From Crabb.15 at osu.edu Mon Jun 1 07:22:18 2009 From: Crabb.15 at osu.edu (Crabb, Nolan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] looking for info on social networks and accessibility In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20090529074954.0231e168@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090529074954.0231e168@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200911DB087DA748846372E8038E0AE20272C228@Amazon.admin.ohio-state.edu> Norm, I presume you read the March issue of AccessWorld. There was a nice review there of FaceBook, and the author of the piece might be a good webinar candidate. Additionally, Serotek and Freedom Scientific have both done excellent podcasts on Twitter and some of the programs that have been created to make Twitter even more accessible and useful than it already is. Jamal Mazrui, www.empowermentzone.com, has written a program designed to make Twitter more accessible. There are probably other resources out there, but these come to mind quickly. Regards, Nolan From asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca Tue Jun 2 03:51:36 2009 From: asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca (Jennison Mark Asuncion) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility in Flex Message-ID: Hello, I thought some here might find this Slideshare presentation on Flex and accessibility of interest ?http://www.slideshare.net/fugaciousness/accessibility-in-flex Jennison Jennison Mark Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/jennison From ron at ahead.org Tue Jun 2 14:03:17 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Survey Message-ID: <008101c9e3c5$8e0a9350$aa1fb9f0$@org> Good afternoon all, I have been asked to assist in the dissemination of this survey on transitions and AT. Your participation would be greatly appreciated, and will help serve in several conversations on this topic in the coming weeks. Ron Stewart http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/140625/assistive-technology-and-your-college-ex perience -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jongund at illinois.edu Tue Jun 2 14:15:27 2009 From: jongund at illinois.edu (Jon Gunderson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Survey In-Reply-To: <008101c9e3c5$8e0a9350$aa1fb9f0$@org> References: <008101c9e3c5$8e0a9350$aa1fb9f0$@org> Message-ID: <20090602161527.BTC88472@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu> Ron, Who is conducting the survey? Jon ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:03:17 -0400 >From: "Ron Stewart" >Subject: [Athen] FW: Survey >To: , "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" , "'Alternate Media'" > > Good afternoon all, I have been asked to assist in the dissemination of this survey on > transitions and AT. Your participation would be greatly appreciated, and will help serve > in several conversations on this topic in the coming weeks. > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > > > http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/140625/assistive-technology-and-your-college-experience > > > > > > >________________ >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility Disability Resources and Educational Services Rehabilitation Education Center Room 86 1207 S. 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If you have received this communication in error, please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. Thank you. From ron at ahead.org Tue Jun 2 14:18:48 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Survey In-Reply-To: <20090602161527.BTC88472@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu> References: <008101c9e3c5$8e0a9350$aa1fb9f0$@org> <20090602161527.BTC88472@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <00c301c9e3c7$b8623250$292696f0$@org> It is an effort of the QIAT Grows Up project which I have discussed on numerous occasions with the membership. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jon Gunderson Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:15 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Survey Ron, Who is conducting the survey? Jon ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:03:17 -0400 >From: "Ron Stewart" >Subject: [Athen] FW: Survey >To: , "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" , "'Alternate Media'" > > Good afternoon all, I have been asked to assist in the dissemination of this survey on > transitions and AT. Your participation would be greatly appreciated, and will help serve > in several conversations on this topic in the coming weeks. > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > > > http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/140625/assistive-technology-and-your-college-ex perience > > > > > > >________________ >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility Disability Resources and Educational Services Rehabilitation Education Center Room 86 1207 S. 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If you have received this communication in error, please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From burke at mso.umt.edu Tue Jun 2 14:23:31 2009 From: burke at mso.umt.edu (Burke, Dan (DSS)) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Survey In-Reply-To: <00c301c9e3c7$b8623250$292696f0$@org> References: <008101c9e3c5$8e0a9350$aa1fb9f0$@org><20090602161527.BTC88472@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu> <00c301c9e3c7$b8623250$292696f0$@org> Message-ID: Thanks Rom - but I need a bit more info. Is there a web site for the project, goals etc.? Thanks, Dan Daniel J. Burke Assistant Director/Coordinator Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406.243.2243 voice/text 406.243.4424 direct line 406.243.5330 fax -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:19 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Survey It is an effort of the QIAT Grows Up project which I have discussed on numerous occasions with the membership. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jon Gunderson Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:15 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Survey Ron, Who is conducting the survey? Jon ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:03:17 -0400 >From: "Ron Stewart" >Subject: [Athen] FW: Survey >To: , "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" , "'Alternate Media'" > > Good afternoon all, I have been asked to assist in the dissemination of this survey on > transitions and AT. Your participation would be greatly appreciated, and will help serve > in several conversations on this topic in the coming weeks. > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > > > http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/140625/assistive-technology-and-your-colleg e-ex perience > > > > > > >________________ >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility Disability Resources and Educational Services Rehabilitation Education Center Room 86 1207 S. Oak Street Champaign, Illinois 61821 Voice: (217) 244-5870 WWW: http://www.cita.uiuc.edu/ WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/ --------------------------------------------------------------- Privacy Information --------------------------------------------------------------- This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient, or agent responsible for delivering or copying of this communication, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at ahead.org Tue Jun 2 14:27:31 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Survey In-Reply-To: References: <008101c9e3c5$8e0a9350$aa1fb9f0$@org><20090602161527.BTC88472@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu> <00c301c9e3c7$b8623250$292696f0$@org> Message-ID: <00d701c9e3c8$f0605820$d1210860$@org> Here is the website from previous conversations: http://qiatgrowsup.pbworks.com/ Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Burke, Dan (DSS) Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:24 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Survey Thanks Rom - but I need a bit more info. Is there a web site for the project, goals etc.? Thanks, Dan Daniel J. Burke Assistant Director/Coordinator Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406.243.2243 voice/text 406.243.4424 direct line 406.243.5330 fax -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:19 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Survey It is an effort of the QIAT Grows Up project which I have discussed on numerous occasions with the membership. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jon Gunderson Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:15 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: Survey Ron, Who is conducting the survey? Jon ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:03:17 -0400 >From: "Ron Stewart" >Subject: [Athen] FW: Survey >To: , "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" , "'Alternate Media'" > > Good afternoon all, I have been asked to assist in the dissemination of this survey on > transitions and AT. Your participation would be greatly appreciated, and will help serve > in several conversations on this topic in the coming weeks. > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > > > http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/140625/assistive-technology-and-your-colleg e-ex perience > > > > > > >________________ >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility Disability Resources and Educational Services Rehabilitation Education Center Room 86 1207 S. 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If you have received this communication in error, please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at ahead.org Tue Jun 2 14:48:27 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] Survey Again Message-ID: <00f201c9e3cb$dcafba20$960f2e60$@org> Okay boys and girls, I actually do listen to your input. Here is the survey URL again as a tiny ULR http://tiny.cc/nYANp Also this survey is intended to be completed by users not by service providers. Ron ************************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabilities Chair, AHEAD Instructional Materials Accessibility Group (IMAG) 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never know how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something to look forward to in the morning! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Wed Jun 3 06:51:13 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] Survey Clarification Message-ID: <01a201c9e452$5c959d50$15c0d7f0$@org> Good morning, Yesterday I sent out a request for folks to participate in the QIAT Grows Up transition survey. This survey is not an effort of AHEAD, nor indorsed or supported by AHEAD. It is an effort of the QIAT Grows UP project. You can find out more about the project at their website http://qiatgrowsup.pbworks.com/ The intent of the survey is to assess the current perceptions on the part of students who have transitioned form secondary to postsecondary ed. The results of the survey will contribute to the discussion on transition during this year's QIAT summit to be held later this month in Roseville MN. My apologies for any confusion or concern I may have created in my effort to assist this group in their work. Ron Stewart ************************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabilities Chair, AHEAD Instructional Materials Accessibility Group (IMAG) 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never know how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something to look forward to in the morning! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hadi at illinois.edu Wed Jun 3 09:27:03 2009 From: hadi at illinois.edu (Hadi Rangin) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible Wiki Message-ID: Hi everyone, I am forwarding the following question in behalf of one of our friends and former student. We as Athen Professionals probably need to conduct accessibility evaluation on selected WIKIs. Anyone is interested to work with me on the assessment of selected WIKIs? --Begin forwarded message Dear List: I'm a blind assistant professor who is contemplating using wikis in one of my classes. Could anyone recommend a wiki that is particularly accessible to those of us using screen readers? I use the latest version of JAWS for Windows. Thank you for any recommendations. Christie From gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu Wed Jun 3 12:45:37 2009 From: gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu (Gerry Nies) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lecture capture systems In-Reply-To: <20090602161527.BTC88472@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu> References: <008101c9e3c5$8e0a9350$aa1fb9f0$@org> <20090602161527.BTC88472@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <4A268CC8.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> I know some of you have already invented the wheel and done evaluations on various lecture capture systems. We are going through the evaluation process at this time so I figured I would ask for the collective wisdom of the group and find out about accessibility and usability. Both from the student and instructors perspective. One of the questions is of course captions, a second is video description. And of course are they useable with a screen reader. Thanks Gerry Nies University of North Dakota From p.harpur at qut.edu.au Wed Jun 3 14:35:19 2009 From: p.harpur at qut.edu.au (Paul Harpur) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible Wiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51FC1E99A89C9E4796A8C2E296FFFBAE07605A4442@QUTEXMBX03.qut.edu.au> I am a blind academic in a similar position so I'd be happy to help out and use my universities IT resources. I found Blackboard generally works better with Firefox than IE but I have not tested the wikki functions with Jaws yet. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Hadi Rangin Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2009 2:27 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Accessible Wiki Hi everyone, I am forwarding the following question in behalf of one of our friends and former student. We as Athen Professionals probably need to conduct accessibility evaluation on selected WIKIs. Anyone is interested to work with me on the assessment of selected WIKIs? --Begin forwarded message Dear List: I'm a blind assistant professor who is contemplating using wikis in one of my classes. Could anyone recommend a wiki that is particularly accessible to those of us using screen readers? I use the latest version of JAWS for Windows. Thank you for any recommendations. Christie _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From icdri at icdri.org Wed Jun 3 15:09:23 2009 From: icdri at icdri.org (ICDRI) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible Wiki In-Reply-To: <51FC1E99A89C9E4796A8C2E296FFFBAE07605A4442@QUTEXMBX03.qut.edu.au> References: <51FC1E99A89C9E4796A8C2E296FFFBAE07605A4442@QUTEXMBX03.qut.edu.au> Message-ID: <011d01c9e497$f4f4d350$dede79f0$@org> My understanding is that Media Wiki is the most accessible, I understand that is what Wikipedia is based upon. Sincerely, Mike Burks icdri@icdri.org http://www.icdri.org Donations are gratefully accepted. More details are available at http://www.icdri.org/donations.htm -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Paul Harpur Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:35 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible Wiki I am a blind academic in a similar position so I'd be happy to help out and use my universities IT resources. I found Blackboard generally works better with Firefox than IE but I have not tested the wikki functions with Jaws yet. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Hadi Rangin Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2009 2:27 AM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Accessible Wiki Hi everyone, I am forwarding the following question in behalf of one of our friends and former student. We as Athen Professionals probably need to conduct accessibility evaluation on selected WIKIs. Anyone is interested to work with me on the assessment of selected WIKIs? --Begin forwarded message Dear List: I'm a blind assistant professor who is contemplating using wikis in one of my classes. Could anyone recommend a wiki that is particularly accessible to those of us using screen readers? I use the latest version of JAWS for Windows. Thank you for any recommendations. Christie _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at ahead.org Thu Jun 4 04:49:15 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] MathML in Firefox Message-ID: <036d01c9e50a$7cee1060$76ca3120$@org> Good morning all, does anyone know of any efforts to fully support something like MathPlayer in Firefox of another suitable tool that fully exposes the equation to a screen reader. Ron ************************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabilities Chair, AHEAD Instructional Materials Accessibility Group (IMAG) 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never know how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something to look forward to in the morning! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However, I was able to get both Read and Write and JAWS to read the the MathML at http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/ Using the itex subset of LaTex then using itextomml, you can get good MathML. The rendering in Mozilla becomes JAWS friendly at that point (Firefox 3.0). From the above listed page... ---SNIP---- "Posts with this logo use MathML. To see the equations, you either need Mozilla or a MathML plugin for IE/Win. You will also need to install some fonts. The posts were authored in itex (an extension of WebTeX) using the itexToMML Text Filter plugin for MovableType (the README file). " Hope there is other good news out there on this front! Best, Cath ---- Cath Stager-Kilcommons Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator Disability Services 332 Willard Administration Bldg. University of Colorado at Boulder 303-492-4049 http://www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have really nice XHTML/MathML document that I want to turn into a DAISY book so far no success. For me this means I have the front end but the user end is not ready for prime time. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Catherine M. Stager Kilcommons Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 6:29 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Cc: John Paul Harris Subject: [Athen] mathml I had to play with this quite a bit this year- we were not getting very good results. We were creating the LATex with Scientific Notebook, then ended putting it into Nemeth despite our student's preference, because she was not able to get JAWS to read the MathML we created this way. The MathML rendered correctly visually but did not read right with MathPlayer or with Mozilla (Opera still has some major rendering bugs - errors - evidently). However, I was able to get both Read and Write and JAWS to read the the MathML at http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/ Using the itex subset of LaTex then using itextomml, you can get good MathML. The rendering in Mozilla becomes JAWS friendly at that point (Firefox 3.0). From the above listed page. ---SNIP---- "Posts with this logo use MathML. To see the equations, you either need Mozilla or a MathML plugin for IE/Win. You will also need to install some fonts. The posts were authored in itex (an extension of WebTeX) using the itexToMML Text Filter plugin for MovableType (the README file). " Hope there is other good news out there on this front! Best, Cath ---- Cath Stager-Kilcommons Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator Disability Services 332 Willard Administration Bldg. University of Colorado at Boulder 303-492-4049 http://www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We were creating the LATex with Scientific Notebook, then ended putting it into Nemeth despite our student's preference, because she was not able to get JAWS to read the MathML we created this way. The MathML rendered correctly visually but did not read right with MathPlayer or with Mozilla (Opera still has some major rendering bugs - errors - evidently). However, I was able to get both Read and Write and JAWS to read the the MathML at http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/ Using the itex subset of LaTex then using itextomml, you can get good MathML. The rendering in Mozilla becomes JAWS friendly at that point (Firefox 3.0). From the above listed page. ---SNIP---- "Posts with this logo use MathML. To see the equations, you either need Mozilla or a MathML plugin for IE/Win. You will also need to install some fonts. The posts were authored in itex (an extension of WebTeX) using the itexToMML Text Filter plugin for MovableType (the README file). " Hope there is other good news out there on this front! Best, Cath ---- Cath Stager-Kilcommons Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator Disability Services 332 Willard Administration Bldg. University of Colorado at Boulder 303-492-4049 http://www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 3142 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Fri Jun 5 18:31:44 2009 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys Message-ID: <4A1D3D3C00001146@> Hi all ATHENites and DSSHEs, Have any of you run across or developed an online readiness survey for your students with disabilities to take in advance of their signing up for online classes? Can you recommend questions to ask? I'm working on a research project for our CTL (center for teaching & learning) to add info. for the faculty from a student readiness perspective. Any surveys or info you can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom. Blessings in abundance, Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu From p.harpur at qut.edu.au Fri Jun 5 22:49:19 2009 From: p.harpur at qut.edu.au (Paul Harpur) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys In-Reply-To: <4A1D3D3C00001146@> References: <4A1D3D3C00001146@> Message-ID: <51FC1E99A89C9E4796A8C2E296FFFBAE0760A26959@QUTEXMBX03.qut.edu.au> Gday Wink, I?m totally blind so from a print disability perspective I found important questions were: Is there a prescribed textbook and are the readings available electronically; If they are color blind they should make sure they tell the professor so they can avoid putting green and reed on power points; If the professor is referring to power points ask the professor to either make the power points available before class or make sure they read out the content in the class. I?m now in academia but some problems I find other students have are: Not all rooms have sufficient power sockets for every laptop so I used to carry a power board; Make sure the student can access the website using their adaptive technology. If they are not up to speed with that they are in major problems. There are people who can provide training on adaptive technology and it is great to get trained. Leave sufficient time to get mobilized around campus. I attach a short manual I developed for law students at my university, Paul. ________________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink Harner [wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu] Sent: Saturday, 6 June 2009 11:31 AM To: ATHEN; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys Hi all ATHENites and DSSHEs, Have any of you run across or developed an online readiness survey for your students with disabilities to take in advance of their signing up for online classes? Can you recommend questions to ask? I'm working on a research project for our CTL (center for teaching & learning) to add info. for the faculty from a student readiness perspective. Any surveys or info you can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom. Blessings in abundance, Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Paul Harpur, Educating Law students with a vision impairment.doc Type: application/msword Size: 57344 bytes Desc: Paul Harpur, Educating Law students with a vision impairment.doc URL: From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Sat Jun 6 08:24:10 2009 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys In-Reply-To: <51FC1E99A89C9E4796A8C2E296FFFBAE0760A26959@QUTEXMBX03.qut.edu.au> Message-ID: <4A1D3D3C0000118E@> Thanks Paul! You have offered me some really great questions to put in our FAQ file for the professors. I appreciate your input. Wink >-- Original Message -- >From: Paul Harpur >To: Access Technology Higher Education Network , > "DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU" >Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 15:49:19 +1000 >Subject: Re: [Athen] online readiness surveys >Reply-To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > >Gday Wink, > >I?m totally blind so from a print disability perspective I found important >questions were: > >Is there a prescribed textbook and are the readings available electronically; >If they are color blind they should make sure they tell the professor so >they can avoid putting green and reed on power points; >If the professor is referring to power points ask the professor to either >make the power points available before class or make sure they read out the >content in the class. > >I?m now in academia but some problems I find other students have are: >Not all rooms have sufficient power sockets for every laptop so I used to >carry a power board; >Make sure the student can access the website using their adaptive technology. > If they are not up to speed with that they are in major problems. There >are people who can provide training on adaptive technology and it is great >to get trained. >Leave sufficient time to get mobilized around campus. > >I attach a short manual I developed for law students at my university, > >Paul. > > > >________________________________________ >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of >Wink Harner [wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu] >Sent: Saturday, 6 June 2009 11:31 AM >To: ATHEN; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys > >Hi all ATHENites and DSSHEs, > >Have any of you run across or developed an online readiness survey for your >students with disabilities to take in advance of their signing up for online >classes? Can you recommend questions to ask? I'm working on a research project >for our CTL (center for teaching & learning) to add info. for the faculty >from a student readiness perspective. > >Any surveys or info you can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance >for your collective wisdom. > >Blessings in abundance, > >Wink >Ms. Wink Harner >Manager >Disability Resources & Services >Mesa Community College >Mesa AZ >480-461-7447 >wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > >Attachment: Paul Harpur, Educating Law students with a vision impairment.doc > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 From asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca Sat Jun 6 10:01:48 2009 From: asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca (Jennison Mark Asuncion) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys In-Reply-To: <4A1D3D3C00001146@> References: <4A1D3D3C00001146@> Message-ID: Wink, Depending on what you are hoping the data to inform, here is my $0.02: 1. previous online learning experience - Is this the first online learning course you have taken? If not, what was your previous experience like? (the second half could be a rating question where you could drill-down around overall previous experience and accessibility) 2. overall computer knowledge - How would you rate your level of experience using a computer? (novice/intermediate/advanced - you could ask this type of question re experience with the Internet, applicable adaptive technology, and so on) 3. comfort level - this could be a rating 1-6 on items such as with online learning, with computers in general, adaptive tech, and so on. 4. Overall demo type questions such as where the student will primarily be accessing the online learning course, potential types of adaptive technology they use, self-selection re type of disability//impairment of the learner, might all be helpful. 5. A question around why the student chose to take an online learning course would also be useful. Hope this helps. Jennison Jennison Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison From twhalen at mesastate.edu Mon Jun 8 06:47:52 2009 From: twhalen at mesastate.edu (Tom Whalen) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] MathML In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A2CC228.1BCB.00CF.0@mesastate.edu> I wanted to note that my experience with MathType was less than favorable, although I was trying to create nemeth, as opposed to audio Math. Scientific Notebook did a far superior job, as MsthType rendered many errors in producing problem sets for a developmental Algebra class. I contacted the folks at Duxbury and they agreed that there were still some bugs in the transition from MathType to nemeth. >>> 6/5/2009 11:50 PM >>> Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: MathML (Ron Stewart) 2. online readiness surveys (Wink Harner) 3. Re: online readiness surveys (Paul Harpur) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:58:13 -0400 From: "Ron Stewart" Subject: Re: [Athen] MathML To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Cc: 'John Paul Harris' Message-ID: <063201c9e631$1b508ea0$51f1abe0$@org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" One more comment on this, I am moving totally away from Scientific Notebook and entirely to MathType and Infty. The feedback I have been getting in the last few months is that SN does not give a full enough symbol set. I would like to hear from other perspectives on this. Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Catherine M. Stager Kilcommons Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 6:29 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Cc: John Paul Harris Subject: [Athen] mathml I had to play with this quite a bit this year- we were not getting very good results. We were creating the LATex with Scientific Notebook, then ended putting it into Nemeth despite our student's preference, because she was not able to get JAWS to read the MathML we created this way. The MathML rendered correctly visually but did not read right with MathPlayer or with Mozilla (Opera still has some major rendering bugs - errors - evidently). However, I was able to get both Read and Write and JAWS to read the the MathML at http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/ Using the itex subset of LaTex then using itextomml, you can get good MathML. The rendering in Mozilla becomes JAWS friendly at that point (Firefox 3.0). From the above listed page. ---SNIP---- "Posts with this logo use MathML. To see the equations, you either need Mozilla or a MathML plugin for IE/Win. You will also need to install some fonts. The posts were authored in itex (an extension of WebTeX) using the itexToMML Text Filter plugin for MovableType (the README file). " Hope there is other good news out there on this front! Best, Cath ---- Cath Stager-Kilcommons Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator Disability Services 332 Willard Administration Bldg. University of Colorado at Boulder 303-492-4049 http://www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 3142 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:31:44 -0700 From: "Wink Harner" Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys To: "ATHEN" , DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Message-ID: <4A1D3D3C00001146@> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi all ATHENites and DSSHEs, Have any of you run across or developed an online readiness survey for your students with disabilities to take in advance of their signing up for online classes? Can you recommend questions to ask? I'm working on a research project for our CTL (center for teaching & learning) to add info. for the faculty from a student readiness perspective. Any surveys or info you can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom. Blessings in abundance, Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 15:49:19 +1000 From: Paul Harpur Subject: Re: [Athen] online readiness surveys To: Access Technology Higher Education Network , "DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU" Message-ID: <51FC1E99A89C9E4796A8C2E296FFFBAE0760A26959@QUTEXMBX03.qut.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Gday Wink, I?m totally blind so from a print disability perspective I found important questions were: Is there a prescribed textbook and are the readings available electronically; If they are color blind they should make sure they tell the professor so they can avoid putting green and reed on power points; If the professor is referring to power points ask the professor to either make the power points available before class or make sure they read out the content in the class. I?m now in academia but some problems I find other students have are: Not all rooms have sufficient power sockets for every laptop so I used to carry a power board; Make sure the student can access the website using their adaptive technology. If they are not up to speed with that they are in major problems. There are people who can provide training on adaptive technology and it is great to get trained. Leave sufficient time to get mobilized around campus. I attach a short manual I developed for law students at my university, Paul. ________________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink Harner [wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu] Sent: Saturday, 6 June 2009 11:31 AM To: ATHEN; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys Hi all ATHENites and DSSHEs, Have any of you run across or developed an online readiness survey for your students with disabilities to take in advance of their signing up for online classes? Can you recommend questions to ask? I'm working on a research project for our CTL (center for teaching & learning) to add info. for the faculty from a student readiness perspective. Any surveys or info you can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom. 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I contacted the folks at Duxbury and they agreed that there were still some bugs in the transition from MathType to nemeth. >>> 6/5/2009 11:50 PM >>> Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: MathML (Ron Stewart) 2. online readiness surveys (Wink Harner) 3. Re: online readiness surveys (Paul Harpur) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:58:13 -0400 From: "Ron Stewart" Subject: Re: [Athen] MathML To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Cc: 'John Paul Harris' Message-ID: <063201c9e631$1b508ea0$51f1abe0$@org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" One more comment on this, I am moving totally away from Scientific Notebook and entirely to MathType and Infty. The feedback I have been getting in the last few months is that SN does not give a full enough symbol set. I would like to hear from other perspectives on this. Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Catherine M. Stager Kilcommons Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 6:29 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Cc: John Paul Harris Subject: [Athen] mathml I had to play with this quite a bit this year- we were not getting very good results. We were creating the LATex with Scientific Notebook, then ended putting it into Nemeth despite our student's preference, because she was not able to get JAWS to read the MathML we created this way. The MathML rendered correctly visually but did not read right with MathPlayer or with Mozilla (Opera still has some major rendering bugs - errors - evidently). However, I was able to get both Read and Write and JAWS to read the the MathML at http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/ Using the itex subset of LaTex then using itextomml, you can get good MathML. The rendering in Mozilla becomes JAWS friendly at that point (Firefox 3.0). From the above listed page. ---SNIP---- "Posts with this logo use MathML. To see the equations, you either need Mozilla or a MathML plugin for IE/Win. You will also need to install some fonts. The posts were authored in itex (an extension of WebTeX) using the itexToMML Text Filter plugin for MovableType (the README file). " Hope there is other good news out there on this front! Best, Cath ---- Cath Stager-Kilcommons Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator Disability Services 332 Willard Administration Bldg. University of Colorado at Boulder 303-492-4049 http://www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 3142 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:31:44 -0700 From: "Wink Harner" Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys To: "ATHEN" , DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Message-ID: <4A1D3D3C00001146@> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi all ATHENites and DSSHEs, Have any of you run across or developed an online readiness survey for your students with disabilities to take in advance of their signing up for online classes? Can you recommend questions to ask? I'm working on a research project for our CTL (center for teaching & learning) to add info. for the faculty from a student readiness perspective. Any surveys or info you can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom. Blessings in abundance, Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ 480-461-7447 wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 15:49:19 +1000 From: Paul Harpur Subject: Re: [Athen] online readiness surveys To: Access Technology Higher Education Network , "DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU" Message-ID: <51FC1E99A89C9E4796A8C2E296FFFBAE0760A26959@QUTEXMBX03.qut.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Gday Wink, I?m totally blind so from a print disability perspective I found important questions were: Is there a prescribed textbook and are the readings available electronically; If they are color blind they should make sure they tell the professor so they can avoid putting green and reed on power points; If the professor is referring to power points ask the professor to either make the power points available before class or make sure they read out the content in the class. I?m now in academia but some problems I find other students have are: Not all rooms have sufficient power sockets for every laptop so I used to carry a power board; Make sure the student can access the website using their adaptive technology. If they are not up to speed with that they are in major problems. There are people who can provide training on adaptive technology and it is great to get trained. Leave sufficient time to get mobilized around campus. I attach a short manual I developed for law students at my university, Paul. ________________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink Harner [wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu] Sent: Saturday, 6 June 2009 11:31 AM To: ATHEN; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys Hi all ATHENites and DSSHEs, Have any of you run across or developed an online readiness survey for your students with disabilities to take in advance of their signing up for online classes? Can you recommend questions to ask? I'm working on a research project for our CTL (center for teaching & learning) to add info. for the faculty from a student readiness perspective. Any surveys or info you can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom. 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URL: From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Mon Jun 8 09:37:49 2009 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] MathML In-Reply-To: <011a01c9e849$6638b9a0$32aa2ce0$@org> References: <4A2CC228.1BCB.00CF.0@mesastate.edu> <011a01c9e849$6638b9a0$32aa2ce0$@org> Message-ID: <4A2D3E5D.7020902@mcmail.maricopa.edu> Have any of you tried the Read Write Gold 9.0 with Math Type for conversion to MATHML? Our preliminary experiments are pretty good so far. Wink Ron Stewart wrote: > > Thanks Tom it seems that it all still has a way to go. I will keep > collecting information and hopefully the process will continue to move > forward. > > Ron > > > > *From:* athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > *On Behalf Of *Tom Whalen > *Sent:* Monday, June 08, 2009 9:48 AM > *To:* athen@athenpro.org > *Subject:* [Athen] MathML > > > > I wanted to note that my experience with MathType was less than > favorable, although I was trying to create nemeth, as opposed to audio > Math. Scientific Notebook did a far superior job, as MsthType rendered > many errors in producing problem sets for a developmental Algebra > class. I contacted the folks at Duxbury and they agreed that there > were still some bugs in the transition from MathType to nemeth. > > >>> 6/5/2009 11:50 PM >>> > Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: MathML (Ron Stewart) > 2. online readiness surveys (Wink Harner) > 3. Re: online readiness surveys (Paul Harpur) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:58:13 -0400 > From: "Ron Stewart" > Subject: Re: [Athen] MathML > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > > Cc: 'John Paul Harris' > Message-ID: <063201c9e631$1b508ea0$51f1abe0$@org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > One more comment on this, I am moving totally away from Scientific > Notebook > and entirely to MathType and Infty. The feedback I have been getting > in the > last few months is that SN does not give a full enough symbol set. I > would > like to hear from other perspectives on this. > > > > Ron > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Catherine M. Stager Kilcommons > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 6:29 PM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Cc: John Paul Harris > Subject: [Athen] mathml > > > > I had to play with this quite a bit this year- we were not getting very > good results. We were creating the LATex with Scientific Notebook, then > ended putting it into Nemeth despite our student's preference, because she > was not able to get JAWS to read the MathML we created this way. The > MathML > rendered correctly visually but did not read right with MathPlayer or with > Mozilla (Opera still has some major rendering bugs - errors - evidently). > > > > However, I was able to get both Read and Write and JAWS to read the the > MathML at http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/ > > > > > Using the itex subset of LaTex then using itextomml, you can get good > MathML. The rendering in Mozilla becomes JAWS friendly at that point > (Firefox 3.0). From the above listed page. > > ---SNIP---- > > "Posts with this logo use MathML. To see the equations, you either need > Mozilla or a MathML plugin for IE/Win. You will also need to install some > fonts. > > The posts were authored in itex (an extension of WebTeX) using the > itexToMML > Text Filter plugin for MovableType (the README file). " > > > > Hope there is other good news out there on this front! > > > > Best, > > Cath > > > > ---- > > Cath Stager-Kilcommons > > Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator > > Disability Services > > 332 Willard Administration Bldg. > > University of Colorado at Boulder > > 303-492-4049 > > http://www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices/ > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: image/png > Size: 3142 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:31:44 -0700 > From: "Wink Harner" > Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys > To: "ATHEN" , DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Message-ID: <4A1D3D3C00001146@> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi all ATHENites and DSSHEs, > > Have any of you run across or developed an online readiness survey for > your > students with disabilities to take in advance of their signing up for > online > classes? Can you recommend questions to ask? I'm working on a research > project > for our CTL (center for teaching & learning) to add info. for the faculty > from a student readiness perspective. > > Any surveys or info you can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks in > advance > for your collective wisdom. > > Blessings in abundance, > > Wink > Ms. Wink Harner > Manager > Disability Resources & Services > Mesa Community College > Mesa AZ > 480-461-7447 > wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 15:49:19 +1000 > From: Paul Harpur > Subject: Re: [Athen] online readiness surveys > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network , > "DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU" > Message-ID: > <51FC1E99A89C9E4796A8C2E296FFFBAE0760A26959@QUTEXMBX03.qut.edu.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Gday Wink, > > I?m totally blind so from a print disability perspective I found > important questions were: > > Is there a prescribed textbook and are the readings available > electronically; > If they are color blind they should make sure they tell the professor > so they can avoid putting green and reed on power points; > If the professor is referring to power points ask the professor to > either make the power points available before class or make sure they > read out the content in the class. > > I?m now in academia but some problems I find other students have are: > Not all rooms have sufficient power sockets for every laptop so I used > to carry a power board; > Make sure the student can access the website using their adaptive > technology. If they are not up to speed with that they are in major > problems. There are people who can provide training on adaptive > technology and it is great to get trained. > Leave sufficient time to get mobilized around campus. > > I attach a short manual I developed for law students at my university, > > Paul. > > > > ________________________________________ > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Wink Harner [wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu] > Sent: Saturday, 6 June 2009 11:31 AM > To: ATHEN; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys > > Hi all ATHENites and DSSHEs, > > Have any of you run across or developed an online readiness survey for > your > students with disabilities to take in advance of their signing up for > online > classes? Can you recommend questions to ask? I'm working on a research > project > for our CTL (center for teaching & learning) to add info. for the faculty > from a student readiness perspective. > > Any surveys or info you can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks in > advance > for your collective wisdom. > > Blessings in abundance, > > Wink > Ms. Wink Harner > Manager > Disability Resources & Services > Mesa Community College > Mesa AZ > 480-461-7447 > wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Paul Harpur, Educating Lawstudents with a vision impairment.doc > Type: application/msword > Size: 57344 bytes > Desc: Paul Harpur, Educating Law students with a visionimpairment.doc > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 41, Issue 8 > ************************************ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: wink.harner.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 154 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ron at ahead.org Mon Jun 8 09:44:30 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] MathML In-Reply-To: <4A2D3E5D.7020902@mcmail.maricopa.edu> References: <4A2CC228.1BCB.00CF.0@mesastate.edu> <011a01c9e849$6638b9a0$32aa2ce0$@org> <4A2D3E5D.7020902@mcmail.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <002601c9e858$65689a90$3039cfb0$@org> No I have not, guess I need to get a demo. My guess is that it is going to be pretty much like using the Save As DAISY in Word with MathType. Not sure what TextHelp is adding to the equation unless you can actually read the MathML from within Word. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:38 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] MathML Have any of you tried the Read Write Gold 9.0 with Math Type for conversion to MATHML? Our preliminary experiments are pretty good so far. Wink Ron Stewart wrote: > > Thanks Tom it seems that it all still has a way to go. I will keep > collecting information and hopefully the process will continue to move > forward. > > Ron > > > > *From:* athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > *On Behalf Of *Tom Whalen > *Sent:* Monday, June 08, 2009 9:48 AM > *To:* athen@athenpro.org > *Subject:* [Athen] MathML > > > > I wanted to note that my experience with MathType was less than > favorable, although I was trying to create nemeth, as opposed to audio > Math. Scientific Notebook did a far superior job, as MsthType rendered > many errors in producing problem sets for a developmental Algebra > class. I contacted the folks at Duxbury and they agreed that there > were still some bugs in the transition from MathType to nemeth. > > >>> 6/5/2009 11:50 PM >>> > Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: MathML (Ron Stewart) > 2. online readiness surveys (Wink Harner) > 3. Re: online readiness surveys (Paul Harpur) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:58:13 -0400 > From: "Ron Stewart" > Subject: Re: [Athen] MathML > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > > Cc: 'John Paul Harris' > Message-ID: <063201c9e631$1b508ea0$51f1abe0$@org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > One more comment on this, I am moving totally away from Scientific > Notebook and entirely to MathType and Infty. The feedback I have been > getting in the last few months is that SN does not give a full enough > symbol set. I would like to hear from other perspectives on this. > > > > Ron > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On Behalf Of Catherine M. Stager Kilcommons > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 6:29 PM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Cc: John Paul Harris > Subject: [Athen] mathml > > > > I had to play with this quite a bit this year- we were not getting > very good results. We were creating the LATex with Scientific > Notebook, then ended putting it into Nemeth despite our student's > preference, because she was not able to get JAWS to read the MathML we > created this way. The MathML rendered correctly visually but did not > read right with MathPlayer or with Mozilla (Opera still has some major > rendering bugs - errors - evidently). > > > > However, I was able to get both Read and Write and JAWS to read the > the MathML at http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/ > > > > > Using the itex subset of LaTex then using itextomml, you can get good > MathML. The rendering in Mozilla becomes JAWS friendly at that point > (Firefox 3.0). From the above listed page. > > ---SNIP---- > > "Posts with this logo use MathML. To see the equations, you either > need Mozilla or a MathML plugin for IE/Win. You will also need to > install some fonts. > > The posts were authored in itex (an extension of WebTeX) using the > itexToMML Text Filter plugin for MovableType (the README file). " > > > > Hope there is other good news out there on this front! > > > > Best, > > Cath > > > > ---- > > Cath Stager-Kilcommons > > Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator > > Disability Services > > 332 Willard Administration Bldg. > > University of Colorado at Boulder > > 303-492-4049 > > http://www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices/ > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: image/png > Size: 3142 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:31:44 -0700 > From: "Wink Harner" > Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys > To: "ATHEN" , DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Message-ID: <4A1D3D3C00001146@> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi all ATHENites and DSSHEs, > > Have any of you run across or developed an online readiness survey for > your > students with disabilities to take in advance of their signing up for > online > classes? Can you recommend questions to ask? I'm working on a research > project > for our CTL (center for teaching & learning) to add info. for the faculty > from a student readiness perspective. > > Any surveys or info you can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks in > advance > for your collective wisdom. > > Blessings in abundance, > > Wink > Ms. Wink Harner > Manager > Disability Resources & Services > Mesa Community College > Mesa AZ > 480-461-7447 > wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 15:49:19 +1000 > From: Paul Harpur > Subject: Re: [Athen] online readiness surveys > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network , > "DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU" > Message-ID: > <51FC1E99A89C9E4796A8C2E296FFFBAE0760A26959@QUTEXMBX03.qut.edu.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Gday Wink, > > I?m totally blind so from a print disability perspective I found > important questions were: > > Is there a prescribed textbook and are the readings available > electronically; > If they are color blind they should make sure they tell the professor > so they can avoid putting green and reed on power points; > If the professor is referring to power points ask the professor to > either make the power points available before class or make sure they > read out the content in the class. > > I?m now in academia but some problems I find other students have are: > Not all rooms have sufficient power sockets for every laptop so I used > to carry a power board; > Make sure the student can access the website using their adaptive > technology. If they are not up to speed with that they are in major > problems. There are people who can provide training on adaptive > technology and it is great to get trained. > Leave sufficient time to get mobilized around campus. > > I attach a short manual I developed for law students at my university, > > Paul. > > > > ________________________________________ > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Wink Harner [wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu] > Sent: Saturday, 6 June 2009 11:31 AM > To: ATHEN; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys > > Hi all ATHENites and DSSHEs, > > Have any of you run across or developed an online readiness survey for > your > students with disabilities to take in advance of their signing up for > online > classes? Can you recommend questions to ask? I'm working on a research > project > for our CTL (center for teaching & learning) to add info. for the faculty > from a student readiness perspective. > > Any surveys or info you can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks in > advance > for your collective wisdom. > > Blessings in abundance, > > Wink > Ms. Wink Harner > Manager > Disability Resources & Services > Mesa Community College > Mesa AZ > 480-461-7447 > wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Paul Harpur, Educating Lawstudents with a vision impairment.doc > Type: application/msword > Size: 57344 bytes > Desc: Paul Harpur, Educating Law students with a visionimpairment.doc > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 41, Issue 8 > ************************************ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From skeegan at stanford.edu Mon Jun 8 10:47:34 2009 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] MathML In-Reply-To: <4A2CC228.1BCB.00CF.0@mesastate.edu> References: <4A2CC228.1BCB.00CF.0@mesastate.edu> Message-ID: <4A2D4EB6.40305@stanford.edu> > I wanted to note that my experience with MathType was > less than favorable, although I was trying to create > nemeth, as opposed to audio Math. Scientific Notebook > did a far superior job, as MsthType rendered many > errors in producing problem sets for a developmental Algebra class. Tom, Have you documented where you encountered problems with the translation of MathType content to Nemeth and would you be willing to share that information? I ran into some issues when going from MS Word/MathType to Duxbury as well. Most of the errors we encountered were issues with the type of symbol we used in MathType that affected the conversion process. Here are a few things we found to aid in the conversion from MS Word/MathType to Nemeth: - For matrices, verify the organization of the matrix in the .DXB file. Sometimes the first or second row of the matrix will be indented and not left-aligned. - Use the "overbar" symbol for vectors. The hotkey is "Ctrl+^, Right Arrow". The symbol itself should expand if additional characters are added beneath the vector symbol. - Use MathType parentheses and brackets. The hotkey is Ctrl+9 for parentheses. - For fractions, use the horizontal bar. The hotkey is Ctrl+f and is also known as the "full-size fraction". Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: skeegan.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 332 bytes Desc: not available URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Mon Jun 8 11:46:56 2009 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] mathml In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A2D5CA0.5040208@stanford.edu> > We were creating the LATex with Scientific Notebook, then > ended putting it into Nemeth despite our student?s > preference, because she was not able to get JAWS to read > the MathML we created this way. The MathML rendered > correctly visually but did not read right with > MathPlayer or with Mozilla Hi Cath, Were you going from Scientific Notebook to a Web page with MathML content? In order to get AT to work with math content, you need to be running Internet Explorer 6 or above AND have MathPlayer installed. > Using the itex subset of LaTex then using itextomml, you > can get good MathML. The rendering in Mozilla becomes JAWS > friendly at that point (Firefox 3.0). Hmmm - I did not find that JAWS 10.x was reading the equation correctly with Firefox 3. While JAWS did read parts of the equation - mainly the text - it missed super/sub script values as well as Greek symbols (I think it kept reporting one as "question mark"). Based on what I have seen so far, the only support for AT appears to be with IE and MathPlayer on Web pages. While other browsers support the rendering of the equation, there is little to no support for communicating the actual math information. If anyone has other experiences, please let me know! Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You can find the (inaccessible) video here: http://movies.apple.com/media/us/iphone/2009/tours/apple-iphone3gs-guided_tour-us-20090608_r320-9cie.mov Chris From pratikp1 at gmail.com Mon Jun 8 12:37:40 2009 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] New iPhone made Accessible In-Reply-To: <4A2D61B6.1050205@gmail.com> References: <4A2D61B6.1050205@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004701c9e870$971f93a0$c55ebae0$@com> And better yet, Here's the description of the accessibility features: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html I think I might be the first one on the line on June 19th. Pratik -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Doucet Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:09 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] New iPhone made Accessible Hello all, The new iPhone 3Gs has built-in accessibility features such as VoiceOver and Speech enabled controls. You can find the (inaccessible) video here: http://movies.apple.com/media/us/iphone/2009/tours/apple-iphone3gs-guided_to ur-us-20090608_r320-9cie.mov Chris _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca Mon Jun 8 15:12:00 2009 From: asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca (Jennison Mark Asuncion) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] [WebAIM] Free webinar on Accessibility in PDF documents and forms - June 17 (fwd) Message-ID: Hello, Thought some here might find this info of interest. Jennison Jennison Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:54:57 -0700 From: Tony DeYoung - AUC Reply-To: WebAIM Discussion List To: webaim-forum@list.webaim.org Subject: [WebAIM] Free webinar on Accessibility in PDF documents and forms - June 17 I figure this should interest a lot of folks, particularly those in government or companies that create PDFs for completing forms. Title: Accessibility in PDF documents and forms When: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 Time: 10:00 am US Pacific (1pm US Eastern) Register at: http://acrobatusers.com/monthly_topic/2009/06 Join us Wednesday, June 17 2009 at 10:00 am US Pacific, for a free eSeminar on how you can use the features in Acrobat 9 to make PDF files fully accessible and Section 508 compliant. Learn how to create accessible PDF documents and forms, analyze existing PDF files for accessibility, and add other interactive features to make your documents and forms more accessible. In addition to our special guest speaker, Adobe Accessibility Product Managers Andrew Kirkpatrick and Greg Pisocky will be on hand in the chat room to answer your questions. Accessibility features in Acrobat 9 fall into two broad categories: Features for making existing PDF documents more accessible for reading and features for creating accessible PDF documents. To create accessible PDF documents, you must use Acrobat, not Reader. Acrobat 9 also offers a complete set of tools to create and optimize accessible PDF files from almost any source. In this eSeminar, you'll learn how to: ? Create accessible PDF documents and forms ? Analyze existing PDF files and make them accessible ? Add other interactive features to make your documents and forms more accessible To register for this event, go to: http://acrobatusers.com/monthly_topic/2009/06 AcrobatUsers.com hosts a large selection of written and video tutorials on create accessible PDF documents and forms at: http://www.acrobatusers.com/topics/accessibility _______________________________________________ To manage your subscription, visit http://list.webaim.org/ Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org From kestrell at panix.com Mon Jun 8 15:24:35 2009 From: kestrell at panix.com (Kestrell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] New iPhone made Accessible References: <4A2D61B6.1050205@gmail.com> <004701c9e870$971f93a0$c55ebae0$@com> Message-ID: Pratik, Have you had a chance to try this? How is a blind user supposed to type on it? Is there a keyboard provided? Kes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pratik Patel" To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [Athen] New iPhone made Accessible > And better yet, Here's the description of the accessibility features: > > http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html > > I think I might be the first one on the line on June 19th. > > Pratik > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Christopher Doucet > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:09 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] New iPhone made Accessible > > Hello all, > > The new iPhone 3Gs has built-in accessibility features such as VoiceOver > and Speech enabled controls. You can find the (inaccessible) video > here: > http://movies.apple.com/media/us/iphone/2009/tours/apple-iphone3gs-guided_to > ur-us-20090608_r320-9cie.mov > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From pratikp1 at gmail.com Mon Jun 8 15:47:21 2009 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] New iPhone made Accessible In-Reply-To: References: <4A2D61B6.1050205@gmail.com> <004701c9e870$971f93a0$c55ebae0$@com> Message-ID: <006c01c9e88b$16c24b60$4446e220$@com> The lack of a physical keyboard is one of the least attractive things. The Apple site describes a way to use the virtual keyboard by using the screen. It seems a bit inefficient. And, no. I'm afraid I haven't tried it but am willing to take the risk in the name of research. I just wish it weren't so expensive. Pratik -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kestrell Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 6:25 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] New iPhone made Accessible Pratik, Have you had a chance to try this? How is a blind user supposed to type on it? Is there a keyboard provided? Kes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pratik Patel" To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [Athen] New iPhone made Accessible > And better yet, Here's the description of the accessibility features: > > http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html > > I think I might be the first one on the line on June 19th. > > Pratik > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Christopher Doucet > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:09 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] New iPhone made Accessible > > Hello all, > > The new iPhone 3Gs has built-in accessibility features such as VoiceOver > and Speech enabled controls. You can find the (inaccessible) video > here: > http://movies.apple.com/media/us/iphone/2009/tours/apple-iphone3gs-guided_to > ur-us-20090608_r320-9cie.mov > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Tue Jun 9 15:01:20 2009 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (normajean.brand) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] New display technology In-Reply-To: <4A11AED2.2050903@stanford.edu> References: <4A11AED2.2050903@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <801E7AFBD02DE54BA988F6520E408E1DA33B2E@ADMINMAIL1.ad.hccs.edu> Sean, Horde or Alli? ;) Regards, Norma Jean ----------------------------------------------- NJ Brand Houston Community College-Northwest ADA Technician Technology and Instructional Computing Room RC13 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. Houston TX 77043 VM/Office: 713.718.5604 FAX: 713.718.5430 Email: normajean.brand@hccs.edu http://northwest.hccs.edu SkypeMe: nj.brand -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 1:54 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Alternate Media Subject: [Athen] New display technology Received this article from a colleague. I had heard of this "electrofluidic display" technology as a concept, but it looks like there is some actual work being done to make this a functional product. http://www.uc.edu/news/NR.aspx?id=10068 While there is potential to advance e-ink displays, that is far too tame - I want to wallpaper a room with this stuff (i.e., World of Warcraft in 3-D!). Take care, Sean From kellers at cahs.colostate.edu Tue Jun 9 16:18:36 2009 From: kellers at cahs.colostate.edu (Keller,Sherri) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Assistive Tech Funding Resources Message-ID: Hello group, We are trying to generate a list of resources for our graduating students of possible funding resources for Assistive Technology once they are in the workforce. Would you please send me any names of foundations, grants, low interest AT loans, anything... that supports the individual financially when purchasing Assistive Technology. Any information would be very helpful! Thanks, Sherri G. Keller Student Coordinator Assistive Technology Resource Center 970-491-6258 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Keller > > Student Coordinator > > Assistive Technology Resource Center > > 970-491-6258 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: wink.harner.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 154 bytes Desc: not available URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Tue Jun 9 19:01:58 2009 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Scanning and Read and Write Gold for Mac In-Reply-To: <1523341408.2297511244598958107.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <50786558.2298021244599318986.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu> Hello all, I have been playing with the new version of Read and Write Gold 3 for Mac to test out its functionality and general usability. I have encountered a bit of an issue when attempting to scan, however, and wanted to know if anyone else has experienced this situation. I have an image-based PDF document; that is, a PDF with just an image of text. Using Read and Write Gold for Mac, I am unable to scan/OCR the PDF. It seems that Read and Write Gold for Mac is only able to scan file types identified as "Image Files" (e.g., TIFF), but PDF does not seem be considered an "image file" type. Has anyone else had this experience on the OS X platform? Changing the file name is not an option (e.g., from .PDF to .TIF) as it is a multi-page PDF and Read and Write Gold for Mac would not process the file. It would show the .TIF version as an "acceptable" file type, but would not actually *do* anything to the file. I was able to get a single-page TIFF file to work and Read and Write Gold for Mac was able to scan/OCR the file, but this is not a real solution as there are A LOT of multi-page, image-based PDF documents. I also tried out Read and Write Gold version 9 for Windows and it had no problems at all opening a multi-page, image-based PDF file and then performing the scan/OCR. In fact, it actually worked far better than previous experience as did the PDF Aloud component. That being said, using Windows is not an option (on the Mac OS and the VM Ware Windows partition is not functioning properly) and us processing alternate media is not going to work in the short term as the individual will be traveling throughout the summer months doing research. Am I missing something on the Mac platform and what is considered to be an "image file" type? Has anyone had successful experience using Read and Write Gold for Mac with image-based PDF documents? Take care, Sean From kellers at cahs.colostate.edu Wed Jun 10 10:51:51 2009 From: kellers at cahs.colostate.edu (Keller,Sherri) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 40, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here are additional Mac AT tools: http://www.assistiveware.com/products.php I saw these products demonstrated at CSUN last year. We are hoping to purchase them this fall for our students, I can keep you posted how they work. Sherri G. Keller, MS, OTR Student Coordinator, Assistive Technology Resource Center Colorado State University, 307 Occupational Therapy Building Fort Collins, CO 80523 970-491-6258 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Kindle Release Notes Thus far (Karlen Communications) 2. Re: Kindle Release Notes Thus far (Robert Martinengo) 3. Re: Mac alt format tools (Ogami, Sam) 4. Re: Mac alt format tools (Ron Stewart) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:23:37 -0400 From: "Karlen Communications" Subject: Re: [Athen] Kindle Release Notes Thus far To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <000d01c9ce6f$649cd020$2dd67060$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" And what will it do with untagged PDF? Will its ability to "read" PDF provide more or less accessibility to textbooks? On the other hand if it reads tagged PDF this might be a way to influence publishers to create tagged PDF? Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Martinengo Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:01 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Kindle Release Notes Thusfar If it displays PDF out of the box, its not that big a whoop to offer textbooks, but what will be interesting is if the read-aloud feature will enabled or disabled on the textbook content... my guess is disabled, but who knows? On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: > The press conference is being aired now, and I?m picking up a few > interesting notes so far: > > > > 1.?????? ?Screen is 9.7 inches tall > > 2.?????? Auto-orient if Kindle is turned sideways > > 3.?????? If a book is offered for the Kindle, 35% of the book?s sales are > going to Kindle owners (a SHOCKING amount) > > 4.?????? Cost is $489 > > 5.?????? Books in PDF come with a native PDF reader on board. > > 6.?????? Can hold 3500 books (another shocking figure) > > 7.?????? 25% more battery life, read for days without recharging > > 8.?????? More grey-scale, up to 16 shades of grey now. > > 9.?????? Read-to-Me feature that will read every newspaper, magazine, blog, > and book out loud unless disabled by the rights holder. > > 10.?? More than 275K books, newspapers, magazines, and blogs available > > 11.?? Price drops, most new releases plus the NYTimes bestsellers for 9.99 > > 12.?? 1/3 inch thick, 10.2 ounces > > 13.?? Amazon has partnered with Pearson, Wiley, and Cengage to provide > textbooks on the Kindle. > > > > > > > > Susan Kelmer > > Adaptive Technology Specialist/ > > Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms > > St. Louis Community College - Meramec > > 314-984-7951 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:49:11 -0400 From: Robert Martinengo Subject: Re: [Athen] Kindle Release Notes Thus far To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Message-ID: <9edf8160905061049t1e6587c8nd3f535cb9e45a663@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Teleread they posted some info saying it was the Adobe Mobile PDF platform, not a full Reader, but it is supposed to handle reflowable content. http://www.teleread.org/2009/05/06/kindle-dx-will-ship-with-adobes-pdf-capabilities-but-not-epub-time-for-academic-community-to-speak-up/ On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Karlen Communications wrote: > And what will it do with untagged PDF? Will its ability to "read" PDF > provide more or less accessibility to textbooks? > > On the other hand if it reads tagged PDF this might be a way to influence > publishers to create tagged PDF? > > Cheers, Karen > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Martinengo > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:01 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Kindle Release Notes Thusfar > > If it displays PDF out of the box, its not that big a whoop to offer > textbooks, but what will be interesting is if the read-aloud feature > will enabled or disabled on the textbook content... my guess is > disabled, but who knows? > > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: >> The press conference is being aired now, and I?m picking up a few >> interesting notes so far: >> >> >> >> 1.?????? ?Screen is 9.7 inches tall >> >> 2.?????? Auto-orient if Kindle is turned sideways >> >> 3.?????? If a book is offered for the Kindle, 35% of the book?s sales are >> going to Kindle owners (a SHOCKING amount) >> >> 4.?????? Cost is $489 >> >> 5.?????? Books in PDF come with a native PDF reader on board. >> >> 6.?????? Can hold 3500 books (another shocking figure) >> >> 7.?????? 25% more battery life, read for days without recharging >> >> 8.?????? More grey-scale, up to 16 shades of grey now. >> >> 9.?????? Read-to-Me feature that will read every newspaper, magazine, > blog, >> and book out loud unless disabled by the rights holder. >> >> 10.?? More than 275K books, newspapers, magazines, and blogs available >> >> 11.?? Price drops, most new releases plus the NYTimes bestsellers for 9.99 >> >> 12.?? 1/3 inch thick, 10.2 ounces >> >> 13.?? Amazon has partnered with Pearson, Wiley, and Cengage to provide >> textbooks on the Kindle. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Susan Kelmer >> >> Adaptive Technology Specialist/ >> >> Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms >> >> St. Louis Community College - Meramec >> >> 314-984-7951 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:52:17 -0700 From: "Ogami, Sam" Subject: Re: [Athen] Mac alt format tools To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Ron, I have been spoiled by having VMware on my computer so that if I need to create anything AT related I use Windows. All of the AT software that I have run on VMware image works. (Duxbury, OmniPage, JAWS 10, TextAloud, K3000, EasyReader). TSS Applications: If you want a free tts application that can also save out to aiff the SpeechSyenthExample application in xcode is a functional tool. It is located at /Developer/Examples/Speech/Synthesis/SpeechSynthesisExample Converting aiff to mp3 can be accomplished with itunes. Ghost Reader anthor tts application (not tested) http://www.convenienceware.com/ghostreader.php Kurzweil 3000 for Macintosh (not used an a http://www.kurzweiledu.com/kurz3000macV4.aspx DAISY Software: DAISY pipeline for the mac works well. http://daisymfc.sourceforge.net/ Emerson Reader is a free Epub and DAISY reader but is still being worked on: http://code.google.com/p/emerson-reader/ Olearia is another free DAISY playback software that is still in beta but works on some DAISY books: http://www.cucat.org/projects/olearia/ Victor Reader Soft for the Mac DAISY player (have not tested this application) https://custhub.rfbd.org/SearchPlaybackDevices.asp Speech to text MacSpeech - http://www.macspeech.com/ Apple list of AT Software http://www.apple.com/accessibility/resources/macosx.html Hope this list is helpful, Sam Ogami Accessible Technology Expert CSU Office of the Chancellor (562) 951-4201 voice (562) 951-4925 fax sogami@calstate.edu On 5/6/09 5:43 AM, "Ron Sewart" wrote: Morning all, I am looking for tools to create and use alt format materials for the Mac OS. If you can send me your favorites or even your not so favorite but functional tools it would be greatly appreciated. Ron Stewart ************************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabilities Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never know how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something to look forward to in the morning! ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:55:14 -0400 From: "Ron Stewart" Subject: Re: [Athen] Mac alt format tools To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <005801c9ce73$cef25a40$6cd70ec0$@org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks Sam this is helpful Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ogami, Sam Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:52 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Mac alt format tools Hello Ron, I have been spoiled by having VMware on my computer so that if I need to create anything AT related I use Windows. All of the AT software that I have run on VMware image works. (Duxbury, OmniPage, JAWS 10, TextAloud, K3000, EasyReader). TSS Applications: If you want a free tts application that can also save out to aiff the SpeechSyenthExample application in xcode is a functional tool. It is located at /Developer/Examples/Speech/Synthesis/SpeechSynthesisExample Converting aiff to mp3 can be accomplished with itunes. Ghost Reader anthor tts application (not tested) http://www.convenienceware.com/ghostreader.php Kurzweil 3000 for Macintosh (not used an a http://www.kurzweiledu.com/kurz3000macV4.aspx DAISY Software: DAISY pipeline for the mac works well. http://daisymfc.sourceforge.net/ Emerson Reader is a free Epub and DAISY reader but is still being worked on: http://code.google.com/p/emerson-reader/ Olearia is another free DAISY playback software that is still in beta but works on some DAISY books: http://www.cucat.org/projects/olearia/ Victor Reader Soft for the Mac DAISY player (have not tested this application) https://custhub.rfbd.org/SearchPlaybackDevices.asp Speech to text MacSpeech - http://www.macspeech.com/ Apple list of AT Software http://www.apple.com/accessibility/resources/macosx.html Hope this list is helpful, Sam Ogami Accessible Technology Expert CSU Office of the Chancellor (562) 951-4201 voice (562) 951-4925 fax sogami@calstate.edu On 5/6/09 5:43 AM, "Ron Sewart" wrote: Morning all, I am looking for tools to create and use alt format materials for the Mac OS. If you can send me your favorites or even your not so favorite but functional tools it would be greatly appreciated. Ron Stewart ************************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabilities Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never know how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something to look forward to in the morning! _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 40, Issue 6 ************************************ From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Wed Jun 10 14:42:52 2009 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (normajean.brand) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Scanning and Read and Write Gold for Mac In-Reply-To: <50786558.2298021244599318986.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu> References: <1523341408.2297511244598958107.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu> <50786558.2298021244599318986.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <801E7AFBD02DE54BA988F6520E408E1DA33BE9@ADMINMAIL1.ad.hccs.edu> Sean, if I understand you correctly you have a document that is already in PDF format and are trying to get Read and Write Gold to scan/read it? Looking at the training documentation online http://texthelp.com/page.asp?pg_id=10017 or http://www.texthelp.com/webfiles/US%20RWG%20for%20Mac%20V3%20Training%20guide.pdf , (pgs 13-14) it appears that there is a "PDFAloud" toolbar that you may need to bring up in order for RWG to properly process it and read it. Pg 13: Reading PDF documents In this exercise you?ll learn how to read text aloud from PDF documents, using PDFaloud. You?ll also learn how to set up which colors you would like to use to read text aloud, using the Preferences in Read&Write 3 GOLD For Mac. ? For further information on using PDFaloud, refer to the PDFaloud help located in the PDFaloud3 menu. 1.Start Adobe Acrobat and then open a PDF document. You can see the PDFaloud3 Toolbar displayed, as shown in Figure 3-7. Figure 3-7 PDFaloud3 Toolbar Calculator button Fact Finder button Speak button Click-and-Speak button Type of text drop down list Speech buttons 2.Click on the drop down list on the toolbar and select the Select text one word at a time option. 3.Click on the button. PDFaloud reads aloud the first word in your document. 4.Click on the drop down list on the toolbar and select the Select text one sentence at a time option. 5.Click on the button. PDFaloud reads aloud the first sentence in your document. ? You can click on the button at any time to stop the system from reading the text aloud. 6.Click on the button to activate the Click-and-Speak facility. 7.Click on any sentence in your document. The system reads the sentence aloud. ? You can access any of the Speech options from the PDFaloud3 menu. 8.Close your PDF document. There is more information after this on setting some other options. Now, if you mean you are trying to scan TO a PDF (create a PDF) this same documentation (pgs 80-81): In this exercise you?ll learn how to set up scanning options and scan documents to PDF. 1.Click on the Tools menu, select the Scan Options sub-menu and then make sure the following options are selected: ?Scan to PDF ?Auto Open Output ?Load from Scanner. 2.Place a page into your scanner and then click on the button. ? You see the scanning options window displayed. The window you see depends on the scanning software you have installed on your Apple Mac. Set up your scanning options to continue. The image is scanned and opened as a PDF document. ---------------------------------- I trialed Read and Write Gold several years ago. For the most part I liked it, but the students felt like the learning curve was a bit steep and preferred WYNN or Kurzweil over RWG so we didn't pursue it any further. It still seems like a great product with more advancements since my first trial. I hope this helps. Regards, Norma Jean ----------------------------------------------- NJ Brand Houston Community College-Northwest ADA Technician Technology and Instructional Computing Room RC13 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. Houston TX 77043 VM/Office: 713.718.5604 FAX: 713.718.5430 Email: normajean.brand@hccs.edu http://northwest.hccs.edu SkypeMe: nj.brand -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:02 PM To: altmedia; athen Subject: [Athen] Scanning and Read and Write Gold for Mac Hello all, I have been playing with the new version of Read and Write Gold 3 for Mac to test out its functionality and general usability. I have encountered a bit of an issue when attempting to scan, however, and wanted to know if anyone else has experienced this situation. I have an image-based PDF document; that is, a PDF with just an image of text. Using Read and Write Gold for Mac, I am unable to scan/OCR the PDF. It seems that Read and Write Gold for Mac is only able to scan file types identified as "Image Files" (e.g., TIFF), but PDF does not seem be considered an "image file" type. Has anyone else had this experience on the OS X platform? Changing the file name is not an option (e.g., from .PDF to .TIF) as it is a multi-page PDF and Read and Write Gold for Mac would not process the file. It would show the .TIF version as an "acceptable" file type, but would not actually *do* anything to the file. I was able to get a single-page TIFF file to work and Read and Write Gold for Mac was able to scan/OCR the file, but this is not a real solution as there are A LOT of multi-page, image-based PDF documents. I also tried out Read and Write Gold version 9 for Windows and it had no problems at all opening a multi-page, image-based PDF file and then performing the scan/OCR. In fact, it actually worked far better than previous experience as did the PDF Aloud component. That being said, using Windows is not an option (on the Mac OS and the VM Ware Windows partition is not functioning properly) and us processing alternate media is not going to work in the short term as the individual will be traveling throughout the summer months doing research. Am I missing something on the Mac platform and what is considered to be an "image file" type? Has anyone had successful experience using Read and Write Gold for Mac with image-based PDF documents? Take care, Sean _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From skeegan at stanford.edu Wed Jun 10 16:32:15 2009 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Scanning and Read and Write Gold for Mac In-Reply-To: <801E7AFBD02DE54BA988F6520E408E1DA33BE9@ADMINMAIL1.ad.hccs.edu> References: <1523341408.2297511244598958107.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu> <50786558.2298021244599318986.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu> <801E7AFBD02DE54BA988F6520E408E1DA33BE9@ADMINMAIL1.ad.hccs.edu> Message-ID: <4A30427F.8010205@stanford.edu> > Sean, if I understand you correctly you have a document > that is already in PDF format and are trying to get Read > and Write Gold to scan/read it? The short answer is Yes, I am trying to get Read and Write Gold for Mac to scan/OCR a PDF document. It is an image-based PDF; that is, there is no actual text for PDFAloud to read. I have been playing with the PDFAloud component, but the types of PDF documents we have are image-based and need to be scanned/OCR'd by R&W Gold before they can be processed by PDFAloud. The issue I am encountering (and it seems others have encountered this as well) is that R&W Gold for Mac will not recognize the PDF file extension as a format to be scanned. This is not a problem on the Windows version (I scanned/OCR'd a 12 page, image-based PDF document and it worked fine with PDFAloud). The problem is on the Mac platform and R&W Gold's inability to recognize PDF as a valid file format to be scanned/OCR'd. Thanks much for your feedback. Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: skeegan.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 344 bytes Desc: not available URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Thu Jun 11 06:31:02 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Cengage Learning Message-ID: Does anyone have any better luck getting materials from Cengage than I am? They always send us a web link to download/save their stuff, and it is ALWAYS in one giant PDF that I can barely open, much less do anything else with! The latest is a World Geography book, 744 pages, in one freakishly HUGE file and the only thing I can do is export it and then try to break out the chapters, then edit, then record the audio. So far, my high-end computer is balking at doing this, it took more than 8 minutes for it to open the file in Adobe Professional to begin with. I don't hold out much hope that it will actually be able to do the job in the end, and machines don't get much faster than what I've got sitting on my desk. In these cases, it's quicker to buy, cut, and scan the book! How on earth are we supposed to get through to these publishers, anyway? I want a Word file. Or a Text file. Or an HTML file. 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Most of the time I don't want Word extractions from publishers because they are such a mess to clean up, especially for books with complex layouts -- we spend more time cleaning up publisher-supplied Word extractions than we would just chopping, scanning, and editing books ourselves. You're right, in order to open and break up the PDF files they send, you do have to have a machine running Adobe Acrobat Pro with a decent amount of RAM, although I've been successfully doing it on a 6-year-old desktop which isn't exactly high-end. It would be nice if they would send the books as chapters/sections as some other publishers do. However, since it isn't an ideal world and I'm comparing the pros and cons of one publisher to another, I'll take Cengage's timely delivery any day over the generally slow delivery of McGraw Hill; getting a publisher file that I still have to edit 4 months after I've requested it usually does me no good. As you say, sometimes the best we can do is still to buy, chop, and scan; I request publisher files but always assume that I'm going to have to go the full hardcopy conversion route. Getting the publisher file then is just a bonus on my day. :) Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternate Format Program Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:31 AM To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Cengage Learning Does anyone have any better luck getting materials from Cengage than I am? They always send us a web link to download/save their stuff, and it is ALWAYS in one giant PDF that I can barely open, much less do anything else with! The latest is a World Geography book, 744 pages, in one freakishly HUGE file and the only thing I can do is export it and then try to break out the chapters, then edit, then record the audio. So far, my high-end computer is balking at doing this, it took more than 8 minutes for it to open the file in Adobe Professional to begin with. I don't hold out much hope that it will actually be able to do the job in the end, and machines don't get much faster than what I've got sitting on my desk. In these cases, it's quicker to buy, cut, and scan the book! How on earth are we supposed to get through to these publishers, anyway? I want a Word file. Or a Text file. Or an HTML file. ANYTHING but a PDF. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Thu Jun 11 07:49:13 2009 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] =?iso-8859-1?q?_Webinar=3A_Introducing_NFB-NEWSLINE=AE_Tu?= =?iso-8859-1?q?e=2EJune___16_at_2_PM?= Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20090611074804.02383838@pop.gmail.com> Webinar: Introducing NFB-NEWSLINE? Tue.June 16 at 2 PM Using modern-age assistive technology to provide access and create opportunities for the print-disabled. Presenter: Scott White, Director, Sponsored Technology Programs, National Federation of the Blind Co-host: Renee West, Marketing and Outreach Manager, Sponsored Technology Programs, National Federation of the Blind NFB-NEWSLINE?, the largest electronic newspaper service in the world for blind and print-disabled Americans, has recently launched NFB-NEWSLINE? Online (www.nfbnewslineonline.org). Through NFB-NEWSLINE? Online's ground breaking features, subscribers can enjoy both an enhanced experience in reading the news and dramatically increased flexibility in how they choose to access their favorite publication's content. This Webinar will provide information on our two revolutionary new features, Web News on Demand and NFB-NEWSLINE? In Your Pocket, and how these initiatives can serve as valuable tools in the everyday lives of the print-disabled. Register online for this event Tuesday and register early: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm You will get login information on or before June 15. From kellers at cahs.colostate.edu Thu Jun 11 11:50:27 2009 From: kellers at cahs.colostate.edu (Keller,Sherri) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Funding Resources Message-ID: I'm still working on a list for funding resources, however the job has been done! Assistive Technology Partners out of Denver has a great web page designed just for this. Here is the link, http://www.at-partners.org/ATFunding/ You will need to register your information before allowed access to the database. Sherri G. Keller, MS, OTR Student Coordinator, Assistive Technology Resource Center Colorado State University, 307 Occupational Therapy Building Fort Collins, CO 80523 970-491-6258 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Thu Jun 11 13:51:45 2009 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (normajean.brand) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] curious... Governor Schwarzenegger's recent press release regarding digital format In-Reply-To: <7D1A596A5CA64522BECBA973DD5785CB@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <7D1A596A5CA64522BECBA973DD5785CB@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <801E7AFBD02DE54BA988F6520E408E1DA33CAF@ADMINMAIL1.ad.hccs.edu> According to this press release, California will be converting textbooks to digital format this August: http://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/fact-sheet/12455/ I don't see anything in this press release about digital format for post-secondary textbooks. Is there something else Governor Schwarzenegger has in mind for college students? Some of our faculty are pointing to this press release and asking the same kinds of questions and are looking, perhaps, for Texas to follow suit. One of our problems is our adoption of heavily customized textbooks even within the district. Regards, Norma Jean ----------------------------------------------- NJ Brand Houston Community College-Northwest ADA Technician Technology and Instructional Computing Room RC13 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. Houston TX 77043 VM/Office: 713.718.5604 FAX: 713.718.5430 Email: normajean.brand@hccs.edu http://northwest.hccs.edu SkypeMe: nj.brand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Thu Jun 11 14:12:49 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] curious... Governor Schwarzenegger's recent press release regarding digital format In-Reply-To: <801E7AFBD02DE54BA988F6520E408E1DA33CAF@ADMINMAIL1.ad.hccs.edu> References: <7D1A596A5CA64522BECBA973DD5785CB@htctu.fhda.edu> <801E7AFBD02DE54BA988F6520E408E1DA33CAF@ADMINMAIL1.ad.hccs.edu> Message-ID: <07ef01c9ead9$5ff786b0$1fe69410$@org> This may be his wish, but the likelihood of it happening is a different story. If nothing else Cal accessibility law is going to get in the way. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of normajean.brand Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:52 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] curious... Governor Schwarzenegger's recent press release regarding digital format According to this press release, California will be converting textbooks to digital format this August: http://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/fact-sheet/12455/ I don't see anything in this press release about digital format for post-secondary textbooks. Is there something else Governor Schwarzenegger has in mind for college students? Some of our faculty are pointing to this press release and asking the same kinds of questions and are looking, perhaps, for Texas to follow suit. One of our problems is our adoption of heavily customized textbooks even within the district. Regards, Norma Jean ----------------------------------------------- NJ Brand Houston Community College-Northwest ADA Technician Technology and Instructional Computing Room RC13 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. Houston TX 77043 VM/Office: 713.718.5604 FAX: 713.718.5430 Email: normajean.brand@hccs.edu http://northwest.hccs.edu SkypeMe: nj.brand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Thu Jun 11 14:51:43 2009 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Cengage Learning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've had good luck with Cengage. Of course, I'm of a different mind set. I prefer the PDF files. For some reason, I really don't have much trouble opening the large PDF files they send in Acrobat Pro. In fact, I just had a book over 900 pages that my very old machine handled just fine. After I open the large PDF, I extract pages, breaking the large file into chapters, which doesn't really take much time either. My student workers and I refuse to work from Word files that the publishers provide. They are always such a mess that it is more effective and less frustrating to buy a book, cut, scan, and go from there. This is if we cannot get the PDF files. Actually, now that I have my brand spanking new DR9080C, I see us doing more slicing, dicing, scanning, etc. Cengage does allow you to request Word files. However, just because it is on their list of options, doesn't mean it is available for all titles. Just my 2 cents worth. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:31 AM To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Cengage Learning Does anyone have any better luck getting materials from Cengage than I am? They always send us a web link to download/save their stuff, and it is ALWAYS in one giant PDF that I can barely open, much less do anything else with! The latest is a World Geography book, 744 pages, in one freakishly HUGE file and the only thing I can do is export it and then try to break out the chapters, then edit, then record the audio. So far, my high-end computer is balking at doing this, it took more than 8 minutes for it to open the file in Adobe Professional to begin with. I don't hold out much hope that it will actually be able to do the job in the end, and machines don't get much faster than what I've got sitting on my desk. In these cases, it's quicker to buy, cut, and scan the book! How on earth are we supposed to get through to these publishers, anyway? I want a Word file. Or a Text file. Or an HTML file. ANYTHING but a PDF. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Thu Jun 11 14:56:02 2009 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Update on scanning with Read and Write Gold Mac In-Reply-To: <50786558.2298021244599318986.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu> References: <50786558.2298021244599318986.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <4A317D72.6020801@stanford.edu> Hello all, Just an update - I heard back from a representative that Read and Write Gold for Mac (ver. 3) will only recognize TIFF files for scanning/OCR. PDF documents are not an option. 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URL: From edward at ngtvoice.com Thu Jun 11 15:22:12 2009 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon on a netbook In-Reply-To: <4A30C3D6.F543.0078.1@gw.ncsu.edu> References: <4A30C3D6.F543.0078.1@gw.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: <007f01c9eae3$12aca570$3805f050$@com> Yes, the atom processor doesn't tend to have enough horsepower to make it work to a satisfactory level.ed. Edward S. Rosenthal President and CEO Next Generation Technologies, Inc. (NGT Inc.) 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 Lynnwood, Wa. 98036-6334 Ph: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 Fx: 425-778-5547 Skype: ed.rosenthal7 EM: edward@ngtvoice.com http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document may have been dictated with speech recognition software. Please disregard any remaining miscrecognitions. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ricky Lee Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:44 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Dragon on a netbook Has anyone attempted to run Dragon on a netbook? If so, what was the performance like? Thank you, Ricky Lee Assistant Director & Coordinator of Assistive Technology Disability Services Office NC State University Phone: 919-513-3556 TTY: 919-515-8830 ricky_lee@ncsu.edu http://www.ncsu.edu/dso -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nettiet at gmail.com Thu Jun 11 22:45:25 2009 From: nettiet at gmail.com (Nettie Fischer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon on a netbook In-Reply-To: <4A30C3D6.F543.0078.1@gw.ncsu.edu> References: <4A30C3D6.F543.0078.1@gw.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: Good evening, I have an Acer Aspire with 1 Gig RAM and 160 G harddrive.and I have installed DNS 10.1 I did it to test the computer and was pleasantly surprised. I used a Logitech USB headmic and the recognition was pretty darn good. I had not problems establishing a voice profile and when I dictated and used vice commands, the accuracy rate was very good. Since I did it as a test run, I cannot comment on long term use - just the trial runs with solid accuracy and document navigating with voice commands. Ed, I cannot comment on full time use of DNS on the netbook, only the test run that I gave it - I will give a little workout this summer to see if it serves as a functional option for more a rigorous user. I also installed Kurzweil, Clicker 4, BoardMaker and SD Pro, TextAloud, Read Naturally, Word 2007, Writing with Symbols--- and probably more little programs. I was amazed that the system not only installed all the software but actually was able to use the software as it was intended to be used. The one thing I noticed was that the installation process was slow - so, I didn't expect it to run as well as it did. -- I installed my HP Officeject Pro L7780 software and scanned papers into Kurzweil and was able to add text boxes, and added text too. I must say that I wanted to add another Gig of Ram on my Acer Aspire but when I looked at a video how to on YouTube, I decided against it. I did talk to Acer Support and they said the system can have an addtional 1 Gig Ram added - but for my needs, it looked like a little too much work. I did check to make sure that I purchased the second generation with the right/left mouse click pad located below the mouse pad (not on the sides) and the system is the 10" screen with the Lithium 6 ion battery. I have used the system to test the time usage and have had power for about 6 1/2 hours with no problems. Oh yes, I did already own a sony external DVD/RW drive and that is a need be since netbooks do not have an internal CD ROM drive. Hope this is helpful -- Oh yes, I purchased it at Costco and did have an issue with the wireless internet access but, I dont think it was the Acer system. I was out of town and the hotel had internet access that was popping on and off - when I tried to log on it woudl crash and the management was having trouble with access on their own computers. I think their crashing messed up the IP address; I'm not too techie in that area, but think that is/was the problem - there were 3 IP addresses - all with different last three digits - Acer said it was my server, my server said it should be working but could not explain the different IP addresses - the system log said that 'the computer has lost the lease to its IP address -- ..... etc., All I know was that I couldn't log on. Returned the system to Costco and got a quick exchange, just asked than why I was returning it. The good news is that the cosst had been reduced by $20 since I purchased it 6 weeks ago. Good tech support from acer, because the system was under the 90 day warranty, they suggested I send it in for them to make the necessary fixes. I felt better about just exchanging for a new system but, now I need to reinstall my software -- Pooh! Nettie Fischer On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Ricky Lee wrote: > Has anyone attempted to run Dragon on a netbook? If so, what was the > performance like? > Thank you, > > Ricky Lee > Assistant Director & Coordinator of Assistive Technology > Disability Services Office > NC State University > Phone: 919-513-3556 > TTY: 919-515-8830 > ricky_lee@ncsu.edu > http://www.ncsu.edu/dso > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -- Nettie T. Fischer, ATP Assistive Technology Practitioner Nettiet, ATP Consultants www.nettietatpconsultants.com [916] 222-3492 Office (916) 704-1456 Cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edward at ngtvoice.com Fri Jun 12 06:18:07 2009 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon on a netbook In-Reply-To: References: <4A30C3D6.F543.0078.1@gw.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: <001601c9eb60$3adc3e70$b094bb50$@com> Nettie, et al- I'm at a meeting with some Dragon users.I checked with my colleagues and of the two that are using netbooks one said he's sending it back because it won't run Dragon properly; which we've heard from several other users. The other said he's doing okay with Dragon on his. It turns out the one that's supporting DNS reasonably well is an Acer so we may be on to something.I'll speak with both of them later this morning and repost.ed. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Nettie Fischer Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:45 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon on a netbook Good evening, I have an Acer Aspire with 1 Gig RAM and 160 G harddrive.and I have installed DNS 10.1 I did it to test the computer and was pleasantly surprised. I used a Logitech USB headmic and the recognition was pretty darn good. I had not problems establishing a voice profile and when I dictated and used vice commands, the accuracy rate was very good. Since I did it as a test run, I cannot comment on long term use - just the trial runs with solid accuracy and document navigating with voice commands. Ed, I cannot comment on full time use of DNS on the netbook, only the test run that I gave it - I will give a little workout this summer to see if it serves as a functional option for more a rigorous user. I also installed Kurzweil, Clicker 4, BoardMaker and SD Pro, TextAloud, Read Naturally, Word 2007, Writing with Symbols--- and probably more little programs. I was amazed that the system not only installed all the software but actually was able to use the software as it was intended to be used. The one thing I noticed was that the installation process was slow - so, I didn't expect it to run as well as it did. -- I installed my HP Officeject Pro L7780 software and scanned papers into Kurzweil and was able to add text boxes, and added text too. I must say that I wanted to add another Gig of Ram on my Acer Aspire but when I looked at a video how to on YouTube, I decided against it. I did talk to Acer Support and they said the system can have an addtional 1 Gig Ram added - but for my needs, it looked like a little too much work. I did check to make sure that I purchased the second generation with the right/left mouse click pad located below the mouse pad (not on the sides) and the system is the 10" screen with the Lithium 6 ion battery. I have used the system to test the time usage and have had power for about 6 1/2 hours with no problems. Oh yes, I did already own a sony external DVD/RW drive and that is a need be since netbooks do not have an internal CD ROM drive. Hope this is helpful -- Oh yes, I purchased it at Costco and did have an issue with the wireless internet access but, I dont think it was the Acer system. I was out of town and the hotel had internet access that was popping on and off - when I tried to log on it woudl crash and the management was having trouble with access on their own computers. I think their crashing messed up the IP address; I'm not too techie in that area, but think that is/was the problem - there were 3 IP addresses - all with different last three digits - Acer said it was my server, my server said it should be working but could not explain the different IP addresses - the system log said that 'the computer has lost the lease to its IP address -- ..... etc., All I know was that I couldn't log on. Returned the system to Costco and got a quick exchange, just asked than why I was returning it. The good news is that the cosst had been reduced by $20 since I purchased it 6 weeks ago. Good tech support from acer, because the system was under the 90 day warranty, they suggested I send it in for them to make the necessary fixes. I felt better about just exchanging for a new system but, now I need to reinstall my software -- Pooh! Nettie Fischer On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Ricky Lee wrote: Has anyone attempted to run Dragon on a netbook? If so, what was the performance like? Thank you, Ricky Lee Assistant Director & Coordinator of Assistive Technology Disability Services Office NC State University Phone: 919-513-3556 TTY: 919-515-8830 ricky_lee@ncsu.edu http://www.ncsu.edu/dso _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -- Nettie T. Fischer, ATP Assistive Technology Practitioner Nettiet, ATP Consultants www.nettietatpconsultants.com [916] 222-3492 Office (916) 704-1456 Cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nettiet at gmail.com Fri Jun 12 08:20:34 2009 From: nettiet at gmail.com (Nettie Fischer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon on a netbook In-Reply-To: <001601c9eb60$3adc3e70$b094bb50$@com> References: <4A30C3D6.F543.0078.1@gw.ncsu.edu> <001601c9eb60$3adc3e70$b094bb50$@com> Message-ID: Ed - I think it is important to be sure that the Acer purchased is the one with the 1 Gig of Ram, 10" screen and Lithium 6 ion battery. The first generation is available for around $199 and the mouse pad has the L/R button on the side of the pad, not the bottom - also the screen is 8.9 ish inches and it only has 512 M Ram -- Not nearly as efficient and definately not worthy of a mere $30 dollar savings. Buyers must check the specs before they buy or they may be greatly disappointed. - I made that mistake but caught it before I even arrived home - quick refund and off to Costco for the Good Deal Nettie On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Ed. Rosenthal wrote: > Nettie, et al- I?m at a meeting with some Dragon users?I checked with my > colleagues and of the two that are using netbooks one said he?s sending it > back because it won?t run Dragon properly; which we?ve heard from several > other users. The other said he?s doing okay with Dragon on his. It turns > out the one that?s supporting DNS reasonably well is an Acer so we may be on > to something?I?ll speak with both of them later this morning and repost?ed. > > > > *From:* athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] *On > Behalf Of *Nettie Fischer > *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:45 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Dragon on a netbook > > > > Good evening, > > > > I have an Acer Aspire with 1 Gig RAM and 160 G harddrive.and I have > installed DNS 10.1 > > > > I did it to test the computer and was pleasantly surprised. I used a > Logitech USB headmic and the recognition was pretty darn good. I had not > problems establishing a voice profile and when I dictated and used vice > commands, the accuracy rate was very good. Since I did it as a test run, I > cannot comment on long term use - just the trial runs with solid accuracy > and document navigating with voice commands. Ed, I cannot comment on full > time use of DNS on the netbook, only the test run that I gave it - I will > give a little workout this summer to see if it serves as a functional option > for more a rigorous user. > > > > I also installed Kurzweil, Clicker 4, BoardMaker and SD Pro, TextAloud, > Read Naturally, Word 2007, Writing with Symbols--- and probably more little > programs. > > > > I was amazed that the system not only installed all the software but > actually was able to use the software as it was intended to be used. The > one thing I noticed was that the installation process was slow - so, I > didn't expect it to run as well as it did. -- > > > > I installed my HP Officeject Pro L7780 software and scanned papers into > Kurzweil and was able to add text boxes, and added text too. > > > > I must say that I wanted to add another Gig of Ram on my Acer Aspire but > when I looked at a video how to on YouTube, I decided against it. I did > talk to Acer Support and they said the system can have an addtional 1 Gig > Ram added - but for my needs, it looked like a little too much work. > > > > I did check to make sure that I purchased the second generation with the > right/left mouse click pad located below the mouse pad (not on the sides) > and the system is the 10" screen with the Lithium 6 ion battery. I have > used the system to test the time usage and have had power for about 6 1/2 > hours with no problems. Oh yes, I did already own a sony external DVD/RW > drive and that is a need be since netbooks do not have an internal CD ROM > drive. > > > > Hope this is helpful -- > > > > Oh yes, I purchased it at Costco and did have an issue with the wireless > internet access but, I dont think it was the Acer system. I was out of town > and the hotel had internet access that was popping on and off - when I > tried to log on it woudl crash and the management was having trouble with > access on their own computers. I think their crashing messed up the IP > address; I'm not too techie in that area, but think that is/was the problem > - there were 3 IP addresses - all with different last three digits - Acer > said it was my server, my server said it should be working but could not > explain the different IP addresses - the system log said that 'the computer > has lost the lease to its IP address -- ..... etc., All I know was that I > couldn't log on. Returned the system to Costco and got a quick exchange, > just asked than why I was returning it. The good news is that the cosst > had been reduced by $20 since I purchased it 6 weeks ago. Good tech > support from acer, because the system was under the 90 day warranty, they > suggested I send it in for them to make the necessary fixes. > > > > I felt better about just exchanging for a new system but, now I need to > reinstall my software -- Pooh! > > > > Nettie Fischer > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Ricky Lee wrote: > > Has anyone attempted to run Dragon on a netbook? If so, what was the > performance like? > > Thank you, > > > > Ricky Lee > Assistant Director & Coordinator of Assistive Technology > > Disability Services Office > NC State University > Phone: 919-513-3556 > TTY: 919-515-8830 > ricky_lee@ncsu.edu > http://www.ncsu.edu/dso > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > -- > Nettie T. Fischer, ATP > Assistive Technology Practitioner > Nettiet, ATP Consultants > www.nettietatpconsultants.com > [916] 222-3492 Office > (916) 704-1456 Cell > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -- Nettie T. Fischer, ATP Assistive Technology Practitioner Nettiet, ATP Consultants www.nettietatpconsultants.com [916] 222-3492 Office (916) 704-1456 Cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gilbetl at auburn.edu Fri Jun 12 11:55:23 2009 From: gilbetl at auburn.edu (Tina Gilbert) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: USF position openings References: <16ca2c390906121105q69ca44b3xb8493731c4d1a475@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A325E4B.6B02.0008.3@auburn.edu> Tina Gilbert, M.Ed Coordinator of Blind and Low Vision Accommodations and Etext Services Auburn University 1228 Haley Center Auburn, Al 36849 Phone: 334/844/2096 Fax: 334/844/2099 >>> Deborah McCarthy 6/12/2009 1:05 PM >>> Hi all: I know FL is a long way from some of you, but I am lucky enough to be able to fill two positions in my office despite a hiring freeze. So, if you know anyone who might be interested, send this along. Best, Deb McCarthy The University of South Florida, Tampa campus, invites applications for three vacancies in the Students with Disabilities Services Office. The examination and Classroom Support Specialist is a staff position responsible for the coordination of note taking and student examinations. *The Coordinator for Students with Disabilities* is an administrative position responsible for the coordination of intakes, documentation review and academic accommodations for students with disabilities. *The Coordinator of Assistive Technology* is and administrative position responsible for the production of electronic texts and the implementation of assistive technology within the SDS office. The Coordinator of Assistive Technology also assists with the intake process. Submit resume, cover letter and contact information for three references to SDS-Search@admin.usf.edu. See http://usfweb2.usf.edu/HR/Employment/index.html for complete position postings. (Note positions are listed under the titles ?Human Services Specialist,? and "Human Services Coordinator." Contact information: Deborah McCarthy, Director, 4202 E. Fowler Ave. SVC1133; Tampa, FL 33543. From kalmia at umflint.edu Fri Jun 12 13:32:42 2009 From: kalmia at umflint.edu (Marotta, Laurel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Computer log on without assistance Message-ID: <5ED286CFBD0861438617DFC923DA808D94105AF830@EX07MB1.umflint.edu> Hi everyone, We have a paraplegic staff member who has to have someone type his password for him to logon. I am looking for some way that he can log on to his computer without assistance. Once he's logged on, he uses a straw to type in an onscreen keyboard-but, at this time, the straw doesn't work UNTIL he's logged on. The program that works with the straw is called WiViK 3.2. We have been testing the onscreen keyboard that comes with Vista/XP and-when used at the logon screen-it seems buggy. For one thing, I can't make it come up automatically; another problem is that the keyboard keeps freezing up. I have e-mailed the vendor of WiViK, but have not heard back from them yet. I once saw a vicinity name tag [RFID] that logged the wearer into a windows computer if the name tag was within 5 feet of the computer, and logged the user out if they were outside that range. This seems like a better solution to me than the buggy onscreen keyboard. However, I can't seem to find anyone who makes this product. We are going to have a student starting in the fall who also has mobility challenges; we would like to have some solution before he begins school. Biometric logons are not a possibility. Has anyone run into this problem before and how did you solve it? Thank you for any assistance, Laurel Marotta Data Security Analyst Information Technology Services University of Michigan - Flint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edward at ngtvoice.com Fri Jun 12 13:34:24 2009 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Computer log on without assistance In-Reply-To: <5ED286CFBD0861438617DFC923DA808D94105AF830@EX07MB1.umflint.edu> References: <5ED286CFBD0861438617DFC923DA808D94105AF830@EX07MB1.umflint.edu> Message-ID: <005801c9eb9d$2ece3ab0$8c6ab010$@com> Can you change his Windows config to eliminate the log in screen or does that violate security?-ed. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Marotta, Laurel Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 1:33 PM To: 'athen@athenpro.org' Subject: [Athen] Computer log on without assistance Hi everyone, We have a paraplegic staff member who has to have someone type his password for him to logon. I am looking for some way that he can log on to his computer without assistance. Once he's logged on, he uses a straw to type in an onscreen keyboard-but, at this time, the straw doesn't work UNTIL he's logged on. The program that works with the straw is called WiViK 3.2. We have been testing the onscreen keyboard that comes with Vista/XP and-when used at the logon screen-it seems buggy. For one thing, I can't make it come up automatically; another problem is that the keyboard keeps freezing up. I have e-mailed the vendor of WiViK, but have not heard back from them yet. I once saw a vicinity name tag [RFID] that logged the wearer into a windows computer if the name tag was within 5 feet of the computer, and logged the user out if they were outside that range. This seems like a better solution to me than the buggy onscreen keyboard. However, I can't seem to find anyone who makes this product. We are going to have a student starting in the fall who also has mobility challenges; we would like to have some solution before he begins school. Biometric logons are not a possibility. Has anyone run into this problem before and how did you solve it? Thank you for any assistance, Laurel Marotta Data Security Analyst Information Technology Services University of Michigan - Flint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Fri Jun 12 13:36:56 2009 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Computer log on without assistance In-Reply-To: <005801c9eb9d$2ece3ab0$8c6ab010$@com> References: <5ED286CFBD0861438617DFC923DA808D94105AF830@EX07MB1.umflint.edu> <005801c9eb9d$2ece3ab0$8c6ab010$@com> Message-ID: <040501c9eb9d$88130330$98390990$@com> What about some kind of smart card login? From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ed. Rosenthal Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 4:34 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Computer log on without assistance Can you change his Windows config to eliminate the log in screen or does that violate security?-ed. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Marotta, Laurel Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 1:33 PM To: 'athen@athenpro.org' Subject: [Athen] Computer log on without assistance Hi everyone, We have a paraplegic staff member who has to have someone type his password for him to logon. I am looking for some way that he can log on to his computer without assistance. Once he's logged on, he uses a straw to type in an onscreen keyboard-but, at this time, the straw doesn't work UNTIL he's logged on. The program that works with the straw is called WiViK 3.2. We have been testing the onscreen keyboard that comes with Vista/XP and-when used at the logon screen-it seems buggy. For one thing, I can't make it come up automatically; another problem is that the keyboard keeps freezing up. I have e-mailed the vendor of WiViK, but have not heard back from them yet. I once saw a vicinity name tag [RFID] that logged the wearer into a windows computer if the name tag was within 5 feet of the computer, and logged the user out if they were outside that range. This seems like a better solution to me than the buggy onscreen keyboard. However, I can't seem to find anyone who makes this product. We are going to have a student starting in the fall who also has mobility challenges; we would like to have some solution before he begins school. Biometric logons are not a possibility. Has anyone run into this problem before and how did you solve it? Thank you for any assistance, Laurel Marotta Data Security Analyst Information Technology Services University of Michigan - Flint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kalmia at umflint.edu Fri Jun 12 13:58:28 2009 From: kalmia at umflint.edu (Marotta, Laurel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 41, Issue 20 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5ED286CFBD0861438617DFC923DA808D94105AF832@EX07MB1.umflint.edu> Thank you; I never expected such a fast response! 1. He really has to log in--otherwise he doesn't have access to some network things--his backup drive and printing, for instance. And, of course, security is a consideration. 2. A smart card would work as long as it didn't require him to physically install it--he doesn't have the capability--which is why I am interested in a vicinity card http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicinity_Card. A vicinity card "offer maximum read distance of 1-1.5 metres." (approx. 40-60 inches) But I can't seem to find any that give that kind of distance. He's in a wheelchair, which is why we need the 40-60 inches. Otherwise, he would be constantly logging in and out. Thanks again, ~Laurel -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 4:37 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 41, Issue 20 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Computer log on without assistance (Marotta, Laurel) 2. Re: Computer log on without assistance (Ed. Rosenthal) 3. Re: Computer log on without assistance (Pratik Patel) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:32:42 -0400 From: "Marotta, Laurel" Subject: [Athen] Computer log on without assistance To: "'athen@athenpro.org'" Message-ID: <5ED286CFBD0861438617DFC923DA808D94105AF830@EX07MB1.umflint.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi everyone, We have a paraplegic staff member who has to have someone type his password for him to logon. I am looking for some way that he can log on to his computer without assistance. Once he's logged on, he uses a straw to type in an onscreen keyboard-but, at this time, the straw doesn't work UNTIL he's logged on. The program that works with the straw is called WiViK 3.2. We have been testing the onscreen keyboard that comes with Vista/XP and-when used at the logon screen-it seems buggy. For one thing, I can't make it come up automatically; another problem is that the keyboard keeps freezing up. I have e-mailed the vendor of WiViK, but have not heard back from them yet. I once saw a vicinity name tag [RFID] that logged the wearer into a windows computer if the name tag was within 5 feet of the computer, and logged the user out if they were outside that range. This seems like a better solution to me than the buggy onscreen keyboard. However, I can't seem to find anyone who makes this product. We are going to have a student starting in the fall who also has mobility challenges; we would like to have some solution before he begins school. Biometric logons are not a possibility. Has anyone run into this problem before and how did you solve it? Thank you for any assistance, Laurel Marotta Data Security Analyst Information Technology Services University of Michigan - Flint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:34:24 -0700 From: "Ed. Rosenthal" Subject: Re: [Athen] Computer log on without assistance To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <005801c9eb9d$2ece3ab0$8c6ab010$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Can you change his Windows config to eliminate the log in screen or does that violate security?-ed. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Marotta, Laurel Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 1:33 PM To: 'athen@athenpro.org' Subject: [Athen] Computer log on without assistance Hi everyone, We have a paraplegic staff member who has to have someone type his password for him to logon. I am looking for some way that he can log on to his computer without assistance. Once he's logged on, he uses a straw to type in an onscreen keyboard-but, at this time, the straw doesn't work UNTIL he's logged on. The program that works with the straw is called WiViK 3.2. We have been testing the onscreen keyboard that comes with Vista/XP and-when used at the logon screen-it seems buggy. For one thing, I can't make it come up automatically; another problem is that the keyboard keeps freezing up. I have e-mailed the vendor of WiViK, but have not heard back from them yet. I once saw a vicinity name tag [RFID] that logged the wearer into a windows computer if the name tag was within 5 feet of the computer, and logged the user out if they were outside that range. This seems like a better solution to me than the buggy onscreen keyboard. However, I can't seem to find anyone who makes this product. We are going to have a student starting in the fall who also has mobility challenges; we would like to have some solution before he begins school. Biometric logons are not a possibility. Has anyone run into this problem before and how did you solve it? Thank you for any assistance, Laurel Marotta Data Security Analyst Information Technology Services University of Michigan - Flint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:36:56 -0400 From: "Pratik Patel" Subject: Re: [Athen] Computer log on without assistance To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <040501c9eb9d$88130330$98390990$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What about some kind of smart card login? From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ed. Rosenthal Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 4:34 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Computer log on without assistance Can you change his Windows config to eliminate the log in screen or does that violate security?-ed. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Marotta, Laurel Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 1:33 PM To: 'athen@athenpro.org' Subject: [Athen] Computer log on without assistance Hi everyone, We have a paraplegic staff member who has to have someone type his password for him to logon. I am looking for some way that he can log on to his computer without assistance. Once he's logged on, he uses a straw to type in an onscreen keyboard-but, at this time, the straw doesn't work UNTIL he's logged on. The program that works with the straw is called WiViK 3.2. We have been testing the onscreen keyboard that comes with Vista/XP and-when used at the logon screen-it seems buggy. For one thing, I can't make it come up automatically; another problem is that the keyboard keeps freezing up. I have e-mailed the vendor of WiViK, but have not heard back from them yet. I once saw a vicinity name tag [RFID] that logged the wearer into a windows computer if the name tag was within 5 feet of the computer, and logged the user out if they were outside that range. This seems like a better solution to me than the buggy onscreen keyboard. However, I can't seem to find anyone who makes this product. We are going to have a student starting in the fall who also has mobility challenges; we would like to have some solution before he begins school. Biometric logons are not a possibility. Has anyone run into this problem before and how did you solve it? Thank you for any assistance, Laurel Marotta Data Security Analyst Information Technology Services University of Michigan - Flint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 41, Issue 20 ************************************* From pratikp1 at gmail.com Fri Jun 12 15:28:20 2009 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] automated and semiautomated video transcription API Message-ID: <042a01c9ebad$18006b40$480141c0$@com> Hello all, See this link to find a transcription of a video by using the PhoneTag API. Some interesting services could be built by using this API. http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2009/06/visiting-building-43.html http://www.simulscribe.com/ Pratik From dann at digilifemedia.biz Sun Jun 14 07:25:12 2009 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] University of South Florida Open Positions In-Reply-To: <80824286.10551244989058001.JavaMail.root@mail.digilifemedia.biz> Message-ID: <1165846135.10571244989512622.JavaMail.root@mail.digilifemedia.biz> Good morning everyone, There are three positions now open at the University of South Florida. They can be found at the USF employment website: http://www.usf.edu/Employment/ 1) Human Services Practitioner/Examination and Classroom Support Specialist (Staff Position) 2) Human Services Coordinator/Coordinator for Students with Disabilities Generalist (Administrative) *3) Human Services Coordinator/Coordinator for Assistive Technology (Administrative) For those who may not have heard, I have been hired as the new Associate Director of the Disability Services Office at USF and will be starting in late July. My little e-text company (Digilife Media) will continue operations as my business partner has graduated from his Masters program and will be taking a greater hand in the day to day operations. If interested in any of these positions, feel free to drop me a line or call me directly. Though I have not begun the job yet I have an extremely favorable impression of the institution, my new colleagues, and the Tampa area. Cheers --- Dann 978-914-4601 (mobile) dann@digilifemedia.biz From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Sun Jun 14 13:47:15 2009 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] University of South Florida Open Positions In-Reply-To: <1165846135.10571244989512622.JavaMail.root@mail.digilifemedia.biz> References: <80824286.10551244989058001.JavaMail.root@mail.digilifemedia.biz>, <1165846135.10571244989512622.JavaMail.root@mail.digilifemedia.biz> Message-ID: Hey hey! Congratulations Dan! So, you think you'll be able to adjust to the Florida weather after so many years in the Boston area? Arean't you going to miss all that snow? ________________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz [dann@digilifemedia.biz] Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:25 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] University of South Florida Open Positions Good morning everyone, There are three positions now open at the University of South Florida. They can be found at the USF employment website: http://www.usf.edu/Employment/ 1) Human Services Practitioner/Examination and Classroom Support Specialist (Staff Position) 2) Human Services Coordinator/Coordinator for Students with Disabilities Generalist (Administrative) *3) Human Services Coordinator/Coordinator for Assistive Technology (Administrative) For those who may not have heard, I have been hired as the new Associate Director of the Disability Services Office at USF and will be starting in late July. My little e-text company (Digilife Media) will continue operations as my business partner has graduated from his Masters program and will be taking a greater hand in the day to day operations. If interested in any of these positions, feel free to drop me a line or call me directly. Though I have not begun the job yet I have an extremely favorable impression of the institution, my new colleagues, and the Tampa area. Cheers --- Dann 978-914-4601 (mobile) dann@digilifemedia.biz _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Mon Jun 15 10:29:56 2009 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 Message-ID: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Hello All: Over the years we've received feedback that the Accessing Higher Ground Conference should allow some time for round-table/networking discussion. This year, with the longer schedule, I think we should be able to fit this in. What do ATHEN members think of this? I had envisioned 5 or 6 one hour slots through the 2 and a half days of the main conference where there would be round-tables, perhaps facilitated by an volunteer on topics such as "alternate format production," "accessibility of campus web pages," etc. This "meetings" would run concurrent to the standard presentations. Any feedback, comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Howard From lundr at augsburg.edu Mon Jun 15 10:35:43 2009 From: lundr at augsburg.edu (Rebecca Lund) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 In-Reply-To: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> References: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <4A36401E.03A1.009B.0@augsburg.edu> I think this would be a wonderful addition, as there are specific topics that we all face and which we could share our approaches in a smaller format. Rebecca Rebecca Lund Accommodations Specialist CLASS Department (612) 330-1353 >>> Howard Kramer 6/15/2009 12:29 PM >>> Hello All: Over the years we've received feedback that the Accessing Higher Ground Conference should allow some time for round-table/networking discussion. This year, with the longer schedule, I think we should be able to fit this in. What do ATHEN members think of this? I had envisioned 5 or 6 one hour slots through the 2 and a half days of the main conference where there would be round-tables, perhaps facilitated by an volunteer on topics such as "alternate format production," "accessibility of campus web pages," etc. This "meetings" would run concurrent to the standard presentations. Any feedback, comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Howard _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From tft at u.washington.edu Mon Jun 15 10:39:01 2009 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 In-Reply-To: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> References: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <006a01c9ede0$2c2fd800$848f8800$@washington.edu> Hi Howard, Would there be an opportunity to schedule these round tables so they're not concurrent with standard presentations? I know you have a pretty tight schedule during luncheons, but maybe birds of a feather could sit together and talk shop before the regularly scheduled programming begins? I'm just thinking since AHG is always packed with high quality, informative sessions, a lot of folks (myself included) might choose not to skip a presentation session. Terry Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Howard Kramer > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:30 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 > > Hello All: > > Over the years we've received feedback that the Accessing Higher Ground > Conference should allow some time for round-table/networking > discussion. > > This year, with the longer schedule, I think we should be able to fit > this in. What do ATHEN members think of this? I had envisioned 5 or 6 > one hour slots through the 2 and a half days of the main conference > where there would be round-tables, perhaps facilitated by an volunteer > on topics such as "alternate format production," "accessibility of > campus web pages," etc. This "meetings" would run concurrent to the > standard presentations. > > Any feedback, comments would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Howard > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From hkramer.atsol at gmail.com Mon Jun 15 11:07:42 2009 From: hkramer.atsol at gmail.com (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 In-Reply-To: <006a01c9ede0$2c2fd800$848f8800$@washington.edu> References: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> <006a01c9ede0$2c2fd800$848f8800$@washington.edu> Message-ID: Hi Terry, That's something I debated. I see some problems logistically. If you wanted a dedicated hour slot for these round-tables - i.e. with no standard sessions running at the same time - it would mean blocking out a whole swath of presentation slots out of the schedule. If we did it this way, I don't think we could do this more than once because it would use up the slots for 6 presentations at a time. This would also have the limitation that you could only attend a round-table on one topic. But, at the same time, I know what you're saying. People will usually give priority to presentations - that's why we have dedicated exhibitor time. Otherwise, no one visits the booths. Another thought is to have a couple of time slots where there are only 2 or three presenations going against 3 or 4 round-tables. More likelihood that there might not be a "must see" presentation at that time while at the same time it gives folks an alternative if they don't want to do a round-table format. Anyway, I'm open to your suggestion, let's see what other people think. Thanks, Howard On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Terrill Thompson wrote: > Hi Howard, > > Would there be an opportunity to schedule these round tables so they're not > concurrent with standard presentations? I know you have a pretty tight > schedule during luncheons, but maybe birds of a feather could sit together > and talk shop before the regularly scheduled programming begins? I'm just > thinking since AHG is always packed with high quality, informative > sessions, > a lot of folks (myself included) might choose not to skip a presentation > session. > > Terry > > Terrill Thompson > Technology Accessibility Specialist > DO-IT, Accessible Technology > UW Technology Services > University of Washington > tft@u.washington.edu > 206/221-4168 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > > Behalf Of Howard Kramer > > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:30 AM > > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 > > > > Hello All: > > > > Over the years we've received feedback that the Accessing Higher Ground > > Conference should allow some time for round-table/networking > > discussion. > > > > This year, with the longer schedule, I think we should be able to fit > > this in. What do ATHEN members think of this? I had envisioned 5 or 6 > > one hour slots through the 2 and a half days of the main conference > > where there would be round-tables, perhaps facilitated by an volunteer > > on topics such as "alternate format production," "accessibility of > > campus web pages," etc. This "meetings" would run concurrent to the > > standard presentations. > > > > Any feedback, comments would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Howard > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jongund at illinois.edu Mon Jun 15 14:48:33 2009 From: jongund at illinois.edu (Jon Gunderson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> <006a01c9ede0$2c2fd800$848f8800$@washington.edu> Message-ID: <20090615164833.BTO36556@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu> What about during the lunch times? Jon ---- Original message ---- >Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:07:42 -0600 >From: Howard Kramer >Subject: Re: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 >To: tft@u.washington.edu, Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Hi Terry, > > That's something I debated. I see some problems logistically. If you wanted a dedicated > hour slot for these round-tables - i.e. with no standard sessions running at the same time > -? it would mean blocking out a whole swath of presentation slots out of the schedule. If > we did it this way, I don't think we could do this more than once because it would use up > the slots for 6 presentations at a time. This would also have the limitation that you > could only attend a round-table on one topic. > > But, at the same time, I know what you're saying. People will usually give priority to > presentations - that's why we have dedicated exhibitor time. Otherwise, no one visits the > booths. > > Another thought is to have a couple of time slots where there are only 2 or three > presenations going against 3 or 4 round-tables. More likelihood that there might not be a > "must see" presentation at that time while at the same time it gives folks an alternative > if they don't want to do a round-table format. > > Anyway, I'm open to your suggestion, let's see what other people think. > > Thanks, > Howard > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Terrill Thompson wrote: > > Hi Howard, > > Would there be an opportunity to schedule these round tables so they're not > concurrent with standard presentations? I know you have a pretty tight > schedule during luncheons, but maybe birds of a feather could sit together > and talk shop before the regularly scheduled programming begins? I'm just > thinking since AHG is always packed with high quality, informative sessions, > a lot of folks (myself included) might choose not to skip a presentation > session. > > Terry > Terrill Thompson > Technology Accessibility Specialist > DO-IT, Accessible Technology > UW Technology Services > University of Washington > tft@u.washington.edu > 206/221-4168 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > > Behalf Of Howard Kramer > > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:30 AM > > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 > > > > Hello All: > > > > Over the years we've received feedback that the Accessing Higher Ground > > Conference should allow some time for round-table/networking > > discussion. > > > > This year, with the longer schedule, I think we should be able to fit > > this in. What do ATHEN members think of this? I had envisioned 5 or 6 > > one hour slots through the 2 and a half days of the main conference > > where there would be round-tables, perhaps facilitated by an volunteer > > on topics such as "alternate format production," "accessibility of > > campus web pages," etc. This "meetings" would run concurrent to the > > standard presentations. > > > > Any feedback, comments would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Howard > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -- > Howard Kramer > AHG Conference Coordinator > Access Specialist > 303-492-8672 > fax: 492-5601 >________________ >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility Disability Resources and Educational Services Rehabilitation Education Center Room 86 1207 S. 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If you have received this communication in error, please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. Thank you. From gdietrich at htctu.net Mon Jun 15 17:32:37 2009 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu><006a01c9ede0$2c2fd800$848f8800$@washington.edu> Message-ID: <12D5C87CDF9A447FB3BE958A81742B54@htctu.fhda.edu> Well, why not hold the "networking session" in the vendor area. I believe you did something similar one year, and it seemed like quite a few people showed up. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The HTCTU provides leadership, training, and support to the California Community Colleges in using technology to promote the success of students with disabilities. _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 11:08 AM To: tft@u.washington.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 Hi Terry, That's something I debated. I see some problems logistically. If you wanted a dedicated hour slot for these round-tables - i.e. with no standard sessions running at the same time - it would mean blocking out a whole swath of presentation slots out of the schedule. If we did it this way, I don't think we could do this more than once because it would use up the slots for 6 presentations at a time. This would also have the limitation that you could only attend a round-table on one topic. But, at the same time, I know what you're saying. People will usually give priority to presentations - that's why we have dedicated exhibitor time. Otherwise, no one visits the booths. Another thought is to have a couple of time slots where there are only 2 or three presenations going against 3 or 4 round-tables. More likelihood that there might not be a "must see" presentation at that time while at the same time it gives folks an alternative if they don't want to do a round-table format. Anyway, I'm open to your suggestion, let's see what other people think. Thanks, Howard On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Terrill Thompson wrote: Hi Howard, Would there be an opportunity to schedule these round tables so they're not concurrent with standard presentations? I know you have a pretty tight schedule during luncheons, but maybe birds of a feather could sit together and talk shop before the regularly scheduled programming begins? I'm just thinking since AHG is always packed with high quality, informative sessions, a lot of folks (myself included) might choose not to skip a presentation session. Terry Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Howard Kramer > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:30 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 > > Hello All: > > Over the years we've received feedback that the Accessing Higher Ground > Conference should allow some time for round-table/networking > discussion. > > This year, with the longer schedule, I think we should be able to fit > this in. What do ATHEN members think of this? I had envisioned 5 or 6 > one hour slots through the 2 and a half days of the main conference > where there would be round-tables, perhaps facilitated by an volunteer > on topics such as "alternate format production," "accessibility of > campus web pages," etc. This "meetings" would run concurrent to the > standard presentations. > > Any feedback, comments would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Howard > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Thanks re: Cengage Publishing Message-ID: Thanks for all the great tips/information for Cengage. There were some things I wasn't trying that may bring me the solution I need. I prefer Word files in most cases, messed up or not, as too many PDF's are too big or locked too tightly to be of any use other than to run through OCR. I am a huge fan of "whatever works for you" type of thinking, and it has been enlightening to see so many perspectives out there and things I can try. I am always looking for new ways to do the things I've been doing. Thanks again, everyone. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed Jun 17 06:09:55 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] University of South Florida Open Positions In-Reply-To: <1165846135.10571244989512622.JavaMail.root@mail.digilifemedia.biz> References: <80824286.10551244989058001.JavaMail.root@mail.digilifemedia.biz> <1165846135.10571244989512622.JavaMail.root@mail.digilifemedia.biz> Message-ID: Wow, Florida?? I expect to see a darker Dann in Colorado this year. And one who'll need a perpetual cable-knit sweater. LOL Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed Jun 17 06:31:36 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 In-Reply-To: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> References: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: I am all for doing this, but they should be separate from presentations so people don't have to choose. And if the conference can be extended by a day on the front end, then I can get two weeks in Colorado straight, as the Educause Conference I need to attend this year is in Boulder, as well, the week before AHG. Yes, that's quite selfish on my part, but I'd rather not fly home in between, instead use my weekend to learn to ski or something else equally useful. (No snarky comments from the peanut gallery, if you please!) Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Wed Jun 17 07:34:49 2009 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Thanks re: Cengage Publishing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Susan, I know what you mean. I always say I'm not proud, I'll steal a good idea from anybody. If something will make my life better, then I'll certainly use it. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kelmer, Susan M. Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:03 AM To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Thanks re: Cengage Publishing Thanks for all the great tips/information for Cengage. There were some things I wasn't trying that may bring me the solution I need. I prefer Word files in most cases, messed up or not, as too many PDF's are too big or locked too tightly to be of any use other than to run through OCR. I am a huge fan of "whatever works for you" type of thinking, and it has been enlightening to see so many perspectives out there and things I can try. I am always looking for new ways to do the things I've been doing. Thanks again, everyone. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christopher.doucet at gmail.com Wed Jun 17 11:49:21 2009 From: christopher.doucet at gmail.com (Christopher Doucet) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] iPhone OS 3.0 Message-ID: <4A393AB1.9020104@gmail.com> Apple has released the new OS, but with several huge drawbacks... VoiceOver is not available on the iPod Touch or iPhone. One must purchase the iPhone 3Gs in order to use the screenreader. Voice Control is also exclusive to the 3Gs (which Apple made clear at last week's conference). Other exclusive features include the ability to record and edit video. Be forewarned! If this is the only reason that you are interested in purchasing the updated OS for your device, wait until enough of us complain and Apple enables these features. Chris Doucet Academic Computing Analyst Teachers College at Columbia University From norm.coombs at gmail.com Wed Jun 17 11:54:14 2009 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] EASI Webinar: Accessible Tables in Word and Excel Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20090617115220.02376258@pop.gmail.com> EASI Webinar: Accessible Tables in Word and Excel June 24 at 2 PM Eastern Presenter: Dan Clark, Freedom Scientific Training Department and hosted by Norm Coombs from EASI This Webinar will be 90 minutes long and involve you in hands-on activities. Wednesday June 24 from 2 till 3:30 Eastern. Central time 1 till 2:30 Mountain noon till 1:30 Pacific 11 AM till 12:30 (Note this is the first Webinar in a 2-part series. Part 2 will be on August 26 and will cover Accessible Tables in PDF and HTML) Description: People who use tables in Microsoft Word or ranges in Microsoft Excel on a regular basis know how quickly one can get lost in the maze of rows and columns without the use of row and column titles. Learn to use the bookmark feature in Word and the naming function in Excel to create built-in column and row header names for a cell or a range of cells. JAWS looks for certain specific names to identify which cells contain row and column titles. If the titles are defined in this fashion, the information is stored right in the document rather than in a JAWS file and can be used to speak the title information to anyone using JAWS 6.1 or later. Furthermore, anyone can build these row and column names into a table or range without even having JAWS installed. Learn some easily applied principles that increase the accessibility of documents you create. In addition, learn how users can more easily access information by knowing helpful features in their adaptive technology. NOTE: This webinar will be approximately one and a half hours in length (90 minutes) to allow time for interactive practice. Participants will be given the opportunity to switch away from the presentation room (while still listening to the instructor) to use sample practice documents that will be provided in advance. The practice documents open in Microsoft Word and in Microsoft Excel. Read more and register online for this free Webinar from: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm Norm Coombs CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information From rmhaven at stanford.edu Wed Jun 17 12:47:15 2009 From: rmhaven at stanford.edu (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] iPhone OS 3.0 In-Reply-To: <4A393AB1.9020104@gmail.com> Message-ID: <841920602.3404611245268035276.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu> If I'm not mistaken, it's not a matter of Apple enabling these features on the earlier iPhone or iPod Touch via software -- it's that the features require the internal hardware of the newer iPhone to work. While the iPhone 3G and 3GS look identical on the outside, the internal workings are very different. In essence, Apple enables those features by providing a new piece of hardware -- the 3GS -- capable of running them. And if I am mistaken...please correct me. - Shelley Haven ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Doucet" To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:49:21 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Athen] iPhone OS 3.0 Apple has released the new OS, but with several huge drawbacks... VoiceOver is not available on the iPod Touch or iPhone. One must purchase the iPhone 3Gs in order to use the screenreader. Voice Control is also exclusive to the 3Gs (which Apple made clear at last week's conference). Other exclusive features include the ability to record and edit video. Be forewarned! If this is the only reason that you are interested in purchasing the updated OS for your device, wait until enough of us complain and Apple enables these features. Chris Doucet Academic Computing Analyst Teachers College at Columbia University _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Jacqueline.Dutot at capella.edu Wed Jun 17 13:54:49 2009 From: Jacqueline.Dutot at capella.edu (Dutot, Jacqueline) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Favorite Text to Audio Converter Message-ID: <74E2C9162804494BB52A6CC1820DCEBC0C6C720FD0@MSPMAILCLU1.int.capella.lan> Hello ATHENS folks, I was wondering if anyone has a favorite text to audio converter they really like. I would like to use it to create audio files of textbook chapters for learners, so I'd like it to convert both Word and PDF files and be reasonably priced. The only one I've ever used is SpokenText.net and I'm curious what others use and like. Thanks for being a valuable source of AT knowledge for this rookie. Thanks, Jackie Jackie Dutot, M.A. Disability Services Associate-Assistive Technology Toll Free: 1-888-CAPELLA, x5926 Fax: 612-977-5060 E-mail: DisabilityServices@capella.edu Capella University 225 South 6th Street, 9th Floor Minneapolis, MN 55402 www.capella.edu *******Internet Email Confidentiality Footer********* Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated on this message, (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person) you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to official business shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would like to use it to create audio files of textbook > chapters for learners, so I'd like it to convert both Word and PDF files and > be reasonably priced. The only one I've ever used is SpokenText.net and I'm > curious what others use and like. Thanks for being a valuable source of AT > knowledge for this rookie. > > Thanks, > Jackie > > > *Jackie Dutot, M.A.* > *Disability Services Associate-Assistive Technology* > > *Toll Free:* 1-888-CAPELLA, x5926 > *Fax:* 612-977-5060 > *E-mail:* *DisabilityServices@capella.edu* > > *Capella University* > 225 South 6th Street, 9th Floor > Minneapolis, MN 55402 > > *www.capella.edu* > > *******Internet Email Confidentiality Footer********* > Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If > you are not the addressee indicated on this message, (or responsible for > delivery of the message to such person) you may not copy or deliver this > message to anyone. 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Lorna Saiz Accessible Technology Coordinator Services for Students with Disabilities California State University, Fresno University Center Room 5 M/S ML125 Ph: 559.278.2811 - Fax: 559.278.4214 lornas@csufresno.edu http://www.csufresno.edu/ssd ----- Original Message ----- From: Nettie Fischer Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:14 pm Subject: Re: [Athen] Favorite Text to Audio Converter To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > HI Jackie, > > I have used TextAloud to convert pdf files to wav files for audio > output. I > also purchased 2 AT & T voices that load into TextAloud. The > transfer if > easy and, I tested it on a full book that was in pdf format. > > I have used Natural Reader and, the main reason I select TextAloud > was the > dollar factor ( I think it was $59 while natural reader is $99. > > Nettie > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Dutot, Jacqueline < > Jacqueline.Dutot@capella.edu> wrote: > > > Hello ATHENS folks, > > > > I was wondering if anyone has a favorite text to audio converter > they> really like. I would like to use it to create audio files > of textbook > > chapters for learners, so I'd like it to convert both Word and > PDF files and > > be reasonably priced. The only one I've ever used is > SpokenText.net and I'm > > curious what others use and like. Thanks for being a valuable > source of AT > > knowledge for this rookie. > > > > Thanks, > > Jackie > > > > > > *Jackie Dutot, M.A.* > > *Disability Services Associate-Assistive Technology* > > > > *Toll Free:* 1-888-CAPELLA, x5926 > > *Fax:* 612-977-5060 > > *E-mail:* > *DisabilityServices@capella.edu*> > > *Capella University* > > 225 South 6th Street, 9th Floor > > Minneapolis, MN 55402 > > > > *www.capella.edu* > > > > *******Internet Email Confidentiality Footer********* > > Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this > message. If > > you are not the addressee indicated on this message, (or > responsible for > > delivery of the message to such person) you may not copy or > deliver this > > message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message > and kindly > > notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if > you or your > > employer does not consent to Internet email for messages of this > kind.> Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message > that do not > > relate to official business shall be understood as neither given nor > > endorsed by it. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Athen mailing list > > Athen@athenpro.org > > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > > -- > Nettie T. Fischer, ATP > Assistive Technology Practitioner > Nettiet, ATP Consultants > www.nettietatpconsultants.com > [916] 222-3492 Office > (916) 704-1456 Cell > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Crabb.15 at osu.edu Thu Jun 18 07:04:20 2009 From: Crabb.15 at osu.edu (Crabb, Nolan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Favorite Text to Audio Converter In-Reply-To: <74E2C9162804494BB52A6CC1820DCEBC0C6C720FD0@MSPMAILCLU1.int.capella.lan> References: <74E2C9162804494BB52A6CC1820DCEBC0C6C720FD0@MSPMAILCLU1.int.capella.lan> Message-ID: <200911DB087DA748846372E8038E0AE202920B4D@Amazon.admin.ohio-state.edu> If you already have a copy of Kurzweil 1000, why not give that a shot? I've used it to convert PDF, braille files, and of course scanned print material into MP3 audio using the Neospeech voices-Kate and Paul. I very much enjoy converting texts to audio and listening to the audio in a Victor Stream, for example. I'll drop in level one bookmarks at every chapter and create separate audio files for each chapter. Of course, you can do that on a per-page basis if you need to get that granular. Indeed, you can bookmark that book any way you want, and then create separate audio files based on your bookmarking plan. It might be impractical to do, but you could even bookmark each paragraph. Normally, for the kind of personal reading I'm doing, I'm content to bookmark chapters. The Neospeech Kate voice is a personal favorite of mine, and I choose the high-quality audio setting to do my conversion. It comes out sounding fine for voice work. The personal philosophical question you have to answer is, do you speed Kate up at the Kurzweil end or just let her run normally and then assume the listener will adjust the speed on his or her playback device? I run these at pretty rapid rates through Kurzweil 1000, then just run my Stream at the normal speed. The advantage to that is slightly smaller files. Now I must confess I've never tried this with anything mega-complicated like some kind of hard-core math or engineering book. But doing this on reasonably straightforward texts works really quite well, and there really are no audio artifacts or weird sounds that happen as a result of the conversion. It's all a very subjective thing, but I enjoy the Neospeech voices more than the AT&T ones-less audio fatigue for me, which means the ability to listen longer and retain my interest in what I'm hearing better. Regards, Nolan Nolan Crabb Director of Assistive Technology The Ohio State University 2054 Drake Center, 1849 Cannon Dr., Columbus, OH 43210 Ph. (614) 735-8688 E-mail: crabb.15@osu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hadi at illinois.edu Thu Jun 18 07:15:18 2009 From: hadi at illinois.edu (Hadi Rangin) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 References: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: Hi Howard, How about moving the keynote talk to the beginning of the main program right after the breakfast and setting up bird-of-a-feather sessions during lunch time on the 1st day of the conference? This is a typical format at many conferences I know. At this time we don't have any sub-groups or user groups but we can easily come up with some interest areas and find volunteers to lead those bird-of-a-feather sessions. We could use the second lunch time as the entertainment/award/misc program. Hadi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Kramer" To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:29 PM Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 > Hello All: > > Over the years we've received feedback that the Accessing Higher Ground > Conference should allow some time for round-table/networking discussion. > > This year, with the longer schedule, I think we should be able to fit this > in. What do ATHEN members think of this? I had envisioned 5 or 6 one hour > slots through the 2 and a half days of the main conference where there > would be round-tables, perhaps facilitated by an volunteer on topics such > as "alternate format production," "accessibility of campus web pages," > etc. This "meetings" would run concurrent to the standard presentations. > > Any feedback, comments would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Howard > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From christopher.doucet at gmail.com Thu Jun 18 07:23:46 2009 From: christopher.doucet at gmail.com (christopher.doucet@gmail.com) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Favorite Text to Audio Converter Message-ID: <4a3a4df2.0702d00a.6c48.2487@mx.google.com> if you have a Mac, like the Books2Burn open source tool. It works best with .txt files (the only downside, but is therefore compatible with .pdf if you use "save as accessible text"). It can chapterize by number of characters or by a string of ascii characters, and uses the superior Leopard voice "Alex". best, Chris Chris Doucet Academic Computing Analyst Teachers College at Columbia University --- Original Message --- From:"Crabb, Nolan" Sent:Thu 6/18/09 10:04 am To:"Access Technology Higher Education Network" Subj:Re: [Athen] Favorite Text to Audio Converter If you already have a copy of Kurzweil 1000, why not give that a shot? I've used it to convert PDF, braille files, and of course scanned print material into MP3 audio using the Neospeech voices-Kate and Paul. I very much enjoy converting texts to audio and listening to the audio in a Victor Stream, for example. I'll drop in level one bookmarks at every chapter and create separate audio files for each chapter. Of course, you can do that on a per-page basis if you need to get that granular. Indeed, you can bookmark that book any way you want, and then create separate audio files based on your bookmarking plan. It might be impractical to do, but you could even bookmark each paragraph. Normally, for the kind of personal reading I'm doing, I'm content to bookmark chapters. The Neospeech Kate voice is a personal favorite of mine, and I choose the high-quality audio setting to do my conversion. It comes out sounding fine for voice work. The personal philosophical question you have to answer is, do you speed Kate up at the Kurzweil end or just let her run normally and then assume the listener will adjust the speed on his or her playback device? I run these at pretty rapid rates through Kurzweil 1000, then just run my Stream at the normal speed. The advantage to that is slightly smaller files. Now I must confess I've never tried this with anything mega-complicated like some kind of hard-core math or engineering book. But doing this on reasonably straightforward texts works really quite well, and there really are no audio artifacts or weird sounds that happen as a result of the conversion. It's all a very subjective thing, but I enjoy the Neospeech voices more than the AT&T ones-less audio fatigue for me, which means the ability to listen longer and retain my interest in what I'm hearing better. Regards, Nolan Nolan Crabb Director of Assistive Technology The Ohio State University 2054 Drake Center, 1849 Cannon Dr., Columbus, OH 43210 Ph. (614) 735-8688 E-mail: crabb.15@osu.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From sozi1 at mscd.edu Thu Jun 18 08:46:09 2009 From: sozi1 at mscd.edu (sozi1@mscd.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 41, Issue 26 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jackie, I personally use Textaloud and recommend it ot our students for Dollar reasons. It is user friendly and well enough for windows based mp3 players. If you have apple and runing leopard it 's bulit in text to speech function is working pretty well and syncing nice on apple products. thanks. Selim Ozi Adaptive Technology support. Metropolitan state college of Denver Access center. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ----- Original Message ----- From: athen-request@athenpro.org Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009 8:05 am Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 41, Issue 26 To: athen@athenpro.org > Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: iPhone OS 3.0 (Shelley Haven) > 2. Favorite Text to Audio Converter (Dutot, Jacqueline) > 3. Re: Favorite Text to Audio Converter (Nettie Fischer) > 4. Re: Favorite Text to Audio Converter (Lorna Saiz) > 5. Re: Favorite Text to Audio Converter (Crabb, Nolan) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:47:15 -0700 (PDT) > From: Shelley Haven > Subject: Re: [Athen] iPhone OS 3.0 > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Message-ID: > <841920602.3404611245268035276.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > If I'm not mistaken, it's not a matter of Apple enabling these > features on the earlier iPhone or iPod Touch via software -- it's > that the features require the internal hardware of the newer > iPhone to work. While the iPhone 3G and 3GS look identical on the > outside, the internal workings are very different. In essence, > Apple enables those features by providing a new piece of hardware - > - the 3GS -- capable of running them. > > And if I am mistaken...please correct me. > > - Shelley Haven > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Doucet" > To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:49:21 AM GMT > -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [Athen] iPhone OS 3.0 > > Apple has released the new OS, but with several huge drawbacks... > > VoiceOver is not available on the iPod Touch or iPhone. One must > purchase the iPhone 3Gs in order to use the screenreader. Voice > Control > is also exclusive to the 3Gs (which Apple made clear at last > week's > conference). > Other exclusive features include the ability to record and edit > video. > > Be forewarned! If this is the only reason that you are interested > in > purchasing the updated OS for your device, wait until enough of us > complain and Apple enables these features. > > Chris Doucet > Academic Computing Analyst > Teachers College at Columbia University > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:54:49 -0500 > From: "Dutot, Jacqueline" > Subject: [Athen] Favorite Text to Audio Converter > To: "athen@athenpro.org" > Message-ID: > <74E2C9162804494BB52A6CC1820DCEBC0C6C720FD0@MSPMAILCLU1.int.capella.lan> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello ATHENS folks, > > I was wondering if anyone has a favorite text to audio converter > they really like. I would like to use it to create audio files of > textbook chapters for learners, so I'd like it to convert both > Word and PDF files and be reasonably priced. The only one I've > ever used is SpokenText.net and I'm curious what others use and > like. Thanks for being a valuable source of AT knowledge for this > rookie. > > Thanks, > Jackie > > > Jackie Dutot, M.A. > Disability Services Associate-Assistive Technology > > Toll Free: 1-888-CAPELLA, x5926 > Fax: 612-977-5060 > E-mail: > DisabilityServices@capella.edu > Capella University > 225 South 6th Street, 9th Floor > Minneapolis, MN 55402 > > www.capella.edu > > > *******Internet Email Confidentiality Footer********* > Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this > message. If you are not the addressee indicated on this message, > (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person) you > may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. 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The > transfer if > easy and, I tested it on a full book that was in pdf format. > > I have used Natural Reader and, the main reason I select TextAloud > was the > dollar factor ( I think it was $59 while natural reader is $99. > > Nettie > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Dutot, Jacqueline < > Jacqueline.Dutot@capella.edu> wrote: > > > Hello ATHENS folks, > > > > I was wondering if anyone has a favorite text to audio converter > they> really like. I would like to use it to create audio files > of textbook > > chapters for learners, so I'd like it to convert both Word and > PDF files and > > be reasonably priced. The only one I've ever used is > SpokenText.net and I'm > > curious what others use and like. Thanks for being a valuable > source of AT > > knowledge for this rookie. > > > > Thanks, > > Jackie > > > > > > *Jackie Dutot, M.A.* > > *Disability Services Associate-Assistive Technology* > > > > *Toll Free:* 1-888-CAPELLA, x5926 > > *Fax:* 612-977-5060 > > *E-mail:* > *DisabilityServices@capella.edu*> > > *Capella University* > > 225 South 6th Street, 9th Floor > > Minneapolis, MN 55402 > > > > *www.capella.edu* > > > > *******Internet Email Confidentiality Footer********* > > Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this > message. If > > you are not the addressee indicated on this message, (or > responsible for > > delivery of the message to such person) you may not copy or > deliver this > > message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message > and kindly > > notify the sender by reply email. 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Fischer, ATP > Assistive Technology Practitioner > Nettiet, ATP Consultants > www.nettietatpconsultants.com > [916] 222-3492 Office > (916) 704-1456 Cell > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:46:32 -0700 > From: Lorna Saiz > Subject: Re: [Athen] Favorite Text to Audio Converter > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Jackie, > We've used TextAloud, Natural Reader, ReadPlease, and VLC media > player. TextAloud using AT&T voices > are favorite program, and of course Natural Reader Enterprise > works just as well. Hope this helps. > > Lorna Saiz > Accessible Technology Coordinator > Services for Students with Disabilities > California State University, Fresno > University Center Room 5 M/S ML125 > Ph: 559.278.2811 - Fax: 559.278.4214 > lornas@csufresno.edu > http://www.csufresno.edu/ssd > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nettie Fischer > Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:14 pm > Subject: Re: [Athen] Favorite Text to Audio Converter > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > > > HI Jackie, > > > > I have used TextAloud to convert pdf files to wav files for > audio > > output. I > > also purchased 2 AT & T voices that load into TextAloud. The > > transfer if > > easy and, I tested it on a full book that was in pdf format. > > > > I have used Natural Reader and, the main reason I select > TextAloud > > was the > > dollar factor ( I think it was $59 while natural reader is $99. > > > > Nettie > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Dutot, Jacqueline < > > Jacqueline.Dutot@capella.edu> wrote: > > > > > Hello ATHENS folks, > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone has a favorite text to audio > converter > > they> really like. I would like to use it to create audio files > > of textbook > > > chapters for learners, so I'd like it to convert both Word and > > PDF files and > > > be reasonably priced. The only one I've ever used is > > SpokenText.net and I'm > > > curious what others use and like. Thanks for being a valuable > > source of AT > > > knowledge for this rookie. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Jackie > > > > > > > > > *Jackie Dutot, M.A.* > > > *Disability Services Associate-Assistive Technology* > > > > > > *Toll Free:* 1-888-CAPELLA, x5926 > > > *Fax:* 612-977-5060 > > > *E-mail:* > > > *DisabilityServices@capella.edu*> > > > *Capella University* > > > 225 South 6th Street, 9th Floor > > > Minneapolis, MN 55402 > > > > > > *www.capella.edu* > > > > > > *******Internet Email Confidentiality Footer********* > > > Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this > > message. If > > > you are not the addressee indicated on this message, (or > > responsible for > > > delivery of the message to such person) you may not copy or > > deliver this > > > message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this > message > > and kindly > > > notify the sender by reply email. 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Fischer, ATP > > Assistive Technology Practitioner > > Nettiet, ATP Consultants > > www.nettietatpconsultants.com > > [916] 222-3492 Office > > (916) 704-1456 Cell > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:04:20 -0400 > From: "Crabb, Nolan" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Favorite Text to Audio Converter > To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" > Message-ID: > <200911DB087DA748846372E8038E0AE202920B4D@Amazon.admin.ohio- > state.edu>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > If you already have a copy of Kurzweil 1000, why not give that a shot? > I've used it to convert PDF, braille files, and of course scanned > printmaterial into MP3 audio using the Neospeech voices-Kate and > Paul. I > very much enjoy converting texts to audio and listening to the > audio in > a Victor Stream, for example. I'll drop in level one bookmarks at > everychapter and create separate audio files for each chapter. Of > course,you can do that on a per-page basis if you need to get that > granular.Indeed, you can bookmark that book any way you want, and > then create > separate audio files based on your bookmarking plan. It might be > impractical to do, but you could even bookmark each paragraph. > Normally, for the kind of personal reading I'm doing, I'm content to > bookmark chapters. The Neospeech Kate voice is a personal > favorite of > mine, and I choose the high-quality audio setting to do my conversion. > It comes out sounding fine for voice work. > > > > The personal philosophical question you have to answer is, do you > speedKate up at the Kurzweil end or just let her run normally and > then assume > the listener will adjust the speed on his or her playback device? > I run > these at pretty rapid rates through Kurzweil 1000, then just run my > Stream at the normal speed. The advantage to that is slightly smaller > files. > > > > Now I must confess I've never tried this with anything mega- > complicatedlike some kind of hard-core math or engineering book. > But doing this on > reasonably straightforward texts works really quite well, and there > really are no audio artifacts or weird sounds that happen as a > result of > the conversion. > > > > It's all a very subjective thing, but I enjoy the Neospeech voices > morethan the AT&T ones-less audio fatigue for me, which means the > ability to > listen longer and retain my interest in what I'm hearing better. > > > > Regards, > > > > Nolan > > > > > > > > > > Nolan Crabb > > Director of Assistive Technology > > The Ohio State University > > 2054 Drake Center, 1849 Cannon Dr., Columbus, OH 43210 > > > > Ph. 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Name: sozi1.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 290 bytes Desc: Card for URL: From rmhaven at stanford.edu Thu Jun 18 10:01:33 2009 From: rmhaven at stanford.edu (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Favorite Text to Audio Converter In-Reply-To: <1936334605.3528651245344263467.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1244336374.3530031245344493252.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu> My go-to programs for simple, versatile, and inexpensive are TextAloud MP3 for Windows PCs ($30 plus $30-35 for separately-purchased human-sounding voices) and GhostReader for Macs ($40, includes human-sounding Cepstral voices). - Shelley Haven ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacqueline Dutot" To: athen@athenpro.org Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:54:49 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Athen] Favorite Text to Audio Converter Hello ATHENS folks, I was wondering if anyone has a favorite text to audio converter they really like. I would like to use it to create audio files of textbook chapters for learners, so I'd like it to convert both Word and PDF files and be reasonably priced. The only one I've ever used is SpokenText.net and I'm curious what others use and like. Thanks for being a valuable source of AT knowledge for this rookie. Thanks, Jackie Jackie Dutot, M.A. Disability Services Associate-Assistive Technology Toll Free: 1-888-CAPELLA, x5926 Fax: 612-977-5060 E-mail: DisabilityServices@capella.edu Capella University 225 South 6 th Street, 9 th Floor Minneapolis, MN 55402 www.capella.edu *******Internet Email Confidentiality Footer********* Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated on this message, (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person) you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. 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Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to official business shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jeano at uwm.edu Thu Jun 18 13:50:31 2009 From: jeano at uwm.edu (Jean M Salzer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Favorite converter for text In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <564583103.13312471245358231752.JavaMail.root@mail03.pantherlink.uwm.edu> I've been using TextAloud for my 'new-to-audio' students for going on 5 years and the majority of them buy it for themselves within one semester - not just because I suggest it, but because they can use it for so much of their day to day stuff - research for papers, playback for editing their papers, emails, etc. Most of the students prefer ATT Mike, some of the guys like Crystal :) I like Mike, he sounds like a radio announcer. For the students who have Macs, I simply suggest they go to the Apple Store and buy a better voice if they don't like what's provided. All the Mac users have laptops and have stated they don't need an MP3 conversion, so they just use the reader. Set up a hotkey to have it talk/stop talking. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: athen-request@athenpro.org To: athen@athenpro.org Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 2:00:02 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 41, Issue 28 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Favorite Text to Audio Converter (Shelley Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:01:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Shelley Haven Subject: Re: [Athen] Favorite Text to Audio Converter To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Message-ID: <1244336374.3530031245344493252.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 My go-to programs for simple, versatile, and inexpensive are TextAloud MP3 for Windows PCs ($30 plus $30-35 for separately-purchased human-sounding voices) and GhostReader for Macs ($40, includes human-sounding Cepstral voices). - Shelley Haven ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacqueline Dutot" To: athen@athenpro.org Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:54:49 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Athen] Favorite Text to Audio Converter Hello ATHENS folks, I was wondering if anyone has a favorite text to audio converter they really like. I would like to use it to create audio files of textbook chapters for learners, so I'd like it to convert both Word and PDF files and be reasonably priced. The only one I've ever used is SpokenText.net and I'm curious what others use and like. Thanks for being a valuable source of AT knowledge for this rookie. Thanks, Jackie Jackie Dutot, M.A. Disability Services Associate-Assistive Technology Toll Free: 1-888-CAPELLA, x5926 Fax: 612-977-5060 E-mail: DisabilityServices@capella.edu Capella University 225 South 6 th Street, 9 th Floor Minneapolis, MN 55402 www.capella.edu *******Internet Email Confidentiality Footer********* Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated on this message, (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person) you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. 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From norm.coombs at gmail.com Thu Jun 18 14:23:23 2009 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Disabled student stats Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20090618142048.02376638@pop.gmail.com> Looking for recent stats on numbers of disabled students in higher ed either total numbers or better total with some break-down. I have always found Google answering almost all my questions but not this time. Actually I ought to have this info on my computer but can't find it. Spent 3-4 hours and now I am confessing my ignorance and asking for help especially if you have a citation too. Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From tbalen at wsu.edu Thu Jun 18 15:36:40 2009 From: tbalen at wsu.edu (Balen, Tim) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Has anybody played with this? Message-ID: <9D2C575D42912646B5CC84E4F33C7571D40221@EXCHANGEVS-03.ad.wsu.edu> I was forwarded a link to www.robobraille.org/frontpage Does anybody have any experience in using their services. I'm going to play with it a bit, and wanted to see if anybody had formed any opinions. Thanks! Tim Balen Washington State University Disability Resource Center www.drc.wsu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A professor's handouts for a class on the topic frequently provided detailed and free information that met my needs without my purchasing a published book. I find that non-commercial sources of information appear less often than they did 10-15 years ago. I wonder if this is my peculiar experience or whether others are noticing that a set of useful, informal and free information that surely is still on the Web is much harder to locate??? Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca Sun Jun 21 20:25:08 2009 From: asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca (Jennison Mark Asuncion) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Study on Social Media Use and Accessibility in Canada Message-ID: Study on the Use and Accessibility of Social Media by College and University Students with Disabilities in Canada The Adaptech Research Network, in partnership with the National Educational Association of Disabled Students (NEADS), has launched a national, cross-disability empirical study examining the use and accessibility of social media by college and university students with visible and invisible disabilities. For the purposes of this research, social media includes social networking sites such as Facebook and MySpace, online gaming, virtual worlds such as SecondLife, along with instant messaging services, blogs, wikis and sites such as YouTube, RateMyProfessor.com, and Classmates.com. Issues to be investigated include: understanding what social media postsecondary students with disabilities currently use and why; what, if any accessibility-related issues these users face; and for those who do not use social media, why. As colleges and universities, along with sectors such as government, employers and all manner of commerce turn to social media to reach prospective, current and graduating college and university students broadly, it is more important then ever to have data on who is using what social media, and understand and address any accessibility barriers. Failure to do so could result in denying full participation by all college and university students, including those with disabilities, in the full range of opportunities that engaging with social media offers. For more information on the study, contact Project Leader, Jennison Asuncion jennison@adaptech.org Since 1996, the Adaptech Research Network has been publishing and presenting empirical, Canadian research primarily into the use and accessibility of information and communication technologies by college and university students with disabilities. This includes a recently completed three-year study looking at the accessibility of e-Learning, and the development of evaluation tools that campuses can use to assess their ICT accessibility from either the service provider or students with disabilities perspective. We have further extended our research scope, exploring the persistence of college and university students with disabilities (stay tuned for a separate announcement on another study). Based at Dawson College in Montreal, the team is Co-Directed by Catherine Fichten, Maria Barile, and Jennison Asuncion. Our website (to be refreshed over the summer) is located at www.adaptech.org Jennison Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/jennison From dann at digilifemedia.biz Mon Jun 22 04:13:26 2009 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] University of South Florida Open Positions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <900936450.16981245669206708.JavaMail.root@mail.digilifemedia.biz> Simply answer to Robedrt's question about missing the snow ..... no! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Beach" To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 4:47:15 PM Subject: Re: [Athen] University of South Florida Open Positions Hey hey! Congratulations Dan! So, you think you'll be able to adjust to the Florida weather after so many years in the Boston area? Arean't you going to miss all that snow? ________________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz [dann@digilifemedia.biz] Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:25 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] University of South Florida Open Positions Good morning everyone, There are three positions now open at the University of South Florida. They can be found at the USF employment website: http://www.usf.edu/Employment/ 1) Human Services Practitioner/Examination and Classroom Support Specialist (Staff Position) 2) Human Services Coordinator/Coordinator for Students with Disabilities Generalist (Administrative) *3) Human Services Coordinator/Coordinator for Assistive Technology (Administrative) For those who may not have heard, I have been hired as the new Associate Director of the Disability Services Office at USF and will be starting in late July. My little e-text company (Digilife Media) will continue operations as my business partner has graduated from his Masters program and will be taking a greater hand in the day to day operations. If interested in any of these positions, feel free to drop me a line or call me directly. Though I have not begun the job yet I have an extremely favorable impression of the institution, my new colleagues, and the Tampa area. Cheers --- Dann 978-914-4601 (mobile) dann@digilifemedia.biz _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu Mon Jun 22 07:18:34 2009 From: Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu (Kenneth Elkind) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] numbers of disabled students in higher ed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC001EB582F@ebe1.umassb.net> Although not able to find Norms request for number of disabled students in higher education statistics. I did find some interesting data regarding to employment for individuals with disabilities. I thought you might be interested. http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsdisability.htm Kenneth Elkind Adaptive Technology Specialist University of Massachusetts - Boston IT-ED Tech Operations Healey Library /UL/ 032 617-287-5243 Kenneth.Elkind@umb.edu Message: 2 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:23:23 -0700 From: Prof Norm Coombs Subject: [Athen] Disabled student stats To: "athen-athenpro.org" Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20090618142048.02376638@pop.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Looking for recent stats on numbers of disabled students in higher ed either total numbers or better total with some break-down. I have always found Google answering almost all my questions but not this time. Actually I ought to have this info on my computer but can't find it. Spent 3-4 hours and now I am confessing my ignorance and asking for help especially if you have a citation too. Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm ************************************* From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Jun 22 08:34:32 2009 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about PDF OCR Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com> I know there is software that will take a PDF document and give me a different file type. My specific question however is this. Occasionally I come across a PDF document that is image only. Is there simple software without my purchasing Acrobat or such complex applications that will take a PDF image file, run OCR on it and extract the text either as a txt file or Doc format? I don't want to buy or learn some complex application? Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From travis at travisroth.com Mon Jun 22 08:41:22 2009 From: travis at travisroth.com (Travis Roth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about PDF OCR In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005901c9f34f$e92c99b0$bb85cd10$@com> Norm, If you have an OCR package such as OmniPage or FineReader these can already read the PDF as an image source and run OCR on them. This has been my experience of being the best/most accurate way. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:35 AM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] question about PDF OCR I know there is software that will take a PDF document and give me a different file type. My specific question however is this. Occasionally I come across a PDF document that is image only. Is there simple software without my purchasing Acrobat or such complex applications that will take a PDF image file, run OCR on it and extract the text either as a txt file or Doc format? I don't want to buy or learn some complex application? Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From alpuzz at msu.edu Mon Jun 22 08:42:57 2009 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about PDF OCR References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: HI Norm, Do you already have Kurzweil 1000? If so, K1000 will do this for you. Al -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:35 AM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] question about PDF OCR I know there is software that will take a PDF document and give me a different file type. My specific question however is this. Occasionally I come across a PDF document that is image only. Is there simple software without my purchasing Acrobat or such complex applications that will take a PDF image file, run OCR on it and extract the text either as a txt file or Doc format? I don't want to buy or learn some complex application? Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at ahead.org Mon Jun 22 09:34:34 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about PDF OCR In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003501c9f357$56703bb0$0350b310$@org> Hi Norm, you might also want to try the OCR engine in Acrobat Pro or even the Microsoft Office Document Scanner . For basic docs they seem to work just fine. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:43 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] question about PDF OCR HI Norm, Do you already have Kurzweil 1000? If so, K1000 will do this for you. Al -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:35 AM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] question about PDF OCR I know there is software that will take a PDF document and give me a different file type. My specific question however is this. Occasionally I come across a PDF document that is image only. Is there simple software without my purchasing Acrobat or such complex applications that will take a PDF image file, run OCR on it and extract the text either as a txt file or Doc format? I don't want to buy or learn some complex application? Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From john.gardner at orst.edu Mon Jun 22 09:40:13 2009 From: john.gardner at orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about PDF OCR In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A3FB3ED.1060703@orst.edu> Norm, I use the Microsoft Document Image Writer. It is one of the tools bundled with MS Office. You can use it in one of two ways. * Import a PDF into MSDIW and in the tools menu, export to MS Word. If it needs to be OCR'ed, MSDIW will just do it for you. I have found the OCR to be pretty good. *Print from Acrobat Reader to the MSDIW pseudo-printer that should be in your printer driver list. This will produce a file in MSDIW format. Open it and then go to the tools menu and follow the steps listed above. I have an old full Acrobat on my computer, and MSDIW uses it when importing. If you have only Acrobat Reader, the first method might not work - I just don't know. But the second way does work with Acrobat Reader. Enjoy. John On 6/22/2009 8:34 AM, Prof Norm Coombs wrote: > I know there is software that will take a PDF document and give me a > different file type. My specific question however is this. > Occasionally I come across a PDF document that is image only. Is there > simple software without my purchasing Acrobat or such complex > applications that will take a PDF image file, run OCR on it and extract > the text either as a txt file or Doc format? > > I don't want to buy or learn some complex application? > > Norm > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com > CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information > phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) > ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: > http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From gdietrich at htctu.net Mon Jun 22 09:55:40 2009 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] numbers of disabled students in higher ed In-Reply-To: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC001EB582F@ebe1.umassb.net> References: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC001EB582F@ebe1.umassb.net> Message-ID: The California community colleges have quite extensive statistics on their disabled student population. See the Data Mart on the Chancellor's Office Web site: https://misweb.cccco.edu/mis/onlinestat/programs.cfm Historically, the numbers have run around 5-10% of the students in the CCCs have a disability. Here is the date for the 2007-2008 school year: https://misweb.cccco.edu/mis/onlinestat/Programs_rpt.cfm?RequestTimeout=500 In a nutshell, for 2007-2008, there were a total of 2,791,626 students in the CCC system, and there were 102,700 who reported some sort of disability. That works out to about 4% of all students, which is actually a bit on the low side for us. Statistics that I have seen for four-year institutions put their numbers down below 1%. Hope this helps! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The HTCTU provides leadership, training, and support to the California Community Colleges in using technology to promote the success of students with disabilities. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kenneth Elkind Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 7:19 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] numbers of disabled students in higher ed Although not able to find Norms request for number of disabled students in higher education statistics. I did find some interesting data regarding to employment for individuals with disabilities. I thought you might be interested. http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsdisability.htm Kenneth Elkind Adaptive Technology Specialist University of Massachusetts - Boston IT-ED Tech Operations Healey Library /UL/ 032 617-287-5243 Kenneth.Elkind@umb.edu Message: 2 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:23:23 -0700 From: Prof Norm Coombs Subject: [Athen] Disabled student stats To: "athen-athenpro.org" Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20090618142048.02376638@pop.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Looking for recent stats on numbers of disabled students in higher ed either total numbers or better total with some break-down. I have always found Google answering almost all my questions but not this time. Actually I ought to have this info on my computer but can't find it. Spent 3-4 hours and now I am confessing my ignorance and asking for help especially if you have a citation too. Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm ************************************* _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Jacqueline.Dutot at capella.edu Mon Jun 22 12:17:10 2009 From: Jacqueline.Dutot at capella.edu (Dutot, Jacqueline) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Favorite Text to Audio Converter Message-ID: <74E2C9162804494BB52A6CC1820DCEBC0C6C77D3E0@MSPMAILCLU1.int.capella.lan> Thank you everyone for all of the great input about Text to Audio Converters. It seems like every product claims to have everything and do everything, so it is nice to weed through all of that with input from experienced folks. Thanks, Jackie Jackie Dutot, M.A. Disability Services Associate-Assistive Technology Toll Free: 1-888-CAPELLA, x5926 Fax: 612-977-5060 E-mail: DisabilityServices@capella.edu Capella University 225 South 6th Street, 9th Floor Minneapolis, MN 55402 www.capella.edu *******Internet Email Confidentiality Footer********* Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated on this message, (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person) you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to official business shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there > simple software without my purchasing Acrobat or such complex applications > that will take a PDF image file, run OCR on it and extract the text either > as a txt file or Doc format? > > I don't want to buy or learn some complex application? > > Norm > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com > CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information > phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) > ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: > http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -- Nettie T. Fischer, ATP Assistive Technology Practitioner Nettiet, ATP Consultants www.nettietatpconsultants.com [916] 222-3492 Office (916) 704-1456 Cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1501 Kincaid St. Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu From john.gardner at orst.edu Mon Jun 22 14:29:44 2009 From: john.gardner at orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] SPSS and JAWS In-Reply-To: <1245704390.633300.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> References: <1245704390.633300.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <4A3FF7C8.80807@orst.edu> Hello James. This subject is discussed frequently on the Blind Math list. Yes SPS works with Jaws, but no it is not useful. At least that is my synthesis of the discussions. As seems common these days, SPS is accessible only in principle. ie it's nearly impossible to use unless you are a real computer geek. And if you are really a computer geek, you use "R" instead. It is free, works great, and is really accessible. Jonathan Godfrey, a blind faculty member from New Zealand, is the lists's R expert, and I'm happy to put you in contact if you need help with R. John On 6/22/2009 1:59 PM, James Bailey wrote: > I seem to be conflicting info as to whether JAWS works with SPSS. What's the consensus of the group? > > Thanks, > > James > > -- > James Bailey > Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon > 1501 Kincaid St. > Eugene, OR 97403-1299 > Office: 541-346-1076 > jbailey@uoregon.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From ron at ahead.org Mon Jun 22 19:24:30 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [vipnews] Low-Cost Screen Readers Message-ID: <008801c9f3a9$bd3f61c0$37be2540$@org> Thought inquiring minds might want to know Ron NFB Braille Monitor, May 2009 Edition Low-Cost Screen Readers by the Access Technology Team >From the Editor: In the following article the International Braille and Technology Center Access Technology Team reviews four free or low-cost screen readers: Thunder, NVDA, System Access, and WebAnywhere. This is what they say: Thunder Thunder is a free screen-access program as long as its use is personal. If Thunder is being used in a work setting, the company is asked to contact Screenreader.net CIC to discuss pricing. Thunder can be downloaded from and installed on any computer running Windows 2000, XP, or Vista. Windows 98, ME, and earlier versions are not compatible with Thunder. A pro version is available for a fee that runs from a thumb drive. Thunder is compatible with the following programs: Outlook Express, Microsoft Word, WordPad, Notepad, MS Calculator, MS Excel, Nod32 AntiVirus, Listen Again radio, and MS Sound Recorder. When you download Thunder, an additional program called WebbIE is automatically downloaded and installed with Thunder for browsing the Internet. Thunder is controlled by standard Windows commands, and there are special commands for controlling Thunder. Its greatest limitation is Web browsing. The only way to navigate the Web is by using WebbIE. It is important to read the hot keys list at < www.screenreader.net > because there are several special commands for Web browsing. When filling out a form on the Web, you must press Enter before typing in the form field. NVDA The next screen reader is NVDA, which stands for NonVisual Desktop Access. It is free and can be downloaded by visiting < http://www.nvda-project.org >. This is experimental software and may contain bugs. We find it very responsive and easy to use. NVDA will run on Windows XP and Windows Vista. NVDA supports both SAPI 4 and 5 voices, Audiologic, Display, and Silence; it comes with eSpeak as the default speech synthesizer. It can be installed to a PC, or the files can be placed on a CD or USB thumb drive for portable use. If the installer is downloaded to a PC, voiced instructions will guide the user through the installation. If the program is placed on a USB thumb drive, the user will need to start the program manually. NVDA supports MS Word 2003, Firefox, Thunderbird, Internet Explorer, Outlook Express, MS Excel 2003, IBM Lotus Symphony, and many other programs. It is worth being cautious about using these screen-access software packages outside of their stated scope. For example, NVDA performed less than desirably with Microsoft Outlook 2003 (as opposed to Outlook Express). While it was possible to read the Inbox message list and read messages, a number of areas caused NVDA to stop responding. When composing a new message, we could not read the auto-complete options for an email address. Additionally, when reviewing the To, Cc, and Bcc fields, we found the addresses unreadable. The address book, which opens when Outlook prompts the user to confirm an address, did not read at all. Our system also stopped responding when we reached the message edit area of the new message form. We could enter text, but NVDA did not allow us to review or edit it. The Outlook calendar and contacts folders were not read at all. A blind user has no way of reviewing this information in the standard views. There is currently no support for Microsoft Office 2007. When you are in an edit field while browsing the Internet, Enter or the space bar must be pressed before filling in the form or choosing a radio button. We recommend that Firefox be used to browse the Web; however, we have used Internet Explorer successfully. When you are going to a Web page that needs to refresh automatically, Firefox will yield better results. When navigating the Web, the user can move to forms, tables, headings, lists, and links by pressing a single key. NVDA has built-in keyboard help. When NVDA is installed on the computer, start-up time is very fast. User settings can be changed and saved within the Preference menu of the program. Voice settings, mouse settings, speech synthesizer, mouse, and many other options are available from this menu. System Access Another screen-access software package is System Access. This low-cost screen reader is available from < http://www.serotek.com >. It can be purchased outright; alternatively, the user can get a monthly subscription. Prices vary depending on the package you choose. Contact Serotek for current pricing information or visit < http://www.serotek.com/cas.html >. The AIR Foundation and Serotek now also offer System Access to Go, which gives free screen access using the Website < www.satogo.com >. System Access by default comes with Dectalk voices. For an additional fee two Real Speak voices can be downloaded and installed. This program runs on Windows 2003 Server, Windows XP, and Windows Vista. System Access supports the following applications: Notepad, WordPad, Outlook Express, Email Center on a Vista machine, Excel, PowerPoint, Firefox, Internet Explorer, Microsoft Office 2007, Skype, and many other programs. System Access is easy to use because it uses many standard Windows commands. Moreover, many screen-reader commands are the same as those in other screen readers on the market today. When using Internet Explorer, you can get a links list, tab to move by link, use first letter navigation to move to headings, tables, lists, and many other elements as well. In Internet Explorer, if a Webpage requires a lot of refreshing, this program may not always work. If you are a subscriber to the System Access mobile network, the page can be opened by the browser. With a System Access U3 USB thumb drive, you can walk up to a computer, plug in the drive, and have System Access begin talking. If users have System Access on a computer at home or the office and have enabled remote access, they can use that computer from any machine as if they were sitting at it. With System Access the user can also remote-control another user's computer if that person accepts a request from the other machine. System Access provides access to the Microsoft Excel interface. The user can input and manipulate data and formulas and interact with the menus and toolbars. The user can also create a chart and, depending on the type, read the data it contains. A dialog box, accessed by pressing the System Access modifier key and F7, displays list boxes for all cells containing data, cells containing links, totals cells (those containing totals derived from a formula), and the worksheets contained in the Excel workbook. Selecting one of the totals cells and pressing the space bar toggles the automatic reading of that cell if the data it contains changes. Access to the Microsoft Word word processor is also available with System Access. Menus, toolbars, and dialog boxes are usable. When you move by character or word, formatting details such as bold or italic are spoken in a different voice after the word or character is read. However, elements such as heading levels are not spoken. The spell check is accessible, and System Access speaks the misspelled word and the recommended replacement. System Access also supports the Alva Braille Controller 640 as a Braille display; no other Braille support is documented. Web Anywhere Web Anywhere (WA) is not a screen reader in the traditional sense of the word. It does provide audio output of screen contents but is restricted to the Web browser solely. The Web Anywhere site was developed by the Computer Science Department of the University of Washington and can be accessed at < www.wa.cs.washington.edu >. When this page is launched, your computer should begin reading Web Anywhere's start page. This page describes the Web Anywhere system and provides a list of keystrokes that can be used with Web Anywhere. In a basic sense Web browsing can be achieved with Web Anywhere in a traditional way. Users can arrow around the page and tab and shift tab between the links. Above the page content is a box for typing in the URL that you would like Web Anywhere to navigate to. WA loads your desired page into the browser window that contains Web Anywhere, which is evident if you examine the window with a screen reader like JAWS. However, with all other screen readers shut down, you have access to only the part of the Web browser where Web Anywhere and your desired page are located. You will not be able to use any third-party applications while using WA. In its current form Web Anywhere is an alpha release. It offers basic Web browsing that includes navigation by heading, link, and input control. There are also commands to read from the current cursor position, read from the top, and move to the next and previous form control, regardless of what type of control it is. WA currently lacks a traditional table-reading mode but does offer ways to move through a table by row and by cell. It is difficult to understand how the table is formatted because you cannot easily navigate to cells and multiple rows. Web Anywhere also does not provide ways to list links, controls, or other elements as you can in more powerful screen readers. Web Anywhere is an alpha project. It is available free of charge from . Since it is a Web-based application, you will always have the latest version whenever you launch the site. We have written this article to make users aware of free and low-cost screen readers. System Access is the most powerful of the screen readers we have discussed. JAWS, Hal, and Window-Eyes allow the user to write JAWS and Hal scripts or Window-Eyes scripts or set files to customize programs to work better. If a person wants to have basic use of the computer, the screen-access software discussed in this article will allow this. We believe that Thunder is the least powerful screen reader followed by NVDA, and then System Access. Other than the limited Braille support for System Access mentioned above, none of the screen-access software discussed in this article has Braille support at this time. If you have further questions, give our access technology line a call at (410) 659-9314, option 5. LINK: Further issues of the Braille Monitor, including the new June 2009 edition can be found at http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Braille_Monitor.asp?SnID=1075700111#Online%20Access SOURCE http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm09/bm0905/bm090506.htm --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Please note: All articles posted to this list are copyright of their original publishers. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "vipnews" group. To post to this group, send email to vipnews@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vipnews+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vipnews?hl=en?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Jun 22 21:55:56 2009 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about PDF OCR In-Reply-To: <005901c9f34f$e92c99b0$bb85cd10$@com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com> <005901c9f34f$e92c99b0$bb85cd10$@com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622215543.024ad970@pop.gmail.com> Thanks but I don't have that. Norm At 08:41 AM 6/22/2009, you wrote: >Norm, >If you have an OCR package such as OmniPage or FineReader these can already >read the PDF as an image source and run OCR on them. >This has been my experience of being the best/most accurate way. > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs >Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:35 AM >To: athen-athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] question about PDF OCR > >I know there is software that will take a PDF document and give me a >different file type. My specific question however is this. >Occasionally I come across a PDF document that is image only. Is there >simple software without my purchasing Acrobat or such complex applications >that will take a PDF image file, run OCR on it and extract the text either >as a txt file or Doc format? > >I don't want to buy or learn some complex application? > >Norm > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com >CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information >phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) >****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: >http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From info at karlencommunications.com Tue Jun 23 03:22:32 2009 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about PDF OCR In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622215543.024ad970@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com> <005901c9f34f$e92c99b0$bb85cd10$@com> <6.0.3.0.2.20090622215543.024ad970@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001201c9f3ec$852a67b0$8f7f3710$@com> Norm - do you have a scanner? Most scanners come with lighter versions of OmniPage Pro or TextBridge. You just need to install them. Most people don't install them but for people using adaptive technology they are good tools in case OpenBook or Kurzweill don't do a good job on the OCR or if you have a PDF and don't have other tools. This isn't a 30 day trial just a OEM version of the products. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:56 AM To: travis@travisroth.com; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] question about PDF OCR Thanks but I don't have that. Norm At 08:41 AM 6/22/2009, you wrote: >Norm, >If you have an OCR package such as OmniPage or FineReader these can already >read the PDF as an image source and run OCR on them. >This has been my experience of being the best/most accurate way. > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs >Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:35 AM >To: athen-athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] question about PDF OCR > >I know there is software that will take a PDF document and give me a >different file type. My specific question however is this. >Occasionally I come across a PDF document that is image only. Is there >simple software without my purchasing Acrobat or such complex applications >that will take a PDF image file, run OCR on it and extract the text either >as a txt file or Doc format? > >I don't want to buy or learn some complex application? > >Norm > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com >CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information >phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) >****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: >http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu Tue Jun 23 05:59:19 2009 From: Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu (Kenneth Elkind) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] freedom scientifics response about SPSS Message-ID: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC001EB5834@ebe1.umassb.net> John and James, I talked to freedom scientifics about using Jaws with SPSS. Convey that there is a script for it. In this little bit dated design for SPSS 15. I have not used it nor do I have a student that has. I'm more than happy to e-mail response to anybody that is interested. It is quite lengthy. 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URL: From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Tue Jun 23 07:44:55 2009 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] question about PDF OCR In-Reply-To: <001201c9f3ec$852a67b0$8f7f3710$@com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com> <005901c9f34f$e92c99b0$bb85cd10$@com><6.0.3.0.2.20090622215543.024ad970@pop.gmail.com> <001201c9f3ec$852a67b0$8f7f3710$@com> Message-ID: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C03A59049@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Just a warning on the OEM version of OmniPage -- the one that came with my scanner did not open PDF files, unlike the full version of the product that I normally use. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:23 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] question about PDF OCR Norm - do you have a scanner? Most scanners come with lighter versions of OmniPage Pro or TextBridge. You just need to install them. Most people don't install them but for people using adaptive technology they are good tools in case OpenBook or Kurzweill don't do a good job on the OCR or if you have a PDF and don't have other tools. This isn't a 30 day trial just a OEM version of the products. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:56 AM To: travis@travisroth.com; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] question about PDF OCR Thanks but I don't have that. Norm At 08:41 AM 6/22/2009, you wrote: >Norm, >If you have an OCR package such as OmniPage or FineReader these can already >read the PDF as an image source and run OCR on them. >This has been my experience of being the best/most accurate way. > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs >Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:35 AM >To: athen-athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] question about PDF OCR > >I know there is software that will take a PDF document and give me a >different file type. My specific question however is this. >Occasionally I come across a PDF document that is image only. Is there >simple software without my purchasing Acrobat or such complex applications >that will take a PDF image file, run OCR on it and extract the text either >as a txt file or Doc format? > >I don't want to buy or learn some complex application? > >Norm > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com >CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information >phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) >****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: >http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From norm.coombs at gmail.com Tue Jun 23 07:55:47 2009 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Denise Wood) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Second Life and Disability Access Event Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20090623075223.023789d0@pop.gmail.com> Press Release PRESS RELEASE: Hellen Keller Day in Second Life Contact person: Saxet Uralia The 24-hour event PDT will be held all day Saturday, June 27 at the four The Ye, Olde, Supporte, Faire sims. ((http://slurl.com/secondlife/Faire/20/222/38) Linden Lab is collaborating with and assisting Virtual Helping Hands and a coalition of community volunteers who are proud to announce Helen Keller Day in Second Life. Helen Keller Day is a community-event exploring how and why to employ, educate, entertain, and engage everyone through virtual worlds. Helen Keller Day is a day that is set aside for information acquisition, education, exploration of employment opportunities, social engagement, and enjoyment of arts and entertainment... There will be vendors, employers, presentations, and pure, unbridled fun. It's a day dedicated to raising our level of awareness for our fellow Second Life residents who cope with disabilities. At some time in our lives, we've all felt what it feels like not to be able to participate... not to be included. Knowing how to include someone with a disability, and make them feel welcome, is an important social skill, and a small but significant kindness that we can all benefit from and feel good about. Participants will meet people learn things, get freebies, and be entertained for their efforts. You will hear keynote speakers Keller Johnson Thompson, the great grandniece of Helen herself and Linden Labs Education and Healthcare Developer, John Lester, aka Pathfinder Linden. You will hear from experts in the fields of virtual education, employment, social engagement and entertainment. There will be building contests featuring skilled builders doing accessible builds before our virtual eyes. There will be a world premier "movie" featuring "Max," the virtual guide dog developed in Second Life for SL users who are blind or sight impaired. Also featured will be an exhibition of Max's abilities, a fashion show, chess, a Braille chat display, dancing, singing quests and storytelling... even a virtual goldmine! There will be experiences designed to spark the imagination and "see" and "hear" the world with all the senses in new and thought provoking ways. Join the pioneers in virtual worlds who are inspired by the spirit of Helen Keller to explore ways in which everyone can participate...and create a world that richer for all. Please come and learn, connect, explore, be entertained, and pick up freebies while sharing this positive and uplifting experience with us. I think this press will interest some of the people on these lists. Don't email me for information as I don't know more than what is in the press release below: From mpthornton at ualr.edu Tue Jun 23 09:13:29 2009 From: mpthornton at ualr.edu (Melanie Thornton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] SPSS and JAWS In-Reply-To: <4A3FF7C8.80807@orst.edu> References: <1245704390.633300.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> <4A3FF7C8.80807@orst.edu> Message-ID: <4A40FF29.7040202@ualr.edu> This discussion triggered a discussion on our campus and someone posted this link for "R" with web interfaces. I have no idea how helpful they are but wanted to pass the link along: http://cran.r-project.org/doc/FAQ/R-FAQ.html#R-Web-Interfaces Melanie Thornton John Gardner wrote: > Hello James. This subject is discussed frequently on the Blind > Math list. Yes SPS works with Jaws, but no it is not useful. At > least that is my synthesis of the discussions. As seems common these > days, SPS is accessible only in principle. ie it's nearly impossible > to use unless you are a real computer geek. And if you are really a > computer geek, you use "R" instead. It is free, works great, and is > really accessible. Jonathan Godfrey, a blind faculty member from New > Zealand, is the lists's R expert, and I'm happy to put you in contact > if you need help with R. > > John > > > On 6/22/2009 1:59 PM, James Bailey wrote: >> I seem to be conflicting info as to whether JAWS works with SPSS. >> What's the consensus of the group? >> >> Thanks, >> >> James >> >> -- >> James Bailey >> Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon >> 1501 Kincaid St. >> Eugene, OR 97403-1299 >> Office: 541-346-1076 >> jbailey@uoregon.edu >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu Tue Jun 23 09:28:22 2009 From: gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu (Gerry Nies) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lecture capture systems In-Reply-To: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C03A59049@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com> <005901c9f34f$e92c99b0$bb85cd10$@com><6.0.3.0.2.20090622215543.024ad970@pop.gmail.com> <001201c9f3ec$852a67b0$8f7f3710$@com> <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C03A59049@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <4A40BC54.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> We are looking at lecture capture systems to be used on our campus. I know that they are being used in an number of schools. If you can give me/us some information on accessibility it would be greatly appreciated. I would be interested in both end user and actual production. Thanks Gerry Nies University of North Dakota Gerry Nies Information Technology Tech University of North Dakota Disability Services for Students McCannel Hall Room 190 2891 2nd Avenue North Stop 9040 Grand Forks, ND 58202-9040 (701)777-3827 (701)777-4170 FAX gerrynies@mail.und.edu STOP! This message is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are NOT the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the above mentioned e-mail or telephone number and delete this e-mail from your computer From ccolaci at yukoncollege.yk.ca Tue Jun 23 10:24:51 2009 From: ccolaci at yukoncollege.yk.ca (Catalina Colaci) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lecture capture systems In-Reply-To: <4A40BC54.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com><005901c9f34f$e92c99b0$bb85cd10$@com><6.0.3.0.2.20090622215543.024ad970@pop.gmail.com><001201c9f3ec$852a67b0$8f7f3710$@com><0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C03A59049@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <4A40BC54.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> Message-ID: Hi, Have you looked at "Liberated Learning"? the link to the consortium is http://www.liberatedlearning.com/consortium/index.shtml Overview The Liberated Learning concept is based on two interrelated applications: using speech recognition technology to automatically transcribe spoken language and display it as readable text and; using speech recognition to produce accessible, multimedia transcripts. The Liberated Learning concept undergoes continuous development and refinement by members of the Liberated Learning Consortium, a group of international university and industry partners working to improve information accessibility through speech recognition technology. I hope this is helpful Catalina Colaci , Coordinator Learning Assistance Centre Support Services for Students with Disabilities -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gerry Nies Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:28 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Lecture capture systems We are looking at lecture capture systems to be used on our campus. I know that they are being used in an number of schools. If you can give me/us some information on accessibility it would be greatly appreciated. I would be interested in both end user and actual production. Thanks Gerry Nies University of North Dakota Gerry Nies Information Technology Tech University of North Dakota Disability Services for Students McCannel Hall Room 190 2891 2nd Avenue North Stop 9040 Grand Forks, ND 58202-9040 (701)777-3827 (701)777-4170 FAX gerrynies@mail.und.edu STOP! This message is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are NOT the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the above mentioned e-mail or telephone number and delete this e-mail from your computer _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From john.gardner at orst.edu Tue Jun 23 10:55:13 2009 From: john.gardner at orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] SPSS and JAWS In-Reply-To: <4A40FF29.7040202@ualr.edu> References: <1245704390.633300.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> <4A3FF7C8.80807@orst.edu> <4A40FF29.7040202@ualr.edu> Message-ID: <4A411701.5020503@orst.edu> Apparently there is a lot of interest in R, since I have had several inquiries from my post yesterday. Unfortunately I really am pretty ignorant of statistics - I was just parroting what I have heard on other lists. However I can tell you that R is free software for doing statistical computations, graphing, printing the graphics, etc. It is claimed that R can do anything that SPS can do. There are R versions for Unix, Mac, and Windows. Following Melanie's URL below I found a Windows FAQ for R: http://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/rw-FAQ.html which may be helpful. At least this FAQ tells you how to obtain and install the Windows version of R. There is a manual and help files, so presumably one can learn to use it if one knows about statistical computation. I have asked Jonathan Godfrey for more information and will forward it to this list if/when I hear back. All I know for sure is that he uses R in terminal mode and finds it very accessible to screen readers. Terminal mode is old-fashioned, so most non-disabled users will use the fancy GUI interface. But the terminal mode can do anything that can be done with the GUI interface. John On 6/23/2009 9:13 AM, Melanie Thornton wrote: > This discussion triggered a discussion on our campus and someone > posted this link for "R" with web interfaces. I have no idea how helpful > they are but wanted to pass the link along: > http://cran.r-project.org/doc/FAQ/R-FAQ.html#R-Web-Interfaces > > Melanie Thornton > > > > John Gardner wrote: >> Hello James. This subject is discussed frequently on the Blind Math >> list. Yes SPS works with Jaws, but no it is not useful. At least that >> is my synthesis of the discussions. As seems common these days, SPS is >> accessible only in principle. ie it's nearly impossible to use unless >> you are a real computer geek. And if you are really a computer geek, >> you use "R" instead. It is free, works great, and is really >> accessible. Jonathan Godfrey, a blind faculty member from New Zealand, >> is the lists's R expert, and I'm happy to put you in contact if you >> need help with R. >> >> John >> >> >> On 6/22/2009 1:59 PM, James Bailey wrote: >>> I seem to be conflicting info as to whether JAWS works with SPSS. >>> What's the consensus of the group? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> James >>> >>> -- >>> James Bailey >>> Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon >>> 1501 Kincaid St. >>> Eugene, OR 97403-1299 >>> Office: 541-346-1076 >>> jbailey@uoregon.edu >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Athen mailing list >>> Athen@athenpro.org >>> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From mpthornton at ualr.edu Tue Jun 23 12:00:57 2009 From: mpthornton at ualr.edu (Melanie Thornton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] SPSS and JAWS In-Reply-To: <4A411701.5020503@orst.edu> References: <1245704390.633300.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> <4A3FF7C8.80807@orst.edu> <4A40FF29.7040202@ualr.edu> <4A411701.5020503@orst.edu> Message-ID: <4A412669.40506@ualr.edu> Very interesting. I posted a message to our faculty listserv sharing the information about R as an alternative to SPSS yesterday evening. Today, I received an email from Kyle Weeks, Director of Product Strategy for the PASW Statistics (formerly SPSS). He was asking what problems screen reader had using PASW (formerly SPSS) and stating they tested extensively with JAWS. I suggested that if he was interested in learning more about the user experience, he might consider contacting AFB to see about conducting a survey of screen reader users who use their product. It seems like a rather odd way to do public relations. But if any of you do want to share first-hand experiences, he can be contacted at: kweeks@spss.com Melanie John Gardner wrote: > Apparently there is a lot of interest in R, since I have had several > inquiries from my post yesterday. Unfortunately I really am pretty > ignorant of statistics - I was just parroting what I have heard on > other lists. However I can tell you that R is free software for doing > statistical computations, graphing, printing the graphics, etc. It is > claimed that R can do anything that SPS can do. > > There are R versions for Unix, Mac, and Windows. Following Melanie's > URL below I found a Windows FAQ for R: > http://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/rw-FAQ.html > which may be helpful. At least this FAQ tells you how to obtain and > install the Windows version of R. There is a manual and help files, > so presumably one can learn to use it if one knows about statistical > computation. > > I have asked Jonathan Godfrey for more information and will forward it > to this list if/when I hear back. All I know for sure is that he uses > R in terminal mode and finds it very accessible to screen readers. > Terminal mode is old-fashioned, so most non-disabled users will use > the fancy GUI interface. But the terminal mode can do anything that > can be done with the GUI interface. > > John > > On 6/23/2009 9:13 AM, Melanie Thornton wrote: >> This discussion triggered a discussion on our campus and someone >> posted this link for "R" with web interfaces. I have no idea how helpful >> they are but wanted to pass the link along: >> http://cran.r-project.org/doc/FAQ/R-FAQ.html#R-Web-Interfaces >> >> Melanie Thornton >> >> >> >> John Gardner wrote: >>> Hello James. This subject is discussed frequently on the Blind Math >>> list. Yes SPS works with Jaws, but no it is not useful. At least that >>> is my synthesis of the discussions. As seems common these days, SPS is >>> accessible only in principle. ie it's nearly impossible to use unless >>> you are a real computer geek. And if you are really a computer geek, >>> you use "R" instead. It is free, works great, and is really >>> accessible. Jonathan Godfrey, a blind faculty member from New Zealand, >>> is the lists's R expert, and I'm happy to put you in contact if you >>> need help with R. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> On 6/22/2009 1:59 PM, James Bailey wrote: >>>> I seem to be conflicting info as to whether JAWS works with SPSS. >>>> What's the consensus of the group? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> James >>>> >>>> -- >>>> James Bailey >>>> Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon >>>> 1501 Kincaid St. >>>> Eugene, OR 97403-1299 >>>> Office: 541-346-1076 >>>> jbailey@uoregon.edu >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Athen mailing list >>>> Athen@athenpro.org >>>> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Athen mailing list >>> Athen@athenpro.org >>> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ea at emptech.info Wed Jun 24 01:41:37 2009 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lecture capture systems In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com><005901c9f34f$e92c99b0$bb85cd10$@com><6.0.3.0.2.20090622215543.024ad970@pop.gmail.com><001201c9f3ec$852a67b0$8f7f3710$@com><0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C03A59049@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <4A40BC54.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> Message-ID: <003201c9f4a7$9688e700$c39ab500$@info> There is also Synote that is free to use at www.synote.org It can accessibly replay lectures captured by any system including those captured by members of the liberated learning consortium using speech recognition captioning Synote is being used in the European Net4Voice project http://www.liberatedlearning.com/projects/net4voice.shtml It has also been nominated for an award and this page has more information. http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/about/news/2586 Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Catalina Colaci Sent: 23 June 2009 18:25 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Lecture capture systems Hi, Have you looked at "Liberated Learning"? the link to the consortium is http://www.liberatedlearning.com/consortium/index.shtml Overview The Liberated Learning concept is based on two interrelated applications: using speech recognition technology to automatically transcribe spoken language and display it as readable text and; using speech recognition to produce accessible, multimedia transcripts. The Liberated Learning concept undergoes continuous development and refinement by members of the Liberated Learning Consortium, a group of international university and industry partners working to improve information accessibility through speech recognition technology. I hope this is helpful Catalina Colaci , Coordinator Learning Assistance Centre Support Services for Students with Disabilities -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gerry Nies Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:28 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Lecture capture systems We are looking at lecture capture systems to be used on our campus. I know that they are being used in an number of schools. If you can give me/us some information on accessibility it would be greatly appreciated. I would be interested in both end user and actual production. Thanks Gerry Nies University of North Dakota Gerry Nies Information Technology Tech University of North Dakota Disability Services for Students McCannel Hall Room 190 2891 2nd Avenue North Stop 9040 Grand Forks, ND 58202-9040 (701)777-3827 (701)777-4170 FAX gerrynies@mail.und.edu STOP! This message is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are NOT the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the above mentioned e-mail or telephone number and delete this e-mail from your computer _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.89/2197 - Release Date: 06/23/09 05:54:00 From Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu Wed Jun 24 05:58:42 2009 From: Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu (Kenneth Elkind) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] numbers of disabled students in higher education In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00241FA35@ebe1.umassb.net> Norm, Last week you are looking for some statistics about college students. >From the generosity and my surprise the Department of labor/office of disabilities provided me with the following information. A hope you'll find it useful. Sara wrote: Dear Kenneth, Thank you for your email. The general number is around 10-11%. I remember that statistic from my grad school days (not too long ago) and asked a colleague of mine who recommended the NLTS2 report. They estimate that of the college population 11% of students have self-identified as students with disabilities. Here is the link to the NLTS2 website for your reference: http://www.nlts2.org/index.html and here is also another chart to back up the about 10% number: http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d03/tables/dt214.asp. I hope that this helps and good luck! Best, Sara Sara Mahoney Business Development Specialist Department of Labor, Office of Disability Employment Policy Office: 202-693-7901 mahoney.sara@dol.gov Web: https://wrp.gov/ Kenneth Elkind Adaptive Technology Specialist University of Massachusetts - Boston IT-ED Tech Operations Healey Library /UL/ 032 617-287-5243 Kenneth.Elkind@umb.edu From gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu Wed Jun 24 06:32:12 2009 From: gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu (Gerry Nies) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Are any of these lecture capture system more accessible than others? In-Reply-To: <003201c9f4a7$9688e700$c39ab500$@info> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com><005901c9f34f$e92c99b0$bb85cd10$@com><6.0.3.0.2.20090622215543.024ad970@pop.gmail.com><001201c9f3ec$852a67b0$8f7f3710$@com><0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C03A59049@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <4A40BC54.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> <003201c9f4a7$9688e700$c39ab500$@info> Message-ID: <4A41E489.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> >From what the salespeople said these systems are being used by may schools. So to be more specific in my request. We are looking at Panopto, Echo 360, Media Site, Apple Podcast Producer, Tegrity, Accordent to be used for lecture capture at our university. I have been asked to get more information on them and how accessible they are. Are there others that we should look at? Have you used any of these systems? What are the concerns for their use by our students? Thanks Gerry From Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu Wed Jun 24 07:43:56 2009 From: Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu (Kenneth Elkind) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] a tool to create statistics for higher education In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00241FA38@ebe1.umassb.net> Have been poking around with a neat tool the national Center of educational statistics. This information is somewhat current 2008 data. You can create your own table giving you the variables of types of disabilities institution, age of first year of college and so on. One can spent quite a long time messing with this. If somebody has a little bit more background in building tables be great to see what you can find. there's the website http://nces.ed.gov/dasolv2/tables/mainPage.asp?fileNumber=51&mode=NEW Kenneth Elkind Adaptive Technology Specialist University of Massachusetts - Boston IT-ED Tech Operations Healey Library /UL/ 032 617-287-5243 Kenneth.Elkind@umb.edu ************************************* From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Wed Jun 24 09:05:22 2009 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lecture capture systems In-Reply-To: <003201c9f4a7$9688e700$c39ab500$@info> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com><005901c9f34f$e92c99b0$bb85cd10$@com><6.0.3.0.2.20090622215543.024ad970@pop.gmail.com><001201c9f3ec$852a67b0$8f7f3710$@com><0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C03A59049@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <4A40BC54.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> <003201c9f4a7$9688e700$c39ab500$@info> Message-ID: <4A424EC2.2080906@mcmail.maricopa.edu> EA I missed the earlier post on this. What system was used to capture the lectures? I'll follow through with your suggestion below and use this for some "cool stuff" faculty & media services training. Blessings, Wink E.A. Draffan wrote: > There is also Synote that is free to use at > > www.synote.org > > It can accessibly replay lectures captured by any system including those > captured by members of the liberated learning consortium using speech > recognition captioning > > Synote is being used in the European Net4Voice project > > http://www.liberatedlearning.com/projects/net4voice.shtml > > It has also been nominated for an award and this page has more information. > > http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/about/news/2586 > > > > Best wishes E.A. > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > Learning Societies Lab, > ECS, University of Southampton, > Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 > http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk > http://www.emptech.info > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Catalina Colaci > Sent: 23 June 2009 18:25 > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Lecture capture systems > > Hi, > Have you looked at "Liberated Learning"? the link to the consortium is > http://www.liberatedlearning.com/consortium/index.shtml > > Overview > The Liberated Learning concept is based on two interrelated > applications: using speech recognition technology to automatically > transcribe spoken language and display it as readable text and; using > speech recognition to produce accessible, multimedia transcripts. The > Liberated Learning concept undergoes continuous development and > refinement by members of the Liberated Learning Consortium, a group of > international university and industry partners working to improve > information accessibility through speech recognition technology. > > I hope this is helpful > > Catalina Colaci , Coordinator > > Learning Assistance Centre > > Support Services for Students with Disabilities > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Gerry Nies > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:28 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Lecture capture systems > > We are looking at lecture capture systems to be used on our campus. I > know that they are being used in an number of schools. > > If you can give me/us some information on accessibility it would be > greatly appreciated. I would be interested in both end user and actual > production. > > Thanks > > Gerry Nies > University of North Dakota > > Gerry Nies > > Information Technology Tech > > University of North Dakota > Disability Services for Students > McCannel Hall Room 190 > 2891 2nd Avenue North Stop 9040 > Grand Forks, ND 58202-9040 > (701)777-3827 > (701)777-4170 FAX > gerrynies@mail.und.edu > > > STOP! > This message is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient(s) > and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure > under applicable law. If you are NOT the intended recipient(s), you are > notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message > is strictly prohibited. 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Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lecture capture systems In-Reply-To: <4A424EC2.2080906@mcmail.maricopa.edu> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com><005901c9f34f$e92c99b0$bb85cd10$@com><6.0.3.0.2.20090622215543.024ad970@pop.gmail.com><001201c9f3ec$852a67b0$8f7f3710$@com><0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C03A59049@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <4A40BC54.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> <003201c9f4a7$9688e700$c39ab500$@info> <4A424EC2.2080906@mcmail.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <006201c9f4fa$deed6130$9cc82390$@info> Hello Wink - hope all is well and we can catch up at AHG - must book my flight if there are still pennies left in the bank! ;>) I am not sure the original question stated how lectures were to be captured, but I was rather assuming it would be audio and/or video and even something like Impatica (http://www.impatica.com/) used on our campus. Any audio file or video can be used with Synote as the system merely points to the original file and does not require conversion to another format. Hope this helps and as I work with Mike Wald (whose team has developed the application) I can always pass on any more complex questions! Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: Wink Harner [mailto:wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu] Sent: 24 June 2009 17:05 To: ea@emptech.info; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Lecture capture systems EA I missed the earlier post on this. What system was used to capture the lectures? I'll follow through with your suggestion below and use this for some "cool stuff" faculty & media services training. Blessings, Wink E.A. Draffan wrote: > There is also Synote that is free to use at > > www.synote.org > > It can accessibly replay lectures captured by any system including > those captured by members of the liberated learning consortium using > speech recognition captioning > > Synote is being used in the European Net4Voice project > > http://www.liberatedlearning.com/projects/net4voice.shtml > > It has also been nominated for an award and this page has more information. > > http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/about/news/2586 > > > > Best wishes E.A. > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > Learning Societies Lab, > ECS, University of Southampton, > Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 > http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk > http://www.emptech.info > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On Behalf Of Catalina Colaci > Sent: 23 June 2009 18:25 > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Lecture capture systems > > Hi, > Have you looked at "Liberated Learning"? the link to the consortium is > http://www.liberatedlearning.com/consortium/index.shtml > > Overview > The Liberated Learning concept is based on two interrelated > applications: using speech recognition technology to automatically > transcribe spoken language and display it as readable text and; using > speech recognition to produce accessible, multimedia transcripts. The > Liberated Learning concept undergoes continuous development and > refinement by members of the Liberated Learning Consortium, a group of > international university and industry partners working to improve > information accessibility through speech recognition technology. > > I hope this is helpful > > Catalina Colaci , Coordinator > > Learning Assistance Centre > > Support Services for Students with Disabilities > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On Behalf Of Gerry Nies > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:28 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Lecture capture systems > > We are looking at lecture capture systems to be used on our campus. I > know that they are being used in an number of schools. > > If you can give me/us some information on accessibility it would be > greatly appreciated. I would be interested in both end user and actual > production. > > Thanks > > Gerry Nies > University of North Dakota > > Gerry Nies > > Information Technology Tech > > University of North Dakota > Disability Services for Students > McCannel Hall Room 190 > 2891 2nd Avenue North Stop 9040 > Grand Forks, ND 58202-9040 > (701)777-3827 > (701)777-4170 FAX > gerrynies@mail.und.edu > > > STOP! > This message is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient(s) > and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from > disclosure under applicable law. If you are NOT the intended > recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or > copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this > message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the > sender at the above mentioned e-mail or telephone number and delete > this e-mail from your computer > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.89/2197 - Release Date: > 06/23/09 05:54:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.90/2198 - Release Date: 06/23/09 17:54:00 From scottk44 at gmail.com Wed Jun 24 11:55:10 2009 From: scottk44 at gmail.com (Scott Kupferman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible File Sharing Program Message-ID: <95e86fdd0906241155g4f6f47ebta12b5d1f5676ecac@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, I had an inquiry yesterday from our local blind/low vision center asking if there is a file sharing program (preferably free) that is screen reader accessible. 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URL: From alpuzz at msu.edu Wed Jun 24 12:16:51 2009 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Open Office References: <20090624145708.BLU16818@mserve1.baker.edu> Message-ID: Actually, yes. there is basically very limited access to Open Office for Windows based screen readers. In Windows, accessibility of the Java platform has never been fully developed. The Java access bridge is available, and Window-Eyes has their own method for dealing with access to Java apps; but for all practical purposes, Open Office still isn't working. Although things may evolve in the future,as a screen reader user myself, I currently wouldn't even consider trying to get any serious work done using open Office under the Windows platform. Of course, the story is completely different under Linux, and things are currently getting better in Mac OS as well; but not sure how much that helps you. Al ________________________________ From: Chip Evans [mailto:hevans01@baker.edu] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:57 PM To: DSSHE Listserv; ICU Listserv; MI-AHEAD Listserv; Athen Listserv Subject: Open Office Hi Listservers, I just got a message from our Dean of Technology stating that the school is considering moving from Microsoft Office to Open Office. I was wondering if anybody knew of any compatibility issues that may exist between Open Office and any assistive technology? Chip Evans Academic Advisor Special Needs/Disability Services Coordinator Baker College of Allen Park 313-425-3738 chip.evans@baker.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Wed Jun 24 12:31:13 2009 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Open Office In-Reply-To: <20090624145708.BLU16818@mserve1.baker.edu> References: <20090624145708.BLU16818@mserve1.baker.edu> Message-ID: The last time I tried using Open Office with JAWS (about a year ago), it was not a good experience. I would not recommend it as an industry solution for a school that is supporting students and/or employees with disabilities. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Chip Evans Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:57 PM To: DSSHE Listserv; ICU Listserv; MI-AHEAD Listserv; Athen Listserv Subject: [Athen] Open Office Hi Listservers, I just got a message from our Dean of Technology stating that the school is considering moving from Microsoft Office to Open Office. I was wondering if anybody knew of any compatibility issues that may exist between Open Office and any assistive technology? Chip Evans Academic Advisor Special Needs/Disability Services Coordinator Baker College of Allen Park 313-425-3738 chip.evans@baker.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ea at emptech.info Wed Jun 24 13:04:52 2009 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Open Office In-Reply-To: <20090624145708.BLU16818@mserve1.baker.edu> References: <20090624145708.BLU16818@mserve1.baker.edu> Message-ID: <007401c9f507$0a39dbf0$1ead93d0$@info> I would also love to learn more about this topic. Webaim have an article http://www.webaim.org/techniques/ooo/ We have found that there are issues with tables especially if they are large - over two pages and save in Word - when they go into Open Office sometimes only one section of the table survives. Headers seem to also be an issue when reading larger tables. Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. 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In addition to the Java Access Bridge, remember to also enable the "Support Assistive Technology tool" option in Open Office (located at Tools > Options > Accessibility). While this certainly does not make Open Office fully accessible, it is somewhat better. Still not more accessible or usable than MS Word though... Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Scott Kupferman Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Accessible File Sharing Program Hi All, I had an inquiry yesterday from our local blind/low vision center asking if there is a file sharing program (preferably free) that is screen reader accessible. Has anyone come across such a program? They tried Google Docs, but ran into accessibility problems. Thanks in advance, Scott Sonoma State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Wed Jun 24 18:03:28 2009 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Open Office In-Reply-To: <4A429FA4.4020800@stanford.edu> References: <20090624145708.BLU16818@mserve1.baker.edu> <4A429FA4.4020800@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <00df01c9f530$c0fcd440$42f67cc0$@com> Hello all, We have to keep in mind that MS Office Word has been heavily scripted by both Freedomscientific and GW Micro by using the object model exposed by Word. No work of that kind has been done for Open Office. There are some significant issues when it comes to Java through the Access bridge. The Window-Eyes solution is slightly better but not a lot. I've had far more luck running Open Office on the Mac with Voice Over than under Windows. I find Open Office on the Mac quite slow for some reason. I've not tested this but have recently heard some excellent reviews of Star Office with Orca. If I get a chance to test this, I'll report back. Regards, Pratik -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:50 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Open Office > there is basically very limited access to Open Office > for Windows based screen readers. In addition to the Java Access Bridge, remember to also enable the "Support Assistive Technology tool" option in Open Office (located at Tools > Options > Accessibility). While this certainly does not make Open Office fully accessible, it is somewhat better. Still not more accessible or usable than MS Word though... Take care, Sean From pratikp1 at gmail.com Thu Jun 25 14:13:03 2009 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [leadership] Arizona State suit Message-ID: <026d01c9f5d9$bab93ca0$302bb5e0$@com> -----Original Message----- From: slovering [mailto:slovering@acb.org] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:04 PM To: leadership@acb.org Cc: announce@acb.org Subject: [leadership] Arizona State suit For further information, contact: Mitch Pomerantz, President (626) 372-5150 mitch.pomerantz@earthlink.net The American Council of the Blind Joins with the National Federation of the Blind In Suit Against Arizona State University Suit Seeks to Prohibit the University from Using Inaccessible e-Book Readers like the Kindle DX The American Council of the Blind (ACB) joined with the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) in filing suit today in federal court against Arizona State University. The suit seeks an injunction to prohibit the university from using the new Kindle DX e-book reader produced by Amazon.com, Inc., because it is not accessible to blind students. This suit is brought on behalf of blind students at Arizona State University who will be prevented from independently accessing their own textbooks on the Kindle DX if this program takes effect in the fall as planned. Complainants allege that this is blatant discrimination against students who are blind, as well as a violation of Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, as amended, along with the Americans with Disabilities Act. Reading books on the Kindle DX is not an option for students who are blind. Operation of this device requires vision, since the menus are only displayed visually. When Arizona State University announced its intent to require students to use this device to access class materials, it essentially barred blind students from their programs. Darrell Shandrow, a blind student pursuing a degree in journalism at ASU, said: "Not having access to the advanced reading features of the Kindle DX - including the ability to download books and course materials, add my own bookmarks and notes, and look up supplemental information instantly on the Internet when I encounter it in my reading -will lock me out of this new technology and put me and other blind students at a competitive disadvantage relative to our sighted peers. While my peers will have instant access to their course materials in electronic form, I will still have to wait weeks or months for accessible texts to be prepared for me, and these texts will not provide the access and features available to other students. That is why I am standing up for myself and with other blind Americans to end this blatant discrimination." Rebecca Bridges, president of the National Alliance of Blind Students (NABS), a special-interest affiliate of ACB, said: "NABS is disappointed in Arizona State University's decision to endorse a solution that is not accessible to all of their students. By requiring that textbooks be accessed on the Kindle DX book reader, this public institution has placed a barrier in front of its blind and visually impaired students that does not exist for their sighted colleagues." Mitch Pomerantz, president of the American Council of the Blind, commented: "ACB's involvement in this litigation is based upon our concern that to permit, unchallenged, colleges and universities to require students to purchase the Kindle in order to access all materials for a particular class is blatantly discriminatory toward blind and visually impaired students, and sets a dangerous precedent which other institutions of higher learning could choose to follow. We must vigorously oppose any such initiative until such time as Amazon, Inc. begins manufacturing Kindle products with full accessibility. To do anything less would be to turn our backs on the thousands of young blind and visually impaired men and women who are seeking to be productive, contributing members of society by obtaining a college education." About the American Council of the Blind The American Council of the Blind is a national membership organization. Its members are blind, visually impaired, and fully sighted individuals who are concerned about the dignity and well-being of blind people throughout the nation. Formed in 1961, ACB is one of the largest organizations of blind people in the world, with more than 70 state and special-interest affiliates and a nationwide network of chapters and members spanning the globe. For more information about the American Council of the Blind, contact: Melanie Brunson, Executive Director, American Council of the Blind, 2200 Wilson Blvd., Suite 650, Arlington, VA 22201; phone (202) 467-5081 or toll-free, 1-800-424-8666; or visit the web site, www.acb.org. From marks at mso.umt.edu Thu Jun 25 14:43:20 2009 From: marks at mso.umt.edu (Marks, Jim) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Disabled student stats In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20090618142048.02376638@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090618142048.02376638@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14BCA38CB48BE940AB983D950061FA7A019EEB0D@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> The US government only recently decided to count students with disabilities in post-secondary education with the adoption of the Higher Education Opportunity Act of 2008. Previously, the most reliable data came from HEATH when the American Council on Education owned the service in 1998 and before. Exactly how students will be counted remains to be determined because the regulations to the HEOA have not been published yet. ----- Jim Marks Director of Disability Services University of Montana jim.marks@umontana.edu http://www.umt.edu/disability ----- -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 3:23 PM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Disabled student stats Looking for recent stats on numbers of disabled students in higher ed either total numbers or better total with some break-down. I have always found Google answering almost all my questions but not this time. Actually I ought to have this info on my computer but can't find it. Spent 3-4 hours and now I am confessing my ignorance and asking for help especially if you have a citation too. Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From hkramer.atsol at gmail.com Thu Jun 25 15:20:12 2009 From: hkramer.atsol at gmail.com (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: Hello All: It seems the consensus is definitely to not have competition during the round-table discussions. I think I have a solution. Dedicate 9:15 - 10:15 a.m. on Friday morning, after the first round of sessions, to round-table discussion. There's a 15 minute break before and a 15 minute break on either end, after and before the previous and next round of workshops. This would seem to provide adequate dedicated time for networking and round-table discussion. And by Friday, folks might welcome a break from the workshops. Having it during lunch on Thursday, as per Jon's and Hadi's suggestion, also seems workable but I'd like to keep the keynote lunch as it is this year. But perhaps this is the way to go next year. Let me know what you think. The next step is to identify round-table topics and someone to perhaps lead or at least facilitate discussion. After all, we don't want anarchy. :-) Thanks, Howard On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: > I am all for doing this, but they should be separate from presentations > so people don't have to choose. And if the conference can be extended > by a day on the front end, then I can get two weeks in Colorado > straight, as the Educause Conference I need to attend this year is in > Boulder, as well, the week before AHG. > > Yes, that's quite selfish on my part, but I'd rather not fly home in > between, instead use my weekend to learn to ski or something else > equally useful. (No snarky comments from the peanut gallery, if you > please!) > > Susan Kelmer > Adaptive Technology Specialist/ > Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms > St. Louis Community College - Meramec > 314-984-7951 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, -Howard On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Howard Kramer wrote: > Hello All: > > It seems the consensus is definitely to not have competition during the > round-table discussions. I think I have a solution. Dedicate 9:15 - 10:15 > a.m. on Friday morning, after the first round of sessions, to round-table > discussion. There's a 15 minute break before and a 15 minute break on either > end, after and before the previous and next round of workshops. This would > seem to provide adequate dedicated time for networking and round-table > discussion. And by Friday, folks might welcome a break from the workshops. > > Having it during lunch on Thursday, as per Jon's and Hadi's suggestion, > also seems workable but I'd like to keep the keynote lunch as it is this > year. But perhaps this is the way to go next year. > > Let me know what you think. The next step is to identify round-table topics > and someone to perhaps lead or at least facilitate discussion. After all, we > don't want anarchy. :-) > > Thanks, > Howard > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: > >> I am all for doing this, but they should be separate from presentations >> so people don't have to choose. And if the conference can be extended >> by a day on the front end, then I can get two weeks in Colorado >> straight, as the Educause Conference I need to attend this year is in >> Boulder, as well, the week before AHG. >> >> Yes, that's quite selfish on my part, but I'd rather not fly home in >> between, instead use my weekend to learn to ski or something else >> equally useful. 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URL: From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Thu Jun 25 16:19:38 2009 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 Message-ID: <20090625171938.AJV29206@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Hello All: It seems the consensus is definitely to not have competition during the round-table discussions. I think I have a solution. Dedicate 9:15 - 10:15 a.m. on Friday morning, after the first round of sessions, to round-table discussion. There's a 15 minute break on either end, after and before the previous and next round of workshops. This would seem to provide adequate dedicated time for networking and round-table discussion. And by Friday, folks might welcome a break from the workshops. Having it during lunch on Thursday, as per Jon's and Hadi's suggestion, also seems workable but I'd like to keep the keynote lunch as it is this year. But perhaps this is the way to go next year. Let me know what you think. The next step is to identify round-table topics and someone to perhaps lead or at least facilitate discussion. After all, we don't want anarchy. :-) Thanks, Howard From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Thu Jun 25 16:20:25 2009 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 Message-ID: <20090625172025.AJV29223@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Now that I've actually placed the second round proposals into the schedule, it looks like I could fit another round-table slot into 3:30 - 4:30 on Thursday, just before the reception in the exhibit area. It would run up against 2 labs however. Let me know what you think. Is it worth it to have a second partial slot for round-tables? [Please make sure to read my first message below if you haven't already done this. Otherwise, you won't know what I'm talking about - I'm waiting for the smart replies to this statement]. Thanks, From pratikp1 at gmail.com Thu Jun 25 16:50:43 2009 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <02e001c9f5ef$c1bdcc80$45396580$@com> Second round? What Second round? (Just kidding!) I think another set of round tables, despite coming in direct competition with the two labs would give us a chance to split the Friday morning round tables and give more people the opportunity to attend more than one round table discussion. Regards, Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:10 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 Now that I've actually placed the second round proposals into the schedule, it looks like I could fit another round-table slot into 3:30 - 4:30 on Thursday, just before the reception in the exhibit area. It would run up against 2 labs however. Let me know what you think. Is it worth it to have a second partial slot for round-tables? [Please make sure to read my first message below if you haven't already done this. Otherwise, you won't know what I'm talking about - I'm waiting for the smart replies to this statement]. Thanks, -Howard On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Howard Kramer wrote: Hello All: It seems the consensus is definitely to not have competition during the round-table discussions. I think I have a solution. Dedicate 9:15 - 10:15 a.m. on Friday morning, after the first round of sessions, to round-table discussion. There's a 15 minute break before and a 15 minute break on either end, after and before the previous and next round of workshops. This would seem to provide adequate dedicated time for networking and round-table discussion. And by Friday, folks might welcome a break from the workshops. Having it during lunch on Thursday, as per Jon's and Hadi's suggestion, also seems workable but I'd like to keep the keynote lunch as it is this year. But perhaps this is the way to go next year. Let me know what you think. The next step is to identify round-table topics and someone to perhaps lead or at least facilitate discussion. After all, we don't want anarchy. :-) Thanks, Howard On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: I am all for doing this, but they should be separate from presentations so people don't have to choose. And if the conference can be extended by a day on the front end, then I can get two weeks in Colorado straight, as the Educause Conference I need to attend this year is in Boulder, as well, the week before AHG. Yes, that's quite selfish on my part, but I'd rather not fly home in between, instead use my weekend to learn to ski or something else equally useful. (No snarky comments from the peanut gallery, if you please!) Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Peter Korn Accessibility Architect & Principal Engineer, Sun Microsystems, Inc.Sheryll Porter College of Staten Island 2800 Victory Boulevard Staten Island, NY 10314 (c): 718/614-0754 -----Original Message----- From: "Chip Evans" Sent 6/24/2009 2:57:08 PM To: "DSSHE Listserv" , "ICU Listserv" , "MI-AHEAD Listserv" , "Athen Listserv" Subject: [Athen] Open Office Hi Listservers, I just got a message from our Dean of Technology stating that the school is considering moving from Microsoft Office to Open Office. I was wondering if anybody knew of any compatibility issues that may exist between Open Office and any assistive technology?Chip Evans Academic Advisor Special Needs/Disability Services Coordinator Baker College of Allen Park 313-425-3738 chip.evans@baker.edu_______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.orghttp://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ea at emptech.info Fri Jun 26 05:40:30 2009 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Are any of these lecture capture system more accessible than others? In-Reply-To: <4A41E489.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com><005901c9f34f$e92c99b0$bb85cd10$@com><6.0.3.0.2.20090622215543.024ad970@pop.gmail.com><001201c9f3ec$852a67b0$8f7f3710$@com><0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C03A59049@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <4A40BC54.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> <003201c9f4a7$9688e700$c39ab500$@info> <4A41E489.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> Message-ID: <012f01c9f65b$4bd50bc0$e37f2340$@info> Educause - Lecture Capture Systems: Are They Worth It? http://www.educause.edu/Resources/LectureCaptureSystemsAreTheyWo/163626 They seem to be using Media Site and Tegrity and retention improves but sadly no data on whether the systems are accessible. We have used Impatica and Camtasia and even Wink and Camstudio in conjunction with other software to produce multimedia outputs, but accurate simultaneous transcription remains the main issue. I am wondering if anyone has tried CaptionSync? http://www.automaticsync.com/caption/lecturecapture.htm Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: Gerry Nies [mailto:gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu] Sent: 24 June 2009 14:32 To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'; ea@emptech.info Subject: Are any of these lecture capture system more accessible than others? >From what the salespeople said these systems are being used by may schools. So to be more specific in my request. We are looking at Panopto, Echo 360, Media Site, Apple Podcast Producer, Tegrity, Accordent to be used for lecture capture at our university. I have been asked to get more information on them and how accessible they are. Are there others that we should look at? Have you used any of these systems? What are the concerns for their use by our students? Thanks Gerry Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.90/2198 - Release Date: 06/23/09 17:54:00 From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Fri Jun 26 05:48:15 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 In-Reply-To: <20090625172025.AJV29223@riddler.int.colorado.edu> References: <20090625172025.AJV29223@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: I think it depends on what the labs are. I really don't want to choose between a useful lab and an equally useful roundtable networking session. Decisions, decisions! Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From tft at u.washington.edu Fri Jun 26 07:18:03 2009 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <004401c9f668$eba8a6e0$c2f9f4a0$@washington.edu> Hi Howard, The Friday morning timeslot for roundtable discussions sounds perfect! However, I'm personally not as excited about the additional Thursday slot since you would still have a conflict with sessions. Even if it's only two labs, that might still prevent some people from participating in their preferred roundtable discussion. Terry Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:10 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 Now that I've actually placed the second round proposals into the schedule, it looks like I could fit another round-table slot into 3:30 - 4:30 on Thursday, just before the reception in the exhibit area. It would run up against 2 labs however. Let me know what you think. Is it worth it to have a second partial slot for round-tables? [Please make sure to read my first message below if you haven't already done this. Otherwise, you won't know what I'm talking about - I'm waiting for the smart replies to this statement]. Thanks, -Howard On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Howard Kramer wrote: Hello All: It seems the consensus is definitely to not have competition during the round-table discussions. I think I have a solution. Dedicate 9:15 - 10:15 a.m. on Friday morning, after the first round of sessions, to round-table discussion. There's a 15 minute break before and a 15 minute break on either end, after and before the previous and next round of workshops. This would seem to provide adequate dedicated time for networking and round-table discussion. And by Friday, folks might welcome a break from the workshops. Having it during lunch on Thursday, as per Jon's and Hadi's suggestion, also seems workable but I'd like to keep the keynote lunch as it is this year. But perhaps this is the way to go next year. Let me know what you think. The next step is to identify round-table topics and someone to perhaps lead or at least facilitate discussion. After all, we don't want anarchy. :-) Thanks, Howard On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: I am all for doing this, but they should be separate from presentations so people don't have to choose. And if the conference can be extended by a day on the front end, then I can get two weeks in Colorado straight, as the Educause Conference I need to attend this year is in Boulder, as well, the week before AHG. Yes, that's quite selfish on my part, but I'd rather not fly home in between, instead use my weekend to learn to ski or something else equally useful. (No snarky comments from the peanut gallery, if you please!) 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URL: From hkramer.atsol at gmail.com Fri Jun 26 07:59:15 2009 From: hkramer.atsol at gmail.com (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 In-Reply-To: <004401c9f668$eba8a6e0$c2f9f4a0$@washington.edu> References: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> <004401c9f668$eba8a6e0$c2f9f4a0$@washington.edu> Message-ID: Ok, that's two against, one for, the extra Friday round-table discussion which partially conflicts with two labs. -Howard On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Terrill Thompson wrote: > Hi Howard, > > > > The Friday morning timeslot for roundtable discussions sounds perfect! > However, I'm personally not as excited about the additional Thursday slot > since you would still have a conflict with sessions. Even if it's only two > labs, that might still prevent some people from participating in their > preferred roundtable discussion. > > > > Terry > > > > Terrill Thompson > Technology Accessibility Specialist > DO-IT, Accessible Technology > UW Technology Services > University of Washington > tft@u.washington.edu > 206/221-4168 > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] *On > Behalf Of *Howard Kramer > *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:10 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 > > > > Now that I've actually placed the second round proposals into the schedule, > it looks like I could fit another round-table slot into 3:30 - 4:30 on > Thursday, just before the reception in the exhibit area. It would run up > against 2 labs however. Let me know what you think. Is it worth it to have a > second partial slot for round-tables? [Please make sure to read my first > message below if you haven't already done this. Otherwise, you won't know > what I'm talking about - I'm waiting for the smart replies to this > statement]. > > Thanks, > > -Howard > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Howard Kramer > wrote: > > Hello All: > > It seems the consensus is definitely to not have competition during the > round-table discussions. I think I have a solution. Dedicate 9:15 - 10:15 > a.m. on Friday morning, after the first round of sessions, to round-table > discussion. There's a 15 minute break before and a 15 minute break on either > end, after and before the previous and next round of workshops. This would > seem to provide adequate dedicated time for networking and round-table > discussion. And by Friday, folks might welcome a break from the workshops. > > Having it during lunch on Thursday, as per Jon's and Hadi's suggestion, > also seems workable but I'd like to keep the keynote lunch as it is this > year. But perhaps this is the way to go next year. > > Let me know what you think. The next step is to identify round-table topics > and someone to perhaps lead or at least facilitate discussion. After all, we > don't want anarchy. :-) > > Thanks, > Howard > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. > wrote: > > I am all for doing this, but they should be separate from presentations > so people don't have to choose. And if the conference can be extended > by a day on the front end, then I can get two weeks in Colorado > straight, as the Educause Conference I need to attend this year is in > Boulder, as well, the week before AHG. > > Yes, that's quite selfish on my part, but I'd rather not fly home in > between, instead use my weekend to learn to ski or something else > equally useful. (No snarky comments from the peanut gallery, if you > please!) > > Susan Kelmer > Adaptive Technology Specialist/ > Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms > St. Louis Community College - Meramec > 314-984-7951 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > -- > Howard Kramer > AHG Conference Coordinator > Access Specialist > 303-492-8672 > fax: 492-5601 > > > > > -- > Howard Kramer > AHG Conference Coordinator > Access Specialist > 303-492-8672 > fax: 492-5601 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer.atsol at gmail.com Fri Jun 26 08:03:16 2009 From: hkramer.atsol at gmail.com (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> <004401c9f668$eba8a6e0$c2f9f4a0$@washington.edu> Message-ID: Actually, I should have said the extra round-table on Thursday, not Friday. The Friday 9:15 a.m. round-table discussion time, exclusive to that activity, seems agreed to by everyone at this point. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Howard Kramer wrote: > Ok, that's two against, one for, the extra Friday round-table discussion > which partially conflicts with two labs. > > -Howard > > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Terrill Thompson wrote: > >> Hi Howard, >> >> >> >> The Friday morning timeslot for roundtable discussions sounds perfect! >> However, I'm personally not as excited about the additional Thursday slot >> since you would still have a conflict with sessions. Even if it's only two >> labs, that might still prevent some people from participating in their >> preferred roundtable discussion. >> >> >> >> Terry >> >> >> >> Terrill Thompson >> Technology Accessibility Specialist >> DO-IT, Accessible Technology >> UW Technology Services >> University of Washington >> tft@u.washington.edu >> 206/221-4168 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] *On >> Behalf Of *Howard Kramer >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:10 PM >> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network >> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG >> 2009 >> >> >> >> Now that I've actually placed the second round proposals into the >> schedule, it looks like I could fit another round-table slot into 3:30 - >> 4:30 on Thursday, just before the reception in the exhibit area. It would >> run up against 2 labs however. Let me know what you think. Is it worth it to >> have a second partial slot for round-tables? [Please make sure to read my >> first message below if you haven't already done this. Otherwise, you won't >> know what I'm talking about - I'm waiting for the smart replies to this >> statement]. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Howard >> >> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Howard Kramer >> wrote: >> >> Hello All: >> >> It seems the consensus is definitely to not have competition during the >> round-table discussions. I think I have a solution. Dedicate 9:15 - 10:15 >> a.m. on Friday morning, after the first round of sessions, to round-table >> discussion. There's a 15 minute break before and a 15 minute break on either >> end, after and before the previous and next round of workshops. This would >> seem to provide adequate dedicated time for networking and round-table >> discussion. And by Friday, folks might welcome a break from the workshops. >> >> Having it during lunch on Thursday, as per Jon's and Hadi's suggestion, >> also seems workable but I'd like to keep the keynote lunch as it is this >> year. But perhaps this is the way to go next year. >> >> Let me know what you think. The next step is to identify round-table >> topics and someone to perhaps lead or at least facilitate discussion. After >> all, we don't want anarchy. :-) >> >> Thanks, >> Howard >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. >> wrote: >> >> I am all for doing this, but they should be separate from presentations >> so people don't have to choose. And if the conference can be extended >> by a day on the front end, then I can get two weeks in Colorado >> straight, as the Educause Conference I need to attend this year is in >> Boulder, as well, the week before AHG. >> >> Yes, that's quite selfish on my part, but I'd rather not fly home in >> between, instead use my weekend to learn to ski or something else >> equally useful. (No snarky comments from the peanut gallery, if you >> please!) >> >> Susan Kelmer >> Adaptive Technology Specialist/ >> Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms >> St. Louis Community College - Meramec >> 314-984-7951 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Howard Kramer >> AHG Conference Coordinator >> Access Specialist >> 303-492-8672 >> fax: 492-5601 >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Howard Kramer >> AHG Conference Coordinator >> Access Specialist >> 303-492-8672 >> fax: 492-5601 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> > > > -- > Howard Kramer > AHG Conference Coordinator > Access Specialist > 303-492-8672 > fax: 492-5601 > -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tft at u.washington.edu Fri Jun 26 10:30:37 2009 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Possible EDUCAUSE post-conference training on accessibility Message-ID: <002101c9f683$d1d92f30$758b8d90$@washington.edu> Hi ATHEN members/subscribers, I just posted the following message to the EDUCAUSE IT Accessibility Constituent Group list, seeking input on a possible intensive training session on Monday November 9, bridging the EDUCAUSE and Accessing Higher Ground conferences. I'd like feedback from you all too. Please see questions (a) and (b) in the following forwarded message. Thanks! Terry -----Original Message----- From: Terrill Thompson [mailto:tft@u.washington.edu] Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:27 AM To: 'ITACCESS@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU' Subject: Possible EDUCAUSE post-conference training on accessibility Hi All, As most of you know, the EDUCAUSE annual conference is in Denver this year, November 3-6. Conveniently, Accessing Higher Ground (AHG) is the week immediately following EDUCAUSE (November 10-14), and is just up the road from Denver in Westminster, Colorado. AHG is an annual conference hosted by the University of Colorado at Boulder that focuses specifically on IT Accessibility in higher education: http://www.colorado.edu/atconference/ I'm working with AHG organizers to explore the possibility of providing an extra day of intensive training sessions on Monday November 9, catering specifically to EDUCAUSE attendees. Before committing to doing so, we're seeking feedback on the following questions: (a) Would you, or would someone at your institution, be interested in sticking around after EDUCAUSE for a few extra days in Colorado, in order to attend the special AHG pre-conference? (b) If so, what topics would you especially be interested in receiving intensive training on? Thanks! Terry Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Fri Jun 26 10:33:00 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Possible EDUCAUSE post-conference training onaccessibility In-Reply-To: <002101c9f683$d1d92f30$758b8d90$@washington.edu> References: <002101c9f683$d1d92f30$758b8d90$@washington.edu> Message-ID: Please!! If you get this pushed through, I can come to Colorado for two weeks straight, would LOVE that. If we can show there's a bridge, I will get to attend both instead of picking just one or the other! Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Terrill Thompson > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:31 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] FW: Possible EDUCAUSE post-conference training > onaccessibility > > Hi ATHEN members/subscribers, > > I just posted the following message to the EDUCAUSE IT Accessibility > Constituent Group list, seeking input on a possible intensive training > session on Monday November 9, bridging the EDUCAUSE and Accessing > Higher > Ground conferences. I'd like feedback from you all too. Please see > questions > (a) and (b) in the following forwarded message. > > Thanks! > Terry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Terrill Thompson [mailto:tft@u.washington.edu] > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:27 AM > To: 'ITACCESS@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU' > Subject: Possible EDUCAUSE post-conference training on accessibility > > Hi All, > > As most of you know, the EDUCAUSE annual conference is in Denver this > year, > November 3-6. Conveniently, Accessing Higher Ground (AHG) is the week > immediately following EDUCAUSE (November 10-14), and is just up the > road > from Denver in Westminster, Colorado. AHG is an annual conference > hosted by > the University of Colorado at Boulder that focuses specifically on IT > Accessibility in higher education: > > http://www.colorado.edu/atconference/ > > I'm working with AHG organizers to explore the possibility of providing > an > extra day of intensive training sessions on Monday November 9, catering > specifically to EDUCAUSE attendees. Before committing to doing so, > we're > seeking feedback on the following questions: > > (a) Would you, or would someone at your institution, be interested in > sticking around after EDUCAUSE for a few extra days in Colorado, in > order to > attend the special AHG pre-conference? > > (b) If so, what topics would you especially be interested in receiving > intensive training on? > > Thanks! > Terry > > Terrill Thompson > Technology Accessibility Specialist > DO-IT, Accessible Technology > UW Technology Services > University of Washington > tft@u.washington.edu > 206/221-4168 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From alice.anderson at doit.wisc.edu Fri Jun 26 12:34:32 2009 From: alice.anderson at doit.wisc.edu (Alice Anderson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Are any of these lecture capture system more accessible than others? In-Reply-To: <012f01c9f65b$4bd50bc0$e37f2340$@info> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090622083146.0245fb60@pop.gmail.com> <005901c9f34f$e92c99b0$bb85cd10$@com> <6.0.3.0.2.20090622215543.024ad970@pop.gmail.com> <001201c9f3ec$852a67b0$8f7f3710$@com> <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C03A59049@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <4A40BC54.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> <003201c9f4a7$9688e700$c39ab500$@info> <4A41E489.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> <012f01c9f65b$4bd50bc0$e37f2340$@info> Message-ID: E.A. ... We are doing a campus 'beta/pilot test' with Automatic Sync Technologies - hoping to find a campus solution for the many media captioning needs we have. We pre-paid Automatic Sync to purchase X/hrs of transcribing &/or captioning. Several departments are involved, and have sent in files for one or more of the following - Mov, WMV, FLV, DVD, Mediasite (lecture capture), eTEACH (presentation tool), podcast, YouTube, etc. etc.. Files sent to Automatic Sync have ranged from a few minutes to several hours of lecture ... all with excellent results (as of this post). We are about 25% in to the beta project, and are working closely with Automatic Sync to create workflows when needed (e.g., eTEACH, Mediasite) ... and have another beta project for a lecture capture system on the horizon that will be included in this captioning beta. We're building a case for the campus for lower prices from 'quantities- of-scale' ... to save the campus $$$'s by working together ... and more so ... in order to comply with our campus web policy which requires web based video and audio to have captions and transcripts ... we need to have a campus one-stop solution. Stay tuned - we're finding the Automatic Sync website is rich with help documents and information http://www.automaticsync.com/caption/index.htm, and have been incredibly patient and helpful with our many players, questions and comments. Let me know if you have specific questions that I did not address. Best, Alice Alice Anderson TECHNOLOGY ACCESSIBILITY PROGRAM Division of Information Technology (DoIT) University of Wisconsin-Madison 1210 West Dayton Street (3124) Madison, WI 53706 Telephone: 608.262.2129 On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:40 AM, E.A. Draffan wrote: > Educause - Lecture Capture Systems: Are They Worth It? > http://www.educause.edu/Resources/LectureCaptureSystemsAreTheyWo/ > 163626 > > They seem to be using Media Site and Tegrity and retention improves > but > sadly no data on whether the systems are accessible. We have used > Impatica > and Camtasia and even Wink and Camstudio in conjunction with other > software > to produce multimedia outputs, but accurate simultaneous transcription > remains the main issue. > > I am wondering if anyone has tried CaptionSync? > http://www.automaticsync.com/caption/lecturecapture.htm > > Best wishes E.A. > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > Learning Societies Lab, > ECS, University of Southampton, > Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 > http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk > http://www.emptech.info > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gerry Nies [mailto:gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu] > Sent: 24 June 2009 14:32 > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'; ea@emptech.info > Subject: Are any of these lecture capture system more accessible than > others? > >> From what the salespeople said these systems are being used by may >> schools. > > So to be more specific in my request. We are looking at Panopto, > Echo 360, > Media Site, Apple Podcast Producer, Tegrity, Accordent to be used for > lecture capture at our university. I have been asked to get more > information on them and how accessible they are. > > Are there others that we should look at? > > Have you used any of these systems? What are the concerns for their > use by > our students? > > > Thanks > Gerry > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.90/2198 - Release Date: > 06/23/09 > 17:54:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From pat at automaticsync.com Fri Jun 26 13:29:19 2009 From: pat at automaticsync.com (Pat BROGAN) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Response to questions about accessible lecture capture solutions Message-ID: <4A452F9F.8010303@automaticsync.com> EA and Gerry raised some questions about accessible lecture capture options and captioning solutions. Having just come from Educomm it seems like the main sponsors were all lecture capture companies. I'll present some information but expose my bias upfront. I work now for Automatic Sync, the company referenced in the query, and previously worked for echo360. In the context of my role, I did manage the partnership between echo360 and Automatic Sync. Since coming to Automatic Sync I am working with Mediasite, Panopto, and TechSmith. I have worked for years with many universities on accessibility in my former role as VP of education and elearning at Macromedia and written the standards part of The elearning Handbook. Bias out of the way... I wrote a whitepaper "Making Lectures Accessible" which is posted at: http://www.automaticsync.com/caption/echo.htm, along with a research paper for UW Australia on the benefits of lecture capture for students with disabilities. Accessibility really means two different things in the context of acquiring lecture capture systems. In the US, section 508 has a FAR (Federal acquisition regulation) which says that government agencies and organizations receiving funds from the government must buy the most compliant system. This is exposed in the VPAT (vendor product accessibility template). This gets registered with the government at: http://www.section508.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=content&ID=12. The Automatic Sync VPAT is at: http://www.automaticsync.com/caption/govtregs.htm . My understanding is that most of the lecture capture systems are not compliant because of some of the database issues. but their output is or can be made to be compliant through captioning. The consequences of not buying the most compliant system can be economic penalties. This generally focuses on the use of the tool itself--can a disabled person use the lecture capture system? The second and more important aspect is--Is the content the system generates compliant? For the lecture capture vendors, this means that one can navigate with tools other than a mouse, users can control content navigation and flow. But the big challenge is to really make the content accessible, the audio and video need to have synced captions. In the workflow AST generated with our partners, the goal is to schedule a class to be captured and at that time designate that it will be transcribed and captioned, and then have the workflow happen automatically (thought a stenographer does the transcription). Under a department of Ed grant, we looked at how to automate the workflow and unfortunately, the entire process can't be automated now with quality good enough through speech recognition tools. I'll be glad to share information about error rates and comprehension from the research. So our focus was on reducing costs by automating the process, and we offer very competitive prices and very high quality. Once the captions are generated, they are synced with the audio, video and VGA. Users can turn on captions or turn them off. Transcripts can be uploaded and searched in most systems which adds real value in the reusability aspect of content. I could go on and on about how different approaches can work, does this help? From gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu Fri Jun 26 13:36:47 2009 From: gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu (Gerry Nies) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Response to questions about accessible lecture capturesolutions In-Reply-To: <4A452F9F.8010303@automaticsync.com> References: <4A452F9F.8010303@automaticsync.com> Message-ID: <4A44EB0F.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> Pat Thank you very much. At least we are asking the question about accessibility up front and I will be looking at the info that you sent. Thanks Gerry >>> Pat BROGAN 6/26/2009 3:29 PM >>> EA and Gerry raised some questions about accessible lecture capture options and captioning solutions. Having just come from Educomm it seems like the main sponsors were all lecture capture companies. I'll present some information but expose my bias upfront. I work now for Automatic Sync, the company referenced in the query, and previously worked for echo360. In the context of my role, I did manage the partnership between echo360 and Automatic Sync. Since coming to Automatic Sync I am working with Mediasite, Panopto, and TechSmith. I have worked for years with many universities on accessibility in my former role as VP of education and elearning at Macromedia and written the standards part of The elearning Handbook. Bias out of the way... I wrote a whitepaper "Making Lectures Accessible" which is posted at: http://www.automaticsync.com/caption/echo.htm, along with a research paper for UW Australia on the benefits of lecture capture for students with disabilities. Accessibility really means two different things in the context of acquiring lecture capture systems. In the US, section 508 has a FAR (Federal acquisition regulation) which says that government agencies and organizations receiving funds from the government must buy the most compliant system. This is exposed in the VPAT (vendor product accessibility template). This gets registered with the government at: http://www.section508.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=content&ID=12. The Automatic Sync VPAT is at: http://www.automaticsync.com/caption/govtregs.htm . My understanding is that most of the lecture capture systems are not compliant because of some of the database issues. but their output is or can be made to be compliant through captioning. The consequences of not buying the most compliant system can be economic penalties. This generally focuses on the use of the tool itself--can a disabled person use the lecture capture system? The second and more important aspect is--Is the content the system generates compliant? For the lecture capture vendors, this means that one can navigate with tools other than a mouse, users can control content navigation and flow. But the big challenge is to really make the content accessible, the audio and video need to have synced captions. In the workflow AST generated with our partners, the goal is to schedule a class to be captured and at that time designate that it will be transcribed and captioned, and then have the workflow happen automatically (thought a stenographer does the transcription). Under a department of Ed grant, we looked at how to automate the workflow and unfortunately, the entire process can't be automated now with quality good enough through speech recognition tools. I'll be glad to share information about error rates and comprehension from the research. So our focus was on reducing costs by automating the process, and we offer very competitive prices and very high quality. Once the captions are generated, they are synced with the audio, video and VGA. Users can turn on captions or turn them off. Transcripts can be uploaded and searched in most systems which adds real value in the reusability aspect of content. I could go on and on about how different approaches can work, does this help? _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ea at emptech.info Fri Jun 26 15:29:38 2009 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Response to questions about accessible lecture capturesolutions In-Reply-To: <4A44EB0F.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> References: <4A452F9F.8010303@automaticsync.com> <4A44EB0F.5B96.00E0.0@mail.und.nodak.edu> Message-ID: <001c01c9f6ad$985d8290$c91887b0$@info> Thank you so much for all the information - what a wonderful list! It is all so helpful and Alice I really look forward to hearing how it all goes! Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gerry Nies Sent: 26 June 2009 21:37 To: Athen@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] Response to questions about accessible lecture capturesolutions Pat Thank you very much. At least we are asking the question about accessibility up front and I will be looking at the info that you sent. Thanks Gerry >>> Pat BROGAN 6/26/2009 3:29 PM >>> EA and Gerry raised some questions about accessible lecture capture options and captioning solutions. Having just come from Educomm it seems like the main sponsors were all lecture capture companies. I'll present some information but expose my bias upfront. I work now for Automatic Sync, the company referenced in the query, and previously worked for echo360. In the context of my role, I did manage the partnership between echo360 and Automatic Sync. Since coming to Automatic Sync I am working with Mediasite, Panopto, and TechSmith. I have worked for years with many universities on accessibility in my former role as VP of education and elearning at Macromedia and written the standards part of The elearning Handbook. Bias out of the way... I wrote a whitepaper "Making Lectures Accessible" which is posted at: http://www.automaticsync.com/caption/echo.htm, along with a research paper for UW Australia on the benefits of lecture capture for students with disabilities. Accessibility really means two different things in the context of acquiring lecture capture systems. In the US, section 508 has a FAR (Federal acquisition regulation) which says that government agencies and organizations receiving funds from the government must buy the most compliant system. This is exposed in the VPAT (vendor product accessibility template). This gets registered with the government at: http://www.section508.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=content&ID=12. The Automatic Sync VPAT is at: http://www.automaticsync.com/caption/govtregs.htm . My understanding is that most of the lecture capture systems are not compliant because of some of the database issues. but their output is or can be made to be compliant through captioning. The consequences of not buying the most compliant system can be economic penalties. This generally focuses on the use of the tool itself--can a disabled person use the lecture capture system? The second and more important aspect is--Is the content the system generates compliant? For the lecture capture vendors, this means that one can navigate with tools other than a mouse, users can control content navigation and flow. But the big challenge is to really make the content accessible, the audio and video need to have synced captions. In the workflow AST generated with our partners, the goal is to schedule a class to be captured and at that time designate that it will be transcribed and captioned, and then have the workflow happen automatically (thought a stenographer does the transcription). Under a department of Ed grant, we looked at how to automate the workflow and unfortunately, the entire process can't be automated now with quality good enough through speech recognition tools. I'll be glad to share information about error rates and comprehension from the research. So our focus was on reducing costs by automating the process, and we offer very competitive prices and very high quality. Once the captions are generated, they are synced with the audio, video and VGA. Users can turn on captions or turn them off. Transcripts can be uploaded and searched in most systems which adds real value in the reusability aspect of content. I could go on and on about how different approaches can work, does this help? _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.92/2203 - Release Date: 06/26/09 05:53:00 From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Mon Jun 29 05:25:24 2009 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:33 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: Howard, This Sounds like a good idea to me. I think trying the lunch idea next year would be good, then you can see which one worked best. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:20 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 Hello All: It seems the consensus is definitely to not have competition during the round-table discussions. I think I have a solution. Dedicate 9:15 - 10:15 a.m. on Friday morning, after the first round of sessions, to round-table discussion. There's a 15 minute break before and a 15 minute break on either end, after and before the previous and next round of workshops. This would seem to provide adequate dedicated time for networking and round-table discussion. And by Friday, folks might welcome a break from the workshops. Having it during lunch on Thursday, as per Jon's and Hadi's suggestion, also seems workable but I'd like to keep the keynote lunch as it is this year. But perhaps this is the way to go next year. Let me know what you think. The next step is to identify round-table topics and someone to perhaps lead or at least facilitate discussion. After all, we don't want anarchy. :-) Thanks, Howard On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. > wrote: I am all for doing this, but they should be separate from presentations so people don't have to choose. And if the conference can be extended by a day on the front end, then I can get two weeks in Colorado straight, as the Educause Conference I need to attend this year is in Boulder, as well, the week before AHG. Yes, that's quite selfish on my part, but I'd rather not fly home in between, instead use my weekend to learn to ski or something else equally useful. (No snarky comments from the peanut gallery, if you please!) Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Mon Jun 29 05:27:02 2009 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:33 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20090615112956.AJR29126@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: Howard, May Maybe we should see how many round tables we need to see if there is enough for a second session. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:10 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 Now that I've actually placed the second round proposals into the schedule, it looks like I could fit another round-table slot into 3:30 - 4:30 on Thursday, just before the reception in the exhibit area. It would run up against 2 labs however. Let me know what you think. Is it worth it to have a second partial slot for round-tables? [Please make sure to read my first message below if you haven't already done this. Otherwise, you won't know what I'm talking about - I'm waiting for the smart replies to this statement]. Thanks, -Howard On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Howard Kramer > wrote: Hello All: It seems the consensus is definitely to not have competition during the round-table discussions. I think I have a solution. Dedicate 9:15 - 10:15 a.m. on Friday morning, after the first round of sessions, to round-table discussion. There's a 15 minute break before and a 15 minute break on either end, after and before the previous and next round of workshops. This would seem to provide adequate dedicated time for networking and round-table discussion. And by Friday, folks might welcome a break from the workshops. Having it during lunch on Thursday, as per Jon's and Hadi's suggestion, also seems workable but I'd like to keep the keynote lunch as it is this year. But perhaps this is the way to go next year. Let me know what you think. The next step is to identify round-table topics and someone to perhaps lead or at least facilitate discussion. After all, we don't want anarchy. :-) Thanks, Howard On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. > wrote: I am all for doing this, but they should be separate from presentations so people don't have to choose. And if the conference can be extended by a day on the front end, then I can get two weeks in Colorado straight, as the Educause Conference I need to attend this year is in Boulder, as well, the week before AHG. Yes, that's quite selfish on my part, but I'd rather not fly home in between, instead use my weekend to learn to ski or something else equally useful. (No snarky comments from the peanut gallery, if you please!) Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Mon Jun 29 06:49:02 2009 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:33 2018 Subject: [Athen] technical standards for captioning Message-ID: <4A3C76BE00000C89@> Hi all, I have a meeting later today with the VP of instruction at our college. The college currently has established a strategic advisory council on technology. The VP has invited me (= my office) to the table for a discussion on setting college-wide standards on the need for captioning, how to do it --i.e., contact an outside source for production or purchase of software/hardware and which department may be responsible. Have any of you at your respective colleges set up standards for captioning that you would be willing to share, in at least preliminary form, with us? Please contact me off-line. If you all would like to know more about how the discussion(s) go today, let me know! Thanks to all for your collective wisdom and willingness to share. Blessings, Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College Mesa AZ wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu 480-461-7447 From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Jun 29 07:30:07 2009 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:33 2018 Subject: [Athen] numbers of disabled students in higher education In-Reply-To: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00241FA35@ebe1.umassb.net> References: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00241FA35@ebe1.umassb.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20090629072958.0249cce0@pop.gmail.com> Thanks. Very good. Norm At 05:58 AM 6/24/2009, you wrote: >Norm, > > >Last week you are looking for some statistics about college students. > >From the generosity and my surprise the Department of labor/office of >disabilities provided me with the following information. A hope you'll >find it useful. > >Sara wrote: > >Dear Kenneth, > >Thank you for your email. The general number is around 10-11%. I >remember that statistic from my grad school days (not too long ago) and >asked a colleague of mine who recommended the NLTS2 report. They >estimate that of the college population 11% of students have >self-identified as students with disabilities. Here is the link to the >NLTS2 website for your reference: http://www.nlts2.org/index.html and >here is also another chart to back up the about 10% number: >http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d03/tables/dt214.asp. > >I hope that this helps and good luck! >Best, >Sara > >Sara Mahoney >Business Development Specialist >Department of Labor, Office of Disability Employment Policy >Office: 202-693-7901 >mahoney.sara@dol.gov >Web: https://wrp.gov/ > > > >Kenneth Elkind >Adaptive Technology Specialist >University of Massachusetts - Boston >IT-ED Tech Operations >Healey Library /UL/ 032 >617-287-5243 >Kenneth.Elkind@umb.edu > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From pat at automaticsync.com Mon Jun 29 09:11:39 2009 From: pat at automaticsync.com (Pat Brogan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:33 2018 Subject: [Athen] numbers of disabled students in higher education In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20090629072958.0249cce0@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0MKpCa-1MLJSG3EUF-000Bzs@mrelay.perfora.net> Table 1: Types of disabilities in new undergraduate students, HEATH Resource Center Pat Brogan, Ph.D. Vice President, Sales and Marketing Automatic Sync Technologies 877-ast-sync ext. 712 Mobile 408-656-6145 http://www.automaticsync.com -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 7:30 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] numbers of disabled students in higher education Thanks. Very good. Norm At 05:58 AM 6/24/2009, you wrote: >Norm, > > >Last week you are looking for some statistics about college students. > >From the generosity and my surprise the Department of labor/office of >disabilities provided me with the following information. A hope you'll >find it useful. > >Sara wrote: > >Dear Kenneth, > >Thank you for your email. The general number is around 10-11%. I >remember that statistic from my grad school days (not too long ago) and >asked a colleague of mine who recommended the NLTS2 report. They >estimate that of the college population 11% of students have >self-identified as students with disabilities. Here is the link to the >NLTS2 website for your reference: http://www.nlts2.org/index.html and >here is also another chart to back up the about 10% number: >http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d03/tables/dt214.asp. > >I hope that this helps and good luck! >Best, >Sara > >Sara Mahoney >Business Development Specialist >Department of Labor, Office of Disability Employment Policy >Office: 202-693-7901 >mahoney.sara@dol.gov >Web: https://wrp.gov/ > > > >Kenneth Elkind >Adaptive Technology Specialist >University of Massachusetts - Boston >IT-ED Tech Operations >Healey Library /UL/ 032 >617-287-5243 >Kenneth.Elkind@umb.edu > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 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If that doesn't work (due to lack of time in the schedule), I may still do the second partially exclusive slot on Friday afternoon. Yes, people would possibly have to make a choice between a lab they like and a RT they'd like to attend but that's life and there's still the exclusive RT slot on Friday morning. I look forward to everyone's response. Thanks, Howard On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Robert Beach wrote: > Howard, > > May > > Maybe we should see how many round tables we need to see if there is enough > for a second session. > > > > > > Robert Lee Beach > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Kansas City Kansas Community College > > 7250 State Avenue > > Kansas City, KS 66112 > > Phone: 913-288-7671 > > Fax: 913-288-7678 > > E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu > > > > *From:* athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] *On > Behalf Of *Howard Kramer > *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:10 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] feedback on round-table networking time at AHG 2009 > > > > Now that I've actually placed the second round proposals into the schedule, > it looks like I could fit another round-table slot into 3:30 - 4:30 on > Thursday, just before the reception in the exhibit area. It would run up > against 2 labs however. Let me know what you think. Is it worth it to have a > second partial slot for round-tables? [Please make sure to read my first > message below if you haven't already done this. Otherwise, you won't know > what I'm talking about - I'm waiting for the smart replies to this > statement]. > > Thanks, > > -Howard > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Howard Kramer > wrote: > > Hello All: > > It seems the consensus is definitely to not have competition during the > round-table discussions. I think I have a solution. Dedicate 9:15 - 10:15 > a.m. on Friday morning, after the first round of sessions, to round-table > discussion. There's a 15 minute break before and a 15 minute break on either > end, after and before the previous and next round of workshops. This would > seem to provide adequate dedicated time for networking and round-table > discussion. And by Friday, folks might welcome a break from the workshops. > > Having it during lunch on Thursday, as per Jon's and Hadi's suggestion, > also seems workable but I'd like to keep the keynote lunch as it is this > year. But perhaps this is the way to go next year. > > Let me know what you think. The next step is to identify round-table topics > and someone to perhaps lead or at least facilitate discussion. After all, we > don't want anarchy. :-) > > Thanks, > Howard > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. > wrote: > > I am all for doing this, but they should be separate from presentations > so people don't have to choose. And if the conference can be extended > by a day on the front end, then I can get two weeks in Colorado > straight, as the Educause Conference I need to attend this year is in > Boulder, as well, the week before AHG. > > Yes, that's quite selfish on my part, but I'd rather not fly home in > between, instead use my weekend to learn to ski or something else > equally useful. (No snarky comments from the peanut gallery, if you > please!) > > Susan Kelmer > Adaptive Technology Specialist/ > Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms > St. Louis Community College - Meramec > 314-984-7951 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > -- > Howard Kramer > AHG Conference Coordinator > Access Specialist > 303-492-8672 > fax: 492-5601 > > > > > -- > Howard Kramer > AHG Conference Coordinator > Access Specialist > 303-492-8672 > fax: 492-5601 > -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Mon Jun 29 10:50:03 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) 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URL: From E.Henley at snhu.edu Tue Jun 30 11:21:06 2009 From: E.Henley at snhu.edu (Henley, Elizabeth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:33 2018 Subject: [Athen] CD Player? In-Reply-To: <0MKpCa-1MLJSG3EUF-000Bzs@mrelay.perfora.net> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090629072958.0249cce0@pop.gmail.com> <0MKpCa-1MLJSG3EUF-000Bzs@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: <55544D528384A540A4FBC885CB2BF04101C821D7D986@SNHU-CCR-A.snhu.edu> Hi all, I had a request from a staff member who's looking for a CD player for a relative that I was hoping someone would have a suggestion for. She's looking for a very simple CD player that's just on and off basically, but that if she's listening to an audio book on CD, when she turns it off and then back on again it'll start right back up in the same spot. She's really looking for a cassette tape player replacement in those regards. The only CD players I really work with are ones to use with books from RFB&D. However, what she's accessing are just commercial audio books, not DAISY format, and doesn't want to have to set bookmarks. The CD player would also need to have big buttons, as she has low vision. Any ideas? The only items I'm coming up for are ones that do bookmarks, DAISY books, or would require her to jump to tracks, nothing that would start back up again at the same point it was when she stopped and turned it off. Thanks, Liz Liz Henley Assistant Director, Office of Disability Services Southern New Hampshire University 2500 North River Rd Manchester, NH 03106 (603) 668-2211, ext. 2118 Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Tue Jun 30 11:23:37 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:33 2018 Subject: [Athen] CD Player? In-Reply-To: <55544D528384A540A4FBC885CB2BF04101C821D7D986@SNHU-CCR-A.snhu.edu> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090629072958.0249cce0@pop.gmail.com><0MKpCa-1MLJSG3EUF-000Bzs@mrelay.perfora.net> <55544D528384A540A4FBC885CB2BF04101C821D7D986@SNHU-CCR-A.snhu.edu> Message-ID: Any CD player will work, but instead of turning it off, she should press or switch on the "hold" button when she wants to pause the play, then turn it off. It will "hold" her place that way. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Henley, Elizabeth Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:21 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] CD Player? Hi all, I had a request from a staff member who's looking for a CD player for a relative that I was hoping someone would have a suggestion for. She's looking for a very simple CD player that's just on and off basically, but that if she's listening to an audio book on CD, when she turns it off and then back on again it'll start right back up in the same spot. She's really looking for a cassette tape player replacement in those regards. The only CD players I really work with are ones to use with books from RFB&D. However, what she's accessing are just commercial audio books, not DAISY format, and doesn't want to have to set bookmarks. The CD player would also need to have big buttons, as she has low vision. Any ideas? The only items I'm coming up for are ones that do bookmarks, DAISY books, or would require her to jump to tracks, nothing that would start back up again at the same point it was when she stopped and turned it off. Thanks, Liz Liz Henley Assistant Director, Office of Disability Services Southern New Hampshire University 2500 North River Rd Manchester, NH 03106 (603) 668-2211, ext. 2118 Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: