From repam at saclink.csus.edu Fri Aug 1 08:13:37 2008 From: repam at saclink.csus.edu (Repa, Melissa J.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] New Accessibility Position at Sacramento State Message-ID: Sacramento State's Academic Computing Resources Department is looking for a Compliance/Training Specialist (Admin. Analyst/Spec., Exempt II, Job # 100140) for the Accessible Technology Initiative. To apply and for more details, please go to: http://www.csus.edu/webpages/employment.stm Description is pasted below. Please help spread the word. My apologies for duplicate postings. Thank you, Melissa Repa, M.A. Co-Director, Services to Students with Disabilities California State University, Sacramento Lassen Hall 1008 Phone: (916) 278-6955 Voicemail: (916) 278-7821 TTY: (916) 278-7239 Fax: (916) 278-7825 E-mail: repam@csus.edu ********************************************** ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST/SPECIALIST, EXEMPT II (TRAINING SPECIALIST - ACCESSIBLE TECHNOLOGY) JOB #: 100140 DEPARTMENT: ACADEMIC COMPUTING RESOURCES Eligible on-campus applicants in CSUEU Bargaining Units 2, 5, 7, and 9 will be given first consideration in this recruitment. This is a full-time probationary-track position which may become permanent upon successful completion of a probationary period. HOURS: MONDAY - FRIDAY, 8:00 A.M. - 5:00 P.M. SALARY RANGE: $4,631.00 - $6,946.00 PER MONTH NOTE: It is the general practice of Sacramento State, to hire at the lower end of the salary range. (This does not apply to promotions of on-campus employees.) BENEFITS/FLSA: This position is covered by health benefits, and is exempt (not eligible for overtime compensation) according to the Fair Labor Standards Act. FINAL APPLICATION DEADLINE: OPEN UNTIL FILLED. MINIMUM/ENTRY QUALIFICATIONS: Entry to this classification requires general knowledge and skills in the applicable administrative and/or program field with a foundational knowledge of public administration principles, practices, and methods. This foundation would normally be obtained through a bachelor's degree and/or equivalent training and administrative work experience involving study, analysis, and/or evaluation leading to the development or improvement of administrative policies, procedures, practices, or programs. Three position skill levels are defined within the classification. Incumbents in positions at this level often provide program leadership of a strategic nature through program or organizational unit planning activities and the analysis, development, and evaluation of highly complex programs with broad impact. SPECIAL SKILLS AND ABILITIES: Experience leading collaborative projects and applying expertise to complex programs and/or administrative specialties. Familiarity with technology issues and trends relevant to higher education; experience evaluating information technology products and services and working with IT product vendors; customer service experience, preferably in a higher educational environment; experience in delivering presentations and conducting and evaluating training; equivalent to graduation from a four year college or university in a job related field, Master's degree in related field is desirable; demonstrable excellence in writing and speaking as well as other forms of communication. Strong problem solving skills and the ability to make recommendations and justifications based on sound research, applicable procedures and policies, and input from appropriate stakeholders; demonstrable initiative and ability to multi-task and perform work in various situations, where diverse demands are involved; ability to learn, interpret, and apply a wide variety of policies and procedures relating to and impacting the accessible electronic information and technology procurement process; ability to organize and plan work and projects including handling multiple priorities; demonstrated ability to establish and maintain effective working relationships within and outside the work group and serve as a liaison for the organizational unit. Basic knowledge or willingness to learn about accessible technology issue, applications, laws and compliance requirements, including Section 508 technical standards, is desirable and helpful in performing the work assignments. GENERAL SUMMARY OF DUTIES/RESPONSIBILITIES: The position of Compliance/Training Specialist - Accessible Technology consults with and provides direct technical assistance, training, resource materials, and support to faculty and staff in their efforts to comply with the CSU Accessible Technology Initiative and Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act for accessible electronic and information technology (E&IT) procurement. The position's primary focus is on the research, development, evaluation and implementation of accessible electronic and information technology procurement. This position also acts as a resource for the campus community on accessible E&IT procurement and in promoting the campus-wide adoption of and compliance with the Section 508 accessibility requirements. ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS: * Work with representatives from campus departments, as well as external vendors, to evaluate accessibility of electronic and information technology (E&IT) products and services recommended for procurement. * Develop best practices and training on procedures for meeting accessible procurement compliance requirements. * Deliver presentations and in-service training on accessible E&IT procurement. * Evaluate the training needs related to the CSU Accessible Technology Initiative requirements especially as related to accessible E&IT procurement processes, and conduct one-on-one and group training sessions. * Research practices, procedures and guidelines for compliance with federal and state laws as they relate to electronic and information technology procurement from a strategic and operational perspective. * Provide administrative coordination in terms of communication, compliance tracking, and reporting related to CSU accessible technology requirements. * Collaborate with other CSU campuses and the CSU Chancellor's Office on approaches and best practices for compliance with accessibility requirements that pertain to procurement. * Advise management on policies and procedures to meet programmatic goals pertaining to accessible E&IT procurement. * May recruit, train and oversee student assistants and temporary staff. * Submit project status reports as specified. * Maintain excellent working relationships with other departments and customers. * Continuously acquire new skills and enhance professional growth and development through participation in self-development, conferences and professional training as approved. * Serve as a resource on the Accessible Technology Initiative project. From kerri.hicks at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 08:31:21 2008 From: kerri.hicks at gmail.com (Kerri Hicks) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Digital pen for LD/HOH? Message-ID: <9879d07c0808010831i26940cfcg3e447da25b707add@mail.gmail.com> Have any of you seen/tried the Livescribe Pulse pen? I just received mine last night, and it is an enormous step up from the old Logitech Digital IO pen. http://www.livescribe.com/ It records audio while it also captures what you write (on its special paper). Then you tap on your notes to hear what was said while you were writing. My first thought was what a terrific tool this would be for a student who has a learning disability, or who is hard of hearing, to be able to replay lectures and do so in a spatial way, instead of a linear way. You can also upload/share notes with others, so students can help one another...but it would also be a neat tool for notetakers to use. I'm not a shill and have nothing to do with the company, I just wonder if anyone has worked with an LD or HOH student who's used one, and what the pros/cons might have been. Thanks! Kerri A. Hicks Senior Information Technologist University of Rhode Island kerri_hicks@mail.uri.edu From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Fri Aug 1 10:53:57 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Please let me know if you submitted a proposal to ATIA Message-ID: <002301c8f3ff$92353630$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Hello All: If you submitted a proposal to ATIA for the January conference, please let me and Dan know, and also, please let us know the title of the proposal. The way they sort the ATIA proposals, unless you selected only "post-secondary" or "transition" as the population age, it would probably not be routed to the Post-Secondary track. I know that Jon Gunderson & Jayme Johnson submitted proposals. If anyone else has, please let us know. Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Sat Aug 2 10:23:21 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Digital pen for LD/HOH? In-Reply-To: <9879d07c0808010831i26940cfcg3e447da25b707add@mail.gmail.com> References: <9879d07c0808010831i26940cfcg3e447da25b707add@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001501c8f4c4$78048a70$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> I will be very interested to hear your students' actual experiences. What I have heard so far is that although these pens sound like a wonderful idea, they don't seem to work so well in practice. It is quite possible, however, that in those other cases there was a lack of understanding about how the technology actually works. Please keep us posted. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kerri Hicks Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:31 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Digital pen for LD/HOH? Have any of you seen/tried the Livescribe Pulse pen? I just received mine last night, and it is an enormous step up from the old Logitech Digital IO pen. http://www.livescribe.com/ It records audio while it also captures what you write (on its special paper). Then you tap on your notes to hear what was said while you were writing. My first thought was what a terrific tool this would be for a student who has a learning disability, or who is hard of hearing, to be able to replay lectures and do so in a spatial way, instead of a linear way. You can also upload/share notes with others, so students can help one another...but it would also be a neat tool for notetakers to use. I'm not a shill and have nothing to do with the company, I just wonder if anyone has worked with an LD or HOH student who's used one, and what the pros/cons might have been. Thanks! Kerri A. Hicks Senior Information Technologist University of Rhode Island kerri_hicks@mail.uri.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From kerri.hicks at gmail.com Sat Aug 2 11:31:35 2008 From: kerri.hicks at gmail.com (Kerri Hicks) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Digital pen for LD/HOH? In-Reply-To: <001501c8f4c4$78048a70$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <9879d07c0808010831i26940cfcg3e447da25b707add@mail.gmail.com> <001501c8f4c4$78048a70$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <9879d07c0808021131y7f855c2dr4d5d1566de87c9f7@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Gaeir Dietrich wrote: > I will be very interested to hear your students' actual experiences. What I > have heard so far is that although these pens sound like a wonderful idea, > they don't seem to work so well in practice. It is quite possible, however, > that in those other cases there was a lack of understanding about how the > technology actually works. Please keep us posted. Hi Gaeir. Here's a sample I did this afternoon. I listened to a recipe on VideoJug, and took notes while the announcer was explaining the procedure. http://www.livescribe.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/LDApp.woa/wa/MLSOverviewPage?sid=wt9QphffhpJV Click on the arrow at the top right to expand the page to full-page. You can listen to the entire thing all the way through, or you can click on any point on the page and hear what was being said as that text was being written. It's not perfect, of course, but this is a real-world example of what it does and puts out. Also, if you see text being written in two places at once, it's because I had to go back and listen to the list of spices -- I couldn't write that fast. I copied them while I was listening to the pen repeat what they should be. I'm going to get in touch with them and plead for the ability to create custom inputs -- it has stereo mics you can plug into it, but imagine if you could plug in an FM receiver, so students who are hard-of-hearing will get direct signal not only to their hearing aids, but to their pen as well! Take care, --Kerri From blrichwine at gmail.com Sun Aug 3 14:34:25 2008 From: blrichwine at gmail.com (Brian Richwine) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Digital pen for LD/HOH? In-Reply-To: <9879d07c0808021131y7f855c2dr4d5d1566de87c9f7@mail.gmail.com> References: <9879d07c0808010831i26940cfcg3e447da25b707add@mail.gmail.com> <001501c8f4c4$78048a70$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> <9879d07c0808021131y7f855c2dr4d5d1566de87c9f7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <62a0ac600808031434u76682618mf33d01040fc9366e@mail.gmail.com> I'm curious is anyone has tried Microsoft's OneNote for this? Especially for those who have poor handwriting or prefer to type. I've heard that OneNote does a similar thing as it records audio can sync it to the notes as they are typed. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Kerri Hicks wrote: > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Gaeir Dietrich > wrote: > > I will be very interested to hear your students' actual experiences. What > I > > have heard so far is that although these pens sound like a wonderful > idea, > > they don't seem to work so well in practice. It is quite possible, > however, > > that in those other cases there was a lack of understanding about how the > > technology actually works. Please keep us posted. > > Hi Gaeir. > > Here's a sample I did this afternoon. I listened to a recipe on > VideoJug, and took notes while the announcer was explaining the > procedure. > > > http://www.livescribe.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/LDApp.woa/wa/MLSOverviewPage?sid=wt9QphffhpJV > > Click on the arrow at the top right to expand the page to full-page. > You can listen to the entire thing all the way through, or you can > click on any point on the page and hear what was being said as that > text was being written. > > It's not perfect, of course, but this is a real-world example of what > it does and puts out. Also, if you see text being written in two > places at once, it's because I had to go back and listen to the list > of spices -- I couldn't write that fast. I copied them while I was > listening to the pen repeat what they should be. > > I'm going to get in touch with them and plead for the ability to > create custom inputs -- it has stereo mics you can plug into it, but > imagine if you could plug in an FM receiver, so students who are > hard-of-hearing will get direct signal not only to their hearing aids, > but to their pen as well! > > Take care, > --Kerri > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmhaven at stanford.edu Sun Aug 3 15:58:55 2008 From: rmhaven at stanford.edu (rmhaven@stanford.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Digital pen for LD/HOH? In-Reply-To: <62a0ac600808031434u76682618mf33d01040fc9366e@mail.gmail.com> References: <9879d07c0808010831i26940cfcg3e447da25b707add@mail.gmail.com> <001501c8f4c4$78048a70$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> <9879d07c0808021131y7f855c2dr4d5d1566de87c9f7@mail.gmail.com> <62a0ac600808031434u76682618mf33d01040fc9366e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080803155855.3tr5ge460ccs0k8g@webmail.stanford.edu> Hi, Brian! You're right -- MS OneNote also has an audio record feature that will synchronize notes taken (via typing or handwriting if you have a tablet PC). I've recommended this to students over the years. On the Mac side, the best similar product I've used is Circus Ponies' NoteBook. Their newest version (3.0) also permits note input via a standard graphics tablet (Wacom, others). BTW, it's not publicized much, but this same capability (audio plus synchronized typed notetaking) is available on Microsoft Word for Mac (but not Word for Windows) -- just select View > Notebook Layout to get the notebook metaphor, then View > Toolbars > Audio Notes to show a toolbar with standard audio functions (Record, Play, Pause, etc.). Think of it as a bare bones version of OneNote. (One other tidbit: OneNote will also synchronize notes with video if you connect a small videocam.) For students who have difficulty simultaneously taking notes and listening, I suggest they come up with a strategy and a set of words which can help them find the appropriate audio when they need it (whether to relisten to it or to expand notes). For example, they could mark or annotate key points or "sections" in the audio by writing or typing just one or two words like: - Assignment (for where the instructor goes over the homework assignment) - Major Point (to imply "be sure to listen to this later") - Test (this will be on the test) - ?? (don't understand - ask instructor later) - Text pg. __ (reference to something in textbook) - [Topic name] (marks where instructor began talking about a new topic) - etc. For really quick entry, create a set of keyboard macros for these words and assign them to the F-keys. With practice, one can create an on-the-fly text outline of the audio lecture with little writing or typing. Of course, it help to use a good external microphone rather than a laptop's built-in mike, adjust the mike's sensitivity, and sit where you can get a decent audio recording. So for students who already use laptops, prefer to type, and/or have poor or slow handwriting, OneNote and NoteBook might be better options than pens like LiveScribe, Fly Fusion, and others. - Shelley Haven Quoting Brian Richwine : > I'm curious is anyone has tried Microsoft's OneNote for this? Especially for > those who have poor handwriting or prefer to type. I've heard that OneNote > does a similar thing as it records audio can sync it to the notes as they > are typed. > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Kerri Hicks wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Gaeir Dietrich >> wrote: >> > I will be very interested to hear your students' actual experiences. What >> I >> > have heard so far is that although these pens sound like a wonderful >> idea, >> > they don't seem to work so well in practice. It is quite possible, >> however, >> > that in those other cases there was a lack of understanding about how the >> > technology actually works. Please keep us posted. >> >> Hi Gaeir. >> >> Here's a sample I did this afternoon. I listened to a recipe on >> VideoJug, and took notes while the announcer was explaining the >> procedure. >> >> >> http://www.livescribe.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/LDApp.woa/wa/MLSOverviewPage?sid=wt9QphffhpJV >> >> Click on the arrow at the top right to expand the page to full-page. >> You can listen to the entire thing all the way through, or you can >> click on any point on the page and hear what was being said as that >> text was being written. >> >> It's not perfect, of course, but this is a real-world example of what >> it does and puts out. Also, if you see text being written in two >> places at once, it's because I had to go back and listen to the list >> of spices -- I couldn't write that fast. I copied them while I was >> listening to the pen repeat what they should be. >> >> I'm going to get in touch with them and plead for the ability to >> create custom inputs -- it has stereo mics you can plug into it, but >> imagine if you could plug in an FM receiver, so students who are >> hard-of-hearing will get direct signal not only to their hearing aids, >> but to their pen as well! >> >> Take care, >> --Kerri >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > From kellers at cahs.colostate.edu Mon Aug 4 12:35:27 2008 From: kellers at cahs.colostate.edu (Keller,Sherri) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 31, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not usre if this has been passed around yet, just found it doing some research. RNIB released a beta version of toolbar made to make surfing the web more accessible. Here is the link with the info. http://www.rnib.org.uk/wacblog/news/rnib-surf-right-toolbar-beta-version-available/ Sherri G. Keller Colorado State University Assistive Technology Resource Center ________________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org [athen-request@athenpro.org] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:00 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 31, Issue 3 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Digital pen for LD/HOH? (Brian Richwine) 2. Re: Digital pen for LD/HOH? (rmhaven@stanford.edu) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:34:25 -0400 From: "Brian Richwine" Subject: Re: [Athen] Digital pen for LD/HOH? To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: <62a0ac600808031434u76682618mf33d01040fc9366e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm curious is anyone has tried Microsoft's OneNote for this? Especially for those who have poor handwriting or prefer to type. I've heard that OneNote does a similar thing as it records audio can sync it to the notes as they are typed. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Kerri Hicks wrote: > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Gaeir Dietrich > wrote: > > I will be very interested to hear your students' actual experiences. What > I > > have heard so far is that although these pens sound like a wonderful > idea, > > they don't seem to work so well in practice. It is quite possible, > however, > > that in those other cases there was a lack of understanding about how the > > technology actually works. Please keep us posted. > > Hi Gaeir. > > Here's a sample I did this afternoon. I listened to a recipe on > VideoJug, and took notes while the announcer was explaining the > procedure. > > > http://www.livescribe.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/LDApp.woa/wa/MLSOverviewPage?sid=wt9QphffhpJV > > Click on the arrow at the top right to expand the page to full-page. > You can listen to the entire thing all the way through, or you can > click on any point on the page and hear what was being said as that > text was being written. > > It's not perfect, of course, but this is a real-world example of what > it does and puts out. Also, if you see text being written in two > places at once, it's because I had to go back and listen to the list > of spices -- I couldn't write that fast. I copied them while I was > listening to the pen repeat what they should be. > > I'm going to get in touch with them and plead for the ability to > create custom inputs -- it has stereo mics you can plug into it, but > imagine if you could plug in an FM receiver, so students who are > hard-of-hearing will get direct signal not only to their hearing aids, > but to their pen as well! > > Take care, > --Kerri > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080803/7afe6a1c/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:58:55 -0700 From: rmhaven@stanford.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] Digital pen for LD/HOH? To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network , Brian Richwine Message-ID: <20080803155855.3tr5ge460ccs0k8g@webmail.stanford.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Hi, Brian! You're right -- MS OneNote also has an audio record feature that will synchronize notes taken (via typing or handwriting if you have a tablet PC). I've recommended this to students over the years. On the Mac side, the best similar product I've used is Circus Ponies' NoteBook. Their newest version (3.0) also permits note input via a standard graphics tablet (Wacom, others). BTW, it's not publicized much, but this same capability (audio plus synchronized typed notetaking) is available on Microsoft Word for Mac (but not Word for Windows) -- just select View > Notebook Layout to get the notebook metaphor, then View > Toolbars > Audio Notes to show a toolbar with standard audio functions (Record, Play, Pause, etc.). Think of it as a bare bones version of OneNote. (One other tidbit: OneNote will also synchronize notes with video if you connect a small videocam.) For students who have difficulty simultaneously taking notes and listening, I suggest they come up with a strategy and a set of words which can help them find the appropriate audio when they need it (whether to relisten to it or to expand notes). For example, they could mark or annotate key points or "sections" in the audio by writing or typing just one or two words like: - Assignment (for where the instructor goes over the homework assignment) - Major Point (to imply "be sure to listen to this later") - Test (this will be on the test) - ?? (don't understand - ask instructor later) - Text pg. __ (reference to something in textbook) - [Topic name] (marks where instructor began talking about a new topic) - etc. For really quick entry, create a set of keyboard macros for these words and assign them to the F-keys. With practice, one can create an on-the-fly text outline of the audio lecture with little writing or typing. Of course, it help to use a good external microphone rather than a laptop's built-in mike, adjust the mike's sensitivity, and sit where you can get a decent audio recording. So for students who already use laptops, prefer to type, and/or have poor or slow handwriting, OneNote and NoteBook might be better options than pens like LiveScribe, Fly Fusion, and others. - Shelley Haven Quoting Brian Richwine : > I'm curious is anyone has tried Microsoft's OneNote for this? Especially for > those who have poor handwriting or prefer to type. I've heard that OneNote > does a similar thing as it records audio can sync it to the notes as they > are typed. > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Kerri Hicks wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Gaeir Dietrich >> wrote: >> > I will be very interested to hear your students' actual experiences. What >> I >> > have heard so far is that although these pens sound like a wonderful >> idea, >> > they don't seem to work so well in practice. It is quite possible, >> however, >> > that in those other cases there was a lack of understanding about how the >> > technology actually works. Please keep us posted. >> >> Hi Gaeir. >> >> Here's a sample I did this afternoon. I listened to a recipe on >> VideoJug, and took notes while the announcer was explaining the >> procedure. >> >> >> http://www.livescribe.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/LDApp.woa/wa/MLSOverviewPage?sid=wt9QphffhpJV >> >> Click on the arrow at the top right to expand the page to full-page. >> You can listen to the entire thing all the way through, or you can >> click on any point on the page and hear what was being said as that >> text was being written. >> >> It's not perfect, of course, but this is a real-world example of what >> it does and puts out. Also, if you see text being written in two >> places at once, it's because I had to go back and listen to the list >> of spices -- I couldn't write that fast. I copied them while I was >> listening to the pen repeat what they should be. >> >> I'm going to get in touch with them and plead for the ability to >> create custom inputs -- it has stereo mics you can plug into it, but >> imagine if you could plug in an FM receiver, so students who are >> hard-of-hearing will get direct signal not only to their hearing aids, >> but to their pen as well! >> >> Take care, >> --Kerri >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 31, Issue 3 ************************************ From gdietrich at htctu.net Mon Aug 4 17:23:03 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG In-Reply-To: <009201c8f2a8$5eaa8480$7801a8c0@ad.colorado.edu> References: <009201c8f2a8$5eaa8480$7801a8c0@ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <009801c8f691$6d87b440$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Don't think I ever saw a reply on this post. We do have other categories, but I don't think it makes a lot of sense to include those on the AHG reg form. I do like the ability to renew ATHEN membership, though. It makes it easier to keep track, for me at least. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:57 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Importance: High Hello All: This message is in particular for Ron, Dan, Pratik and the other executive officers. At CSUN, we talked about the possibility of ATHEN members renewing their memberships via AHG. In the past, interested attendees can sign up and pay for ATHEN membership through conference registration. Since they then receive a discount from the conference, it's obviously an encouragement for them to sign up at the time of registering since the conference savings almost pays for the membership. AT CSUN, we talked about expanding this to membership renewal. We could do this by changing the item "ATHEN Professional Membership" to "ATHEN Professional Membership, including ATHEN membership renewal" - or perhaps something more eloquent I or someone can come up with later. One issue with this is that only individual membership is offered through the AHG registration at this time. Are there other options that should be made available? I'm currently working on how the registration form for AHG will look in paper and on the Web, so I can incorporate any changes once I hear back. Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Mon Aug 4 17:27:11 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG In-Reply-To: <009801c8f691$6d87b440$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <009201c8f2a8$5eaa8480$7801a8c0@ad.colorado.edu> <009801c8f691$6d87b440$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <01f501c8f692$00f5b560$02e12020$@org> Sorry I did not reply, it makes sense to me as well we just need to work out the details. Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:23 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Don't think I ever saw a reply on this post. We do have other categories, but I don't think it makes a lot of sense to include those on the AHG reg form. I do like the ability to renew ATHEN membership, though. It makes it easier to keep track, for me at least. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:57 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Importance: High Hello All: This message is in particular for Ron, Dan, Pratik and the other executive officers. At CSUN, we talked about the possibility of ATHEN members renewing their memberships via AHG. In the past, interested attendees can sign up and pay for ATHEN membership through conference registration. Since they then receive a discount from the conference, it's obviously an encouragement for them to sign up at the time of registering since the conference savings almost pays for the membership. AT CSUN, we talked about expanding this to membership renewal. We could do this by changing the item "ATHEN Professional Membership" to "ATHEN Professional Membership, including ATHEN membership renewal" - or perhaps something more eloquent I or someone can come up with later. One issue with this is that only individual membership is offered through the AHG registration at this time. Are there other options that should be made available? I'm currently working on how the registration form for AHG will look in paper and on the Web, so I can incorporate any changes once I hear back. Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbailey at uoregon.edu Tue Aug 5 07:13:44 2008 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] dealer recommendation? Message-ID: <1217945624.569216.alphamail@mailapps2.uoregon.edu> I am working on a network deployment of K3000 for the University of Oregon and I am finding working with Kurzweil to be somewhat frustrating. Can anyone recommend a good dealer for this transaction? It does not matter where they are located within the US. Thanks, James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu From norm.coombs at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 08:57:40 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] EASI Webinar: George Kerscher on the Word to DAISY Add-in Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080805085208.02288138@pop.gmail.com> This is a reminder that Thursdy August 7 George Kerscher from the DAISY Consortium will be presenting a Webinar for EASI on the new add-in that will let you use Word to create a document that can readily be turned into a DAISY book. For those who already are familiar with this add-in, you will want to listen to George as he will provide insights to upgrades currently under way to further enhance this tool. You may even want to become a beta tester. If you register for this Webinar, you will have a seat reserved in the Webinar room, get login information and also be able to get a link afterwards to its recording. To register, don't wait till the last minute as you won't get the login information in time to attend. Register from: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm Norm Coombs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From rmhaven at stanford.edu Tue Aug 5 10:58:09 2008 From: rmhaven at stanford.edu (rmhaven@stanford.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] dealer recommendation? In-Reply-To: <1217945624.569216.alphamail@mailapps2.uoregon.edu> References: <1217945624.569216.alphamail@mailapps2.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <20080805105809.frl6wj6pc8s4swgs@webmail.stanford.edu> Hi, James! Glad to hear I'm not the only one. ;-) I've used Learning Center Solutions in Colorado and been satisfied with them. In addition, LCS offers a 5% discount on all Kurzweil products (sweet!). http://www.kurzweiledu.com/resellers/k3000distributors-USA-COLORADO.asp http://www.lcsllc.org/LearningCenterSolutions/index.php Good luck! - Shelley Haven Quoting James Bailey : > I am working on a network deployment of K3000 for the University of > Oregon and I am finding working with Kurzweil to be somewhat > frustrating. Can anyone recommend a good dealer for this > transaction? It does not matter where they are located within the US. > > Thanks, > > James > > -- > James Bailey > Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon > 1299 University of Oregon > Eugene, OR 97403-1299 > Office: 541-346-1076 > jbailey@uoregon.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Tue Aug 5 12:34:26 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG In-Reply-To: <01f501c8f692$00f5b560$02e12020$@org> References: <009201c8f2a8$5eaa8480$7801a8c0@ad.colorado.edu><009801c8f691$6d87b440$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> <01f501c8f692$00f5b560$02e12020$@org> Message-ID: <001901c8f732$462cb660$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Ron, et al, Can we work out the details this week? I'm trying to get the reg form posted by next week. Should we do this by phone or e-mail? -Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:27 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Sorry I did not reply, it makes sense to me as well we just need to work out the details. Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:23 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Don't think I ever saw a reply on this post. We do have other categories, but I don't think it makes a lot of sense to include those on the AHG reg form. I do like the ability to renew ATHEN membership, though. It makes it easier to keep track, for me at least. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:57 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Importance: High Hello All: This message is in particular for Ron, Dan, Pratik and the other executive officers. At CSUN, we talked about the possibility of ATHEN members renewing their memberships via AHG. In the past, interested attendees can sign up and pay for ATHEN membership through conference registration. Since they then receive a discount from the conference, it's obviously an encouragement for them to sign up at the time of registering since the conference savings almost pays for the membership. AT CSUN, we talked about expanding this to membership renewal. We could do this by changing the item "ATHEN Professional Membership" to "ATHEN Professional Membership, including ATHEN membership renewal" - or perhaps something more eloquent I or someone can come up with later. One issue with this is that only individual membership is offered through the AHG registration at this time. Are there other options that should be made available? I'm currently working on how the registration form for AHG will look in paper and on the Web, so I can incorporate any changes once I hear back. Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Tue Aug 5 12:40:33 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG In-Reply-To: <001901c8f732$462cb660$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> References: <009201c8f2a8$5eaa8480$7801a8c0@ad.colorado.edu><009801c8f691$6d87b440$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> <01f501c8f692$00f5b560$02e12020$@org> <001901c8f732$462cb660$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <014701c8f733$200413b0$600c3b10$@org> Either is fine by me, but probably by phone would be best. Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:34 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Importance: High Ron, et al, Can we work out the details this week? I'm trying to get the reg form posted by next week. Should we do this by phone or e-mail? -Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:27 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Sorry I did not reply, it makes sense to me as well we just need to work out the details. Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:23 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Don't think I ever saw a reply on this post. We do have other categories, but I don't think it makes a lot of sense to include those on the AHG reg form. I do like the ability to renew ATHEN membership, though. It makes it easier to keep track, for me at least. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:57 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Importance: High Hello All: This message is in particular for Ron, Dan, Pratik and the other executive officers. At CSUN, we talked about the possibility of ATHEN members renewing their memberships via AHG. In the past, interested attendees can sign up and pay for ATHEN membership through conference registration. Since they then receive a discount from the conference, it's obviously an encouragement for them to sign up at the time of registering since the conference savings almost pays for the membership. AT CSUN, we talked about expanding this to membership renewal. We could do this by changing the item "ATHEN Professional Membership" to "ATHEN Professional Membership, including ATHEN membership renewal" - or perhaps something more eloquent I or someone can come up with later. One issue with this is that only individual membership is offered through the AHG registration at this time. Are there other options that should be made available? I'm currently working on how the registration form for AHG will look in paper and on the Web, so I can incorporate any changes once I hear back. Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wiersmac at uww.edu Tue Aug 5 13:31:53 2008 From: wiersmac at uww.edu (Wiersma, Constance A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Astronomy Message-ID: <6A6DDE8A258FF94D86A95DC1898B909E01A7BE9F@facmail3.uww.edu> Greetings: A student who is blind is planning on taking an Astronomy introductory course at our University. The material is very visual. Has anyone had any experience with this type of coursework? The primary textbook, Universe by Freedman and Kaufmann, consists of numerous graphic representations, photographs of stars and galaxies, etc. I would very much appreciate any suggestions of how to depict this type of information for this student. We are also looking for a Braille version of this text book. Thank you for any suggestions. Sincerely, Connie Wiersma, Assistant Director Center for Students with Disabilities University of Wisconsin-Whitewater Whitewater, WI 53190 Ph. 262-472-5244 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From FosterS at sou.edu Tue Aug 5 13:58:08 2008 From: FosterS at sou.edu (Shawn Foster) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Astronomy In-Reply-To: <6A6DDE8A258FF94D86A95DC1898B909E01A7BE9F@facmail3.uww.edu> References: <6A6DDE8A258FF94D86A95DC1898B909E01A7BE9F@facmail3.uww.edu> Message-ID: <48985C6F.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> Which edition? The 7th is available from RFB&D ( http://www.rfbd.org ) - they do a great job of audio description on all of the graphics. That would be the way I'd go! Shaw Shawn Foster Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Services for Students Southern Oregon University V/TTY: (541)552-6213 blog: http://atatsou.blogspot.com ( http://atatsou.blogspot.com/ ) n >>> On 8/5/2008 at 1:31 PM, in message <6A6DDE8A258FF94D86A95DC1898B909E01A7BE9F@facmail3.uww.edu>, "Wiersma, Constance A" wrote: Greetings: A student who is blind is planning on taking an Astronomy introductory course at our University. The material is very visual. Has anyone had any experience with this type of coursework? The primary textbook, Universe by Freedman and Kaufmann, consists of numerous graphic representations, photographs of stars and galaxies, etc. I would very much appreciate any suggestions of how to depict this type of information for this student. We are also looking for a Braille version of this text book. Thank you for any suggestions. 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Shaw Shawn Foster Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Services for Students Southern Oregon University V/TTY: (541)552-6213 blog: http://atatsou.blogspot.com n >>> On 8/5/2008 at 1:31 PM, in message <6A6DDE8A258FF94D86A95DC1898B909E01A7BE9F@facmail3.uww.edu>, "Wiersma, Constance A" wrote: Greetings: A student who is blind is planning on taking an Astronomy introductory course at our University. The material is very visual. Has anyone had any experience with this type of coursework? The primary textbook, Universe by Freedman and Kaufmann, consists of numerous graphic representations, photographs of stars and galaxies, etc. I would very much appreciate any suggestions of how to depict this type of information for this student. We are also looking for a Braille version of this text book. Thank you for any suggestions. 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URL: From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Tue Aug 5 15:34:06 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG In-Reply-To: <014701c8f733$200413b0$600c3b10$@org> References: <009201c8f2a8$5eaa8480$7801a8c0@ad.colorado.edu><009801c8f691$6d87b440$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> <01f501c8f692$00f5b560$02e12020$@org><001901c8f732$462cb660$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> <014701c8f733$200413b0$600c3b10$@org> Message-ID: <006b01c8f74b$5edd04d0$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> I'm here all day tomorrow and Thursday if you want to do it then. -Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:41 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Either is fine by me, but probably by phone would be best. Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:34 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Importance: High Ron, et al, Can we work out the details this week? I'm trying to get the reg form posted by next week. Should we do this by phone or e-mail? -Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:27 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Sorry I did not reply, it makes sense to me as well we just need to work out the details. Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:23 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Don't think I ever saw a reply on this post. We do have other categories, but I don't think it makes a lot of sense to include those on the AHG reg form. I do like the ability to renew ATHEN membership, though. It makes it easier to keep track, for me at least. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:57 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Importance: High Hello All: This message is in particular for Ron, Dan, Pratik and the other executive officers. At CSUN, we talked about the possibility of ATHEN members renewing their memberships via AHG. In the past, interested attendees can sign up and pay for ATHEN membership through conference registration. Since they then receive a discount from the conference, it's obviously an encouragement for them to sign up at the time of registering since the conference savings almost pays for the membership. AT CSUN, we talked about expanding this to membership renewal. We could do this by changing the item "ATHEN Professional Membership" to "ATHEN Professional Membership, including ATHEN membership renewal" - or perhaps something more eloquent I or someone can come up with later. One issue with this is that only individual membership is offered through the AHG registration at this time. Are there other options that should be made available? I'm currently working on how the registration form for AHG will look in paper and on the Web, so I can incorporate any changes once I hear back. 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Lab Cambridge MA Wiersma, Constance A wrote: > > Greetings: > > A student who is blind is planning on taking an Astronomy introductory > course at our University. The material is very visual. Has anyone > had any experience with this type of coursework? The primary > textbook, /Universe/ by Freedman and Kaufmann, consists of numerous > graphic representations, photographs of stars and galaxies, etc. I > would very much appreciate any suggestions of how to depict this type > of information for this student. > > > > We are also looking for a Braille version of this text book. > > > > Thank you for any suggestions. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Connie Wiersma, Assistant Director > > Center for Students with Disabilities > > University of Wisconsin-Whitewater > > Whitewater, WI 53190 > > Ph. 262-472-5244 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Wed Aug 6 06:13:58 2008 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Useful Table of Keyboard Shortcut Keys for 234 applications Message-ID: <023f01c8f7c6$4a463700$ded2a500$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Thought you all might find this useful. Ron Dear all, We created the following table to make it easy for students and AT professionals to access lists of keyboard shortcuts to 234 commonly used applications. http://inftyreader.org/keyboardian/ Having an easily accessible and current list of keyboard shortcuts, by application, can be empowering to students using screen readers and AT professionals needing to write macros and scripts to make it easier for AT users to access applications. Feel free to distribute the URL above or to post it to your college/university disability services websites. Credits: Keyboardian.com http://www.keyboardian.com get all the credit here. They are doing a stellar job in documenting keyboard shortcuts!! Unfortunately their website is extremely difficult to access and navigate using AT.... so we boiled down 234 pages of keyboard shortcuts into one, accessible, table that is intuitive and easy-to-use. I hope this easy to access, comprehensive, listing proves as helpful to all of you as it has for the students and AT professionals we support. Sincerely, Steve :-) ---------- Steve Jacobs, President IDEAL Group, Inc. 2809 Bohlen Drive Hilliard, Ohio 43026-9012 Phone: (614) 777-0660 TDD/TTY: (800) 750-0750 Fax: (614) 259-0013 E-mail: steve.jacobs@ideal-group.org URL: http://www.ideal-group.org From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Wed Aug 6 07:21:56 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Video Relay Message-ID: <485D76DB00004936@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Hi all, Another pile of questions for you all today: who among you are using video relay interpreting? Advantages? Cost comparisons? Any drawbacks or challenges? Among the students best served by this technology, what are some of the advantages for them? What technology challenges have you run into? Thanks for your insights & recommendations as always! Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From info at karlencommunications.com Wed Aug 6 07:27:35 2008 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Info @ Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Useful Table of Keyboard Shortcut Keys for 234 applications In-Reply-To: <023f01c8f7c6$4a463700$ded2a500$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> References: <023f01c8f7c6$4a463700$ded2a500$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <002101c8f7d0$92465440$b6d2fcc0$@com> To add to the available keyboard command/accessibility resources, I've just put up a page on Office 2007 accessibility. http://www.karlencommunications.com/office-2007-accessibility.html There is a "hefty" 3.5 MB Excel workbook with all Ribbon, Sub-Ribbon, and non-Ribbon commands I could find; a handout from a TeckTalk presentation I did in February on settings you may want to adjust in Word 2007 if you are using adaptive technology; and other "stuff." Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:14 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: Useful Table of Keyboard Shortcut Keys for 234 applications Thought you all might find this useful. Ron Dear all, We created the following table to make it easy for students and AT professionals to access lists of keyboard shortcuts to 234 commonly used applications. http://inftyreader.org/keyboardian/ Having an easily accessible and current list of keyboard shortcuts, by application, can be empowering to students using screen readers and AT professionals needing to write macros and scripts to make it easier for AT users to access applications. Feel free to distribute the URL above or to post it to your college/university disability services websites. Credits: Keyboardian.com http://www.keyboardian.com get all the credit here. They are doing a stellar job in documenting keyboard shortcuts!! Unfortunately their website is extremely difficult to access and navigate using AT.... so we boiled down 234 pages of keyboard shortcuts into one, accessible, table that is intuitive and easy-to-use. I hope this easy to access, comprehensive, listing proves as helpful to all of you as it has for the students and AT professionals we support. Sincerely, Steve :-) ---------- Steve Jacobs, President IDEAL Group, Inc. 2809 Bohlen Drive Hilliard, Ohio 43026-9012 Phone: (614) 777-0660 TDD/TTY: (800) 750-0750 Fax: (614) 259-0013 E-mail: steve.jacobs@ideal-group.org URL: http://www.ideal-group.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at ahead.org Wed Aug 6 07:53:36 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] FW: Useful Table of Keyboard Shortcut Keys for 234 applications In-Reply-To: <002101c8f7d0$92465440$b6d2fcc0$@com> References: <023f01c8f7c6$4a463700$ded2a500$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> <002101c8f7d0$92465440$b6d2fcc0$@com> Message-ID: <028501c8f7d4$34442df0$9ccc89d0$@org> This is the kind of stuff it would be great to have on the Resource link of the ATHEN website. Do folk have any issues with their stuff being put up in this manner? Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Info @ Karlen Communications Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:28 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Useful Table of Keyboard Shortcut Keys for 234 applications To add to the available keyboard command/accessibility resources, I've just put up a page on Office 2007 accessibility. http://www.karlencommunications.com/office-2007-accessibility.html There is a "hefty" 3.5 MB Excel workbook with all Ribbon, Sub-Ribbon, and non-Ribbon commands I could find; a handout from a TeckTalk presentation I did in February on settings you may want to adjust in Word 2007 if you are using adaptive technology; and other "stuff." Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:14 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: Useful Table of Keyboard Shortcut Keys for 234 applications Thought you all might find this useful. Ron Dear all, We created the following table to make it easy for students and AT professionals to access lists of keyboard shortcuts to 234 commonly used applications. http://inftyreader.org/keyboardian/ Having an easily accessible and current list of keyboard shortcuts, by application, can be empowering to students using screen readers and AT professionals needing to write macros and scripts to make it easier for AT users to access applications. Feel free to distribute the URL above or to post it to your college/university disability services websites. Credits: Keyboardian.com http://www.keyboardian.com get all the credit here. They are doing a stellar job in documenting keyboard shortcuts!! Unfortunately their website is extremely difficult to access and navigate using AT.... so we boiled down 234 pages of keyboard shortcuts into one, accessible, table that is intuitive and easy-to-use. I hope this easy to access, comprehensive, listing proves as helpful to all of you as it has for the students and AT professionals we support. Sincerely, Steve :-) ---------- Steve Jacobs, President IDEAL Group, Inc. 2809 Bohlen Drive Hilliard, Ohio 43026-9012 Phone: (614) 777-0660 TDD/TTY: (800) 750-0750 Fax: (614) 259-0013 E-mail: steve.jacobs@ideal-group.org URL: http://www.ideal-group.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From info at karlencommunications.com Wed Aug 6 07:58:32 2008 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Info @ Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] FW: Useful Table of Keyboard Shortcut Keys for 234 applications In-Reply-To: <028501c8f7d4$34442df0$9ccc89d0$@org> References: <023f01c8f7c6$4a463700$ded2a500$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> <002101c8f7d0$92465440$b6d2fcc0$@com> <028501c8f7d4$34442df0$9ccc89d0$@org> Message-ID: <004501c8f7d4$e50c5fe0$af251fa0$@com> I don't have a problem with others linking to this information. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:54 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] FW: Useful Table of Keyboard Shortcut Keys for 234 applications This is the kind of stuff it would be great to have on the Resource link of the ATHEN website. Do folk have any issues with their stuff being put up in this manner? Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Info @ Karlen Communications Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:28 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Useful Table of Keyboard Shortcut Keys for 234 applications To add to the available keyboard command/accessibility resources, I've just put up a page on Office 2007 accessibility. http://www.karlencommunications.com/office-2007-accessibility.html There is a "hefty" 3.5 MB Excel workbook with all Ribbon, Sub-Ribbon, and non-Ribbon commands I could find; a handout from a TeckTalk presentation I did in February on settings you may want to adjust in Word 2007 if you are using adaptive technology; and other "stuff." Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:14 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: Useful Table of Keyboard Shortcut Keys for 234 applications Thought you all might find this useful. Ron Dear all, We created the following table to make it easy for students and AT professionals to access lists of keyboard shortcuts to 234 commonly used applications. http://inftyreader.org/keyboardian/ Having an easily accessible and current list of keyboard shortcuts, by application, can be empowering to students using screen readers and AT professionals needing to write macros and scripts to make it easier for AT users to access applications. Feel free to distribute the URL above or to post it to your college/university disability services websites. Credits: Keyboardian.com http://www.keyboardian.com get all the credit here. They are doing a stellar job in documenting keyboard shortcuts!! Unfortunately their website is extremely difficult to access and navigate using AT.... so we boiled down 234 pages of keyboard shortcuts into one, accessible, table that is intuitive and easy-to-use. I hope this easy to access, comprehensive, listing proves as helpful to all of you as it has for the students and AT professionals we support. Sincerely, Steve :-) ---------- Steve Jacobs, President IDEAL Group, Inc. 2809 Bohlen Drive Hilliard, Ohio 43026-9012 Phone: (614) 777-0660 TDD/TTY: (800) 750-0750 Fax: (614) 259-0013 E-mail: steve.jacobs@ideal-group.org URL: http://www.ideal-group.