From rbeach at kckcc.edu Wed Oct 1 07:27:09 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Office 03/07 duo installs Message-ID: <48E3426D020000CF0001DCDE@mymail.kckcc.edu> Hello all you happy people, Can those folks who are running duo (or is that duel ) installations of Office 03 and Office 07 please let me know how it is working for you and how you ran the installs? I need the information to help support my request for duo installs on some of my systems here. I'm going to need ammo for an argument, unfortunately. Thanks! Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed Oct 1 07:29:35 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Office 03/07 duo installs In-Reply-To: <48E3426D020000CF0001DCDE@mymail.kckcc.edu> References: <48E3426D020000CF0001DCDE@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: We have dual installs in three of our labs. We have had no problems with it at all. What point are you going to have to argue? I would be happy to help. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Beach > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:27 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; > altmedia@htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu > Subject: [Athen] Office 03/07 duo installs > > Hello all you happy people, > > Can those folks who are running duo (or is that duel ) > installations of Office 03 and Office 07 please let me know how it is > working for you and how you ran the installs? I need the information > to help support my request for duo installs on some of my systems here. > I'm going to need ammo for an argument, unfortunately. > > Thanks! > > > > Robert Lee Beach > Assistive Technology Specialist > Kansas City Kansas Community College > 7250 State Avenue > Kansas City, KS 66112 > Phone: (913) 288-7671 > Fax: (913) 288-7678 > E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From rbeach at kckcc.edu Wed Oct 1 07:52:12 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Office 03/07 duo installs In-Reply-To: References: <48E3426D020000CF0001DCDE@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <48E3484C020000CF0001DCF8@mymail.kckcc.edu> I've asked for duo installs on the assistive tech computers and the e-text production systems. The response I first received was, "it can't be done because 07 overwrites 03." When I replied that I knew institutions were doing duo installs and offered to help, they then changed their tune and agreed it could be done but caused lots of probelms so they don't recommend it. I think it's simply that they don't currently know how to do this and are afraid it will take too much time on their part. Thanks for the reply. I'll add this to my stock pile. If you can share any details on how the installs were done to make it run smoothly, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Kelmer, Susan M." 10/1/2008 9:29 AM >>> We have dual installs in three of our labs. We have had no problems with it at all. What point are you going to have to argue? I would be happy to help. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Beach > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:27 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; > altmedia@htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu > Subject: [Athen] Office 03/07 duo installs > > Hello all you happy people, > > Can those folks who are running duo (or is that duel ) > installations of Office 03 and Office 07 please let me know how it is > working for you and how you ran the installs? I need the information > to help support my request for duo installs on some of my systems here. > I'm going to need ammo for an argument, unfortunately. > > Thanks! > > > > Robert Lee Beach > Assistive Technology Specialist > Kansas City Kansas Community College > 7250 State Avenue > Kansas City, KS 66112 > Phone: (913) 288-7671 > Fax: (913) 288-7678 > E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed Oct 1 07:56:49 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Office 03/07 duo installs In-Reply-To: <48E3484C020000CF0001DCF8@mymail.kckcc.edu> References: <48E3426D020000CF0001DCDE@mymail.kckcc.edu> <48E3484C020000CF0001DCF8@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: I think you are probably right, they just don't know how to do it. We have no problems with it. I've asked my tech for the procedures for install. It may be that some of our group policies are handling this at bootup as well (I'll know more once I hear back from the tech). Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed Oct 1 08:47:31 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: dual installs of 2003/2007 Message-ID: See my tech's notes below...this is how they did it. You don't need Cornerstone to do this, Cornerstone is just a security program we use to keep students from making permanent changes to machines. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: Hotze, Rose M. Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:45 AM To: Kelmer, Susan M. Subject: RE: dual installs of 2003/2007 I'm not sure if the following info is what you're looking for, so let me know if it is not. We installed Office 2003, and ran its programs. Then we installed Office 2007, and ran its programs. Your lab machines are locked down with cornerstone, so when they reboot, Office 2007 is always the last to have run. When you switch back and forth between 2007 and 2003, an installer runs for a short time (couple seconds) before the program opens. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From goodman at eri-wi.org Wed Oct 1 10:18:50 2008 From: goodman at eri-wi.org (Phillip A. Goodman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: dual installs of 2003/2007 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35216771E2794639890516521A3C645B@eriwi.local> There are a number of web postings (Google) that describe how to disable the annoying install dialog boxes that come up when switching between Office 2003 and Office 2007 on a dual install machine. Also see this web site http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928091 Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTR Assistive Technology Consultant Employment Resources, Inc. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are no the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. _____ From: Kelmer, Susan M. [mailto:SKelmer@stlcc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:48 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] FW: dual installs of 2003/2007 See my tech's notes below.this is how they did it. You don't need Cornerstone to do this, Cornerstone is just a security program we use to keep students from making permanent changes to machines. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: Hotze, Rose M. Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:45 AM To: Kelmer, Susan M. Subject: RE: dual installs of 2003/2007 I'm not sure if the following info is what you're looking for, so let me know if it is not. We installed Office 2003, and ran its programs. Then we installed Office 2007, and ran its programs. Your lab machines are locked down with cornerstone, so when they reboot, Office 2007 is always the last to have run. When you switch back and forth between 2007 and 2003, an installer runs for a short time (couple seconds) before the program opens. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5310 bytes Desc: not available URL: From skeegan at htctu.net Wed Oct 1 09:49:47 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Office 03/07 duo installs In-Reply-To: <48E3484C020000CF0001DCF8@mymail.kckcc.edu> References: <48E3426D020000CF0001DCDE@mymail.kckcc.edu> <48E3484C020000CF0001DCF8@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <001b01c923e5$b9038b70$2b0aa250$@net> > When I replied that I knew institutions were doing duo installs and offered > to help, they then changed their tune and agreed it could be done but caused > lots of probelms so they don't recommend it. While I do know of some institutions that have gotten a dual install of Office 2007 and 2003 to function on the same machine, it can cause a myriad of issues. I have tried several times to run a dual Office install and finally just gave up as I kept experiencing sudden crashes and compatibility issues with third-party plug-ins. Most of the issues seemed to revolve around MS Word and Outlook. So - yes, it can be done. But be prepared to do some maintenance on the system. There are some things that will be necessary to ensure that Word 2007 and Word 2003 do not attempt to run the installer every time the program is started, so just be prepared for some tweaking. Take care, Sean From rbeach at kckcc.edu Wed Oct 1 09:57:25 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: dual installs of 2003/2007 In-Reply-To: <35216771E2794639890516521A3C645B@eriwi.local> References: <35216771E2794639890516521A3C645B@eriwi.local> Message-ID: <48E365A5020000CF0001DD7B@mymail.kckcc.edu> Thanks! I'll go do some reading. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Phillip A. Goodman" 10/1/2008 12:18 PM >>> There are a number of web postings (Google) that describe how to disable the annoying install dialog boxes that come up when switching between Office 2003 and Office 2007 on a dual install machine. Also see this web site http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928091 Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTR Assistive Technology Consultant Employment Resources, Inc. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are no the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. _____ From: Kelmer, Susan M. [mailto:SKelmer@stlcc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:48 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] FW: dual installs of 2003/2007 See my tech's notes below.this is how they did it. You don't need Cornerstone to do this, Cornerstone is just a security program we use to keep students from making permanent changes to machines. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: Hotze, Rose M. Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:45 AM To: Kelmer, Susan M. Subject: RE: dual installs of 2003/2007 I'm not sure if the following info is what you're looking for, so let me know if it is not. We installed Office 2003, and ran its programs. Then we installed Office 2007, and ran its programs. Your lab machines are locked down with cornerstone, so when they reboot, Office 2007 is always the last to have run. When you switch back and forth between 2007 and 2003, an installer runs for a short time (couple seconds) before the program opens. From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed Oct 1 09:52:21 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Office 03/07 duo installs In-Reply-To: <001b01c923e5$b9038b70$2b0aa250$@net> References: <48E3426D020000CF0001DCDE@mymail.kckcc.edu> <48E3484C020000CF0001DCF8@mymail.kckcc.edu> <001b01c923e5$b9038b70$2b0aa250$@net> Message-ID: There is an issue if you're installing WITH MS Outlook. Since these are student machines, we aren't installing Outlook, just the rest of the suite. The "installer" window that keeps being talked about flashes and disappears so quickly on our screens that you can't even read the text before it disappears, so we consider this a complete non-issue. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From hascherdss at gmail.com Wed Oct 1 14:35:29 2008 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accommodation services needed - in Belgium Message-ID: <6e0d34c90810011435h2078cc6ahb23484d5987ff116@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, We have a student who uses transcription services (TypeWell) and he will be studying abroad in Belgium for the spring semester (possibly longer if grant funding comes through). Is anyone familiar with similar accommodations that might be available in Belgium? Assistive listening devices do not help this student. Any thoughts, ideas, contacts would be greatly appreciated!!! Heidi +++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas 479.575.3104 v 479.575.3646 t 479.575.7445 fax http://cea.uark.edu From rbeach at kckcc.edu Thu Oct 2 09:13:43 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: dual installs of 2003/2007 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48E4ACE7020000CF0001DF6F@mymail.kckcc.edu> Great! Thanks so much. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Kelmer, Susan M." 10/1/2008 10:47 AM >>> See my tech's notes below...this is how they did it. You don't need Cornerstone to do this, Cornerstone is just a security program we use to keep students from making permanent changes to machines. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: Hotze, Rose M. Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:45 AM To: Kelmer, Susan M. Subject: RE: dual installs of 2003/2007 I'm not sure if the following info is what you're looking for, so let me know if it is not. We installed Office 2003, and ran its programs. Then we installed Office 2007, and ran its programs. Your lab machines are locked down with cornerstone, so when they reboot, Office 2007 is always the last to have run. When you switch back and forth between 2007 and 2003, an installer runs for a short time (couple seconds) before the program opens. From dann at digilifemedia.biz Fri Oct 3 05:13:33 2008 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] The New and Improved Perkins Brailler In-Reply-To: <1223037277573.30707781-0224-465b-a925-e4358aefdcce@google.com> Message-ID: <32955524.2181223036013759.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> New and imprtoved with less weight, less noise, and less force - it will be with you wherever you go. [http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2008/10/03/a_lighter_touch/]? The Boston Globe has a story this morning on the new and improved Perkins Brailler . Anyone who has used one of these stalwarts of access knows they are not the most user friendly for our 21st century ultra portable ideal?of communication. While others have been mucking about with trying to add text to speech to cell phones , or make DAISY players that are unplugged on the go, or even tactile electronic paper , the engineers over at Perkins have been quietly redesigning and improving the most solid, most reliable, and most fundamental access tool of them all. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Fri Oct 3 06:17:50 2008 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] jQuery Message-ID: <6e0d34c90810030617n1a81f0beoe45ceaa4dbd02690@mail.gmail.com> Happy Friday all! Just curious if anyone has any familiarity with web design using JQuery? If so, can you give me a quick idea of the accessibility issues with using JQuery? Using it came up at our web techs meeting yesterday - first I'd heard of it, so I'm more than curious now. One person described it as using JAVA but if JAVA was turned off, the HTML would still be there. Enlightenment from anyone would be appreciated! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd From bergerei at gse.harvard.edu Fri Oct 3 06:39:43 2008 From: bergerei at gse.harvard.edu (eileen berger) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] The New and Improved Perkins Brailler In-Reply-To: <32955524.2181223036013759.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> References: <32955524.2181223036013759.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.bi z> Message-ID: <7D0A776170BE1EEE2DEC9ADB@larseng05-2> HI All, I have a colleague at Emerson College, Anthony Bashir, who asks if anyone has *a model for designing an ad hoc access technology committee or *who has conducted a survey/study of accessibility and/or *is willing to share results or their survey questions for this small liberal arts college? Thanks, Eileen --On Friday, October 03, 2008 8:13 AM -0400 Dann Berkowitz wrote: > > > New and imprtoved with less weight, less noise, and less force - it will > be with you wherever you go. > [http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2008/10/03/a_lighter_ > touch/] > > > The Boston Globe has a story this morning on the new and improved Perkins > Brailler. Anyone who has used one of these stalwarts of access knows they > are not the most user friendly for our 21st century ultra portable ideal > of communication. While others have been mucking about with trying to add > text to speech to cell phones, or make DAISY players that are unplugged > on the go, or even tactile electronic paper, the engineers over at > Perkins have been quietly redesigning and improving the most solid, most > reliable, and most fundamental access tool of them all. Eileen Connell Berger Assistant Director Office of Student Affairs, Access and Disability Services Administrator Harvard University Graduate School of Education Larsen Hall G05 14 Appian Way, Cambridge, Ma. 02138 phone: 617 495 5838 fax: 617 496 8024 bergerei@gse.harvard.edu ___________________________________________________________________ This message is intended for the designated recipient(s). It may contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, you may not review copy or distribute this message. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you. From tft at u.washington.edu Fri Oct 3 09:09:11 2008 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] jQuery In-Reply-To: <6e0d34c90810030617n1a81f0beoe45ceaa4dbd02690@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e0d34c90810030617n1a81f0beoe45ceaa4dbd02690@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005f01c92572$5ff6d080$1fe47180$@washington.edu> Hi Heidi, JQuery is one of several "Javascript libraries" that developers are using to add widgets to their sites. With tools like these developers can add complex interactive features to their web sites just by plugging in code from the libraries, rather than writing it from scratch themselves. This has potential to be a good thing for accessibility: If the libraries are accessible, then anyone who uses them ends up with accessible features on their website, even developers who wouldn't otherwise have thought much about accessibility. However, if the libraries are not accessible, the opposite is true. There are folks who are working diligently to ensure accessibility of some of the most popular libraries, including JQuery. I'm not sure what the status is of this work, but here are some helpful links: JQuery accessibility group: http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-a11y/ Dojo Toolkit Accessibility: I think Dojo was the first to include accessibility, and seems from my perspective to still be leading the pack: http://dojotoolkit.org/developer/a11yStatement Yahoo! User Interface They announced yesterday that "a handful of features" include support for accessibility: http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/10/02/yui-aria/ Terry Terry Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Heidi Scher > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 6:18 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] jQuery > > Happy Friday all! > > Just curious if anyone has any familiarity with web design using > JQuery? If so, can you give me a quick idea of the accessibility > issues with using JQuery? > > Using it came up at our web techs meeting yesterday - first I'd heard > of it, so I'm more than curious now. One person described it as using > JAVA but if JAVA was turned off, the HTML would still be there. > > Enlightenment from anyone would be appreciated! > > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From hascherdss at gmail.com Fri Oct 3 10:49:37 2008 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] jQuery In-Reply-To: <005f01c92572$5ff6d080$1fe47180$@washington.edu> References: <6e0d34c90810030617n1a81f0beoe45ceaa4dbd02690@mail.gmail.com> <005f01c92572$5ff6d080$1fe47180$@washington.edu> Message-ID: <6e0d34c90810031049p460cf1a5y27c4d9f0f2a6f011@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the information! I'll pass the info along to the group. Have a great weekend, one and all! Heidi On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Terrill Thompson wrote: > Hi Heidi, > > JQuery is one of several "Javascript libraries" that developers are using to > add widgets to their sites. With tools like these developers can add complex > interactive features to their web sites just by plugging in code from the > libraries, rather than writing it from scratch themselves. This has > potential to be a good thing for accessibility: If the libraries are > accessible, then anyone who uses them ends up with accessible features on > their website, even developers who wouldn't otherwise have thought much > about accessibility. However, if the libraries are not accessible, the > opposite is true. > > There are folks who are working diligently to ensure accessibility of some > of the most popular libraries, including JQuery. I'm not sure what the > status is of this work, but here are some helpful links: > > JQuery accessibility group: > http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-a11y/ > > Dojo Toolkit Accessibility: > I think Dojo was the first to include accessibility, and seems from my > perspective to still be leading the pack: > http://dojotoolkit.org/developer/a11yStatement > > Yahoo! User Interface > They announced yesterday that "a handful of features" include support for > accessibility: > http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/10/02/yui-aria/ > > Terry > > Terry Thompson > Technology Accessibility Specialist > DO-IT, Accessible Technology > UW Technology Services > University of Washington > tft@u.washington.edu > 206/221-4168 > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >> Behalf Of Heidi Scher >> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 6:18 AM >> To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network >> Subject: [Athen] jQuery >> >> Happy Friday all! >> >> Just curious if anyone has any familiarity with web design using >> JQuery? If so, can you give me a quick idea of the accessibility >> issues with using JQuery? >> >> Using it came up at our web techs meeting yesterday - first I'd heard >> of it, so I'm more than curious now. One person described it as using >> JAVA but if JAVA was turned off, the HTML would still be there. >> >> Enlightenment from anyone would be appreciated! >> >> Heidi >> >> +++++++++++++++ >> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC >> Associate Director >> Center for Educational Access >> University of Arkansas >> ARKU 104 >> Fayetteville, AR 72701 >> 479.575.3104 >> 479.575.7445 fax >> 479.575.3646 tdd >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From scottk44 at gmail.com Fri Oct 3 16:22:28 2008 From: scottk44 at gmail.com (Scott Kupferman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible Computer Competency Assessment Message-ID: <95e86fdd0810031622h4ba690cer70cbf717b907993@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, I've just finished the development/deployment of a general computer competency assessment that is accessible to students with disabilities. Thus, prior to diving into my assistive technology training modules, I now have an understanding of the student's general computer competency level. Has anyone come across any other accessible assessments that obtain this type of general computer competency information? I would love to compare mine with what's already out there. Thanks, Scott Scott Kupferman Assistive Technology Specialist & Lab Coordinator California State University - Sonoma -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From helen_ostrander at wvm.edu Sat Oct 4 14:01:22 2008 From: helen_ostrander at wvm.edu (Helen Ostrander) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Distance Education Requirements In-Reply-To: <95e86fdd0810031622h4ba690cer70cbf717b907993@mail.gmail.com > References: <95e86fdd0810031622h4ba690cer70cbf717b907993@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200810042057.m94Kvrgx013433@wvldap.wvmccd.cc.ca.us> Hi All, With the new Higher Education Act just being signed, I was wondering if any of you have discussed the following: "..to have processes through which the institution establishes that the student who registers in a distance education course or program is the same student who participates in and completes the program and receives the academic credit." Does anyone have a policy statement or guideline for student authentification? Thanks, Helen Helen Ostrander Coordinator/Instructor Disability Instructional Support Center (DISC) Mission College 3000 Mission College Blvd. Santa Clara, CA 95054-1897 408.855.5274 408.855.5449 FAX ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Notice: This e-mail message and/or its attachments may contain information that is confidential or restricted. It is intended only for the individuals named as recipients in the message. If you are not an authorized recipient, you are prohibited from using, delivering, distributing, printing, copying and disclosing this message or content to others and you must delete the message from your computer. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Vasquez at sbcc.edu Sun Oct 5 13:26:28 2008 From: Vasquez at sbcc.edu (Laurie Vasquez) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Distance Education Requirements In-Reply-To: <200810042057.m94Kvrgx013433@wvldap.wvmccd.cc.ca.us> References: <95e86fdd0810031622h4ba690cer70cbf717b907993@mail.gmail.com><95e86fdd0810031622h4ba690cer70cbf717b907993@mail.gmail.com > <200810042057.m94Kvrgx013433@wvldap.wvmccd.cc.ca.us> Message-ID: <48E8C083.1869.00F8.0@sbcc.edu> Helen, A WCET webinar was given on Oct. 1. Below are notes from one of the participants. This will be an ongoing discussion for everyone and will require full participation and feedback. Stay tuned, Laurie Vasquez ************************** On October 1, WCET presented a Webinar on the new "student authentication" requirements for distance learning courses mandated by the Federal Higher Education Opportunity Act, just signed by the President. This has implications for every College offering distance courses as well as ACCJC/WASC. The Webinar has been archived, and WCET has kindly given permission for free access to the education community. The link follows, after which are my notes from the Webinar. * * * The WCET webcast, "What's around the corner? Clarifying Student Authentication in the Higher Education Opportunity Act of 2008," aired live on Wed. Oct, 1, 2008 using Ellumiante Live! We thank you all for your participation and patience in making this webcast a great success. In the best interest of the distance education community, WCET has decided to allow unrestricted access to the archive of this webcast. The information is important, timely and relevant to all of higher education so we will not limit its access to WCET members only. The link to access this webcast archive is: https://sas.elluminate.com/site/external/jwsdetect/playback.jnlp?psid=2008-10-01.1008.M.31ED1FF6F672C98DC29674A39C3EDB.vcr The link will open the Elluminate Live! site and download the archive. Please be patient, I can take several minutes to load before it will play. * * * Clarifying Student Authentication in the Higher Education Opportunity Act of 2008 (Webinar) 1 Oct Attendees include Barbara Beno; LeBaron Woodyard; Chico State; 67 participants at 11:08. Fred Lokken (Chair, Instructional Technology Council) * concerned about double standard for online courses * privacy rights for students at remote locations * clarifying language that accompanies the bill: focus is on authenticating the student, no need to place an undue burden of cost on students * 4 million students taking distance ed courses * a lot of ignorance about DE in Washington, DC * committee staff was reacting to particular concerns, but it's too late now * have to be careful not to create "two classes" of students (online and f2f) in the process * NSF report on DE is required by HEOA * he was surprised to learn that some schools don't require any log in to their online courses (thus no authentication whatsoever) Kay Gilcher, Senior Policy Analyst, Dept. of Ed. * public Law 110-315; changes affect DE in Titles I & IV * Title I - general provisions, section 103 - new def. of DE * basic definition of DE: "the definition of distance education is in the HEOA, Title I. Basically, it is the use of one or more technologies to deliver instruction to students who are separated from the instructor and to support regular and substantive interaction between the students and the instructor, either synchronously or asynchronously." * includes "the use of one or more technologies to deliver instruction to students who are separated from the instructor and to support regular and substantive interaction between students & the instructor, either synchronously or asynchronously" [the point is to prevent online correspondence courses, but we need to get more info: does the law forbid online correspondence courses?? No; but investigate] * Restructuring of NACIQI (agency for ensuring quality instruction) * requires annual reports on Distance education demonstration programs, but this Demo program is now defunct though authorized * Title IV, Part H - recognition of accrediting agencies * those agencies including DE in scope "must demonstrate that its standards effectively address the quality of education offered in these modalities" (though not required to have separate standards, procedures, or policies-new!) * concerns about rapid growth of DE - accrediting agencies required to monitor growth of programs at schools experiencing significant growth; review of any addition of DE or correspondence if enrollment of school offering DE or correspondence increases by 50% or more in an institutional fiscal year * requirement placed on accred. agencies that schools can establish that the student who registers is the same student who participates in and completes the work and gets the academic credit. Now in effect * negotiated rulemaking provision with public hearings and so on so rules effective July 1, 2010. * rulemaking involves setting up committees and several negotiating sessions; publication of final rule Nov. 1, 2009; effective date July 1, 2010. * Dept. of Ed. may send "dear colleague" letter to accred agencies with interim rules * in the meantime: congress does not intend that schools have to adopt technological mechanisms right away to verify identity, but passcodes required; technological solutions may come later (it's clear that a passcode doesn't address who's actually taking the course) * Title XI studies - no money for study on comparison of quality DE vs. campus-based learning (but final report, if funded, due June 30, 2010) * www.ed.gov/HEOA * typically enrollment growth is in terms of head count rather than credit hour production, but negotiated rulemaking may change that * under the current definition, a Web-enhanced course using Bb would not be considered distance ed. and thus not included in measurement guidelines (doesn't resolve the issue of hybrids) Note from Barbara Beno in chat: ACCJC has told institutions that by 2010, what ever the new regulations require will be implemented. We've told them we'll start working with them to train and prepare them in self study, and we'll be training teams. In addition, the Regional Accreditors are going to work together to develop a common approach, and will be involved in neg reg. Lori McNabb, www.uttc.org, academic integrity in online education * reference to Feb. WCET briefing paper * what is dishonesty? Plagiarism, self-plagiarism (same assignment for two or more courses when forbidden), unpermitted collaboration, unauthorized help; cheating (incl. getting copy of test from others; using outside materials when not allowed, etc.-incl. when a student has someone else complete coursework-this is what is addressed by the law) * creating culture of integrity * capella university online writing center * university of maryland - VAIL (Virtual Academic Integrity Lab) - for faculty and students * MERLOT and other materials for anti-plagiarism - set up Bb shell * utah valley state - spoof of Letterman - video of person on street with questions about cheating * course design ideas * utah valley state - cheatability rubric * links within LMS to campus policies * submittable form student fills out with email and name - kept in campus database * Questionmark Secure * javascript Code within Bb keeps student from being able to copy (bit of code added to instructions within quiz) * SafeAssign * creation of ethical community * identity verification technologies: * password requirements * traditional proctoring * Acxiom uses biographical data which creates challenge exams for individual * Software Secure Secureexam remote proctor * Kryterion Webassessor (gathers biometric data) * attributes of a typical cheater: males, undergrads, younger, unmarried, students with low gpa's; business students (declining a bit); engineering students; increasing: explicit test cheating, collaborative cheating, cheating by women * lmcnabb@utsystem.edu * in grade school many students are constantly encouraged to work together; in college now they're told that they can't collaborate-a cultural issue! * cost of technologies - acxiom factcheck (finished beta testing, 6 or 7 schools using this semester); secure exam: commercially available; kryterion has been available for a while. All being represented at WCET conference. * use of these technologies fairly low so far; acxiom around $10 per student per test (but new pricing models available); remote proctor: (troy u.) $150 purchased through bookstore. Acxiom is working with Bb with some clients in queue. Kryterion can be integrated with Bb, too (maybe). Kay Gilcher (in Q&A period) * hard to say what will have to change; schools work with accred. agencies * at the least - secure login; looking at course integrity & design (also need to educate lawmakers about what is being done now) Lori McNabb * do some research - are DE students cheating more than f2f students? (has access to standardized study results) My question-how likely will it be that accred. orgs will mandate expensive tech. solutions? * Fred - what data or just perception of different behavior online? Could result in real expense for students * Rhonda Epper - we've bought some time, with secure logins and course design, but schools should be looking at some of these tech. solutions * Kay Gilcher - surprised at suspicion of DE at federal level; but the range of schools is very broad and some of the things that do go on aren't so good for the integrity of DE (DE for some is a big money-maker!) - so that's where a lot of the law comes from Q-collecting biometrics on students - privacy? will come up during negotiated rulemaking CSUC asks if the tech. products mentioned are section 508 compliant. Q-Portland Comm. College (John Smead??) * Lori - if we focus on authenticating tests then online will be only about testing (since it's relatively easy for tests to be proctored) Q-Penn State - notarization possible? * Lori - haven't heard about this Q-LeBaron - tech. element for CCC's would be expensive-Title 5 regs surrounding fees-would have to be approved by legislature & gov. for new fees to be instituted. A fee for assessment would likely be prohibited by California Title 5. Rhonda Epper * suggests flex programs for considering enhancing academic integrity * working with IT on technical authentication * a WCET e-topic * molly mcgill wcet staff mmcgill@wcet.info >>> Helen Ostrander 10/4/2008 2:01 PM >>> Hi All, With the new Higher Education Act just being signed, I was wondering if any of you have discussed the following: "..to have processes through which the institution establishes that the student who registers in a distance education course or program is the same student who participates in and completes the program and receives the academic credit." Does anyone have a policy statement or guideline for student authentification? Thanks, Helen Helen Ostrander Coordinator/Instructor Disability Instructional Support Center (DISC) Mission College 3000 Mission College Blvd. Santa Clara, CA 95054-1897 408.855.5274 408.855.5449 FAX ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Notice: This e-mail message and/or its attachments may contain information that is confidential or restricted. It is intended only for the individuals named as recipients in the message. If you are not an authorized recipient, you are prohibited from using, delivering, distributing, printing, copying and disclosing this message or content to others and you must delete the message from your computer. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail. From skeegan at htctu.net Sun Oct 5 14:22:21 2008 From: skeegan at htctu.net (skeegan@htctu.net) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: New Web Accessibility Position at the Univ of Michigan--Inline Description Message-ID: <20081005172221.gunisyhrlwgooo84@sheridan.swishmail.com> Job posting at the University of Michigan for those interested in Web accessibility. Please see below for more information. Take care, Sean *********** The University of Michigan seeks a candidate for the position of Campus Web Accessibility and Adaptive Technology Coordinator reporting to the Office of Institutional Equity. The Web Accessibility Coordinator will work closely with campus administrators who concentrate on other accessibility issues to help identify and eliminate barriers to an open educational and working environment; their combined efforts will help move the University toward a position of leadership in all areas of accessibility. This Coordinator will: ? support and advocate for the use and development of accessible interface technologies for people with disabilities; ? provide leadership and professional technical expertise to ensure that University content is accessible on line and elsewhere to students, faculty, staff and community members with disabilities; ? establish partnerships and ongoing communication with a wide variety of campus groups including centralized administrative groups and relatively autonomous groups within the University; ? help define, develop, and communicate web accessibility best practices for the U-M environment; ?make recommendations for continued institutional program expansion and development; ?and provide administrative support and direction to the campus units involved in web development. ?develop a systematic training program for faculty, staff, and students in web accessibility practices and opportunities; ?promote and communicate activities and related programs; ?coordinate with others in all areas of accessibility. Required Qualifications Candidates should have an understanding of web communications and adaptive technologies; compliance standards for web accessibility; evaluations tools; experience in policy development and administration; and strong project management skills. Specific qualifications include: ? A Bachelors degree, advanced degree preferred ? 3+ years of professional experience in project management and cross-disciplinary programs and policy development. ?Ability to create budgets and budget forecasts. ? Ability to work collaboratively across the University and with other groups to develop proposals surrounding issues of accessibility. ? Excellent organizational, interpersonal, written, and verbal communication skills. Preferred Qualifications Experience in accessibility issues for persons with disabilities highly preferred. Past teaching and/or training experience preferred. Experience in development of online instructional material preferred. Technical writing experience preferred.Please pass this information on to others who may also be interested. To apply, you need to do so electronically at http://www.umich.edu/~jobs/ If an applicant experiences any problems with using the website with accessibility software, please have them contact Carole Dubritsky directly at the number provided below. Carole F. Dubritsky Assistant Director and ADA Coordinator University of Michigan Office of Institutional Equity 1009 Greene St. Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1432 (V) 734-763-0235 (TTY) 734- 647-1388 (Fax) 734-936-8894 -------------- next part -------------- Hi Everyone-- It appears as if the attachment was stripped out. So here is the description: The University of Michigan seeks a candidate for the position of Campus Web Accessibility and Adaptive Technology Coordinator reporting to the Office of Institutional Equity. The Web Accessibility Coordinator will work closely with campus administrators who concentrate on other accessibility issues to help identify and eliminate barriers to an open educational and working environment; their combined efforts will help move the University toward a position of leadership in all areas of accessibility. This Coordinator will: ? support and advocate for the use and development of accessible interface technologies for people with disabilities; ? provide leadership and professional technical expertise to ensure that University content is accessible on line and elsewhere to students, faculty, staff and community members with disabilities; ? establish partnerships and ongoing communication with a wide variety of campus groups including centralized administrative groups and relatively autonomous groups within the University; ? help define, develop, and communicate web accessibility best practices for the U-M environment; ?make recommendations for continued institutional program expansion and development; ?and provide administrative support and direction to the campus units involved in web development. ?develop a systematic training program for faculty, staff, and students in web accessibility practices and opportunities; ?promote and communicate activities and related programs; ?coordinate with others in all areas of accessibility. Required Qualifications Candidates should have an understanding of web communications and adaptive technologies; compliance standards for web accessibility; evaluations tools; experience in policy development and administration; and strong project management skills. Specific qualifications include: ? A Bachelors degree, advanced degree preferred ? 3+ years of professional experience in project management and cross-disciplinary programs and policy development. ?Ability to create budgets and budget forecasts. ? Ability to work collaboratively across the University and with other groups to develop proposals surrounding issues of accessibility. ? Excellent organizational, interpersonal, written, and verbal communication skills. Preferred Qualifications Experience in accessibility issues for persons with disabilities highly preferred. Past teaching and/or training experience preferred. Experience in development of online instructional material preferred. Technical writing experience preferred.Please pass this information on to others who may also be interested. To apply, you need to do so electronically at http://www.umich.edu/~jobs/ If an applicant experiences any problems with using the website with accessibility software, please have them contact Carole Dubritsky directly at the number provided below. Carole F. Dubritsky Assistant Director and ADA Coordinator University of Michigan Office of Institutional Equity 1009 Greene St. Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1432 (V) 734-763-0235 (TTY) 734- 647-1388 (Fax) 734-936-8894 Mike [see attachment: "elledge.vcf", size: 326 bytes] Attachments: elledge.vcf https://collab.sakaiproject.org//access/content/attachment/5ec868e7-27dd-4b01-a951-26c1c1b6eedf/elledge.vcf ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org//portal) from the WG: Accessibility site. 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If you are interested, the URL for the posting is: http://jobs.columbia.edu/applicants/Central?quickFind=113083 Best, Chris ___________________________________ Christopher Doucet Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Disability Services Health Services at Columbia Alfred Lerner Hall, 7th Floor 2920 Broadway, MC 2605 New York, NY 10027 Tel: (212) 854-2388 Fax: (212) 854-3448 TTY: (212) 854-2378 www.health.columbia.edu This e-mail message and any attachments are private communication and may contain confidential, privileged information meant solely for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message, then delete the e-mail and any attachments from your system. Thank you. From tft at u.washington.edu Tue Oct 7 04:40:22 2008 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] jQuery References: <6e0d34c90810030617n1a81f0beoe45ceaa4dbd02690@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000701c92871$7e330c60$7a992520$@washington.edu> Heidi and others, I'm currently at the HighEdWeb conference, where this issue (accessibility of Javascript frameworks) has come up repeatedly in multiple sessions. I'm excited to see such a strong interest in accessibility among the higher ed web developers here. Given the interest in this topic, I've expanded on my early reply in a blog post at http://terrillthompson.com Terry > -----Original Message----- > From: Terrill Thompson [mailto:tft@u.washington.edu] > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 9:09 AM > To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' > Subject: RE: [Athen] jQuery > > Hi Heidi, > > JQuery is one of several "Javascript libraries" that developers are > using to add widgets to their sites. With tools like these developers > can add complex interactive features to their web sites just by > plugging in code from the libraries, rather than writing it from > scratch themselves. This has potential to be a good thing for > accessibility: If the libraries are accessible, then anyone who uses > them ends up with accessible features on their website, even developers > who wouldn't otherwise have thought much about accessibility. However, > if the libraries are not accessible, the opposite is true. > > There are folks who are working diligently to ensure accessibility of > some of the most popular libraries, including JQuery. I'm not sure what > the status is of this work, but here are some helpful links: > > JQuery accessibility group: > http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-a11y/ > > Dojo Toolkit Accessibility: > I think Dojo was the first to include accessibility, and seems from my > perspective to still be leading the pack: > http://dojotoolkit.org/developer/a11yStatement > > Yahoo! User Interface > They announced yesterday that "a handful of features" include support > for accessibility: > http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/10/02/yui-aria/ > > Terry > > Terry Thompson > Technology Accessibility Specialist > DO-IT, Accessible Technology > UW Technology Services > University of Washington > tft@u.washington.edu > 206/221-4168 > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On > > Behalf Of Heidi Scher > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 6:18 AM > > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > > Subject: [Athen] jQuery > > > > Happy Friday all! > > > > Just curious if anyone has any familiarity with web design using > > JQuery? If so, can you give me a quick idea of the accessibility > > issues with using JQuery? > > > > Using it came up at our web techs meeting yesterday - first I'd heard > > of it, so I'm more than curious now. One person described it as using > > JAVA but if JAVA was turned off, the HTML would still be there. > > > > Enlightenment from anyone would be appreciated! > > > > Heidi > > > > +++++++++++++++ > > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > > Associate Director > > Center for Educational Access > > University of Arkansas > > ARKU 104 > > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > > 479.575.3104 > > 479.575.7445 fax > > 479.575.3646 tdd > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From dann at digilifemedia.biz Wed Oct 8 13:07:19 2008 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: staffing changes at the HTCTU In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <32071061.291223496439477.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> Sean is buying the first round in Colorado. -------------------- Daniel Berkowitz Digilife Media, LLC 1 Bryant Avenue Bradford, MA 01835-7424 phone: 978-914-4601 e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz web: www.digilifemedia.biz ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Carl Brown" To: "Alternate Media" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 12:46:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: staffing changes at the HTCTU Dear Colleagues: After being with the High Tech Center Training Unit for almost 7 years, Sean Keegan will be resigning effective November 21, 2008 to take a position as Assistant Director of Assistive Technology at Stanford University. Those of us here at the High Tech Center Training Unit, and I am sure each of you at colleges and universities around the state and country, wish Sean all the best in his new position. We will miss his professional expertise as well as the patience and thoroughness with which he served as the Web accessibility specialist for the California community colleges. During his last weeks here at the High Tech Center, Sean will be involved with helping to develop a collaborative project with @One designed to produce a web-based training resource which will help faculty and staff understand the process of creating fully accessible online resources. At some point in the near future we will be having Sean's official going away party. At this point, it looks like a potluck get-together at my home here in Cupertino. If you live in the South Bay and would like to attend the potluck,I will give you more information as it becomes available. I have already begun working with the human resources department at the Foothill/DeAnza Community college District to fill the soon to be vacant position. I will post the job announcement as soon as it becomes available. In the interim, if you know of anyone who you think might be qualified for this challenging and dynamic position, please let them know about its coming availability. Once again, our congratulations and fond farewells to Sean. -- Carl Brown, Director High Tech Center Training Unit 21050 McClellan Road Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 996-6047 www.htctu.net The HTCTU provides leadership, training, and support to the California community colleges in using technology to promote the success of students with disabilities. From jfoliot at stanford.edu Wed Oct 8 13:36:15 2008 From: jfoliot at stanford.edu (John Foliot) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning Web Videos - and some feedback from you all please Message-ID: <010e01c92985$823e9b20$86bbd160$@edu> Hello All! Apologies if you get this multiple times, as I am sending it out to a number of web accessibility lists. Creating captioned web media is something that is not easy to do right now - this we already know. Getting captioned iTunes media is even harder, although it is possible, as the following link(s) will illustrate: http://acomp.stanford.edu/atl/atr/podcast/atr13.mov http://acomp.stanford.edu/atl/atr/podcast/atr12.mov (these are both also available via the iTunes store: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=272900846 ) The exciting thing is however, that it can be done, although it remains a bit of a manual challenge to produce these files - a simple "turn-key" solution really doesn't exist right now (but there *is* work being done in this area). Along with the challenge of the technical part of this process however is some other, less technical aspects, and the purpose of this note: In the first referenced video above (atr13.mov) the video stream features some rap lyrics in foreign languages. For the purpose of the caption/transcription, my associate Kim simply noted "Japanese Rap", "German Rap", etc. Given that she's already adding to her work flow by ensuring her podcasts are now captioned, I congratulated her on a job well done and started telling everyone about the files above. But the question of multi-lingual content within a caption file remains one that I am unsure of, exactly. Is this as much a "policy" kind of question as it is one of technical discussion: 1) should we provide the foreign transcript in the caption file? (this raises questions of i11n as well, especially with the Japanese rap and foreign character sets) 2) should we provide, instead, a translation of the rap? (even if it is somewhat out of context; plus then we are providing information that non-caption choice users are not getting, so is this right?) 