From jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu Thu Apr 1 13:56:59 2010 From: jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu (Pielaet, Jon) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question about Save As DAISY In-Reply-To: <4BB3C2F9.3080607@stanford.edu> References: <4BB3C2F9.3080607@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002B65098@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Sean, I haven't used the TTS Narrator functionality in the Save As DAISY plug-in extensively, but I can tell you that the plug-in suffers from some memory leaks. Generating a 175 page DTBook XML file should only take a minute or two. In one of my latest exports the plug-in was still stuck at 100% complete after more than 24 hours. After rebooting and clearing my RAM, the export took only a few minutes. If you find that your CPU usage isn't changing for a few minutes, I would suggest trying your export after a reboot. Creating TTS speech for your DAISY book will take a long time. 2.5 hours seems about right for a 400 page book considering that the playback time can be much longer than that. How are the DAISY books being read? Do you really need the PC to generate the speech in advance? Could you use the DAISY pipeline to create text-only filesets from your DTBook XML instead of embedding the speech? Good Luck, Jon Jon P. Pielaet Program Assistant for Instructional Materials Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406-243-2243 Voice/Text 406-243-4461 Direct Line 406-243-5330 Fax -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:48 PM To: Alternate Media; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Question about Save As DAISY Hi all, I have been playing with the Save As DAISY in MS Word and have a question about how long it can take to create a 450 page book. I choose to create a DAISY book (as opposed to just the XML version) and the DAISY Pipeline TTS Narrator began running. So far, the system has been running for about 2.5 hours. Is this a bit excessive or is this expected? Most of my samples have been done on short 10-20 page documents, so I don't have a great reference for a much longer book. I am working on a virtualized Windows 7 system with 2GB RAM dedicated to the Windows 7 instance (CPU is 2.8 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo). The JAVAW.exe process has maxed out the CPU usage at 98%. Thanks, Sean From ron at altformatsolutions.com Fri Apr 2 04:45:55 2010 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] ATIA Call for Papers Message-ID: <034701cad25a$0e1b4c00$2a51e400$@com> Good morning Athenian's For several years ATHEN has been a partner in the ATIA conferences, with members serving as Strand Managers and also participating in the event. As part of our commitment to the ATIA conference we have agreed to try and solicit 20 proposals from our membership for each conference. I am hoping you will help us reach this goal! The announcement follows: COMBINED ATIA 2010 Chicago & ATIA 2011 Orlando Call for Presentations Submissions Guideline Call for Presentations Closes on May 19, 2010 Please visit www.atia.org for the online submission link This is a combined Call for Presentation for the ATIA 2010 Chicago and ATIA 2011 Orlando Conferences. ATIA 2010 Chicago October 27-30, 2010 Renaissance Schaumburg Hotel and Convention Center Schaumburg (Chicago), Illinois ATIA 2011 Orlando January 26 - 29, 2011 Caribe Royale All-Suites Resort & Convention Center Orlando, Florida ATIA is holding a combined Call for Presentations for two conferences for an extended period of three months to enable speakers to submit abstracts for one OR both conferences. How will it work? Speakers should submit abstracts and select if they are submitting for one of three choices: . ATIA 2010 Chicago . ATIA 2011 Orlando . BOTH ATIA 2010 Chicago and ATIA 2011 Orlando Please only submit two (2) abstracts per speaker per event. **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Fri Apr 2 13:44:59 2010 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Election Results Message-ID: <9AB18D77713346EDA1B22CC3E6BA83E8@htctu.fhda.edu> As of midnight on April 1, 2010, the ATHEN elections officially closed. We are pleased to inform you that the slate of officers was approved as presented, and the amendment was approved as written. (See below.) Congratulations to the officers, and thank you to both the By-laws Committee and the Election Committee for all their hard work! ATHEN Officers President: Ron Stewart Vice President: Terry Thompson Treasurer: Heidi Scher Secretary: Susan Kelmer Proposed Amendment 4.5. Officers shall be elected annually by the membership. Elections will be held within the month prior to the annual meeting. Election results will be announced at the annual meeting, with terms to commence at the end of the meeting. Terms are for two years, with elections for President and Secretary occurring in even-numbered years. Elections for Vice President and Treasurer will be held in odd-numbered years. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The HTCTU provides leadership, training, and support to the California Community Colleges in using technology to promote the success of students with disabilities. There is no success without access... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Sun Apr 4 12:37:39 2010 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Random iPad observations Message-ID: <5D0E257F-201D-41B9-A9EC-82582B860C52@techpotential.net> Hi, all! Here are some random observations about the iPad which might be of interest to the group (and please forgive any crossposting): - You can use the iPad-to-VGA adapter to project the contents of its entire screen (unlike the iPhone/iPod Touch where you can only projects photos, etc.). However, if you have to type in a password for something, the onscreen keyboard will show your entire audience what you're typing. (Eek!) - Since it's big and flat, the natural tendency when you're done working with it is simply lay it down on a table. And because it's big and flat, it makes a great target if you accidentally drop something. (I came oh-so-close to dropping my phone on the screen last evening!) This thing begs a case, folio, or a way to stand it vertically when not in use. - I don't see an iPad-specific version of ShapeWriter available yet, but the iPhone version works just fine (both in normal size and expanded to 2x). - I've used WritePad (for handwriting recognition) on my iPhone and see that there's now an iPad version. With practice, I was able to get pretty good accuracy just "writing" with my index finger. I also tried a Pogo Stylus (which duplicates the capacitance of a finger) for writing, but the recognition accuracy was about the same (http://tenonedesign.com/stylus.php). Actually, running the iPhone version on the iPad has one advantage: because it doesn't fill up the entire screen, there is space to rest your hand as you write. - VoiceOver for iPad is the same as for the iPhone 3GS, so it pretty much reads text but does not have any of the configuration settings found in the desktop version by which one can tweak how it performs. For example, it will read aloud books from the iBookstore, but words are not highlighted with the VoiceOver cursor as they're read. - The speakers are surprisingly good. - Kindle for the iPad is nice, too, but no text-to-speech like the physical Kindle device. - I found that reading books (iBooks or Kindle) was less visually fatiguing if I turned on the White on Black function under Accessibility settings. Of course, then all the pictures look weird (unless you enjoy x-ray versions of Winnie the Pooh and Piglet). - iBooks come with an easy-to-use slider across the bottom of the pages by which to easily select a specific page. - Obviously, an iPad is not a laptop or desktop computer, but several apps will provide remote access to your main computer from your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad. This offers the possibility of running a desktop application from the iPad, as if it were a remote terminal. In particular, I'm waiting for Wormhole Remote for iPad, one such program which has received good reviews: http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/02/wormhole-remote-to-offer-seamless-desktop-access-from-iphone-ipad/ http://appstore.gearlive.com/apptapper/article/q110-wormhole-remote-ipad-review/ - I'm also playing around with some notetaking applications -- MobileNoter (which sync Microsoft OneNote notebooks to an iPad or iPhone/iPod Touch), AllNotes (which includes audio recording), and Evernote's new iPad version (already available on iPhone/iPod Touch, Macs, PCs, the web, you-name-it). - I'm awaiting iPad versions of various mind mapping applications (MindNode is currently the only iPad-specific mind map app listed -- others already available on the iPhone/iPod Touch). - Some games on the iPad are a real kick! I downloaded Labyrinth, where you maneuver a ball through a "physical" maze by tilting the iPad -- lots of fun! (I suppose one could justify this as a test for motor control and visual-motor integration. ;-) Lastly, I don't know if the iPad is "revolutionary" or "magical" (as Apple says), but I will say that there is definitely something "satisfying" about interacting with information with your fingers vs. remotely with a mouse or by issuing keyboard commands. Happy touchscreening, Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net From ron at ahead.org Mon Apr 5 07:18:28 2010 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: HR 3101 and COAT Affiliation Message-ID: <001801cad4ca$dcd96f00$968c4d00$@org> Good morning, We have been asked to join in supporting this legislation by Melanie Thornton. Is anyone willing to draft a letter of support, also you can personally support this activity at the following website: http://coataccess.org/node/add/petition. I have already contacted COAT about how to become an affiliate of the organization. Ron Stewart HR 3101 seems like a piece of legislation that we, as an organization would want to get behind. ?The purpose of the Bill is "to ensure that individuals with disabilities have access to emerging Internet Protocol-based communication and video programming technologies in the 21st Century." (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-3101#at) NAD will is sponsoring a call for contacting legislators on April 15th and so it would be great if the AHEAD membership might be apprised of this in time to take action individually. (http://www.nad.org/blogs/lkatz-hernandez/support-hr-3101-april-15) I also wonder what you think about our becoming an affiliate of COAT (Coalition of Organizations for Assistive Technology), a coalition of over 280 national, regional, state, and community-based disability organizations that advocates for legislative and regulatory safeguards that will ensure full access by people with disabilities to evolving high speed broadband, wireless and other Internet Protocol (IP) technologies. ?(http://www.coataccess.org/node/2) I appreciate your consideration of this suggestion. ?I think that the legislation and the work of COAT are both aligned with the mission of AHEAD. Many thanks! Melanie Melanie Thornton Director, Project PACE Associate Director, Disability Resource Center 2801 S. University Ave., DSC #103 Little Rock, Arkansas 72204 501.650.2239 (cell) 501.569.8240 (fax) Websites: http://ualr.edu/pace http://ualr.edu/disability From saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu Mon Apr 5 12:34:08 2010 From: saroj_primlani at ncsu.edu (Saroj Primlani) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE - PeopleSoft In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001901cad4f6$f5ca2730$e15e7590$@edu> Anyone out there using PeopleSoft 8.5 toolset to develop Student applications (records, financials, registration etc). According to Oracle, this version helps the developers create accessible user interfaces. I really would like a contact, or input from your developers to help us understand if updating to this toolset will really solve our mega-problems solving accessibility/usability of the user interface. Apparently this tool set involves hardware upgrades, so there is reluctance to make a commitment without realistic input that it will solve the problem. Feel free to respond off list. Thanks Saroj Accessibility Consultant North Carolina State University saroj_primlani@ncsu.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 3:00 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 51, Issue 2 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Question about Save As DAISY (Pielaet, Jon) 2. ATIA Call for Papers (Ron Stewart) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 14:56:59 -0600 From: "Pielaet, Jon" To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" Subject: Re: [Athen] Question about Save As DAISY Message-ID: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002B65098@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sean, I haven't used the TTS Narrator functionality in the Save As DAISY plug-in extensively, but I can tell you that the plug-in suffers from some memory leaks. Generating a 175 page DTBook XML file should only take a minute or two. In one of my latest exports the plug-in was still stuck at 100% complete after more than 24 hours. After rebooting and clearing my RAM, the export took only a few minutes. If you find that your CPU usage isn't changing for a few minutes, I would suggest trying your export after a reboot. Creating TTS speech for your DAISY book will take a long time. 2.5 hours seems about right for a 400 page book considering that the playback time can be much longer than that. How are the DAISY books being read? Do you really need the PC to generate the speech in advance? Could you use the DAISY pipeline to create text-only filesets from your DTBook XML instead of embedding the speech? Good Luck, Jon Jon P. Pielaet Program Assistant for Instructional Materials Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406-243-2243 Voice/Text 406-243-4461 Direct Line 406-243-5330 Fax -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:48 PM To: Alternate Media; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Question about Save As DAISY Hi all, I have been playing with the Save As DAISY in MS Word and have a question about how long it can take to create a 450 page book. I choose to create a DAISY book (as opposed to just the XML version) and the DAISY Pipeline TTS Narrator began running. So far, the system has been running for about 2.5 hours. Is this a bit excessive or is this expected? Most of my samples have been done on short 10-20 page documents, so I don't have a great reference for a much longer book. I am working on a virtualized Windows 7 system with 2GB RAM dedicated to the Windows 7 instance (CPU is 2.8 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo). The JAVAW.exe process has maxed out the CPU usage at 98%. Thanks, Sean ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 07:45:55 -0400 From: "Ron Stewart" To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Cc: 'Ron Stewart' , 'Howard Kramer' Subject: [Athen] ATIA Call for Papers Message-ID: <034701cad25a$0e1b4c00$2a51e400$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Good morning Athenian's For several years ATHEN has been a partner in the ATIA conferences, with members serving as Strand Managers and also participating in the event. As part of our commitment to the ATIA conference we have agreed to try and solicit 20 proposals from our membership for each conference. I am hoping you will help us reach this goal! The announcement follows: COMBINED ATIA 2010 Chicago & ATIA 2011 Orlando Call for Presentations Submissions Guideline Call for Presentations Closes on May 19, 2010 Please visit www.atia.org for the online submission link This is a combined Call for Presentation for the ATIA 2010 Chicago and ATIA 2011 Orlando Conferences. ATIA 2010 Chicago October 27-30, 2010 Renaissance Schaumburg Hotel and Convention Center Schaumburg (Chicago), Illinois ATIA 2011 Orlando January 26 - 29, 2011 Caribe Royale All-Suites Resort & Convention Center Orlando, Florida ATIA is holding a combined Call for Presentations for two conferences for an extended period of three months to enable speakers to submit abstracts for one OR both conferences. How will it work? Speakers should submit abstracts and select if they are submitting for one of three choices: . ATIA 2010 Chicago . ATIA 2011 Orlando . BOTH ATIA 2010 Chicago and ATIA 2011 Orlando Please only submit two (2) abstracts per speaker per event. **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To register send email to stemdescription@wgbh.org . -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1501 Kincaid St. Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu From B.G.Whitehouse at lboro.ac.uk Wed Apr 7 05:59:03 2010 From: B.G.Whitehouse at lboro.ac.uk (Bradley Whitehouse) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Braille connectivity Message-ID: Does anyone know if Amazon and Apple are going to build in braille connectivity to the Kindle and the iPad, or is it just audio output? What about Blio? Has anyone on this group had a chance to trial Blio or the k-nfb ereader? Guy From ron at ahead.org Wed Apr 7 06:11:21 2010 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Braille connectivity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02d001cad653$d1951b00$74bf5100$@org> At this point there is no technology support for braille output in any of the commercial eReaders that I am aware of. The approach that seems to be currently explored is self voicing user interfaces which as far as I am aware do not support any binary outputs. Since these devices do have USB ports it probably could be done but only with the newest technology. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Bradley Whitehouse Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:59 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Braille connectivity Does anyone know if Amazon and Apple are going to build in braille connectivity to the Kindle and the iPad, or is it just audio output? What about Blio? Has anyone on this group had a chance to trial Blio or the k-nfb ereader? Guy _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 06:41:56 2010 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Braille connectivity In-Reply-To: <02d001cad653$d1951b00$74bf5100$@org> References: <02d001cad653$d1951b00$74bf5100$@org> Message-ID: I listened to a podcast demo from the AT Guys at http://blindbargains.com/audio/ of the BLIO software. You can use the build in speech or a screen reader like JAWS to read the PC edition. If JAWS will read the text it should display the text on a refreshable braille display as well. This is not braille support in a handheld device but if someone wants braille it is probably the only solution for the near term. Of course this would work if BLIO from KNFB ever actually hits the market. Jeff On 4/7/10, Ron Stewart wrote: > At this point there is no technology support for braille output in any of > the commercial eReaders that I am aware of. The approach that seems to be > currently explored is self voicing user interfaces which as far as I am > aware do not support any binary outputs. Since these devices do have USB > ports it probably could be done but only with the newest technology. > > Ron Stewart > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Bradley Whitehouse > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:59 AM > To: athen@athenpro.org > Subject: [Athen] Braille connectivity > > Does anyone know if Amazon and Apple are going to build in braille > connectivity to the Kindle and the iPad, or is it just audio output? What > about Blio? Has anyone on this group had a chance to trial Blio or the k-nfb > ereader? Guy > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Wed Apr 7 16:44:21 2010 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessible chat utilities Message-ID: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C041E0A72@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Greetings, all. I'm seeking input on the accessibility of various chat utilities -- Yahoo! Messenger, AIM, MSN Messenger, etc. I'm specifically examining the installable clients on Windows machines (XP and Win7 primarily), not the web versions of these programs, and would welcome input on their use with screen readers, screen magnifiers, and speech recognition, as well as any other AT you'd care to include. If anyone who uses AT has a "favorite" chat program, I'd appreciate hearing that. Thanks in advance, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternate Format Program Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 17:13:24 2010 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessible chat utilities In-Reply-To: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C041E0A72@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C041E0A72@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <02ef01cad6b0$4e668450$eb338cf0$@com> The major screen readers have scripts or built-in accessibility for these IM clients. AIM, MSN, and Yahoo messinger work with JAWS and Window-eyes. I must say they work better with Window-Eyes. The JAWS implementation is buggy at best. the IM clients are usable though. Support w/ other screen readers is unpredictable. System access doesn't provide as much convenience when using IM clients. I've not tested NVDA. Regards, Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 7:44 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] accessible chat utilities Greetings, all. I'm seeking input on the accessibility of various chat utilities -- Yahoo! Messenger, AIM, MSN Messenger, etc. I'm specifically examining the installable clients on Windows machines (XP and Win7 primarily), not the web versions of these programs, and would welcome input on their use with screen readers, screen magnifiers, and speech recognition, as well as any other AT you'd care to include. If anyone who uses AT has a "favorite" chat program, I'd appreciate hearing that. Thanks in advance, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternate Format Program Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Wed Apr 7 19:25:04 2010 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Running Mac and Windows apps on the iPad...sort of Message-ID: <02B7EC38-7710-4022-893A-7A43A485F8B0@techpotential.net> Hi, ATHENites! I thought some of you might be interested in how to remotely access your Windows or Mac computers from the iPad. The following YouTube videos demonstrate Remote Desktop/VNC apps which do just that. These are just a few examples to show what's possible -- there are other such apps out there, and more will undoubtedly be added to the App Store. (iPhone & iPod Touch versions available, too.) Using a remote desktop/VNC client is not perfect -- how you move the cursor without a mouse is not always intuitive (you don't simply touch the screen where you want to click) -- but I'm sure this will create some possibilities as well as generate a few "Aha!" ideas. Connecting remotely to a Windows PC on the iPad with Desktop Connect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x58K4fA9wXI Connecting remotely to a Mac on the iPad with iTeleport: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euq4V_-FHbY Wormhole Remote -- a slightly different approach to remote access (not released yet in App Store): http://appstore.gearlive.com/apptapper/article/q110-wormhole-remote-ipad-review/ Have fun! - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Thu Apr 8 02:02:29 2010 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Annotating & highlighting PDFs on an iPad Message-ID: <3010412C-84A4-4537-A8AA-AF1E60B76EDC@techpotential.net> I apologize for all the iPad-centric posts lately, but the more I explore this thing, the more possibilities I see for the LD students with whom I work. I came across an amazing app this evening called iAnnotate PDF; think of it as Kurzweil's study tools on an iPad. You download text PDF files to the iPad through a simple desktop interface (Mac or Windows). Open the file, zoom in or out to the desired magnification, then highlight text in different colors by simply dragging your finger across the text. You can also underline text, strike-through, make freehand (free-finger?) annotations with a pencil tool, bookmark, and add different color text notes which can be pinned anywhere on the page. If the PDF is tagged properly, the app will also generate an outline for easier navigation. Marked-up files can then be uploaded back to the computer. In the next version (due shortly), text-only summaries of just the annotations can be extracted and sent to the user via e-mail. Here's a description of iAnnotate PDF, plus a video demo of it in action: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/iannotate-pdf/id363998953?mt=8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NJTwPPH8Fk I had great fun leisurely highlighting and annotating text with the Pogo Stylus (http://tenonedesign.com/stylus.php) which duplicates the capacitance of human skin -- much more natural than trying to highlight with my fingertip. The developer has a forum where people can post feature requests. Several wanted a dictionary function; I "fourthed" that motion for that, and also requested VoiceOver access of the text since Apple now allows developers to use VO in their apps. Judging from the forum posts and reviews, many of the users (on both iPad and iPhone) are grad students in medical or law school who need to read and study a ton of text. Obviously, this has application in the K-12 arena as well, perhaps for teachers to mark-up PDFs for students to provide a guided reading experience. Anyway, just thought some of you might see value in this. - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net From pratikp1 at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 02:14:29 2010 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Annotating & highlighting PDFs on an iPad In-Reply-To: <3010412C-84A4-4537-A8AA-AF1E60B76EDC@techpotential.net> References: <3010412C-84A4-4537-A8AA-AF1E60B76EDC@techpotential.net> Message-ID: <030201cad6fb$e543ed90$afcbc8b0$@com> Hello Shelley, One of the most popular PDF reading apps on the iPad appears to be Goodreads. I jsut downloaded it last night and just started to play with it. You may want to explore it as well. From the description, it appears that Goodreads probably doesn't do the highlights. Pratik -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Shelley Haven Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:02 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Annotating & highlighting PDFs on an iPad I apologize for all the iPad-centric posts lately, but the more I explore this thing, the more possibilities I see for the LD students with whom I work. I came across an amazing app this evening called iAnnotate PDF; think of it as Kurzweil's study tools on an iPad. You download text PDF files to the iPad through a simple desktop interface (Mac or Windows). Open the file, zoom in or out to the desired magnification, then highlight text in different colors by simply dragging your finger across the text. You can also underline text, strike-through, make freehand (free-finger?) annotations with a pencil tool, bookmark, and add different color text notes which can be pinned anywhere on the page. If the PDF is tagged properly, the app will also generate an outline for easier navigation. Marked-up files can then be uploaded back to the computer. In the next version (due shortly), text-only summaries of just the annotations can be extracted and sent to the user via e-mail. Here's a description of iAnnotate PDF, plus a video demo of it in action: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/iannotate-pdf/id363998953?mt=8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NJTwPPH8Fk I had great fun leisurely highlighting and annotating text with the Pogo Stylus (http://tenonedesign.com/stylus.php) which duplicates the capacitance of human skin -- much more natural than trying to highlight with my fingertip. The developer has a forum where people can post feature requests. Several wanted a dictionary function; I "fourthed" that motion for that, and also requested VoiceOver access of the text since Apple now allows developers to use VO in their apps. Judging from the forum posts and reviews, many of the users (on both iPad and iPhone) are grad students in medical or law school who need to read and study a ton of text. Obviously, this has application in the K-12 arena as well, perhaps for teachers to mark-up PDFs for students to provide a guided reading experience. Anyway, just thought some of you might see value in this. - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Thu Apr 8 02:49:47 2010 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Annotating & highlighting PDFs on an iPad In-Reply-To: <030201cad6fb$e543ed90$afcbc8b0$@com> References: <3010412C-84A4-4537-A8AA-AF1E60B76EDC@techpotential.net> <030201cad6fb$e543ed90$afcbc8b0$@com> Message-ID: <2BD3A051-E804-451B-9C9A-57C8B7F1EA47@techpotential.net> I also got GoodReader and have been exploring just how many different types of files it can read (with or without VoiceOver). You're right -- it doesn't do highlighting. Given that it's currently marked down to 99 cents, though, it's a steal! - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Apr 8, 2010, at 2:14 AM, Pratik Patel wrote: > Hello Shelley, > > One of the most popular PDF reading apps on the iPad appears to be > Goodreads. I jsut downloaded it last night and just started to play with > it. You may want to explore it as well. From the description, it appears > that Goodreads probably doesn't do the highlights. > > Pratik > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Shelley Haven > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:02 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Annotating & highlighting PDFs on an iPad > > I apologize for all the iPad-centric posts lately, but the more I explore > this thing, the more possibilities I see for the LD students with whom I > work. > > I came across an amazing app this evening called iAnnotate PDF; think of it > as Kurzweil's study tools on an iPad. You download text PDF files to the > iPad through a simple desktop interface (Mac or Windows). Open the file, > zoom in or out to the desired magnification, then highlight text in > different colors by simply dragging your finger across the text. You can > also underline text, strike-through, make freehand (free-finger?) > annotations with a pencil tool, bookmark, and add different color text notes > which can be pinned anywhere on the page. If the PDF is tagged properly, > the app will also generate an outline for easier navigation. Marked-up > files can then be uploaded back to the computer. In the next version (due > shortly), text-only summaries of just the annotations can be extracted and > sent to the user via e-mail. > > Here's a description of iAnnotate PDF, plus a video demo of it in action: > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/iannotate-pdf/id363998953?mt=8 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NJTwPPH8Fk > > I had great fun leisurely highlighting and annotating text with the Pogo > Stylus (http://tenonedesign.com/stylus.php) which duplicates the capacitance > of human skin -- much more natural than trying to highlight with my > fingertip. The developer has a forum where people can post feature > requests. Several wanted a dictionary function; I "fourthed" that motion > for that, and also requested VoiceOver access of the text since Apple now > allows developers to use VO in their apps. > > Judging from the forum posts and reviews, many of the users (on both iPad > and iPhone) are grad students in medical or law school who need to read and > study a ton of text. Obviously, this has application in the K-12 arena as > well, perhaps for teachers to mark-up PDFs for students to provide a guided > reading experience. > > Anyway, just thought some of you might see value in this. > > - Shelley > > _____________________________ > Shelley Haven ATP, RET > Assistive Technology Consultant > www.TechPotential.net > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From ron at ahead.org Thu Apr 8 05:21:01 2010 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Annotating & highlighting PDFs on an iPad In-Reply-To: <3010412C-84A4-4537-A8AA-AF1E60B76EDC@techpotential.net> References: <3010412C-84A4-4537-A8AA-AF1E60B76EDC@techpotential.net> Message-ID: <04b201cad715$f3bfaa70$db3eff50$@org> Keep them coming Shelley and others, I agree with you the iPad and similar devices that will hit the market in the next year have the potential to replace a lot of assistive technology. It is nice to see technology that has native functionality that used to only be available in expensive AT. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Shelley Haven Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:02 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Annotating & highlighting PDFs on an iPad I apologize for all the iPad-centric posts lately, but the more I explore this thing, the more possibilities I see for the LD students with whom I work. I came across an amazing app this evening called iAnnotate PDF; think of it as Kurzweil's study tools on an iPad. You download text PDF files to the iPad through a simple desktop interface (Mac or Windows). Open the file, zoom in or out to the desired magnification, then highlight text in different colors by simply dragging your finger across the text. You can also underline text, strike-through, make freehand (free-finger?) annotations with a pencil tool, bookmark, and add different color text notes which can be pinned anywhere on the page. If the PDF is tagged properly, the app will also generate an outline for easier navigation. Marked-up files can then be uploaded back to the computer. In the next version (due shortly), text-only summaries of just the annotations can be extracted and sent to the user via e-mail. Here's a description of iAnnotate PDF, plus a video demo of it in action: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/iannotate-pdf/id363998953?mt=8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NJTwPPH8Fk I had great fun leisurely highlighting and annotating text with the Pogo Stylus (http://tenonedesign.com/stylus.php) which duplicates the capacitance of human skin -- much more natural than trying to highlight with my fingertip. The developer has a forum where people can post feature requests. Several wanted a dictionary function; I "fourthed" that motion for that, and also requested VoiceOver access of the text since Apple now allows developers to use VO in their apps. Judging from the forum posts and reviews, many of the users (on both iPad and iPhone) are grad students in medical or law school who need to read and study a ton of text. Obviously, this has application in the K-12 arena as well, perhaps for teachers to mark-up PDFs for students to provide a guided reading experience. Anyway, just thought some of you might see value in this. - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at altformatsolutions.com Thu Apr 8 06:23:15 2010 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] New DAISY Pipeline Release Message-ID: <04c901cad71e$a5a316c0$f0e94440$@com> The DAISY Consortium has released an update to the DAISY Pipeline software: http://www.daisy.org/project/pipeline Ron Stewart **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 4/8/10, Jeffrey Dell wrote: > Does anyone have any experience with grammar checking software? I've > had students ask me about software for checking grammar in the past > and All I know about was White Smoke but had very little info about > it. I just was looking again today and found a review of 4 software > packages. Is anyone currently supporting the use of software like > this and how effective do your students find it? > Thanks > Jeff > From nettiet at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 08:49:56 2010 From: nettiet at gmail.com (Nettie Fischer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Grammar Checking Software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Have you downladed a trail version of Ginger - this is software options addressess grammar and spelling. It has a fairly colorful and the creen may be considered busy depending on the disabilites of the student. nettie On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Jeffrey Dell wrote: > Does anyone have any experience with grammar checking software? I've > had students ask me about software for checking grammar in the past > and All I know about was White Smoke but had very little info about > it. I just was looking again today and found a review of 4 software > packages. Is anyone currently supporting the use of software like > this and how effective do your students find it? > Thanks > Jeff > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -- Nettie T. Fischer, ATP Assistive Technology Professional Nettiet, ATP Consultants www.nettietatpconsultants.com [916] 222-3492 Office (916) 704-1456 Cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Thu Apr 8 09:15:07 2010 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Smart Pen Message-ID: I have our faculty development people asking me about smart pens. I know of the LiveScribe. 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I just was looking again today and found a review of 4 software > > packages. Is anyone currently supporting the use of software like > > this and how effective do your students find it? > > Thanks > > Jeff > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Thu Apr 8 11:08:00 2010 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Smart Pen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E0D2E26-EB74-4D62-8A0B-0BF25DD2E1BF@techpotential.net> I suppose that depends on your definition of "smart pen" and what they want it to do. As for note taking support, the Fly Fusion (by Leapfrog) was taken off the market last year. A slightly different "smartness" is available with Papershow, a smartpen that takes what it writes and sends it wirelessly to a computer in real time (think "paper version of a mimio or eBeam"). It uses the same microdot paper technology as the Livescribe Pulse. Thus a faculty member could simply write on a piece of paper and project his live scribblings to the class. It works with both Macs and PCs; here's the website: http://www.papershow.com/us/index.asp - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Apr 8, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: > I have our faculty development people asking me about smart pens. I know of the LiveScribe. What other ones are there that I should look at? > > Thanks in advance? > > Susan Kelmer > Adaptive Technology Specialist/ > Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms > St. Louis Community College - Meramec > 314-984-7951 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wink.harner at smcmail.maricopa.edu Thu Apr 8 11:21:10 2010 From: wink.harner at smcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Smart Pen In-Reply-To: <0E0D2E26-EB74-4D62-8A0B-0BF25DD2E1BF@techpotential.net> References: <0E0D2E26-EB74-4D62-8A0B-0BF25DD2E1BF@techpotential.net> Message-ID: <008d01cad748$43f35c80$cbda1580$@harner@smcmail.maricopa.edu> Hi all, I went to the site Shelley just recommended and looked up "where to buy" -I clicked on Amazon.com and the site came up in French. Not Amazon. Another site. While I'm ok with doing business in French, not EVERYONE is! I wonder if the Papershow folks know there's a glitch? There doesn't seem to be a 'contact us' link there that I can find. Any ideas on how to pass that along to them? Wink From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Shelley Haven Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:08 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Smart Pen I suppose that depends on your definition of "smart pen" and what they want it to do. As for note taking support, the Fly Fusion (by Leapfrog) was taken off the market last year. A slightly different "smartness" is available with Papershow, a smartpen that takes what it writes and sends it wirelessly to a computer in real time (think "paper version of a mimio or eBeam"). It uses the same microdot paper technology as the Livescribe Pulse. Thus a faculty member could simply write on a piece of paper and project his live scribblings to the class. It works with both Macs and PCs; here's the website: http://www.papershow.com/us/index.asp - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Apr 8, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: I have our faculty development people asking me about smart pens. I know of the LiveScribe. What other ones are there that I should look at? Thanks in advance. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Thu Apr 8 11:30:31 2010 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Grammar Checking Software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've used Ginger Software, and it's best for spelling but will also pick up some grammar issues (such as noun-verb disagreement). Like Ginger Software, Ghotit is also a contextual spellchecker that will pick up certain grammar issues. Microsoft Word's built-in Grammar Checker is an underused tool that checks for over 30 different kinds of grammar errors and suggests alternatives, all settable in the preferences panel (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/821416/). It also provides readability scores. Like spellchecking, though, it just alerts you to possible mistakes. It works best with those who write average to reasonably well but not those whose grammar is extremely poor. I also know of Grammarian Pro X for Macs (http://linguisoft.com/) but have never used it. - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Apr 8, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Heidi Scher wrote: > How about Ginger Software? > > www.gingersoftware.com > > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Jeffrey Dell wrote: > http://www.4boxreviews.com/grammar-review.html > This is the website that I found some reviews on. The website covers > programs called RightWriter, White Smoke, Editor, and Writer's > Workbench. > > On 4/8/10, Jeffrey Dell wrote: > > Does anyone have any experience with grammar checking software? I've > > had students ask me about software for checking grammar in the past > > and All I know about was White Smoke but had very little info about > > it. I just was looking again today and found a review of 4 software > > packages. Is anyone currently supporting the use of software like > > this and how effective do your students find it? > > Thanks > > Jeff > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From KCarini at matcmadison.edu Thu Apr 8 11:37:36 2010 From: KCarini at matcmadison.edu (Kevin M Carini) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] ImageNow In-Reply-To: <4BB34A93020000E00001F0F6@PLUTO.UND.NODAK.EDU> References: <1270056452.209286.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> <4BB34A93020000E00001F0F6@PLUTO.UND.NODAK.EDU> Message-ID: Gerry, We use ImageNow 6 at Madison Area Technical College. From what we found it isn't very accessible. If anyone has had a different experience please let me know. Thanks. Kevin M. Carini, M.S., C.R.C. Disability Resource Specialist - Assistive Technology Madison Area Technical College Office: 608-243-4612 Fax: 608-246-6691 kcarini@matcmadison.edu www.matcmadison.edu Work Days: Monday - Thursday Off Days: Friday - Sunday -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Gerry Nies Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:14 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network; James Bailey Subject: [Athen] ImageNow Do any of your offices use ImageNow for managing the paperwork? How accessible is it? Thanks once again Gerry Nies _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Thu Apr 8 11:52:53 2010 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Smart Pen In-Reply-To: <008d01cad748$43f35c80$cbda1580$@harner@smcmail.maricopa.edu> References: <0E0D2E26-EB74-4D62-8A0B-0BF25DD2E1BF@techpotential.net> <008d01cad748$43f35c80$cbda1580$@harner@smcmail.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <89492CCE-238F-4780-BC16-9339CDE831FC@techpotential.net> Interesting... The alt-text for that link indicates it's going to Amazon, but obviously it's redirecting somewhere else. The only e-mail address I found anywhere on their website is: supportus@papershow.com _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Apr 8, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Wink Harner wrote: > Hi all, > > I went to the site Shelley just recommended and looked up ?where to buy? ?I clicked on Amazon.com and the site came up in French. Not Amazon. Another site. While I?m ok with doing business in French, not EVERYONE is! I wonder if the Papershow folks know there?s a glitch? There doesn?t seem to be a ?contact us? link there that I can find. > > Any ideas on how to pass that along to them? > > Wink > > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Shelley Haven > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:08 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Smart Pen > > I suppose that depends on your definition of "smart pen" and what they want it to do. As for note taking support, the Fly Fusion (by Leapfrog) was taken off the market last year. A slightly different "smartness" is available with Papershow, a smartpen that takes what it writes and sends it wirelessly to a computer in real time (think "paper version of a mimio or eBeam"). It uses the same microdot paper technology as the Livescribe Pulse. Thus a faculty member could simply write on a piece of paper and project his live scribblings to the class. It works with both Macs and PCs; here's the website: > > http://www.papershow.com/us/index.asp > > - Shelley > > _____________________________ > Shelley Haven ATP, RET > Assistive Technology Consultant > www.TechPotential.net > > > > On Apr 8, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Kelmer, Susan M. wrote: > > > I have our faculty development people asking me about smart pens. I know of the LiveScribe. What other ones are there that I should look at? > > Thanks in advance? > > Susan Kelmer > Adaptive Technology Specialist/ > Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms > St. Louis Community College - Meramec > 314-984-7951 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Sat Apr 10 22:02:07 2010 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] CourseSmart textbooks on the iPad - but... Message-ID: <30953FA2-2DDE-4A7D-9DC8-F231BA275C5B@techpotential.net> I thought this would be of interest -- at any rate, something to keep an eye on. CourseSmart released an iPad app that allows students to not only read their textbooks on an iPad, but also add and edit notes while they read and hunt for information with keyword searches. Great! http://www.coursesmart.com/go/ipad/index.html Though you need a CourseSmart account and e-textbook subscription to actually use it, the app includes a free demo with samples from five college-level textbooks (you can read text and notes, but can't take new notes). However, I also noticed an important caveat in the "fine print": Accessibility Users with disabilities may experience difficulty with accessing the current version of CourseSmart. We apologize for any inconvenience and request your patience while CourseSmart develops an online application that will provide an accessible eTextbook user experience. Please contact the publisher directly to request accessible versions of the textbooks featured on CourseSmart. So I guess they are getting to where we want them to be, but are not quite there yet. - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Sun Apr 11 06:12:20 2010 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] CourseSmart textbooks on the iPad - but... In-Reply-To: <30953FA2-2DDE-4A7D-9DC8-F231BA275C5B@techpotential.net> References: <30953FA2-2DDE-4A7D-9DC8-F231BA275C5B@techpotential.net> Message-ID: <082201cad978$9e174af0$da45e0d0$@org> Will have to check it out, unfortunately the conversations with CourseSmart started over three years ago and still no progress and last time I checked no real progress either. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Shelley Haven Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 1:02 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] CourseSmart textbooks on the iPad - but... I thought this would be of interest -- at any rate, something to keep an eye on. CourseSmart released an iPad app that allows students to not only read their textbooks on an iPad, but also add and edit notes while they read and hunt for information with keyword searches. Great! http://www.coursesmart.com/go/ipad/index.html Though you need a CourseSmart account and e-textbook subscription to actually use it, the app includes a free demo with samples from five college-level textbooks (you can read text and notes, but can't take new notes). However, I also noticed an important caveat in the "fine print": Accessibility Users with disabilities may experience difficulty with accessing the current version of CourseSmart. We apologize for any inconvenience and request your patience while CourseSmart develops an online application that will provide an accessible eTextbook user experience. Please contact the publisher directly to request accessible versions of the textbooks featured on CourseSmart. So I guess they are getting to where we want them to be, but are not quite there yet. - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 06:44:32 2010 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] CourseSmart textbooks on the iPad - but... In-Reply-To: <082201cad978$9e174af0$da45e0d0$@org> References: <30953FA2-2DDE-4A7D-9DC8-F231BA275C5B@techpotential.net> <082201cad978$9e174af0$da45e0d0$@org> Message-ID: <008801cad97d$1edf4ad0$5c9de070$@com> This statement concerns me: "We apologize for any inconvenience and request your patience while CourseSmart develops an online application that will provide an accessible eTextbook user experience. Please contact the publisher directly to request accessible versions of the textbooks featured on CourseSmart." In my opinion, it is not adequate to have a separate system for students with disabilities. If apple has managed to find a way to make iBooks accessible, then it is possible for the iPad version of this software and the associated content to be accessible. A separate webified version does not serve the same purpose nor would provide the same type of usability features on the iPad as the app. Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:12 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] CourseSmart textbooks on the iPad - but... Will have to check it out, unfortunately the conversations with CourseSmart started over three years ago and still no progress and last time I checked no real progress either. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Shelley Haven Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 1:02 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] CourseSmart textbooks on the iPad - but... I thought this would be of interest -- at any rate, something to keep an eye on. CourseSmart released an iPad app that allows students to not only read their textbooks on an iPad, but also add and edit notes while they read and hunt for information with keyword searches. Great! http://www.coursesmart.com/go/ipad/index.html Though you need a CourseSmart account and e-textbook subscription to actually use it, the app includes a free demo with samples from five college-level textbooks (you can read text and notes, but can't take new notes). However, I also noticed an important caveat in the "fine print": Accessibility Users with disabilities may experience difficulty with accessing the current version of CourseSmart. We apologize for any inconvenience and request your patience while CourseSmart develops an online application that will provide an accessible eTextbook user experience. Please contact the publisher directly to request accessible versions of the textbooks featured on CourseSmart. So I guess they are getting to where we want them to be, but are not quite there yet. - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Sun Apr 11 06:50:03 2010 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] CourseSmart textbooks on the iPad - but... In-Reply-To: <008801cad97d$1edf4ad0$5c9de070$@com> References: <30953FA2-2DDE-4A7D-9DC8-F231BA275C5B@techpotential.net> <082201cad978$9e174af0$da45e0d0$@org> <008801cad97d$1edf4ad0$5c9de070$@com> Message-ID: <083801cad97d$e30b04d0$a9210e70$@org> The vast majority of eBooks are not accessible regardless of what platform they are on. At this point eBook accessibility is not an issue of what platform or device you use but if the producer has produced accessible content or not. In the vast majority of situations it is NOT! Either due to the source book being an image file and/or the DRM that is used to lock the materials up. The only way this is ever going to change is if the customer (school, college or university) demands accessible materials. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:45 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] CourseSmart textbooks on the iPad - but... This statement concerns me: "We apologize for any inconvenience and request your patience while CourseSmart develops an online application that will provide an accessible eTextbook user experience. Please contact the publisher directly to request accessible versions of the textbooks featured on CourseSmart." In my opinion, it is not adequate to have a separate system for students with disabilities. If apple has managed to find a way to make iBooks accessible, then it is possible for the iPad version of this software and the associated content to be accessible. A separate webified version does not serve the same purpose nor would provide the same type of usability features on the iPad as the app. Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:12 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] CourseSmart textbooks on the iPad - but... Will have to check it out, unfortunately the conversations with CourseSmart started over three years ago and still no progress and last time I checked no real progress either. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Shelley Haven Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 1:02 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] CourseSmart textbooks on the iPad - but... I thought this would be of interest -- at any rate, something to keep an eye on. CourseSmart released an iPad app that allows students to not only read their textbooks on an iPad, but also add and edit notes while they read and hunt for information with keyword searches. Great! http://www.coursesmart.com/go/ipad/index.html Though you need a CourseSmart account and e-textbook subscription to actually use it, the app includes a free demo with samples from five college-level textbooks (you can read text and notes, but can't take new notes). However, I also noticed an important caveat in the "fine print": Accessibility Users with disabilities may experience difficulty with accessing the current version of CourseSmart. We apologize for any inconvenience and request your patience while CourseSmart develops an online application that will provide an accessible eTextbook user experience. Please contact the publisher directly to request accessible versions of the textbooks featured on CourseSmart. So I guess they are getting to where we want them to be, but are not quite there yet. - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Sun Apr 11 11:08:19 2010 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] CourseSmart textbooks on the iPad - but... In-Reply-To: <008801cad97d$1edf4ad0$5c9de070$@com> References: <30953FA2-2DDE-4A7D-9DC8-F231BA275C5B@techpotential.net> <082201cad978$9e174af0$da45e0d0$@org> <008801cad97d$1edf4ad0$5c9de070$@com> Message-ID: <82B8B87D-4500-4889-A206-030A7DFB4EA3@techpotential.net> For what it's worth, the iPad version actually is an online version. On the FAQ page (http://www.coursesmart.com/go/ipad/FAQ.html) I read: "Do I need the internet to use the app?" Yes. CourseSmart is authorized to provide access to eTextbooks on a subscription basis. We need the internet to verify your free student or instructor account. ...so I gather that the books may not actually reside on the iPad itself, as with Apple's iBooks, but "in the cloud". Also, the "We Apologize..." statement applies to all their eBooks, not just the iPad version. There's a tiny "Accessibility" link at the bottom of their homepage. - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Apr 11, 2010, at 6:44 AM, Pratik Patel wrote: > This statement concerns me: "We apologize for any inconvenience and request your patience while CourseSmart develops an online application that will provide an accessible eTextbook user experience. Please contact the publisher directly to request accessible versions of the textbooks featured on CourseSmart." > > In my opinion, it is not adequate to have a separate system for students with disabilities. If apple has managed to find a way to make iBooks accessible, then it is possible for the iPad version of this software and the associated content to be accessible. A separate webified version does not serve the same purpose nor would provide the same type of usability features on the iPad as the app. > > Pratik > > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:12 AM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] CourseSmart textbooks on the iPad - but... > > Will have to check it out, unfortunately the conversations with CourseSmart started over three years ago and still no progress and last time I checked no real progress either. > > Ron Stewart > > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Shelley Haven > Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 1:02 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] CourseSmart textbooks on the iPad - but... > > I thought this would be of interest -- at any rate, something to keep an eye on. CourseSmart released an iPad app that allows students to not only read their textbooks on an iPad, but also add and edit notes while they read and hunt for information with keyword searches. Great! > > http://www.coursesmart.com/go/ipad/index.html > > Though you need a CourseSmart account and e-textbook subscription to actually use it, the app includes a free demo with samples from five college-level textbooks (you can read text and notes, but can't take new notes). > > However, I also noticed an important caveat in the "fine print": > > Accessibility > Users with disabilities may experience difficulty with accessing the current version of CourseSmart. We apologize for any inconvenience and request your patience while CourseSmart develops an online application that will provide an accessible eTextbook user experience. > Please contact the publisher directly to request accessible versions of the textbooks featured on CourseSmart. > > So I guess they are getting to where we want them to be, but are not quite there yet. > - Shelley > _____________________________ > Shelley Haven ATP, RET > Assistive Technology Consultant > www.TechPotential.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Have any of you had dealings with this > program? > > > > > > Hi to All, > > > > We likely will have a blind student in our developmental math program this > fall. We have been told that screen readers do not work on math programs > because it does not know what to do with math symbols. Our program is > currently all on computer. The program does include lectures etc. but am > very uncertain about testing and some other issues. > > > > If you have had any experience in this area I could really use some > information and help. Do you have any suggestion as to where I might look > for assistance with this? > > > > Thanks for your time and assistance. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > Robert Lee Beach > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Kansas City Kansas Community College > > 7250 State Avenue > > Kansas City, KS 66112 > > Phone: 913-288-7671 > > Fax: 913-288-7678 > > E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Mon Apr 12 08:57:17 2010 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] ALEKS math program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks. I'm not on that list, but I think my director is. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Melanie Thornton Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] ALEKS math program Yes...we have tested it here and found it to be inaccessible. A discussion about this has been taking place on the DSSHE listserv. If you are a subscriber, check the archives for "a challenging situation". Melanie On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Robert Beach > wrote: Hi all, Here is a question that was forwarded to me. I think I already know the answer to this, but I'm hoping I'm wrong. The program being used is ALEKS. Have any of you had dealings with this program? Hi to All, We likely will have a blind student in our developmental math program this fall. We have been told that screen readers do not work on math programs because it does not know what to do with math symbols. Our program is currently all on computer. The program does include lectures etc. but am very uncertain about testing and some other issues. If you have had any experience in this area I could really use some information and help. Do you have any suggestion as to where I might look for assistance with this? Thanks for your time and assistance. Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This workshop will be offered by Hadi Rangin (University of Illinois), Prof. norm Coombs (Equal Access to Science and Information) and Marc Thompson (University of Illinois). This workshop is offered over 10 consecutive days and requires approximately one hour of reading per day. 3 small individual assignments will build on one another to produce a final project submission that will showcase each participant's understanding of how to apply universal design principles to communication, teaching, and basic course design, including basic web authoring, styling, and multimedia considerations. Daily focused group discussion will help participants gain a better understanding of key design problems, ideas, and potential solutions. Participants are strongly encouraged to share their ideas, questions, and answers in the workshop discussions and will be automatically enrolled in the discussion list upon registration. Additionally, this workshop will host 3 live, synchronous sessions (on days 1, 6, and 10) via an accessible web conferencing application called Talking Communities. Workshop Goals This workshop will enable participants to: 1.. Develop an understanding of Universal Design Principles for Online Learning. 2.. Understand how people with disabilities access the web and other formats. 3.. Develop an understanding of potential accessibility/usability issues that need to be considered in course design. 4.. Create more accessible/usable HTML-based course content. 5.. Create more accessible/usable Microsoft Word documents. 1.. This workshop is offered via Sloan Consortium and eligible for Sloan-C Certificate Program. 2.. This workshop is a fee-based workshop; however, the fee will be reimbursed upon successful completion of the workshop. For more information visit: http://sloanconsortium.org/node/879 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeano at uwm.edu Mon Apr 12 11:54:59 2010 From: jeano at uwm.edu (Jean M Salzer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] ALEKS Message-ID: <2094385083.476461271098499114.JavaMail.root@mail03.pantherlink.uwm.edu> Hi all, Robert, we utilize aleks at UW-Milwaukee in some hybrid classes, and while creating something accessible for someone who has quite limited vision has been successful with the program, we have found it totally inaccessible for totally blind students who are trying to listen. I haven't had any of my Braille-using students try it with a refreshable Braille display because they have all completed their math requirements via in-class sections per their choice. -- Peace. Jean Salzer, Sr. Counselor BVI Program/Alternative Text Coordinator Student Accessibility Center UW-Milwaukee 414-229-5660, Mitchell Hall B16 The limits of the mind are often mistaken to be the limits of the world. Immanuel Kant ******************************************** NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: This email and any attachments, contains information that is, or may be, covered by electronic communications privacy laws and the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA). If this email contains any student specific data or information, these laws apply. If you are NOT the intended recipient(s) of this email, please disregard the content, delete the email message and notify the original sender. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Mon Apr 12 12:11:58 2010 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] ALEKS In-Reply-To: <2094385083.476461271098499114.JavaMail.root@mail03.pantherlink.uwm.edu> References: <2094385083.476461271098499114.JavaMail.root@mail03.pantherlink.uwm.edu> Message-ID: Okay, thanks. I believe this student is totally blind, so magnification wouldn?t work. However, since I?m not positive about this, I?ll include this thought when I send the info back to them. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jean M Salzer Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:55 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] ALEKS Hi all, Robert, we utilize aleks at UW-Milwaukee in some hybrid classes, and while creating something accessible for someone who has quite limited vision has been successful with the program, we have found it totally inaccessible for totally blind students who are trying to listen. I haven't had any of my Braille-using students try it with a refreshable Braille display because they have all completed their math requirements via in-class sections per their choice. -- Peace. 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URL: From Henriques at stcc.edu Tue Apr 13 04:54:55 2010 From: Henriques at stcc.edu (Connie Henriques) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Web Accessibility for Online Learning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BC4234E.3558.0025.0@stcc.edu> Is this course free? And is taught completely online? Connie Henriques Assistive Technology Technician STCC/Office of Disability Services One Armory Square STE 1 P.O. Box 9000 Springfield, MA 01102-9000 413.755.4082 Henriques@stcc.edu >>> On 4/12/2010 at 2:54 PM, in message , "Hadi Rangin" wrote: Web Accessibility for Online Learning: A How-To Guide for Creating Accessible Content Discover how principles of universal design can help you create course content that can be accessed and used by anyone, including people with disabilities. By the end of this workshop, participants will have a good understanding of the Universal Design Principles for Online Learning, potential accessibility/usability issues that need to be considered in course design, and how to create more accessible/usable course content. As the workshop focus will be on web accessibility, familiarity with an HTML authoring tool is desired but not required. This workshop will be offered by Hadi Rangin (University of Illinois), Prof. norm Coombs (Equal Access to Science and Information) and Marc Thompson (University of Illinois). This workshop is offered over 10 consecutive days and requires approximately one hour of reading per day. 3 small individual assignments will build on one another to produce a final project submission that will showcase each participant?s understanding of how to apply universal design principles to communication, teaching, and basic course design, including basic web authoring, styling, and multimedia considerations. Daily focused group discussion will help participants gain a better understanding of key design problems, ideas, and potential solutions. Participants are strongly encouraged to share their ideas, questions, and answers in the workshop discussions and will be automatically enrolled in the discussion list upon registration. Additionally, this workshop will host 3 live, synchronous sessions (on days 1, 6, and 10) via an accessible web conferencing application called Talking Communities.Workshop Goals This workshop will enable participants to: Develop an understanding of Universal Design Principles for Online Learning. Understand how people with disabilities access the web and other formats. Develop an understanding of potential accessibility/usability issues that need to be considered in course design. Create more accessible/usable HTML-based course content. Create more accessible/usable Microsoft Word documents. From Henriques at stcc.edu Tue Apr 13 04:56:36 2010 From: Henriques at stcc.edu (Connie Henriques) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Web Accessibility for Online Learning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BC423B3.3558.0025.0@stcc.edu> F.Y.I >>> On 4/12/2010 at 2:54 PM, in message , "Hadi Rangin" wrote: Web Accessibility for Online Learning: A How-To Guide for Creating Accessible Content Discover how principles of universal design can help you create course content that can be accessed and used by anyone, including people with disabilities. By the end of this workshop, participants will have a good understanding of the Universal Design Principles for Online Learning, potential accessibility/usability issues that need to be considered in course design, and how to create more accessible/usable course content. As the workshop focus will be on web accessibility, familiarity with an HTML authoring tool is desired but not required. This workshop will be offered by Hadi Rangin (University of Illinois), Prof. norm Coombs (Equal Access to Science and Information) and Marc Thompson (University of Illinois). This workshop is offered over 10 consecutive days and requires approximately one hour of reading per day. 3 small individual assignments will build on one another to produce a final project submission that will showcase each participant?s understanding of how to apply universal design principles to communication, teaching, and basic course design, including basic web authoring, styling, and multimedia considerations. Daily focused group discussion will help participants gain a better understanding of key design problems, ideas, and potential solutions. Participants are strongly encouraged to share their ideas, questions, and answers in the workshop discussions and will be automatically enrolled in the discussion list upon registration. Additionally, this workshop will host 3 live, synchronous sessions (on days 1, 6, and 10) via an accessible web conferencing application called Talking Communities.Workshop Goals This workshop will enable participants to: Develop an understanding of Universal Design Principles for Online Learning. Understand how people with disabilities access the web and other formats. Develop an understanding of potential accessibility/usability issues that need to be considered in course design. Create more accessible/usable HTML-based course content. Create more accessible/usable Microsoft Word documents. From ron at altformatsolutions.com Tue Apr 13 08:22:42 2010 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Open Office Save as DAISY Message-ID: <00c301cadb1d$299537e0$7cbfa7a0$@com> A new version of the Save as Daisy plug-in for Open Office was released yesterday. http://odt2daisy.sourceforge.net/downloads/ Ron Stewart **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, ken --- Ken Petri Program Director OSU Web Accessibility Center 102D Pomerene Hall 1760 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43210 Phone: (614) 292-1760 Fax: (614) 292-4190 mailto:petri.1@osu.edu On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Ron Stewart wrote: > A new version of the Save as Daisy plug-in for Open Office was released > yesterday. http://odt2daisy.sourceforge.net/downloads/ > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Ron Stewart > > Managing Consultant > > Altformat Solutions LLC > > > > 8300 West Weller St > > Yorktown, IN 47396 > > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > > www.altformatsolutions.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Tue Apr 13 11:24:46 2010 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Dawn Hunziker) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] PeopleSoft - Disability Codes Message-ID: <4BC4B6EE.6020502@email.arizona.edu> Hi all, I'm hoping some of you may have past experience and be able to provide some input. The University of Arizona is in the process of changing our student records administration over to Peoplesoft. With our old system, we were able to flag students affiliated with our Disability Resource Center and have this flag / information hidden from other users. However, with the changeover to Peoplesoft, we are being told that this is no longer a possibility without extensive, cost-prohibitive changes to the code. Iif you're using Peoplesoft, how are you "flagging" students with disabilities? Are you using the default "disability" checkbox or are you using another feature such as a group indicator or service indicator? Any information you are able to share is very much appreciated. Thanks, Dawn -- Dawn Hunziker Assistive Technology Coordinator University of Arizona Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 Web Page: http://drc.arizona.edu hunziker@email.arizona.edu Mailing Address: Disability Resouce Center 1224 E. Lowell St. Tucson, AZ 85721 From ron at altformatsolutions.com Tue Apr 13 12:33:08 2010 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Newest version of InftyReader and Save as Daisy. Message-ID: <017801cadb40$260e6d30$722b4790$@com> Hi all, I have been playing around with the newest version of InftyReader 2.8.1. with an Algebra II textbook. It did a very nice job of recognizing the symbology in the 254 page 600DPI pdf and the raw text recognition looks pretty good as well. I saved it out as a Word2007 document and it also appears that the MathML is fairly well formed. Unfortunately the structural recognition leaves still leaves a lot be to be desired, most of the font sizing and page justifications are lost as well as the original pagination. So the new Toshiba OCR engine they have included seems to have improved the text recognition but did not retain any differentiation in font sizing or layout as Omnipage or Abbyy Fine Reader would have. My guess is that it will take several hours to restore the page structure and then I will start looking at the I am attempting to create this as a DAISY 3 book so we shall see how long it takes to restyle the whole thing and create a finished product. I would appreciate any feedback others may have as well. 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We have a separate, in-house database. Any information that we may need from ISSI (such as student schedules, matriculation info, etc) we query from ISIS and run against our database. Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Dawn Hunziker wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm hoping some of you may have past experience and be able to provide some > input. The University of Arizona is in the process of changing our student > records administration over to Peoplesoft. With our old system, we were > able to flag students affiliated with our Disability Resource Center and > have this flag / information hidden from other users. However, with the > changeover to Peoplesoft, we are being told that this is no longer a > possibility without extensive, cost-prohibitive changes to the code. > Iif you're using Peoplesoft, how are you "flagging" students with > disabilities? Are you using the default "disability" checkbox or are you > using another feature such as a group indicator or service indicator? Any > information you are able to share is very much appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Dawn > -- > > Dawn Hunziker > Assistive Technology Coordinator > > University of Arizona > Disability Resource Center > > 520-626-9409 > Web Page: http://drc.arizona.edu > hunziker@email.arizona.edu > > Mailing Address: > Disability Resouce Center > 1224 E. Lowell St. > Tucson, AZ 85721 > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trerise at cayuga-cc.edu Wed Apr 14 05:28:05 2010 From: trerise at cayuga-cc.edu (Sharon Trerise) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Community of Practice sites Message-ID: <3267F8C54E50F4409A01B84791B9A901114EBE4C39@MENTZ.ccc.lan> Does anyone know of a Community of Practice site that is accessible? We have a project that we would like to use a CoP for, but cannot find one that appears to be accessible. We have looked at Ning, SocialGo and SocialEngine. Thank you. Sharon Sharon Trerise Coordinator of Disability Services Cayuga Community College 197 Franklin St. Auburn, NY 13021 315-294-8606 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We purposely did it this way because we have very limited number of seats for this workshop and we don't want people reserve it because it is free and do not come to the workshop. for more information please contact: Kathleen Susan Ives at kives@sloanconsortium.org Yes, the workshop is online but we will have 3 live sessions on day 1, 6 and 10. for more information, please go to: http://www.sloanconsortium.org/node/879 Thanks, Hadi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Wed Apr 14 06:46:39 2010 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: [WebAIM] Design Survey for Spoken Mathematics Message-ID: <000b01cadbd8$e98c8600$bca59200$@com> -----Original Message----- From: webaim-forum-bounces@list.webaim.org [mailto:webaim-forum-bounces@list.webaim.org] On Behalf Of Joshue O Connor Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:06 AM To: WebAIM Discussion List Subject: [WebAIM] Design Survey for Spoken Mathematics Hi y'all, This is a very interesting piece of research being undertaken by colleagues of mine in DCU. Please do take the test if you are interested in the field of accessible maths. Cheers Josh Dear All, As part of a research project in the area of enhancing spoken mathematics equations for visually impaired users the following survey has been created to obtain feedback for the design of a novel system. We would be very grateful if you could take the time to complete the following design survey. The survey contains 5 sections and should take approximately 20-25 minutes to complete and will be online until Wednesday 21st of April. http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/264031/section-1-participant-details If you have any questions regarding the survey please do not hesitate to contact me (emma.murphy@computing.dcu.ie) All best wishes, Emma -- Emma Murphy, PhD Postdoctoral Researcher School of Computing Dublin City University Phone (+353 1) 700 8448 -- Emma Murphy, PhD Postdoctoral Researcher School of Computing Dublin City University Phone (+353 1) 700 8448 -- Emma Murphy, PhD Postdoctoral Researcher School of Computing Dublin City University Phone (+353 1) 700 8448 -- Emma Murphy, PhD Postdoctoral Researcher School of Computing Dublin City University Phone (+353 1) 700 8448 ******************************************************************** National Council for the Blind of Ireland (NCBI) is a company limited by guarantee (registered in Ireland No. 26293) . 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Site Navigation

'; x$("#xg_navigation").before(siteNavSemHeading); var siteSearchLabel = ''; x$("#xn_bar_menu_search_query").before(siteSearchLabel); x$("#xg_sitename").replaceWith('

Your shite name

'); setTimeout("allowEditorFocus()",10000); // need to time because dojo toolbar loads last function allowEditorFocus() { x$("p.texteditor_toolbar > a").attr("tabindex","0"); } } This goes into the "Analytics" section in the "Manage" area of your Ning site. I'm not including the CSS, but it is pretty standard stuff--developers will know about offleft positioning for screen reader access. No guarantees. This code is about a year old and may need tweaking. This code takes advantage of the jquery that is used by Ning. We also developed an easy and accessible way to embed YouTube videos (with captions) into Ning. The foundation of that is here: http://wac.osu.edu/examples/youtube-player-controls/ One thing that is a big problem with Ning is that its user WYSIWYG editor is sort of crappy. Lots of people have complained about this for the last couple of years and Ning hasn't moved forward with it yet.... Also, the Ning sign up uses an inaccessible CAPTCHA. There is no good work-around for that one. It will require someone to assist screen reader users. Best regards, ken --- Ken Petri Program Director OSU Web Accessibility Center 102D Pomerene Hall 1760 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43210 Phone: (614) 292-1760 Fax: (614) 292-4190 mailto:petri.1@osu.edu On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Sharon Trerise wrote: > Does anyone know of a Community of Practice site that is accessible? We > have a project that we would like to use a CoP for, but cannot find one that > appears to be accessible. We have looked at Ning, SocialGo and > SocialEngine. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Sharon > > > > Sharon Trerise > > Coordinator of Disability Services > > Cayuga Community College > > 197 Franklin St. > > Auburn, NY 13021 > > 315-294-8606 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Thu Apr 15 10:51:00 2010 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Dawn Hunziker) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning - OGV file format Message-ID: <4BC75204.4050101@email.arizona.edu> Hi all, I have a department at the University of Arizona that wants to post .ogv video formats on their Website. We are working with Automatic Sync Technologies for the captioning of other media files but .ogv is not supported. Has any successfully captioned this type of file? If so, what steps did you take? Thanks! Dawn -- Dawn Hunziker Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center 626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu From jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu Thu Apr 15 11:01:23 2010 From: jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu (Pielaet, Jon) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning - OGV file format In-Reply-To: <4BC75204.4050101@email.arizona.edu> References: <4BC75204.4050101@email.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002BE2C5C@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Dawn, The .ogv file format is also known as Ogg\Vorbis it is open source and very easily converted. If you would like to convert the file to a proprietary format like mpeg4 or some form of AVI, you can use a transcoding tool. Transcoding tools like: VLC media player, mencoder, and ffmpeg all support Ogg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorbis http://www.videolan.org/ If you need more help, please feel free to contact me directly, Jon Jon P. Pielaet Program Assistant for Instructional Materials Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406-243-2243 Voice/Text 406-243-4461 Direct Line 406-243-5330 Fax -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Hunziker Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:51 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Captioning - OGV file format Hi all, I have a department at the University of Arizona that wants to post .ogv video formats on their Website. We are working with Automatic Sync Technologies for the captioning of other media files but .ogv is not supported. Has any successfully captioned this type of file? If so, what steps did you take? Thanks! Dawn -- Dawn Hunziker Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center 626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jfoliot at stanford.edu Thu Apr 15 11:08:09 2010 From: jfoliot at stanford.edu (John Foliot) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning - OGV file format In-Reply-To: <4BC75204.4050101@email.arizona.edu> References: <4BC75204.4050101@email.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <016401cadcc6$9b1dfeb0$d159fc10$@edu> Dawn Hunziker wrote: > > I have a department at the University of Arizona that wants to post .ogv > video formats on their Website. We are working with Automatic Sync > Technologies for the captioning of other media files but .ogv is not > supported. Has any successfully captioned this type of file? If so, > what steps did you take? Captioning OGG files is still kind of 'tricky', but certainly worth investigating further. I might suggest you start here: http://blog.gingertech.net/2010/02/19/accessibility-support-in-ogg-and-lib oggplay/ Silvia is one of the lead engineers working with Mozilla towards implementation of the