From Cassandra.Tex at humboldt.edu Fri Mar 1 11:05:00 2013 From: Cassandra.Tex at humboldt.edu (Cassandra L. Tex) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Face-Up Scanners or Stand-Along Scanners Message-ID: <001b31f7f0bc8d69fa772cfd92c2d737@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, Happy Friday (and sorry for the cross posting)? Are any of you using (or do your libraries have) face-up scanners or stand-alone scanners? I have a Canon-DR 9080C for alternate format production, but am looking for alternatives to traditional flat-bed scanning for Library books, print reserves, etc. (those times when it?s not practical to take the binding off the book). It?s not practical or efficient to use a traditional flat-bed scanner (not to mention the quality of flat-bed scanning ? flipping the book around, bending the spine, the curvature near the binding, etc). Wondering if face-up scanners or stand-alone scanners would meet this need, if the speed and quality of the scan is acceptable? Any help or guidance you may have would be appreciated! Makes/models and prices would also be welcomed! Thanks! Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University Student Disability Resource Center Arcata, CA 95521 tex@humboldt.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu Fri Mar 1 12:10:37 2013 From: larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu (Larry Kiser) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Face-Up Scanners or Stand-Along Scanners In-Reply-To: <001b31f7f0bc8d69fa772cfd92c2d737@mail.gmail.com> References: <001b31f7f0bc8d69fa772cfd92c2d737@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Check out Plustek OpticBook scanners. Relatively inexpensive, quick, and quality scan. The link to the Plustek website is http://plustek.com/usa/products/opticbook-series/. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 From: Cassandra L. Tex [mailto:Cassandra.Tex@humboldt.edu] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 2:05 PM To: Alt Media HTCTU Listserv; ATHEN Listserv Subject: [Athen] Face-Up Scanners or Stand-Along Scanners Hi All, Happy Friday (and sorry for the cross posting)... Are any of you using (or do your libraries have) face-up scanners or stand-alone scanners? I have a Canon-DR 9080C for alternate format production, but am looking for alternatives to traditional flat-bed scanning for Library books, print reserves, etc. (those times when it's not practical to take the binding off the book). It's not practical or efficient to use a traditional flat-bed scanner (not to mention the quality of flat-bed scanning - flipping the book around, bending the spine, the curvature near the binding, etc). Wondering if face-up scanners or stand-alone scanners would meet this need, if the speed and quality of the scan is acceptable? Any help or guidance you may have would be appreciated! Makes/models and prices would also be welcomed! Thanks! Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University Student Disability Resource Center Arcata, CA 95521 tex@humboldt.edu ________________________________ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu Wed Mar 6 09:12:42 2013 From: Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu (Kenneth Elkind) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Wed Mar 6 12:00:30 2013 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Wed Mar 6 12:22:38 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <009201ce1aa8$58bde170$0a39a450$@ahead.org> I am currently recommending the Fujitsu 6770 as a good second scanner. It also has flatbed capabilities and the auto feed can be set for top or bottom feed options. Downfall is it is probably 200 pages in the loader at a time. I have placed a couple of dozen of these at this point. Love to see them alongside the Canon DR-1050 which is the replacement for the 9080 series. Ron Stewart From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:01 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Wed Mar 6 12:26:01 2013 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: <009201ce1aa8$58bde170$0a39a450$@ahead.org> References: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <009201ce1aa8$58bde170$0a39a450$@ahead.org> Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C7A0E@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Many thanks, Ron, this is exactly what I needed. Cheers, Teresa From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:23 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners I am currently recommending the Fujitsu 6770 as a good second scanner. It also has flatbed capabilities and the auto feed can be set for top or bottom feed options. Downfall is it is probably 200 pages in the loader at a time. I have placed a couple of dozen of these at this point. Love to see them alongside the Canon DR-1050 which is the replacement for the 9080 series. Ron Stewart From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:01 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JPielaet at clark.edu Wed Mar 6 12:40:06 2013 From: JPielaet at clark.edu (Pielaet, Jon) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Message-ID: <0DCAA4C8ADB52849B978F000A4AB7669012E4BEE@Exch-Back-1.clark.edu> Hi Teresa, I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard from others.) We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us know what you discover. Good luck, Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 From: Kenneth Elkind Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/14e40698/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:00:30 +0000 From: Teresa Haven Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/b879a474/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list End of athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 ***************************************** From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Wed Mar 6 12:48:11 2013 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: <0DCAA4C8ADB52849B978F000A4AB7669012E4BEE@Exch-Back-1.clark.edu> References: <0DCAA4C8ADB52849B978F000A4AB7669012E4BEE@Exch-Back-1.clark.edu> Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C7C03@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Thanks, Jon. Like you, I have used Canons all my years in this field and love them. Price isn't an object in my program -- reliability is, so knowing the current-day Canons are still good in that respect is helpful. I will check with my campus Canon rep and see what they say might be available to me, along with checking on the models Ron recommended from our other vendor sources. If I have to justify for an out-of-network purchase I may ask folks for more data. Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi Teresa, I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard from others.) We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us know what you discover. Good luck, Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 From: Kenneth Elkind Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/14e40698/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:00:30 +0000 From: Teresa Haven Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/b879a474/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list End of athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From sbuckle5 at fau.edu Wed Mar 6 13:27:49 2013 From: sbuckle5 at fau.edu (Stuart Buckley) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <50645DC9D2909C4591BC6E9CCBABF63F09BF1439@EXCHANGEMB03.ad.fau.edu> Hello Teresa, I have to second Ron on the recommendation of the Fujitsu 6770. It is a solid scanner, and I have had absolutely no issues with it. It even endures use from our students, as well as the lab staff. We added this as a second scanner after our well-used Fujitsu 5750, which is still running strong with no issues either after several years use. Stuart Buckley Coordinator of Assistive Technology Florida Atlantic University Office for Students with Disabilities SU 80 Room 133 561.297.3880 561.297.2184 fax http://www.fau.edu/osd From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:01 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Wed Mar 6 13:30:17 2013 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: <50645DC9D2909C4591BC6E9CCBABF63F09BF1439@EXCHANGEMB03.ad.fau.edu> References: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <50645DC9D2909C4591BC6E9CCBABF63F09BF1439@EXCHANGEMB03.ad.fau.edu> Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C7E18@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Thanks for the testimonial, Stuart - all the data helps with the decision making. Cheers, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Stuart Buckley Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:28 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hello Teresa, I have to second Ron on the recommendation of the Fujitsu 6770. It is a solid scanner, and I have had absolutely no issues with it. It even endures use from our students, as well as the lab staff. We added this as a second scanner after our well-used Fujitsu 5750, which is still running strong with no issues either after several years use. Stuart Buckley Coordinator of Assistive Technology Florida Atlantic University Office for Students with Disabilities SU 80 Room 133 561.297.3880 561.297.2184 fax http://www.fau.edu/osd From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:01 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Wed Mar 6 13:42:34 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: <0DCAA4C8ADB52849B978F000A4AB7669012E4BEE@Exch-Back-1.clark.edu> References: <0DCAA4C8ADB52849B978F000A4AB7669012E4BEE@Exch-Back-1.clark.edu> Message-ID: <00df01ce1ab3$83c6b8f0$8b542ad0$@ahead.org> Hi all. The major problem is finding ones that work with a modern OS. I am maintaining an XP pro box to maintain my Canon 9080. I am not willing to spend the additional bucks for a Win7 scanner because I cannot justify it in my current life. I would not chose this as my primary production scanner, but it makes a great side scanner. Good flatbed, and also very useful with texts that need special handing. For those heavy clay based pages in the art appreciation books this is great since I can choose a top feed vs. a bottom feed. Just some thoughts but also a good conversation. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi Teresa, I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard from others.) We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us know what you discover. Good luck, Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 From: Kenneth Elkind Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.co m> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/1 4e40698/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:00:30 +0000 From: Teresa Haven Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/b 879a474/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list End of athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Wed Mar 6 13:49:28 2013 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: <00df01ce1ab3$83c6b8f0$8b542ad0$@ahead.org> References: <0DCAA4C8ADB52849B978F000A4AB7669012E4BEE@Exch-Back-1.clark.edu> <00df01ce1ab3$83c6b8f0$8b542ad0$@ahead.org> Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C7F4A@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Ah, very good point. We have had to maintain obsolete boxes to keep running our old Canon scanner, and the university really doesn't like that; if more recent Canons still require older OS versions then we may indeed need to purchase multiple brands to cover all our bases. Thanks for the reminder. Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:43 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all. The major problem is finding ones that work with a modern OS. I am maintaining an XP pro box to maintain my Canon 9080. I am not willing to spend the additional bucks for a Win7 scanner because I cannot justify it in my current life. I would not chose this as my primary production scanner, but it makes a great side scanner. Good flatbed, and also very useful with texts that need special handing. For those heavy clay based pages in the art appreciation books this is great since I can choose a top feed vs. a bottom feed. Just some thoughts but also a good conversation. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi Teresa, I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard from others.) We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us know what you discover. Good luck, Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 From: Kenneth Elkind Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.co m> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/1 4e40698/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:00:30 +0000 From: Teresa Haven Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/b 879a474/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list End of athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Wed Mar 6 15:02:49 2013 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C7F4A@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <0DCAA4C8ADB52849B978F000A4AB7669012E4BEE@Exch-Back-1.clark.edu> <00df01ce1ab3$83c6b8f0$8b542ad0$@ahead.org> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C7F4A@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F61C1F32E8@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> Hi all, Were there issues that you ran into with the Canon DR-9080C and Windows 7? I downloaded new drivers for our Canon DR-9080C for Windows 7 (x64) and quality of images scanned seems to have been maintained. The one work-around we had to incorporate for Windows 7 and our work process was to install Microsoft Office Document Imaging from Office 2003, which doesn't interfere with the MS Office 2010 we have installed. Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:49 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Ah, very good point. We have had to maintain obsolete boxes to keep running our old Canon scanner, and the university really doesn't like that; if more recent Canons still require older OS versions then we may indeed need to purchase multiple brands to cover all our bases. Thanks for the reminder. Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:43 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all. The major problem is finding ones that work with a modern OS. I am maintaining an XP pro box to maintain my Canon 9080. I am not willing to spend the additional bucks for a Win7 scanner because I cannot justify it in my current life. I would not chose this as my primary production scanner, but it makes a great side scanner. Good flatbed, and also very useful with texts that need special handing. For those heavy clay based pages in the art appreciation books this is great since I can choose a top feed vs. a bottom feed. Just some thoughts but also a good conversation. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi Teresa, I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard from others.) We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us know what you discover. Good luck, Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 From: Kenneth Elkind Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.co m> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/1 4e40698/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:00:30 +0000 From: Teresa Haven Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/b 879a474/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list End of athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Wed Mar 6 15:18:54 2013 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F61C1F32E8@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> References: <0DCAA4C8ADB52849B978F000A4AB7669012E4BEE@Exch-Back-1.clark.edu> <00df01ce1ab3$83c6b8f0$8b542ad0$@ahead.org> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C7F4A@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F61C1F32E8@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C81B3@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> We ran into difficulties initially getting the drivers to work on our version of Windows 7 (32), but ultimately managed to convince the computer and the scanner to cooperate, so long as we keep IT from messing with the image on that computer. Since we have managed computers here, they don't like us to have to customize any given machine for any reason, and each time there is a major university system update, we have to negotiate with IT to give our machines special handling. -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 4:03 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all, Were there issues that you ran into with the Canon DR-9080C and Windows 7? I downloaded new drivers for our Canon DR-9080C for Windows 7 (x64) and quality of images scanned seems to have been maintained. The one work-around we had to incorporate for Windows 7 and our work process was to install Microsoft Office Document Imaging from Office 2003, which doesn't interfere with the MS Office 2010 we have installed. Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:49 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Ah, very good point. We have had to maintain obsolete boxes to keep running our old Canon scanner, and the university really doesn't like that; if more recent Canons still require older OS versions then we may indeed need to purchase multiple brands to cover all our bases. Thanks for the reminder. Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:43 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all. The major problem is finding ones that work with a modern OS. I am maintaining an XP pro box to maintain my Canon 9080. I am not willing to spend the additional bucks for a Win7 scanner because I cannot justify it in my current life. I would not chose this as my primary production scanner, but it makes a great side scanner. Good flatbed, and also very useful with texts that need special handing. For those heavy clay based pages in the art appreciation books this is great since I can choose a top feed vs. a bottom feed. Just some thoughts but also a good conversation. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi Teresa, I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard from others.) We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us know what you discover. Good luck, Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 From: Kenneth Elkind Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.co m> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/1 4e40698/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:00:30 +0000 From: Teresa Haven Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/b 879a474/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list End of athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From ron at ahead.org Wed Mar 6 15:21:15 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F61C1F32E8@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> References: <0DCAA4C8ADB52849B978F000A4AB7669012E4BEE@Exch-Back-1.clark.edu> <00df01ce1ab3$83c6b8f0$8b542ad0$@ahead.org> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C7F4A@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F61C1F32E8@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <010d01ce1ac1$4ccf2fe0$e66d8fa0$@ahead.org> cool good to hear, a lot of folks have had issues with this. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:03 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all, Were there issues that you ran into with the Canon DR-9080C and Windows 7? I downloaded new drivers for our Canon DR-9080C for Windows 7 (x64) and quality of images scanned seems to have been maintained. The one work-around we had to incorporate for Windows 7 and our work process was to install Microsoft Office Document Imaging from Office 2003, which doesn't interfere with the MS Office 2010 we have installed. Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:49 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Ah, very good point. We have had to maintain obsolete boxes to keep running our old Canon scanner, and the university really doesn't like that; if more recent Canons still require older OS versions then we may indeed need to purchase multiple brands to cover all our bases. Thanks for the reminder. Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:43 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all. The major problem is finding ones that work with a modern OS. I am maintaining an XP pro box to maintain my Canon 9080. I am not willing to spend the additional bucks for a Win7 scanner because I cannot justify it in my current life. I would not chose this as my primary production scanner, but it makes a great side scanner. Good flatbed, and also very useful with texts that need special handing. For those heavy clay based pages in the art appreciation books this is great since I can choose a top feed vs. a bottom feed. Just some thoughts but also a good conversation. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi Teresa, I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard from others.) We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us know what you discover. Good luck, Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 From: Kenneth Elkind Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.co m> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/1 4e40698/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:00:30 +0000 From: Teresa Haven Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/b 879a474/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list End of athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From jbailey at uoregon.edu Wed Mar 6 16:18:02 2013 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F61C1F32E8@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> References: <0DCAA4C8ADB52849B978F000A4AB7669012E4BEE@Exch-Back-1.clark.edu> <00df01ce1ab3$83c6b8f0$8b542ad0$@ahead.org> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C7F4A@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F61C1F32E8@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> Message-ID: We're running our Canon DR-9080C on Windows 7 64 bit. -- James Bailey M.S. Adaptive Tech Coordinator University of Oregon -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:03 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all, Were there issues that you ran into with the Canon DR-9080C and Windows 7? I downloaded new drivers for our Canon DR-9080C for Windows 7 (x64) and quality of images scanned seems to have been maintained. The one work-around we had to incorporate for Windows 7 and our work process was to install Microsoft Office Document Imaging from Office 2003, which doesn't interfere with the MS Office 2010 we have installed. Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:49 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Ah, very good point. We have had to maintain obsolete boxes to keep running our old Canon scanner, and the university really doesn't like that; if more recent Canons still require older OS versions then we may indeed need to purchase multiple brands to cover all our bases. Thanks for the reminder. Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:43 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all. The major problem is finding ones that work with a modern OS. I am maintaining an XP pro box to maintain my Canon 9080. I am not willing to spend the additional bucks for a Win7 scanner because I cannot justify it in my current life. I would not chose this as my primary production scanner, but it makes a great side scanner. Good flatbed, and also very useful with texts that need special handing. For those heavy clay based pages in the art appreciation books this is great since I can choose a top feed vs. a bottom feed. Just some thoughts but also a good conversation. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi Teresa, I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard from others.) We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us know what you discover. Good luck, Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 From: Kenneth Elkind Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.co m> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/1 4e40698/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:00:30 +0000 From: Teresa Haven Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/b 879a474/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list End of athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From tschwanke at studentlife.wisc.edu Thu Mar 7 08:07:56 2013 From: tschwanke at studentlife.wisc.edu (Todd Schwanke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0MJA000C8ST9P620@smtpauth4.wiscmail.wisc.edu> Is anyone using a recent networked color copier that they would recommend? If so, could share brand/models? And, are you scanning to a file or directly into a software application? Thanks, Todd -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 6:18 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners We're running our Canon DR-9080C on Windows 7 64 bit. -- James Bailey M.S. Adaptive Tech Coordinator University of Oregon -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:03 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all, Were there issues that you ran into with the Canon DR-9080C and Windows 7? I downloaded new drivers for our Canon DR-9080C for Windows 7 (x64) and quality of images scanned seems to have been maintained. The one work-around we had to incorporate for Windows 7 and our work process was to install Microsoft Office Document Imaging from Office 2003, which doesn't interfere with the MS Office 2010 we have installed. Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:49 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Ah, very good point. We have had to maintain obsolete boxes to keep running our old Canon scanner, and the university really doesn't like that; if more recent Canons still require older OS versions then we may indeed need to purchase multiple brands to cover all our bases. Thanks for the reminder. Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:43 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all. The major problem is finding ones that work with a modern OS. I am maintaining an XP pro box to maintain my Canon 9080. I am not willing to spend the additional bucks for a Win7 scanner because I cannot justify it in my current life. I would not chose this as my primary production scanner, but it makes a great side scanner. Good flatbed, and also very useful with texts that need special handing. For those heavy clay based pages in the art appreciation books this is great since I can choose a top feed vs. a bottom feed. Just some thoughts but also a good conversation. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi Teresa, I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard from others.) We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us know what you discover. Good luck, Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 From: Kenneth Elkind Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.co m> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/1 4e40698/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:00:30 +0000 From: Teresa Haven Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/b 879a474/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list End of athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From tschwanke at wisc.edu Thu Mar 7 08:10:47 2013 From: tschwanke at wisc.edu (Todd Schwanke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: <77709250102d92.5138bbf0@wiscmail.wisc.edu> References: <7720fc18102c71.5138bbb3@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <77709250102d92.5138bbf0@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <7720e9ff100935.513867a7@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Is anyone using a recent networked color copier that they would recommend? If so, could share brand/models and what additional modules or add-ons that they were ordered with that relate to scanning functionality? Are you scanning to a file or directly into a software application? Thanks for all the discussion on this topic, Todd >> We're running our Canon DR-9080C on Windows 7 64 bit. -- James Bailey M.S. Adaptive Tech Coordinator University of Oregon -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:03 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all, Were there issues that you ran into with the Canon DR-9080C and Windows 7? I downloaded new drivers for our Canon DR-9080C for Windows 7 (x64) and quality of images scanned seems to have been maintained. The one work-around we had to incorporate for Windows 7 and our work process was to install Microsoft Office Document Imaging from Office 2003, which doesn't interfere with the MS Office 2010 we have installed. Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:49 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Ah, very good point. We have had to maintain obsolete boxes to keep running our old Canon scanner, and the university really doesn't like that; if more recent Canons still require older OS versions then we may indeed need to purchase multiple brands to cover all our bases. Thanks for the reminder. Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:43 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all. The major problem is finding ones that work with a modern OS. I am maintaining an XP pro box to maintain my Canon 9080. I am not willing to spend the additional bucks for a Win7 scanner because I cannot justify it in my current life. I would not chose this as my primary production scanner, but it makes a great side scanner. Good flatbed, and also very useful with texts that need special handing. For those heavy clay based pages in the art appreciation books this is great since I can choose a top feed vs. a bottom feed. Just some thoughts but also a good conversation. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi Teresa, I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard from others.) We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us know what you discover. Good luck, Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 From: Kenneth Elkind Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.co m> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/1 4e40698/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:00:30 +0000 From: Teresa Haven Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It has been a real workhorse! However, we use a DR-4010C to scan most things. The DR-4010C is smaller, however it handles most textbooks just fine. We pretty much only use the DR-9080C when we need to be scanning two texts at the same time or when we need to scan something that is in a larger format. We generally scan textbooks using the scan utility software that comes with the scanners as it is the fastest. However we can also scan using both of those scanners directly into ABBYY and Kurzweil 3000. -Brian On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Todd Schwanke < tschwanke@studentlife.wisc.edu> wrote: > Is anyone using a recent networked color copier that they would recommend? > If so, could share brand/models? And, are you scanning to a file or > directly into a software application? > > Thanks, Todd > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: > athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of James Bailey > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 6:18 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners > > We're running our Canon DR-9080C on Windows 7 64 bit. > > -- > James Bailey M.S. > Adaptive Tech Coordinator > University of Oregon > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: > athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn > A - (hunziker) > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:03 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners > > Hi all, > > Were there issues that you ran into with the Canon DR-9080C and Windows 7? > > I downloaded new drivers for our Canon DR-9080C for Windows 7 (x64) and > quality of images scanned seems to have been maintained. The one > work-around we had to incorporate for Windows 7 and our work process was to > install Microsoft Office Document Imaging from Office 2003, which doesn't > interfere with the MS Office 2010 we have installed. > > Dawn > > > ~~ > Dawn Hunziker > Coordinator, Technology Access > > Disability Resource Center > 520-626-9409 > hunziker@email.arizona.edu > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: > athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:49 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners > > Ah, very good point. We have had to maintain obsolete boxes to keep > running our old Canon scanner, and the university really doesn't like that; > if more recent Canons still require older OS versions then we may indeed > need to purchase multiple brands to cover all our bases. Thanks for the > reminder. > Teresa > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: > athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:43 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners > > Hi all. > > The major problem is finding ones that work with a modern OS. I am > maintaining an XP pro box to maintain my Canon 9080. I am not willing to > spend the additional bucks for a Win7 scanner because I cannot justify it > in my current life. > > I would not chose this as my primary production scanner, but it makes a > great side scanner. Good flatbed, and also very useful with texts that > need special handing. For those heavy clay based pages in the art > appreciation books this is great since I can choose a top feed vs. a bottom > feed. > > Just some thoughts but also a good conversation. > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of > Pielaet, Jon > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:40 PM > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners > > Hi Teresa, > > I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at > The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been > replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the > 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. > I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. > The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so > the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard > from others.) > > We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us > know what you discover. > > Good luck, > > > Jon > > Jon Pielaet > > Clark College > Disability Support Services > Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist > 1933 Fort Vancouver Way > Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 > (360) 992-2314 > (360) 992-2879 Fax > (360) 991-0901 Video Phone > jpielaet@clark.edu > http://www.clark.edu/dss > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of > athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 > > Send athen-list mailing list submissions to > athen-list@u.washington.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) > 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 > From: Kenneth Elkind > Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. > To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" > Message-ID: > > < > 64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.co > m> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Larry, > > Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, > Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. > > Thinking of requesting them for next year. > > Kenneth Elkind > Assistive Technology Specialist > (617) 287- 5243 > Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu > Skype User Number: adaptiveumb > > > Adaptive Computer Lab > Maximizing Learning Potential > > Learn about the Adaptive Computer > Lab< > http://www.umb.edu/it/getting_services/computer_labs/adaptive_computer_l > ab/> > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/1 > 4e40698/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:00:30 +0000 > From: Teresa Haven > Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > > Message-ID: > > <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the > answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have > current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, > high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running > on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to > purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance > for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we > had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I > can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should > research are most welcome. > Thanks, > Teresa > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. > Supervisor, Alternative Format Services > Disability Resource Center > Arizona State University > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/b > 879a474/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > End of athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 > ***************************************** > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Thu Mar 7 08:50:26 2013 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: <7720e9ff100935.513867a7@wiscmail.wisc.edu> References: <7720fc18102c71.5138bbb3@wiscmail.wisc.edu><77709250102d92.5138bbf0@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <7720e9ff100935.513867a7@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Message-ID: The campuses that I work with report that they are generally not satisfied with copier/scanner combos, unless they do very little scanning. Those colleges who scan regularly prefer a dedicated scanner, and we have found the color Canon scanners to be incredible value. The scanning utility that comes with the scanner is fully accessible and provides great flexibility. We probably have over 60 of them in our system now and nothing buy praise for them. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Todd Schwanke Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:11 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Is anyone using a recent networked color copier that they would recommend? If so, could share brand/models and what additional modules or add-ons that they were ordered with that relate to scanning functionality? Are you scanning to a file or directly into a software application? Thanks for all the discussion on this topic, Todd >> We're running our Canon DR-9080C on Windows 7 64 bit. -- James Bailey M.S. Adaptive Tech Coordinator University of Oregon -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:03 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all, Were there issues that you ran into with the Canon DR-9080C and Windows 7? I downloaded new drivers for our Canon DR-9080C for Windows 7 (x64) and quality of images scanned seems to have been maintained. The one work-around we had to incorporate for Windows 7 and our work process was to install Microsoft Office Document Imaging from Office 2003, which doesn't interfere with the MS Office 2010 we have installed. Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:49 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Ah, very good point. We have had to maintain obsolete boxes to keep running our old Canon scanner, and the university really doesn't like that; if more recent Canons still require older OS versions then we may indeed need to purchase multiple brands to cover all our bases. Thanks for the reminder. Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:43 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all. The major problem is finding ones that work with a modern OS. I am maintaining an XP pro box to maintain my Canon 9080. I am not willing to spend the additional bucks for a Win7 scanner because I cannot justify it in my current life. I would not chose this as my primary production scanner, but it makes a great side scanner. Good flatbed, and also very useful with texts that need special handing. For those heavy clay based pages in the art appreciation books this is great since I can choose a top feed vs. a bottom feed. Just some thoughts but also a good conversation. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi Teresa, I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard from others.) We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us know what you discover. Good luck, Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 From: Kenneth Elkind Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.co m> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/1 4e40698/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:00:30 +0000 From: Teresa Haven Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/b 879a474/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list End of athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From tschwanke at studentlife.wisc.edu Thu Mar 7 11:30:13 2013 From: tschwanke at studentlife.wisc.edu (Todd Schwanke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:08 2018 Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0MJB00D5726EG820@smtpauth4.wiscmail.wisc.edu> Several different follow-ups... 1) Thank you Gaeir. Can you provide any more specifics on features where the dedicated scanners perform better than the office networked copiers (e.g. Canon and Sharp, not including low cost multifunctions)? 2) For those who are using the Fujitsu 6770 with the flatbed, is the flatbed strong enough to support pressing down on a bound book to flatten the pages when it is not possible to remove the binding without warping the platen? 3) For those using the Canon 9080/9050/7550 scanners, a) What are you using as a supplemental flatbed scanner? b) is anyone using the optional Flatbed Scanner Unit 101 or the larger Flatbed Scanner Unit 201 with these scanners? 4) Is anyone successfully using a Plustek OptiBook scanner to scan bound books? If so, which model(s)? And, if not, what model(s)? Thank you, Todd -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:50 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners The campuses that I work with report that they are generally not satisfied with copier/scanner combos, unless they do very little scanning. Those colleges who scan regularly prefer a dedicated scanner, and we have found the color Canon scanners to be incredible value. The scanning utility that comes with the scanner is fully accessible and provides great flexibility. We probably have over 60 of them in our system now and nothing buy praise for them. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Todd Schwanke Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:11 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Is anyone using a recent networked color copier that they would recommend? If so, could share brand/models and what additional modules or add-ons that they were ordered with that relate to scanning functionality? Are you scanning to a file or directly into a software application? Thanks for all the discussion on this topic, Todd >> We're running our Canon DR-9080C on Windows 7 64 bit. -- James Bailey M.S. Adaptive Tech Coordinator University of Oregon -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:03 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all, Were there issues that you ran into with the Canon DR-9080C and Windows 7? I downloaded new drivers for our Canon DR-9080C for Windows 7 (x64) and quality of images scanned seems to have been maintained. The one work-around we had to incorporate for Windows 7 and our work process was to install Microsoft Office Document Imaging from Office 2003, which doesn't interfere with the MS Office 2010 we have installed. Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:49 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Ah, very good point. We have had to maintain obsolete boxes to keep running our old Canon scanner, and the university really doesn't like that; if more recent Canons still require older OS versions then we may indeed need to purchase multiple brands to cover all our bases. Thanks for the reminder. Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:43 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all. The major problem is finding ones that work with a modern OS. I am maintaining an XP pro box to maintain my Canon 9080. I am not willing to spend the additional bucks for a Win7 scanner because I cannot justify it in my current life. I would not chose this as my primary production scanner, but it makes a great side scanner. Good flatbed, and also very useful with texts that need special handing. For those heavy clay based pages in the art appreciation books this is great since I can choose a top feed vs. a bottom feed. Just some thoughts but also a good conversation. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi Teresa, I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard from others.) We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us know what you discover. Good luck, Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 From: Kenneth Elkind Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.co m> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/1 4e40698/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:00:30 +0000 From: Teresa Haven Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/b 879a474/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list End of athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Thu Mar 7 11:34:44 2013 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: <0MJB00D5726EG820@smtpauth4.wiscmail.wisc.edu> References: <0MJB00D5726EG820@smtpauth4.wiscmail.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F61C1F488B@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> Hi Todd, 3) For those using the Canon 9080/9050/7550 scanners, a) What are you using as a supplemental flatbed scanner? b) is anyone using the optional Flatbed Scanner Unit 101 or the larger Flatbed Scanner Unit 201 with these scanners? We have moved away from using a flatbed scanner as much as possible. When there is a need for a flatbed scanner, it typically means that we have either a library book or a borrowed copy of the book. In these cases, we use the scan to email function on our networked copy machine which creates an image PDF for us to work with. It's not the ideal method but it gets us through. The other option we use is to copy the text for conversion and run those pages through our Canon... Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Todd Schwanke Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:30 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners Several different follow-ups... 1) Thank you Gaeir. Can you provide any more specifics on features where the dedicated scanners perform better than the office networked copiers (e.g. Canon and Sharp, not including low cost multifunctions)? 2) For those who are using the Fujitsu 6770 with the flatbed, is the flatbed strong enough to support pressing down on a bound book to flatten the pages when it is not possible to remove the binding without warping the platen? 3) For those using the Canon 9080/9050/7550 scanners, a) What are you using as a supplemental flatbed scanner? b) is anyone using the optional Flatbed Scanner Unit 101 or the larger Flatbed Scanner Unit 201 with these scanners? 4) Is anyone successfully using a Plustek OptiBook scanner to scan bound books? If so, which model(s)? And, if not, what model(s)? Thank you, Todd -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:50 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners The campuses that I work with report that they are generally not satisfied with copier/scanner combos, unless they do very little scanning. Those colleges who scan regularly prefer a dedicated scanner, and we have found the color Canon scanners to be incredible value. The scanning utility that comes with the scanner is fully accessible and provides great flexibility. We probably have over 60 of them in our system now and nothing buy praise for them. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Todd Schwanke Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:11 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Is anyone using a recent networked color copier that they would recommend? If so, could share brand/models and what additional modules or add-ons that they were ordered with that relate to scanning functionality? Are you scanning to a file or directly into a software application? Thanks for all the discussion on this topic, Todd >> We're running our Canon DR-9080C on Windows 7 64 bit. -- James Bailey M.S. Adaptive Tech Coordinator University of Oregon -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:03 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all, Were there issues that you ran into with the Canon DR-9080C and Windows 7? I downloaded new drivers for our Canon DR-9080C for Windows 7 (x64) and quality of images scanned seems to have been maintained. The one work-around we had to incorporate for Windows 7 and our work process was to install Microsoft Office Document Imaging from Office 2003, which doesn't interfere with the MS Office 2010 we have installed. Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:49 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Ah, very good point. We have had to maintain obsolete boxes to keep running our old Canon scanner, and the university really doesn't like that; if more recent Canons still require older OS versions then we may indeed need to purchase multiple brands to cover all our bases. Thanks for the reminder. Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:43 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all. The major problem is finding ones that work with a modern OS. I am maintaining an XP pro box to maintain my Canon 9080. I am not willing to spend the additional bucks for a Win7 scanner because I cannot justify it in my current life. I would not chose this as my primary production scanner, but it makes a great side scanner. Good flatbed, and also very useful with texts that need special handing. For those heavy clay based pages in the art appreciation books this is great since I can choose a top feed vs. a bottom feed. Just some thoughts but also a good conversation. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi Teresa, I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard from others.) We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us know what you discover. Good luck, Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 From: Kenneth Elkind Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.co m> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/1 4e40698/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:00:30 +0000 From: Teresa Haven Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Typically, these are some of the issues: Less control over DPI--usually copiers have a very narrow range of options (or only one) for the dots per inch. Although we generally use 300 DPI for scanning books, there are times you need 600 DPI (with Infty Reader for math, especially) and also times you need 200 or less (reference books and very thin papers). Less control over brightness and contrast--usually the controls on copiers are quite dumbed-down; maybe 3-5 up and 3-5 down. A real scanner gives you control over very small increments, which is crucial with some hard to scan papers. Less control over margins--high-end scanners do a very good job of detecting the paper size and removing the "black margins." No color drop-out/enhancement--color drop-out is a "must have" feature for dealing with modern books and I have not seen a copier yet that has it, as is color scanning itself. Color copiers are much more expensive than what most campuses are using with the "multi-use machine." Fewer scan-quality enhancements--typically copiers do not have as many options to deskew, despeckle, and filter as the dedicated scanners do. Scan quality less good--this measure is very subjective, but in my experience, copiers just do not create as high quality a scan (at whatever DPI/settings) as the dedicated scanners do. Less control over document feeding--copiers do not generally handle mixing paper sizes well, whereas dedicated scanners often include this feature; in addition, many of the copiers do not hold as many pages as the scanners. Accessibility--many copiers present problematic accessibility for both folks who are blind and who have mobility impairments. The controls are often touch pads (may be inaccessible without vision) and are generally on the top of the machine (may be hard for folks in wheelchairs). The Canons and Fujitsus (I have not tested others) are both fully accessible and easy to use. Breakage--copiers break down frequently after there first year or two in service, whereas I know of Canon 5080C scanners that have been in continuous use for the last eight years with no issues at all--and the 9080C seems to be even better. Cleaning--Clean rollers and clean glass are crucial for good scanning. It is far easier to keep your Canon clean than it is a copier (fewer moving parts). Also, you can do the cleaning yourself--you do not violate the warranty as you might with a copier. Just remember that copiers are basically copiers. They do not have to add features to add the scanning. Scanning is part of the copying process, already. (After all, that's how the copier transfers the picture of the page to another piece of paper.) Why have a stand-alone scanner at all? Because they do add additional features, functionality, and quality over what you get with a copier. It's that simple. Also on your question 2 below...part of the reason you need to push down the spine is to block the light so you get a good scan. You can get the same result by draping a black (over very dark) heavy piece of cloth over the scanner (dark blue or black towels work great). This blocks the light, and you get a good clear scan. The OCR programs can usually handle the curvature when the scan is clear. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Todd Schwanke Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:30 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners Several different follow-ups... 1) Thank you Gaeir. Can you provide any more specifics on features where the dedicated scanners perform better than the office networked copiers (e.g. Canon and Sharp, not including low cost multifunctions)? 2) For those who are using the Fujitsu 6770 with the flatbed, is the flatbed strong enough to support pressing down on a bound book to flatten the pages when it is not possible to remove the binding without warping the platen? 3) For those using the Canon 9080/9050/7550 scanners, a) What are you using as a supplemental flatbed scanner? b) is anyone using the optional Flatbed Scanner Unit 101 or the larger Flatbed Scanner Unit 201 with these scanners? 4) Is anyone successfully using a Plustek OptiBook scanner to scan bound books? If so, which model(s)? And, if not, what model(s)? Thank you, Todd -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:50 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners The campuses that I work with report that they are generally not satisfied with copier/scanner combos, unless they do very little scanning. Those colleges who scan regularly prefer a dedicated scanner, and we have found the color Canon scanners to be incredible value. The scanning utility that comes with the scanner is fully accessible and provides great flexibility. We probably have over 60 of them in our system now and nothing buy praise for them. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Todd Schwanke Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:11 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Is anyone using a recent networked color copier that they would recommend? If so, could share brand/models and what additional modules or add-ons that they were ordered with that relate to scanning functionality? Are you scanning to a file or directly into a software application? Thanks for all the discussion on this topic, Todd >> We're running our Canon DR-9080C on Windows 7 64 bit. -- James Bailey M.S. Adaptive Tech Coordinator University of Oregon -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:03 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all, Were there issues that you ran into with the Canon DR-9080C and Windows 7? I downloaded new drivers for our Canon DR-9080C for Windows 7 (x64) and quality of images scanned seems to have been maintained. The one work-around we had to incorporate for Windows 7 and our work process was to install Microsoft Office Document Imaging from Office 2003, which doesn't interfere with the MS Office 2010 we have installed. Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:49 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Ah, very good point. We have had to maintain obsolete boxes to keep running our old Canon scanner, and the university really doesn't like that; if more recent Canons still require older OS versions then we may indeed need to purchase multiple brands to cover all our bases. Thanks for the reminder. Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:43 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all. The major problem is finding ones that work with a modern OS. I am maintaining an XP pro box to maintain my Canon 9080. I am not willing to spend the additional bucks for a Win7 scanner because I cannot justify it in my current life. I would not chose this as my primary production scanner, but it makes a great side scanner. Good flatbed, and also very useful with texts that need special handing. For those heavy clay based pages in the art appreciation books this is great since I can choose a top feed vs. a bottom feed. Just some thoughts but also a good conversation. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi Teresa, I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard from others.) We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us know what you discover. Good luck, Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 From: Kenneth Elkind Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.co m> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Other than Youtube we have been playing with the free services through Amara. Thanks for your suggestions Megan Shadrick M.A., M.S., COMS Associate Director Disability Resource Center-Access Technology Center Missouri State University meganshadrick@missouristate.edu http://www.missouristate.edu/atc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paire at temple.edu Thu Mar 7 13:20:29 2013 From: paire at temple.edu (Paul E. Paire) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: captioning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C72283ADAF@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> Saw a whole presentation on Movie Captioner at the Penn State conference last year (I think a number of their staff use it)... from http://www.synchrimedia.com/ (I believe the developer is also a professor at Penn State, not sure.) -Paul From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Shadrick, Megan E Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:10 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] captioning Does anyone have a simple to use captioning software that they are using to create in-house closed captions? Other than Youtube we have been playing with the free services through Amara. 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Thanks for your suggestions Megan Shadrick M.A., M.S., COMS Associate Director Disability Resource Center-Access Technology Center Missouri State University meganshadrick@missouristate.edu http://www.missouristate.edu/atc _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tschwanke at studentlife.wisc.edu Thu Mar 7 13:47:06 2013 From: tschwanke at studentlife.wisc.edu (Todd Schwanke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners In-Reply-To: <60003809FE6E4708A5D61237C144892D@htctu.fhda.edu> Message-ID: <0MJB00D3W8IJ4S10@smtpauth2.wiscmail.wisc.edu> Thank you Gaeir. Very thorough and detailed! Todd -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:13 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners > Can you provide any more specifics on features where the dedicated scanners perform better than the office networked copiers (e.g. Canon and Sharp, not including low cost multifunctions)? Typically, these are some of the issues: Less control over DPI--usually copiers have a very narrow range of options (or only one) for the dots per inch. Although we generally use 300 DPI for scanning books, there are times you need 600 DPI (with Infty Reader for math, especially) and also times you need 200 or less (reference books and very thin papers). Less control over brightness and contrast--usually the controls on copiers are quite dumbed-down; maybe 3-5 up and 3-5 down. A real scanner gives you control over very small increments, which is crucial with some hard to scan papers. Less control over margins--high-end scanners do a very good job of detecting the paper size and removing the "black margins." No color drop-out/enhancement--color drop-out is a "must have" feature for dealing with modern books and I have not seen a copier yet that has it, as is color scanning itself. Color copiers are much more expensive than what most campuses are using with the "multi-use machine." Fewer scan-quality enhancements--typically copiers do not have as many options to deskew, despeckle, and filter as the dedicated scanners do. Scan quality less good--this measure is very subjective, but in my experience, copiers just do not create as high quality a scan (at whatever DPI/settings) as the dedicated scanners do. Less control over document feeding--copiers do not generally handle mixing paper sizes well, whereas dedicated scanners often include this feature; in addition, many of the copiers do not hold as many pages as the scanners. Accessibility--many copiers present problematic accessibility for both folks who are blind and who have mobility impairments. The controls are often touch pads (may be inaccessible without vision) and are generally on the top of the machine (may be hard for folks in wheelchairs). The Canons and Fujitsus (I have not tested others) are both fully accessible and easy to use. Breakage--copiers break down frequently after there first year or two in service, whereas I know of Canon 5080C scanners that have been in continuous use for the last eight years with no issues at all--and the 9080C seems to be even better. Cleaning--Clean rollers and clean glass are crucial for good scanning. It is far easier to keep your Canon clean than it is a copier (fewer moving parts). Also, you can do the cleaning yourself--you do not violate the warranty as you might with a copier. Just remember that copiers are basically copiers. They do not have to add features to add the scanning. Scanning is part of the copying process, already. (After all, that's how the copier transfers the picture of the page to another piece of paper.) Why have a stand-alone scanner at all? Because they do add additional features, functionality, and quality over what you get with a copier. It's that simple. Also on your question 2 below...part of the reason you need to push down the spine is to block the light so you get a good scan. You can get the same result by draping a black (over very dark) heavy piece of cloth over the scanner (dark blue or black towels work great). This blocks the light, and you get a good clear scan. The OCR programs can usually handle the curvature when the scan is clear. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Todd Schwanke Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:30 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners Several different follow-ups... 1) Thank you Gaeir. Can you provide any more specifics on features where the dedicated scanners perform better than the office networked copiers (e.g. Canon and Sharp, not including low cost multifunctions)? 2) For those who are using the Fujitsu 6770 with the flatbed, is the flatbed strong enough to support pressing down on a bound book to flatten the pages when it is not possible to remove the binding without warping the platen? 3) For those using the Canon 9080/9050/7550 scanners, a) What are you using as a supplemental flatbed scanner? b) is anyone using the optional Flatbed Scanner Unit 101 or the larger Flatbed Scanner Unit 201 with these scanners? 4) Is anyone successfully using a Plustek OptiBook scanner to scan bound books? If so, which model(s)? And, if not, what model(s)? Thank you, Todd -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:50 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners The campuses that I work with report that they are generally not satisfied with copier/scanner combos, unless they do very little scanning. Those colleges who scan regularly prefer a dedicated scanner, and we have found the color Canon scanners to be incredible value. The scanning utility that comes with the scanner is fully accessible and provides great flexibility. We probably have over 60 of them in our system now and nothing buy praise for them. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6043 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Todd Schwanke Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:11 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Is anyone using a recent networked color copier that they would recommend? If so, could share brand/models and what additional modules or add-ons that they were ordered with that relate to scanning functionality? Are you scanning to a file or directly into a software application? Thanks for all the discussion on this topic, Todd >> We're running our Canon DR-9080C on Windows 7 64 bit. -- James Bailey M.S. Adaptive Tech Coordinator University of Oregon -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:03 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all, Were there issues that you ran into with the Canon DR-9080C and Windows 7? I downloaded new drivers for our Canon DR-9080C for Windows 7 (x64) and quality of images scanned seems to have been maintained. The one work-around we had to incorporate for Windows 7 and our work process was to install Microsoft Office Document Imaging from Office 2003, which doesn't interfere with the MS Office 2010 we have installed. Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:49 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Ah, very good point. We have had to maintain obsolete boxes to keep running our old Canon scanner, and the university really doesn't like that; if more recent Canons still require older OS versions then we may indeed need to purchase multiple brands to cover all our bases. Thanks for the reminder. Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:43 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi all. The major problem is finding ones that work with a modern OS. I am maintaining an XP pro box to maintain my Canon 9080. I am not willing to spend the additional bucks for a Win7 scanner because I cannot justify it in my current life. I would not chose this as my primary production scanner, but it makes a great side scanner. Good flatbed, and also very useful with texts that need special handing. For those heavy clay based pages in the art appreciation books this is great since I can choose a top feed vs. a bottom feed. Just some thoughts but also a good conversation. Ron -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pielaet, Jon Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:40 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] RE: Current high-speed scanners Hi Teresa, I've been looking into production scanners as well. I used the 9080c's at The University of Montana for years and they grew on me. The 9080c has been replaced by the 9050c which is also a workhorse production scanner. If the 9050c is too expensive the 7550c also from Canon is a great scanner as well. I prefer the Canons because they require so little maintenance. The Fujitsu scanners are known to be good, but they use up consumables so the overall maintenance costs are higher. (This is only what I have heard from others.) We just ordered a 7550c here at Clark for alt. format production. Let us know what you discover. Good luck, Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Plustek OpticBook scanners. (Kenneth Elkind) 2. Current high-speed scanners (Teresa Haven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:12:42 +0000 From: Kenneth Elkind Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.co m> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130306/1 4e40698/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:00:30 +0000 From: Teresa Haven Subject: [Athen] Current high-speed scanners To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0A7C77B9@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, all. I know this question comes up periodically, but the answers change because the technology keeps changing. Does anyone have current information/opinions on good options for high-quality, durable, high-speed duplex scanners for alt format production? We are still running on our Canon DR9080C that we've had for years, but we would like to purchase a new machine to add to our production line and serve as insurance for the day when our old Canon finally bites the dust. (The last time we had to put in a maintenance call it was down for almost a month, and I can't let that happen again.) Any suggestions on brands/models I should research are most welcome. Thanks, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As others have mentioned, Movie Captioner is a great tool and not too expensive. You can get a fully-functioning 14-day demo version to try before you buy. Check out: http://www.synchrimedia.com/ Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer.atsol at gmail.com Sat Mar 9 11:48:03 2013 From: hkramer.atsol at gmail.com (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Looking for an Adaptive computer user for a student interview Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, As part of my Universal Design for Digital media online course I assign each student to interview and observe an adaptive computer user access the web. The interview should take about 45 minutes to an hour. I have a student taking the class from the Santa Clara, CA area. If you or anyone you know in this location who'd be willing to volunteer for this interview please let me know. Regards, Howard -- Howard Kramer CO-PI - UDUC *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula (UDUC)* Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu Mon Mar 11 05:26:42 2013 From: larry.kiser at sfcollege.edu (Larry Kiser) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. In-Reply-To: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C787BE2@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: Kenneth: We use K3000 exclusively. No interface problems that I am aware of. Larry Kiser Counseling Specialist Disabilities Resource Center, S-233 Santa Fe College Gainesville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-395-4429 Fax: 352-395-4100 From: Kenneth Elkind [mailto:Kenneth.Elkind@umb.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:13 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: [Athen] Plustek OpticBook scanners. Larry, Have you had any problems with the Twain interface with Kurzweil 1000, Kurzweil 3000 and Read & write gold. Thinking of requesting them for next year. Kenneth Elkind Assistive Technology Specialist (617) 287- 5243 Kenneth.elkind@umb.edu Skype User Number: adaptiveumb Adaptive Computer Lab Maximizing Learning Potential Learn about the Adaptive Computer Lab ________________________________ Please note that Florida has a broad public records law, and that all correspondence to or from College employees via email may be subject to disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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NFB?s legislative proposal would have Congress direct the U.S. Access Board, which develops accessibility guidelines under the Americans with Disabilities Act and the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, to establish such guidelines for digital instructional materials at the postsecondary level, including related delivery technologies. The proposal would further direct the U.S. Department of Justice to adopt those guidelines as enforceable standards under the ADA and Rehabilitation Act. This would make colleges and universities subject to legal and regulatory sanction if the digital instructional materials and delivery technologies they deploy do not meet the standards. (Whether and how allowances for the ?installed base? of digital materials and technologies would be made, as opposed to the application of standards to new or replacement deployments, has not yet been presented. However, such allowances have generally been a part of previous legal and regulatory developments in the accessibility space. On another concern, institutions would not see the application of enforceable standards immediately under the proposal; the development of the guidelines and their adoption as enforceable standards would most likely take place over a few years.) In visits to Congress, NFB has identified its ?Technology, Education and Accessibility in College and Higher Education (TEACH) Act? (not to be confused with the already enacted ?Technology, Education and Copyright Harmonization (TEACH) Act of 2002?) as a central piece of its legislative agenda for the current Congress. EDUCAUSE is engaged in discussions with NFB and other sectors of the higher education community to better understand the proposal and its potential effects on colleges and universities nationwide. We will highlight what we learn for our members and other interested parties as our perspective develops. In the interim, if you have questions or thoughts on this topic, please share them with me by commenting on this post or contacting me atjcummings@educause.edu. *(Note):* The Postsecondary AIM Commission was chartered by Congress in the 2008 reauthorization of the Higher Education Act to evaluate the state of accessibility in the market for postsecondary instructional materials, including the technologies for delivering them, and to make recommendations to Congress for improveme -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here is the link to our site where it resides, http://linnbenton.verbacompare.com/ Thank you, Carol -- Carol Raymundo, MSIDT Instructional Specialist--Assistive Technology Coordinator Linn-Benton Community College Disability Services raymundo@linnbenton.edu 541-917-4832 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer.atsol at gmail.com Wed Mar 13 21:39:41 2013 From: hkramer.atsol at gmail.com (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Proposal form for AHG 2013 is up in test mode Message-ID: Hello All: The form is up at: http://accessinghigherground.org/wp/proposalform.php if anyone would like to try it out. You can submit real proposals. I don't want to advertise it to a larger audience until it's tested a bit. The form seems very accessible in my tests with JAWs with Firefox but JAWS with IE does not read the form controls correctly. Testing with achecker returns errors with missing labels even where I have labels. Question: with a legend tag are you still required to have a label tag. Any feedback is welcome. Thanks, Howard -- Howard Kramer CO-PI - UDUC *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula (UDUC)* Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johumber at iupui.edu Thu Mar 14 05:49:15 2013 From: johumber at iupui.edu (Humbert, Joseph A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Proposal form for AHG 2013 is up in test mode In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B75302927B0@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> Answer: Yes you still need a label element with a fieldset/legend combination. Otherwise every form control would have the same label. The form accessibility issues that I found are: * You don't have instructions on how to identify required form controls for sighted users (without hovering over the form control). * Required form controls are denoted in the title attribute. But since the form control has a label many assistive technology will not read the title unless specifically set to read it as well. * Since you have the same form controls for both speakers, you have two form controls with the same label but different purposes. You should make 1st speaker and 2nd speaker legends. * The "1st speaker and 2nd" speaker radio buttons target the same label so they effectively have the same label. * The "length of session" radio buttons leave out whether it is general or pre conference. (e.g., length of session 1-hr) * The "type of presentation" radio buttons target the same label. * All of your "if you have not presented..." input form controls in the table point to non-existent labels. Therefore, they are all labeled by the legend and have the same label. * Some of your "for" attributes do not match the "id" on the corresponding form control. * On most of your form controls you use both a label element and the aria-labelledby attribute. This may cause some assistive technology to read the label twice. I would suggest you use one or the other, preferably the label because its backwards compatible. Other issues: * Your skip links are not accessible to sighted keyboard-only users and will not work with webkit browsers. (http://whatisdamon.com/blog/2012/01/why-your-skip-to-content-link-might-not-work/) * Some of your "id" attributes are not valid because they start with numbers (e.g., 1hour-ariaLabel). (http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#type-name) Joe Humbert, Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Specialist UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E Indianapolis, IN 46202 Office Phone: (317) 274-4378 Cell Phone: (317) 644-6824 johumber@iupui.edu http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:40 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Proposal form for AHG 2013 is up in test mode Hello All: The form is up at: http://accessinghigherground.org/wp/proposalform.php if anyone would like to try it out. You can submit real proposals. I don't want to advertise it to a larger audience until it's tested a bit. The form seems very accessible in my tests with JAWs with Firefox but JAWS with IE does not read the form controls correctly. Testing with achecker returns errors with missing labels even where I have labels. Question: with a legend tag are you still required to have a label tag. Any feedback is welcome. Thanks, Howard -- Howard Kramer CO-PI - UDUC Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula (UDUC) Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Thu Mar 14 09:29:53 2013 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: PolyCom Video Conferencing service? In-Reply-To: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F61C205C76@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> References: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F61C205C76@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F61C205CDC@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> Hi all, Ignore this message - wrong listserv! :-/ Thanks anyways! Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu From: Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:29 AM To: Network, Access Technology Higher Education (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: PolyCom Video Conferencing service? Hi all, Anyone know if we have a PolyCom Video Conferencing System (IP-based session) on campus? Or would there be something that would work with this system? I have a staff member that has a video conference set up with Penn State on Monday... Thanks, Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Thu Mar 14 09:29:18 2013 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] PolyCom Video Conferencing service? Message-ID: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F61C205C76@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> Hi all, Anyone know if we have a PolyCom Video Conferencing System (IP-based session) on campus? Or would there be something that would work with this system? I have a staff member that has a video conference set up with Penn State on Monday... Thanks, Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer at ahead.org Thu Mar 14 10:49:17 2013 From: hkramer at ahead.org (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Proposal form for AHG 2013 is up in test mode In-Reply-To: <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B75302927B0@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> References: <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B75302927B0@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> Message-ID: Joe, Thank you for that detailed feedback. I'll address those issues. -Howard On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Humbert, Joseph A wrote: > Answer: Yes you still need a label element with a fieldset/legend > combination. Otherwise every form control would have the same label.**** > > ** ** > > The form accessibility issues that I found are:**** > > ** ** > > **? **You don?t have instructions on how to identify required > form controls for sighted users (without hovering over the form control).* > *** > > **? **Required form controls are denoted in the title attribute. > But since the form control has a label many assistive technology will not > read the title unless specifically set to read it as well.**** > > **? **Since you have the same form controls for both speakers, > you have two form controls with the same label but different purposes. You > should make 1st speaker and 2nd speaker legends.**** > > **? **The ?1st speaker and 2nd? speaker radio buttons target the > same label so they effectively have the same label.**** > > **? **The ?length of session? radio buttons leave out whether it > is general or pre conference. (e.g., length of session 1-hr)**** > > **? **The ?type of presentation? radio buttons target the same > label.**** > > **? **All of your ?if you have not presented?? input form > controls in the table point to non-existent labels. Therefore, they are all > labeled by the legend and have the same label.**** > > **? **Some of your ?for? attributes do not match the ?id? on the > corresponding form control.**** > > **? **On most of your form controls you use both a label element > and the aria-labelledby attribute. This may cause some assistive > technology to read the label twice. I would suggest you use one or the > other, preferably the label because its backwards compatible.**** > > ** ** > > Other issues:**** > > **** > > **? **Your skip links are not accessible to sighted keyboard-only > users and will not work with webkit browsers. ( > http://whatisdamon.com/blog/2012/01/why-your-skip-to-content-link-might-not-work/ > )**** > > **? **Some of your ?id? attributes are not valid because they > start with numbers (e.g., 1hour-ariaLabel). ( > http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#type-name)**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Joe Humbert, Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Specialist**** > > UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers**** > > Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington**** > > 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E**** > > Indianapolis, IN 46202**** > > Office Phone: (317) 274-4378**** > > Cell Phone: (317) 644-6824**** > > johumber@iupui.edu**** > > http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/ **** > > ** ** > > *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: > athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Howard Kramer > *Sent:* Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:40 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* [Athen] Proposal form for AHG 2013 is up in test mode**** > > ** ** > > Hello All:**** > > ** ** > > The form is up at: http://accessinghigherground.org/wp/proposalform.phpif anyone would like to try it out. You can submit real proposals. I don't > want to advertise it to a larger audience until it's tested a bit.**** > > ** ** > > The form seems very accessible in my tests with JAWs with Firefox but JAWS > with IE does not read the form controls correctly. Testing with achecker > returns errors with missing labels even where I have labels.**** > > ** ** > > Question: with a legend tag are you still required to have a label tag.*** > * > > ** ** > > Any feedback is welcome.**** > > ** ** > > Thanks,**** > > Howard > **** > > ** ** > > -- **** > > Howard Kramer**** > > CO-PI - UDUC**** > > *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula > (UDUC)***** > > Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin**** > > 303-492-8672**** > > cell: 720-351-8668**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu Thu Mar 14 12:15:04 2013 From: Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu (Kluesner, Bryon K) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen reader question Message-ID: <56C15F5F7FD04146924173920805DF6104B4F587@UTCMBX3.utc.tennessee.edu> I would like to reach out to the wise ones in the listserv to see if anyone has had any experience with a screen reader called IVONA - I have had an inquiry about it and we do not currently use it in my department. Any pros and cons would be much appreciated. Thanks, Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 Go MOCS! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Thu Mar 14 12:43:04 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Screen reader question In-Reply-To: <56C15F5F7FD04146924173920805DF6104B4F587@UTCMBX3.utc.tennessee.edu> References: <56C15F5F7FD04146924173920805DF6104B4F587@UTCMBX3.utc.tennessee.edu> Message-ID: <00cd01ce20ec$252fbfa0$6f8f3ee0$@ahead.org> Ivona is not a screen reader it is a TTS engine that a screen reader may use. They were also just bought out so their future is uncertain. Nice quality very responsive voices. Ron Stewart From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon K Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:15 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Screen reader question I would like to reach out to the wise ones in the listserv to see if anyone has had any experience with a screen reader called IVONA - I have had an inquiry about it and we do not currently use it in my department. Any pros and cons would be much appreciated. Thanks, Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 Go MOCS! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer at ahead.org Thu Mar 14 15:08:44 2013 From: hkramer at ahead.org (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Proposal form for AHG 2013 is up in test mode In-Reply-To: <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B75302927B0@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> References: <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B75302927B0@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> Message-ID: Hi Joe, I addressed the issues you mentioned as indicated below, in case you or someone else wants to check the corrections. Thanks, Howard On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Humbert, Joseph A wrote: > Answer: Yes you still need a label element with a fieldset/legend > combination. Otherwise every form control would have the same label.**** > > ** ** > > The form accessibility issues that I found are:**** > > ** ** > > **? **You don?t have instructions on how to identify required > form controls for sighted users (without hovering over the form control). > Now have * and yellow field to indicate required. > **** > > **? **Required form controls are denoted in the title attribute. > But since the form control has a label many assistive technology will not > read the title unless specifically set to read it as well. > addressed via above > **** > > **? **Since you have the same form controls for both speakers, > you have two form controls with the same label but different purposes. You > should make 1st speaker and 2nd speaker legends. > I added the legend. Looks nice too! > **** > > **? **The ?1st speaker and 2nd? speaker radio buttons target the > same label so they effectively have the same label. > I didn't find this. The labels appear to be different and matching to the input id. In any case I test it with a screenreader and seems to work. > **** > > **? **The ?length of session? radio buttons leave out whether it > is general or pre conference. (e.g., length of session 1-hr) > I added some "invisible" text to the labels for each radio button indicating general or main conference. I used the font size = 0px if anyone's interested. > **** > > **? **The ?type of presentation? radio buttons target the same > label. > Maybe I fixed it earlier and forgot but seems to be coded correctly when I just looked. > **** > > **? **All of your ?if you have not presented?? input form > controls in the table point to non-existent labels. Therefore, they are all > labeled by the legend and have the same label. > Added an "invisible" label for each field as per the length of session radio button labels above. > **** > > **? **Some of your ?for? attributes do not match the ?id? on the > corresponding form control. > I went through and think I've corrected all of these. > **** > > **? **On most of your form controls you use both a label element > and the aria-labelledby attribute. This may cause some assistive > technology to read the label twice. I would suggest you use one or the > other, preferably the label because its backwards compatible. > Removed the aria. > **** > > ** ** > > Other issues:**** > > **** > > **? **Your skip links are not accessible to sighted keyboard-only > users and will not work with webkit browsers. ( > http://whatisdamon.com/blog/2012/01/why-your-skip-to-content-link-might-not-work/ > ) > Have not fixed this one yet. > **** > > **? **Some of your ?id? attributes are not valid because they > start with numbers (e.g., 1hour-ariaLabel). ( > http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#type-name)**** > > ** Corrected this.** > > ** ** > > Joe Humbert, Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Specialist**** > > UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers**** > > Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington**** > > 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E**** > > Indianapolis, IN 46202**** > > Office Phone: (317) 274-4378**** > > Cell Phone: (317) 644-6824**** > > johumber@iupui.edu**** > > http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/ **** > > ** ** > > *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: > athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Howard Kramer > *Sent:* Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:40 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* [Athen] Proposal form for AHG 2013 is up in test mode**** > > ** ** > > Hello All:**** > > ** ** > > The form is up at: http://accessinghigherground.org/wp/proposalform.phpif anyone would like to try it out. You can submit real proposals. I don't > want to advertise it to a larger audience until it's tested a bit.**** > > ** ** > > The form seems very accessible in my tests with JAWs with Firefox but JAWS > with IE does not read the form controls correctly. Testing with achecker > returns errors with missing labels even where I have labels.**** > > ** ** > > Question: with a legend tag are you still required to have a label tag.*** > * > > ** ** > > Any feedback is welcome.**** > > ** ** > > Thanks,**** > > Howard > **** > > ** ** > > -- **** > > Howard Kramer**** > > CO-PI - UDUC**** > > *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula > (UDUC)***** > > Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin**** > > 303-492-8672**** > > cell: 720-351-8668**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer at ahead.org Thu Mar 14 15:26:33 2013 From: hkramer at ahead.org (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] Proposal form for AHG 2013 is up in test mode In-Reply-To: References: <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B75302927B0@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> Message-ID: Hmm - looks like I need to check those label names again. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Howard Kramer wrote: > Hi Joe, > > I addressed the issues you mentioned as indicated below, in case you or > someone else wants to check the corrections. > > Thanks, > Howard > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Humbert, Joseph A wrote: > >> Answer: Yes you still need a label element with a fieldset/legend >> combination. Otherwise every form control would have the same label.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> The form accessibility issues that I found are:**** >> >> ** ** >> >> **? **You don?t have instructions on how to identify required >> form controls for sighted users (without hovering over the form control). >> > Now have * and yellow field to indicate required. > >> **** >> >> **? **Required form controls are denoted in the title >> attribute. But since the form control has a label many assistive >> technology will not read the title unless specifically set to read it as >> well. >> > addressed via above > >> **** >> >> **? **Since you have the same form controls for both speakers, >> you have two form controls with the same label but different purposes. You >> should make 1st speaker and 2nd speaker legends. >> > I added the legend. Looks nice too! > >> **** >> >> **? **The ?1st speaker and 2nd? speaker radio buttons target the >> same label so they effectively have the same label. >> > I didn't find this. The labels appear to be different and matching to the > input id. In any case I test it with a screenreader and seems to work. > >> **** >> >> **? **The ?length of session? radio buttons leave out whether it >> is general or pre conference. (e.g., length of session 1-hr) >> > I added some "invisible" text to the labels for each radio button > indicating general or main conference. I used the font size = 0px if > anyone's interested. > >> **** >> >> **? **The ?type of presentation? radio buttons target the same >> label. >> > Maybe I fixed it earlier and forgot but seems to be coded correctly when I > just looked. > >> **** >> >> **? **All of your ?if you have not presented?? input form >> controls in the table point to non-existent labels. Therefore, they are all >> labeled by the legend and have the same label. >> > Added an "invisible" label for each field as per the length of session > radio button labels above. > >> **** >> >> **? **Some of your ?for? attributes do not match the ?id? on the >> corresponding form control. >> > I went through and think I've corrected all of these. > >> **** >> >> **? **On most of your form controls you use both a label element >> and the aria-labelledby attribute. This may cause some assistive >> technology to read the label twice. I would suggest you use one or the >> other, preferably the label because its backwards compatible. >> > Removed the aria. > > >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Other issues:**** >> >> **** >> >> **? **Your skip links are not accessible to sighted >> keyboard-only users and will not work with webkit browsers. ( >> http://whatisdamon.com/blog/2012/01/why-your-skip-to-content-link-might-not-work/ >> ) >> > Have not fixed this one yet. > >> **** >> >> **? **Some of your ?id? attributes are not valid because they >> start with numbers (e.g., 1hour-ariaLabel). ( >> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#type-name)**** >> >> ** Corrected this.** >> >> ** ** >> >> Joe Humbert, Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Specialist**** >> >> UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers**** >> >> Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington**** >> >> 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E**** >> >> Indianapolis, IN 46202**** >> >> Office Phone: (317) 274-4378**** >> >> Cell Phone: (317) 644-6824**** >> >> johumber@iupui.edu**** >> >> http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/ **** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: >> athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Howard >> Kramer >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:40 AM >> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network >> *Subject:* [Athen] Proposal form for AHG 2013 is up in test mode**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Hello All:**** >> >> ** ** >> >> The form is up at: http://accessinghigherground.org/wp/proposalform.phpif anyone would like to try it out. You can submit real proposals. I don't >> want to advertise it to a larger audience until it's tested a bit.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> The form seems very accessible in my tests with JAWs with Firefox but >> JAWS with IE does not read the form controls correctly. Testing with >> achecker returns errors with missing labels even where I have labels.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Question: with a legend tag are you still required to have a label tag.** >> ** >> >> ** ** >> >> Any feedback is welcome.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Thanks,**** >> >> Howard >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> -- **** >> >> Howard Kramer**** >> >> CO-PI - UDUC**** >> >> *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula >> (UDUC)***** >> >> Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin**** >> >> 303-492-8672**** >> >> cell: 720-351-8668**** >> >> ** ** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> > > > -- > Howard Kramer > Conference Coordinator > Accessing Higher Ground > 303-492-8672 > cell: 720-351-8668 > > AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability > > -- Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(e.g., Required fields are marked with an asterisk (*) before the form label and are yellow) at the top of the page. It seems you have a warning in red at the top of the page, you might want to put the words "warning:" in the actual text and make it a heading. We have found this CSS works across multiple browsers to hide screen reading software accessible text: .auraltext { clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px); height: 1px; overflow: hidden; position: absolute; width: 1px; } I would remove the "row #" from the past presentation labels since they are already in a table and that information might be repeated. (e.g., date of conference 1) These controls still have the aria: Besides my first suggestion, the form is very accessible and the other suggestions are minor. I hope you get lots of presentations :) - Joe From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:27 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Proposal form for AHG 2013 is up in test mode Hmm - looks like I need to check those label names again. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Howard Kramer > wrote: Hi Joe, I addressed the issues you mentioned as indicated below, in case you or someone else wants to check the corrections. Thanks, Howard On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Humbert, Joseph A > wrote: Answer: Yes you still need a label element with a fieldset/legend combination. Otherwise every form control would have the same label. The form accessibility issues that I found are: * You don't have instructions on how to identify required form controls for sighted users (without hovering over the form control). Now have * and yellow field to indicate required. * Required form controls are denoted in the title attribute. But since the form control has a label many assistive technology will not read the title unless specifically set to read it as well. addressed via above * Since you have the same form controls for both speakers, you have two form controls with the same label but different purposes. You should make 1st speaker and 2nd speaker legends. I added the legend. Looks nice too! * The "1st speaker and 2nd" speaker radio buttons target the same label so they effectively have the same label. I didn't find this. The labels appear to be different and matching to the input id. In any case I test it with a screenreader and seems to work. * The "length of session" radio buttons leave out whether it is general or pre conference. (e.g., length of session 1-hr) I added some "invisible" text to the labels for each radio button indicating general or main conference. I used the font size = 0px if anyone's interested. * The "type of presentation" radio buttons target the same label. Maybe I fixed it earlier and forgot but seems to be coded correctly when I just looked. * All of your "if you have not presented..." input form controls in the table point to non-existent labels. Therefore, they are all labeled by the legend and have the same label. Added an "invisible" label for each field as per the length of session radio button labels above. * Some of your "for" attributes do not match the "id" on the corresponding form control. I went through and think I've corrected all of these. * On most of your form controls you use both a label element and the aria-labelledby attribute. This may cause some assistive technology to read the label twice. I would suggest you use one or the other, preferably the label because its backwards compatible. Removed the aria. Other issues: * Your skip links are not accessible to sighted keyboard-only users and will not work with webkit browsers. (http://whatisdamon.com/blog/2012/01/why-your-skip-to-content-link-might-not-work/) Have not fixed this one yet. * Some of your "id" attributes are not valid because they start with numbers (e.g., 1hour-ariaLabel). (http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#type-name) Corrected this. Joe Humbert, Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Specialist UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E Indianapolis, IN 46202 Office Phone: (317) 274-4378 Cell Phone: (317) 644-6824 johumber@iupui.edu http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:40 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Proposal form for AHG 2013 is up in test mode Hello All: The form is up at: http://accessinghigherground.org/wp/proposalform.php if anyone would like to try it out. You can submit real proposals. I don't want to advertise it to a larger audience until it's tested a bit. The form seems very accessible in my tests with JAWs with Firefox but JAWS with IE does not read the form controls correctly. Testing with achecker returns errors with missing labels even where I have labels. Question: with a legend tag are you still required to have a label tag. Any feedback is welcome. Thanks, Howard -- Howard Kramer CO-PI - UDUC Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula (UDUC) Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability -- Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lissner.2 at osu.edu Fri Mar 15 07:11:24 2013 From: lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, L S. (Scott )) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:09 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: FYI-Seeking Request for Proposals: Design and Development of Website for The ADA Legacy Project In-Reply-To: <7EBDF9CB5DCDF44380C5947B264C8A2C1A55BF@CC-X10MBX1.ad.uic.edu> References: <7EBDF9CB5DCDF44380C5947B264C8A2C1A55BF@CC-X10MBX1.ad.uic.edu> Message-ID: For more information about the ADA Legacy Project visit their Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/ADALegacy or read an article posted by Access Press about the project at http://www.accesspress.org/2013/02/ada-legacy-project-seeks-to-preserve-display-history/ The ADA Legacy Project is pleased to request proposals for the design and development of its website. Mission The mission of The ADA Legacy Project is to honor the contributions of people with disabilities and their allies by: * preserving and promoting the history of the disability rights movement; * celebrating the impact of the Americans with Disabilities Act, as well as other related disability rights legislation and accomplishments; and * creating opportunities for inclusion, access, and equal rights for the future. Purpose The purpose of the website is to help the world understand disability rights as a human rights issue by: * Preserving our history * Celebrating our accomplishments * Educating our future Goals 1. Create a web-based platform to engage and empower the public through: * Preservation: provide a "one-stop" portal that offers links to existing disability history exhibits, programs, collections, and resources; encourages safe-keeping of individual and organizational material; and involves the community in telling the story of disability history * Celebration: raise public awareness of various milestones - including the 25th anniversary of passage of the ADA - with links and interactive maps to connect to local activities * Education: raise awareness of current issues facing people with disabilities and opportunities to create a future where all people are accepted and valued for who and how they are 1. Provide a platform to raise funds to support The ADA Legacy Project 2. Track data sets on website activities to monitor progress, assess the impact, and identify ongoing needs Values 1. A platform that invites participation from the community 2. A platform that is accessible 3. A platform that offers fresh content on a regular basis Implementation Phases * Phase One: July 2013 * Phase Two: January 2014 * Phase Three: July 2014 * Phase Four: January 2015 Request for Proposals Web designers and developers are invited to submit proposals, including concepts and budget, to Kristen Vincent. All proposals will be reviewed and considered by the Communications Committee of The ADA Legacy Project. Preference is given to applicants with disabilities. Questions Contact Kristen Vincent, Coordinator for The ADA Legacy Project, at kristen@adalegacy.com or 770/823-4848. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer at ahead.org Fri Mar 15 07:41:33 2013 From: hkramer at ahead.org (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Proposal form for AHG 2013 is up in test mode In-Reply-To: <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B75302A6718@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> References: <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B75302927B0@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B75302A6718@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> Message-ID: Thanks Joe. BTW - on the first item, the instructions are presented after login. I'll address the other issues. -Howard On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Humbert, Joseph A wrote: > Howard,**** > > ** ** > > You still need text-based instructions on how to identify required fields. > (e.g., Required fields are marked with an asterisk (*) before the form > label and are yellow) at the top of the page.**** > > ** ** > > It seems you have a warning in red at the top of the page, you might want > to put the words ?warning:? in the actual text and make it a heading.**** > > ** ** > > We have found this CSS works across multiple browsers to hide screen > reading software accessible text:**** > > ** ** > > .auraltext {**** > > clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);**** > > height: 1px;**** > > overflow: hidden;**** > > position: absolute;**** > > width: 1px;**** > > }**** > > ** ** > > I would remove the ?row #? from the past presentation labels since they > are already in a table and that information might be repeated. (e.g., date > of conference 1)**** > > ** ** > > These controls still have the aria:**** > > ** ** > > aria-labelledby="TopicInfo-ariaLabel">**** > > value="0" aria-labelledby="consentaudio_no-ariaLabel">**** > > ** ** > > Besides my first suggestion, the form is very accessible and the other > suggestions are minor. I hope you get lots of presentations J**** > > ** ** > > - Joe**** > > ** ** > > *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: > athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Howard Kramer > *Sent:* Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:27 PM > > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Proposal form for AHG 2013 is up in test mode**** > > ** ** > > Hmm - looks like I need to check those label names again.**** > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Howard Kramer wrote:* > *** > > Hi Joe,**** > > ** ** > > I addressed the issues you mentioned as indicated below, in case you or > someone else wants to check the corrections.**** > > ** ** > > Thanks,**** > > Howard**** > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Humbert, Joseph A > wrote:**** > > Answer: Yes you still need a label element with a fieldset/legend > combination. Otherwise every form control would have the same label.**** > > **** > > The form accessibility issues that I found are:**** > > **** > > ? You don?t have instructions on how to identify required form > controls for sighted users (without hovering over the form control).**** > > Now have * and yellow field to indicate required. **** > > ? Required form controls are denoted in the title attribute. > But since the form control has a label many assistive technology will not > read the title unless specifically set to read it as well.**** > > addressed via above **** > > ? Since you have the same form controls for both speakers, you > have two form controls with the same label but different purposes. You > should make 1st speaker and 2nd speaker legends.**** > > I added the legend. Looks nice too! **** > > ? The ?1st speaker and 2nd? speaker radio buttons target the > same label so they effectively have the same label.**** > > I didn't find this. The labels appear to be different and matching to > the input id. In any case I test it with a screenreader and seems to work. > **** > > ? The ?length of session? radio buttons leave out whether it is > general or pre conference. (e.g., length of session 1-hr)**** > > I added some "invisible" text to the labels for each radio button > indicating general or main conference. I used the font size = 0px if > anyone's interested. **** > > ? The ?type of presentation? radio buttons target the same label. > **** > > Maybe I fixed it earlier and forgot but seems to be coded correctly when > I just looked. **** > > ? All of your ?if you have not presented?? input form controls > in the table point to non-existent labels. Therefore, they are all labeled > by the legend and have the same label.**** > > Added an "invisible" label for each field as per the length of session > radio button labels above.**** > > ? Some of your ?for? attributes do not match the ?id? on the > corresponding form control.**** > > I went through and think I've corrected all of these. **** > > ? On most of your form controls you use both a label element and > the aria-labelledby attribute. This may cause some assistive technology to > read the label twice. I would suggest you use one or the other, preferably > the label because its backwards compatible.**** > > Removed the aria.**** > > **** > > **** > > Other issues:**** > > **** > > ? Your skip links are not accessible to sighted keyboard-only > users and will not work with webkit browsers. ( > http://whatisdamon.com/blog/2012/01/why-your-skip-to-content-link-might-not-work/ > )**** > > Have not fixed this one yet. **** > > ? Some of your ?id? attributes are not valid because they start > with numbers (e.g., 1hour-ariaLabel). ( > http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#type-name)**** > > Corrected this.**** > > **** > > Joe Humbert, Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Specialist**** > > UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers**** > > Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington**** > > 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E**** > > Indianapolis, IN 46202**** > > Office Phone: (317) 274-4378**** > > Cell Phone: (317) 644-6824**** > > johumber@iupui.edu**** > > http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/ **** > > **** > > *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: > athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Howard Kramer > *Sent:* Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:40 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* [Athen] Proposal form for AHG 2013 is up in test mode**** > > **** > > Hello All:**** > > **** > > The form is up at: http://accessinghigherground.org/wp/proposalform.phpif anyone would like to try it out. You can submit real proposals. I don't > want to advertise it to a larger audience until it's tested a bit.**** > > **** > > The form seems very accessible in my tests with JAWs with Firefox but JAWS > with IE does not read the form controls correctly. Testing with achecker > returns errors with missing labels even where I have labels.**** > > **** > > Question: with a legend tag are you still required to have a label tag.*** > * > > **** > > Any feedback is welcome.**** > > **** > > Thanks,**** > > Howard > **** > > **** > > -- **** > > Howard Kramer**** > > CO-PI - UDUC**** > > *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula > (UDUC)***** > > Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin**** > > 303-492-8672**** > > cell: 720-351-8668**** > > **** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list**** > > > > **** > > ** ** > > -- **** > > Howard Kramer**** > > Conference Coordinator**** > > Accessing Higher Ground**** > > 303-492-8672**** > > cell: 720-351-8668**** > > ** ** > > AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability**** > > ** ** > > > > **** > > ** ** > > -- **** > > Howard Kramer**** > > Conference Coordinator**** > > Accessing Higher Ground**** > > 303-492-8672**** > > cell: 720-351-8668**** > > ** ** > > AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Catherine.Stager-kilcommons at Colorado.EDU Fri Mar 15 16:33:26 2013 From: Catherine.Stager-kilcommons at Colorado.EDU (Catherine M. Stager Kilcommons) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] ALEKS Message-ID: <83F43AAD78907C4F919AFB7E5E92B4FDB2DB83903F@EXC2.ad.colorado.edu> Hello All, Yes, once again the ALEKS accessibility issues are coming under scrutiny here on campus. At this point we are curious if other institutions have been putting pressure on McGraw-Hill to make the exam more accessible. Would other folks be interested in collaborating on a multi university campaign of concern, not unlike what we did with Blackboard? With the support of tools such as Poet and DIAGRAM, is there validity in their argument of saying that they need to wait for MathML to have more browser support and adoption? Should that be the only solution for making this assessment platform accessible? 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I guess we are not using it here in our campus but I would be glad to collaborate and help in any way and shape I can. Thanks, Hadi ________________________________ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Catherine M. Stager Kilcommons Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 6:33 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] ALEKS Hello All, Yes, once again the ALEKS accessibility issues are coming under scrutiny here on campus. At this point we are curious if other institutions have been putting pressure on McGraw-Hill to make the exam more accessible. Would other folks be interested in collaborating on a multi university campaign of concern, not unlike what we did with Blackboard? With the support of tools such as Poet and DIAGRAM, is there validity in their argument of saying that they need to wait for MathML to have more browser support and adoption? Should that be the only solution for making this assessment platform accessible? Thanks for any and all comments, Cath Stager-Kilcommons Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator Disability Services / Office of Diversity, Equity, and Community Engagement N234 Center for Community University of Colorado Boulder 303-492-4049 http://DisabilityServices.Colorado.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg_kraus at ncsu.edu Sat Mar 16 04:25:07 2013 From: greg_kraus at ncsu.edu (Greg Kraus) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] WCAG2 for e-texts Message-ID: I've been asked recently about the appropriateness of applying WCAG2 to e-texts. I would appreciate any input people have on this who are more intimately involved with e-text production than I am. What are the strengths and weaknesses of it? Thanks. Greg -- Greg Kraus University IT Accessibility Coordinator NC State University 919.513.4087 greg_kraus@ncsu.edu From petri.1 at osu.edu Sat Mar 16 14:00:39 2013 From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Ken Petri) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: ALEKS In-Reply-To: References: <83F43AAD78907C4F919AFB7E5E92B4FDB2DB83903F@EXC2.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: Hi Catherine, For clarification, there is/was interest in ALEKS at OSU but I have never met with them to discuss it. As for the MathML not supported in browsers argument, I don't find that valid. With MathJax I just don't think you can argue that MathML can't be rendered. You can argue it can't be read in many screen reader/browser combinations, and you'd be correct, but MathJax will render math visually in all browsers that have JavaScript enabled -- which means pretty much all browsers can render MathML, with some assistance from MathJax. And if you're using MathPlayer in IE, all of the major Windows screen readers will read the MathML pretty effectively. If the system were producing both the rendered MathML and a LaTex fall-back, seems to me most situations would be covered. (It is possible to get MathJax to show the TeX version of equations and it can "hint" the MathML islands with TeX equations, but I'm not sure how well this will work with a screen reader). Oh, and MathPlayer does not seem to work at all in IE 10. So, some problems, but not enough to "wait" until there is better browser support, IMO. ken [image: The Ohio State University] Ken Petri, Program Director Web Accessibility Center, ADA Coordinator's Office and Office for Disability Services 102D Pomerene Hall | 1760 Neil Ave. Columbus, OH 43210 614-292-1760 Office | 614-218-1499 Mobile | 614-292-4190 Fax petri.1@osu.edu wac.osu.edu On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Rangin, Hadi Bargi wrote: > ** > Hi Cath, > > I love your idea and motivation for collaboration. It is definitely the > right way to go. > > I know Ken was interested in accessibility of Aleks some time ago and he > even initiated a kind of meeting with them. I was invited to the meeting > but I don't exactly recall what has been decided for. > > I guess we are not using it here in our campus but I would be glad to > collaborate and help in any way and shape I can. > > Thanks, > Hadi > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: > athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Catherine M. > Stager Kilcommons > *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2013 6:33 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] ALEKS > > Hello All, > Yes, once again the ALEKS accessibility issues are coming under scrutiny > here on campus. > At this point we are curious if other institutions have been putting > pressure on McGraw-Hill to make the exam more accessible. > > Would other folks be interested in collaborating on a multi university > campaign of concern, not unlike what we did with Blackboard? > > With the support of tools such as Poet and DIAGRAM, is there validity in > their argument of saying that they need to wait for MathML to have more > browser support and adoption? Should that be the only solution for making > this assessment platform accessible? > > Thanks for any and all comments, > > Cath Stager-Kilcommons > Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator > Disability Services / Office of Diversity, Equity, and Community Engagement > N234 Center for Community > University of Colorado Boulder > 303-492-4049 > *http://DisabilityServices.Colorado.edu* > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsuttondc at gmail.com Sat Mar 16 15:22:13 2013 From: jsuttondc at gmail.com (Jennifer Sutton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] WCAG2 for e-texts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20130316145802.05dd56f8@gmail.com> Dear Greg and other Athenites: I'm not sure I entirely understand your question. I see nothing but strengths regarding the idea of considering ebooks in light of WCAG 2. That being said, I see the term "etext" being used on this list to mean all kinds of electronic content. So perhaps I should clarify that I'd be thinking of ePub, DAISY content, and even, yes, PDF. I imagine there are portions of WCAG 2 that also apply to Word documents. Since I believe that the DAISY consortium, the IDPF, and the W3C seek to foster standards harmonization, I think all three seek to take each others' needs into account. Since I recently posted many links on this subject to the WebAIM list, I'll repost them all below my name, in case the collection may prove helpful to those on this list, too. At the top of the list, I'll add a few more related to PDF. Best, Jennifer PDF Techniques | Techniques for WCAG 2.0 http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20-TECHS/pdf.html The official PDF/UA Technical Implementation Guide is here! http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2rUuvX/duff-johnson.com/2013/03/05/the-pdfua-technical-implementation-guide-arriveth/ A new tool that I just saw, but I don't know anything about: pdfGoHTML: PDF Reflow Done Right | Duff Johnson Strategy and Communications http://duff-johnson.com/2013/01/21/pdfgohtml-pdf-reflow-done-right/ A link to the Web AIM thread, in which there are six posts. Two of them are mine, below: http://webaim.org/discussion/mail_thread?thread=5765 *** WebAIM Post 1: >Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 20:29:32 -0800 >To: WebAIM Discussion List > >Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Q: accessibility for ebooks, epubs, kindles, etc. > > >Greetings, WebAIM: > >I spent about 15 minutes with Google in order to pull together the >following resource set about EPub 3. It's less "Benetech-centric" >than what has been posted so far. I'm a fan of standards, not a >specific organizational approach, so that's where I always start. > >I hope many will find this collection useful. > >Links are below my name. Numbering is for tracking, rather than to >denote prioritization. > >If I've missed anything, I hope others will contribute. > >Jennifer > > >1. Book by Matt Garrish from O'Reilly Media: >http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920025283.do > >2. Visit the site of the International Digital Publishing Forum >(IDPF) which is the standards-making body for ePub: >http://www.idpf.org > >3. Forums on the IDPF site: >http://idpf.org/forums > >4. EPUB 3 Accessibility Guidelines >http://idpf.org/accessibility/guidelines/ > >5. EPub Check, for validation: >http://code.google.com/p/epubcheck/ > >6. A recent thread on the Access Technology in Higher Education >email list about accessible ePub production: >http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/2013-February/007170.html > >7. Creating accessible eBooks - RNIB: >http://www.rnib.org.uk/professionals/solutionsforbusiness/publishing/publishertechnical/ebooksaccessible/Pages/accessible_ebook_creation.aspx > >Shortened: >http://bit.ly/12zfaPG > > >8. Content on SlideShare, related to the DAISY Consortium and some >is ePub3, as well: >http://www.slideshare.net/daisyconsortium *** WebAIM post 2: >Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:44:14 -0800 >To: WebAIM Discussion List > >Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Q: accessibility for ebooks, epubs, kindles, etc. >Greetings, WebAIM: > >I thought I'd post four more items on this subject of ebooks/ePub, >and then, I'll stop. > >But I think these are valuable additions to what I posted the other day. > >I hope those working on HTML5, CSS, etc. will especially take note >of the summary of the recent W3C workshop and help to foster >standards harmonization. > >Links below my name. > >Best, >Jennifer > > >eBooks: Great Expectations - A W3C Workshop on Electronic Books and >Open Web Platform - 11-12 February 2013 >http://www.w3.org/2012/08/electronic-books/rapportebook.html > >Rich multi-media and a web of devices is driving us to a world of >standards - Tools of Change for Publishing >http://toc.oreilly.com/2013/02/rich-multi-media-and-a-web-of-devices-is-driving-us-to-a-world-of-standards.html > >EPUB 3 demo/sample files wanted: >http://t.co/mg4VgsyVUj > >This article focuses on a conference held in the UK >ebooks and accessibility; "readable with eyes, ears and fingers" | >atis4all | Scoop.it >http://ebookscambridge.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/ebooks-and-accessibility-readable-with-eyes-ears-and-fingers/ At 04:25 AM 3/16/2013, Greg Kraus wrote: >I've been asked recently about the appropriateness of applying WCAG2 >to e-texts. I would appreciate any input people have on this who are >more intimately involved with e-text production than I am. What are >the strengths and weaknesses of it? > >Thanks. > >Greg > >-- >Greg Kraus >University IT Accessibility Coordinator >NC State University >919.513.4087 >greg_kraus@ncsu.edu From osullivana at missouri.edu Mon Mar 18 06:48:06 2013 From: osullivana at missouri.edu (OSullivan, Abigail R.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: ALEKS In-Reply-To: References: <83F43AAD78907C4F919AFB7E5E92B4FDB2DB83903F@EXC2.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: University of Missouri would love to join in this conversation. We use ALEKS on our campus and would like to join the effort to discuss this more with McGraw Hill. Thanks Abbie O'Sullivan Sent from my iPad On Mar 15, 2013, at 10:04 PM, "Rangin, Hadi Bargi" > wrote: Hi Cath, I love your idea and motivation for collaboration. It is definitely the right way to go. I know Ken was interested in accessibility of Aleks some time ago and he even initiated a kind of meeting with them. I was invited to the meeting but I don't exactly recall what has been decided for. I guess we are not using it here in our campus but I would be glad to collaborate and help in any way and shape I can. Thanks, Hadi ________________________________ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Catherine M. Stager Kilcommons Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 6:33 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] ALEKS Hello All, Yes, once again the ALEKS accessibility issues are coming under scrutiny here on campus. At this point we are curious if other institutions have been putting pressure on McGraw-Hill to make the exam more accessible. Would other folks be interested in collaborating on a multi university campaign of concern, not unlike what we did with Blackboard? With the support of tools such as Poet and DIAGRAM, is there validity in their argument of saying that they need to wait for MathML to have more browser support and adoption? Should that be the only solution for making this assessment platform accessible? Thanks for any and all comments, Cath Stager-Kilcommons Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator Disability Services / Office of Diversity, Equity, and Community Engagement N234 Center for Community University of Colorado Boulder 303-492-4049 http://DisabilityServices.Colorado.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Mon Mar 18 07:43:26 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] WCAG2 for e-texts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <021c01ce23e6$f35690f0$da03b2d0$@ahead.org> Morning all, The primary problem is that WCAG2 does not have the requirements for the necessary structural and navigation elements for effective use of curricular content. For effective use of digital curriculum you need page numbers, the content broken down by section and appropriate heading structure applied to the content i.e. H1 for book and chapter titles, H2 for section, H3 for subsections so on. Secondly you may need more elaborate descriptive text applied to images (think longdesc) and finally you need all the front matter and back matter for the book. I also try to maintain structural consistency in the e-materials that I create or convert. I leave in structural graphics and apply NullAlts, so that these navigation indicators remain in the content as well. In the ePub3 spec many of these items are in the optional requirement and it is also my understanding that no effective way to handle long descriptive text as well. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Kraus Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:25 AM To: ATHEN Subject: [Athen] WCAG2 for e-texts I've been asked recently about the appropriateness of applying WCAG2 to e-texts. I would appreciate any input people have on this who are more intimately involved with e-text production than I am. What are the strengths and weaknesses of it? Thanks. Greg -- Greg Kraus University IT Accessibility Coordinator NC State University 919.513.4087 greg_kraus@ncsu.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From JPielaet at clark.edu Mon Mar 18 08:54:06 2013 From: JPielaet at clark.edu (Pielaet, Jon) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Re: WCAG2 for e-texts Message-ID: <0DCAA4C8ADB52849B978F000A4AB7669012E86F9@Exch-Back-1.clark.edu> Greg, The WCAG 2.0 standards were designed for web content so their strength is in bringing accessibility to web technologies like HTML\CSS Javascript and a like. Most institutions are creating e-texts that use other technologies so applying WCAG standards doesn't make much sense. That being said, the developing ePUB standard does make use of these web technologies. As ePub brings rich web-like content to electronic books, the WCAG may become more relevant to alternate format production. Jennifer shared some great resources for learning about ePub and the merging of these technologies if you are interested in learning more. I think the core of your question has to do with setting a standard to ensure some level of accessibility for your in-house production. If this is true, and as Jennifer also suggested, the answer would depend on what formats you are producing. The core principles of WCAG can always be applied however. Your e-texts should be POUR: Perceivable Operable Understandable Robust Jon Jon Pielaet Clark College Disability Support Services Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist 1933 Fort Vancouver Way Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 (360) 992-2314 (360) 992-2879 Fax (360) 991-0901 Video Phone jpielaet@clark.edu http://www.clark.edu/dss -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 12:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 13 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: RE: ALEKS (Ken Petri) 2. Re: WCAG2 for e-texts (Jennifer Sutton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 17:00:39 -0400 From: Ken Petri Subject: Re: [Athen] RE: ALEKS To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Catherine, For clarification, there is/was interest in ALEKS at OSU but I have never met with them to discuss it. As for the MathML not supported in browsers argument, I don't find that valid. With MathJax I just don't think you can argue that MathML can't be rendered. You can argue it can't be read in many screen reader/browser combinations, and you'd be correct, but MathJax will render math visually in all browsers that have JavaScript enabled -- which means pretty much all browsers can render MathML, with some assistance from MathJax. And if you're using MathPlayer in IE, all of the major Windows screen readers will read the MathML pretty effectively. If the system were producing both the rendered MathML and a LaTex fall-back, seems to me most situations would be covered. (It is possible to get MathJax to show the TeX version of equations and it can "hint" the MathML islands with TeX equations, but I'm not sure how well this will work with a screen reader). Oh, and MathPlayer does not seem to work at all in IE 10. So, some problems, but not enough to "wait" until there is better browser support, IMO. ken [image: The Ohio State University] Ken Petri, Program Director Web Accessibility Center, ADA Coordinator's Office and Office for Disability Services 102D Pomerene Hall | 1760 Neil Ave. Columbus, OH 43210 614-292-1760 Office | 614-218-1499 Mobile | 614-292-4190 Fax petri.1@osu.edu wac.osu.edu On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Rangin, Hadi Bargi wrote: > ** > Hi Cath, > > I love your idea and motivation for collaboration. It is definitely > the right way to go. > > I know Ken was interested in accessibility of Aleks some time ago and > he even initiated a kind of meeting with them. I was invited to the > meeting but I don't exactly recall what has been decided for. > > I guess we are not using it here in our campus but I would be glad to > collaborate and help in any way and shape I can. > > Thanks, > Hadi > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: > athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Catherine M. > Stager Kilcommons > *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2013 6:33 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] ALEKS > > Hello All, > Yes, once again the ALEKS accessibility issues are coming under > scrutiny here on campus. > At this point we are curious if other institutions have been putting > pressure on McGraw-Hill to make the exam more accessible. > > Would other folks be interested in collaborating on a multi university > campaign of concern, not unlike what we did with Blackboard? > > With the support of tools such as Poet and DIAGRAM, is there validity > in their argument of saying that they need to wait for MathML to have more > browser support and adoption? Should that be the only solution for making > this assessment platform accessible? > > Thanks for any and all comments, > > Cath Stager-Kilcommons > Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator > Disability Services / Office of Diversity, Equity, and Community > Engagement > N234 Center for Community > University of Colorado Boulder > 303-492-4049 > *http://DisabilityServices.Colorado.edu* orado.edu> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130316/fb6c1da3/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 15:22:13 -0700 From: Jennifer Sutton Subject: Re: [Athen] WCAG2 for e-texts To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20130316145802.05dd56f8@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear Greg and other Athenites: I'm not sure I entirely understand your question. I see nothing but strengths regarding the idea of considering ebooks in light of WCAG 2. That being said, I see the term "etext" being used on this list to mean all kinds of electronic content. So perhaps I should clarify that I'd be thinking of ePub, DAISY content, and even, yes, PDF. I imagine there are portions of WCAG 2 that also apply to Word documents. Since I believe that the DAISY consortium, the IDPF, and the W3C seek to foster standards harmonization, I think all three seek to take each others' needs into account. Since I recently posted many links on this subject to the WebAIM list, I'll repost them all below my name, in case the collection may prove helpful to those on this list, too. At the top of the list, I'll add a few more related to PDF. Best, Jennifer PDF Techniques | Techniques for WCAG 2.0 http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20-TECHS/pdf.html The official PDF/UA Technical Implementation Guide is here! http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2rUuvX/duff-johnson.com/2013/03/05/the-pdfua-technical-implementation-guide-arriveth/ A new tool that I just saw, but I don't know anything about: pdfGoHTML: PDF Reflow Done Right | Duff Johnson Strategy and Communications http://duff-johnson.com/2013/01/21/pdfgohtml-pdf-reflow-done-right/ A link to the Web AIM thread, in which there are six posts. Two of them are mine, below: http://webaim.org/discussion/mail_thread?thread=5765 *** WebAIM Post 1: >Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 20:29:32 -0800 >To: WebAIM Discussion List > >Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Q: accessibility for ebooks, epubs, kindles, etc. > > >Greetings, WebAIM: > >I spent about 15 minutes with Google in order to pull together the >following resource set about EPub 3. It's less "Benetech-centric" >than what has been posted so far. I'm a fan of standards, not a >specific organizational approach, so that's where I always start. > >I hope many will find this collection useful. > >Links are below my name. Numbering is for tracking, rather than to >denote prioritization. > >If I've missed anything, I hope others will contribute. > >Jennifer > > >1. Book by Matt Garrish from O'Reilly Media: >http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920025283.do > >2. Visit the site of the International Digital Publishing Forum >(IDPF) which is the standards-making body for ePub: >http://www.idpf.org > >3. Forums on the IDPF site: >http://idpf.org/forums > >4. EPUB 3 Accessibility Guidelines >http://idpf.org/accessibility/guidelines/ > >5. EPub Check, for validation: >http://code.google.com/p/epubcheck/ > >6. A recent thread on the Access Technology in Higher Education >email list about accessible ePub production: >http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/2013-February/007170.html > >7. Creating accessible eBooks - RNIB: >http://www.rnib.org.uk/professionals/solutionsforbusiness/publishing/publishertechnical/ebooksaccessible/Pages/accessible_ebook_creation.aspx > >Shortened: >http://bit.ly/12zfaPG > > >8. Content on SlideShare, related to the DAISY Consortium and some >is ePub3, as well: >http://www.slideshare.net/daisyconsortium *** WebAIM post 2: >Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:44:14 -0800 >To: WebAIM Discussion List > >Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Q: accessibility for ebooks, epubs, kindles, etc. >Greetings, WebAIM: > >I thought I'd post four more items on this subject of ebooks/ePub, >and then, I'll stop. > >But I think these are valuable additions to what I posted the other day. > >I hope those working on HTML5, CSS, etc. will especially take note >of the summary of the recent W3C workshop and help to foster >standards harmonization. > >Links below my name. > >Best, >Jennifer > > >eBooks: Great Expectations - A W3C Workshop on Electronic Books and >Open Web Platform - 11-12 February 2013 >http://www.w3.org/2012/08/electronic-books/rapportebook.html > >Rich multi-media and a web of devices is driving us to a world of >standards - Tools of Change for Publishing >http://toc.oreilly.com/2013/02/rich-multi-media-and-a-web-of-devices-is-driving-us-to-a-world-of-standards.html > >EPUB 3 demo/sample files wanted: >http://t.co/mg4VgsyVUj > >This article focuses on a conference held in the UK >ebooks and accessibility; "readable with eyes, ears and fingers" | >atis4all | Scoop.it >http://ebookscambridge.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/ebooks-and-accessibility-readable-with-eyes-ears-and-fingers/ At 04:25 AM 3/16/2013, Greg Kraus wrote: >I've been asked recently about the appropriateness of applying WCAG2 >to e-texts. I would appreciate any input people have on this who are >more intimately involved with e-text production than I am. What are >the strengths and weaknesses of it? > >Thanks. > >Greg > >-- >Greg Kraus >University IT Accessibility Coordinator >NC State University >919.513.4087 >greg_kraus@ncsu.edu ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list End of athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 13 ****************************************** From skeegan at stanford.edu Mon Mar 18 09:38:51 2013 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: ALEKS In-Reply-To: References: <83F43AAD78907C4F919AFB7E5E92B4FDB2DB83903F@EXC2.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <4CBEA698-E3F6-4F7E-9EE3-1379F5631EAE@stanford.edu> > Oh, and MathPlayer does not seem to work at all in IE 10. At CSUN, Design Science mentioned the lack of support for MathPlayer in IE 10 and said they were not expecting any changes going forward. While no one would say it outright, the message was that MathPlayer support would not be continuing in further iterations of IE. I also found out that the Chrome browser dropped MathML support with version 25 (it was there for version 24) citing stability and security issues. MathJax seems to be the only real model for cross-browser support moving forward, but in terms of accessibility there are a number of issues. For assistive technology access, I see a need to move to supporting MathML directly as current options are dwindling. Take care, sean Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at ucla.edu Mon Mar 18 10:14:53 2013 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] University Webmasters Listserv Message-ID: <23646_1363626905_r2IHF4Dh026398_201303181714.r2IHErcM001071@mail.ucla.edu> Hi all, I just heard about another listserv. Has anyone participated in this one?: uwebd list (aka, "University and College Webmasters" list)- * https://listserver.itd.umich.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=uwebd Could be a good platform for accessibility activities. Thanks, Patrick -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke@ucla.edu Location: 4909 Math Science Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu From ron at ahead.org Mon Mar 18 10:52:28 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: ALEKS In-Reply-To: <4CBEA698-E3F6-4F7E-9EE3-1379F5631EAE@stanford.edu> References: <83F43AAD78907C4F919AFB7E5E92B4FDB2DB83903F@EXC2.ad.colorado.edu> <4CBEA698-E3F6-4F7E-9EE3-1379F5631EAE@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <029801ce2401$5b3d3bf0$11b7b3d0$@ahead.org> Sean and I have talked about this issue extensively. My though is that we are going to need to develop some public/private partnerships to continue this work. Once again we have gotten so close, but never to the goal in regards to browser based STEM accessibility. While I cannot directly participate in the ALEKS work it is an area that is failing. Ron Stewart From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 11:39 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] RE: ALEKS > Oh, and MathPlayer does not seem to work at all in IE 10. At CSUN, Design Science mentioned the lack of support for MathPlayer in IE 10 and said they were not expecting any changes going forward. While no one would say it outright, the message was that MathPlayer support would not be continuing in further iterations of IE. I also found out that the Chrome browser dropped MathML support with version 25 (it was there for version 24) citing stability and security issues. MathJax seems to be the only real model for cross-browser support moving forward, but in terms of accessibility there are a number of issues. For assistive technology access, I see a need to move to supporting MathML directly as current options are dwindling. Take care, sean Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Lewis.Phillips at austin.utexas.edu Mon Mar 18 12:21:58 2013 From: Lewis.Phillips at austin.utexas.edu (Phillips, Lewis D) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Can you help benchmarking web accessibility resources at your institutions? Message-ID: <65D318DD456AE24681699936B3B39900352C8D6E@EXMBX01.austin.utexas.edu> At The University of Texas at Austin Information Technology Services (ITS) provides testing of websites, web applications and external software products to ensure access for hearing, visual and manual dexterity disabilities. We are benchmarking our staffing levels against various institutions and would appreciate input based on your institution. 1. Talk to me about the size of your institution. For example; a. What is the numbers of disciplines or colleges? b. How many students are enrolled? c. How large is your web presence? d. What is your approximate number of web pages? 2. Do you have a department on campus that provides services for students with disabilities? a. What is the number of students with disabilities that are registered? b. Does ITS provide services for students with disabilities? c. Does ITS have any staff hours (FTEs) dedicated to these services? d. If so, what services do you provide? 3. When there are web accessibility issues on public pages who fixes the issue? a. The department? b. Centrally? 4. When there are web accessibility issues on student facing pages who fixes the issue? a. The department? b. Centrally? 5. When there are web accessibility issues on administrative pages who fixes the issue? a. The department? b. Centrally? 6. What is the role of central ITS in testing and fixing web accessibility issues on public pages? a. Do you have any staff hours (FTEs) dedicated to these services? 7. What is the role of central ITS in testing and fixing web accessibility issues on student facing pages? a. Do you have any staff hours (FTEs) dedicated to these services? 8. What is the role of central ITS in testing and fixing web accessibility issues on administrative pages? a. Do you have any staff hours (FTEs) dedicated to these services? 9. Does ITS have a department/section for testing web accessibility issues for internally developed web applications? a. Do you have any staff hours (FTEs) dedicated to these services? 10. Does ITS have a department/section for testing web accessibility issues for purchased software? a. Do you have any staff hours (FTEs) dedicated to these services? 11. Does ITS provide training for creating accessible web pages and applications? a. How many staff hours (FTEs) dedicated to this training? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Lewis Phillips Web Technologies Team Applications - ITS University of Texas at Austin lewis.phillips@austin.utexas.edu 232-6421 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 6240 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alpuzz at msu.edu Tue Mar 19 06:24:38 2013 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of Various Library eText Platforms? Message-ID: Our Library currently receives eTexts via a number of providers. It seems like every company under the sun has its own platform, and this decentralization is really a concern. Testing for, and insuring the accessibility of each is akin to hearding cats. We are assisting the library in evaluating the accessibility of several major platforms: Ebrary, Springer, Wiley, Elsevier and Ebsco. I'm curious as to whether others have already looked at any of these and what your findings were if so? Thanks very much for any input, Al Puzzuoli Michigan State University Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kzirkle1 at gmu.edu Tue Mar 19 06:34:56 2013 From: kzirkle1 at gmu.edu (Kara Zirkle) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of Various Library eText Platforms? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51486980.3050104@gmu.edu> Hello all, We are currently in the same boat. We just met with the library and began review of the major vendors and now have a listing of all A-Z databases. We are looking at close 800 databases and almost 200 vendors. I've only begun searching for information on accessibility and requesting VPATs from vendors. I figure that is a start to see how quickly I receive something back to tell me where I need to start reviewing. This is a complete mess since it involves major companies, small mom and pop places and even government and universities databases. If anyone has any suggestions or ideas I'm open! Kara Zirkle IT Accessibility Coordinator Assistive Technology Initiative Aquia Building, RM 238 Mail Stop: 6A11 Fairfax Campus 4400 University Drive Fairfax, VA 22030 Phone: 703-993-9815 Main Office Phone: 703-993-4329 Fax: 703-993-4743 http://webaccessibility.gmu.edu http://ati.gmu.edu http://accessibility.gmu.edu On 3/19/2013 9:24 AM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: > > Our Library currently receives eTexts via a number of providers. It > seems like every company under the sun has its own platform, and this > decentralization is really a concern. Testing for, and insuring the > accessibility of each is akin to hearding cats. We are assisting the > library in evaluating the accessibility of several major platforms: > Ebrary, Springer, Wiley, Elsevier and Ebsco. I'm curious as to whether > others have already looked at any of these and what your findings > were if so? > > Thanks very much for any input, > > Al Puzzuoli > > Michigan State University > > Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu > > Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 Bessey > Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CHerrera at qcc.cuny.edu Tue Mar 19 07:46:10 2013 From: CHerrera at qcc.cuny.edu (Herrera, Carlos M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] CUNY Accessibility Conference information Message-ID: If any folks are in the NYC area and available on April 5th, please come and exchange knowledge. Also, please circulate amongst any interested parties. Registration for 4th Annual CUNY Accessibility Conference Now Open The Council on Student Disability Issues (COSDI) and CUNY Assistive Technology Services (CATS) invite you to register today for the 4th Annual CUNY Accessibility Conference. Join us at John Jay College on Friday, April 5th, 2013 from 9 am to 2 pm as CUNY disability services professionals, assistive technology specialists and other experts in the field come together to present informative workshops on innovative programs, services and products that help increase access to CUNY by students with disabilities. Presentation topics will include Autism and Asperger's, Employment and Disability, Kurzweil 3000 Web Edition, Accommodating Students with Learning Disabilities, Student Veterans Services, Video Captioning and Inclusion of Students with Disabilities in National Service Learning. Addressing the CUNY Accessibility Conference as Keynote Speaker will be Dr. Frank D. Sanchez, CUNY Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs. For over 20 years Dr. Sanchez has worked to advance campus student services, programs and policies aimed at increasing student success and degree completion. Dr. Sanchez has also directly managed housing and residence life systems, multicultural affairs operations, disability services and academic success curriculum and resources. Come hear Dr. Sanchez as he shares his thoughts on the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead in providing access to students with disabilities at CUNY. 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We had a situation recently in which a graduate student wanted the equation to be read in one way if it was in-line with the text of the document, but read in a different way if it was part of a larger equation on the page. The best we have been able to develop from a software solution model is to create the equation in MathType as part of a MS Word document. From this, we can create a full-text/full-audio DAISY book that speaks the math equations based on the MathDAISY rendering. Unfortunately, this may not be what the student prefers to hear as the math verbosity does not always match how students/faculty communicate the math expressions. Most of the students decide they would rather not listen to the math part and just focus on the text part of the document. If you want to go down the path of MathDAISY, you need to have documents authored using MathType + MS Word as DOCX. You can then use the Save-As-DAISY plugin with MathDAISY (from Design Science) installed to convert to the DAISY book. For simple equations (algebra, some calculus), this process has worked okay. It's when you get to the really complex math that the overly verbose nature of the TTS can be distracting to reading the math equations. You could also try submitting the MathType + MS Word DOCX file to the Sensus Access tool (http://sensusaccess.com/) as this will also create a full-text/full-audio DAISY book with TTS math support. No need to install the MathDAISY tool or Save-As-DAISY plug-in. Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hadi at illinois.edu Wed Mar 20 08:58:37 2013 From: hadi at illinois.edu (Rangin, Hadi Bargi) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Accessibility of Various Library eText Platforms? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Al, Yes, indeed. FYI, we have active collaboration with two major vendors namely Elsevier and Ebsco and both companies are eager to enhance the accessibility of their systems. Ranti Junus from MSU (from the same campus as you are in) has been working with us for many years. I would like to invite you and anyone who is interested in enhancing the accessibility of Elsevier and Ebsco application to join the respective groups to shape the accessibility of their products. Thanks, Hadi ________________________________ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:25 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of Various Library eText Platforms? Our Library currently receives eTexts via a number of providers. It seems like every company under the sun has its own platform, and this decentralization is really a concern. Testing for, and insuring the accessibility of each is akin to hearding cats. We are assisting the library in evaluating the accessibility of several major platforms: Ebrary, Springer, Wiley, Elsevier and Ebsco. I'm curious as to whether others have already looked at any of these and what your findings were if so? Thanks very much for any input, Al Puzzuoli Michigan State University Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Wed Mar 20 12:39:27 2013 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility Statements Message-ID: <013201ce25a2$a25a9c60$e70fd520$@ahead.org> Good afternoon all, had an interesting request. If you could set the accessibility mission statement for a company what would you say? Ron ************************************************************************* Ron Stewart MS Technology Advisor Association on Higher Education and Disabilities Chair, Technology Standing Committee Lead Chair, AHEAD Standing Committees 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@ahead.org http://www.ahead.org When you are having a reallly tough day, take a time out and think about what you have contributed to the lives of those that you have worked with. Many times it is just a baby step forward, but even that is progress! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We don't want our employees to make false statements about the accessibility of our products and services, and if they are caught fudging, fibbing, or flat out lying about accessibility, we promise to publicly mock them before cutting them loose. We are just as cynical about VPATs as you are and because of this, we promise to use them as little as possible and instead refer to this mission statement. We'll include language that addresses accessibility in all our contracts with customers. We will steal the mice from our developers on a regular and random basis." On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: > Good afternoon all, had an interesting request. If you could set the > accessibility mission statement for a company what would you say?**** > > ** ** > > Ron **** > > ** ** > -- > -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ University of Washington UW Information Technology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg_kraus at ncsu.edu Wed Mar 20 19:25:40 2013 From: greg_kraus at ncsu.edu (Greg Kraus) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Re: WCAG2 for e-texts In-Reply-To: <0DCAA4C8ADB52849B978F000A4AB7669012E86F9@Exch-Back-1.clark.edu> References: <0DCAA4C8ADB52849B978F000A4AB7669012E86F9@Exch-Back-1.clark.edu> Message-ID: Thanks all. Greg On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Pielaet, Jon wrote: > Greg, > > The WCAG 2.0 standards were designed for web content so their strength is in bringing accessibility to web technologies like HTML\CSS Javascript and a like. Most institutions are creating e-texts that use other technologies so applying WCAG standards doesn't make much sense. > That being said, the developing ePUB standard does make use of these web technologies. As ePub brings rich web-like content to electronic books, the WCAG may become more relevant to alternate format production. > > Jennifer shared some great resources for learning about ePub and the merging of these technologies if you are interested in learning more. > > I think the core of your question has to do with setting a standard to ensure some level of accessibility for your in-house production. If this is true, and as Jennifer also suggested, the answer would depend on what formats you are producing. > > The core principles of WCAG can always be applied however. Your e-texts should be POUR: > > Perceivable > Operable > Understandable > Robust > > > Jon > > > Jon Pielaet > > Clark College > Disability Support Services > Assistive Technology and IT Accessibility Specialist > 1933 Fort Vancouver Way > Vancouver, WA 98663-3598 > (360) 992-2314 > (360) 992-2879 Fax > (360) 991-0901 Video Phone > jpielaet@clark.edu > http://www.clark.edu/dss > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 12:03 PM > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 13 > > Send athen-list mailing list submissions to > athen-list@u.washington.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-list-request@mailman1.u.washington.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-list-owner@mailman1.u.washington.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: RE: ALEKS (Ken Petri) > 2. Re: WCAG2 for e-texts (Jennifer Sutton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 17:00:39 -0400 > From: Ken Petri > Subject: Re: [Athen] RE: ALEKS > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Catherine, > > For clarification, there is/was interest in ALEKS at OSU but I have never met with them to discuss it. > > As for the MathML not supported in browsers argument, I don't find that valid. With MathJax I just don't think you can argue that MathML can't be rendered. You can argue it can't be read in many screen reader/browser combinations, and you'd be correct, but MathJax will render math visually in all browsers that have JavaScript enabled -- which means pretty much all browsers can render MathML, with some assistance from MathJax. > > And if you're using MathPlayer in IE, all of the major Windows screen readers will read the MathML pretty effectively. If the system were producing both the rendered MathML and a LaTex fall-back, seems to me most situations would be covered. (It is possible to get MathJax to show the TeX version of equations and it can "hint" the MathML islands with TeX equations, but I'm not sure how well this will work with a screen reader). > Oh, and MathPlayer does not seem to work at all in IE 10. So, some problems, but not enough to "wait" until there is better browser support, IMO. > > ken > > > [image: The Ohio State University] > Ken Petri, Program Director > Web Accessibility Center, ADA Coordinator's Office and Office for Disability Services 102D Pomerene Hall | 1760 Neil Ave. Columbus, OH 43210 > 614-292-1760 Office | 614-218-1499 Mobile | 614-292-4190 Fax petri.1@osu.edu wac.osu.edu > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Rangin, Hadi Bargi wrote: > >> ** >> Hi Cath, >> >> I love your idea and motivation for collaboration. It is definitely >> the right way to go. >> >> I know Ken was interested in accessibility of Aleks some time ago and >> he even initiated a kind of meeting with them. I was invited to the >> meeting but I don't exactly recall what has been decided for. >> >> I guess we are not using it here in our campus but I would be glad to >> collaborate and help in any way and shape I can. >> >> Thanks, >> Hadi >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto: >> athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Catherine M. >> Stager Kilcommons >> *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2013 6:33 PM >> *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu >> *Subject:* [Athen] ALEKS >> >> Hello All, >> Yes, once again the ALEKS accessibility issues are coming under >> scrutiny here on campus. >> At this point we are curious if other institutions have been putting >> pressure on McGraw-Hill to make the exam more accessible. >> >> Would other folks be interested in collaborating on a multi university >> campaign of concern, not unlike what we did with Blackboard? >> >> With the support of tools such as Poet and DIAGRAM, is there validity >> in their argument of saying that they need to wait for MathML to have more >> browser support and adoption? Should that be the only solution for making >> this assessment platform accessible? >> >> Thanks for any and all comments, >> >> Cath Stager-Kilcommons >> Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator >> Disability Services / Office of Diversity, Equity, and Community >> Engagement >> N234 Center for Community >> University of Colorado Boulder >> 303-492-4049 >> *http://DisabilityServices.Colorado.edu*> orado.edu> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20130316/fb6c1da3/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 15:22:13 -0700 > From: Jennifer Sutton > Subject: Re: [Athen] WCAG2 for e-texts > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20130316145802.05dd56f8@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Dear Greg and other Athenites: > > I'm not sure I entirely understand your question. I see nothing but strengths regarding the idea of considering ebooks in light of WCAG 2. That being said, I see the term "etext" being used on this list to mean all kinds of electronic content. So perhaps I should clarify that I'd be thinking of ePub, DAISY content, and even, yes, PDF. I imagine there are portions of WCAG 2 that also apply to Word documents. > > Since I believe that the DAISY consortium, the IDPF, and the W3C seek to foster standards harmonization, I think all three seek to take each others' needs into account. > > Since I recently posted many links on this subject to the WebAIM list, I'll repost them all below my name, in case the collection may prove helpful to those on this list, too. At the top of the list, I'll add a few more related to PDF. > > Best, > Jennifer > > > PDF Techniques | Techniques for WCAG 2.0 http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20-TECHS/pdf.html > > The official PDF/UA Technical Implementation Guide is here! > http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2rUuvX/duff-johnson.com/2013/03/05/the-pdfua-technical-implementation-guide-arriveth/ > > A new tool that I just saw, but I don't know anything about: > pdfGoHTML: PDF Reflow Done Right | Duff Johnson Strategy and Communications http://duff-johnson.com/2013/01/21/pdfgohtml-pdf-reflow-done-right/ > > > A link to the Web AIM thread, in which there are six posts. Two of them are mine, below: > http://webaim.org/discussion/mail_thread?thread=5765 > > > *** WebAIM Post 1: >>Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 20:29:32 -0800 >>To: WebAIM Discussion List >> >>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Q: accessibility for ebooks, epubs, kindles, etc. >> >> >>Greetings, WebAIM: >> >>I spent about 15 minutes with Google in order to pull together the >>following resource set about EPub 3. It's less "Benetech-centric" >>than what has been posted so far. I'm a fan of standards, not a >>specific organizational approach, so that's where I always start. >> >>I hope many will find this collection useful. >> >>Links are below my name. Numbering is for tracking, rather than to >>denote prioritization. >> >>If I've missed anything, I hope others will contribute. >> >>Jennifer >> >> >>1. Book by Matt Garrish from O'Reilly Media: >>http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920025283.do >> >>2. Visit the site of the International Digital Publishing Forum >>(IDPF) which is the standards-making body for ePub: >>http://www.idpf.org >> >>3. Forums on the IDPF site: >>http://idpf.org/forums >> >>4. EPUB 3 Accessibility Guidelines >>http://idpf.org/accessibility/guidelines/ >> >>5. EPub Check, for validation: >>http://code.google.com/p/epubcheck/ >> >>6. A recent thread on the Access Technology in Higher Education >>email list about accessible ePub production: >>http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/2013-February/007170.html >> >>7. Creating accessible eBooks - RNIB: >>http://www.rnib.org.uk/professionals/solutionsforbusiness/publishing/publishertechnical/ebooksaccessible/Pages/accessible_ebook_creation.aspx >> >>Shortened: >>http://bit.ly/12zfaPG >> >> >>8. Content on SlideShare, related to the DAISY Consortium and some >>is ePub3, as well: >>http://www.slideshare.net/daisyconsortium > > > > *** WebAIM post 2: > >>Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:44:14 -0800 >>To: WebAIM Discussion List >> >>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Q: accessibility for ebooks, epubs, kindles, etc. > > > > >>Greetings, WebAIM: >> >>I thought I'd post four more items on this subject of ebooks/ePub, >>and then, I'll stop. >> >>But I think these are valuable additions to what I posted the other day. >> >>I hope those working on HTML5, CSS, etc. will especially take note >>of the summary of the recent W3C workshop and help to foster >>standards harmonization. >> >>Links below my name. >> >>Best, >>Jennifer >> >> >>eBooks: Great Expectations - A W3C Workshop on Electronic Books and >>Open Web Platform - 11-12 February 2013 >>http://www.w3.org/2012/08/electronic-books/rapportebook.html >> >>Rich multi-media and a web of devices is driving us to a world of >>standards - Tools of Change for Publishing >>http://toc.oreilly.com/2013/02/rich-multi-media-and-a-web-of-devices-is-driving-us-to-a-world-of-standards.html >> >>EPUB 3 demo/sample files wanted: >>http://t.co/mg4VgsyVUj >> >>This article focuses on a conference held in the UK >>ebooks and accessibility; "readable with eyes, ears and fingers" | >>atis4all | Scoop.it >>http://ebookscambridge.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/ebooks-and-accessibility-readable-with-eyes-ears-and-fingers/ > > > At 04:25 AM 3/16/2013, Greg Kraus wrote: >>I've been asked recently about the appropriateness of applying WCAG2 >>to e-texts. I would appreciate any input people have on this who are >>more intimately involved with e-text production than I am. What are >>the strengths and weaknesses of it? >> >>Thanks. >> >>Greg >> >>-- >>Greg Kraus >>University IT Accessibility Coordinator >>NC State University >>919.513.4087 >>greg_kraus@ncsu.edu > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > End of athen-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 13 > ****************************************** > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From hascherdss at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 07:04:30 2013 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility Statements In-Reply-To: References: <013201ce25a2$a25a9c60$e70fd520$@ahead.org> Message-ID: Love that last line, Dan!!! ;-) Have a good one! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Dan Comden wrote: > Here's one. Yes, I'm a dreamer: > > "We try to be accessible in our products and services. We understand that > accessibility is a process, not an end product. This means that we adhere > to current standards toward this goal and where we fall short, we respond > to customer concerns and complaints in a timely fashion. We won't treat > accessibility as a single disability issue. We consider accessibility a > core component of usability and will include testing for it as a primary > step of our product development cycle. We don't want our employees to make > false statements about the accessibility of our products and services, and > if they are caught fudging, fibbing, or flat out lying about accessibility, > we promise to publicly mock them before cutting them loose. We are just as > cynical about VPATs as you are and because of this, we promise to use them > as little as possible and instead refer to this mission statement. We'll > include language that addresses accessibility in all our contracts with > customers. We will steal the mice from our developers on a regular and > random basis." > > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: > >> Good afternoon all, had an interesting request. If you could set the >> accessibility mission statement for a company what would you say?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Ron **** >> >> ** ** >> -- >> > -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu > Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ > University of Washington UW Information Technology > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 10:45:17 2013 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility Statements In-Reply-To: References: <013201ce25a2$a25a9c60$e70fd520$@ahead.org> Message-ID: <008701ce265b$da21a300$8e64e900$@gmail.com> Great statement! Made me laugh out loud, and in deep appreciation because I know you stand behind your words, Dan. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant & Multi-Language Alt-Media Production The Foreign Type foreigntype@gmail.com Portland OR 480-984-0034 From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:05 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessibility Statements Love that last line, Dan!!! ;-) Have a good one! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Dan Comden wrote: Here's one. Yes, I'm a dreamer: "We try to be accessible in our products and services. We understand that accessibility is a process, not an end product. This means that we adhere to current standards toward this goal and where we fall short, we respond to customer concerns and complaints in a timely fashion. We won't treat accessibility as a single disability issue. We consider accessibility a core component of usability and will include testing for it as a primary step of our product development cycle. We don't want our employees to make false statements about the accessibility of our products and services, and if they are caught fudging, fibbing, or flat out lying about accessibility, we promise to publicly mock them before cutting them loose. We are just as cynical about VPATs as you are and because of this, we promise to use them as little as possible and instead refer to this mission statement. We'll include language that addresses accessibility in all our contracts with customers. We will steal the mice from our developers on a regular and random basis." On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: Good afternoon all, had an interesting request. If you could set the accessibility mission statement for a company what would you say? Ron -- -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ University of Washington UW Information Technology _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johumber at iupui.edu Thu Mar 21 10:53:47 2013 From: johumber at iupui.edu (Humbert, Joseph A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility Statements In-Reply-To: References: <013201ce25a2$a25a9c60$e70fd520$@ahead.org> Message-ID: <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B753031451C@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> The last line comes dangerously close to contradicting an earlier statement, "We won't treat accessibility as a single disability issue"...lol Joe Humbert, Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Specialist UITS Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University, Indianapolis and Bloomington 535 W Michigan St. IT214 E Indianapolis, IN 46202 Office Phone: (317) 274-4378 Cell Phone: (317) 644-6824 johumber@iupui.edu http://iuadapts.Indiana.edu/ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:05 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessibility Statements Love that last line, Dan!!! ;-) Have a good one! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Dan Comden > wrote: Here's one. Yes, I'm a dreamer: "We try to be accessible in our products and services. We understand that accessibility is a process, not an end product. This means that we adhere to current standards toward this goal and where we fall short, we respond to customer concerns and complaints in a timely fashion. We won't treat accessibility as a single disability issue. We consider accessibility a core component of usability and will include testing for it as a primary step of our product development cycle. We don't want our employees to make false statements about the accessibility of our products and services, and if they are caught fudging, fibbing, or flat out lying about accessibility, we promise to publicly mock them before cutting them loose. We are just as cynical about VPATs as you are and because of this, we promise to use them as little as possible and instead refer to this mission statement. We'll include language that addresses accessibility in all our contracts with customers. We will steal the mice from our developers on a regular and random basis." On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Ron Stewart > wrote: Good afternoon all, had an interesting request. If you could set the accessibility mission statement for a company what would you say? Ron -- -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ University of Washington UW Information Technology _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer.atsol at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 15:03:09 2013 From: hkramer.atsol at gmail.com (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] feedback on proposed UD for CMS class - focus on Drupal & Wordpress Message-ID: Hello All: (please excuse any cross-posts) As part of an effort to include more UD & accessibility content in curriculum, I'm working to develop an online class on the topic listed in the subject line above: Introduction to Universal Design for CMS: focus on Drupal & WordPress. I'm looking for feedback on what would be considered a target or appropriate audience. *Audience & Prerequisites* My thoughts were that a requirement for the class should be either experience with some type of CMS, preferably Drupal or Wordpress or experience coding directly with html & css. Those without one leg of this requirement would be advised to take a tutorial in the area they are unfamiliar with. (Those without either would only be allowed to take the class if they took tutorials in both areas, demonstrating that they were able to create at least basic sites either in both CMS and html/css). *Proposed Content for Class* - Accessibility Standards - Universal Design Overview - Universal Design vs. Accessibility - what's the difference, what's the overlap - Drupal theme engine - creating accessible themes - Testing for accessible Drupal themes - Accessibility features and tools in Drupal - Creating accessible themes in WordPress - Testing & choosing accessible plugins for Wordpress - Final project: using either Drupal or WordPress *I'd appreciate any feedback on suggestions on* - prerequisite skills (agree or disagree with what I have above). - Suggestions for different types of audiences to market to. - Suggested content - anything you think relevant Thank you, Howard -- Howard Kramer CO-PI - UDUC *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula (UDUC)* Lecturer, Cont. 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I so far have not found any accessibility information about the product, although the company has details of accessibility of their website available. http://governet.net/solutions/curricunet-software/ Any and all comments are appreciated, Teresa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu Fri Mar 22 05:12:19 2013 From: jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu (Julie Balassa) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Compass ESL? Message-ID: <631E5B79-47AC-4807-8CDD-2301EAF6E4F7@valenciacollege.edu> Morning. We're switching from the LOEP to Compass ESL. Sadly I know nothing about it yet. Anyone know whether this entrance test is accessible? jkb Valencia College jbalassa@valenciacollege.edu From greg_kraus at ncsu.edu Fri Mar 22 07:03:53 2013 From: greg_kraus at ncsu.edu (Greg Kraus) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Download Google Doc as Microsoft Office Document Tool Updated Message-ID: Hi All, For those of you struggling with Google Docs, this tool may be useful to you, especially JAWS users. It allows you to quickly download a Google doc as a Microsoft Office document. It doesn't let you collaborate live with the doc, but it lets you convert it to a more friendly format for reading. I recently updated it to handle some security issues with Docs coming over SSL and the way browsers handle it. Tool: http://accessibility.oit.ncsu.edu/tools/google/download-doc/ Blog Post: http://accessibility.oit.ncsu.edu/blog/2013/03/20/download-google-doc-as-microsoft-office-document-tool-updated/ Let me know if you have any questions. Greg -- Greg Kraus University IT Accessibility Coordinator NC State University 919.513.4087 greg_kraus@ncsu.edu From hkramer.atsol at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 07:55:54 2013 From: hkramer.atsol at gmail.com (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Please comment on WCAG-EM Website Accessibility Conformance Evaluation Methodology Message-ID: Hello All: I'm sending this out on the behalf of the WCAG Outreach and Education Working Group. Do web accessibility evaluations? Please comment on WCAG-EM methodology complete draft. http://bit.ly/wcag-em33 Please send any comments to the publicly-archived mailing list: public-wai-evaltf@w3.org ideally by Friday 22 March, although we can take them into April. -- Howard Kramer CO-PI - UDUC *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula (UDUC)* Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Sun Mar 24 07:09:24 2013 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Free EASI Webinar Balabolka the flexible E-reader. Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20130324070657.041af918@pop.gmail.com> Free EASI Webinar Balabolka the flexible E-reader. Presenter: Michael Micallef Dip IT, from the Foundation Information Technology Accessibility (FITA) Malta Tuesday 26 March 2013. time: 11 AM Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central, 2 Eastern DDAYLIGHT , 6 PM UTC and 7 PM Malta Michael will present a Webinar about the Balabolka E-reader software. In this Webinar you will learn: 1. What is Balabolka. 2. Download and installation. 3. Balabolka general use. 4. Saving and converting text to Audio. 5. Importing books. 6. Editing text using Balabolka. 7. Making bookmarks. 8. And some more features that this wonderful software possess. A question and answer session will be included as part of the webinar. You can register from http://easi.cc/clinic.htm Those who register will receive the archive in 2-3 days . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It's never too late to become what you might have been. George Eliot Once you choose hope, anything's possible. Christopher Reeve Norman Coombs norm.coombs@gmail.com Making Online Teaching Accessible: Inclusive Course Design for Students with Disabilities by Norman Coombs published by Jossey-Bass Oct 10,2010 http://www.josseybass.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470499044.html From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Mon Mar 25 09:32:59 2013 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: Compass ESL? In-Reply-To: <631E5B79-47AC-4807-8CDD-2301EAF6E4F7@valenciacollege.edu> References: <631E5B79-47AC-4807-8CDD-2301EAF6E4F7@valenciacollege.edu> Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A55E2F1@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> I have not reviewed the ESL portion of the test, but the rest of it is not accessible. JAWS will not read the questions. ZoomText control is lost once the test starts. At least this was my experience when I tested it last summer. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Balassa Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:12 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Compass ESL? Morning. We're switching from the LOEP to Compass ESL. Sadly I know nothing about it yet. Anyone know whether this entrance test is accessible? jkb Valencia College jbalassa@valenciacollege.edu_______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From tschwanke at wisc.edu Mon Mar 25 10:32:42 2013 From: tschwanke at wisc.edu (Todd Schwanke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] ZoomText - Issues with Reader with frames in Firefox? In-Reply-To: <7570b91c1b9f44.51508a28@wiscmail.wisc.edu> References: <76f0e2361bd375.5150692d@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <7660e6d61b8267.5150696a@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <7570c7571bfc65.515069a7@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <7790c6e71bbd58.515069e3@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <7790d3071bef95.51506a20@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <7570ead11ba795.51506a5d@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <76d0d01f1bf84e.51506a6e@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <76d090f41bab03.51508226@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <76d0af281b8db7.51508263@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <7710aa4a1bc8b0.515082a0@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <76608e301bff98.515082dd@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <76f088391be7aa.5150831a@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <76f0dbf81bed62.51508356@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <75b0bcfe1bc526.515088bc@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <7790d8ea1bc54b.515088f8@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <76e0c2f91bfe5e.51508935@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <76f0e9a81bda91.51508972@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <76e09d821bf4a6.515089ae@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <76e0eecc1be077.515089eb@wiscmail.wisc.edu> <7570b91c1b9f44.51508a28@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <7660f9a01b95d3.515043ea@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Has anyone experienced problems with the Reader function of ZoomText not reading within web pages that use frames/framesets when browsing with Firefox (previous versions through current Firefox 19.0.2)? I've had users experience this in both ZoomText 9 with WinXP and ZoomText 10.0.7 with Windows 7. The problem affects both reading when pointing at the text with the mouse and the App Reader tool. When the user turns on the App Reader it just shows the icon indicating it wants you to click on something to read, but clicking on the web page doesn't work. The same pages with frames read just fine with Reader when using IE instead. Also, if I have Firefox show only a selected frame from the frameset, then ZoomText doesn't have any problem reading the specified frame. Have tried Chrome, but it has some of the same Reader issues as Firefox. Notes: * Users cannot use IE in this instance because the site has other display issues with IE. * We are looking for a shorter term fix or workaround until the site can be redesigned without frames. thank you, Todd Schwanke UW-Madison From lcaid at mail.wtamu.edu Mon Mar 25 13:27:37 2013 From: lcaid at mail.wtamu.edu (Caid, Lisa M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] KIC Bookedge Walkup Scanner Accessibility? Message-ID: <5135B059728F9E4EA68E0C929F341F8902FB7A65@netExchDAGW01.wtacademic.wtamu.edu> Dear ATHEN, Our library wants to purchase a KIC Bookedge walkup scanner with touchscreen interface by Digital Library Systems Group at Image Access: http://www.imageaccess.com/dlsg/kic-bookedge.html. I've requested a VPAT from the vendor (not received yet). Can anyone speak to the accessibility of this product? Regarding the touchscreen, how easy/hard was it to implement a redundant set of controls that can be used by persons w/disabilities? As always, any help is appreciated! Sincerely, Lisa M. Caid Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology West Texas A&M University www.wtamu.edu/about/web-accessibility.aspx Office: 806-651-1241 lcaid@wtamu.edu TAC 206 Definitions. TAC 213 Definitions. If you need email content or attachments in alternate formats for accessibility, please send your contact information and the specifics of your request to accessibility@wtamu.edu. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu Mon Mar 25 14:26:14 2013 From: Kenneth.Elkind at umb.edu (Kenneth Elkind) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] limited accessibility with APA style six edition reference book Message-ID: <64368B1DFC2F5D4A86AFF5CEAFE2684C7DCA9F@SN2PRD0102MB104.prod.exchangelabs.com> I have a client that purchased a copy of the APA style six edition book. It was a locked PDF that it's pages are not visual, it is possible to use Jaws, or possibly PDF aloud from text help. It seems like they have put an extra layer that is white over the original text. It makes it impossible for anybody to use Zoomtext, virtual printer from Kurzweil 1000 or 3000. I'll be able to experiment with it later this week. 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Do you know of any WYSIWIG editors that work with ZoomText's reading functions for the purposes of editing text when used specifically in Firefox? Thank you, Todd Schwanke UW-Madison From Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu Tue Mar 26 12:31:54 2013 From: Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu (Kluesner, Bryon K) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Online University Message-ID: <56C15F5F7FD04146924173920805DF6105A1252F@UTCMBX1.utc.tennessee.edu> Hi all, My University is rolling out Online University, a new Content management System. I appreciate that it has a built in accessibility check and prompts for ALT tags. I also understand that it uses Java programming from a developer side, but have been told it is accessible to an individual who views the web page using screen readers. I was wondering if any other institutions are using OU (Online University) to host their web sites and thoughts about the program? Has anyone experienced any accessibility issues? Thanks, Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 Go MOCS! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Tue Mar 26 13:01:59 2013 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] listening systems for auditoriums Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA841A55E782@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Hello all, We are looking to provide assistive listening systems for our Performing Arts Center. We have a sound system in the auditorium already, so something that could utilize the current system would be great. I don't want to get a system that would require the speakers to use multiple microphones to work. Can anybody give some pointers as to what systems work well in this setting? 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