From wink.harner at mesacc.edu Thu Sep 6 11:56:40 2012 From: wink.harner at mesacc.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS Accessible pronunciation guide Message-ID: <5048f1eb.6a86440a.7155.ffffb469@mx.google.com> Hi all, Am in search of a JAWS accessible pronunciation guide for medical terminology. Any good ideas about where to start looking? Thanks for whatever assistance/directions you can provide ;>) Wink Ms. Wink Harner Project Support OHS - NU6 119 Mesa Community College 1833 W. Southern Avenue Mesa AZ 85202 480-461-7448 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Now that both candidates have their formal nominations and the NFDI is only four weeks, we expect a decision soon. With that in mind I encourage you to participate; add voice to the chorus of the disability community and encourage both candidates to come to Columbus or to make sure they are well represented on September 28th . If you can spare 10 minutes in the next 24 hours please take these four simple actions to influence the campaign, the election and disability policy: Invite: compose an e-mail, send a letter, make a video, or take a photo and send it to both candidates then encourage others to do the same. By inviting them to attend you are telling them that people with disabilities are informed voters who matter in this election. View other invitations and get contact information here http://www.nfdi.org/invite_candidates/ . Register: The forum will be webcast live for free. Encourage everyone to register today at http://www.nfdi.org/ Facebook: Friend us, and share the posts frequently with your audience: http://www.facebook.com/pages/National-Forum-On-Disability-Issues/303386 236416370 . Twitter: Encourage everyone who has a Twitter account to Follow the NFDI feed by going to https://twitter.com/nfdi and clicking on the follow button. The more folks that are following the twitter feed the more seriously it will be taken by the social media watchers in the campaigns. Also, re-tweet (RT) the messages of others and include the hash tag #nfdi2012, thus making sure all of the tweets will be able to be collected in one place or feed. Once you have taken the four simple steps If you have not registered to vote - do so! Plan on voting for someone this November. Join me and AHEAD in this nonpartisan request for the campaigns to share their perspectives, proposed policies and priorities on disability issues with the community. L. Scott Lissner, President, Associaiotion on Higher Education And Disabilty (AHEAD ) Ohio State University ADA Coordinator, Office Of Diversity And Inclusion Associate, John Glenn School of Public Affairs Lecturer, Knowlton School of Architecture, Moritz College of Law & Disability Studies President, Association on Higher Education And Disability Chair, ADA-OHIO Appointed, Ohio Governor's Council For People With Disabilities, State HAVA Committee & Columbus Advisory Council on Disability Issues -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CUTLER_ELLEN at smc.edu Sat Sep 8 18:36:28 2012 From: CUTLER_ELLEN at smc.edu (CUTLER_ELLEN) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Web Accessibility Toolbar and Distance Education Message-ID: Hello, Are any of you familiar with a web accessibility evaluation toolbar that works within a distance education shell (access by password only)? Thanks in advance for your help. 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It is a locally run application (Windows only) that will scan any page or site, including password-protected ones. http://www.powermapper.com/products/sortsite/ Greg -- Greg Kraus University IT Accessibility Coordinator NC State University 919.513.4087 greg_kraus@ncsu.edu On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:36 PM, CUTLER_ELLEN wrote: > Hello, > > Are any of you familiar with a web accessibility evaluation toolbar that > works within a distance education shell (access by password only)? > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Ellen > > Ellen Cutler > Santa Monica College > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > From greg_kraus at ncsu.edu Mon Sep 10 11:00:19 2012 From: greg_kraus at ncsu.edu (Greg Kraus) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Web Accessibility Toolbar and Distance Education In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Depending on your exact needs (I'll do a little self-promoting here) I have a tool that I have developed that evaluates for certain accessibility features. I've been using this tool internally for a while. It needs a little polishing still, but it's ready for a wider audience to begin looking at it. This tool does not cover all aspects of Web accessibility. It specifically shows document structure information that is useful to screen reader users. It will show you how many headings, ARIA landmarks, tabindex attributes, and internal links are present on a page. It will also visually show you where they are located. I find this information useful because I don't have to fire up a screen reader to begin exploring how a screen reader will experience a page or where any crazy author-defined navigation (like using lots of tabindexes) are present. http://accessibility.oit.ncsu.edu/tools/web-evaluation-tools/ I wouldn't make this tool the first one I give out to people, especially people who are newer to Web accessibility, but it might help you in your case. Greg -- Greg Kraus University IT Accessibility Coordinator NC State University 919.513.4087 greg_kraus@ncsu.edu On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Greg Kraus wrote: > Hi Ellen, > > Many toolbars will work because they do all of their evaluations > directly in the browser instead of relying on an external site to have > to get around password security. Both of these should work for > Firefox. > > The WAVE Toolbar > http://wave.webaim.org/toolbar > > Accessibility Evaluation Toolbar > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/accessibility-evaluation-toolb/ > > For a full-featured Web accessibility evaluator, we use SortSite. It > is a locally run application (Windows only) that will scan any page or > site, including password-protected ones. > http://www.powermapper.com/products/sortsite/ > > Greg > > -- > Greg Kraus > University IT Accessibility Coordinator > NC State University > 919.513.4087 > greg_kraus@ncsu.edu > > On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:36 PM, CUTLER_ELLEN wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Are any of you familiar with a web accessibility evaluation toolbar that >> works within a distance education shell (access by password only)? >> >> Thanks in advance for your help. >> >> Ellen >> >> Ellen Cutler >> Santa Monica College >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> From hkramer.atsol at gmail.com Mon Sep 10 11:02:06 2012 From: hkramer.atsol at gmail.com (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Early registration discount for Accessing Higher Ground ends this week Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, Just a reminder that the early registration discount for AHG 2012 ends this week. Save up to 12% - Register by September 15 Keynote Derek Featherstone of Simply Accessibleto headline program of over 70 sessions Nov. 12 - Nov. 16, 2012 Session topics include: (titles link to session description) - An ATHEN Workshop on Implementing Accessibility on Campus - A-Z, Ron Stewart, Terry Thompson ... - Real World Accessibility for HTML5, CSS3 and ARIA, Derek Featherstone, Simply Accessible - Testing Mobile Applications and Websites for Accessibility, Kathy Wahlbin, Interactive Accessibility - Working with Accessible PDF Documents, Karen McCall, Karlen Communications - iBook, eBook, and eReader App Accessibility on the iPad and iPhone , Susanne Mistric, Wake Technical - Options for Accessible Distance Education for Deaf and Hard of Hearing Students, Michelle Swaney & Cindy Camp, pepnet 2 - Congratulations-you're in charge of Alt Format. Now what?, Julie Balassa, Valencia College - Building an Accessibility Initiative: A Case Study from The University of Oklahoma, Rob Carr, Digital Accessibility Center - View complete agenda -- Howard Kramer AHG Conference Coordinator 303-492-8672 fax: 492-5601 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca Tue Sep 11 19:53:36 2012 From: asuncion at alcor.concordia.ca (Jennison Mark Asuncion) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] free Accessibility events in DC Oct 13 & LA Oct 20 Message-ID: Hello. Registration is open for two free events on digital accessibility taking place in October. The first is the fourth Accessibility Camp D.C. on Saturday October 13 http://accesscampdc12.eventbrite.com. The second is one I am co-leading, the first Accessibility Camp Los Angeles on Saturday October 20 http://www.accessibilitycampla.org. The premise for both events is the same, to bring members of the design, development, usability, accessibility, related IT communities, and users with disabilities together to discuss all aspects of digital accessibility, from technical to tactical. There is no assumed level of knowledge on the topic, participants come from all sectors, and the mood of the day is deliberately informal. Attendees either come to present on a topic, and/or to learn from each other. I bet everyone here can think of at least a couple of people either in campus IT or in their instructional technology/eLearning group that could benefit from spending time learning about accessibility and/or sharing best practices and lessons learned. I am especially excited to be bringing accessibility camp to southern California, and to help with efforts in raising awareness on the subject among the tech community in the L.A. area. To that end, if you know individuals who live in the Southland who have either a professional or personal interest in digital accessibility, please help spread the word. I do have prepared text which I am happy to share. E-mail a11ycampla@gmail.com. There's background on these camp events at http://www.accessibilitycamp.org and at http://g3ict.com/resource_center/newsletter/news/p/newsletterId_/id_376. Jennison -- Jennison Mark Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/jennison Accessibility Camp Toronto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeP5Kl4GDgA From jbailey at uoregon.edu Wed Sep 12 06:35:02 2012 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Quality Matters Rubrics Message-ID: Lately I have encountered some schools that claim to use the Quality Matters evaluation to check accessibility or "ensure" accessibility of their distance ed courses. Does anyone out there use this and, if so, how do you like it? Thanks in advance. James Bailey U of Oregon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:35 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Quality Matters Rubrics Lately I have encountered some schools that claim to use the Quality Matters evaluation to check accessibility or "ensure" accessibility of their distance ed courses. Does anyone out there use this and, if so, how do you like it? Thanks in advance. James Bailey U of Oregon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sdmacleo at svsu.edu Wed Sep 12 09:07:32 2012 From: sdmacleo at svsu.edu (Scott D. Mac Leod) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon commands In-Reply-To: <1365113050.1319906.1347465616671.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> Message-ID: <902789287.1320204.1347466052061.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> Can anyone please tell me where I can find a list of commands for Dragon 11.5? Which would allow a person to dictate algebraic problems. Thanks Scott Scott MacLeod Assistive Technology Specialist Email: sdmacleo@svsu.edu Phone: 989 964-4054 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wink.harner at mesacc.edu Wed Sep 12 09:16:13 2012 From: wink.harner at mesacc.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon commands In-Reply-To: <902789287.1320204.1347466052061.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> References: <1365113050.1319906.1347465616671.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> <902789287.1320204.1347466052061.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> Message-ID: Scott, Do you also have Math Talk & Scientific Notebook? If so, there is a list of commands + the military & greek alphabet which accompanies this set of programs designed specifically to dictate math, algebra & even physics. Wink Harner On Sep 12, 2012 9:11 AM, "Scott D. Mac Leod" wrote: > > Can anyone please tell me where I can find a list of commands for Dragon > 11.5? Which would allow a person to dictate algebraic problems. > Thanks > Scott > > Scott MacLeod > Assistive Technology Specialist > Email: sdmacleo@svsu.edu > Phone: 989 964-4054 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Shannon.Lavey at colostate.edu Wed Sep 12 09:35:07 2012 From: Shannon.Lavey at colostate.edu (Lavey,Shannon) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon commands In-Reply-To: <902789287.1320204.1347466052061.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> References: <1365113050.1319906.1347465616671.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> <902789287.1320204.1347466052061.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> Message-ID: <8ECA43D20640F4449329B3CAE767661A0F4E3F5F@ex13.colostate.edu> Hi Scott, I know of a cheat sheet with Dragon NS 11.5 commands?maybe this will help: http://www.nuance.com/ucmprod/groups/dragon/@web-enus/documents/collateral/nc_016356.pdf. The list of commands is at the end of the document. Sincerely, Shannon Lavey, MS, OTR Service Coordinator, Assistive Technology Resource Center 307 Occupational Therapy Building Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 970-491-4241 shannon.lavey@colostate.edu www.atrc.colostate.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Scott D. Mac Leod Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:08 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Dragon commands Can anyone please tell me where I can find a list of commands for Dragon 11.5? Which would allow a person to dictate algebraic problems. Thanks Scott Scott MacLeod Assistive Technology Specialist Email: sdmacleo@svsu.edu Phone: 989 964-4054 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wink.harner at mesacc.edu Wed Sep 12 10:45:23 2012 From: wink.harner at mesacc.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon commands In-Reply-To: <8ECA43D20640F4449329B3CAE767661A0F4E3F5F@ex13.colostate.edu> References: <1365113050.1319906.1347465616671.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> <902789287.1320204.1347466052061.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> <8ECA43D20640F4449329B3CAE767661A0F4E3F5F@ex13.colostate.edu> Message-ID: <5050ca36.a9bd440a.3483.28e9@mx.google.com> Hi ATHEN-ites, As a point of clarity, unless you want to write your own macros, Dragon will not dictate or display printed math properly. The best solution here would be the combo package MetroPlex Computing puts together with DNS, MathTalk and Scientific Notebook to create math in proper mathematical notation. Does a splendid job of dictating everything from basic math to algebra and physics. The package comes with a ?cheat sheet? of commands as well as a cheat sheet for both the military & the Greek alphabets. Get in touch with Nancilu McClellan at MetroPlex for more info & pricing. Wink Ms. Wink Harner Project Support OHS - NU6 119 Mesa Community College 1833 W. Southern Avenue Mesa AZ 85202 480-461-7448 From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Lavey,Shannon Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:35 AM To: 'Scott Macleod'; athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: RE: [Athen] Dragon commands Hi Scott, I know of a cheat sheet with Dragon NS 11.5 commands?maybe this will help: http://www.nuance.com/ucmprod/groups/dragon/@web-enus/documents/collateral/nc_016356.pdf. The list of commands is at the end of the document. Sincerely, Shannon Lavey, MS, OTR Service Coordinator, Assistive Technology Resource Center 307 Occupational Therapy Building Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 970-491-4241 shannon.lavey@colostate.edu www.atrc.colostate.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Scott D. Mac Leod Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:08 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Dragon commands Can anyone please tell me where I can find a list of commands for Dragon 11.5? Which would allow a person to dictate algebraic problems. Thanks Scott Scott MacLeod Assistive Technology Specialist Email: sdmacleo@svsu.edu Phone: 989 964-4054 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sdmacleo at svsu.edu Wed Sep 12 14:27:35 2012 From: sdmacleo at svsu.edu (Scott D. Mac Leod) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon commands In-Reply-To: <5050ca36.a9bd440a.3483.28e9@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1456438180.1329553.1347485255066.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> Wink, Thank you for all the useful information. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wink Harner" To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:45:23 PM Subject: RE: [Athen] Dragon commands Hi ATHEN-ites, As a point of clarity, unless you want to write your own macros, Dragon will not dictate or display printed math properly. The best solution here would be the combo package MetroPlex Computing puts together with DNS, MathTalk and Scientific Notebook to create math in proper mathematical notation. Does a splendid job of dictating everything from basic math to algebra and physics. The package comes with a ?cheat sheet? of commands as well as a cheat sheet for both the military & the Greek alphabets. Get in touch with Nancilu McClellan at MetroPlex for more info & pricing. Wink Ms. Wink Harner Project Support OHS - NU6 119 Mesa Community College 1833 W. Southern Avenue Mesa AZ 85202 480-461-7448 From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Lavey,Shannon Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:35 AM To: 'Scott Macleod'; athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: RE: [Athen] Dragon commands Hi Scott, I know of a cheat sheet with Dragon NS 11.5 commands?maybe this will help: http://www.nuance.com/ucmprod/groups/dragon/@web-enus/documents/collateral/nc_016356.pdf . The list of commands is at the end of the document. Sincerely, Shannon Lavey, MS, OTR Service Coordinator, Assistive Technology Resource Center 307 Occupational Therapy Building Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 970-491-4241 shannon.lavey@colostate.edu www.atrc.colostate.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [ mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu ] On Behalf Of Scott D. Mac Leod Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:08 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Dragon commands Can anyone please tell me where I can find a list of commands for Dragon 11.5? Which would allow a person to dictate algebraic problems. Thanks Scott Scott MacLeod Assistive Technology Specialist Email: sdmacleo@svsu.edu Phone: 989 964-4054 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Scott MacLeod Assistive Technology Specialist Email: sdmacleo@svsu.edu Phone: 989 964-4054 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wink.harner at mesacc.edu Wed Sep 12 15:02:53 2012 From: wink.harner at mesacc.edu (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon commands In-Reply-To: <1456438180.1329553.1347485255066.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> References: <5050ca36.a9bd440a.3483.28e9@mx.google.com> <1456438180.1329553.1347485255066.JavaMail.root@vmailbox4.svsu.edu> Message-ID: You are most welcome! Wink On Sep 12, 2012 2:30 PM, "Scott D. Mac Leod" wrote: > Wink, > Thank you for all the useful information. > Scott > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Wink Harner" > *To: *"Access Technology Higher Education Network" < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Sent: *Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:45:23 PM > *Subject: *RE: [Athen] Dragon commands > > Hi ATHEN-ites, > > > > As a point of clarity, unless you want to write your own macros, Dragon > will not dictate or display printed math properly. The best solution here > would be the combo package MetroPlex Computing puts together with DNS, > MathTalk and Scientific Notebook to create math in proper mathematical > notation. Does a splendid job of dictating everything from basic math to > algebra and physics. The package comes with a ?cheat sheet? of commands as > well as a cheat sheet for both the military & the Greek alphabets. Get in > touch with Nancilu McClellan at MetroPlex for more info & pricing. > > > > Wink > > > > Ms. Wink Harner > > Project Support > > OHS - NU6 119 > > Mesa Community College > > 1833 W. Southern Avenue > > Mesa AZ 85202 > > > > 480-461-7448 > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: > athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Lavey,Shannon > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:35 AM > *To:* 'Scott Macleod'; athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* RE: [Athen] Dragon commands > > > > Hi Scott, > > > > I know of a cheat sheet with Dragon NS 11.5 commands?maybe this will help: > http://www.nuance.com/ucmprod/groups/dragon/@web-enus/documents/collateral/nc_016356.pdf. > The list of commands is at the end of the document. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Shannon Lavey, MS, OTR > > > > Service Coordinator, Assistive Technology Resource Center > > 307 Occupational Therapy Building > > Colorado State University > > Fort Collins, CO 80523 > > 970-491-4241 > > shannon.lavey@colostate.edu > > www.atrc.colostate.edu > > > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [ > mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] > *On Behalf Of *Scott D. Mac Leod > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:08 AM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] Dragon commands > > > > > Can anyone please tell me where I can find a list of commands for Dragon > 11.5? Which would allow a person to dictate algebraic problems. > Thanks > Scott > > Scott MacLeod > Assistive Technology Specialist > Email: sdmacleo@svsu.edu > Phone: 989 964-4054 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > -- > Scott MacLeod > Assistive Technology Specialist > Email: sdmacleo@svsu.edu > Phone: 989 964-4054 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When I open up a folder and arrow down, JAWS reads the folder names and ai can go back up the list. When I reach the first actual file, JAWS reads and it locks. It says somethiing like folder books not responding. If anyone has ideas, I'll be happy to try it. Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It's never too late to become what you might have been. George Eliot Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com Making Online Teaching Accessible: Inclusive Course Design for Students with Disabilities by Norman Coombs published by Jossey-Bass Oct 10,2010 http://www.josseybass.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470499044.html From ndogbo at gmail.com Fri Sep 21 02:48:41 2012 From: ndogbo at gmail.com (N Dogbo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of HP Quality Center (ALM) Message-ID: <0B93BE1BE6704DC982522CE1E8486216@OWNERr91072> Hi, Is anyone using HP QualityCenter (ALM) with JAWS or NVDA or something else? It doesn't appear to be accessible or is it? So if anyone is using it effectively with JAWS or any other screen reader, pls let me know how you do it. Thanks, Nicaise else ----- Think not with your EYES and you shall have a perfect VISION! --- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Dave.M.Thomas at studentlife.du.edu Fri Sep 21 12:43:09 2012 From: Dave.M.Thomas at studentlife.du.edu (Dave M. Thomas) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Scan to Readable PDF Question Message-ID: Greetings! I have a friend who lives in Ghana. He has low vision and uses Zoom Text. He has asked me about scanners that scan text directly into readable PDFs. Does anybody know if this exists? Does Zoom Text have OCR built into its code? Thank you! Dave Dave Thomas, M.A., Academic CounselorAcademic Counselor Learning Effectiveness Program, University of Denver Academic Resources Katherine A. Ruffatto Hall, 4th Floor 1999 E. Evans Ave., Room 424 Denver, CO 80208 Phone: 303-871-7758 Fax: 303-871-3939 E-mail: dave.m.thomas@du.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JElmer at vcccd.edu Fri Sep 21 13:30:31 2012 From: JElmer at vcccd.edu (John Elmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Scan to Readable PDF Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: To my mind, it would not so much be the scanner but the associated software, which would need to perform the OCR on the image based PDF. The software does not need to be tied to the scanner in terms of deciding what to get. There are a # of programs that would do this, including Acrobat Pro, PDF Aloud, any standard OCR program, etc. My guess would be that programs that come with lower cost scanners could be less accurate. From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Dave M. Thomas Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:43 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Scan to Readable PDF Question Greetings! I have a friend who lives in Ghana. He has low vision and uses Zoom Text. He has asked me about scanners that scan text directly into readable PDFs. Does anybody know if this exists? Does Zoom Text have OCR built into its code? Thank you! Dave Dave Thomas, M.A., Academic CounselorAcademic Counselor Learning Effectiveness Program, University of Denver Academic Resources Katherine A. Ruffatto Hall, 4th Floor 1999 E. Evans Ave., Room 424 Denver, CO 80208 Phone: 303-871-7758 Fax: 303-871-3939 E-mail: dave.m.thomas@du.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alipkin at brandeis.edu Fri Sep 21 14:31:04 2012 From: alipkin at brandeis.edu (Adam Lipkin) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Scan to Readable PDF Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Dave -- There are some high-end commercial scanning stations (Scannx, Bookscan, etc) that do, indeed, scan to PDF (or to .doc, .rtf, etc), and also can email electronic copies of the files. The Public Services group of our library installed some of these this fall, and they seem to work pretty nicely as an institutional tool (noting that they're used less for access than for the convenience of faculty and graduate students scanning articles). I'm not sure if there's something like this really scaled (or, more accurately, priced) to the individual user, as most of the solutions I've seen there have relied on the traditional bundle-with-OCR-software choice, but given the general utility of them, perhaps he can make a case for an institutional investment (I'm also not sure of the availability in Ghana, of course)? Best, Adam On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Dave M. Thomas < Dave.M.Thomas@studentlife.du.edu> wrote: > Greetings!**** > > ** ** > > I have a friend who lives in Ghana. He has low vision and uses Zoom Text. > He has asked me about scanners that scan text directly into readable PDFs. > Does anybody know if this exists? Does Zoom Text have OCR built into its > code?**** > > ** ** > > Thank you!**** > > ** ** > > Dave**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Dave Thomas, M.A.,**** > > Academic CounselorAcademic Counselor**** > > Learning Effectiveness Program, University of Denver**** > > Academic Resources**** > > Katherine A. Ruffatto Hall, 4th Floor**** > > 1999 E. Evans Ave., Room 424**** > > Denver, CO 80208**** > > Phone: 303-871-7758**** > > Fax: 303-871-3939**** > > E-mail: dave.m.thomas@du.edu**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- Adam Lipkin Academic Applications Administrator alipkin@brandeis.edu 781-736-4795 Brandeis University Library and Technology Services Mailstop 017 Waltham, MA 02454 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Fri Sep 21 15:11:51 2012 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Scan to Readable PDF Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <505CE627.1020900@stanford.edu> > He has asked me about scanners that scan text directly into > readable PDFs. Does anybody know if this exists? Does Zoom > Text have OCR built into its code? Have you looked at any of the Canon Canoscan LiDE scanners? Based on the documentation, I believe you can "scan to PDF" which will do some OCR during the processing (the OCR happens on the user's computer). See: http://www.amazon.com/Canon-CanoScan-LiDE210-Scanner-4508B002/dp/B003VQR1TS Brother also makes a desktop model that offers OCR functionality: http://www.brother-usa.com/Scanners/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=ADS2000#.UFzfdxiz7x4 That being said, most people I encounter prefer to purchase a scanner and then purchase a separate OCR program to support the conversion process. In part, the OCR application that comes bundled with scanners is a bit limited and may not offer the best recognition capabilities. Adobe Acrobat Professional does have some OCR functionality built into the application. That may be an option as well, although I have sometimes had issues with the recognition accuracy depending on the PDF. Does your friend have access to the Internet? If so, one option may be to obtain a scanner and then submit documents to an online OCR system to obtain a text-based PDF. One service is called Sensus Access (http://sensusaccess.com) and the results are returned to your e-mail inbox (I know the OCR engine is the Abbyy Recognition Server - very high quality). At this time, the desktop ZoomText application does not have a built in OCR engine for PDF documents. Take care, Sean -- Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae From info at karlencommunications.com Sat Sep 22 06:12:38 2012 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Scan to Readable PDF Question In-Reply-To: <505CE627.1020900@stanford.edu> References: <505CE627.1020900@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <003e01cd98c3$f0da3790$d28ea6b0$@karlencommunications.com> I have a CanoScan Lide which is about 8 years old and still functioning but I found the OCR software a bit lacking as it is a lite version. ABBYY makes PDF Transform which lets you open a PDF in the application, perform the OCR and then send it to Word. I've found it a good alternative to higher priced solutions. The UI itself is not accessible but they do have keyboard commands to perform the functions. The cost is $78 USD I believe. So it is a possible solution to be added to the list. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: September-21-12 6:12 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Scan to Readable PDF Question > He has asked me about scanners that scan text directly into > readable PDFs. Does anybody know if this exists? Does Zoom > Text have OCR built into its code? Have you looked at any of the Canon Canoscan LiDE scanners? Based on the documentation, I believe you can "scan to PDF" which will do some OCR during the processing (the OCR happens on the user's computer). See: http://www.amazon.com/Canon-CanoScan-LiDE210-Scanner-4508B002/dp/B003VQR1TS Brother also makes a desktop model that offers OCR functionality: http://www.brother-usa.com/Scanners/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=ADS2000#.UFzf dxiz7x4 That being said, most people I encounter prefer to purchase a scanner and then purchase a separate OCR program to support the conversion process. In part, the OCR application that comes bundled with scanners is a bit limited and may not offer the best recognition capabilities. Adobe Acrobat Professional does have some OCR functionality built into the application. That may be an option as well, although I have sometimes had issues with the recognition accuracy depending on the PDF. Does your friend have access to the Internet? If so, one option may be to obtain a scanner and then submit documents to an online OCR system to obtain a text-based PDF. One service is called Sensus Access (http://sensusaccess.com) and the results are returned to your e-mail inbox (I know the OCR engine is the Abbyy Recognition Server - very high quality). At this time, the desktop ZoomText application does not have a built in OCR engine for PDF documents. Take care, Sean -- Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From JElmer at vcccd.edu Sat Sep 22 11:02:17 2012 From: JElmer at vcccd.edu (John Elmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Scan to Readable PDF Question In-Reply-To: <003e01cd98c3$f0da3790$d28ea6b0$@karlencommunications.com> References: <505CE627.1020900@stanford.edu> <003e01cd98c3$f0da3790$d28ea6b0$@karlencommunications.com> Message-ID: Remember. There are educational prices available on all, or most, of this stuff. -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:13 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] Scan to Readable PDF Question I have a CanoScan Lide which is about 8 years old and still functioning but I found the OCR software a bit lacking as it is a lite version. ABBYY makes PDF Transform which lets you open a PDF in the application, perform the OCR and then send it to Word. I've found it a good alternative to higher priced solutions. The UI itself is not accessible but they do have keyboard commands to perform the functions. The cost is $78 USD I believe. So it is a possible solution to be added to the list. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: September-21-12 6:12 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Scan to Readable PDF Question > He has asked me about scanners that scan text directly into > readable PDFs. Does anybody know if this exists? Does Zoom > Text have OCR built into its code? Have you looked at any of the Canon Canoscan LiDE scanners? Based on the documentation, I believe you can "scan to PDF" which will do some OCR during the processing (the OCR happens on the user's computer). See: http://www.amazon.com/Canon-CanoScan-LiDE210-Scanner-4508B002/dp/B003VQR1TS Brother also makes a desktop model that offers OCR functionality: http://www.brother-usa.com/Scanners/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=ADS2000#.UFzf dxiz7x4 That being said, most people I encounter prefer to purchase a scanner and then purchase a separate OCR program to support the conversion process. In part, the OCR application that comes bundled with scanners is a bit limited and may not offer the best recognition capabilities. Adobe Acrobat Professional does have some OCR functionality built into the application. That may be an option as well, although I have sometimes had issues with the recognition accuracy depending on the PDF. Does your friend have access to the Internet? If so, one option may be to obtain a scanner and then submit documents to an online OCR system to obtain a text-based PDF. One service is called Sensus Access (http://sensusaccess.com) and the results are returned to your e-mail inbox (I know the OCR engine is the Abbyy Recognition Server - very high quality). At this time, the desktop ZoomText application does not have a built in OCR engine for PDF documents. Take care, Sean -- Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From svmistric at waketech.edu Mon Sep 24 07:04:46 2012 From: svmistric at waketech.edu (Susanne V Mistric) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible Biology 111 Microscope Lab solutions Message-ID: <89D461B935267144A943A0BB2A5A2181011D9CC0@MBX-06.waketech.edu> We are looking for information on available accessible Biology 111 Microscope Lab and Cell study lab resources for a blind student. A student is having trouble grasping concepts with the braille/tactile resources that generally work very well. We are hoping someone might be able to recommend creative alternative solutions that already exist for this particular "just in time" situation. Thank you in advance! Accessibly Yours, Susanne Susanne Van Dorpe Mistric Accessibility Specialist/Trainer Wake Technical Community College Main Campus LE 37A 9101 Fayetteville Road Raleigh, NC 27603 svmistric@waketech.edu (919)866-5631 Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official (NCGS. ch. 132). Student educational records are subject to FERPA. Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official (NCGS. ch. 132). 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Experience with JNI and Windows system programming desirable Ron **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Mon Sep 24 13:46:14 2012 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Meeting at AHG Message-ID: <011e01cd9a95$a34efdc0$e9ecf940$@ahead.org> Good afternoon everyone, we are once again getting close to our Annual Business Meeting at the AHG conference in November. The first order of business is that once again we need to hold our elections and the open positions this time around are for President and Secretary. Please send me your nominations off line and I will start the process moving forward. Secondly I need your agenda items for our meeting. Once again send them off-line to me directly. Thanks much, Ron Stewart, Prez ATHEN ************************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabilities Chair, Technology Standing Committee Lead Chair, AHEAD Standing Committees 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org When you are having a reallly tough day, take a time out and think about what you have contributed to the lives of those that you have worked with. Many times it is just a baby step forward, but even that is progress! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU Mon Sep 24 13:46:40 2012 From: Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU (Susan Kelmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... Message-ID: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E5@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Years ago, there was this amazing software called Jawbone that allowed Dragon Naturally Speaking and Jaws to work together. I have a blind student with an injury to her hand, and she is having a difficult time typing with only one hand. We would like her to be able to use Dragon, but there is just no way for me to get them to interface together so she can even get through the training. Any suggestions? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Mon Sep 24 13:52:09 2012 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Blind user needs to use Dragon... In-Reply-To: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E5@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E5@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <5F4BCCFEE529324F96A13202E9C2031839A5A8585F@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> You need J-Say. It replaced JAW Bone. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:47 PM To: dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... Years ago, there was this amazing software called Jawbone that allowed Dragon Naturally Speaking and Jaws to work together. I have a blind student with an injury to her hand, and she is having a difficult time typing with only one hand. We would like her to be able to use Dragon, but there is just no way for me to get them to interface together so she can even get through the training. Any suggestions? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at cox.net Mon Sep 24 13:54:36 2012 From: foreigntype at cox.net (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... In-Reply-To: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E5@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E5@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <006001cd9a96$cf3b6300$6db22900$@cox.net> Susan et al ATHENites, Isn't the website for JawBone still active? I found this link. Have you checked there yet? http://www.synapseadaptive.com/henter2/Jawbone/jawbone_software.htm Wink PS - Please note that my email address has changed. For those of you on the listserv who wish to contact me off-list, here is my contact info: Wink Harner foreigntype@cox.net If you need phone & text messaging information, please send me an email request. From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:47 PM To: dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... Years ago, there was this amazing software called Jawbone that allowed Dragon Naturally Speaking and Jaws to work together. I have a blind student with an injury to her hand, and she is having a difficult time typing with only one hand. We would like her to be able to use Dragon, but there is just no way for me to get them to interface together so she can even get through the training. Any suggestions? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU Mon Sep 24 13:54:58 2012 From: Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU (Susan Kelmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Blind user needs to use Dragon... In-Reply-To: <5F4BCCFEE529324F96A13202E9C2031839A5A8585F@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E5@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <5F4BCCFEE529324F96A13202E9C2031839A5A8585F@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E9@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Thanks, Robert. Wow, is it pricey. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 2:52 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] RE: Blind user needs to use Dragon... You need J-Say. It replaced JAW Bone. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:47 PM To: dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... Years ago, there was this amazing software called Jawbone that allowed Dragon Naturally Speaking and Jaws to work together. I have a blind student with an injury to her hand, and she is having a difficult time typing with only one hand. We would like her to be able to use Dragon, but there is just no way for me to get them to interface together so she can even get through the training. Any suggestions? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maryz at MIT.EDU Mon Sep 24 13:55:35 2012 From: maryz at MIT.EDU (Mary J Ziegler) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon NaturallySpeaking 12 and Adobe Flash Player 11 Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, I am working with a couple of faculty that use Dragon NaturallySpeaking 11.5. Ever since Adobe upgraded Flash to 11, Dragon crashes with that version of Flash installed. They have downgraded Flash, but that very downgrade is an issue for them with other work they need to perform. Have any of you upgraded to Dragon Natspeak 12 yet and are able to comment on its compatibility with Adobe Flash Player 11? I see on the Nuance site that Adobe Flash installs with Natspeak 12, but there's no mention of the version of Flash it is installing. I prefer not to recommend an upgrade of Dragon without knowing it will help with this issue. Thanks, Mary ____________ Mary J. Ziegler IT Manager, Accessibility and Usability MIT Information Services and Technology (IS&T) ATIC Room 7-143 617.258.9328 maryz@mit.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhayman at u.washington.edu Mon Sep 24 14:06:43 2012 From: dhayman at u.washington.edu (Doug Hayman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Blind user needs to use Dragon... In-Reply-To: <5F4BCCFEE529324F96A13202E9C2031839A5A8585F@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E5@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <5F4BCCFEE529324F96A13202E9C2031839A5A8585F@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: http://www.ngtvoice.com/products/software/astec/j-say/ Doug Hayman Technology Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit On Mon, 24 Sep 2012, Robert Beach wrote: > You need J-Say. It replaced JAW Bone. > > > > Robert Lee Beach > Assistive Technology Specialist > Kansas City Kansas Community College > 7250 State Avenue > Kansas City, KS 66112 > 913-288-7671 > rbeach@kckcc.edu > > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:47 PM > To: dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) > Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... > > Years ago, there was this amazing software called Jawbone that allowed Dragon Naturally Speaking and Jaws to work together. I have a blind student with an injury to her hand, and she is having a difficult time typing with only one hand. We would like her to be able to use Dragon, but there is just no way for me to get them to interface together so she can even get through the training. > > Any suggestions? > > Susan Kelmer > Alternate Format Coordinator > Disability Services > University of Colorado > 303-735-4836 > > From Keith.Bundy at dsu.edu Mon Sep 24 14:25:47 2012 From: Keith.Bundy at dsu.edu (Bundy, Keith) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Blind user needs to use Dragon... In-Reply-To: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E9@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E5@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <5F4BCCFEE529324F96A13202E9C2031839A5A8585F@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E9@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: Unfortunately, this is true. As a blind user who needs to use dictation on the job, I am wondering why someone hasn't worked to make JAWS and Dragon work together smoothly without the additional cost. I do know that System Access works well with Microsoft's speech to text feature in Windows 7. However, I have not tried it with Dragon. Keith Bundy, MS Dakota State University Phone: 605-256-5121 Email: keith.bundy@dsu.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] RE: Blind user needs to use Dragon... Thanks, Robert. Wow, is it pricey. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 2:52 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] RE: Blind user needs to use Dragon... You need J-Say. It replaced JAW Bone. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:47 PM To: dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... Years ago, there was this amazing software called Jawbone that allowed Dragon Naturally Speaking and Jaws to work together. I have a blind student with an injury to her hand, and she is having a difficult time typing with only one hand. We would like her to be able to use Dragon, but there is just no way for me to get them to interface together so she can even get through the training. Any suggestions? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at cox.net Mon Sep 24 14:28:19 2012 From: foreigntype at cox.net (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... In-Reply-To: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E5@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E5@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <008f01cd9a9b$8462faa0$8d28efe0$@cox.net> My Apologies to all. My information was out of date about JawBone. Thanks to all who contributed J-Say as the correct resource for Susan! Wink Wink Harner Mesa Community College Mesa AZ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:47 PM To: dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... Years ago, there was this amazing software called Jawbone that allowed Dragon Naturally Speaking and Jaws to work together. I have a blind student with an injury to her hand, and she is having a difficult time typing with only one hand. We would like her to be able to use Dragon, but there is just no way for me to get them to interface together so she can even get through the training. Any suggestions? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Mon Sep 24 14:33:06 2012 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... In-Reply-To: <008f01cd9a9b$8462faa0$8d28efe0$@cox.net> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E5@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <008f01cd9a9b$8462faa0$8d28efe0$@cox.net> Message-ID: JSay works great and is worth the price. There are a couple of issues with it though. The JAWS activation needs to be on the computer that JSay is installed on. In environments where network licenses are used for JAWS this can be problematic. To do the installation some of the licenses from the network install would need to be setup as single installs. JSay is usually a little behind on getting it to work with the latest version of JAWS. When 14 comes out the student will be stuck on 13 for a while. Not a big problem. It is really easy for a good JAWS user to learn the commands for JSay. The commands are a little different from the commands you are used to with Dragon. So if you are teaching the student how to use it spend a little time on reading the documentation. The documentation is very thorough and easy to understand. Back in the Spring I set it up with Dragon Legal for a law student that is blind and has bad arthritis and the student loves it. Jeff On 9/24/12, Wink Harner wrote: > My Apologies to all. My information was out of date about JawBone. Thanks > to > all who contributed J-Say as the correct resource for Susan! > > > > Wink > > > > Wink Harner > > Mesa Community College > > Mesa AZ > > > > > > > > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan > Kelmer > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:47 PM > To: dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu; Access Technology Higher Education > Network > (athen-list@u.washington.edu) > Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... > > > > Years ago, there was this amazing software called Jawbone that allowed > Dragon Naturally Speaking and Jaws to work together. I have a blind > student > with an injury to her hand, and she is having a difficult time typing with > only one hand. We would like her to be able to use Dragon, but there is > just no way for me to get them to interface together so she can even get > through the training. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Susan Kelmer > > Alternate Format Coordinator > > Disability Services > > University of Colorado > > 303-735-4836 > > > > From edward at ngtvoice.com Mon Sep 24 15:34:24 2012 From: edward at ngtvoice.com (Ed. Rosenthal) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... In-Reply-To: References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E5@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <008f01cd9a9b$8462faa0$8d28efe0$@cox.net> Message-ID: <007801cd9aa4$c2814c20$4783e460$@ngtvoice.com> As one of the principals involved in developing/distributing JawBone back in the late 90's and early 2000s, and now as Master Distributor for JSay from Astec Ltd. (UK) in North America I wanted to jump in and point you to http://ngtvoice.com/products/software/astec/j-say/ which provides additional information. Let me know should there be questions...ed. Yours sincerely, Edward S. Rosenthal President and CEO Next Generation Technologies, Inc. (NGT, Inc.) 20006 Cedar Valley Rd. #101 Lynnwood, Wa. 98036 425-744-1100 ext.15 Fax: 425-778-5547 EM: edward@ngtvoice.com URL: http://www.ngtvoice.com Skype: ed.rosenthal7 -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 2:33 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... JSay works great and is worth the price. There are a couple of issues with it though. The JAWS activation needs to be on the computer that JSay is installed on. In environments where network licenses are used for JAWS this can be problematic. To do the installation some of the licenses from the network install would need to be setup as single installs. JSay is usually a little behind on getting it to work with the latest version of JAWS. When 14 comes out the student will be stuck on 13 for a while. Not a big problem. It is really easy for a good JAWS user to learn the commands for JSay. The commands are a little different from the commands you are used to with Dragon. So if you are teaching the student how to use it spend a little time on reading the documentation. The documentation is very thorough and easy to understand. Back in the Spring I set it up with Dragon Legal for a law student that is blind and has bad arthritis and the student loves it. Jeff On 9/24/12, Wink Harner wrote: > My Apologies to all. My information was out of date about JawBone. > Thanks to all who contributed J-Say as the correct resource for Susan! > > > > Wink > > > > Wink Harner > > Mesa Community College > > Mesa AZ > > > > > > > > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of > Susan Kelmer > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:47 PM > To: dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu; Access Technology Higher Education > Network > (athen-list@u.washington.edu) > Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... > > > > Years ago, there was this amazing software called Jawbone that allowed > Dragon Naturally Speaking and Jaws to work together. I have a blind > student with an injury to her hand, and she is having a difficult time > typing with only one hand. We would like her to be able to use > Dragon, but there is just no way for me to get them to interface > together so she can even get through the training. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Susan Kelmer > > Alternate Format Coordinator > > Disability Services > > University of Colorado > > 303-735-4836 > > > > _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From jbailey at uoregon.edu Mon Sep 24 16:14:01 2012 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] U of Montana Complaint and a Question Message-ID: I assume most members have heard of the complaint against the U of Montana see: http://tinyurl.com/9kwswpj My question: one item is that the chat features of Moodle are not accessible. Are the chat features of any LMS accessible? And if they are not, how do we avoid this sort of complaint? Thanks. -- Best regards, James -- James Bailey M.S. Adaptive Tech Coordinator University of Oregon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg_kraus at ncsu.edu Tue Sep 25 06:01:08 2012 From: greg_kraus at ncsu.edu (Greg Kraus) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] U of Montana Complaint and a Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In regards to Moodle, I can tell you that the Moodle developers are actively engaged in addressing the accessibility issues raised in my report from last year. http://accessibility.oit.ncsu.edu/reports/moodle-2-1/ I can also tell you they are making significant progress on these problems. The developers are currently in one of their development sprints where they make a concentrated effort to address a number of issues. One of the major issues of this sprint is accessibility. I expect many of these issues to be resolved by 2.4, and some of the fixes may be back ported to previous versions of Moodle. In regards to the specific issues raised in the complaint - chat and discussion boards - I am currently working with Moodle on some redesigns for their chat tool. The discussion forums are also something we are looking at. Greg -- Greg Kraus University IT Accessibility Coordinator NC State University 919.513.4087 greg_kraus@ncsu.edu On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 7:14 PM, James Bailey wrote: > I assume most members have heard of the complaint against the U of Montana > see: http://tinyurl.com/9kwswpj > > > > My question: one item is that the chat features of Moodle are not > accessible. Are the chat features of any LMS accessible? And if they are > not, how do we avoid this sort of complaint? > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > > > James > > > > -- > > > > James Bailey M.S. > > Adaptive Tech Coordinator > > University of Oregon > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Tue Sep 25 06:14:36 2012 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Blind user needs to use Dragon... In-Reply-To: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E9@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E5@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <5F4BCCFEE529324F96A13202E9C2031839A5A8585F@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E9@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <5F4BCCFEE529324F96A13202E9C2031839A5A858A8@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Yes, and very persnickety. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] RE: Blind user needs to use Dragon... Thanks, Robert. Wow, is it pricey. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 2:52 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] RE: Blind user needs to use Dragon... You need J-Say. It replaced JAW Bone. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:47 PM To: dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... Years ago, there was this amazing software called Jawbone that allowed Dragon Naturally Speaking and Jaws to work together. I have a blind student with an injury to her hand, and she is having a difficult time typing with only one hand. We would like her to be able to use Dragon, but there is just no way for me to get them to interface together so she can even get through the training. Any suggestions? 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Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:55 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'; dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu Subject: RE: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... Susan et al ATHENites, Isn't the website for JawBone still active? I found this link. Have you checked there yet? http://www.synapseadaptive.com/henter2/Jawbone/jawbone_software.htm Wink PS - Please note that my email address has changed. For those of you on the listserv who wish to contact me off-list, here is my contact info: Wink Harner foreigntype@cox.net If you need phone & text messaging information, please send me an email request. From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:47 PM To: dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... Years ago, there was this amazing software called Jawbone that allowed Dragon Naturally Speaking and Jaws to work together. I have a blind student with an injury to her hand, and she is having a difficult time typing with only one hand. We would like her to be able to use Dragon, but there is just no way for me to get them to interface together so she can even get through the training. Any suggestions? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Tue Sep 25 06:50:09 2012 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] U of Montana Complaint and a Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <013201cd9b24$ad82f0a0$0888d1e0$@ahead.org> I am not aware of any accessible chats in the LMS systems. My recommendation has always been to use an alternative chat system that is accessible, and also discuss why chat is a bad idea for a number of types of disabilities. Same things with most of the other collaborative tools, such as the infamous white board. Ron Stewart From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 6:14 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] U of Montana Complaint and a Question I assume most members have heard of the complaint against the U of Montana see: http://tinyurl.com/9kwswpj My question: one item is that the chat features of Moodle are not accessible. Are the chat features of any LMS accessible? And if they are not, how do we avoid this sort of complaint? Thanks. -- Best regards, James -- James Bailey M.S. Adaptive Tech Coordinator University of Oregon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at cox.net Tue Sep 25 07:15:06 2012 From: foreigntype at cox.net (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] U of Montana Complaint and a Question In-Reply-To: <013201cd9b24$ad82f0a0$0888d1e0$@ahead.org> References: <013201cd9b24$ad82f0a0$0888d1e0$@ahead.org> Message-ID: <007901cd9b28$29edf470$7dc9dd50$@cox.net> Tagging on the end of Ron's post, I have not yet been successful using Dragon in any live chat in LMS systems. I found the only way to "participate" was after the fact by reading posts, making comments off-line and uploading to the LMS. Very awkward and certainly defeated the idea of "live chat." Wink Wink Harner Mesa Community College Mesa AZ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 6:50 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] U of Montana Complaint and a Question I am not aware of any accessible chats in the LMS systems. My recommendation has always been to use an alternative chat system that is accessible, and also discuss why chat is a bad idea for a number of types of disabilities. Same things with most of the other collaborative tools, such as the infamous white board. Ron Stewart From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 6:14 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] U of Montana Complaint and a Question I assume most members have heard of the complaint against the U of Montana see: http://tinyurl.com/9kwswpj My question: one item is that the chat features of Moodle are not accessible. Are the chat features of any LMS accessible? And if they are not, how do we avoid this sort of complaint? Thanks. -- Best regards, James -- James Bailey M.S. Adaptive Tech Coordinator University of Oregon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at cox.net Tue Sep 25 07:29:38 2012 From: foreigntype at cox.net (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... In-Reply-To: <1348566552.9695.YahooMailNeo@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3DFE3E5@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <006001cd9a96$cf3b6300$6db22900$@cox.net> <1348566552.9695.YahooMailNeo@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008e01cd9b2a$31af0da0$950d28e0$@cox.net> Hi all, It does take some extreme editing efforts, but it is not impossible to do this. First of all, Dragon offers the choice of recording what you "said" in audio format so you can listen to what was dictated (and I highly recommend deleting these files at the end of a transcription session as the audio files eat up massive amounts of space on your drive) and compare it to listening to what Dragon "heard" and typed. Even MSW would pick up the example of "Ike antelope wither" as a fragment of a sentence which would be a clue to do more editing. Becoming skilled at this is certainly not for the faint of heart, but then neither is college. My thoughts on a Tues. Hope these are helpful. Wink Wink Harner Mesa Community College Mesa AZ -----Original Message----- From: Disabled Student Services in Higher Education [mailto:DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of J. B-Vincent Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:49 AM To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... JawBone seems to be discontinued, but J-Say (considered to be a better product anyway) is still around: http://www.ngtvoice.com/ is the website of a U.S. distributor. However, keep in mind that even under the best conditions use of speech recognition by blind users will require extensive proofreading. Dragon only puts up correctly spelled words, but they may not be the words the user wants, and simple audio review may not reveal the differences between "I can't elope with her" and "Ike antelope wither." As an alternative, you might consider Lilly Walters' One Hand Typing manual, which is available on CD in both PDF and Word formats. The learning curve will still be high, but the advantage is that once learned, the student would be able to use any standard computer that has JAWS installed. Plus it's a much, much less expensive strategy.? --Jane Vincent, Assistive Technology Lead, University of Michigan ________________________________ From: Wink Harner To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... Susan et al ATHENites, Isn't the website for JawBone still active? I found this link. Have you checked there yet? http://www.synapseadaptive.com/henter2/Jawbone/jawbone_software.htm Wink PS - Please note that my email address has changed. For those of you on the listserv who wish to contact me off-list, here is my contact info: Wink Harner foreigntype@cox.net If you need phone & text messaging information, please send me an email request. From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:47 PM To: dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Blind user needs to use Dragon... Years ago, there was this amazing software called Jawbone that allowed Dragon Naturally Speaking and Jaws to work together.? I have a blind student with an injury to her hand, and she is having a difficult time typing with only one hand.? We would like her to be able to use Dragon, but there is just no way for me to get them to interface together so she can even get through the training. Any suggestions? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 This list is intended to serve as a forum for higher education professionals involved in the delivery of services to students with disabilities in higher education. Any commercial posts or posts that are deemed by the listowner to be inappropriate for the list will result in the poster being removed from the list. To sign off the list, send a message to * listserv@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu * with the message * Unsubscribe dsshe-L To search the archives, go to http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/archives/dsshe-l.html Questions? Contact Listowner Dan Ryan at dryan@buffalo.edu This list is intended to serve as a forum for higher education professionals involved in the delivery of services to students with disabilities in higher education. Any commercial posts or posts that are deemed by the listowner to be inappropriate for the list will result in the poster being removed from the list. To sign off the list, send a message to * listserv@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu * with the message * Unsubscribe dsshe-L To search the archives, go to http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/archives/dsshe-l.html Questions? Contact Listowner Dan Ryan at dryan@buffalo.edu From alipkin at brandeis.edu Tue Sep 25 09:17:40 2012 From: alipkin at brandeis.edu (Adam Lipkin) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] U of Montana Complaint and a Question In-Reply-To: <013201cd9b24$ad82f0a0$0888d1e0$@ahead.org> References: <013201cd9b24$ad82f0a0$0888d1e0$@ahead.org> Message-ID: Hi, Ron -- What alternative chat systems have worked best for you (and are you talking about an external module plugged into Moodle, or a standalone chat client like iChat)? I'd rather, like you, talk about why it's a bad idea, period, but knowing good alternatives would be nice, too. Best, Adam On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Ron Stewart wrote: > I am not aware of any accessible chats in the LMS systems. My > recommendation has always been to use an alternative chat system that is > accessible, and also discuss why chat is a bad idea for a number of types > of disabilities. Same things with most of the other collaborative tools, > such as the infamous white board.**** > > ** ** > > Ron Stewart**** > > ** ** > > *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: > athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *James Bailey > *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2012 6:14 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] U of Montana Complaint and a Question**** > > ** ** > > I assume most members have heard of the complaint against the U of Montana > see: http://tinyurl.com/9kwswpj**** > > ** ** > > My question: one item is that the chat features of Moodle are not > accessible. Are the chat features of any LMS accessible? And if they are > not, how do we avoid this sort of complaint?**** > > ** ** > > Thanks.**** > > ** ** > > -- **** > > Best regards,**** > > ** ** > > James**** > > ** ** > > --**** > > ** ** > > James Bailey M.S.**** > > Adaptive Tech Coordinator**** > > University of Oregon**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- Adam Lipkin Academic Applications Administrator alipkin@brandeis.edu 781-736-4795 Brandeis University Library and Technology Services Mailstop 017 Waltham, MA 02454 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Tue Sep 25 11:49:48 2012 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning a Pencast Message-ID: I just got a request to caption pencasts created by a chemestry professor. Has anyone come across a good informational resource to do this? I figured I would have to separate the audio and process it but was looking for something simpler and better. thanks Jeff Cleveland State From foreigntype at cox.net Tue Sep 25 12:01:08 2012 From: foreigntype at cox.net (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning a Pencast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000601cd9b50$1f2882d0$5d798870$@cox.net> Jeff, et al Pencast using Livescribe pens? Wink -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:50 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Captioning a Pencast I just got a request to caption pencasts created by a chemestry professor. Has anyone come across a good informational resource to do this? I figured I would have to separate the audio and process it but was looking for something simpler and better. thanks Jeff Cleveland State _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Tue Sep 25 13:44:22 2012 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning a Pencast In-Reply-To: <000601cd9b50$1f2882d0$5d798870$@cox.net> References: <000601cd9b50$1f2882d0$5d798870$@cox.net> Message-ID: yes Some of our professors started posting supplemental materials explaining how to do chem homework using the livescribe pens. Now I have a student that is deaf taking one of the classes requesting access to those materials. Jeff On 9/25/12, Wink Harner wrote: > Jeff, et al > > Pencast using Livescribe pens? > > Wink > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Jeffrey > Dell > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:50 AM > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: [Athen] Captioning a Pencast > > I just got a request to caption pencasts created by a chemestry > professor. Has anyone come across a good informational resource to do > this? > I figured I would have to separate the audio and process it but was > looking for something simpler and better. > thanks > Jeff > Cleveland State > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > From foreigntype at cox.net Tue Sep 25 15:01:06 2012 From: foreigntype at cox.net (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning a Pencast In-Reply-To: References: <000601cd9b50$1f2882d0$5d798870$@cox.net> Message-ID: <002801cd9b69$4328a160$c979e420$@cox.net> Check this out from a colleague of mine at MCC - here's the link for Tech4Math http://www.tech4mathed.com/blog/tag/pencasts/ Scroll down till you find the post for MAKING MATH ACCESSIBLE. Sue Glascoe tried using Dragon in the classroom for this. Now there are Bluetooth AND portable recording apps for iPhone & Android. The instructor would have to spend some time training dragon & then using his / her cell in the classroom to record the lecture. Math and science are similar in the math concepts used, and the vocabulary for chemistry can be imported as a vocabulary list into DNS. Might be worth a try if the instructor is willing. I have used LS Pens in the classroom for some time and I have doubts as to the quality of the audio recording being sufficient to provide a good track for an accurate transcription. According to LS, though, it is a fairly straightforward task to separate the audio from the pencast. I'll keep poking around and see what I can come up with. Wink -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:44 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Captioning a Pencast yes Some of our professors started posting supplemental materials explaining how to do chem homework using the livescribe pens. Now I have a student that is deaf taking one of the classes requesting access to those materials. Jeff On 9/25/12, Wink Harner wrote: > Jeff, et al > > Pencast using Livescribe pens? > > Wink > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of > Jeffrey Dell > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:50 AM > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: [Athen] Captioning a Pencast > > I just got a request to caption pencasts created by a chemestry > professor. Has anyone come across a good informational resource to do > this? > I figured I would have to separate the audio and process it but was > looking for something simpler and better. > thanks > Jeff > Cleveland State > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Wed Sep 26 05:46:15 2012 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Copyright and Fair Use. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F4BCCFEE529324F96A13202E9C2031839A5C606A5@orion.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Interesting. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu The Chronicle of Higher Education September 23, 2012 Let's Spread the Word About Fair Use By Zick Rubin Last month, as college students across the country prepared to head back to campuses, my fax machine coughed out my annual "Request for Permission" from the Copyright Clearance Center, the corporation that is one of the world's largest brokers of licenses to copy other people's work. As in past years, the center asked me how much I wanted to charge to permit Middle Earth College to include a copy of Chapter 5 of my book, Liking and Loving: An Invitation to Social Psychology, in a course pack for the 18 students enrolled in Professor McClain's Management 710 this fall. (I've changed the names of the college, the professor, and the course.) If past experience were a guide, I could name my price, out of which the Copyright Clearance Center would take its 15-percent commission. Given how oppressively high college tuitions have become these days, I doubted that the students would notice the extra three or four dollars that I could ask each of them to pony up for the right to have his or her own copy of Chapter 5. The form had blanks to check for "fee for page," "fee per copy," and "flat fee," but not for "no fee." I was delighted that Professor McClain wanted to use my chapter again, especially given the hefty permission fees I have charged in past years. It's true that Liking and Loving was published 39 years ago and has long been out of print. Some of the timely examples in Chapter 5-such as the public events of Vida Blue's rookie season for the Oakland Athletics, in 1971-are not quite so timely anymore. But I think it still holds up pretty well. Yes, I knew that licensing fees had driven up the price of some course packs to $100 or more, to the dismay of colleges and students. Once a great innovation, allowing professors to create their own reasonably priced books of readings for their courses, the course pack was in danger of foundering. High licensing costs were also stretching college-library budgets for the course pack's digital offspring, the electronic version placed on reserve for students enrolled in a course. On the other hand, we want American students to have the best possible educational resources, don't we? And since Liking and Loving was going to enter the public domain awfully soon-in 2068-I figured I had better make the most of my copyright while I still could. There was just one problem, and, as a copyright lawyer, I couldn't ignore it. Under current copyright law, Middle Earth College probably doesn't need my permission-or anyone else's-to include my chapter in the course pack. The university and its bookstore have a right to make copies of the chapter for enrolled students without even asking, under the copyright doctrine of fair use. If this was fuzzy before, it's clearer now, from the careful opinion issued in May by the federal judge Orinda Evans in the test case brought by publishers-and paid for in part by the Copyright Clearance Center itself-against Georgia State University. After a two-week trial in Atlanta, Judge Evans ruled that Georgia State had the right to make available to enrolled students up to one chapter of a 10-chapter book without permission or payment, as a matter of fair use. That's because the constitutionally prescribed purpose of copyright is not to enrich authors or publishers but rather to encourage the progress of knowledge. Under Judge Evans's opinion, in an instance like the Middle Earth request, three of the four determining factors for fair use come out in the "fair" direction: First, Professor McClain is assigning my chapter for nonprofit educational purposes, not for commercial gain; second, although some have said that Liking and Loving reads like a novel, it is a factual and-ahem!-scientific work; third, the portion that is being copied is only one chapter out of 10 and makes up only a small proportion of the book's pages. The only factor that tilts in the "unfair" direction is the fact that, thanks mainly to the work of the copyright center, there is a readily available licensing market for photocopying excerpts of my book. In 3-to-1 cases like this one, Judge Evans determined that Georgia State's copying was fair use and required no permission at all. Out of some 75 instances that the court considered, the judge found only five to be infringements-and each of them involved the use of two or more chapters of a book. Although the Georgia State case involved electronic course reserves, not photocopies, the same fair-use calculus applies. Copyright law is admittedly amorphous-in the first fair-use case, back in 1841, Justice Joseph Story called it "the metaphysics of the law"-and the publishers have filed an appeal. So it's possible that the law will change. But, in the meantime, Judge Evans's decision is the leading case on this issue, and the Copyright Clearance Center, having supported the test case against Georgia State, should respect the court's decision. At the least, it should inform copyright owners of the decision and give them another choice: a blank for "this looks like fair use to me." That's what I faxed back to the center this year, even though I had to write it in. I think Judge Evans got the law right, metaphysical or not. The doctrine of fair use is an integral part of the system of copyright authorized by the Constitution "to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts." Requiring cash-strapped colleges or their deep-in-loan students to pay for the privilege of having a copy of every assigned course reading, no matter how small, is more likely to stifle than to promote that progress. Professor McClain, if you're reading this: You can keep assigning-and copying-Chapter 5 for as long as you want. From now on you don't even have to ask. Zick Rubin, a former professor of social psychology at Harvard and Brandeis Universities, is a publishing and copyright lawyer in Newton, Mass. Ben Hayes, Director Faculty and Staff Development Kansas City Kansas Community College -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tft at uw.edu Wed Sep 26 06:41:08 2012 From: tft at uw.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS Braille Viewer Message-ID: Hi All, Is anyone aware of a tutorial on how sighted users can effectively use the JAWS Braille Viewer? I'm trying to get a deeper understanding of the content that's delivered to Braille users. Short of a tutorial, one feature I'm particularly puzzled about is the "Braille Keys" button. Clicking that button gives me a dialog from which I can "Select a Braille Key to Simulate" but once I've selected an option how do I trigger the simulation? (I don't have a Braille device installed) Thanks! Terrill -- Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Information Technology University of Washington tft@uw.edu 206-221-4168 From pratikp1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 26 06:47:59 2012 From: pratikp1 at gmail.com (Pratik Patel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS Braille Viewer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <-7972624031846712793@unknownmsgid> Hi, THe braille viewer is intended mostly for teachers in educational environments who are either trying to teach students braille or attempting to understand what braille output is taking place. JAWS' braille implementation is quite complex. It differs for different displays. For example, FS provides significantly more functionality for the displays it sells. Terry, can you provide a little more info on what you're trying to accomplish? I'll be able to help with some more details. Regards, Pratik Pratik Patel CEO< EZFire T: 718-928-5529 M: 718-249-7019 E: pratikp1@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Terrill Thompson wrote: > Hi All, > > Is anyone aware of a tutorial on how sighted users can effectively use > the JAWS Braille Viewer? I'm trying to get a deeper understanding of > the content that's delivered to Braille users. Short of a tutorial, > one feature I'm particularly puzzled about is the "Braille Keys" > button. Clicking that button gives me a dialog from which I can > "Select a Braille Key to Simulate" but once I've selected an option > how do I trigger the simulation? (I don't have a Braille device > installed) > > Thanks! > Terrill > > -- > Terrill Thompson > Technology Accessibility Specialist > DO-IT, Accessible Technology > UW Information Technology > University of Washington > tft@uw.edu > 206-221-4168 > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From tft at uw.edu Wed Sep 26 07:03:46 2012 From: tft at uw.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS Braille Viewer In-Reply-To: <-7972624031846712793@unknownmsgid> References: <-7972624031846712793@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Hi Patrick, We have a deaf/blind student enrolled in a couple of courses that make extensive use of online tools. I (and our Help Desk) are wanting to be better able to assess and/or simulate what that user is experiencing on their Braille device, in order to provide better support. Thanks! Terrill On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Pratik Patel wrote: > Hi, > > THe braille viewer is intended mostly for teachers in educational > environments who are either trying to teach students braille or > attempting to understand what braille output is taking place. JAWS' > braille implementation is quite complex. It differs for different > displays. For example, FS provides significantly more functionality > for the displays it sells. > > Terry, can you provide a little more info on what you're trying to > accomplish? I'll be able to help with some more details. > > Regards, > > Pratik > > > Pratik Patel > CEO< EZFire > T: 718-928-5529 > M: 718-249-7019 > E: pratikp1@gmail.com > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Terrill Thompson wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Is anyone aware of a tutorial on how sighted users can effectively use >> the JAWS Braille Viewer? I'm trying to get a deeper understanding of >> the content that's delivered to Braille users. Short of a tutorial, >> one feature I'm particularly puzzled about is the "Braille Keys" >> button. Clicking that button gives me a dialog from which I can >> "Select a Braille Key to Simulate" but once I've selected an option >> how do I trigger the simulation? (I don't have a Braille device >> installed) >> >> Thanks! >> Terrill >> >> -- >> Terrill Thompson >> Technology Accessibility Specialist >> DO-IT, Accessible Technology >> UW Information Technology >> University of Washington >> tft@uw.edu >> 206-221-4168 >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Information Technology University of Washington tft@uw.edu 206-221-4168 From blrichwine at gmail.com Thu Sep 27 08:55:19 2012 From: blrichwine at gmail.com (Brian Richwine) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] U of Montana Complaint and a Question In-Reply-To: References: <013201cd9b24$ad82f0a0$0888d1e0$@ahead.org> Message-ID: We've had screen-reader users successfully make it through walkthrough test scripts for the Chat tool in Sakai. It's a pretty simple tool. The walkthrough script tests if the user could see who else was in the chat room, the current chat room title, the list of other chat rooms, change rooms, find the last message, find the textbox to enter a message, and enter and send a message. -Brian On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Adam Lipkin wrote: > Hi, Ron -- > > What alternative chat systems have worked best for you (and are you > talking about an external module plugged into Moodle, or a standalone chat > client like iChat)? I'd rather, like you, talk about why it's a bad idea, > period, but knowing good alternatives would be nice, too. > > Best, > > Adam > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Ron Stewart wrote: > >> I am not aware of any accessible chats in the LMS systems. My >> recommendation has always been to use an alternative chat system that is >> accessible, and also discuss why chat is a bad idea for a number of types >> of disabilities. Same things with most of the other collaborative tools, >> such as the infamous white board.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Ron Stewart**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: >> athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *James Bailey >> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2012 6:14 PM >> *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu >> *Subject:* [Athen] U of Montana Complaint and a Question**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I assume most members have heard of the complaint against the U of >> Montana see: http://tinyurl.com/9kwswpj**** >> >> ** ** >> >> My question: one item is that the chat features of Moodle are not >> accessible. Are the chat features of any LMS accessible? And if they are >> not, how do we avoid this sort of complaint?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Thanks.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> -- **** >> >> Best regards,**** >> >> ** ** >> >> James**** >> >> ** ** >> >> --**** >> >> ** ** >> >> James Bailey M.S.**** >> >> Adaptive Tech Coordinator**** >> >> University of Oregon**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> > > > -- > Adam Lipkin > Academic Applications Administrator > alipkin@brandeis.edu > 781-736-4795 > Brandeis University Library and Technology Services > Mailstop 017 > Waltham, MA 02454 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Additionally, with the convergence of ePub and DAISY, I see Adobe focusing on ePub and Mobipocket as the primary e-book export options. I have not had the chance to play with InDesign 6 yet. The 5.5 upgrade did introduce some nice functionality (when it worked), so I am hoping version 6 brings additional functionality. Take care, Sean -- Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae From ron at ahead.org Thu Sep 27 11:29:11 2012 From: ron at ahead.org (ron@ahead.org) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:59 2018 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtBdGhlbl0gYWNjZXNzaWJpbGl0eSBvZiBJbkRlc2lnbiBmb3IgY3JlYXRpbmcgYW4gZWJvb2s=?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120927182911.31198.qmail@s465.sureserver.com> The best route to produce DAISY from InDesign is to produce it as a XHTML document which then can be brought into a compliant editor for editing and addition of alt text of the like. This functionality is fully supported in ID but therer are a couple of trick to getting a usable output. There are artifacts from InDesign that will have to be removed from the document that are related to clean export of the document structure. I have a reference doc I am happy to share off line. Though it was created for ID 5.5 and things have changed a little bit. The reason I perfer this method to a straight ePub export is that it provides a document that works with most AT, the majority of which do not support ePub3 currently Ron Stewart > -------Original Message------- > From: Howard Kramer > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] accessibility of InDesign for creating an ebook > Sent: Sep 27 '12 13:11 > > Hello All: > > > I have a project to create an ebook on Universal Design for Digital Media - > an offshoot of the online course I'm teaching. I saw a presentation on > InDesign at a recent conference on Academic Technology and from a visual > standpoint it looked like it had the capability to produce a really nice > product. I understand that it can produce books in an ePub and Kindle > (mobipocket) format. I haven't heard anything about DAISY. Does anyone > have any feedback on the accessibility of this design platform (InDesign > 6). Any recommendations for different tool? > > > Also, I welcome collaboration from anyone who'd like to contribute to > the book. Let me know if you're interested and I can give you more > detail. > > > Thanks in advance. > > > -Howard > > -- > > > Howard Kramer > CO-PI - UDUC > > _Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula > (UDUC)_ > > Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin > > 303-492-8672 > > cell: 720-351-8668 > -------------------- > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > [LINK: compose.php?to=athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu] > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > [LINK: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list] > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From ron at altformatsolutions.com Fri Sep 28 00:22:09 2012 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Changes in Latitude Message-ID: <006e01cd9d49$f93d25c0$ebb77140$@altformatsolutions.com> Morning all, For those of you who are interested I have left the HTCTU and taken a position as the accessibility lead at ACT, the assessment company. Here is my contact information at ACT: Ron Stewart Senior Consultant - Accessibility & Assistive Technology ACT Inc. E-Mail: ron.stewart@act.org Phone: (319) 337-1905 Fax: (319) 341-2415 Mobile (609) 213-2190 For non-ACT related issues please use the contact information you already have. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu Fri Sep 28 05:10:25 2012 From: jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu (Julie Balassa) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Changes in Latitude In-Reply-To: <006e01cd9d49$f93d25c0$ebb77140$@altformatsolutions.com> References: <006e01cd9d49$f93d25c0$ebb77140$@altformatsolutions.com> Message-ID: <12723F6C-CFBE-4A06-BC8D-52E1C3E292D6@valenciacollege.edu> Wow Ron, you sure move around! Congrats on the new position. Maybe we can spend some time at AHG. jkb On Sep 28, 2012, at 3:22 AM, Ron Stewart > wrote: Morning all, For those of you who are interested I have left the HTCTU and taken a position as the accessibility lead at ACT, the assessment company. Here is my contact information at ACT: Ron Stewart Senior Consultant - Accessibility & Assistive Technology ACT Inc. E-Mail: ron.stewart@act.org Phone: (319) 337-1905 Fax: (319) 341-2415 Mobile (609) 213-2190 For non-ACT related issues please use the contact information you already have. _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Fri Sep 28 05:25:42 2012 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Changes in Latitude In-Reply-To: <12723F6C-CFBE-4A06-BC8D-52E1C3E292D6@valenciacollege.edu> References: <006e01cd9d49$f93d25c0$ebb77140$@altformatsolutions.com> <12723F6C-CFBE-4A06-BC8D-52E1C3E292D6@valenciacollege.edu> Message-ID: <00ce01cd9d74$6104e3d0$230eab70$@ahead.org> Not intentionally, would have preferred to stay on the west coast closer to home. Sure I will be there all week. Ron From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Balassa Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 7:10 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Changes in Latitude Wow Ron, you sure move around! Congrats on the new position. Maybe we can spend some time at AHG. jkb On Sep 28, 2012, at 3:22 AM, Ron Stewart wrote: Morning all, For those of you who are interested I have left the HTCTU and taken a position as the accessibility lead at ACT, the assessment company. Here is my contact information at ACT: Ron Stewart Senior Consultant - Accessibility & Assistive Technology ACT Inc. E-Mail: ron.stewart@act.org Phone: (319) 337-1905 Fax: (319) 341-2415 Mobile (609) 213-2190 For non-ACT related issues please use the contact information you already have. _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU Fri Sep 28 11:18:18 2012 From: Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU (Susan Kelmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:30:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Changes in Latitude In-Reply-To: <006e01cd9d49$f93d25c0$ebb77140$@altformatsolutions.com> References: <006e01cd9d49$f93d25c0$ebb77140$@altformatsolutions.com> Message-ID: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A5380766E3EC8B1D@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Good luck, Ron! -Susan ________________________________________ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart [ron@altformatsolutions.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 1:22 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; aheadmembers@listserve.com Subject: [Athen] Changes in Latitude Morning all, For those of you who are interested I have left the HTCTU and taken a position as the accessibility lead at ACT, the assessment company. Here is my contact information at ACT: Ron Stewart Senior Consultant - Accessibility & Assistive Technology ACT Inc. E-Mail: ron.stewart@act.org Phone: (319) 337-1905 Fax: (319) 341-2415 Mobile (609) 213-2190 For non-ACT related issues please use the contact information you already have.