3) is Kim's choice of simply noting "Japanese Rap" or "German Rap" sufficient? 4) What kind of support do the various media players have for i11n switching on the fly? (If in fact this is what needs to happen, or will all the foreign text/character sets simply follow through from the initial transcript/caption file? - I am thinking of alternative output as well - Braille for example). Can we (should we) be thinking about the lang attribute here (DFXP can accept it) - and if yes, how, and will, Adaptive Technology be able to take advantage of it? 5) are there any other aspects of multi-language multi-media that I've overlooked that we should be thinking about? Now I suppose that these questions are also ones posed within the caption/transcription community already (TV and Movie for example), but I have not found any definitive information about this so far (in my limited Google quest), and the delivery via the web of multi-media has its own unique abilities and constraints that other forms of media delivery may or may not share. So... thoughts? Comments? Ideas? Realizing that you might not subscribe to all of the lists I'm sending this out to, I will recap the discussions on Friday, Oct. 10th. Thanks in advance for your participation JF From blrichwine at gmail.com Wed Oct 8 14:06:01 2008 From: blrichwine at gmail.com (Brian Richwine) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning Web Videos - and some feedback from you all please In-Reply-To: <010e01c92985$823e9b20$86bbd160$@edu> References: <010e01c92985$823e9b20$86bbd160$@edu> Message-ID: <62a0ac600810081406i743c7411he21651535b5432e5@mail.gmail.com> To handle all the international character sets, the proper character encoding must be supported. The QTtext format used by QuickTime supports various formats of the Unicode character encoding standards which allows for most every languages characters to be encoded. QuickTime will make font substitutions as needed to display the requested characters as many fonts don't cover the entirety of characters. From what I've read, the trick comes in generating the QTtext with the proper character encoding in the first place. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:36 PM, John Foliot wrote: > Hello All! > > Apologies if you get this multiple times, as I am sending it out to a > number of web accessibility lists. > > Creating captioned web media is something that is not easy to do right now > - this we already know. Getting captioned iTunes media is even harder, > although it is possible, as the following link(s) will illustrate: > > http://acomp.stanford.edu/atl/atr/podcast/atr13.mov > http://acomp.stanford.edu/atl/atr/podcast/atr12.mov > > (these are both also available via the iTunes store: > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=272900846 > ) > > The exciting thing is however, that it can be done, although it remains a > bit of a manual challenge to produce these files - a simple "turn-key" > solution really doesn't exist right now (but there *is* work being done in > this area). > > Along with the challenge of the technical part of this process however is > some other, less technical aspects, and the purpose of this note: In the > first referenced video above (atr13.mov) the video stream features some > rap lyrics in foreign languages. For the purpose of the > caption/transcription, my associate Kim simply noted "Japanese Rap", > "German Rap", etc. Given that she's already adding to her work flow by > ensuring her podcasts are now captioned, I congratulated her on a job well > done and started telling everyone about the files above. > > But the question of multi-lingual content within a caption file remains > one that I am unsure of, exactly. Is this as much a "policy" kind of > question as it is one of technical discussion: > > 1) should we provide the foreign transcript in the caption file? (this > raises questions of i11n as well, especially with the Japanese rap and > foreign character sets) > > 2) should we provide, instead, a translation of the rap? (even if it is > somewhat out of context; plus then we are providing information that > non-caption choice users are not getting, so is this right?) > > 3) is Kim's choice of simply noting "Japanese Rap" or "German Rap" > sufficient? > > 4) What kind of support do the various media players have for i11n > switching on the fly? (If in fact this is what needs to happen, or will > all the foreign text/character sets simply follow through from the initial > transcript/caption file? - I am thinking of alternative output as well - > Braille for example). Can we (should we) be thinking about the lang > attribute here (DFXP can accept it) - and if yes, how, and will, Adaptive > Technology be able to take advantage of it? > > 5) are there any other aspects of multi-language multi-media that I've > overlooked that we should be thinking about? > > Now I suppose that these questions are also ones posed within the > caption/transcription community already (TV and Movie for example), but I > have not found any definitive information about this so far (in my limited > Google quest), and the delivery via the web of multi-media has its own > unique abilities and constraints that other forms of media delivery may or > may not share. > > So... thoughts? Comments? Ideas? > > Realizing that you might not subscribe to all of the lists I'm sending > this out to, I will recap the discussions on Friday, Oct. 10th. > > Thanks in advance for your participation > > JF > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Wed Oct 8 14:44:07 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: staffing changes at the HTCTU In-Reply-To: <32071061.291223496439477.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> References: <32071061.291223496439477.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> Message-ID: <48ED29A7.7060003@mcmail.maricopa.edu> Hear Hear! Congratulations Sean!! Wink Dann Berkowitz wrote: > Sean is buying the first round in Colorado. > > -------------------- > Daniel Berkowitz > Digilife Media, LLC > 1 Bryant Avenue > Bradford, MA 01835-7424 > > phone: 978-914-4601 > e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz > web: www.digilifemedia.biz > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: "Carl Brown" > To: "Alternate Media" > Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 12:46:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: staffing changes at the HTCTU > > Dear Colleagues: > > After being with the High Tech Center Training Unit for almost 7 years, > Sean Keegan will be resigning effective November 21, 2008 to take a > position as Assistant Director of Assistive Technology at Stanford > University. Those of us here at the High Tech Center Training Unit, and > I am sure each of you at colleges and universities around the state and > country, wish Sean all the best in his new position. > > We will miss his professional expertise as well as the patience and > thoroughness with which he served as the Web accessibility specialist > for the California community colleges. During his last weeks here at the > High Tech Center, Sean will be involved with helping to develop a > collaborative project with @One designed to produce a web-based training > resource which will help faculty and staff understand the process of > creating fully accessible online resources. > > At some point in the near future we will be having Sean's official going > away party. At this point, it looks like a potluck get-together at my > home here in Cupertino. If you live in the South Bay and would like to > attend the potluck,I will give you more information as it becomes available. > > I have already begun working with the human resources department at the > Foothill/DeAnza Community college District to fill the soon to be vacant > position. I will post the job announcement as soon as it becomes > available. In the interim, if you know of anyone who you think might be > qualified for this challenging and dynamic position, please let them > know about its coming availability. > > Once again, our congratulations and fond farewells to Sean. > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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QuickTime will make font > substitutions as needed to display the requested characters as many fonts > don't cover the entirety of characters. From what I've read, the trick comes > in generating the QTtext with the proper character encoding in the first > place. I captioned a bunch of videos today. The videos are in Flash (not my choice, but fine), so I used the techniques here: http://www.digital-web.com/articles/captions_flash_video/ You can see the result here: http://www.uri.edu/news/video/ Perhaps not the best solution, but It was terrifically easy to do. (And Flash will encourage you to embed character set information if necessary.) --Kerri From lornas at csufresno.edu Wed Oct 8 16:15:48 2008 From: lornas at csufresno.edu (Lorna Saiz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: staffing changes at the HTCTU In-Reply-To: <48ED29A7.7060003@mcmail.maricopa.edu> References: <32071061.291223496439477.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> <48ED29A7.7060003@mcmail.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: Wow, Congratulations! You deserve it Sean.!! Lorna Saiz Accessible Technology Coordinator Services for Students with Disabilities California State University, Fresno University Center Room 5 M/S ML125 Ph: 559.278.2811 - Fax: 559.278.4214 lornas@csufresno.edu http://www.csufresno.edu/ssd ----- Original Message ----- From: Wink Harner Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 2:52 pm Subject: Re: [Athen] Fwd: staffing changes at the HTCTU To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Hear Hear! > > Congratulations Sean!! > > Wink > > > Dann Berkowitz wrote: > > Sean is buying the first round in Colorado. > > > > -------------------- > > Daniel Berkowitz > > Digilife Media, LLC > > 1 Bryant Avenue > > Bradford, MA 01835-7424 > > > > phone: 978-914-4601 > > e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz > > web: www.digilifemedia.biz > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > From: "Carl Brown" > > To: "Alternate Media" > > Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 12:46:04 PM GMT -05:00 > US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: staffing changes at the HTCTU > > > > Dear Colleagues: > > > > After being with the High Tech Center Training Unit for almost 7 > years, > > Sean Keegan will be resigning effective November 21, 2008 to > take a > > position as Assistant Director of Assistive Technology at > Stanford > > University. Those of us here at the High Tech Center Training > Unit, and > > I am sure each of you at colleges and universities around the > state and > > country, wish Sean all the best in his new position. > > > > We will miss his professional expertise as well as the patience > and > > thoroughness with which he served as the Web accessibility > specialist > > for the California community colleges. During his last weeks > here at the > > High Tech Center, Sean will be involved with helping to develop > a > > collaborative project with @One designed to produce a web-based > training > > resource which will help faculty and staff understand the > process of > > creating fully accessible online resources. > > > > At some point in the near future we will be having Sean's > official going > > away party. At this point, it looks like a potluck get-together > at my > > home here in Cupertino. If you live in the South Bay and would > like to > > attend the potluck,I will give you more information as it > becomes available. > > > > I have already begun working with the human resources department > at the > > Foothill/DeAnza Community college District to fill the soon to > be vacant > > position. I will post the job announcement as soon as it becomes > > available. In the interim, if you know of anyone who you think > might be > > qualified for this challenging and dynamic position, please let > them > > know about its coming availability. > > > > Once again, our congratulations and fond farewells to Sean. > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Benchmarking Microsoft Word 95 through Word 2007 http://www.oooninja.com/2008/07/benchmarking-microsoft-word-95-2007.html Ron ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabilities Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 97 Harris Rd Princeton Junction, NJ 08550 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Office: 609 799-7552 Fax: 609 799-7552 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never know how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something to look forward to in the morning! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A previous porting may be of reference: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/2008-August/002791.html and benchmarks are here: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080821/78f5f447/attachment-0001.doc Truly, Robert Iakobashvili, Ph.D. www.ghotit.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Thu Oct 9 20:41:34 2008 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] MS Word Benchmarking In-Reply-To: <7e63f56c0810091448u7dbc9763y560d30782ac8f2fb@mail.gmail.com> References: <017b01c92a47$5d1f3260$175d9720$@org> <7e63f56c0810091448u7dbc9763y560d30782ac8f2fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01e101c92a8a$1a7776a0$4f6663e0$@org> I agree there are some good features in Word 2007 and some great add ons as well. I am working on a lot of alt format conversion and I will tell you that due to the performance issues with Word 2007 I am going to stick with Word 2003 as long as I can. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Iakobashvili Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 5:48 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Cc: Ofer Chermesh Subject: Re: [Athen] MS Word Benchmarking Hi Ron, On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: Some might find this interesting, more ammo on why to stick to Word 2003 if you can. Benchmarking Microsoft Word 95 through Word 2007 http://www.oooninja.com/2008/07/benchmarking-microsoft-word-95-2007.html ********************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Thanks, very interesting link. If LD students are properly guided and instructed, there are reasons to move to contextual spelling editors like Word-2007 and Ghotit with Word plugins coming very soon. A previous porting may be of reference: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/2008-August/002791.html and benchmarks are here: http://athenpro.org/pipermail/athen_athenpro.org/attachments/20080821/78f5f4 47/attachment-0001.doc Truly, Robert Iakobashvili, Ph.D. www.ghotit.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coroberti at gmail.com Thu Oct 9 22:59:46 2008 From: coroberti at gmail.com (Robert Iakobashvili) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] [ATHEN] MS Word Benchmarking In-Reply-To: <01e101c92a8a$1a7776a0$4f6663e0$@org> References: <017b01c92a47$5d1f3260$175d9720$@org> <7e63f56c0810091448u7dbc9763y560d30782ac8f2fb@mail.gmail.com> <01e101c92a8a$1a7776a0$4f6663e0$@org> Message-ID: <7e63f56c0810092259y3bc7a128lcd3bab61e6bdd895@mail.gmail.com> Dear Ron, On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:41 AM, Ron Stewart wrote: > I agree there are some good features in Word 2007 and some great add ons > as well. I am working on a lot of alt format conversion and I will tell you > that due to the performance issues with Word 2007 I am going to stick with > Word 2003 as long as I can. > > > > Ron Stewart > > Indeed, there are some performance issues with Word-2007. Office-2007 requires at least 1 GB of RAM memory, and modern dual or quad-core CPUs. More issues are coming with compartability with some old printers. Truly, Robert Iakobashvili, Ph.D. ...................................................................... www.ghotit.com Assistive technology that understands you ...................................................................... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmhaven at stanford.edu Fri Oct 10 12:39:46 2008 From: rmhaven at stanford.edu (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: staffing changes at the HTCTU In-Reply-To: <200810082352.m98NqMlY021567@mail.ucla.edu> References: <32071061.291223496439477.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> <200810082352.m98NqMlY021567@mail.ucla.edu> Message-ID: Well, we strive to be the best. ;-) - Shelley Haven At 4:52 PM -0700 10/8/08, Patrick Burke wrote: >>Congratulations Sean! > >... Although as A Bruin I am more than a little alarmed by >Stanford's stockpiling of a11y knowledge! :) > >Patrick > > > >-- >Patrick J. Burke > >Coordinator >UCLA Disabilities & >Computing Program > >Phone: 310 206-6004 >E-mail: burke ucla. edu > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu Sat Oct 11 00:11:05 2008 From: Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu (Nusen, Michael) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Exempt Position Announcement: Alternate Format/Assistive Technology Specialist @ Pikes Peak Community College, Colorado Springs, Colorado Message-ID: The full job description can be found at https://employment.ppcc.edu/index.cfm?fuseaction=show_job&job_id=821 Interested candidates must apply on-line at http://employment.ppcc.edu . All application materials must be received by 4:00 p.m. on the position's closing date (10-24-08) to be considered. Inquiries regarding this position announcement should be directed to Patricia Padeway at 719.502.2296 or patricia.padeway@ppcc.edu. Alternate Format & Assistive Technology Specialist Full Time VPSS - Vice President for Student Services - Office of Accommodative Services and Instructional Support The purpose of the position of Alternate Format and Assistive Technology Specialist is to provide students with disabilities academic Alternate Format materials (e.g. Braille, electronic, print formats, etc.) and to train students on how to access these materials via the use of hardware and software technology. Minimum Qualifications: * Associate's degree in information technology (computer science, computer information systems or rehabilitation technology) or a Human Services field * 2 years of work experience using computer application software (other than standard desktop applications) * 1 year of work experience as part of a team work environment Application Process: Please submit a cover letter, resume, transcripts (unofficial), and the names, addresses, and telephone numbers of three recent job-related references who can address your expertise and background for this position. The cover letter must specifically address each of the qualifications listed under Minimum Qualifications and Preferred Qualifications in the exact same order in which they are listed in this announcement. Salary is $2,985.00 per month. All application materials must be received by Friday, October 24, 2008 to be considered. 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How about even having a drop down combo box with choices they are to select? and imagine making it so it would be fully accessible to people using adaptive technologies? Don't imagine it any more! This Webinar will demonstrate just how you can do that. This is a much more professional way to collect information, and this Webinar will show that it isn't really very difficult. You need to register in advance. This will guarantee you a seat in the Webinar room and it will also mean that you will received a link to the recording 2-3 days after the presentation. Register from the link on the EASI Webinar page: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm Note the other public and fee-based Webinars while you are there. Also, in November the month-long EASI online course is about accessible e-learning and how faculty can create accessible course content http://easi.cc/workshops/bfel.htm Norm Coombs From johumber at iupui.edu Mon Oct 13 06:26:23 2008 From: johumber at iupui.edu (Humbert, Joseph A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATHEN iTunes Accessibility Survey Message-ID: Hi All! Thank you to all of those who filled out our survey we had 30+ responses. I will post the results to the ATHEN listserv (athen@athenpro.org) and the ATHEN website after I present them at Accessing Higher Ground. Let us hope more initiatives like this get results from companies. Thank You ATHEN iTunes U Accessibility Working Group. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From kerscher at montana.com Mon Oct 13 20:37:16 2008 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] simple question In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20081013195824.0227a0a8@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20081013195824.0227a0a8@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601c92dae$2c851b50$858f51f0$@com> Norm, 1. Open a command prompt in the folder you want to print out. 2. type: dir/b >filename The /b means bare, without date size etc, just the file name. The >(greater sign) is a direct to a file, which will get created. 3. Do this in the other folder and you can compare the two files. Hope that works. >From the old DOS days, grin! Best George > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:00 PM > To: athen-athenpro.org > Subject: [Athen] simple question > > I have 2 directories in which many of the items are identical. I'd > like to > print off a hard copy of the listing of each directory on 2 sheets of > hard > copy paper and then match them side by side. > > How can I print a hard copy of the list of file names in a directory? > Norm > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com > CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information > phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) > ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: > http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From akirkpat at adobe.com Mon Oct 13 10:01:55 2008 From: akirkpat at adobe.com (Andrew Kirkpatrick) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning Web Videos - and some feedback from you all please In-Reply-To: <010e01c92985$823e9b20$86bbd160$@edu> References: <010e01c92985$823e9b20$86bbd160$@edu> Message-ID: <5076E68FCD2E91428C2479984A81E1147B0DAC66A9@NAMBX01.corp.adobe.com> John, I'll respond to these... The exciting thing is however, that it can be done, although it remains a bit of a manual challenge to produce these files - a simple "turn-key" solution really doesn't exist right now (but there *is* work being done in this area). AWK: there's a variety of solutions, some that are manual do-it-yourself captioning tools (e.g. MAGpie, Captionate, HiCaption), some are professional solutions (e.g. "please caption this for me...here's some money"), and others are semi-automated 1) should we provide the foreign transcript in the caption file? (this raises questions of i11n as well, especially with the Japanese rap and foreign character sets) Check out songs 1 and 4 in this example (set the captions to Spanish for #4 to see multiple languages): http://stream.qtv.apple.com/channels/wgbh/sprites/090500/mb_main_sprite.mov 2) should we provide, instead, a translation of the rap? (even if it is somewhat out of context; plus then we are providing information that non-caption choice users are not getting, so is this right?) Song 1 from the link above does include "chanting in the ---- language" rather than a direct translation. I suppose that it depends on the significance of the content. 3) is Kim's choice of simply noting "Japanese Rap" or "German Rap" sufficient? 4) What kind of support do the various media players have for i11n switching on the fly? (If in fact this is what needs to happen, or will all the foreign text/character sets simply follow through from the initial transcript/caption file? - I am thinking of alternative output as well - Braille for example). Can we (should we) be thinking about the lang attribute here (DFXP can accept it) - and if yes, how, and will, Adaptive Technology be able to take advantage of it? Here's a Flash example: http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/accessiblevideo/ This includes three languages of captions, Japanese, Spanish, English, taking advantage of Unicode support in the player. Right now there isn't any AT support for the lang attribute in DFXP. AWK From dann at digilifemedia.biz Wed Oct 15 05:09:34 2008 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President In-Reply-To: <16632913.2941224072226362.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> Message-ID: <32886905.2961224072574645.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> It's a good thing ATHEN holds its annual meeting after the national elections -- because I believe Ron has a real shot at the White House. Don't believe me ... check out this news feature: http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=46832&altf=Spo&altl=Tufxbsu My apologies to our visually impaired members but this was too good to pass up. -------------------- Daniel Berkowitz Digilife Media, LLC 1 Bryant Avenue Bradford, MA 01835-7424 phone: ?978-914-4601 e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz web: www.digilifemedia.biz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Wed Oct 15 05:57:10 2008 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President In-Reply-To: <32886905.2961224072574645.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> References: <16632913.2941224072226362.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> <32886905.2961224072574645.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> Message-ID: <449EFEFB4AE0421E9E784D1FA0E32D31@LenovoX61> Hey dan, How 'bout describin' it for those visually impaired friends? P _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:10 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President It's a good thing ATHEN holds its annual meeting after the national elections -- because I believe Ron has a real shot at the White House. Don't believe me ... check out this news feature: http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=46832 &altf=Spo&altl=Tufxbsu My apologies to our visually impaired members but this was too good to pass up. -------------------- Daniel Berkowitz Digilife Media, LLC 1 Bryant Avenue Bradford, MA 01835-7424 phone: 978-914-4601 e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz web: www.digilifemedia.biz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed Oct 15 05:59:16 2008 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President In-Reply-To: <449EFEFB4AE0421E9E784D1FA0E32D31@LenovoX61> References: <16632913.2941224072226362.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz><32886905.2961224072574645.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> <449EFEFB4AE0421E9E784D1FA0E32D31@LenovoX61> Message-ID: It's a news story (local to somewhere, I wasn't paying attention) and they showed the guy's billboard. "Ron Stewart for President 2008" the billboard said. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:57 AM To: 'Dann Berkowitz'; 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Hey dan, How 'bout describin' it for those visually impaired friends? P ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:10 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President It's a good thing ATHEN holds its annual meeting after the national elections -- because I believe Ron has a real shot at the White House. Don't believe me ... check out this news feature: http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=46832&altf=Spo&altl=Tufxbsu My apologies to our visually impaired members but this was too good to pass up. -------------------- Daniel Berkowitz Digilife Media, LLC 1 Bryant Avenue Bradford, MA 01835-7424 phone: 978-914-4601 e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz web: www.digilifemedia.biz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dann at digilifemedia.biz Wed Oct 15 05:54:13 2008 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President In-Reply-To: <20620710.3161224075178579.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> Message-ID: <30778111.3181224075253287.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> Good Morning Pratik, It is one of those silly Internet videos where you type in the name of someone and it appears in the video on billboards, newspaper headlines, etc. This one has some of the most seamless integration I have ever seen ... especially at the end where the older woman shows you her hag-tag with the candidates name. ----- "Pratik Patel" wrote: | From: "Pratik Patel" | To: "Dann Berkowitz" , "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" | Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:57:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern | Subject: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President | | | Hey dan, | ? | How 'bout describin' it for those visually impaired friends? | ? | P | ? | | From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz | Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:10 AM | To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network | Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President | | | It's a good thing ATHEN holds its annual meeting after the national elections -- because I believe Ron has a real shot at the White House. Don't believe me ... check out this news feature: http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=46832&altf=Spo&altl=Tufxbsu My apologies to our visually impaired members but this was too good to pass up. | -------------------- | Daniel Berkowitz | Digilife Media, LLC | 1 Bryant Avenue | Bradford, MA 01835-7424 | phone: ?978-914-4601 | e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz | web: www.digilifemedia.biz | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dann at digilifemedia.biz Wed Oct 15 06:43:21 2008 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President In-Reply-To: <411E418D973A4427B54C78C26329CAB2@LenovoX61> References: <20620710.3161224075178579.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> <30778111.3181224075253287.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz><411E418D973A4427B54C78C26329CAB2@LenovoX61> Message-ID: <1980568340-1224078195-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1159034003-@bxe283.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I am holding out for a Cabinet post. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Pratik Patel" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:22:05 To: 'Dann Berkowitz' Subject: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Interesting concept! Hmm, I wonder why Dan B's name didn't appear on there either? Pratik _____ From: Dann Berkowitz [mailto:dann@digilifemedia.biz] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:54 AM To: Pratik Patel Cc: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Good Morning Pratik, It is one of those silly Internet videos where you type in the name of someone and it appears in the video on billboards, newspaper headlines, etc. This one has some of the most seamless integration I have ever seen ... especially at the end where the older woman shows you her hag-tag with the candidates name. ----- "Pratik Patel" wrote: | From: "Pratik Patel" | To: "Dann Berkowitz" , "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" | Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:57:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern | Subject: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President | | | Hey dan, | | How 'bout describin' it for those visually impaired friends? | | P | | | _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz | Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:10 AM | To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network | Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President | | | It's a good thing ATHEN holds its annual meeting after the national elections -- because I believe Ron has a real shot at the White House. Don't believe me ... check out this news feature: http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=46832 &altf=Spo&altl=Tufxbsu My apologies to our visually impaired members but this was too good to pass up. | -------------------- | Daniel Berkowitz | Digilife Media, LLC | 1 Bryant Avenue | Bradford, MA 01835-7424 | phone: 978-914-4601 | e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz | web: www.digilifemedia.biz | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From accessible.text at gmail.com Wed Oct 15 06:55:12 2008 From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President In-Reply-To: <1980568340-1224078195-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1159034003-@bxe283.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <20620710.3161224075178579.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> <30778111.3181224075253287.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> <411E418D973A4427B54C78C26329CAB2@LenovoX61> <1980568340-1224078195-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1159034003-@bxe283.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <9edf8160810150655p4932eedia7cad092728ab32d@mail.gmail.com> Dann, I thought you were out of the Cabinet? On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Dann Berkowitz wrote: > I am holding out for a Cabinet post. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > ------------------------------ > *From*: "Pratik Patel" > *Date*: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:22:05 -0400 > *To*: 'Dann Berkowitz' > *Subject*: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President > Interesting concept! Hmm, I wonder why Dan B's name didn't appear on there > either? > > Pratik > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Dann Berkowitz [mailto:dann@digilifemedia.biz] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:54 AM > *To:* Pratik Patel > *Cc:* Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President > > Good Morning Pratik, > > > > It is one of those silly Internet videos where you type in the name of > someone and it appears in the video on billboards, newspaper headlines, etc. > This one has some of the most seamless integration I have ever seen ... > especially at the end where the older woman shows you her hag-tag with the > candidates name. > > > ----- "Pratik Patel" wrote: > | From: "Pratik Patel" > | To: "Dann Berkowitz" , "Access Technologists in > Higher Education Network" > | Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:57:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > | Subject: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President > | > | > | Hey dan, > | > | How 'bout describin' it for those visually impaired friends? > | > | P > | > > | | > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] *On > Behalf Of *Dann Berkowitz > | *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:10 AM > | *To:* Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > | *Subject:* [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President > | > | > | > > It's a good thing ATHEN holds its annual meeting after the national > elections -- because I believe Ron has a real shot at the White House. > > Don't believe me ... check out this news feature: > > http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=46832&altf=Spo&altl=Tufxbsu > > My apologies to our visually impaired members but this was too good to pass > up. > > > | -------------------- > | Daniel Berkowitz > | Digilife Media, LLC > | 1 Bryant Avenue > | Bradford, MA 01835-7424 > | phone: 978-914-4601 > | e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz > | web: www.digilifemedia.biz > | > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Wed Oct 15 07:37:15 2008 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President In-Reply-To: <9edf8160810150655p4932eedia7cad092728ab32d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <485D76DB0000EBDD@email3.dist.maricopa.edu> What a good laugh today! Thanks for the inspiration. Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From ea at emptech.info Wed Oct 15 13:28:57 2008 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President In-Reply-To: <1980568340-1224078195-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1159034003-@bxe283.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <20620710.3161224075178579.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> <30778111.3181224075253287.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz><411E418D973A4427B54C78C26329CAB2@LenovoX61> <1980568340-1224078195-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1159034003-@bxe283.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <000c01c92f04$acf45c40$06dd14c0$@info> Dan - have you checked that you are using the right technology for a Cabinet post? ? Over here cabinet ministers may want a Blackberry but guess what ... ?"In the years since then, the House has gone on to invest a good deal of time and money supporting Microsoft-based handheld devices," http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7232789.stm Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz Sent: 15 October 2008 14:43 To: Pratik Patel Cc: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President I am holding out for a Cabinet post. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _____ From: "Pratik Patel" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:22:05 -0400 To: 'Dann Berkowitz' Subject: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Interesting concept! Hmm, I wonder why Dan B's name didn't appear on there either? Pratik _____ From: Dann Berkowitz [mailto:dann@digilifemedia.biz] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:54 AM To: Pratik Patel Cc: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Good Morning Pratik, It is one of those silly Internet videos where you type in the name of someone and it appears in the video on billboards, newspaper headlines, etc. This one has some of the most seamless integration I have ever seen ... especially at the end where the older woman shows you her hag-tag with the candidates name. ----- "Pratik Patel" wrote: | From: "Pratik Patel" | To: "Dann Berkowitz" , "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" | Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:57:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern | Subject: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President | | | Hey dan, | | How 'bout describin' it for those visually impaired friends? | | P | | | _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz | Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:10 AM | To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network | Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President | | | It's a good thing ATHEN holds its annual meeting after the national elections -- because I believe Ron has a real shot at the White House. Don't believe me ... check out this news feature: http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=46832 &altf=Spo&altl=Tufxbsu My apologies to our visually impaired members but this was too good to pass up. | -------------------- | Daniel Berkowitz | Digilife Media, LLC | 1 Bryant Avenue | Bradford, MA 01835-7424 | phone: 978-914-4601 | e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz | web: www.digilifemedia.biz | No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1726 - Release Date: 15/10/2008 07:29 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dann at digilifemedia.biz Wed Oct 15 15:28:13 2008 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President In-Reply-To: <000c01c92f04$acf45c40$06dd14c0$@info> References: <20620710.3161224075178579.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> <30778111.3181224075253287.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz><411E418D973A4427B54C78C26329CAB2@LenovoX61> <1980568340-1224078195-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1159034003-@bxe283.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><000c01c92f04$acf45c40$06dd14c0$@info> Message-ID: <59197811-1224109686-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-334150939-@bxe283.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Those wacky Brits - they use Microsoft AND they show us how to bail out our banks. Charming! . Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "E.A. Draffan" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:28:57 To: ; 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'; 'Pratik Patel' Subject: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Dan - have you checked that you are using the right technology for a Cabinet post? ? Over here cabinet ministers may want a Blackberry but guess what ... ?"In the years since then, the House has gone on to invest a good deal of time and money supporting Microsoft-based handheld devices," http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7232789.stm Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz Sent: 15 October 2008 14:43 To: Pratik Patel Cc: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President I am holding out for a Cabinet post. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _____ From: "Pratik Patel" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:22:05 -0400 To: 'Dann Berkowitz' Subject: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Interesting concept! Hmm, I wonder why Dan B's name didn't appear on there either? Pratik _____ From: Dann Berkowitz [mailto:dann@digilifemedia.biz] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:54 AM To: Pratik Patel Cc: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Good Morning Pratik, It is one of those silly Internet videos where you type in the name of someone and it appears in the video on billboards, newspaper headlines, etc. This one has some of the most seamless integration I have ever seen ... especially at the end where the older woman shows you her hag-tag with the candidates name. ----- "Pratik Patel" wrote: | From: "Pratik Patel" | To: "Dann Berkowitz" , "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" | Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:57:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern | Subject: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President | | | Hey dan, | | How 'bout describin' it for those visually impaired friends? | | P | | | _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz | Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:10 AM | To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network | Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President | | | It's a good thing ATHEN holds its annual meeting after the national elections -- because I believe Ron has a real shot at the White House. Don't believe me ... check out this news feature: http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=46832 &altf=Spo&altl=Tufxbsu My apologies to our visually impaired members but this was too good to pass up. | -------------------- | Daniel Berkowitz | Digilife Media, LLC | 1 Bryant Avenue | Bradford, MA 01835-7424 | phone: 978-914-4601 | e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz | web: www.digilifemedia.biz | No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1726 - Release Date: 15/10/2008 07:29 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ea at emptech.info Thu Oct 16 02:17:40 2008 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President In-Reply-To: <59197811-1224109686-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-334150939-@bxe283.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <20620710.3161224075178579.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> <30778111.3181224075253287.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz><411E418D973A4427B54C78C26329CAB2@LenovoX61> <1980568340-1224078195-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1159034003-@bxe283.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><000c01c92f04$acf45c40$06dd14c0$@info> <59197811-1224109686-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-334150939-@bxe283.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <003601c92f70$0e0a2bc0$2a1e8340$@info> Ah well we are listening to all your debates so we must be friends!! :>) On that note I am just so sad not to be coming to the Boulder meeting ? please accept my apologies ? I am afraid work has just piled up and costs started to sore on the flight prices again. But I hope I can come over next year :>)) Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From: Dann Berkowitz [mailto:dann@digilifemedia.biz] Sent: 15 October 2008 23:28 To: ea@emptech.info; Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Those wacky Brits - they use Microsoft AND they show us how to bail out our banks. Charming! . Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _____ From: "E.A. Draffan" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:28:57 +0100 To: ; 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'; 'Pratik Patel' Subject: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Dan - have you checked that you are using the right technology for a Cabinet post? ? Over here cabinet ministers may want a Blackberry but guess what ... ?"In the years since then, the House has gone on to invest a good deal of time and money supporting Microsoft-based handheld devices," http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7232789.stm Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz Sent: 15 October 2008 14:43 To: Pratik Patel Cc: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President I am holding out for a Cabinet post. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _____ From: "Pratik Patel" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:22:05 -0400 To: 'Dann Berkowitz' Subject: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Interesting concept! Hmm, I wonder why Dan B's name didn't appear on there either? Pratik _____ From: Dann Berkowitz [mailto:dann@digilifemedia.biz] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:54 AM To: Pratik Patel Cc: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Good Morning Pratik, It is one of those silly Internet videos where you type in the name of someone and it appears in the video on billboards, newspaper headlines, etc. This one has some of the most seamless integration I have ever seen ... especially at the end where the older woman shows you her hag-tag with the candidates name. ----- "Pratik Patel" wrote: | From: "Pratik Patel" | To: "Dann Berkowitz" , "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" | Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:57:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern | Subject: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President | | | Hey dan, | | How 'bout describin' it for those visually impaired friends? | | P | | | _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz | Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:10 AM | To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network | Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President | | | It's a good thing ATHEN holds its annual meeting after the national elections -- because I believe Ron has a real shot at the White House. Don't believe me ... check out this news feature: http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=46832 &altf=Spo&altl=Tufxbsu My apologies to our visually impaired members but this was too good to pass up. | -------------------- | Daniel Berkowitz | Digilife Media, LLC | 1 Bryant Avenue | Bradford, MA 01835-7424 | phone: 978-914-4601 | e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz | web: www.digilifemedia.biz | No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1726 - Release Date: 15/10/2008 07:29 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1727 - Release Date: 15/10/2008 20:02 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Thu Oct 16 05:30:11 2008 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President In-Reply-To: <003601c92f70$0e0a2bc0$2a1e8340$@info> References: <20620710.3161224075178579.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> <30778111.3181224075253287.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz><411E418D973A4427B54C78C26329CAB2@LenovoX61><1980568340-1224078195-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1159034003-@bxe283.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><000c01c92f04$acf45c40$06dd14c0$@info><59197811-1224109686-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-334150939-@bxe283.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <003601c92f70$0e0a2bc0$2a1e8340$@info> Message-ID: <5D8DD05268FD498EB528F84F3B06DAEC@LenovoX61> Hello all, Looks like I wil not be able to join all of you in Boulder either--perosnal and medical issues getting in the way. I hope everyone has an excellent time. Regards, P _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of E.A. Draffan Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:18 AM To: dann@digilifemedia.biz; 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Ah well we are listening to all your debates so we must be friends!! :>) On that note I am just so sad not to be coming to the Boulder meeting - please accept my apologies - I am afraid work has just piled up and costs started to sore on the flight prices again. But I hope I can come over next year :>)) Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From: Dann Berkowitz [mailto:dann@digilifemedia.biz] Sent: 15 October 2008 23:28 To: ea@emptech.info; Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Those wacky Brits - they use Microsoft AND they show us how to bail out our banks. Charming! . Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _____ From: "E.A. Draffan" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:28:57 +0100 To: ; 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'; 'Pratik Patel' Subject: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Dan - have you checked that you are using the right technology for a Cabinet post? - Over here cabinet ministers may want a Blackberry but guess what ... ""In the years since then, the House has gone on to invest a good deal of time and money supporting Microsoft-based handheld devices," http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7232789.stm Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz Sent: 15 October 2008 14:43 To: Pratik Patel Cc: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President I am holding out for a Cabinet post. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _____ From: "Pratik Patel" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:22:05 -0400 To: 'Dann Berkowitz' Subject: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Interesting concept! Hmm, I wonder why Dan B's name didn't appear on there either? Pratik _____ From: Dann Berkowitz [mailto:dann@digilifemedia.biz] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:54 AM To: Pratik Patel Cc: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President Good Morning Pratik, It is one of those silly Internet videos where you type in the name of someone and it appears in the video on billboards, newspaper headlines, etc. This one has some of the most seamless integration I have ever seen ... especially at the end where the older woman shows you her hag-tag with the candidates name. ----- "Pratik Patel" wrote: | From: "Pratik Patel" | To: "Dann Berkowitz" , "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" | Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:57:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern | Subject: RE: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President | | | Hey dan, | | How 'bout describin' it for those visually impaired friends? | | P | | | _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz | Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:10 AM | To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network | Subject: [Athen] The ATHEN Choice for President | | | It's a good thing ATHEN holds its annual meeting after the national elections -- because I believe Ron has a real shot at the White House. 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URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Thu Oct 16 16:25:40 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] simple question In-Reply-To: <000601c92dae$2c851b50$858f51f0$@com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20081013195824.0227a0a8@pop.gmail.com> <000601c92dae$2c851b50$858f51f0$@com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20081016162514.022618c0@pop.gmail.com> George: Yes. Good old DOS. I didn't even think of it. Used to do that all the time. At 08:37 PM 10/13/2008, you wrote: >Norm, > >1. Open a command prompt in the folder you want to print out. >2. type: dir/b >filename >The /b means bare, without date size etc, just the file name. The >(greater >sign) is a direct to a file, which will get created. > >3. Do this in the other folder and you can compare the two files. > >Hope that works. > > >From the old DOS days, grin! > >Best >George > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > > Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs > > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:00 PM > > To: athen-athenpro.org > > Subject: [Athen] simple question > > > > I have 2 directories in which many of the items are identical. I'd > > like to > > print off a hard copy of the listing of each directory on 2 sheets of > > hard > > copy paper and then match them side by side. > > > > How can I print a hard copy of the list of file names in a directory? > > Norm > > > > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com > > CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information > > phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) > > ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: > > http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From dann at digilifemedia.biz Fri Oct 17 09:09:22 2008 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] [Access Technologists Higher Education Network] Evelyn Wood Would be Proud In-Reply-To: <22643327.3541224259366432.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> Message-ID: <24346611.3561224259762199.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> http://athenpro.blogspot.com/2008/10/evelyn-wood-would-be-proud.html Interesting posting in the?Chronicle of Higher Education Wired-Campus Blog about students watching video lectures in fast forward . Some professors report that when their students are reviewing class materials, the students speed up online recordings of lectures and zip through hour-long presentations in as little as 30 minutes. Sure, their professors sound like chipmunks. But the students say they can absorb the information faster than the professors deliver it. As per usual with this blog, the comments make even better reading than the initial posting with discussion back and forth regarding how sensible it is to belive that students really can improve their comprehension level by viewing or listening to lectures and other course materials at high playback speed. Several folks from the disability services realm (especially from those experienced in working with the Blind and visually impaired) report the high speed at which users of JAWS and other screenreaders rev up their playback. Several supporting articles and papers are linked from the comments section, including and article from the New York Times , a?paper (in PDF format) presented to an institutional Instructional Design Center , and a link to a blog with similar information . As can be expected, there are numerous detractors posting comments and it should be recognized that ' speed listening ' is not going to be equally effective for everyone, but it is at least worth a try. I have some personal experience with speed listening in that my friend and business partner swears by it and has gotten me trying it as well. from the time he discovered DAISY Talking Books he starts the semester by listening to all of his books at high speed once thru. In his words this provides an overview of the material and sets and outline of sorts in his mind. Later on, when he reads for specific assignyemts, he slows the rate down and listens more intently. What he has found personally is that his comprehension of the reading material skyrockets. This is especially true when he is able to view the text on screen as well as listen audibly. . -- Posted By D. Berkowitz to Access Technologists Higher Education Network at 10/17/2008 08:56:00 AM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Wed Oct 22 09:50:14 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: Movie Theaters accessible now for those who are blind or deaf! Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20081022094954.022836a0@pop.gmail.com> >Delivered-To: norm.coombs@gmail.com >Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: >68.230.241.44 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of >norm.coombs@gmail.com) smtp.mail=norm.coombs@gmail.com >X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=H9vSoZghkZ4A:10 a=F31hnOu_7a4A:10 > a=E0QQeZhOAAAA:8 a=cCpWctYnIVBUgidHei8A:9 a=E1RhUhYd9Fo72BzD21G1Picc-VEA:4 > a=Xg25KDyUBlQA:10 a=dGjTBEdgztgA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=9XSpoOj3B7kA:10 >X-CM-Score: 0.00 >X-Sender: norm.coombs@pop.gmail.com (Unverified) >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 >Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:37:16 -0700 >To: "DSSHE-L-LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU" >From: Prof Norm Coombs >Subject: Movie Theaters accessible now for those who are blind or deaf! > >As a person working with students with disabilities, you may want to help >them enrich their free time after study. Now there are dozens and dozens >of theaters that provide in-theater captions and descriptive >narration. How? Sit in on the EASI Webinar Tomorrow at 2 PM Eastern for >an explanation of this new public accessibility. MoPix is the system. It >involves a reflector that displays the captions and head phones to hear >descriptions. >We are providing a special public login for the Webinar This time you will >not need to register in advance. Just before the hour: >Thur. Oct. 23 >2 PM Eastern >1 PM Central >Noon Mountain >11 AM Pacific >go to http://easi.cc/mopix.htm >works best with a PC and Explorer. >Use your name to login but please leave the password field EMPTY. If this >is your first time, download the small client before joining the Webinar >Norm > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com >CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information >phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) >****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: >http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From norm.coombs at gmail.com Wed Oct 22 12:03:43 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Check Out These Three EASI opportunities in November: Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20081022115957.0238a620@pop.gmail.com> Check Out These Three EASI opportunities in November: First, EASI has 2 public Webinars: Nov. 18, Making Accessible forms in PDF Nov. 20, Captioning Educational Material on a Large Scale: Second there is a fee-based 4-part Webinar series, Taming Microsoft Word and Excel Everyone registering for this 4-part, month-long series will receive a bonus of the Barrier-free Handbook on accessible e-learning. (see the handbook contents at the bottom of this message). You can read about the Webinars and register online at: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm Third, The month-long online course for November is Barrier-free E-learning. Its focus is to help institutions demonstrate to faculty ways to create accessible online content using software they already know and understand. You can read more and register online at: http://easi.cc/workshop.htm Those who subscribe to the EASI Webinar Annual Membership have free access to all the fee-based Webinar series and qualify for a 20% discount on all courses: http://easi.cc/sub.htm **** Below is the table of contents for the bonus Barrier-free Handbook: BARRIER-FREE E-LEARNING HANDBOOK Norman Coombs, Ph.D. (c 2007) (All rights reserved) What is Distance Learning? 3 Changing Technology 3 Another word about technology 3 The Virtual Classroom 4 Learning management systems 4 Web conferencing systems 5 Electronic Barriers and Ramps for Special Needs Students 5 Who are special needs students? 5 Information Ramp To The Super Highway 6 Electronic Curb cuts 6 How can designing to meet the needs of students with disabilities help in teaching these other special groups? 8 TEN COMMANDMENTS OF DISTANCE LEARNING OR COMPUTER-MEDIATED LEARNING 9 Tips for Creating Accessible Course Content 14 How much do you really have to know? 14 Section 508 Web accessibility standards 14 Creating accessible content using Word 16 PowerPoint 17 Advantages and Problems of Multimedia 19 Digitized Multimedia 19 Podcasts and vodcasts 20 Some Problems For Students With Disabilities 20 Some Solutions 20 Simple Audio 21 SMIL, You're On The Internet! 21 Multimedia Curb cuts 21 Special Problems of Accessing Technical Disciplines and Special Solutions 22 National Science Foundation 22 Math Problems 22 Braille Math 24 Tactile Drawings 25 Providing Alternatives to Required Print Course Content 25 Electronic Braille and audio-recorded texts 25 Sources of electronic Braille and audio-recorded texts 26 Summary 27 Networking 27 What Do I Want You To Remember? 27 Don't Do It Alone! 27 Focus On Teaching And Learning 28 Appendix A: EASI (Equal Access to Software and Information) Resources 28 http://easi.cc 28 Online Courses and the Certificate in Accessible Information Technology 28 Webinars 28 Podcasts 29 Appendix B: Accessible Content Authoring Training Modules 29 Using Microsoft Office Word to Create Accessible Course Content 30 Using PowerPoint to Create Accessible Content 31 Checking Course Content for Its Accessibility 31 Help for More Advanced Content Creators 32 Creating Synchronized Captions for Streaming Multimedia 33 From norm.coombs at gmail.com Sat Oct 25 14:54:03 2008 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Recognizing Academic Achievements of Students With Disabilities Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20081025144958.02381eb0@pop.gmail.com> Recognizing Academic Achievements of Students With Disabilities Even in the educational community, faculty and administrators frequently expect that students with disabilities will not succeed, or, at best, they may just scrape by. Recognizing the real quality achievements of students with disabilities is a fabulous way to counter this prejudice. Delta Alpha Pi Honor Society is a national honor society for students with disabilities who earn membership through actually demonstrating that they can compete with other students earning superior grades. You ought to consider establishing a chapter at your campus. This honor society is spreading to more campuses each year. This is yet another way to support your students with disabilities. We all need role models to help give us goals and dreams for ourselves. EASI has a Web page describing Delta Alpha Pi and including audio interviews including one with its founder, Dr. Edith Miller from East Strousburg University, Pa. Read about Delta Alpha Pi at: http://easi.cc/dap.htm or look for a link on the EASI homepage http://easi.cc Norman Coombs CEO EASI From hascherdss at gmail.com Mon Oct 27 12:26:28 2008 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] ISIS accessibility Message-ID: <6e0d34c90810271226x3f5e0186uc2b647c0c67c8072@mail.gmail.com> Hello fellow ATHENites! Just curious as to which schools are using the PeopleSoft product ISIS for student information across the campus? What, if any, tweaks have you been able to implement to make it a little more accessible for students using screenreaders? Any suggestions would be greatly helpful! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd From hkramer at colorado.edu Mon Oct 27 13:58:10 2008 From: hkramer at colorado.edu (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] AHG proctoring volunteers, new ATHEN members, ATHEN meeting at AHG Message-ID: Hello All: A couple of questions, all of them important: 1 - should I post information on the conference site about the ATHEN meeting? Will this be at 6:30 on Nov. 13 (Thurs)? Do you have a specific blurb you want me to post? 2 - I could use volunteer proctors. For those of you attending and willing to do this, please look through the schedule and let me know if there are particular sessions you're willing to do. FYI - the proctor gives out the evaluation forms and goes for help for the speaker if needed. The latest schedule is posted on the conference site: http://www.colorado.edu/atconference/ . 3 - I thought doing some type of recognition/memorial for John Slatin & Dick Banks would be appropriate. Norm had sent me some video of Dick. What do others think - a flyer in the packet? Does anyone want to take the lead on this? 4 - FYI - As of a few weeks ago, there were 14 new ATHEN sign-ups via the conference. Thanks, Howard -- Howard Kramer AT Lab Coordinator AHG Conference Coordinator 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu Tue Oct 28 12:53:27 2008 From: saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu (Saroj Primlani) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] ISIS accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63989D09774043EEAB31639F736D20B5@sarojnewlaptop> At NC State we are also using PeopleSoft for the SIS and it is a mess. Our developers are really knowledgeable and accessibility savvy but we have not been able to find a solution to create a UI within the product to make it accessible to screen reader and keyboard only users. We are currently exploring different options including a "accessible" UI outside the system but that presents multiple challenges both in development time and maintenance. The developers are planning to get the discussion started with PeopleSoft. Would be good to create a coalition like we have done with BlackBoard to make them change their development environment. Saroj _________________________________ Saroj Primlani Coordinator of University IT Accessibility Office of Information Technology 919 513 4087 http://ncsu.edu/it/access -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:00 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 33, Issue 24 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. ISIS accessibility (Heidi Scher) 2. AHG proctoring volunteers, new ATHEN members, ATHEN meeting at AHG (Howard Kramer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:26:28 -0500 From: "Heidi Scher" Subject: [Athen] ISIS accessibility To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: <6e0d34c90810271226x3f5e0186uc2b647c0c67c8072@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello fellow ATHENites! Just curious as to which schools are using the PeopleSoft product ISIS for student information across the campus? What, if any, tweaks have you been able to implement to make it a little more accessible for students using screenreaders? Any suggestions would be greatly helpful! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:58:10 -0600 From: "Howard Kramer" Subject: [Athen] AHG proctoring volunteers, new ATHEN members, ATHEN meeting at AHG To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello All: A couple of questions, all of them important: 1 - should I post information on the conference site about the ATHEN meeting? Will this be at 6:30 on Nov. 13 (Thurs)? Do you have a specific blurb you want me to post? 2 - I could use volunteer proctors. For those of you attending and willing to do this, please look through the schedule and let me know if there are particular sessions you're willing to do. FYI - the proctor gives out the evaluation forms and goes for help for the speaker if needed. The latest schedule is posted on the conference site: http://www.colorado.edu/atconference/ . 