From bergerei at gse.harvard.edu Tue Dec 1 08:01:00 2009 From: bergerei at gse.harvard.edu (eileen berger) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] the greenwood dictionary of Education Message-ID: AHTENIANS! The greenwood dictionary of education is going into a second edition without disability language/ vocabulary or any reference to access technology- Please forward to me in 250 words or less your definition or list of definitions of educational terms which are important for linguists and other users of the language to know and which you think must be included. John Collins, director of the HGSE lbrary, is editor and has asked me to accumulate disability vocabulary. If your word or words are chosen they will be published and your name will be included as the reference/author of the definition! Please submit as soon as possible!! Thank you- sincerely.. Eileen Berger Any questions feel free to call me @ 617 495 9608! Eileen Connell Berger Assistant Director Office of Student Affairs, Access and Disability Services Administrator Harvard University Graduate School of Education Longfellow Hall 046 13 Appian Way, Cambridge, Ma. 02138 phone: 617 495 5838 fax: 617 496 8024 bergerei@gse.harvard.edu ___________________________________________________________________ This message is intended for the designated recipient(s). It may contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, you may not review copy or distribute this message. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you. From tech at av-mart.com Tue Dec 1 10:38:39 2009 From: tech at av-mart.com (Technical Support) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] WYNN and Windows 7? Message-ID: <39FC69A1FF904526979EA339AA9AC1DA@Mike> The company I represent is an authorized dealer for WYNN. The manufacturer told me that WYNN will install on Windows 7, but it will not run. They hope to have an update to WYNN that will make it Windows 7 compatible sometime this month (December 2009). Everything I read about Windows 7 says if something works with Vista it should work with Windows 7. That is about all I have been able to find out. Mike Burks icdri at icdri.org http://www.icdri.org Donations are gratefully accepted. More details are available at http://www.icdri.org/donations.htm -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces at athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces at athenpro.org ] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:19 PM To: Alternate Media; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] WYNN and Windows 7? Hello all, Has anyone heard through the grapevine (or alternative) of WYNN and compatibility with Windows 7? I know the 5.10 version of WYNN is compatible with Windows Vista, but have not been able to find information about Windows 7. Just curious... sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hadi at illinois.edu Tue Dec 1 11:21:21 2009 From: hadi at illinois.edu (Hadi Rangin) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Elluminate Accessibility Interest Group References: <20091125132337.AMY40068@riddler.int.colorado.edu><006401ca6e0d$b66ac040$234040c0$@org> <000801ca6e1a$65b77f50$31267df0$@info> Message-ID: Hello everyone, We will have our first official Elluminate Accessibility Interest Group meeting tomorrow Wednesday at 1:00 PM Central time. Valerie Schreiner, the product Manager at Elluminate will discuss their plan for improving the accessibility of their product. We would like to invite anyone who is interested in improving the accessibility of Elluminate and is willing to dedicate a few hours in a month for this project to join us in this effort. Meeting info: * Date: Wednesday December 2, 2009 * Time: 2:00 PM EST; 1:00 PM CST; 12:00 PM MST; 11:00 AM PST * URL: http://tinyurl.com/valoffice * Phone: 1-913-312-1029 or 1-877-880-7307 (toll free) * Participant Code 764427 * Note1: We will be using Elluminate for the meeting. Please make sure that you install it prior to the meeting. * Note2: Screen reader users or anyone who prefers not to use Elluminate for the meeting, please use the above telephone bridge instead. * Note3: In order to work collaboratively with the Elluminate Accessibility Interest Group, you need to be a member of this group. To join the group, please go to: http://collaborate.athenpro.org/group/elluminate/ and follow the insttruction how to join the group. Once you become a member, you will have access to all relevant information. You don't have to be a member for tomorrow's meeting but future meetings will be limited to members only. If you have any question, please drop me a note at hadi@illinois.edu (not to the list). Thanks and looking forward to working with you. Hadi From mpthornton at ualr.edu Tue Dec 1 11:44:18 2009 From: mpthornton at ualr.edu (Melanie Thornton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] System Access by Serotek Message-ID: <4B157212.6020402@ualr.edu> Hi all. I just received a call from a student whose case manager was proposing that they purchase System Access by Serotek in lieu of JAWS. This student will be in an online Master's program using Blackboard (as well as other tools required for the online course). The student was asking for our advice on this. While I have read some good reviews of System Access, I would be concerned that it might not be as effective with Blackboard as JAWS. But I would be interested in input from those on the list who have worked with System Access. Has anyone tried it with Blackboard or other course management systems? Many thanks! Melanie -- Melanie Thornton Director, Project PACE Associate Director, Disability Resource Center 2801 S. University Ave., DSC #103 Little Rock, Arkansas 72204 501.650.2239 (cell) 501.569.8240 (fax) 501.569.3217 (tty) Websites: http://ualr.edu/pace http://ualr.edu/disability -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Tue Dec 1 13:21:02 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] System Access by Serotek In-Reply-To: <4B157212.6020402@ualr.edu> References: <4B157212.6020402@ualr.edu> Message-ID: <01e801ca72cc$2facd070$8f067150$@org> I have work with several institutions that are using System Access as their primary campus screen reader and for a system like Blackboard it is functionally equivalent. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Melanie Thornton Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:44 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] System Access by Serotek Hi all. I just received a call from a student whose case manager was proposing that they purchase System Access by Serotek in lieu of JAWS. This student will be in an online Master's program using Blackboard (as well as other tools required for the online course). The student was asking for our advice on this. While I have read some good reviews of System Access, I would be concerned that it might not be as effective with Blackboard as JAWS. But I would be interested in input from those on the list who have worked with System Access. Has anyone tried it with Blackboard or other course management systems? Many thanks! Melanie -- Melanie Thornton Director, Project PACE Associate Director, Disability Resource Center 2801 S. University Ave., DSC #103 Little Rock, Arkansas 72204 501.650.2239 (cell) 501.569.8240 (fax) 501.569.3217 (tty) Websites: http://ualr.edu/pace http://ualr.edu/disability -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpuzz at msu.edu Tue Dec 1 13:36:14 2009 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] System Access by Serotek References: <4B157212.6020402@ualr.edu> Message-ID: Over all, there are some areas in which Jaws is still more functional than System access; but having said that, I believe that System Access has actually surpassed jaws in terms of web browsing with Internet Explorer. If your student will primarily be working on web based systems, and using Microsoft Word to write papers, etc, then System Access should be more than sufficient. If the student has had extensive experience with Jaws in the past, then I would advise purchasing the Eloquence option for System Access, at a cost of an additional $25.00. Eloquence is the synthesizer used by Jaws, and often, transitioning to a new speech synthesizer can be as difficult, if not more so than transitioning to an entirely new screen reader. Al Puzzuoli Michigan State University Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu > Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 517-884-1915 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mpthornton at ualr.edu Tue Dec 1 14:31:46 2009 From: mpthornton at ualr.edu (Melanie Thornton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] System Access by Serotek In-Reply-To: References: <4B157212.6020402@ualr.edu> Message-ID: <4B159952.9010302@ualr.edu> Thank you both, Al and Ron. Good to know. Very helpful! Melanie Al Puzzuoli wrote: > Over all, there are some areas in which Jaws is still more functional > than System access; but having said that, I believe that System Access > has actually surpassed jaws in terms of web browsing with Internet > Explorer. > If your student will primarily be working on web based systems, and > using Microsoft Word to write papers, etc, then System Access should > be more than sufficient. If the student has had extensive experience > with Jaws in the past, then I would advise purchasing the Eloquence > option for System Access, at a cost of an additional > $25.00. Eloquence is the synthesizer used by Jaws, and often, > transitioning to a new speech synthesizer can be as difficult, if not > more so than transitioning to an entirely new screen reader. > > > > Al Puzzuoli > > Michigan State University > > Information Technologist > > _http://www.rcpd.msu.edu_ > <_http://www.rcpd.msu.edu/_> > > Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities > > 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 > > 517-884-1915 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -- Melanie Thornton Director, Project PACE Associate Director, Disability Resource Center 2801 S. University Ave., DSC #103 Little Rock, Arkansas 72204 501.650.2239 (cell) 501.569.8240 (fax) 501.569.3217 (tty) Websites: http://ualr.edu/pace http://ualr.edu/disability We want your comments! AIM: MelanieatUALR ************************************ This message contains information which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. Please be aware that filing this email in publicly accessible records, or any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. ******************************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petri.1 at osu.edu Wed Dec 2 08:58:16 2009 From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Ken Petri) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] System Access by Serotek In-Reply-To: <4B159952.9010302@ualr.edu> References: <4B157212.6020402@ualr.edu> <4B159952.9010302@ualr.edu> Message-ID: Hi Melanie, There are a couple of caveats with SA. First, an internet connection is necessary to initiate a session. In SAToGo, you must have internet for the entire session. If it goes out, so does SAToGo. For the pay-for version of System Access, this is not the case--once launched it won't time out, even if internet goes south--though you still need internet to launch the program. Another concern is support for PowerPoint. At this point, you can read PowerPoint presentations but you have no ability at all to edit or create them. I have been told by sources close to Serotek that full PowerPoint operability is in the works and should be functional "soon." But right now, no go. Probably the best thing to do is have the student "kick the tires." SAToGo is free and works on any Windows machine. The student should give it a try in Blackboard and elsewhere. The keyboard mappings are essentially the same as in JAWS, so there is a shallow learning curve. Best, ken ------------------------------------------------------- Ken Petri Program Director OSU Web Accessibility Center 102D Pomerene Hall 1760 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43210 Phone: (614) 292-1760 Fax: (614) 292-4190 mailto:petri.1@osu.edu ------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Melanie Thornton wrote: > Thank you both, Al and Ron. Good to know. Very helpful! > > Melanie > > Al Puzzuoli wrote: > > Over all, there are some areas in which Jaws is still more functional than > System access; but having said that, I believe that System Access has > actually surpassed jaws in terms of web browsing with Internet Explorer. > If your student will primarily be working on web based systems, and using > Microsoft Word to write papers, etc, then System Access should be more than > sufficient. If the student has had extensive experience with Jaws in the > past, then I would advise purchasing the Eloquence option for System Access, > at a cost of an additional $25.00. Eloquence is the synthesizer used by > Jaws, and often, transitioning to a new speech synthesizer can be as > difficult, if not more so than transitioning to an entirely new screen > reader. > > > > Al Puzzuoli > > Michigan State University > > Information Technologist > *http://www.rcpd.msu.edu* <* > http://www.rcpd.msu.edu/* > > > Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities > > 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 > > 517-884-1915 > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing listAthen@athenpro.orghttp://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > -- > > Melanie Thornton > Director, Project PACE > Associate Director, Disability Resource Center > 2801 S. University Ave., DSC #103 > Little Rock, Arkansas 72204 > 501.650.2239 (cell) > 501.569.8240 (fax) > 501.569.3217 (tty) > > Websites: > http://ualr.edu/pace > http://ualr.edu/disability > > We want your comments! > > > AIM: MelanieatUALR > > ************************************ > This message contains information which may be confidential or privileged. > The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named > above. Please be aware that filing this email in publicly accessible > records, or any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of > this message is prohibited. > ******************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tech at av-mart.com Thu Dec 3 10:24:22 2009 From: tech at av-mart.com (Technical Support) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] WYNN and Windows 7? In-Reply-To: <39FC69A1FF904526979EA339AA9AC1DA@Mike> References: <39FC69A1FF904526979EA339AA9AC1DA@Mike> Message-ID: <00BF1BCA0E554DE48713A3B36AF0697B@Mike> This just in: http://www.freedomscientific.com/lsg/support/FIP-Windows7-Support.asp WYNN Support for Windows 7 WYNN Wizard and WYNN Reader versions 5.10.107 and later support the WindowsR 7 operating system. However, the Freedom Import Printer (FIP), which is only available in WYNN Wizard, must be updated as described in the following procedure. Note: If you are using WYNN Reader 5.10.107 or later, do not perform this update. Your application is fully compatible with Windows 7. After WYNN Wizard has been installed on your computer, do the following to download, save, and install the FIP update: 1. Select the download link that appears at the end of this procedure. 2. When the dialog box opens, choose Save and select a location where you can easily find the downloaded executable file. 3. Run the executable and follow the installation instructions. * Freedom Import Printer 9.0.1046 (64- and 32-bit) - 13 MB If you have any questions about this process, please contact our Technical Support department or call 727-803-8600. If you do not have an Internet connection and need to install from a CD, please contact Customer Service or call 800-444-4443 ext.1032 or 727-803-8000 ext.1032 to request that a CD be mailed to you. _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Technical Support Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:39 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] WYNN and Windows 7? The company I represent is an authorized dealer for WYNN. The manufacturer told me that WYNN will install on Windows 7, but it will not run. They hope to have an update to WYNN that will make it Windows 7 compatible sometime this month (December 2009). Everything I read about Windows 7 says if something works with Vista it should work with Windows 7. That is about all I have been able to find out. Mike Burks icdri at icdri.org http://www.icdri.org Donations are gratefully accepted. More details are available at http://www.icdri.org/donations.htm -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces at athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces at athenpro.org ] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:19 PM To: Alternate Media; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] WYNN and Windows 7? Hello all, Has anyone heard through the grapevine (or alternative) of WYNN and compatibility with Windows 7? I know the 5.10 version of WYNN is compatible with Windows Vista, but have not been able to find information about Windows 7. Just curious... sean No virus found in this incoming message. 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I've been a faithful e-mail discussion list user since I started using the internet in the mid-90s. However, over the last few years, especially with the advent of Twitter, I'm finding some of the richer accessibility info is being communicated through social media. One of my concerns is that there may be a gap that is growing in terms of accessibility info sharing based on which channel folks use. Of course, who has the time to monitor and contribute to everything This is something I've been reflecting upon for a bit, and thought I'd take a temperature check. I'm asking a similar question on Twitter and LinkedIn as well. If folks are interested, I can compile the answers I receive and share a high-level summary in a few weeks. Jennison Jennison Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison From ron at ahead.org Sat Dec 5 07:24:36 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] where are you getting your accessibility info? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <035101ca75bf$0e684c00$2b38e400$@org> That would be great please do! I am one who finds that email and lists better serve my style of info acquisition. At this point I have not really found social media to provide the same functionality but am always wanting to have access to the richest resources. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jennison Mark Asuncion Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: Equal Access to Software & Information; athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] where are you getting your accessibility info? Hello, With social media becoming ever more popular, I'm personally curious where folks are turning to most often when seeking accessibility-related information: e-mail discussion lists, social media, or a combination of the two? I've been a faithful e-mail discussion list user since I started using the internet in the mid-90s. However, over the last few years, especially with the advent of Twitter, I'm finding some of the richer accessibility info is being communicated through social media. One of my concerns is that there may be a gap that is growing in terms of accessibility info sharing based on which channel folks use. Of course, who has the time to monitor and contribute to everything This is something I've been reflecting upon for a bit, and thought I'd take a temperature check. I'm asking a similar question on Twitter and LinkedIn as well. If folks are interested, I can compile the answers I receive and share a high-level summary in a few weeks. Jennison Jennison Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Crabb.15 at osu.edu Sat Dec 5 07:29:23 2009 From: Crabb.15 at osu.edu (Crabb, Nolan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] where are you getting your accessibility info? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3AA1A4DB-2D18-4E4B-9733-F5C582E749E0@osu.edu> I tend to use both Twitter and e-nail. Nolan Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:07 AM, "Jennison Mark Asuncion" wrote: > Hello, > > With social media becoming ever more popular, I'm personally curious > where folks are turning to most often when seeking accessibility- > related information: e-mail discussion lists, social media, or a > combination of the two? > > I've been a faithful e-mail discussion list user since I started > using the internet in the mid-90s. However, over the last few years, > especially with the advent of Twitter, I'm finding some of the > richer accessibility info is being communicated through social > media. One of my concerns is that there may be a > gap that is growing in terms of accessibility info sharing based on > which channel folks use. Of course, who has the time to monitor and > contribute to everything > > This is something I've been reflecting upon for a bit, and thought > I'd take a temperature check. > > I'm asking a similar question on Twitter and LinkedIn as well. If > folks are interested, I can compile the answers I receive and share > a high-level summary in a few weeks. > > Jennison > > Jennison Asuncion > Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org > LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From shelley at techpotential.net Sat Dec 5 11:33:17 2009 From: shelley at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] where are you getting your accessibility info? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's a great question. I rely mostly on e-mail lists and the like. As new means of sharing information are developed, we become inundated with not only the amount of information shared but the number of different "channels" to attend in order to get that info -- e-mail, websites, private boards, social media, paper (magazines, journals, newsletters, product literature, books), as well as the usual meetings, phone calls, etc., which also generate an information trail. I find I am more productive if I limit the channels to those which best fit my working style in terms of requesting information, contributing, keeping abreast of new info, and searching for something later ("I know I read that somewhere..."), and at this point, the e- mail lists serve my needs and working style better than the social media. But of course, that could change. - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant Shelley@TechPotential.net www.TechPotential.net On Dec 5, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Jennison Mark Asuncion wrote: > Hello, > > With social media becoming ever more popular, I'm personally curious > where folks are turning to most often when seeking accessibility- > related information: e-mail discussion lists, social media, or a > combination of the two? > > I've been a faithful e-mail discussion list user since I started > using the internet in the mid-90s. However, over the last few years, > especially with the advent of Twitter, I'm finding some of the > richer accessibility info is being communicated through social > media. One of my concerns is that there may be a > gap that is growing in terms of accessibility info sharing based on > which channel folks use. Of course, who has the time to monitor and > contribute to everything > > This is something I've been reflecting upon for a bit, and thought > I'd take a temperature check. > > I'm asking a similar question on Twitter and LinkedIn as well. If > folks are interested, I can compile the answers I receive and share > a high-level summary in a few weeks. > > Jennison > > Jennison Asuncion > Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org > LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From ea at emptech.info Sat Dec 5 12:11:40 2009 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] where are you getting your accessibility info? In-Reply-To: <035101ca75bf$0e684c00$2b38e400$@org> References: <035101ca75bf$0e684c00$2b38e400$@org> Message-ID: <001501ca75e7$28e7b750$7ab725f0$@info> I tend to surf for news for EmpTech on all possible outlets as well as follow your notes on Linkedin Jennison and Twitter. In fact we have now linked tweats to EmpTech as a way of getting regular news updates onto the web page. We are thinking of doing the same with the news - using RSS feeds etc. I have to admit as there is so much more out there it is much harder work. It is also really crucial to check the validity of some of the comments - having to triangulate news and blogs can take time, but I am always worried about passing on news that is not accurate. I love the fact we are sharing so much, but I agree with Ron - having the news pushed as email is the best - having to go and search can open Pandora's box! Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.org http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: 05 December 2009 15:25 To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'; 'Equal Access to Software & Information' Subject: Re: [Athen] where are you getting your accessibility info? That would be great please do! I am one who finds that email and lists better serve my style of info acquisition. At this point I have not really found social media to provide the same functionality but am always wanting to have access to the richest resources. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jennison Mark Asuncion Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: Equal Access to Software & Information; athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] where are you getting your accessibility info? Hello, With social media becoming ever more popular, I'm personally curious where folks are turning to most often when seeking accessibility-related information: e-mail discussion lists, social media, or a combination of the two? I've been a faithful e-mail discussion list user since I started using the internet in the mid-90s. However, over the last few years, especially with the advent of Twitter, I'm finding some of the richer accessibility info is being communicated through social media. One of my concerns is that there may be a gap that is growing in terms of accessibility info sharing based on which channel folks use. Of course, who has the time to monitor and contribute to everything This is something I've been reflecting upon for a bit, and thought I'd take a temperature check. I'm asking a similar question on Twitter and LinkedIn as well. If folks are interested, I can compile the answers I receive and share a high-level summary in a few weeks. Jennison Jennison Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From kmancuso at gmail.com Sat Dec 5 13:09:28 2009 From: kmancuso at gmail.com (Katherine Mancuso) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 47, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I rely mostly on Twitter because I don't know how to learn where other resources are. Nobody takes a lot of time to "teach" me anything about professional development so I mostly find it on Twitter because I'm already there. It took me about six months of paying attention on Twitter to learn about this list (I didn't say it was an efficient means of communication); I also subscribe to AHEAD's lists, DSSHE, and Web-AIM, but I don't know if there are others. In addition, I use LinkedIn groups, but I find them less helpful. -Katherine -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Katherine Mancuso: crusader of community art, social technology, & disability Research: Center for Assistive Technology & Environmental Access (http://www.catea.org) Georgia Tech, Digital Media (http://dm.gatech.edu) Community: The Vesuvius Group: metaverse community builders (http://www.thevesuviusgroup.com) Gimp Girl Community Liaison/Research Fellow (http://www.gimpgirl.com) Alternate ROOTS: arts*community*activism (http://www.alternateroots.org) Students Working Against Negative Stereotypes of Autism, Georgia Tech. (gtautism@gmail.com) Contact in the web, the metaverse, the world: http://twitter.com/musingvirtual http://muse.dreamwidth.org http://www.linkedin.com/in/kathymancuso SL: Muse Carmona ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From info at karlencommunications.com Mon Dec 7 03:56:53 2009 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] New device for rendering textbooks digitally Message-ID: <006b01ca7734$5e6c96e0$1b45c4a0$@com> >From the NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/business/06novel.html?_r=1 &partner=rss&emc=rss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Mon Dec 7 06:13:44 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] where are you getting your accessibility info? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am fond of email, and fond of bookmarking sites that are helpful. But what I NEED is a really good database of information that is readily updatable and available for me. I often see things that I think, "I might need that someday" and keep the email, which then gets buried after another few days of emails never to be seen again, or I bookmark a site, only to "lose"/forget it in a pile of hundreds of bookmarks I keep. So much good information comes through on a daily basis, but I don't know how/have the time to organize it in a way that would truly help me the most. If someone could solve that problem, I'd be in heaven! Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From mpthornton at ualr.edu Mon Dec 7 06:33:28 2009 From: mpthornton at ualr.edu (Melanie Thornton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] where are you getting your accessibility info? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B1D1238.9000100@ualr.edu> I have started using a combination of google docs and delicious bookmarking for those items like you mentioned so that eventually I can move away from keeping anything in email. If I cut and paste the relevant content into a google document, then I can save and tag it in my delicious account. (I can choose to make it private or public in both google docs and delicious.) I may have 3 or 4 emails saved as one google document with a name that fits. I find the ability to tag items much more helpful than using traditional folders in browser bookmarking. I hope this helps, Susan. I'm sold on delicious.com! Melanie Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: > I am fond of email, and fond of bookmarking sites that are helpful. But > what I NEED is a really good database of information that is readily > updatable and available for me. I often see things that I think, "I > might need that someday" and keep the email, which then gets buried > after another few days of emails never to be seen again, or I bookmark a > site, only to "lose"/forget it in a pile of hundreds of bookmarks I > keep. > > So much good information comes through on a daily basis, but I don't > know how/have the time to organize it in a way that would truly help me > the most. If someone could solve that problem, I'd be in heaven! > > Susan Kelmer > Adaptive Technology Specialist/ > Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms > St. Louis Community College - Meramec > 314-984-7951 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -- Melanie Thornton Director, Project PACE Associate Director, Disability Resource Center 2801 S. University Ave., DSC #103 Little Rock, Arkansas 72204 501.650.2239 (cell) 501.569.8240 (fax) 501.569.3217 (tty) Websites: http://ualr.edu/pace http://ualr.edu/disability We want your comments! AIM: MelanieatUALR ************************************ This message contains information which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. 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Is anyone aware of a utility that would support rule-based correction of PDF tagged structure? Thanks, Terry Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 From info at karlencommunications.com Mon Dec 7 08:57:56 2009 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Scripting editing of tagged PDF files In-Reply-To: <14C6C8313F1842459FAAD0B3FEB9E42C285697E0@ads-mbx-02.exchange.washington.edu> References: <14C6C8313F1842459FAAD0B3FEB9E42C285697E0@ads-mbx-02.exchange.washington.edu> Message-ID: <001001ca775e$6ca6c3a0$45f44ae0$@com> Unfortunately not. I think even if you use something like NetCentric's CommonLook it is going to be a manual process of typing in the correct renderings. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Terrill Thompson Sent: December-07-09 11:23 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Scripting editing of tagged PDF files Hi all, I have a PDF that is tagged and has good structure. However the heading tags and image alternate text have been manually entered and many of them have problems related to capitalization, plus a few spelling errors. Here's an example heading: unIversal desIgn guIdelInes This is a very large document, and these problems will take days to correct manually. Is anyone aware of a utility that would support rule-based correction of PDF tagged structure? Thanks, Terry Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From burke at mso.umt.edu Mon Dec 7 11:08:09 2009 From: burke at mso.umt.edu (Burke, Dan (DSS)) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] LMS accessibility Message-ID: The director of online learning asked me if there are any third-party assessments of various learning management systems, such as Blackboard, etc. Any info in this direction would be helpful -- they're looking ahead to acquiring a new or upgraded LMS at Montana. Dan Daniel J. Burke Assistant Director/Coordinator Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406.243.2243 voice/text 406.243.4424 direct line 406.243.5330 fax From shelley at techpotential.net Mon Dec 7 11:18:20 2009 From: shelley at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] where are you getting your accessibility info? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0F78F1FD-3CB7-4F39-86CC-B2B76557962B@techpotential.net> Hi, Susan! I use a digital notebook for precisely what you describe. For the Mac, I use Circus Ponies' NoteBook;, on the PC side, Microsoft OneNote. My notebooks are set up with numerous dividers (just like a 3-ring binder) with a couple dozen categories and subcategories. When I find something useful, whether it's on a webpage, in an e-mail, or some other document (in essence, anything digital), I highlight the text and images, then "clip" it to the appropriate page in my NoteBook (this can be done directly from the application I'm working in -- no need to open NoteBook). The clipped information includes a reference to the original material as well as a clickable link back to the source. Because clipping is so quick and I don't have to break my train of thought, I find I'm more likely to do it, and I know that that problem- solving tip or quotable quote will be there (and already categorized) when I need it. In addition, notebooks created in either NoteBook or OneNote can be shared publicly. Hope this helps, Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant Shelley@TechPotential.net www.TechPotential.net On Dec 7, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: > I am fond of email, and fond of bookmarking sites that are helpful. > But > what I NEED is a really good database of information that is readily > updatable and available for me. I often see things that I think, "I > might need that someday" and keep the email, which then gets buried > after another few days of emails never to be seen again, or I > bookmark a > site, only to "lose"/forget it in a pile of hundreds of bookmarks I > keep. > > So much good information comes through on a daily basis, but I don't > know how/have the time to organize it in a way that would truly help > me > the most. If someone could solve that problem, I'd be in heaven! > > Susan Kelmer > Adaptive Technology Specialist/ > Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms > St. Louis Community College - Meramec > 314-984-7951 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From Vasquez at sbcc.edu Mon Dec 7 11:38:43 2009 From: Vasquez at sbcc.edu (Laurie Vasquez) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] LMS accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B1CE943.1869.00F8.0@sbcc.edu> Edutools http://www.edutools.info/static.jsp?pj=4&page=HOME http://www.edutools.info/feature_list.jsp?pj=4 http://www.edutools.info/glossary.jsp?pj=4 >>> "Burke, Dan (DSS)" 12/7/2009 11:08 AM >>> The director of online learning asked me if there are any third-party assessments of various learning management systems, such as Blackboard, etc. Any info in this direction would be helpful -- they're looking ahead to acquiring a new or upgraded LMS at Montana. Dan Daniel J. Burke Assistant Director/Coordinator Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406.243.2243 voice/text 406.243.4424 direct line 406.243.5330 fax _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From hadi at illinois.edu Mon Dec 7 12:05:46 2009 From: hadi at illinois.edu (Hadi Rangin) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] where are you getting your accessibility info? References: <0F78F1FD-3CB7-4F39-86CC-B2B76557962B@techpotential.net> Message-ID: Sounds like a very good way for organizing useful notes and references. Can you tell us how accessible that application is? Here's how I organize my stuff: 1. For online references, I bookmark them in the browser I am using at the time. I use XMarks to synchronize all the booksmarks I have across all the computers and browsers I am using. This will give me always access to the up-to-date bookmarks. Clearly, I have created 100s of folders and sub-folders over several years but they are pretty organized and structured. 2. For off-line materials or programs, I upload them in my own secure server and can access them whenever it is needed. I usually mount the folder where I have all my off-line files and programs onto the system I am using and can access them either as local folder or via HTTP access. I use WebDrive program to mount remote network drive or SAMBA when I am within my Intranet. Thanks, Hadi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley Haven" To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Athen] where are you getting your accessibility info? > Hi, Susan! > > I use a digital notebook for precisely what you describe. For the Mac, I > use Circus Ponies' NoteBook;, on the PC side, Microsoft OneNote. My > notebooks are set up with numerous dividers (just like a 3-ring binder) > with a couple dozen categories and subcategories. When I find something > useful, whether it's on a webpage, in an e-mail, or some other document > (in essence, anything digital), I highlight the text and images, then > "clip" it to the appropriate page in my NoteBook (this can be done > directly from the application I'm working in -- no need to open > NoteBook). The clipped information includes a reference to the original > material as well as a clickable link back to the source. > > Because clipping is so quick and I don't have to break my train of > thought, I find I'm more likely to do it, and I know that that problem- > solving tip or quotable quote will be there (and already categorized) > when I need it. In addition, notebooks created in either NoteBook or > OneNote can be shared publicly. > > Hope this helps, > Shelley > > _____________________________ > Shelley Haven ATP, RET > Assistive Technology Consultant > Shelley@TechPotential.net > www.TechPotential.net > > > On Dec 7, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: > >> I am fond of email, and fond of bookmarking sites that are helpful. But >> what I NEED is a really good database of information that is readily >> updatable and available for me. I often see things that I think, "I >> might need that someday" and keep the email, which then gets buried >> after another few days of emails never to be seen again, or I bookmark a >> site, only to "lose"/forget it in a pile of hundreds of bookmarks I >> keep. >> >> So much good information comes through on a daily basis, but I don't >> know how/have the time to organize it in a way that would truly help me >> the most. If someone could solve that problem, I'd be in heaven! >> >> Susan Kelmer >> Adaptive Technology Specialist/ >> Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms >> St. Louis Community College - Meramec >> 314-984-7951 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 12:14:13 2009 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reminder!! Webinar on Windows 7 and accessibility Thursday Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20091207121021.0236dfc0@pop.gmail.com> Thursday Dec. 10 at 2 PM Eastern Standard Webinar discussing Windows 7 and its accessibility Read more and register for this free Webinar at: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From tft at u.washington.edu Mon Dec 7 12:27:08 2009 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] where are you getting your accessibility info? In-Reply-To: References: <0F78F1FD-3CB7-4F39-86CC-B2B76557962B@techpotential.net> Message-ID: <14C6C8313F1842459FAAD0B3FEB9E42C28569D4D@ads-mbx-02.exchange.washington.edu> Back to your original question Jennison, I subscribe to a dozen or so online discussion lists and have historically depended on three or four (including this one) for accessibility information, although on a daily basis I have come to rely on Twitter for more timely information, and these discussion lists have become a secondary resource. If I have a specific question though, where I turn to ask that question depends partly on the nature of the question and where I think I'll find the requisite expertise, but in general I tend to feel more confident in my ability to get questions answered on discussion lists rather than through Twitter, Facebook, or LinkedIn, mostly because of limitations to the size of my social media network. Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Hadi Rangin Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 12:06 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] where are you getting your accessibility info? Sounds like a very good way for organizing useful notes and references. Can you tell us how accessible that application is? Here's how I organize my stuff: 1. For online references, I bookmark them in the browser I am using at the time. I use XMarks to synchronize all the booksmarks I have across all the computers and browsers I am using. This will give me always access to the up-to-date bookmarks. Clearly, I have created 100s of folders and sub-folders over several years but they are pretty organized and structured. 2. For off-line materials or programs, I upload them in my own secure server and can access them whenever it is needed. I usually mount the folder where I have all my off-line files and programs onto the system I am using and can access them either as local folder or via HTTP access. I use WebDrive program to mount remote network drive or SAMBA when I am within my Intranet. Thanks, Hadi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley Haven" To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Athen] where are you getting your accessibility info? > Hi, Susan! > > I use a digital notebook for precisely what you describe. For the Mac, I > use Circus Ponies' NoteBook;, on the PC side, Microsoft OneNote. My > notebooks are set up with numerous dividers (just like a 3-ring binder) > with a couple dozen categories and subcategories. When I find something > useful, whether it's on a webpage, in an e-mail, or some other document > (in essence, anything digital), I highlight the text and images, then > "clip" it to the appropriate page in my NoteBook (this can be done > directly from the application I'm working in -- no need to open > NoteBook). The clipped information includes a reference to the original > material as well as a clickable link back to the source. > > Because clipping is so quick and I don't have to break my train of > thought, I find I'm more likely to do it, and I know that that problem- > solving tip or quotable quote will be there (and already categorized) > when I need it. In addition, notebooks created in either NoteBook or > OneNote can be shared publicly. > > Hope this helps, > Shelley > > _____________________________ > Shelley Haven ATP, RET > Assistive Technology Consultant > Shelley@TechPotential.net > www.TechPotential.net > > > On Dec 7, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: > >> I am fond of email, and fond of bookmarking sites that are helpful. But >> what I NEED is a really good database of information that is readily >> updatable and available for me. I often see things that I think, "I >> might need that someday" and keep the email, which then gets buried >> after another few days of emails never to be seen again, or I bookmark a >> site, only to "lose"/forget it in a pile of hundreds of bookmarks I >> keep. >> >> So much good information comes through on a daily basis, but I don't >> know how/have the time to organize it in a way that would truly help me >> the most. If someone could solve that problem, I'd be in heaven! >> >> Susan Kelmer >> Adaptive Technology Specialist/ >> Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms >> St. Louis Community College - Meramec >> 314-984-7951 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From hadi at illinois.edu Mon Dec 7 12:48:19 2009 From: hadi at illinois.edu (Hadi Rangin) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] LMS accessibility References: Message-ID: <0B9A3F36D38E4876A350200546090C64@ad.uiuc.edu> Dan, Ken Petri and I and many colleagues across multiple institutions have been working with two major LMS vendor namely D2L and Blackboard. Our main goal from working with them is to improve the accessibility/usability of their products. Of course, we test and evaluate constantly but we don't publish our findings because first we are under NDA and secondly, we primeraly work on future products and not existing products. We have realized working on existing products is not very effective considering the limited resources we have. By time the vendors address the accessibility issues with existing products in the market, institutions upgrade to new releases/versions and all those work would be waisted. So we decided to work on upcoming releases instead and try to incorporate accessibility part of their future design. Last time we wrote a whitepaper on Blackboard was in 2005 and it is not relevant anymore because BB has changed drastically since then. The most recent evaluation has been done by our colleagues at CSU. They have systematically evaluated 5 LMS. If I am not mistaking it is from early 2008. You can find the report at: http://www.calstate.edu/Accessibility/webaccessibility/evaluation/index.shtml Note that both BB and D2L have invested a lot into accessibility of their product since 2008 and the result of the evaluation is not relevant anymore. Here's my suggestion: 1. Bring together a few accessibility experts, 2. define and develop your accessibility criteria and matrix, and 3. perform the accessibility testing locally on the version your institution is considering to upgrade. This is the only way that you can get a fair and up-to-date accessibility report. I can help you with #2 and I am positive other members on this list like Ken Petri and Terry Thompson will be glad to help you too. Hadi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Burke, Dan (DSS)" To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:08 PM Subject: [Athen] LMS accessibility > The director of online learning asked me if there are any third-party > assessments of various learning management systems, such as Blackboard, > etc. Any info in this direction would be helpful -- they're looking > ahead to acquiring a new or upgraded LMS at Montana. > > Dan > > > Daniel J. Burke > Assistant Director/Coordinator > Disability Services for Students > Emma B. Lommasson 154 > The University of Montana > Missoula, MT 59812 > > www.umt.edu/dss/ > > 406.243.2243 voice/text > 406.243.4424 direct line > 406.243.5330 fax > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Tue Dec 8 08:07:18 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Kindle Accessibility, Renewed! Message-ID: According to this article, Amazon is working to add audible menus to the Kindle. This is good news! http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/2009-12-07-kindle-hearing-impared_ N.htm Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Tue Dec 8 08:44:39 2009 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Kindle Accessibility, Renewed! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is going to be an interesting show to follow. Hmmmm, will it do what is needed? I guess my big question is why is it taking so long to implement these features. The technology is there, the programming shouldn't be that difficult. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:07 AM To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Kindle Accessibility, Renewed! According to this article, Amazon is working to add audible menus to the Kindle. This is good news! http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/2009-12-07-kindle-hearing-impared_N.htm Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Tue Dec 8 13:17:56 2009 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon app for iPhone Message-ID: <4B1EC284.3040509@stanford.edu> Hello all, There is a new Dragon app for the iPhone. Check out Gizmodo for some basic information (http://tinyurl.com/y97v567) and a review of the functionality of the app at TUAW (http://tinyurl.com/ycdn4gt). I have done some basic testing and it seems decent. It couldn't get my name correct the first time (Shawn vs. Sean) but it's still pretty good. It is certainly not Dragon 10 and there is not an option to train Dragon to your voice, but it does work. From the TUAW article, the speech engine processing is being handled by Nuance's servers so you need a data connection. For me, it was 1-2 seconds to process 3-4 sentences when using a Wi-Fi connection. You can also use the on-screen keyboard to make changes to the recognized text. Once the text has been entered on-screen, you can send the content to e-mail, a text message, or send it to the clipboard. The interface is easy and seems fairly responsive on a first-generation phone. I will be interested to see how this functions on a new 3GS. Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: skeegan.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 332 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Crabb.15 at osu.edu Tue Dec 8 13:23:41 2009 From: Crabb.15 at osu.edu (Crabb, Nolan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon app for iPhone In-Reply-To: <4B1EC284.3040509@stanford.edu> References: <4B1EC284.3040509@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <200911DB087DA748846372E8038E0AE203188ACD@Amazon.admin.ohio-state.edu> This could be exciting news indeed, especially if it works without much interference to Voiceover. Thanks for sending it along. Nolan Nolan Crabb Director of Assistive Technology The Ohio State University 2054 Drake Center, 1849 Cannon Dr., Columbus, OH 43210 Ph. (614) 735-8688 E-mail: crabb.15@osu.edu From shelley at techpotential.net Tue Dec 8 13:33:03 2009 From: shelley at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon app for iPhone In-Reply-To: <4B1EC284.3040509@stanford.edu> References: <4B1EC284.3040509@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <852023CB-EAE6-4338-9694-605261BD7508@techpotential.net> Faaaaantastic! Especially since the application is free for a limited time. One thing to note, though, is that not only does the app upload your voice message to Nuance's servers, but a careful reading of the user license agreement shows that it also uploads all the contact info from your iPhone to their servers. Some people may be uncomfortable with that. - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant Shelley@TechPotential.net www.TechPotential.net On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Sean J Keegan wrote: > Hello all, > > There is a new Dragon app for the iPhone. Check out Gizmodo for > some basic information (http://tinyurl.com/y97v567) and a review of > the functionality of the app at TUAW (http://tinyurl.com/ycdn4gt). > > I have done some basic testing and it seems decent. It couldn't get > my name correct the first time (Shawn vs. Sean) but it's still > pretty good. It is certainly not Dragon 10 and there is not an > option to train Dragon to your voice, but it does work. > > From the TUAW article, the speech engine processing is being handled > by Nuance's servers so you need a data connection. For me, it was > 1-2 seconds to process 3-4 sentences when using a Wi-Fi connection. > You can also use the on-screen keyboard to make changes to the > recognized text. > > Once the text has been entered on-screen, you can send the content > to e-mail, a text message, or send it to the clipboard. The > interface is easy and seems fairly responsive on a first-generation > phone. I will be interested to see how this functions on a new 3GS. > > Take care, > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From alpuzz at msu.edu Tue Dec 8 13:37:55 2009 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon app for iPhone References: <4B1EC284.3040509@stanford.edu> <200911DB087DA748846372E8038E0AE203188ACD@Amazon.admin.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: I just tried this. Haven't spent a lot of time on it yet. It may very well be usable with Voiceover with some practice, but the first problem is that there seem to be issues with unlabeled buttons. Unfortunate that a company marketing a product to the disability community wouldn't automatically adhere to accessibility standards when developing the app. Al Puzzuoli Michigan State University Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 517-884-1915 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Crabb, Nolan Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:24 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon app for iPhone This could be exciting news indeed, especially if it works without much interference to Voiceover. Thanks for sending it along. Nolan Nolan Crabb Director of Assistive Technology The Ohio State University 2054 Drake Center, 1849 Cannon Dr., Columbus, OH 43210 Ph. (614) 735-8688 E-mail: crabb.15@osu.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Crabb.15 at osu.edu Tue Dec 8 13:59:48 2009 From: Crabb.15 at osu.edu (Crabb, Nolan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon Dictate for the iPhone and Voiceover Message-ID: <200911DB087DA748846372E8038E0AE203188AD5@Amazon.admin.ohio-state.edu> After only five minutes of testing, I can say that I managed to create a message with 100 percent accuracy using Dragon and voiceover. The buttons could be better labeled, but this does work in conjunction with voiceover. What a great find. I still need to play with it more to determine how I can tell with absolute certainty when I'm recording and when I'm not, but my first little test, in which I used the extremely unoriginal "testing 1 2" succeeded. I suppose that "testing 1 2" is really not much worse than "Watson, come here; I need you" or whatever Alexander Graham Bell first uttered into his primitive telephone. The short answer is, this does appear to work reasonably well. But that's only after five minutes. Nolan Nolan Crabb Director of Assistive Technology The Ohio State University 2054 Drake Center, 1849 Cannon Dr., Columbus, OH 43210 Ph. (614) 735-8688 E-mail: crabb.15@osu.edu From shelley at techpotential.net Tue Dec 8 14:00:06 2009 From: shelley at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon app for iPhone In-Reply-To: <4B1EC284.3040509@stanford.edu> References: <4B1EC284.3040509@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <0E8917E0-327F-4927-8084-B726D88FE552@techpotential.net> Faaaaantastic! Especially since the application is free for a limited time. One thing to note, though, is that not only does the app upload your voice message to Nuance's servers, but a careful reading of the user license agreement shows that it also uploads all the contact info from your iPhone to their servers. Some people may be uncomfortable with that. - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant Shelley@TechPotential.net www.TechPotential.net On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Sean J Keegan wrote: > Hello all, > > There is a new Dragon app for the iPhone. Check out Gizmodo for > some basic information (http://tinyurl.com/y97v567) and a review of > the functionality of the app at TUAW (http://tinyurl.com/ycdn4gt). > > I have done some basic testing and it seems decent. It couldn't get > my name correct the first time (Shawn vs. Sean) but it's still > pretty good. It is certainly not Dragon 10 and there is not an > option to train Dragon to your voice, but it does work. > > From the TUAW article, the speech engine processing is being handled > by Nuance's servers so you need a data connection. For me, it was > 1-2 seconds to process 3-4 sentences when using a Wi-Fi connection. > You can also use the on-screen keyboard to make changes to the > recognized text. > > Once the text has been entered on-screen, you can send the content > to e-mail, a text message, or send it to the clipboard. The > interface is easy and seems fairly responsive on a first-generation > phone. I will be interested to see how this functions on a new 3GS. > > Take care, > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From tft at u.washington.edu Tue Dec 8 17:00:18 2009 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon app for iPhone In-Reply-To: <200911DB087DA748846372E8038E0AE203188ACD@Amazon.admin.ohio-state.edu> References: <4B1EC284.3040509@stanford.edu> <200911DB087DA748846372E8038E0AE203188ACD@Amazon.admin.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: <14C6C8313F1842459FAAD0B3FEB9E42C2865130D@ads-mbx-02.exchange.washington.edu> This has great potential as an alternative to typing with the iPhone on-screen keyboard, which is technically accessible but quite cumbersome for VoiceOver users. However, Pratik Patel and I have exchanged several communications today (until now entirely on Twitter and Facebook) about some problems I'm having using Dragon and VoiceOver together. For Pratik, the Dragon buttons are verbalized by VoiceOver. It sounds like the main button that's used to start dictation does not have an appropriate label (Pratik says it sounds something like "/var/mobile/applicat"), but the other buttons are labeled "messaging_keyboard", "messaging_send", and "record_off". For me though, whenever I launch Dragon with VoiceOver running, VoiceOver shuts up. It speaks in every other app, and resumes speaking after I leave Dragon, but doesn't speak at all within the Dragon app. I've tried rebooting the phone, and tweaking every reasonable setting (and a few unreasonable ones) within Settings menu system. As others experiment this, please report back on what your experiences are. I'm curious whether this is just something weird with my phone, or if it's a common problem. Thanks, Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Crabb, Nolan Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:24 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon app for iPhone This could be exciting news indeed, especially if it works without much interference to Voiceover. Thanks for sending it along. Nolan Nolan Crabb Director of Assistive Technology The Ohio State University 2054 Drake Center, 1849 Cannon Dr., Columbus, OH 43210 Ph. (614) 735-8688 E-mail: crabb.15@osu.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Crabb.15 at osu.edu Tue Dec 8 19:07:20 2009 From: Crabb.15 at osu.edu (Crabb, Nolan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon app for iPhone In-Reply-To: <14C6C8313F1842459FAAD0B3FEB9E42C2865130D@ads-mbx-02.exchange.washington.edu> References: <4B1EC284.3040509@stanford.edu> <200911DB087DA748846372E8038E0AE203188ACD@Amazon.admin.ohio-state.edu> <14C6C8313F1842459FAAD0B3FEB9E42C2865130D@ads-mbx-02.exchange.washington.edu> Message-ID: <4F0D233D-AD37-4AB2-9CD8-BB4E2F171984@osu.edu> Aside from the unlabeled or mislabeled buttons you mentioned, I have no problemm with VoiceOver. Nolan Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2009, at 8:05 PM, "Terrill Thompson" wrote: > This has great potential as an alternative to typing with the iPhone > on-screen keyboard, which is technically accessible but quite > cumbersome for VoiceOver users. However, Pratik Patel and I have > exchanged several communications today (until now entirely on > Twitter and Facebook) about some problems I'm having using Dragon > and VoiceOver together. > > For Pratik, the Dragon buttons are verbalized by VoiceOver. It > sounds like the main button that's used to start dictation does not > have an appropriate label (Pratik says it sounds something like "/ > var/mobile/applicat"), but the other buttons are labeled > "messaging_keyboard", "messaging_send", and "record_off". > > For me though, whenever I launch Dragon with VoiceOver running, > VoiceOver shuts up. It speaks in every other app, and resumes > speaking after I leave Dragon, but doesn't speak at all within the > Dragon app. > > I've tried rebooting the phone, and tweaking every reasonable > setting (and a few unreasonable ones) within Settings menu system. > > As others experiment this, please report back on what your > experiences are. I'm curious whether this is just something weird > with my phone, or if it's a common problem. > > Thanks, > > Terrill Thompson > Technology Accessibility Specialist > DO-IT, Accessible Technology > UW Technology Services > University of Washington > tft@u.washington.edu > 206/221-4168 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On Behalf Of Crabb, Nolan > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:24 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon app for iPhone > > This could be exciting news indeed, especially if it works without > much > interference to Voiceover. Thanks for sending it along. > > Nolan > > > > > > Nolan Crabb > Director of Assistive Technology > The Ohio State University > 2054 Drake Center, 1849 Cannon Dr., Columbus, OH 43210 > > Ph. (614) 735-8688 > E-mail: crabb.15@osu.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca Tue Dec 8 19:43:03 2009 From: asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca (Jennison Mark Asuncion) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] new LinkedIn Group focused on mobile/handheld technology accessibility Message-ID: <19850843f1ba3e7696238cf1eb4a7072.squirrel@webmail.concordia.ca> Hello, Today's iPhone thread gives me a perfect opportunity to let folks know that I recently setup a group on the professional networking platform LinkedIn called the Mobile and Handheld Technology Accessibility Forum. There are an increasing number of mobile and other handheld devices that either have accessibility features built into them, or that support software (e.g., software that reads what is on the screen) that enable equal access to these technologies for users with a variety of visible and non-visible disabilities. In addition, companies such as Google and RIM are making frameworks and guidelines available to allow developers to improve the accessibility of applications intended to run on these devices. The objective of the forum is to provide a place to discuss and share experience relevant to this evolving field from all perspectives: developers, researchers, end-users, and so on. ?You can subscribe to the group at http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2484780 - If you are not already a LinkedIn member, you will need to join. Jennison From B.G.Whitehouse at lboro.ac.uk Wed Dec 9 08:50:09 2009 From: B.G.Whitehouse at lboro.ac.uk (B.G.Whitehouse@lboro.ac.uk) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Kindle Accessibility, Renewed! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They announced that around February March this year, I think. Guy On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:07:18 -0600 "Kelmer, Susan M." wrote: > According to this article, Amazon is working to add >audible menus to the > Kindle. This is good news! > > > > http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/2009-12-07-kindle-hearing-impared_ > N.htm > > > > Susan Kelmer > > Adaptive Technology Specialist/ > > Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms > > St. Louis Community College - Meramec > > 314-984-7951 > > > From burke at mso.umt.edu Wed Dec 9 09:39:56 2009 From: burke at mso.umt.edu (Burke, Dan (DSS)) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Kindle Accessibility, Renewed! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's a start, but with authors/publishers still having the option to turn off tts for their publications, it's not much of a move in the direction of full access. Random House, if I'm not mistaken, still has its entire catalogue turned off? Dan Daniel J. Burke Assistant Director/Coordinator Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406.243.2243 voice/text 406.243.4424 direct line 406.243.5330 fax -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of B.G.Whitehouse@lboro.ac.uk Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Kindle Accessibility, Renewed! They announced that around February March this year, I think. Guy On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:07:18 -0600 "Kelmer, Susan M." wrote: > According to this article, Amazon is working to add >audible menus to the > Kindle. This is good news! > > > > http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/2009-12-07-kindle-hearing-impared_ > N.htm > > > > Susan Kelmer > > Adaptive Technology Specialist/ > > Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms > > St. Louis Community College - Meramec > > 314-984-7951 > > > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jhausler at cahs.colostate.edu Wed Dec 9 10:50:35 2009 From: jhausler at cahs.colostate.edu (Hausler,Jesse) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Adobe Acrobat - What happened to the "Fields" tab? Message-ID: <3F3B6F21B523744BBA0EF420CCD8078F877DD2959F@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> Hello, I'm making an accessible PDF form using Acrobat Pro 9.2, and it appears that both the Forms toolbar and the Fields tab are gone. It forced me to use the LifeCycle designer to create the form, which I did. But then none of the form fields were in the document structure. I added them using the TouchUp Reading order tool. The issue I'm facing now is that my tab order is inconsistent. I have triple checked the order of the form fields in the Tags, and I have specified in the "Page Properties" that it use the "Document Structure" for tab order. My next step was to check the order of the form fields in Fields Tab, but alas.. it is not available in the menus under "Navigation Tabs". I know that the goal was to move people from Acro-Forms to using LifeCycle Designer, but if LC does not add form fields to the tags, what's the point? I also found that Tab order set in LC, does not translate when opening the form in Acrobat Pro. The help files and google send me to menus and options that don't exist. Any thoughts? Thanks, Jesse Hausler Colorado State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Wed Dec 9 11:40:54 2009 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Adobe Acrobat - What happened to the "Fields" tab? In-Reply-To: <3F3B6F21B523744BBA0EF420CCD8078F877DD2959F@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> References: <3F3B6F21B523744BBA0EF420CCD8078F877DD2959F@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> Message-ID: <4B1FFD46.5030900@stanford.edu> > I?m making an accessible PDF form using Acrobat > Pro 9.2, and it appears that both the Forms toolbar > and the Fields tab are gone. These will not be available if you created the form in LiveCycle Designer. Forms created in LCD are not editable in Adobe Acrobat Pro. > But then none of the form fields were in the > document structure. I added them using the > TouchUp Reading order tool. What "panel" were you looking at? I just created a LCD-based form and saved it as a static PDF. If you then open the "Tags Panel", you will see that there are form field tags in the document structure. LCD-based forms are a different "beast" than Adobe Acrobat forms, so the actual tag may look a bit different. > The issue I?m facing now is that my tab order is > inconsistent. I have triple checked the order of > the form fields in the Tags, and I have specified > in the ?Page Properties? that it use the ?Document > Structure? for tab order. While that would be true for Adobe Acrobat based forms, this does not hold true for LCD based forms. Tab order (which is incorrectly labeled IMO) is set in LCD. (Note - I am using LCD 8.2) - In LCD, go to "Window" and then "Tab Order". This will open a panel on the left side of the interface. - The default "tab order" is really the logical reading order of the document - not just the tab order. - In terms of accessibility, I would suggest checking to ensure the information "flows" correctly. The first form field element in LCD should not be Tab Order=1 IF there is text content that precedes that form field. My only suggestion would be to not edit the PDF form in Adobe Acrobat. If you used LCD to create the form, then use LCD to do all the editing. Adding the requisite accessibility information is MUCH easier in LCD for the form field elements and does not require any utilization of Acrobat Pro. Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: skeegan.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 332 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jhausler at cahs.colostate.edu Wed Dec 9 12:32:48 2009 From: jhausler at cahs.colostate.edu (Hausler,Jesse) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Adobe Acrobat - What happened to the "Fields" tab? In-Reply-To: <4B1FFD46.5030900@stanford.edu> References: <3F3B6F21B523744BBA0EF420CCD8078F877DD2959F@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> <4B1FFD46.5030900@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <3F3B6F21B523744BBA0EF420CCD8078F877DD295A2@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> Thanks Sean, I've gone back to LCD and seem to now have the tab order to something that I can live with. It's not what I specified in LCD, but it can at least be viewed as "logical". I've gone back to Acrobat to run the accessibility check. It throws an error for every form field (Not contained in structure tree), but I do see that there is a new type of OBJR in the Tags. I typically minimize (and teach others to minimize) results of the built-in accessibility full check, in exchange for more detailed human-based analysis of the PDF. Is this just another example of where the Accessibility check in Acrobat is flawed? Or is there something else up with this form? Thanks again, Jesse -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:41 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Adobe Acrobat - What happened to the "Fields" tab? > I'm making an accessible PDF form using Acrobat > Pro 9.2, and it appears that both the Forms toolbar > and the Fields tab are gone. These will not be available if you created the form in LiveCycle Designer. Forms created in LCD are not editable in Adobe Acrobat Pro. > But then none of the form fields were in the > document structure. I added them using the > TouchUp Reading order tool. What "panel" were you looking at? I just created a LCD-based form and saved it as a static PDF. If you then open the "Tags Panel", you will see that there are form field tags in the document structure. LCD-based forms are a different "beast" than Adobe Acrobat forms, so the actual tag may look a bit different. > The issue I'm facing now is that my tab order is > inconsistent. I have triple checked the order of > the form fields in the Tags, and I have specified > in the "Page Properties" that it use the "Document > Structure" for tab order. While that would be true for Adobe Acrobat based forms, this does not hold true for LCD based forms. Tab order (which is incorrectly labeled IMO) is set in LCD. (Note - I am using LCD 8.2) - In LCD, go to "Window" and then "Tab Order". This will open a panel on the left side of the interface. - The default "tab order" is really the logical reading order of the document - not just the tab order. - In terms of accessibility, I would suggest checking to ensure the information "flows" correctly. The first form field element in LCD should not be Tab Order=1 IF there is text content that precedes that form field. My only suggestion would be to not edit the PDF form in Adobe Acrobat. If you used LCD to create the form, then use LCD to do all the editing. Adding the requisite accessibility information is MUCH easier in LCD for the form field elements and does not require any utilization of Acrobat Pro. Take care, Sean From info at karlencommunications.com Wed Dec 9 12:43:50 2009 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Adobe Acrobat - What happened to the "Fields" tab? In-Reply-To: <3F3B6F21B523744BBA0EF420CCD8078F877DD295A2@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> References: <3F3B6F21B523744BBA0EF420CCD8078F877DD2959F@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> <4B1FFD46.5030900@stanford.edu> <3F3B6F21B523744BBA0EF420CCD8078F877DD295A2@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> Message-ID: <000901ca7910$5038d560$f0aa8020$@com> You can't use the Accessibility Full Check in Acrobat to check an LCD document. There is no validation tool for LCD yet. They are separate applications so the full check from Acrobat won't work with LCD based documents. You will need to develop a manual validation process. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Hausler,Jesse Sent: December-09-09 3:33 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Adobe Acrobat - What happened to the "Fields" tab? Thanks Sean, I've gone back to LCD and seem to now have the tab order to something that I can live with. It's not what I specified in LCD, but it can at least be viewed as "logical". I've gone back to Acrobat to run the accessibility check. It throws an error for every form field (Not contained in structure tree), but I do see that there is a new type of OBJR in the Tags. I typically minimize (and teach others to minimize) results of the built-in accessibility full check, in exchange for more detailed human-based analysis of the PDF. Is this just another example of where the Accessibility check in Acrobat is flawed? Or is there something else up with this form? Thanks again, Jesse -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:41 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Adobe Acrobat - What happened to the "Fields" tab? > I'm making an accessible PDF form using Acrobat > Pro 9.2, and it appears that both the Forms toolbar > and the Fields tab are gone. These will not be available if you created the form in LiveCycle Designer. Forms created in LCD are not editable in Adobe Acrobat Pro. > But then none of the form fields were in the > document structure. I added them using the > TouchUp Reading order tool. What "panel" were you looking at? I just created a LCD-based form and saved it as a static PDF. If you then open the "Tags Panel", you will see that there are form field tags in the document structure. LCD-based forms are a different "beast" than Adobe Acrobat forms, so the actual tag may look a bit different. > The issue I'm facing now is that my tab order is > inconsistent. I have triple checked the order of > the form fields in the Tags, and I have specified > in the "Page Properties" that it use the "Document > Structure" for tab order. While that would be true for Adobe Acrobat based forms, this does not hold true for LCD based forms. Tab order (which is incorrectly labeled IMO) is set in LCD. (Note - I am using LCD 8.2) - In LCD, go to "Window" and then "Tab Order". This will open a panel on the left side of the interface. - The default "tab order" is really the logical reading order of the document - not just the tab order. - In terms of accessibility, I would suggest checking to ensure the information "flows" correctly. The first form field element in LCD should not be Tab Order=1 IF there is text content that precedes that form field. My only suggestion would be to not edit the PDF form in Adobe Acrobat. If you used LCD to create the form, then use LCD to do all the editing. Adding the requisite accessibility information is MUCH easier in LCD for the form field elements and does not require any utilization of Acrobat Pro. Take care, Sean _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From skeegan at stanford.edu Wed Dec 9 14:32:10 2009 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Adobe Acrobat - What happened to the "Fields" tab? In-Reply-To: <3F3B6F21B523744BBA0EF420CCD8078F877DD295A2@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> References: <3F3B6F21B523744BBA0EF420CCD8078F877DD2959F@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> <4B1FFD46.5030900@stanford.edu> <3F3B6F21B523744BBA0EF420CCD8078F877DD295A2@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> Message-ID: <4B20256A.4020801@stanford.edu> > Is this just another example of where the Accessibility > check in Acrobat is flawed? Or is there something else > up with this form? As Karen mentioned, it is not yet possible to run the Accessibility Check on the LCD PDF. To test reading order and to determine what information will be spoken to a screen-reader, I take the form and save it as Text (Accessible) - this is under File on the menu bar and then Export. While it is not a complete test, it does provide a quick check as to what may be error points if the PDF is to be used to text-to-speech processing. As it was explained to me, LCD forms are not like Acroforms (Acrobat forms) and while they both can be displayed by Adobe Acrobat/Reader, they are fundamentally different. Thus, some of the tools in Acrobat are not functional with LCD forms. Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: skeegan.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 332 bytes Desc: not available URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 15:32:04 2009 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Webinar: Starting Up an Alternate Format Production System Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20091210153030.022b8098@pop.gmail.com> EASI Webinar: Starting Up an Alternate Format Production System . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Once you choose hope, anything's possible. 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URL: From zpaz at ldrfa.org Sat Dec 12 11:53:23 2009 From: zpaz at ldrfa.org (Zahavit Paz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen] call for committee on e-text standards in higher ed Message-ID: <51849c9a0912121153t3691bc7dpd538b032bf1dd182@mail.gmail.com> hello, thanks for the info AHEAD and Athen can peruse separate committees and collaborate unless you are planning a merger. I also consulted with Jo Anne Simon "There is no standard format for readers with disabilities in Higher Ed. There are different products, but no standard format." On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: > It would seem that this already exists the AHEAD Instructional Materials > Accessibility Group: http://ahead.org/resources/e-text > > Ron Stewart > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Howard Kramer > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:24 PM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Cc: Susan.Anthes@Colorado.EDU > Subject: [Athen] call for committee on e-text standards in higher ed > > Hello All: > > I am posting this request for Zahavit and Susan Anthes. They are > interested in starting a committee on e-text standards in Higher > ed. For more details, direct your questions to Zahavit who can > be reached via this listserv or directly at: Zahavit Paz > . > > For those of you who attended the conference a couple of weeks > ago, thank you for your participation and I hope it was > worthwhile. 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Message-ID: <6e0d34c90912141240m66ae058q1eb5e6ddc17460b3@mail.gmail.com> Hi all! My IT person found an interesting article that I thought I'd pass along - just in case you've wondered about Linux and accessibility. Is Desktop Linux Handicap Accessible? http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3853031/Is-Desktop-Linux-Handicap-Accessible.htm Here's hoping you are surviving the onslaught of finals with nary a glitch! Heidi -- +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhori at ucdavis.edu Mon Dec 14 16:23:52 2009 From: jhori at ucdavis.edu (Joshua Hori) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible Software/Hardware Wiki Message-ID: <64F1ECA8763FFC49830AE70FA1CEC6AB0104288B7380@XEDAMAIL1.ex.ad3.ucdavis.edu> Good Afternoon list! *Forgive the cross posting* Here is some more information (and videos) on Assistive software and hardware from http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/ I created this list as a quick reference as to what is available on the site. Enjoy! Wiki of Accessible Software and Hardware: Hardware Accessories (adjustable height arms for monitors, desktops, chairs, wrist rests and gel pads, furniture products and misc support aids) http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Accessories+%28Ergonomics%29 * Includes videos on hardware usage and sites for purchasing Keyboards (including mouth sticks): http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Keyboards * Includes videos on hardware usage, reviews of products, and sites for purchasing Mice (including joysticks, Using a mouse with your feet, trackball with pointer, and finger mice): http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Mice * Includes videos on hardware usage, reviews of products, and sites for purchasing Touchscreens and Tablet PC's: http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Touchscreens+and+Tablet+PCs * Includes videos on hardware usage, reviews of products, and sites for purchasing Trackballs: http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Trackballs * Includes videos on hardware usage, and a site (Trackballworld) for purchasing Reading and Writing Devices (including Intel Reader, Livescribe Smartpen, bamboo tablets, Digiscribble, Pegassus Mobile NoteTaker, Note Taker, G-Note, Wacom tablets, scanning pens, Reading Pen TS Oxford, and a Franklin Spellmaster): http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Reading+and+Writing+Devices * Includes videos on hardware usage and there are some resellers listed as well. * There is a link at the bottom of the page explaining handwriting recognition within Vista, MS Office, as well as Math Recognition using Silverlight and Google) * Here are 2 videos for the livescribe pen that is not on the wiki: o Part I: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU_RKv5zemM o Part II: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoKYAO5cpOU&feature=related Joysticks: http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Joysticks * One video on joystick usage with a few reseller sites listed. Scanners (Hardware and Software related): http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Scanners * Includes videos on hardware/software usage and there are resellers listed as well. Switches (Switches, Wireless - Mechanical - Electronic, Mouse Switch interface, Xbox 360 sip and puff controller, switch activate toys, impulse Bluetooth switch, and Magnetic controls): http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Switches * Includes videos on hardware usage, switch set up reviews, and there are some resellers listed as well. Whiteboards (Interactive Whiteboards, Promethean, Smartboard, and Whiteboards using a Wii remote): http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Whiteboards * Includes videos on hardware usage, and links to suppliers. Headsets and Microphones: http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Headsets+and+Microphones * Includes videos on hardware usage with links to other resources. Software Free and Low Cost solutions: http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Free+and+Low+Cost+Solutions * List of sites that provide open source accessible software. Majority of software is for Windows based operating systems, but there are a few Linux based assistive technology listed as well. * Free Assistive software written by Chris Stringfellow * ATutor - Open Source Web-Based Learning Content Management System * AccessApps - Huge range of open source and freeware that you can access from a USB drive * Design Science MathPlayer * OATSoft - improving Open Source development techniques * ICT Hub - choosing software * Internet4Classrooms (I4C) - free training for teachers * SENSELANG - Free touch typing tutor on the internet * Wisdom-Soft (FREE AutoScreenRecorder!!!) Voice Recognition http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Voice+Recognition * Multiple video demos * Dragon Naturally Speaking * Vista Voice Recognition * Voice recognition on the Apple Mac * Voice recognition in other languages Text Help and Word Prediction http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Text+Help+and+Word+Prediction * Useful Text Help and Word Prediction Resources On Screen Keyboards http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/On+Screen+Keyboards * Microsoft Windows Onscreen Keyboard * Alternative Onscreen Keyboards o Grid 2 and GridKeys o Click N Type o Clicker 5 o Penfriend XL * Apple Specific o KeyStrokes o Envoy * Additional Resources * Changing from QWERTY to DVORAK * Linux OSK Portable Software Solutions http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Portable+Software+Solutions * Portable Apps website * ELearning Accessibility and Inclusion * Numerous downloadable links for accessible software available as freeware Mouse emulation http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Mouse+emulation * General information * Technological Requirements Break Reminder Software http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Break+Reminder+Software * Multiple types of software for the PC and Mac that make users take breaks Operating System Accessibility XP Accessible features http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/XP Mutliple links to Microsoft web pages concerning accessibility features within XP which include: * Using the Accessibility Wizard * Adjusting Accessibility Options * Adjusting Display, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet, Sounds and Audio, Taskbar, User Accounts, and Speech Options * Using Utility Manager * Using On-Screen Keyboard, Narrator, and Magnifier Vista Accessible features http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Vista Multiple links to videos on Accessibility of Vista * Vista basics * Windows Vista Accessibility Demonstrations * Accessibility Tutorials o Ease of Access Center and Accessibility Tools o Make the Computer Easier to See o Make the Keyboard Easier to Use o Make the Mouse Easier to Use o Use the computer without Mouse or Keyboard o Use the Computer Without a Display o Make it Easier to Focus on Tasks o Use Text or Visual Alternatives for Sounds o Use Speech Recognition o Make the Internet Easier to Use * Windows Accessibility - Video Tutorials (YouTube) o Changing the Resolution o Adjusting the Font Size o Changing Windows colors o Making the Mouse Cursor Larger Windows 7 Accessible features http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Windows+7 * What's new in Windows 7? * Windows 7 Accessibility o Link to a summary of accessible features within Windows 7 * Windows 7 Presentations * Windows 7 Magnifier * Windows 7 Magnifier across multiple monitors * Windows 7 Speech Recognition (Looks promising!!) * Windows 7 On Screen Keyboard * Windows 7 Desktop - user first expressions Apple Mac Accessible features http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Apple+%28and+Mac+OS+X%29 * Videos on Mac accessibility (VoiceOver, Speech Recognition, and other accessible software) as well as links to other resources and resellers. Linux Accessible features http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Linux * Different Linux flavors (SUSE, Red Hat, Fedora, Mandriva, Debian, etc.) and desktops (Mint, GNOME, and KDE) are discussed as well as the accessible software available to them. * Has factsheets linked to the page. * Resources listed at bottom of page Ubuntu Accessible features http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Ubuntu * Multiple videos on setting up and making Ubuntu accessible. Logging into your computer http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/logging+into+your+computer * Information on different programs used to login to computers using a USB token. * Software discussed: Rohos Logon Key, Dekart Logon, and MatchLogon Joshua Hori Assistive Technology Computer Resource Specialist Student Disability Center University of California, Davis One Shields Ave Davis, CA 95616 530-752-3540 jhori@ucdavis.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shelley at techpotential.net Mon Dec 14 16:36:04 2009 From: shelley at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible Software/Hardware Wiki In-Reply-To: <64F1ECA8763FFC49830AE70FA1CEC6AB0104288B7380@XEDAMAIL1.ex.ad3.ucdavis.edu> References: <64F1ECA8763FFC49830AE70FA1CEC6AB0104288B7380@XEDAMAIL1.ex.ad3.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <7DAEC68C-A95B-4D21-B184-B484D2AEC1F4@techpotential.net> Wow! -- an impressive site, and a very helpful quick reference guide. Thanks, Joshua! - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant Shelley@TechPotential.net www.TechPotential.net On Dec 14, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Joshua Hori wrote: > Good Afternoon list! > > *Forgive the cross posting* > > Here is some more information (and videos) on Assistive software and > hardware from http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/ > I created this list as a quick reference as to what is available on > the site. Enjoy! > Wiki of Accessible Software and Hardware: > Hardware > Accessories (adjustable height arms for monitors, desktops, chairs, > wrist rests and gel pads, furniture products and misc support aids) > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Accessories+%28Ergonomics%29 > ? Includes videos on hardware usage and sites for purchasing > > Keyboards (including mouth sticks): > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Keyboards > ? Includes videos on hardware usage, reviews of products, > and sites for purchasing > > Mice (including joysticks, Using a mouse with your feet, trackball > with pointer, and finger mice): > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Mice > ? Includes videos on hardware usage, reviews of products, > and sites for purchasing > > Touchscreens and Tablet PC?s: > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Touchscreens+and+Tablet+PCs > ? Includes videos on hardware usage, reviews of products, > and sites for purchasing > > Trackballs: > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Trackballs > ? Includes videos on hardware usage, and a site > (Trackballworld) for purchasing > > Reading and Writing Devices (including Intel Reader, Livescribe > Smartpen, bamboo tablets, Digiscribble, Pegassus Mobile NoteTaker, > Note Taker, G-Note, Wacom tablets, scanning pens, Reading Pen TS > Oxford, and a Franklin Spellmaster): > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Reading+and+Writing+Devices > ? Includes videos on hardware usage and there are some > resellers listed as well. > > ? There is a link at the bottom of the page explaining > handwriting recognition within Vista, MS Office, as well as Math > Recognition using Silverlight and Google) > > ? Here are 2 videos for the livescribe pen that is not on > the wiki: > o Part I: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU_RKv5zemM > o Part II: http://www.youtube.com/watch? > v=GoKYAO5cpOU&feature=related > > Joysticks: > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Joysticks > ? One video on joystick usage with a few reseller sites > listed. > > Scanners (Hardware and Software related): > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Scanners > ? Includes videos on hardware/software usage and there are > resellers listed as well. > > Switches (Switches, Wireless ? Mechanical ? Electronic, Mouse Switch > interface, Xbox 360 sip and puff controller, switch activate toys, > impulse Bluetooth switch, and Magnetic controls): > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Switches > ? Includes videos on hardware usage, switch set up reviews, > and there are some resellers listed as well. > > Whiteboards (Interactive Whiteboards, Promethean, Smartboard, and > Whiteboards using a Wii remote): > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Whiteboards > ? Includes videos on hardware usage, and links to suppliers. > > Headsets and Microphones: > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Headsets+and+Microphones > ? Includes videos on hardware usage with links to other > resources. > > Software > > Free and Low Cost solutions: > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Free+and+Low+Cost+Solutions > ? List of sites that provide open source accessible > software. Majority of software is for Windows based operating > systems, but there are a few Linux based assistive technology listed > as well. > ? Free Assistive software written by Chris Stringfellow > ? ATutor ? Open Source Web-Based Learning Content Management > System > ? AccessApps ? Huge range of open source and freeware that > you can access from a USB drive > ? Design Science MathPlayer > ? OATSoft ? improving Open Source development techniques > ? ICT Hub - choosing software > ? Internet4Classrooms (I4C) - free training for teachers > ? SENSELANG ? Free touch typing tutor on the internet > ? Wisdom-Soft (FREE AutoScreenRecorder!!!) > > Voice Recognition > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Voice+Recognition > ? Multiple video demos > ? Dragon Naturally Speaking > ? Vista Voice Recognition > ? Voice recognition on the Apple Mac > ? Voice recognition in other languages > > Text Help and Word Prediction > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Text+Help+and+Word+Prediction > ? Useful Text Help and Word Prediction Resources > > On Screen Keyboards > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/On+Screen > +Keyboards > ? Microsoft Windows Onscreen Keyboard > ? Alternative Onscreen Keyboards > o Grid 2 and GridKeys > o Click N Type > o Clicker 5 > o Penfriend XL > ? Apple Specific > o KeyStrokes > o Envoy > ? Additional Resources > ? Changing from QWERTY to DVORAK > ? Linux OSK > > Portable Software Solutions > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Portable+Software+Solutions > ? Portable Apps website > ? ELearning Accessibility and Inclusion > ? Numerous downloadable links for accessible software > available as freeware > > Mouse emulation > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Mouse+emulation > ? General information > ? Technological Requirements > > Break Reminder Software > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Break+Reminder+Software > ? Multiple types of software for the PC and Mac that make > users take breaks > > Operating System Accessibility > XP Accessible features > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/XP > Mutliple links to Microsoft web pages concerning accessibility > features within XP which include: > ? Using the Accessibility Wizard > ? Adjusting Accessibility Options > ? Adjusting Display, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet, Sounds and > Audio, Taskbar, User Accounts, and Speech Options > ? Using Utility Manager > ? Using On-Screen Keyboard, Narrator, and Magnifier > > Vista Accessible features > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Vista > Multiple links to videos on Accessibility of Vista > ? Vista basics > ? Windows Vista Accessibility Demonstrations > ? Accessibility Tutorials > o Ease of Access Center and Accessibility Tools > o Make the Computer Easier to See > o Make the Keyboard Easier to Use > o Make the Mouse Easier to Use > o Use the computer without Mouse or Keyboard > o Use the Computer Without a Display > o Make it Easier to Focus on Tasks > o Use Text or Visual Alternatives for Sounds > o Use Speech Recognition > o Make the Internet Easier to Use > ? Windows Accessibility ? Video Tutorials (YouTube) > o Changing the Resolution > o Adjusting the Font Size > o Changing Windows colors > o Making the Mouse Cursor Larger > > Windows 7 Accessible features > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Windows+7 > ? What?s new in Windows 7? > ? Windows 7 Accessibility > o Link to a summary of accessible features within Windows 7 > ? Windows 7 Presentations > ? Windows 7 Magnifier > ? Windows 7 Magnifier across multiple monitors > ? Windows 7 Speech Recognition (Looks promising!!) > ? Windows 7 On Screen Keyboard > ? Windows 7 Desktop ? user first expressions > > Apple Mac Accessible features > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Apple+%28and+Mac+OS+X%29 > ? Videos on Mac accessibility (VoiceOver, Speech > Recognition, and other accessible software) as well as links to > other resources and resellers. > Linux Accessible features > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Linux > ? Different Linux flavors (SUSE, Red Hat, Fedora, Mandriva, > Debian, etc.) and desktops (Mint, GNOME, and KDE) are discussed as > well as the accessible software available to them. > ? Has factsheets linked to the page. > ? Resources listed at bottom of page > Ubuntu Accessible features > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/Ubuntu > ? Multiple videos on setting up and making Ubuntu accessible. > > Logging into your computer > http://abilitynet.wetpaint.com/page/logging+into+your+computer > ? Information on different programs used to login to > computers using a USB token. > ? Software discussed: Rohos Logon Key, Dekart Logon, and > MatchLogon > > > Joshua Hori > Assistive Technology > Computer Resource Specialist > Student Disability Center > University of California, Davis > One Shields Ave > Davis, CA 95616 > > 530-752-3540 > jhori@ucdavis.edu > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tft at u.washington.edu Tue Dec 15 09:54:34 2009 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen] call for committee on e-text standards in higher ed In-Reply-To: <51849c9a0912121153t3691bc7dpd538b032bf1dd182@mail.gmail.com> References: <51849c9a0912121153t3691bc7dpd538b032bf1dd182@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14C6C8313F1842459FAAD0B3FEB9E42C288C73A8@ads-mbx-02.exchange.washington.edu> Hi Zahavit, I sent a related reply to another email that you sent off the list, but I think this warrants some public discussion. I'm not personally involved in e-text production in my work so I've chosen to watch this issue from the stands, but as an observer I think there has been progress on this issue from within the AHEAD e-text group. Many of the members of that group are in fact ATHEN members, so I don't see a need for a separate committee working toward the same goal. That said though, I'll defer to those who are actually involved in the AHEAD e-text effort to clarify the current state of things. Thanks, Terrill Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 From: Zahavit Paz [mailto:zpaz@ldrfa.org] Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:53 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Howard Kramer; Terrill Thompson Subject: Athen] call for committee on e-text standards in higher ed hello, thanks for the info AHEAD and Athen can peruse separate committees and collaborate unless you are planning a merger. I also consulted with Jo Anne Simon "There is no standard format for readers with disabilities in Higher Ed. There are different products, but no standard format." On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Ron Stewart > wrote: It would seem that this already exists the AHEAD Instructional Materials Accessibility Group: http://ahead.org/resources/e-text Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:24 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Cc: Susan.Anthes@Colorado.EDU Subject: [Athen] call for committee on e-text standards in higher ed Hello All: I am posting this request for Zahavit and Susan Anthes. They are interested in starting a committee on e-text standards in Higher ed. For more details, direct your questions to Zahavit who can be reached via this listserv or directly at: Zahavit Paz >. For those of you who attended the conference a couple of weeks ago, thank you for your participation and I hope it was worthwhile. Have a good holiday. 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Guy From shelley at techpotential.net Tue Dec 15 16:13:10 2009 From: shelley at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] K-NFB ereader In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5657372C-C83C-4D33-ACCC-FC55C63A4E86@techpotential.net> I believe the ultimate goal is that the software be platform- independent -- something that will run on Macs, PCs, various mobile devices, netbooks and tablets, etc. Here's a quote from Publisher's Weekly, followed by a link to the article: Kurzweil explained that the K-NFB e-reader software will run on laptops and desktop computers (PCs and Macs) as well as netbooks and mobile phones?Windows mobile and the iPhone right away with other mobile phone operating sytems added as quickly as possible. The software can read any format from straight text to PDF and ePub. http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6702317.html - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant Shelley@TechPotential.net www.TechPotential.net On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:52 PM, B.G.Whitehouse@lboro.ac.uk wrote: > I've just read in teh RNIB's Access IT magazine about this venture > between Baker and Taylor and Kurzweil to produce the new K-NFB > ereader. To be clear, I mean the ereader which is supposed to give > us access to ebooks, not the scanning software. Does anyone know > anything about it, and what mobile phone should it be put on? Guy > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at mso.umt.edu Wed Dec 16 08:04:21 2009 From: burke at mso.umt.edu (Burke, Dan (DSS)) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] K-NFB ereader In-Reply-To: <5657372C-C83C-4D33-ACCC-FC55C63A4E86@techpotential.net> References: <5657372C-C83C-4D33-ACCC-FC55C63A4E86@techpotential.net> Message-ID: That's right - it's an accessible ebook reader. Dan Daniel J. Burke Assistant Director/Coordinator Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406.243.2243 voice/text 406.243.4424 direct line 406.243.5330 fax -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Shelley Haven Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:13 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] K-NFB ereader I believe the ultimate goal is that the software be platform-independent -- something that will run on Macs, PCs, various mobile devices, netbooks and tablets, etc. Here's a quote from Publisher's Weekly, followed by a link to the article: Kurzweil explained that the K-NFB e-reader software will run on laptops and desktop computers (PCs and Macs) as well as netbooks and mobile phones-Windows mobile and the iPhone right away with other mobile phone operating sytems added as quickly as possible. The software can read any format from straight text to PDF and ePub. http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6702317.html - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant Shelley@TechPotential.net www.TechPotential.net On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:52 PM, B.G.Whitehouse@lboro.ac.uk wrote: I've just read in teh RNIB's Access IT magazine about this venture between Baker and Taylor and Kurzweil to produce the new K-NFB ereader. To be clear, I mean the ereader which is supposed to give us access to ebooks, not the scanning software. Does anyone know anything about it, and what mobile phone should it be put on? Guy _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From norm.coombs at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 12:13:04 2009 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Recording of Starting Up an Alternate Format Production System Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20091216120808.022b39a0@pop.gmail.com> Robert Beach provided a useful presentation at the Higher Ground Conference last month entitled: Starting Up an Alternate Format Production System Last Tuesday, Robert repeated this as a live Webinar for EASI. It's recording is now available online at: http://easi.cc/archive/growingdaisy/resources.htm From tech at av-mart.com Wed Dec 16 13:45:16 2009 From: tech at av-mart.com (Technical Support) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] K-NFB ereader In-Reply-To: References: <5657372C-C83C-4D33-ACCC-FC55C63A4E86@techpotential.net> Message-ID: <27D6E75AB03E416881B223671E99BBC2@Mike> Don't forget about the contribution from the Humanware and Intel partnership: http://www.humanware.com/en-usa/products/blindness/intel_reader/_details/id_ 156/intel_reader.html -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Burke, Dan (DSS) Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 10:04 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] K-NFB ereader That's right - it's an accessible ebook reader. Dan Daniel J. Burke Assistant Director/Coordinator Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406.243.2243 voice/text 406.243.4424 direct line 406.243.5330 fax -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Shelley Haven Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:13 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] K-NFB ereader I believe the ultimate goal is that the software be platform-independent -- something that will run on Macs, PCs, various mobile devices, netbooks and tablets, etc. Here's a quote from Publisher's Weekly, followed by a link to the article: Kurzweil explained that the K-NFB e-reader software will run on laptops and desktop computers (PCs and Macs) as well as netbooks and mobile phones-Windows mobile and the iPhone right away with other mobile phone operating sytems added as quickly as possible. The software can read any format from straight text to PDF and ePub. http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6702317.html - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant Shelley@TechPotential.net www.TechPotential.net On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:52 PM, B.G.Whitehouse@lboro.ac.uk wrote: I've just read in teh RNIB's Access IT magazine about this venture between Baker and Taylor and Kurzweil to produce the new K-NFB ereader. To be clear, I mean the ereader which is supposed to give us access to ebooks, not the scanning software. Does anyone know anything about it, and what mobile phone should it be put on? Guy _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.110/2568 - Release Date: 12/16/09 02:02:00 From jbailey at uoregon.edu Wed Dec 16 14:01:55 2009 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Braille workflow Message-ID: <4B2958D3.6010908@uoregon.edu> Hello All, Next year (Sept.) we may have a student with fairly extensive Braille requirements. I would like to create a workflow that represents the process from start to finish that includes realistic deadlines etc. I plan to share this with my boss. In the past, I believe that our DS has had unrealistic expectations regarding the time it takes to create decent Braille. Any and all input will be greatly appreciated. You can e-mail me off list at jbailey@uoregon.edu. Please excuse any cross postings. Thanks and have a great holiday break! James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1501 Kincaid St. Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Thu Dec 17 10:44:57 2009 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] pictures from the ahg conference Message-ID: <20091217114457.ANU94465@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Hello All: Did anyone who attended the conference happen to take pictures, particularly during the keynote event. I'm looking for some pics I can send to Raman. Thanks, Howard From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Thu Dec 17 10:51:23 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] pictures from the ahg conference In-Reply-To: <20091217114457.ANU94465@riddler.int.colorado.edu> References: <20091217114457.ANU94465@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: I only have pictures of ME! I didn't even think about taking any during the keynote. Hope you find some. Those would be great to post on the AHG website too. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From tschwanke at wisc.edu Thu Dec 17 15:08:22 2009 From: tschwanke at wisc.edu (Todd Schwanke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning video from news websites? Message-ID: <20091217170822028.00000002592@AT_Specialist> Anyone have a good process for captioning videos posted on news websites (ABC, CBS, CNN, etc.)? Anyone having any success getting access to captioned versions from the networks since captioning on these sites is rare compared to their broadcast channels? Thanks, Todd Schwanke UW-Madison From ea at emptech.info Fri Dec 18 03:33:32 2009 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] pictures from the ahg conference In-Reply-To: <20091217114457.ANU94465@riddler.int.colorado.edu> References: <20091217114457.ANU94465@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <00a001ca7fd6$052218d0$0f664a70$@info> Sadly only got pictures of the snow! Thank you again for a lovely event and Happy Christmas and New Year - Have a lovely break. Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.org http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: 17 December 2009 18:45 To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] pictures from the ahg conference Hello All: Did anyone who attended the conference happen to take pictures, particularly during the keynote event. I'm looking for some pics I can send to Raman. Thanks, Howard _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From shelley at techpotential.net Fri Dec 18 23:02:06 2009 From: shelley at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Another Dragon and iPhone app Message-ID: And now there's Dragon Search for searching online by voice: http://www.tuaw.com/2009/12/17/dragon-search-hits-the-app-store-for-free/ Apparently Nuance has also addressed the privacy concerns for the original release of Dragon on the iPhone (second part of article): http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/12/18/dragon-search-comes-to-the-iphone/ The first release automatically uploaded contact info from the iPhone to Nuance's servers to improve transcription accuracy (this little tidbit was buried in the license agreement which virtually no one reads). The latest release makes this uploading optional, plus provides a means to delete contact info uploaded earlier. - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant Shelley@TechPotential.net www.TechPotential.net From fgsmith at vcu.edu Sat Dec 19 13:03:38 2009 From: fgsmith at vcu.edu (Frances G Smith/AC/VCU) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] AUTO: Frances G Smith/AC/VCU is out of the office. (returning 01/05/2010) Message-ID: I am out of the office until 01/05/2010. We are on winter holiday break. I will respond to your message when I return. Note: This is an automated response to your message "Athen Digest, Vol 47, Issue 20" sent on 12/19/09 15:00:01. This is the only notification you will receive while this person is away. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Questions and papers may be addressed to Teresa Haven - teresa.haven@asu.edu Looking forward to hearing from many of you who have expressed interest in writing for the E-Journal! Cheers, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Editor, ATHEN-E-Journal ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca Thu Dec 31 10:39:53 2009 From: asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca (Jennison Mark Asuncion) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] 2009 web accessibility in review Message-ID: Hello, Thought folks might find this round-up of "some" of the web accessibility happenings from 2009 of interest. It comes from the Web Axe blog, which, along with the podcasts, by the way, makes this site worth bookmarking for 2010 http://webaxe.blogspot.com/2009/12/2009-in-review.html Jennison