From info at karlencommunications.com Tue Jul 1 04:31:13 2008 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Info @ Karlen Communications) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:27 2025 Subject: [Athen] help with JAWS 9 In-Reply-To: <003e01c8db11$8c2b15e0$a48141a0$@net> References: <003e01c8db11$8c2b15e0$a48141a0$@net> Message-ID: <00cd01c8db6d$f7d8fc10$e78af430$@com> Sean: It is a verbosity setting. As long as images have Alt Text, turning on the graphics: labeled and I also turn on the identification of objects. Note that depending on the images position on "the line" you may hear "slash" until you are right on the image/cursor is in a specific location. You'll need to set the verbosity for both Word 2003 and 2007. Let me know if you need any more help. I'm writing the "Word 2007 from the Keyboard book and have been using Office 2007 since its private beta days. I am also a JAWS user. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:30 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] help with JAWS 9 Has anyone been able to configure JAWS 9 to read an image's text description in MS Word? If so, could you please forward the process you used? I know I have done it in the past, but for some reason I am completely unable to get the settings correct to make this happen. I am using JAWS 9 and Office 2003 and Office 2007. Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Web Accessibility Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From norm.coombs at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 10:12:56 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:27 2025 Subject: [Athen] help with JAWS 9 In-Reply-To: <00cd01c8db6d$f7d8fc10$e78af430$@com> References: <003e01c8db11$8c2b15e0$a48141a0$@net> <00cd01c8db6d$f7d8fc10$e78af430$@com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080701100919.02287ff8@pop.gmail.com> My question on JAWS and images in Word is similar but different. In the past I have inserted an image into Word2003. I moved the cursor till JAWS told me I was at a picture. I used the ap key and one of the choices was "format picture" From there I could put in the text for the picture. I had not done it for some time. Now When I get to the picture and do the ap key, format picture isn't there as if Word doesn't know I am on the picture but JAWS leads me to think that is where I am. I may be using a different version of JAWS or I may have changed some settings in JAWS or Word, but I am not able using JAWS to get the control to format picture. What am I doing wrong??? At 04:31 AM 7/1/2008, you wrote: >Sean: > >It is a verbosity setting. As long as images have Alt Text, turning on the >graphics: labeled and I also turn on the identification of objects. Note >that depending on the images position on "the line" you may hear "slash" >until you are right on the image/cursor is in a specific location. > >You'll need to set the verbosity for both Word 2003 and 2007. > >Let me know if you need any more help. I'm writing the "Word 2007 from the >Keyboard book and have been using Office 2007 since its private beta days. I >am also a JAWS user. > >Cheers, Karen > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Sean Keegan >Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:30 PM >To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' >Subject: [Athen] help with JAWS 9 > >Has anyone been able to configure JAWS 9 to read an image's text description >in MS Word? > >If so, could you please forward the process you used? I know I have done it >in the past, but for some reason I am completely unable to get the settings >correct to make this happen. I am using JAWS 9 and Office 2003 and Office >2007. > >Take care, >Sean > >Sean Keegan >Web Accessibility Instructor >High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 From info at karlencommunications.com Tue Jul 1 11:36:17 2008 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Info @ Karlen Communications) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:27 2025 Subject: [Athen] help with JAWS 9 In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20080701100919.02287ff8@pop.gmail.com> References: <003e01c8db11$8c2b15e0$a48141a0$@net> <00cd01c8db6d$f7d8fc10$e78af430$@com> <6.0.3.0.2.20080701100919.02287ff8@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002801c8dba9$59c55640$0d5002c0$@com> Norm: You have to have the picture selected in order to have Format Picture appear in the context menu. If the cursor is to the immediate left or right of the image, you won't get the context menu for the image when you press the AppKey. If you ask JAWS what is selected, it should tell you "slash" or maybe the filename....could go either way. If you use Ctrl + Down Arrow to go through the document paragraph by paragraph the Alt Text will be read if it is applied. If it isn't, you'll hear "slash." If you use SayAll, the Alt Text is read automatically. I have the verbosity setting to recognize labeled images turned on. You can set it to identify all images while editing a document. If you are adding images to a document, you can press Ctrl + Shift + the letter O to get a list of objects in a document. This is for JAWS 8 or later. It was present in 7.2 but is more reliable in 8. If an image has Alt Text, the Alt Text appears in the list of objects. If it doesn't the filename should appear, or it may say unlabeled graphic. If it is the last image you inserted, it will be the last item in the list so will be easy to find. If you are using Word 2007 the tab now says "Alt Text" and it is a tool you can add to the QAT or Quick Access Toolbar so it is easy to find. It has been moved from "Format Picture" to the Size dialog which is why I recommend putting it on the QAT...lot easier to use. Let me know if this worked for you...I may have another strategy. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:13 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] help with JAWS 9 My question on JAWS and images in Word is similar but different. In the past I have inserted an image into Word2003. I moved the cursor till JAWS told me I was at a picture. I used the ap key and one of the choices was "format picture" From there I could put in the text for the picture. I had not done it for some time. Now When I get to the picture and do the ap key, format picture isn't there as if Word doesn't know I am on the picture but JAWS leads me to think that is where I am. I may be using a different version of JAWS or I may have changed some settings in JAWS or Word, but I am not able using JAWS to get the control to format picture. What am I doing wrong??? At 04:31 AM 7/1/2008, you wrote: >Sean: > >It is a verbosity setting. As long as images have Alt Text, turning on the >graphics: labeled and I also turn on the identification of objects. Note >that depending on the images position on "the line" you may hear "slash" >until you are right on the image/cursor is in a specific location. > >You'll need to set the verbosity for both Word 2003 and 2007. > >Let me know if you need any more help. I'm writing the "Word 2007 from the >Keyboard book and have been using Office 2007 since its private beta days. I >am also a JAWS user. > >Cheers, Karen > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Sean Keegan >Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:30 PM >To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' >Subject: [Athen] help with JAWS 9 > >Has anyone been able to configure JAWS 9 to read an image's text description >in MS Word? > >If so, could you please forward the process you used? I know I have done it >in the past, but for some reason I am completely unable to get the settings >correct to make this happen. I am using JAWS 9 and Office 2003 and Office >2007. > >Take care, >Sean > >Sean Keegan >Web Accessibility Instructor >High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From skeegan at htctu.net Tue Jul 1 12:12:43 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:27 2025 Subject: [Athen] help with JAWS 9 In-Reply-To: <00cd01c8db6d$f7d8fc10$e78af430$@com> References: <003e01c8db11$8c2b15e0$a48141a0$@net> <00cd01c8db6d$f7d8fc10$e78af430$@com> Message-ID: <003601c8dbae$708b9f10$51a2dd30$@net> > It is a verbosity setting. As long as images have Alt Text, > turning on the graphics: labeled and I also turn on the > identification of objects. JAWS 9 changed the verbosity interface and options from JAWS 8, so I wanted to make sure I had not missed anything. With JAWS 8 I was able to get the image descriptions read in MS Word 2003 by insuring the Borders and Picture verbosity setting was "ON" (although JAWS also read the file path for the image as well). With JAWS 9, I was unable to get any information read. I contacted Freedom Scientific this morning after running a few additional tests and they did confirm this is a "known issue". Personally, I call it a bug, but maybe I am just too grouchy in the morning. Supposedly JAWS is moving to a new object model for representing information in MS Word and this is something that is known and may be addressed in a future release. That is all I was able to get from Freedom. Take care, Sean From skeegan at htctu.net Tue Jul 1 17:22:14 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:27 2025 Subject: [Athen] FW: Survey on Access Technology Perspectives Message-ID: <002c01c8dbd9$ae440a60$0acc1f20$@net> For those who would like to provide feedback and perspectives on the field of access technology/assistive computer technology, please respond to the following survey: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=9fmhCKQK7Nv7hYlQqHWumQ_3d_3d Please see below for more information. ******* The survey is to collect data on your perceptions and experiences in the field of access technology. Your responses and feedback is appreciated. The results will be used for research in a Master's degree program in Instructional Technology as well as an article in the ATHEN E-Journal. Results will be posted at the ATHEN website (http://www.athenpro.org ) . Please forward this survey to others who work in the field of access technology. Survey Link: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=9fmhCKQK7Nv7hYlQqHWumQ_3d_3d Thank you for your time. From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Thu Jul 3 05:08:18 2008 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:27 2025 Subject: [Athen] FW: Obtaining Alternative Formats Guidance Now Available Message-ID: <00c401c8dd05$7c5c7c30$75157490$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Interesting news from across the Pond. I have found their Altformat guide to be a great resource. Ron Supporting diversity and equality through improved access Groundbreaking work will provide support for delivery of resources to disabled students and staff The JISC TechDis Service has joined forces with The Publishers Association to provide resources which have the potential to transform the delivery of learning materials to disabled students and staff. These two resources, developed in collaboration with the RNIB (Royal National Institute of Blind People) and several major publishers, will support the delivery of materials in alternative formats to meet the needs of people with a range of disabilities, a crucial requirement for equality of access for all students and staff in education and research. One of the resources - Publisher Lookup UK - will enable education providers and publishers to source electronic formats of textbooks for students with disabilities more quickly and efficiently than existing processes allow. Currently publishers generally provide one of two digital formats - either an e-book or a PDF - but sourcing more accessible formats can be a complex undertaking both from the publishers' and the users' points of view. Publisher Lookup UK provides mechanisms for simplifying request, delivery and access processes between the education and research sectors and UK publishers. The site currently provides links to over 150 imprints and additional guidance on making PDFs accessible to users with a range of disabilities. For further details see www.publisherlookup.org.uk The second resource - Guide to Obtaining Textbooks in Alternative Formats - is designed to provide guidance to teaching, learner support and library staff or anyone who needs to provide text books in alternative formats for reading-impaired learners. Disability law protects disabled learners by requiring institutions to make adequate provision for disabled students, including the provision of alternative formats in a timely manner. People with a range of disabilities benefit from alternative formats and many learners with disabilities are struggling with traditional printed texts despite alternatives being available. For further details see www.techdis.ac.uk/getaltformat The new guide not only helps institutions fulfill their legal obligations, but also supports staff to better understand and provide for the needs of their disabled students. JISC TechDis will be disseminating the guide to both higher and further education institutional Library teams across the UK by the end of July. These resources have grown out of JISC TechDis' long-standing engagement with publishers and The Publishers Association. The ultimate aim of this work is to integrate accessibility into the publishing workflow and thus improve access for disabled people to all publications in a way that is both cost-effective and sustainable. Sal Cooke, Director of JISC TechDis, said: "JISC TechDis is delighted to be working with The Publishers Association to help enhance the learning experience of disabled students. This work has combined JISC TechDis' expertise on accessibility with publishers' determination to make their texts available to all those who need them. It also takes a step towards making the production of a variety of formats part of the publishing mainstream rather than a specialist or ad hoc activity. Institutional library teams and organisations such as SCONUL, Open Rose, ALIS and CLAUD have been instrumental in highlighting this issue, and will also play a vital role in embedding these resources in the workflow of library and information professionals throughout the education sector, and potentially beyond. This collaborative undertaking exemplifies the synergies between the work of JISC TechDis, Library Associations and The Publishers Association, and we hope that this collaboration is the first of many." Graham Taylor, Director of Educational and Academic Publishing at The Publishers Association, said: "Publishers want to play their part in making learning material available in accessible formats. To achieve this we need to work with the agencies supporting disabled learners, in a climate of collaboration and mutual understanding. These two resources are the result of our work so far - a website to help support staff contact publishers, and a guide on how to approach publishers for alternative formats. This work will continue and we look forward to building on the positive progress achieved so far." Dominic Knight of publisher Palgrave said: "Palgrave Macmillan is delighted to have been involved in the scoping and development of these important resources. Publisher Lookup UK and Guide to Obtaining Textbooks in Alternative Formats are practical tools that will help publishers and academic institutions work together to provide publications in accessible formats in a timely manner. We look forward to continuing to work alongside The Publishers Association, JISC TechDis and other stakeholders, to investigate ways in which we can further help bring about a significant improvement in the availability of accessible formats for the reading impaired." These resources are launched as part of JISC's ongoing 'Libraries of the Future' campaign. For further information, please go to: www.jisc.ac.uk/librariesofthefuture For further information please go to: Publisher Lookup UK - www.publisherlookup.org.uk Alternative formats guide - www.techdis.ac.uk/getaltformat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 09:11:45 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:27 2025 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: Care Page for Dick Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080703090914.0228d680@pop.gmail.com> This is Norm Coombs. I know many on this list are friends of Dick Banks and are concerned about the details of his cancer. Mayo Clinic has a care Web page and message board. I had to register an account (free) and when I go back need that username and password. I had trouble locating the actual page for Dick. However, I got a notice when the page was updated and I followed that link and got there without any trouble. Below is mail I got from his wife about the page. >Delivered-To: norm.coombs@gmail.com >Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:37:55 -0500 >From: "Carol Banks" >To: libby.cohen@nie.edu.sg, nancy@lightbody.org, cartoonistman@charter.net, > norm.coombs@gmail.com, madcisco13@hotmail.com, bryce823@yahoo.com, > littlepj63@gmail.com, skullz_77@yahoo.com, shawn@hilohunting.com, > gbanks3@gmail.com, heatherkadinger@yahoo.com, gsteward@wwib.com, > pastoraage@oakridgelbc.org, brown.linda14@mayo.edu, > rosie-jl@charter.net, jerrymj@baldwin-telecom.net, > vwagner@bakke-norman.com >Subject: Care Page for Dick >Cc: letsgo_pens@yahoo.com > >This is just to let everyone know that the Care Page for Dick has been >set up. We just had his "About Me" narrative sent up on his Care >Page. As you will read, Dick has had quite a varied and interesting >life, and, of course, many of you know him as an interesting--and >unique!--individual from both a personal and professional level. From >what I've already read from the well wishes from family and friends, >we know that he is very much loved and respected. This way, we can >all read about his journey with cancer on his Care Page. > >So, I, and our daughter, invite you to view his Care Page at: >http://www.carepages.com/mayoclinic > >I'll send you an Invite from the website itself so that you can go to >Dick's page on your own. I also invite you to send on this >information to others, since I can't possibly write to everyone about >this page, since we, and especially Dick, just know way too many >people to include everyone! > >So now, let's join Dick in this journey, and then let's hope and pray >that we will see more progress as I have already posted on his Care >Page. EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 From saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu Thu Jul 3 12:33:45 2008 From: saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu (Saroj Primlani) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:27 2025 Subject: [Athen] WebVisum Message-ID: <001e01c8dd43$b5d4ab20$61c10798@sarojnewlaptop> Thought I would share this new browser add-on sent to be by Sina. WebVisum is a new browser add-on for Firefox 3.0 that enhances web accessibility and allows for community driven tagging and page enhancements, easier page navigation etc http://www.webvisum.com/ The best part is it handles CAPTCHAS and the ability for users to tag graphics, forms and other page elements which is uploaded to WebVisum so others can benefit from these community contributions. I have just upgraded my browser and downloaded the add-on but have not had the time to review. Marco Zehe has tested and reviewed especially how it handles CAPTCHAS http://www.marcozehe.de/2008/07/03/review-of-the-webvisum-firefox-extension/ Saroj ____________________________________ Saroj Primlani Coordinator of University IT Accessibility Office of Information Technology NC State University Campus Box 7109, Raleigh, NC 27695 919 513 4087 saroj_primlani@ncsu.edu http://ncsu.edu/it/access -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thaven at hawaii.edu Thu Jul 3 18:09:00 2008 From: thaven at hawaii.edu (Teresa LW Haven) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:27 2025 Subject: [Athen] FW: Introduction to Ginger Software's Automatic Text Correction Software Message-ID: <003101c8dd72$8ad0a940$0c71ab80@KOKUAAT> Hello, folks. I'm sure many of you received this same email from Ginger Software regarding their new correction software. If anyone who attends the AHEAD conference also checks out this vendor, would you please share your impressions/observations with me upon your return? On the one hand, it sounds to me like a tool that would help a number of students that I work with; on the other hand, it sounds almost too good to be true, especially for use by college and grad-school students. Your feedback would therefore be greatly appreciated, since I am unable to attend the conference myself. Thanks in advance, and wishing folks a happy holiday (in the US, at least) weekend, and safe travels. Teresa +++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Access Technology Specialist KOKUA Program University of Hawai'i Manoa +++++++++++++++++++++++ _____ From: Miki Feldman-Simon [mailto:mikif@gingersoftware.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:20 AM To: thaven@hawaii.edu Subject: Introduction to Ginger Software's Automatic Text Correction Software Dear Teresa, Ginger software has developed revolutionary software which uses context to automatically correct text. Ginger's breakthrough technology can automatically correct whole sentences and most writing mistakes including, unusual spelling mistakes, misused words, grammar errors and vocabulary. Our software will enable students with language difficulties such as dyslexia to fulfill their true potential in school, at home and in the work environment by finally being able to write texts independently. Today's writing tools (MS Word and others) offer a poor service to this community, struggling with writing, providing automatic correction of < 20% of their writing mistakes. These are some examples of the results you could achieve by using Ginger in comparison to MS Word. Student: I lick two pla artseid sed tom. Ginger: I like to play outside said Tom. MS-Word: I lick two pal arsenide seed tom. Student: This is much wares than the other one Ginger: This is much worse than the other one MS-Word: This is many wares than the other one Student: becals thay ea so fut. Ginger: Because they are so fat. MS-Word: becalms they ea so fut. Student: My idle holiday wood bee on a Geak Iland were the sea was clear blue and fild whith moultey coulerd fish and the sun givs just anuf heat so it isnt cold but it isnt scorching hot Ginger: My ideal holiday would be on a Greek Island where the sea was clear blue and filled with multi colored fish and the sun gives just enough heat so it isn't cold but it isn't scorching hot MS-Word: My idle holiday wood bee on a Geake Inland were the sea was clear blue and field with molten cooler fish and the sun gives just annul heat so it isn't cold but it isn't scorching hot Student: I live ner scul. I lik nater Ginger: I live near schools. I like nature MS-Word: I live nerd scull. I like natter Ginger's revolutionary solution will automatically correct 95% of the mistakes people with learning difficulties make, providing this community with a life changing experience. Ginger also offers a set of complementary tools that enable educators, and parents to analyze and track students' progress. The system provides detailed reports and analysis of most frequent mistakes at student / class / school / district level. We also have very valuable data to share with the research community - the first large database of dyslexic people's writing mistakes, tagged with user's age and the mistakes' source (analysis of common factors and properties of the mistakes). We will be exhibiting at the AHEAD conference and would like to set up a time to meet there if you are available. Looking forward to your reply, Miki -- Miki (Michal) Feldman-Simon VP US Operations Ginger Software Cell: 1 617 230 6600 MikiF@gingersoftware.com www.gingersoftware.com Ginger Software is dedicated to enabling people with learning difficulties to dramatically improve their written communication. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ea at emptech.info Fri Jul 4 14:19:25 2008 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:27 2025 Subject: [Athen] FW: Introduction to Ginger Software's Automatic Text Correction Software In-Reply-To: <003101c8dd72$8ad0a940$0c71ab80@KOKUAAT> References: <003101c8dd72$8ad0a940$0c71ab80@KOKUAAT> Message-ID: <00b401c8de1b$a2f3a960$e8dafc20$@info> Carmel Palti and Mrs. Yael Karov presented their on-line error checker to the British Dyslexia Association New Technologies Group last week. Key features of the software are: 1. Automatic correction of most error types, including: unusual spelling, misused words (real-word errors), extra word insertion or word omission, grammar mistakes (verb inflection, wrong preposition/article usage, plural/single, etc.). 2. Correction is done based on the error context, and it is automatic in most cases. In the remaining cases the system suggests few alternatives, combined with voice, definitions, and sample sentences. 3. Corrections are made while the user is writing a document in Microsoft Word. Corrections while writing in web applications, such as gmail, chats, and forums are planned as a second stage. 4. Reports and statistics are supplied to the users and their teacher/trainer, describing the most common mistakes, and progress over time. 5. The system learns the user's writing patterns, and improves over time. At the moment it does not correct grammar, punctuation or help with vocabulary. These features are meant to be coming on line in 2009. The developers do not wish it to be known as a spell checker, but when it saves errors to its database, it is only saving individual words and not their context. There are concerns about the data it collects as you will need to supply age, area you live in and a few other things to help it learn which corrections need to be provided - say homophones for USA rather than UK. The developers went out of their way to say the only data stored on their servers would be the spelling errors so it can go on improving correction rates. I think this needs to be checked out a bit more. The layout is good and the idea seems clever if you always work on-line - the problem is that for some students this may not always be the case. So I am not sure what they use when they are off-line - maybe they will develop a freestanding model or pen drive. Licensing costs could be an issue - payment by year or whatever - possible GBPs follow -apologies. Cost -subscription per annum Home user ?100 to ?160. Schools license dependent on PC's and users ?50 to ?2500 In UK I reckon we would be seeking corrections levels of above 80% to make it better than spell checkers already on the market. The developers seemed to think this was possible over time with the built in learning systems. Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Teresa LW Haven Sent: 04 July 2008 02:09 To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: Introduction to Ginger Software's Automatic Text Correction Software Hello, folks. I'm sure many of you received this same email from Ginger Software regarding their new correction software. If anyone who attends the AHEAD conference also checks out this vendor, would you please share your impressions/observations with me upon your return? On the one hand, it sounds to me like a tool that would help a number of students that I work with; on the other hand, it sounds almost too good to be true, especially for use by college and grad-school students. Your feedback would therefore be greatly appreciated, since I am unable to attend the conference myself. Thanks in advance, and wishing folks a happy holiday (in the US, at least) weekend, and safe travels. Teresa +++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Access Technology Specialist KOKUA Program University of Hawai'i Manoa +++++++++++++++++++++++ ________________________________ From: Miki Feldman-Simon [mailto:mikif@gingersoftware.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:20 AM To: thaven@hawaii.edu Subject: Introduction to Ginger Software's Automatic Text Correction Software Dear Teresa, Ginger software has developed revolutionary software which uses context to automatically correct text. Ginger's breakthrough technology can automatically correct whole sentences and most writing mistakes including, unusual spelling mistakes, misused words, grammar errors and vocabulary. Our software will enable students with language difficulties such as dyslexia to fulfill their true potential in school, at home and in the work environment by finally being able to write texts independently. Today's writing tools (MS Word and others) offer a poor service to this community, struggling with writing, providing automatic correction of < 20% of their writing mistakes. These are some examples of the results you could achieve by using Ginger in comparison to MS Word. Student: I lick two pla artseid sed tom. Ginger: I like to play outside said Tom. MS-Word: I lick two pal arsenide seed tom. Student: This is much wares than the other one Ginger: This is much worse than the other one MS-Word: This is many wares than the other one Student: becals thay ea so fut. Ginger: Because they are so fat. MS-Word: becalms they ea so fut. Student: My idle holiday wood bee on a Geak Iland were the sea was clear blue and fild whith moultey coulerd fish and the sun givs just anuf heat so it isnt cold but it isnt scorching hot Ginger: My ideal holiday would be on a Greek Island where the sea was clear blue and filled with multi colored fish and the sun gives just enough heat so it isn't cold but it isn't scorching hot MS-Word: My idle holiday wood bee on a Geake Inland were the sea was clear blue and field with molten cooler fish and the sun gives just annul heat so it isn?t cold but it isn?t scorching hot Student: I live ner scul. I lik nater Ginger: I live near schools. I like nature MS-Word: I live nerd scull. I like natter Ginger's revolutionary solution will automatically correct 95% of the mistakes people with learning difficulties make, providing this community with a life changing experience. Ginger also offers a set of complementary tools that enable educators, and parents to analyze and track students' progress. The system provides detailed reports and analysis of most frequent mistakes at student / class / school / district level. We also have very valuable data to share with the research community - the first large database of dyslexic people's writing mistakes, tagged with user's age and the mistakes' source (analysis of common factors and properties of the mistakes). We will be exhibiting at the AHEAD conference and would like to set up a time to meet there if you are available. Looking forward to your reply, Miki -- Miki (Michal) Feldman-Simon VP US Operations Ginger Software Cell: 1 617 230 6600 MikiF@gingersoftware.com www.gingersoftware.com Ginger Software is dedicated to enabling people with learning difficulties to dramatically improve their written communication. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1535 - Release Date: 04/07/2008 17:03 From thaven at hawaii.edu Mon Jul 7 13:00:54 2008 From: thaven at hawaii.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:27 2025 Subject: [Athen] FW: Introduction to Ginger Software's Automatic Text Correction Software In-Reply-To: <00b401c8de1b$a2f3a960$e8dafc20$@info> References: <003101c8dd72$8ad0a940$0c71ab80@KOKUAAT> <00b401c8de1b$a2f3a960$e8dafc20$@info> Message-ID: Many thanks for this report, E.A.; very helpful, and points out some negatives (such as the requirement that a user be online) that were not clear from their website or email. Will keep an eye on this company but it doesn't sound like it's a solution to immediately pursue... Best, Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.A. Draffan" Date: Friday, July 4, 2008 11:27 am Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Introduction to Ginger Software's Automatic Text Correction Software To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Carmel Palti and Mrs. Yael Karov presented their on-line error > checker to > the British Dyslexia Association New Technologies Group last > week. Key > features of the software are: > > 1. Automatic correction of most error types, including: unusual > spelling, misused words (real-word errors), extra word insertion > or word > omission, grammar mistakes (verb inflection, wrong preposition/article > usage, plural/single, etc.). > 2. Correction is done based on the error context, and it is automatic > in most cases. In the remaining cases the system suggests few > alternatives,combined with voice, definitions, and sample > sentences. > 3. Corrections are made while the user is writing a document in > Microsoft Word. Corrections while writing in web applications, > such as > gmail, chats, and forums are planned as a second stage. > 4. Reports and statistics are supplied to the users and their > teacher/trainer, describing the most common mistakes, and > progress over > time. > 5. The system learns the user's writing patterns, and improves over > time. > > At the moment it does not correct grammar, punctuation or help with > vocabulary. These features are meant to be coming on line > in 2009. The > developers do not wish it to be known as a spell checker, but > when it saves > errors to its database, it is only saving individual words and > not their > context. > > There are concerns about the data it collects as you will need > to supply > age, area you live in and a few other things to help it learn which > corrections need to be provided - say homophones for USA rather > than UK. The > developers went out of their way to say the only data stored on their > servers would be the spelling errors so it can go on improving > correctionrates. I think this needs to be checked out a > bit more. > > The layout is good and the idea seems clever if you always work > on-line - > the problem is that for some students this may not always be the > case. So I > am not sure what they use when they are off-line - maybe they > will develop a > freestanding model or pen drive. > > Licensing costs could be an issue - payment by year or whatever - > possible > GBPs follow -apologies. > Cost -subscription per annum Home user ?100 to ?160. Schools license > dependent on PC's and users ?50 to ?2500 > > In UK I reckon we would be seeking corrections levels of above > 80% to make > it better than spell checkers already on the market. The > developers seemed > to think this was possible over time with the built in learning > systems. > > Best wishes E.A. > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > Learning Societies Lab, > ECS, University of Southampton, > Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 > http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk > http://www.emptech.info > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen- > bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Teresa LW Haven > Sent: 04 July 2008 02:09 > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] FW: Introduction to Ginger Software's Automatic Text > Correction Software > > Hello, folks. I'm sure many of you received this same > email from Ginger > Software regarding their new correction software. If > anyone who attends the > AHEAD conference also checks out this vendor, would you please > share your > impressions/observations with me upon your return? On the > one hand, it > sounds to me like a tool that would help a number of students > that I work > with; on the other hand, it sounds almost too good to be true, > especiallyfor use by college and grad-school students. > Your feedback would therefore > be greatly appreciated, since I am unable to attend the > conference myself. > > Thanks in advance, and wishing folks a happy holiday (in the US, at > least) weekend, and safe travels. > > Teresa > > +++++++++++++++++++++++ > Teresa Haven, Ph.D. > Access Technology Specialist > KOKUA Program > University of Hawai'i Manoa > +++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ________________________________ > > From: Miki Feldman-Simon [mailto:mikif@gingersoftware.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:20 AM > To: thaven@hawaii.edu > Subject: Introduction to Ginger Software's Automatic Text Correction > Software > > > Dear Teresa, > > Ginger software has developed revolutionary software which uses > contextto automatically correct text. > > Ginger's breakthrough technology can automatically correct whole > sentences and most writing mistakes including, unusual spelling > mistakes, misused words, grammar errors and vocabulary. Our software > will enable students with language difficulties such as dyslexia to > fulfill their true potential in school, at home and in the work > environment by finally being able to write texts independently. > > Today's writing tools (MS Word and others) offer a poor service > to this > community, struggling with writing, providing automatic > correction of < > 20% of their writing mistakes. These are some examples of the results > you could achieve by using Ginger in comparison to MS Word. > > Student: I lick two pla artseid sed tom. > Ginger: I like to play outside said Tom. > MS- > Word: I lick two pal arsenide seed tom. > > Student: This is much wares than the other one > Ginger: This is much worse than the other one > MS- > Word: This is many wares than the other one > > Student: becals thay ea so fut. > Ginger: Because they are so fat. > MS- > Word: becalms they ea so fut. > > Student: My idle holiday wood bee on a Geak Iland were > the sea was clear blue and fild whith moultey coulerd fish and > the sun > givs just anuf heat so it isnt cold but it isnt scorching hot > Ginger: My ideal holiday would be on a Greek Island > where the sea was clear blue and filled with multi colored fish > and the > sun gives just enough heat so it isn't cold but it isn't > scorching hot > MS- > Word: My idle holiday wood bee on a Geake Inland were the > sea was clear blue and field with molten cooler fish and the sun gives > just annul heat so it isn?t cold but it isn?t scorching hot > > Student: I live ner scul. I lik nater > Ginger: I live near schools. I like nature > MS- > Word: I live nerd scull. I like natter > > Ginger's revolutionary solution will automatically correct 95% > of the > mistakes people with learning difficulties make, providing this > community with a life changing experience. > > Ginger also offers a set of complementary tools that enable educators, > and parents to analyze and track students' progress. The system > providesdetailed reports and analysis of most frequent mistakes > at student / > class / school / district level. > > We also have very valuable data to share with the research > community - > the first large database of dyslexic people's writing mistakes, tagged > with user's age and the mistakes' source (analysis of > common factors > and properties of the mistakes). > > We will be exhibiting at the AHEAD conference and would like to > set up a > time to meet there if you are available. > > Looking forward to your reply, > > Miki > -- > > > Miki (Michal) Feldman-Simon > > VP US Operations > > Ginger Software > > Cell: 1 617 230 6600 > > MikiF@gingersoftware.com > > www.gingersoftware.com > > Ginger Software is dedicated to enabling people with learning > difficulties to dramatically improve their written communication. > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1535 - Release Date: > 04/07/200817:03 > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The following is a draft of our initial course offerings. Human Services in Assistive Technology Core . Biological applications in assistive technology (3) . Human factors and applied behavior analysis (3) . Seminar - Topics in assistive and rehabilitative technologies (3) . Capstone experience (3) Discipline-specific courses . Anatomy, physiology, disease and chronic medical conditions (3) . Assistive technology across the lifespan (3) . Human Services/psychology/counseling (3) . History, law, assistive technology and policy (3) . Assistive technology assessment and outcome measurements (3) . Research methods, ethics and statistics (6) Portfolio . Portfolios will be used for benchmarks and milestone assignments along the way, such as group projects, internship reports and shadowing reflections. Based on this information, we would greatly appreciate your input by responding the to the 5 minute survey link http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=U1z51d97oPtFv_2fzuW43Ifw_3d_3d. Thank you in advance for your valued feedback. Dr. Vicky Jaque, Academic Director S. Victoria Jaque, PhD Associate Professor Graduate Coordinator Director, Exercise and Bone Laboratory Department of Kinesiology College of Health and Human Development California State University, Northridge 18111 Nordhoff St. Northridge, CA 91330-8287 818-677-7506 818-677-3207 (fax) victoria.jaque@csun.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SandraS at usca.edu Tue Jul 8 06:17:19 2008 From: SandraS at usca.edu (Sandra Sanders) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:27 2025 Subject: [Athen] DAISY book question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <04EACB4CCDE78242B9449AB0328B0E1103AF7612@MAIL.usca.edu> We are using Dolphin Publisher to produce our alt media but are having some difficulties with players. Several folks assured me early on that DAISY books we produced would play on any DAISY player, but my Telex Scholars from RFB&D are skipping around in nonsensical order on a recent book. Anyone have a clue as to what we can do? I have a lot of Scholars and Vibes that we hope to make use of. Sandra Sandra Eargle Sanders Assistive Technology Center Supervisor Counseling Center and Disability Services University of South Carolina Aiken 471 University Parkway, Box 15 Aiken, SC 29801 Tel: 803-641-3609 Fax: 803-641-3677 TTY: 803-643-6818 Email: sandras@usca.edu Web: www.usca.edu/cc From kerscher at montana.com Tue Jul 8 06:33:32 2008 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:27 2025 Subject: [Athen] DAISY book question In-Reply-To: <04EACB4CCDE78242B9449AB0328B0E1103AF7612@MAIL.usca.edu> References: <04EACB4CCDE78242B9449AB0328B0E1103AF7612@MAIL.usca.edu> Message-ID: <00ae01c8e0ff$3b410ba0$b1c322e0$@com> Hello, I would start by checking if the material is valid. There are free validation tools on the DAISY Web site at: http://www.daisy.org/tools/tools.shtml?Cat=validation There is also a utility to fix most DAISY 2.02 problems from the various production systems. This regenerator can be found at: http://www.daisy.org/tools/tools.shtml?Cat=related The regenerator also does validation. I normally use this utility to make sure the books I produce play in all the players. In your production process you should be checking the structure of your input document, i.e. that the headings are logical and in a hierarchy, but I think that is explained with the Dolphin tools. Best George > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Sandra Sanders > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:17 AM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: [Athen] DAISY book question > > We are using Dolphin Publisher to produce our alt media but are having > some difficulties with players. Several folks assured me early on that > DAISY books we produced would play on any DAISY player, but my Telex > Scholars from RFB&D are skipping around in nonsensical order on a > recent > book. Anyone have a clue as to what we can do? I have a lot of > Scholars and Vibes that we hope to make use of. > > Sandra > > Sandra Eargle Sanders > Assistive Technology Center Supervisor > Counseling Center and Disability Services > University of South Carolina Aiken > 471 University Parkway, Box 15 > Aiken, SC 29801 > Tel: 803-641-3609 Fax: 803-641-3677 TTY: 803-643-6818 > Email: sandras@usca.edu Web: www.usca.edu/cc > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Tue Jul 8 07:13:48 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:27 2025 Subject: [Athen] audio graphing calculators Message-ID: <485D76DB00001802@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Hi all, What technology (equipment and/or software) is there for audio graphing calculators? We have a student coming in the fall for an intermediate algebra class who is significantly visually impaired but has no experience with JAWS or Braille. We are using lab assistants, readers, raised line graph paper, have a Tiger Embosser & can produce the graphs etc., but we need recommendations for an audible graphing calculator. Thanks in advance for your collective advice! Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From mstores at indiana.edu Tue Jul 8 07:44:28 2008 From: mstores at indiana.edu (Mary Stores) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:27 2025 Subject: [Athen] audio graphing calculators In-Reply-To: <485D76DB00001802@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> References: <485D76DB00001802@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <20080708104428.bxg7oj8u80w088go@webmail.iu.edu> Hello, There is a software version of Accessible Graphic Calculator available; the information is here: http://www.tiresias.org/research/devices/calculators.htm It's the last item on the page. You can purchase it from Independent living Aids. Although the description isn't all that wonderful, you can call their toll-free number to get more info. Mary Quoting Wink Harner : > Hi all, > > What technology (equipment and/or software) is there for audio graphing > calculators? We have a student coming in the fall for an intermediate > algebra class who is significantly visually impaired but has no > experience with JAWS or Braille. We are using lab assistants, readers, > raised line graph paper, have a Tiger Embosser & can produce the graphs > etc., but we need recommendations for an audible graphing calculator. > > Thanks in advance for your collective advice! > > Wink > > Ms. Wink Harner > Manager > Disability Resources & Services > Mesa Community College > Mesa AZ > > > > Ms. Wink Harner > Manager > Disability Resources & Services > Mesa Community College > Mesa AZ > > 480-461-7447 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From rbeach at kckcc.edu Tue Jul 8 10:25:55 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] DAISY book question In-Reply-To: <04EACB4CCDE78242B9449AB0328B0E1103AF7612@MAIL.usca.edu> References: <04EACB4CCDE78242B9449AB0328B0E1103AF7612@MAIL.usca.edu> Message-ID: <48735CD3020000CF0001756E@mymail.kckcc.edu> Sandra, Can you send me the original source files you used to create the DAISY book? If you can send me the DAISY books files as well, I can test thema nd see if I can find out what's happening. I have sevearl software and hardware players here that I can test on. I also have Publisher that I can use to generate the DAISY book again. Maybe between all that, we can figure out what's going on. It may be the player going bad. Did you try the same CD in a different player? It could also be the CD is defective. Did you try burning the same book to a different CD and test it on the same player? Let me know if you want me to try some of these things for you. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Sandra Sanders" 7/8/2008 8:17 AM >>> We are using Dolphin Publisher to produce our alt media but are having some difficulties with players. Several folks assured me early on that DAISY books we produced would play on any DAISY player, but my Telex Scholars from RFB&D are skipping around in nonsensical order on a recent book. Anyone have a clue as to what we can do? I have a lot of Scholars and Vibes that we hope to make use of. Sandra Sandra Eargle Sanders Assistive Technology Center Supervisor Counseling Center and Disability Services University of South Carolina Aiken 471 University Parkway, Box 15 Aiken, SC 29801 Tel: 803-641-3609 Fax: 803-641-3677 TTY: 803-643-6818 Email: sandras@usca.edu Web: www.usca.edu/cc _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From skeegan at htctu.net Tue Jul 8 10:58:07 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] audio graphing calculators In-Reply-To: <485D76DB00001802@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> References: <485D76DB00001802@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <003701c8e124$2dda69a0$898f3ce0$@net> > What technology (equipment and/or software) is there for audio > graphing calculators? One software option that we have used is the Audio Graphing Calculator from ViewPlus (http://www.viewplus.com/products/braille-math/AGC/). It is self-voicing, so a screen-reader is not required. Take care, Sean From gdietrich at htctu.net Tue Jul 8 12:01:19 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] DAISY book question In-Reply-To: <04EACB4CCDE78242B9449AB0328B0E1103AF7612@MAIL.usca.edu> References: <04EACB4CCDE78242B9449AB0328B0E1103AF7612@MAIL.usca.edu> Message-ID: <002501c8e12d$021975a0$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> I'm wondering if you have a DAISY 3 book that you are trying to play on a DAISY 2.02 player. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sandra Sanders Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:17 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] DAISY book question We are using Dolphin Publisher to produce our alt media but are having some difficulties with players. Several folks assured me early on that DAISY books we produced would play on any DAISY player, but my Telex Scholars from RFB&D are skipping around in nonsensical order on a recent book. Anyone have a clue as to what we can do? I have a lot of Scholars and Vibes that we hope to make use of. Sandra Sandra Eargle Sanders Assistive Technology Center Supervisor Counseling Center and Disability Services University of South Carolina Aiken 471 University Parkway, Box 15 Aiken, SC 29801 Tel: 803-641-3609 Fax: 803-641-3677 TTY: 803-643-6818 Email: sandras@usca.edu Web: www.usca.edu/cc _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From gdietrich at htctu.net Tue Jul 8 15:05:32 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] audio graphing calculators In-Reply-To: <485D76DB00001802@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> References: <485D76DB00001802@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <007301c8e146$be04e010$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Also remember MathTrax: http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/MathTrax/ It won't work as the only calculator, but it is free and has a nice description feature. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:14 AM To: ATHEN; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: [Athen] audio graphing calculators Hi all, What technology (equipment and/or software) is there for audio graphing calculators? We have a student coming in the fall for an intermediate algebra class who is significantly visually impaired but has no experience with JAWS or Braille. We are using lab assistants, readers, raised line graph paper, have a Tiger Embosser & can produce the graphs etc., but we need recommendations for an audible graphing calculator. Thanks in advance for your collective advice! Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From marks at mso.umt.edu Tue Jul 8 15:52:24 2008 From: marks at mso.umt.edu (Marks, Jim) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Brl back translators In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20080630164117.0230d830@pop.gmail.com> References: <000d01c8dab2$429fec70$61c10798@sarojnewlaptop> <6.0.3.0.2.20080630164117.0230d830@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7ACF865D@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Norm, how do you like the text-to-speech feature of the Victor Stream? While the Stream is by far the best audio player I've ever used, it's text-to-speech is fuzzy and awkward. I'm curious if you find the same. Thanks! ----- Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/disability ----- -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 5:42 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Brl back translators Hi Victor stream just announced it will play brf so I guess I don't need one now. From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Tue Jul 8 18:27:19 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] audio graphing calculators In-Reply-To: <007301c8e146$be04e010$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <485D76DB00001802@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> <007301c8e146$be04e010$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <487413F7.5070505@mcmail.maricopa.edu> Thanks Gaier. Steve just contacted me about it! He's going to do a demo for the student. How cool is that? Wink Gaeir Dietrich wrote: > Also remember MathTrax: > > http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/MathTrax/ > > It won't work as the only calculator, but it is free and has a nice > description feature. > > ****************************************************** > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > High Tech Center Training Unit of the > California Community Colleges > De Anza College, Cupertino, CA > www.htctu.net > 408-996-6043 > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Wink Harner > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:14 AM > To: ATHEN; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: [Athen] audio graphing calculators > > Hi all, > > What technology (equipment and/or software) is there for audio graphing > calculators? We have a student coming in the fall for an intermediate > algebra class who is significantly visually impaired but has no > experience with JAWS or Braille. We are using lab assistants, readers, > raised line graph paper, have a Tiger Embosser & can produce the graphs > etc., but we need recommendations for an audible graphing calculator. > > Thanks in advance for your collective advice! > > Wink > > Ms. Wink Harner > Manager > Disability Resources & Services > Mesa Community College > Mesa AZ > > > > Ms. Wink Harner > Manager > Disability Resources & Services > Mesa Community College > Mesa AZ > > 480-461-7447 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sandra Sandra Eargle Sanders Assistive Technology Center Supervisor Counseling Center and Disability Services University of South Carolina Aiken 471 University Parkway, Box 15 Aiken, SC 29801 Tel: 803-641-3609 Fax: 803-641-3677 TTY: 803-643-6818 Email: sandras@usca.edu Web: www.usca.edu/cc -----Original Message----- From: Robert Beach [mailto:rbeach@kckcc.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:26 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] DAISY book question Sandra, Can you send me the original source files you used to create the DAISY book? If you can send me the DAISY books files as well, I can test thema nd see if I can find out what's happening. I have sevearl software and hardware players here that I can test on. I also have Publisher that I can use to generate the DAISY book again. Maybe between all that, we can figure out what's going on. It may be the player going bad. Did you try the same CD in a different player? It could also be the CD is defective. Did you try burning the same book to a different CD and test it on the same player? Let me know if you want me to try some of these things for you. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Sandra Sanders" 7/8/2008 8:17 AM >>> We are using Dolphin Publisher to produce our alt media but are having some difficulties with players. Several folks assured me early on that DAISY books we produced would play on any DAISY player, but my Telex Scholars from RFB&D are skipping around in nonsensical order on a recent book. Anyone have a clue as to what we can do? I have a lot of Scholars and Vibes that we hope to make use of. Sandra Sandra Eargle Sanders Assistive Technology Center Supervisor Counseling Center and Disability Services University of South Carolina Aiken 471 University Parkway, Box 15 Aiken, SC 29801 Tel: 803-641-3609 Fax: 803-641-3677 TTY: 803-643-6818 Email: sandras@usca.edu Web: www.usca.edu/cc _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From mikegibson at boisestate.edu Wed Jul 9 08:15:48 2008 From: mikegibson at boisestate.edu (Mike Gibson) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Brl back translators Message-ID: <487481C7020000B6000270A5@hermes.boisestate.edu> I would concur with you Jim. The TTS on the Stream leaves a little to be desired. I have installed Vocalizer Tom and while the inflection is a little more to my liking the sound quality is still that digital fuzzy sound and it tends to studder a bit. When I worked at Humanware R&D told me they had to reduce the sound quality to 8 bits and 11 khz to minimize memory taken up by the TTS. Regards, Mike Gibson AT Coordinator Boise State University (208) 426-1583 _____________________________________________ From: "Marks, Jim" [mailto:marks@mso.umt.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:52 PM To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Subject: Re: [Athen] Brl back translators Norm, how do you like the text-to-speech feature of the Victor Stream? While the Stream is by far the best audio player I've ever used, it's text-to-speech is fuzzy and awkward. I'm curious if you find the same. Thanks! ----- Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/disability ----- -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 5:42 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Brl back translators Hi Victor stream just announced it will play brf so I guess I don't need one now. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From norm.coombs at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 10:53:42 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] We lost our friend, Dick Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080709105224.02264c30@pop.gmail.com> Hi: Many of you will have seen this info re Dick Banks already from other lists. If not, take the link at the top of our home page: http://easi.cc Norm Coombs From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Wed Jul 9 11:22:02 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] We lost our friend, Dick In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20080709105224.02264c30@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20080709105224.02264c30@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00c101c8e1f0$aee2f810$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Hi Norm, I'm so sorry to hear about Dick. He was a great guy. I can remember the first time I ever saw him years ago - presenting at CSUN - he definitely made an impression, striding back and forth across the front of the room, talking about AT like it was the holy grail. The only consoling factor is that he had a great life and was surrounded by friends and family until the end. So sorry again, that you lost your buddy. Best Regards, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:54 AM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] We lost our friend, Dick Hi: Many of you will have seen this info re Dick Banks already from other lists. If not, take the link at the top of our home page: http://easi.cc Norm Coombs _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Vasquez at sbcc.edu Wed Jul 9 11:26:06 2008 From: Vasquez at sbcc.edu (Laurie Vasquez) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] We lost our friend, Dick In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20080709105224.02264c30@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20080709105224.02264c30@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4874A04C.1869.00F8.0@sbcc.edu> Dear Norm, It is with great sadness that I read about Dick today. Just know that you are correct in believing that you were blessed with the love and care that you had with Dick in your life. As I shared with Carol the other day, loss is a process of memories, smiles and tears. I am thankful that I had smiles from Dick every time I saw him at CSUN, he was always so excited to see his many friends who shared this amazing field, called assistive technology. I called Dick an institution and meant it. Seeing Norm and Dick together always made me smile as I knew they were cooking up something interesting and wonderful for folks to partake in. My heart goes out to both of you and your families, Laurie Vasquez Assistive Technology Specialist DSPS & Faculty Resource Center Santa Barbara City College 721 Cliff Drive Santa Barbara, CA. 93109-2394 Phone: (805) 965-0581 ext. 2529 Fax: (805) 884-4966 E-mail: vasquez@sbcc.edu >>> Prof Norm Coombs 7/9/2008 10:53 AM >>> Hi: Many of you will have seen this info re Dick Banks already from other lists. If not, take the link at the top of our home page: http://easi.cc Norm Coombs _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Laurie Vasquez.vcf URL: From Glenda at webaccessibility.biz Wed Jul 9 11:41:53 2008 From: Glenda at webaccessibility.biz (Glenda Watson Hyatt - Soaring Eagle Communications) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] We lost our friend, Dick In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20080709105224.02264c30@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: Norm, I'm so sorry to hear about the passing of Dick. He will be missed in the AT field. My thoughts are with his family and friends. Respectfully, Glenda Check out Accessibility 100 - a series of 100 easy-to-implement, free and inexpensive tips for improving accessibility for people with disabilities, available at http://www.doitmyselfblog.com/category/accessibility-100/ Glenda Watson Hyatt, The Left Thumb Blogger Author of I'll Do It Myself Blog: www.doitmyselfblog.com Email: Glenda@BooksbyGlenda.com Facebook: http://profile.to/GlendaWatsonHyatt/ Skype: Glenda.Watson.Hyatt (text only, please) Twitter: http://twitter.com/GlendaWH -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: July 9, 2008 10:54 AM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] We lost our friend, Dick Hi: Many of you will have seen this info re Dick Banks already from other lists. If not, take the link at the top of our home page: http://easi.cc Norm Coombs _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1542 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 6:50 AM From jbailey at uoregon.edu Thu Jul 10 18:00:04 2008 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Remembering Dick Banks Message-ID: <1215738004.192423.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> I have posted a small tribute to Dick on my blog. Please feel free to leave a comment with your feelings or stories about Dick. http://athighered.blogspot.com/ -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu From e.henley at snhu.edu Fri Jul 11 07:00:53 2008 From: e.henley at snhu.edu (Henley, Elizabeth) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Virtual Server and Kurzweil In-Reply-To: <487481C7020000B6000270A5@hermes.boisestate.edu> References: <487481C7020000B6000270A5@hermes.boisestate.edu> Message-ID: <55544D528384A540A4FBC885CB2BF04101C58A8C82A6@SNHU-CCR-A.snhu.edu> Does anyone here use Kurzweil on a virtual server/network? We're looking into how that would work, and I'm trying to find someone who's already done it incase our IT staff have any questions. I know I've heard of schools that have done it, I just can't remember which ones at this point. We have online students and different continuing education centers that aren't on the main network. I'd also really like to go this route over the license-to-go, if possible. In the future we may also look into doing Dragon this way. Thanks, Liz Liz Henley Disability Specialist, Office of Disability Services Southern New Hampshire University 2500 North River Rd Manchester, NH 03106 (603) 668-2211, ext. 2118 From rblee at gw.fis.ncsu.edu Fri Jul 11 07:08:16 2008 From: rblee at gw.fis.ncsu.edu (Ricky Lee) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Virtual Server and Kurzweil In-Reply-To: <55544D528384A540A4FBC885CB2BF04101C58A8C82A6@SNHU-CCR-A.snhu.edu> References: <487481C7020000B6000270A5@hermes.boisestate.edu> <55544D528384A540A4FBC885CB2BF04101C58A8C82A6@SNHU-CCR-A.snhu.edu> Message-ID: <4877310F.F543.0078.1@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> I've been doing that for some time, and could talk to you and/or your IT staff. Ricky Lee Assistant Director & Coordinator of Assistive Technology Disability Services Office NC State University Phone: 919-513-3556 TTY: 919-515-8830 ricky_lee@ncsu.edu http://www.ncsu.edu/dso >>> On 7/11/2008 at 10:00 AM, in message <55544D528384A540A4FBC885CB2BF04101C58A8C82A6@SNHU-CCR-A.snhu.edu>, "Henley, Elizabeth" wrote: Does anyone here use Kurzweil on a virtual server/network? We're looking into how that would work, and I'm trying to find someone who's already done it incase our IT staff have any questions. I know I've heard of schools that have done it, I just can't remember which ones at this point. We have online students and different continuing education centers that aren't on the main network. I'd also really like to go this route over the license-to-go, if possible. In the future we may also look into doing Dragon this way. Thanks, Liz Liz Henley Disability Specialist, Office of Disability Services Southern New Hampshire University 2500 North River Rd Manchester, NH 03106 (603) 668-2211, ext. 2118 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu Fri Jul 11 12:35:22 2008 From: saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu (Saroj Primlani) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Virtual servers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3441.24.40.128.28.1215804922.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu> Liz, What exactly do you mean by virtual servers? Do you mean authenticating for licensing on the virtual server or do you mean a virtual environment accessed remotely using remote desktop protocol? If you mean authenticating for licensing, then it should not be problem and would be same as network installation. However, if you mean provisioning in a remote virtual environment using VMware etc, then there are some issues. Currently literacy applications like Kurzweil do not support remote access using protocols like RDP. Majorproblem is the audio is buffered on the remote machine and there is a lag which may not be a problem if you do not want to synchronize it with visual tracking. It is about 3-4 words behind on a high speed connection on the university's network and increases relative to connection speed. Saroj -- Saroj Primlani Coordinator of University IT Accessibility Office of Information Technology NC State Campus Box 7109 Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 Phone: 919-513-4087 Email: Saroj_Primlani@ncsu.edu http://www.ncsu.edu/it/access > Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Remembering Dick Banks (James Bailey) > 2. Virtual Server and Kurzweil (Henley, Elizabeth) > 3. Re: Virtual Server and Kurzweil (Ricky Lee) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:00:04 -0700 > From: "James Bailey" > Subject: [Athen] Remembering Dick Banks > To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" > > Message-ID: <1215738004.192423.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I have posted a small tribute to Dick on my blog. Please feel free to > leave a comment with your feelings or stories about Dick. > > http://athighered.blogspot.com/ > > -- > James Bailey > Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon > 1299 University of Oregon > Eugene, OR 97403-1299 > Office: 541-346-1076 > jbailey@uoregon.edu > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:00:53 -0400 > From: "Henley, Elizabeth" > Subject: [Athen] Virtual Server and Kurzweil > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > Message-ID: > <55544D528384A540A4FBC885CB2BF04101C58A8C82A6@SNHU-CCR-A.snhu.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Does anyone here use Kurzweil on a virtual server/network? We're looking > into how that would work, and I'm trying to find someone who's already > done it incase our IT staff have any questions. I know I've heard of > schools that have done it, I just can't remember which ones at this point. > We have online students and different continuing education centers that > aren't on the main network. I'd also really like to go this route over the > license-to-go, if possible. In the future we may also look into doing > Dragon this way. > > Thanks, > Liz > > Liz Henley > Disability Specialist, Office of Disability Services > Southern New Hampshire University > 2500 North River Rd > Manchester, NH 03106 > (603) 668-2211, ext. 2118 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:08:16 -0400 > From: "Ricky Lee" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Virtual Server and Kurzweil > To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" > > Message-ID: <4877310F.F543.0078.1@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I've been doing that for some time, and could talk to you and/or your IT > staff. > > Ricky Lee > Assistant Director & Coordinator of Assistive Technology > Disability Services Office > NC State University > Phone: 919-513-3556 > TTY: 919-515-8830 > ricky_lee@ncsu.edu > http://www.ncsu.edu/dso > > >>>> On 7/11/2008 at 10:00 AM, in message > <55544D528384A540A4FBC885CB2BF04101C58A8C82A6@SNHU-CCR-A.snhu.edu>, > "Henley, Elizabeth" wrote: > Does anyone here use Kurzweil on a virtual server/network? We're > looking into how that would work, and I'm trying to find someone who's > already done it incase our IT staff have any questions. I know I've > heard of schools that have done it, I just can't remember which ones at > this point. We have online students and different continuing education > centers that aren't on the main network. I'd also really like to go this > route over the license-to-go, if possible. In the future we may also > look into doing Dragon this way. > > Thanks, > Liz > > Liz Henley > Disability Specialist, Office of Disability Services > Southern New Hampshire University > 2500 North River Rd > Manchester, NH 03106 > (603) 668-2211, ext. 2118 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080711/8bccd074/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10 > ************************************* > From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Mon Jul 14 13:49:02 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Suggestions for vendors for tactile graphics, nemeth braille Message-ID: <000a01c8e5f3$0ca5b860$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Hello All: Does anyone have any suggestions for outside vendors for creating tactiles and nemeth Braille. I'm trying to find a service for a sister university trying to convert a Thermodynamics book. (I left a message for with that hot new company digilife media a couple of weeks ago about this but never heard back.) -Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.gardner at orst.edu Tue Jul 15 00:11:57 2008 From: john.gardner at orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Suggestions for vendors for tactile graphics, nemeth braille In-Reply-To: <000a01c8e5f3$0ca5b860$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> References: <000a01c8e5f3$0ca5b860$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <000301c8e64a$1382d990$16b2a8c0@johnz> Hello Howard. I can recommend my friends in Salem. They do a lot of math and science transcribing. Braille Plus PO Box 3686 4552 Croisan Creek Road S. Salem, OR 97302 Phone: (503) 391-5335 Fax: (503) 391-9359 Toll Free: (866) 264-2345 service@brailleplus.net www.brailleplus.net John _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:49 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Suggestions for vendors for tactile graphics, nemeth braille Hello All: Does anyone have any suggestions for outside vendors for creating tactiles and nemeth Braille. I'm trying to find a service for a sister university trying to convert a Thermodynamics book. (I left a message for with that hot new company digilife media a couple of weeks ago about this but never heard back.) -Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Tue Jul 15 10:48:12 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Suggestions for vendors for tactile graphics, nemeth braille In-Reply-To: <000301c8e64a$1382d990$16b2a8c0@johnz> References: <000a01c8e5f3$0ca5b860$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> <000301c8e64a$1382d990$16b2a8c0@johnz> Message-ID: <003601c8e6a2$f4a9ac70$6501a8c0@ad.colorado.edu> Thanks John. -Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of John Gardner Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:12 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Suggestions for vendors for tactile graphics,nemeth braille Hello Howard. I can recommend my friends in Salem. They do a lot of math and science transcribing. Braille Plus PO Box 3686 4552 Croisan Creek Road S. Salem, OR 97302 Phone: (503) 391-5335 Fax: (503) 391-9359 Toll Free: (866) 264-2345 service@brailleplus.net www.brailleplus.net John _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:49 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Suggestions for vendors for tactile graphics, nemeth braille Hello All: Does anyone have any suggestions for outside vendors for creating tactiles and nemeth Braille. I'm trying to find a service for a sister university trying to convert a Thermodynamics book. (I left a message for with that hot new company digilife media a couple of weeks ago about this but never heard back.) -Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 13:47:51 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Announcing the Dick Banks Memorial Scholarship Program Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080715134222.023a2e88@pop.gmail.com> Dick Banks Memorial Scholarship program Dick loved teaching online. He loved sharing what he knew. He loved helping people learn how to make the world of information more accessible to people with disabilities. EASI can think of no better way to honor his memory than to provide scholarships to both the EASI Webinars and to the EASI online courses. EASI will award free scholarships each year to the EASI Webinar Series and to the EASI online courses. To read more about the scholarships, take the link from either the Webinar page at: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm or the Courses page at: http://workshop.htm Norm Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com From johumber at iupui.edu Wed Jul 16 07:09:43 2008 From: johumber at iupui.edu (Humbert, Joseph A) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN iTunes U Accessibility Evaluation Message-ID: Please help us get the message out to Apple by completing this evaluation of the iTunes software! Please follow the link below: ATHEN iTunes U Accessibility Evaluation The evaluation will run from July 16th through September 16th, 2008. A request will be sent to the following listservs next week. * IN-AHEAD * AHEAD * California listservs - Jayme Johnson * DSSHE We encourage you to post it to other listservs. If you do we ask you email Joe Humbert johumber@iupui.edu So we can keep track and send out reminders. Thank You ATHEN iTunes U Accessibility Working Group. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 14:17:04 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] ***Two EASI Webinars Coming Soon Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080718141419.02248cf0@pop.gmail.com> EASI has 2 Webinars in the next 3 weeks that are both interesting and important 1. Webinar: AMIS a Free Software DAISY Pllayer Wed. July 23 at 2 PM EASTERN Presenter: Norm Coombs The DAISY format will increasingly become the format for e-books in the near future because of its greatly enhanced document navigation. However, the DAISY documents require a special player to access them. There are a number of commercial hardware and software DAISY players. AMIS, (Adaptive Multimedia Information System), is a free open source software DAISY player which can be downloaded from (http://amis.sourceforge.net/) This Webinar will provide a very brief introduction to AMIS and will discuss installing it and describe its settings and functions. 2 Webinar on the Word-to-DAISY Add-in 3 Thursday August 7 at 2 PM Eastern Presenter: George Kerscher from the DAISY Consortium The new "Save as DAISY XML" add-in, designed for Microsoft Office Word 2007, Word 2003 and Word XP, will allow users to save Open XML-based text files into DAISY XML navigable books. It can be download by Office Word users for free at http://www.openxmlcommunity.org/daisy. This XML output can then be processed through the DAISY Pipeline, a free downloadable transformation suite that supports the seamless conversion of DAISY XML into DAISY Digital Talking Book (DTB) format. Together these technologies provide a comprehensive solution for converting text documents into accessible formats for people with print disabilities. Users can download the DAISY Pipeline from the DAISY Project page at http://www.daisy.org/projects/pipeline/. ** you can read more about these 2 Webinars and register at: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca Sat Jul 19 13:40:23 2008 From: asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca (Jennison Mark Asuncion) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Dragon use during exams Message-ID: Hello, Passing a question along from a colleague in the UK. Is the use of Dragon, particularly the most recent versions, acceptable in an exam situation particularly because it includes the ability to create macros? Some have argued that the availability of the macro function introduces the possibility that this could allow pre-prepared material ( for example whole paragraphs) to be inserted into answers when a student is using his/her own computer to sit for an exam. If the most recent versions are being used during exams, has concern been raised over the potential for cheating using macros, and if so, how have you mitigated this concern and the potential for cheating? Thanks, Jennison Jennison Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/Jennison From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Sat Jul 19 20:35:14 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Dragon use during exams In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <485D76DB00002CA7@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Hi Jennison et al in ATHENland, I think you can create a student profile in Dragon and disable the macros. Save the profile (on the server or on a thumb drive). Try it out & see if it works as it should. Blessings, Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College >-- Original Message -- >Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:40:23 -0400 (EDT) >From: Jennison Mark Asuncion >To: Equal Access to Software & Information , > athen@athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] Dragon use during exams >Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > >Hello, > >Passing a question along from a colleague in the UK. > >Is the use of Dragon, particularly the most recent versions, acceptable in >an exam situation particularly because it includes the ability to create >macros? Some have argued that the availability of the macro function >introduces the possibility that this > could allow pre-prepared material ( for example whole paragraphs) to be > inserted into answers when a student is using his/her own computer to >sit for an exam. If the most recent versions are being used during >exams, has concern been raised over the potential for cheating using >macros, and if so, how have you mitigated this concern and the potential > >for cheating? > >Thanks, >Jennison > >Jennison Asuncion >Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org >LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/Jennison > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From alpuzz at msu.edu Sun Jul 20 08:59:36 2008 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Dragon use during exams References: Message-ID: In my mind, the question would be, "What is the balance between accommodating in any way possible, as opposed to protecting the integrity of the test taking environment?" There's no right answer, but it's hard enough to lock things down tightly on a centrally managed PC. If a student were using his/her own computer, doing so would be virtually impossible. In such a situation, if that student decided that she wanted to cheat, she would find a way, so I wouldn't worry too much about Dragon in particular. Al Puzzuoli Michigan State University Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 517-884-1915 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jennison Mark Asuncion Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 4:40 PM To: Equal Access to Software & Information; athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Dragon use during exams Hello, Passing a question along from a colleague in the UK. Is the use of Dragon, particularly the most recent versions, acceptable in an exam situation particularly because it includes the ability to create macros? Some have argued that the availability of the macro function introduces the possibility that this could allow pre-prepared material ( for example whole paragraphs) to be inserted into answers when a student is using his/her own computer to sit for an exam. If the most recent versions are being used during exams, has concern been raised over the potential for cheating using macros, and if so, how have you mitigated this concern and the potential for cheating? Thanks, Jennison Jennison Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/Jennison _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From coroberti at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 07:00:00 2008 From: coroberti at gmail.com (Robert Iakobashvili) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Ghotit Dyslexia Literacy Assistance In-Reply-To: <7e63f56c0807210657m5d88925bjbcaff5058c9d33ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <7e63f56c0807210657m5d88925bjbcaff5058c9d33ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7e63f56c0807210700s7a294bfayf5b40f2c89579de3@mail.gmail.com> Ladies and Gentlemen, The novel writing assistance to adults and kids with dyslexia is at www.ghotit.com as a free access on-line speller, which is: - context-aware and context correcting; - phonetic; - copes with large editing distances; - iterative; - provides description sentences for spelling candidates; - text-to-speech for our web-site is available for Internet Explorer, better IE-7. Testing at the corpus of the texts written by the people with dyslexia, we get above 90% of correction success, where the most popular editors are well below 40%. Prior to using it better to look at the HOW-TO-USE: http://www.ghotit.com/howtouse.shtml Grammar and punctuation corrections will be added on later. Some references are here: http://speedchange.blogspot.com/2008/02/ghotit.html http://www.ldresources.org/?p=1475 http://www.ldonline.org/resources%20new/c772/ http://blog.buzvia.com/site-review-ghotit-co-spell-checker-service Some people are considering Ghotit as the best spelling tool EVER: http://reachingallreaders.wikispaces.com/Technology+Supports?responseToken=2b64321ae077d3b17ded7dec3bfa8143 >From Teaching Every Student Ghotit received the title "the BEST spell checker for students" http://teachingeverystudent.blogspot.com/2007/06/free-technology-toolkit-for-udl-in-all.html Your opinions will be valued. Yours faithfully, Robert Iakobashvili, Ph.D. ...................................................................... www.ghotit.com Assistive technology that understands you ....................................................................... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 10:12:59 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] EASI Plans for 2008-09 Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080721101055.0238b328@pop.gmail.com> EASI Plans for 2008-09 First, I want to thank you all for your encouragements for EASI to continue. Yes we owe it to Dick Banks legacy. Below are a list of Webinars. . . some single events and some 4-part paid series. Several of the items are things currently being planned. I am also grateful for some other ideas you folk have sent in during the last few days. I also appreciate all the offers of help. Planning and organizing takes time, but before September I will have a rather full schedule of events for the remainder of 2008 and have some information on other activities I will be considering. Frankly, I am still trying to clean up a number of loose ends so that I can start to plan the future with a clean plate. Your support attending the public Webinars, registering for the 4-part Webinar Series and your taking some of the online classes are crucial to our survival. You are our sole source of support. Note the Webinar this Wednesday. You can access it at 2 PM Eastern from http://easi.cc/entrance.htm I promise you that we will have a full schedule in place by September. For many of you, your memberships are coming near an end. I'll send you individual reminders hopefully this week, and I hope you realize how much you are helping others besides getting a useful service for yourself. . . . . . . . . . . . . Here is the skeleton of what is on the Webinar page. You can get a fuller description at: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm Webinar Snapshot: AMIS a Free Software DAISY Player Wed. July 23 at 2 PM EASTERN Presenter: Norm Coombs August Free Webinar on the Word-to-DAISY Add-in Thursday August 7 at 2 PM Eastern Presenter: George Kerscher from the DAISY Consortium Understanding the New Look of Office 2007 Presenter Joel Isaac This will be on a Saturday in mid to late August September Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Version 2 Guidelines September 11 at 2 PM Eastern Presenters: WAI staff and consultants Attend a Virtual Conference on Accessible Distance Education EASI Paid Series of 4 live Webinars Sept. 9, 16, 23, 30 at 2 PM Presenter Norman Coombs, Ph.D. and EASI CEO Week 1 Sept. 9: Overview of distance learning accessibility Week 2 Sept. 16: Accessible distance learning is a three-legged stool Week 3 Sept. 23: Designing simple, accessible content for distance education Week 4 Sept. 30: More complex content: multimedia, science, math and graphics Topics actively under final planning for Webinar 4-part Series Tips on Buying Accessible Hardware and Software (Making Informed Decisions) This will include tips on how to select the appropriate software for a person and how to make use of the VPAT (Voluntary Product Accessibility Template) Using Web 2.0 to Enhance Web Accessibility While the expanding interactive uses of the web have changed the environment so much that some have taken to calling it "Web 2.0". Many of these interactive features put up new accessibility, many of these features can be used to improve accessibility. For one thing, it makes it possible for a Web page to query the application accessing it and then adjust the display for maximum usability for that person. Update on Advances in Math and Science Accessibility Higher math and electronic scientific texts have been problems, but there have many people and several NSF grants working to change that. Recently this work has been bearing fruit. This series will explain the problems, the solutions and demonstrate the "how to" of using these solutions in education. Learning Disabilities and Adaptive Technology Part 1 Learning Disabilities - Adolescents and Adults Part 2: K-12 through Transition: One Size Does Not Fit All Part 3: LD and AT in Post-secondary Education Part 4: The Matrix: Incorporating Universal Design for Learning in a Post-secondary setting for Students with Learning Disabilities We are looking for ideas for Webinars and we also would love to have volunteers to be presenters. We will provide a free annual Webinar membership to any such volunteer. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From hmaxwell3 at earthlink.net Thu Jul 24 18:36:30 2008 From: hmaxwell3 at earthlink.net (Helene Maxwell) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Assistive Technology Position .5 at College of Alameda Message-ID: <14063323.1216949790411.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi everyone, Sorry for cross posting. Please forward to people you know who may be interested. The College of Alameda in Alameda, California (San Francisco Bay Area) has a .5 Assistive Technology Instructor Long Term Substitute position open for Fall 08 and Spring 09. The instructor needs to be proficient in ACT for students with a variety of disabilities. The minimum qualifications (based on California Title 5 regulations) are: (1) Possession of a master?s degree, or equivalent foreign degree, in the category of disability, special education, education, psychology, educational psychology, or rehabilitation counseling; and (2) Fifteen semester units of upper division or graduate study in the area of disability, to include, but not be limited to: (A) Learning disabilities; (B) Developmental disabilities; (C) Deaf and hearing impaired; (D) Physical disabilities; or (E) Adapted computer technology. The classes (lecture and lab) meet on Mondays and Wednesdays. On Tuesdays and Thursdays Becky Stone, an acclaimed ABI specialist, teaches classes. We have a well-equipped lab with a full-time skilled lab assistant. We are in a beautiful setting with very supportive administrators, faculty, and staff. Salary is based on experience and education. Approximate range for this half-time position would be $22,000 to $32,000 with partial benefits. If you meet these qualifications and would like to be considered for the position, please email your resume to me at hmaxwell@peralta.edu. If you need more information, please let me know. I will be away from July 26 through August 9. Feel free to send resumes or questions and I'll get back to you when I return. Thank you. Helene Helene Maxwell, Coordinator Programs and Services for Students with Disabilities College of Alameda 555 Ralph Appezzato Memorial Parkway Alameda, CA. 94501 (510) 748-2326 From tft at u.washington.edu Fri Jul 25 07:51:52 2008 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] FW: Freedom Scientific suit against GW Micro Message-ID: <200807251451.m6PEpucS021839@smtp.washington.edu> Interesting news... -----Original Message----- From: uaccess-l-admin@trace.wisc.edu [mailto:uaccess-l-admin@trace.wisc.edu] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:00 AM To: guispeak@freelists.org; program-l@freelists.org; uaccess-l@tracecenter.org Subject: [UACCESS-L] Freedom Scientific suit against GW Micro FYI -- This involves the two leading screen reader companies in our field. Freedom Scientific has sued GW Micro for infringing a patent that FS filed on the placemarker feature of a JAWS virtual web page. A blog article that supplies the legal text is "Freedom Scientific Files Patent Infringement Lawsuit Against GW Micro" http://blog.blindaccessjournal.com/ The technical text of the patent claim is "United States Patent: 6993707" http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fn etahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=%226,993,707 +B2%22&OS= An initial response by GW Micro is "Do companies really compete on who has the best lawyers?" http://www.gwmicro.com/blog/ The FS web site does not appear to mention the suit at this time. I encourage people to become informed about this, and to express their views through appropriate channels. Regards, Jamal From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Fri Jul 25 08:04:46 2008 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] FW: Freedom Scientific suit against GW Micro In-Reply-To: <200807251451.m6PEpucS021839@smtp.washington.edu> References: <200807251451.m6PEpucS021839@smtp.washington.edu> Message-ID: <00ac01c8ee67$c7069a40$5513cec0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Got to love them venture capital folks. I guess FS does not worry about bad press. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:52 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] FW: Freedom Scientific suit against GW Micro Interesting news... -----Original Message----- From: uaccess-l-admin@trace.wisc.edu [mailto:uaccess-l-admin@trace.wisc.edu] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:00 AM To: guispeak@freelists.org; program-l@freelists.org; uaccess-l@tracecenter.org Subject: [UACCESS-L] Freedom Scientific suit against GW Micro FYI -- This involves the two leading screen reader companies in our field. Freedom Scientific has sued GW Micro for infringing a patent that FS filed on the placemarker feature of a JAWS virtual web page. A blog article that supplies the legal text is "Freedom Scientific Files Patent Infringement Lawsuit Against GW Micro" http://blog.blindaccessjournal.com/ The technical text of the patent claim is "United States Patent: 6993707" http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fn etahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=%226,993,707 +B2%22&OS= An initial response by GW Micro is "Do companies really compete on who has the best lawyers?" http://www.gwmicro.com/blog/ The FS web site does not appear to mention the suit at this time. I encourage people to become informed about this, and to express their views through appropriate channels. Regards, Jamal _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From glmcgranahan at ysu.edu Fri Jul 25 08:06:22 2008 From: glmcgranahan at ysu.edu (Gina McGranahan) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Banner and Screen Readers Message-ID: <7842141.1216998382578.JavaMail.glmcgranahan@ysu.edu> Hi, I am a new poster and would like to know if anyone who uses Banner at their University has trouble with screen readers accessing it. Is there anything that can be done. Thank you for your assistance. Gina ------------------------------------- Gina McGranahan Assistant Director, Marion G. Resch Center for Student Progress Disability Services Youngstown State University Youngstown, OH 44555 Phone: 330-941-2090 Fax: 330-941-7470 From pwhite3 at exchange.calstatela.edu Fri Jul 25 14:21:01 2008 From: pwhite3 at exchange.calstatela.edu (White, Phillip B.) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Jaws with Zoomtext in Vista In-Reply-To: <7842141.1216998382578.JavaMail.glmcgranahan@ysu.edu> References: <7842141.1216998382578.JavaMail.glmcgranahan@ysu.edu> Message-ID: <249223C7F58DC140A96F27C89DBAF12F02BE86D3@santafe7.academic.ad.calstatela.edu> I have heard that there is a problem running both Zoomtext and Jaws in Vista. Anyone know about this? I think it had something to do with video chaining -- can anyone explain that, and provide info based on their experience? Phillip White Adaptive Technology Coordinator Cal State University Los Angeles From rmhaven at stanford.edu Fri Jul 25 14:21:10 2008 From: rmhaven at stanford.edu (Shelley Haven) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] AT job opening at Stanford -- One more time! Message-ID: Hi everyone! Stanford has once again reposted the assistive technology position for the Office of Accessible Education (OAE) -- my former job. For those of you familiar with the previous two job postings (from Nov. 2007 and earlier this year), you'll notice this one has some significant changes. First, the position now reports entirely within the Vice Provost of Student Affairs office (of which the OAE is a part) as opposed to being split between the OAE and Academic Computing. Also, it carries a different title -- "Associate Director, Assistive Technology" and reports to the the OAE's director. To check it out, go to http://jobs.stanford.edu/find_a_job.html, scroll down to "Keyword Search", and type in 31421 (or "assistive technology"). If you're interested, you can apply and submit your resume online from that page. Good luck! - Shelley Haven From alpuzz at msu.edu Fri Jul 25 15:43:25 2008 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Jaws with Zoomtext in Vista References: <7842141.1216998382578.JavaMail.glmcgranahan@ysu.edu> <249223C7F58DC140A96F27C89DBAF12F02BE86D3@santafe7.academic.ad.calstatela.edu> Message-ID: Hi Phillip, We have ZoomText 9.1 and Jaws 9.0 installed on Windows Vista Business. That image is deployed across 55 computers throughout our office. In my experience, the two programs can coexist just fine on the same machine, so long as you don't try to run them simultaneously. If you want to see a rather spectacular system crash: launch ZoomText, launch Jaws, and then exit Jaws. Vista no longer utilizes video chaining as it was implemented in XP. Now, there's the "Mirror driver", which many screen readers utilize in order to access information being displayed. However, the Mirror driver apparently doesn't support magnification, so ZoomText is undoubtedly using an alternate API I'm not familiar with. In short though, if you just want the two programs to be installed on the same machine, you're fine; but, if you were hoping to run them simultaneously, you might want to consider another solution such as MAGic. Al Puzzuoli Michigan State University Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 517-884-1915 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of White, Phillip B. Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 5:21 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Jaws with Zoomtext in Vista I have heard that there is a problem running both Zoomtext and Jaws in Vista. Anyone know about this? I think it had something to do with video chaining -- can anyone explain that, and provide info based on their experience? Phillip White Adaptive Technology Coordinator Cal State University Los Angeles _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From fgsmith at vcu.edu Sat Jul 26 13:03:11 2008 From: fgsmith at vcu.edu (Frances G Smith/AC/VCU) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Frances G Smith/AC/VCU is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 07/22/2008 and will not return until 07/28/2008. I will respond to your message when I return. From norm.coombs at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 14:45:09 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Help re Explorer 7 and google Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080726144225.02282ac0@pop.gmail.com> When I come to a form to fill in, I keep hearing a message that my google toolbar can fill it in for me. I don't know how to turn that OFF!! Not only don't I want it to do that, but I really fear that it can be keeping that data and storing it somewhere. I thought it was that google was my explorer preferred search. I changed that but I still get that not helpful request. Any help? Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From goodman at eri-wi.org Sat Jul 26 15:12:16 2008 From: goodman at eri-wi.org (Phillip Goodman) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Help re Explorer 7 and google In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20080726144225.02282ac0@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20080726144225.02282ac0@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: Go to add /remove programs in the control panel and remove the Google toolbar and Google desktop application if it is installed. They are both useless and invasive to your system. If your home page is set to Google or not you can always access that search option by going to their homepage. Why would anyone need the other installations? IE has a form field filler as an add-on anywho. Of course those applications are storing the information you input to form fields, just as IE does. The best way to clean that information out periodically is to use this utility www.ccleaner.com Be careful as it will also wipe out passwords stored and some other information you may want to keep track of before you use it. Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTR/L Assistive Technology Consultant/Systems Administrator Employment Resources, Inc. 4126 Lien Rd. Suite 104 Madison, WI 53575 phone 608-246-3444 ext. 234 fax 608-246-3445 -----Original Message----- From: Prof Norm Coombs [mailto:norm.coombs@gmail.com] Sent: July 26, 2008 4:45 PM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Help re Explorer 7 and google When I come to a form to fill in, I keep hearing a message that my google toolbar can fill it in for me. I don't know how to turn that OFF!! Not only don't I want it to do that, but I really fear that it can be keeping that data and storing it somewhere. I thought it was that google was my explorer preferred search. I changed that but I still get that not helpful request. Any help? Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at ahead.org Sat Jul 26 15:31:51 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Help re Explorer 7 and Google In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20080726144225.02282ac0@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20080726144225.02282ac0@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001301c8ef6f$6887fcd0$3997f670$@org> Hey Norm, Do you need the Google toolbar for some reason? If not then I would uninstall it. I hate "helpful" software. :) Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 5:45 PM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Help re Explorer 7 and google When I come to a form to fill in, I keep hearing a message that my google toolbar can fill it in for me. I don't know how to turn that OFF!! Not only don't I want it to do that, but I really fear that it can be keeping that data and storing it somewhere. I thought it was that google was my explorer preferred search. I changed that but I still get that not helpful request. Any help? Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From norm.coombs at gmail.com Sun Jul 27 14:52:50 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Help re Explorer 7 and google In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.3.0.2.20080726144225.02282ac0@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080727145209.0224a818@pop.gmail.com> I did uninstall it but when I went to that particular form, I still had it tell me my toolbar could fill it in. I had even rebooted my computer! At 03:12 PM 7/26/2008, you wrote: >Go to add /remove programs in the control panel and remove the Google >toolbar and Google desktop application if it is installed. They are both >useless and invasive to your system. If your home page is set to Google or >not you can always access that search option by going to their homepage. >Why would anyone need the other installations? IE has a form field filler as >an add-on anywho. Of course those applications are storing the information >you input to form fields, just as IE does. The best way to clean that >information out periodically is to use this utility www.ccleaner.com >Be careful as it will also wipe out passwords stored and some other >information you may want to keep track of before you use it. > >Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTR/L >Assistive Technology Consultant/Systems Administrator >Employment Resources, Inc. >4126 Lien Rd. Suite 104 >Madison, WI 53575 >phone 608-246-3444 ext. 234 >fax 608-246-3445 >-----Original Message----- >From: Prof Norm Coombs [mailto:norm.coombs@gmail.com] >Sent: July 26, 2008 4:45 PM >To: athen-athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] Help re Explorer 7 and google > >When I come to a form to fill in, I keep hearing a message that my google >toolbar can fill it in for me. I don't know how to turn that OFF!! Not >only don't I want it to do that, but I really fear that it can be keeping >that data and storing it somewhere. >I thought it was that google was my explorer preferred search. I changed >that but I still get that not helpful request. > >Any help? > >Norm > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com >CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information >phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) >****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: >http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From goodman at eri-wi.org Sun Jul 27 17:20:15 2008 From: goodman at eri-wi.org (Phillip Goodman) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Help re Explorer 7 and google In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20080727145209.0224a818@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20080726144225.02282ac0@pop.gmail.com> <6.0.3.0.2.20080727145209.0224a818@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <89DCA49F175F41B3B2D54F299DFC5078@porch> I would go to www.download.com and do a search for JV PowerTools registry cleaner. It is a 30 day trial but it is a GREAT program and fully functional for the trial period. I wouldn't try to use any other features unless you read the documentation first. DO a run, regedit command and back up (export) your registry settings to my documents first. I don't trust 2nd party backups... Use the registry cleaner in basic mode. Then use the FIX option. If anything gets quirky you can always restore the registry backup. This program has fixed a lot of "quirks" for quite a number of client systems..... Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTR/L Assistive Technology Consultant/Systems Administrator Employment Resources, Inc. 4126 Lien Rd. Suite 104 Madison, WI 53575 phone 608-246-3444 ext. 234 fax 608-246-3445 -----Original Message----- From: Prof Norm Coombs [mailto:norm.coombs@gmail.com] Sent: July 27, 2008 4:53 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Help re Explorer 7 and google I did uninstall it but when I went to that particular form, I still had it tell me my toolbar could fill it in. I had even rebooted my computer! At 03:12 PM 7/26/2008, you wrote: >Go to add /remove programs in the control panel and remove the Google >toolbar and Google desktop application if it is installed. They are both >useless and invasive to your system. If your home page is set to Google or >not you can always access that search option by going to their homepage. >Why would anyone need the other installations? IE has a form field filler as >an add-on anywho. Of course those applications are storing the information >you input to form fields, just as IE does. The best way to clean that >information out periodically is to use this utility www.ccleaner.com >Be careful as it will also wipe out passwords stored and some other >information you may want to keep track of before you use it. > >Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTR/L >Assistive Technology Consultant/Systems Administrator >Employment Resources, Inc. >4126 Lien Rd. Suite 104 >Madison, WI 53575 >phone 608-246-3444 ext. 234 >fax 608-246-3445 >-----Original Message----- >From: Prof Norm Coombs [mailto:norm.coombs@gmail.com] >Sent: July 26, 2008 4:45 PM >To: athen-athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] Help re Explorer 7 and google > >When I come to a form to fill in, I keep hearing a message that my google >toolbar can fill it in for me. I don't know how to turn that OFF!! Not >only don't I want it to do that, but I really fear that it can be keeping >that data and storing it somewhere. >I thought it was that google was my explorer preferred search. I changed >that but I still get that not helpful request. > >Any help? > >Norm > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com >CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information >phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) >****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: >http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jbailey at uoregon.edu Sun Jul 27 17:48:51 2008 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Help re Explorer 7 and google In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20080727145209.0224a818@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20080727145209.0224a818@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1217206131.746833.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> I know, Norm, you've uninstalled it, but google tool bar lets you turn off auto fill under "settings" at the right end of of the tool bar. James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:52:50 -0700, Prof Norm Coombs wrote: > I did uninstall it but when I went to that particular form, I still had it > tell me my toolbar could fill it in. I had even rebooted my computer! > At 03:12 PM 7/26/2008, you wrote: > >Go to add /remove programs in the control panel and remove the Google > >toolbar and Google desktop application if it is installed. They are both > >useless and invasive to your system. If your home page is set to Google or > >not you can always access that search option by going to their homepage. > >Why would anyone need the other installations? IE has a form field filler as > >an add-on anywho. Of course those applications are storing the information > >you input to form fields, just as IE does. The best way to clean that > >information out periodically is to use this utility www.ccleaner.com > >Be careful as it will also wipe out passwords stored and some other > >information you may want to keep track of before you use it. > > > >Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTR/L > >Assistive Technology Consultant/Systems Administrator > >Employment Resources, Inc. > >4126 Lien Rd. Suite 104 > >Madison, WI 53575 > >phone 608-246-3444 ext. 234 > >fax 608-246-3445 > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Prof Norm Coombs [mailto:norm.coombs@gmail.com] > >Sent: July 26, 2008 4:45 PM > >To: athen-athenpro.org > >Subject: [Athen] Help re Explorer 7 and google > > > >When I come to a form to fill in, I keep hearing a message that my google > >toolbar can fill it in for me. I don't know how to turn that OFF!! Not > >only don't I want it to do that, but I really fear that it can be keeping > >that data and storing it somewhere. > >I thought it was that google was my explorer preferred search. I changed > >that but I still get that not helpful request. > > > >Any help? > > > >Norm > > > > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > >Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com > >CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information > >phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) > >****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: > >http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Athen mailing list > >Athen@athenpro.org > >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Athen mailing list > >Athen@athenpro.org > >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com > CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information > phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) > ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: > http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From pminyard at memphis.edu Mon Jul 28 06:55:41 2008 From: pminyard at memphis.edu (Phillip M Minyard (pminyard)) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] JAWS and ZoomText Message-ID: <15A9E914639EB34BAB4BC10D603529E621B8E3A947@itexbe5.uom.memphis.edu> ZoomText is a great program. However, to avoid problems, we run JAWS and Magic networked on our server. No problems. Phillip Minyard Disability Services Coordinator Student Disability Services University of Memphis 110 Wilder Tower Memphis, TN 38152-3520 Voice 678-2880 - fax 678-3070 "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." Mahatma Ghandi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blrichwine at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 09:20:59 2008 From: blrichwine at gmail.com (Brian Richwine) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] JAWS with ZoomText in Vista Message-ID: <62a0ac600807280920v45bd6702n16c6202367daefee@mail.gmail.com> Hello Phillip, Here at IU, we have network versions of JAWS Professional Version 9.0.2169 and ZoomText Version 9.14 (Level 2) running on the Vista build in our student computing labs. We don't have any problems with running them both at the same time on Vista (we are using Vista Enterprise). We've played around with running JAWS, ZoomText, and Kurzweil 3000 in all possible combinations and in general never experienced any crashes or significant problems other than the general confusion of having two or more programs talking to you at once. The one exception is when both JAWS and ZoomText are running at the same time (starting order doesn't matter), and then JAWS is closed it does causes Vista to crash / generate a blank blue screen. Running both JAWS and ZoomText works fine, though, as long as ZoomText is closed before closing JAWS. We don't see it as much of an issue as few of our users use both products at once. If JAWS crashes, it has not been seen to take ZoomText or the system down with it. We experimented briefly with MAGic, due to some difficulties we were having initially getting ZoomText's unsigned mirror driver to install as a fully automatic (non-interactive) silent install (it installs fine if installed manually). If an attempt is made to run both MAGic and ZoomText at the same time (silly I know), a blue screen of death with instantly occur. We didn't have any problems with having JAWS, MAGic, and ZoomText all installed at once as long as ZoomText and MAGic were not launched at the same time. In our testing, we noticed that both MAGic and ZoomText would occasionally seem to freeze up briefly (for 1-5 seconds) when panning the screen on machines that had only 1GB of RAM in them. Both appear to work fine on worstations that have 2GB of RAM installed on them. A downside of Vista, is that both ZoomText and MAGic had trouble performing text smoothing on text chararcters that appear in certain parts of the start menu and other program menus that Vista presents even if the font smoothing display setting is turned off. Another downside seems to be that in Vista, both MAGic and ZoomText seem to do a less than stelallar job of tracking the input focus and panning the screen accordingly. Even when exiting either ZoomText or MAGic they would frequently not pan the display over to their "Do you really want to close..." dialog boxes. This can make it rather confusing to new and sometimes experienced users alike! After we figured out how to sign ZoomText's mirrored display driver with one of our own software publishing/signing certificates as sort of outlined in the Microsoft document "Step-By-Step Guide to Device Driver Signing and Staging", we were able to get it to install automatically and didn't pursue using MAGic as our low vision clients prefer ZoomText. The JAWS silent installer somehow manages to get its mirrored display driver to install on Vista even though it is marked as unsigned, but the Freedom Scientific Braille display drivers fail to install as they also are unsigned. We have not yet persued signing their Braille display drivers. NOTE: This is NOT a problem if you are manually installng JAWS. The lack of Braille display drivers only occurs on unattended slient installs that run in a non-interactive mode (scheduled tasks, deployed through group policy, etc.). The mirrored display drivers seem more stable than their driver chaining ancestors. We were able to both install and uninstall in any order any of JAWS, MAGic, and ZoomText without having any effect on the functionality of the others or the stablilty of the system. Also, we could upgrade/downgrade the video display drivers without needing reinstall or run the mirror display applications as admin -- this is a great advance as it makes maintaining the machines much much easier! Unlike the display driver chaining model, mirrored display drivers sit in parallel with the display driver that is running the physical graphics card / display. The Graphics Device Interface layer of the Vista OS sends parallel copies of drawing operations to the physical display drivers as well as any mirrored display drivers that are operating. This allows screen reading applications to use or ignore those drawing operations as they see fit inorder to develop their own model of the information being presented on the screen. Since they all operate in parallel, a mirrored display driver can not affect what appears on the real display or any of the other mirrored display drivers. On some XP builds, we would get random blue screens / crashes on machines that had ZoomText installed (even when it wasn't operational) despite working with AI Squared's technical support folks we could never get a fix for that, so ZoomText was taken off of those machines. Hopefully, the mirrored display drivers will continue to prove to be more stable as our experience so far has convinced the teams responsible for the builds to all the programs to be installed everywhere once again. Sincerely, Brian Richwine * ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- * *Brian Richwine* *Adaptive Technology Support Specialist* *Adaptive Technology Center* *Indiana University - Bloomington/Indianapolis* *http://iuadapts.indiana.edu* *(812) 856-4112* * ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- * -----Original Message----- Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:21:01 -0700 From: "White, Phillip B." Subject: [Athen] Jaws with Zoomtext in Vista To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: < 249223C7F58DC140A96F27C89DBAF12F02BE86D3@santafe7.academic.ad.calstatela.edu > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I have heard that there is a problem running both Zoomtext and Jaws in Vista. Anyone know about this? I think it had something to do with video chaining -- can anyone explain that, and provide info based on their experience? Phillip White Adaptive Technology Coordinator Cal State University Los Angeles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:43:25 -0400 From: "Al Puzzuoli" Subject: Re: [Athen] Jaws with Zoomtext in Vista To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Phillip, We have ZoomText 9.1 and Jaws 9.0 installed on Windows Vista Business. That image is deployed across 55 computers throughout our office. In my experience, the two programs can coexist just fine on the same machine, so long as you don't try to run them simultaneously. If you want to see a rather spectacular system crash: launch ZoomText, launch Jaws, and then exit Jaws. Vista no longer utilizes video chaining as it was implemented in XP. Now, there's the "Mirror driver", which many screen readers utilize in order to access information being displayed. However, the Mirror driver apparently doesn't support magnification, so ZoomText is undoubtedly using an alternate API I'm not familiar with. In short though, if you just want the two programs to be installed on the same machine, you're fine; but, if you were hoping to run them simultaneously, you might want to consider another solution such as MAGic. Al Puzzuoli Michigan State University Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 517-884-1915 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A Master's degree with a background in psychology, education, or counseling, or a Bachelor's degree and two years of relevant experience required. Salary based on education and experience with a minimum of $30,274 per year. Apply online at: https://uscjobs.sc.edu/applicants/Central?quickFind=61289. Review of applications will begin immediately and continue until August 27, 2008. Inquiries about position may be sent via email to CindyG@usca.edu. USCA is an AA/EOE. USCA, with a student population of 3,200, is located in Aiken, SC, is 20 miles from Augusta, GA and an hour from Columbia, the state capital. U.S. News & World Report has ranked USCA as one of the top three public comprehensive colleges in the South every year since they began this ranking system. The Aiken area is known for its temperate climate, recreational opportunities, thoroughbred training industry, cultural events, and historic homes. 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They do a lot of math and science transcribing. Braille Plus PO Box 3686 4552 Croisan Creek Road S. Salem, OR 97302 Phone: (503) 391-5335 Fax: (503) 391-9359 Toll Free: (866) 264-2345 service@brailleplus.net www.brailleplus.net John ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:49 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Suggestions for vendors for tactile graphics, nemeth braille Hello All: Does anyone have any suggestions for outside vendors for creating tactiles and nemeth Braille. I'm trying to find a service for a sister university trying to convert a Thermodynamics book. (I left a message for with that hot new company digilife media a couple of weeks ago about this but never heard back.) -Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Wed Jul 30 17:57:10 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Mon Jan 13 11:26:28 2025 Subject: [Athen] Question about renewing ATHEN registrations at AHG Message-ID: <009201c8f2a8$5eaa8480$7801a8c0@ad.colorado.edu> Hello All: This message is in particular for Ron, Dan, Pratik and the other executive officers. At CSUN, we talked about the possibility of ATHEN members renewing their memberships via AHG. In the past, interested attendees can sign up and pay for ATHEN membership through conference registration. Since they then receive a discount from the conference, it's obviously an encouragement for them to sign up at the time of registering since the conference savings almost pays for the membership. AT CSUN, we talked about expanding this to membership renewal. We could do this by changing the item "ATHEN Professional Membership" to "ATHEN Professional Membership, including ATHEN membership renewal" - or perhaps something more eloquent I or someone can come up with later. One issue with this is that only individual membership is offered through the AHG registration at this time. Are there other options that should be made available? I'm currently working on how the registration form for AHG will look in paper and on the Web, so I can incorporate any changes once I hear back. 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You can get its archive with a link near the top of the >Webinar page: >http://easi.cc/clinic.htm > >The new "Save as DAISY XML" add-in, designed for Microsoft Office Word >2007, Word 2003 and Word XP, will allow users to save Open XML-based text >files into DAISY XML navigable books. It was created through an open source >project with Microsoft, Sonata Software Ltd. and the Digital Accessible >Information SYstem (DAISY) Consortium and can be downloaded by Microsoft >Office Word users for free at >http://www.openxmlcommunity.org/daisy. > >This XML output can then be processed through the DAISY Pipeline, a free >downloadable transformation suite that supports the seamless conversion of >DAISY XML into DAISY Digital Talking Book (DTB) format. Together these >technologies provide a comprehensive solution for converting text documents >into accessible formats for people with print disabilities. Users can >download the DAISY Pipeline from the DAISY Project page at >http://www.daisy.org/projects/pipeline/. > >You can register for this Webinar at: >http://easi.cc/clinic.htm > >Norm Coombs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm