From wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu Fri Dec 2 13:28:29 2011 From: wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:38 2018 Subject: [Athen] adaptive technology & IPads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001901ccb139$56636af0$032a40d0$@harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu> Hi all, Our center for teaching & learning along with our IT department have a beta project planned for spring 2012 that involves the development of learning spaces. In this mix, they've applied for and received a grant to purchase a bevy (am not sure how many IPads constitute a bevy) of these computers for interactive classroom use (student use) and for instructors to use for creation & delivery of classroom materials. Our department (Disability Resources) does not have any Apple products because the majority of our adaptive technology works in the IBM/PC environment, and so I am unfamiliar with what technology is native to the Apple environment that addresses the large font/high contrast, screen reading, reading & writing support (such as Read Write Gold), or any other possible technology apps that might work or substitute for a variety of common disabilities. The IT department (of course!) is absolutely saying that Apple is 100% accessible for adaptive technology, and I shrink from absolutes like that! Being a skeptic, I would like to find out from you, my esteemed and knowledgeable colleagues, what apps are built in on IPads, are there additional apps which we could procure & install ahead of time or know where to find them should the need arise. What I would like NOT to happen is to enroll a student in one of these learning environment classes (a classroom with modular furniture and some slick technology) and find out that access for our SWDs does not exist! Nor will the classes be flagged as a learning environment class so we will be in the dark about enrollment until the students are already in the classes. Advice, recommendations, directions (flee, flee!) would be helpful. Thank you in advance for your thoughtful assistance, Wink From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Fri Dec 2 14:19:45 2011 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:38 2018 Subject: [Athen] adaptive technology & IPads In-Reply-To: <4ed9434a.e72e440a.6734.ffffccfdSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <4ed9434a.e72e440a.6734.ffffccfdSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi Wink A decent resource is http://atmac.org/ For blind users VoiceOver makes a great deal of the content on the iPad accessible. Zoom is a decent built in screen magnifier but not as comprehensive as screen magnifiers for desktops. There is no good quick inverse contrast option. The White on Black option in the accessibility settings does not work in all apps. In some cases it doesn't even do a great job in apps released by apple. The feature to jack up the font size also only works well in the Apple apps. Apps are only as accessible as the programmers make them. I have downloaded many apps to test them to find that the interface is not accessible at all. Apple has included an option for labeling buttons in apps that are not labeled properly but this would need to be done on each device. This feature is not a fix for horribly designed apps it's more like a band aid. Many of the accessibility features can be toggled on and off with a triple click of the home button. This feature is under Settings > General > Accessibility > Triple Click the Home Button. The Ask feature can bring up a list of accessibility options. There is a Speak Selection option under the vision heading. This option is supposed to bring up a Speak option with the Copy, Paste, and Cut options after selecting text. I haven?t gotten this feature to work because it doesn?t play nice with VoiceOver. Kurzweil and R&WG are or have released web apps that offer some reading and writing features for people across mobile platforms. If a person were to use these they would need to access them through Safari. Those features would lack the integration of a program like R&WG on a desktop with apps local to the device. There is a Dragon Dictate App that works ok. It would probably work better if they would institute an option for some very basic profile training. When a person dictates they get the text in a little edit field. From there the user can copy and paste the text anywhere they want. Dragon Dictate is the technology that the dictation feature in Siri is built on. Hopefully Apple will be releasing the features of Siri to the iPad 2 soon. I don?t know why they did not allow iPad 2 users to use Siri when iOS 5 was released. It certainly has the system resources for it. It was probably an issue of server traffic. Jeff Cleveland State On 12/2/11, Wink Harner wrote: > Hi all, > > Our center for teaching & learning along with our IT department have a beta > project planned for spring 2012 that involves the development of learning > spaces. In this mix, they've applied for and received a grant to purchase a > bevy (am not sure how many IPads constitute a bevy) of these computers for > interactive classroom use (student use) and for instructors to use for > creation & delivery of classroom materials. > > Our department (Disability Resources) does not have any Apple products > because the majority of our adaptive technology works in the IBM/PC > environment, and so I am unfamiliar with what technology is native to the > Apple environment that addresses the large font/high contrast, screen > reading, reading & writing support (such as Read Write Gold), or any other > possible technology apps that might work or substitute for a variety of > common disabilities. > > The IT department (of course!) is absolutely saying that Apple is 100% > accessible for adaptive technology, and I shrink from absolutes like that! > Being a skeptic, I would like to find out from you, my esteemed and > knowledgeable colleagues, what apps are built in on IPads, are there > additional apps which we could procure & install ahead of time or know where > to find them should the need arise. > > What I would like NOT to happen is to enroll a student in one of these > learning environment classes (a classroom with modular furniture and some > slick technology) and find out that access for our SWDs does not exist! Nor > will the classes be flagged as a learning environment class so we will be in > the dark about enrollment until the students are already in the classes. > > Advice, recommendations, directions (flee, flee!) would be helpful. > > Thank you in advance for your thoughtful assistance, > > Wink > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > From vasquez at sbcc.edu Fri Dec 2 20:35:38 2011 From: vasquez at sbcc.edu (Laurie Vasquez) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:38 2018 Subject: [Athen] Presidential Proclamation -- International Day of Persons with Disabilities Message-ID: <4ED9369B020000F8000879BB@gwv2.sbcc.net> Presidential Proclamation -- International Day of Persons with Disabilities The White House Office of the Press Secretary For Immediate Release December 02, 2011 Presidential Proclamation -- International Day of Persons with Disabilities By the President of the United States of America A Proclamation On International Day of Persons with Disabilities, we recommit to ensuring people living with disabilities enjoy full equality and unhindered participation in all facets of our national life. We recognize the myriad contributions that persons with disabilities make at home and abroad, and we remember that disability rights are universal rights to be recognized and promoted around the world. For decades, America has been a global leader in advancing the rights of people with disabilities. From the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 to the Twenty-First Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act, which I signed last year, we have striven to bring the American dream and comprehensive opportunities in education, health care, and employment within reach for every individual. These actions --made possible only through the tireless and ongoing efforts of the disability community -- affirm our commitment to an equitable and just society where every American can play a part in securing a prosperous future for our Nation. To fulfill this promise not only in America, but around the world, my Administration is putting disability rights at the heart of our Nation's foreign policy. With leadership from the Department of State and the United States Agency for International Development, we are collaborating across governments and in close consultation with the global disability community to expand access to education, health care, HIV/AIDS prevention and treatment, and other development programs. In 2009, we signed the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, which seeks to ensure persons with disabilities enjoy the same rights and opportunities as all people. If ratified, the Convention would provide a platform to encourage other countries to join and implement the Convention, laying a foundation for enhanced benefits and greater protections for the millions of Americans with disabilities who spend time abroad. We know from the historic struggle for disability rights in the United States that disability inclusion is an ongoing effort, and many challenges remain in securing fundamental human rights for all persons with disabilities around the world. On International Day of Persons with Disabilities, we press forward, renewing our dedication to embrace diversity, end discrimination, remove barriers, and uphold the rights, dignity, and equal opportunity of all people. NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim December 3, 2011, as International Day of Persons with Disabilities. I call on all Americans to observe this day with appropriate ceremonies, activities, and programs. 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The rate does go up as of January 12, so register early if you can. - registration information, including early bird rate, discounts and scholarships http://www.csun.edu/cod/conference/RegistrationInformation.php - online registration opens Monday December 5 http://www.RegOnline.com/CSUN12 - Pre-Conference Workshops February 27-28 http://www.csun.edu/cod/conference/preconf.php - Knowbility's?AccessU at CSUN February 27-28 http://www.csun.edu/cod/conference/accessu.php - Newsletter (provides conference background) http://www.csun.edu/cod/conference/newsletter.php#2011fall If you plan to attend, consider RSVPing on Lanyrd http://www.lanyrd.com/2012/csun and/or on LinkedIn http://linkd.in/vxZ3Gg Jennison -- Jennison Mark Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/jennison From Vasquez at sbcc.edu Tue Dec 6 12:40:19 2011 From: Vasquez at sbcc.edu (Laurie Vasquez) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: [Pscpublic] FW: AIM Commission Final Report is attached... 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The Advisory Commission on Accessible Instructional Materials in Postsecondary Education for Students with Disabilities published the report following a 14-month study on the issue. The commission found that although efforts have been made to provide visually impaired students with adequate digital materials, many students* needs are still not being met. Oftentimes, the study found, the task of providing adequate instructional materials for blind students falls on professors, such as in the case of a blind student in Texas reported in an earlier Wired Campus post. In the report the commission offers Congress 18 recommendations for improving access to materials for students. These recommendations fall under five categories: legal and policy, market solutions, technology, capacity building, and demonstration projects. The report calls on Congress or the administration to: Review the Copyright Act (section 121, the Chafee Amendment) to determine whether it should be updated to address the needs of visually impaired students. Consider incentives to accelerate innovation by publishers and producers of accessible course materials, hardware, and software. Support the development of coordinated search capabilities that let students make a single online search to easily locate accessible resources. Sponsor projects and programs to support professional development to help faculty and staff members select, produce, and deliver accessible instructional materials. Appropriate funds to the Department of Education to support projects to develop instructional materials in science and engineering courses and laboratory classes. From Dave.M.Thomas at studentlife.du.edu Wed Dec 7 14:40:11 2011 From: Dave.M.Thomas at studentlife.du.edu (Dave M. Thomas) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon Dictate & Programming Message-ID: Good afternoon! I just met with a student who wants to explore using Dragon Dictate to compensate for partial paralysis. He is studying computer programming and gaming (video game creation). He told me that by and large the languages used are Mac MSP, Java, and C. Will it be feasible to use Dragon Dictate to do such programming? Will it be so challenging that he will succumb to frustration? Does anybody know of individuals using Dragon Dictate for similar work? Thank you very much in advance for any thoughts. Happy holidays to one and all! Sincerely, Dave Thomas Dave Thomas, Assistive Technology Specialist University of Denver Katherine A. Ruffatto Hall, 4th Floor 1999 E. Evans Ave. Denver, CO 80208 Phone: 303-871-2269 Fax: 303-871-2248 E-mail: dave.m.thomas@du.edu . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Participating institutions will do their own filming, then deliver the raw footage to the University of Washington, where we'll do the editing, add captions and audio description, and produce the final product. If there's a cost for filming, we can help with that. For anyone who has access to the leaders on their campuses, and would like to participate in this project, please let me know. We're hoping to have received all footage by January 13. Thanks! Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Information Technology University of Washington tft@uw.edu 206-221-4168 From winkharner at mesacc.edu Wed Dec 7 14:55:43 2011 From: winkharner at mesacc.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon Dictate & Programming In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <014701ccb533$58eabc80$0ac03580$@edu> Dave et al He may need some assistance but here's some valuable (maybe!) advice: create a vocabulary list for these classes either by having him dictate the vocabulary a few words at a time and saving his vocabulary, or having someone type up a vocab list that he saves on his computer (can be a word document or in email format). These word lists can be scanned with OCR & saved as well. Dragon can mine his hard drive or flash drive for vocabulary. He can spend some prep time training the computer to recognize the words before he's in class. Also, with someone from CIS helping, he could create some macros in advance so that certain repeated formulas or strings can be created in advance. Vocabulary is vocabulary, whether it's Spanish, JAVA or C+. It's a matter of having someone help him type in the "spell" window and having him "train" the program to recognize how he's going to say that code line. Is it impossible? NO WAY!! Will it take some work to get it to do what he wants? Yes, and it won't happen out of the box. I worked with some students who were fluent in Chinese (spoken) and in written English. They typed the English into the "spell" box and trained it by voicing the Chinese equivalent for the English word. And they were grad school engineers (figures)! Let me know off-line if you need more help. Also there is someone on our list who knows a Dragon troubleshooter. Also, you might contact Nancilu McClellan of Math Talk for advice on how to train mathematical phrases with Dragon (Math Talk & Scientific Notebook). She may have advice on how to train complex vocabularies. Hope this is helpful. Wink Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College 1833 W. Southern Avenue Mesa AZ 85202 480-461-7447 Fax: 480-461-7907 From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Dave M. Thomas Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 3:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Dragon Dictate & Programming Good afternoon! I just met with a student who wants to explore using Dragon Dictate to compensate for partial paralysis. He is studying computer programming and gaming (video game creation). He told me that by and large the languages used are Mac MSP, Java, and C. Will it be feasible to use Dragon Dictate to do such programming? Will it be so challenging that he will succumb to frustration? Does anybody know of individuals using Dragon Dictate for similar work? Thank you very much in advance for any thoughts. Happy holidays to one and all! Sincerely, Dave Thomas Dave Thomas, Assistive Technology Specialist University of Denver Katherine A. Ruffatto Hall, 4th Floor 1999 E. Evans Ave. Denver, CO 80208 Phone: 303-871-2269 Fax: 303-871-2248 E-mail: dave.m.thomas@du.edu . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Wed Dec 7 14:54:11 2011 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: New Project Director Position at the UCLA Tarjan Center Message-ID: <3D72CF1DD65B4647A3DEFFC75AD50F79@htctu.fhda.edu> Subject: New Project Director Position at the UCLA Tarjan Center The Tarjan Center at UCLA was recently awarded a 5-year federal systems change grant to establish the California Employment Consortium for Youth and Young Adults with Intellectual and Other Developmental Disabilities. The incumbent will report to me and serve as Project Director. I am reaching out to you today in the hope you will spread the word to potential candidates about this position. Thanks! Olivia Raynor, Ph.D. Director, Tarjan Center at UCLA Adjunct Professor, Dept. of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral Sciences University of California Los Angeles NEW ADDRESS 11075 Santa Monica Blvd, Ste 208 Los Angeles, CA 90025 Tel: 310-794-1141 Fax: 310-794-1143 Email: oraynor@mednet.ucla.edu www.semel.ucla.edu/tarjan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon Dictate & Programming In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008001ccb5b8$f1d3eef0$d57bccd0$@ngtvoice.com> Dave- to clarify...is this user using Dragon NaturallySpeaking (PC version) or Dragon Dictate for Mac? We've got extensive experience in the field of using speech rec in the coding endeavor, but my reply will be impacted by the above question/answer.-ed. Yours sincerely, Edward S. Rosenthal President and CEO Next Generation Technologies, Inc. (NGT, Inc.) 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 Lynnwood, Wa. 98036 425-744-1100 ext.15 EM: edward@ngtvoice.com URL: http://www.ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Dave M. Thomas Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Dragon Dictate & Programming Good afternoon! I just met with a student who wants to explore using Dragon Dictate to compensate for partial paralysis. He is studying computer programming and gaming (video game creation). He told me that by and large the languages used are Mac MSP, Java, and C. Will it be feasible to use Dragon Dictate to do such programming? Will it be so challenging that he will succumb to frustration? Does anybody know of individuals using Dragon Dictate for similar work? Thank you very much in advance for any thoughts. Happy holidays to one and all! Sincerely, Dave Thomas Dave Thomas, Assistive Technology Specialist University of Denver Katherine A. Ruffatto Hall, 4th Floor 1999 E. Evans Ave. Denver, CO 80208 Phone: 303-871-2269 Fax: 303-871-2248 E-mail: dave.m.thomas@du.edu . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From R.M.Nind at shu.ac.uk Thu Dec 8 10:56:12 2011 From: R.M.Nind at shu.ac.uk (Nind, Rich M) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon Dictate & Programming In-Reply-To: <008001ccb5b8$f1d3eef0$d57bccd0$@ngtvoice.com> References: <008001ccb5b8$f1d3eef0$d57bccd0$@ngtvoice.com> Message-ID: <5173F498B3356243A960A3942F9628C702FE618DF5@HOLLYHOCK.hallam.shu.ac.uk> I can't see why Dragon couldn't be used for coding - you could use Macros to do parentheses, function statements etc. You could add to the lexicon the most common programming functions/declarations that needed to be called from the APIs, and use spell mode to dictate unknown ones (then do train word to add to lexicon). If the chosen code editor isn't accessible, then Dragon Pro could be used to do mouse imitating macros to quicken things up. I've been out of programming for a long time now, but as far as I remember most coding progs were just souped up text editors. Drawing controls in something like Visual Studio would be more tricky, albeit not impossible.. Thanks Rich Rich Nind Technical Advisor Disabled Student Support Team Sheffield Hallam University (0114) 2255311 r.m.nind@shu.ac.uk From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ed. Rosenthal Sent: 08 December 2011 14:52 To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] Dragon Dictate & Programming Dave- to clarify...is this user using Dragon NaturallySpeaking (PC version) or Dragon Dictate for Mac? We've got extensive experience in the field of using speech rec in the coding endeavor, but my reply will be impacted by the above question/answer.-ed. Yours sincerely, Edward S. Rosenthal President and CEO Next Generation Technologies, Inc. (NGT, Inc.) 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 Lynnwood, Wa. 98036 425-744-1100 ext.15 EM: edward@ngtvoice.com URL: http://www.ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 [cid:image001.jpg@01CCB5DA.BB5F8880] From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Dave M. Thomas Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Dragon Dictate & Programming Good afternoon! I just met with a student who wants to explore using Dragon Dictate to compensate for partial paralysis. He is studying computer programming and gaming (video game creation). He told me that by and large the languages used are Mac MSP, Java, and C. Will it be feasible to use Dragon Dictate to do such programming? Will it be so challenging that he will succumb to frustration? Does anybody know of individuals using Dragon Dictate for similar work? Thank you very much in advance for any thoughts. Happy holidays to one and all! Sincerely, Dave Thomas Dave Thomas, Assistive Technology Specialist University of Denver Katherine A. Ruffatto Hall, 4th Floor 1999 E. Evans Ave. Denver, CO 80208 Phone: 303-871-2269 Fax: 303-871-2248 E-mail: dave.m.thomas@du.edu . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Things like "int" or "std" come to mind. Another tool for customization would be Text Macros. An example of a Text Macro is: I speak a voice command like "Standard Greeting" and Dragon Dictate inserts the text "Ladies and Gentlemen:". Creating custom Text Macros for frequently used terminology and context for a particular programming language would be another part of the necessary customization to make dictating code a truly efficient process. David Popovitch Product Manager, Dragon Nuance Communications, Inc. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Thu Dec 8 14:04:42 2011 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] (no subject) Message-ID: Hi all! Please forgive cross-posts/reposts. Attached is the final report of the AIM Commission. Negotiating the writing of this report was an intense, at times overwhelming, effort. The commission achieved consensus on the report, with every member signing off on it. What this means is that everyone compromised so that all voices were included. Many advocates would have liked stronger language; many in industry leaders would have liked less forceful language. We tried to find a middle road that all could agree to. In the final analysis of expert testimony and public comment, what stands out clearly is that accessibility cannot be accomplished by one individual, one institution, or even one industry. Full inclusion for every American will come only when we as a society make accessibility a consideration at every step of the process: from including accessibility as part of the curriculum when educating the next generation of engineers, computer scientists, and Web designers; to designing accessibility into hardware; to developing production software that prompts for accessibility; to creating software that operates with assistive technology; to providing mechanisms for capturing data about accessibility; to ensuring that accessible media can be easily searched for and found. We need every link in the chain to be strong in order to forge opportunity for success. What can you do? Now that the report has been released, you can contact your U.S. senator and U.S. representatives and let them know your views. This document is a starting point; what is done with this document will depend on the democratic process. So if you wish to, let your voice be heard and become part of that process. Gaeir Dietrich AIM Commission Chair ### AIM COMMISSION RELEASES REPORT ON DISPARITIES IN POSTSECONDARY LEARNING MATERIAL FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES The Advisory Commission on Accessible Instructional Materials (AIM) in Postsecondary Education for Students with Disabilities released today a report providing Congress with vital recommendations for improving the ability of postsecondary students with disabilities to obtain accessible instructional materials in a timely and cost-effective manner. "The AIM Commission's report sheds light on the hurdles students with disabilities too often face in accessing and completing higher education courses," said U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan. "Their recommendations will help our colleges and universities offer more effective resources that meet the needs of all students and provide students with disabilities the 21st century learning tools they need to be successful." Established by the Higher Education Opportunity Act of 2008, the commission brought together government leaders, representatives from the publishing industry, individuals with print disabilities, representatives from two- and four-year institutions of higher education, leaders in accessible technology, and other stakeholders. Over the course of 14 months, commission members studied the current state of accessible materials for students with disabilities in postsecondary education. Comprised of various stakeholders, including students with disabilities, members of the publishing community, higher education personnel, and content experts in the fields of disability and technology, the commission offered diverse perspectives on the state of accessible instructional materials across postsecondary campuses nationwide. The commission's study found that: * Students with disabilities, and most notably students with print disabilities, often experience a variety of challenges that result from inaccessible learning materials and/or their delivery systems. * Disability resource service providers and other university personnel often must engage in labor-intensive practices to provide accessible instructional materials to students with disabilities. * Textbook publishers and a number of electronic text vendors are moving to incorporate accessibility into their products, but many products are still inaccessible to students with disabilities who have difficulties accessing printed text. * Opportunities for capacity building within postsecondary educational institutions are essential for improving the ability of these institutions to provide accessible instructional materials to students with disabilities. The commission members reached consensus on 18 recommendations to address the findings of its study. Recommendations include: * Congress should authorize the United States Access Board to establish guidelines for accessible instructional materials that will be used by government, in the private sector, and in postsecondary academic settings. * Congress should consider incentives to accelerate innovation in accessibility by publishers and producers of course materials, hardware, and software by offering support and inducements for the production, sale, and consumption of accessible instructional materials and delivery systems. * The commission recommends that federally sponsored projects and programs encourage and support systematic faculty and staff professional development with respect to selection, production, and delivery of high-quality accessible instruction materials to meet the needs of students with disabilities in postsecondary settings. Dr. Alexa Posny, assistant secretary of the Office of Special Education and Rehabilitative Services notes, "Given the growing population of students with disabilities pursuing higher education, this report will be a valuable resource in improving our ability to better serve students with disabilities while also helping more students' complete postsecondary programs." A complete list of the commission's recommendations is available at http://www2.ed.gov/about/bdscomm/list/aim/publications.html. For more on the Advisory Commission on Accessible Instructional Materials (AIM) in Postsecondary Education for Students with Disabilities, visit http://www2.ed.gov/about/bdscomm/list/aim/index.html. ### -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: AIM_Commission_Report_12 6 11_FINAL.DOC Type: application/msword Size: 1016832 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu Thu Dec 8 14:20:52 2011 From: jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu (Julie Balassa) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Gaeir. What a lot of hard work! You and your team have done your part in moving forward the accessibility cause. jkb From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 5:05 PM To: 'Alternate Media'; 'DSP&S Directors Listserver'; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'; caped@htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu Subject: [Athen] (no subject) Hi all! Please forgive cross-posts/reposts. Attached is the final report of the AIM Commission. Negotiating the writing of this report was an intense, at times overwhelming, effort. The commission achieved consensus on the report, with every member signing off on it. What this means is that everyone compromised so that all voices were included. Many advocates would have liked stronger language; many in industry leaders would have liked less forceful language. We tried to find a middle road that all could agree to. In the final analysis of expert testimony and public comment, what stands out clearly is that accessibility cannot be accomplished by one individual, one institution, or even one industry. Full inclusion for every American will come only when we as a society make accessibility a consideration at every step of the process: from including accessibility as part of the curriculum when educating the next generation of engineers, computer scientists, and Web designers; to designing accessibility into hardware; to developing production software that prompts for accessibility; to creating software that operates with assistive technology; to providing mechanisms for capturing data about accessibility; to ensuring that accessible media can be easily searched for and found. We need every link in the chain to be strong in order to forge opportunity for success. What can you do? Now that the report has been released, you can contact your U.S. senator and U.S. representatives and let them know your views. This document is a starting point; what is done with this document will depend on the democratic process. So if you wish to, let your voice be heard and become part of that process. Gaeir Dietrich AIM Commission Chair ### AIM COMMISSION RELEASES REPORT ON DISPARITIES IN POSTSECONDARY LEARNING MATERIAL FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES The Advisory Commission on Accessible Instructional Materials (AIM) in Postsecondary Education for Students with Disabilities released today a report providing Congress with vital recommendations for improving the ability of postsecondary students with disabilities to obtain accessible instructional materials in a timely and cost-effective manner. "The AIM Commission's report sheds light on the hurdles students with disabilities too often face in accessing and completing higher education courses," said U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan. "Their recommendations will help our colleges and universities offer more effective resources that meet the needs of all students and provide students with disabilities the 21st century learning tools they need to be successful." Established by the Higher Education Opportunity Act of 2008, the commission brought together government leaders, representatives from the publishing industry, individuals with print disabilities, representatives from two- and four-year institutions of higher education, leaders in accessible technology, and other stakeholders. Over the course of 14 months, commission members studied the current state of accessible materials for students with disabilities in postsecondary education. Comprised of various stakeholders, including students with disabilities, members of the publishing community, higher education personnel, and content experts in the fields of disability and technology, the commission offered diverse perspectives on the state of accessible instructional materials across postsecondary campuses nationwide. The commission's study found that: * Students with disabilities, and most notably students with print disabilities, often experience a variety of challenges that result from inaccessible learning materials and/or their delivery systems. * Disability resource service providers and other university personnel often must engage in labor-intensive practices to provide accessible instructional materials to students with disabilities. * Textbook publishers and a number of electronic text vendors are moving to incorporate accessibility into their products, but many products are still inaccessible to students with disabilities who have difficulties accessing printed text. * Opportunities for capacity building within postsecondary educational institutions are essential for improving the ability of these institutions to provide accessible instructional materials to students with disabilities. The commission members reached consensus on 18 recommendations to address the findings of its study. Recommendations include: * Congress should authorize the United States Access Board to establish guidelines for accessible instructional materials that will be used by government, in the private sector, and in postsecondary academic settings. * Congress should consider incentives to accelerate innovation in accessibility by publishers and producers of course materials, hardware, and software by offering support and inducements for the production, sale, and consumption of accessible instructional materials and delivery systems. * The commission recommends that federally sponsored projects and programs encourage and support systematic faculty and staff professional development with respect to selection, production, and delivery of high-quality accessible instruction materials to meet the needs of students with disabilities in postsecondary settings. Dr. Alexa Posny, assistant secretary of the Office of Special Education and Rehabilitative Services notes, "Given the growing population of students with disabilities pursuing higher education, this report will be a valuable resource in improving our ability to better serve students with disabilities while also helping more students' complete postsecondary programs." A complete list of the commission's recommendations is available at http://www2.ed.gov/about/bdscomm/list/aim/publications.html. For more on the Advisory Commission on Accessible Instructional Materials (AIM) in Postsecondary Education for Students with Disabilities, visit http://www2.ed.gov/about/bdscomm/list/aim/index.html. ### -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From winkharner at mesacc.edu Thu Dec 8 14:26:01 2011 From: winkharner at mesacc.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I applaud you and the entire commission, all those who had input and who worked so diligently on this. Great job! Thank you for making a difference for this generation and for those to come. Wink ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaeir Dietrich" To: "Alternate Media" , "DSP&S Directors Listserver" , "Access Technology Higher Education Network" , caped@htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 3:04:42 PM Subject: [Athen] (no subject) Hi all! Please forgive cross-posts/reposts. Attached is the final report of the AIM Commission. Negotiating the writing of this report was an intense, at times overwhelming, effort. The commission achieved consensus on the report, with every member signing off on it. What this means is that everyone compromised so that all voices were included. Many advocates would have liked stronger language; many in industry leaders would have liked less forceful language. We tried to find a middle road that all could agree to. In the final analysis of expert testimony and public comment, what stands out clearly is that accessibility cannot be accomplished by one individual, one institution, or even one industry. Full inclusion for every American will come only when we as a society make accessibility a consideration at every step of the process: from including accessibility as part of the curriculum when educating the next generation of engineers, computer scientists, and Web designers; to designing accessibility into hardware; to developing production software that prompts for accessibility; to creating software that operates with assistive technology; to providing mechanisms for capturing data about accessibility; to ensuring that accessible media can be easily searched for and found. We need every link in the chain to be strong in order to forge opportunity for success. What can you do? Now that the report has been released, you can contact your U.S. senator and U.S. representatives and let them know your views. This document is a starting point; what is done with this document will depend on the democratic process. So if you wish to, let your voice be heard and become part of that process. Gaeir Dietrich AIM Commission Chair ### AIM COMMISSION RELEASES REPORT ON DISPARITIES IN POSTSECONDARY LEARNING MATERIAL FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES The Advisory Commission on Accessible Instructional Materials (AIM) in Postsecondary Education for Students with Disabilities released today a report providing Congress with vital recommendations for improving the ability of postsecondary students with disabilities to obtain accessible instructional materials in a timely and cost-effective manner. " The AIM Commission's report sheds light on the hurdles students with disabilities too often face in accessing and completing higher education courses," said U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan. "Their recommendations will help our colleges and universities offer more effective resources that meet the needs of all students and provide students with disabilities the 21st century learning tools they need to be successful." Established by the Higher Education Opportunity Act of 2008, the commission brought together government leaders, representatives from the publishing industry, individuals with print disabilities, representatives from two- and four-year institutions of higher education, leaders in accessible technology, and other stakeholders. Over the course of 14 months, commission members studied the current state of accessible materials for students with disabilities in postsecondary education. Comprised of various stakeholders, including students with disabilities, members of the publishing community, higher education personnel, and content experts in the fields of disability and technology, the commission offered diverse perspectives on the state of accessible instructional materials across postsecondary campuses nationwide. The commission?s study found that: ? Students with disabilities, and most notably students with print disabilities, often experience a variety of challenges that result from inaccessible learning materials and/or their delivery systems. ? Disability resource service providers and other university personnel often must engage in labor-intensive practices to provide accessible instructional materials to students with disabilities. ? Textbook publishers and a number of electronic text vendors are moving to incorporate accessibility into their products, but many products are still inaccessible to students with disabilities who have difficulties accessing printed text. ? Opportunities for capacity building within postsecondary educational institutions are essential for improving the ability of these institutions to provide accessible instructional materials to students with disabilities. The commission members reached consensus on 18 recommendations to address the findings of its study. Recommendations include: ? Congress should authorize the United States Access Board to establish guidelines for accessible instructional materials that will be used by government, in the private sector, and in postsecondary academic settings. ? Congress should consider incentives to accelerate innovation in accessibility by publishers and producers of course materials, hardware, and software by offering support and inducements for the production, sale, and consumption of accessible instructional materials and delivery systems. ? The commission recommends that federally sponsored projects and programs encourage and support systematic faculty and staff professional development with respect to selection, production, and delivery of high-quality accessible instruction materials to meet the needs of students with disabilities in postsecondary settings. Dr. Alexa Posny, assistant secretary of the Office of Special Education and Rehabilitative Services notes, ?Given the growing population of students with disabilities pursuing higher education, this report will be a valuable resource in improving our ability to better serve students with disabilities while also helping more students' complete postsecondary programs.? A complete list of the commission?s recommend ations is available at http://www2.ed.gov/about/bdscomm/list/aim/publications.html . For more on the Advisory Commission on Accessible Instructional Materials (AIM) in Postsecondary Education for Students with Disabilities, visit http://www2.ed.gov/about/bdscomm/list/aim/index.html . ### _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Ms. Wink Harner Manager Disability Resources & Services Mesa Community College 1833 W. Southern Avenue Mesa AZ 85201 480-461-7447 winkharner@mesacc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edward at ngtvoice.com Fri Dec 9 11:17:22 2011 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon Dictate & Programming :response from product manager of nuance In-Reply-To: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC004DC4E3C@ebe1.umassb.net> References: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC004DC4E3C@ebe1.umassb.net> Message-ID: <005b01ccb6a7$2ebe2a30$8c3a7e90$@ngtvoice.com> I think David's done a nice job of articulating some of the challenges of writing/editing code with Dragon NaturallySpeaking, so let me build on his comments: 1. If this person was a 'coder' previously that will be both helpful and challenging. Helpful because he knows what needs doing from a code standpoint, challenging because 'speechifying' the coding environment will be slower than he'd be used to with pure manual input. Generally, when I work with folks who need to use Dragon in support of code writing I emphasize the concept of an old favorite input" were the use Dragon for the things it can do well, and use their mouse/keyboard for the things it does not - this user may or may not be able to do much mouse/keyboard activity - he/she may also want to consider an adaptive keyboard/mouse combination if at all viable (have you ever looked at Vivo Mouse?) 2. Dragon Pro has a number of utilities that will be helpful in this regard: - using the "import a list of words or phrases" on the Vocabulary menu of Dragon NaturallySpeaking 11 Pro would allow him to construct a list of commonly used technical term/programming elements - he can then add spoken form equivalents by either using a switch ( / ) when importing the list or after the fact in the vocabulary editor - it might be interesting to have it use the "learn from specific documents" as well where he selects a specific number of pertinent coding documents, or perhaps point to a coding manual, to see that provides any improvement 3. Much of the code writing/assembly process involves copying and pasting an existing line of code into the next line and he should find Dragon very adept at this. Keep in mind that he can use concatenated commands like "select next four characters", "select previous five words", "select line" and so on and then executed a copy function (or similar) and then use navigation commands to go to a specified location and perform a paste function. 4. Dragon NaturallySpeaking does support spelling by voice and I frequently use "on the fly" spelling commands; in addition, Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional supports spell mode, and he would probably find this to be very helpful as it would allow him to inject individual characters in a string - particularly if he learns the international communication alphabet (alpha, bravo, etc.). 5. Because the Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional application is scriptable he will be able to write commands to create code that will be helpful in assembling. There used to be an application called CodeVox which was developed by David Jeschke; who was a programmer at Microsoft and develop repetitive stress injury. I do not know if this product is still available were being developed, but it did introduce a number of voice commands that would help code writers in the code assembly process. With all that said however I find that many of the people that want to write code and manage code using speech recognition technology find it a frustrating transition. That is probably "too much information", but I hope it is helpful. good luck! -ed. Yours sincerely, Edward S. Rosenthal President and CEO Next Generation Technologies, Inc. (NGT, Inc.) 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 Lynnwood, Wa. 98036 425-744-1100 ext.15 EM: edward@ngtvoice.com URL: http://www.ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kenneth Elkind Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:55 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Dragon Dictate & Programming :response from product manager of nuance Sorry about the confusion that may have caused about Dragon NaturallySpeaking for PC Here's the response from a product manager of nuance about Dragon dictate for the Mac. * Group: Dragon NaturallySpeaking * Discussion: Dragon Dictate & Programming Mr. Thomas, While technically it is possible to use the Dragon Dictate for Mac software to produce the characters, punctuation marks and symbols one uses to write code, without a lot of customization, it may not be that practical to do so. One would have to use Spelling Mode to spell out anything that is not in our vocabulary and add that word as a custom word. Things like "int" or "std" come to mind. Another tool for customization would be Text Macros. An example of a Text Macro is: I speak a voice command like "Standard Greeting" and Dragon Dictate inserts the text "Ladies and Gentlemen:". Creating custom Text Macros for frequently used terminology and context for a particular programming language would be another part of the necessary customization to make dictating code a truly efficient process. David Popovitch Product Manager, Dragon Nuance Communications, Inc. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Fri Dec 9 12:53:55 2011 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon Dictate & Programming :response from product manager of nuance In-Reply-To: <005b01ccb6a7$2ebe2a30$8c3a7e90$@ngtvoice.com> References: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC004DC4E3C@ebe1.umassb.net> <005b01ccb6a7$2ebe2a30$8c3a7e90$@ngtvoice.com> Message-ID: Speaking of the international radio alphabet code; here is a large print version I did that everyone is welcome to. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ _____ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ed. Rosenthal Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 11:17 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] Dragon Dictate & Programming :response from productmanager of nuance I think David's done a nice job of articulating some of the challenges of writing/editing code with Dragon NaturallySpeaking, so let me build on his comments: 1. If this person was a 'coder' previously that will be both helpful and challenging. Helpful because he knows what needs doing from a code standpoint, challenging because 'speechifying' the coding environment will be slower than he'd be used to with pure manual input. Generally, when I work with folks who need to use Dragon in support of code writing I emphasize the concept of an old favorite input" were the use Dragon for the things it can do well, and use their mouse/keyboard for the things it does not - this user may or may not be able to do much mouse/keyboard activity - he/she may also want to consider an adaptive keyboard/mouse combination if at all viable (have you ever looked at Vivo Mouse?) 2. Dragon Pro has a number of utilities that will be helpful in this regard: - using the "import a list of words or phrases" on the Vocabulary menu of Dragon NaturallySpeaking 11 Pro would allow him to construct a list of commonly used technical term/programming elements - he can then add spoken form equivalents by either using a switch ( / ) when importing the list or after the fact in the vocabulary editor - it might be interesting to have it use the "learn from specific documents" as well where he selects a specific number of pertinent coding documents, or perhaps point to a coding manual, to see that provides any improvement 3. Much of the code writing/assembly process involves copying and pasting an existing line of code into the next line and he should find Dragon very adept at this. Keep in mind that he can use concatenated commands like "select next four characters", "select previous five words", "select line" and so on and then executed a copy function (or similar) and then use navigation commands to go to a specified location and perform a paste function. 4. Dragon NaturallySpeaking does support spelling by voice and I frequently use "on the fly" spelling commands; in addition, Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional supports spell mode, and he would probably find this to be very helpful as it would allow him to inject individual characters in a string - particularly if he learns the international communication alphabet (alpha, bravo, etc.). 5. Because the Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional application is scriptable he will be able to write commands to create code that will be helpful in assembling. There used to be an application called CodeVox which was developed by David Jeschke; who was a programmer at Microsoft and develop repetitive stress injury. I do not know if this product is still available were being developed, but it did introduce a number of voice commands that would help code writers in the code assembly process. With all that said however I find that many of the people that want to write code and manage code using speech recognition technology find it a frustrating transition. That is probably "too much information", but I hope it is helpful. good luck! -ed. Yours sincerely, Edward S. Rosenthal President and CEO Next Generation Technologies, Inc. (NGT, Inc.) 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 Lynnwood, Wa. 98036 425-744-1100 ext.15 EM: edward@ngtvoice.com URL: http://www.ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kenneth Elkind Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:55 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Dragon Dictate & Programming :response from product manager of nuance Sorry about the confusion that may have caused about Dragon NaturallySpeaking for PC Here's the response from a product manager of nuance about Dragon dictate for the Mac. * Group: Dragon NaturallySpeaking * Discussion: Dragon Dictate & Programming Mr. Thomas, While technically it is possible to use the Dragon Dictate for Mac software to produce the characters, punctuation marks and symbols one uses to write code, without a lot of customization, it may not be that practical to do so. One would have to use Spelling Mode to spell out anything that is not in our vocabulary and add that word as a custom word. Things like "int" or "std" come to mind. Another tool for customization would be Text Macros. An example of a Text Macro is: I speak a voice command like "Standard Greeting" and Dragon Dictate inserts the text "Ladies and Gentlemen:". Creating custom Text Macros for frequently used terminology and context for a particular programming language would be another part of the necessary customization to make dictating code a truly efficient process. David Popovitch Product Manager, Dragon Nuance Communications, Inc. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: International Radio Codes for Alphabet.doc Type: application/msword Size: 31232 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Lissner.2 at osu.edu Fri Dec 9 14:08:57 2011 From: Lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, Scott) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Term Limited Accessibility Job St. Paul, MN Message-ID: https://statejobs.doer.state.mn.us/JobPosting/dab1207764588f76c45675342d 51fb32/View PEC 4 , IS Planning $ 52,952-$ 87,383 annually Date Posted: 12/09/2011 Closing Date: 12/30/2011 Working Title: Chief Info Accessibility Officer Hiring Agency: Office of Enterprise Technology Location: St. Paul Who May Apply: Open to all qualified job seekers Posting Number: 11OET000047 Employment Conditions: Limited, Full-time Work Shift: Day Shift Days of Work: Monday-Friday Travel Required: no Job Grouping: Information Technology Classified Status: Unclassified Job Description: The Chief Information Accessibility Officer (CIAO): - Convenes the Technology Advisory Board; - Is the point person and champion for accessibility implementation within state government; - Makes recommendations on legislation; - Identifies, drafts, implements policy needed to meet accessibility standards; - Identifies ways to integrate accessibility into current or new State processes; - Is an ex officio member of governance groups ensuring that accessibility is appropriately considered; - Works with the ITC program to include accessibility standards in the new consolidated environment; - Initiates and oversees an accessibility implementation program; - Works with the appropriate enterprise and agency leadership to communicate the reasons for accessibility, and provide cost effective training across state government; - Oversees accessibility content on web page; - Stays current with changes to Section 508 and WCAG and trends in accessibility; - Makes presentations on accessibility and the State's accessibility implementation program to a wide variety of audiences. - Initiates and oversees an accessibility implementation program - Using best practices for program documentation; - Identifies, measures, and reports on progress and benefits achieved by the program; - Manages the budget provided by the legislature; - Creates and implements and accessibility communication plan; - Status reporting, including annual report to the legislature. Please note this position has non-permanent funding, and is anticipated to last through June 30, 2013. The incumbent is eligible for the State's comprehensive benefits package including medical and dental coverage, paid time off, and other supplemental benefits. Minimum Qualifications: This position requires all of the following: KNOWLEDGE OF - Section 508 and WCAG 2.0 Accessibility standards; - Change management principles and methodologies; - Public sector procurement processes; - Familiar with all aspects of IT including hardware, software, web and application methodologies, and service delivery processes. SKILL/ABILITY - Excellent verbal and written communication; - Demonstrated leadership skills; - Ability to relate to a wide spectrum of stakeholders; - Ability to interpret and apply technology accessibility standards to specific technical and business requirements. EXPERIENCE - Program and/or project management experience; - Business analysis OR development experience in an application/web development environment. EDUCATION - Bachelor's degree. Preferred Qualifications: - Policy and legislative experience. Selection Process: The selection process is a resume-based, skill-matching process. Resumes of all applicants to this posting will be evaluated against the Minimum Qualifications stated above. If your skills match the required skills for this position, the department may contact you. How to Apply: The Office of Enterprise Technology utilizes a resume-based screening process. You will be contacted by agency staff if your background best matches the selection criteria on this job posting. To apply for this position, click the APPLY box found at the bottom of this job announcement. For additional information about the State's selection process, including additional application options/instructions, go to >. Contact for More Information: Jordan Stander, 651.201.2615, Jordan.stander@state.mn.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petri.1 at osu.edu Mon Dec 12 12:36:35 2011 From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Ken Petri) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Nook Study Accessibility Interest Group starting, please join us Message-ID: The Ohio State University Digital Union and I did an accessibility evaluation of the Barnes and Noble Nook Study about 6 weeks ago and we shared it with B&N. After some conversation with Barnes and Noble, we are starting a Nook Study Accessibility Interest Group (AIG), which will be housed at the ATHEN Collaboration site. Beginning in January, we will be meeting monthly via teleconference with Neil Caron, the Nook Study Product Manager, and others from the Nook Study team, as appropriate. As a starting point, Neil is summarizing our Digital Union report into a list of findings with comments, and we will take this up on the first call. The short range goal will be to prioritize the list and work out jointly what we'd like to see change in the platform. In the long term, we will evaluate new release and offer feedback on improvents and suggest enhancements, with the goal being a powerful textbook e-reading platform that is usable by all. I know a number of you on this list have Barnes and Noble as your campus book store. If you are interested in participating in this group, please let me know, and feel free to pass on this invitation to colleagues at other universities. To participate, you'll need to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement and join the AIG: http://collaborate.athenpro.org/group/nookstudy/ ken -- Ken Petri Program Director, OSU Web Accessibility Center 102D Pomerene Hall, 1760 Neil Avenue, Columbus, Ohio 43210 Office: 614.292.1760 | Mobile: 614.218.1499 | Fax: 614.292.4190 http://wac.osu.edu | petri.1@osu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU Mon Dec 19 06:28:24 2011 From: Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU (Susan Kelmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] In need of book... Message-ID: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807240EB336AC@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Have checked all the usual sources, and this one is from Cambridge. Anyone have it in electronic format? Understanding Probability Auth: Tums 9780521701723 Copyright 2007 Thanks in advance! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Shannon.Lavey at colostate.edu Wed Dec 21 11:40:53 2011 From: Shannon.Lavey at colostate.edu (Lavey,Shannon) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Bluetooth mic for phone and Dragon Message-ID: <8ECA43D20640F4449329B3CAE767661A557F10@ex13.colostate.edu> Hello, Do you have recommendations for a Bluetooth mic for use with a cell phone and Dragon Naturally Speaking? I am working with a student with a C5 spinal cord injury with no upper body function who is interested in getting a mic. He currently uses a headset mic that is not wireless and feels constrained by the cord. A desktop mic is not an option at this time due to the level of noise where he uses Dragon. Thank you for your help and happy holidays! Sincerely, Shannon K. Lavey, MS, OTR Service Coordinator, Assistive Technology Resource Center 307 Occupational Therapy Building Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 970-491-6258 shannon.lavey@colostate.edu www.atrc.colostate.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edward at ngtvoice.com Wed Dec 21 12:26:18 2011 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Bluetooth mic for phone and Dragon In-Reply-To: <8ECA43D20640F4449329B3CAE767661A557F10@ex13.colostate.edu> References: <8ECA43D20640F4449329B3CAE767661A557F10@ex13.colostate.edu> Message-ID: <004c01ccc01e$cc859480$6590bd80$@ngtvoice.com> Lately we have been using the Plantronics SAVI Office product line. They have several different models, all of which are on a wireless protocol (I believe it is 2.4 GHz, at is definitely not Bluetooth), and the signal is encrypted so that one does not have to worry about somebody "intercepting" confidential information. Broadcast range is somewhere between 100 and 300 feet. You set it up in the Dragon NaturallySpeaking software as a USB microphone. They are currently producing the Plantronics WO 300, but I have been using the WO 200 and WO 100 with good results. They make a companion model called the 101, 201, etc.. however this is specifically designed for VOiP telephony like Microsoft Lync. You can purchase this product line from any number of Internet outlets, or a number of major retailers. It does require the user to depress the button to switch the signal from computer to telephone and vice versa. It offers 3 different wearing models including over the ear, and headband. We have over a dozen clients that would use this equipment daily, all with good results. If you decide to test/procure a tip that I would share is to have the user "speak extra loudly" when a complete the Dragon NaturallySpeaking audio setup Wizard as this will make it less prone to interference from ambient noise. Hope that is helpful, best wishes for a pleasant holiday season. -ed. Yours sincerely, Edward S. Rosenthal President and CEO Next Generation Technologies, Inc. (NGT, Inc.) 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 Lynnwood, Wa. 98036 425-744-1100 ext.15 EM: edward@ngtvoice.com URL: http://www.ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Lavey,Shannon Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:41 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Bluetooth mic for phone and Dragon Hello, Do you have recommendations for a Bluetooth mic for use with a cell phone and Dragon Naturally Speaking? I am working with a student with a C5 spinal cord injury with no upper body function who is interested in getting a mic. He currently uses a headset mic that is not wireless and feels constrained by the cord. A desktop mic is not an option at this time due to the level of noise where he uses Dragon. Thank you for your help and happy holidays! Sincerely, Shannon K. 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