From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Fri Feb 1 05:12:30 2013 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] MathType/MathPlayer question In-Reply-To: <510B11C0.5040100@stanford.edu> References: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A758EF4@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu>, <510B11C0.5040100@stanford.edu> Message-ID: Great question, Sean. I agree that the message sounded strange, but I have to do tech support long distance with many of my students. A version problem could be the culprit - I will confirm that with the student today. Teresa On Jan 31, 2013, at 5:53 PM, "Sean J Keegan" wrote: > > When he launches IE8, he gets a Microsoft message that he needs to > > upgrade or switch to Firefox or Chrome ? it apparently won?t let > > him move forward and use the browser even to read our documents off-line. > > Hi Teresa, > > I am a bit surprised at the message as I cannot remember Microsoft ever recommending a switch to FF or Chrome (not saying it didn't happen - it's just a bit surprising). I know Google dropped support for IE 8 last year thus prompting many tech blogs to recommend the switch to Firefox or Chrome, but it sounds like this is some kind of message issued by the OS or IE that he needs to switch to a newer browser. > > What version of MathPlayer is he using? IE 8 requires that you use MathPlayer 2.2, whereas MathPlayer 3.0 requires IE 9 or above. Could there be a compatibility issue with the version of MathPlayer and IE that is throwing the error message? > > Take care, > Sean > -- > Sean Keegan > Associate Director, Assistive Technology > Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University > http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From kerscher at montana.com Sat Feb 2 08:42:17 2013 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Production of EPUB 3 Content? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20130131145417.01f5e878@wheresmymailserver.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20130131145417.01f5e878@wheresmymailserver.com> Message-ID: <005501ce0164$45fda050$d1f8e0f0$@montana.com> Hello, Reproducing a post from the DAISY Consortium: Dear Members, Friends and Supporters: Tobi 2.0 is a production tool for DAISY 3 and EPUB 3 talking books, with a dedicated editor for image descriptions, built-in content validators, MathML support, and much more! The DAISY Consortium is pleased to release Tobi v2.0, a free and open source authoring tool designed to help users worldwide achieve excellence in accessible publishing. This major update includes support for EPUB 3 "Media Overlays", which is the mainstream non-proprietary standard for "read aloud" publications. Just like DAISY, EPUB 3 enables the synchronization of human narration with text, but it is based on modern HTML5 web standards. Tobi provides support for the DAISY Pipeline 2 content converters, to help users migrate their existing material (DTBook XML, DAISY 3 and DAISY 2.02) to EPUB 3. New Tobi projects can also be created using regular EPUB 3 files (.epub extension), which can be text-only, or with full or partial audio. Other significant improvements have been introduced since last major release, based on feedback received from the DAISY community. This includes rendering of mathematical equations (with full support for the MathML-in-DAISY profile). Tobi now also comes with integrated EPUB 3 and DAISY 3 validators, which can be executed at import and export time. Support for MP4-AAC audio has been added to facilitate the import of existing EPUB 3 Media Overlays. The audio recording modes have been greatly improved, now featuring control of the synchronisation granularity based on pre-defined preferences. The ability to import and quickly synchronize existing (pre-recorded) audio makes it possible to combine various types of workflows. In addition, Tobi allows users to edit audio snippets externally, which means that other audio tools can be used along with Tobi. The performance of the waveform display has been increased substantially. For peace of mind, the application now automatically creates backups of the project file. To know more about all the new features and bug fixes, please visit: http://www.daisy.org/tobi. Tobi team would like to thank all contributors and supporters for their valuable feedback in 2012. Best George -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Sutton [mailto:jsuttondc@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:59 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Production of EPUB 3 Content? Greetings: For those interested in Epub 3, here's a book by Matt Garrish that you might find helpful: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920025283.do In addition, it might be helpful if those interested contacted the IDPF directly. Since it's the standards-making body, and the organization has generally embraced accessibility, I'd hope they'd have a sense of the status of tools and such. Contacting the IDPF could surely raise the visibility among its members for the kinds of authoring and reading tools that the higher education community needs. Start at: www.idpf.org Best, Jennifer At 02:36 PM 1/31/2013, you wrote: >Hi Al, > >This is an excellent question. I have no great answer. There is no >EPUB3 movement underway at OSU, either within disability services or >within eLearning. It will likely start in eLearning before it starts >in our DS office. > >InDesign will produce EPUB3, but from all reports I've heard, it's >pretty broken. The sigil editor has EPUB 3 production on the radar >but it's not implemented, not even in beta, from what I can tell. >BlueGriffon EPUB Edition will produce EPUB3. You can try it for >free. It's about $265 to purchase (advertised prices are in Euros). >It could be the best bet for book production as EPUB3, at this >point. (Perhaps an InDesign to broken EPUB to BlueGriffon to fix >that borked EPUB?) If only iBooks Author created real rather than >bastardized EPUB3.... > >And Al what are you recommending for reading EPUB 3? iBooks handles >a lot of the spec, but not all. There's Azardi, but it lacks screen >reader accessibility. And there's Adobe Digital Editions. ADE has >pretty decent initial EPUB3 support, but it doesn't render MathML or >the canvas element, not sure about SVG, but I know it doesn't handle >video or audio tags. The advantage of ADE is that it has good screen >reader support. Nook Study will open basic EPUB3 books and it has >the advantage of having built in reading+text-highlighting, but it >will crash if complex EPUB3 is opened in it. Then there's the >promising Readium project. It has very good EPUB3 support, but its >designed as a test bed platform not as a "production" reader and >it's not working well with any screen reader at this point, >including ChromeVox. It will support most MathML (through MathJax) >and supports video and audio (because it's running in Chrome, after >all). We need one killer EPUB3 player on Windows and Mac but it's >just not there yet. I'm hoping Adobe comes to the rescue. ADE has >been getting better. We were working the B&N on Nook Study >accessibility for a short time but that effort fell through. > >I'd love to hear what you guys are doing. > >Best, > > >ken >-- >Ken Petri >Program Director, OSU Web Accessibility Center >102D Pomerene Hall, 1760 Neil Avenue, Columbus, Ohio 43210 >Office: 614.292.1760 | Mobile: 614.218.1499 | Fax: 614.292.4190 >http://wac.osu.edu | >petri.1@osu.edu > > >On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Al Puzzuoli ><alpuzz@msu.edu> wrote: > >Just curious as to whether anyone is currently producing E-Text >content in EPUB 3, or whether you have begun looking at how to do so >in future? We are currently exploring the possibility of >transitioning our base format to EPUB 3 but at this point, we're >not even sure which software out there would provide the best solution. > >Any comments would be very welcome, > >Thanks, > > > > > >Al Puzzuoli > >Michigan State University > >Information >Technologist >http://www.rcpd.msu.edu > >Resource Center for Persons with >Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 Bessey Hall East >Lansing, MI 48824-1033 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >athen-list mailing list >athen-list@mailman1.u.washingt on.edu >http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > >_______________________________________________ >athen-list mailing list >athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu >http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From riesmeyerp at purduecal.edu Mon Feb 4 08:09:34 2013 From: riesmeyerp at purduecal.edu (Pamela Riesmeyer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Higher Ed Plans of Study Message-ID: Hello, I'm looking for samples / examples of accessible plans of study for college degrees and coming up empty. These documents are the ones used to identify what courses a student needs to take or has taken to complete the requirements for a degree. They seem to go under different names depending on the university.. plans of study, road maps, carousels, "bingo" sheets... The information they contain is complicated and messy and must allow for many options, depending on the particular school and requirements. General education requirements, minors, majors, transfer credits, etc. Some are designed to be printed and filled out by hand as the student goes along. Others are interactive. Purdue Calumet is trying to standardize a template for all academic departments, which would be great. But how to make these less complicated and easier to navigate via AT as well as being visually acceptable to the administration. To give an example of one of the sheets in use now - and again, these are being revised and standardized - here is a "plan of study" PDF for an Electrical and Computing Engineering degree. It started life as an Excel spreadsheet and I apologize - it is not tagged well as yet. I am just hoping that someone has had some success with this and, if so, I would love to hear about it! Thanks for any information anyone can provide. Pam Riesmeyer -- Pamela Riesmeyer Web Accessibility Coordinator Purdue University Calumet 219-989-2731/219-730-2751 SKYPE: pamela.riesmeyer Email: riesmeyerp@purduecal.edu Web Site: http://webs.purduecal.edu/webaccessibility -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Lissner.2 at osu.edu Mon Feb 4 09:29:57 2013 From: Lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, Scott) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Higher Ed Plans of Study In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You might try looking at degree audit systems. Our students can use them to look at their progress and aid in course selection. From: Pamela Riesmeyer [mailto:riesmeyerp@purduecal.edu] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:09 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Higher Ed Plans of Study Hello, I'm looking for samples / examples of accessible plans of study for college degrees and coming up empty. These documents are the ones used to identify what courses a student needs to take or has taken to complete the requirements for a degree. They seem to go under different names depending on the university.. plans of study, road maps, carousels, "bingo" sheets... The information they contain is complicated and messy and must allow for many options, depending on the particular school and requirements. General education requirements, minors, majors, transfer credits, etc. Some are designed to be printed and filled out by hand as the student goes along. Others are interactive. Purdue Calumet is trying to standardize a template for all academic departments, which would be great. But how to make these less complicated and easier to navigate via AT as well as being visually acceptable to the administration. To give an example of one of the sheets in use now - and again, these are being revised and standardized - here is a "plan of study" PDF for an Electrical and Computing Engineering degree . It started life as an Excel spreadsheet and I apologize - it is not tagged well as yet. I am just hoping that someone has had some success with this and, if so, I would love to hear about it! Thanks for any information anyone can provide. Pam Riesmeyer -- Pamela Riesmeyer Web Accessibility Coordinator Purdue University Calumet 219-989-2731/219-730-2751 SKYPE: pamela.riesmeyer Email: riesmeyerp@purduecal.edu Web Site: http://webs.purduecal.edu/webaccessibility -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blrichwine at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 10:22:28 2013 From: blrichwine at gmail.com (Brian Richwine) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Production of EPUB 3 Content? In-Reply-To: <005501ce0164$45fda050$d1f8e0f0$@montana.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20130131145417.01f5e878@wheresmymailserver.com> <005501ce0164$45fda050$d1f8e0f0$@montana.com> Message-ID: Hi, We have a student who only uses his iOS devices to access text and wanted his materials to work with iBooks and VoiceOver. Our normal work flow for preparing texts for our low-vision students is to give them a well structured accessible word version of the file. Since we already had a work flow that produced word documents with robust heading structure, text descriptions, linearized tables, etc. we decided to try different processes to convert the word documents into an EPUB document. It is not EPUB 3, however we found the Aspose Word EXPRESS converter the best at converting word documents into EPUBs that are usable with VoiceOver in iBooks. The best thing, is that it is super easy for my editing staff to use... and it is free. I'd love to know if others are converting word documents into EPUB for iOS users, what you are using, and how it is going. -Brian p.s. The Word EXPRESS convertor is free, and can be found here: http://www.aspose.com/free-utilities-and-components.aspx On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 11:42 AM, George Kerscher wrote: > Hello, > > Reproducing a post from the DAISY Consortium: > Dear Members, Friends and Supporters: > > Tobi 2.0 is a production tool for DAISY 3 and EPUB 3 talking books, with a > dedicated editor for image descriptions, built-in content validators, > MathML > support, and much more! > > The DAISY Consortium is pleased to release Tobi v2.0, a free and open > source > authoring tool designed to help users worldwide achieve excellence in > accessible publishing. > > This major update includes support for EPUB 3 "Media Overlays", which is > the > mainstream non-proprietary standard for "read aloud" publications. > Just like DAISY, EPUB 3 enables the synchronization of human narration with > text, but it is based on modern HTML5 web standards. > Tobi provides support for the DAISY Pipeline 2 content converters, to help > users migrate their existing material > (DTBook XML, DAISY 3 and DAISY 2.02) to EPUB 3. New Tobi projects can also > be created using regular EPUB 3 files (.epub extension), > which can be text-only, or with full or partial audio. > > Other significant improvements have been introduced since last major > release, based on feedback received from the DAISY community. > This includes rendering of mathematical equations (with full support for > the > MathML-in-DAISY profile). Tobi now also comes with integrated EPUB 3 and > DAISY 3 validators, > which can be executed at import and export time. Support for MP4-AAC audio > has been added to facilitate the import of existing EPUB 3 Media Overlays. > The audio recording modes have been greatly improved, now featuring control > of the synchronisation granularity based on pre-defined preferences. The > ability to import and quickly synchronize > existing (pre-recorded) audio makes it possible to combine various types of > workflows. In addition, Tobi allows users to edit audio snippets > externally, > > which means that other audio tools can be used along with Tobi. The > performance of the waveform display has been increased substantially. > For peace of mind, the application now automatically creates backups of the > project file. > > To know more about all the new features and bug fixes, please visit: > http://www.daisy.org/tobi. > > Tobi team would like to thank all contributors and supporters for their > valuable feedback in 2012. > > Best > George > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer Sutton [mailto:jsuttondc@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:59 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Production of EPUB 3 Content? > > Greetings: > > For those interested in Epub 3, here's a book by Matt Garrish that > you might find helpful: > > http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920025283.do > > In addition, it might be helpful if those interested contacted the > IDPF directly. Since it's the standards-making body, and the > organization has generally embraced accessibility, I'd hope they'd > have a sense of the status of tools and such. Contacting the IDPF > could surely raise the visibility among its members for the kinds of > authoring and reading tools that the higher education community > needs. Start at: > > www.idpf.org > > Best, > Jennifer > > At 02:36 PM 1/31/2013, you wrote: > >Hi Al, > > > >This is an excellent question. I have no great answer. There is no > >EPUB3 movement underway at OSU, either within disability services or > >within eLearning. It will likely start in eLearning before it starts > >in our DS office. > > > >InDesign will produce EPUB3, but from all reports I've heard, it's > >pretty broken. The sigil editor has EPUB 3 production on the radar > >but it's not implemented, not even in beta, from what I can tell. > >BlueGriffon EPUB Edition will produce EPUB3. You can try it for > >free. It's about $265 to purchase (advertised prices are in Euros). > >It could be the best bet for book production as EPUB3, at this > >point. (Perhaps an InDesign to broken EPUB to BlueGriffon to fix > >that borked EPUB?) If only iBooks Author created real rather than > >bastardized EPUB3.... > > > >And Al what are you recommending for reading EPUB 3? iBooks handles > >a lot of the spec, but not all. There's Azardi, but it lacks screen > >reader accessibility. And there's Adobe Digital Editions. ADE has > >pretty decent initial EPUB3 support, but it doesn't render MathML or > >the canvas element, not sure about SVG, but I know it doesn't handle > >video or audio tags. The advantage of ADE is that it has good screen > >reader support. Nook Study will open basic EPUB3 books and it has > >the advantage of having built in reading+text-highlighting, but it > >will crash if complex EPUB3 is opened in it. Then there's the > >promising Readium project. It has very good EPUB3 support, but its > >designed as a test bed platform not as a "production" reader and > >it's not working well with any screen reader at this point, > >including ChromeVox. It will support most MathML (through MathJax) > >and supports video and audio (because it's running in Chrome, after > >all). We need one killer EPUB3 player on Windows and Mac but it's > >just not there yet. I'm hoping Adobe comes to the rescue. ADE has > >been getting better. We were working the B&N on Nook Study > >accessibility for a short time but that effort fell through. > > > >I'd love to hear what you guys are doing. > > > >Best, > > > > > >ken > >-- > >Ken Petri > >Program Director, OSU Web Accessibility Center > >102D Pomerene Hall, 1760 Neil Avenue, Columbus, Ohio 43210 > >Office: 614.292.1760 | Mobile: 614.218.1499 | Fax: 614.292.4190 > >http://wac.osu.edu | > >petri.1@osu.edu > > > > > >On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Al Puzzuoli > ><alpuzz@msu.edu> wrote: > > > >Just curious as to whether anyone is currently producing E-Text > >content in EPUB 3, or whether you have begun looking at how to do so > >in future? We are currently exploring the possibility of > >transitioning our base format to EPUB 3 but at this point, we're > >not even sure which software out there would provide the best solution. > > > >Any comments would be very welcome, > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > >Al Puzzuoli > > > >Michigan State University > > > >Information > >Technologist > >http://www.rcpd.msu.edu > > > >Resource Center for Persons with > >Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 Bessey Hall East > >Lansing, MI 48824-1033 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >athen-list mailing list > > >athen-list@mailman1.u.washingt > on.edu > >http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >athen-list mailing list > >athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > >http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grubaugh at sfsu.edu Mon Feb 4 10:40:43 2013 From: grubaugh at sfsu.edu (Bill Grubaugh) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] NIDRR Call for Cloud WWW access Reviewers: Message-ID: Please distribute as appropriate: The U.S. Department of Education, National Institute on Disability and Rehabilitation Research (NIDRR), is seeking peer reviewers with expertise in Cloud and World Wide Web access for people with disabilities. NIDRR needs reviewers with Cloud and Web accessibility expertise for our Field Initiated Program (FIP) competition and a Disability and Rehabilitation Research Program (DRRP) competition on Inclusive Cloud and Web computing. Both of these competitions will take place by teleconference and an online computer system, so reviewers will not need to travel. If you would like to be considered for one of our peer review panels, please send an updated and full version of your resume to bonnie.gracer@ed.gov, and indicate your interest and date availability in the email. NIDRR's Field-Initiated Competition will be held on three sets of dates: April 29-May 1, 2013 May 6-8, 2013 May 20-22, 2013 The competition for the DRRP on Inclusive Cloud and Web computing will take place sometime this summer. The Notice of Proposed Priority is out for public comment now, and is attached. Comments may be sent to Marlene.Spencer@ed.gov by February 14, 2013. You must include the phrase "Proposed Priority for Inclusive Cloud and Web Computing in the subject line of your electronic message. Please feel free to distribute this notice to interested colleagues. Also, please note that Federal employees are not eligible to serve as NIDRR peer reviewers. Thank you very much for your assistance, Bonnie L. Gracer, MA, MSW Program Specialist U.S. Department of Education Office of Special Education and Rehabilitative Services National Institute on Disability and Rehabilitation Research Potomac Center South 550 12th Street, S.W. Washington, D.C. 20202 http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/osers/nidrr/about.html From tft at uw.edu Mon Feb 4 16:58:41 2013 From: tft at uw.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Collaborating with Canvas Message-ID: Hi All, Do any of you have an active dialog with Instructure about accessibility of Canvas? If so, would you mind expanding that to include others? If no one's currently having that dialog, are there others on the list with an interest in having one? ATHEN has a history of engaging in productive collaborative relationships with vendors, including LMS vendors such as Blackboard and Desire2Learn. I'd be interested in exploring the possibility of having a similar relationship with Canvas. Anyone else? Regards, Terry -- Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Information Technology University of Washington tft@uw.edu 206-221-4168 From foreigntype at cox.net Mon Feb 4 17:16:11 2013 From: foreigntype at cox.net (Me) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Collaborating with Canvas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1d9235a2-52d3-4756-8523-b7f0c5fe2468@blur> I would be glad to participate. My last assignment to use canvas was as a Portuguese prof. and not as a DRS manager or as an AT specialist. I would be able to perhaps add an extra dimension to the conversations. Wink Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Terrill Thompson To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Sent: Tue, 05 Feb 2013, 00:58:41 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Athen] Collaborating with Canvas Hi All, Do any of you have an active dialog with Instructure about accessibility of Canvas? If so, would you mind expanding that to include others? If no one's currently having that dialog, are there others on the list with an interest in having one? ATHEN has a history of engaging in productive collaborative relationships with vendors, including LMS vendors such as Blackboard and Desire2Learn. I'd be interested in exploring the possibility of having a similar relationship with Canvas. Anyone else? Regards, Terry -- Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Information Technology University of Washington tft@uw.edu 206-221-4168 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 18:42:20 2013 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Openstax In-Reply-To: <2BE2F574F4D1D44992401B352E739A3609A6F354@SSC-Exch10.starkstate.edu> References: <2BE2F574F4D1D44992401B352E739A3609A6F354@SSC-Exch10.starkstate.edu> Message-ID: <00cd01ce034a$6c6848c0$4538da40$@gmail.com> Forwarding this from another list. Anyone have any answers or contact info at openstax.org? Thanks in advance, esteemed colleagues! Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant & Multi-Language Alt-Media Production The Foreign Type foreigntype@gmail.com Portland OR 480-984-0034 -----Original Message----- From: Disabled Student Services in Higher Education [mailto:DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee, Melody Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 6:31 AM To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Openstax Has anyone had experience with books from Openstax.org. I had a student that I was going to show how to use the read aloud feature for her PDF book from Openstax but they have not allowed that feature, and I'm unsure how to contact anyone about their accessibility. Does anyone have contact information for them? Has anyone tried their epubs with accessibility features? Melody G. M. Lee, MS, CRC Disability Support Services Stark State College 6200 Frank Ave. North Canton, OH 44614 This list is intended to serve as a forum for higher education professionals involved in the delivery of services to students with disabilities in higher education. Any commercial posts or posts that are deemed by the listowner to be inappropriate for the list will result in the poster being removed from the list. To sign off the list, send a message to * listserv@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu * with the message * Unsubscribe dsshe-L To search the archives, go to http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/archives/dsshe-l.html Questions? Contact Listowner Dan Ryan at dryan@buffalo.edu From johumber at iupui.edu Tue Feb 5 04:39:40 2013 From: johumber at iupui.edu (Humbert, Joseph A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Collaborating with Canvas In-Reply-To: <1d9235a2-52d3-4756-8523-b7f0c5fe2468@blur> References: <1d9235a2-52d3-4756-8523-b7f0c5fe2468@blur> Message-ID: <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B75300009AE@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> I would be glad to participate as well. Joe Humbert, Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Specialist UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E Indianapolis, IN 46202 Office Phone: (317) 274-4378 Cell Phone: (317) 644-6824 johumber@iupui.edu http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Me Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Collaborating with Canvas I would be glad to participate. My last assignment to use canvas was as a Portuguese prof. and not as a DRS manager or as an AT specialist. I would be able to perhaps add an extra dimension to the conversations. Wink Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Terrill Thompson > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Sent: Tue, 05 Feb 2013, 00:58:41 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Athen] Collaborating with Canvas Hi All, Do any of you have an active dialog with Instructure about accessibility of Canvas? If so, would you mind expanding that to include others? If no one's currently having that dialog, are there others on the list with an interest in having one? ATHEN has a history of engaging in productive collaborative relationships with vendors, including LMS vendors such as Blackboard and Desire2Learn. I'd be interested in exploring the possibility of having a similar relationship with Canvas. Anyone else? 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URL: From ron at ahead.org Tue Feb 5 05:07:45 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Openstax In-Reply-To: <00cd01ce034a$6c6848c0$4538da40$@gmail.com> References: <2BE2F574F4D1D44992401B352E739A3609A6F354@SSC-Exch10.starkstate.edu> <00cd01ce034a$6c6848c0$4538da40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <016801ce03a1$caa82c00$5ff88400$@ahead.org> The Openstax material are a project of the Connexions effort out of Rice University. http://cnx.org/ I was at a conference there when they announced this effort, at that time these materials were going to be produced by a third party vendor. I brought up the issue of accessibility and was told they were working on it but initially that they were going to be produced in ePub and PDF format by a third party publisher. Looks like that is an unfulfilled promise. It is really too bad since once again this is an instance of material being produced in fully accessible form, CNX uses XML+MathML+SVG in the general authoring system but publishes in inaccessible forms. They claim their regular materials work with screen readers, but this does not extend to the Openstax books it seems. I would contact them directly and voice your displeasure and also try to get your institutions to not use the materials until they are available in fully accessible forms. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of foreigntype Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] FW: Openstax Forwarding this from another list. Anyone have any answers or contact info at openstax.org? Thanks in advance, esteemed colleagues! Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant & Multi-Language Alt-Media Production The Foreign Type foreigntype@gmail.com Portland OR 480-984-0034 -----Original Message----- From: Disabled Student Services in Higher Education [mailto:DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee, Melody Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 6:31 AM To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Openstax Has anyone had experience with books from Openstax.org. I had a student that I was going to show how to use the read aloud feature for her PDF book from Openstax but they have not allowed that feature, and I'm unsure how to contact anyone about their accessibility. Does anyone have contact information for them? Has anyone tried their epubs with accessibility features? Melody G. M. Lee, MS, CRC Disability Support Services Stark State College 6200 Frank Ave. North Canton, OH 44614 This list is intended to serve as a forum for higher education professionals involved in the delivery of services to students with disabilities in higher education. Any commercial posts or posts that are deemed by the listowner to be inappropriate for the list will result in the poster being removed from the list. To sign off the list, send a message to * listserv@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu * with the message * Unsubscribe dsshe-L To search the archives, go to http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/archives/dsshe-l.html Questions? Contact Listowner Dan Ryan at dryan@buffalo.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu Tue Feb 5 06:26:25 2013 From: jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu (Julie Balassa) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Collaborating with Canvas In-Reply-To: <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B75300009AE@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> References: <1d9235a2-52d3-4756-8523-b7f0c5fe2468@blur> <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B75300009AE@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> Message-ID: Ditto, I?d love to participate. I did evaluate an initial bit of Canvas here as we?re switching from Blackboard. The person in charge loaded some course modules for me that were for the most part inaccessible but not sure he knew what he was doing. jkb Julie K. Balassa Assistant Director, Office for Students with Disabilities Mail Code 3-31 701 N Econlockhatchee Trail Orlando, FL 32825 office: building 5 suite 216 east: 407.582.2039 west: 407.582.1603 vp east: 407.374.1562 vp west: 407-992-8941 fax: 407.582.8908 jbalassa@valenciacollege.edu [cid:image001.png@01CE0382.DEADD890] Please note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure. From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Humbert, Joseph A Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 7:40 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] Collaborating with Canvas I would be glad to participate as well. Joe Humbert, Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Specialist UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E Indianapolis, IN 46202 Office Phone: (317) 274-4378 Cell Phone: (317) 644-6824 johumber@iupui.edu http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Me Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Collaborating with Canvas I would be glad to participate. My last assignment to use canvas was as a Portuguese prof. and not as a DRS manager or as an AT specialist. I would be able to perhaps add an extra dimension to the conversations. Wink Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Terrill Thompson > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Sent: Tue, 05 Feb 2013, 00:58:41 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Athen] Collaborating with Canvas Hi All, Do any of you have an active dialog with Instructure about accessibility of Canvas? If so, would you mind expanding that to include others? If no one's currently having that dialog, are there others on the list with an interest in having one? ATHEN has a history of engaging in productive collaborative relationships with vendors, including LMS vendors such as Blackboard and Desire2Learn. I'd be interested in exploring the possibility of having a similar relationship with Canvas. Anyone else? Regards, Terry -- Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Information Technology University of Washington tft@uw.edu 206-221-4168 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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"I will make it accessible later" = I will not make it accessible ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 5:08 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] FW: Openstax The Openstax material are a project of the Connexions effort out of Rice University. http://cnx.org/ I was at a conference there when they announced this effort, at that time these materials were going to be produced by a third party vendor. I brought up the issue of accessibility and was told they were working on it but initially that they were going to be produced in ePub and PDF format by a third party publisher. Looks like that is an unfulfilled promise. It is really too bad since once again this is an instance of material being produced in fully accessible form, CNX uses XML+MathML+SVG in the general authoring system but publishes in inaccessible forms. They claim their regular materials work with screen readers, but this does not extend to the Openstax books it seems. I would contact them directly and voice your displeasure and also try to get your institutions to not use the materials until they are available in fully accessible forms. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of foreigntype Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] FW: Openstax Forwarding this from another list. Anyone have any answers or contact info at openstax.org? Thanks in advance, esteemed colleagues! Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant & Multi-Language Alt-Media Production The Foreign Type foreigntype@gmail.com Portland OR 480-984-0034 -----Original Message----- From: Disabled Student Services in Higher Education [mailto:DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee, Melody Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 6:31 AM To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Openstax Has anyone had experience with books from Openstax.org. I had a student that I was going to show how to use the read aloud feature for her PDF book from Openstax but they have not allowed that feature, and I'm unsure how to contact anyone about their accessibility. Does anyone have contact information for them? Has anyone tried their epubs with accessibility features? Melody G. M. Lee, MS, CRC Disability Support Services Stark State College 6200 Frank Ave. North Canton, OH 44614 This list is intended to serve as a forum for higher education professionals involved in the delivery of services to students with disabilities in higher education. Any commercial posts or posts that are deemed by the listowner to be inappropriate for the list will result in the poster being removed from the list. To sign off the list, send a message to * listserv@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu * with the message * Unsubscribe dsshe-L To search the archives, go to http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/archives/dsshe-l.html Questions? Contact Listowner Dan Ryan at dryan@buffalo.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From burke at ucla.edu Tue Feb 5 14:42:48 2013 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Requesting Assistance with PDF Document Message-ID: <30391_1360104194_r15MhDO8030471_201302052242.r15MgmV4006774@mail.ucla.edu> Helloooo ATHENians! I hate admitting defeat, but we have one rather large PDF file that is posing some baffling issues. If anyone would be willing to help analyze, I would much appreciate it. (I'll buy beers at CSUN, if you'll be there!...) Please get in touch off list: burke@ucla.edu The text is a 98-page e-book on a project to include PWDs in local & national volunteer activities, if that sparks anyone's interest. One of the problems I'm encountering is bullet symbols that get converted as "nmlkj", which is disturbing for screen reader users, to say the least. Apparently this is a unicode encoding issue, but I have no idea what to do about it. Thanks much for any help, Patrick -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke@ucla.edu Location: 4909 Math Science Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu From gdietrich at htctu.net Tue Feb 5 14:45:57 2013 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Requesting Assistance with PDF Document In-Reply-To: <30391_1360104194_r15MhDO8030471_201302052242.r15MgmV4006774@mail.ucla.edu> References: <30391_1360104194_r15MhDO8030471_201302052242.r15MgmV4006774@mail.ucla.edu> Message-ID: <56B198E6A3F24ACFA4F279284898870F@htctu.fhda.edu> Not sure if this is helpful, but in the braille world, we use asterisks as bullets, rather than the special symbols. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Burke Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:43 PM To: ATHEN Subject: [Athen] Requesting Assistance with PDF Document Helloooo ATHENians! I hate admitting defeat, but we have one rather large PDF file that is posing some baffling issues. If anyone would be willing to help analyze, I would much appreciate it. (I'll buy beers at CSUN, if you'll be there!...) Please get in touch off list: burke@ucla.edu The text is a 98-page e-book on a project to include PWDs in local & national volunteer activities, if that sparks anyone's interest. One of the problems I'm encountering is bullet symbols that get converted as "nmlkj", which is disturbing for screen reader users, to say the least. Apparently this is a unicode encoding issue, but I have no idea what to do about it. Thanks much for any help, Patrick -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke@ucla.edu Location: 4909 Math Science Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From info at karlencommunications.com Tue Feb 5 15:01:24 2013 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Requesting Assistance with PDF Document In-Reply-To: <30391_1360104194_r15MhDO8030471_201302052242.r15MgmV4006774@mail.ucla.edu> References: <30391_1360104194_r15MhDO8030471_201302052242.r15MgmV4006774@mail.ucla.edu> Message-ID: <7583C8B8-814F-43BA-BDE8-9AD382D11EBB@karlencommunications.com> As long as you have the list properly tagged, make the actual symbols Artifacts...screen readers will be able to identify individual bullets. Otherwise, of you used Word, just switch to the standard filled circle bullets. Cheers, Karen Out of Office, Sent from my iPad On 2013-02-05, at 5:42 PM, Patrick Burke wrote: > Helloooo ATHENians! > > I hate admitting defeat, but we have one rather large PDF file that is posing some baffling issues. If anyone would be willing to help analyze, I would much appreciate it. (I'll buy beers at CSUN, if you'll be there!...) Please get in touch off list: burke@ucla.edu > > The text is a 98-page e-book on a project to include PWDs in local & national volunteer activities, if that sparks anyone's interest. One of the problems I'm encountering is bullet symbols that get converted as "nmlkj", which is disturbing for screen reader users, to say the least. Apparently this is a unicode encoding issue, but I have no idea what to do about it. > > Thanks much for any help, > > Patrick > > > -- > Patrick J. Burke > > Coordinator > UCLA Disabilities & > Computing Program > > Phone: 310 206-6004 > E-mail: burke@ucla.edu > Location: 4909 Math Science > > > Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From skeegan at stanford.edu Tue Feb 5 15:18:21 2013 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Requesting Assistance with PDF Document In-Reply-To: <30391_1360104194_r15MhDO8030471_201302052242.r15MgmV4006774@mail.ucla.edu> References: <30391_1360104194_r15MhDO8030471_201302052242.r15MgmV4006774@mail.ucla.edu> Message-ID: <5111933D.8000502@stanford.edu> Hi Patrick, I have seen this occur in some PDF documents that originally started as MS Word documents. For some reason, the bullets from the automatic numbering are interpreted as "nmlkj" in the text layer of the PDF document. In nearly all cases, I was dealing with an untagged PDF document (as far as I can remember). Karen has the best recommendation of marking those symbols as Artifacts in the PDF document. The other option would be to start from MS Word again and export out a tagged PDF version. That *should* remedy the problem. What I used to do is make the conversion from PDF to MS Word and then do a search/replace to remove the "nmlkj" and replace that with an asterisk. Take care, Sean On 2/5/13 2:42 PM, Patrick Burke wrote: > Helloooo ATHENians! > > I hate admitting defeat, but we have one rather large PDF file that is > posing some baffling issues. If anyone would be willing to help analyze, > I would much appreciate it. (I'll buy beers at CSUN, if you'll be > there!...) Please get in touch off list: burke@ucla.edu > > The text is a 98-page e-book on a project to include PWDs in local & > national volunteer activities, if that sparks anyone's interest. One of > the problems I'm encountering is bullet symbols that get converted as > "nmlkj", which is disturbing for screen reader users, to say the least. > Apparently this is a unicode encoding issue, but I have no idea what to > do about it. > > Thanks much for any help, > > Patrick > > > -- > Patrick J. Burke > > Coordinator > UCLA Disabilities & > Computing Program > > Phone: 310 206-6004 > E-mail: burke@ucla.edu > Location: 4909 Math Science > > > Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From foreigntype at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 18:27:52 2013 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Openstax In-Reply-To: <647E91B58ADD4029B8A463ED1BB2B4DA@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <2BE2F574F4D1D44992401B352E739A3609A6F354@SSC-Exch10.starkstate.edu><00cd01ce034a$6c6848c0$4538da40$@gmail.com> <016801ce03a1$caa82c00$5ff88400$@ahead.org> <647E91B58ADD4029B8A463ED1BB2B4DA@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <040501ce0411$93559e20$ba00da60$@gmail.com> @ Gaier: Exactly. If you don't have time to do it right NOW, it won't get done right later. As I used to say: "Do you want us to do it right or do you want us to do it twice?" Blessings, all. Wink Harner foreigntype@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 9:56 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] FW: Openstax What I have learned in AT school... "I will make it accessible later" = I will not make it accessible ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 5:08 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] FW: Openstax The Openstax material are a project of the Connexions effort out of Rice University. http://cnx.org/ I was at a conference there when they announced this effort, at that time these materials were going to be produced by a third party vendor. I brought up the issue of accessibility and was told they were working on it but initially that they were going to be produced in ePub and PDF format by a third party publisher. Looks like that is an unfulfilled promise. It is really too bad since once again this is an instance of material being produced in fully accessible form, CNX uses XML+MathML+SVG in the general authoring system but publishes in inaccessible forms. They claim their regular materials work with screen readers, but this does not extend to the Openstax books it seems. I would contact them directly and voice your displeasure and also try to get your institutions to not use the materials until they are available in fully accessible forms. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of foreigntype Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] FW: Openstax Forwarding this from another list. Anyone have any answers or contact info at openstax.org? Thanks in advance, esteemed colleagues! Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant & Multi-Language Alt-Media Production The Foreign Type foreigntype@gmail.com Portland OR 480-984-0034 -----Original Message----- From: Disabled Student Services in Higher Education [mailto:DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee, Melody Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 6:31 AM To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Openstax Has anyone had experience with books from Openstax.org. I had a student that I was going to show how to use the read aloud feature for her PDF book from Openstax but they have not allowed that feature, and I'm unsure how to contact anyone about their accessibility. Does anyone have contact information for them? Has anyone tried their epubs with accessibility features? Melody G. M. Lee, MS, CRC Disability Support Services Stark State College 6200 Frank Ave. North Canton, OH 44614 This list is intended to serve as a forum for higher education professionals involved in the delivery of services to students with disabilities in higher education. Any commercial posts or posts that are deemed by the listowner to be inappropriate for the list will result in the poster being removed from the list. To sign off the list, send a message to * listserv@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu * with the message * Unsubscribe dsshe-L To search the archives, go to http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/archives/dsshe-l.html Questions? Contact Listowner Dan Ryan at dryan@buffalo.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From info at karlencommunications.com Wed Feb 6 02:32:10 2013 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Requesting Assistance with PDF Document In-Reply-To: <5111933D.8000502@stanford.edu> References: <30391_1360104194_r15MhDO8030471_201302052242.r15MgmV4006774@mail.ucla.edu> <5111933D.8000502@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <006201ce0455$38dbe730$aa93b590$@karlencommunications.com> There are some of the "standard" bullets in the Word bullet gallery that are non-unicode elements or appear as such in a PDF document even though they can be identified by screen readers in the Word document. Two examples are the chevrons and the check marks. Picture bullets used to be an issue but with Word 2010 or 2013 and Acrobat XI they no longer appear to be. Chevrons and check marks can still be problematic. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 6:18 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Requesting Assistance with PDF Document Hi Patrick, I have seen this occur in some PDF documents that originally started as MS Word documents. For some reason, the bullets from the automatic numbering are interpreted as "nmlkj" in the text layer of the PDF document. In nearly all cases, I was dealing with an untagged PDF document (as far as I can remember). Karen has the best recommendation of marking those symbols as Artifacts in the PDF document. The other option would be to start from MS Word again and export out a tagged PDF version. That *should* remedy the problem. What I used to do is make the conversion from PDF to MS Word and then do a search/replace to remove the "nmlkj" and replace that with an asterisk. Take care, Sean On 2/5/13 2:42 PM, Patrick Burke wrote: > Helloooo ATHENians! > > I hate admitting defeat, but we have one rather large PDF file that is > posing some baffling issues. If anyone would be willing to help > analyze, I would much appreciate it. (I'll buy beers at CSUN, if > you'll be > there!...) Please get in touch off list: burke@ucla.edu > > The text is a 98-page e-book on a project to include PWDs in local & > national volunteer activities, if that sparks anyone's interest. One > of the problems I'm encountering is bullet symbols that get converted > as "nmlkj", which is disturbing for screen reader users, to say the least. > Apparently this is a unicode encoding issue, but I have no idea what > to do about it. > > Thanks much for any help, > > Patrick > > > -- > Patrick J. Burke > > Coordinator > UCLA Disabilities & > Computing Program > > Phone: 310 206-6004 > E-mail: burke@ucla.edu > Location: 4909 Math Science > > > Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From burke at ucla.edu Wed Feb 6 10:01:56 2013 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Requesting Assistance with PDF Document In-Reply-To: <006201ce0455$38dbe730$aa93b590$@karlencommunications.com> References: <30391_1360104194_r15MhDO8030471_201302052242.r15MgmV4006774@mail.ucla.edu> <5111933D.8000502@stanford.edu> <006201ce0455$38dbe730$aa93b590$@karlencommunications.com> Message-ID: <27595_1360173773_r16I2qdD023346_201302061801.r16I1uHX025414@mail.ucla.edu> Wow, thanks everybody for the detailed feedback. Fascinating stuff! Much appreciated, Patrick At 02:32 AM 2/6/2013, Karlen Communications wrote: >There are some of the "standard" bullets in the Word bullet gallery that are >non-unicode elements or appear as such in a PDF document even though they >can be identified by screen readers in the Word document. Two examples are >the chevrons and the check marks. Picture bullets used to be an issue but >with Word 2010 or 2013 and Acrobat XI they no longer appear to be. Chevrons >and check marks can still be problematic. > >Cheers, Karen > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu >[mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean J >Keegan >Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 6:18 PM >To: Access Technology Higher Education Network >Subject: Re: [Athen] Requesting Assistance with PDF Document > >Hi Patrick, > >I have seen this occur in some PDF documents that originally started as MS >Word documents. For some reason, the bullets from the automatic numbering >are interpreted as "nmlkj" in the text layer of the PDF document. In nearly >all cases, I was dealing with an untagged PDF document (as far as I can >remember). > >Karen has the best recommendation of marking those symbols as Artifacts in >the PDF document. The other option would be to start from MS Word again and >export out a tagged PDF version. That *should* remedy the problem. > >What I used to do is make the conversion from PDF to MS Word and then do a >search/replace to remove the "nmlkj" and replace that with an asterisk. > >Take care, >Sean > >On 2/5/13 2:42 PM, Patrick Burke wrote: > > Helloooo ATHENians! > > > > I hate admitting defeat, but we have one rather large PDF file that is > > posing some baffling issues. If anyone would be willing to help > > analyze, I would much appreciate it. (I'll buy beers at CSUN, if > > you'll be > > there!...) Please get in touch off list: burke@ucla.edu > > > > The text is a 98-page e-book on a project to include PWDs in local & > > national volunteer activities, if that sparks anyone's interest. One > > of the problems I'm encountering is bullet symbols that get converted > > as "nmlkj", which is disturbing for screen reader users, to say the least. > > Apparently this is a unicode encoding issue, but I have no idea what > > to do about it. > > > > Thanks much for any help, > > > > Patrick > > -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke@ucla.edu Location: 4909 Math Science Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu From hascherdss at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 12:48:39 2013 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] (no subject) Message-ID: +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 12:50:25 2013 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] 32-bit voices on a 64-bit system? Message-ID: Hi all ATHENians! I've recently 'upgraded' my computer from Win XP to Win 7 64 bit. Unfortunately, I can't get the AT&T Mike & Crystal voices to run on the new machine. Any ideas out there on getting Win 7 to accept Mike & Crystal? I would greatly appreciate any guidance! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Wed Feb 6 13:33:19 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] 32-bit voices on a 64-bit system? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003401ce04b1$95750600$c05f1200$@ahead.org> You may need to install the SAPI 4 engine, it is not included in Win7 Ron From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:50 PM To: ATHEN listserv Subject: [Athen] 32-bit voices on a 64-bit system? Hi all ATHENians! I've recently 'upgraded' my computer from Win XP to Win 7 64 bit. Unfortunately, I can't get the AT&T Mike & Crystal voices to run on the new machine. Any ideas out there on getting Win 7 to accept Mike & Crystal? I would greatly appreciate any guidance! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 14:37:39 2013 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] 32-bit voices on a 64-bit system? In-Reply-To: <003401ce04b1$95750600$c05f1200$@ahead.org> References: <003401ce04b1$95750600$c05f1200$@ahead.org> Message-ID: Hey Ron, Tried that, but Win 7 won't let me install it. :-( due to compatibility problems +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: > You may need to install the SAPI 4 engine, it is not included in Win7**** > > ** ** > > Ron**** > > ** ** > > *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: > athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Heidi Scher > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:50 PM > *To:* ATHEN listserv > *Subject:* [Athen] 32-bit voices on a 64-bit system?**** > > ** ** > > Hi all ATHENians!**** > > ** ** > > I've recently 'upgraded' my computer from Win XP to Win 7 64 bit. > Unfortunately, I can't get the AT&T Mike & Crystal voices to run on the new > machine. Any ideas out there on getting Win 7 to accept Mike & Crystal?** > ** > > ** ** > > I would greatly appreciate any guidance!**** > > ** ** > > Heidi**** > > > **** > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++**** > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Wed Feb 6 14:47:20 2013 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] 32-bit voices on a 64-bit system? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5112DD78.4050200@stanford.edu> > I've recently 'upgraded' my computer from Win XP to Win 7 64 bit. > Unfortunately, I can't get the AT&T Mike & Crystal voices to run on > the new machine. Any ideas out there on getting Win 7 to accept Mike & Crystal? I ran across the following article at one time and it may be of use: http://www.accessible-devices.com/ConvertingVoices.htm It seems that you lose the settings when you restart the system, but it is one method to getting your voices working. In some respects, this is part of the reason why we implemented the SCRIBE tool as I could have a dedicated system with all the needed voices running and did not have to worry about compatibility issues. Take care, Sean From hascherdss at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 15:28:15 2013 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] 32-bit voices on a 64-bit system? In-Reply-To: <5112DD78.4050200@stanford.edu> References: <5112DD78.4050200@stanford.edu> Message-ID: Thanks, Sean! I did find that same article. The catch is in #4 - IF you have 32 bit voices installed. But Win 7 keeps stopping me on the install. Our production machines have the dedicated voices, but I use my computer when I'm talking with students and showing demos. So I like to have the two voices we use in production for them to hear. Oh, technology! Can be a pain, but we can't (or definitely don't want to) live without it!! Thanks!! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Sean J Keegan wrote: > > I've recently 'upgraded' my computer from Win XP to Win 7 64 bit. > > Unfortunately, I can't get the AT&T Mike & Crystal voices to run on > > the new machine. Any ideas out there on getting Win 7 to accept Mike & > Crystal? > > I ran across the following article at one time and it may be of use: > http://www.accessible-devices.**com/ConvertingVoices.htm > > It seems that you lose the settings when you restart the system, but it is > one method to getting your voices working. In some respects, this is part > of the reason why we implemented the SCRIBE tool as I could have a > dedicated system with all the needed voices running and did not have to > worry about compatibility issues. > > Take care, > Sean > > ______________________________**_________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.**washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.**edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-**list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Wed Feb 6 16:19:00 2013 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] 32-bit voices on a 64-bit system? In-Reply-To: References: <5112DD78.4050200@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <5112F2F4.7080007@stanford.edu> > The catch is in #4 - IF you have 32 bit voices installed. But Win 7 > keeps stopping me on the install. Ah - apologies. I thought the issue was getting the voices to function, not install. One thought - can you set up a Windows virtual machine? You are still dealing with a 64-bit hardware architecture, but you can create a 32-bit Windows XP, Windows Vista, or Windows 7 version on top of your Windows 7 OS and that might be enough to fake out the TTS voices for installation. We have a staff member who must run an older version of IE to support a legacy timesheet system and the solution we implemented was to create a virtual Windows XP Mode system on her Windows 7 machine. You will need to have Windows 7 Pro, Enterprise, or Ultimate for it to work. Here is some information: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/8254-windows-virtual-pc-create-virtual-machine.html Take care, Sean -- Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae From ron at ahead.org Wed Feb 6 16:26:44 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (ron@ahead.org) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtBdGhlbl0gMzItYml0IHZvaWNlcyBvbiBhIDY0LWJpdCBzeXN0ZW0/?= In-Reply-To: <5112F2F4.7080007@stanford.edu> References: <5112DD78.4050200@stanford.edu> <5112F2F4.7080007@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <20130207002644.28115.qmail@s465.sureserver.com> Try downloading the demo version of Text Aloud that should install the Sapi 4 drivers in the proper location. Ron > -------Original Message------- > From: Sean J Keegan > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] 32-bit voices on a 64-bit system? > Sent: Feb 06 '13 18:19 > > > The catch is in #4 - IF you have 32 bit voices installed. But Win 7 > > keeps stopping me on the install. > > Ah - apologies.??I thought the issue was getting the voices to function, > not install. > > One thought - can you set up a Windows virtual machine???You are still > dealing with a 64-bit hardware architecture, but you can create a 32-bit > Windows XP, Windows Vista, or Windows 7 version on top of your Windows 7 > OS and that might be enough to fake out the TTS voices for installation. > > We have a staff member who must run an older version of IE to support a > legacy timesheet system and the solution we implemented was to create a > virtual Windows XP Mode system on her Windows 7 machine.??You will need > to have Windows 7 Pro, Enterprise, or Ultimate for it to work.??Here is > some information: > http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/8254-windows-virtual-pc-create-virtual-machine.html > > Take care, > Sean > > > -- > Sean Keegan > Associate Director, Assistive Technology > Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University > http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > From ron at ahead.org Wed Feb 6 16:26:44 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (ron@ahead.org) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtBdGhlbl0gMzItYml0IHZvaWNlcyBvbiBhIDY0LWJpdCBzeXN0ZW0/?= In-Reply-To: <5112F2F4.7080007@stanford.edu> References: <5112DD78.4050200@stanford.edu> <5112F2F4.7080007@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <20130207002644.28115.qmail@s465.sureserver.com> Try downloading the demo version of Text Aloud that should install the Sapi 4 drivers in the proper location. Ron > -------Original Message------- > From: Sean J Keegan > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] 32-bit voices on a 64-bit system? > Sent: Feb 06 '13 18:19 > > > The catch is in #4 - IF you have 32 bit voices installed. But Win 7 > > keeps stopping me on the install. > > Ah - apologies.??I thought the issue was getting the voices to function, > not install. > > One thought - can you set up a Windows virtual machine???You are still > dealing with a 64-bit hardware architecture, but you can create a 32-bit > Windows XP, Windows Vista, or Windows 7 version on top of your Windows 7 > OS and that might be enough to fake out the TTS voices for installation. > > We have a staff member who must run an older version of IE to support a > legacy timesheet system and the solution we implemented was to create a > virtual Windows XP Mode system on her Windows 7 machine.??You will need > to have Windows 7 Pro, Enterprise, or Ultimate for it to work.??Here is > some information: > http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/8254-windows-virtual-pc-create-virtual-machine.html > > Take care, > Sean > > > -- > Sean Keegan > Associate Director, Assistive Technology > Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University > http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > From mthornt at uark.edu Wed Feb 6 16:31:53 2013 From: mthornt at uark.edu (Melanie Thornton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Wiki Recommendations Message-ID: Hello, everyone. I am interested in your experiences with Wikis and accessibility. I am trying to make a recommendation to a colleague who wants to make sure they are choosing a tool that is highly accessible as well as being user friendly. A few people have recommended MediaWiki but the colleague says the learning curve is a bit high for her target audience. I wonder what you know about accessibility of PBWorks and Wetpaint. I used PBWorks previously and it had some keyboard navigation problems, but that has been a few years ago. Or do you have other recommendations? Wordpress or Drupal plugins? I appreciate any recommendations you have. Thanks! Melanie -- Melanie Thornton Leadership Development Facilitator UA CURRENTS www.uacurrents.org Special Projects Associate pepnet 2 www.pepnet.org 501.291.3217 (v) Contact me: [image: Skype] melaniepthornton [image: MSN] melaniepthornton@hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am trying to make a recommendation to a colleague who wants to make sure they are choosing a tool that is highly accessible as well as being user friendly. A few people have recommended MediaWiki but the colleague says the learning curve is a bit high for her target audience. I wonder what you know about accessibility of PBWorks and Wetpaint. I used PBWorks previously and it had some keyboard navigation problems, but that has been a few years ago. Or do you have other recommendations? Wordpress or Drupal plugins? I appreciate any recommendations you have. Thanks! Melanie -- Melanie Thornton Leadership Development Facilitator UA CURRENTS www.uacurrents.org Special Projects Associate pepnet 2 www.pepnet.org 501.291.3217 (v) Contact me: Skype melaniepthornton MSN melaniepthornton@hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Wed Feb 6 17:35:26 2013 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] 32-bit voices on a 64-bit system? In-Reply-To: References: <5112DD78.4050200@stanford.edu>, Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A51FF9A@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> You know my answer to everything, eat a brownie. Maybe even feed one to the computer. Sorry, but that's the best I can tell you. I'm using some 32-bit voices on this 64-bit machine and I didn't have any problems getting them installed or working. My voices are the Nio Speak voices though, not AT&T. I haven't tried installing those yet. Later! ________________________________________ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] on behalf of Heidi Scher [hascherdss@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 5:28 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] 32-bit voices on a 64-bit system? Thanks, Sean! I did find that same article. The catch is in #4 - IF you have 32 bit voices installed. But Win 7 keeps stopping me on the install. Our production machines have the dedicated voices, but I use my computer when I'm talking with students and showing demos. So I like to have the two voices we use in production for them to hear. Oh, technology! Can be a pain, but we can't (or definitely don't want to) live without it!! Thanks!! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Sean J Keegan > wrote: > I've recently 'upgraded' my computer from Win XP to Win 7 64 bit. > Unfortunately, I can't get the AT&T Mike & Crystal voices to run on > the new machine. Any ideas out there on getting Win 7 to accept Mike & Crystal? I ran across the following article at one time and it may be of use: http://www.accessible-devices.com/ConvertingVoices.htm It seems that you lose the settings when you restart the system, but it is one method to getting your voices working. In some respects, this is part of the reason why we implemented the SCRIBE tool as I could have a dedicated system with all the needed voices running and did not have to worry about compatibility issues. Take care, Sean _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From dhayman at u.washington.edu Wed Feb 6 20:35:32 2013 From: dhayman at u.washington.edu (Doug Hayman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] 32-bit voices on a 64-bit system? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd looked into this recently for a text to speech app I'd gotten for a participant who cannot speak....while his communication device is out for repairs. >From what I'd seen in searching, Windows 7 no longer give you access to as many voices as earlier versions did. And the vendor of the product wanted $29/voice. The one that comes with Win 7 is female...the student is male and would like...you guessed it, a male voice. I may not have searched far enough but that was what I found...wasn't comparing 32 to 64 bit. Doug Hayman Technology Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Heidi Scher wrote: > Hi all ATHENians! > > I've recently 'upgraded' my computer from Win XP to Win 7 64 bit. > Unfortunately, I can't get the AT&T Mike & Crystal voices to run on the new > machine. Any ideas out there on getting Win 7 to accept Mike & Crystal? > > I would greatly appreciate any guidance! > > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > From skeegan at stanford.edu Thu Feb 7 12:42:20 2013 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Production of EPUB 3 Content? In-Reply-To: <005501ce0164$45fda050$d1f8e0f0$@montana.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20130131145417.01f5e878@wheresmymailserver.com> <005501ce0164$45fda050$d1f8e0f0$@montana.com> Message-ID: <511411AC.80803@stanford.edu> Hi George, In your e-mail, you wrote the following: > Other significant improvements have been introduced since > last major release, based on feedback received from the > DAISY community. This includes rendering of mathematical > equations (with full support for the MathML-in-DAISY profile). > Tobi now also comes with integrated EPUB 3 and DAISY 3 validators, > which can be executed at import and export time. Does this mean that there is support for mathematical equations in ePub 3 with the Tobi tool or is this just referring to the support for MathML in DAISY books? Will there be support for converting DTBook documents with MathML content into ePub 3 files with other DAISY tools? Thanks, Sean -- Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae From Cassandra.Tex at humboldt.edu Thu Feb 7 13:16:43 2013 From: Cassandra.Tex at humboldt.edu (Cassandra L. Tex) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks with Math Message-ID: <3bc461791ce4d0dfd1c06482652b15c5@mail.gmail.com> Greetings All, Sorry for the cross posting.... In general, what are your students with learning disabilities who have textbooks with math (math, physics, chemistry, etc.) doing with regards to alternate media and e-text? What types of files are you providing for them? It's my understanding that the math will only be spoken if the documents are produced in Word, inserting equations/symbols with MathType, saving as MathPage (HTML files with MathML), and reading the file in Internet Explorer with MathPlayer plug-in and JAWS. Is that correct? Any other way (with only text-to-speech, not screen reader) to get the math spoken? Final question...if there is a way to get the math spoken with text-to-speech (not screen reader), do your students with learning disabilities generally like listening to the spoken math? Thanks for your help! Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University tex@humboldt.edu From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Thu Feb 7 13:29:19 2013 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks with Math In-Reply-To: <3bc461791ce4d0dfd1c06482652b15c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <3bc461791ce4d0dfd1c06482652b15c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A520350@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Read&Write will read MathML as well. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Cassandra L. Tex Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 3:17 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Alternate Media Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks with Math Greetings All, Sorry for the cross posting.... In general, what are your students with learning disabilities who have textbooks with math (math, physics, chemistry, etc.) doing with regards to alternate media and e-text? What types of files are you providing for them? It's my understanding that the math will only be spoken if the documents are produced in Word, inserting equations/symbols with MathType, saving as MathPage (HTML files with MathML), and reading the file in Internet Explorer with MathPlayer plug-in and JAWS. Is that correct? Any other way (with only text-to-speech, not screen reader) to get the math spoken? Final question...if there is a way to get the math spoken with text-to-speech (not screen reader), do your students with learning disabilities generally like listening to the spoken math? Thanks for your help! Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University tex@humboldt.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Thu Feb 7 13:44:36 2013 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks with Math In-Reply-To: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A520350@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> References: <3bc461791ce4d0dfd1c06482652b15c5@mail.gmail.com> <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A520350@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76B931@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Hi, Robert. Math up to what level? Am curious since many of the students I serve with Cassandra's method are in Calculus and above. We don't have a license for R&WG so I cannot test for myself, details would be greatly appreciated. Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:29 PM To: Cassandra.Tex@humboldt.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks with Math Read&Write will read MathML as well. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Cassandra L. Tex Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 3:17 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Alternate Media Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks with Math Greetings All, Sorry for the cross posting.... In general, what are your students with learning disabilities who have textbooks with math (math, physics, chemistry, etc.) doing with regards to alternate media and e-text? What types of files are you providing for them? It's my understanding that the math will only be spoken if the documents are produced in Word, inserting equations/symbols with MathType, saving as MathPage (HTML files with MathML), and reading the file in Internet Explorer with MathPlayer plug-in and JAWS. Is that correct? Any other way (with only text-to-speech, not screen reader) to get the math spoken? Final question...if there is a way to get the math spoken with text-to-speech (not screen reader), do your students with learning disabilities generally like listening to the spoken math? Thanks for your help! Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University tex@humboldt.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From grubaugh at sfsu.edu Thu Feb 7 13:48:02 2013 From: grubaugh at sfsu.edu (Bill Grubaugh) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Survey Emergency Communications Message-ID: Anyone want to participate? Please circulate. The Wireless Rehabilitation Engineering Research Center has launched a new survey on emergency communications to help improve accessibility of emergency response. You will be asked to share some information about yourself, your experience and your preferences for communicating during emergencies. You can take the survey online, by phone or on paper by calling 1-404-367-1348. Bill Grubaugh MS HF/E 508/504 ADA Compliance Analyst -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Thu Feb 7 13:52:31 2013 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks with Math In-Reply-To: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76B931@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <3bc461791ce4d0dfd1c06482652b15c5@mail.gmail.com> <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A520350@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76B931@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A52037C@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> I have not tested to what level. My understanding is if it can be written in MathML, R&W can read it. I don't believe the limitation (if any) would be on the part of R&W, but on the part of MathML. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 3:45 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Cassandra.Tex@humboldt.edu Subject: RE: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks with Math Hi, Robert. Math up to what level? Am curious since many of the students I serve with Cassandra's method are in Calculus and above. We don't have a license for R&WG so I cannot test for myself, details would be greatly appreciated. Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:29 PM To: Cassandra.Tex@humboldt.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks with Math Read&Write will read MathML as well. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Cassandra L. Tex Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 3:17 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Alternate Media Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks with Math Greetings All, Sorry for the cross posting.... In general, what are your students with learning disabilities who have textbooks with math (math, physics, chemistry, etc.) doing with regards to alternate media and e-text? What types of files are you providing for them? It's my understanding that the math will only be spoken if the documents are produced in Word, inserting equations/symbols with MathType, saving as MathPage (HTML files with MathML), and reading the file in Internet Explorer with MathPlayer plug-in and JAWS. Is that correct? Any other way (with only text-to-speech, not screen reader) to get the math spoken? Final question...if there is a way to get the math spoken with text-to-speech (not screen reader), do your students with learning disabilities generally like listening to the spoken math? Thanks for your help! Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University tex@humboldt.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From gdietrich at htctu.net Thu Feb 7 13:53:04 2013 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks withMath In-Reply-To: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76B931@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <3bc461791ce4d0dfd1c06482652b15c5@mail.gmail.com><34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A520350@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76B931@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: R&W is relying on MathPlayer, so the question is really what level MathPlayer can read. Below is a link with sample equations: http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/tech/accessibility.htm#Some Sample Equations to Speak Once MathPlayer is installed, you just right click on the equation to have it speak. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 1:45 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Cassandra.Tex@humboldt.edu Subject: RE: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks withMath Hi, Robert. Math up to what level? Am curious since many of the students I serve with Cassandra's method are in Calculus and above. We don't have a license for R&WG so I cannot test for myself, details would be greatly appreciated. Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:29 PM To: Cassandra.Tex@humboldt.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks with Math Read&Write will read MathML as well. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Cassandra L. Tex Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 3:17 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Alternate Media Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks with Math Greetings All, Sorry for the cross posting.... In general, what are your students with learning disabilities who have textbooks with math (math, physics, chemistry, etc.) doing with regards to alternate media and e-text? What types of files are you providing for them? It's my understanding that the math will only be spoken if the documents are produced in Word, inserting equations/symbols with MathType, saving as MathPage (HTML files with MathML), and reading the file in Internet Explorer with MathPlayer plug-in and JAWS. Is that correct? Any other way (with only text-to-speech, not screen reader) to get the math spoken? Final question...if there is a way to get the math spoken with text-to-speech (not screen reader), do your students with learning disabilities generally like listening to the spoken math? Thanks for your help! Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University tex@humboldt.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Thu Feb 7 14:19:41 2013 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks withMath In-Reply-To: References: <3bc461791ce4d0dfd1c06482652b15c5@mail.gmail.com><34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A520350@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76B931@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76BB7D@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Good to know -- we've had no problems with MathPlayer reading appropriately at any level, so R&W should work if a student has it. On a related note, however, has anyone figured out a method for making math accessible on a Mac platform? To reply from our side to Cassandra's question about using TTS with math, it has depended on the student. Since producing MathML enhanced content is highly labor intensive, we only provide it to students who have a need for audio support for the math. The majority of our students with learning disabilities need the text to be spoken but say that they don't need the math, so in those cases we provide other formats. Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:53 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks withMath R&W is relying on MathPlayer, so the question is really what level MathPlayer can read. Below is a link with sample equations: http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/tech/accessibility.htm#Some Sample Equations to Speak Once MathPlayer is installed, you just right click on the equation to have it speak. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 1:45 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Cassandra.Tex@humboldt.edu Subject: RE: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks withMath Hi, Robert. Math up to what level? Am curious since many of the students I serve with Cassandra's method are in Calculus and above. We don't have a license for R&WG so I cannot test for myself, details would be greatly appreciated. Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:29 PM To: Cassandra.Tex@humboldt.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks with Math Read&Write will read MathML as well. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Cassandra L. Tex Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 3:17 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; Alternate Media Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks with Math Greetings All, Sorry for the cross posting.... In general, what are your students with learning disabilities who have textbooks with math (math, physics, chemistry, etc.) doing with regards to alternate media and e-text? What types of files are you providing for them? It's my understanding that the math will only be spoken if the documents are produced in Word, inserting equations/symbols with MathType, saving as MathPage (HTML files with MathML), and reading the file in Internet Explorer with MathPlayer plug-in and JAWS. Is that correct? Any other way (with only text-to-speech, not screen reader) to get the math spoken? Final question...if there is a way to get the math spoken with text-to-speech (not screen reader), do your students with learning disabilities generally like listening to the spoken math? Thanks for your help! Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University tex@humboldt.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From norm.coombs at gmail.com Thu Feb 7 14:37:26 2013 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] EASI Webinar Accessibility to science laboratory classroom Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20130207143036.049ec3e8@pop.gmail.com> EASI free Webinar science courses can be accessible Emerging Trends in the Full Integration of the Blind and Visually Impaired in Science Education Monday February 18 presenter: Cary A. Supalo, Assistant Professor of Chemistry at Illinois State University Times 9 Pacific, 10 Mountain 11 Central and Noon Eastern This presentation will discuss new methodologies being used in science classrooms to promote increased student engagement in the science laboratory classroom for students with visual impairments. Further, new access technology solutions and suggested teaching strategies that have proven to be beneficial to a student with a visual impairment will also be presented. Specifics as to the types of curriculum modifications and their successful implementation in the secondary and post-secondary science laboratory courses will be described. students with disabilities frequently avoid science classes, and schools often discourage those who want to take such courses. This is no longer necessary. Both the faculty and the students need to be aware of the tools and techniques which can bridge this chasm. Read more and register at: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm/#february . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It's never too late to become what you might have been. George Eliot Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com Making Online Teaching Accessible: Inclusive Course Design for Students with Disabilities by Norman Coombs published by Jossey-Bass Oct 10,2010 http://www.josseybass.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470499044.html From skeegan at stanford.edu Thu Feb 7 14:54:21 2013 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks withMath In-Reply-To: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76BB7D@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <3bc461791ce4d0dfd1c06482652b15c5@mail.gmail.com><34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A520350@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76B931@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76BB7D@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <5114309D.1000202@stanford.edu> > On a related note, however, has anyone figured out a method > for making math accessible on a Mac platform? Unfortunately, there does not appear to be many options (still). The one solution that did work - intermittently, mind you - was the PT Reader plug-in for Firefox. This would allow you to open a DTBook.xml file in Firefox and would read the MathML content natively. The website is available at: http://www.cwu.edu/disability-support/pt-reader What was so cool about this plug-in was that you could change the level of verbosity specific to math content to communicate more or less information about the equations. In other words, some students may prefer a very brief description of an equation whereas other students may prefer a more verbose description of the equation. The plug-in handled all the necessary modifications as to how much was to be spoken to the user. By this point you may be thinking, "Okay, what's the catch?" and sadly, you are not mistaken. The tool only supports up to Firefox 13 and does not always work seamlessly when it comes to navigation within a document; a minor issue, but very annoying. Additionally, after upgrading Firefox you would need to uninstall parts of the plug-in and then reinstall new components if they were even supported. So, to give a long answer to a short question - yes, there is a tool that can read MathML content on a Mac, but it is not the most robust solution and your mileage may vary. Take care, Sean -- Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae From hascherdss at gmail.com Thu Feb 7 15:06:32 2013 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] 32-bit voices on a 64-bit system? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you, one and all! NextUp got back with me and sent me links to recover the voices. BIG sigh of relief! But, Robert, I think I'll have a brownie anyway. If for no other reason than to make the stress headache subside (smile) Thank you again!! I do so appreciate you all! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Doug Hayman wrote: > I'd looked into this recently for a text to speech app I'd gotten for a > participant who cannot speak....while his communication device is out for > repairs. > > From what I'd seen in searching, Windows 7 no longer give you access to >> as >> > many voices as earlier versions did. > > And the vendor of the product wanted $29/voice. The one that comes with > Win 7 is female...the student is male and would like...you guessed it, a > male voice. > > I may not have searched far enough but that was what I found...wasn't > comparing 32 to 64 bit. > > > > Doug Hayman > Technology Specialist > DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) > UW Technology Services > Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > (206) 221-4165 > http://www.washington.edu/doit > > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Heidi Scher wrote: > > Hi all ATHENians! >> >> I've recently 'upgraded' my computer from Win XP to Win 7 64 bit. >> Unfortunately, I can't get the AT&T Mike & Crystal voices to run on the >> new >> machine. Any ideas out there on getting Win 7 to accept Mike & Crystal? >> >> I would greatly appreciate any guidance! >> >> Heidi >> >> +++++++++++++++ >> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC >> Associate Director >> Center for Educational Access >> University of Arkansas >> ARKU 104 >> Fayetteville, AR 72701 >> 479.575.3104 >> 479.575.7445 fax >> 479.575.3646 tdd >> +++++++++++++++ >> >> ______________________________**_________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.**washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.**edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-**list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Thu Feb 7 15:30:13 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (ron@ahead.org) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtBdGhlbl0gU3R1ZGVudHMgd2l0aCBMZWFybmluZyBEaXNhYmlsaXRpZXMgYW5kIFRleHRib29rcyB3aXRoTWF0aA==?= In-Reply-To: <5114309D.1000202@stanford.edu> References: <3bc461791ce4d0dfd1c06482652b15c5@mail.gmail.com><34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A520350@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76B931@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76BB7D@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <5114309D.1000202@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <20130207233013.17232.qmail@s465.sureserver.com> I really wish someone would pick this up. It was probably the best low cost reader for STEM content that I have seen. The Mac issue really needs to be resolved, hope iAuthor can work it out. Ron Stewart > -------Original Message------- > From: Sean J Keegan > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks withMath > Sent: Feb 07 '13 16:54 > > > On a related note, however, has anyone figured out a method > > for making math accessible on a Mac platform? > > Unfortunately, there does not appear to be many options (still).??The > one solution that did work - intermittently, mind you - was the PT > Reader plug-in for Firefox.??This would allow you to open a DTBook.xml > file in Firefox and would read the MathML content natively.??The website > is available at: http://www.cwu.edu/disability-support/pt-reader > > What was so cool about this plug-in was that you could change the level > of verbosity specific to math content to communicate more or less > information about the equations. In other words, some students may > prefer a very brief description of an equation whereas other students > may prefer a more verbose description of the equation.??The plug-in > handled all the necessary modifications as to how much was to be spoken > to the user. > > By this point you may be thinking, "Okay, what's the catch?" and sadly, > you are not mistaken.??The tool only supports up to Firefox 13 and does > not always work seamlessly when it comes to navigation within a > document; a minor issue, but very annoying.??Additionally, after > upgrading Firefox you would need to uninstall parts of the plug-in and > then reinstall new components if they were even supported. > > So, to give a long answer to a short question - yes, there is a tool > that can read MathML content on a Mac, but it is not the most robust > solution and your mileage may vary. > > Take care, > Sean > > -- > Sean Keegan > Associate Director, Assistive Technology > Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University > http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > From ron at ahead.org Thu Feb 7 15:30:13 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (ron@ahead.org) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtBdGhlbl0gU3R1ZGVudHMgd2l0aCBMZWFybmluZyBEaXNhYmlsaXRpZXMgYW5kIFRleHRib29rcyB3aXRoTWF0aA==?= In-Reply-To: <5114309D.1000202@stanford.edu> References: <3bc461791ce4d0dfd1c06482652b15c5@mail.gmail.com><34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A520350@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76B931@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76BB7D@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <5114309D.1000202@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <20130207233013.17232.qmail@s465.sureserver.com> I really wish someone would pick this up. It was probably the best low cost reader for STEM content that I have seen. The Mac issue really needs to be resolved, hope iAuthor can work it out. Ron Stewart > -------Original Message------- > From: Sean J Keegan > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks withMath > Sent: Feb 07 '13 16:54 > > > On a related note, however, has anyone figured out a method > > for making math accessible on a Mac platform? > > Unfortunately, there does not appear to be many options (still).??The > one solution that did work - intermittently, mind you - was the PT > Reader plug-in for Firefox.??This would allow you to open a DTBook.xml > file in Firefox and would read the MathML content natively.??The website > is available at: http://www.cwu.edu/disability-support/pt-reader > > What was so cool about this plug-in was that you could change the level > of verbosity specific to math content to communicate more or less > information about the equations. In other words, some students may > prefer a very brief description of an equation whereas other students > may prefer a more verbose description of the equation.??The plug-in > handled all the necessary modifications as to how much was to be spoken > to the user. > > By this point you may be thinking, "Okay, what's the catch?" and sadly, > you are not mistaken.??The tool only supports up to Firefox 13 and does > not always work seamlessly when it comes to navigation within a > document; a minor issue, but very annoying.??Additionally, after > upgrading Firefox you would need to uninstall parts of the plug-in and > then reinstall new components if they were even supported. > > So, to give a long answer to a short question - yes, there is a tool > that can read MathML content on a Mac, but it is not the most robust > solution and your mileage may vary. > > Take care, > Sean > > -- > Sean Keegan > Associate Director, Assistive Technology > Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University > http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > From paire at temple.edu Thu Feb 7 16:59:16 2013 From: paire at temple.edu (Paul E. Paire) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] EASI Webinar Accessibility to science laboratory classroom In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20130207143036.049ec3e8@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20130207143036.049ec3e8@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: I normally don't cross post someone else's posts but I think this may be relevant to the upcoming Q&A topic on teaching accessibly. -Paul Prof Norm Coombs wrote: EASI free Webinar science courses can be accessible Emerging Trends in the Full Integration of the Blind and Visually Impaired in Science Education Monday February 18 presenter: Cary A. Supalo, Assistant Professor of Chemistry at Illinois State University Times 9 Pacific, 10 Mountain 11 Central and Noon Eastern This presentation will discuss new methodologies being used in science classrooms to promote increased student engagement in the science laboratory classroom for students with visual impairments. Further, new access technology solutions and suggested teaching strategies that have proven to be beneficial to a student with a visual impairment will also be presented. Specifics as to the types of curriculum modifications and their successful implementation in the secondary and post-secondary science laboratory courses will be described. students with disabilities frequently avoid science classes, and schools often discourage those who want to take such courses. This is no longer necessary. Both the faculty and the students need to be aware of the tools and techniques which can bridge this chasm. Read more and register at: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm/#february . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It's never too late to become what you might have been. George Eliot Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com Making Online Teaching Accessible: Inclusive Course Design for Students with Disabilities by Norman Coombs published by Jossey-Bass Oct 10,2010 http://www.josseybass.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470499044.html _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kerscher at montana.com Thu Feb 7 19:27:23 2013 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Production of EPUB 3 Content? In-Reply-To: <511411AC.80803@stanford.edu> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20130131145417.01f5e878@wheresmymailserver.com> <005501ce0164$45fda050$d1f8e0f0$@montana.com> <511411AC.80803@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <001001ce05ac$36a12f90$a3e38eb0$@montana.com> Hi, EPUB 3 has support for MathML, but which reading systems support it is still up in the air. It seems that iBooks has some. We are working on the open source reader under Readium, which Bookshare is supporting. Pipeline 2 supports conversions to EPUB 3. I can put you in touch with developers and the open source efforts. Best George -----Original Message----- From: Sean J Keegan [mailto:skeegan@stanford.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 1:42 PM To: kerscher@montana.com; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Production of EPUB 3 Content? Hi George, In your e-mail, you wrote the following: > Other significant improvements have been introduced since > last major release, based on feedback received from the > DAISY community. This includes rendering of mathematical > equations (with full support for the MathML-in-DAISY profile). > Tobi now also comes with integrated EPUB 3 and DAISY 3 validators, > which can be executed at import and export time. Does this mean that there is support for mathematical equations in ePub 3 with the Tobi tool or is this just referring to the support for MathML in DAISY books? Will there be support for converting DTBook documents with MathML content into ePub 3 files with other DAISY tools? Thanks, Sean -- Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae From petri.1 at osu.edu Thu Feb 7 19:47:18 2013 From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Ken Petri) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks withMath In-Reply-To: <20130207233013.17232.qmail@s465.sureserver.com> References: <3bc461791ce4d0dfd1c06482652b15c5@mail.gmail.com> <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A520350@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76B931@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76BB7D@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <5114309D.1000202@stanford.edu> <20130207233013.17232.qmail@s465.sureserver.com> Message-ID: Definitely agree with Ron on this one. There needs to be a non-MathPlayer dependent/cross platform MathML player available. PTReader uses Charles Chen's Firefox libraries, which I don't think are still being maintained. However, it would be a shame to see the work go to waste. We need the same thing for EPUB3. gh's ReadHear uses MathPlayer on Windows but also claims to support MathML on Mac: http://www.ghbraille.com/software/readhear-mac-instant-download We've liked ReadHear for Windows. Haven't tried it on the Mac, so don't know it's sophistication with MathML. ken -- Ken Petri Program Director, OSU Web Accessibility Center 102D Pomerene Hall, 1760 Neil Avenue, Columbus, Ohio 43210 Office: 614.292.1760 | Mobile: 614.218.1499 | Fax: 614.292.4190 http://wac.osu.edu | petri.1@osu.edu On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 6:30 PM, wrote: > > I really wish someone would pick this up. It was probably the best low > cost reader for STEM content that I > have seen. > > The Mac issue really needs to be resolved, hope iAuthor can work it out. > > Ron Stewart > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Sean J Keegan > > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks > withMath > > Sent: Feb 07 '13 16:54 > > > > > On a related note, however, has anyone figured out a method > > > for making math accessible on a Mac platform? > > > > Unfortunately, there does not appear to be many options (still). The > > one solution that did work - intermittently, mind you - was the PT > > Reader plug-in for Firefox. This would allow you to open a DTBook.xml > > file in Firefox and would read the MathML content natively. The website > > is available at: http://www.cwu.edu/disability-support/pt-reader > > > > What was so cool about this plug-in was that you could change the level > > of verbosity specific to math content to communicate more or less > > information about the equations. In other words, some students may > > prefer a very brief description of an equation whereas other students > > may prefer a more verbose description of the equation. The plug-in > > handled all the necessary modifications as to how much was to be spoken > > to the user. > > > > By this point you may be thinking, "Okay, what's the catch?" and sadly, > > you are not mistaken. The tool only supports up to Firefox 13 and does > > not always work seamlessly when it comes to navigation within a > > document; a minor issue, but very annoying. Additionally, after > > upgrading Firefox you would need to uninstall parts of the plug-in and > > then reinstall new components if they were even supported. > > > > So, to give a long answer to a short question - yes, there is a tool > > that can read MathML content on a Mac, but it is not the most robust > > solution and your mileage may vary. > > > > Take care, > > Sean > > > > -- > > Sean Keegan > > Associate Director, Assistive Technology > > Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University > > http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae > > _______________________________________________ > > athen-list mailing list > > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paire at temple.edu Fri Feb 8 04:32:51 2013 From: paire at temple.edu (Paul E. Paire) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] EASI Webinar Accessibility to science laboratory classroom In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20130207143036.049ec3e8@pop.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20130207143036.049ec3e8@pop.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry for the previous post, I meant to do a forward, not reply all. -Paul On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:42 PM, "Prof Norm Coombs" wrote: > EASI free Webinar science courses can be accessible > Emerging Trends in the Full Integration of the Blind and Visually Impaired in Science Education > Monday February 18 > presenter: Cary A. Supalo, Assistant Professor of Chemistry at Illinois State University > Times 9 Pacific, 10 Mountain 11 Central and Noon Eastern > > This presentation will discuss new methodologies being used in science classrooms to promote increased student engagement in the science laboratory classroom for students with visual impairments. Further, new access technology solutions and suggested teaching strategies that have proven to be beneficial to a student with a visual impairment will also be presented. Specifics as to the types of curriculum modifications and their successful implementation in the secondary and post-secondary science laboratory courses will be described. > > students with disabilities frequently avoid science classes, and schools often discourage those who want to take such courses. This is no longer necessary. > > Both the faculty and the students need to be aware of the tools and techniques which can bridge this chasm. > > Read more and register at: > > http://easi.cc/clinic.htm/#february > > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > It's never too late to become what you might have been. George Eliot > Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve > Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com > > Making Online Teaching Accessible: Inclusive Course Design for Students with Disabilities by Norman Coombs published by Jossey-Bass Oct 10,2010 > http://www.josseybass.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470499044.html > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From skeegan at stanford.edu Fri Feb 8 15:53:43 2013 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks withMath In-Reply-To: References: <3bc461791ce4d0dfd1c06482652b15c5@mail.gmail.com> <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A520350@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76B931@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76BB7D@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <5114309D.1000202@stanford.edu> <20130207233013.17232.qmail@s465.sureserver.com> Message-ID: <51159007.3020905@stanford.edu> I had an older version of the Read Hear player for Mac that did not do MathML, but the latest version seems to be very robust. You can play a DAISY book with either the book's TTS or the OS X voice and both seem to work well. If you are using the book's TTS audio, it does say "mathematical expression" at the beginning and end of each equation. At least I think it is saying "mathematical expression". For some reason, the book's audio TTS sounds like it's had a long night drinking at the bar and the audio is not so intelligible. The math is good, it's just the very beginning and end of the equation. The OS X TTS voice Alex is very responsive and seems to handle a variety of math equations. So far, I have tried basic and intermediate algebraic equations and it seems to handle the markup just fine. Overall, nice support. Will try with some of the other free OS X voices. I have found that the application does not do well with a math-based DTBook.xml file. If using a DAISY book, then all is good, but using DTBook.xml files seems to break the math. I used DTBook.xml files as generated from the Save-as-Daisy plug-in for MS Word. If you are creating DAISY books with MathML content and the student is using a Mac, then Read Hear is the way to go at this point. ePub support is listed as "soon" and there is no indication as to what version of ePub or if that implementation will support math content. Take care, Sean -- Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae On 2/7/13 7:47 PM, Ken Petri wrote: > Definitely agree with Ron on this one. There needs to be a > non-MathPlayer dependent/cross platform MathML player available. > PTReader uses Charles Chen's Firefox libraries, which I don't think are > still being maintained. However, it would be a shame to see the work go > to waste. We need the same thing for EPUB3. > > gh's ReadHear uses MathPlayer on Windows but also claims to support > MathML on Mac: > > http://www.ghbraille.com/software/readhear-mac-instant-download > > We've liked ReadHear for Windows. Haven't tried it on the Mac, so don't > know it's sophistication with MathML. > > > > > ken > -- > Ken Petri > Program Director, OSU Web Accessibility Center > 102D Pomerene Hall, 1760 Neil Avenue, Columbus, Ohio 43210 > Office: 614.292.1760 | Mobile: 614.218.1499 | Fax: 614.292.4190 > http://wac.osu.edu | petri.1@osu.edu > > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 6:30 PM, > > wrote: > > > I really wish someone would pick this up. It was probably the best > low cost reader for STEM content that I > have seen. > > The Mac issue really needs to be resolved, hope iAuthor can work it out. > > Ron Stewart > From ron at ahead.org Sat Feb 9 06:27:28 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks withMath In-Reply-To: <51159007.3020905@stanford.edu> References: <3bc461791ce4d0dfd1c06482652b15c5@mail.gmail.com> <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A520350@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76B931@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76BB7D@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <5114309D.1000202@stanford.edu> <20130207233013.17232.qmail@s465.sureserver.com> <51159007.3020905@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <009c01ce06d1$97152540$c53f6fc0$@ahead.org> Sean have you contacted Gh about this problem? Have you had a similar experience with the Windows version of the problem. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 5:54 PM To: petri.1@osu.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks withMath I had an older version of the Read Hear player for Mac that did not do MathML, but the latest version seems to be very robust. You can play a DAISY book with either the book's TTS or the OS X voice and both seem to work well. If you are using the book's TTS audio, it does say "mathematical expression" at the beginning and end of each equation. At least I think it is saying "mathematical expression". For some reason, the book's audio TTS sounds like it's had a long night drinking at the bar and the audio is not so intelligible. The math is good, it's just the very beginning and end of the equation. The OS X TTS voice Alex is very responsive and seems to handle a variety of math equations. So far, I have tried basic and intermediate algebraic equations and it seems to handle the markup just fine. Overall, nice support. Will try with some of the other free OS X voices. I have found that the application does not do well with a math-based DTBook.xml file. If using a DAISY book, then all is good, but using DTBook.xml files seems to break the math. I used DTBook.xml files as generated from the Save-as-Daisy plug-in for MS Word. If you are creating DAISY books with MathML content and the student is using a Mac, then Read Hear is the way to go at this point. ePub support is listed as "soon" and there is no indication as to what version of ePub or if that implementation will support math content. Take care, Sean -- Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae On 2/7/13 7:47 PM, Ken Petri wrote: > Definitely agree with Ron on this one. There needs to be a > non-MathPlayer dependent/cross platform MathML player available. > PTReader uses Charles Chen's Firefox libraries, which I don't think > are still being maintained. However, it would be a shame to see the > work go to waste. We need the same thing for EPUB3. > > gh's ReadHear uses MathPlayer on Windows but also claims to support > MathML on Mac: > > http://www.ghbraille.com/software/readhear-mac-instant-download > > We've liked ReadHear for Windows. Haven't tried it on the Mac, so > don't know it's sophistication with MathML. > > > > > ken > -- > Ken Petri > Program Director, OSU Web Accessibility Center 102D Pomerene Hall, > 1760 Neil Avenue, Columbus, Ohio 43210 > Office: 614.292.1760 | Mobile: 614.218.1499 | Fax: 614.292.4190 > http://wac.osu.edu | petri.1@osu.edu > > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 6:30 PM, > > wrote: > > > I really wish someone would pick this up. It was probably the best > low cost reader for STEM content that I > have seen. > > The Mac issue really needs to be resolved, hope iAuthor can work it out. > > Ron Stewart > _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From jsuttondc at gmail.com Sun Feb 10 11:37:09 2013 From: jsuttondc at gmail.com (Jennifer Sutton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Creating accessible eBooks - RNIB Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20130210113022.05cc3540@wheresmymailserver.com> Greetings, Athen: Given recent discussion about ebooks, I thought some of you might find this of interest. Jennifer Creating accessible eBooks - RNIB: http://www.rnib.org.uk/professionals/solutionsforbusiness/publishing/publishertechnical/ebooksaccessible/Pages/accessible_ebook_creation.aspx From rskipper1 at udayton.edu Mon Feb 11 10:56:54 2013 From: rskipper1 at udayton.edu (Rebecca Skipper) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Establishing Campus wide Infrastructure for Assistive Technology Applications Message-ID: University of Dayton is discussing the possibility of providing campus wide access to ZoomText, JAWS, and Wynn. I am interested in discussing the process and steps involved in providing campus wide access to these applications. Can you contact me off list? I appreciate your time and insight. -- Best Regards, Rebecca Rebecca Skipper Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Learning Resources (OLR) Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Room: RL 023 B Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 TTY: 937-229-2059 (available for individuals who are deaf and hard-of hearing) Email: rskipper1@udayton.edu On the Web: go.udayton.edu/learning CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this electronic message is confidential and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail or any of its components is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please "reply" to the sender. From skeegan at stanford.edu Mon Feb 11 11:11:22 2013 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks withMath In-Reply-To: <009c01ce06d1$97152540$c53f6fc0$@ahead.org> References: <3bc461791ce4d0dfd1c06482652b15c5@mail.gmail.com> <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A520350@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76B931@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A76BB7D@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <5114309D.1000202@stanford.edu> <20130207233013.17232.qmail@s465.sureserver.com> <51159007.3020905@stanford.edu> <009c01ce06d1$97152540$c53f6fc0$@ahead.org> Message-ID: <5119425A.4020902@stanford.edu> I am not sure if this is a specific problem with Read Hear or if the recorded TTS voice was not great. I will have to test with a better SAPI 5 voice later today. From past testing, I have found nearly all the DAISY readers that support MathML seem to say "mathematical expression" just prior to and following the math equation when using the recorded TTS; some are more intelligible than others. I was surprised, pleasantly, to find that you did not get this additional text information when using the OS X voice Alex. Take care, sean On 2/9/13 6:27 AM, Ron Stewart wrote: > Sean have you contacted Gh about this problem? Have you had a similar > experience with the Windows version of the problem. > > Ron Stewart > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean J > Keegan > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 5:54 PM > To: petri.1@osu.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Students with Learning Disabilities and Textbooks > withMath > > I had an older version of the Read Hear player for Mac that did not do > MathML, but the latest version seems to be very robust. You can play a > DAISY book with either the book's TTS or the OS X voice and both seem to > work well. > > If you are using the book's TTS audio, it does say "mathematical expression" > at the beginning and end of each equation. At least I think it is saying > "mathematical expression". For some reason, the book's audio TTS sounds > like it's had a long night drinking at the bar and the audio is not so > intelligible. The math is good, it's just the very beginning and end of the > equation. > > The OS X TTS voice Alex is very responsive and seems to handle a variety of > math equations. So far, I have tried basic and intermediate algebraic > equations and it seems to handle the markup just fine. > Overall, nice support. Will try with some of the other free OS X voices. > > I have found that the application does not do well with a math-based > DTBook.xml file. If using a DAISY book, then all is good, but using > DTBook.xml files seems to break the math. I used DTBook.xml files as > generated from the Save-as-Daisy plug-in for MS Word. > > If you are creating DAISY books with MathML content and the student is using > a Mac, then Read Hear is the way to go at this point. ePub support is > listed as "soon" and there is no indication as to what version of ePub or if > that implementation will support math content. > > Take care, > Sean > -- > Sean Keegan > Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - > Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae > > On 2/7/13 7:47 PM, Ken Petri wrote: >> Definitely agree with Ron on this one. There needs to be a >> non-MathPlayer dependent/cross platform MathML player available. >> PTReader uses Charles Chen's Firefox libraries, which I don't think >> are still being maintained. However, it would be a shame to see the >> work go to waste. We need the same thing for EPUB3. >> >> gh's ReadHear uses MathPlayer on Windows but also claims to support >> MathML on Mac: >> >> http://www.ghbraille.com/software/readhear-mac-instant-download >> >> We've liked ReadHear for Windows. Haven't tried it on the Mac, so >> don't know it's sophistication with MathML. >> >> >> >> >> ken >> -- >> Ken Petri >> Program Director, OSU Web Accessibility Center 102D Pomerene Hall, >> 1760 Neil Avenue, Columbus, Ohio 43210 >> Office: 614.292.1760 | Mobile: 614.218.1499 | Fax: 614.292.4190 >> http://wac.osu.edu | petri.1@osu.edu >> >> From foreigntype at cox.net Tue Feb 12 11:46:22 2013 From: foreigntype at cox.net (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning a Pencast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007401ce0959$a3236bf0$e96a43d0$@cox.net> >From something like a smart pen? If that's it, it's simple. There is an inexpensive piece of handwriting conversion software that turns the handwritten notes to typewritten notes. These are still linked to the pens' display of the writing + to the audio. Is this what you're looking for? If so, Jayme Johnson at HTTCU has some good documentation on techniques etc. of using the smartpens. Contact him directly for more info on this. Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant & Multi-Language Alt-Media Production The Foreign Type foreigntype@gmail.com Portland OR 480-984-0034 -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:50 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Captioning a Pencast I just got a request to caption pencasts created by a chemestry professor. Has anyone come across a good informational resource to do this? I figured I would have to separate the audio and process it but was looking for something simpler and better. thanks Jeff Cleveland State _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From burke at ucla.edu Tue Feb 12 16:29:50 2013 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Job Posting: Director, UCLA Office for Students with Disabilities Message-ID: <201302130029.r1D0To41019009@mail.ucla.edu> Hi everyone, Sorry I didn't know about this before, but my campus's OSD Director position has been posted. (Management & disab. services experience required): http://weba.im/uclaosd Thanks much, Patrick -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke@ucla.edu Location: 4909 Math Science Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu From vasquez at sbcc.edu Thu Feb 14 11:01:32 2013 From: vasquez at sbcc.edu (Laurie Vasquez) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Coursera In-Reply-To: <83F43AAD78907C4F919AFB7E5E92B4FDB2DA2A950C@EXC2.ad.colorado.edu> References: <83F43AAD78907C4F919AFB7E5E92B4FDB2DA2A950C@EXC2.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: Going through unread e-mails... found this - Senate Task Force Report on Campus Participation in the Coursera Initiativehttp://www.senate.illinois.edu/120705courserataskforce.pdf MOOCS are our radar. Laurie On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Catherine M. Stager Kilcommons < Catherine.Stager-kilcommons@colorado.edu> wrote: > Happy New Year to all! > > We have been asked to comment on the ADA responsibilities that the > University would be incurring in a contract with Coursera. 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Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Room: RL 023 B Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 TTY: 937-229-2059 (available for individuals who are deaf and hard-of hearing) Email: rskipper1@udayton.edu On the Web: go.udayton.edu/learning CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this electronic message is confidential and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail or any of its components is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please "reply" to the sender. From nettiet at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 16:11:27 2013 From: nettiet at gmail.com (Nettie Fischer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Affordable OCR Packages for Faculty and Staff In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am not sure if you are in an educational setting but if you are, you can get Acrobat Professional in the $140.00 range which is a pretty good price. Nettie Fischer, ATP On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Rebecca Skipper wrote: > I am looking for an affordable Optical Character Recognition (OCR) > package that our disability services office can recommend to faculty > and staff to promote the creation of accessible PDF documents. > I am looking for a package with more features than OneNote but less > expensive than Acrobat Professional or Abby Fine Reader. > I appreciate your time and recommendations. > > -- > Best Regards, > Rebecca > > Rebecca Skipper > Assistive Technology Specialist > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Room: RL 023 B > > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > TTY: 937-229-2059 (available for individuals who are deaf and hard-of > hearing) > Email: rskipper1@udayton.edu > On the Web: go.udayton.edu/learning > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > The information contained in this electronic message is confidential and > intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the > reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail or > any of its components is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > email in error, please "reply" to the sender. > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- *Nettie T. Fischer, ATP Assistive Technology Professional* *RESNA Certified* *California Certified NPA Nettiet, ATP Consultants www.nettietatpconsultants.com * *[916] 686-1860 FAX (916) 704-1456 Cell* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Thu Feb 14 16:24:34 2013 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Affordable OCR Packages for Faculty and Staff In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <511D8042.4080104@stanford.edu> > I am looking for an affordable Optical Character Recognition (OCR) > package that our disability services office can recommend to faculty > and staff to promote the creation of accessible PDF documents. Hi Rebecca, You have raised an excellent question that I have found opens a very large box of more questions. I have a few to start the conversation: - What are the input formats? MS Word? PDF? Scanned images? - What amount of formatting/editing, if any, would be done post-production? - What output formats do you want? PDF? Others? - What types of documents do you expect faculty/staff to process? Math or just text? What about documents with images/graphs? - What tools do you expect students will use to interact with the documents? Any specific AT applications? Mobile devices? There are certainly options, but it depends on what your larger goals may be in terms of outcomes. If you could provide a bit more information, then it would be easier to provide more relevant feedback. That being said...while I think there is value to providing instruction to faculty and staff about how to create accessible PDF documents, one significant challenge is achieving a useful level of participation from said individuals. Specifically around PDF documents, there are limitations as to what you can and cannot do to improve accessibility in a document; the term "accessible PDF" is rather nebulous and may not really provide the level of accessibility you are seeking. Take care, sean -- Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae From foreigntype at cox.net Thu Feb 14 16:33:17 2013 From: foreigntype at cox.net (Me) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Affordable OCR Packages for Faculty and Staff In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <72b22a33-4f10-4eba-beed-fd78d46610d3@blur> Try NITRO pro. It is very cost-effective & efficient. You can get a trial version of Nitro. My staff uses it for quick OCR conversions. Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant The Foreign Type foreigntype@gmail.com Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Rebecca Skipper To: athen-list Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2013, 23:35:56 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Athen] Affordable OCR Packages for Faculty and Staff I am looking for an affordable Optical Character Recognition (OCR) package that our disability services office can recommend to faculty and staff to promote the creation of accessible PDF documents. I am looking for a package with more features than OneNote but less expensive than Acrobat Professional or Abby Fine Reader. I appreciate your time and recommendations. -- Best Regards, Rebecca Rebecca Skipper Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Learning Resources (OLR) Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Room: RL 023 B Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 TTY: 937-229-2059 (available for individuals who are deaf and hard-of hearing) Email: rskipper1@udayton.edu On the Web: go.udayton.edu/learning CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this electronic message is confidential and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail or any of its components is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please "reply" to the sender. _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Fri Feb 15 06:11:18 2013 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Affordable OCR Packages for Faculty and Staff In-Reply-To: <72b22a33-4f10-4eba-beed-fd78d46610d3@blur> References: <72b22a33-4f10-4eba-beed-fd78d46610d3@blur> Message-ID: You may want to check with the person that does purchasing for your campus IT department. We get pricing for Adobe Acrobat Pro XI for $68.00. It used to be $40 and has recently gone up. Our contract is with Adobe for purchases through CDWG. It is not the best for OCR and not the easiest to process documents with but it does a pretty good job. Because of the pricing it is what I recommend to our departments and faculty. It states in our purchase info that the license is good for 2 installs; office and if necessary a home computer. Jeff On 2/14/13, Me wrote: > Try NITRO pro. It is very cost-effective & efficient. You can get a trial > version of Nitro. My staff uses it for quick OCR conversions. > > Wink > Wink Harner > Accessibility Consultant > The Foreign Type > foreigntype@gmail.com > > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless > > -----Original message----- > From: Rebecca Skipper > To: athen-list > Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2013, 23:35:56 GMT+00:00 > Subject: [Athen] Affordable OCR Packages for Faculty and Staff > > I am looking for an affordable Optical Character Recognition (OCR) > package that our disability services office can recommend to faculty > and staff to promote the creation of accessible PDF documents. > I am looking for a package with more features than OneNote but less > expensive than Acrobat Professional or Abby Fine Reader. > I appreciate your time and recommendations. > > -- > Best Regards, > Rebecca > > Rebecca Skipper > Assistive Technology Specialist > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Room: RL 023 B > > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > TTY: 937-229-2059 (available for individuals who are deaf and hard-of > hearing) > Email: rskipper1@udayton.edu > On the Web: go.udayton.edu/learning > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > The information contained in this electronic message is confidential and > intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the > reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail or > any of its components is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > email in error, please "reply" to the sender. > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > From jbailey at uoregon.edu Tue Feb 19 09:56:13 2013 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Sensus Access? Message-ID: Hello All, Is anyone using SensusAccess for conversions to PDF? I've tried it and seems pretty good. I'm thinking low volume here. Mostly when a student gets a pic only PDF and would like to OCR it independently. I'm interested in your feedback. Thanks, James -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rskipper1 at udayton.edu Tue Feb 19 10:02:54 2013 From: rskipper1 at udayton.edu (Rebecca Skipper) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Free or Low cost OCR Options for Faculty and Staff Message-ID: The University of Dayton's Disability Services Office is seeking free or low cost (less than $100) OCR packages for faculty and staff to encourage the creation of accessible PDF documents. Are there free or low cost OCR software which will help faculty tag PDF documents? I've seen several free OCR packages but they do not mention support for tagging PDF documents. Currently, I know Microsoft Word supports conversion of documents to PDF and generating tags from predefined styles in Word. However, most documents are created from scanned images. Faculty and staff may not purchase OmniPage, Acrobat Professional, or Abby Fine Reader. Thank you for your time and input.-- Best Regards, Rebecca Rebecca Skipper Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Learning Resources (OLR) Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Room: RL 023 B Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 TTY: 937-229-2059 (available for individuals who are deaf and hard-of hearing) Email: rskipper1@udayton.edu On the Web: go.udayton.edu/learning CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this electronic message is confidential and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail or any of its components is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please "reply" to the sender. From nettiet at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 10:25:04 2013 From: nettiet at gmail.com (Nettie Fischer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Sensus Access? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi James, Have you looked at cutepdf? It is a virtual printer that locates itself in the printer drop down menu. All you need to do is select print, select cutepdf and the file will be printed in a pdf format. Oh yes, it is free - and the user does not have to go to the internet and/or retrieve the document in email - www.*cutepdf*.com Nettie's nickel On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:56 AM, James Bailey wrote: > Hello All,**** > > ** ** > > Is anyone using SensusAccess for conversions to PDF? I?ve tried it and > seems pretty good. I?m thinking low volume here. Mostly when a student gets > a pic only PDF and would like to OCR it independently. I?m interested in > your feedback.**** > > ** ** > > Thanks,**** > > ** ** > > James**** > > ** ** > > **** > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- *Nettie T. Fischer, ATP Assistive Technology Professional* *RESNA Certified* *California Certified NPA Nettiet, ATP Consultants www.nettietatpconsultants.com * *[916] 686-1860 FAX (916) 704-1456 Cell* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Tue Feb 19 11:07:03 2013 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Sensus Access? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5123CD57.9090705@stanford.edu> > Is anyone using SensusAccess for conversions to PDF? > I?ve tried it and seems pretty good. SensusAccess (or Robobraille) is the engine that we use under the hood for our SCRIBE system. While we use Abbyy Finereader Corporate, the OCR functionality provided by SensusAccess is the Abbyy Recognition Server. It works great for the exact situation you describe - i.e., when a student gets an image-only PDF document. Documents that are highly structured or have multiple languages do not always convert well, but overall, it gets the job done. I believe the PDF output for the SensusAccess tool is set as a tagged PDF document. It does not automatically add headings or image descriptions, but at least the reading order can be controlled. Take care, Sean -- Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae From skeegan at stanford.edu Tue Feb 19 11:12:33 2013 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Sensus Access? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5123CEA1.5000502@stanford.edu> Hi Nettie, Does CutePDF provide OCR support? I was under the impression that it did not. Converting to PDF is one solution, but part of the issue is getting logical text from image-based PDFs. Take care, Sean -- Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae On 2/19/13 10:25 AM, Nettie Fischer wrote: > Hi James, > > Have you looked at cutepdf? It is a virtual printer that locates itself > in the printer drop down menu. All you need to do is select print, > select cutepdf and the file will be printed in a pdf format. Oh yes, it > is free - and the user does not have to go to the internet and/or > retrieve the document in email - www.*cutepdf*.com > > Nettie's nickel > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:56 AM, James Bailey > wrote: > > Hello All,____ > > __ __ > > Is anyone using SensusAccess for conversions to PDF? I?ve tried it > and seems pretty good. I?m thinking low volume here. Mostly when a > student gets a pic only PDF and would like to OCR it independently. > I?m interested in your feedback.____ > > __ __ > > Thanks,____ > > __ __ > > James____ From Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU Thu Feb 21 12:24:27 2013 From: Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU (Susan Kelmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Omnipage 17 recent issues Message-ID: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A538076B46D0AE5E@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Over the last several days, every one of our lab computers running Omnipage 17 has had a problem. When trying to open Omnipage, an error occurs: "The action cannot be completed because the other program is busy. Choose "Switch To" to activate the other program and correct the problem." When you click "switch to" it just pops up the start menu. The other choices are retry, and cancel is greyed out. Ultimately, all you can do is bring up task manager and end it. Omnipage will not run, and the error will not close. Our IT department is blaming recent MS updates and suggested we restore to a previous time, which we cannot do because the image they created for these machines doesn't have restore points enabled. Nuance says it's a server issue on our end. Either way, we are getting nowhere. I've taken one of the machines and uninstalled all of the recent updates, which hasn't solved the problem. We can't be the only campus experiencing the issue if this is a Windows Update problem. We are running Windows7, the Omnis are individually installed, not a network license. Any advice/suggestions on how to fix this? We are dead in the water not being able to run Omnipage! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhayman at u.washington.edu Thu Feb 21 12:39:20 2013 From: dhayman at u.washington.edu (Doug Hayman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Omnipage 17 recent issues In-Reply-To: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A538076B46D0AE5E@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A538076B46D0AE5E@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: Can you install and run Process Explorer: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx and perhaps also AutoRuns http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902 ...to kill off questionable processes and see if that frees up OmniPage? Doug Hayman Technology Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Susan Kelmer wrote: > Over the last several days, every one of our lab computers running Omnipage 17 has had a problem. When trying to open Omnipage, an error occurs: > > "The action cannot be completed because the other program is busy. Choose "Switch To" to activate the other program and correct the problem." > > When you click "switch to" it just pops up the start menu. The other choices are retry, and cancel is greyed out. Ultimately, all you can do is bring up task manager and end it. Omnipage will not run, and the error will not close. > > Our IT department is blaming recent MS updates and suggested we restore to a previous time, which we cannot do because the image they created for these machines doesn't have restore points enabled. Nuance says it's a server issue on our end. Either way, we are getting nowhere. I've taken one of the machines and uninstalled all of the recent updates, which hasn't solved the problem. We can't be the only campus experiencing the issue if this is a Windows Update problem. > > We are running Windows7, the Omnis are individually installed, not a network license. Any advice/suggestions on how to fix this? We are dead in the water not being able to run Omnipage! > > Susan Kelmer > Alternate Format Coordinator > Disability Services > University of Colorado > 303-735-4836 > > From petteysp at pdx.edu Thu Feb 21 13:02:22 2013 From: petteysp at pdx.edu (Phyllis Petteys) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] software for AltFormats students Message-ID: <51268B5E.50407@pdx.edu> Hi We are looking into making software available to Alt Formats students that will read PDFs (in the event they are not already using a screen reader) available for both Mac and PC. I've talked to some of you individually, but if you can weigh in on what you are using I'd appreciate it! Right now we show the students NaturalReaders and/or the reader in Adobe. Thanks! -- Phyllis Petteys Assistive Technology Center Portland State University Smith Memorial Student Union Room 116 Portland State University PO Box 751 Portland, OR 97207-0751 (503) 725-8395 (503) 725-4103 (fax) From PLester at admin.fsu.edu Thu Feb 21 15:00:13 2013 From: PLester at admin.fsu.edu (Lester, Patti) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] software for AltFormats students In-Reply-To: <51268B5E.50407@pdx.edu> References: <51268B5E.50407@pdx.edu> Message-ID: <9660B13B9DFB2D4291E23B4CEA2E092E0B5A2C08@fsu-exch-nwr02.fsu.edu> We, at Florida State University, use the Read & Write Gold software sold by Texthelp. We offer this to all students across campus for both PC and Mac users. It has a PDF ReadAloud tool that includes a point and click feature which is real nice because it lets you control the area of the PDF document you want read. Patti Lester, MLS, AT Lab Coordinator Student Disability Resource Center Florida State University 874 Traditions Way 108 Student Services Building Tallahassee, Florida 32306-4167 (850) 644-5532 __________________________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail (including the attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C.?? 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please contact me that you have received the message in error, and then destroy it. Thank You. -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Phyllis Petteys Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] software for AltFormats students Hi We are looking into making software available to Alt Formats students that will read PDFs (in the event they are not already using a screen reader) available for both Mac and PC. I've talked to some of you individually, but if you can weigh in on what you are using I'd appreciate it! Right now we show the students NaturalReaders and/or the reader in Adobe. Thanks! -- Phyllis Petteys Assistive Technology Center Portland State University Smith Memorial Student Union Room 116 Portland State University PO Box 751 Portland, OR 97207-0751 (503) 725-8395 (503) 725-4103 (fax) _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From foreigntype at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 16:39:11 2013 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Omnipage 17 recent issues In-Reply-To: References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A538076B46D0AE5E@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <008801ce1095$09c32ac0$1d498040$@gmail.com> Doug et al, I ran into serious problems with Dragon (another Nuance favorite of mine!) with the same error message freeze when using with Adobe Products. Have you tested Process Explorer &/or Auto Runs with Dragon? Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant & Multi-Language Alt-Media Production The Foreign Type foreigntype@gmail.com Portland OR 480-984-0034 -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Doug Hayman Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:39 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Omnipage 17 recent issues Can you install and run Process Explorer: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx and perhaps also AutoRuns http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902 ...to kill off questionable processes and see if that frees up OmniPage? Doug Hayman Technology Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Susan Kelmer wrote: > Over the last several days, every one of our lab computers running Omnipage 17 has had a problem. When trying to open Omnipage, an error occurs: > > "The action cannot be completed because the other program is busy. Choose "Switch To" to activate the other program and correct the problem." > > When you click "switch to" it just pops up the start menu. The other choices are retry, and cancel is greyed out. Ultimately, all you can do is bring up task manager and end it. Omnipage will not run, and the error will not close. > > Our IT department is blaming recent MS updates and suggested we restore to a previous time, which we cannot do because the image they created for these machines doesn't have restore points enabled. Nuance says it's a server issue on our end. Either way, we are getting nowhere. I've taken one of the machines and uninstalled all of the recent updates, which hasn't solved the problem. We can't be the only campus experiencing the issue if this is a Windows Update problem. > > We are running Windows7, the Omnis are individually installed, not a network license. Any advice/suggestions on how to fix this? We are dead in the water not being able to run Omnipage! > > Susan Kelmer > Alternate Format Coordinator > Disability Services > University of Colorado > 303-735-4836 > > _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From foreigntype at cox.net Thu Feb 21 17:14:38 2013 From: foreigntype at cox.net (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] software for AltFormats students In-Reply-To: <51268B5E.50407@pdx.edu> References: <51268B5E.50407@pdx.edu> Message-ID: <00bf01ce1099$fcad2750$f60775f0$@cox.net> Hi All, We had an open site license for Read & Write Gold at my previous college and permission to provide flash drive versions to students/faculty on a per-term for use at home or off-site. It was installed in the testing center too. However, that was a software investment for the whole college. It was expensive, but worth it for what we needed and how we used it. For students to access on the fly, free-to-low cost good PDF reading software is the way to go. Unless you WANT to buy software (;>) Heidi Scher & I put together a reasonable list of free/no/low cost apps for our AHG workshop last fall. I can post the link or you all can go to the AHG website and access our info from last November's conference. Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant & Multi-Language Alt-Media Production The Foreign Type foreigntype@gmail.com Portland OR 480-984-0034 -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Phyllis Petteys Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] software for AltFormats students Hi We are looking into making software available to Alt Formats students that will read PDFs (in the event they are not already using a screen reader) available for both Mac and PC. I've talked to some of you individually, but if you can weigh in on what you are using I'd appreciate it! Right now we show the students NaturalReaders and/or the reader in Adobe. Thanks! -- Phyllis Petteys Assistive Technology Center Portland State University Smith Memorial Student Union Room 116 Portland State University PO Box 751 Portland, OR 97207-0751 (503) 725-8395 (503) 725-4103 (fax) _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From ron at ahead.org Fri Feb 22 07:13:28 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Pearson job posting for Accessibility and Mobile Software Specialist In-Reply-To: <4132115EAD4CC141A102B8B35C6636210C5331BE@mailserver3.cast.org> References: <4EE244FBA72EB947B5FC0CD295BAD84A03A289FC@usiowace3mx09.PEROOT.COM> <4132115EAD4CC141A102B8B35C6636210C5331BE@mailserver3.cast.org> Message-ID: <001d01ce110f$2b1178b0$81346a10$@ahead.org> Sounds like an interesting position. http://jobs.pearson.com/job/Austin-Accessibility-and-Mobile-Software-Special ist-Job-TX-73301/2423102/ This position would be located in our Austin location. I thought you might know of some possible leads and/or could post this to appropriate groups outside Pearson. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu Fri Feb 22 12:32:51 2013 From: larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu (Larry Kiser) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] software for AltFormats students In-Reply-To: <51268B5E.50407@pdx.edu> References: <51268B5E.50407@pdx.edu> Message-ID: Phyllis: We maintain 30 Kurzweil 3000 Web licenses. That allows us to provide students with courtesy copies of K3000 for any computer they have, either PC or Mac. There is also a free Firefly app for the iPad. Kurzweil 3000 will open PDF, Word, RTF, and Powerpoint slides using the Kesi Virtual Printer installed on the computer. Placing materials in the Library (Kurzweil's cloud drive) through the main application students can log in on any computer with K3000 and open documents from the Library. Alternatively they can open a web browser to the Firefly site, log on just as they would with Kurzweil or the iPad Firefly app, and access the documents. A reader tool bar opens up. All provide good navigation and reading support. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 -----Original Message----- From: Phyllis Petteys [mailto:petteysp@pdx.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] software for AltFormats students Hi We are looking into making software available to Alt Formats students that will read PDFs (in the event they are not already using a screen reader) available for both Mac and PC. I've talked to some of you individually, but if you can weigh in on what you are using I'd appreciate it! Right now we show the students NaturalReaders and/or the reader in Adobe. Thanks! -- Phyllis Petteys Assistive Technology Center Portland State University Smith Memorial Student Union Room 116 Portland State University PO Box 751 Portland, OR 97207-0751 (503) 725-8395 (503) 725-4103 (fax) ________________________________ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. From JElmer at vcccd.edu Fri Feb 22 12:51:20 2013 From: JElmer at vcccd.edu (John Elmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] software for AltFormats students In-Reply-To: References: <51268B5E.50407@pdx.edu> Message-ID: We provide K3000 web licenses (PC and Mac) through our department, as described below. We also have Read and Write Gold (PC) installed on all 360 computers in our main computer lab. We generally provide edited files for K3000, especially if the book has complex formatting. Otherwise, the raw converted PDF is largely unusable and does not meet the standard of equal/equally effective for the accommodation. John F. Elmer Alternate Media Specialist Educational Assistance Center (DSP&S) Ventura College 4667 Telegraph Road Ventura, CA 93003 805.654.6400, x1278 -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 12:33 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] software for AltFormats students Phyllis: We maintain 30 Kurzweil 3000 Web licenses. That allows us to provide students with courtesy copies of K3000 for any computer they have, either PC or Mac. There is also a free Firefly app for the iPad. Kurzweil 3000 will open PDF, Word, RTF, and Powerpoint slides using the Kesi Virtual Printer installed on the computer. Placing materials in the Library (Kurzweil's cloud drive) through the main application students can log in on any computer with K3000 and open documents from the Library. Alternatively they can open a web browser to the Firefly site, log on just as they would with Kurzweil or the iPad Firefly app, and access the documents. A reader tool bar opens up. All provide good navigation and reading support. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 -----Original Message----- From: Phyllis Petteys [mailto:petteysp@pdx.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] software for AltFormats students Hi We are looking into making software available to Alt Formats students that will read PDFs (in the event they are not already using a screen reader) available for both Mac and PC. I've talked to some of you individually, but if you can weigh in on what you are using I'd appreciate it! Right now we show the students NaturalReaders and/or the reader in Adobe. Thanks! -- Phyllis Petteys Assistive Technology Center Portland State University Smith Memorial Student Union Room 116 Portland State University PO Box 751 Portland, OR 97207-0751 (503) 725-8395 (503) 725-4103 (fax) ________________________________ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu Mon Feb 25 09:06:39 2013 From: Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu (Kenneth Elkind) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] problems with Windows 7 and Windows Magnifier Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C78525A@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> I am having problems with Windows 7 and Windows Magnifier. When Windows 7 updates the Windows Magnifier goes back from being full screen to being docked. There seems to be a problem between the Windows Mirror Image and Aeros (that is found and controlled by personalization setting) Do window 7 updates change the personal setting? Has anybody experience this problem before? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Mon Feb 25 09:18:41 2013 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] problems with Windows 7 and Windows Magnifier In-Reply-To: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C78525A@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C78525A@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: <000d01ce137c$29133480$7b399d80$@karlencommunications.com> I use Magnifier with Win 7 and have all updates installed. I am not experiencing this problem. When I do experience this problem it is usually because I've had JAWS running, exited out of it but there are bits of JAWS left somewhere that cause Magnifier to only work in "Windows XP" mode even though my Aero Theme is stil active and working. I can tell that there are bits of JAWS left because the Taskbar has not become "glass" again and is opaque. Usually I have to restart my computer to fully get rid of the bits of JAWS that are left. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kenneth Elkind Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 12:07 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Cc: Sheila Em Subject: [Athen] problems with Windows 7 and Windows Magnifier I am having problems with Windows 7 and Windows Magnifier. When Windows 7 updates the Windows Magnifier goes back from being full screen to being docked. 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URL: From jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu Mon Feb 25 09:33:14 2013 From: jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu (Julie Balassa) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: problems with Windows 7 and Windows Magnifier In-Reply-To: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C78525A@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C78525A@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: Magnifier doesn't like Windows Basic theme so we experience this when Jaws or MAGic is running or the theme doesn't reset when they close. jkb Please note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure. From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kenneth Elkind Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 12:07 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Cc: Sheila Em Subject: [Athen] problems with Windows 7 and Windows Magnifier I am having problems with Windows 7 and Windows Magnifier. When Windows 7 updates the Windows Magnifier goes back from being full screen to being docked. There seems to be a problem between the Windows Mirror Image and Aeros (that is found and controlled by personalization setting) Do window 7 updates change the personal setting? Has anybody experience this problem before? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Feb 25, 2013, at 1:39 PM, "Dina Rosenbaum" wrote: > My AT Guru is at CSUN; can anyone tell me if JAWS works with lotus notes? > Thanks! > > Dina Rosenbaum > Director of Marketing > The Carroll Center for the Blind > 770 Centre St, Newton, MA 02458 > 617-969-6200 x238; 800-852-3131; fax-617-969-6204 > www.carroll.org > > Shop us online: www.carroll.org/the-carroll-store/ > Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/CarrollCenter > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I may ask for a little feedback on the AHG conference and perhaps on a grant project I'm working on (more info later) but just come to socialize if you like and ignore my questions. Please rsvp so I can try to reserve an appropriate size table. Thanks, Howard -- Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 10:50:36 2013 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of Chromebooks? Message-ID: <001201ce1452$2ad5c6d0$80815470$@gmail.com> Hi all Athenites, Anyone have any quick insights or comments regarding the accessibility of Chromebooks? Or can someone point me to an already completed report? Thanks in advance. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant & Multi-Language Alt-Media Production The Foreign Type foreigntype@gmail.com Portland OR 480-984-0034 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Tue Feb 26 11:45:56 2013 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (Normajean.Brand) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] software for AltFormats students In-Reply-To: <51268B5E.50407@pdx.edu> References: <51268B5E.50407@pdx.edu> Message-ID: <18AB6E837CD5444FAECD90FCCDBFF5457400DD7C@sy-facmbx01.ad.hccs.edu> We use WYNN (Freedom Scientific) and Kurzweil 3000 both for our students on campus. Because we are a commuter community college we do not offer either of these software programs off-campus. However, I often send students to this link: http://mits.cenmi.org/Resources/MITSFreedomStick.aspx The MITS Freedom Stick is a portable, use-anywhere accessibility solution. Install this software package on any 4gb USB Flash Drive (full) or 2gb USB Flash Drive (lite) and you create a set of tools for your students that they can carry in their pockets which will make any Windows computer highly accessible. The Freedom Stick contains a fully accessible version of the Firefox web browser, the full Open Office suite (comparable to Microsoft Office), the Balabolka Text-To-Speech system, an on-screen calculator which allows students to paste their math work into homework or test documents, a "mind mapper" (similar to Inspiration), the Audacity audio recorder/player, and many, many more supports. Hope someone finds this useful! NJ NJ Brand, ATAC Houston Community College-Northwest ADA Technician Technology and Instructional Computing Room RC13 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. Houston TX 77043 VM/Office: 713.718.5604 ??????????????????? FAX: 713.718.5430 Email: normajean.brand@hccs.edu http://northwest.hccs.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Phyllis Petteys Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 3:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] software for AltFormats students Hi We are looking into making software available to Alt Formats students that will read PDFs (in the event they are not already using a screen reader) available for both Mac and PC. I've talked to some of you individually, but if you can weigh in on what you are using I'd appreciate it! Right now we show the students NaturalReaders and/or the reader in Adobe. Thanks! -- Phyllis Petteys Assistive Technology Center Portland State University Smith Memorial Student Union Room 116 Portland State University PO Box 751 Portland, OR 97207-0751 (503) 725-8395 (503) 725-4103 (fax) _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu Wed Feb 27 06:43:15 2013 From: Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu (Kenneth Elkind) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Best way to train the user that dictates one word at a time. Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C78543F@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> Has anybody worked with this issue? The research that I have been able to find suggests to bypass the general training and do training by using the accuracy center tools. The clinical research that was able to find this extremely old 2002 and 2004. That makes it Dragon NaturallySpeaking version 6 or possibly older. This one of the articles that I was able to find. Voice-Recognition and Aphasia: Can Computers Understand Aphasic Speech? Disability and Rehabilitation 2001 Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhayman at u.washington.edu Wed Feb 27 10:27:43 2013 From: dhayman at u.washington.edu (Doug Hayman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Best way to train the user that dictates one word at a time. In-Reply-To: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C78543F@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C78543F@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: I wonder if using something like the VOR function that some digital recorders have would help. Those are meant to save tape/storage space and record when they hear sound above a certain level...then stop recording the silent gaps...and re-activate again on the next sound. And like noise-gates used in audio chains, getting a good setting can be a bit tricky. So if the user could dictate with VOR a "string-----of-----words------dictated" separately, then play them back all linked together as "string of words dicatated" to appear linked more closely in time. Just thinking along the lines of how one would use an audio/DAW application to string together words/phrases once unwanted content is edited out, so that it sounds like the speaker made no "ums", "errs" and so on. Doug Hayman Technology Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit On Wed, 27 Feb 2013, Kenneth Elkind wrote: > > Has anybody worked with this issue? > > The research that I have been able to find suggests to bypass the general training and do training by using the accuracy center tools. The clinical research that was able to find this extremely old 2002 and 2004. That makes it Dragon NaturallySpeaking version 6 or possibly older. > > This one of the articles that I was able to find. Voice-Recognition and Aphasia: Can Computers Understand Aphasic Speech? Disability and Rehabilitation 2001 > > Kenneth Elkind > Assistive Technology Specialist > (617) 287- 5243 > Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu > Skype User Number: adaptiveumb > > > Adaptive Computer Lab > Maximizing Learning Potential > > Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab > > > From darren at missouri.edu Wed Feb 27 13:06:20 2013 From: darren at missouri.edu (Gabbert, Darren L.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Best way to train the user that dictates one word at a time. In-Reply-To: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C78543F@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C78543F@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: I would suggest going to your Dragon options command tab and move the "pause between commands" slider bar to the far right. This will allow a full second between each word before Dragon ends a single utterance. Might improve recognition accuracy. Regards, Darren Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S?III via ClickToPhone Kenneth Elkind wrote: Has anybody worked with this issue? The research that I have been able to find suggests to bypass the general training and do training by using the accuracy center tools. The clinical research that was able to find this extremely old 2002 and 2004. That makes it Dragon NaturallySpeaking version 6 or possibly older. This one of the articles that I was able to find. Voice-Recognition and Aphasia: Can Computers Understand Aphasic Speech? Disability and Rehabilitation 2001 Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Thu Feb 28 05:56:06 2013 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] software for AltFormats students In-Reply-To: <51268B5E.50407@pdx.edu> References: <51268B5E.50407@pdx.edu> Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A53083E@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> My students are loving Read&Write Gold. While it is not free, the campus can purchase a Remote User or Home License so you can provide the software for students to take home. Many of our LD students are using it to access textbooks now. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Phyllis Petteys Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 3:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] software for AltFormats students Hi We are looking into making software available to Alt Formats students that will read PDFs (in the event they are not already using a screen reader) available for both Mac and PC. I've talked to some of you individually, but if you can weigh in on what you are using I'd appreciate it! Right now we show the students NaturalReaders and/or the reader in Adobe. Thanks! -- Phyllis Petteys Assistive Technology Center Portland State University Smith Memorial Student Union Room 116 Portland State University PO Box 751 Portland, OR 97207-0751 (503) 725-8395 (503) 725-4103 (fax) _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list