3 - I thought doing some type of recognition/memorial for John Slatin & Dick Banks would be appropriate. Norm had sent me some video of Dick. What do others think - a flyer in the packet? Does anyone want to take the lead on this? 4 - FYI - As of a few weeks ago, there were 14 new ATHEN sign-ups via the conference. Thanks, Howard -- Howard Kramer AT Lab Coordinator AHG Conference Coordinator 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 33, Issue 24 ************************************* From saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu Tue Oct 28 12:55:54 2008 From: saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu (Saroj Primlani) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] AHG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57546D3521AB42C780EA040B2AEA61AC@sarojnewlaptop> Yes to post time for ATHEN meeting I will help proctor, will lookup the schedule and let you know Great idea doing something for John and Dick Saroj _________________________________ Saroj Primlani Coordinator of University IT Accessibility Office of Information Technology 919 513 4087 http://ncsu.edu/it/access -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:00 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 33, Issue 24 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. ISIS accessibility (Heidi Scher) 2. AHG proctoring volunteers, new ATHEN members, ATHEN meeting at AHG (Howard Kramer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:26:28 -0500 From: "Heidi Scher" Subject: [Athen] ISIS accessibility To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: <6e0d34c90810271226x3f5e0186uc2b647c0c67c8072@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello fellow ATHENites! Just curious as to which schools are using the PeopleSoft product ISIS for student information across the campus? What, if any, tweaks have you been able to implement to make it a little more accessible for students using screenreaders? Any suggestions would be greatly helpful! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:58:10 -0600 From: "Howard Kramer" Subject: [Athen] AHG proctoring volunteers, new ATHEN members, ATHEN meeting at AHG To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello All: A couple of questions, all of them important: 1 - should I post information on the conference site about the ATHEN meeting? Will this be at 6:30 on Nov. 13 (Thurs)? Do you have a specific blurb you want me to post? 2 - I could use volunteer proctors. For those of you attending and willing to do this, please look through the schedule and let me know if there are particular sessions you're willing to do. FYI - the proctor gives out the evaluation forms and goes for help for the speaker if needed. The latest schedule is posted on the conference site: http://www.colorado.edu/atconference/ . 3 - I thought doing some type of recognition/memorial for John Slatin & Dick Banks would be appropriate. Norm had sent me some video of Dick. What do others think - a flyer in the packet? Does anyone want to take the lead on this? 4 - FYI - As of a few weeks ago, there were 14 new ATHEN sign-ups via the conference. Thanks, Howard -- Howard Kramer AT Lab Coordinator AHG Conference Coordinator 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 33, Issue 24 ************************************* From dann at digilifemedia.biz Tue Oct 28 12:31:31 2008 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Google comes to an agreement with Publishers and Authors In-Reply-To: <1225223736997.c1ad2917-5485-4987-ab53-635f2093394c@google.com> Message-ID: <4803618.5261225222291903.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> [http://chronicle.com/free/2008/10/6010n.htm] >From the On-Line Edition of the Chronicle of Higher Education (10-28-2008): Google, Publishers, and Authors Settle Huge Lawsuit Over Book-Scanning Project Google, the Authors Guild, and the Association of American Publishers announced today that they had settled their longstanding legal battle over Google?s mass scanning of books. Under the terms of the deal, Google will pay $125-million to establish a Book Rights Registry, to compensate authors and publishers whose copyrighted books have already been scanned, and to cover legal costs. The settlement, which still needs court approval to go into effect, would resolve a class-action lawsuit brought in 2005 by the Authors Guild as well as a separate lawsuit filed on behalf of the publishers? association. Publishers and authors argued that Google?s scanning of books for its Google Book Search program was a flagrant violation of copyright law's provisions governing fair use. ?We had a major disagreement with Google about copyright law,? Paul Aiken, the guild?s executive director, said during a joint teleconference that Google and the publishers held with reporters today. ?We still do, and probably always will.? But he said that the parties had been ?able to set those issues aside? for what ?may be the biggest book deal in U.S. publishing history.? The deal goes far beyond money. Richard Sarnoff, chairman of the publishers? association, described it to reporters as ?breathtaking in scope, groundbreaking for publishers and authors, and trailblazing for intellectual property in general.? Unlocking Millions of Texts If approved by a judge, the accord would allow users of Google Book Search in the United States to see the full texts of books they can read only in snippets now. The deal would also have the potential to put millions more out-of-print or hard-to-find titles within the reach of readers and researchers. Institutions would be able to buy subscriptions so that their students and faculty members could have full access to complete texts. All public libraries in the United States would be given free portals for their patrons. (The settlement does not apply to the use of Google Book Search outside the United States.) Users without library or institutional access would pay a fee to preview the full text of a book. Google and the copyright holders?the publishers and authors?would share the proceeds from subscriptions and individual use. Authors and publishers could opt out of the program. The deal will ?unlock millions of these texts for users,? said David Drummond, chief legal officer of Google, during the teleconference. Google, he said, considered the deal a great leap forward as well. ?Search simply isn?t complete without this content,? he said. Early reaction from academe has been enthusiastic. Stanford University, the University of California, and the University of Michigan issued a joint statement of support for the agreement, praising its ?outstanding public benefits.? The libraries of the three universities have been among a number working with the plaintiffs and Google ?to shape this agreement for the public good,? said Michael A. Keller, Stanford?s university librarian and director of the Stanford University Press. Paul N. Courant, university librarian at the University of Michigan, said in the statement that ?the opportunity to search and preview millions of books online? was especially valuable. ?This is a service that libraries, because of copyright restrictions, could not offer on their own and goes well beyond what would have been possible, even if Google had prevailed in defending the lawsuit,? Mr. Courant said. Google?s library partners also stand to benefit because Google will provide them with digitized copies of scanned materials, which will help in their long-term preservation efforts. -- Posted By D. Berkowitz to Access Technologists Higher Education Network at 10/28/2008 03:49:00 PM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer at colorado.edu Wed Oct 29 10:42:45 2008 From: hkramer at colorado.edu (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] AHG proctoring volunteers, new ATHEN members, ATHEN meeting at AHG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Terry. I will really try to do that article today. Really. -Howard On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Howard Kramer wrote: > Hello All: > > A couple of questions, all of them important: > > 1 - should I post information on the conference site about the ATHEN > meeting? Will this be at 6:30 on Nov. 13 (Thurs)? Do you have a specific > blurb you want me to post? > > 2 - I could use volunteer proctors. For those of you attending and willing > to do this, please look through the schedule and let me know if there are > particular sessions you're willing to do. FYI - the proctor gives out the > evaluation forms and goes for help for the speaker if needed. The latest > schedule is posted on the conference site: > http://www.colorado.edu/atconference/ . > > 3 - I thought doing some type of recognition/memorial for John Slatin & > Dick Banks would be appropriate. Norm had sent me some video of Dick. What > do others think - a flyer in the packet? Does anyone want to take the lead > on this? > > 4 - FYI - As of a few weeks ago, there were 14 new ATHEN sign-ups via the > conference. > > Thanks, > Howard > > -- > Howard Kramer > AT Lab Coordinator > AHG Conference Coordinator > 303-492-8672 > fax: 492-5601 > -- Howard Kramer AT Lab Coordinator AHG Conference Coordinator 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dann at digilifemedia.biz Wed Oct 29 13:54:50 2008 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] AHG proctoring volunteers, new ATHEN members, ATHEN meeting at AHG In-Reply-To: <15139095.6081225313195879.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> Message-ID: <23414066.6101225313690901.JavaMail.root@zimbra.digilifemedia.biz> Hi Howard and all ATHEN Members FROM THE SECRETARY: 1) Yes - please do post the meeting information on the website. It is scheduled for 6:30 PM on Thursday right after the vendor area closes. Location is to be determined by you or the conference staff. REMINDER -- Please review the bylaw changes on the ATHEN website for discussion and voting at the annual meeting. Any items for the agende need to be e-mailed to me (and soon). 2) I encourage every ATHEN member to proctor at least one session. Don't forget to mention ATHEN in your introduction. 3) I agree with such a recognition. I assume a member or members who knew John and Dick well will step up and lead this effort. 4) Good to know there are new members joing through the vehicle of the conference. Dann --- ATHEN Secretary -------------------- Daniel Berkowitz Digilife Media, LLC 1 Bryant Avenue Bradford, MA 01835-7424 phone: ?978-914-4601 e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz web: www.digilifemedia.biz ----- "Howard Kramer" wrote: | From: "Howard Kramer" | To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" | Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:42:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern | Subject: Re: [Athen] AHG proctoring volunteers, new ATHEN members, ATHEN meeting at AHG | Hello All: | A couple of questions, all of them important: | 1 - should I post information on the conference site about the ATHEN meeting? Will this be at 6:30 on Nov. 13 (Thurs)? Do you have a specific blurb you want me to post? | | 2 - I could use volunteer proctors. For those of you attending and willing to do this, please look through the schedule and let me know if there are particular sessions you're willing to do. FYI - the proctor gives out the evaluation forms and goes for help for the speaker if needed. The latest schedule is posted on the conference site: http://www.colorado.edu/atconference/ . | | 3 - I thought doing some type of recognition/memorial for John Slatin & Dick Banks would be appropriate. Norm had sent me some video of Dick. What do others think - a flyer in the packet? Does anyone want to take the lead on this? | | 4 - FYI - As of a few weeks ago, there were 14 new ATHEN sign-ups via the conference. | Thanks, | Howard | -- | Howard Kramer | AT Lab Coordinator | AHG Conference Coordinator | 303-492-8672 | fax: 492-5601 | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C032C70F1@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Pardon the off-topic post, but are others experiencing difficulties with the list today? I'm receiving out of office bounces from the list, but no actual postings - is anyone else in the same boat? If not, please excuse and I'll try to troubleshoot the difficulty from this end. Many thanks, Teresa Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Alternate Format Supervisor Disability Resource Center Arizona State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ndogbo at gmail.com Thu Oct 30 16:54:05 2008 From: ndogbo at gmail.com (Nicaise D) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] problems with list? In-Reply-To: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C032C70F1@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C032C70F1@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <6193475B13E14CF9B9AA89877758F093@Dogbo> me too... Nicaise _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:38 PM To: Dann Berkowitz; Access Technologists in HigherEducation Network Subject: [Athen] problems with list? Pardon the off-topic post, but are others experiencing difficulties with the list today? I'm receiving out of office bounces from the list, but no actual postings - is anyone else in the same boat? If not, please excuse and I'll try to troubleshoot the difficulty from this end. Many thanks, Teresa Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Alternate Format Supervisor Disability Resource Center Arizona State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Thu Oct 30 16:57:07 2008 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] problems with list? In-Reply-To: <6193475B13E14CF9B9AA89877758F093@Dogbo> Message-ID: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C032C70F5@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Good to know I'm not alone, and now I'm getting messages, at least in response to my own post! Thank you, Nicaise. Teresa Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Alternate Format Supervisor Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Nicaise D Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:54 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] problems with list? me too... Nicaise ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:38 PM To: Dann Berkowitz; Access Technologists in HigherEducation Network Subject: [Athen] problems with list? Pardon the off-topic post, but are others experiencing difficulties with the list today? I'm receiving out of office bounces from the list, but no actual postings - is anyone else in the same boat? If not, please excuse and I'll try to troubleshoot the difficulty from this end. Many thanks, Teresa Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Alternate Format Supervisor Disability Resource Center Arizona State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmhaven at stanford.edu Thu Oct 30 20:12:47 2008 From: rmhaven at stanford.edu (rmhaven@stanford.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] problems with list? In-Reply-To: <6193475B13E14CF9B9AA89877758F093@Dogbo> References: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C032C70F1@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <6193475B13E14CF9B9AA89877758F093@Dogbo> Message-ID: <20081030201247.t70u9qaycco40004@webmail.stanford.edu> Me too, too -- for what it's worth. - Shelley Haven Quoting Nicaise D : > me too... > > Nicaise > > > _____ > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Teresa Haven > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:38 PM > To: Dann Berkowitz; Access Technologists in HigherEducation Network > Subject: [Athen] problems with list? > > > > Pardon the off-topic post, but are others experiencing difficulties with the > list today? I'm receiving out of office bounces from the list, but no > actual postings - is anyone else in the same boat? If not, please excuse > and I'll try to troubleshoot the difficulty from this end. > > Many thanks, > > Teresa > > > > Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. > > Alternate Format Supervisor > > Disability Resource Center > > Arizona State University > > > > From rbeach at kckcc.edu Fri Oct 31 05:57:08 2008 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] problems with list? In-Reply-To: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C032C70F5@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <6193475B13E14CF9B9AA89877758F093@Dogbo> <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C032C70F5@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <490ABA54020000CF000207A2@mymail.kckcc.edu> I did receive two out-of-office auto replies, but the only actual messages I received were from Howard and Dan regarding AHG. The two auto replies did not have any indication as to which message they were replying to. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> Teresa Haven 10/30/2008 6:57 PM >>> Good to know I'm not alone, and now I'm getting messages, at least in response to my own post! Thank you, Nicaise. Teresa Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Alternate Format Supervisor Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Nicaise D Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:54 PM To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] problems with list? me too... Nicaise ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:38 PM To: Dann Berkowitz; Access Technologists in HigherEducation Network Subject: [Athen] problems with list? Pardon the off-topic post, but are others experiencing difficulties with the list today? I'm receiving out of office bounces from the list, but no actual postings - is anyone else in the same boat? If not, please excuse and I'll try to troubleshoot the difficulty from this end. Many thanks, Teresa Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Alternate Format Supervisor Disability Resource Center Arizona State University