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:19 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] authorization conflict between JFW and WYNN Thanks, Nick. Can you briefly decribe how the two programs get authorized? There seems to be mutiple ways to authorize these two products and my suspicion is that the two (very different) schemes are in conflict. So, were both WYNN and JFW locally authorized or do they both look to a server or is it a combo? Again, thanks for helping me sort this out. James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@darkwing.uoregon.edu On Tue, 23 May 2006, Baker, Nick wrote: > I have many machines with both JAWS and WYNN 4.0 and have never had a > problem. > Nick > > Nick Baker > Assistive Technology Coordinator > nick.baker@umontana.edu > 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) > 406-243-2663 (Voice only) > > Disability Services for Students > The University of Montana > EL 154 > 32 Campus Drive > Missoula, MT 59812 > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of James Bailey > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:07 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] authorization conflict between JFW and WYNN > > I have discovered what may be a conflict between WYNN 4.0 and JFW 7.0 > authorization schemes. I tried to install a single user version of WYNN > 4.0 on a machine that has JFW 7.0 on it. The JFW get its authorization > from a server. In every other respect this JFW is handled as a local > set-up, it just gets authorization from a server. > > I could not successfully "activate" the WYNN set-up. When one of the > WYNN > error messages mentioned the JFW authorization server by name, I became > highly suspicious. Three separate calls to FS help got the same > response, > "the two authorizations schemes will ignore each other." > > Finally, I commented out the JFW authorization by changing the name of > the > environmental variable, and (you know what's coming) WYNN started up > just > fine. Of course now JFW starts in the demo mode not being able to > access > the authorization. > > Has anyone else encountered and resolved this issue? > > - Thanks, James > > James Bailey > Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon > 1299 University of Oregon > Eugene, OR 97403-1299 > Office: 541-346-1076 > jbailey@darkwing.uoregon.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu Thu May 25 11:49:25 2006 From: gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu (Gerry Nies) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote captioning Message-ID: I would be interested in communicating with people who are doing remote captioning. I am specifically wanting to hear from people who have the captionists and equipment in your office or on your campus. or If you have looked at doing this and decided not to do it but are using off campus resources why did you go that way. Thanks Gerry Nies Information Technology Tech University of North Dakota Disability Support Services McCannel Hall Room 190 2891 2nd Avenue North Stop 9040 Grand Forks, ND 58202-9040 (701)777-3827 (701)777-4170 FAX gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu STOP! This message is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are NOT the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. 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OK -- better than that -- talk up the ATHEN track of programs and make mention of the networking and social opportunities. Networking can be facilitated by marking our nametags with something (a big red 'A' or a grecian column or some such). We all know that one night of the conference we will be have an ATHEN night out for dinner and drinks. ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of Howard Kramer Sent: Thu 5/25/2006 3:14 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form Hello All: Here is the text I was planning to put on the Accessing Higher Ground registration form explaining ATHEN. It comes directly from the Web site. Access Technologists Higher Education Network (ATHEN) ATHEN is a professional association and network for Access Technologists in Higher Education. The purpose of ATHEN is to collect and disseminate best practices in access technology in the higher education environment as well as present a collective voice for the professional practice of access technology in higher education. For more information on ATHEN membership and its benefits, see the web site at: www.athenpro.org Also, I only posted the option for Professional Membership due to space limitations. Should the other memberships be mentioned or will folks probably pick that up by going to the ATHEN Pro Web site. Any thought on a specific blurb on the Web site indicating the benefits of membership? Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 NOTICE: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C._2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to the sender that you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you for helping to maintain privacy. From pratikp1 at lycos.com Fri May 26 01:54:44 2006 From: pratikp1 at lycos.com (Pratik patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <016401c680a2$089d1f50$5b2a0495@LENOVO1C5CE3C3> Dan, I don't think we need to mention the handsome factor and the intelligence factor at all. We can just post your picture with an appropriate alt tag and people will understand. After all, subliminal advertisements work much better than explicit ones. Howard, perhaps you can post the membership link (http://athenpro.org/node/13) along with the professional membership information as as a compromise. This saves you space and allows people to go directly to the membership information. You can say something like: "For more information on ATHEN membership levels and to obtain an application, visit http://athenpro.org/node/13." Of course, you can change that wording to fit the context. Regards, Pratik Pratik Patel Director, CUNY Assistive technology Services (CATS) The City University of New York pratikp1@lycos.com -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:26 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; athen@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form How about something explaining how all of the members are good looking and smart as whips! OK -- better than that -- talk up the ATHEN track of programs and make mention of the networking and social opportunities. Networking can be facilitated by marking our nametags with something (a big red 'A' or a grecian column or some such). We all know that one night of the conference we will be have an ATHEN night out for dinner and drinks. ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of Howard Kramer Sent: Thu 5/25/2006 3:14 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form Hello All: Here is the text I was planning to put on the Accessing Higher Ground registration form explaining ATHEN. It comes directly from the Web site. Access Technologists Higher Education Network (ATHEN) ATHEN is a professional association and network for Access Technologists in Higher Education. The purpose of ATHEN is to collect and disseminate best practices in access technology in the higher education environment as well as present a collective voice for the professional practice of access technology in higher education. For more information on ATHEN membership and its benefits, see the web site at: www.athenpro.org Also, I only posted the option for Professional Membership due to space limitations. Should the other memberships be mentioned or will folks probably pick that up by going to the ATHEN Pro Web site. Any thought on a specific blurb on the Web site indicating the benefits of membership? Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 NOTICE: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C._2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to the sender that you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you for helping to maintain privacy. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From djbrky at bu.edu Fri May 26 07:02:59 2006 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form Message-ID: Are you mocking me? .... is he mocking me? ... the guy from New York is mocking me I think .... OK -- but only if I get to write the copy for the alt-tag ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Pratik patel >Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:55 AM >To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' >Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form > >Dan, I don't think we need to mention the handsome factor and the >intelligence factor at all. We can just post your picture with an >appropriate alt tag and people will understand. After all, subliminal >advertisements work much better than explicit ones. > >Howard, perhaps you can post the membership link >(http://athenpro.org/node/13) along with the professional membership >information as as a compromise. This saves you space and allows people to >go directly to the membership information. You can say something like: >"For >more information on ATHEN membership levels and to obtain an application, >visit http://athenpro.org/node/13." Of course, you can change that wording >to fit the context. > >Regards, > >Pratik > >Pratik Patel >Director, CUNY Assistive technology Services (CATS) >The City University of New York >pratikp1@lycos.com > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J >Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:26 PM >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; athen@athenpro.org >Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form > >How about something explaining how all of the members are good looking and >smart as whips! > >OK -- better than that -- talk up the ATHEN track of programs and make >mention of the networking and social opportunities. Networking can be >facilitated by marking our nametags with something (a big red 'A' or a >grecian column or some such). We all know that one night of the conference >we will be have an ATHEN night out for dinner and drinks. > > >========================= >Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director >Boston University Office of Disability Services >19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor >Boston, MA 02215 > >(617) 353-3658 (office) >(617) 353-9646 (fax) >djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) >www.bu.edu/disability > >________________________________ > >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of Howard Kramer >Sent: Thu 5/25/2006 3:14 PM >To: athen@athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form > > >Hello All: > >Here is the text I was planning to put on the Accessing Higher Ground >registration form explaining ATHEN. It comes directly from the Web site. > >Access Technologists Higher Education Network (ATHEN) >ATHEN is a professional association and network for Access Technologists in >Higher Education. The purpose of ATHEN is to collect and disseminate best >practices in access technology in the higher education environment as well >as present a collective voice for the professional practice of access >technology in higher education. For more information on ATHEN membership >and >its benefits, see the web site at: www.athenpro.org > > Also, I only posted the option for Professional >Membership due to space limitations. Should the other memberships be >mentioned or will folks probably pick that up by going to the ATHEN Pro Web >site. Any thought on a specific blurb on the Web site indicating the >benefits of membership? > >Thanks, >Howard > > > >Howard Kramer >Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator >AT Conference Coordinator >Disability Services >CU-Boulder, 107 UCB >Boulder, Co 80309 >303-492-8672 > > >NOTICE: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic >Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C._2510-2521, is confidential and may be >privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any >retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is >prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to the >sender that you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank >you for helping to maintain privacy. > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Howard.Kramer at colorado.edu Fri May 26 07:04:57 2006 From: Howard.Kramer at colorado.edu (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form In-Reply-To: <016401c680a2$089d1f50$5b2a0495@LENOVO1C5CE3C3> References: <016401c680a2$089d1f50$5b2a0495@LENOVO1C5CE3C3> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20060526080351.02ed0370@buffmail.colorado.edu> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From akander1 at wisc.edu Fri May 26 06:02:03 2006 From: akander1 at wisc.edu (Alice Anderson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about links - underlining In-Reply-To: References: <6.1.2.0.2.20060525131326.05dd65b0@buffmail.colorado.edu> Message-ID: All, What are your thoughts about 'links' on this page...we're having an ongoing discussion/debate in my world about red/green colorblind, and using red as links without underlining. At one point, I received an email from a color blind individual saying 'unless you underline, I won't be able to see them'.... all comments and thoughts - to the list, or me individually, appreciated, thanks, alice On May 25, 2006, at 8:25 PM, Berkowitz, Daniel J wrote: > How about something explaining how all of the members are good > looking and smart as whips! > > OK -- better than that -- talk up the ATHEN track of programs and > make mention of the networking and social opportunities. Networking > can be facilitated by marking our nametags with something (a big > red 'A' or a grecian column or some such). We all know that one > night of the conference we will be have an ATHEN night out for > dinner and drinks. > > > ========================= > Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director > Boston University Office of Disability Services > 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor > Boston, MA 02215 > > (617) 353-3658 (office) > (617) 353-9646 (fax) > djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) > www.bu.edu/disability > > ________________________________ > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of Howard Kramer > Sent: Thu 5/25/2006 3:14 PM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form > > > Hello All: > > Here is the text I was planning to put on the Accessing Higher > Ground registration form explaining ATHEN. It comes directly from > the Web site. > > Access Technologists Higher Education Network (ATHEN) > ATHEN is a professional association and network for Access > Technologists in Higher Education. The purpose of ATHEN is to > collect and disseminate best practices in access technology in the > higher education environment as well as present a collective voice > for the professional practice of access technology in higher > education. For more information on ATHEN membership and its > benefits, see the web site at: www.athenpro.org > > Also, I only posted the option for > Professional Membership due to space limitations. Should the other > memberships be mentioned or will folks probably pick that up by > going to the ATHEN Pro Web site. Any thought on a specific blurb on > the Web site indicating the benefits of membership? > > Thanks, > Howard > > > > Howard Kramer > Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator > AT Conference Coordinator > Disability Services > CU-Boulder, 107 UCB > Boulder, Co 80309 > 303-492-8672 > > > NOTICE: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the > Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C._2510-2521, is > confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, please be aware that any retention, dissemination, > distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If > you are not the intended recipient, please reply to the sender that > you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you > for helping to maintain privacy. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Alice Anderson Technology Accessibility Program (TAP) Division of Information Technology (DoIT) University of Wisconsin-Madison 1210 West Dayton Street (3324) Madison, WI 53705 http://www.doit.wisc.edu/accessibility/ Telephone: 608.262.2129 Fax: 608.265.6453 ----------------- "Believe there is a great power silently working all things for good, behave yourself and never mind the rest." ~~Beatrix Potter~~ From djbrky at bu.edu Fri May 26 09:34:43 2006 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about links - underlining Message-ID: For the formal, technical answer I will defer to folks such as Sean Keegan - but from the perspective of someone who works with B/LV and has done some web design work - the simple answer is that there are numerous ways to differentiate text-links form the surrounding plain-text. The standard underlined blue that changes to dull red is the default in IE. When coding websites, developers can choose what colors they want the links to be but those choices are usually overridden by the browser settings. In designing sites it is also possible to differentiate the links in some other manner - by bolding them or changing the font. If it is the ATHEN website you are referring to, the mouseover feature highlights and underlines links on the page Optional browsers, such as Firefox and Opera, have accessibility options that allow the end-user to choose how links will be displayed and handled. They can be personalized. . ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Alice Anderson >Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:02 AM >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >Subject: [Athen] question about links - underlining > >All, >What are your thoughts about 'links' on this page...we're having an >ongoing discussion/debate in my world about >red/green colorblind, and using red as links without underlining. At >one point, I received an email from a color blind >individual saying 'unless you underline, I won't be able to see >them'.... > >all comments and thoughts - to the list, or me individually, >appreciated, >thanks, >alice > >On May 25, 2006, at 8:25 PM, Berkowitz, Daniel J wrote: > >> How about something explaining how all of the members are good >> looking and smart as whips! >> >> OK -- better than that -- talk up the ATHEN track of programs and >> make mention of the networking and social opportunities. Networking >> can be facilitated by marking our nametags with something (a big >> red 'A' or a grecian column or some such). We all know that one >> night of the conference we will be have an ATHEN night out for >> dinner and drinks. >> >> >> ========================= >> Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director >> Boston University Office of Disability Services >> 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor >> Boston, MA 02215 >> >> (617) 353-3658 (office) >> (617) 353-9646 (fax) >> djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) >> www.bu.edu/disability >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of Howard Kramer >> Sent: Thu 5/25/2006 3:14 PM >> To: athen@athenpro.org >> Subject: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form >> >> >> Hello All: >> >> Here is the text I was planning to put on the Accessing Higher >> Ground registration form explaining ATHEN. It comes directly from >> the Web site. >> >> Access Technologists Higher Education Network (ATHEN) >> ATHEN is a professional association and network for Access >> Technologists in Higher Education. The purpose of ATHEN is to >> collect and disseminate best practices in access technology in the >> higher education environment as well as present a collective voice >> for the professional practice of access technology in higher >> education. For more information on ATHEN membership and its >> benefits, see the web site at: www.athenpro.org >> >> Also, I only posted the option for >> Professional Membership due to space limitations. Should the other >> memberships be mentioned or will folks probably pick that up by >> going to the ATHEN Pro Web site. Any thought on a specific blurb on >> the Web site indicating the benefits of membership? >> >> Thanks, >> Howard >> >> >> >> Howard Kramer >> Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator >> AT Conference Coordinator >> Disability Services >> CU-Boulder, 107 UCB >> Boulder, Co 80309 >> 303-492-8672 >> >> >> NOTICE: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the >> Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C._2510-2521, is >> confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended >> recipient, please be aware that any retention, dissemination, >> distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If >> you are not the intended recipient, please reply to the sender that >> you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you >> for helping to maintain privacy. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > Alice Anderson >Technology Accessibility Program (TAP) >Division of Information Technology (DoIT) > University of Wisconsin-Madison > 1210 West Dayton Street (3324) > Madison, WI 53705 >http://www.doit.wisc.edu/accessibility/ > Telephone: 608.262.2129 > Fax: 608.265.6453 > ----------------- >"Believe there is a great power >silently working all things for good, >behave yourself and never mind the rest." > ~~Beatrix Potter~~ > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From danc at u.washington.edu Fri May 26 10:29:18 2006 From: danc at u.washington.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about links - underlining In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 26 May 2006, Berkowitz, Daniel J wrote: > Optional browsers, such as Firefox and Opera, have accessibility options > that allow the end-user to choose how links will be displayed and > handled. They can be personalized. Though it's possible to override styles, the overwhelming majority of web users have no idea that they can do this. They use their browsers with "out of the box" settings. I think links should *always* be underlined, and should be a different color than the rest of the content. -*- Dan Comden danc@u.washington.edu Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ University of Washington From skeegan at htctu.net Fri May 26 11:45:21 2006 From: skeegan at htctu.net (skeegan@htctu.net) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about links - underlining In-Reply-To: References: <6.1.2.0.2.20060525131326.05dd65b0@buffmail.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <1148669121.44774cc1d20e1@alexander.swishmail.com> Hi Alice, > What are your thoughts about 'links' on this page... I would suggest that your hyperlinks remained underlined and non-hyperlinked text should *not* be underlined. One of the Web standards of Section 508, 1194.22 (c) says: "Web pages shall be designed so that all information conveyed with color is also available without color, for example from context or markup." http://www.access-board.gov/sec508/guide/1194.22.htm#(c) and the W3C has a similar sounding checkpoint that reads: "Ensure that all information conveyed with color is also available without color, for example from context or markup." - WCAG Checkpoint 2.1 http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10/full-checklist.html While it may "look cool" from a design standpoint to just have color represent the hyperlink on a Web page, this is both an accessibility and usability issue. Not all users (e.g., low-vision, color-blind, etc.) may be able to distinguish between the hyperlinked text color and non-hyperlinked text color. The simplest and most consistent approach to addressing this issue is to maintain the underline for the hyperlinked text. Additionally, at this point in the existence of the Web, most users are conditioned to clicking on underlined text regardless of color (which is why I recommend not underlining non-hyperlinked text). Now, if the designer wishes to make the hyperlink "look" different when the user clicks on the text, hovers, or to show a visited link, then that is fine. Many websites designers code the page so that the underline is removed when the hyperlinked text receives focus (either from hovering with the mouse or from tabbing to the link). Not a problem to do that and is very simple with CSS. The accessibility violation is when you use color alone to represent information - and the existence of text that is also a hyperlink is a vital piece of information when navigating a Web page. Hope this helps, Sean Quoting Alice Anderson : > All, > What are your thoughts about 'links' on this page...we're having an > ongoing discussion/debate in my world about > red/green colorblind, and using red as links without underlining. At > one point, I received an email from a color blind > individual saying 'unless you underline, I won't be able to see > them'.... > > all comments and thoughts - to the list, or me individually, > appreciated, > thanks, > alice > > On May 25, 2006, at 8:25 PM, Berkowitz, Daniel J wrote: > > > How about something explaining how all of the members are good > > looking and smart as whips! > > > > OK -- better than that -- talk up the ATHEN track of programs and > > make mention of the networking and social opportunities. Networking > > can be facilitated by marking our nametags with something (a big > > red 'A' or a grecian column or some such). We all know that one > > night of the conference we will be have an ATHEN night out for > > dinner and drinks. > > > > > > ========================= > > Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director > > Boston University Office of Disability Services > > 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor > > Boston, MA 02215 > > > > (617) 353-3658 (office) > > (617) 353-9646 (fax) > > djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) > > www.bu.edu/disability > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of Howard Kramer > > Sent: Thu 5/25/2006 3:14 PM > > To: athen@athenpro.org > > Subject: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form > > > > > > Hello All: > > > > Here is the text I was planning to put on the Accessing Higher > > Ground registration form explaining ATHEN. It comes directly from > > the Web site. > > > > Access Technologists Higher Education Network (ATHEN) > > ATHEN is a professional association and network for Access > > Technologists in Higher Education. The purpose of ATHEN is to > > collect and disseminate best practices in access technology in the > > higher education environment as well as present a collective voice > > for the professional practice of access technology in higher > > education. For more information on ATHEN membership and its > > benefits, see the web site at: www.athenpro.org > > > > Also, I only posted the option for > > Professional Membership due to space limitations. Should the other > > memberships be mentioned or will folks probably pick that up by > > going to the ATHEN Pro Web site. Any thought on a specific blurb on > > the Web site indicating the benefits of membership? > > > > Thanks, > > Howard > > > > > > > > Howard Kramer > > Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator > > AT Conference Coordinator > > Disability Services > > CU-Boulder, 107 UCB > > Boulder, Co 80309 > > 303-492-8672 > > > > > > NOTICE: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the > > Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C._2510-2521, is > > confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended > > recipient, please be aware that any retention, dissemination, > > distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If > > you are not the intended recipient, please reply to the sender that > > you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you > > for helping to maintain privacy. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > Alice Anderson > Technology Accessibility Program (TAP) > Division of Information Technology (DoIT) > University of Wisconsin-Madison > 1210 West Dayton Street (3324) > Madison, WI 53705 > http://www.doit.wisc.edu/accessibility/ > Telephone: 608.262.2129 > Fax: 608.265.6453 > ----------------- > "Believe there is a great power > silently working all things for good, > behave yourself and never mind the rest." > ~~Beatrix Potter~~ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From stonge at stcc.edu Fri May 26 11:35:32 2006 From: stonge at stcc.edu (Scott StOnge) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about links - underlining Message-ID: Hello, I've found that using the a:hover pseudo-class for CSS works great for providing simple roll-over effects to text links and minimizes the need for color concerns. I just start off with underlined links (changing colors according to current design) and when a user mouses over the link the underline dissappears. Someone listening to the page would never know the difference. Here's a little CSS code from my site's stylesheet: A:hover { font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: #990000; text-decoration: none; } Hope this helps, Scott SaintOnge Webmaster National Center for Telecommunications Technologies - a division of Springfield Technical Community College http://www.nctt.org (413)755-6553 >>> danc@u.washington.edu 05/26/06 13:30 PM >>> On Fri, 26 May 2006, Berkowitz, Daniel J wrote: > Optional browsers, such as Firefox and Opera, have accessibility options > that allow the end-user to choose how links will be displayed and > handled. They can be personalized. Though it's possible to override styles, the overwhelming majority of web users have no idea that they can do this. They use their browsers with "out of the box" settings. I think links should *always* be underlined, and should be a different color than the rest of the content. -*- Dan Comden danc@u.washington.edu Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ University of Washington _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jhumbert at purdue.edu Fri May 26 11:56:09 2006 From: jhumbert at purdue.edu (Joe Humbert) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about links - underlining In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi! Does the hover work with keyboard events? i.e. tab to a link. Because most low vision and blind users I have come across do really care about the colors because they use jaws to find the links on the page. which may make me asking this question a mood point, but so be it. thankx. Joe Humbert Assistive Technology Specialist ACM SIGGRAPH at Purdue -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org]On Behalf Of Scott StOnge Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:36 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] question about links - underlining Hello, I've found that using the a:hover pseudo-class for CSS works great for providing simple roll-over effects to text links and minimizes the need for color concerns. I just start off with underlined links (changing colors according to current design) and when a user mouses over the link the underline dissappears. Someone listening to the page would never know the difference. Here's a little CSS code from my site's stylesheet: A:hover { font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: #990000; text-decoration: none; } Hope this helps, Scott SaintOnge Webmaster National Center for Telecommunications Technologies - a division of Springfield Technical Community College http://www.nctt.org (413)755-6553 From stonge at stcc.edu Fri May 26 12:13:56 2006 From: stonge at stcc.edu (Scott StOnge) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about links - underlining Message-ID: Good question, Joe. I just tried tabbing through my home page again and the links showed the ACTIVE state (instead of HOVER). For an auditory browser, because it is a text link, the default notification for links in that software would apply. Some will say "link" before reading the hypertext, etc. I have not tried, but there may be a way with CSS to specify an auditory event for each link state. Scott SaintOnge Webmaster National Center for Telecommunications Technologies - a division of Springfield Technical Community College http://www.nctt.org (413)755-6553 >>> jhumbert@purdue.edu 05/26/06 14:57 PM >>> Hi! Does the hover work with keyboard events? i.e. tab to a link. Because most low vision and blind users I have come across do really care about the colors because they use jaws to find the links on the page. which may make me asking this question a mood point, but so be it. thankx. Joe Humbert Assistive Technology Specialist ACM SIGGRAPH at Purdue -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org]On Behalf Of Scott StOnge Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:36 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] question about links - underlining Hello, I've found that using the a:hover pseudo-class for CSS works great for providing simple roll-over effects to text links and minimizes the need for color concerns. I just start off with underlined links (changing colors according to current design) and when a user mouses over the link the underline dissappears. Someone listening to the page would never know the difference. Here's a little CSS code from my site's stylesheet: A:hover { font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: #990000; text-decoration: none; } Hope this helps, Scott SaintOnge Webmaster National Center for Telecommunications Technologies - a division of Springfield Technical Community College http://www.nctt.org (413)755-6553 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From skeegan at htctu.net Fri May 26 13:06:14 2006 From: skeegan at htctu.net (skeegan@htctu.net) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about links - underlining In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1148673974.44775fb6dd852@alexander.swishmail.com> > Does the hover work with keyboard events? i.e. tab to a link. There is a way to do this with the ":focus" pseudo-class (techie details here - http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/selector.html#dynamic-pseudo-classes). For IE, however, you will need to use the ":active" pseudo-class. Here is some sample code: a:link {default styling} a:visited {visited link styling} a:hover {when mouse hovers styling} a:active, a:focus {when link receives focus via tabbing or keypress} > I have not tried, but there may be a way with CSS to > specify an auditory event for each link state. On the face of it, I don't see how this would be a good thing with respect to some assistive computer technologies (e.g., screen-reader, text-to-speech systems, etc.). Can you give an example of what you mean? take care, sean Quoting Scott StOnge : > Good question, Joe. I just tried tabbing through my home page again and > the links showed the ACTIVE state (instead of HOVER). For an auditory > browser, because it is a text link, the default notification for links > in that software would apply. Some will say "link" before reading the > hypertext, etc. I have not tried, but there may be a way with CSS to > specify an auditory event for each link state. > > > > Scott SaintOnge > Webmaster > National Center for Telecommunications Technologies > - a division of Springfield Technical Community College > > http://www.nctt.org > (413)755-6553 > >>> jhumbert@purdue.edu 05/26/06 14:57 PM >>> > Hi! > > Does the hover work with keyboard events? i.e. tab to a link. Because > most > low vision and blind users I have come across do really care about the > colors because they use jaws to find the links on the page. which may > make > me asking this question a mood point, but so be it. thankx. > > Joe Humbert > Assistive Technology Specialist > ACM SIGGRAPH at Purdue > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org]On > Behalf Of Scott StOnge > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:36 PM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: Re: [Athen] question about links - underlining > > > Hello, > > I've found that using the a:hover pseudo-class for CSS works great for > providing simple roll-over effects to text links and minimizes the need > for color concerns. I just start off with underlined links (changing > colors according to current design) and when a user mouses over the link > the underline dissappears. Someone listening to the page would never > know the difference. > > Here's a little CSS code from my site's stylesheet: > > A:hover { > font-family: Arial, sans-serif; > color: #990000; > text-decoration: none; > } > > Hope this helps, > > > Scott SaintOnge > Webmaster > National Center for Telecommunications Technologies > - a division of Springfield Technical Community College > > http://www.nctt.org > (413)755-6553 > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From ron.stewart at oregonstate.edu Fri May 26 16:41:33 2006 From: ron.stewart at oregonstate.edu (Stewart, Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about links - underlining Message-ID: Any what if they are not using JAWS? Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Joe Humbert Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:56 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] question about links - underlining Hi! Does the hover work with keyboard events? i.e. tab to a link. Because most low vision and blind users I have come across do really care about the colors because they use jaws to find the links on the page. which may make me asking this question a mood point, but so be it. thankx. Joe Humbert Assistive Technology Specialist ACM SIGGRAPH at Purdue -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org]On Behalf Of Scott StOnge Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:36 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] question about links - underlining Hello, I've found that using the a:hover pseudo-class for CSS works great for providing simple roll-over effects to text links and minimizes the need for color concerns. I just start off with underlined links (changing colors according to current design) and when a user mouses over the link the underline dissappears. Someone listening to the page would never know the difference. Here's a little CSS code from my site's stylesheet: A:hover { font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: #990000; text-decoration: none; } Hope this helps, Scott SaintOnge Webmaster National Center for Telecommunications Technologies - a division of Springfield Technical Community College http://www.nctt.org (413)755-6553 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From pratikp1 at lycos.com Sat May 27 06:10:43 2006 From: pratikp1 at lycos.com (Pratik patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <02c301c6818e$f621fec0$6500a8c0@LENOVO1C5CE3C3> Dan, I certainly wasn't going to suggest that my picture be put up! THE HORROR! You're welcome to come up with creative descriptions for the alt tag. I'm quite sure it'll be accurate. Pratik -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:03 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form Are you mocking me? .... is he mocking me? ... the guy from New York is mocking me I think .... OK -- but only if I get to write the copy for the alt-tag ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Pratik patel >Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:55 AM >To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' >Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form > >Dan, I don't think we need to mention the handsome factor and the >intelligence factor at all. We can just post your picture with an >appropriate alt tag and people will understand. After all, subliminal >advertisements work much better than explicit ones. > >Howard, perhaps you can post the membership link >(http://athenpro.org/node/13) along with the professional membership >information as as a compromise. This saves you space and allows people to >go directly to the membership information. You can say something like: >"For >more information on ATHEN membership levels and to obtain an application, >visit http://athenpro.org/node/13." Of course, you can change that wording >to fit the context. > >Regards, > >Pratik > >Pratik Patel >Director, CUNY Assistive technology Services (CATS) >The City University of New York >pratikp1@lycos.com > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J >Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:26 PM >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; athen@athenpro.org >Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form > >How about something explaining how all of the members are good looking and >smart as whips! > >OK -- better than that -- talk up the ATHEN track of programs and make >mention of the networking and social opportunities. Networking can be >facilitated by marking our nametags with something (a big red 'A' or a >grecian column or some such). We all know that one night of the conference >we will be have an ATHEN night out for dinner and drinks. > > >========================= >Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director >Boston University Office of Disability Services >19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor >Boston, MA 02215 > >(617) 353-3658 (office) >(617) 353-9646 (fax) >djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) >www.bu.edu/disability > >________________________________ > >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of Howard Kramer >Sent: Thu 5/25/2006 3:14 PM >To: athen@athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form > > >Hello All: > >Here is the text I was planning to put on the Accessing Higher Ground >registration form explaining ATHEN. It comes directly from the Web site. > >Access Technologists Higher Education Network (ATHEN) >ATHEN is a professional association and network for Access Technologists in >Higher Education. The purpose of ATHEN is to collect and disseminate best >practices in access technology in the higher education environment as well >as present a collective voice for the professional practice of access >technology in higher education. For more information on ATHEN membership >and >its benefits, see the web site at: www.athenpro.org > > Also, I only posted the option for Professional >Membership due to space limitations. Should the other memberships be >mentioned or will folks probably pick that up by going to the ATHEN Pro Web >site. Any thought on a specific blurb on the Web site indicating the >benefits of membership? > >Thanks, >Howard > > > >Howard Kramer >Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator >AT Conference Coordinator >Disability Services >CU-Boulder, 107 UCB >Boulder, Co 80309 >303-492-8672 > > >NOTICE: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic >Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C._2510-2521, is confidential and may be >privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any >retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is >prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to the >sender that you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank >you for helping to maintain privacy. > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jongund at uiuc.edu Tue May 30 11:38:11 2006 From: jongund at uiuc.edu (Jon Gunderson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about links - underlining Message-ID: There are some web technologies that ignore styles sheets like text browsers like LYNX, cell phone and PDA technologies. Jon ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 10:29:18 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) >From: Dan Comden >Subject: Re: [Athen] question about links - underlining >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > >On Fri, 26 May 2006, Berkowitz, Daniel J wrote: > >> Optional browsers, such as Firefox and Opera, have accessibility options >> that allow the end-user to choose how links will be displayed and >> handled. They can be personalized. > >Though it's possible to override styles, the overwhelming majority of web >users have no idea that they can do this. They use their browsers with >"out of the box" settings. > >I think links should *always* be underlined, and should be a different >color than the rest of the content. > >-*- Dan Comden danc@u.washington.edu > Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ > University of Washington > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Director of IT Accessibility Services Campus Information Technologies and Educational Services (CITES) and Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology Disability Resources and Education Services (DRES) Voice: (217) 244-5870 Fax: (217) 333-0248 Cell: (217) 714-6313 E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu WWW: http://cita.rehab.uiuc.edu/ WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/ From Michael.Goldhammer at mhcc.edu Tue May 30 14:51:49 2006 From: Michael.Goldhammer at mhcc.edu (Michael Goldhammer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Document Conversion Costs Message-ID: Colleagues - If you costing out your Alt Media Conversion process what would you measure it by Cost per page comes to mind but I'm sure there are other measures. 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From gdietrich at htctu.net Tue May 30 17:24:01 2006 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] color blindness (was question about links - underlining) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <011401c68448$8423d390$5e821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Hi Alice (and everyone)! Others have responded to the underlining issue (yes, underline), but something about the person's comment ('unless you underline, I won't be able to see them') made me sit up and say, "Wait, that makes it sound like the words disappear. Do people think the colors just disappear?" Probably no one actually thought that, but it prompted me to think that maybe I should speak to the color blindness issue itself. I once tested a student (female, unusually) who had both red/green and blue/purple color blindness. She turned to me after the test and said, "What do I see?" Frankly, I wasn't sure, so since then I have taken any opportunity that presented itself to talk to folks who are color blind about what they see. >From the experience of the men I have spoken with, pigments that are a very true primary red or green are generally seen as those colors. The less true the color (and the more pronounced the color blindness), the more the color veers into a sort of indeterminate brownish or grayish color. I am told that lighting can make a difference, and that undertones in a color can become the only color the person sees; for instance, one man told me that his wife had on a shirt that most people would have called gray green or even greenish black, and he saw it quite clearly as green. Interestingly, with cloth, green is sometimes used as a base for black (i.e., strip out the black pigment and you will have green cloth). We spent an interesting afternoon one time with a color blind friend going through the box of 200 color markers and asking him what different colors were. He seemed to have an enormous range of "orangish-brown" that included everything that we saw as orange to pink to brown. Where other color blind men I know resort to black/gray or listen to their wives, this gentleman's color choices were his own and a bit unique to the rest of us. There is a really great discussion of color blindness on the following site: http://www.toledo-bend.com/colorblind/aboutCB.html One other tid-bit; for something that affects a fairly significant portion of the male population (no I'm not being sexist; it's sex-linked), it would be surprising if there were no factors that might select for it genetically. It turns out that men who are color blind are very good at seeing through camouflage. Their eye is not deceived by the colors. It makes sense when you think about it. Women, who were generally gathering plants in early societies would need to be able to see the red berry on the green bush, but men, who were generally hunting (or watching, but that's another topic ;-), would be well-served to see through the color camouflage that many animals employ. Not sure anyone needs to know about all that, but I find the topic rather intriguing, so there you have it. :-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich Alternate Media Training Specialist / Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 408.996.6043 www.htctu.net -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Alice Anderson Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 6:02 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] question about links - underlining All, What are your thoughts about 'links' on this page...we're having an ongoing discussion/debate in my world about red/green colorblind, and using red as links without underlining. At one point, I received an email from a color blind individual saying 'unless you underline, I won't be able to see them'.... all comments and thoughts - to the list, or me individually, appreciated, thanks, alice On May 25, 2006, at 8:25 PM, Berkowitz, Daniel J wrote: > How about something explaining how all of the members are good looking > and smart as whips! > > OK -- better than that -- talk up the ATHEN track of programs and make > mention of the networking and social opportunities. Networking can be > facilitated by marking our nametags with something (a big red 'A' or a > grecian column or some such). We all know that one night of the > conference we will be have an ATHEN night out for dinner and drinks. > > > ========================= > Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director > Boston University Office of Disability Services > 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor > Boston, MA 02215 > > (617) 353-3658 (office) > (617) 353-9646 (fax) > djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability > > ________________________________ > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of Howard Kramer > Sent: Thu 5/25/2006 3:14 PM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: [Athen] ATHEN text for AHG 2006 registration form > > > Hello All: > > Here is the text I was planning to put on the Accessing Higher Ground > registration form explaining ATHEN. It comes directly from the Web > site. > > Access Technologists Higher Education Network (ATHEN) ATHEN is a > professional association and network for Access Technologists in > Higher Education. The purpose of ATHEN is to collect and disseminate > best practices in access technology in the higher education > environment as well as present a collective voice for the professional > practice of access technology in higher education. For more > information on ATHEN membership and its benefits, see the web site at: > www.athenpro.org > > Also, I only posted the option for > Professional Membership due to space limitations. Should the other > memberships be mentioned or will folks probably pick that up by going > to the ATHEN Pro Web site. Any thought on a specific blurb on the Web > site indicating the benefits of membership? > > Thanks, > Howard > > > > Howard Kramer > Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator > AT Conference Coordinator > Disability Services > CU-Boulder, 107 UCB > Boulder, Co 80309 > 303-492-8672 > > > NOTICE: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the > Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C._2510-2521, is > confidential and may be privileged. 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Thank you for > helping to maintain privacy. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Alice Anderson Technology Accessibility Program (TAP) Division of Information Technology (DoIT) University of Wisconsin-Madison 1210 West Dayton Street (3324) Madison, WI 53705 http://www.doit.wisc.edu/accessibility/ Telephone: 608.262.2129 Fax: 608.265.6453 ----------------- "Believe there is a great power silently working all things for good, behave yourself and never mind the rest." ~~Beatrix Potter~~ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed May 31 05:42:49 2006 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Document Conversion Costs Message-ID: Honestly, I try not to think about it too hard. If hard-pressed, I could probably come up with a cost per book based on how many pages and how complex those pages are. Each book I do is different than the last, and to be able to put a "price per page" on it is really difficult. A novel price per page might be 6 cents; a science lab book per page might be closer to $60. Susan Kelmer Coordinator Information ACCESS Lab St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeano at uwm.edu Wed May 31 07:47:51 2006 From: jeano at uwm.edu (Jean Salzer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Document Conversion Costs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <447DAC97.8070403@uwm.edu> My two cents after completing my first full year of digital conversion: For me to cost out - and this is minimal as I don't include electrical, copy costs and such - I'd include the purchase and maintenance costs for scanners, embossers, computers, software, any other hardware - such as a comb binder - and then time individuals put in to do whatever is necessary. I could then do a simple average based on the number of pages or number of books or the number of students who use the service. Where that gets me in trouble is I intend to use the equipment for two or three years. I believe I'd need to have costs and numbers for at least two years before I could come up with a solid figure. I'm tempted to cost it out based on student numbers versus pages, because most of our campus related stats are based on the number of students in any given category. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jeano.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 284 bytes Desc: not available URL: From djbrky at bu.edu Wed May 31 08:26:30 2006 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Document Conversion Costs Message-ID: This is something Ron has been asked repeatedly at eText Institutes and I will be discussing at the eText Institute I am leading at Landmark College next week. This is the type of information we should have on the ATHEN website - basic tech lab configurations and options. In my version of the eText Institute I outline basic and advanced workstations, basic and production software, monitors, burners and storage drives, printing and labeling, workspace, scanners, staffing, playback software and hardware. Ron likes to use the following number for budgeting. Once you have a rough estimate of salaries (staff costs) - multiply that number by 1.24 for a rough estimate of production costs. He told me where the number 1.24 came from but I don't remember. ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Jean Salzer >Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:48 AM >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >Subject: Re: [Athen] Document Conversion Costs > >My two cents after completing my first full year of digital conversion: > >For me to cost out - and this is minimal as I don't include electrical, >copy costs and such - I'd include the purchase and maintenance costs for >scanners, embossers, computers, software, any other hardware - such as a >comb binder - and then time individuals put in to do whatever is >necessary. I could then do a simple average based on the number of pages >or number of books or the number of students who use the service. Where >that gets me in trouble is I intend to use the equipment for two or >three years. I believe I'd need to have costs and numbers for at least >two years before I could come up with a solid figure. I'm tempted to >cost it out based on student numbers versus pages, because most of our >campus related stats are based on the number of students in any given >category. From terrih at asu.edu Wed May 31 09:16:27 2006 From: terrih at asu.edu (Terri Hedgpeth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Document Conversion Costs Message-ID: <6DC38348EDE07642B024AA3CA0AA1BDC026E492F@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Just as a rule of thumb on a not so concrete or absolute target. When I was doing document conversion we used the following formula: Number of staff hours X wages for those staff/students plus materials = basic cost per job. I think that's the closest you can come to costing out doc conversion jobs. Terri Hedgpeth Academic Research Professional CUbiC #376, iCare (480) 727-8133 V (480) 965-1885 Fax CUbiC.asu.edu http://www.fulton.asu.edu/fulton/ -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jean Salzer Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:48 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Document Conversion Costs My two cents after completing my first full year of digital conversion: For me to cost out - and this is minimal as I don't include electrical, copy costs and such - I'd include the purchase and maintenance costs for scanners, embossers, computers, software, any other hardware - such as a comb binder - and then time individuals put in to do whatever is necessary. I could then do a simple average based on the number of pages or number of books or the number of students who use the service. Where that gets me in trouble is I intend to use the equipment for two or three years. I believe I'd need to have costs and numbers for at least two years before I could come up with a solid figure. I'm tempted to cost it out based on student numbers versus pages, because most of our campus related stats are based on the number of students in any given category. From jbailey at uoregon.edu Wed May 31 09:48:56 2006 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] JFW 7.0 and WYNN 4.0 authorization conflict In-Reply-To: <6DC38348EDE07642B024AA3CA0AA1BDC026E492F@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <6DC38348EDE07642B024AA3CA0AA1BDC026E492F@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: Recently I reported an authorization conflict between JFW 7.0 and WYNN 4.0. It has been resolved and I wanted to share the solution. Here is the quick background: because of our deployment plan we wanted to authorize WYNN and JFW differently on the same machine. When this was initially tried there were conflicts, you could authorize one program or the other, but not both. In this case the JFW was picking up its authorization from a server on campus. The local machine had an environment variable named LSFORCEHOST. The conflict was resolved by renaming that variable LSHOST. So far, this solution seems to be working. The solution was sent to me (eventually) by Freedom Scientific support. James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@darkwing.uoregon.edu From aryssemu at sdccd.edu Wed May 31 10:23:42 2006 From: aryssemu at sdccd.edu (Andre Ryssemus) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Document Conversion Costs Message-ID: <05C9F46F0779EA48B8D64113FBDC86810141809A@ntxdo.sdccd.cc.ca.us> I would also add an additional 10-15% to the job. That would cover maintenance costs, additional overhead when needed, and upgrades. Andre Ryssemus SDCCD/DSPS -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terri Hedgpeth Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:16 AM To: jeano@uwm.edu; Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Document Conversion Costs Just as a rule of thumb on a not so concrete or absolute target. When I was doing document conversion we used the following formula: Number of staff hours X wages for those staff/students plus materials = basic cost per job. I think that's the closest you can come to costing out doc conversion jobs. Terri Hedgpeth Academic Research Professional CUbiC #376, iCare (480) 727-8133 V (480) 965-1885 Fax CUbiC.asu.edu http://www.fulton.asu.edu/fulton/ -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jean Salzer Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:48 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Document Conversion Costs My two cents after completing my first full year of digital conversion: For me to cost out - and this is minimal as I don't include electrical, copy costs and such - I'd include the purchase and maintenance costs for scanners, embossers, computers, software, any other hardware - such as a comb binder - and then time individuals put in to do whatever is necessary. I could then do a simple average based on the number of pages or number of books or the number of students who use the service. Where that gets me in trouble is I intend to use the equipment for two or three years. I believe I'd need to have costs and numbers for at least two years before I could come up with a solid figure. I'm tempted to cost it out based on student numbers versus pages, because most of our campus related stats are based on the number of students in any given category. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org