From kcahill at MIT.EDU Sun Jun 1 08:51:15 2008 From: kcahill at MIT.EDU (Kathleen Cahill) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20080531172319.02312040@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20080531172319.02312040@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4842C573.1090304@mit.edu> Hi Norm; I have Acrobat Professional 8, which adds an extra menu item in Microsoft Word to allow me to "Save as PDF". I checked the Adobe website to see if Acrobat Standard 8 allows the same thing and they are not clear about that: "Create Adobe PDF documents with one button ease from Microsoft Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office applications, including Access, Outlook, and Publisher, as well as Lotus Notes." But they do not specifically mention MS Word. I would contact Adobe to clarify before making a purchase of Acrobat Standard. Kathy Cahill MIT ATIC (Adaptive Technology) Lab > I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions of Acrobat will > put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. > My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat > Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? > > Norm > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From tft at u.washington.edu Sun Jun 1 09:44:53 2008 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word In-Reply-To: <4842C573.1090304@mit.edu> Message-ID: <200806011644.m51GiuEA002071@smtp.washington.edu> Hi Norm, Kathy, and all, The Adobe Acrobat family product comparison matrix at http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html includes a feature "Create PDF documents from any application that prints, including one-button creation from Microsoft Word, Excel, and PowerPoint". This feature is available in Standard, Pro, and 3D versions. Terry Terry Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:51 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > > Hi Norm; > > I have Acrobat Professional 8, which adds an extra menu item > in Microsoft Word to allow me to "Save as PDF". I checked > the Adobe website to see if Acrobat Standard 8 allows the > same thing and they are not clear about that: "Create Adobe > PDF documents with one button ease from Microsoft Internet > Explorer and Microsoft Office applications, including Access, > Outlook, and Publisher, as well as Lotus Notes." But they do > not specifically mention MS Word. > > I would contact Adobe to clarify before making a purchase of > Acrobat Standard. > > Kathy Cahill > MIT ATIC (Adaptive Technology) Lab > > > I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions > of Acrobat > > will put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. > > My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat > > Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? > > > > Norm > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu Sun Jun 1 14:29:39 2008 From: saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu (Saroj Primlani) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1348.24.40.128.28.1212355779.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu> Norm, Word 7 does not require you to have Acrobat standard or professional. It will allow you to save as PDF/XPS document and allows you to set options for structured document tagged for accessibility. You can still install Acrobat and it will also show up in the tool bar and when saving the document. In Word 2003 you still need to have Acrobat installed. Saroj Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Question re Acrobat and Word (Prof Norm Coombs) > 2. Re: Question re Acrobat and Word (Kathleen Cahill) > 3. Re: Question re Acrobat and Word (Terry Thompson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:25:06 -0700 > From: Prof Norm Coombs > Subject: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > To: "athen-athenpro.org" > Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080531172319.02312040@pop.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions of Acrobat will > put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. > My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat > Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? > > Norm > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:51:15 -0400 > From: Kathleen Cahill > Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > Message-ID: <4842C573.1090304@mit.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Norm; > > I have Acrobat Professional 8, which adds an extra menu item in > Microsoft Word to allow me to "Save as PDF". I checked the Adobe > website to see if Acrobat Standard 8 allows the same thing and they are > not clear about that: "Create Adobe PDF documents with one button ease > from Microsoft Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office applications, > including Access, Outlook, and Publisher, as well as Lotus Notes." But > they do not specifically mention MS Word. > > I would contact Adobe to clarify before making a purchase of Acrobat > Standard. > > Kathy Cahill > MIT ATIC (Adaptive Technology) Lab > >> I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions of Acrobat >> will >> put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. >> My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat >> Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? >> >> Norm >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 09:44:53 -0700 > From: "Terry Thompson" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > > Message-ID: <200806011644.m51GiuEA002071@smtp.washington.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Norm, Kathy, and all, > > The Adobe Acrobat family product comparison matrix at > http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html includes a feature > "Create > PDF documents from any application that prints, including one-button > creation from Microsoft Word, Excel, and PowerPoint". This feature is > available in Standard, Pro, and 3D versions. > > Terry > > Terry Thompson > Technology Accessibility Specialist > DO-IT, Accessible Technology > UW Technology Services > University of Washington > tft@u.washington.edu > 206/221-4168 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org >> [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill >> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:51 AM >> To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word >> >> Hi Norm; >> >> I have Acrobat Professional 8, which adds an extra menu item >> in Microsoft Word to allow me to "Save as PDF". I checked >> the Adobe website to see if Acrobat Standard 8 allows the >> same thing and they are not clear about that: "Create Adobe >> PDF documents with one button ease from Microsoft Internet >> Explorer and Microsoft Office applications, including Access, >> Outlook, and Publisher, as well as Lotus Notes." But they do >> not specifically mention MS Word. >> >> I would contact Adobe to clarify before making a purchase of >> Acrobat Standard. >> >> Kathy Cahill >> MIT ATIC (Adaptive Technology) Lab >> >> > I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions >> of Acrobat >> > will put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. >> > My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat >> > Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? >> > >> > Norm >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Athen mailing list >> > Athen@athenpro.org >> > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 29, Issue 1 > ************************************ > -- Saroj Primlani Coordinator of University IT Accessibility Office of Information Technology NC State Campus Box 7109 Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 Phone: 919-513-4087 Email: Saroj_Primlani@ncsu.edu http://www.ncsu.edu/it/access From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 10:28:22 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word In-Reply-To: <200806011644.m51GiuEA002071@smtp.washington.edu> References: <4842C573.1090304@mit.edu> <200806011644.m51GiuEA002071@smtp.washington.edu> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080602102815.0231b1b0@pop.gmail.com> Thanks Terry. Norm At 09:44 AM 6/1/2008, you wrote: >Hi Norm, Kathy, and all, > >The Adobe Acrobat family product comparison matrix at >http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html includes a feature "Create >PDF documents from any application that prints, including one-button >creation from Microsoft Word, Excel, and PowerPoint". This feature is >available in Standard, Pro, and 3D versions. > >Terry > >Terry Thompson >Technology Accessibility Specialist >DO-IT, Accessible Technology >UW Technology Services >University of Washington >tft@u.washington.edu >206/221-4168 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill > > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:51 AM > > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > > > > Hi Norm; > > > > I have Acrobat Professional 8, which adds an extra menu item > > in Microsoft Word to allow me to "Save as PDF". I checked > > the Adobe website to see if Acrobat Standard 8 allows the > > same thing and they are not clear about that: "Create Adobe > > PDF documents with one button ease from Microsoft Internet > > Explorer and Microsoft Office applications, including Access, > > Outlook, and Publisher, as well as Lotus Notes." But they do > > not specifically mention MS Word. > > > > I would contact Adobe to clarify before making a purchase of > > Acrobat Standard. > > > > Kathy Cahill > > MIT ATIC (Adaptive Technology) Lab > > > > > I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions > > of Acrobat > > > will put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. > > > My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat > > > Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? > > > > > > Norm > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Athen mailing list > > > Athen@athenpro.org > > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 10:56:46 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word In-Reply-To: <1348.24.40.128.28.1212355779.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu> References: <1348.24.40.128.28.1212355779.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080602105610.022f60a0@pop.gmail.com> Dear Saroj: That is great news about Word 2007. I checked and found that I can add it to the output file types. Norm At 02:29 PM 6/1/2008, you wrote: >Norm, >Word 7 does not require you to have Acrobat standard or professional. It >will allow you to save as PDF/XPS document and allows you to set options >for structured document tagged for accessibility. You can still install >Acrobat and it will also show up in the tool bar and when saving the >document. In Word 2003 you still need to have Acrobat installed. >Saroj > > >Send Athen mailing list submissions to > > athen@athenpro.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > athen-request@athenpro.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Question re Acrobat and Word (Prof Norm Coombs) > > 2. Re: Question re Acrobat and Word (Kathleen Cahill) > > 3. Re: Question re Acrobat and Word (Terry Thompson) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:25:06 -0700 > > From: Prof Norm Coombs > > Subject: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > > To: "athen-athenpro.org" > > Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080531172319.02312040@pop.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > > > I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions of Acrobat will > > put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. > > My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat > > Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? > > > > Norm > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:51:15 -0400 > > From: Kathleen Cahill > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > > > Message-ID: <4842C573.1090304@mit.edu> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Hi Norm; > > > > I have Acrobat Professional 8, which adds an extra menu item in > > Microsoft Word to allow me to "Save as PDF". I checked the Adobe > > website to see if Acrobat Standard 8 allows the same thing and they are > > not clear about that: "Create Adobe PDF documents with one button ease > > from Microsoft Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office applications, > > including Access, Outlook, and Publisher, as well as Lotus Notes." But > > they do not specifically mention MS Word. > > > > I would contact Adobe to clarify before making a purchase of Acrobat > > Standard. > > > > Kathy Cahill > > MIT ATIC (Adaptive Technology) Lab > > > >> I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions of Acrobat > >> will > >> put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. > >> My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat > >> Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? > >> > >> Norm > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Athen mailing list > >> Athen@athenpro.org > >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 09:44:53 -0700 > > From: "Terry Thompson" > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > > To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > > > > Message-ID: <200806011644.m51GiuEA002071@smtp.washington.edu> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Hi Norm, Kathy, and all, > > > > The Adobe Acrobat family product comparison matrix at > > http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html includes a feature > > "Create > > PDF documents from any application that prints, including one-button > > creation from Microsoft Word, Excel, and PowerPoint". This feature is > > available in Standard, Pro, and 3D versions. > > > > Terry > > > > Terry Thompson > > Technology Accessibility Specialist > > DO-IT, Accessible Technology > > UW Technology Services > > University of Washington > > tft@u.washington.edu > > 206/221-4168 > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > >> [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill > >> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:51 AM > >> To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > >> Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > >> > >> Hi Norm; > >> > >> I have Acrobat Professional 8, which adds an extra menu item > >> in Microsoft Word to allow me to "Save as PDF". I checked > >> the Adobe website to see if Acrobat Standard 8 allows the > >> same thing and they are not clear about that: "Create Adobe > >> PDF documents with one button ease from Microsoft Internet > >> Explorer and Microsoft Office applications, including Access, > >> Outlook, and Publisher, as well as Lotus Notes." But they do > >> not specifically mention MS Word. > >> > >> I would contact Adobe to clarify before making a purchase of > >> Acrobat Standard. > >> > >> Kathy Cahill > >> MIT ATIC (Adaptive Technology) Lab > >> > >> > I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions > >> of Acrobat > >> > will put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. > >> > My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat > >> > Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? > >> > > >> > Norm > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Athen mailing list > >> > Athen@athenpro.org > >> > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > >> > > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Athen mailing list > >> Athen@athenpro.org > >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 29, Issue 1 > > ************************************ > > > > >-- >Saroj Primlani >Coordinator of University IT Accessibility >Office of Information Technology >NC State Campus Box 7109 >Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 >Phone: 919-513-4087 > >Email: Saroj_Primlani@ncsu.edu >http://www.ncsu.edu/it/access > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 From Dave.M.Thomas at studentlife.du.edu Mon Jun 2 15:24:10 2008 From: Dave.M.Thomas at studentlife.du.edu (Dave M. Thomas) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Zoom Text Question Message-ID: Good afternoon! Are there file formats that Zoom text works better with (either with or without speech)? I have 2 books in PDF for a student and am wondering whether or not I ought to run them through a virtual print and save them as RTFs or something else. I've used Window-Eyes for years but never Zoom Text. Thank you for your comments. Dave Dave Thomas, Assistive Technology Specialist University of Denver Disability Services Program 2050 E. Evans Ave., Suite #30 Denver, CO 80208 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at kckcc.edu Tue Jun 3 05:22:40 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Zoom Text Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4844F140020000CF00014CB9@mymail.kckcc.edu> As far as the magnification side, it really shouldn't matter much what format the files are in as long as the student has the application to open them. For the voice side, you know from working with Window-Eyes that the files must have text behind the image or the voice will not have anything to work with. If they are image only PDFs and the student wants the voice and not just magnification, then you would be better off to convert to a text-based format such as Word, TXT, or RTF. HTH. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Dave M. Thomas" 6/2/2008 5:24 PM >>> Good afternoon! Are there file formats that Zoom text works better with (either with or without speech)? I have 2 books in PDF for a student and am wondering whether or not I ought to run them through a virtual print and save them as RTFs or something else. I've used Window-Eyes for years but never Zoom Text. Thank you for your comments. Dave Dave Thomas, Assistive Technology Specialist University of Denver Disability Services Program 2050 E. Evans Ave., Suite #30 Denver, CO 80208 From saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu Tue Jun 3 10:13:43 2008 From: saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu (Saroj Primlani) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001101c8c59d$2d7e7a20$cfc10798@sarojnewlaptop> Norm, Article on creating accessible PDFs from Word 2007 http://www.abilitynet.org.uk/webarticle87 Saroj _________________________________ Saroj Primlani Coordinator of University IT Accessibility Office of Information Technology 919 513 4087 http://ncsu.edu/it/access -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 3:00 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 29, Issue 2 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Question re Acrobat and Word (Saroj Primlani) 2. Re: Question re Acrobat and Word (Prof Norm Coombs) 3. Re: Question re Acrobat and Word (Prof Norm Coombs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 17:29:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Saroj Primlani" Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word To: athen@athenpro.org Message-ID: <1348.24.40.128.28.1212355779.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Norm, Word 7 does not require you to have Acrobat standard or professional. It will allow you to save as PDF/XPS document and allows you to set options for structured document tagged for accessibility. You can still install Acrobat and it will also show up in the tool bar and when saving the document. In Word 2003 you still need to have Acrobat installed. Saroj Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Question re Acrobat and Word (Prof Norm Coombs) > 2. Re: Question re Acrobat and Word (Kathleen Cahill) > 3. Re: Question re Acrobat and Word (Terry Thompson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:25:06 -0700 > From: Prof Norm Coombs > Subject: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > To: "athen-athenpro.org" > Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080531172319.02312040@pop.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions of Acrobat > will put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. > My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat > Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? > > Norm > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:51:15 -0400 > From: Kathleen Cahill > Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > Message-ID: <4842C573.1090304@mit.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Norm; > > I have Acrobat Professional 8, which adds an extra menu item in > Microsoft Word to allow me to "Save as PDF". I checked the Adobe > website to see if Acrobat Standard 8 allows the same thing and they > are not clear about that: "Create Adobe PDF documents with one button > ease from Microsoft Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office > applications, including Access, Outlook, and Publisher, as well as > Lotus Notes." But they do not specifically mention MS Word. > > I would contact Adobe to clarify before making a purchase of Acrobat > Standard. > > Kathy Cahill > MIT ATIC (Adaptive Technology) Lab > >> I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions of Acrobat >> will put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. >> My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat >> Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? >> >> Norm >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 09:44:53 -0700 > From: "Terry Thompson" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > > Message-ID: <200806011644.m51GiuEA002071@smtp.washington.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Norm, Kathy, and all, > > The Adobe Acrobat family product comparison matrix at > http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html includes a feature > "Create PDF documents from any application that prints, including > one-button creation from Microsoft Word, Excel, and PowerPoint". This > feature is available in Standard, Pro, and 3D versions. > > Terry > > Terry Thompson > Technology Accessibility Specialist > DO-IT, Accessible Technology > UW Technology Services > University of Washington > tft@u.washington.edu > 206/221-4168 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org >> [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill >> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:51 AM >> To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word >> >> Hi Norm; >> >> I have Acrobat Professional 8, which adds an extra menu item in >> Microsoft Word to allow me to "Save as PDF". I checked the Adobe >> website to see if Acrobat Standard 8 allows the same thing and they >> are not clear about that: "Create Adobe PDF documents with one >> button ease from Microsoft Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office >> applications, including Access, Outlook, and Publisher, as well as >> Lotus Notes." But they do not specifically mention MS Word. >> >> I would contact Adobe to clarify before making a purchase of Acrobat >> Standard. >> >> Kathy Cahill >> MIT ATIC (Adaptive Technology) Lab >> >> > I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions >> of Acrobat >> > will put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. >> > My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat >> > Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? >> > >> > Norm >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Athen mailing list >> > Athen@athenpro.org >> > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 29, Issue 1 > ************************************ > -- Saroj Primlani Coordinator of University IT Accessibility Office of Information Technology NC State Campus Box 7109 Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 Phone: 919-513-4087 Email: Saroj_Primlani@ncsu.edu http://www.ncsu.edu/it/access ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:28:22 -0700 From: Prof Norm Coombs Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word To: tft@u.washington.edu, Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080602102815.0231b1b0@pop.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Thanks Terry. Norm At 09:44 AM 6/1/2008, you wrote: >Hi Norm, Kathy, and all, > >The Adobe Acrobat family product comparison matrix at >http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html includes a feature >"Create PDF documents from any application that prints, including >one-button creation from Microsoft Word, Excel, and PowerPoint". This >feature is available in Standard, Pro, and 3D versions. > >Terry > >Terry Thompson >Technology Accessibility Specialist >DO-IT, Accessible Technology >UW Technology Services >University of Washington >tft@u.washington.edu >206/221-4168 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill > > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:51 AM > > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > > > > Hi Norm; > > > > I have Acrobat Professional 8, which adds an extra menu item in > > Microsoft Word to allow me to "Save as PDF". I checked the Adobe > > website to see if Acrobat Standard 8 allows the same thing and they > > are not clear about that: "Create Adobe PDF documents with one > > button ease from Microsoft Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office > > applications, including Access, Outlook, and Publisher, as well as > > Lotus Notes." But they do not specifically mention MS Word. > > > > I would contact Adobe to clarify before making a purchase of Acrobat > > Standard. > > > > Kathy Cahill > > MIT ATIC (Adaptive Technology) Lab > > > > > I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions > > of Acrobat > > > will put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. > > > My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat > > > Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? > > > > > > Norm > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Athen mailing list > > > Athen@athenpro.org > > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:56:46 -0700 From: Prof Norm Coombs Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080602105610.022f60a0@pop.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear Saroj: That is great news about Word 2007. I checked and found that I can add it to the output file types. Norm At 02:29 PM 6/1/2008, you wrote: >Norm, >Word 7 does not require you to have Acrobat standard or professional. >It will allow you to save as PDF/XPS document and allows you to set >options for structured document tagged for accessibility. You can >still install Acrobat and it will also show up in the tool bar and when >saving the document. In Word 2003 you still need to have Acrobat installed. >Saroj > > >Send Athen mailing list submissions to > > athen@athenpro.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > athen-request@athenpro.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Question re Acrobat and Word (Prof Norm Coombs) > > 2. Re: Question re Acrobat and Word (Kathleen Cahill) > > 3. Re: Question re Acrobat and Word (Terry Thompson) > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:25:06 -0700 > > From: Prof Norm Coombs > > Subject: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > > To: "athen-athenpro.org" > > Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080531172319.02312040@pop.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > > > I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions of > > Acrobat will put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. > > My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat > > Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? > > > > Norm > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:51:15 -0400 > > From: Kathleen Cahill > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > > > Message-ID: <4842C573.1090304@mit.edu> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Hi Norm; > > > > I have Acrobat Professional 8, which adds an extra menu item in > > Microsoft Word to allow me to "Save as PDF". I checked the Adobe > > website to see if Acrobat Standard 8 allows the same thing and they > > are not clear about that: "Create Adobe PDF documents with one > > button ease from Microsoft Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office > > applications, including Access, Outlook, and Publisher, as well as > > Lotus Notes." But they do not specifically mention MS Word. > > > > I would contact Adobe to clarify before making a purchase of Acrobat > > Standard. > > > > Kathy Cahill > > MIT ATIC (Adaptive Technology) Lab > > > >> I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions of > >> Acrobat will put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. > >> My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat > >> Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? > >> > >> Norm > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Athen mailing list > >> Athen@athenpro.org > >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 09:44:53 -0700 > > From: "Terry Thompson" > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > > To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > > > > Message-ID: <200806011644.m51GiuEA002071@smtp.washington.edu> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Hi Norm, Kathy, and all, > > > > The Adobe Acrobat family product comparison matrix at > > http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html includes a feature > > "Create PDF documents from any application that prints, including > > one-button creation from Microsoft Word, Excel, and PowerPoint". > > This feature is available in Standard, Pro, and 3D versions. > > > > Terry > > > > Terry Thompson > > Technology Accessibility Specialist > > DO-IT, Accessible Technology > > UW Technology Services > > University of Washington > > tft@u.washington.edu > > 206/221-4168 > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > >> [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill > >> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:51 AM > >> To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > >> Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word > >> > >> Hi Norm; > >> > >> I have Acrobat Professional 8, which adds an extra menu item in > >> Microsoft Word to allow me to "Save as PDF". I checked the Adobe > >> website to see if Acrobat Standard 8 allows the same thing and they > >> are not clear about that: "Create Adobe PDF documents with one > >> button ease from Microsoft Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office > >> applications, including Access, Outlook, and Publisher, as well as > >> Lotus Notes." But they do not specifically mention MS Word. > >> > >> I would contact Adobe to clarify before making a purchase of > >> Acrobat Standard. > >> > >> Kathy Cahill > >> MIT ATIC (Adaptive Technology) Lab > >> > >> > I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions > >> of Acrobat > >> > will put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. > >> > My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat > >> > Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? > >> > > >> > Norm > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Athen mailing list > >> > Athen@athenpro.org > >> > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > >> > > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Athen mailing list > >> Athen@athenpro.org > >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 29, Issue 1 > > ************************************ > > > > >-- >Saroj Primlani >Coordinator of University IT Accessibility Office of Information >Technology NC State Campus Box 7109 Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 >Phone: 919-513-4087 > >Email: Saroj_Primlani@ncsu.edu >http://www.ncsu.edu/it/access > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 29, Issue 2 ************************************ From jfoliot at stanford.edu Tue Jun 3 15:06:13 2008 From: jfoliot at stanford.edu (John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question about other institutions' central support for Drupal Message-ID: <011a01c8c5c6$0b634230$913142ab@stanford.edu> Hello Athenites, Any feedback most appreciated. Cheers! JF Marco Wise wrote: > Hello Drupallers, > > I was wondering if you know of any educational institutions that > support Drupal centrally? I think U of A and Oregon State support > Drupal centrally (according to a quick Google search), but there must > be others. > > Thanks, > > - marco ===================================== John Foliot Program Manager, Stanford Online Accessibility Program http://soap.stanford.edu Stanford University Tel: 650-862-4603 SOAP is a program directed by the Vice Provost for Student Affairs ===================================== From gdausch at notes.cc.sunysb.edu Wed Jun 4 05:52:16 2008 From: gdausch at notes.cc.sunysb.edu (gdausch@notes.cc.sunysb.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] flashlight and screenreader access Message-ID: Hello, Does anyone have experience using flashlight to create surveys with a screenreader. I am finding that there are unlabeled controls, I'm looking for any way to work around this issue. Thanks, Glenn Glenn Dausch Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Support Services 128 Educational Communications Center Stony Brook University Stony Brook, NY 11794-2662 631 632 6548 From skeegan at htctu.net Wed Jun 4 15:46:01 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [MAGPIE]WGBH/NCAM seeking Access Technology Manager Message-ID: <008601c8c694$c3f6a5c0$4be3f140$@net> For those interested in the world of strategic partnerships and accessibility, you may want to check out the opportunity at WGBH/NCAM. URL to the job announcement and contact information are available at the bottom of the message. Take care, Sean ******** Subject: [MAGPIE]WGBH/NCAM seeking Access Technology Manager WGBH's Carl and Ruth Shapiro Family National Center for Accessible Media (NCAM), a research and development organization and birthplace of MAGpie, CC for Flash, Motion Picture Access/MoPix Systems and more, is looking to grow our team. See a short description of the Access Technology Manger positon now open, below, and the link to the full job posting from wgbh.org at the end. The link will provide application (online or postal mail) details. The Access Technology Manager will become a member of NCAM's technical team, with primary responsibility to support our Strategic Partnership (SP) program. The Strategic Partners program analyzes, advises and shapes technical recommendations regarding accessibility for leading technology companies. The successful candidate will work directly with NCAM partner companies that develop rich media, convergent media, Internet content, software, hardware, and other technologies. In addition, the Access Technology Manager will help identify new funding sources for the Strategic Partners program, in concert with the Director of Strategic Partnerships and Director of NCAM. This position reports to the Director of the Strategic Partnerships. http://careers.wgbh.org/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Apply.woa/7/wo/LFXratYB2t03YqVD0V poSw/0.22.0.3.0 Contact Mary Watkins Director of Communications and Outreach Media Access Group at WGBH 617 300-3700 voice 617 300-2489 tty access.wgbh.org access@wgbh.org From tft at u.washington.edu Thu Jun 5 12:51:16 2008 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Word to PDF includes Word codes Message-ID: <200806051951.m55JpMtM010499@smtp.washington.edu> Has anyone encountered this before? I'm printing from Word 2003 to PDF. I've done this many many times, but today for the first time the PDF contains Word codes instead of text in places like page numbers and tables of contents. There's also a summary page added to the end of the PDF document - that too is new. It's doing this in all my documents, not just one. This seems to be an Acrobat Distiller issue because if I print to PDF through the File > Print menu, bypassing the Adobe PDFMaker plug-in, I get the same result. The new summary page tacked onto the end of the document makes me think this is a setting rather than a bug, but I can't find it. I even tried reinstalling Adobe Acrobat Professional 8, but the problem persists. Any hunches? Thanks, Terry Terry Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 From tft at u.washington.edu Thu Jun 5 13:58:44 2008 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Word to PDF includes Word codes In-Reply-To: <200806051951.m55JpMtM010499@smtp.washington.edu> Message-ID: <200806052058.m55Kwo3D025105@smtp.washington.edu> Just a quick follow-up: This appears to have been the result of updates that Microsoft rolled out recently for its Office suite. My Print Options dialog in Word now contains in its "Include With Document" section items like "Document Properties" (which attaches a summary page) and "Field Codes" (which displays codes instead of text). Both of these were checked by default, as was "Reverse print order", which conveniently arranges documents in reverse order with the title at the end. Thanks to those who contacted me off-list with suggestions! Terry > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 12:51 PM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Word to PDF includes Word codes > > Has anyone encountered this before? I'm printing from Word > 2003 to PDF. I've done this many many times, but today for > the first time the PDF contains Word codes instead of text in > places like page numbers and tables of contents. There's also > a summary page added to the end of the PDF document - that > too is new. It's doing this in all my documents, not just one. > > This seems to be an Acrobat Distiller issue because if I > print to PDF through the File > Print menu, bypassing the > Adobe PDFMaker plug-in, I get the same result. The new > summary page tacked onto the end of the document makes me > think this is a setting rather than a bug, but I can't find > it. I even tried reinstalling Adobe Acrobat Professional 8, > but the problem persists. > > Any hunches? > > Thanks, > Terry > > Terry Thompson > Technology Accessibility Specialist > DO-IT, Accessible Technology > UW Technology Services > University of Washington > tft@u.washington.edu > 206/221-4168 > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From fgsmith at vcu.edu Fri Jun 6 17:42:22 2008 From: fgsmith at vcu.edu (Frances G Smith/AC/VCU) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Frances G Smith/AC/VCU is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting Fri 06/06/2008 and will not return until Tue 06/10/2008. I will respond to your message when I return. From ron at ahead.org Tue Jun 10 12:39:25 2008 From: ron at ahead.org ('Ron Stewart') Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] DC AT Opening Message-ID: <011001c8cb31$b32ebd80$198c3880$@org> Hi all, hope you are enjoying the end of the school year! I was just notified that a non-profit in the DC area is in desperate need of an AT specialist who has a strong background in VI/B'ness. Contact me directly so that I can refer you on. Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart Vice President for Operations Dolphin Computer Access Inc. 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Direct: 609 803-2174 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Sales (toll free): 866 797-5921 Support: 866 797-5921 Fax: 609 799-0475 ron.stewart@dolphinusa.com http://www.dolphinusa.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Contact me directly so that I can refer you on. Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart Vice President for Operations Dolphin Computer Access Inc. 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Direct: 609 803-2174 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Sales (toll free): 866 797-5921 Support: 866 797-5921 Fax: 609 799-0475 ron.stewart@dolphinusa.com http://www.dolphinusa.com _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Tue Jun 10 18:15:04 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Present at ATIA & Accessing Higher Ground and Receive a $150 Discount at AHG Message-ID: <00e801c8cb60$966c7b90$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Dear ATHEN members: The ATIA (Assistive Technology Industry Association) call for papers has been open for a couple of weeks. The closing date for submissions is June 23, 2008. As you might remember from our 2007 & 2008 ATHEN meetings at CSUN, we agreed to collaborate with ATIA to develop their Post-Secondary track. This was in response to an invitation extended through Ron. As an incentive for ATIA participation, we're offering a $150 discount to the 2008 or 2009 AHG conference for anyone who presents at the 2008 AHG conference and also submits a proposal which is accepted for the ATIA conference (in the Post-Secondary track). The ATIA conference is January 28 - 31, 2009 at Caribe Royale All-Suites Resort and Convention Center, Orlando, Florida. Please contact me or Dan Comden danc@u.washington.edu if you have any questions about submissions or suggested topics. For more information on the ATIA 2009 Conference Call for Presentations visit www.atia.org . 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URL: From skeegan at htctu.net Wed Jun 11 13:05:51 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Google is looking for Accessibility engineers Message-ID: <000b01c8cbfe$8e098760$aa1c9620$@net> Job posting at Google for a software engineer focusing on accessibility. Mountain View is a nice place to live (although a bit hot this week). Take care, Sean -----Original Message----- Subject: Google is looking for Accessibility engineers Software Engineer, Accessibility - Mountain View Google is looking for talented, world-class Engineers to improve the accessibility of our cutting edge information technologies to those with disabilities. (Link to Job Information - http://tinyurl.com/4bsppn ) Software Engineer, Accessibility - Mountain View This position is based in Mountain View, CA. Google is looking for talented, world-class Engineers to improve the accessibility of our cutting edge information technologies to those with disabilities. Come join an exciting and stimulating environment where you can make your impact on the world. You will be involved in identifying accessibility issues and engineering solutions across a range of products: next-generation web sites like Google search and AdWords, rich internet (AJAX) applications like Gmail and Google Local, and client applications like Toolbar and Desktop Search. In addition, we are looking for Engineers who can act as accessibility advocates and promote the needs of Google's users with disabilities inside Google. Requirements: list of 7 items . BS, MS, or PhD in Computer Science or related technical degree required. . Demonstrated experience developing software to support accessibility standards (e.g., WAI, Section 508) and technologies (e.g., JAWS). . Strong HTML, CSS, JavaScript, and AJAX development skills. . Demonstrated expertise with C/C++ and/or Java programming. . User Interface design and usability knowledge a plus. . Ability to work well in cross-functional teams, including engineers, product managers, usability, and UI designers, and to evangelize approaches for building accessible products. . Excellent written and oral communication skills. list end Recent graduates: please attach an unofficial transcript along with your resume. To all recruitment agencies: Google does not accept agency resumes. Please do not forward resumes to our jobs alias, Google employees or any other company location. Google is not responsible for any fees related to unsolicited resumes. From dabrus at purdue.edu Thu Jun 12 11:04:19 2008 From: dabrus at purdue.edu (Brusnighan, Dean A.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS and dual-boot MAC Message-ID: <1E3DC2D62305E542B4F9CA6487E8730D068F6861@EXCH04.purdue.lcl> Does anyone have experience with running JAWS on a dual-boot MAC? A unit on campus is considering the purchase of a dual-boot MAC, but one of the machine's purposes will be to run JAWS to check accessibility of their web pages. If JAWS won't run properly on it, they will make a different purchase. Dean ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dean Brusnighan Information Technology at Purdue Young Hall 302 Wood Street West Lafayette, IN 47907-2108 Phone: 765-494-9082 dabrus@purdue.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at htctu.net Thu Jun 12 11:37:58 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS and dual-boot MAC In-Reply-To: <1E3DC2D62305E542B4F9CA6487E8730D068F6861@EXCH04.purdue.lcl> References: <1E3DC2D62305E542B4F9CA6487E8730D068F6861@EXCH04.purdue.lcl> Message-ID: <006501c8ccbb$7090af20$51b20d60$@net> > Does anyone have experience with running JAWS on a dual-boot MAC? Do you mean that you are running a virtual machine (like Parallels) or are you using Boot Camp to boot into the Windows environment? I have gotten JAWS 8 to run under Parallels on a dual-core Mac Pro with NVidia GeForce 7300 graphics card. Have not tried it with JAWS 9 yet or any other screen-readers lately. I believe there was a presentation at CSUN where the developer had Window-Eyes 6 running in Parallels, but I do not remember the details (it was the DoJo Javascript toolkit presentation). In any case, I am planning to give this all another shot later this month. JAWS throws up some error messages when you attempt to launch as it cannot find anything regarding the DCM (display chain management), but after clicking cancel it appears to function. I tried JAWS with various Windows programs (Office, Web browser, etc) and it seemed to do all fine. I always post the following caveat - while I was able to get JAWS to run in the Parallels environment, it is not possible to do this unless you are sighted. In other words, JAWS + Parallels does not equal access on a Mac for a blind user! I realize you mentioned that this would be for testing Web pages, but I have found the need to include this note as the conversation ends up going down the path of ...but I heard that "X Screen Reader" + Parallels/Windows on Mac hardware equals full accessibility (which is absolutely not the case). Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sean, did you notice any issues when running jaws under the virtual environment, I have heard that when running parallels/fusion one can lose the function of the virtual cursor on the web etc. Thanks, Glenn Glenn Dausch Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Support Services 128 Educational Communications Center Stony Brook University Stony Brook, NY 11794-2662 631 632 6548 From skeegan at htctu.net Fri Jun 13 08:59:45 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS and dual-boot MAC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48529971.8050203@htctu.net> > Sean, did you notice any issues when running jaws under > the virtual environment, I have heard that when running > parallels/fusion one can lose > the function of the virtual cursor on the web etc. I did not notice anything unusual or that seemed as if it was not working with the virtual cursor. Then again, I was not really focusing on that particular component so I may have missed something (only played with it for about 15-20 minutes). I was really focusing on how the screen-reader worked in the various Windows applications. I will put that on my "to-do" list and try it again. Take care, Sean From travis at travisroth.com Fri Jun 13 09:39:55 2008 From: travis at travisroth.com (Travis Roth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS and dual-boot MAC In-Reply-To: <48529971.8050203@htctu.net> References: <48529971.8050203@htctu.net> Message-ID: <003f01c8cd74$1c8640c0$5592c240$@com> Without a video intercept, the JAWS cursor functionality is affected. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 11:00 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and dual-boot MAC > Sean, did you notice any issues when running jaws under > the virtual environment, I have heard that when running > parallels/fusion one can lose > the function of the virtual cursor on the web etc. I did not notice anything unusual or that seemed as if it was not working with the virtual cursor. Then again, I was not really focusing on that particular component so I may have missed something (only played with it for about 15-20 minutes). I was really focusing on how the screen-reader worked in the various Windows applications. I will put that on my "to-do" list and try it again. Take care, Sean _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at ahead.org Sat Jun 14 05:43:54 2008 From: ron at ahead.org ('Ron Stewart') Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] EU Efforts Message-ID: <01d601c8ce1c$53a55750$faf005f0$@org> Good morning, for those of you who are interested in global efforts around IT accessibility you might find this report informative: http://g3ict.com/resource_center/g3ict_book_-_the_accessibility_imperative Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any suggestions on how to deal with this would be greatly appreciated, including the name of anyone higher up the food chain at Kurzweil that I can talk to. ? Thanks, James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu From skeegan at htctu.net Mon Jun 16 10:06:47 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Webinar on Making Surveys Accessible Message-ID: <000001c8cfd3$5cd485e0$167d91a0$@net> Free Webinar from the EASI group on Online Accessible Surveys. Webinar is at 2PM Eastern Time (that's 11AM for you West coast folks) on Tuesday, July 8. You can sign-up at: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm More information below. Take care, Sean -----Original Message----- Subject: Webinar on Making Surveys Accessible Webinar Snapshot: Making Accessible Online Surveys Tue. July 8 at 2 PM Presenter: Dick Banks Webinar Snapshots are free, short focused Webinars on specific topics limited to 20-30 minutes. If you register, you will get information on where and how to join the Webinar, and you will also get a link to the archive. Snapshot archives are only kept online for a couple months. Surveys and forms are a big part of Internet life. Users may choose to fill out a survey to help in a research project. Surveys are often created to help sellers determine what products may be of interest to customers. Visitors may want to answer questions in a poll and review the poll results to see how they match up with others. Surveys and polls can be detailed an complex and if they are not created with accessibility in mind, many with assistive technology are unable to participate. There are a number of online solutions to creating accessible forms, surveys and polls and they will be introduced to you in this Webinar snapshot. Many of us who are screen reader users have come across such interactive pages only to realize that the fields are not labeled correctly leaving us uncertain what information is wanted and unable to know which field is for which data. Yes. We know this was scheduled earlier this month and then cancelled. For those who wrote, we are proud to offer it now. From danc at washington.edu Mon Jun 16 11:19:14 2008 From: danc at washington.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Present at ATIA & Accessing Higher Ground and Receive a $150 Discount at AHG In-Reply-To: <00e801c8cb60$966c7b90$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> References: <00e801c8cb60$966c7b90$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: I enthusiastically encourage ATHEN members to submit a talk and attend this conference. Howard and I had a great time at ATIA in 2008 and look forward to seeing more higher education presentations next year. And the discount offer makes it that much better! -*- Dan Comden danc@washington.edu Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ University of Washington UW Technology Services On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Howard Kramer wrote: > Dear ATHEN members: > > > > The ATIA (Assistive Technology Industry Association) call for papers has > been open for a couple of weeks. The closing date for submissions is June > 23, 2008. As you might remember from our 2007 & 2008 ATHEN meetings at CSUN, > we agreed to collaborate with ATIA to develop their Post-Secondary track. > This was in response to an invitation extended through Ron. > > > > As an incentive for ATIA participation, we're offering a $150 discount to > the 2008 or 2009 AHG conference for anyone who presents at the 2008 AHG > conference and also submits a proposal which is accepted for the ATIA > conference (in the Post-Secondary track). The ATIA conference is January 28 > - 31, 2009 at Caribe Royale All-Suites Resort and Convention Center, > Orlando, Florida. > > > > Please contact me or Dan Comden danc@u.washington.edu if you have any > questions about submissions or suggested topics. For more information on the > ATIA 2009 Conference Call for Presentations visit www.atia.org > . > > > > > > Howard Kramer > Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator > AT Conference Coordinator > Disability Services > CU-Boulder, 107 UCB > Boulder, Co 80309 > 303-492-8672 > > > > From gdietrich at htctu.net Mon Jun 16 11:49:19 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Loss of one of our own Message-ID: <00ea01c8cfe1$b114a2d0$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Some of you in ATHEN knew Penny Peterson, AT Specialist at CSULB and CAPED SIG chair for the Access Technology group, so I wanted to share the sad news that Penny passed away last week from a stroke. It is always a bit of a shock to me when someone I have worked with or seen recently passes away. I feel a great sense of confusion before I even feel the loss-particularly in the case of someone like Penny who I was expecting to see very soon. My first thought tends to be, illogically, "But I just saw/spoke with/e-mailed her"-as if it's not possible that someone could pass away without notifying me first to prepare me! I know that Penny was full of plans and visions for the coming years-including retiring in the not too distant future. The suddenness of her death is a great reminder that the biggest unknown in all of our lives is the span of our days, and that amid all the to-do lists and hurry, we should always take time to appreciate those dear to us and to take time for what really matters to us in this moment, right now. I have included below the words of a couple other colleagues. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 With a heavy heart I regret to inform you that Penny Peterson, long time friend of students with disabilities and the CAPED Southern SIG Chair for AT, has suddenly passed away from a stroke. Lyn Clemons wrote a marvelous testimonial about Penny to a current colleague of hers, Jean Wells, that is appended in part below. Our condolences to Penny's family and friends in this difficult time. Details regarding arrangements will follow. Dr. Bob Hughlett From: Clemons, Lyn Hi Jean: ".....My name is Lyn Clemons, VP of Committees CAPED. In hearing the news about Penny and seeing your e-mail, I needed to let you know how grateful I am for you to think of her CAPED connections. Penny and I have worked together behind the scenes with the Assistive Technology CAPED Interest Group for it seems forever! She allowed us to have her assist in changing cultures of the organization and blending commonality across the California Post Secondary Education Systems. She took on the co-chair responsibilities modeling for the organization that two-year/four-year do have enough in common for both systems to benefit. The evidence of the power of networking and working across all of the systems is shown in how the Community College system took the risk with Section 508 and implementation AND how the Cal State system took what worked for us and improved on it (as seen via the trainings, implementations, web support). A major part was Penny's insistences supported by you (as CSULB) and the value of that need to do right by the student is reflected in the continuous improvement of the delivery of alternate formats at the CSU system. Penny shared across both systems TO DO RIGHT BY THE STUDENT. Yesterday during a staff training - one of our support staff that had worked for Penny reminded that we don't help students but in the words of Penny we DO RIGHT BY THE STUDENT. I can only imagine that you and Penny had to be recently collaborating on some universal access issue and compliance across the system. I appreciate your timely communication.... Lyn Clemons -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I feel a great sense of confusion before I even feel > the loss-particularly in the case of someone like Penny who I was expecting > to see very soon. My first thought tends to be, illogically, "But I just > saw/spoke with/e-mailed her"-as if it's not possible that someone could pass > away without notifying me first to prepare me! > > I know that Penny was full of plans and visions for the coming > years-including retiring in the not too distant future. The suddenness of > her death is a great reminder that the biggest unknown in all of our lives > is the span of our days, and that amid all the to-do lists and hurry, we > should always take time to appreciate those dear to us and to take time for > what really matters to us in this moment, right now. > > I have included below the words of a couple other colleagues. > > ****************************************************** > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > High Tech Center Training Unit of the > California Community Colleges > De Anza College, Cupertino, CA > www.htctu.net > 408-996-6043 > > With a heavy heart I regret to inform you that Penny Peterson, long time > friend of students with disabilities and the CAPED Southern SIG Chair for > AT, has suddenly passed away from a stroke. Lyn Clemons wrote a marvelous > testimonial about Penny to a current colleague of hers, Jean Wells, that is > appended in part below. > > Our condolences to Penny's family and friends in this difficult time. > > Details regarding arrangements will follow. > > Dr. Bob Hughlett > > > > From: Clemons, Lyn > > Hi Jean: > > ".....My name is Lyn Clemons, VP of Committees CAPED. In hearing the news > about Penny and seeing your e-mail, I needed to let you know how grateful I > am for you to think of her CAPED connections. > > Penny and I have worked together behind the scenes with the Assistive > Technology CAPED Interest Group for it seems forever! She allowed us to > have her assist in changing cultures of the organization and blending > commonality across the California Post Secondary Education Systems. She > took on the co-chair responsibilities modeling for the organization that > two-year/four-year do have enough in common for both systems to benefit. > The evidence of the power of networking and working across all of the > systems is shown in how the Community College system took the risk with > Section 508 and implementation AND how the Cal State system took what worked > for us and improved on it (as seen via the trainings, implementations, web > support). > > A major part was Penny's insistences supported by you (as CSULB) and the > value of that need to do right by the student is reflected in the continuous > improvement of the delivery of alternate formats at the CSU system. Penny > shared across both systems TO DO RIGHT BY THE STUDENT. Yesterday during a > staff training - one of our support staff that had worked for Penny reminded > that we don't help students but in the words of Penny we DO RIGHT BY THE > STUDENT. > > I can only imagine that you and Penny had to be recently collaborating on > some universal access issue and compliance across the system. I appreciate > your timely communication.... > > Lyn Clemons > > > > From jbailey at uoregon.edu Wed Jun 18 11:07:11 2008 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] simple program to ocr pdf Message-ID: <1213812431.523690.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> I am looking for a fairly ?thin? and transparent tool that will grab a picture-only pdf and create a searchable pdf. I know that this is a feature on several programs, but I am looking for something simple to use. We want to widely deploy this on our student workstations. Any recommendations? ? Thanks, James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu From accessible.text at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 14:03:52 2008 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] simple program to ocr pdf In-Reply-To: <1213812431.523690.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> References: <1213812431.523690.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <9edf8160806181403w7200f110w75171478a0426b2b@mail.gmail.com> Not sure about the cost, but this company looks promising: http://riverdocs.com/index.html On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:07 PM, James Bailey wrote: > I am looking for a fairly "thin" and transparent tool that will grab a picture-only pdf and create a searchable pdf. I know that this is a feature on several programs, but I am looking for something simple to use. We want to widely deploy this on our student workstations. Any recommendations? > > ? Thanks, James > -- > James Bailey > Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon > 1299 University of Oregon > Eugene, OR 97403-1299 > Office: 541-346-1076 > jbailey@uoregon.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From skeegan at htctu.net Wed Jun 18 14:37:05 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] SurveyMonkey and 508 Message-ID: <001901c8d18b$74ba12b0$5e2e3810$@net> It appears that SurveyMonkey (the online survey tool) has been "Section 508 Certified" by RampWEB Web accessibility consulting. Check out their online page at http://www.surveymonkey.com/HelpCenter/Answer.aspx?HelpID=247 . There are certainly some names associated with this announcement and I am curious if anyone has taken SurveyMonkey for a spin to see the functionality. Definitely on my to do list. (Thanks to Jayme for the heads-up) Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Web Accessibility Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Thu Jun 19 05:51:31 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] how do I go to no mail? Message-ID: I am going on medical leave for the next three weeks, starting tomorrow. How do I set this list to no mail while I am gone? Thanks! Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Connie Wiersma, Assistant Director Center for Students with Disabilities University of Wisconsin-Whitewater Whitewater, WI 53190 Ph. 262-472-5244 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 5:39 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Tablet PC's Hi all, I need someone who has recent experience with tablet PC's that is willing to chat with a new student with ABI that just returned from school. Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart Vice President for Operations Dolphin Computer Access Inc. 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Direct: 609 803-2174 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Sales (toll free): 866 797-5921 Support: 866 797-5921 Fax: 609 799-0475 ron.stewart@dolphinusa.com http://www.dolphinusa.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you do not know your password, you can press the "Remind" button and this will send your password to you. - Once you have logged into your subscription options, navigate down to the section marked "Mail Delivery". - Choose "Disabled" to stay subscribed to the list, but not receive any messages. - Alternatively, you can also set your status to "Digest Mode" (in the next section) and will receive approximately 1 message per day with all the messages. - Move to the bottom of the page and press the "Submit My Changes" button to retain your new settings. Remember to change your settings when you come back from vacation! Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Thu Jun 19 10:12:13 2008 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Info @ Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Tablet PC's In-Reply-To: <6A6DDE8A258FF94D86A95DC1898B909E0197FF8D@facmail3.uww.edu> References: <012b01c8b86e$d1b3e440$751bacc0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> <6A6DDE8A258FF94D86A95DC1898B909E0197FF8D@facmail3.uww.edu> Message-ID: <000e01c8d22f$9e2a3040$da7e90c0$@com> I also have a web page on how students with disabilities can take advantage of tablet technology. The page includes a book on how to use Microsoft OneNote from the keyboard. It is for OneNote 2003. There is also a document which is an overview of tablet technology. http://www.karlencommunications.com/tablet-technology.htm It might be a useful resource? Cheers, Karen From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wiersma, Constance A Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:09 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Tablet PC's Sorry, this is a late response-catching up after a busy academic year. We have been using Tablet PC's for in-class aides and note takers for classes where the information presented consists of formulas and diagrams, etc. We used two of the Tablet PC's this past year and have since ordered 2 more as they have worked out so well for us that we needed additional computers. You can certainly put the student in touch with me about this. Connie Wiersma, Assistant Director Center for Students with Disabilities University of Wisconsin-Whitewater Whitewater, WI 53190 Ph. 262-472-5244 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 5:39 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Tablet PC's Hi all, I need someone who has recent experience with tablet PC's that is willing to chat with a new student with ABI that just returned from school. Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart Vice President for Operations Dolphin Computer Access Inc. 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Direct: 609 803-2174 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Sales (toll free): 866 797-5921 Support: 866 797-5921 Fax: 609 799-0475 ron.stewart@dolphinusa.com http://www.dolphinusa.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Saroj _________________________________ Saroj Primlani Coordinator of University IT Accessibility Office of Information Technology 919 513 4087 http://ncsu.edu/it/access -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:14 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 29, Issue 15 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: simple program to ocr pdf (Robert Martinengo) 2. SurveyMonkey and 508 (Sean Keegan) 3. how do I go to no mail? (Kelmer, Susan M.) 4. Re: Tablet PC's (Wiersma, Constance A) 5. Re: how do I go to no mail? (Sean Keegan) 6. Re: Tablet PC's (Info @ Karlen Communications) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:03:52 -0400 From: "Robert Martinengo" Subject: Re: [Athen] simple program to ocr pdf To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: <9edf8160806181403w7200f110w75171478a0426b2b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Not sure about the cost, but this company looks promising: http://riverdocs.com/index.html On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:07 PM, James Bailey wrote: > I am looking for a fairly "thin" and transparent tool that will grab a picture-only pdf and create a searchable pdf. I know that this is a feature on several programs, but I am looking for something simple to use. We want to widely deploy this on our student workstations. Any recommendations? > > ? Thanks, James > -- > James Bailey > Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon > 1299 University of Oregon > Eugene, OR 97403-1299 > Office: 541-346-1076 > jbailey@uoregon.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:37:05 -0700 From: "Sean Keegan" Subject: [Athen] SurveyMonkey and 508 To: "'Alternate Media'" , "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" , "'Designing Accessible Web Pages'" Message-ID: <001901c8d18b$74ba12b0$5e2e3810$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It appears that SurveyMonkey (the online survey tool) has been "Section 508 Certified" by RampWEB Web accessibility consulting. Check out their online page at http://www.surveymonkey.com/HelpCenter/Answer.aspx?HelpID=247 . There are certainly some names associated with this announcement and I am curious if anyone has taken SurveyMonkey for a spin to see the functionality. Definitely on my to do list. (Thanks to Jayme for the heads-up) Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Web Accessibility Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:51:31 -0500 From: "Kelmer, Susan M." Subject: [Athen] how do I go to no mail? To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am going on medical leave for the next three weeks, starting tomorrow. How do I set this list to no mail while I am gone? Thanks! Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080619/429b8a ce/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:09:30 -0500 From: "Wiersma, Constance A" Subject: Re: [Athen] Tablet PC's To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: <6A6DDE8A258FF94D86A95DC1898B909E0197FF8D@facmail3.uww.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sorry, this is a late response-catching up after a busy academic year. We have been using Tablet PC's for in-class aides and note takers for classes where the information presented consists of formulas and diagrams, etc. We used two of the Tablet PC's this past year and have since ordered 2 more as they have worked out so well for us that we needed additional computers. You can certainly put the student in touch with me about this. Connie Wiersma, Assistant Director Center for Students with Disabilities University of Wisconsin-Whitewater Whitewater, WI 53190 Ph. 262-472-5244 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 5:39 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Tablet PC's Hi all, I need someone who has recent experience with tablet PC's that is willing to chat with a new student with ABI that just returned from school. Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart Vice President for Operations Dolphin Computer Access Inc. 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Direct: 609 803-2174 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Sales (toll free): 866 797-5921 Support: 866 797-5921 Fax: 609 799-0475 ron.stewart@dolphinusa.com http://www.dolphinusa.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080619/4b4538 a7/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:55:37 -0700 From: "Sean Keegan" Subject: Re: [Athen] how do I go to no mail? To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <000c01c8d22d$4cfa4310$e6eec930$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > How do I set this list to no mail while I am gone? For those going on vacation, holiday, walkabout, taking a leave of absence, (or just even taking a break from the world), here are some instructions to change your ATHEN E-mail list status. To receive no mail or set to Digest status: - Go to http://athenpro.org/mailman/options/athen_athenpro.org - Enter your e-mail address and password and then press the "Log In" button. If you do not know your password, you can press the "Remind" button and this will send your password to you. - Once you have logged into your subscription options, navigate down to the section marked "Mail Delivery". - Choose "Disabled" to stay subscribed to the list, but not receive any messages. - Alternatively, you can also set your status to "Digest Mode" (in the next section) and will receive approximately 1 message per day with all the messages. - Move to the bottom of the page and press the "Submit My Changes" button to retain your new settings. Remember to change your settings when you come back from vacation! Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080619/e7ac18 4c/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:12:13 -0400 From: "Info @ Karlen Communications" Subject: Re: [Athen] Tablet PC's To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <000e01c8d22f$9e2a3040$da7e90c0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I also have a web page on how students with disabilities can take advantage of tablet technology. The page includes a book on how to use Microsoft OneNote from the keyboard. It is for OneNote 2003. There is also a document which is an overview of tablet technology. http://www.karlencommunications.com/tablet-technology.htm It might be a useful resource? Cheers, Karen From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wiersma, Constance A Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:09 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Tablet PC's Sorry, this is a late response-catching up after a busy academic year. We have been using Tablet PC's for in-class aides and note takers for classes where the information presented consists of formulas and diagrams, etc. We used two of the Tablet PC's this past year and have since ordered 2 more as they have worked out so well for us that we needed additional computers. You can certainly put the student in touch with me about this. Connie Wiersma, Assistant Director Center for Students with Disabilities University of Wisconsin-Whitewater Whitewater, WI 53190 Ph. 262-472-5244 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 5:39 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Tablet PC's Hi all, I need someone who has recent experience with tablet PC's that is willing to chat with a new student with ABI that just returned from school. Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart Vice President for Operations Dolphin Computer Access Inc. 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Direct: 609 803-2174 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Sales (toll free): 866 797-5921 Support: 866 797-5921 Fax: 609 799-0475 ron.stewart@dolphinusa.com http://www.dolphinusa.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From burke at ucla.edu Thu Jun 19 14:43:55 2008 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] SurveyMonkey and 508 In-Reply-To: <001901c8d18b$74ba12b0$5e2e3810$@net> References: <001901c8d18b$74ba12b0$5e2e3810$@net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080619143901.0272cd88@ucla.edu> A quick check here shows very positive results. The new SurveyMonkey templates do in fact make a dramatic difference, esp. for screen reader navigation. The clearest improvement is the "On a scale of 1-5" type questions, which have always been difficult to navigate reliably. Now I can navigate through using either table navigation commands or the arrow keys to change radio button selection. Some duplicate/repetitive reading of labels, but overall good. Thanks for joining the party, SurveyMonkey! ... One potential downside: I didn't find any mention in the press release about the survey creation tool itself being 508 compliant. More research for next week. ... Patrick At 02:37 PM 6/18/2008, Sean Keegan wrote: >It appears that SurveyMonkey (the online survey tool) has been "Section 508 >Certified" by RampWEB Web accessibility consulting. Check out their online >page at http://www.surveymonkey.com/HelpCenter/Answer.aspx?HelpID=247 . > >There are certainly some names associated with this announcement and I am >curious if anyone has taken SurveyMonkey for a spin to see the >functionality. Definitely on my to do list. > >(Thanks to Jayme for the heads-up) > >Take care, >Sean -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke ucla. edu From hascherdss at gmail.com Fri Jun 20 08:58:01 2008 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Request for AT list Message-ID: <6e0d34c90806200858w2aa00480v89cc03550f27945e@mail.gmail.com> Hello all and happy Friday! Does anyone have a basic AT list regarding AT for individuals who are blind or have low vision. I'm needing a list and didn't want to recreate the wheel - so to speak - if someone already has such a list. Mucho thanks! Heidi --- Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Interim Assistant Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479-575-3104 (voice) 479-575-7445 (fax) 479-575-3646 (tdd) +++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Fri Jun 20 09:07:00 2008 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Dawn Hunziker) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] [Fwd: Dragon Naturally Speaking training problem] Message-ID: <485BD5A4.4040106@email.arizona.edu> Hi all, Any suggestions on this one? I'm thinking that DNS version 9 would be a better choice but thought someone may have run into something similar and has suggestions. Thanks!! Dawn -------- Original Message -------- Hi all, anyone have some experience with Dragon Naturally Speaking ver. 8? I just installed it for one of our scientists, who is an Israeli with a heavy accent. He can't get the software to understand him at all, the initial training wizard just keeps waiting for him to say something it can understand. The training wizard understands me just fine, so I think the software is ok. His English is good, I suspect the problem is that his words have a sibilant hiss due to the accent. Is there a more hard core training method in the software (rather than the initial wizard) that might help? Any other ideas? The only other thing I can think of is to try to have him pause between words, but the manual makes it sound like pauses can also cause problems. Thanks, Sheri -- Dawn Hunziker Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center 626-9409 Web Page: http://drc.arizona.edu hunziker@email.arizona.edu Mailing Address: Disability Resouce Center 1224 E. Lowell St. Tucson, AZ 85721 From kerri.hicks at gmail.com Fri Jun 20 09:34:29 2008 From: kerri.hicks at gmail.com (Kerri Hicks) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] [Fwd: Dragon Naturally Speaking training problem] In-Reply-To: <485BD5A4.4040106@email.arizona.edu> References: <485BD5A4.4040106@email.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <9879d07c0806200934r4f12944l469a6453297dc638@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Dawn Hunziker wrote: > Hi all, > > Any suggestions on this one? I'm thinking that DNS version 9 would be a > better choice but thought someone may have run into something similar > and has suggestions. It's my understanding that DNS 9.5 is much better with accents than previous versions. You also might enjoy this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHg5txXOOkY --Kerri From Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu Fri Jun 20 09:48:57 2008 From: Nick.Baker at mso.umt.edu (Baker, Nick) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] [Fwd: Dragon Naturally Speaking training problem] In-Reply-To: <485BD5A4.4040106@email.arizona.edu> References: <485BD5A4.4040106@email.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <42816E1795C8EB44B1676468392D0794D13C51@MUMMAILVS1.gs.umt.edu> Dawn-- Dragon recognizes phrases rather than individual words, so you are right--pausing between words is not a good solution. I have successfully trained Dragon users with some pretty heavy accents, so unless there is something in particular about his speech that confuses Dragon I think he will be able--with some work on his part--to get Dragon to be useful for him. I tell students, "You and Dragon will need to come to an agreement about how you will speak and how Dragon will interpret your speech." That said, here are some suggestions: 1. The less background noise, the easier it is for Dragon to separate speech from junk, and a consistent dictating environment also makes Dragon's job easier 2. Microphone placement, as described in the manual, is critical, and again, consistency produces the best results. 3. Version 9 Professional is significantly better than V8 Professional. 4, I have had consistently good results with the microphone included with the software, but you might try a higher quality microphone. 5. The more computer memory you have, the better Dragon will work. 6. Upgrading the computer sound card may help. 7. Higher processor speed (> 1.5 ghz) helps. 8. Laptops typically do not workas well a desktops. Nick Nick Baker Assistive Technology Coordinator nick.baker@umontana.edu 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) 406-243-2663 (Voice only) Disability Services for Students The University of Montana EL 154 32 Campus Drive Missoula, MT 59812 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Hunziker Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:07 AM To: ATHEN Subject: [Athen] [Fwd: Dragon Naturally Speaking training problem] Hi all, Any suggestions on this one? I'm thinking that DNS version 9 would be a better choice but thought someone may have run into something similar and has suggestions. Thanks!! Dawn -------- Original Message -------- Hi all, anyone have some experience with Dragon Naturally Speaking ver. 8? I just installed it for one of our scientists, who is an Israeli with a heavy accent. He can't get the software to understand him at all, the initial training wizard just keeps waiting for him to say something it can understand. The training wizard understands me just fine, so I think the software is ok. His English is good, I suspect the problem is that his words have a sibilant hiss due to the accent. Is there a more hard core training method in the software (rather than the initial wizard) that might help? Any other ideas? The only other thing I can think of is to try to have him pause between words, but the manual makes it sound like pauses can also cause problems. Thanks, Sheri -- Dawn Hunziker Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center 626-9409 Web Page: http://drc.arizona.edu hunziker@email.arizona.edu Mailing Address: Disability Resouce Center 1224 E. Lowell St. Tucson, AZ 85721 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From edward at ngtvoice.com Fri Jun 20 10:07:17 2008 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] [Fwd: Dragon Naturally Speaking training problem] In-Reply-To: <42816E1795C8EB44B1676468392D0794D13C51@MUMMAILVS1.gs.umt.edu> References: <485BD5A4.4040106@email.arizona.edu> <42816E1795C8EB44B1676468392D0794D13C51@MUMMAILVS1.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: <004501c8d2f8$1a02c290$4e0847b0$@com> If you can have him try Dragon 9 you can set it to skip the initial training on the first screen of the New User Wizard. This would allow him to calibrate the microphone and then start using the speech to text engine. You might find that it isn't "accurate enough", however it would get him to the point where he can at least test the speech to text recognition. Also, don't overlook the fact that you can create a miniature language model by using the Add Words from Documents in the Accuracy Center to try to improve the recognition accuracy if he is speaking about technical topics. -ed. Edward S. Rosenthal, President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies Inc. 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, WA 98036 Phone: 425-744-1100 extension 15; Fax: 425-778-5547 E-Mail: edward@ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 WWW: http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document was generated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking ver. 9 speech recognition technology with the revolutionary x-Tag wireless microphone from revolabs. Please disregard any remaining misrecognitions. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Baker, Nick Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:49 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [Fwd: Dragon Naturally Speaking training problem] Dawn-- Dragon recognizes phrases rather than individual words, so you are right--pausing between words is not a good solution. I have successfully trained Dragon users with some pretty heavy accents, so unless there is something in particular about his speech that confuses Dragon I think he will be able--with some work on his part--to get Dragon to be useful for him. I tell students, "You and Dragon will need to come to an agreement about how you will speak and how Dragon will interpret your speech." That said, here are some suggestions: 1. The less background noise, the easier it is for Dragon to separate speech from junk, and a consistent dictating environment also makes Dragon's job easier 2. Microphone placement, as described in the manual, is critical, and again, consistency produces the best results. 3. Version 9 Professional is significantly better than V8 Professional. 4, I have had consistently good results with the microphone included with the software, but you might try a higher quality microphone. 5. The more computer memory you have, the better Dragon will work. 6. Upgrading the computer sound card may help. 7. Higher processor speed (> 1.5 ghz) helps. 8. Laptops typically do not workas well a desktops. Nick Nick Baker Assistive Technology Coordinator nick.baker@umontana.edu 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) 406-243-2663 (Voice only) Disability Services for Students The University of Montana EL 154 32 Campus Drive Missoula, MT 59812 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Hunziker Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:07 AM To: ATHEN Subject: [Athen] [Fwd: Dragon Naturally Speaking training problem] Hi all, Any suggestions on this one? I'm thinking that DNS version 9 would be a better choice but thought someone may have run into something similar and has suggestions. Thanks!! Dawn -------- Original Message -------- Hi all, anyone have some experience with Dragon Naturally Speaking ver. 8? I just installed it for one of our scientists, who is an Israeli with a heavy accent. He can't get the software to understand him at all, the initial training wizard just keeps waiting for him to say something it can understand. The training wizard understands me just fine, so I think the software is ok. His English is good, I suspect the problem is that his words have a sibilant hiss due to the accent. Is there a more hard core training method in the software (rather than the initial wizard) that might help? Any other ideas? The only other thing I can think of is to try to have him pause between words, but the manual makes it sound like pauses can also cause problems. Thanks, Sheri -- Dawn Hunziker Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center 626-9409 Web Page: http://drc.arizona.edu hunziker@email.arizona.edu Mailing Address: Disability Resouce Center 1224 E. Lowell St. Tucson, AZ 85721 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From JElmer at vcccd.edu Fri Jun 20 10:25:06 2008 From: JElmer at vcccd.edu (John Elmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Request for AT list In-Reply-To: <6e0d34c90806200858w2aa00480v89cc03550f27945e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You're going to need speech output and also enlargement. We have: A large screen monitor A CCTV system JAWS Kurzweil 1000 Open Book ZoomText Some schools use SuperNova as well, or instead of some of these programs. Good program, also. If you are needing to get started for one particular individual, check to see what that person has skills in using, since each of these has a learning curve (some more steep than others.) John F. Elmer Alternate Media Specialist Ventura College Educational Assistance Center (DSP&S) 4667 Telegraph Road Ventura, CA 93003 805.654.6400, x1278 "Heidi Scher" Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org 06/20/2008 09:00 AM Please respond to Access Technologists in Higher Education Network To "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" cc Subject [Athen] Request for AT list Hello all and happy Friday! Does anyone have a basic AT list regarding AT for individuals who are blind or have low vision. I'm needing a list and didn't want to recreate the wheel - so to speak - if someone already has such a list. Mucho thanks! Heidi --- Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Interim Assistant Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479-575-3104 (voice) 479-575-7445 (fax) 479-575-3646 (tdd) +++++++++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Fri Jun 20 11:32:47 2008 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Request for AT list In-Reply-To: References: <6e0d34c90806200858w2aa00480v89cc03550f27945e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e0d34c90806201132w18780768g9e204cd70d91a2ea@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, John! I should have said that I'm looking for a general AT resource list for individuals to know what alternatives exist rather than just one of each type of item. For example, screen magnification programs include ZoomText, Magic, Supernova, Lunar, Big Shot. Screenreaders include: HAL, JAWS, and Window Eyes. Just figured there's someone who's already come up with a list and hoping they would share. It's for a presentation to a group of parents of students in K-12 and what type of AT might be used in college (or on their way to college). Thanks to all! Heidi On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:25 PM, John Elmer wrote: > > You're going to need speech output and also enlargement. > > We have: > > A large screen monitor > A CCTV system > JAWS > Kurzweil 1000 > Open Book > ZoomText > > Some schools use SuperNova as well, or instead of some of these programs. > Good program, also. > > If you are needing to get started for one particular individual, check to > see what that person has skills in using, since each of these has a learning > curve (some more steep than others.) > > John F. Elmer > Alternate Media Specialist > Ventura College > Educational Assistance Center (DSP&S) > 4667 Telegraph Road > Ventura, CA 93003 > 805.654.6400, x1278 > > > *"Heidi Scher" * > Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > > 06/20/2008 09:00 AM > Please respond to > Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > To > "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" > cc > Subject > [Athen] Request for AT list > > > > > Hello all and happy Friday! > > Does anyone have a basic AT list regarding AT for individuals who are blind > or have low vision. I'm needing a list and didn't want to recreate the > wheel - so to speak - if someone already has such a list. > > Mucho thanks! > > Heidi > > --- > > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Interim Assistant Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479-575-3104 (voice) > 479-575-7445 (fax) > 479-575-3646 (tdd)* > * > > +++++++++++++++++++++ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dina.rosenbaum at carroll.org Fri Jun 20 11:53:09 2008 From: dina.rosenbaum at carroll.org (Dina Rosenbaum) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Request for AT list In-Reply-To: <6e0d34c90806201132w18780768g9e204cd70d91a2ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e0d34c90806200858w2aa00480v89cc03550f27945e@mail.gmail.com> <6e0d34c90806201132w18780768g9e204cd70d91a2ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <485BFC95.8060803@carroll.org> AFB has a great powerpoint on AT that I have used in the past, but it does include everything including low vision devices, and low tech. You can go to AFB.org, search for assistive technology Heidi Scher wrote: > Thanks, John! > > I should have said that I'm looking for a general AT resource list for > individuals to know what alternatives exist rather than just one of > each type of item. For example, screen magnification programs include > ZoomText, Magic, Supernova, Lunar, Big Shot. Screenreaders include: > HAL, JAWS, and Window Eyes. Just figured there's someone who's > already come up with a list and hoping they would share. It's for a > presentation to a group of parents of students in K-12 and what type > of AT might be used in college (or on their way to college). > > Thanks to all! > > Heidi > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:25 PM, John Elmer > wrote: > > > You're going to need speech output and also enlargement. > > We have: > > A large screen monitor > A CCTV system > JAWS > Kurzweil 1000 > Open Book > ZoomText > > Some schools use SuperNova as well, or instead of some of these > programs. Good program, also. > > If you are needing to get started for one particular individual, > check to see what that person has skills in using, since each of > these has a learning curve (some more steep than others.) > > John F. Elmer > Alternate Media Specialist > Ventura College > Educational Assistance Center (DSP&S) > 4667 Telegraph Road > Ventura, CA 93003 > 805.654.6400, x1278 > > > *"Heidi Scher" >* > Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > > > 06/20/2008 09:00 AM > > Please respond to > Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > > > > > To > "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" > > > cc > > Subject > [Athen] Request for AT list > > > > > > > > > > Hello all and happy Friday! > > Does anyone have a basic AT list regarding AT for individuals who > are blind or have low vision. I'm needing a list and didn't want > to recreate the wheel - so to speak - if someone already has such > a list. > > Mucho thanks! > > Heidi > > --- > > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Interim Assistant Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479-575-3104 (voice) > 479-575-7445 (fax) > 479-575-3646 (tdd)_ > _ > > +++++++++++++++++++++ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -- Dina Rosenbaum Carroll Center for the BLind 770 Centre St, Newton, MA 02459 800-852-3131 www.carroll.org www.carrolltech.org From maryz at MIT.EDU Fri Jun 20 12:02:38 2008 From: maryz at MIT.EDU (Mary J. Ziegler) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Request for AT list References: <6e0d34c90806200858w2aa00480v89cc03550f27945e@mail.gmail.com> <6e0d34c90806201132w18780768g9e204cd70d91a2ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <04ba01c8d308$36c6b390$e8017112@mit.edu> For low vision/blindness products, I find the AT lists published by AFB helpful and comprehensive. Here are direct links to their magnification/screen reader pages: Screen Magnification Systems http://www.afb.org/ProdBrowseCatResults.asp?CatID=39 Screen Reader http://www.afb.org/ProdBrowseCatResults.asp?CatID=49 Hope this helps! Mary -- Mary J. Ziegler Team Leader, Adaptive Technology Services MIT Information Services and Technology (IS&T) ATIC Lab Room 7-143 617-258-9328 maryz@mit.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: Heidi Scher To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Athen] Request for AT list Thanks, John! I should have said that I'm looking for a general AT resource list for individuals to know what alternatives exist rather than just one of each type of item. For example, screen magnification programs include ZoomText, Magic, Supernova, Lunar, Big Shot. Screenreaders include: HAL, JAWS, and Window Eyes. Just figured there's someone who's already come up with a list and hoping they would share. It's for a presentation to a group of parents of students in K-12 and what type of AT might be used in college (or on their way to college). Thanks to all! Heidi On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:25 PM, John Elmer wrote: You're going to need speech output and also enlargement. We have: A large screen monitor A CCTV system JAWS Kurzweil 1000 Open Book ZoomText Some schools use SuperNova as well, or instead of some of these programs. Good program, also. If you are needing to get started for one particular individual, check to see what that person has skills in using, since each of these has a learning curve (some more steep than others.) John F. Elmer Alternate Media Specialist Ventura College Educational Assistance Center (DSP&S) 4667 Telegraph Road Ventura, CA 93003 805.654.6400, x1278 "Heidi Scher" Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org 06/20/2008 09:00 AM Please respond to Access Technologists in Higher Education Network To"Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" cc Subject[Athen] Request for AT list Hello all and happy Friday! Does anyone have a basic AT list regarding AT for individuals who are blind or have low vision. I'm needing a list and didn't want to recreate the wheel - so to speak - if someone already has such a list. Mucho thanks! Heidi --- Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Interim Assistant Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479-575-3104 (voice) 479-575-7445 (fax) 479-575-3646 (tdd) +++++++++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From dhayman at u.washington.edu Fri Jun 20 12:11:08 2008 From: dhayman at u.washington.edu (Doug Hayman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Request for AT list In-Reply-To: <485BFC95.8060803@carroll.org> References: <6e0d34c90806200858w2aa00480v89cc03550f27945e@mail.gmail.com> <6e0d34c90806201132w18780768g9e204cd70d91a2ea@mail.gmail.com> <485BFC95.8060803@carroll.org> Message-ID: We've got this list: http://www.washington.edu/doit/Brochures/Technology/tech.html as well as a number of publications and videos those parents would find useful. Doug Hayman Technology Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 355670 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Dina Rosenbaum wrote: > AFB has a great powerpoint on AT that I have used in the past, but it > does include everything including low vision devices, and low tech. You > can go to AFB.org, search for assistive technology > > Heidi Scher wrote: >> Thanks, John! >> >> I should have said that I'm looking for a general AT resource list for >> individuals to know what alternatives exist rather than just one of >> each type of item. For example, screen magnification programs include >> ZoomText, Magic, Supernova, Lunar, Big Shot. Screenreaders include: >> HAL, JAWS, and Window Eyes. Just figured there's someone who's >> already come up with a list and hoping they would share. It's for a >> presentation to a group of parents of students in K-12 and what type >> of AT might be used in college (or on their way to college). >> >> Thanks to all! >> >> Heidi >> >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:25 PM, John Elmer > > wrote: >> >> >> You're going to need speech output and also enlargement. >> >> We have: >> >> A large screen monitor >> A CCTV system >> JAWS >> Kurzweil 1000 >> Open Book >> ZoomText >> >> Some schools use SuperNova as well, or instead of some of these >> programs. Good program, also. >> >> If you are needing to get started for one particular individual, >> check to see what that person has skills in using, since each of >> these has a learning curve (some more steep than others.) >> >> John F. Elmer >> Alternate Media Specialist >> Ventura College >> Educational Assistance Center (DSP&S) >> 4667 Telegraph Road >> Ventura, CA 93003 >> 805.654.6400, x1278 >> >> >> *"Heidi Scher" >* >> Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org >> >> >> 06/20/2008 09:00 AM >> >> Please respond to >> Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> > >> >> >> >> To >> "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" >> > >> cc >> >> Subject >> [Athen] Request for AT list >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello all and happy Friday! >> >> Does anyone have a basic AT list regarding AT for individuals who >> are blind or have low vision. I'm needing a list and didn't want >> to recreate the wheel - so to speak - if someone already has such >> a list. >> >> Mucho thanks! >> >> Heidi >> >> --- >> >> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC >> Interim Assistant Director >> Center for Educational Access >> University of Arkansas >> ARKU 104 >> Fayetteville, AR 72701 >> 479-575-3104 (voice) >> 479-575-7445 (fax) >> 479-575-3646 (tdd)_ >> _ >> >> +++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > -- > Dina Rosenbaum > Carroll Center for the BLind > 770 Centre St, Newton, MA 02459 > 800-852-3131 > www.carroll.org > www.carrolltech.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From gdietrich at htctu.net Fri Jun 20 12:53:17 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Request for AT list In-Reply-To: <6e0d34c90806201132w18780768g9e204cd70d91a2ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e0d34c90806200858w2aa00480v89cc03550f27945e@mail.gmail.com> <6e0d34c90806201132w18780768g9e204cd70d91a2ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005601c8d30f$49317f90$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Here's a partial list, but it's not complete: http://htctu.net/divisions/act/recommend/equiplist.htm#screenread ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:33 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Request for AT list Thanks, John! I should have said that I'm looking for a general AT resource list for individuals to know what alternatives exist rather than just one of each type of item. For example, screen magnification programs include ZoomText, Magic, Supernova, Lunar, Big Shot. Screenreaders include: HAL, JAWS, and Window Eyes. Just figured there's someone who's already come up with a list and hoping they would share. It's for a presentation to a group of parents of students in K-12 and what type of AT might be used in college (or on their way to college). Thanks to all! Heidi On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:25 PM, John Elmer wrote: You're going to need speech output and also enlargement. We have: A large screen monitor A CCTV system JAWS Kurzweil 1000 Open Book ZoomText Some schools use SuperNova as well, or instead of some of these programs. Good program, also. If you are needing to get started for one particular individual, check to see what that person has skills in using, since each of these has a learning curve (some more steep than others.) John F. Elmer Alternate Media Specialist Ventura College Educational Assistance Center (DSP&S) 4667 Telegraph Road Ventura, CA 93003 805.654.6400, x1278 "Heidi Scher" Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org 06/20/2008 09:00 AM Please respond to Access Technologists in Higher Education Network To "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" cc Subject [Athen] Request for AT list Hello all and happy Friday! Does anyone have a basic AT list regarding AT for individuals who are blind or have low vision. I'm needing a list and didn't want to recreate the wheel - so to speak - if someone already has such a list. Mucho thanks! Heidi --- Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Interim Assistant Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479-575-3104 (voice) 479-575-7445 (fax) 479-575-3646 (tdd) +++++++++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Heidi On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Gaeir Dietrich wrote: > Here's a partial list, but it's not complete: > > > > http://htctu.net/divisions/act/recommend/equiplist.htm#screenread > > > > ****************************************************** > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > High Tech Center Training Unit of the > California Community Colleges > De Anza College, Cupertino, CA > www.htctu.net > 408-996-6043 > ------------------------------ > > *From:* athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] *On > Behalf Of *Heidi Scher > *Sent:* Friday, June 20, 2008 11:33 AM > *To:* Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Request for AT list > > > > Thanks, John! > > I should have said that I'm looking for a general AT resource list for > individuals to know what alternatives exist rather than just one of each > type of item. For example, screen magnification programs include ZoomText, > Magic, Supernova, Lunar, Big Shot. Screenreaders include: HAL, JAWS, and > Window Eyes. Just figured there's someone who's already come up with a list > and hoping they would share. It's for a presentation to a group of parents > of students in K-12 and what type of AT might be used in college (or on > their way to college). > > Thanks to all! > > Heidi > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:25 PM, John Elmer wrote: > > > You're going to need speech output and also enlargement. > > We have: > > A large screen monitor > A CCTV system > JAWS > Kurzweil 1000 > Open Book > ZoomText > > Some schools use SuperNova as well, or instead of some of these programs. > Good program, also. > > If you are needing to get started for one particular individual, check to > see what that person has skills in using, since each of these has a learning > curve (some more steep than others.) > > John F. Elmer > Alternate Media Specialist > Ventura College > Educational Assistance Center (DSP&S) > 4667 Telegraph Road > Ventura, CA 93003 > 805.654.6400, x1278 > > *"Heidi Scher" * > Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > > 06/20/2008 09:00 AM > > Please respond to > Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > To > > "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" > > cc > > > > Subject > > [Athen] Request for AT list > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all and happy Friday! > > Does anyone have a basic AT list regarding AT for individuals who are blind > or have low vision. I'm needing a list and didn't want to recreate the > wheel - so to speak - if someone already has such a list. > > Mucho thanks! > > Heidi > > --- > > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Interim Assistant Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479-575-3104 (voice) > 479-575-7445 (fax) > 479-575-3646 (tdd)* > * > > +++++++++++++++++++++ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marks at mso.umt.edu Fri Jun 20 15:59:23 2008 From: marks at mso.umt.edu (Marks, Jim) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Request for AT list In-Reply-To: <6e0d34c90806201132w18780768g9e204cd70d91a2ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e0d34c90806200858w2aa00480v89cc03550f27945e@mail.gmail.com> <6e0d34c90806201132w18780768g9e204cd70d91a2ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7ACA3F1B@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Check out the National Center for Braille and Technology, which is part of the National Federation of the Blind, at http://www.nfb.org/. ----- Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/disability ----- ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:33 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Request for AT list Thanks, John! I should have said that I'm looking for a general AT resource list for individuals to know what alternatives exist rather than just one of each type of item. For example, screen magnification programs include ZoomText, Magic, Supernova, Lunar, Big Shot. Screenreaders include: HAL, JAWS, and Window Eyes. Just figured there's someone who's already come up with a list and hoping they would share. It's for a presentation to a group of parents of students in K-12 and what type of AT might be used in college (or on their way to college). Thanks to all! Heidi On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:25 PM, John Elmer wrote: You're going to need speech output and also enlargement. We have: A large screen monitor A CCTV system JAWS Kurzweil 1000 Open Book ZoomText Some schools use SuperNova as well, or instead of some of these programs. Good program, also. If you are needing to get started for one particular individual, check to see what that person has skills in using, since each of these has a learning curve (some more steep than others.) John F. Elmer Alternate Media Specialist Ventura College Educational Assistance Center (DSP&S) 4667 Telegraph Road Ventura, CA 93003 805.654.6400, x1278 "Heidi Scher" Sent by: athen-bounces@athenpro.org 06/20/2008 09:00 AM Please respond to Access Technologists in Higher Education Network To "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" cc Subject [Athen] Request for AT list Hello all and happy Friday! Does anyone have a basic AT list regarding AT for individuals who are blind or have low vision. I'm needing a list and didn't want to recreate the wheel - so to speak - if someone already has such a list. Mucho thanks! 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URL: From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Sun Jun 22 16:44:44 2008 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT-ATEC Lab Manager Message-ID: <002501c8d4c1$f8f48450$eadd8cf0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Might be worth a look Ron Please note the available position at the University of Texas at Austin: Assistive Technology Lab Manager Details may be found at this link: http://utdirect.utexas.edu/pnjobs/pnjobsvw.WBX?job_nbr=08-06-17-01-3039 Thanks, Krista Schutz-Hampton Director Services for Students with Disabilities University of Texas at Austin 512-471-6259 khampton@mail.utexas.edu This list is intended to serve as a forum for higher education professionals involved in the delivery of services to students with disabilities in higher education. Any commercial posts or posts that are deemed by the listowner to be inappropriate for the list will result in the poster being removed from the list. To sign off the list, send a message to * listserv@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu * with the message * Unsubscribe dsshe-L To search the archives, go to http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/archives/dsshe-l.html Questions? Contact Listowner Dan Ryan at dryan@buffalo.edu From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Sun Jun 22 16:44:44 2008 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Position Announcement Message-ID: <002401c8d4c1$f8760580$e9621080$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Anyone want to work in Philly? You will get to work with this crazy Irish friend of mine. Ron Assistive Technology Position Available at Temple University Reporting to the Director of Disability Resources, the Coordinator of Student Services (Assistive Technology) is responsible for the provision of information, assessment, and training on Assistive Technology (AT). This position plans, leads, and implements University-wide projects that promote and enable greater use of AT. Responsible for the acquisition and management of AT related grants. Designs and delivers University-wide AT training/awareness programs as well as individualized guidance and expertise on AT resources and facilities. Responsible for the website design and content for the Department of Disability Resources. Performs other duties as assigned. Requirements Required Education and Experience: Master's degree. Two or more years of experience in the field of Assistive Technology. CSUN ATACP certification and/or similar certification in Assistive Technology. An equivalent combination of education and experience may be considered. Required Skills and Abilities: *Comprehensive knowledge of Assistive Technology and its' utilization for University students with a disability. *Direct experience installing, maintaining, and updating assistive technology applications. *Demonstrated ability to train users in AT applications in individual and group settings. *Ability to acquire and manage department grants related to AT. *Ability to manage projects, complete tasks with various deadlines, and work in cross-departmental environment. *Strong written, verbal, and interpersonal communications skills. Please apply to Requisition # TU-11376. Application Information Contact: Human Resources Department Temple University Online App. Form: https://hospats.adminsvc.temple.edu/jobs.htm J. Brian Seidel Student Services Coordinator Disability Resources & Services 100 Ritter Annex 1301 Cecil B. Moore Ave. Philadelphia, PA 19122 Phone: 215 204-1280 FAX: 215 204-6794 E-Mail: brian.seidel@temple.edu www.temple.edu/disability This list is intended to serve as a forum for higher education professionals involved in the delivery of services to students with disabilities in higher education. Any commercial posts or posts that are deemed by the listowner to be inappropriate for the list will result in the poster being removed from the list. To sign off the list, send a message to * listserv@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu * with the message * Unsubscribe dsshe-L To search the archives, go to http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/archives/dsshe-l.html Questions? Contact Listowner Dan Ryan at dryan@buffalo.edu From fgsmith at vcu.edu Mon Jun 23 13:02:34 2008 From: fgsmith at vcu.edu (Frances G Smith/AC/VCU) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Frances G Smith/AC/VCU is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting Fri 06/20/2008 and will not return until Mon 06/30/2008. I will respond to your message when I return. From skeegan at htctu.net Mon Jun 23 13:54:43 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Survey on Access Technology Perspectives Message-ID: <005601c8d573$5d42bfb0$17c83f10$@net> Hello all, Please excuse the cross-posting - for those interested, there is a survey being conducted for an article in ATHEN gathering perspectives and perceptions on the access technology field. Please see the summary below for more information and a link to the survey. Take care, Sean ******** Survey link: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=9fmhCKQK7Nv7hYlQqHWumQ_3d_3d The following survey is to collect data on your perceptions and experiences in the field of access technology. Your responses and feedback is appreciated. The results will be used for research in a Master's degree program in Instructional Technology as well as an article in the ATHEN E-Journal. Results will be posted at the ATHEN website (http://www.athenpro.org) . Please forward this survey to others who work in the field of access technology. Thank you for your time. From ron at ahead.org Tue Jun 24 11:59:04 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: NEW HIRE: Alternative Media Access Center's (AMAC) Production Unit Manager Message-ID: <015901c8d62c$5fca55e0$1f5f01a0$@org> FYI Ron GENERAL NATURE OF THE AMAC MANAGER POSITION AMAC: This technology leadership position will coordinate with the manager of the Alternative Media Access Center's (AMAC) production unit. The Alternative Media Access Center is a Board of Regents of the University System of Georgia funded project housed at The University of Georgia, Athens, Georgia. This position will be a classified University of Georgia funded position. Under the supervision of the Director, the Alternative Media Manager is responsible for the development and implementation of all production services, including electronic text and audio for the program. The AMAC membership consists of national, state and private institutions, including k-12 school districts. Specific Duties and Percentage of Time Management: 55% : Manage, facilitate and/or provide unit development of strategic and tactical planning. Supervise and develop an annual training calendar for production staff on alternative media and accessibility related issues. Develop an annual production unit budget for services. Production Service: 35%: Production of alternative media and monitoring of in- house/vendor production workflow and timelines, develop vendor relationships and contacts by working with AMAC Sr.Financial Accountant, work closely with AMAC IT Unit to incorporate production's needs in the AMAC production and tracking system, provide direct production support to team members during peak time Committee and Conferences: 10%: Represent AMAC on Committees and conferences locally and national Title: Alternative Media Manager Job Class: 10371 A full-time, 12 month, classified position Pay Range: $49,680 - $93,567 UGA Job Posting Number: 20081008 url: https://www.ugajobsearch.com/applicants/jsp/shared/frameset/Frameset.jsp? time=1214332830174 From larry.kiser at sfcc.edu Tue Jun 24 12:01:11 2008 From: larry.kiser at sfcc.edu (Larry Kiser) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accommodation Suggestions for a High-level Programming Course and a Student who is blind Message-ID: <20080624150112249.00000002160@SF305507> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From travis at travisroth.com Tue Jun 24 12:14:35 2008 From: travis at travisroth.com (Travis Roth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accommodation Suggestions for a High-level Programming Course and a Student who is blind In-Reply-To: <20080624150112249.00000002160@SF305507> References: <20080624150112249.00000002160@SF305507> Message-ID: <006701c8d62e$8a1e4b60$9e5ae220$@com> As for JAWS scripts for Visual Studio 2005, (Including Visual C# 2005 Express) There is a community effort for those. There is basic support for the form designer-the tool that visually lays out a GUI-that enable objects to be selected and placed on the form and moved around. (The underlying movement keystrokes are actually provided by Visual Studio 2005 which is quite keyboard friendly.) The current scripts (which some professional programmers use as well) can be found here: Go to www.nonvisualdevelopment.org and click on the JAWS Scripts link. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:01 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Accommodation Suggestions for a High-level Programming Course and a Student who is blind Dear Colleagues: A student who is blind is currently taking an online course in C++ during our Summer Term. The student was a DOS -based programmer many years ago before losing his eyesight. Through responses by members of Athen to a previous inquiry we were able to locate some JAWS scripts for Visual Studio that helped a great deal. To date the student is passing the C++ course, albeit with a great deal of assistance by the Division of Blind Services, a DBS rehab engineer who has set up a new computer at the student's home and written some JAWS scripts, contracted technical support paid by DBS and support by our office with respect to producing accessible on-line course material of various types. The student often expresses frustration over the number of steps he must remember to navigate the learning management system and the Visual Studio application. He still has some difficulty navigating the learning management system without assistance. It is my understanding that until he undertook the C++ course he used JAWS primarily to read and write emails, access some web sites and use the word processor. I have made him aware of several JAWS commands he had never used that are necessary for access. The textbook for the C++ course has been in production since December, 2007 and is only now nearing completion. The student, assuming he passes the C++ course, plans to next take COP2551-OBJECT ORIENT PROGRAMMING 1. The course description is as follows: This course covers the fundamentals of data structures using the Microsoft Visual Studio.NET platform. The student is introduced to object-oriented programming using encapsulation, inheritance and polymorphism. Fundamental Windows GUI programming will be introduced using an application-driven approach. Students will learn concepts such as visual programming, GUI components, multimedia, file processing, database processing, and exception handling. Prerequisite: COP1000 with a grade of C or better. We have some anxiety about how to accommodate the highly visual components of this next course, secure necessary JAWS scripts for the VISUAL C# 2005 application, and quickly obtain or produce the textbook in an accessible format. Any suggestions you are willing to give on accommodating this student will be greatly appreciated. Larry Kiser, Counselor Disabilities Resource Center Santa Fe Community College Gainesville, FL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ea at emptech.info Tue Jun 24 12:33:20 2008 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accommodation Suggestions for a High-level Programming Course and a Student who is blind In-Reply-To: <006701c8d62e$8a1e4b60$9e5ae220$@com> References: <20080624150112249.00000002160@SF305507> <006701c8d62e$8a1e4b60$9e5ae220$@com> Message-ID: <006101c8d631$29dc63b0$7d952b10$@info> It would be wonderful to have a page on the ATHEN wiki where all this valuable information could be stored so we could link to it when we come up with students facing these types of difficulties. I remember sometime ago we were discussing JAWS and SPSS scripts and I am wondering if there are any for MATLAB etc. Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Travis Roth Sent: 24 June 2008 20:15 To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Accommodation Suggestions for a High-level Programming Course and a Student who is blind As for JAWS scripts for Visual Studio 2005, (Including Visual C# 2005 Express) There is a community effort for those. There is basic support for the form designer-the tool that visually lays out a GUI-that enable objects to be selected and placed on the form and moved around. (The underlying movement keystrokes are actually provided by Visual Studio 2005 which is quite keyboard friendly.) The current scripts (which some professional programmers use as well) can be found here: Go to www.nonvisualdevelopment.org and click on the JAWS Scripts link. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:01 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Accommodation Suggestions for a High-level Programming Course and a Student who is blind Dear Colleagues: A student who is blind is currently taking an online course in C++ during our Summer Term. The student was a DOS -based programmer many years ago before losing his eyesight. Through responses by members of Athen to a previous inquiry we were able to locate some JAWS scripts for Visual Studio that helped a great deal. To date the student is passing the C++ course, albeit with a great deal of assistance by the Division of Blind Services, a DBS rehab engineer who has set up a new computer at the student's home and written some JAWS scripts, contracted technical support paid by DBS and support by our office with respect to producing accessible on-line course material of various types. The student often expresses frustration over the number of steps he must remember to navigate the learning management system and the Visual Studio application. He still has some difficulty navigating the learning management system without assistance. It is my understanding that until he undertook the C++ course he used JAWS primarily to read and write emails, access some web sites and use the word processor. I have made him aware of several JAWS commands he had never used that are necessary for access. The textbook for the C++ course has been in production since December, 2007 and is only now nearing completion. The student, assuming he passes the C++ course, plans to next take COP2551-OBJECT ORIENT PROGRAMMING 1. The course description is as follows: This course covers the fundamentals of data structures using the Microsoft Visual Studio.NET platform. The student is introduced to object-oriented programming using encapsulation, inheritance and polymorphism. Fundamental Windows GUI programming will be introduced using an application-driven approach. Students will learn concepts such as visual programming, GUI components, multimedia, file processing, database processing, and exception handling. Prerequisite: COP1000 with a grade of C or better. We have some anxiety about how to accommodate the highly visual components of this next course, secure necessary JAWS scripts for the VISUAL C# 2005 application, and quickly obtain or produce the textbook in an accessible format. Any suggestions you are willing to give on accommodating this student will be greatly appreciated. Larry Kiser, Counselor Disabilities Resource Center Santa Fe Community College Gainesville, FL No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1516 - Release Date: 24/06/2008 07:53 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Tue Jun 24 12:58:03 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: UNLV Positions Message-ID: <01a001c8d634$a0ba8180$e22f8480$@org> Another position, and the person you would be working for is known to be a great boss. Ron University of Nevada Las Vegas Location: Las Vegas, NV Category: Admin - Disability Services Posted: 06/23/2008 Application Due: Open Until Filled Type: Full Time RESPONSIBILITIES UNLV Disability Resource Center seeks a dynamic Assistive Technologist to provide assessment, consultation and training services to UNLV students with disabilities on the use of assistive technology. The AT Specialist will provide leadership and collaborate with university computer resource personnel to ensure institutional computer access. This position also coordinates alternative testing accommodations, and manages the alternative text reproduction services. The incumbent is responsible for ongoing development, modification, and testing of all DRC assistive technology, as well as the administration and reporting functions associated with assistive technology. The Assistive Technology specialist provides DRC with technical support for database maintenance and development. The position requires strong technical and interpersonal, and communication skills. QUALIFICATIONS Minimum: This position requires a Bachelor's degree from an accredited college or university with 1 (one) year of documented experience -- * providing assistive technology services for individuals with disabilities, including evaluation and training; * working with individuals who have disabilities; * using standard office software and applications; * collaborating in a team oriented work environment; and * possessing strong interpersonal and communication skills. Preferred: Experience with alternative test proctoring services, alternative text conversion, web accessibility compliance and disability services in higher education. Hands on experience with speech recognition and screen reading technology. Skills with database development and maintenance are desired. SALARY RANGE $40,000 minimum with full benefits (no state tax) SETTING UNLV is a doctoral-degree-granting institution with more than 28,000 students and more than 900 faculty members. More than 220 undergraduate, master's, and doctoral degrees are offered. Founded in 1957, UNLV is located on 337 acres in dynamic Southern Nevada. The university is ranked in the category of Doctoral/Research Universities-Intensive by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching. For more information, visit us on-line at: http://www.unlv.edu. APPLICATION DETAILS Submit a letter of interest, a detailed resume listing qualifications and experience, and the names, addresses, and telephone numbers of at least three professional references. Applicants should fully describe their qualifications and experience, with specific reference to each of the minimum and preferred qualifications because this is the information on which the initial review of materials will be based. Questions should be addressed to Twyla Lightowler, Search Committee Chair at twyla.lightowler@unlv.edu. For assistance with UNLV's on-line applicant portal, contact Jen Martens at (702) 895-3886 or hrsearch@unlv.edu Application Information Contact: University of Nevada Las Vegas Online App. Form: https://hrsearch.unlv.edu From rbeach at kckcc.edu Wed Jun 25 06:35:44 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] DNS 8 problem Message-ID: <48620360020000CF00016AD9@mymail.kckcc.edu> Hi all, I'm having an issue with Dragon NaturallySpeaking 8 that I and the dealer cannot seem to fix. Unfortunately, the manufacturer just tells the dealer, "It shouldn't be doing that." I install under the administrator account and everything works fine. I can log in under a different administrator level account and everything still works. However, when I log in under a student account (limited), DNS goes nuts. I get 5 different messages relating to invalid serial number and initialization errors, DNS will not stop trying to load which means the errors continue, and I have to shut down the computer to stop the loop. DNS shouldn't be trying to load automatically, but it does. I've gone in to the security tab of the Dragon folder and gave full control to everyone and users, but that doesn't fix the problem. This same thing is happening on three different Dell computers with 2 different copies of the software. The computers are running on Server 2003, but were previously running on Novell and having the same problem. The software is not a network version but is installed on the local machine. Anybody got any ideas? Any help will be appreciated! Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From larry.kiser at sfcc.edu Wed Jun 25 07:25:41 2008 From: larry.kiser at sfcc.edu (Larry Kiser) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accommodation Suggestions for a High-level ProgrammingCourse and a Student who is blind In-Reply-To: <006701c8d62e$8a1e4b60$9e5ae220$@com> References: <20080624150112249.00000002160@SF305507> <006701c8d62e$8a1e4b60$9e5ae220$@com> Message-ID: <20080625102541628.00000003344@SF305507> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maryz at MIT.EDU Wed Jun 25 07:42:02 2008 From: maryz at MIT.EDU (Mary J. Ziegler) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] DNS 8 problem References: <48620360020000CF00016AD9@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <001c01c8d6d1$a1fe0fb0$e8017112@mit.edu> We had this problem a couple years ago. To the best of my recollection, here's the workaround we used: - give the student administrator account privledges - have them log in and launch Dragon to initialize it; make sure all messages are cleared. - have them log out - remove their admin privledges and put them back on a limited access account. It was a pain to do this for each student that needed to use Dragon, but it did work. Hope this helps, - Mary Mary J. Ziegler Team Leader, Adaptive Technology Services MIT Information Services and Technology (IS&T) ATIC Lab Room 7-143 617-258-9328 maryz@mit.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Beach" To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: [Athen] DNS 8 problem Hi all, I'm having an issue with Dragon NaturallySpeaking 8 that I and the dealer cannot seem to fix. Unfortunately, the manufacturer just tells the dealer, "It shouldn't be doing that." I install under the administrator account and everything works fine. I can log in under a different administrator level account and everything still works. However, when I log in under a student account (limited), DNS goes nuts. I get 5 different messages relating to invalid serial number and initialization errors, DNS will not stop trying to load which means the errors continue, and I have to shut down the computer to stop the loop. DNS shouldn't be trying to load automatically, but it does. I've gone in to the security tab of the Dragon folder and gave full control to everyone and users, but that doesn't fix the problem. This same thing is happening on three different Dell computers with 2 different copies of the software. The computers are running on Server 2003, but were previously running on Novell and having the same problem. The software is not a network version but is installed on the local machine. Anybody got any ideas? Any help will be appreciated! Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From rbeach at kckcc.edu Wed Jun 25 08:27:53 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] DNS 8 problem In-Reply-To: <001c01c8d6d1$a1fe0fb0$e8017112@mit.edu> References: <48620360020000CF00016AD9@mymail.kckcc.edu> <001c01c8d6d1$a1fe0fb0$e8017112@mit.edu> Message-ID: <48621DA9020000CF00016B10@mymail.kckcc.edu> That's the kind of thing I was "hoping" to avoid, but that may be what I have to do. Unfortunately, our IS department has become rather tight with their security and are resistant to give me the necessary rights to do this on my own. It would be something I have to get them to do with each student. What a drag! Oh well, if worse comes to worse, ... Thanks for the tip. I'll keep it posted in case we don't come up with a better solution. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Mary J. Ziegler" 6/25/2008 9:42 AM >>> We had this problem a couple years ago. To the best of my recollection, here's the workaround we used: - give the student administrator account privledges - have them log in and launch Dragon to initialize it; make sure all messages are cleared. - have them log out - remove their admin privledges and put them back on a limited access account. It was a pain to do this for each student that needed to use Dragon, but it did work. Hope this helps, - Mary Mary J. Ziegler Team Leader, Adaptive Technology Services MIT Information Services and Technology (IS&T) ATIC Lab Room 7-143 617-258-9328 maryz@mit.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Beach" To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: [Athen] DNS 8 problem Hi all, I'm having an issue with Dragon NaturallySpeaking 8 that I and the dealer cannot seem to fix. Unfortunately, the manufacturer just tells the dealer, "It shouldn't be doing that." I install under the administrator account and everything works fine. I can log in under a different administrator level account and everything still works. However, when I log in under a student account (limited), DNS goes nuts. I get 5 different messages relating to invalid serial number and initialization errors, DNS will not stop trying to load which means the errors continue, and I have to shut down the computer to stop the loop. DNS shouldn't be trying to load automatically, but it does. I've gone in to the security tab of the Dragon folder and gave full control to everyone and users, but that doesn't fix the problem. This same thing is happening on three different Dell computers with 2 different copies of the software. The computers are running on Server 2003, but were previously running on Novell and having the same problem. The software is not a network version but is installed on the local machine. Anybody got any ideas? Any help will be appreciated! Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From JWeier at stlcc.edu Wed Jun 25 08:28:39 2008 From: JWeier at stlcc.edu (Weier, James A.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] DNS 8 problem References: <48620360020000CF00016AD9@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: Another option you can try is to put the student account in the Administrators group temporarily and then run the install CD again on the student profile while the profile is in the Administrators group. Then when the install is finished, remove the student profile from the Administrators group and boot the student account. See if that fixes the issues. Sometimes, some software requires full access rights (Administrator) to install correctly and then after the fact you could change the account to lesser rights. My guess is, you probably installed DNS under an account with Admin Rights initially, which is the way you should do it, but in this case you will run the CD a second time on the student account setup with Admin rights temporarily. We had a problem with a weird conflict with Zoomtext 9.01a and DNS 8.1 Pro a year or so back. The student account was in the Power Users and Users group originally and when we would try to run DNS 8.1 we would get error 1706. To fix this I temporarily put the student account in the Administrators group and ran the DNS install CD on the student account. (Initially I installed under the Administrator account.) It extracted a few more files from the CD and did a few things. Very quick. Then I removed the student account from the Administrators group and logged into the student account and DNS worked fine then. We install our Adaptive software on each of our 3 PC's individually that we use for DNS. We don't have an Application Server on the academic side of the network. Each department is responsible for their own lab computers. Just the way they have it, but we are trying to get things changed because network versions are much better for management of licensing and updates. James A. Weier Adaptive Tech. Specialist/Access Office St. Louis Community College 3400 Pershall Road Ferguson, MO. 63135 314-513-4162 (voice) 314-513-4876 (fax) jweier@stlcc.edu ? There are three basic types, the wills, the won'ts, and the can'ts. The wills accomplish everything, the won'ts oppose everything, and the can'ts won't try anything.? -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:36 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] DNS 8 problem Hi all, I'm having an issue with Dragon NaturallySpeaking 8 that I and the dealer cannot seem to fix. Unfortunately, the manufacturer just tells the dealer, "It shouldn't be doing that." I install under the administrator account and everything works fine. I can log in under a different administrator level account and everything still works. However, when I log in under a student account (limited), DNS goes nuts. I get 5 different messages relating to invalid serial number and initialization errors, DNS will not stop trying to load which means the errors continue, and I have to shut down the computer to stop the loop. DNS shouldn't be trying to load automatically, but it does. I've gone in to the security tab of the Dragon folder and gave full control to everyone and users, but that doesn't fix the problem. This same thing is happening on three different Dell computers with 2 different copies of the software. The computers are running on Server 2003, but were previously running on Novell and having the same problem. The software is not a network version but is installed on the local machine. Anybody got any ideas? Any help will be appreciated! Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From rbeach at kckcc.edu Wed Jun 25 10:03:41 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] DNS 8 problem In-Reply-To: References: <48620360020000CF00016AD9@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <4862341D020000CF00016B44@mymail.kckcc.edu> Yikes! The more I think about this, the more I realize it will probably not be possible on our system. Firstly, we are using virtual logins so there is no account on the local machine until a person actually logs into the server. Therefore, I cannot set them to administrator level. Secondly, because I cannot stop Dragon from automatically launching, every person who logs in gets the same error unless they have administrator priveleges. There is no way to give every student who uses the machine administrator priveleges, then set them back just so they can use the computer. I was hoping that giving the everyone group full control would fix this problem, but evidently it didn't. So, good ideas but probably not solutions for our system here. Of course, I'm not a network person, so if I'm missing something, let me know. I'm still open to ideas. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Weier, James A." 6/25/2008 10:28 AM >>> Another option you can try is to put the student account in the Administrators group temporarily and then run the install CD again on the student profile while the profile is in the Administrators group. Then when the install is finished, remove the student profile from the Administrators group and boot the student account. See if that fixes the issues. Sometimes, some software requires full access rights (Administrator) to install correctly and then after the fact you could change the account to lesser rights. My guess is, you probably installed DNS under an account with Admin Rights initially, which is the way you should do it, but in this case you will run the CD a second time on the student account setup with Admin rights temporarily. We had a problem with a weird conflict with Zoomtext 9.01a and DNS 8.1 Pro a year or so back. The student account was in the Power Users and Users group originally and when we would try to run DNS 8.1 we would get error 1706. To fix this I temporarily put the student account in the Administrators group and ran the DNS install CD on the student account. (Initially I installed under the Administrator account.) It extracted a few more files from the CD and did a few things. Very quick. Then I removed the student account from the Administrators group and logged into the student account and DNS worked fine then. We install our Adaptive software on each of our 3 PC's individually that we use for DNS. We don't have an Application Server on the academic side of the network. Each department is responsible for their own lab computers. Just the way they have it, but we are trying to get things changed because network versions are much better for management of licensing and updates. James A. Weier Adaptive Tech. Specialist/Access Office St. Louis Community College 3400 Pershall Road Ferguson, MO. 63135 314-513-4162 (voice) 314-513-4876 (fax) jweier@stlcc.edu There are three basic types, the wills, the won'ts, and the can'ts. The wills accomplish everything, the won'ts oppose everything, and the can'ts won't try anything. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:36 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] DNS 8 problem Hi all, I'm having an issue with Dragon NaturallySpeaking 8 that I and the dealer cannot seem to fix. Unfortunately, the manufacturer just tells the dealer, "It shouldn't be doing that." I install under the administrator account and everything works fine. I can log in under a different administrator level account and everything still works. However, when I log in under a student account (limited), DNS goes nuts. I get 5 different messages relating to invalid serial number and initialization errors, DNS will not stop trying to load which means the errors continue, and I have to shut down the computer to stop the loop. DNS shouldn't be trying to load automatically, but it does. I've gone in to the security tab of the Dragon folder and gave full control to everyone and users, but that doesn't fix the problem. This same thing is happening on three different Dell computers with 2 different copies of the software. The computers are running on Server 2003, but were previously running on Novell and having the same problem. The software is not a network version but is installed on the local machine. Anybody got any ideas? Any help will be appreciated! Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From skeegan at htctu.net Wed Jun 25 10:20:22 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] DNS 8 problem In-Reply-To: <48620360020000CF00016AD9@mymail.kckcc.edu> References: <48620360020000CF00016AD9@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <002701c8d6e7$c0a41f70$41ec5e50$@net> > I install under the administrator account and everything works > fine. I can log in under a different administrator level account > and everything still works. However, when I log in under a > student account (limited), DNS goes nuts. I get 5 different > messages relating to invalid serial number and initialization > errors, DNS will not stop trying to load which means the errors > continue, and I have to shut down the computer to stop the loop. I remember an issue with Dragon 8 and ZoomText 8 where Dragon would try to run the installation process again under a limited user account setting. I believe the issue was that the ZoomText auto-update feature automatically launches Dragon. One solution that we tried was the process of promoting the limited user account to an administrator level, allowing Dragon to complete the installation process, and then returning the account back to the limited user level. Basically, the same process that Mary Z. outlined in a previous message. However, Trevor Lorenz out of CSU Sacramento found a better option that disabled the auto-update wizard for ZoomText and prevented the situation from occurring. Instructions are below, but remember that this was for ZoomText 8.1 and involves editing the registry, so be aware. 1. Navigate in the registry to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AISQUARED\Zoomtext Xtra\8.1\Settings\Reader 2. Add a new DWORD value and name it "Don't Run Update Wizard" (without the quotes) 3. Set its value to 1 You will have to navigate to a slightly different location in the registry system as you are using a different version of ZoomText, but this might be a solution across all users as opposed to doing it one user at a time. Take care, Sean From JWeier at stlcc.edu Wed Jun 25 10:43:35 2008 From: JWeier at stlcc.edu (Weier, James A.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] DNS 8 problem References: <48620360020000CF00016AD9@mymail.kckcc.edu> <4862341D020000CF00016B44@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: Yup. Virtual logins are set by the Administrator and controlled by the Server. That might not be practical for them to change just for a moment the Virtual login to have Admin rights just for one piece of software. Then again, this is an accessibility right. Tell them the issue and what might resolve the problem, but they may not want to attempt anything with just "might". It might work, but it might not work. Never know until you test it on one system. James A. Weier Adaptive Tech. Specialist/Access Office St. Louis Community College 3400 Pershall Road Ferguson, MO. 63135 314-513-4162 (voice) 314-513-4876 (fax) jweier@stlcc.edu ? There are three basic types, the wills, the won'ts, and the can'ts. The wills accomplish everything, the won'ts oppose everything, and the can'ts won't try anything.? -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:04 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] DNS 8 problem Yikes! The more I think about this, the more I realize it will probably not be possible on our system. Firstly, we are using virtual logins so there is no account on the local machine until a person actually logs into the server. Therefore, I cannot set them to administrator level. Secondly, because I cannot stop Dragon from automatically launching, every person who logs in gets the same error unless they have administrator priveleges. There is no way to give every student who uses the machine administrator priveleges, then set them back just so they can use the computer. I was hoping that giving the everyone group full control would fix this problem, but evidently it didn't. So, good ideas but probably not solutions for our system here. Of course, I'm not a network person, so if I'm missing something, let me know. I'm still open to ideas. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Weier, James A." 6/25/2008 10:28 AM >>> Another option you can try is to put the student account in the Administrators group temporarily and then run the install CD again on the student profile while the profile is in the Administrators group. Then when the install is finished, remove the student profile from the Administrators group and boot the student account. See if that fixes the issues. Sometimes, some software requires full access rights (Administrator) to install correctly and then after the fact you could change the account to lesser rights. My guess is, you probably installed DNS under an account with Admin Rights initially, which is the way you should do it, but in this case you will run the CD a second time on the student account setup with Admin rights temporarily. We had a problem with a weird conflict with Zoomtext 9.01a and DNS 8.1 Pro a year or so back. The student account was in the Power Users and Users group originally and when we would try to run DNS 8.1 we would get error 1706. To fix this I temporarily put the student account in the Administrators group and ran the DNS install CD on the student account. (Initially I installed under the Administrator account.) It extracted a few more files from the CD and did a few things. Very quick. Then I removed the student account from the Administrators group and logged into the student account and DNS worked fine then. We install our Adaptive software on each of our 3 PC's individually that we use for DNS. We don't have an Application Server on the academic side of the network. Each department is responsible for their own lab computers. Just the way they have it, but we are trying to get things changed because network versions are much better for management of licensing and updates. James A. Weier Adaptive Tech. Specialist/Access Office St. Louis Community College 3400 Pershall Road Ferguson, MO. 63135 314-513-4162 (voice) 314-513-4876 (fax) jweier@stlcc.edu There are three basic types, the wills, the won'ts, and the can'ts. The wills accomplish everything, the won'ts oppose everything, and the can'ts won't try anything. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:36 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] DNS 8 problem Hi all, I'm having an issue with Dragon NaturallySpeaking 8 that I and the dealer cannot seem to fix. Unfortunately, the manufacturer just tells the dealer, "It shouldn't be doing that." I install under the administrator account and everything works fine. I can log in under a different administrator level account and everything still works. However, when I log in under a student account (limited), DNS goes nuts. I get 5 different messages relating to invalid serial number and initialization errors, DNS will not stop trying to load which means the errors continue, and I have to shut down the computer to stop the loop. DNS shouldn't be trying to load automatically, but it does. I've gone in to the security tab of the Dragon folder and gave full control to everyone and users, but that doesn't fix the problem. This same thing is happening on three different Dell computers with 2 different copies of the software. The computers are running on Server 2003, but were previously running on Novell and having the same problem. The software is not a network version but is installed on the local machine. Anybody got any ideas? Any help will be appreciated! Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From rbeach at kckcc.edu Wed Jun 25 14:42:27 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] DNS 8 problem In-Reply-To: <002701c8d6e7$c0a41f70$41ec5e50$@net> References: <48620360020000CF00016AD9@mymail.kckcc.edu> <002701c8d6e7$c0a41f70$41ec5e50$@net> Message-ID: <48627573020000CF00016B9B@mymail.kckcc.edu> Hmmm, this does sound like a possibility. Now if I can just boost up my nerve to go into the registry. I've edited registries before and the machine lived to tell about it, so maybe I can do this with these instructions. Thanks so much! Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Sean Keegan" 6/25/2008 12:20 PM >>> > I install under the administrator account and everything works > fine. I can log in under a different administrator level account > and everything still works. However, when I log in under a > student account (limited), DNS goes nuts. I get 5 different > messages relating to invalid serial number and initialization > errors, DNS will not stop trying to load which means the errors > continue, and I have to shut down the computer to stop the loop. I remember an issue with Dragon 8 and ZoomText 8 where Dragon would try to run the installation process again under a limited user account setting. I believe the issue was that the ZoomText auto-update feature automatically launches Dragon. One solution that we tried was the process of promoting the limited user account to an administrator level, allowing Dragon to complete the installation process, and then returning the account back to the limited user level. Basically, the same process that Mary Z. outlined in a previous message. However, Trevor Lorenz out of CSU Sacramento found a better option that disabled the auto-update wizard for ZoomText and prevented the situation from occurring. Instructions are below, but remember that this was for ZoomText 8.1 and involves editing the registry, so be aware. 1. Navigate in the registry to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AISQUARED\Zoomtext Xtra\8.1\Settings\Reader 2. Add a new DWORD value and name it "Don't Run Update Wizard" (without the quotes) 3. Set its value to 1 You will have to navigate to a slightly different location in the registry system as you are using a different version of ZoomText, but this might be a solution across all users as opposed to doing it one user at a time. Take care, Sean _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From gdietrich at htctu.net Wed Jun 25 16:46:03 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: ICDR Stakeholder Meeting-Save the Dates Message-ID: <000801c8d71d$a2b2a820$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> The ICDR is seeking your input/comments about disability research issues. Please review the attached flyer and respond promptly if you are interested in participating in the ICDR stakeholder events. The text of the flyer is copied below. For more information and registration, please visit the Web site at http://www.icdr.us/stakeholders. SAVE THE DATES Tuesday, August 5, 2008 9:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m. and 1:00 - 4:00 p.m. ET Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m. and 1:00 - 4:00 p.m. ET Doubletree Hotel Crystal City 300 Army Navy Drive Arlington, VA 22202 Notice of public meetings and Request for comments The Interagency Committee on Disability Research (ICDR) encourages individuals with disabilities or organizations representing individuals with disabilities such as: 1) service providers, 2) disability and rehabilitation research and policy groups, and 3) advocacy organizations with specialized disability knowledge and experience, to suggest specific ways to improve future disability and rehabilitation research to benefit individuals with disabilities. We are also interested in hearing from individuals concerning how well the existing federal research programs are responding to the changing needs of individuals with disabilities. These comments can cover a wide range of research areas, including, but not limited to, the following: * Employment of people with disabilities * Community integration and continuum of care * Health disparities * Access to assistive technology and universal design * Transition of youth to employment and independent living * Availability of accessible housing, transportation and recreation A panel of ICDR members will hear testimony during four separate meetings on the two days listed above at the Doubletree Hotel in Arlington, VA. For those who are unable to testify in person, testimony may be given by phone or in writing. (Written testimony will be read as time permits.) The meeting will also be Webcast and interested parties can observe the proceedings live via an IP Web site. If you are interested in giving testimony in person, by phone, or wish to submit only written testimony, please register to that effect on the ICDR Stakeholder Meeting Web site: http://www.icdr.us/stakeholders. Oral testimony will be limited and will be accommodated on a first-come, first-served basis. Please note that people who wish to observe the Webcast without actively participating should also register. Additional information, including the format for written and oral testimony and deadlines for receiving comment can be found on the Web site. People must indicate, which date and session (morning or afternoon), they wish to partake in. Participants on the west coast will be given preference for testimony by phone during the afternoon sessions. For further information, please contact Carol Blachly at cblachly@cessi.net or visit the Web site. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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DELIVERING THE GENERAL CURRICULUM: PRE-SERVICE TEACHER PERSPECTIVES REGARDING A TECHNOLOGICAL APPROACH FOR STUDENTS WITH MODERATE AND SEVERE DISABILITIES Thomas Simmons Debra Bauder Michael Abell William Penrod University of Louisville The emphasis on inclusion of children with disabilities has brought about significant changes to how students with disabilities are able to access the general curriculum. Students with moderate to severe disabilities have historically been offered few instructional resources that provide such access and alignment with instruction offered in the inclusionary setting. With the advancement in technology, curriculum can now be universally designed in digital format while offering more ways for students to engage the learning process. This article discusses how pre-service teachers viewed the use of digital curriculum content with this student population. In particular, how pre-service teachers view digital curriculum developed using Intellitools Classroom Suite? as a new and flexible instructional tool that can help meet the broad learning needs of all students including those with severe disabilities by offering improved ways to modify the curriculum. ACCESSIBLE IT: LESSONS LEARNED FROM THREE UNIVERSITIES Sheryl Burgstahler University of Washington Alice Anderson University of Wisconsin?Madison John Slatin and Kay Lewis University of Texas at Austin Technology has the potential to maximize personal productivity, access to information, and collaboration among students, faculty, and staff in postsecondary institutions. However, many websites and other information technologies (IT) at postsecondary institutions are not fully accessible to people with disabilities. There is no single way to increase the use of accessible IT on campus, but there are promising practices that advance this effort, including (1) securing the support of high-level administrators; (2) involving key stakeholder groups; (3) adopting guidelines or standards; (4) providing training and technical support; (4) developing goals, benchmarks, and timelines; (5) implementing a system for monitoring accessibility progress and revising policies and procedures; (6) working with one program to create a model of accessibility policies and practices to share with others; and (7) recognizing those who promote the use of accessible IT on campus. This article summarizes the experiences of three large state universities that have addressed IT accessibility issues in multiple ways. Their experiences can help other institutions begin or revise policies, procedures, and practices in this area. A REGIONAL PROFILE OF ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY SERVICES: ASSESSMENT OF SERVICE DELIVERY AND SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVING POST SECONDARY TRANSITION Brian J. Kearney James Sissom Southern Illinois University Abstract: This article describes a study that investigates the adaptation and use of an existing survey (School District Profile of Assistive Technology Services), to perform an assessment of the delivery of Assistive Technology (AT) services and training in seven Special Education Cooperatives that provide special education services to the K-12 schools in the southern Illinois region. The survey assesses: The quality and type of AT services that are currently being used to support special education students in the school setting; the type of training needed by school personnel with regard to AT; and the survey instrument, in its modified form, perceived as an effective instrument for assessing the delivery of AT services. The authors discuss the appropriateness and challenges associated with applying authentic collaboration conceptual models and guidelines suggested by researchers for developing teams that facilitate the transition of students with disabilities from K-12 to postsecondary levels of education. ONLINE ACCESSIBILITY AND LEADERSHIP: A CRITICAL VIEW AT THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION Axel Schmetzke Professor Library University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point Abstract: The author takes a critical view at the leadership of the American Library Association (ALA) and discusses the extent to which its policies and mode of operation promote, or fail to promote, a barrier-free online library environment. The author analyzes selected ALA policies, and examines the degree to which accessibility advocating groups within ALA participate in the process of policy making. He finds that several ALA policies and guidelines dealing with digital resources neglect to address the needs of users with disabilities, and that the organizations within ALA that are advocates for people with disabilities, particularly the Libraries Serving Special Populations Section (LSSPS) and the Accessibility Assembly, fail to pay attention to policy development in other ALA branches. The author's major recommendations include: First, advocates for people with disabilities within ALA need to band together and put in place an organizational structure (a kind of watchdog group) that enables them to systematically monitor, and, if deemed necessary, to respond to the policies and guidelines drafted by other ALA groups. Second, ASCLA, LSSPS, the Accessibility Assembly, and other "disability advocates" within ALA need to lobby the ALA Accreditation Committee to pay attention to the accessibility of library/information science programs and to require a curriculum that ensures that all newly trained librarians understand the needs of diverse populations, including those of people with disabilities. Third, suitable ALA organizations should establish a clearinghouse providing easy access to vendor-supplied information as well as pointers to data collected by independent researchers. The journal is online at: http://people.rit.edu/easi/itd.htm **** the EASI online course for July is Barrier-free Web Design http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Taking 5 courses earns the Certificate in Accessible Information Technology From norm.coombs at gmail.com Thu Jun 26 12:15:55 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] EASI Webinars and Courses for July Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080626121419.0238aec0@pop.gmail.com> EASI Webinars for July Free Webinar: Providing and Managing Accessible PDF Documents Tue, July 8 at Noon Eastern (New York) Time Presenter: Paul Turenne from NetCentric Technologies Adobe has made great strides in designing the PDF document format itself and the tools to produce and read them much more friendly and accessible for users with disabilities, especially users of screen readers. The complexity of accessibility for a PDF document depends a lot on the complexity of the document. While Acrobat itself can create accessible documents, there are third party developers providing tools designed to assist the document creator with the process. NetCentric has products to help. One plugs into Acrobat. Another helps managers of large Websites to monitor and manage large numbers of PDF documents. This presentation will discuss NetCentric's efforts to help raise the level of PDF accessibility. Netcentric is also developing a plug-in for Word to make creating simple accessible PDF for those who do not own Acrobat itself. Watch for future announcements at (net-centric.com) EASI Webinar Snapshot: Making Accessible Online Surveys Tue. July 8 at 2 PM EASTERN Presenter: Dick Banks Surveys and forms are a big part of Internet life. Users may choose to fill out a survey to help in a research project. Surveys are often created to help sellers determine what products may be of interest to customers. Visitors may want to answer questions in a poll and review the poll results to see how they match up with others. Surveys and polls can be detailed an complex and if they are not created with accessibility in mind, many with assistive technology are unable to participate. There are a number of online solutions to creating accessible forms, surveys and polls and they will be introduced to you in this Webinar snapshot. EASI Webinar Snapshot: AMIS a Free Software DAISY Pllayer Wed. July 23 at 2 PM EASTERN Presenter: Norm Coombs The DAISY format will increasingly become the format for e-books in the near future because of its greatly enhanced document navigation. Remember that the Library of Congress National Library Service is transitioning to audio DAISY books replacing the current audio cassette format. NIMAS is a version of DAISY which is the format that publishers are using to provide electronic versions of text books for grades K-12. However, the DAISY documents require a special player to access them. There are a number of commercial hardware and software DAISY players. AMIS, (Adaptive Multimedia Information System), is a free software DAISY player. This snapshot will provide a very brief introduction to AMIS and will discuss installing it and describe its settings and functions. Four important and significant Webinars are planned and will shortly be here with dates in late July or August: 1 The free Microsoft Word-to-DAISY Plug-in 2 Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) version 2 guidelines 3 Comparing Windows XP and the Vista Operating Systems s 4. Understanding the New Look of Office 2007 Read more and register online for these Webinars at: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm - - - - - - - - - - - - EASI asynchronous Online Course in July: Barrier-free Web Design This is one of the courses that can be taken independently or 5 courses will earn the Certificate in Accessible Information Technology. The course does not require knowledge of HTML although it never hurts. You can use WYSIWYG authoring software to create accessible Web pages. It does very little with so-called Web 2.0 Web pages Week One: Lesson 1: Introduction and General Overview Lesson 2: Web Accessibility Guidelines and Section 508 Standards Week Two: Lesson 3: Evaluating Webpages for Accessibility/Useability Lesson 4: Introduction to WYSIWYG Authoring Lesson 5: Page Navigation and Organization Week Three: Lesson 6: The Use of ALT Tags with Images and Imagemaps Lesson 7: Frames and Forms Lesson 8: Simple and Complex Tables Week Four Lesson 9: Streaming Audio and Video Lesson 10: The Document Object Model (DOM) You can read more and register online at: http://easi.cc/workshop.htm From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Fri Jun 27 08:33:15 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] A Dragon question Message-ID: <485D76DB00000A09@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Hi all, This is a question about DNS use as appropriate accommodation, not a technical question. A student has multiple disorders including OCD & inability to control his voice. He is demanding Dragon Naturally Speaking [which would be limited to use in our adaptive lab where it is loaded --an 8-station lab in the library with other people working/talking/using computers]. I explained how one has to speak in grammatically correct (more or less) English and be able to control tone & pitch reasonably well with the voice in order to receive optimum output & recognition. He is not asking for this as an accommodation, nor does he have any documentation that would necessarily support it as an accommodation, but rather he wants to have it for "taking notes" for personal use and homework. He is unable to control his anger & frustration and I tried very hard to explain that there were other, better options which he could use at home, including purchasing DNS on his own, purchasing a portable speech-to-text recorder which is a lot more portable. IMHO, the control, both of having to think in grammatically correct English and of the voice itself would exacerbate the OCD and not work well with this student. Any suggestions from you wise ones? Blessings, Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From gdietrich at htctu.net Fri Jun 27 10:03:43 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] A Dragon question In-Reply-To: <485D76DB00000A09@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> References: <485D76DB00000A09@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <001801c8d877$c1c32a40$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> You are absolutely correct in all that you say...and my advice, let him use it anyway. Odds are he'll fail very quickly, and that will be the end of it. He'll move on to the next great idea. Any other course of action on your part, and you become "the problem." Just my two cents. ;-) ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 AM To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; ATHEN Subject: [Athen] A Dragon question Hi all, This is a question about DNS use as appropriate accommodation, not a technical question. A student has multiple disorders including OCD & inability to control his voice. He is demanding Dragon Naturally Speaking [which would be limited to use in our adaptive lab where it is loaded --an 8-station lab in the library with other people working/talking/using computers]. I explained how one has to speak in grammatically correct (more or less) English and be able to control tone & pitch reasonably well with the voice in order to receive optimum output & recognition. He is not asking for this as an accommodation, nor does he have any documentation that would necessarily support it as an accommodation, but rather he wants to have it for "taking notes" for personal use and homework. He is unable to control his anger & frustration and I tried very hard to explain that there were other, better options which he could use at home, including purchasing DNS on his own, purchasing a portable speech-to-text recorder which is a lot more portable. IMHO, the control, both of having to think in grammatically correct English and of the voice itself would exacerbate the OCD and not work well with this student. Any suggestions from you wise ones? Blessings, Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Fri Jun 27 10:51:49 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] A Dragon question In-Reply-To: <001801c8d877$c1c32a40$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <485D76DB00000A46@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Thanks Gaier. Appreciate the advice. I think I will prepare my AT staff in advance for how to work with him in the lab. I made some other recommendations (well, I thought they were good!) for alternatives, but he wanted nothing to do with anything else. Will keep you (all) posted. Thanks again, Wink >-- Original Message -- >From: "Gaeir Dietrich" >To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" >Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:03:43 -0700 >Subject: Re: [Athen] A Dragon question >Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > >You are absolutely correct in all that you say...and my advice, let him use >it anyway. Odds are he'll fail very quickly, and that will be the end of >it. >He'll move on to the next great idea. > >Any other course of action on your part, and you become "the problem." > >Just my two cents. ;-) > >****************************************************** >Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich >High Tech Center Training Unit of the >California Community Colleges >De Anza College, Cupertino, CA >www.htctu.net >408-996-6043 >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Wink Harner >Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 AM >To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; ATHEN >Subject: [Athen] A Dragon question > >Hi all, > >This is a question about DNS use as appropriate accommodation, not a >technical >question. A student has multiple disorders including OCD & inability to >control >his voice. He is demanding Dragon Naturally Speaking [which would be limited >to use in our adaptive lab where it is loaded --an 8-station lab in the >library >with other people working/talking/using computers]. I explained how one has >to speak in grammatically correct (more or less) English and be able to >control >tone & pitch reasonably well with the voice in order to receive optimum >output >& recognition. He is not asking for this as an accommodation, nor does he >have any documentation that would necessarily support it as an >accommodation, >but rather he wants to have it for "taking notes" for personal use and >homework. >He is unable to control his anger & frustration and I tried very hard to >explain that there were other, better options which he could use at home, >including purchasing DNS on his own, purchasing a portable speech-to-text >recorder which is a lot more portable. IMHO, the control, both of having >to think in grammatically correct English and of the voice itself would >exacerbate >the OCD and not work well with this student. > >Any suggestions from you wise ones? > >Blessings, > >Wink > >Ms. Wink Harner >Manager >Disability Resources & Services >Mesa Community College >Mesa AZ > >480-461-7447 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From maryz at MIT.EDU Fri Jun 27 11:14:30 2008 From: maryz at MIT.EDU (Mary J. Ziegler) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] A Dragon question References: <485D76DB00000A46@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <017a01c8d881$a4e91a60$e8017112@mit.edu> Wink, I agree with Gaier, but would add that we have, on occasion, made it clear to students that they may use the AT lab initially only on a trial or temporary basis in order to try out a technology. After an agreed upon period of time, we request that they check back with us and review if the solution is working for them or not. If it is, we allow them to continue to use the lab, but if it's not, we have a chance to suggest an alternative. Good luck, Mary Mary J. Ziegler Team Leader, Adaptive Technology Services MIT Information Services and Technology (IS&T) ATIC Lab Room 7-143 617-258-9328 maryz@mit.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wink Harner" To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Athen] A Dragon question Thanks Gaier. Appreciate the advice. I think I will prepare my AT staff in advance for how to work with him in the lab. I made some other recommendations (well, I thought they were good!) for alternatives, but he wanted nothing to do with anything else. Will keep you (all) posted. Thanks again, Wink >-- Original Message -- >From: "Gaeir Dietrich" >To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > >Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:03:43 -0700 >Subject: Re: [Athen] A Dragon question >Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > > >You are absolutely correct in all that you say...and my advice, let him use >it anyway. Odds are he'll fail very quickly, and that will be the end of >it. >He'll move on to the next great idea. > >Any other course of action on your part, and you become "the problem." > >Just my two cents. ;-) > >****************************************************** >Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich >High Tech Center Training Unit of the >California Community Colleges >De Anza College, Cupertino, CA >www.htctu.net >408-996-6043 >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Wink Harner >Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 AM >To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; ATHEN >Subject: [Athen] A Dragon question > >Hi all, > >This is a question about DNS use as appropriate accommodation, not a >technical >question. A student has multiple disorders including OCD & inability to >control >his voice. He is demanding Dragon Naturally Speaking [which would be >limited >to use in our adaptive lab where it is loaded --an 8-station lab in the >library >with other people working/talking/using computers]. I explained how one has >to speak in grammatically correct (more or less) English and be able to >control >tone & pitch reasonably well with the voice in order to receive optimum >output >& recognition. He is not asking for this as an accommodation, nor does he >have any documentation that would necessarily support it as an >accommodation, >but rather he wants to have it for "taking notes" for personal use and >homework. >He is unable to control his anger & frustration and I tried very hard to >explain that there were other, better options which he could use at home, >including purchasing DNS on his own, purchasing a portable speech-to-text >recorder which is a lot more portable. IMHO, the control, both of having >to think in grammatically correct English and of the voice itself would >exacerbate >the OCD and not work well with this student. > >Any suggestions from you wise ones? > >Blessings, > >Wink > >Ms. Wink Harner >Manager >Disability Resources & Services >Mesa Community College >Mesa AZ > >480-461-7447 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Fri Jun 27 12:08:45 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] A Dragon question In-Reply-To: <017a01c8d881$a4e91a60$e8017112@mit.edu> Message-ID: <485D76DB00000A69@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Hi all, In the interest of quick, no-cost solutions, Deb Fitzgibbons of TEXTHELP suggested he try the speech to text technology built into Office XP on his own first. We might try that suggestion, have him report back, then refer him to the lab. Just a thought --it's about 112 today, so the brains are sort of fried. Wink >-- Original Message -- >From: "Mary J. Ziegler" >To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" >Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:14:30 -0400 >Subject: Re: [Athen] A Dragon question >Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > >Wink, > >I agree with Gaier, but would add that we have, on occasion, made it clear > >to students that they may use the AT lab initially only on a trial or >temporary basis in order to try out a technology. After an agreed upon > >period of time, we request that they check back with us and review if the > >solution is working for them or not. If it is, we allow them to continue > >to use the lab, but if it's not, we have a chance to suggest an alternative. > >Good luck, >Mary > >Mary J. Ziegler >Team Leader, Adaptive Technology Services >MIT Information Services and Technology (IS&T) >ATIC Lab Room 7-143 >617-258-9328 >maryz@mit.edu > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Wink Harner" >To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" >Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:51 PM >Subject: Re: [Athen] A Dragon question > > >Thanks Gaier. Appreciate the advice. I think I will prepare my AT staff in >advance for how to work with him in the lab. I made some other >recommendations >(well, I thought they were good!) for alternatives, but he wanted nothing >to do with anything else. > >Will keep you (all) posted. > >Thanks again, > >Wink > >>-- Original Message -- >>From: "Gaeir Dietrich" >>To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" >> >>Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:03:43 -0700 >>Subject: Re: [Athen] A Dragon question >>Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> >> >> >>You are absolutely correct in all that you say...and my advice, let him >use >>it anyway. Odds are he'll fail very quickly, and that will be the end of >>it. >>He'll move on to the next great idea. >> >>Any other course of action on your part, and you become "the problem." >> >>Just my two cents. ;-) >> >>****************************************************** >>Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich >>High Tech Center Training Unit of the >>California Community Colleges >>De Anza College, Cupertino, CA >>www.htctu.net >>408-996-6043 >>-----Original Message----- >>From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >>Behalf Of Wink Harner >>Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 AM >>To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; ATHEN >>Subject: [Athen] A Dragon question >> >>Hi all, >> >>This is a question about DNS use as appropriate accommodation, not a >>technical >>question. A student has multiple disorders including OCD & inability to >>control >>his voice. He is demanding Dragon Naturally Speaking [which would be >>limited >>to use in our adaptive lab where it is loaded --an 8-station lab in the >>library >>with other people working/talking/using computers]. I explained how one >has >>to speak in grammatically correct (more or less) English and be able to >>control >>tone & pitch reasonably well with the voice in order to receive optimum >>output >>& recognition. He is not asking for this as an accommodation, nor does he >>have any documentation that would necessarily support it as an >>accommodation, >>but rather he wants to have it for "taking notes" for personal use and >>homework. >>He is unable to control his anger & frustration and I tried very hard to >>explain that there were other, better options which he could use at home, >>including purchasing DNS on his own, purchasing a portable speech-to-text >>recorder which is a lot more portable. IMHO, the control, both of having >>to think in grammatically correct English and of the voice itself would >>exacerbate >>the OCD and not work well with this student. >> >>Any suggestions from you wise ones? >> >>Blessings, >> >>Wink >> >>Ms. Wink Harner >>Manager >>Disability Resources & Services >>Mesa Community College >>Mesa AZ >> >>480-461-7447 >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Athen mailing list >>Athen@athenpro.org >>http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Athen mailing list >>Athen@athenpro.org >>http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > >Ms. Wink Harner >Manager >Disability Resources & Services >Mesa Community College >Mesa AZ > >480-461-7447 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Fri Jun 27 12:08:46 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] A Dragon question In-Reply-To: <017a01c8d881$a4e91a60$e8017112@mit.edu> Message-ID: <485D76DB00000A6A@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Hi all, In the interest of quick, no-cost solutions, Deb Fitzgibbons of TEXTHELP suggested he try the speech to text technology built into Office XP on his own first. We might try that suggestion, have him report back, then refer him to the lab. Just a thought --it's about 112 today, so the brains are sort of fried. Wink >-- Original Message -- >From: "Mary J. Ziegler" >To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" >Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:14:30 -0400 >Subject: Re: [Athen] A Dragon question >Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > >Wink, > >I agree with Gaier, but would add that we have, on occasion, made it clear > >to students that they may use the AT lab initially only on a trial or >temporary basis in order to try out a technology. After an agreed upon > >period of time, we request that they check back with us and review if the > >solution is working for them or not. If it is, we allow them to continue > >to use the lab, but if it's not, we have a chance to suggest an alternative. > >Good luck, >Mary > >Mary J. Ziegler >Team Leader, Adaptive Technology Services >MIT Information Services and Technology (IS&T) >ATIC Lab Room 7-143 >617-258-9328 >maryz@mit.edu > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Wink Harner" >To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" >Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:51 PM >Subject: Re: [Athen] A Dragon question > > >Thanks Gaier. Appreciate the advice. I think I will prepare my AT staff in >advance for how to work with him in the lab. I made some other >recommendations >(well, I thought they were good!) for alternatives, but he wanted nothing >to do with anything else. > >Will keep you (all) posted. > >Thanks again, > >Wink > >>-- Original Message -- >>From: "Gaeir Dietrich" >>To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" >> >>Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:03:43 -0700 >>Subject: Re: [Athen] A Dragon question >>Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> >> >> >>You are absolutely correct in all that you say...and my advice, let him >use >>it anyway. Odds are he'll fail very quickly, and that will be the end of >>it. >>He'll move on to the next great idea. >> >>Any other course of action on your part, and you become "the problem." >> >>Just my two cents. ;-) >> >>****************************************************** >>Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich >>High Tech Center Training Unit of the >>California Community Colleges >>De Anza College, Cupertino, CA >>www.htctu.net >>408-996-6043 >>-----Original Message----- >>From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >>Behalf Of Wink Harner >>Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 AM >>To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; ATHEN >>Subject: [Athen] A Dragon question >> >>Hi all, >> >>This is a question about DNS use as appropriate accommodation, not a >>technical >>question. A student has multiple disorders including OCD & inability to >>control >>his voice. He is demanding Dragon Naturally Speaking [which would be >>limited >>to use in our adaptive lab where it is loaded --an 8-station lab in the >>library >>with other people working/talking/using computers]. I explained how one >has >>to speak in grammatically correct (more or less) English and be able to >>control >>tone & pitch reasonably well with the voice in order to receive optimum >>output >>& recognition. He is not asking for this as an accommodation, nor does he >>have any documentation that would necessarily support it as an >>accommodation, >>but rather he wants to have it for "taking notes" for personal use and >>homework. >>He is unable to control his anger & frustration and I tried very hard to >>explain that there were other, better options which he could use at home, >>including purchasing DNS on his own, purchasing a portable speech-to-text >>recorder which is a lot more portable. IMHO, the control, both of having >>to think in grammatically correct English and of the voice itself would >>exacerbate >>the OCD and not work well with this student. >> >>Any suggestions from you wise ones? >> >>Blessings, >> >>Wink >> >>Ms. Wink Harner >>Manager >>Disability Resources & Services >>Mesa Community College >>Mesa AZ >> >>480-461-7447 >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Athen mailing list >>Athen@athenpro.org >>http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Athen mailing list >>Athen@athenpro.org >>http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > >Ms. Wink Harner >Manager >Disability Resources & Services >Mesa Community College >Mesa AZ > >480-461-7447 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From edward at ngtvoice.com Fri Jun 27 13:08:15 2008 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] A Dragon question In-Reply-To: <485D76DB00000A6A@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> References: <017a01c8d881$a4e91a60$e8017112@mit.edu> <485D76DB00000A6A@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <007c01c8d891$8a39cb00$9ead6100$@com> If you wanted to use Microsoft technology to test drive speech recognition I would encourage you to try to use a Vista PC. The speech recognition built into the Vista operating system is significantly better than that which was provided with the office XP application. It would probably give your user a better chance to "evaluate", and the same for you as well. Edward S. Rosenthal, President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies Inc. 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, WA 98036 Phone: 425-744-1100 extension 15; Fax: 425-778-5547 E-Mail: edward@ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 WWW: http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document was generated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking ver. 9 speech recognition technology with the revolutionary x-Tag wireless microphone from revolabs. Please disregard any remaining misrecognitions. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:09 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] A Dragon question Hi all, In the interest of quick, no-cost solutions, Deb Fitzgibbons of TEXTHELP suggested he try the speech to text technology built into Office XP on his own first. We might try that suggestion, have him report back, then refer him to the lab. Just a thought --it's about 112 today, so the brains are sort of fried. Wink >-- Original Message -- >From: "Mary J. Ziegler" >To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" >Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:14:30 -0400 >Subject: Re: [Athen] A Dragon question >Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > >Wink, > >I agree with Gaier, but would add that we have, on occasion, made it clear > >to students that they may use the AT lab initially only on a trial or >temporary basis in order to try out a technology. After an agreed upon > >period of time, we request that they check back with us and review if the > >solution is working for them or not. If it is, we allow them to continue > >to use the lab, but if it's not, we have a chance to suggest an alternative. > >Good luck, >Mary > >Mary J. Ziegler >Team Leader, Adaptive Technology Services >MIT Information Services and Technology (IS&T) >ATIC Lab Room 7-143 >617-258-9328 >maryz@mit.edu > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Wink Harner" >To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" >Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:51 PM >Subject: Re: [Athen] A Dragon question > > >Thanks Gaier. Appreciate the advice. I think I will prepare my AT staff in >advance for how to work with him in the lab. I made some other >recommendations >(well, I thought they were good!) for alternatives, but he wanted nothing >to do with anything else. > >Will keep you (all) posted. > >Thanks again, > >Wink > >>-- Original Message -- >>From: "Gaeir Dietrich" >>To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" >> >>Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:03:43 -0700 >>Subject: Re: [Athen] A Dragon question >>Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> >> >> >>You are absolutely correct in all that you say...and my advice, let him >use >>it anyway. Odds are he'll fail very quickly, and that will be the end of >>it. >>He'll move on to the next great idea. >> >>Any other course of action on your part, and you become "the problem." >> >>Just my two cents. ;-) >> >>****************************************************** >>Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich >>High Tech Center Training Unit of the >>California Community Colleges >>De Anza College, Cupertino, CA >>www.htctu.net >>408-996-6043 >>-----Original Message----- >>From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >>Behalf Of Wink Harner >>Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 AM >>To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; ATHEN >>Subject: [Athen] A Dragon question >> >>Hi all, >> >>This is a question about DNS use as appropriate accommodation, not a >>technical >>question. A student has multiple disorders including OCD & inability to >>control >>his voice. He is demanding Dragon Naturally Speaking [which would be >>limited >>to use in our adaptive lab where it is loaded --an 8-station lab in the >>library >>with other people working/talking/using computers]. I explained how one >has >>to speak in grammatically correct (more or less) English and be able to >>control >>tone & pitch reasonably well with the voice in order to receive optimum >>output >>& recognition. He is not asking for this as an accommodation, nor does he >>have any documentation that would necessarily support it as an >>accommodation, >>but rather he wants to have it for "taking notes" for personal use and >>homework. >>He is unable to control his anger & frustration and I tried very hard to >>explain that there were other, better options which he could use at home, >>including purchasing DNS on his own, purchasing a portable speech-to-text >>recorder which is a lot more portable. IMHO, the control, both of having >>to think in grammatically correct English and of the voice itself would >>exacerbate >>the OCD and not work well with this student. >> >>Any suggestions from you wise ones? >> >>Blessings, >> >>Wink >> >>Ms. Wink Harner >>Manager >>Disability Resources & Services >>Mesa Community College >>Mesa AZ >> >>480-461-7447 >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Athen mailing list >>Athen@athenpro.org >>http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Athen mailing list >>Athen@athenpro.org >>http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > >Ms. Wink Harner >Manager >Disability Resources & Services >Mesa Community College >Mesa AZ > >480-461-7447 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Clark.Hochstetler at unlv.edu Fri Jun 27 16:02:03 2008 From: Clark.Hochstetler at unlv.edu (Clark.Hochstetler@unlv.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Clark Hochstetler is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 06/26/2008 and will not return until 07/07/2008. Sorry I am not available. I will respond to your message when I return. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Sat Jun 28 15:44:32 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reverse BRF Translator Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080628154321.02270180@pop.gmail.com> Hi: Is there a utility open source or a reasonably priced commercial package that would take a BRF file format document and translate it back to TXT RTF or DOC?? Norm EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 From john.gardner at orst.edu Sat Jun 28 16:58:34 2008 From: john.gardner at orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reverse BRF Translator In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20080628154321.02270180@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20080628154321.02270180@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001801c8d97a$e02ecc60$6468a8c0@johnz> Hi Norm, liblouis does back translation, although I don't know how robust it is at present. The forward translation in English is excellent. It's all open source. Have a look at https://liblouis.googlecode.com -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:45 PM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Reverse BRF Translator Hi: Is there a utility open source or a reasonably priced commercial package that would take a BRF file format document and translate it back to TXT RTF or DOC?? Norm EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From norm.coombs at gmail.com Sun Jun 29 20:34:00 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Five Webinars open to the public in the next 5 weeks Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080629203132.02279f50@pop.gmail.com> EASI is gearing up to provide a series of Webinars over the summer. Five of them are listed here, and more will be announced soon. We will also have a fall line-up of single Webinars and Webinar series to announce and post on the Webinar page. You can register for any of these five Webinars all of which are open to the public at: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm Those who register will get a link later to its archive EASI month-long online courses for July are: Barrier-free Web Design Barrier-free E-learning Read more and register online at: http://easi.cc/workshop.htm 1 Free Webinar: Providing and Managing Accessible PDF Documents Tue, July 8 at Noon Eastern Presenter: Paul Turenne from NetCentric Technologies Adobe has made great strides in designing the PDF document format itself and the tools to produce and read them much more friendly and accessible for users with disabilities, especially users of screen readers. The complexity of accessibility for a PDF document depends a lot on the complexity of the document. While Acrobat itself can create accessible documents, there are third party developers providing tools designed to assist the document creator with the process. NetCentric has products to help. One plugs into Acrobat. Another helps managers of large Websites to monitor and manage large numbers of PDF documents. This presentation will discuss NetCentric's efforts to help raise the level of PDF accessibility. Netcentric is also developing a plug-in for Word to make creating simple accessible PDF for those who do not own Acrobat itself. Watch for future announcements at (net-centric.com) CommonLook for Adobe Acrobat is a NetCentric plug-in test and remediation tool for Section 508 compliance. Its features include: dynamic drag and drop capability to remediate PDF structure, automated generation of speak text for tables and forms, visual manipulation of PDF structure (tables, lists, forms) enhanced support for table testing and remediation and automatic remediation of common problems such as text running together, repeated characters and hyphenation. PDF Enterprise Compliance Management Framework enables management and testers to effectively measure and manage the state of Section 508 compliance of their PDF holdings. It provides the spidering capability to automatically locate PDF documents on the enterprise's Website and manage PDF document 508 compliance. CommonLook for the Web is a Web testing product that applies section 508 standards to websites and identifies each instance of website non-compliance. In addition to accessibility testing, CommonLook checks for key quality and performance requirements, such as broken links, local links, forms, objectionable language and slow-loading pages. 2 Webinar Snapshot: Making Accessible Online Surveys Tue. July 8 at 2 PM EASTERN Presenter: Dick Banks Surveys and forms are a big part of Internet life. Users may choose to fill out a survey to help in a research project. Surveys are often created to help sellers determine what products may be of interest to customers. Visitors may want to answer questions in a poll and review the poll results to see how they match up with others. Surveys and polls can be detailed an complex and if they are not created with accessibility in mind, many with assistive technology are unable to participate. There are a number of online solutions to creating accessible forms, surveys and polls and they will be introduced to you in this Webinar snapshot. 3 Making the Move to Vista: Things You Need to Know Tuesday July 15 - 2PM EASTERN Presenter: Dick Banks Change in software often means improvement in performance, security and stability. Users of assistive technology want that as well but have to think about how friendly that software is to their assistive technology. If that software is the operating system, they need to think hard of making a change because the operating system is where everything starts. If the assistive technology user is forced to make a change because their job requires that they make change, it can be difficult. This Webinar looks at the basics of the Windows Vista operating system from the standpoint of the assistive technology user. 4 Webinar Snapshot: AMIS a Free Software DAISY Pllayer Wed. July 23 at 2 PM EASTERN Presenter: Norm Coombs The DAISY format will increasingly become the format for e-books in the near future because of its greatly enhanced document navigation. Remember that the Library of Congress National Library Service is transitioning to audio DAISY books replacing the current audio cassette format. NIMAS is a version of DAISY which is the format that publishers are using to provide electronic versions of text books for grades K-12. However, the DAISY documents require a special player to access them. There are a number of commercial hardware and software DAISY players. AMIS, (Adaptive Multimedia Information System), is a free software DAISY player which can be downloaded from (http://amis.sourceforge.net/) This snapshot will provide a very brief introduction to AMIS and will discuss installing it and describe its settings and functions. 5 Free Webinar on the Word-to-DAISY Add-in Tuesday August 7 at 2 PM Eastern Presenter: George Kerscher from the DAISY Consortium The new "Save as DAISY XML" add-in, designed for Microsoft Office Word 2007, Word 2003 and Word XP, will allow users to save Open XML-based text files into DAISY XML navigable books. It was created through an open source project with Microsoft, Sonata Software Ltd. and the Digital Accessible Information SYstem (DAISY) Consortium and can be downloaded by Microsoft Office Word users for free at http://www.openxmlcommunity.org/daisy. This XML output can then be processed through the DAISY Pipeline, a free downloadable transformation suite that supports the seamless conversion of DAISY XML into DAISY Digital Talking Book (DTB) format. Together these technologies provide a comprehensive solution for converting text documents into accessible formats for people with print disabilities. Users can download the DAISY Pipeline from the DAISY Project page at http://www.daisy.org/projects/pipeline/. You can register for any of these five Webinars all of which are open to the public at: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm Those who register will get a link later to its archive Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com From saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu Mon Jun 30 06:07:33 2008 From: saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu (Saroj Primlani) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Brl back translators In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000d01c8dab2$429fec70$61c10798@sarojnewlaptop> Norm, NemeTex by AsscesiSoft http://www.accessisoft.com/ used to cost under $ 100 Transbraille (WInSight) by Logical Software http://www.logicalsoft.net/index.html, I think the price was around $ 560 BackNem and BackLit from Braille2print.org http://braille2print.org/backnem2.htm which is in alpha test and shows great promise. All three can handle text and Nemeth code Saroj _________________________________ Saroj Primlani Coordinator of University IT Accessibility Office of Information Technology 919 513 4087 http://ncsu.edu/it/access -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 3:00 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 29, Issue 30 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Reverse BRF Translator (Prof Norm Coombs) 2. Re: Reverse BRF Translator (John Gardner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:44:32 -0700 From: Prof Norm Coombs Subject: [Athen] Reverse BRF Translator To: "athen-athenpro.org" Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080628154321.02270180@pop.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi: Is there a utility open source or a reasonably priced commercial package that would take a BRF file format document and translate it back to TXT RTF or DOC?? Norm EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:58:34 -0700 From: "John Gardner" Subject: Re: [Athen] Reverse BRF Translator To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <001801c8d97a$e02ecc60$6468a8c0@johnz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Norm, liblouis does back translation, although I don't know how robust it is at present. The forward translation in English is excellent. It's all open source. Have a look at https://liblouis.googlecode.com -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:45 PM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Reverse BRF Translator Hi: Is there a utility open source or a reasonably priced commercial package that would take a BRF file format document and translate it back to TXT RTF or DOC?? Norm EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 29, Issue 30 ************************************* From johumber at iupui.edu Mon Jun 30 06:46:22 2008 From: johumber at iupui.edu (Humbert, Joseph A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blind low-vision student needs to take physics class Message-ID: Hi All! Have any of you ever had a blind/ low-vision student take a physics class? We have a professor who wants this student to do independent work which includes measuring and testing. There might be some physics related software. Any suggestions on what works? Types of Assistive technology we could get to help the student? Joe Humbert Assistive Technology Specialist Adaptive Technology Center (ATC) Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI) Office: IT 214E Email: johumber@iupui.edu Phone: 317-274-4378 Cell: 847-431-6545 AIM:ATCIUPUI -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edward at ngtvoice.com Mon Jun 30 07:07:26 2008 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blind low-vision student needs to take physics class In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002101c8daba$a19751c0$e4c5f540$@com> You may want to look at MacKichan's Scientific Notebook http://www.mackichan.com/ .I believe the folks at MetroPlex computing have a full interface using Dragon Pro, and they may have a low-vision/blind solution as well http://www.metroplexvoice.com/ .-ed. Edward S. Rosenthal President and CEO Next Generation Technologies, Inc. (NGT Inc.) 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 Lynnwood, Wa. 998036-6334 Ph: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 Fx: 425-778-5547 Skype: ed.rosenthal7 EM: edward@ngtvoice.com http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document may have been dictated with speech recognition software. Please disregard any remaining miscrecognitions. 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URL: From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Mon Jun 30 07:37:47 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blind low-vision student needs to take physics class In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <485D76DB00000C40@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Hi Joe, Have you checked the resources at Univ. of Washington? Here's the link: http://www.washington.edu/diversity/resources.html Go to the section for Faculty & Staff Resources. There is a goldmine of freeware & technological solutions for math & physics for students who are Blind or VI. Blessings, Wink >-- Original Message -- >From: "Humbert, Joseph A" >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:46:22 -0400 >Subject: [Athen] Blind low-vision student needs to take physics class >Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > >Hi All! > >Have any of you ever had a blind/ low-vision student take a physics class? > We have a professor who wants this student to do independent work which >includes measuring and testing. There might be some physics related software. > Any suggestions on what works? Types of Assistive technology we could get >to help the student? > >Joe Humbert >Assistive Technology Specialist >Adaptive Technology Center (ATC) >Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI) >Office: IT 214E >Email: johumber@iupui.edu >Phone: 317-274-4378 >Cell: 847-431-6545 >AIM:ATCIUPUI > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Jun 30 08:08:12 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Brl back translators In-Reply-To: <000d01c8dab2$429fec70$61c10798@sarojnewlaptop> References: <000d01c8dab2$429fec70$61c10798@sarojnewlaptop> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080630080703.02336190@pop.gmail.com> Thank you. I sometimes get Web Braille from the Library of Congress. The bookport will read them, but mine is showing signs of dying. I may get a Stream instead but it won't do the BRF. At 06:07 AM 6/30/2008, you wrote: > >Norm, >NemeTex by AsscesiSoft http://www.accessisoft.com/ used to cost under $ 100 >Transbraille (WInSight) by Logical Software >http://www.logicalsoft.net/index.html, I think the price was around $ 560 >BackNem and BackLit from Braille2print.org >http://braille2print.org/backnem2.htm which is in alpha test and shows great >promise. All three can handle text and Nemeth code > >Saroj > >_________________________________ >Saroj Primlani >Coordinator of University IT Accessibility >Office of Information Technology >919 513 4087 >http://ncsu.edu/it/access > > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org >Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 3:00 PM >To: athen@athenpro.org >Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 29, Issue 30 > >Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >"Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Reverse BRF Translator (Prof Norm Coombs) > 2. Re: Reverse BRF Translator (John Gardner) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:44:32 -0700 >From: Prof Norm Coombs >Subject: [Athen] Reverse BRF Translator >To: "athen-athenpro.org" >Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080628154321.02270180@pop.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >Hi: > >Is there a utility open source or a reasonably priced commercial package >that would take a BRF file format document and translate it back to TXT RTF >or DOC?? > >Norm > > >EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm >"What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 > >EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: >Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the >Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm > >Norman Coombs, Ph.D. >CEO EASI http://easi.cc >Laguna Hills CA 92653 > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:58:34 -0700 >From: "John Gardner" >Subject: Re: [Athen] Reverse BRF Translator >To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > >Message-ID: <001801c8d97a$e02ecc60$6468a8c0@johnz> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Hi Norm, liblouis does back translation, although I don't know how robust it >is at present. The forward translation in English is excellent. It's all >open source. > >Have a look at >https://liblouis.googlecode.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs >Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:45 PM >To: athen-athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] Reverse BRF Translator > >Hi: > >Is there a utility open source or a reasonably priced commercial package >that would take a BRF file format document and translate it back to TXT RTF >or DOC?? > >Norm > > >EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm >"What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 > >EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: >Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the >Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm > >Norman Coombs, Ph.D. >CEO EASI http://easi.cc >Laguna Hills CA 92653 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >End of Athen Digest, Vol 29, Issue 30 >************************************* > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 From danc at washington.edu Mon Jun 30 09:22:28 2008 From: danc at washington.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Today is last day to submit for ATIA! Message-ID: Hello ATHEN folks Today's the last day to submit for the ATIA conference, next January 28-31 in Orlando. I highly recommend this conference. Information on submission at http://atia.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3495 -*- Dan Comden danc@washington.edu Access Technology Lab www.washington.edu/computing/atl University of Washington UW Technology Services From skeegan at htctu.net Mon Jun 30 11:05:07 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blind low-vision student needs to take physics class In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002801c8dadb$d51909a0$7f4b1ce0$@net> > We have a professor who wants this student to do independent work which > includes measuring and testing. There might be some physics related software. > Any suggestions on what works? Types of Assistive technology we could get to > help the student? Some quick thoughts off the top of my head: - Have you seen the PIVoT project at the NCAM website? It is an online interactive physics resource that was designed to be accessible. It is a few years old, but (fortunately), basic physics has not changed much in the past few years. URL: http://ncam.wgbh.org/webaccess/pivot/index.html - Do you have access to the Audio Graphing Calculator? If studying kinematics (displacement/velocity/acceleration), then the AGC may be an option to consider when analyzing the relationship between these variables (e.g., changes in the slope of curve when moving between displacement/velocity/acceleration). URL: http://www.viewplus.com/products/braille-math/AGC/ - Have you worked with MathTrax before? MathTrax is a graphing tool that allows for physics simulations as well as plotting data. It was designed for middle and high school physics, but has some additional components that may be useful for your situation. URL: http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/MathTrax/index.html These are just some thoughts and may or may not be appropriate depending on what the professor wants the student to learn or the measuring/testing activities. The one upside with physics is that you can use a lot of physical objects or tactile representations to demonstrate concepts. Take care, sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Jun 30 16:41:46 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Brl back translators In-Reply-To: <000d01c8dab2$429fec70$61c10798@sarojnewlaptop> References: <000d01c8dab2$429fec70$61c10798@sarojnewlaptop> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080630164117.0230d830@pop.gmail.com> Hi Victor stream just announced it will play brf so I guess I don't need one now. At 06:07 AM 6/30/2008, you wrote: > >Norm, >NemeTex by AsscesiSoft http://www.accessisoft.com/ used to cost under $ 100 >Transbraille (WInSight) by Logical Software >http://www.logicalsoft.net/index.html, I think the price was around $ 560 >BackNem and BackLit from Braille2print.org >http://braille2print.org/backnem2.htm which is in alpha test and shows great >promise. All three can handle text and Nemeth code > >Saroj > >_________________________________ >Saroj Primlani >Coordinator of University IT Accessibility >Office of Information Technology >919 513 4087 >http://ncsu.edu/it/access > > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org >Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 3:00 PM >To: athen@athenpro.org >Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 29, Issue 30 > >Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >"Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Reverse BRF Translator (Prof Norm Coombs) > 2. Re: Reverse BRF Translator (John Gardner) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:44:32 -0700 >From: Prof Norm Coombs >Subject: [Athen] Reverse BRF Translator >To: "athen-athenpro.org" >Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080628154321.02270180@pop.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >Hi: > >Is there a utility open source or a reasonably priced commercial package >that would take a BRF file format document and translate it back to TXT RTF >or DOC?? > >Norm > > >EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm >"What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 > >EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: >Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the >Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm > >Norman Coombs, Ph.D. >CEO EASI http://easi.cc >Laguna Hills CA 92653 > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:58:34 -0700 >From: "John Gardner" >Subject: Re: [Athen] Reverse BRF Translator >To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" > >Message-ID: <001801c8d97a$e02ecc60$6468a8c0@johnz> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Hi Norm, liblouis does back translation, although I don't know how robust it >is at present. The forward translation in English is excellent. It's all >open source. > >Have a look at >https://liblouis.googlecode.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs >Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:45 PM >To: athen-athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] Reverse BRF Translator > >Hi: > >Is there a utility open source or a reasonably priced commercial package >that would take a BRF file format document and translate it back to TXT RTF >or DOC?? > >Norm > > >EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm >"What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 > >EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: >Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the >Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm > >Norman Coombs, Ph.D. >CEO EASI http://easi.cc >Laguna Hills CA 92653 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >End of Athen Digest, Vol 29, Issue 30 >************************************* > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Jun 30 16:42:31 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reverse BRF Translator In-Reply-To: <001801c8d97a$e02ecc60$6468a8c0@johnz> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20080628154321.02270180@pop.gmail.com> <001801c8d97a$e02ecc60$6468a8c0@johnz> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080630164205.0230d830@pop.gmail.com> Thanks John. Turns out the stream will as of today handle those files. At 04:58 PM 6/28/2008, you wrote: >Hi Norm, liblouis does back translation, although I don't know how robust it >is at present. The forward translation in English is excellent. It's all >open source. > >Have a look at >https://liblouis.googlecode.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs >Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:45 PM >To: athen-athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] Reverse BRF Translator > >Hi: > >Is there a utility open source or a reasonably priced commercial package >that would take a BRF file format document and translate it back to TXT RTF >or DOC?? > >Norm > > >EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm >"What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 > >EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: >Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the >Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm > >Norman Coombs, Ph.D. >CEO EASI http://easi.cc >Laguna Hills CA 92653 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org EASI Webinars http://easi.cc/clinic.htm "What You See Is What You Get" Web Design a 4-part Webinar Series April 8 EASI April Online Month-long, Courses starting April 7: Accessible Internet Multimedia: Podcasts, Vodcasts and Streaming Train the Trainer http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Norman Coombs, Ph.D. CEO EASI http://easi.cc Laguna Hills CA 92653 From skeegan at htctu.net Mon Jun 30 17:29:38 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] help with JAWS 9 Message-ID: <003e01c8db11$8c2b15e0$a48141a0$@net> Has anyone been able to configure JAWS 9 to read an image's text description in MS Word? If so, could you please forward the process you used? I know I have done it in the past, but for some reason I am completely unable to get the settings correct to make this happen. I am using JAWS 9 and Office 2003 and Office 2007. Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Web Accessibility Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges