From ccolaci at yukoncollege.yk.ca Tue Mar 2 16:40:57 2010 From: ccolaci at yukoncollege.yk.ca (Catalina Colaci) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:49 2018 Subject: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 49, Issue 14 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Robert et al The device you might be thinking about might be at http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2001/01/41001 Then there is the Frog Pad www.frogpad.com Reviewed at http://www.pdabuzz.com/Home/tabid/54/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4 55/ReviewFrogPadTheonehandedkeyboard.aspx Another option could be a small keyboard -so the fingers don't have to travel so far. -Little fingers keyboard is one (there is another one similar at) http://www.aboutonehandtyping.com/littlefingers.html We did have a client a couple of years ago taking the Office Administration program, who had damaged very badly his arms and shoulders -repetitive movement at work-. We made the request that the client be allowed to speech-type using Dragon. The client was able to achieve 120 wpm (when 50 was the passing mark). If you are interested, I can send you the letter/report I put together for the Dean of Trades & Business Programs at that time Have a nice day. Catalina Colaci Coordinator Learning Assistance Centre & Support Services for Students with Disabilities 500 College Drive, PO Box 2799 Whitehorse, Yukon Y1A 5K4 Canada t 867.668.8785 f 867.668.8814 www.yukoncollege.yk.ca start here. go anywhere. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Catherine M. Stager Kilcommons Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:21 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: RE: Athen Digest, Vol 49, Issue 14 Hi Robert, We used Five Finger Typist software, but it does its own tracking and I don't know how it would work within another program. There is a demo available http://www.typeonehand.com/demo.html Best regards, Cath -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of athen-request@athenpro.org Sent: Wed 2/17/2010 8:59 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 49, Issue 14 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. one handed keyboarding (Robert Beach) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:58:25 -0600 From: Robert Beach Subject: [Athen] one handed keyboarding To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, It seems like I posted this question a couple of weeks ago, but I can't find any copy of it in my sent items, nor have I received any answers. So, here goes, possibly again. I have a student who needs to type one handed. Word prediction software won't work as he is going to be taking a keyboarding class which records every keystroke for points. I remember several years ago there was a program that would allow a person to type on a standard keyboard using either the left or right hand. To get the keys typically pressed by the opposite hand, you simply held down the spacebar while typing the matching key. For example, if you are typing left-handed and need the letter j, you would hold down the spacebar and press f. I cannot seem to find the software now. However, I have found a keyboard (a very pricy keyboard) that does the same thing. I would prefer the software approach as the student will be more likely to afford that at home. The keyboard is over $500. If I remember correctly, the software was less than $100 back then. Does anybody have any idea where I can find this software? If not, does anybody have another suggestion? Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 49, Issue 14 ************************************* From wink.harner at smcmail.maricopa.edu Tue Mar 2 18:11:07 2010 From: wink.harner at smcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Robert Beach's request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4B879C3A00001318@> Hi All Athenites, Don't forget the FIVE FINGER TYPIST program. That also allows you to pull up an onscreen keyboard layout so your eyes are on the screen (instead of the keyboard!). Very inexpensive solution. Wink >-- Original Message -- >Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:40:57 -0800 >From: "Catalina Colaci" >To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" >Subject: Re: [Athen] Athen Digest, Vol 49, Issue 14 >Reply-To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > >Hi, Robert et al >The device you might be thinking about might be at >http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2001/01/41001 > >Then there is the Frog Pad www.frogpad.com >Reviewed at >http://www.pdabuzz.com/Home/tabid/54/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4 >55/ReviewFrogPadTheonehandedkeyboard.aspx > >Another option could be a small keyboard -so the fingers don't have to >travel so far. -Little fingers keyboard is one (there is another one >similar at) http://www.aboutonehandtyping.com/littlefingers.html > >We did have a client a couple of years ago taking the Office >Administration program, who had damaged very badly his arms and >shoulders -repetitive movement at work-. We made the request that the >client be allowed to speech-type using Dragon. The client was able to >achieve 120 wpm (when 50 was the passing mark). If you are interested, I >can send you the letter/report I put together for the Dean of Trades & >Business Programs at that time >Have a nice day. > > > >Catalina Colaci >Coordinator >Learning Assistance Centre & Support Services for Students with >Disabilities >500 College Drive, PO Box 2799 >Whitehorse, Yukon Y1A 5K4 Canada > > > > t 867.668.8785 f 867.668.8814 www.yukoncollege.yk.ca > >start here. go anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Catherine M. Stager Kilcommons >Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:21 AM >To: athen@athenpro.org >Subject: RE: Athen Digest, Vol 49, Issue 14 > >Hi Robert, >We used Five Finger Typist software, but it does its own tracking and I >don't know how it would work within another program. There is a demo >available http://www.typeonehand.com/demo.html >Best regards, >Cath > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org on behalf of athen-request@athenpro.org >Sent: Wed 2/17/2010 8:59 AM >To: athen@athenpro.org >Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 49, Issue 14 > >Send Athen mailing list submissions to > athen@athenpro.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-request@athenpro.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-owner@athenpro.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. one handed keyboarding (Robert Beach) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:58:25 -0600 >From: Robert Beach >Subject: [Athen] one handed keyboarding >To: Access Technology Higher Education Network >Message-ID: > > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Hi all, > >It seems like I posted this question a couple of weeks ago, but I can't >find any copy of it in my sent items, nor have I received any answers. >So, here goes, possibly again. > >I have a student who needs to type one handed. Word prediction software >won't work as he is going to be taking a keyboarding class which records >every keystroke for points. > >I remember several years ago there was a program that would allow a >person to type on a standard keyboard using either the left or right >hand. To get the keys typically pressed by the opposite hand, you >simply held down the spacebar while typing the matching key. For >example, if you are typing left-handed and need the letter j, you would >hold down the spacebar and press f. > >I cannot seem to find the software now. However, I have found a >keyboard (a very pricy keyboard) that does the same thing. I would >prefer the software approach as the student will be more likely to >afford that at home. The keyboard is over $500. If I remember >correctly, the software was less than $100 back then. > >Does anybody have any idea where I can find this software? If not, does >anybody have another suggestion? > >Thanks. > > >Robert Lee Beach >Assistive Technology Specialist >Kansas City Kansas Community College >7250 State Avenue >Kansas City, KS 66112 >Phone: 913-288-7671 >Fax: 913-288-7678 >E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu > >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: >f7429ab/attachment.html> > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >End of Athen Digest, Vol 49, Issue 14 >************************************* > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org Ms. Wink Harner Interim Manager Disability Resources & Services South Mountain Community College Phoenix, AZ 602-243-8027 From alpuzz at msu.edu Wed Mar 3 06:06:59 2010 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Please Consider Signing the Wayfinder Access Petition References: Message-ID: Wayfinder Access is a screen reader friendly offshoot of the popular Wayfinder GPS application for mobile phones. Recently, Vodafone purchased Wayfinder and has apparently decided to kill off the accessible version of the app. A petition, protesting this decision is located here: http://bit.ly/9H3TaT please consider signing it and passing the link on to others. Thanks, --Al -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca Wed Mar 3 06:29:00 2010 From: asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca (Jennison Mark Asuncion) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Innformal accessibility meetup March 19 in the Bay Area Message-ID: Hello, With apologies for an off-topic post - I will be traveling in the San Francisco Bay Area on my way to the CSUN Conference and figured while there (most likely in Mountain View or close by), I would see if folks who work in the accessibility space would be up for an informal, after work meetup with the sole purpose of learning what people are up to. It is always nice to go "non-virtual" when the opportunity presents itself. When I put out the same invite last summer when visiting DC, I was pleasantly surprised at the turn-out. While I am finalizing an appropriately casual venue, if you are free and interested in such a gathering after work March 19, please e-mail me off-list. Jennison Jennison Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Wed Mar 3 08:13:13 2010 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS 11 and Word 2007 In-Reply-To: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A00029E632C@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> References: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A00029E632C@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: Jon, I just spoke with Denis from FS. He said the Styles dialog is a known issue and has been fixed in the up-coming release. It should be out in a couple of weeks. Interesting that Eric doesn't seem to know about this. He's been giving me quite the run around. BTW, in working with my sighted student worker, I realize that there is a difference between the commands: CTRL+SHIFT+S and CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S. The CTRL+SHIFT+S command (which Eric said is the proper one for 2007) takes you into the Apply Styles box which visually is in the upper left corner of the screen. It does not have all of the features of the other box. The ALT+CTRL+SHIFT+S command opens a different box which JAWS simply announces as Styles. This box is larger and visually located down the right side of the screen. This is the box I need as it has all of the options, buttons, check boxes, etc. Oh yes, the command ALT+O, S gives the same results as ALT+CTRL+SHIFT+S. Okay, that's about as much as I know. Hopefully the update will fix this for me. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS 11 and Word 2007 Robert, I am not having that problem with my JAWS 11 installation. You may want to try using the Styles hot-key which is CTRL+ALT++SHIFT+S to get into the styles window. That may help. I'll keep playing with Word to see if I can replicate your issue, but it seems very strange to me. Good Luck, Jon Jon P. Pielaet Program Assistant for Instructional Materials Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406-243-2243 Voice/Text 406-243-4461 Direct Line 406-243-5330 Fax From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:24 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] JAWS 11 and Word 2007 Hey all, Is it just me, or is there an issue with JAWS 11 and the Styles window in Word 2007? On the machines I have JAWS 11 installed on, when I press ALT+O then S to go into the Styles window, focus moves to the window then immediately moves back to the document. I cannot select any of the styles from the keyboard. On machines that I'm still running JAWS 10 on, the keyboard access works perfectly. Any ideas? Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Wed Mar 3 08:45:54 2010 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS 11 and Word 2007 In-Reply-To: References: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A00029E632C@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: <000c01cabaf0$fdbcd9d0$f9368d70$@com> You can also put the Apply Styles Pane/Ctrl + Shift + S in the Quick Access Toolbar which makes it function like the same item in the Formatting toolbar of Word 2003. I have instructions for this in a document on my web site. It is the document on how to set up Word/Office 2007 if you are using adaptive technology. I know this doesn't deal with the issue of the Styles Pane and access to it but it is another way of applying styles..and is fast. Cheers, Karen From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: March-03-10 11:13 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS 11 and Word 2007 Jon, I just spoke with Denis from FS. He said the Styles dialog is a known issue and has been fixed in the up-coming release. It should be out in a couple of weeks. Interesting that Eric doesn't seem to know about this. He's been giving me quite the run around. BTW, in working with my sighted student worker, I realize that there is a difference between the commands: CTRL+SHIFT+S and CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S. The CTRL+SHIFT+S command (which Eric said is the proper one for 2007) takes you into the Apply Styles box which visually is in the upper left corner of the screen. It does not have all of the features of the other box. The ALT+CTRL+SHIFT+S command opens a different box which JAWS simply announces as Styles. This box is larger and visually located down the right side of the screen. This is the box I need as it has all of the options, buttons, check boxes, etc. Oh yes, the command ALT+O, S gives the same results as ALT+CTRL+SHIFT+S. Okay, that's about as much as I know. Hopefully the update will fix this for me. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS 11 and Word 2007 Robert, I am not having that problem with my JAWS 11 installation. You may want to try using the Styles hot-key which is CTRL+ALT++SHIFT+S to get into the styles window. That may help. I'll keep playing with Word to see if I can replicate your issue, but it seems very strange to me. Good Luck, Jon Jon P. Pielaet Program Assistant for Instructional Materials Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406-243-2243 Voice/Text 406-243-4461 Direct Line 406-243-5330 Fax From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:24 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] JAWS 11 and Word 2007 Hey all, Is it just me, or is there an issue with JAWS 11 and the Styles window in Word 2007? On the machines I have JAWS 11 installed on, when I press ALT+O then S to go into the Styles window, focus moves to the window then immediately moves back to the document. I cannot select any of the styles from the keyboard. On machines that I'm still running JAWS 10 on, the keyboard access works perfectly. Any ideas? Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Wed Mar 3 08:46:15 2010 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS 11 and Word 2007 In-Reply-To: References: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A00029E632C@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: <001101cabaf1$0a588ae0$1f09a0a0$@com> Forgot the URL http://www.karlencommunications.com/MicrosoftOfficeAccessibility.html From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: March-03-10 11:13 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS 11 and Word 2007 Jon, I just spoke with Denis from FS. He said the Styles dialog is a known issue and has been fixed in the up-coming release. It should be out in a couple of weeks. Interesting that Eric doesn't seem to know about this. He's been giving me quite the run around. BTW, in working with my sighted student worker, I realize that there is a difference between the commands: CTRL+SHIFT+S and CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S. The CTRL+SHIFT+S command (which Eric said is the proper one for 2007) takes you into the Apply Styles box which visually is in the upper left corner of the screen. It does not have all of the features of the other box. The ALT+CTRL+SHIFT+S command opens a different box which JAWS simply announces as Styles. This box is larger and visually located down the right side of the screen. This is the box I need as it has all of the options, buttons, check boxes, etc. Oh yes, the command ALT+O, S gives the same results as ALT+CTRL+SHIFT+S. Okay, that's about as much as I know. Hopefully the update will fix this for me. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS 11 and Word 2007 Robert, I am not having that problem with my JAWS 11 installation. You may want to try using the Styles hot-key which is CTRL+ALT++SHIFT+S to get into the styles window. That may help. I'll keep playing with Word to see if I can replicate your issue, but it seems very strange to me. Good Luck, Jon Jon P. Pielaet Program Assistant for Instructional Materials Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406-243-2243 Voice/Text 406-243-4461 Direct Line 406-243-5330 Fax From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:24 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] JAWS 11 and Word 2007 Hey all, Is it just me, or is there an issue with JAWS 11 and the Styles window in Word 2007? On the machines I have JAWS 11 installed on, when I press ALT+O then S to go into the Styles window, focus moves to the window then immediately moves back to the document. I cannot select any of the styles from the keyboard. On machines that I'm still running JAWS 10 on, the keyboard access works perfectly. Any ideas? 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Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:46 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS 11 and Word 2007 You can also put the Apply Styles Pane/Ctrl + Shift + S in the Quick Access Toolbar which makes it function like the same item in the Formatting toolbar of Word 2003. I have instructions for this in a document on my web site. It is the document on how to set up Word/Office 2007 if you are using adaptive technology. I know this doesn't deal with the issue of the Styles Pane and access to it but it is another way of applying styles..and is fast. Cheers, Karen From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: March-03-10 11:13 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS 11 and Word 2007 Jon, I just spoke with Denis from FS. He said the Styles dialog is a known issue and has been fixed in the up-coming release. It should be out in a couple of weeks. Interesting that Eric doesn't seem to know about this. He's been giving me quite the run around. BTW, in working with my sighted student worker, I realize that there is a difference between the commands: CTRL+SHIFT+S and CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S. The CTRL+SHIFT+S command (which Eric said is the proper one for 2007) takes you into the Apply Styles box which visually is in the upper left corner of the screen. It does not have all of the features of the other box. The ALT+CTRL+SHIFT+S command opens a different box which JAWS simply announces as Styles. This box is larger and visually located down the right side of the screen. This is the box I need as it has all of the options, buttons, check boxes, etc. Oh yes, the command ALT+O, S gives the same results as ALT+CTRL+SHIFT+S. Okay, that's about as much as I know. Hopefully the update will fix this for me. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS 11 and Word 2007 Robert, I am not having that problem with my JAWS 11 installation. You may want to try using the Styles hot-key which is CTRL+ALT++SHIFT+S to get into the styles window. That may help. I'll keep playing with Word to see if I can replicate your issue, but it seems very strange to me. Good Luck, Jon Jon P. Pielaet Program Assistant for Instructional Materials Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406-243-2243 Voice/Text 406-243-4461 Direct Line 406-243-5330 Fax From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:24 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] JAWS 11 and Word 2007 Hey all, Is it just me, or is there an issue with JAWS 11 and the Styles window in Word 2007? On the machines I have JAWS 11 installed on, when I press ALT+O then S to go into the Styles window, focus moves to the window then immediately moves back to the document. I cannot select any of the styles from the keyboard. On machines that I'm still running JAWS 10 on, the keyboard access works perfectly. Any ideas? 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URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Thu Mar 4 15:20:22 2010 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reminder: Please Vote! Message-ID: <983BD8A7E8EA43EE929EEC274C29B4C7@htctu.fhda.edu> To the ATHEN membership: Just a reminder that members need to vote on (1) the slate of officers and (2) a proposed amendment. (See below.) Also, please remember that we can only accept votes from members who have paid their dues. I have received votes from a number of individuals whose votes do not count because of arrears in dues. If you are not sure about your standing, please contact Joe Humbert, our membership chair: johumber@iupui.edu (317) 274-4378 It is very important that you vote because we need a 2/3 majority in order to change the bylaws. In this case, not voting on the amendment is the same as voting no, so please vote! Slate of Officers President: Ron Stewart Vice President: Terry Thompson Treasurer: Heidi Scher Secretary: Susan Kelmer Proposed Amendment 4.5. Officers shall be elected annually by the membership. Elections will be held within the month prior to the annual meeting. Election results will be announced at the annual meeting, with terms to commence at the end of the meeting. Terms are for two years, with elections for President and Secretary occurring in even-numbered years. Elections for Vice President and Treasurer will be held in odd-numbered years. For your response, you can copy the text below and indicate yes or no to each item. Please copy both Dan Comden and myself on the e-mail danc@washington.edu; gdietrich@htctu.net . --NOTE: Please do *not* just hit reply and respond to the ATHEN list. In order for your vote to count, you must respond to both Dan and me by April 1, 2010. Thank you! President: Vice President: Treasurer: Secretary: Proposed Amendment: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The HTCTU provides leadership, training, and support to the California Community Colleges in using technology to promote the success of students with disabilities. There is no success without access... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 49034 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Fri Mar 5 07:46:24 2010 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] vendor query Message-ID: Hello all, I'm needing to purchase Acrobat Pro for my laptop. Since it isn't a college machine, I can't install college licensed software on it, even though I'm using it for college related presentations. Anyway, my student worker found the program at Baseline Software for $134. The price at Best Buy and CompUSA is $450. My question is, has anybody every used Baseline Software? Are they trust worthy? My niece purchased some software online before, then was not able to register it and use it because it was already registered in somebody else's name. She was never able to get her money back or get the software. Thanks for any pointers. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu Fri Mar 5 07:52:58 2010 From: jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu (Pielaet, Jon) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] vendor query In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002A6738A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Hi all, I don't know about Baseline Software but Newegg.com is trustworthy and they have it for $139.99. Jon Jon P. Pielaet Program Assistant for Instructional Materials Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406-243-2243 Voice/Text 406-243-4461 Direct Line 406-243-5330 Fax From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:46 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; AlternateMedia Subject: [Athen] vendor query Hello all, I'm needing to purchase Acrobat Pro for my laptop. Since it isn't a college machine, I can't install college licensed software on it, even though I'm using it for college related presentations. Anyway, my student worker found the program at Baseline Software for $134. The price at Best Buy and CompUSA is $450. My question is, has anybody every used Baseline Software? Are they trust worthy? My niece purchased some software online before, then was not able to register it and use it because it was already registered in somebody else's name. She was never able to get her money back or get the software. Thanks for any pointers. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Fri Mar 5 07:53:13 2010 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] vendor query In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C040F3D05@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Hi, Robert. Does your university have an option to purchase "academic" priced software for personal machines as opposed to the college licenses for college-owned machines? That is often an option for both students and employees and keeps you inside the safe university purchasing system. If that isn't an option, I _think_ AcademicSuperstore.com is reputable but haven't had need to purchase from them in a long time. Academic pricing there for Adobe Pro 9 starts at $70 and goes up depending on the licensing you are eligible for. Hope this helps, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternate Format Program Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:46 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Alternate Media Subject: [Athen] vendor query Hello all, I'm needing to purchase Acrobat Pro for my laptop. Since it isn't a college machine, I can't install college licensed software on it, even though I'm using it for college related presentations. Anyway, my student worker found the program at Baseline Software for $134. The price at Best Buy and CompUSA is $450. My question is, has anybody every used Baseline Software? Are they trust worthy? My niece purchased some software online before, then was not able to register it and use it because it was already registered in somebody else's name. She was never able to get her money back or get the software. Thanks for any pointers. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu Fri Mar 5 07:54:48 2010 From: jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu (Pielaet, Jon) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] vendor query In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002A6738D@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Alright, Sorry about that everyone that is the upgrade price on newegg.com. Robert you should make sure Baseline is selling the full version as well. Jon Jon P. Pielaet Program Assistant for Instructional Materials Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406-243-2243 Voice/Text 406-243-4461 Direct Line 406-243-5330 Fax From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:46 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; AlternateMedia Subject: [Athen] vendor query Hello all, I'm needing to purchase Acrobat Pro for my laptop. Since it isn't a college machine, I can't install college licensed software on it, even though I'm using it for college related presentations. Anyway, my student worker found the program at Baseline Software for $134. The price at Best Buy and CompUSA is $450. My question is, has anybody every used Baseline Software? Are they trust worthy? My niece purchased some software online before, then was not able to register it and use it because it was already registered in somebody else's name. She was never able to get her money back or get the software. Thanks for any pointers. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Fri Mar 5 07:57:34 2010 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] vendor query In-Reply-To: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002A6738A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> References: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002A6738A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: Awesome! I'll go check it out there. I've used them before and trust them. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 9:53 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] vendor query Hi all, I don't know about Baseline Software but Newegg.com is trustworthy and they have it for $139.99. Jon Jon P. Pielaet Program Assistant for Instructional Materials Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406-243-2243 Voice/Text 406-243-4461 Direct Line 406-243-5330 Fax From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:46 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; AlternateMedia Subject: [Athen] vendor query Hello all, I'm needing to purchase Acrobat Pro for my laptop. Since it isn't a college machine, I can't install college licensed software on it, even though I'm using it for college related presentations. Anyway, my student worker found the program at Baseline Software for $134. The price at Best Buy and CompUSA is $450. My question is, has anybody every used Baseline Software? Are they trust worthy? My niece purchased some software online before, then was not able to register it and use it because it was already registered in somebody else's name. She was never able to get her money back or get the software. Thanks for any pointers. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Fri Mar 5 08:00:23 2010 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] vendor query In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002001cabc7c$f6ad9ca0$e408d5e0$@com> Can't you get the academic pricing for it at your campus bookstore? From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: March-05-10 10:46 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Alternate Media Subject: [Athen] vendor query Hello all, I'm needing to purchase Acrobat Pro for my laptop. Since it isn't a college machine, I can't install college licensed software on it, even though I'm using it for college related presentations. Anyway, my student worker found the program at Baseline Software for $134. The price at Best Buy and CompUSA is $450. My question is, has anybody every used Baseline Software? Are they trust worthy? My niece purchased some software online before, then was not able to register it and use it because it was already registered in somebody else's name. She was never able to get her money back or get the software. Thanks for any pointers. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Fri Mar 5 08:05:46 2010 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] vendor query In-Reply-To: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002A6738A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> References: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002A6738A@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: Shucks,. That price was for the upgrade, not the full version. Thanks though. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 9:53 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] vendor query Hi all, I don't know about Baseline Software but Newegg.com is trustworthy and they have it for $139.99. Jon Jon P. Pielaet Program Assistant for Instructional Materials Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406-243-2243 Voice/Text 406-243-4461 Direct Line 406-243-5330 Fax From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:46 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; AlternateMedia Subject: [Athen] vendor query Hello all, I'm needing to purchase Acrobat Pro for my laptop. Since it isn't a college machine, I can't install college licensed software on it, even though I'm using it for college related presentations. Anyway, my student worker found the program at Baseline Software for $134. The price at Best Buy and CompUSA is $450. My question is, has anybody every used Baseline Software? Are they trust worthy? My niece purchased some software online before, then was not able to register it and use it because it was already registered in somebody else's name. She was never able to get her money back or get the software. Thanks for any pointers. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nettiet at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 08:12:04 2010 From: nettiet at gmail.com (Nettie Fischer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] vendor query In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good morning Robert, Have you checked out Nuance's pdf software, a review can be found at http://www.crn.com/software/206900460;jsessionid=QN3QSABJI0XMLQE1GHRSKHWATMY32JVN I believe the name is Nuance PDF professional. The price is around 195.00 and, I believe you an download a trial version to see if it fulfills its claims to be as good as acrobat. -- Nettie Fischer, ATP nettieT, ATP Consultants Elk Grove, CA On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Robert Beach wrote: > Hello all, > > > > I?m needing to purchase Acrobat Pro for my laptop. Since it isn?t a > college machine, I can?t install college licensed software on it, even > though I?m using it for college related presentations. > > > > Anyway, my student worker found the program at Baseline Software for $134. > The price at Best Buy and CompUSA is $450. > > > > My question is, has anybody every used Baseline Software? Are they trust > worthy? My niece purchased some software online before, then was not able > to register it and use it because it was already registered in somebody > else?s name. She was never able to get her money back or get the > software. > > > > Thanks for any pointers. > > > > > > Robert Lee Beach > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Kansas City Kansas Community College > > 7250 State Avenue > > Kansas City, KS 66112 > > Phone: 913-288-7671 > > Fax: 913-288-7678 > > E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -- Nettie T. Fischer, ATP Assistive Technology Professional Nettiet, ATP Consultants www.nettietatpconsultants.com [916] 222-3492 Office (916) 704-1456 Cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Fri Mar 5 08:12:24 2010 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] vendor query In-Reply-To: <002001cabc7c$f6ad9ca0$e408d5e0$@com> References: <002001cabc7c$f6ad9ca0$e408d5e0$@com> Message-ID: Karen, The only version the book store can get at the academic price is Professional Extended, which I've not used. I'm not sure of the differences nor do I know how accessible it is with screen readers. Any thoughts? Have you tried it? Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:00 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] vendor query Can't you get the academic pricing for it at your campus bookstore? From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: March-05-10 10:46 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Alternate Media Subject: [Athen] vendor query Hello all, I'm needing to purchase Acrobat Pro for my laptop. Since it isn't a college machine, I can't install college licensed software on it, even though I'm using it for college related presentations. Anyway, my student worker found the program at Baseline Software for $134. The price at Best Buy and CompUSA is $450. My question is, has anybody every used Baseline Software? Are they trust worthy? My niece purchased some software online before, then was not able to register it and use it because it was already registered in somebody else's name. She was never able to get her money back or get the software. Thanks for any pointers. 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If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. _____ From: Robert Beach [mailto:rbeach@KCKCC.EDU] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 9:46 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; AlternateMedia Subject: [Athen] vendor query Hello all, I'm needing to purchase Acrobat Pro for my laptop. Since it isn't a college machine, I can't install college licensed software on it, even though I'm using it for college related presentations. Anyway, my student worker found the program at Baseline Software for $134. The price at Best Buy and CompUSA is $450. My question is, has anybody every used Baseline Software? Are they trust worthy? My niece purchased some software online before, then was not able to register it and use it because it was already registered in somebody else's name. She was never able to get her money back or get the software. Thanks for any pointers. 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Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 9:46 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; AlternateMedia Subject: [Athen] vendor query Hello all, I'm needing to purchase Acrobat Pro for my laptop. Since it isn't a college machine, I can't install college licensed software on it, even though I'm using it for college related presentations. Anyway, my student worker found the program at Baseline Software for $134. The price at Best Buy and CompUSA is $450. My question is, has anybody every used Baseline Software? Are they trust worthy? My niece purchased some software online before, then was not able to register it and use it because it was already registered in somebody else's name. She was never able to get her money back or get the software. Thanks for any pointers. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Fax: 913-288-7678 E-Mail: rbeach@kckcc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ccolaci at yukoncollege.yk.ca Fri Mar 5 16:35:04 2010 From: ccolaci at yukoncollege.yk.ca (Catalina Colaci) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] vendor query In-Reply-To: <002001cabc7c$f6ad9ca0$e408d5e0$@com> References: <002001cabc7c$f6ad9ca0$e408d5e0$@com> Message-ID: Try www.studica.com There are discount prices for students, faculty and staff . I just checked and Adobe 9 is U$148.95 For Staff/faculty you can request a letter from your HR office saying you work at the institution; you can then send it to Studica and you'll be approved for a year (I think) It does not matter whether you buy it as a personal copy to work at home (I bought on my own a FileMaker Pro so I could design the templates after hours) I hope this will be helpful Have a great weekend. Catalina Colaci Coordinator Learning Assistance Centre & Support Services for Students with Disabilities 500 College Drive, PO Box 2799 Whitehorse, Yukon Y1A 5K4 Canada t 867.668.8785 f 867.668.8814 www.yukoncollege.yk.ca start here. go anywhere. ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:00 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] vendor query Can't you get the academic pricing for it at your campus bookstore? From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: March-05-10 10:46 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Alternate Media Subject: [Athen] vendor query Hello all, I'm needing to purchase Acrobat Pro for my laptop. Since it isn't a college machine, I can't install college licensed software on it, even though I'm using it for college related presentations. Anyway, my student worker found the program at Baseline Software for $134. The price at Best Buy and CompUSA is $450. My question is, has anybody every used Baseline Software? Are they trust worthy? My niece purchased some software online before, then was not able to register it and use it because it was already registered in somebody else's name. She was never able to get her money back or get the software. Thanks for any pointers. 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Below you will find the balloting process and I and the leadership of ATHEN thank you for your time and effort in this matter. I can also assure you we are working diligently to make sure that we make this kind of process as efficient as we possibly can. If you need any clarification or assistance in the balloting process please contact me directly via email at: ron@altformatsolutions.com Ron Stewart It is very important that you vote because we need a 2/3 majority in order to change the bylaws. In this case, not voting on the amendment is the same as voting no, so please vote! Slate of Officers President: Ron Stewart Vice President: Terry Thompson Treasurer: Heidi Scher Secretary: Susan Kelmer Proposed Amendment 4.5. Officers shall be elected annually by the membership. Elections will be held within the month prior to the annual meeting. Election results will be announced at the annual meeting, with terms to commence at the end of the meeting. Terms are for two years, with elections for President and Secretary occurring in even-numbered years. Elections for Vice President and Treasurer will be held in odd-numbered years. For your response, you can copy the text below and indicate yes or no to each item. Please copy both Dan Comden and myself on the e-mail danc@washington.edu; gdietrich@htctu.net . --NOTE: Please do *not* just hit reply and respond to the ATHEN list. In order for your vote to count, you must respond to both Dan and me by April 1, 2010. Thank you! President: Vice President: Treasurer: Secretary: Proposed Amendment: **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at altformatsolutions.com Tue Mar 9 06:59:15 2010 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: ATHEN elections Message-ID: <05ff01cabf99$165919c0$430b4d40$@com> Several of you have pointed out to me that my email about the elections was confusing. You need to email your election response to Dan Comden and Gaeir Dietrich in order for it to be valid. danc@washington.edu; gdietrich@htctu.net Sorry for any confusion I may have created. Ron On Mar 8, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen we need your assistance in completing the ATHEN annual elections as well as passing a crucial modification to the bylaws that will make this entire process much more efficient in the future. If you are a member in current standing would you please cast your ballot in the current ATHEN election process, if you are not a member in current standing would you please consider bringing your membership current by visiting our membership website at:http://athenpro.org/member. Below you will find the balloting process and I and the leadership of ATHEN thank you for your time and effort in this matter. I can also assure you we are working diligently to make sure that we make this kind of process as efficient as we possibly can. If you need any clarification or assistance in the balloting process please contact me directly via email at: ron@altformatsolutions.com Ron Stewart It is very important that you vote because we need a 2/3 majority in order to change the bylaws. In this case, not voting on the amendment is the same as voting no, so please vote! Slate of Officers President: Ron Stewart Vice President: Terry Thompson Treasurer: Heidi Scher Secretary: Susan Kelmer Proposed Amendment 4.5. Officers shall be elected annually by the membership. Elections will be held within the month prior to the annual meeting. Election results will be announced at the annual meeting, with terms to commence at the end of the meeting. Terms are for two years, with elections for President and Secretary occurring in even-numbered years. Elections for Vice President and Treasurer will be held in odd-numbered years. For your response, you can copy the text below and indicate yes or no to each item. Please copy both Dan Comden and myself on the e-maildanc@washington.edu; gdietrich@htctu.net . --NOTE: Please do *not* just hit reply and respond to the ATHEN list. In order for your vote to count, you must respond to both Dan and me by April 1, 2010. Thank you! President: Vice President: Treasurer: Secretary: Proposed Amendment: **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Tue Mar 9 14:13:52 2010 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Request for Papers - Accessing Higher Ground 2010 Message-ID: <20100309151352.AQB76193@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Dear ATHEN Colleagues: It's that time of year again. We're now accepting proposals for the Nov. 15-19, 2010 conference. In addition to proposals, we are also looking for individuals to participate on the review committees as per last year. If you're interested in reviewing proposals, please let me know. More information on the rfp can be found below. Request for Papers B April 2 deadline for first round of submissions Accessing Higher Ground: Accessible Media, Web & Technology Conference November 15-19, 2010 Westin Westminster Hotel B Westminster, Colorado Keynote Speaker: George Kerscher, Ph.D., Secretary General of the DAISY Consortium Don't Miss the First Round Deadline The University of Colorado at Boulder invites papers for its 13th annual Accessing Higher Ground Conference. The conference focuses on the implementation and benefits of Assistive Technology and Accessible Media in the university and college setting. Other topic areas cover legal and policy issues, including ADA and 508 compliance. The creation of accessible media and information resources, including Web pages and library resources are a particular focus of the event. For the main conference, accepted out of town speakers will receive a 10% discount off conference registration fees. Local speakers will receive a 5% discount. Additional incentives are provided for accepted pre conference proposals. And ATHEN members in good standing receive an additional discount. For more information, use the contact information below. To see a list of past workshops or obtain a presenter application form (available March 5), visit our conference page at the URL below. For the first round rfp, please e mail the completed proposal form (available at: http://www.colorado.edu/ATconference/speaker_info2010.html#pro posal) to Howard Kramer (hkramer@colorado.edu) at CU Boulder by April 2. A second round rfp, if needed, will have a deadline of May 7. You can also request a conference registration packet (mailed in August) at the URL below. Contact Information Disability Services: 303-492-8671 e-mail: hkramer@colorado.edu Conference URL: http://www.colorado.edu/ATconference From mpthornton at ualr.edu Wed Mar 10 09:34:06 2010 From: mpthornton at ualr.edu (Melanie P Thornton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Flash Video Message-ID: <4B97D80E.6000108@gmail.com> Hi all. Is anyone working to create accessible Flash videos. We would love to see some examples of set-ups that have the option to show/hide captions, that are keyboard accessible across browsers, and if anyone has them, that have the option to show/hide interpreter (even if that actually means swapping out one video for another). Anyone doing this and willing to send me links to examples? Thanks! Melanie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not sure if you can do the interpreter, but you can embed it inside another flash movie http://ncam.wgbh.org/invent_build/web_multimedia/tools-guidelines/ccplayer Joe Humbert, Assistive Technology and Web Accessibility Specialist UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E Indianapolis, IN 46202 Office Phone: (317) 274-4378 Cell Phone: (317) 644-6824 johumber@iupui.edu http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Melanie P Thornton Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:34 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Flash Video Hi all. Is anyone working to create accessible Flash videos. We would love to see some examples of set-ups that have the option to show/hide captions, that are keyboard accessible across browsers, and if anyone has them, that have the option to show/hide interpreter (even if that actually means swapping out one video for another). Anyone doing this and willing to send me links to examples? Thanks! Melanie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Wed Mar 10 09:47:08 2010 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Flash Video In-Reply-To: <4B97D80E.6000108@gmail.com> References: <4B97D80E.6000108@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002e01cac079$b4a94b50$1dfbe1f0$@com> Take a look at Course Avenue as they are doing great work in this area: http://www.courseavenue.com/default.aspx Not sure if they have the interpreter capability. Cheers, Karen From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Melanie P Thornton Sent: March-10-10 12:34 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Flash Video Hi all. Is anyone working to create accessible Flash videos. We would love to see some examples of set-ups that have the option to show/hide captions, that are keyboard accessible across browsers, and if anyone has them, that have the option to show/hide interpreter (even if that actually means swapping out one video for another). Anyone doing this and willing to send me links to examples? Thanks! Melanie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Wed Mar 10 10:52:55 2010 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Flash Video In-Reply-To: <4B97D80E.6000108@gmail.com> References: <4B97D80E.6000108@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B97EA87.2010502@stanford.edu> > Is anyone working to create accessible Flash videos Do you mean videos that are being delivered via the Flash player or do you mean a Flash-based video? For instance, a majority of the videos on YouTube are delivered via the Flash player. The Flash player is just used to present the video as well as allow for some interactivity. In the captioning system we have put together at Stanford, we decided to use the JW FLV player, which is a Flash-based media player. It has decent support for keyboard accessibility as well as supporting captioning, audio descriptions, and various media file formats. We customized the JW FLV Player to include a "CC" button by default. We need to do some additional work to get multi-line support. Here is an example of one of our test pages: http://www.stanford.edu/~skeegan/video/istanford/stanfordapp.html I still keep looking at the ccPlayer from NCAM (see below) as well as the options that are being developed in HTML5. Another example that has been developed is by DO-IT at the University of Washington - they have a *very* cool model. One aspect that I like about their system as it includes search capability both across and within a video. They have options for different JW FLV Players as well as the YouTube player and for including buttons directly on the page to control the video. Here is an example of their system: http://www.washington.edu/doit/Video/Search/index.php?vid=1 Another player that I like is the ccPlayer from NCAM (http://ncam.wgbh.org/invent_build/web_multimedia/tools-guidelines/ccplayer). Customizing the player requires some experience with Flash, but it looks like the documentation has gotten much better for making changes. If you have time to "re-skin" the interface, then this is another Flash-based media player to consider. One thing I really like is the ability to search within the video for information. All that being said, you could also have a class lecture session done completely in Flash that also includes videos as in the following example: http://ciswebs.smc.edu/cis1hitech/demo/CIS1ComputerConcepts.html I am not a big advocate of lectures being done completely in Flash (as in the example above), but they have made it work and so is certainly an example to consider. In most of the examples above, I have just addressed captioning as it relates to Flash-based media players. You can also develop options to include someone doing ASL (by resizing the interface) and present both solutions. That would take a bit more development and would require someone who is knowledgeable in Flash programming. Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: skeegan.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 332 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU Wed Mar 10 12:22:07 2010 From: Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning Message-ID: <20100310132207.AQC48667@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Hello All: I have a number of videos I want to caption. I know a good deal about the different tools out there but I wanted to get feedback on the quickest way at this point, to caption material. The system that Sean & John demonstrated at AHG was very impressive but I don't know if this is open to those not affiliated with Stanford. It seems that YouTube has a tool for automatically generating captions or am I wrong on this. Anyway, thanks in advance for your feedback. -Howard From ea at emptech.info Wed Mar 10 12:27:33 2010 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Flash Video In-Reply-To: References: <4B97D80E.6000108@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001cac090$1def0df0$59cd29d0$@info> Xerte allows for the imbedding of videos with keyboard access to the player http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/index.htm We have also made JWplayer more readily keyboard accessible in any browser with the addition of some html code that anyone can copy - an example can be found on http://www.lexdis.org.uk/strategy/62 Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.org http://www.emptech.info From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Humbert, Joseph A Sent: 10 March 2010 17:38 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Flash Video ccPlayer from National Center on Accessible media is what we use. Not sure if you can do the interpreter, but you can embed it inside another flash movie http://ncam.wgbh.org/invent_build/web_multimedia/tools-guidelines/ccplayer Joe Humbert, Assistive Technology and Web Accessibility Specialist UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E Indianapolis, IN 46202 Office Phone: (317) 274-4378 Cell Phone: (317) 644-6824 johumber@iupui.edu http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Melanie P Thornton Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:34 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Flash Video Hi all. Is anyone working to create accessible Flash videos. We would love to see some examples of set-ups that have the option to show/hide captions, that are keyboard accessible across browsers, and if anyone has them, that have the option to show/hide interpreter (even if that actually means swapping out one video for another). Anyone doing this and willing to send me links to examples? Thanks! Melanie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Wed Mar 10 12:27:26 2010 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning In-Reply-To: <20100310132207.AQC48667@riddler.int.colorado.edu> References: <20100310132207.AQC48667@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C040F425E@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> I haven't tried it yet, but last night on NPR I heard an interview with YouTube's caption mastermind. He indicated that the new automatic captioning system is online and working; AND, although its speech-recognition system is anything but perfect, it offers a quick way for someone to caption a video, then go back and edit the transcript/caption file to clean up the errors made by the speech recognition process to end up with a cleanly captioned video with relatively little effort. It's on my list of things to try out when I have a few spare minutes... Hope this helps, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternate Format Program Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 1:22 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning Hello All: I have a number of videos I want to caption. I know a good deal about the different tools out there but I wanted to get feedback on the quickest way at this point, to caption material. The system that Sean & John demonstrated at AHG was very impressive but I don't know if this is open to those not affiliated with Stanford. It seems that YouTube has a tool for automatically generating captions or am I wrong on this. Anyway, thanks in advance for your feedback. -Howard _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 12:37:36 2010 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning In-Reply-To: <20100310132207.AQC48667@riddler.int.colorado.edu> References: <20100310132207.AQC48667@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <6e84aedd1003101237k7de1c1f7s26fc3ebfe808e2f2@mail.gmail.com> Do you want to do the work in house? Do you have a budget to work with? I send the captioning work out to Automatic Sync Technologies. I don't do large volumes so it is not very expensive. I think the rate now is $165 per media hour. You just upload the video to them through their website and they send the caption files back to you in 3 to 5 days. You can put a next day rush on it if you want to pay another $30. If you send a transcript of the video to them it is cheaper. Jeff Cleveland State On 3/10/10, Howard Kramer wrote: > Hello All: > > I have a number of videos I want to caption. I know a good deal > about the different tools out there but I wanted to get feedback > on the quickest way at this point, to caption material. The > system that Sean & John demonstrated at AHG was very impressive > but I don't know if this is open to those not affiliated with > Stanford. It seems that YouTube has a tool for automatically > generating captions or am I wrong on this. Anyway, thanks in > advance for your feedback. > > -Howard > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From nettiet at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 13:39:32 2010 From: nettiet at gmail.com (Nettie Fischer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Flash Video In-Reply-To: <4B97D80E.6000108@gmail.com> References: <4B97D80E.6000108@gmail.com> Message-ID: I would like to add to Melanie's request. I am on a non-profit Adapted Leisure board and we need to modify the website so it is accessible. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Nettie On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Melanie P Thornton wrote: > Hi all. > > Is anyone working to create accessible Flash videos. We would love to see > some examples of set-ups that have the option to show/hide captions, that > are keyboard accessible across browsers, and if anyone has them, that have > the option to show/hide interpreter (even if tI ohat actually means swapping > out one video for another). > > Anyone doing this and willing to send me links to examples? > > Thanks! > > Melanie > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -- Nettie T. Fischer, ATP Assistive Technology Professional Nettiet, ATP Consultants www.nettietatpconsultants.com [916] 222-3492 Office (916) 704-1456 Cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smartin at necc.mass.edu Thu Mar 11 05:52:22 2010 From: smartin at necc.mass.edu (Martin, Susan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning In-Reply-To: <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C040F425E@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <20100310132207.AQC48667@riddler.int.colorado.edu> <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C040F425E@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: Hello- can you use the YouTube caption software to add captions and then bring that into another software program? Or does it only work in YouTube? Susan J. Martin M.Ed Associate Director Learning Accommodations Center Northern Essex Community College 100 Elliot Street, Haverhill MA 01830 978-556-3647 -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:27 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning I haven't tried it yet, but last night on NPR I heard an interview with YouTube's caption mastermind. He indicated that the new automatic captioning system is online and working; AND, although its speech-recognition system is anything but perfect, it offers a quick way for someone to caption a video, then go back and edit the transcript/caption file to clean up the errors made by the speech recognition process to end up with a cleanly captioned video with relatively little effort. It's on my list of things to try out when I have a few spare minutes... Hope this helps, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternate Format Program Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 1:22 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning Hello All: I have a number of videos I want to caption. I know a good deal about the different tools out there but I wanted to get feedback on the quickest way at this point, to caption material. The system that Sean & John demonstrated at AHG was very impressive but I don't know if this is open to those not affiliated with Stanford. It seems that YouTube has a tool for automatically generating captions or am I wrong on this. Anyway, thanks in advance for your feedback. -Howard _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From tschwanke at wisc.edu Thu Mar 11 06:39:12 2010 From: tschwanke at wisc.edu (Todd Schwanke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning In-Reply-To: References: <20100310132207.AQC48667@riddler.int.colorado.edu> <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C040F425E@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <4B990090.3050509@wisc.edu> Yes, you can export the caption file and use in other software. But, the export type is "SBV" which is a caption file format fairly specific to YouTube. Some caption software programs are starting to support this format. Otherwise you have to convert it first. I have found a few websites that do SBV to SRT (SubRip format) conversion, which is more widely supported. Keep in mind: * videos uploaded are public by default * videos are limited to 10 minutes unless you have access to one of the special accounts (e.g. one per edu address) that have capabilities for longer videos. On 3/11/2010 7:52 AM, Martin, Susan wrote: > Hello- can you use the YouTube caption software to add captions and then bring that into another software program? Or does it only work in YouTube? > > Susan J. Martin M.Ed > Associate Director > > Learning Accommodations Center > Northern Essex Community College > 100 Elliot Street, Haverhill MA 01830 > 978-556-3647 > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:27 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning > > I haven't tried it yet, but last night on NPR I heard an interview with > YouTube's caption mastermind. He indicated that the new automatic > captioning system is online and working; AND, although its > speech-recognition system is anything but perfect, it offers a quick way > for someone to caption a video, then go back and edit the > transcript/caption file to clean up the errors made by the speech > recognition process to end up with a cleanly captioned video with > relatively little effort. It's on my list of things to try out when I > have a few spare minutes... > > Hope this helps, > Teresa > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. > Supervisor, Alternate Format Program > Disability Resource Center > Arizona State University > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Howard Kramer > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 1:22 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning > > Hello All: > > I have a number of videos I want to caption. I know a good deal about > the different tools out there but I wanted to get feedback on the > quickest way at this point, to caption material. The system that Sean& > John demonstrated at AHG was very impressive but I don't know if this is > open to those not affiliated with Stanford. It seems that YouTube has a > tool for automatically generating captions or am I wrong on this. > Anyway, thanks in advance for your feedback. > > -Howard > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From sykesje at gvsu.edu Thu Mar 11 06:40:22 2010 From: sykesje at gvsu.edu (Jeffrey Sykes) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning In-Reply-To: <20100310132207.AQC48667@riddler.int.colorado.edu> References: <20100310132207.AQC48667@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <4B98BA85.1839.0089.0@gvsu.edu> Hi Howard, We are using an outside service - Automatic Sync Technologies - to generate the caption file. They employ transcribers who can create a transcript, or you can submit your own transcript. The typical turnaround time is 3 days when they create the transcript. Creating the caption file in AST's system takes just minutes, so if you submit your own transcript you can have results very quickly. We then embed the caption file on the video to produce an open captioned video here in-house. If you are captioning online media, Overstream can host the caption file and link to the video, as long as the video is on supported sites. Jeff Regards, Jeff Sykes Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Support Services Division of Inclusion and Equity Grand Valley State University >>> Howard Kramer 03/10/2010 3:22 PM >>> Hello All: I have a number of videos I want to caption. I know a good deal about the different tools out there but I wanted to get feedback on the quickest way at this point, to caption material. The system that Sean & John demonstrated at AHG was very impressive but I don't know if this is open to those not affiliated with Stanford. It seems that YouTube has a tool for automatically generating captions or am I wrong on this. Anyway, thanks in advance for your feedback. -Howard _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From mpthornton at ualr.edu Thu Mar 11 07:05:11 2010 From: mpthornton at ualr.edu (Melanie P Thornton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning In-Reply-To: References: <20100310132207.AQC48667@riddler.int.colorado.edu> <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C040F425E@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <4B9906A7.9000403@gmail.com> Regarding YouTube, I've played around with it a bit. If you are trying to do something quickly, and you create a transcript and upload it, it does a pretty good job of matching up the transcript with the content. However, after trying to fix the errors to get it more to my satisfaction, I found that it was easier to just use Easy YouTube Caption Creator by Accessify (http://accessify.com/tools-and-wizards/accessibility-tools/easy-youtube-caption-creator/) to add the timings. I do suggest it for people who would otherwise not add captions, but for those of us who are committed to adding captions and having them be clean and match up well, there is no substitution for doing the extra work. That said, it is amazing progress...and I expect to see it become even better and easier. Melanie Martin, Susan wrote: > Hello- can you use the YouTube caption software to add captions and then bring that into another software program? Or does it only work in YouTube? > > Susan J. Martin M.Ed > Associate Director > > Learning Accommodations Center > Northern Essex Community College > 100 Elliot Street, Haverhill MA 01830 > 978-556-3647 > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:27 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning > > I haven't tried it yet, but last night on NPR I heard an interview with > YouTube's caption mastermind. He indicated that the new automatic > captioning system is online and working; AND, although its > speech-recognition system is anything but perfect, it offers a quick way > for someone to caption a video, then go back and edit the > transcript/caption file to clean up the errors made by the speech > recognition process to end up with a cleanly captioned video with > relatively little effort. It's on my list of things to try out when I > have a few spare minutes... > > Hope this helps, > Teresa > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. > Supervisor, Alternate Format Program > Disability Resource Center > Arizona State University > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Howard Kramer > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 1:22 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning > > Hello All: > > I have a number of videos I want to caption. I know a good deal about > the different tools out there but I wanted to get feedback on the > quickest way at this point, to caption material. The system that Sean & > John demonstrated at AHG was very impressive but I don't know if this is > open to those not affiliated with Stanford. It seems that YouTube has a > tool for automatically generating captions or am I wrong on this. > Anyway, thanks in advance for your feedback. > > -Howard > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tft at u.washington.edu Thu Mar 11 07:15:27 2010 From: tft at u.washington.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning In-Reply-To: <20100310132207.AQC48667@riddler.int.colorado.edu> References: <20100310132207.AQC48667@riddler.int.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <14C6C8313F1842459FAAD0B3FEB9E42C41850739@ads-mbx-02.exchange.washington.edu> Hi Howard, There are quite a few free tools available that support the captioning process. I reviewed some of them on my blog a while back: http://terrillthompson.com/2009/08/free-tools-for-captioning-youtube.html At the UW we ultimately settled on http://dotsub.com as our tool of choice, and had a team of students doing the captioning. With DotSub you can caption YouTube videos, but you can also upload videos directly without going through YouTube. DotSub has some nice features available for managing a group like this, and that's the tool used by the TED Open Translation Project, which has over 2000 volunteers captioning and subtitling their videos: http://www.ted.com/OpenTranslationProject Whatever tool you choose, if you need to convert the output, vSync provides a nice converter for that: http://vsync.tunezee.com/convertCaption.html Keep us posted on how you decide to proceed - it's good to hear how others are tackling this issue. Regards, Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Technology Services University of Washington tft@u.washington.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:22 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning Hello All: I have a number of videos I want to caption. I know a good deal about the different tools out there but I wanted to get feedback on the quickest way at this point, to caption material. The system that Sean & John demonstrated at AHG was very impressive but I don't know if this is open to those not affiliated with Stanford. It seems that YouTube has a tool for automatically generating captions or am I wrong on this. Anyway, thanks in advance for your feedback. -Howard _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Thu Mar 11 07:39:03 2010 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? Message-ID: Anyone have recommendations for a PaperPort-like single-document scanner that will sit unobtrusively on a desktop and allow scanning of single sheets or cards or other information to turn into either PDF's or JPG's to attach to electronic records? I have some money to spend and would like to have something like this but honestly haven't looked in years. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From goodman at eri-wi.org Thu Mar 11 08:22:45 2010 From: goodman at eri-wi.org (Phillip Goodman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9CC957413BE846D2B8746068F68C55C4@emp24> The Canon Canoscan LIDE series (100, 200, and 700) have a very slim profile and are fast with good quality scans. They run from $63 to $133. I think they still come with the Paperport software but it has been a while since I ordered one. They also run off USB power so you don't have to find an extra plug and are mobile for laptop use... Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTL Assistive Technology Consultant Employment Resources, Inc. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. _____ From: Kelmer, Susan M. [mailto:SKelmer@stlcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:39 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? Anyone have recommendations for a PaperPort-like single-document scanner that will sit unobtrusively on a desktop and allow scanning of single sheets or cards or other information to turn into either PDF's or JPG's to attach to electronic records? I have some money to spend and would like to have something like this but honestly haven't looked in years. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5844 bytes Desc: not available URL: From RAYMUNDO at linnbenton.edu Thu Mar 11 08:41:20 2010 From: RAYMUNDO at linnbenton.edu (Carol Raymundo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? In-Reply-To: <9CC957413BE846D2B8746068F68C55C4@emp24> References: <9CC957413BE846D2B8746068F68C55C4@emp24> Message-ID: <4B98ACB0.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> I agree, all of our single scanners are the Lide series and I've never had any problems with them. Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward. >>> "Phillip Goodman" 3/11/2010 8:22 AM >>> The Canon Canoscan LIDE series (100, 200, and 700) have a very slim profile and are fast with good quality scans. They run from $63 to $133. I think they still come with the Paperport software but it has been a while since I ordered one. They also run off USB power so you don't have to find an extra plug and are mobile for laptop use... Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTL Assistive Technology Consultant Employment Resources, Inc. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From: Kelmer, Susan M. [mailto:SKelmer@stlcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:39 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? Anyone have recommendations for a PaperPort-like single-document scanner that will sit unobtrusively on a desktop and allow scanning of single sheets or cards or other information to turn into either PDF's or JPG's to attach to electronic records? I have some money to spend and would like to have something like this but honestly haven't looked in years. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 5844 bytes Desc: not available URL: From SKelmer at stlcc.edu Thu Mar 11 08:53:04 2010 From: SKelmer at stlcc.edu (Kelmer, Susan M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? In-Reply-To: <4B98ACB0.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> References: <9CC957413BE846D2B8746068F68C55C4@emp24> <4B98ACB0.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> Message-ID: I need something smaller than a flatbed. Like the old PaperPort scanners used to be. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:41 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? I agree, all of our single scanners are the Lide series and I've never had any problems with them. Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward. >>> "Phillip Goodman" 3/11/2010 8:22 AM >>> The Canon Canoscan LIDE series (100, 200, and 700) have a very slim profile and are fast with good quality scans. They run from $63 to $133. I think they still come with the Paperport software but it has been a while since I ordered one. They also run off USB power so you don't have to find an extra plug and are mobile for laptop use... Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTL Assistive Technology Consultant Employment Resources, Inc. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________ From: Kelmer, Susan M. [mailto:SKelmer@stlcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:39 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? Anyone have recommendations for a PaperPort-like single-document scanner that will sit unobtrusively on a desktop and allow scanning of single sheets or cards or other information to turn into either PDF's or JPG's to attach to electronic records? I have some money to spend and would like to have something like this but honestly haven't looked in years. 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If you have a transcript of the video, one solution would be to upload the transcript and let YouTube perform the auto-timing function to generate a time-stamped file. You can then download that time-stamped file. The time-stamped file from YouTube (using the auto-timing function) will be a "SBV" file. The recent version of MovCaptioner will allow you to import a SBV file where you can make changes to the timing, etc. MovCaptioner is just a captioning application for the Mac platform ($40, but has free trial period). You can import a SBV file and then export a SRT file - Todd S. mentioned this workflow in a previous e-mail. MovCaptioner supports *a lot* of different file formats to import and export. If you already have a captioning application that supports the SRT format (but not SBV), then you can use this Website to convert YouTube's SBV to the SRT format - http://www.gidsgoldberg.com/sbv_docs_converter.shtml . 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Best, ken ------------------------------------------------------- Ken Petri Program Director OSU Web Accessibility Center 102D Pomerene Hall 1760 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43210 Phone: (614) 292-1760 Fax: (614) 292-4190 mailto:petri.1@osu.edu ------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Nettie Fischer wrote: > I would like to add to Melanie's request. I am on a non-profit Adapted > Leisure board and we need to modify the website so it is accessible. Any > information will be greatly appreciated. > > Nettie > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Melanie P Thornton wrote: > >> Hi all. >> >> Is anyone working to create accessible Flash videos. We would love to see >> some examples of set-ups that have the option to show/hide captions, that >> are keyboard accessible across browsers, and if anyone has them, that have >> the option to show/hide interpreter (even if tI ohat actually means swapping >> out one video for another). >> >> >> Anyone doing this and willing to send me links to examples? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Melanie >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> > > > -- > Nettie T. Fischer, ATP > Assistive Technology Professional > Nettiet, ATP Consultants > www.nettietatpconsultants.com > [916] 222-3492 Office > (916) 704-1456 Cell > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer.atsol at gmail.com Thu Mar 11 10:39:28 2010 From: hkramer.atsol at gmail.com (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning In-Reply-To: <4B992E2A.3050100@stanford.edu> References: <20100310132207.AQC48667@riddler.int.colorado.edu> <0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C040F425E@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <4B992E2A.3050100@stanford.edu> Message-ID: Sean, Terry, John, et al, Thank you for that great feedback. I've been in contact with AST. I'll be checking out the other resources also. I've tried transcribing one of the videos myself. I see what a task this is. I remember Dick Banks used to demonstrate using voice recognition to transcribe a file - not directly from the original speaker, but by repeating the audio into Dragon Dictate instead of using the keyboard. Any recommendations on processes/software for doing the transcribing would be most welcome. [Sean, on a side note, can you add hkramer.atsol@gmail.com to the listserv. My emails directly from gmail get bounced back even though it's supposed to mimic my colorado.edu address.] Thanks, Howard On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Sean J Keegan wrote: > > can you use the YouTube caption software > > to add captions and then bring that into > > another software program? > > The short answer is Yes. If you have a transcript of the video, one > solution would be to upload the transcript and let YouTube perform the > auto-timing function to generate a time-stamped file. You can then download > that time-stamped file. > > The time-stamped file from YouTube (using the auto-timing function) will be > a "SBV" file. The recent version of MovCaptioner will allow you to import a > SBV file where you can make changes to the timing, etc. MovCaptioner is just > a captioning application for the Mac platform ($40, but has free trial > period). You can import a SBV file and then export a SRT file - Todd S. > mentioned this workflow in a previous e-mail. MovCaptioner supports *a lot* > of different file formats to import and export. > > If you already have a captioning application that supports the SRT format > (but not SBV), then you can use this Website to convert YouTube's SBV to the > SRT format - > http://www.gidsgoldberg.com/sbv_docs_converter.shtml . Then you can make > any changes, export a SRT file from your captioning application, and upload > back to the YouTube presentation. > > > Take care, > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 Disability Services Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Thu Mar 11 10:56:26 2010 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning In-Reply-To: References: <20100310132207.AQC48667@riddler.int.colorado.edu><0D41DFE921DACE439289A5E629BDB66C040F425E@EX04.asurite.ad.asu.edu><4B992E2A.3050100@stanford.edu> Message-ID: > I remember Dick Banks used to demonstrate using voice recognition to transcribe a file - not directly from the original speaker, but by repeating the audio into Dragon Dictate instead of using the keyboard. Yes, a trained Dragon user can be a great transcriptionist. I have often thought that it would make a great career for anyone who uses Dragon well and is looking for work. A proficient Dragon user can rival steno users, and that's saying a lot! Tips: Set Dragon to put two spaces after a period. It helps the captioning software to recognize the symbol. Train any unusual vocabulary beforehand so that recognition is improved. (In the Accuracy Center window, choose "View or Edit your vocabulary.") If there is a list of words that Dragon does not know, add them beforehand and train as you add. (Choose "Add a list of words to your vocabulary" in the Accuracy Center or go to Words > Import.) Only create a new paragraph when the speaker changes or you add sound information, and do not double space between paragraphs. See the Captioning Key from DCMP for information on how to include relevant sounds in your transcript. Rip the audio from the video and put it onto a Dictaphone (if you can still find one). You can also use a digital recorder, but Dictaphones are made to allow easy forward and backward navigation. Good luck! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The HTCTU provides leadership, training, and support to the California Community Colleges in using technology to promote the success of students with disabilities. There is no success without access... _____ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:39 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Help w\ Captioning Sean, Terry, John, et al, Thank you for that great feedback. I've been in contact with AST. I'll be checking out the other resources also. I've tried transcribing one of the videos myself. I see what a task this is. I remember Dick Banks used to demonstrate using voice recognition to transcribe a file - not directly from the original speaker, but by repeating the audio into Dragon Dictate instead of using the keyboard. Any recommendations on processes/software for doing the transcribing would be most welcome. Thanks, Howard On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Sean J Keegan wrote: > can you use the YouTube caption software > to add captions and then bring that into > another software program? The short answer is Yes. If you have a transcript of the video, one solution would be to upload the transcript and let YouTube perform the auto-timing function to generate a time-stamped file. You can then download that time-stamped file. The time-stamped file from YouTube (using the auto-timing function) will be a "SBV" file. The recent version of MovCaptioner will allow you to import a SBV file where you can make changes to the timing, etc. MovCaptioner is just a captioning application for the Mac platform ($40, but has free trial period). You can import a SBV file and then export a SRT file - Todd S. mentioned this workflow in a previous e-mail. MovCaptioner supports *a lot* of different file formats to import and export. If you already have a captioning application that supports the SRT format (but not SBV), then you can use this Website to convert YouTube's SBV to the SRT format - http://www.gidsgoldberg.com/sbv_docs_converter.shtml . Then you can make any changes, export a SRT file from your captioning application, and upload back to the YouTube presentation. Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mpthornton at ualr.edu Thu Mar 11 12:03:51 2010 From: mpthornton at ualr.edu (Melanie P Thornton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Flash Video In-Reply-To: References: <4B97D80E.6000108@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B994CA7.2070700@gmail.com> Thank you so much, everyone. These resources are so helpful. E.A., I love the fact that you have resolved the browser issue. I always feel like it is difficult to say something is accessible if it does not work across browser platforms. That's great! These examples will give us some great ones to share with the folks on campus who will be developing this. I so appreciate those of you who are leading the way in developing more usable options for players and then sharing out that code. Awesome! Melanie Ken Petri wrote: > Our in-house version, based on JW FLV Player: > > http://wac.osu.edu/examples/jwplayercontrols/ > > Note that we will release an updated version in June that will make it > possible include multiple videos on a page and fix some outstanding > issues with display (ghosting of the audio description icon, > non-disappearance of the Flash scrubber bar after coming out of > full-screen mode). We have no plans to add ability to include > picture-in-picture interpreter. > > Best, > ken > ------------------------------------------------------- > Ken Petri > Program Director > OSU Web Accessibility Center > 102D Pomerene Hall > 1760 Neil Avenue > Columbus, Ohio 43210 > Phone: (614) 292-1760 > Fax: (614) 292-4190 > mailto:petri.1@osu.edu > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Nettie Fischer > wrote: > > I would like to add to Melanie's request. I am on a non-profit > Adapted Leisure board and we need to modify the website so it is > accessible. Any information will be greatly appreciated. > > Nettie > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Melanie P Thornton > > wrote: > > Hi all. > > Is anyone working to create accessible Flash videos. We would > love to see some examples of set-ups that have the option to > show/hide captions, that are keyboard accessible across > browsers, and if anyone has them, that have the option to > show/hide interpreter (even if tI ohat actually means swapping > out one video for another). > > > Anyone doing this and willing to send me links to examples? > > Thanks! > > Melanie > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > -- > Nettie T. Fischer, ATP > Assistive Technology Professional > Nettiet, ATP Consultants > www.nettietatpconsultants.com > [916] 222-3492 Office > (916) 704-1456 Cell > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Thu Mar 11 16:21:56 2010 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? In-Reply-To: <4B98ACB0.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> References: <9CC957413BE846D2B8746068F68C55C4@emp24> <4B98ACB0.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> Message-ID: <015901cac17a$065cdb00$13169100$@org> I would not suggest one of these scanners for production work they will not typically last very long and they are extremely slow to scan a page in comparison to many of the office or workroom grade scanners. For a good reasonable priced "production" scanner I would start looking at either the Xerox Documate series: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1534598 or the Fujitsu FI series: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=991650 I currently am using both of these units in several of the projects I am working with. I really like the Canon LIDE series for a scanner that I can check out to a student along with a laptop in a backpack unit that makes them very independent. It works well, is low cost and as a result I don't worry so much about it being dropped and destroyed. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:41 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? I agree, all of our single scanners are the Lide series and I've never had any problems with them. Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward. >>> "Phillip Goodman" 3/11/2010 8:22 AM >>> The Canon Canoscan LIDE series (100, 200, and 700) have a very slim profile and are fast with good quality scans. They run from $63 to $133. I think they still come with the Paperport software but it has been a while since I ordered one. They also run off USB power so you don't have to find an extra plug and are mobile for laptop use... Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTL Assistive Technology Consultant Employment Resources, Inc. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. _____ From: Kelmer, Susan M. [mailto:SKelmer@stlcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:39 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? Anyone have recommendations for a PaperPort-like single-document scanner that will sit unobtrusively on a desktop and allow scanning of single sheets or cards or other information to turn into either PDF's or JPG's to attach to electronic records? I have some money to spend and would like to have something like this but honestly haven't looked in years. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5844 bytes Desc: not available URL: From john.gardner at orst.edu Thu Mar 11 17:15:59 2010 From: john.gardner at orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help with sites for accessible scientific books Message-ID: <4B9995CF.5080300@orst.edu> Hello all. Gaeir Diedrich, Neil Soiffer, and I are giving a talk on "Accomodating Math in Higher Ed" at the CSUN conference. We are preparing a resource list, something that people have greatly appreciated in the past, on nearly everything we can think of that is helpful. One such thing is a list of libraries and other places where one can find accessible math or science books in some accessible form. Our list presently includes ATPC, Louis Database, RFBD, and Bookshare. There must be others, but we are coming up blank. We will appreciate names and URL's of other sites where one can obtain math or science books in braille, recorded audio, DAISY, or any other accessible format. Thanks. John From goodman at eri-wi.org Thu Mar 11 18:37:55 2010 From: goodman at eri-wi.org (Phillip A Goodman`) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? In-Reply-To: <015901cac17a$065cdb00$13169100$@org> References: <9CC957413BE846D2B8746068F68C55C4@emp24><4B98ACB0.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> <015901cac17a$065cdb00$13169100$@org> Message-ID: <20E209ABBA704296B136E6C756BDABA6@philPC> I didn't see any reference to "production work" but these scanners are very fast for "non-production work" and I still have the first models they came out with and they are working fine... Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTL Assistive Technology Consultant Employment Resources, Inc. _____ From: Ron Stewart [mailto:ron@ahead.org] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 6:22 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? I would not suggest one of these scanners for production work they will not typically last very long and they are extremely slow to scan a page in comparison to many of the office or workroom grade scanners. For a good reasonable priced "production" scanner I would start looking at either the Xerox Documate series: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1534598 or the Fujitsu FI series: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=991650 I currently am using both of these units in several of the projects I am working with. I really like the Canon LIDE series for a scanner that I can check out to a student along with a laptop in a backpack unit that makes them very independent. It works well, is low cost and as a result I don't worry so much about it being dropped and destroyed. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:41 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? I agree, all of our single scanners are the Lide series and I've never had any problems with them. Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward. >>> "Phillip Goodman" 3/11/2010 8:22 AM >>> The Canon Canoscan LIDE series (100, 200, and 700) have a very slim profile and are fast with good quality scans. They run from $63 to $133. I think they still come with the Paperport software but it has been a while since I ordered one. They also run off USB power so you don't have to find an extra plug and are mobile for laptop use... Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTL Assistive Technology Consultant Employment Resources, Inc. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. _____ From: Kelmer, Susan M. [mailto:SKelmer@stlcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:39 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? Anyone have recommendations for a PaperPort-like single-document scanner that will sit unobtrusively on a desktop and allow scanning of single sheets or cards or other information to turn into either PDF's or JPG's to attach to electronic records? I have some money to spend and would like to have something like this but honestly haven't looked in years. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2736 - Release Date: 03/11/10 01:33:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5809 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5844 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ron at ahead.org Thu Mar 11 18:53:50 2010 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? In-Reply-To: <20E209ABBA704296B136E6C756BDABA6@philPC> References: <9CC957413BE846D2B8746068F68C55C4@emp24><4B98ACB0.B63E.00EA.0@linnbenton.edu> <015901cac17a$065cdb00$13169100$@org> <20E209ABBA704296B136E6C756BDABA6@philPC> Message-ID: <01c701cac18f$3e7cc990$bb765cb0$@org> Cool, glad you have had a great experience with them. I have not had similar experiences, nor have most of my client projects J. Ron From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Phillip A Goodman` Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:38 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? I didn't see any reference to "production work" but these scanners are very fast for "non-production work" and I still have the first models they came out with and they are working fine... Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTL Assistive Technology Consultant Employment Resources, Inc. _____ From: Ron Stewart [mailto:ron@ahead.org] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 6:22 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? I would not suggest one of these scanners for production work they will not typically last very long and they are extremely slow to scan a page in comparison to many of the office or workroom grade scanners. For a good reasonable priced "production" scanner I would start looking at either the Xerox Documate series: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1534598 or the Fujitsu FI series: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=991650 I currently am using both of these units in several of the projects I am working with. I really like the Canon LIDE series for a scanner that I can check out to a student along with a laptop in a backpack unit that makes them very independent. It works well, is low cost and as a result I don't worry so much about it being dropped and destroyed. Ron Stewart From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Carol Raymundo Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:41 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? I agree, all of our single scanners are the Lide series and I've never had any problems with them. Carol Raymundo Instructional Specialist with Assistive Technology Linn-Benton Community College Office of Disability Services Phone: 541-917-4832 Fax: 541-917-4328 NOTICE: This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete and do not forward. >>> "Phillip Goodman" 3/11/2010 8:22 AM >>> The Canon Canoscan LIDE series (100, 200, and 700) have a very slim profile and are fast with good quality scans. They run from $63 to $133. I think they still come with the Paperport software but it has been a while since I ordered one. They also run off USB power so you don't have to find an extra plug and are mobile for laptop use... Phillip A. Goodman B.S. OTL Assistive Technology Consultant Employment Resources, Inc. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. _____ From: Kelmer, Susan M. [mailto:SKelmer@stlcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:39 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: [Athen] Recommendations for single-document scanner? Anyone have recommendations for a PaperPort-like single-document scanner that will sit unobtrusively on a desktop and allow scanning of single sheets or cards or other information to turn into either PDF's or JPG's to attach to electronic records? I have some money to spend and would like to have something like this but honestly haven't looked in years. Susan Kelmer Adaptive Technology Specialist/ Lab Coordinator, Campus Labs and Classrooms St. Louis Community College - Meramec 314-984-7951 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2736 - Release Date: 03/11/10 01:33:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <4B9A9170.1020905@stanford.edu> While I do believe that it will require a test-drive to determine what accessibility features and functionality are truly present on the iPad, there is additional information being released about iBooks and VoiceOver. Short URL: http://tinyurl.com/yhk2r97 Full URL: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/12/ipad-mute-switch-magicked-into-a-screen-rotation-lock-overnigh/ From the article at Engadget: "In other news, it's been confirmed that iBooks will be able to sync free (non-DRM'd) ePub titles in from iTunes, which is good news for people who want to use an existing ePub stash of theirs with Apple's fancy page-flipping interface. Also on the books front, it was clarified today that the iPad can indeed use VoiceOver screen-reading for reading pages of books out loud -- we knew the screen reading tech was on the iPad, but now it sounds as if it will be more directly integrated into iBooks." 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(Well, I can dream, can't I? ;-) _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Mar 12, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Sean J Keegan wrote: > While I do believe that it will require a test-drive to determine > what accessibility features and functionality are truly present on > the iPad, there is additional information being released about > iBooks and VoiceOver. > > Short URL: > http://tinyurl.com/yhk2r97 > > Full URL: > http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/12/ipad-mute-switch-magicked-into-a-screen-rotation-lock-overnigh/ > > From the article at Engadget: > > "In other news, it's been confirmed that iBooks will be able to sync > free (non-DRM'd) ePub titles in from iTunes, which is good news for > people who want to use an existing ePub stash of theirs with Apple's > fancy page-flipping interface. Also on the books front, it was > clarified today that the iPad can indeed use VoiceOver screen- > reading for reading pages of books out loud -- we knew the screen > reading tech was on the iPad, but now it sounds as if it will be > more directly integrated into iBooks." > > > Take care, > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 13:14:29 2010 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] And more information about the iPad... In-Reply-To: References: <4B9A9170.1020905@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <6e84aedd1003121314i249a1ebal556d0e3786d17c9d@mail.gmail.com> Now we only need to worry about how accessible the ebook files they create are. I also hope that the voice over functionallity is better than reading documents in the document viewer that opens from safari and their mail app. I would like to read increments less than the whole document at a time or more than word by word. I hope there is a happy medium or something more like reading in safari. Jeff On 3/12/10, Shelley Haven wrote: >> "Also on the books front, it was clarified today that the iPad can >> indeed use VoiceOver screen-reading for reading pages of books out >> loud..." > > > I wrote an e-mail to Steve Jobs a few days ago asking precisely this > question -- I'd like to believe this clarification was in response to > that. (Well, I can dream, can't I? ;-) > > _____________________________ > Shelley Haven ATP, RET > Assistive Technology Consultant > www.TechPotential.net > > > > On Mar 12, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Sean J Keegan wrote: > >> While I do believe that it will require a test-drive to determine >> what accessibility features and functionality are truly present on >> the iPad, there is additional information being released about >> iBooks and VoiceOver. >> >> Short URL: >> http://tinyurl.com/yhk2r97 >> >> Full URL: >> http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/12/ipad-mute-switch-magicked-into-a-screen-rotation-lock-overnigh/ >> >> From the article at Engadget: >> >> "In other news, it's been confirmed that iBooks will be able to sync >> free (non-DRM'd) ePub titles in from iTunes, which is good news for >> people who want to use an existing ePub stash of theirs with Apple's >> fancy page-flipping interface. Also on the books front, it was >> clarified today that the iPad can indeed use VoiceOver screen- >> reading for reading pages of books out loud -- we knew the screen >> reading tech was on the iPad, but now it sounds as if it will be >> more directly integrated into iBooks." >> >> >> Take care, >> Sean >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From Jane.Mulrooney at nau.edu Fri Mar 12 13:20:52 2010 From: Jane.Mulrooney at nau.edu (Jane Ellen Mulrooney) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help Message-ID: <5142E367F1456C4FBDA598A7727FC43005C7A9C319@NAUFLG-CMS1.nau.froot.nau.edu> Please unsubscribe me to your web site. Jane mulrooney ________________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org [athen-request@athenpro.org] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1:00 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 50, Issue 24 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Samsung eBook Reader (Karlen Communications) 2. Re: Samsung eBook Reader (Pratik Patel) 3. And more information about the iPad... (Sean J Keegan) 4. Re: And more information about the iPad... (Shelley Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:04:20 -0500 From: "Karlen Communications" Subject: [Athen] Samsung eBook Reader To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <003d01cac1dc$25e3ea60$71abbf20$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" They don't mention TTS so am assuming this is yet another inaccessible entry into the market. http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/11/samsung-unwraps-a-new-e-book- reader/?partner=rss &emc=rss Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To: Access Technology Higher Education Network , Alternate Media Message-ID: <4B9A9170.1020905@stanford.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" While I do believe that it will require a test-drive to determine what accessibility features and functionality are truly present on the iPad, there is additional information being released about iBooks and VoiceOver. Short URL: http://tinyurl.com/yhk2r97 Full URL: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/12/ipad-mute-switch-magicked-into-a-screen-rotation-lock-overnigh/ From the article at Engadget: "In other news, it's been confirmed that iBooks will be able to sync free (non-DRM'd) ePub titles in from iTunes, which is good news for people who want to use an existing ePub stash of theirs with Apple's fancy page-flipping interface. Also on the books front, it was clarified today that the iPad can indeed use VoiceOver screen-reading for reading pages of books out loud -- we knew the screen reading tech was on the iPad, but now it sounds as if it will be more directly integrated into iBooks." Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: skeegan.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 332 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:24:31 -0800 From: Shelley Haven Subject: Re: [Athen] And more information about the iPad... To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > "Also on the books front, it was clarified today that the iPad can > indeed use VoiceOver screen-reading for reading pages of books out > loud..." I wrote an e-mail to Steve Jobs a few days ago asking precisely this question -- I'd like to believe this clarification was in response to that. (Well, I can dream, can't I? ;-) _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Mar 12, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Sean J Keegan wrote: > While I do believe that it will require a test-drive to determine > what accessibility features and functionality are truly present on > the iPad, there is additional information being released about > iBooks and VoiceOver. > > Short URL: > http://tinyurl.com/yhk2r97 > > Full URL: > http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/12/ipad-mute-switch-magicked-into-a-screen-rotation-lock-overnigh/ > > From the article at Engadget: > > "In other news, it's been confirmed that iBooks will be able to sync > free (non-DRM'd) ePub titles in from iTunes, which is good news for > people who want to use an existing ePub stash of theirs with Apple's > fancy page-flipping interface. Also on the books front, it was > clarified today that the iPad can indeed use VoiceOver screen- > reading for reading pages of books out loud -- we knew the screen > reading tech was on the iPad, but now it sounds as if it will be > more directly integrated into iBooks." > > > Take care, > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 50, Issue 24 ************************************* From jthulin at nwacc.edu Fri Mar 12 13:24:42 2010 From: jthulin at nwacc.edu (Thulin, James W.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help In-Reply-To: <5142E367F1456C4FBDA598A7727FC43005C7A9C319@NAUFLG-CMS1.nau.froot.nau.edu> References: <5142E367F1456C4FBDA598A7727FC43005C7A9C319@NAUFLG-CMS1.nau.froot.nau.edu> Message-ID: <6EDA9A718ADCBD47B2DC2852B62147BC09A23B8E@boreas.nwacc.edu> Unsubscribe me also. Thank you, James Thulin Disability Access Technologist Diability Resource Center NorthWest Arkansas Community College One College Drive Bentonville, AR? 72712 Fax: 479.619.4346 jthulin@nwacc.edu 479-986-4031 This message is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, do not disclose, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately that you are not the person for whom this email was intended and delete this email from your system. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jane Ellen Mulrooney Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 3:21 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Re: [Athen] Help Please unsubscribe me to your web site. Jane mulrooney ________________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org [athen-request@athenpro.org] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1:00 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 50, Issue 24 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Samsung eBook Reader (Karlen Communications) 2. Re: Samsung eBook Reader (Pratik Patel) 3. And more information about the iPad... (Sean J Keegan) 4. Re: And more information about the iPad... (Shelley Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:04:20 -0500 From: "Karlen Communications" Subject: [Athen] Samsung eBook Reader To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <003d01cac1dc$25e3ea60$71abbf20$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" They don't mention TTS so am assuming this is yet another inaccessible entry into the market. http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/11/samsung-unwraps-a-new-e-book- reader/?partner=rss &emc=rss Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:32:22 -0500 From: Pratik Patel Subject: Re: [Athen] Samsung eBook Reader To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Message-ID: <699a9891003120832q7547dbb5j8d7f58d4947b9cbb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have it on good authority that this one will not have TTS. Not that it surprises me. On 3/12/10, Karlen Communications wrote: > They don't mention TTS so am assuming this is yet another inaccessible entry > into the market. > > http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/11/samsung-unwraps-a-new-e-book- > reader/?partner=rss > -reader/?partner=rss&emc=rss> &emc=rss > > > > Cheers, Karen > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:09:36 -0800 From: Sean J Keegan Subject: [Athen] And more information about the iPad... To: Access Technology Higher Education Network , Alternate Media Message-ID: <4B9A9170.1020905@stanford.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" While I do believe that it will require a test-drive to determine what accessibility features and functionality are truly present on the iPad, there is additional information being released about iBooks and VoiceOver. Short URL: http://tinyurl.com/yhk2r97 Full URL: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/12/ipad-mute-switch-magicked-into-a-screen-rotation-lock-overnigh/ From the article at Engadget: "In other news, it's been confirmed that iBooks will be able to sync free (non-DRM'd) ePub titles in from iTunes, which is good news for people who want to use an existing ePub stash of theirs with Apple's fancy page-flipping interface. Also on the books front, it was clarified today that the iPad can indeed use VoiceOver screen-reading for reading pages of books out loud -- we knew the screen reading tech was on the iPad, but now it sounds as if it will be more directly integrated into iBooks." Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: skeegan.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 332 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:24:31 -0800 From: Shelley Haven Subject: Re: [Athen] And more information about the iPad... To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > "Also on the books front, it was clarified today that the iPad can > indeed use VoiceOver screen-reading for reading pages of books out > loud..." I wrote an e-mail to Steve Jobs a few days ago asking precisely this question -- I'd like to believe this clarification was in response to that. (Well, I can dream, can't I? ;-) _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Mar 12, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Sean J Keegan wrote: > While I do believe that it will require a test-drive to determine > what accessibility features and functionality are truly present on > the iPad, there is additional information being released about > iBooks and VoiceOver. > > Short URL: > http://tinyurl.com/yhk2r97 > > Full URL: > http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/12/ipad-mute-switch-magicked-into-a-screen-rotation-lock-overnigh/ > > From the article at Engadget: > > "In other news, it's been confirmed that iBooks will be able to sync > free (non-DRM'd) ePub titles in from iTunes, which is good news for > people who want to use an existing ePub stash of theirs with Apple's > fancy page-flipping interface. Also on the books front, it was > clarified today that the iPad can indeed use VoiceOver screen- > reading for reading pages of books out loud -- we knew the screen > reading tech was on the iPad, but now it sounds as if it will be > more directly integrated into iBooks." > > > Take care, > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 50, Issue 24 ************************************* _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Fri Mar 12 13:40:46 2010 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] And more information about the iPad... In-Reply-To: <6e84aedd1003121314i249a1ebal556d0e3786d17c9d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B9A9170.1020905@stanford.edu> <6e84aedd1003121314i249a1ebal556d0e3786d17c9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Apple's webpage on iPad Accessibility (http://www.apple.com/ipad/features/accessibility.html ) details a number of accessibility features that are similar to those in Mac OS X -- Voiceover, Zoom, White-on-Black, etc. It appears from the picture of the Accessibility settings panel that VoiceOver is simply an on-off function. It's not clear if it allows the additional configuration found on the Mac. In particular, I would love to see the VoiceOver Cursor (which would serve the same function as highlighting text as it's read) and the Caption Panel (which pulls out that text into a separate overlaying window). This would give it definite advantages over the text-to-speech functions found in Kindle or other e-readers. Of particular note, it also says: Apple also enables software developers to create applications for iPad that work with VoiceOver. Hmm-m... (my mind reels with possibilities). BTW, here's Apple's webpage on the iBooks app (VoiceOver mentioned toward the bottom): "iBooks works with VoiceOver, the screen reader in iPad, so it can read you the contents of any page." http://www.apple.com/ipad/features/ibooks.html Makes me wonder if books for the iPad are more expensive than for Kindle because Apple negotiated the audio rights as well. (As you recall, this is what got Amazon into hot water with the publishers last year when they first released the Kindle 2 with TTS.) - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:14 PM, Jeffrey Dell wrote: > Now we only need to worry about how accessible the ebook files they > create are. I also hope that the voice over functionallity is better > than reading documents in the document viewer that opens from safari > and their mail app. I would like to read increments less than the > whole document at a time or more than word by word. I hope there is a > happy medium or something more like reading in safari. > Jeff > > On 3/12/10, Shelley Haven wrote: >>> "Also on the books front, it was clarified today that the iPad can >>> indeed use VoiceOver screen-reading for reading pages of books out >>> loud..." >> >> >> I wrote an e-mail to Steve Jobs a few days ago asking precisely this >> question -- I'd like to believe this clarification was in response to >> that. (Well, I can dream, can't I? ;-) >> >> _____________________________ >> Shelley Haven ATP, RET >> Assistive Technology Consultant >> www.TechPotential.net >> >> >> >> On Mar 12, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Sean J Keegan wrote: >> >>> While I do believe that it will require a test-drive to determine >>> what accessibility features and functionality are truly present on >>> the iPad, there is additional information being released about >>> iBooks and VoiceOver. >>> >>> Short URL: >>> http://tinyurl.com/yhk2r97 >>> >>> Full URL: >>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/12/ipad-mute-switch-magicked-into-a-screen-rotation-lock-overnigh/ >>> >>> From the article at Engadget: >>> >>> "In other news, it's been confirmed that iBooks will be able to sync >>> free (non-DRM'd) ePub titles in from iTunes, which is good news for >>> people who want to use an existing ePub stash of theirs with Apple's >>> fancy page-flipping interface. Also on the books front, it was >>> clarified today that the iPad can indeed use VoiceOver screen- >>> reading for reading pages of books out loud -- we knew the screen >>> reading tech was on the iPad, but now it sounds as if it will be >>> more directly integrated into iBooks." >>> >>> >>> Take care, >>> Sean >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Athen mailing list >>> Athen@athenpro.org >>> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jane mulrooney ________________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of athen-request@athenpro.org [athen-request@athenpro.org] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1:00 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: Athen Digest, Vol 50, Issue 24 Send Athen mailing list submissions to athen@athenpro.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-request@athenpro.org You can reach the person managing the list at athen-owner@athenpro.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Athen digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Samsung eBook Reader (Karlen Communications) 2. Re: Samsung eBook Reader (Pratik Patel) 3. And more information about the iPad... (Sean J Keegan) 4. Re: And more information about the iPad... (Shelley Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:04:20 -0500 From: "Karlen Communications" Subject: [Athen] Samsung eBook Reader To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <003d01cac1dc$25e3ea60$71abbf20$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" They don't mention TTS so am assuming this is yet another inaccessible entry into the market. http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/11/samsung-unwraps-a-new-e-book- reader/?partner=rss &emc=rss Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To: Access Technology Higher Education Network , Alternate Media Message-ID: <4B9A9170.1020905@stanford.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" While I do believe that it will require a test-drive to determine what accessibility features and functionality are truly present on the iPad, there is additional information being released about iBooks and VoiceOver. Short URL: http://tinyurl.com/yhk2r97 Full URL: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/12/ipad-mute-switch-magicked-into-a-screen-r otation-lock-overnigh/ From the article at Engadget: "In other news, it's been confirmed that iBooks will be able to sync free (non-DRM'd) ePub titles in from iTunes, which is good news for people who want to use an existing ePub stash of theirs with Apple's fancy page-flipping interface. Also on the books front, it was clarified today that the iPad can indeed use VoiceOver screen-reading for reading pages of books out loud -- we knew the screen reading tech was on the iPad, but now it sounds as if it will be more directly integrated into iBooks." Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: skeegan.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 332 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:24:31 -0800 From: Shelley Haven Subject: Re: [Athen] And more information about the iPad... To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > "Also on the books front, it was clarified today that the iPad can > indeed use VoiceOver screen-reading for reading pages of books out > loud..." I wrote an e-mail to Steve Jobs a few days ago asking precisely this question -- I'd like to believe this clarification was in response to that. (Well, I can dream, can't I? ;-) _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Mar 12, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Sean J Keegan wrote: > While I do believe that it will require a test-drive to determine > what accessibility features and functionality are truly present on > the iPad, there is additional information being released about > iBooks and VoiceOver. > > Short URL: > http://tinyurl.com/yhk2r97 > > Full URL: > http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/12/ipad-mute-switch-magicked-into-a-screen-r otation-lock-overnigh/ > > From the article at Engadget: > > "In other news, it's been confirmed that iBooks will be able to sync > free (non-DRM'd) ePub titles in from iTunes, which is good news for > people who want to use an existing ePub stash of theirs with Apple's > fancy page-flipping interface. Also on the books front, it was > clarified today that the iPad can indeed use VoiceOver screen- > reading for reading pages of books out loud -- we knew the screen > reading tech was on the iPad, but now it sounds as if it will be > more directly integrated into iBooks." > > > Take care, > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org End of Athen Digest, Vol 50, Issue 24 ************************************* _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From norm.coombs at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 14:01:03 2010 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessible external drive autosynch system Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20100313135826.023a0928@pop.gmail.com> I have an external drive and decided to set up to do auto synch. Not only didn't the install program work with JAWS... although I did get it installed but no idea what settings I accepted for it!! But now when it wants to autosynch and asks me to OK it, I can't read enough to tell what it wants to do . Anyone have a giant external with synch software that might work with a screen reader?? Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From johumber at iupui.edu Sat Mar 13 14:04:03 2010 From: johumber at iupui.edu (Humbert, Joseph A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessible external drive autosynch system In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20100313135826.023a0928@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20100313135826.023a0928@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: Synctoy from microsoft. You have to setup windows based tasks. It is what I use. Thankx. Joe Humbert, Assistive Technology and Web Accessibility Specialist UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E Indianapolis, IN 46202 Office Phone: (317) 274-4378 Cell Phone: (847) 431-6545 johumber@iupui.edu http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/ On Mar 13, 2010, at 5:01 PM, "Prof Norm Coombs" wrote: > I have an external drive and decided to set up to do auto synch. > Not only > didn't the install program work with JAWS... although I did get it > installed but no idea what settings I accepted for it!! > But now when it wants to autosynch and asks me to OK it, I can't read > enough to tell what it wants to do . > > > Anyone have a giant external with synch software that might work > with a > screen reader?? > > Norm > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve > > Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com > CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information > phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) > ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: > http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From zpaz at ldrfa.org Sat Mar 13 17:53:22 2010 From: zpaz at ldrfa.org (Zahavit Paz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] MacSpeech Scribe Message-ID: <51849c9a1003131753i37d25adaref6ce1dacd5a578c@mail.gmail.com> http://www.macspeech.com/article_info.php?articles_id=360 MacSpeech Scribe Macintosh user running Snow Leopard can transcribe their recorded voice into written text did anyone tested it? -- Love&Light LD Resources Foundation Zahavit Paz Founder, Chairperson 31 East 32nd Street Suite 607 New York, NY 10016 646.701.0000 Office 917.405.4837 Cell 212.444.1061 Fax Zpaz@ldrfa.org www.ldrfa.org visit our blog: http://ldrfa.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/ldrfa Online donation: http://www.ldrfa.org/index.php?pID=31 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Our list presently includes ATPC, > Louis Database, RFBD, and Bookshare. There must be others, but we are > coming up blank. We will appreciate names and URL's of other sites where > one can obtain math or science books in braille, recorded audio, DAISY, or > any other accessible format. > > Thanks. > John > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -- Love&Light LD Resources Foundation Zahavit Paz Founder, Chairperson 31 East 32nd Street Suite 607 New York, NY 10016 646.701.0000 Office 917.405.4837 Cell 212.444.1061 Fax Zpaz@ldrfa.org www.ldrfa.org visit our blog: http://ldrfa.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/ldrfa Online donation: http://www.ldrfa.org/index.php?pID=31 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not even on the radar. *True lack of understanding of the issues *Mainstream Technologies for Delivery and Interaction eReaders Textbooks on Demand Web 2.0 based Technologies Thanks much, Ron **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer at colorado.edu Mon Mar 15 07:46:23 2010 From: hkramer at colorado.edu (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible FTP program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello All: Can anyone recommend an accessible ftp program? "Secure Shell" does not seem to be accessible with a screen reader. We've tried Fireftp and it seems to have limitations (can't create sub-folders). Thanks in advance. -Howard -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 Disability Services Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 Disability Services Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpuzz at msu.edu Mon Mar 15 07:57:29 2010 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible FTP program References: Message-ID: Hi Howard, The built-in Windows FTP client works well with any screen reader that can handle a command prompt. However, if you want Windows based, GUI options, check out: FTp Voyager, http://ftpvoyager.com/ FTP Explorer, http://www.ftpx.com/ Or cuteFTP, http://www.cuteftp.com/products/ftp_clients.aspx --Al ________________________________ From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:46 AM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Accessible FTP program Hello All: Can anyone recommend an accessible ftp program? "Secure Shell" does not seem to be accessible with a screen reader. We've tried Fireftp and it seems to have limitations (can't create sub-folders). Thanks in advance. -Howard -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 Disability Services Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 Disability Services Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hadi at illinois.edu Mon Mar 15 08:02:04 2010 From: hadi at illinois.edu (Hadi Rangin) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible FTP program References: Message-ID: <6DB8A551293D44F0B37765BB3DEE7D93@ad.uiuc.edu> Hi Howard, FTP access via a windows shell has never been a productive and effective method for screen reader users. As you know I am not involved in the occomodation process of our students at all but here's my suggestion and the way how I access remote drives: Use a WebDrive program to mount the remote drive onto your local machine. Once you do it then the operation is like moving/copying a file from one drive to another. Most WebDrive programs support ftp, sftp, http, https, webdav, and many more protocols. Thanks, Hadi ----- Original Message ----- From: Howard Kramer To: athen@athenpro.org Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 9:46 AM Subject: [Athen] Accessible FTP program Hello All: Can anyone recommend an accessible ftp program? "Secure Shell" does not seem to be accessible with a screen reader. We've tried Fireftp and it seems to have limitations (can't create sub-folders). Thanks in advance. -Howard -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 Disability Services Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 Disability Services Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Mon Mar 15 09:19:20 2010 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible FTP program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B9E5E08.2090509@stanford.edu> > Can anyone recommend an accessible ftp program? I did a short overview on using FileZilla (http://filezilla-project.org/) for screen-readers. It was for version 2.2.8, which is a bit older then the current version, but it may still work for you. It is not super detailed document, but really designed to provide the basics on how to upload/download a file from a server. I have attached the Word version of the file. Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: FileZilla.doc Type: application/msword Size: 118784 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: skeegan.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 332 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu Mon Mar 15 11:56:15 2010 From: Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu (Kenneth Elkind) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Nuance PDF Reader-have free online scanning -- quite cool! Message-ID: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00241FBD2@ebe1.umassb.net> Little the time ago I ran across nuance PDF reader. If you haven't tried it already it has a wonderful feature allowing you to convert a PDF to Word or any other format. You take a image PDF (it does have to be at a PDF) Select their PDF converter it will open you to a webpage and and a few minutes later you will receive any e-mail of this word document with quite a good recognition and preserves the layout quite nicely. One does need to correct any rotation issues. Kenneth Elkind Adaptive Technology Specialist University of Massachusetts - Boston IT-ED Tech Operations Healey Library /UL/ 032 617-287-5243 Kenneth.Elkind@umb.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Let me know if you have other questions. Thanks, Mary Beth On Mar 15, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Kenneth Elkind wrote: MaryBeth, I enjoyed meeting with you over years working for Kurzweil educational systems. I'm currently working for University of Massachusetts Boston, and I'm on a listserv is interested about the accessibility of the iPAd. Can sent me some literature or the information about the accessibility features and specs of the Ipad? I hope is all doing. Kenneth Elkind Adaptive Technology Specialist University of Massachusetts - Boston IT-ED Tech Operations Healey Library /UL/ 032 617-287-5243 Kenneth.Elkind@umb.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.gardner at orst.edu Mon Mar 15 13:11:57 2010 From: john.gardner at orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help with sites for accessible scientific books In-Reply-To: <51849c9a1003131835l4d3c8e2bxfbe28be61349302@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B9995CF.5080300@orst.edu> <51849c9a1003131835l4d3c8e2bxfbe28be61349302@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B9E948D.9070400@orst.edu> Thank you Zahavit. I did not have these on the resource list. I do now! John On 3/13/2010 6:35 PM, Zahavit Paz wrote: > > John hi, > > > Try Alternative Media Access Center > > > http://www.amac.uga.edu and > > > The AccessText Network > > http://www.accesstext.org > > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:15 PM, John Gardner > wrote: > > Hello all. Gaeir Diedrich, Neil Soiffer, and I are giving a talk on > "Accomodating Math in Higher Ed" at the CSUN conference. We are > preparing a resource list, something that people have greatly > appreciated in the past, on nearly everything we can think of that > is helpful. One such thing is a list of libraries and other places > where one can find accessible math or science books in some > accessible form. Our list presently includes ATPC, Louis > Database, RFBD, and Bookshare. There must be others, but we are > coming up blank. We will appreciate names and URL's of other sites > where one can obtain math or science books in braille, recorded > audio, DAISY, or any other accessible format. > > Thanks. > John > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > > > -- > Love&Light > LD Resources Foundation > Zahavit Paz > Founder, Chairperson > 31 East 32nd Street Suite 607 > New York, NY 10016 > 646.701.0000 Office > 917.405.4837 Cell > 212.444.1061 Fax > Zpaz@ldrfa.org > www.ldrfa.org > > visit our blog: > http://ldrfa.blogspot.com > http://twitter.com/ldrfa > Online donation: > http://www.ldrfa.org/index.php?pID=31 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From pratikp1 at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 13:15:40 2010 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Nuance PDF Reader-have free online scanning -- quite cool! In-Reply-To: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00241FBD2@ebe1.umassb.net> References: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00241FBD2@ebe1.umassb.net> Message-ID: <001b01cac47c$4a2ccfc0$de866f40$@com> I have been using this for the last few weeks. The online OCR feature is nice. But I have found it to be untimely. It has taken the service more than 48 hours to deliver the the document back after conversion. Plus, if using JAWS, it strangely manages to take over the insert/capslock key like its paid counterpart. One has to end-task JFW and restart it. It may be a nice alternative to Acrobat Reader for everyone else. Pratik From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kenneth Elkind Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 2:56 PM To: athen@athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Nuance PDF Reader-have free online scanning -- quite cool! Little the time ago I ran across nuance PDF reader. If you haven't tried it already it has a wonderful feature allowing you to convert a PDF to Word or any other format. You take a image PDF (it does have to be at a PDF) Select their PDF converter it will open you to a webpage and and a few minutes later you will receive any e-mail of this word document with quite a good recognition and preserves the layout quite nicely. One does need to correct any rotation issues. Kenneth Elkind Adaptive Technology Specialist University of Massachusetts - Boston IT-ED Tech Operations Healey Library /UL/ 032 617-287-5243 Kenneth.Elkind@umb.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 13:19:31 2010 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible FTP program In-Reply-To: <4B9E5E08.2090509@stanford.edu> References: <4B9E5E08.2090509@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <004401cac47c$d375c520$7a614f60$@com> I have been personally using Filezilla since 2.2. It is excellent for basic and advanced needs. It is quite accessible. Please let me know if you have questions about it. -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 12:19 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible FTP program > Can anyone recommend an accessible ftp program? I did a short overview on using FileZilla (http://filezilla-project.org/) for screen-readers. It was for version 2.2.8, which is a bit older then the current version, but it may still work for you. It is not super detailed document, but really designed to provide the basics on how to upload/download a file from a server. I have attached the Word version of the file. Take care, Sean From norm.coombs at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 06:22:58 2010 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: George Buys Online Memorial Service Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20100316062135.0239a1d0@pop.gmail.com> EASI wants to let our friends know about this online event. George is the founder of Talkingcommunities.com which EASI has used for its Webinars. I believe some on this list will want to know about this. Norm Coombs >Delivered-To: norm.coombs@gmail.com >Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of >owner-itd-jnl@listserv.icors.org designates 209.119.0.189 as permitted >sender) smtp.mail=owner-itd-jnl@listserv.icors.org >Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:14:06 -0700 >Reply-To: "Distribution list for EASI Web Conferences, Podcasts and News" > >Sender: "Distribution list for EASI Web Conferences, Podcasts and >News" >From: Prof Norm Coombs >Subject: George Buys Online Memorial Service >To: ITD-JNL@LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG >List-Help: , > >List-Unsubscribe: >List-Subscribe: >List-Owner: > >You will recall I reported the sad passing of my friend and the CEO of >Talkingcommunities.com, the system we use for our Webinars. > >Here's information regarding George Buy's Online Memorial Service scheduled >to take place beginning at 8:00 PM Eastern on Tuesday, March 23. >Please try to attend and join me and others of George's colleagues and >friends!!! > >Use your browser to go to the room listed below and be sure your speakers >are turned on. > >The room login page is: >http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rs5affc3cfa191 > > >We still mourn his loss. > >Norm Coombs > >Please distribute far and wide... > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve > >Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com >CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information >phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) >****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: >http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > >----------------------- >Check out EASI's New Synchronous Clinics: >http://easi.cc/clinic.htm > >EASI Home Page http://www.rit.edu/~easi >Online Courses and Clinics http://easi.cc/workshop.htm >To sign off this list >send e-mail to listserv@listserv.icors.org saying >signoff itd-jnl . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From ron at altformatsolutions.com Tue Mar 16 07:12:23 2010 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators Message-ID: <022601cac512$b38f0be0$1aad23a0$@com> Hi all, I am working with a campus where we are working with their locally produced curriculum and have decided that MathML is preferable to LaTEX in this particular context. Is anyone aware of any "easy" and reliable LaTEX to MathML translators? Low or no cost is preferred but a reasonable commercial solution would also be worth taking a look at. Ron Stewart **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 07:57:52 2010 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible FTP program In-Reply-To: <6DB8A551293D44F0B37765BB3DEE7D93@ad.uiuc.edu> References: <6DB8A551293D44F0B37765BB3DEE7D93@ad.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20100316075700.023a7e40@pop.gmail.com> I am a fan of FTP voyager and use it many times every week and have done so for more than10 years!! No problems except one site which requires crazy settings. At 08:02 AM 3/15/2010, you wrote: >Hi Howard, > >FTP access via a windows shell has never been a productive and effective >method for screen reader users. As you know I am not involved in the >occomodation process of our students at all but here's my suggestion and >the way how I access remote drives: > >Use a WebDrive program to mount the remote drive onto your local machine. >Once you do it then the operation is like moving/copying a file from one >drive to another. Most WebDrive programs support ftp, sftp, http, https, >webdav, and many more protocols. > >Thanks, >Hadi > >----- Original Message ----- >>From: Howard Kramer >>To: athen@athenpro.org >>Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 9:46 AM >>Subject: [Athen] Accessible FTP program >> >>Hello All: >> >>Can anyone recommend an accessible ftp program? "Secure Shell" does not >>seem to be accessible with a screen reader. We've tried Fireftp and it >>seems to have limitations (can't create sub-folders). Thanks in advance. >> >>-Howard >> >>-- >>Howard Kramer >>AHG Conference Coordinator >>Access Specialist >>303-492-8672 >>fax: 492-5601 >>Disability Services >>Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion >> >> >> >>-- >>Howard Kramer >>AHG Conference Coordinator >>Access Specialist >>303-492-8672 >>fax: 492-5601 >>Disability Services >>Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion >> >> >>---------- >>_______________________________________________ >>Athen mailing list >>Athen@athenpro.org >>http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From hkramer.atsol at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 08:03:46 2010 From: hkramer.atsol at gmail.com (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible FTP program In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20100316075700.023a7e40@pop.gmail.com> References: <6DB8A551293D44F0B37765BB3DEE7D93@ad.uiuc.edu> <6.0.3.0.2.20100316075700.023a7e40@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you to everyone for those suggestions. -Howard On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Prof Norm Coombs wrote: > I am a fan of FTP voyager and use it many times every week and have done so > for more than10 years!! > > No problems except one site which requires crazy settings. > > At 08:02 AM 3/15/2010, you wrote: > >> Hi Howard, >> >> FTP access via a windows shell has never been a productive and effective >> method for screen reader users. As you know I am not involved in the >> occomodation process of our students at all but here's my suggestion and the >> way how I access remote drives: >> >> Use a WebDrive program to mount the remote drive onto your local machine. >> Once you do it then the operation is like moving/copying a file from one >> drive to another. Most WebDrive programs support ftp, sftp, http, https, >> webdav, and many more protocols. >> >> Thanks, >> Hadi >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: Howard Kramer >>> To: athen@athenpro.org >>> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 9:46 AM >>> Subject: [Athen] Accessible FTP program >>> >>> Hello All: >>> >>> Can anyone recommend an accessible ftp program? "Secure Shell" does not >>> seem to be accessible with a screen reader. We've tried Fireftp and it seems >>> to have limitations (can't create sub-folders). Thanks in advance. >>> >>> -Howard >>> >>> -- >>> Howard Kramer >>> AHG Conference Coordinator >>> Access Specialist >>> 303-492-8672 >>> fax: 492-5601 >>> Disability Services >>> Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Howard Kramer >>> AHG Conference Coordinator >>> Access Specialist >>> 303-492-8672 >>> fax: 492-5601 >>> Disability Services >>> Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion >>> >>> >>> ---------- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Athen mailing list >>> Athen@athenpro.org >>> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Once you choose hope, anything's possible. 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Here is a sample. >From Notepad \alpha + 2^2 = \theta >From MathType α+ 2 2 =θ Jeff On 3/16/10, Ron Stewart wrote: > Hi all, I am working with a campus where we are working with their locally > produced curriculum and have decided that MathML is preferable to LaTEX in > this particular context. Is anyone aware of any "easy" and reliable LaTEX > to MathML translators? Low or no cost is preferred but a reasonable > commercial solution would also be worth taking a look at. > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > **************************************************************************** > *** > > Ron Stewart > > Managing Consultant > > Altformat Solutions LLC > > > > 8300 West Weller St > > Yorktown, IN 47396 > > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > > www.altformatsolutions.com > > > > From jbailey at uoregon.edu Tue Mar 16 08:27:25 2010 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] central campus web and pdf production: a few questions Message-ID: <1268753245.36031.alphamail@mailapps2.uoregon.edu> Hello All, More and more colleges have services to create web and pdf content for departments and other campus entities (usually for a fee). I have a few questions about this: - Does your campus have a central web and/or pdf development service? - If so, have they articulated a policy of creating ?accessible? websites and/or pdfs (either by standards compliance or some other method)? - If they have such a policy, how well do they deliver on it (I have seen design departments have wonderful 508 compliance ?guidelines? that are largely ignored)? As you may have figured out, we have such a department and their commitment to accessibility is not quite exemplary. If I get over a half-dozen responses, I will summarize and report back to the list. Please forgive cross postings. ? Thanks, James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1501 Kincaid St. Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu From skeegan at stanford.edu Tue Mar 16 08:34:18 2010 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators In-Reply-To: <022601cac512$b38f0be0$1aad23a0$@com> References: <022601cac512$b38f0be0$1aad23a0$@com> Message-ID: <4B9FA4FA.1050806@stanford.edu> > Is anyone aware of any ?easy? and > reliable LaTEX to MathML translators? Here are a few that I have come across when reviewing MathML and TeX issues. Unfortunately, I cannot speak to the first two options regarding their accuracy/reliability as I have only performed a few translations. TeX/LaTeX to MathML Online Translator: http://www.orcca.on.ca/MathML/texmml/textomml.html TtM, a TeX to MathML translator http://hutchinson.belmont.ma.us/tth/mml/ As a previous poster identified, MathType is also available and is generally what I end up using for conversions. I also use Scientific Notebook (ver. 5.5) as this will do the LaTex input and you can then export to MathML (you need to go into the Tools menu and change the Export Settings to Export as MathML). http://www.mackichan.com/index.html?techtalk/709.htm~mainFrame Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, k ------------------------------------------------------- Ken Petri Program Director OSU Web Accessibility Center 102D Pomerene Hall 1760 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43210 Phone: (614) 292-1760 Fax: (614) 292-4190 mailto:petri.1@osu.edu ------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Jeffrey Dell wrote: > Mathtype can do it. > In the Preferences menu select Translator and change it to MathML 2.0. > then go to the Preferences menu and select Workspac Preferences and > check the box to allow Tex input from the keyboard. then you can cut > and paste code fro the document into MathType and copy the text from > MathType to Paste the MathML into the document that you are working > on. It isn't as simple as processing the whole document at once but > it works. > Here is a sample. > >From Notepad > \alpha + 2^2 = \theta > >From MathType > > > > α+ > 2 > 2 > > =θ > > > > > > > Jeff > > On 3/16/10, Ron Stewart wrote: > > Hi all, I am working with a campus where we are working with their > locally > > produced curriculum and have decided that MathML is preferable to LaTEX > in > > this particular context. Is anyone aware of any "easy" and reliable > LaTEX > > to MathML translators? Low or no cost is preferred but a reasonable > > commercial solution would also be worth taking a look at. > > > > > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > > *** > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > Managing Consultant > > > > Altformat Solutions LLC > > > > > > > > 8300 West Weller St > > > > Yorktown, IN 47396 > > > > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > > > > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > > > > > > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > > > > www.altformatsolutions.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Tue Mar 16 09:20:29 2010 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators In-Reply-To: <6e84aedd1003160809j6ae55965y3dda1d21aa6ed836@mail.gmail.com> References: <022601cac512$b38f0be0$1aad23a0$@com> <6e84aedd1003160809j6ae55965y3dda1d21aa6ed836@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <028f01cac524$98482580$c8d87080$@org> Thanks I appreciate it. Let me clarify what I am needing to do is go directly from the LaTEX original document. For future content we can design it into the various workflow, this is legacy content in fact some very legacy content. I had looked at this a few years back but none of the tools we worked with in relation to the Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:10 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators Mathtype can do it. In the Preferences menu select Translator and change it to MathML 2.0. then go to the Preferences menu and select Workspac Preferences and check the box to allow Tex input from the keyboard. then you can cut and paste code fro the document into MathType and copy the text from MathType to Paste the MathML into the document that you are working on. It isn't as simple as processing the whole document at once but it works. Here is a sample. >From Notepad \alpha + 2^2 = \theta >From MathType α+ 2 2 =θ Jeff On 3/16/10, Ron Stewart wrote: > Hi all, I am working with a campus where we are working with their locally > produced curriculum and have decided that MathML is preferable to LaTEX in > this particular context. Is anyone aware of any "easy" and reliable LaTEX > to MathML translators? Low or no cost is preferred but a reasonable > commercial solution would also be worth taking a look at. > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > **************************************************************************** > *** > > Ron Stewart > > Managing Consultant > > Altformat Solutions LLC > > > > 8300 West Weller St > > Yorktown, IN 47396 > > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > > www.altformatsolutions.com > > > > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at ahead.org Tue Mar 16 09:22:59 2010 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators In-Reply-To: <028f01cac524$98482580$c8d87080$@org> References: <022601cac512$b38f0be0$1aad23a0$@com> <6e84aedd1003160809j6ae55965y3dda1d21aa6ed836@mail.gmail.com> <028f01cac524$98482580$c8d87080$@org> Message-ID: <029001cac524$f1e8f0b0$d5bad210$@org> Sorry folks I hit send on this too soon :0 but you probably get the gist of what I was saying. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:20 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators Thanks I appreciate it. Let me clarify what I am needing to do is go directly from the LaTEX original document. For future content we can design it into the various workflow, this is legacy content in fact some very legacy content. I had looked at this a few years back but none of the tools we worked with in relation to the Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:10 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators Mathtype can do it. In the Preferences menu select Translator and change it to MathML 2.0. then go to the Preferences menu and select Workspac Preferences and check the box to allow Tex input from the keyboard. then you can cut and paste code fro the document into MathType and copy the text from MathType to Paste the MathML into the document that you are working on. It isn't as simple as processing the whole document at once but it works. Here is a sample. >From Notepad \alpha + 2^2 = \theta >From MathType α+ 2 2 =θ Jeff On 3/16/10, Ron Stewart wrote: > Hi all, I am working with a campus where we are working with their locally > produced curriculum and have decided that MathML is preferable to LaTEX in > this particular context. Is anyone aware of any "easy" and reliable LaTEX > to MathML translators? Low or no cost is preferred but a reasonable > commercial solution would also be worth taking a look at. > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > **************************************************************************** > *** > > Ron Stewart > > Managing Consultant > > Altformat Solutions LLC > > > > 8300 West Weller St > > Yorktown, IN 47396 > > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > > www.altformatsolutions.com > > > > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu Tue Mar 16 10:18:56 2010 From: jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu (Pielaet, Jon) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] LaTeX MathML Translators In-Reply-To: <029001cac524$f1e8f0b0$d5bad210$@org> References: <022601cac512$b38f0be0$1aad23a0$@com> <6e84aedd1003160809j6ae55965y3dda1d21aa6ed836@mail.gmail.com><028f01cac524$98482580$c8d87080$@org> <029001cac524$f1e8f0b0$d5bad210$@org> Message-ID: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002AE6502@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Hi Ron and the list, Here are some LaTex to MathML translators Ttm - a commercial offering about $90 if I remember correctly http://hutchinson.belmont.ma.us/tth/mml/ LaTeXMathML - Looks like a free JavaScript for the job http://www.maths.nott.ac.uk/personal/drw/lm.html I have also seen many people suggest using XSLT to transform the LaTeX into MathML. This seems like the best option to me. Here are some resources for that: http://www.cellml.org/tools/mathml-to-latex-xslt-instructions http://www.orcca.on.ca/MathML/texmml/textomml.html (See stylesheet) http://sourceforge.net/projects/xsltml/ Good Luck, Jon Jon P. Pielaet Program Assistant for Instructional Materials Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406-243-2243 Voice/Text 406-243-4461 Direct Line 406-243-5330 Fax -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:23 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators Sorry folks I hit send on this too soon :0 but you probably get the gist of what I was saying. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:20 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators Thanks I appreciate it. Let me clarify what I am needing to do is go directly from the LaTEX original document. For future content we can design it into the various workflow, this is legacy content in fact some very legacy content. I had looked at this a few years back but none of the tools we worked with in relation to the Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:10 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators Mathtype can do it. In the Preferences menu select Translator and change it to MathML 2.0. then go to the Preferences menu and select Workspac Preferences and check the box to allow Tex input from the keyboard. then you can cut and paste code fro the document into MathType and copy the text from MathType to Paste the MathML into the document that you are working on. It isn't as simple as processing the whole document at once but it works. Here is a sample. >From Notepad \alpha + 2^2 = \theta >From MathType α+ 2 2 =θ Jeff On 3/16/10, Ron Stewart wrote: > Hi all, I am working with a campus where we are working with their locally > produced curriculum and have decided that MathML is preferable to LaTEX in > this particular context. Is anyone aware of any "easy" and reliable LaTEX > to MathML translators? Low or no cost is preferred but a reasonable > commercial solution would also be worth taking a look at. > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > ************************************************************************ **** > *** > > Ron Stewart > > Managing Consultant > > Altformat Solutions LLC > > > > 8300 West Weller St > > Yorktown, IN 47396 > > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > > www.altformatsolutions.com > > > > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at ahead.org Tue Mar 16 11:25:03 2010 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] LaTeX MathML Translators In-Reply-To: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002AE6502@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> References: <022601cac512$b38f0be0$1aad23a0$@com> <6e84aedd1003160809j6ae55965y3dda1d21aa6ed836@mail.gmail.com><028f01cac524$98482580$c8d87080$@org> <029001cac524$f1e8f0b0$d5bad210$@org> <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002AE6502@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Message-ID: <02bf01cac535$ff1eaf20$fd5c0d60$@org> Thanks much Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:19 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] LaTeX MathML Translators Hi Ron and the list, Here are some LaTex to MathML translators Ttm - a commercial offering about $90 if I remember correctly http://hutchinson.belmont.ma.us/tth/mml/ LaTeXMathML - Looks like a free JavaScript for the job http://www.maths.nott.ac.uk/personal/drw/lm.html I have also seen many people suggest using XSLT to transform the LaTeX into MathML. This seems like the best option to me. Here are some resources for that: http://www.cellml.org/tools/mathml-to-latex-xslt-instructions http://www.orcca.on.ca/MathML/texmml/textomml.html (See stylesheet) http://sourceforge.net/projects/xsltml/ Good Luck, Jon Jon P. Pielaet Program Assistant for Instructional Materials Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406-243-2243 Voice/Text 406-243-4461 Direct Line 406-243-5330 Fax -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:23 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators Sorry folks I hit send on this too soon :0 but you probably get the gist of what I was saying. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:20 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators Thanks I appreciate it. Let me clarify what I am needing to do is go directly from the LaTEX original document. For future content we can design it into the various workflow, this is legacy content in fact some very legacy content. I had looked at this a few years back but none of the tools we worked with in relation to the Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:10 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators Mathtype can do it. In the Preferences menu select Translator and change it to MathML 2.0. then go to the Preferences menu and select Workspac Preferences and check the box to allow Tex input from the keyboard. then you can cut and paste code fro the document into MathType and copy the text from MathType to Paste the MathML into the document that you are working on. It isn't as simple as processing the whole document at once but it works. Here is a sample. >From Notepad \alpha + 2^2 = \theta >From MathType α+ 2 2 =θ Jeff On 3/16/10, Ron Stewart wrote: > Hi all, I am working with a campus where we are working with their locally > produced curriculum and have decided that MathML is preferable to LaTEX in > this particular context. Is anyone aware of any "easy" and reliable LaTEX > to MathML translators? Low or no cost is preferred but a reasonable > commercial solution would also be worth taking a look at. > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > ************************************************************************ **** > *** > > Ron Stewart > > Managing Consultant > > Altformat Solutions LLC > > > > 8300 West Weller St > > Yorktown, IN 47396 > > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > > www.altformatsolutions.com > > > > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From john.gardner at orst.edu Tue Mar 16 11:29:30 2010 From: john.gardner at orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators In-Reply-To: <028f01cac524$98482580$c8d87080$@org> References: <022601cac512$b38f0be0$1aad23a0$@com> <6e84aedd1003160809j6ae55965y3dda1d21aa6ed836@mail.gmail.com> <028f01cac524$98482580$c8d87080$@org> Message-ID: <4B9FCE0A.7080603@orst.edu> Hi Ron, we have used Tex4HT andfound it about as good as anything, better than most. http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/ Converting Latex to XHTML+MathML will nearly always need some human correction. Because it is fairly easy to compose Latex equations that look right but really are not. For example there are several kinds of vertical bars in Latex, and if you use the wrong ones to create determinants, the MathML will just be wrong. Really wrong. There are also usualy problems wit Macros. If you have the orginal styles defining those macros, you can do the translation. If you don't, then some mathematician is gonna have to figure out what they mean inb order to do the translation. So conversion is not trivial, but it's a whole lot easier than re-creating the files. John On 3/16/2010 9:20 AM, Ron Stewart wrote: > Thanks I appreciate it. Let me clarify what I am needing to do is go > directly from the LaTEX original document. For future content we can design > it into the various workflow, this is legacy content in fact some very > legacy content. I had looked at this a few years back but none of the tools > we worked with in relation to the > > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:10 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators > > Mathtype can do it. > In the Preferences menu select Translator and change it to MathML 2.0. > then go to the Preferences menu and select Workspac Preferences and > check the box to allow Tex input from the keyboard. then you can cut > and paste code fro the document into MathType and copy the text from > MathType to Paste the MathML into the document that you are working > on. It isn't as simple as processing the whole document at once but > it works. > Here is a sample. >> From Notepad > \alpha + 2^2 = \theta >> From MathType > > > > α+ > 2 > 2 > > =θ > > > > > > > Jeff > > On 3/16/10, Ron Stewart wrote: >> Hi all, I am working with a campus where we are working with their locally >> produced curriculum and have decided that MathML is preferable to LaTEX in >> this particular context. Is anyone aware of any "easy" and reliable LaTEX >> to MathML translators? Low or no cost is preferred but a reasonable >> commercial solution would also be worth taking a look at. >> >> >> >> Ron Stewart >> >> >> >> > **************************************************************************** >> *** >> >> Ron Stewart >> >> Managing Consultant >> >> Altformat Solutions LLC >> >> >> >> 8300 West Weller St >> >> Yorktown, IN 47396 >> >> Mobile: 609 213-2190 >> >> Fax: 765 405-1484 >> >> >> >> ron@altformatsolutions.com >> >> www.altformatsolutions.com >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From ron at ahead.org Tue Mar 16 11:34:12 2010 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators In-Reply-To: <4B9FCE0A.7080603@orst.edu> References: <022601cac512$b38f0be0$1aad23a0$@com> <6e84aedd1003160809j6ae55965y3dda1d21aa6ed836@mail.gmail.com> <028f01cac524$98482580$c8d87080$@org> <4B9FCE0A.7080603@orst.edu> Message-ID: <02c801cac537$46978a10$d3c69e30$@org> Thanks John and I appreciate your comments about transformations being a non-trivial matter. I see a lot of let's just throw the technology at it, what we are finding nationally is that doing a few documents does not truly show the magnitude of the problems that come up. Luckily most of the issues seem to be pretty consistent so at least they can be somewhat mediated. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of John Gardner Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:29 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators Hi Ron, we have used Tex4HT andfound it about as good as anything, better than most. http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/ Converting Latex to XHTML+MathML will nearly always need some human correction. Because it is fairly easy to compose Latex equations that look right but really are not. For example there are several kinds of vertical bars in Latex, and if you use the wrong ones to create determinants, the MathML will just be wrong. Really wrong. There are also usualy problems wit Macros. If you have the orginal styles defining those macros, you can do the translation. If you don't, then some mathematician is gonna have to figure out what they mean inb order to do the translation. So conversion is not trivial, but it's a whole lot easier than re-creating the files. John On 3/16/2010 9:20 AM, Ron Stewart wrote: > Thanks I appreciate it. Let me clarify what I am needing to do is go > directly from the LaTEX original document. For future content we can design > it into the various workflow, this is legacy content in fact some very > legacy content. I had looked at this a few years back but none of the tools > we worked with in relation to the > > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:10 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] LaTEX MathML Translators > > Mathtype can do it. > In the Preferences menu select Translator and change it to MathML 2.0. > then go to the Preferences menu and select Workspac Preferences and > check the box to allow Tex input from the keyboard. then you can cut > and paste code fro the document into MathType and copy the text from > MathType to Paste the MathML into the document that you are working > on. It isn't as simple as processing the whole document at once but > it works. > Here is a sample. >> From Notepad > \alpha + 2^2 = \theta >> From MathType > > > > α+ > 2 > 2 > > =θ > > > > > > > Jeff > > On 3/16/10, Ron Stewart wrote: >> Hi all, I am working with a campus where we are working with their locally >> produced curriculum and have decided that MathML is preferable to LaTEX in >> this particular context. Is anyone aware of any "easy" and reliable LaTEX >> to MathML translators? Low or no cost is preferred but a reasonable >> commercial solution would also be worth taking a look at. >> >> >> >> Ron Stewart >> >> >> >> > **************************************************************************** >> *** >> >> Ron Stewart >> >> Managing Consultant >> >> Altformat Solutions LLC >> >> >> >> 8300 West Weller St >> >> Yorktown, IN 47396 >> >> Mobile: 609 213-2190 >> >> Fax: 765 405-1484 >> >> >> >> ron@altformatsolutions.com >> >> www.altformatsolutions.com >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From hkramer at colorado.edu Fri Mar 19 14:17:03 2010 From: hkramer at colorado.edu (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Disseminating flyers at CSUN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My message is being held up because of attachment. 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Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From alice.anderson at doit.wisc.edu Mon Mar 22 06:31:20 2010 From: alice.anderson at doit.wisc.edu (Alice Anderson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] StudentVoice - assessment / survey In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20100316062135.0239a1d0@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20100316062135.0239a1d0@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <595D7D36-21A7-4C86-AA59-AD6F116EC5E4@doit.wisc.edu> All, Anyone using, or know about 'Student Voice' http://www.studentvoice.com/app/views/about/ for assessment, data analysis etc. and if so - what is your experience? Input on cross platform and usability especially appreciated. Thanks in advance, Alice Anderson TECHNOLOGY ACCESSIBILITY PROGRAM Division of Information Technology (DoIT) University of Wisconsin-Madison 1210 West Dayton Street (3124) Madison, WI 53706 Telephone: 608.262.2129 From asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca Tue Mar 23 08:05:08 2010 From: asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca (Jennison Mark Asuncion) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Twittering live from the CSUN Conference March 23 - 27 Message-ID: Hello, If you are on Twitter, there are two ways you can follow the goings-on during the International Technology and Persons with Disabilities Conference http://www.csunconference.org this week. First, the hashtag for the conference is #csun10 which all attendees will be using. Second, I will be tweeting using a dedicated username @a11yconf http://www.twitter.com/a11yconf Jennison -- Jennison Mark Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network Google Profile at LinkedIn at From ndogbo at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 05:12:24 2010 From: ndogbo at gmail.com (Nicaise D) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Section 508 advanced draft now available Message-ID: <4baa01f8.9413f30a.02f4.ffffdb85@mx.google.com> in case you didn't see it the Access Board released the new 508 draft regs at http://www.access-board.gov/sec508/refresh/draft-rule.htm Gregg ----------------------- Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D. Director Trace R&D Center Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering and Biomedical Engineering University of Wisconsin-Madison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From hkramer at colorado.edu Wed Mar 24 12:55:55 2010 From: hkramer at colorado.edu (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Helping to Market AHG at CSUN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: [This message is being held by the listserv manager because of attachments. Here is the same message with links to the mentioned docs instead of the attachments]. Speaker RFP: http://www.colorado.edu/ATconference/2010docs/invite%20for%20proposals-AHG_2010.doc Exhibitor Flyer: http://www.colorado.edu/ATconference/2010docs/exhibit%20flyer-2010.pdf On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Howard Kramer wrote: > Dear Colleagues: > > I'm attaching an updated version of the exhibitor flyers and the same > version of the speaker request for proposal flyer. If you printed out the > previous version of the former, I would still use those. Cath > Stager-Kilcommons (cced above) is at CSUN and can provide you with hard > copies of the flyers. You can reach her by email listed above or by phone: > cell: 970-988-4556. > > If you could hand out the RFP flyer at your sessions or wherever you think > appropriate, that would be a great help. > > Thanks, > Howard > > -- > Howard Kramer > AHG Conference Coordinator > Access Specialist > 303-492-8672 > fax: 492-5601 > Disability Services > Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion > -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator Access Specialist 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 Disability Services Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 07:50:40 2010 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Anyone tried PDF Accessibility Wizard???????? Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20100329074821.022bb060@pop.gmail.com> At CSUN Netcentric talked to me about PAW, PDF Accessibility Wizard for Word. A couple years ago, they told me it was coming. It took so long I almost forgot about it. I am assuming it is superior to the Microsoft PDF add-in for Word. I'd greatly appreciate any reports or opinions. Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From ron at ahead.org Mon Mar 29 08:04:41 2010 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Anyone tried PDF Accessibility Wizard???????? In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20100329074821.022bb060@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20100329074821.022bb060@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <021501cacf51$28fcb0b0$7af61210$@org> Hi, believe Sean at Stanford and the folks at the High Tech Center may have evaluated it. They are all on the list, but not sure if they have recovered from CSUN yet. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 10:51 AM To: athen-athenpro.org Subject: [Athen] Anyone tried PDF Accessibility Wizard???????? At CSUN Netcentric talked to me about PAW, PDF Accessibility Wizard for Word. A couple years ago, they told me it was coming. It took so long I almost forgot about it. I am assuming it is superior to the Microsoft PDF add-in for Word. I'd greatly appreciate any reports or opinions. Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at altformatsolutions.com Mon Mar 29 08:10:22 2010 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Wisconsin Accessibility Law Message-ID: <022401cacf51$f56d92e0$e048b8a0$@com> Hi all, is anyone familiar with the proposed accessibility legislation in progress in Wisconsin? Ron Stewart **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbailey at uoregon.edu Mon Mar 29 08:23:21 2010 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Anyone tried PDF Accessibility Wizard???????? In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20100329074821.022bb060@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20100329074821.022bb060@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1269876201.271224.alphamail@mailapps2.uoregon.edu> Hi Norm, I am doing a fairly extensive evaluation of it for my school with some support from NetCentric. I'll pass along info to you as I gather it. James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1501 Kincaid St. Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 07:50:40 -0700, Prof Norm Coombs wrote: > At CSUN Netcentric talked to me about PAW, PDF Accessibility Wizard for > Word. A couple years ago, they told me it was coming. It took so long I > almost forgot about it. I am assuming it is superior to the Microsoft PDF > add-in for Word. > > I'd greatly appreciate any reports or opinions. > > Norm > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve > > Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com > CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information > phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) > ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: > http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From ron at ahead.org Mon Mar 29 08:36:28 2010 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Important notes from AHEAD regarding the Access Text Network Message-ID: <024001cacf55$99da70c0$cd8f5240$@org> Some of you are not AHEAD members so I am forwarding this on. Ron Stewart From: AHEAD [mailto:ahead@ahead.org] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:32 AM To: ron@altformatsolutions.com Subject: Important notes from AHEAD regarding the Access Text Network AHEAD Logo Gradient (blue on white) March 29, 2010 Dear AHEAD members, Many of you are using, have heard about, or are aware of the Access Text Network (ATN) and its work in providing publisher files for the purpose of creating accessible texts. It is a venture of the American Association of Publishers (AAP) implemented through the Alternative Media Access Center at the University of Georgia. This past year has been the Beta period. The preliminary Beta period and free membership with ATN ends this June. As such, institutions who seek to continue their participation in the ATN will need to sign new user agreements with the ATN and pay a modest fee. During the past several months, AHEAD has worked with ATN regarding its process and institutional needs/concerns, especially with regard to the User Agreement requirements. The ATN was receptive to AHEAD's comments and feedback regarding the User Agreement, and made some adjustments that helped clarify terms of use and process relative to institutions, and the need to provide effective services to students. As people assess the utility and potential use of the ATN and other resources, AHEAD is compelled to note certain important points for our members' consideration. . ATN may be a viable short-term solution for a number of members. Publisher files provided will likely need to be converted as they are not user-ready. . AHEAD as a member of the Reading Rights Coalition (RRC) in combination with the American Association of Publishers (AAP) and the Author's Guild is working toward options that create equal access for all at the same time. (see http://www.readingrights.org/2009-advocacy-update) . AHEAD, as noted in its previous position statement (see: http://ahead.org/resources/e-text/position-statement), continues to acknowledge the rights of institutions under the Chaffee Amendmentand the fair use doctrine, to create and provide accessible formats of instructional materials as an accommodation to students with disabilities. Therefore, AHEAD advises members to seek advice of their own university counsel regarding any question as to whether your institution may be relinquishing rights it wishes to retain by signing the ATN User Agreement. . The User Agreement allows ATN/Publishers to ask an institution to "provide documentation evidencing its compliance." The issues of what documentation is expected or required, and who would have access to that documentation remain unclear. AHEAD asserts that appropriate confidentiality and privacy of student records and/or documentation needs to be maintained. . AHEAD will continue to focus on new ways to help institutions provide direct, immediate access (as opposed to converting texts). In summary, consistent with philosophy and practice, AHEAD's involvement in the creation or improvement of any resource that may be beneficial in providing equity of opportunity to students with disabilities in postsecondary education does not constitute or imply any endorsement of that resource. That said, AHEAD feels strongly that its members and member institutions should, in all instances, enter into agreements that have been reviewed and approved by institutional legal counsel and signed by an institutionally authorized signatory. AHEAD looks forward to continuing to provide you with updated information and resources as they become available. If you have specific questions about this particular issue, please contact me at: m.shuttic@okstate.edu Sincerely, Mike Shuttic, President AHEAD _____ Forward email Safe Unsubscribe This email was sent to ron@altformatsolutions.com by ahead@ahead.org. Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe T | Privacy Policy . Email Marketing by AHEAD | 107 Commerce Ctr. Dr. | Suite 204 | Huntersville | NC | 28078 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petri.1 at osu.edu Mon Mar 29 12:12:56 2010 From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Ken Petri) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Anyone tried PDF Accessibility Wizard???????? In-Reply-To: <021501cacf51$28fcb0b0$7af61210$@org> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20100329074821.022bb060@pop.gmail.com> <021501cacf51$28fcb0b0$7af61210$@org> Message-ID: Hi Norm, The University System of Ohio is buying multiple licenses for distribution at reduced cost within the system. PAW is a wizard for Word that walks the user through a series of checks and provides straight-forward means for correcting accessibility problems. It then generates the PDF. The PDFs it generates tend to have cleaner tag structures than what Acrobat produces, especially with regard to table output and source order. NetCentric is also working on a PAW for PowerPoint, which we are hoping will be released later this year. Best regards, ken --- Ken Petri Program Director OSU Web Accessibility Center 102D Pomerene Hall 1760 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43210 Phone: (614) 292-1760 Fax: (614) 292-4190 mailto:petri.1@osu.edu On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Ron Stewart wrote: > Hi, believe Sean at Stanford and the folks at the High Tech Center may have > evaluated it. They are all on the list, but not sure if they have > recovered > from CSUN yet. > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On > Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 10:51 AM > To: athen-athenpro.org > Subject: [Athen] Anyone tried PDF Accessibility Wizard???????? > > At CSUN Netcentric talked to me about PAW, PDF Accessibility Wizard for > Word. A couple years ago, they told me it was coming. It took so long I > almost forgot about it. I am assuming it is superior to the Microsoft PDF > add-in for Word. > > I'd greatly appreciate any reports or opinions. > > Norm > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve > > Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com > CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information > phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) > ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: > http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From easi.easi at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 16:04:44 2010 From: easi.easi at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Anyone tried PDF Accessibility Wizard???????? In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.3.0.2.20100329074821.022bb060@pop.gmail.com> <021501cacf51$28fcb0b0$7af61210$@org> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20100329160423.02357630@pop.gmail.com> Thanks!!. PowerPoint next??? Norm At 12:12 PM 3/29/2010, you wrote: >Hi Norm, > >The University System of Ohio is buying multiple licenses for distribution >at reduced cost within the system. > >PAW is a wizard for Word that walks the user through a series of checks >and provides straight-forward means for correcting accessibility problems. >It then generates the PDF. The PDFs it generates tend to have cleaner tag >structures than what Acrobat produces, especially with regard to table >output and source order. NetCentric is also working on a PAW for >PowerPoint, which we are hoping will be released later this year. > >Best regards, >ken >--- > Ken Petri > Program Director > OSU Web Accessibility Center > 102D Pomerene Hall > 1760 Neil Avenue > Columbus, Ohio 43210 > Phone: (614) 292-1760 > Fax: (614) 292-4190 > mailto:petri.1@osu.edu > > >On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Ron Stewart ><ron@ahead.org> wrote: >Hi, believe Sean at Stanford and the folks at the High Tech Center may have >evaluated it. They are all on the list, but not sure if they have recovered >from CSUN yet. > >Ron > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org >[mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs >Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 10:51 AM >To: athen-athenpro.org >Subject: [Athen] Anyone tried PDF Accessibility Wizard???????? > >At CSUN Netcentric talked to me about PAW, PDF Accessibility Wizard for >Word. A couple years ago, they told me it was coming. It took so long I >almost forgot about it. I am assuming it is superior to the Microsoft PDF >add-in for Word. > >I'd greatly appreciate any reports or opinions. > >Norm > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve > >Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com >CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information >phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) >****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: >http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Athen mailing list >Athen@athenpro.org >http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Mon Mar 29 20:20:18 2010 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Anyone tried PDF Accessibility Wizard???????? In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20100329160423.02357630@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20100329074821.022bb060@pop.gmail.com> <021501cacf51$28fcb0b0$7af61210$@org> <6.0.3.0.2.20100329160423.02357630@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: For fixing PowerPoint accessibility issues, you might also want to look at LecShare and LecShare Pro: http://www.lecshare.com/products.htm - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Mar 29, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Prof Norm Coombs wrote: > Thanks!!. > > PowerPoint next??? > > Norm > At 12:12 PM 3/29/2010, you wrote: >> Hi Norm, >> >> The University System of Ohio is buying multiple licenses for distribution at reduced cost within the system. >> >> PAW is a wizard for Word that walks the user through a series of checks and provides straight-forward means for correcting accessibility problems. It then generates the PDF. The PDFs it generates tend to have cleaner tag structures than what Acrobat produces, especially with regard to table output and source order. NetCentric is also working on a PAW for PowerPoint, which we are hoping will be released later this year. >> >> Best regards, >> ken >> --- >> Ken Petri >> Program Director >> OSU Web Accessibility Center >> 102D Pomerene Hall >> 1760 Neil Avenue >> Columbus, Ohio 43210 >> Phone: (614) 292-1760 >> Fax: (614) 292-4190 >> mailto:petri.1@osu.edu >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Ron Stewart <ron@ahead.org> wrote: >> Hi, believe Sean at Stanford and the folks at the High Tech Center may have >> evaluated it. They are all on the list, but not sure if they have recovered >> from CSUN yet. >> >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >> Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs >> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 10:51 AM >> To: athen-athenpro.org >> Subject: [Athen] Anyone tried PDF Accessibility Wizard???????? >> >> At CSUN Netcentric talked to me about PAW, PDF Accessibility Wizard for >> Word. A couple years ago, they told me it was coming. It took so long I >> almost forgot about it. I am assuming it is superior to the Microsoft PDF >> add-in for Word. >> >> I'd greatly appreciate any reports or opinions. >> >> Norm >> >> >> >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve >> >> Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com >> CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information >> phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) >> ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: >> http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve > > Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com > CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information > phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) > ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: > http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca Mon Mar 29 22:04:57 2010 From: asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca (Jennison Mark Asuncion) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] our CSUN 2010 presentations Message-ID: Hello, For those of you who might be interested, you can download copies of two presentations I participated in at the 25th Annual International Technology and Persons with Disabilities Conference : Preliminary Findings on Social Media Use and Accessibility: A Canadian Perspective and The POSITIVES Scale: A Method for Assessing Technology Accessibility in Postsecondary Education both from http://bit.ly/bQ4r3b Jennison -- Jennison Mark Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network LinkedIn at From petri.1 at osu.edu Tue Mar 30 10:29:48 2010 From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Ken Petri) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Anyone tried PDF Accessibility Wizard???????? In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20100329160423.02357630@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20100329074821.022bb060@pop.gmail.com> <021501cacf51$28fcb0b0$7af61210$@org> <6.0.3.0.2.20100329160423.02357630@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: Right, Norm, PowerPoint is next on their agenda for plug-ins. Again, it will be a wizard that outputs PowerPoint to accessible PDF. NetCentric's primary business is accessible PDF: Remediation, generation, spidering evaluation. Best, ken On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Prof Norm Coombs wrote: > Thanks!!. > > PowerPoint next??? > > Norm > > At 12:12 PM 3/29/2010, you wrote: > >> Hi Norm, >> >> The University System of Ohio is buying multiple licenses for distribution >> at reduced cost within the system. >> >> PAW is a wizard for Word that walks the user through a series of checks >> and provides straight-forward means for correcting accessibility problems. >> It then generates the PDF. The PDFs it generates tend to have cleaner tag >> structures than what Acrobat produces, especially with regard to table >> output and source order. NetCentric is also working on a PAW for PowerPoint, >> which we are hoping will be released later this year. >> >> Best regards, >> ken >> --- >> Ken Petri >> Program Director >> OSU Web Accessibility Center >> 102D Pomerene Hall >> 1760 Neil Avenue >> Columbus, Ohio 43210 >> Phone: (614) 292-1760 >> Fax: (614) 292-4190 >> mailto:petri.1@osu.edu >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Ron Stewart < >> ron@ahead.org> wrote: >> Hi, believe Sean at Stanford and the folks at the High Tech Center may >> have >> evaluated it. They are all on the list, but not sure if they have >> recovered >> from CSUN yet. >> >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org[mailto: >> athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On >> Behalf Of Prof Norm Coombs >> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 10:51 AM >> To: athen-athenpro.org >> Subject: [Athen] Anyone tried PDF Accessibility Wizard???????? >> >> At CSUN Netcentric talked to me about PAW, PDF Accessibility Wizard for >> Word. A couple years ago, they told me it was coming. It took so long I >> almost forgot about it. I am assuming it is superior to the Microsoft PDF >> add-in for Word. >> >> I'd greatly appreciate any reports or opinions. >> >> Norm >> >> >> >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve >> >> Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com >> >> CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information >> phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) >> ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: >> http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Athen mailing list >> Athen@athenpro.org >> http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org >> > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve > > Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com > CEO EASI Equal Access to Software and Information > phone (949) 855-4852 (NOTE pacific time zone) > ****READ ABOUT THE DICK BANKS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP: > http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbailey at uoregon.edu Tue Mar 30 14:06:39 2010 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessible documents and translation Message-ID: <1269983199.575589.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Hi everyone, I increasingly see the assertion that accessible web pages and pdfs tend to translate better than less accessible versions. It makes sense since such documents should be better structured. Is there a source for this idea or is it an urban myth? Thanks, James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1501 Kincaid St. Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu From jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu Wed Mar 31 09:41:59 2010 From: jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu (Pielaet, Jon) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessible documents and translation In-Reply-To: <1269983199.575589.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> References: <1269983199.575589.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002B64E60@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> James and the group, I haven't read anything about the accuracy of translations in accessible versus non-accessible documents. Although it makes sense that the structure of a document could enhance the accuracy of a translation, most translation software is written on such a micro-level it is difficult to say if the accessibility of the document would have any noticeable impact on the outcome of the translation. That being said, the improved hierarchical structure of an accessible webpage may be easier for some translators to parse. The bottom line is accessibility certainly can't hurt the accuracy of a translation. Jon Jon P. Pielaet Program Assistant for Instructional Materials Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406-243-2243 Voice/Text 406-243-4461 Direct Line 406-243-5330 Fax -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:07 PM To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] accessible documents and translation Hi everyone, I increasingly see the assertion that accessible web pages and pdfs tend to translate better than less accessible versions. It makes sense since such documents should be better structured. Is there a source for this idea or is it an urban myth? Thanks, James -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1501 Kincaid St. Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From kcahill at MIT.EDU Wed Mar 31 09:46:42 2010 From: kcahill at MIT.EDU (Kathleen Cahill) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question about OmniPage for Mac In-Reply-To: <1269983199.575589.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> References: <1269983199.575589.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <64E6EEC0B310504E9221AA9658121D0902D3BAC47E@EXPO11.exchange.mit.edu> Hello Colleagues; Does anyone happen to know if the Nuance Omni Page Pro X for Mac works in Snow Leopard (10.6)? As usual, the Nuance website does not clarify. Thank you Kathy From jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu Wed Mar 31 10:27:06 2010 From: jon.pielaet at mso.umt.edu (Pielaet, Jon) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question about OmniPage for Mac In-Reply-To: <64E6EEC0B310504E9221AA9658121D0902D3BAC47E@EXPO11.exchange.mit.edu> References: <1269983199.575589.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> <64E6EEC0B310504E9221AA9658121D0902D3BAC47E@EXPO11.exchange.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6D6D5D870B9D6243922DB0F261E70A0002B64E79@MUMMAILVS2.gs.umt.edu> Kathy, OmniPage Pro X does not work in Snow Leopard. The Amazon reviews have prevented many of my colleagues from purchasing new licenses. Nuance needs to address this. If they already have it would be news to me. Sorry and best of luck, Jon Jon P. Pielaet Program Assistant for Instructional Materials Disability Services for Students Emma B. Lommasson 154 The University of Montana Missoula, MT 59812 www.umt.edu/dss/ 406-243-2243 Voice/Text 406-243-4461 Direct Line 406-243-5330 Fax -----Original Message----- From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:47 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Question about OmniPage for Mac Hello Colleagues; Does anyone happen to know if the Nuance Omni Page Pro X for Mac works in Snow Leopard (10.6)? As usual, the Nuance website does not clarify. Thank you Kathy _______________________________________________ Athen mailing list Athen@athenpro.org http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org From jbailey at uoregon.edu Wed Mar 31 10:27:32 2010 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] primer on LMS and accessibility Message-ID: <1270056452.209286.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Interesting stuff: http://projectone.cannect.org/online-education/lms-accessibility.php -- James Bailey Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon 1501 Kincaid St. Eugene, OR 97403-1299 Office: 541-346-1076 jbailey@uoregon.edu From gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu Wed Mar 31 11:13:55 2010 From: gerrynies at mail.und.nodak.edu (Gerry Nies) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] ImageNow In-Reply-To: <1270056452.209286.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> References: <1270056452.209286.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <4BB34A93020000E00001F0F6@PLUTO.UND.NODAK.EDU> Do any of your offices use ImageNow for managing the paperwork? How accessible is it? Thanks once again Gerry Nies From hadi at illinois.edu Wed Mar 31 11:30:41 2010 From: hadi at illinois.edu (Hadi Rangin) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] primer on LMS and accessibility References: <1270056452.209286.alphamail@mailapps1.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: Great that you found it useful and thanks James for promoting it. Ken and Norm helped me with this project and I think it provide a good introduction into accessibility of LMS and how to create more accessible content. Thanks, Hadi ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bailey" To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:27 PM Subject: [Athen] primer on LMS and accessibility > > Interesting stuff: > http://projectone.cannect.org/online-education/lms-accessibility.php > > -- > James Bailey > Adaptive Technology Access Adviser, University of Oregon > 1501 Kincaid St. > Eugene, OR 97403-1299 > Office: 541-346-1076 > jbailey@uoregon.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Athen mailing list > Athen@athenpro.org > http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org > From skeegan at stanford.edu Wed Mar 31 14:47:37 2010 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:29:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question about Save As DAISY Message-ID: <4BB3C2F9.3080607@stanford.edu> Hi all, I have been playing with the Save As DAISY in MS Word and have a question about how long it can take to create a 450 page book. I choose to create a DAISY book (as opposed to just the XML version) and the DAISY Pipeline TTS Narrator began running. So far, the system has been running for about 2.5 hours. Is this a bit excessive or is this expected? Most of my samples have been done on short 10-20 page documents, so I don't have a great reference for a much longer book. I am working on a virtualized Windows 7 system with 2GB RAM dedicated to the Windows 7 instance (CPU is 2.8 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo). The JAVAW.exe process has maxed out the CPU usage at 98%. Thanks, Sean -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: skeegan.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 332 bytes Desc: not available URL: