[Athen] RE: Canuvs Vs Blackboard ? for Dan: athen-list Digest, Vol 78, Issue 16

Bill Grubaugh grubaugh at sfsu.edu
Wed Jul 25 15:34:14 PDT 2012

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Hi Dan et. al.
Thanks for the feedback on Canvas. You mentioned That Canvas's Grading module has serious accessibility issues; is this faculty facing or, student facing?

I ask because, if it is faculty facing then the likely hood of individual accommodation may be in place and/or, could be readily implemented for this LMS feature/function; while the company tends to the problem.

Does Blackboard also have a comparatively equal problem?

If and when doing comparative assessments of products do you weigh - what I'd call public facing interface features over staff facing interface accessibility? E.g., If two products are not fully accessible yet one has a fairly good student facing interface, yet the faculty facing has issues and the other is converse student facing is troublesome the one with the faculty issues may be a better choice - depending on the critical needs and functional requirements of the Requester. Then again the critical need in education is to reach students so I guess that should be factored into the product functionality from the get-go.
What do ya think?

>From Dan:

"While many modules are overall accessible, some key elements, including the grading module, have what appear to be serious accessibility problems, esp for keyboard/screenreader users."

Bill Grubaugh MS HF/E
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Hi all -

I'm quite new to this list, so please let me know if this isn't the proper forum for this question.

My university is considering shifting to a new Learning Management System. The university has narrowed the choices down to sticking with Blackboard 9.1 (which we currently use) or moving to Instructure's Canvas LMS.

I've been asked to research and compare the accessibility of the two programs. I've found plenty of info online, especially about Blackboard, but would love to hear any first hand experiences--positive or negative--that users have encountered using either Blackboard or Canvas.

I'm particularly interested about how user-friendly the systems are for screen-readers users. A system may be technically accessible but not particularly easy to use.

Thanks so much for any help - if you have suggestions for other listservs or venues where I might get additional feedback, please let me know!

Many thanks,
Christina Wulf

Office of Disability Services
Accessible Media & Technology Assistant
James Madison University
Wilson Hall 208
540-568-5046
wulfcx at jmu.edu

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Hi Christine,

I've nearly completed assessing our pilot implementation of Canvas.

While many modules are overall accessible, some key elements, including the
grading module, have what appear to be serious accessibility problems, esp
for keyboard/screenreader users.

I would encourage a complete assessment of both options before making a
choice. If you'd like to see my draft notes, drop me a direct email note.

-*- Dan

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Wulf, Christina - wulfcx <wulfcx at jmu.edu>wrote:

> Hi all -

>

> I'm quite new to this list, so please let me know if this isn't the proper

> forum for this question.

>

> My university is considering shifting to a new Learning Management System.

> The university has narrowed the choices down to sticking with Blackboard

> 9.1 (which we currently use) or moving to Instructure's Canvas LMS.

>

> I've been asked to research and compare the accessibility of the two

> programs. I've found plenty of info online, especially about Blackboard,

> but would love to hear any first hand experiences--positive or

> negative--that users have encountered using either Blackboard or Canvas.

>

> I'm particularly interested about how user-friendly the systems are for

> screen-readers users. A system may be technically accessible but not

> particularly easy to use.

>

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-*- Dan Comden danc at uw.edu <danc at washington.edu>
Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/
University of Washington UW Information Technology
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