From john.gardner at orst.edu Wed Aug 1 11:53:21 2012 From: john.gardner at orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Invitation to participate in audio/tactile graphics usability test project Message-ID: <00f401cd7016$ec78e5f0$c56ab1d0$@gardner@orst.edu> Hello! ViewPlus Technologies, Inc. is seeking blind volunteers to participate in a study of audio-tactile graphics usability. During the study, volunteer testers will receive computer graphic files by email and embossed and printed tactile graphics by regular mail. Testers who have ViewPlus embossers can optionally emboss their own tactiles. Testers will receive the ViewPlus IVEO Viewer software and will be loaned a ViewPlus IVEO Touchpad to use during the testing period. We will send testers three or four general interest graphics a week to read using the IVEO system, none of which should require more than two or three minutes of their time. Testers will also be encouraged to send in their own ideas for graphics to be made accessible to read with the IVEO system. Each week testers will be asked to send in an email evaluation of the usability of each graphic. Usability questions will be brief, with a few specific questions on occasion about a particular aspect used in the graphic, and will include a request for the tester to suggest better techniques that would improve the usability of the graphic. All testers will have access to the ViewPlus support line if they need help installing the software or using it. The IVEO Viewer software is presently available only for Windows, so testers must have a Windows computer and know how to use it at a basic level. IVEO does not rely on screen readers, so no specific screen reader is needed. Any adult Windows computer user who is blind is eligible to be a tester. US residents who meet these qualifications will be accepted as a tester on a first come first served basis. Up to twenty testers are desired for this study. If fewer than twenty US residents have volunteered by end of summer 2012, foreign volunteers will be accepted, provided they have access to a ViewPlus embosser and can make their own tactiles. This test project is scheduled to run through March 31, 2013. It is partly funded by ViewPlus and partly through a sub-contract from the DIAGRAM project. DIAGRAM is funded by a grant from the US Department of Education. All findings will be published in reports and authoring guidelines for creating and converting graphical information into audio-tactile accessible form. ViewPlus (and other companies or agencies) can freely utilize the information to improve authoring, editing and delivery of software and content for audio-tactile accessible graphical information. If you are interested in being a volunteer tester for this study, please email our project coordinator Rosemarie Hyde at Rosemarie.Hyde@viewplus.com. Sincerely, John Gardner - Principal Investigator and President ViewPlus Technologies, Inc. 1965 SW. Airport Rd. Corvallis, OR 97333 541-754-4002 John.Gardner@viewplus.com From CUTLER_ELLEN at smc.edu Thu Aug 2 10:27:43 2012 From: CUTLER_ELLEN at smc.edu (CUTLER_ELLEN) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Indenting Notification in Excel Message-ID: Hello, A couple of weeks ago a few of you confirmed my thought that images of spreadsheets in an Accounting textbook should be created in Excel to make the information and formatting meaningful to a JAWS user. All was going well until indenting. As you know, indenting is used within the same column to indicate that one item is a subset of another. I activated the Editing/Indentation Indicate option (available through Quick Settings) but still did not hear indentation feedback. I then spoke with Technical Support at Freedom Scientific and was told that even though I activate the Quick Settings within Excel, it does not mean those settings are applicable to Excel. Furthermore, I was told that when you choose Excel in Settings Center/Speech and Sound Schemes, the Sound Schemes available are not necessarily applicable to Excel, that the only way to know if a scheme will work in Excel is by trial and error. Lastly, I was told that the only way I may get JAWS to recognize indentation in Excel as it reads is to create a custom script which would be extremely difficult. Yes, Insert F does indicate whether there is an indent, but it is not practical to use Insert F on every cell as you listen. Do you all have any ideas about how to design a spreadsheet for a JAWS user to communicate what a sighted user sees as indented text? Thanks, Ellen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Fri Aug 3 02:08:41 2012 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Indenting Notification in Excel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F4BCCFEE529324F96A13202E9C2031822867D7875@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> I don't create the sample worksheets from the chapters in Excel, I create them as tables within the Word document. That way all of the information is together, not in two different places. I create the worksheets the student will need to complete in Excel, buth they could be done in Word as well. As far as the indent, put three periods or hyphens in front of the text so the student will know the item is indented. I use periods myself. ________________________________________ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of CUTLER_ELLEN [CUTLER_ELLEN@smc.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:27 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: [Athen] Indenting Notification in Excel Hello, A couple of weeks ago a few of you confirmed my thought that images of spreadsheets in an Accounting textbook should be created in Excel to make the information and formatting meaningful to a JAWS user. All was going well until indenting. As you know, indenting is used within the same column to indicate that one item is a subset of another. I activated the Editing/Indentation Indicate option (available through Quick Settings) but still did not hear indentation feedback. I then spoke with Technical Support at Freedom Scientific and was told that even though I activate the Quick Settings within Excel, it does not mean those settings are applicable to Excel. Furthermore, I was told that when you choose Excel in Settings Center/Speech and Sound Schemes, the Sound Schemes available are not necessarily applicable to Excel, that the only way to know if a scheme will work in Excel is by trial and error. Lastly, I was told that the only way I may get JAWS to recognize indentation in Excel as it reads is to create a custom script which would be extremely difficult. Yes, Insert F does indicate whether there is an indent, but it is not practical to use Insert F on every cell as you listen. Do you all have any ideas about how to design a spreadsheet for a JAWS user to communicate what a sighted user sees as indented text? Thanks, Ellen From CUTLER_ELLEN at smc.edu Fri Aug 3 10:16:48 2012 From: CUTLER_ELLEN at smc.edu (CUTLER_ELLEN) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Indenting Notification in Excel In-Reply-To: <5F4BCCFEE529324F96A13202E9C2031822867D7875@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> References: <5F4BCCFEE529324F96A13202E9C2031822867D7875@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: Thanks so much Robert and to the rest of you who have helped us figure out what to do. -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:09 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] RE: Indenting Notification in Excel I don't create the sample worksheets from the chapters in Excel, I create them as tables within the Word document. That way all of the information is together, not in two different places. I create the worksheets the student will need to complete in Excel, buth they could be done in Word as well. As far as the indent, put three periods or hyphens in front of the text so the student will know the item is indented. I use periods myself. ________________________________________ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of CUTLER_ELLEN [CUTLER_ELLEN@smc.