From lnorwich at bu.edu Sun Jun 2 21:32:45 2013 From: lnorwich at bu.edu (Norwich, Lorraine S) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] Maps Message-ID: <9CD7975AD546754DBA3B21EC09D0882E3C09C86F@IST-EX10MBX-3.ad.bu.edu> HI We are looking at signage on campus and we spoke about our maps on line and in other formats. Can anyone share what you have done to make your maps accessible online and other thoughts or recommendations. Thanks Lorraine -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jxhicks at ualr.edu Mon Jun 3 06:20:19 2013 From: jxhicks at ualr.edu (Justin Hicks) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: MathML Scanning and Conversion Message-ID: Thanks for all the suggestions. I will definitely check out the Infiniti Reader. At this time I'm really looking more for a service I can contract out some work to so if anyone has any suggestions I would much appreciate it. Thanks. -- *Justin Hicks* University of Arkansas at Little Rock | Disability Resource Center 501.569.3143 | jxhicks@ualr.edu | ualr.edu/disability | Provide Feedback on the DRC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From PLester at admin.fsu.edu Mon Jun 3 07:23:54 2013 From: PLester at admin.fsu.edu (Lester, Patti) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Maps In-Reply-To: <9CD7975AD546754DBA3B21EC09D0882E3C09C86F@IST-EX10MBX-3.ad.bu.edu> References: <9CD7975AD546754DBA3B21EC09D0882E3C09C86F@IST-EX10MBX-3.ad.bu.edu> Message-ID: <9660B13B9DFB2D4291E23B4CEA2E092E0B5E7717@fsu-exch-nwr02.fsu.edu> Lorraine, Our campus map is available on line as a jpg file, however, we wanted to enhance that access. So we took on a project of creating a tactile map booklet of the entire campus. Our campus is hundreds of acres- we serve over 45, 000 students. The map is composed of 20 tabloid size 11 X 17 sheets of raised tactile images and braille where one of those sheets is an overview of the entire campus with the remaining sheets representative of campus, broken into quadrants. The booklet includes pages that describe campus landmarks, streets, buildings, athletic fields, etc. We got the idea from Lisa McGill who was involved in creating a campus map of the Auraria Colorado campus. Having a graphic design artist on board made the project doable. Best, Patti Lester, MLS, AT Lab Coordinator Student Disability Resource Center Florida State University 874 Traditions Way 108 Student Services Building Tallahassee, Florida 32306-4167 (850) 644-5532 __________________________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail (including the attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C.?? 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please contact me that you have received the message in error, and then destroy it. Thank You. From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Norwich, Lorraine S Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 12:33 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' ?[athen-list@u.washington.edu]? Subject: [Athen] Maps HI We are looking at signage on campus and we spoke about our maps on line and in other formats. Can anyone share what you have done to make your maps accessible online and other thoughts or recommendations. Thanks Lorraine -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at ucla.edu Wed Jun 5 12:04:26 2013 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] Jaws & SPSS, Revisited Message-ID: <201306051904.r55J4QDA020932@mail.ucla.edu> Hi everyone, My journey through some old ATHEN threads was not encouraging re SPSS & accessibility, but I'd like to know if anyone has more current news. We did a brief test this morning with Jaws 14 & SPSS 21 Beta. Jaws features were enabled during install process (which now thankfully takes the place of manually copying accessibility.properties files, etc.) Result?: Jaws reads the menu bar, various dialog tabs, tree views of variables from a dataset, all very nicely. (Result!) However ... I couldn't get Jaws to read anything other than Title from the SPSS Output Window. This window contains what appear visually as simple data tables of numbers (the real meat, & purpose for using SPSS in the first place, according to our stats expert running the test with me). She reports they're also having a terrible time exporting these output tables to HTML, so it sounds like a systemic issue of how the data is displayed. Has anyone had any better experience with recent SPSS Output data? Does the option to export to Excel help at all? (We're about to try that...) Thanks for any info (or data!), Patrick -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke@ucla.edu Location: 4909 Math Science Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu From larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu Wed Jun 5 12:40:22 2013 From: larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu (Larry Kiser) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Message-ID: Dear Colleagues: A student with low vision has attempted to use ZoomText 9.1 and 10.0 in conjunction with Firefox and Pearson's MyMath Lab for both homework and exams. The student sets ZT at 10x. At this setting undesirable artifacts (symbols, numbers) appear. Sometimes when one clicks on those artifacts they disappear. The student of course is unsure of what they should be seeing. When the zoom is disabled or at a low 2x magnification they do not appear. As described on the Pearson site the student changed from the XFonts setting to standard but found the pixilation to distracting. At present we and the Math Studio are providing an observer/reader to eliminate focus on artifact. Any suggestions of settings to eliminate this problem would be greatly appreciated if any exist. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 ________________________________ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The student sets ZT at 10x. At this setting undesirable artifacts (symbols, numbers) appear. Sometimes when one clicks on those artifacts they disappear. The student of course is unsure of what they should be seeing. When the zoom is disabled or at a low 2x magnification they do not appear. As described on the Pearson site the student changed from the XFonts setting to standard but found the pixilation to distracting. At present we and the Math Studio are providing an observer/reader to eliminate focus on artifact. Any suggestions of settings to eliminate this problem would be greatly appreciated if any exist. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 _____ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Wed Jun 5 13:32:04 2013 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA842B25466F@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> We had the same problem here. We are using ZT9.1 and IE 9. When we upgraded to the latest release of 9.1, it "seemed" to have fixed the problem. However, I can't say for sure that just because the student did not come back and report that the problem was fixed. She is not real good about followup and did not even let me know there was an issue for several weeks. I suggest trying the 9.1 with the latest release installed and see what happens. Good luck. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Dear Colleagues: A student with low vision has attempted to use ZoomText 9.1 and 10.0 in conjunction with Firefox and Pearson's MyMath Lab for both homework and exams. The student sets ZT at 10x. At this setting undesirable artifacts (symbols, numbers) appear. Sometimes when one clicks on those artifacts they disappear. The student of course is unsure of what they should be seeing. When the zoom is disabled or at a low 2x magnification they do not appear. As described on the Pearson site the student changed from the XFonts setting to standard but found the pixilation to distracting. At present we and the Math Studio are providing an observer/reader to eliminate focus on artifact. Any suggestions of settings to eliminate this problem would be greatly appreciated if any exist. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 ________________________________ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpuzz at msu.edu Thu Jun 6 06:35:16 2013 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] Purchasing New Scanners Message-ID: Hello everyone, We are upgrading much of our technology this summer, and scanners seem to be the question of the day. We are looking to purchase several categories of scanner: * Several high capacity units for ebook production * A couple scanners for use by students in our technology lab * Small, space saving desktop scanners for use by our staff when scanning documentation, etc. For ebook production we currently have several Canon DR5010s. They have served us well, but it appears there is no supported driver for Windows 8 X64. Has anyone had any luck shoehorning the Windows 7 driver into Windows 8 and making it work? If not, what replacement models should we consider? We're also debating whether one scanner per production workstation is the most efficient approach, or whether we should consider a couple networked scanners instead. Scanners for student use pose another interesting question. I believe this class of scanner is obviously still important ; However having said that, we've seen usage decrease considerably over the past few years. It seems that nowadays students are still making heavy use of OCR, but most of what they OCR is PDF and not paper. Our current student scanners are Ebson flatbeds with document feeders. I'm wondering how important the feeders are anymore? It seems that if a student did need to scan more than a few pages, they would be better served to just give the packet to us for production. In terms of scanners for staff, we're probably looking at small, upright models with sheet feeders , something like the Canon imageFORMULA p-215,or maybe something a bit bigger and more robust. Thoughts on any of these situations would be very much welcomed. Thanks in advance, Al Puzzuoli Michigan State University Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Thu Jun 6 07:28:09 2013 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] Purchasing New Scanners In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Al For our students in our computer lab we use the Epson DS 50000 11x17 flatbeds. We have 3 of them and their the 3rd generation of the Epson large flatbed scanners that I have purchased and they are reliable. The only knock against them is they moved to soft buttons for powering it on and off. It works ok but our students were used to the button that was physically depressed. http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&sku=B11B204121 For small desktop ADF's for staff we use the Epson GT S50. It has a 75 sheet tray and scanns 25 pages per minute duplex. It also takes up little space on a desktop. http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&sku=B11B194011 I've been sticking with Epson scanners where I can because they have always worked well for us. Jeff Cleveland State On 6/6/13, Al Puzzuoli wrote: > Hello everyone, > We are upgrading much of our technology this summer, and scanners seem to be > the question of the day. We are looking to purchase several categories of > scanner: > > * Several high capacity units for ebook production > > * A couple scanners for use by students in our technology lab > > * Small, space saving desktop scanners for use by our staff when > scanning documentation, etc. > > > For ebook production we currently have several Canon DR5010s. They have > served us well, but it appears there is no supported driver for Windows 8 > X64. Has anyone had any luck shoehorning the Windows 7 driver into Windows > 8 and making it work? If not, what replacement models should we consider? > We're also debating whether one scanner per production workstation is the > most efficient approach, or whether we should consider a couple networked > scanners instead. > > Scanners for student use pose another interesting question. I believe this > class of scanner is obviously still important ; However having said that, > we've seen usage decrease considerably over the past few years. It seems > that nowadays students are still making heavy use of OCR, but most of what > they OCR is PDF and not paper. Our current student scanners are Ebson > flatbeds with document feeders. I'm wondering how important the feeders are > anymore? It seems that if a student did need to scan more than a few pages, > they would be better served to just give the packet to us for production. > > In terms of scanners for staff, we're probably looking at small, upright > models with sheet feeders , something like the Canon imageFORMULA p-215,or > maybe something a bit bigger and more robust. > > Thoughts on any of these situations would be very much welcomed. > Thanks in advance, > > Al Puzzuoli > Michigan State University > Information Technologist > http://www.rcpd.msu.edu > Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 Bessey Hall > East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From ron at ahead.org Thu Jun 6 12:12:34 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] Purchasing New Scanners In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <046b01ce62e9$ccef4d20$66cde760$@ahead.org> Here you go, the replacement for the 5080C is now the 9050c but if you can afford it the DR-X10C is really the way to go for cut book files. The paper handling is absolutely amazing. For desktop cut book scanners, the Canon P-215 is really good but the pages have to be cut. It can do about 20-30 pages in a batch. I am also becoming enamored with the Plustek Book edge scanners for use in the library space where you can not cut the bindings off. I go for the 4000 series because they tend to be of office quality. If you need a production flatbed then my favorite is the Fujitsu 6770, nice flatbed scanner and also has a duplexing unit that allows you to feed from the top or the bottom. My personal scanner is a Xerox 600 series with and ADF unit. I don't tend to do large volumes these days. Scanners that I would avoid are Epson and HP, they are good personal units but do not last in a production environment. All your scanners need to be fully TWAIN compliant or you are going to run into problems with the OCR packages. Ron Stewart From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:35 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Purchasing New Scanners Hello everyone, We are upgrading much of our technology this summer, and scanners seem to be the question of the day. We are looking to purchase several categories of scanner: . Several high capacity units for ebook production . A couple scanners for use by students in our technology lab . Small, space saving desktop scanners for use by our staff when scanning documentation, etc. For ebook production we currently have several Canon DR5010s. They have served us well, but it appears there is no supported driver for Windows 8 X64. Has anyone had any luck shoehorning the Windows 7 driver into Windows 8 and making it work? If not, what replacement models should we consider? We're also debating whether one scanner per production workstation is the most efficient approach, or whether we should consider a couple networked scanners instead. Scanners for student use pose another interesting question. I believe this class of scanner is obviously still important ; However having said that, we've seen usage decrease considerably over the past few years. It seems that nowadays students are still making heavy use of OCR, but most of what they OCR is PDF and not paper. Our current student scanners are Ebson flatbeds with document feeders. I'm wondering how important the feeders are anymore? It seems that if a student did need to scan more than a few pages, they would be better served to just give the packet to us for production. In terms of scanners for staff, we're probably looking at small, upright models with sheet feeders , something like the Canon imageFORMULA p-215,or maybe something a bit bigger and more robust. Thoughts on any of these situations would be very much welcomed. Thanks in advance, Al Puzzuoli Michigan State University Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jxhicks at ualr.edu Thu Jun 6 12:38:28 2013 From: jxhicks at ualr.edu (Justin Hicks) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] Purchasing New Scanners Message-ID: Hi Al, Generally drivers that are made for Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8 are compatible, so if you have 64-bit Windows 7 drivers they should work fine for Windows 8 x64. I took a quick look on the Canon site and there seemed to be Windows 8 drivers http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/office/imageformula_scanners/imageformula_dr_5010c_6030c/imageformula_dr_5010c_color_production_scanner#DriversAndSoftware . -- *Justin Hicks* University of Arkansas at Little Rock | Disability Resource Center 501.569.3143 | jxhicks@ualr.edu | ualr.edu/disability | Provide Feedback on the DRC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu Thu Jun 6 12:59:35 2013 From: larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu (Larry Kiser) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab In-Reply-To: <2494E7BCA515434EBE2ACA5FF38D6E81@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <2494E7BCA515434EBE2ACA5FF38D6E81@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: Gaeir: ZoomText does not play well with IE. This is acknowledged on the AiSquare website as an issue. They suggest using Firefox. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 From: Gaeir Dietrich [mailto:gdietrich@htctu.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 3:54 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Has the student tried using Internet Explorer, instead of Firefox? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ________________________________ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Dear Colleagues: A student with low vision has attempted to use ZoomText 9.1 and 10.0 in conjunction with Firefox and Pearson's MyMath Lab for both homework and exams. The student sets ZT at 10x. At this setting undesirable artifacts (symbols, numbers) appear. Sometimes when one clicks on those artifacts they disappear. The student of course is unsure of what they should be seeing. When the zoom is disabled or at a low 2x magnification they do not appear. As described on the Pearson site the student changed from the XFonts setting to standard but found the pixilation to distracting. At present we and the Math Studio are providing an observer/reader to eliminate focus on artifact. Any suggestions of settings to eliminate this problem would be greatly appreciated if any exist. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 ________________________________ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu Thu Jun 6 13:01:45 2013 From: larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu (Larry Kiser) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab In-Reply-To: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA842B25466F@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> References: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA842B25466F@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: Robert: Thanks for asking. We are up to the last version of 9.1.19. As I indicated the student is having the same issue with ZT 10 at home. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 From: Robert Beach [mailto:rbeach@KCKCC.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 4:32 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] RE: ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab We had the same problem here. We are using ZT9.1 and IE 9. When we upgraded to the latest release of 9.1, it "seemed" to have fixed the problem. However, I can't say for sure that just because the student did not come back and report that the problem was fixed. She is not real good about followup and did not even let me know there was an issue for several weeks. I suggest trying the 9.1 with the latest release installed and see what happens. Good luck. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Dear Colleagues: A student with low vision has attempted to use ZoomText 9.1 and 10.0 in conjunction with Firefox and Pearson's MyMath Lab for both homework and exams. The student sets ZT at 10x. At this setting undesirable artifacts (symbols, numbers) appear. Sometimes when one clicks on those artifacts they disappear. The student of course is unsure of what they should be seeing. When the zoom is disabled or at a low 2x magnification they do not appear. As described on the Pearson site the student changed from the XFonts setting to standard but found the pixilation to distracting. At present we and the Math Studio are providing an observer/reader to eliminate focus on artifact. Any suggestions of settings to eliminate this problem would be greatly appreciated if any exist. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 ________________________________ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Thu Jun 6 13:11:17 2013 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab In-Reply-To: References: <2494E7BCA515434EBE2ACA5FF38D6E81@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A8B76BB@exmbt02.asurite.ad.asu.edu> As an aside, last year when I worked with a student who had a similar issue, the MyMathLab tech support group (whom the student contacted before me) told the student to use IE as a solution. I'm sure that misinformation is common, unfortunately. Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:00 PM To: gdietrich@htctu.net; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Gaeir: ZoomText does not play well with IE. This is acknowledged on the AiSquare website as an issue. They suggest using Firefox. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 From: Gaeir Dietrich [mailto:gdietrich@htctu.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 3:54 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Has the student tried using Internet Explorer, instead of Firefox? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ________________________________ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Dear Colleagues: A student with low vision has attempted to use ZoomText 9.1 and 10.0 in conjunction with Firefox and Pearson's MyMath Lab for both homework and exams. The student sets ZT at 10x. At this setting undesirable artifacts (symbols, numbers) appear. Sometimes when one clicks on those artifacts they disappear. The student of course is unsure of what they should be seeing. When the zoom is disabled or at a low 2x magnification they do not appear. As described on the Pearson site the student changed from the XFonts setting to standard but found the pixilation to distracting. At present we and the Math Studio are providing an observer/reader to eliminate focus on artifact. Any suggestions of settings to eliminate this problem would be greatly appreciated if any exist. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 ________________________________ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bshimmin at bakersfieldcollege.edu Thu Jun 6 13:19:08 2013 From: bshimmin at bakersfieldcollege.edu (Bob Shimmin) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab In-Reply-To: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A8B76BB@exmbt02.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <2494E7BCA515434EBE2ACA5FF38D6E81@htctu.fhda.edu> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A8B76BB@exmbt02.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <134C9C709D141E4580137CD3B4F451E3031045@EX02.college.kernccd.net> Have you tried using Windows built in Magnifier program? It will go up to 16x magnification. It comes with Windows Vista, 7, & 8. It is not available on XP. Bob Shimmin Bakersfield College Information Services Technician To submit a helpdesk ticket click the link below. http://support.kccd.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:11 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; gdietrich@htctu.net Subject: RE: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab As an aside, last year when I worked with a student who had a similar issue, the MyMathLab tech support group (whom the student contacted before me) told the student to use IE as a solution. I'm sure that misinformation is common, unfortunately. Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:00 PM To: gdietrich@htctu.net; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Gaeir: ZoomText does not play well with IE. This is acknowledged on the AiSquare website as an issue. They suggest using Firefox. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 From: Gaeir Dietrich [mailto:gdietrich@htctu.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 3:54 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Has the student tried using Internet Explorer, instead of Firefox? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ________________________________ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Dear Colleagues: A student with low vision has attempted to use ZoomText 9.1 and 10.0 in conjunction with Firefox and Pearson's MyMath Lab for both homework and exams. The student sets ZT at 10x. At this setting undesirable artifacts (symbols, numbers) appear. Sometimes when one clicks on those artifacts they disappear. The student of course is unsure of what they should be seeing. When the zoom is disabled or at a low 2x magnification they do not appear. As described on the Pearson site the student changed from the XFonts setting to standard but found the pixilation to distracting. At present we and the Math Studio are providing an observer/reader to eliminate focus on artifact. Any suggestions of settings to eliminate this problem would be greatly appreciated if any exist. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 ________________________________ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu Thu Jun 6 13:50:06 2013 From: Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu (Kenneth Elkind) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE:Jaws & SPSS, Revisited Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C011B42F4@BN1PRD0111MB506.prod.exchangelabs.com> I'm happy to hear that you got SPSS to works. I did find a trick in making the output report tables readable. You need to change the viewer layout to separate tables. You can find this: Menu Bar/Edit/Edit content/in separate windows.' Hopefully that still works. 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Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 From: Bob Shimmin [mailto:bshimmin@bakersfieldcollege.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 4:19 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Have you tried using Windows built in Magnifier program? It will go up to 16x magnification. It comes with Windows Vista, 7, & 8. It is not available on XP. Bob Shimmin Bakersfield College Information Services Technician To submit a helpdesk ticket click the link below. http://support.kccd.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:11 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; gdietrich@htctu.net Subject: RE: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab As an aside, last year when I worked with a student who had a similar issue, the MyMathLab tech support group (whom the student contacted before me) told the student to use IE as a solution. I'm sure that misinformation is common, unfortunately. Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:00 PM To: gdietrich@htctu.net; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Gaeir: ZoomText does not play well with IE. This is acknowledged on the AiSquare website as an issue. They suggest using Firefox. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 From: Gaeir Dietrich [mailto:gdietrich@htctu.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 3:54 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Has the student tried using Internet Explorer, instead of Firefox? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ________________________________ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Dear Colleagues: A student with low vision has attempted to use ZoomText 9.1 and 10.0 in conjunction with Firefox and Pearson's MyMath Lab for both homework and exams. The student sets ZT at 10x. At this setting undesirable artifacts (symbols, numbers) appear. Sometimes when one clicks on those artifacts they disappear. The student of course is unsure of what they should be seeing. When the zoom is disabled or at a low 2x magnification they do not appear. As described on the Pearson site the student changed from the XFonts setting to standard but found the pixilation to distracting. At present we and the Math Studio are providing an observer/reader to eliminate focus on artifact. Any suggestions of settings to eliminate this problem would be greatly appreciated if any exist. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 ________________________________ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Sun Jun 9 21:51:54 2013 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] EASI Free Webinar: Web and IT Accessibility Policies in Higher Education Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20130609214905.04beb748@pop.gmail.com> EASI Free Webinar: Web and IT Accessibility Policies in Higher Education Thursday, June 13 at 11 Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 PM Eastern Daylight Presenters: Sheryl Burgstahler Director of UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT University of Washington Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist University of Washington How many higher education institutions in the United States have web or technology accessibility policies? What do these policies look like? Are they effective? What constitutes a good accessibility policy? Presenters in this session will be exploring these questions with results from their recent research project on this topic, and by sharing their own experiences with policy development and accessibility-related planning. Register for this free EASI Webinar from the link below: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm/#june Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It's never too late to become what you might have been. George Eliot Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com Making Online Teaching Accessible: Inclusive Course Design for Students with Disabilities by Norman Coombs published by Jossey-Bass Oct 10,2010 http://www.josseybass.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470499044.html From larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu Mon Jun 10 08:10:37 2013 From: larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu (Larry Kiser) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] Problems Using Kurzweil Read the Web with Canvas Message-ID: Dear Colleagues: Last week a student attempted to use the Kurzweil Read the Web feature during an exam delivered through Canvas. In this instance and during a follow-up diagnostic session with the student opening a practice quiz, Kurzweil Read the Web read information on the screen randomly and announced other information not readily viewable. During the exam the student was able to use a Kurzweil taskbar feature, but this was slow because it required the student to highlight questions with the pointer and drag it to the taskbar. I reviewed the VPAT for Canvas, which indicated it was compatible with screen readers. I emailed Kurzweil and received the following response. Kurzweil Response Kurzweil 3000 and the Read the Web functionality provides limited recognition outside of the program itself. The current read the web add on, kesireader.xpi, can only recognized plain text/basic html websites. It is not uncommon that websites that are generated in use or that contain windows within windows to have issues recognizing text. I would recommend that you update your current version of the Kurzweil 3000 software, update the kesireader.xpi and test the reader on plain text/basic html websites, should the problem continue within these websites, we may be able to determine what the cause is. For more complicated websites, such as script bases information or test taking websites, I'd recommend that you print them to Kurzweil 3000 using the KESI Virtual Printer. In the case of a Macintosh, print the site to PDF and then open that in Kurzweil 3000. This alternative can provide the student access to the materials for reading, however, they may need to go back to the website to introduce their answers. We are already using the most recent version of K3000. It is not feasible to print the exam using the Kesi Virtual Printer as suggested. Any thoughts would be helpful. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 ________________________________ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From riesmeyerp at purduecal.edu Mon Jun 10 08:25:40 2013 From: riesmeyerp at purduecal.edu (Pamela Riesmeyer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Job Posting: Technology Specialist Purdue University Calumet, Hammond, IN Message-ID: Purdue University Calumet,Hammond, IN - Office of Disability Resources Position: Technology Specialist Details available from Human Resources: Description Delivers assistive technology accommodations to students with disabilities in order to ensure and maintain compliance. Also provides training on assistive technology to students and staff within the Office of Disability Resources, as well as, acts as a resource to other University departments. Works collaboratively with the Office of Instructional Technology (OIT) to facilitate the captioning process. Provides training to Office of Disability Resources staff in the use of assistive technology. Qualifications Required: - Bachelor's degree required in Computer Science, Computer Information Systems, Computer Technology, Educational Technology, or related discipline - Two years of experience with assistive computer technology (hardware and software) as a user or technician - Must have familiarity with strategies and experience working with students with disabilities - Demonstrated knowledge and sensitivity of issues relating to students with disabilities and diverse populations - Must have knowledge of current technology, usage, and functions of assistive technology devices, computers and computer systems, hardware, peripherals and specialized software in higher education - Must have knowledge of effective best practices and current issues in the field of accessibility in higher education - Must have knowledge of Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act - Must have knowledge and understanding of Universal Design - Ability to effectively communicate orally and in writing - Demonstrated ability to build and maintain productive, collaborative relationships with students, faculty, and staff ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: FLSA: Exempt (Not Eligible For Overtime) Retirement Eligibility: Fidelity Contribution Waiting Period. Benefits Available Review of online applications will begin immediately and continue until position is filled, with a preferred online application deadline of: June 21, 2013. Although you are welcome to apply after this date, your resume may or may not be reviewed depending on the outcome of the search. All offers of employment will be made contingent upon the results of the background check. Purdue University Calumet is an equal opportunity/equal access/affirmative action employer fully committed to achieving a diverse workforce. -- Pamela Riesmeyer Web Accessibility Coordinator Purdue University Calumet 219-989-2731/219-730-2751 SKYPE: pamela.riesmeyer Email: riesmeyerp@purduecal.edu Web Site: http://webs.purduecal.edu/webaccessibility -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Mon Jun 10 17:02:37 2013 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Problems Using Kurzweil Read the Web with Canvas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00F8FD5AD00D4CFFBD33E86A58C44CF0@htctu.fhda.edu> Screen readers (like JAWS, Window-Eyes, NVDA, etc.) read the entire screen, announce icons, verbalize menus, and read text-based documents. Kurzweil, on the other hand, is actually a document reader, rather than a screen reader. Document readers only read documents (not the entire screen) and include programs like Kurzweil, WYNN, R&W Gold, ClaroRead, etc. Kurzweil, in particular, reads text best within its own window and on the Web only to a limited extent. The VPAT was referring to actual screen readers, not to all reading software. A program working with a screen reader does not guarantee that it will work with other assistive technology. If you can copy and paste the text into a Kurzweil document, the student should be able to read it that way-or if you can print the test to PDF and then bring the PDF into Kurzweil through the KESI Virtual Printer, you may be able to read it. You can also try downloading a demo copy of Read&Write Gold. R&W provides a toolbar that "floats" over other programs and can be a bit more flexible than Kurzweil in reading on the Web. Good luck! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ _____ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 8:11 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Problems Using Kurzweil Read the Web with Canvas Dear Colleagues: Last week a student attempted to use the Kurzweil Read the Web feature during an exam delivered through Canvas. In this instance and during a follow-up diagnostic session with the student opening a practice quiz, Kurzweil Read the Web read information on the screen randomly and announced other information not readily viewable. During the exam the student was able to use a Kurzweil taskbar feature, but this was slow because it required the student to highlight questions with the pointer and drag it to the taskbar. I reviewed the VPAT for Canvas, which indicated it was compatible with screen readers. I emailed Kurzweil and received the following response. Kurzweil Response Kurzweil 3000 and the Read the Web functionality provides limited recognition outside of the program itself. The current read the web add on, kesireader.xpi, can only recognized plain text/basic html websites. It is not uncommon that websites that are generated in use or that contain windows within windows to have issues recognizing text. I would recommend that you update your current version of the Kurzweil 3000 software, update the kesireader.xpi and test the reader on plain text/basic html websites, should the problem continue within these websites, we may be able to determine what the cause is. For more complicated websites, such as script bases information or test taking websites, I'd recommend that you print them to Kurzweil 3000 using the KESI Virtual Printer. In the case of a Macintosh, print the site to PDF and then open that in Kurzweil 3000. This alternative can provide the student access to the materials for reading, however, they may need to go back to the website to introduce their answers. We are already using the most recent version of K3000. It is not feasible to print the exam using the Kesi Virtual Printer as suggested. Any thoughts would be helpful. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 _____ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Accessibil-IT Accessibil-IT website 2275 Upper Middle Road East Suite 101 Oakville, Ontario, Canada L6H 0C3 +1 905 491 6875Telephone: +1 905 491 6801FAX: E-mail: info@accessibilit.com One of the most compelling reasons for making this move is that Accessibil-IT creates PDF documents that are equal in accessibility to what I produce or, in some instances, better. Karen McCall and Karlen Communications will still be doing work around accessible Microsoft Office document design, it is the PDF work that is now being done through Accessibil-IT. In a further career move, Karen is involved in disability rights advocacy. (See the page on the Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act). Of course, I'll still answer e-mail questions about your documents. Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Tue Jun 11 05:20:12 2013 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Problems Using Kurzweil Read the Web with Canvas In-Reply-To: <00F8FD5AD00D4CFFBD33E86A58C44CF0@htctu.fhda.edu> References: <00F8FD5AD00D4CFFBD33E86A58C44CF0@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA842B254F13@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> If you do try Read&Write, you might even try turning on the screen reading feature. It helps read items such as buttons, links, etc. and may help with your situation. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 7:03 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] Problems Using Kurzweil Read the Web with Canvas Screen readers (like JAWS, Window-Eyes, NVDA, etc.) read the entire screen, announce icons, verbalize menus, and read text-based documents. Kurzweil, on the other hand, is actually a document reader, rather than a screen reader. Document readers only read documents (not the entire screen) and include programs like Kurzweil, WYNN, R&W Gold, ClaroRead, etc. Kurzweil, in particular, reads text best within its own window and on the Web only to a limited extent. The VPAT was referring to actual screen readers, not to all reading software. A program working with a screen reader does not guarantee that it will work with other assistive technology. If you can copy and paste the text into a Kurzweil document, the student should be able to read it that way-or if you can print the test to PDF and then bring the PDF into Kurzweil through the KESI Virtual Printer, you may be able to read it. You can also try downloading a demo copy of Read&Write Gold. R&W provides a toolbar that "floats" over other programs and can be a bit more flexible than Kurzweil in reading on the Web. Good luck! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ________________________________ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Kiser Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 8:11 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Problems Using Kurzweil Read the Web with Canvas Dear Colleagues: Last week a student attempted to use the Kurzweil Read the Web feature during an exam delivered through Canvas. In this instance and during a follow-up diagnostic session with the student opening a practice quiz, Kurzweil Read the Web read information on the screen randomly and announced other information not readily viewable. During the exam the student was able to use a Kurzweil taskbar feature, but this was slow because it required the student to highlight questions with the pointer and drag it to the taskbar. I reviewed the VPAT for Canvas, which indicated it was compatible with screen readers. I emailed Kurzweil and received the following response. Kurzweil Response Kurzweil 3000 and the Read the Web functionality provides limited recognition outside of the program itself. The current read the web add on, kesireader.xpi, can only recognized plain text/basic html websites. It is not uncommon that websites that are generated in use or that contain windows within windows to have issues recognizing text. I would recommend that you update your current version of the Kurzweil 3000 software, update the kesireader.xpi and test the reader on plain text/basic html websites, should the problem continue within these websites, we may be able to determine what the cause is. For more complicated websites, such as script bases information or test taking websites, I'd recommend that you print them to Kurzweil 3000 using the KESI Virtual Printer. In the case of a Macintosh, print the site to PDF and then open that in Kurzweil 3000. This alternative can provide the student access to the materials for reading, however, they may need to go back to the website to introduce their answers. We are already using the most recent version of K3000. It is not feasible to print the exam using the Kesi Virtual Printer as suggested. Any thoughts would be helpful. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 ________________________________ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Tue Jun 11 05:23:25 2013 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible PDF documents now done through Accessibil-IT In-Reply-To: <005d01ce6690$5af1e890$10d5b9b0$@karlencommunications.com> References: <005d01ce6690$5af1e890$10d5b9b0$@karlencommunications.com> Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA842B254F29@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Karen, Congrats on the move! I hope it all goes well for you. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 5:42 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Accessible PDF documents now done through Accessibil-IT Hi Everyone! I am pleased and excited to announce that I've joined Accessibil-IT of Oakville/Toronto as Head of Quality Assurance and Training. Accessibil-IT is a company that specializes in accessible PDF documents. This means Karlen Communications will no longer do any work around PDF document accessibility. All PDF work will be done through Accessibil-IT. Please contact Accessibil-IT for your PDF needs. All of the information you need to get in touch with Accessibil-IT Inc. can be found on this page. Accessibil-IT Accessibil-IT website 2275 Upper Middle Road East Suite 101 Oakville, Ontario, Canada L6H 0C3 +1 905 491 6875Telephone: +1 905 491 6801FAX: E-mail: info@accessibilit.com One of the most compelling reasons for making this move is that Accessibil-IT creates PDF documents that are equal in accessibility to what I produce or, in some instances, better. Karen McCall and Karlen Communications will still be doing work around accessible Microsoft Office document design, it is the PDF work that is now being done through Accessibil-IT. In a further career move, Karen is involved in disability rights advocacy. (See the page on the Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act). Of course, I'll still answer e-mail questions about your documents. Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cmhackett at stcc.edu Tue Jun 11 06:20:59 2013 From: cmhackett at stcc.edu (Connie Hackett) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab In-Reply-To: References: <2494E7BCA515434EBE2ACA5FF38D6E81@htctu.fhda.edu> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A8B76BB@exmbt02.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <134C9C709D141E4580137CD3B4F451E3031045@EX02.college.kernccd.net> Message-ID: <319eb76b156869bc48b4a763eb620961@mail.gmail.com> Have you tried MAGic Screen Magnification from Freedom Scientific? You can download a trial version at http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/demo/FS-demo-downloads.asp . Connie Hackett Assistive Technology Help Desk Technician Springfield Technical Community College 413.755.4082 cmhackett@stcc.edu *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Larry Kiser *Sent:* Friday, June 07, 2013 4:18 PM *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network *Subject:* RE: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Bob: Yes the student and I did view through the Magnifier but the student found the pixilation great at the higher settings that she needs. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 *From:* Bob Shimmin [mailto:bshimmin@bakersfieldcollege.edu] *Sent:* Thursday, June 06, 2013 4:19 PM *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network *Subject:* RE: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Have you tried using Windows built in Magnifier program? It will go up to 16x magnification. It comes with Windows Vista, 7, & 8. It is not available on XP. Bob Shimmin Bakersfield College Information Services Technician To submit a helpdesk ticket click the link below. http://support.kccd.edu *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [ mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Teresa Haven *Sent:* Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:11 PM *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network; gdietrich@htctu.net *Subject:* RE: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab As an aside, last year when I worked with a student who had a similar issue, the MyMathLab tech support group (whom the student contacted before me) told the student to use IE as a solution. I?m sure that misinformation is common, unfortunately. Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [ mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Larry Kiser *Sent:* Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:00 PM *To:* gdietrich@htctu.net; Access Technology Higher Education Network *Subject:* RE: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Gaeir: ZoomText does not play well with IE. This is acknowledged on the AiSquare website as an issue. They suggest using Firefox. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 *From:* Gaeir Dietrich [mailto:gdietrich@htctu.net ] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 05, 2013 3:54 PM *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' *Subject:* RE: [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Has the student tried using Internet Explorer, instead of Firefox? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [ mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Larry Kiser *Sent:* Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:40 PM *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu *Subject:* [Athen] ZoomText Compatibility Issues with Pearson MyMath Lab Dear Colleagues: A student with low vision has attempted to use ZoomText 9.1 and 10.0 in conjunction with Firefox and Pearson?s MyMath Lab for both homework and exams. The student sets ZT at 10x. At this setting undesirable artifacts (symbols, numbers) appear. Sometimes when one clicks on those artifacts they disappear. The student of course is unsure of what they should be seeing. When the zoom is disabled or at a low 2x magnification they do not appear. As described on the Pearson site the student changed from the XFonts setting to standard but found the pixilation to distracting. At present we and the Math Studio are providing an observer/reader to eliminate focus on artifact. Any suggestions of settings to eliminate this problem would be greatly appreciated if any exist. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 ------------------------------ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Tue Jun 11 06:55:42 2013 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible PDF documents now done through Accessibil-IT In-Reply-To: <005d01ce6690$5af1e890$10d5b9b0$@karlencommunications.com> References: <005d01ce6690$5af1e890$10d5b9b0$@karlencommunications.com> Message-ID: Congrats, Karen! Wishing you all the best!! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director --- Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas --- ARKU 104 --- Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 ph --- 479.575.7445 fax --- 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ StrengthQuest Talent Themes: Learner, Input, Maximizer, Intellection, Arranger This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender by reply email and delete the message. Your cooperation is appreciated. +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Karlen Communications < info@karlencommunications.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone!**** > > ** ** > > I am pleased and excited to announce that I?ve joined Accessibil-IT of > Oakville/Toronto as Head of Quality Assurance and Training. Accessibil-IT > is a company that specializes in accessible PDF documents. This means > Karlen Communications will no longer do any work around PDF document > accessibility. All PDF work will be done through Accessibil-IT.**** > > ** ** > > Please contact Accessibil-IT for your PDF needs.**** > > ** ** > > All of the information you need to get in touch with Accessibil-IT Inc. > can be found on this page.**** > > ** ** > > Accessibil-IT > Accessibil-IT website **** > > 2275 Upper Middle Road East > Suite 101 > Oakville, Ontario, Canada > L6H 0C3 > > +1 905 491 6875Telephone: > +1 905 491 6801FAX: > E-mail: info@accessibilit.com**** > > ** ** > > One of the most compelling reasons for making this move is that > Accessibil-IT creates PDF documents that are equal in accessibility to what > I produce or, in some instances, better. **** > > ** ** > > Karen McCall and Karlen Communications will still be doing work around > accessible Microsoft Office document design, it is the PDF work that is now > being done through Accessibil-IT.**** > > ** ** > > In a further career move, Karen is involved in disability rights advocacy. > (See the page on the Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act).** > ** > > ** ** > > Of course, I?ll still answer e-mail questions about your documents. **** > > ** ** > > Cheers, Karen**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbailey at uoregon.edu Tue Jun 11 08:46:50 2013 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible PDF documents now done through Accessibil-IT In-Reply-To: <005d01ce6690$5af1e890$10d5b9b0$@karlencommunications.com> References: <005d01ce6690$5af1e890$10d5b9b0$@karlencommunications.com> Message-ID: Karen: Congratulations! This is good fortune for you, but even better for Accessibil-IT. They are lucky to have you. All the best, James James Bailey M.S. Adaptive Tech Coordinator University of Oregon From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:42 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Accessible PDF documents now done through Accessibil-IT Hi Everyone! I am pleased and excited to announce that I've joined Accessibil-IT of Oakville/Toronto as Head of Quality Assurance and Training. Accessibil-IT is a company that specializes in accessible PDF documents. This means Karlen Communications will no longer do any work around PDF document accessibility. All PDF work will be done through Accessibil-IT. Please contact Accessibil-IT for your PDF needs. All of the information you need to get in touch with Accessibil-IT Inc. can be found on this page. Accessibil-IT Accessibil-IT website 2275 Upper Middle Road East Suite 101 Oakville, Ontario, Canada L6H 0C3 +1 905 491 6875Telephone: +1 905 491 6801FAX: E-mail: info@accessibilit.com One of the most compelling reasons for making this move is that Accessibil-IT creates PDF documents that are equal in accessibility to what I produce or, in some instances, better. Karen McCall and Karlen Communications will still be doing work around accessible Microsoft Office document design, it is the PDF work that is now being done through Accessibil-IT. In a further career move, Karen is involved in disability rights advocacy. (See the page on the Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act). Of course, I'll still answer e-mail questions about your documents. Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Tue Jun 11 09:30:29 2013 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible PDF documents now done through Accessibil-IT In-Reply-To: References: <005d01ce6690$5af1e890$10d5b9b0$@karlencommunications.com> Message-ID: <00dd01ce66c0$fcd84930$f688db90$@karlencommunications.com> Thanks everyone! I'm working for them sort of half time so am still around for general accessible document design and other adventures! Cheers, Karen From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:47 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] Accessible PDF documents now done through Accessibil-IT Karen: Congratulations! This is good fortune for you, but even better for Accessibil-IT. They are lucky to have you. All the best, James James Bailey M.S. Adaptive Tech Coordinator University of Oregon From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:42 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Accessible PDF documents now done through Accessibil-IT Hi Everyone! I am pleased and excited to announce that I've joined Accessibil-IT of Oakville/Toronto as Head of Quality Assurance and Training. Accessibil-IT is a company that specializes in accessible PDF documents. This means Karlen Communications will no longer do any work around PDF document accessibility. All PDF work will be done through Accessibil-IT. Please contact Accessibil-IT for your PDF needs. All of the information you need to get in touch with Accessibil-IT Inc. can be found on this page. Accessibil-IT Accessibil-IT website 2275 Upper Middle Road East Suite 101 Oakville, Ontario, Canada L6H 0C3 +1 905 491 6875Telephone: +1 905 491 6801FAX: E-mail: info@accessibilit.com One of the most compelling reasons for making this move is that Accessibil-IT creates PDF documents that are equal in accessibility to what I produce or, in some instances, better. Karen McCall and Karlen Communications will still be doing work around accessible Microsoft Office document design, it is the PDF work that is now being done through Accessibil-IT. In a further career move, Karen is involved in disability rights advocacy. (See the page on the Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act). Of course, I'll still answer e-mail questions about your documents. Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Tue Jun 11 10:22:35 2013 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible PDF documents now done through Accessibil-IT In-Reply-To: <00dd01ce66c0$fcd84930$f688db90$@karlencommunications.com> References: <005d01ce6690$5af1e890$10d5b9b0$@karlencommunications.com> <00dd01ce66c0$fcd84930$f688db90$@karlencommunications.com> Message-ID: <004e01ce66c8$450e23d0$cf2a6b70$@gmail.com> Congratulations, Karen! Best of luck and much success in your new venture. Wink Harner foreigntype@gmail.com Wink Harner Accessibility Consulting/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR --- Accessible Technology Specialist Southern Oregon University Ashland OR harnerw@sou.edu 541-552-8442 From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 9:30 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] Accessible PDF documents now done through Accessibil-IT Thanks everyone! I'm working for them sort of half time so am still around for general accessible document design and other adventures! Cheers, Karen From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:47 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] Accessible PDF documents now done through Accessibil-IT Karen: Congratulations! This is good fortune for you, but even better for Accessibil-IT. They are lucky to have you. All the best, James James Bailey M.S. Adaptive Tech Coordinator University of Oregon From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:42 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Accessible PDF documents now done through Accessibil-IT Hi Everyone! I am pleased and excited to announce that I've joined Accessibil-IT of Oakville/Toronto as Head of Quality Assurance and Training. Accessibil-IT is a company that specializes in accessible PDF documents. This means Karlen Communications will no longer do any work around PDF document accessibility. All PDF work will be done through Accessibil-IT. Please contact Accessibil-IT for your PDF needs. All of the information you need to get in touch with Accessibil-IT Inc. can be found on this page. Accessibil-IT Accessibil-IT website 2275 Upper Middle Road East Suite 101 Oakville, Ontario, Canada L6H 0C3 +1 905 491 6875Telephone: +1 905 491 6801FAX: E-mail: info@accessibilit.com One of the most compelling reasons for making this move is that Accessibil-IT creates PDF documents that are equal in accessibility to what I produce or, in some instances, better. Karen McCall and Karlen Communications will still be doing work around accessible Microsoft Office document design, it is the PDF work that is now being done through Accessibil-IT. In a further career move, Karen is involved in disability rights advocacy. (See the page on the Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act). Of course, I'll still answer e-mail questions about your documents. Cheers, Karen _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3345 / Virus Database: 3199/6401 - Release Date: 06/11/13 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danc at uw.edu Tue Jun 11 11:08:13 2013 From: danc at uw.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Problems Using Kurzweil Read the Web with Canvas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Larry, I'll chime in and say the culprit is as likely to be Canvas as it is to be the AT. And many here know There's information rendered by the Canvas LMS in fashions that are opaque or difficult for various AT programs. The last Canvas VPAT I read is not an accurate representation of its actual accessibility at this time. In this case the optimum solution is most likely to get the original source file from the instructor and have the student work with that in a proctored environment. -*- Dan Comden On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Larry Kiser wrote: > Dear Colleagues: > > > > Last week a student attempted to use the Kurzweil Read the Web feature > during an exam delivered through Canvas. In this instance and during a > follow-up diagnostic session with the student opening a practice quiz, > Kurzweil Read the Web read information on the screen randomly and announced > other information not readily viewable. During the exam the student was > able to use a Kurzweil taskbar feature, but this was slow because it > required the student to highlight questions with the pointer and drag it to > the taskbar. I reviewed the VPAT for Canvas, which indicated it was > compatible with screen readers. 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They'd have to dismiss the window before they can go back to interacting with the page, would be the biggest annoyance there. -Brian On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Larry Kiser wrote: > Dear Colleagues: > > > > Last week a student attempted to use the Kurzweil Read the Web feature > during an exam delivered through Canvas. In this instance and during a > follow-up diagnostic session with the student opening a practice quiz, > Kurzweil Read the Web read information on the screen randomly and announced > other information not readily viewable. During the exam the student was > able to use a Kurzweil taskbar feature, but this was slow because it > required the student to highlight questions with the pointer and drag it to > the taskbar. I reviewed the VPAT for Canvas, which indicated it was > compatible with screen readers. I emailed Kurzweil and received the > following response. > > > > Kurzweil Response > > Kurzweil 3000 and the Read the Web functionality provides limited > recognition outside of the program itself. The current read the web add on, > kesireader.xpi, can only recognized plain text/basic html websites. It is > not uncommon that websites that are generated in use or that contain > windows within windows to have issues recognizing text. I would recommend > that you update your current version of the Kurzweil 3000 software, update > the kesireader.xpi and test the reader on plain text/basic html websites, > should the problem continue within these websites, we may be able to > determine what the cause is. For more complicated websites, such as script > bases information or test taking websites, I'd recommend that you print > them to Kurzweil 3000 using the KESI Virtual Printer. In the case of a > Macintosh, print the site to PDF and then open that in Kurzweil 3000. This > alternative can provide the student access to the materials for reading, > however, they may need to go back to the website to introduce their answers. > > > > > > We are already using the most recent version of K3000. It is not feasible > to print the exam using the Kesi Virtual Printer as suggested. Any > thoughts would be helpful. > > > > Larry Kiser > > Counseling Specialist > > Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 > > Santa Fe College > > Gainesville, FL 32606 > > Phone: 352-395-4429 > > Fax: 352-395-4100 > > > ------------------------------ > Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all > correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to > disclosure. > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu Wed Jun 12 12:12:00 2013 From: larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu (Larry Kiser) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Problems Using Kurzweil Read the Web with Canvas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Brian: Yes our K3000 does have Image Reader. As you point out it would be a significant issue in a timed test situation. Thanks for the thought however. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 From: Brian Richwine [mailto:blrichwine@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:01 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Problems Using Kurzweil Read the Web with Canvas Doesn't the latest Kurzweil 3000 for Windows (version 13) have a screen snapshot reader? If the text is clear enough on the screen, then it should be able to capture the image of the canvas content, perform OCR on it, and then allow the student to read it. They'd have to dismiss the window before they can go back to interacting with the page, would be the biggest annoyance there. -Brian On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Larry Kiser > wrote: Dear Colleagues: Last week a student attempted to use the Kurzweil Read the Web feature during an exam delivered through Canvas. In this instance and during a follow-up diagnostic session with the student opening a practice quiz, Kurzweil Read the Web read information on the screen randomly and announced other information not readily viewable. During the exam the student was able to use a Kurzweil taskbar feature, but this was slow because it required the student to highlight questions with the pointer and drag it to the taskbar. I reviewed the VPAT for Canvas, which indicated it was compatible with screen readers. I emailed Kurzweil and received the following response. Kurzweil Response Kurzweil 3000 and the Read the Web functionality provides limited recognition outside of the program itself. The current read the web add on, kesireader.xpi, can only recognized plain text/basic html websites. It is not uncommon that websites that are generated in use or that contain windows within windows to have issues recognizing text. I would recommend that you update your current version of the Kurzweil 3000 software, update the kesireader.xpi and test the reader on plain text/basic html websites, should the problem continue within these websites, we may be able to determine what the cause is. For more complicated websites, such as script bases information or test taking websites, I'd recommend that you print them to Kurzweil 3000 using the KESI Virtual Printer. In the case of a Macintosh, print the site to PDF and then open that in Kurzweil 3000. This alternative can provide the student access to the materials for reading, however, they may need to go back to the website to introduce their answers. We are already using the most recent version of K3000. It is not feasible to print the exam using the Kesi Virtual Printer as suggested. Any thoughts would be helpful. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 ________________________________ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Fri Jun 14 10:14:33 2013 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] EASI Webinar Monday: Comparison of LMS Systems Accessibility Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20130614100720.024f82d8@pop.gmail.com> Monday June 17 Webinar Comparing the Accessibility of LMS Systems: 11 Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central, 2 Eastern Several university adaptive technology professionals did a survey of the accessibility of several popular LMS systems. In this Webinar, they will explain the criteria used in the study, how it was done and explain the results. All of this has the caveat that these systems, as with everything digital, are change almost daily. This Webinar is a free EASI--hosted Webinar. Read more and register at http://easi.cc/clinic.htm/#june If you register late on Sunday or on Monday, you will be taken to a web page called entrance-late which you should bookmark and return to it as the page where you log in on Monday. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It's never too late to become what you might have been. George Eliot Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com Making Online Teaching Accessible: Inclusive Course Design for Students with Disabilities by Norman Coombs published by Jossey-Bass Oct 10,2010 http://www.josseybass.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470499044.html From ron at altformatsolutions.com Fri Jun 14 21:28:18 2013 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Morally repugnant Message-ID: <001b01ce6980$c3922bb0$4ab68310$@altformatsolutions.com> Hi all, I just to have to say something and I hope that you will also take action. As a person who has devoted most of my career to inclusion I cannot sit on this without a call to action. Not sure why, tiredness I guess, but by happenstance today I turned on my hotel TV today and was exposed to something that I find so offensive that I can keep silent. In a late night show, Jimmy Kimmel, presented a skit by Will Smith that was based on a blind referee, the display of the key person as a cane user who was trying to be a referee, and having not impact. This skit presents every that is wrong with the typical presentation of folks with blindness and low visions. It presents this group in such a negative light that I cannot chock it up to the usual excuses of we were just trying to be humorous. From my perspective it is similar to what we have overcome with we see the "jockey" statute on the front line. I would hope that you would facilitate this effort by contacting the sponsor broadcaster, ABC, in bringing this reprehensible before their attention and that they take corporate action to insure that they present disability as a common life experience and additionally not use the impact of disability as a crass and baseless of humor. Those of you who know me can perhaps better articulate the point that I am trying to make. I am making my best effort to be articulate, but this is so upsetting to me that I am having a very hard time. Ron Stewart **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Fri Jun 14 21:32:30 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Morally repugnant Message-ID: <003801ce6981$59152a20$0b3f7e60$@ahead.org> Hi all, I just to have to say something and I hope that you will also take action. As a person who has devoted most of my career to inclusion I cannot sit on this without a call to action. Not sure why, tiredness I guess, but by happenstance today I turned on my hotel TV today and was exposed to something that I find so offensive that I can keep silent. In a late night show, Jimmy Kimmel, presented a skit by Will Smith that was based on a blind referee, the display of the key person as a cane user who was trying to be a referee, and having not impact. This skit presents every that is wrong with the typical presentation of folks with blindness and low visions. It presents this group in such a negative light that I cannot chock it up to the usual excuses of we were just trying to be humorous. From my perspective it is similar to what we have overcome with we see the "jockey" statute on the front line. I would hope that you would facilitate this effort by contacting the sponsor broadcaster, ABC, in bringing this reprehensible before their attention and that they take corporate action to insure that they present disability as a common life experience and additionally not use the impact of disability as a crass and baseless of humor. Those of you who know me can perhaps better articulate the point that I am trying to make. I am making my best effort to be articulate, but this is so upsetting to me that I am having a very hard time. 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In-Reply-To: <7790f807a5858.51c0bcb5@wiscmail.wisc.edu> References: <76c0e078a7147.51c0bb48@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <772084d7a35a0.51c0bbc1@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <76e0cc00a1ed5.51c0bc00@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <76e0d07aa2bc1.51c0bc3c@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <77909a73a40eb.51c0bc79@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <7790f807a5858.51c0bcb5@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <7780801fa7ed2.51c076a0@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Good afternoon: Checking to see what work flows others might have written up or use to get the best conversion of Microsoft Word math documents (.doc and .docx with embedded Equation Editor and/or MathType equations) to Nemeth Braille. Thank you, Todd Schwanke UW-Madison From lissner.2 at osu.edu Wed Jun 19 10:13:22 2013 From: lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, L S. (Scott )) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Career Opportunity at The Ohio State University: Enterprise Applications Accessibility Analyst Message-ID: This position is within our OCIO?s office but will be part of a team focused on providing seamless access that includes Ken Petri who directs our Web Accessibility Center, Distance Learning, Division based IT units, and my office. Scott Working Title: Accessibility Analyst Title: Systems Analyst Department: OCIO Enterprise Applications Posting Number: 376431 Target Salary: $49,000 - $57,000 Annually Posting Date: 06/15/2013 Posting End Date: 06/30/2013 Application Link: https://www.jobsatosu.com/postings/49013 In cooperation with the Marketing, Communications, & Training group, the OCIO Accessibility Analyst will lead the effort in the OCIO to adopt and implement a strategy to evaluate the ADA compliance and accessibility of all software and related materials within the OCIO. The strategy will include a review plan for existing software based on risk and system usage, a process to evaluate all new software before purchase, a training program to enable key personnel across the OCIO to conduct evaluations, and the creation of a cross-departmental Accessibility Group to raise awareness of Accessibility and to discuss RFP?s, new software, items currently under review, and upcoming significant projects. Bachelor?s degree or an equivalent combination of education and experience; 1-2 years of experience creating and implementing new processes in an information technology shop; excellent verbal and written communication skills; deep understanding of tools to aid in Accessibility evaluation; understanding of and passion for Accessibility issues and proven ability to set and meet targets If you are interested in this position, you can apply on our employment site at: www.jobsatosu.com; https://www.jobsatosu.com/postings/49013 Dept Contact Name: Kathryn Marie Braidic; 614/292-7295 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blrichwine at gmail.com Wed Jun 19 15:26:36 2013 From: blrichwine at gmail.com (Brian Richwine) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Word/MathType to Nemeth Braille work flow? In-Reply-To: <7780801fa7ed2.51c076a0@wiscmail.wisc.edu> References: <76c0e078a7147.51c0bb48@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <772084d7a35a0.51c0bbc1@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <76e0cc00a1ed5.51c0bc00@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <76e0d07aa2bc1.51c0bc3c@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <77909a73a40eb.51c0bc79@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <7790f807a5858.51c0bcb5@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <7780801fa7ed2.51c076a0@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Message-ID: Hello Todd, We do the following: 1. Open word document containing MathType equations in the Duxbury Braille Translator (the computer must also have MathType installed on it as Duxbury will call on MathType to in the conversion process). 2. Format for document braille as normal 3. Then, very important, proof the document. 1. This requires two people: 1. a person who can read Nemeth braille -- we use a refreshable braille display and proof straight from Duxbury so corrections can be made on the fly (referred to as the braille reader below) 2. a sighted proofreader who understands the math notation involved and can verify the result is correct. 2. If the document wasn't originally created in MathType by the original content creator, then the sighted user must look at the original source (paper, PDF, etc.) in case mistakes were made while entering the equations into MathType. 3. The braille reader must go through the document from top to bottom in Duxbury and read each instance of Nemeth braille they find. At the same time, the sighted proofreader is looking through the print document to make sure no math content was missed. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT -- Duxbury will fail silently when some errors in the conversion process from MathType to Nemeth occur!! This is frustrating. Equations / math content will simply disappear. 4. The braille reader reads each instance of math to the sighted proofreader. The conversion process has improved somewhat somewhere in the most recent versions of MathType and Duxbury. It used to be much worse at dropping math content and making other errors. Frequent conversion errors that we see are repeated terms. For instance, (a+c)/d might become (a+b)/(a+b)d in the Nemeth braille. It requires a lot of concentration on the part of the proofreaders to catch the mistakes. I'm not sure that the process will work with the stock Microsoft Equation editor. When we tried it a few years ago, it didn't work and we had to use MathType. When we have to do a lot of math braille production (like an entire textbook), we usually contract a certified braille transcriber to do it. The usually enter the Nemeth braille directly by sight and it is much less error prone and is much cheaper than what we can do in house. We usually do smaller, time sensitive jobs (like a study guide, quiz, exam, etc.) in house. -Brian On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Todd Schwanke wrote: > Good afternoon: > > Checking to see what work flows others might have written up or use to get > the best conversion of Microsoft Word math documents (.doc and .docx with > embedded Equation Editor and/or MathType equations) to Nemeth Braille. > > Thank you, > Todd Schwanke > UW-Madison > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Thu Jun 20 09:49:33 2013 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Word/MathType to Nemeth Braille work flow? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <323937811.3993461.1371746973746.JavaMail.root@stanford.edu> We have (essentially) the same workflow that Brian outlined in terms of converting MS Word documents to Nemeth via Duxbury. We have a few "Nemeth-familiar" transcribers who are sighted and can do the math corrections in Duxbury while reviewing the document. During production, these transcribers work together to improve the accuracy of the final materials. We also do outsourcing as well for some textbook chapters while concentrating on the tactile graphics, lecture notes, and handouts for in-house production. While the conversion from MS Word+MathType to Nemeth via Duxbury has gotten better in the recent version, there are still times when you need to verify the conversion is correct. If someone is doing just the automatic conversion, then there will be errors. Additionally, you can encounter issues with formatting where there is either too much or too little spacing applied to the braille document that makes it more challenging to read. We have had to check how the student wants to read the Nemeth materials. If the student is using a refreshable braille display, then we pay very close attention to the line length; what looked "good" in Duxbury for embossing may not render well on a portable braille display. Do not use the embedded Equation Editor in MS Word. You need to use MathType for MS Word documents. Take care, Sean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Richwine" To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:26:36 PM Subject: Re: [Athen] Word/MathType to Nemeth Braille work flow? Hello Todd, We do the following: 1. Open word document containing MathType equations in the Duxbury Braille Translator (the computer must also have MathType installed on it as Duxbury will call on MathType to in the conversion process). 2. Format for document braille as normal 3. Then, very important, proof the document. 1. This requires two people: 1. a person who can read Nemeth braille -- we use a refreshable braille display and proof straight from Duxbury so corrections can be made on the fly (referred to as the braille reader below) 2. a sighted proofreader who understands the math notation involved and can verify the result is correct. 2. If the document wasn't originally created in MathType by the original content creator, then the sighted user must look at the original source (paper, PDF, etc.) in case mistakes were made while entering the equations into MathType. 3. The braille reader must go through the document from top to bottom in Duxbury and read each instance of Nemeth braille they find. At the same time, the sighted proofreader is looking through the print document to make sure no math content was missed. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT -- Duxbury will fail silently when some errors in the conversion process from MathType to Nemeth occur!! This is frustrating. Equations / math content will simply disappear. 4. The braille reader reads each instance of math to the sighted proofreader. The conversion process has improved somewhat somewhere in the most recent versions of MathType and Duxbury. It used to be much worse at dropping math content and making other errors. Frequent conversion errors that we see are repeated terms. For instance, (a+c)/d might become (a+b)/(a+b)d in the Nemeth braille. It requires a lot of concentration on the part of the proofreaders to catch the mistakes. I'm not sure that the process will work with the stock Microsoft Equation editor. When we tried it a few years ago, it didn't work and we had to use MathType. When we have to do a lot of math braille production (like an entire textbook), we usually contract a certified braille transcriber to do it. The usually enter the Nemeth braille directly by sight and it is much less error prone and is much cheaper than what we can do in house. We usually do smaller, time sensitive jobs (like a study guide, quiz, exam, etc.) in house. -Brian On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Todd Schwanke < tschwanke@wisc.edu > wrote: Good afternoon: Checking to see what work flows others might have written up or use to get the best conversion of Microsoft Word math documents (.doc and .docx with embedded Equation Editor and/or MathType equations) to Nemeth Braille. Thank you, Todd Schwanke UW-Madison _______________________________________________ From Catherine.Stager at Colorado.EDU Thu Jun 20 13:51:37 2013 From: Catherine.Stager at Colorado.EDU (Catherine Stager) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Word/MathType to Nemeth Braille work flow? In-Reply-To: <323937811.3993461.1371746973746.JavaMail.root@stanford.edu> References: <323937811.3993461.1371746973746.JavaMail.root@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <83F43AAD78907C4F919AFB7E5E92B4FDB2DD6E034F@EXC2.ad.colorado.edu> We also are doing similar process: I echo Sean's comment about paying attention to line length and want to mention to pay attention to line breaks and page breaks as well. We also go from LaTex to Nemeth. If bringing LaTex into DBT remember to bring it in as a standard literary format (even if the is counterintuitive.) Has anyone looked at or used WIRIS.Com? or WIRIS editor? http://www.wiris.com/ MathML and LaTex interface all written in HTML5. They really talk up their accessibility. JAWS did okay with inputting math into it but you can't move character by character to edit and get spoken output. You can get to the spoken math in a separate section but would have to jump between the two sections. Interesting though. Comments? Thanks, Cath -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Word/MathType to Nemeth Braille work flow? We have (essentially) the same workflow that Brian outlined in terms of converting MS Word documents to Nemeth via Duxbury. We have a few "Nemeth-familiar" transcribers who are sighted and can do the math corrections in Duxbury while reviewing the document. During production, these transcribers work together to improve the accuracy of the final materials. We also do outsourcing as well for some textbook chapters while concentrating on the tactile graphics, lecture notes, and handouts for in-house production. While the conversion from MS Word+MathType to Nemeth via Duxbury has gotten better in the recent version, there are still times when you need to verify the conversion is correct. If someone is doing just the automatic conversion, then there will be errors. Additionally, you can encounter issues with formatting where there is either too much or too little spacing applied to the braille document that makes it more challenging to read. We have had to check how the student wants to read the Nemeth materials. If the student is using a refreshable braille display, then we pay very close attention to the line length; what looked "good" in Duxbury for embossing may not render well on a portable braille display. Do not use the embedded Equation Editor in MS Word. You need to use MathType for MS Word documents. Take care, Sean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Richwine" To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:26:36 PM Subject: Re: [Athen] Word/MathType to Nemeth Braille work flow? Hello Todd, We do the following: 1. Open word document containing MathType equations in the Duxbury Braille Translator (the computer must also have MathType installed on it as Duxbury will call on MathType to in the conversion process). 2. Format for document braille as normal 3. Then, very important, proof the document. 1. This requires two people: 1. a person who can read Nemeth braille -- we use a refreshable braille display and proof straight from Duxbury so corrections can be made on the fly (referred to as the braille reader below) 2. a sighted proofreader who understands the math notation involved and can verify the result is correct. 2. If the document wasn't originally created in MathType by the original content creator, then the sighted user must look at the original source (paper, PDF, etc.) in case mistakes were made while entering the equations into MathType. 3. The braille reader must go through the document from top to bottom in Duxbury and read each instance of Nemeth braille they find. At the same time, the sighted proofreader is looking through the print document to make sure no math content was missed. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT -- Duxbury will fail silently when some errors in the conversion process from MathType to Nemeth occur!! This is frustrating. Equations / math content will simply disappear. 4. The braille reader reads each instance of math to the sighted proofreader. The conversion process has improved somewhat somewhere in the most recent versions of MathType and Duxbury. It used to be much worse at dropping math content and making other errors. Frequent conversion errors that we see are repeated terms. For instance, (a+c)/d might become (a+b)/(a+b)d in the Nemeth braille. It requires a lot of concentration on the part of the proofreaders to catch the mistakes. I'm not sure that the process will work with the stock Microsoft Equation editor. When we tried it a few years ago, it didn't work and we had to use MathType. When we have to do a lot of math braille production (like an entire textbook), we usually contract a certified braille transcriber to do it. The usually enter the Nemeth braille directly by sight and it is much less error prone and is much cheaper than what we can do in house. We usually do smaller, time sensitive jobs (like a study guide, quiz, exam, etc.) in house. -Brian On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Todd Schwanke < tschwanke@wisc.edu > wrote: Good afternoon: Checking to see what work flows others might have written up or use to get the best conversion of Microsoft Word math documents (.doc and .docx with embedded Equation Editor and/or MathType equations) to Nemeth Braille. Thank you, Todd Schwanke UW-Madison _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From petri.1 at osu.edu Fri Jun 21 08:14:43 2013 From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Ken Petri) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Word/MathType to Nemeth Braille work flow? In-Reply-To: <83F43AAD78907C4F919AFB7E5E92B4FDB2DD6E034F@EXC2.ad.colorado.edu> References: <323937811.3993461.1371746973746.JavaMail.root@stanford.edu> <83F43AAD78907C4F919AFB7E5E92B4FDB2DD6E034F@EXC2.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: Hi Cath, Off the topic of Nemeth Braille and on to browser-based math and math editors, in response to the second part of your email: I took a look at WIRIS. It seems pretty impressive. I was googling around and found Brian R. discussing WIRIS in conjunction with Sakai's math editor. The post is more than a year old. He was proposing that if Sakai use WIRIS as an editor that it use MathJax to render out the resulting equation from the WIRIS-generated MathML. I'm not sure what Sakai is doing, but I could envision a set up where WIRIS is used as an editor (visual editor for those who can use those controls and raw LaTeX input for screen reader users, perhaps?) and then use WIRIS MathML output, run through MathJax. For broader accessibility, you could also put WIRIS' plain text output onto the page. Anybody doing something like this? (Also, most of WIRIS is keyboard accessible, but I could not figure out if there was a keyboard shortcut to move between the formula tabs.) ken On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Catherine Stager < Catherine.Stager@colorado.edu> wrote: > We also are doing similar process: I echo Sean's comment about paying > attention to line length and want to mention to pay attention to line > breaks and page breaks as well. > > We also go from LaTex to Nemeth. If bringing LaTex into DBT remember to > bring it in as a standard literary format (even if the is counterintuitive.) > > Has anyone looked at or used WIRIS.Com? or WIRIS editor? > http://www.wiris.com/ MathML and LaTex interface all written in HTML5. > They really talk up their accessibility. > > JAWS did okay with inputting math into it but you can't move character by > character to edit and get spoken output. You can get to the spoken math in > a separate section but would have to jump between the two sections. > Interesting though. > > Comments? > Thanks, > Cath > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: > athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:50 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Word/MathType to Nemeth Braille work flow? > > We have (essentially) the same workflow that Brian outlined in terms of > converting MS Word documents to Nemeth via Duxbury. We have a few > "Nemeth-familiar" transcribers who are sighted and can do the math > corrections in Duxbury while reviewing the document. During production, > these transcribers work together to improve the accuracy of the final > materials. We also do outsourcing as well for some textbook chapters while > concentrating on the tactile graphics, lecture notes, and handouts for > in-house production. > > While the conversion from MS Word+MathType to Nemeth via Duxbury has > gotten better in the recent version, there are still times when you need to > verify the conversion is correct. If someone is doing just the automatic > conversion, then there will be errors. Additionally, you can encounter > issues with formatting where there is either too much or too little spacing > applied to the braille document that makes it more challenging to read. We > have had to check how the student wants to read the Nemeth materials. If > the student is using a refreshable braille display, then we pay very close > attention to the line length; what looked "good" in Duxbury for embossing > may not render well on a portable braille display. > > Do not use the embedded Equation Editor in MS Word. You need to use > MathType for MS Word documents. > > Take care, > Sean > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Richwine" > To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:26:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Athen] Word/MathType to Nemeth Braille work flow? > > > Hello Todd, > > We do the following: > > 1. Open word document containing MathType equations in the Duxbury > Braille Translator (the computer must also have MathType installed on it as > Duxbury will call on MathType to in the conversion process). > 2. Format for document braille as normal > 3. Then, very important, proof the document. > > > 1. This requires two people: > > > 1. a person who can read Nemeth braille -- we use a > refreshable braille display and proof straight from Duxbury so corrections > can be made on the fly (referred to as the braille reader below) > 2. a sighted proofreader who understands the math notation > involved and can verify the result is correct. > 2. > If the document wasn't originally created in MathType by the original > content creator, then the sighted user must look at the original source > (paper, PDF, etc.) in case mistakes were made while entering the equations > into MathType. 3. The braille reader must go through the document > from top to bottom in Duxbury and read each instance of Nemeth braille they > find. At the same time, the sighted proofreader is looking through the > print document to make sure no math content was missed. THIS IS VERY > IMPORTANT -- Duxbury will fail silently when some errors in the conversion > process from MathType to Nemeth occur!! This is frustrating. Equations / > math content will simply disappear. > 4. The braille reader reads each instance of math to the sighted > proofreader. > > > > The conversion process has improved somewhat somewhere in the most recent > versions of MathType and Duxbury. It used to be much worse at dropping math > content and making other errors. Frequent conversion errors that we see are > repeated terms. For instance, (a+c)/d might become (a+b)/(a+b)d in the > Nemeth braille. It requires a lot of concentration on the part of the > proofreaders to catch the mistakes. > > > I'm not sure that the process will work with the stock Microsoft Equation > editor. When we tried it a few years ago, it didn't work and we had to use > MathType. > > When we have to do a lot of math braille production (like an entire > textbook), we usually contract a certified braille transcriber to do it. > The usually enter the Nemeth braille directly by sight and it is much less > error prone and is much cheaper than what we can do in house. We usually do > smaller, time sensitive jobs (like a study guide, quiz, exam, etc.) in > house. > > -Brian > > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Todd Schwanke < tschwanke@wisc.edu > > wrote: > > > Good afternoon: > > Checking to see what work flows others might have written up or use to get > the best conversion of Microsoft Word math documents (.doc and .docx with > embedded Equation Editor and/or MathType equations) to Nemeth Braille. > > Thank you, > Todd Schwanke > UW-Madison > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tschwanke at wisc.edu Fri Jun 21 13:41:00 2013 From: tschwanke at wisc.edu (Todd Schwanke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Word/MathType to Nemeth Braille work flow? In-Reply-To: <76b0addfad0fb.51c4ba28@wiscmail.wisc.edu> References: <7570c140ab38c.51c4b9ec@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <76b0addfad0fb.51c4ba28@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <76e0c05aadc31.51c4740c@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Thanks all for sharing your work flows and experiences! Sounds like the challenges are similar, along with the work flows. A few follow-up questions. * When producing these books, do you use the convention of doing all numbers and symbols in Nemeth even if they are in a paragraph, or do you switch back and forth between literary for paragraphs and Nemeth for stand-alone equations? * Are you aware of any active efforts to improve the conversion of Word/MathType documents in Duxbury? It seems there are a number of common conversion issues that always need to be corrected manually. * From a Word document with MathType, have you had any better or consistent luck going to another format like LaTeX before converting to Nemeth Braille? * Is anyone using the Duxbury Word 2010 template to format their documents for improved conversion? * Does anyone have any students who are using a Braille display (rather than speech) in conjunction with MathML in IE for textbooks, instead of Nemeth Braille? If so, what have been the differences/advantages/disadvantages both from the student's and production perspectives? Thank you and happy summer! Todd UW-Madison On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Catherine Stager wrote: We also are doing similar process: I echo Sean's comment about paying attention to line length and want to mention to pay attention to line breaks and page breaks as well. We also go from LaTex to Nemeth. If bringing LaTex into DBT remember to bring it in as a standard literary format (even if the is counterintuitive.) Has anyone looked at or used WIRIS.Com? or WIRIS editor? http://www.wiris.com/ MathML and LaTex interface all written in HTML5. They really talk up their accessibility. JAWS did okay with inputting math into it but you can't move character by character to edit and get spoken output. You can get to the spoken math in a separate section but would have to jump between the two sections. Interesting though. Comments? Thanks, Cath -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Word/MathType to Nemeth Braille work flow? We have (essentially) the same workflow that Brian outlined in terms of converting MS Word documents to Nemeth via Duxbury. We have a few "Nemeth-familiar" transcribers who are sighted and can do the math corrections in Duxbury while reviewing the document. During production, these transcribers work together to improve the accuracy of the final materials. We also do outsourcing as well for some textbook chapters while concentrating on the tactile graphics, lecture notes, and handouts for in-house production. While the conversion from MS Word+MathType to Nemeth via Duxbury has gotten better in the recent version, there are still times when you need to verify the conversion is correct. If someone is doing just the automatic conversion, then there will be errors. Additionally, you can encounter issues with formatting where there is either too much or too little spacing applied to the braille document that makes it more challenging to read. We have had to check how the student wants to read the Nemeth materials. If the student is using a refreshable braille display, then we pay very close attention to the line length; what looked "good" in Duxbury for embossing may not render well on a portable braille display. Do not use the embedded Equation Editor in MS Word. You need to use MathType for MS Word documents. Take care, Sean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Richwine" To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network" Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:26:36 PM Subject: Re: [Athen] Word/MathType to Nemeth Braille work flow? Hello Todd, We do the following: 1. Open word document containing MathType equations in the Duxbury Braille Translator (the computer must also have MathType installed on it as Duxbury will call on MathType to in the conversion process). 2. Format for document braille as normal 3. Then, very important, proof the document. 1. This requires two people: 1. a person who can read Nemeth braille -- we use a refreshable braille display and proof straight from Duxbury so corrections can be made on the fly (referred to as the braille reader below) 2. a sighted proofreader who understands the math notation involved and can verify the result is correct. 2. If the document wasn't originally created in MathType by the original content creator, then the sighted user must look at the original source (paper, PDF, etc.) in case mistakes were made while entering the equations into MathType. 3. The braille reader must go through the document from top to bottom in Duxbury and read each instance of Nemeth braille they find. At the same time, the sighted proofreader is looking through the print document to make sure no math content was missed. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT -- Duxbury will fail silently when some errors in the conversion process from MathType to Nemeth occur!! This is frustrating. Equations / math content will simply disappear. 4. The braille reader reads each instance of math to the sighted proofreader. The conversion process has improved somewhat somewhere in the most recent versions of MathType and Duxbury. It used to be much worse at dropping math content and making other errors. Frequent conversion errors that we see are repeated terms. For instance, (a+c)/d might become (a+b)/(a+b)d in the Nemeth braille. It requires a lot of concentration on the part of the proofreaders to catch the mistakes. I'm not sure that the process will work with the stock Microsoft Equation editor. When we tried it a few years ago, it didn't work and we had to use MathType. When we have to do a lot of math braille production (like an entire textbook), we usually contract a certified braille transcriber to do it. The usually enter the Nemeth braille directly by sight and it is much less error prone and is much cheaper than what we can do in house. We usually do smaller, time sensitive jobs (like a study guide, quiz, exam, etc.) in house. -Brian On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Todd Schwanke < tschwanke@wisc.edu > wrote: Good afternoon: Checking to see what work flows others might have written up or use to get the best conversion of Microsoft Word math documents (.doc and .docx with embedded Equation Editor and/or MathType equations) to Nemeth Braille. Thank you, Todd Schwanke UW-Madison _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From tft at uw.edu Mon Jun 24 08:52:40 2013 From: tft at uw.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Seeking Drupal Accessibility Testers Message-ID: Hi All, If your institution is like mine, you're probably seeing more and more of your web developers building their sites using Drupal. Therefore it behooves us to ensure Drupal is accessible, and that it produces fully accessible content. The Drupal community has expressed a sincere commitment to accessibility, but they need help getting there. They're currently working on development of the next version (Drupal 8) and I offered to recruit people to help test accessibility of Drupal Core (the default Drupal installation, before extending its functionality with new themes or modules). Here's the plan: 1. The Drupal Accessibility community will provide scripts with tasks/scenarios for testers to walk through. These will all be focused on authoring, editing, and administrative functions for creating or managing a Drupal site, but we'll also be interested in reviewing accessibility of the output. 2. Between July 1 and July 12, testers will walk step through the scripts using a variety of modalities (e.g., keyboard only, or with various assistive technologies) 3. I'll summarize any problems we identify in a report that I'll share with Drupal developers. 4. July 18-20, there will be an accessibility code sprint at Twin Cities DrupalCamp, where volunteers will work on coding solutions to the problems we identify. They'll also be conducting their own face-to-face usability/accessibility tests at the camp. http://2013.tcdrupal.org/ If you're interested in helping out with this effort, please let me know. We need people to participate as testers from July 1-12. Also if you're planning to attend the Twin Cities DrupalCamp we'd love to have your help there too. Please spread the word among anyone else you think would be interested, especially assistive technology users. Standing by for volunteers... Thanks! Terrill -- Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology UW Information Technology University of Washington tft@uw.edu 206-221-4168 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They're currently working on development > of the next version (Drupal 8) and I offered to recruit people to help test > accessibility of Drupal Core (the default Drupal installation, before > extending its functionality with new themes or modules). > > Here's the plan: > > 1. The Drupal Accessibility community will provide scripts with > tasks/scenarios for testers to walk through. These will all be focused on > authoring, editing, and administrative functions for creating or managing a > Drupal site, but we'll also be interested in reviewing accessibility of the > output. > > 2. Between July 1 and July 12, testers will walk step through the scripts > using a variety of modalities (e.g., keyboard only, or with various > assistive technologies) > > 3. I'll summarize any problems we identify in a report that I'll share > with Drupal developers. > > 4. July 18-20, there will be an accessibility code sprint at Twin Cities > DrupalCamp, where volunteers will work on coding solutions to the problems > we identify. They'll also be conducting their own face-to-face > usability/accessibility tests at the camp. > http://2013.tcdrupal.org/ > > If you're interested in helping out with this effort, please let me know. > We need people to participate as testers from July 1-12. Also if you're > planning to attend the Twin Cities DrupalCamp we'd love to have your help > there too. > > Please spread the word among anyone else you think would be interested, > especially assistive technology users. > > Standing by for volunteers... > > Thanks! > Terrill > > -- > Terrill Thompson > Technology Accessibility Specialist > DO-IT, Accessible Technology > UW Information Technology > University of Washington > tft@uw.edu > 206-221-4168 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsuttondc at gmail.com Mon Jun 24 10:46:37 2013 From: jsuttondc at gmail.com (Jennifer Sutton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] Seeking Drupal Accessibility Testers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20130624103125.006e6b88@gmail.com> Greetings, Athenites: I'm very pleased to see this effort to continue to improve accessibility in "DrupalLand," along with the specific upcoming focus in the Twin Cities area. Thanks in advance to all of those who participate and contribute, whether from there or afar. In case some may find it helpful, I thought I'd provide a link to some resources that Laura Carlson's collected on Drupal; many relate to accessibility. Start here: Web Design References Drupal http://www.d.umn.edu/itss/training/online/webdesign/drupal.html Best, Jennifer At 08:52 AM 6/24/2013, you wrote: >Hi All, > >If your institution is like mine, you're probably seeing more and >more of your web developers building their sites using Drupal. >Therefore it behooves us to ensure Drupal is accessible, and that it >produces fully accessible content. > >The Drupal community has expressed a sincere commitment to >accessibility, but they need help getting there. They're currently >working on development of the next version (Drupal 8) and I offered >to recruit people to help test accessibility of Drupal Core (the >default Drupal installation, before extending its functionality with >new themes or modules). > >Here's the plan: > >1. The Drupal Accessibility community will provide scripts with >tasks/scenarios for testers to walk through. These will all be >focused on authoring, editing, and administrative functions for >creating or managing a Drupal site, but we'll also be interested in >reviewing accessibility of the output. > >2. Between July 1 and July 12, testers will walk step through the >scripts using a variety of modalities (e.g., keyboard only, or with >various assistive technologies) > >3. I'll summarize any problems we identify in a report that I'll >share with Drupal developers. > >4. July 18-20, there will be an accessibility code sprint at Twin >Cities DrupalCamp, where volunteers will work on coding solutions to >the problems we identify. They'll also be conducting their own >face-to-face usability/accessibility tests at the camp. >http://2013.tcdrupal.org/ > >If you're interested in helping out with this effort, please let me >know. We need people to participate as testers from July 1-12. Also >if you're planning to attend the Twin Cities DrupalCamp we'd love to >have your help there too. > >Please spread the word among anyone else you think would be >interested, especially assistive technology users. > >Standing by for volunteers... > >Thanks! >Terrill > >-- >Terrill Thompson >Technology Accessibility Specialist >DO-IT, Accessible Technology >UW Information Technology >University of Washington >tft@uw.edu >206-221-4168 >_______________________________________________ >athen-list mailing list >athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu >http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From jbailey at uoregon.edu Wed Jun 26 09:12:34 2013 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] sensusaccess and gmail Message-ID: Evidently there is currently an issue with sensusaccess returning converted files to gmail. They are aware of it and they are working with google on it. If you have a student encountering this problem, have them use a non-gmail account. This seems to be the solution until this is resolved. James Bailey M.S. Adaptive Tech Coordinator University of Oregon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at ucla.edu Wed Jun 26 10:36:45 2013 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:15 2018 Subject: [Athen] CampusCall Fundraising Software Message-ID: <201306261736.r5QHajVF009481@mail.ucla.edu> Hi all, Has anyone encountered the CampusCall call center program? Our Development Office uses it, & I'm testing it with Jaws 14. It's a single-screen web interface, with lots of mouseovers, "clickable" items, & not much semantic structure. I'd be interested to know what workarounds, scripts, etc. anyone else may have come up with. It might be manageable with some obscure Jaws commands, using Placemarkers, etc. Though I have my doubts about how that will all go together in a real-time calling environment. The main person I'm working with hasn't verified yet, but I think this is the right company & product description: http://www.ruffalocody.com/phonathon-software/strategies/campuscall/ Thanks for any assistance, Patrick -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke@ucla.edu Location: 4909 Math Science Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu