From saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu Tue Apr 1 08:13:10 2008 From: saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu (Saroj Primlani) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blackboard patent update Message-ID: <002701c8940a$e647fb40$3fc00798@sarojnewlaptop> I want to share something that was sent the NC State's TLTR list by a faculty member . Blackboard's e-learning patent looks to be going down. The United States Patent and Trademark Office this week sent out a "non-final" determination on the reexamination of Blackboard's patent in which all of the claims on the patent were rejected. Blackboard still has a period of two months to respond to the determination. http://www.campustechnology.com/articles/60271 Saroj -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Tue Apr 1 08:16:38 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blackboard patent update References: <002701c8940a$e647fb40$3fc00798@sarojnewlaptop> Message-ID: As much as I hate Blackboard, I don't think this is going to be the last of the patent. The first rejection of a patent is usually because certain questions weren't answered and there are holes in their explanations and research. A lot of patents are rejected on first submission. Blackboard will certainly file their updates on time and the patent may still be issued. These things often take years to resolve. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL Technology and Educational Support Services/ Campus Technology Support Services St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed Apr 2 12:30:03 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software References: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> Message-ID: We use their Text-to-Audio almost exclusively for producing mp3's of text. We also have the talking word processor deployed widely on our campus and students like it very much. Its word predictor is really good. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL Technology and Educational Support Services/ Campus Technology Support Services St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jongund at uiuc.edu Wed Apr 2 14:07:34 2008 From: jongund at uiuc.edu (Jon Gunderson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] Call for Proposals: Mellon Award for Technology Collaboration Awards 2008 Message-ID: <20080402160734.BED27921@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu> The Mellon Foundation is supporting open source software projects, receive either $50K or $100K for your open source project. More details at their website. They have supported a number of disability related projects, including the Firefox Accessibility Extension. http://matc.mellon.org/ Applications due April 14th, 2008. Jon Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility Disability Resources and Educational Services Rehabilitation Education Center Room 86 1207 S. Oak Street Champaign, Illinois 61821 Voice: (217) 244-5870 WWW: http://www.cita.uiuc.edu/ WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/ From jfoliot at stanford.edu Wed Apr 2 14:39:39 2008 From: jfoliot at stanford.edu (John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project Message-ID: <004601c8950a$0e755040$f03142ab@stanford.edu> As many of you know, John Slatin passed away last week, and in celebration of how his life has touched so many of us in the accessibility arena a project is being launched that will both honor his memory and assist his family with significant expenses that remain from his long illness. There is a new project designed to help. The basic idea is this. 1) We get accessibility experts to volunteer a few hours of time to perform a brief accessibility review of a company or organization web site. 2) We get companies to sign up. They will contribute a minimum of US$500 to "The John Slatin Fund". 3) The expert and the company are paired and the review takes place, spreading the word on accessibility. This review will not be comprehensive but serve to provide an organization with enough information so that they can understand what the strengths and weaknesses of their site are and what course of action is recommended. Some site owners may need a more rigorous audit in order to completely understand all accessibility issues, but such an audit is out of the scope of a review that takes 3-4 hours. This is intended as an introduction to accessibility for the site owner who is interested in learning about this important topic. Accessibility experts will need to conduct a short review, using combinations of tests to provide a document with an overview of accessibility to the site for users with various disabilities. What we need is for people who are willing to donate a few hours of their time to sign up as reviewers, which you can do at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin/volunteer.php. In addition, we ask that everyone help spread the word about this project to help us get companies interested in an accessibility review to sign up and to donate to The John Slatin Fund. If you have a blog, please blog this project. A short description: --- The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project matches accessibility experts with companies that would like a brief review of their site for accessibility. In return, the site owner is asked to contribute a minimum of $500 to The John Slatin Fund. The John Slatin Fund was established to help John's beloved Anna offset the medical expenses incurred during John's long illness. The goal of this project is to raise $25,000 for that purpose. Learn about the project and sign up at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin --- This is a project developed and managed by friends of John. All proceeds go directly to John's family. Please join us in honoring John and helping his family. From gdietrich at htctu.net Wed Apr 2 14:43:36 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] Job Announcement In-Reply-To: <004601c8950a$0e755040$f03142ab@stanford.edu> References: <004601c8950a$0e755040$f03142ab@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <007701c8950a$9bbf3470$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> ALTERNATE MEDIA-HIGH TECH CENTER ACCESS SPECIALIST DSPS DEPARTMENT FULL TIME CONTRACT, TENURE TRACK (10 MONTHS) The Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District is accepting letters of application for this academic position located at Cuyamaca College. While the current vacancy exists at Cuyamaca College, applicants should understand that they are subject to assignment to any District facility. MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS: APPLICANTS MUST MEET ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA: ??Master?s in the category of disability, special education, education, psychology, educational psychology, or rehabilitation counseling; AND fifteen semester units of upper division or graduate study in the area of disability, to include but not be limited to: learning disabilities, developmental disabilities, deaf and hearing impaired; physical disabilities; or adapted computer technology; OR ??A current California Community College Credential that permits full time service as an Alternate Media-High Tech Center Access Specialist; OR ??The equivalent. If you are applying based on ?the equivalent?, you will need to complete an Equivalency Determination Form, located at http://www.gcccd.edu/hr/Misc.PDF/EQUIVFRM.Full.Time.pdf. This form must be submitted as part of the application procedures. NECESSARY QUALIFICATIONS: 1. Demonstrated experience and ability to interpret articulate and implement variety of regulations, policies and procedures concerning community college. Disabled Student Program and Services (DSP&S). (i.e. American Disability Act Section 508; Family Education Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA); California Community college Title 5 Regulations; California Education Code). 2. Knowledge of Disabled Students Program and Services and its role and significance in higher education. 3. Demonstrated experience and ability in the application and use of access alternate media and adaptive technology. 4. Experience and ability to assist students with disabilities in the area of e-text, text on tape, closed captioning, Braille, and adaptive hardware and software packages. 5. Knowledge of access strategies for various types of electronic information, including distance education, web pages, and general computer technology. 6. Demonstrated ability to develop effective curriculum utilizing access technology. 7. Ability to develop and deliver presentations to professional committees and personnel. 8. Current knowledge of educational trends in the use and application of access technology. 9. Ability to provide assistance and work collaboratively with faculty in providing assistance and supportive services to students with disabilities. 10. Ability to assess current adaptive technology needs of the campus and assist in developing a campus access technology plan including online venues. 11. Ability to work collaboratively and professionally with colleagues. 12. Interact effectively with students with varying disabilities. 13. Demonstrated knowledge of supervisory techniques, theories, and practices. 14. Demonstrated sensitivity to, and understanding of, the diverse academic, socioeconomic, cultural, disability, and ethnic backgrounds of community college students. OTHER QUALIFICATIONS: Candidates will also be evaluated for qualifications in the following: 1. Knowledge and experience working with various disability groups. 2. Ability to liaison with other service agencies such as Department of Rehabilitation, The Blind Center, The Access Center, San Diego Regional Center, and Recordings for the Blind and Dyslexic. 3. Current and continued membership in professional organizations. 4. Willingness to participate in campus instructional and technology committees. 5. Demonstrated ability to communicate effectively both orally and in writing and professionally represent the college in the community. GENERAL RESPONSIBILITIES: Under administrative leadership of an assigned administrator, it is the responsibility of the contract Alternate Media-High Tech Center Access Specialist to coordinate the technical and professional day-to-day operation of the High Tech Center, oversee the implementation of assistive technology throughout the campus; serves as a liaison between faculty, administration, campus computing facilities, and Disabled Students Programs and Services (DSPS); provide technical assistance and support to faculty and staff in regard to the use of alternate media and assistive computer technology to meet campus accessibility needs; train and direct High Tech Center personnel; encourage program members to maintain a constant standard of excellence and support the visions, missions, and values of the colleges and District. This position may include a combination of day and evening assignments, and is being offered by a college strongly committed to the ?open door? concept serving a diverse student population. Faculty members will be expected to perform other duties consistent with their faculty job description as stated in the faculty contract. February 22, 2008 #07-00059 INITIAL SALARY PLACEMENT RANGE: $41,517 - $71,685/Yr. per negotiated agreement SALARY SCHEDULE RANGE: $41,517 (Class I, Step 1) - $88,292 (Class VII, Step 30)/Yr. per negotiated agreement Initial placement is based upon academic preparation from an accredited college or university and professional experience. A maximum of nine (9) years of professional work experience may be granted upon review and approval. Placement will not be granted for hourly, part-time, practice, or cadet teaching. Candidates are encouraged to visit the District Employment Services Department website for a copy of the salary schedule which includes placement provisions. STARTING DATE: Fall 2008. Pending successful completion of a required pre-placement physical. APPLICATION PROCEDURES: Applicants must submit the following: 1. A letter of application addressing how the applicant specifically meets the qualifications and responsibilities. 2. District Application for Alternate Media-High Tech Center Access Specialist Position and Supplemental Questionnaire (available at website: http://www.gcccd.edu). 3. A current curriculum vitae addressing applicant?s work history, academic and professional involvement, etc. 4. Copies of all college/university transcripts (official or unofficial) verifying degree(s) and/or course work. In order to be considered for this position, all materials must be received in the DISTRICT EMPLOYMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, APRIL 11, 2008 BY 4:30 P.M. Candidates possessing the minimum qualifications are not guaranteed an interview. SEND ALL MATERIALS TO: ALTERNATE MEDIA-HIGH TECH CENTER ACCESS SPECIALIST, #07-00059 GROSSMONT-CUYAMACA COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT DISTRICT EMPLOYMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT 8800 GROSSMONT COLLEGE DRIVE, EL CAJON CA 92020-1799 To ensure consistency and fairness to all candidates, submit only the material requested in the APPLICATION PROCEDURES; any additional information provided along with information requested by the District Employment Services Department for statistical purposes, which indicates candidate?s gender, age, ethnicity, religious preference, etc. will be removed from the applicant?s file prior to the screening process. All submitted materials become district property and cannot be returned. If you want copies of your documents, be sure to make copies before submitting to Employment Services. The mission of the Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District is to provide educational leadership through learning opportunities that anticipate, prepare for, and meet the future challenges of a complex democracy and a global society. Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District realizes that staff diversity in the academic environment fosters culture awareness, mutual understanding and respect, harmony and creativity, while providing suitable role models for all students. Cuyamaca College is located in the City of El Cajon, and the County of SAN DIEGO, and is thus close to beaches, mountains, the desert, and a multitude of cultural and recreational attractions. BENEFITS: The Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District provides an excellent comprehensive benefits program including medical, prescription drugs, vision care, dental, life and income protection insurance, and membership in the State Teachers? Retirement System (STRS). Under Federal Law, employers are required to verify that all new employees are eligible for employment in the United States. Prior to appointment to a position, you must present acceptable proof of your identity and authorization to work in the United States. NOTE: As a condition of employment, the selected candidate must complete the district?s fingerprint procedures and provide a processing fee of $32.00 plus a Live Scan fee. Candidates invited for interview who must travel distances greater than 250 miles (one-way) outside San Diego County will be reimbursed up to $200 for travel or airfare only. Applicants who are protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act due to a disability and who require accommodations for completing the application process or interviewing, please notify the District Employment Services Department. Phone (619) 644-7644, Telecommunications Device for the Deaf (TDD) (619) 644-7900. Visit our website at http://www.gcccd.edu District Employment Services 8800 Grossmont College Drive El Cajon, CA 92020-1799 From edward at ngtvoice.com Wed Apr 2 14:46:00 2008 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software from Premier Literacy In-Reply-To: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> References: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> Message-ID: <01c701c8950a$f227b800$d6772800$@com> We have worked with the good people from Premier Programming (then Premier Assistive Technology, then Premier Literacy) since they first entered the marketplace with their products. I find that they are very friendly company that is easy to do business with. They have been very generous with their "grant" program, and I believe that you will be able to get not for resale (NFR) copies of most of their software so that you can both evaluate the technology and let students who are interested test drive their products. They tend to work closely with advancements in operating systems to take advantage of what Microsoft provides to keep the costs of their products down. They were one of the first companies to put their assistive technologies on a flash drive for portability, which makes a lot of sense for most campus situations. They call their product Key to Access, and we have worked successfully with this with a number of students. I saw that someone else had posted some positive comments about a few of their products, and while I find that sometimes their products may not be as feature rich or as elegant as some of the competitive products they certainly have attractive price points, and they will stand behind any product should you have difficulties. A good example of this is their Scan and Read Pro software which I do not believe is as full featured as a product like Wynn Wizard or Kurzweil (nor as far-reaching in its capabilities), but at their price point of $149.95 it can often be a very viable solution for user of limited scanning/speaking needs at a very attractive price point. We've also been very satisfied with their Text Cloner Pro. -ed. Edward S. Rosenthal, President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies Inc. 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, WA 98036 Phone: 425-744-1100 extension 15; Fax: 425-778-5547 E-Mail: edward@ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 WWW: http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document was generated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking ver. 9 speech recognition technology with the revolutionary xTag wireless microphone from revolabs. Please disregard any remaining misrecognitions. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:54 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software I am wondering if anyone uses Premier Literacy software (formerly Premier Assistive Technology). Has anyone taken advantage of their grant program? If so, what do you like and what don't you like about the program? Thank you, Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Wed Apr 2 15:04:53 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project In-Reply-To: <004601c8950a$0e755040$f03142ab@stanford.edu> References: <004601c8950a$0e755040$f03142ab@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <004201c8950d$95cf8da0$c16ea8e0$@org> What a wonderful Idea! John was a creat inspiration and friend to many in the field and I for one was sorrowed by his passing. Many a fine evening was spent in the Broker Inn at AHG with John, glass of Merlot in hand, conversing on the meaning of live in the access world. I would strongly encourage the ATHEN membership to participate as life lets you. Perhaps the ATHEN student scholarship should be named to commemorate John's work as well? Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:40 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'; 'Alternate Media' Subject: [Athen] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project As many of you know, John Slatin passed away last week, and in celebration of how his life has touched so many of us in the accessibility arena a project is being launched that will both honor his memory and assist his family with significant expenses that remain from his long illness. There is a new project designed to help. The basic idea is this. 1) We get accessibility experts to volunteer a few hours of time to perform a brief accessibility review of a company or organization web site. 2) We get companies to sign up. They will contribute a minimum of US$500 to "The John Slatin Fund". 3) The expert and the company are paired and the review takes place, spreading the word on accessibility. This review will not be comprehensive but serve to provide an organization with enough information so that they can understand what the strengths and weaknesses of their site are and what course of action is recommended. Some site owners may need a more rigorous audit in order to completely understand all accessibility issues, but such an audit is out of the scope of a review that takes 3-4 hours. This is intended as an introduction to accessibility for the site owner who is interested in learning about this important topic. Accessibility experts will need to conduct a short review, using combinations of tests to provide a document with an overview of accessibility to the site for users with various disabilities. What we need is for people who are willing to donate a few hours of their time to sign up as reviewers, which you can do at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin/volunteer.php. In addition, we ask that everyone help spread the word about this project to help us get companies interested in an accessibility review to sign up and to donate to The John Slatin Fund. If you have a blog, please blog this project. A short description: --- The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project matches accessibility experts with companies that would like a brief review of their site for accessibility. In return, the site owner is asked to contribute a minimum of $500 to The John Slatin Fund. The John Slatin Fund was established to help John's beloved Anna offset the medical expenses incurred during John's long illness. The goal of this project is to raise $25,000 for that purpose. Learn about the project and sign up at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin --- This is a project developed and managed by friends of John. All proceeds go directly to John's family. Please join us in honoring John and helping his family. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From gdietrich at htctu.net Wed Apr 2 15:12:04 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] Another job announcement Message-ID: <010f01c8950e$95ecbd20$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> http://www.collegeofthedesert.edu/uploadedFiles/FTtenureTRACK%20DSPS%20Adapt ive%20Comp%20Spec-Inst%20Fall08.pdf Please use the above link for additional information about the DSPS High Tech Center Adaptive Computer Specialist/Instructor position. Please feel free to share the information on other list serves. Thank you. Michael J. O'Neill College of the Desert Coordinator of Disabled Students Programs & Services Professor - Special Education Specialist moneill@collegeofthedesert.edu (760) 773-2535 TDD: (760) 773-2598 Fax: (760) 862-1329 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcnameeb at wit.edu Thu Apr 3 06:14:16 2008 From: mcnameeb at wit.edu (McNamee, Bridget) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software (Bridget McNamee) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <823FE16A6E5CEC4C8E0CE54670D07C9B02835B5B@EVS2.wit.private> We have just purchased some of their Premier To Go USB's. I have been using a trial version for a while and it's been great. It has 10 software programs on one flash drive and comes with great customer service. Bridget Bridget McNamee Disability Outreach Specialist Wentworth Institute of Technology 550 Huntington Avenue Boston, MA 02115-4998 (617) 989-4544 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:46 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Screen readers/other software (Carol Raymundo) 2. Re: Screen readers/other software (Kelmer, Susan M.) 3. Call for Proposals: Mellon Award for Technology Collaboration Awards 2008 (Jon Gunderson) 4. The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project (John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program) 5. Job Announcement (Gaeir Dietrich) 6. Re: Screen readers/other software from Premier Literacy (Ed. Rosenthal) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:53:38 -0700 From: "Carol Raymundo" Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software To: Message-ID: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am wondering if anyone uses Premier Literacy software (formerly Premier Assistive Technology). Has anyone taken advantage of their grant program? If so, what do you like and what don't you like about the program? Thank you, Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080402/c6 60ff93/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:30:03 -0500 From: "Kelmer, Susan M." Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We use their Text-to-Audio almost exclusively for producing mp3's of text. We also have the talking word processor deployed widely on our campus and students like it very much. Its word predictor is really good. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL Technology and Educational Support Services/ Campus Technology Support Services St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080402/31 f3e431/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:07:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Jon Gunderson Subject: [Athen] Call for Proposals: Mellon Award for Technology Collaboration Awards 2008 To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: <20080402160734.BED27921@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The Mellon Foundation is supporting open source software projects, receive either $50K or $100K for your open source project. More details at their website. They have supported a number of disability related projects, including the Firefox Accessibility Extension. http://matc.mellon.org/ Applications due April 14th, 2008. Jon Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility Disability Resources and Educational Services Rehabilitation Education Center Room 86 1207 S. Oak Street Champaign, Illinois 61821 Voice: (217) 244-5870 WWW: http://www.cita.uiuc.edu/ WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:39:39 -0700 From: "John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program" Subject: [Athen] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" , "'Alternate Media'" Message-ID: <004601c8950a$0e755040$f03142ab@stanford.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As many of you know, John Slatin passed away last week, and in celebration of how his life has touched so many of us in the accessibility arena a project is being launched that will both honor his memory and assist his family with significant expenses that remain from his long illness. There is a new project designed to help. The basic idea is this. 1) We get accessibility experts to volunteer a few hours of time to perform a brief accessibility review of a company or organization web site. 2) We get companies to sign up. They will contribute a minimum of US$500 to "The John Slatin Fund". 3) The expert and the company are paired and the review takes place, spreading the word on accessibility. This review will not be comprehensive but serve to provide an organization with enough information so that they can understand what the strengths and weaknesses of their site are and what course of action is recommended. Some site owners may need a more rigorous audit in order to completely understand all accessibility issues, but such an audit is out of the scope of a review that takes 3-4 hours. This is intended as an introduction to accessibility for the site owner who is interested in learning about this important topic. Accessibility experts will need to conduct a short review, using combinations of tests to provide a document with an overview of accessibility to the site for users with various disabilities. What we need is for people who are willing to donate a few hours of their time to sign up as reviewers, which you can do at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin/volunteer.php. In addition, we ask that everyone help spread the word about this project to help us get companies interested in an accessibility review to sign up and to donate to The John Slatin Fund. If you have a blog, please blog this project. A short description: --- The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project matches accessibility experts with companies that would like a brief review of their site for accessibility. In return, the site owner is asked to contribute a minimum of $500 to The John Slatin Fund. The John Slatin Fund was established to help John's beloved Anna offset the medical expenses incurred during John's long illness. The goal of this project is to raise $25,000 for that purpose. Learn about the project and sign up at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin --- This is a project developed and managed by friends of John. All proceeds go directly to John's family. Please join us in honoring John and helping his family. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:43:36 -0700 From: "Gaeir Dietrich" Subject: [Athen] Job Announcement To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <007701c8950a$9bbf3470$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" ALTERNATE MEDIA-HIGH TECH CENTER ACCESS SPECIALIST DSPS DEPARTMENT FULL TIME CONTRACT, TENURE TRACK (10 MONTHS) The Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District is accepting letters of application for this academic position located at Cuyamaca College. While the current vacancy exists at Cuyamaca College, applicants should understand that they are subject to assignment to any District facility. MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS: APPLICANTS MUST MEET ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA: ???Master?s in the category of disability, special education, education, psychology, educational psychology, or rehabilitation counseling; AND fifteen semester units of upper division or graduate study in the area of disability, to include but not be limited to: learning disabilities, developmental disabilities, deaf and hearing impaired; physical disabilities; or adapted computer technology; OR ???A current California Community College Credential that permits full time service as an Alternate Media-High Tech Center Access Specialist; OR ???The equivalent. If you are applying based on ?the equivalent?, you will need to complete an Equivalency Determination Form, located at http://www.gcccd.edu/hr/Misc.PDF/EQUIVFRM.Full.Time.pdf. This form must be submitted as part of the application procedures. NECESSARY QUALIFICATIONS: 1. Demonstrated experience and ability to interpret articulate and implement variety of regulations, policies and procedures concerning community college. Disabled Student Program and Services (DSP&S). (i.e. American Disability Act Section 508; Family Education Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA); California Community college Title 5 Regulations; California Education Code). 2. Knowledge of Disabled Students Program and Services and its role and significance in higher education. 3. Demonstrated experience and ability in the application and use of access alternate media and adaptive technology. 4. Experience and ability to assist students with disabilities in the area of e-text, text on tape, closed captioning, Braille, and adaptive hardware and software packages. 5. Knowledge of access strategies for various types of electronic information, including distance education, web pages, and general computer technology. 6. Demonstrated ability to develop effective curriculum utilizing access technology. 7. Ability to develop and deliver presentations to professional committees and personnel. 8. Current knowledge of educational trends in the use and application of access technology. 9. Ability to provide assistance and work collaboratively with faculty in providing assistance and supportive services to students with disabilities. 10. Ability to assess current adaptive technology needs of the campus and assist in developing a campus access technology plan including online venues. 11. Ability to work collaboratively and professionally with colleagues. 12. Interact effectively with students with varying disabilities. 13. Demonstrated knowledge of supervisory techniques, theories, and practices. 14. Demonstrated sensitivity to, and understanding of, the diverse academic, socioeconomic, cultural, disability, and ethnic backgrounds of community college students. OTHER QUALIFICATIONS: Candidates will also be evaluated for qualifications in the following: 1. Knowledge and experience working with various disability groups. 2. Ability to liaison with other service agencies such as Department of Rehabilitation, The Blind Center, The Access Center, San Diego Regional Center, and Recordings for the Blind and Dyslexic. 3. Current and continued membership in professional organizations. 4. Willingness to participate in campus instructional and technology committees. 5. Demonstrated ability to communicate effectively both orally and in writing and professionally represent the college in the community. GENERAL RESPONSIBILITIES: Under administrative leadership of an assigned administrator, it is the responsibility of the contract Alternate Media-High Tech Center Access Specialist to coordinate the technical and professional day-to-day operation of the High Tech Center, oversee the implementation of assistive technology throughout the campus; serves as a liaison between faculty, administration, campus computing facilities, and Disabled Students Programs and Services (DSPS); provide technical assistance and support to faculty and staff in regard to the use of alternate media and assistive computer technology to meet campus accessibility needs; train and direct High Tech Center personnel; encourage program members to maintain a constant standard of excellence and support the visions, missions, and values of the colleges and District. This position may include a combination of day and evening assignments, and is being offered by a college strongly committed to the ?open door? co ncept serving a diverse student population. Faculty members will be expected to perform other duties consistent with their faculty job description as stated in the faculty contract. February 22, 2008 #07-00059 INITIAL SALARY PLACEMENT RANGE: $41,517 - $71,685/Yr. per negotiated agreement SALARY SCHEDULE RANGE: $41,517 (Class I, Step 1) - $88,292 (Class VII, Step 30)/Yr. per negotiated agreement Initial placement is based upon academic preparation from an accredited college or university and professional experience. A maximum of nine (9) years of professional work experience may be granted upon review and approval. Placement will not be granted for hourly, part-time, practice, or cadet teaching. Candidates are encouraged to visit the District Employment Services Department website for a copy of the salary schedule which includes placement provisions. STARTING DATE: Fall 2008. Pending successful completion of a required pre-placement physical. APPLICATION PROCEDURES: Applicants must submit the following: 1. A letter of application addressing how the applicant specifically meets the qualifications and responsibilities. 2. District Application for Alternate Media-High Tech Center Access Specialist Position and Supplemental Questionnaire (available at website: http://www.gcccd.edu). 3. A current curriculum vitae addressing applicant?s work history, academic and professional involvement, etc. 4. Copies of all college/university transcripts (official or unofficial) verifying degree(s) and/or course work. In order to be considered for this position, all materials must be received in the DISTRICT EMPLOYMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, APRIL 11, 2008 BY 4:30 P.M. Candidates possessing the minimum qualifications are not guaranteed an interview. SEND ALL MATERIALS TO: ALTERNATE MEDIA-HIGH TECH CENTER ACCESS SPECIALIST, #07-00059 GROSSMONT-CUYAMACA COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT DISTRICT EMPLOYMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT 8800 GROSSMONT COLLEGE DRIVE, EL CAJON CA 92020-1799 To ensure consistency and fairness to all candidates, submit only the material requested in the APPLICATION PROCEDURES; any additional information provided along with information requested by the District Employment Services Department for statistical purposes, which indicates candidate?s gender, age, ethnicity, religious preference, etc. will be removed from the applicant?s file prior to the screening process. All submitted materials become district property and cannot be returned. If you want copies of your documents, be sure to make copies before submitting to Employment Services. The mission of the Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District is to provide educational leadership through learning opportunities that anticipate, prepare for, and meet the future challenges of a complex democracy and a global society. Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District realizes that staff diversity in the academic environment fosters culture awareness, mutual understanding and respect, harmony and creativity, while providing suitable role models for all students. Cuyamaca College is located in the City of El Cajon, and the County of SAN DIEGO, and is thus close to beaches, mountains, the desert, and a multitude of cultural and recreational attractions. BENEFITS: The Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District provides an excellent comprehensive benefits program including medical, prescription drugs, vision care, dental, life and income protection insurance, and membership in the State Teachers? Retirement System (STRS). Under Federal Law, employers are required to verify that all new employees are eligible for employment in the United States. Prior to appointment to a position, you must present acceptable proof of your identity and authorization to work in the United States. NOTE: As a condition of employment, the selected candidate must complete the district?s fingerprint procedures and provide a processing fee of $32.00 plus a Live Scan fee. Candidates invited for interview who must travel distances greater than 250 miles (one-way) outside San Diego County will be reimbursed up to $200 for travel or airfare only. Applicants who are protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act due to a disability and who require accommodations for completing the application process or interviewing, please notify the District Employment Services Department. Phone (619) 644-7644, Telecommunications Device for the Deaf (TDD) (619) 644-7900. Visit our website at http://www.gcccd.edu District Employment Services 8800 Grossmont College Drive El Cajon, CA 92020-1799 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:46:00 -0700 From: "Ed. Rosenthal" Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software from Premier Literacy To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <01c701c8950a$f227b800$d6772800$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We have worked with the good people from Premier Programming (then Premier Assistive Technology, then Premier Literacy) since they first entered the marketplace with their products. I find that they are very friendly company that is easy to do business with. They have been very generous with their "grant" program, and I believe that you will be able to get not for resale (NFR) copies of most of their software so that you can both evaluate the technology and let students who are interested test drive their products. They tend to work closely with advancements in operating systems to take advantage of what Microsoft provides to keep the costs of their products down. They were one of the first companies to put their assistive technologies on a flash drive for portability, which makes a lot of sense for most campus situations. They call their product Key to Access, and we have worked successfully with this with a number of students. I saw that someone else had posted some positive comments about a few of their products, and while I find that sometimes their products may not be as feature rich or as elegant as some of the competitive products they certainly have attractive price points, and they will stand behind any product should you have difficulties. A good example of this is their Scan and Read Pro software which I do not believe is as full featured as a product like Wynn Wizard or Kurzweil (nor as far-reaching in its capabilities), but at their price point of $149.95 it can often be a very viable solution for user of limited scanning/speaking needs at a very attractive price point. We've also been very satisfied with their Text Cloner Pro. -ed. Edward S. Rosenthal, President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies Inc. 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, WA 98036 Phone: 425-744-1100 extension 15; Fax: 425-778-5547 E-Mail: edward@ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 WWW: http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document was generated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking ver. 9 speech recognition technology with the revolutionary xTag wireless microphone from revolabs. Please disregard any remaining misrecognitions. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:54 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software I am wondering if anyone uses Premier Literacy software (formerly Premier Assistive Technology). Has anyone taken advantage of their grant program? If so, what do you like and what don't you like about the program? Thank you, Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080402/f1 d01a5f/attachment.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 ************************************ From saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu Thu Apr 3 06:30:52 2008 From: saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu (Saroj Primlani) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] John Slatin Fund In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000c01c8958e$f08805c0$3fc00798@sarojnewlaptop> I remember those times too and have missed his presence at AHG over the last few years. While each one can make a personal commitment if they want, how about making this an ATHEN project, leveraging the range of abilities and time commitments of the membership allowing more to participate. I wonder how we could work out the logistics Saroj _________________________________ Saroj Primlani Coordinator of University IT Accessibility Office of Information Technology 919 513 4087 http://ncsu.edu/it/access -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:15 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 27, Issue 3 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [ATHEN] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project (Ron Stewart) 2. Another job announcement (Gaeir Dietrich) 3. Re: Screen readers/other software (Bridget McNamee) (McNamee, Bridget) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:04:53 -0400 From: "Ron Stewart" Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <004201c8950d$95cf8da0$c16ea8e0$@org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What a wonderful Idea! John was a creat inspiration and friend to many in the field and I for one was sorrowed by his passing. Many a fine evening was spent in the Broker Inn at AHG with John, glass of Merlot in hand, conversing on the meaning of live in the access world. I would strongly encourage the ATHEN membership to participate as life lets you. Perhaps the ATHEN student scholarship should be named to commemorate John's work as well? Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:40 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'; 'Alternate Media' Subject: [Athen] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project As many of you know, John Slatin passed away last week, and in celebration of how his life has touched so many of us in the accessibility arena a project is being launched that will both honor his memory and assist his family with significant expenses that remain from his long illness. There is a new project designed to help. The basic idea is this. 1) We get accessibility experts to volunteer a few hours of time to perform a brief accessibility review of a company or organization web site. 2) We get companies to sign up. They will contribute a minimum of US$500 to "The John Slatin Fund". 3) The expert and the company are paired and the review takes place, spreading the word on accessibility. This review will not be comprehensive but serve to provide an organization with enough information so that they can understand what the strengths and weaknesses of their site are and what course of action is recommended. Some site owners may need a more rigorous audit in order to completely understand all accessibility issues, but such an audit is out of the scope of a review that takes 3-4 hours. This is intended as an introduction to accessibility for the site owner who is interested in learning about this important topic. Accessibility experts will need to conduct a short review, using combinations of tests to provide a document with an overview of accessibility to the site for users with various disabilities. What we need is for people who are willing to donate a few hours of their time to sign up as reviewers, which you can do at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin/volunteer.php. In addition, we ask that everyone help spread the word about this project to help us get companies interested in an accessibility review to sign up and to donate to The John Slatin Fund. If you have a blog, please blog this project. A short description: --- The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project matches accessibility experts with companies that would like a brief review of their site for accessibility. In return, the site owner is asked to contribute a minimum of $500 to The John Slatin Fund. The John Slatin Fund was established to help John's beloved Anna offset the medical expenses incurred during John's long illness. The goal of this project is to raise $25,000 for that purpose. Learn about the project and sign up at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin --- This is a project developed and managed by friends of John. All proceeds go directly to John's family. Please join us in honoring John and helping his family. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:12:04 -0700 From: "Gaeir Dietrich" Subject: [Athen] Another job announcement To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <010f01c8950e$95ecbd20$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" http://www.collegeofthedesert.edu/uploadedFiles/FTtenureTRACK%20DSPS%20Adapt ive%20Comp%20Spec-Inst%20Fall08.pdf Please use the above link for additional information about the DSPS High Tech Center Adaptive Computer Specialist/Instructor position. Please feel free to share the information on other list serves. Thank you. Michael J. O'Neill College of the Desert Coordinator of Disabled Students Programs & Services Professor - Special Education Specialist moneill@collegeofthedesert.edu (760) 773-2535 TDD: (760) 773-2598 Fax: (760) 862-1329 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080402/6367e6 e4/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:14:16 -0400 From: "McNamee, Bridget" Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software (Bridget McNamee) To: Message-ID: <823FE16A6E5CEC4C8E0CE54670D07C9B02835B5B@EVS2.wit.private> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We have just purchased some of their Premier To Go USB's. I have been using a trial version for a while and it's been great. It has 10 software programs on one flash drive and comes with great customer service. Bridget Bridget McNamee Disability Outreach Specialist Wentworth Institute of Technology 550 Huntington Avenue Boston, MA 02115-4998 (617) 989-4544 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:46 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Screen readers/other software (Carol Raymundo) 2. Re: Screen readers/other software (Kelmer, Susan M.) 3. Call for Proposals: Mellon Award for Technology Collaboration Awards 2008 (Jon Gunderson) 4. The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project (John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program) 5. Job Announcement (Gaeir Dietrich) 6. Re: Screen readers/other software from Premier Literacy (Ed. Rosenthal) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:53:38 -0700 From: "Carol Raymundo" Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software To: Message-ID: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am wondering if anyone uses Premier Literacy software (formerly Premier Assistive Technology). Has anyone taken advantage of their grant program? If so, what do you like and what don't you like about the program? Thank you, Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080402/c6 60ff93/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:30:03 -0500 From: "Kelmer, Susan M." Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We use their Text-to-Audio almost exclusively for producing mp3's of text. We also have the talking word processor deployed widely on our campus and students like it very much. Its word predictor is really good. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL Technology and Educational Support Services/ Campus Technology Support Services St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080402/31 f3e431/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:07:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Jon Gunderson Subject: [Athen] Call for Proposals: Mellon Award for Technology Collaboration Awards 2008 To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: <20080402160734.BED27921@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The Mellon Foundation is supporting open source software projects, receive either $50K or $100K for your open source project. More details at their website. They have supported a number of disability related projects, including the Firefox Accessibility Extension. http://matc.mellon.org/ Applications due April 14th, 2008. Jon Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility Disability Resources and Educational Services Rehabilitation Education Center Room 86 1207 S. Oak Street Champaign, Illinois 61821 Voice: (217) 244-5870 WWW: http://www.cita.uiuc.edu/ WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:39:39 -0700 From: "John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program" Subject: [Athen] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" , "'Alternate Media'" Message-ID: <004601c8950a$0e755040$f03142ab@stanford.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As many of you know, John Slatin passed away last week, and in celebration of how his life has touched so many of us in the accessibility arena a project is being launched that will both honor his memory and assist his family with significant expenses that remain from his long illness. There is a new project designed to help. The basic idea is this. 1) We get accessibility experts to volunteer a few hours of time to perform a brief accessibility review of a company or organization web site. 2) We get companies to sign up. They will contribute a minimum of US$500 to "The John Slatin Fund". 3) The expert and the company are paired and the review takes place, spreading the word on accessibility. This review will not be comprehensive but serve to provide an organization with enough information so that they can understand what the strengths and weaknesses of their site are and what course of action is recommended. Some site owners may need a more rigorous audit in order to completely understand all accessibility issues, but such an audit is out of the scope of a review that takes 3-4 hours. This is intended as an introduction to accessibility for the site owner who is interested in learning about this important topic. Accessibility experts will need to conduct a short review, using combinations of tests to provide a document with an overview of accessibility to the site for users with various disabilities. What we need is for people who are willing to donate a few hours of their time to sign up as reviewers, which you can do at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin/volunteer.php. In addition, we ask that everyone help spread the word about this project to help us get companies interested in an accessibility review to sign up and to donate to The John Slatin Fund. If you have a blog, please blog this project. A short description: --- The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project matches accessibility experts with companies that would like a brief review of their site for accessibility. In return, the site owner is asked to contribute a minimum of $500 to The John Slatin Fund. The John Slatin Fund was established to help John's beloved Anna offset the medical expenses incurred during John's long illness. The goal of this project is to raise $25,000 for that purpose. Learn about the project and sign up at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin --- This is a project developed and managed by friends of John. All proceeds go directly to John's family. Please join us in honoring John and helping his family. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:43:36 -0700 From: "Gaeir Dietrich" Subject: [Athen] Job Announcement To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <007701c8950a$9bbf3470$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" ALTERNATE MEDIA-HIGH TECH CENTER ACCESS SPECIALIST DSPS DEPARTMENT FULL TIME CONTRACT, TENURE TRACK (10 MONTHS) The Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District is accepting letters of application for this academic position located at Cuyamaca College. While the current vacancy exists at Cuyamaca College, applicants should understand that they are subject to assignment to any District facility. MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS: APPLICANTS MUST MEET ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA: ???Master?s in the category of disability, special education, education, psychology, educational psychology, or rehabilitation counseling; AND fifteen semester units of upper division or graduate study in the area of disability, to include but not be limited to: learning disabilities, developmental disabilities, deaf and hearing impaired; physical disabilities; or adapted computer technology; OR ???A current California Community College Credential that permits full time service as an Alternate Media-High Tech Center Access Specialist; OR ???The equivalent. If you are applying based on ?the equivalent?, you will need to complete an Equivalency Determination Form, located at http://www.gcccd.edu/hr/Misc.PDF/EQUIVFRM.Full.Time.pdf. This form must be submitted as part of the application procedures. NECESSARY QUALIFICATIONS: 1. Demonstrated experience and ability to interpret articulate and implement variety of regulations, policies and procedures concerning community college. Disabled Student Program and Services (DSP&S). (i.e. American Disability Act Section 508; Family Education Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA); California Community college Title 5 Regulations; California Education Code). 2. Knowledge of Disabled Students Program and Services and its role and significance in higher education. 3. Demonstrated experience and ability in the application and use of access alternate media and adaptive technology. 4. Experience and ability to assist students with disabilities in the area of e-text, text on tape, closed captioning, Braille, and adaptive hardware and software packages. 5. Knowledge of access strategies for various types of electronic information, including distance education, web pages, and general computer technology. 6. Demonstrated ability to develop effective curriculum utilizing access technology. 7. Ability to develop and deliver presentations to professional committees and personnel. 8. Current knowledge of educational trends in the use and application of access technology. 9. Ability to provide assistance and work collaboratively with faculty in providing assistance and supportive services to students with disabilities. 10. Ability to assess current adaptive technology needs of the campus and assist in developing a campus access technology plan including online venues. 11. Ability to work collaboratively and professionally with colleagues. 12. Interact effectively with students with varying disabilities. 13. Demonstrated knowledge of supervisory techniques, theories, and practices. 14. Demonstrated sensitivity to, and understanding of, the diverse academic, socioeconomic, cultural, disability, and ethnic backgrounds of community college students. OTHER QUALIFICATIONS: Candidates will also be evaluated for qualifications in the following: 1. Knowledge and experience working with various disability groups. 2. Ability to liaison with other service agencies such as Department of Rehabilitation, The Blind Center, The Access Center, San Diego Regional Center, and Recordings for the Blind and Dyslexic. 3. Current and continued membership in professional organizations. 4. Willingness to participate in campus instructional and technology committees. 5. Demonstrated ability to communicate effectively both orally and in writing and professionally represent the college in the community. GENERAL RESPONSIBILITIES: Under administrative leadership of an assigned administrator, it is the responsibility of the contract Alternate Media-High Tech Center Access Specialist to coordinate the technical and professional day-to-day operation of the High Tech Center, oversee the implementation of assistive technology throughout the campus; serves as a liaison between faculty, administration, campus computing facilities, and Disabled Students Programs and Services (DSPS); provide technical assistance and support to faculty and staff in regard to the use of alternate media and assistive computer technology to meet campus accessibility needs; train and direct High Tech Center personnel; encourage program members to maintain a constant standard of excellence and support the visions, missions, and values of the colleges and District. This position may include a combination of day and evening assignments, and is being offered by a college strongly committed to the ?open door? co ncept serving a diverse student population. Faculty members will be expected to perform other duties consistent with their faculty job description as stated in the faculty contract. February 22, 2008 #07-00059 INITIAL SALARY PLACEMENT RANGE: $41,517 - $71,685/Yr. per negotiated agreement SALARY SCHEDULE RANGE: $41,517 (Class I, Step 1) - $88,292 (Class VII, Step 30)/Yr. per negotiated agreement Initial placement is based upon academic preparation from an accredited college or university and professional experience. A maximum of nine (9) years of professional work experience may be granted upon review and approval. Placement will not be granted for hourly, part-time, practice, or cadet teaching. Candidates are encouraged to visit the District Employment Services Department website for a copy of the salary schedule which includes placement provisions. STARTING DATE: Fall 2008. Pending successful completion of a required pre-placement physical. APPLICATION PROCEDURES: Applicants must submit the following: 1. A letter of application addressing how the applicant specifically meets the qualifications and responsibilities. 2. District Application for Alternate Media-High Tech Center Access Specialist Position and Supplemental Questionnaire (available at website: http://www.gcccd.edu). 3. A current curriculum vitae addressing applicant?s work history, academic and professional involvement, etc. 4. Copies of all college/university transcripts (official or unofficial) verifying degree(s) and/or course work. In order to be considered for this position, all materials must be received in the DISTRICT EMPLOYMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, APRIL 11, 2008 BY 4:30 P.M. Candidates possessing the minimum qualifications are not guaranteed an interview. SEND ALL MATERIALS TO: ALTERNATE MEDIA-HIGH TECH CENTER ACCESS SPECIALIST, #07-00059 GROSSMONT-CUYAMACA COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT DISTRICT EMPLOYMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT 8800 GROSSMONT COLLEGE DRIVE, EL CAJON CA 92020-1799 To ensure consistency and fairness to all candidates, submit only the material requested in the APPLICATION PROCEDURES; any additional information provided along with information requested by the District Employment Services Department for statistical purposes, which indicates candidate?s gender, age, ethnicity, religious preference, etc. will be removed from the applicant?s file prior to the screening process. All submitted materials become district property and cannot be returned. If you want copies of your documents, be sure to make copies before submitting to Employment Services. The mission of the Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District is to provide educational leadership through learning opportunities that anticipate, prepare for, and meet the future challenges of a complex democracy and a global society. Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District realizes that staff diversity in the academic environment fosters culture awareness, mutual understanding and respect, harmony and creativity, while providing suitable role models for all students. Cuyamaca College is located in the City of El Cajon, and the County of SAN DIEGO, and is thus close to beaches, mountains, the desert, and a multitude of cultural and recreational attractions. BENEFITS: The Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District provides an excellent comprehensive benefits program including medical, prescription drugs, vision care, dental, life and income protection insurance, and membership in the State Teachers? Retirement System (STRS). Under Federal Law, employers are required to verify that all new employees are eligible for employment in the United States. Prior to appointment to a position, you must present acceptable proof of your identity and authorization to work in the United States. NOTE: As a condition of employment, the selected candidate must complete the district?s fingerprint procedures and provide a processing fee of $32.00 plus a Live Scan fee. Candidates invited for interview who must travel distances greater than 250 miles (one-way) outside San Diego County will be reimbursed up to $200 for travel or airfare only. Applicants who are protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act due to a disability and who require accommodations for completing the application process or interviewing, please notify the District Employment Services Department. Phone (619) 644-7644, Telecommunications Device for the Deaf (TDD) (619) 644-7900. Visit our website at http://www.gcccd.edu District Employment Services 8800 Grossmont College Drive El Cajon, CA 92020-1799 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:46:00 -0700 From: "Ed. Rosenthal" Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software from Premier Literacy To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <01c701c8950a$f227b800$d6772800$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We have worked with the good people from Premier Programming (then Premier Assistive Technology, then Premier Literacy) since they first entered the marketplace with their products. I find that they are very friendly company that is easy to do business with. They have been very generous with their "grant" program, and I believe that you will be able to get not for resale (NFR) copies of most of their software so that you can both evaluate the technology and let students who are interested test drive their products. They tend to work closely with advancements in operating systems to take advantage of what Microsoft provides to keep the costs of their products down. They were one of the first companies to put their assistive technologies on a flash drive for portability, which makes a lot of sense for most campus situations. They call their product Key to Access, and we have worked successfully with this with a number of students. I saw that someone else had posted some positive comments about a few of their products, and while I find that sometimes their products may not be as feature rich or as elegant as some of the competitive products they certainly have attractive price points, and they will stand behind any product should you have difficulties. A good example of this is their Scan and Read Pro software which I do not believe is as full featured as a product like Wynn Wizard or Kurzweil (nor as far-reaching in its capabilities), but at their price point of $149.95 it can often be a very viable solution for user of limited scanning/speaking needs at a very attractive price point. We've also been very satisfied with their Text Cloner Pro. -ed. Edward S. Rosenthal, President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies Inc. 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, WA 98036 Phone: 425-744-1100 extension 15; Fax: 425-778-5547 E-Mail: edward@ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 WWW: http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document was generated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking ver. 9 speech recognition technology with the revolutionary xTag wireless microphone from revolabs. Please disregard any remaining misrecognitions. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:54 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software I am wondering if anyone uses Premier Literacy software (formerly Premier Assistive Technology). Has anyone taken advantage of their grant program? If so, what do you like and what don't you like about the program? Thank you, Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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How do we make this so? I vote yea! JF =================================== John Foliot Academic Technology Consultant Stanford Online Accessibility Program http://soap.stanford.edu Stanford University Tel: 650-862-4603 =================================== From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Thu Apr 3 07:55:16 2008 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] John Slatin Fund In-Reply-To: <000c01c8958e$f08805c0$3fc00798@sarojnewlaptop> References: <000c01c8958e$f08805c0$3fc00798@sarojnewlaptop> Message-ID: <004601c8959a$bd4c1000$37e43000$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Saroj is this something you are willing to take the lead on? Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Saroj Primlani Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:31 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] John Slatin Fund I remember those times too and have missed his presence at AHG over the last few years. While each one can make a personal commitment if they want, how about making this an ATHEN project, leveraging the range of abilities and time commitments of the membership allowing more to participate. I wonder how we could work out the logistics Saroj _________________________________ Saroj Primlani Coordinator of University IT Accessibility Office of Information Technology 919 513 4087 http://ncsu.edu/it/access -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:15 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 27, Issue 3 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [ATHEN] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project (Ron Stewart) 2. Another job announcement (Gaeir Dietrich) 3. Re: Screen readers/other software (Bridget McNamee) (McNamee, Bridget) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:04:53 -0400 From: "Ron Stewart" Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <004201c8950d$95cf8da0$c16ea8e0$@org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What a wonderful Idea! John was a creat inspiration and friend to many in the field and I for one was sorrowed by his passing. Many a fine evening was spent in the Broker Inn at AHG with John, glass of Merlot in hand, conversing on the meaning of live in the access world. I would strongly encourage the ATHEN membership to participate as life lets you. Perhaps the ATHEN student scholarship should be named to commemorate John's work as well? Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:40 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'; 'Alternate Media' Subject: [Athen] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project As many of you know, John Slatin passed away last week, and in celebration of how his life has touched so many of us in the accessibility arena a project is being launched that will both honor his memory and assist his family with significant expenses that remain from his long illness. There is a new project designed to help. The basic idea is this. 1) We get accessibility experts to volunteer a few hours of time to perform a brief accessibility review of a company or organization web site. 2) We get companies to sign up. They will contribute a minimum of US$500 to "The John Slatin Fund". 3) The expert and the company are paired and the review takes place, spreading the word on accessibility. This review will not be comprehensive but serve to provide an organization with enough information so that they can understand what the strengths and weaknesses of their site are and what course of action is recommended. Some site owners may need a more rigorous audit in order to completely understand all accessibility issues, but such an audit is out of the scope of a review that takes 3-4 hours. This is intended as an introduction to accessibility for the site owner who is interested in learning about this important topic. Accessibility experts will need to conduct a short review, using combinations of tests to provide a document with an overview of accessibility to the site for users with various disabilities. What we need is for people who are willing to donate a few hours of their time to sign up as reviewers, which you can do at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin/volunteer.php. In addition, we ask that everyone help spread the word about this project to help us get companies interested in an accessibility review to sign up and to donate to The John Slatin Fund. If you have a blog, please blog this project. A short description: --- The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project matches accessibility experts with companies that would like a brief review of their site for accessibility. In return, the site owner is asked to contribute a minimum of $500 to The John Slatin Fund. The John Slatin Fund was established to help John's beloved Anna offset the medical expenses incurred during John's long illness. The goal of this project is to raise $25,000 for that purpose. Learn about the project and sign up at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin --- This is a project developed and managed by friends of John. All proceeds go directly to John's family. Please join us in honoring John and helping his family. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:12:04 -0700 From: "Gaeir Dietrich" Subject: [Athen] Another job announcement To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <010f01c8950e$95ecbd20$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" http://www.collegeofthedesert.edu/uploadedFiles/FTtenureTRACK%20DSPS%20Adapt ive%20Comp%20Spec-Inst%20Fall08.pdf Please use the above link for additional information about the DSPS High Tech Center Adaptive Computer Specialist/Instructor position. Please feel free to share the information on other list serves. Thank you. Michael J. O'Neill College of the Desert Coordinator of Disabled Students Programs & Services Professor - Special Education Specialist moneill@collegeofthedesert.edu (760) 773-2535 TDD: (760) 773-2598 Fax: (760) 862-1329 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080402/6367e6 e4/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:14:16 -0400 From: "McNamee, Bridget" Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software (Bridget McNamee) To: Message-ID: <823FE16A6E5CEC4C8E0CE54670D07C9B02835B5B@EVS2.wit.private> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We have just purchased some of their Premier To Go USB's. I have been using a trial version for a while and it's been great. It has 10 software programs on one flash drive and comes with great customer service. Bridget Bridget McNamee Disability Outreach Specialist Wentworth Institute of Technology 550 Huntington Avenue Boston, MA 02115-4998 (617) 989-4544 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:46 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Screen readers/other software (Carol Raymundo) 2. Re: Screen readers/other software (Kelmer, Susan M.) 3. Call for Proposals: Mellon Award for Technology Collaboration Awards 2008 (Jon Gunderson) 4. The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project (John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program) 5. Job Announcement (Gaeir Dietrich) 6. Re: Screen readers/other software from Premier Literacy (Ed. Rosenthal) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:53:38 -0700 From: "Carol Raymundo" Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software To: Message-ID: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am wondering if anyone uses Premier Literacy software (formerly Premier Assistive Technology). Has anyone taken advantage of their grant program? If so, what do you like and what don't you like about the program? Thank you, Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080402/c6 60ff93/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:30:03 -0500 From: "Kelmer, Susan M." Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We use their Text-to-Audio almost exclusively for producing mp3's of text. We also have the talking word processor deployed widely on our campus and students like it very much. Its word predictor is really good. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL Technology and Educational Support Services/ Campus Technology Support Services St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080402/31 f3e431/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:07:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Jon Gunderson Subject: [Athen] Call for Proposals: Mellon Award for Technology Collaboration Awards 2008 To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: <20080402160734.BED27921@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The Mellon Foundation is supporting open source software projects, receive either $50K or $100K for your open source project. More details at their website. They have supported a number of disability related projects, including the Firefox Accessibility Extension. http://matc.mellon.org/ Applications due April 14th, 2008. Jon Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility Disability Resources and Educational Services Rehabilitation Education Center Room 86 1207 S. Oak Street Champaign, Illinois 61821 Voice: (217) 244-5870 WWW: http://www.cita.uiuc.edu/ WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:39:39 -0700 From: "John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program" Subject: [Athen] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" , "'Alternate Media'" Message-ID: <004601c8950a$0e755040$f03142ab@stanford.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As many of you know, John Slatin passed away last week, and in celebration of how his life has touched so many of us in the accessibility arena a project is being launched that will both honor his memory and assist his family with significant expenses that remain from his long illness. There is a new project designed to help. The basic idea is this. 1) We get accessibility experts to volunteer a few hours of time to perform a brief accessibility review of a company or organization web site. 2) We get companies to sign up. They will contribute a minimum of US$500 to "The John Slatin Fund". 3) The expert and the company are paired and the review takes place, spreading the word on accessibility. This review will not be comprehensive but serve to provide an organization with enough information so that they can understand what the strengths and weaknesses of their site are and what course of action is recommended. Some site owners may need a more rigorous audit in order to completely understand all accessibility issues, but such an audit is out of the scope of a review that takes 3-4 hours. This is intended as an introduction to accessibility for the site owner who is interested in learning about this important topic. Accessibility experts will need to conduct a short review, using combinations of tests to provide a document with an overview of accessibility to the site for users with various disabilities. What we need is for people who are willing to donate a few hours of their time to sign up as reviewers, which you can do at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin/volunteer.php. In addition, we ask that everyone help spread the word about this project to help us get companies interested in an accessibility review to sign up and to donate to The John Slatin Fund. If you have a blog, please blog this project. A short description: --- The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project matches accessibility experts with companies that would like a brief review of their site for accessibility. In return, the site owner is asked to contribute a minimum of $500 to The John Slatin Fund. The John Slatin Fund was established to help John's beloved Anna offset the medical expenses incurred during John's long illness. The goal of this project is to raise $25,000 for that purpose. Learn about the project and sign up at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin --- This is a project developed and managed by friends of John. All proceeds go directly to John's family. Please join us in honoring John and helping his family. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:43:36 -0700 From: "Gaeir Dietrich" Subject: [Athen] Job Announcement To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <007701c8950a$9bbf3470$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" ALTERNATE MEDIA-HIGH TECH CENTER ACCESS SPECIALIST DSPS DEPARTMENT FULL TIME CONTRACT, TENURE TRACK (10 MONTHS) The Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District is accepting letters of application for this academic position located at Cuyamaca College. While the current vacancy exists at Cuyamaca College, applicants should understand that they are subject to assignment to any District facility. MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS: APPLICANTS MUST MEET ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA: ???Master?s in the category of disability, special education, education, psychology, educational psychology, or rehabilitation counseling; AND fifteen semester units of upper division or graduate study in the area of disability, to include but not be limited to: learning disabilities, developmental disabilities, deaf and hearing impaired; physical disabilities; or adapted computer technology; OR ???A current California Community College Credential that permits full time service as an Alternate Media-High Tech Center Access Specialist; OR ???The equivalent. If you are applying based on ?the equivalent?, you will need to complete an Equivalency Determination Form, located at http://www.gcccd.edu/hr/Misc.PDF/EQUIVFRM.Full.Time.pdf. This form must be submitted as part of the application procedures. NECESSARY QUALIFICATIONS: 1. Demonstrated experience and ability to interpret articulate and implement variety of regulations, policies and procedures concerning community college. Disabled Student Program and Services (DSP&S). (i.e. American Disability Act Section 508; Family Education Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA); California Community college Title 5 Regulations; California Education Code). 2. Knowledge of Disabled Students Program and Services and its role and significance in higher education. 3. Demonstrated experience and ability in the application and use of access alternate media and adaptive technology. 4. Experience and ability to assist students with disabilities in the area of e-text, text on tape, closed captioning, Braille, and adaptive hardware and software packages. 5. Knowledge of access strategies for various types of electronic information, including distance education, web pages, and general computer technology. 6. Demonstrated ability to develop effective curriculum utilizing access technology. 7. Ability to develop and deliver presentations to professional committees and personnel. 8. Current knowledge of educational trends in the use and application of access technology. 9. Ability to provide assistance and work collaboratively with faculty in providing assistance and supportive services to students with disabilities. 10. Ability to assess current adaptive technology needs of the campus and assist in developing a campus access technology plan including online venues. 11. Ability to work collaboratively and professionally with colleagues. 12. Interact effectively with students with varying disabilities. 13. Demonstrated knowledge of supervisory techniques, theories, and practices. 14. Demonstrated sensitivity to, and understanding of, the diverse academic, socioeconomic, cultural, disability, and ethnic backgrounds of community college students. OTHER QUALIFICATIONS: Candidates will also be evaluated for qualifications in the following: 1. Knowledge and experience working with various disability groups. 2. Ability to liaison with other service agencies such as Department of Rehabilitation, The Blind Center, The Access Center, San Diego Regional Center, and Recordings for the Blind and Dyslexic. 3. Current and continued membership in professional organizations. 4. Willingness to participate in campus instructional and technology committees. 5. Demonstrated ability to communicate effectively both orally and in writing and professionally represent the college in the community. GENERAL RESPONSIBILITIES: Under administrative leadership of an assigned administrator, it is the responsibility of the contract Alternate Media-High Tech Center Access Specialist to coordinate the technical and professional day-to-day operation of the High Tech Center, oversee the implementation of assistive technology throughout the campus; serves as a liaison between faculty, administration, campus computing facilities, and Disabled Students Programs and Services (DSPS); provide technical assistance and support to faculty and staff in regard to the use of alternate media and assistive computer technology to meet campus accessibility needs; train and direct High Tech Center personnel; encourage program members to maintain a constant standard of excellence and support the visions, missions, and values of the colleges and District. This position may include a combination of day and evening assignments, and is being offered by a college strongly committed to the ?open door? co ncept serving a diverse student population. Faculty members will be expected to perform other duties consistent with their faculty job description as stated in the faculty contract. February 22, 2008 #07-00059 INITIAL SALARY PLACEMENT RANGE: $41,517 - $71,685/Yr. per negotiated agreement SALARY SCHEDULE RANGE: $41,517 (Class I, Step 1) - $88,292 (Class VII, Step 30)/Yr. per negotiated agreement Initial placement is based upon academic preparation from an accredited college or university and professional experience. A maximum of nine (9) years of professional work experience may be granted upon review and approval. Placement will not be granted for hourly, part-time, practice, or cadet teaching. Candidates are encouraged to visit the District Employment Services Department website for a copy of the salary schedule which includes placement provisions. STARTING DATE: Fall 2008. Pending successful completion of a required pre-placement physical. APPLICATION PROCEDURES: Applicants must submit the following: 1. A letter of application addressing how the applicant specifically meets the qualifications and responsibilities. 2. District Application for Alternate Media-High Tech Center Access Specialist Position and Supplemental Questionnaire (available at website: http://www.gcccd.edu). 3. A current curriculum vitae addressing applicant?s work history, academic and professional involvement, etc. 4. Copies of all college/university transcripts (official or unofficial) verifying degree(s) and/or course work. In order to be considered for this position, all materials must be received in the DISTRICT EMPLOYMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, APRIL 11, 2008 BY 4:30 P.M. Candidates possessing the minimum qualifications are not guaranteed an interview. SEND ALL MATERIALS TO: ALTERNATE MEDIA-HIGH TECH CENTER ACCESS SPECIALIST, #07-00059 GROSSMONT-CUYAMACA COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT DISTRICT EMPLOYMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT 8800 GROSSMONT COLLEGE DRIVE, EL CAJON CA 92020-1799 To ensure consistency and fairness to all candidates, submit only the material requested in the APPLICATION PROCEDURES; any additional information provided along with information requested by the District Employment Services Department for statistical purposes, which indicates candidate?s gender, age, ethnicity, religious preference, etc. will be removed from the applicant?s file prior to the screening process. All submitted materials become district property and cannot be returned. If you want copies of your documents, be sure to make copies before submitting to Employment Services. The mission of the Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District is to provide educational leadership through learning opportunities that anticipate, prepare for, and meet the future challenges of a complex democracy and a global society. Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District realizes that staff diversity in the academic environment fosters culture awareness, mutual understanding and respect, harmony and creativity, while providing suitable role models for all students. Cuyamaca College is located in the City of El Cajon, and the County of SAN DIEGO, and is thus close to beaches, mountains, the desert, and a multitude of cultural and recreational attractions. BENEFITS: The Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District provides an excellent comprehensive benefits program including medical, prescription drugs, vision care, dental, life and income protection insurance, and membership in the State Teachers? Retirement System (STRS). Under Federal Law, employers are required to verify that all new employees are eligible for employment in the United States. Prior to appointment to a position, you must present acceptable proof of your identity and authorization to work in the United States. NOTE: As a condition of employment, the selected candidate must complete the district?s fingerprint procedures and provide a processing fee of $32.00 plus a Live Scan fee. Candidates invited for interview who must travel distances greater than 250 miles (one-way) outside San Diego County will be reimbursed up to $200 for travel or airfare only. Applicants who are protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act due to a disability and who require accommodations for completing the application process or interviewing, please notify the District Employment Services Department. Phone (619) 644-7644, Telecommunications Device for the Deaf (TDD) (619) 644-7900. Visit our website at http://www.gcccd.edu District Employment Services 8800 Grossmont College Drive El Cajon, CA 92020-1799 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:46:00 -0700 From: "Ed. Rosenthal" Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software from Premier Literacy To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <01c701c8950a$f227b800$d6772800$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We have worked with the good people from Premier Programming (then Premier Assistive Technology, then Premier Literacy) since they first entered the marketplace with their products. I find that they are very friendly company that is easy to do business with. They have been very generous with their "grant" program, and I believe that you will be able to get not for resale (NFR) copies of most of their software so that you can both evaluate the technology and let students who are interested test drive their products. They tend to work closely with advancements in operating systems to take advantage of what Microsoft provides to keep the costs of their products down. They were one of the first companies to put their assistive technologies on a flash drive for portability, which makes a lot of sense for most campus situations. They call their product Key to Access, and we have worked successfully with this with a number of students. I saw that someone else had posted some positive comments about a few of their products, and while I find that sometimes their products may not be as feature rich or as elegant as some of the competitive products they certainly have attractive price points, and they will stand behind any product should you have difficulties. A good example of this is their Scan and Read Pro software which I do not believe is as full featured as a product like Wynn Wizard or Kurzweil (nor as far-reaching in its capabilities), but at their price point of $149.95 it can often be a very viable solution for user of limited scanning/speaking needs at a very attractive price point. We've also been very satisfied with their Text Cloner Pro. -ed. Edward S. Rosenthal, President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies Inc. 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, WA 98036 Phone: 425-744-1100 extension 15; Fax: 425-778-5547 E-Mail: edward@ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 WWW: http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document was generated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking ver. 9 speech recognition technology with the revolutionary xTag wireless microphone from revolabs. Please disregard any remaining misrecognitions. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:54 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software I am wondering if anyone uses Premier Literacy software (formerly Premier Assistive Technology). Has anyone taken advantage of their grant program? If so, what do you like and what don't you like about the program? Thank you, Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Today's Topics: 1. Re: John Slatin Fund (Ron Stewart) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:55:16 -0400 From: "Ron Stewart" Subject: Re: [Athen] John Slatin Fund To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <004601c8959a$bd4c1000$37e43000$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Saroj is this something you are willing to take the lead on? Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Saroj Primlani Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:31 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] John Slatin Fund I remember those times too and have missed his presence at AHG over the last few years. While each one can make a personal commitment if they want, how about making this an ATHEN project, leveraging the range of abilities and time commitments of the membership allowing more to participate. I wonder how we could work out the logistics Saroj _________________________________ Saroj Primlani Coordinator of University IT Accessibility Office of Information Technology 919 513 4087 http://ncsu.edu/it/access -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:15 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 27, Issue 3 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [ATHEN] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project (Ron Stewart) 2. Another job announcement (Gaeir Dietrich) 3. Re: Screen readers/other software (Bridget McNamee) (McNamee, Bridget) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:04:53 -0400 From: "Ron Stewart" Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <004201c8950d$95cf8da0$c16ea8e0$@org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What a wonderful Idea! John was a creat inspiration and friend to many in the field and I for one was sorrowed by his passing. Many a fine evening was spent in the Broker Inn at AHG with John, glass of Merlot in hand, conversing on the meaning of live in the access world. I would strongly encourage the ATHEN membership to participate as life lets you. Perhaps the ATHEN student scholarship should be named to commemorate John's work as well? Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:40 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'; 'Alternate Media' Subject: [Athen] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project As many of you know, John Slatin passed away last week, and in celebration of how his life has touched so many of us in the accessibility arena a project is being launched that will both honor his memory and assist his family with significant expenses that remain from his long illness. There is a new project designed to help. The basic idea is this. 1) We get accessibility experts to volunteer a few hours of time to perform a brief accessibility review of a company or organization web site. 2) We get companies to sign up. They will contribute a minimum of US$500 to "The John Slatin Fund". 3) The expert and the company are paired and the review takes place, spreading the word on accessibility. This review will not be comprehensive but serve to provide an organization with enough information so that they can understand what the strengths and weaknesses of their site are and what course of action is recommended. Some site owners may need a more rigorous audit in order to completely understand all accessibility issues, but such an audit is out of the scope of a review that takes 3-4 hours. This is intended as an introduction to accessibility for the site owner who is interested in learning about this important topic. Accessibility experts will need to conduct a short review, using combinations of tests to provide a document with an overview of accessibility to the site for users with various disabilities. What we need is for people who are willing to donate a few hours of their time to sign up as reviewers, which you can do at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin/volunteer.php. In addition, we ask that everyone help spread the word about this project to help us get companies interested in an accessibility review to sign up and to donate to The John Slatin Fund. If you have a blog, please blog this project. A short description: --- The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project matches accessibility experts with companies that would like a brief review of their site for accessibility. In return, the site owner is asked to contribute a minimum of $500 to The John Slatin Fund. The John Slatin Fund was established to help John's beloved Anna offset the medical expenses incurred during John's long illness. The goal of this project is to raise $25,000 for that purpose. Learn about the project and sign up at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin --- This is a project developed and managed by friends of John. All proceeds go directly to John's family. Please join us in honoring John and helping his family. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:12:04 -0700 From: "Gaeir Dietrich" Subject: [Athen] Another job announcement To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <010f01c8950e$95ecbd20$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" http://www.collegeofthedesert.edu/uploadedFiles/FTtenureTRACK%20DSPS%20Adapt ive%20Comp%20Spec-Inst%20Fall08.pdf Please use the above link for additional information about the DSPS High Tech Center Adaptive Computer Specialist/Instructor position. Please feel free to share the information on other list serves. Thank you. Michael J. O'Neill College of the Desert Coordinator of Disabled Students Programs & Services Professor - Special Education Specialist moneill@collegeofthedesert.edu (760) 773-2535 TDD: (760) 773-2598 Fax: (760) 862-1329 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080402/6367e6 e4/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:14:16 -0400 From: "McNamee, Bridget" Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software (Bridget McNamee) To: Message-ID: <823FE16A6E5CEC4C8E0CE54670D07C9B02835B5B@EVS2.wit.private> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We have just purchased some of their Premier To Go USB's. I have been using a trial version for a while and it's been great. It has 10 software programs on one flash drive and comes with great customer service. Bridget Bridget McNamee Disability Outreach Specialist Wentworth Institute of Technology 550 Huntington Avenue Boston, MA 02115-4998 (617) 989-4544 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:46 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Screen readers/other software (Carol Raymundo) 2. Re: Screen readers/other software (Kelmer, Susan M.) 3. Call for Proposals: Mellon Award for Technology Collaboration Awards 2008 (Jon Gunderson) 4. The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project (John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program) 5. Job Announcement (Gaeir Dietrich) 6. Re: Screen readers/other software from Premier Literacy (Ed. Rosenthal) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:53:38 -0700 From: "Carol Raymundo" Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software To: Message-ID: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am wondering if anyone uses Premier Literacy software (formerly Premier Assistive Technology). Has anyone taken advantage of their grant program? If so, what do you like and what don't you like about the program? Thank you, Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080402/c6 60ff93/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:30:03 -0500 From: "Kelmer, Susan M." Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We use their Text-to-Audio almost exclusively for producing mp3's of text. We also have the talking word processor deployed widely on our campus and students like it very much. Its word predictor is really good. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL Technology and Educational Support Services/ Campus Technology Support Services St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080402/31 f3e431/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:07:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Jon Gunderson Subject: [Athen] Call for Proposals: Mellon Award for Technology Collaboration Awards 2008 To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: <20080402160734.BED27921@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The Mellon Foundation is supporting open source software projects, receive either $50K or $100K for your open source project. More details at their website. They have supported a number of disability related projects, including the Firefox Accessibility Extension. http://matc.mellon.org/ Applications due April 14th, 2008. Jon Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility Disability Resources and Educational Services Rehabilitation Education Center Room 86 1207 S. Oak Street Champaign, Illinois 61821 Voice: (217) 244-5870 WWW: http://www.cita.uiuc.edu/ WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:39:39 -0700 From: "John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program" Subject: [Athen] The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" , "'Alternate Media'" Message-ID: <004601c8950a$0e755040$f03142ab@stanford.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As many of you know, John Slatin passed away last week, and in celebration of how his life has touched so many of us in the accessibility arena a project is being launched that will both honor his memory and assist his family with significant expenses that remain from his long illness. There is a new project designed to help. The basic idea is this. 1) We get accessibility experts to volunteer a few hours of time to perform a brief accessibility review of a company or organization web site. 2) We get companies to sign up. They will contribute a minimum of US$500 to "The John Slatin Fund". 3) The expert and the company are paired and the review takes place, spreading the word on accessibility. This review will not be comprehensive but serve to provide an organization with enough information so that they can understand what the strengths and weaknesses of their site are and what course of action is recommended. Some site owners may need a more rigorous audit in order to completely understand all accessibility issues, but such an audit is out of the scope of a review that takes 3-4 hours. This is intended as an introduction to accessibility for the site owner who is interested in learning about this important topic. Accessibility experts will need to conduct a short review, using combinations of tests to provide a document with an overview of accessibility to the site for users with various disabilities. What we need is for people who are willing to donate a few hours of their time to sign up as reviewers, which you can do at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin/volunteer.php. In addition, we ask that everyone help spread the word about this project to help us get companies interested in an accessibility review to sign up and to donate to The John Slatin Fund. If you have a blog, please blog this project. A short description: --- The John Slatin Fund Accessibility Project matches accessibility experts with companies that would like a brief review of their site for accessibility. In return, the site owner is asked to contribute a minimum of $500 to The John Slatin Fund. The John Slatin Fund was established to help John's beloved Anna offset the medical expenses incurred during John's long illness. The goal of this project is to raise $25,000 for that purpose. Learn about the project and sign up at http://www.knowbility.org/business/john-slatin --- This is a project developed and managed by friends of John. All proceeds go directly to John's family. Please join us in honoring John and helping his family. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:43:36 -0700 From: "Gaeir Dietrich" Subject: [Athen] Job Announcement To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <007701c8950a$9bbf3470$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" ALTERNATE MEDIA-HIGH TECH CENTER ACCESS SPECIALIST DSPS DEPARTMENT FULL TIME CONTRACT, TENURE TRACK (10 MONTHS) The Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District is accepting letters of application for this academic position located at Cuyamaca College. While the current vacancy exists at Cuyamaca College, applicants should understand that they are subject to assignment to any District facility. MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS: APPLICANTS MUST MEET ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA: ???Master?s in the category of disability, special education, education, psychology, educational psychology, or rehabilitation counseling; AND fifteen semester units of upper division or graduate study in the area of disability, to include but not be limited to: learning disabilities, developmental disabilities, deaf and hearing impaired; physical disabilities; or adapted computer technology; OR ???A current California Community College Credential that permits full time service as an Alternate Media-High Tech Center Access Specialist; OR ???The equivalent. If you are applying based on ?the equivalent?, you will need to complete an Equivalency Determination Form, located at http://www.gcccd.edu/hr/Misc.PDF/EQUIVFRM.Full.Time.pdf. This form must be submitted as part of the application procedures. NECESSARY QUALIFICATIONS: 1. Demonstrated experience and ability to interpret articulate and implement variety of regulations, policies and procedures concerning community college. Disabled Student Program and Services (DSP&S). (i.e. American Disability Act Section 508; Family Education Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA); California Community college Title 5 Regulations; California Education Code). 2. Knowledge of Disabled Students Program and Services and its role and significance in higher education. 3. Demonstrated experience and ability in the application and use of access alternate media and adaptive technology. 4. Experience and ability to assist students with disabilities in the area of e-text, text on tape, closed captioning, Braille, and adaptive hardware and software packages. 5. Knowledge of access strategies for various types of electronic information, including distance education, web pages, and general computer technology. 6. Demonstrated ability to develop effective curriculum utilizing access technology. 7. Ability to develop and deliver presentations to professional committees and personnel. 8. Current knowledge of educational trends in the use and application of access technology. 9. Ability to provide assistance and work collaboratively with faculty in providing assistance and supportive services to students with disabilities. 10. Ability to assess current adaptive technology needs of the campus and assist in developing a campus access technology plan including online venues. 11. Ability to work collaboratively and professionally with colleagues. 12. Interact effectively with students with varying disabilities. 13. Demonstrated knowledge of supervisory techniques, theories, and practices. 14. Demonstrated sensitivity to, and understanding of, the diverse academic, socioeconomic, cultural, disability, and ethnic backgrounds of community college students. OTHER QUALIFICATIONS: Candidates will also be evaluated for qualifications in the following: 1. Knowledge and experience working with various disability groups. 2. Ability to liaison with other service agencies such as Department of Rehabilitation, The Blind Center, The Access Center, San Diego Regional Center, and Recordings for the Blind and Dyslexic. 3. Current and continued membership in professional organizations. 4. Willingness to participate in campus instructional and technology committees. 5. Demonstrated ability to communicate effectively both orally and in writing and professionally represent the college in the community. GENERAL RESPONSIBILITIES: Under administrative leadership of an assigned administrator, it is the responsibility of the contract Alternate Media-High Tech Center Access Specialist to coordinate the technical and professional day-to-day operation of the High Tech Center, oversee the implementation of assistive technology throughout the campus; serves as a liaison between faculty, administration, campus computing facilities, and Disabled Students Programs and Services (DSPS); provide technical assistance and support to faculty and staff in regard to the use of alternate media and assistive computer technology to meet campus accessibility needs; train and direct High Tech Center personnel; encourage program members to maintain a constant standard of excellence and support the visions, missions, and values of the colleges and District. This position may include a combination of day and evening assignments, and is being offered by a college strongly committed to the ?open door? co ncept serving a diverse student population. Faculty members will be expected to perform other duties consistent with their faculty job description as stated in the faculty contract. February 22, 2008 #07-00059 INITIAL SALARY PLACEMENT RANGE: $41,517 - $71,685/Yr. per negotiated agreement SALARY SCHEDULE RANGE: $41,517 (Class I, Step 1) - $88,292 (Class VII, Step 30)/Yr. per negotiated agreement Initial placement is based upon academic preparation from an accredited college or university and professional experience. A maximum of nine (9) years of professional work experience may be granted upon review and approval. Placement will not be granted for hourly, part-time, practice, or cadet teaching. Candidates are encouraged to visit the District Employment Services Department website for a copy of the salary schedule which includes placement provisions. STARTING DATE: Fall 2008. Pending successful completion of a required pre-placement physical. APPLICATION PROCEDURES: Applicants must submit the following: 1. A letter of application addressing how the applicant specifically meets the qualifications and responsibilities. 2. District Application for Alternate Media-High Tech Center Access Specialist Position and Supplemental Questionnaire (available at website: http://www.gcccd.edu). 3. A current curriculum vitae addressing applicant?s work history, academic and professional involvement, etc. 4. Copies of all college/university transcripts (official or unofficial) verifying degree(s) and/or course work. In order to be considered for this position, all materials must be received in the DISTRICT EMPLOYMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, APRIL 11, 2008 BY 4:30 P.M. Candidates possessing the minimum qualifications are not guaranteed an interview. SEND ALL MATERIALS TO: ALTERNATE MEDIA-HIGH TECH CENTER ACCESS SPECIALIST, #07-00059 GROSSMONT-CUYAMACA COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT DISTRICT EMPLOYMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT 8800 GROSSMONT COLLEGE DRIVE, EL CAJON CA 92020-1799 To ensure consistency and fairness to all candidates, submit only the material requested in the APPLICATION PROCEDURES; any additional information provided along with information requested by the District Employment Services Department for statistical purposes, which indicates candidate?s gender, age, ethnicity, religious preference, etc. will be removed from the applicant?s file prior to the screening process. All submitted materials become district property and cannot be returned. If you want copies of your documents, be sure to make copies before submitting to Employment Services. The mission of the Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District is to provide educational leadership through learning opportunities that anticipate, prepare for, and meet the future challenges of a complex democracy and a global society. Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District realizes that staff diversity in the academic environment fosters culture awareness, mutual understanding and respect, harmony and creativity, while providing suitable role models for all students. Cuyamaca College is located in the City of El Cajon, and the County of SAN DIEGO, and is thus close to beaches, mountains, the desert, and a multitude of cultural and recreational attractions. BENEFITS: The Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District provides an excellent comprehensive benefits program including medical, prescription drugs, vision care, dental, life and income protection insurance, and membership in the State Teachers? Retirement System (STRS). Under Federal Law, employers are required to verify that all new employees are eligible for employment in the United States. Prior to appointment to a position, you must present acceptable proof of your identity and authorization to work in the United States. NOTE: As a condition of employment, the selected candidate must complete the district?s fingerprint procedures and provide a processing fee of $32.00 plus a Live Scan fee. Candidates invited for interview who must travel distances greater than 250 miles (one-way) outside San Diego County will be reimbursed up to $200 for travel or airfare only. Applicants who are protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act due to a disability and who require accommodations for completing the application process or interviewing, please notify the District Employment Services Department. Phone (619) 644-7644, Telecommunications Device for the Deaf (TDD) (619) 644-7900. Visit our website at http://www.gcccd.edu District Employment Services 8800 Grossmont College Drive El Cajon, CA 92020-1799 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:46:00 -0700 From: "Ed. Rosenthal" Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software from Premier Literacy To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <01c701c8950a$f227b800$d6772800$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We have worked with the good people from Premier Programming (then Premier Assistive Technology, then Premier Literacy) since they first entered the marketplace with their products. I find that they are very friendly company that is easy to do business with. They have been very generous with their "grant" program, and I believe that you will be able to get not for resale (NFR) copies of most of their software so that you can both evaluate the technology and let students who are interested test drive their products. They tend to work closely with advancements in operating systems to take advantage of what Microsoft provides to keep the costs of their products down. They were one of the first companies to put their assistive technologies on a flash drive for portability, which makes a lot of sense for most campus situations. They call their product Key to Access, and we have worked successfully with this with a number of students. I saw that someone else had posted some positive comments about a few of their products, and while I find that sometimes their products may not be as feature rich or as elegant as some of the competitive products they certainly have attractive price points, and they will stand behind any product should you have difficulties. A good example of this is their Scan and Read Pro software which I do not believe is as full featured as a product like Wynn Wizard or Kurzweil (nor as far-reaching in its capabilities), but at their price point of $149.95 it can often be a very viable solution for user of limited scanning/speaking needs at a very attractive price point. We've also been very satisfied with their Text Cloner Pro. -ed. Edward S. Rosenthal, President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies Inc. 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, WA 98036 Phone: 425-744-1100 extension 15; Fax: 425-778-5547 E-Mail: edward@ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 WWW: http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document was generated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking ver. 9 speech recognition technology with the revolutionary xTag wireless microphone from revolabs. Please disregard any remaining misrecognitions. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:54 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software I am wondering if anyone uses Premier Literacy software (formerly Premier Assistive Technology). Has anyone taken advantage of their grant program? If so, what do you like and what don't you like about the program? Thank you, Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As far as I've been able to find, there's no equivalent to the "Read that" command in Dragon Naturally Speaking. The only strategy I've come up with is to launch Narrator and try to get it to read selected text in the word processing application, but this is a complicated and clunky process involving many voice commands. Thanks for any tips, Terry Terry Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 From edward at ngtvoice.com Thu Apr 3 13:18:48 2008 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dictation playback with Vista speech recognition In-Reply-To: <200804031716.m33HG0B7025466@smtp.washington.edu> References: <200804031716.m33HG0B7025466@smtp.washington.edu> Message-ID: <013401c895c7$efd03790$cf70a6b0$@com> Terry-I do not believe that we have a playback utility available when using the Vista SR. I've reviewed all of the training materials that we have put together, including all of the commands made available by Microsoft to this point and I don't see anything referencing playback capabilities. They are in the process of making a new macro utility available that might hold some promise for writing a snippet of code that would allow for playback -ed. -ed. Edward S. Rosenthal, President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies Inc. 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, WA 98036 Phone: 425-744-1100 extension 15; Fax: 425-778-5547 E-Mail: edward@ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 WWW: http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document may have been generated using speech recognition technology with the revolutionary xTag wireless microphone from revolabs. Please disregard any remaining misrecognitions. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:16 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Dictation playback with Vista speech recognition Does anyone have recommendations for how to gracefully ask Vista Speech Recognition to read text back after dictating? As far as I've been able to find, there's no equivalent to the "Read that" command in Dragon Naturally Speaking. The only strategy I've come up with is to launch Narrator and try to get it to read selected text in the word processing application, but this is a complicated and clunky process involving many voice commands. Thanks for any tips, Terry Terry Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From dmurphy at collegeofthedesert.edu Thu Apr 3 13:24:31 2008 From: dmurphy at collegeofthedesert.edu (Daryl Murphy) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dictation playback with Vista speech recognition In-Reply-To: <013401c895c7$efd03790$cf70a6b0$@com> References: <200804031716.m33HG0B7025466@smtp.washington.edu> <013401c895c7$efd03790$cf70a6b0$@com> Message-ID: <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DCBCD2CB@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> You can load Narrator from "Ease of Access" under "accessories" for play back. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ed. Rosenthal Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 01:19 To: tft@u.washington.edu; 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Dictation playback with Vista speech recognition Terry-I do not believe that we have a playback utility available when using the Vista SR. I've reviewed all of the training materials that we have put together, including all of the commands made available by Microsoft to this point and I don't see anything referencing playback capabilities. They are in the process of making a new macro utility available that might hold some promise for writing a snippet of code that would allow for playback -ed. -ed. Edward S. Rosenthal, President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies Inc. 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, WA 98036 Phone: 425-744-1100 extension 15; Fax: 425-778-5547 E-Mail: edward@ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 WWW: http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document may have been generated using speech recognition technology with the revolutionary xTag wireless microphone from revolabs. Please disregard any remaining misrecognitions. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:16 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Dictation playback with Vista speech recognition Does anyone have recommendations for how to gracefully ask Vista Speech Recognition to read text back after dictating? As far as I've been able to find, there's no equivalent to the "Read that" command in Dragon Naturally Speaking. The only strategy I've come up with is to launch Narrator and try to get it to read selected text in the word processing application, but this is a complicated and clunky process involving many voice commands. Thanks for any tips, Terry Terry Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jfoliot at stanford.edu Fri Apr 4 12:48:25 2008 From: jfoliot at stanford.edu (John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] All you need to know about web design... Message-ID: <006801c8968c$d92d6d80$ce3142ab@stanford.edu> Hi everyone - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0qMe7Z3EYg Happy Friday! =================================== John Foliot Academic Technology Consultant Stanford Online Accessibility Program http://soap.stanford.edu Stanford University Tel: 650-862-4603 =================================== From ron at ahead.org Fri Apr 4 12:57:32 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: All you need to know about web design... Message-ID: <013301c8968e$1f0e9170$5d2bb450$@org> For the truly geeky a Friday funny thanks to John http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0qMe7Z3EYg Happy Friday! =================================== John Foliot Academic Technology Consultant Stanford Online Accessibility Program http://soap.stanford.edu Stanford University Tel: 650-862-4603 =================================== From dann at digilifemedia.biz Fri Apr 4 18:15:13 2008 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Daniel J. Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: All you need to know about web design... In-Reply-To: <013301c8968e$1f0e9170$5d2bb450$@org> Message-ID: <3221303.91207358113525.JavaMail.root@mail.digilifemedia.biz> Truly Brilliant -- is that Ron's Brother? --------------- Daniel Berkowitz, CEO DigiLife Media, LLC 1 Bryant Avenue Bradford, MA 01835-7424 phone: 617-512-4315 mobile: 978-914-4601 e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz web: www.digilifemedia.biz ----- "Ron Stewart" wrote: > For the truly geeky a Friday funny thanks to John > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0qMe7Z3EYg > > Happy Friday! > > =================================== > John Foliot > Academic Technology Consultant > Stanford Online Accessibility Program > http://soap.stanford.edu > Stanford University > Tel: 650-862-4603 > =================================== > From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Sat Apr 5 08:33:49 2008 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: All you need to know about web design... In-Reply-To: <3221303.91207358113525.JavaMail.root@mail.digilifemedia.biz> References: <013301c8968e$1f0e9170$5d2bb450$@org> <3221303.91207358113525.JavaMail.root@mail.digilifemedia.biz> Message-ID: <002101c89732$748ee560$5dacb020$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> No he looks more like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8avOiTUcD4Y Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Berkowitz Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:15 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Cc: adam Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: All you need to know about web design... Truly Brilliant -- is that Ron's Brother? --------------- Daniel Berkowitz, CEO DigiLife Media, LLC 1 Bryant Avenue Bradford, MA 01835-7424 phone: 617-512-4315 mobile: 978-914-4601 e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz web: www.digilifemedia.biz ----- "Ron Stewart" wrote: > For the truly geeky a Friday funny thanks to John > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0qMe7Z3EYg > > Happy Friday! > > =================================== > John Foliot > Academic Technology Consultant > Stanford Online Accessibility Program > http://soap.stanford.edu > Stanford University > Tel: 650-862-4603 > =================================== > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From norm.coombs at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 22:37:12 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] Office 2007 and XP Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080406223341.02091eb0@pop.gmail.com> I understand that Office 2007 running on Vista has a very very different appearance than Office 2003 in XP. Has anyone compared Office 2007 and its appearance running on Vista with the same Office 2007 running on XP???????? I want to learn Office 2007 so I can talk intelligently about it but I am not yet ready to put Vista on my computer. If Office 2007 on XP acts like Office 2003, I'd waste my money getting it. But if it functions more like it does on Vista then I'll get it and familiarize myself with its new appearance and behavior. Norm EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 From pratikp1 at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 00:02:45 2008 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] Office 2007 and XP In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20080406223341.02091eb0@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20080406223341.02091eb0@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c8987d$62f9ef60$28edce20$@com> Norm, The interface for Office 2007 under XP and Vista is the same for a screen reader user. There is no significant difference. It may look different under VISTA to our sighted colleagues. Pratik -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 1:37 AM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Office 2007 and XP I understand that Office 2007 running on Vista has a very very different appearance than Office 2003 in XP. Has anyone compared Office 2007 and its appearance running on Vista with the same Office 2007 running on XP???????? I want to learn Office 2007 so I can talk intelligently about it but I am not yet ready to put Vista on my computer. If Office 2007 on XP acts like Office 2003, I'd waste my money getting it. But if it functions more like it does on Vista then I'll get it and familiarize myself with its new appearance and behavior. Norm EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Mon Apr 7 05:44:05 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] Office 2007 and XP References: <6.0.3.0.2.20080406223341.02091eb0@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm running Office 2007 on both a Vista machine and a Windows XP machine. There is no visual or fundamental difference between the two. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL Technology and Educational Support Services/ Campus Technology Support Services St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 From pratikp1 at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 06:34:29 2008 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: New England ADA Center Releases New Videos Message-ID: <004601c898b4$1d2f8d50$578ea7f0$@com> From: mailman-bounces@seymour.textdrive.com [mailto:mailman-bounces@seymour.textdrive.com] On Behalf Of Oce Harrison Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:31 AM To: sds-discuss@lists.disstudies.org; sds-discuss-bounces@lists.disstudies.org Cc: sds-discuss-owner@lists.disstudies.org Subject: FW: New England ADA Center Releases New Videos Hi There, Can you send this message out on my behalf? Thanks ! Oce Dear Colleagues, We are excited to announce that New England ADA Center and No Limits Media release fresh and informative videos this spring. In the videos, students with disabilities share strategies to successfully stay in school, graduate and get jobs. Students reveal their struggles with self-reporting their disability, and negotiating accommodations in school and at work. These videos can be used as part of trainings (each video is 7-9 minutes) and shared with students and other professionals. Click on the postcard below or visit www.NewEnglandADA.org to view videos. DVD's are also available upon request at ADAinfo@NewEnglandADA.org Please share this message with folks in your network. Enjoy! Oce Graphic of Promotional Postcard Above is the graphic of our promotional postcard. 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URL: From marks at mso.umt.edu Mon Apr 7 15:17:07 2008 From: marks at mso.umt.edu (Marks, Jim) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software In-Reply-To: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> References: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> Message-ID: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB005A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Hi Carol, Every time I say this, it seems to cause troubles. But, here goes anyhow. Premier is fine, but it will not replace better assistive technology. In my opinion, Premier should serve as a supplement, never the only option a campus uses to comply with civil rights laws. Premier does some things well, but it does less than what more expensive assistive technologies can do. Function has to be a primary concern, and colleges should find the money it takes to provide the best access. I think of Premier as a low-cost alternative in which one gets what one pays for. I also think the Premier grant thing is a marketing scheme, not really a grant. People with disabilities should have the tools it takes to participate fully in higher education. It's wrong to barter away equal access just to save a buck. On the other hand, if the less costly alternative works, then go for it. Some make the argument that many don't need all the bells and whistles, and there is merit to that argument. Premier will not work as well as the more expensive options, though, and making sure our post-secondary programs are accessible is sort of the whole point. We need tools that work well. Reliance on Premier alone just won't do the trick. Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software I am wondering if anyone uses Premier Literacy software (formerly Premier Assistive Technology). Has anyone taken advantage of their grant program? If so, what do you like and what don't you like about the program? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmurphy at collegeofthedesert.edu Mon Apr 7 15:28:57 2008 From: dmurphy at collegeofthedesert.edu (Daryl Murphy) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software In-Reply-To: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB005A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> References: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB005A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DCBCD39E@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> I agree. The premier grant last for 1 year and then sends out an invoice for $40,000 to keep the suite as a site license, otherwise you are running an un-authorize version which according to Premier's ULA as pirated software. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Marks, Jim Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 03:17 To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software Hi Carol, Every time I say this, it seems to cause troubles. But, here goes anyhow. Premier is fine, but it will not replace better assistive technology. In my opinion, Premier should serve as a supplement, never the only option a campus uses to comply with civil rights laws. Premier does some things well, but it does less than what more expensive assistive technologies can do. Function has to be a primary concern, and colleges should find the money it takes to provide the best access. I think of Premier as a low-cost alternative in which one gets what one pays for. I also think the Premier grant thing is a marketing scheme, not really a grant. People with disabilities should have the tools it takes to participate fully in higher education. It's wrong to barter away equal access just to save a buck. On the other hand, if the less costly alternative works, then go for it. Some make the argument that many don't need all the bells and whistles, and there is merit to that argument. Premier will not work as well as the more expensive options, though, and making sure our post-secondary programs are accessible is sort of the whole point. We need tools that work well. Reliance on Premier alone just won't do the trick. Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software I am wondering if anyone uses Premier Literacy software (formerly Premier Assistive Technology). Has anyone taken advantage of their grant program? If so, what do you like and what don't you like about the program? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From FosterS at sou.edu Mon Apr 7 15:54:47 2008 From: FosterS at sou.edu (Shawn Foster) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software In-Reply-To: <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DCBCD39E@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> References: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB005A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DCBCD39E@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> Message-ID: <47FA43C7.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> $40,000? Wow, you must have WAY more computers on campus than we do.... Ours is $2,000 for approximately 2100 computers campus-wide, and the grant specifically stated that we could keep the software without the SMA, we just wouldn't be eligible for upgrades and tech support. Premier has been very helpful for a number of our LD students, as well as students whose first language is not English, students who prefer dual-sensory input. Many non-disabled students are beginning to use it as another tool in the learning arsenal. We have faculty who use the software, as well. That being said, I absolutely agree with Jim that Premier is NOT adequate on its own for AT purposes. (I'd never recommend Universal Reader in place of JAWS, for example. Yikes!) We have a number of other applications in place that are more hefty supports for those who need them. Premier is just ONE of the options that we provide for students in the quest for universal access. Happy Monday, all! Shawn Foster Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Services for Students Southern Oregon University V/TTY: (541)552-6213 >>> On 4/7/2008 at 3:28 PM, in message <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DCBCD39E@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us>, "Daryl Murphy" wrote: I agree. The premier grant last for 1 year and then sends out an invoice for $40,000 to keep the suite as a site license, otherwise you are running an un-authorize version which according to Premier?s ULA as pirated software. From:athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Marks, Jim Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 03:17 To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software Hi Carol, Every time I say this, it seems to cause troubles. But, here goes anyhow. Premier is fine, but it will not replace better assistive technology. In my opinion, Premier should serve as a supplement, never the only option a campus uses to comply with civil rights laws. Premier does some things well, but it does less than what more expensive assistive technologies can do. Function has to be a primary concern, and colleges should find the money it takes to provide the best access. I think of Premier as a low-cost alternative in which one gets what one pays for. I also think the Premier grant thing is a marketing scheme, not really a grant. People with disabilities should have the tools it takes to participate fully in higher education. It's wrong to barter away equal access just to save a buck. On the other hand, if the less costly alternative works, then go for it. Some make the argument that many don't need all the bells and whistles, and there is merit to that argument. Premier will not work as well as the more expensive options, though, and making sure our post-secondary programs are accessible is sort of the whole point. We need tools that work well. Reliance on Premier alone just won't do the trick. Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ From:athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software I am wondering if anyone uses Premier Literacy software (formerly Premier Assistive Technology). Has anyone taken advantage of their grant program? If so, what do you like and what don't you like about the program? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Mon Apr 7 16:06:46 2008 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Screen readers/other software In-Reply-To: <47FA43C7.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> References: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB005A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DCBCD39E@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us> <47FA43C7.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> Message-ID: <020001c89904$0e90f900$2bb2eb00$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Evening all, I have not looked into it for a while but the cost of Premiers grant after the first year used to be proportional to the total student population of your institution. In a recent review of their website, it appears they may have changed that pricing structure. Not sure and it does behoove some investigation if you are looking at this type of solution for your campus but let the buyer beware. I am going to probably get in more trouble that Jim here, but there is a variety of inexpensive AT products that have surfaced in the last couple of years and my basic rule of thumb is that most of them are fine for a student to buy for themselves or not buy as the case may be. I would not want to be working for an institution that based their entire AT strategy on what is cheap and easy to get, in particular if I was the one that made such a professionally untenable decision. There are some schools that have done this and they decided to settle the cases out of court at much more than it would have cost to buy the good stuff the first time around. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Shawn Foster Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 6:55 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software $40,000? Wow, you must have WAY more computers on campus than we do.... Ours is $2,000 for approximately 2100 computers campus-wide, and the grant specifically stated that we could keep the software without the SMA, we just wouldn't be eligible for upgrades and tech support. Premier has been very helpful for a number of our LD students, as well as students whose first language is not English, students who prefer dual-sensory input. Many non-disabled students are beginning to use it as another tool in the learning arsenal. We have faculty who use the software, as well. That being said, I absolutely agree with Jim that Premier is NOT adequate on its own for AT purposes. (I'd never recommend Universal Reader in place of JAWS, for example. Yikes!) We have a number of other applications in place that are more hefty supports for those who need them. Premier is just ONE of the options that we provide for students in the quest for universal access. Happy Monday, all! Shawn Foster Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Services for Students Southern Oregon University V/TTY: (541)552-6213 >>> On 4/7/2008 at 3:28 PM, in message <866D94404CE9D049B12203795063D4DCBCD39E@Dccdmail3.dccd.cc.ca.us>, "Daryl Murphy" wrote: I agree. The premier grant last for 1 year and then sends out an invoice for $40,000 to keep the suite as a site license, otherwise you are running an un-authorize version which according to Premier?s ULA as pirated software. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Marks, Jim Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 03:17 To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software Hi Carol, Every time I say this, it seems to cause troubles. But, here goes anyhow. Premier is fine, but it will not replace better assistive technology. In my opinion, Premier should serve as a supplement, never the only option a campus uses to comply with civil rights laws. Premier does some things well, but it does less than what more expensive assistive technologies can do. Function has to be a primary concern, and colleges should find the money it takes to provide the best access. I think of Premier as a low-cost alternative in which one gets what one pays for. I also think the Premier grant thing is a marketing scheme, not really a grant. People with disabilities should have the tools it takes to participate fully in higher education. It's wrong to barter away equal access just to save a buck. On the other hand, if the less costly alternative works, then go for it. Some make the argument that many don't need all the bells and whistles, and there is merit to that argument. Premier will not work as well as the more expensive options, though, and making sure our post-secondary programs are accessible is sort of the whole point. We need tools that work well. Reliance on Premier alone just won't do the trick. Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software I am wondering if anyone uses Premier Literacy software (formerly Premier Assistive Technology). Has anyone taken advantage of their grant program? If so, what do you like and what don't you like about the program? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at kckcc.edu Tue Apr 8 05:57:24 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software In-Reply-To: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB005A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> References: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB005A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: <47FB2564020000CF00010CF8@mymail.kckcc.edu> Amen! I agree completely. Some of the Premier tools are fine, but many of them lack what my students need. For example, Universal Reader is fine is somebody only needs to read. However, most of my students need more than just a reading tool. They like homophone checking, extra help with spell checking, etc. Therefore, nearly all of my students choose Read&Write over Universal Reader because it performs better. Yes, some of the tools they like are in the Talking Word Processor. But again, my students like to use exactly what the rest of the class is using when at all possible. On this camplus, that means MS Word, not a special program. R&W is non-intrusive, provides the tools they need, and is fairly easy to learn and use, and works with everything they use such as online classes, internet search, web mail, etc. I really like the Text-To-Audio program for production purposes, but my students don't use it themselves. I like the Ultimate Talking Dictionary and some of my students use it in the background when using Word. However, if they're using R&W, they don't need it since all the spelling tools are there. Again, some good products, and some that I personally don't think are too great, but that's just my opinion. However, don't depend on their line of products to be your only solution. They just don't cut it for a school invironment. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Marks, Jim" 4/7/2008 5:17 PM >>> Hi Carol, Every time I say this, it seems to cause troubles. But, here goes anyhow. Premier is fine, but it will not replace better assistive technology. In my opinion, Premier should serve as a supplement, never the only option a campus uses to comply with civil rights laws. Premier does some things well, but it does less than what more expensive assistive technologies can do. Function has to be a primary concern, and colleges should find the money it takes to provide the best access. I think of Premier as a low-cost alternative in which one gets what one pays for. I also think the Premier grant thing is a marketing scheme, not really a grant. People with disabilities should have the tools it takes to participate fully in higher education. It's wrong to barter away equal access just to save a buck. On the other hand, if the less costly alternative works, then go for it. Some make the argument that many don't need all the bells and whistles, and there is merit to that argument. Premier will not work as well as the more expensive options, though, and making sure our post-secondary programs are accessible is sort of the whole point. We need tools that work well. Reliance on Premier alone just won't do the trick. Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software I am wondering if anyone uses Premier Literacy software (formerly Premier Assistive Technology). Has anyone taken advantage of their grant program? If so, what do you like and what don't you like about the program? From rbeach at kckcc.edu Tue Apr 8 06:04:54 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software In-Reply-To: <47FB2564020000CF00010CF8@mymail.kckcc.edu> References: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB005A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> <47FB2564020000CF00010CF8@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <47FB2726020000CF00010CFC@mymail.kckcc.edu> I should also add that I do demonstrate some of the Premier products for my students and let them try them. I even provide them the links to the demos on the web site if they want to download the product at home. I also give them some flyers I have but encourage them to double check the web site for the most current information. For home use for someone who is on a budget, some of the tools may be very sufficient. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Robert Beach" 4/8/2008 7:57 AM >>> Amen! I agree completely. Some of the Premier tools are fine, but many of them lack what my students need. For example, Universal Reader is fine is somebody only needs to read. However, most of my students need more than just a reading tool. They like homophone checking, extra help with spell checking, etc. Therefore, nearly all of my students choose Read&Write over Universal Reader because it performs better. Yes, some of the tools they like are in the Talking Word Processor. But again, my students like to use exactly what the rest of the class is using when at all possible. On this camplus, that means MS Word, not a special program. R&W is non-intrusive, provides the tools they need, and is fairly easy to learn and use, and works with everything they use such as online classes, internet search, web mail, etc. I really like the Text-To-Audio program for production purposes, but my students don't use it themselves. I like the Ultimate Talking Dictionary and some of my students use it in the background when using Word. However, if they're using R&W, they don't need it since all the spelling tools are there. Again, some good products, and some that I personally don't think are too great, but that's just my opinion. However, don't depend on their line of products to be your only solution. They just don't cut it for a school invironment. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Marks, Jim" 4/7/2008 5:17 PM >>> Hi Carol, Every time I say this, it seems to cause troubles. But, here goes anyhow. Premier is fine, but it will not replace better assistive technology. In my opinion, Premier should serve as a supplement, never the only option a campus uses to comply with civil rights laws. Premier does some things well, but it does less than what more expensive assistive technologies can do. Function has to be a primary concern, and colleges should find the money it takes to provide the best access. I think of Premier as a low-cost alternative in which one gets what one pays for. I also think the Premier grant thing is a marketing scheme, not really a grant. People with disabilities should have the tools it takes to participate fully in higher education. It's wrong to barter away equal access just to save a buck. On the other hand, if the less costly alternative works, then go for it. Some make the argument that many don't need all the bells and whistles, and there is merit to that argument. Premier will not work as well as the more expensive options, though, and making sure our post-secondary programs are accessible is sort of the whole point. We need tools that work well. Reliance on Premier alone just won't do the trick. Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software I am wondering if anyone uses Premier Literacy software (formerly Premier Assistive Technology). Has anyone taken advantage of their grant program? If so, what do you like and what don't you like about the program? _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ckinney at gpc.edu Tue Apr 8 06:36:59 2008 From: ckinney at gpc.edu (Christopher Kinney) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software Message-ID: I totally agree. I dislike how Premier has been pushed as the end all be all solution for post-secondary accessibility. The aggressive marketing makes it's difficult to explain the pros and cons of other products when the administrative powers that be are looking for the cheapest way out. I think Premier is fine as solution for people who may not have the means to purchase an expensive AT product. However, I don't think it's the greatest solution in terms of ease of use, compatibility and support in a large enterprise environment. It's always better to have a variety of tools in your AT toolbox and not just one. Christopher Kinney Assistive Technology Coordinator Center for Disability Services Georgia Perimeter College 555 N. Indian Creek Drive Clarkston GA 30021 TEL: 678-891-3385 FAX: 404-298-3830 ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of "Robert Beach" Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:05 AM To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software I should also add that I do demonstrate some of the Premier products for my students and let them try them. I even provide them the links to the demos on the web site if they want to download the product at home. I also give them some flyers I have but encourage them to double check the web site for the most current information. For home use for someone who is on a budget, some of the tools may be very sufficient. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Robert Beach" < rbeach@kckcc.edu> 4/8/2008 7:57 AM >>> Amen! I agree completely. Some of the Premier tools are fine, but many of them lack what my students need. For example, Universal Reader is fine is somebody only needs to read. However, most of my students need more than just a reading tool. They like homophone checking, extra help with spell checking, etc. Therefore, nearly all of my students choose Read&Write over Universal Reader because it performs better. Yes, some of the tools they like are in the Talking Word Processor. But again, my students like to use exactly what the rest of the class is using when at all possible. On this camplus, that means MS Word, not a special program. R&W is non-intrusive, provides the tools they need, and is fairly easy to learn and use, and works with everything they use such as online classes, internet search, web mail, etc. I really like the Text-To-Audio program for production purposes, but my students don't use it themselves. I like the Ultimate Talking Dictionary and some of my students use it in the background when using Word. However, if they're using R&W, they don't need it since all the spelling tools are there. Again, some good products, and some that I personally don't think are too great, but that's just my opinion. However, don't depend on their line of products to be your only solution. They just don't cut it for a school invironment. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Marks, Jim" < marks@mso.umt.edu> 4/7/2008 5:17 PM >>> Hi Carol, Every time I say this, it seems to cause troubles. But, here goes anyhow. Premier is fine, but it will not replace better assistive technology. In my opinion, Premier should serve as a supplement, never the only option a campus uses to comply with civil rights laws. Premier does some things well, but it does less than what more expensive assistive technologies can do. Function has to be a primary concern, and colleges should find the money it takes to provide the best access. I think of Premier as a low-cost alternative in which one gets what one pays for. I also think the Premier grant thing is a marketing scheme, not really a grant. People with disabilities should have the tools it takes to participate fully in higher education. It's wrong to barter away equal access just to save a buck. On the other hand, if the less costly alternative works, then go for it. Some make the argument that many don't need all the bells and whistles, and there is merit to that argument. Premier will not work as well as the more expensive options, though, and making sure our post-secondary programs are accessible is sort of the whole point. We need tools that work well. Reliance on Premier alone just won't do the trick. 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And, are there comparable products to DNS I ought to encourage a student to investigate (products similar in functionality and price)? Please advise. Thank you! Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Tue Apr 8 14:47:34 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon Naturally Speaking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008e01c899c2$2896dd60$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Nope, Dragon is not for the Mac, but check out MacSpeech: http://www.macspeech.com/ ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dave M. Thomas Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:45 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Dragon Naturally Speaking Good afternoon! Is Dragon Naturally Speaking compatible with the Mac? Can it be purchased at outlets such as Office Max? And, are there comparable products to DNS I ought to encourage a student to investigate (products similar in functionality and price)? Please advise. Thank you! Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edward at ngtvoice.com Wed Apr 9 05:24:05 2008 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon Naturally Speaking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00b301c89a3c$a59c7a70$f0d56f50$@com> We have a number of users using DNS (Preferred, Pro, Medical) on Apple PCs with Intel chips running Windows. We've standardized to using boot camp (vs. Parallels). As Gaier pointed out there is a new Mac Speech product out that uses the MREC engine from Nuance (aka Dragon).the first listsrv review I've seen of it praised it's accuracy but indicated the UI leaves something to be desired.-ed. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dave M. Thomas Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:45 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Dragon Naturally Speaking Good afternoon! Is Dragon Naturally Speaking compatible with the Mac? Can it be purchased at outlets such as Office Max? And, are there comparable products to DNS I ought to encourage a student to investigate (products similar in functionality and price)? Please advise. Thank you! Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed Apr 9 05:49:10 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software References: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB005A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: My only concern with your comments, Jim, is that you make the assumption that we are providing either/or, i.e., Premier/others. That's not the case. We provide it all, as do most other campuses. Everyone knows that you get what you pay for, and we also all know that sometimes low-tech and low-cost is effective for a certain process, and not effective for another. Stop assuming we are replacing things like Zoomtext and WYNN and Read and Write with Premier, and you'll stop hearing from me on the subject. My licensing for the Premiere suite is about $1000 per year. That has been relatively cost-effective for us. Of course, it depends on where/how we deploy it, as well. And I wouldn't trade Text-to-Audio for just about anything, at this point. It is the MOST-used Premier product for me and has been for about five years now. I could not get my work done without it. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL Technology and Educational Support Services/ Campus Technology Support Services St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Wed Apr 9 11:43:03 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] APH Book Wizard Producer Message-ID: <005001c89a71$8f868980$ae939c80$@org> Hi all, As anyone used Book Wizard Producer to make human narrated DAISY books? I would be very interested in getting your feedback.. Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From Carol.Raymundo at linnbenton.edu Tue Apr 8 07:53:55 2008 From: Carol.Raymundo at linnbenton.edu (Carol Raymundo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47FB2493.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> Wow, thank you so much for the wonderful dialogue regarding this question! I appreciate everyone's opinion and have gotten some valuable feedback. My position at our college is a brand new position so we are experiencing the wide world of AT for the first time. It is all exciting and very rewarding to see students succeed with the help of a computer program! Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward. >>> Christopher Kinney 4/8/2008 6:36 AM >>> I totally agree. I dislike how Premier has been pushed as the end all be all solution for post-secondary accessibility. The aggressive marketing makes it's difficult to explain the pros and cons of other products when the administrative powers that be are looking for the cheapest way out. I think Premier is fine as solution for people who may not have the means to purchase an expensive AT product. However, I don't think it's the greatest solution in terms of ease of use, compatibility and support in a large enterprise environment. It's always better to have a variety of tools in your AT toolbox and not just one. Christopher Kinney Assistive Technology Coordinator Center for Disability Services Georgia Perimeter College 555 N. Indian Creek Drive Clarkston GA 30021 TEL: 678-891-3385 FAX: 404-298-3830 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ead at ecs.soton.ac.uk Thu Apr 10 02:16:32 2008 From: ead at ecs.soton.ac.uk (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Thunder screen reader free for ALL Message-ID: Apologies for cross posting with this news but I feel it may be useful to many folks including those testing websites for accessibility issues. Thunder screen reader is now free to all organisations and all individuals and can be downloaded from http://www.screenreader.net/ A useful addition is when it works with WebbIE text browser http://www.webbie.org.uk/ Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From ron at ahead.org Thu Apr 10 06:35:12 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] 508 Refresh Report Message-ID: <002001c89b0f$b44366f0$1cca34d0$@org> Morning all, Here is the link to the final report from the Section 508 refresh group to the US Access Board. http://www.access-board.gov/sec508/refresh/report/ Happy reading! ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabillites Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 231 Clarksville Rd Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Direct: 609 803-2174 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 609 799-0475 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Thu Apr 10 18:44:00 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] EASI Webinar Snapshot Choosing Reliable Assistive Products Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080410184041.02202d90@pop.gmail.com> EASI Webinar Snapshot Choosing Reliable Assistive Products Wed. April 16 2 PM Eastern President Reagan once said, "Trust but verify!" and this is a good rule in selecting products whose vendors say are accessible. Section 508 relates to making purchases and it has tools to help you. The VPAT, Voluntary Product Accessibility Template, is a device jointly created by the Information Technology Industries Council and the U.S. General Services Administration (GSA) to help vendors meet the 508 standards and help purchasers understand what the vendor is doing to meet those 508 standards. EASI's Webinar Snapshots are short, to-the-point presentations and we will only begin to scratch the surface of introducing the VPAT. Many of us have come to associate Section 508 with Web standards, but Section 508 actually has 8 sections dealing with other topics such as video, self contained devices and more. This Snapshot will give a quick overview of the Section 508 sub sections and a quick overview of the VPAT. In May the Webinar Snapshot will introduce the government Services Administration Accessible Buying Guide. These Snapshots are a preview for a in-depth 4-part presentation this fall giving a detailed understanding of the 508 sub sections and of how to write and understand the Voluntary Product Accessible Template. Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com From accessible.text at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 14:58:00 2008 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY Message-ID: <9edf8160804131458w379ea8aby589db60750fe53e6@mail.gmail.com> Here are some thoughts on DAISY that might be of interest. http://accessiblemedia.wordpress.com/ From pratikp1 at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 15:24:55 2008 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY In-Reply-To: <9edf8160804131458w379ea8aby589db60750fe53e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <9edf8160804131458w379ea8aby589db60750fe53e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001b01c89db5$346eb0d0$9d4c1270$@com> Who's the author? -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 5:58 PM To: acb-l@acb.org; Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; ACCESSINFO-L@infoserv.nlc-bnc.ca; AEBC sponsered mailing list Subject: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY Here are some thoughts on DAISY that might be of interest. http://accessiblemedia.wordpress.com/ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From kerscher at montana.com Sun Apr 13 21:06:07 2008 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY In-Reply-To: <001b01c89db5$346eb0d0$9d4c1270$@com> References: <9edf8160804131458w379ea8aby589db60750fe53e6@mail.gmail.com> <001b01c89db5$346eb0d0$9d4c1270$@com> Message-ID: <001001c89de4$ed0018d0$c7004a70$@com> Hello, Some very interesting comments. Yes, who was the author. The Advisory Committee is meeting this week and I will make sure the committee members read the post. Best George > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Pratik Patel > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 4:25 PM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY > > Who's the author? > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 5:58 PM > To: acb-l@acb.org; Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; > ACCESSINFO-L@infoserv.nlc-bnc.ca; AEBC sponsered mailing list > Subject: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY > > Here are some thoughts on DAISY that might be of interest. > http://accessiblemedia.wordpress.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Mon Apr 14 06:03:25 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY References: <9edf8160804131458w379ea8aby589db60750fe53e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Interesting article. However, I take exception to the section about topic sentences and main ideas. If someone wants to do markup for such things, then I, as a non-disabled person, want the same for my books. If I had had textbooks in college that highlighted the main topic sentences, I'd have never had to read a textbook all the way through. I'm sorry, where's the equal access in this idea? To me this sounds like way more than equal access, this sounds like learning tools added in to the document, and that, to me, sounds more like enabling than equal access. Did anyone else notice this? Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL Technology and Educational Support Services/ Campus Technology Support Services St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 From accessible.text at gmail.com Mon Apr 14 07:34:43 2008 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY In-Reply-To: References: <9edf8160804131458w379ea8aby589db60750fe53e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9edf8160804140734g6cb1c9f7s8cc452efb8ee781b@mail.gmail.com> Susan, That suggestion was made by Chuck Hitchcock from CAST, so I assume he is referring to K-12 textbooks being provided in NIMAS that already have the main idea and topic sentences highlighted in the text. -- Bob On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: > Interesting article. However, I take exception to the section about > topic sentences and main ideas. If someone wants to do markup for such > things, then I, as a non-disabled person, want the same for my books. > > If I had had textbooks in college that highlighted the main topic > sentences, I'd have never had to read a textbook all the way through. > > I'm sorry, where's the equal access in this idea? To me this sounds > like way more than equal access, this sounds like learning tools added > in to the document, and that, to me, sounds more like enabling than > equal access. > > Did anyone else notice this? > > Susan Kelmer > Adaptive Technology Specialist > Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL > Technology and Educational Support Services/ > Campus Technology Support Services > St. Louis Community College at Meramec > 314/984-7951 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From ea at emptech.info Mon Apr 14 13:55:42 2008 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY In-Reply-To: References: <9edf8160804131458w379ea8aby589db60750fe53e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003801c89e71$e8b2e3b0$ba18ab10$@info> Yes I did and I thought how helpful that would be for those with a wide range of learning difficulties (LD, dyslexia, ADD, ADHD etc). I would have said this would normally be part of the study skills advice student's receive rather than an accessibility option. Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: 14 April 2008 14:03 To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY Interesting article. However, I take exception to the section about topic sentences and main ideas. If someone wants to do markup for such things, then I, as a non-disabled person, want the same for my books. If I had had textbooks in college that highlighted the main topic sentences, I'd have never had to read a textbook all the way through. I'm sorry, where's the equal access in this idea? To me this sounds like way more than equal access, this sounds like learning tools added in to the document, and that, to me, sounds more like enabling than equal access. Did anyone else notice this? Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL Technology and Educational Support Services/ Campus Technology Support Services St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: 13/04/2008 13:45 From accessible.text at gmail.com Mon Apr 14 14:15:45 2008 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY In-Reply-To: <003801c89e71$e8b2e3b0$ba18ab10$@info> References: <9edf8160804131458w379ea8aby589db60750fe53e6@mail.gmail.com> <003801c89e71$e8b2e3b0$ba18ab10$@info> Message-ID: <9edf8160804141415q1087f28cve0749ce15ab6606@mail.gmail.com> Hello E.A., DAISY has made considerable efforts to define equal access as equal usability, but it is not always clear where to draw the line. One persons 'study tool' is another persons accommodation. The best way to minimize the problem is to offer the same accessibility options to ALL students, not just the 'Chafee population' (a US specific term, I know). This is unlikely to happen as long as copyright exemptions cloud the picture. Regards, Bob On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, E.A. Draffan wrote: > Yes I did and I thought how helpful that would be for those with a wide > range of learning difficulties (LD, dyslexia, ADD, ADHD etc). I would have > said this would normally be part of the study skills advice student's > receive rather than an accessibility option. > > Best wishes E.A. > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > Learning Societies Lab, > ECS, University of Southampton, > Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 > http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk > http://www.emptech.info > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. > Sent: 14 April 2008 14:03 > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY > > Interesting article. However, I take exception to the section about > topic sentences and main ideas. If someone wants to do markup for such > things, then I, as a non-disabled person, want the same for my books. > > If I had had textbooks in college that highlighted the main topic > sentences, I'd have never had to read a textbook all the way through. > > I'm sorry, where's the equal access in this idea? To me this sounds > like way more than equal access, this sounds like learning tools added > in to the document, and that, to me, sounds more like enabling than > equal access. > > Did anyone else notice this? > > Susan Kelmer > Adaptive Technology Specialist > Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL > Technology and Educational Support Services/ > Campus Technology Support Services > St. Louis Community College at Meramec > 314/984-7951 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: 13/04/2008 > 13:45 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From ea at emptech.info Mon Apr 14 15:05:00 2008 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY In-Reply-To: <9edf8160804141415q1087f28cve0749ce15ab6606@mail.gmail.com> References: <9edf8160804131458w379ea8aby589db60750fe53e6@mail.gmail.com> <003801c89e71$e8b2e3b0$ba18ab10$@info> <9edf8160804141415q1087f28cve0749ce15ab6606@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c89e7b$9a15b8e0$ce412aa0$@info> Thank you for the explanation as I have to admit I was a little confused - this is such an important subject and we are all working at it in so many different ways :>)) One of the recent developments over here is the Publisher Lookup UK http://www.publisherlookup.org.uk/index.php Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: Robert Martinengo [mailto:accessible.text@gmail.com] Sent: 14 April 2008 22:16 To: ea@emptech.info; Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY Hello E.A., DAISY has made considerable efforts to define equal access as equal usability, but it is not always clear where to draw the line. One persons 'study tool' is another persons accommodation. The best way to minimize the problem is to offer the same accessibility options to ALL students, not just the 'Chafee population' (a US specific term, I know). This is unlikely to happen as long as copyright exemptions cloud the picture. Regards, Bob On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, E.A. Draffan wrote: > Yes I did and I thought how helpful that would be for those with a wide > range of learning difficulties (LD, dyslexia, ADD, ADHD etc). I would have > said this would normally be part of the study skills advice student's > receive rather than an accessibility option. > > Best wishes E.A. > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > Learning Societies Lab, > ECS, University of Southampton, > Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 > http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk > http://www.emptech.info > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. > Sent: 14 April 2008 14:03 > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY > > Interesting article. However, I take exception to the section about > topic sentences and main ideas. If someone wants to do markup for such > things, then I, as a non-disabled person, want the same for my books. > > If I had had textbooks in college that highlighted the main topic > sentences, I'd have never had to read a textbook all the way through. > > I'm sorry, where's the equal access in this idea? To me this sounds > like way more than equal access, this sounds like learning tools added > in to the document, and that, to me, sounds more like enabling than > equal access. > > Did anyone else notice this? > > Susan Kelmer > Adaptive Technology Specialist > Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL > Technology and Educational Support Services/ > Campus Technology Support Services > St. Louis Community College at Meramec > 314/984-7951 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: 13/04/2008 > 13:45 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: 13/04/2008 13:45 From marks at mso.umt.edu Tue Apr 15 12:13:26 2008 From: marks at mso.umt.edu (Marks, Jim) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software In-Reply-To: References: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu><14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB005A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB0BFF@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> It's good to hear that you have things covered at your institution, Susan. My experience is that many other institutions will wiggle out of their responsibilities unless someone calls for accountability. After all, access follows advocacy and does not happen on its own. People with disabilities have too much life to live to wait on others to do the right thing. That's why your admonishment to stop assuming makes little sense to me. I've seen the discriminatory practice of using low quality technology in place of the good stuff. I've seen people put budgets ahead of civil rights. I've been burned by bad technology, and I've seen others with disabilities burned as well. Why is this experience so threatening to you? Who are you defending? I really am curious since it's obvious you care deeply about equal access and the appropriate use of technology. Heck, I even agree with you that most colleges do right by their assistive technology obligations. However, beyond any shadow of a doubt, there are many institutions that are not so enlightened. And things are not helped a bit when businesses capitalize on prejudices with sly marketing techniques and unreachable promises. The assumption that all is good seems foolish to me, but the assumption that we can trust institutions to do what they have shown us they will do not only makes good sense, it's a necessity. Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:49 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software My only concern with your comments, Jim, is that you make the assumption that we are providing either/or, i.e., Premier/others. That's not the case. We provide it all, as do most other campuses. Everyone knows that you get what you pay for, and we also all know that sometimes low-tech and low-cost is effective for a certain process, and not effective for another. Stop assuming we are replacing things like Zoomtext and WYNN and Read and Write with Premier, and you'll stop hearing from me on the subject. My licensing for the Premiere suite is about $1000 per year. That has been relatively cost-effective for us. Of course, it depends on where/how we deploy it, as well. And I wouldn't trade Text-to-Audio for just about anything, at this point. It is the MOST-used Premier product for me and has been for about five years now. I could not get my work done without it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Tue Apr 15 12:51:07 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software References: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu><14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB005A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB0BFF@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: Since you asked, Jim, and I'm just in that kind of mood right now (don't ask me what kind of day I'm having), the truth is, I'm defending all the "good" institutions out there that are doing the right thing. It NEVER occurred to me when I took this job nearly 8 years ago that we would offer only what we could get away with. I came in this job and cleaned house. I completely rehabbed the lab I was handed, which was woefully understaffed, underequipped, underutilized, and misunderstood. I spent $400,00 the first year replacing computers, printers, networking equipment, adaptive software, furniture, you name it. It never occurred to me to find out what would barely meet the needs of the students I serve. I bought what they needed and I never once bowed my head and begged the Dean. You see, my background is not academic or nonprofit. When I came in here, I came in with a business attitude; I came in with facts and figures and risks and advantages. When I spent $5000 to buy new licenses for Zoomtext and Jaws, no one blinked. When I spent $35,000 on sound-reduced enclosed rooms for students to use Dragon, no one blinked. When I sat my network technician down a week after I arrived and showed him the schematics for rewiring the entire network in my lab at a cost of about $30,000, he didn't blink either. Two years later when I started our fledgling alternate format initiative and made a demand for equipment and staff, no one blinked. We just did what needed to be done. The risks for not doing what needed to be done were far costlier than doing the right thing to begin with. I do not, in my heart or in my experience, believe that many other campuses are taking the attitude of "budget first," when it comes to adaptive technology. What I see are campuses making a choice to provide what is needed for the students, from high end to low end. I see campuses making cuts when they have to, and finding alternatives when they have to, but these alternatives are rarely at the cost of removing higher-end solutions that are already there. And certainly on this list, and others that I'm on, I do not see people trying to "dumb down" the system and use what is cheap. In fact, I've never seen a single one of the requests for information about lower-end products that hit this list say "we're going to replace Kurzweil 3000 with Premier Software's Scan and Read." I don't see that in their messages. I assume they are looking for alternatives because they've heard that there are alternatives, and they want to know what's out there. I am not making the assumption that they are trying to cheap out, and I think that is what bothers me so much about your posts. That is the first thing you assume about them, and respond accordingly. It is unprofessional and counterproductive, in my opinion, to be taking that stance with every post about Premier that hits this list. In the case of my campus, and in the case of many other campuses out there, access does not follow advocacy. Advocacy has no place in it at all; we provide access regardless of the demand, and regardless of the cost. We provide a complete working environment for our students and our potential students. There is, truly, no other way to do it. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL Technology and Educational Support Services/ Campus Technology Support Services St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marks at mso.umt.edu Tue Apr 15 14:08:24 2008 From: marks at mso.umt.edu (Marks, Jim) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software In-Reply-To: References: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu><14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB005A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu><14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB0BFF@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB0C4B@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Hi Susan, I am having a great day in spite of being called unprofessional for expressing my opinions. In fact, I cannot restrain myself from offering more of the same. You seem to contradict yourself below. On one hand, you said, "The risks for not doing what needed to be done were far costlier than doing the right thing to begin with." Then, on the other hand, you said, "access does not follow advocacy. Advocacy has no place in it at all; we provide access regardless of the demand, and regardless of the cost." So you say there is a risk. In your opinion, what exactly is that risk? I am genuinely interested in your saying more about the motivational factors involved. I am especially interested in your saying more about the perceived disconnect between the risk and the access. Lastly, thank you for your advocacy. I am still not clear what motivated your advocacy, but it certainly seems effective. Without your advocacy or without the advocacy of another, the students with disabilities on your campus surely would not enjoy the access they have now. Susan, advocacy has everything to do with access. BTW, Premier still cannot replace the good stuff, either. (grin) Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:51 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software Since you asked, Jim, and I'm just in that kind of mood right now (don't ask me what kind of day I'm having), the truth is, I'm defending all the "good" institutions out there that are doing the right thing. It NEVER occurred to me when I took this job nearly 8 years ago that we would offer only what we could get away with. I came in this job and cleaned house. I completely rehabbed the lab I was handed, which was woefully understaffed, underequipped, underutilized, and misunderstood. I spent $400,00 the first year replacing computers, printers, networking equipment, adaptive software, furniture, you name it. It never occurred to me to find out what would barely meet the needs of the students I serve. I bought what they needed and I never once bowed my head and begged the Dean. You see, my background is not academic or nonprofit. When I came in here, I came in with a business attitude; I came in with facts and figures and risks and advantages. When I spent $5000 to buy new licenses for Zoomtext and Jaws, no one blinked. When I spent $35,000 on sound-reduced enclosed rooms for students to use Dragon, no one blinked. When I sat my network technician down a week after I arrived and showed him the schematics for rewiring the entire network in my lab at a cost of about $30,000, he didn't blink either. Two years later when I started our fledgling alternate format initiative and made a demand for equipment and staff, no one blinked. We just did what needed to be done. The risks for not doing what needed to be done were far costlier than doing the right thing to begin with. I do not, in my heart or in my experience, believe that many other campuses are taking the attitude of "budget first," when it comes to adaptive technology. What I see are campuses making a choice to provide what is needed for the students, from high end to low end. I see campuses making cuts when they have to, and finding alternatives when they have to, but these alternatives are rarely at the cost of removing higher-end solutions that are already there. And certainly on this list, and others that I'm on, I do not see people trying to "dumb down" the system and use what is cheap. In fact, I've never seen a single one of the requests for information about lower-end products that hit this list say "we're going to replace Kurzweil 3000 with Premier Software's Scan and Read." I don't see that in their messages. I assume they are looking for alternatives because they've heard that there are alternatives, and they want to know what's out there. I am not making the assumption that they are trying to cheap out, and I think that is what bothers me so much about your posts. That is the first thing you assume about them, and respond accordingly. It is unprofessional and counterproductive, in my opinion, to be taking that stance with every post about Premier that hits this list. In the case of my campus, and in the case of many other campuses out there, access does not follow advocacy. Advocacy has no place in it at all; we provide access regardless of the demand, and regardless of the cost. We provide a complete working environment for our students and our potential students. There is, truly, no other way to do it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kvaldez8 at mscd.edu Tue Apr 15 14:26:04 2008 From: kvaldez8 at mscd.edu (Keith Valdez) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 27, Issue 21 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001701c89f3f$4f7605f0$ee6211d0$@edu> "Interesting article. However, I take exception to the section about topic sentences and main ideas. If someone wants to do markup for such things, then I, as a non-disabled person, want the same for my books. If I had had textbooks in college that highlighted the main topic sentences, I'd have never had to read a textbook all the way through. I'm sorry, where's the equal access in this idea? To me this sounds like way more than equal access, this sounds like learning tools added in to the document, and that, to me, sounds more like enabling than equal access. Did anyone else notice this?" My sentiment exactly. When we recreate text books in our office, we do our best to make as exact a port as possible. If all goes as planned with any particular book, we have basically duplicated it as an electronic version of itself, pictures and all. We do not add anything, as technically I'm not sure we're aloud to. However, there are rare cases in which we'll have to omit pictures to ensure accessibility, but with the way ABBYY 8 works, we rarely have to do that. Thanks, Keith Valdez Adaptive Technology Specialist Metro State College of Denver's ACCESS Center for Disability Accommodations and Adapitve Technology Phone: 303-556-8387 Fax: 303-556-6852 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:00 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 27, Issue 21 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Thoughts on DAISY (E.A. Draffan) 2. Re: Thoughts on DAISY (Robert Martinengo) 3. Re: Thoughts on DAISY (E.A. Draffan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:55:42 +0100 From: "E.A. Draffan" Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <003801c89e71$e8b2e3b0$ba18ab10$@info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes I did and I thought how helpful that would be for those with a wide range of learning difficulties (LD, dyslexia, ADD, ADHD etc). I would have said this would normally be part of the study skills advice student's receive rather than an accessibility option. Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: 14 April 2008 14:03 To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY Interesting article. However, I take exception to the section about topic sentences and main ideas. If someone wants to do markup for such things, then I, as a non-disabled person, want the same for my books. If I had had textbooks in college that highlighted the main topic sentences, I'd have never had to read a textbook all the way through. I'm sorry, where's the equal access in this idea? To me this sounds like way more than equal access, this sounds like learning tools added in to the document, and that, to me, sounds more like enabling than equal access. Did anyone else notice this? Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL Technology and Educational Support Services/ Campus Technology Support Services St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: 13/04/2008 13:45 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:15:45 -0400 From: "Robert Martinengo" Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY To: ea@emptech.info, "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: <9edf8160804141415q1087f28cve0749ce15ab6606@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello E.A., DAISY has made considerable efforts to define equal access as equal usability, but it is not always clear where to draw the line. One persons 'study tool' is another persons accommodation. The best way to minimize the problem is to offer the same accessibility options to ALL students, not just the 'Chafee population' (a US specific term, I know). This is unlikely to happen as long as copyright exemptions cloud the picture. Regards, Bob On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, E.A. Draffan wrote: > Yes I did and I thought how helpful that would be for those with a wide > range of learning difficulties (LD, dyslexia, ADD, ADHD etc). I would have > said this would normally be part of the study skills advice student's > receive rather than an accessibility option. > > Best wishes E.A. > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > Learning Societies Lab, > ECS, University of Southampton, > Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 > http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk > http://www.emptech.info > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. > Sent: 14 April 2008 14:03 > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY > > Interesting article. However, I take exception to the section about > topic sentences and main ideas. If someone wants to do markup for such > things, then I, as a non-disabled person, want the same for my books. > > If I had had textbooks in college that highlighted the main topic > sentences, I'd have never had to read a textbook all the way through. > > I'm sorry, where's the equal access in this idea? To me this sounds > like way more than equal access, this sounds like learning tools added > in to the document, and that, to me, sounds more like enabling than > equal access. > > Did anyone else notice this? > > Susan Kelmer > Adaptive Technology Specialist > Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL > Technology and Educational Support Services/ > Campus Technology Support Services > St. Louis Community College at Meramec > 314/984-7951 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: 13/04/2008 > 13:45 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:05:00 +0100 From: "E.A. Draffan" Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY To: "'Robert Martinengo'" , "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <000001c89e7b$9a15b8e0$ce412aa0$@info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thank you for the explanation as I have to admit I was a little confused - this is such an important subject and we are all working at it in so many different ways :>)) One of the recent developments over here is the Publisher Lookup UK http://www.publisherlookup.org.uk/index.php Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: Robert Martinengo [mailto:accessible.text@gmail.com] Sent: 14 April 2008 22:16 To: ea@emptech.info; Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY Hello E.A., DAISY has made considerable efforts to define equal access as equal usability, but it is not always clear where to draw the line. One persons 'study tool' is another persons accommodation. The best way to minimize the problem is to offer the same accessibility options to ALL students, not just the 'Chafee population' (a US specific term, I know). This is unlikely to happen as long as copyright exemptions cloud the picture. Regards, Bob On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, E.A. Draffan wrote: > Yes I did and I thought how helpful that would be for those with a wide > range of learning difficulties (LD, dyslexia, ADD, ADHD etc). I would have > said this would normally be part of the study skills advice student's > receive rather than an accessibility option. > > Best wishes E.A. > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > Learning Societies Lab, > ECS, University of Southampton, > Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 > http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk > http://www.emptech.info > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. > Sent: 14 April 2008 14:03 > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY > > Interesting article. However, I take exception to the section about > topic sentences and main ideas. If someone wants to do markup for such > things, then I, as a non-disabled person, want the same for my books. > > If I had had textbooks in college that highlighted the main topic > sentences, I'd have never had to read a textbook all the way through. > > I'm sorry, where's the equal access in this idea? To me this sounds > like way more than equal access, this sounds like learning tools added > in to the document, and that, to me, sounds more like enabling than > equal access. > > Did anyone else notice this? > > Susan Kelmer > Adaptive Technology Specialist > Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL > Technology and Educational Support Services/ > Campus Technology Support Services > St. Louis Community College at Meramec > 314/984-7951 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: 13/04/2008 > 13:45 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: 13/04/2008 13:45 ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 27, Issue 21 ************************************* From kerscher at montana.com Tue Apr 15 22:13:23 2008 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] interesting article In-Reply-To: <001701c89f3f$4f7605f0$ee6211d0$@edu> References: <001701c89f3f$4f7605f0$ee6211d0$@edu> Message-ID: <000001c89f80$9f3cc790$ddb656b0$@com> Hello Keith, Indeed DAISY has been used to provide equal access to print publications. However, we are trying to go way beyond basic accessibility. The requirements that are being gathered look at the further development of digital publishing for everybody. Identification of topic sentences, fuzzy logic searching, dictionary word look ups and more are intended for all in the new digital publishing arena. We are trying to build in accessibility from the ground up as digital publishing evolves. Best George > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Keith Valdez > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:26 PM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: Re: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 27, Issue 21 > > "Interesting article. However, I take exception to the section about > topic > sentences and main ideas. If someone wants to do markup for such > things, > then I, as a non-disabled person, want the same for my books. > > If I had had textbooks in college that highlighted the main topic > sentences, > I'd have never had to read a textbook all the way through. > > I'm sorry, where's the equal access in this idea? To me this sounds > like > way more than equal access, this sounds like learning tools added in to > the > document, and that, to me, sounds more like enabling than > equal access. > > Did anyone else notice this?" > > My sentiment exactly. When we recreate text books in our office, we do > our > best to make as exact a port as possible. If all goes as planned with > any > particular book, we have basically duplicated it as an electronic > version of > itself, pictures and all. We do not add anything, as technically I'm > not > sure we're aloud to. However, there are rare cases in which we'll have > to > omit pictures to ensure accessibility, but with the way ABBYY 8 works, > we > rarely have to do that. > > Thanks, > > Keith Valdez > Adaptive Technology Specialist > Metro State College of Denver's > ACCESS Center for > Disability Accommodations and > Adapitve Technology > Phone: 303-556-8387 > Fax: 303-556-6852 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:00 PM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 27, Issue 21 > > Send Athen mailing list submissions to > > > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Thoughts on DAISY (E.A. Draffan) > 2. Re: Thoughts on DAISY (Robert Martinengo) > 3. Re: Thoughts on DAISY (E.A. Draffan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:55:42 +0100 > From: "E.A. Draffan" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY > To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > > Message-ID: <003801c89e71$e8b2e3b0$ba18ab10$@info> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Yes I did and I thought how helpful that would be for those with a wide > range of learning difficulties (LD, dyslexia, ADD, ADHD etc). I would > have > said this would normally be part of the study skills advice student's > receive rather than an accessibility option. > > Best wishes E.A. > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > Learning Societies Lab, > ECS, University of Southampton, > Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 > http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk > http://www.emptech.info > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. > Sent: 14 April 2008 14:03 > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY > > Interesting article. However, I take exception to the section about > topic sentences and main ideas. If someone wants to do markup for such > things, then I, as a non-disabled person, want the same for my books. > > If I had had textbooks in college that highlighted the main topic > sentences, I'd have never had to read a textbook all the way through. > > I'm sorry, where's the equal access in this idea? To me this sounds > like way more than equal access, this sounds like learning tools added > in to the document, and that, to me, sounds more like enabling than > equal access. > > Did anyone else notice this? > > Susan Kelmer > Adaptive Technology Specialist > Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL > Technology and Educational Support Services/ > Campus Technology Support Services > St. Louis Community College at Meramec > 314/984-7951 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: > 13/04/2008 > 13:45 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:15:45 -0400 > From: "Robert Martinengo" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY > To: ea@emptech.info, "Access Technologists in Higher Education > Network" > Message-ID: > <9edf8160804141415q1087f28cve0749ce15ab6606@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello E.A., > > DAISY has made considerable efforts to define equal access as equal > usability, but it is not always clear where to draw the line. One > persons 'study tool' is another persons accommodation. The best way to > minimize the problem is to offer the same accessibility options to ALL > students, not just the 'Chafee population' (a US specific term, I > know). This is unlikely to happen as long as copyright exemptions > cloud the picture. > > Regards, > Bob > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, E.A. Draffan wrote: > > Yes I did and I thought how helpful that would be for those with a > wide > > range of learning difficulties (LD, dyslexia, ADD, ADHD etc). I > would > have > > said this would normally be part of the study skills advice > student's > > receive rather than an accessibility option. > > > > Best wishes E.A. > > > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > > Learning Societies Lab, > > ECS, University of Southampton, > > Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 > > http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk > > http://www.emptech.info > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On > > Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. > > Sent: 14 April 2008 14:03 > > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY > > > > Interesting article. However, I take exception to the section about > > topic sentences and main ideas. If someone wants to do markup for > such > > things, then I, as a non-disabled person, want the same for my > books. > > > > If I had had textbooks in college that highlighted the main topic > > sentences, I'd have never had to read a textbook all the way > through. > > > > I'm sorry, where's the equal access in this idea? To me this sounds > > like way more than equal access, this sounds like learning tools > added > > in to the document, and that, to me, sounds more like enabling than > > equal access. > > > > Did anyone else notice this? > > > > Susan Kelmer > > Adaptive Technology Specialist > > Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL > > Technology and Educational Support Services/ > > Campus Technology Support Services > > St. Louis Community College at Meramec > > 314/984-7951 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: > 13/04/2008 > > 13:45 > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:05:00 +0100 > From: "E.A. Draffan" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY > To: "'Robert Martinengo'" , "'Access > Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > Message-ID: <000001c89e7b$9a15b8e0$ce412aa0$@info> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thank you for the explanation as I have to admit I was a little > confused - > this is such an important subject and we are all working at it in so > many > different ways :>)) One of the recent developments over here is the > Publisher Lookup UK http://www.publisherlookup.org.uk/index.php > Best wishes E.A. > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > Learning Societies Lab, > ECS, University of Southampton, > Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 > http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk > http://www.emptech.info > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Martinengo [mailto:accessible.text@gmail.com] > Sent: 14 April 2008 22:16 > To: ea@emptech.info; Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY > > Hello E.A., > > DAISY has made considerable efforts to define equal access as equal > usability, but it is not always clear where to draw the line. One > persons 'study tool' is another persons accommodation. The best way to > minimize the problem is to offer the same accessibility options to ALL > students, not just the 'Chafee population' (a US specific term, I > know). This is unlikely to happen as long as copyright exemptions > cloud the picture. > > Regards, > Bob > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, E.A. Draffan wrote: > > Yes I did and I thought how helpful that would be for those with a > wide > > range of learning difficulties (LD, dyslexia, ADD, ADHD etc). I > would > have > > said this would normally be part of the study skills advice > student's > > receive rather than an accessibility option. > > > > Best wishes E.A. > > > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > > Learning Societies Lab, > > ECS, University of Southampton, > > Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 > > http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk > > http://www.emptech.info > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On > > Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. > > Sent: 14 April 2008 14:03 > > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Thoughts on DAISY > > > > Interesting article. However, I take exception to the section about > > topic sentences and main ideas. If someone wants to do markup for > such > > things, then I, as a non-disabled person, want the same for my > books. > > > > If I had had textbooks in college that highlighted the main topic > > sentences, I'd have never had to read a textbook all the way > through. > > > > I'm sorry, where's the equal access in this idea? To me this sounds > > like way more than equal access, this sounds like learning tools > added > > in to the document, and that, to me, sounds more like enabling than > > equal access. > > > > Did anyone else notice this? > > > > Susan Kelmer > > Adaptive Technology Specialist > > Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL > > Technology and Educational Support Services/ > > Campus Technology Support Services > > St. Louis Community College at Meramec > > 314/984-7951 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: > 13/04/2008 > > 13:45 > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: > 13/04/2008 > 13:45 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 27, Issue 21 > ************************************* > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed Apr 16 06:44:24 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software References: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu><14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB005A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu><14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB0BFF@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB0C4B@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: Jim Said: "So you say there is a risk. In your opinion, what exactly is that risk? I am genuinely interested in your saying more about the motivational factors involved. I am especially interested in your saying more about the perceived disconnect between the risk and the access." My comments: Risks: Things we want to avoid. Like lawsuits, OCR complaints, and the local consumer reporter showing up on our campus to grill us about why we aren't providing equal access. I never once took the attitude that "I can't" or "we can't" when it came to adaptive technology. I didn't need to wait for advocacy from a student/parent/counselor to get the lab up and running. I just took it upon myself to do it right to begin with. When I say that advocacy had nothing to do with it, I mean in a literal sense. I didn't wait to be told/asked/cajoled/forced. I just came in and did it to begin with. There is, in my opinion, absolutely no excuse for saying no when it comes to adaptive technology. A few hundred dollars for a piece of software or hardware beats a hundred thousand dollars for an OCR complaint defense. What motivated me to do what I did when I came here? I have three disabled children. One has a learning disability, one has seizure disorder, and all three have some form of ADD/ADHD. I have a ton of friends who are disabled, both online friends and real life friends. When one of my blind friends found out I was coming to work here, he sat me down and explained to me his biggest issues. He worked for, at the time, Blazie Engineering, and I picked his brain until we were both bloody. It was worth every minute, because I came here knowing what needed to be done, despite the fact that I'd never worked in adaptive technology or disability services. I took one look at the sad state of this computer lab, and accommodations being offered, and rolled up my sleeves. I have never looked back. My background is in corporate training and management. I use many of those skills here to assess risk and find solutions to problems that may not even exist yet. For me, being ahead of the curve is a whole lot better than being run over by the freight train that is barreling down the tracks behind me. One distinct advantage for me is that I do not have a background that was cramped by budget considerations or can't-do attitudes. I do hear this quite a bit when I'm at conferences and even on my own campus. "We don't have that in our budget," or "How do you find the money?" My answer always is that the money is there. Don't be afraid to ask. Don't be afraid to push the issue. Under no circumstances should you go begging, hat in hand, to a dean or vice president or CIO for money. Stand up, be firm, make a demand, not a request. Be ready to list the risks of not meeting the demand, but ONLY if you are asked. Do not make excuses or explanations or apologies. If you act like a second-class citizen, you will be treated like one. I realize that for some of our colleagues, this attitude is a radical shift from how they do business. Their campus culture has inured them to an attitude of subservience and meekness. I refuse to have that attitude; I've been here almost eight years and have still not bought into that campus culture. This doesn't mean I don't treat campus management with respect; on the contrary, I'm extremely respectful, but I am not meek. I state our needs clearly and with an attitude that they can't say no. When I die, inscribed on my tombstone will be my boss' favorite phrase regarding me. "I have never won an argument with this woman." I consider that a compliment. I do not accept the word "no" when it comes to accommodating our students. None of us should. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL Technology and Educational Support Services/ Campus Technology Support Services St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dina.rosenbaum at carroll.org Wed Apr 16 07:46:48 2008 From: dina.rosenbaum at carroll.org (Dina Rosenbaum) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software In-Reply-To: References: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu><14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB005A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu><14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB0BFF@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB0C4B@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: <48061158.8010204@carroll.org> We need more people like you working at the colleges! > > My comments: > > Risks: Things we want to avoid. Like lawsuits, OCR complaints, and the > local consumer reporter showing up on our campus to grill us about why > we aren?t providing equal access. I never once took the attitude that > ?I can?t? or ?we can?t? when it came to adaptive technology. I didn?t > need to wait for advocacy from a student/parent/counselor to get the > lab up and running. I just took it upon myself to do it right to begin > with. When I say that advocacy had nothing to do with it, I mean in a > literal sense. I didn?t wait to be told/asked/cajoled/forced. I just > came in and did it to begin with. There is, in my opinion, absolutely > no excuse for saying no when it comes to adaptive technology. A few > hundred dollars for a piece of software or hardware beats a hundred > thousand dollars for an OCR complaint defense. > > What motivated me to do what I did when I came here? I have three > disabled children. One has a learning disability, one has seizure > disorder, and all three have some form of ADD/ADHD. I have a ton of > friends who are disabled, both online friends and real life friends. > When one of my blind friends found out I was coming to work here, he > sat me down and explained to me his biggest issues. He worked for, at > the time, Blazie Engineering, and I picked his brain until we were > both bloody. It was worth every minute, because I came here knowing > what needed to be done, despite the fact that I?d never worked in > adaptive technology or disability services. I took one look at the sad > state of this computer lab, and accommodations being offered, and > rolled up my sleeves. I have never looked back. > > My background is in corporate training and management. I use many of > those skills here to assess risk and find solutions to problems that > may not even exist yet. For me, being ahead of the curve is a whole > lot better than being run over by the freight train that is barreling > down the tracks behind me. > > One distinct advantage for me is that I do not have a background that > was cramped by budget considerations or can?t-do attitudes. I do hear > this quite a bit when I?m at conferences and even on my own campus. > ?We don?t have that in our budget,? or ?How do you find the money?? My > answer always is that the money is there. Don?t be afraid to ask. > Don?t be afraid to push the issue. Under no circumstances should you > go begging, hat in hand, to a dean or vice president or CIO for money. > Stand up, be firm, make a demand, not a request. Be ready to list the > risks of not meeting the demand, but ONLY if you are asked. Do not > make excuses or explanations or apologies. If you act like a > second-class citizen, you will be treated like one. > > I realize that for some of our colleagues, this attitude is a radical > shift from how they do business. Their campus culture has inured them > to an attitude of subservience and meekness. I refuse to have that > attitude; I?ve been here almost eight years and have still not bought > into that campus culture. This doesn?t mean I don?t treat campus > management with respect; on the contrary, I?m extremely respectful, > but I am not meek. I state our needs clearly and with an attitude that > they can?t say no. > > When I die, inscribed on my tombstone will be my boss? favorite phrase > regarding me. ?I have never won an argument with this woman.? I > consider that a compliment. I do not accept the word ?no? when it > comes to accommodating our students. None of us should. > > Susan Kelmer > > Adaptive Technology Specialist > > Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL > > Technology and Educational Support Services/ > > Campus Technology Support Services > > St. Louis Community College at Meramec > > 314/984-7951 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -- Dina Rosenbaum Carroll Center for the BLind 770 Centre St, Newton, MA 02459 800-852-3131 www.carroll.org www.carrolltech.org From tft at u.washington.edu Wed Apr 16 22:46:41 2008 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] 2008 Survey on Accessible Technology in Higher Ed Message-ID: <200804170546.m3H5klCX003773@smtp.washington.edu> Please help to spread the word! The Access Technology Higher Education Network (ATHEN) is conducting a survey regarding higher education institutions' practices, procedures, and policies for addressing information technology accessibility needs of students. The last survey of its kind was conducted in 2004. Since accessibility is often the responsibility of many groups and individuals across campus, this survey has been divided into the following six sections: 1. Assistive Technology Products - to be completed by the person most knowledgeable of assistive technologies that are available to students at your institution. 2. Information Technology Accessibility - to be completed by the person most knowledgeable of procurement policies and/or procedures related to accessibility of information technology at your institution. 3. Web Accessibility - to be completed by the person most knowledgeable of web accessibility efforts at your institution. 4. Multimedia Accessibility - to be completed by the person most knowledgeable of efforts to ensure multimedia (video, podcasts, etc.) is accessible at your institution. 5. Alternative Format Production - to be completed by the person most knowledgeable of practices and procedures for providing print materials in alternate formats for students at your institution. 6. Staffing and Salaries - to be completed by the person most knowledgeable of position descriptions, salaries, qualifications, etc. for all positions whose primary focus is assistive technology or IT accessibility at your institution. Alternatively this section can be completed by individual staff members regarding their own positions. Please coordinate completion of this section with others from your institution. With the exception of Section 1 (Assistive Technology Products), each section of the survey is brief, and is expected to require approximately 10 minutes to complete. Section 1 is expected to require approximately 30 minutes to complete. Please help us by (a) completing any sections that are applicable to your position, and/or (b) recruiting the best people at your institution to complete the sections that apply to them. All survey participants will need to create an individual account in order to participate. The survey is located here: http://www.athenpro.org/survey/ The deadline for participating in the survey is Friday, May 16. Results will be published in the upcoming ATHEN e-Journal, and will be announced first in my pre-conference session at the AHEAD Conference, Monday July 14 in Reno. My session, co-facilitated with Lyla Crawford of the University of Washington, is titled "Creating Intersections that Connect Students with Disabilities and High-Tech Careers". This is an all-day Capacity Building Institute, and there will be plenty of opportunities to discuss the implications of the survey results. There's more information here: http://www.ahead.org/training/conference/2008/precon.php If you have questions, please let me know. Thanks to all for your help! Terry Terry Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 From marks at mso.umt.edu Thu Apr 17 14:04:44 2008 From: marks at mso.umt.edu (Marks, Jim) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen readers/other software In-Reply-To: References: <47F373C2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu><14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB005A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu><14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB0BFF@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu><14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AAB0C4B@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7AB0E545@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Very cool, Susan! Thanks! Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 7:44 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Screen readers/other software Jim Said: "So you say there is a risk. In your opinion, what exactly is that risk? I am genuinely interested in your saying more about the motivational factors involved. I am especially interested in your saying more about the perceived disconnect between the risk and the access." My comments: Risks: Things we want to avoid. Like lawsuits, OCR complaints, and the local consumer reporter showing up on our campus to grill us about why we aren't providing equal access. I never once took the attitude that "I can't" or "we can't" when it came to adaptive technology. I didn't need to wait for advocacy from a student/parent/counselor to get the lab up and running. I just took it upon myself to do it right to begin with. When I say that advocacy had nothing to do with it, I mean in a literal sense. I didn't wait to be told/asked/cajoled/forced. I just came in and did it to begin with. There is, in my opinion, absolutely no excuse for saying no when it comes to adaptive technology. A few hundred dollars for a piece of software or hardware beats a hundred thousand dollars for an OCR complaint defense. What motivated me to do what I did when I came here? I have three disabled children. One has a learning disability, one has seizure disorder, and all three have some form of ADD/ADHD. I have a ton of friends who are disabled, both online friends and real life friends. When one of my blind friends found out I was coming to work here, he sat me down and explained to me his biggest issues. He worked for, at the time, Blazie Engineering, and I picked his brain until we were both bloody. It was worth every minute, because I came here knowing what needed to be done, despite the fact that I'd never worked in adaptive technology or disability services. I took one look at the sad state of this computer lab, and accommodations being offered, and rolled up my sleeves. I have never looked back. My background is in corporate training and management. I use many of those skills here to assess risk and find solutions to problems that may not even exist yet. For me, being ahead of the curve is a whole lot better than being run over by the freight train that is barreling down the tracks behind me. One distinct advantage for me is that I do not have a background that was cramped by budget considerations or can't-do attitudes. I do hear this quite a bit when I'm at conferences and even on my own campus. "We don't have that in our budget," or "How do you find the money?" My answer always is that the money is there. Don't be afraid to ask. Don't be afraid to push the issue. Under no circumstances should you go begging, hat in hand, to a dean or vice president or CIO for money. Stand up, be firm, make a demand, not a request. Be ready to list the risks of not meeting the demand, but ONLY if you are asked. Do not make excuses or explanations or apologies. If you act like a second-class citizen, you will be treated like one. I realize that for some of our colleagues, this attitude is a radical shift from how they do business. Their campus culture has inured them to an attitude of subservience and meekness. I refuse to have that attitude; I've been here almost eight years and have still not bought into that campus culture. This doesn't mean I don't treat campus management with respect; on the contrary, I'm extremely respectful, but I am not meek. I state our needs clearly and with an attitude that they can't say no. When I die, inscribed on my tombstone will be my boss' favorite phrase regarding me. "I have never won an argument with this woman." I consider that a compliment. I do not accept the word "no" when it comes to accommodating our students. None of us should. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms/IAL Technology and Educational Support Services/ Campus Technology Support Services St. Louis Community College at Meramec 314/984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From FosterS at sou.edu Fri Apr 18 14:23:28 2008 From: FosterS at sou.edu (Shawn Foster) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? Message-ID: <4808AEE0.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> I have a student with limited mobility in her upper body and arms. She'd really like to find a remote control that can turn her computer off and on at home (she has an assistant while in classes or labs). I thought of using a simple remote switch, but that only works when the device can be left in the "on" position and the power source connected or disconnected (like a lamp). She uses a Mac, so using a scheduled start up/shut down sequence is certainly possible... but not quite what she's looking for. She'd like to minimize power usage when she's not using the computer, and her schedule isn't always predictable, so really a remote would be ideal. I've been running through the web and still haven't found what I'm looking for (with a nod to Bono)... Anyone know of such a thing? Thanks, all. Shawn Foster Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Services for Students Southern Oregon University V/TTY: (541)552-6213 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Fri Apr 18 15:31:19 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? In-Reply-To: <4808AEE0.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> References: <4808AEE0.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> Message-ID: <006c01c8a1a3$ece0dd40$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Hi Shawn! Maybe I'm missing something, but if there is ability use the lower body, couldn't you just rig a knee or foot switch for her? ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Shawn Foster Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:23 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? I have a student with limited mobility in her upper body and arms. She'd really like to find a remote control that can turn her computer off and on at home (she has an assistant while in classes or labs). I thought of using a simple remote switch, but that only works when the device can be left in the "on" position and the power source connected or disconnected (like a lamp). She uses a Mac, so using a scheduled start up/shut down sequence is certainly possible... but not quite what she's looking for. She'd like to minimize power usage when she's not using the computer, and her schedule isn't always predictable, so really a remote would be ideal. I've been running through the web and still haven't found what I'm looking for (with a nod to Bono)... Anyone know of such a thing? Thanks, all. Shawn Foster Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Services for Students Southern Oregon University V/TTY: (541)552-6213 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danc at washington.edu Fri Apr 18 16:17:44 2008 From: danc at washington.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? In-Reply-To: <006c01c8a1a3$ece0dd40$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <4808AEE0.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> <006c01c8a1a3$ece0dd40$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: The problem with modern computers is that the on/off switch isn't really a switch that controls power like a light switch in the wall. It relays a signal to the power supply to turn on. If you think about how we turn on a laptop or modern desktop computer, it's a button that you press momentarily -- it doesn't save what "state" it's in but passes a brief signal to the machine's power supply to power up. And that feature is also why you can shut down the computer via a software command -- you're not activating a physical switch. So even if you put a switch on the floor that controls standard power via the cord that connects to the computer, activating it won't turn on the machine unless that leetle button on the case can then be activated. Putting that momentary switch on the floor or closer to the table edge or wherever is slightly more complicated. Someone who is savvy with soldering and dealing with wiring could extend the case wiring to a momentary floor switch. With a motherboard manual I don't think it'd be that hard. Most electrical engineering type folks on a campus could probably rig something pretty easily. I haven't seen a commercially available device that will do this ... yet. If it exists, I'm sure someone will chime in. -*- Dan Comden danc@washington.edu Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ University of Washington UW Technology Services On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Gaeir Dietrich wrote: > Hi Shawn! > > Maybe I'm missing something, but if there is ability use the lower body, > couldn't you just rig a knee or foot switch for her? > > ****************************************************** > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > High Tech Center Training Unit of the > California Community Colleges > De Anza College, Cupertino, CA > www.htctu.net > 408-996-6043 > > _____ > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Shawn Foster > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:23 PM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? > > > > I have a student with limited mobility in her upper body and arms. She'd > really like to find a remote control that can turn her computer off and on > at home (she has an assistant while in classes or labs). I thought of using > a simple remote switch, but that only works when the device can be left in > the "on" position and the power source connected or disconnected (like a > lamp). She uses a Mac, so using a scheduled start up/shut down sequence is > certainly possible... but not quite what she's looking for. She'd like to > minimize power usage when she's not using the computer, and her schedule > isn't always predictable, so really a remote would be ideal. > > > > I've been running through the web and still haven't found what I'm looking > for (with a nod to Bono)... > > > > Anyone know of such a thing? > > Thanks, all. > > > > > > Shawn Foster > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Disability Services for Students > Southern Oregon University > V/TTY: (541)552-6213 > > From dhayman at u.washington.edu Fri Apr 18 16:21:59 2008 From: dhayman at u.washington.edu (Doug Hayman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? In-Reply-To: References: <4808AEE0.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> <006c01c8a1a3$ece0dd40$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: There is this product for PCs: http://www.minomech.com/Prod_ME_PJ.html Doug Hayman Technology Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 355670 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Dan Comden wrote: > The problem with modern computers is that the on/off switch isn't really a > switch that controls power like a light switch in the wall. It relays a > signal to the power supply to turn on. If you think about how we turn on a > laptop or modern desktop computer, it's a button that you press > momentarily -- it doesn't save what "state" it's in but passes a brief > signal to the machine's power supply to power up. And that feature is also > why you can shut down the computer via a software command -- you're not > activating a physical switch. So even if you put a switch on the floor > that controls standard power via the cord that connects to the computer, > activating it won't turn on the machine unless that leetle button on the > case can then be activated. > > Putting that momentary switch on the floor or closer to the table edge or > wherever is slightly more complicated. Someone who is savvy with soldering > and dealing with wiring could extend the case wiring to a momentary floor > switch. With a motherboard manual I don't think it'd be that hard. > > Most electrical engineering type folks on a campus could probably rig > something pretty easily. I haven't seen a commercially available device > that will do this ... yet. If it exists, I'm sure someone will chime in. > > -*- Dan Comden danc@washington.edu > Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ > University of Washington UW Technology Services > > > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Gaeir Dietrich wrote: > >> Hi Shawn! >> >> Maybe I'm missing something, but if there is ability use the lower body, >> couldn't you just rig a knee or foot switch for her? >> >> ****************************************************** >> Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich >> High Tech Center Training Unit of the >> California Community Colleges >> De Anza College, Cupertino, CA >> www.htctu.net >> 408-996-6043 >> >> _____ >> >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >> Behalf Of Shawn Foster >> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:23 PM >> To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' >> Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? >> >> >> >> I have a student with limited mobility in her upper body and arms. She'd >> really like to find a remote control that can turn her computer off and on >> at home (she has an assistant while in classes or labs). I thought of using >> a simple remote switch, but that only works when the device can be left in >> the "on" position and the power source connected or disconnected (like a >> lamp). She uses a Mac, so using a scheduled start up/shut down sequence is >> certainly possible... but not quite what she's looking for. She'd like to >> minimize power usage when she's not using the computer, and her schedule >> isn't always predictable, so really a remote would be ideal. >> >> >> >> I've been running through the web and still haven't found what I'm looking >> for (with a nod to Bono)... >> >> >> >> Anyone know of such a thing? >> >> Thanks, all. >> >> >> >> >> >> Shawn Foster >> Assistive Technology Specialist >> >> Disability Services for Students >> Southern Oregon University >> V/TTY: (541)552-6213 >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From gdietrich at htctu.net Fri Apr 18 16:26:56 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? In-Reply-To: References: <4808AEE0.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu><006c01c8a1a3$ece0dd40$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <00a001c8a1ab$b17f7920$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Oops, I said "switch," but I wasn't using the term properly. I'm afraid I was thinking more low tech...mechanical engineering, rather than electrical. Tower on the floor, something strapped to the case that would hold a rubberized tip against the actual button and a bigger button hooked to that so that one could just lean on it with a knee or foot or whatever. Kind of like how a friend of mine who needed a hand control to use the brake in a vehicle would rig one with a C-clamp attached to the brake, PVC tubing extending from the clamp, and rubber bands to hold the tubing to the steering column. Sounds funky, worked great, allowed him to rent cars. Although, I have to say, I was always a bit surprised that the rental places never asked any questions... ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dan Comden Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:18 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? The problem with modern computers is that the on/off switch isn't really a switch that controls power like a light switch in the wall. It relays a signal to the power supply to turn on. If you think about how we turn on a laptop or modern desktop computer, it's a button that you press momentarily -- it doesn't save what "state" it's in but passes a brief signal to the machine's power supply to power up. And that feature is also why you can shut down the computer via a software command -- you're not activating a physical switch. So even if you put a switch on the floor that controls standard power via the cord that connects to the computer, activating it won't turn on the machine unless that leetle button on the case can then be activated. Putting that momentary switch on the floor or closer to the table edge or wherever is slightly more complicated. Someone who is savvy with soldering and dealing with wiring could extend the case wiring to a momentary floor switch. With a motherboard manual I don't think it'd be that hard. Most electrical engineering type folks on a campus could probably rig something pretty easily. I haven't seen a commercially available device that will do this ... yet. If it exists, I'm sure someone will chime in. -*- Dan Comden danc@washington.edu Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ University of Washington UW Technology Services On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Gaeir Dietrich wrote: > Hi Shawn! > > Maybe I'm missing something, but if there is ability use the lower body, > couldn't you just rig a knee or foot switch for her? > > ****************************************************** > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > High Tech Center Training Unit of the > California Community Colleges > De Anza College, Cupertino, CA > www.htctu.net > 408-996-6043 > > _____ > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Shawn Foster > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:23 PM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? > > > > I have a student with limited mobility in her upper body and arms. She'd > really like to find a remote control that can turn her computer off and on > at home (she has an assistant while in classes or labs). I thought of using > a simple remote switch, but that only works when the device can be left in > the "on" position and the power source connected or disconnected (like a > lamp). She uses a Mac, so using a scheduled start up/shut down sequence is > certainly possible... but not quite what she's looking for. She'd like to > minimize power usage when she's not using the computer, and her schedule > isn't always predictable, so really a remote would be ideal. > > > > I've been running through the web and still haven't found what I'm looking > for (with a nod to Bono)... > > > > Anyone know of such a thing? > > Thanks, all. > > > > > > Shawn Foster > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Disability Services for Students > Southern Oregon University > V/TTY: (541)552-6213 > > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From gdietrich at htctu.net Fri Apr 18 16:28:59 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? In-Reply-To: References: <4808AEE0.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu><006c01c8a1a3$ece0dd40$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <00a101c8a1ab$fb8276d0$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Don't you just love solutions like this!?! :-) What a great find on a Friday afternoon. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Doug Hayman Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:22 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? There is this product for PCs: http://www.minomech.com/Prod_ME_PJ.html Doug Hayman Technology Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 355670 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Dan Comden wrote: > The problem with modern computers is that the on/off switch isn't really a > switch that controls power like a light switch in the wall. It relays a > signal to the power supply to turn on. If you think about how we turn on a > laptop or modern desktop computer, it's a button that you press > momentarily -- it doesn't save what "state" it's in but passes a brief > signal to the machine's power supply to power up. And that feature is also > why you can shut down the computer via a software command -- you're not > activating a physical switch. So even if you put a switch on the floor > that controls standard power via the cord that connects to the computer, > activating it won't turn on the machine unless that leetle button on the > case can then be activated. > > Putting that momentary switch on the floor or closer to the table edge or > wherever is slightly more complicated. Someone who is savvy with soldering > and dealing with wiring could extend the case wiring to a momentary floor > switch. With a motherboard manual I don't think it'd be that hard. > > Most electrical engineering type folks on a campus could probably rig > something pretty easily. I haven't seen a commercially available device > that will do this ... yet. If it exists, I'm sure someone will chime in. > > -*- Dan Comden danc@washington.edu > Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ > University of Washington UW Technology Services > > > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Gaeir Dietrich wrote: > >> Hi Shawn! >> >> Maybe I'm missing something, but if there is ability use the lower body, >> couldn't you just rig a knee or foot switch for her? >> >> ****************************************************** >> Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich >> High Tech Center Training Unit of the >> California Community Colleges >> De Anza College, Cupertino, CA >> www.htctu.net >> 408-996-6043 >> >> _____ >> >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >> Behalf Of Shawn Foster >> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:23 PM >> To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' >> Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? >> >> >> >> I have a student with limited mobility in her upper body and arms. She'd >> really like to find a remote control that can turn her computer off and on >> at home (she has an assistant while in classes or labs). I thought of using >> a simple remote switch, but that only works when the device can be left in >> the "on" position and the power source connected or disconnected (like a >> lamp). She uses a Mac, so using a scheduled start up/shut down sequence is >> certainly possible... but not quite what she's looking for. She'd like to >> minimize power usage when she's not using the computer, and her schedule >> isn't always predictable, so really a remote would be ideal. >> >> >> >> I've been running through the web and still haven't found what I'm looking >> for (with a nod to Bono)... >> >> >> >> Anyone know of such a thing? >> >> Thanks, all. >> >> >> >> >> >> Shawn Foster >> Assistive Technology Specialist >> >> Disability Services for Students >> Southern Oregon University >> V/TTY: (541)552-6213 >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From danc at washington.edu Fri Apr 18 16:31:00 2008 From: danc at washington.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? In-Reply-To: References: <4808AEE0.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> <006c01c8a1a3$ece0dd40$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: I bow to Doug's superior web search skills. There's an image that shows the wires (the http://www.minomech.com/Prod_ME_PJ_det1.html page) marked "Power SW" which is what I envisioned needing lengthening outside the case to a momentary switch. Would probably work on a desktop Mac as well, with some fiddling. Just find where the case button connects to the motherboard and adapt it there. All these case switches are doing is temporarily (momentarily) connecting the two wires seen in the image to activate the power supply. For laptop systems ... additional bravery and model-specific case cracking skills required :) -*- Dan Comden danc@washington.edu Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ University of Washington UW Technology Services On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Doug Hayman wrote: > There is this product for PCs: > > http://www.minomech.com/Prod_ME_PJ.html From danc at washington.edu Fri Apr 18 16:44:29 2008 From: danc at washington.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? In-Reply-To: <00a001c8a1ab$b17f7920$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <4808AEE0.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu><006c01c8a1a3$ece0dd40$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> <00a001c8a1ab$b17f7920$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: Yes, your idea would work fine -- I like low tech. Would be necessary to make sure that whatever rubber band masterpiece is used doesn't push the button down all the time, as that would just put the computer into a reset state meaning it'd never start. The problem with many cases is that the power switch is in a very inconvenient location on the case. The Mac Mini springs to mind here. As a side note, for folks who are energy conscious -- this type of power button illustrates well why just turning off many electrical devices these days doesn't keep them from continuing to consume small amounts of power. You've turned it "off" but it's sitting there ready to be turned back on by one of these secondary switches and there is still power trickling into the power supply. Your television works this way, your DVD player, your computer, etc. In order to completely eliminate a device's power usage, one must physically cut the connection to electricity, either via unplugging it completely or using a 2nd switch such as a power strip. If one goes this route, an unintended consequence is that some of these devices have memories (my tv at home is like this) that lose all their information when you sever them from the grid. I love the story about the homebrew brake control! -*- Dan Comden danc@washington.edu Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ University of Washington UW Technology Services On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Gaeir Dietrich wrote: > Oops, I said "switch," but I wasn't using the term properly. I'm afraid I > was thinking more low tech...mechanical engineering, rather than electrical. > > > Tower on the floor, something strapped to the case that would hold a > rubberized tip against the actual button and a bigger button hooked to that > so that one could just lean on it with a knee or foot or whatever. > > Kind of like how a friend of mine who needed a hand control to use the brake > in a vehicle would rig one with a C-clamp attached to the brake, PVC tubing > extending from the clamp, and rubber bands to hold the tubing to the > steering column. Sounds funky, worked great, allowed him to rent cars. > > Although, I have to say, I was always a bit surprised that the rental places > never asked any questions... From FosterS at sou.edu Fri Apr 18 17:04:56 2008 From: FosterS at sou.edu (Shawn Foster) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? In-Reply-To: <00a001c8a1ab$b17f7920$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <4808AEE0.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu><006c01c8a1a3$ece0dd40$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> <00a001c8a1ab$b17f7920$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <4808D4B8.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> I should have been more specific, I think. She has brittle bone disease, and her lower extremities are even more limited than upper. I have been thinking along the low-tech lines, as well, Gaeir... was just hoping that someone knew of a remote gadget I wasn't able to find. The "cool" factor is important to this student. I looked through Instructables ( http://www.instructables.com/ ), too, and still didn't find anything that fit the bill. Darn it, somebody else besides me has to think that a remote control to turn on your computer is a good idea! If I can start my car with a remote, why can't my student start her computer the same way? Doug, the Power Jack looks very promising for PC users. I have another student this may be helpful for, so thanks for the lead! Sigh. Maybe I'll have some brilliant idea this weekend. sf Shawn Foster Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Services for Students Southern Oregon University V/TTY: (541)552-6213 >>> On 4/18/2008 at 4:26 PM, in message <00a001c8a1ab$b17f7920$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu>, "Gaeir Dietrich" wrote: Oops, I said "switch," but I wasn't using the term properly. I'm afraid I was thinking more low tech...mechanical engineering, rather than electrical. Tower on the floor, something strapped to the case that would hold a rubberized tip against the actual button and a bigger button hooked to that so that one could just lean on it with a knee or foot or whatever. Kind of like how a friend of mine who needed a hand control to use the brake in a vehicle would rig one with a C-clamp attached to the brake, PVC tubing extending from the clamp, and rubber bands to hold the tubing to the steering column. Sounds funky, worked great, allowed him to rent cars. Although, I have to say, I was always a bit surprised that the rental places never asked any questions... ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dan Comden Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:18 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? The problem with modern computers is that the on/off switch isn't really a switch that controls power like a light switch in the wall. It relays a signal to the power supply to turn on. If you think about how we turn on a laptop or modern desktop computer, it's a button that you press momentarily -- it doesn't save what "state" it's in but passes a brief signal to the machine's power supply to power up. And that feature is also why you can shut down the computer via a software command -- you're not activating a physical switch. So even if you put a switch on the floor that controls standard power via the cord that connects to the computer, activating it won't turn on the machine unless that leetle button on the case can then be activated. Putting that momentary switch on the floor or closer to the table edge or wherever is slightly more complicated. Someone who is savvy with soldering and dealing with wiring could extend the case wiring to a momentary floor switch. With a motherboard manual I don't think it'd be that hard. Most electrical engineering type folks on a campus could probably rig something pretty easily. I haven't seen a commercially available device that will do this ... yet. If it exists, I'm sure someone will chime in. -*- Dan Comdendanc@washington.edu Access Technology Labhttp://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ University of Washington UW Technology Services On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Gaeir Dietrich wrote: > Hi Shawn! > > Maybe I'm missing something, but if there is ability use the lower body, > couldn't you just rig a knee or foot switch for her? > > ****************************************************** > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > High Tech Center Training Unit of the > California Community Colleges > De Anza College, Cupertino, CA > www.htctu.net > 408-996-6043 > > _____ > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Shawn Foster > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:23 PM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? > > > > I have a student with limited mobility in her upper body and arms. She'd > really like to find a remote control that can turn her computer off and on > at home (she has an assistant while in classes or labs). I thought of using > a simple remote switch, but that only works when the device can be left in > the "on" position and the power source connected or disconnected (like a > lamp). She uses a Mac, so using a scheduled start up/shut down sequence is > certainly possible... but not quite what she's looking for. She'd like to > minimize power usage when she's not using the computer, and her schedule > isn't always predictable, so really a remote would be ideal. > > > > I've been running through the web and still haven't found what I'm looking > for (with a nod to Bono)... > > > > Anyone know of such a thing? > > Thanks, all. > > > > > > Shawn Foster > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Disability Services for Students > Southern Oregon University > V/TTY: (541)552-6213 > > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Fri Apr 18 19:32:55 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <479AE6BF0000B0C7@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Hi All, I too am fond of inventive mechanical things on the fly...like how I rigged up a left-footed gas pedal after losing the use of my right leg...Taped (I LOVE electrical tape!) a piece of PVC pipe cross-wise over the gas pedal. It ran under the brake pedal and with an elbow connection & a bit more pipe + a spring which angled against the floor board, I created something that worked fine. I did not realize at the time that there actually WAS a legitimate (and legal) left footed gas pedal available! I now have a "real" one (which makes me legal-er for driving). Smile. I love to hear the inventions we all come up with! What an inspiration you all are. Wink >-- Original Message -- >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:44:29 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) >From: Dan Comden >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >Subject: Re: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? >Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > >Yes, your idea would work fine -- I like low tech. Would be necessary to > >make sure that whatever rubber band masterpiece is used doesn't push the > >button down all the time, as that would just put the computer into a reset > >state meaning it'd never start. > >The problem with many cases is that the power switch is in a very >inconvenient location on the case. The Mac Mini springs to mind here. > >As a side note, for folks who are energy conscious -- this type of power > >button illustrates well why just turning off many electrical devices these > >days doesn't keep them from continuing to consume small amounts of power. > >You've turned it "off" but it's sitting there ready to be turned back on > >by one of these secondary switches and there is still power trickling into > >the power supply. Your television works this way, your DVD player, your >computer, etc. In order to completely eliminate a device's power usage, >one must physically cut the connection to electricity, either via >unplugging it completely or using a 2nd switch such as a power strip. If > >one goes this route, an unintended consequence is that some of these >devices have memories (my tv at home is like this) that lose all their >information when you sever them from the grid. > >I love the story about the homebrew brake control! > >-*- Dan Comden danc@washington.edu > Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ > University of Washington UW Technology Services > > >On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Gaeir Dietrich wrote: > >> Oops, I said "switch," but I wasn't using the term properly. I'm afraid >I >> was thinking more low tech...mechanical engineering, rather than electrical. >> >> >> Tower on the floor, something strapped to the case that would hold a >> rubberized tip against the actual button and a bigger button hooked to >that >> so that one could just lean on it with a knee or foot or whatever. >> >> Kind of like how a friend of mine who needed a hand control to use the >brake >> in a vehicle would rig one with a C-clamp attached to the brake, PVC tubing >> extending from the clamp, and rubber bands to hold the tubing to the >> steering column. Sounds funky, worked great, allowed him to rent cars. >> >> Although, I have to say, I was always a bit surprised that the rental places >> never asked any questions... > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From ea at emptech.info Sat Apr 19 01:40:32 2008 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? In-Reply-To: <00a001c8a1ab$b17f7920$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <4808AEE0.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu><006c01c8a1a3$ece0dd40$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> <00a001c8a1ab$b17f7920$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <002001c8a1f9$07e3aff0$17ab0fd0$@info> Ok this is what I found a few years ago and it is still on the EmpTech database - Tower Power http://www.acctinc.ca/?articleID=5 Not sure if that is what you want! Best wishes E.A. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: 19 April 2008 00:27 To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? Oops, I said "switch," but I wasn't using the term properly. I'm afraid I was thinking more low tech...mechanical engineering, rather than electrical. Tower on the floor, something strapped to the case that would hold a rubberized tip against the actual button and a bigger button hooked to that so that one could just lean on it with a knee or foot or whatever. Kind of like how a friend of mine who needed a hand control to use the brake in a vehicle would rig one with a C-clamp attached to the brake, PVC tubing extending from the clamp, and rubber bands to hold the tubing to the steering column. Sounds funky, worked great, allowed him to rent cars. Although, I have to say, I was always a bit surprised that the rental places never asked any questions... ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dan Comden Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:18 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? The problem with modern computers is that the on/off switch isn't really a switch that controls power like a light switch in the wall. It relays a signal to the power supply to turn on. If you think about how we turn on a laptop or modern desktop computer, it's a button that you press momentarily -- it doesn't save what "state" it's in but passes a brief signal to the machine's power supply to power up. And that feature is also why you can shut down the computer via a software command -- you're not activating a physical switch. So even if you put a switch on the floor that controls standard power via the cord that connects to the computer, activating it won't turn on the machine unless that leetle button on the case can then be activated. Putting that momentary switch on the floor or closer to the table edge or wherever is slightly more complicated. Someone who is savvy with soldering and dealing with wiring could extend the case wiring to a momentary floor switch. With a motherboard manual I don't think it'd be that hard. Most electrical engineering type folks on a campus could probably rig something pretty easily. I haven't seen a commercially available device that will do this ... yet. If it exists, I'm sure someone will chime in. -*- Dan Comden danc@washington.edu Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ University of Washington UW Technology Services On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Gaeir Dietrich wrote: > Hi Shawn! > > Maybe I'm missing something, but if there is ability use the lower body, > couldn't you just rig a knee or foot switch for her? > > ****************************************************** > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > High Tech Center Training Unit of the > California Community Colleges > De Anza College, Cupertino, CA > www.htctu.net > 408-996-6043 > > _____ > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Shawn Foster > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:23 PM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Remote for powering on computer? > > > > I have a student with limited mobility in her upper body and arms. She'd > really like to find a remote control that can turn her computer off and on > at home (she has an assistant while in classes or labs). I thought of using > a simple remote switch, but that only works when the device can be left in > the "on" position and the power source connected or disconnected (like a > lamp). She uses a Mac, so using a scheduled start up/shut down sequence is > certainly possible... but not quite what she's looking for. She'd like to > minimize power usage when she's not using the computer, and her schedule > isn't always predictable, so really a remote would be ideal. > > > > I've been running through the web and still haven't found what I'm looking > for (with a nod to Bono)... > > > > Anyone know of such a thing? > > Thanks, all. > > > > > > Shawn Foster > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Disability Services for Students > Southern Oregon University > V/TTY: (541)552-6213 > > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1386 - Release Date: 18/04/2008 17:24 From JWeier at stlcc.edu Mon Apr 21 08:59:05 2008 From: JWeier at stlcc.edu (Weier, James A.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Adaptive Technology Network Licenses and Multi-Campus Schools Message-ID: I have a question for anyone on the list-serve that purchases Assistive Software Network Licenses and has a College with multiple campuses. How do you handle the licensing in terms of using 1 central Application Server to dole out licenses when needed at each campus, or do you have an Application Server at each campus and purchase licenses separately at each campus depending on campus need. Which is more cost effective as well as management effective for you. Furthermore, I'm trying to get a perspective on cost savings using network versions of Assistive Software versus installing the software on each workstation manually where needed. I know there are substantial cost savings as well as easier management using a network version (server/client), but would still like some insight on this question too. St. Louis Community College comprises 4 campuses as well as 3 Education Centers and we were considering the best possible solution to handle network licensing and it's effect on TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) versus ROI (Return on Investment) in the short term as well as long term. Thank you to anyone and everyone who can give me any insight on these matters. James A. Weier Adaptive Tech. Specialist/Access Office St. Louis Community College 3400 Pershall Road Ferguson, MO. 63135 314-513-4162 (voice) 314-513-4876 (fax) jweier@stlcc.edu There are three basic types, the wills, the won'ts, and the can'ts. The wills accomplish everything, the won'ts oppose everything, and the can'ts won't try anything. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Tue Apr 22 13:55:34 2008 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (normajean.brand) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Course Management Systems... Extra time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fellow Athenians, I have been asked to collect comments, suggestions, responses from you and how you and your college handle extra time on quizzes, exams, any timed assignments in an online class. For instance, most of our students who meet certain criteria are accommodated with extended time up to time and ? and some with double time. This works fine for the traditional F2F classroom and on-site testing centers, but not online. The CMS we use is Blackboard. Blackboard does not allow, that we can find, for 1.5 time duration only increments of 1 hr, 2 hr, etc. Blackboard's answer to this is found in the instructor's help file: For users with special needs, such as students who use a screen reader, give them extra time or an unlimited amount of time to complete the assessment. (I'm sure you all have some idea of the accessibility issues with the various CMSs out there, including Blackboard.) The concern is that if the norm is up to time and ? but not available in the CMS and we allow double time or unlimited time are we over-accommodating? Discriminating against the other students in the same online class? Do we allow double time in an online class but only time and ? in the traditional F2F class? If the instructor has two or more students with accommodations, 2 with time and ? and 1 with double time, how is that handled? How are you handling this at your college? When I suggested allowing all the students in the online class the same amount of time, say double time, many of the professors met that suggestion with disdain. You don't want to know how they took the 'unlimited amount of time' suggestion! Thank you for your kind and thoughtful responses, ideas, etc... short of doing away with Blackboard (sigh). NJ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- NJ Brand Houston Community College-NW Technical Support and Innovation Center Assistive Technology Specialist/Sr. Lab Assistant Town and Country Square Campus MC 1379 Room RC13 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. Houston TX 77043 VM/Office: 713.718.5604 FAX: 713.718.5430 Email: normajean.brand@hccs.edu http://nwc.hccs.edu http://learning.nwc.hccs.edu/members/normajean.brand ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Tue Apr 22 14:12:57 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Course Management Systems... Extra time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <480E54D9.6090901@mcmail.maricopa.edu> Hi NormaJean et al ATHENites, Relay to the instructor to create a section of his class for the student(s) with disabilities and s/he can specify the extended amount of time for the online tests & assignments. Not too hard. Cutting & pasting info from one screen to another. On our Instructor Notification forms we indicate a time extension for online tests/assignments. If the instructor has any trouble, refer them to the help screen on creating a subset of students w/in Blackboard or WebCT. Hope this is helpful. Wink normajean.brand wrote: > > Fellow Athenians, > > I have been asked to collect comments, suggestions, responses from you > and how you and your college handle extra time on quizzes, exams, any > timed assignments in an online class. For instance, most of our > students who meet certain criteria are accommodated with extended time > up to time and ? and some with double time. This works fine for the > traditional F2F classroom and on-site testing centers, but not online. > The CMS we use is Blackboard. Blackboard does not allow, that we can > find, for 1.5 time duration only increments of 1 hr, 2 hr, etc. > Blackboard?s answer to this is found in the instructor?s help file: > For users with special needs, such as students who use a screen > reader, give them *_extra time or an unlimited_* amount of time to > complete the assessment. (I?m sure you all have some idea of the > accessibility issues with the various CMSs out there, including > Blackboard.) > > The concern is that if the norm is up to time and ? but not available > in the CMS and we allow double time or unlimited time are we > over-accommodating? Discriminating against the other students in the > same online class? Do we allow double time in an online class but only > time and ? in the traditional F2F class? If the instructor has two or > more students with accommodations, 2 with time and ? and 1 with double > time, how is that handled? > > How are you handling this at your college? When I suggested allowing > all the students in the online class the same amount of time, say > double time, many of the professors met that suggestion with disdain. > You don?t want to know how they took the ?unlimited amount of time? > suggestion! > > Thank you for your kind and thoughtful responses, ideas, etc? short of > doing away with Blackboard (sigh). > > NJ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *NJ Brand* > > Houston Community College-NW > > Technical Support and Innovation Center > > Assistive Technology Specialist/Sr. Lab Assistant > > Town and Country Square Campus > > MC 1379 Room RC13 > > 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. > > Houston TX 77043 > > *VM/Office: 713.718.5604 * > > *FAX: 713.718.5430 * > > *Email:** normajean.brand@hccs.edu * > > http://nwc.hccs.edu > > http://learning.nwc.hccs.edu/members/normajean.brand > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They have a whole page on the accessibility of the new site and it's compliance with ADA & 508 but a 3 day turnaround does not seem ADA/508 compliant. -Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From obriemic at hvcc.edu Wed Apr 23 05:39:21 2008 From: obriemic at hvcc.edu (Michael O'Brien) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility In-Reply-To: <006101c8a4c8$3cdab600$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <000001c8a53f$0e0f8540$b1176797@hvcc.edu> If these items need to be scanned, why not get a program such as Open Book, which converts the images to text, directly, rather than printing out the pages and re-scanning and converting them? This, of course, assumes JSTOR isn't doing its part to make its items truly accessible. Mike _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:29 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility Hello Folks: Has anyone else run into the problem of JSTOR no longer providing Tiff versions of their articles. You can download the pdf but it seems locked in the sense that it can't be read by JAWS (it's an image pdf), it's not tagged, and you can't run it through OmniPage. All you can do is print a hard copy and then scan it. You can request them to tag the document but they indicate this is a 3 day turnaround. This all seems like a major downgrade from past access. I sent an e-mail off to them (they don't list a phone number). They have a whole page on the accessibility of the new site and it's compliance with ADA & 508 but a 3 day turnaround does not seem ADA/508 compliant. -Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Wed Apr 23 06:47:23 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility Message-ID: <20080423074723.ADI86487@superman.int.colorado.edu> As I mentioned, the files are locked so you can't run them through OmniPage in electronic format. -Howard ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:39:21 -0400 >From: "Michael O'Brien" >Subject: Re: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility >To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > > If these items need to be scanned, why not get a > program such as Open Book, which converts the images > to text, directly, rather than printing out the > pages and re-scanning and converting them? This, of > course, assumes JSTOR isn't doing its part to make > its items truly accessible. > > Mike > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of > Howard Kramer > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:29 PM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education > Network' > Subject: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility > > Hello Folks: > > > > Has anyone else run into the problem of JSTOR no > longer providing Tiff versions of their articles. > You can download the pdf but it seems locked in the > sense that it can't be read by JAWS (it's an image > pdf), it's not tagged, and you can't run it through > OmniPage. All you can do is print a hard copy and > then scan it. You can request them to tag the > document but they indicate this is a 3 day > turnaround. This all seems like a major downgrade > from past access. > > > > I sent an e-mail off to them (they don't list a > phone number). They have a whole page on the > accessibility of the new site and it's compliance > with ADA & 508 but a 3 day turnaround does not seem > ADA/508 compliant. > > > > -Howard > > > > > > Howard Kramer > Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator > AT Conference Coordinator > Disability Services > CU-Boulder, 107 UCB > Boulder, Co 80309 > 303-492-8672 > > >________________ >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jbailey at uoregon.edu Wed Apr 23 07:16:32 2008 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility In-Reply-To: <20080423074723.ADI86487@superman.int.colorado.edu> References: <20080423074723.ADI86487@superman.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <1208960193.4061.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> If you can print them, you might try Kes or Wynn's virtual printers. - James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:47:23 -0600 (MDT), Howard Kramer wrote: > As I mentioned, the files are locked so you can't run them through OmniPage in electronic format. > > -Howard > > ---- Original message ---- > >Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:39:21 -0400 > >From: "Michael O'Brien" > >Subject: Re: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility > >To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > > > > If these items need to be scanned, why not get a > > program such as Open Book, which converts the images > > to text, directly, rather than printing out the > > pages and re-scanning and converting them? This, of > > course, assumes JSTOR isn't doing its part to make > > its items truly accessible. > > > > Mike > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of > > Howard Kramer > > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:29 PM > > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education > > Network' > > Subject: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility > > > > Hello Folks: > > > > > > > > Has anyone else run into the problem of JSTOR no > > longer providing Tiff versions of their articles. > > You can download the pdf but it seems locked in the > > sense that it can't be read by JAWS (it's an image > > pdf), it's not tagged, and you can't run it through > > OmniPage. All you can do is print a hard copy and > > then scan it. You can request them to tag the > > document but they indicate this is a 3 day > > turnaround. This all seems like a major downgrade > > from past access. > > > > > > > > I sent an e-mail off to them (they don't list a > > phone number). They have a whole page on the > > accessibility of the new site and it's compliance > > with ADA & 508 but a 3 day turnaround does not seem > > ADA/508 compliant. > > > > > > > > -Howard > > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Kramer > > Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator > > AT Conference Coordinator > > Disability Services > > CU-Boulder, 107 UCB > > Boulder, Co 80309 > > 303-492-8672 > > > > > >________________ > >_______________________________________________ > >Athen mailing list > >Athen@athenpro.org > >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From cbrown at ad.nmsu.edu Wed Apr 23 07:48:02 2008 From: cbrown at ad.nmsu.edu (Brown, Carol) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Secure Shell Alternative Message-ID: <978D21DCF54A3B49A0BEAB40E8917258030A327DC1@EXCHANGE-MBX-01.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu> I have a student who uses JAWS and is in a technical major (Information & Communication Technology). He wants to know if there is a program out there to send files between Linux and Windows, other than Secure Shell, that is more user friendly for students who are blind. Also, please share any information on how you are accommodating students with MAC computers. In particular, how many have Kurzweil 3000 for MAC and PC? Thanks. Carol Brown Assistive Technology Specialist Services for Students with Disabilities Rm. 244, Corbett Center MSC 4149 New Mexico State University P.O. Box 30001 Las Cruces, New Mexico 88003-8001 (505) 646-6840 Office (505) 646-5222 Fax (505) 646-1918 TTY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Wed Apr 23 08:05:20 2008 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (normajean.brand) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Course Management Systems... Extra time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you all for your thoughtful responses! It occurred to me after reading your responses that there may be something in the admin side of Blackboard that is causing the problem. So, that is where I will direct my next inquiries - to our admin. I will also make your suggestions to the faculty so they can do their part. Thank you again. ~NJ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hadi at uiuc.edu Wed Apr 23 08:11:58 2008 From: hadi at uiuc.edu (Hadi Rangin) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Secure Shell Alternative References: <978D21DCF54A3B49A0BEAB40E8917258030A327DC1@EXCHANGE-MBX-01.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu> Message-ID: <006201c8a554$60379370$0400a8c0@shalizar> 1. Use Samba to mount your Linux directories on your Windows machine if both Windows and Linux are on the same network. Note that Samba service should run on Linux server and you have to set the workgroup for both Windows and Samba on Linux to the same value. 2. Use WebDrive to mount your remote Linux home directory on your Windows machine as a local drive if your Windows and Linux server are on two different networks. WebDrive supports Webdav, SFTP, and a few more protocols. You can always use WebDrive even within a local network but due to cashing and synchronization, it is always slower than Samba. Hadi ----- Original Message ----- From: Brown, Carol To: athen@athenpro.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: [Athen] Secure Shell Alternative I have a student who uses JAWS and is in a technical major (Information & Communication Technology). He wants to know if there is a program out there to send files between Linux and Windows, other than Secure Shell, that is more user friendly for students who are blind. Also, please share any information on how you are accommodating students with MAC computers. In particular, how many have Kurzweil 3000 for MAC and PC? Thanks. Carol Brown Assistive Technology Specialist Services for Students with Disabilities Rm. 244, Corbett Center MSC 4149 New Mexico State University P.O. Box 30001 Las Cruces, New Mexico 88003-8001 (505) 646-6840 Office (505) 646-5222 Fax (505) 646-1918 TTY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From travis at travisroth.com Wed Apr 23 08:40:17 2008 From: travis at travisroth.com (Travis Roth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Secure Shell Alternative In-Reply-To: <006201c8a554$60379370$0400a8c0@shalizar> References: <978D21DCF54A3B49A0BEAB40E8917258030A327DC1@EXCHANGE-MBX-01.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu> <006201c8a554$60379370$0400a8c0@shalizar> Message-ID: <005c01c8a558$54892bc0$fd9b8340$@com> For a secure stand-alone program that runs on Windows check out WinSCP. http://winscp.net/eng/index.php Using Windows explorer to find files and then the "Send to" shortcut in the context menu is particularly useful. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Hadi Rangin Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:12 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Secure Shell Alternative 1. Use Samba to mount your Linux directories on your Windows machine if both Windows and Linux are on the same network. Note that Samba service should run on Linux server and you have to set the workgroup for both Windows and Samba on Linux to the same value. 2. Use WebDrive to mount your remote Linux home directory on your Windows machine as a local drive if your Windows and Linux server are on two different networks. WebDrive supports Webdav, SFTP, and a few more protocols. You can always use WebDrive even within a local network but due to cashing and synchronization, it is always slower than Samba. Hadi ----- Original Message ----- From: Brown, Carol To: athen@athenpro.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: [Athen] Secure Shell Alternative I have a student who uses JAWS and is in a technical major (Information & Communication Technology). He wants to know if there is a program out there to send files between Linux and Windows, other than Secure Shell, that is more user friendly for students who are blind. Also, please share any information on how you are accommodating students with MAC computers. In particular, how many have Kurzweil 3000 for MAC and PC? Thanks. Carol Brown Assistive Technology Specialist Services for Students with Disabilities Rm. 244, Corbett Center MSC 4149 New Mexico State University P.O. Box 30001 Las Cruces, New Mexico 88003-8001 (505) 646-6840 Office (505) 646-5222 Fax (505) 646-1918 TTY _____ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dabrus at purdue.edu Wed Apr 23 08:59:51 2008 From: dabrus at purdue.edu (Brusnighan, Dean A.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Course Management Systems... Extra time In-Reply-To: <480E54D9.6090901@mcmail.maricopa.edu> References: <480E54D9.6090901@mcmail.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <1E3DC2D62305E542B4F9CA6487E8730D0629E461@EXCH04.purdue.lcl> I agree with Wink. It's not difficult. NJ, I will send you a set of directions that we make available to faculty using "selective release" in Blackboard Vista 4 to set the criteria for extended time. Dean ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dean Brusnighan Information Technology at Purdue Young Hall 302 Wood Street West Lafayette, IN 47907-2108 Phone: 765-494-9082 dabrus@purdue.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:13 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Course Management Systems... Extra time Hi NormaJean et al ATHENites, Relay to the instructor to create a section of his class for the student(s) with disabilities and s/he can specify the extended amount of time for the online tests & assignments. Not too hard. Cutting & pasting info from one screen to another. On our Instructor Notification forms we indicate a time extension for online tests/assignments. If the instructor has any trouble, refer them to the help screen on creating a subset of students w/in Blackboard or WebCT. Hope this is helpful. Wink normajean.brand wrote: > > Fellow Athenians, > > I have been asked to collect comments, suggestions, responses from you > and how you and your college handle extra time on quizzes, exams, any > timed assignments in an online class. For instance, most of our > students who meet certain criteria are accommodated with extended time > up to time and ? and some with double time. This works fine for the > traditional F2F classroom and on-site testing centers, but not online. > The CMS we use is Blackboard. Blackboard does not allow, that we can > find, for 1.5 time duration only increments of 1 hr, 2 hr, etc. > Blackboard's answer to this is found in the instructor's help file: > For users with special needs, such as students who use a screen > reader, give them *_extra time or an unlimited_* amount of time to > complete the assessment. (I'm sure you all have some idea of the > accessibility issues with the various CMSs out there, including > Blackboard.) > > The concern is that if the norm is up to time and ? but not available > in the CMS and we allow double time or unlimited time are we > over-accommodating? Discriminating against the other students in the > same online class? Do we allow double time in an online class but only > time and ? in the traditional F2F class? If the instructor has two or > more students with accommodations, 2 with time and ? and 1 with double > time, how is that handled? > > How are you handling this at your college? When I suggested allowing > all the students in the online class the same amount of time, say > double time, many of the professors met that suggestion with disdain. > You don't want to know how they took the 'unlimited amount of time' > suggestion! > > Thank you for your kind and thoughtful responses, ideas, etc... short of > doing away with Blackboard (sigh). > > NJ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > *NJ Brand* > > Houston Community College-NW > > Technical Support and Innovation Center > > Assistive Technology Specialist/Sr. Lab Assistant > > Town and Country Square Campus > > MC 1379 Room RC13 > > 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. > > Houston TX 77043 > > *VM/Office: 713.718.5604 * > > *FAX: 713.718.5430 * > > *Email:** normajean.brand@hccs.edu * > > http://nwc.hccs.edu > > http://learning.nwc.hccs.edu/members/normajean.brand > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From obriemic at hvcc.edu Wed Apr 23 09:05:06 2008 From: obriemic at hvcc.edu (Michael O'Brien) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility In-Reply-To: <1208960193.4061.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <002901c8a55b$cbf09dd0$b1176797@hvcc.edu> Howard: So that means you can't even electronically import the immages directly, like a fax, for conversion to text? Mike -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:17 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility If you can print them, you might try Kes or Wynn's virtual printers. - James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:47:23 -0600 (MDT), Howard Kramer wrote: > As I mentioned, the files are locked so you can't run them through OmniPage in electronic format. > > -Howard > > ---- Original message ---- > >Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:39:21 -0400 > >From: "Michael O'Brien" > >Subject: Re: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility > >To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > > > > > > If these items need to be scanned, why not get a > > program such as Open Book, which converts the images > > to text, directly, rather than printing out the > > pages and re-scanning and converting them? This, of > > course, assumes JSTOR isn't doing its part to make > > its items truly accessible. > > > > Mike > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of > > Howard Kramer > > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:29 PM > > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education > > Network' > > Subject: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility > > > > Hello Folks: > > > > > > > > Has anyone else run into the problem of JSTOR no > > longer providing Tiff versions of their articles. > > You can download the pdf but it seems locked in the > > sense that it can't be read by JAWS (it's an image > > pdf), it's not tagged, and you can't run it through > > OmniPage. All you can do is print a hard copy and > > then scan it. You can request them to tag the > > document but they indicate this is a 3 day > > turnaround. This all seems like a major downgrade > > from past access. > > > > > > > > I sent an e-mail off to them (they don't list a > > phone number). They have a whole page on the > > accessibility of the new site and it's compliance > > with ADA & 508 but a 3 day turnaround does not seem > > ADA/508 compliant. > > > > > > > > -Howard > > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Kramer > > Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator > > AT Conference Coordinator > > Disability Services > > CU-Boulder, 107 UCB > > Boulder, Co 80309 > > 303-492-8672 > > > > > >________________ > >_______________________________________________ > >Athen mailing list > >Athen@athenpro.org > >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Wed Apr 23 09:12:03 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility Message-ID: <20080423101203.ADJ02827@superman.int.colorado.edu> Thanks James, I'll try that. -Howard ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:16:32 -0700 >From: "James Bailey" >Subject: Re: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > >If you can print them, you might try Kes or Wynn's virtual printers. - James > >-- >James Bailey >Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon >1299 University of Oregon >Eugene, OR 97403-1299 >Office: 541-346-1076 >jbailey@uoregon.edu > >On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:47:23 -0600 (MDT), Howard Kramer wrote: >> As I mentioned, the files are locked so you can't run them through OmniPage in electronic format. >> >> -Howard >> >> ---- Original message ---- >> >Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:39:21 -0400 >> >From: "Michael O'Brien" >> >Subject: Re: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility >> >To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" >> > >> > If these items need to be scanned, why not get a >> > program such as Open Book, which converts the images >> > to text, directly, rather than printing out the >> > pages and re-scanning and converting them? This, of >> > course, assumes JSTOR isn't doing its part to make >> > its items truly accessible. >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org >> > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of >> > Howard Kramer >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:29 PM >> > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education >> > Network' >> > Subject: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility >> > >> > Hello Folks: >> > >> > >> > >> > Has anyone else run into the problem of JSTOR no >> > longer providing Tiff versions of their articles. >> > You can download the pdf but it seems locked in the >> > sense that it can't be read by JAWS (it's an image >> > pdf), it's not tagged, and you can't run it through >> > OmniPage. All you can do is print a hard copy and >> > then scan it. You can request them to tag the >> > document but they indicate this is a 3 day >> > turnaround. This all seems like a major downgrade >> > from past access. >> > >> > >> > >> > I sent an e-mail off to them (they don't list a >> > phone number). They have a whole page on the >> > accessibility of the new site and it's compliance >> > with ADA & 508 but a 3 day turnaround does not seem >> > ADA/508 compliant. >> > >> > >> > >> > -Howard >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Howard Kramer >> > Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator >> > AT Conference Coordinator >> > Disability Services >> > CU-Boulder, 107 UCB >> > Boulder, Co 80309 >> > 303-492-8672 >> > >> > >> >________________ >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Athen mailing list >> >Athen@athenpro.org >> >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From danc at washington.edu Wed Apr 23 09:12:30 2008 From: danc at washington.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Secure Shell Alternative In-Reply-To: <978D21DCF54A3B49A0BEAB40E8917258030A327DC1@EXCHANGE-MBX-01.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu> References: <978D21DCF54A3B49A0BEAB40E8917258030A327DC1@EXCHANGE-MBX-01.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu> Message-ID: We use SSH Tectia (www.ssh.com). Not the best but if one learns the quirks it seems fairly screen reader accessible. Right now I don't have any students requesting accommodations for the Mac world. There are some staff but it's been years since I've had a student looking for access on that platform. Right now we provide no AT products for that platform due to the lack of interest on the part of students over the years. That said, I also don't have any students who regularly use the higher end reading/OCR packages. They all want to use cheap/free solutions like NaturalReader. We have WYNN and K-3000 but they are rarely used. -*- Dan Comden danc@washington.edu Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ University of Washington UW Technology Services On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Brown, Carol wrote: > I have a student who uses JAWS and is in a technical major (Information & Communication Technology). He wants to know if there is a program out there to send files between Linux and Windows, other than Secure Shell, that is more user friendly for students who are blind. > > Also, please share any information on how you are accommodating students > with MAC computers. In particular, how many have Kurzweil 3000 for MAC > and PC? Thanks. From jongund at uiuc.edu Wed Apr 23 09:20:17 2008 From: jongund at uiuc.edu (Jon Gunderson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] ANNOUNCEMENT: 2 Day Universal Design Workshop on May 21st and 22nd at University of Illinois Message-ID: <20080423112017.BEY01296@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu> I would appreciate it if you could pass on this workshop information to people you think would benefit from this workshop. This includes web developers and people interested in a more technical understanding of web accessibility. Overview of Workshop Learn how to design universally accessible web resources to comply with Section 508 [1] and W3C Web Content Accessibility Guidelines [2] for people with disabilities. This is a hands on workshop and participants will build accessible web pages using web standards techniques. Dates: May 21st & 22nd, 2008 Location: University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign Instructor: Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Cost: $345 ($245 for employees of the State of Illinois and Higher Education Institutions in Illinois) More information and registration at: http://courses.cita.uiuc.edu/2day/ References [1] Section 508 Information Technology Accessibility Standards http://www.access-board.gov/508.htm [2] W3C Web Content Accessibility Guidelines http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility Disability Resources and Educational Services Rehabilitation Education Center Room 86 1207 S. Oak Street Champaign, Illinois 61821 Voice: (217) 244-5870 WWW: http://www.cita.uiuc.edu/ WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/ From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Wed Apr 23 09:21:36 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility In-Reply-To: <002901c8a55b$cbf09dd0$b1176797@hvcc.edu> References: <1208960193.4061.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> <002901c8a55b$cbf09dd0$b1176797@hvcc.edu> Message-ID: <000901c8a55e$1a3b6c70$58de15ac@ad.colorado.edu> Hi Mike, It won't import through ocr software such as OmniPage. I haven't tried James' suggestion yet. Perhaps that will be a workaround. Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Michael O'Brien Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:05 AM To: 'James Bailey'; 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility Howard: So that means you can't even electronically import the immages directly, like a fax, for conversion to text? Mike -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:17 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility If you can print them, you might try Kes or Wynn's virtual printers. - James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:47:23 -0600 (MDT), Howard Kramer wrote: > As I mentioned, the files are locked so you can't run them through OmniPage in electronic format. > > -Howard > > ---- Original message ---- > >Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:39:21 -0400 > >From: "Michael O'Brien" > >Subject: Re: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility > >To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > > > > > > If these items need to be scanned, why not get a > > program such as Open Book, which converts the images > > to text, directly, rather than printing out the > > pages and re-scanning and converting them? This, of > > course, assumes JSTOR isn't doing its part to make > > its items truly accessible. > > > > Mike > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of > > Howard Kramer > > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:29 PM > > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education > > Network' > > Subject: [Athen] JSTOR inaccessibility > > > > Hello Folks: > > > > > > > > Has anyone else run into the problem of JSTOR no > > longer providing Tiff versions of their articles. > > You can download the pdf but it seems locked in the > > sense that it can't be read by JAWS (it's an image > > pdf), it's not tagged, and you can't run it through > > OmniPage. All you can do is print a hard copy and > > then scan it. You can request them to tag the > > document but they indicate this is a 3 day > > turnaround. This all seems like a major downgrade > > from past access. > > > > > > > > I sent an e-mail off to them (they don't list a > > phone number). They have a whole page on the > > accessibility of the new site and it's compliance > > with ADA & 508 but a 3 day turnaround does not seem > > ADA/508 compliant. > > > > > > > > -Howard > > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Kramer > > Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator > > AT Conference Coordinator > > Disability Services > > CU-Boulder, 107 UCB > > Boulder, Co 80309 > > 303-492-8672 > > > > > >________________ > >_______________________________________________ > >Athen mailing list > >Athen@athenpro.org > >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Wed Apr 23 11:20:45 2008 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (normajean.brand) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Course Management Systems... Extra time In-Reply-To: <1E3DC2D62305E542B4F9CA6487E8730D0629E461@EXCH04.purdue.lcl> References: <480E54D9.6090901@mcmail.maricopa.edu> <1E3DC2D62305E542B4F9CA6487E8730D0629E461@EXCH04.purdue.lcl> Message-ID: Thank you Dean! -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Brusnighan, Dean A. Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:00 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Course Management Systems... Extra time I agree with Wink. It's not difficult. NJ, I will send you a set of directions that we make available to faculty using "selective release" in Blackboard Vista 4 to set the criteria for extended time. Dean ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dean Brusnighan Information Technology at Purdue Young Hall 302 Wood Street West Lafayette, IN 47907-2108 Phone: 765-494-9082 dabrus@purdue.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:13 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Course Management Systems... Extra time Hi NormaJean et al ATHENites, Relay to the instructor to create a section of his class for the student(s) with disabilities and s/he can specify the extended amount of time for the online tests & assignments. Not too hard. Cutting & pasting info from one screen to another. On our Instructor Notification forms we indicate a time extension for online tests/assignments. If the instructor has any trouble, refer them to the help screen on creating a subset of students w/in Blackboard or WebCT. Hope this is helpful. Wink normajean.brand wrote: > > Fellow Athenians, > > I have been asked to collect comments, suggestions, responses from you > and how you and your college handle extra time on quizzes, exams, any > timed assignments in an online class. For instance, most of our > students who meet certain criteria are accommodated with extended time > up to time and ? and some with double time. This works fine for the > traditional F2F classroom and on-site testing centers, but not online. > The CMS we use is Blackboard. Blackboard does not allow, that we can > find, for 1.5 time duration only increments of 1 hr, 2 hr, etc. > Blackboard's answer to this is found in the instructor's help file: > For users with special needs, such as students who use a screen > reader, give them *_extra time or an unlimited_* amount of time to > complete the assessment. (I'm sure you all have some idea of the > accessibility issues with the various CMSs out there, including > Blackboard.) > > The concern is that if the norm is up to time and ? but not available > in the CMS and we allow double time or unlimited time are we > over-accommodating? Discriminating against the other students in the > same online class? Do we allow double time in an online class but only > time and ? in the traditional F2F class? If the instructor has two or > more students with accommodations, 2 with time and ? and 1 with double > time, how is that handled? > > How are you handling this at your college? When I suggested allowing > all the students in the online class the same amount of time, say > double time, many of the professors met that suggestion with disdain. > You don't want to know how they took the 'unlimited amount of time' > suggestion! > > Thank you for your kind and thoughtful responses, ideas, etc... short of > doing away with Blackboard (sigh). > > NJ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > *NJ Brand* > > Houston Community College-NW > > Technical Support and Innovation Center > > Assistive Technology Specialist/Sr. Lab Assistant > > Town and Country Square Campus > > MC 1379 Room RC13 > > 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. > > Houston TX 77043 > > *VM/Office: 713.718.5604 * > > *FAX: 713.718.5430 * > > *Email:** normajean.brand@hccs.edu * > > http://nwc.hccs.edu > > http://learning.nwc.hccs.edu/members/normajean.brand > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Wed Apr 23 11:55:28 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessibility of constant contact Message-ID: <009001c8a573$990b8430$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> I know the subject of survey accessibility has come up before. Has anyone commented on Constant Contact. I just tested it and it seems usable with JAWS if not optimal. Anyone else have any opinion/experience with this. Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tft at u.washington.edu Wed Apr 23 12:11:02 2008 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Course Management Systems... Extra time In-Reply-To: <1E3DC2D62305E542B4F9CA6487E8730D0629E461@EXCH04.purdue.lcl> Message-ID: <200804231911.m3NJB7iP009761@smtp.washington.edu> Hi Dean, Do you mind posting the directions to the list? Or better yet, post them to the ATHEN wiki somewhere on or linked from the Blackboard/WebCT page: http://www.athenpro.org/wiki/Blackboard/WebCT There isn't really a place for this sort of information on that page yet, but feel free (anyone) to create space. Maybe a new H2-level heading "Accessibility Procedures and Workarounds" or something similar is in order. In fact, if others have similar accessibility solutions related to Blackboard or any other product, please consider using the ATHEN wiki to document them. The wiki has potential to serve as a clearing house for information and solutions related to the IT products we all have daily questions about, but in order to reach its potential we all need to spend a little time populating it with the solutions we've found. Thanks! Terry Terry Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Brusnighan, Dean A. > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:00 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Course Management Systems... Extra time > > I agree with Wink. It's not difficult. NJ, I will send you a > set of directions that we make available to faculty using > "selective release" in Blackboard Vista 4 to set the criteria > for extended time. > > Dean > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dean Brusnighan > Information Technology at Purdue > Young Hall > 302 Wood Street > West Lafayette, IN 47907-2108 > Phone: 765-494-9082 > dabrus@purdue.edu > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink Harner > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:13 PM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Course Management Systems... Extra time > > Hi NormaJean et al ATHENites, > > Relay to the instructor to create a section of his class for the > student(s) with disabilities and s/he can specify the > extended amount of time for the online tests & assignments. > Not too hard. Cutting & pasting info from one screen to > another. On our Instructor Notification forms we indicate a > time extension for online tests/assignments. > > If the instructor has any trouble, refer them to the help > screen on creating a subset of students w/in Blackboard or WebCT. > > Hope this is helpful. > > Wink > > > normajean.brand wrote: > > > > Fellow Athenians, > > > > I have been asked to collect comments, suggestions, > responses from you > > and how you and your college handle extra time on quizzes, > exams, any > > timed assignments in an online class. For instance, most of our > > students who meet certain criteria are accommodated with > extended time > > up to time and ? and some with double time. This works fine for the > > traditional F2F classroom and on-site testing centers, but > not online. > > The CMS we use is Blackboard. Blackboard does not allow, > that we can > > find, for 1.5 time duration only increments of 1 hr, 2 hr, etc. > > Blackboard's answer to this is found in the instructor's help file: > > For users with special needs, such as students who use a screen > > reader, give them *_extra time or an unlimited_* amount of time to > > complete the assessment. (I'm sure you all have some idea of the > > accessibility issues with the various CMSs out there, including > > Blackboard.) > > > > The concern is that if the norm is up to time and ? but not > available > > in the CMS and we allow double time or unlimited time are we > > over-accommodating? Discriminating against the other > students in the > > same online class? Do we allow double time in an online > class but only > > time and ? in the traditional F2F class? If the instructor > has two or > > more students with accommodations, 2 with time and ? and 1 > with double > > time, how is that handled? > > > > How are you handling this at your college? When I suggested > allowing > > all the students in the online class the same amount of time, say > > double time, many of the professors met that suggestion > with disdain. > > You don't want to know how they took the 'unlimited amount of time' > > suggestion! > > > > Thank you for your kind and thoughtful responses, ideas, > etc... short > > of doing away with Blackboard (sigh). > > > > NJ > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > > > *NJ Brand* > > > > Houston Community College-NW > > > > Technical Support and Innovation Center > > > > Assistive Technology Specialist/Sr. Lab Assistant > > > > Town and Country Square Campus > > > > MC 1379 Room RC13 > > > > 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. > > > > Houston TX 77043 > > > > *VM/Office: 713.718.5604 * > > > > *FAX: 713.718.5430 * > > > > *Email:** normajean.brand@hccs.edu > * > > > > http://nwc.hccs.edu > > > > http://learning.nwc.hccs.edu/members/normajean.brand > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From obriemic at hvcc.edu Thu Apr 24 07:31:33 2008 From: obriemic at hvcc.edu (Michael O'Brien) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessibility of constant contact Message-ID: <001201c8a617$e514e6b0$b1176797@hvcc.edu> Howard: I may have used the survey portion of Constant Contact in the past, though I can't remember for sure. However, I do know the e-mail notification portion of it our local PTV station uses is quite accessible. Mike _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:55 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] accessibility of constant contact I know the subject of survey accessibility has come up before. Has anyone commented on Constant Contact. I just tested it and it seems usable with JAWS if not optimal. Anyone else have any opinion/experience with this. Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Sat Apr 26 10:49:42 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Webinar: Mass Production of Scanned Books for Students with disabilities Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080426104530.042eb870@pop.gmail.com> EASI (Equal Access to Software and Information) public 2-part Webinar series Two part FREE Webinar series Describing Mass Production of E-text at Cal State Fullerton May 1 - 15 2PM EASTERN (New York) time. Presenters: Jeff Senge and Marc Trinh, Cal State-Fullerton CSU Fullerton has developed a detailed step-by-step process starting with the student's registration for class and resulting in the timely delivery of the class text in an alternate format usually ready for the beginning of each class. This 2-part presentation will describe how it interfaces with the college registration process, with the professor's book selection and also interfaces with the bookstore. This highly effective process has been developed because it brings some benefits to all the players at each step along the way. The presentation will also describe the details and the mechanics of scanning the book, proofing the text, adding images and the final delivery to the waiting student. Save a seat for yourself at both presentations by registering now at: http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norm Coombs CEO EASI From ron at ahead.org Mon Apr 28 06:48:15 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Ohio E-Book Bill (HB 535) Message-ID: <00db01c8a936$833cd7f0$89b687d0$@org> Good morning all, Here is an interesting piece of legislation that is being proposed in Ohio. I thought I would share Scott's analysis with you. Ron Stewart From: Lissner, Scott [mailto:Lissner.2@osu.edu] Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:53 PM To: GCPDall@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ohio E-Book Bill (HB 535) Earlier this week I sent some of you a quick note concerning the proposed Ohio E-book Bill. I have had a chance to recover from the conference, catch up in the office and mull over HB 535. Time for reflection has not reduced my concerns but hopefully it has improved my coherence. Hear are my thoughts, feel free to build on them or share them. On April 14th Representative Matt Lundy and 21 cosponsors introduced Ohio House Bill 535 which would require Chancellor of the Ohio Board of Regents to create the E-Book Higher Education Task Force and to implement E-Book Programs at all state institutions of higher education based on those recommendations. The bill is assigned to Education Committee; no hearings, analysis or votes are listed on the General Assembly's web site at this time (4/25). This Bill has the potential for a positive impact for all of Ohio Higher Education but I want to underscore the significant implications for our student's and faculty with disabilities. I have included a copy of HB 535 as well as a relevant section of pending federal legislation (H.R. 4137, The College Opportunity and Affordability Act of 2008) below my signature block. Through the thoughtful use of technology House Bill 535 is an attempt to bring down the cost of text books to our students. Reducing the cost of text books is a worthwhile goal but House Bill 535 is also an opportunity to improve access to higher education by seamlessly meeting our obligations to students and faculty with disabilities while saving considerable state dollars. Making a single textbook accessible requires that it be purchased, scanned as an image, converted into an accessible text format, edited and then distributed to students while protecting publisher's copyrights. Depending on a number of factors this can take between 75-250 hours of labor for a college to make each text accessible to a student with a disability . Some electronic book formats are directly accessible to students with disabilities and would eliminate this process entirely; other formats would actually add the expense and initial step of printing out a copy to scan because they are incompatible with assistive technology. Currently at The Ohio State University where I work we are converting textbooks for about two hundred courses a Quarter for students with disabilities; that is potentially between 45,000 and 150,000 hours devoted to accessible textbook production. This same process and expense is duplicated at all of the colleges in the State. Perhaps more important than the expense is the fact that it takes additional time to get convert materials putting the students at an educational disadvantage. A formal E-Book Program at the institutional or State level provides an opportunity to eliminate this disadvantage and raises our compliance obligations to provide integrated and timely access. I am concerned that the current version of House Bill 535 does not address the need for e-books to be accessible to our students with disabilities. House Bill 535's current definition of e-book is broad and includes formats incompatible with the technology, used by Ohio students who are blind, dyslexic or have other impairments impacting their use of print and visually oriented digital text. Assistive technology that is often provided to individuals by the Ohio Bureau of Vocational Rehabilitation and placed in libraries and labs by colleges and universities. Given the 22 sponsors for House Bill 535 I am confident that accessibility was one of their concerns. It is likely in an effort to address broader needs and take a universal approach details concerning advocacy fell out of the language of the bill. I know I would be more confident that the outcome if House Bill 535 was amended to explicitly address access. The pending federal legislation is focused only on access and is likely to take three to five years to impact Ohio colleges and universities. However, its language (provided below) suggests a number of ways Ohio's House Bill 535 could be improved. An additional section along the lines of: "E-Book Higher Education Task Force recommendations and implementation of E-Book Programs at any State Institution of Higher Education must assure the availability of accessible text for students with documented disabilities impacting the use of print materials. Accessible text formats must be available for purchase at the same time frame as all other E-Book products. Preference will be given to recommendations and proposals that accomplish the timely provision of accessible text through an integrated product that is directly accessible to individuals with print based disabilities rather than through the provision of an accessible alternative in the same time frame." Additionally a requirement that the E-Book Higher Education Task Force's appointments include appropriate representation for students with disabilities in Higher Education. L. Scott Lissner _____ As Introduced 127th General Assembly Regular Session 2007-2008 H. B. No. 535 Representatives Lundy, Hite Cosponsors: Representatives Lesson, Fende, Dodd, McGregor, J., Huffman, Webster, Slesnick, Okey, Hagan, R., Peterson, Sears, Adams, Williams, S., Ujvagi, Collier, Brown, Goyal, Yuko, Luckie, Otterman, J., Williams, B. _____ A BILL To enact section 3333.29 of the Revised Code to create the E-Book Higher Education Task Force and to require the Chancellor of the Ohio Board of Regents to implement e-book programs at all state institutions of higher education. BE IT ENACTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF OHIO: Section 1. That section 3333.29 of the Revised Code be enacted to read as follows: Sec. 3333.29. (A) As used in this section: (1) "E-book" means computer software, interactive videodisc, magnetic media, optical media, computer courseware, on-line service, electronic medium, or other means of conveying information that is the digital media equivalent of a printed book. (2) "State institution of higher education" has the same meaning as in section 3345.011 of the Revised Code. (B)(1) There is hereby created the e-book higher education task force consisting of five members. Within thirty days after the effective date of this section, the chancellor of the Ohio board of regents shall appoint members of the public to the task force. The chancellor shall provide administrative support for the task force. (2) The task force shall study and make recommendations on implementing e-book programs at state institutions of higher education. By April 1, 2009, the task force shall report its findings to the chancellor, the governor, the speaker of the house of representatives, the president of the senate, the minority leaders of the house of representatives and the senate, the chairpersons and ranking minority members of the standing committees of the house of representatives and the senate that deal with the state budget, and the chairpersons and ranking minority members of the standing committees of the house of representatives and the senate committees that deal with education. (C) Upon receiving the initial report from the task force, the chancellor shall begin to implement e-book programs at all state institutions of higher education, including negotiating agreements with publishing companies requiring companies to offer electronic versions, in the form of e-books, of printed books the companies sell for use by students of state institutions of higher education. The chancellor shall implement e-book programs at all state institutions of higher education by July 1, 2009. (D) The task force shall reconvene one year after the e-book programs are implemented to evaluate the programs and report recommendations for possible improvements. The task force shall cease to exist after reporting its recommendations under this division. PENDING FEDERAL LEGISLATION H.R.4137 College Opportunity and Affordability Act of 2008 (Referred to Senate Committee after being Received from House) http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.4137 `SEC. 766A. ESTABLISHMENT OF ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ACCESSIBLE INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS IN POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES. `(a) Establishment- `(1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall establish a commission to be known as the Advisory Commission on Accessible Instructional Materials in Postsecondary Education for Students with Disabilities, in this subpart referred to as the `Commission'. `(2) MEMBERSHIP- `(A) The Commission shall include one representative of each of the following: `(i) Department of Education Office of Postsecondary Education. `(ii) Department of Education Office of Special Education and Rehabilitative Services. `(iii) Department of Education Office for Civil Rights. `(iv) Library of Congress National Digital Information and Infrastructure Preservation Program Copyright Working Group. `(v) Association on Higher Education and Disability. `(vi) Association of American Publishers. `(vii) Association of American University Presses. `(viii) National Association of College Stores. `(ix) National Council on Disability. `(B) The Commission shall be composed of at least one but not more than two representatives, as appointed by the Secretary, of each of the following: `(i) Staff from institutions of higher education with demonstrated experience teaching or supporting students with print disabilities, representing each of the following: `(I) Large public institution of higher education. `(II) Small public institution of higher education. `(III) Large private institution of higher education. `(IV) Small private institution of higher education. `(V) Large community college. `(VI) Small community college. `(ii) Producers of materials in specialized formats, including each of the following: `(I) Braille. `(II) Audio or synthesized speech. `(III) Digital media. `(iii) Developers of accessibility and publishing software and supporting technologies. `(iv) National organizations serving individuals with visual impairments that have demonstrated experience in technology evaluation research, academic publishing, production of material in accessible formats, and educational methodologies for such for individuals. `(v) Postsecondary students with visual impairment. `(vi) Postsecondary students with dyslexia or other learning disabilities related to reading. `(vii) Attorneys with expertise in copyright law. `(C) The Commission shall include at least two, but not more than three, representatives as appointed by the Secretary, of national membership organizations representing individuals with print disabilities, including each of the following: `(i) Individuals with visual impairments. `(ii) Individuals with learning disabilities related to reading. `(D) The appointments of the members of the Commission shall be made not later than 45 days after the date of enactment of the College Opportunity and Affordability Act of 2008. `(3) PERIOD OF APPOINTMENT; VACANCIES- Members shall be appointed for the life of the Commission. Any vacancy in the Commission shall not affect its powers, but shall be filled in the same manner as the original appointment. `(4) INITIAL MEETING- Not later than 30 days after the date on which all members of the Commission have been appointed, the Commission shall hold the Commission's first meeting. `(5) MEETINGS- The Commission shall meet at the call of the Chairperson. Meetings shall be publicly announced in advance and open to the public. `(6) QUORUM- A majority of the members of the Commission shall constitute a quorum, but a lesser number of members may hold hearings. `(7) CHAIRPERSON AND VICE CHAIRPERSON- The Commission shall select a chairperson and vice chairperson from among the members of the Commission. `(b) Duties of the Commission- `(1) STUDY- `(A) IN GENERAL- The Commission shall conduct a thorough study to assess the barriers, systemic issues, and technical solutions available which may affect or improve the timely delivery and quality of accessible instructional materials for postsecondary students, faculty, and staff with print disabilities, and make recommendations related to the development of a comprehensive approach that will ensure that postsecondary students with print disabilities can access instructional materials in specialized formats in a timeframe comparable to the availability of standard instructional materials for students without disabilities. `(B) EXISTING INFORMATION- To the extent practicable, in carrying out the study under this paragraph, the Commission shall identify and use existing research, recommendations, and information from-- `(i) the Model Demonstration Programs to Support Improved Access to Postsecondary Instructional Materials for Students with Print Disabilities, as described in section 766B; `(ii) the Advisory Council and the Technical Assistance and Development Centers of the National Instructional Materials Access Center; `(iii) the Library of Congress National Digital Information and Infrastructure Preservation Program Copyright Working Group; `(iv) the Association of Higher Education and Disabilities E-Text Solutions Working Group; `(v) the Recording for the Blind and Dyslexic's Technology Advisory Committee; `(vi) the Association of American Publishers Higher Education Division's Critical Issues Task Force; and `(vii) other existing research related to the creation and distribution of accessible instructional materials for students with print disabilities. `(C) RECOMMENDATIONS- The Commission shall develop recommendations to be used to inform Federal regulation and legislation, to identify best practices for systems of creating, collecting, maintaining, processing, and disseminating materials in specialized formats to eligible students, faculty, and staff while providing adequate copyright protections. In developing such recommendations, the Commission shall consider-- `(i) how to ensure that students with print disabilities may obtain instructional materials in accessible formats within a timeframe comparable to the availability of materials for students without disabilities; `(ii) the feasibility and technical parameters of establishing national standardized electronic file formats such as, but not limited to, the National Instructional Materials Accessibility Standard as defined in section 674(e)(3)(B) of the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, to be provided by publishers of instructional materials to producers of specialized formats, institutions of higher education, and eligible students; `(iii) the feasibility of the establishment of a national clearinghouse, repository, or file-sharing network for electronic files in specialized formats and files used in producing instructional materials in specialized formats, and a list of possible entities qualified to administer such a clearinghouse, repository, or network; `(iv) the feasibility of including such a national clearinghouse, repository, or file-sharing network in the duties of the Center described in section 766; `(v) market-based solutions involving collaborations between publishers of instructional materials, producers of specialized formats, and institutions of higher education, including-- `(I) barriers and opportunities to market entry; `(II) unique concerns affecting university presses, small publishers, and solutions incorporating such works into a shared system; and `(III) solutions utilizing universal design; `(vi) solutions for low-incidence, high-cost requests for materials in specialized formats; and `(vii) definitions of instructional materials, authorized entities, and eligible students. `(2) REPORT- Not later than 24 months after the first meeting, the Commission shall submit a report to the Secretary and to Congress that shall contain a detailed statement of the findings and conclusions of the Commission resulting from the study under subsection (a), together with the Commission's recommendations for such legislation and administrative actions as the Commission considers to be appropriate to implement the development of a comprehensive approach that will ensure that postsecondary students with print disabilities can access instructional materials in specialized formats in a timeframe comparable to the availability of standard instructional materials for students without disabilities. `(3) FACILITATION OF EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION- In carrying out the study under subsection (a), the Commission shall, to the extent practicable, facilitate the exchange of information concerning the issues that are the subject of the study among-- `(A) officials of the Federal Government; `(B) educators from Federal, State, and local institutions of higher education and secondary schools; `(C) publishers of instructional materials; `(D) producers of materials in specialized formats; `(E) representatives from the community of individuals with print disabilities; and `(F) participants in the Model Demonstration Programs to Support Improved Access to Postsecondary Instructional Materials for Students with Print Disabilities, as described in section 766B. `(c) Commission Personnel Matters- `(1) COMPENSATION OF MEMBERS- Each member of the Commission who is not an officer or employee of the Federal Government shall serve without compensation. All members of the Commission who are officers or employees of the United States shall serve without compensation in addition to that received for their services as officers or employees of the United States. `(2) TRAVEL EXPENSES- The members of the Commission shall be allowed travel expenses, including per diem in lieu of subsistence, at rates authorized for employees of agencies under subchapter I of chapter 57 of title 5, United States Code, while away from their homes or regular places of business in the performance of services for the Commission. `(3) STAFF- `(A) IN GENERAL- The Chairperson of the Commission may, without regard to the civil service laws and regulations, appoint and terminate an executive director and such other additional personnel as may be necessary to enable the Commission to perform the Commission's duties. The employment of an executive director shall be subject to confirmation by the Commission. `(B) COMPENSATION- The Chairperson of the Commission may fix the compensation of the executive director and other personnel without regard to the provisions of chapter 51 and subchapter III of chapter 53 of title 5, United States Code, relating to classification of positions and General Schedule pay rates, except that the rate of pay for the executive director and other personnel may not exceed the rate payable for level V of the Executive Schedule under section 5316 of such title. `(4) DETAIL OF GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES- Any Federal Government employee may be detailed to the Commission without reimbursement, and such detail shall be without interruption or loss of civil service status or privilege. `(5) PROCUREMENT OF TEMPORARY AND INTERMITTENT SERVICES- The Chairperson of the Commission may procure temporary and intermittent services under section 3109(b) of title 5, United States Code, at rates for individuals that do not exceed the daily equivalent of the annual rate of basic pay prescribed for level V of the Executive Schedule under section 5316 of such title. `(d) Termination of the Commission- The Commission shall terminate on the date that is 90 days after the date on which the Commission submits the Commission's report under subsection (b)(2). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Mon Apr 28 08:43:48 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: REMINDER... QIAT for Post Secondary Education WIKI Message-ID: <017501c8a946$a6e21b60$f4a65220$@org> Thought I would bring this to your attention since this work is directly relevant to one of ATHEN's state professional goals. The QIAT protocols are well established in k-12, perhaps some of you would like to join in with this effort to insure the relevant postsecondary issues are dealt with. Is this a real effort, or just a group consultants looking for more work? Ron Stewart From: Quality Indicators for Assistive Technology [mailto:QIAT@LSV.UKY.EDU] On Behalf Of Joy Zabala Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:11 AM To: QIAT@LSV.UKY.EDU Subject: REMINDER... QIAT for Post Secondary Education WIKI Good morning, QIAT people. Happy Monday! I have great confident in the willingness and passion of QIAT people to share their thoughts and opinions, so I know that you just need a reminder. Remember the earlier message about the efforts of Bryan Ayres, Janet Peters, Russ Holland to adapt QIAT to address the issues and responsibilities of people working with individuals in post-secondary environments. The initial target environment and population is staff working in disability support and disability service in post secondary education environments such as open enrollment community colleges and four year institutes of higher education. Please take some time to go to the WIKI dedicated to the initial work located at www.qiatgrowsup.pbwiki.com and add your comments, edits, etc. The invitation code to the WIKI is qiat. Please read the first page of the WIKI and become familiar with the www.qiat.org site and the generic indicators on the wiki site prior to editing. You must be logged on to edit. You can ask the WIKI to send you feedback on edits that have been made. The value of your knowledge and experience with QIAT makes your input EXTREMELY VALUABLE to this work . Looking forward to seeing YOUR comments on the WIKI. Joy . -------------------------------------------------- The QIAT List - To Subscribe, unsubscribe, make changes in delivery options or search the QIAT archives, click this link to go to http://lsv.uky.edu/archives/QIAT.html. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Mon Apr 28 08:59:25 2008 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Document sharing and collaboration software Message-ID: <01a501c8a948$d4eab470$7ec01d50$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Morning all! I am looking for your input on the software your institutions use to promote document collaboration and sharing amongst your campus communities. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmhaven at stanford.edu Mon Apr 28 11:17:05 2008 From: rmhaven at stanford.edu (rmhaven@stanford.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: REMINDER... QIAT for Post Secondary Education WIKI In-Reply-To: <017501c8a946$a6e21b60$f4a65220$@org> References: <017501c8a946$a6e21b60$f4a65220$@org> Message-ID: <20080428111705.tmdr1x24ckcgkks8@webmail.stanford.edu> Hi, Ron (and all)! I'd say it's a real effort. Prior to being at Stanford, I spent about 10 years in the K-12 arena and worked with the folks behind the Quality Indicators for Assistive Technology (QIAT) -- Joy Zabala (who posted the message below), Penny Reed, Gayl Bowser, Diana Carl, and others. As part of an Arizona Dept. of Education program, we received substantial training on this and then worked closely with school districts throughout the state to help special education departments and IEP teams adopt and practice this approach. It seems like a natural extension of their current efforts to apply these very effective and consistent "best practices" beyond K-12 into the post-secondary environment where many of these students will be heading. - Shelley Quoting Ron Stewart : > Thought I would bring this to your attention since this work is directly > relevant to one of ATHEN's state professional goals. The QIAT protocols are > well established in k-12, perhaps some of you would like to join in with > this effort to insure the relevant postsecondary issues are dealt with. Is > this a real effort, or just a group consultants looking for more work? > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > From: Quality Indicators for Assistive Technology [mailto:QIAT@LSV.UKY.EDU] > On Behalf Of Joy Zabala > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:11 AM > To: QIAT@LSV.UKY.EDU > Subject: REMINDER... QIAT for Post Secondary Education WIKI > > > > Good morning, QIAT people. Happy Monday! > > > > I have great confident in the willingness and passion of QIAT people to > share their thoughts and opinions, so I know that you just need a reminder. > > > > Remember the earlier message about the efforts of Bryan Ayres, Janet Peters, > Russ Holland to adapt QIAT to address the issues and responsibilities of > people working with individuals in post-secondary environments. The initial > target environment and population is staff working in disability support and > disability service in post secondary education environments such as open > enrollment community colleges and four year institutes of higher education. > > > > Please take some time to go to the WIKI dedicated to the initial work > located at www.qiatgrowsup.pbwiki.com > and add your comments, edits, etc. > > > > The invitation code to the WIKI is qiat. Please read the first page of the > WIKI and become familiar with the www.qiat.org site > and the generic indicators on the wiki site prior to editing. You must be > logged on to edit. You can ask the WIKI to send you feedback on edits that > have been made. > > > > The value of your knowledge and experience with QIAT makes your input > EXTREMELY VALUABLE to this work > > . > > Looking forward to seeing YOUR comments on the WIKI. > > > > Joy > > . > > > > -------------------------------------------------- The QIAT List - To > Subscribe, unsubscribe, make changes in delivery options or search the QIAT > archives, click this link to go to http://lsv.uky.edu/archives/QIAT.html. > > From ron at ahead.org Mon Apr 28 11:44:02 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] QIAT for Post Secondary Education WIKI In-Reply-To: <20080428111705.tmdr1x24ckcgkks8@webmail.stanford.edu> References: <017501c8a946$a6e21b60$f4a65220$@org> <20080428111705.tmdr1x24ckcgkks8@webmail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <008c01c8a95f$d4252310$7c6f6930$@org> Hi Shelly and all, I am not saying it is not a real effort, I was being somewhat tounge in cheek with my comment though the fact that almost all of the participants are full time consultants is a valid concern. Anyone can be a proffet when they are 100 miles from home :) I participated in development of the QIAT standards and have a lot of regard for these folk's work in the k-12 realm. I also have extensive experience working with many of this cast of characters and I think my concerns about their overall lack of any substantive higher ed experience as service providers is directly relevant to what they are proposing to do here. That said the reason that I sent this to the list was to encourage the ATHEN membership to get involved with this so that it does result in something that contributes to our work instead of resulting in one more distraction from actually making students with disabilities more successful in their efforts. These folks have a lot of deserved influence in the k-12 IDEA world and it is always better to be part of a solution than part of the problem. Ron -----Original Message----- From: rmhaven@stanford.edu [mailto:rmhaven@stanford.edu] Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:17 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; Ron Stewart Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: REMINDER... QIAT for Post Secondary Education WIKI Hi, Ron (and all)! I'd say it's a real effort. Prior to being at Stanford, I spent about 10 years in the K-12 arena and worked with the folks behind the Quality Indicators for Assistive Technology (QIAT) -- Joy Zabala (who posted the message below), Penny Reed, Gayl Bowser, Diana Carl, and others. As part of an Arizona Dept. of Education program, we received substantial training on this and then worked closely with school districts throughout the state to help special education departments and IEP teams adopt and practice this approach. It seems like a natural extension of their current efforts to apply these very effective and consistent "best practices" beyond K-12 into the post-secondary environment where many of these students will be heading. - Shelley Quoting Ron Stewart : > Thought I would bring this to your attention since this work is directly > relevant to one of ATHEN's state professional goals. The QIAT protocols are > well established in k-12, perhaps some of you would like to join in with > this effort to insure the relevant postsecondary issues are dealt with. Is > this a real effort, or just a group consultants looking for more work? > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > From: Quality Indicators for Assistive Technology [mailto:QIAT@LSV.UKY.EDU] > On Behalf Of Joy Zabala > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:11 AM > To: QIAT@LSV.UKY.EDU > Subject: REMINDER... QIAT for Post Secondary Education WIKI > > > > Good morning, QIAT people. Happy Monday! > > > > I have great confident in the willingness and passion of QIAT people to > share their thoughts and opinions, so I know that you just need a reminder. > > > > Remember the earlier message about the efforts of Bryan Ayres, Janet Peters, > Russ Holland to adapt QIAT to address the issues and responsibilities of > people working with individuals in post-secondary environments. The initial > target environment and population is staff working in disability support and > disability service in post secondary education environments such as open > enrollment community colleges and four year institutes of higher education. > > > > Please take some time to go to the WIKI dedicated to the initial work > located at www.qiatgrowsup.pbwiki.com > and add your comments, edits, etc. > > > > The invitation code to the WIKI is qiat. Please read the first page of the > WIKI and become familiar with the www.qiat.org site > and the generic indicators on the wiki site prior to editing. You must be > logged on to edit. You can ask the WIKI to send you feedback on edits that > have been made. > > > > The value of your knowledge and experience with QIAT makes your input > EXTREMELY VALUABLE to this work > > . > > Looking forward to seeing YOUR comments on the WIKI. > > > > Joy > > . > > > > -------------------------------------------------- The QIAT List - To > Subscribe, unsubscribe, make changes in delivery options or search the QIAT > archives, click this link to go to http://lsv.uky.edu/archives/QIAT.html. > > From rmhaven at stanford.edu Mon Apr 28 12:25:26 2008 From: rmhaven at stanford.edu (rmhaven@stanford.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] QIAT for Post Secondary Education WIKI In-Reply-To: <008c01c8a95f$d4252310$7c6f6930$@org> References: <017501c8a946$a6e21b60$f4a65220$@org> <20080428111705.tmdr1x24ckcgkks8@webmail.stanford.edu> <008c01c8a95f$d4252310$7c6f6930$@org> Message-ID: <20080428122526.82089adgg0skok40@webmail.stanford.edu> I agree fully. And I'm sure the "QIAT people" (as Joy called them) would welcome and appreciate both inputs and insights from the higher-ed folks. - Shelley Quoting Ron Stewart : > Hi Shelly and all, > > I am not saying it is not a real effort, I was being somewhat tounge in > cheek with my comment though the fact that almost all of the participants > are full time consultants is a valid concern. Anyone can be a proffet when > they are 100 miles from home :) > > I participated in development of the QIAT standards and have a lot of regard > for these folk's work in the k-12 realm. I also have extensive experience > working with many of this cast of characters and I think my concerns about > their overall lack of any substantive higher ed experience as service > providers is directly relevant to what they are proposing to do here. > > That said the reason that I sent this to the list was to encourage the ATHEN > membership to get involved with this so that it does result in something > that contributes to our work instead of resulting in one more distraction > from actually making students with disabilities more successful in their > efforts. These folks have a lot of deserved influence in the k-12 IDEA world > and it is always better to be part of a solution than part of the problem. > > Ron > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rmhaven@stanford.edu [mailto:rmhaven@stanford.edu] > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:17 PM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; Ron Stewart > Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: REMINDER... QIAT for Post Secondary Education WIKI > > Hi, Ron (and all)! > > I'd say it's a real effort. Prior to being at Stanford, I spent about > 10 years in the K-12 arena and worked with the folks behind the > Quality Indicators for Assistive Technology (QIAT) -- Joy Zabala (who > posted the message below), Penny Reed, Gayl Bowser, Diana Carl, and > others. As part of an Arizona Dept. of Education program, we received > substantial training on this and then worked closely with school > districts throughout the state to help special education departments > and IEP teams adopt and practice this approach. It seems like a > natural extension of their current efforts to apply these very > effective and consistent "best practices" beyond K-12 into the > post-secondary environment where many of these students will be heading. > > - Shelley > > > > Quoting Ron Stewart : > >> Thought I would bring this to your attention since this work is directly >> relevant to one of ATHEN's state professional goals. The QIAT protocols > are >> well established in k-12, perhaps some of you would like to join in with >> this effort to insure the relevant postsecondary issues are dealt with. > Is >> this a real effort, or just a group consultants looking for more work? >> >> >> >> Ron Stewart >> >> >> >> From: Quality Indicators for Assistive Technology > [mailto:QIAT@LSV.UKY.EDU] >> On Behalf Of Joy Zabala >> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:11 AM >> To: QIAT@LSV.UKY.EDU >> Subject: REMINDER... QIAT for Post Secondary Education WIKI >> >> >> >> Good morning, QIAT people. Happy Monday! >> >> >> >> I have great confident in the willingness and passion of QIAT people to >> share their thoughts and opinions, so I know that you just need a > reminder. >> >> >> >> Remember the earlier message about the efforts of Bryan Ayres, Janet > Peters, >> Russ Holland to adapt QIAT to address the issues and responsibilities of >> people working with individuals in post-secondary environments. The > initial >> target environment and population is staff working in disability support > and >> disability service in post secondary education environments such as open >> enrollment community colleges and four year institutes of higher > education. >> >> >> >> Please take some time to go to the WIKI dedicated to the initial work >> located at www.qiatgrowsup.pbwiki.com > >> and add your comments, edits, etc. >> >> >> >> The invitation code to the WIKI is qiat. Please read the first page of > the >> WIKI and become familiar with the www.qiat.org > site >> and the generic indicators on the wiki site prior to editing. You must be >> logged on to edit. You can ask the WIKI to send you feedback on edits > that >> have been made. >> >> >> >> The value of your knowledge and experience with QIAT makes your input >> EXTREMELY VALUABLE to this work >> >> . >> >> Looking forward to seeing YOUR comments on the WIKI. >> >> >> >> Joy >> >> . >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- The QIAT List - To >> Subscribe, unsubscribe, make changes in delivery options or search the > QIAT >> archives, click this link to go to http://lsv.uky.edu/archives/QIAT.html. >> >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From ea at emptech.info Mon Apr 28 12:49:33 2008 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Document sharing and collaboration software In-Reply-To: <01a501c8a948$d4eab470$7ec01d50$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> References: <01a501c8a948$d4eab470$7ec01d50$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <007601c8a968$fbb4c440$f31e4cc0$@info> We use ePrints HYPERLINK "http://www.eprints.org/"http://www.eprints.org/ but I am not sure it is what you want (made in the building where I work!) otherwise faculty use Blackboard and their own intranets! Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: 28 April 2008 16:59 To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Document sharing and collaboration software Morning all! I am looking for your input on the software your institutions use to promote document collaboration and sharing amongst your campus communities. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Ron No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1400 - Release Date: 27/04/2008 09:39 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1400 - Release Date: 27/04/2008 09:39 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tft at u.washington.edu Mon Apr 28 15:00:28 2008 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN e-Journal Call for Papers Message-ID: <200804282200.m3SM0Tt3019459@smtp.washington.edu> The ATHEN e-Journal invites submissions for its upcoming edition on the topic of "Who We Are as a Profession". Professionals in higher education whose work relates to information technology accessibility, assistive technology, disability services, alternate format production, or related fields are welcome to submit papers to be considered for publication. ATHEN is a professional association and network for Access Technologists in Higher Education. The purpose of ATHEN is to collect and disseminate best practices in access technology in the higher education environment as well as present a collective voice for the professional practice of access technology in higher education. Questions or submissions may be directed to: Terry Thompson tft@u.washington.edu University of Washington Papers should be submitted electronically; MSWord, WordPerfect, OpenOffice, or RTF are preferred formats. Submission deadline: May 31, 2008 From ron at ahead.org Wed Apr 30 11:26:31 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] WCAG 2.0 published today as "W3C Candidate Recommendation" Message-ID: <046501c8aaef$b75f7050$261e50f0$@org> For your interested consumption Ron -------- Original Message -------- Subject: WCAG 2.0 Candidate Recommendation Ready to Test Drive Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:49:28 -0500 From: Shawn Henry To: WAI Interest Group Dear WAI Interest Group Participants, The Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) Working Group is excited to announce the publication of WCAG 2.0 as a W3C Candidate Recommendation on 30 April. WCAG 2.0 explains how to make Web sites, applications, and other content accessible to people with disabilities, and many elderly users. http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/CR-WCAG20-20080430/ Candidate Recommendation (CR) is a major step in the W3C standards development process; it signals that there is broad consensus in the Working Group and among public reviewers on the technical content of WCAG 2.0. The W3C Process stages are described in: How WAI Develops Accessibility Guidelines through the W3C Process http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/w3c-process The primary purpose of this CR stage is for developers and designers to "test drive" WCAG 2.0 to demonstrate that WCAG 2.0 can be implemented in Web sites. WAI encourages a broad range of Web sites and Web applications to use WCAG 2.0 at this stage, and share implementation experience. For information on submitting your implementations, see: WCAG 2.0 Candidate Recommendation Implementation Information http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/CR/ If you plan to provide implementations, please let us know your intentions by *23 May 2008*. Actual implementations are due by *30 June 2008*. It is important to note that some WCAG 2.0 requirements are at risk; that is, they may not be included if there are not sufficient implementations. Items at risk are listed under "Items at Risk" in: http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/CR-WCAG20-20080430/#status_risk While the focus of this stage is to collect implementations, the comment form and email address are still available from: Instructions for Commenting on WCAG 2.0 Documents http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/comments/ The different WCAG 2.0 documents that the WCAG Working Group updated with this publication are introduced in: Overview of Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0 Documents http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag20.php A key tool for using WCAG 2.0 documents, which was previously called the "Quick Reference", is: How to Meet WCAG 2.0: A customizable quick reference to WCAG 2.0 requirements... http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/ For more information about the Candidate Recommendation status of WCAG 2.0 and the changes since the last publication, see: "Status of this Document" section of WCAG 2.0 http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/CR-WCAG20-20080430/#status WCAG 2.0 is part of a series of accessibility guidelines/standards developed by WAI, which are listed in: WAI Guidelines and Techniques http://www.w3.org/WAI/guid-tech.html Feel free to circulate this message to other lists; please avoid cross-postings where possible. Please let us know if you have any questions. Thank you in advance for your help implementing WCAG 2.0. Regards, ~Shawn Lawton Henry and Judy Brewer On behalf of: Loretta Guarino Reid, Co-chair of WCAG WG, and Computer Scientist, Google Inc. Gregg Vanderheiden, Co-chair of WCAG WG, and Director of Trace R&D Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison Michael Cooper, W3C Team Contact for WCAG WG ----- Shawn Lawton Henry, W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) about: http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/ phone: +1-617-395-7664 e-mail: shawn@w3.org _______________________________________________ To manage your subscription, visit http://list.webaim.org/ Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org