[Athen] RE: athen-list Digest, Vol 74,
Issue 8: 508/255 ATHENS Responce
Bill Grubaugh
grubaugh at sfsu.edu
Tue Mar 6 22:03:48 PST 2012
Joe etal,
I trust that by sending a revised edited copy to you directly - this will make sense.
Thanks, I looked through parts that seemed to have my messy fingerprints on them and suggest these changes.
Chapter 2 - to whoever dressed up that section - thanks - my wife is smiling she nabbed the same spots :-)
Advisory 402.1
Omit the systems modeling lingo (closedloop...) for something more to the point.
Rewrite:
Advisory 402.1 General
• Request that this Advisory include/reference language already within 2010 ADA Standards for Accessible Design pertaining to Vending and ATM machines.
Omit: "Unifying the two areas public use, Architectural and Electronic, would bring otherwise dispersed offices of expertise together". I'll trust that this point will be made".
I like this rewrite but I think to cast the broadest net we include the question and request for funding training to all topics, including elements relevant to procurement officers, buyers and administrative staff -
Omit:
* This section mentions training and the use of “People First Language”.
*Is it in the Access Board’s purview to mandate that federal general funds be made available to agencies for the improvement of support services training and professional development to advance the use of “People First Language”?
Advisory 603.2 Information on Accessibility and Compatibility Features
Omit
• This section mentions training and the use of “People First Language”.
Is it in the Access Board’s purview to mandate that federal general funds be made available to agencies for the improvement of support services training and professional development to advance the use of “People First Language”?
Omit (How it's done is their business - we may just want to suggest that they explicitly state that it should be done)
"Possible language would discuss how general budgets might be scaled to an agency’s size accounting for and brother/sister departments, scope of agencies document creation, public interaction and procurement".
(Copy Advisory in full):
A best practice is for ICT support services to provide training programs about the following topics: accessibility requirements for individuals with disabilities; methods of communication used by individuals with disabilities; assistive technology commonly used with ICT products; designing for accessibility; solutions for accessibility and compatibility of ICT with assistive technology; the use of people-first language; and sensitivity training concerning disability issues.
(Propose the Question):
Is it in the Access Board’s purview to state that independent agencies and government corporations created by Congress shall be specifically and sufficiently funded for ICT support service training programs in all topics listed?
(Follow with Statement):
If so, 508 Support Services should, at minimum, also include: ICT accessible document creation and remediation; ICT product assessment; user testing; and publication of methods and findings for procurement officers, buyers, and administrative personnel.
Finally -
Omit (Used by GSA)
This infers that some testing or at minimum, VPAT or GPAT (used by the GSA) assessment skill set be in place be that in-house or outsourced. This may be inferred in section C207.2 Product Design Development, and Evaluation:
Bill Grubaugh
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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 23:18:33 +0000
From: Teresa Haven <Teresa.Haven at asu.edu>
Subject: RE: [Athen] ALEKS accessibility
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Still not accessible.
Teresa
Gaeir Dietrich <gdietrich at htctu.net> wrote:
The last I checked (about a year and a half ago) they were not at all accessible.
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Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich
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Subject: [Athen] ALEKS accessibility
Anyone have information on the accessibility of ALEKS, the math assessment tool? (www.aleks.com<http://www.aleks.com>) This is being rolled out here, apparently, and there are questions being raised. I?ve never heard of it. Anyone have insight?
Susan Kelmer
Alternate Format Coordinator
Disability Services
University of Colorado
303-735-4836
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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 04:05:47 +0000
From: "Humbert, Joseph A" <johumber at iupui.edu>
Subject: RE: [Athen] ATHEN's response to the section 508 update
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Hi All,
Attached and linked is the updated version with both Patrick and Dan's comments/edits included (Thankx Guys). Patrick and Dan could you please take a look and see if you approve or if you find new errors. If anyone has any additional comments, I need them by 12pm EST. Thankx again to all who participated.
Alterative link to document: http://www.joehumbert.com/ATHEN_Response_to_Access_Board_ANPRM.doc
- Joe <http://iuadapts.indiana.edu/>
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If at all possible we need to get this finalized by first thing in the AM, thus far the response from AHEAD has been favorable. I would like them to sign on but regardless feel this is worth sending forward with the most recent editorial review.
Ron Stewart
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Hi Joe
Had a look and made some edits to clean up some typos and usage. There seems to be a reference to content (I made the comment as an edit) that is missing. The revised/edited doc is attached.
-*- Dan
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Humbert, Joseph A <johumber at iupui.edu<mailto:johumber at iupui.edu>> wrote:
Hello ATHEN list members,
Attached is the draft of ATHEN?s response to the Section 508 update created by a sub-group of members who volunteered to work on it. Everyone please review the document and post comments back to the list. Comments are needed by 5pm tomorrow so that I may finalize the response and submit it before the 11:59pm deadline on March 7th. I apologize for the late notice, but there was a very short time table on this project. Thank you to all those who have participated.
Alterative link to document: http://www.joehumbert.com/ATHEN_Response_to_Access_Board_ANPRM.doc
Joe Humbert, Assistive Technology and Web Accessibility Specialist
UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers
Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington
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