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Wed Aug 6 10:15:31 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Video Relay In-Reply-To: <485D76DB00004936@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> References: <485D76DB00004936@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <000f01c8f7e8$080e7e20$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Hi Wink, Did you get my phone message yesterday? -Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:22 AM To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; ATHEN Subject: [Athen] Video Relay Hi all, Another pile of questions for you all today: who among you are using video relay interpreting? Advantages? Cost comparisons? Any drawbacks or challenges? Among the students best served by this technology, what are some of the advantages for them? What technology challenges have you run into? Thanks for your insights & recommendations as always! Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Wed Aug 6 10:16:33 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Video Relay Message-ID: <001001c8f7e8$2cdbba10$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Sorry, that was not supposed to be a listserv message. -Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -----Original Message----- From: Howard Kramer [mailto:hkramer@colorado.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:16 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] Video Relay Hi Wink, Did you get my phone message yesterday? -Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:22 AM To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; ATHEN Subject: [Athen] Video Relay Hi all, Another pile of questions for you all today: who among you are using video relay interpreting? Advantages? Cost comparisons? Any drawbacks or challenges? Among the students best served by this technology, what are some of the advantages for them? What technology challenges have you run into? Thanks for your insights & recommendations as always! Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From hascherdss at gmail.com Wed Aug 6 11:11:12 2008 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Video Relay In-Reply-To: <485D76DB00004936@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> References: <485D76DB00004936@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <6e0d34c90808061111u48470bc5v6a8eabea17e7037c@mail.gmail.com> Hi Wink, Would you mind clarifying ... are you asking about video relay interpreting for meetings or for classroom use? There are so major differences between the two settings. Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Wink Harner wrote: > Hi all, > > Another pile of questions for you all today: who among you are using video > relay interpreting? Advantages? Cost comparisons? Any drawbacks or > challenges? > Among the students best served by this technology, what are some of the > advantages > for them? What technology challenges have you run into? > > Thanks for your insights & recommendations as always! > > Wink > > Ms. Wink Harner > Manager > Disability Resources & Services > Mesa Community College > > Ms. Wink Harner > Manager > Disability Resources & Services > Mesa Community College > Mesa AZ > > 480-461-7447 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From PKledzik at admin.usf.edu Wed Aug 6 12:49:42 2008 From: PKledzik at admin.usf.edu (Kledzik, Peggy) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Voice Amplification Message-ID: <8A4020844749CF4EAB922A9A94A57E6806AB3E26@tiki.fastmail.usf.edu> I would like to know if there is a type of amplification technology that can be used for a student who is unable to project their voice loud enough to train Dragon Dictate. This student has tried a headset but they did not work since she is unable to use her arms to reposition the headset if they fell off, or if it needed repositioning. The primary problem is that her voice is too soft to be picked up by the mike. Any help in this situation would be wonderful. Peggy Kledzik CT Coordinator/Interpreter Students with Disabilities Services University of South Florida 4202 E. Fowler Ave., SVC 1133 Tampa, FL 33620-4309 Phone: 813-974-4309 Fax: 813-974-7337 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edward at ngtvoice.com Wed Aug 6 13:12:49 2008 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Voice Amplification In-Reply-To: <8A4020844749CF4EAB922A9A94A57E6806AB3E26@tiki.fastmail.usf.edu> References: <8A4020844749CF4EAB922A9A94A57E6806AB3E26@tiki.fastmail.usf.edu> Message-ID: <015b01c8f800$ce0f3250$6a2d96f0$@com> We've used several different approaches wHere clients had similar issues. First, you might be surprised if you try using a VXI talk Pro express microphone with Andrea digital USB converter (the list price is around $133, however usually the street price is around $100)-although this is not an amplified or volume controlled microphone we find that it often has enough built-in boost with the digital converter to allow soft speaking individuals to set up Dragon NaturallySpeaking without other modifications. Additionally, if that doesn't work I believe that the Samson Airline 77 wireless microphone has controls in its base station that would allow you to control the amount of boost, and that certainly should provide you with the necessary support to set up NaturallySpeaking. I have seen people use some very 'high end' amplification technologies with NaturallySpeaking, but would use these almost as a last resort primarily because of their high expense. Hopefully others will have some good ideas for you as well. -ed. Edward S. Rosenthal, President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies Inc. 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, WA 98036 Phone: 425-744-1100 extension 15; Fax: 425-778-5547 E-Mail: edward@ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 WWW: http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document was generated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking ver. 9 speech recognition technology with the revolutionary xTag wireless microphone from revolabs. Please disregard any remaining misrecognitions. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kledzik, Peggy Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 12:50 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Voice Amplification I would like to know if there is a type of amplification technology that can be used for a student who is unable to project their voice loud enough to train Dragon Dictate. This student has tried a headset but they did not work since she is unable to use her arms to reposition the headset if they fell off, or if it needed repositioning. The primary problem is that her voice is too soft to be picked up by the mike. Any help in this situation would be wonderful. Peggy Kledzik CT Coordinator/Interpreter Students with Disabilities Services University of South Florida 4202 E. Fowler Ave., SVC 1133 Tampa, FL 33620-4309 Phone: 813-974-4309 Fax: 813-974-7337 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Wed Aug 6 15:21:08 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Video Relay In-Reply-To: <6e0d34c90808061111u48470bc5v6a8eabea17e7037c@mail.gmail.com> References: <485D76DB00004936@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> <6e0d34c90808061111u48470bc5v6a8eabea17e7037c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <489A23D4.6000902@mcmail.maricopa.edu> Classroom Thanks, Heidi. Wink Heidi Scher wrote: > Hi Wink, > > Would you mind clarifying ... are you asking about video relay > interpreting for meetings or for classroom use? There are so major > differences between the two settings. > > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > > Associate Director > > Center for Educational Access > > University of Arkansas > > ARKU 104 > > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > > 479.575.3104 > > 479.575.7445 fax > > 479.575.3646 tdd > > +++++++++++++++ > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Wink Harner > > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Another pile of questions for you all today: who among you are > using video > relay interpreting? Advantages? Cost comparisons? Any drawbacks or > challenges? > Among the students best served by this technology, what are some > of the advantages > for them? What technology challenges have you run into? > > Thanks for your insights & recommendations as always! > > Wink > > Ms. Wink Harner > Manager > Disability Resources & Services > Mesa Community College > > Ms. Wink Harner > Manager > Disability Resources & Services > Mesa Community College > Mesa AZ > > 480-461-7447 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: wink.harner.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 154 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fgsmith at vcu.edu Wed Aug 6 17:47:22 2008 From: fgsmith at vcu.edu (Frances G Smith/AC/VCU) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Frances G Smith/AC/VCU is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting Wed 08/06/2008 and will not return until Mon 08/11/2008. I will respond to your message when I return. From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Wed Aug 6 21:12:12 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Video Relay In-Reply-To: <000f01c8f7e8$080e7e20$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <485D76DB00004B56@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Howard, Thanks for the follow up. Things have been nuts (not the good kind) at the office & had to take corrective action against an employee today. Have had a crammed schedule & no time for phone calls. Thanks for your patience & perserverance in following up. I'll get in touch with the Dragon folks and find out if we can score some extra seats for a workshop training, and if not, then I will do a demo instead as we discussed today for a 1-hr. slot. Thanks again, Wink >-- Original Message -- >From: Howard Kramer >To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" >Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:15:31 -0600 >Subject: Re: [Athen] Video Relay >Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > >Hi Wink, > >Did you get my phone message yesterday? > >-Howard > >Howard Kramer >Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator >AT Conference Coordinator >Disability Services >CU-Boulder, 107 UCB >Boulder, Co 80309 >303-492-8672 > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Wink Harner >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:22 AM >To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; ATHEN >Subject: [Athen] Video Relay > >Hi all, > >Another pile of questions for you all today: who among you are using video >relay interpreting? Advantages? Cost comparisons? Any drawbacks or >challenges? >Among the students best served by this technology, what are some of the >advantages >for them? What technology challenges have you run into? > >Thanks for your insights & recommendations as always! > >Wink > >Ms. Wink Harner >Manager >Disability Resources & Services >Mesa Community College > >Ms. Wink Harner >Manager >Disability Resources & Services >Mesa Community College >Mesa AZ > >480-461-7447 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Wed Aug 6 21:13:17 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Video Relay In-Reply-To: <001001c8f7e8$2cdbba10$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <485D76DB00004B57@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> neither was mine...sorry everyone. Wink >-- Original Message -- >From: Howard Kramer >To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" >Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:16:33 -0600 >Subject: [Athen] FW: Video Relay >Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > >Sorry, that was not supposed to be a listserv message. > >-Howard > >Howard Kramer >Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator >AT Conference Coordinator >Disability Services >CU-Boulder, 107 UCB >Boulder, Co 80309 >303-492-8672 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Howard Kramer [mailto:hkramer@colorado.edu] >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:16 AM >To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' >Subject: RE: [Athen] Video Relay > >Hi Wink, > >Did you get my phone message yesterday? > >-Howard > >Howard Kramer >Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator >AT Conference Coordinator >Disability Services >CU-Boulder, 107 UCB >Boulder, Co 80309 >303-492-8672 > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Wink Harner >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:22 AM >To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; ATHEN >Subject: [Athen] Video Relay > >Hi all, > >Another pile of questions for you all today: who among you are using video >relay interpreting? Advantages? Cost comparisons? Any drawbacks or >challenges? >Among the students best served by this technology, what are some of the >advantages >for them? What technology challenges have you run into? > >Thanks for your insights & recommendations as always! > >Wink > >Ms. Wink Harner >Manager >Disability Resources & Services >Mesa Community College > >Ms. Wink Harner >Manager >Disability Resources & Services >Mesa Community College >Mesa AZ > >480-461-7447 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From dann at digilifemedia.biz Thu Aug 7 04:07:13 2008 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG In-Reply-To: <28377705.7401218107144935.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> Message-ID: <8594755.7421218107233342.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> Good morning everyone, ATHEN members would certainly welcome a way to renew their memberships when registering for the Accessing Higher Ground conference.?T his needs to be as simple a process ?as possible. The form used last year was a bit confusing to individuals trying to register f or the conference, become members AND calculate the discount. If I recall from last year,?changes to the ?form should be fairly easy to make - it's a matter of how the information is presented . It may be too cumbersome for institutions to renew using the conference form. I recommend information on the form directing Institutional Members (and those interested in becoming Institutional Memebers) to contact the Membership Coordinator directly. On the registration form there needs to be a way for attendees from Institutional Members to indicate this. This issue should be alleviated by the proposed bylaw change regarding a set membership year. Let me know if you'd like me to take a look at the draft form. Best --- Dann --------------- Daniel Berkowitz, CEO DigiLife Media, LLC 1 Bryant Avenue Bradford, MA 01835-7424 phone: ?617-512-4315 mobile: 978-914-4601 e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz web: www.digilifemedia.biz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Kramer" To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:57:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Hello All: This message is in particular for Ron, Dan, Pratik and the other executive officers. At CSUN, we talked about the possibility of ATHEN members renewing their memberships via AHG. In the past, interested attendees can sign up and pay for ATHEN membership through conference registration. Since they then receive a discount from the conference, it?s obviously an encouragement for them to sign up at the time of registering since the conference savings almost pays for the membership. AT CSUN, we talked about expanding this to membership renewal. We could do this by changing the item ?ATHEN Professional Membership? to ?ATHEN Professional Membership, including ATHEN membership renewal? ? or perhaps something more eloquent I or someone can come up with later. One issue with this is that only individual membership is offered through the AHG registration at this time. Are there other options that should be made available? I?m currently working on how the registration form for AHG will look in paper and on the Web, so I can incorporate any changes once I hear back. Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co? 80309 303-492-8672 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ron at ahead.org Thu Aug 7 06:37:51 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG In-Reply-To: <8594755.7421218107233342.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> References: <28377705.7401218107144935.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> <8594755.7421218107233342.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> Message-ID: <00c901c8f892$c9f66160$5de32420$@org> Howard can you and Dann sort this one out off list. I suggest that we only allow for individual memberships in this way. Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:07 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Good morning everyone, ATHEN members would certainly welcome a way to renew their memberships when registering for the Accessing Higher Ground conference. This needs to be as simple a process as possible. The form used last year was a bit confusing to individuals trying to register for the conference, become members AND calculate the discount. If I recall from last year, changes to the form should be fairly easy to make - it's a matter of how the information is presented. It may be too cumbersome for institutions to renew using the conference form. I recommend information on the form directing Institutional Members (and those interested in becoming Institutional Memebers) to contact the Membership Coordinator directly. On the registration form there needs to be a way for attendees from Institutional Members to indicate this. This issue should be alleviated by the proposed bylaw change regarding a set membership year. Let me know if you'd like me to take a look at the draft form. Best --- Dann --------------- Daniel Berkowitz, CEO DigiLife Media, LLC 1 Bryant Avenue Bradford, MA 01835-7424 phone: 617-512-4315 mobile: 978-914-4601 e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz web: www.digilifemedia.biz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Kramer" To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:57:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Hello All: This message is in particular for Ron, Dan, Pratik and the other executive officers. At CSUN, we talked about the possibility of ATHEN members renewing their memberships via AHG. In the past, interested attendees can sign up and pay for ATHEN membership through conference registration. Since they then receive a discount from the conference, it?s obviously an encouragement for them to sign up at the time of registering since the conference savings almost pays for the membership. AT CSUN, we talked about expanding this to membership renewal. We could do this by changing the item ?ATHEN Professional Membership? to ?ATHEN Professional Membership, including ATHEN membership renewal? ? or perhaps something more eloquent I or someone can come up with later. One issue with this is that only individual membership is offered through the AHG registration at this time. Are there other options that should be made available? I?m currently working on how the registration form for AHG will look in paper and on the Web, so I can incorporate any changes once I hear back. Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Thu Aug 7 09:00:44 2008 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Video Relay In-Reply-To: <489A23D4.6000902@mcmail.maricopa.edu> References: <485D76DB00004936@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> <6e0d34c90808061111u48470bc5v6a8eabea17e7037c@mail.gmail.com> <489A23D4.6000902@mcmail.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <6e0d34c90808070900t17d0e777x90ebb70521899b6c@mail.gmail.com> Good morning, Wink! At my previous institution, I set up video relay interpreting at one of our campuses as a back up in case no interpreter was available. (I covered 4 campuses, and one campus had no interpreters with less than an hour drive. For an 8:00 a.m. class this was a problem if the interpreter called in sick in the morning or if the student called in the morning to say she wouldn't be in class!) Some "pitfalls": VRI gives only a 2-dimensional representation of a 3-dimension language. This can impact understanding and clarity of conversation. Also, the size of the screen on which the VRI will be shown can have a tremendous impact not only on communication, but also eye fatigue of the viewer. (Bigger than a breadbox is better :-) For shorter discussions, meetings, relayed phone calls the VRI is great. But for several back-to-back classes or long classes it would be very fatiguing on the user. If you're able to find live interpreters for most classes, but have one class that you can't cover, then VRI might be an option. The university where I am currenly does not have internet coverage in all locations, which impacts where we can use VRI. For VRI, you definitely want a hard line and not wireless access. Cost comparison will depend upon the pay rate in your area for interpreters vs the charges from the VRI company. For us, using VRI was going to be three times the cost per hour vs what the top pay for freelance interpreters. (This is slowly changing in our state, but very slowly.) Our contract was for on-demand, last-minute interpreting requests, but they also gave us an educational institution discount if I recall. If we had planned on using them to cover a class regularly, it would have been a little cheaper. (I can't remember exact figures - sorry!) Service support and availability is something to consider also. How easy is the company to contact if there's a technical problem? What are their charges for assistance with on-demand, last-minute technical questions? What are their hours of operation in comparison to when you might need service assistance? If this is additional technology in the classroom, who will be responsible for setting it up for a class? Who is responsible for securing the technology when it's not in use? Who will handle problems if there are technical gliches as class begins or during the class? How willing is the instructor to work around technology gliches? (Is the instructor someone who simply continues with the class lecture without regard for the student who is not receiving the information when the technology is down?) I worked with a company out of Oregon when I set it up. They were terrific to work with, would answer lots of questions via email. Charged a specific rate for initial tech setup (with IT or whomever). I'm not coming up with any other details right now, but if I do, I'll pass them along. Hope this is helpful!!! Heidi On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Wink Harner wrote: > Classroom > > Thanks, Heidi. > > Wink > > > Heidi Scher wrote: > >> Hi Wink, >> >> Would you mind clarifying ... are you asking about video relay >> interpreting for meetings or for classroom use? There are so major >> differences between the two settings. >> >> Heidi >> >> +++++++++++++++ >> >> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC >> >> Associate Director >> >> Center for Educational Access >> >> University of Arkansas >> >> ARKU 104 >> >> Fayetteville, AR 72701 >> >> 479.575.3104 >> >> 479.575.7445 fax >> >> 479.575.3646 tdd >> >> +++++++++++++++ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Wink Harner < >> wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu > >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Another pile of questions for you all today: who among you are >> using video >> relay interpreting? Advantages? Cost comparisons? Any drawbacks or >> challenges? >> Among the students best served by this technology, what are some >> of the advantages >> for them? What technology challenges have you run into? >> >> Thanks for your insights & recommendations as always! >> >> Wink >> >> Ms. Wink Harner >> Manager >> Disability Resources & Services >> Mesa Community College >> >> Ms. Wink Harner >> Manager >> Disability Resources & Services >> Mesa Community College >> Mesa AZ >> >> 480-461-7447 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Every day there is a new FREE piece of software; about 1 in ten is something I can use. Today's software is Magnifying Glass Pro 1.7, software I once purchased and can now get free. GOTD offers free software every day, but it is only good to download and install THAT DAY. So you've got to be sharp and grab it when you see it, AND install it. If you try to install at a later date it won't activate and you won't have the software to use. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Mon Aug 11 10:47:21 2008 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Free Tool, today only In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6e0d34c90808111047q686c944xaa2bd833611f9f48@mail.gmail.com> Too cool! Thanks for sharing, Susan!!! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: > www.giveawayoftheday.com > > > > Add this site to your RSS or daily visit list. Every day there is a new > FREE piece of software; about 1 in ten is something I can use. Today's > software is Magnifying Glass Pro 1.7, software I once purchased and can now > get free. > > > > GOTD offers free software every day, but it is only good to download and > install THAT DAY. So you've got to be sharp and grab it when you see it, > AND install it. If you try to install at a later date it won't activate and > you won't have the software to use. > > > > *Susan Kelmer* > > *Adaptive Technology Specialist/* > > *Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms* > > *St. Louis Community College - Meramec* > > *314-984-7951* > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Wed Aug 13 10:27:08 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Moving from the Computer to the Web to Alternative E-texts Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080813101450.02281730@pop.gmail.com> Making information technology accessible for people with disabilities is working with a constant and rapid moving target. We have to stay nimble and be ready to change our focus. When I got into the field over 20 years ago, accessibility meant getting effective access to the computer. Then, 15 years ago, the target became providing meaningful access to the World Wide web. Neither of these have gone away, but providing texts in a highly effective accessible electronic format has now come to the forefront. Etexts have become much more common for everyone with or without disabilities. Not only are there different etext formats, but people often like to get audio books and listen on the MP3 player while running or jogging. But all these formats can be simpler than it may at first appear. A well-constructed document in one format can usually be exported to other formats without a lot of effort. (That is called repurposing a document.) Creating and Repurposing more accessible documents is an online course offered by EASI (Equal Access to Software and Information) in September. It's for lessons are: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From norm.coombs at gmail.com Wed Aug 13 21:05:26 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Public Webinar: Understand the Look of Office 2007 Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080813210218.02245360@pop.gmail.com> Understanding the New Look of Office 2007 Presenter Joel Isaac Saturday August 23 at 2 PM Eastern This presentation wil help users make the switch from Office 2003 to Office 2007 with special attention to the problems faced by users of adaptive technologies. Topics include: * The Parts Word 2007 Interface * Quick Access Toolbar * Shortcut keys * Resources This is open to the public, but you should register in advance for 2 reasons: 1 to get a seat in the Webinar room 2 to get the recorded archive afterwards http://easi.cc/clinic.htm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From ron at ahead.org Thu Aug 14 14:07:41 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: EdLabor Insider: Higher Education Opportunity Act Becomes Law Message-ID: <00d401c8fe51$ca5c93d0$5f15bb70$@org> This is very good news for the national postsecondary alt format effort. Ron Stewart ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart, Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 97 Harris Rd. 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Tim Balen Washington State University 509-335-7904 www.drc.wsu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Fri Aug 15 05:09:52 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Information on E-Text Production Database? In-Reply-To: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> References: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> Message-ID: <020e01c8fecf$d2bce7e0$7836b7a0$@org> Tim have you looked at the AMX system? This may be something that would be usable as I understand it. Also several on this list have pretty well established programs and may be willing to share their system. Too bad we lost the Oregon State system, but I do have some pieces I could share if you are interested in taking a look. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Balen, Tim Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:33 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? Colleagues, I'm looking for advice or suggestions on creating a database for tracking e-text production. We are working on one now within our office, but I am concerned it is becoming cumbersome and labor intensive. Essentially we are looking to record and store, completed text conversions, conversions in progress, time spent per conversion & per editor. Any information would be appreciated on or off the list. Thank You! Tim Balen Washington State University 509-335-7904 www.drc.wsu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From accessible.text at gmail.com Fri Aug 15 05:13:55 2008 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Information on E-Text Production Database? In-Reply-To: <020e01c8fecf$d2bce7e0$7836b7a0$@org> References: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> <020e01c8fecf$d2bce7e0$7836b7a0$@org> Message-ID: <9edf8160808150513p7b159f6cj58d3b6ca13144313@mail.gmail.com> Hi Tim, Please check out SAM, which is a new service offered by AMAC: http://www.amac.uga.edu/sam.php -- Bob On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Ron Stewart wrote: > Tim have you looked at the AMX system? This may be something that would be > usable as I understand it. Also several on this list have pretty well > established programs and may be willing to share their system. Too bad we > lost the Oregon State system, but I do have some pieces I could share if you > are interested in taking a look. > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Balen, Tim > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:33 PM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? > > > > Colleagues, > > > > I'm looking for advice or suggestions on creating a database for tracking > e-text production. We are working on one now within our office, but I am > concerned it is becoming cumbersome and labor intensive. Essentially we are > looking to record and store, completed text conversions, conversions in > progress, time spent per conversion & per editor. Any information would be > appreciated on or off the list. > > > > Thank You! > > > > Tim Balen > > > > Washington State University > > 509-335-7904 > > www.drc.wsu.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Fri Aug 15 06:27:36 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? In-Reply-To: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> References: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> Message-ID: The AMX system will work for that, but it is cumbersome as well, as you have to enter all the data. I think no matter what you come up with, you are going to have a cumbersome system. I am keeping simple records in an excel database, it seems to work for us. My conversion clerks write down how much time they spend on each particular aspect (scanning, ocr, text-cleanup) to the nearest 15-minutes. It gives me a pretty good read on how long it takes to convert things, although I don't really care as much about the little parts as I do the big picture. Our goal here is a 4-day turnaround, and if we make it within four days I'm happy, five days I'm satisfied, any more than that and I'm looking to see where we can improve. I will be presenting a lot of the information on how we do this here at the Accessing Higher Ground conference in Boulder in November. Hope you can make it, it will be a worthwhile lecture. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Balen, Tim Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:33 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? Colleagues, I'm looking for advice or suggestions on creating a database for tracking e-text production. We are working on one now within our office, but I am concerned it is becoming cumbersome and labor intensive. Essentially we are looking to record and store, completed text conversions, conversions in progress, time spent per conversion & per editor. Any information would be appreciated on or off the list. Thank You! Tim Balen Washington State University 509-335-7904 www.drc.wsu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Fri Aug 15 06:51:56 2008 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? In-Reply-To: References: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> Message-ID: <6e0d34c90808150651s21961c71m3316b6b8d1b6c91e@mail.gmail.com> We are using the MS SharePoint which is working well for us. Each worker "punches in" on a project (book) for a specific task (such as scanning, ABBYYing, editing, binding and specifies which section of the book). When they finish the task or their work day, they punch out. Thus, we don't have anyone having to manually calculate time spent on each activity. The data is saved in spreadsheets behind the scene and either the lab manager or myself can dump it into a separate spreadsheet to calculate stats of the info - by project (book), by specific task, by person, etc. Since our lab workers also assist with several other tasks within our department that are not related to conversion, it's really helped us identify just how much time they are actually each area of responsibility. Happy Friday all! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: > The AMX system will work for that, but it is cumbersome as well, as you > have to enter all the data. I think no matter what you come up with, you > are going to have a cumbersome system. > > > > I am keeping simple records in an excel database, it seems to work for us. > My conversion clerks write down how much time they spend on each particular > aspect (scanning, ocr, text-cleanup) to the nearest 15-minutes. It gives me > a pretty good read on how long it takes to convert things, although I don't > really care as much about the little parts as I do the big picture. Our > goal here is a 4-day turnaround, and if we make it within four days I'm > happy, five days I'm satisfied, any more than that and I'm looking to see > where we can improve. > > > > I will be presenting a lot of the information on how we do this here at the > Accessing Higher Ground conference in Boulder in November. Hope you can > make it, it will be a worthwhile lecture. > > > > *Susan Kelmer* > > *Adaptive Technology Specialist/* > > *Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms* > > *St. Louis Community College - Meramec* > > *314-984-7951* > > > > *From:* athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] *On > Behalf Of *Balen, Tim > *Sent:* Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:33 PM > *To:* athen@athenpro.org > *Subject:* [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? > > > > Colleagues, > > > > I'm looking for advice or suggestions on creating a database for tracking > e-text production. We are working on one now within our office, but I am > concerned it is becoming cumbersome and labor intensive. Essentially we are > looking to record and store, completed text conversions, conversions in > progress, time spent per conversion & per editor. Any information would be > appreciated on or off the list. > > > > Thank You! > > > > Tim Balen > > > > Washington State University > > 509-335-7904 > > www.drc.wsu.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Fri Aug 15 06:58:52 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? In-Reply-To: <6e0d34c90808150651s21961c71m3316b6b8d1b6c91e@mail.gmail.com> References: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> <6e0d34c90808150651s21961c71m3316b6b8d1b6c91e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Makes me wish we'd get a Sharepoint Guru on this campus...my department IT) has been clamoring for this for several years but it's no closer to happening than when we first started asking for it. We are at the mercy of the "head office" on this one, and they are surprisingly unconcerned about academics and student support. That's the problem with multiple campuses and a "headquarters" located not anywhere near a campus and run by people that have never worked on a campus. Ooops. Did I say that out loud? You can probably tell what kind of week I've been having... Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 8:52 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? We are using the MS SharePoint which is working well for us. Each worker "punches in" on a project (book) for a specific task (such as scanning, ABBYYing, editing, binding and specifies which section of the book). When they finish the task or their work day, they punch out. Thus, we don't have anyone having to manually calculate time spent on each activity. The data is saved in spreadsheets behind the scene and either the lab manager or myself can dump it into a separate spreadsheet to calculate stats of the info - by project (book), by specific task, by person, etc. Since our lab workers also assist with several other tasks within our department that are not related to conversion, it's really helped us identify just how much time they are actually each area of responsibility. Happy Friday all! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: The AMX system will work for that, but it is cumbersome as well, as you have to enter all the data. I think no matter what you come up with, you are going to have a cumbersome system. I am keeping simple records in an excel database, it seems to work for us. My conversion clerks write down how much time they spend on each particular aspect (scanning, ocr, text-cleanup) to the nearest 15-minutes. It gives me a pretty good read on how long it takes to convert things, although I don't really care as much about the little parts as I do the big picture. Our goal here is a 4-day turnaround, and if we make it within four days I'm happy, five days I'm satisfied, any more than that and I'm looking to see where we can improve. I will be presenting a lot of the information on how we do this here at the Accessing Higher Ground conference in Boulder in November. Hope you can make it, it will be a worthwhile lecture. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Balen, Tim Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:33 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? Colleagues, I'm looking for advice or suggestions on creating a database for tracking e-text production. We are working on one now within our office, but I am concerned it is becoming cumbersome and labor intensive. Essentially we are looking to record and store, completed text conversions, conversions in progress, time spent per conversion & per editor. Any information would be appreciated on or off the list. Thank You! Tim Balen Washington State University 509-335-7904 www.drc.wsu.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at kckcc.edu Fri Aug 15 08:09:51 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? In-Reply-To: <6e0d34c90808150651s21961c71m3316b6b8d1b6c91e@mail.gmail.com> References: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> <6e0d34c90808150651s21961c71m3316b6b8d1b6c91e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48A555EF020000CF00019D33@mymail.kckcc.edu> Heidi, Is SharePoint accessible for screen readers? I've been told it isn't, but haven't tried it myself. Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Heidi Scher" 8/15/2008 8:51 AM >>> We are using the MS SharePoint which is working well for us. Each worker "punches in" on a project (book) for a specific task (such as scanning, ABBYYing, editing, binding and specifies which section of the book). When they finish the task or their work day, they punch out. Thus, we don't have anyone having to manually calculate time spent on each activity. The data is saved in spreadsheets behind the scene and either the lab manager or myself can dump it into a separate spreadsheet to calculate stats of the info - by project (book), by specific task, by person, etc. Since our lab workers also assist with several other tasks within our department that are not related to conversion, it's really helped us identify just how much time they are actually each area of responsibility. Happy Friday all! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: > The AMX system will work for that, but it is cumbersome as well, as you > have to enter all the data. I think no matter what you come up with, you > are going to have a cumbersome system. > > > > I am keeping simple records in an excel database, it seems to work for us. > My conversion clerks write down how much time they spend on each particular > aspect (scanning, ocr, text-cleanup) to the nearest 15-minutes. It gives me > a pretty good read on how long it takes to convert things, although I don't > really care as much about the little parts as I do the big picture. Our > goal here is a 4-day turnaround, and if we make it within four days I'm > happy, five days I'm satisfied, any more than that and I'm looking to see > where we can improve. > > > > I will be presenting a lot of the information on how we do this here at the > Accessing Higher Ground conference in Boulder in November. Hope you can > make it, it will be a worthwhile lecture. > > > > *Susan Kelmer* > > *Adaptive Technology Specialist/* > > *Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms* > > *St. Louis Community College - Meramec* > > *314-984-7951* > > > > *From:* athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] *On > Behalf Of *Balen, Tim > *Sent:* Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:33 PM > *To:* athen@athenpro.org > *Subject:* [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? > > > > Colleagues, > > > > I'm looking for advice or suggestions on creating a database for tracking > e-text production. We are working on one now within our office, but I am > concerned it is becoming cumbersome and labor intensive. Essentially we are > looking to record and store, completed text conversions, conversions in > progress, time spent per conversion & per editor. Any information would be > appreciated on or off the list. > > > > Thank You! > > > > Tim Balen > > > > Washington State University > > 509-335-7904 > > www.drc.wsu.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > From ron at ahead.org Fri Aug 15 08:10:52 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? In-Reply-To: References: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> Message-ID: <02b401c8fee9$1b85d590$529180b0$@org> We all come at this from a little different perspective, >From my experience when you exceed about 50k pages per academic period I don't think excel can continue to give you the level of detail and data collection your administration is going to require if they take a look at your resource expenditure. A more sophisticated system will also provide you with a good tracking system for your entire program from book tracking, Copywrite oversight and tracking your workers. Gaeir and I discuss this in some depth in our "Advanced" Etext Institute which will also be offered at AHG in November as well as other times during the coming year. I am looking at model systems to add to the AHEAD resource site as well. Perhaps a move to Access, as we did initially at OSU will take you to the next level but eventually I think a real database is going to be needed. MySQL served us well after some fits and starts for several years and provided not only alt format, but captioning and AT tracking as well across a large system. SharePoint is great if you can afford it. AMAC as Bob mentioned has one of the most sophisticated systems I have seen and while it may be overkill for a lot I think it is worth taking a look at along with the system the CSU-CAM has developed. What you want to avoid at all costs is having to go back and reinvent the wheel several times as your program grows and develops. Also as more regional centers and consortia develop having a system that is easily integrated into the larger systems already in place is going to save a lot of us a lot of headaches down the road. Lessons learned the hard way, or from someone else's trials and tribulations are the best lessons, or as Einstein so apply put: Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:28 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? The AMX system will work for that, but it is cumbersome as well, as you have to enter all the data. I think no matter what you come up with, you are going to have a cumbersome system. I am keeping simple records in an excel database, it seems to work for us. My conversion clerks write down how much time they spend on each particular aspect (scanning, ocr, text-cleanup) to the nearest 15-minutes. It gives me a pretty good read on how long it takes to convert things, although I don't really care as much about the little parts as I do the big picture. Our goal here is a 4-day turnaround, and if we make it within four days I'm happy, five days I'm satisfied, any more than that and I'm looking to see where we can improve. I will be presenting a lot of the information on how we do this here at the Accessing Higher Ground conference in Boulder in November. Hope you can make it, it will be a worthwhile lecture. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Balen, Tim Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:33 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? Colleagues, I'm looking for advice or suggestions on creating a database for tracking e-text production. We are working on one now within our office, but I am concerned it is becoming cumbersome and labor intensive. Essentially we are looking to record and store, completed text conversions, conversions in progress, time spent per conversion & per editor. Any information would be appreciated on or off the list. Thank You! Tim Balen Washington State University 509-335-7904 www.drc.wsu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Fri Aug 15 11:12:00 2008 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? In-Reply-To: <02b401c8fee9$1b85d590$529180b0$@org> References: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> <02b401c8fee9$1b85d590$529180b0$@org> Message-ID: <6e0d34c90808151112l15fdc08dtbee46248610ac7a6@mail.gmail.com> While I do like SharePoint, it definitely has it's downside as well. I'm looking forward to hearing what Ron & Gaeir have to say in hte advanced etext institute! Robert, I have to admit that I haven't checked screenreader access on SharePoint. My initial guess would be if there is any access, it's going to be limited. But that's only a guess! Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend! On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Ron Stewart wrote: > We all come at this from a little different perspective, > > > > From my experience when you exceed about 50k pages per academic period I > don't think excel can continue to give you the level of detail and data > collection your administration is going to require if they take a look at > your resource expenditure. A more sophisticated system will also provide > you with a good tracking system for your entire program from book tracking, > Copywrite oversight and tracking your workers. Gaeir and I discuss this in > some depth in our "Advanced" Etext Institute which will also be offered at > AHG in November as well as other times during the coming year. I am looking > at model systems to add to the AHEAD resource site as well. > > > > Perhaps a move to Access, as we did initially at OSU will take you to the > next level but eventually I think a real database is going to be needed. > MySQL served us well after some fits and starts for several years and > provided not only alt format, but captioning and AT tracking as well across > a large system. SharePoint is great if you can afford it. AMAC as Bob > mentioned has one of the most sophisticated systems I have seen and while it > may be overkill for a lot I think it is worth taking a look at along with > the system the CSU-CAM has developed. > > > > What you want to avoid at all costs is having to go back and reinvent the > wheel several times as your program grows and develops. Also as more > regional centers and consortia develop having a system that is easily > integrated into the larger systems already in place is going to save a lot > of us a lot of headaches down the road. > > > > Lessons learned the hard way, or from someone else's trials and > tribulations are the best lessons, or as Einstein so apply put: > > > > Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different > results. > > Ron Stewart > > > > *From:* athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] *On > Behalf Of *Kelmer, Susan M. > *Sent:* Friday, August 15, 2008 9:28 AM > *To:* Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? > > > > The AMX system will work for that, but it is cumbersome as well, as you > have to enter all the data. I think no matter what you come up with, you > are going to have a cumbersome system. > > > > I am keeping simple records in an excel database, it seems to work for us. > My conversion clerks write down how much time they spend on each particular > aspect (scanning, ocr, text-cleanup) to the nearest 15-minutes. It gives me > a pretty good read on how long it takes to convert things, although I don't > really care as much about the little parts as I do the big picture. Our > goal here is a 4-day turnaround, and if we make it within four days I'm > happy, five days I'm satisfied, any more than that and I'm looking to see > where we can improve. > > > > I will be presenting a lot of the information on how we do this here at the > Accessing Higher Ground conference in Boulder in November. Hope you can > make it, it will be a worthwhile lecture. > > > > *Susan Kelmer* > > *Adaptive Technology Specialist/* > > *Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms* > > *St. Louis Community College - Meramec* > > *314-984-7951* > > > > *From:* athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] *On > Behalf Of *Balen, Tim > *Sent:* Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:33 PM > *To:* athen@athenpro.org > *Subject:* [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? > > > > Colleagues, > > > > I'm looking for advice or suggestions on creating a database for tracking > e-text production. We are working on one now within our office, but I am > concerned it is becoming cumbersome and labor intensive. Essentially we are > looking to record and store, completed text conversions, conversions in > progress, time spent per conversion & per editor. Any information would be > appreciated on or off the list. > > > > Thank You! > > > > Tim Balen > > > > Washington State University > > 509-335-7904 > > www.drc.wsu.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kerscher at montana.com Sat Aug 16 09:29:46 2008 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? In-Reply-To: <02b401c8fee9$1b85d590$529180b0$@org> References: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> <02b401c8fee9$1b85d590$529180b0$@org> Message-ID: <006f01c8ffbd$5723e090$056ba1b0$@com> Ron, You might want to post a message on the DAISY technical Development list about this. I recall that some of the larger organizations have developed systems, which I think are open and sharable. It seems that it might be worth the time to identify the requirements and look into developing a scaleable system that could be used in the smaller DSS offices all the way up to the large ones. Starting with pulling in database records on the title, probably by ISBN, so you don't need to hand enter all that data, assign to a particular type of production, tracking time, status, etc. Just my $.02 Best George From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:11 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? We all come at this from a little different perspective, >From my experience when you exceed about 50k pages per academic period I don't think excel can continue to give you the level of detail and data collection your administration is going to require if they take a look at your resource expenditure. A more sophisticated system will also provide you with a good tracking system for your entire program from book tracking, Copywrite oversight and tracking your workers. Gaeir and I discuss this in some depth in our "Advanced" Etext Institute which will also be offered at AHG in November as well as other times during the coming year. I am looking at model systems to add to the AHEAD resource site as well. Perhaps a move to Access, as we did initially at OSU will take you to the next level but eventually I think a real database is going to be needed. MySQL served us well after some fits and starts for several years and provided not only alt format, but captioning and AT tracking as well across a large system. SharePoint is great if you can afford it. AMAC as Bob mentioned has one of the most sophisticated systems I have seen and while it may be overkill for a lot I think it is worth taking a look at along with the system the CSU-CAM has developed. What you want to avoid at all costs is having to go back and reinvent the wheel several times as your program grows and develops. Also as more regional centers and consortia develop having a system that is easily integrated into the larger systems already in place is going to save a lot of us a lot of headaches down the road. Lessons learned the hard way, or from someone else's trials and tribulations are the best lessons, or as Einstein so apply put: Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:28 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? The AMX system will work for that, but it is cumbersome as well, as you have to enter all the data. I think no matter what you come up with, you are going to have a cumbersome system. I am keeping simple records in an excel database, it seems to work for us. My conversion clerks write down how much time they spend on each particular aspect (scanning, ocr, text-cleanup) to the nearest 15-minutes. It gives me a pretty good read on how long it takes to convert things, although I don't really care as much about the little parts as I do the big picture. Our goal here is a 4-day turnaround, and if we make it within four days I'm happy, five days I'm satisfied, any more than that and I'm looking to see where we can improve. I will be presenting a lot of the information on how we do this here at the Accessing Higher Ground conference in Boulder in November. Hope you can make it, it will be a worthwhile lecture. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Balen, Tim Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:33 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? Colleagues, I'm looking for advice or suggestions on creating a database for tracking e-text production. We are working on one now within our office, but I am concerned it is becoming cumbersome and labor intensive. Essentially we are looking to record and store, completed text conversions, conversions in progress, time spent per conversion & per editor. Any information would be appreciated on or off the list. Thank You! Tim Balen Washington State University 509-335-7904 www.drc.wsu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Sat Aug 16 10:45:47 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Information on E-Text Production Database? In-Reply-To: <006f01c8ffbd$5723e090$056ba1b0$@com> References: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> <02b401c8fee9$1b85d590$529180b0$@org> <006f01c8ffbd$5723e090$056ba1b0$@com> Message-ID: <000601c8ffc7$edddf3e0$c999dba0$@org> Thanks George, I have been having similar thoughts as we move the postsecondary efforts forward. Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:30 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? Ron, You might want to post a message on the DAISY technical Development list about this. I recall that some of the larger organizations have developed systems, which I think are open and sharable. It seems that it might be worth the time to identify the requirements and look into developing a scaleable system that could be used in the smaller DSS offices all the way up to the large ones. Starting with pulling in database records on the title, probably by ISBN, so you don't need to hand enter all that data, assign to a particular type of production, tracking time, status, etc. Just my $.02 Best George From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:11 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? We all come at this from a little different perspective, >From my experience when you exceed about 50k pages per academic period I don't think excel can continue to give you the level of detail and data collection your administration is going to require if they take a look at your resource expenditure. A more sophisticated system will also provide you with a good tracking system for your entire program from book tracking, Copywrite oversight and tracking your workers. Gaeir and I discuss this in some depth in our "Advanced" Etext Institute which will also be offered at AHG in November as well as other times during the coming year. I am looking at model systems to add to the AHEAD resource site as well. Perhaps a move to Access, as we did initially at OSU will take you to the next level but eventually I think a real database is going to be needed. MySQL served us well after some fits and starts for several years and provided not only alt format, but captioning and AT tracking as well across a large system. SharePoint is great if you can afford it. AMAC as Bob mentioned has one of the most sophisticated systems I have seen and while it may be overkill for a lot I think it is worth taking a look at along with the system the CSU-CAM has developed. What you want to avoid at all costs is having to go back and reinvent the wheel several times as your program grows and develops. Also as more regional centers and consortia develop having a system that is easily integrated into the larger systems already in place is going to save a lot of us a lot of headaches down the road. Lessons learned the hard way, or from someone else's trials and tribulations are the best lessons, or as Einstein so apply put: Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:28 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? The AMX system will work for that, but it is cumbersome as well, as you have to enter all the data. I think no matter what you come up with, you are going to have a cumbersome system. I am keeping simple records in an excel database, it seems to work for us. My conversion clerks write down how much time they spend on each particular aspect (scanning, ocr, text-cleanup) to the nearest 15-minutes. It gives me a pretty good read on how long it takes to convert things, although I don't really care as much about the little parts as I do the big picture. Our goal here is a 4-day turnaround, and if we make it within four days I'm happy, five days I'm satisfied, any more than that and I'm looking to see where we can improve. I will be presenting a lot of the information on how we do this here at the Accessing Higher Ground conference in Boulder in November. Hope you can make it, it will be a worthwhile lecture. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Balen, Tim Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:33 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? Colleagues, I'm looking for advice or suggestions on creating a database for tracking e-text production. We are working on one now within our office, but I am concerned it is becoming cumbersome and labor intensive. Essentially we are looking to record and store, completed text conversions, conversions in progress, time spent per conversion & per editor. Any information would be appreciated on or off the list. Thank You! Tim Balen Washington State University 509-335-7904 www.drc.wsu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Sat Aug 16 17:48:22 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Information on E-Text Production Database? In-Reply-To: <000601c8ffc7$edddf3e0$c999dba0$@org> Message-ID: <485D76DB00005E21@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Have any of you tried Google docs for handling this type of file management across multiple offices/sites? Wink >-- Original Message -- >From: "Ron Stewart" >To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" >Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:45:47 -0400 >Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Information on E-Text Production Database? >Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > >Thanks George, I have been having similar thoughts as we move the >postsecondary efforts forward. > > > >Ron > > > >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of George Kerscher >Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:30 PM >To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' >Subject: Re: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? > > > >Ron, > > > >You might want to post a message on the DAISY technical Development list >about this. I recall that some of the larger organizations have developed >systems, which I think are open and sharable. It seems that it might be >worth the time to identify the requirements and look into developing a >scaleable system that could be used in the smaller DSS offices all the way >up to the large ones. Starting with pulling in database records on the >title, probably by ISBN, so you don't need to hand enter all that data, >assign to a particular type of production, tracking time, status, etc. > > > > > >Just my $.02 > > > >Best > >George > > > > > >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Ron Stewart >Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:11 AM >To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' >Subject: Re: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? > > > >We all come at this from a little different perspective, > > > >>From my experience when you exceed about 50k pages per academic period I >don't think excel can continue to give you the level of detail and data >collection your administration is going to require if they take a look at >your resource expenditure. A more sophisticated system will also provide >you with a good tracking system for your entire program from book tracking, >Copywrite oversight and tracking your workers. Gaeir and I discuss this >in >some depth in our "Advanced" Etext Institute which will also be offered at >AHG in November as well as other times during the coming year. I am looking >at model systems to add to the AHEAD resource site as well. > > > >Perhaps a move to Access, as we did initially at OSU will take you to the >next level but eventually I think a real database is going to be needed. >MySQL served us well after some fits and starts for several years and >provided not only alt format, but captioning and AT tracking as well across >a large system. SharePoint is great if you can afford it. AMAC as Bob >mentioned has one of the most sophisticated systems I have seen and while >it >may be overkill for a lot I think it is worth taking a look at along with >the system the CSU-CAM has developed. > > > >What you want to avoid at all costs is having to go back and reinvent the >wheel several times as your program grows and develops. Also as more >regional centers and consortia develop having a system that is easily >integrated into the larger systems already in place is going to save a lot >of us a lot of headaches down the road. > > > >Lessons learned the hard way, or from someone else's trials and tribulations >are the best lessons, or as Einstein so apply put: > > > >Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different >results. > >Ron Stewart > > > >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. >Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:28 AM >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >Subject: Re: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? > > > >The AMX system will work for that, but it is cumbersome as well, as you have >to enter all the data. I think no matter what you come up with, you are >going to have a cumbersome system. > > > >I am keeping simple records in an excel database, it seems to work for us. >My conversion clerks write down how much time they spend on each particular >aspect (scanning, ocr, text-cleanup) to the nearest 15-minutes. It gives >me >a pretty good read on how long it takes to convert things, although I don't >really care as much about the little parts as I do the big picture. Our >goal here is a 4-day turnaround, and if we make it within four days I'm >happy, five days I'm satisfied, any more than that and I'm looking to see >where we can improve. > > > >I will be presenting a lot of the information on how we do this here at the >Accessing Higher Ground conference in Boulder in November. Hope you can >make it, it will be a worthwhile lecture. > > > >Susan Kelmer > >Adaptive Technology Specialist/ > >Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms > >St. Louis Community College - Meramec > >314-984-7951 > > > >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Balen, Tim >Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:33 PM >To: athen@athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? > > > >Colleagues, > > > >I'm looking for advice or suggestions on creating a database for tracking >e-text production. We are working on one now within our office, but I am >concerned it is becoming cumbersome and labor intensive. Essentially we >are >looking to record and store, completed text conversions, conversions in >progress, time spent per conversion & per editor. Any information would >be >appreciated on or off the list. > > > >Thank You! > > > >Tim Balen > > > >Washington State University > >509-335-7904 > >www.drc.wsu.edu > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From skeegan at htctu.net Mon Aug 18 00:06:03 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? In-Reply-To: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> References: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> Message-ID: <48A91F5B.5020407@htctu.net> > I?m looking for advice or suggestions on creating a database for > tracking e-text production. There have been a lot of good suggestions already about developing an e-text database for tracking production. You have a few options depending on how complex or simple you want to make your system. Some additional thoughts: Functionality and Workflow Consider exactly what you want the system to do. This sounds simple, but generally requires some iterative process of figuring out what you are currently doing, comparing that to what you want, and then making changes to both. You mentioned your essential features, but what is your workflow and how do these essential features interact with current operations? Do you want individuals to be able to access this system from any office on campus, from a single computer, etc.? What types of reports are you looking to create for administrative purposes? Technical Resources You can probably develop something in-house using a simple database program like Filemaker or Access, or a spreadsheet program (Excel). If you want to build scalability and flexibility from the start, then a Web-based interface with a database back-end provides a lot of options (LAMP configurations, MS SQL Server/SharePoint, etc.). Having someone on staff who knows these systems is a big advantage. Just make sure to provide sufficient release time for not only developing, but maintaining the system. If going with a customized Web-based system, make sure to get the code documented! As I mentioned before, there are a lot of good suggestions that have already been posted and these are intended to give more to consider (lucky you!). I am not sure if you are interested in specific data that you want to track (e.g., ISBN, Author, etc.), but when you get to that point, feel free to ask. Take care, Sean From ron at ahead.org Tue Aug 19 04:52:44 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Life's Journeys Message-ID: <000001c901f2$18bc0b20$4a342160$@org> Hi all, Some of you may already know, but some may not. Some may not care, but I know some that do. So let me share with you the latest news, and if you would please update my contact if you desire. 14-Aug-2008 The Dolphin Group would like to announce that effective August 31, 2008 VP of Operations Ron Stewart will be leaving Dolphin Computer Access Inc, our US subsidiary, to return to his work as a private consultant in the areas of Alternative Format Production and Educational Technology Access. Ron will continue to work with Dolphin as a Consultant. Dolphin would like to thank Ron for his many contributions over the past two years, but in particular for his leadership of our Alt Format efforts. We look forward to the role he will continue to play in our global efforts to ensure curricular access for all individuals with visual and print disabilities. Have a great day everyone, remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never know how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something to look forward to in the morning! Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabilities Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 97 Harris Rd Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 609 799-7552 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Does anyone know of a way to get around the gatekeepers, so as to have a meaningful dialog with eBay about this? Thanks for any thoughts, Al Puzzuoli Information Technologist Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 http://www.rcpd.msu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Tue Aug 19 07:23:31 2008 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessibility issues with eBay's "new search experience" In-Reply-To: References: <000001c901f2$18bc0b20$4a342160$@org> Message-ID: <004801c90207$290bde00$7b239a00$@com> Al, Do you have a web site where we can test this? Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:55 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] accessibility issues with eBay's "new search experience" Has anyone seen the public beta of eBay's new search experience? I'm not sure if this is the final cut in terms of how the page will be formatted; but if the page stays the way it is, it will represent a serious step back in terms of accessibility. in the current UI, results are displayed very accessibly. Each item has its own heading, so quick navigation between items is a breeze. The new UI actually reminds me of the UI from a few years ago. Using a screen reader, I can't see any quick way to jump into the search results list, and There don't seem to be any navigable elements which would allow for quickly skimming through items. Does anyone know of a way to get around the gatekeepers, so as to have a meaningful dialog with eBay about this? Thanks for any thoughts, Al Puzzuoli Information Technologist Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 http://www.rcpd.msu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpuzz at msu.edu Tue Aug 19 07:39:46 2008 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessibility issues with eBay's "new search experience" References: <000001c901f2$18bc0b20$4a342160$@org> <004801c90207$290bde00$7b239a00$@com> Message-ID: A couple days ago, when I logged onto eBay, there was a link that said something like "participate in the beta of eBay's new search experience." Ever since clicking that link, I am redirected to the new search page, although the main URL stays the same. I think it's just a cookie that's dictating how the page will be displayed; However, if you're not seeing the link on the main eBay site to opt into the test, then I'm not sure how you would go about accessing it. Is anyone else seeing the link I'm talking about? Al ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:24 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] accessibility issues with eBay's "new search experience" Al, Do you have a web site where we can test this? Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:55 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] accessibility issues with eBay's "new search experience" Has anyone seen the public beta of eBay's new search experience? I'm not sure if this is the final cut in terms of how the page will be formatted; but if the page stays the way it is, it will represent a serious step back in terms of accessibility. in the current UI, results are displayed very accessibly. Each item has its own heading, so quick navigation between items is a breeze. The new UI actually reminds me of the UI from a few years ago. Using a screen reader, I can't see any quick way to jump into the search results list, and There don't seem to be any navigable elements which would allow for quickly skimming through items. Does anyone know of a way to get around the gatekeepers, so as to have a meaningful dialog with eBay about this? Thanks for any thoughts, Al Puzzuoli Information Technologist Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 http://www.rcpd.msu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Tue Aug 19 07:48:41 2008 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessibility issues with eBay's "new search experience" In-Reply-To: References: <000001c901f2$18bc0b20$4a342160$@org> <004801c90207$290bde00$7b239a00$@com> Message-ID: <006601c9020a$ad1f7be0$075e73a0$@com> Al, Can you post the link from your address bar? Perhaps, just perhaps, that link will take us to the new search. P From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:40 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] accessibility issues with eBay's "new search experience" A couple days ago, when I logged onto eBay, there was a link that said something like "participate in the beta of eBay's new search experience." Ever since clicking that link, I am redirected to the new search page, although the main URL stays the same. I think it's just a cookie that's dictating how the page will be displayed; However, if you're not seeing the link on the main eBay site to opt into the test, then I'm not sure how you would go about accessing it. Is anyone else seeing the link I'm talking about? Al _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:24 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] accessibility issues with eBay's "new search experience" Al, Do you have a web site where we can test this? Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:55 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] accessibility issues with eBay's "new search experience" Has anyone seen the public beta of eBay's new search experience? I'm not sure if this is the final cut in terms of how the page will be formatted; but if the page stays the way it is, it will represent a serious step back in terms of accessibility. in the current UI, results are displayed very accessibly. Each item has its own heading, so quick navigation between items is a breeze. The new UI actually reminds me of the UI from a few years ago. Using a screen reader, I can't see any quick way to jump into the search results list, and There don't seem to be any navigable elements which would allow for quickly skimming through items. Does anyone know of a way to get around the gatekeepers, so as to have a meaningful dialog with eBay about this? Thanks for any thoughts, Al Puzzuoli Information Technologist Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 http://www.rcpd.msu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpuzz at msu.edu Tue Aug 19 08:03:07 2008 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessibility issues with eBay's "new search experience" References: <000001c901f2$18bc0b20$4a342160$@org><004801c90207$290bde00$7b239a00$@com> <006601c9020a$ad1f7be0$075e73a0$@com> Message-ID: Below is an URL containing an example of a search I just did: http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38.l1313&_nkw=q9m&_sacat=See-Al l-Categories Al -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdausch at notes.cc.sunysb.edu Tue Aug 19 08:16:44 2008 From: gdausch at notes.cc.sunysb.edu (gdausch@notes.cc.sunysb.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessibility issues with eBay's "new search experience" In-Reply-To: References: <000001c901f2$18bc0b20$4a342160$@org><004801c90207$290bde00$7b239a00$@com> <006601c9020a$ad1f7be0$075e73a0$@com> Message-ID: Hello, I'm testing the site with JFW9. While not perfect, you can use the graphics and anchor shortcut keys to move through. Graphics take you through the picture of the items and the anchor takes you through by time remaining. I certainly prefer the heading navigation. Hope this helps, Glenn Glenn Dausch Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Support Services 128 Educational Communications Center Stony Brook University Stony Brook, NY 11794-2662 631 632 6548 From: "Al Puzzuoli" To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Date: 08/19/2008 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Athen] accessibility issues with eBay's "new search experience" Below is an URL containing an example of a search I just did: http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38.l1313&_nkw=q9m&_sacat=See-All-Categories Al _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From rmhaven at stanford.edu Tue Aug 19 09:13:18 2008 From: rmhaven at stanford.edu (rmhaven@stanford.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Life's Journeys In-Reply-To: <000001c901f2$18bc0b20$4a342160$@org> References: <000001c901f2$18bc0b20$4a342160$@org> Message-ID: <20080819091318.49mlbh3fa8gc8cgw@webmail.stanford.edu> I particularly like your closing sentiment, Ron -- yes, it feels good to look forward to something in the morning. Thanks for the reminder. As someone who just took the leap back to private consulting herself, I wish you all the best in your new direction, and along Life's Journeys in general. - Shelley Haven Quoting Ron Stewart : > Hi all, > > Some of you may already know, but some may not. Some may not care, but I > know some that do. So let me share with you the latest news, and if you > would please update my contact if you desire. > > 14-Aug-2008 > > The Dolphin Group would like to announce that effective August 31, 2008 VP > of Operations Ron Stewart will be leaving Dolphin Computer Access Inc, our > US subsidiary, to return to his work as a private consultant in the areas of > Alternative Format Production and Educational Technology Access. Ron will > continue to work with Dolphin as a Consultant. > Dolphin would like to thank Ron for his many contributions over the past two > years, but in particular for his leadership of our Alt Format efforts. We > look forward to the role he will continue to play in our global efforts to > ensure curricular access for all individuals with visual and print > disabilities. > > Have a great day everyone, remember you are making a difference in someone's > life and you never know how your time and efforts will be passed forward. > That is something to look forward to in the morning! > > Ron > > ********************************************************************* > Ron Stewart MS > Technology Advisor > Association on Higher Education and Disabilities > Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group > > 97 Harris Rd > Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > Fax: 609 799-7552 > > ron@ahead.org > http://www.ahead.org > > > > From ron at ahead.org Tue Aug 19 09:27:35 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Life's Journeys In-Reply-To: <20080819091318.49mlbh3fa8gc8cgw@webmail.stanford.edu> References: <000001c901f2$18bc0b20$4a342160$@org> <20080819091318.49mlbh3fa8gc8cgw@webmail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <013601c90218$8017bdc0$80473940$@org> Thanks this was brought home to me again recently when I was teaching a class as a quest lecturer. A non-traditional student, with tears in her eyes, told us that we had given her hope back to her for the first time since she had lost her sight do to abuse. She felt she had a future now and that through the technology we had introduced her to she felt she could truly learn. I can share dozens of similar stories, as can many of you, and for me that is what life is all about! Ron -----Original Message----- From: rmhaven@stanford.edu [mailto:rmhaven@stanford.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:13 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; Ron Stewart Subject: Re: [Athen] Life's Journeys I particularly like your closing sentiment, Ron -- yes, it feels good to look forward to something in the morning. Thanks for the reminder. As someone who just took the leap back to private consulting herself, I wish you all the best in your new direction, and along Life's Journeys in general. - Shelley Haven Quoting Ron Stewart : > Hi all, > > Some of you may already know, but some may not. Some may not care, but I > know some that do. So let me share with you the latest news, and if you > would please update my contact if you desire. > > 14-Aug-2008 > > The Dolphin Group would like to announce that effective August 31, 2008 VP > of Operations Ron Stewart will be leaving Dolphin Computer Access Inc, our > US subsidiary, to return to his work as a private consultant in the areas of > Alternative Format Production and Educational Technology Access. Ron will > continue to work with Dolphin as a Consultant. > Dolphin would like to thank Ron for his many contributions over the past two > years, but in particular for his leadership of our Alt Format efforts. We > look forward to the role he will continue to play in our global efforts to > ensure curricular access for all individuals with visual and print > disabilities. > > Have a great day everyone, remember you are making a difference in someone's > life and you never know how your time and efforts will be passed forward. > That is something to look forward to in the morning! > > Ron > > ********************************************************************* > Ron Stewart MS > Technology Advisor > Association on Higher Education and Disabilities > Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group > > 97 Harris Rd > Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > Fax: 609 799-7552 > > ron@ahead.org > http://www.ahead.org > > > > From lornas at csufresno.edu Tue Aug 19 09:00:03 2008 From: lornas at csufresno.edu (Lorna Saiz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Life's Journeys In-Reply-To: <000001c901f2$18bc0b20$4a342160$@org> References: <000001c901f2$18bc0b20$4a342160$@org> Message-ID: Dear Ron, Thank you for your contributions to Accessibility and Higher Ed. I'm glad to follow membership with ATHEN and AHEAD. Your solutions are ever helpful. Sincerely, Lorna Saiz Accessible Technology Coordinator Services for Students with Disabilities California State University, Fresno University Center Room 5 M/S ML125 Ph: 559.278.2811 - Fax: 559.278.4214 lornas@csufresno.edu http://www.csufresno.edu/ssd ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Stewart Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:56 am Subject: [Athen] Life's Journeys To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Hi all, > > Some of you may already know, but some may not. Some may not > care, but I > know some that do. So let me share with you the latest news, and > if you > would please update my contact if you desire. > > 14-Aug-2008 > > The Dolphin Group would like to announce that effective August 31, > 2008 VP > of Operations Ron Stewart will be leaving Dolphin Computer Access > Inc, our > US subsidiary, to return to his work as a private consultant in > the areas of > Alternative Format Production and Educational Technology Access. > Ron will > continue to work with Dolphin as a Consultant. > Dolphin would like to thank Ron for his many contributions over > the past two > years, but in particular for his leadership of our Alt Format > efforts. We > look forward to the role he will continue to play in our global > efforts to > ensure curricular access for all individuals with visual and print > disabilities. > > Have a great day everyone, remember you are making a difference in > someone'slife and you never know how your time and efforts will be > passed forward. > That is something to look forward to in the morning! > > Ron > > ********************************************************************* > Ron Stewart MS > Technology Advisor > Association on Higher Education and Disabilities > Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group > > 97 Harris Rd > Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > Fax: 609 799-7552 > > ron@ahead.org > http://www.ahead.org > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at ucla.edu Tue Aug 19 09:58:15 2008 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessibility issues with eBay's "new search experience" In-Reply-To: References: <000001c901f2$18bc0b20$4a342160$@org> <004801c90207$290bde00$7b239a00$@com> <006601c9020a$ad1f7be0$075e73a0$@com> Message-ID: <200808191658.m7JGwBo7013254@mail.ucla.edu> Hi Al, Very interesting. I definitely miss the headings in the results list, too. One thing I noticed: At the top of the list of results there are "List View" & "Customize View" links. Choosing Customize leads to a screen with various options. One is a checkbox to "display each item in its own row", or something like that. If you do that, then each search result gets its own
section. Unfortunately the picture of the item (with long graphic name link) is in the left column, & the name of the item is in Column 2, so it isn't as efficient to navigate as it could be. But still I think an improvement. Haven't checked out what happens in "Picture Gallery" view. Suspect it won't be good! All this using Jaws 9 & IE7. Patrick At 08:03 AM 8/19/2008, Al Puzzuoli wrote: >Content-class: urn:content-classes:message >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9020C.B08A3461" > >Below is an URL containing an example of a search I just did: >http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38.l1313&_nkw=q9m&_sacat=See-All-Categories > >Al -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke ucla. edu From pratikp1 at gmail.com Tue Aug 19 10:20:53 2008 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessibility issues with eBay's "new search experience" In-Reply-To: <200808191658.m7JGwBo7013254@mail.ucla.edu> References: <000001c901f2$18bc0b20$4a342160$@org> <004801c90207$290bde00$7b239a00$@com> <006601c9020a$ad1f7be0$075e73a0$@com> <200808191658.m7JGwBo7013254@mail.ucla.edu> Message-ID: <009a01c9021f$f00a7a30$d01f6e90$@com> Also Using JAWS's find feature (insert+f) search for "pict" and you'll be placed at the beginning of each entry With the customization, you can remove the picture column and make the title come up in its own row of the table when you customize as well. This way you can navigate from table to table with "t." The customization options appear at the bottom of the screen when you go to the "customize" link. When you first go to the results page, press "x" to quicly navigate near the search results area if you're using the list view. HTH. Pratik -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Burke Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:58 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] accessibility issues with eBay's "new search experience" Hi Al, Very interesting. I definitely miss the headings in the results list, too. One thing I noticed: At the top of the list of results there are "List View" & "Customize View" links. Choosing Customize leads to a screen with various options. One is a checkbox to "display each item in its own row", or something like that. If you do that, then each search result gets its own
section. Unfortunately the picture of the item (with long graphic name link) is in the left column, & the name of the item is in Column 2, so it isn't as efficient to navigate as it could be. But still I think an improvement. Haven't checked out what happens in "Picture Gallery" view. Suspect it won't be good! All this using Jaws 9 & IE7. Patrick At 08:03 AM 8/19/2008, Al Puzzuoli wrote: >Content-class: urn:content-classes:message >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9020C.B08A3461" > >Below is an URL containing an example of a search I just did: >http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38.l1313&_nkw=q9m&_sacat =See-All-Categories > >Al -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke ucla. edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From rbeach at kckcc.edu Tue Aug 19 11:05:58 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] screen magnification and Macs Message-ID: <48AAC536020000CF0001A1B1@mymail.kckcc.edu> Hi all, I have a low vision student needing to access Adobe PhotoShop on a Mac. Any ideas of a good magnification program to try? Does the Mac have good magnification built into the system? This is my first venture into the Mac world. Thanks for any tips. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From travis at travisroth.com Tue Aug 19 11:29:18 2008 From: travis at travisroth.com (Travis Roth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] screen magnification and Macs In-Reply-To: <48AAC536020000CF0001A1B1@mymail.kckcc.edu> References: <48AAC536020000CF0001A1B1@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <00b001c90229$804ec390$80ec4ab0$@com> Mac OS 10.5 has magnification called Zoom built in. See www.apple.com/accessibility/ I can't say how well it works. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:06 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; altmedia@htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu Subject: [Athen] screen magnification and Macs Hi all, I have a low vision student needing to access Adobe PhotoShop on a Mac. Any ideas of a good magnification program to try? Does the Mac have good magnification built into the system? This is my first venture into the Mac world. Thanks for any tips. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From FosterS at sou.edu Tue Aug 19 11:51:14 2008 From: FosterS at sou.edu (Shawn Foster) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] screen magnification and Macs In-Reply-To: <48AAC536020000CF0001A1B1@mymail.kckcc.edu> References: <48AAC536020000CF0001A1B1@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <48AAB3B2.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> Robert: You'll probably get a more comprehensive reply from Jayme Johnson, but... The Mac does have a fairly decent magnification app, Zoom, built into the operating system. Go to the System Preferences and choose Universal Access. Choose Options to customize. It doesn't have the flexibility of ZoomText, but does do a good job of smoothing and doesn't pixelate too badly. Max zoom is 20x. Zoom can follow the keyboard focus or mouse focus and has screen contrast controls. Combined with VoiceOver, it does a decent job of giving voice output, as well. What it doesn't give you is an on-screen orientation to where you are, as ZoomText and Magic can do. There are some other screen magnification tools from 3rd parties, but I haven't used them because Zoom does what I've needed (my vision is deteriorating at a slow but steady pace). hth, Shaw Shawn Foster Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Services for Students Southern Oregon University V/TTY: (541)552-6213 blog: http://atatsou.blogspot.com ( http://atatsou.blogspot.com/ ) n >>> On 8/19/2008 at 11:05 AM, in message <48AAC536020000CF0001A1B1@mymail.kckcc.edu>, "Robert Beach" wrote: Hi all, I have a low vision student needing to access Adobe PhotoShop on a Mac. Any ideas of a good magnification program to try? Does the Mac have good magnification built into the system? This is my first venture into the Mac world. Thanks for any tips. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From icdri at icdri.org Tue Aug 19 11:49:43 2008 From: icdri at icdri.org (ICDRI) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] screen magnification and Macs In-Reply-To: <00b001c90229$804ec390$80ec4ab0$@com> References: <48AAC536020000CF0001A1B1@mymail.kckcc.edu> <00b001c90229$804ec390$80ec4ab0$@com> Message-ID: <01cc01c9022c$58f11160$0ad33420$@org> I just tested it with a New Macbook Pro and it seems to work pretty well. Sincerely, Mike Burks Chairman ICDRI 919 870 8788 - Office 919-882-1884 - Fax 919-349-6661 - Cell icdri@icdri.org http://www.icdri.org Donations are gratefully accepted. More details are available at http://www.icdri.org/donations.htm -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Travis Roth Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:29 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] screen magnification and Macs Mac OS 10.5 has magnification called Zoom built in. See www.apple.com/accessibility/ I can't say how well it works. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:06 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; altmedia@htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu Subject: [Athen] screen magnification and Macs Hi all, I have a low vision student needing to access Adobe PhotoShop on a Mac. Any ideas of a good magnification program to try? Does the Mac have good magnification built into the system? This is my first venture into the Mac world. Thanks for any tips. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From skeegan at htctu.net Tue Aug 19 12:36:55 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] screen magnification and Macs In-Reply-To: <48AAC536020000CF0001A1B1@mymail.kckcc.edu> References: <48AAC536020000CF0001A1B1@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <004e01c90232$f094e540$d1beafc0$@net> > I have a low vision student needing to access Adobe PhotoShop on a Mac. > Any ideas of a good magnification program to try? Does the Mac have > good magnification built into the system? You can enable the Zoom feature in OS X and it does a decent job of screen magnification. Around 9 or 10x magnification, it starts to get a bit fuzzy but the content is still viewable. This may be an issue with Photoshop depending on how much the student is enlarging the photo, but is definitely something to try. You can enable the Zoom feature by going to the System Preferences and clicking on the Universal Access icon. There is an "On/Off" set of radio buttons that will enable the Zoom function. Keyboard commands: To zoom in: "Option + Command + =" (command is also known as the open apple) To zoom out: "Option + Command + -" To enhance contrast: "Control + Option + Command + ." To reduce contrast: "Control + Option + Command + ," There is an Options button in the Zoom menu that will allow you to set some options for zooming in/out as well as keyboard tracking. I prefer to enable the "Zoom follows the keyboard focus" as this will allow you to track any changes in keyboard focus. For example, Command + L will jump you to the address bar in Safari or Firefox. With this option checked, your focus will also move to the address bar. Now, if working in Photoshop (and the student knows the keyboard shortcuts), then the student may wish to disable this feature so that their on-screen focus does not move away from the picture if they implement a keyboard command. Something to try out with the student. Also, you can set the "max" and "min" zoom levels and this will allow you to "Jump" to the preset zoom level. You can still zoom in/zoom out using the keyboard commands, but this is a nice feature to "jump" to a preset zoom level. I have actually seen presenters use this feature when working with HTML code - very handy to zoom the entire screen to emphasize specific content. The other screen-magnification I have heard of (but have not tried) is VisioVoice - http://tinyurl.com/6p3svp . You get some additional options (multilingual voices) and it claims to smooth the text better than the Mac OS X. If anyone has tried this, please provide some feedback... Take care, Sean From rbeach at kckcc.edu Tue Aug 19 13:13:40 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Thanks all Message-ID: <48AAE324020000CF0001A22C@mymail.kckcc.edu> Thanks all for the excellent and quick replies to my question. I'll be meeting with the student tomorrow and have information to share with her. Now it will be a matter of getting the student, myself, and the Mac together at the same time to experiment with this. Thanks again! Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From hascherdss at gmail.com Tue Aug 19 13:18:05 2008 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] WinTriangle Message-ID: <6e0d34c90808191318u2efbc8f9te3d63810114f5088@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone have the actual WinTriangle 3? We've downloaded recently from the website, and looks like 3 is downloading. But when it is installed, it's actually 2! Finally figured out that it's version 2 as the menues don't match info listed in the documentation, which references version 3 & 4 (I know, 4 was pulled due to too many issues). And when we click on "about" it shows it to be version 2. Am hoping to get this set up for a student who is blind and is planning on taking algebra this semester (and, naturally, classes start Monday!) Anyone have any suggestions?? TIA! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Tue Aug 19 14:31:32 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] WinTriangle In-Reply-To: <6e0d34c90808191318u2efbc8f9te3d63810114f5088@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e0d34c90808191318u2efbc8f9te3d63810114f5088@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <020b01c90243$27a048d0$76e0da70$@org> Sure I will email it to you off list Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:18 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] WinTriangle Does anyone have the actual WinTriangle 3? We've downloaded recently from the website, and looks like 3 is downloading. But when it is installed, it's actually 2! Finally figured out that it's version 2 as the menues don't match info listed in the documentation, which references version 3 & 4 (I know, 4 was pulled due to too many issues). And when we click on "about" it shows it to be version 2. Am hoping to get this set up for a student who is blind and is planning on taking algebra this semester (and, naturally, classes start Monday!) Anyone have any suggestions?? TIA! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Heidi On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: > Hi all here is the download site for Wintriangle: * > http://wintriangle.org/component/option,com_docman/task,cat_view/gid,11/Itemid,3/ > * > > This should be build 3, please let me know if it is not and I will see > what I can do. > > Ron > > ********************************************************************* > Ron Stewart MS > > Technology Advisor > > Association on Higher Education and Disabilities > > Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group > > 97 Harris Rd > > Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 > > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > > Fax: 609 799-7552 > > ron@ahead.org > > *****http://www.ahead.org* > > *****Remember you are making a difference in someone's life************ and > you never know how your time************ and efforts will be passed > forward. ************ That is something to look forward to in the morning! > ***** > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The documentation references 3 & 4, but the menus are different in the actual software that downloads. Mucho thanks! Heidi On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: Hi all here is the download site for Wintriangle: http://wintriangle.org/component/option,com_docman/task,cat_view/gid,11/Item id,3/ This should be build 3, please let me know if it is not and I will see what I can do. Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabilities Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 97 Harris Rd Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 609 799-7552 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never know how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something to look forward to in the morning! _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhori at ucdavis.edu Tue Aug 19 15:56:38 2008 From: jhori at ucdavis.edu (Joshua Hori) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Wintriangle In-Reply-To: <6e0d34c90808191500n7595848cx825eeb4e6c652c0f@mail.gmail.com> References: <3846829966409846169@unknownmsgid> <6e0d34c90808191500n7595848cx825eeb4e6c652c0f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64F1ECA8763FFC49830AE70FA1CEC6ABF49A34@XEDAMAIL1.ex.ad3.ucdavis.edu> Hey Ron, I also tried the sourceforge.net link that was provided, and it was the 2.09 version as well. (states 3.0 on the site with version 2.09 below it) Joshua Hori From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:00 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Wintriangle Hey there, Ron! That's the link that we've been using to download. It looks like it's the file for 3.0, but when it's loaded, the reference is 2.09 in the "About" screen. The documentation references 3 & 4, but the menus are different in the actual software that downloads. Mucho thanks! Heidi On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Ron Stewart > wrote: Hi all here is the download site for Wintriangle: http://wintriangle.org/component/option,com_docman/task,cat_view/gid,11/Itemid,3/ This should be build 3, please let me know if it is not and I will see what I can do. Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabilities Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 97 Harris Rd Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 609 799-7552 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never know how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something to look forward to in the morning! _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmhaven at stanford.edu Tue Aug 19 16:11:06 2008 From: rmhaven at stanford.edu (rmhaven@stanford.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] screen magnification and Macs In-Reply-To: <48AAB3B2.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> References: <48AAC536020000CF0001A1B1@mymail.kckcc.edu> <48AAB3B2.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> Message-ID: <20080819161106.pea0exlns4ss0gcg@webmail.stanford.edu> Hi, Robert! One thing to add to the previous comments: Mac OS Zoom can provide an onscreen orientation showing what part of the screen is being magnified. Under Zoom's "Options", select "Show preview rectangle when zoomed out". Then with the max. and min. zooms set at, say, 3x and 1x, the student can toggle between "zoom in" and "zoom out" and see where they are in the "zoomed out" mode. - Shelley Haven From tbalen at wsu.edu Tue Aug 19 16:31:51 2008 From: tbalen at wsu.edu (Balen, Tim) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? In-Reply-To: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> References: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759689@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> Message-ID: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571759840@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> Thank you all for your thoughts and suggestions, just the type of info I was hoping for (and knew I would get) Regards, Tim Balen Disability Specialist/AT Coordinator WSU DRC 509-335-7904 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Balen, Tim Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:33 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Information on E-Text Production Database? Colleagues, I'm looking for advice or suggestions on creating a database for tracking e-text production. We are working on one now within our office, but I am concerned it is becoming cumbersome and labor intensive. Essentially we are looking to record and store, completed text conversions, conversions in progress, time spent per conversion & per editor. Any information would be appreciated on or off the list. Thank You! Tim Balen Washington State University 509-335-7904 www.drc.wsu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Tue Aug 19 16:49:53 2008 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] WinTriangle Message-ID: <02d801c90256$4a0e6470$de2b2d50$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Hi all, well I have tracked down both version 3 and version 4 and will have them put up on the AHEAD website. I can also sent them to you off list if you can accept zips Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabilities Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 97 Harris Rd Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 609 799-7552 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never know how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something to look forward to in the morning! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 05:27:28 2008 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Battling pricy textbooks with open-source texts, social media Message-ID: <014e01c902c0$1d3dde20$57b99a60$@com> Please see the article on Ars linked below. I would particularly encourage you to visit the linked article from the LATimes. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080820-battling-pricy-textbooks-with- open-source-texts-social-media.html?utm_source=microblogging&utm_medium=ping fm&utm_term=main_ars_account&utm_campaign=microblogging From ron at ahead.org Wed Aug 20 05:44:14 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Battling pricy textbooks with open-source texts, social media In-Reply-To: <014e01c902c0$1d3dde20$57b99a60$@com> References: <014e01c902c0$1d3dde20$57b99a60$@com> Message-ID: <008701c902c2$73c80890$5b5819b0$@org> So if the textbooks are free what is the incentive to write quality textbook material? I am not disputing that textbooks cost to much, I put too kids through college not to mention my way too many years of grad school. Heck half the time my daughter never bought the book and graduated with honors, a nut not too far from the family tree :) This issue is so complicated than any panacea solution is just that. Authors typically want compensation of some kind, profs need to publish or perish to get promotion and writing a text book is one way to survive. More and more campuses are purchasing curriculum packages or even whole courses from vendors. Some cost effective system needs to exist to get curriculum in the hands of students. The vast majority of students do not like digital text. Piracy is theft. I can go on and on here folks. A lesson should be learned from the experiences with opensource of the last few years. Typically the most successful opensource projects are those that have been commercialized in some way. Show me a campus that has gone to an opensource model and had it save money. I know Oregon State lost their shirt, and they guys in charge both quit just before the cost benefit report was supposed to be delivered. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:27 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'; 'Alternate Media'; cosdi-d@listserv.cuny.edu Subject: [Athen] Battling pricy textbooks with open-source texts, social media Please see the article on Ars linked below. I would particularly encourage you to visit the linked article from the LATimes. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080820-battling-pricy-textbooks-with- open-source-texts-social-media.html?utm_source=microblogging&utm_medium=ping fm&utm_term=main_ars_account&utm_campaign=microblogging _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From tft at u.washington.edu Wed Aug 20 05:48:25 2008 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Battling pricy textbooks with open-source texts, social media In-Reply-To: <008701c902c2$73c80890$5b5819b0$@org> Message-ID: <200808201248.m7KCmP5X030953@smtp.washington.edu> Just to make this a little easier, here's an alternative link to the same article: http://tinyurl.com/6p82tg Terry > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:44 AM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Battling pricy textbooks with > open-source texts,social media > > So if the textbooks are free what is the incentive to write > quality textbook material? I am not disputing that textbooks > cost to much, I put too kids through college not to mention > my way too many years of grad school. Heck half the time my > daughter never bought the book and graduated with honors, a > nut not too far from the family tree :) > > This issue is so complicated than any panacea solution is just that. > Authors typically want compensation of some kind, profs need > to publish or perish to get promotion and writing a text book > is one way to survive. More and more campuses are purchasing > curriculum packages or even whole courses > from vendors. Some cost effective system needs to exist to > get curriculum > in the hands of students. The vast majority of students do > not like digital text. Piracy is theft. I can go on and on > here folks. > > A lesson should be learned from the experiences with > opensource of the last few years. Typically the most > successful opensource projects are those that have been > commercialized in some way. Show me a campus that has gone to > an opensource model and had it save money. I know Oregon > State lost their shirt, and they guys in charge both quit > just before the cost benefit report was supposed to be delivered. > > Ron Stewart > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:27 AM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'; > 'Alternate Media'; cosdi-d@listserv.cuny.edu > Subject: [Athen] Battling pricy textbooks with open-source > texts, social media > > Please see the article on Ars linked below. I would > particularly encourage you to visit the linked article from > the LATimes. > > http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080820-battling-pricy-t extbooks-with- > open-source-texts-social-media.html?utm_source=microblogging&u tm_medium=ping > fm&utm_term=main_ars_account&utm_campaign=microblogging > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From johumber at iupui.edu Wed Aug 20 06:38:18 2008 From: johumber at iupui.edu (Humbert, Joseph A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN iTunes U Accessibility Evaluation Reminder Message-ID: This is a reminder to all to please help us get the message to apple! We have just under 20 responses I would really like 50 + Please help us get the message out to Apple by completing this evaluation of the iTunes software! Please follow the link below: ATHEN iTunes U Accessibility Evaluation (http://www.tripleeclipse.com/athen/survey/survey.php) The evaluation will run from July 16th through September 16th, 2008. We encourage you to post it to other listservs. If you do we ask you email Joe Humbert johumber@iupui.edu So we can keep track and send out reminders. Thank You ATHEN iTunes U Accessibility Working Group. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed Aug 20 06:53:13 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Battling pricy textbooks with open-source texts, social media In-Reply-To: <008701c902c2$73c80890$5b5819b0$@org> References: <014e01c902c0$1d3dde20$57b99a60$@com> <008701c902c2$73c80890$5b5819b0$@org> Message-ID: I have a completely different take on this than Ron. Open Source WORKS and it also makes money. There are plenty of bands and authors that would not be known at all today if they didn't start out by giving away their work for free. Surprisingly, the old business model of "nothing free" doesn't work these days, and "free" is working AND earning money. Doesn't make sense with the traditional economics we all learned in school, but in the actual working, people ARE making money and making it well after becoming recognized by publishing for free. It does mean a corporate shift for many, and plenty of businesses still haven't figured out that open source/free does work, and does make money. The music industry is the most steadfast in following the old ways and the old economics, but it hasn't stopped open source, and it won't. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From ron at ahead.org Wed Aug 20 08:04:52 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Battling pricy textbooks with open-source texts, social media In-Reply-To: References: <014e01c902c0$1d3dde20$57b99a60$@com> <008701c902c2$73c80890$5b5819b0$@org> Message-ID: <00f501c902d6$1aa09c00$4fe1d400$@org> Thanks for your input, but I think we can just agree to disagree here. I have heard these same arguments time and time again, but except in some very rare circumstances have found almost no compelling data to support it. In fact based on the research I have looked at the number this is true for is so small that it is statistically insignificant based on a very extensive review of the literature. Now I am only interested in the application model as it applies to educational governmental systems so maybe that is where the difference it. Secondly how are you going to get existing educational systems to buy into this? Maybe someday the entire economic and administrative will move to a more socialistic model of operation but I don't seen this happening in any meaningful way but I don't see this happening in my lifetime. This is a topic I follow very closely as I try to help my clients make informed decisions in their IT and AT operations. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:53 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Battling pricy textbooks with open-source texts, social media I have a completely different take on this than Ron. Open Source WORKS and it also makes money. There are plenty of bands and authors that would not be known at all today if they didn't start out by giving away their work for free. Surprisingly, the old business model of "nothing free" doesn't work these days, and "free" is working AND earning money. Doesn't make sense with the traditional economics we all learned in school, but in the actual working, people ARE making money and making it well after becoming recognized by publishing for free. It does mean a corporate shift for many, and plenty of businesses still haven't figured out that open source/free does work, and does make money. The music industry is the most steadfast in following the old ways and the old economics, but it hasn't stopped open source, and it won't. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From john.gardner at orst.edu Wed Aug 20 09:09:55 2008 From: john.gardner at orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Battling pricy textbooks with open-source texts, social media In-Reply-To: References: <014e01c902c0$1d3dde20$57b99a60$@com><008701c902c2$73c80890$5b5819b0$@org> Message-ID: <002501c902df$2fa98090$651919ac@johnz> I appreciate Ron's point of view, particularly the comment about institutions moving to a new model. However I think that Ron has overestimated the influence of money on people who write texts. There are probably as many people who write texts for fun as there are who write them for profit. This is more so for upper level texts than introductory ones, because the sales potential for books decreases as the subject matter becomes more specialized. Yet these tend to be the most expensive, because the publishers have to make money on a limited sale. The authors are invariably university faculty members who write books as part of their professional research and service. So they are paid by the university to write these books and don't need to sell them to eat. I an an honorary author on a physics monograph because I translated it from German. That book sells well in Germany at 20 Euros but the English Wiley version hasn't even sold its initial printing of something like a couple hundred copies, because it costs several hundred dollars. The authors make very little money and would be more than happy to give it away for free if they had a high visibility way to distribute it. I know many other authors who would do the same. The big caveat here is that high visibility distribution. Free is good, but there's no money to pay for advertising. Maybe a model like Amazon's and O'Reilly's that permit authors to distribute directly without a publisher in between might fill that need. This can work for proprietary as well as open source works. I am hopeful, but only time will tell. John -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 6:53 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Battling pricy textbooks with open-source texts,social media I have a completely different take on this than Ron. Open Source WORKS and it also makes money. There are plenty of bands and authors that would not be known at all today if they didn't start out by giving away their work for free. Surprisingly, the old business model of "nothing free" doesn't work these days, and "free" is working AND earning money. Doesn't make sense with the traditional economics we all learned in school, but in the actual working, people ARE making money and making it well after becoming recognized by publishing for free. It does mean a corporate shift for many, and plenty of businesses still haven't figured out that open source/free does work, and does make money. The music industry is the most steadfast in following the old ways and the old economics, but it hasn't stopped open source, and it won't. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at ahead.org Wed Aug 20 09:22:22 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Battling pricy textbooks with open-source texts, social media In-Reply-To: <002501c902df$2fa98090$651919ac@johnz> References: <014e01c902c0$1d3dde20$57b99a60$@com><008701c902c2$73c80890$5b5819b0$@org> <002501c902df$2fa98090$651919ac@johnz> Message-ID: <013b01c902e0$ecf55240$c6dff6c0$@org> Thanks John, Authors are in interesting critter and I would fully agree with John that in the very technical areas this can be true. That said I am aware of several alt format production programs that had to drastically change how they operated when upset faculty authors complained because their commercial products were being duplicated without consent. That said these were 100-200 level texts that are very widely use, or trade books which are a very touchy issue anyway. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of John Gardner Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:10 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Battling pricy textbooks with open-source texts, social media I appreciate Ron's point of view, particularly the comment about institutions moving to a new model. However I think that Ron has overestimated the influence of money on people who write texts. There are probably as many people who write texts for fun as there are who write them for profit. This is more so for upper level texts than introductory ones, because the sales potential for books decreases as the subject matter becomes more specialized. Yet these tend to be the most expensive, because the publishers have to make money on a limited sale. The authors are invariably university faculty members who write books as part of their professional research and service. So they are paid by the university to write these books and don't need to sell them to eat. I an an honorary author on a physics monograph because I translated it from German. That book sells well in Germany at 20 Euros but the English Wiley version hasn't even sold its initial printing of something like a couple hundred copies, because it costs several hundred dollars. The authors make very little money and would be more than happy to give it away for free if they had a high visibility way to distribute it. I know many other authors who would do the same. The big caveat here is that high visibility distribution. Free is good, but there's no money to pay for advertising. Maybe a model like Amazon's and O'Reilly's that permit authors to distribute directly without a publisher in between might fill that need. This can work for proprietary as well as open source works. I am hopeful, but only time will tell. John -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 6:53 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [ATHEN] Battling pricy textbooks with open-source texts,social media I have a completely different take on this than Ron. Open Source WORKS and it also makes money. There are plenty of bands and authors that would not be known at all today if they didn't start out by giving away their work for free. Surprisingly, the old business model of "nothing free" doesn't work these days, and "free" is working AND earning money. Doesn't make sense with the traditional economics we all learned in school, but in the actual working, people ARE making money and making it well after becoming recognized by publishing for free. It does mean a corporate shift for many, and plenty of businesses still haven't figured out that open source/free does work, and does make money. The music industry is the most steadfast in following the old ways and the old economics, but it hasn't stopped open source, and it won't. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed Aug 20 09:24:41 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] Battling pricy textbooks with open-source texts, social media In-Reply-To: <013b01c902e0$ecf55240$c6dff6c0$@org> References: <014e01c902c0$1d3dde20$57b99a60$@com><008701c902c2$73c80890$5b5819b0$@org> <002501c902df$2fa98090$651919ac@johnz> <013b01c902e0$ecf55240$c6dff6c0$@org> Message-ID: As a published author, I can attest to the fact that sometimes, just knowing people are reading your things and learning from them (or enjoying them in the case of fiction) is enough. I have made no money on my published work, but that's fine with me. Textbook writers are rarely making a living on their published work either; the author receives a very very tiny piece of the pie when it comes to sales, in the end. That is, unless you are Stephen King, or J.K. Rowling, but even those had to start somewhere, and did not make money on their first editions. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From norm.coombs at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 09:28:31 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] EASI Webinars: Ten Webinars are Scheduled Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080820092610.02286b90@pop.gmail.com> EASI Webinars from now to Thanksgiving! The list below includes 7 public Webinars and 3 paid series which are free to EASI annual members. We are planning lots more for the winter and they will be posted soon. Membership does at least 3 things for you. Besides giving you access to all the paid Webinar series and giving you a 20% reduction on courses, you can take pride in helping to make it possible for us to provide a number of free Webinars for the public. You can help others while helping yourself! Here, I have only provided a skeleton about each event. Read more and register from: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm Read about membership at: http://easi.cc/sub.htm Public Webinar: Understanding the New Look of Office 2007 Saturday August 23 at 2 PM Eastern Presenter Joel Isaac Public Webinar: Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Version 2 Guidelines September 11 at 2 PM Eastern Presenters: Judy Brewer and Michael Cooper Public Webinar: Recording for the Blind and Dyslexic Update Thursday September 18 at 2 PM Eastern Presenter: Steve noble Public Webinar: Improving Accessibility of Troublesome PDF Files Sept. 24 at 2 PM Eastern Presenter: Andrew Downie, SEO, Adaptive Technologies, Australia Public Webinar: Understanding Electronic Document Formats Thur. Sept. 25 at 2 PM Eastern Presenter Robert Beach Attend a Virtual Conference on Accessible Distance Education EASI Paid Series of 4 live Webinars Sept. 9, 16, 23, 30 at 2 PM Presenter Norman Coombs, Ph.D. and EASI CEO (This is free for Webinar annual members) Week 1 Sept. 9: Overview of distance learning accessibility Week 2 Sept. 16: Accessible distance learning is a three-legged stool Week 3 Sept. 23: Designing simple, accessible content for distance education Week 4 Sept. 30: More complex content: multimedia, science, math and graphics EASI 4-part fee-based PDF Webinar Series Accessible and Usable PDF Documents: Techniques for Document Design Tuesdays October 7, 14, 21, 28 all at 2 PM Eastern (This fee-based series is free to all annual members) Presenter : Karen McCall October 7: Creating PDF with authoring tools and by scanning from hard copy October 14: Document tagging and logical document structure October 21: Adobe repair tools are important to help fix a document that lacks some accessibility. October 28: Exporting documents created with other authoring tools like Word into an accessible PDF format. Public EASI Webinar: Making Accessible Forms in MS Word Thursday October 16 at 2 PM Eastern Presenters: Dan Clark from Freedom Scientific and Norm Coombs from EASI Public Webinar: Making Movies in Theaters Fully Accessible Oct. 23 at 2 Eastern Presenter: Mary Watkins from WGBH Fee-based Webinar: Taming Microsoft Word and Excel 2003 & 2007 While Providing Output That Is Fully Accessible Tuesday, November 4, 11, 18 and 25 (2PM EASTERN) Presenter: Norm Coombs (This fee-based series is free to all annual members) Week 1 Nov. 4: What are styles in Word; why use them and how to set them up Week 2 Nov. 11: Making images, tables and forms accessible in Word Week 3 Nov. 18: Exporting documents from Word to PDF or to the Web Week 4 Nov. 25: Making Excel spreadsheets more accessible to users with disabilities December public Webinars are under discussion! I have only provided a skeleton about each event. Read more and register from: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm Read about membership at: http://easi.cc/sub.htm Norman Coombs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From ron at ahead.org Thu Aug 21 03:53:53 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Wintriangle Message-ID: <027301c9037c$34b1b7e0$9e1527a0$@org> Hi all, I just heard back from Vivek on WinTriangle and he is going to get the download problem taken care of. Are any of you truly interested in this since he has not been getting a lot of help in maintaining the project and I am wondering if it something ATHEN should pick up. Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabilities Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 97 Harris Rd Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Office: 609 799-7552 Fax: 609 799-7552 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never know how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something to look forward to in the morning! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If the list people are interested, I can publish more details and numbers, comparing Word-2003 and Word-2007. -- Truly, Robert Iakobashvili, Ph.D. ...................................................................... www.ghotit.com Assistive technology that understands you ...................................................................... On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:05 AM, Prof Norm Coombs wrote: > > Understanding the New Look of Office 2007 > > Presenter Joel Isaac > Saturday August 23 at 2 PM Eastern > > This presentation wil help users make the switch from Office 2003 to Office > 2007 with special attention to the > problems faced by users of adaptive technologies. > > Topics include: > * The Parts Word 2007 Interface > * Quick Access Toolbar > * Shortcut keys > * Resources > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Karen From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Cassandra Tex Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:09 AM To: ATHEN Listserv; CSU AT Specialists Listserve Subject: [Athen] Headers and Footers in Word 2007 - How to Read Them in JAWS Greetings All, Sorry for the cross posting. Quick question.Can JAWS and other screen readers read headers and footers in Word documents (specifically Word 2007)? If so, what is the command in JAWS? Opening the document and doing the read-all command, JAWS does not read the header. Also, doing a select all does not select the text of the header. I'm wondering if it is considered "background" text and not available for screen readers. Thanks for your help. Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Thu Aug 21 10:36:13 2008 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Headers and Footers in Word 2007 - How to Read Them in JAWS In-Reply-To: <001801c903a2$76ed0580$64c71080$@com> References: <000001c9039f$d6fd7cf0$84f876d0$@edu> <001801c903a2$76ed0580$64c71080$@com> Message-ID: <008901c903b4$69706520$3c512f60$@com> In addition to the suggestions below, you will also be able to review header and footer information by pressing insert+f1 in any document that has headers headers and footers. JAWS will identify whether or not they are running headers or footers. Navigate to a particular page then press insert+f1 to read information for that particular page. You'll also learn that inser+f1 is a very useful command in many circumstances. Regards, Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Info @ Karlen Communications Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:28 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Headers and Footers in Word 2007 - How to Read Them in JAWS This is the normal behaviour. We have to go into the header or footer to read it. In Word 2007 it is Alt + N, h or F for Header or Footer, then E to Edit. This takes us into the header or footer and we can navigate normally. Alt + N, H, E for Edit Header. Alt + N, F, E for Edit Footer. Cheers, Karen From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Cassandra Tex Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:09 AM To: ATHEN Listserv; CSU AT Specialists Listserve Subject: [Athen] Headers and Footers in Word 2007 - How to Read Them in JAWS Greetings All, Sorry for the cross posting. Quick question.Can JAWS and other screen readers read headers and footers in Word documents (specifically Word 2007)? If so, what is the command in JAWS? Opening the document and doing the read-all command, JAWS does not read the header. Also, doing a select all does not select the text of the header. I'm wondering if it is considered "background" text and not available for screen readers. Thanks for your help. Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Thu Aug 21 11:10:45 2008 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Info @ Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Headers and Footers in Word 2007 - How to Read Them in JAWS In-Reply-To: <008901c903b4$69706520$3c512f60$@com> References: <000001c9039f$d6fd7cf0$84f876d0$@edu> <001801c903a2$76ed0580$64c71080$@com> <008901c903b4$69706520$3c512f60$@com> Message-ID: <000601c903b9$3bb3ec10$b31bc430$@com> I agree and like the "Reveal Formatting" although I don't find it terribly accessible,..yet.hopefully as screen reader support for Word 2007 improves so will access to this tool. I am using the latest version of JAWS and admittedly don't use the JAWS cursor in this pane.. Cheers, Karen From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:36 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Headers and Footers in Word 2007 - How to Read Them in JAWS In addition to the suggestions below, you will also be able to review header and footer information by pressing insert+f1 in any document that has headers headers and footers. JAWS will identify whether or not they are running headers or footers. Navigate to a particular page then press insert+f1 to read information for that particular page. You'll also learn that inser+f1 is a very useful command in many circumstances. Regards, Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Info @ Karlen Communications Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:28 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Headers and Footers in Word 2007 - How to Read Them in JAWS This is the normal behaviour. We have to go into the header or footer to read it. In Word 2007 it is Alt + N, h or F for Header or Footer, then E to Edit. This takes us into the header or footer and we can navigate normally. Alt + N, H, E for Edit Header. Alt + N, F, E for Edit Footer. Cheers, Karen From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Cassandra Tex Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:09 AM To: ATHEN Listserv; CSU AT Specialists Listserve Subject: [Athen] Headers and Footers in Word 2007 - How to Read Them in JAWS Greetings All, Sorry for the cross posting. Quick question.Can JAWS and other screen readers read headers and footers in Word documents (specifically Word 2007)? If so, what is the command in JAWS? Opening the document and doing the read-all command, JAWS does not read the header. Also, doing a select all does not select the text of the header. I'm wondering if it is considered "background" text and not available for screen readers. Thanks for your help. Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Lawrence.C.Cusick at Dartmouth.EDU Thu Aug 21 11:45:11 2008 From: Lawrence.C.Cusick at Dartmouth.EDU (Lawrence C. Cusick) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] ALD/FM wireless system advice Message-ID: <131429331@newdasher.Dartmouth.EDU> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Thu Aug 21 11:47:55 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] ALD/FM wireless system advice In-Reply-To: <131429331@newdasher.Dartmouth.EDU> References: <131429331@newdasher.Dartmouth.EDU> Message-ID: I use nothing but Williams Sound Machines here. Worth every penny of the $500 they cost us. Last forever, easy on batteries, and survive drops and falls. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Lawrence C. Cusick > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:45 PM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: [Athen] ALD/FM wireless system advice > > Hi all, > > We are looking into purchasing new Personal ALDs/FM Wireless systems to > accommodate some incoming students and would like to gather some > feedback. > > 1) Which Personal ALD/FM wireless systems does your > department/institution > use? > 2) How much maintenance do the units require? Are they durable? > 3) What sources/resellers do you use/recommend? > 4) Are there educational and/or volume discounts? > 5) Other pros & cons & additional info? > > Thanks for your input! > > Larry Cusick > Student Accessibility Services Assistant > Dartmouth College > 6173 Collis Center, Suite 301 > Hanover, NH 03755 > Office: (603) 646-9900 > Fax: (603) 646-1629 > lawrence.c.cusick@dartmouth.edu > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Clark.Hochstetler at unlv.edu Thu Aug 21 12:03:20 2008 From: Clark.Hochstetler at unlv.edu (Clark.Hochstetler@unlv.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] ALD/FM wireless system advice In-Reply-To: <131429331@newdasher.Dartmouth.EDU> Message-ID: Over time have used Phonic Ear, Comtek and Williams Sound. Have had good luck with all. Obviously the cost of the Williams make them a value. The only negative comments if received from students had to do with the quality of sound in the Williams units - "tinny". Had one student that went without rather than use it. One recommendation is to buy a few of each. Clark Hochstetler, Director Disability Resource Center University of Nevada, Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway Box 452015 Las Vegas, Nevada 89154-2015 Voice 702-895-0654 Fax - 702-895-0651 -----Confidentiality Notice -------- This message (including any attachments) contains information intended for a specific indiviudal(s) and purpose that may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure pursuant to applicable law. Any inappropriate use, distribution or copying of the message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please reply to the sender indicating this error and delete the transmission from your system immediately. Lawrence.C.Cusick@Dartmouth.EDU (Lawrence C. Cusick) Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org 08/21/2008 11:45 AM Please respond to Access Technologists in Higher Education Network To athen@athenpro.org cc Subject [Athen] ALD/FM wireless system advice Hi all, We are looking into purchasing new Personal ALDs/FM Wireless systems to accommodate some incoming students and would like to gather some feedback. 1) Which Personal ALD/FM wireless systems does your department/institution use? 2) How much maintenance do the units require? Are they durable? 3) What sources/resellers do you use/recommend? 4) Are there educational and/or volume discounts? 5) Other pros & cons & additional info? Thanks for your input! Larry Cusick Student Accessibility Services Assistant Dartmouth College 6173 Collis Center, Suite 301 Hanover, NH 03755 Office: (603) 646-9900 Fax: (603) 646-1629 lawrence.c.cusick@dartmouth.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at kckcc.edu Thu Aug 21 12:10:07 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] ALD/FM wireless system advice In-Reply-To: References: <131429331@newdasher.Dartmouth.EDU> Message-ID: <48AD773F020000CF0001A5FC@mymail.kckcc.edu> We purchased a Williams and the student absolutely hated it. I can understand why since the audio was poor. There was a constant buz that she nor I could get rid of. We returned it and purchased a Telex that she really liked. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> 8/21/2008 2:03 PM >>> Over time have used Phonic Ear, Comtek and Williams Sound. Have had good luck with all. Obviously the cost of the Williams make them a value. The only negative comments if received from students had to do with the quality of sound in the Williams units - "tinny". Had one student that went without rather than use it. One recommendation is to buy a few of each. Clark Hochstetler, Director Disability Resource Center University of Nevada, Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway Box 452015 Las Vegas, Nevada 89154-2015 Voice 702-895-0654 Fax - 702-895-0651 -----Confidentiality Notice -------- This message (including any attachments) contains information intended for a specific indiviudal(s) and purpose that may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure pursuant to applicable law. Any inappropriate use, distribution or copying of the message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please reply to the sender indicating this error and delete the transmission from your system immediately. Lawrence.C.Cusick@Dartmouth.EDU (Lawrence C. Cusick) Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org 08/21/2008 11:45 AM Please respond to Access Technologists in Higher Education Network To athen@athenpro.org cc Subject [Athen] ALD/FM wireless system advice Hi all, We are looking into purchasing new Personal ALDs/FM Wireless systems to accommodate some incoming students and would like to gather some feedback. 1) Which Personal ALD/FM wireless systems does your department/institution use? 2) How much maintenance do the units require? Are they durable? 3) What sources/resellers do you use/recommend? 4) Are there educational and/or volume discounts? 5) Other pros & cons & additional info? Thanks for your input! Larry Cusick Student Accessibility Services Assistant Dartmouth College 6173 Collis Center, Suite 301 Hanover, NH 03755 Office: (603) 646-9900 Fax: (603) 646-1629 lawrence.c.cusick@dartmouth.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From coroberti at gmail.com Thu Aug 21 12:26:36 2008 From: coroberti at gmail.com (Robert Iakobashvili) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Contextual Spelling of Word 2007 In-Reply-To: <7e63f56c0808211219x54a8ce98oa257b0468933e315@mail.gmail.com> References: <7e63f56c0808211219x54a8ce98oa257b0468933e315@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7e63f56c0808211226r4c426a90kd3941d8930ffb51a@mail.gmail.com> Hello, Since several people have expressed their interest in this topic, thus, the info comes. MS-Word 2007 for Windows and MS-Word 2008 for Macintosh so-called "contextual spelling" was introduced with a great enthusiasm as expressed e.g. here: http://blogs.msdn.com/correcteurorthographiqueoffice/archive/2006/06/05/617653.aspx Office 2007 for Windows (2008 for Mac) automatically activates "contextual spelling", if a computer has at least 1 GB of memory, otherwise, you can configure it manually as below: http://beyondteck.blogspot.com/2006/06/enable-contextual-spelling-in.html You may teach your students to pay attention to the words underlined by a blue line, which Office-2007 is suspecting to be out-of-context / misused / confused, whereas the right click mouse menu contains some correction candidates. Spelling capabilities of about all of the existing spellers, tools, word-processors, etc have been studied by Dr. Pedler in the link below and the citations inside, and found to be not of a much assistance for people with dyslexia: http://www.dcs.bbk.ac.uk/research/recentphds/pedler.pdf Since the research of Dr. Pedler does not cover MS-Word-2007 with contextual spelling capabilities, we made a small comparison testing among Word-2003, Word-2007 and Ghotit web-site speller. Still, this is not a comprehensive research using a big corpus. You can find some results attached as a Word-2003 document attached. Some brief conclusions are that Word-2007 is better than Word-2003 due to contextual spelling, where there is still remains a large room for improvements. Truly, Robert Iakobashvili, Ph.D. ...................................................................... www.ghotit.com Assistive technology that understands you ...................................................................... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Word-2003-2007-Ghotit-Comparison.doc Type: application/msword Size: 39936 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ron at ahead.org Thu Aug 21 12:45:59 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] ALD/FM wireless system advice In-Reply-To: References: <131429331@newdasher.Dartmouth.EDU> Message-ID: <000001c903c6$89310970$9b931c50$@org> Telex or Phonic Ear. We wired the entire OSU campus with Phonic Ear and it was stellar with 120 + multichannel transmitters deployed, 60 multichannel receivers and 24 paired single channel unit. I have been involved in a couple dozen other installs most of the time using Telex due to the nature of the installs. Ron S From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Clark.Hochstetler@unlv.edu Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:03 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] ALD/FM wireless system advice Over time have used Phonic Ear, Comtek and Williams Sound. Have had good luck with all. Obviously the cost of the Williams make them a value. The only negative comments if received from students had to do with the quality of sound in the Williams units - "tinny". Had one student that went without rather than use it. One recommendation is to buy a few of each. Clark Hochstetler, Director Disability Resource Center University of Nevada, Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway Box 452015 Las Vegas, Nevada 89154-2015 Voice 702-895-0654 Fax - 702-895-0651 -----Confidentiality Notice -------- This message (including any attachments) contains information intended for a specific indiviudal(s) and purpose that may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure pursuant to applicable law. Any inappropriate use, distribution or copying of the message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please reply to the sender indicating this error and delete the transmission from your system immediately. Lawrence.C.Cusick@Dartmouth.EDU (Lawrence C. Cusick) Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org 08/21/2008 11:45 AM Please respond to Access Technologists in Higher Education Network To athen@athenpro.org cc Subject [Athen] ALD/FM wireless system advice Hi all, We are looking into purchasing new Personal ALDs/FM Wireless systems to accommodate some incoming students and would like to gather some feedback. 1) Which Personal ALD/FM wireless systems does your department/institution use? 2) How much maintenance do the units require? Are they durable? 3) What sources/resellers do you use/recommend? 4) Are there educational and/or volume discounts? 5) Other pros & cons & additional info? Thanks for your input! Larry Cusick Student Accessibility Services Assistant Dartmouth College 6173 Collis Center, Suite 301 Hanover, NH 03755 Office: (603) 646-9900 Fax: (603) 646-1629 lawrence.c.cusick@dartmouth.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Thu Aug 21 12:55:28 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] ALD/FM wireless system advice In-Reply-To: References: <131429331@newdasher.Dartmouth.EDU> Message-ID: <000e01c903c7$dcdd0fa0$96972ee0$@org> Two other issues with Williams, there are cheaply constructed and the claim has been made that they are programmed to be slightly off signal so the work ok with other WS equipment but the quality degrades when trying to use them with other brands. Based on the FCC requirements for this spectrum all the FM wireless equipment should be interchangeable. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Clark.Hochstetler@unlv.edu Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:03 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] ALD/FM wireless system advice Over time have used Phonic Ear, Comtek and Williams Sound. Have had good luck with all. Obviously the cost of the Williams make them a value. The only negative comments if received from students had to do with the quality of sound in the Williams units - "tinny". Had one student that went without rather than use it. One recommendation is to buy a few of each. Clark Hochstetler, Director Disability Resource Center University of Nevada, Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway Box 452015 Las Vegas, Nevada 89154-2015 Voice 702-895-0654 Fax - 702-895-0651 -----Confidentiality Notice -------- This message (including any attachments) contains information intended for a specific indiviudal(s) and purpose that may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure pursuant to applicable law. Any inappropriate use, distribution or copying of the message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please reply to the sender indicating this error and delete the transmission from your system immediately. Lawrence.C.Cusick@Dartmouth.EDU (Lawrence C. Cusick) Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org 08/21/2008 11:45 AM Please respond to Access Technologists in Higher Education Network To athen@athenpro.org cc Subject [Athen] ALD/FM wireless system advice Hi all, We are looking into purchasing new Personal ALDs/FM Wireless systems to accommodate some incoming students and would like to gather some feedback. 1) Which Personal ALD/FM wireless systems does your department/institution use? 2) How much maintenance do the units require? Are they durable? 3) What sources/resellers do you use/recommend? 4) Are there educational and/or volume discounts? 5) Other pros & cons & additional info? Thanks for your input! Larry Cusick Student Accessibility Services Assistant Dartmouth College 6173 Collis Center, Suite 301 Hanover, NH 03755 Office: (603) 646-9900 Fax: (603) 646-1629 lawrence.c.cusick@dartmouth.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Fri Aug 22 13:26:52 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Helping my fading memory!! Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080822132355.0224bc08@pop.gmail.com> Hi: I used to know a line of HTML code and now that I want to use it again, I can't recall it. I want to put code into a web page that will both open up the users mail program addressed to me. . that is easy. . but I want the code to put in not only my address, I want it to insert the subject line for the person like: mail to someone@gmail.com with a subject saying welcome I'm sure it is simple but it is evading my memory. Norm Coombs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From Glenda at webaccessibility.biz Fri Aug 22 13:33:12 2008 From: Glenda at webaccessibility.biz (Glenda Watson Hyatt - Soaring Eagle Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Helping my fading memory!! In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20080822132355.0224bc08@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Norm, Try someone@gmail.com?Subject=Hello Cheers, Glenda Check out Accessibility 100 - a series of 100 easy-to-implement, free and inexpensive tips for improving accessibility for people with disabilities, available at http://www.doitmyselfblog.com/category/accessibility-100/ Glenda Watson Hyatt, The Left Thumb Blogger Author of I'll Do It Myself Blog: www.doitmyselfblog.com Email: Glenda@BooksbyGlenda.com Facebook: http://profile.to/GlendaWatsonHyatt/ Skype: Glenda.Watson.Hyatt (text only, please) Twitter: http://twitter.com/GlendaWH -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: August 22, 2008 1:27 PM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Helping my fading memory!! Hi: I used to know a line of HTML code and now that I want to use it again, I can't recall it. I want to put code into a web page that will both open up the users mail program addressed to me. . that is easy. . but I want the code to put in not only my address, I want it to insert the subject line for the person like: mail to someone@gmail.com with a subject saying welcome I'm sure it is simple but it is evading my memory. Norm Coombs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 6:54 PM From norm.coombs at gmail.com Fri Aug 22 14:04:20 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Helping my fading memory!! In-Reply-To: <48af22a7.06d7720a.357c.ffff8d54SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20080822132355.0224bc08@pop.gmail.com> <48af22a7.06d7720a.357c.ffff8d54SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080822140337.02307f90@pop.gmail.com> Thanks Glenda. It works. Now I will save this somewhere special! Of course everyone I put something somewhere special I am sure to forget what special spot it is in! Norm At 01:33 PM 8/22/2008, you wrote: >Hi Norm, > >Try someone@gmail.com?Subject=Hello > >Cheers, >Glenda > >Check out Accessibility 100 - a series of 100 easy-to-implement, free and >inexpensive tips for improving accessibility for people with disabilities, >available at http://www.doitmyselfblog.com/category/accessibility-100/ > >Glenda Watson Hyatt, The Left Thumb Blogger >Author of I'll Do It Myself >Blog: www.doitmyselfblog.com >Email: Glenda@BooksbyGlenda.com >Facebook: http://profile.to/GlendaWatsonHyatt/ >Skype: Glenda.Watson.Hyatt (text only, please) >Twitter: http://twitter.com/GlendaWH > > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs >Sent: August 22, 2008 1:27 PM >To: athen-athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] Helping my fading memory!! > >Hi: >I used to know a line of HTML code and now that I want to use it again, I >can't recall it. > >I want to put code into a web page that will both open up the users mail >program addressed to me. . that is easy. . but I want the code to put in not >only my address, I want it to insert the subject line for the person > >like: >mail to someone@gmail.com with a subject saying welcome > >I'm sure it is simple but it is evading my memory. >Norm Coombs > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com >CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE >pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: >http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 >6:54 PM > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From alpuzz at msu.edu Tue Aug 26 08:57:23 2008 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Standards for Developing Accessible Software Applications? References: <000001c9039f$d6fd7cf0$84f876d0$@edu> <001801c903a2$76ed0580$64c71080$@com> Message-ID: I am working with a developer of antivirus software, who is interested in increasing the accessibility of their UI. I am a screen reader user myself, not a programmer. I can tell them about the pitfalls of using nonstandard windows controls, advise them to adhere to standard windows keyboard commands, etc. I'm wondering however, whether there are any written guidelines which I could suggest that they study? There are any number of similar standards out there for web developers, so I would think that something similar should exist for developers of software applications. Thanks for any info, Al Puzzuoli Information Technologist Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 http://www.rcpd.msu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Tue Aug 26 09:07:26 2008 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Standards for Developing Accessible Software Applications? In-Reply-To: References: <000001c9039f$d6fd7cf0$84f876d0$@edu> <001801c903a2$76ed0580$64c71080$@com> Message-ID: <002701c90795$d66c8ed0$8345ac70$@com> Hello al, Ask the developers to support MSAA on Windows or UA on the Apple. Depends on what the interface will be like, they may want to checkout IAccessible II as well. Searching for these terms on Google should yield appropriate links. Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:57 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Standards for Developing Accessible Software Applications? I am working with a developer of antivirus software, who is interested in increasing the accessibility of their UI. I am a screen reader user myself, not a programmer. I can tell them about the pitfalls of using nonstandard windows controls, advise them to adhere to standard windows keyboard commands, etc. I'm wondering however, whether there are any written guidelines which I could suggest that they study? There are any number of similar standards out there for web developers, so I would think that something similar should exist for developers of software applications. 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Name: ATHEN Training Survey.xls Type: application/vnd.ms-excel Size: 17920 bytes Desc: ATHEN Training Survey.xls URL: From burke at ucla.edu Tue Aug 26 09:29:02 2008 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Standards for Developing Accessible Software Applications? In-Reply-To: References: <000001c9039f$d6fd7cf0$84f876d0$@edu> <001801c903a2$76ed0580$64c71080$@com> Message-ID: <200808261628.m7QGSqxg020978@mail.ucla.edu> Hi Al, I'm not a programmer either, but here are a couple of starting points, at least on the Windows side. Designing Accessible Applications (Microsoft): Developer Guidelines (IBM, for hardware & software): Patrick At 08:57 AM 8/26/2008, Al Puzzuoli wrote: >I am working with a developer of antivirus software, who is >interested in increasing the accessibility of their UI. I am a >screen reader user myself, not a programmer. I can tell them about >the pitfalls of using nonstandard windows controls, advise them to >adhere to standard windows keyboard commands, etc. I'm wondering >however, whether there are any written guidelines which I could >suggest that they study? There are any number of similar standards >out there for web developers, so I would think that something >similar should exist for developers of software applications. > >Thanks for any info, > > >Al Puzzuoli >Information Technologist >Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 >Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 >http://www.rcpd.msu.edu -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke ucla. edu From burke at ucla.edu Tue Aug 26 10:07:13 2008 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Study Methods For Deaf-Blind Students Message-ID: <200808261707.m7QH7G4L027248@mail.ucla.edu> Hello everyone, Does anyone have experience working with deaf-blind students? I have a contact from Australia who will be in California (& perhaps elsewhere in US) in Feb 2009. She is an Academic Skills Advisor, & so is looking for anyone with detailed knowledge on what study methods work best, or which study skills someone with deaf-blindness might need to emphasize. Any ideas or contacts much appreciated, Patrick -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke ucla. edu From skeegan at htctu.net Tue Aug 26 23:20:05 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessing Higher Ground Schedule Posted Message-ID: <48B4F215.1020602@htctu.net> Sending for Howard - please see below if you are presenting. Take care, Sean ****** Hello All: The conference schedule is finally posted at http://www.colorado.edu/ATconference/. A PDF of the conference packet, including the registration form, is also posted on the site. For those of you who are speaking, please wait for me to send you a speaker registration form. I should be sending this out shortly. Also, I have an embarrassing confession. My hard drive crashed last week and I didn't have a full backup. For those of you who submitted proposals in electronic format (almost all of you), it would help if you would resend those proposals. Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer AT Lab Coordinator AHG Conference Coordinator 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 From skeegan at htctu.net Wed Aug 27 10:20:28 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Settlement in Target.com lawsuit Message-ID: <003001c90869$345ae450$9d10acf0$@net> Hello all, It appears that there is a settlement in the class action lawsuit brought by the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) against Target. Here is a short run down on what I have been able to gather: - No admission that Target.com is in any way inaccessible or violates any laws or statues - Target will ensure that Target.com will meet their online assistive technology guidelines - Target will make changes to Target.com identified by the NFB to support access - Personnel from NFB and Target will meet every 6 months to discuss NFB's recommended updates to Target's online assistive technology guidelines - Target will make payments to NFB for monitoring and training - Target will pay $6 million as part of the class action settlement Jim Thatcher has a brief write-up of this at his site (http://jimthatcher.com/news.htm). You can also get the legal settlement from http://www.nfbtargetlawsuit.com/final_settlement.htm . It is actually an interesting read... Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Web Accessibility Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges From mikegibson at boisestate.edu Wed Aug 27 11:11:14 2008 From: mikegibson at boisestate.edu (Mike Gibson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS and Google Aps accessibility Message-ID: <48B54462020000B60002A41A@hermes.boisestate.edu> Hi all, I apologize if this question has already been asked, but I was just informed our campus is switching facaulty, staff, and students over to Google Apps later this fall. How is the accessibility with JAWS? Are there any pit falls and land mines to be aware of? Thanks for any help. Mike Gibson Assistive Technology Coordinator Boise State University 1910 University Dr. Boise, ID 83725-1375 Phone: (208) 426-1583 Fax: (208) 426-3785 Email: mikegibson@boisestate.edu From ron at ahead.org Wed Aug 27 13:06:21 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [WebAIM] University of Texas Accessibility Institute to close. Message-ID: <05f501c90880$60c77410$22565c30$@org> Some sad news I thought folks would like to be aware of. Ron -----Original Message----- From: webaim-forum-bounces@list.webaim.org [mailto:webaim-forum-bounces@list.webaim.org] On Behalf Of Moore, Michael Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 2:31 PM To: WebAIM Discussion List Subject: [WebAIM] University of Texas Accessibility Institute to close. All, Here is what I have been able to gather from my communications with friends at the University of Texas. 1. The Accessibility Institute at the University of Texas will be closed effective August 29th 2008. 2. Proposals to move the work to the College of Information and/or the College of Computer Science have not been accepted. Although those institutions are capable of conducting the research there are no specific funds, faculty, or researcher positions to support this work. 3. The two primary researchers from the Accessibility Institute are no longer available. The founder and Director, John Slatin, PhD passed away last spring and Kay Lewis, PhD has accepted another position. 4. The University's IT department has few resources dedicated to accessibility. Two systems analysts are assigned 15% of their time each to oversee accessibility for the University's 1M+ web pages. It is very disappointing that the University has made this decision. The University of Texas has the stature, funding, reputation, and experience necessary to attract researchers and faculty needed to continue and build the Accessibility Institute. All that the University's administration seems to lack is the interest. The UT Accessibility Institute through Dr. Slatin was able to exert considerable influence on the development and implementation of accessibility standards world-wide. This included the formation of the W3C Web Accessibility Initiative and the WCAG 1.0 and 2.0 as well as the US Access Board and the Section 508 standards. Although I have tremendous admiration and respect for John, I do not believe that he would have been as influential had his advocacy not been backed by the solid research conducted at the Institute and the prestige of the University of Texas. The loss of the UT Accessibility Institute is a loss for the University, the State of Texas, the nation, and the world. Most importantly it is a loss for millions of disabled people who have benefited from the research, education, and advocacy that was conducted through the Institute. The University runs promotional commercials during sports broadcasts where Walter Cronkite, speaks about the influence of the University. "The University of Texas, what starts here changes the world." This was certainly true of the Accessibility Institute. By closing the Institute, the University of Texas is signaling that accessibility is not a priority anymore. I can only hope that this decision does not change the world. Mike Moore _______________________________________________ To manage your subscription, visit http://list.webaim.org/ Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org From Vasquez at sbcc.edu Wed Aug 27 13:09:33 2008 From: Vasquez at sbcc.edu (Laurie Vasquez) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [WebAIM] University of Texas Accessibility Institute toclose. In-Reply-To: <05f501c90880$60c77410$22565c30$@org> References: <05f501c90880$60c77410$22565c30$@org> Message-ID: <48B5520C.1869.00F8.0@sbcc.edu> A sad day indeed. Laurie >>> "Ron Stewart" 8/27/2008 1:06 PM >>> Some sad news I thought folks would like to be aware of. Ron -----Original Message----- From: webaim-forum-bounces@list.webaim.org [mailto:webaim-forum-bounces@list.webaim.org] On Behalf Of Moore, Michael Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 2:31 PM To: WebAIM Discussion List Subject: [WebAIM] University of Texas Accessibility Institute to close. All, Here is what I have been able to gather from my communications with friends at the University of Texas. 1. The Accessibility Institute at the University of Texas will be closed effective August 29th 2008. 2. Proposals to move the work to the College of Information and/or the College of Computer Science have not been accepted. Although those institutions are capable of conducting the research there are no specific funds, faculty, or researcher positions to support this work. 3. The two primary researchers from the Accessibility Institute are no longer available. The founder and Director, John Slatin, PhD passed away last spring and Kay Lewis, PhD has accepted another position. 4. The University's IT department has few resources dedicated to accessibility. Two systems analysts are assigned 15% of their time each to oversee accessibility for the University's 1M+ web pages. It is very disappointing that the University has made this decision. The University of Texas has the stature, funding, reputation, and experience necessary to attract researchers and faculty needed to continue and build the Accessibility Institute. All that the University's administration seems to lack is the interest. The UT Accessibility Institute through Dr. Slatin was able to exert considerable influence on the development and implementation of accessibility standards world-wide. This included the formation of the W3C Web Accessibility Initiative and the WCAG 1.0 and 2.0 as well as the US Access Board and the Section 508 standards. Although I have tremendous admiration and respect for John, I do not believe that he would have been as influential had his advocacy not been backed by the solid research conducted at the Institute and the prestige of the University of Texas. The loss of the UT Accessibility Institute is a loss for the University, the State of Texas, the nation, and the world. Most importantly it is a loss for millions of disabled people who have benefited from the research, education, and advocacy that was conducted through the Institute. The University runs promotional commercials during sports broadcasts where Walter Cronkite, speaks about the influence of the University. "The University of Texas, what starts here changes the world." This was certainly true of the Accessibility Institute. By closing the Institute, the University of Texas is signaling that accessibility is not a priority anymore. I can only hope that this decision does not change the world. Mike Moore _______________________________________________ To manage your subscription, visit http://list.webaim.org/ Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From norm.coombs at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 16:25:10 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] =?iso-8859-1?q?=93Surpassing_Expectations=94_By_Lawrence_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_Scadden?= Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080827162309.02293508@pop.gmail.com> "Surpassing Expectations" By Lawrence Scadden Larry is a friend of those of us who advocate for providing equal access for people with disabilities to the world of information technology. We are thankful that he has written down many of his experiences in this new book. Larry worked for many years at the National Science Foundation to establish its program for people with disabilities. He has been instrumental in encouraging and facilitating many of the recent advancements in access to science and math. We have every reason to expect the book to be available soon in an electronic format. You can read more at the books' website: http:// LawrenceScadden.com One reviewer says of this book: "Surpassing Expectations is an unforgettable read; one that will linger with the reader long after the last page is turned." Thank you Larry for your work and for your book! Norm Coombs CEO EASI From skeegan at htctu.net Thu Aug 28 13:33:12 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Media Accessibility Job Opening NY/NJ Area Message-ID: <006f01c9094d$4ae84e80$e0b8eb80$@net> Received this from another list. Interesting opportunity for those interested in accessibility in the publishing world. See the link below for the actual job posting. Take care, Sean ******* Please check out this job opening & spread the word: http://jobview.monster.com/GetJob.aspx? . &seq=1 It is Accessibility Work & UI Design Work in the Core Technology Group at Pearson. This job would be 50-60% accessibility work for the right candidate: - VPAT evaluations - Helping maintain internal accessibility guidelines - Helping with internal training - Consulting - Revising products for accessibility and documenting the process for large-scale production It is a central role where you can really make a difference. In addition, it'd be 40-50% Educational UI Design work and/or UI Programming. ****** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ATT00094.txt URL: From skeegan at htctu.net Thu Aug 28 13:36:58 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Development job opportunity in Mozilla accessibility available! Message-ID: <008501c9094d$d211e650$7635b2f0$@net> Received this from another list. For those interested in programming, accessibility and the Web, there is a job opportunity at Mozilla for a full-time engineer to develop accessibility solutions. Development job opportunity in Mozilla accessibility available! http://www.marcozehe.de/2008/08/25/a-job-opportunity-in-mozilla-accessibilit y/ Take care, Sean From ron at ahead.org Fri Aug 29 11:38:36 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [WebAIM] University of Texas Accessibility Institute to close. Message-ID: <002001c90a06$72999880$57ccc980$@org> I am sure some of you will want to participate Ron -----Original Message----- From: webaim-forum-bounces@list.webaim.org [mailto:webaim-forum-bounces@list.webaim.org] On Behalf Of Jared Smith Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:40 PM To: WebAIM Discussion List Subject: Re: [WebAIM] University of Texas Accessibility Institute to close. If you believe it is a poor decision by the University of Texas to close the Accessibility Institute, you can complete the petition at the following URL: http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/SavetheInstitute Jared Smith WebAIM _______________________________________________ To manage your subscription, visit http://list.webaim.org/ Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org