[Athen] ALEKS Math System and JAWS

John Elmer JElmer at vcccd.edu
Wed Sep 14 14:39:50 PDT 2011


Totally unusable with JAWS.

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From: athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Gibson
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:34 PM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: [Athen] ALEKS Math System and JAWS

Afternoon Everyone,

I think I know the answer but thought I would ask anyway. Does anyone have
experience with ALEKS and JAWS and is it accessible? I have a student who is
blind that needs to use the system for assessment prior to enrolling in a
math course in the spring. I myself have never even used the program.

Thanks in advance.


Regards,

Mike Gibson
AT Coordinator
Boise State University
O: (208) 426-1583
F: (208) 426-3785
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From: athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu
[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert
Beach
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:31 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Silverlight

Hmmm, I haven't been able to check that one. But, if you're having issues
with it, I'm sure I would too. Kind of a scary thought since at some point,
I may have to use the Web UI component.


Robert Lee Beach
Assistive Technology Specialist
Kansas City Kansas Community College
7250 State Avenue
Kansas City, KS 66112
913-288-7671
rbeach at kckcc.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu
[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bundy,
Keith
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:52 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Silverlight

I, too, find WebAdvisor quite accessible. I am not sure whether it is a
Datatel product, either.

Unfortunately, the part of the interface I need, and have trouble accessing,
is UI.


Keith Bundy, MS
Dakota State University
Phone: 605-256-5121
Email: keith.bundy at dsu.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu
[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert
Beach
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:39 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Silverlight

Interesting. We have moved to Datatel here, and I haven't really found any
accessibility issues with it yet. However, I'm using a very small portion
of the system as of now. I can login, check my leave time, check my class
roster, enter grades, and a few other tasks I've tried. I do not have
access to the more administrative parts of Datatel such as enrolling a
student or managing their profiles.

Even though I haven't really found accessibility issues, I have seen several
simple things they could do to make the interface easier to use. But,
that's a different story. <grin>


>From the student perspective, they have been able to enroll in classes on

their own, print their schedules and bills, and check their grades. I will
also say that the class portion is called Web Advisor, which I'm not totally
sure is Datatel's product. It could be a different product that Datatel has
interfaced with. The piece used for the student profiles and is used for
faculty and staff to administer student records is called Web UI. I don't
have access to this part.



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From: athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu
[athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bundy, Keith
[Keith.Bundy at dsu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:09 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Silverlight

We also have the same issue, as I am a totally blind employee attempting to
use Datatel. Our Computing Services folks have been in active dialog with
Datatel.

The last suggestion we got was to try Firefox 5, but we haven't done this
just yet as I am not sure of its general accessibility. They said they are
working on the problem and, though not solved completely by Firefox 5 yet, I
should at least be able to log in.


Keith Bundy, MS
Dakota State University
Phone: 605-256-5121
Email: keith.bundy at dsu.edu<mailto:keith.bundy at dsu.edu>

From: athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu
[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron
Stewart
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:24 PM
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Silverlight

Unfortunately at this point I don't think there is anything you can do to
provide screen based access to this system. I think you have a compelling
case to continue the older system until a resolution is put in place, unless
your institution is willing to go through the complaint process. Datatel
systems have a long history of accessibility issues, maybe someone needs to
have a conversation with a senior representative of the company.

Ron Stewart

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[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu]<mailto:[mailto:athen-l
ist-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu]> On Behalf Of Hoffman, Kathy
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:31 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: [Athen] RE: Silverlight

Good Morning. We have a problem and I am hoping someone out there can help.
We have a staff member with limited vision who uses JAWS. We are using MS 7
and Datatel 4.3 and they don't play nice together. On their own, each can be
made accessible, but the new version of Datatel is web based and requires
Silverlight which will not work with JAWS at all. Our techs have contacted
both software companies and are told, "We're aware of the problem." That
doesn't help me give this individual the same level of access to Datatel
that she has had. We have been able to keep the old Datatel Client desktop
running for her but have been told that will be discontinued as of January
1, 2012. Short of live readers available at all times I don't see a
solution. Any suggestions?

Kathy S. Hoffman
Coordinator of Special Services
Erie Community College
4041 Southwestern Blvd.
Orchard Park, NY 14127
716/851-1832
Hoffman at ecc.edu<mailto:Hoffman at ecc.edu>



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