From alice.anderson at doit.wisc.edu  Sun Jan  3 10:12:16 2010
From: alice.anderson at doit.wisc.edu (Alice Anderson)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:44 2018
Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled
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>>

Does anyone have experience or any thoughts about this vendor product?  
It's a service that provides automated audio versions of a Web page's  
content. Click the demo link below to see it in action?

The sales people have approached our campus (main web site) - and I am  
being asked if I know of benefits, or others using etc.

ReadSpeaker Sales email to campus:
> From: Nicholas Croft <nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com>
> Date: December 7, 2009 11:13:34 AM CST
> To: <removed>
> Subject: Your website speech enabled.
>
>
> Thank you for taking the time to speak to me today.
>
> As agreed I am sending you a demo version of your website now  
> ReadSpeaker? enabled so you can listen to the text by clicking on  
> the  button.
>
> ReadSpeaker? makes your web content more accessible to people with  
> impaired vision, are dyslectic, low literacy, functionally  
> illiterate, or are still learning English.
> Considering that at least 20% of the population struggle from some  
> sort of reading disability, a listening option goes a long way to  
> accommodate them. As well as students that would just prefer to  
> listen to the content instead of read it.
>
> A small html code embedded in the website creates a  icon which  
> activates a small player that reads your web content live "on the  
> fly". Nothing is recorded.
>
> It?s a fantastic product that goes beyond the existing website  
> accessibility guidelines set by the W3C and Section 508 in the US,  
> putting your website at the leading edge of web accessibility and  
> giving your organization the potential to access more of the  
> population that wouldn?t be able to access your website?s content  
> normally .
> Your website now ReadSpeaker? enabled:  University of Wisconsin? 
> Madison (Click here)
> How it works:
> ?          Our  ReadSpeaker  solution is hosted by us. Only a small  
> html code is installed into your website , there is zero maintenance ,
> ?          Easy implementation, zero cost for changing content and  
> ?no? hardware requirements! Updates are done automatically.  
> Installation is usually completed within 2 to 3 hours.
> ?          Once the html code, that we send you, is embedded in your  
> website, a ?listen? icon is available on your web page which  
> activates the reader.
> ?          When activated, the web content of the written page is  
> sent to our servers, transformed to an audio file in mp3 format and  
> is then sent back to the visitor.
> ?          What is especially unique about our ReadSpeaker is that  
> the visitors can listen without downloading any software to their  
> computers.
> ?          They can listen live or download the audio for later  
> listening.
> ?          We offer multi language support.
> Here are some additional links of our clients:
>
> United Press International   http://www.upi.com (And select a story)
>
> City of San Francisco   http://www.sfgov.org/site/countyclerk_index.asp?id=101171
>
> City of Niagara falls    http://www.niagarafalls.ca/
>
> Case Studies: Nestle, O'Reilly Media - http://www.voice-corp.com/en/References/Case-Studies/
>
> At this stage all I would like to know is if it is something you  
> like and would consider for your website?
>
> I look forward to speaking with you next year to get your feedback.
>
> Best regards.
>
> Nik Croft
> International Account Manager
> VoiceCorp
> 703-657-7801
> www.voice-corp.com
> nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com
> ReadSpeaker, the Voice of the Web
>

            Alice Anderson
TECHNOLOGY ACCESSIBILITY PROGRAM
   Division of Information Technology (DoIT)
       University of Wisconsin-Madison
      1210 West Dayton Street (3124)
              Madison, WI 53706

           Telephone: 608.262.2129





From nettiet at gmail.com  Sun Jan  3 10:40:38 2010
From: nettiet at gmail.com (Nettie Fischer)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:44 2018
Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled
In-Reply-To: <8A346156-28BA-4CAB-BD63-4FEB21F4C542@doit.wisc.edu>
References: <01db01c86214$08c2c7f0$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu>
	<015101c8621e$9d358350$d7a089f0$%stewart@dolphinusa.com>
	<002a01c8625a$f6791c10$e36b5430$@info>
	<8A346156-28BA-4CAB-BD63-4FEB21F4C542@doit.wisc.edu>
Message-ID: <c52105b21001031040r8635004uc7218cec9a310dc1@mail.gmail.com>

Hi - I am not sure if we are talking about the same product but, I have
ReadSpeaker Sayit on my little website for 3 years and it requires not
maintenance and very easy to use.  I am NOT a webmaster by any means and the
support they provided allowed me to add it to the pages on my website.  The
only problem that I ran into was when VISTA entered the picture.  The little
icon that cued people to click on the "SayIt" button was gone and I do not
know how to get it back.  <smile, well I said I wasn't a webmaster :} >

I am not too sure if my ReadSpeakerSayit is the same program, but if it is
and/or it works on the same principal, I think you will find that it is a
nice tool for your students with various reading and/or visual challanges.
And, the nice part is, it is self-sufficient.  I added the code to my
webpage template so when I add and/or modify a page, I change the page name
in the html code and  it reads the text on the new page.

Nettie Fischer
www.nettietatpconsultants.com

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Alice Anderson <
alice.anderson@doit.wisc.edu> wrote:

>
>>>
> Does anyone have experience or any thoughts about this vendor product? It's
> a service that provides automated audio versions of a Web page's content.
> Click the demo link below to see it in action?
>
> The sales people have approached our campus (main web site) - and I am
> being asked if I know of benefits, or others using etc.
>
> ReadSpeaker Sales email to campus:
>
>> From: Nicholas Croft <nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com>
>> Date: December 7, 2009 11:13:34 AM CST
>> To: <removed>
>> Subject: Your website speech enabled.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to speak to me today.
>>
>> As agreed I am sending you a demo version of your website now ReadSpeaker?
>> enabled so you can listen to the text by clicking on the  button.
>>
>> ReadSpeaker? makes your web content more accessible to people with
>> impaired vision, are dyslectic, low literacy, functionally illiterate, or
>> are still learning English.
>> Considering that at least 20% of the population struggle from some sort of
>> reading disability, a listening option goes a long way to accommodate them.
>> As well as students that would just prefer to listen to the content instead
>> of read it.
>>
>> A small html code embedded in the website creates a  icon which activates
>> a small player that reads your web content live "on the fly". Nothing is
>> recorded.
>>
>> It?s a fantastic product that goes beyond the existing website
>> accessibility guidelines set by the W3C and Section 508 in the US, putting
>> your website at the leading edge of web accessibility and giving your
>> organization the potential to access more of the population that wouldn?t be
>> able to access your website?s content normally .
>> Your website now ReadSpeaker? enabled:  University of Wisconsin?Madison
>> (Click here)
>> How it works:
>> ?          Our  ReadSpeaker  solution is hosted by us. Only a small html
>> code is installed into your website , there is zero maintenance ,
>> ?          Easy implementation, zero cost for changing content and ?no?
>> hardware requirements! Updates are done automatically. Installation is
>> usually completed within 2 to 3 hours.
>> ?          Once the html code, that we send you, is embedded in your
>> website, a ?listen? icon is available on your web page which activates the
>> reader.
>> ?          When activated, the web content of the written page is sent to
>> our servers, transformed to an audio file in mp3 format and is then sent
>> back to the visitor.
>> ?          What is especially unique about our ReadSpeaker is that the
>> visitors can listen without downloading any software to their computers.
>> ?          They can listen live or download the audio for later listening.
>> ?          We offer multi language support.
>> Here are some additional links of our clients:
>>
>> United Press International   http://www.upi.com (And select a story)
>>
>> City of San Francisco
>> http://www.sfgov.org/site/countyclerk_index.asp?id=101171
>>
>> City of Niagara falls    http://www.niagarafalls.ca/
>>
>> Case Studies: Nestle, O'Reilly Media -
>> http://www.voice-corp.com/en/References/Case-Studies/
>>
>> At this stage all I would like to know is if it is something you like and
>> would consider for your website?
>>
>> I look forward to speaking with you next year to get your feedback.
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> Nik Croft
>> International Account Manager
>> VoiceCorp
>> 703-657-7801
>> www.voice-corp.com
>> nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com
>> ReadSpeaker, the Voice of the Web
>>
>>
>           Alice Anderson
> TECHNOLOGY ACCESSIBILITY PROGRAM
>  Division of Information Technology (DoIT)
>      University of Wisconsin-Madison
>     1210 West Dayton Street (3124)
>             Madison, WI 53706
>
>          Telephone: 608.262.2129
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
> Athen@athenpro.org
> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
>



-- 
Nettie T. Fischer, ATP
Assistive Technology Practitioner
Nettiet, ATP Consultants
www.nettietatpconsultants.com
[916] 222-3492 Office
(916) 704-1456 Cell
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From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU  Sun Jan  3 11:21:56 2010
From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:44 2018
Subject: [Athen] videos of users with disabilities surfing web or using
 computer
Message-ID: <20100103122156.AOB11383@riddler.int.colorado.edu>

Hello All:

I'm teaching a course on universal design for digital media this 
semester. I'm looking for video resources I can use to 
demonstrate the issues faced by users with disabilities using 
the computer and accessing the web. Any suggestions, links, 
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks & happy new year,
Howard


From shelley at techpotential.net  Sun Jan  3 12:18:05 2010
From: shelley at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:44 2018
Subject: [Athen] videos of users with disabilities surfing web or using
	computer
In-Reply-To: <20100103122156.AOB11383@riddler.int.colorado.edu>
References: <20100103122156.AOB11383@riddler.int.colorado.edu>
Message-ID: <86047742-102B-40C4-BE66-4374050DB855@techpotential.net>

Hi Howard, and welcome to 2010!

I've used clips from the following in various presentations on UDL and  
Web accessibility:

I like the "Personal Perspective" videos on WebAIM where users with  
various disabilities explain the problems they encounter accessing the  
Web:
Kyle - visual
http://www.webaim.org/media/video/kyle/kyle.asx
Curtis - hearing
http://www.webaim.org/media/video/curtis/curtis.asx
Gordon - motor
http://www.webaim.org/media/video/gordon/gordon.asx

Also, consider the excellent video "Surfing the Web with a  
Screenreader" (AccessIT) where blind user Debbie demonstrates specific  
Web obstacles and how to get past them:
http://www.washington.edu/accessit/surfing.php

There are some good user perspectives on Headstrong Nation's  
documentary on LD and ADHD issues:
http://www.headstrongnation.org/documentary

Lastly, CSU Fresno put out an award-winning 27-minute video years ago  
titled "Know Your Users" where individuals with different disabilities  
discuss how they use the Web and demonstrate problems they encounter;  
however, I can't find it online anywhere.

Best of luck with the class!

- Shelley

_____________________________
Shelley Haven  ATP, RET
Assistive Technology Consultant
Shelley@TechPotential.net
www.TechPotential.net



On Jan 3, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Howard Kramer wrote:

> Hello All:
>
> I'm teaching a course on universal design for digital media this
> semester. I'm looking for video resources I can use to
> demonstrate the issues faced by users with disabilities using
> the computer and accessing the web. Any suggestions, links,
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks & happy new year,
> Howard
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
> Athen@athenpro.org
> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
>



From hkramer.atsol at gmail.com  Sun Jan  3 13:22:07 2010
From: hkramer.atsol at gmail.com (Howard Kramer)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:44 2018
Subject: [Athen] videos of users with disabilities surfing web or using
	computer
In-Reply-To: <86047742-102B-40C4-BE66-4374050DB855@techpotential.net>
References: <20100103122156.AOB11383@riddler.int.colorado.edu>
	<86047742-102B-40C4-BE66-4374050DB855@techpotential.net>
Message-ID: <baa6b6681001031322g66527c9bs26acf79ff8980907@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Shelly - this looks great.

-Howard

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Shelley Haven <shelley@techpotential.net>wrote:

> Hi Howard, and welcome to 2010!
>
> I've used clips from the following in various presentations on UDL and Web
> accessibility:
>
> I like the "Personal Perspective" videos on WebAIM where users with various
> disabilities explain the problems they encounter accessing the Web:
> Kyle - visual
> http://www.webaim.org/media/video/kyle/kyle.asx
> Curtis - hearing
> http://www.webaim.org/media/video/curtis/curtis.asx
> Gordon - motor
> http://www.webaim.org/media/video/gordon/gordon.asx
>
> Also, consider the excellent video "Surfing the Web with a Screenreader"
> (AccessIT) where blind user Debbie demonstrates specific Web obstacles and
> how to get past them:
> http://www.washington.edu/accessit/surfing.php
>
> There are some good user perspectives on Headstrong Nation's documentary on
> LD and ADHD issues:
> http://www.headstrongnation.org/documentary
>
> Lastly, CSU Fresno put out an award-winning 27-minute video years ago
> titled "Know Your Users" where individuals with different disabilities
> discuss how they use the Web and demonstrate problems they encounter;
> however, I can't find it online anywhere.
>
> Best of luck with the class!
>
> - Shelley
>
> _____________________________
> Shelley Haven  ATP, RET
> Assistive Technology Consultant
> Shelley@TechPotential.net
> www.TechPotential.net
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Howard Kramer wrote:
>
>  Hello All:
>>
>> I'm teaching a course on universal design for digital media this
>> semester. I'm looking for video resources I can use to
>> demonstrate the issues faced by users with disabilities using
>> the computer and accessing the web. Any suggestions, links,
>> would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks & happy new year,
>> Howard
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Athen mailing list
>> Athen@athenpro.org
>> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
> Athen@athenpro.org
> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
>



-- 
Howard Kramer
AHG Conference Coordinator
Access Specialist
303-492-8672
fax: 492-5601
Disability Services
Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion
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From dhayman at u.washington.edu  Sun Jan  3 14:41:16 2010
From: dhayman at u.washington.edu (Doug Hayman)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:44 2018
Subject: [Athen] videos of users with disabilities surfing web or using
 computer
In-Reply-To: <20100103122156.AOB11383@riddler.int.colorado.edu>
References: <20100103122156.AOB11383@riddler.int.colorado.edu>
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.01.1001031440520.31866@homer22.u.washington.edu>

We have several at this link:

http://www.uwtv.org/programs/displayseries.aspx?fID=376





Doug Hayman <dhayman@u.washington.edu>
Technology Specialist
DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology)
UW Technology Services
Box 354842
Seattle, WA 98195
(206) 221-4165
http://www.washington.edu/doit

On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Howard Kramer wrote:

> Hello All:
>
> I'm teaching a course on universal design for digital media this
> semester. I'm looking for video resources I can use to
> demonstrate the issues faced by users with disabilities using
> the computer and accessing the web. Any suggestions, links,
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks & happy new year,
> Howard
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
> Athen@athenpro.org
> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
>


From jongund at illinois.edu  Mon Jan  4 05:31:32 2010
From: jongund at illinois.edu (Jon Gunderson)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:44 2018
Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled
In-Reply-To: <8A346156-28BA-4CAB-BD63-4FEB21F4C542@doit.wisc.edu>
References: <01db01c86214$08c2c7f0$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu>
	<015101c8621e$9d358350$d7a089f0$%stewart@dolphinusa.com>
	<002a01c8625a$f6791c10$e36b5430$@info>
	<8A346156-28BA-4CAB-BD63-4FEB21F4C542@doit.wisc.edu>
Message-ID: <20100104073132.CAQ31350@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu>

There are already many assistive technologies to read web pages (some free), and it seems that just a straight conversion of HTML to MP3 of a web site could be confusing, since the reading order may not make sense.

You may want to compare to the product to BrowseAloud.

http://www.browsealoud.com/page.asp?pg_id=80094&tile=USA

I have seen demos of Browse Aloud and I think it has some benefits.

Unfortunately our campus right now is not interested in the product.

Jon


---- Original message ----
>Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 12:12:16 -0600
>From: Alice Anderson <alice.anderson@doit.wisc.edu>  
>Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled  
>To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network <athen@athenpro.org>
>
>>>
>
>Does anyone have experience or any thoughts about this vendor product?  
>It's a service that provides automated audio versions of a Web page's  
>content. Click the demo link below to see it in action?
>
>The sales people have approached our campus (main web site) - and I am  
>being asked if I know of benefits, or others using etc.
>
>ReadSpeaker Sales email to campus:
>> From: Nicholas Croft <nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com>
>> Date: December 7, 2009 11:13:34 AM CST
>> To: <removed>
>> Subject: Your website speech enabled.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to speak to me today.
>>
>> As agreed I am sending you a demo version of your website now  
>> ReadSpeaker? enabled so you can listen to the text by clicking on  
>> the  button.
>>
>> ReadSpeaker? makes your web content more accessible to people with  
>> impaired vision, are dyslectic, low literacy, functionally  
>> illiterate, or are still learning English.
>> Considering that at least 20% of the population struggle from some  
>> sort of reading disability, a listening option goes a long way to  
>> accommodate them. As well as students that would just prefer to  
>> listen to the content instead of read it.
>>
>> A small html code embedded in the website creates a  icon which  
>> activates a small player that reads your web content live "on the  
>> fly". Nothing is recorded.
>>
>> It?s a fantastic product that goes beyond the existing website  
>> accessibility guidelines set by the W3C and Section 508 in the US,  
>> putting your website at the leading edge of web accessibility and  
>> giving your organization the potential to access more of the  
>> population that wouldn?t be able to access your website?s content  
>> normally .
>> Your website now ReadSpeaker? enabled:  University of Wisconsin? 
>> Madison (Click here)
>> How it works:
>> ?          Our  ReadSpeaker  solution is hosted by us. Only a small  
>> html code is installed into your website , there is zero maintenance ,
>> ?          Easy implementation, zero cost for changing content and  
>> ?no? hardware requirements! Updates are done automatically.  
>> Installation is usually completed within 2 to 3 hours.
>> ?          Once the html code, that we send you, is embedded in your  
>> website, a ?listen? icon is available on your web page which  
>> activates the reader.
>> ?          When activated, the web content of the written page is  
>> sent to our servers, transformed to an audio file in mp3 format and  
>> is then sent back to the visitor.
>> ?          What is especially unique about our ReadSpeaker is that  
>> the visitors can listen without downloading any software to their  
>> computers.
>> ?          They can listen live or download the audio for later  
>> listening.
>> ?          We offer multi language support.
>> Here are some additional links of our clients:
>>
>> United Press International   http://www.upi.com (And select a story)
>>
>> City of San Francisco   http://www.sfgov.org/site/countyclerk_index.asp?id=101171
>>
>> City of Niagara falls    http://www.niagarafalls.ca/
>>
>> Case Studies: Nestle, O'Reilly Media - http://www.voice-corp.com/en/References/Case-Studies/
>>
>> At this stage all I would like to know is if it is something you  
>> like and would consider for your website?
>>
>> I look forward to speaking with you next year to get your feedback.
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> Nik Croft
>> International Account Manager
>> VoiceCorp
>> 703-657-7801
>> www.voice-corp.com
>> nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com
>> ReadSpeaker, the Voice of the Web
>>
>
>            Alice Anderson
>TECHNOLOGY ACCESSIBILITY PROGRAM
>   Division of Information Technology (DoIT)
>       University of Wisconsin-Madison
>      1210 West Dayton Street (3124)
>              Madison, WI 53706
>
>           Telephone: 608.262.2129
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Athen mailing list
>Athen@athenpro.org
>http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
Jon Gunderson, Ph.D.
Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility
Disability Resources and Educational Services

Rehabilitation Education Center
Room 86
1207 S. Oak Street
Champaign, Illinois 61820

Voice: (217) 244-5870

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From petri.1 at osu.edu  Mon Jan  4 08:53:14 2010
From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Ken Petri)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:44 2018
Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled
In-Reply-To: <20100104073132.CAQ31350@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu>
References: <01db01c86214$08c2c7f0$ca5f8a80@ad.colorado.edu> 
	<015101c8621e$9d358350$d7a089f0$%stewart@dolphinusa.com>
	<002a01c8625a$f6791c10$e36b5430$@info> 
	<8A346156-28BA-4CAB-BD63-4FEB21F4C542@doit.wisc.edu>
	<20100104073132.CAQ31350@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <d16d6a2d1001040853s3ab86c84u35381c2b75e660d7@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Alice,

It is somewhat likely we will implement ReadSpeaker Enterprise at OSU. It is
extremely affordable, has low latency, excellent (and trainable) voices, and
perfectly synchronizes highlighting with playback. The web developer chooses
what portion of the page to have spoken, so this is not a complete
conversion of content. Implementation is trivial for a developer--a couple
of JavaScript links and some comment tags. The player itself is Flash but
the stop, start, close and MP3 download buttons are fully keyboard
accessible.

BrowseAloud is a very good product, but it requires a download and is more
expensive--though it provides more features. One of the things I like best
about ReadSpeaker is it makes an accessibility feature readily visible on
pages implementing it. Our hope is this will help make the commitment to
access more overt and help further our university mission of creating a
"welcoming environment."

How we plan to implement: We are exploring purchase of a one-year
full-domain license. It will be up to individual developers to implement on
their own timeline, but my Center along with New Media (our web
communications unit) will promote the product, provide model
implementations, and code samples. Purchase and contract negotiation will be
handled by OSU Site License Software, our campus bulk and campus-wide
software licensing unit.

We have not reached our campus funding goal yet, but we are pretty close. If
things go well (they don't always--an experience all of us are familiar
with) and funding comes through, we should have some notion of campus
adoption and usage by the middle of Spring Quarter.

Best,
ken
-------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Petri
 Program Director
 OSU Web Accessibility Center
 102D Pomerene Hall
 1760 Neil Avenue
 Columbus, Ohio  43210
 Phone: (614) 292-1760
 Fax: (614) 292-4190
 mailto:petri.1@osu.edu
-------------------------------------------------------


On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Jon Gunderson <jongund@illinois.edu> wrote:

> There are already many assistive technologies to read web pages (some
> free), and it seems that just a straight conversion of HTML to MP3 of a web
> site could be confusing, since the reading order may not make sense.
>
> You may want to compare to the product to BrowseAloud.
>
> http://www.browsealoud.com/page.asp?pg_id=80094&tile=USA
>
> I have seen demos of Browse Aloud and I think it has some benefits.
>
> Unfortunately our campus right now is not interested in the product.
>
> Jon
>
>
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 12:12:16 -0600
> >From: Alice Anderson <alice.anderson@doit.wisc.edu>
> >Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled
> >To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network <athen@athenpro.org>
> >
> >>>
> >
> >Does anyone have experience or any thoughts about this vendor product?
> >It's a service that provides automated audio versions of a Web page's
> >content. Click the demo link below to see it in action?
> >
> >The sales people have approached our campus (main web site) - and I am
> >being asked if I know of benefits, or others using etc.
> >
> >ReadSpeaker Sales email to campus:
> >> From: Nicholas Croft <nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com>
> >> Date: December 7, 2009 11:13:34 AM CST
> >> To: <removed>
> >> Subject: Your website speech enabled.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you for taking the time to speak to me today.
> >>
> >> As agreed I am sending you a demo version of your website now
> >> ReadSpeaker? enabled so you can listen to the text by clicking on
> >> the  button.
> >>
> >> ReadSpeaker? makes your web content more accessible to people with
> >> impaired vision, are dyslectic, low literacy, functionally
> >> illiterate, or are still learning English.
> >> Considering that at least 20% of the population struggle from some
> >> sort of reading disability, a listening option goes a long way to
> >> accommodate them. As well as students that would just prefer to
> >> listen to the content instead of read it.
> >>
> >> A small html code embedded in the website creates a  icon which
> >> activates a small player that reads your web content live "on the
> >> fly". Nothing is recorded.
> >>
> >> It?s a fantastic product that goes beyond the existing website
> >> accessibility guidelines set by the W3C and Section 508 in the US,
> >> putting your website at the leading edge of web accessibility and
> >> giving your organization the potential to access more of the
> >> population that wouldn?t be able to access your website?s content
> >> normally .
> >> Your website now ReadSpeaker? enabled:  University of Wisconsin?
> >> Madison (Click here)
> >> How it works:
> >> ?          Our  ReadSpeaker  solution is hosted by us. Only a small
> >> html code is installed into your website , there is zero maintenance ,
> >> ?          Easy implementation, zero cost for changing content and
> >> ?no? hardware requirements! Updates are done automatically.
> >> Installation is usually completed within 2 to 3 hours.
> >> ?          Once the html code, that we send you, is embedded in your
> >> website, a ?listen? icon is available on your web page which
> >> activates the reader.
> >> ?          When activated, the web content of the written page is
> >> sent to our servers, transformed to an audio file in mp3 format and
> >> is then sent back to the visitor.
> >> ?          What is especially unique about our ReadSpeaker is that
> >> the visitors can listen without downloading any software to their
> >> computers.
> >> ?          They can listen live or download the audio for later
> >> listening.
> >> ?          We offer multi language support.
> >> Here are some additional links of our clients:
> >>
> >> United Press International   http://www.upi.com (And select a story)
> >>
> >> City of San Francisco
> http://www.sfgov.org/site/countyclerk_index.asp?id=101171
> >>
> >> City of Niagara falls    http://www.niagarafalls.ca/
> >>
> >> Case Studies: Nestle, O'Reilly Media -
> http://www.voice-corp.com/en/References/Case-Studies/
> >>
> >> At this stage all I would like to know is if it is something you
> >> like and would consider for your website?
> >>
> >> I look forward to speaking with you next year to get your feedback.
> >>
> >> Best regards.
> >>
> >> Nik Croft
> >> International Account Manager
> >> VoiceCorp
> >> 703-657-7801
> >> www.voice-corp.com
> >> nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com
> >> ReadSpeaker, the Voice of the Web
> >>
> >
> >            Alice Anderson
> >TECHNOLOGY ACCESSIBILITY PROGRAM
> >   Division of Information Technology (DoIT)
> >       University of Wisconsin-Madison
> >      1210 West Dayton Street (3124)
> >              Madison, WI 53706
> >
> >           Telephone: 608.262.2129
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Athen mailing list
> >Athen@athenpro.org
> >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
> Jon Gunderson, Ph.D.
> Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility
> Disability Resources and Educational Services
>
> Rehabilitation Education Center
> Room 86
> 1207 S. Oak Street
> Champaign, Illinois 61820
>
> Voice: (217) 244-5870
>
> WWW: http://www.cita.illinois.edu/
> WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/
>
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From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled
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We have come up with a third way - still very much in a testing phase!  

 

JISC TechDis have funded a toolbar that can be used with many websites in
any browser and you can also add the script to your website for free.  It
does not have lovely voices or all the options for speaking and highlighting
text like Browsealoud, but it is free and will be launched by JISC TechDis
on Thursday.  

 

It is not designed for visual impairment although there is a text enlarger
menu as we feel the browser zoom features better than we can achieve.  The
text to speech works for the whole page or sections you highlight and you
can make some colour changes plus spell check and use the dictionary.  Here
is the link to our pages but I will let you know if this changes after the
launch   <http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk/toolbar>
http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk/toolbar    To learn about the functions go to
<http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk/ToolBar/functions>
http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk/ToolBar/functions   

 

JISC Techdis toolbar Lite is the best option for experimenting. 

 

Best wishes E.A. 

 

Mrs E.A. Draffan

Learning Societies Lab,

ECS, University of Southampton,

Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246

http://www.lexdis.org

http://www.emptech.info

 

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ken Petri
Sent: 04 January 2010 16:53
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled

 

Hi Alice,

It is somewhat likely we will implement ReadSpeaker Enterprise at OSU. It is
extremely affordable, has low latency, excellent (and trainable) voices, and
perfectly synchronizes highlighting with playback. The web developer chooses
what portion of the page to have spoken, so this is not a complete
conversion of content. Implementation is trivial for a developer--a couple
of JavaScript links and some comment tags. The player itself is Flash but
the stop, start, close and MP3 download buttons are fully keyboard
accessible.

BrowseAloud is a very good product, but it requires a download and is more
expensive--though it provides more features. One of the things I like best
about ReadSpeaker is it makes an accessibility feature readily visible on
pages implementing it. Our hope is this will help make the commitment to
access more overt and help further our university mission of creating a
"welcoming environment."

How we plan to implement: We are exploring purchase of a one-year
full-domain license. It will be up to individual developers to implement on
their own timeline, but my Center along with New Media (our web
communications unit) will promote the product, provide model
implementations, and code samples. Purchase and contract negotiation will be
handled by OSU Site License Software, our campus bulk and campus-wide
software licensing unit.

We have not reached our campus funding goal yet, but we are pretty close. If
things go well (they don't always--an experience all of us are familiar
with) and funding comes through, we should have some notion of campus
adoption and usage by the middle of Spring Quarter.

Best,
ken
-------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Petri                    
 Program Director
 OSU Web Accessibility Center
 102D Pomerene Hall
 1760 Neil Avenue
 Columbus, Ohio  43210
 Phone: (614) 292-1760
 Fax: (614) 292-4190
 mailto:petri.1@osu.edu
-------------------------------------------------------



On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Jon Gunderson <jongund@illinois.edu> wrote:

There are already many assistive technologies to read web pages (some free),
and it seems that just a straight conversion of HTML to MP3 of a web site
could be confusing, since the reading order may not make sense.

You may want to compare to the product to BrowseAloud.

http://www.browsealoud.com/page.asp?pg_id=80094
<http://www.browsealoud.com/page.asp?pg_id=80094&tile=USA> &tile=USA

I have seen demos of Browse Aloud and I think it has some benefits.

Unfortunately our campus right now is not interested in the product.

Jon



---- Original message ----
>Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 12:12:16 -0600
>From: Alice Anderson <alice.anderson@doit.wisc.edu>
>Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled
>To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network <athen@athenpro.org>
>
>>>
>
>Does anyone have experience or any thoughts about this vendor product?
>It's a service that provides automated audio versions of a Web page's
>content. Click the demo link below to see it in action?
>
>The sales people have approached our campus (main web site) - and I am
>being asked if I know of benefits, or others using etc.
>
>ReadSpeaker Sales email to campus:
>> From: Nicholas Croft <nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com>
>> Date: December 7, 2009 11:13:34 AM CST
>> To: <removed>
>> Subject: Your website speech enabled.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to speak to me today.
>>
>> As agreed I am sending you a demo version of your website now
>> ReadSpeakerR enabled so you can listen to the text by clicking on
>> the  button.
>>
>> ReadSpeakerR makes your web content more accessible to people with
>> impaired vision, are dyslectic, low literacy, functionally
>> illiterate, or are still learning English.
>> Considering that at least 20% of the population struggle from some
>> sort of reading disability, a listening option goes a long way to
>> accommodate them. As well as students that would just prefer to
>> listen to the content instead of read it.
>>
>> A small html code embedded in the website creates a  icon which
>> activates a small player that reads your web content live "on the
>> fly". Nothing is recorded.
>>
>> It's a fantastic product that goes beyond the existing website
>> accessibility guidelines set by the W3C and Section 508 in the US,
>> putting your website at the leading edge of web accessibility and
>> giving your organization the potential to access more of the
>> population that wouldn't be able to access your website's content
>> normally .
>> Your website now ReadSpeakerR enabled:  University of Wisconsin-
>> Madison (Click here)
>> How it works:
>> .          Our  ReadSpeaker  solution is hosted by us. Only a small
>> html code is installed into your website , there is zero maintenance ,
>> .          Easy implementation, zero cost for changing content and
>> "no" hardware requirements! Updates are done automatically.
>> Installation is usually completed within 2 to 3 hours.
>> .          Once the html code, that we send you, is embedded in your
>> website, a "listen" icon is available on your web page which
>> activates the reader.
>> .          When activated, the web content of the written page is
>> sent to our servers, transformed to an audio file in mp3 format and
>> is then sent back to the visitor.
>> .          What is especially unique about our ReadSpeaker is that
>> the visitors can listen without downloading any software to their
>> computers.
>> .          They can listen live or download the audio for later
>> listening.
>> .          We offer multi language support.
>> Here are some additional links of our clients:
>>
>> United Press International   http://www.upi.com (And select a story)
>>
>> City of San Francisco
http://www.sfgov.org/site/countyclerk_index.asp?id=101171
>>
>> City of Niagara falls    http://www.niagarafalls.ca/
>>
>> Case Studies: Nestle, O'Reilly Media -
http://www.voice-corp.com/en/References/Case-Studies/
>>
>> At this stage all I would like to know is if it is something you
>> like and would consider for your website?
>>
>> I look forward to speaking with you next year to get your feedback.
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> Nik Croft
>> International Account Manager
>> VoiceCorp
>> 703-657-7801
>> www.voice-corp.com
>> nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com
>> ReadSpeaker, the Voice of the Web
>>
>
>            Alice Anderson
>TECHNOLOGY ACCESSIBILITY PROGRAM
>   Division of Information Technology (DoIT)
>       University of Wisconsin-Madison
>      1210 West Dayton Street (3124)
>              Madison, WI 53706
>
>           Telephone: 608.262.2129
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Athen mailing list
>Athen@athenpro.org
>http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org

Jon Gunderson, Ph.D.
Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility
Disability Resources and Educational Services

Rehabilitation Education Center
Room 86
1207 S. Oak Street
Champaign, Illinois 61820

Voice: (217) 244-5870

WWW: http://www.cita.illinois.edu/
WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/

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From: Linda.Nieuwenhuijsen at Handicap-Studie.nl (Linda Nieuwenhuijsen)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled
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I wanted to try the toolbar, but i don't seem to be able to open the links.
Are these the right ones?

Linda Nieuwenhuijsen
Helpdesk | digital accessibility & assistive technology
Handicap + studie

Linda.nieuwenhuijsen@handicap-studie.nl<mailto:Linda.nieuwenhuijsen@handicap-studie.nl>



Van: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] Namens E.A. Draffan
Verzonden: maandag 4 januari 2010 21:45
Aan: petri.1@osu.edu; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Onderwerp: Re: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled

We have come up with a third way - still very much in a testing phase!

JISC TechDis have funded a toolbar that can be used with many websites in any browser and you can also add the script to your website for free.  It does not have lovely voices or all the options for speaking and highlighting text like Browsealoud, but it is free and will be launched by JISC TechDis on Thursday.

It is not designed for visual impairment although there is a text enlarger menu as we feel the browser zoom features better than we can achieve.  The text to speech works for the whole page or sections you highlight and you can make some colour changes plus spell check and use the dictionary.  Here is the link to our pages but I will let you know if this changes after the launch  http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk/toolbar    To learn about the functions go to http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk/ToolBar/functions

JISC Techdis toolbar Lite is the best option for experimenting.

Best wishes E.A.

Mrs E.A. Draffan
Learning Societies Lab,
ECS, University of Southampton,
Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246
http://www.lexdis.org
http://www.emptech.info

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ken Petri
Sent: 04 January 2010 16:53
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled

Hi Alice,

It is somewhat likely we will implement ReadSpeaker Enterprise at OSU. It is extremely affordable, has low latency, excellent (and trainable) voices, and perfectly synchronizes highlighting with playback. The web developer chooses what portion of the page to have spoken, so this is not a complete conversion of content. Implementation is trivial for a developer--a couple of JavaScript links and some comment tags. The player itself is Flash but the stop, start, close and MP3 download buttons are fully keyboard accessible.

BrowseAloud is a very good product, but it requires a download and is more expensive--though it provides more features. One of the things I like best about ReadSpeaker is it makes an accessibility feature readily visible on pages implementing it. Our hope is this will help make the commitment to access more overt and help further our university mission of creating a "welcoming environment."

How we plan to implement: We are exploring purchase of a one-year full-domain license. It will be up to individual developers to implement on their own timeline, but my Center along with New Media (our web communications unit) will promote the product, provide model implementations, and code samples. Purchase and contract negotiation will be handled by OSU Site License Software, our campus bulk and campus-wide software licensing unit.

We have not reached our campus funding goal yet, but we are pretty close. If things go well (they don't always--an experience all of us are familiar with) and funding comes through, we should have some notion of campus adoption and usage by the middle of Spring Quarter.

Best,
ken
-------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Petri
 Program Director
 OSU Web Accessibility Center
 102D Pomerene Hall
 1760 Neil Avenue
 Columbus, Ohio  43210
 Phone: (614) 292-1760
 Fax: (614) 292-4190
 mailto:petri.1@osu.edu<mailto:petri.1@osu.edu>
-------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Jon Gunderson <jongund@illinois.edu<mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>> wrote:
There are already many assistive technologies to read web pages (some free), and it seems that just a straight conversion of HTML to MP3 of a web site could be confusing, since the reading order may not make sense.

You may want to compare to the product to BrowseAloud.

http://www.browsealoud.com/page.asp?pg_id=80094&tile=USA

I have seen demos of Browse Aloud and I think it has some benefits.

Unfortunately our campus right now is not interested in the product.

Jon


---- Original message ----
>Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 12:12:16 -0600
>From: Alice Anderson <alice.anderson@doit.wisc.edu<mailto:alice.anderson@doit.wisc.edu>>
>Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled
>To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network <athen@athenpro.org<mailto:athen@athenpro.org>>
>
>>>
>
>Does anyone have experience or any thoughts about this vendor product?
>It's a service that provides automated audio versions of a Web page's
>content. Click the demo link below to see it in action?
>
>The sales people have approached our campus (main web site) - and I am
>being asked if I know of benefits, or others using etc.
>
>ReadSpeaker Sales email to campus:
>> From: Nicholas Croft <nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com<mailto:nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com>>
>> Date: December 7, 2009 11:13:34 AM CST
>> To: <removed>
>> Subject: Your website speech enabled.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to speak to me today.
>>
>> As agreed I am sending you a demo version of your website now
>> ReadSpeaker(r) enabled so you can listen to the text by clicking on
>> the  button.
>>
>> ReadSpeaker(r) makes your web content more accessible to people with
>> impaired vision, are dyslectic, low literacy, functionally
>> illiterate, or are still learning English.
>> Considering that at least 20% of the population struggle from some
>> sort of reading disability, a listening option goes a long way to
>> accommodate them. As well as students that would just prefer to
>> listen to the content instead of read it.
>>
>> A small html code embedded in the website creates a  icon which
>> activates a small player that reads your web content live "on the
>> fly". Nothing is recorded.
>>
>> It's a fantastic product that goes beyond the existing website
>> accessibility guidelines set by the W3C and Section 508 in the US,
>> putting your website at the leading edge of web accessibility and
>> giving your organization the potential to access more of the
>> population that wouldn't be able to access your website's content
>> normally .
>> Your website now ReadSpeaker(r) enabled:  University of Wisconsin-
>> Madison (Click here)
>> How it works:
>> *          Our  ReadSpeaker  solution is hosted by us. Only a small
>> html code is installed into your website , there is zero maintenance ,
>> *          Easy implementation, zero cost for changing content and
>> "no" hardware requirements! Updates are done automatically.
>> Installation is usually completed within 2 to 3 hours.
>> *          Once the html code, that we send you, is embedded in your
>> website, a "listen" icon is available on your web page which
>> activates the reader.
>> *          When activated, the web content of the written page is
>> sent to our servers, transformed to an audio file in mp3 format and
>> is then sent back to the visitor.
>> *          What is especially unique about our ReadSpeaker is that
>> the visitors can listen without downloading any software to their
>> computers.
>> *          They can listen live or download the audio for later
>> listening.
>> *          We offer multi language support.
>> Here are some additional links of our clients:
>>
>> United Press International   http://www.upi.com (And select a story)
>>
>> City of San Francisco   http://www.sfgov.org/site/countyclerk_index.asp?id=101171
>>
>> City of Niagara falls    http://www.niagarafalls.ca/
>>
>> Case Studies: Nestle, O'Reilly Media - http://www.voice-corp.com/en/References/Case-Studies/
>>
>> At this stage all I would like to know is if it is something you
>> like and would consider for your website?
>>
>> I look forward to speaking with you next year to get your feedback.
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> Nik Croft
>> International Account Manager
>> VoiceCorp
>> 703-657-7801
>> www.voice-corp.com<http://www.voice-corp.com>
>> nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com<mailto:nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com>
>> ReadSpeaker, the Voice of the Web
>>
>
>            Alice Anderson
>TECHNOLOGY ACCESSIBILITY PROGRAM
>   Division of Information Technology (DoIT)
>       University of Wisconsin-Madison
>      1210 West Dayton Street (3124)
>              Madison, WI 53706
>
>           Telephone: 608.262.2129
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Athen mailing list
>Athen@athenpro.org<mailto:Athen@athenpro.org>
>http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
Jon Gunderson, Ph.D.
Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility
Disability Resources and Educational Services

Rehabilitation Education Center
Room 86
1207 S. Oak Street
Champaign, Illinois 61820

Voice: (217) 244-5870

WWW: http://www.cita.illinois.edu/
WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/

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From ea at emptech.info  Tue Jan  5 03:04:40 2010
From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled
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Oh dear I am so sorry to hear it was not working - het spijt mij!   

 

I thought I had given you the right links - they worked this morning - try
going to the download page  <http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk/ToolBar/download>
http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk/ToolBar/download  (please note there is no
www).  

 

The update to  Google Chrome over Christmas did mangle a few things.
Internet Explorer sometimes causes problems with Greasemonkey and the
installer but the Lite version works with everything really easily.   

 

Please let us know if you have problems as we are very much in a testing
phase with the formal launch tomorrow we are crossing fingers <grin> 

 

Best wishes E.A. 

 

Mrs E.A. Draffan

Learning Societies Lab,

ECS, University of Southampton,

Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246

http://www.lexdis.org

http://www.emptech.info

 

From: Linda Nieuwenhuijsen [mailto:Linda.Nieuwenhuysen@handicap-studie.nl] 
Sent: 05 January 2010 08:27
To: ea@emptech.info; Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: RE: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled

 

I wanted to try the toolbar, but i don't seem to be able to open the links. 

Are these the right ones? 

 

Linda Nieuwenhuijsen

Helpdesk | digital accessibility & assistive technology

Handicap + studie

 

 

 

Van: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] Namens
E.A. Draffan
Verzonden: maandag 4 januari 2010 21:45
Aan: petri.1@osu.edu; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Onderwerp: Re: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled

 

We have come up with a third way - still very much in a testing phase!  

 

JISC TechDis have funded a toolbar that can be used with many websites in
any browser and you can also add the script to your website for free.  It
does not have lovely voices or all the options for speaking and highlighting
text like Browsealoud, but it is free and will be launched by JISC TechDis
on Thursday.  

 

It is not designed for visual impairment although there is a text enlarger
menu as we feel the browser zoom features better than we can achieve.  The
text to speech works for the whole page or sections you highlight and you
can make some colour changes plus spell check and use the dictionary.  Here
is the link to our pages but I will let you know if this changes after the
launch   <http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk/toolbar>
http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk/toolbar    To learn about the functions go to
<http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk/ToolBar/functions>
http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk/ToolBar/functions   

 

JISC Techdis toolbar Lite is the best option for experimenting. 

 

Best wishes E.A. 

 

Mrs E.A. Draffan

Learning Societies Lab,

ECS, University of Southampton,

Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246

http://www.lexdis.org

http://www.emptech.info

 

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ken Petri
Sent: 04 January 2010 16:53
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled

 

Hi Alice,

It is somewhat likely we will implement ReadSpeaker Enterprise at OSU. It is
extremely affordable, has low latency, excellent (and trainable) voices, and
perfectly synchronizes highlighting with playback. The web developer chooses
what portion of the page to have spoken, so this is not a complete
conversion of content. Implementation is trivial for a developer--a couple
of JavaScript links and some comment tags. The player itself is Flash but
the stop, start, close and MP3 download buttons are fully keyboard
accessible.

BrowseAloud is a very good product, but it requires a download and is more
expensive--though it provides more features. One of the things I like best
about ReadSpeaker is it makes an accessibility feature readily visible on
pages implementing it. Our hope is this will help make the commitment to
access more overt and help further our university mission of creating a
"welcoming environment."

How we plan to implement: We are exploring purchase of a one-year
full-domain license. It will be up to individual developers to implement on
their own timeline, but my Center along with New Media (our web
communications unit) will promote the product, provide model
implementations, and code samples. Purchase and contract negotiation will be
handled by OSU Site License Software, our campus bulk and campus-wide
software licensing unit.

We have not reached our campus funding goal yet, but we are pretty close. If
things go well (they don't always--an experience all of us are familiar
with) and funding comes through, we should have some notion of campus
adoption and usage by the middle of Spring Quarter.

Best,
ken
-------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Petri                    
 Program Director
 OSU Web Accessibility Center
 102D Pomerene Hall
 1760 Neil Avenue
 Columbus, Ohio  43210
 Phone: (614) 292-1760
 Fax: (614) 292-4190
 mailto:petri.1@osu.edu
-------------------------------------------------------

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Jon Gunderson <jongund@illinois.edu> wrote:

There are already many assistive technologies to read web pages (some free),
and it seems that just a straight conversion of HTML to MP3 of a web site
could be confusing, since the reading order may not make sense.

You may want to compare to the product to BrowseAloud.

http://www.browsealoud.com/page.asp?pg_id=80094
<http://www.browsealoud.com/page.asp?pg_id=80094&tile=USA> &tile=USA

I have seen demos of Browse Aloud and I think it has some benefits.

Unfortunately our campus right now is not interested in the product.

Jon



---- Original message ----
>Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 12:12:16 -0600
>From: Alice Anderson <alice.anderson@doit.wisc.edu>
>Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker - Your website speech enabled
>To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network <athen@athenpro.org>
>
>>>
>
>Does anyone have experience or any thoughts about this vendor product?
>It's a service that provides automated audio versions of a Web page's
>content. Click the demo link below to see it in action?
>
>The sales people have approached our campus (main web site) - and I am
>being asked if I know of benefits, or others using etc.
>
>ReadSpeaker Sales email to campus:
>> From: Nicholas Croft <nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com>
>> Date: December 7, 2009 11:13:34 AM CST
>> To: <removed>
>> Subject: Your website speech enabled.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to speak to me today.
>>
>> As agreed I am sending you a demo version of your website now
>> ReadSpeakerR enabled so you can listen to the text by clicking on
>> the  button.
>>
>> ReadSpeakerR makes your web content more accessible to people with
>> impaired vision, are dyslectic, low literacy, functionally
>> illiterate, or are still learning English.
>> Considering that at least 20% of the population struggle from some
>> sort of reading disability, a listening option goes a long way to
>> accommodate them. As well as students that would just prefer to
>> listen to the content instead of read it.
>>
>> A small html code embedded in the website creates a  icon which
>> activates a small player that reads your web content live "on the
>> fly". Nothing is recorded.
>>
>> It's a fantastic product that goes beyond the existing website
>> accessibility guidelines set by the W3C and Section 508 in the US,
>> putting your website at the leading edge of web accessibility and
>> giving your organization the potential to access more of the
>> population that wouldn't be able to access your website's content
>> normally .
>> Your website now ReadSpeakerR enabled:  University of Wisconsin-
>> Madison (Click here)
>> How it works:
>> .          Our  ReadSpeaker  solution is hosted by us. Only a small
>> html code is installed into your website , there is zero maintenance ,
>> .          Easy implementation, zero cost for changing content and
>> "no" hardware requirements! Updates are done automatically.
>> Installation is usually completed within 2 to 3 hours.
>> .          Once the html code, that we send you, is embedded in your
>> website, a "listen" icon is available on your web page which
>> activates the reader.
>> .          When activated, the web content of the written page is
>> sent to our servers, transformed to an audio file in mp3 format and
>> is then sent back to the visitor.
>> .          What is especially unique about our ReadSpeaker is that
>> the visitors can listen without downloading any software to their
>> computers.
>> .          They can listen live or download the audio for later
>> listening.
>> .          We offer multi language support.
>> Here are some additional links of our clients:
>>
>> United Press International   http://www.upi.com (And select a story)
>>
>> City of San Francisco
http://www.sfgov.org/site/countyclerk_index.asp?id=101171
>>
>> City of Niagara falls    http://www.niagarafalls.ca/
>>
>> Case Studies: Nestle, O'Reilly Media -
http://www.voice-corp.com/en/References/Case-Studies/
>>
>> At this stage all I would like to know is if it is something you
>> like and would consider for your website?
>>
>> I look forward to speaking with you next year to get your feedback.
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> Nik Croft
>> International Account Manager
>> VoiceCorp
>> 703-657-7801
>> www.voice-corp.com
>> nicholas.croft@voice-corp.com
>> ReadSpeaker, the Voice of the Web
>>
>
>            Alice Anderson
>TECHNOLOGY ACCESSIBILITY PROGRAM
>   Division of Information Technology (DoIT)
>       University of Wisconsin-Madison
>      1210 West Dayton Street (3124)
>              Madison, WI 53706
>
>           Telephone: 608.262.2129
>
>
>
>
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Rehabilitation Education Center
Room 86
1207 S. Oak Street
Champaign, Illinois 61820

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From ron at ahead.org  Fri Jan  8 07:24:00 2010
From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Document structure in LD software
Message-ID: <026c01ca9076$9ad288f0$d0779ad0$@org>

Morning all, hope you all had a restful and rewarding holiday break!

 

I am trying to clarify some things in my mind so any help would be greatly
appreciated since I no longer have access to many of the "reading" software
packages or what I do have is seriously out of date.  I am trying to
maintain as much original structure in a MS Word source document on bringing
it into programs such as K3000, K1000, WYNN ect.  Things I am particularly
interested in preserving are columns, reading order, descriptive text and
the like.

 

Is this even reasonably possible or do you think we are better off doing the
work in the internal interface since the learning supports are typically
proprietary to the program.  If you can point me to any reference materials
it would be very helpful as well. 

 

Thanks much

 

Ron

 

*************************************************************************

Ron Stewart MS

Technology Advisor 

Association on Higher Education and Disabilities

Chair, AHEAD Instructional Materials Accessibility Group (IMAG)

 

8300 West Weller St

Yorktown, IN 47396

Mobile: 609 213-2190

Fax: 765 405-1484

 

 <mailto:ron@ahead.org> ron@ahead.org 

 <http://www.ahead.org/> http://www.ahead.org 

Remember you are making a difference in someone's life and you never know
how your time and efforts will be passed forward.  That is something to look
forward to in the morning!

 

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From jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu  Fri Jan  8 08:00:13 2010
From: jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu (Pielaet, Jon)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Document structure in LD software
In-Reply-To: <026c01ca9076$9ad288f0$d0779ad0$@org>
References: <026c01ca9076$9ad288f0$d0779ad0$@org>
Message-ID: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002832A95@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu>

 

Good Morning Everyone,

     

     It's been my experience that most reading applications (WYNN,
K1000, and alike) reduce the document structure to "simplify" the
presented document.

This has certainly been the case with WYNN in all of the different file
formats that I have tested. (other than DAISY)

 

     Reading order tends to remain intact regardless of the file format
but little else as far as structure.

 

     I do know that K3000 has a Microsoft Word toolbar, the toolbar
allows you to use all of the K3000 functions in Word so that would
presumably retain the document structure.

 

     If there is a better solution, I would be equally interested in
hearing about it.

 

Best of Luck,

 

 

Jon P. Pielaet

Program Assistant for Instructional Materials

Disability Services for Students

The University to Montana

Emma B. Lommasson Center 154

Missoula, MT 59812

 

www.umt.edu/dss/

 

406-243-2243 Voice/Text

406-243-4461 Direct Line

406-243-5330 Fax

 

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From nettiet at gmail.com  Fri Jan  8 08:09:36 2010
From: nettiet at gmail.com (Nettie Fischer)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Document structure in LD software
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References: <026c01ca9076$9ad288f0$d0779ad0$@org>
	<6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002832A95@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu>
Message-ID: <c52105b21001080809x60c0d706gbfb0e08b250433ba@mail.gmail.com>

Good morning back to all,

I have explored various programs to reproduce documents in their original
format and have found that Kurzweil does allow this option - unless I am
misunderstanding the question.  But, if and when you transfer the scanned
document into a Word document, it does lose its original format. Printing
from the Kurzweil document, maintains the original format.

Nettie's experience to date - <smile>




On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Pielaet, Jon <jon.pielaet@mso.umt.edu>wrote:

>
>
> Good Morning Everyone,
>
>
>
>      It's been my experience that most reading applications (WYNN, K1000,
> and alike) reduce the document structure to "simplify" the presented
> document.
>
> This has certainly been the case with WYNN in all of the different file
> formats that I have tested. (other than DAISY)
>
>
>
>      Reading order tends to remain intact regardless of the file format but
> little else as far as structure.
>
>
>
>      I do know that K3000 has a Microsoft Word toolbar, the toolbar allows
> you to use all of the K3000 functions in Word so that would presumably
> retain the document structure.
>
>
>
>      If there is a better solution, I would be equally interested in
> hearing about it.
>
>
>
> Best of Luck,
>
>
>
>
>
> Jon P. Pielaet
>
> Program Assistant for Instructional Materials
>
> Disability Services for Students
>
> The University to Montana
>
> Emma B. Lommasson Center 154
>
> Missoula, MT 59812
>
>
>
> www.umt.edu/dss/
>
>
>
> 406-243-2243 Voice/Text
>
> 406-243-4461 Direct Line
>
> 406-243-5330 Fax
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
> Athen@athenpro.org
> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
>
>


-- 
Nettie T. Fischer, ATP
Assistive Technology Practitioner
Nettiet, ATP Consultants
www.nettietatpconsultants.com
[916] 222-3492 Office
(916) 704-1456 Cell
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From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Document structure in LD software
In-Reply-To: <026c01ca9076$9ad288f0$d0779ad0$@org>
References: <026c01ca9076$9ad288f0$d0779ad0$@org>
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I think if you let K 3000 open the .doc file it might restructure the 
layout more than you want, but if you printed and scanned the document 
(I know, extra work, but I've had to do it), then K 3000 would do a very 
good job of retaining the original layout. A scan of the printed 
document should also eliminate text boxes that might be problematic in 
the .doc file. I am not familiar with a K 3000 toolbar that works inside 
of Word, so I cannot speak to that. - James

Ron Stewart wrote:
>
> Morning all, hope you all had a restful and rewarding holiday break!
>
> I am trying to clarify some things in my mind so any help would be 
> greatly appreciated since I no longer have access to many of the 
> ?reading? software packages or what I do have is seriously out of 
> date. I am trying to maintain as much original structure in a MS Word 
> source document on bringing it into programs such as K3000, K1000, 
> WYNN ect. Things I am particularly interested in preserving are 
> columns, reading order, descriptive text and the like.
>
> Is this even reasonably possible or do you think we are better off 
> doing the work in the internal interface since the learning supports 
> are typically proprietary to the program. If you can point me to any 
> reference materials it would be very helpful as well.
>
> Thanks much
>
> Ron
>
> *************************************************************************
>
> Ron Stewart MS
>
> Technology Advisor
>
> Association on Higher Education and Disabilities
>
> Chair, AHEAD Instructional Materials Accessibility Group (IMAG)
>
> 8300 West Weller St
>
> Yorktown, IN 47396
>
> Mobile: 609 213-2190
>
> Fax: 765 405-1484
>
> ron@ahead.org <mailto:ron@ahead.org>
>
> http://www.ahead.org <http://www.ahead.org/>
>
> */Remember you are making a difference in someone?s life/**/ /**/and 
> you never know how your time/**/ /**/and efforts will be passed 
> forward. /**/ /**/That is something to look forward to in the morning!/*
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
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> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
>   

-- 
James Bailey

Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon
1501 Kincaid St.
Eugene, OR 97403-1299
Office: 541-346-1076
jbailey@uoregon.edu



From ron at altformatsolutions.com  Fri Jan  8 09:31:51 2010
From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Math Talk and Math Pad
Message-ID: <030001ca9088$77c80670$67581350$@com>

Hi again, 

 

Is anyone using MathTalk and MathPad successfully with students in college
level math courses?  If so why, and if not why?

 

Ron

 

****************************************************************************
***

Ron Stewart

Managing Consultant

Altformat Solutions LLC

 

8300 West Weller St

Yorktown, IN 47396

Mobile: 609 213-2190

Fax: 765 405-1484

 

ron@altformatsolutions.com

www.altformatsolutions.com

 

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From edward at ngtvoice.com  Fri Jan  8 09:58:25 2010
From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Math Talk and Math Pad
In-Reply-To: <030001ca9088$77c80670$67581350$@com>
References: <030001ca9088$77c80670$67581350$@com>
Message-ID: <002401ca908c$2ea050c0$8be0f240$@com>

Ron- if you're inquiring about MathTalk from Metroplex Computing that
provides interoperability with Dragon and Scientific Notebook.it's been a
while, but I had a student with no mobility use it to complete college level
honors math at the U with it. It is not simple to learn but is competent in
use.  I'd work with NanciLu Mclelland at Metroplex directly if you have
questions.  

 

Happy new year!-ed.

 

 

Edward S. Rosenthal

President and CEO 

Next Generation Technologies, Inc.  (NGT Inc.)

20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101

Lynnwood, Wa.   98036-6334

Ph: 425-744-1100 ext. 15

Fx: 425-778-5547

Skype: ed.rosenthal7

EM: edward@ngtvoice.com

http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com

 

This document may have been dictated with speech recognition software.
Please disregard any remaining miscrecognitions.

 

 

 

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ron Stewart
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:32 AM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: [Athen] Math Talk and Math Pad

 

Hi again, 

 

Is anyone using MathTalk and MathPad successfully with students in college
level math courses?  If so why, and if not why?

 

Ron

 

****************************************************************************
***

Ron Stewart

Managing Consultant

Altformat Solutions LLC

 

8300 West Weller St

Yorktown, IN 47396

Mobile: 609 213-2190

Fax: 765 405-1484

 

ron@altformatsolutions.com

www.altformatsolutions.com

 

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From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Math Talk and Math Pad
In-Reply-To: <002401ca908c$2ea050c0$8be0f240$@com>
References: <030001ca9088$77c80670$67581350$@com>
	<002401ca908c$2ea050c0$8be0f240$@com>
Message-ID: <033901ca908c$cf9944f0$6ecbced0$@org>

Thanks Ed appreciate it.  I have had students use it in the past at well but
did not have good success with higher level math primarily due to
frustration tolerance.

 

Ron

 

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ed. Rosenthal
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: Re: [Athen] Math Talk and Math Pad

 

Ron- if you're inquiring about MathTalk from Metroplex Computing that
provides interoperability with Dragon and Scientific Notebook.it's been a
while, but I had a student with no mobility use it to complete college level
honors math at the U with it. It is not simple to learn but is competent in
use.  I'd work with NanciLu Mclelland at Metroplex directly if you have
questions.  

 

Happy new year!-ed.

 

 

Edward S. Rosenthal

President and CEO 

Next Generation Technologies, Inc.  (NGT Inc.)

20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101

Lynnwood, Wa.   98036-6334

Ph: 425-744-1100 ext. 15

Fx: 425-778-5547

Skype: ed.rosenthal7

EM: edward@ngtvoice.com

http://www.ngtvoice.com and http://www.ngtmedical.com

 

This document may have been dictated with speech recognition software.
Please disregard any remaining miscrecognitions.

 

 

 

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ron Stewart
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:32 AM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: [Athen] Math Talk and Math Pad

 

Hi again, 

 

Is anyone using MathTalk and MathPad successfully with students in college
level math courses?  If so why, and if not why?

 

Ron

 

****************************************************************************
***

Ron Stewart

Managing Consultant

Altformat Solutions LLC

 

8300 West Weller St

Yorktown, IN 47396

Mobile: 609 213-2190

Fax: 765 405-1484

 

ron@altformatsolutions.com

www.altformatsolutions.com

 

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From gdietrich at htctu.net  Fri Jan  8 10:36:58 2010
From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Math Talk and Math Pad
In-Reply-To: <030001ca9088$77c80670$67581350$@com>
References: <030001ca9088$77c80670$67581350$@com>
Message-ID: <1D9A88994A414802A48B3D9F1448B00E@htctu.fhda.edu>

One of our CCCs had a student (quad, I think) use MathTalk with Scientific
Notebook (and Dragon, of course), and it apparently worked out extremely
well. Unfortunately, I have heard of more failures than successes-although
not because of the technology! In my experience, it helps if the student is
already a proficient Dragon user. When a student tries to learn Dragon and
MathTalk and Scientific Notebook all from scratch, it requires real
dedication and extreme patience.

 

I have not used MathPad, but I believe it's just for arithmetic. Scientific
Notebook handles higher level math.

 

Good luck!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 
High Tech Center Training Unit of the 
California Community Colleges 
De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 
www.htctu.net 
408-996-6043 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

The HTCTU provides leadership, training, and support to the California
Community Colleges in using technology to promote the success of students
with disabilities.

  _____  

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ron Stewart
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:32 AM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: [Athen] Math Talk and Math Pad

 

Hi again, 

 

Is anyone using MathTalk and MathPad successfully with students in college
level math courses?  If so why, and if not why?

 

Ron

 

****************************************************************************
***

Ron Stewart

Managing Consultant

Altformat Solutions LLC

 

8300 West Weller St

Yorktown, IN 47396

Mobile: 609 213-2190

Fax: 765 405-1484

 

ron@altformatsolutions.com

www.altformatsolutions.com

 

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From nettiet at gmail.com  Fri Jan  8 10:58:49 2010
From: nettiet at gmail.com (Nettie Fischer)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Math Talk and Math Pad
In-Reply-To: <1D9A88994A414802A48B3D9F1448B00E@htctu.fhda.edu>
References: <030001ca9088$77c80670$67581350$@com>
	<1D9A88994A414802A48B3D9F1448B00E@htctu.fhda.edu>
Message-ID: <c52105b21001081058x1232658awd2bf1e947be44dd4@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, My experience with mathpad is as a basic math program for elementary
school students and/or students who are working on basic math problems,
i.e., add, subtract, divide, etc. I have not seen it used for equations
and/or formula type math problems.

Nettie

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Gaeir Dietrich <gdietrich@htctu.net> wrote:

>  One of our CCCs had a student (quad, I think) use MathTalk with
> Scientific Notebook (and Dragon, of course), and it apparently worked out
> extremely well. Unfortunately, I have heard of more failures than
> successes?although not because of the technology! In my experience, it helps
> if the student is already a proficient Dragon user. When a student tries to
> learn Dragon and MathTalk and Scientific Notebook all from scratch, it
> requires real dedication and extreme patience.
>
>
>
> I have not used MathPad, but I believe it?s just for arithmetic. Scientific
> Notebook handles higher level math.
>
>
>
> Good luck!
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich
> High Tech Center Training Unit of the
> California Community Colleges
> De Anza College, Cupertino, CA
> www.htctu.net
> 408-996-6043
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> The HTCTU provides leadership, training, and support to the California
> Community Colleges in using technology to promote the success of students
> with disabilities.
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Ron Stewart
> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2010 9:32 AM
> *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
> *Subject:* [Athen] Math Talk and Math Pad
>
>
>
> Hi again,
>
>
>
> Is anyone using MathTalk and MathPad successfully with students in college
> level math courses?  If so why, and if not why?
>
>
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
> *******************************************************************************
>
> Ron Stewart
>
> Managing Consultant
>
> Altformat Solutions LLC
>
>
>
> 8300 West Weller St
>
> Yorktown, IN 47396
>
> Mobile: 609 213-2190
>
> Fax: 765 405-1484
>
>
>
> ron@altformatsolutions.com
>
> www.altformatsolutions.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
> Athen@athenpro.org
> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
>
>


-- 
Nettie T. Fischer, ATP
Assistive Technology Practitioner
Nettiet, ATP Consultants
www.nettietatpconsultants.com
[916] 222-3492 Office
(916) 704-1456 Cell
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From cbrown at ad.nmsu.edu  Fri Jan  8 12:14:52 2010
From: cbrown at ad.nmsu.edu (Brown, Carol)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Distance Education and Assistive Technology
Message-ID: <978D21DCF54A3B49A0BEAB40E891725820E93B335C@EXCHANGE-MBX-01.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu>

A student in another state is taking a distance education course from our University and has requested speech-to-text software.  How are colleges/universities handling this type or request?
Any policies/procedures that you wish to share would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Carol Brown
Assistive Technology Specialist
Student Accessibility Services
Rm. 244, Corbett Center
MSC 4149
New Mexico State University
P.O. Box 30001
Las Cruces, New Mexico 88003-8001

(575) 646-6840  Office
(575) 646-5222  Fax
(575) 646-1918  TTY

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From ron at ahead.org  Fri Jan  8 12:21:21 2010
From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Distance Education and Assistive Technology
In-Reply-To: <978D21DCF54A3B49A0BEAB40E891725820E93B335C@EXCHANGE-MBX-01.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu>
References: <978D21DCF54A3B49A0BEAB40E891725820E93B335C@EXCHANGE-MBX-01.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu>
Message-ID: <03f101ca90a0$24bfb0f0$6e3f12d0$@org>

Afternoon,

 

They are requesting this software for their personal computer?  That would
be a personal accommodation and therefore not required to be provided.  What
kind of voice recognition software are they asking for?  The built voice
recognition software in both VISTA and Windows 7 is pretty good if they just
need simple input.

 

Ron Stewart

 

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Brown, Carol
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:15 PM
To: athen@athenpro.org
Subject: [Athen] Distance Education and Assistive Technology

 

A student in another state is taking a distance education course from our
University and has requested speech-to-text software.  How are
colleges/universities handling this type or request?

Any policies/procedures that you wish to share would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks. 

 

Carol Brown
Assistive Technology Specialist
Student Accessibility Services
Rm. 244, Corbett Center
MSC 4149
New Mexico State University
P.O. Box 30001
Las Cruces, New Mexico 88003-8001
 
(575) 646-6840  Office
(575) 646-5222  Fax
(575) 646-1918  TTY

 

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From jbailey at uoregon.edu  Fri Jan  8 12:40:31 2010
From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Distance Education and Assistive Technology
In-Reply-To: <978D21DCF54A3B49A0BEAB40E891725820E93B335C@EXCHANGE-MBX-01.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu>
References: <978D21DCF54A3B49A0BEAB40E891725820E93B335C@EXCHANGE-MBX-01.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu>
Message-ID: <4B47983F.6010106@uoregon.edu>

I have advised my school to make access to a fully functional computer a 
condition for *all* students to participate in distance ed classes. - James

Brown, Carol wrote:
>
> A student in another state is taking a distance education course from 
> our University and has requested speech-to-text software.  How are 
> colleges/universities handling this type or request?
>
> Any policies/procedures that you wish to share would be greatly 
> appreciated.
>
>  
>
> Thanks.
>
>  
>
> Carol Brown
> Assistive Technology Specialist
> Student Accessibility Services
> Rm. 244, Corbett Center
> MSC 4149
> New Mexico State University
> P.O. Box 30001
> Las Cruces, New Mexico 88003-8001
>  
> (575) 646-6840  Office
> (575) 646-5222  Fax
> (575) 646-1918  TTY
>
>  
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
> Athen@athenpro.org
> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
>   

-- 
James Bailey

Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon
1501 Kincaid St.
Eugene, OR 97403-1299
Office: 541-346-1076
jbailey@uoregon.edu



From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com  Fri Jan  8 12:45:55 2010
From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Distance Education and Assistive Technology
In-Reply-To: <978D21DCF54A3B49A0BEAB40E891725820E93B335C@EXCHANGE-MBX-01.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu>
References: <978D21DCF54A3B49A0BEAB40E891725820E93B335C@EXCHANGE-MBX-01.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu>
Message-ID: <6e84aedd1001081245t19f4f35aoffa7aaa30783a017@mail.gmail.com>

We won't provide software for students to use at home.  I will set up
our students with any free or low cost application I can find but we
don't extend our licenses to home use.  We look at that as being the
students responsibility.  We try to make our online courses accessible
so what ever programs they do use will work with it.  That is what we
are required to do.  I'd like to be able to provide the software for
students but it's not what my budget tells me I can do.
If the student is using Vista or 7 there are very good speech
recognition programs that come built into windows.  If they are using
XP they can get Dragon standard for around $50 because speech
recognition isn't very good on XP's version.  Someone else could speak
for Mac because I'm not familiar with speech recognition programs for
it.
Jeff
Cleveland State

On 1/8/10, Brown, Carol <cbrown@ad.nmsu.edu> wrote:
> A student in another state is taking a distance education course from our
> University and has requested speech-to-text software.  How are
> colleges/universities handling this type or request?
> Any policies/procedures that you wish to share would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Carol Brown
> Assistive Technology Specialist
> Student Accessibility Services
> Rm. 244, Corbett Center
> MSC 4149
> New Mexico State University
> P.O. Box 30001
> Las Cruces, New Mexico 88003-8001
>
> (575) 646-6840  Office
> (575) 646-5222  Fax
> (575) 646-1918  TTY
>
>


From skeegan at stanford.edu  Fri Jan  8 13:09:36 2010
From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] California Web Accessibility Conference 2010!
Message-ID: <4B479F10.4020100@stanford.edu>

For those who may be interested in Web accessibility, usability, and 
universal design principles, please see the event announcement below. 
They have a number of excellent speakers presenting on HTML 5, ARIA, 
Javascript accessibility, and accessibility implementations.

Take care,
Sean

********

Registration is OPEN for the California Web Accessibility Conference!

CalWAC 5 - California Web Accessibility Conference
February 8 - 10, 2010
Santa Clara, CA

http://knowbility.org/calwac/?content=home

The 5th Annual California Web Accessibility Conference is moving to
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hands-on accessibility workshop sessions produced by Knowbility - the
nation's leading trainer of IT accessibility policy and practice.

This year's CalWAC event includes presentations and hands-on lab
sessions by acclaimed accessibility experts, usability professionals and
technology leaders including Derek Featherstone, Shawn Henry, Molly
Holzschlag, Whitney Quesenbery, Sharron Rush and many others.  New to
CalWAC this year is a Usability Track, focusing on the skills, tools,
and knowledge to create websites that build upon accessibility and
usability principles.

Register Now!
- $425 for CalWAC registration (2 days of workshops)
- $235 for one-day registration
- Group Rate (register 6 people or more for a 30% discount per person!)

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For more information, please contact:
Laurie C. Payne,
laurie@knowbility.org
512.305.0310

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From gdietrich at htctu.net  Fri Jan  8 15:27:52 2010
From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Distance Education and Assistive Technology
In-Reply-To: <03f101ca90a0$24bfb0f0$6e3f12d0$@org>
References: <978D21DCF54A3B49A0BEAB40E891725820E93B335C@EXCHANGE-MBX-01.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu>
	<03f101ca90a0$24bfb0f0$6e3f12d0$@org>
Message-ID: <D2B7F87F6342416D8715A20C8ACCF13A@htctu.fhda.edu>

Providing software on a student's personal computer has never been a
standard policy in the California community colleges. A few campuses "loan"
some software, but that practice is limited to software that "times out" or
can otherwise be controlled by the campus.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 
High Tech Center Training Unit of the 
California Community Colleges 
De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 
www.htctu.net 
408-996-6043 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

The HTCTU provides leadership, training, and support to the California
Community Colleges in using technology to promote the success of students
with disabilities.

  _____  

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ron Stewart
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 12:21 PM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: Re: [Athen] Distance Education and Assistive Technology

 

Afternoon,

 

They are requesting this software for their personal computer?  That would
be a personal accommodation and therefore not required to be provided.  What
kind of voice recognition software are they asking for?  The built voice
recognition software in both VISTA and Windows 7 is pretty good if they just
need simple input.

 

Ron Stewart

 

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Brown, Carol
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:15 PM
To: athen@athenpro.org
Subject: [Athen] Distance Education and Assistive Technology

 

A student in another state is taking a distance education course from our
University and has requested speech-to-text software.  How are
colleges/universities handling this type or request?

Any policies/procedures that you wish to share would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks. 

 

Carol Brown
Assistive Technology Specialist
Student Accessibility Services
Rm. 244, Corbett Center
MSC 4149
New Mexico State University
P.O. Box 30001
Las Cruces, New Mexico 88003-8001
 
(575) 646-6840  Office
(575) 646-5222  Fax
(575) 646-1918  TTY

 

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From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU  Sat Jan  9 03:07:18 2010
From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Distance Education and Assistive Technology
In-Reply-To: <978D21DCF54A3B49A0BEAB40E891725820E93B335C@EXCHANGE-MBX-01.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu>
References: <978D21DCF54A3B49A0BEAB40E891725820E93B335C@EXCHANGE-MBX-01.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu>
Message-ID: <DF4DB7B08672054297817DC8A554F2EA05484F499E@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL>

For somebody to take an online course from us, they have to have regular access to a computer.  If they have a disability and do not have appropriate assistive technology to access that computer, then they do not have regular access to a computer.  Access technology on a personal computer is the student's responsibility, not the institution's.

If it is a computer that the institution is providing, then you have a different responsibility.

HTH.

________________________________________
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Brown, Carol [cbrown@ad.nmsu.edu]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:14 PM
To: athen@athenpro.org
Subject: [Athen] Distance Education and Assistive Technology

A student in another state is taking a distance education course from our University and has requested speech-to-text software.  How are colleges/universities handling this type or request?
Any policies/procedures that you wish to share would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Carol Brown
Assistive Technology Specialist
Student Accessibility Services
Rm. 244, Corbett Center
MSC 4149
New Mexico State University
P.O. Box 30001
Las Cruces, New Mexico 88003-8001

(575) 646-6840  Office
(575) 646-5222  Fax
(575) 646-1918  TTY



From tschwanke at wisc.edu  Tue Jan 12 08:50:56 2010
From: tschwanke at wisc.edu (Todd Schwanke)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Caption file creation with Naturally Speaking or Mac Speech
	Dictate?
In-Reply-To: <033901ca908c$cf9944f0$6ecbced0$@org>
References: <030001ca9088$77c80670$67581350$@com>
	<002401ca908c$2ea050c0$8be0f240$@com>
	<033901ca908c$cf9944f0$6ecbced0$@org>
Message-ID: <20100112105056691.00000003612@AT_Specialist>

Good morning:

Is anyone aware of a software program or add-on that will allow a user of Naturally Speaking or MacSpeech Dictate to create a caption file (or at least a transcript with some sort of timing information) simultaneously as they dictate & make a recording of their audio/video?  This would be in place of creating a transcript with the speech recognition and then doing post-dictation syncing to the audio/video.

Note: In asking this question I am putting the accuracy issue and need for editing aside given that speech recognition is not 100% accurate.

There are a number of program/services out there that do this, but I'm not aware of any that work directly with end user versions of Naturally Speaking or MacSpeech Dictate.  Here are some of the others that I'm aware of
* I believe it is SoundBooth & Premier as part of Adobe CS4 that do this with their built-in speech recognition, though with much lower accuracy on the transcription
* There are a number of commercial services that use speech recognition to transcribe and then automated processes to sync and create the caption file
* Google just added computer based recognition/transcription & syncing.

Thanks,
Todd
UW-Madison



From norm.coombs at gmail.com  Tue Jan 12 09:53:02 2010
From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] First announcement of 4-part Webinar series on Social Media
Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20100112094245.022b0678@pop.gmail.com>

EASI is sponsoring 4 Webinars on social media and accessibility for people 
with various disabilities.  Webinar 1 is on Second Life, Webinar 2 is on 
Twitter, Webinar 3 is on Facebook and Webinar 4 is on YouTube.  These will 
be weekly starting on Monday January 25 and will be at 9 Pacific, 10 
Mountain, 11 Central and noon Eastern.  The fee for the series is $195, but 
it is free for EASI Annual Webinar Members.

The series will touch on several aspects related to the overall topic, but 
two of them include the accessibility issues caused by their interfaces and 
another will be ways that these social media provide important 
opportunities for people with disabilities to enrich their lives.


You can read more and register online at
http://easi.cc/clinic.htm

There will be a later announcement as more details are finalized.
Norm Coombs

  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Once you choose hope, anything's possible.  Christopher Reeve

Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com
CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information
phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone)
****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP:
http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm



From skeegan at stanford.edu  Tue Jan 12 10:56:18 2010
From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Caption file creation with Naturally Speaking or Mac
 Speech	Dictate?
In-Reply-To: <20100112105056691.00000003612@AT_Specialist>
References: <030001ca9088$77c80670$67581350$@com>	<002401ca908c$2ea050c0$8be0f240$@com>	<033901ca908c$cf9944f0$6ecbced0$@org>
	<20100112105056691.00000003612@AT_Specialist>
Message-ID: <4B4CC5D2.1000604@stanford.edu>

Hi Todd,

 > Is anyone aware of a software program or add-on
 > that will allow a user of Naturally Speaking or
 > MacSpeech Dictate to create a caption file (or at
 > least a transcript with some sort of timing
 > information) simultaneously as they dictate &
 > make a recording of their audio/video?

I am not aware of anything that is focused on the end-user market (I had 
looked around earlier this year and could not find any products).  There 
are some options from a "package"-type approach as in IBM's ViaScribe 
(http://www.liberatedlearning.com/technology/index.shtml), SyNote in the 
University of Southampton
(http://www.synote.ecs.soton.ac.uk/overview/index.php) or DocSoft's AV 
appliance (http://www.docsoft.com/Products/AV/), but I have not seen 
anything that would be more focused at the end-user specifically.

If I run across anything, I will post to the list...

Take care,
Sean
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From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU  Tue Jan 12 13:52:40 2010
From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] good site to demonstrate universal design for the web
Message-ID: <20100112145240.AOG59583@riddler.int.colorado.edu>

Hello All:

Related to the class I'm teaching on universal design for 
digital media, I'm looking for web sites that demonstrate 
universal design and its benefits along with sites that 
exemplify the disadvantages of poor design, or non-universal or 
accessible design. Thanks in advance.

-Howard


From normajean.brand at hccs.edu  Wed Jan 13 10:11:35 2010
From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (normajean.brand)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] good site to demonstrate universal design for the web
In-Reply-To: <20100112145240.AOG59583@riddler.int.colorado.edu>
References: <20100112145240.AOG59583@riddler.int.colorado.edu>
Message-ID: <801E7AFBD02DE54BA988F6520E408E1D01358FA6@ADMINMAIL1.ad.hccs.edu>

Looking for same! 

Regards,
Norma Jean

-----------------------------------------------
NJ Brand, ATAC
Houston Community College-Northwest
ADA Technician
Technology and Instructional Computing
Room RC13
1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N.
Houston TX 77043
VM/Office: 713.718.5604                    
FAX: 713.718.5430 
Email: normajean.brand@hccs.edu
http://northwest.hccs.edu 
SkypeMe: nj.brand 


-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Howard Kramer
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:53 PM
To: athen@athenpro.org
Subject: [Athen] good site to demonstrate universal design for the web

Hello All:

Related to the class I'm teaching on universal design for 
digital media, I'm looking for web sites that demonstrate 
universal design and its benefits along with sites that 
exemplify the disadvantages of poor design, or non-universal or 
accessible design. Thanks in advance.

-Howard

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From pratikp1 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 13 11:51:07 2010
From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Justice Department reaches three agreements with
	universities regarding electronic book readers
Message-ID: <003c01ca9489$c00342b0$4009c810$@com>

 

            

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CRT

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 13, 2010
(202) 514-2007

WWW.JUSTICE.GOV <http://www.justice.gov/>
TDD (202) 514-1888

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT REACHES THREE SETTLEMENTS UNDER THE AMERICANS WITH
DISABILITIES ACT REGARDING THE USE OF ELECTRONIC BOOK READERS

        WASHINGTON -  The Justice Department today announced separate
agreements under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) with Case Western
Reserve University in Cleveland, Pace University in New York City  and Reed
College in Portland, Ore., regarding the use in a classroom setting of the
electronic book reader, the Kindle DX, a hand-held technological device that
simulates the experience of reading a book.

        Under the agreements reached today, the universities generally will
not purchase, recommend or promote use of the Kindle DX, or any other
dedicated electronic book reader, unless the devices are fully accessible to
students who are blind and have low vision.  The universities agree that if
they use dedicated electronic book readers, they will ensure that students
with vision disabilities are able to access and acquire the same materials
and information, engage in the same interactions, and enjoy the same
services as sighted students with substantially equivalent ease of use.  The
agreements that the Justice Department reached with these universities
extend beyond the Kindle DX to any dedicated electronic reading device. 

 

        These agreements follow the Jan. 11, 2010 agreement between the
Justice Department, Arizona State University, the National Federation of the
Blind and the American Council of the Blind concerning the use of electronic
book readers.

        "Advancing technology is systematically changing the way
universities approach education, but we must be sure that emerging
technologies offer individuals with disabilities the same opportunities as
other students," said Assistant Attorney General Thomas E. Perez.  "These
agreements underscore the importance of full and equal educational
opportunities for everyone."

        A handful of universities participated in a pilot project in
cooperation with Amazon.com Inc. to test the viability of the Kindle DX in a
classroom setting.  The terms of the Justice Department's agreement with
each university become effective at the end of the pilot projects.

        The current model of  the Kindle DX has the capability to read texts
aloud, so that the materials would be accessible to blind individuals, but
the device does not include a similar text-to-speech function for the menu
and navigational controls.  Without access to the menus, students who are
blind have no way to know which book they have selected or how to access the
Kindle DX Web browser or its other functions.  The technological "know how"
to make navigational controls or menu selections accessible is available.

        Other universities, such as Syracuse University and the University
of Wisconsin at Madison, also examined the utility of the Kindle DX as a
teaching device and decided that they would not use the Kindle DX until it
is accessible to blind individuals.  

        In passing the ADA and the recent ADA Amendments Act, Congress found
that individuals with disabilities were uniquely disadvantaged in critical
areas, including education.  It is a core priority of the Civil Rights
Division to strengthen and expand the educational opportunities for
individuals with disabilities.

        The ADA prohibits discrimination by public accommodations on the
basis of disability, including discrimination in private post-secondary
institutions.  Those interested in finding out more about these agreements
or seeking information about and how to comply with the ADA can call the
Justice Department's toll-free ADA Information Line at (800) 514-0301 or
(800) 514-0383 (TDD), or access its ADA Web site at http://www.ada.gov
<http://www.ada.gov/>  .

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From ron at ahead.org  Wed Jan 13 11:56:28 2010
From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Justice Department reaches three agreements with
	universities regarding electronic book readers
In-Reply-To: <003c01ca9489$c00342b0$4009c810$@com>
References: <003c01ca9489$c00342b0$4009c810$@com>
Message-ID: <14048604-AD82-4901-B939-A8E5F72A0E6D@ahead.org>

Now this is more like it!

Ron Stewart
8300 W. Weller St
Yorktown, IN 47396

(609) 213-2190


On Jan 13, 2010, at 14:51, "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> FOR IMMEDIATE  
> RELEASE  
>     
>     
>     
>     
>     
>     
>     
>                                                                       
> CRT
>
> WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 13,  
> 2010                                                               (202) 514-2007
>
> WWW.JUSTICE.GOV  
>     
>     
>                                                                       
> TDD (202) 514-1888
>
> JUSTICE DEPARTMENT REACHES THREE SETTLEMENTS UNDER THE AMERICANS  
> WITH DISABILITIES ACT REGARDING THE USE OF ELECTRONIC BOOK READERS
>
>         WASHINGTON ?  The Justice Department today announced separat 
> e agreements under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) with Ca 
> se Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Pace University in New Y 
> ork City  and Reed College in Portland, Ore., regarding the use in a 
>  classroom setting of the electronic book reader, the Kindle DX, a h 
> and-held technological device that simulates the experience of readi 
> ng a book.
>
>         Under the agreements reached today, the universities  
> generally will not purchase, recommend or promote use of the Kindle  
> DX, or any other dedicated electronic book reader, unless the  
> devices are fully accessible to students who are blind and have low  
> vision.  The universities agree that if they use dedicated  
> electronic book readers, they will ensure that students with vision  
> disabilities are able to access and acquire the same materials and  
> information, engage in the same interactions, and enjoy the same  
> services as sighted students with substantially equivalent ease of  
> use.  The agreements that the Justice Department reached with these  
> universities extend beyond the Kindle DX to any dedicated electronic  
> reading device.
>
>
>
>         These agreements follow the Jan. 11, 2010 agreement between  
> the Justice Department, Arizona State University, the National  
> Federation of the Blind and the American Council of the Blind  
> concerning the use of electronic book readers.
>
>         ?Advancing technology is systematically changing the way uni 
> versities approach education, but we must be sure that emerging tech 
> nologies offer individuals with disabilities the same opportunities  
> as other students,? said Assistant Attorney General Thomas E. Perez. 
>   ?These agreements underscore the importance of full and equal educ 
> ational opportunities for everyone.?
>
>         A handful of universities participated in a pilot project in  
> cooperation with Amazon.com Inc. to test the viability of the Kindle  
> DX in a classroom setting.  The terms of the Justice Department?s ag 
> reement with each university become effective at the end of the pilo 
> t projects.
>
>         The current model of  the Kindle DX has the capability to  
> read texts aloud, so that the materials would be accessible to blind  
> individuals, but the device does not include a similar text-to- 
> speech function for the menu and navigational controls.  Without  
> access to the menus, students who are blind have no way to know  
> which book they have selected or how to access the Kindle DX Web  
> browser or its other functions.  The technological ?know how? to  
> make navigational controls or menu selections accessible is available.
>
>         Other universities, such as Syracuse University and the  
> University of Wisconsin at Madison, also examined the utility of the  
> Kindle DX as a teaching device and decided that they would not use  
> the Kindle DX until it is accessible to blind individuals.
>
>         In passing the ADA and the recent ADA Amendments Act,  
> Congress found that individuals with disabilities were uniquely  
> disadvantaged in critical areas, including education.  It is a core  
> priority of the Civil Rights Division to strengthen and expand the  
> educational opportunities for individuals with disabilities.
>
>         The ADA prohibits discrimination by public accommodations on  
> the basis of disability, including discrimination in private post- 
> secondary institutions.  Those interested in finding out more about  
> these agreements or seeking information about and how to comply with  
> the ADA can call the Justice Department?s toll-free ADA Information  
> Line at (800) 514-0301 or (800) 514-0383 (TDD), or access its ADA We 
> b site at http://www.ada.gov .
>
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>
> _______________________________________________
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> Athen@athenpro.org
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From info at karlencommunications.com  Thu Jan 14 07:01:10 2010
From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Captioned video on textbook publisher web sites
Message-ID: <000001ca952a$687abe00$39703a00$@com>

A colleague asked if publisher web sites with video are required to have
captioned video for students. I don't know. The site they are using is:

http://www.pearsoned.ca/highered/mymarketinglab/index.html

 

Does anyone have any information about the captioning of textbook videos?

 

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From ron at ahead.org  Thu Jan 14 07:06:56 2010
From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Captioned video on textbook publisher web sites
In-Reply-To: <000001ca952a$687abe00$39703a00$@com>
References: <000001ca952a$687abe00$39703a00$@com>
Message-ID: <02b701ca952b$36dc9ac0$a495d040$@org>

I am not aware of any such requirement.  There are a couple of states that
have caption purchasing requirements but don't remember where those laws
place the burden.

 

Ron Stewart

 

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Karlen Communications
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:01 AM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: [Athen] Captioned video on textbook publisher web sites

 

A colleague asked if publisher web sites with video are required to have
captioned video for students. I don't know. The site they are using is:

http://www.pearsoned.ca/highered/mymarketinglab/index.html

 

Does anyone have any information about the captioning of textbook videos?

 

Cheers, Karen

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From jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu  Thu Jan 14 07:25:57 2010
From: jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu (Pielaet, Jon)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Captioned video on textbook publisher web sites
In-Reply-To: <02b701ca952b$36dc9ac0$a495d040$@org>
References: <000001ca952a$687abe00$39703a00$@com>
	<02b701ca952b$36dc9ac0$a495d040$@org>
Message-ID: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A00028331FC@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu>

State by state differences aside, it's my understanding that publishers
can provide whatever content they want. (with or without captions) It
would be up to the institution using the content to ensure its
accessibility. In other words: Schools and Universities should make
captions their own pre-requisite for purchasing content.

 

Additionally, the Pearson link provided is in Canada so I have no idea
what rules apply in that country.

 

 

Jon P. Pielaet

Program Assistant for Instructional Materials

Disability Services for Students

Emma B. Lommasson 154

The University of Montana

Missoula, MT 59812

 

www.umt.edu/dss/

 

406-243-2243 Voice/Text

406-243-4461 Direct Line

406-243-5330 Fax

 

 

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ron Stewart
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:07 AM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: Re: [Athen] Captioned video on textbook publisher web sites

 

I am not aware of any such requirement.  There are a couple of states
that have caption purchasing requirements but don't remember where those
laws place the burden.

 

Ron Stewart

 

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Karlen Communications
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:01 AM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: [Athen] Captioned video on textbook publisher web sites

 

A colleague asked if publisher web sites with video are required to have
captioned video for students. I don't know. The site they are using is:

http://www.pearsoned.ca/highered/mymarketinglab/index.html

 

Does anyone have any information about the captioning of textbook
videos?

 

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From SKelmer at stlcc.edu  Thu Jan 14 07:25:24 2010
From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Canon DR5080 driver
Message-ID: <BEF714744CA6314395DCABAE5848AC2303958F2F@EVS01.stlcc.local>

Trying to reinstall my Canon DR5080 on a new machine, and the driver I
downloaded from Canon isn't working.  Can't find my original CD since
they moved my office.  Anyone happen to have the CD from theirs they
could copy and send me, or email me the files?  Would greatly appreciate
it!

 

Susan Kelmer

Adaptive Technology Specialist/

Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms

St. Louis Community College - Meramec

314-984-7951

 

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From mcroll at CAHS.Colostate.edu  Thu Jan 14 14:18:13 2010
From: mcroll at CAHS.Colostate.edu (Roll,Marla)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] BLIO - free e-reader software
In-Reply-To: <033901ca908c$cf9944f0$6ecbced0$@org>
References: <030001ca9088$77c80670$67581350$@com>
	<002401ca908c$2ea050c0$8be0f240$@com>
	<033901ca908c$cf9944f0$6ecbced0$@org>
Message-ID: <95D1023BE1E90D43AD435E6F88562BCC3842267320@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU>

Hello all,

Our library is moving toward the idea of E Books at students requests.  They are not happy with any of the common e book readers on the market due to their tendency to be proprietary in nature.  They are very intrigued, as is our AT Center, in a new product called Blio.  Ray Kurzweil is the brains behind the product which makes it even more intriguing to  my office.

If any of you know about it or can give/ share thoughts, I would very much like to hear from you.  On the surface, it looks very promising but I need and want to know more about it.


Thanks for any help or thoughts you can share....

Marla Roll

___________________________________
Marla C. Roll, MS, OTR
Director, Assistive Technology Resource Center
Assistant Professor, Occupational Therapy
304 Occupational Therapy Building
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO   80523
970-491-2016
mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu




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From accessible.text at gmail.com  Fri Jan 15 05:26:05 2010
From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] BLIO - free e-reader software
In-Reply-To: <95D1023BE1E90D43AD435E6F88562BCC3842267320@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <030001ca9088$77c80670$67581350$@com>
	<002401ca908c$2ea050c0$8be0f240$@com>
	<033901ca908c$cf9944f0$6ecbced0$@org>
	<95D1023BE1E90D43AD435E6F88562BCC3842267320@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU>
Message-ID: <9edf8161001150526y52b43a86oe27f37fb9618f8ee@mail.gmail.com>

Marla,

I have seen a demo of the Blio software and it does indeed look
promising. But what is more interesting is the business relationship
with Baker & Taylor (a large book distributor). My understanding is
that Baker & Taylor will convert publishers PDFs to work with the new
reader for free, and they will only make money from sales of the book
in Blio format.

This is important because it gives publishers an incentive to make
their books available in Blio format (which I believe is Microsoft's
XPS), and Baker & Taylor will be pushing the format so they can make
their investment back. DAISY has been around for over 10 years but
there are still very few DAISY format books available commercially,
whereas Blio should have thousands of titles available right away.

But, like with any new tech product, don't go by the press release.
Download a demo when it becomes available and try it for yourself.

Bob

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Roll,Marla <mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> Our library is moving toward the idea of E Books at students requests.? They
> are not happy with any of the common e book readers on the market due to
> their tendency to be proprietary in nature.? They are very intrigued, as is
> our AT Center, in a new product called Blio.? Ray Kurzweil is the brains
> behind the product which makes it even more intriguing to? my office.
>
>
>
> If any of you know about it or can give/ share thoughts, I would very much
> like to hear from you.? On the surface, it looks very promising but I need
> and want to know more about it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for any help or thoughts you can share?.
>
>
>
> Marla Roll
>
>
>
> ___________________________________
>
> Marla C. Roll, MS, OTR
>
> Director, Assistive Technology Resource Center
>
> Assistant Professor, Occupational Therapy
>
> 304 Occupational Therapy Building
>
> Colorado State University
>
> Fort Collins, CO?? 80523
>
> 970-491-2016
>
> mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
> Athen@athenpro.org
> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
>
>


From petri.1 at osu.edu  Fri Jan 15 08:30:53 2010
From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Ken Petri)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] BLIO - free e-reader software
In-Reply-To: <9edf8161001150526y52b43a86oe27f37fb9618f8ee@mail.gmail.com>
References: <030001ca9088$77c80670$67581350$@com>
	<002401ca908c$2ea050c0$8be0f240$@com> 
	<033901ca908c$cf9944f0$6ecbced0$@org>
	<95D1023BE1E90D43AD435E6F88562BCC3842267320@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU>
	<9edf8161001150526y52b43a86oe27f37fb9618f8ee@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d16d6a2d1001150830i7551a4e1ne5d56e5c5d644316@mail.gmail.com>

I will remain skeptical until I see and play around with the software, but
their web site just launched and it promises a lot:

http://www.blioreader.com/

Random Questions:
Can I convert my current ebooks from epub to blio?
When will I see a reader for Android?
Can I convert from blio to other formats easily?
Why no mention of Mac OS X compatibility, when there is talk of iPhone,
iPod, and tablet?
Okay, it uses SAPI voices for TTS and it highlights. Terrific! But do I have
keyboard-only and screen reader access to bookmarking and notetaking? (If
so, game over.)
It presents in page-based format, but can I toggle to reflowable format so
that text enlargement and contrast enhancements will be available?
What happens to DAISY and ePub if they actually deliver on what they are
promising with the blio format/platform?
If the format is (based-on) MS XPS, will I be able to save from Word
straight into Blio format?
What is the DRM model?
Will Kurzweil/KNFB have Blio at CSUN?
Is all of this way too good to be true?

Best,
ken
-------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Petri
 Program Director
 OSU Web Accessibility Center
 102D Pomerene Hall
 1760 Neil Avenue
 Columbus, Ohio  43210
 Phone: (614) 292-1760
 Fax: (614) 292-4190
 mailto:petri.1@osu.edu
-------------------------------------------------------


On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Robert Martinengo <
accessible.text@gmail.com> wrote:

> Marla,
>
> I have seen a demo of the Blio software and it does indeed look
> promising. But what is more interesting is the business relationship
> with Baker & Taylor (a large book distributor). My understanding is
> that Baker & Taylor will convert publishers PDFs to work with the new
> reader for free, and they will only make money from sales of the book
> in Blio format.
>
> This is important because it gives publishers an incentive to make
> their books available in Blio format (which I believe is Microsoft's
> XPS), and Baker & Taylor will be pushing the format so they can make
> their investment back. DAISY has been around for over 10 years but
> there are still very few DAISY format books available commercially,
> whereas Blio should have thousands of titles available right away.
>
> But, like with any new tech product, don't go by the press release.
> Download a demo when it becomes available and try it for yourself.
>
> Bob
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Roll,Marla <mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu>
> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> >
> >
> > Our library is moving toward the idea of E Books at students requests.
> They
> > are not happy with any of the common e book readers on the market due to
> > their tendency to be proprietary in nature.  They are very intrigued, as
> is
> > our AT Center, in a new product called Blio.  Ray Kurzweil is the brains
> > behind the product which makes it even more intriguing to  my office.
> >
> >
> >
> > If any of you know about it or can give/ share thoughts, I would very
> much
> > like to hear from you.  On the surface, it looks very promising but I
> need
> > and want to know more about it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for any help or thoughts you can share?.
> >
> >
> >
> > Marla Roll
> >
> >
> >
> > ___________________________________
> >
> > Marla C. Roll, MS, OTR
> >
> > Director, Assistive Technology Resource Center
> >
> > Assistant Professor, Occupational Therapy
> >
> > 304 Occupational Therapy Building
> >
> > Colorado State University
> >
> > Fort Collins, CO   80523
> >
> > 970-491-2016
> >
> > mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Athen mailing list
> > Athen@athenpro.org
> > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
> Athen@athenpro.org
> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
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From hadi at illinois.edu  Fri Jan 15 09:07:29 2010
From: hadi at illinois.edu (Hadi Rangin)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Sloan-C workshop: A How-To Guide for Creating Accessible
	Content
Message-ID: <DB9712138BA74B4592709E3A529F7B7A@ad.uiuc.edu>

[Sorry for the cross-posting]

 

Web Accessibility for Online Learning: A How-To Guide for Creating
Accessible Content

Discover how principles of universal design can help you create course
content that can be accessed and used by anyone, including people with
disabilities.

By the end of this workshop, participants will have a good understanding of
the Universal Design Principles for Online Learning, potential
accessibility/usability issues that need to be considered in course design,
and how to create more accessible/usable course content.

This workshop is offered within 10 consecutive days and requires
approximately one hour of reading per day. 3 small individual assignments
will build on one another to produce a final project submission that will
showcase each participant' understanding of how to apply universal design
principles to communication, teaching, and basic course design, including
basic web authoring, styling, and multimedia considerations. Daily focused
group discussion will help participants gain a better understanding of key
design problems, ideas, and potential solutions. Participants are strongly
encouraged to share their ideas, questions, and answers in the workshop
discussions and will be automatically enrolled in the discussion list upon
registration.Additionally, this workshop will host 3 live, synchronous
sessions (on days 1, 7, and 10) via an accessible web conferencing
application called Talking Communities. 

Workshop Goals 

This workshop will enable participants to: 

. Develop an understanding of Universal Design Principles for Online
Learning 

. Develop an understanding of potential accessibility/usability issues that
need to be considered in course design 

. Create more accessible/usable course content 

For more information visit: http://www.sloanconsortium.org/node/2699

Note that this workshop is offered via Sloan Consortium and eligible for
Sloan-C Certificate Program.

Thanks,

Hadi

 

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From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:45 2018
Subject: [Athen] Settlement letter in DOJ case re Kindle/e-readers
Message-ID: <006701ca961f$065e33f0$131a9bd0$@com>

Dear Colleagues,

 

Below please find the letter sent by the Department of Justice to Reed
College, settling the complaints filed by the NFB and the ACB regarding the
Kindle pilot program at that college.  I am given to understand that the
settlement letters sent to Case Western and Pace are similar in nature.  The
language in the press release and the settlement letter is quite similar and
very strong.

 

Warm regards,

 

Pratik

 

 

 

 

 U.S. Department of Justice

Civil Rights Division

Disability Rights Section - NYA

950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW.

Washington. DC 20530.

 

December 18, 2009

 

 

Edward J. Reeves, Esq.

Stoel Rives LLP

900 SW Fifth Ave, Suite 2600

Portland, OR 97204-1268

 

Re: Letter of Resolution, DJ. No. 202-61-117

      Reed College

Dear Mr. Reeves:

 

 

As you know, this matter began with complaints filed by the National
Federation of the

Blind (NFB) and the American Council of the Blind (ACB) with the Department
of Justice, on

behalf of the organizations and their members who are current and
prospective college students,

alleging that Reed College has violated title III of the Americans with
Disabilities Act of 1990

("ADA"), 42 U.S.C. ? 12182, and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of
1973, 29 U.S.C. ?

947(a), by participating in a pilot program using the Kindle DX, an
innovative, hand-held

electronic book reader that is not accessible to students with visual
impairments, in a classroom

setting. According to the complaints, Reed College is participating in a
pilot program with six

other universities under an agreement with Amazon.com, Inc., that began in
the fall 2009

semester. The object of this pilot program is to test the utility of the
Kindle DX in a classroom

setting.

 

The Department of Justice is responsible for the enforcement and
implementation of titles

II and III of the ADA. The Department decided to investigate this matter
because the Kindle DX

is inaccessible to an entire class of individuals with disabilities -
individuals with visual

impairments. According to its product descriptions, the Kindle DX provides
several benefits that

make it a potentially superior tool to a standard textbook, including the
ability to download all

textbooks instantaneously, the ability to carry all textbooks en a hand-held
device that weighs

just over a pound, the ability to search words and concepts instantly on the
device's web browser,

while retaining 'all the characteristics of a standard text book, such as
annotating, highlighting,

and taking notes. Under title III, blind students must be provided with
"full and equal access" to

all of the goods and services of the college, 28 C.F.R. ? 36.201(a); must be
provided with an

equivalent opportunity to participate in and benefit from its goods and
services, 28 C.F.R. ?

36.202(a), (b); and, must not be provided different or separate
accommodations unless doing so

is necessary to ensure access to goods and services that is equally as
effective as that provided to

others, 28 C.F.R. 36.202(c).

 

The Department of Justice remains concerned with the college's future use,
if any, of the

Kindle DX or any other electronic book reader that is not fully accessible
to individuals with

visual impairments after the conclusion of this pilot program. The
Department of Justice and

Reed College have decided that it is in their interest to resolve this
matter amicably. In

consideration of the agreement by Reed College to undertake the actions set
forth below, the

United States will close its investigation of this matter. "

 

Reed College agrees to the following actions:

 

1. The College will not purchase a Kindle DX or any other dedicated

electronic book reader for use by students in its classes, curricula, or
other

programs unless or until such electronic book reader is fully accessible to

individuals with visual impairments or Reed provides reasonable

accommodation or modification for this type of technology to individuals

needing such accommodation or modification due to visual impairments.

 

2. The College will not require, recommend, or promote use of the Kindle

DX or any other dedicated electronic book reader by students in classes,

curricula, or other programs unless or until the device is fully accessible
to

students with visual impairments or it provides reasonable accommodation

or modification for this type of technology to its students with visual

impairments.

 

3. The phrase "other dedicated electronic book reader" means any wireless,

hand-held, dedicated electronic book reader that has been or will in the

future be produced or offered by Amazon.com or any other corporation,

such as but not limited" to the Barnes and Noble nook, the Sony PRS-600,

PRS-700, PRS 505 or upcoming Sony Daily Edition, and others.

 

4. An electronic book reader will be considered fully accessible to

individuals with visual impairments if all uses of the device that are

available to individuals without disabilities are available to individuals

with visual impairments in a manner, which ensures that its use the college

setting is equally as effective for individuals with visual impairments as
it

is for others.

 

5. "Reed College will commit a policy reflecting the terms of this agreement

to writing within 30 days of the date of the last signature below.

 

6. Reed College agrees that its commitments in paragraphs 1-5, herein, will

take effect on the date following the last day of the pilot project with

Amazon.com, Inc., which will terminate no later than the conclusion of the

spring 2010 semester.

 

 

7. As used in this agreement, reasonable accommodation or modification

shall be determined on a case-by-case basis, which takes into consideration

the needs of the student with a visual impairment. In addition, Reed will

be informed by the factors listed in subparagraphs A. 1-3 and B. in

determining the accommodation or modification.

 

A. Students with visual impairments should be able to --

1) Access and acquire the same information,

2) Engage in the same interactions, and

3) Enjoy the same services as sighted students.

 

B. Students with visual impairments should enjoy ease of use that is

    Substantially equivalent to that provided to sighted students.

 

This agreement does not constitute a finding by the United States that Reed
is in full

Compliance with the ADA, nor an admission by Reed College of fault or
noncompliance with the

ADA.

 

The decision to close our file in this matter does not affect the rights of
private

Individuals or of the complainants to enforce their rights under the ADA
against Reed College.

As indicated in paragraph 6, above, this agreement also has no effect on
Reed College's current 

pilot program testing the Kindle DX. This agreement also is not intended to
preclude other pilot

programs or product testing designed to evaluate the features, including
accessibility features, of

new technologies so long as reasonable accommodation or modification is
provided.

Please countersign and return a copy of this letter to us, indicating your
agreement with

the representations and terms set forth herein. Once we have received your
countersigned copy,

we will consider this matter resolved. We will take no further action on
this matter unless we

become aware of new information suggesting that Reed is not complying with
its obligations

under the ADA or this agreement.

 

We appreciate your cooperation. If you have questions or concerns regarding
this

agreement, please do not hesitate to contact the Department.

 

Sincerely,

 

THOMAS E. PEREZ

Assistant Attorney General

Civil Rights Division

 

SAMUEL R. BAGENSTOS

Deputy Assistant Attorney General

JOHN L. WODATCH

Chief, Disability Rights Section

 

ALLISON NICHOL

Deputy Chief

K.ATE NICHOLSON

Attorney

Disability Rights Section

Civil Rights Division

U.S. Department of Justice

Tel: (202) 514-8301

Fax: (202) 305-9775

 

Countersigned:

By:

EDWARD J. REEVES, ESQ.

Counsel for Reed College

Stoel Rives LLP

900 SW Fifth Ave, Suite 2600

Portland, OR 97204-1268

Tel: (503) 294-9260

Fax: (503) 220-2480

 

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From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] EASI Webinar 4-part series on social media!! don't miss it!
Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20100117202502.022c11c8@pop.gmail.com>

Four-part Webinar Series on Social Media
Social continues to grow and expand. While there are some accessibility 
problems especially

for a screen reader, these media are becoming more accessible, and many 
people with every

disability you can imagine are becoming active and even avid supporters. 
Educators are

exploring its uses as well. This series is both timely and important.

  Mon. Jan 25, Mon. Feb. 1, 8 and 15
Noon Eastern, 11 AM Central, 10 AM Mountain and 9 AM Pacific
These 4 Webinars will cover Second Life, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube
(The fee for the series is $195, but the series is free to all EASI Annual 
Webinar Members.)

Jan 25: Second Life and Opportunities of a 3D Platform
Presenters:
Dr Denise Wood (AKA Denlee Wobbit in Second Life), Researcher and Senior 
Lecturer,

University of South Australia
Denise is the project leader of two nationally funded research grants as 
well as several

university funded projects focusing on the use of innovative technologies 
in teaching and

learning, and inclusive design. She is currently heading a research team on 
a project funded by

the Australian Teaching and Learning Council, which involves the design and 
development on

an open source, accessible 3D virtual learning platform .

Charles Morris (AKA Charles Mountain in Second Life), Vice-President of 
Virtual Helping

Hands and University of South Australia Developer
Charles Mountain is the avatar of Charles Morris. He is a professional 
freelance software

developer with over 20 years of experience. Charles Morris is also the lead 
developer for

VHH and its various projects. Charles is the developer for the UniSA led 
Accessible Open

Source 3D Virtual Learning Platform, which is funded by the Australian 
Learning and

Teaching Council and is led by Denise Wood from the University of South 
Australia.

Janyth Ussery (AKA Saxet Uralia in Second Life) Director of Web Education 
at Texas State

Technical College and Executive Director of Virtual Helping Hands
Janyth is the Director of Web Education at Texas State Technical College 
and has 14-years

experience in higher education. With a specific focus in distance-education 
opportunities,

exploring new frontiers in education is what has led her into Second Life 
over two years ago

Janyth has often said, "While we make create, learn, work and play, the 
social opportunities

offered for those that are disabled in real life may be Second Life's 
finest hour."

Feb. 1: Twitter, Its Uses and Its Accessibility Issues
Presenter: Dennis Lembr?e Web site professional specializing in web 
standards, usability and

accessibility
Dennis has re-built the popular Twitter web site with web accessibility and 
web standards.

Accessible Twitter is the recipient of the 2009 Access IT @web2.0 Award! 
Once a person

has a Twitter account, he or she can go to (accessible.twitter.com) and log 
in. This provides

to the standard Twitter account but using a highly accessible interface.

Feb. 8 Facebook, Why Is it Popular and How Accessible Is It?
Presenters: Betsy Burgess and Cherie Miller from Bookshare and a special 
guest from the

Facebook staff.
Bookshare is using both Facebook and Twitter to enrich its interactions 
with its members.

Social media provides a community of readers where they can share what 
books they have

loved and share their struggles with reading with disabilities.

Feb. 15: YouTube, all You Wanted To See and More
Presenters: Marisol Miranda and Norman Coombs from EASI
Streaming videos on the Internet are hugely popular running the gambit from 
silly to serious.

Video provides significant emotional and persuasive punch whether for good 
or ill.
This presentation is announcing the unveiling of a special channel called, 
YouAbility. Its aims

to provide educational and informative videos about disabilities. It will 
provide training

modules demonstrating tips for increasing IT accessibility, and it will be 
a place to showcase

new accessibility tools as they emerge.
You can register by credit card, check or by PO from the description on the 
Webinar page:
http://easi.cc/clinic.htm
The series is $195 but free for EASI Annual Webinar members.


  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Once you choose hope, anything's possible.  Christopher Reeve

Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com
CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information
phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone)
****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP:
http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm



From norm.coombs at gmail.com  Mon Jan 18 08:29:58 2010
From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Android Phone free Webinar Jan. 20
Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20100118082733.023dcbd0@pop.gmail.com>

                 Please forgive duplications but I think this is worth sharing.

Webinar: Accessible Android Smartphones: Jan. 20 at 2 PM Eastern
Presenter: Steve Jacobs, CEO, Apps4Android and President, IDEAL Group, Inc.
Apps4Android http://apps4android.org is an IDEAL Group subsidiary 
corporation dedicated to developing free/low-cost, high-quality, Android 
applications that enhance the quality-of-life, independence, educatability 
and employability of individuals with disabilities.
This Webinar is open to the public and is free, but you need to register in 
advance so we can send you login instructions.  Register at the EASI 
Webinar page.
http://easi.cc/clinic.htm

In November, Apps4Android became the world's largest user of Google's 
Text-to-Speech Library. Google developer's use Apps4Android's Speaking Pad 
application to test their new voices before releasing them to market. Since 
its inception on January 17, 2009, Apps4Android has built a customer-base 
of over 400,000 users in 30+ countries.

Apps4Android's Assistive Technology Applications include:
1. iAugcomm(tm): $4.99 IDEAL Group's Augmentative Communication application 
is designed to enhance the communications abilities of people who are 
unable to speak. iAugComm provides a symbol-based method of communication 
that uses the Text-To-Speech (TTS) library for Android.
2. Ask Eindroid(tm): $0.99 A speech recognition, text-to-speech-based 
applications that enables its users to ask and get answers to questions 
about stocks, sports, the news, math, airline flights, restaurants and much 
more with no more effort from you than simply speaking to it. Speaking 
Pad(tm): Free
Speaking Pad: Free
A talking notepad for Android. This notepad will speak what you type. This 
application uses the TTS (Text-To-Speech) library for Android.
Better Voices For Cupcake(tm): $0.99 Provides higher quality voices for 
user of Android smartphones running version 1.5 of Android (Cupcake). This 
makes all of a users talking applications sound better in English (US & 
UK), Italian, German, French, and Spanish.
SMSpeaker and Talking caller ID Bundle: $0.99 Automatically announces the 
number calling you, the name of the caller (if entered into your address 
book) as well as SMS messages. Many features.
The IDEAL Android Accessibility Wizard(tm): Free The objective of IDEAL's 
Android Accessibility Wizard project is to eliminate the complexity of 
working through the variables, described on 
http://accessibility-android.info to enable end-users and retail store 
personnel to quickly, easily and successfully activate and install 
eyes-free and screenreading capabilities on any Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile 
and possibly AT&T (not yet decided) Android smartphones manufactured by 
Samsung, HTC, Motorola and others.

Register at the EASI Webinar page.
http://easi.cc/clinic.htm






From Lissner.2 at osu.edu  Mon Jan 18 08:38:22 2010
From: Lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, Scott)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Do Publisher Websites Have to Be Accessible?
In-Reply-To: <000001ca952a$687abe00$39703a00$@com>
References: <000001ca952a$687abe00$39703a00$@com>
Message-ID: <80FCE4F8AFF74D4EAF5AE29906BFC6B5031DD09A@Yukon.admin.ohio-state.edu>

I have rephrased Karen's question.  Captioning video would be a subset
of the a more general requirement to make the web pages accessible.

 

The very short, pragmatically true at this moment and somewhat
misleading answer is - "no".  

 

A succinct and hopefully useful answer is  that this is an evolving area
of law.  Currently it depends on how two critical  dimensions.  For most
of this list the first and most important question will be who is
providing access (in the common language use of the word rather than the
disability/assistive technology sense of the word, which I think of as
blue access to match the parking signs)

 

If an institution is requiring or offering the use of the website for
students enrolled in a particular program or course; there is no
obligation on the publisher but there is one on the institution with the
license for its students.  As argued in the recent Arizona/Kindle case
before it was settled Under Title II of the ADA and Section 504 of the
Rehabilitation Act, programs and the services and benefits available to
program participants have to be accessible directly or by alternatives
that are substantially equivalent in their timely availability and the
time and effort required of the individual with a disability.  Section
504 goes on to specify that an federal fund recipient cannot
discriminate by contract, assigning the recipient (our institutions)
not the third party the primary obligation.  A complaint about
accessibility of a third party web based service would likely be resolve
along the same lines as the kindle complaints
<http://www.ada.gov/settlemt.htm> .    

 

 

If on the other hand we are talking about a site that is simply
available to anyone and not offered by, required or significantly woven
into course expectations by the institution, program or instructor then
the obligation for accessibility will depend somewhat on what circuit it
is in.  Some Federal Circuits have seen phone systems and the internet
as "places of public accommodation" others have not. If an entity does
not provide services in a place of public accommodation, is part of a
state or government program, or is a federal fund recipient than there
is not coverage by the ADA or 504.  In considering this dimension the
Target Settlement <http://www.nfbtargetlawsuit.com/>  would be
informative.  There is also a presentation I did in 2006 for the CIC
Accessibility Group that would be useful as well  Legal Aspects of E &
IT Accessibility
<http://cita.disability.uiuc.edu/collaborate/cic/2006/ada_files/index.ht
ml>  

 

L. Scott Lissner, 
University ADA Coordinator 
Associate, John Glenn School of Public Affairs 
Lecturer, Knowlton School of Architecture, Moritz College of Law &
Disability Studies 
Office Of The Provost, The Ohio State University 
1849 Cannon Drive 
Columbus, OH 43210-1266 

(614) 292-6207(v); (614) 688-8605(tty) 
(614) 688-3665(fax); Http://ada.osu.edu <http://ada.osu.edu/>  

Please consider the environment before printing this E-mail 

 

 

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Karlen Communications
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:01 AM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: [Athen] Captioned video on textbook publisher web sites

 

A colleague asked if publisher web sites with video are required to have
captioned video for students. I don't know. The site they are using is:

http://www.pearsoned.ca/highered/mymarketinglab/index.html

 

Does anyone have any information about the captioning of textbook
videos?

 

Cheers, Karen

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From B.G.Whitehouse at lboro.ac.uk  Tue Jan 19 03:41:47 2010
From: B.G.Whitehouse at lboro.ac.uk (B.G.Whitehouse@lboro.ac.uk)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Android Phone free Webinar Jan. 20
In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20100118082733.023dcbd0@pop.gmail.com>
References: <6.0.3.0.2.20100118082733.023dcbd0@pop.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <web-7489111@twum.lboro.ac.uk>

When will the webinar take place UK time? Guy. On Mon, 18 
Jan 2010 08:29:58 -0800
  Prof Norm Coombs <norm.coombs@gmail.com> wrote:
>                 Please forgive duplications but I think 
>this is worth sharing.
> 
> Webinar: Accessible Android Smartphones: Jan. 20 at 2 PM 
>Eastern
> Presenter: Steve Jacobs, CEO, Apps4Android and 
>President, IDEAL Group, Inc.
> Apps4Android http://apps4android.org is an IDEAL Group 
>subsidiary corporation dedicated to developing 
>free/low-cost, high-quality, Android applications that 
>enhance the quality-of-life, independence, educatability 
>and employability of individuals with disabilities.
> This Webinar is open to the public and is free, but you 
>need to register in advance so we can send you login 
>instructions.  Register at the EASI Webinar page.
> http://easi.cc/clinic.htm
> 
> In November, Apps4Android became the world's largest 
>user of Google's Text-to-Speech Library. Google 
>developer's use Apps4Android's Speaking Pad application 
>to test their new voices before releasing them to market. 
>Since its inception on January 17, 2009, Apps4Android has 
>built a customer-base of over 400,000 users in 30+ 
>countries.
> 
> Apps4Android's Assistive Technology Applications 
>include:
> 1. iAugcomm(tm): $4.99 IDEAL Group's Augmentative 
>Communication application is designed to enhance the 
>communications abilities of people who are unable to 
>speak. iAugComm provides a symbol-based method of 
>communication that uses the Text-To-Speech (TTS) library 
>for Android.
> 2. Ask Eindroid(tm): $0.99 A speech recognition, 
>text-to-speech-based applications that enables its users 
>to ask and get answers to questions about stocks, sports, 
>the news, math, airline flights, restaurants and much 
>more with no more effort from you than simply speaking to 
>it. Speaking Pad(tm): Free
> Speaking Pad: Free
> A talking notepad for Android. This notepad will speak 
>what you type. This application uses the TTS 
>(Text-To-Speech) library for Android.
> Better Voices For Cupcake(tm): $0.99 Provides higher 
>quality voices for user of Android smartphones running 
>version 1.5 of Android (Cupcake). This makes all of a 
>users talking applications sound better in English (US & 
>UK), Italian, German, French, and Spanish.
> SMSpeaker and Talking caller ID Bundle: $0.99 
>Automatically announces the number calling you, the name 
>of the caller (if entered into your address book) as well 
>as SMS messages. Many features.
> The IDEAL Android Accessibility Wizard(tm): Free The 
>objective of IDEAL's Android Accessibility Wizard project 
>is to eliminate the complexity of working through the 
>variables, described on http://accessibility-android.info 
>to enable end-users and retail store personnel to 
>quickly, easily and successfully activate and install 
>eyes-free and screenreading capabilities on any Verizon, 
>Sprint, T-Mobile and possibly AT&T (not yet decided) 
>Android smartphones manufactured by Samsung, HTC, 
>Motorola and others.
> 
> Register at the EASI Webinar page.
> http://easi.cc/clinic.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
> Athen@athenpro.org
> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org



From pratikp1 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 19 03:42:56 2010
From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Android Phone free Webinar Jan. 20
In-Reply-To: <web-7489111@twum.lboro.ac.uk>
References: <6.0.3.0.2.20100118082733.023dcbd0@pop.gmail.com>
	<web-7489111@twum.lboro.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <008e01ca98fc$8bb86ae0$a32940a0$@com>

It's 7:00 PM UK time.  

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of B.G.Whitehouse@lboro.ac.uk
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:42 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Android Phone free Webinar Jan. 20

When will the webinar take place UK time? Guy. On Mon, 18 
Jan 2010 08:29:58 -0800
  Prof Norm Coombs <norm.coombs@gmail.com> wrote:
>                 Please forgive duplications but I think 
>this is worth sharing.
> 
> Webinar: Accessible Android Smartphones: Jan. 20 at 2 PM 
>Eastern
> Presenter: Steve Jacobs, CEO, Apps4Android and 
>President, IDEAL Group, Inc.
> Apps4Android http://apps4android.org is an IDEAL Group 
>subsidiary corporation dedicated to developing 
>free/low-cost, high-quality, Android applications that 
>enhance the quality-of-life, independence, educatability 
>and employability of individuals with disabilities.
> This Webinar is open to the public and is free, but you 
>need to register in advance so we can send you login 
>instructions.  Register at the EASI Webinar page.
> http://easi.cc/clinic.htm
> 
> In November, Apps4Android became the world's largest 
>user of Google's Text-to-Speech Library. Google 
>developer's use Apps4Android's Speaking Pad application 
>to test their new voices before releasing them to market. 
>Since its inception on January 17, 2009, Apps4Android has 
>built a customer-base of over 400,000 users in 30+ 
>countries.
> 
> Apps4Android's Assistive Technology Applications 
>include:
> 1. iAugcomm(tm): $4.99 IDEAL Group's Augmentative 
>Communication application is designed to enhance the 
>communications abilities of people who are unable to 
>speak. iAugComm provides a symbol-based method of 
>communication that uses the Text-To-Speech (TTS) library 
>for Android.
> 2. Ask Eindroid(tm): $0.99 A speech recognition, 
>text-to-speech-based applications that enables its users 
>to ask and get answers to questions about stocks, sports, 
>the news, math, airline flights, restaurants and much 
>more with no more effort from you than simply speaking to 
>it. Speaking Pad(tm): Free
> Speaking Pad: Free
> A talking notepad for Android. This notepad will speak 
>what you type. This application uses the TTS 
>(Text-To-Speech) library for Android.
> Better Voices For Cupcake(tm): $0.99 Provides higher 
>quality voices for user of Android smartphones running 
>version 1.5 of Android (Cupcake). This makes all of a 
>users talking applications sound better in English (US & 
>UK), Italian, German, French, and Spanish.
> SMSpeaker and Talking caller ID Bundle: $0.99 
>Automatically announces the number calling you, the name 
>of the caller (if entered into your address book) as well 
>as SMS messages. Many features.
> The IDEAL Android Accessibility Wizard(tm): Free The 
>objective of IDEAL's Android Accessibility Wizard project 
>is to eliminate the complexity of working through the 
>variables, described on http://accessibility-android.info 
>to enable end-users and retail store personnel to 
>quickly, easily and successfully activate and install 
>eyes-free and screenreading capabilities on any Verizon, 
>Sprint, T-Mobile and possibly AT&T (not yet decided) 
>Android smartphones manufactured by Samsung, HTC, 
>Motorola and others.
> 
> Register at the EASI Webinar page.
> http://easi.cc/clinic.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
> Athen@athenpro.org
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From Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu  Tue Jan 19 07:08:44 2010
From: Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu (Kenneth Elkind)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Cantasia: close capturing capabilities
Message-ID: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00241FB71@ebe1.umassb.net>

I had a professor who is using Cantasia by TechSmith for one of her
courses.  Does anybody have any experience in creating close capturing
in the creation of online videos using Cantasia? 

 

 

 

Kenneth Elkind

Adaptive Technology Specialist

University of Massachusetts - Boston

IT-ED Tech Operations

Healey Library /UL/ 032

617-287-5243

Kenneth.Elkind@umb.edu

 

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From SKelmer at stlcc.edu  Tue Jan 19 07:24:47 2010
From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Cantasia: close capturing capabilities
In-Reply-To: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00241FB71@ebe1.umassb.net>
References: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00241FB71@ebe1.umassb.net>
Message-ID: <BEF714744CA6314395DCABAE5848AC23039FD901@EVS01.stlcc.local>

It is "Camtasia," and I'm not sure about the close-captioning but their
tech support is really good, so you might want to call them.

 

Susan Kelmer

Adaptive Technology Specialist/

Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms

St. Louis Community College - Meramec

314-984-7951

 

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Kenneth Elkind
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:09 AM
To: athen@athenpro.org
Subject: [Athen] Cantasia: close capturing capabilities

 

I had a professor who is using Cantasia by TechSmith for one of her
courses.  Does anybody have any experience in creating close capturing
in the creation of online videos using Cantasia? 

 

 

 

Kenneth Elkind

Adaptive Technology Specialist

University of Massachusetts - Boston

IT-ED Tech Operations

Healey Library /UL/ 032

617-287-5243

Kenneth.Elkind@umb.edu

 

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From petri.1 at osu.edu  Tue Jan 19 07:28:46 2010
From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Ken Petri)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Cantasia: close capturing capabilities
In-Reply-To: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00241FB71@ebe1.umassb.net>
References: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00241FB71@ebe1.umassb.net>
Message-ID: <d16d6a2d1001190728g28c20a4dpb17d71a9de6f941c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Kenneth,

Camtasia recordings are easy to caption. The process: Dump your transcript
in the captioning window. Play back the recording. Select the chunk of
caption as you hear it played back. Export the video.

Timings are set and a captions are added to the bottom of the output. If I
remember correctly, past versions captions could not be turned off. This may
have changed and now they may be truly "closed" captions, but it is worth
testing to see if this is the case.

Note that the Camtasia embedded player is not fully screen reader
accessible---better than it used to be but not all the way there. Also,
there is no way to import timed text or export it from Camtasia. All timing
and set up must be done within the Camtasia environment, you cannot edit
captions after the fact without re-exporting the movie.

Best,
ken
-------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Petri
 Program Director
 OSU Web Accessibility Center
 102D Pomerene Hall
 1760 Neil Avenue
 Columbus, Ohio  43210
 Phone: (614) 292-1760
 Fax: (614) 292-4190
 mailto:petri.1@osu.edu
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On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Kenneth Elkind <Kenneth.Elkind@umb.edu>wrote:

>  I had a professor who is using Cantasia by TechSmith for one of her
> courses.  Does anybody have any experience in creating close capturing in
> the creation of online videos using Cantasia?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kenneth Elkind
>
> Adaptive Technology Specialist
>
> University of Massachusetts - Boston
>
> IT-ED Tech Operations
>
> Healey Library /UL/ 032
>
> 617-287-5243
>
> Kenneth.Elkind@umb.edu
>
>
>
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From skeegan at stanford.edu  Tue Jan 19 12:23:34 2010
From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Cantasia: close capturing capabilities
In-Reply-To: <1221006686.400181263932247653.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <1749857989.402881263932613947.JavaMail.root@zm04.stanford.edu>

> Does anybody have any experience in creating close capturing 
> in the creation of online videos using Cantasia?

For information about captioning with Camtasia, you can check out:
http://www.techsmith.com/learn/camtasia/6/edit/captions.asp

To actually do the captions, you will need to copy/paste the transcript into the "text region" on the left side of the interface.  The text content is usually broken into three line captions (you can set the number of characters per line).  My suggestion is to try and keep the caption lines to two or less.  While Camtasia does allow for three lines, this can begin to take up a lot of the screen real-estate and restrict the actual viewing of the information.  Just use a blank line as the "third" caption line when formatting the content in the "text region".  For captions with only one line of text, you will then need to have two blank lines.

This can get a bit messy if you are trying to manage the formatting while also performing the time-stamping, so I would suggest doing the formatting in the "text region" first and then doing the time-stamping.

Also - captioning in Camtasia is done within the Camtasia application.  At this time (unless something suddenly changed) you are not able to just import a "caption file" with all the time-stamping completed.  You have to do it all from within the captioning application.

Take care,
Sean

Sean Keegan
Associate Director, Assistive Technology
Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University


From asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca  Tue Jan 19 16:57:22 2010
From: asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca (Jennison Mark Asuncion)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] fyi podcast on social media accessibility
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1001191956170.10534@alcor.concordia.ca>

Hello,

For those of you who have an interest in social media and accessibility
for people with disabilities, I thought I would share a podcast from EASI
(Equal Access to Software and Information) in where I am interviewed on a
variety of topics, including talking about the major accessibility issues
impacting users with disabilities who want to access social media tools.
It can be found at http://easi.cc/podcasts/itnews/jennison01.mp3

Feel free to e-mail me if you have any questions on the content covered.

Jennison

Jennison Mark Asuncion
Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network www.adaptech.org
LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/jennison


From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU  Wed Jan 20 17:16:45 2010
From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Who's attending ATIA in Orlando
Message-ID: <20100120181645.AOL79952@riddler.int.colorado.edu>

Hello All:

Is anyone speaking at or attending ATIA next week. If so, we 
could use volunteers to help us staff the ATHEN/Accessing 
Higher Ground booth in the exhibit hall.

Also, if you're presenting, let us know the details and we'll 
create a flyer listing all the ATHEN presentations. 

For those able and willing to help at the booth, the exhibit 
hall hours are:
Thursday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 6:00 pm.
Friday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 5:30 pm.
Saturday: 9:00 am - 12 noon. 

If you could donate an hour or two to help out at the booth, 
that would be a great help.

Sean - can you post the ATHEN sessions on the ATHEN web site. 
I'll send you the details on the sessions that me and Dan are 
doing shortly.

Regards,
Howard


From zpaz at ldrfa.org  Wed Jan 20 17:55:51 2010
From: zpaz at ldrfa.org (Zahavit Paz)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] ATIA in Orlando/ATHEN booth
Message-ID: <51849c9a1001201755jf0c56c8w1db73033084cc6f5@mail.gmail.com>

Howard hi,
I may be able to  attend not sure yet
If do you can count on my help.

will keep you posted



On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Howard Kramer
<Howard.Kramer@colorado.edu>wrote:

> Hello All:
>
> Is anyone speaking at or attending ATIA next week. If so, we
> could use volunteers to help us staff the ATHEN/Accessing
> Higher Ground booth in the exhibit hall.
>
> Also, if you're presenting, let us know the details and we'll
> create a flyer listing all the ATHEN presentations.
>
> For those able and willing to help at the booth, the exhibit
> hall hours are:
> Thursday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 6:00 pm.
> Friday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 5:30 pm.
> Saturday: 9:00 am - 12 noon.
>
> If you could donate an hour or two to help out at the booth,
> that would be a great help.
>
> Sean - can you post the ATHEN sessions on the ATHEN web site.
> I'll send you the details on the sessions that me and Dan are
> doing shortly.
>
> Regards,
> Howard
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
> Athen@athenpro.org
> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
>



-- 
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31 East  32nd Street Suite 607
New York, NY 10016
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917.405.4837 Cell
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Zpaz@ldrfa.org
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From hkramer.atsol at gmail.com  Wed Jan 20 18:03:59 2010
From: hkramer.atsol at gmail.com (Howard Kramer)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] ATIA in Orlando/ATHEN booth
In-Reply-To: <51849c9a1001201755jf0c56c8w1db73033084cc6f5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51849c9a1001201755jf0c56c8w1db73033084cc6f5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <baa6b6681001201803y11035a4dsc8bf808e1ede36ca@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Zahavit.

-Howard

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Zahavit Paz <zpaz@ldrfa.org> wrote:

> Howard hi,
> I may be able to  attend not sure yet
> If do you can count on my help.
>
> will keep you posted
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Howard Kramer <Howard.Kramer@colorado.edu
> > wrote:
>
>> Hello All:
>>
>> Is anyone speaking at or attending ATIA next week. If so, we
>> could use volunteers to help us staff the ATHEN/Accessing
>> Higher Ground booth in the exhibit hall.
>>
>> Also, if you're presenting, let us know the details and we'll
>> create a flyer listing all the ATHEN presentations.
>>
>> For those able and willing to help at the booth, the exhibit
>> hall hours are:
>> Thursday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 6:00 pm.
>> Friday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 5:30 pm.
>> Saturday: 9:00 am - 12 noon.
>>
>> If you could donate an hour or two to help out at the booth,
>> that would be a great help.
>>
>> Sean - can you post the ATHEN sessions on the ATHEN web site.
>> I'll send you the details on the sessions that me and Dan are
>> doing shortly.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Howard
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Athen mailing list
>> Athen@athenpro.org
>> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Love&Light
> LD Resources Foundation
> Zahavit Paz
> Founder, Chairperson
> 31 East  32nd Street Suite 607
> New York, NY 10016
> 646.701.0000 Office
> 917.405.4837 Cell
> 212.444.1061 Fax
> Zpaz@ldrfa.org
> www.ldrfa.org
>
> visit our blog:
> http://ldrfa.blogspot.com
> http://twitter.com/ldrfa
> Online donation:
> http://www.ldrfa.org/index.php?pID=31
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From B.G.Whitehouse at lboro.ac.uk  Thu Jan 21 01:43:41 2010
From: B.G.Whitehouse at lboro.ac.uk (B.G.Whitehouse@lboro.ac.uk)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Bleo ebook reader's website
Message-ID: <ba3ca5b9bd0b1942a3fad7649181ce50@staff-mail.lboro.ac.uk>

I've tried searching for the Bleo ebook reader's website and all I'm getting is odd looking web addresses beginning with searcher.com. Is there a website yet?

Guy





From accessible.text at gmail.com  Thu Jan 21 05:03:09 2010
From: accessible.text at gmail.com (Robert Martinengo)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Bleo ebook reader's website
In-Reply-To: <ba3ca5b9bd0b1942a3fad7649181ce50@staff-mail.lboro.ac.uk>
References: <ba3ca5b9bd0b1942a3fad7649181ce50@staff-mail.lboro.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <9edf8161001210503k6adbb1fel467549d9539a776a@mail.gmail.com>

http://blioreader.com/

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:43 AM, B.G.Whitehouse@lboro.ac.uk
<B.G.Whitehouse@lboro.ac.uk> wrote:
> I've tried searching for the Bleo ebook reader's website and all I'm getting is odd looking web addresses beginning with searcher.com. Is there a website yet?
>
> Guy
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>


From mcroll at CAHS.Colostate.edu  Thu Jan 21 08:34:37 2010
From: mcroll at CAHS.Colostate.edu (Roll,Marla)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Bleo ebook reader's website
In-Reply-To: <ba3ca5b9bd0b1942a3fad7649181ce50@staff-mail.lboro.ac.uk>
References: <ba3ca5b9bd0b1942a3fad7649181ce50@staff-mail.lboro.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <95D1023BE1E90D43AD435E6F88562BCC3842267356@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU>

Our library is seriously considering it's use....

Check it out at

http://blioreader.com/


Marla Roll


___________________________________
Marla C. Roll, MS, OTR
Director, Assistive Technology Resource Center
Assistant Professor, Occupational Therapy
304 Occupational Therapy Building
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO   80523
970-491-2016
mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu




-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of B.G.Whitehouse@lboro.ac.uk
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:44 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] Bleo ebook reader's website

I've tried searching for the Bleo ebook reader's website and all I'm getting is odd looking web addresses beginning with searcher.com. Is there a website yet?

Guy




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From mcroll at CAHS.Colostate.edu  Thu Jan 21 09:42:41 2010
From: mcroll at CAHS.Colostate.edu (Roll,Marla)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Who's attending ATIA in Orlando
In-Reply-To: <20100120181645.AOL79952@riddler.int.colorado.edu>
References: <20100120181645.AOL79952@riddler.int.colorado.edu>
Message-ID: <95D1023BE1E90D43AD435E6F88562BCC384226735B@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU>

Hey there Howard and others,

I am attending and would be happy to put in some hours at the booth - would prefer the Thursday or Friday morning time slots...

Marla

___________________________________
Marla C. Roll, MS, OTR
Director, Assistive Technology Resource Center
Assistant Professor, Occupational Therapy
304 Occupational Therapy Building
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO   80523
970-491-2016
mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu




-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:17 PM
To: athen@athenpro.org
Subject: [Athen] Who's attending ATIA in Orlando

Hello All:

Is anyone speaking at or attending ATIA next week. If so, we 
could use volunteers to help us staff the ATHEN/Accessing 
Higher Ground booth in the exhibit hall.

Also, if you're presenting, let us know the details and we'll 
create a flyer listing all the ATHEN presentations. 

For those able and willing to help at the booth, the exhibit 
hall hours are:
Thursday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 6:00 pm.
Friday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 5:30 pm.
Saturday: 9:00 am - 12 noon. 

If you could donate an hour or two to help out at the booth, 
that would be a great help.

Sean - can you post the ATHEN sessions on the ATHEN web site. 
I'll send you the details on the sessions that me and Dan are 
doing shortly.

Regards,
Howard

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From dann at digilifemedia.biz  Thu Jan 21 06:10:13 2010
From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] JAWS and RTF
In-Reply-To: <948477351.257.1264082628748.JavaMail.root@mail>
Message-ID: <61634995.259.1264083012977.JavaMail.root@mail>

Quick question folks --- 

Not withstanding an issue with the verbosity controls - is anyone familiar with JAWS having problems pausing at then end of lines BUT properly pausing and stoping at grammatical marks? This is in reference to JAWS reading RTF files. 

I have a client who has a student who is claiming that the RTF files we provided them are not working with JAWS. Specifically that JAWS is not pausing at the end of lines but IS pausing correctly at grammatical marks. Yet the student claims their verbosity settings are set properly. The files were converted from hardcopy using Abbyy Fine Reader and quality controlled using MS Word 2003 and saved to RTF. 

Any suggestions or insight would be greatly appreciated. 

Cheers --- Dann  

+++++++++++++++++++++++
Daniel Berkowitz
Digilife Media, LLC
809 E. Bloomingdale Avenue
# 261
Brandon, FL 33511-8113

phone:  978-914-4601
fax:        813-689-4328 [please include Digilife Media #261 on cover sheet]
e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz
web: www.digilifemedia.biz


From dann at digilifemedia.biz  Thu Jan 21 06:19:55 2010
From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Who's attending ATIA in Orlando
In-Reply-To: <1403646359.272.1264083520656.JavaMail.root@mail>
Message-ID: <500458420.274.1264083595020.JavaMail.root@mail>

I will not be attending the conference per se but will be visiting the vendor area and am available for booth duty. My hours are flexible for the days of the conference. I hope to see many of you over a beer and a bite in the evenings as I am now living a short drive from Orlando. 

--- Dann 

+++++++++++++++++++++++
Daniel Berkowitz
Digilife Media, LLC
809 E. Bloomingdale Avenue
# 261
Brandon, FL 33511-8113

phone:  978-914-4601
fax:    813-689-4328 [please include Digilife Media #261 on cover sheet]
e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz
web: www.digilifemedia.biz


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marla Roll" <mcroll@CAHS.Colostate.edu>
To: athen@athenpro.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:42:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Athen] Who's attending ATIA in Orlando

Hey there Howard and others,

I am attending and would be happy to put in some hours at the booth - would prefer the Thursday or Friday morning time slots...

Marla

___________________________________
Marla C. Roll, MS, OTR
Director, Assistive Technology Resource Center
Assistant Professor, Occupational Therapy
304 Occupational Therapy Building
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO   80523
970-491-2016
mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu




-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:17 PM
To: athen@athenpro.org
Subject: [Athen] Who's attending ATIA in Orlando

Hello All:

Is anyone speaking at or attending ATIA next week. If so, we 
could use volunteers to help us staff the ATHEN/Accessing 
Higher Ground booth in the exhibit hall.

Also, if you're presenting, let us know the details and we'll 
create a flyer listing all the ATHEN presentations. 

For those able and willing to help at the booth, the exhibit 
hall hours are:
Thursday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 6:00 pm.
Friday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 5:30 pm.
Saturday: 9:00 am - 12 noon. 

If you could donate an hour or two to help out at the booth, 
that would be a great help.

Sean - can you post the ATHEN sessions on the ATHEN web site. 
I'll send you the details on the sessions that me and Dan are 
doing shortly.

Regards,
Howard

_______________________________________________
Athen mailing list
Athen@athenpro.org
http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org

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From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU  Thu Jan 21 10:28:01 2010
From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] JAWS and RTF
In-Reply-To: <61634995.259.1264083012977.JavaMail.root@mail>
References: <948477351.257.1264082628748.JavaMail.root@mail>
	<61634995.259.1264083012977.JavaMail.root@mail>
Message-ID: <DF4DB7B08672054297817DC8A554F2EA05825BBAB6@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL>

Dan,

I'm sorry, but I'm not clear on the issue.  Is the student saying that JAWS is not pausing at the end of each line, but they want it to?  Or, are they saying JAWS is pausing at the end of each line rather than at the end of the sentence?

I would think they would want the pause at the end of the sentence rather than at the end of the line.  If so, they need to set their "Read All" setting to "Sentence".  If they have done this, and they are still getting pauses at the end of lines rather than at the end of sentences, there may be some coding that needs to be looked.
If you'd like to send me a copy of the Word and RTF files, I can try doing some comparisons for you and see what I find.

Robert Lee Beach
Assistive Technology Specialist
Kansas City Kansas Community College
7250 State Avenue
Kansas City, KS  66112
Phone: 913-288-7671
Fax: 913-288-7678
E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:10 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] JAWS and RTF

Quick question folks --- 

Not withstanding an issue with the verbosity controls - is anyone familiar with JAWS having problems pausing at then end of lines BUT properly pausing and stoping at grammatical marks? This is in reference to JAWS reading RTF files. 

I have a client who has a student who is claiming that the RTF files we provided them are not working with JAWS. Specifically that JAWS is not pausing at the end of lines but IS pausing correctly at grammatical marks. Yet the student claims their verbosity settings are set properly. The files were converted from hardcopy using Abbyy Fine Reader and quality controlled using MS Word 2003 and saved to RTF. 

Any suggestions or insight would be greatly appreciated. 

Cheers --- Dann  

+++++++++++++++++++++++
Daniel Berkowitz
Digilife Media, LLC
809 E. Bloomingdale Avenue
# 261
Brandon, FL 33511-8113

phone:  978-914-4601
fax:        813-689-4328 [please include Digilife Media #261 on cover sheet]
e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz
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From dann at digilifemedia.biz  Thu Jan 21 06:25:27 2010
From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] JAWS and RTF
In-Reply-To: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C03F9FBD3@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu>
Message-ID: <1746283907.277.1264083927949.JavaMail.root@mail>

I am grasping here because what the client is apparently seeking makes no sense to me either. I, too, cannot understand why they are in need of JAWS to pause at the end of lines. The student claims that work done for them in previous semesters is working just fine ut that the work done for them for this semester is faulty. Every indicator is that there is a software or user error on their end but all I have to go with is what they are telling me. Unfortuately the DSS provider is a bit of a tech-novice so is being led by the student. Something is simple not adding up here but I figured it was better to be safe than sorry. Someone on the list may have an insight or bizarre explaination. 

--- Dann 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Teresa Haven" <Teresa.Haven@asu.edu>
To: "Dann Berkowitz" <dann@digilifemedia.biz>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:17:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Athen] JAWS and RTF

Hi, Dann.  I'm a little confused -- I would think that the behavior you
describe (not pausing at end of lines, but pausing properly at
grammatical marks) would be exactly what a JAWS user would want.  Lines
are, after all, purely a figment of the visual form -- change the
margins, for example, and the length of the line changes.  What am I
missing?
Thanks,
Teresa
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D.
Supervisor, Alternate Format Program
Disability Resource Center
Arizona State University 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

PS -- did you get my Facebook message regarding your Digital Doesn't
Equal Accessible paper? 

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:10 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] JAWS and RTF

Quick question folks --- 

Not withstanding an issue with the verbosity controls - is anyone
familiar with JAWS having problems pausing at then end of lines BUT
properly pausing and stoping at grammatical marks? This is in reference
to JAWS reading RTF files. 

I have a client who has a student who is claiming that the RTF files we
provided them are not working with JAWS. Specifically that JAWS is not
pausing at the end of lines but IS pausing correctly at grammatical
marks. Yet the student claims their verbosity settings are set properly.
The files were converted from hardcopy using Abbyy Fine Reader and
quality controlled using MS Word 2003 and saved to RTF. 

Any suggestions or insight would be greatly appreciated. 

Cheers --- Dann  

+++++++++++++++++++++++
Daniel Berkowitz
Digilife Media, LLC
809 E. Bloomingdale Avenue
# 261
Brandon, FL 33511-8113

phone:  978-914-4601
fax:        813-689-4328 [please include Digilife Media #261 on cover
sheet]
e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz
web: www.digilifemedia.biz

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From hkramer.atsol at gmail.com  Thu Jan 21 11:11:20 2010
From: hkramer.atsol at gmail.com (Howard Kramer)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Who's attending ATIA in Orlando
In-Reply-To: <95D1023BE1E90D43AD435E6F88562BCC384226735B@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <20100120181645.AOL79952@riddler.int.colorado.edu>
	<95D1023BE1E90D43AD435E6F88562BCC384226735B@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU>
Message-ID: <baa6b6681001211111n143a9e01hc4650ab64826ec5a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Marla, Dann,

Sounds good. I will work out a schedule as per your preferences. Marla, are
you or anyone from CSU presenting who should be added to the ATHEN
presentation list?

Thanks,
Howard

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Roll,Marla <mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu>wrote:

> Hey there Howard and others,
>
> I am attending and would be happy to put in some hours at the booth - would
> prefer the Thursday or Friday morning time slots...
>
> Marla
>
> ___________________________________
> Marla C. Roll, MS, OTR
> Director, Assistive Technology Resource Center
> Assistant Professor, Occupational Therapy
> 304 Occupational Therapy Building
> Colorado State University
> Fort Collins, CO   80523
> 970-491-2016
> mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
> Behalf Of Howard Kramer
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:17 PM
> To: athen@athenpro.org
> Subject: [Athen] Who's attending ATIA in Orlando
>
> Hello All:
>
> Is anyone speaking at or attending ATIA next week. If so, we
> could use volunteers to help us staff the ATHEN/Accessing
> Higher Ground booth in the exhibit hall.
>
> Also, if you're presenting, let us know the details and we'll
> create a flyer listing all the ATHEN presentations.
>
> For those able and willing to help at the booth, the exhibit
> hall hours are:
> Thursday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 6:00 pm.
> Friday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 5:30 pm.
> Saturday: 9:00 am - 12 noon.
>
> If you could donate an hour or two to help out at the booth,
> that would be a great help.
>
> Sean - can you post the ATHEN sessions on the ATHEN web site.
> I'll send you the details on the sessions that me and Dan are
> doing shortly.
>
> Regards,
> Howard
>
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From: mpthornton at ualr.edu (Melanie Thornton)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Flipping Flash PDF Documents
Message-ID: <4B58ADFA.6080307@ualr.edu>

Hi all.  I recall a while back a discussion about these flipping books 
and concerns about accessibility.  At the time they had not raised their 
heads on our campus but now they have and I can't recall the details of 
the discussion.  The one I tested was keyboard accessible but had no 
recognizable content for JAWS at all.  Does anyone know if there are 
different levels of accessibility produced by different tools that 
create these? 

And how are your campuses responding to the discussion about using 
these?  Is anyone just saying "no" to them?  And if you are using them, 
what alternatives are being provided for access?

Thanks!

Melanie

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From dann at digilifemedia.biz  Thu Jan 21 08:26:03 2010
From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Who's attending ATIA in Orlando
In-Reply-To: <baa6b6681001211111n143a9e01hc4650ab64826ec5a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443473050.288.1264091163912.JavaMail.root@mail>

Actually Howard -- the afternoon times would work better for me. 

Thanks --- Dann 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Kramer" <hkramer.atsol@gmail.com>
To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" <athen@athenpro.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Athen] Who's attending ATIA in Orlando


Hi Marla, Dann, 


Sounds good. I will work out a schedule as per your preferences. Marla, are you or anyone from CSU presenting who should be added to the ATHEN presentation list? 


Thanks, 
Howard 


On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Roll,Marla < mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu > wrote: 


Hey there Howard and others, 

I am attending and would be happy to put in some hours at the booth - would prefer the Thursday or Friday morning time slots... 

Marla 

___________________________________ 
Marla C. Roll, MS, OTR 
Director, Assistive Technology Resource Center 
Assistant Professor, Occupational Therapy 
304 Occupational Therapy Building 
Colorado State University 
Fort Collins, CO ? 80523 
970-491-2016 
mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu 







-----Original Message----- 
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto: athen-bounces@athenpro.org ] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:17 PM 
To: athen@athenpro.org 
Subject: [Athen] Who's attending ATIA in Orlando 

Hello All: 

Is anyone speaking at or attending ATIA next week. If so, we 
could use volunteers to help us staff the ATHEN/Accessing 
Higher Ground booth in the exhibit hall. 

Also, if you're presenting, let us know the details and we'll 
create a flyer listing all the ATHEN presentations. 

For those able and willing to help at the booth, the exhibit 
hall hours are: 
Thursday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 6:00 pm. 
Friday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 5:30 pm. 
Saturday: 9:00 am - 12 noon. 

If you could donate an hour or two to help out at the booth, 
that would be a great help. 

Sean - can you post the ATHEN sessions on the ATHEN web site. 
I'll send you the details on the sessions that me and Dan are 
doing shortly. 

Regards, 
Howard 

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From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 21 13:17:50 2010
From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms
Message-ID: <6e84aedd1001211317n5b0ad44co796c0bb364dd7535@mail.gmail.com>

Hello
Has anyone had any experiences with a student that has an open book
exam and wishes to use a device like the Kindle or an e-book ap on an
iPod or iPhone?  How did you deal with the situation.  Many of these
devices have features that professors would not want a student having
access to like WiFi capabilities.  We haven't seen it happen yet but I
was just thinking of that when I was reading about BLIO this
afternoon.
Jeff
Cleveland State


From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU  Thu Jan 21 13:46:30 2010
From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms
In-Reply-To: <6e84aedd1001211317n5b0ad44co796c0bb364dd7535@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e84aedd1001211317n5b0ad44co796c0bb364dd7535@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DF4DB7B08672054297817DC8A554F2EA05825BBCC5@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL>

We have had students want to use devices such as the BrailleNote and PackMate to take tests.  At first, my director used to allow this until I explained to her that this was the same as letting any other student write their answers in the same notebook they used to take notes in class.  You cannot guarantee that the student will not access the notes from the class or other resources, including the textbook.

We now do not allow students to use such devices to read and/or write answers for tests.  They must use one of our computers with assistive technology that is setup for testing.  When we had a blind student complain that this was not fair because he was better at writing braille on the Braillenote than he was with typing into Word, we simply explained that he was in college and typing papers on the computer was going to be a skill he would have to develop.  Once he tried using JAWS to read and Word to write during a test, he really liked it.


Robert Lee Beach
Assistive Technology Specialist
Kansas City Kansas Community College
7250 State Avenue
Kansas City, KS  66112
Phone: 913-288-7671
Fax: 913-288-7678
E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:18 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms

Hello
Has anyone had any experiences with a student that has an open book
exam and wishes to use a device like the Kindle or an e-book ap on an
iPod or iPhone?  How did you deal with the situation.  Many of these
devices have features that professors would not want a student having
access to like WiFi capabilities.  We haven't seen it happen yet but I
was just thinking of that when I was reading about BLIO this
afternoon.
Jeff
Cleveland State

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From burke at mso.umt.edu  Thu Jan 21 14:00:31 2010
From: burke at mso.umt.edu (Burke, Dan (DSS))
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] JAWS and RTF
In-Reply-To: <61634995.259.1264083012977.JavaMail.root@mail>
References: <948477351.257.1264082628748.JavaMail.root@mail>
	<61634995.259.1264083012977.JavaMail.root@mail>
Message-ID: <A7D8DAF94B19E448AD667956D846F257014184DF@MUMMAILVS1.gs.umt.edu>

Yes, sometimes and it's an issue for me not of rich text, but of Office
with JAWS 11.

Daniel J. Burke
Assistant Director/Coordinator
Disability Services for Students
Emma B. Lommasson 154
The University of Montana
Missoula, MT 59812

www.umt.edu/dss/

406.243.2243 voice/text
406.243.4424 direct line
406.243.5330 fax


-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Dann Berkowitz
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:10 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] JAWS and RTF

Quick question folks --- 

Not withstanding an issue with the verbosity controls - is anyone
familiar with JAWS having problems pausing at then end of lines BUT
properly pausing and stoping at grammatical marks? This is in reference
to JAWS reading RTF files. 

I have a client who has a student who is claiming that the RTF files we
provided them are not working with JAWS. Specifically that JAWS is not
pausing at the end of lines but IS pausing correctly at grammatical
marks. Yet the student claims their verbosity settings are set properly.
The files were converted from hardcopy using Abbyy Fine Reader and
quality controlled using MS Word 2003 and saved to RTF. 

Any suggestions or insight would be greatly appreciated. 

Cheers --- Dann  

+++++++++++++++++++++++
Daniel Berkowitz
Digilife Media, LLC
809 E. Bloomingdale Avenue
# 261
Brandon, FL 33511-8113

phone:  978-914-4601
fax:        813-689-4328 [please include Digilife Media #261 on cover
sheet]
e-mail: dann@digilifemedia.biz
web: www.digilifemedia.biz

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From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu  Thu Jan 21 13:58:47 2010
From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms
In-Reply-To: <DF4DB7B08672054297817DC8A554F2EA05825BBCC5@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL>
References: <6e84aedd1001211317n5b0ad44co796c0bb364dd7535@mail.gmail.com>
	<DF4DB7B08672054297817DC8A554F2EA05825BBCC5@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL>
Message-ID: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C03F9FC8C@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu>

This is our point of view for closed-book, closed-note exams as well,
but I believe Jeff was specifically asking about open-book exams, which
are quite a different type of critter.  In that case, how do we handle
letting the student have the same access to their alt format materials
that their peers are getting with access to an open textbook, while
appropriately restricting other access such as internet?  For the
moment, I think it's less of an issue with the Kindle than it is for an
iPhone; Kindles only access the Amazon online store, they don't
otherwise surf the web, but iPhones can do an incredible array of tasks,
with more added every day.  As devices become more broad in the
functions they will perform, it seems reasonable to assume that this
question will become important for many of us to deal with; it also
appears to be a question that should reach beyond "disability services"
to our institutions in general as we attempt to become more universally
designed...

Teresa 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D.
Supervisor, Alternate Format Program
Disability Resource Center
Arizona State University 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Robert Beach
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:47 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms

We have had students want to use devices such as the BrailleNote and
PackMate to take tests.  At first, my director used to allow this until
I explained to her that this was the same as letting any other student
write their answers in the same notebook they used to take notes in
class.  You cannot guarantee that the student will not access the notes
from the class or other resources, including the textbook.

We now do not allow students to use such devices to read and/or write
answers for tests.  They must use one of our computers with assistive
technology that is setup for testing.  When we had a blind student
complain that this was not fair because he was better at writing braille
on the Braillenote than he was with typing into Word, we simply
explained that he was in college and typing papers on the computer was
going to be a skill he would have to develop.  Once he tried using JAWS
to read and Word to write during a test, he really liked it.


Robert Lee Beach
Assistive Technology Specialist
Kansas City Kansas Community College
7250 State Avenue
Kansas City, KS  66112
Phone: 913-288-7671
Fax: 913-288-7678
E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:18 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms

Hello
Has anyone had any experiences with a student that has an open book exam
and wishes to use a device like the Kindle or an e-book ap on an iPod or
iPhone?  How did you deal with the situation.  Many of these devices
have features that professors would not want a student having access to
like WiFi capabilities.  We haven't seen it happen yet but I was just
thinking of that when I was reading about BLIO this afternoon.
Jeff
Cleveland State

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From eea1 at sfu.ca  Thu Jan 21 14:35:22 2010
From: eea1 at sfu.ca (Ella Ermolenko)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms
In-Reply-To: <329085641.4195471264113235872.JavaMail.root@jaguar9.sfu.ca>
Message-ID: <207851373.4196351264113322294.JavaMail.root@jaguar9.sfu.ca>

We have a blind student, taking math courses and using PackMate during the exams, even though we do have concerns about exam security etc. But it's very hard for us to find an alternative input device for math exams. Any advice would be appreciated.

Regards,

Ella Ermolenko | Disability Services Officer
Centre for Students with Disabilities | Simon Fraser University
1250 Maggie Benston Centre
8888 University Drive, Burnaby | V5A 1S6
Tel: 778.782.5346 | Fax: 778.782.4384 | Email: eea1@sfu.ca


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Beach" <rbeach@KCKCC.EDU>
To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" <athen@athenpro.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:46:30 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms

We have had students want to use devices such as the BrailleNote and PackMate to take tests.  At first, my director used to allow this until I explained to her that this was the same as letting any other student write their answers in the same notebook they used to take notes in class.  You cannot guarantee that the student will not access the notes from the class or other resources, including the textbook.

We now do not allow students to use such devices to read and/or write answers for tests.  They must use one of our computers with assistive technology that is setup for testing.  When we had a blind student complain that this was not fair because he was better at writing braille on the Braillenote than he was with typing into Word, we simply explained that he was in college and typing papers on the computer was going to be a skill he would have to develop.  Once he tried using JAWS to read and Word to write during a test, he really liked it.


Robert Lee Beach
Assistive Technology Specialist
Kansas City Kansas Community College
7250 State Avenue
Kansas City, KS  66112
Phone: 913-288-7671
Fax: 913-288-7678
E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:18 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms

Hello
Has anyone had any experiences with a student that has an open book
exam and wishes to use a device like the Kindle or an e-book ap on an
iPod or iPhone?  How did you deal with the situation.  Many of these
devices have features that professors would not want a student having
access to like WiFi capabilities.  We haven't seen it happen yet but I
was just thinking of that when I was reading about BLIO this
afternoon.
Jeff
Cleveland State

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From burke at mso.umt.edu  Thu Jan 21 15:17:32 2010
From: burke at mso.umt.edu (Burke, Dan (DSS))
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms
In-Reply-To: <207851373.4196351264113322294.JavaMail.root@jaguar9.sfu.ca>
References: <329085641.4195471264113235872.JavaMail.root@jaguar9.sfu.ca>
	<207851373.4196351264113322294.JavaMail.root@jaguar9.sfu.ca>
Message-ID: <A7D8DAF94B19E448AD667956D846F257014184E0@MUMMAILVS1.gs.umt.edu>

It's a very tough call, especially when it comes to math and the reading
and writing of it is more native to someone in Nemeth code.

At one point, btw, we actually purchased a Braille Lite 40 for jus this
kind of problem.  Of course, a Braille display, such as with the Pac
Mate, can also work well with JAWS, I can't say how it would work with
math problems.  Probably not at all.

So, one way to manage the math test is simply to remove the student's
compact flash cards, and give the exam on another card or with a USB
thumb drive -- something that belongs to the department, not the
student.

There is memory on the Pac Mate, but the compact flash drives can also
hold wireless cards, so it's good to have them cleared.

Dan

Daniel J. Burke
Assistant Director/Coordinator
Disability Services for Students
Emma B. Lommasson 154
The University of Montana
Missoula, MT 59812

www.umt.edu/dss/

406.243.2243 voice/text
406.243.4424 direct line
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-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ella Ermolenko
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:35 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms

We have a blind student, taking math courses and using PackMate during
the exams, even though we do have concerns about exam security etc. But
it's very hard for us to find an alternative input device for math
exams. Any advice would be appreciated.

Regards,

Ella Ermolenko | Disability Services Officer
Centre for Students with Disabilities | Simon Fraser University
1250 Maggie Benston Centre
8888 University Drive, Burnaby | V5A 1S6
Tel: 778.782.5346 | Fax: 778.782.4384 | Email: eea1@sfu.ca


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Beach" <rbeach@KCKCC.EDU>
To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" <athen@athenpro.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:46:30 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms

We have had students want to use devices such as the BrailleNote and
PackMate to take tests.  At first, my director used to allow this until
I explained to her that this was the same as letting any other student
write their answers in the same notebook they used to take notes in
class.  You cannot guarantee that the student will not access the notes
from the class or other resources, including the textbook.

We now do not allow students to use such devices to read and/or write
answers for tests.  They must use one of our computers with assistive
technology that is setup for testing.  When we had a blind student
complain that this was not fair because he was better at writing braille
on the Braillenote than he was with typing into Word, we simply
explained that he was in college and typing papers on the computer was
going to be a skill he would have to develop.  Once he tried using JAWS
to read and Word to write during a test, he really liked it.


Robert Lee Beach
Assistive Technology Specialist
Kansas City Kansas Community College
7250 State Avenue
Kansas City, KS  66112
Phone: 913-288-7671
Fax: 913-288-7678
E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:18 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms

Hello
Has anyone had any experiences with a student that has an open book
exam and wishes to use a device like the Kindle or an e-book ap on an
iPod or iPhone?  How did you deal with the situation.  Many of these
devices have features that professors would not want a student having
access to like WiFi capabilities.  We haven't seen it happen yet but I
was just thinking of that when I was reading about BLIO this
afternoon.
Jeff
Cleveland State

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From Weston.Taylor at ColoradoCollege.edu  Thu Jan 21 15:32:24 2010
From: Weston.Taylor at ColoradoCollege.edu (Weston Taylor)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 48, Issue 20
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Message-ID: <BE15643F03FBC846AE7A56B20D596B96074E47B0@exchange-b.ColoradoCollege.edu>

Kindle actually can surf the web, though it is an 'experimental feature'.
Amazon DOES have a Kindle for PC application, which one could
theoretically install on a computer, let the student log in and download
their book and notes they took in the book, then disconnect the computer
from the internet.

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From JElmer at vcccd.edu  Thu Jan 21 16:10:33 2010
From: JElmer at vcccd.edu (John Elmer)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Flipping Flash PDF Documents
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References: <4B58ADFA.6080307@ualr.edu>
Message-ID: <EF94E7AEC4135A4595BC8083B2970106052F43D9D6@DMAILBOX.ad.vcccd.edu>

We were asked to evaluate one of these back in April and found both the keyboard accessibility and the content accessibility to be basically non-existent.  We said "no" and that seemed to be the end of it.  Then, another of these programs reared its head on our website (we have distributed content management), and have again raised the issue with IT.  It has only been a few days, so no response.  If nothing is forthcoming, we will raise the question at our monthly campus technology committee meeting.

John F. Elmer
Alternate Media Specialist
Educational Assistance Center (DSP&S)
Ventura College
4667 Telegraph Road
Ventura, CA 93003
805.654.6400, X1278
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From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Melanie Thornton [mpthornton@ualr.edu]
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:41 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] Flipping Flash PDF Documents

Hi all.  I recall a while back a discussion about these flipping books and concerns about accessibility.  At the time they had not raised their heads on our campus but now they have and I can't recall the details of the discussion.  The one I tested was keyboard accessible but had no recognizable content for JAWS at all.  Does anyone know if there are different levels of accessibility produced by different tools that create these?

And how are your campuses responding to the discussion about using these?  Is anyone just saying "no" to them?  And if you are using them, what alternatives are being provided for access?

Thanks!

Melanie

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From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net  Fri Jan 22 09:27:47 2010
From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Apple's upcoming tablet/slate/iPad and e-textbooks
Message-ID: <D83DB20F-111E-45A8-9164-91DB354359FE@techpotential.net>

Various articles have popped up this past week about Apple partnering  
with different education publishers on e-textbooks in the lead-up to  
their new tablet/slate/iPad device -- e.g., Harper-Collins last week,  
and now this article about McGraw-Hill and their Connect online  
learning system:

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jan2010/tc20100121_991806.htm

Is anyone familiar with Connect and its accessibility?  Connect was  
apparently developed in collaboration with Apple, and I know  
accessibility is more on Apple's radar now than it used to be.  The  
article also talks about CourseSmart, though, which was already  
declared "not accessible" by the listservs.

Guess we will just have to wait until at least next Wednesday and see.

- Shelley

_____________________________
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Assistive Technology Consultant
Shelley@TechPotential.net
www.TechPotential.net





From eea1 at sfu.ca  Fri Jan 22 09:32:23 2010
From: eea1 at sfu.ca (Ella Ermolenko)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms
In-Reply-To: <A7D8DAF94B19E448AD667956D846F257014184E0@MUMMAILVS1.gs.umt.edu>
Message-ID: <1358678889.4465631264181543175.JavaMail.root@jaguar9.sfu.ca>

Thanks for your great advice Dan, very helpful!

Regards,

Ella Ermolenko | Disability Services Officer 
Centre for Students with Disabilities | Simon Fraser University 
1250 Maggie Benston Centre 
8888 University Drive, Burnaby | V5A 1S6 
Tel: 778.782.5346 | Fax: 778.782.4384 | Email: eea1@sfu.ca 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Burke (DSS)" <burke@mso.umt.edu>
To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" <athen@athenpro.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:17:32 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms

It's a very tough call, especially when it comes to math and the reading
and writing of it is more native to someone in Nemeth code.

At one point, btw, we actually purchased a Braille Lite 40 for jus this
kind of problem.  Of course, a Braille display, such as with the Pac
Mate, can also work well with JAWS, I can't say how it would work with
math problems.  Probably not at all.

So, one way to manage the math test is simply to remove the student's
compact flash cards, and give the exam on another card or with a USB
thumb drive -- something that belongs to the department, not the
student.

There is memory on the Pac Mate, but the compact flash drives can also
hold wireless cards, so it's good to have them cleared.

Dan

Daniel J. Burke
Assistant Director/Coordinator
Disability Services for Students
Emma B. Lommasson 154
The University of Montana
Missoula, MT 59812

www.umt.edu/dss/

406.243.2243 voice/text
406.243.4424 direct line
406.243.5330 fax


-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ella Ermolenko
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:35 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms

We have a blind student, taking math courses and using PackMate during
the exams, even though we do have concerns about exam security etc. But
it's very hard for us to find an alternative input device for math
exams. Any advice would be appreciated.

Regards,

Ella Ermolenko | Disability Services Officer
Centre for Students with Disabilities | Simon Fraser University
1250 Maggie Benston Centre
8888 University Drive, Burnaby | V5A 1S6
Tel: 778.782.5346 | Fax: 778.782.4384 | Email: eea1@sfu.ca


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Beach" <rbeach@KCKCC.EDU>
To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" <athen@athenpro.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:46:30 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms

We have had students want to use devices such as the BrailleNote and
PackMate to take tests.  At first, my director used to allow this until
I explained to her that this was the same as letting any other student
write their answers in the same notebook they used to take notes in
class.  You cannot guarantee that the student will not access the notes
from the class or other resources, including the textbook.

We now do not allow students to use such devices to read and/or write
answers for tests.  They must use one of our computers with assistive
technology that is setup for testing.  When we had a blind student
complain that this was not fair because he was better at writing braille
on the Braillenote than he was with typing into Word, we simply
explained that he was in college and typing papers on the computer was
going to be a skill he would have to develop.  Once he tried using JAWS
to read and Word to write during a test, he really liked it.


Robert Lee Beach
Assistive Technology Specialist
Kansas City Kansas Community College
7250 State Avenue
Kansas City, KS  66112
Phone: 913-288-7671
Fax: 913-288-7678
E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:18 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] E-book devices in testing rooms

Hello
Has anyone had any experiences with a student that has an open book
exam and wishes to use a device like the Kindle or an e-book ap on an
iPod or iPhone?  How did you deal with the situation.  Many of these
devices have features that professors would not want a student having
access to like WiFi capabilities.  We haven't seen it happen yet but I
was just thinking of that when I was reading about BLIO this
afternoon.
Jeff
Cleveland State

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From skeegan at stanford.edu  Fri Jan 22 09:35:40 2010
From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] CalWAC is canceled for 2010
Message-ID: <4B59E1EC.6030005@stanford.edu>

Hello all,

Just a note the California Web Accessibility Conference is being 
canceled for 2010.  Below is the announcement from the Knowbility website.

Hopefully, the conference can continue in 2011.

Take care,
Sean

*****
Good Afternoon,

We are grateful for the continued support of our generous sponsors Deque 
- automated compliance for .edu <http://deque.com/> and Opera Software 
<http://www.opera.com/>

However, due to low registration caused by the economic downturn and the 
slow pace of recovery, we have made the difficult decision to postpone 
CalWAC 5.  We want to thank everyone who has shown interest in CalWAC 
and in ensuring access to information technology for everyone.  We 
sincerely apologize for any inconvenience that postponing the conference 
may cause.

Please be assured that we are already working on plans for CalWAC 2011. 
We will continue to update the CalWAC pages here as our plans come to 
fruition.  Until then, we are counting on you to pursue maximum 
accessibility in all your endeavors.  As always, we are grateful for the 
dedication and support of this community.
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From gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu  Fri Jan 22 10:03:16 2010
From: gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu (Gerry Nies)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Text to speech for nursing student
In-Reply-To: <D83DB20F-111E-45A8-9164-91DB354359FE@techpotential.net>
References: <D83DB20F-111E-45A8-9164-91DB354359FE@techpotential.net>
Message-ID: <4B599404020000E00001C90D@PLUTO.UND.NODAK.EDU>

We have a nursing student who has asked if there is any text to speech software the works well with the medical vocabulary.

So I am asking the group.

Thanks
Gerry



From ron at ahead.org  Fri Jan 22 10:15:59 2010
From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Text to speech for nursing student
In-Reply-To: <4B599404020000E00001C90D@PLUTO.UND.NODAK.EDU>
References: <D83DB20F-111E-45A8-9164-91DB354359FE@techpotential.net>
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What about dragon medical version if it still being produced?

Ron Stewart
8300 W. Weller St
Yorktown, IN 47396

(609) 213-2190


On Jan 22, 2010, at 13:03, "Gerry Nies" <gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu>  
wrote:

> We have a nursing student who has asked if there is any text to  
> speech software the works well with the medical vocabulary.
>
> So I am asking the group.
>
> Thanks
> Gerry
>
>
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From gdietrich at htctu.net  Fri Jan 22 10:31:42 2010
From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Text to speech for nursing student
In-Reply-To: <267F6B40-EF27-4EE3-8DDF-206D25B361F2@ahead.org>
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Dragon Medical (a version of Dragon Professional) is still produced. 

I have not used the medical version personally, but my understanding is that
the advantage of the medical version over the preferred version is that it
includes drug names, as well as a lot of "templates" using dictation macros:
http://www.nuance.com/healthcare/products/dragon_medical.asp 

Back when I was teaching Dragon in the classroom, I had a student who was
learning to be a medical transcriptionist. She used Dragon Preferred and it
worked extremely well for her.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich
High Tech Center Training Unit of the
California Community Colleges
De Anza College, Cupertino, CA
www.htctu.net
408-996-6043
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The HTCTU provides leadership, training, and support to the California
Community Colleges in using technology to promote the success of students
with disabilities.
-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ron Stewart
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 10:16 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Cc: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Text to speech for nursing student

What about dragon medical version if it still being produced?

Ron Stewart
8300 W. Weller St
Yorktown, IN 47396

(609) 213-2190


On Jan 22, 2010, at 13:03, "Gerry Nies" <gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu>  
wrote:

> We have a nursing student who has asked if there is any text to  
> speech software the works well with the medical vocabulary.
>
> So I am asking the group.
>
> Thanks
> Gerry
>
>
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From gdietrich at htctu.net  Fri Jan 22 10:53:36 2010
From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Who's attending ATIA in Orlando
In-Reply-To: <baa6b6681001211111n143a9e01hc4650ab64826ec5a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100120181645.AOL79952@riddler.int.colorado.edu><95D1023BE1E90D43AD435E6F88562BCC384226735B@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU>
	<baa6b6681001211111n143a9e01hc4650ab64826ec5a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AD4DD8CA4B34BFC8AE02544DAAB24AE@htctu.fhda.edu>

Jayme Johnson is going for the HTCTU...hmm...I am stuck here in CA with
torrential rains and flooding and Jayme is going to Florida...hmmm...

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 
High Tech Center Training Unit of the 
California Community Colleges 
De Anza College, Cupertino, CA 
www.htctu.net 
408-996-6043 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

The HTCTU provides leadership, training, and support to the California
Community Colleges in using technology to promote the success of students
with disabilities.

  _____  

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Howard Kramer
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:11 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Who's attending ATIA in Orlando

 

Hi Marla, Dann,

 

Sounds good. I will work out a schedule as per your preferences. Marla, are
you or anyone from CSU presenting who should be added to the ATHEN
presentation list?

 

Thanks,

Howard

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Roll,Marla <mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu>
wrote:

Hey there Howard and others,

I am attending and would be happy to put in some hours at the booth - would
prefer the Thursday or Friday morning time slots...

Marla

___________________________________
Marla C. Roll, MS, OTR
Director, Assistive Technology Resource Center
Assistant Professor, Occupational Therapy
304 Occupational Therapy Building
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO   80523
970-491-2016
mcroll@cahs.colostate.edu





-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Howard Kramer
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:17 PM
To: athen@athenpro.org
Subject: [Athen] Who's attending ATIA in Orlando

Hello All:

Is anyone speaking at or attending ATIA next week. If so, we
could use volunteers to help us staff the ATHEN/Accessing
Higher Ground booth in the exhibit hall.

Also, if you're presenting, let us know the details and we'll
create a flyer listing all the ATHEN presentations.

For those able and willing to help at the booth, the exhibit
hall hours are:
Thursday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 6:00 pm.
Friday: 10:30 am - 12:30 pm, 3:00 - 5:30 pm.
Saturday: 9:00 am - 12 noon.

If you could donate an hour or two to help out at the booth,
that would be a great help.

Sean - can you post the ATHEN sessions on the ATHEN web site.
I'll send you the details on the sessions that me and Dan are
doing shortly.

Regards,
Howard

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From petri.1 at osu.edu  Fri Jan 22 10:56:48 2010
From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Ken Petri)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Text to speech for nursing student
In-Reply-To: <267F6B40-EF27-4EE3-8DDF-206D25B361F2@ahead.org>
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Text to speech or speech to text? Dragon if the latter.

For the former, I'm pretty sure it depends on the voice. Some do better than
others with latinate words. You might call Nuance and ask about their
RealSpeak voices. It may be they can tell you which are best for med
vocabulary. Nuance also has an interactive demo where you can type in text
and have the voice streamed back. Other voice makers, such as AT&T and
Cepstral have similar online demos.

Best,
ken


On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Ron Stewart <ron@ahead.org> wrote:

> What about dragon medical version if it still being produced?
>
> Ron Stewart
> 8300 W. Weller St
> Yorktown, IN 47396
>
> (609) 213-2190
>
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2010, at 13:03, "Gerry Nies" <gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu>
> wrote:
>
>  We have a nursing student who has asked if there is any text to speech
>> software the works well with the medical vocabulary.
>>
>> So I am asking the group.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Gerry
>>
>>
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From eea1 at sfu.ca  Fri Jan 22 11:04:23 2010
From: eea1 at sfu.ca (Ella Ermolenko)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV
In-Reply-To: <1050621591.4527431264187027547.JavaMail.root@jaguar9.sfu.ca>
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Hello everyone,

Our centre is looking into buying the following equipment:

1) Portable CCTV for laptops
2) Portable video maginifier (handheld)

Does anyone have any recommendations? What works well in your institutions? Any input is greatly appreciated!

Ella

Ella Ermolenko | Disability Services Officer 
Centre for Students with Disabilities | Simon Fraser University 
1250 Maggie Benston Centre 
8888 University Drive, Burnaby | V5A 1S6 
Tel: 778.782.5346 | Fax: 778.782.4384 | Email: eea1@sfu.ca 




From petri.1 at osu.edu  Fri Jan 22 11:13:50 2010
From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Ken Petri)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV
In-Reply-To: <218807080.4527721264187063971.JavaMail.root@jaguar9.sfu.ca>
References: <1050621591.4527431264187027547.JavaMail.root@jaguar9.sfu.ca> 
	<218807080.4527721264187063971.JavaMail.root@jaguar9.sfu.ca>
Message-ID: <d16d6a2d1001221113i50d6d698y9a9d1ca39c5c04ba@mail.gmail.com>

For CCTV definitely have a look at the ABISee Zoom-Twix. We demo'ed one
earlier this week. It was astounding.

It is dual function: CCTV with highlighting playback and output to MP3 and a
magnifying camera for distance.

http://www.ulva.com/Online-Store/Scanning-Reading-Appliances/zoom-twix.htm

Best,
ken
-------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Petri
 Program Director
 OSU Web Accessibility Center
 102D Pomerene Hall
 1760 Neil Avenue
 Columbus, Ohio  43210
 Phone: (614) 292-1760
 Fax: (614) 292-4190
 mailto:petri.1@osu.edu
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Ella Ermolenko <eea1@sfu.ca> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Our centre is looking into buying the following equipment:
>
> 1) Portable CCTV for laptops
> 2) Portable video maginifier (handheld)
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations? What works well in your institutions?
> Any input is greatly appreciated!
>
> Ella
>
> Ella Ermolenko | Disability Services Officer
> Centre for Students with Disabilities | Simon Fraser University
> 1250 Maggie Benston Centre
> 8888 University Drive, Burnaby | V5A 1S6
> Tel: 778.782.5346 | Fax: 778.782.4384 | Email: eea1@sfu.ca
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
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From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net  Fri Jan 22 11:33:34 2010
From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV
In-Reply-To: <d16d6a2d1001221113i50d6d698y9a9d1ca39c5c04ba@mail.gmail.com>
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I'll second that.  We bought one of the original Zoom-Ex units years  
ago; it was fantastic then and is even better now with improved  
software.  For one thing, it's foldable and incredibly compact -- you  
can stick it in a large enough laptop bag -- and is totally USB  
powered (no AC adapter).  In addition, the included software can  
automatically re-flow the text on the screen as the user enlarges the  
image -- no horizontal scrolling needed.

It also has an auto mode for scanning books: hold the pages open, it  
clicks a picture and OCRs it.  Turn the page, it detects no motion,  
clicks another picture.

Coupled with the additional camera for distance viewing, it's called a  
Zoom-Twix.

http://www.abisee.com/product_over.html

- Shelley

_____________________________
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Assistive Technology Consultant
Shelley@TechPotential.net
www.TechPotential.net



On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Ken Petri wrote:

> For CCTV definitely have a look at the ABISee Zoom-Twix. We demo'ed  
> one earlier this week. It was astounding.
>
> It is dual function: CCTV with highlighting playback and output to  
> MP3 and a magnifying camera for distance.
>
> http://www.ulva.com/Online-Store/Scanning-Reading-Appliances/zoom-twix.htm
>
> Best,
> ken
> -------------------------------------------------------
>  Ken Petri
>  Program Director
>  OSU Web Accessibility Center
>  102D Pomerene Hall
>  1760 Neil Avenue
>  Columbus, Ohio  43210
>  Phone: (614) 292-1760
>  Fax: (614) 292-4190
>  mailto:petri.1@osu.edu
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Ella Ermolenko <eea1@sfu.ca> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Our centre is looking into buying the following equipment:
>
> 1) Portable CCTV for laptops
> 2) Portable video maginifier (handheld)
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations? What works well in your  
> institutions? Any input is greatly appreciated!
>
> Ella
>
> Ella Ermolenko | Disability Services Officer
> Centre for Students with Disabilities | Simon Fraser University
> 1250 Maggie Benston Centre
> 8888 University Drive, Burnaby | V5A 1S6
> Tel: 778.782.5346 | Fax: 778.782.4384 | Email: eea1@sfu.ca
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
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From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 22 11:34:32 2010
From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV
In-Reply-To: <218807080.4527721264187063971.JavaMail.root@jaguar9.sfu.ca>
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We have 2 video magnifiers that connect to laptops.  We have the
PCMate from Clarity which I am not a big fan of and the LVI Magnilink
Student.  Our students really like the Magnilink.  It is very
flexible.  It not only has the USB connector.  It also has out puts
for VGA and RCA if your students would like to connect it to a monitor
or TV.  It also works great with ZoomText.
We have 3 handheld video magnifiers; QuickLook, SenseView, and the
SenseView Duo.  The senseview duo is great if you want bells and
whistles but some students think it is overly complicated.  The
original senseview is easy to use and has a great picture.
Jeff
Cleveland State

On 1/22/10, Ella Ermolenko <eea1@sfu.ca> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Our centre is looking into buying the following equipment:
>
> 1) Portable CCTV for laptops
> 2) Portable video maginifier (handheld)
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations? What works well in your institutions?
> Any input is greatly appreciated!
>
> Ella
>
> Ella Ermolenko | Disability Services Officer
> Centre for Students with Disabilities | Simon Fraser University
> 1250 Maggie Benston Centre
> 8888 University Drive, Burnaby | V5A 1S6
> Tel: 778.782.5346 | Fax: 778.782.4384 | Email: eea1@sfu.ca
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
> Athen@athenpro.org
> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org
>


From edward at ngtvoice.com  Fri Jan 22 12:28:06 2010
From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Text to speech for nursing student
In-Reply-To: <267F6B40-EF27-4EE3-8DDF-206D25B361F2@ahead.org>
References: <D83DB20F-111E-45A8-9164-91DB354359FE@techpotential.net>	<4B599404020000E00001C90D@PLUTO.UND.NODAK.EDU>
	<267F6B40-EF27-4EE3-8DDF-206D25B361F2@ahead.org>
Message-ID: <003401ca9ba1$69af3350$3d0d99f0$@com>

To clarify, do you mean text to speech or speech to text?-ed.

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ron Stewart
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 10:16 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Cc: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Text to speech for nursing student

What about dragon medical version if it still being produced?

Ron Stewart
8300 W. Weller St
Yorktown, IN 47396

(609) 213-2190


On Jan 22, 2010, at 13:03, "Gerry Nies" <gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu>  
wrote:

> We have a nursing student who has asked if there is any text to  
> speech software the works well with the medical vocabulary.
>
> So I am asking the group.
>
> Thanks
> Gerry
>
>
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From ron at ahead.org  Fri Jan 22 12:35:39 2010
From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Text to speech for nursing student
In-Reply-To: <003401ca9ba1$69af3350$3d0d99f0$@com>
References: <D83DB20F-111E-45A8-9164-91DB354359FE@techpotential.net>	<4B599404020000E00001C90D@PLUTO.UND.NODAK.EDU>	<267F6B40-EF27-4EE3-8DDF-206D25B361F2@ahead.org>
	<003401ca9ba1$69af3350$3d0d99f0$@com>
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MY bad sorry, most of the commercial TTS packages do fine with medical
terminology.

Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ed. Rosenthal
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 3:28 PM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: Re: [Athen] Text to speech for nursing student

To clarify, do you mean text to speech or speech to text?-ed.

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ron Stewart
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 10:16 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Cc: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Text to speech for nursing student

What about dragon medical version if it still being produced?

Ron Stewart
8300 W. Weller St
Yorktown, IN 47396

(609) 213-2190


On Jan 22, 2010, at 13:03, "Gerry Nies" <gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu>  
wrote:

> We have a nursing student who has asked if there is any text to  
> speech software the works well with the medical vocabulary.
>
> So I am asking the group.
>
> Thanks
> Gerry
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
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From gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu  Fri Jan 22 12:46:28 2010
From: gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu (Gerry Nies)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Text to speech for nursing student
In-Reply-To: <003401ca9ba1$69af3350$3d0d99f0$@com>
References: <D83DB20F-111E-45A8-9164-91DB354359FE@techpotential.net>
	<4B599404020000E00001C90D@PLUTO.UND.NODAK.EDU>
	<267F6B40-EF27-4EE3-8DDF-206D25B361F2@ahead.org>
	<003401ca9ba1$69af3350$3d0d99f0$@com>
Message-ID: <4B59BA44020000E00001C944@PLUTO.UND.NODAK.EDU>

I mean text to speech for reading her textbooks. The need for correct pronunciation of medical terminology  has made the inexpensive programs like ReadPlease virtually useless.

Thanks

>>> "Ed. Rosenthal" <edward@ngtvoice.com> 1/22/2010 2:28 PM >>>
To clarify, do you mean text to speech or speech to text?-ed.

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ron Stewart
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 10:16 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Cc: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Text to speech for nursing student

What about dragon medical version if it still being produced?

Ron Stewart
8300 W. Weller St
Yorktown, IN 47396

(609) 213-2190


On Jan 22, 2010, at 13:03, "Gerry Nies" <gerrynies@mail.und.nodak.edu>  
wrote:

> We have a nursing student who has asked if there is any text to  
> speech software the works well with the medical vocabulary.
>
> So I am asking the group.
>
> Thanks
> Gerry
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Athen mailing list
> Athen@athenpro.org 
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From asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca  Fri Jan 22 13:43:23 2010
From: asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca (Jennison Mark Asuncion)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] accessibility unconferences
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1001221642490.26696@alcor.concordia.ca>

Hello,

Thought I'd let folks know that there is a bit of a movement afoot, mainly
on Twitter, to look at holding accessibility unconferences. The purpose
here is to bring together members of the developer community, along with
other IT folks, usability professionals, end-users with disabilities,
accessibility pros, and others to share and learn about accessibility in
an nonthreatening, informal environment. What's more, these events are
free, and there's typically a lunch involved.

What's an unconference? I'm libel to confuse more than anything else, so
I'll point folks to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference as a point
of reference. You can find three blog posts on Accessibility Camp DC held
last October, which is serving as one model here
http://www.accessibilitycampdc.org/slides.shtml

At the minute, a date has been chosen for an accessibility unconference in
Boston, May 15, venue TBA. Others are actively looking at events in
Seattle and London (UK). There will be a 2nd Accessibility camp DC this
fall. Toronto and Ottawa are also in "feeler" stage, and I've heard
whispers elsewhere.

If you are: interested in keeping up-to-date on these unconferences, want
to get involved with helping organize one of the existing events mentioned
above, and/or if you are interested in looking at organizing one in your
city, feel free to e-mail me off-list.

Thanks,
Jennison


Jennison Mark Asuncion
Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network www.adaptech.org
LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/jennison


From mpthornton at ualr.edu  Sun Jan 24 18:27:25 2010
From: mpthornton at ualr.edu (Melanie Thornton)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Math Tutorial Options
Message-ID: <4B5D018D.8010405@ualr.edu>

Hi all.

Our campus uses ALEKS for developmental math courses and it is not 
accessible.  I'm interested in what other campuses are doing as an 
alternative to this kind of application.  I recall seeing discussion 
about alternatives to the assessment for placement in math, but wonder 
if others have an online or self-paced alternative that is accessible 
using MathML.

Interestingly, as I was searching, I found this news release.  I have 
inquired about this product with the vendor.  Anyone on this list 
familiar with this?

http://www.quantumsimulations.com/news3_07.html

Thanks!

Melanie
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From Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu  Mon Jan 25 09:19:42 2010
From: Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu (Kenneth Elkind)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Text to speech for nursing student
Message-ID: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC0026EA8C0@ebe1.umassb.net>

Generally of a Latin-based words are pronounced reasonably well with the voice synthesized speech. Read please 2003 free version uses Microsoft voice synthesizers. Read please does allow you to upgrade to Real Speak for about $25. It is a much natural sounding speech. You can try Textaloud that uses real speak.

My suggestion is to download Kurzweil 3000 trial CD provides you with a wide range of synthesized speech you can experiment with RealSpeak without a cost.

 
Kenneth Elkind
University of Massachusett Boston
100 Morrissey Blvd
Boston, MA 02125
(617) 287-5243 Office
(617) 287-5227 ACL Lab
kenneth.elkind@umb.edu <mailto:kenneth.elkind@umb.edu> 
 
 
 
 
 


From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net  Mon Jan 25 11:49:42 2010
From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Hotel alternatives for CSUN
Message-ID: <C5F763DE-9F1A-462F-8EB1-272F500F4A4D@techpotential.net>

As most of you know, this year's CSUN conference is at the Manchester  
Grand Hyatt in San Diego.  Their discounted (!!!) rates for the  
conference are $189 per night, which could be a deal-breaker for many  
of us.

Can anyone recommend some less expensive hotels within walking  
distance of the Hyatt?  I figured some of you are probably more  
familiar with the area.

On a related note (saving money), I see that conference registration  
rates go up by $50 after February 8th (from $450 to $500).

Thanks!
- Shelley

_____________________________
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Assistive Technology Consultant
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From skeegan at stanford.edu  Mon Jan 25 12:23:34 2010
From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Hotel alternatives for CSUN
In-Reply-To: <C5F763DE-9F1A-462F-8EB1-272F500F4A4D@techpotential.net>
References: <C5F763DE-9F1A-462F-8EB1-272F500F4A4D@techpotential.net>
Message-ID: <4B5DFDC6.6080408@stanford.edu>

 > Can anyone recommend some less expensive hotels
 > within walking distance of the Hyatt?

It will depend on what you consider "walking distance" <grin> - there is 
not much that is close in that area that is available at a reduced rate. 
  San Diego is not the cheapest place to visit (at least in the downtown 
region).

You may want to check out the following:

Holiday Inn San Diego - http://www.hisandiegoonthebay.com/
I think they were about $150 per night.

A really cheap option is the 500 West Hotel - http://tinyurl.com/yzteq72
I think they are around $40-$70 per night.

You might get better results via Priceline or HotelReservations.com

You might check the other hotels in that region (Hilton, Marriott, 
etc.), but I already checked for March 24-26 and it seems most other 
hotels are already booked.

Take care,
sean
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From Dave.M.Thomas at studentlife.du.edu  Mon Jan 25 12:27:03 2010
From: Dave.M.Thomas at studentlife.du.edu (Dave M. Thomas)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil Reader Disabled
Message-ID: <C617B8314AC105479D8EAFF7CB1BC36B147A@EXCH.du.edu>

Hi!

A student just came to me who uses Kurzweil 3000. She tells me that when she opens Kurzweil 3000 she gets an error message stating, "Reader is Disabled." She told me she and another person were trying to select a different voice (maybe a different synthesizer - I don't know).

Any ideas as to what causes this and how I can tell her to fix it?

Thank you!

Dave


Dave Thomas, Assistive Technology Specialist
University of Denver Disability Services Program
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From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU  Mon Jan 25 14:17:26 2010
From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] resources for access to the curriculum
Message-ID: <20100125151726.AOO53806@riddler.int.colorado.edu>

Hey all:

I'm doing one of my presentations at ATIA on "access to the 
curriculum." I've done it before but if any one has any 
resources to point me to or important themes to mention, it 
would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Howard


From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 25 15:10:17 2010
From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:46 2018
Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil Reader Disabled
In-Reply-To: <C617B8314AC105479D8EAFF7CB1BC36B147A@EXCH.du.edu>
References: <C617B8314AC105479D8EAFF7CB1BC36B147A@EXCH.du.edu>
Message-ID: <6e84aedd1001251510qb1c1f91i10f91881903dd4ac@mail.gmail.com>

I can think of two reasons why this might happen.
First you said that she was trying to select a different voice.  There
are some voices that will only work with a specific program.
TrueVoice is an example of this.  It installs with ZoomText and
appears in the SAPI 5 list but you can only use them with ZoomText.
They can set it to a new voice by going to Tools > Options > Reading
Tab on the left and setting Speaker to something familiar or to a
voice that she knows works.  Microsoft Sam may be good to test it.
My Second thought is that the feature is locked.  If she is not logged
in as an administrator then the administrator account may have
disabled the Reading features.  She would need to log in as an
administrator, open Kurzweil 3000, go to Tools > Lock Features, and
see if the options for locking the reading features are checked.
Hope that helps.
Jeff

On 1/25/10, Dave M. Thomas <Dave.M.Thomas@studentlife.du.edu> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> A student just came to me who uses Kurzweil 3000. She tells me that when she
> opens Kurzweil 3000 she gets an error message stating, "Reader is Disabled."
> She told me she and another person were trying to select a different voice
> (maybe a different synthesizer - I don't know).
>
> Any ideas as to what causes this and how I can tell her to fix it?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Dave
>
>
> Dave Thomas, Assistive Technology Specialist
> University of Denver Disability Services Program
> 2050 E. Evans Ave., Suite #30
> Denver, CO 80208
> dave.m.thomas@studentlife.du.edu<mailto:dave.m.thomas@studentlife.du.edu>
> 303-871-2269 (phone)
> 303-871-3939 (Fax)
>
>
>


From zpaz at ldrfa.org  Mon Jan 25 20:55:43 2010
From: zpaz at ldrfa.org (Zahavit Paz)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] resources for access to the curriculum
In-Reply-To: <20100125151726.AOO53806@riddler.int.colorado.edu>
References: <20100125151726.AOO53806@riddler.int.colorado.edu>
Message-ID: <51849c9a1001252055wa60eed6h68cfe8b24fd99c38@mail.gmail.com>

Howard  hi,
great topic!
 in  spite, of all the positive changes, students with disabilities still
face many difficulties and challenges . For example, access  to syllabus
book list 3-4 weeks before the  semester starts. to give them a chance to
order their books in digital format from libraries especially true for new
textbooks .

Higher Ed do not any special  policy about  syllabus for people with
disabilities  it's left for the Prof's who often are not familiar with the
process of applying for digital text books.
 This is part of the problem  why students with disabilities  drop out rate
at  higher education is nearly twice the  rate than students without
disabilities.


On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Howard Kramer
<Howard.Kramer@colorado.edu>wrote:

> Hey all:
>
> I'm doing one of my presentations at ATIA on "access to the
> curriculum." I've done it before but if any one has any
> resources to point me to or important themes to mention, it
> would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Howard
>
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From zpaz at ldrfa.org  Tue Jan 26 11:01:18 2010
From: zpaz at ldrfa.org (Zahavit Paz)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] ATIA/will attend 01-29
Message-ID: <51849c9a1001261101n10e55ad1vfae2e0bf4c6e693d@mail.gmail.com>

Howard Hi,
I will be arriving to AITA on 01-28 in the afternoon I can help out
or on 01-29 I will be all day on 01-29 leaving in the evening to NYC.
I will be available on my cell



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From Carol.Raymundo at linnbenton.edu  Tue Jan 26 12:59:04 2010
From: Carol.Raymundo at linnbenton.edu (Carol Raymundo)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] SmartMic
In-Reply-To: <6e84aedd1001251510qb1c1f91i10f91881903dd4ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C617B8314AC105479D8EAFF7CB1BC36B147A@EXCH.du.edu>
	<6e84aedd1001251510qb1c1f91i10f91881903dd4ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B5EE698.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu>

I am wondering if anyone has heard or used a product named SmartMic? 
http://www.speechtechnology.com/voicerecognition.cfm?URLID=SmartMic-Series 
 
My supervisor has asked me to look into this mask-like microphone for students to use with Dragon Naturally Speaking during proctored exams. We currently have one private room for students and are looking into other options.
 
I personally feel the mask is unsanitary to require students to use if the private room is not available. Please let me know if you have any input on this matter. If you've experienced using this product let me know what you liked about it.....or didn't like about it.
 
 
 
 
 
Carol Raymundo
Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology
Linn-Benton Community College
Office of Disability Services
Phone: 541-917-4832
Fax: 541-917-4328
 
NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward.
 ( http://www.speechtechnology.com/voicerecognition.cfm?URLID=SmartMic-Series )
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From Dave.M.Thomas at studentlife.du.edu  Tue Jan 26 13:08:48 2010
From: Dave.M.Thomas at studentlife.du.edu (Dave M. Thomas)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Free and Reliable OCR
Message-ID: <C617B8314AC105479D8EAFF7CB1BC36B02A1F3@EXCH.du.edu>

Hi!

Does anyone know of free or low-cost AND reliable OCR software? A professor attended a presentation I did on assistive technology and is interested in running much of her image files through OCR and then listening to them. The presentation was all about Universal Design for Learning.

Thank you!

Dave


Dave Thomas, Assistive Technology Specialist
University of Denver Disability Services Program
2050 E. Evans Ave., Suite #30
Denver, CO 80208
dave.m.thomas@studentlife.du.edu<mailto:dave.m.thomas@studentlife.du.edu>
303-871-2269 (phone)
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From petri.1 at osu.edu  Tue Jan 26 13:19:19 2010
From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Ken Petri)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] SmartMic
In-Reply-To: <4B5EE698.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu>
References: <C617B8314AC105479D8EAFF7CB1BC36B147A@EXCH.du.edu> 
	<6e84aedd1001251510qb1c1f91i10f91881903dd4ac@mail.gmail.com> 
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Hi Carol,

I have only seen this or something like it used in an "echoing"
situation--where SR is being used for live transcription of an event and the
room has no means to accommodate a voice transcriber in an out of the way,
sound-proofed location.

I really cannot imagine a student having to wear one in a public venue. My
own view is that such a requirement would go beyond being merely unsanitary
and might be construed as a violation of personal rights. (I am not a
lawyer, however.)

Best,
ken
-------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Petri
 Program Director
 OSU Web Accessibility Center
 102D Pomerene Hall
 1760 Neil Avenue
 Columbus, Ohio  43210
 Phone: (614) 292-1760
 Fax: (614) 292-4190
 mailto:petri.1@osu.edu
-------------------------------------------------------


On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Carol Raymundo <
Carol.Raymundo@linnbenton.edu> wrote:

>  I am wondering if anyone has heard or used a product named SmartMic?
> http://www.speechtechnology.com/voicerecognition.cfm?URLID=SmartMic-Series
>
> My supervisor has asked me to look into this mask-like microphone for
> students to use with Dragon Naturally Speaking during proctored exams. We
> currently have one private room for students and are looking into other
> options.
>
> I personally feel the mask is unsanitary to require students to use if the
> private room is not available. Please let me know if you have any input on
> this matter. If you've experienced using this product let me know what you
> liked about it.....or didn't like about it.
>
>
>
>
>
>  Carol Raymundo
> Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology
> Linn-Benton Community College
> Office of Disability Services
> Phone: 541-917-4832
> Fax: 541-917-4328
>
> NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic
> Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
> privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not
> forward.
> <http://www.speechtechnology.com/voicerecognition.cfm?URLID=SmartMic-Series>
>
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From john.gardner at orst.edu  Tue Jan 26 13:49:11 2010
From: john.gardner at orst.edu (John Gardner)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Free and Reliable OCR
In-Reply-To: <C617B8314AC105479D8EAFF7CB1BC36B02A1F3@EXCH.du.edu>
References: <C617B8314AC105479D8EAFF7CB1BC36B02A1F3@EXCH.du.edu>
Message-ID: <4B5F6357.2050902@orst.edu>

Hi. The Document Image Writer utility bundled with Microsoft Office does 
an excelloent job of OCR'ing.

On 1/26/2010 1:08 PM, Dave M. Thomas wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Does anyone know of free or low-cost AND reliable OCR software? A
> professor attended a presentation I did on assistive technology and is
> interested in running much of her image files through OCR and then
> listening to them. The presentation was all about Universal Design for
> Learning.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Dave
>
> Dave Thomas, Assistive Technology Specialist
>
> University of Denver Disability Services Program
>
> 2050 E. Evans Ave., Suite #30
>
> Denver, CO 80208
>
> dave.m.thomas@studentlife.du.edu <mailto:dave.m.thomas@studentlife.du.edu>
>
> 303-871-2269 (phone)
>
> 303-871-3939 (Fax)
>
>
>
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From ron at ahead.org  Tue Jan 26 14:11:44 2010
From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] SmartMic
In-Reply-To: <d16d6a2d1001261319o77dff54cud4a6b21c10e2216e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C617B8314AC105479D8EAFF7CB1BC36B147A@EXCH.du.edu>
	<6e84aedd1001251510qb1c1f91i10f91881903dd4ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B5EE698.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu>
	<d16d6a2d1001261319o77dff54cud4a6b21c10e2216e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003901ca9ed4$8c156c30$a4404490$@org>

Hi all, 

 

This is just another form of a Steno Mask.  RIT had a research project
looking at their use a few years back, maybe where the CaptionMic product
started out,  as a method of developing lecture transcripts and captioning
transcripts.  We looked at these quite a bit when we were first starting the
captioning program at Oregon State, and I even worked with one myself when I
was doing speech recognition research many moons back.  Bottom line is they
can work very well if the VR software has been properly trained but they are
very confining and claustrophobic.  I was good for about 10 minutes and then
wanted to throw the thing across the room.

 

You will sometimes see used in courts by court stenographers who are using
voice dictation system and very rarely these days by folks who are working
with DNS.  If the person is voluntarily willing to use one then they can be
very effective in doing voice recognition in a busy or loud environment.  As
Ken has mentioned they are very commonly used in transcription situations.

 

To make someone use one as a necessary part of a testing accommodation just
say no please.

 

Ron Stewart

 

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ken Petri
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:19 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] SmartMic

 

Hi Carol,

I have only seen this or something like it used in an "echoing"
situation--where SR is being used for live transcription of an event and the
room has no means to accommodate a voice transcriber in an out of the way,
sound-proofed location. 

I really cannot imagine a student having to wear one in a public venue. My
own view is that such a requirement would go beyond being merely unsanitary
and might be construed as a violation of personal rights. (I am not a
lawyer, however.)

Best,
ken
-------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Petri                    
 Program Director
 OSU Web Accessibility Center
 102D Pomerene Hall
 1760 Neil Avenue
 Columbus, Ohio  43210
 Phone: (614) 292-1760
 Fax: (614) 292-4190
 mailto:petri.1@osu.edu
-------------------------------------------------------



On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Carol Raymundo
<Carol.Raymundo@linnbenton.edu> wrote:

I am wondering if anyone has heard or used a product named SmartMic? 

http://www.speechtechnology.com/voicerecognition.cfm?URLID=SmartMic-Series

 

My supervisor has asked me to look into this mask-like microphone for
students to use with Dragon Naturally Speaking during proctored exams. We
currently have one private room for students and are looking into other
options.

 

I personally feel the mask is unsanitary to require students to use if the
private room is not available. Please let me know if you have any input on
this matter. If you've experienced using this product let me know what you
liked about it.....or didn't like about it.

 

 

 

 

 

Carol Raymundo

Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology
Linn-Benton Community College

Office of Disability Services

Phone: 541-917-4832

Fax: 541-917-4328

 

NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic
Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not
forward.


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From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net  Tue Jan 26 14:45:38 2010
From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] McGraw-Hill CEO confirms e-textbooks on new Apple tablet
Message-ID: <8519582F-611D-4E92-9A30-FA65315FA621@techpotential.net>

In the linked video, McGraw-Hill CEO Terry McGraw confirms that their  
textbooks will be available on Apple's new tablet (to be announced  
Wed. morning) which runs the iPhone OS...but, of course, no mention of  
the accessibility of said e-textbooks.  A news crawler at the bottom  
of the interview points out "All titles on CourseSmart are available  
to students on the iPhone", so one could infer that such e-textbooks  
will have the same level of accessibility on the iPhone OS-based  
tablet -- namely, they're not.

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/26/mcgraw-hill-ceo-confirms-apple-tablet-iphone-os-based-going-to-be-terrific/

"We have worked with Apple for quite a while. And the Tablet is going  
to be based on the iPhone operating system and so it will be  
transferable. So what you are going to be able to do now is we have a  
consortium of e-books. And we have 95% of all our materials that are  
in e-book format on that one. So now with the tablet you're going to  
open up the higher education market, the professional market."


_____________________________
Shelley Haven  ATP, RET
Assistive Technology Consultant
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From info at karlencommunications.com  Tue Jan 26 16:30:14 2010
From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Free and Reliable OCR
In-Reply-To: <C617B8314AC105479D8EAFF7CB1BC36B02A1F3@EXCH.du.edu>
References: <C617B8314AC105479D8EAFF7CB1BC36B02A1F3@EXCH.du.edu>
Message-ID: <002601ca9ee7$e500f680$af02e380$@com>

I wrote a how to document on using the free Microsoft Office Document
Imaging tool

http://www.karlencommunications.com/MicrosoftOfficeAccessibility.html

 

This is pretty good OCR as it uses the Nuance OmniPage Pro sort of lite OCR
engine I think...you can upgrade to OmniPage Pro from Office which is why I
think this.

 

It is available in previous versions of Microsoft Office as well as 2007.

 

You can easily send the recognized text to Word and use Narrator to read it
or other tools.

 

Cheers, Karen

 

From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Dave M. Thomas
Sent: January-26-10 4:09 PM
To: Athen@athenpro.org
Subject: [Athen] Free and Reliable OCR

 

Hi!

 

Does anyone know of free or low-cost AND reliable OCR software? A professor
attended a presentation I did on assistive technology and is interested in
running much of her image files through OCR and then listening to them. The
presentation was all about Universal Design for Learning.

 

Thank you!

 

Dave

 

 

Dave Thomas, Assistive Technology Specialist

University of Denver Disability Services Program

2050 E. Evans Ave., Suite #30

Denver, CO 80208

dave.m.thomas@studentlife.du.edu

303-871-2269 (phone)

303-871-3939 (Fax)

 

 

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From jongund at illinois.edu  Wed Jan 27 06:50:11 2010
From: jongund at illinois.edu (Jon Gunderson)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Free and Reliable OCR
In-Reply-To: <C617B8314AC105479D8EAFF7CB1BC36B02A1F3@EXCH.du.edu>
References: <C617B8314AC105479D8EAFF7CB1BC36B02A1F3@EXCH.du.edu>
Message-ID: <20100127085011.CBL99040@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu>

Google has an open source OCR project.

You need to convert the documents to TIFF files to use the engine I believe.

http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/



---- Original message ----
>Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:08:48 -0700
>From: "Dave M. Thomas" <Dave.M.Thomas@studentlife.du.edu>  
>Subject: [Athen] Free and Reliable OCR  
>To: "Athen@athenpro.org" <Athen@athenpro.org>
>
>   Hi!
>
>    
>
>   Does anyone know of free or low-cost AND reliable OCR software? A professor attended a
>   presentation I did on assistive technology and is interested in running much of her image
>   files through OCR and then listening to them. The presentation was all about Universal
>   Design for Learning.
>
>    
>
>   Thank you!
>
>    
>
>   Dave
>
>    
>
>    
>
>   Dave Thomas, Assistive Technology Specialist
>
>   University of Denver Disability Services Program
>
>   2050 E. Evans Ave., Suite #30
>
>   Denver, CO 80208
>
>   dave.m.thomas@studentlife.du.edu
>
>   303-871-2269 (phone)
>
>   303-871-3939 (Fax)
>
>    
>
>    
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Rehabilitation Education Center
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From jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu  Wed Jan 27 07:50:45 2010
From: jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu (Pielaet, Jon)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Free and Reliable OCR
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Yeah,

Tesseract was a project started by IBM and it does a pretty good job. My
only recommendation would be to increase you input resolution from the
typical 300 dpi to something higher like 500 or 600 dpi for better
results. The open source OCR engines like the one in tesseract or GOCR
(which is another fine project) are not as finely tuned and need more
detail. 

If you're looking for an open source scanning tool for getting TIF files
to put into tesseract or GOCR I would recommend sane or Xsane. It's
easiest to install these in a Unix environment but Windows ports are
also available.

These tools work for most folks. 

Now that being said commercial solutions are almost always more accurate
and reliable.

I'd like to hear how these tools are working for people. I am a real
believer in open source.

Thanks for the thread,

Jon

Jon P. Pielaet
Program Assistant for Instructional Materials
Disability Services for Students
Emma B. Lommasson 154
The University of Montana
Missoula, MT 59812

www.umt.edu/dss/

406-243-2243 Voice/Text
406-243-4461 Direct Line
406-243-5330 Fax
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Jon Gunderson
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 7:50 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Free and Reliable OCR

Google has an open source OCR project.

You need to convert the documents to TIFF files to use the engine I
believe.

http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/



---- Original message ----
>Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:08:48 -0700
>From: "Dave M. Thomas" <Dave.M.Thomas@studentlife.du.edu>  
>Subject: [Athen] Free and Reliable OCR  
>To: "Athen@athenpro.org" <Athen@athenpro.org>
>
>   Hi!
>
>    
>
>   Does anyone know of free or low-cost AND reliable OCR software? A
professor attended a
>   presentation I did on assistive technology and is interested in
running much of her image
>   files through OCR and then listening to them. The presentation was
all about Universal
>   Design for Learning.
>
>    
>
>   Thank you!
>
>    
>
>   Dave
>
>    
>
>    
>
>   Dave Thomas, Assistive Technology Specialist
>
>   University of Denver Disability Services Program
>
>   2050 E. Evans Ave., Suite #30
>
>   Denver, CO 80208
>
>   dave.m.thomas@studentlife.du.edu
>
>   303-871-2269 (phone)
>
>   303-871-3939 (Fax)
>
>    
>
>    
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From jhausler at cahs.colostate.edu  Wed Jan 27 12:33:05 2010
From: jhausler at cahs.colostate.edu (Hausler,Jesse)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV
In-Reply-To: <218807080.4527721264187063971.JavaMail.root@jaguar9.sfu.ca>
References: <1050621591.4527431264187027547.JavaMail.root@jaguar9.sfu.ca>
	<218807080.4527721264187063971.JavaMail.root@jaguar9.sfu.ca>
Message-ID: <3F3B6F21B523744BBA0EF420CCD8078F877E71D0BC@ODIN.CAHS.ColoState.EDU>

Hi Ella,

We purchased a Humanware Graduate for one of our low vision students. It hooks into the laptop through USB.  It doubles as a distance camera and a video magnifier. 

http://www.humanware.com/en-international/products/low_vision/desktop_portable_magnifiers/_details/id_127/smartview_graduate.html

It's also very light weight and portable.  Our only gripe is that the picture is a bit more grainy then we would prefer.  

Jesse Hausler
Colorado State University

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ella Ermolenko
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:04 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] Portable CCTV

Hello everyone,

Our centre is looking into buying the following equipment:

1) Portable CCTV for laptops
2) Portable video maginifier (handheld)

Does anyone have any recommendations? What works well in your institutions? Any input is greatly appreciated!

Ella

Ella Ermolenko | Disability Services Officer 
Centre for Students with Disabilities | Simon Fraser University 
1250 Maggie Benston Centre 
8888 University Drive, Burnaby | V5A 1S6 
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From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net  Wed Jan 27 13:22:17 2010
From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
Message-ID: <C8FF558B-3A9F-4276-A8A3-614CB61D7E51@techpotential.net>

OK, so the new Apple iPad includes VoiceOver and the built-in iBook  
app uses the open ePub format.  From that, what can we infer about the  
accessibility, or potential accessibility, of eBooks on the iPad?

- Shelley

_____________________________
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Assistive Technology Consultant
Shelley@TechPotential.net
www.TechPotential.net





From pratikp1 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 27 13:27:06 2010
From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
In-Reply-To: <C8FF558B-3A9F-4276-A8A3-614CB61D7E51@techpotential.net>
References: <C8FF558B-3A9F-4276-A8A3-614CB61D7E51@techpotential.net>
Message-ID: <003901ca9f97$7b8f2fe0$72ad8fa0$@com>

My initial thoughts are that the iBook application itself will be
accessible.  Voiceover will be included.  The challenge is going to be
voiceover enhancements.  It's an excellentscreen reader.  However there are
some short-comings.  There need to be some enhancements related to text
reading/text navigation.  If the software release can bring those
enhancements and provide access to the book info in iBooks, I believe
accessibility will work well.  I also want to see how specific epub features
are implemented will make a difference.

Regards,

Pratik


-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Shelley Haven
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:22 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility

OK, so the new Apple iPad includes VoiceOver and the built-in iBook  
app uses the open ePub format.  From that, what can we infer about the  
accessibility, or potential accessibility, of eBooks on the iPad?

- Shelley

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From ron at ahead.org  Wed Jan 27 13:34:40 2010
From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
In-Reply-To: <003901ca9f97$7b8f2fe0$72ad8fa0$@com>
References: <C8FF558B-3A9F-4276-A8A3-614CB61D7E51@techpotential.net>
	<003901ca9f97$7b8f2fe0$72ad8fa0$@com>
Message-ID: <001e01ca9f98$890f3100$9b2d9300$@org>

Given that these are the same commercial eBooks that are delivered to the
Windows platform they are most likely going to be as inaccessible if not
more so on the iPad as they are in the Windows environment.  It would be
wonderful to find out different.

Ron

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Behalf Of Pratik Patel
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:27 PM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility

My initial thoughts are that the iBook application itself will be
accessible.  Voiceover will be included.  The challenge is going to be
voiceover enhancements.  It's an excellentscreen reader.  However there are
some short-comings.  There need to be some enhancements related to text
reading/text navigation.  If the software release can bring those
enhancements and provide access to the book info in iBooks, I believe
accessibility will work well.  I also want to see how specific epub features
are implemented will make a difference.

Regards,

Pratik


-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Shelley Haven
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:22 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility

OK, so the new Apple iPad includes VoiceOver and the built-in iBook  
app uses the open ePub format.  From that, what can we infer about the  
accessibility, or potential accessibility, of eBooks on the iPad?

- Shelley

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From pratikp1 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 27 13:55:46 2010
From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
In-Reply-To: <C8FF558B-3A9F-4276-A8A3-614CB61D7E51@techpotential.net>
References: <C8FF558B-3A9F-4276-A8A3-614CB61D7E51@techpotential.net>
Message-ID: <003a01ca9f9b$7cd68020$76838060$@com>

Just want to add one Caveat to my earlier post.  The major question to all
of these predictions will be the implementation of their DRM and how that
DRM will affect access to the text. We may have a situation where the iBook
application may be accessible but the text may not be due to the DRM.  Let's
hope that the implementation is sensible.

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Shelley Haven
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:22 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility

OK, so the new Apple iPad includes VoiceOver and the built-in iBook  
app uses the open ePub format.  From that, what can we infer about the  
accessibility, or potential accessibility, of eBooks on the iPad?

- Shelley

_____________________________
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From Linda.Nieuwenhuijsen at Handicap-Studie.nl  Thu Jan 28 04:03:47 2010
From: Linda.Nieuwenhuijsen at Handicap-Studie.nl (Linda Nieuwenhuijsen)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] screenreader HAL and SPSS?
Message-ID: <0F0C5C82FF1717409AD2330E0470F5FB0E2911B0D9@HS-DC01.handicap-studie.local>

I don't think the screenreader HAL is being used a lot in the US, but is there anyone that knows if HAL can deal with SPSS (for statistics)? It is for someone that uses a brailledisplay.

Thanks,

Kind regards,
Linda Nieuwenhuijsen
Helpdesk | expertise: digital accessibility & Assistive Technology
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From: hadi at illinois.edu (Hadi Rangin)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] HAL and SPSS
Message-ID: <732B91D5546345F78BC59BD676B57270@ad.uiuc.edu>

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I don't think the screenreader HAL is being used a lot in the US, but is there anyone that knows if HAL can deal with SPSS (for statistics)? It is for someone that uses a brailledisplay.

 

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From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Quick ATHEN Website survey
Message-ID: <4B61CF6D.6050402@stanford.edu>

Dear ATHEN members,

We are conducting a short survey regarding the ATHEN website and what 
features and functionality the ATHEN community would like to see 
implemented.  Any information provided remains anonymous and is intended 
to help prioritize the features and future development of the ATHEN website.

The survey may be accessed at:
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This survey should take approximately 5 minutes to complete and will be 
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From jhausler at cahs.colostate.edu  Thu Jan 28 11:02:15 2010
From: jhausler at cahs.colostate.edu (Hausler,Jesse)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] screenreader HAL and SPSS?
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I don't know for sure if HAL will work with SPSS, but I do know that SPSS requires the Java Access Bridge v2.0 to work with most AT including ZoomText and JAWS.

Jesse



From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Linda Nieuwenhuijsen
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 5:04 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] screenreader HAL and SPSS?

I don't think the screenreader HAL is being used a lot in the US, but is there anyone that knows if HAL can deal with SPSS (for statistics)? It is for someone that uses a brailledisplay.

Thanks,

Kind regards,
Linda Nieuwenhuijsen
Helpdesk | expertise: digital accessibility & Assistive Technology
bereikbaar: ma, di, do en vr
expertisecentrum handicap + studie | Christiaan Krammlaan 2 |  Postbus 222 | 3500 AE Utrecht | t: 030 - 275  96 07 | f: 030 - 275 33 09 | www.handicap-studie.nl




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From info at karlencommunications.com  Fri Jan 29 05:33:31 2010
From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
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Generally, is there any information on whether the calendar and address book
are accessible using VoiceOver? What about the metadata for photos? I just
saw the promo video and this would be perfect for me rather than an iPhone
and lighter than my laptop and would have just the basic tools: e-mail,
calendar, address book, way of browsing, and so forth. Hopefully I could
read the RSS feeds from the NYT and other papers. The potential for eBook
accessibility is interesting too and something I would use.

Anyone know how accessible to VoiceOver the on-screen keyboard is? I assume
that all apps are not accessible but for the core tools, I think this would
be perfect for me....but I do need VoiceOver. I was kind of disappointed
that in the promo tools such as VoiceOver or voice recognition weren't shown
as more mainstream tools...given the TTS on the Kindle.

Cheers, Karen

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Pratik Patel
Sent: January-27-10 4:27 PM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility

My initial thoughts are that the iBook application itself will be
accessible.  Voiceover will be included.  The challenge is going to be
voiceover enhancements.  It's an excellentscreen reader.  However there are
some short-comings.  There need to be some enhancements related to text
reading/text navigation.  If the software release can bring those
enhancements and provide access to the book info in iBooks, I believe
accessibility will work well.  I also want to see how specific epub features
are implemented will make a difference.

Regards,

Pratik


-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Shelley Haven
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:22 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility

OK, so the new Apple iPad includes VoiceOver and the built-in iBook  
app uses the open ePub format.  From that, what can we infer about the  
accessibility, or potential accessibility, of eBooks on the iPad?

- Shelley

_____________________________
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Shelley@TechPotential.net
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From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 29 07:15:44 2010
From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
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It is supposed to be.  The OS for the iPad is a version of the OS used
for the iPhone.  The iPhone keyboard and all apps that come on the
device are accessible to VoiceOver.  There are many apps available
from the app store that are.  I don't know about the meta tags for the
pictures because I rarely use the camera.
Jeff

On 1/29/10, Karlen Communications <info@karlencommunications.com> wrote:
> Generally, is there any information on whether the calendar and address book
> are accessible using VoiceOver? What about the metadata for photos? I just
> saw the promo video and this would be perfect for me rather than an iPhone
> and lighter than my laptop and would have just the basic tools: e-mail,
> calendar, address book, way of browsing, and so forth. Hopefully I could
> read the RSS feeds from the NYT and other papers. The potential for eBook
> accessibility is interesting too and something I would use.
>
> Anyone know how accessible to VoiceOver the on-screen keyboard is? I assume
> that all apps are not accessible but for the core tools, I think this would
> be perfect for me....but I do need VoiceOver. I was kind of disappointed
> that in the promo tools such as VoiceOver or voice recognition weren't shown
> as more mainstream tools...given the TTS on the Kindle.
>
> Cheers, Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
> Behalf Of Pratik Patel
> Sent: January-27-10 4:27 PM
> To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
> Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
>
> My initial thoughts are that the iBook application itself will be
> accessible.  Voiceover will be included.  The challenge is going to be
> voiceover enhancements.  It's an excellentscreen reader.  However there are
> some short-comings.  There need to be some enhancements related to text
> reading/text navigation.  If the software release can bring those
> enhancements and provide access to the book info in iBooks, I believe
> accessibility will work well.  I also want to see how specific epub features
> are implemented will make a difference.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pratik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
> Behalf Of Shelley Haven
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:22 PM
> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
> Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
>
> OK, so the new Apple iPad includes VoiceOver and the built-in iBook
> app uses the open ePub format.  From that, what can we infer about the
> accessibility, or potential accessibility, of eBooks on the iPad?
>
> - Shelley
>
> _____________________________
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> Assistive Technology Consultant
> Shelley@TechPotential.net
> www.TechPotential.net
>
>
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From johumber at iupui.edu  Fri Jan 29 07:23:56 2010
From: johumber at iupui.edu (Humbert, Joseph A)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
In-Reply-To: <6e84aedd1001290715naa8a2c3p7ef6566176917162@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi All!

I have been following the coverage of the iPad.  So far I has seen no mention of voiceover.  In the presentations and in their online documentation.  http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ It is my hope that voiceover is included, but the iPad uses a modified iPhone OS. Features such as voice over may have been removed or disabled.  With all of the hoopla over the Kindle and text-to-speech, I wonder what deals apple has worked out with the publishers. I will try to ping Apple to find out the accessibility of the iPad and I encourage others to do so.  Thankx.

Joe Humbert,?Assistive Technology and Web Accessibility Specialist
UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers
Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington
535 W Michigan St. IT214 E
Indianapolis, IN 46202
Office Phone: (317) 274-4378
Cell Phone: (317) 644-6824
johumber@iupui.edu
http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:16 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility

It is supposed to be.  The OS for the iPad is a version of the OS used
for the iPhone.  The iPhone keyboard and all apps that come on the
device are accessible to VoiceOver.  There are many apps available
from the app store that are.  I don't know about the meta tags for the
pictures because I rarely use the camera.
Jeff

On 1/29/10, Karlen Communications <info@karlencommunications.com> wrote:
> Generally, is there any information on whether the calendar and address book
> are accessible using VoiceOver? What about the metadata for photos? I just
> saw the promo video and this would be perfect for me rather than an iPhone
> and lighter than my laptop and would have just the basic tools: e-mail,
> calendar, address book, way of browsing, and so forth. Hopefully I could
> read the RSS feeds from the NYT and other papers. The potential for eBook
> accessibility is interesting too and something I would use.
>
> Anyone know how accessible to VoiceOver the on-screen keyboard is? I assume
> that all apps are not accessible but for the core tools, I think this would
> be perfect for me....but I do need VoiceOver. I was kind of disappointed
> that in the promo tools such as VoiceOver or voice recognition weren't shown
> as more mainstream tools...given the TTS on the Kindle.
>
> Cheers, Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
> Behalf Of Pratik Patel
> Sent: January-27-10 4:27 PM
> To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
> Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
>
> My initial thoughts are that the iBook application itself will be
> accessible.  Voiceover will be included.  The challenge is going to be
> voiceover enhancements.  It's an excellentscreen reader.  However there are
> some short-comings.  There need to be some enhancements related to text
> reading/text navigation.  If the software release can bring those
> enhancements and provide access to the book info in iBooks, I believe
> accessibility will work well.  I also want to see how specific epub features
> are implemented will make a difference.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pratik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
> Behalf Of Shelley Haven
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:22 PM
> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
> Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
>
> OK, so the new Apple iPad includes VoiceOver and the built-in iBook
> app uses the open ePub format.  From that, what can we infer about the
> accessibility, or potential accessibility, of eBooks on the iPad?
>
> - Shelley
>
> _____________________________
> Shelley Haven  ATP, RET
> Assistive Technology Consultant
> Shelley@TechPotential.net
> www.TechPotential.net
>
>
>
>
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From pratikp1 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 29 07:32:24 2010
From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
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Hello Karen,

All the built-in apps including the calendar, e-mail, contacts, iPod,
weather, maps and more are perfectly usable with Voice Over.  The Voice Over
interface is unique and takes getting used to.  But, once you do get used to
it, it's hard to compare it to something else.  The most awkward component
is the keyboard access.  The virtual keyboard is quite accessible and usable
but difficult for some.  Keep in mind that the iPad will have the ability to
dock that Apple will provide.  You will also be able to connect the iPad to
a smaller bluetooth keyboard if you so wish.  I have found  the keyboard is
not so bad once one gets used to it.  But different people have a different
experience.

There are plenty of free and accessible applications that will allow you to
read RSS.  As to photos, there are quite a few photo management tools
available.  What kind of metadata would you be looking for with regards to
photos?  All of your data including photos are synchronized to iTunes and
you will be able to access your photos on your computer as well.

Please feel free to contact me if you have questions.  if you'd like a
little time to play with my phone to get a sense of the interface and will
be going to CSUN, I'm happy to meet with you.

Regards,

Pratik

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Karlen Communications
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:34 AM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility

Generally, is there any information on whether the calendar and address book
are accessible using VoiceOver? What about the metadata for photos? I just
saw the promo video and this would be perfect for me rather than an iPhone
and lighter than my laptop and would have just the basic tools: e-mail,
calendar, address book, way of browsing, and so forth. Hopefully I could
read the RSS feeds from the NYT and other papers. The potential for eBook
accessibility is interesting too and something I would use.

Anyone know how accessible to VoiceOver the on-screen keyboard is? I assume
that all apps are not accessible but for the core tools, I think this would
be perfect for me....but I do need VoiceOver. I was kind of disappointed
that in the promo tools such as VoiceOver or voice recognition weren't shown
as more mainstream tools...given the TTS on the Kindle.

Cheers, Karen

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Pratik Patel
Sent: January-27-10 4:27 PM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility

My initial thoughts are that the iBook application itself will be
accessible.  Voiceover will be included.  The challenge is going to be
voiceover enhancements.  It's an excellentscreen reader.  However there are
some short-comings.  There need to be some enhancements related to text
reading/text navigation.  If the software release can bring those
enhancements and provide access to the book info in iBooks, I believe
accessibility will work well.  I also want to see how specific epub features
are implemented will make a difference.

Regards,

Pratik


-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Shelley Haven
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:22 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility

OK, so the new Apple iPad includes VoiceOver and the built-in iBook  
app uses the open ePub format.  From that, what can we infer about the  
accessibility, or potential accessibility, of eBooks on the iPad?

- Shelley

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From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 29 07:33:13 2010
From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
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It is on the Tech Specks
Accessibility
? Support for playback of closed-captioned content
? VoiceOver screen reader
? Full-screen zoom magnification
? White on black display
? Mono audio

On 1/29/10, Humbert, Joseph A <johumber@iupui.edu> wrote:
> Hi All!
>
> I have been following the coverage of the iPad.  So far I has seen no
> mention of voiceover.  In the presentations and in their online
> documentation.  http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ It is my hope that
> voiceover is included, but the iPad uses a modified iPhone OS. Features such
> as voice over may have been removed or disabled.  With all of the hoopla
> over the Kindle and text-to-speech, I wonder what deals apple has worked out
> with the publishers. I will try to ping Apple to find out the accessibility
> of the iPad and I encourage others to do so.  Thankx.
>
> Joe Humbert,?Assistive Technology and Web Accessibility Specialist
> UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers
> Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington
> 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E
> Indianapolis, IN 46202
> Office Phone: (317) 274-4378
> Cell Phone: (317) 644-6824
> johumber@iupui.edu
> http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:16 AM
> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
> Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
>
> It is supposed to be.  The OS for the iPad is a version of the OS used
> for the iPhone.  The iPhone keyboard and all apps that come on the
> device are accessible to VoiceOver.  There are many apps available
> from the app store that are.  I don't know about the meta tags for the
> pictures because I rarely use the camera.
> Jeff
>
> On 1/29/10, Karlen Communications <info@karlencommunications.com> wrote:
>> Generally, is there any information on whether the calendar and address
>> book
>> are accessible using VoiceOver? What about the metadata for photos? I just
>> saw the promo video and this would be perfect for me rather than an iPhone
>> and lighter than my laptop and would have just the basic tools: e-mail,
>> calendar, address book, way of browsing, and so forth. Hopefully I could
>> read the RSS feeds from the NYT and other papers. The potential for eBook
>> accessibility is interesting too and something I would use.
>>
>> Anyone know how accessible to VoiceOver the on-screen keyboard is? I
>> assume
>> that all apps are not accessible but for the core tools, I think this
>> would
>> be perfect for me....but I do need VoiceOver. I was kind of disappointed
>> that in the promo tools such as VoiceOver or voice recognition weren't
>> shown
>> as more mainstream tools...given the TTS on the Kindle.
>>
>> Cheers, Karen
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
>> Behalf Of Pratik Patel
>> Sent: January-27-10 4:27 PM
>> To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
>> Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
>>
>> My initial thoughts are that the iBook application itself will be
>> accessible.  Voiceover will be included.  The challenge is going to be
>> voiceover enhancements.  It's an excellentscreen reader.  However there
>> are
>> some short-comings.  There need to be some enhancements related to text
>> reading/text navigation.  If the software release can bring those
>> enhancements and provide access to the book info in iBooks, I believe
>> accessibility will work well.  I also want to see how specific epub
>> features
>> are implemented will make a difference.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Pratik
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
>> Behalf Of Shelley Haven
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:22 PM
>> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
>> Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
>>
>> OK, so the new Apple iPad includes VoiceOver and the built-in iBook
>> app uses the open ePub format.  From that, what can we infer about the
>> accessibility, or potential accessibility, of eBooks on the iPad?
>>
>> - Shelley
>>
>> _____________________________
>> Shelley Haven  ATP, RET
>> Assistive Technology Consultant
>> Shelley@TechPotential.net
>> www.TechPotential.net
>>
>>
>>
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From pratikp1 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 29 07:36:07 2010
From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
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Joe,

If you look at the Apple specs for the iPad, Voiceover is specifically
mentioned as one of the features.  The iPad OS is not significantly
different.  There is no indication that the accessibility available on the
iPhone will not be available on the iPad.  I would compare the accessibility
of the iPad to that found on the Touch.  This will include Voiceover, Zoom,
Mono audio, and ability to play closed captioned video.

Regards,

Pratik


-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Humbert, Joseph A
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:24 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility

Hi All!

I have been following the coverage of the iPad.  So far I has seen no
mention of voiceover.  In the presentations and in their online
documentation.  http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ It is my hope that
voiceover is included, but the iPad uses a modified iPhone OS. Features such
as voice over may have been removed or disabled.  With all of the hoopla
over the Kindle and text-to-speech, I wonder what deals apple has worked out
with the publishers. I will try to ping Apple to find out the accessibility
of the iPad and I encourage others to do so.  Thankx.

Joe Humbert,?Assistive Technology and Web Accessibility Specialist
UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers
Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington
535 W Michigan St. IT214 E
Indianapolis, IN 46202
Office Phone: (317) 274-4378
Cell Phone: (317) 644-6824
johumber@iupui.edu
http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:16 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility

It is supposed to be.  The OS for the iPad is a version of the OS used
for the iPhone.  The iPhone keyboard and all apps that come on the
device are accessible to VoiceOver.  There are many apps available
from the app store that are.  I don't know about the meta tags for the
pictures because I rarely use the camera.
Jeff

On 1/29/10, Karlen Communications <info@karlencommunications.com> wrote:
> Generally, is there any information on whether the calendar and address
book
> are accessible using VoiceOver? What about the metadata for photos? I just
> saw the promo video and this would be perfect for me rather than an iPhone
> and lighter than my laptop and would have just the basic tools: e-mail,
> calendar, address book, way of browsing, and so forth. Hopefully I could
> read the RSS feeds from the NYT and other papers. The potential for eBook
> accessibility is interesting too and something I would use.
>
> Anyone know how accessible to VoiceOver the on-screen keyboard is? I
assume
> that all apps are not accessible but for the core tools, I think this
would
> be perfect for me....but I do need VoiceOver. I was kind of disappointed
> that in the promo tools such as VoiceOver or voice recognition weren't
shown
> as more mainstream tools...given the TTS on the Kindle.
>
> Cheers, Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
> Behalf Of Pratik Patel
> Sent: January-27-10 4:27 PM
> To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
> Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
>
> My initial thoughts are that the iBook application itself will be
> accessible.  Voiceover will be included.  The challenge is going to be
> voiceover enhancements.  It's an excellentscreen reader.  However there
are
> some short-comings.  There need to be some enhancements related to text
> reading/text navigation.  If the software release can bring those
> enhancements and provide access to the book info in iBooks, I believe
> accessibility will work well.  I also want to see how specific epub
features
> are implemented will make a difference.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pratik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On
> Behalf Of Shelley Haven
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:22 PM
> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
> Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
>
> OK, so the new Apple iPad includes VoiceOver and the built-in iBook
> app uses the open ePub format.  From that, what can we infer about the
> accessibility, or potential accessibility, of eBooks on the iPad?
>
> - Shelley
>
> _____________________________
> Shelley Haven  ATP, RET
> Assistive Technology Consultant
> Shelley@TechPotential.net
> www.TechPotential.net
>
>
>
>
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From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net  Fri Jan 29 08:04:55 2010
From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
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Here's the specs page I read before asking the question.  Toward the  
bottom it lists accessibility features, which includes VoiceOver.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/

_____________________________
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Assistive Technology Consultant
Shelley@TechPotential.net
www.TechPotential.net



On Jan 29, 2010, at 7:23 AM, Humbert, Joseph A wrote:

> Hi All!
>
> I have been following the coverage of the iPad.  So far I has seen  
> no mention of voiceover.  In the presentations and in their online  
> documentation.  http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ It is my hope  
> that voiceover is included, but the iPad uses a modified iPhone OS.  
> Features such as voice over may have been removed or disabled.  With  
> all of the hoopla over the Kindle and text-to-speech, I wonder what  
> deals apple has worked out with the publishers. I will try to ping  
> Apple to find out the accessibility of the iPad and I encourage  
> others to do so.  Thankx.
>
> Joe Humbert, Assistive Technology and Web Accessibility Specialist
> UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers
> Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington
> 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E
> Indianapolis, IN 46202
> Office Phone: (317) 274-4378
> Cell Phone: (317) 644-6824
> johumber@iupui.edu
> http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org]  
> On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:16 AM
> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
> Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
>
> It is supposed to be.  The OS for the iPad is a version of the OS used
> for the iPhone.  The iPhone keyboard and all apps that come on the
> device are accessible to VoiceOver.  There are many apps available
> from the app store that are.  I don't know about the meta tags for the
> pictures because I rarely use the camera.
> Jeff
>
> On 1/29/10, Karlen Communications <info@karlencommunications.com>  
> wrote:
>> Generally, is there any information on whether the calendar and  
>> address book
>> are accessible using VoiceOver? What about the metadata for photos?  
>> I just
>> saw the promo video and this would be perfect for me rather than an  
>> iPhone
>> and lighter than my laptop and would have just the basic tools: e- 
>> mail,
>> calendar, address book, way of browsing, and so forth. Hopefully I  
>> could
>> read the RSS feeds from the NYT and other papers. The potential for  
>> eBook
>> accessibility is interesting too and something I would use.
>>
>> Anyone know how accessible to VoiceOver the on-screen keyboard is?  
>> I assume
>> that all apps are not accessible but for the core tools, I think  
>> this would
>> be perfect for me....but I do need VoiceOver. I was kind of  
>> disappointed
>> that in the promo tools such as VoiceOver or voice recognition  
>> weren't shown
>> as more mainstream tools...given the TTS on the Kindle.
>>
>> Cheers, Karen
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen- 
>> bounces@athenpro.org] On
>> Behalf Of Pratik Patel
>> Sent: January-27-10 4:27 PM
>> To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
>> Subject: Re: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
>>
>> My initial thoughts are that the iBook application itself will be
>> accessible.  Voiceover will be included.  The challenge is going to  
>> be
>> voiceover enhancements.  It's an excellentscreen reader.  However  
>> there are
>> some short-comings.  There need to be some enhancements related to  
>> text
>> reading/text navigation.  If the software release can bring those
>> enhancements and provide access to the book info in iBooks, I believe
>> accessibility will work well.  I also want to see how specific epub  
>> features
>> are implemented will make a difference.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Pratik
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen- 
>> bounces@athenpro.org] On
>> Behalf Of Shelley Haven
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:22 PM
>> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
>> Subject: [Athen] Question re: Apple iPad and eBook accessibility
>>
>> OK, so the new Apple iPad includes VoiceOver and the built-in iBook
>> app uses the open ePub format.  From that, what can we infer about  
>> the
>> accessibility, or potential accessibility, of eBooks on the iPad?
>>
>> - Shelley
>>
>> _____________________________
>> Shelley Haven  ATP, RET
>> Assistive Technology Consultant
>> Shelley@TechPotential.net
>> www.TechPotential.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net  Sat Jan 30 00:33:15 2010
From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] CSUN session on iPhone and iPod Touch accessibility
Message-ID: <1FAA036D-299B-4743-BE11-03F9D61203FE@techpotential.net>

Given the various posts about iPhone, iPod, and now iPad  
accessibility, I thought some of you might be interested in this CSUN  
session conducted by Apple's Mary Beth Janes and Mike Shebanek.  I  
assume it will include the iPad now that that particular cat is out of  
the bag.

http://csunconference.org/index.cfm?EID=80000218&p=151&page=scheduledetail&LCID=3769&ECTID=0
OTH-1022
Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 10:40 - 11:40 AM PST
Beginner
Maggie
iPhone and iPod Touch Accessibility
The new iPhone 3GS includes a screen reader, full-screen  
magnification, and other new accessibility features. This presentation  
will review these features.
Mary Beth Janes
Apple
Mike Shebanek
Apple Inc



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From: nettiet at gmail.com (Nettie Fischer)
Date: Sat Jun  9 18:29:47 2018
Subject: [Athen] SmartMic
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I do not beleive it was designed for multiple users - and, if several people
use the same mask, sounds pretty unsanitary to me too.  Also, having worked
with students for many years, they do not like to look different and, boy,
would that look DIFFERENT!!!!   Most of the kiddo's or should I say all of
the kiddo's that have the cognition level to use Dragon WOULD NOT put that
mask on in a public setting -

Nettie

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Carol Raymundo <
Carol.Raymundo@linnbenton.edu> wrote:

>  I am wondering if anyone has heard or used a product named SmartMic?
> http://www.speechtechnology.com/voicerecognition.cfm?URLID=SmartMic-Series
>
> My supervisor has asked me to look into this mask-like microphone for
> students to use with Dragon Naturally Speaking during proctored exams. We
> currently have one private room for students and are looking into other
> options.
>
> I personally feel the mask is unsanitary to require students to use if the
> private room is not available. Please let me know if you have any input on
> this matter. If you've experienced using this product let me know what you
> liked about it.....or didn't like about it.
>
>
>
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>
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