From saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu Sun Mar 1 18:43:10 2009 From: saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu (Saroj Primlani) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 44 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1241.59.183.137.210.1235961790.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu> Hi Ron, why don't you propose an conference call or a web meeting if we do not get enough people at CSUN. DI will not be able to make it as I am in India. Saroj Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 43 (Bryon Kluesner) > 2. Re: Presenting at CSUN? (Jayme Johnson) > 3. Re: Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate (Shelley Haven) > 4. Re: Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate (Ed. Rosenthal) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:05:25 -0500 > From: "Bryon Kluesner" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 43 > To: > Message-ID: <90C130DE05B88E4FA7F79AE16669DE1C0285279C@exch3> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am an Athen member, but will not be able to go to CSUN - travel money > is frozen. Glad I completed the ATA certificate last year. > > Bryon Kluesner, M.S., Ph.D. > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Office for Students with Disabilities > University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > 423-425-5251 v > 423-425-2288 f > Bryon-Kluesner@utc.edu > www.utc.edu/osd > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:00 PM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 43 > > Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: CSUN (Pratik Patel) > 2. Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate (Sean Keegan) > 3. Re: Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 42 (Frank Post) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:52:53 -0500 > From: "Pratik Patel" > Subject: Re: [Athen] CSUN > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > > Message-ID: <062301c998f3$75666710$60333530$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > It looks like I will have to cancel myCSUN travel plans due to > unforeseen > personal circumstances. 'll miss seeing everyone. Enjoy. > > > > Pratik > > > > > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Wiersma, Constance A > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 10:25 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] CSUN > > > > I am an ATHEN member, but will not be at CSUN this year-no out of state > travel $$. > > > > Connie Wiersma, Assistant Director > > Center for Students with Disabilities > > Andersen Library 2002E > > University of Wisconsin-Whitewater > > Whitewater, WI 53190 > > Ph. 262-472-5244 > > > > > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:17 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] CSUN > > > > Hi All, can you please let me know if you are ATHEN members and plan on > attending CSUN > > > > Ron > > > > ************************************************************************ > **** > *** > > Ron Stewart > > Managing Consultant > > Altformat Solutions LLC > > > > 8300 West Weller St > > Yorktown, IN 47396 > > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > > www.altformatsolutions.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > a9bfa7c/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:02:24 -0800 > From: Sean Keegan > Subject: [Athen] Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network , > Alternate Media > Message-ID: <49A838C0.8010302@stanford.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Is anyone using MacSpeech Dictate and can provide some feedback on the > USB microphone that ships with the product? > > I am curious as to the functionality and if you would recommend a > different microphone with MacSpeech Dictate. From the MacSpeech page, > you can "upgrade" your mic to a VXi TalkPro series, xTag, or Samsontech > Airline. Wanted to get some feedback as to any real-world experiences > before I commit. > > > Take care, > Sean > > Sean Keegan > Associate Director, Assistive Technology > Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:45:52 -0800 > From: Frank Post > Subject: Re: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 42 > To: "athen@athenpro.org" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I will only be able to attend one day (hopefully)of the exhibitors. No > money for both AHG and CSUN this year. I see the meeting is on a > Thursday, which is nice because I may be able to come that day and just > stay longer to attend the meeting, then drive back to San Diego. > > Frank > > ________________________________________ > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf > Of athen-request@athenpro.org [athen-request@athenpro.org] > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:31 AM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 42 > > Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: CSUN (Humbert, Joseph A) > 2. Re: ATHEN meeting at CSUN (Hadi Rangin) > 3. Re: CSUN (Wiersma, Constance A) > 4. Fwd: FW: PAID research internship--APP DEADLINE EXTENDED 3/2 > (Heidi Scher) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:44:17 -0500 > From: "Humbert, Joseph A" > Subject: Re: [Athen] CSUN > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi! > > I will not be attending CSUN this year. > > Joe Humbert, Assistive Technology Specialist > UITS Adaptive Technology Centers > Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington > 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E > Indianapolis, IN 46202 > Office Phone: (317) 274-4378 > Cell phone: (847) 431-6545 > johumber@iupui.edu > http://iuadapts.indiana.edu/ > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:17 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] CSUN > > Hi All, can you please let me know if you are ATHEN members and plan on > attending CSUN > > Ron > > ************************************************************************ > ******* > Ron Stewart > Managing Consultant > Altformat Solutions LLC > > 8300 West Weller St > Yorktown, IN 47396 > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > www.altformatsolutions.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > 7719aac/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:04:58 -0600 > From: "Hadi Rangin" > Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN meeting at CSUN > To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" > Message-ID: <4273081DB0104728A6349E22B2867C5D@ad.uiuc.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Ron and other Athen members, > > If you are interested to webcast your meeting and/or allow other members > to > join you remotely and participate actively in your meeting, I will be > glad > to setup a TC Virtual room for this purpose. > Ron, at your end, you would probably need just your laptop and table-top > microphone, and a couple of speakers. > > Please let me know. > Hadi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Stewart" > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:27 AM > Subject: [Athen] ATHEN meeting at CSUN > > >> Good morning all, we have the location for the ATHEN meeting and now > we >> need >> your agenda items. >> >> >> >> Meeting Date: Thursday March 19th >> >> Meeting Time: 6:30pm - 8:00 pm >> >> Meeting Location: La Jolla room of the Marriott >> >> >> >> Agenda Items? >> >> >> >> Ron Stewart >> >> >> >> >> >> > ************************************************************************ > * >> >> Ron Stewart MS >> >> Technology Advisor >> >> Association on Higher Education and Disabilities >> >> Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group >> >> >> >> 8300 West Weller St >> >> Yorktown, IN 47396 >> >> Mobile: 609 213-2190 >> >> Fax: 765 405-1484 >> >> >> >> ron@ahead.org >> >> http://www.ahead.org >> >> Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never > know >> how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something > to >> look >> forward to in the morning! >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:25:09 -0600 > From: "Wiersma, Constance A" > Subject: Re: [Athen] CSUN > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Message-ID: <25F108F81838F14ABD90305FAB3BCF02406F3E27@exchmb3.uww.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am an ATHEN member, but will not be at CSUN this year-no out of state > travel $$. > > Connie Wiersma, Assistant Director > Center for Students with Disabilities > Andersen Library 2002E > University of Wisconsin-Whitewater > Whitewater, WI 53190 > Ph. 262-472-5244 > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:17 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] CSUN > > Hi All, can you please let me know if you are ATHEN members and plan on > attending CSUN > > Ron > > ************************************************************************ > ******* > Ron Stewart > Managing Consultant > Altformat Solutions LLC > > 8300 West Weller St > Yorktown, IN 47396 > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > www.altformatsolutions.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ff05b30/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:31:34 -0600 > From: Heidi Scher > Subject: [Athen] Fwd: FW: PAID research internship--APP DEADLINE > EXTENDED 3/2 > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Message-ID: > <6e0d34c90902270731l5e498a25jc428394aa667a18c@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > HI all, > > Just wanted to pass along this info about an internship opportunity for > undergrads. Wish it had been around when I was doing my undergrad > work!! > > Heidi > > *From:* REU Recruitment [mailto:REU_RECRUITMENT@LISTSERV.HERLPITT.ORG] > *On > Behalf Of *Goldberg, Mary R > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:55 AM > *To:* REU_RECRUITMENT@LISTSERV.HERLPITT.ORG > *Subject:* PAID research internship--APP DEADLINE EXTENDED 3/2 > > > > Dear Colleague, > > > > Please circulate amongst interested parties. Our application deadline > has > been extended through March 2, 2009. > > > > Thanks, > > Mary Goldberg > > > > > > Students, > > > > What?s your idea of a sweet summer job?: > > > > - Being creative > - Making a difference > - Working with great people > - Earning a good stipend > - Writing business plans for innovative technologies > - Doing research in assistive technology field to improve the quality > of > life of real people! > > > > If you answered yes to these questions, please consider applying to > the *American > Student Placements and Internships in Rehabilitation Engineering > (ASPIRE) > and Quality of Life Technology (QoLT) Research Experience for > Undergraduates > (REU) *at Carnegie Mellon/University of Pittsburgh. We are extending > this > opportunity to students with business backgrounds to encourage further > development in the tech transfer area. > > * * > > Check out our informational video at > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hUgskSsKmg! > > > > For more information and to apply, please visit our webpages at > www.herlpitt.org/internships. The application deadline has been > extended > through *3/2/09*. > > > > I look forward to hearing from you. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Mary R. Goldberg, M.Ed. > > Education and Outreach Coordinator > > Quality of Life Technology Center > > Department of Rehabilitation Science and Technology > > University of Pittsburgh > > > > Human Engineering Research Laboratories (HERL) > > VA Pittsburgh Health System > > 7180 Highland Dr. > > Building 4, 151R1-H > > Pittsburgh, PA 15206 > > > > Phone: (412) 954-5291 > > Fax: (412) 954-5340 > > Email: mrh35@pitt.edu > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > 4d22bbe/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 42 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 43 > ************************************* > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:29:55 -0800 > From: "Jayme Johnson" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Presenting at CSUN? > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > > Message-ID: <013201c99933$4cd59f60$e680de20$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Sean, thanks for putting this together. Here's my CSUN presentation > info: > > Session ID: WWW-2027 > Title: Captioning Podcasts and Digital Media > Speakers: Jayme Johnson > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 > Start Time: 9:20 AM > End Time: 10:20 AM > Location: Marriott - Miami > > Session ID: PSE-1016 > Title: DAISY in Higher Education > Speakers: Gaeir Dietrich, Jayme Johnson, Sam Ogami > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009 > Start Time: 9:20 AM > End Time: 10:20 AM > Location: Marriott - Meridian One DAISY/EASY > > Session ID: LRN-1011 > Title: Selecting Software for Students with Learning Disabilities: An > Online > Educational Resource > Speakers: Jayme Johnson > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009 > Start Time: 3:10 PM > End Time: 4:10 PM > Location: Marriott - St. Louis > > Take care- I'll be seeing you soon... > > Jayme > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Sean Keegan > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:56 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Presenting at CSUN? > > Hello all, > > If you are an ATHEN member and will be presenting at CSUN, we would like > to identify your session information on the ATHEN Website. Please send > me the following information and I will get this up on the ATHEN site. > > Session Name > Date > Time, Location > Your Name and Affiliation > > > I am looking forward to hearing from those ATHEN members who will be > presenting at the CSUN 2009 Conference. > > Take care, > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:01:53 -0800 > From: Shelley Haven > Subject: Re: [Athen] Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network , > Alternate Media > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Hey, Sean! > > I use Dictate with a VXi TalkPro XPress which seems to work fine. > The XPress is what originally shipped with iListen and when I > "crossgraded" to Dictate, they just shipped me the software. > > However, I asked technical support at MacSpeech last September what > is the brand of the generic "quality USB headset microphone" that > ships with Dictate, and what features the VXi Talk Pros offer to > justify the higher price. I was told that boxed versions now ship > with either the VXi Parrot or the Plantronics Audio 400. (A quick > check in the Stanford Bookstore shows it to be a Plantronics Audio > 610, though.) She also said: > >>The major difference is in the sensitivity of the mics. The >>TalkPros are much more sensitive and therefore are the better choice >>for people who will use Dictate in a noisier environment or who >>speak with a softer voice. If either of these scenarios are not >>you, then the Plantronics headset should be just fine. To be >>considered MacSpeech certified the mic had to get a minimum level of >>accuracy before we would endorse it. > > Based on this, I advised a college student I was working with to > purchase the regular boxed version with the Audio 610. We got > excellent recognition accuracy during the initial training (this was > with Dictate 1.0, BTW). > > Hope this helps, > Shelley > > > Shelley Haven ATP, RET > Assistive Technology Consultant > Sunnyvale, CA > 408-737-2092 > > > > At 11:02 AM -0800 2/27/09, Sean Keegan wrote: >>Is anyone using MacSpeech Dictate and can provide some feedback on >>the USB microphone that ships with the product? >> >>I am curious as to the functionality and if you would recommend a >>different microphone with MacSpeech Dictate. From the MacSpeech >>page, you can "upgrade" your mic to a VXi TalkPro series, xTag, or >>Samsontech Airline. Wanted to get some feedback as to any >>real-world experiences before I commit. >> >> >>Take care, >>Sean >> >>Sean Keegan >>Associate Director, Assistive Technology >>Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:18:24 -0800 > From: "Ed. Rosenthal" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > > Message-ID: <005801c999c0$2fbf0c30$8f3d2490$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The VXI mic has excellent passive noise cancellation, and we've found it > to > be one of the more accurate mics available...we often run it to the > computer > with an Andrea USB converter. Unless they have changed their unit specs > here's more info on the VXI: > > . Gentex Noise canceling microphone > . Ambient noise suppression: 13dB @ 1kHz, typical > . Output impedance: 1.8 kOhms typical > . Sensitivity: -50dB @ 1kHz (defined 1" from talk-side, 82dB SPL) > . Frequency response: 100Hz to 6.3 kHz, optimized for voice using the > Translator > . Operating current: 300uA max > . Operating voltage: 1.0 V DC min. to 20 V DC max. > . Speaker: Dynamic, 36mm diameter SPL: 90dB @ 1 kHz, 0.22 V input > . Impedance: 32 Ohms > . Frequency response: 100 Hz to 6.3 kHz > . Rated input power: 10 mW continuous, 100 m W peak > > -ed. > > > Edward S. Rosenthal > President and CEO > Next Generation Technologies, Inc. (NGT Inc.) > 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 > Lynnwood, Wa. 998036-6334 > Ph: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 > Fx: 425-778-5547 > Skype: ed.rosenthal7 > EM: edward@ngtvoice.com > http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com > > This document may have been dictated with speech recognition software. > Please disregard any remaining miscrecognitions. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Shelley Haven > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:02 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Alternate Media > Subject: Re: [Athen] Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate > > Hey, Sean! > > I use Dictate with a VXi TalkPro XPress which seems to work fine. > The XPress is what originally shipped with iListen and when I > "crossgraded" to Dictate, they just shipped me the software. > > However, I asked technical support at MacSpeech last September what > is the brand of the generic "quality USB headset microphone" that > ships with Dictate, and what features the VXi Talk Pros offer to > justify the higher price. I was told that boxed versions now ship > with either the VXi Parrot or the Plantronics Audio 400. (A quick > check in the Stanford Bookstore shows it to be a Plantronics Audio > 610, though.) She also said: > >>The major difference is in the sensitivity of the mics. The >>TalkPros are much more sensitive and therefore are the better choice >>for people who will use Dictate in a noisier environment or who >>speak with a softer voice. If either of these scenarios are not >>you, then the Plantronics headset should be just fine. To be >>considered MacSpeech certified the mic had to get a minimum level of >>accuracy before we would endorse it. > > Based on this, I advised a college student I was working with to > purchase the regular boxed version with the Audio 610. We got > excellent recognition accuracy during the initial training (this was > with Dictate 1.0, BTW). > > Hope this helps, > Shelley > > > Shelley Haven ATP, RET > Assistive Technology Consultant > Sunnyvale, CA > 408-737-2092 > > > > At 11:02 AM -0800 2/27/09, Sean Keegan wrote: >>Is anyone using MacSpeech Dictate and can provide some feedback on >>the USB microphone that ships with the product? >> >>I am curious as to the functionality and if you would recommend a >>different microphone with MacSpeech Dictate. From the MacSpeech >>page, you can "upgrade" your mic to a VXi TalkPro series, xTag, or >>Samsontech Airline. Wanted to get some feedback as to any >>real-world experiences before I commit. >> >> >>Take care, >>Sean >> >>Sean Keegan >>Associate Director, Assistive Technology >>Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 44 > ************************************* > From ron at ahead.org Mon Mar 2 08:23:16 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 44 In-Reply-To: <1241.59.183.137.210.1235961790.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu> References: <1241.59.183.137.210.1235961790.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: <005201c99b53$33f95960$9bec0c20$@org> We are exploring this option, the issue is the very poor quality of connectivity at the Marriott. We can look into what they are going to charge us for a connection but the last time I looked it was not a reasonable cost. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Saroj Primlani Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 9:43 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 44 Hi Ron, why don't you propose an conference call or a web meeting if we do not get enough people at CSUN. DI will not be able to make it as I am in India. Saroj Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 43 (Bryon Kluesner) > 2. Re: Presenting at CSUN? (Jayme Johnson) > 3. Re: Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate (Shelley Haven) > 4. Re: Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate (Ed. Rosenthal) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:05:25 -0500 > From: "Bryon Kluesner" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 43 > To: > Message-ID: <90C130DE05B88E4FA7F79AE16669DE1C0285279C@exch3> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am an Athen member, but will not be able to go to CSUN - travel money > is frozen. Glad I completed the ATA certificate last year. > > Bryon Kluesner, M.S., Ph.D. > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Office for Students with Disabilities > University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > 423-425-5251 v > 423-425-2288 f > Bryon-Kluesner@utc.edu > www.utc.edu/osd > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:00 PM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 43 > > Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: CSUN (Pratik Patel) > 2. Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate (Sean Keegan) > 3. Re: Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 42 (Frank Post) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:52:53 -0500 > From: "Pratik Patel" > Subject: Re: [Athen] CSUN > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > > Message-ID: <062301c998f3$75666710$60333530$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > It looks like I will have to cancel myCSUN travel plans due to > unforeseen > personal circumstances. 'll miss seeing everyone. Enjoy. > > > > Pratik > > > > > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Wiersma, Constance A > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 10:25 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] CSUN > > > > I am an ATHEN member, but will not be at CSUN this year-no out of state > travel $$. > > > > Connie Wiersma, Assistant Director > > Center for Students with Disabilities > > Andersen Library 2002E > > University of Wisconsin-Whitewater > > Whitewater, WI 53190 > > Ph. 262-472-5244 > > > > > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:17 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] CSUN > > > > Hi All, can you please let me know if you are ATHEN members and plan on > attending CSUN > > > > Ron > > > > ************************************************************************ > **** > *** > > Ron Stewart > > Managing Consultant > > Altformat Solutions LLC > > > > 8300 West Weller St > > Yorktown, IN 47396 > > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > > www.altformatsolutions.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > a9bfa7c/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:02:24 -0800 > From: Sean Keegan > Subject: [Athen] Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network , > Alternate Media > Message-ID: <49A838C0.8010302@stanford.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Is anyone using MacSpeech Dictate and can provide some feedback on the > USB microphone that ships with the product? > > I am curious as to the functionality and if you would recommend a > different microphone with MacSpeech Dictate. From the MacSpeech page, > you can "upgrade" your mic to a VXi TalkPro series, xTag, or Samsontech > Airline. Wanted to get some feedback as to any real-world experiences > before I commit. > > > Take care, > Sean > > Sean Keegan > Associate Director, Assistive Technology > Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:45:52 -0800 > From: Frank Post > Subject: Re: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 42 > To: "athen@athenpro.org" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I will only be able to attend one day (hopefully)of the exhibitors. No > money for both AHG and CSUN this year. I see the meeting is on a > Thursday, which is nice because I may be able to come that day and just > stay longer to attend the meeting, then drive back to San Diego. > > Frank > > ________________________________________ > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf > Of athen-request@athenpro.org [athen-request@athenpro.org] > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:31 AM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 42 > > Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: CSUN (Humbert, Joseph A) > 2. Re: ATHEN meeting at CSUN (Hadi Rangin) > 3. Re: CSUN (Wiersma, Constance A) > 4. Fwd: FW: PAID research internship--APP DEADLINE EXTENDED 3/2 > (Heidi Scher) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:44:17 -0500 > From: "Humbert, Joseph A" > Subject: Re: [Athen] CSUN > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi! > > I will not be attending CSUN this year. > > Joe Humbert, Assistive Technology Specialist > UITS Adaptive Technology Centers > Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington > 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E > Indianapolis, IN 46202 > Office Phone: (317) 274-4378 > Cell phone: (847) 431-6545 > johumber@iupui.edu > http://iuadapts.indiana.edu/ > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:17 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] CSUN > > Hi All, can you please let me know if you are ATHEN members and plan on > attending CSUN > > Ron > > ************************************************************************ > ******* > Ron Stewart > Managing Consultant > Altformat Solutions LLC > > 8300 West Weller St > Yorktown, IN 47396 > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > www.altformatsolutions.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > 7719aac/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:04:58 -0600 > From: "Hadi Rangin" > Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN meeting at CSUN > To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" > Message-ID: <4273081DB0104728A6349E22B2867C5D@ad.uiuc.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Ron and other Athen members, > > If you are interested to webcast your meeting and/or allow other members > to > join you remotely and participate actively in your meeting, I will be > glad > to setup a TC Virtual room for this purpose. > Ron, at your end, you would probably need just your laptop and table-top > microphone, and a couple of speakers. > > Please let me know. > Hadi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Stewart" > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:27 AM > Subject: [Athen] ATHEN meeting at CSUN > > >> Good morning all, we have the location for the ATHEN meeting and now > we >> need >> your agenda items. >> >> >> >> Meeting Date: Thursday March 19th >> >> Meeting Time: 6:30pm - 8:00 pm >> >> Meeting Location: La Jolla room of the Marriott >> >> >> >> Agenda Items? >> >> >> >> Ron Stewart >> >> >> >> >> >> > ************************************************************************ > * >> >> Ron Stewart MS >> >> Technology Advisor >> >> Association on Higher Education and Disabilities >> >> Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group >> >> >> >> 8300 West Weller St >> >> Yorktown, IN 47396 >> >> Mobile: 609 213-2190 >> >> Fax: 765 405-1484 >> >> >> >> ron@ahead.org >> >> http://www.ahead.org >> >> Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never > know >> how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something > to >> look >> forward to in the morning! >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:25:09 -0600 > From: "Wiersma, Constance A" > Subject: Re: [Athen] CSUN > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Message-ID: <25F108F81838F14ABD90305FAB3BCF02406F3E27@exchmb3.uww.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am an ATHEN member, but will not be at CSUN this year-no out of state > travel $$. > > Connie Wiersma, Assistant Director > Center for Students with Disabilities > Andersen Library 2002E > University of Wisconsin-Whitewater > Whitewater, WI 53190 > Ph. 262-472-5244 > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:17 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] CSUN > > Hi All, can you please let me know if you are ATHEN members and plan on > attending CSUN > > Ron > > ************************************************************************ > ******* > Ron Stewart > Managing Consultant > Altformat Solutions LLC > > 8300 West Weller St > Yorktown, IN 47396 > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > www.altformatsolutions.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ff05b30/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:31:34 -0600 > From: Heidi Scher > Subject: [Athen] Fwd: FW: PAID research internship--APP DEADLINE > EXTENDED 3/2 > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Message-ID: > <6e0d34c90902270731l5e498a25jc428394aa667a18c@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > HI all, > > Just wanted to pass along this info about an internship opportunity for > undergrads. Wish it had been around when I was doing my undergrad > work!! > > Heidi > > *From:* REU Recruitment [mailto:REU_RECRUITMENT@LISTSERV.HERLPITT.ORG] > *On > Behalf Of *Goldberg, Mary R > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:55 AM > *To:* REU_RECRUITMENT@LISTSERV.HERLPITT.ORG > *Subject:* PAID research internship--APP DEADLINE EXTENDED 3/2 > > > > Dear Colleague, > > > > Please circulate amongst interested parties. Our application deadline > has > been extended through March 2, 2009. > > > > Thanks, > > Mary Goldberg > > > > > > Students, > > > > What?s your idea of a sweet summer job?: > > > > - Being creative > - Making a difference > - Working with great people > - Earning a good stipend > - Writing business plans for innovative technologies > - Doing research in assistive technology field to improve the quality > of > life of real people! > > > > If you answered yes to these questions, please consider applying to > the *American > Student Placements and Internships in Rehabilitation Engineering > (ASPIRE) > and Quality of Life Technology (QoLT) Research Experience for > Undergraduates > (REU) *at Carnegie Mellon/University of Pittsburgh. We are extending > this > opportunity to students with business backgrounds to encourage further > development in the tech transfer area. > > * * > > Check out our informational video at > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hUgskSsKmg! > > > > For more information and to apply, please visit our webpages at > www.herlpitt.org/internships. The application deadline has been > extended > through *3/2/09*. > > > > I look forward to hearing from you. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Mary R. Goldberg, M.Ed. > > Education and Outreach Coordinator > > Quality of Life Technology Center > > Department of Rehabilitation Science and Technology > > University of Pittsburgh > > > > Human Engineering Research Laboratories (HERL) > > VA Pittsburgh Health System > > 7180 Highland Dr. > > Building 4, 151R1-H > > Pittsburgh, PA 15206 > > > > Phone: (412) 954-5291 > > Fax: (412) 954-5340 > > Email: mrh35@pitt.edu > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > 4d22bbe/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 42 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 43 > ************************************* > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:29:55 -0800 > From: "Jayme Johnson" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Presenting at CSUN? > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > > Message-ID: <013201c99933$4cd59f60$e680de20$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Sean, thanks for putting this together. Here's my CSUN presentation > info: > > Session ID: WWW-2027 > Title: Captioning Podcasts and Digital Media > Speakers: Jayme Johnson > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 > Start Time: 9:20 AM > End Time: 10:20 AM > Location: Marriott - Miami > > Session ID: PSE-1016 > Title: DAISY in Higher Education > Speakers: Gaeir Dietrich, Jayme Johnson, Sam Ogami > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009 > Start Time: 9:20 AM > End Time: 10:20 AM > Location: Marriott - Meridian One DAISY/EASY > > Session ID: LRN-1011 > Title: Selecting Software for Students with Learning Disabilities: An > Online > Educational Resource > Speakers: Jayme Johnson > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009 > Start Time: 3:10 PM > End Time: 4:10 PM > Location: Marriott - St. Louis > > Take care- I'll be seeing you soon... > > Jayme > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Sean Keegan > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:56 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Presenting at CSUN? > > Hello all, > > If you are an ATHEN member and will be presenting at CSUN, we would like > to identify your session information on the ATHEN Website. Please send > me the following information and I will get this up on the ATHEN site. > > Session Name > Date > Time, Location > Your Name and Affiliation > > > I am looking forward to hearing from those ATHEN members who will be > presenting at the CSUN 2009 Conference. > > Take care, > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:01:53 -0800 > From: Shelley Haven > Subject: Re: [Athen] Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network , > Alternate Media > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Hey, Sean! > > I use Dictate with a VXi TalkPro XPress which seems to work fine. > The XPress is what originally shipped with iListen and when I > "crossgraded" to Dictate, they just shipped me the software. > > However, I asked technical support at MacSpeech last September what > is the brand of the generic "quality USB headset microphone" that > ships with Dictate, and what features the VXi Talk Pros offer to > justify the higher price. I was told that boxed versions now ship > with either the VXi Parrot or the Plantronics Audio 400. (A quick > check in the Stanford Bookstore shows it to be a Plantronics Audio > 610, though.) She also said: > >>The major difference is in the sensitivity of the mics. The >>TalkPros are much more sensitive and therefore are the better choice >>for people who will use Dictate in a noisier environment or who >>speak with a softer voice. If either of these scenarios are not >>you, then the Plantronics headset should be just fine. To be >>considered MacSpeech certified the mic had to get a minimum level of >>accuracy before we would endorse it. > > Based on this, I advised a college student I was working with to > purchase the regular boxed version with the Audio 610. We got > excellent recognition accuracy during the initial training (this was > with Dictate 1.0, BTW). > > Hope this helps, > Shelley > > > Shelley Haven ATP, RET > Assistive Technology Consultant > Sunnyvale, CA > 408-737-2092 > > > > At 11:02 AM -0800 2/27/09, Sean Keegan wrote: >>Is anyone using MacSpeech Dictate and can provide some feedback on >>the USB microphone that ships with the product? >> >>I am curious as to the functionality and if you would recommend a >>different microphone with MacSpeech Dictate. From the MacSpeech >>page, you can "upgrade" your mic to a VXi TalkPro series, xTag, or >>Samsontech Airline. Wanted to get some feedback as to any >>real-world experiences before I commit. >> >> >>Take care, >>Sean >> >>Sean Keegan >>Associate Director, Assistive Technology >>Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:18:24 -0800 > From: "Ed. Rosenthal" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > > Message-ID: <005801c999c0$2fbf0c30$8f3d2490$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The VXI mic has excellent passive noise cancellation, and we've found it > to > be one of the more accurate mics available...we often run it to the > computer > with an Andrea USB converter. Unless they have changed their unit specs > here's more info on the VXI: > > . Gentex Noise canceling microphone > . Ambient noise suppression: 13dB @ 1kHz, typical > . Output impedance: 1.8 kOhms typical > . Sensitivity: -50dB @ 1kHz (defined 1" from talk-side, 82dB SPL) > . Frequency response: 100Hz to 6.3 kHz, optimized for voice using the > Translator > . Operating current: 300uA max > . Operating voltage: 1.0 V DC min. to 20 V DC max. > . Speaker: Dynamic, 36mm diameter SPL: 90dB @ 1 kHz, 0.22 V input > . Impedance: 32 Ohms > . Frequency response: 100 Hz to 6.3 kHz > . Rated input power: 10 mW continuous, 100 m W peak > > -ed. > > > Edward S. Rosenthal > President and CEO > Next Generation Technologies, Inc. (NGT Inc.) > 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 > Lynnwood, Wa. 998036-6334 > Ph: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 > Fx: 425-778-5547 > Skype: ed.rosenthal7 > EM: edward@ngtvoice.com > http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com > > This document may have been dictated with speech recognition software. > Please disregard any remaining miscrecognitions. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Shelley Haven > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:02 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Alternate Media > Subject: Re: [Athen] Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate > > Hey, Sean! > > I use Dictate with a VXi TalkPro XPress which seems to work fine. > The XPress is what originally shipped with iListen and when I > "crossgraded" to Dictate, they just shipped me the software. > > However, I asked technical support at MacSpeech last September what > is the brand of the generic "quality USB headset microphone" that > ships with Dictate, and what features the VXi Talk Pros offer to > justify the higher price. I was told that boxed versions now ship > with either the VXi Parrot or the Plantronics Audio 400. (A quick > check in the Stanford Bookstore shows it to be a Plantronics Audio > 610, though.) She also said: > >>The major difference is in the sensitivity of the mics. The >>TalkPros are much more sensitive and therefore are the better choice >>for people who will use Dictate in a noisier environment or who >>speak with a softer voice. If either of these scenarios are not >>you, then the Plantronics headset should be just fine. To be >>considered MacSpeech certified the mic had to get a minimum level of >>accuracy before we would endorse it. > > Based on this, I advised a college student I was working with to > purchase the regular boxed version with the Audio 610. We got > excellent recognition accuracy during the initial training (this was > with Dictate 1.0, BTW). > > Hope this helps, > Shelley > > > Shelley Haven ATP, RET > Assistive Technology Consultant > Sunnyvale, CA > 408-737-2092 > > > > At 11:02 AM -0800 2/27/09, Sean Keegan wrote: >>Is anyone using MacSpeech Dictate and can provide some feedback on >>the USB microphone that ships with the product? >> >>I am curious as to the functionality and if you would recommend a >>different microphone with MacSpeech Dictate. From the MacSpeech >>page, you can "upgrade" your mic to a VXi TalkPro series, xTag, or >>Samsontech Airline. Wanted to get some feedback as to any >>real-world experiences before I commit. >> >> >>Take care, >>Sean >> >>Sean Keegan >>Associate Director, Assistive Technology >>Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 44 > ************************************* > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at ahead.org Mon Mar 2 08:53:21 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Job posting Message-ID: <006a01c99b57$67706910$36513b30$@org> Some may be interested in this position, not sure on the pay rate but it looks very low. Ron Eastern Illinois University, Office of Disability Services, has a 12 month, full-time position opening for an Alternative Media Technology Specialist. This person's primary responsibility is to convert educational material into alternative media for students with disabilities. Please see the link for more detailed information and please share with anyone interested http://www.eiu.edu/~casa2000/Position%20opening.pdf. From ea at emptech.info Mon Mar 2 13:20:33 2009 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 44 In-Reply-To: <005201c99b53$33f95960$9bec0c20$@org> References: <1241.59.183.137.210.1235961790.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu> <005201c99b53$33f95960$9bec0c20$@org> Message-ID: <003501c99b7c$bac82a60$30587f20$@info> We could try to get some of us on Skype with others yelling down a Mic - we have done that before! Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: 02 March 2009 16:23 To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 44 We are exploring this option, the issue is the very poor quality of connectivity at the Marriott. We can look into what they are going to charge us for a connection but the last time I looked it was not a reasonable cost. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Saroj Primlani Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 9:43 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 44 Hi Ron, why don't you propose an conference call or a web meeting if we do not get enough people at CSUN. DI will not be able to make it as I am in India. Saroj Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 43 (Bryon Kluesner) > 2. Re: Presenting at CSUN? (Jayme Johnson) > 3. Re: Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate (Shelley Haven) > 4. Re: Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate (Ed. Rosenthal) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:05:25 -0500 > From: "Bryon Kluesner" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 43 > To: > Message-ID: <90C130DE05B88E4FA7F79AE16669DE1C0285279C@exch3> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am an Athen member, but will not be able to go to CSUN - travel money > is frozen. Glad I completed the ATA certificate last year. > > Bryon Kluesner, M.S., Ph.D. > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Office for Students with Disabilities > University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > 423-425-5251 v > 423-425-2288 f > Bryon-Kluesner@utc.edu > www.utc.edu/osd > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:00 PM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 43 > > Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: CSUN (Pratik Patel) > 2. Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate (Sean Keegan) > 3. Re: Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 42 (Frank Post) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:52:53 -0500 > From: "Pratik Patel" > Subject: Re: [Athen] CSUN > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > > Message-ID: <062301c998f3$75666710$60333530$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > It looks like I will have to cancel myCSUN travel plans due to > unforeseen > personal circumstances. 'll miss seeing everyone. Enjoy. > > > > Pratik > > > > > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Wiersma, Constance A > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 10:25 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] CSUN > > > > I am an ATHEN member, but will not be at CSUN this year-no out of state > travel $$. > > > > Connie Wiersma, Assistant Director > > Center for Students with Disabilities > > Andersen Library 2002E > > University of Wisconsin-Whitewater > > Whitewater, WI 53190 > > Ph. 262-472-5244 > > > > > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:17 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] CSUN > > > > Hi All, can you please let me know if you are ATHEN members and plan on > attending CSUN > > > > Ron > > > > ************************************************************************ > **** > *** > > Ron Stewart > > Managing Consultant > > Altformat Solutions LLC > > > > 8300 West Weller St > > Yorktown, IN 47396 > > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > > www.altformatsolutions.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > a9bfa7c/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:02:24 -0800 > From: Sean Keegan > Subject: [Athen] Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network , > Alternate Media > Message-ID: <49A838C0.8010302@stanford.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Is anyone using MacSpeech Dictate and can provide some feedback on the > USB microphone that ships with the product? > > I am curious as to the functionality and if you would recommend a > different microphone with MacSpeech Dictate. From the MacSpeech page, > you can "upgrade" your mic to a VXi TalkPro series, xTag, or Samsontech > Airline. Wanted to get some feedback as to any real-world experiences > before I commit. > > > Take care, > Sean > > Sean Keegan > Associate Director, Assistive Technology > Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:45:52 -0800 > From: Frank Post > Subject: Re: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 42 > To: "athen@athenpro.org" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I will only be able to attend one day (hopefully)of the exhibitors. No > money for both AHG and CSUN this year. I see the meeting is on a > Thursday, which is nice because I may be able to come that day and just > stay longer to attend the meeting, then drive back to San Diego. > > Frank > > ________________________________________ > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf > Of athen-request@athenpro.org [athen-request@athenpro.org] > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:31 AM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 42 > > Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: CSUN (Humbert, Joseph A) > 2. Re: ATHEN meeting at CSUN (Hadi Rangin) > 3. Re: CSUN (Wiersma, Constance A) > 4. Fwd: FW: PAID research internship--APP DEADLINE EXTENDED 3/2 > (Heidi Scher) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:44:17 -0500 > From: "Humbert, Joseph A" > Subject: Re: [Athen] CSUN > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi! > > I will not be attending CSUN this year. > > Joe Humbert, Assistive Technology Specialist > UITS Adaptive Technology Centers > Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington > 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E > Indianapolis, IN 46202 > Office Phone: (317) 274-4378 > Cell phone: (847) 431-6545 > johumber@iupui.edu > http://iuadapts.indiana.edu/ > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:17 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] CSUN > > Hi All, can you please let me know if you are ATHEN members and plan on > attending CSUN > > Ron > > ************************************************************************ > ******* > Ron Stewart > Managing Consultant > Altformat Solutions LLC > > 8300 West Weller St > Yorktown, IN 47396 > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > www.altformatsolutions.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > 7719aac/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:04:58 -0600 > From: "Hadi Rangin" > Subject: Re: [Athen] ATHEN meeting at CSUN > To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" > Message-ID: <4273081DB0104728A6349E22B2867C5D@ad.uiuc.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Ron and other Athen members, > > If you are interested to webcast your meeting and/or allow other members > to > join you remotely and participate actively in your meeting, I will be > glad > to setup a TC Virtual room for this purpose. > Ron, at your end, you would probably need just your laptop and table-top > microphone, and a couple of speakers. > > Please let me know. > Hadi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Stewart" > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:27 AM > Subject: [Athen] ATHEN meeting at CSUN > > >> Good morning all, we have the location for the ATHEN meeting and now > we >> need >> your agenda items. >> >> >> >> Meeting Date: Thursday March 19th >> >> Meeting Time: 6:30pm - 8:00 pm >> >> Meeting Location: La Jolla room of the Marriott >> >> >> >> Agenda Items? >> >> >> >> Ron Stewart >> >> >> >> >> >> > ************************************************************************ > * >> >> Ron Stewart MS >> >> Technology Advisor >> >> Association on Higher Education and Disabilities >> >> Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group >> >> >> >> 8300 West Weller St >> >> Yorktown, IN 47396 >> >> Mobile: 609 213-2190 >> >> Fax: 765 405-1484 >> >> >> >> ron@ahead.org >> >> http://www.ahead.org >> >> Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never > know >> how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something > to >> look >> forward to in the morning! >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:25:09 -0600 > From: "Wiersma, Constance A" > Subject: Re: [Athen] CSUN > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Message-ID: <25F108F81838F14ABD90305FAB3BCF02406F3E27@exchmb3.uww.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am an ATHEN member, but will not be at CSUN this year-no out of state > travel $$. > > Connie Wiersma, Assistant Director > Center for Students with Disabilities > Andersen Library 2002E > University of Wisconsin-Whitewater > Whitewater, WI 53190 > Ph. 262-472-5244 > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:17 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] CSUN > > Hi All, can you please let me know if you are ATHEN members and plan on > attending CSUN > > Ron > > ************************************************************************ > ******* > Ron Stewart > Managing Consultant > Altformat Solutions LLC > > 8300 West Weller St > Yorktown, IN 47396 > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > www.altformatsolutions.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ff05b30/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:31:34 -0600 > From: Heidi Scher > Subject: [Athen] Fwd: FW: PAID research internship--APP DEADLINE > EXTENDED 3/2 > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Message-ID: > <6e0d34c90902270731l5e498a25jc428394aa667a18c@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > HI all, > > Just wanted to pass along this info about an internship opportunity for > undergrads. Wish it had been around when I was doing my undergrad > work!! > > Heidi > > *From:* REU Recruitment [mailto:REU_RECRUITMENT@LISTSERV.HERLPITT.ORG] > *On > Behalf Of *Goldberg, Mary R > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:55 AM > *To:* REU_RECRUITMENT@LISTSERV.HERLPITT.ORG > *Subject:* PAID research internship--APP DEADLINE EXTENDED 3/2 > > > > Dear Colleague, > > > > Please circulate amongst interested parties. Our application deadline > has > been extended through March 2, 2009. > > > > Thanks, > > Mary Goldberg > > > > > > Students, > > > > What?s your idea of a sweet summer job?: > > > > - Being creative > - Making a difference > - Working with great people > - Earning a good stipend > - Writing business plans for innovative technologies > - Doing research in assistive technology field to improve the quality > of > life of real people! > > > > If you answered yes to these questions, please consider applying to > the *American > Student Placements and Internships in Rehabilitation Engineering > (ASPIRE) > and Quality of Life Technology (QoLT) Research Experience for > Undergraduates > (REU) *at Carnegie Mellon/University of Pittsburgh. We are extending > this > opportunity to students with business backgrounds to encourage further > development in the tech transfer area. > > * * > > Check out our informational video at > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hUgskSsKmg! > > > > For more information and to apply, please visit our webpages at > www.herlpitt.org/internships. The application deadline has been > extended > through *3/2/09*. > > > > I look forward to hearing from you. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Mary R. Goldberg, M.Ed. > > Education and Outreach Coordinator > > Quality of Life Technology Center > > Department of Rehabilitation Science and Technology > > University of Pittsburgh > > > > Human Engineering Research Laboratories (HERL) > > VA Pittsburgh Health System > > 7180 Highland Dr. > > Building 4, 151R1-H > > Pittsburgh, PA 15206 > > > > Phone: (412) 954-5291 > > Fax: (412) 954-5340 > > Email: mrh35@pitt.edu > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > 4d22bbe/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 42 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 43 > ************************************* > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:29:55 -0800 > From: "Jayme Johnson" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Presenting at CSUN? > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > > Message-ID: <013201c99933$4cd59f60$e680de20$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Sean, thanks for putting this together. Here's my CSUN presentation > info: > > Session ID: WWW-2027 > Title: Captioning Podcasts and Digital Media > Speakers: Jayme Johnson > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 > Start Time: 9:20 AM > End Time: 10:20 AM > Location: Marriott - Miami > > Session ID: PSE-1016 > Title: DAISY in Higher Education > Speakers: Gaeir Dietrich, Jayme Johnson, Sam Ogami > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009 > Start Time: 9:20 AM > End Time: 10:20 AM > Location: Marriott - Meridian One DAISY/EASY > > Session ID: LRN-1011 > Title: Selecting Software for Students with Learning Disabilities: An > Online > Educational Resource > Speakers: Jayme Johnson > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009 > Start Time: 3:10 PM > End Time: 4:10 PM > Location: Marriott - St. Louis > > Take care- I'll be seeing you soon... > > Jayme > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Sean Keegan > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:56 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Presenting at CSUN? > > Hello all, > > If you are an ATHEN member and will be presenting at CSUN, we would like > to identify your session information on the ATHEN Website. Please send > me the following information and I will get this up on the ATHEN site. > > Session Name > Date > Time, Location > Your Name and Affiliation > > > I am looking forward to hearing from those ATHEN members who will be > presenting at the CSUN 2009 Conference. > > Take care, > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:01:53 -0800 > From: Shelley Haven > Subject: Re: [Athen] Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network , > Alternate Media > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Hey, Sean! > > I use Dictate with a VXi TalkPro XPress which seems to work fine. > The XPress is what originally shipped with iListen and when I > "crossgraded" to Dictate, they just shipped me the software. > > However, I asked technical support at MacSpeech last September what > is the brand of the generic "quality USB headset microphone" that > ships with Dictate, and what features the VXi Talk Pros offer to > justify the higher price. I was told that boxed versions now ship > with either the VXi Parrot or the Plantronics Audio 400. (A quick > check in the Stanford Bookstore shows it to be a Plantronics Audio > 610, though.) She also said: > >>The major difference is in the sensitivity of the mics. The >>TalkPros are much more sensitive and therefore are the better choice >>for people who will use Dictate in a noisier environment or who >>speak with a softer voice. If either of these scenarios are not >>you, then the Plantronics headset should be just fine. To be >>considered MacSpeech certified the mic had to get a minimum level of >>accuracy before we would endorse it. > > Based on this, I advised a college student I was working with to > purchase the regular boxed version with the Audio 610. We got > excellent recognition accuracy during the initial training (this was > with Dictate 1.0, BTW). > > Hope this helps, > Shelley > > > Shelley Haven ATP, RET > Assistive Technology Consultant > Sunnyvale, CA > 408-737-2092 > > > > At 11:02 AM -0800 2/27/09, Sean Keegan wrote: >>Is anyone using MacSpeech Dictate and can provide some feedback on >>the USB microphone that ships with the product? >> >>I am curious as to the functionality and if you would recommend a >>different microphone with MacSpeech Dictate. From the MacSpeech >>page, you can "upgrade" your mic to a VXi TalkPro series, xTag, or >>Samsontech Airline. Wanted to get some feedback as to any >>real-world experiences before I commit. >> >> >>Take care, >>Sean >> >>Sean Keegan >>Associate Director, Assistive Technology >>Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:18:24 -0800 > From: "Ed. Rosenthal" > Subject: Re: [Athen] Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > > Message-ID: <005801c999c0$2fbf0c30$8f3d2490$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The VXI mic has excellent passive noise cancellation, and we've found it > to > be one of the more accurate mics available...we often run it to the > computer > with an Andrea USB converter. Unless they have changed their unit specs > here's more info on the VXI: > > . Gentex Noise canceling microphone > . Ambient noise suppression: 13dB @ 1kHz, typical > . Output impedance: 1.8 kOhms typical > . Sensitivity: -50dB @ 1kHz (defined 1" from talk-side, 82dB SPL) > . Frequency response: 100Hz to 6.3 kHz, optimized for voice using the > Translator > . Operating current: 300uA max > . Operating voltage: 1.0 V DC min. to 20 V DC max. > . Speaker: Dynamic, 36mm diameter SPL: 90dB @ 1 kHz, 0.22 V input > . Impedance: 32 Ohms > . Frequency response: 100 Hz to 6.3 kHz > . Rated input power: 10 mW continuous, 100 m W peak > > -ed. > > > Edward S. Rosenthal > President and CEO > Next Generation Technologies, Inc. (NGT Inc.) > 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 > Lynnwood, Wa. 998036-6334 > Ph: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 > Fx: 425-778-5547 > Skype: ed.rosenthal7 > EM: edward@ngtvoice.com > http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com > > This document may have been dictated with speech recognition software. > Please disregard any remaining miscrecognitions. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Shelley Haven > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:02 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Alternate Media > Subject: Re: [Athen] Microphones and MacSpeech Dictate > > Hey, Sean! > > I use Dictate with a VXi TalkPro XPress which seems to work fine. > The XPress is what originally shipped with iListen and when I > "crossgraded" to Dictate, they just shipped me the software. > > However, I asked technical support at MacSpeech last September what > is the brand of the generic "quality USB headset microphone" that > ships with Dictate, and what features the VXi Talk Pros offer to > justify the higher price. I was told that boxed versions now ship > with either the VXi Parrot or the Plantronics Audio 400. (A quick > check in the Stanford Bookstore shows it to be a Plantronics Audio > 610, though.) She also said: > >>The major difference is in the sensitivity of the mics. The >>TalkPros are much more sensitive and therefore are the better choice >>for people who will use Dictate in a noisier environment or who >>speak with a softer voice. If either of these scenarios are not >>you, then the Plantronics headset should be just fine. To be >>considered MacSpeech certified the mic had to get a minimum level of >>accuracy before we would endorse it. > > Based on this, I advised a college student I was working with to > purchase the regular boxed version with the Audio 610. We got > excellent recognition accuracy during the initial training (this was > with Dictate 1.0, BTW). > > Hope this helps, > Shelley > > > Shelley Haven ATP, RET > Assistive Technology Consultant > Sunnyvale, CA > 408-737-2092 > > > > At 11:02 AM -0800 2/27/09, Sean Keegan wrote: >>Is anyone using MacSpeech Dictate and can provide some feedback on >>the USB microphone that ships with the product? >> >>I am curious as to the functionality and if you would recommend a >>different microphone with MacSpeech Dictate. From the MacSpeech >>page, you can "upgrade" your mic to a VXi TalkPro series, xTag, or >>Samsontech Airline. Wanted to get some feedback as to any >>real-world experiences before I commit. >> >> >>Take care, >>Sean >> >>Sean Keegan >>Associate Director, Assistive Technology >>Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > End of Athen Digest, Vol 37, Issue 44 > ************************************* > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.5/1979 - Release Date: 03/01/09 17:46:00 From sogami at calstate.edu Mon Mar 2 13:37:46 2009 From: sogami at calstate.edu (Ogami, Sam) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] Presenting at CSUN? In-Reply-To: <49A6F3E5.8070106@stanford.edu> Message-ID: Title: VPAT database - A System for Sharing Accessibility Information About Products. Date: March 21, 2009 Time: 8:00 AM Location: Marriott - Chicago Title: DAISY in Higher Education Speakers: Gaeir Dietrich, Jayme Johnson, Sam Ogami Date: Friday, March 20, 2009 Start Time: 9:20 AM End Time: 10:20 AM Location: Marriott - Meridian One DAISY/EASY Sam Ogami Accessible Technology Expert CSU Office of the Chancellor (562) 951-4201 voice (562) 951-4925 fax sogami@calstate.edu On 2/26/09 11:56 AM, "Sean Keegan" wrote: Hello all, If you are an ATHEN member and will be presenting at CSUN, we would like to identify your session information on the ATHEN Website. Please send me the following information and I will get this up on the ATHEN site. Session Name Date Time, Location Your Name and Affiliation I am looking forward to hearing from those ATHEN members who will be presenting at the CSUN 2009 Conference. Take care, Sean _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From bergerei at gse.harvard.edu Mon Mar 2 14:04:48 2009 From: bergerei at gse.harvard.edu (eileen berger) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] speech recogniotion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8328BEADEEEE45B102B4CE1B@Nicole-Bergers-Computer.local> Hi, I am working with a student with Cerebral Palsy whose speech is discreet and generally clear but slow and sometimes intelligibility is an issue. Does dragon or any other speech recognition software hold any promise for use for this student? We currently have version 9. Typing is not an option for him. Thanks for any assistance! Eileen --On March 2, 2009 1:37:46 PM -0800 "Ogami, Sam" wrote: > Title: VPAT database - A System for Sharing Accessibility Information > About Products. Date: March 21, 2009 > Time: 8:00 AM > Location: Marriott - Chicago > > > Title: DAISY in Higher Education > Speakers: Gaeir Dietrich, Jayme Johnson, Sam Ogami > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009 > Start Time: 9:20 AM > End Time: 10:20 AM > Location: Marriott - Meridian One DAISY/EASY > > Sam Ogami > Accessible Technology Expert > CSU Office of the Chancellor > (562) 951-4201 voice > (562) 951-4925 fax > sogami@calstate.edu > > > > > On 2/26/09 11:56 AM, "Sean Keegan" wrote: > > Hello all, > > If you are an ATHEN member and will be presenting at CSUN, we would like > to identify your session information on the ATHEN Website. Please send > me the following information and I will get this up on the ATHEN site. > > Session Name > Date > Time, Location > Your Name and Affiliation > > > I am looking forward to hearing from those ATHEN members who will be > presenting at the CSUN 2009 Conference. > > Take care, > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Eileen Connell Berger Assistant Director Office of Student Affairs, Access and Disability Services Administrator Harvard University Graduate School of Education Larsen Hall G05 14 Appian Way, Cambridge, Ma. 02138 phone: 617 495 5838 fax: 617 496 8024 bergerei@gse.harvard.edu ___________________________________________________________________ This message is intended for the designated recipient(s). It may contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, you may not review copy or distribute this message. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you. From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Mon Mar 2 14:55:35 2009 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] speech recogniotion In-Reply-To: <8328BEADEEEE45B102B4CE1B@Nicole-Bergers-Computer.local> References: <8328BEADEEEE45B102B4CE1B@Nicole-Bergers-Computer.local> Message-ID: <49AC63E7.4080305@mcmail.maricopa.edu> Yes!!! Get version 10. It has much better recognition for people with delayed speech or speech impairments. Contact me off-line anytime. Wink eileen berger wrote: > Hi, > I am working with a student with Cerebral Palsy whose speech is > discreet and generally clear but slow and sometimes intelligibility is > an issue. Does dragon or any other speech recognition software hold > any promise for use for this student? We currently have version 9. > Typing is not an option for him. > Thanks for any assistance! > Eileen > > --On March 2, 2009 1:37:46 PM -0800 "Ogami, Sam" > wrote: > >> Title: VPAT database - A System for Sharing Accessibility Information >> About Products. Date: March 21, 2009 >> Time: 8:00 AM >> Location: Marriott - Chicago >> >> >> Title: DAISY in Higher Education >> Speakers: Gaeir Dietrich, Jayme Johnson, Sam Ogami >> Date: Friday, March 20, 2009 >> Start Time: 9:20 AM >> End Time: 10:20 AM >> Location: Marriott - Meridian One DAISY/EASY >> >> Sam Ogami >> Accessible Technology Expert >> CSU Office of the Chancellor >> (562) 951-4201 voice >> (562) 951-4925 fax >> sogami@calstate.edu >> >> >> >> >> On 2/26/09 11:56 AM, "Sean Keegan" wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> If you are an ATHEN member and will be presenting at CSUN, we would like >> to identify your session information on the ATHEN Website. Please send >> me the following information and I will get this up on the ATHEN site. >> >> Session Name >> Date >> Time, Location >> Your Name and Affiliation >> >> >> I am looking forward to hearing from those ATHEN members who will be >> presenting at the CSUN 2009 Conference. >> >> Take care, >> Sean >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > Eileen Connell Berger > Assistant Director > Office of Student Affairs, > Access and Disability Services Administrator > Harvard University > Graduate School of Education > Larsen Hall G05 > 14 Appian Way, > Cambridge, Ma. 02138 > phone: 617 495 5838 > fax: 617 496 8024 > bergerei@gse.harvard.edu > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > This message is intended for the designated recipient(s). It may contain > confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to > confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, > you may > not review copy or distribute this message. If you receive this in > error, > please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. > Thank you. > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: wink.harner.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 154 bytes Desc: not available URL: From edward at ngtvoice.com Tue Mar 3 05:49:30 2009 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] Presenting at CSUN? In-Reply-To: References: <49A6F3E5.8070106@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <001a01c99c07$1bde56f0$539b04d0$@com> CSUN Presentations: Thursday March 19 at 3.10 PM -Overview of J-Ware Technologies from T&T Consultancy- presented by Ed. Rosenthal, President and CEO, NGT, Inc and Brian Hartgen, Product Development Manager, T&T Consultancy Thursday March 19 at 4.20 PM -"Using iTunes and iPods Without Vision" presented by Brian Hartgen, Product Development Manager, T&T Consultancy Edward S. Rosenthal President and CEO Next Generation Technologies, Inc. (NGT Inc.) 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 Lynnwood, Wa. 998036-6334 Ph: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 Fx: 425-778-5547 Skype: ed.rosenthal7 EM: edward@ngtvoice.com and This document may have been dictated with speech recognition software. Please disregard any remaining miscrecognitions. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ogami, Sam Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:38 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Presenting at CSUN? Title: VPAT database - A System for Sharing Accessibility Information About Products. Date: March 21, 2009 Time: 8:00 AM Location: Marriott - Chicago Title: DAISY in Higher Education Speakers: Gaeir Dietrich, Jayme Johnson, Sam Ogami Date: Friday, March 20, 2009 Start Time: 9:20 AM End Time: 10:20 AM Location: Marriott - Meridian One DAISY/EASY Sam Ogami Accessible Technology Expert CSU Office of the Chancellor (562) 951-4201 voice (562) 951-4925 fax sogami@calstate.edu On 2/26/09 11:56 AM, "Sean Keegan" wrote: Hello all, If you are an ATHEN member and will be presenting at CSUN, we would like to identify your session information on the ATHEN Website. Please send me the following information and I will get this up on the ATHEN site. Session Name Date Time, Location Your Name and Affiliation I am looking forward to hearing from those ATHEN members who will be presenting at the CSUN 2009 Conference. Take care, Sean _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From mcroll at CAHS.Colostate.edu Tue Mar 3 09:18:44 2009 From: mcroll at CAHS.Colostate.edu (Roll,Marla) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] speech recognition In-Reply-To: <8328BEADEEEE45B102B4CE1B@Nicole-Bergers-Computer.local> References: <8328BEADEEEE45B102B4CE1B@Nicole-Bergers-Computer.local> Message-ID: <95D1023BE1E90D43AD435E6F88562BCC2553A3ABB8@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> Hello Eileen, I did have a student with CP in the past that used Dragon fairly successfully. If the user is consistent in their speech errors, Dragon can learn and adapt... I found that the intelligibility was not as big of an issue as I thought it might be. However, the user was highly motivated to use the product and was willing to take a large amount of extra time in training to improve its recognition of his speech patterns. Hope that helps, Marla ________________________________________ Marla C. Roll, MS, OTR Director, Assistive Technology Resource Center Assistant Professor, Dept. of Occupational Therapy 304 Occupational Therapy Building Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO? 80523 - 1586 970-491-2016 970-491-6290 (fax) mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of eileen berger Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:05 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] speech recogniotion Hi, I am working with a student with Cerebral Palsy whose speech is discreet and generally clear but slow and sometimes intelligibility is an issue. Does dragon or any other speech recognition software hold any promise for use for this student? We currently have version 9. Typing is not an option for him. Thanks for any assistance! Eileen --On March 2, 2009 1:37:46 PM -0800 "Ogami, Sam" wrote: > Title: VPAT database - A System for Sharing Accessibility Information > About Products. Date: March 21, 2009 > Time: 8:00 AM > Location: Marriott - Chicago > > > Title: DAISY in Higher Education > Speakers: Gaeir Dietrich, Jayme Johnson, Sam Ogami > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009 > Start Time: 9:20 AM > End Time: 10:20 AM > Location: Marriott - Meridian One DAISY/EASY > > Sam Ogami > Accessible Technology Expert > CSU Office of the Chancellor > (562) 951-4201 voice > (562) 951-4925 fax > sogami@calstate.edu > > > > > On 2/26/09 11:56 AM, "Sean Keegan" wrote: > > Hello all, > > If you are an ATHEN member and will be presenting at CSUN, we would like > to identify your session information on the ATHEN Website. Please send > me the following information and I will get this up on the ATHEN site. > > Session Name > Date > Time, Location > Your Name and Affiliation > > > I am looking forward to hearing from those ATHEN members who will be > presenting at the CSUN 2009 Conference. > > Take care, > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Eileen Connell Berger Assistant Director Office of Student Affairs, Access and Disability Services Administrator Harvard University Graduate School of Education Larsen Hall G05 14 Appian Way, Cambridge, Ma. 02138 phone: 617 495 5838 fax: 617 496 8024 bergerei@gse.harvard.edu ___________________________________________________________________ This message is intended for the designated recipient(s). It may contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, you may not review copy or distribute this message. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From alpuzz at msu.edu Tue Mar 3 11:45:43 2009 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] Assistive Technology on VMs with Application Streaming? References: <002601c97761$06f607d0$14e21770$@com> <009c01c977e1$83d39bc0$8b7ad340$@org> Message-ID: For years, the software image used in all our campus labs has included assistive technologies such as Jaws, Kurzweil 3000, and Zoomtext. Over the next few months, the infrastructure of our lab environment is going to be reworked. All our current PCs will basically be used as Thick clients, which over time are to be replaced by Thin clients. upon starting, the clients will boot to Linux, with Firefox running in kiosk mode. Users will be presented with a simple login web page. After logging in, a Windows XP VM will be streamed to the client. The base VM is going to be very vanilla, with most apps being streamed to the VM as needed. These streaming packages will be built using Altiris Streaming Composer. Is there anyone else dealing with a similar setup? If so, I would be very curious to compare notes as to any accessibility issues you have needed to overcome. My biggest concern is video chaining issues with apps such as Jaws and Zoomtext. Thanks, Al Puzzuoli Michigan State University Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 517-884-1915 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Tue Mar 3 13:57:25 2009 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] Speak and Read device Message-ID: <49ADA7C5.5070908@stanford.edu> Has anyone used a "Speak N Read" device before and can comment on its functionality? Website: http://www.speak-n-read.com/ I am familiar with Ubi Duo (http://www.scommonline.com/aboutUbiDuo) and similar devices, but am interested in anyone's real world experience with the "Speak N Read" device. The "Speak N Read" is based on speech recognition and says that out-of-the-box you should expect approximately 80% recognition accuracy (although it can also be trained). It is lighter than the something like the Ubi Duo system, but I always like to hear real world experiences when it comes to speech recognition-based systems. Take care, Sean From edward at ngtvoice.com Tue Mar 3 14:51:10 2009 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] speech recogniotion In-Reply-To: <49AC63E7.4080305@mcmail.maricopa.edu> References: <8328BEADEEEE45B102B4CE1B@Nicole-Bergers-Computer.local> <49AC63E7.4080305@mcmail.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <006e01c99c52$9007c750$b01755f0$@com> You may want to consider replacing the mic that's provided with the sofware to improve his overall accuracy; also, don't overlook the Add Words from Documents tool in the accuracy center to 'bias' the language model towards a specific topic or work task if relevant...ed. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 2:56 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] speech recogniotion Yes!!! Get version 10. It has much better recognition for people with delayed speech or speech impairments. Contact me off-line anytime. Wink eileen berger wrote: > Hi, > I am working with a student with Cerebral Palsy whose speech is > discreet and generally clear but slow and sometimes intelligibility is > an issue. Does dragon or any other speech recognition software hold > any promise for use for this student? We currently have version 9. > Typing is not an option for him. > Thanks for any assistance! > Eileen > > --On March 2, 2009 1:37:46 PM -0800 "Ogami, Sam" > wrote: > >> Title: VPAT database - A System for Sharing Accessibility Information >> About Products. Date: March 21, 2009 >> Time: 8:00 AM >> Location: Marriott - Chicago >> >> >> Title: DAISY in Higher Education >> Speakers: Gaeir Dietrich, Jayme Johnson, Sam Ogami >> Date: Friday, March 20, 2009 >> Start Time: 9:20 AM >> End Time: 10:20 AM >> Location: Marriott - Meridian One DAISY/EASY >> >> Sam Ogami >> Accessible Technology Expert >> CSU Office of the Chancellor >> (562) 951-4201 voice >> (562) 951-4925 fax >> sogami@calstate.edu >> >> >> >> >> On 2/26/09 11:56 AM, "Sean Keegan" wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> If you are an ATHEN member and will be presenting at CSUN, we would >> like to identify your session information on the ATHEN Website. >> Please send me the following information and I will get this up on the ATHEN site. >> >> Session Name >> Date >> Time, Location >> Your Name and Affiliation >> >> >> I am looking forward to hearing from those ATHEN members who will be >> presenting at the CSUN 2009 Conference. >> >> Take care, >> Sean >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > Eileen Connell Berger > Assistant Director > Office of Student Affairs, > Access and Disability Services Administrator Harvard University > Graduate School of Education Larsen Hall G05 > 14 Appian Way, > Cambridge, Ma. 02138 > phone: 617 495 5838 > fax: 617 496 8024 > bergerei@gse.harvard.edu > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > This message is intended for the designated recipient(s). It may > contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to > confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, > you may not review copy or distribute this message. If you receive > this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete > this message. > Thank you. > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at ahead.org Tue Mar 3 15:23:51 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] Assistive Technology on VMs with Application Streaming? In-Reply-To: References: <002601c97761$06f607d0$14e21770$@com> <009c01c977e1$83d39bc0$8b7ad340$@org> Message-ID: <001401c99c57$1f7a0cf0$5e6e26d0$@org> Hi Al, I am currently working with a CC System that is rolling out an Altiris based system to virtualize all the computers in their multicampus network. There is one option in the system that allows for the setup of a physical hard drive space on the local computer and as I have seen it demonstrated this option allows for the necessary hooks into the base image. If you like I can see if the details are for public consumption, I did some testing and the AT that I was working with functioned just fine, but I think this implementation is not quite as plane jane as what you may be proposing. Altiris makes the claim that the can virtualize anything and based on what I have seen so far the claims seem to be accurate. But of course they would not let me try to break the build J Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:46 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Assistive Technology on VMs with Application Streaming? For years, the software image used in all our campus labs has included assistive technologies such as Jaws, Kurzweil 3000, and Zoomtext. Over the next few months, the infrastructure of our lab environment is going to be reworked. All our current PCs will basically be used as Thick clients, which over time are to be replaced by Thin clients. upon starting, the clients will boot to Linux, with Firefox running in kiosk mode. Users will be presented with a simple login web page. After logging in, a Windows XP VM will be streamed to the client. The base VM is going to be very vanilla, with most apps being streamed to the VM as needed. These streaming packages will be built using Altiris Streaming Composer. Is there anyone else dealing with a similar setup? If so, I would be very curious to compare notes as to any accessibility issues you have needed to overcome. My biggest concern is video chaining issues with apps such as Jaws and Zoomtext. Thanks, Al Puzzuoli Michigan State University Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 517-884-1915 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu Tue Mar 3 17:37:15 2009 From: Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu (Nusen, Michael) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] speech recognition In-Reply-To: <95D1023BE1E90D43AD435E6F88562BCC2553A3ABB8@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> References: <8328BEADEEEE45B102B4CE1B@Nicole-Bergers-Computer.local> <95D1023BE1E90D43AD435E6F88562BCC2553A3ABB8@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> Message-ID: We've had 3 students with significant intelligibility issues - one student acquired this due to 3rd degree facial burns. Using the spelling/phonetic feature extensively, the student had the highest grade in the class. The feature I'm referring to is available at: Words -> View/Edit -> Written Form* & Spoken Form** * The student inputs the correct spelling of the word. ** The student inputs the way they pronounce the word or the phonetic spelling of the word. i.e. a student, due to their disability/articulation disorder might say something unintelligible like "fiter" for "fluster" but by placing the former word in the "Spoken Form" textbox & the latter correct spelling in the "Written Form" textbox, Dragon spells it correctly when they mispronounce it. Years ago we did have one student who was post mva/tbi with CP-like symptoms that, despite speech therapy, just couldn't speak fast enough or project enough air in a steady manner for any speech recognition. What to him was shouting out words (but not loud) would wear him out after only a few minutes even with using an Andrea NC-7100 USB microphone. Perhaps with current technological advances a more sensitive microphone or one that could be placed on his throat would provide some access for him. Also, at the time of his recovery, he didn't have enough motor control anywhere to use standard or switch technologies. Thank you,? Michael Nusen Coordinator, OASIS/CAC (Office of Accommodative Services and Instructional Support/Computer Access Center) Pikes Peak Community College michael.nusen@ppcc.edu 719-502-3022 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Roll,Marla Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:19 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] speech recognition Hello Eileen, I did have a student with CP in the past that used Dragon fairly successfully. If the user is consistent in their speech errors, Dragon can learn and adapt... I found that the intelligibility was not as big of an issue as I thought it might be. However, the user was highly motivated to use the product and was willing to take a large amount of extra time in training to improve its recognition of his speech patterns. Hope that helps, Marla ________________________________________ Marla C. Roll, MS, OTR Director, Assistive Technology Resource Center Assistant Professor, Dept. of Occupational Therapy 304 Occupational Therapy Building Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO? 80523 - 1586 970-491-2016 970-491-6290 (fax) mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of eileen berger Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:05 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] speech recogniotion Hi, I am working with a student with Cerebral Palsy whose speech is discreet and generally clear but slow and sometimes intelligibility is an issue. Does dragon or any other speech recognition software hold any promise for use for this student? We currently have version 9. Typing is not an option for him. Thanks for any assistance! Eileen --On March 2, 2009 1:37:46 PM -0800 "Ogami, Sam" wrote: > Title: VPAT database - A System for Sharing Accessibility Information > About Products. Date: March 21, 2009 > Time: 8:00 AM > Location: Marriott - Chicago > > > Title: DAISY in Higher Education > Speakers: Gaeir Dietrich, Jayme Johnson, Sam Ogami > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009 > Start Time: 9:20 AM > End Time: 10:20 AM > Location: Marriott - Meridian One DAISY/EASY > > Sam Ogami > Accessible Technology Expert > CSU Office of the Chancellor > (562) 951-4201 voice > (562) 951-4925 fax > sogami@calstate.edu > > > > > On 2/26/09 11:56 AM, "Sean Keegan" wrote: > > Hello all, > > If you are an ATHEN member and will be presenting at CSUN, we would like > to identify your session information on the ATHEN Website. Please send > me the following information and I will get this up on the ATHEN site. > > Session Name > Date > Time, Location > Your Name and Affiliation > > > I am looking forward to hearing from those ATHEN members who will be > presenting at the CSUN 2009 Conference. > > Take care, > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Eileen Connell Berger Assistant Director Office of Student Affairs, Access and Disability Services Administrator Harvard University Graduate School of Education Larsen Hall G05 14 Appian Way, Cambridge, Ma. 02138 phone: 617 495 5838 fax: 617 496 8024 bergerei@gse.harvard.edu ___________________________________________________________________ This message is intended for the designated recipient(s). It may contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, you may not review copy or distribute this message. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From alpuzz at msu.edu Tue Mar 3 18:09:13 2009 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] Assistive Technology on VMs with Application Streaming? References: <002601c97761$06f607d0$14e21770$@com> <009c01c977e1$83d39bc0$8b7ad340$@org> <001401c99c57$1f7a0cf0$5e6e26d0$@org> Message-ID: Hi Ron, Sure, any information you could provide would be great, and I'll post any of my own findings back to this list as well. I should get my hands on a test bed system within the next couple weeks, so then I'll get to try to break stuff! My only other concern involves product support. I spoke with one major screen reader vender in regards to another issue last year, and their position at that time was that officially, they didn't support the use of their product in a VM. This trend is only going to grow, so I assume their position will of course change over time; but, I'm not sure whether we're there yet. Al Puzzuoli Michigan State University Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 517-884-1915 ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 6:24 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Assistive Technology on VMs with Application Streaming? Hi Al, I am currently working with a CC System that is rolling out an Altiris based system to virtualize all the computers in their multicampus network. There is one option in the system that allows for the setup of a physical hard drive space on the local computer and as I have seen it demonstrated this option allows for the necessary hooks into the base image. If you like I can see if the details are for public consumption, I did some testing and the AT that I was working with functioned just fine, but I think this implementation is not quite as plane jane as what you may be proposing. Altiris makes the claim that the can virtualize anything and based on what I have seen so far the claims seem to be accurate. But of course they would not let me try to break the build J Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:46 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Assistive Technology on VMs with Application Streaming? For years, the software image used in all our campus labs has included assistive technologies such as Jaws, Kurzweil 3000, and Zoomtext. Over the next few months, the infrastructure of our lab environment is going to be reworked. All our current PCs will basically be used as Thick clients, which over time are to be replaced by Thin clients. upon starting, the clients will boot to Linux, with Firefox running in kiosk mode. Users will be presented with a simple login web page. After logging in, a Windows XP VM will be streamed to the client. The base VM is going to be very vanilla, with most apps being streamed to the VM as needed. These streaming packages will be built using Altiris Streaming Composer. Is there anyone else dealing with a similar setup? If so, I would be very curious to compare notes as to any accessibility issues you have needed to overcome. My biggest concern is video chaining issues with apps such as Jaws and Zoomtext. Thanks, Al Puzzuoli Michigan State University Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 517-884-1915 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Enjoy for me the sunny airport in LA at CSUN. I look forward in hearing the news from the conference. Cheers! Kenneth Elkind Adaptive Technology Specialist University of Massachusetts - Boston IT-ED Tech Operations Healey Library /UL/ 032 617-287-5243 Kenneth.Elkind@umb.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbailey at uoregon.edu Wed Mar 4 13:43:03 2009 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blog Post: My EASI Webinar Message-ID: <1236202983.464285.alphamail@mailapps2.uoregon.edu> Please forgive any cross-posting you may encounter. I have put up a new blog post entitled "My EASI Webinar" at: http://athighered.blogspot.com/ -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1501 Kincaid St. Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 19:29:34 2009 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Online Math Placement Test Message-ID: <6e84aedd0903041929h2f1d3478l7fa982d5198d5c45@mail.gmail.com> Hello The University that I work at has just implemented a new online math placement test. This will be available to all students to take at any time day or night from home before they come to the university for orientation and advising. As all other math placement tests that I have seen this one is not accessible to screen readers and the content is not adjustable to the users contrast settings because the equations and numbers are in image files. the particular system is created by MapleSoft. In most cases where this happens (too frequently) we create an alternative version and make it available in the Disability Services office. But that would not offer equality of availability to the test that the disabled students peers recieve. I don't like people saying to me have someone read the test to them. That is not a solution in my book. I want our students to be able to complete work on their own. I particularly want students to develop the confidence that comes from completing work independently. What really gets me is that all the images need is an alt tag with the LaTex version of the equations or a MathML substitute for students with disabilities. It could be so easily made accessible. The amusing thing is that the graphics are created from MathML stored in a database then the graphics are displayed for the students. I was told that today by a tech rep from the company. There are two short term solutions. Create an equivalent version from scratch. this would include instant feedback of results and round the clock availability without an accomodation request. the second is finding an online testing solution that will allow us to create our own accessible tests. I'm tired of constantly seeing this happen over an over. I am working on getting the university to accept and implement a 508 plan and standards. This will take a very long time to do and does not solve my current dilemma. I'm posting this because I'm looking for ideas. Has the institution that any of you work for switched to something like this? How have you handled it? Does anyone have ideas? Does anyone know of any accessible online math tests? Since I have taken over the Assistive Technology Specialist position at CSU (Ohio) I have been using MathML for math tests and MathType with Duxbury and a variety of solutions for graphics. We have gone from reading the tests to students to allowing them to work independently. Our students are happy with that because there is nothing more boring than having a test read to you. If you have not experienced that try an RFB&D math book sometime. Jeffrey Dell Assistive Technology Specialist Office of disability Services Cleveland State University From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Thu Mar 5 06:24:12 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] getting started with In-Reply-To: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC001EB5682@ebe1.umassb.net> References: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC001EB5682@ebe1.umassb.net> Message-ID: Actually, your lab doesn't sound that bad! When I walked into my lab almost 9 years ago, I walked in to decade-old equipment and a selection of low-end PC's and ancient Macs daisy-chained through four hubs to ONE port switch. There were cords and cables strung across the floor, two ink-jet printers to serve the entire space (my lab had 20+ machines), it was atrocious!! It took me a year to get the room up to shape but I did it. I wish I'd walked into what you did! Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjohnson at htctu.net Thu Mar 5 13:24:20 2009 From: jjohnson at htctu.net (Jayme Johnson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] DAISY in Higher Education Survey Message-ID: <000a01c99dd8$c00e01d0$402a0570$@net> Hello everyone, please excuse the cross-posting as I announce the completion of the new DAISY in Higher Education Survey. This is an attempt to learn more about the general level of awareness regarding DAISY. Anyone can take the survey, and please forward it to anyone who might be willing or interested in sharing their perspective. The survey is online at the following URL: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=E_2fTMmGD6p6tZpNKcnhgNuA_3d_3d The survey results will be shared at the "DAISY in Higher Education" presentation at CSUN (details below), as well as in an email to the lists. CSUN DAISY in Higher Education Session Details: . Session ID: PSE-1016 . Title: DAISY in Higher Education . Speakers: Gaeir Dietrich, Jayme Johnson, Sam Ogami . Date: Friday, March 20, 2009 . Start Time: 9:20 AM . End Time: 10:20 AM . Location: Marriott - Meridian One DAISY/EASY Please let me know if you have any questions or experience any difficulties filling out the survey, and thank you for your participation! Jayme Johnson High Tech Center Training Unit (408) 996-6045 http://www.htctu.net The HTCTU provides leadership, training, and support to the California Community Colleges in using technology to promote the success of students with disabilities. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu Thu Mar 5 19:38:24 2009 From: Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu (Nusen, Michael) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Online Math Placement Test Message-ID: Jeff, Our college administers the Accuplacer Eng/Reading/Math tests online but in a controlled environment. For accommodations, we administer tests utilizing the following accommodative materials from Accuplacer: 1) Braille 2) Large print 3) Analog audio Michael Nusen Coordinator, OASIS/CAC (Office of Accommodative Services and Instructional Support/Computer Access Center) Pikes Peak Community College michael.nusen@ppcc.edu 719-502-3022 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:30 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Online Math Placement Test Hello The University that I work at has just implemented a new online math placement test. This will be available to all students to take at any time day or night from home before they come to the university for orientation and advising. As all other math placement tests that I have seen this one is not accessible to screen readers and the content is not adjustable to the users contrast settings because the equations and numbers are in image files. the particular system is created by MapleSoft. In most cases where this happens (too frequently) we create an alternative version and make it available in the Disability Services office. But that would not offer equality of availability to the test that the disabled students peers recieve. I don't like people saying to me have someone read the test to them. That is not a solution in my book. I want our students to be able to complete work on their own. I particularly want students to develop the confidence that comes from completing work independently. What really gets me is that all the images need is an alt tag with the LaTex version of the equations or a MathML substitute for students with disabilities. It could be so easily made accessible. The amusing thing is that the graphics are created from MathML stored in a database then the graphics are displayed for the students. I was told that today by a tech rep from the company. There are two short term solutions. Create an equivalent version from scratch. this would include instant feedback of results and round the clock availability without an accomodation request. the second is finding an online testing solution that will allow us to create our own accessible tests. I'm tired of constantly seeing this happen over an over. I am working on getting the university to accept and implement a 508 plan and standards. This will take a very long time to do and does not solve my current dilemma. I'm posting this because I'm looking for ideas. Has the institution that any of you work for switched to something like this? How have you handled it? Does anyone have ideas? Does anyone know of any accessible online math tests? Since I have taken over the Assistive Technology Specialist position at CSU (Ohio) I have been using MathML for math tests and MathType with Duxbury and a variety of solutions for graphics. We have gone from reading the tests to students to allowing them to work independently. Our students are happy with that because there is nothing more boring than having a test read to you. If you have not experienced that try an RFB&D math book sometime. Jeffrey Dell Assistive Technology Specialist Office of disability Services Cleveland State University _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From rbeach at kckcc.edu Fri Mar 6 05:40:07 2009 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Online Math Placement Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49B0D357020000CF00029C29@mymail.kckcc.edu> This is the same setup we have here. So far, it has worked well for us even though the online component is not totally accessible. We've had a few of students take the reading and sentence skills part of the test online then use the other materials for the math portion. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Nusen, Michael" 3/5/2009 9:38 PM >>> Jeff, Our college administers the Accuplacer Eng/Reading/Math tests online but in a controlled environment. For accommodations, we administer tests utilizing the following accommodative materials from Accuplacer: 1) Braille 2) Large print 3) Analog audio Michael Nusen Coordinator, OASIS/CAC (Office of Accommodative Services and Instructional Support/Computer Access Center) Pikes Peak Community College michael.nusen@ppcc.edu 719-502-3022 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:30 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Online Math Placement Test Hello The University that I work at has just implemented a new online math placement test. This will be available to all students to take at any time day or night from home before they come to the university for orientation and advising. As all other math placement tests that I have seen this one is not accessible to screen readers and the content is not adjustable to the users contrast settings because the equations and numbers are in image files. the particular system is created by MapleSoft. In most cases where this happens (too frequently) we create an alternative version and make it available in the Disability Services office. But that would not offer equality of availability to the test that the disabled students peers recieve. I don't like people saying to me have someone read the test to them. That is not a solution in my book. I want our students to be able to complete work on their own. I particularly want students to develop the confidence that comes from completing work independently. What really gets me is that all the images need is an alt tag with the LaTex version of the equations or a MathML substitute for students with disabilities. It could be so easily made accessible. The amusing thing is that the graphics are created from MathML stored in a database then the graphics are displayed for the students. I was told that today by a tech rep from the company. There are two short term solutions. Create an equivalent version from scratch. this would include instant feedback of results and round the clock availability without an accomodation request. the second is finding an online testing solution that will allow us to create our own accessible tests. I'm tired of constantly seeing this happen over an over. I am working on getting the university to accept and implement a 508 plan and standards. This will take a very long time to do and does not solve my current dilemma. I'm posting this because I'm looking for ideas. Has the institution that any of you work for switched to something like this? How have you handled it? Does anyone have ideas? Does anyone know of any accessible online math tests? Since I have taken over the Assistive Technology Specialist position at CSU (Ohio) I have been using MathML for math tests and MathType with Duxbury and a variety of solutions for graphics. We have gone from reading the tests to students to allowing them to work independently. Our students are happy with that because there is nothing more boring than having a test read to you. If you have not experienced that try an RFB&D math book sometime. Jeffrey Dell Assistive Technology Specialist Office of disability Services Cleveland State University _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From wiersmac at uww.edu Mon Mar 9 09:20:23 2009 From: wiersmac at uww.edu (Wiersma, Constance A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math Lab accessibility Message-ID: <25F108F81838F14ABD90305FAB3BCF02406F4019@exchmb3.uww.edu> Our office has been has been asked to consult with the Math department as they are developing a couple of new labs. Most of our basic assistive technology programs (JAWS, Kurzweil, ZoomText, etc.) are included in the lab image on campus and we have many adjustable work stations on campus. However, we have not done anything special for the math labs and this seems like a good chance to add software that will improve access to math for students. We have used Scientific Notebook in the past for students testing in our area. Does anyone have any suggestions of software/hardware that would enhance these labs? Thank you for your help. Sincerely, Connie Wiersma, Assistant Director Center for Students with Disabilities Andersen Library 2002E University of Wisconsin-Whitewater Whitewater, WI 53190 Ph. 262-472-5244 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 10:57:55 2009 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math Lab accessibility In-Reply-To: <25F108F81838F14ABD90305FAB3BCF02406F4019@exchmb3.uww.edu> References: <25F108F81838F14ABD90305FAB3BCF02406F4019@exchmb3.uww.edu> Message-ID: <6e84aedd0903091057ke53b6e4j7b95f651127479d8@mail.gmail.com> Do you have licensing for MathType? This would enable people in the lab to help create accessible math for students. MathType is also good for use of alternative pointers to create equations to insert into word documents for student's homework. Since you are using Scientific Notebook If you have a student who uses Dragon for dictation and commands there is a package called MathTalk. I can't remember the name of the company manufacturing it but it should be easy to find on Google. ViewPlus creates the Audio Graphing Calculator and there is another company that creates one called the Accessible Graphing Calculator that work with speech and auditory output for graphing. I really don't like either of these products but if the student has no other means of performing complex graphing functions it can make due. The view plus product can also work with their braille embossers to create embossed graphs. MathTrax is a free graphing calculator that performs more basic functions that was made by NASA but it kind of sucks. You need to evaluate each to make sure that it provides the functions that your students need. Also don't forget tactile manipulatives. Some students respond better to the old embossed graphing paper, cork board, and pipe cleaners than to technology solutions for spacial concepts. Duxbury Braille Translator can use MathType to create Nemeth but it usually needs some editing to correct it's mistakes. The person doing the translating would need a good understanding of the Nemeth code. If you are going to CSUN this year they will probably have some good presentations on accessible math. I got some great info from there last year. One thing to be concerned with is online testing and tutorials. If this is a primary function of the math lab it may be a problem. I have yet to find accessible online math software. They may need to spend some time working on alternatives for students with visual impairments. Hope this is helpful. Jeff Assistive Technology Specialist Cleveland State University On 3/9/09, Wiersma, Constance A wrote: > Our office has been has been asked to consult with the Math department as > they are developing a couple of new labs. Most of our basic assistive > technology programs (JAWS, Kurzweil, ZoomText, etc.) are included in the lab > image on campus and we have many adjustable work stations on campus. > However, we have not done anything special for the math labs and this seems > like a good chance to add software that will improve access to math for > students. We have used Scientific Notebook in the past for students > testing in our area. Does anyone have any suggestions of software/hardware > that would enhance these labs? > > Thank you for your help. > > Sincerely, > > Connie Wiersma, Assistant Director > Center for Students with Disabilities > Andersen Library 2002E > University of Wisconsin-Whitewater > Whitewater, WI 53190 > Ph. 262-472-5244 > > > From gdietrich at htctu.net Mon Mar 9 14:37:03 2009 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math Lab accessibility In-Reply-To: <6e84aedd0903091057ke53b6e4j7b95f651127479d8@mail.gmail.com> References: <25F108F81838F14ABD90305FAB3BCF02406F4019@exchmb3.uww.edu> <6e84aedd0903091057ke53b6e4j7b95f651127479d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jeff, Just out of curiosity, what is it that you do not like about the Audio Graphing Calculator and MathTrax? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The HTCTU provides leadership, training, and support to the California Community Colleges in using technology to promote the success of students with disabilities. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:58 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Math Lab accessibility > ViewPlus creates the Audio Graphing Calculator and there is another company that creates one called the Accessible Graphing Calculator that work with speech and auditory output for graphing. I really don't like either of these products but if the student has no other means of performing complex graphing functions it can make due. The view plus product can also work with their braille embossers to create embossed graphs. MathTrax is a free graphing calculator that performs more basic functions that was made by NASA but it kind of sucks. You need to evaluate each to make sure that it provides the functions that your students need. From pricek at uic.edu Mon Mar 9 15:11:24 2009 From: pricek at uic.edu (Kevin Price) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] 2009 UIC Digital Accessibility Expo Message-ID: <50747.67.173.103.128.1236636684.squirrel@webmail.uic.edu> Athen, Just in case anybody may be close enough or interested in being involved. The University of Illinois at Chicago is having a Digital Accessibility Expo on April 9th, 2009. For more information go to http://drc.uic.edu. Kevin Price MSW, ATP The UIC Disability Resource Center is proud to announce the 2009 Digital Accessibility Expo. Join us on April 9 at the UIC Student Services Building to learn about technology that enables those with disabilities to access online information and digital course materials. The event is free. Refreshments will be served. WHAT: UIC Digital Accessibility Expo WHERE: Student Services Building, Rooms A, B, & C WHEN: April 9, 2009 Presentations/Workshops: 9am - 4pm Exhibits: Noon - 4pm COST: Free. Refreshments will be served. TOPICS will include: The Basics of Making Accessible Course Materials Unique Strategies to Comply with Illinois Information Technology Accessibility Act (IITAA) Cutting Edge Assistive Technologies for People with Disabilities Making PDF files that are Accessible for Everyone A Webmasters Forum Regional, National and International Efforts to Improve Digital Accessibility These are just a few of the topics with many sponsors including the Chancellor's Committee on the Status of Persons with Disabilities, ACCC, the Office for Access and Equity, the UIC Web Accessibility Committee, the DBTAC Great Lakes ADA Center and many more sponsors to be announced! The latest information on this Expo is available online on the 2009 UIC Digital Accessibility Expo Web page. (http://drc.uic.edu) Kevin Price MSW, ATP Assistive Technology Specialist Chair of the UIC Web Accessibility Committee Disability Resource Center (MC 321) University of Illinois at Chicago Suite 1190, Student Services Building 1200 West Harrison Street Chicago, Illinois 60607-7163 (312) 413-0886 Fax (312) 413-7781 Email: pricek@uic.edu From john.gardner at orst.edu Mon Mar 9 18:39:55 2009 From: john.gardner at orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math Lab accessibility In-Reply-To: <25F108F81838F14ABD90305FAB3BCF02406F4019@exchmb3.uww.edu> References: <25F108F81838F14ABD90305FAB3BCF02406F4019@exchmb3.uww.edu> Message-ID: Hi. I asked Neil Soiffer of Design Science (maker of MathType and MathPlayer to respond to this question. He is their math accessibility expert and probably knows more on this subject than anybody else on earth. Here's his response. He assumes that everybody knows that MathML is accessible! It sounds like they are asking what software/hardware should they for their math labs to make them more accessible. The tiger printers and IVEO are one obvious set of hardware additions that would help. On the software side, making sure MathPlayer is loaded and having a DAISY player (gh and/or Dolphin) loaded is important. The blind math mailing list has had a number of people say pros/cons about various vendor's math computation software -- I haven't kept track about which software works and which doesn't with which AT. The opposite side of the answer is about how they generate content. Making it easy for profs or whomever to generate accessible content is important. That could be XHTML+MathML or DAISY books. So depending on their authoring tools, they should have Word+MathType and maybe the Word Save as DAISY add in when it is out of beta or they should have TeX4ht or LaTeXML or some other tex-to-XHTML+MathML converter. Since they can make sure the labs have IE and Firefox, there is no need to worry about server support for browser's that don't work with MathML. Neil _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wiersma, Constance A Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 9:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Math Lab accessibility Our office has been has been asked to consult with the Math department as they are developing a couple of new labs. Most of our basic assistive technology programs (JAWS, Kurzweil, ZoomText, etc.) are included in the lab image on campus and we have many adjustable work stations on campus. However, we have not done anything special for the math labs and this seems like a good chance to add software that will improve access to math for students. We have used Scientific Notebook in the past for students testing in our area. Does anyone have any suggestions of software/hardware that would enhance these labs? Thank you for your help. Sincerely, Connie Wiersma, Assistant Director Center for Students with Disabilities Andersen Library 2002E University of Wisconsin-Whitewater Whitewater, WI 53190 Ph. 262-472-5244 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 19:33:12 2009 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math Lab accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <25F108F81838F14ABD90305FAB3BCF02406F4019@exchmb3.uww.edu> <6e84aedd0903091057ke53b6e4j7b95f651127479d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e84aedd0903091933s19ccf3edj98801f48da12fde7@mail.gmail.com> Sorry I should have been less generic with my comments. The MathTrax program was designed for high school rocket telemetry functions. It was never designed for students at the University level. It is also from my experience not completely reliable with what can be read in the UI. As far as the AGC from View Plus goes It is not as complete as a TI-80 series calculator. But of course costs three times the TI-83. The feature where you can read the table of results is nice. One thing that I think that it is missing is the ability to follow the curve of the graph by moving a cursor and getting the XY coordinates while you move the cursor up and down or back and forth along the curve. This is a powerful function in the TI-80 calculators. The feedback for the Find Intercept is Kind of clumsy and difficult for students to read. At Cleveland State most of our heavy use of graphing calculators is in the business program. These programs fall short of meeting the requirements of a graphing calculator for business or engineering. Since the TI-80 calculators are not in anyway accessible for blind students, for some work they will have to make due. Jeff On 3/9/09, Gaeir Dietrich wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > Just out of curiosity, what is it that you do not like about the Audio > Graphing Calculator and MathTrax? > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > High Tech Center Training Unit of the > California Community Colleges > De Anza College, Cupertino, CA > www.htctu.net > 408-996-6043 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > The HTCTU provides leadership, training, and support to the California > Community Colleges in using technology to promote the success of students > with disabilities. > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:58 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Math Lab accessibility > >> ViewPlus creates the Audio Graphing Calculator and there is another > company that creates one called the Accessible Graphing Calculator > that work with speech and auditory output for graphing. I really > don't like either of these products but if the student has no other > means of performing complex graphing functions it can make due. The > view plus product can also work with their braille embossers to create > embossed graphs. MathTrax is a free graphing calculator that performs > more basic functions that was made by NASA but it kind of sucks. You > need to evaluate each to make sure that it provides the functions that > your students need. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From ron at ahead.org Tue Mar 10 11:06:44 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Alt Format Proposals Message-ID: <030b01c9a1aa$f8cdd100$ea697300$@org> Afternoon all, For those of you who have started campus alt format programs in the last few years, would you be willing to share with me the proposals you put forward to make this happen. More and more campuses are looking at doing this and I get regular request for this kind of thing. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Please send these to me off list please. Ron ************************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabilities Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never know how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something to look forward to in the morning! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Wed Mar 11 04:56:10 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] AMIS Stability Message-ID: <047601c9a240$5ed98490$1c8c8db0$@org> Hi folks, as anyone had and experience with AMIS the free DAISY player. I am having a lot of problems with its stability and am wondering if anyone else can speak to the program. Ron Stewart ************************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabilities Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never know how your time and efforts will be passed forward. That is something to look forward to in the morning! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at altformatsolutions.com Wed Mar 11 05:44:30 2009 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Eclipse Writer Message-ID: <049201c9a247$1f58f0b0$5e0ad210$@com> Morning all, I have having a very difficult time trying to use Eclipse Writer. Does anyone have a tutorial that they would like to share? Ron **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at kckcc.edu Wed Mar 11 06:00:34 2009 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Eclipse Writer In-Reply-To: <049201c9a247$1f58f0b0$5e0ad210$@com> References: <049201c9a247$1f58f0b0$5e0ad210$@com> Message-ID: <49B76FA2020000CF0002A202@mymail.kckcc.edu> Ron, I'm not sure, but I think Karen McCall has something on her site. You can check it out at http://www.karlencommunications.com I may be wrong about a guide, but she uses the program a lot and knows it very well. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Ron Stewart" 3/11/2009 7:44 AM >>> Morning all, I have having a very difficult time trying to use Eclipse Writer. Does anyone have a tutorial that they would like to share? Ron **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com From ron at ahead.org Wed Mar 11 06:09:07 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Eclipse Writer In-Reply-To: <49B76FA2020000CF0002A202@mymail.kckcc.edu> References: <049201c9a247$1f58f0b0$5e0ad210$@com> <49B76FA2020000CF0002A202@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <04ae01c9a24a$8fbcbb40$af3631c0$@org> Thanks Robert, I am trying not to have to pay for the resource since this is not a program that I typically use. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:01 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Eclipse Writer Ron, I'm not sure, but I think Karen McCall has something on her site. You can check it out at http://www.karlencommunications.com I may be wrong about a guide, but she uses the program a lot and knows it very well. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Ron Stewart" 3/11/2009 7:44 AM >>> Morning all, I have having a very difficult time trying to use Eclipse Writer. Does anyone have a tutorial that they would like to share? Ron **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed Mar 11 07:30:07 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] The Future of Textbooks Message-ID: Interesting article on the future of textbooks, with some great backup information. Something for us alt-format folks to keep an eye on. http://www.thejournal.com/articles/24033/ Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at kckcc.edu Wed Mar 11 08:24:56 2009 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] The Future of Textbooks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49B79178020000CF0002A268@mymail.kckcc.edu> Susan, When I tried the link, it says the article is not available. Any ideas? Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Kelmer, Susan M." 3/11/2009 9:30 AM >>> Interesting article on the future of textbooks, with some great backup information. Something for us alt-format folks to keep an eye on. http://www.thejournal.com/articles/24033/ Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Wed Mar 11 08:28:08 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] The Future of Textbooks In-Reply-To: <49B79178020000CF0002A268@mymail.kckcc.edu> References: <49B79178020000CF0002A268@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: When I click the link, it goes right to the article. It is in The Journal, www.thejournal.com, you might search for it there using "Signs of a Significant Disruption in the Traditional Textbook Model" as your search terms. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Beach > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:25 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; DSSHE- > L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: [Athen] The Future of Textbooks > > Susan, > > When I tried the link, it says the article is not available. Any > ideas? > > > > Robert Lee Beach > Assistive Technology Specialist > Kansas City Kansas Community College > 7250 State Avenue > Kansas City, KS 66112 > Phone: (913) 288-7671 > Fax: (913) 288-7678 > E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu > > >>> "Kelmer, Susan M." 3/11/2009 9:30 AM >>> > Interesting article on the future of textbooks, with some great backup > information. Something for us alt-format folks to keep an eye on. > > > > http://www.thejournal.com/articles/24033/ > > > > Susan Kelmer > > Adaptive Technology Specialist/ > > Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms > > St. Louis Community College - Meramec > > 314-984-7951 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at altformatsolutions.com Wed Mar 11 13:59:06 2009 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: $12 Computer: Playpower Wants to Save the World 8 Bits at a Time Message-ID: <05b001c9a28c$380d0bb0$a8272310$@com> Thought you all might enjoy this Ron SAN JOSE, California ? The Apple II computer is long gone, but its heart beats on in the developing world, where 8-bit computers sell for as little as $12. Now, computer scientists see a way of using those ubiquitous, primitive PCs to help kids learn ? by playing games. "It is about bringing affordable computer learning to the 90 percent of learners in the world who can't afford a $1,000 or even a $100 computer," says Derek Lomas, who is leading the Playpower.org team. The project, first talked about last year, is gathering steam. Lomas and his partners are talking to manufacturing partners in China to produce the $12 systems, which are based on cheap computers already sold throughout the developing world. Some of the computers will be sold through Maker Shed, the e-commerce arm of Make magazine in the United States, while the rest will be distributed through non-profit partners in developing countries. And the Playpower team has collaborated with other groups in the 8-bit computer hacking community to help build educational software for the computers. The Playpower team touted its ambitious project with a high-energy presentation in front of a standing-room-only hotel conference room at ETech 2009 in San Jose. While 8-bit musician Jordan Gray improvised funky digital beats on a PSP, the screen displayed a rapid-fire series of images showing photographs of poor children, screenshots from old 8-bit games like Oregon Trail and relevant stats ("More than 4 billion people earn less than $3,000 per year"). The $12 computing system itself defies conventional expectations of what a computer today should be. The soul of the Apple II and a geek microprocessor favorite of the 1970s, the 8-bit 6502 processor is the heart of these computers. It is small enough to be contained within a full-size keyboard and sold for mere dollars. The keyboard also has a slot for game cartridges, and is usually sold with a mouse and two game controllers. Many of these systems are currently on sale as "TV computers" in Bombay, Bangalore and Nicaragua. They are often packaged in boxes emblazoned with unlicensed cartoon art (Mario, Spiderman) and misspelled English ("Lerrn compiters the fun way!") and are bundled with games that would likely be copyright violations in the United States. And like the early home computers sold in the United States, they plug into a TV screen for display. Although these computers are currently aimed at the gaming market, Playpower.org envisions using them to deliver educational software and learning games to children in developing countries. The project will run on machines that are within the reach for millions of families that make less than $3,000 a year, say Lomas and his partners, Jeremy Douglass and Daniel Rehn, all students at the University of California at San Diego. It's an ambitious project and one that requires just a tad of youthful optimism to pull it off. Dodge a pothole in China or India and you are likely to bump into the carcass of yet another ambitious attempt to bring low-cost computing to the developing world. The MIT Media Lab-backed One Laptop Per Child project planned to bring $100 computers to those in need. That project has never been able to achieve that price point, although OLPC cofounder Mary Lou Jepsen said Tuesday here that more than a million of the project's XO laptops had been shipped to kids in more than 30 countries. Recently, Indian government officials made an announcement of a $10 "computer" that proved to be a dud. "The $100 laptop does a lot of things that makes it expensive, such as its screen, own power system and a faster processor," says Lomas. But Playpower.org offers something different. The group hasn't created a new machine. Instead it builds on something that already exists. Lomas first saw one of these inexpensive 8-bit computer at a computer market in Mumbai where he was on an internship. "There are many manufacturers in India and China that make them since the chip went off patent a few years ago," says Lomas who brought the $12 computer back to the United States. "And while it may not be powerful enough to run YouTube or surf the internet at high speed, it is great for educational games and related ideas." For most Americans, if the 8-bit processor sounds like a blast from the past, it is. The 8-bit 6502 chip technology, along with the Zilog z80, kicked off the U.S. home-computing revolution, aided in part by enthusiast organizations such as the Homebrew Computer Club. Early 6502 home computers included the Apple II, the BBC Micro and the Commodore PET. All of them included the Basic programming language. The 8-bit machines faded away in the United States to be replaced by the Pentiums and Core2Duo processors. But in China and many parts of Asia, the chips are still produced, to the tune of more than a million chips a year, estimates Lomas. And they are very cheap. "Rather than figure out how we can create a cultural niche for a $10 computer, we thought: Let's identify the systems that are affordable and in demand, and put them to work," says Jeremy Douglass, co-founder of Playpower.org. The games that the Playpower.org project is developing for the 8-bit computer will teach users basic skills such as English and typing. And they are working on some fun ideas. Playpower.org has collaborated with 8BitPeoples , a collective of artists focused on applying the 8-bit aesthetic to games and music, says Rehn. The collective provides music that can be used in Playpower's games, for instance. Creating software and games for the $12, 8-bit computer will be easy, says Lomas. After all, it's something even fifth graders can do, sbecause the Basic programming language remains part of the elementary school curriculum in many schools in China and India. (With additional reporting from Dylan Tweney) Photos: Top -- Jeremy Douglass, Derek Lomas and Daniel Rehn jam with collaborator and 8-bit musician Jordan Gray (second from the right) while holding 8-bit computers. Bottom -- Douglass and Lomas chat with Visicalc cofounder Bob Frankston. Photos by Dylan Tweney / Wired.com View article... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Carol.Raymundo at linnbenton.edu Wed Mar 11 15:42:11 2009 From: Carol.Raymundo at linnbenton.edu (Carol Raymundo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] DNS mini course? In-Reply-To: <49B79178020000CF0002A268@mymail.kckcc.edu> References: <49B79178020000CF0002A268@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <49B7DBD2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> I am wondering if any of you offer Dragon Naturally Speaking as a mini course? Our college offers a course but it is very business related and there is a higher level reading involved. Simply put, it is to intense for students who just want to speak their papers and exams. I am interested in making it easy and fun to learn. We have so many students who could benefit from using the program but the class is causing a lot of stress for those who take it. I am interested in any course syllabus that you may have and brief description of what is covered. I am thinking that I would offer 3 or 4 weeks of training twice a term and offer follow-up appointments with those who need additional assistance. I am open for any suggestions and appreciate the help. You may e-mail me off list if you wish. Thank you! Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. 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CSUN DAISY in Higher Education Session Details: . Session ID: PSE-1016 . Title: DAISY in Higher Education . Speakers: Gaeir Dietrich, Jayme Johnson, Sam Ogami . Date: Friday, March 20, 2009 . Start Time: 9:20 AM . End Time: 10:20 AM . Location: Marriott - Meridian One DAISY/EASY Please let me know if you have any questions or experience any difficulties filling out the survey, and thank you for your participation! Jayme Johnson High Tech Center Training Unit (408) 996-6045 http://www.htctu.net The HTCTU provides leadership, training, and support to the California Community Colleges in using technology to promote the success of students with disabilities. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Thu Mar 12 05:51:13 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] DNS mini course? In-Reply-To: <49B7DBD2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> References: <49B79178020000CF0002A268@mymail.kckcc.edu> <49B7DBD2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> Message-ID: To be honest, I think Dragon is so easy to use that I have never done more than spend a few hours training a student to use it. I'd never heard of a class to actually teach a large number to use it. It is pretty easy once you've sat down in front of it. What kinds of things are being taught in the class? Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at kckcc.edu Thu Mar 12 05:59:55 2009 From: rbeach at kckcc.edu (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] DNS mini course? In-Reply-To: References: <49B79178020000CF0002A268@mymail.kckcc.edu> <49B7DBD2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> Message-ID: <49B8C0FB020000CF0002A38C@mymail.kckcc.edu> This has been my experience as well. Most students do not want to bother with advanced features such as creating their own dictionaries, setting up multiple voice prints for various situations, working with digital play back devices, etc. They want to run through the training, do a bit a practice, and start to work. Usually, this is sufficient for them to be productive. I always provide them with a list of voice commands (we use the pro version), but most simply use the mouse, if possible. I too would be interested to know what information is covered in the course. I'd also like to know what information you would be planning to share. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu >>> "Kelmer, Susan M." 3/12/2009 7:51 AM >>> To be honest, I think Dragon is so easy to use that I have never done more than spend a few hours training a student to use it. I'd never heard of a class to actually teach a large number to use it. It is pretty easy once you've sat down in front of it. What kinds of things are being taught in the class? Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From burke at mso.umt.edu Thu Mar 12 08:52:07 2009 From: burke at mso.umt.edu (Burke, Dan (DSS)) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Survey Monkey and Accessibility Message-ID: I am going to take this opportunity to whine about Survey Monkey's accessibility. I've taken two surveys this week at Survey Monkey, and the problem the site has interacting with a screen-reader remains. Survey Monkey, despite their certification for accessibility, presents one ongoing problem for screen-readers. Namely, the entire question is echoed when I arrow over the first choice of the item - on every item. It is possible, therefore, on some of the more complex and long-worded items that the cacophony results in obscuring the first choice, and that I may not make a choice I otherwise would have made. I tried to be aware of this, and even double-checked a couple of them to find that I had made omissions. I noted this problem last year, and tried to engage in a conversation with Survey Monkey. But being the kind of enterprise that they are, they don't do direct e-mail - and don't even think about phone calls. They use a back-end tracking system of their own for such messaging which, unfortunately, I found even more troublesome as far as accessibility goes. As a result, I didn't tell them as much as I have posted here about their problems with access. Done whining. Daniel J. Burke Assistant Director/Coordinator Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406.243.2243 voice/text 406.243.4424 direct line 406.243.5330 fax From Carol.Raymundo at linnbenton.edu Thu Mar 12 09:11:43 2009 From: Carol.Raymundo at linnbenton.edu (Carol Raymundo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] DNS mini course? In-Reply-To: References: <49B79178020000CF0002A268@mymail.kckcc.edu> <49B7DBD2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> Message-ID: <49B8D1CE.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> The class offered here is really aimed for students in our Business Technology programs and it moves very fast (legal secretary, medical office specialist, ect.). They cover every aspect of controlling the computer with DNS (internet, MS Word, Excel, PowerPoint, windows) and get very detailed with formatting in MS Word and other programs. I think it's to much for what students need and I agree that it can be fairly quick to get someone started. Three students who I work with have attempted to take the class this year and have not passed. I don't want them to have this level of frustration for something that could be a lot easier. If I have students who begin in Fall I can't get them started using DNS because the class is offered only in winter and spring terms, it just doesn't make sense to me. >>> "Kelmer, Susan M." 3/12/2009 5:51 AM >>> To be honest, I think Dragon is so easy to use that I have never done more than spend a few hours training a student to use it. I*d never heard of a class to actually teach a large number to use it. It is pretty easy once you*ve sat down in front of it. What kinds of things are being taught in the class? Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mpthornton at ualr.edu Thu Mar 12 09:13:52 2009 From: mpthornton at ualr.edu (Melanie Thornton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Survey Monkey and Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you, Dan.? I've had concerns about this as well.? I've found Survey Gizmo to still do a bit better...and to have more flexibility in terms of inserting instructions to the user.? But they each have their issues. You might consider contacting Jim Thatcher (http://www.jimthatcher.com/index.htm) as he was their consultant on this and since his name is listed in their guide, I'm sure he'd be interested in knowing the barriers that still exist.? He likely has their ear. Melanie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Burke, Dan (DSS)" Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:56 am Subject: [Athen] Survey Monkey and Accessibility To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > I am going to take this opportunity to whine about Survey Monkey's > accessibility.? I've taken two surveys this week at Survey > Monkey, and > the problem the site has interacting with a screen-reader remains. > > Survey Monkey, despite their certification for accessibility, presents > one ongoing problem for screen-readers.? Namely, the entire > question is > echoed when I arrow over the first choice of the item - on every item. > It is possible, therefore, on some of the more complex and long-worded > items that the cacophony results in obscuring the first choice, > and that > I may not make a choice I otherwise would have made.? I > tried to be > aware of this, and even double-checked a couple of them to find > that I > had made omissions. > > I noted this problem last year, and tried to engage in a conversation > with Survey Monkey.? But being the kind of enterprise that > they are, > they don't do direct e-mail - and don't even think about phone calls. > They use a back-end tracking system of their own for such messaging > which, unfortunately, I found even more troublesome as far as > accessibility goes.? As a result, I didn't tell them as > much as I have > posted here about their problems with access. > > Done whining. > > Daniel J. Burke > Assistant Director/Coordinator > Disability Services for Students > Emma B. Lommasson 154 > The University of Montana > Missoula, MT 59812 > > www.umt.edu/dss/ > > 406.243.2243 voice/text > 406.243.4424 direct line > 406.243.5330 fax > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Melanie Thornton Project PACE University of Arkansas at Little Rock 2801 S.? University Ave., DSC #117 Little Rock, AR? 72204 (501) 569-8410 (voice) (501) 650-2239 (cell) (501) 569-3143 (tty) (501) 569-8240 (fax) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dsrisdall at aol.com Thu Mar 12 09:17:37 2009 From: dsrisdall at aol.com (dsrisdall@aol.com) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Webex Message-ID: <8CB714531511CF4-D14-4EC@webmail-md10.sysops.aol.com> Good morning/day Does anyone have any experience with using Webex (http://www.webex.com/) for web conferencing? Im looking for any accessibility or usability issues. Thanks, Don From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Thu Mar 12 09:21:51 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Webex In-Reply-To: <8CB714531511CF4-D14-4EC@webmail-md10.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CB714531511CF4-D14-4EC@webmail-md10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I've been using it as part of the activities I'm involved with with ACCESSText Network. I have not checked it for accessibility. It presents a multi-paned window that shows participants, has a chat, and can show the screen/desktop of the person who is doing the presenting. My biggest complaint with it is that you have to be on the phone at the same time, that's how you "hear" presentations, and there was no captioning in what I was listening to. I would contact Webex and ask them these questions directly. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of dsrisdall@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:18 AM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: [Athen] Webex > > Good morning/day > > Does anyone have any experience with using Webex > (http://www.webex.com/) for web conferencing? Im looking for any > accessibility or usability issues. > > Thanks, > > Don > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From burke at mso.umt.edu Thu Mar 12 09:55:39 2009 From: burke at mso.umt.edu (Burke, Dan (DSS)) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Survey Monkey and Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Melanie, I will. Dan Daniel J. Burke Assistant Director/Coordinator Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406.243.2243 voice/text 406.243.4424 direct line 406.243.5330 fax -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Melanie Thornton Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:14 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Survey Monkey and Accessibility Thank you, Dan. I've had concerns about this as well. I've found Survey Gizmo to still do a bit better...and to have more flexibility in terms of inserting instructions to the user. But they each have their issues. You might consider contacting Jim Thatcher (http://www.jimthatcher.com/index.htm) as he was their consultant on this and since his name is listed in their guide, I'm sure he'd be interested in knowing the barriers that still exist. He likely has their ear. Melanie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Burke, Dan (DSS)" Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:56 am Subject: [Athen] Survey Monkey and Accessibility To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > I am going to take this opportunity to whine about Survey Monkey's > accessibility. I've taken two surveys this week at Survey > Monkey, and > the problem the site has interacting with a screen-reader remains. > > Survey Monkey, despite their certification for accessibility, presents > one ongoing problem for screen-readers. Namely, the entire > question is > echoed when I arrow over the first choice of the item - on every item. > It is possible, therefore, on some of the more complex and long-worded > items that the cacophony results in obscuring the first choice, > and that > I may not make a choice I otherwise would have made. I > tried to be > aware of this, and even double-checked a couple of them to find > that I > had made omissions. > > I noted this problem last year, and tried to engage in a conversation > with Survey Monkey. But being the kind of enterprise that > they are, > they don't do direct e-mail - and don't even think about phone calls. > They use a back-end tracking system of their own for such messaging > which, unfortunately, I found even more troublesome as far as > accessibility goes. As a result, I didn't tell them as > much as I have > posted here about their problems with access. > > Done whining. > > Daniel J. Burke > Assistant Director/Coordinator > Disability Services for Students > Emma B. Lommasson 154 > The University of Montana > Missoula, MT 59812 > > www.umt.edu/dss/ > > 406.243.2243 voice/text > 406.243.4424 direct line > 406.243.5330 fax > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Melanie Thornton Project PACE University of Arkansas at Little Rock 2801 S. University Ave., DSC #117 Little Rock, AR 72204 (501) 569-8410 (voice) (501) 650-2239 (cell) (501) 569-3143 (tty) (501) 569-8240 (fax) From Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu Thu Mar 12 10:22:34 2009 From: Michael.Nusen at ppcc.edu (Nusen, Michael) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] DNS mini course? In-Reply-To: <49B8D1CE.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> References: <49B79178020000CF0002A268@mymail.kckcc.edu><49B7DBD2.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> <49B8D1CE.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> Message-ID: Certainly, a high end student may not need a course. However, we encourage such students to take the course because they make great candidates for work study staff to assist students who do need to take the course. Below is our common course info. entry for a 3-credit version of DNS we used to teach. We teach a scaled down 1 credit version because our population of students had greater needs & couldn't keep pace with the 3 credit version. Our course is intended for the following types of students: 1) Significant impairments. 2) Little/no PC skills. 3) PC access training. 4) A bridge course before they can take other courses that involve a significant amt. of word processing &/or the use of other PC applications. 5) As I mentioned above: Higher end students with disabilities that, although they may not need the course, would be great candidates for being work study students in our AT lab. On rare occasion for really high end students, we permit concurrent enrollment in the course with the work study employment. Course Description: Introduces assistive technology and alternative methods for utilization of computer systems. Depending upon student need or interest, the student selects the AT or method. Options include voice recognition, screen readers, screen enlargement, keyboard modification, word predication, reading enhancement programs and alternative data entry methods. Standard Competencies Competencies View: I. Compare the use of various assistive technology or alternative methods to determine and use best practices II. Apply basic microcomputer skills: logon, start application program, start assistive technology, minimize and maximize programs, exit programs, logoff. III. Demonstrate the use of Help to get Help from General Menu, in specific dialog boxes, and find specific topics in help. IV. Use file feature to create new documents and open existing documents. V. Control print functions to print full, multiple and partial documents. VI. Compare and choose between Save and Save As to save documents with designated name and location. VII. Control data entry features with the most efficient method to enter new text and codes, edit existing text and codes, and delete text and codes. VIII. Determine most efficient selection method and demonstrate use to select text and codes. IX. Identify, compare, determine usage, and apply document enhancement features: A. Text appearance features: convert case, word attributes, relative size, document font face B. Line format features: line spacing, center, flush right, flush right with dot leader C. Paragraph format features: DropCap, borders and fill, indent, hanging indent and dual indent D. Margin changes E. Page format features: center pages, place page numbers in specified location, page border/fill F. Graphics X. Identify, compare, determine usage and apply document correction and writing enhancement features: A. Text and code editing B. The most efficient cursor movement and editing method: find and replace, go to, bookmarks, cut, copy and paste, shortcuts, commands, alternative keystrokes C. The Spell check feature: complete standard spell check of document, word recognition, global characters to find the correct spelling D. The Thesaurus: find alternative words, look up the meaning of words E. The Grammatik feature: improve document grammar. XI. Identify and apply basic file management procedures: create, save, and open files XII. Design method, organize structure and record the process to complete all the above including the adjustments or modifications needed for the assistive technology or alternative method used. Topical Outline Outline View: I. Create, Save, Close and Print II. Open, Edit, Help III. Help IV. Spell, Thesaurus V. Thesaurus VI. Grammar Check VII. Fonts, Convert Case VIII. Line Format IX. Paragraph Format X. Justification and Margins XI. Page Format XII. Graphics Thank you, Michael Nusen Coordinator, OASIS/CAC (Office of Accommodative Services and Instructional Support/Computer Access Center) Pikes Peak Community College michael.nusen@ppcc.edu 719-502-3022 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:12 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] DNS mini course? The class offered here is really aimed for students in our Business Technology programs and it moves very fast (legal secretary, medical office specialist, ect.). They cover every aspect of controlling the computer with DNS (internet, MS Word, Excel, PowerPoint, windows) and get very detailed with formatting in MS Word and other programs. I think it's to much for what students need and I agree that it can be fairly quick to get someone started. Three students who I work with have attempted to take the class this year and have not passed. I don't want them to have this level of frustration for something that could be a lot easier. If I have students who begin in Fall I can't get them started using DNS because the class is offered only in winter and spring terms, it just doesn't make sense to me. >>> "Kelmer, Susan M." 3/12/2009 5:51 AM >>> To be honest, I think Dragon is so easy to use that I have never done more than spend a few hours training a student to use it. I'd never heard of a class to actually teach a large number to use it. It is pretty easy once you've sat down in front of it. What kinds of things are being taught in the class? Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Volunteers for track development at AHG & for recruiting exhibitors I assume we already have an item on ATIA collaboration. -Howard 2009/2/27 Ron Stewart > Good morning all, we have the location for the ATHEN meeting and now we > need your agenda items. > > > > Meeting Date: Thursday March 19th > > Meeting Time: 6:30pm ? 8:00 pm > > Meeting Location: La Jolla room of the Marriott > > > > Agenda Items? > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > > > ************************************************************************* > > Ron Stewart MS > > Technology Advisor > > Association on Higher Education and Disabilities > > Chair AHEAD E-Text Solutions Group > > > > 8300 West Weller St > > Yorktown, IN 47396 > > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > > > ron@ahead.org > > http://www.ahead.org > > *Remember you are making a difference in someone?s life** **and you never > know how your time** **and efforts will be passed forward. ** **That is > something to look forward to in the morning!* > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tft at u.washington.edu Fri Mar 13 08:09:39 2009 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Survey Monkey and Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006601c9a3ed$bba74cd0$32f5e670$@washington.edu> Hi Dan, What you're describing sounds like correct behavior for screen readers when confronting a choice of related options, according to the W3C's User Agent Accessibility Guidelines (UAAG) 1.0. For example, take the following question, and the three options that follow: What is your favorite vegetable? Corn Peas Tomatoes The choices are corn, peas, and tomatoes, so the label element should be used to explicitly associate each of these labels with the corresponding radio button. However, these options are meaningless unless the user knows what the question is. The recommendation therefore is to enclose the whole kit and kaboodle in a
element, with the question marked up as a . UAAG 1.0 recommends that screen readers read both the legend and the label as each item receives focus, and that's exactly what JAWS does (at least through version 9, I haven't checked 10). I agree that this can be cumbersome, particularly if the legend has a lot of text in it. However, on the opposite end of the spectrum we have Window-Eyes which doesn't read legends and labels together, and arguably that lack of association between the two could result in lack of user clarity. This is all explained very well in an older post on the Paciello Group Blog: http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=3 It seems to me that the markup isn't the problem - it's the screen readers (and maybe the UAAG recommendation). Window-Eyes provides too little information, and JAWS (following the UAAG recommendation) provides too much. Maybe there's middle ground somewhere. Maybe users could access the legend at any time with a function key, but not be bothered by it unless they request it. Of course, then you have the problem of users actually knowing this function exists, and most probably won't. In fact, maybe this already exists in a JAWS verbosity setting, but if it does I'm not aware of. The problem with SurveyMonkey is different. They're not using standard markup at all (no fieldsets, no legends). They instead have tucked hidden span elements throughout their forms that provide additional prompts to screen reader users, sort of replicating what JAWS would do if they had used proper HTML. This may be enough to be "Section 508 compliant" in someone's opinion, but it seems to me to be a very bad idea. They, and all web developers, should develop according to the HTML specification and leave it to screen reader developers to figure out how best to present that markup to the user. If users don't like how one screen reader does it, they can use another one that does it differently, or they can influence the screen reader developer and/or W3C to approach the problem differently. Speaking of which, does anyone know how UAAG 2.0 is approaching this problem? Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu 206/221-4168 > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Burke, Dan (DSS) > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:52 AM > To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Survey Monkey and Accessibility > > I am going to take this opportunity to whine about Survey Monkey's > accessibility. I've taken two surveys this week at Survey Monkey, and > the problem the site has interacting with a screen-reader remains. > > Survey Monkey, despite their certification for accessibility, presents > one ongoing problem for screen-readers. Namely, the entire question is > echoed when I arrow over the first choice of the item - on every item. > It is possible, therefore, on some of the more complex and long-worded > items that the cacophony results in obscuring the first choice, and > that > I may not make a choice I otherwise would have made. I tried to be > aware of this, and even double-checked a couple of them to find that I > had made omissions. > > I noted this problem last year, and tried to engage in a conversation > with Survey Monkey. But being the kind of enterprise that they are, > they don't do direct e-mail - and don't even think about phone calls. > They use a back-end tracking system of their own for such messaging > which, unfortunately, I found even more troublesome as far as > accessibility goes. As a result, I didn't tell them as much as I have > posted here about their problems with access. > > Done whining. > > Daniel J. Burke > Assistant Director/Coordinator > Disability Services for Students > Emma B. Lommasson 154 > The University of Montana > Missoula, MT 59812 > > www.umt.edu/dss/ > > 406.243.2243 voice/text > 406.243.4424 direct line > 406.243.5330 fax > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ea at emptech.info Fri Mar 13 09:44:01 2009 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Voice Over and Adobe Digital Editions ebooks? Message-ID: <00a201c9a3fa$ef279530$cd76bf90$@info> I seem to remember we discussed the accessibility of Adobe Digital Editions ebooks some time ago and we found we could not even access sections of the site with a screen reader but has anyone tried the books with Apple's Voice Over? Many thanks. Have fun at CSUN those who are going and please tell us the latest news :>)) Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:DIS-FORUM@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of B.G.Whitehouse@lboro.ac.uk Sent: 13 March 2009 15:54 To: DIS-FORUM@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: email address for Adobe Accessibility Centre Is there an email address for Adobe's Accessibility Centre? I want to know if Apple's VoiceOver screen reader works with Adobe Digital Editions ebooks. Apple can't tell me which doesn't augur well, but one can but hope.... Guy No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/1999 - Release Date: 03/13/09 05:59:00 From hkramer at colorado.edu Thu Mar 12 10:56:18 2009 From: hkramer at colorado.edu (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Proposals now being accepted for 2009 Accessing Higher Ground Message-ID: Hello All: I'm pleased to announce that proposals are now being accepted for our 2009 Accessing Higher Ground Conference, to be held Nov. 10 - 14 at the Westin Hotel in Westminster, CO. This year's keynote speaker is the renowned T.V Raman, Research Scientist from Google, Inc. The speaker proposal form is attached and is also available at the conference site: http://www.colorado.edu/ATconference. In addition, if anyone is interested in organizing a track of sessions or to be on a proposal review committee, let me know. 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But the answer to your question, as far as my testing leads me to believe, is that these books are not accessible on the Mac either. Regards, Pratik -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of E.A. Draffan Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 12:44 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Voice Over and Adobe Digital Editions ebooks? I seem to remember we discussed the accessibility of Adobe Digital Editions ebooks some time ago and we found we could not even access sections of the site with a screen reader but has anyone tried the books with Apple's Voice Over? Many thanks. Have fun at CSUN those who are going and please tell us the latest news :>)) Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:DIS-FORUM@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of B.G.Whitehouse@lboro.ac.uk Sent: 13 March 2009 15:54 To: DIS-FORUM@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: email address for Adobe Accessibility Centre Is there an email address for Adobe's Accessibility Centre? I want to know if Apple's VoiceOver screen reader works with Adobe Digital Editions ebooks. Apple can't tell me which doesn't augur well, but one can but hope.... Guy No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/1999 - Release Date: 03/13/09 05:59:00 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 07:47:04 2009 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question re Mac and PowerPoint Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20090316074346.02365b98@pop.gmail.com> I was providing some information about PowerPoint to a group of faculty. Some of them were using it on a Mac. I gave instructions on how to add text description to an image in powerpoint. The PC people did OK. The Mac people right clicked on the image and they said they could see where the edit box was to add text but it and its associated button were grayed out and they could not access the text box to put anything into it. I had no idea what was the problem or how to fix it. Has anyone on the list experienced this and also have you found a solution??? Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From Ted.Harvey at dcu.ie Mon Mar 16 07:58:03 2009 From: Ted.Harvey at dcu.ie (Ted Harvey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question re Mac and PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20090316074346.02365b98@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090316074346.02365b98@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: Norm this manual may have what your looking for.. http://gsesrv03.gse.uci.edu/~aormond/documents/PowerPoint%202004.pdf Regards, Ted ____________________ Ted Harvey Disability Officer Disability & Learning Support Service Dublin City University Ph: 01 700 5208 Fax: 01 700 8661 Email: Ted.Harvey@dcu.ie -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: 16 March 2009 14:47 To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Question re Mac and PowerPoint I was providing some information about PowerPoint to a group of faculty. Some of them were using it on a Mac. I gave instructions on how to add text description to an image in powerpoint. The PC people did OK. The Mac people right clicked on the image and they said they could see where the edit box was to add text but it and its associated button were grayed out and they could not access the text box to put anything into it. I had no idea what was the problem or how to fix it. Has anyone on the list experienced this and also have you found a solution??? Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 10:38:41 2009 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question re Mac and PowerPoint In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090316074346.02365b98@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20090316103835.0233fb08@pop.gmail.com> Thanks Ted. Norm At 07:58 AM 3/16/2009, you wrote: >Norm this manual may have what your looking for.. > >http://gsesrv03.gse.uci.edu/~aormond/documents/PowerPoint%202004.pdf > > >Regards, >Ted >____________________ >Ted Harvey >Disability Officer >Disability & Learning Support Service >Dublin City University >Ph: 01 700 5208 >Fax: 01 700 8661 >Email: Ted.Harvey@dcu.ie > > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs >Sent: 16 March 2009 14:47 >To: athen-athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] Question re Mac and PowerPoint > >I was providing some information about PowerPoint to a group of faculty. >Some of them were using it on a Mac. I gave instructions on how to add text >description to an image in powerpoint. The PC people did OK. The Mac >people right clicked on the image and they said they could see where the >edit box was to add text but it and its associated button were grayed out >and they could not access the text box to put anything into it. > >I had no idea what was the problem or how to fix it. > >Has anyone on the list experienced this and also have you found a >solution??? >Norm > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com >CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE >pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: >http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From greg at lecshare.com Mon Mar 16 16:14:17 2009 From: greg at lecshare.com (Greg Kraus) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question re Mac and PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20090316074346.02365b98@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090316074346.02365b98@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Norm, Unfortunately, the Mac version of PowerPoint does not support alternate text for images. Greg -- Greg Kraus President LecShare, Inc. 1204 Fairlane Rd. Cary, NC 27511 919.413.2100 (voice) 919.882.1275 (fax) www.lecshare.com On Mar 16, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Prof Norm Coombs wrote: > I was providing some information about PowerPoint to a group of > faculty. Some of them were using it on a Mac. I gave instructions > on how to add text description to an image in powerpoint. The PC > people did OK. The Mac people right clicked on the image and they > said they could see where the edit box was to add text but it and > its associated button were grayed out and they could not access the > text box to put anything into it. > > I had no idea what was the problem or how to fix it. > > Has anyone on the list experienced this and also have you found a > solution??? > Norm > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com > CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information > phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) > ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: > http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From info at karlencommunications.com Tue Mar 17 06:15:47 2009 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question re Mac and PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20090316103835.0233fb08@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090316074346.02365b98@pop.gmail.com> <6.0.3.0.2.20090316103835.0233fb08@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010201c9a702$7c6189b0$75249d10$@com> This is the same in Word 2008 for Mac and previous versions of Office for Mac. Microsoft is aware of the issue. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:39 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re Mac and PowerPoint Thanks Ted. Norm At 07:58 AM 3/16/2009, you wrote: >Norm this manual may have what your looking for.. > >http://gsesrv03.gse.uci.edu/~aormond/documents/PowerPoint%202004.pdf > > >Regards, >Ted >____________________ >Ted Harvey >Disability Officer >Disability & Learning Support Service >Dublin City University >Ph: 01 700 5208 >Fax: 01 700 8661 >Email: Ted.Harvey@dcu.ie > > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs >Sent: 16 March 2009 14:47 >To: athen-athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] Question re Mac and PowerPoint > >I was providing some information about PowerPoint to a group of faculty. >Some of them were using it on a Mac. I gave instructions on how to add text >description to an image in powerpoint. The PC people did OK. The Mac >people right clicked on the image and they said they could see where the >edit box was to add text but it and its associated button were grayed out >and they could not access the text box to put anything into it. > >I had no idea what was the problem or how to fix it. > >Has anyone on the list experienced this and also have you found a >solution??? >Norm > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com >CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE >pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: >http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From hkramer at colorado.edu Tue Mar 17 07:24:11 2009 From: hkramer at colorado.edu (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Mac vs. Windows for low vision & speech recognition Message-ID: Hello All: I'm working with someone who needs speech recognition and moderate screen enlargement - not necessarily through zoomtext - enlarged font and operating system scheme would probably suffice. This person is pushing for a Mac. I know the new Mac Speech Dictate is supposed to be very good but does anyone have an opinion on the Mac platform for this type of situation. I also worry about keyboard control through the Mac - my memory is that you don't have as much keyboard control. Thanks, Howard -- Howard Kramer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christopher.doucet at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 07:33:03 2009 From: christopher.doucet at gmail.com (Christopher Doucet) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] Mac vs. Windows for low vision & speech recognition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49BFB49F.4080908@gmail.com> Hi Howard, Most of the Mac keyboard shortcuts are activated when using VoiceOver along with the Zoom feature (setting the VoiceOver cursor to follow the mouse and keyboard cursors will also allow the user greater ease of access with Zoom). The most troubling part of the situation is MacSpeech Dictate. The software works well with simple dictation, but the commands are awkward and not always recognized by the software. This has slightly improved with recent updates, but I am still not pleased with the commands. If the user wants only to dictate papers, then a Mac should suffice. If they want to navigate the computer using only their voice, I would recommend a Windows machine. Best, Chris Chris Doucet Academic Computing Analyst Teachers College - Columbia University Howard Kramer wrote: > Hello All: > > I'm working with someone who needs speech recognition and moderate > screen enlargement - not necessarily through zoomtext - enlarged font > and operating system scheme would probably suffice. This person is > pushing for a Mac. I know the new Mac Speech Dictate is supposed to be > very good but does anyone have an opinion on the Mac platform for this > type of situation. I also worry about keyboard control through the Mac > - my memory is that you don't have as much keyboard control. > > Thanks, > Howard > > > -- > Howard Kramer > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From skeegan at stanford.edu Tue Mar 17 14:52:57 2009 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] Come meet the Web Development Committee at CSUN Message-ID: <162556574.3056191237326777027.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu> Join the ATHEN Web Development Committee at CSUN! The ATHEN Web Development Committee manages the Web presence for ATHEN, including the main ATHEN site, the wiki, and e-mail discussion list. The committee will be meeting to discuss the current functionality and future directions for the ATHEN Web platforms. If you would like to contribute to the Web content for ATHEN, come join the group. Date: Wednesday, March 18 Time: 12:00PM Location: Lobby of LAX - Marriott Hope to see you there, Sean From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 07:21:40 2009 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] Online Math Test Message-ID: <6e84aedd0903180721h1478ec1fh1f28f362ea2e2189@mail.gmail.com> Hello I'm looking for a little feedback on a plan for online assessment testing for mathmatics. The plan that I am workin on is to create a test in blackboard that uses image files to represent the math expressions and provides LaTex code in an alt tag for describing those expressions. It for the most part would be a standard blackboard test with question catagories that will make questions somewhat random and randomized order for answers. We will be making this available as an alternative to MapleSoft assessments which are not accessible to screen readers. I am trying to mathc the availability of the MapleSoft product because our students can now take the assessment test at home. What I am looking for feedback on is the use of LaTex. We use MathML for tests and alt text and this will be my first use of LaTex. I have created a tutorial that will explain the code for LaTex for students that this may be their first experience with the code. Do any of you have tips on best bractices that you have gotten through your experiences? I find MathML easier to understand but unfortunately in Blackboard it is not an option that works in the Assessments. Thanks Jeff Jeffrey Dell Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Disability Services Cleveland State University Phone: 216-875-9938 E-mail: j.dell@csuohio.edu From hadi at illinois.edu Wed Mar 18 07:51:50 2009 From: hadi at illinois.edu (Hadi Rangin) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] Online Math Test References: <6e84aedd0903180721h1478ec1fh1f28f362ea2e2189@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jeff, I passed your question to our Blackboard collaboration partners and here's their response: Hi Hadi, This question (or similar) came to us at Bb last week as well. This is not something that we are extremely familiar with *yet* so we are doing some investigation before providing guidance. MathML is indeed supported all over, but I'm not sure yet how LaTex plays into that. We've heard that the MathML in the classic product at least is not the friendliest with screen-readers, so that's where we are looking first. We'll be sure to update you with what we learn and will probably have some questions for you and the design group when we get a chance to dive deeper. Thanks for letting us know! Stephanie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Dell" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:21 AM Subject: [Athen] Online Math Test > Hello > I'm looking for a little feedback on a plan for online assessment > testing for mathmatics. The plan that I am workin on is to create a > test in blackboard that uses image files to represent the math > expressions and provides LaTex code in an alt tag for describing those > expressions. It for the most part would be a standard blackboard test > with question catagories that will make questions somewhat random and > randomized order for answers. We will be making this available as an > alternative to MapleSoft assessments which are not accessible to > screen readers. I am trying to mathc the availability of the > MapleSoft product because our students can now take the assessment > test at home. > What I am looking for feedback on is the use of LaTex. We use MathML > for tests and alt text and this will be my first use of LaTex. I have > created a tutorial that will explain the code for LaTex for students > that this may be their first experience with the code. Do any of you > have tips on best bractices that you have gotten through your > experiences? I find MathML easier to understand but unfortunately in > Blackboard it is not an option that works in the Assessments. > Thanks > Jeff > > Jeffrey Dell > Assistive Technology Specialist > Office of Disability Services > Cleveland State University > Phone: 216-875-9938 > E-mail: j.dell@csuohio.edu > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 08:58:11 2009 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] Online Math Test In-Reply-To: References: <6e84aedd0903180721h1478ec1fh1f28f362ea2e2189@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e84aedd0903180858s32058feai1623107dedd97121@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Hadi If Blackboard would support MathML for this application I may still not use it. MathPlayer still only works in IE on Windows computers. On campus I can somewhat control the environment but with the available FREE screen readers in Mac OS and Linux I do't want to limit the solutions to only use in Internet explorer. Browsers not displaying MathML equally is the reason that MapleSoft gave me for not using MathML in their testing system to display info. In our install of Blackboard we have WebEQ for creating equations. This is a Design Science product. I can imagine that the program can create MathML for display in the browser. I know that you can import MathML to blackboard for WebEQ to generate equations. Mostly what is missing is the coding at the top of the page that you need to use to declare that MathML will be used on a webpage. There is a specific DOCTYPE element that you need to use. That is why you can't choose to use HTML and copy and paste the code. I would like to see them support MathML as output in the future. Thanks Jeff On 3/18/09, Hadi Rangin wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > I passed your question to our Blackboard collaboration partners and here's > their response: > > Hi Hadi, > This question (or similar) came to us at Bb last week as well. This is not > something that we are extremely familiar with *yet* so we are doing some > investigation > before providing guidance. MathML is indeed supported all over, but I'm not > sure yet how LaTex plays into that. We've heard that the MathML in the > classic > product at least is not the friendliest with screen-readers, so that's where > we are looking first. > > We'll be sure to update you with what we learn and will probably have some > questions for you and the design group when we get a chance to dive deeper. > > Thanks for letting us know! > > Stephanie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeffrey Dell" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:21 AM > Subject: [Athen] Online Math Test > > >> Hello >> I'm looking for a little feedback on a plan for online assessment >> testing for mathmatics. The plan that I am workin on is to create a >> test in blackboard that uses image files to represent the math >> expressions and provides LaTex code in an alt tag for describing those >> expressions. It for the most part would be a standard blackboard test >> with question catagories that will make questions somewhat random and >> randomized order for answers. We will be making this available as an >> alternative to MapleSoft assessments which are not accessible to >> screen readers. I am trying to mathc the availability of the >> MapleSoft product because our students can now take the assessment >> test at home. >> What I am looking for feedback on is the use of LaTex. We use MathML >> for tests and alt text and this will be my first use of LaTex. I have >> created a tutorial that will explain the code for LaTex for students >> that this may be their first experience with the code. Do any of you >> have tips on best bractices that you have gotten through your >> experiences? I find MathML easier to understand but unfortunately in >> Blackboard it is not an option that works in the Assessments. >> Thanks >> Jeff >> >> Jeffrey Dell >> Assistive Technology Specialist >> Office of Disability Services >> Cleveland State University >> Phone: 216-875-9938 >> E-mail: j.dell@csuohio.edu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From pminyard at memphis.edu Thu Mar 19 12:34:16 2009 From: pminyard at memphis.edu (Phillip M Minyard (pminyard)) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] Eclipse Message-ID: Here is RTI's link to the Eclipse manual. Download the zip file and extract it. http://www.irti.net/eclipse/support/bulletins/index.html Phillip Minyard Disability Services Coordinator Student Disability Services University of Memphis 110 Wilder Tower Memphis, TN 38152-3520 Voice 678-2880 - fax 678-3070 "Education is what survives when what has been learned has been forgotten." B. F. Skinner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpuzz at msu.edu Tue Mar 24 08:13:44 2009 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote realtime Captioning? References: Message-ID: Hello, Just curious as to whether others are offering any internet based remote realtime captioning services to students? If so, what sort of setup are you using? Currently, We are experimenting with the process. We've cobbled together a system that works as follows; Student takes a laptop to class. The laptop has Skype and the Lotus Unyte desktop sharing software installed. Student skypes the captioner and they begin desktop sharing. In some of our big lecture halls, when available, we have connected the student's laptop directly into the room's FM system. Over all, results have been mixed. When things work, they work relatively well; However, audio reception of questions from other students is problematic. We've also experienced any number of internet/bandwidth related issues. I think many of those are due to the fact that students are typically connected to the net via wireless. I've recommended we hard wire whenever possible; but that's often easier said than done. In any case if others are doing this sort of thing, I would be very interested in sharing experiences. Thanks in advance, Al Puzzuoli Michigan State University Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 517-884-1915 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Take care, Sean From asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca Tue Mar 24 15:42:05 2009 From: asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca (Jennison Mark Asuncion) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] this year's CSUN conference? Message-ID: Hello, Feel free to reply to me off-list if you wish - I am wondering how this year's CSUN Conference went overall? I guess I missed the fact that they are no longer using the Hilton. It's been since '06 since my last one, and I have heard with ATIA and Accessing Higher Ground that attendance is on the decline at CSUN. Jennison Jennison Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison From ron at ahead.org Wed Mar 25 14:23:14 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Call Congress to Support Funding for New Programs to Improve Postsecondary Education Message-ID: <012601c9ad8f$ea78be80$bf6a3b80$@org> Please help with getting this word out, this is such a necessary thing! Ron Stewart From: The National Center for Learning Disabilities [mailto:ncld@ncld.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 4:40 PM To: ron@ahead.org Subject: Call Congress to Support Funding for New Programs to Improve Postsecondary Education Plain Newsletter banner Dear Ron, Laura Kaloi These first few months of 2009 have been exceptionally busy here in Washington! We have been working hard on issues related to the transition to the new President's administration, the beginning of a new session of Congress with many new members, and passing of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, which provides unprecedented federal funds for education, including special education. Today, I'm writing to ask for your immediate help on another issue. Last fall Congress passed the long overdue reauthorization of the Higher Education Act. As a result of our strong and persistent advocacy efforts, the updated law the Higher Education Opportunity Act (HEOA) - includes a number of exciting new provisions aimed at improving both access to and success in postsecondary education for students with disabilities. Now that these new provisions are in the HEOA, it's time to ask our elected officials to allocate federal funding to get them implemented. The House of Representatives is currently working on the federal budget for FY 2010, which begins in just a few short months. These new initiatives will not happen without specific budget allocations! Among these new provisions are the: * National Center for Information and Technical Support for Postsecondary Students with Disabilities This new center will assist current and prospective students with disabilities, assist faculty, staff, and administration of institutions of higher education to improve services, accommodations, retention rates, and completion rates of students with disabilities, and evaluate, improve, and disseminate information related to the delivery of high quality disability support services at institutions of higher education and report recommendations. * Model Demonstration Programs to Support Improved Access to Postsecondary Instructional Materials for Students with Print Disabilities These new programs will promote the development of systems to improve the quality and timely delivery of course materials in specialized formats for students with print disabilities. * Teach to Reach New grants to help prepare general education teachers to be better prepared to instruct students with disabilities. In addition, we are asking Congress for continued funding of a grant program first authorized in 1998: * Demonstration Projects to Support Postsecondary Faculty, Staff, and Administrators in Educating Students with Disabilities Grants made to institutions of higher education for development of model practices for faculty so that they are skilled in instructing students with disabilities. Activities for these grants were expanded in the new law and now include the development of: teaching methods and strategies; effective transition practices; distance learning; and disability career pathways. To make all of this a reality, we need your support! By April 1st, please take the following action to get these exciting new programs going: * Call your member of the House of Representatives and urge them to support funding for all of the new provisions in the HEOA designed to improve postsecondary education for students with disabilities. To find the contact information for your member of the House of Representatives, click here. * Ask your House member to express support by signing on to a "Dear Colleague" letter of support, initiated by Representative Yarmuth (D - KY 3rd District - phone: 202.225.5401). Together we can make these important new provisions begin to help students with learning disabilities become more successful in postsecondary education - helping them to achieve a successful life! On behalf of the 2.5 million students with learning disabilities and the professionals who work with them, the National Center for Learning Disabilities appreciates your continued support. Sincerely, Laura Kaloi-signature Laura Kaloi Public Policy Director National Center for Learning Disabilities P.S. Our LD Advocates Guide is always available to assist you with local, state and federal level policy advocacy efforts on behalf of people with LD. _____ Unsubscribe from receiving email, or change your email preferences. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edward at ngtvoice.com Wed Mar 25 14:25:00 2009 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote realtime Captioning? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009501c9ad90$28c67380$7a535a80$@com> Al-I'm hoping to do a presentation on the topic of using speech to text software capabilities for real-time captioning at the October ATIA conference in Chicago (Schaumburg). I'm not sure if this is on-topic, but I do have some information posted at: http://www.ngtvoice.com/services/assistive/transcription.htm Hope that helps. -ed. Edward S. Rosenthal President and CEO Next Generation Technologies, Inc. (NGT Inc.) 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 Lynnwood, Wa. 998036-6334 Ph: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 Fx: 425-778-5547 Skype: ed.rosenthal7 EM: edward@ngtvoice.com and This document may have been dictated with speech recognition software. Please disregard any remaining miscrecognitions. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:14 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Remote realtime Captioning? Hello, Just curious as to whether others are offering any internet based remote realtime captioning services to students? If so, what sort of setup are you using? Currently, We are experimenting with the process. We've cobbled together a system that works as follows; Student takes a laptop to class. The laptop has Skype and the Lotus Unyte desktop sharing software installed. Student skypes the captioner and they begin desktop sharing. In some of our big lecture halls, when available, we have connected the student's laptop directly into the room's FM system. Over all, results have been mixed. When things work, they work relatively well; However, audio reception of questions from other students is problematic. We've also experienced any number of internet/bandwidth related issues. I think many of those are due to the fact that students are typically connected to the net via wireless. I've recommended we hard wire whenever possible; but that's often easier said than done. In any case if others are doing this sort of thing, I would be very interested in sharing experiences. Thanks in advance, Al Puzzuoli Michigan State University Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 517-884-1915 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(NGT Inc.) 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 Lynnwood, Wa. 98036-6334 Ph: 425-744-1100 ext. 15 Fx: 425-778-5547 Skype: ed.rosenthal7 EM: edward@ngtvoice.com http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com This document may have been dictated with speech recognition software. Please disregard any remaining miscrecognitions. From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Hausler,Jesse Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:49 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTVs Hello all, We are researching portable CCTVs, and were curious if any of you had an opinion. Two I have come across are the Amigo and the Olympia: http://www.visual-techconnection.com/amigo.htm http://www.enablemart.com/Olympia-Video-Magnifier I read the thread on this board from October 2007, but didn't find any of the items mentioned there to be as "portable" as we are looking for. Any advise would be appreciated. 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Two I have come across are the Amigo and the Olympia: http://www.visual-techconnection.com/amigo.htm http://www.enablemart.com/Olympia-Video-Magnifier I read the thread on this board from October 2007, but didn't find any of the items mentioned there to be as "portable" as we are looking for. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Jesse Hausler Assistive Technology Resource Center Colorado State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 09:39:25 2009 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS in Japanese Message-ID: <6e84aedd0903270939h427de149q8ac6f2c18764d334@mail.gmail.com> Hello Fall semester I have a blind student taking a Japanese course. We have the usual stuff setup. We have a tutor for him. JAWS will read Japanese characters and there is a nice Real Speak voice but I don't know how the braille support works. I've read that IRIS recognizes the Eastern languages pretty well so that is probably what we will get for OCR. Do any of you have any experience with a blind student taking Japanese? We've had a lot of students in Spanish and French but have never had a blind student in an Eastern language course. I've been told that the beginning of the course involves the students learning how to draw the characters. It should be interesting. Jeff Cleveland State From ron at ahead.org Sun Mar 29 06:00:30 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] STEM Image Description for Digital Talking Books Message-ID: <014e01c9b06e$57939270$06bab750$@org> Morning all, The topic of how to provide descriptive text to images comes up regularly and here are some new guidelines that you may find useful. Ron Stewart >From: Bryan Gould > >The WGBH National Center for Accessible Media announces >research-based Guidelines for Describing STEM Images for use within >Digital Talking Books. > >http://ncam.wgbh.org/publications/stemdx/index.html > >These guidelines are the result of a seminal effort, funded by the >National Science Foundation, to develop recommended practices for >descriptions of science, technology, engineering and math images >within digital talking books (DTBs). The work was jointly undertaken >by leading organizations that pioneered description for visually >impaired users and are currently shaping national policy and >practices for the provision of accessible materials in electronic formats. > >NCAM staff will be providing training for implementing these STEM >Description Guidelines at conferences and through webinars. If you >or your organization would like to participate in a webinar, please >contact Bryan Gould, bryan_gould@wgbh.org > >Thank you to the many, many of you who participated in this project >during the research phase and to those of you who have expressed >interest in the outcome. Implementing the recommendations provided >in these Guidelines will be a significant step in providing >independent access to STEM material for students and professionals. > >Thank you, >bg >-- >Bryan Gould > >Media Access Group >Descriptive Video Service >Carl and Ruth Shapiro Family National Center for Accessible Media > >WGBH Educational Foundation >One Guest Street >Boston, MA 02135 >bryan_gould@wgbh.org >617 300-3472 >http://ncam.wgbh.org/dtb/ > From mamoru at bfp.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp Sun Mar 29 16:02:49 2009 From: mamoru at bfp.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Mamoru IWABUCHI) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS in Japanese In-Reply-To: <6e84aedd0903270939h427de149q8ac6f2c18764d334@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e84aedd0903270939h427de149q8ac6f2c18764d334@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003201c9b0c2$7bb14950$7313dbf0$@rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Hi. Jaws is already localized in Japanese and also supports Braille. One important point about Japanese screen reader is that it is Not just a front user interface with Japanese text-to-speech (TTS) engine. It needs a special dictionary for Kanji (Chinese) characters. There are over 3,000 Kanji characters we usually use. When typing Japanese, the system tells the user a list of possible Kanji characters for the pronunciation the user typed. Then the user chooses one from the list. You may want to email the vendor and ask how to buy Jaws in Japanese online. Email: support@extra.co.jp Website: http://www.extra.co.jp/jaws/ The most popular screen reader in Japan is the one called "PC-Talker", by the way. Website: http://www.pctalker.net/ Both software require Japanese Windows OS. What I am not sure is if the Japanese screen readers above are good for the learners of Japanese. If the learners are interested in speaking, reading, and just simple (Hiragana) writing in Japanese, English-based screen reader with Japanese TTS engine might be good enough or better. I hope this helps. I worked at the DO-IT, the University of Washington, for a year. It is good to be still in this listserv after I came back to Japan. Thank you. Best regards, Mamoru ----- Dr Mamoru Iwabuchi RCAST, the Univ. of Tokyo 4-6-1-#3-408, Komaba, Meguro, Tokyo 153-8904, JAPAN Tel & Fax: +81-(0)3-5452-5490 E-mail: mamoru@bfp.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell > Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 1:39 AM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: [Athen] JAWS in Japanese > > Hello > Fall semester I have a blind student taking a Japanese course. > We have the usual stuff setup. We have a tutor for him. JAWS will > read Japanese characters and there is a nice Real Speak voice but I > don't know how the braille support works. I've read that IRIS > recognizes the Eastern languages pretty well so that is probably what > we will get for OCR. Do any of you have any experience with a blind > student taking Japanese? > We've had a lot of students in Spanish and French but have never had a > blind student in an Eastern language course. I've been told that the > beginning of the course involves the students learning how to draw the > characters. It should be interesting. > Jeff > Cleveland State > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jhausler at cahs.colostate.edu Mon Mar 30 11:36:35 2009 From: jhausler at cahs.colostate.edu (Hausler,Jesse) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTVs In-Reply-To: <8C2BBC4329A84157977AB6B70D839B36@DCU84626D62DFF> References: <009501c9ad90$28c67380$7a535a80$@com> <3F3B6F21B523744BBA0EF420CCD8078F85BAD95EE3@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> <8C2BBC4329A84157977AB6B70D839B36@DCU84626D62DFF> Message-ID: <3F3B6F21B523744BBA0EF420CCD8078F85BAD95EED@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU> These appear to be very creative plays on portable magnifiers. Thanks to everyone for the ideas. Jesse From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ted Harvey Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 6:09 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Portable CCTVs Jesse I have used the The Eclipse Plus is a 15 inch CCTV reader and have had good feed back from students, have a look at http://www.ashtech.ie/tp_productmenu.asp?pid=9 Regards, Ted ____________________ Ted Harvey Disability Officer Disability & Learning Support Service Dublin City University Ph: 01 700 5208 Fax: 01 700 8661 Email: Ted.Harvey@dcu.ie ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Hausler,Jesse Sent: 26 March 2009 18:49 To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTVs Hello all, We are researching portable CCTVs, and were curious if any of you had an opinion. Two I have come across are the Amigo and the Olympia: http://www.visual-techconnection.com/amigo.htm http://www.enablemart.com/Olympia-Video-Magnifier I read the thread on this board from October 2007, but didn't find any of the items mentioned there to be as "portable" as we are looking for. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Jesse Hausler Assistive Technology Resource Center Colorado State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer at colorado.edu Mon Mar 30 16:13:00 2009 From: hkramer at colorado.edu (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] tips for converting a photoshop doc to accessible pdf Message-ID: Hello All: When I save a flyer created in photoshop to pdf, it seems to produce an image only pdf. I've tried to save under a number of settings but without luck. The accessibility site at Adobe only mentions color blindness issues under Photoshop accessibility. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Howard -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Mar 30 16:21:33 2009 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] a multimedia and Web question Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20090330161744.0228ac48@pop.gmail.com> I have a video with captions that play in realplayer. So far so good. I want to embed it into a page so that when the page comes up, it will automatically play. Also that works too BUT! I can embed a windowsmedia video into a Web page which uses an embedded player and does NOT play through the users software on his/her computer. When I do reaplayer video it is activating the reaplayer on my desktop. Some users may not have it and I'd like to play it so the player would be in the Web page and not use the one on the desktop like I have done with windowsmedia player. Is this possible? Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From jbailey at uoregon.edu Mon Mar 30 16:40:24 2009 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] tips for converting a photoshop doc to accessible pdf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1238456424.668404.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> My guess is you will need to run the pic only pdf through something like omnipage. -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1501 Kincaid St. Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:13:00 -0600, Howard Kramer wrote: > Hello All: > > When I save a flyer created in photoshop to pdf, it seems to produce > an image only pdf. I've tried to save under a number of settings but > without luck. The accessibility site at Adobe only mentions color > blindness issues under Photoshop accessibility. Any help would be > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Howard > > -- > Howard Kramer > AHG Conference Coordinator > Access Specialist > 303-492-8672 > fax: 492-5601 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From JElmer at vcccd.edu Mon Mar 30 16:46:21 2009 From: JElmer at vcccd.edu (John Elmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] tips for converting a photoshop doc to accessible pdf In-Reply-To: <1238456424.668404.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> References: <1238456424.668404.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: Or perhaps the OCR in Acrobat Pro. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:40 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] tips for converting a photoshop doc to accessible pdf My guess is you will need to run the pic only pdf through something like omnipage. -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1501 Kincaid St. Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:13:00 -0600, Howard Kramer wrote: > Hello All: > > When I save a flyer created in photoshop to pdf, it seems to produce > an image only pdf. I've tried to save under a number of settings but > without luck. The accessibility site at Adobe only mentions color > blindness issues under Photoshop accessibility. Any help would be > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Howard > > -- > Howard Kramer > AHG Conference Coordinator > Access Specialist > 303-492-8672 > fax: 492-5601 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From hkramer.atsol at gmail.com Mon Mar 30 17:29:05 2009 From: hkramer.atsol at gmail.com (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] tips for converting a photoshop doc to accessible pdf In-Reply-To: References: <1238456424.668404.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: So you mean if you create a file in photoshop - I created this file - there's no way to save it or export it from photoshop to an accessible pdf format (without doing ocr on the export)? Thanks for all your input. -Howard On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:46 PM, John Elmer wrote: > Or perhaps the OCR in Acrobat Pro. > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of James Bailey > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:40 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] tips for converting a photoshop doc to accessible pdf > > > My guess is you will need to run the pic only pdf through something like omnipage. > -- > James Bailey > Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon > 1501 Kincaid St. > Eugene, OR 97403-1299 > Office: 541-346-1076 > jbailey@uoregon.edu > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:13:00 -0600, Howard Kramer wrote: >> Hello All: >> >> When I save a flyer created in photoshop to pdf, it seems to produce >> an image only pdf. I've tried to save under a number of settings but >> without luck. The accessibility site at Adobe only mentions color >> blindness issues under Photoshop accessibility. Any help would be >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> Howard >> >> -- >> Howard Kramer >> AHG Conference Coordinator >> Access Specialist >> 303-492-8672 >> fax: 492-5601 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 From john.gardner at orst.edu Mon Mar 30 17:46:19 2009 From: john.gardner at orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] tips for converting a photoshop doc to accessible pdf In-Reply-To: References: <1238456424.668404.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: Howard, Photoshopknows only bit maps. So to get real text you gotta use OCR. By the way, the OCR in MS Document Image Writer, which is part of MS Office, is excellent. John -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:29 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] tips for converting a photoshop doc to accessible pdf So you mean if you create a file in photoshop - I created this file - there's no way to save it or export it from photoshop to an accessible pdf format (without doing ocr on the export)? Thanks for all your input. -Howard On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:46 PM, John Elmer wrote: > Or perhaps the OCR in Acrobat Pro. > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] > On Behalf Of James Bailey > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:40 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] tips for converting a photoshop doc to accessible > pdf > > > My guess is you will need to run the pic only pdf through something like omnipage. > -- > James Bailey > Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon > 1501 Kincaid St. > Eugene, OR 97403-1299 > Office: 541-346-1076 > jbailey@uoregon.edu > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:13:00 -0600, Howard Kramer wrote: >> Hello All: >> >> When I save a flyer created in photoshop to pdf, it seems to produce >> an image only pdf. I've tried to save under a number of settings but >> without luck. The accessibility site at Adobe only mentions color >> blindness issues under Photoshop accessibility. Any help would be >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> Howard >> >> -- >> Howard Kramer >> AHG Conference Coordinator >> Access Specialist >> 303-492-8672 >> fax: 492-5601 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Tue Mar 31 05:51:16 2009 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] tips for converting a photoshop doc to accessible pdf In-Reply-To: References: <1238456424.668404.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Howard Kramer > So you mean if you create a file in photoshop - I created this file - > there's no way to save it or export it from photoshop to an accessible > pdf format (without doing ocr on the export)? That's it exactly. Photoshop is strictly image-based, it doesn't really know that what you put in is text. Just running it through OCR would get you the result you needed. Note that there is no tagging function in Photoshop, like there is in text-based programs like Acrobat, Word, etc. Hope that helps. -Susan Kelmer From tschwanke at wisc.edu Tue Mar 31 06:51:50 2009 From: tschwanke at wisc.edu (Todd Schwanke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] tips for converting a photoshop doc to accessible pdf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090331085150735.00000003028@AT_Specialist> Howard I'd suggest looking at modifying the initial approach rather than the final product. Photoshop is focused on bitmaps/images, though at least form an editing side that finally seems to be changing significantly so that changes you make are much easier to undo or adjust. However, if you are making a flyer, 'InDesign' from the Adobe suite of products would probably be a better choice as it is much more geared towards working with text and this type of project. If you have images in Photoshop documents you can insert those into the InDesign document. Transferring your work from Photoshop to InDesign shouldn't be hard. I think Illustrator would also be a better option than Photoshop, but not as good as InDesign. The following document is a good reference for this type of project. As most things in technology, it needs to be updated, as the current suite is CS4. But, I think you will find much of it still relevant and useful, including adding ALT text, doing styles, the export process, and an interesting trick to get the correct reading order if also preparing a tri-fold to be viewed flat on-screen. http://access-ed.r2d2.uwm.edu/Tools_Resources/Strategies_Protocols/ (Then search/look for "Creating an Accessible Tri-fold Brochure" or "InDesign" We came up with this process because we were trying to move as easily as possible between the original file, print document, and PDF for the web. If we edited the original (even just a little) we didn't want to have to go through a whole long process or remaking an accessible PDF, AND we didn't want to have to maintain two separate originals. The end result should be a document that you shouldn't have to post-process with OCR (so you shouldn't have to edit out errors) as this method allows you to transfer the original text and the structure. I'd still run a PDF accessibility check at the end though. -Todd -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:13 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Alternate Media Subject: [Athen] tips for converting a photoshop doc to accessible pdf Hello All: When I save a flyer created in photoshop to pdf, it seems to produce an image only pdf. I've tried to save under a number of settings but without luck. The accessibility site at Adobe only mentions color blindness issues under Photoshop accessibility. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Howard -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From skeegan at stanford.edu Tue Mar 31 17:54:25 2009 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] Braille on the touchscreen - "sorta, kinda" Message-ID: <49D2BB41.1050902@stanford.edu> Saw this posting on Engadget this morning: Researchers develop braille for vibrating touchscreen devices URL - http://tinyurl.com/dk5pfg Interesting technology but really not that practical as of this design stage (can take 1.25 seconds to read a character). Take care, Sean From norm.coombs at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 18:24:43 2009 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] audio file type question Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20090331182307.022fc100@pop.gmail.com> I have some audio tracks with an extension of ".cda". I'd like to compress them to an MP3. None of my audio software will convert a cda file. Does anyone know of software to do this? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From ndogbo at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 19:01:20 2009 From: ndogbo at gmail.com (Nicaise D) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] audio file type question In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20090331182307.022fc100@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090331182307.022fc100@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: Try Smart CD Ripper. You can try the free version of either the standard or professional edition at http://www.smartcdripper.com/?gclid=CJSzhLDJzpkCFQ6jagodyV_Stg -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:25 PM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] audio file type question I have some audio tracks with an extension of ".cda". I'd like to compress them to an MP3. None of my audio software will convert a cda file. Does anyone know of software to do this? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at ahead.org Tue Mar 31 19:02:22 2009 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] audio file type question In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20090331182307.022fc100@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20090331182307.022fc100@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004b01c9b26d$e77e4000$b67ac000$@org> Norm that is CD Audio format, you can rip an audio CD to MP3 using a tool like Sound Forge, and I am sure there are some free tools as well. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:25 PM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] audio file type question I have some audio tracks with an extension of ".cda". I'd like to compress them to an MP3. None of my audio software will convert a cda file. Does anyone know of software to do this? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org