From mcnameeb at wit.edu Thu May 1 11:20:36 2008 From: mcnameeb at wit.edu (McNamee, Bridget) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Translation Software/Other Tools Message-ID: <823FE16A6E5CEC4C8E0CE54670D07C9B02B7FB00@EVS2.wit.private> Hello All, A professor approached me with an interesting problem. He has a student who is set to graduate next spring who is in jeopardy of failing his course. The student disclosed that he has a hard time understanding course lectures due to a language barrier (his native language is Korean). The professor is confident that the student could be successful if he had a way to translate the lectures into his native language. Does anyone know of any tools/resources that could help this student? Thanks! Bridget Bridget McNamee Disability Outreach Specialist Wentworth Institute of Technology 550 Huntington Avenue Boston, MA 02115-4998 (617) 989-4544 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeano at uwm.edu Thu May 1 12:19:17 2008 From: jeano at uwm.edu (Jean Salzer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <481A17B5.6070106@uwm.edu> I know of no such software. Perhaps the United Nations has something?? There is a lot of interpreting that goes on there. Legally, there is nothing the institution is required to do. There must be someone else in the Boston area who could interpret for this person. I mean, the instructor could provide a recording of his lecture, the student could meet with an interpreter, etc. My 2 cents. athen-request@athenpro.org wrote: > Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Translation Software/Other Tools (McNamee, Bridget) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:20:36 -0400 > From: "McNamee, Bridget" > Subject: [Athen] Translation Software/Other Tools > To: > Message-ID: > <823FE16A6E5CEC4C8E0CE54670D07C9B02B7FB00@EVS2.wit.private> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello All, > > A professor approached me with an interesting problem. He has a > student who is set to graduate next spring who is in jeopardy of failing > his course. The student disclosed that he has a hard time understanding > course lectures due to a language barrier (his native language is > Korean). The professor is confident that the student could be > successful if he had a way to translate the lectures into his native > language. Does anyone know of any tools/resources that could help this > student? > > Thanks! > > Bridget > > > > Bridget McNamee > > Disability Outreach Specialist > > Wentworth Institute of Technology > > 550 Huntington Avenue > > Boston, MA 02115-4998 > > (617) 989-4544 > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080501/4af903c3/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 > ************************************ > > -- Peace. Jean Salzer, Sr. Counselor BVI Program/Alternative Text Coordinator Student Accessibility Center UW-Milwaukee 414-229-5660, Mitchell Hall B16 ******************************************** NOTICE TO RECEPIENT: This email and any attachments, contains information that is, or may be, covered by electronic communications privacy laws and the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA). If this email contains any student specific data or information, these laws apply. If you are NOT the intended recepient(s) of this email, please disregard the content, delete the email message and notify the original sender. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jeano.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 291 bytes Desc: not available URL: From edward at ngtvoice.com Thu May 1 12:20:19 2008 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Translation Software/Other Tools In-Reply-To: <823FE16A6E5CEC4C8E0CE54670D07C9B02B7FB00@EVS2.wit.private> References: <823FE16A6E5CEC4C8E0CE54670D07C9B02B7FB00@EVS2.wit.private> Message-ID: <200805011920.m41JKMdF006064@mail2535.carrierzone.com> You may want to consider visiting the Systran website. The URL is: www.systransoft.com several years ago we worked with their machine translation technologies with some good degree of success. I'm not sure if they are supporting Korean, but it would be a good starting point. -ed. Edward S. Rosenthal, President and CEO, Next Generation Technologies Inc. 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101, Lynnwood, WA 98036 Phone: 425-744-1100 extension 15; Fax: 425-778-5547 E-Mail: edward@ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 WWW: http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document was generated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking ver. 9 speech recognition technology with the revolutionary xTag wireless microphone from revolabs. Please disregard any remaining misrecognitions. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of McNamee, Bridget Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:21 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Translation Software/Other Tools Hello All, A professor approached me with an interesting problem. He has a student who is set to graduate next spring who is in jeopardy of failing his course. The student disclosed that he has a hard time understanding course lectures due to a language barrier (his native language is Korean). The professor is confident that the student could be successful if he had a way to translate the lectures into his native language. Does anyone know of any tools/resources that could help this student? Thanks! Bridget Bridget McNamee Disability Outreach Specialist Wentworth Institute of Technology 550 Huntington Avenue Boston, MA 02115-4998 (617) 989-4544 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdausch at notes.cc.sunysb.edu Thu May 1 13:14:46 2008 From: gdausch at notes.cc.sunysb.edu (gdausch@notes.cc.sunysb.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] transferring voice files for dragon Message-ID: Hello, Does anyone have suggestions on how best to transfer voice files from dragon 8 to dragon 9? Thank you, Glenn Glenn Dausch Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Support Services 128 Educational Communications Center Stony Brook University Stony Brook, NY 11794-2662 631 632 6548 From mike_denne at wvm.edu Thu May 1 13:45:58 2008 From: mike_denne at wvm.edu (mike_denne@wvm.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] transferring voice files for dragon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3610.10.1.173.24.1209674758.squirrel@webmail.wvmccd.cc.ca.us> Glenn, It's real easy. I saved 'em to a flash drive and moved them to another machine. When Dragon is open and the toolbar is visible, just go to the green tab farthest on the left -- speaking, I think -- then to manage users, then to advanced, then to export, and tell it where you want them. Remember to have highlighted the user for whom you are exporting files. Mike > Hello, > Does anyone have suggestions on how best to transfer voice files from > dragon 8 to dragon 9? > > Thank you, > > Glenn > > Glenn Dausch > Assistive Technology Specialist > Disability Support Services > 128 Educational Communications Center > Stony Brook University > Stony Brook, NY 11794-2662 > 631 632 6548 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From edward at ngtvoice.com Thu May 1 16:08:34 2008 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] transferring voice files for dragon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003201c8abe0$538a84b0$fa9f8e10$@com> I've included info below on how to transfer profiles from A to B. However, you may be asking how to 'upgrade' a user from 8 to 9. If that's the case before you install the DNS 9 software follow the export info to put a copy of the user on the desktop. That way if something untoward happens when doing the upgrade you don't risk the user profile. When you install DSN 9 it will find the existing users and ask if you want to upgrade; then you can upgrade the exisiting 8 users as you do the 9 software install/upgrade. To export a user 1. On the NaturallySpeaking menu of the DragonBar, click Manage Users. 2. On the Manage Users dialog box, select a user, activate the Advanced button and activate Export on the Advanced button submenu. 3. Use the Browse For Folder dialog box to find a location for the exported user files and activate OK. To import a user 1. On the NaturallySpeaking menu of the DragonBar, click Manage Users. 2. On the Manage Users dialog box, click the Advanced button and click Import on the Advanced button menu. 3. Use the Browse For Folder dialog box to locate the user files you want to import and click OK. -ed. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of gdausch@notes.cc.sunysb.edu Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:15 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] transferring voice files for dragon Hello, Does anyone have suggestions on how best to transfer voice files from dragon 8 to dragon 9? Thank you, Glenn Glenn Dausch Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Support Services 128 Educational Communications Center Stony Brook University Stony Brook, NY 11794-2662 631 632 6548 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From tft at u.washington.edu Fri May 2 10:14:32 2008 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Two more weeks to complete the Access Technology Survey! Message-ID: <200805021714.m42HEXZR024422@smtp.washington.edu> Hi all, This is a note of thanks to all who have participated in the ATHEN Survey on Accessibility Technology in Higher Education, and a reminder to those who haven't that the deadline for doing so is Friday, May 16. By participating in the survey, you'll be helping to provide us all with a better sense of the state of technology accessibility in higher education: What colleges and universities are doing to address their technology accessibility needs, which assistive technologies they're deploying and how, how accessibility staff positions are structured and compensated, and much more. I think those of you in the access technology profession know how valuable this information will be. Here is the number of institutions that have started or completed the survey so far, by country: Australia 1 Canada 1 Republic of Ireland 5 South Africa 1 United Kingdom 16 United States 5 Please help by completing the survey, and by circulating the following announcement far and wide. Thank you! Terry -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:47 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] 2008 Survey on Accessible Technology in Higher Ed Please help to spread the word! The Access Technology Higher Education Network (ATHEN) is conducting a survey regarding higher education institutions' practices, procedures, and policies for addressing information technology accessibility needs of students. The last survey of its kind was conducted in 2004. Since accessibility is often the responsibility of many groups and individuals across campus, this survey has been divided into the following six sections: 1. Assistive Technology Products - to be completed by the person most knowledgeable of assistive technologies that are available to students at your institution. 2. Information Technology Accessibility - to be completed by the person most knowledgeable of procurement policies and/or procedures related to accessibility of information technology at your institution. 3. Web Accessibility - to be completed by the person most knowledgeable of web accessibility efforts at your institution. 4. Multimedia Accessibility - to be completed by the person most knowledgeable of efforts to ensure multimedia (video, podcasts, etc.) is accessible at your institution. 5. Alternative Format Production - to be completed by the person most knowledgeable of practices and procedures for providing print materials in alternate formats for students at your institution. 6. Staffing and Salaries - to be completed by the person most knowledgeable of position descriptions, salaries, qualifications, etc. for all positions whose primary focus is assistive technology or IT accessibility at your institution. Alternatively this section can be completed by individual staff members regarding their own positions. Please coordinate completion of this section with others from your institution. With the exception of Section 1 (Assistive Technology Products), each section of the survey is brief, and is expected to require approximately 10 minutes to complete. Section 1 is expected to require approximately 30 minutes to complete. Please help us by (a) completing any sections that are applicable to your position, and/or (b) recruiting the best people at your institution to complete the sections that apply to them. All survey participants will need to create an individual account in order to participate. The survey is located here: http://www.athenpro.org/survey/ The deadline for participating in the survey is Friday, May 16. Results will be published in the upcoming ATHEN e-Journal, and will be announced first in my pre-conference session at the AHEAD Conference, Monday July 14 in Reno. My session, co-facilitated with Lyla Crawford of the University of Washington, is titled "Creating Intersections that Connect Students with Disabilities and High-Tech Careers". This is an all-day Capacity Building Institute, and there will be plenty of opportunities to discuss the implications of the survey results. There's more information here: http://www.ahead.org/training/conference/2008/precon.php If you have questions, please let me know. Thanks to all for your help! Terry Terry Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 From pratikp1 at gmail.com Mon May 5 04:41:54 2008 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Testers for Mac DAISY playback software interface needed Message-ID: <001401c8aea5$06269d90$1273d8b0$@com> Please contact Greg directly if anyone is interested. -----Original Message----- From: Greg Kearney [mailto:gkearney@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:00 AM To: macvoiceover; Technical Developments Discussion List Subject: Testers for Mac DAISY playback software interface needed I am looking for people to look over an early version of the GUI. It will not play books at this point but you should be able to use the GUI with VoiceOver, press the buttons and have them say what they will do and so on. Any takers? Greg Kearney 535 S. Jackson St. Casper, Wyoming 82601 307-224-4022 gkearney@gmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to technical-developments as: pratikp1@gmail.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-technical-developments-5167I@mail.daisy.org From kellers at cahs.colostate.edu Mon May 5 12:05:34 2008 From: kellers at cahs.colostate.edu (Keller,Sherri) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon in Excel Message-ID: Does anyone know where to locate a thorough tutorial for using Dragon in MS Excel? We have a staff member that uses Excel for data entry. She needs it to be very fast, have the ability to create formulas and switch between charts. Everything I have found off the word website is helpful but it would be helpful to see a demo or a guide that would walk us through the commands step by step. Thanks! 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Nick Baker Assistive Technology Coordinator nick.baker@umontana.edu 406-243-2234 (Voice/TTY) 406-243-2663 (Voice only) Disability Services for Students The University of Montana EL 154 32 Campus Drive Missoula, MT 59812 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 5:42 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'; 'Alternate Media' Subject: [Athen] FW: Testers for Mac DAISY playback software interface needed Please contact Greg directly if anyone is interested. -----Original Message----- From: Greg Kearney [mailto:gkearney@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:00 AM To: macvoiceover; Technical Developments Discussion List Subject: Testers for Mac DAISY playback software interface needed I am looking for people to look over an early version of the GUI. It will not play books at this point but you should be able to use the GUI with VoiceOver, press the buttons and have them say what they will do and so on. Any takers? Greg Kearney 535 S. Jackson St. Casper, Wyoming 82601 307-224-4022 gkearney@gmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to technical-developments as: pratikp1@gmail.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-technical-developments-5167I@mail.daisy.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From gdietrich at htctu.net Mon May 5 18:08:29 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Job announcement Message-ID: <021401c8af15$b2670890$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> SOLANO COMMUNITY COLLEGE FACULTY EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY DSP ASSISTIVE COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTRUCTOR Applications Accepted CONTINUOUSLY Job #F08-50 MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS: A master's degree, or equivalent foreign degree, in the category of disability, special education, education counseling. 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Human Resources hours are Monday - Thursday 8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. Friday, 8:00 a.m. - 3:00 p.m. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 28190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Mon May 5 20:27:48 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon in Excel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <479AE6BF0000D3DD@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Hi Sherri, I found a resource for you...email me offline & I'll send the attachment. Here is the webpage for the resource: http://www.zephyr-tec.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=Z&Product_Code=1-3020&Category_Code=S1 It's a real live training guide for dragon & excel. Best to check for current edition. Good luck & let me know if you need more info. Blessings, Wink >-- Original Message -- >From: "Keller,Sherri" >To: "'athen@athenpro.org'" >Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 13:05:34 -0600 >Subject: [Athen] Dragon in Excel >Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > >Does anyone know where to locate a thorough tutorial for using Dragon in >MS Excel? > >We have a staff member that uses Excel for data entry. She needs it to be >very fast, have the ability to create formulas and switch between charts. >Everything I have found off the word website is helpful but it would be helpful >to see a demo or a guide that would walk us through the commands step by >step. > >Thanks! > >Sherri Keller MS/OTR >Assistive Technology Resource Center >Department of Occupational Therapy >Fort Collins, CO 80523 > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From hascherdss at gmail.com Tue May 6 10:45:00 2008 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Student Voice Portal Message-ID: <6e0d34c90805061045o3cddf351s4e0a707c1a366cc8@mail.gmail.com> Our university is looking at goingiwth Student Voice Programs - an integrated assessment. According to a PowerPoint presentation they offered to our VC of Student Affairs, they list a broad range of schools currently using Student Voice, including: Cal States (7 listed), OK Univ, Ohio State University, Colorado State Univ, UC-Boulder. Can anyone give me your opinion on this software and accessibility/inaccessibility? Many thanks to all! Heidi -- Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Interim Assistant Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 (479) 575-3104 (voice) (479) 575-7445 (fax) (479) 575-3646 (tty) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Tue May 6 11:06:03 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Student Voice Portal Message-ID: <20080506120603.ADS91233@superman.int.colorado.edu> Hi Heidi, Actually, it's on my list to check the site for accessibility. I should be doing this in the next few days. I'll let you know what I find out. -Howard ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 12:45:00 -0500 >From: "Heidi Scher" >Subject: [Athen] Student Voice Portal >To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" > > Our university is looking at goingiwth Student Voice > Programs - an integrated assessment. > According to a PowerPoint presentation they offered to our VC of Student Affairs, they list a broad range of schools currently using Student Voice, including: Cal States (7 listed), OK Univ, Ohio State University, Colorado State Univ, UC-Boulder. Can > anyone give me your opinion on this software and > accessibility/inaccessibility? > > Many thanks to all! > Heidi > > -- > > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Interim Assistant Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > (479) 575-3104 (voice) > (479) 575-7445 (fax) > (479) 575-3646 (tty) >________________ >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From hascherdss at gmail.com Tue May 6 11:51:34 2008 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Student Voice Portal In-Reply-To: <20080506120603.ADS91233@superman.int.colorado.edu> References: <20080506120603.ADS91233@superman.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <6e0d34c90805061151k10bfa3edx21e9633369871018@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, Howard!! Heidi On 5/6/08, Howard Kramer wrote: > > Hi Heidi, > > Actually, it's on my list to check the site for accessibility. I should be > doing this in the next few days. I'll let you know what I find out. > > -Howard > > > ---- Original message ---- > >Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 12:45:00 -0500 > >From: "Heidi Scher" > >Subject: [Athen] Student Voice Portal > >To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" < > athen@athenpro.org> > > > > Our university is looking at goingiwth Student Voice > > Programs - an integrated assessment. > > According to a PowerPoint presentation they offered to our VC of > Student Affairs, they list a broad range of schools currently using Student > Voice, including: Cal States (7 listed), OK Univ, Ohio State University, > Colorado State Univ, UC-Boulder. Can > > anyone give me your opinion on this software and > > accessibility/inaccessibility? > > > > Many thanks to all! > > Heidi > > > > -- > > > > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > > Interim Assistant Director > > Center for Educational Access > > University of Arkansas > > 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 104 > > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > > (479) 575-3104 (voice) > > (479) 575-7445 (fax) > > (479) 575-3646 (tty) > > >________________ > >_______________________________________________ > >Athen mailing list > >Athen@athenpro.org > >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm thinking I will still have to use Publisher to make the entire book into one file. Am I correct in thinking that the new plug in is for vision impaired users to take an average MS Word doc and convert it to a DAISY format and that it is not for use in producing textbooks? I recently increased our licences of Producer and Publisher and my administrator is now asking why. I realize this is all new, but I would appreciate any insight on how this will impact us. Thanks, Tom Whalen Assistant Coordinator Educational Access Services Mesa State College 1100 North Avenue Grand Junction, CO 81504 970-248-1801 From rblee at gw.fis.ncsu.edu Wed May 7 10:04:49 2008 From: rblee at gw.fis.ncsu.edu (Ricky Lee) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Save as DAISY XML In-Reply-To: <4821808B020000CF0001E63C@gwmail.mesastate.edu> References: <4821808B020000CF0001E63C@gwmail.mesastate.edu> Message-ID: <4821A8F0.F543.0078.1@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> http://www.yourdolphin.com/index.asp?id=149 >>> On 5/7/2008 at 12:12 PM, in message <4821808B020000CF0001E63C@gwmail.mesastate.edu>, "Tom Whalen" wrote: Hello, The new release of Microsoft's new plug in has me a bit confused. My superiors (the ones who think DAISY is a flower) believe this is an end all solution to our alternate production needs. I am a bit more cautious. I have become a big fan of Dolphin's Producer and Publisher, as I use Producer to convert a book a chapter at a time, because it is easier to train staff and I can also retain the page numbers, as opposed to building the whole book from scratch in Publisher. I need to clarify to administration the difference on what I am doing now, compared to what I will be able to do with the save as DAISY plug in. Will I still have to add headings to the average MS Word doc? Will the plug in do the same thing as Dolphin's Producer? I'm thinking I will still have to use Publisher to make the entire book into one file. Am I correct in thinking that the new plug in is for vision impaired users to take an average MS Word doc and convert it to a DAISY format and that it is not for use in producing textbooks? I recently increased our licences of Producer and Publisher and my administrator is now asking why. I realize this is all new, but I would appreciate any insight on how this will impact us. Thanks, Tom Whalen Assistant Coordinator Educational Access Services Mesa State College 1100 North Avenue Grand Junction, CO 81504 970-248-1801 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjohnson at htctu.net Wed May 7 12:43:02 2008 From: jjohnson at htctu.net (Jayme Johnson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Save as DAISY XML Message-ID: <000901c8b07a$902917d0$9b821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Hello everyone, I responded to Tom's question on our Alt Media list, and Gaeir reminded me it would be nice to share with ATHEN as well (just in case there's somebody who isn't also monitoring the Alt Media list). Jayme -----Original Message----- From: Jayme Johnson [mailto:jjohnson@htctu.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:52 AM To: Alternate Media Subject: RE: Save as DAISY XML Hello Tom, I'm glad to see the awareness of the new Save as DAISY XML plugin has spread so far. I can understand the hopeful enthusiasm of those looking for a one-shot technological solution to producing alternate media, but you are right to be cautious, and you have some good questions. First off, the Save as DAISY XML plugin is an intermediary step in producing a DAISY book, you will still need to take some steps to get a finished DAISY book. The advised solution from the DAISY consortium is to use the DAISY Pipeline, a free application that has been in development for some time. There is a section of the DAISY consortium website where you can find out more about these tools: http://www.daisy.org/projects/save-as-daisy-microsoft/. As for other DAISY prodution tools, you will have to check with each manufacturer to see how they plan to support (or not) the Save as DAISY XML plugin output. You mention Dolphin, and they have already put a page on their website that addresses some of the frequently asked questions, check it out at: http://www.yourdolphin.com/index.asp?id=149. You can assure your "superiors" that the increased Dolphin license was a good thing- as the plugin doesn't produce an actual DAISY book, you still need another tool (like the Dolphin products) to complete the process. As for how the Save as DAISY plugin can be used, it is actually much more powerful than you might think. It includes an interesting new set of styles that you can use to mark up sidebar information, footers and headers, and other types of content that the end user can then skip over or re-structure within the document, and they can set thir DAISY player to always treat this comment the same way (where supported by the DAISY player). These styles are integrated into the main style menu MS Word uses, so there is no extra clicking or special hidden menu to find. You will still have to go in and markup the headings, but you can also do more with the standard MS Word tools, for instance, marking page breaks with the standard page break tool from Word. So the Save as DAISY XML Plugin can really be used both by individual users as well as by alternate media specialists and others who need to do mass-production of DAISY books. Just remember that you still need another tool to make the output from the Save as DAISY XML plugin a complete and functioning DAISY book. It is not aone-click solution, there is still some assembly required. Unfortunately, this plugin is not the magic bullet everyone wishes for in terms of providing an automated technological solution to producing alternate media, but it looks like a great addition to our existing tool set. It does look like it has potential to simplify the general workflow for producing DAISY books, as well as reducing the required time. I will share more information with the list as I continue to learn more, and everyone please share your questions and opinions with the list. I am curious as to how many people are interested in this new plugin and what tools you are currently using to produce DAISY books. For those of you using the Phoneticom DAISY Generator, we are currently working on adding support for this newly released plugin- stay tuned for more information... I look forward to seeing what you all think! Jayme Johnson Assistive Computer Technology Instructor High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges -----Original Message----- From: Tom Whalen [mailto:twhalen@mesastate.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:16 AM To: Alternate Media Subject: Save as DAISY XML Hello, The new release of Microsoft's new plug in has me a bit confused. My superiors (the ones who think DAISY is a flower) believe this is an end all solution to our alternate production needs. I am a bit more cautious. I have become a big fan of Dolphin's Producer and Publisher, as I use Producer to convert a book a chapter at a time, because it is easier to train staff and I can also retain the page numbers, as opposed to building the whole book from scratch in Publisher. I need to clarify to administration the difference on what I am doing now, compared to what I will be able to do with the save as DAISY plug in. Will I still have to add headings to the average MS Word doc? Will the plug in do the same thing as Dolphin's Producer? I'm thinking I will still have to use Publisher to make the entire book into one file. Am I correct in thinking that the new plug in is for vision impaired users to take an average MS Word doc and convert it to a DAISY format and that it is not for use in producing textbooks? I recently increased our licences of Producer and Publisher and my administrator is now asking why. I realize this is all new, but I would appreciate any insight on how this will impact us. Thanks, Tom Whalen Assistant Coordinator Educational Access Services Mesa State College 1100 North Avenue Grand Junction, CO 81504 970-248-1801 From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Wed May 7 19:06:59 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Learning Management Systems Message-ID: <479AE6BF0000DA75@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Hi ATHENites & all in DSSHE-Land, Our college district has been using Blackboard & WebCT for years and is asking for an evaluation of the system(s) for future renewal or suggestions for other learning management systems. Are any of you all aware of any LMS that do a better than average job at electronic access for the B/VI & D/HI, reading disabilities (using screen readers) etc.? Any suggestions would be most welcome. We have a short time line to make suggestions to our Center for Teaching & Learning and I will happily pass along any of your collectively wise evaluations of other systems. Thanks in advance! Wink PS have been invited to present at a district-wide technology conference next week...historic, as it is the first time an individual disability resources office in our college district has been invited!! Well, it may be it's the first time an individual office actually ever submitted a proposal, but hey, it does count as a 'first,' right?? Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Wed May 7 19:20:53 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Docsoft Message-ID: <479AE6BF0000DA81@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Hello Again, E-Friends, What experience/hands-on knowledge might any of you have with Docsoft software used for captioning? An email from a vendor was forwarded to me today and I would like to know if any of you have tried it out + what advantages/drawbacks it may have. Thanks --as always!-- to you all for your collective expertise. Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From jfoliot at stanford.edu Thu May 8 11:50:24 2008 From: jfoliot at stanford.edu (John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Docsoft In-Reply-To: <479AE6BF0000DA81@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <00a101c8b13c$657c2cd0$723d42ab@stanford.edu> Wink Harner wrote: > > What experience/hands-on knowledge might any of you have with Docsoft > software used for captioning? After some local testing here, I sadly had to abandon any thought of using DocSoft to create captions: the accuracy rate simply did not meet my expectations. As a tool for key word scraping and search/archive possibility it seems to be great, but as a captioning tool/solution you will be hugely disappointed. I know that DocSoft have worked hard on beefing up their editing tool, and they claimed that other institutions have seen success rates of 80%+, but my experience was far below that within the limited testing I was able to do. The holy grail of speech to text is still outside of our current reach, and I suspect we will only see reliable results *after* we see jetcars zooming around in the air (ala George Jetson), it is simply too hard to do at this time. JF From danc at washington.edu Thu May 8 12:07:05 2008 From: danc at washington.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Docsoft In-Reply-To: <00a101c8b13c$657c2cd0$723d42ab@stanford.edu> References: <00a101c8b13c$657c2cd0$723d42ab@stanford.edu> Message-ID: Agreed. We had a demo a few weeks back and while we didn't test the product in-house, it was quite clear to me that the results are just not good enough. Even if it's 95% accurate, that's not good enough for academic content and we saw accuracy rates far below that. -*- Dan Comden danc@washington.edu Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ University of Washington UW Technology Services On Thu, 8 May 2008, John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program wrote: > Wink Harner wrote: > >> >> What experience/hands-on knowledge might any of you have with Docsoft >> software used for captioning? > > After some local testing here, I sadly had to abandon any thought of using > DocSoft to create captions: the accuracy rate simply did not meet my > expectations. As a tool for key word scraping and search/archive > possibility it seems to be great, but as a captioning tool/solution you will > be hugely disappointed. > > I know that DocSoft have worked hard on beefing up their editing tool, and > they claimed that other institutions have seen success rates of 80%+, but my > experience was far below that within the limited testing I was able to do. > > The holy grail of speech to text is still outside of our current reach, and > I suspect we will only see reliable results *after* we see jetcars zooming > around in the air (ala George Jetson), it is simply too hard to do at this > time. > > JF > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From skeegan at htctu.net Thu May 8 12:47:17 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Docsoft In-Reply-To: <479AE6BF0000DA81@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> References: <479AE6BF0000DA81@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <003101c8b144$5303a760$f90af620$@net> Hi Wink, > What experience/hands-on knowledge might any of you have with > Docsoft software used for captioning? First the short version: As a tool to generate basic text information that could be used for searching an audio file, this is pretty good. As a tool to automatically generate captioned text information, I do not believe this tool is sufficient by itself (i.e., you *will* need someone to review and edit the content). Here is a longer version: We did some testing with the system on a audio file that was recorded in a studio quality environment with multiple takes to get the audio track "just right". When we ran the file through the DocSoft engine, we got about 91-92% accuracy. That is about one wrong word out of 10. Others that were testing the system (for podcasting-type situations) were able to get similar levels of recognition provided that they scripted out what they planned to say before recording. We then ran some audio clips that were recorded in more of a "classroom" type environment (i.e., non-studio, more dynamic interaction, etc.) and were able to get about 80-85% accuracy, which was similar to what others were getting. In reality, it was not so much that the system was not recognizing the words, it was that the system was mis-recognizing whole phrases/sentences. Because it is automated speech recognition, it is not so much an issue of misspelling a word, but mis-recognizing the spoken word as something altogether different. We ended up with text content that was very different from what was spoken. We found that when the recognition went below 90%, it became much more difficult to edit the generated transcript. The generated text content was very different from the spoken audio content to the point it did not make sense. This was not an issue of correcting just one or two words, but having to repeatedly review whole sentences/phrases to edit the text content vs. the spoken content. For content that was in the 80% region, there were significant problems with the content being totally out of context. It may be more effective to transcribe/parrot the audio file separately as opposed to using an automated solution. At the time, DocSoft had an editor tool in beta development that we did not get a chance to use, but their developers thought that it would be approximately 1-1.5 times the length of the audio clip for a person to edit the recognized text (this is after the audio clip has already been processed). So, for a 30 minute audio clip, you would be looking at a total processing time of 1 hour to 1 hour 15 minutes (30 minutes for audio clip processing, and 30-45 minutes for post-production audio clip editing). The DocSoft tool is basically running the Dragon Naturally Speaking engine (from Nuance), which is probably one of the better automated speech recognition engines commercially available. There is an option that you could use to train the user and this may result in an improvement. I was unable to test this component. So, as a tool to create basic text from an audio file for searching, then I think DocSoft is a good option. As a tool to automatically create transcripts (or captioned files), I think there is a lot more work that needs to be done. From what I have seen, you will need someone would need to go back through and proof the generated text AND audio to ensure accuracy. The question I ask is, what is the intent of using such a system? If you have an accurate transcript, then there are various vendor options for creating the time-stamped text file (and the level of searchability is FAR more granular). If all you are interested in doing is basic audio mining to add searchability to the audio content, then I think DocSoft has a very useful platform. Take care, Sean From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Thu May 8 13:21:55 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Docsoft In-Reply-To: <003101c8b144$5303a760$f90af620$@net> References: <479AE6BF0000DA81@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> <003101c8b144$5303a760$f90af620$@net> Message-ID: <482360E3.60701@mcmail.maricopa.edu> Hi All, Our school has been launching live video feeds/flash media w/o captioning and since we now have a CDI in our office, she has volunteered to 'test' every single one that comes out for captioning access for the Deaf (I love my staff!). The information on the product was emailed to someone on our staff and I, ever the skeptic, thought the advertisement was a bit too good to be true. I think my recommendation to media services will be to either hire a CART transcriptionist for the script & schedule captioning work in our Center for Teaching & Learning lab, or dupe the video & upload to an off-site service. Your evaluation is really clear and I like that you mentioned what it is good for as well as where the limitations are. Thanks, Sean. Wink Sean Keegan wrote: > Hi Wink, > > >> What experience/hands-on knowledge might any of you have with >> Docsoft software used for captioning? >> > > First the short version: > As a tool to generate basic text information that could be used for > searching an audio file, this is pretty good. As a tool to automatically > generate captioned text information, I do not believe this tool is > sufficient by itself (i.e., you *will* need someone to review and edit the > content). > > Here is a longer version: > We did some testing with the system on a audio file that was recorded in a > studio quality environment with multiple takes to get the audio track "just > right". When we ran the file through the DocSoft engine, we got about 91-92% > accuracy. That is about one wrong word out of 10. Others that were testing > the system (for podcasting-type situations) were able to get similar levels > of recognition provided that they scripted out what they planned to say > before recording. > > We then ran some audio clips that were recorded in more of a "classroom" > type environment (i.e., non-studio, more dynamic interaction, etc.) and were > able to get about 80-85% accuracy, which was similar to what others were > getting. In reality, it was not so much that the system was not recognizing > the words, it was that the system was mis-recognizing whole > phrases/sentences. Because it is automated speech recognition, it is not so > much an issue of misspelling a word, but mis-recognizing the spoken word as > something altogether different. We ended up with text content that was very > different from what was spoken. > > We found that when the recognition went below 90%, it became much more > difficult to edit the generated transcript. The generated text content was > very different from the spoken audio content to the point it did not make > sense. This was not an issue of correcting just one or two words, but > having to repeatedly review whole sentences/phrases to edit the text content > vs. the spoken content. For content that was in the 80% region, there were > significant problems with the content being totally out of context. It may > be more effective to transcribe/parrot the audio file separately as opposed > to using an automated solution. > > At the time, DocSoft had an editor tool in beta development that we did > not get a chance to use, but their developers thought that it would be > approximately 1-1.5 times the length of the audio clip for a person to > edit the recognized text (this is after the audio clip has already been > processed). So, for a 30 minute audio clip, you would be looking at a > total processing time of 1 hour to 1 hour 15 minutes (30 minutes for audio > clip processing, and 30-45 minutes for post-production audio clip editing). > > The DocSoft tool is basically running the Dragon Naturally Speaking > engine (from Nuance), which is probably one of the better automated > speech recognition engines commercially available. There is an option that > you could use to train the user and this may result in an improvement. I > was unable to test this component. > > So, as a tool to create basic text from an audio file for searching, > then I think DocSoft is a good option. As a tool to automatically > create transcripts (or captioned files), I think there is a lot more > work that needs to be done. From what I have seen, you will need someone > would need to go back through and proof the generated text AND audio to > ensure accuracy. > > The question I ask is, what is the intent of using such a system? If > you have an accurate transcript, then there are various vendor options > for creating the time-stamped text file (and the level of searchability is > FAR more granular). If all you are interested in doing is basic audio > mining to add searchability to the audio content, then I think DocSoft has a > very useful platform. > > Take care, > Sean > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: wink.harner.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 154 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbailey at uoregon.edu Thu May 8 13:32:46 2008 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Docsoft In-Reply-To: <003101c8b144$5303a760$f90af620$@net> References: <003101c8b144$5303a760$f90af620$@net> Message-ID: <1210278766.290000.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> On Thu, 8 May 2008 12:47:17 -0700, "Sean Keegan" wrote: > Others that were testing the system (for podcasting-type situations) were able to get similar levels of recognition provided that they scripted > out what they planned to say before recording. Hi Sean, If there's a script why wouldn't you just work from that? I don't mean this rhetorically, how helpful is a script? James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu From skeegan at htctu.net Thu May 8 14:18:43 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Docsoft In-Reply-To: <1210278766.290000.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> References: <003101c8b144$5303a760$f90af620$@net> <1210278766.290000.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <003501c8b151$18a2f820$49e8e860$@net> >> Others that were testing the system (for podcasting-type situations) >> were able to get similar levels of recognition provided that >> they scripted out what they planned to say before recording. > If there's a script why wouldn't you just work from that? > I don't mean this rhetorically, how helpful is a script? We were just testing the system to see how good the recognition could actually be and used the script to compare against. One of the items that was also tested was the time-stamping functionality and the creation of captioned files (SAMI, SMIL, etc.). All that being said (in the real world), if you are already scripting out what you are going to say, then you have your transcript. For video content, there would be the need to create the caption file, but there are already business entities that are out there that can perform that function or it can be done in-house. We were just testing using various models and found that the recognition was better when working from a script as opposed to speaking extemporaneously. Take care, Sean From gdietrich at htctu.net Thu May 8 16:08:03 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Docsoft In-Reply-To: <1210278766.290000.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> References: <003101c8b144$5303a760$f90af620$@net> <1210278766.290000.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <006201c8b160$5f0c5680$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> If we had been captioning "for real," then yes, we would have used the script...particularly since the "voice talent" (me) read exactly from the script. What we were attempting to check was how accurate DocSoft would be with something recorded under ideal studio conditions vs. in the uncontrolled classroom environment. What we found was that even under the best recording conditions with clear sound, precise enunciation, and no "nonsense syllables" (uh, hmmm, etc.), DocSoft did not come close to being completely accurate. One other note, a very accurate and quick way to generate a transcript is to have someone who is a very good Dragon user listen to the recording and speak it into Dragon. This technique can work very well. It can also be a great job opportunity for one of your proficient Dragon students. Good luck! ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 1:33 PM To: skeegan@htctu.net; Access Technologists in Higher EducationNetwork Subject: Re: [Athen] Docsoft On Thu, 8 May 2008 12:47:17 -0700, "Sean Keegan" wrote: > Others that were testing the system (for podcasting-type situations) were able to get similar levels of recognition provided that they scripted > out what they planned to say before recording. Hi Sean, If there's a script why wouldn't you just work from that? I don't mean this rhetorically, how helpful is a script? James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From obriemic at hvcc.edu Fri May 9 05:43:26 2008 From: obriemic at hvcc.edu (Michael O'Brien) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Docsoft In-Reply-To: <006201c8b160$5f0c5680$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <001501c8b1d2$46788090$b1176797@hvcc.edu> Why not take either an electronic or scanned version of the script, if available, and use that to creat the captioned version of the podcast or video. Mike Mike O'Brien, Technical Assistant-Center for Careers and Employment, Hudson Valley Communityy College, Troy, New York -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:08 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Docsoft If we had been captioning "for real," then yes, we would have used the script...particularly since the "voice talent" (me) read exactly from the script. What we were attempting to check was how accurate DocSoft would be with something recorded under ideal studio conditions vs. in the uncontrolled classroom environment. What we found was that even under the best recording conditions with clear sound, precise enunciation, and no "nonsense syllables" (uh, hmmm, etc.), DocSoft did not come close to being completely accurate. One other note, a very accurate and quick way to generate a transcript is to have someone who is a very good Dragon user listen to the recording and speak it into Dragon. This technique can work very well. It can also be a great job opportunity for one of your proficient Dragon students. Good luck! ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 1:33 PM To: skeegan@htctu.net; Access Technologists in Higher EducationNetwork Subject: Re: [Athen] Docsoft On Thu, 8 May 2008 12:47:17 -0700, "Sean Keegan" wrote: > Others that were testing the system (for podcasting-type situations) > were able to get similar levels of recognition provided that they scripted > out what they planned to say before recording. Hi Sean, If there's a script why wouldn't you just work from that? I don't mean this rhetorically, how helpful is a script? James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Fri May 9 14:00:45 2008 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Dawn Hunziker) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Computer Science student -- Braille? Message-ID: <4824BB7D.9030209@email.arizona.edu> Hi all, The University of Arizona is expecting a new Computer Science student for the fall who is blind. This will be our first attempt at Brailling Math / Science materials in quite a while and I know that a lot has changed in terms of software / methods. So, we have a license for Scientific Notebook and Duxbury... If we're able to re-create the formulas using this program, will the formulas transfer into a Nemeth Braille format without any issues? For Braille Embossers, we have a Juliet Pro and a Tiger. Do we need to look at hiring someone to create the Nemeth Braille for this student? Thanks for your advice and expertise -- have a good weekend, Dawn -- Dawn Hunziker Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center 626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Fri May 9 14:04:58 2008 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Dawn Hunziker) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of Facebook and MySpace Message-ID: <4824BC7A.4090602@email.arizona.edu> Hi again, There are several departments at the University of Arizona that are considering using Facebook and/or MySpace to communicate with students. Are any of you familiar with the accessibility of these sites? The information I've been able to find says that Facebook has a team that works on accessibility while MySpace isn't as accessible.... Is this correct? Also, do you know if other Universities are moving in this same direction? Thanks! Dawn -- Dawn Hunziker Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center 626-9409 Web Page: http://drc.arizona.edu hunziker@email.arizona.edu Mailing Address: Disability Resouce Center 1224 E. Lowell St. Tucson, AZ 85721 From marks at mso.umt.edu Fri May 9 14:50:16 2008 From: marks at mso.umt.edu (Marks, Jim) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of Facebook and MySpace In-Reply-To: <4824BC7A.4090602@email.arizona.edu> References: <4824BC7A.4090602@email.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7ABB63D2@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Hi Dawn, I use Jaws on both Facebook and My Space, but I'm not sure I can give you a definitive answer on the accessibility of either. It seems like I can do most of what I want on either service. For example, I mostly wanted to spy on my teenage children, which worked fairly well until I was dumb enough to tip my hand and they were smart enough to shut me out. But I Did bust at least one senior high beer party before it happened thanks to the kids' clueless self-exposures. Why is it that these kids have such great big bodies and tiny little minds, anyhow? But then I digress. These days, the structure of a webpage has a lot to do with whether I can use it well or not. Many a technically accessible website has so much information published without the benefit of headings, properly formatted tables, etc. that the website is not really usable. My Space is terrible in this regard, and Facebook is a bit better. Oh, one more thing. My university is looking into using Facebook more than we do now. It turns out that we often have better luck reaching students on Facebook than we do within our own system. That's changing as we rely more heavily on university e-mail and services. Even so, we are exploring the same things you are. Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Hunziker Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:05 PM To: ATHEN Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of Facebook and MySpace Hi again, There are several departments at the University of Arizona that are considering using Facebook and/or MySpace to communicate with students. Are any of you familiar with the accessibility of these sites? The information I've been able to find says that Facebook has a team that works on accessibility while MySpace isn't as accessible.... Is this correct? Also, do you know if other Universities are moving in this same direction? From burke at ucla.edu Fri May 9 14:58:51 2008 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of Facebook and MySpace In-Reply-To: <4824BC7A.4090602@email.arizona.edu> References: <4824BC7A.4090602@email.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080509145601.02730198@ucla.edu> I haven't used Facebook much, but Myspace is abysmal in my experience. Not quite what you're after, but Twitter is great accessibilitywise. www.twitter.com Patrick At 02:04 PM 5/9/2008, Dawn Hunziker wrote: >Hi again, > >There are several departments at the University of Arizona that are >considering using Facebook and/or MySpace to communicate with students. >Are any of you familiar with the accessibility of these sites? The >information I've been able to find says that Facebook has a team that >works on accessibility while MySpace isn't as accessible.... Is this >correct? > >Also, do you know if other Universities are moving in this same direction? > >Thanks! > >Dawn >-- > >Dawn Hunziker >Assistive Technology Coordinator >Disability Resource Center > >626-9409 >Web Page: http://drc.arizona.edu >hunziker@email.arizona.edu > >Mailing Address: >Disability Resouce Center >1224 E. Lowell St. >Tucson, AZ 85721 From marks at mso.umt.edu Fri May 9 15:03:51 2008 From: marks at mso.umt.edu (Marks, Jim) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Computer Science student -- Braille? In-Reply-To: <4824BB7D.9030209@email.arizona.edu> References: <4824BB7D.9030209@email.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7ABB63D6@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Hi Dawn, I think you should hire someone who can read and transcribe Nemeth Braille to publish Nemeth Braille. It's possible to do the work without this, but it still takes a lot of effort. Gaeir Dietrich teaches a wonderful seminar on producing Braille yourself. I hope she will say something on this topic as well. The reason that I prefer hiring a Braille transcriptionist is that it's the best way to assure effective communication. Nemeth Braille especially requires a foundation. We produce our own Braille here, but the person doing is a Braille reader. He spends a lot of time trying to get the formatting right, and there's no good way that I know to do this unless the person producing the Braille can read Braille. Cost is always a concern, but in the economic considerations, we should think about frustration and learning curves. It may be a good idea to bring the blind student into the process somehow, too. For example, in working closely with a student, one might find that only a few things need be Brailed while access to the majority of the material may be satisfied through other alternatives. Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/dss/ -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Hunziker Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:01 PM To: ATHEN Subject: [Athen] Computer Science student -- Braille? Hi all, The University of Arizona is expecting a new Computer Science student for the fall who is blind. This will be our first attempt at Brailling Math / Science materials in quite a while and I know that a lot has changed in terms of software / methods. So, we have a license for Scientific Notebook and Duxbury... If we're able to re-create the formulas using this program, will the formulas transfer into a Nemeth Braille format without any issues? For Braille Embossers, we have a Juliet Pro and a Tiger. Do we need to look at hiring someone to create the Nemeth Braille for this student? From danc at washington.edu Fri May 9 16:18:36 2008 From: danc at washington.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Computer Science student -- Braille? In-Reply-To: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7ABB63D6@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> References: <4824BB7D.9030209@email.arizona.edu> <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7ABB63D6@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: I agree with Jim, mostly. Certainly having the student involved is key. A lot depends on the abilities of the student. The student *may* have familiarity with LaTeX markup -- if that's the case, that can be helpful as some materials may be available in that format. Duxbury's translator can convert LaTeX to Nemeth, though there are some "gotchas" we've discovered in past years -- you can find those at http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/yasuhara/tmp/dss/latex/ We had a team of students involved in creating LaTeX content for a student a few years ago -- having workers who are familiar with the course content is very important in maintaining accuracy. You'll most likely need to consider production of tactile graphics as well, as there will be quite a bit of important content in textbook figures from their courses. -*- Dan Comden danc@washington.edu Access Technology Lab www.washington.edu/computing/atl University of Washington UW Technology Services On Fri, 9 May 2008, Marks, Jim wrote: > Hi Dawn, > > I think you should hire someone who can read and transcribe Nemeth > Braille to publish Nemeth Braille. It's possible to do the work without > this, but it still takes a lot of effort. Gaeir Dietrich teaches a > wonderful seminar on producing Braille yourself. I hope she will say > something on this topic as well. The reason that I prefer hiring a > Braille transcriptionist is that it's the best way to assure effective > communication. Nemeth Braille especially requires a foundation. We > produce our own Braille here, but the person doing is a Braille reader. > He spends a lot of time trying to get the formatting right, and there's > no good way that I know to do this unless the person producing the > Braille can read Braille. Cost is always a concern, but in the economic > considerations, we should think about frustration and learning curves. > It may be a good idea to bring the blind student into the process > somehow, too. For example, in working closely with a student, one might > find that only a few things need be Brailed while access to the majority > of the material may be satisfied through other alternatives. > > From skeegan at htctu.net Fri May 9 17:32:35 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Docsoft In-Reply-To: <001501c8b1d2$46788090$b1176797@hvcc.edu> References: <006201c8b160$5f0c5680$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> <001501c8b1d2$46788090$b1176797@hvcc.edu> Message-ID: <00cc01c8b235$57ff2950$07fd7bf0$@net> > Why not take either an electronic or scanned version of > the script, if available, and use that to creat the captioned > version of the podcast or video. You are absolutely correct. If you already have the text transcript, then there would not be the need to run an audio presentation through automatic speech recognition. What we were focusing on was testing how the system worked and one of the tests included a prepared script to assess accuracy of the system. One of the outcomes of all our testing was that we found when people spoke extemporaneously (or were more dynamic vocally in their presentation), then recognition accuracy decreased. When someone read from a prepared script, then accuracy increased. Once again, we were testing different combinations to see "what would happen if...". We realize that if you already have a prepared script, then you would (most likely) not be using automated speech recognition. Take care, sean From larry.kiser at sfcc.edu Tue May 13 05:46:43 2008 From: larry.kiser at sfcc.edu (Larry Kiser) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Angel Learning Management System Accessibility Issue Message-ID: <20080513084643495.00000003392@SF305507> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dabrus at purdue.edu Tue May 13 05:51:47 2008 From: dabrus at purdue.edu (Brusnighan, Dean A.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Course Management Systems... Extra time In-Reply-To: <200804231911.m3NJB7iP009761@smtp.washington.edu> References: <1E3DC2D62305E542B4F9CA6487E8730D0629E461@EXCH04.purdue.lcl> <200804231911.m3NJB7iP009761@smtp.washington.edu> Message-ID: <1E3DC2D62305E542B4F9CA6487E8730D06406F33@EXCH04.purdue.lcl> Hi Terry, Thanks for the suggestion. The directions for providing extended time on quizzes in Blackboard Vista 4 are now posted on the ATHEN wiki at: http://www.athenpro.org/wiki/Blackboard/WebCT It's under the heading of "Accessibility Procedures and Workarounds", which you suggested. It sounded good to me. You are so right. We need to share with others what we learn, and the wiki is a great tool for doing that. Thanks for reminding me of that. Dean -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terry Thompson Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:11 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Course Management Systems... Extra time Hi Dean, Do you mind posting the directions to the list? Or better yet, post them to the ATHEN wiki somewhere on or linked from the Blackboard/WebCT page: http://www.athenpro.org/wiki/Blackboard/WebCT There isn't really a place for this sort of information on that page yet, but feel free (anyone) to create space. Maybe a new H2-level heading "Accessibility Procedures and Workarounds" or something similar is in order. In fact, if others have similar accessibility solutions related to Blackboard or any other product, please consider using the ATHEN wiki to document them. The wiki has potential to serve as a clearing house for information and solutions related to the IT products we all have daily questions about, but in order to reach its potential we all need to spend a little time populating it with the solutions we've found. Thanks! Terry Terry Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Brusnighan, Dean A. > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:00 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Course Management Systems... Extra time > > I agree with Wink. It's not difficult. NJ, I will send you a > set of directions that we make available to faculty using > "selective release" in Blackboard Vista 4 to set the criteria > for extended time. > > Dean > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dean Brusnighan > Information Technology at Purdue > Young Hall > 302 Wood Street > West Lafayette, IN 47907-2108 > Phone: 765-494-9082 > dabrus@purdue.edu > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org > [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink Harner > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:13 PM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Course Management Systems... Extra time > > Hi NormaJean et al ATHENites, > > Relay to the instructor to create a section of his class for the > student(s) with disabilities and s/he can specify the > extended amount of time for the online tests & assignments. > Not too hard. Cutting & pasting info from one screen to > another. On our Instructor Notification forms we indicate a > time extension for online tests/assignments. > > If the instructor has any trouble, refer them to the help > screen on creating a subset of students w/in Blackboard or WebCT. > > Hope this is helpful. > > Wink > > > normajean.brand wrote: > > > > Fellow Athenians, > > > > I have been asked to collect comments, suggestions, > responses from you > > and how you and your college handle extra time on quizzes, > exams, any > > timed assignments in an online class. For instance, most of our > > students who meet certain criteria are accommodated with > extended time > > up to time and ? and some with double time. This works fine for the > > traditional F2F classroom and on-site testing centers, but > not online. > > The CMS we use is Blackboard. Blackboard does not allow, > that we can > > find, for 1.5 time duration only increments of 1 hr, 2 hr, etc. > > Blackboard's answer to this is found in the instructor's help file: > > For users with special needs, such as students who use a screen > > reader, give them *_extra time or an unlimited_* amount of time to > > complete the assessment. (I'm sure you all have some idea of the > > accessibility issues with the various CMSs out there, including > > Blackboard.) > > > > The concern is that if the norm is up to time and ? but not > available > > in the CMS and we allow double time or unlimited time are we > > over-accommodating? Discriminating against the other > students in the > > same online class? Do we allow double time in an online > class but only > > time and ? in the traditional F2F class? If the instructor > has two or > > more students with accommodations, 2 with time and ? and 1 > with double > > time, how is that handled? > > > > How are you handling this at your college? When I suggested > allowing > > all the students in the online class the same amount of time, say > > double time, many of the professors met that suggestion > with disdain. > > You don't want to know how they took the 'unlimited amount of time' > > suggestion! > > > > Thank you for your kind and thoughtful responses, ideas, > etc... short > > of doing away with Blackboard (sigh). > > > > NJ > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > > > *NJ Brand* > > > > Houston Community College-NW > > > > Technical Support and Innovation Center > > > > Assistive Technology Specialist/Sr. Lab Assistant > > > > Town and Country Square Campus > > > > MC 1379 Room RC13 > > > > 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. > > > > Houston TX 77043 > > > > *VM/Office: 713.718.5604 * > > > > *FAX: 713.718.5430 * > > > > *Email:** normajean.brand@hccs.edu > * > > > > http://nwc.hccs.edu > > > > http://learning.nwc.hccs.edu/members/normajean.brand > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From rbeach at kckcc.edu Tue May 13 10:06:12 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] ZT and Adobe Photo Shop Message-ID: <48298434020000CF000136EB@mymail.kckcc.edu> Hi all, Does anybody have any experience with ZoomText and Adobe Photo Shop working together? I really have no reason to think they wouldn't work, but would feel better if somebody could give me a definite answer. Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From goodman at eri-wi.org Tue May 13 10:43:46 2008 From: goodman at eri-wi.org (Phillip Goodman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] ZT and Adobe Photo Shop In-Reply-To: <48298434020000CF000136EB@mymail.kckcc.edu> References: <48298434020000CF000136EB@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <004a01c8b520$e5381d20$1600a8c0@eriwi.local> Adobe Photoshop CS and ZoomText 9 work together O.K. The menu bar titles are read out loud when activated but rolling the cursor over the menu items only gets you "unknown". The individual frames within Photoshop are not identified. If one is using a large cursor it also tends to block out the tooltips balloons that identify the tool being chosen from that menu. I don't know what other concerns a low vision student might have in using the program unless there is more specific task information..... Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTR Assistive Technology Consultant Employment Resources, Inc. 4126 Lien Rd. Madison, WI 53704 608-246-3444 ext.234 fax 608-246-3445 This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are no the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Beach [mailto:rbeach@kckcc.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 12:06 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] ZT and Adobe Photo Shop Hi all, Does anybody have any experience with ZoomText and Adobe Photo Shop working together? I really have no reason to think they wouldn't work, but would feel better if somebody could give me a definite answer. Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From rbeach at kckcc.edu Tue May 13 11:42:07 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] ZT and Adobe Photo Shop In-Reply-To: <004a01c8b520$e5381d20$1600a8c0@eriwi.local> References: <48298434020000CF000136EB@mymail.kckcc.edu> <004a01c8b520$e5381d20$1600a8c0@eriwi.local> Message-ID: <48299AAF020000CF00013719@mymail.kckcc.edu> Okay, thanks. This is what I'm looking for. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Phillip Goodman" 5/13/2008 12:43 PM >>> Adobe Photoshop CS and ZoomText 9 work together O.K. The menu bar titles are read out loud when activated but rolling the cursor over the menu items only gets you "unknown". The individual frames within Photoshop are not identified. If one is using a large cursor it also tends to block out the tooltips balloons that identify the tool being chosen from that menu. I don't know what other concerns a low vision student might have in using the program unless there is more specific task information..... Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTR Assistive Technology Consultant Employment Resources, Inc. 4126 Lien Rd. Madison, WI 53704 608-246-3444 ext.234 fax 608-246-3445 This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are no the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Beach [mailto:rbeach@kckcc.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 12:06 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] ZT and Adobe Photo Shop Hi all, Does anybody have any experience with ZoomText and Adobe Photo Shop working together? I really have no reason to think they wouldn't work, but would feel better if somebody could give me a definite answer. Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From mcnameeb at wit.edu Tue May 13 13:28:23 2008 From: mcnameeb at wit.edu (McNamee, Bridget) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Enlarged Print Textbooks Message-ID: <823FE16A6E5CEC4C8E0CE54670D07C9B02D2C9A1@EVS2.wit.private> Hi There, Does anyone have any favorite methods of producing/obtaining enlarged print textbooks? Are any publishing companies "friendlier" to work with in this regard? Thanks Bridget Bridget McNamee Disability Outreach Specialist Wentworth Institute of Technology 550 Huntington Avenue Boston, MA 02115-4998 (617) 989-4544 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Tue May 13 14:18:32 2008 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Enlarged Print Textbooks In-Reply-To: <823FE16A6E5CEC4C8E0CE54670D07C9B02D2C9A1@EVS2.wit.private> References: <823FE16A6E5CEC4C8E0CE54670D07C9B02D2C9A1@EVS2.wit.private> Message-ID: <004201c8b53e$e79ff9c0$9a821299@htctu.fhda.edu> For large print, I love working with PDFs, and most of the publishers are pretty good about providing them. As long as you have Adobe Acrobat Professional, you can open the PDF in Acrobat, crop the margins down to a minimum, and then in the print window, scale to full page and print on 11 in. x 17 in. paper. You can also tile the pages so that you print half a page onto 8.5 in. x 11 in. paper. If the student wants Word, you can save to HTML 4.0 then open the document through Word and save it as a Word doc. In Word, you can change font size easily by selecting text and then using Ctrl + Shift + >. If you want more details on these techniques, you can e-mail me off-list, and I will send you my manual. ****************************************************** Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of McNamee, Bridget Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:28 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Enlarged Print Textbooks Hi There, Does anyone have any favorite methods of producing/obtaining enlarged print textbooks? Are any publishing companies "friendlier" to work with in this regard? 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If there are others at your institution who are more appropriate contacts for completing any of the survey's six sections (AT products, IT accessibility, web accessibility, multimedia accessibility, alternative format production, and/or staffing and salaries), please forward this email to them and encourage them to participate. The survey is located here: http://www.athenpro.org/survey/ If you plan to participate in the survey but require more time, please let me know by Friday. Thanks to all for your help! Terry Terry Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 From mcnameeb at wit.edu Wed May 14 07:35:02 2008 From: mcnameeb at wit.edu (McNamee, Bridget) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Chair weight capacity Message-ID: <823FE16A6E5CEC4C8E0CE54670D07C9B02D2CC39@EVS2.wit.private> Hi All, I have recently discovered that the chairs in our dining hall have a weight capacity of 350 lbs. We are aware of one incoming student registered with our office who is over this weight limit. I am sure there are other students that exceed the weight limit on campus as well. It is unlikely that facilities will replace all of the chairs. How do people feel about a few labeled accessible tables and chairs distributed throughout the dining hall? Bridget McNamee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He can see where this might be distracting to sighted people and wants to know if there is a way to utilize this technology without everybody having to listen to the descriptions. I know this is done in movie theaters, but is there a way to setup a similar system for a class room type of system? Any thoughts? Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu Wed May 14 20:51:46 2008 From: Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu (Nusen, Michael) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Alternate format production time/costs data? Message-ID: I just completed my portions of the 2008 Survey on Accessible Technology in Higher Ed (due Fri 5-16-08 @ http://www.athenpro.org/survey/) and was wondering if anyone knows of any surveys that have been done regarding the time/production costs for alternate formats. For instance, below is some sample production time tracking data for producing certain e-textbooks @ PPCC: Semester Textbook Hrs 06 Spring Discovering Computers: Fundamentals 114.25 06 Fall Children 72.25 Go Access 45.5 Go Excel 60 Go PowerPoint 61.75 Go Word 85 07 Spring Philosophical Journey 83.5 07 Summer Economics 93.5 07 Fall Essentials of Business Law 43.25 Radio Station, The 40.25 Thank you, Michael Nusen Coordinator, OASIS/CAC (Office of Accommodative Services and Instructional Support/Computer Access Center) Pikes Peak Community College michael.nusen@ppcc.edu 719-502-3022 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu Wed May 14 21:46:04 2008 From: Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu (Nusen, Michael) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Chair weight capacity In-Reply-To: <823FE16A6E5CEC4C8E0CE54670D07C9B02D2CC39@EVS2.wit.private> References: <823FE16A6E5CEC4C8E0CE54670D07C9B02D2CC39@EVS2.wit.private> Message-ID: One suggestion would be a politically correct label such as "Big & Tall" which is actually how vendors market such chairs. Michael Nusen Coordinator, OASIS/CAC (Office of Accommodative Services and Instructional Support/Computer Access Center) Pikes Peak Community College michael.nusen@ppcc.edu 719-502-3022 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of McNamee, Bridget Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:35 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Chair weight capacity Hi All, I have recently discovered that the chairs in our dining hall have a weight capacity of 350 lbs. We are aware of one incoming student registered with our office who is over this weight limit. I am sure there are other students that exceed the weight limit on campus as well. It is unlikely that facilities will replace all of the chairs. How do people feel about a few labeled accessible tables and chairs distributed throughout the dining hall? Bridget McNamee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Thu May 15 06:32:45 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Alternate format production time/costs data? References: Message-ID: I am currently working on documentation that includes just such metrics. I will be presenting this information at Accessing Higher Ground in Boulder in November. I will be able to provide my published metrics and methods at that time, if you can wait that long. It is going to take me all summer to write this stuff, but I have the data to work with after four measured semesters of production. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Nusen, Michael Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:52 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; consortium-at@lists.colorado.edu; consortium@lists.colorado.edu Subject: [Athen] Alternate format production time/costs data? I just completed my portions of the 2008 Survey on Accessible Technology in Higher Ed (due Fri 5-16-08 @ http://www.athenpro.org/survey/) and was wondering if anyone knows of any surveys that have been done regarding the time/production costs for alternate formats. For instance, below is some sample production time tracking data for producing certain e-textbooks @ PPCC: Semester Textbook Hrs 06 Spring Discovering Computers: Fundamentals 114.25 06 Fall Children 72.25 Go Access 45.5 Go Excel 60 Go PowerPoint 61.75 Go Word 85 07 Spring Philosophical Journey 83.5 07 Summer Economics 93.5 07 Fall Essentials of Business Law 43.25 Radio Station, The 40.25 Thank you, Michael Nusen Coordinator, OASIS/CAC (Office of Accommodative Services and Instructional Support/Computer Access Center) Pikes Peak Community College michael.nusen@ppcc.edu 719-502-3022 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dann at digilifemedia.biz Thu May 15 09:39:07 2008 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Alternate format production time/costs data? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <13578657.16001210869547628.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> This would be great to hear about in November! I have some current numbers that I use in presentations that are better than imaginary but I am certain Susan's number will be more accurate. I can send these to anyone who wants them. Or -- better yet -- attend the UCONN PTI Conference in June (Portland, Maine) and enjoy my entire strand presentation! --------------- Daniel Berkowitz, CEO DigiLife Media, LLC 1 Bryant Avenue Bradford, MA 01835-7424 phone: 617-512-4315 mobile: 978-914-4601 e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz web: www.digilifemedia.biz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan M. Kelmer" To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:32:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Athen] Alternate format production time/costs data? I am currently working on documentation that includes just such metrics. I will be presenting this information at Accessing Higher Ground in Boulder in November. I will be able to provide my published metrics and methods at that time, if you can wait that long. It is going to take me all summer to write this stuff, but I have the data to work with after four measured semesters of production. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Nusen, Michael Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:52 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; consortium-at@lists.colorado.edu; consortium@lists.colorado.edu Subject: [Athen] Alternate format production time/costs data? I just completed my portions of the 2008 Survey on Accessible Technology in Higher Ed (due Fri 5-16-08 @ http://www.athenpro.org/survey/) and was wondering if anyone knows of any surveys that have been done regarding the time/production costs for alternate formats. For instance, below is some sample production time tracking data for producing certain e-textbooks @ PPCC: Semester Textbook Hrs 06 Spring Discovering Computers: Fundamentals 114.25 06 Fall Children 72.25 Go Access 45.5 Go Excel 60 Go PowerPoint 61.75 Go Word 85 07 Spring Philosophical Journey 83.5 07 Summer Economics 93.5 07 Fall Essentials of Business Law 43.25 Radio Station, The 40.25 Thank you, Michael Nusen Coordinator, OASIS/CAC (Office of Accommodative Services and Instructional Support/Computer Access Center) Pikes Peak Community College michael.nusen@ppcc.edu 719-502-3022 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From dann at digilifemedia.biz Thu May 15 09:44:20 2008 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] New Posting at ATHEN Blog In-Reply-To: <14157613.16031210869786245.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> Message-ID: <19272651.16051210869859999.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> http://athenpro.blogspot.com/2008/05/new-blogs-and-articles-of-interest.html Several colleagues and friends (and even people I do not know) have blogs on the topic of alternative media, access technologies, disability law and more. Here is a run-down of what is new and of interest in the disability blogosphere: James Bailey, Adaptive Technology Access Adviser at the University of Oregon, well known AHEAD trainer on access technologies, and ATHEN member in good standing, provides a ?port in the storm? for non-tech types who have to manage Access Technology in a college setting with his blog Managing Assistive Technology in Higher Education . Another blog I recently came across is No Limits 2 Learning written by Lon Thornburg, a self described educator and assistive technology specialist and trainer. On his blogroll is the site SpEdChange by Ira David Socol. I've seen Ira speak a couple of times at conferences and had the opportunity to shoot the breeze with him afterwards. One day we'll break bread and have a brew but until then I'll read and enjoy his blog. Each post is like a short story and well worth the time necessary to dig into it. One of his post on Assistive Technology for Writing succinctly summarizes some thoughts I've had this topic and has helped me to clarify some of my work in this area. Ira also has a podcast of his work. For you unconventional types out there - check out ATMac: Assistive Technology for Mac OS X Users . The name pretty much says it all but the blog includes news, views, and reviews for all OS X users, content producers, and developers with an interest in disability, assistive technology, and making accessible programs and content . I came across ATMac through a Blog Carnival hosted by No Limits 2 Learning. What is a Blog Carnival you ask -- ? Well, according to Wikipedia, a blog carnival is a type of blog event. It is similar to a magazine, in that it is dedicated to a particular topic, and is published on a regular schedule, often weekly or monthly. Each edition of a blog carnival is in the form of a blog article that contains permalinks links to other blog articles on the particular topic . Maybe the ATHEN blog should take a crack at doing one of these ... could be interesting. Next up - Our friend Beth Case of Disability 411 has expanded her horizons by assisting in the development and presentation of the podcast Disability Law Lowdown . Brought to you by nationally recognized leaders in the field of disability law, the Disability Law Lowdown Podcast delivers the latest in disability rights information every other week. Got that? Good ... because it gets more interesting because the DLL podcast is also the DLL Video Podcast (I say VodCast -- but Beth doesn't like how that sounds). Available both through the site and via YouTube , this podcast /vodcast is the first video podcast in ASL that brings you information on the Americans with Disabilities Act and other disability rights laws. Very Cool Beth! And speaking of Cool! - Regular readers may have noticed that we have a new member of the blogging team here at ATHEN Susan Kelmer, Adaptive Technology Specialist and Lab Coordinator at St. Louis Community College, has signed up to provide the occasional post. Thanks Susabelle! -- Posted By D. Berkowitz to Access Technologists Higher Education Network at 5/14/2008 12:05:00 PM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Fri May 16 13:00:01 2008 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Student Voice Portal In-Reply-To: <6e0d34c90805151001h2617609bu23e761efe062d1f1@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080506120603.ADS91233@superman.int.colorado.edu> <6e0d34c90805151001h2617609bu23e761efe062d1f1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010f01c8b78f$6cbfe1e0$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> Hi Heidi, I've only been able to look at pieces of surveys, so my evaluation is limited. It seemed to be mostly text-based so it seems generally accessible. The only access issue I could see was that column headers were not at the top of the table so they weren't read when moving through a table with JAWS control keys. Once I have access to a full survey, I give you more feedback. Thanks, Howard Howard Kramer Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator AT Conference Coordinator Disability Services CU-Boulder, 107 UCB Boulder, Co 80309 303-492-8672 _____ From: Heidi Scher [mailto:hascherdss@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:01 AM To: Howard.Kramer@colorado.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] Student Voice Portal Hi Howard, Just curious if you've had a chance to review Student Voice Portal? I haven't had the chance yet, but hope to schedule it next week. Let me know what you discover! THANKS! Heidi On 5/6/08, Howard Kramer wrote: Hi Heidi, Actually, it's on my list to check the site for accessibility. I should be doing this in the next few days. I'll let you know what I find out. -Howard ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 12:45:00 -0500 >From: "Heidi Scher" >Subject: [Athen] Student Voice Portal >To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" > > Our university is looking at goingiwth Student Voice > Programs - an integrated assessment. > According to a PowerPoint presentation they offered to our VC of Student Affairs, they list a broad range of schools currently using Student Voice, including: Cal States (7 listed), OK Univ, Ohio State University, Colorado State Univ, UC-Boulder. Can > anyone give me your opinion on this software and > accessibility/inaccessibility? > > Many thanks to all! > Heidi > > -- > > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Interim Assistant Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > (479) 575-3104 (voice) > (479) 575-7445 (fax) > (479) 575-3646 (tty) >________________ >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From accessible.text at gmail.com Sat May 17 10:56:44 2008 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Business Case for Revision of the DAISY Standard Message-ID: <9edf8160805171056p42f703ddwde6c156dcf7338f9@mail.gmail.com> Some interesting ideas here about DAISY - check out the 'Business Case for Revision of the DAISY Standard' http://daisy.org/ZedNext/index.php?title=Main_Page From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Sat May 17 15:38:55 2008 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Tablet PC's Message-ID: <012b01c8b86e$d1b3e440$751bacc0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Hi all, I need someone who has recent experience with tablet PC's that is willing to chat with a new student with ABI that just returned from school. Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart Vice President for Operations Dolphin Computer Access Inc. 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Direct: 609 803-2174 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Sales (toll free): 866 797-5921 Support: 866 797-5921 Fax: 609 799-0475 ron.stewart@dolphinusa.com http://www.dolphinusa.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjohnson at htctu.net Sat May 17 17:03:27 2008 From: jjohnson at htctu.net (jjohnson@htctu.net) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Job Posting Message-ID: <20080517200327.8zvvnqse2sgc40s0@mail.htctu.net> Forwarding this notice for those who may be qualified and interested... Job description Requisition Number 3540529 Job title VoiceOver Software Quality Engineer Location Santa Clara Valley Country City State/Province Job type Full Time Job description Do you want to directly and positively impact the lives of many Apple customers? Do you *really* want to change the world? Apple's VoiceOver Engineering Team is seeking a Software Quality Engineer who will help test and improve future versions of VoiceOver as well as the general accessibility of Mac OS X. VoiceOver Is Apple's screenreader software that enables blind or visually impaired users to use a Macintosh. You'll be responsible for testing functionality, user experience, and performance, as well as text-to-speech and Braille display accuracy and speed. The ideal candidate will have experience with the software quality assurance process and will be extremely passionate about accessibility and VoiceOver. Job Responsibilities Include: - Defining/evolving the team's testing and performance strategy. - Developing test suites and scripts which work with Apple's automated test tools. - Testing the functionality of VoiceOver. - Testing the accessibility of many Mac OS X applications (using VoiceOver). - Contributing ideas to improve VoiceOver's user experience. - Testing alternative display devices, such as refreshable Braille displays. - Testing speech quality. - General testing of Mac OS X. Key Requirements: - BSCS or equivalent. - Experience using the UNIX command line and scripting. - Experience using screen readers and knowledge of accessibility issues. - Experience using speech synthesis. - Fluent Braille reader. - Solid testing skills. - Strong communication skills. Additional Desired Skills: - Fluency in Braille. - Experience with refreshable Braille displays and other accessibility devices. - Experience with C, Objective-C, Mac OS X, Cocoa, Carbon, and Apple's Accessibility API. BS in Computer Science or Equivalent Create Profile Email A Friend * Sign In * Search Jobs * Search Results Inside Apple * Commitment to diversity * Apple locations * Benefits * Common questions We are committed to diversity. Apple is an Equal Employment Opportunity and Affirmative Action Employer. Home>Job Opportunities>Job description From edward at ngtvoice.com Sun May 18 04:34:21 2008 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Tablet PC's In-Reply-To: <012b01c8b86e$d1b3e440$751bacc0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> References: <012b01c8b86e$d1b3e440$751bacc0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <001b01c8b8db$20092d00$601b8700$@com> Ron- we've been working with Tablets since they were in alpha.if you think we'd be helpful I'd be happy to chat with your student. My contact info is below.ed. Edward S. Rosenthal President and CEO Next Generation Technologies, Inc. (NGT Inc.) 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 Lynnwood, Wa. 998036-6334 Ph: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 Fx: 425-778-5547 Skype: ed.rosenthal7 EM: edward@ngtvoice.com http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document may have been dictated with speech recognition software. Please disregard any remaining miscrecognitions. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 3:39 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Tablet PC's Hi all, I need someone who has recent experience with tablet PC's that is willing to chat with a new student with ABI that just returned from school. Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart Vice President for Operations Dolphin Computer Access Inc. 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Direct: 609 803-2174 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Sales (toll free): 866 797-5921 Support: 866 797-5921 Fax: 609 799-0475 ron.stewart@dolphinusa.com http://www.dolphinusa.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com Sun May 18 05:53:45 2008 From: ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Tablet PC's In-Reply-To: <001b01c8b8db$20092d00$601b8700$@com> References: <012b01c8b86e$d1b3e440$751bacc0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> <001b01c8b8db$20092d00$601b8700$@com> Message-ID: <01a301c8b8e6$3943c270$abcb4750$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Thanks Ed, but I need someone at a college or university. Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ed. Rosenthal Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 7:34 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Tablet PC's Ron- we've been working with Tablets since they were in alpha.if you think we'd be helpful I'd be happy to chat with your student. My contact info is below.ed. Edward S. Rosenthal President and CEO Next Generation Technologies, Inc. (NGT Inc.) 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 Lynnwood, Wa. 998036-6334 Ph: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 Fx: 425-778-5547 Skype: ed.rosenthal7 EM: edward@ngtvoice.com http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document may have been dictated with speech recognition software. Please disregard any remaining miscrecognitions. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 3:39 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Tablet PC's Hi all, I need someone who has recent experience with tablet PC's that is willing to chat with a new student with ABI that just returned from school. Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart Vice President for Operations Dolphin Computer Access Inc. 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Direct: 609 803-2174 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Sales (toll free): 866 797-5921 Support: 866 797-5921 Fax: 609 799-0475 ron.stewart@dolphinusa.com http://www.dolphinusa.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ea at emptech.info Sun May 18 07:33:08 2008 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Tablet PC's In-Reply-To: <01a301c8b8e6$3943c270$abcb4750$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> References: <012b01c8b86e$d1b3e440$751bacc0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> <001b01c8b8db$20092d00$601b8700$@com> <01a301c8b8e6$3943c270$abcb4750$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <001801c8b8f4$1abd6550$50382ff0$@info> By Skype? I am working with a student using a Toshiba Portege and I have the latest M700 (UK version comes without a web cam sadly!). I particularly like the use of OneNote for jottings. I will be writing short tips and strategies with students in the coming months as part of the LexDis project and they should be on the web by the end of August. Cross fingers! Maybe someone nearer home on this blog may be able to help although not directly related to any access issues that may arise. http://tabletpceducation.blogspot.com/ As a warning Toshiba's come with a load of their own software from finger print to updates and management suites! It definitely pays to have a non-shiny screen and the Toshiba one seems so much better than my last one. Turn off touch and depend on pen if you keep having wayward strokes upsetting the results. Reduce the sensitivity of the mouse and in the case of the Toshiba try not to lean on the area around the touch pad when typing as the cursor will jump etc! Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: 18 May 2008 13:54 To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Tablet PC's Thanks Ed, but I need someone at a college or university.? Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ed. Rosenthal Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 7:34 AM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Tablet PC's Ron- we?ve been working with Tablets since they were in alpha if you think we?d be helpful I?d be happy to chat with your student.? My contact info is below ed. Edward S. Rosenthal President and CEO Next Generation Technologies, Inc.? (NGT Inc.) 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 Lynnwood, Wa.?? 998036-6334 Ph: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 Fx: 425-778-5547 Skype: ed.rosenthal7 EM: edward@ngtvoice.com http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document may have been dictated with speech recognition software.? Please disregard any remaining miscrecognitions. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 3:39 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Tablet PC's Hi all, I need someone who has recent experience with tablet PC?s that is willing to chat with a new student with ABI that just returned from school. Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart Vice President for Operations Dolphin Computer Access Inc. 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Direct: 609 803-2174 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Sales (toll free): 866 797-5921 Support: 866 797-5921 Fax: 609 799-0475 ron.stewart@dolphinusa.com http://www.dolphinusa.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1452 - Release Date: 17/05/2008 18:26 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1452 - Release Date: 17/05/2008 18:26 From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Mon May 19 07:10:56 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Tablet PC's References: <012b01c8b86e$d1b3e440$751bacc0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: I use a Gateway M275 tablet every day. Feel free to have your student contact me directly. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 5:39 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Tablet PC's Hi all, I need someone who has recent experience with tablet PC's that is willing to chat with a new student with ABI that just returned from school. Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart Vice President for Operations Dolphin Computer Access Inc. 231 Clarksville RD Suite 3 Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Direct: 609 803-2174 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Sales (toll free): 866 797-5921 Support: 866 797-5921 Fax: 609 799-0475 ron.stewart@dolphinusa.com http://www.dolphinusa.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Tue May 20 13:56:24 2008 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Dawn Hunziker) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] DocMorph / MyMorph accuracy? In-Reply-To: References: <012b01c8b86e$d1b3e440$751bacc0$@stewart@dolphinusa.com> Message-ID: <48333AF8.6030400@email.arizona.edu> Hi all, Has anyone used DocMorph / MyMorph to convert documents into a text format? How are they for accuracy and ease of use? I'm thinking these might be tools to recommend for LD students who need to convert image-based PDFs provided by instructors into a format that can be used with AT..... Thanks for the feedback! Dawn -- Dawn Hunziker Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center 626-9409 Web Page: http://drc.arizona.edu hunziker@email.arizona.edu Mailing Address: Disability Resouce Center 1224 E. Lowell St. Tucson, AZ 85721 From scottk44 at gmail.com Tue May 20 14:21:43 2008 From: scottk44 at gmail.com (Scott Kupferman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] DocMorph / MyMorph accuracy? In-Reply-To: <48333AF8.6030400@email.arizona.edu> References: <48333AF8.6030400@email.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <95e86fdd0805201421h4e6c57av46489ab23bb84e04@mail.gmail.com> Hi Dawn, I've been working with one of my students to test DocMorph...it's been about two months so far and we have been quite pleased. It's no ABBY and obviously lacks tools like zone editing, etc. Yet, for a free tool, it's hard to beat. We haven't installed MyMorph on any machines yet...hope to get around to it this summer. All in all, we have found it to be a useful free tool for students to independently convert basic text. Feel free to contact me off list to chat more. Scott Scott Kupferman California State University - Sonoma kupferma@sonoma.edu On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Dawn Hunziker wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone used DocMorph / MyMorph to convert documents into a text > format? How are they for accuracy and ease of use? > > I'm thinking these might be tools to recommend for LD students who need > to convert image-based PDFs provided by instructors into a format that > can be used with AT..... > > Thanks for the feedback! > > Dawn > -- > > Dawn Hunziker > Assistive Technology Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > > 626-9409 > Web Page: http://drc.arizona.edu > hunziker@email.arizona.edu > > Mailing Address: > Disability Resouce Center > 1224 E. Lowell St. > Tucson, AZ 85721 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.gardner at orst.edu Tue May 20 16:17:24 2008 From: john.gardner at orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] DocMorph / MyMorph accuracy? In-Reply-To: <95e86fdd0805201421h4e6c57av46489ab23bb84e04@mail.gmail.com> References: <48333AF8.6030400@email.arizona.edu> <95e86fdd0805201421h4e6c57av46489ab23bb84e04@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001801c8bacf$a9b2c0c0$9c1919ac@johnz> Hi. I have been using the MS Document Image Writer that comes with MS Office to import Tiffs and PDFs, OCR, and save as Word files. Thus far I've been reasonably impressed by the quality. Do you know how it compares to this DocMorph application? John _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Scott Kupferman Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:22 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] DocMorph / MyMorph accuracy? Hi Dawn, I've been working with one of my students to test DocMorph...it's been about two months so far and we have been quite pleased. It's no ABBY and obviously lacks tools like zone editing, etc. Yet, for a free tool, it's hard to beat. We haven't installed MyMorph on any machines yet...hope to get around to it this summer. All in all, we have found it to be a useful free tool for students to independently convert basic text. Feel free to contact me off list to chat more. Scott Scott Kupferman California State University - Sonoma kupferma@sonoma.edu On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Dawn Hunziker wrote: Hi all, Has anyone used DocMorph / MyMorph to convert documents into a text format? How are they for accuracy and ease of use? I'm thinking these might be tools to recommend for LD students who need to convert image-based PDFs provided by instructors into a format that can be used with AT..... Thanks for the feedback! Dawn -- Dawn Hunziker Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center 626-9409 Web Page: http://drc.arizona.edu hunziker@email.arizona.edu Mailing Address: Disability Resouce Center 1224 E. Lowell St. Tucson, AZ 85721 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tft at u.washington.edu Thu May 22 10:49:46 2008 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terry Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Deadline approaching for ATHEN e-Journal Papers Message-ID: <200805221749.m4MHnoB2005486@smtp.washington.edu> This is a reminder that the deadline for submissions to the next edition of the ATHEN e-Journal is one week away! Please consult the following announcement, and consider devoting some time to preparing your submissions while basking in the sun this holiday weekend. Thanks! -----Original Announcement ----- Subject: ATHEN e-Journal Call for Papers The ATHEN e-Journal invites submissions for its upcoming edition on the topic of "Who We Are as a Profession". Professionals in higher education whose work relates to information technology accessibility, assistive technology, disability services, alternate format production, or related fields are welcome to submit papers to be considered for publication. ATHEN is a professional association and network for Access Technologists in Higher Education. The purpose of ATHEN is to collect and disseminate best practices in access technology in the higher education environment as well as present a collective voice for the professional practice of access technology in higher education. Questions or submissions may be directed to: Terry Thompson tft@u.washington.edu University of Washington Papers should be submitted electronically; MSWord, WordPerfect, OpenOffice, or RTF are preferred formats. Submission deadline: May 31, 2008 From dabrus at purdue.edu Thu May 22 14:19:57 2008 From: dabrus at purdue.edu (Brusnighan, Dean A.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Adobe Contribute and JAWS Message-ID: <1E3DC2D62305E542B4F9CA6487E8730D065AD915@EXCH04.purdue.lcl> We use JAWS on our campus, and I have run into an issue that I don't know how to resolve. I would appreciate any guidance you might be able to provide. An educational technologist colleague has created a template in Contribute. She plans to make it available to faculty/instructors. Thus, the template has headers for sections such as "Contact information", "Syllabus information", and similar. Each header section (not editable by faculty) is followed by an editable region where the instructor can copy and paste the appropriate information. My colleague wants the template to be accessible by an instructor who may be using a screen reader. My difficulty is this. Before entering EDIT mode in Contribute, the template page reads fine with JAWS. However, when I attempted to edit the page in Contribute, simulating an instructor adding information in the editable region, the page was no longer accessible enough to be useful. To be specific, JAWS will not read the headers that identify each section of the template. Tabbing just skips from one editable region to another. Thanks for sharing any insights you might have! Dean ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dean Brusnighan Information Technology at Purdue Young Hall 302 Wood Street West Lafayette, IN 47907-2108 Phone: 765-494-9082 dabrus@purdue.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.gardner at orst.edu Thu May 22 15:20:20 2008 From: john.gardner at orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Adobe Contribute and JAWS In-Reply-To: <1E3DC2D62305E542B4F9CA6487E8730D065AD915@EXCH04.purdue.lcl> References: <1E3DC2D62305E542B4F9CA6487E8730D065AD915@EXCH04.purdue.lcl> Message-ID: <005501c8bc5a$05f32b00$9c1919ac@johnz> This is a very common problem with Jaws and all other conventional screen readers. The edit fields need to be labelled so the labels read when you TAB to the field. FYI this is one particular item for which Serotek's System Access screen reader works really well. It automatically enables editing so you don't need to keep switching back and forth between browse and non-browse mode. John _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Brusnighan, Dean A. Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:20 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Adobe Contribute and JAWS We use JAWS on our campus, and I have run into an issue that I don't know how to resolve. I would appreciate any guidance you might be able to provide. An educational technologist colleague has created a template in Contribute. She plans to make it available to faculty/instructors. Thus, the template has headers for sections such as "Contact information", "Syllabus information", and similar. Each header section (not editable by faculty) is followed by an editable region where the instructor can copy and paste the appropriate information. My colleague wants the template to be accessible by an instructor who may be using a screen reader. My difficulty is this. Before entering EDIT mode in Contribute, the template page reads fine with JAWS. However, when I attempted to edit the page in Contribute, simulating an instructor adding information in the editable region, the page was no longer accessible enough to be useful. To be specific, JAWS will not read the headers that identify each section of the template. Tabbing just skips from one editable region to another. Thanks for sharing any insights you might have! Dean ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dean Brusnighan Information Technology at Purdue Young Hall 302 Wood Street West Lafayette, IN 47907-2108 Phone: 765-494-9082 dabrus@purdue.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbailey at uoregon.edu Sun May 25 06:08:00 2008 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: Consulting work - AT & Foreign Languages Message-ID: <1211720880.834861.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Here is a possible summer project that might interest some of you. - James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu --- Forwarded Message --- Subject: Consulting work - AT & Foreign Languages -resending From: "Michele Scheib" To: Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 12:00:21 -0700 The National Clearinghouse on Disability and Exchange provides free information and referral services related to the participation of people with disabilities in international exchange programs. The Clearinghouse is sponsored by the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs of the U.S. Department of State, and is managed by Mobility International USA, which is celebrating its 27th year as a U.S.-based non-profit organization. Proposed Project: The Technicalities of Accessing Foreign Language Materials as a Blind Student Purpose: To support blind and visually impaired students in taking foreign language courses. Description of Project: This free online tool kit will assess the usability of currently available assistive technologies and software in accessing foreign language materials and classroom lessons. Primary emphasis will be on accessing the reading and writing components of critical need languages including Arabic, Chinese, Farsi, Hindi, Japanese, Korean, Russian, and Turkish (although the information will also be applicable to more commonly taught languages). The final product should provide specific reviews of technology, how-to instructions, analysis of performance, and detailed resources. Problem-solving tips and alternative solutions to barriers should be provided when possible, particularly if an assistive device or software has significant limitations or requires 'work-arounds'. It is estimated that the final product will be 40 pages or less and will review 3 - 4 of the most commonly used assistive technology devices and software. Project Need: The National Clearinghouse on Disability and Exchange (NCDE), administered by Mobility International USA, is looking for consultant(s) to research and write the proposed project. Timeline: Final Product due by September 15, 2008 (with drafts reviewed by the NCDE prior to this date). Compensation: Fee for service (upon completion). Non-profit rate preferred. To be negotiated before the estimated starting date of June 1, 2008. Format: Accessible Microsoft Word document with instructional guides and resources that can be easily published as an HTML web page. Use: This will be disseminated for free on the NCDE web site. Mobility International USA will serve as editor and hold the copyright to the material; the consultant(s) will be credited as the author(s). Audience: Foreign language students who are blind or visually impaired, and the disability providers and teachers who work with them to create alternative formats, use adaptive technology labs, etc. Type of Work: This project can be completed by one consultant, a collaborative team, or different consultants could take on stand-alone pieces (for example, divided by alternative format or by languages tested) This project will likely require access to several different types of braille and audio software and equipment to test and compare functionality with different foreign languages. MIUSA will not cover expenses of purchasing such equipment/software, so it will need to be accessed through other means such as a university language lab or individual ownership. The project will also require foreign language speakers to confirm accuracy of output and to review foreign language text to test. This will likely be minimal collaboration, in which people could volunteer their time. Some of the writing will first require Internet research, telephone interviewing and networking with people in the AT/blind community, and email/calls to organizations, companies and libraries both in the U.S. and abroad. Payment for these expenses and/or reasonable accommodation assistant fees to complete the work should be included in the fee for service request. Any information taken from other sources should be cited/credited or permission granted for use (if required). Suggested Outline: The following are areas of need to be addressed in the Tool Kit. The end product may include some or all of these and/or expanded categories. The foreign languages to be addressed in the outline below are the critical need languages cited in the "Description of the Project". NCDE will provide detailed outlines, questions to consider, some background resources and contacts to get started. 1.Overview 2.Braille Materials *Braille differences between countries *Learning braille code for a specific language *Availability of braille foreign language materials *Scanning and embossing in foreign languages *Notetaking in foreign language classrooms 3.Audio Materials *Availability of audio texts in foreign languages *Screen-reading and voice-activated software in reading and recording foreign languages *Notetaking in the foreign language classrooms 4.Large Print *Availability of large print books in foreign languages *Enlarging software and equipment and producing large print considerations for foreign languages 5.Readers and Scribes *Availability of those who know the foreign language *Ensuring they are trained appropriately in the foreign language 6.Resources Contact: Send letter of interest and resume to Michele Scheib, NCDE Project Specialist, Mobility International USA, mscheib@miusa.org, 541-343-1284 ext. 12 From SRitter at matcmadison.edu Wed May 28 11:20:30 2008 From: SRitter at matcmadison.edu (Scott Ritter) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Quick question Message-ID: <483D5C27.0775.0057.3@matcmadison.edu> Hi everyone, I have a student that uses a BrailleNote and will be taking a basic math class this summer (computation/fractions/very low level algebra). Any ideas or tips on an efficient, reliable and accurate way to provide e-text that will work well with the BrailleNote? I've tried saving as Type 2 braille in Kurzweil 1000 with marginal results, at best. We're thinking about using Abbyy 9 to OCR, save it as a word document and convert into Duxbury. Are we on the right path? Thanks! Scott J. Ritter, MS Disability Resource Specialist-Aux Aids Disability Resource Services Madison Area Technical College-Truax 608-246-6217 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We have moved from a more hands-on tutoring focused lab for students with disabilities to a center that will be a place to learn how to use assistive technologies to facilitate success in classes for both our students and our faculty. This is a full-time classified position. The successful candidate will work closely with our Alternate Media Specialist, Regina Fernandez, and one of our Teacher-Specialists, Mark Sakata. Please announce this wonderful opportunity to those you know who are knowledgeable about assistive technologies, can work collaboratively with colleagues, are committed to servicing students, and possess a good sense of humor (can you survive the community college experience without this quality?). Thanks! Kent Yamauchi Assistant Dean of Special Services Pasadena City College -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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As the title suggests, this new position will manage the Student Health Center which includes the college doctor, adjunct nurses and the full time college psychologist in addition to the DSPS program. The major duties of this position will involve the day to day operation of DSPS and the Director will be housed in the DSPS office. If you ever considered living in the desert and holding a management position this is a great opportunity. The DSPS staff is exceptional and a great team to work with. The link below will take you to the job description. You can find out much more about College of the Desert at our website: www.collegeofthedesert.edu Carl, would you please post this on every list serve to which you have access? Thank you. http://www.collegeofthedesert.edu/uploadedFiles/Director%20Stud%20Health%20 &%20Disab%20Servs%200508.pdf Michael J. O'Neill College of the Desert Coordinator of Disabled Students Programs & Services Professor - Special Education Specialist moneill@collegeofthedesert.edu (760) 773-2535 TDD: (760) 773-2598 Fax: (760) 862-1329 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 2051 bytes Desc: not available URL: From danc at washington.edu Thu May 29 16:49:25 2008 From: danc at washington.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Deep Freeze & AT In-Reply-To: <483E73C6.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> References: <483E73C6.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> Message-ID: We continue to use DeepFreeze in our major computer labs here at the University of Washington, including AT-dedicated workstations as well as a bunch of general use workstations with AT software installed. It is a great timesaver. The only software where we're addressing user profiles is with NaturallySpeaking -- on those stations we're using a program called junction.exe to point the user files to a thawed partition on the hard drive. These thawed partitions are vulnerable, however and while we've been using them for a couple of years now, there have been two instances of them being deleted by other users. For custom user settings with specific software, I've worked with students who tend to use a particular workstation to set up the relevant software as they need, save those settings while the machine is thawed, then teach them how to load those settings as needed. We're currently exploring options to make these settings files reside on a server. Unfortunately because Windows doesn't provide permissions to applications separately from users, this is a challenge. We are reconsidering use of roaming profiles for a very small subset of students on campus. We currently don't have resources to pursue this option though. We've rolled out ZoomText on a ten seat license to a few hundred machines and it seems to be working well so far. With the use of macro software and user training, it's completely conceivable that students could maintain their own user settings file on a USB drive. -*- Dan Comden danc@washington.edu Access Technology Lab http://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ University of Washington UW Technology Services On Thu, 29 May 2008, Shawn Foster wrote: > I remember seeing some posts quite some time ago about Deep Freeze and > difficulties with various AT packages that use user profiles. If you are > using Deep Freeze on your campus, would you drop me a line and let me > know how it's working with your AT software? Does it interfere with the > use of user profiles, and how have you managed it? We run JAWS, > ZoomText, and Kurzweil on our network (Kurzweil goes in this summer, > anyway) and Dragon as a machine-specific install. > > Thanks in advance! > Shawn > > Shawn Foster > Assistive Technology Specialist > Disability Services for Students > Southern Oregon University > V/TTY: (541)552-6213 > From FosterS at sou.edu Fri May 30 09:54:20 2008 From: FosterS at sou.edu (Shawn Foster) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Deep Freeze & AT In-Reply-To: References: <483E73C6.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> Message-ID: <483FCECC.82C6.005A.0@sou.edu> Dan: Thank you for taking the time to provide such a detailed response! We had to move to local profiles only earlier this year, but kept the option for students using AT to maintain a roaming profile. Sounds like this should still, for the most part, work. Again, thanks so much! Shawn Shawn Foster Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Services for Students Southern Oregon University V/TTY: (541)552-6213 >>> On 5/29/2008 at 4:49 PM, in message , Dan Comden wrote: We continue to use DeepFreeze in our major computer labs here at the University of Washington, including AT-dedicated workstations as well as a bunch of general use workstations with AT software installed. It is a great timesaver. The only software where we're addressing user profiles is with NaturallySpeaking -- on those stations we're using a program called junction.exe to point the user files to a thawed partition on the hard drive. These thawed partitions are vulnerable, however and while we've been using them for a couple of years now, there have been two instances of them being deleted by other users. For custom user settings with specific software, I've worked with students who tend to use a particular workstation to set up the relevant software as they need, save those settings while the machine is thawed, then teach them how to load those settings as needed. We're currently exploring options to make these settings files reside on a server. Unfortunately because Windows doesn't provide permissions to applications separately from users, this is a challenge. We are reconsidering use of roaming profiles for a very small subset of students on campus. We currently don't have resources to pursue this option though. We've rolled out ZoomText on a ten seat license to a few hundred machines and it seems to be working well so far. With the use of macro software and user training, it's completely conceivable that students could maintain their own user settings file on a USB drive. -*- Dan Comdendanc@washington.edu Access Technology Labhttp://www.washington.edu/computing/atl/ University of Washington UW Technology Services On Thu, 29 May 2008, Shawn Foster wrote: > I remember seeing some posts quite some time ago about Deep Freeze and > difficulties with various AT packages that use user profiles. If you are > using Deep Freeze on your campus, would you drop me a line and let me > know how it's working with your AT software? Does it interfere with the > use of user profiles, and how have you managed it? We run JAWS, > ZoomText, and Kurzweil on our network (Kurzweil goes in this summer, > anyway) and Dragon as a machine-specific install. > > Thanks in advance! > Shawn > > Shawn Foster > Assistive Technology Specialist > Disability Services for Students > Southern Oregon University > V/TTY: (541)552-6213 > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Sat May 31 17:25:06 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question re Acrobat and Word Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20080531172319.02312040@pop.gmail.com> I don't own Acrobat, but I understand that recent versions of Acrobat will put a new menu item in Word menus to save as PDF. My question is whether for this to happen I have to own Acrobat Professional or will it happen with Acrobat standard??? Norm