[Athen] Re: athen-list Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13

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Thank you so much Gaeir and others who responded re: tactile graphics. Very helpful!

Best,
Karen

Sent from mobile device. Please excuse brevity & misspellings.

On Jan 5, 2012, at 2:00 PM, athen-list-request at mailman1.u.washington.

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>   1. RE: Tactile Graphics (Gaeir Dietrich)

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> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:57:21 -0800

> From: "Gaeir Dietrich" <gdietrich at htctu.net>

> Subject: RE: [Athen] Tactile Graphics

> To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'"

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> Probably the reason you are not getting more responses is that few colleges

> actually do tactiles. So, here is more info.

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> Just as a rule of thumb, graphics that show relationships are often

> presented best as tactile graphics include the following:

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> * mathematical charts and graphs

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> * maps 

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> * scientific diagrams 

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> Ironically, it often works out that the more technical a subject is, the

> more the tactile graphics are necessary. 

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> Teresa is absolutely right that other than those situations, the best

> solution is most often a good description.

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> Also be aware that if a student has not had experience with tactile

> graphics, s/he may not be particularly comfortable with them. You can help

> with the learning curve by creating more three-dimensional tactiles, using

> collage techniques.

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> As an example of what I mean, one of our alt media specialists was working

> with a blind student who was taking anatomy and physiology. The student was

> not used to using tactile graphics and found the PIAF versions too hard to

> understand. What they ended up doing is working first with the 3-D models

> the campus owned, then creating representative collage graphics (gluing

> things on paper-for the female reproductive system, for instance, they used

> narrow rubber tubing for the fallopian tubes and cotton balls for the

> ovaries, etc.), and then transitioning to the PIAF versions. The student was

> able to "grok" how the graphics worked and was fine with the PIAF versions

> after that.

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> BANA now has guidelines (thanks to my hero, Lucia!!! ;-) for tactile

> graphics:

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> http://www.brailleauthority.org/tg/index.html 

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> Also be aware that American Printing House for the Blind (APH) has an image

> library for tactile graphics:

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> http://www.aph.org/tgil/ 

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> They also sell premade tactile graphics. The anatomy tactiles are

> particularly useful for college-level work. 

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> A great product that they sell allows you to create quick tactile graphics

> on the fly, as well as being suitable for students to use. APH calls it the

> Draftsman Tactile Drawing Board. I have used a similar product for years

> called the Sewell Raised Line Drawing Kit.

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> Finally, APH has a two-video set called the "Good Tactile Graphic" that is a

> very useful primer on creating tactile graphics. When I was doing tactile

> graphics trainings, I would actually use the videos because they gave such a

> great overview of how one needs to think in order to create tactiles.

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> Hope this helps!

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> Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich

> High Tech Center Training Unit of the

> California Community Colleges

> De Anza College, Cupertino, CA

> <http://www.htctu.net/> www.htctu.net 

> 408-996-6043

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> From: athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu

> [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Julie

> Balassa

> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:37 AM

> To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'

> Subject: RE: [Athen] Tactile Graphics

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> We use Adobe Illustrator to create the graphics and PIAF to output them

> (thanks for the tip some years back Gaeir, that system has worked really

> well!) Whether you give the student TG or a description really depends on

> the complexity of the graphics and the preference and skill set of the

> student.

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> jkb

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> Julie K. Balassa

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> Assistant Director, Office for Students with Disabilities

> Valencia College

> Mail Code 3-31

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> 701 N Econlockhatchee Trail

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> Orlando, FL 32825

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> office: building 5 suite 216

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> west: 407.582.1603

> vp east: 407.374.1562

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> vp west: 407-992-8941

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> jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu

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> http://valenciacc.edu/osd

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> Please note that Valencia's name changed to Valencia College on July 1,

> 2011. Therefore, all college email addresses have changed. My new email

> address is  <mailto:jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu>

> jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu. Please send all email to me at this new

> address. As of September 2011, all email sent to

> <mailto:jbalassa at valenciacc.edu> jbalassa at valenciacc.edu will be returned as

> undeliverable. 

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> From: athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu

> [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa

> Haven

> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:24 PM

> To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'

> Subject: RE: [Athen] Tactile Graphics

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> Hi, Karen and all.  We use a couple of different technologies: a PIAF and

> swell paper, or a Tiger embosser, both used by people trained in producing

> tactile graphics.  For many graphics tactiles are not necessary; the content

> in the image can be appropriately described in text by trained personnel.

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> Hope this helps,

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> Teresa

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> Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D.

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> Supervisor, Alternative Format Services

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> Disability Resource Center

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> Arizona State University

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> From: athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu

> [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu]

> <mailto:%5bmailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu%5d>  On

> Behalf Of Karen Sorensen

> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 11:14 AM

> To: athen-list at u.washington.edu

> Subject: [Athen] Tactile Graphics

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> Hi -

> Thanks to Gaeir for the reply. What do others do to make graphics accessible

> to blind and low-vision students? 

> Wink - Gaeir is the only person who replied. What have you used in the past?

> Are there services that people outsource graphics to? 

> Thanks,

> Karen

> -- 

> Karen M. Sorensen

> Instructional Technology Specialist 

> Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses

> Portland Community College

> 971-722-4720

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> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:49:46 -0700 (MST)

> From: "Wink Harner" <winkharner at mesacc.edu>

> Subject: RE: [Athen] tactile graphics

> To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'"

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> Did you find anyone to answer your questions yet, Karen?

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> Wink

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> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:24:11 -0800

> From: "Gaeir Dietrich" <gdietrich at htctu.net>

> Subject: RE: [Athen] tactile graphics

> To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'"

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> I do like the IVEO system for creating talking tactile graphics for

> students. One of my favorite features is the fact that you can add text to

> your graphic that will then be read as text-to-speech. Some of the competing

> products only allow recorded audio in the talking graphic, which I find much

> more cumbersome.

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> Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich

> High Tech Center Training Unit of the

> California Community Colleges

> De Anza College, Cupertino, CA

> <http://www.htctu.net/> www.htctu.net <http://www.htctu.net/> 

> 408-996-6043

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