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:27 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: [Athen] Indenting Notification in Excel Hello, A couple of weeks ago a few of you confirmed my thought that images of spreadsheets in an Accounting textbook should be created in Excel to make the information and formatting meaningful to a JAWS user. All was going well until indenting. As you know, indenting is used within the same column to indicate that one item is a subset of another. I activated the Editing/Indentation Indicate option (available through Quick Settings) but still did not hear indentation feedback. I then spoke with Technical Support at Freedom Scientific and was told that even though I activate the Quick Settings within Excel, it does not mean those settings are applicable to Excel. Furthermore, I was told that when you choose Excel in Settings Center/Speech and Sound Schemes, the Sound Schemes available are not necessarily applicable to Excel, that the only way to know if a scheme will work in Excel is by trial and error. Lastly, I was told that the only way I may get JAWS to recognize indentation in Excel as it reads is to create a custom script which would be extremely difficult. Yes, Insert F does indicate whether there is an indent, but it is not practical to use Insert F on every cell as you listen. Do you all have any ideas about how to design a spreadsheet for a JAWS user to communicate what a sighted user sees as indented text? Thanks, Ellen _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU Fri Aug 3 11:32:41 2012 From: Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU (Susan Kelmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Need contact for AMX tech support Message-ID: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E2882A10@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> I need a contact email for someone in tech support/membership function at AMX. Please contact me off-list, please. Thanks. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks. > > /Susan Kelmer/ > > /Alternate Format Coordinator/ > > /Disability Services/ > > /University of Colorado/ > > /303-735-4836/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wink.harner at mesacc.edu Fri Aug 3 12:22:36 2012 From: wink.harner at mesacc.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Need contact for AMX tech support In-Reply-To: <501C2406.5050107@htctu.net> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E2882A10@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <501C2406.5050107@htctu.net> Message-ID: Hahaha. Good one Jayme. Wink On Aug 3, 2012 12:20 PM, "Jayme Johnson" wrote: > Got it- don't bother yourselves everyone. But since it's the thought > that counts, thanks in advance, just the same... ;-) > > Jayme Johnson > The guy you need to track down for AMX DB issues... > > > On 8/3/12 11:32 AM, Susan Kelmer wrote: > > I need a contact email for someone in tech support/membership function > at AMX. Please contact me off-list, please. Thanks.**** > > ** ** > > *Susan Kelmer* > > *Alternate Format Coordinator* > > *Disability Services* > > *University of Colorado* > > *303-735-4836* > > ** ** > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing listathen-list@mailman1.u.washington.eduhttp://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Fri Aug 3 16:28:25 2012 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Free Webinar: The DIAGRAM Center: Making Digital Images Accessible Wed Aug. 8 Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20120803162524.04e0a798@pop.gmail.com> Free Webinar: The DIAGRAM Center: Making Digital Images Accessible This Webinar next Wednesday is timely and important. I heard these presenters at CSUN last March, and for me it was the best Presentation I attended. Take my word. It is timely and valuable and entertaining. The DIAGRAM Center: Making Digital Images Accessible Presenters: Anh Bui and Fred Slone Wednesday, August 8 at 11 AM Pacific, Noon Mountain, 1 PM Central and 2 PM Eastern With data visualization and image-heavy content becoming large parts of today's information landscape, the DIAGRAM Center brings together the leading minds in image accessibility to realize its mission of making it easier, faster, and more cost effective to create and use accessible images so that students with print disabilities have timely access to the information they need. This session will cover the free tools and standards that the DIAGRAM Center, managed by Benetech and funded by OSEP, is developing. Poet, DIAGRAM's free web-based tool for adding image descriptions to books, will be demonstrated. We'll also see how Benetech's accessible digital library Bookshare is using DIAGRAM's work to make image descriptions available in the collection. Register at the following link: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm/#august . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It's never too late to become what you might have been. George Eliot Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com Making Online Teaching Accessible: Inclusive Course Design for Students with Disabilities by Norman Coombs published by Jossey-Bass Oct 10,2010 http://www.josseybass.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470499044.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bryantm at seminolestate.edu Mon Aug 6 13:56:47 2012 From: bryantm at seminolestate.edu (Marshall Bryant) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] online text to speech Message-ID: <128B6AFEFDD7764698DF3F90D0230C314ED3FE02@exch-m2.prod.ssc.local> Is anyone familiar with the online speech to text service Readspeaker? I happened to run across the DSS website at Ohio State and they are using this to read the content of their web site. I want to make our school's website accessible with the speaking option, but this is the only service I have seen in use so far (and it sounds expensive). I also am curious if there is anything else out there that can do this for a low cost or even free. Thanks, Marshall Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bryantm at seminolestate.edu Mon Aug 6 14:03:42 2012 From: bryantm at seminolestate.edu (Marshall Bryant) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] online text to speech Message-ID: <128B6AFEFDD7764698DF3F90D0230C314ED3FE21@exch-m2.prod.ssc.local> Is anyone familiar with the online speech to text service Readspeaker? I happened to run across the DSS website at Ohio State and they are using this to read the content of their web site. I want to make our school's website accessible with the speaking option, but this is the only service I have seen in use so far (and it sounds expensive). I also am curious if there is anything else out there that can do this for a low cost or even free. Thanks, Marshall Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. 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Paire) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: online text to speech In-Reply-To: <128B6AFEFDD7764698DF3F90D0230C314ED3FE02@exch-m2.prod.ssc.local> References: <128B6AFEFDD7764698DF3F90D0230C314ED3FE02@exch-m2.prod.ssc.local> Message-ID: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C71C448F96@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> There's also BrowseAloud, but my understanding is these types of services should be used as a last resort as most users that need this service already have a preferred text-to-speech software installed on their workstations for use (rather than having one forced on them by the institution.) -Paul From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Marshall Bryant Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:57 PM To: athen-list-u.washington.edu; webaim-forum-list.webaim.org Cc: itd-jnl-listserv.icors.org; DSSHE-L-LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: [Athen] online text to speech Is anyone familiar with the online speech to text service Readspeaker? I happened to run across the DSS website at Ohio State and they are using this to read the content of their web site. I want to make our school's website accessible with the speaking option, but this is the only service I have seen in use so far (and it sounds expensive). I also am curious if there is anything else out there that can do this for a low cost or even free. Thanks, Marshall Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pratikp1 at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 14:15:34 2012 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] online text to speech In-Reply-To: <128B6AFEFDD7764698DF3F90D0230C314ED3FE02@exch-m2.prod.ssc.local> References: <128B6AFEFDD7764698DF3F90D0230C314ED3FE02@exch-m2.prod.ssc.local> Message-ID: <031a01cd7418$a05d5240$e117f6c0$@gmail.com> Hello Marshall, Disclaimer, I am the owner of a consulting firm which works with many colleges and universities about their web strategies, accessibility design, and usability. Generally, we do not recommend that you employ services like this for making web sites accessible. It is unlikely to meet the needs of most of your users who rely on assistive technology. Users who do rely on assistive technology will often bring their own assistive technology to experience your web site. Purchasing this option does not solve a fundamental problem for your site. That is-your web site needs to be accessible first in order to make this service work well. If it is not, then either this service or the the assistive technology that your visitors will be using will not be able to access your site effectively. Services like these are often marketed as magical solutions that will solve all your problems. But conducting development in the right way will often solve more problems than using services such as this one. If your web developers would like training, testing services, or other assistance on making your web site more friendly to visitors with disabilities, please do not hesitate to contact us. Warm regards, Pratik Pratik Patel CEO, EZFire From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Marshall Bryant Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:57 PM To: athen-list-u.washington.edu; webaim-forum-list.webaim.org Cc: itd-jnl-listserv.icors.org; DSSHE-L-LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: [Athen] online text to speech Is anyone familiar with the online speech to text service Readspeaker? I happened to run across the DSS website at Ohio State and they are using this to read the content of their web site. I want to make our school's website accessible with the speaking option, but this is the only service I have seen in use so far (and it sounds expensive). I also am curious if there is anything else out there that can do this for a low cost or even free. Thanks, Marshall Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petri.1 at osu.edu Mon Aug 6 14:36:59 2012 From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Ken Petri) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] online text to speech In-Reply-To: <128B6AFEFDD7764698DF3F90D0230C314ED3FE02@exch-m2.prod.ssc.local> References: <128B6AFEFDD7764698DF3F90D0230C314ED3FE02@exch-m2.prod.ssc.local> Message-ID: Hi Marshall, We recently bought two more years service for ReadSpeaker. This is our third year with ReadSpeaker available. We keep a page about RS here: http://go.osu.edu/readspeaker Our RS license allows developers across the university to use the service to enable their websites for TTS with highlighting. My office pays for the service campus-wide. I don't think it is terribly expensive for what it offers, but then again, it is certainly not free. Having RS makes absolutely no guarantee that anything on your websites is accessible. It's going to do a poor job reading sites/pages with poor accessibility and it will do a good job reading pages with good accessibility. So we think of it as an enhancement for all users and as tool to bring greater awareness of the benefits both of having TTS/highlighting and of making one's websites accessible. For me, it is as much about building a culture of access as it is about providing access. As others have pointed out, RS isn't a substitute for coding web pages with accessibility in mind and it's not going to replace any assistive technologies. For a screen reader user, ReadSpeaker is essentially worthless. And many students with reading disabilities are going to be using specialized software. However, for students with minor or non-diagnosed print disabilities and for visitors who may have low vision or who need or desire assistance reading for any reason, ReadSpeaker does a good job. We also thought about BrowseAloud. But it and products like gh ClickHear market for a narrower audience of users. Of students registered with our DS office, a very large percentage can benefit from assistance in reading and my guess is that there are many students and visitors who also benefit. ReadSpeaker is enabled on around 26 sites at OSU. We see between 3000 and 6000 unique usages of RS per month. My bet is many of these are from users who are not registered with our DS office. Feel free to contact me off list if you have any questions or want our RS rep's contact info. ken -- Ken Petri Program Director, OSU Web Accessibility Center 102D Pomerene Hall, 1760 Neil Avenue, Columbus, Ohio 43210 Office: 614.292.1760 | Mobile: 614.218.1499 | Fax: 614.292.4190 http://wac.osu.edu | petri.1@osu.edu On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Marshall Bryant wrote: > Is anyone familiar with the online speech to text service Readspeaker? > I happened to run across the DSS website at Ohio State and they are using > this to read the content of their web site. I want to make our school?s > website accessible with the speaking option, but this is the only service I > have seen in use so far (and it sounds expensive). I also am curious if > there is anything else out there that can do this for a low cost or even > free.**** > > ** ** > > Thanks,**** > > Marshall**** > > Please Note: > > Due to Florida's very broad public records law, > most written communications to or from College > employees regarding College business are public > records, available to the public and media upon > request. Therefore, this e-mail communication may > be subject to public disclosure. > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ea at emptech.info Tue Aug 7 00:50:11 2012 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [WebAIM] [Athen] online text to speech In-Reply-To: References: <128B6AFEFDD7764698DF3F90D0230C314ED3FE02@exch-m2.prod.ssc.local> <031a01cd7418$a05d5240$e117f6c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00a601cd7471$45dc62d0$d1952870$@emptech.info> I don't normally advertise a browser based toolbar and this one is definitely not a replacement for screen reading or full magnification needed to access all technologies. But if you want to offer people a free open source toolbar with TTS that you can build to suit your needs, add to your website or offer as a bookmark there is ATbar (www.atbar.org) We can help you add your own logo and more languages if required - see the marketplace and API menu links. This is a 'work in progress' project - so any ideas for improvements and new plugins would be welcomed. Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 Mobile +44 (0)7976 289103 http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: webaim-forum-bounces@list.webaim.org [mailto:webaim-forum-bounces@list.webaim.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Hemphill Sent: 06 August 2012 22:46 To: WebAIM Discussion List Cc: itd-jnl-listserv.icors.org; Access Technology Higher Education Network; DSSHE-L-LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: [WebAIM] [Athen] online text to speech We use ReadSpeaker on our platform but we don't consider it to be a 'screen reader' because it cannot handle interactive sites. The only people that benefit from the ReadSpeaker tech are usually sighted users. It certainly doesn't qualify as a comprehensive solution. Ryan On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Pratik Patel wrote: > Hello Marshall, > > Disclaimer, I am the owner of a consulting firm which works with many > colleges and universities about their web strategies, accessibility > design, and usability. > > Generally, we do not recommend that you employ services like this for > making web sites accessible. It is unlikely to meet the needs of most > of your users who rely on assistive technology. Users who do rely on > assistive technology will often bring their own assistive technology > to experience your web site. > Purchasing this option does not solve a fundamental problem for your site. > That is-your web site needs to be accessible first in order to make > this service work well. If it is not, then either this service or the > the assistive technology that your visitors will be using will not be > able to access your site effectively. Services like these are often > marketed as magical solutions that will solve all your problems. But > conducting development in the right way will often solve more problems > than using services such as this one. > > If your web developers would like training, testing services, or other > assistance on making your web site more friendly to visitors with > disabilities, please do not hesitate to contact us. > > Warm regards, > > Pratik > > > Pratik Patel > CEO, EZFire > > > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of > Marshall Bryant > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:57 PM > To: athen-list-u.washington.edu; webaim-forum-list.webaim.org > Cc: itd-jnl-listserv.icors.org; DSSHE-L-LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: [Athen] online text to speech > > Is anyone familiar with the online speech to text service Readspeaker? > I happened to run across the DSS website at Ohio State and they are > using this to read the content of their web site. I want to make our > school's website accessible with the speaking option, but this is the > only service I have seen in use so far (and it sounds expensive). I > also am curious if there is anything else out there that can do this > for a low cost or even free. > > Thanks, > Marshall > Please Note: > Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written > communications to or from College employees regarding College business > are public records, available to the public and media upon request. > Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public > disclosure. > _______________________________________________ > To manage your subscription, visit http://list.webaim.org/ Address > list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org > -- Shipping is a Feature...Perhaps the Most Important Feature. _______________________________________________ To manage your subscription, visit http://list.webaim.org/ Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org From osullivana at missouri.edu Tue Aug 7 12:06:15 2012 From: osullivana at missouri.edu (OSullivan, Abigail R.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Tactile graphics Message-ID: <85B8BEEA51977F4A9B00DE1B744F93E3125C8BE6@UM-MBX-N02.um.umsystem.edu> Hello, Is there a University or college who owns a phoenix braille embosser and you are creating tactiles? IF you do we have a few questions. Thanks. Abbie O'Sullivan Manager of Computing Sites and Adaptive Technology Customer Service & Support University of Missouri Division of IT N-18 Memorial Union Columbia, MO 65211 office (573)882-6525 cell (573) 289-1245 osullivana@missouri.edu [Description: cid:image001.png@01C9E2AD.109464F0] Email is not a secure form of communication; confidentiality cannot be guaranteed. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender of the error and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Does anyone have recommendations from personal experience of where to get neckloops and mics that are a little better put together for the PFM's. thanks, Jeff Dell Cleveland State From ndogbo at gmail.com Wed Aug 8 20:46:00 2012 From: ndogbo at gmail.com (N Dogbo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Signing off out of LinkedIn Message-ID: Hi, Can anyone on here share with me how he or she logs out of LinkedIn using a screen reader, (e.g., JAWS)? I can't find the logoff feature anywhere using JAWS, and I've been looking for it for a long time now. There may be some kind of mouseover action to be performed in order for one to see the logout link/button, I read somewhere... Thanks in advance. Nicaise ----- Think not with your EYES and you shall have a perfect VISION! --- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of N Dogbo Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:46 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Signing off out of LinkedIn Hi, Can anyone on here share with me how he or she logs out of LinkedIn using a screen reader, (e.g., JAWS)? I can't find the logoff feature anywhere using JAWS, and I've been looking for it for a long time now. There may be some kind of mouseover action to be performed in order for one to see the logout link/button, I read somewhere... Thanks in advance. Nicaise ----- Think not with your EYES and you shall have a perfect VISION! --- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Nicaise ----- Think not with your EYES and you shall have a perfect VISION! --- _____ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Travis Roth Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 7:59 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] Signing off out of LinkedIn Yes you are correct, the "Sign Out" link is hidden on a menu that displays with mouseOver. Look for the link that is your name/account username. It is usually at the top of the page. When focused on this link with JAWS, press the activate mouseOver keystroke ctrl+JAWSKey+Enter. When this works correctly a list of links will appear below your name, and you can arrow or tab to them at this point, and Sign Out is the last link in the newly displayed list. From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of N Dogbo Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:46 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Signing off out of LinkedIn Hi, Can anyone on here share with me how he or she logs out of LinkedIn using a screen reader, (e.g., JAWS)? I can't find the logoff feature anywhere using JAWS, and I've been looking for it for a long time now. There may be some kind of mouseover action to be performed in order for one to see the logout link/button, I read somewhere... Thanks in advance. Nicaise ----- Think not with your EYES and you shall have a perfect VISION! --- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blrichwine at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 08:46:53 2012 From: blrichwine at gmail.com (Brian Richwine) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Anyone have experience with the Index Braille Box V4 Embosser? Message-ID: Hello, Does anyone have experience with the Braille Box V4 Embosser by Index Braille, or an earlier model of the Braille Box embosser? We have quite a bit of experience using the Juliet Pro 60 braille embosser and using tractor feed paper. We need to setup another embosser at a different location, and are faced with having to purchase/build a special sound enclosure to keep the noise level civil to those around it. We are curious about the Braille Box V4 embosser because it claims to be quiet which may offset the unit's higher cost by keeping our sound enclosure needs lower. Also the single sheet paper feeder is interesting. However, we've been told Index Braille embossers are known for having frequent paper jams. I guess I'm wondering if anyone really knows whether paper jams are really/still a problem with Index Braille embossers and particularly with this unit. Also, does anyone know what it is like to live around a Braille Box embosser (in terms of noise level)? Thanks for any feedback! Brian Richwine *Brian Richwine* UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University ? Bloomington / Indianapolis http://iuadapts.indiana.edu (812) 856-2757 [Direct Line] (812) 856-4112 [Office Number] (812) 650-2897 [Cell] brichwin@indiana.edu *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE* This email message, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain confidential and privileged information. * * If you are not the intended recipient you may NOT use, disclose, copy, or disseminate this information. Please contact the sender by reply email immediately and destroy all copies of the original message including all attachments. Even if you are an intended recipient of this email, the author requests that you not forward it to any other person without prior consent. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From schwarte at purdue.edu Wed Aug 15 07:44:43 2012 From: schwarte at purdue.edu (Schwarte, David M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Anyone have experience with the Index Braille Box V4 Embosser? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <681057C0B7989643B7E8D9BF6F8C6AE8A60AEC58C6@VPEXCH07.purdue.lcl> We have not had Experience with the Braille Box; however, we have had two different Everest embossers. The Everest is also a sheet fee embosser and an Index product. The Everest has definitely been quieter than the VersaPoint before it. I would not say that it was quiet. If you can get away with out using the sound enclosure it may reduce the number of paper jams. Most of the embossers I have dealt with, including the Everest have issues with paper handling that are made worse by the enclosure. Having said that, our current Everest, a version 3, has had very few problems with paper jams. If the paper is put in carefully and riffled a little before it is put in, so it does not stick together, we have had very few issues. I like the single sheet feeder option since it takes less skill to put in more paper than tractor feed embossers. I just wish there was something that worked like a laser printer feeder. David Schwarte From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Richwine Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 11:47 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Anyone have experience with the Index Braille Box V4 Embosser? Hello, Does anyone have experience with the Braille Box V4 Embosser by Index Braille, or an earlier model of the Braille Box embosser? We have quite a bit of experience using the Juliet Pro 60 braille embosser and using tractor feed paper. We need to setup another embosser at a different location, and are faced with having to purchase/build a special sound enclosure to keep the noise level civil to those around it. We are curious about the Braille Box V4 embosser because it claims to be quiet which may offset the unit's higher cost by keeping our sound enclosure needs lower. Also the single sheet paper feeder is interesting. However, we've been told Index Braille embossers are known for having frequent paper jams. I guess I'm wondering if anyone really knows whether paper jams are really/still a problem with Index Braille embossers and particularly with this unit. Also, does anyone know what it is like to live around a Braille Box embosser (in terms of noise level)? Thanks for any feedback! Brian Richwine Brian Richwine UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University - Bloomington / Indianapolis http://iuadapts.indiana.edu (812) 856-2757 [Direct Line] (812) 856-4112 [Office Number] (812) 650-2897 [Cell] brichwin@indiana.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email message, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you may NOT use, disclose, copy, or disseminate this information. Please contact the sender by reply email immediately and destroy all copies of the original message including all attachments. Even if you are an intended recipient of this email, the author requests that you not forward it to any other person without prior consent. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The Everest has definitely been quieter than the > VersaPoint before it. I would not say that it was quiet. If you can get > away with out using the sound enclosure it may reduce the number of paper > jams. Most of the embossers I have dealt with, including the Everest have > issues with paper handling that are made worse by the enclosure. Having > said that, our current Everest, a version 3, has had very few problems with > paper jams. If the paper is put in carefully and riffled a little before > it is put in, so it does not stick together, we have had very few issues. > I like the single sheet feeder option since it takes less skill to put in > more paper than tractor feed embossers. I just wish there was something > that worked like a laser printer feeder.**** > > ** ** > > David Schwarte **** > > ** ** > > *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: > athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Brian > Richwine > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2012 11:47 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* [Athen] Anyone have experience with the Index Braille Box V4 > Embosser?**** > > ** ** > > Hello, > > Does anyone have experience with the Braille Box V4 Embosser by Index > Braille, or an earlier model of the Braille Box embosser? > > We have quite a bit of experience using the Juliet Pro 60 braille embosser > and using tractor feed paper. We need to setup another embosser at a > different location, and are faced with having to purchase/build a special > sound enclosure to keep the noise level civil to those around it. We are > curious about the Braille Box V4 embosser because it claims to be quiet > which may offset the unit's higher cost by keeping our sound enclosure > needs lower. Also the single sheet paper feeder is interesting. However, > we've been told Index Braille embossers are known for having frequent paper > jams. > > I guess I'm wondering if anyone really knows whether paper jams are > really/still a problem with Index Braille embossers and particularly with > this unit. Also, does anyone know what it is like to live around a Braille > Box embosser (in terms of noise level)? > > Thanks for any feedback! > Brian Richwine**** > > *Brian Richwine***** > > UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers**** > > Indiana University ? Bloomington / Indianapolis**** > > http://iuadapts.indiana.edu**** > > (812) 856-2757 [Direct Line]**** > > (812) 856-4112 [Office Number]**** > > (812) 650-2897 [Cell]**** > > brichwin@indiana.edu**** > > **** > > *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE***** > > This email message, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the > intended recipients and may contain confidential and privileged information. > **** > > * ***** > > If you are not the intended recipient you may NOT use, disclose, copy, or > disseminate this information. Please contact the sender by reply email > immediately and destroy all copies of the original message including all > attachments. Even if you are an intended recipient of this email, the > author requests that you not forward it to any other person without prior > consent.**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Thu Aug 16 13:20:17 2012 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] having problem with Zoomtext in Java application Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20120816131855.02319ca8@pop.gmail.com> I got the following plea for help and expect someone on this list will have an answer. Please reply to Daniel and not to me. Norm Coombs Subject: having problem with Zoomtext in Java application I wonder if you can help me find a product or a fix for a problem that I am having. We are trying to use Zoomtext with Reader on a Java based database in network environment. We installed Java Bridge, but no luck. Zoomtext is working perfectly in the non-Java apps. I would appreciated any suggestions you may have Thank you -- Daniel Higgins, M.S. Ed. Rehabilitation Technology Specialist Poplar Hill Technology (585) 261-4047 From hascherdss at gmail.com Fri Aug 17 13:18:34 2012 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Olearia & OS Lion - Problems?? Message-ID: Has anyone had any problems with attempting to use Olearia on a Mac running Lion and having the Mac crash??? Any help is appreciated! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know it's a 13-year-old scanner. It is however still faster than many conventional scanners with a 17 inch long glass plate. If anybody had any way to create, find a driver for it? Any thoughts or suggestions? Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu Wed Aug 22 13:21:13 2012 From: Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu (Kenneth Elkind) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] HP ScanJet 5100 C scanner driver :-) Message-ID: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00409C432@ebe1.umassb.net> I should have given you more details, the new computer is three years old running on Windows 732 bit the scanner is currently using a LPT one port however it could purchase a SCSI converter cable USB. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 6003 bytes Desc: not available URL: From paire at temple.edu Thu Aug 23 06:31:19 2012 From: paire at temple.edu (Paul E. Paire) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] HP ScanJet 5100 C scanner driver :-) In-Reply-To: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00409C432@ebe1.umassb.net> References: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00409C432@ebe1.umassb.net> Message-ID: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C71C824AEE@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> All the docs I've found point to this not being compatible with Vista/7: http://hpanswers.blogspot.com/2010/02/hp-scanjet-scanners-windows-7-drivers.html http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/compatibility/windows-7/en-us/Details.aspx?type=Hardware&p=HP%20Scanjet%205100c%20Scanner&v=HP&uid=C5197A&l=en-US&pf=3&pi=6&c=Printers%20%26%20Scanners&sc=Scanners&os=32-bit >From the Amazon review "Buyer Beware. There are no drivers available for using this scanner with Windows Vista or Win 7. If you need a boat anchor, it's fine, but that's all its good for." However, I assume you knew this since you asked if anyone had created custom drivers for it. Sorry, wasn't able to find any of those either. I've also seen people suggest trying Windows XP Compatibility mode, but people didn't have luck with that either. (But this is probably because the drivers were originally written for 95/98/NT and then patch it up to XP - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfiLtWbEFM4 ) maybe you could try it with a Virtual XP instance. Another thing you could try is using VueScan from http://www.hamrick.com/ which supposedly uses its own drivers (caveat emptor I've never used it, but just read about it on a forum post). -Paul From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kenneth Elkind Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:21 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: RE: [Athen] HP ScanJet 5100 C scanner driver :-) I should have given you more details, the new computer is three years old running on Windows 732 bit the scanner is currently using a LPT one port however it could purchase a SCSI converter cable USB. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsuttondc at gmail.com Thu Aug 23 10:06:06 2012 From: jsuttondc at gmail.com (Jennifer Sutton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Call for Papers: Text Customization for Readability Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20120823100523.0571ab80@earthlink.net> Thought some on the ATHEN email list might find this of interest, in case you've not seen elsewhere. With apologies for any duplication. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Call for Papers: Text Customization for Readability Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 09:34:38 -0500 From: Shawn Henry To: WAI Interest Group Dear WAI Interest Group: The W3C WAI Research and Development Working Group (RDWG) invites you to contribute to the online symposium on Text Customization for Readability. Submission date: 24 September 2012 Symposium date: 19 November 2012 This symposium brings together researchers, practitioners, and users with disabilities to explore the needs of people with low vision, dyslexia, and other conditions and situations that impact reading. We invite research and position papers of about 1,000 words. We encourage you to submit new research, ongoing research, and analysis of past research related to text customization for readability. Submissions will be peer-reviewed. Accepted papers will be published online in an attributable form as part of the symposium proceedings. Authors of accepted papers will be invited to participate in the symposium panel. *For more information about the symposium and submissions, please see*: - Text Customization for Readability Symposium main page: - Call for Papers: If you are interested in contributing to this Symposium, please submit your paper by: *24 September 2012* Feel free to circulate this message to other lists; please avoid cross-postings where possible. --------- RDWG Background: The Research and Development Working Group (RDWG) helps: - increase accessibility considerations in research on web technologies, including mainstream research, - suggest research questions that may contribute to web accessibility research projects, - inform development of web accessibility solutions, - decrease the number of potential barriers in future web-related technologies. RDWG Symposia bring together researchers, practitioners, and users with disabilities interested in a particular aspect of web accessibility to advance research and development in that area. The online Symposia include a panel with the authors of accepted papers, and provide an opportunity for participants to ask questions. Symposia proceedings, transcript, and a report are available publicly online afterward. For more information, see the RDWG FAQ: We welcome your ideas on this topic and your ideas for future RDWG work. Please send comments to the publicly-archived mailing list: This Symposium is developed with support of the EC-funded WAI-ACT Project (IST 287725) described at: If you have any questions, contact Shadi Abou-Zahra: shadi@w3.org Regards, Shawn Lawton Henry, WAI Outreach Simon Harper, RDWG Co-Chair Shadi Abou-Zahra, RDWG W3C Staff Contact ----- Shawn Lawton Henry W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) e-mail: shawn@w3.org phone: +1.617.395.7664 about: http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/ From ron at ahead.org Thu Aug 23 19:11:20 2012 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] HP ScanJet 5100 C scanner driver :-) In-Reply-To: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C71C824AEE@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> References: <3EA5FBF402FB0E4EAEEAE0C6D21F1DC00409C432@ebe1.umassb.net> <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C71C824AEE@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> Message-ID: <00e401cd819d$c0e42c40$42ac84c0$@ahead.org> Hardware drivers need to be OS specific, and a lot of older scanners have become boat anchors. Anyone want a Canon DR-5080C I have several that are looking for a good home. There are a variety of older scanners that do not provide driver software for the more current OS's and any workaround is going to be a recipie for disaster. Scanners like the 5100 were actually not truly TWAIN comliant in the first place and were end of lifed in 2006-2007 and that needs to be taken into account when you spend time and energy to try to develop a work-around. The on only reliable and viable solution in maintain this equipment is to keep and XP Pro box up and running. That is what we have had to do to maintain or older scanners, they work great but you have to make some trade-offs. Ron Stewart Technology Advisor AHEAD From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Paul E. Paire Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:31 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] HP ScanJet 5100 C scanner driver :-) All the docs I've found point to this not being compatible with Vista/7: http://hpanswers.blogspot.com/2010/02/hp-scanjet-scanners-windows-7-drivers. html http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/compatibility/windows-7/en-us/Details.aspx? type=Hardware &p=HP%20Scanjet%205100c%20Scanner&v=HP&uid=C5197A&l=en-US&pf=3&pi=6&c=Printe rs%20%26%20Scanners&sc=Scanners&os=32-bit >From the Amazon review "Buyer Beware. There are no drivers available for using this scanner with Windows Vista or Win 7. If you need a boat anchor, it's fine, but that's all its good for." However, I assume you knew this since you asked if anyone had created custom drivers for it. Sorry, wasn't able to find any of those either. I've also seen people suggest trying Windows XP Compatibility mode, but people didn't have luck with that either. (But this is probably because the drivers were originally written for 95/98/NT and then patch it up to XP - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfiLtWbEFM4 ) maybe you could try it with a Virtual XP instance. Another thing you could try is using VueScan from http://www.hamrick.com/ which supposedly uses its own drivers (caveat emptor I've never used it, but just read about it on a forum post). -Paul From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kenneth Elkind Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:21 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: RE: [Athen] HP ScanJet 5100 C scanner driver :-) I should have given you more details, the new computer is three years old running on Windows 732 bit the scanner is currently using a LPT one port however it could purchase a SCSI converter cable USB. 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URL: From wink.harner at mesacc.edu Fri Aug 24 12:36:54 2012 From: wink.harner at mesacc.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon 12 premium In-Reply-To: <1168869547.1056756.1345836649955.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> References: <1168869547.1056756.1345836649955.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> Message-ID: I have. Much experience. I'll get in touch with you later today. Wink Harner On Aug 24, 2012 12:33 PM, "Scott D. Mac Leod" wrote: > > I am wondering if any one has used Dragon 12 premium? How well does it > work withouthaving to train it. > > Scott MacLeod > Assistive Technology Specialist > Email: sdmacleo@svsu.edu > Phone: 989 964-4054 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Keith.Bundy at dsu.edu Fri Aug 24 13:16:33 2012 From: Keith.Bundy at dsu.edu (Keith.Bundy@dsu.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon 12 premium In-Reply-To: References: <1168869547.1056756.1345836649955.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> Message-ID: On a related note, is anyone using Dragon successfully with JAWS for Windows without using J-Tools or J-Say? Thanks for your responses. Keith Bundy, MS Dakota State University Phone: 605-256-5121 Email: keith.bundy@dsu.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 2:37 PM To: Scott Macleod; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon 12 premium I have. Much experience. I'll get in touch with you later today. Wink Harner On Aug 24, 2012 12:33 PM, "Scott D. Mac Leod" > wrote: I am wondering if any one has used Dragon 12 premium? How well does it work withouthaving to train it. Scott MacLeod Assistive Technology Specialist Email: sdmacleo@svsu.edu Phone: 989 964-4054 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Derek.Chaves at umassmed.edu Mon Aug 27 11:15:14 2012 From: Derek.Chaves at umassmed.edu (Chaves, Derek) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon Naturally Speaking For Free! Message-ID: All, I have come across an article from lifehacker stating how to get a free license for dragon. The article says the rebates are available this week only. http://lifehacker.com/5938134/dragon-naturallyspeaking-speeds-up-your-writing-is-free-this-week-only?utm_campaign=socialflow_lifehacker_facebook&utm_source=lifehacker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow Sincerely, Derek Chaves Technical Project Manager NE INDEX/Shriver Center/UMASS Medical School 200 Trapelo Road Waltham, MA 02452 781-642-0288 - Office www.disabilityinfo.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kcahill at MIT.EDU Mon Aug 27 11:35:42 2012 From: kcahill at MIT.EDU (Kathleen Cahill) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Dragon Naturally Speaking For Free! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4599527AD714FA42B45CEDFE81CA397D1E6E4D@OC11expo28.exchange.mit.edu> It's the Home version they are advertising, so just make sure it has all the features you need: http://www.nuance.com/for-individuals/by-product/dragon-for-pc/DNS12FeatureMarix.xml Kathy Kathleen Cahill Assistive Technology Specialist MIT ATIC (Assistive Tech. Info. Center) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Chaves, Derek Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 2:15 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: [Athen] Dragon Naturally Speaking For Free! All, I have come across an article from lifehacker stating how to get a free license for dragon. The article says the rebates are available this week only. http://lifehacker.com/5938134/dragon-naturallyspeaking-speeds-up-your-writing-is-free-this-week-only?utm_campaign=socialflow_lifehacker_facebook&utm_source=lifehacker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow Sincerely, Derek Chaves Technical Project Manager NE INDEX/Shriver Center/UMASS Medical School 200 Trapelo Road Waltham, MA 02452 781-642-0288 - Office www.disabilityinfo.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paire at temple.edu Mon Aug 27 11:41:15 2012 From: paire at temple.edu (Paul E. Paire) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Dragon Naturally Speaking For Free! In-Reply-To: <4599527AD714FA42B45CEDFE81CA397D1E6E4D@OC11expo28.exchange.mit.edu> References: <4599527AD714FA42B45CEDFE81CA397D1E6E4D@OC11expo28.exchange.mit.edu> Message-ID: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C71C828C64@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> Thanks Kathy, I was looking for that matrix. However, what NewEgg is selling is 11.5, not 12. I just came across this, which is for the 11.5 version: http://www.nuance.com/ucmprod/groups/dragon/@web-enus/documents/collateral/nd_004125.pdf -Paul From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 2:36 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] RE: Dragon Naturally Speaking For Free! It's the Home version they are advertising, so just make sure it has all the features you need: http://www.nuance.com/for-individuals/by-product/dragon-for-pc/DNS12FeatureMarix.xml Kathy Kathleen Cahill Assistive Technology Specialist MIT ATIC (Assistive Tech. Info. Center) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Chaves, Derek Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 2:15 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: [Athen] Dragon Naturally Speaking For Free! All, I have come across an article from lifehacker stating how to get a free license for dragon. The article says the rebates are available this week only. http://lifehacker.com/5938134/dragon-naturallyspeaking-speeds-up-your-writing-is-free-this-week-only?utm_campaign=socialflow_lifehacker_facebook&utm_source=lifehacker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow Sincerely, Derek Chaves Technical Project Manager NE INDEX/Shriver Center/UMASS Medical School 200 Trapelo Road Waltham, MA 02452 781-642-0288 - Office www.disabilityinfo.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsuttondc at earthlink.net Thu Aug 23 09:47:42 2012 From: jsuttondc at earthlink.net (Jennifer Sutton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Call for Papers: Text Customization for Readability Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20120823094612.0571ab80@earthlink.net> Thought some on the ATHEN email list might find this of interest, in case you've not seen elsewhere. With apologies for any duplication. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Call for Papers: Text Customization for Readability Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 09:34:38 -0500 From: Shawn Henry To: WAI Interest Group Dear WAI Interest Group: The W3C WAI Research and Development Working Group (RDWG) invites you to contribute to the online symposium on Text Customization for Readability. Submission date: 24 September 2012 Symposium date: 19 November 2012 This symposium brings together researchers, practitioners, and users with disabilities to explore the needs of people with low vision, dyslexia, and other conditions and situations that impact reading. We invite research and position papers of about 1,000 words. We encourage you to submit new research, ongoing research, and analysis of past research related to text customization for readability. Submissions will be peer-reviewed. Accepted papers will be published online in an attributable form as part of the symposium proceedings. Authors of accepted papers will be invited to participate in the symposium panel. *For more information about the symposium and submissions, please see*: - Text Customization for Readability Symposium main page: - Call for Papers: If you are interested in contributing to this Symposium, please submit your paper by: *24 September 2012* Feel free to circulate this message to other lists; please avoid cross-postings where possible. --------- RDWG Background: The Research and Development Working Group (RDWG) helps: - increase accessibility considerations in research on web technologies, including mainstream research, - suggest research questions that may contribute to web accessibility research projects, - inform development of web accessibility solutions, - decrease the number of potential barriers in future web-related technologies. RDWG Symposia bring together researchers, practitioners, and users with disabilities interested in a particular aspect of web accessibility to advance research and development in that area. The online Symposia include a panel with the authors of accepted papers, and provide an opportunity for participants to ask questions. Symposia proceedings, transcript, and a report are available publicly online afterward. For more information, see the RDWG FAQ: We welcome your ideas on this topic and your ideas for future RDWG work. Please send comments to the publicly-archived mailing list: This Symposium is developed with support of the EC-funded WAI-ACT Project (IST 287725) described at: If you have any questions, contact Shadi Abou-Zahra: shadi@w3.org Regards, Shawn Lawton Henry, WAI Outreach Simon Harper, RDWG Co-Chair Shadi Abou-Zahra, RDWG W3C Staff Contact ----- Shawn Lawton Henry W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) e-mail: shawn@w3.org phone: +1.617.395.7664 about: http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/ From dana.jones at aims.edu Thu Aug 23 13:25:08 2012 From: dana.jones at aims.edu (Dana Jones) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Audio book Message-ID: Colleagues - I am looking for a text in alternative format for a student is blind. Anyone have Western Heritage VI Volume 1 to 1740? Author is Kagan. 10th Edition by Pearson Education copyright date 2009? We have contacted the publisher who said they could provide it in 2-4 weeks. We were hoping for sooner. Thank you, Dana Jones ADA Coordinator Disabilities Access Services College Center *dana.jones@aims.edu* Office: 970.339.6388 FAX: 970.506.6937 Appointments: 970.339.6251 *disabilities@aims.edu*** * * Summer hours: M-TH 7:30Am - 5:30PM * * [image: Description: Aims Community College] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 4293 bytes Desc: not available URL: From eea1 at sfu.ca Mon Aug 27 11:50:26 2012 From: eea1 at sfu.ca (Ella Reichelt) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Audio book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2118827834.3038143.1346093426401.JavaMail.root@jaguar9.sfu.ca> Hi Dana, ? Try bookshare.org, I think they have it. ? Ella Reichelt | Disability Services Officer Centre for Students with Disabilities | Simon Fraser University 1250 Maggie Benston Centre 8888 University Drive, Burnaby | V5A 1S6 Tel: 778.782.5346 | Fax: 778.782.4384 | Email: eea1@sfu.ca ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Jones" To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:25:08 PM Subject: [Athen] Audio book Colleagues - ? I am looking for a text in alternative format for a student is blind.? Anyone have Western Heritage VI Volume 1 to 1740?? Author is Kagan.? 10th Edition by Pearson Education copyright date 2009?? We have contacted the publisher who said they could provide it in 2-4 weeks.? We were hoping for sooner. ? Thank you, ? Dana Jones ADA Coordinator Disabilities Access Services College Center dana.jones@aims.edu Office:? 970.339.6388 FAX:? 970.506.6937 Appointments: 970.339.6251 disabilities@aims.edu ? Summer hours:? M-TH? 7:30Am - 5:30PM ? ? 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Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Dana Jones Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 2:25 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Audio book Colleagues - I am looking for a text in alternative format for a student is blind. Anyone have Western Heritage VI Volume 1 to 1740? Author is Kagan. 10th Edition by Pearson Education copyright date 2009? We have contacted the publisher who said they could provide it in 2-4 weeks. We were hoping for sooner. Thank you, Dana Jones ADA Coordinator Disabilities Access Services College Center dana.jones@aims.edu Office: 970.339.6388 FAX: 970.506.6937 Appointments: 970.339.6251 disabilities@aims.edu Summer hours: M-TH 7:30Am - 5:30PM [cid:image001.gif@01CD8453.53039C70] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We have contacted the publisher who said they could provide it in 2-4 weeks. We were hoping for sooner. Thank you, Dana Jones ADA Coordinator Disabilities Access Services College Center dana.jones@aims.edu Office: 970.339.6388 FAX: 970.506.6937 Appointments: 970.339.6251 disabilities@aims.edu Summer hours: M-TH 7:30Am - 5:30PM [Description: Aims Community College] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com Making Online Teaching Accessible: Inclusive Course Design for Students with Disabilities by Norman Coombs published by Jossey-Bass Oct 10,2010 http://www.josseybass.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470499044.html From Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU Tue Aug 28 10:48:11 2012 From: Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU (Susan Kelmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Strata Publishing Company Message-ID: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3245BB4@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Has anyone had trouble reaching them? Their website appears to be down. I've never tried to get a book from them before so if anyone has tips...I'd be glad to hear them! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: