[Athen] Hotel, accessible sleeping rooms & the ADA

ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com
Sat Jan 19 03:46:09 PST 2008


Howard I was wrong I just got my reply from the ADA expert and that is correct.

In the process I came across a great resource for this:

http://www.access-board.gov/ada-aba/comparison/comparison.pdf

Ron

On Jan 18 17:42, Howard Kramer <Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU> wrote:

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> Subject: Re: [Athen] Hotel, accessible sleeping rooms & the ADA

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> The ADAAG regulations (as per the link in dsrisdall's e-mail) do say that

> any hotel with more than 50 rooms has to have a room with a roll in shower.

> 1 additional sleeping room with a roll in shower is required for each

> multiple of 100 rooms in the hotel.

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> Or am I misreading the guidelines?

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> -Howard

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> Howard Kramer

> Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator

> AT Conference Coordinator

> Disability Services

> CU-Boulder, 107 UCB

> Boulder, Co 80309

> 303-492-8672

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> From: athen-bounces at athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces at athenpro.org] On

> Behalf Of Ron Stewart

> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:30 PM

> To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'

> Subject: Re: [Athen] Hotel, accessible sleeping rooms & the ADA

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> That said I do not believe there is a requirement for roll-in showers in the

> guidelines.

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> Ron

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> From: athen-bounces at athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces at athenpro.org] On

> Behalf Of dsrisdall at aol.com

> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 5:27 PM

> To: athen at athenpro.org

> Subject: Re: [Athen] Hotel, accessible sleeping rooms & the ADA

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> Howard,

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> There is no such provision as a grandfather clause in the current ADA

> regulations. Public accommodations operating in older buildings (built prior

> to the ADA) that have not been modified or altered have a requirement to

> remove architectural barriers to people with disabilities. Post ADA

> alterations/ modifications must conform with the ADA Accessibility

> Guidelines (ADAAG).

>

> The section of ADAAG that applies to hotels states that hotels and inns with

> 50 or more sleeping rooms or suites are to provide accessible rooms with

> roll- in shower conforming to the requirements at

> http://www.dbtac.vcu.edu/adaportal//Facility_Access/ADAAG/Special_Occupancie

> s/ADAAG_9.html

> <http://www.dbtac.vcu.edu/adaportal/Facility_Access/ADAAG/Special_Occupancie

> s/ADAAG_9.html> .

>

> This is the standard to strive for in new construction however in older

> buildings it is the ideal level to attain.

>

> There is a very good resource for assisting with both Federal and state ADA

> compliance (for those states with more restrictive laws). The Network of ADA

> Centers can be contacted at (800) 949-4232.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Howard Kramer <Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU>

> To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' <athen at athenpro.org>

> Sent: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:29 pm

> Subject: [Athen] Hotel, accessible sleeping rooms & the ADA

>

> Hello All:

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>

>

> Here's another question and it concerns the Millennium hotel which we use

> for Accessing Higher Ground conference. We've been looking over their

> accessible sleeping rooms. None of their rooms have roll-in showers, only

> grab bars and shower seats. According to the hotel, they're ADA compliant

> because they were grandfathered on the basis of the building being more than

> 50 years old. I'll check some other ADA resources on this but thought some

> of you might be knowledgeable about this.

>

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>

> Is anyone aware of this "grandfather" stipulation? It would seem that not

> having any roll-in shower rooms would be a significant barrier. Any feedback

> would be appreciated.

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>

> Thanks,

>

> Howard

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>

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>

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> Howard Kramer

> Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator

> AT Conference Coordinator

> Disability Services

> CU-Boulder, 107 UCB

> Boulder, Co 80309

> 303-492-8672

>

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