From thaven at hawaii.edu Mon Oct 1 10:35:07 2007 From: thaven at hawaii.edu (Teresa LW Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] MobileSpeak Pocket In-Reply-To: <005401c801da$672deb20$3589c160$@org> Message-ID: <001201c80451$68ee5110$0c71ab80@KOKUAAT> Thanks to all who responded; I appreciate the input. Teresa From kelly at kellford.com Tue Oct 2 09:36:21 2007 From: kelly at kellford.com (Kelly Ford) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Message-ID: <248801c80512$5dfa8af0$0301a8c0@mediapc> Apologies if this was posted here already. I didn't see it on the list. Kelly _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Friendly Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:22 PM To: bksvol-discuss@freelists.org; bookshare-discuss@freelists.org Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Forwarded from Jim Fruchterman: I'm happy to share incredible news, which will transform Bookshare.org. On Friday, the Office of Special Education Programs of the U.S. federal Department of Education made a major five-year award of $32 million to Bookshare.org. This funding is to fully support all schools and students with qualifying print disabilities in the United States, K-12 and post-secondary, with access to the entire Bookshare.org collection of accessible electronic books and to software for reading those books. As of October 1, 2007, we will cease charging these schools and students anything to join Bookshare.org as members. In this initial news flash, I can't begin to share with you all of our plans for Bookshare.org now with this funding. But, we are planning on adding more than 100,000 new educational books and materials to our existing collection of over 34,000 titles. We are going to reach out to every student, every family with a disabled student, and every school in the U.S. to offer them the chance to join the Bookshare.org community and transform the practice of making books accessible. We are going to coordinate with schools and publishers to deliver the best quality content possible and lower their costs in meeting our shared obligations to serve every student with a disability in the nation. We expect to provide millions of books to students through this new program over the next five years, at a tenth or less of the historical cost of providing these services. And, we expect our improvements to serve all of these students will make Bookshare.org better for all of our Bookshare.org users. Bookshare.org's track record of being highly responsive to our members will be enhanced with significant funding to implement major improvements to our content and services. Our volunteer community is an essential part of what made this grant possible, and you are a crucial part to making this a success in the future. Your commitment to our shared vision of better access to information is core to where we are heading. We want to make equal access to educational materials for disabled students a reality! Jim Jim Fruchterman President and CEO Benetech -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbailey at uoregon.edu Tue Oct 2 09:35:24 2007 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] resources for accessibility of wikis, podcast and blogs Message-ID: <1191342924.511489.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> I am doing a poster session on the accessibility of wikis, blogs and podcasts for Educause. If you maintain a page that you would like listed or know a page that should be listed, please let me know. Thanks, James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu From dmurphy at collegeofthedesert.edu Tue Oct 2 09:58:58 2007 From: dmurphy at collegeofthedesert.edu (Daryl Murphy) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <248801c80512$5dfa8af0$0301a8c0@mediapc> References: <248801c80512$5dfa8af0$0301a8c0@mediapc> Message-ID: <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC74770B@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> No community colleges or 4 year institutions. Still leaving us out. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Ford Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:36 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Apologies if this was posted here already. I didn't see it on the list. Kelly ________________________________ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Friendly Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:22 PM To: bksvol-discuss@freelists.org; bookshare-discuss@freelists.org Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Forwarded from Jim Fruchterman: I'm happy to share incredible news, which will transform Bookshare.org. On Friday, the Office of Special Education Programs of the U.S. federal Department of Education made a major five-year award of $32 million to Bookshare.org. This funding is to fully support all schools and students with qualifying print disabilities in the United States, K-12 and post-secondary, with access to the entire Bookshare.org collection of accessible electronic books and to software for reading those books. As of October 1, 2007, we will cease charging these schools and students anything to join Bookshare.org as members. In this initial news flash, I can't begin to share with you all of our plans for Bookshare.org now with this funding. But, we are planning on adding more than 100,000 new educational books and materials to our existing collection of over 34,000 titles. We are going to reach out to every student, every family with a disabled student, and every school in the U.S. to offer them the chance to join the Bookshare.org community and transform the practice of making books accessible. We are going to coordinate with schools and publishers to deliver the best quality content possible and lower their costs in meeting our shared obligations to serve every student with a disability in the nation. We expect to provide millions of books to students through this new program over the next five years, at a tenth or less of the historical cost of providing these services. And, we expect our improvements to serve all of these students will make Bookshare.org better for all of our Bookshare.org users. Bookshare.org's track record of being highly responsive to our members will be enhanced with significant funding to implement major improvements to our content and services. Our volunteer community is an essential part of what made this grant possible, and you are a crucial part to making this a success in the future. Your commitment to our shared vision of better access to information is core to where we are heading. 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" I read that as CC's and four-year's (post-secondary) but the membership page shows that only the STUDENT has free access to what WE buy. That's not "free." Susan Kelmer Coordinator Information ACCESS Lab St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Murphy Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:59 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org No community colleges or 4 year institutions. Still leaving us out. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Ford Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:36 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Apologies if this was posted here already. I didn't see it on the list. Kelly _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Friendly Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:22 PM To: bksvol-discuss@freelists.org; bookshare-discuss@freelists.org Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Forwarded from Jim Fruchterman: I'm happy to share incredible news, which will transform Bookshare.org. On Friday, the Office of Special Education Programs of the U.S. federal Department of Education made a major five-year award of $32 million to Bookshare.org. This funding is to fully support all schools and students with qualifying print disabilities in the United States, K-12 and post-secondary, with access to the entire Bookshare.org collection of accessible electronic books and to software for reading those books. As of October 1, 2007, we will cease charging these schools and students anything to join Bookshare.org as members. In this initial news flash, I can't begin to share with you all of our plans for Bookshare.org now with this funding. But, we are planning on adding more than 100,000 new educational books and materials to our existing collection of over 34,000 titles. We are going to reach out to every student, every family with a disabled student, and every school in the U.S. to offer them the chance to join the Bookshare.org community and transform the practice of making books accessible. We are going to coordinate with schools and publishers to deliver the best quality content possible and lower their costs in meeting our shared obligations to serve every student with a disability in the nation. We expect to provide millions of books to students through this new program over the next five years, at a tenth or less of the historical cost of providing these services. And, we expect our improvements to serve all of these students will make Bookshare.org better for all of our Bookshare.org users. Bookshare.org's track record of being highly responsive to our members will be enhanced with significant funding to implement major improvements to our content and services. Our volunteer community is an essential part of what made this grant possible, and you are a crucial part to making this a success in the future. Your commitment to our shared vision of better access to information is core to where we are heading. We want to make equal access to educational materials for disabled students a reality! Jim Jim Fruchterman President and CEO Benetech -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danc at u.washington.edu Tue Oct 2 10:13:49 2007 From: danc at u.washington.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC74770B@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> References: <248801c80512$5dfa8af0$0301a8c0@mediapc> <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC74770B@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> Message-ID: "post secondary" is the same thing as higher education is the same thing as colleges and universities. Not left out! On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Daryl Murphy wrote: > No community colleges or 4 year institutions. Still leaving us out. > From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Tue Oct 2 10:17:02 2007 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Message-ID: >"post secondary" is the same thing as higher education is the >same thing as colleges and universities. Not left out! Go check the membership page...colleges and universities still have to pay the fee, only the STUDENTS get it for free from the pool we buy. -Susan Kelmer From rbeach at kckcc.edu Tue Oct 2 10:17:03 2007 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC74770B@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> References: <248801c80512$5dfa8af0$0301a8c0@mediapc> <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC74770B@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> Message-ID: <470236BF020000CF0000285B@mymail.kckcc.edu> The message said k-12 and post secondary. I think that includes colleges and universities, unless I'm misunderstanding their definition. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Daryl Murphy" 10/2/2007 11:58 AM >>> No community colleges or 4 year institutions. Still leaving us out. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Ford Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:36 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Apologies if this was posted here already. I didn't see it on the list. Kelly ________________________________ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Friendly Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:22 PM To: bksvol-discuss@freelists.org; bookshare-discuss@freelists.org Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Forwarded from Jim Fruchterman: I'm happy to share incredible news, which will transform Bookshare.org. On Friday, the Office of Special Education Programs of the U.S. federal Department of Education made a major five-year award of $32 million to Bookshare.org. This funding is to fully support all schools and students with qualifying print disabilities in the United States, K-12 and post-secondary, with access to the entire Bookshare.org collection of accessible electronic books and to software for reading those books. As of October 1, 2007, we will cease charging these schools and students anything to join Bookshare.org as members. In this initial news flash, I can't begin to share with you all of our plans for Bookshare.org now with this funding. But, we are planning on adding more than 100,000 new educational books and materials to our existing collection of over 34,000 titles. We are going to reach out to every student, every family with a disabled student, and every school in the U.S. to offer them the chance to join the Bookshare.org community and transform the practice of making books accessible. We are going to coordinate with schools and publishers to deliver the best quality content possible and lower their costs in meeting our shared obligations to serve every student with a disability in the nation. We expect to provide millions of books to students through this new program over the next five years, at a tenth or less of the historical cost of providing these services. And, we expect our improvements to serve all of these students will make Bookshare.org better for all of our Bookshare.org users. Bookshare.org's track record of being highly responsive to our members will be enhanced with significant funding to implement major improvements to our content and services. Our volunteer community is an essential part of what made this grant possible, and you are a crucial part to making this a success in the future. Your commitment to our shared vision of better access to information is core to where we are heading. We want to make equal access to educational materials for disabled students a reality! Jim Jim Fruchterman President and CEO Benetech From jbailey at uoregon.edu Tue Oct 2 10:37:47 2007 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC74770B@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> References: <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC74770B@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> Message-ID: <1191346667.280516.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> The second paragraph on bookshare's home page does say"and post-secondary." I'll guess we'll have to see what that means. Or did you dig deeper and find post-secondary excluded? -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:58:58 -0700, "Daryl Murphy" wrote: > > > No community colleges or 4 year institutions. Still leaving us out. > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Ford > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:36 AM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > > > > Apologies if this was posted here already. I didn't see it on the list. > > Kelly > > > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Friendly > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:22 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@freelists.org; bookshare-discuss@freelists.org > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > Forwarded from Jim Fruchterman: > > I'm happy to share incredible news, which will transform Bookshare.org. > On Friday, the Office of Special Education Programs of the U.S. federal > Department of Education made a major five-year award of $32 million to > Bookshare.org. > > This funding is to fully support all schools and students with > qualifying print disabilities in the United States, K-12 and > post-secondary, with access to the entire Bookshare.org collection of > accessible electronic books and to software for reading those books. As > of October 1, 2007, we will cease charging these schools and students > anything to join Bookshare.org as members. > > In this initial news flash, I can't begin to share with you all of our > plans for Bookshare.org now with this funding. But, we are planning on > adding more than 100,000 new educational books and materials to our > existing collection of over 34,000 titles. We are going to reach out to > every student, every family with a disabled student, and every school in > the U.S. to offer them the chance to join the Bookshare.org community > and transform the practice of making books accessible. We are going to > coordinate with schools and publishers to deliver the best quality > content possible and lower their costs in meeting our shared obligations > to serve every student with a disability in the nation. We expect to > provide millions of books to students through this new program over the > next five years, at a tenth or less of the historical cost of providing > these services. > > > And, we expect our improvements to serve all of these students will make > Bookshare.org better for all of our Bookshare.org users. > Bookshare.org's track record of being highly responsive to our members > will be enhanced with significant funding to implement major > improvements to our content and services. > > Our volunteer community is an essential part of what made this grant > possible, and you are a crucial part to making this a success in the > future. Your commitment to our shared vision of better access to > information is core to where we are heading. > > We want to make equal access to educational materials for disabled > students a reality! > > Jim > > Jim Fruchterman > > President and CEO > > Benetech > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu Tue Oct 2 10:53:31 2007 From: Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu (Baker, Nick) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC74770B@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> References: <248801c80512$5dfa8af0$0301a8c0@mediapc> <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC74770B@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> Message-ID: <42816E1795C8EB44B1676468392D079456977C@MUMMAILVS1.gs.umt.edu> Doesn't post-secondary include community colleges, four-year colleges and universities? Nick Baker Assistive Technology Coordinator nick.baker@umontana.edu 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) 406-243-2663 (Voice only) Disability Services for Students The University of Montana EL 154 32 Campus Drive Missoula, MT 59812 ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Murphy Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:59 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org No community colleges or 4 year institutions. Still leaving us out. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Ford Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:36 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Apologies if this was posted here already. I didn't see it on the list. Kelly ________________________________ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Friendly Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:22 PM To: bksvol-discuss@freelists.org; bookshare-discuss@freelists.org Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Forwarded from Jim Fruchterman: I'm happy to share incredible news, which will transform Bookshare.org. On Friday, the Office of Special Education Programs of the U.S. federal Department of Education made a major five-year award of $32 million to Bookshare.org. This funding is to fully support all schools and students with qualifying print disabilities in the United States, K-12 and post-secondary, with access to the entire Bookshare.org collection of accessible electronic books and to software for reading those books. As of October 1, 2007, we will cease charging these schools and students anything to join Bookshare.org as members. In this initial news flash, I can't begin to share with you all of our plans for Bookshare.org now with this funding. But, we are planning on adding more than 100,000 new educational books and materials to our existing collection of over 34,000 titles. We are going to reach out to every student, every family with a disabled student, and every school in the U.S. to offer them the chance to join the Bookshare.org community and transform the practice of making books accessible. We are going to coordinate with schools and publishers to deliver the best quality content possible and lower their costs in meeting our shared obligations to serve every student with a disability in the nation. We expect to provide millions of books to students through this new program over the next five years, at a tenth or less of the historical cost of providing these services. And, we expect our improvements to serve all of these students will make Bookshare.org better for all of our Bookshare.org users. Bookshare.org's track record of being highly responsive to our members will be enhanced with significant funding to implement major improvements to our content and services. Our volunteer community is an essential part of what made this grant possible, and you are a crucial part to making this a success in the future. Your commitment to our shared vision of better access to information is core to where we are heading. We want to make equal access to educational materials for disabled students a reality! Jim Jim Fruchterman President and CEO Benetech -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cathk at cahs.colostate.edu Tue Oct 2 10:51:57 2007 From: cathk at cahs.colostate.edu (Kilcommons,Cath) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] line 21 captions and transfering from VHS to DVD In-Reply-To: <68376C7215E47C4BAE6271B0AA82C9FF04D7E4F7@iu-mssg-mbx105.ads.iu.edu> References: <68376C7215E47C4BAE6271B0AA82C9FF04D7E4F7@iu-mssg-mbx105.ads.iu.edu> Message-ID: <63C56460EFB67341A173FCE2F79FF6DD0937539EFB@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> Hi All, National Center for Accessible Media (NCAM) has a product called CaptionKeeper - I have attached a presentation by Geoff Freed that he gave at Accessing Higher Ground 2006. I think this may be of interest to you. http://ncam.wgbh.org/webaccess/captionkeeper/faqs.html Regards, Cath ++++++ Cath Stager-Kilcommons ACCESS Project Colorado State University 970-491-0788 http://accessibility.colostate.edu/ cathk@cahs.colostate.edu ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Humbert, Joseph A Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 8:26 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] line 21 captions and transfering from VHS to DVD Hi! I got a question from a techie at the library. He asked if there was video production software out there that could read the line 21 captions off of VHS and apply them to a DVD? Currently they are using a decoder in between, but it is not an easy process. Thankx. 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I think this may be of interest to you. http://ncam.wgbh.org/webaccess/captionkeeper/faqs.html Regards, Cath ++++++ Cath Stager-Kilcommons ACCESS Project Colorado State University 970-491-0788 http://accessibility.colostate.edu/ cathk@cahs.colostate.edu ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Humbert, Joseph A Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 8:26 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] line 21 captions and transfering from VHS to DVD Hi! I got a question from a techie at the library. He asked if there was video production software out there that could read the line 21 captions off of VHS and apply them to a DVD? Currently they are using a decoder in between, but it is not an easy process. Thankx. 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Name: CK_AHG2006_web.ppt Type: application/vnd.ms-powerpoint Size: 772608 bytes Desc: CK_AHG2006_web.ppt URL: From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Tue Oct 2 12:59:22 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC74770B@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> References: <248801c80512$5dfa8af0$0301a8c0@mediapc> <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC74770B@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> Message-ID: <014f01c8052e$bf2ed0d0$3d8c7270$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Based on the conditions of the RFP Postsecondary has to be included but due to the fact that they are using a Chafee based definition of print disability a lot of students are left in the dust. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Murphy Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:59 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org No community colleges or 4 year institutions. Still leaving us out. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Ford Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:36 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Apologies if this was posted here already. I didn't see it on the list. Kelly _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Friendly Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:22 PM To: bksvol-discuss@freelists.org; bookshare-discuss@freelists.org Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Forwarded from Jim Fruchterman: I'm happy to share incredible news, which will transform Bookshare.org. On Friday, the Office of Special Education Programs of the U.S. federal Department of Education made a major five-year award of $32 million to Bookshare.org. This funding is to fully support all schools and students with qualifying print disabilities in the United States, K-12 and post-secondary, with access to the entire Bookshare.org collection of accessible electronic books and to software for reading those books. As of October 1, 2007, we will cease charging these schools and students anything to join Bookshare.org as members. In this initial news flash, I can't begin to share with you all of our plans for Bookshare.org now with this funding. But, we are planning on adding more than 100,000 new educational books and materials to our existing collection of over 34,000 titles. We are going to reach out to every student, every family with a disabled student, and every school in the U.S. to offer them the chance to join the Bookshare.org community and transform the practice of making books accessible. We are going to coordinate with schools and publishers to deliver the best quality content possible and lower their costs in meeting our shared obligations to serve every student with a disability in the nation. We expect to provide millions of books to students through this new program over the next five years, at a tenth or less of the historical cost of providing these services. And, we expect our improvements to serve all of these students will make Bookshare.org better for all of our Bookshare.org users. Bookshare.org's track record of being highly responsive to our members will be enhanced with significant funding to implement major improvements to our content and services. Our volunteer community is an essential part of what made this grant possible, and you are a crucial part to making this a success in the future. Your commitment to our shared vision of better access to information is core to where we are heading. We want to make equal access to educational materials for disabled students a reality! Jim Jim Fruchterman President and CEO Benetech -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fgsmith at vcu.edu Tue Oct 2 13:02:41 2007 From: fgsmith at vcu.edu (Frances G Smith/AC/VCU) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Frances G Smith/AC/VCU is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting Mon 10/01/2007 and will not return until Mon 10/08/2007. I will respond to your message when I return. From pratikp1 at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 13:38:46 2007 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <014f01c8052e$bf2ed0d0$3d8c7270$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> References: <248801c80512$5dfa8af0$0301a8c0@mediapc> <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC74770B@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> <014f01c8052e$bf2ed0d0$3d8c7270$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <036e01c80534$3bbb5470$b331fd50$@com> Not only that the Chafey based definition is being used, but the students must be 26 years old or less to qualify. That's the OSEP definition. Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:59 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Based on the conditions of the RFP Postsecondary has to be included but due to the fact that they are using a Chafee based definition of print disability a lot of students are left in the dust. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Murphy Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:59 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org No community colleges or 4 year institutions. Still leaving us out. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Ford Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:36 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Apologies if this was posted here already. I didn't see it on the list. Kelly _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Friendly Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:22 PM To: bksvol-discuss@freelists.org; bookshare-discuss@freelists.org Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Forwarded from Jim Fruchterman: I'm happy to share incredible news, which will transform Bookshare.org. On Friday, the Office of Special Education Programs of the U.S. federal Department of Education made a major five-year award of $32 million to Bookshare.org. This funding is to fully support all schools and students with qualifying print disabilities in the United States, K-12 and post-secondary, with access to the entire Bookshare.org collection of accessible electronic books and to software for reading those books. As of October 1, 2007, we will cease charging these schools and students anything to join Bookshare.org as members. In this initial news flash, I can't begin to share with you all of our plans for Bookshare.org now with this funding. But, we are planning on adding more than 100,000 new educational books and materials to our existing collection of over 34,000 titles. We are going to reach out to every student, every family with a disabled student, and every school in the U.S. to offer them the chance to join the Bookshare.org community and transform the practice of making books accessible. We are going to coordinate with schools and publishers to deliver the best quality content possible and lower their costs in meeting our shared obligations to serve every student with a disability in the nation. We expect to provide millions of books to students through this new program over the next five years, at a tenth or less of the historical cost of providing these services. And, we expect our improvements to serve all of these students will make Bookshare.org better for all of our Bookshare.org users. Bookshare.org's track record of being highly responsive to our members will be enhanced with significant funding to implement major improvements to our content and services. Our volunteer community is an essential part of what made this grant possible, and you are a crucial part to making this a success in the future. Your commitment to our shared vision of better access to information is core to where we are heading. We want to make equal access to educational materials for disabled students a reality! Jim Jim Fruchterman President and CEO Benetech -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbailey at uoregon.edu Tue Oct 2 13:41:59 2007 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <014f01c8052e$bf2ed0d0$3d8c7270$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> References: <014f01c8052e$bf2ed0d0$3d8c7270$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <1191357719.822865.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Ron. "due to the fact that they are using a Chafee based definition of print disability" How many DS offices do you think understand this distinction? James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:59:22 -0400, "Ron Stewart" wrote: > > > Based on the conditions of the RFP Postsecondary has to be included but due to the fact that they are using a Chafee based definition of print disability a lot of students are left in the dust. > > Ron Stewart > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Murphy > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:59 PM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > > > > No community colleges or 4 year institutions. Still leaving us out. > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Ford > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:36 AM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > > > > Apologies if this was posted here already. I didn't see it on the list. > > Kelly > > > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Friendly > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:22 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@freelists.org; bookshare-discuss@freelists.org > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > Forwarded from Jim Fruchterman: > > I'm happy to share incredible news, which will transform Bookshare.org. > On Friday, the Office of Special Education Programs of the U.S. federal > Department of Education made a major five-year award of $32 million to > Bookshare.org. > > This funding is to fully support all schools and students with > qualifying print disabilities in the United States, K-12 and > post-secondary, with access to the entire Bookshare.org collection of > accessible electronic books and to software for reading those books. As > of October 1, 2007, we will cease charging these schools and students > anything to join Bookshare.org as members. > > In this initial news flash, I can't begin to share with you all of our > plans for Bookshare.org now with this funding. But, we are planning on > adding more than 100,000 new educational books and materials to our > existing collection of over 34,000 titles. We are going to reach out to > every student, every family with a disabled student, and every school in > the U.S. to offer them the chance to join the Bookshare.org community > and transform the practice of making books accessible. We are going to > coordinate with schools and publishers to deliver the best quality > content possible and lower their costs in meeting our shared obligations > to serve every student with a disability in the nation. We expect to > provide millions of books to students through this new program over the > next five years, at a tenth or less of the historical cost of providing > these services. > > > And, we expect our improvements to serve all of these students will make > Bookshare.org better for all of our Bookshare.org users. > Bookshare.org's track record of being highly responsive to our members > will be enhanced with significant funding to implement major > improvements to our content and services. > > Our volunteer community is an essential part of what made this grant > possible, and you are a crucial part to making this a success in the > future. Your commitment to our shared vision of better access to > information is core to where we are heading. > > We want to make equal access to educational materials for disabled > students a reality! > > Jim > > Jim Fruchterman > > President and CEO > > Benetech > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From accessible.text at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 13:59:40 2007 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <1191357719.822865.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> References: <1191357719.822865.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <9edf8160710021359n6a524883p255e8b191f844c52@mail.gmail.com> I think this grant could finally wake up educational publishers to the reality that the government is paying a middle-man to give away the publishers intellectual property. There is no stipulation from Bookshare that students have to buy their books in order to receive their services, so they will be getting their materials free. Not a bad deal for students, but it will rankle publishers. On 10/2/07, James Bailey wrote: > Ron. > > "due to the fact that they are using a Chafee based definition of print disability" > > How many DS offices do you think understand this distinction? > > James > > -- > James Bailey > Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon > 1299 University of Oregon > Eugene, OR 97403-1299 > Office: 541-346-1076 > jbailey@uoregon.edu > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:59:22 -0400, "Ron Stewart" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Based on the conditions of the RFP Postsecondary has to be > included but due to the fact that they are using a Chafee based definition of > print disability a lot of students are left in the dust. > > > > > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Daryl > Murphy > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:59 PM > > > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No community colleges or 4 year institutions. Still > leaving us out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelly > Ford > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:36 AM > > > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > > > Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apologies if this was posted here already. I didn't see it on > the list. > > > > > > > > Kelly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Friendly > > > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:22 PM > > > To: bksvol-discuss@freelists.org; bookshare-discuss@freelists.org > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > > > > Forwarded > from Jim Fruchterman: > > > > > > I'm happy to share incredible news, which will transform Bookshare.org. > > > On Friday, the Office of Special Education Programs of the U.S. federal > > > Department of Education made a major five-year award of $32 million to > > > Bookshare.org. > > > > > > This funding is to fully support all schools and students with > > > qualifying print disabilities in the United States, K-12 and > > > post-secondary, with access to the entire Bookshare.org collection of > > > accessible electronic books and to software for reading those books. As > > > of October 1, 2007, we will cease charging these schools and students > > > anything to join Bookshare.org as members. > > > > > > In this initial news flash, I can't begin to share with you all of our > > > plans for Bookshare.org now with this funding. But, we are planning on > > > adding more than 100,000 new educational books and materials to our > > > existing collection of over 34,000 titles. We are going to reach out to > > > every student, every family with a disabled student, and every school in > > > the U.S. to offer them the chance to join the Bookshare.org community > > > and transform the practice of making books accessible. We are going to > > > coordinate with schools and publishers to deliver the best quality > > > content possible and lower their costs in meeting our shared obligations > > > to serve every student with a disability in the nation. We expect to > > > provide millions of books to students through this new program over the > > > next five years, at a tenth or less of the historical cost of providing > > > these services. > > > > > > > > > And, we expect our improvements to serve all of these students will make > > > Bookshare.org better for all of our Bookshare.org users. > > > Bookshare.org's track record of being highly responsive to our members > > > will be enhanced with significant funding to implement major > > > improvements to our content and services. > > > > > > Our volunteer community is an essential part of what made this grant > > > possible, and you are a crucial part to making this a success in the > > > future. Your commitment to our shared vision of better access to > > > information is core to where we are heading. > > > > > > We want to make equal access to educational materials for disabled > > > students a reality! > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > Jim Fruchterman > > > > > > President and CEO > > > > > > Benetech > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Tue Oct 2 14:10:13 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <1191357719.822865.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> References: <014f01c8052e$bf2ed0d0$3d8c7270$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> <1191357719.822865.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <017c01c80538$a8f40150$fadc03f0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Not many, most DS office have not even begun to understand the complexities of this conversation. That is part of why I have been doing the trainings that I have been doing for the last two years. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 4:42 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Ron. "due to the fact that they are using a Chafee based definition of print disability" How many DS offices do you think understand this distinction? James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:59:22 -0400, "Ron Stewart" wrote: > > > Based on the conditions of the RFP Postsecondary has to be included but due to the fact that they are using a Chafee based definition of print disability a lot of students are left in the dust. > > Ron Stewart > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Murphy > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:59 PM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > > > > No community colleges or 4 year institutions. Still leaving us out. > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Ford > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:36 AM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > > > > Apologies if this was posted here already. I didn't see it on the list. > > Kelly > > > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Friendly > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:22 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@freelists.org; bookshare-discuss@freelists.org > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > Forwarded from Jim Fruchterman: > > I'm happy to share incredible news, which will transform Bookshare.org. > On Friday, the Office of Special Education Programs of the U.S. federal > Department of Education made a major five-year award of $32 million to > Bookshare.org. > > This funding is to fully support all schools and students with > qualifying print disabilities in the United States, K-12 and > post-secondary, with access to the entire Bookshare.org collection of > accessible electronic books and to software for reading those books. As > of October 1, 2007, we will cease charging these schools and students > anything to join Bookshare.org as members. > > In this initial news flash, I can't begin to share with you all of our > plans for Bookshare.org now with this funding. But, we are planning on > adding more than 100,000 new educational books and materials to our > existing collection of over 34,000 titles. We are going to reach out to > every student, every family with a disabled student, and every school in > the U.S. to offer them the chance to join the Bookshare.org community > and transform the practice of making books accessible. We are going to > coordinate with schools and publishers to deliver the best quality > content possible and lower their costs in meeting our shared obligations > to serve every student with a disability in the nation. We expect to > provide millions of books to students through this new program over the > next five years, at a tenth or less of the historical cost of providing > these services. > > > And, we expect our improvements to serve all of these students will make > Bookshare.org better for all of our Bookshare.org users. > Bookshare.org's track record of being highly responsive to our members > will be enhanced with significant funding to implement major > improvements to our content and services. > > Our volunteer community is an essential part of what made this grant > possible, and you are a crucial part to making this a success in the > future. Your commitment to our shared vision of better access to > information is core to where we are heading. > > We want to make equal access to educational materials for disabled > students a reality! > > Jim > > Jim Fruchterman > > President and CEO > > Benetech > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From djbrky at bu.edu Tue Oct 2 17:12:28 2007 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org References: <014f01c8052e$bf2ed0d0$3d8c7270$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> <1191357719.822865.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C7116031C7095@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> Unfortunately -- not very many. The membership of ATHEN is the most knowledgeable of the postsecondary disability professions and there are certainly many of our members who do not fully understand Chaffee and many of the other K-12 regulations. I am excited by the Bookshare news -- but once again have to resign myself that it simply might not impact my day to day operations -- at least in the short term. ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of James Bailey Sent: Tue 10/2/2007 4:41 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Ron. "due to the fact that they are using a Chafee based definition of print disability" How many DS offices do you think understand this distinction? James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:59:22 -0400, "Ron Stewart" wrote: > > > Based on the conditions of the RFP Postsecondary has to be included but due to the fact that they are using a Chafee based definition of print disability a lot of students are left in the dust. > > Ron Stewart > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Murphy > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:59 PM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > > > > No community colleges or 4 year institutions. Still leaving us out. > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Ford > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:36 AM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > > > > Apologies if this was posted here already. I didn't see it on the list. > > Kelly > > > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Friendly > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:22 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@freelists.org; bookshare-discuss@freelists.org > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > Forwarded from Jim Fruchterman: > > I'm happy to share incredible news, which will transform Bookshare.org. > On Friday, the Office of Special Education Programs of the U.S. federal > Department of Education made a major five-year award of $32 million to > Bookshare.org. > > This funding is to fully support all schools and students with > qualifying print disabilities in the United States, K-12 and > post-secondary, with access to the entire Bookshare.org collection of > accessible electronic books and to software for reading those books. As > of October 1, 2007, we will cease charging these schools and students > anything to join Bookshare.org as members. > > In this initial news flash, I can't begin to share with you all of our > plans for Bookshare.org now with this funding. But, we are planning on > adding more than 100,000 new educational books and materials to our > existing collection of over 34,000 titles. We are going to reach out to > every student, every family with a disabled student, and every school in > the U.S. to offer them the chance to join the Bookshare.org community > and transform the practice of making books accessible. We are going to > coordinate with schools and publishers to deliver the best quality > content possible and lower their costs in meeting our shared obligations > to serve every student with a disability in the nation. We expect to > provide millions of books to students through this new program over the > next five years, at a tenth or less of the historical cost of providing > these services. > > > And, we expect our improvements to serve all of these students will make > Bookshare.org better for all of our Bookshare.org users. > Bookshare.org's track record of being highly responsive to our members > will be enhanced with significant funding to implement major > improvements to our content and services. > > Our volunteer community is an essential part of what made this grant > possible, and you are a crucial part to making this a success in the > future. Your commitment to our shared vision of better access to > information is core to where we are heading. > > We want to make equal access to educational materials for disabled > students a reality! > > Jim > > Jim Fruchterman > > President and CEO > > Benetech > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From accessible.text at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 09:02:19 2007 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. Message-ID: <9edf8160710030902p7992ec7bj3b728700547ca35b@mail.gmail.com> The $32 million given to Bookshare certainly speaks well about their ability to score big grants, but I remain skeptical about the substance of this award. I'm waiting to get a copy of the proposal from the DoE, but I'd like to offer a few cautionary observations. Bookshare doesn't have much experience with textbooks. Their collection is primarily novels, mysteries, sci-fi, and romance. They are going to need serious upgrades to their infrastructure, and much better relations with educational publishers, both of which money can buy. They rely heavily on volunteers, as does RFB&D, but volunteers don't really enjoy textbooks (As a former studio director for RFB&D, I should know). Bookshare will have to hire staff with educational publishing experience. Saying they "expect to add over 100,000 new educational titles in high quality DAISY and Braille formats over the next five years", is a dubious claim, for several reasons. First, its not the size of the collection that's important (RFB&D had 100,000+ titles before they went digital), it's speed and specificity - having the right book at the right time. Second, textbooks present challenges to Braille production that require skilled human transcribers, not just automatic translation, and the issue of tactile graphics must be addressed. Third, DAISY/NIMAS textbooks also have plenty of challenges that have yet to be dealt with, and students are going to need major amounts of training and support to make effective use of them. Math, and other symbolic texts, remain a huge challenge. The point is, to succeed with this grant, Bookshare will have to transform itself from a cozy, volunteer community in to a professional provider of professional services. They will try to have it both ways, but it wont work. From obriemic at hvcc.edu Wed Oct 3 09:33:16 2007 From: obriemic at hvcc.edu (Michael O'Brien) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. In-Reply-To: <9edf8160710030902p7992ec7bj3b728700547ca35b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710031633.AID99832@hvcc.edu> All good points, except Bookshare doesn't merely scan books, it cleans them up. Mike -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:02 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. The $32 million given to Bookshare certainly speaks well about their ability to score big grants, but I remain skeptical about the substance of this award. I'm waiting to get a copy of the proposal from the DoE, but I'd like to offer a few cautionary observations. Bookshare doesn't have much experience with textbooks. Their collection is primarily novels, mysteries, sci-fi, and romance. They are going to need serious upgrades to their infrastructure, and much better relations with educational publishers, both of which money can buy. They rely heavily on volunteers, as does RFB&D, but volunteers don't really enjoy textbooks (As a former studio director for RFB&D, I should know). Bookshare will have to hire staff with educational publishing experience. Saying they "expect to add over 100,000 new educational titles in high quality DAISY and Braille formats over the next five years", is a dubious claim, for several reasons. First, its not the size of the collection that's important (RFB&D had 100,000+ titles before they went digital), it's speed and specificity - having the right book at the right time. Second, textbooks present challenges to Braille production that require skilled human transcribers, not just automatic translation, and the issue of tactile graphics must be addressed. Third, DAISY/NIMAS textbooks also have plenty of challenges that have yet to be dealt with, and students are going to need major amounts of training and support to make effective use of them. Math, and other symbolic texts, remain a huge challenge. The point is, to succeed with this grant, Bookshare will have to transform itself from a cozy, volunteer community in to a professional provider of professional services. They will try to have it both ways, but it wont work. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From rbeach at kckcc.edu Wed Oct 3 10:08:08 2007 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. In-Reply-To: <200710031633.AID99832@hvcc.edu> References: <9edf8160710030902p7992ec7bj3b728700547ca35b@mail.gmail.com> <200710031633.AID99832@hvcc.edu> Message-ID: <47038628020000CF00002B0B@mymail.kckcc.edu> Another point to remember is that BookShare is already partnering with colleges and universities to collect their scanned books. So, they may not necessarily have to hire staff who are knowledgeable in textbook publishing in order to produce good quality books. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Michael O'Brien" 10/3/2007 11:33 AM >>> All good points, except Bookshare doesn't merely scan books, it cleans them up. Mike -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:02 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. The $32 million given to Bookshare certainly speaks well about their ability to score big grants, but I remain skeptical about the substance of this award. I'm waiting to get a copy of the proposal from the DoE, but I'd like to offer a few cautionary observations. Bookshare doesn't have much experience with textbooks. Their collection is primarily novels, mysteries, sci-fi, and romance. They are going to need serious upgrades to their infrastructure, and much better relations with educational publishers, both of which money can buy. They rely heavily on volunteers, as does RFB&D, but volunteers don't really enjoy textbooks (As a former studio director for RFB&D, I should know). Bookshare will have to hire staff with educational publishing experience. Saying they "expect to add over 100,000 new educational titles in high quality DAISY and Braille formats over the next five years", is a dubious claim, for several reasons. First, its not the size of the collection that's important (RFB&D had 100,000+ titles before they went digital), it's speed and specificity - having the right book at the right time. Second, textbooks present challenges to Braille production that require skilled human transcribers, not just automatic translation, and the issue of tactile graphics must be addressed. Third, DAISY/NIMAS textbooks also have plenty of challenges that have yet to be dealt with, and students are going to need major amounts of training and support to make effective use of them. Math, and other symbolic texts, remain a huge challenge. The point is, to succeed with this grant, Bookshare will have to transform itself from a cozy, volunteer community in to a professional provider of professional services. They will try to have it both ways, but it wont work. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From kestrell at panix.com Wed Oct 3 10:18:52 2007 From: kestrell at panix.com (Kestrell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. References: <9edf8160710030902p7992ec7bj3b728700547ca35b@mail.gmail.com><200710031633.AID99832@hvcc.edu> <47038628020000CF00002B0B@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <001001c805e1$78fe6ea0$05fea8c0@Galatea> Another point to keep in mind is that one of Bookshare's strengths is its reader volunteers. Many of these readers are college students and college graduates who are far more knowledgeable about digital formats and formatting concerns than the DSS providers to whom they have to keep explaining about new tech. I say this as a former student who had to often explain to the DSS office about scanning technology like Kurzweil, converting text to Daisy or mp3, etc. Bookshare just released its first manual for scanning and formatting books, and I expect this will become increasingly sophisticated as time goes on. Kestrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Beach" To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. > Another point to remember is that BookShare is already partnering with > colleges and universities to collect their scanned books. So, they may > not necessarily have to hire staff who are knowledgeable in textbook > publishing in order to produce good quality books. > > > > Robert Lee Beach > Assistive Technology Specialist > Kansas City Kansas Community College > 7250 State Avenue > Kansas City, KS 66112 > Phone: (913) 288-7671 > Fax: (913) 288-7678 > E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu > >>>> "Michael O'Brien" 10/3/2007 11:33 AM >>> > All good points, except Bookshare doesn't merely scan books, it cleans > them > up. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:02 PM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. > > The $32 million given to Bookshare certainly speaks well about their > ability > to score big grants, but I remain skeptical about the substance of this > award. I'm waiting to get a copy of the proposal from the DoE, but I'd > like > to offer a few cautionary observations. > > Bookshare doesn't have much experience with textbooks. Their collection is > primarily novels, mysteries, sci-fi, and romance. They are going to need > serious upgrades to their infrastructure, and much better relations with > educational publishers, both of which money can buy. > > They rely heavily on volunteers, as does RFB&D, but volunteers don't > really > enjoy textbooks (As a former studio director for RFB&D, I should know). > Bookshare will have to hire staff with educational publishing experience. > > Saying they "expect to add over 100,000 new educational titles in high > quality DAISY and Braille formats over the next five years", is a dubious > claim, for several reasons. > > First, its not the size of the collection that's important (RFB&D had > 100,000+ titles before they went digital), it's speed and specificity > - having the right book at the right time. > > Second, textbooks present challenges to Braille production that require > skilled human transcribers, not just automatic translation, and the issue > of > tactile graphics must be addressed. > > Third, DAISY/NIMAS textbooks also have plenty of challenges that have yet > to > be dealt with, and students are going to need major amounts of training > and > support to make effective use of them. Math, and other symbolic texts, > remain a huge challenge. > > The point is, to succeed with this grant, Bookshare will have to transform > itself from a cozy, volunteer community in to a professional provider of > professional services. They will try to have it both ways, but it wont > work. > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jbailey at uoregon.edu Wed Oct 3 10:45:00 2007 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. In-Reply-To: <001001c805e1$78fe6ea0$05fea8c0@Galatea> References: <001001c805e1$78fe6ea0$05fea8c0@Galatea> Message-ID: <1191433500.677813.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> How do we get a copy of the Bookshare scanning/formatting manual? /jb -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:18:52 -0400, "Kestrell" wrote: > Another point to keep in mind is that one of Bookshare's strengths is its > reader volunteers. Many of these readers are college students and college > graduates who are far more knowledgeable about digital formats and > formatting concerns than the DSS providers to whom they have to keep > explaining about new tech. I say this as a former student who had to often > explain to the DSS office about scanning technology like Kurzweil, > converting text to Daisy or mp3, etc. Bookshare just released its first > manual for scanning and formatting books, and I expect this will become > increasingly sophisticated as time goes on. > > Kestrell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Beach" > To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. > > > > Another point to remember is that BookShare is already partnering with > > colleges and universities to collect their scanned books. So, they may > > not necessarily have to hire staff who are knowledgeable in textbook > > publishing in order to produce good quality books. > > > > > > > > Robert Lee Beach > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Kansas City Kansas Community College > > 7250 State Avenue > > Kansas City, KS 66112 > > Phone: (913) 288-7671 > > Fax: (913) 288-7678 > > E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu > > > >>>> "Michael O'Brien" 10/3/2007 11:33 AM >>> > > All good points, except Bookshare doesn't merely scan books, it cleans > > them > > up. > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:02 PM > > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. > > > > The $32 million given to Bookshare certainly speaks well about their > > ability > > to score big grants, but I remain skeptical about the substance of this > > award. I'm waiting to get a copy of the proposal from the DoE, but I'd > > like > > to offer a few cautionary observations. > > > > Bookshare doesn't have much experience with textbooks. Their collection is > > primarily novels, mysteries, sci-fi, and romance. They are going to need > > serious upgrades to their infrastructure, and much better relations with > > educational publishers, both of which money can buy. > > > > They rely heavily on volunteers, as does RFB&D, but volunteers don't > > really > > enjoy textbooks (As a former studio director for RFB&D, I should know). > > Bookshare will have to hire staff with educational publishing experience. > > > > Saying they "expect to add over 100,000 new educational titles in high > > quality DAISY and Braille formats over the next five years", is a dubious > > claim, for several reasons. > > > > First, its not the size of the collection that's important (RFB&D had > > 100,000+ titles before they went digital), it's speed and specificity > > - having the right book at the right time. > > > > Second, textbooks present challenges to Braille production that require > > skilled human transcribers, not just automatic translation, and the issue > > of > > tactile graphics must be addressed. > > > > Third, DAISY/NIMAS textbooks also have plenty of challenges that have yet > > to > > be dealt with, and students are going to need major amounts of training > > and > > support to make effective use of them. Math, and other symbolic texts, > > remain a huge challenge. > > > > The point is, to succeed with this grant, Bookshare will have to transform > > itself from a cozy, volunteer community in to a professional provider of > > professional services. They will try to have it both ways, but it wont > > work. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From accessible.text at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 10:56:47 2007 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. In-Reply-To: <1191433500.677813.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> References: <001001c805e1$78fe6ea0$05fea8c0@Galatea> <1191433500.677813.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <9edf8160710031056v15c4f7fcn4258b08c3ed401cd@mail.gmail.com> I appreciate the feedback. I'm not saying Bookshare wont do good things with this money, but big money can lead to big disappointment. There needs to be accountability and feedback - something which the government doesn't always do well, bless their bureaucratic little hearts. On 10/3/07, James Bailey wrote: > > How do we get a copy of the Bookshare scanning/formatting manual? /jb > > -- > James Bailey > Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon > 1299 University of Oregon > Eugene, OR 97403-1299 > Office: 541-346-1076 > jbailey@uoregon.edu > > On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:18:52 -0400, "Kestrell" wrote: > > Another point to keep in mind is that one of Bookshare's strengths is its > > reader volunteers. Many of these readers are college students and college > > graduates who are far more knowledgeable about digital formats and > > formatting concerns than the DSS providers to whom they have to keep > > explaining about new tech. I say this as a former student who had to often > > explain to the DSS office about scanning technology like Kurzweil, > > converting text to Daisy or mp3, etc. Bookshare just released its first > > manual for scanning and formatting books, and I expect this will become > > increasingly sophisticated as time goes on. > > > > Kestrell > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert Beach" > > To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:08 PM > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. > > > > > > > Another point to remember is that BookShare is already partnering with > > > colleges and universities to collect their scanned books. So, they may > > > not necessarily have to hire staff who are knowledgeable in textbook > > > publishing in order to produce good quality books. > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Lee Beach > > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > > Kansas City Kansas Community College > > > 7250 State Avenue > > > Kansas City, KS 66112 > > > Phone: (913) 288-7671 > > > Fax: (913) 288-7678 > > > E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu > > > > > >>>> "Michael O'Brien" 10/3/2007 11:33 AM >>> > > > All good points, except Bookshare doesn't merely scan books, it cleans > > > them > > > up. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > > > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:02 PM > > > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > > Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. > > > > > > The $32 million given to Bookshare certainly speaks well about their > > > ability > > > to score big grants, but I remain skeptical about the substance of this > > > award. I'm waiting to get a copy of the proposal from the DoE, but I'd > > > like > > > to offer a few cautionary observations. > > > > > > Bookshare doesn't have much experience with textbooks. Their collection is > > > primarily novels, mysteries, sci-fi, and romance. They are going to need > > > serious upgrades to their infrastructure, and much better relations with > > > educational publishers, both of which money can buy. > > > > > > They rely heavily on volunteers, as does RFB&D, but volunteers don't > > > really > > > enjoy textbooks (As a former studio director for RFB&D, I should know). > > > Bookshare will have to hire staff with educational publishing experience. > > > > > > Saying they "expect to add over 100,000 new educational titles in high > > > quality DAISY and Braille formats over the next five years", is a dubious > > > claim, for several reasons. > > > > > > First, its not the size of the collection that's important (RFB&D had > > > 100,000+ titles before they went digital), it's speed and specificity > > > - having the right book at the right time. > > > > > > Second, textbooks present challenges to Braille production that require > > > skilled human transcribers, not just automatic translation, and the issue > > > of > > > tactile graphics must be addressed. > > > > > > Third, DAISY/NIMAS textbooks also have plenty of challenges that have yet > > > to > > > be dealt with, and students are going to need major amounts of training > > > and > > > support to make effective use of them. Math, and other symbolic texts, > > > remain a huge challenge. > > > > > > The point is, to succeed with this grant, Bookshare will have to transform > > > itself from a cozy, volunteer community in to a professional provider of > > > professional services. They will try to have it both ways, but it wont > > > work. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Athen mailing list > > > Athen@athenpro.org > > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Athen mailing list > > > Athen@athenpro.org > > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Athen mailing list > > > Athen@athenpro.org > > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From FosterS at sou.edu Wed Oct 3 11:02:31 2007 From: FosterS at sou.edu (Shawn Foster) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. In-Reply-To: <1191433500.677813.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> References: <001001c805e1$78fe6ea0$05fea8c0@Galatea> <1191433500.677813.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <470376C7.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> All of this is academic, as far as I'm concerned, until they change their website to reflect the "free" status for postsecondary institutions requesting texts for their students. That's why we haven't joined before... didn't want to be nickel-and-dimed to death purchasing subscriptions for a number of different providers. Once they do that, I'd be happy to see what they're offering! With all the different types of formats our students need, I'm sure we'll be able to find some matches at Bookshare - and that's texts that I don't have to scan and convert!!! Shawn Foster Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Services for Students Southern Oregon University email: fosters@sou.edu phone: (541)552-6213 >>> On 10/3/2007 at 10:45 AM, in message <1191433500.677813.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu>, "James Bailey" wrote: How do we get a copy of the Bookshare scanning/formatting manual? /jb -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:18:52 -0400, "Kestrell" wrote: > Another point to keep in mind is that one of Bookshare's strengths is its > reader volunteers. Many of these readers are college students and college > graduates who are far more knowledgeable about digital formats and > formatting concerns than the DSS providers to whom they have to keep > explaining about new tech. I say this as a former student who had to often > explain to the DSS office about scanning technology like Kurzweil, > converting text to Daisy or mp3, etc. Bookshare just released its first > manual for scanning and formatting books, and I expect this will become > increasingly sophisticated as time goes on. > > Kestrell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Beach" > To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. > > > > Another point to remember is that BookShare is already partnering with > > colleges and universities to collect their scanned books. So, they may > > not necessarily have to hire staff who are knowledgeable in textbook > > publishing in order to produce good quality books. > > > > > > > > Robert Lee Beach > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Kansas City Kansas Community College > > 7250 State Avenue > > Kansas City, KS 66112 > > Phone: (913) 288-7671 > > Fax: (913) 288-7678 > > E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu > > > >>>> "Michael O'Brien" 10/3/2007 11:33 AM >>> > > All good points, except Bookshare doesn't merely scan books, it cleans > > them > > up. > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:02 PM > > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. > > > > The $32 million given to Bookshare certainly speaks well about their > > ability > > to score big grants, but I remain skeptical about the substance of this > > award. I'm waiting to get a copy of the proposal from the DoE, but I'd > > like > > to offer a few cautionary observations. > > > > Bookshare doesn't have much experience with textbooks. Their collection is > > primarily novels, mysteries, sci-fi, and romance. They are going to need > > serious upgrades to their infrastructure, and much better relations with > > educational publishers, both of which money can buy. > > > > They rely heavily on volunteers, as does RFB&D, but volunteers don't > > really > > enjoy textbooks (As a former studio director for RFB&D, I should know). > > Bookshare will have to hire staff with educational publishing experience. > > > > Saying they "expect to add over 100,000 new educational titles in high > > quality DAISY and Braille formats over the next five years", is a dubious > > claim, for several reasons. > > > > First, its not the size of the collection that's important (RFB&D had > > 100,000+ titles before they went digital), it's speed and specificity > > - having the right book at the right time. > > > > Second, textbooks present challenges to Braille production that require > > skilled human transcribers, not just automatic translation, and the issue > > of > > tactile graphics must be addressed. > > > > Third, DAISY/NIMAS textbooks also have plenty of challenges that have yet > > to > > be dealt with, and students are going to need major amounts of training > > and > > support to make effective use of them. Math, and other symbolic texts, > > remain a huge challenge. > > > > The point is, to succeed with this grant, Bookshare will have to transform > > itself from a cozy, volunteer community in to a professional provider of > > professional services. 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URL: From obriemic at hvcc.edu Wed Oct 3 11:16:10 2007 From: obriemic at hvcc.edu (Michael O'Brien) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. In-Reply-To: <47038628020000CF00002B0B@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <200710031816.AIE02353@hvcc.edu> Also true! Thanks for reminding of that! Mike -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. Another point to remember is that BookShare is already partnering with colleges and universities to collect their scanned books. So, they may not necessarily have to hire staff who are knowledgeable in textbook publishing in order to produce good quality books. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Michael O'Brien" 10/3/2007 11:33 AM >>> All good points, except Bookshare doesn't merely scan books, it cleans them up. Mike -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:02 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. The $32 million given to Bookshare certainly speaks well about their ability to score big grants, but I remain skeptical about the substance of this award. I'm waiting to get a copy of the proposal from the DoE, but I'd like to offer a few cautionary observations. Bookshare doesn't have much experience with textbooks. Their collection is primarily novels, mysteries, sci-fi, and romance. They are going to need serious upgrades to their infrastructure, and much better relations with educational publishers, both of which money can buy. They rely heavily on volunteers, as does RFB&D, but volunteers don't really enjoy textbooks (As a former studio director for RFB&D, I should know). Bookshare will have to hire staff with educational publishing experience. Saying they "expect to add over 100,000 new educational titles in high quality DAISY and Braille formats over the next five years", is a dubious claim, for several reasons. First, its not the size of the collection that's important (RFB&D had 100,000+ titles before they went digital), it's speed and specificity - having the right book at the right time. Second, textbooks present challenges to Braille production that require skilled human transcribers, not just automatic translation, and the issue of tactile graphics must be addressed. Third, DAISY/NIMAS textbooks also have plenty of challenges that have yet to be dealt with, and students are going to need major amounts of training and support to make effective use of them. Math, and other symbolic texts, remain a huge challenge. The point is, to succeed with this grant, Bookshare will have to transform itself from a cozy, volunteer community in to a professional provider of professional services. They will try to have it both ways, but it wont work. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From marks at mso.umt.edu Wed Oct 3 11:40:51 2007 From: marks at mso.umt.edu (Marks, Jim) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <9edf8160710021359n6a524883p255e8b191f844c52@mail.gmail.com> References: <1191357719.822865.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> <9edf8160710021359n6a524883p255e8b191f844c52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7A62BCE4@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Bob, I am surprised by your comments, and I would urge you to elaborate some more in case I'm misunderstanding you. Shouldn't any library be able to offer its holdings for free? Why should people with disabilities be singled out with requirements like being forced to purchase a print book we cannot use just to get a book we can read? I've never understood this ethic well, especially when one considers that the cost of converting a book to a truly usable format is almost always far more expensive than the market value of the print book. I've heard all the arguments that the proof of purchase bit is a good thing, but it's at best a gesture. And it's a gesture that ought not keep people from information solely because of a print disability. The property rights boogieman is a tool of oppression. It's entirely possible for civil rights and property rights to co-exist. I want to go to my library and read it's materials for free. That's what most people want from a library, print disabled or not. For whatever it's worth, I think the grant will create more accessibility all across the nation. The money will drive the improvements, and the Bookshare folks are well aware of the challenges they face in stepping up their services. My office has been contributing e-text to Bookshare for several years now. Our contribution numbers are not huge, but this grant will entrench Bookshare more deeply in the post-secondary world. I'll bet more colleges will be contributing soon, and that publishers will be doing the same. It's not going to be "the" answer by a long shot, but the grant is pretty good news if you're a student with a print disability. Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:00 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org I think this grant could finally wake up educational publishers to the reality that the government is paying a middle-man to give away the publishers intellectual property. There is no stipulation from Bookshare that students have to buy their books in order to receive their services, so they will be getting their materials free. Not a bad deal for students, but it will rankle publishers. From kestrell at panix.com Wed Oct 3 12:02:27 2007 From: kestrell at panix.com (Kestrell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Bookshare manual was ] Great news, for Bookshare. References: <001001c805e1$78fe6ea0$05fea8c0@Galatea> <1191433500.677813.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <001801c805ef$f14f7c60$05fea8c0@Galatea> Here is the link to the manual. It is also downloadable, though I had to log in and go to the volunteer page before I could find the link, which was named "Volunteer Manual." http://www.bookshare.org/web/VMMain.html Kes ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bailey" To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. > > How do we get a copy of the Bookshare scanning/formatting manual? /jb > > -- > James Bailey > Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon > 1299 University of Oregon > Eugene, OR 97403-1299 > Office: 541-346-1076 > jbailey@uoregon.edu > > On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:18:52 -0400, "Kestrell" wrote: >> Another point to keep in mind is that one of Bookshare's strengths is its >> reader volunteers. Many of these readers are college students and college >> graduates who are far more knowledgeable about digital formats and >> formatting concerns than the DSS providers to whom they have to keep >> explaining about new tech. I say this as a former student who had to >> often >> explain to the DSS office about scanning technology like Kurzweil, >> converting text to Daisy or mp3, etc. Bookshare just released its first >> manual for scanning and formatting books, and I expect this will become >> increasingly sophisticated as time goes on. >> >> Kestrell >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Beach" >> To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" >> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. >> >> >> > Another point to remember is that BookShare is already partnering with >> > colleges and universities to collect their scanned books. So, they may >> > not necessarily have to hire staff who are knowledgeable in textbook >> > publishing in order to produce good quality books. >> > >> > >> > >> > Robert Lee Beach >> > Assistive Technology Specialist >> > Kansas City Kansas Community College >> > 7250 State Avenue >> > Kansas City, KS 66112 >> > Phone: (913) 288-7671 >> > Fax: (913) 288-7678 >> > E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >> > >> >>>> "Michael O'Brien" 10/3/2007 11:33 AM >>> >> > All good points, except Bookshare doesn't merely scan books, it cleans >> > them >> > up. >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >> > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:02 PM >> > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> > Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. >> > >> > The $32 million given to Bookshare certainly speaks well about their >> > ability >> > to score big grants, but I remain skeptical about the substance of this >> > award. I'm waiting to get a copy of the proposal from the DoE, but I'd >> > like >> > to offer a few cautionary observations. >> > >> > Bookshare doesn't have much experience with textbooks. Their collection >> > is >> > primarily novels, mysteries, sci-fi, and romance. They are going to >> > need >> > serious upgrades to their infrastructure, and much better relations >> > with >> > educational publishers, both of which money can buy. >> > >> > They rely heavily on volunteers, as does RFB&D, but volunteers don't >> > really >> > enjoy textbooks (As a former studio director for RFB&D, I should know). >> > Bookshare will have to hire staff with educational publishing >> > experience. >> > >> > Saying they "expect to add over 100,000 new educational titles in high >> > quality DAISY and Braille formats over the next five years", is a >> > dubious >> > claim, for several reasons. >> > >> > First, its not the size of the collection that's important (RFB&D had >> > 100,000+ titles before they went digital), it's speed and specificity >> > - having the right book at the right time. >> > >> > Second, textbooks present challenges to Braille production that require >> > skilled human transcribers, not just automatic translation, and the >> > issue >> > of >> > tactile graphics must be addressed. >> > >> > Third, DAISY/NIMAS textbooks also have plenty of challenges that have >> > yet >> > to >> > be dealt with, and students are going to need major amounts of training >> > and >> > support to make effective use of them. Math, and other symbolic texts, >> > remain a huge challenge. >> > >> > The point is, to succeed with this grant, Bookshare will have to >> > transform >> > itself from a cozy, volunteer community in to a professional provider >> > of >> > professional services. They will try to have it both ways, but it wont >> > work. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Athen mailing list >> > Athen@athenpro.org >> > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Athen mailing list >> > Athen@athenpro.org >> > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Athen mailing list >> > Athen@athenpro.org >> > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From dmurphy at collegeofthedesert.edu Wed Oct 3 12:07:40 2007 From: dmurphy at collegeofthedesert.edu (Daryl Murphy) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Bookshare manual was ] Great news, for Bookshare. In-Reply-To: <001801c805ef$f14f7c60$05fea8c0@Galatea> References: <001001c805e1$78fe6ea0$05fea8c0@Galatea><1191433500.677813.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> <001801c805ef$f14f7c60$05fea8c0@Galatea> Message-ID: <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC74775D@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> Opps, sorry but you still need to log in to get there. How about saving the html page to a pdf or word doc and then post it. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kestrell Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:02 To: James Bailey; Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Bookshare manual was ] Great news, for Bookshare. Here is the link to the manual. It is also downloadable, though I had to log in and go to the volunteer page before I could find the link, which was named "Volunteer Manual." http://www.bookshare.org/web/VMMain.html Kes ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bailey" To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. > > How do we get a copy of the Bookshare scanning/formatting manual? /jb > > -- > James Bailey > Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon > 1299 University of Oregon > Eugene, OR 97403-1299 > Office: 541-346-1076 > jbailey@uoregon.edu > > On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:18:52 -0400, "Kestrell" wrote: >> Another point to keep in mind is that one of Bookshare's strengths is its >> reader volunteers. Many of these readers are college students and college >> graduates who are far more knowledgeable about digital formats and >> formatting concerns than the DSS providers to whom they have to keep >> explaining about new tech. I say this as a former student who had to >> often >> explain to the DSS office about scanning technology like Kurzweil, >> converting text to Daisy or mp3, etc. Bookshare just released its first >> manual for scanning and formatting books, and I expect this will become >> increasingly sophisticated as time goes on. >> >> Kestrell >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Beach" >> To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" >> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. >> >> >> > Another point to remember is that BookShare is already partnering with >> > colleges and universities to collect their scanned books. So, they may >> > not necessarily have to hire staff who are knowledgeable in textbook >> > publishing in order to produce good quality books. >> > >> > >> > >> > Robert Lee Beach >> > Assistive Technology Specialist >> > Kansas City Kansas Community College >> > 7250 State Avenue >> > Kansas City, KS 66112 >> > Phone: (913) 288-7671 >> > Fax: (913) 288-7678 >> > E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >> > >> >>>> "Michael O'Brien" 10/3/2007 11:33 AM >>> >> > All good points, except Bookshare doesn't merely scan books, it cleans >> > them >> > up. >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >> > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:02 PM >> > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> > Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. >> > >> > The $32 million given to Bookshare certainly speaks well about their >> > ability >> > to score big grants, but I remain skeptical about the substance of this >> > award. I'm waiting to get a copy of the proposal from the DoE, but I'd >> > like >> > to offer a few cautionary observations. >> > >> > Bookshare doesn't have much experience with textbooks. Their collection >> > is >> > primarily novels, mysteries, sci-fi, and romance. They are going to >> > need >> > serious upgrades to their infrastructure, and much better relations >> > with >> > educational publishers, both of which money can buy. >> > >> > They rely heavily on volunteers, as does RFB&D, but volunteers don't >> > really >> > enjoy textbooks (As a former studio director for RFB&D, I should know). >> > Bookshare will have to hire staff with educational publishing >> > experience. >> > >> > Saying they "expect to add over 100,000 new educational titles in high >> > quality DAISY and Braille formats over the next five years", is a >> > dubious >> > claim, for several reasons. >> > >> > First, its not the size of the collection that's important (RFB&D had >> > 100,000+ titles before they went digital), it's speed and specificity >> > - having the right book at the right time. >> > >> > Second, textbooks present challenges to Braille production that require >> > skilled human transcribers, not just automatic translation, and the >> > issue >> > of >> > tactile graphics must be addressed. >> > >> > Third, DAISY/NIMAS textbooks also have plenty of challenges that have >> > yet >> > to >> > be dealt with, and students are going to need major amounts of training >> > and >> > support to make effective use of them. Math, and other symbolic texts, >> > remain a huge challenge. >> > >> > The point is, to succeed with this grant, Bookshare will have to >> > transform >> > itself from a cozy, volunteer community in to a professional provider >> > of >> > professional services. They will try to have it both ways, but it wont >> > work. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Athen mailing list >> > Athen@athenpro.org >> > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Athen mailing list >> > Athen@athenpro.org >> > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Athen mailing list >> > Athen@athenpro.org >> > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From accessible.text at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 12:29:44 2007 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7A62BCE4@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> References: <1191357719.822865.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> <9edf8160710021359n6a524883p255e8b191f844c52@mail.gmail.com> <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7A62BCE4@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: <9edf8160710031229y3bfb2b1fua34df361e325d83f@mail.gmail.com> Jim, I think you are confounding the appropriate roles of libraries and 'alternate media publishers' (I wrote a little essay about this on my blog: http://accessiblemedia.wordpress.com/culture-vs-copyright-re-examining-barriers-to-books-for-the-blind/ ). Libraries are wonderful places, but they are not free (its called taxation), and Bookshare is not a library. The DoE should have offered at least some money directly to publishers to make their electronic versions of textbooks accessible (you know, the ones we complain about on DSSHE for being inaccessible). You say the cost of converting a book is greater than the market value, well, the feds just provide $32 million in subsidies. The problem is, it all went to a middle-man. Its easy to paint the big publishers as the 'boogieman', but they are the source of the material we want so badly to be accessible. So, logically, if you really want equal access, you need to go to the source. The publisher can be held accountable for the quality of their product - Bookshare can't be, and trust me, they wont be (just like RFB&D isn't). Remember, RFB&D has been around for over 50 years, with a strong donor and volunteer base, and a staff of hard working, dedicated people. They had over 100,000 books in their catalog (until they went digital). Yet, they simply cant meet the demand. This DoE grant is a band-aid that will prolong the problem, not solve it. Cheers, Bob On 10/3/07, Marks, Jim wrote: > Bob, I am surprised by your comments, and I would urge you to elaborate > some more in case I'm misunderstanding you. Shouldn't any library be > able to offer its holdings for free? Why should people with > disabilities be singled out with requirements like being forced to > purchase a print book we cannot use just to get a book we can read? > I've never understood this ethic well, especially when one considers > that the cost of converting a book to a truly usable format is almost > always far more expensive than the market value of the print book. I've > heard all the arguments that the proof of purchase bit is a good thing, > but it's at best a gesture. And it's a gesture that ought not keep > people from information solely because of a print disability. The > property rights boogieman is a tool of oppression. It's entirely > possible for civil rights and property rights to co-exist. I want to go > to my library and read it's materials for free. That's what most people > want from a library, print disabled or not. > > For whatever it's worth, I think the grant will create more > accessibility all across the nation. The money will drive the > improvements, and the Bookshare folks are well aware of the challenges > they face in stepping up their services. My office has been > contributing e-text to Bookshare for several years now. Our > contribution numbers are not huge, but this grant will entrench > Bookshare more deeply in the post-secondary world. I'll bet more > colleges will be contributing soon, and that publishers will be doing > the same. It's not going to be "the" answer by a long shot, but the > grant is pretty good news if you're a student with a print disability. > > Jim Marks > Director of Disability Services > University of Montana > jim.marks@umontana.edu > http://www.umt.edu/dss/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:00 PM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > > I think this grant could finally wake up educational publishers to the > reality that the government is paying a middle-man to give away the > publishers intellectual property. > > There is no stipulation from Bookshare that students have to buy their > books in order to receive their services, so they will be getting their > materials free. Not a bad deal for students, but it will rankle > publishers. > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From kestrell at panix.com Wed Oct 3 12:38:17 2007 From: kestrell at panix.com (Kestrell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Bookshare manual was ] Great news, for Bookshare. References: <001001c805e1$78fe6ea0$05fea8c0@Galatea><1191433500.677813.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu><001801c805ef$f14f7c60$05fea8c0@Galatea> <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC74775D@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> Message-ID: <007b01c805f4$f2cab870$05fea8c0@Galatea> Perhaps this is going to seem ironic, but since this manual was not made publicly available from the main Bookshare.org page, and technical writing is usually considered to be copyrighted material, I am not sure I can publicly distribute this manual. Perhaps someone with more direct contact with Bookshare administrators could request that this manual should be made available on the main page? Kes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Murphy" To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Athen] Bookshare manual was ] Great news, for Bookshare. > Opps, sorry but you still need to log in to get there. How about saving > the html page to a pdf or word doc and then post it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Kestrell > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:02 > To: James Bailey; Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Bookshare manual was ] Great news, for Bookshare. > > Here is the link to the manual. It is also downloadable, though I had to > log > in and go to the volunteer page before I could find the link, which was > named "Volunteer Manual." > > http://www.bookshare.org/web/VMMain.html > > Kes > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Bailey" > To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. > > >> >> How do we get a copy of the Bookshare scanning/formatting manual? /jb >> >> -- >> James Bailey >> Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon >> 1299 University of Oregon >> Eugene, OR 97403-1299 >> Office: 541-346-1076 >> jbailey@uoregon.edu >> >> On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:18:52 -0400, "Kestrell" > wrote: >>> Another point to keep in mind is that one of Bookshare's strengths is > its >>> reader volunteers. Many of these readers are college students and > college >>> graduates who are far more knowledgeable about digital formats and >>> formatting concerns than the DSS providers to whom they have to keep >>> explaining about new tech. I say this as a former student who had to >>> often >>> explain to the DSS office about scanning technology like Kurzweil, >>> converting text to Daisy or mp3, etc. Bookshare just released its > first >>> manual for scanning and formatting books, and I expect this will > become >>> increasingly sophisticated as time goes on. >>> >>> Kestrell >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Robert Beach" >>> To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" >>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:08 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. >>> >>> >>> > Another point to remember is that BookShare is already partnering > with >>> > colleges and universities to collect their scanned books. So, they > may >>> > not necessarily have to hire staff who are knowledgeable in > textbook >>> > publishing in order to produce good quality books. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Robert Lee Beach >>> > Assistive Technology Specialist >>> > Kansas City Kansas Community College >>> > 7250 State Avenue >>> > Kansas City, KS 66112 >>> > Phone: (913) 288-7671 >>> > Fax: (913) 288-7678 >>> > E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> > >>> >>>> "Michael O'Brien" 10/3/2007 11:33 AM >>> >>> > All good points, except Bookshare doesn't merely scan books, it > cleans >>> > them >>> > up. >>> > >>> > Mike >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >>> > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo >>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:02 PM >>> > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >>> > Subject: [Athen] Great news, for Bookshare. >>> > >>> > The $32 million given to Bookshare certainly speaks well about > their >>> > ability >>> > to score big grants, but I remain skeptical about the substance of > this >>> > award. I'm waiting to get a copy of the proposal from the DoE, but > I'd >>> > like >>> > to offer a few cautionary observations. >>> > >>> > Bookshare doesn't have much experience with textbooks. Their > collection >>> > is >>> > primarily novels, mysteries, sci-fi, and romance. They are going to > >>> > need >>> > serious upgrades to their infrastructure, and much better relations > >>> > with >>> > educational publishers, both of which money can buy. >>> > >>> > They rely heavily on volunteers, as does RFB&D, but volunteers > don't >>> > really >>> > enjoy textbooks (As a former studio director for RFB&D, I should > know). >>> > Bookshare will have to hire staff with educational publishing >>> > experience. >>> > >>> > Saying they "expect to add over 100,000 new educational titles in > high >>> > quality DAISY and Braille formats over the next five years", is a >>> > dubious >>> > claim, for several reasons. >>> > >>> > First, its not the size of the collection that's important (RFB&D > had >>> > 100,000+ titles before they went digital), it's speed and > specificity >>> > - having the right book at the right time. >>> > >>> > Second, textbooks present challenges to Braille production that > require >>> > skilled human transcribers, not just automatic translation, and the > >>> > issue >>> > of >>> > tactile graphics must be addressed. >>> > >>> > Third, DAISY/NIMAS textbooks also have plenty of challenges that > have >>> > yet >>> > to >>> > be dealt with, and students are going to need major amounts of > training >>> > and >>> > support to make effective use of them. Math, and other symbolic > texts, >>> > remain a huge challenge. >>> > >>> > The point is, to succeed with this grant, Bookshare will have to >>> > transform >>> > itself from a cozy, volunteer community in to a professional > provider >>> > of >>> > professional services. They will try to have it both ways, but it > wont >>> > work. >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Athen mailing list >>> > Athen@athenpro.org >>> > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Athen mailing list >>> > Athen@athenpro.org >>> > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Athen mailing list >>> > Athen@athenpro.org >>> > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Athen mailing list >>> Athen@athenpro.org >>> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jeano at uwm.edu Wed Oct 3 12:46:30 2007 From: jeano at uwm.edu (Jean Salzer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Bookshare Message-ID: <4703F196.5080507@uwm.edu> All your points well taken and in general, agreed with - but here's what I really want to know: do I get a couple million if I agree to share my books with Bookshare? Will they give us $320 a book? Isn't that $32,000,000 divided by 100,000 titles? You know I'm all about sharing ;) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You know I'm all about sharing ;) From djbrky at bu.edu Wed Oct 3 13:23:51 2007 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org References: <1191357719.822865.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu><9edf8160710021359n6a524883p255e8b191f844c52@mail.gmail.com><14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7A62BCE4@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> <9edf8160710031229y3bfb2b1fua34df361e325d83f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C7116031C7099@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> Bob -- I do wish to be disparaging -- but your entire blog seems to be one posting...is this correct? ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of Robert Martinengo Sent: Wed 10/3/2007 3:29 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Jim, I think you are confounding the appropriate roles of libraries and 'alternate media publishers' (I wrote a little essay about this on my blog: http://accessiblemedia.wordpress.com/culture-vs-copyright-re-examining-barriers-to-books-for-the-blind/ ). Libraries are wonderful places, but they are not free (its called taxation), and Bookshare is not a library. The DoE should have offered at least some money directly to publishers to make their electronic versions of textbooks accessible (you know, the ones we complain about on DSSHE for being inaccessible). You say the cost of converting a book is greater than the market value, well, the feds just provide $32 million in subsidies. The problem is, it all went to a middle-man. Its easy to paint the big publishers as the 'boogieman', but they are the source of the material we want so badly to be accessible. So, logically, if you really want equal access, you need to go to the source. The publisher can be held accountable for the quality of their product - Bookshare can't be, and trust me, they wont be (just like RFB&D isn't). Remember, RFB&D has been around for over 50 years, with a strong donor and volunteer base, and a staff of hard working, dedicated people. They had over 100,000 books in their catalog (until they went digital). Yet, they simply cant meet the demand. This DoE grant is a band-aid that will prolong the problem, not solve it. Cheers, Bob On 10/3/07, Marks, Jim wrote: > Bob, I am surprised by your comments, and I would urge you to elaborate > some more in case I'm misunderstanding you. Shouldn't any library be > able to offer its holdings for free? Why should people with > disabilities be singled out with requirements like being forced to > purchase a print book we cannot use just to get a book we can read? > I've never understood this ethic well, especially when one considers > that the cost of converting a book to a truly usable format is almost > always far more expensive than the market value of the print book. I've > heard all the arguments that the proof of purchase bit is a good thing, > but it's at best a gesture. And it's a gesture that ought not keep > people from information solely because of a print disability. The > property rights boogieman is a tool of oppression. It's entirely > possible for civil rights and property rights to co-exist. I want to go > to my library and read it's materials for free. That's what most people > want from a library, print disabled or not. > > For whatever it's worth, I think the grant will create more > accessibility all across the nation. The money will drive the > improvements, and the Bookshare folks are well aware of the challenges > they face in stepping up their services. My office has been > contributing e-text to Bookshare for several years now. Our > contribution numbers are not huge, but this grant will entrench > Bookshare more deeply in the post-secondary world. I'll bet more > colleges will be contributing soon, and that publishers will be doing > the same. It's not going to be "the" answer by a long shot, but the > grant is pretty good news if you're a student with a print disability. > > Jim Marks > Director of Disability Services > University of Montana > jim.marks@umontana.edu > http://www.umt.edu/dss/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:00 PM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > > I think this grant could finally wake up educational publishers to the > reality that the government is paying a middle-man to give away the > publishers intellectual property. > > There is no stipulation from Bookshare that students have to buy their > books in order to receive their services, so they will be getting their > materials free. Not a bad deal for students, but it will rankle > publishers. > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From accessible.text at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 14:13:56 2007 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C7116031C7099@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> References: <1191357719.822865.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> <9edf8160710021359n6a524883p255e8b191f844c52@mail.gmail.com> <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7A62BCE4@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> <9edf8160710031229y3bfb2b1fua34df361e325d83f@mail.gmail.com> <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C7116031C7099@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> Message-ID: <9edf8160710031413q426d2086y67881d349e496c75@mail.gmail.com> There are three pages. The one on Chafee, a translation of that page to French, and a page on the library for the blind report. I am not using it 'blog-style' - its just a place to try out ideas. It seems to me there is a lack of critical thinking about the access issue, so I am saying what I think needs to be said. I don't claim to have any special insights, but I admit it bothers me when people uncritically accept what is basically PR, from whatever the source, and don't consider the potential negative implications of something like a $32 million grant from the government. On 10/3/07, Berkowitz, Daniel J wrote: > Bob -- I do wish to be disparaging -- but your entire blog seems to be one posting...is this correct? > > > ========================= > Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director > Boston University Office of Disability Services > 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor > Boston, MA 02215 > > (617) 353-3658 (office) > (617) 353-9646 (fax) > djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) > www.bu.edu/disability > > ________________________________ > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of Robert Martinengo > Sent: Wed 10/3/2007 3:29 PM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > > > > Jim, > > I think you are confounding the appropriate roles of libraries and > 'alternate media publishers' (I wrote a little essay about this on my > blog: http://accessiblemedia.wordpress.com/culture-vs-copyright-re-examining-barriers-to-books-for-the-blind/ > ). Libraries are wonderful places, but they are not free (its called > taxation), and Bookshare is not a library. > > The DoE should have offered at least some money directly to publishers > to make their electronic versions of textbooks accessible (you know, > the ones we complain about on DSSHE for being inaccessible). You say > the cost of converting a book is greater than the market value, well, > the feds just provide $32 million in subsidies. The problem is, it all > went to a middle-man. > > Its easy to paint the big publishers as the 'boogieman', but they are > the source of the material we want so badly to be accessible. So, > logically, if you really want equal access, you need to go to the > source. The publisher can be held accountable for the quality of their > product - Bookshare can't be, and trust me, they wont be (just like > RFB&D isn't). > > Remember, RFB&D has been around for over 50 years, with a strong donor > and volunteer base, and a staff of hard working, dedicated people. > They had over 100,000 books in their catalog (until they went > digital). Yet, they simply cant meet the demand. This DoE grant is a > band-aid that will prolong the problem, not solve it. > > Cheers, > Bob > > > On 10/3/07, Marks, Jim wrote: > > Bob, I am surprised by your comments, and I would urge you to elaborate > > some more in case I'm misunderstanding you. Shouldn't any library be > > able to offer its holdings for free? Why should people with > > disabilities be singled out with requirements like being forced to > > purchase a print book we cannot use just to get a book we can read? > > I've never understood this ethic well, especially when one considers > > that the cost of converting a book to a truly usable format is almost > > always far more expensive than the market value of the print book. I've > > heard all the arguments that the proof of purchase bit is a good thing, > > but it's at best a gesture. And it's a gesture that ought not keep > > people from information solely because of a print disability. The > > property rights boogieman is a tool of oppression. It's entirely > > possible for civil rights and property rights to co-exist. I want to go > > to my library and read it's materials for free. That's what most people > > want from a library, print disabled or not. > > > > For whatever it's worth, I think the grant will create more > > accessibility all across the nation. The money will drive the > > improvements, and the Bookshare folks are well aware of the challenges > > they face in stepping up their services. My office has been > > contributing e-text to Bookshare for several years now. Our > > contribution numbers are not huge, but this grant will entrench > > Bookshare more deeply in the post-secondary world. I'll bet more > > colleges will be contributing soon, and that publishers will be doing > > the same. It's not going to be "the" answer by a long shot, but the > > grant is pretty good news if you're a student with a print disability. > > > > Jim Marks > > Director of Disability Services > > University of Montana > > jim.marks@umontana.edu > > http://www.umt.edu/dss/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:00 PM > > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > > > > I think this grant could finally wake up educational publishers to the > > reality that the government is paying a middle-man to give away the > > publishers intellectual property. > > > > There is no stipulation from Bookshare that students have to buy their > > books in order to receive their services, so they will be getting their > > materials free. Not a bad deal for students, but it will rankle > > publishers. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Wed Oct 3 16:40:54 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <9edf8160710031229y3bfb2b1fua34df361e325d83f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1191357719.822865.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> <9edf8160710021359n6a524883p255e8b191f844c52@mail.gmail.com> <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7A62BCE4@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> <9edf8160710031229y3bfb2b1fua34df361e325d83f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004701c80616$ed79aa80$c86cff80$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Greetings, Can I ask a favor, and that is folks quite jumping to conclusions that are based on minimal information and a lot of conjecture. I would just like to present some food for thought. You need to remember that there were two DOE RFP's on this topic. One for content providers and the other to consortias to basically move the NIMAS implementation process forward. Here are the RFP numbers, 84.327k for the one Bookshare landed and 84.327s for the implementation grants. Do a search on the DOE website and give them a good reading. Both of the RFP's specifically mentioned postsecondary ed, but there is absolutely no involvement of postsecondary ed in the awards that have been made public so far. In the "s" grant the major award is coordinated by CAST and included 15 state k-12 systems. Here is the abstract from the CAST website: nimas.cast.org/about/resources/aim_consortium_abstract.html If you are in one of those states participating the first question I would ask your state level folks is how are they going to deal with students outside of the IDEA spectrum as they are required to do my law and also as a condition of this funding. At this point none of us know what Bookshare proposed in its RFP to the grant offering. Bookshare in its current form has its legitimate issues, but then so do all of the existing Authorized Entities. I have serious reservations about their current operational models since they do not appear to be scalable to the volume of materials that are required in the educational space. Bookshare may have the technical expertise to design and effective system, but do they have the staff with the requisite knowledge to pull this off? I do not feel that expanding their current system will work, they will need to create a new system to meet the requirements of the RFP. It is one thing to have a group of volunteers scan and proof straight text based books, but textbooks require a much higher level of skill and in many instances a volunteer workforce may not be a suitable solution. Knowing Jim Fructerman and having had several discussion with him about what is possible given enough money I think that we need to at least give their plan a fair chance. The publicity says 32 million, but in reality the only thing they have for sure is the first years funding anything beyond that is speculative because that is the nature of soft money funding from the feds. In fact based on the recent history of federal soft money anything after three years is pretty speculative. To meet their lofty goal of 100,000 titles they will have to have a high level of buy in from the publishers, and does that currently exist? Even if they are successful this is still less than half of the titles currently available in the postsecondary space, not to mention the 10's of thousands in use in k-12. It has always been my position that any effective model is going to take collaboration between multiple systems to even being to make a dent in the current need. Secondly we need to remember that these proposals are based on the LNS model for free matter for the blind and print disabled. This model leaves out what may be the majority of the student with print disabilites in postsecondary ed. The NIMAS model also only looks at students who are qualified as print disabled under IDEA, and in fact a large number of students with print disabilites in the k-12 space are not considered IDEA qualified but are on 504 plans. What this money does do is put more fire under the kettle of full curricular access for our community members with print related disabilites. There is still a lot of work to be done, and in this case the test of success will be who can the grant recipients bring together in an effort to form a collaborative and progressive solution to the issues at stake. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:30 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Jim, I think you are confounding the appropriate roles of libraries and 'alternate media publishers' (I wrote a little essay about this on my blog: http://accessiblemedia.wordpress.com/culture-vs-copyright-re-examining-barri ers-to-books-for-the-blind/ ). Libraries are wonderful places, but they are not free (its called taxation), and Bookshare is not a library. The DoE should have offered at least some money directly to publishers to make their electronic versions of textbooks accessible (you know, the ones we complain about on DSSHE for being inaccessible). You say the cost of converting a book is greater than the market value, well, the feds just provide $32 million in subsidies. The problem is, it all went to a middle-man. Its easy to paint the big publishers as the 'boogieman', but they are the source of the material we want so badly to be accessible. So, logically, if you really want equal access, you need to go to the source. The publisher can be held accountable for the quality of their product - Bookshare can't be, and trust me, they wont be (just like RFB&D isn't). Remember, RFB&D has been around for over 50 years, with a strong donor and volunteer base, and a staff of hard working, dedicated people. They had over 100,000 books in their catalog (until they went digital). Yet, they simply cant meet the demand. This DoE grant is a band-aid that will prolong the problem, not solve it. Cheers, Bob On 10/3/07, Marks, Jim wrote: > Bob, I am surprised by your comments, and I would urge you to elaborate > some more in case I'm misunderstanding you. Shouldn't any library be > able to offer its holdings for free? Why should people with > disabilities be singled out with requirements like being forced to > purchase a print book we cannot use just to get a book we can read? > I've never understood this ethic well, especially when one considers > that the cost of converting a book to a truly usable format is almost > always far more expensive than the market value of the print book. I've > heard all the arguments that the proof of purchase bit is a good thing, > but it's at best a gesture. And it's a gesture that ought not keep > people from information solely because of a print disability. The > property rights boogieman is a tool of oppression. It's entirely > possible for civil rights and property rights to co-exist. I want to go > to my library and read it's materials for free. That's what most people > want from a library, print disabled or not. > > For whatever it's worth, I think the grant will create more > accessibility all across the nation. The money will drive the > improvements, and the Bookshare folks are well aware of the challenges > they face in stepping up their services. My office has been > contributing e-text to Bookshare for several years now. Our > contribution numbers are not huge, but this grant will entrench > Bookshare more deeply in the post-secondary world. I'll bet more > colleges will be contributing soon, and that publishers will be doing > the same. It's not going to be "the" answer by a long shot, but the > grant is pretty good news if you're a student with a print disability. > > Jim Marks > Director of Disability Services > University of Montana > jim.marks@umontana.edu > http://www.umt.edu/dss/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:00 PM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org > > I think this grant could finally wake up educational publishers to the > reality that the government is paying a middle-man to give away the > publishers intellectual property. > > There is no stipulation from Bookshare that students have to buy their > books in order to receive their services, so they will be getting their > materials free. Not a bad deal for students, but it will rankle > publishers. > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From accessible.text at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 06:45:50 2007 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <-629319756642570991@unknownmsgid> References: <1191357719.822865.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> <9edf8160710021359n6a524883p255e8b191f844c52@mail.gmail.com> <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7A62BCE4@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> <9edf8160710031229y3bfb2b1fua34df361e325d83f@mail.gmail.com> <-629319756642570991@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <9edf8160710040645r68aecc0fxa918c254ce9f8328@mail.gmail.com> Hey Ron - great post. I don't think folks were really jumping to conclusions as much as getting a little carried away by the promise of all that cash. I tried to inject a little sobriety in to the mix, and you have definitely added to that. The only thing I can add to your excellent summation is that we are under no obligation to give Bookshare, or any other organization, a 'fair chance'. Our job should be to keep the pressure on them from the start, until they deliver on their promises. The students deserve no less. I think Jim Fruchterman waived any 'honeymoon' period when he accepted $32 x-large from Uncle Sam... On 10/3/07, Ron Stewart wrote: > Greetings, > > Can I ask a favor, and that is folks quite jumping to conclusions that are > based on minimal information and a lot of conjecture. I would just like to > present some food for thought. > > You need to remember that there were two DOE RFP's on this topic. One for > content providers and the other to consortias to basically move the NIMAS > implementation process forward. Here are the RFP numbers, 84.327k for the > one Bookshare landed and 84.327s for the implementation grants. Do a search > on the DOE website and give them a good reading. Both of the RFP's > specifically mentioned postsecondary ed, but there is absolutely no > involvement of postsecondary ed in the awards that have been made public so > far. > > In the "s" grant the major award is coordinated by CAST and included 15 > state k-12 systems. Here is the abstract from the CAST website: > nimas.cast.org/about/resources/aim_consortium_abstract.html > If you are in one of those states participating the first question I would > ask your state level folks is how are they going to deal with students > outside of the IDEA spectrum as they are required to do my law and also as a > condition of this funding. > > At this point none of us know what Bookshare proposed in its RFP to the > grant offering. Bookshare in its current form has its legitimate issues, > but then so do all of the existing Authorized Entities. I have serious > reservations about their current operational models since they do not appear > to be scalable to the volume of materials that are required in the > educational space. Bookshare may have the technical expertise to design and > effective system, but do they have the staff with the requisite knowledge to > pull this off? I do not feel that expanding their current system will work, > they will need to create a new system to meet the requirements of the RFP. > It is one thing to have a group of volunteers scan and proof straight text > based books, but textbooks require a much higher level of skill and in many > instances a volunteer workforce may not be a suitable solution. > > Knowing Jim Fructerman and having had several discussion with him about what > is possible given enough money I think that we need to at least give their > plan a fair chance. The publicity says 32 million, but in reality the only > thing they have for sure is the first years funding anything beyond that is > speculative because that is the nature of soft money funding from the feds. > In fact based on the recent history of federal soft money anything after > three years is pretty speculative. To meet their lofty goal of 100,000 > titles they will have to have a high level of buy in from the publishers, > and does that currently exist? Even if they are successful this is still > less than half of the titles currently available in the postsecondary space, > not to mention the 10's of thousands in use in k-12. > > It has always been my position that any effective model is going to take > collaboration between multiple systems to even being to make a dent in the > current need. Secondly we need to remember that these proposals are based > on the LNS model for free matter for the blind and print disabled. This > model leaves out what may be the majority of the student with print > disabilites in postsecondary ed. The NIMAS model also only looks at > students who are qualified as print disabled under IDEA, and in fact a large > number of students with print disabilites in the k-12 space are not > considered IDEA qualified but are on 504 plans. > > What this money does do is put more fire under the kettle of full curricular > access for our community members with print related disabilites. There is > still a lot of work to be done, and in this case the test of success will be > who can the grant recipients bring together in an effort to form a > collaborative and progressive solution to the issues at stake. > > Ron Stewart From KCarini at matcmadison.edu Thu Oct 4 06:46:05 2007 From: KCarini at matcmadison.edu (Kevin Carini) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil 3000 License-To-Go and Vista Message-ID: <4704A84D020000250000808E@mail.matcmadison.edu> Hello, Has anyone had any experience installing or granting a Kurzweil 3000 (Version 10) License-To-Go on a computer with the Vista operating system? I have installed several on XP systems and had no problems, but this is my first on a Vista system and I have been having some difficulty. I contacted the Kurzweil Technical Support and they sent me a step by step installation guide for Vista. It has to be done manually because of all the Vista security features. I followed the guide exactly the way it was stated. There is also a 10.04 patch that is available to download and that has to be downloaded manually also. The student's laptop has her setup as the administrator, but Vista still refuses to accept the license. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you. Kevin M. Carini MS, CRC DRS Specialist kcarini@matcmadison.edu (608) 243-4612 From accessible.text at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 07:42:51 2007 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! Message-ID: <9edf8160710040742s503db683p922178520d681331@mail.gmail.com> Well, there are already some jobs posted at Benetech, parent of Bookshare. Interestingly, the new positions are in software engineering. Here's one specific job duty (can you spot the missing word?) "You will work directly with engineers that are developing book converters and validators. Converters take books in digital format that we receive from publishers - e.g., Harper Collins ? and convert them to DAISY format that is accessible to a blind using proper assistive technologies." They also have openings in fund raising and marketing. http://www.benetech.org/join_us/position_postings.shtml From marks at mso.umt.edu Thu Oct 4 09:25:59 2007 From: marks at mso.umt.edu (Marks, Jim) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <9edf8160710031229y3bfb2b1fua34df361e325d83f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1191357719.822865.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu><9edf8160710021359n6a524883p255e8b191f844c52@mail.gmail.com><14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7A62BCE4@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> <9edf8160710031229y3bfb2b1fua34df361e325d83f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7A62BCEF@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> I think Bookshare is a library, not a publisher. I think the same of Recording for the Blind and Dyslexic and the National Library Services for the Blind and Physically Handicapped of the Library of Congress. A market solution sounds good, and it would be wonderful to eliminate the specialness of disability by making important enough for the marketplace to respond effectively. Thing is, the numbers of people with print disabilities just are not that large, certainly not large enough for publishers to make a buck consistently. Maybe I tend to be pragmatic, but I think we have to live in the world as it is, and I depend on the libraries above for my reading. They may be segregated and middle men, but I can read most of what I want when I want from these three sources. The questions of quality you raise hit the mark, but I wonder whether the power to leverage better quality would be any better in a market solution. Anything that makes my libraries' services stronger would be fine by me. I also think society has a responsibility to assure access, and if we subsidize the alternate format libraries, society is living up to that promise. I have to admit it would be cool to buy a book that works for me right off the local bookstore's bookshelf, though. It's just that I cannot hold my breath for this ideal to occur. I want to read now. Thanks for the discussion! Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:30 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Jim, I think you are confounding the appropriate roles of libraries and 'alternate media publishers' (I wrote a little essay about this on my blog: http://accessiblemedia.wordpress.com/culture-vs-copyright-re-examining-b arriers-to-books-for-the-blind/ ). Libraries are wonderful places, but they are not free (its called taxation), and Bookshare is not a library. The DoE should have offered at least some money directly to publishers to make their electronic versions of textbooks accessible (you know, the ones we complain about on DSSHE for being inaccessible). You say the cost of converting a book is greater than the market value, well, the feds just provide $32 million in subsidies. The problem is, it all went to a middle-man. Its easy to paint the big publishers as the 'boogieman', but they are the source of the material we want so badly to be accessible. So, logically, if you really want equal access, you need to go to the source. The publisher can be held accountable for the quality of their product - Bookshare can't be, and trust me, they wont be (just like RFB&D isn't). Remember, RFB&D has been around for over 50 years, with a strong donor and volunteer base, and a staff of hard working, dedicated people. They had over 100,000 books in their catalog (until they went digital). Yet, they simply cant meet the demand. This DoE grant is a band-aid that will prolong the problem, not solve it. Cheers, Bob On 10/3/07, Marks, Jim wrote: > Bob, I am surprised by your comments, and I would urge you to > elaborate some more in case I'm misunderstanding you. Shouldn't any > library be able to offer its holdings for free? Why should people > with disabilities be singled out with requirements like being forced > to purchase a print book we cannot use just to get a book we can read? > I've never understood this ethic well, especially when one considers > that the cost of converting a book to a truly usable format is almost > always far more expensive than the market value of the print book. > I've heard all the arguments that the proof of purchase bit is a good > thing, but it's at best a gesture. And it's a gesture that ought not > keep people from information solely because of a print disability. > The property rights boogieman is a tool of oppression. It's entirely > possible for civil rights and property rights to co-exist. I want to > go to my library and read it's materials for free. That's what most > people want from a library, print disabled or not. > > For whatever it's worth, I think the grant will create more > accessibility all across the nation. The money will drive the > improvements, and the Bookshare folks are well aware of the challenges > they face in stepping up their services. My office has been > contributing e-text to Bookshare for several years now. Our > contribution numbers are not huge, but this grant will entrench > Bookshare more deeply in the post-secondary world. I'll bet more > colleges will be contributing soon, and that publishers will be doing > the same. It's not going to be "the" answer by a long shot, but the > grant is pretty good news if you're a student with a print disability. > > Jim Marks > Director of Disability Services > University of Montana > jim.marks@umontana.edu > http://www.umt.edu/dss/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:00 PM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about > Bookshare.org > > I think this grant could finally wake up educational publishers to the > reality that the government is paying a middle-man to give away the > publishers intellectual property. > > There is no stipulation from Bookshare that students have to buy their > books in order to receive their services, so they will be getting > their materials free. Not a bad deal for students, but it will rankle > publishers. > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From terrih at asu.edu Thu Oct 4 09:50:28 2007 From: terrih at asu.edu (Terri Hedgpeth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! In-Reply-To: <9edf8160710040742s503db683p922178520d681331@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6DC38348EDE07642B024AA3CA0AA1BDC05F972FE@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> "a blind using" Dr. Terri Hedgpeth Academic Research Professional CUbiC #376, iCare (480) 727-8133 V (480) 965-1885 Fax CUbiC.asu.edu http://www.fulton.asu.edu/fulton/ -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:43 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! Well, there are already some jobs posted at Benetech, parent of Bookshare. Interestingly, the new positions are in software engineering. Here's one specific job duty (can you spot the missing word?) "You will work directly with engineers that are developing book converters and validators. Converters take books in digital format that we receive from publishers - e.g., Harper Collins - and convert them to DAISY format that is accessible to a blind using proper assistive technologies." They also have openings in fund raising and marketing. http://www.benetech.org/join_us/position_postings.shtml _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From tft at u.washington.edu Thu Oct 4 10:18:08 2007 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! In-Reply-To: <6DC38348EDE07642B024AA3CA0AA1BDC05F972FE@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <200710041718.l94HIBuw018747@smtp.washington.edu> So we've gone from "person first" language to "no person" language? I guess if you have $32M you can create your own vocabulary (smile) > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terri Hedgpeth > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:50 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! > > "a blind using" > > > Dr. Terri Hedgpeth > Academic Research Professional > CUbiC #376, iCare > (480) 727-8133 V > (480) 965-1885 Fax > CUbiC.asu.edu > http://www.fulton.asu.edu/fulton/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:43 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! > > Well, there are already some jobs posted at Benetech, parent > of Bookshare. Interestingly, the new positions are in > software engineering. > Here's one specific job duty (can you spot the missing > word?) > > "You will work directly with engineers that are developing > book converters and validators. Converters take books in > digital format that we receive from publishers - e.g., Harper > Collins - and convert them to DAISY format that is accessible > to a blind using proper assistive technologies." > > They also have openings in fund raising and marketing. > > http://www.benetech.org/join_us/position_postings.shtml > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From accessible.text at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 10:18:57 2007 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! In-Reply-To: <6DC38348EDE07642B024AA3CA0AA1BDC05F972FE@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <9edf8160710040742s503db683p922178520d681331@mail.gmail.com> <6DC38348EDE07642B024AA3CA0AA1BDC05F972FE@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <9edf8160710041018r234e598dk237b364575556023@mail.gmail.com> Correct - should have been 'blind person'. I'm sure they were just in a hurry to get those resumes in. But that doesn't quite explain what 'proper' assistive technologies are. Ok - now I am really nit-picking. On 10/4/07, Terri Hedgpeth wrote: > "a blind using" > > > Dr. Terri Hedgpeth > Academic Research Professional > CUbiC #376, iCare > (480) 727-8133 V > (480) 965-1885 Fax > CUbiC.asu.edu > http://www.fulton.asu.edu/fulton/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:43 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! > > Well, there are already some jobs posted at Benetech, parent of > Bookshare. Interestingly, the new positions are in software engineering. > Here's one specific job duty (can you spot the missing > word?) > > "You will work directly with engineers that are developing book > converters and validators. Converters take books in digital format that > we receive from publishers - e.g., Harper Collins - and convert them to > DAISY format that is accessible to a blind using proper assistive > technologies." > > They also have openings in fund raising and marketing. > > http://www.benetech.org/join_us/position_postings.shtml > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From sls-director at dept.fuller.edu Thu Oct 4 08:36:44 2007 From: sls-director at dept.fuller.edu (Carmen Valdes) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil 3000 License-To-Go and Vista In-Reply-To: <4704A84D020000250000808E@mail.matcmadison.edu> Message-ID: I am out of the office until October 10. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Sooi Ling Tan at 626-584-5435. From sls-director at dept.fuller.edu Thu Oct 4 08:36:45 2007 From: sls-director at dept.fuller.edu (Carmen Valdes) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! In-Reply-To: <9edf8160710040742s503db683p922178520d681331@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I am out of the office until October 10. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Sooi Ling Tan at 626-584-5435. From sls-director at dept.fuller.edu Thu Oct 4 10:18:36 2007 From: sls-director at dept.fuller.edu (Carmen Valdes) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! In-Reply-To: <6DC38348EDE07642B024AA3CA0AA1BDC05F972FE@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: I am out of the office until October 10. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Sooi Ling Tan at 626-584-5435. From sls-director at dept.fuller.edu Thu Oct 4 10:18:36 2007 From: sls-director at dept.fuller.edu (Carmen Valdes) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7A62BCEF@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: I am out of the office until October 10. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Sooi Ling Tan at 626-584-5435. From Glenda at webaccessibility.biz Thu Oct 4 12:37:17 2007 From: Glenda at webaccessibility.biz (Glenda Watson Hyatt - Soaring Eagle Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! In-Reply-To: <200710041718.l94HIBuw018747@smtp.washington.edu> Message-ID: "no person" language - thanks for the laugh, Terry! Have a good afternoon. Cheers, Glenda P.S. Please support my campaign to blog for a year by casting your vote daily at http://blogforayear.com/profiles/glenda-watson-hyatt. Thanks! Glenda Watson Hyatt, Principal Soaring Eagle Communications Accessible websites. Accessible content. Accessible solutions. www.webaccessibility.biz -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: October 4, 2007 10:18 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! So we've gone from "person first" language to "no person" language? I guess if you have $32M you can create your own vocabulary (smile) > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terri Hedgpeth > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:50 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! > > "a blind using" > > > Dr. Terri Hedgpeth > Academic Research Professional > CUbiC #376, iCare > (480) 727-8133 V > (480) 965-1885 Fax > CUbiC.asu.edu > http://www.fulton.asu.edu/fulton/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:43 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! > > Well, there are already some jobs posted at Benetech, parent of > Bookshare. Interestingly, the new positions are in software > engineering. > Here's one specific job duty (can you spot the missing > word?) > > "You will work directly with engineers that are developing book > converters and validators. Converters take books in digital format > that we receive from publishers - e.g., Harper Collins - and convert > them to DAISY format that is accessible to a blind using proper > assistive technologies." > > They also have openings in fund raising and marketing. > > http://www.benetech.org/join_us/position_postings.shtml > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1049 - Release Date: 04/10/2007 8:59 AM From jjohnson at htctu.net Thu Oct 4 13:44:10 2007 From: jjohnson at htctu.net (Jayme Johnson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil 3000 License-To-Go and Vista In-Reply-To: <4704A84D020000250000808E@mail.matcmadison.edu> References: <4704A84D020000250000808E@mail.matcmadison.edu> Message-ID: <004c01c806c7$5171cc10$9b821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Hello Kevin, I'm sorry to hear about your troubles with Kurzweil 3000 and Vista. It sounds like you are able to get the program installed, but it won't accept the license to go serial number. Is that correct, or is there an error message during the installation process? I'm curious if you tried to register the program before installing the patch? Also, in the step-by-step instructions from Kurzweil, did they tell you to install the program by right clicking on the "Setup.exe" file from the installation CD and choose "Run as Administrator"? I was told that this is sometimes necessary, even when you are already logged in as the administrator. I was also told that it may be necessary to right click on the "Kurzweil3000.exe" and choose "Run as Administrator" in order to successfully register it. If you find a solution, please share with the list, and good luck! Jayme Johnson Assistive Computer Technology Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 408-996-6045 www.htctu.net -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Carini Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:46 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil 3000 License-To-Go and Vista Hello, Has anyone had any experience installing or granting a Kurzweil 3000 (Version 10) License-To-Go on a computer with the Vista operating system? I have installed several on XP systems and had no problems, but this is my first on a Vista system and I have been having some difficulty. I contacted the Kurzweil Technical Support and they sent me a step by step installation guide for Vista. It has to be done manually because of all the Vista security features. I followed the guide exactly the way it was stated. There is also a 10.04 patch that is available to download and that has to be downloaded manually also. The student's laptop has her setup as the administrator, but Vista still refuses to accept the license. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you. Kevin M. Carini MS, CRC DRS Specialist kcarini@matcmadison.edu (608) 243-4612 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jjohnson at htctu.net Thu Oct 4 14:04:13 2007 From: jjohnson at htctu.net (Jayme Johnson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] TTS solution for individuals who are mute? Message-ID: <004d01c806ca$1e745500$9b821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Hello, I am trying to find a solution for an individual who is having their larynx removed because of cancer, and they are seeking a high quality synthetic voicing system. This individual has no mobility issues, can use a standard keyboard, is very technically capable, and a lot of the typical AAC devices are not quite appropriate matches for his needs and abilities. I know about the program "Next Up Talker" from www.nextup.com, as well as the "Gus! Pocket Communicator" and "Gus! Multimedia Speech System", and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with using these products or knows of similar products that I can take a look at as a possible solution? The basic functionality I am looking for would include a system that allows content to be typed in, possibly with some word prediction capability, the ability to manage pre-configured greetings and phrases, as well as the ability to record and play back audio files. Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated, and thank you in advance! Jayme Johnson Assistive Computer Technology Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 408-996-6045 www.htctu.net From cathk at cahs.colostate.edu Thu Oct 4 14:46:17 2007 From: cathk at cahs.colostate.edu (Kilcommons,Cath) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] TTS solution for individuals who are mute? In-Reply-To: <004d01c806ca$1e745500$9b821299@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <004d01c806ca$1e745500$9b821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <63C56460EFB67341A173FCE2F79FF6DD0937539F9E@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> Jayme, There is an augmentative communications consultant group who have put together a nice collection of available products - http://www.acciinc.com/Test/test/speech_generating_devices.html. Sorry can't give you any other specifics. I have only worked with old dynavox systems (http://www.dynavoxtech.com/). Also, are you aware of the OATs site? There are some products available there as well, although some are still beta. http://www.oatsoft.org/Software/by-category/Repository/Function/AAC Best, Cath -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jayme Johnson Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:04 PM To: Athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] TTS solution for individuals who are mute? Hello, I am trying to find a solution for an individual who is having their larynx removed because of cancer, and they are seeking a high quality synthetic voicing system. This individual has no mobility issues, can use a standard keyboard, is very technically capable, and a lot of the typical AAC devices are not quite appropriate matches for his needs and abilities. I know about the program "Next Up Talker" from www.nextup.com, as well as the "Gus! Pocket Communicator" and "Gus! Multimedia Speech System", and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with using these products or knows of similar products that I can take a look at as a possible solution? The basic functionality I am looking for would include a system that allows content to be typed in, possibly with some word prediction capability, the ability to manage pre-configured greetings and phrases, as well as the ability to record and play back audio files. Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated, and thank you in advance! Jayme Johnson Assistive Computer Technology Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 408-996-6045 www.htctu.net _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From KCarini at matcmadison.edu Thu Oct 4 14:56:17 2007 From: KCarini at matcmadison.edu (Kevin Carini) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil 3000 License-To-Go and Vista In-Reply-To: <004c01c806c7$5171cc10$9b821299@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <4704A84D020000250000808E@mail.matcmadison.edu> <004c01c806c7$5171cc10$9b821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <47051B3102000025000080C7@mail.matcmadison.edu> That is correct. I was able to install it, but it will not accept the license to go serial number. I did everything that you had suggested in your reply. Another suggestion that was made was to turn off the user account control in the user accounts and to turn off any anti-virus and anti-spyware including Windows Defender. I don't like to mess around with a student's laptop internally, but I will probably give that a shot with her permission. Thanks for the suggestions Jayme. Kevin M. Carini MS, CRC DRS Specialist kcarini@matcmadison.edu (608) 243-4612 >>> "Jayme Johnson" 10/4/2007 3:44 PM >>> Hello Kevin, I'm sorry to hear about your troubles with Kurzweil 3000 and Vista. It sounds like you are able to get the program installed, but it won't accept the license to go serial number. Is that correct, or is there an error message during the installation process? I'm curious if you tried to register the program before installing the patch? Also, in the step-by-step instructions from Kurzweil, did they tell you to install the program by right clicking on the "Setup.exe" file from the installation CD and choose "Run as Administrator"? I was told that this is sometimes necessary, even when you are already logged in as the administrator. I was also told that it may be necessary to right click on the "Kurzweil3000.exe" and choose "Run as Administrator" in order to successfully register it. If you find a solution, please share with the list, and good luck! Jayme Johnson Assistive Computer Technology Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 408-996-6045 www.htctu.net -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Carini Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:46 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil 3000 License-To-Go and Vista Hello, Has anyone had any experience installing or granting a Kurzweil 3000 (Version 10) License-To-Go on a computer with the Vista operating system? I have installed several on XP systems and had no problems, but this is my first on a Vista system and I have been having some difficulty. I contacted the Kurzweil Technical Support and they sent me a step by step installation guide for Vista. It has to be done manually because of all the Vista security features. I followed the guide exactly the way it was stated. There is also a 10.04 patch that is available to download and that has to be downloaded manually also. The student's laptop has her setup as the administrator, but Vista still refuses to accept the license. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you. Kevin M. Carini MS, CRC DRS Specialist kcarini@matcmadison.edu (608) 243-4612 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From JElmer at vcccd.edu Thu Oct 4 16:48:11 2007 From: JElmer at vcccd.edu (John Elmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil 3000 License-To-Go and Vista In-Reply-To: <4704A84D020000250000808E@mail.matcmadison.edu> Message-ID: Go into the User Control Panel and turn off the User Access Control (UAC) then restart the computer. It should then install and license just fine. Then, if you want, you can turn the UAC back on, but it is so annoying that I can't imagine why you would. :-) John F. Elmer Alternate Media Specialist Ventura College Educational Assistance Center (DSP&S) 4667 Telegraph Road Ventura, CA 93003 805.654.6400, x1278 "Kevin Carini" Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org 10/04/2007 06:51 AM Please respond to Access Technologists in Higher Education Network To cc Subject [Athen] Kurzweil 3000 License-To-Go and Vista Hello, Has anyone had any experience installing or granting a Kurzweil 3000 (Version 10) License-To-Go on a computer with the Vista operating system? I have installed several on XP systems and had no problems, but this is my first on a Vista system and I have been having some difficulty. I contacted the Kurzweil Technical Support and they sent me a step by step installation guide for Vista. It has to be done manually because of all the Vista security features. I followed the guide exactly the way it was stated. There is also a 10.04 patch that is available to download and that has to be downloaded manually also. The student's laptop has her setup as the administrator, but Vista still refuses to accept the license. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you. Kevin M. Carini MS, CRC DRS Specialist kcarini@matcmadison.edu (608) 243-4612 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From KCarini at matcmadison.edu Thu Oct 4 17:00:58 2007 From: KCarini at matcmadison.edu (Kevin Carini) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil 3000 License-To-Go and Vista In-Reply-To: References: <4704A84D020000250000808E@mail.matcmadison.edu> Message-ID: <4705386A02000025000080D4@mail.matcmadison.edu> Thanks John and Helen. I will give it a shot. Kevin M. Carini MS, CRC DRS Specialist kcarini@matcmadison.edu (608) 243-4612 >>> John Elmer 10/4/2007 6:48 PM >>> Go into the User Control Panel and turn off the User Access Control (UAC) then restart the computer. It should then install and license just fine. Then, if you want, you can turn the UAC back on, but it is so annoying that I can't imagine why you would. :-) John F. Elmer Alternate Media Specialist Ventura College Educational Assistance Center (DSP&S) 4667 Telegraph Road Ventura, CA 93003 805.654.6400, x1278 "Kevin Carini" Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org 10/04/2007 06:51 AM Please respond to Access Technologists in Higher Education Network To cc Subject [Athen] Kurzweil 3000 License-To-Go and Vista Hello, Has anyone had any experience installing or granting a Kurzweil 3000 (Version 10) License-To-Go on a computer with the Vista operating system? I have installed several on XP systems and had no problems, but this is my first on a Vista system and I have been having some difficulty. I contacted the Kurzweil Technical Support and they sent me a step by step installation guide for Vista. It has to be done manually because of all the Vista security features. I followed the guide exactly the way it was stated. There is also a 10.04 patch that is available to download and that has to be downloaded manually also. The student's laptop has her setup as the administrator, but Vista still refuses to accept the license. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you. Kevin M. Carini MS, CRC DRS Specialist kcarini@matcmadison.edu (608) 243-4612 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From terrih at asu.edu Thu Oct 4 17:23:01 2007 From: terrih at asu.edu (Terri Hedgpeth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] is End Note accessible to JAWS or Window Eyes? Message-ID: <6DC38348EDE07642B024AA3CA0AA1BDC05F97569@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> I am looking for a Bibliography app that is accessible to either Window Eyes or JAWS. Any ideas or thoughts? Dr. Terri Hedgpeth Academic Research Professional CUbiC #376, iCare (480) 727-8133 V (480) 965-1885 Fax CUbiC.asu.edu http://www.fulton.asu.edu/fulton/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From sls-director at dept.fuller.edu Fri Oct 5 09:49:20 2007 From: sls-director at dept.fuller.edu (Carmen Valdes) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am out of the office until October 10. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Sooi Ling Tan at 626-584-5435. From sls-director at dept.fuller.edu Fri Oct 5 09:49:19 2007 From: sls-director at dept.fuller.edu (Carmen Valdes) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am out of the office until October 10. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Sooi Ling Tan at 626-584-5435. From sls-director at dept.fuller.edu Fri Oct 5 09:49:27 2007 From: sls-director at dept.fuller.edu (Carmen Valdes) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! In-Reply-To: <20071004195208.E26EB86EBE@priscilla.fuller.edu> Message-ID: I am out of the office until October 10. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Sooi Ling Tan at 626-584-5435. From sls-director at dept.fuller.edu Fri Oct 5 09:49:30 2007 From: sls-director at dept.fuller.edu (Carmen Valdes) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil 3000 License-To-Go and Vista In-Reply-To: <004c01c806c7$5171cc10$9b821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: I am out of the office until October 10. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Sooi Ling Tan at 626-584-5435. From dhayman at u.washington.edu Fri Oct 5 10:15:58 2007 From: dhayman at u.washington.edu (Doug Hayman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: would someone disable this person's subscription until 10/10 so we don't all get these "out of the office" emails over and over? Thanks, Doug Hayman Technology Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) Box 355670 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Carmen Valdes wrote: > I am out of the office until October 10. If you need immediate assistance, > please contact Sooi Ling Tan at 626-584-5435. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From sls-director at dept.fuller.edu Fri Oct 5 09:49:33 2007 From: sls-director at dept.fuller.edu (Carmen Valdes) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil 3000 License-To-Go and Vista In-Reply-To: <4705386A02000025000080D4@mail.matcmadison.edu> Message-ID: I am out of the office until October 10. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Sooi Ling Tan at 626-584-5435. From sls-director at dept.fuller.edu Fri Oct 5 09:49:31 2007 From: sls-director at dept.fuller.edu (Carmen Valdes) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] TTS solution for individuals who are mute? In-Reply-To: <63C56460EFB67341A173FCE2F79FF6DD0937539F9E@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> Message-ID: I am out of the office until October 10. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Sooi Ling Tan at 626-584-5435. From sls-director at dept.fuller.edu Fri Oct 5 09:49:31 2007 From: sls-director at dept.fuller.edu (Carmen Valdes) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil 3000 License-To-Go and Vista In-Reply-To: <47051B3102000025000080C7@mail.matcmadison.edu> Message-ID: I am out of the office until October 10. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Sooi Ling Tan at 626-584-5435. From sls-director at dept.fuller.edu Fri Oct 5 09:49:33 2007 From: sls-director at dept.fuller.edu (Carmen Valdes) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil 3000 License-To-Go and Vista In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am out of the office until October 10. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Sooi Ling Tan at 626-584-5435. From Glenda at webaccessibility.biz Fri Oct 5 10:37:17 2007 From: Glenda at webaccessibility.biz (Glenda Watson Hyatt - Soaring Eagle Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] TTS solution for individuals who are mute? In-Reply-To: <004d01c806ca$1e745500$9b821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: Hi Jayme, >From what I've seen so far, NextUp Talker is similar to e-triloquist http://www.etriloquist.com/ without the price. Perhaps have your student try e-triloquist and then "upgrade" to NextUp Talker. The NeoSpeech voices, which are the best synthesized voices I've heard, work with e-triloquist. In fact, I used NeoSpeech's Kate in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFrSnILrOr. Good luck. Cheers, Glenda Glenda Watson Hyatt, The Left Thumb Blogger Author of I'll Do It Myself Blog: www.doitmyselfblog.com Email: Glenda@BooksbyGlenda.com Skype: Glenda.Watson.Hyatt (text only, please) -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jayme Johnson Sent: October 4, 2007 2:04 PM To: Athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] TTS solution for individuals who are mute? Hello, I am trying to find a solution for an individual who is having their larynx removed because of cancer, and they are seeking a high quality synthetic voicing system. This individual has no mobility issues, can use a standard keyboard, is very technically capable, and a lot of the typical AAC devices are not quite appropriate matches for his needs and abilities. I know about the program "Next Up Talker" from www.nextup.com, as well as the "Gus! Pocket Communicator" and "Gus! Multimedia Speech System", and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with using these products or knows of similar products that I can take a look at as a possible solution? The basic functionality I am looking for would include a system that allows content to be typed in, possibly with some word prediction capability, the ability to manage pre-configured greetings and phrases, as well as the ability to record and play back audio files. Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated, and thank you in advance! Jayme Johnson Assistive Computer Technology Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 408-996-6045 www.htctu.net _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1049 - Release Date: 04/10/2007 8:59 AM From gdietrich at htctu.net Fri Oct 5 13:19:42 2007 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Job Openings Message-ID: <004501c8078d$113c8060$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> There is a recruitment open for two positions in our Assistive Technology team within the vocational rehabilitation program of Dept of Services for the Blind. Both positions are located in Seattle. Recruitment closes November 5th. Please feel free to advertise these positions among your constituents: AT Assistant-Seattle (ITS2 $3653 - $4792 monthly) The AT Assistant provides direct technical support services that include: troubleshooting client technical (hardware/software) issues; setting up, configuring, and delivering client hardware and software items; maintaining equipment and software upgrades; and keeping AT assessment lab equipments up-to-date and in good working condition. The AT Assistant position description and application can be found at: http://www.dsb.wa.gov/documents/JobBulletin_ITS2_10-1-2007.doc AT Specialist-Seattle (ITS4 $4453 - $5841 monthly) AT Specialists open up job opportunities by testing and configuring adaptive software for compatibility, and by working with a client and employer to develop accessible work processes and environments. AT Specialists ensure clients are job ready by providing for training of adaptive technologies for efficient access of print and computer data and work tasks. The AT Specialist position description and application can be found at: http://www.dsb.wa.gov/documents/ITS4_ATSpec.doc Michael MacKillop Field Service Team Leader Dept Services for the Blind 3411 S Alaska Street Seattle, WA 98118 206-721-6444 1-800-552-7103 www.dsb.wa.gov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pratik From: Jim Fruchterman Sent: Thu 10/4/2007 10:39 PM To: Bksvol-Discuss Subject: Bookshare.org for Education Update Bookshare.org for Education An update on changes at Bookshare.org October 4, 2007 A new and improved Bookshare.org is coming! We're happy to share some of the initial details of this exciting plan with our volunteer and user community. As many of you have heard, we recently were awarded $32 million over five years to provide Bookshare.org services to schools and students in the U.S. Many of these changes in Bookshare.org are as a result of the acceptance of our proposal. The abstract of our proposal is at the end of this update, and the full request for proposals (RFP) is located at the Department of Ed website . Of course, this was a rare moment when the requirements of the RFP meshed very closely for our dreams for Bookshare.org. Our challenge is now to implement those dreams. 1. The Speed of Change In our proposal, we had anticipated starting to provide no cost memberships to U.S. schools and students on January 1, 2008, with three months of preparatory work. After the award, we learned that the moment we started work, we had to stop charging fees to meet the requirement of the contract. So, as of October 1, 2007, we stopped charging fees to students and schools in the U.S., and started developing Bookshare.org for Education (basically, version 2 of Bookshare.org). We have extensive plans for improvements that we will roll out steadily over the next few years. 2. Who is eligible for free services? Students in the U.S. with qualifying disabilities at the K-12, post-secondary and graduate levels. We are working with the Department of Education to understand this in greater detail and how it applies to particular cases. In essence, they are paying us to deliver a Bookshare.org service to students that would normally cost $75 per student the first year. We would like to extend this benefit to as many students as possible, consistent with the legal constraints that the department operates within. Our impression has been that the Department of Education funding is limited to those students who are less than 26 years of age, but we are confirming this. 3. What about everybody else? The Bookshare.org service will continue as usual for people with qualifying print disabilities who are not students or schools in the United States. These members will continue to pay for their subscription, have the option of adding their own scanned books and also have access to the additional materials and usability improvements that the Bookshare.org team will be adding through the Department of Education award. 4. Book Quality Bookshare.org is committed to and has been steadily improving the quality of our books. In recent years, we've increased our minimum requirements for book quality, especially for textbooks, in an effort to improve the overall quality of our collection. These trends will continue as part of Bookshare.org version 2. We expect to add at least one new quality rating above Excellent that reflects publisher quality content. 5. User choice on quality Some of our users are worried that our quality push will move away from sharing of scanned books. We need to balance these needs against the need for students and other members to receive top quality accessible materials. Our plan is to add a user setting on content filtering based on quality, so that users can control what quality content will be visible to them. We also plan to set the default to view Excellent or better content, which represents around 80% of our current content. This will ensure that casual and first-time users will see only high quality content, but allow sophisticated users who are happy to get a Good quality scan, rather than rescanning a book, to see additional titles if they choose. 6. Textbook quality We understand that textbooks need to be of top quality to meet the equity needs of students with a variety of print disabilities. We are committed to the new publisher-supplied NIMAS format textbooks as the primary source of these quality books. We expect to offer student-ready DAISY (and Braille) versions of NIMAS books very quickly: our goal is within a week by the end of 2008. We then plan to enhance these books by adding images into the DAISY versions, and text-based image descriptions into the DAISY for textbooks over time. We expect to use volunteers for some of this work, in addition to Bookshare.org staff and subject experts. 7. Book Quantity We will add more than 100,000 educational titles over the next five years. The bulk of these will be trade books and literature. Of course, many of them will be textbooks. To give you some idea of our current scale, in 2006 we added over 5,500 titles. So, we will quadruple our annual output while increasing our quality. We will be piloting a book request program for postsecondary students, teachers and schools and expect to expand this to serve broader requests throughout the next few years. Of course, we will continue to support our user requirements and the books you choose to share with the community as well. 8. Duplication of effort reduction One of the key priorities of the RFP was to work to reduce duplicative efforts. That's a good thing, because Bookshare.org was founded to reduce the need for people to scan the same books over and over again. Our goal is to fill important gaps in educational material access provision, provide content in alternative formats to serve a variety of needs and provide an infrastructure for legal sharing of content. 9. Publicity We've not yet done any formal publicity for this new direction, beyond sending an email to you, our Bookshare.org volunteer and member communities. We are working with the Department of Education on a joint press release. However, we don't consider any of this a secret, either. I'm happy to share this with you! Abstract from Proposal Abstract Bookshare.org for Education CFDA Number: 84.327K Bookshare.org will provide national free access to high-quality educational materials and supporting assistive technology to all qualified students who are visually impaired or print disabled. We believe it is time for every student with a print disability to have access to the materials they need for success in the classroom and beyond. Bookshare.org is an Internet library where people with print disabilities are able to find over 34,000 books, magazines and newspapers in accessible formats that they can read. It is a place where the efforts of hundreds of virtual volunteers, equally committed to our mission of providing equality of access to information, can join forces to efficiently share books. Further, the alternative book formats provided by Bookshare.org mean that students can read in the environment that best meets their needs; enlarged text, Braille, synthesized speech or a combination for a multisensory experience. Bookshare.org will fully deliver on the promise of the Absolute Priority: Technology and Media Services for Individuals with Disabilities - Educational Materials in Accessible Formats for Students with Visual Impairments and Other Print Disabilities. By leveraging our technology-based model, Bookshare.org will deliver far more accessible material, to a greater number of students, offer increased flexibility, all at a lower cost than traditional solutions. Because our books and the assistive technology (AT) are delivered digitally, we are able to benefit from efficiencies through scaling our service, and we do not incur warehouse or shipping costs. Our model for Bookshare.org is similar to Amazon.com or Google, rather than a traditional print library. The immediate access, flexibility in reading options and high quality of our digital content mean that Bookshare.org is able to serve a broad range of students with a variety of print disabilities. Beginning in January 2008, Bookshare.org will ensure that the following proposed outcomes are achieved, meeting all Award requirements (RFP-a) through (RFP-l): Every U.S. student with a qualifying print disability will have free access to high quality accessible educational material, including all NIMAC content, through his or her educational institution. Every such student will have access to a free, downloadable assistive technology solution that can read Bookshare.org books aloud and display them visually. Any SEA, LEA or postsecondary staff person will be able to register his or her qualified students easily and access books on their behalf. All postsecondary students and LEA designated K-12 students will have direct access to Bookshare.org's accessible book collection, where they can download books themselves and begin reading immediately. These books will work smoothly with all specialized assistive technology products used by students for access with synthetic speech, large print and/or Braille based on our collaboration with leading AT vendors. Volunteers, publishers, educational agencies, schools and accessible media producers will have a place where their efforts to provide accessible books will have the maximum reach with minimal duplication of effort. Bookshare.org will directly support SEAs, LEAs, post-secondary and graduate educational institutions in serving their qualified students in the most cost effective manner. We expect to serve all Section 121 qualified students in the United States and Outlying Areas, those students who have a visual, physical or learning disability that significantly impairs their ability to use regular print books. We expect to serve all such students, from pre-school through graduate school, and our main focus will be on addressing unmet needs, rather than duplicating existing efforts. Bookshare.org is especially excited to offer these capabilities to students and jurisdictions that have traditionally lacked access, especially rural and low-income communities. Benetech, the parent nonprofit of Bookshare.org, is a highly qualified national organization with an excellent track record of providing accessible digital audio and Braille formats, and assistive technology to the visually impaired and print disabled. Bookshare.org staff have played leading roles in the NIMAS and NIMAC advisory committees, and we have existing partnerships with many of the key stakeholders in the disability access field, including SEAs, LEAs, post-secondary institutions and systems, consumer groups, assistive technology vendors, publishers and accessible media producers. Our team is led by Jim Fruchterman, an internationally recognized expert in assistive technology and a recent MacArthur Fellowship winner. He is supported by a strong and experienced team of managers and expert advisors. In addition, Bookshare.org has a thriving volunteer community, with over 85 percent of volunteers being people with print disabilities, which will continue to add significant value to our service. As the most consumer-driven national accessible media producer, our connection to real users and their needs is well established and makes our service a reliable and effective solution to scale to meet the significant needs of the entire U.S. student population with print disabilities. Bookshare.org was built on a system intended to revolutionize the accessibility of books, to reduce the wasteful duplication of efforts of thousands of individuals and agencies scanning the same books over and over again. Our proposal to deliver more than 100,000 new educational titles, more than three million book downloads and the supporting AT to benefit hundreds of thousands of students will have a dramatic impact on the daily lives of disabled students. [Paragraph deleted for tasks that weren't funded as part of core proposal] Our country's students with print disabilities must have the fundamental prerequisite to education: equal access to the same printed material that is available to students without disabilities in a timely manner. Let's work together to ensure that those who need this access get it when they need it. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank Email to bookshare-discuss-request@freelists.org Put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the Subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Sat Oct 6 12:24:47 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Bookshare.org for Education Update In-Reply-To: <03c601c8082d$6fd723a0$4f856ae0$@com> References: <03c601c8082d$6fd723a0$4f856ae0$@com> Message-ID: <003901c8084e$8f585020$ae08f060$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Good evening, It is great to see an overview of what Bookshare intends to try and do. While this may definitely be a step forward it will take several months for the details to all be worked out. It needs to be noted that these are intended outcomes from the proposal but the nature of this funding mechanism gives OSEP a lot of say in what happens and OSEP has not traditionally been very receptive to the needs of higher ed. At this point we all need to give it time to work itself out. If your institution is considering taking up Bookshare's institutional offer please make sure and have it thoroughly veted through your legal office. Bookshare's intent to provide these materials to your students does nothing to mitigate your institutions requirements under Section 504. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:28 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: Bookshare.org for Education Update I'm forwarding this with Jim's permission. Pratik From: Jim Fruchterman Sent: Thu 10/4/2007 10:39 PM To: Bksvol-Discuss Subject: Bookshare.org for Education Update Bookshare.org for Education An update on changes at Bookshare.org October 4, 2007 A new and improved Bookshare.org is coming! We're happy to share some of the initial details of this exciting plan with our volunteer and user community. As many of you have heard, we recently were awarded $32 million over five years to provide Bookshare.org services to schools and students in the U.S. Many of these changes in Bookshare.org are as a result of the acceptance of our proposal. The abstract of our proposal is at the end of this update, and the full request for proposals (RFP) is located at the Department of Ed website . Of course, this was a rare moment when the requirements of the RFP meshed very closely for our dreams for Bookshare.org. Our challenge is now to implement those dreams. 1. The Speed of Change In our proposal, we had anticipated starting to provide no cost memberships to U.S. schools and students on January 1, 2008, with three months of preparatory work. After the award, we learned that the moment we started work, we had to stop charging fees to meet the requirement of the contract. So, as of October 1, 2007, we stopped charging fees to students and schools in the U.S., and started developing Bookshare.org for Education (basically, version 2 of Bookshare.org). We have extensive plans for improvements that we will roll out steadily over the next few years. 2. Who is eligible for free services? Students in the U.S. with qualifying disabilities at the K-12, post-secondary and graduate levels. We are working with the Department of Education to understand this in greater detail and how it applies to particular cases. In essence, they are paying us to deliver a Bookshare.org service to students that would normally cost $75 per student the first year. We would like to extend this benefit to as many students as possible, consistent with the legal constraints that the department operates within. Our impression has been that the Department of Education funding is limited to those students who are less than 26 years of age, but we are confirming this. 3. What about everybody else? The Bookshare.org service will continue as usual for people with qualifying print disabilities who are not students or schools in the United States. These members will continue to pay for their subscription, have the option of adding their own scanned books and also have access to the additional materials and usability improvements that the Bookshare.org team will be adding through the Department of Education award. 4. Book Quality Bookshare.org is committed to and has been steadily improving the quality of our books. In recent years, we've increased our minimum requirements for book quality, especially for textbooks, in an effort to improve the overall quality of our collection. These trends will continue as part of Bookshare.org version 2. We expect to add at least one new quality rating above Excellent that reflects publisher quality content. 5. User choice on quality Some of our users are worried that our quality push will move away from sharing of scanned books. We need to balance these needs against the need for students and other members to receive top quality accessible materials. Our plan is to add a user setting on content filtering based on quality, so that users can control what quality content will be visible to them. We also plan to set the default to view Excellent or better content, which represents around 80% of our current content. This will ensure that casual and first-time users will see only high quality content, but allow sophisticated users who are happy to get a Good quality scan, rather than rescanning a book, to see additional titles if they choose. 6. Textbook quality We understand that textbooks need to be of top quality to meet the equity needs of students with a variety of print disabilities. We are committed to the new publisher-supplied NIMAS format textbooks as the primary source of these quality books. We expect to offer student-ready DAISY (and Braille) versions of NIMAS books very quickly: our goal is within a week by the end of 2008. We then plan to enhance these books by adding images into the DAISY versions, and text-based image descriptions into the DAISY for textbooks over time. We expect to use volunteers for some of this work, in addition to Bookshare.org staff and subject experts. 7. Book Quantity We will add more than 100,000 educational titles over the next five years. The bulk of these will be trade books and literature. Of course, many of them will be textbooks. To give you some idea of our current scale, in 2006 we added over 5,500 titles. So, we will quadruple our annual output while increasing our quality. We will be piloting a book request program for postsecondary students, teachers and schools and expect to expand this to serve broader requests throughout the next few years. Of course, we will continue to support our user requirements and the books you choose to share with the community as well. 8. Duplication of effort reduction One of the key priorities of the RFP was to work to reduce duplicative efforts. That's a good thing, because Bookshare.org was founded to reduce the need for people to scan the same books over and over again. Our goal is to fill important gaps in educational material access provision, provide content in alternative formats to serve a variety of needs and provide an infrastructure for legal sharing of content. 9. Publicity We've not yet done any formal publicity for this new direction, beyond sending an email to you, our Bookshare.org volunteer and member communities. We are working with the Department of Education on a joint press release. However, we don't consider any of this a secret, either. I'm happy to share this with you! Abstract from Proposal Abstract Bookshare.org for Education CFDA Number: 84.327K Bookshare.org will provide national free access to high-quality educational materials and supporting assistive technology to all qualified students who are visually impaired or print disabled. We believe it is time for every student with a print disability to have access to the materials they need for success in the classroom and beyond. Bookshare.org is an Internet library where people with print disabilities are able to find over 34,000 books, magazines and newspapers in accessible formats that they can read. It is a place where the efforts of hundreds of virtual volunteers, equally committed to our mission of providing equality of access to information, can join forces to efficiently share books. Further, the alternative book formats provided by Bookshare.org mean that students can read in the environment that best meets their needs; enlarged text, Braille, synthesized speech or a combination for a multisensory experience. Bookshare.org will fully deliver on the promise of the Absolute Priority: Technology and Media Services for Individuals with Disabilities - Educational Materials in Accessible Formats for Students with Visual Impairments and Other Print Disabilities. By leveraging our technology-based model, Bookshare.org will deliver far more accessible material, to a greater number of students, offer increased flexibility, all at a lower cost than traditional solutions. Because our books and the assistive technology (AT) are delivered digitally, we are able to benefit from efficiencies through scaling our service, and we do not incur warehouse or shipping costs. Our model for Bookshare.org is similar to Amazon.com or Google, rather than a traditional print library. The immediate access, flexibility in reading options and high quality of our digital content mean that Bookshare.org is able to serve a broad range of students with a variety of print disabilities. Beginning in January 2008, Bookshare.org will ensure that the following proposed outcomes are achieved, meeting all Award requirements (RFP-a) through (RFP-l): Every U.S. student with a qualifying print disability will have free access to high quality accessible educational material, including all NIMAC content, through his or her educational institution. Every such student will have access to a free, downloadable assistive technology solution that can read Bookshare.org books aloud and display them visually. Any SEA, LEA or postsecondary staff person will be able to register his or her qualified students easily and access books on their behalf. All postsecondary students and LEA designated K-12 students will have direct access to Bookshare.org's accessible book collection, where they can download books themselves and begin reading immediately. These books will work smoothly with all specialized assistive technology products used by students for access with synthetic speech, large print and/or Braille based on our collaboration with leading AT vendors. Volunteers, publishers, educational agencies, schools and accessible media producers will have a place where their efforts to provide accessible books will have the maximum reach with minimal duplication of effort. Bookshare.org will directly support SEAs, LEAs, post-secondary and graduate educational institutions in serving their qualified students in the most cost effective manner. We expect to serve all Section 121 qualified students in the United States and Outlying Areas, those students who have a visual, physical or learning disability that significantly impairs their ability to use regular print books. We expect to serve all such students, from pre-school through graduate school, and our main focus will be on addressing unmet needs, rather than duplicating existing efforts. Bookshare.org is especially excited to offer these capabilities to students and jurisdictions that have traditionally lacked access, especially rural and low-income communities. Benetech, the parent nonprofit of Bookshare.org, is a highly qualified national organization with an excellent track record of providing accessible digital audio and Braille formats, and assistive technology to the visually impaired and print disabled. Bookshare.org staff have played leading roles in the NIMAS and NIMAC advisory committees, and we have existing partnerships with many of the key stakeholders in the disability access field, including SEAs, LEAs, post-secondary institutions and systems, consumer groups, assistive technology vendors, publishers and accessible media producers. Our team is led by Jim Fruchterman, an internationally recognized expert in assistive technology and a recent MacArthur Fellowship winner. He is supported by a strong and experienced team of managers and expert advisors. In addition, Bookshare.org has a thriving volunteer community, with over 85 percent of volunteers being people with print disabilities, which will continue to add significant value to our service. As the most consumer-driven national accessible media producer, our connection to real users and their needs is well established and makes our service a reliable and effective solution to scale to meet the significant needs of the entire U.S. student population with print disabilities. Bookshare.org was built on a system intended to revolutionize the accessibility of books, to reduce the wasteful duplication of efforts of thousands of individuals and agencies scanning the same books over and over again. Our proposal to deliver more than 100,000 new educational titles, more than three million book downloads and the supporting AT to benefit hundreds of thousands of students will have a dramatic impact on the daily lives of disabled students. [Paragraph deleted for tasks that weren't funded as part of core proposal] Our country's students with print disabilities must have the fundamental prerequisite to education: equal access to the same printed material that is available to students without disabilities in a timely manner. Let's work together to ensure that those who need this access get it when they need it. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank Email to bookshare-discuss-request@freelists.org Put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the Subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From accessible.text at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 12:30:20 2007 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Bookshare.org for Education Update In-Reply-To: <03c601c8082d$6fd723a0$4f856ae0$@com> References: <03c601c8082d$6fd723a0$4f856ae0$@com> Message-ID: <9edf8160710061230l292ceb7cw4692a5c4aa08c424@mail.gmail.com> Pratik, Thanks for posting this (you didn't really need permission - the original posting is publicly available at http://www.freelists.org/archives/bksvol-discuss/10-2007/msg00335.html). After reading the abstract, I stand by my original comments, and I am even more convinced that these folks are in over their head, but hey, $32 million can buy a lot of expertise! Bob From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Sat Oct 6 23:24:24 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Bookshare.org for Education Update In-Reply-To: <003901c8084e$8f585020$ae08f060$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> References: <03c601c8082d$6fd723a0$4f856ae0$@com> <003901c8084e$8f585020$ae08f060$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <007e01c808aa$b585b380$20911a80$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Just some follow up comments before I head of to the airport: What are the standards of quality that are going to be used in the development of this content? Due to the current high variability in Bookshare materials due to the volunteer nature of the operation, is a standard style guide going to be implemented and are volunteers going to be required to adhere to it. Second thougth how are institutions going to insure that their obligations are being met, when they will not typically be involved in the alt format transactions in this model? What happens if a student gets "bad" materials through Bookshare or any other third party provide, and their grades suffer accordingly? Have a good day! Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 3:25 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Bookshare.org for Education Update Good evening, It is great to see an overview of what Bookshare intends to try and do. While this may definitely be a step forward it will take several months for the details to all be worked out. It needs to be noted that these are intended outcomes from the proposal but the nature of this funding mechanism gives OSEP a lot of say in what happens and OSEP has not traditionally been very receptive to the needs of higher ed. At this point we all need to give it time to work itself out. If your institution is considering taking up Bookshare's institutional offer please make sure and have it thoroughly veted through your legal office. Bookshare's intent to provide these materials to your students does nothing to mitigate your institutions requirements under Section 504. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:28 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: Bookshare.org for Education Update I'm forwarding this with Jim's permission. Pratik From: Jim Fruchterman Sent: Thu 10/4/2007 10:39 PM To: Bksvol-Discuss Subject: Bookshare.org for Education Update Bookshare.org for Education An update on changes at Bookshare.org October 4, 2007 A new and improved Bookshare.org is coming! We're happy to share some of the initial details of this exciting plan with our volunteer and user community. As many of you have heard, we recently were awarded $32 million over five years to provide Bookshare.org services to schools and students in the U.S. Many of these changes in Bookshare.org are as a result of the acceptance of our proposal. The abstract of our proposal is at the end of this update, and the full request for proposals (RFP) is located at the Department of Ed website . Of course, this was a rare moment when the requirements of the RFP meshed very closely for our dreams for Bookshare.org. Our challenge is now to implement those dreams. 1. The Speed of Change In our proposal, we had anticipated starting to provide no cost memberships to U.S. schools and students on January 1, 2008, with three months of preparatory work. After the award, we learned that the moment we started work, we had to stop charging fees to meet the requirement of the contract. So, as of October 1, 2007, we stopped charging fees to students and schools in the U.S., and started developing Bookshare.org for Education (basically, version 2 of Bookshare.org). We have extensive plans for improvements that we will roll out steadily over the next few years. 2. Who is eligible for free services? Students in the U.S. with qualifying disabilities at the K-12, post-secondary and graduate levels. We are working with the Department of Education to understand this in greater detail and how it applies to particular cases. In essence, they are paying us to deliver a Bookshare.org service to students that would normally cost $75 per student the first year. We would like to extend this benefit to as many students as possible, consistent with the legal constraints that the department operates within. Our impression has been that the Department of Education funding is limited to those students who are less than 26 years of age, but we are confirming this. 3. What about everybody else? The Bookshare.org service will continue as usual for people with qualifying print disabilities who are not students or schools in the United States. These members will continue to pay for their subscription, have the option of adding their own scanned books and also have access to the additional materials and usability improvements that the Bookshare.org team will be adding through the Department of Education award. 4. Book Quality Bookshare.org is committed to and has been steadily improving the quality of our books. In recent years, we've increased our minimum requirements for book quality, especially for textbooks, in an effort to improve the overall quality of our collection. These trends will continue as part of Bookshare.org version 2. We expect to add at least one new quality rating above Excellent that reflects publisher quality content. 5. User choice on quality Some of our users are worried that our quality push will move away from sharing of scanned books. We need to balance these needs against the need for students and other members to receive top quality accessible materials. Our plan is to add a user setting on content filtering based on quality, so that users can control what quality content will be visible to them. We also plan to set the default to view Excellent or better content, which represents around 80% of our current content. This will ensure that casual and first-time users will see only high quality content, but allow sophisticated users who are happy to get a Good quality scan, rather than rescanning a book, to see additional titles if they choose. 6. Textbook quality We understand that textbooks need to be of top quality to meet the equity needs of students with a variety of print disabilities. We are committed to the new publisher-supplied NIMAS format textbooks as the primary source of these quality books. We expect to offer student-ready DAISY (and Braille) versions of NIMAS books very quickly: our goal is within a week by the end of 2008. We then plan to enhance these books by adding images into the DAISY versions, and text-based image descriptions into the DAISY for textbooks over time. We expect to use volunteers for some of this work, in addition to Bookshare.org staff and subject experts. 7. Book Quantity We will add more than 100,000 educational titles over the next five years. The bulk of these will be trade books and literature. Of course, many of them will be textbooks. To give you some idea of our current scale, in 2006 we added over 5,500 titles. So, we will quadruple our annual output while increasing our quality. We will be piloting a book request program for postsecondary students, teachers and schools and expect to expand this to serve broader requests throughout the next few years. Of course, we will continue to support our user requirements and the books you choose to share with the community as well. 8. Duplication of effort reduction One of the key priorities of the RFP was to work to reduce duplicative efforts. That's a good thing, because Bookshare.org was founded to reduce the need for people to scan the same books over and over again. Our goal is to fill important gaps in educational material access provision, provide content in alternative formats to serve a variety of needs and provide an infrastructure for legal sharing of content. 9. Publicity We've not yet done any formal publicity for this new direction, beyond sending an email to you, our Bookshare.org volunteer and member communities. We are working with the Department of Education on a joint press release. However, we don't consider any of this a secret, either. I'm happy to share this with you! Abstract from Proposal Abstract Bookshare.org for Education CFDA Number: 84.327K Bookshare.org will provide national free access to high-quality educational materials and supporting assistive technology to all qualified students who are visually impaired or print disabled. We believe it is time for every student with a print disability to have access to the materials they need for success in the classroom and beyond. Bookshare.org is an Internet library where people with print disabilities are able to find over 34,000 books, magazines and newspapers in accessible formats that they can read. It is a place where the efforts of hundreds of virtual volunteers, equally committed to our mission of providing equality of access to information, can join forces to efficiently share books. Further, the alternative book formats provided by Bookshare.org mean that students can read in the environment that best meets their needs; enlarged text, Braille, synthesized speech or a combination for a multisensory experience. Bookshare.org will fully deliver on the promise of the Absolute Priority: Technology and Media Services for Individuals with Disabilities - Educational Materials in Accessible Formats for Students with Visual Impairments and Other Print Disabilities. By leveraging our technology-based model, Bookshare.org will deliver far more accessible material, to a greater number of students, offer increased flexibility, all at a lower cost than traditional solutions. Because our books and the assistive technology (AT) are delivered digitally, we are able to benefit from efficiencies through scaling our service, and we do not incur warehouse or shipping costs. Our model for Bookshare.org is similar to Amazon.com or Google, rather than a traditional print library. The immediate access, flexibility in reading options and high quality of our digital content mean that Bookshare.org is able to serve a broad range of students with a variety of print disabilities. Beginning in January 2008, Bookshare.org will ensure that the following proposed outcomes are achieved, meeting all Award requirements (RFP-a) through (RFP-l): Every U.S. student with a qualifying print disability will have free access to high quality accessible educational material, including all NIMAC content, through his or her educational institution. Every such student will have access to a free, downloadable assistive technology solution that can read Bookshare.org books aloud and display them visually. Any SEA, LEA or postsecondary staff person will be able to register his or her qualified students easily and access books on their behalf. All postsecondary students and LEA designated K-12 students will have direct access to Bookshare.org's accessible book collection, where they can download books themselves and begin reading immediately. These books will work smoothly with all specialized assistive technology products used by students for access with synthetic speech, large print and/or Braille based on our collaboration with leading AT vendors. Volunteers, publishers, educational agencies, schools and accessible media producers will have a place where their efforts to provide accessible books will have the maximum reach with minimal duplication of effort. Bookshare.org will directly support SEAs, LEAs, post-secondary and graduate educational institutions in serving their qualified students in the most cost effective manner. We expect to serve all Section 121 qualified students in the United States and Outlying Areas, those students who have a visual, physical or learning disability that significantly impairs their ability to use regular print books. We expect to serve all such students, from pre-school through graduate school, and our main focus will be on addressing unmet needs, rather than duplicating existing efforts. Bookshare.org is especially excited to offer these capabilities to students and jurisdictions that have traditionally lacked access, especially rural and low-income communities. Benetech, the parent nonprofit of Bookshare.org, is a highly qualified national organization with an excellent track record of providing accessible digital audio and Braille formats, and assistive technology to the visually impaired and print disabled. Bookshare.org staff have played leading roles in the NIMAS and NIMAC advisory committees, and we have existing partnerships with many of the key stakeholders in the disability access field, including SEAs, LEAs, post-secondary institutions and systems, consumer groups, assistive technology vendors, publishers and accessible media producers. Our team is led by Jim Fruchterman, an internationally recognized expert in assistive technology and a recent MacArthur Fellowship winner. He is supported by a strong and experienced team of managers and expert advisors. In addition, Bookshare.org has a thriving volunteer community, with over 85 percent of volunteers being people with print disabilities, which will continue to add significant value to our service. As the most consumer-driven national accessible media producer, our connection to real users and their needs is well established and makes our service a reliable and effective solution to scale to meet the significant needs of the entire U.S. student population with print disabilities. Bookshare.org was built on a system intended to revolutionize the accessibility of books, to reduce the wasteful duplication of efforts of thousands of individuals and agencies scanning the same books over and over again. Our proposal to deliver more than 100,000 new educational titles, more than three million book downloads and the supporting AT to benefit hundreds of thousands of students will have a dramatic impact on the daily lives of disabled students. [Paragraph deleted for tasks that weren't funded as part of core proposal] Our country's students with print disabilities must have the fundamental prerequisite to education: equal access to the same printed material that is available to students without disabilities in a timely manner. Let's work together to ensure that those who need this access get it when they need it. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank Email to bookshare-discuss-request@freelists.org Put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the Subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From accessible.text at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 08:10:41 2007 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider Message-ID: <9edf8160710080810i1d0374b0kd9b5e617ea8fe4d5@mail.gmail.com> I've been thinking about the Bookshare news, and have come up with an idea: RFB&D and Bookshare should merge. Mergers happen all the time in the corporate world, and this would be a logical solution to a real problem - duplication of services and allocation of resources. Bookshare and RFB&D could merge their services, creating one comprehensive resource. What do y'all think? Bob From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Mon Oct 8 08:43:55 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider In-Reply-To: <9edf8160710080810i1d0374b0kd9b5e617ea8fe4d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <9edf8160710080810i1d0374b0kd9b5e617ea8fe4d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006f01c809c2$0917f6d0$1b47e470$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Morning all, I would rather see them both continue on in their separate and very different forms. Each brings a unique perspective and orientation to the provision of materials, as well as APH. What I would like to see is that each of them focus on their areas of strength. No one agency is going to be able to meet the demand necessary, and I also do not want to see duplication and redundancy of effort. A lot of specific expertise has been developed by the authorized entities and I would not want to see that lost. My other major concern is that this would just perpetuate the current beaurocratic inefficancies that tend to impact RDB&D as well as the NLS, and the state library systems. By the way whoever the person is who is forwarding all of my emails to folks outside ATHEN, the appropriate thing to do would have been to ask first! I do not say anything publically that I would not want shared, but permission is considered standard list edicit. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:11 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider I've been thinking about the Bookshare news, and have come up with an idea: RFB&D and Bookshare should merge. Mergers happen all the time in the corporate world, and this would be a logical solution to a real problem - duplication of services and allocation of resources. Bookshare and RFB&D could merge their services, creating one comprehensive resource. What do y'all think? Bob _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From pratikp1 at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 09:19:15 2007 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider In-Reply-To: <006f01c809c2$0917f6d0$1b47e470$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> References: <9edf8160710080810i1d0374b0kd9b5e617ea8fe4d5@mail.gmail.com> <006f01c809c2$0917f6d0$1b47e470$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <097601c809c6$f96e7740$ec4b65c0$@com> I don't think Bookshare is in the position to solve RFB&D's bureaucracy problems and adding Bookshare into the mix would only make things worse at this point. I would rather see Bookshare continue to focus on improving its offerings rather than focus on something as elusive as this idea. Mergers need to benefit both parties. In this case, I see no benefit to Bookshare. As far as I can tell, and I might be persuaded to see it otherwise, RFB&D has no significant process that can help Bookshare improve itself. I am not suggesting that RFB&D has no value and their services aren't important; but, it is a different model. Pratik -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:44 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider Morning all, I would rather see them both continue on in their separate and very different forms. Each brings a unique perspective and orientation to the provision of materials, as well as APH. What I would like to see is that each of them focus on their areas of strength. No one agency is going to be able to meet the demand necessary, and I also do not want to see duplication and redundancy of effort. A lot of specific expertise has been developed by the authorized entities and I would not want to see that lost. My other major concern is that this would just perpetuate the current beaurocratic inefficancies that tend to impact RDB&D as well as the NLS, and the state library systems. By the way whoever the person is who is forwarding all of my emails to folks outside ATHEN, the appropriate thing to do would have been to ask first! I do not say anything publically that I would not want shared, but permission is considered standard list edicit. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:11 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider I've been thinking about the Bookshare news, and have come up with an idea: RFB&D and Bookshare should merge. Mergers happen all the time in the corporate world, and this would be a logical solution to a real problem - duplication of services and allocation of resources. Bookshare and RFB&D could merge their services, creating one comprehensive resource. What do y'all think? Bob _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From accessible.text at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 10:09:29 2007 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider In-Reply-To: <097601c809c6$f96e7740$ec4b65c0$@com> References: <9edf8160710080810i1d0374b0kd9b5e617ea8fe4d5@mail.gmail.com> <097601c809c6$f96e7740$ec4b65c0$@com> Message-ID: <9edf8160710081009n64816405naff842b6268709b6@mail.gmail.com> Pratik, In Bookshare's abstract, they are basically building the same system RFB&D already has, but with etext instead of audio. They say they will add descriptions of images - well, that's what RFB&D readers do right now. RFB&D already has thousands of subject expert volunteers in their studios. No offence to Bookshare, but their expertise seems to be in romance, mysteries, and sci-fi. Bob On 10/8/07, Pratik Patel wrote: > I don't think Bookshare is in the position to solve RFB&D's bureaucracy > problems and adding Bookshare into the mix would only make things worse at > this point. I would rather see Bookshare continue to focus on improving its > offerings rather than focus on something as elusive as this idea. Mergers > need to benefit both parties. In this case, I see no benefit to Bookshare. > As far as I can tell, and I might be persuaded to see it otherwise, RFB&D > has no significant process that can help Bookshare improve itself. I am not > suggesting that RFB&D has no value and their services aren't important; but, > it is a different model. > > Pratik > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:44 AM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider > > Morning all, > > I would rather see them both continue on in their separate and very > different forms. Each brings a unique perspective and orientation to the > provision of materials, as well as APH. What I would like to see is that > each of them focus on their areas of strength. > > No one agency is going to be able to meet the demand necessary, and I also > do not want to see duplication and redundancy of effort. A lot of specific > expertise has been developed by the authorized entities and I would not want > to see that lost. > > My other major concern is that this would just perpetuate the current > beaurocratic inefficancies that tend to impact RDB&D as well as the NLS, and > the state library systems. > > By the way whoever the person is who is forwarding all of my emails to folks > outside ATHEN, the appropriate thing to do would have been to ask first! I > do not say anything publically that I would not want shared, but permission > is considered standard list edicit. > > Ron Stewart > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:11 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider > > I've been thinking about the Bookshare news, and have come up with an > idea: RFB&D and Bookshare should merge. Mergers happen all the time in > the corporate world, and this would be a logical solution to a real > problem - duplication of services and allocation of resources. > Bookshare and RFB&D could merge their services, creating one > comprehensive resource. > > What do y'all think? > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Mon Oct 8 10:34:54 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] [ATHEN] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider In-Reply-To: <9edf8160710081009n64816405naff842b6268709b6@mail.gmail.com> References: <9edf8160710080810i1d0374b0kd9b5e617ea8fe4d5@mail.gmail.com> <097601c809c6$f96e7740$ec4b65c0$@com> <9edf8160710081009n64816405naff842b6268709b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00c101c809d1$8c53dbe0$a4fb93a0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Okay just to continue to stir the pot... But RFB&D do not do full text full audio books and the last I heard have no intent of doing so. Maybe this is why they lost a chunk of their funding if the rumor mill is to be belived. To put a Bookshare issue on the table how are they going to put some controls on their volunteers in regards to their activities in scanning and editing books. What they scan, where they get the books, how they edit and what is contributed to the system. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:09 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider Pratik, In Bookshare's abstract, they are basically building the same system RFB&D already has, but with etext instead of audio. They say they will add descriptions of images - well, that's what RFB&D readers do right now. RFB&D already has thousands of subject expert volunteers in their studios. No offence to Bookshare, but their expertise seems to be in romance, mysteries, and sci-fi. Bob On 10/8/07, Pratik Patel wrote: > I don't think Bookshare is in the position to solve RFB&D's bureaucracy > problems and adding Bookshare into the mix would only make things worse at > this point. I would rather see Bookshare continue to focus on improving its > offerings rather than focus on something as elusive as this idea. Mergers > need to benefit both parties. In this case, I see no benefit to Bookshare. > As far as I can tell, and I might be persuaded to see it otherwise, RFB&D > has no significant process that can help Bookshare improve itself. I am not > suggesting that RFB&D has no value and their services aren't important; but, > it is a different model. > > Pratik > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:44 AM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider > > Morning all, > > I would rather see them both continue on in their separate and very > different forms. Each brings a unique perspective and orientation to the > provision of materials, as well as APH. What I would like to see is that > each of them focus on their areas of strength. > > No one agency is going to be able to meet the demand necessary, and I also > do not want to see duplication and redundancy of effort. A lot of specific > expertise has been developed by the authorized entities and I would not want > to see that lost. > > My other major concern is that this would just perpetuate the current > beaurocratic inefficancies that tend to impact RDB&D as well as the NLS, and > the state library systems. > > By the way whoever the person is who is forwarding all of my emails to folks > outside ATHEN, the appropriate thing to do would have been to ask first! I > do not say anything publically that I would not want shared, but permission > is considered standard list edicit. > > Ron Stewart > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:11 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider > > I've been thinking about the Bookshare news, and have come up with an > idea: RFB&D and Bookshare should merge. Mergers happen all the time in > the corporate world, and this would be a logical solution to a real > problem - duplication of services and allocation of resources. > Bookshare and RFB&D could merge their services, creating one > comprehensive resource. > > What do y'all think? > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at ahead.org Mon Oct 8 11:33:46 2007 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: job posting - Assistive Technology Message-ID: <00e401c809d9$c64a4b10$52dee130$@org> The following position is open at the University of South Carolina. Ron Stewart ***************** We have a position for an Assistive Technology Specialist (our internal title is Information Resources Coordinator I) at the University of South Carolina in Columbia, SC. The job description and application requirements can be viewed at the Human Resources Job Site at the University of South Carolina http://hr.sc.edu/employ.html In addition, anyone with questions may contact: Becky Duke Student Disability Services University of South Carolina 803-777-6142 dukeb@gwm.sc.edu From accessible.text at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 11:40:22 2007 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] [ATHEN] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider In-Reply-To: <7999499187971305437@unknownmsgid> References: <9edf8160710080810i1d0374b0kd9b5e617ea8fe4d5@mail.gmail.com> <097601c809c6$f96e7740$ec4b65c0$@com> <9edf8160710081009n64816405naff842b6268709b6@mail.gmail.com> <7999499187971305437@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <9edf8160710081140j5cd2e3bei4ecca81337c13b97@mail.gmail.com> My impression is that RFB&D has shied away from full-text books due to the added cost, time, and complexity to produce them (you can start recording a book as soon as you get it, but it takes time and effort to get clean etext). Also, RFB&D is heavily invested in human beings reading text. Bookshare is being a bit misleading to put synthetic speech on equal footing with human readers (saying their methods will be cheaper and quicker than 'traditional' ones). Not to say synthetic speech isn't essential to solve the timeliness issue, but it does have limitations. Another big question mark in Bookshare's proposal is Braille - all they do is pass it through Duxbury, which leaves a lot to be desired for textbooks, from what I understand. So, we are left with many more questions than answers. On 10/8/07, Ron Stewart wrote: > Okay just to continue to stir the pot... > > But RFB&D do not do full text full audio books and the last I heard have no > intent of doing so. Maybe this is why they lost a chunk of their funding if > the rumor mill is to be belived. > > To put a Bookshare issue on the table how are they going to put some > controls on their volunteers in regards to their activities in scanning and > editing books. What they scan, where they get the books, how they edit and > what is contributed to the system. > > Ron > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:09 PM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider > > Pratik, > > In Bookshare's abstract, they are basically building the same system > RFB&D already has, but with etext instead of audio. They say they will > add descriptions of images - well, that's what RFB&D readers do right > now. RFB&D already has thousands of subject expert volunteers in their > studios. No offence to Bookshare, but their expertise seems to be in > romance, mysteries, and sci-fi. > > Bob > > On 10/8/07, Pratik Patel wrote: > > I don't think Bookshare is in the position to solve RFB&D's bureaucracy > > problems and adding Bookshare into the mix would only make things worse at > > this point. I would rather see Bookshare continue to focus on improving > its > > offerings rather than focus on something as elusive as this idea. Mergers > > need to benefit both parties. In this case, I see no benefit to > Bookshare. > > As far as I can tell, and I might be persuaded to see it otherwise, RFB&D > > has no significant process that can help Bookshare improve itself. I am > not > > suggesting that RFB&D has no value and their services aren't important; > but, > > it is a different model. > > > > Pratik > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:44 AM > > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > > Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider > > > > Morning all, > > > > I would rather see them both continue on in their separate and very > > different forms. Each brings a unique perspective and orientation to the > > provision of materials, as well as APH. What I would like to see is that > > each of them focus on their areas of strength. > > > > No one agency is going to be able to meet the demand necessary, and I also > > do not want to see duplication and redundancy of effort. A lot of > specific > > expertise has been developed by the authorized entities and I would not > want > > to see that lost. > > > > My other major concern is that this would just perpetuate the current > > beaurocratic inefficancies that tend to impact RDB&D as well as the NLS, > and > > the state library systems. > > > > By the way whoever the person is who is forwarding all of my emails to > folks > > outside ATHEN, the appropriate thing to do would have been to ask first! > I > > do not say anything publically that I would not want shared, but > permission > > is considered standard list edicit. > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:11 AM > > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > Subject: [Athen] Idea: Bookshare + RFB&D = national provider > > > > I've been thinking about the Bookshare news, and have come up with an > > idea: RFB&D and Bookshare should merge. Mergers happen all the time in > > the corporate world, and this would be a logical solution to a real > > problem - duplication of services and allocation of resources. > > Bookshare and RFB&D could merge their services, creating one > > comprehensive resource. > > > > What do y'all think? > > Bob > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Mon Oct 8 12:07:36 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Elections Message-ID: <00ff01c809de$87e460e0$97ad22a0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. 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URL: From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Mon Oct 8 12:07:36 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7A62BCEF@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> References: <1191357719.822865.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu><9edf8160710021359n6a524883p255e8b191f844c52@mail.gmail.com><14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7A62BCE4@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> <9edf8160710031229y3bfb2b1fua34df361e325d83f@mail.gmail.com> <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7A62BCEF@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: <010a01c809de$88dec670$9a9c5350$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Bookshare thinks they are a library as well, and from Jim Fructermans comments at TechShare last week I have to agree with his logic. Libraries are inherently subsidized by the communities that they serve, and for the future as long as I can predict it this will also be the case for alt format materials. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Marks, Jim Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:26 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org I think Bookshare is a library, not a publisher. I think the same of Recording for the Blind and Dyslexic and the National Library Services for the Blind and Physically Handicapped of the Library of Congress. A market solution sounds good, and it would be wonderful to eliminate the specialness of disability by making important enough for the marketplace to respond effectively. Thing is, the numbers of people with print disabilities just are not that large, certainly not large enough for publishers to make a buck consistently. Maybe I tend to be pragmatic, but I think we have to live in the world as it is, and I depend on the libraries above for my reading. They may be segregated and middle men, but I can read most of what I want when I want from these three sources. The questions of quality you raise hit the mark, but I wonder whether the power to leverage better quality would be any better in a market solution. Anything that makes my libraries' services stronger would be fine by me. I also think society has a responsibility to assure access, and if we subsidize the alternate format libraries, society is living up to that promise. I have to admit it would be cool to buy a book that works for me right off the local bookstore's bookshelf, though. It's just that I cannot hold my breath for this ideal to occur. I want to read now. Thanks for the discussion! Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:30 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org Jim, I think you are confounding the appropriate roles of libraries and 'alternate media publishers' (I wrote a little essay about this on my blog: http://accessiblemedia.wordpress.com/culture-vs-copyright-re-examining-b arriers-to-books-for-the-blind/ ). Libraries are wonderful places, but they are not free (its called taxation), and Bookshare is not a library. The DoE should have offered at least some money directly to publishers to make their electronic versions of textbooks accessible (you know, the ones we complain about on DSSHE for being inaccessible). You say the cost of converting a book is greater than the market value, well, the feds just provide $32 million in subsidies. The problem is, it all went to a middle-man. Its easy to paint the big publishers as the 'boogieman', but they are the source of the material we want so badly to be accessible. So, logically, if you really want equal access, you need to go to the source. The publisher can be held accountable for the quality of their product - Bookshare can't be, and trust me, they wont be (just like RFB&D isn't). Remember, RFB&D has been around for over 50 years, with a strong donor and volunteer base, and a staff of hard working, dedicated people. They had over 100,000 books in their catalog (until they went digital). Yet, they simply cant meet the demand. This DoE grant is a band-aid that will prolong the problem, not solve it. Cheers, Bob On 10/3/07, Marks, Jim wrote: > Bob, I am surprised by your comments, and I would urge you to > elaborate some more in case I'm misunderstanding you. Shouldn't any > library be able to offer its holdings for free? Why should people > with disabilities be singled out with requirements like being forced > to purchase a print book we cannot use just to get a book we can read? > I've never understood this ethic well, especially when one considers > that the cost of converting a book to a truly usable format is almost > always far more expensive than the market value of the print book. > I've heard all the arguments that the proof of purchase bit is a good > thing, but it's at best a gesture. And it's a gesture that ought not > keep people from information solely because of a print disability. > The property rights boogieman is a tool of oppression. It's entirely > possible for civil rights and property rights to co-exist. I want to > go to my library and read it's materials for free. That's what most > people want from a library, print disabled or not. > > For whatever it's worth, I think the grant will create more > accessibility all across the nation. The money will drive the > improvements, and the Bookshare folks are well aware of the challenges > they face in stepping up their services. My office has been > contributing e-text to Bookshare for several years now. Our > contribution numbers are not huge, but this grant will entrench > Bookshare more deeply in the post-secondary world. I'll bet more > colleges will be contributing soon, and that publishers will be doing > the same. It's not going to be "the" answer by a long shot, but the > grant is pretty good news if you're a student with a print disability. > > Jim Marks > Director of Disability Services > University of Montana > jim.marks@umontana.edu > http://www.umt.edu/dss/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:00 PM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about > Bookshare.org > > I think this grant could finally wake up educational publishers to the > reality that the government is paying a middle-man to give away the > publishers intellectual property. > > There is no stipulation from Bookshare that students have to buy their > books in order to receive their services, so they will be getting > their materials free. Not a bad deal for students, but it will rankle > publishers. > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Mon Oct 8 12:41:57 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: ATIA 2008 Conference ATHEN Alliance Registration Discount notification Message-ID: <013e01c809e3$51ae1b10$f50a5130$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Attached is the ATIA registration form for ATHEN members. Looking forward to seeing you at ATIA. Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From sls-director at dept.fuller.edu Mon Oct 8 13:46:36 2007 From: sls-director at dept.fuller.edu (Carmen Valdes) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Benetech is hiring.... duh! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am out of the office until October 10. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Sooi Ling Tan at 626-584-5435. From sls-director at dept.fuller.edu Mon Oct 8 13:46:36 2007 From: sls-director at dept.fuller.edu (Carmen Valdes) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [bksvol-discuss] Great news about Bookshare.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am out of the office until October 10. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Sooi Ling Tan at 626-584-5435. From gdietrich at htctu.net Mon Oct 8 15:43:30 2007 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Elections In-Reply-To: <00ff01c809de$87e460e0$97ad22a0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> References: <00ff01c809de$87e460e0$97ad22a0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <004001c809fc$a6bd94f0$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> I thought those were lifetime positions. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 15:52:58 2007 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Elections In-Reply-To: <004001c809fc$a6bd94f0$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <00ff01c809de$87e460e0$97ad22a0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> <004001c809fc$a6bd94f0$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <00ee01c809fd$f9ec7be0$edc573a0$@com> Boy, I certainly hope not. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:43 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections I thought those were lifetime positions. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tft at u.washington.edu Mon Oct 8 15:57:06 2007 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Elections In-Reply-To: <00ff01c809de$87e460e0$97ad22a0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <200710082257.l98Mv75C031994@smtp.washington.edu> Ron, Can you say a bit more about what's involved in "overseeing the election process"? With a bit more detail as to what this entails I bet you'll be overwhelmed by eager volunteers. Terry _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 16:22:43 2007 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Elections In-Reply-To: <00ff01c809de$87e460e0$97ad22a0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> References: <00ff01c809de$87e460e0$97ad22a0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <010b01c80a02$21b45d60$651d1820$@com> Ron, I do not plan to rerun for my East-Coast VP position this year and would be happy to serve as the overseer of all things elections. BTW, to those who are on the East Coast, please consider running for the VP position. It's a great opportunity for the organization to get new ideas and different perspectives. If you think I'm completely going away, think again. I'll just get to bother you from the other side of the fense. Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Tue Oct 9 05:39:15 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Elections In-Reply-To: <004001c809fc$a6bd94f0$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <00ff01c809de$87e460e0$97ad22a0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> <004001c809fc$a6bd94f0$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <004d01c80a71$69803050$3c8090f0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> "Prop me up in front when I die, put a computer in my hand, .. Sung to the tune of a song by Joe Diffie Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:44 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections I thought those were lifetime positions. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Tue Oct 9 05:39:15 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections In-Reply-To: <200710082257.l98Mv75C031994@smtp.washington.edu> References: <00ff01c809de$87e460e0$97ad22a0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> <200710082257.l98Mv75C031994@smtp.washington.edu> Message-ID: <005501c80a71$6c635310$4529f930$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> I am sure you are right J The person who takes this on needs to oversee the process of the election 1. Solicit candidates and if they wish personal statements of qualification or merit for the office they are seeking 2. Verify that all candidates are members in good standing 3. Provide election information to Sean Keegan for placement on the website 4. Overseen the in person and electronic election process. 5. Verify that only members votes are tabulated 6. Count the votes and announce the results. There is probably more but I think this pretty much covers it. Elections are to be held in conjunction with AHG so time is fairly short. The offices are President - Currently occupied by me, and yes I am willing to continue on Vice President West - Currently occupied by Dan Comden Vice President East - Currently occupied by Pratik Patel who will not be seeking reelection Treasure - Currently occupied by Eileen Berger Secretary - Currently occupied by Laurie Vasquez Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:57 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections Ron, Can you say a bit more about what's involved in "overseeing the election process"? With a bit more detail as to what this entails I bet you'll be overwhelmed by eager volunteers. Terry _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu Tue Oct 9 07:36:37 2007 From: saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu (Saroj Primlani) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Elections In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004f01c80a81$cc5f8490$dcc30798@sarojnewlaptop> Are we supposed to nominate and/ or second people prior to AGH or will you conduct the whole process at AGH Saroj _________________________________ Saroj Primlani Coordinator of University IT Accessibility ITD 919 513 4087 http://ncsu.edu/it/access -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:39 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 21, Issue 22 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Elections (Pratik Patel) 2. Re: Elections (Ron Stewart) 3. Re: [ATHEN] Elections (Ron Stewart) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:22:43 -0400 From: "Pratik Patel" Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <010b01c80a02$21b45d60$651d1820$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ron, I do not plan to rerun for my East-Coast VP position this year and would be happy to serve as the overseer of all things elections. BTW, to those who are on the East Coast, please consider running for the VP position. It's a great opportunity for the organization to get new ideas and different perspectives. If you think I'm completely going away, think again. I'll just get to bother you from the other side of the fense. Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20071008/be544b 7f/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:39:15 -0400 From: "Ron Stewart" Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <004d01c80a71$69803050$3c8090f0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "Prop me up in front when I die, put a computer in my hand, .. Sung to the tune of a song by Joe Diffie Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:44 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections I thought those were lifetime positions. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20071009/06e559 71/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:39:15 -0400 From: "Ron Stewart" Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <005501c80a71$6c635310$4529f930$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am sure you are right J The person who takes this on needs to oversee the process of the election 1. Solicit candidates and if they wish personal statements of qualification or merit for the office they are seeking 2. Verify that all candidates are members in good standing 3. Provide election information to Sean Keegan for placement on the website 4. Overseen the in person and electronic election process. 5. Verify that only members votes are tabulated 6. Count the votes and announce the results. There is probably more but I think this pretty much covers it. Elections are to be held in conjunction with AHG so time is fairly short. The offices are President - Currently occupied by me, and yes I am willing to continue on Vice President West - Currently occupied by Dan Comden Vice President East - Currently occupied by Pratik Patel who will not be seeking reelection Treasure - Currently occupied by Eileen Berger Secretary - Currently occupied by Laurie Vasquez Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:57 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections Ron, Can you say a bit more about what's involved in "overseeing the election process"? With a bit more detail as to what this entails I bet you'll be overwhelmed by eager volunteers. Terry _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20071009/b43ed8 c6/attachment.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 21, Issue 22 ************************************* From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Tue Oct 9 08:13:01 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Elections In-Reply-To: <004f01c80a81$cc5f8490$dcc30798@sarojnewlaptop> References: <004f01c80a81$cc5f8490$dcc30798@sarojnewlaptop> Message-ID: <004e01c80a86$e27234d0$a7569e70$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> I would like as much of this to go on prior to AHG as possible, not all members are able to attend AHG. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Saroj Primlani Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:37 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Elections Are we supposed to nominate and/ or second people prior to AGH or will you conduct the whole process at AGH Saroj _________________________________ Saroj Primlani Coordinator of University IT Accessibility ITD 919 513 4087 http://ncsu.edu/it/access -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:39 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 21, Issue 22 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Elections (Pratik Patel) 2. Re: Elections (Ron Stewart) 3. Re: [ATHEN] Elections (Ron Stewart) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:22:43 -0400 From: "Pratik Patel" Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <010b01c80a02$21b45d60$651d1820$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ron, I do not plan to rerun for my East-Coast VP position this year and would be happy to serve as the overseer of all things elections. BTW, to those who are on the East Coast, please consider running for the VP position. It's a great opportunity for the organization to get new ideas and different perspectives. If you think I'm completely going away, think again. I'll just get to bother you from the other side of the fense. Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20071008/be544b 7f/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:39:15 -0400 From: "Ron Stewart" Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <004d01c80a71$69803050$3c8090f0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "Prop me up in front when I die, put a computer in my hand, .. Sung to the tune of a song by Joe Diffie Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:44 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections I thought those were lifetime positions. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20071009/06e559 71/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:39:15 -0400 From: "Ron Stewart" Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <005501c80a71$6c635310$4529f930$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am sure you are right J The person who takes this on needs to oversee the process of the election 1. Solicit candidates and if they wish personal statements of qualification or merit for the office they are seeking 2. Verify that all candidates are members in good standing 3. Provide election information to Sean Keegan for placement on the website 4. Overseen the in person and electronic election process. 5. Verify that only members votes are tabulated 6. Count the votes and announce the results. There is probably more but I think this pretty much covers it. Elections are to be held in conjunction with AHG so time is fairly short. The offices are President - Currently occupied by me, and yes I am willing to continue on Vice President West - Currently occupied by Dan Comden Vice President East - Currently occupied by Pratik Patel who will not be seeking reelection Treasure - Currently occupied by Eileen Berger Secretary - Currently occupied by Laurie Vasquez Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:57 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections Ron, Can you say a bit more about what's involved in "overseeing the election process"? With a bit more detail as to what this entails I bet you'll be overwhelmed by eager volunteers. Terry _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20071009/b43ed8 c6/attachment.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 21, Issue 22 ************************************* _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From goodman at eri-wi.org Tue Oct 9 08:55:00 2007 From: goodman at eri-wi.org (Phillip Goodman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] web based screen reader In-Reply-To: <004e01c80a86$e27234d0$a7569e70$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <003c01c80a8c$c029e750$1600a8c0@eriwi.local> I am looking for a particular web based screen reader that I believe was discussed on this list serve a little while back. I may have accessed it from home because I can't find anything on my work pc. This reader is a subscription service and can be accessed through a web site so you could potentially use it anywhere. Not being able to remember the name is driving me crazy and a Google search did not ring my bell! Any help out there? Phil Goodman This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are no the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From travis at travisroth.com Tue Oct 9 08:56:37 2007 From: travis at travisroth.com (Travis Roth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] web based screen reader In-Reply-To: <003c01c80a8c$c029e750$1600a8c0@eriwi.local> References: <004e01c80a86$e27234d0$a7569e70$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> <003c01c80a8c$c029e750$1600a8c0@eriwi.local> Message-ID: <005301c80a8c$f9693520$ec3b9f60$@com> I'd guess you're thinking of SA To Go. www.serotek.com -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Phillip Goodman Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:55 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] web based screen reader I am looking for a particular web based screen reader that I believe was discussed on this list serve a little while back. I may have accessed it from home because I can't find anything on my work pc. This reader is a subscription service and can be accessed through a web site so you could potentially use it anywhere. Not being able to remember the name is driving me crazy and a Google search did not ring my bell! Any help out there? Phil Goodman This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are no the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1059 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 8:44 AM From djbrky at bu.edu Tue Oct 9 08:57:39 2007 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] web based screen reader In-Reply-To: <003c01c80a8c$c029e750$1600a8c0@eriwi.local> Message-ID: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C7116056B04B6@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> Is it Issist? http://www.issist.com/ ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Phillip Goodman >Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:55 AM >To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' >Subject: [Athen] web based screen reader > > >I am looking for a particular web based screen reader that I believe was >discussed on this list serve a little while back. I may have accessed it >from home because I can't find anything on my work pc. This reader is a >subscription service and can be accessed through a web site so you could >potentially use it anywhere. > >Not being able to remember the name is driving me crazy and a Google search >did not ring my bell! Any help out there? > >Phil Goodman > >This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the >intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged >information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is >prohibited. If you are no the intended recipient, please contact the >sender >by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From goodman at eri-wi.org Tue Oct 9 09:04:57 2007 From: goodman at eri-wi.org (Phillip Goodman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] web based screen reader In-Reply-To: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C7116056B04B6@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> Message-ID: <003d01c80a8e$23a1cfe0$1600a8c0@eriwi.local> Wow fast answers It is SA to GO (serotek) but I like the iZoom too! Thanks guys... Phil Goodman This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are no the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:58 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] web based screen reader Is it Issist? http://www.issist.com/ ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Phillip Goodman >Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:55 AM >To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' >Subject: [Athen] web based screen reader > > >I am looking for a particular web based screen reader that I believe was >discussed on this list serve a little while back. I may have accessed it >from home because I can't find anything on my work pc. This reader is a >subscription service and can be accessed through a web site so you could >potentially use it anywhere. > >Not being able to remember the name is driving me crazy and a Google search >did not ring my bell! Any help out there? > >Phil Goodman > >This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the >intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged >information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is >prohibited. If you are no the intended recipient, please contact the >sender >by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From djbrky at bu.edu Tue Oct 9 09:48:08 2007 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN Meeting at Accessing Higher Ground 2007- AGENDA ITEMS In-Reply-To: <010a01c809de$88dec670$9a9c5350$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C7116056B05D5@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> Greetings one and all - The annual ATHEN business meeting at Accessing Higher Ground is tentatively scheduled for the Thursday, November 8 at 6:00 PM. Location within the conference site TBD. If you have any items you would like added to the Agenda for the meeting (new business, old business, by-law changes, items for the record, etc.) Please submit all agenda items to me (Dann Berkowitz = djbrky@bu.edu) Cheers --- Dann ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability From tft at u.washington.edu Tue Oct 9 10:53:22 2007 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN Meeting at Accessing Higher Ground 2007- AGENDA ITEMS In-Reply-To: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C7116056B05D5@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> Message-ID: <200710091753.l99HrOGq031470@smtp.washington.edu> Hi Dann, I'll carry my two agenda items over from last year (and the year before, and the year before): - Survey - EDUCAUSE Terry > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:48 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] ATHEN Meeting at Accessing Higher Ground > 2007- AGENDA ITEMS > > > Greetings one and all - > > The annual ATHEN business meeting at Accessing Higher Ground > is tentatively scheduled for the Thursday, November 8 at 6:00 > PM. Location within the conference site TBD. > > If you have any items you would like added to the Agenda for > the meeting (new business, old business, by-law changes, > items for the record, etc.) > > Please submit all agenda items to me (Dann Berkowitz = djbrky@bu.edu) > > Cheers --- Dann > > > ========================= > Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director > Boston University Office of Disability Services > 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor > Boston, MA 02215 > > (617) 353-3658 (office) > (617) 353-9646 (fax) > djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) > www.bu.edu/disability > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From gdietrich at htctu.net Tue Oct 9 10:50:35 2007 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN Meeting at Accessing Higher Ground 2007- AGENDAITEMS In-Reply-To: <200710091753.l99HrOGq031470@smtp.washington.edu> References: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C7116056B05D5@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> <200710091753.l99HrOGq031470@smtp.washington.edu> Message-ID: <005101c80a9c$e5d708b0$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> LOL Terry...dogged persistence, gotta love it... ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:53 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN Meeting at Accessing Higher Ground 2007- AGENDAITEMS Hi Dann, I'll carry my two agenda items over from last year (and the year before, and the year before): - Survey - EDUCAUSE Terry > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:48 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] ATHEN Meeting at Accessing Higher Ground > 2007- AGENDA ITEMS > > > Greetings one and all - > > The annual ATHEN business meeting at Accessing Higher Ground > is tentatively scheduled for the Thursday, November 8 at 6:00 > PM. Location within the conference site TBD. > > If you have any items you would like added to the Agenda for > the meeting (new business, old business, by-law changes, > items for the record, etc.) > > Please submit all agenda items to me (Dann Berkowitz = djbrky@bu.edu) > > Cheers --- Dann > > > ========================= > Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director > Boston University Office of Disability Services > 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor > Boston, MA 02215 > > (617) 353-3658 (office) > (617) 353-9646 (fax) > djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) > www.bu.edu/disability > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Tue Oct 9 11:04:07 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN Meeting at Accessing Higher Ground 2007- AGENDA ITEMS In-Reply-To: <200710091753.l99HrOGq031470@smtp.washington.edu> References: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C7116056B05D5@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> <200710091753.l99HrOGq031470@smtp.washington.edu> Message-ID: <00e601c80a9e$cf963f60$6ec2be20$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> My guess is that they will both be on the agenda for years to come :) Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:53 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN Meeting at Accessing Higher Ground 2007- AGENDA ITEMS Hi Dann, I'll carry my two agenda items over from last year (and the year before, and the year before): - Survey - EDUCAUSE Terry > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:48 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] ATHEN Meeting at Accessing Higher Ground > 2007- AGENDA ITEMS > > > Greetings one and all - > > The annual ATHEN business meeting at Accessing Higher Ground > is tentatively scheduled for the Thursday, November 8 at 6:00 > PM. Location within the conference site TBD. > > If you have any items you would like added to the Agenda for > the meeting (new business, old business, by-law changes, > items for the record, etc.) > > Please submit all agenda items to me (Dann Berkowitz = djbrky@bu.edu) > > Cheers --- Dann > > > ========================= > Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director > Boston University Office of Disability Services > 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor > Boston, MA 02215 > > (617) 353-3658 (office) > (617) 353-9646 (fax) > djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) > www.bu.edu/disability > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From nettiet at frontiernet.net Tue Oct 9 13:33:06 2007 From: nettiet at frontiernet.net (nettiet@frontiernet.net) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] DNS assessment question Message-ID: <20071009133306.0k53vta0edwgkc8w@webmail.frontiernet.net> Good day to all, I am in the process of completing an assessment on speech-to-text and would love some input from persons who have more experience with speech-to-text and would be grateful for opinions. Assessment Outcome: The client/student performs at a level that demonstrates that DNS as a viable option? There are so many variables once the assessment process is complete -all which heavily rely on the training that the 'student' is willing to put in and the follow through on the equipment recommendations to support the software. I have found that even if a student demonstrates the capability and functional baseline skills, if the student does not want to put in the time, and/or the equipment is less than recommended, the assessment pretty much loses its validity. How do others addess this issue with regards to recommendations. Are there more specifice guidelines to help determine the true potential of S-2-Text? If the assesment report denotes the equipment recommenations and training needs, there is still no guarantee that these recommendations will be followed. I include a recommended trial period but, the cost factor may be the deterent for school districts; "why spend so much for just a trial?" How do others address this issue? Feel free to email me off list-serve at nettiet@gmail.com Thank you, Nettie From thaven at hawaii.edu Tue Oct 9 14:01:59 2007 From: thaven at hawaii.edu (Teresa LW Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Call For Papers: ATHEN E-Journal Issue #4 Message-ID: <001901c80ab7$a2560b20$0c71ab80@KOKUAAT> Greetings, All. ATHEN is now accepting paper submissions for issue number four of the ATHEN E-Journal. Based on responses to a query posted to the list sometime back, the topic for this issue is "Who Are We and What Do We Do?" When I asked awhile back what people wanted to read and write about, the overwhelming response was that people wanted to know what their colleagues were called at their various institutions, what their job descriptions said that they did, what they _really_ did, how their positions were structured, who they reported to (Disability Services, Information Technology, someone else?), the skills that they were expected to have -- in short, details about our various positions. The survey by Terry Thompson and colleagues has been investigating this question as well, so we hope that this issue of the E-Journal will contribute to that base of knowledge and benefit us all. If you would like to submit a paper, please ensure that it reaches me (thaven@hawaii.edu) no later than December 21, 2007. Please include your name, title, institution, and other relevant information; contact me off-list (thaven@hawaii.edu) with questions or concerns. Thanks! Teresa +++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa Haven Access Technology Specialist KOKUA Program University of Hawai'i Manoa +++++++++++++++++++++++ From djbrky at bu.edu Wed Oct 10 06:31:58 2007 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections In-Reply-To: <005501c80a71$6c635310$4529f930$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C711605796CBC@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> Terry - or whomever takes on this responsibility - please take note that Article 5 of the by-laws does not specifically state that we shall have two Vice-Presidents. Sec. 5.1: The officers of the network shall be an Executive Committee and be comprised of a President, one or more Vice Presidents, a Secretary, a Treasurer, and such other temporary officer or officers as the Executive Committee may from time to time determine. Sec. 5.6 refers specifically to a Vice-President (singular) I am just pointing this out as it may mean that by Pratik stepping down we will only need to nominate and elect a single V.P. ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:39 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections I am sure you are right :-) The person who takes this on needs to oversee the process of the election 1. Solicit candidates and if they wish personal statements of qualification or merit for the office they are seeking 2. Verify that all candidates are members in good standing 3. Provide election information to Sean Keegan for placement on the website 4. Overseen the in person and electronic election process. 5. Verify that only members votes are tabulated 6. Count the votes and announce the results. There is probably more but I think this pretty much covers it. Elections are to be held in conjunction with AHG so time is fairly short. The offices are President - Currently occupied by me, and yes I am willing to continue on Vice President West - Currently occupied by Dan Comden Vice President East - Currently occupied by Pratik Patel who will not be seeking reelection Treasure - Currently occupied by Eileen Berger Secretary - Currently occupied by Laurie Vasquez Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:57 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections Ron, Can you say a bit more about what's involved in "overseeing the election process"? With a bit more detail as to what this entails I bet you'll be overwhelmed by eager volunteers. Terry ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djbrky at bu.edu Wed Oct 10 06:33:40 2007 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections In-Reply-To: <005501c80a71$6c635310$4529f930$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C711605796CBD@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> BTW --- I hereby announce my candidacy for Secretary. ---Dann ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:39 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections I am sure you are right :-) The person who takes this on needs to oversee the process of the election 1. Solicit candidates and if they wish personal statements of qualification or merit for the office they are seeking 2. Verify that all candidates are members in good standing 3. Provide election information to Sean Keegan for placement on the website 4. Overseen the in person and electronic election process. 5. Verify that only members votes are tabulated 6. Count the votes and announce the results. There is probably more but I think this pretty much covers it. Elections are to be held in conjunction with AHG so time is fairly short. The offices are President - Currently occupied by me, and yes I am willing to continue on Vice President West - Currently occupied by Dan Comden Vice President East - Currently occupied by Pratik Patel who will not be seeking reelection Treasure - Currently occupied by Eileen Berger Secretary - Currently occupied by Laurie Vasquez Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:57 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections Ron, Can you say a bit more about what's involved in "overseeing the election process"? With a bit more detail as to what this entails I bet you'll be overwhelmed by eager volunteers. Terry ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tft at u.washington.edu Wed Oct 10 06:56:00 2007 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections In-Reply-To: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C711605796CBC@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> Message-ID: <200710101356.l9ADu10H026800@smtp.washington.edu> I think Pratik volunteered to lead the voting effort, but that was before Ron sent out the detailed job description. You still interested, Pratik? Also, I'd be interested in hearing from either Pratik or Dan Comden (or anyone else with an opionion) as to whether the two vice presidents model has proven necessary. In my opinion it seems that ATHEN has evolved to have a topical, interest-focused structure rather than a regional one, in which case our original officer model is no longer relevant. Terry _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:32 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections Terry - or whomever takes on this responsibility - please take note that Article 5 of the by-laws does not specifically state that we shall have two Vice-Presidents. Sec. 5.1: The officers of the network shall be an Executive Committee and be comprised of a President, one or more Vice Presidents, a Secretary, a Treasurer, and such other temporary officer or officers as the Executive Committee may from time to time determine. Sec. 5.6 refers specifically to a Vice-President (singular) I am just pointing this out as it may mean that by Pratik stepping down we will only need to nominate and elect a single V.P. ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:39 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections I am sure you are right :-) The person who takes this on needs to oversee the process of the election 1. Solicit candidates and if they wish personal statements of qualification or merit for the office they are seeking 2. Verify that all candidates are members in good standing 3. Provide election information to Sean Keegan for placement on the website 4. Overseen the in person and electronic election process. 5. Verify that only members votes are tabulated 6. Count the votes and announce the results. There is probably more but I think this pretty much covers it. Elections are to be held in conjunction with AHG so time is fairly short. The offices are President - Currently occupied by me, and yes I am willing to continue on Vice President West - Currently occupied by Dan Comden Vice President East - Currently occupied by Pratik Patel who will not be seeking reelection Treasure - Currently occupied by Eileen Berger Secretary - Currently occupied by Laurie Vasquez Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:57 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections Ron, Can you say a bit more about what's involved in "overseeing the election process"? With a bit more detail as to what this entails I bet you'll be overwhelmed by eager volunteers. Terry _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 07:05:50 2007 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections In-Reply-To: <200710101356.l9ADu10H026800@smtp.washington.edu> References: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C711605796CBC@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> <200710101356.l9ADu10H026800@smtp.washington.edu> Message-ID: <05d401c80b46$ab08b530$011a1f90$@com> Terry, I'd still be happy to oversee the elections process if there are no other volunteers or no objections from the membership. As far as the VP positions go, I think we may need to look at a atopics-based approach as opposed to the regional approach as I'm not necessarily certain that there is a significant regional difference in purchasing, implementation, evaluations, etc. There is, however, a difference when it comes to international matters and ATHEN may need to look at attracting membership from other countries to get that broader perspective. And leadership that reflects this need might be good. I know it's not exactly the answer to your question. Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:56 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections I think Pratik volunteered to lead the voting effort, but that was before Ron sent out the detailed job description. You still interested, Pratik? Also, I'd be interested in hearing from either Pratik or Dan Comden (or anyone else with an opionion) as to whether the two vice presidents model has proven necessary. In my opinion it seems that ATHEN has evolved to have a topical, interest-focused structure rather than a regional one, in which case our original officer model is no longer relevant. Terry _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:32 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections Terry - or whomever takes on this responsibility - please take note that Article 5 of the by-laws does not specifically state that we shall have two Vice-Presidents. Sec. 5.1: The officers of the network shall be an Executive Committee and be comprised of a President, one or more Vice Presidents, a Secretary, a Treasurer, and such other temporary officer or officers as the Executive Committee may from time to time determine. Sec. 5.6 refers specifically to a Vice-President (singular) I am just pointing this out as it may mean that by Pratik stepping down we will only need to nominate and elect a single V.P. ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:39 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections I am sure you are right J The person who takes this on needs to oversee the process of the election 1. Solicit candidates and if they wish personal statements of qualification or merit for the office they are seeking 2. Verify that all candidates are members in good standing 3. Provide election information to Sean Keegan for placement on the website 4. Overseen the in person and electronic election process. 5. Verify that only members votes are tabulated 6. Count the votes and announce the results. There is probably more but I think this pretty much covers it. Elections are to be held in conjunction with AHG so time is fairly short. The offices are President - Currently occupied by me, and yes I am willing to continue on Vice President West - Currently occupied by Dan Comden Vice President East - Currently occupied by Pratik Patel who will not be seeking reelection Treasure - Currently occupied by Eileen Berger Secretary - Currently occupied by Laurie Vasquez Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:57 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections Ron, Can you say a bit more about what's involved in "overseeing the election process"? With a bit more detail as to what this entails I bet you'll be overwhelmed by eager volunteers. Terry _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From moyerf at ecc.edu Thu Oct 4 07:28:57 2007 From: moyerf at ecc.edu (Moyer, Frances) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] mailing list Message-ID: I am legally blind and am employed at a college. Due to my work with students with disabilities, I need access to electronic books. I would like to be included on your mailing list so I may access book share. Please send me more information. Thank you Fran Moyer, Counselor Disabled Student Services Erie Community College 4041 Southwestern Blvd Orchard Park , NY 14127 Phone: 851-1933 Fax: 851-1629 Moyerf@ecc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Wed Oct 10 12:49:57 2007 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007c01c80b76$bd727320$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Hi Fran, The ATHEN list does not have any association with Bookshare. If you wish to access books through Bookshare, you would need to contact them directly at www.bookshare.org . Here is the link to their membership page: http://www.bookshare.org/web/AboutMembership.html ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Moyer, Frances Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:29 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] mailing list I am legally blind and am employed at a college. Due to my work with students with disabilities, I need access to electronic books. I would like to be included on your mailing list so I may access book share. Please send me more information. Thank you Fran Moyer, Counselor Disabled Student Services Erie Community College 4041 Southwestern Blvd Orchard Park , NY 14127 Phone: 851-1933 Fax: 851-1629 Moyerf@ecc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Wed Oct 10 13:47:12 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections In-Reply-To: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C711605796CBC@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> References: <005501c80a71$6c635310$4529f930$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C711605796CBC@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> Message-ID: <00c101c80b7e$bec697d0$3c53c770$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> My original logic in suggesting two VP's was to get more people involved in the decision making process more than anything else. We really only need one now that we have become a viable group. Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:32 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections Terry - or whomever takes on this responsibility - please take note that Article 5 of the by-laws does not specifically state that we shall have two Vice-Presidents. Sec. 5.1: The officers of the network shall be an Executive Committee and be comprised of a President, one or more Vice Presidents, a Secretary, a Treasurer, and such other temporary officer or officers as the Executive Committee may from time to time determine. Sec. 5.6 refers specifically to a Vice-President (singular) I am just pointing this out as it may mean that by Pratik stepping down we will only need to nominate and elect a single V.P. ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:39 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections I am sure you are right J The person who takes this on needs to oversee the process of the election 1. Solicit candidates and if they wish personal statements of qualification or merit for the office they are seeking 2. Verify that all candidates are members in good standing 3. Provide election information to Sean Keegan for placement on the website 4. Overseen the in person and electronic election process. 5. Verify that only members votes are tabulated 6. Count the votes and announce the results. There is probably more but I think this pretty much covers it. Elections are to be held in conjunction with AHG so time is fairly short. The offices are President - Currently occupied by me, and yes I am willing to continue on Vice President West - Currently occupied by Dan Comden Vice President East - Currently occupied by Pratik Patel who will not be seeking reelection Treasure - Currently occupied by Eileen Berger Secretary - Currently occupied by Laurie Vasquez Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:57 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections Ron, Can you say a bit more about what's involved in "overseeing the election process"? With a bit more detail as to what this entails I bet you'll be overwhelmed by eager volunteers. Terry _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Elections Importance: High Hear yea, hear yea It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things to make this happen and I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is fast approaching. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jongund at uiuc.edu Wed Oct 10 14:47:58 2007 From: jongund at uiuc.edu (Jon Gunderson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Web Accessibility Sepcialist Position at UIUC Message-ID: <20071010164758.AXB19822@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu> The following Web Accessibility position is available at the University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign. Please consider this position and share with other people you think may be interested. More information at: http://www.cites.uiuc.edu/jobs/20071008-doc.html Duties and Responsibilities: * Customizes or recodes software and web interfaces to improve functional accessibility; * Works with CITES developers from the initial planning stages of new applications to incorporate accessibility and user-centered design; * Educates developers and service managers about accessible design and best practices; * Contributes to annual Illinois Board of Higher Education (IBHE) report on web accessibility regarding improvements in CITES services; * Works with Documentation Group manager to develop metrics of success for projects; * Stays abreast of new accessibility technologies and standards; * Shares knowledge with colleagues in CITES, DRES, and the library. Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology (DRES) WWW: http://www.cita.uiuc.edu/ WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/ From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Wed Oct 10 15:34:51 2007 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (normajean.brand) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] epilepsy and computer screens Message-ID: Hello again, I have a DSSO asking for help and I am now turning to you all: Could you check to see what accommodations can be given for someone with epilepsy, who can get seizures by using a normal computer even with a screen filter. Perhaps someone from Crystal Vision or Kurzweil or even one of your listserves will have some suggestions or know of equipment. Thanks. My research included: The American Epilepsy Foundation, Epilepsy Ontario, W3C, Section 508.gov, Scientific American, Science Daily, National Society for Epilepsy (UK), Epilepsy Action (UK), Usability.gov, Job Accommodation Network, and WebAIM.org . From what I gathered from these sites is that a high-quality LCD, flat panel monitor and coupling that with a glare screen should not induce seizures. When I suggested this solution the student was pretty adamant that this would not work for her. This student is not visually-impaired and suggesting JAWS with the monitor turned off seems to be a bit more than it should although this student is certainly welcome to learn the program. I wonder also about taking classes in rooms where more and more computers are being deployed and not just for CompSci classes; and how this seizure disorder will affect her. Any suggestions? Thank you again for all your help. NJ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Personal Mission Statement Integrity, trust, commitment and talent is the foundation of my existence. My dedication to providing the highest level of technical expertise to help solve client's problems is why I'm here. I strive to create, innovate, and to research solutions to meet and exceed expectations. -- NJ Brand ----------------------------------------------------------------------- NJ Brand Houston Community College-NW Technical Support and Innovation Center Assistive Technology Specialist/Sr. Lab Assistant Town and Country Square Campus MC 1379 Room RC13 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. Houston TX 77043 VM/Office: 713.718.5604 FAX: 713.718.5430 Email: normajean.brand@hccs.edu http://nwc.hccs.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djbrky at bu.edu Wed Oct 10 15:42:48 2007 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] epilepsy and computer screens References: Message-ID: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C7116031C70B0@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> NJ -- Reads to me as though you have researched this question about as far as anyone can. The JAWS with the monitor turned off is nice outside-the-box thinking and having the ability to train and support the student is a benefit of your program. If the student is adamant that none of your suggestions will work - the next step is to ask the student directly "what will"? When you reach the end of the rope -- ask the personally hold the knot. ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of normajean.brand Sent: Wed 10/10/2007 6:34 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] epilepsy and computer screens Hello again, I have a DSSO asking for help and I am now turning to you all: Could you check to see what accommodations can be given for someone with epilepsy, who can get seizures by using a normal computer even with a screen filter. Perhaps someone from Crystal Vision or Kurzweil or even one of your listserves will have some suggestions or know of equipment. Thanks. My research included: The American Epilepsy Foundation, Epilepsy Ontario, W3C, Section 508.gov, Scientific American, Science Daily, National Society for Epilepsy (UK), Epilepsy Action (UK), Usability.gov, Job Accommodation Network, and WebAIM.org . >From what I gathered from these sites is that a high-quality LCD, flat panel monitor and coupling that with a glare screen should not induce seizures. When I suggested this solution the student was pretty adamant that this would not work for her. This student is not visually-impaired and suggesting JAWS with the monitor turned off seems to be a bit more than it should although this student is certainly welcome to learn the program. I wonder also about taking classes in rooms where more and more computers are being deployed and not just for CompSci classes; and how this seizure disorder will affect her. Any suggestions? Thank you again for all your help. NJ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Personal Mission Statement Integrity, trust, commitment and talent is the foundation of my existence. My dedication to providing the highest level of technical expertise to help solve client's problems is why I'm here. I strive to create, innovate, and to research solutions to meet and exceed expectations. -- NJ Brand ----------------------------------------------------------------------- NJ Brand Houston Community College-NW Technical Support and Innovation Center Assistive Technology Specialist/Sr. Lab Assistant Town and Country Square Campus MC 1379 Room RC13 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. Houston TX 77043 VM/Office: 713.718.5604 FAX: 713.718.5430 Email: normajean.brand@hccs.edu http://nwc.hccs.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From thaven at hawaii.edu Wed Oct 10 15:55:08 2007 From: thaven at hawaii.edu (Teresa LW Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] epilepsy and computer screens In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001401c80b90$9b3272f0$0c71ab80@KOKUAAT> Hi, NJ. I agree with Dann. I'm also currently working with a student for whom even LCD screens and/or screens with glare shields cause seizures; she also can't watch TV, go to movies, etc., and even the flickering light when the bus she rides passes by a group of trees will sometimes trigger seizures for her. JAWS is the solution we are pursuing for her after brainstorming everything else we could come up with. Of course, each person with a seizure disability is somewhat different, but the student I'm working with indicated that she's ok in a room with computers so long as she does not have to attempt to focus on the screen but can divert her gaze elsewhere and still work. Hope this helps, Teresa +++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa Haven Access Technology Specialist KOKUA Program University of Hawai'i Manoa +++++++++++++++++++++++ _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of normajean.brand Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:35 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] epilepsy and computer screens Hello again, I have a DSSO asking for help and I am now turning to you all: Could you check to see what accommodations can be given for someone with epilepsy, who can get seizures by using a normal computer even with a screen filter. Perhaps someone from Crystal Vision or Kurzweil or even one of your listserves will have some suggestions or know of equipment. Thanks. My research included: The American Epilepsy Foundation, Epilepsy Ontario, W3C, Section 508.gov, Scientific American, Science Daily, National Society for Epilepsy (UK), Epilepsy Action (UK), Usability.gov, Job Accommodation Network, and WebAIM.org . >From what I gathered from these sites is that a high-quality LCD, flat panel monitor and coupling that with a glare screen should not induce seizures. When I suggested this solution the student was pretty adamant that this would not work for her. This student is not visually-impaired and suggesting JAWS with the monitor turned off seems to be a bit more than it should although this student is certainly welcome to learn the program. I wonder also about taking classes in rooms where more and more computers are being deployed and not just for CompSci classes; and how this seizure disorder will affect her. Any suggestions? Thank you again for all your help. NJ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Personal Mission Statement Integrity, trust, commitment and talent is the foundation of my existence. My dedication to providing the highest level of technical expertise to help solve client's problems is why I'm here. I strive to create, innovate, and to research solutions to meet and exceed expectations. -- NJ Brand ----------------------------------------------------------------------- NJ Brand Houston Community College-NW Technical Support and Innovation Center Assistive Technology Specialist/Sr. Lab Assistant Town and Country Square Campus MC 1379 Room RC13 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. Houston TX 77043 VM/Office: 713.718.5604 FAX: 713.718.5430 Email: normajean.brand@hccs.edu http://nwc.hccs.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 06:48:34 2007 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections In-Reply-To: <6389776133690868015@unknownmsgid> References: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C711605796CBC@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> <6389776133690868015@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <6e0d34c90710110648h106aeaf0h26cad1abfdf656f9@mail.gmail.com> Happy fall, y'all! I'll step out on a limb and announce that I'd be willing to take on the position of Treasurer if Eileen Berger is no longer interested. But if she is, that's great!!! Guess I should ask...Membership list and dues... What else does the position entail?? Heidi Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Interim Assistant Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 (479) 575-3104 (voice) (479) 575-7445 (fax) (479) 575-3646 (tdd) On 10/10/07, Ron Stewart wrote: > > > > > My original logic in suggesting two VP's was to get more people involved in > the decision making process more than anything else. We really only need > one now that we have become a viable group. > > > > Ron > > > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:32 AM > > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections > > > > > Terry ? or whomever takes on this responsibility ? please take note that > Article 5 of the by-laws does not specifically state that we shall have two > Vice-Presidents. > > > > Sec. 5.1: The officers of the network shall be an Executive Committee and be > comprised of a President, one or more Vice Presidents, a Secretary, a > Treasurer, and such other temporary officer or officers as the Executive > Committee may from time to time determine. > > > > Sec. 5.6 refers specifically to a Vice-President (singular) > > > > I am just pointing this out as it may mean that by Pratik stepping down we > will only need to nominate and elect a single V.P. > > > > ========================= > Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director > Boston University Office of Disability Services > 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor > Boston, MA 02215 > > (617) 353-3658 (office) > (617) 353-9646 (fax) > djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) > www.bu.edu/disability > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:39 AM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections > > > > I am sure you are right J > > > > The person who takes this on needs to oversee the process of the election > > 1. Solicit candidates and if they wish personal statements of > qualification or merit for the office they are seeking > > 2. Verify that all candidates are members in good standing > > 3. Provide election information to Sean Keegan for placement on the > website > > 4. Overseen the in person and electronic election process. > > 5. Verify that only members votes are tabulated > > 6. Count the votes and announce the results. > > > > There is probably more but I think this pretty much covers it. Elections > are to be held in conjunction with AHG so time is fairly short. > > > > The offices are > > President ? Currently occupied by me, and yes I am willing to continue on > > Vice President West ? Currently occupied by Dan Comden > > Vice President East ? Currently occupied by Pratik Patel who will not be > seeking reelection > > Treasure ? Currently occupied by Eileen Berger > > Secretary ? Currently occupied by Laurie Vasquez > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Terry Thompson > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:57 PM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections > > > > Ron, > > Can you say a bit more about what's involved in "overseeing the election > process"? With a bit more detail as to what this entails I bet you'll be > overwhelmed by eager volunteers. > > > > Terry > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Elections > Importance: High > > Hear yea, hear yea > > It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in > conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things > to make this happen and > > I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee > the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is > fast approaching. > > Ron Stewart > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > From rbeach at kckcc.edu Thu Oct 11 06:57:34 2007 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections In-Reply-To: <6e0d34c90710110648h106aeaf0h26cad1abfdf656f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C711605796CBC@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> <6389776133690868015@unknownmsgid> <6e0d34c90710110648h106aeaf0h26cad1abfdf656f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <470DE57E020000CF000035A7@mymail.kckcc.edu> You have to provide home-made brownies for every meeting. Okay, you can't blame a guy for trying. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Heidi Scher" 10/11/2007 8:48 AM >>> Happy fall, y'all! I'll step out on a limb and announce that I'd be willing to take on the position of Treasurer if Eileen Berger is no longer interested. But if she is, that's great!!! Guess I should ask...Membership list and dues... What else does the position entail?? Heidi Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Interim Assistant Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 (479) 575-3104 (voice) (479) 575-7445 (fax) (479) 575-3646 (tdd) On 10/10/07, Ron Stewart wrote: > > > > > My original logic in suggesting two VP's was to get more people involved in > the decision making process more than anything else. We really only need > one now that we have become a viable group. > > > > Ron > > > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:32 AM > > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections > > > > > Terry ? or whomever takes on this responsibility ? please take note that > Article 5 of the by-laws does not specifically state that we shall have two > Vice-Presidents. > > > > Sec. 5.1: The officers of the network shall be an Executive Committee and be > comprised of a President, one or more Vice Presidents, a Secretary, a > Treasurer, and such other temporary officer or officers as the Executive > Committee may from time to time determine. > > > > Sec. 5.6 refers specifically to a Vice-President (singular) > > > > I am just pointing this out as it may mean that by Pratik stepping down we > will only need to nominate and elect a single V.P. > > > > ========================= > Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director > Boston University Office of Disability Services > 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor > Boston, MA 02215 > > (617) 353-3658 (office) > (617) 353-9646 (fax) > djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) > www.bu.edu/disability > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:39 AM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Elections > > > > I am sure you are right J > > > > The person who takes this on needs to oversee the process of the election > > 1. Solicit candidates and if they wish personal statements of > qualification or merit for the office they are seeking > > 2. Verify that all candidates are members in good standing > > 3. Provide election information to Sean Keegan for placement on the > website > > 4. Overseen the in person and electronic election process. > > 5. Verify that only members votes are tabulated > > 6. Count the votes and announce the results. > > > > There is probably more but I think this pretty much covers it. Elections > are to be held in conjunction with AHG so time is fairly short. > > > > The offices are > > President ? Currently occupied by me, and yes I am willing to continue on > > Vice President West ? Currently occupied by Dan Comden > > Vice President East ? Currently occupied by Pratik Patel who will not be > seeking reelection > > Treasure ? Currently occupied by Eileen Berger > > Secretary ? Currently occupied by Laurie Vasquez > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Terry Thompson > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:57 PM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Elections > > > > Ron, > > Can you say a bit more about what's involved in "overseeing the election > process"? With a bit more detail as to what this entails I bet you'll be > overwhelmed by eager volunteers. > > > > Terry > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:08 PM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Elections > Importance: High > > Hear yea, hear yea > > It is time to consider the next ATHEN elections which are to be held in > conjunction with the AHG conference next month. We need to do a few things > to make this happen and > > I would like an involved and unbiased member of ATHEN to agree to oversee > the elections process this year, but we need to do this quickly since AHG is > fast approaching. > > Ron Stewart > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From johumber at iupui.edu Thu Oct 11 08:49:14 2007 From: johumber at iupui.edu (Humbert, Joseph A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Elections Message-ID: <68376C7215E47C4BAE6271B0AA82C9FF051D0DF4@iu-mssg-mbx105.ads.iu.edu> Hi! I would like to run for membership chair. Though I will not be able to attend AHG because I will be at a conference in Georgia. Thankx. Joe Humbert Assistive Technology Specialist Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI) Office: IT 214E Email: johumber@iupui.edu Phone: 317-274-4378 Cell: 847-431-6545 AIM:ATCIUPUI -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Thu Oct 11 09:57:48 2007 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] remote CART transcription Message-ID: <46E37C0400004CD3@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Hi ATHEN-ites and DSSHE-Landers, Tons of questions for your great collective minds today! How many of you out there are using off-site, remote CART transcription services on your campuses? For those of you who are using this service, what are some of the technology obstacles you have faced? How did you solve them? What set up has worked the best? Any problems with internet firewalls? I'm looking for specifics. We can use your great collective wisdom and apply to our set up here to problem-solve/work out the technology. There seems to be a number of services available, all of which use proprietary software of some kind for their transcription delivery. Any advantages or drawbacks to this? What sort of microphone set up works best? Corded? Wireless? Bluetooth? Wireless FM? Conference (speaker) mic? Any objections/comments from the instructors in terms of the kind of mic they use? What seems to be the most convenient for them? For example, some of the services say the instructor should use a cell phone for the broadcast mic, calling long distance to the service. Some service providers say to use the hard-wired phone in the classroom. Some say to use a bluetooth connected to the student's computer (that would have to be some juiced up, mega-watt computer to be able to simultaneously send audio & receive text!!). How about challenges brought up by your IT depts? What has worked the best for you? In terms of the technology itself, how does a remote CART service handle discussion groups or class Q&A if the instructor has the mic clipped to his/her lapel? How does the student who is Deaf or HoH ask/answer questions or interact with the class? For onsite transcription, the provider types everything that is said, including questions & discussion from among the other students. Can the remote technology handle this? It is easy to see how this service would benefit the college(s) and the students who are D or HoH in terms of flexibility & convenience (and cost!). I want to make sure we look at the student's perspective both as a receiver of information and as a participant in the class. Thanks in advance for all your collective wisdom, expertise and technical guidance. As always, I am in your debt! Blessings, Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From djbrky at bu.edu Fri Oct 12 07:31:15 2007 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] America's Next Top Model Update Message-ID: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C71160582AD6D@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> Sorry about the cross-post but it is a Friday and I cannot resist sharing the news that a former student employee of mine has had quite a run of success on the reality show America's Next Top Model. Sarah recently won the weekly competition and can be seen on the Cover Girl website: http://www.covergirl.com/antm/sarah/index.jsp ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability From ea at emptech.info Fri Oct 12 15:44:38 2007 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] America's Next Top Model Update In-Reply-To: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C71160582AD6D@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> References: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C71160582AD6D@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> Message-ID: <002001c80d21$78908c40$0a01a8c0@laptop> Well I can see all of us trying to make AHG the event of the year are going to have something to live up to! Must go and check out my eyeliner and my liquid make-up! (although I know I can only bring 100mls on the plane!) Congratulations to Sarah :>)) Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab ECS, University of Southampton Tel: +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info/ -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Berkowitz, Daniel J Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 3:31 PM To: icu@janejarrow.com; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; Alternate Media; Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] America's Next Top Model Update Sorry about the cross-post but it is a Friday and I cannot resist sharing the news that a former student employee of mine has had quite a run of success on the reality show America's Next Top Model. Sarah recently won the weekly competition and can be seen on the Cover Girl website: http://www.covergirl.com/antm/sarah/index.jsp ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 11/10/2007 15:09 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 11/10/2007 15:09 From pratikp1 at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 15:37:52 2007 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Nomination of Officers Message-ID: <056a01c81045$31bd8170$95388450$@com> Dear colleagues, As you might have noted from the e-mail messages that have passed back and forth over the last week, ATHEN is getting ready to conduct its annual election of officers prior to (and in conjunction with) the Accessing Higher Ground Conference. The absence of unanimous egging leads me to be the sole volunteer overseeing this election process. I would ask that you please read this message in its entirety as it contains instructions on the first phase of this endeavor. With this message, we open up the virtual floor for nominations for the following officer positions in accordance with ATHEN's by-laws (http://www.athenpro.org/node/23): 1. President 2. One or more vice presidents 3. Secretary 4. Treasurer For a list of officer duties, see article IV, Sections 5.5 through 5.8. All nominations must be submitted no later than 11:59 PM eastern on Sunday October 28, 2007. If you are self nominating or nominating an individual for a position with his/her knowledge, you may submit the nomination to the ATHEN discussion list (Access Technologists in Higher Education Network [athen@athenpro.org]). All individuals nominated for a position must accept the nomination. If you are nominating an individual or individuals for positions without his/her knowledge--and such a practice is highly discouraged, please forward the nomination to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. Please provide the nominee's full contact information in order to verify acceptance. If you do not feel comfortable nominating someone over the ATHEN discussion list, you may also forward the nomination to be privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. Advanced apologies for the inconvenience; however, please note that individuals who may have expressed interest in running for a position prior to the beginning of the nomination process must officially declare his/her willingness to run for a position through the nominations process as outlined in this message. All candidates must submit a statement that states his/her qualifications for the position being sought prior to the beginning of the voting process. Online voting will begin a few days after nominations have been submitted and will run through the morning of November 8, 2007 more information on the voting process will be available in a separate message. Please do not hesitate to address any questions on the nominations process to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. I look forward to the nominations process and the subsequent voting. Warm regards, Pratik Pratik Patel Director, IT Access. Director, PeopleTech The City University of New York mailto: pratikp1@gmail.com PeopleTech Project Site From jjohnson at htctu.net Tue Oct 16 17:00:55 2007 From: jjohnson at htctu.net (Jayme Johnson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] New Mac OS 10.5 release date announced Message-ID: <007201c81050$ca9faf70$9b821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Hello everyone, I just learned about the release date of the new version of the Macintosh operating system. Mac OS 10.5, also known as Leopard, will be available for purchase on October 26, 2007. This revision to the Macintosh operating system has been long awaited, and it looks like there are many improvements. In terms of accessibility, the new operating system boasts plug and play support for refreshable Braille displays in addition to much improved functionality for Braille in general. Apple has included a new TTS voice, called "Alex", which is receiving rave reviews. The functionality of Voice Over (the native screen reader for Mac OS X) has been improved as well, now allowing for total control via the keyboard, as well as offering the ability to highlight words and sentences as they are read aloud. There are also improvements to sonic feedback options for various aspects of computer use, including positional audio effects and greater ability for customizing the features and functionality of Voice Over. Perhaps most interesting in terms of providing student access, Voice Over settings can be loaded onto a flash memory drive and be used to instantly reconfigure the Voice Over settings on any other Mac OS 10.5 computer- and when you remove the flash drive the Voice Over settings will automatically revert back to their original state. Read more about these and other Mac OS 10.5 accessibility enhancements at http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html#universalaccess. For a general overview of the Mac Os, visit http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html#universalaccess. Jayme Johnson Assistive Computer Technology Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 408-996-6045 www.htctu.net From gdietrich at htctu.net Tue Oct 16 17:39:05 2007 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Nomination of Officers In-Reply-To: <056a01c81045$31bd8170$95388450$@com> References: <056a01c81045$31bd8170$95388450$@com> Message-ID: <00d601c81056$1f66c5c0$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Thank you, Pratik, for taking on this role with such aplomb. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:38 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Nomination of Officers Importance: High Dear colleagues, As you might have noted from the e-mail messages that have passed back and forth over the last week, ATHEN is getting ready to conduct its annual election of officers prior to (and in conjunction with) the Accessing Higher Ground Conference. The absence of unanimous egging leads me to be the sole volunteer overseeing this election process. I would ask that you please read this message in its entirety as it contains instructions on the first phase of this endeavor. With this message, we open up the virtual floor for nominations for the following officer positions in accordance with ATHEN's by-laws (http://www.athenpro.org/node/23): 1. President 2. One or more vice presidents 3. Secretary 4. Treasurer For a list of officer duties, see article IV, Sections 5.5 through 5.8. All nominations must be submitted no later than 11:59 PM eastern on Sunday October 28, 2007. If you are self nominating or nominating an individual for a position with his/her knowledge, you may submit the nomination to the ATHEN discussion list (Access Technologists in Higher Education Network [athen@athenpro.org]). All individuals nominated for a position must accept the nomination. If you are nominating an individual or individuals for positions without his/her knowledge--and such a practice is highly discouraged, please forward the nomination to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. Please provide the nominee's full contact information in order to verify acceptance. If you do not feel comfortable nominating someone over the ATHEN discussion list, you may also forward the nomination to be privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. Advanced apologies for the inconvenience; however, please note that individuals who may have expressed interest in running for a position prior to the beginning of the nomination process must officially declare his/her willingness to run for a position through the nominations process as outlined in this message. All candidates must submit a statement that states his/her qualifications for the position being sought prior to the beginning of the voting process. Online voting will begin a few days after nominations have been submitted and will run through the morning of November 8, 2007 more information on the voting process will be available in a separate message. Please do not hesitate to address any questions on the nominations process to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. I look forward to the nominations process and the subsequent voting. Warm regards, Pratik Pratik Patel Director, IT Access. Director, PeopleTech The City University of New York mailto: pratikp1@gmail.com PeopleTech Project Site _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From sarah.horton at Dartmouth.EDU Wed Oct 17 04:51:56 2007 From: sarah.horton at Dartmouth.EDU (Sarah Horton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] WUDNE 2007 almost full! Message-ID: <6E80BD17-0346-4E6C-98A0-D9D3A66012F2@dartmouth.edu> Hello, folks. There are just a few slots remaining for the World Usability Day New England conference, so sign up soon if you plan to attend. I've appended the announcement, below. -------- World Usability Day New England - Open for Registration Greetings! We are now accepting registrations for the Third Annual World Usability Day New England conference, to be held on November 8, 2007 at Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire, USA. We had a great response to our request for proposals, and are pleased to announce the program line up: Keynote - The New Science of Universal Usability ? Ben Shneiderman, University of Maryland at College Park Track 1: Teaching and Learning - Universal Design in Instruction: Moving Beyond Accessibility into Classroom Application ? Manju Banerjee, University of Connecticut and Loring C. Brinckerhoff, Educational Testing Service - Making E-learning Usable at The Hadley School for the Blind ? Michael C. Rydel and Andre Lukatsky, Hadley School for the Blind Track 2: Web Usability - Universal Usability of Dynamic Content ? Marguerite Bergel and Ann Chadwick?Dias, Fidelity Investments - Adaptive Design for Web Environments ? Sarah Horton, Dartmouth College and Patrick J. Lynch, Yale University In addition, we will have a poster and demo session featuring technologies and methodologies that support universal usability, followed by a student panel, where learners share their experiences as beneficiaries of universal usability. We will conclude the day with a roundtable discussion on Design, Creativity, Learning, and Usability, led by Steve Fadden from Landmark College. The conference registration fee is $60, which includes meals and refreshments. You may pay by check or online using Google Checkout. Register online at http://www.dartmouth.edu/~wud/. Don?t delay as space is limited! Please contact Sarah Horton at sarah.horton@dartmouth.edu or 603 646-1087 with any questions or concerns. Best regards, Sarah Horton, Susan Fliss, and Larry Cusick Dartmouth College www.dartmouth.edu Steve Fadden, Julie Strothman, and Stephanie Kreseen Landmark College www.landmark.edu WUDNE 2007 Third Annual World Usability Day New England Universal Usability in Teaching and Learning Dartmouth College Hanover, New Hampshire, USA November 8, 2007 9:00am ? 4:00pm www.dartmouth.edu/~wud From dhayman at u.washington.edu Wed Oct 17 09:49:04 2007 From: dhayman at u.washington.edu (Doug Hayman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] onscreen keyboard access at XP login? Message-ID: I had an inquiry yesterday about how to have the onscreen keyboard be active at the login [not after you've logged in]. I've tried putting osk.exe in the scheduled tasks with three different settings, "at login", "at startup", "when idle" and none work so that a user can use the onscreen keyboard to enter his/her password in the login promp for XP. Is there a way to do this? Doug Hayman Technology Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) Box 355670 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit From johumber at iupui.edu Wed Oct 17 10:00:15 2007 From: johumber at iupui.edu (Humbert, Joseph A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Mathml and JAWS Message-ID: <68376C7215E47C4BAE6271B0AA82C9FF053D5883@iu-mssg-mbx105.ads.iu.edu> Hi! I had a question from a department, " Is any special coding needed for math ML to be read correctly by screen readers?" Any Answers? I found conflicting info on the Web. I also tried Mathplayer and it didn't seem to read it correctly with JAWS. Any suggestions? Thankx. Joe Humbert Assistive Technology Specialist Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI) Office: IT 214E Email: johumber@iupui.edu Phone: 317-274-4378 Cell: 847-431-6545 AIM:ATCIUPUI -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However, there is no counterpart service name for the OSK in Windows, so it won't work. As far as I found. However, there was a website of a person who claims to have created a Service from scratch to cause OSK to run during login and then self-terminate to free up resources. This is the website: http://lists.becta.org.uk/pipermail/senit/2005-October/009619.html However it might be easier to install a 3rd party OSK. One website said OSKGina from Siemens works, but I would think others exist too. Anyway, here's the link to the OSKGina: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://support.autom ation.siemens.com/WW/llisapi.dll/23805805%3Fnodeid0%3D10805572%26func%3D ll%26objId%3D23805805%26objAction%3DcsView%26lang%3Dde%26siteid%3Dcseus% 26aktprim%3D0%26extranet%3Dstandard%26load%3Dtreecontent&sa=X&oi=transla te&resnum=5&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DOSKGina%2Bdownload%26hl%3Den Does Vista have the capability to run the OSK as a service? I don't know. Would be a great idea to add it in one of their Service Packs if it doesn't. James A. Weier Adaptive Tech. Specialist/Access Office St. Louis Community College 3400 Pershall Road Ferguson, MO. 63135 314-513-4162 (voice) 314-513-4876 (fax) jweier@stlcc.edu There are 3 basic types: the Wills, the Won'ts and the Can'ts. The Wills accomplish everything, the Won'ts oppose everything, and the Can'ts won't try anything. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Doug Hayman Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:49 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] onscreen keyboard access at XP login? I had an inquiry yesterday about how to have the onscreen keyboard be active at the login [not after you've logged in]. I've tried putting osk.exe in the scheduled tasks with three different settings, "at login", "at startup", "when idle" and none work so that a user can use the onscreen keyboard to enter his/her password in the login promp for XP. Is there a way to do this? Doug Hayman Technology Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) Box 355670 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From JElmer at vcccd.edu Wed Oct 17 10:53:43 2007 From: JElmer at vcccd.edu (John Elmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Need stats In-Reply-To: <015601c810e5$9861f190$c925d4b0$@org> Message-ID: Ron, Could you clarify a bit more what you mean by curricular access? Are you just talking about instructional media/materials? Are you talking about testing accommodations? Just want to be sure that I give the information you are actually seeking. ASL interpreters? etc. etc. John F. Elmer Alternate Media Specialist Ventura College Educational Assistance Center (DSP&S) 4667 Telegraph Road Ventura, CA 93003 805.654.6400, x1278 Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org 10/17/2007 10:46 AM Please respond to Access Technologists in Higher Education Network To , "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" cc Subject [Athen] Need stats Good afternoon, I have a request for hard data on the actual numbers of students being served in HE by DS offices, and the numbers being provided accommodations for curricular access. Please send this to me off line if you have anything to contribute and I will aggregate and share what I receive. Ron Stewart_______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Wed Oct 17 11:17:03 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Need stats In-Reply-To: References: <015601c810e5$9861f190$c925d4b0$@org> Message-ID: <018b01c810e9$edea0360$c9be0a20$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> I would actually be interested in both but what is being asked for is in regards to instructional media/materials in particular. Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of John Elmer Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:54 PM Cc: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; athen-bounces@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] Need stats Ron, Could you clarify a bit more what you mean by curricular access? Are you just talking about instructional media/materials? Are you talking about testing accommodations? Just want to be sure that I give the information you are actually seeking. ASL interpreters? etc. etc. John F. Elmer Alternate Media Specialist Ventura College Educational Assistance Center (DSP&S) 4667 Telegraph Road Ventura, CA 93003 805.654.6400, x1278 Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org 10/17/2007 10:46 AM Please respond to Access Technologists in Higher Education Network To , "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" cc Subject [Athen] Need stats Good afternoon, I have a request for hard data on the actual numbers of students being served in HE by DS offices, and the numbers being provided accommodations for curricular access. Please send this to me off line if you have anything to contribute and I will aggregate and share what I receive. Ron Stewart_______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at htctu.net Wed Oct 17 11:19:13 2007 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Mathml and JAWS In-Reply-To: <68376C7215E47C4BAE6271B0AA82C9FF053D5883@iu-mssg-mbx105.ads.iu.edu> References: <68376C7215E47C4BAE6271B0AA82C9FF053D5883@iu-mssg-mbx105.ads.iu.edu> Message-ID: <001801c810ea$390eebd0$99821299@htctu.fhda.edu> > Is any special coding needed for math ML to be read correctly by screen readers? Right now, for MathML based Web pages to be interpreted correctly by assistive technology you need to be using MathPlayer with Internet Explorer. The only special coding that I am aware of in this situation is the need to have additional declarations in the part of the your XHTML/HTML document. Here is the basic template of the code at: http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/author/creatingpages.htm#Anatom yMathPlayerWebPage If creating MathML Web pages from MathType/MS Word, then you do have to be careful with respect to the export option. If you wish to view the Web page on your local computer (not via the Internet), then you need to export as MathPlayer (IE Behavior). This will result in a HTML document that only works with IE. If you are going to put this page on a webserver AND want the content available to IE, Firefox, etc. browsers, then you need to export as XHTML+MathML. This page will not be "readable" with IE on your local machine, but if you upload it to your webserver, it should work fine. > I also tried Mathplayer and it didn't seem to read it correctly with JAWS. Any suggestions? MathPlayer is just a plug-in that allows for MathML content to be displayed in IE. The best analogy may be that MathPlayer is something like the Flash player - it only initializes when necessary based on page content. Alone MathPlayer will speak the expression using the voices available on the computer. If using a screen-reader (JAWS, Supernova, Window-Eyes), then all you need to do is have the screen-reader running when you get to the page - the screen-reader will just read the content as any other text content on the page. What browser were you using and what screen-reader version? Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alice.anderson at doit.wisc.edu Wed Oct 17 11:52:10 2007 From: alice.anderson at doit.wisc.edu (Alice Anderson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning Tool - 'World Caption' In-Reply-To: <007201c81050$ca9faf70$9b821299@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <007201c81050$ca9faf70$9b821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <125D1355-27DA-4BF5-A7E9-6ACAA9BC2A02@doit.wisc.edu> not sure I shared this ... a tool developed on this campus that makes captioning easier than any other tool I've used, (and is free) ... for Mac OX X version 10.4 or later ... more info about the 'World Caption Tool at: http://www.journalism.wisc.edu/worldcaption/ or: http://kb.wisc.edu/helpdesk/page.php?id=6525 Best, Alice Anderson University of Wisconsin-Madison From janna.cameron at desire2learn.com Wed Oct 17 12:00:47 2007 From: janna.cameron at desire2learn.com (Janna Cameron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Mathml and JAWS In-Reply-To: <001801c810ea$390eebd0$99821299@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <68376C7215E47C4BAE6271B0AA82C9FF053D5883@iu-mssg-mbx105.ads.iu.edu> <001801c810ea$390eebd0$99821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: Doesn't MathML work well in Firefox - without a plugin? I know there is some rendering issues if some fonts aren't installed, Janna ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: October 17, 2007 2:19 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Mathml and JAWS > Is any special coding needed for math ML to be read correctly by screen readers? Right now, for MathML based Web pages to be interpreted correctly by assistive technology you need to be using MathPlayer with Internet Explorer. The only special coding that I am aware of in this situation is the need to have additional declarations in the part of the your XHTML/HTML document. Here is the basic template of the code at: http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/author/creatingpages.htm#An atomyMathPlayerWebPage If creating MathML Web pages from MathType/MS Word, then you do have to be careful with respect to the export option. If you wish to view the Web page on your local computer (not via the Internet), then you need to export as MathPlayer (IE Behavior). This will result in a HTML document that only works with IE. If you are going to put this page on a webserver AND want the content available to IE, Firefox, etc. browsers, then you need to export as XHTML+MathML. This page will not be "readable" with IE on your local machine, but if you upload it to your webserver, it should work fine. > I also tried Mathplayer and it didn't seem to read it correctly with JAWS. Any suggestions? MathPlayer is just a plug-in that allows for MathML content to be displayed in IE. The best analogy may be that MathPlayer is something like the Flash player - it only initializes when necessary based on page content. Alone MathPlayer will speak the expression using the voices available on the computer. If using a screen-reader (JAWS, Supernova, Window-Eyes), then all you need to do is have the screen-reader running when you get to the page - the screen-reader will just read the content as any other text content on the page. What browser were you using and what screen-reader version? Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johumber at iupui.edu Wed Oct 17 12:01:50 2007 From: johumber at iupui.edu (Humbert, Joseph A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Mathml and JAWS In-Reply-To: <001801c810ea$390eebd0$99821299@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <68376C7215E47C4BAE6271B0AA82C9FF053D5883@iu-mssg-mbx105.ads.iu.edu> <001801c810ea$390eebd0$99821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <68376C7215E47C4BAE6271B0AA82C9FF053D5A37@iu-mssg-mbx105.ads.iu.edu> Hi! IE 7 and JAWS 8 Joe Humbert Assistive Technology Specialist Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI) Office: IT 214E Email: johumber@iupui.edu Phone: 317-274-4378 Cell: 847-431-6545 AIM:ATCIUPUI From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:19 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Mathml and JAWS > Is any special coding needed for math ML to be read correctly by screen readers? Right now, for MathML based Web pages to be interpreted correctly by assistive technology you need to be using MathPlayer with Internet Explorer. The only special coding that I am aware of in this situation is the need to have additional declarations in the part of the your XHTML/HTML document. Here is the basic template of the code at: http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/author/creatingpages.htm#An atomyMathPlayerWebPage If creating MathML Web pages from MathType/MS Word, then you do have to be careful with respect to the export option. If you wish to view the Web page on your local computer (not via the Internet), then you need to export as MathPlayer (IE Behavior). This will result in a HTML document that only works with IE. If you are going to put this page on a webserver AND want the content available to IE, Firefox, etc. browsers, then you need to export as XHTML+MathML. This page will not be "readable" with IE on your local machine, but if you upload it to your webserver, it should work fine. > I also tried Mathplayer and it didn't seem to read it correctly with JAWS. Any suggestions? MathPlayer is just a plug-in that allows for MathML content to be displayed in IE. The best analogy may be that MathPlayer is something like the Flash player - it only initializes when necessary based on page content. Alone MathPlayer will speak the expression using the voices available on the computer. If using a screen-reader (JAWS, Supernova, Window-Eyes), then all you need to do is have the screen-reader running when you get to the page - the screen-reader will just read the content as any other text content on the page. What browser were you using and what screen-reader version? Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you need me to look up anything specific for you, please let me know. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of ron@ahead.org Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:46 AM To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Need stats Good afternoon, I have a request for hard data on the actual numbers of students being served in HE by DS offices, and the numbers being provided accommodations for curricular access. Please send this to me off line if you have anything to contribute and I will aggregate and share what I receive. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Make sure you have the latest version of the MathPlayer installed (which is 2.1b, I believe) as this is supposed to work better with IE 7. sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 20:29:19 2007 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: ClassMate Reader Portable reading system supports K-12 students Message-ID: <009101c81137$126b8950$37429bf0$@com> >From: HumanWare [mailto:ca.support@humanware.com] > >ClassMate Reader >PORTABLE READING SYSTEM SUPPORTS K-12 STUDENTS WITH LEARNING DIFFICULTIES > >Longueuil (Quebec, Canada), October 17th, 2007 - HumanWare is proud to >introduce a revolutionary device for students with reading difficulties for >grades K-12. The ClassMate Reader is a tool to help students in and out of >the classroom improve reading comprehension, increase reading speed and >develop strong vocabulary. This tool is indispensable for students who need >to refer back to previously recorded notes, tests or chapter summaries, as >well as for anytime, anywhere learning. > >The ClassMate Reader is a unique, portable and lightweight system about the >size of a portable gaming system with a large LCD screen. Students can >listen to the audio version of their textbooks and study materials, while >following the highlighted text on screen. This portable system is ideal for >students in any learning setting, including the classroom, resource room, >library, extended learning programs and at home. The system promotes >phonetic recognition and fluency and will significantly boost the support of >teachers who work with students who are dyslexic. > >The ClassMate Reader has several features only found on more expansive >PC-based software solutions such as text-to-speech, highlighting, >dictionary, text and vocal notes and audio book navigation. It can be part >of the teacher's strategy to build students' independence in the learning >process and enhance their confidence and self esteem. The system's design >was carefully crafted to engage students and dispel the notion that >assistive devices are unappealing. > >Scientific studies have demonstrated the advantages of a multi-modal based >reading approach (audio and visual) for dyslexic students. With the >simultaneous use of text and audio, students will improve their reading >comprehension which is conducive to improve academic achievement and higher >test scores. The ClassMate Reader can be used as an accommodation when >administering tests, eliminating the necessity for the teacher to read the >exam to students. > >The ClassMate's study features are built to assist in retrieving information >through the use of text notes, highlighting, bookmarks and voice notes. The >ClassMate Reader can play various electronic book formats starting with the >new NIMAS (National Instructional Material Accessible Standard) format, >including DAISY, Bookshare.org, Audible.com, text, wav, MP3 and audio files. >The player also provides integrated text-to-speech for reading books in text >format, such as those from Bookshare.org. It uses a removable SD flash >memory card or USB memory stick to store books and electronic texts. It can >easily transfer files from a PC with its standard USB connection. > >Brenda McBride, Product Manager for HumanWare said, "We developed the >ClassMate Reader from input of students with learning disabilities and their >supportive networks around the country. Taking their needs into account, we >better understood the features and tools they require to be successful >readers and lifelong learners. I am especially excited about our built-in >dictionary to help students instantly look up words with vocal output." > >The ClassMate offers all of the most advanced DAISY functions, as well as >navigation capabilities for any book or textbook. Students will appreciate >the ClassMate Reader for quickly and effectively consulting their school >books, making voice notes, study and practice and recording their teacher >during class. > >The ClassMate will be available for purchase online in the U.S. at >www.humanware.com or from Don Johnston Incorporated at www.donjohnston.com >(800-999-4660) in late autumn 2007 at an affordable price of $439. In early >2008, The ClassMate Reader will become available in other countries around >the world. > >About HumanWare > >HumanWare (www.humanware.com) is the global leader in assistive technologies >for the print disabled. HumanWare provides products to people who are blind >and have low vision and students with learning disabilities. HumanWare >offers a collection of innovative products including BrailleNote, the >leading productivity device for the blind in education, business and for >personal use; the Victor Reader product line, the world's leading digital >audiobook players, and SmartView Xtend, the first fully modular and >upgradeable CCTV-based video magnifier. > >About Don Johnston Incorporated > >Don Johnston Incorporated (www.donjohnston.com) empowers educators with >supplemental instruction and intervention solutions to help struggling >learners build core literacy skills with confidence. Since 1980, Don >Johnston has partnered with literacy authors, psychologists, teachers, >researchers, administrators, scientists and organizations to serve the needs >of struggling learners. Thousands of students have now become independent >readers, writers and thinkers with the use of Don Johnston's assistive >technologies and tools, implementation materials and a variety of multiple >instructional approaches, including audio and computer books to engage and >motivate struggling readers. From ckinney at gpc.edu Thu Oct 18 07:08:30 2007 From: ckinney at gpc.edu (Christopher Kinney) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Questions regarding post-secondary institution captioning programs Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at GMAIL.COM Thu Oct 18 07:18:06 2007 From: norm.coombs at GMAIL.COM (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Free Webinar: DIGITAL BOOKS & PLAYERS, AN UPDATE Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20071018071714.0222f250@pop.gmail.com> Free 2-part Webinar in November building on the Webinar on Etext Advances DIGITAL BOOKS & PLAYERS, AN UPDATE By Robert Lee Beach, Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College Two part free series. Thursday November 15 and 29 - 2PM EASTERN The advent of digital books has made accessing reading materials for individuals with disabilities a more pleasant experience. Sound quality is better and navigation is far superior to the old analog tape books. However, with so many options for players and sources of books, what does one need to be aware of when shopping for reading materials and equipment. In December of 2005, Robert presented a 2-part workshop titled "Why Pick a DAISY" which looked at some of the resources and players for DAISY books. Some changes have happened with both the players and sources. In this presentation, Robert will again discuss some of the sources of books and update you on what is happening with these. Then he will review software and hardware players for digital books and update you on the offerings available today. Included will be a demonstration of the new Victor Stream and a discussion of the new NLSbooks that are expected to come out in 2008. PART ONE will give a brief description of digital books, where they can be found, and what some of the differences are between books from these sources. Then there will be demonstrations of 3 out of 4 software players: Book Wizard Reader, Easy-Reader, and Victor ReaderSoft. Part 2 will finish the software player demonstrations with the gh Player. Then there will be demonstrations of 4 hardware players: Victor Classic, Victor Wave, Book Port, and the new Victor Stream. As time permits, other players can be discussed. ---------- ---------- -------- EASI Events for November Webinar 4-part Series Taming PowerPoint and Designing for Accessibility On and Off the Web Read more and register at easi.cc/clinic.htm Month-long Online Course Barrier-free E-learning Read more and register at http//easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs CEO EASI (www.easi.cc) (949) 855-4852 Pacific time zone) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have also answered your questions belewo Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Kinney Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:09 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Questions regarding post-secondary institution captioning programs I'm been charged to investigate the feasibility of setting up captioning services at Georgia Perimeter College. To be honest I'm not having much luck. I have contacted a number of schools and other sources and have received no answers as to how other schools are doing this. Basically the responses I have heard is that there is technology out there to caption materials. That's great, there are also components that I can use to build a rocket. However if you put all of those components in front of me, I wouldn't know what to do with them. So my questions are to anyone who works at a post-secondary institution that runs a media caption program for Deaf/HoH. My questions regarding setting up a captioning program are: . Who is the entity that produces the captioning? Media Services a component of campus IT . Organizationally under which university/college department's) is the entity located, funded, and managed? Campus IT, funded using earmarked funds and student technology fees . What are the most cost-effective hardware/software used? How much resources are needed and what are the operational costs? It depends on what you want to produce, we ended up subtitling almost everything and uses a variety of software and hardware in the process. The actual subtitling was done with Subtitle Workshop be we were also exploring Lemony when I left. . How much staff is employed? 1 Full Time program coordinator, 2.5 FTE student workers, Transcribers as temp labor which were cost shared with the campus Typewell program . What are the pre-requisite skill sets, and qualifications that are needed? The transcripts were created by the Typewell trained RTT. Most labor was student labor that was trained in house. . What are the policies and procedures that start from the request for captioned material, to production, to delivery of the final product? Those are outlined in the documentation. My last question. Does anyone have any information on other post-secondary institutions that have an in-house program? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Christopher Kinney Assistive Technology Coordinator Center for Disability Services Georgia Perimeter College 555 N. Indian Creek Drive Clarkston GA 30021 TEL: 678-891-3385 FAX: 404-298-3830 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Thu Oct 18 07:26:35 2007 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Free Webinar: DIGITAL BOOKS & PLAYERS, AN UPDATE Message-ID: <00e801c81192$f0622380$d1266a80$@org> I highly recommend this session. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: Disabled Student Services in Higher Education [mailto:DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs (by way of Prof Norm Coombs ) Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:18 AM To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Free Webinar: DIGITAL BOOKS & PLAYERS, AN UPDATE Free 2-part Webinar in November building on the Webinar on Etext Advances DIGITAL BOOKS & PLAYERS, AN UPDATE By Robert Lee Beach, Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College Two part free series. Thursday November 15 and 29 - 2PM EASTERN The advent of digital books has made accessing reading materials for individuals with disabilities a more pleasant experience. Sound quality is better and navigation is far superior to the old analog tape books. However, with so many options for players and sources of books, what does one need to be aware of when shopping for reading materials and equipment. In December of 2005, Robert presented a 2-part workshop titled "Why Pick a DAISY" which looked at some of the resources and players for DAISY books. Some changes have happened with both the players and sources. In this presentation, Robert will again discuss some of the sources of books and update you on what is happening with these. Then he will review software and hardware players for digital books and update you on the offerings available today. Included will be a demonstration of the new Victor Stream and a discussion of the new NLSbooks that are expected to come out in 2008. PART ONE will give a brief description of digital books, where they can be found, and what some of the differences are between books from these sources. Then there will be demonstrations of 3 out of 4 software players: Book Wizard Reader, Easy-Reader, and Victor ReaderSoft. Part 2 will finish the software player demonstrations with the gh Player. Then there will be demonstrations of 4 hardware players: Victor Classic, Victor Wave, Book Port, and the new Victor Stream. As time permits, other players can be discussed. ---------- ---------- -------- EASI Events for November Webinar 4-part Series Taming PowerPoint and Designing for Accessibility On and Off the Web Read more and register at easi.cc/clinic.htm Month-long Online Course Barrier-free E-learning Read more and register at http//easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs CEO EASI (www.easi.cc) (949) 855-4852 Pacific time zone) This list is intended to serve as a forum for higher education professionals involved in the delivery of services to students with disabilities in higher education. Any commercial posts or posts that are deemed by the listowner to be inappropriate for the list will result in the poster being removed from the list. To sign off the list, send a message to * listserv@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu * with the message * Unsubscribe dsshe-L To search the archives, go to http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/archives/dsshe-l.html Questions? Contact Listowner Dan Ryan at dryan@buffalo.edu From lisa_fiedor at ncsu.edu Thu Oct 18 07:29:03 2007 From: lisa_fiedor at ncsu.edu (Lisa Fiedor) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Questions regarding post-secondary institution captioning programs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47176DAF.1040603@ncsu.edu> Hi Christopher, all, I'm looking for this information also, as well as any information about Web Accessibility Retrofitting services that anyone provides. We are researching establishing a service here at NC State University, and I would appreciate any insight anyone can provide. Thanks, Lisa Christopher Kinney wrote: > I'm been charged to investigate the feasibility of setting up captioning > services at Georgia Perimeter College. To be honest I'm not having much > luck. I have contacted a number of schools and other sources and have > received no answers as to how other schools are doing this. Basically > the responses I have heard is that there is technology out there to > caption materials. That's great, there are also components that I can > use to build a rocket. However if you put all of those components in > front of me, I wouldn't know what to do with them. So my questions are > to anyone who works at a post-secondary institution that runs a media > caption program for Deaf/HoH. > > My questions regarding setting up a captioning program are: > > ? Who is the entity that produces the captioning? > > ? Organizationally under which university/college department's) is the > entity located, funded, and managed? > > ? What are the most cost-effective hardware/software used? How much > resources are needed and what are the operational costs? > > ? How much staff is employed? > > ? What are the pre-requisite skill sets, and qualifications that are > needed? > > ? What are the policies and procedures that start from the request for > captioned material, to production, to delivery of the final product? > > My last question. Does anyone have any information on other > post-secondary institutions that have an in-house program? Any > information would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > > Christopher Kinney > Assistive Technology Coordinator > Center for Disability Services > Georgia Perimeter College > 555 N. Indian Creek Drive > Clarkston GA 30021 > > TEL: 678-891-3385 > FAX: 404-298-3830 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -- -- -- -- Lisa Marie Fiedor Web Accessibility, Usability, & Design Specialist DELTA/Instructional Services/Faculty Support Services Campus Box 7111, NC State University, Raleigh NC 27695-7111 2133 DH Hill Library, East Wing v 919-513-4616 f 919-513-4003 lisa_fiedor@ncsu.edu From jean.wells at csueastbay.edu Thu Oct 18 08:03:41 2007 From: jean.wells at csueastbay.edu (Jean Wells) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Questions regarding post-secondary institution captioningprograms References: Message-ID: We have tried several options at CSU East Bay... doing captions inhouse, transcripts overseas, doing part of the process in house and we have finally decided that outsourcing the entire operation to Automatic Sync (automaticsync.com) is the best overall solution. The provide a complete serve at $211 a video hour. You send in the VHS and in 2 weeks they return a captioned DVD. We are just beginning to use their services and the jury is still out. The captions are really English subtitles but no one has complained about that. There is no way this process can be completed inhouse for less than what they are charging. They are a great company to work with. Hope this helps. Jean ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of Christopher Kinney Sent: Thu 10/18/2007 7:08 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Questions regarding post-secondary institution captioningprograms I'm been charged to investigate the feasibility of setting up captioning services at Georgia Perimeter College. To be honest I'm not having much luck. I have contacted a number of schools and other sources and have received no answers as to how other schools are doing this. Basically the responses I have heard is that there is technology out there to caption materials. That's great, there are also components that I can use to build a rocket. However if you put all of those components in front of me, I wouldn't know what to do with them. So my questions are to anyone who works at a post-secondary institution that runs a media caption program for Deaf/HoH. My questions regarding setting up a captioning program are: * Who is the entity that produces the captioning? * Organizationally under which university/college department's) is the entity located, funded, and managed? * What are the most cost-effective hardware/software used? How much resources are needed and what are the operational costs? * How much staff is employed? * What are the pre-requisite skill sets, and qualifications that are needed? * What are the policies and procedures that start from the request for captioned material, to production, to delivery of the final product? My last question. Does anyone have any information on other post-secondary institutions that have an in-house program? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Christopher Kinney Assistive Technology Coordinator Center for Disability Services Georgia Perimeter College 555 N. Indian Creek Drive Clarkston GA 30021 TEL: 678-891-3385 FAX: 404-298-3830 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Eric.Morin at asu.edu Thu Oct 18 08:25:44 2007 From: Eric.Morin at asu.edu (Eric Morin) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Questions regarding post-secondary institutioncaptioning programs In-Reply-To: <00e101c81192$a6093da0$f21bb8e0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <4AA5A0387D61C548AAEC2FE058D39E1C0157AA4F@exwest.asurite.ad.asu.edu> I am interested in this documentation. ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:25 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Questions regarding post-secondary institutioncaptioning programs Morning, I had a very extensive captioning program in operation when I was at OSU, and I am more than happy to share the comprehensive operational documentation if anyone likes. I cannot speak to how it operates now since OSU in its infinite wisdom destroyed the program shortly after I left. I have also answered your questions belewo Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Kinney Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:09 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Questions regarding post-secondary institution captioning programs I'm been charged to investigate the feasibility of setting up captioning services at Georgia Perimeter College. To be honest I'm not having much luck. I have contacted a number of schools and other sources and have received no answers as to how other schools are doing this. Basically the responses I have heard is that there is technology out there to caption materials. That's great, there are also components that I can use to build a rocket. However if you put all of those components in front of me, I wouldn't know what to do with them. So my questions are to anyone who works at a post-secondary institution that runs a media caption program for Deaf/HoH. My questions regarding setting up a captioning program are: * Who is the entity that produces the captioning? Media Services a component of campus IT * Organizationally under which university/college department's) is the entity located, funded, and managed? Campus IT, funded using earmarked funds and student technology fees * What are the most cost-effective hardware/software used? How much resources are needed and what are the operational costs? It depends on what you want to produce, we ended up subtitling almost everything and uses a variety of software and hardware in the process. The actual subtitling was done with Subtitle Workshop be we were also exploring Lemony when I left. * How much staff is employed? 1 Full Time program coordinator, 2.5 FTE student workers, Transcribers as temp labor which were cost shared with the campus Typewell program * What are the pre-requisite skill sets, and qualifications that are needed? The transcripts were created by the Typewell trained RTT. Most labor was student labor that was trained in house. * What are the policies and procedures that start from the request for captioned material, to production, to delivery of the final product? Those are outlined in the documentation. My last question. Does anyone have any information on other post-secondary institutions that have an in-house program? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Christopher Kinney Assistive Technology Coordinator Center for Disability Services Georgia Perimeter College 555 N. 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Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Eric Morin Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:26 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Questions regarding post-secondary institutioncaptioning programs I am interested in this documentation. _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:25 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Questions regarding post-secondary institutioncaptioning programs Morning, I had a very extensive captioning program in operation when I was at OSU, and I am more than happy to share the comprehensive operational documentation if anyone likes. I cannot speak to how it operates now since OSU in its infinite wisdom destroyed the program shortly after I left. I have also answered your questions belewo Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Kinney Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:09 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Questions regarding post-secondary institution captioning programs I'm been charged to investigate the feasibility of setting up captioning services at Georgia Perimeter College. To be honest I'm not having much luck. I have contacted a number of schools and other sources and have received no answers as to how other schools are doing this. Basically the responses I have heard is that there is technology out there to caption materials. That's great, there are also components that I can use to build a rocket. However if you put all of those components in front of me, I wouldn't know what to do with them. So my questions are to anyone who works at a post-secondary institution that runs a media caption program for Deaf/HoH. My questions regarding setting up a captioning program are: . Who is the entity that produces the captioning? Media Services a component of campus IT . Organizationally under which university/college department's) is the entity located, funded, and managed? Campus IT, funded using earmarked funds and student technology fees . What are the most cost-effective hardware/software used? How much resources are needed and what are the operational costs? It depends on what you want to produce, we ended up subtitling almost everything and uses a variety of software and hardware in the process. The actual subtitling was done with Subtitle Workshop be we were also exploring Lemony when I left. . How much staff is employed? 1 Full Time program coordinator, 2.5 FTE student workers, Transcribers as temp labor which were cost shared with the campus Typewell program . What are the pre-requisite skill sets, and qualifications that are needed? The transcripts were created by the Typewell trained RTT. Most labor was student labor that was trained in house. . What are the policies and procedures that start from the request for captioned material, to production, to delivery of the final product? Those are outlined in the documentation. My last question. Does anyone have any information on other post-secondary institutions that have an in-house program? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Christopher Kinney Assistive Technology Coordinator Center for Disability Services Georgia Perimeter College 555 N. Indian Creek Drive Clarkston GA 30021 TEL: 678-891-3385 FAX: 404-298-3830 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cathk at cahs.colostate.edu Thu Oct 18 12:58:37 2007 From: cathk at cahs.colostate.edu (Kilcommons,Cath) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] onscreen keyboard access at XP login? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63C56460EFB67341A173FCE2F79FF6DD09385DA98A@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> Hi Doug, You can open Utility Manager (Open window key + U) before logging on, and that can bring up the onscreen keyboard. The keyboard can be set to start when Utility Manager is started. Since Utility manager requires being able to activate the open window key and the letter U, sticky keys can be employed also before logon. If the key presses cannot be made simultaneously, use the keyboard shortcut to turn on sticky keys first (press shift 5x) Best, Cath ++++++ Cath Stager-Kilcommons ACCESS Project Colorado State University 970-491-0788 http://accessibility.colostate.edu/ cathk@cahs.colostate.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Doug Hayman Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:49 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] onscreen keyboard access at XP login? I had an inquiry yesterday about how to have the onscreen keyboard be active at the login [not after you've logged in]. I've tried putting osk.exe in the scheduled tasks with three different settings, "at login", "at startup", "when idle" and none work so that a user can use the onscreen keyboard to enter his/her password in the login promp for XP. Is there a way to do this? Doug Hayman Technology Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) Box 355670 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From gdietrich at htctu.net Fri Oct 19 12:29:01 2007 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Questions regarding post-secondary institution captioningprograms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007f01c81286$4e155e40$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> The answers below apply to the California community colleges. * Who is the entity that produces the captioning? It is generally disabled student services or the library, although a few of our campuses work through their A/V departments. * Organizationally under which university/college department's) is the entity located, funded, and managed? Our Chancellor's Office has been providing funding to disability services to handle captioning. That money is not sufficient for all captioning needs, so on most campuses, new materials are required to either be purchased captioned or be captioned prior to the first showing. Usually the cost of captioning those materials is absorbed by whichever department orders the materials. One creative exception is Mesa College. At Mesa, all video orders go through their AV librarian (contact me off-list if you would like her contact information). If something is already captioned, she purchases it out of the department's funds. If a different but similar video is available already captioned, she offers the department the following option: disability services will use their funds to purchase the alternative or the department can order the original video but then the department must pay to have the material captioned. * What are the most cost-effective hardware/software used? How much resources are needed and what are the operational costs? For in-house captioning, I really like the captioning package from CPC (http://www.cpcweb.com/). It is fairly easy to learn and their support materials are pretty good. The Mac system is a bit nicer than the PC system, but that's because the Mac is still a better multimedia platform than the PC. We do trainings for our colleges on how to use the equipment. You need a really fast computer with a huge hard-drive for captioning. You also need a large external drive for storage. If you are going to caption DVDs, you will also need a DVD authoring tool, like Encore or DVD StudioPro. The price tag for the necessary equipment (programs and computer and peripherals) weighs in right around $12,000. Not cheap, for sure, but when you consider that captioning for videos is anywhere from $6 to $20 per minute-and higher for DVD-you can see that out-sourcing is not cheap either. * How much staff is employed? Most of our campuses have one person who oversees the alternate media and a second person who actually does the captioning-usually as a part-time or contract position. * What are the pre-requisite skill sets, and qualifications that are needed? The most important qualification to do captioning is really, really good English skills. There are rules for formatting captions, like "do not separate a preposition from the word it modifies," which presuppose good facility with English. The best captionist I have trained was an English major. It also requires good attention to detail and some background with AV equipment. An English major who has dabbled in film editing would be a great fit. * What are the policies and procedures that start from the request for captioned material, to production, to delivery of the final product? In our system, we require permission from the copyright holder to caption. I encourage our campuses to go through their collection and request permission for all the holdings from a particular copyright holder at once. Most often permission is granted. On the occasions it's not, it's usually because the company intends to produce their own captioned versions. If the campus wants to go from VHS to DVD, that is a second permission issue and also must be requested. While the campus is obtaining permission, they can begin creating the transcript. The procedure I recommend is to capture the audio and create the transcript from that. It is best not to work from the video directly as going back and forth over the same section of tape can damage it. The fastest option is generally to have someone who is very proficient at Dragon NaturallySpeaking listen to the audio and "re-speak" or "parrot" what they hear, although if you have someone who can uses steno equipment, that also works well. (And, no, trying to use Dragon directly does not work well.) The means for capturing the audio varies a bit depending on how you are captioning. If you want more details on that step, please contact me off-list. Once you have the transcript, the next step is to format the captions and then time-sync them with the video. This step is the most difficult in the process and the one that takes the longest to learn to do well. One way to short-cut this step is to use a company called Automatic Sync (http://www.automaticsync.com/). With AST, you can upload the digital audio and the transcript, and their software will format the captions and do the time-coding. You just take the resulting file into your captioning software and make sure the very first caption matches up. Everything after that just falls into place. Once the file has been time-stamped, you are ready to burn the captioned copy. If you're going to tape, you simply play the video tape and record to it from the computer file. DVD is a bit more complex, but the process is quite similar. Once you have a captioned version, archive the transcript and the computer files. That way if the captioned version is ever lost or damaged, you can easily create a new one. Also, on the AMX database, campuses can share their transcripts and computer files (although not the finished videos). Since only one copy of the video can circulate, lock up the original and use the captioned version. My last question. Does anyone have any information on other post-secondary institutions that have an in-house program? Well, we do! :-) Hope this helps! ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Kinney Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:09 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Questions regarding post-secondary institution captioningprograms I'm been charged to investigate the feasibility of setting up captioning services at Georgia Perimeter College. To be honest I'm not having much luck. I have contacted a number of schools and other sources and have received no answers as to how other schools are doing this. Basically the responses I have heard is that there is technology out there to caption materials. That's great, there are also components that I can use to build a rocket. However if you put all of those components in front of me, I wouldn't know what to do with them. So my questions are to anyone who works at a post-secondary institution that runs a media caption program for Deaf/HoH. My questions regarding setting up a captioning program are: * Who is the entity that produces the captioning? * Organizationally under which university/college department's) is the entity located, funded, and managed? * What are the most cost-effective hardware/software used? How much resources are needed and what are the operational costs? * How much staff is employed? * What are the pre-requisite skill sets, and qualifications that are needed? * What are the policies and procedures that start from the request for captioned material, to production, to delivery of the final product? My last question. Does anyone have any information on other post-secondary institutions that have an in-house program? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Christopher Kinney Assistive Technology Coordinator Center for Disability Services Georgia Perimeter College 555 N. Indian Creek Drive Clarkston GA 30021 TEL: 678-891-3385 FAX: 404-298-3830 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: LO M 02-22 (captioning-copywrite).pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 61365 bytes Desc: not available URL: From skeegan at htctu.net Mon Oct 22 00:09:14 2007 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Jack Pickard Article: Accessibility: Making it All Worthwhile References: <1c8dbcaa0710210452s4a49235fo9bd7344b65d6b33b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0A89C2E1-CA60-4CB7-A9EE-AC717E3977C2@htctu.net> Hello all, Interesting article that struck a chord. While I think, for the most part, accessibility is no longer a "fringe" concern, integrating access into electronic and information technology is still an ongoing issue and is a worthy pursuit. Check out the link below: > http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200710/accessibility-making-it-worthwile Take care, Sean From skeegan at htctu.net Mon Oct 22 00:46:19 2007 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: Jack Pickard Article: Accessibility: Making it All Worthwhile References: <1c8dbcaa0710210452s4a49235fo9bd7344b65d6b33b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Oops - clumsy fingers. Here is the correct URL below. My apologies, Sean > The full article continues at: > http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200710/accessibility-making-it-all-worthwhile/ From rodriguezs at brevardcc.edu Mon Oct 22 06:38:55 2007 From: rodriguezs at brevardcc.edu (Rodriguez, Shari) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: Jack Pickard Article: Accessibility: Making it AllWorthwhile In-Reply-To: References: <1c8dbcaa0710210452s4a49235fo9bd7344b65d6b33b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3C2D9FDCACFBCB4183516E784E9DC7DE0CF448FB@cocoaex3.brevard.cc.fl.us> Here is a great website for making those long URLs much smaller. The site is called TinyUrls, http://tinyurl.com/create.php and it converted your URL to http://tinyurl.com/2gr4ma Shari Rodriguez Assistive Technology / Learning Specialist The Office for Students with Disabilities Brevard Community College Melbourne Campus Tel: 321.433.5599 Fax: 321.433.5679 rodriguezs@brevardcc.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:46 AM To: altmedia@htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu; webaccess@htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu; athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Fwd: Jack Pickard Article: Accessibility: Making it AllWorthwhile Oops - clumsy fingers. Here is the correct URL below. My apologies, Sean > The full article continues at: > http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200710/accessibility-making-it-al l-worthwhile/ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From hascherdss at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 12:07:48 2007 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Nomination of Officers In-Reply-To: <056a01c81045$31bd8170$95388450$@com> References: <056a01c81045$31bd8170$95388450$@com> Message-ID: <6e0d34c90710221207u3b435430sff838d6a27216fe3@mail.gmail.com> Hello ATHENians! I would like to formally cast my name in the hat for the position of Treasurer. Over the past 10 years, I have served on the Ark-AHEAD board. (Ark-AHEAD is the state of Arkansas affiliate to AHEAD.) During this time frame, I served as Treasurer for several years, Web master for several years, Vice Chair, and Chair for 2.5 years. Through serving in multiple positions, I have gained a solid understanding of organization structure and various position responsibilities. As Treasurer specifically, I gained experience in all areas regarding monetary considerations for the organization including collecting dues, revamping and maintaining a membership database, establishing and maintaining a checking account for the organization, payment of expenditures, processing funds received for conferences/workshops sponsored by the organization, as well as reporting to the board and membership on all treasury activities. In one of my former careers, I worked in the financial industry for over 11 years in a variety of positions which included financial counseling and planning. With the experiences that I gained through Ark-AHEAD, other business organizations, and my professional career, I believe that I have the necessary qualifications to serve ATHEN as Treasurer with honesty and integrity. Thank you for your consideration! Heidi Scher -- Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Interim Assistant Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 (479) 575-3104 (voice) (479) 575-7445 (fax) (479) 575-3646 (tdd) On 10/16/07, Pratik Patel wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > As you might have noted from the e-mail messages that have passed back and > forth over the last week, ATHEN is getting ready to conduct its annual > election of officers prior to (and in conjunction with) the Accessing Higher > Ground Conference. The absence of unanimous egging leads me to be the sole > volunteer overseeing this election process. > > I would ask that you please read this message in its entirety as it contains > instructions on the first phase of this endeavor. > > With this message, we open up the virtual floor for nominations for the > following officer positions in accordance with ATHEN's by-laws > (http://www.athenpro.org/node/23): > 1. President > 2. One or more vice presidents > 3. Secretary > 4. Treasurer > > For a list of officer duties, see article IV, Sections 5.5 through 5.8. > > All nominations must be submitted no later than 11:59 PM eastern on Sunday > October 28, 2007. > > If you are self nominating or nominating an individual for a position with > his/her knowledge, you may submit the nomination to the ATHEN discussion > list (Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > [athen@athenpro.org]). All individuals nominated for a position must accept > the nomination. If you are nominating an individual or individuals for > positions without his/her knowledge--and such a practice is highly > discouraged, please forward the nomination to me privately at > pratikp1@gmail.com. Please provide the nominee's full contact information > in order to verify acceptance. If you do not feel comfortable nominating > someone over the ATHEN discussion list, you may also forward the nomination > to be privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. > > Advanced apologies for the inconvenience; however, please note that > individuals who may have expressed interest in running for a position prior > to the beginning of the nomination process must officially declare his/her > willingness to run for a position through the nominations process as > outlined in this message. > > All candidates must submit a statement that states his/her qualifications > for the position being sought prior to the beginning of the voting process. > Online voting will begin a few days after nominations have been submitted > and will run through the morning of November 8, 2007 more information on the > voting process will be available in a separate message. > > Please do not hesitate to address any questions on the nominations process > to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. > > I look forward to the nominations process and the subsequent voting. > > Warm regards, > > Pratik > > Pratik Patel > Director, IT Access. Director, PeopleTech > The City University of New York > mailto: pratikp1@gmail.com > PeopleTech Project Site > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From johumber at iupui.edu Tue Oct 23 11:07:34 2007 From: johumber at iupui.edu (Humbert, Joseph A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] showing the world people with disabilities are no different Message-ID: <68376C7215E47C4BAE6271B0AA82C9FF055305E6@iu-mssg-mbx105.ads.iu.edu> Hi! http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/lifestylegermanydisabilityfashion Its good that there is press coverage for stuff like this. J thankx Joe Humbert Assistive Technology Specialist Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI) Office: IT 214E Email: johumber@iupui.edu Phone: 317-274-4378 Cell: 847-431-6545 AIM:ATCIUPUI -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhausler at cahs.colostate.edu Tue Oct 23 11:17:45 2007 From: jhausler at cahs.colostate.edu (Hausler,Jesse) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] showing the world people with disabilities are no different In-Reply-To: <68376C7215E47C4BAE6271B0AA82C9FF055305E6@iu-mssg-mbx105.ads.iu.edu> References: <68376C7215E47C4BAE6271B0AA82C9FF055305E6@iu-mssg-mbx105.ads.iu.edu> Message-ID: <3F3B6F21B523744BBA0EF420CCD8078F0E228B1DB4@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> They had me up until the word "confined"... Shame it was the first sentance. I'll give em an "A" for effort I suppose. Jesse Hausler Assistive Technology Resource Center Colorado State University 970-491-0625 ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Humbert, Joseph A Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:08 PM To: Londergan, M D; Stores, Mary A.; Gregg, Tomas A; Richwine, Brian L; Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] showing the world people with disabilities are no different Hi! http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/lifestylegermanydisabilityfashion Its good that there is press coverage for stuff like this. J thankx Joe Humbert Assistive Technology Specialist Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI) Office: IT 214E Email: johumber@iupui.edu Phone: 317-274-4378 Cell: 847-431-6545 AIM:ATCIUPUI -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djbrky at bu.edu Wed Oct 24 06:01:03 2007 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blogging from the Fire Zone Message-ID: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C711605C08548@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> I found this item of interest on slash/dot and though other may be interested as it transcends the techie listservs in to the area of "there but for the grace of G-d..." http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/20911 "Retired journalist and mobility expert Jim Forbes is among the quarter-million San Diego-area residents driven out of their homes by the horrific wildfires. Forbes has taken the opportunity to 'fire blog' from his shelter and discuss via e-mail with Network World how his personal technology and the shelter's wireless networks are holding up under the strain. 'The shelter set up a dedicated computer room with an 802.11 a,b, and g network which worked like a charm. Lots of people brought notebooks when they left their home, so there was a whole lot of IM traffic in and out of the shelter. The local cell networks were subsumed by traffic early in the day so people were texting friends and loved ones a lot." http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/20911 ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability From skeegan at htctu.net Wed Oct 24 19:10:27 2007 From: skeegan at htctu.net (skeegan@htctu.net) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: Job Announcement Message-ID: <20071024221027.txfia1q66occokc8@sheridan.swishmail.com> Received this on another list. For those who may be interested in accessibility and instructional technology... Sean ****** Job Announcement Top of Form #002510-INSTRUCTIONAL ADAPTIVE TECHNOLOGY COORDINATOR, Information Technology Consultant (Career Level), Media and Technology Services, Permanent, Full-Time (1.0 time base, 40 hrs/wk), $4,170.00-$8,536.00/mo . This position serves as a resource expert with regard to complying with ADA technology concerns in the teaching and pedagogical sphere as well as researching new technologies and working with other faculty support services engaged in supporting faculty in their professional activities. The position is housed in the IT Academic Technologies support unit and is expected to have a knowledge of instructional design, web-based delivery of instruction and multimedia production techniques, and website design. The incumbent will provide campus-wide consulting services for academic departments, programs and individual faculty and college IT support staff requiring assistance in developing and adapting instructional materials for accessibility and compliance with Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act and California State University (CSU) and CSU East Bay policy. In this role, the incumbent will develop adaptive technology related web based training tools and publications related to teaching and delivering instruction online and on grounds; research, evaluate, specify, demonstrate and train others in software and hardware solutions for producing, adapting, and delivering accessible and ADA compliant instructional materials in all formats; develop procedures and practices for the production and adaptation of these materials and events; personally produce and adapt materials where necessary; and coordinate and manage accessibility solutions for presentations, webinairs and other campus events involving technology delivered components. The IT@CSUEB management model is committed to opertional excellence, establishing and maintaining highly responsive, helpful, supportive relationships, and open-minded, receptive collaboration -- key ingredients for creating trust and multiple "wins" for the colleges, faculty, students, and staff. Within this framework, the Media and Academic Technology Services (MATS) department of the Division of Information Technology Services (ITS) is responsible for the support of academic technologies delivered throughout campus and through internet delivery strategies. Components of this organization are also engaged in the research of new and emerging technologies as they pertain to the instructional mission of the University. Part of these services include the researching and disseminating of adaptive technology (AT) instructional techniques and technologies as they relate to pedagogical and instructional content creation, delivery and learning activities. REQUIRES: Progressive, related experience of at least three or more years and graduation from a four-year college or university with a degree in computer science or a related field; or an equivalent combination of related experience and education. Must be able to work relatively independently and possess the experience to be fully proficient in performing the above work assignments. Must be able to independently apply technical judgment to standard and non-standard applications and systems, solve a wide range of problems and develop practical and thorough solutions. Must have excellent verbal and written communication skills. PREFERRED SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE: Experience and expert-level knowledge of accessible website design, distance education requirements, and academic on-line resources; substantial ability to interpret and apply policies and procedures; proven ability to work and communicate effectively, cooperatively, collaboratively, and respectfully with faculty, staff, and students in developing on-line resources. Hands-on experience and knowledge of Microsoft Windows OS and the MacOS, Microsoft Office, Microsoft Access, software distribution techniques, e-mail client software, calendaring software, Adobe Acrobat, Photoshop and internet protocols and file sharing. Experience in working with diverse individuals with disabilities. Knowledge of training practices and methodologies and instructional design. Experience in the delivery of instruction via web based methodologies and publication for the web. Web site design and maintenance desirable; excellent customer service practices; software licensing practices; web page design; adaptive technologies practices and knowledge of regulations concerning the accessibility of technology for persons with disabilities. Demonstrated proficiency and knowledge of IBM PC clone microcomputers and laptops and Apple Macintosh and PowerMac computers and laptops, TCP/IP protocol and services, Internet principles and architecture. Familiarity with ADA Sections 504 and 508 desirable. Application review will begin on November 1 and continue until the position is filled. Roger C. Parker Interim Director, Media and Academic Technology Services California State University, East Bay roger.parker@csueastbay.edu office: 510 885 3693 -------------- next part -------------- I'm forwarding this job opportunity on behalf of a colleague. Please forward to interested individuals. Thanks. /mary Job Announcement https://abaweb.csueastbay.edu/includes/images/divider.gif Top of Form #002510-INSTRUCTIONAL ADAPTIVE TECHNOLOGY COORDINATOR, Information Technology Consultant (Career Level), Media and Technology Services, Permanent, Full-Time (1.0 time base, 40 hrs/wk), $4,170.00-$8,536.00/mo . # This position serves as a resource expert with regard to complying with ADA technology concerns in the teaching and pedagogical sphere as well as researching new technologies and working with other faculty support services engaged in supporting faculty in their professional activities. The position is housed in the IT Academic Technologies support unit and is expected to have a knowledge of instructional design, web-based delivery of instruction and multimedia production techniques, and website design. The incumbent will provide campus-wide consulting services for academic departments, programs and individual faculty and college IT support staff requiring assistance in developing and adapting instructional materials for accessibility and compliance with Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act and California State University (CSU) and CSU East Bay policy. In this role, the incumbent will develop adaptive technology related web based training tools and publications related to teaching and delivering instruction online and on grounds; research, evaluate, specify, demonstrate and train others in software and hardware solutions for producing, adapting, and delivering accessible and ADA compliant instructional materials in all formats; develop procedures and practices for the production and adaptation of these materials and events; personally produce and adapt materials where necessary; and coordinate and manage accessibility solutions for presentations, webinairs and other campus events involving technology delivered components. The IT@CSUEB management model is committed to opertional excellence, establishing and maintaining highly responsive, helpful, supportive relationships, and open-minded, receptive collaboration -- key ingredients for creating trust and multiple "wins" for the colleges, faculty, students, and staff. Within this framework, the Media and Academic Technology Services (MATS) department of the Division of Information Technology Services (ITS) is responsible for the support of academic technologies delivered throughout campus and through internet delivery strategies. Components of this organization are also engaged in the research of new and emerging technologies as they pertain to the instructional mission of the University. Part of these services include the researching and disseminating of adaptive technology (AT) instructional techniques and technologies as they relate to pedagogical and instructional content creation, delivery and learning activities. REQUIRES: Progressive, related experience of at least three or more years and graduation from a four-year college or university with a degree in computer science or a related field; or an equivalent combination of related experience and education. Must be able to work relatively independently and possess the experience to be fully proficient in performing the above work assignments. Must be able to independently apply technical judgment to standard and non-standard applications and systems, solve a wide range of problems and develop practical and thorough solutions. Must have excellent verbal and written communication skills. PREFERRED SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE: Experience and expert-level knowledge of accessible website design, distance education requirements, and academic on-line resources; substantial ability to interpret and apply policies and procedures; proven ability to work and communicate effectively, cooperatively, collaboratively, and respectfully with faculty, staff, and students in developing on-line resources. Hands-on experience and knowledge of Microsoft Windows OS and the MacOS, Microsoft Office, Microsoft Access, software distribution techniques, e-mail client software, calendaring software, Adobe Acrobat, Photoshop and internet protocols and file sharing. Experience in working with diverse individuals with disabilities. Knowledge of training practices and methodologies and instructional design. Experience in the delivery of instruction via web based methodologies and publication for the web. Web site design and maintenance desirable; excellent customer service practices; software licensing practices; web page design; adaptive technologies practices and knowledge of regulations concerning the accessibility of technology for persons with disabilities. Demonstrated proficiency and knowledge of IBM PC clone microcomputers and laptops and Apple Macintosh and PowerMac computers and laptops, TCP/IP protocol and services, Internet principles and architecture. Familiarity with ADA Sections 504 and 508 desirable. Application review will begin on November 1 and continue until the position is filled. Roger C. Parker Interim Director, Media and Academic Technology Services California State University, East Bay roger.parker@csueastbay.edu office: 510 885 3693 mobile: 510 589 0066 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at ucla.edu Thu Oct 25 15:18:58 2007 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Job Posting: Web and Adaptive Tech at UCLA Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071025151616.02746988@ucla.edu> Hello everyone, This may not be the best week to recruit for jobs in Southern California, but my department is hiring. Details below. You can contact me with any questions. The shortest route to applying is to send cover letter and resume to: jobs@oit.ucla.edu . The official closing date is November 4. We look forward to working with you! Patrick ----- http://www.ats.ucla.edu/jobs/#webdcp PROGRAMMER/ANALYST II -- Web Developer / Adaptive Technology Consultant Requisition Number: 11282 This is a full-time career position. Pay Range: $3731-$6655 /month Under general supervision of the Manager of Web Architecture, provide technical evaluation, consulting, training and support on web and adaptive technologies to students, faculty, staff, and to campus departments. Evaluate and recommend new technologies. Evaluate, test and install specialized computer technology and integrate this specialized technology with web sites, computer workstations, and local area and campus-wide networks. Determine the web needs of departments and institutes. Plan, design, develop, program, maintain, and improve web sites. Ensure that those web sites adhere to W3C Web Accessibility Initiative Guidelines and are accessible by adaptive equipment and software. Follow web standards. Implement sites in XHTML with CSS layout. ... -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke ucla. edu From larry.kiser at sfcc.edu Fri Oct 26 11:49:57 2007 From: larry.kiser at sfcc.edu (Larry Kiser) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV Message-ID: <20071026144957741.00000002684@SF305507> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From RJiron at roguecc.edu Fri Oct 26 11:57:24 2007 From: RJiron at roguecc.edu (Jiron, Randi) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV In-Reply-To: <20071026144957741.00000002684@SF305507> Message-ID: <187E4E45E2F9AB4D8B17418C64855FFB06A3138D@mercury.admin.rcc> We use a portable unit called an LVI MagniLink that works in combination with Zoomtext and a laptop computer. A student can carry the unit to class and set it up right on the desk giving access to either the textbook, handouts or the board. Randi Jiron Disability Services Specialist Josephine County Office of Disability Services Rogue Community College 541/956-7337 Redwood Campus Website: http://learn.roguecc.edu/developmental/support ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:50 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV To the Athen Community: I am interested in how you all provide CCTV access in multiple classrooms throughout the day for an individual student with low vision. A student I currently work with has no vision in one eye and limited vision in the other. The student uses a magnifier at times but relies on a desktop CCTV in the classroom for textbook viewing. The student registered for two classes and we were able to arrange for them to meet in the same classroom. We anticipate in the future scheduling two or more classes for the same room may not be possible. Another issue is the type of CCTV the student wants to use. Initially a MyReader unit was placed on an adjustable table in the classroom. The student did not like the fact this unit did not have an X-Y table and we therefore replaced it with an Optelec ClearView unit that does have an X-Y table. So far the student had not complained about this setup. However, the student indicated a desire to have a closer view of boardwork. The Optelec ClearView is not easily transportable. Even the MyReader is relatively heavy for a portable. We may be able to have our AV department move units from classroom to classroom on a schedule but they typically roll units (TVs, computers, etc) into a classroom on a cart and plug them in. I would think that for optimal viewing of a CCTV it should be on the student's desk. Should we expect AV to lift units for a cart to a desk and visa versa several times a day? Is there a special desk cart that would provide sufficient work space beyond the CCTV? It would be ideal if the student could carry a unit into the classroom and set it up on an adjustable table. Do any of you have experience with any of the Clarity products that have near, intermediate and distance viewing? Any other suggestions would be welcomed. Larry Kiser, Counselor Disabilities Resource Center Santa Fe Community College Gainesville, FL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Fri Oct 26 13:15:06 2007 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV In-Reply-To: <20071026144957741.00000002684@SF305507> References: <20071026144957741.00000002684@SF305507> Message-ID: <006401c8180c$e701ace0$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Funny, it must be CCTV time. This just came up on DSSHE, as well. I will reprint below my comments there about the Ergo. You can roll it from place to place, and with the extra large wheels that you can buy it with, it rolls easily even over cobbled tiles and asphalt. Since the Ergo has its "stand" built-in, you do not have to worry about where to put the machine. It does not solve your board problem, however. We've used the Clarity for that but haven't liked it too much. Maybe someone else has a good solution for that one. ******************* I *love* the Ergo. I've looked at a lot of large CCTV's, and frankly, it's a pretty mature technology. The different brands are not terribly different from one another. And the Ergo is not particularly different in what it does. It is, however, terrifically different in how it does it. The Ergo CCTV is designed to be ergonomic, and it is adjustable. It is one of the great ironies of CCTVs that everyone focuses on the screen...but not on the reader's body position while viewing the screen. The Ergo does both. The ERGO can be positioned so that people do not have neck and back strain from using it. (Try it some time; most CCTVs put your neck in a very uncomfortable position.) Also, the tray on which the book/paper rests is very smooth. There are never complaints about the "sea sickness" that some CCTVs can give you. I have been told by a number of people that using the Ergo is the most comfortable reading experience they have ever had with a CCTV. Low vision participants at our trainings all rave about it, and in a number of cases, folks have gone back to their campuses and ordered one for their workstations. You can buy it with extra large wheels, which make it very easy to wheel from place to place as needed--even over cobblestone-type tiles. It can be a tad hard to find a U.S. distributor for the Ergo, as the manufacturer (Rehan) is in Ireland, but here is one: http://www.atkratter.com/mags/ergo/ergo.htm And, no, they do not pay me. It's just rare that I find a product of this type that I can so whole-heartedly recommend! ;-) ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:50 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV To the Athen Community: I am interested in how you all provide CCTV access in multiple classrooms throughout the day for an individual student with low vision. A student I currently work with has no vision in one eye and limited vision in the other. The student uses a magnifier at times but relies on a desktop CCTV in the classroom for textbook viewing. The student registered for two classes and we were able to arrange for them to meet in the same classroom. We anticipate in the future scheduling two or more classes for the same room may not be possible. Another issue is the type of CCTV the student wants to use. Initially a MyReader unit was placed on an adjustable table in the classroom. The student did not like the fact this unit did not have an X-Y table and we therefore replaced it with an Optelec ClearView unit that does have an X-Y table. So far the student had not complained about this setup. However, the student indicated a desire to have a closer view of boardwork. The Optelec ClearView is not easily transportable. Even the MyReader is relatively heavy for a portable. We may be able to have our AV department move units from classroom to classroom on a schedule but they typically roll units (TVs, computers, etc) into a classroom on a cart and plug them in. I would think that for optimal viewing of a CCTV it should be on the student's desk. Should we expect AV to lift units for a cart to a desk and visa versa several times a day? Is there a special desk cart that would provide sufficient work space beyond the CCTV? It would be ideal if the student could carry a unit into the classroom and set it up on an adjustable table. Do any of you have experience with any of the Clarity products that have near, intermediate and distance viewing? Any other suggestions would be welcomed. Larry Kiser, Counselor Disabilities Resource Center Santa Fe Community College Gainesville, FL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From goodman at eri-wi.org Fri Oct 26 13:42:37 2007 From: goodman at eri-wi.org (Phillip Goodman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV In-Reply-To: <20071026144957741.00000002684@SF305507> References: <20071026144957741.00000002684@SF305507> Message-ID: <001c01c81810$bf4eb950$6400a8c0@porch> I guess my first question is why is this student using a CCTV to view textbooks when they can be converted to digital and viewed on a laptop with screen magnification software? If the student needs to see board work I would highly recommend one of the Optron units www.optronusa.com They have several versions of the Optron model (I think all but one of them need to be plugged in) and another model called the i-Stick which can be plugged into a laptop. Hope this helps.. Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTR/L Assistive Technology Consultant/Systems Administrator Employment Resources, Inc. 4126 Lien Rd. Suite 104 Madison, WI 53575 phone 608-246-3444 ext. 234 fax 608-246-3445 _____ From: Larry Kiser [mailto:larry.kiser@sfcc.edu] Sent: October 26, 2007 1:50 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV To the Athen Community: I am interested in how you all provide CCTV access in multiple classrooms throughout the day for an individual student with low vision. A student I currently work with has no vision in one eye and limited vision in the other. The student uses a magnifier at times but relies on a desktop CCTV in the classroom for textbook viewing. The student registered for two classes and we were able to arrange for them to meet in the same classroom. We anticipate in the future scheduling two or more classes for the same room may not be possible. Another issue is the type of CCTV the student wants to use. Initially a MyReader unit was placed on an adjustable table in the classroom. The student did not like the fact this unit did not have an X-Y table and we therefore replaced it with an Optelec ClearView unit that does have an X-Y table. So far the student had not complained about this setup. However, the student indicated a desire to have a closer view of boardwork. The Optelec ClearView is not easily transportable. Even the MyReader is relatively heavy for a portable. We may be able to have our AV department move units from classroom to classroom on a schedule but they typically roll units (TVs, computers, etc) into a classroom on a cart and plug them in. I would think that for optimal viewing of a CCTV it should be on the student's desk. Should we expect AV to lift units for a cart to a desk and visa versa several times a day? Is there a special desk cart that would provide sufficient work space beyond the CCTV? It would be ideal if the student could carry a unit into the classroom and set it up on an adjustable table. 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URL: From djbrky at bu.edu Sat Oct 27 19:34:19 2007 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN Meeting Agenda AHG 2007 References: <019901c81812$7e7edb60$7b7c9220$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C7116031C70E4@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> Here is the agenda for the Annual Business meeting at Accessing Higher Ground in a week and a half. Please look it over and let me know ASAP if there are changes, additions, etc. ATHEN Meeting - November 8, 2007 Accessing Higher Ground, Boulder CO 1. Ron provides overview of ATHEN for attendees. a. Currently ATHEN has XX members b. Balance is $XXXX.00 2. Updates on Affiliations and Conferences a. Accessing Higher Ground (Howard) i. Present conference ii. Future conference(s) b. AHEAD (Ron) i. E-Text Solutions Group ii. Conference(s)/Presentations iii. Training(s) iv. Funding (?), Publications (?), Politics (?) c. TechShare (E.A.) i. Report and anecdotes (?) d. Educause (Terry and others attending) i. Conference report ii. Publications iii. Regional conferences(?) e. ATIA (Sean and Dan C.) i. Conference ii. ATHEN involvement 4. E-Journal (E.A. current guest editor) a. 3rd edition update (practices in the European community) b. 4th edition 5. Subgroups a. Web (Sean & Dan C.) b. Alt media (Ron & Gaier) c. Assistive technology (?) d. Learning technologies group (Saroj) 6. Website (Sean) 7. Survey (Terry) 8. iTunes project (Joe - proxy) 9. Wiki (Terry) 10. Elections (Pratik) a. President b. Vice-President East c. Vice-President West d. Secretary e. Treasurer f. Membership Coordinator (not an elected position) ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability From pratikp1 at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 04:17:42 2007 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Nomination of Officers Message-ID: <01ef01c81954$293510f0$7b9f32d0$@com> Hello all, Just a brief reminder that the deadline for nominations is today. Please see the forwarded announcement. Regards, Pratik -----Original Message----- From: Pratik Patel [mailto:pratikp1@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:38 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Nomination of Officers Importance: High Dear colleagues, As you might have noted from the e-mail messages that have passed back and forth over the last week, ATHEN is getting ready to conduct its annual election of officers prior to (and in conjunction with) the Accessing Higher Ground Conference. The absence of unanimous egging leads me to be the sole volunteer overseeing this election process. I would ask that you please read this message in its entirety as it contains instructions on the first phase of this endeavor. With this message, we open up the virtual floor for nominations for the following officer positions in accordance with ATHEN's by-laws (http://www.athenpro.org/node/23): 1. President 2. One or more vice presidents 3. Secretary 4. Treasurer For a list of officer duties, see article IV, Sections 5.5 through 5.8. All nominations must be submitted no later than 11:59 PM eastern on Sunday October 28, 2007. If you are self nominating or nominating an individual for a position with his/her knowledge, you may submit the nomination to the ATHEN discussion list (Access Technologists in Higher Education Network [athen@athenpro.org]). All individuals nominated for a position must accept the nomination. If you are nominating an individual or individuals for positions without his/her knowledge--and such a practice is highly discouraged, please forward the nomination to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. Please provide the nominee's full contact information in order to verify acceptance. If you do not feel comfortable nominating someone over the ATHEN discussion list, you may also forward the nomination to be privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. Advanced apologies for the inconvenience; however, please note that individuals who may have expressed interest in running for a position prior to the beginning of the nomination process must officially declare his/her willingness to run for a position through the nominations process as outlined in this message. All candidates must submit a statement that states his/her qualifications for the position being sought prior to the beginning of the voting process. Online voting will begin a few days after nominations have been submitted and will run through the morning of November 8, 2007 more information on the voting process will be available in a separate message. Please do not hesitate to address any questions on the nominations process to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. I look forward to the nominations process and the subsequent voting. Warm regards, Pratik Pratik Patel Director, IT Access. Director, PeopleTech The City University of New York mailto: pratikp1@gmail.com PeopleTech Project Site From djbrky at bu.edu Sun Oct 28 06:44:13 2007 From: djbrky at bu.edu (Berkowitz, Daniel J) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] : Statement of Nomination for Secretary References: <01ef01c81954$293510f0$7b9f32d0$@com> Message-ID: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C7116031C70E5@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> Hello ATHEN membership: My name is Dann Berkowitz and I am running for the position of Secretary of ATHEN. I have been a member of ATHEN since first encountering the organization at the 2005 AHEAD conference in Milwaukee, WI and since that time have served in a number of unofficial capacities for the organization in arranging meetings (both social and business) at CSUN, AHEAD, and Accessing Higher Ground. I developed and currently maintain the ATHEN blog [www.athenpro.blogspot.com], am a member of the editorial board for the ATHEN journal, and created promotional brochures for the organization (and convinced my employer to cover the cost as a donation to ATHEN!). At the 2007 CSUN conference I was tapped to become the Membership Coordinator of the organization and have successfully implemented a membership application process, created a database of members, and coordinated efforts with the current Treasurer. I have also presented at each of these conference as a member In my current job I am the Assistant Director of the Boston University Office of Disability Services where my responsibilities of running the day-to-day operations of a multifaceted student services office for the fourth largest independent university in the United States will serve me well in the capacity of Secretary for ATHEN. I believe that the backbone of any successful professional organization is to have people who can to the seemingly mundane but extremely important tasks of keeping records, tracking membership, advancing notices, and the like. This allows the standing committees and special project groups to go about their tasks without concern for the day-to-day operations. Should they have questions regarding the by-laws, member contact information, archived records, etc. it is the responsibility of the Secretary to have ready knowledge and access to this behind-the-scenes information. 5.7. The Secretary shall be responsible for the following: ?5.7.a. Keeping the minutes of the network and Executive Committee ?5.7.b. Notifying members of the affairs of the network, as determined by the Executive Committee. ?5.7.c. Coordinating the correspondence, keeping the records, preparing necessary reports, and keeping the logo and any electronic documents of the network. ?5.7.d. Keeping a roster showing the names and contact information of all members of the network. ?5.7.e. Turning over to the Treasurer as promptly as possible all funds collected, with a statement as to the individuals from whom collected and for what purpose. ?5.7.f. Publishing the list of officers of the network, the Executive Officers, the By-laws, the roster of members, and other items. ?5.7.g. Oversight/management of ATHEN web site. I look forward to seeing many of you in Colorado very soon! Cheers --- Dann ========================= Daniel Berkowitz - Assistant Director Boston University Office of Disability Services 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd floor Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-3658 (office) (617) 353-9646 (fax) djbrky@bu.edu (eMail) www.bu.edu/disability ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of Pratik Patel Sent: Sun 10/28/2007 7:17 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: Nomination of Officers Hello all, Just a brief reminder that the deadline for nominations is today. Please see the forwarded announcement. Regards, Pratik -----Original Message----- From: Pratik Patel [mailto:pratikp1@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:38 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Nomination of Officers Importance: High Dear colleagues, As you might have noted from the e-mail messages that have passed back and forth over the last week, ATHEN is getting ready to conduct its annual election of officers prior to (and in conjunction with) the Accessing Higher Ground Conference. The absence of unanimous egging leads me to be the sole volunteer overseeing this election process. I would ask that you please read this message in its entirety as it contains instructions on the first phase of this endeavor. With this message, we open up the virtual floor for nominations for the following officer positions in accordance with ATHEN's by-laws (http://www.athenpro.org/node/23): 1. President 2. One or more vice presidents 3. Secretary 4. Treasurer For a list of officer duties, see article IV, Sections 5.5 through 5.8. All nominations must be submitted no later than 11:59 PM eastern on Sunday October 28, 2007. If you are self nominating or nominating an individual for a position with his/her knowledge, you may submit the nomination to the ATHEN discussion list (Access Technologists in Higher Education Network [athen@athenpro.org]). All individuals nominated for a position must accept the nomination. If you are nominating an individual or individuals for positions without his/her knowledge--and such a practice is highly discouraged, please forward the nomination to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. Please provide the nominee's full contact information in order to verify acceptance. If you do not feel comfortable nominating someone over the ATHEN discussion list, you may also forward the nomination to be privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. Advanced apologies for the inconvenience; however, please note that individuals who may have expressed interest in running for a position prior to the beginning of the nomination process must officially declare his/her willingness to run for a position through the nominations process as outlined in this message. All candidates must submit a statement that states his/her qualifications for the position being sought prior to the beginning of the voting process. Online voting will begin a few days after nominations have been submitted and will run through the morning of November 8, 2007 more information on the voting process will be available in a separate message. Please do not hesitate to address any questions on the nominations process to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. I look forward to the nominations process and the subsequent voting. Warm regards, Pratik Pratik Patel Director, IT Access. Director, PeopleTech The City University of New York mailto: pratikp1@gmail.com PeopleTech Project Site _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Sun Oct 28 22:50:21 2007 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] need proctor help for Conference Message-ID: <008e01c819ef$98a46d50$881a0bc6@ad.colorado.edu> Hello All: The conference is quickly approaching. For those attending (& speaking), as usual, we could use help proctoring. Proctoring just requires handing out the evaluation forms, getting help for the speaker if some problem arises. You're not required to be technical. I've attached an updated schedule in both Word & PDF format. You can just send me a list of sessions you'd be willing to proctor or write your name in the cell in the Word document. You can also see the schedule on the Web at www.colorado.edu/ATconference. Look forward to seeing those of you who are attending in a little over a week. Cheers, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larry.kiser at sfcc.edu Mon Oct 29 05:32:23 2007 From: larry.kiser at sfcc.edu (Larry Kiser) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV In-Reply-To: <001c01c81810$bf4eb950$6400a8c0@porch> References: <20071026144957741.00000002684@SF305507> <001c01c81810$bf4eb950$6400a8c0@porch> Message-ID: <20071029083223972.00000003660@SF305507> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Mon Oct 29 05:51:12 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Nomination of Officers In-Reply-To: <01ef01c81954$293510f0$7b9f32d0$@com> References: <01ef01c81954$293510f0$7b9f32d0$@com> Message-ID: <008801c81a2a$654b9560$2fe2c020$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Pratik, Can you please provide the list of candidates you have thus far please. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:18 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: Nomination of Officers Importance: High Hello all, Just a brief reminder that the deadline for nominations is today. Please see the forwarded announcement. Regards, Pratik -----Original Message----- From: Pratik Patel [mailto:pratikp1@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:38 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Nomination of Officers Importance: High Dear colleagues, As you might have noted from the e-mail messages that have passed back and forth over the last week, ATHEN is getting ready to conduct its annual election of officers prior to (and in conjunction with) the Accessing Higher Ground Conference. The absence of unanimous egging leads me to be the sole volunteer overseeing this election process. I would ask that you please read this message in its entirety as it contains instructions on the first phase of this endeavor. With this message, we open up the virtual floor for nominations for the following officer positions in accordance with ATHEN's by-laws (http://www.athenpro.org/node/23): 1. President 2. One or more vice presidents 3. Secretary 4. Treasurer For a list of officer duties, see article IV, Sections 5.5 through 5.8. All nominations must be submitted no later than 11:59 PM eastern on Sunday October 28, 2007. If you are self nominating or nominating an individual for a position with his/her knowledge, you may submit the nomination to the ATHEN discussion list (Access Technologists in Higher Education Network [athen@athenpro.org]). All individuals nominated for a position must accept the nomination. If you are nominating an individual or individuals for positions without his/her knowledge--and such a practice is highly discouraged, please forward the nomination to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. Please provide the nominee's full contact information in order to verify acceptance. If you do not feel comfortable nominating someone over the ATHEN discussion list, you may also forward the nomination to be privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. Advanced apologies for the inconvenience; however, please note that individuals who may have expressed interest in running for a position prior to the beginning of the nomination process must officially declare his/her willingness to run for a position through the nominations process as outlined in this message. All candidates must submit a statement that states his/her qualifications for the position being sought prior to the beginning of the voting process. Online voting will begin a few days after nominations have been submitted and will run through the morning of November 8, 2007 more information on the voting process will be available in a separate message. Please do not hesitate to address any questions on the nominations process to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. I look forward to the nominations process and the subsequent voting. Warm regards, Pratik Pratik Patel Director, IT Access. Director, PeopleTech The City University of New York mailto: pratikp1@gmail.com PeopleTech Project Site _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From pratikp1 at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 06:15:04 2007 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Nomination of Officers In-Reply-To: <008801c81a2a$654b9560$2fe2c020$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> References: <01ef01c81954$293510f0$7b9f32d0$@com> <008801c81a2a$654b9560$2fe2c020$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <008a01c81a2d$b93cd000$2bb67000$@com> Hello all, Was just going to post this announcement. So far the candidates who have declared or have been nominated are: 1. President: Ron Stewart 2. Vice President: (none) 3. Secretary: Dan Berkowitz 4. Treasurer: Heidi Scher In light of the fact that we have no one nominated to run for the VP's position(s), I'm extending nominations until the end of the day tomorrow, October 30, 2007. Please see my earlier announcement regarding procedures. Regards, Pratik -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:51 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Nomination of Officers Pratik, Can you please provide the list of candidates you have thus far please. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:18 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: Nomination of Officers Importance: High Hello all, Just a brief reminder that the deadline for nominations is today. Please see the forwarded announcement. Regards, Pratik -----Original Message----- From: Pratik Patel [mailto:pratikp1@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:38 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Nomination of Officers Importance: High Dear colleagues, As you might have noted from the e-mail messages that have passed back and forth over the last week, ATHEN is getting ready to conduct its annual election of officers prior to (and in conjunction with) the Accessing Higher Ground Conference. The absence of unanimous egging leads me to be the sole volunteer overseeing this election process. I would ask that you please read this message in its entirety as it contains instructions on the first phase of this endeavor. With this message, we open up the virtual floor for nominations for the following officer positions in accordance with ATHEN's by-laws (http://www.athenpro.org/node/23): 1. President 2. One or more vice presidents 3. Secretary 4. Treasurer For a list of officer duties, see article IV, Sections 5.5 through 5.8. All nominations must be submitted no later than 11:59 PM eastern on Sunday October 28, 2007. If you are self nominating or nominating an individual for a position with his/her knowledge, you may submit the nomination to the ATHEN discussion list (Access Technologists in Higher Education Network [athen@athenpro.org]). All individuals nominated for a position must accept the nomination. If you are nominating an individual or individuals for positions without his/her knowledge--and such a practice is highly discouraged, please forward the nomination to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. Please provide the nominee's full contact information in order to verify acceptance. If you do not feel comfortable nominating someone over the ATHEN discussion list, you may also forward the nomination to be privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. Advanced apologies for the inconvenience; however, please note that individuals who may have expressed interest in running for a position prior to the beginning of the nomination process must officially declare his/her willingness to run for a position through the nominations process as outlined in this message. All candidates must submit a statement that states his/her qualifications for the position being sought prior to the beginning of the voting process. Online voting will begin a few days after nominations have been submitted and will run through the morning of November 8, 2007 more information on the voting process will be available in a separate message. Please do not hesitate to address any questions on the nominations process to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. I look forward to the nominations process and the subsequent voting. Warm regards, Pratik Pratik Patel Director, IT Access. Director, PeopleTech The City University of New York mailto: pratikp1@gmail.com PeopleTech Project Site _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From dmurphy at collegeofthedesert.edu Mon Oct 29 08:41:00 2007 From: dmurphy at collegeofthedesert.edu (Daryl Murphy) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV In-Reply-To: <20071026144957741.00000002684@SF305507> References: <20071026144957741.00000002684@SF305507> Message-ID: <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC747D46@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> We use a Clarity unit called the Classroom Travelmate. It has an X-Y Table and you rotate the camera to view the white board from across the room. We have a 20' TV attached to it, all placed on a adjustable roll about table. We have three of these setups so we can provide different locations for just the situation that you described. The web site is; http://www.clarityusa.com/ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:50 To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV To the Athen Community: I am interested in how you all provide CCTV access in multiple classrooms throughout the day for an individual student with low vision. A student I currently work with has no vision in one eye and limited vision in the other. The student uses a magnifier at times but relies on a desktop CCTV in the classroom for textbook viewing. The student registered for two classes and we were able to arrange for them to meet in the same classroom. We anticipate in the future scheduling two or more classes for the same room may not be possible. Another issue is the type of CCTV the student wants to use. Initially a MyReader unit was placed on an adjustable table in the classroom. The student did not like the fact this unit did not have an X-Y table and we therefore replaced it with an Optelec ClearView unit that does have an X-Y table. So far the student had not complained about this setup. However, the student indicated a desire to have a closer view of boardwork. The Optelec ClearView is not easily transportable. Even the MyReader is relatively heavy for a portable. We may be able to have our AV department move units from classroom to classroom on a schedule but they typically roll units (TVs, computers, etc) into a classroom on a cart and plug them in. I would think that for optimal viewing of a CCTV it should be on the student's desk. Should we expect AV to lift units for a cart to a desk and visa versa several times a day? Is there a special desk cart that would provide sufficient work space beyond the CCTV? It would be ideal if the student could carry a unit into the classroom and set it up on an adjustable table. Do any of you have experience with any of the Clarity products that have near, intermediate and distance viewing? Any other suggestions would be welcomed. Larry Kiser, Counselor Disabilities Resource Center Santa Fe Community College Gainesville, FL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ea at emptech.info Mon Oct 29 11:24:31 2007 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] need proctor help for Conference In-Reply-To: <008e01c819ef$98a46d50$881a0bc6@ad.colorado.edu> References: <008e01c819ef$98a46d50$881a0bc6@ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <002b01c81a58$f4232f90$0a01a8c0@laptop> These are the talks I have highlighted and I am only too happy to Proctor any of them but I am not sure when the meetings for the Athen Survey and the Athen evaluation group are taking place. Tuesday Flagstaff/Trailridge Lab: End the Angst: Universally Designed Word to accessible PDF, HTML, and simple PPT, Cath Stager-Kilcommons, ATRC, CSU Millennium Lab Lab: Automated Tactile Graphics, Dan Comden, U. Of Washington Wednesday Millennium Lab Lab: Advanced Applications of Basic Accessibility Principles, Jon Whiting & Jared Smith, WebAIM Millennium Lab Lab: Concepts & Techniques for Accessible, Closed Captioned Web based Video, David Klein, Ph.D. & Kenneth "Fritz" Thompson Thursday Millennium Lab Lab: Accessible Podcasting, Jayme Johnson , HTCTU (ends at 9:45) Millennium Lab (starts at 10:00) Lab: Using JAWS to test for web accessibility, Jon Whiting, WebAIM (1.5 hr session ends at 11:30) Millennium Lab Lab: Functional Accessibility Evaluation of Web 2.0 Applications, Jon Gunderson, UIUC Friday Millennium Lab Accessibility Consortiums: a New Approach to Resolve IT Accessibility Issues, Jon Gunderson, Hadi Bargi Rangin, UIUC 231 What is Web 2.0 (and how do we keep it accessible)?, Cath Stager-Kilcommons & Shaun Geisert, ATRC, CSU Best wishes E.A. ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 5:50 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] need proctor help for Conference Hello All: The conference is quickly approaching. For those attending (& speaking), as usual, we could use help proctoring. Proctoring just requires handing out the evaluation forms, getting help for the speaker if some problem arises. You?re not required to be technical. I?ve attached an updated schedule in both Word & PDF format. You can just send me a list of sessions you?d be willing to proctor or write your name in the cell in the Word document. You can also see the schedule on the Web at www.colorado.edu/ATconference. Look forward to seeing those of you who are attending in a little over a week. Cheers, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 27/10/2007 11:02 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 27/10/2007 11:02 From skeegan at htctu.net Mon Oct 29 11:39:19 2007 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [CATS] Mac Learning WebCast: Accessibility (part 2) Message-ID: <005c01c81a5b$05508bd0$99821299@htctu.fhda.edu> For those who may be interested, MacLearning will be hosting a webcast on Mac OS X Leopard accessibility this Wednesday at 10AM (PDT). That's 1PM for those of you in the East... See below for more information. Take care, Sean **** For those that might be interested: MacLearning will be hosting a webcast entitled Mac OS X Leopard Accessibility Update on Wednesday October 31st at 1:00PM EDT (10:00 AM PDT). This webcast features Mike Shebanek, Senior OS Product Marketing Manager, highlighting the latest accessibility features in Mac OS X Leopard, like the new Alex voice, Braille support, and new features in VoiceOver, that make the Mac user friendly for those with disabilities. Go to the following web page 5-10 minutes prior to the webcast start time: < http://webcast.training.apple.com/> The login ID for the MacLearning Webcast on October 31 2007 is "MacLearning" The login passcode for the MacLearning Webcast on October 31 2007 is "306381" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ATT00090.txt URL: From saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu Mon Oct 29 11:58:48 2007 From: saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu (Saroj Primlani) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] proctor help at AHG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000301c81a5d$bd3a62a0$c0c10798@sarojnewlaptop> Howard I can do Wednesday at 8, The Next Generation of Web Applications and Access for People with Disabilities, Jared Smith, WebAIM and at 10:30 From Principles to Practice: faculty implementation of UDL, Craig Spooner & Catherine Schelly, The ACCESS Project, CSU Saroj _________________________________ Saroj Primlani Coordinator of University IT Accessibility ITD 919 513 4087 http://ncsu.edu/it/access -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 2:45 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 21, Issue 51 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: FW: Nomination of Officers (Pratik Patel) 2. Re: Portable CCTV (Daryl Murphy) 3. Re: need proctor help for Conference (E.A. Draffan) 4. FW: [CATS] Mac Learning WebCast: Accessibility (part 2) (Sean Keegan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:15:04 -0400 From: "Pratik Patel" Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Nomination of Officers To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <008a01c81a2d$b93cd000$2bb67000$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello all, Was just going to post this announcement. So far the candidates who have declared or have been nominated are: 1. President: Ron Stewart 2. Vice President: (none) 3. Secretary: Dan Berkowitz 4. Treasurer: Heidi Scher In light of the fact that we have no one nominated to run for the VP's position(s), I'm extending nominations until the end of the day tomorrow, October 30, 2007. Please see my earlier announcement regarding procedures. Regards, Pratik -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:51 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Nomination of Officers Pratik, Can you please provide the list of candidates you have thus far please. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:18 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: Nomination of Officers Importance: High Hello all, Just a brief reminder that the deadline for nominations is today. Please see the forwarded announcement. Regards, Pratik -----Original Message----- From: Pratik Patel [mailto:pratikp1@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:38 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Nomination of Officers Importance: High Dear colleagues, As you might have noted from the e-mail messages that have passed back and forth over the last week, ATHEN is getting ready to conduct its annual election of officers prior to (and in conjunction with) the Accessing Higher Ground Conference. The absence of unanimous egging leads me to be the sole volunteer overseeing this election process. I would ask that you please read this message in its entirety as it contains instructions on the first phase of this endeavor. With this message, we open up the virtual floor for nominations for the following officer positions in accordance with ATHEN's by-laws (http://www.athenpro.org/node/23): 1. President 2. One or more vice presidents 3. Secretary 4. Treasurer For a list of officer duties, see article IV, Sections 5.5 through 5.8. All nominations must be submitted no later than 11:59 PM eastern on Sunday October 28, 2007. If you are self nominating or nominating an individual for a position with his/her knowledge, you may submit the nomination to the ATHEN discussion list (Access Technologists in Higher Education Network [athen@athenpro.org]). All individuals nominated for a position must accept the nomination. If you are nominating an individual or individuals for positions without his/her knowledge--and such a practice is highly discouraged, please forward the nomination to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. Please provide the nominee's full contact information in order to verify acceptance. If you do not feel comfortable nominating someone over the ATHEN discussion list, you may also forward the nomination to be privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. Advanced apologies for the inconvenience; however, please note that individuals who may have expressed interest in running for a position prior to the beginning of the nomination process must officially declare his/her willingness to run for a position through the nominations process as outlined in this message. All candidates must submit a statement that states his/her qualifications for the position being sought prior to the beginning of the voting process. Online voting will begin a few days after nominations have been submitted and will run through the morning of November 8, 2007 more information on the voting process will be available in a separate message. Please do not hesitate to address any questions on the nominations process to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. I look forward to the nominations process and the subsequent voting. Warm regards, Pratik Pratik Patel Director, IT Access. Director, PeopleTech The City University of New York mailto: pratikp1@gmail.com PeopleTech Project Site _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:41:00 -0700 From: "Daryl Murphy" Subject: Re: [Athen] Portable CCTV To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DC747D46@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We use a Clarity unit called the Classroom Travelmate. It has an X-Y Table and you rotate the camera to view the white board from across the room. We have a 20' TV attached to it, all placed on a adjustable roll about table. We have three of these setups so we can provide different locations for just the situation that you described. The web site is; http://www.clarityusa.com/ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:50 To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV To the Athen Community: I am interested in how you all provide CCTV access in multiple classrooms throughout the day for an individual student with low vision. A student I currently work with has no vision in one eye and limited vision in the other. The student uses a magnifier at times but relies on a desktop CCTV in the classroom for textbook viewing. The student registered for two classes and we were able to arrange for them to meet in the same classroom. We anticipate in the future scheduling two or more classes for the same room may not be possible. Another issue is the type of CCTV the student wants to use. Initially a MyReader unit was placed on an adjustable table in the classroom. The student did not like the fact this unit did not have an X-Y table and we therefore replaced it with an Optelec ClearView unit that does have an X-Y table. So far the student had not complained about this setup. However, the student indicated a desire to have a closer view of boardwork. The Optelec ClearView is not easily transportable. Even the MyReader is relatively heavy for a portable. We may be able to have our AV department move units from classroom to classroom on a schedule but they typically roll units (TVs, computers, etc) into a classroom on a cart and plug them in. I would think that for optimal viewing of a CCTV it should be on the student's desk. Should we expect AV to lift units for a cart to a desk and visa versa several times a day? Is there a special desk cart that would provide sufficient work space beyond the CCTV? It would be ideal if the student could carry a unit into the classroom and set it up on an adjustable table. Do any of you have experience with any of the Clarity products that have near, intermediate and distance viewing? Any other suggestions would be welcomed. Larry Kiser, Counselor Disabilities Resource Center Santa Fe Community College Gainesville, FL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20071029/2867f9 68/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:24:31 -0000 From: "E.A. Draffan" Subject: Re: [Athen] need proctor help for Conference To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <002b01c81a58$f4232f90$0a01a8c0@laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" These are the talks I have highlighted and I am only too happy to Proctor any of them but I am not sure when the meetings for the Athen Survey and the Athen evaluation group are taking place. Tuesday Flagstaff/Trailridge Lab: End the Angst: Universally Designed Word to accessible PDF, HTML, and simple PPT, Cath Stager-Kilcommons, ATRC, CSU Millennium Lab Lab: Automated Tactile Graphics, Dan Comden, U. Of Washington Wednesday Millennium Lab Lab: Advanced Applications of Basic Accessibility Principles, Jon Whiting & Jared Smith, WebAIM Millennium Lab Lab: Concepts & Techniques for Accessible, Closed Captioned Web based Video, David Klein, Ph.D. & Kenneth "Fritz" Thompson Thursday Millennium Lab Lab: Accessible Podcasting, Jayme Johnson , HTCTU (ends at 9:45) Millennium Lab (starts at 10:00) Lab: Using JAWS to test for web accessibility, Jon Whiting, WebAIM (1.5 hr session ends at 11:30) Millennium Lab Lab: Functional Accessibility Evaluation of Web 2.0 Applications, Jon Gunderson, UIUC Friday Millennium Lab Accessibility Consortiums: a New Approach to Resolve IT Accessibility Issues, Jon Gunderson, Hadi Bargi Rangin, UIUC 231 What is Web 2.0 (and how do we keep it accessible)?, Cath Stager-Kilcommons & Shaun Geisert, ATRC, CSU Best wishes E.A. ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 5:50 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] need proctor help for Conference Hello All: The conference is quickly approaching. For those attending (& speaking), as usual, we could use help proctoring. Proctoring just requires handing out the evaluation forms, getting help for the speaker if some problem arises. You?re not required to be technical. I?ve attached an updated schedule in both Word & PDF format. You can just send me a list of sessions you?d be willing to proctor or write your name in the cell in the Word document. You can also see the schedule on the Web at www.colorado.edu/ATconference. Look forward to seeing those of you who are attending in a little over a week. Cheers, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 27/10/2007 11:02 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 27/10/2007 11:02 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:39:19 -0700 From: "Sean Keegan" Subject: [Athen] FW: [CATS] Mac Learning WebCast: Accessibility (part 2) To: "HTC Staff Listserver" , "'Alternate Media'" , "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <005c01c81a5b$05508bd0$99821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" For those who may be interested, MacLearning will be hosting a webcast on Mac OS X Leopard accessibility this Wednesday at 10AM (PDT). That's 1PM for those of you in the East... See below for more information. Take care, Sean **** For those that might be interested: MacLearning will be hosting a webcast entitled Mac OS X Leopard Accessibility Update on Wednesday October 31st at 1:00PM EDT (10:00 AM PDT). This webcast features Mike Shebanek, Senior OS Product Marketing Manager, highlighting the latest accessibility features in Mac OS X Leopard, like the new Alex voice, Braille support, and new features in VoiceOver, that make the Mac user friendly for those with disabilities. Go to the following web page 5-10 minutes prior to the webcast start time: < http://webcast.training.apple.com/> The login ID for the MacLearning Webcast on October 31 2007 is "MacLearning" The login passcode for the MacLearning Webcast on October 31 2007 is "306381" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20071029/4fdab6 ff/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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The attachment were not attached. :-) Gerry Nies Gerry Nies Information Technology Tech University of North Dakota Disability Support Services McCannel Hall Room 190 2891 2nd Avenue North Stop 9040 Grand Forks, ND 58202-9040 (701)777-3827 (701)777-4170 FAX gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu STOP! This message is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are NOT the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the above mentioned e-mail or telephone number and delete this e-mail from your computer >>> Howard Kramer 10/29/2007 12:50 AM >>> Hello All: The conference is quickly approaching. For those attending (& speaking), as usual, we could use help proctoring. Proctoring just requires handing out the evaluation forms, getting help for the speaker if some problem arises. You?re not required to be technical. I?ve attached an updated schedule in both Word & PDF format. You can just send me a list of sessions you?d be willing to proctor or write your name in the cell in the Word document. You can also see the schedule on the Web at www.colorado.edu/ATconference. Look forward to seeing those of you who are attending in a little over a week. Cheers, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tft at u.washington.edu Mon Oct 29 14:48:32 2007 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Nomination of Officers In-Reply-To: <008a01c81a2d$b93cd000$2bb67000$@com> Message-ID: <200710292148.l9TLmR73003177@smtp.washington.edu> Hi Pratik, I'll toss my hat into the ring as Vice President. Thanks, Terry > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:15 AM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Nomination of Officers > > Hello all, > > Was just going to post this announcement. > > So far the candidates who have declared or have been nominated are: > > 1. President: Ron Stewart > 2. Vice President: (none) > 3. Secretary: Dan Berkowitz > 4. Treasurer: Heidi Scher > > In light of the fact that we have no one nominated to run for > the VP's position(s), I'm extending nominations until the end > of the day tomorrow, October 30, 2007. Please see my earlier > announcement regarding procedures. > > Regards, > > Pratik > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:51 AM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Nomination of Officers > > Pratik, > > Can you please provide the list of candidates you have thus > far please. > > Ron Stewart > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:18 AM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] FW: Nomination of Officers > Importance: High > > Hello all, > > Just a brief reminder that the deadline for nominations is > today. Please see the forwarded announcement. > > Regards, > > Pratik > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pratik Patel [mailto:pratikp1@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:38 PM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: Nomination of Officers > Importance: High > > Dear colleagues, > > As you might have noted from the e-mail messages that have > passed back and forth over the last week, ATHEN is getting > ready to conduct its annual election of officers prior to > (and in conjunction with) the Accessing Higher Ground > Conference. The absence of unanimous egging leads me to be > the sole volunteer overseeing this election process. > > I would ask that you please read this message in its entirety > as it contains instructions on the first phase of this endeavor. > > With this message, we open up the virtual floor for > nominations for the following officer positions in accordance > with ATHEN's by-laws > (http://www.athenpro.org/node/23): > 1. President > 2. One or more vice presidents > 3. Secretary > 4. Treasurer > > For a list of officer duties, see article IV, Sections 5.5 > through 5.8. > > All nominations must be submitted no later than 11:59 PM > eastern on Sunday October 28, 2007. > > If you are self nominating or nominating an individual for a > position with his/her knowledge, you may submit the > nomination to the ATHEN discussion list (Access Technologists > in Higher Education Network [athen@athenpro.org]). All > individuals nominated for a position must accept the > nomination. If you are nominating an individual or > individuals for positions without his/her knowledge--and such > a practice is highly discouraged, please forward the > nomination to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. Please > provide the nominee's full contact information in order to > verify acceptance. If you do not feel comfortable nominating > someone over the ATHEN discussion list, you may also forward > the nomination to be privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. > > Advanced apologies for the inconvenience; however, please > note that individuals who may have expressed interest in > running for a position prior to the beginning of the > nomination process must officially declare his/her > willingness to run for a position through the nominations > process as outlined in this message. > > All candidates must submit a statement that states his/her > qualifications for the position being sought prior to the > beginning of the voting process. > Online voting will begin a few days after nominations have > been submitted and will run through the morning of November > 8, 2007 more information on the voting process will be > available in a separate message. > > Please do not hesitate to address any questions on the > nominations process to me privately at pratikp1@gmail.com. > > I look forward to the nominations process and the subsequent voting. > > Warm regards, > > Pratik > > Pratik Patel > Director, IT Access. Director, PeopleTech The City University > of New York > mailto: pratikp1@gmail.com > PeopleTech Project Site > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From tft at u.washington.edu Mon Oct 29 16:01:37 2007 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] Statement of Nomination for Vice President In-Reply-To: <7D1ADD40E83FAB45B7939DF1860C7116031C70E5@XMS3.ad2.bu.edu> Message-ID: <200710292301.l9TN1WXB016807@smtp.washington.edu> Hello ATHEN membership: Struck by seeing this in Pratik's recent email listing candidates... > 2. Vice President: (none) ... I've decided to run for the position of Vice President of ATHEN. I was one of the founding members of ATHEN, and have been a leader in many of ATHEN's key initiatives, including the following: * ATHEN Survey. I led the committee that created the original survey in 2004, and published the results on-line, as well as in the EDUCAUSE Center for Applied Research (ECAR) Research Bulletin. This survey is the sole comprehensive source for objective data on how colleges and universities are addressing their technology access needs. I'm currently working with a new committee on an update to the survey. * ATHEN Wiki. After Sean Keegan installed the wiki software, I have been actively working to populate it with a core content structure that ultimately will be self-sustaining. The wiki is currently being utilized by several groups within and external to ATHEN. * Collaboration with EDUCAUSE. I have been involved in EDUCAUSE as a presenter and accessibility advocate since 2002, working to promote accessibility awareness in the higher education IT community. I brought this effort to ATHEN in 2006, and coordinated a teleconference involving several ATHEN officers and members and several EDUCAUSE executive staff members. Following that historic meeting, I was invited by EDUCAUSE to serve as leader of a formally recognized IT Accessibility Constituent Group, which now has over 200 members. I was also invited to present on "Critical Issues in IT Accessibility" at the annual CIO Meeting, which I did just last week to an audience of nearly 100 high-level IT administrators. This meeting last week, and the IT Accessibility Constitutent Group meeting that followed, are likely to be springboards for many additional accessibility-related activities within EDUCAUSE, possibly in partnership with ATHEN. * Collaboration with vendors. I have been active in a leadership role on the Blackboard Accessibility Interest Group, organized by Jon Gunderson et al at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. This is not officially an ATHEN group, though many if not most of its participants are ATHEN members, and the group is now utilizing the ATHEN wiki to document some of its efforts. A goal of the group is to work collaboratively with Blackboard toward their more fully addressing accessibility issues in their product development process starting early in the idea phase. The group has recently divided into four sub-groups, one of which is the Testing Subgroup, which I lead. I am also a participant in ATHEN's iTunes Accessibility SubGroup, and have worked to structure and populate the ATHEN Wiki to support the work of groups such as these. As access technology professionals, our efforts to increase technology accessibility at our institutions is highly dependent on vendors developing products that are accessible. I believe that ATHEN, possibly in partnership with EDUCAUSE, can play a key role in collaborating with vendors to achieve this goal. * Evaluation Subgroup (aka "AT Initiative"). This group may or may not have an official name, but it does have a well-defined goal, which is to develop a product (either a tool, checklist, method, set of guidelines, or simply a resource) that (a) helps vendors to integrate accessibility into the design process, and (b) helps purchasers/users evaluate accessibility of products under consideration. I have been an active participant in this group since it started, and am currently conducting a review of existing tools and methods, the results of which will be a living document, published on the ATHEN wiki. I have worked in the technology access field for 15 years across three organizations. I am currently at the University of Washington (UW), where I divide my time between providing IT accessibility support to UW faculty and staff, and doing the same nationally with the grant-funded DO-IT Program (http://www.washington.edu/doit). Terry Thompson Senior Computer Specialist DO-IT, Computing & Communications University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 From norm.coombs at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 13:39:00 2007 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] Window Eyes and PowerPoint Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20071030133658.02228e50@pop.gmail.com> Does anyone know whether or not the Windows Eyes screen reader is able to read the slides in a PowerPoint presentation. I ask about every year or so, and the last I had heard was that it still did not function in PowerPoint. I don't want to report that fact only to find out that it actually is not a fact any longer. Norm ---------- ---------- -------- EASI Events for November Webinar 4-part Series Taming PowerPoint and Designing for Accessibility On and Off the Web Read more and register at easi.cc/clinic.htm Month-long Online Course Barrier-free E-learning Read more and register at http//easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs CEO EASI (www.easi.cc) (949) 855-4852 Pacific time zone) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Crabb.15 at osu.edu Tue Oct 30 13:46:11 2007 From: Crabb.15 at osu.edu (Crabb, Nolan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] Window Eyes and PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20071030133658.02228e50@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20071030133658.02228e50@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200911DB087DA748846372E8038E0AE2BFD663@Amazon.admin.ohio-state.edu> Window-Eyes 6.1 will indeed read PowerPoint screens. Regards, Nolan Nolan Crabb Director of Assistive Technology The Ohio State University 2054 Drake Center, 1849 Cannon Dr., Columbus, OH 43210 Ph. (614) 735-8688 E-mail: crabb.15@osu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at kckcc.edu Tue Oct 30 13:48:40 2007 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] Window Eyes and PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20071030133658.02228e50@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20071030133658.02228e50@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47275258020000CF00004E19@mymail.kckcc.edu> Norm, I just asked a friend who uses Window-Eyes and JAWS both. He says with Window-Eyes 6.1, PowerPoint does very well. Now that's good news. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> Prof Norm Coombs 10/30/2007 3:39 PM >>> Does anyone know whether or not the Windows Eyes screen reader is able to read the slides in a PowerPoint presentation. I ask about every year or so, and the last I had heard was that it still did not function in PowerPoint. I don't want to report that fact only to find out that it actually is not a fact any longer. Norm ---------- ---------- -------- EASI Events for November Webinar 4-part Series Taming PowerPoint and Designing for Accessibility On and Off the Web Read more and register at easi.cc/clinic.htm Month-long Online Course Barrier-free E-learning Read more and register at http//easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs CEO EASI (www.easi.cc) (949) 855-4852 Pacific time zone) From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Tue Oct 30 18:23:17 2007 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: AHEAD 2008 Call for Proposals Message-ID: <00f901c81b5c$a334d930$e99e8b90$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> I also encourage you to submit your proposals. As the chair of the technology strand I want to put together a quality program. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: ahead@ahead.org [mailto:ahead@ahead.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:01 AM To: ron.stewart@dolphinusa.com Subject: AHEAD 2008 Call for Proposals Dear AHEAD members-- I wanted to get in touch to encourage you to submit a proposal for AHEAD 2008, "Multiple Intersections", in Reno, Nevada July 14-19, 2007. As you may have read, we've made some changes in the Call for Proposals that we hope will encourage provocative sessions that take an in-depth look at the multitude of 'intersections' between disability and higher education. Specifically, we've identified 10 topical strands that will provide the framework for conference sessions that share best practices, explore emerging trends, and challenge us to continue to question, learn and evolve as professionals. BUT to fully realize the potential of this promise, WE NEED YOU! Please consider sharing the innovative work you are doing on your campus with your colleagues through a concurrent or poster session at the AHEAD conference. The Call for Proposals and proposal submission form are available on-line at http://www.ahead.org/training/conference/cfp/ The submission deadline is Monday, Nov. 5. We look forward to receiving your proposal... if you would like to discuss ideas, don't hesitate to contact Richard Allegra at the AHEAD offices (mailto:richard@ahead.org) 704-947-7779 (v/t) or me directly. Carol Funckes AHEAD President 520-621-3274 mailto:carolf@u.arizona.edu ____________________________________________________ ron.stewart@dolphinusa.com**You are receiving this e-mail solely because you are a member of AHEAD, not because of your affiliation with any mailing list, listserv, or other organization. Please feel welcome to contact AHEAD at ahead@ahead.org if you have any questions about this e-mail transmission.** From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Tue Oct 30 20:12:54 2007 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] captioning of DVDs Message-ID: <016201c81b6b$ee34afa0$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> I've been working with a professor who's showing a lot of video this semester. Just wondering, is captioning of dvds voluntary? It seems a lot of the newer dvds are still not captioned. Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:16:37 -0600, Howard Kramer wrote: > > > Hello All: > ? > Here?s an interesting case that came up. A graduate student who recently started in a Humanities program on campus states that he cannot use a computer keyboard ? though he can hand write. Even a short time a computer keyboard will exacerbate his RMI (carpal tunnel syndrome). He requested someone to type for him (he needs to answer e-mails as part of his graduate program, for example) for a number of hours per week. We did not provide this accommodation. Has anyone else had a similar experience? Any opinions on whether this should be a legally required accommodation? > ? > Thanks, > Howard > ? > Howard Kramer > Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator > AT Conference Coordinator > Disability Services > CU-Boulder, 107 UCB > Boulder, Co? 80309 > 303-492-8672 > ? > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From danc at u.washington.edu Tue Oct 30 22:51:35 2007 From: danc at u.washington.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] question of accommodating student with RMI In-Reply-To: <016d01c81b6c$72f4e890$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> References: <016d01c81b6c$72f4e890$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: Certainly speech input as Mr. Bailey indicated is a good starting point. The technology is vastly improved, esp considered solely from the perspective of creating text. The learning curve will be worth it for this student. Purchasing a powerful tablet PC that can support speech rec. along with the stylus features, would be much cheaper than hours of pay for a human keyboarder and should make keyboarding pretty much passe for someone who is motivated to work independently. So to answer your question, no I don't think it should be a legally required accommodation. Existing technology can solve this student's issues, even if the university purchases the necessary equipment. And if he's also an employee in terms of being a TA or RA it may be required as an employment accommodation anyhow. Of course I'm not a lawyer blah blah blah -*- Dan On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Howard Kramer wrote: > Here's an interesting case that came up. A graduate student who recently > started in a Humanities program on campus states that he cannot use a > computer keyboard - though he can hand write. Even a short time a computer > keyboard will exacerbate his RMI (carpal tunnel syndrome). He requested > someone to type for him (he needs to answer e-mails as part of his graduate From pratikp1 at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 01:31:46 2007 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] Window Eyes and PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <47275258020000CF00004E19@mymail.kckcc.edu> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20071030133658.02228e50@pop.gmail.com> <47275258020000CF00004E19@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <032901c81b98$7aaee3c0$700cab40$@com> I'm happy to report that Window-Eyes 6.1 works better than JAWS with Powerpoint 2003 and 2007. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:49 PM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] Window Eyes and PowerPoint Norm, I just asked a friend who uses Window-Eyes and JAWS both. He says with Window-Eyes 6.1, PowerPoint does very well. Now that's good news. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> Prof Norm Coombs 10/30/2007 3:39 PM >>> Does anyone know whether or not the Windows Eyes screen reader is able to read the slides in a PowerPoint presentation. I ask about every year or so, and the last I had heard was that it still did not function in PowerPoint. I don't want to report that fact only to find out that it actually is not a fact any longer. Norm ---------- ---------- -------- EASI Events for November Webinar 4-part Series Taming PowerPoint and Designing for Accessibility On and Off the Web Read more and register at easi.cc/clinic.htm Month-long Online Course Barrier-free E-learning Read more and register at http//easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs CEO EASI (www.easi.cc) (949) 855-4852 Pacific time zone) _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From pratikp1 at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 02:36:28 2007 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] final list of officer candidates Message-ID: <032f01c81ba1$841a7470$8c4f5d50$@com> Dear Colleagues, The official deadline for the nomination of officers has now closed and here is the list of candidates by position. 1. President: Ron Stewart 2. Vice President: Terry Tompson 3. Secretary: Dan Berkowitz 4. Treasurer: (listed alphabetically) A. Eileen Berger B. Heidi Scher I will contact athen members with online voting instructions soon. Only one position needs member votes. As indicated in the last message, voting will continue until the morning of Thursday November 8. Regards, Pratik Pratik Patel Director, IT Access. Director, PeopleTech The City University of New York mailto: pratikp1@gmail.com PeopleTech Project Site From Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu Wed Oct 31 07:34:04 2007 From: Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu (Baker, Nick) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] question of accommodating student with RMI In-Reply-To: <016d01c81b6c$72f4e890$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> References: <016d01c81b6c$72f4e890$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <42816E1795C8EB44B1676468392D07945697E3@MUMMAILVS1.gs.umt.edu> Unless his speech is not clear, he sounds like a good candidate for Dragon Naturally Speaking. Nick Baker Assistive Technology Coordinator nick.baker@umontana.edu 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) 406-243-2663 (Voice only) Disability Services for Students The University of Montana EL 154 32 Campus Drive Missoula, MT 59812 ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:17 PM To: consortium@lists.colorado.edu Cc: consortium-at@lists.colorado.edu; 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] question of accommodating student with RMI Hello All: Here's an interesting case that came up. A graduate student who recently started in a Humanities program on campus states that he cannot use a computer keyboard - though he can hand write. Even a short time a computer keyboard will exacerbate his RMI (carpal tunnel syndrome). He requested someone to type for him (he needs to answer e-mails as part of his graduate program, for example) for a number of hours per week. We did not provide this accommodation. Has anyone else had a similar experience? Any opinions on whether this should be a legally required accommodation? Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 07:58:21 2007 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] Window Eyes and PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <032901c81b98$7aaee3c0$700cab40$@com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20071030133658.02228e50@pop.gmail.com> <47275258020000CF00004E19@mymail.kckcc.edu> <032901c81b98$7aaee3c0$700cab40$@com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20071031075809.021e2d30@pop.gmail.com> Thank you. That is good news. Norm At 01:31 AM 10/31/2007, you wrote: >I'm happy to report that Window-Eyes 6.1 works better than JAWS with >Powerpoint 2003 and 2007. > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Robert Beach >Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:49 PM >To: athen-athenpro.org >Subject: Re: [Athen] Window Eyes and PowerPoint > >Norm, > >I just asked a friend who uses Window-Eyes and JAWS both. He says with >Window-Eyes 6.1, PowerPoint does very well. Now that's good news. > > > >Robert Lee Beach >Assistive Technology Specialist >Kansas City Kansas Community College >7250 State Avenue >Kansas City, KS 66112 >Phone: (913) 288-7671 >Fax: (913) 288-7678 >E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu > > >>> Prof Norm Coombs 10/30/2007 3:39 PM >>> >Does anyone know whether or not the Windows Eyes screen reader is able to >read the slides in a PowerPoint presentation. I ask about every year or >so, and the last I had heard was that it still did not function in >PowerPoint. > >I don't want to report that fact only to find out that it actually is not a >fact any longer. >Norm > > > >---------- ---------- -------- >EASI Events for November >Webinar 4-part Series Taming PowerPoint and Designing for Accessibility On >and Off the Web >Read more and register at easi.cc/clinic.htm >Month-long Online Course Barrier-free E-learning >Read more and register at http//easi.cc/workshop.htm > >Norman Coombs >CEO EASI (www.easi.cc) >(949) 855-4852 Pacific time zone) > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ---------- ---------- -------- EASI Events for November Webinar 4-part Series Taming PowerPoint and Designing for Accessibility On and Off the Web Read more and register at easi.cc/clinic.htm Month-long Online Course Barrier-free E-learning Read more and register at http//easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs CEO EASI (www.easi.cc) (949) 855-4852 Pacific time zone) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Reniece.Jones at ccaurora.edu Wed Oct 31 07:33:29 2007 From: Reniece.Jones at ccaurora.edu (Jones, Reniece) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] question of accommodating student with RMI In-Reply-To: <016d01c81b6c$72f4e890$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <41D45ADB4A601A4282BDB4577BA3D63C03BF4B68@sloth.cca.ccofc.edu> Dragon is pretty quick to learn and you can still use keystrokes if you don't remember all the commands. Is he open to learning? You might encourage "buy in" by educating that this could be an accommodation he could also use in the workplace to give him that competitive edge.... Reniece A. Jones, MA, CI/CT Community College of Aurora Accessibility Services Office Director 16000 E. CentreTech Parkway, Ste. S-202E Aurora, CO 80011-9036 303.361.7395 V/TDD/VP 303.340.7551 F Reniece.Jones@CCAurora.edu www.CCAurora.edu ________________________________ From: owner-consortium@lists.colorado.edu [mailto:owner-consortium@lists.colorado.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:17 PM To: consortium@lists.colorado.edu Cc: consortium-at@lists.colorado.edu; 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: question of accommodating student with RMI Hello All: Here's an interesting case that came up. A graduate student who recently started in a Humanities program on campus states that he cannot use a computer keyboard - though he can hand write. Even a short time a computer keyboard will exacerbate his RMI (carpal tunnel syndrome). He requested someone to type for him (he needs to answer e-mails as part of his graduate program, for example) for a number of hours per week. We did not provide this accommodation. Has anyone else had a similar experience? 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Duties and Responsibilities: * Customizes or recodes software and web interfaces to improve functional accessibility; * Works with CITES developers from the initial planning stages of new applications to incorporate accessibility and user-centered design; * Educates developers and service managers about accessible design and best practices; * Contributes to annual Illinois Board of Higher Education (IBHE) report on web accessibility regarding improvements in CITES services; * Works with Documentation Group manager to develop metrics of success for projects; * Stays abreast of new accessibility technologies and standards; * Shares knowledge with colleagues in CITES, DRES, and the library. More information at: http://www.cites.uiuc.edu/jobs/20071008-doc.html Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology (DRES) WWW: http://www.cita.uiuc.edu/ WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/ From skeegan at htctu.net Wed Oct 31 13:55:06 2007 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:28:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] The 3rd Annual California Web Accessibility Conference (CalWAC) Message-ID: <004e01c81c00$523e2000$99821299@htctu.fhda.edu> (sorry in advance for the cross-posts) That's right - it's back again: The 3rd Annual California Web Accessibility Conference (CalWAC) is coming soon to California State University at Long Beach. Mark your calendars and plan to join us for the most comprehensive series of web and IT accessibility classes ever offered. WHAT: CalWAC: World renowned experts will share accessibility knowledge and skills. Continental breakfast, lunch and afternoon snacks are served each day. All registrants are invited to an early evening reception on January 14th. WHEN: January 14th and 15th, 2008 (an optional advanced session on accessible AJAX and friends is separately offered on January 16th.) WHERE: California State University at Long Beach COST: *Before 12/28/2007* CalWAC: One day: $255 / Both days: $425 Post conference AJAX session: $295 Package with both CalWAC days and post conference session: $580 *After 12/28/2007* CalWAC: One day: $325 / Both days: $495 Post conference AJAX session: $295 Package with both CalWAC days and post conference session: $650 More information and registration online soon at www.knowbility.org/calwac or contact Teenya Franklin (512) 305-0310 or teenya@knowbility.org Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Web Accessibility Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges