[Athen] screen readers other than jaws? powerpoint access

E.A. Draffan ea at emptech.info
Sun Jan 8 10:55:31 PST 2012


I have always felt that Powertalk was not really designed for use by those
who are blind but rather those who have lost their voice or have speech and
language difficulties or stammer and this is how I have used it in the past
- I have copied in Steve Lee who developed the application - it reads all
those slides that have accessible templates, but does not allow users to
create a PowerPoint presentations with voiced interactions.



Best wishes E.A.



Mrs E.A. Draffan

ECS, University of Southampton,

Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246

http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk

http://www.emptech.info



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[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Prof Norm
Coombs
Sent: 08 January 2012 01:04
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] screen readers other than jaws? powerpoint access



Curious about Powert

Will it let the user only read an existing presentation or will it let the
user create powerpoint him or herself??

Reading isn't good enough.

At 03:28 PM 1/4/2012, you wrote:



As far as listening to powerpoint:
Powertalk, which has been around for over 10 years, still reads them
just fine in Office 2010 from Win 7. Like NVDA, there's also a portable
version that will run on any computer despite restrictions.
<http://sourceforge.net/projects/powertalk/files/latest/download?source=file
s> Download PowerTalk-1.2.14.exe (3.4 MB)

Switching from Outlook to Thunderbird was a step that I don't regret for the
following reasons:
free
NVDA accessible
better low vision customization
lots of good add-ons

As for making accessible Powerpoint presentations, maybe this will help:


Logical Document Structure Handbook: PowerPoint 2007




ISBN: 978-0-9782675-6-8
Price: $75.00

Anyone working with PowerPoint will recognize some of the accessibility
issues that people using adaptive technology can encounter. This book
details the decision making process that starts your design process for your
presentation. The accessibility of your PowerPoint documents depends on how
you are going to distribute them. The chapters in this book provide
information on what elements of a slide can be accessible and how someone
using adaptive technology can access tables, Excel or Word documents, shapes
or SmartArt. You'll learn how to make accessible slide masters.which is not
as difficult as you might think.

You can purchase the book from Karlen Communications by invoice or PO. If
you want to purchase this book using a credit card and you live in the US,
call IRTI at 1-800-322-4784 or 530-274-2090.


Chris Johnson
Assistive Technology Specialist
expressABLE
Loveland, CO
chris at eable.org

"Express, Educate and Employ Your Abilities with the Right Technology and
Training!"

On 1/4/12 7:26 AM, Ken Petri wrote:



In my experience NVDA works well with Word and Excel, including the 2010
version, though I am coming at this only as a tester, not as a screen reader
reliant user. NVDA themselves state that their product does not work with
Access or PowerPoint. And it works only partially with Outlook 2010. NVDA
recommends use of Mozilla Thunderbird as an installed mail client, in lieu
of Outlook.

My gut is NVDA will not work with PowerPoint going forward, unless MS or
some other benefactor gives the project some $ to do the work.

ken
--
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Program Director, OSU Web Accessibility Center
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Office: 614.292.1760 | Mobile: 614.218.1499 | Fax: 614.292.4190
http://wac.osu.edu | petri.1 at osu.edu



On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Gabbert, Darren L. <darren at missouri.edu>
wrote:

I thought NVDA had good capability with Microsoft Office products. Could
you mention any specific conflicts?



Darren Gabbert

Grants & Contracts Administrator

Adaptive Computing Technology Center

University of Missouri Division of IT

N-18 Memorial Union

Columbia, MO 65211

Phone: (573) 673-5629 <tel:%28573%29%20673-5629>

Fax: (314) 594-9909 <tel:%28314%29%20594-9909>

Darren at Missouri.edu





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[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron
Stewart

Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:45 PM

To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'

Subject: RE: [Athen] screen readers other than jaws?

For the most part no it does not. NVDA is a great general access product,
but it is totally unsuitable for access to most academic software and
applications such as MS Office.

Ron Stewart

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[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bundy,
Keith

Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:46 AM

To: Access Technology Higher Education Network

Subject: RE: [Athen] screen readers other than jaws?

Hello, Pratik. Do you know if the latest iteration of NVDA works with Office
2010?



Keith Bundy, MS

Dakota State University

Phone: 605-256-5121

Email: keith.bundy at dsu.edu



-----Original Message-----

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[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pratik
Patel

Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:53 AM

To: gdietrich at htctu.net; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'

Subject: RE: [Athen] screen readers other than jaws?

I am working with several large University clients to install NVDA on their
machines and include it as a standard part of machine images. Unless there
are specific requests forJAWS features, they are instituting training
programs forNVDA to all students who need screen readers.

Regards,

Pratik



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[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir
Dietrich

Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:43 PM

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Subject: RE: [Athen] screen readers other than jaws?

Some of our campuses are looking at putting NVDA on all their computers and
providing JAWS for those few who request it.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich

High Tech Center Training Unit of the

California Community Colleges

De Anza College, Cupertino, CA

www.htctu.net

408-996-6043

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[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert
Beach

Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:12 AM

To: Access Technology Higher Education Network

Subject: RE: [Athen] screen readers other than jaws?

So far, JAWS has worked well here. I have had a few students who use System
Access on their own, but they use JAWS when on campus. No complaints.



Robert Lee Beach

Assistive Technology Specialist

Kansas City Kansas Community College

7250 State Avenue

Kansas City, KS 66112

913-288-7671

rbeach at kckcc.edu



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[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Jennison
Mark Asuncion

Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:01 AM

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Subject: [Athen] screen readers other than jaws?

Hello,

Happy new year - I've been curious so figured I'd ask if campuses are
standardizing on screen readers other than the perennial, JAWS? Are you
finding you are needing to have a mix of screen reading software available
for blind/visually impaired users?

Jennison



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