From jeano at uwm.edu Tue Sep 3 09:22:08 2013 From: jeano at uwm.edu (Jean M Salzer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] please resend to list - Peoplesoft and JAWS Message-ID: <1061299611.2131325.1378225328186.JavaMail.root@uwm.edu> There was so much chatter about mathtype - not sure if anyone saw my query regarding peoplesoft/oracle and JAWS. Message: 2 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:21:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Jean M Salzer < jeano@uwm.edu > Subject: [Athen] Accessible Instant Messaging Client? PeopleSoft/Oracle Access? To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Message-ID: < 782116435.802863.1377807667752.JavaMail.root@uwm.edu > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello, WE have a new blind staff member in our Graduate School who uses Jaws. The IT person for the school and the university have been trying to learn more about accessibility related to the following items. 1. PeopleSoft (student information) tool: I've spoken with students of mine who have said that PeopleSoft is workable to a certain point, then they just prefer a sighted person. If I'm not mistaken, we were able to get Jaws and PeopleSoft to play nice up to the point a person needed to search for a class or a grade or whatever. This is, of course, several versions ago. The staff member is fairly adept at Jaws and yet is unable to get into the screen past the login. She has tried the usual keystroke combinations and can't get anything going. I've advised the Grad School's tech person to contact the company, but in the meantime, thought I'd see what others had to say. Peace. Jean Salzer, Sr. Counselor BVI Program/Alternative Text Coordinator Accessibility Resource Center UW-Milwaukee 414-229-5660, Mitchell Hall B16 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg_kraus at ncsu.edu Tue Sep 3 09:57:39 2013 From: greg_kraus at ncsu.edu (Greg Kraus) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] please resend to list - Peoplesoft and JAWS In-Reply-To: <1061299611.2131325.1378225328186.JavaMail.root@uwm.edu> References: <1061299611.2131325.1378225328186.JavaMail.root@uwm.edu> Message-ID: Hi Jean, There are a couple of things that may help, but some of this will be out of your control. These recommendations are based on how we have implemented PeopleSoft, so I'm not 100% sure if it will apply in your context. 1. The version of PeopleTools (the environment all of the PeopleSoft Apps are written and delivered in) makes a big difference in accessibility support. I believe PeopleTools 8.51 was where they made some significant accessibility improvements. (I hesitate saying significant, because that implies I might be happy with it. It is significant in that it is better than the older version of PeopleTools.) Moving all of your apps to a newer version of PeopleTools is a major undertaking. You just need to ask your PeopleSoft developers what version of PeopleTools you are running. 2. It depends on if you are using PeopleTool's built-in UI components. When you use the default PeopleTools UI elements, they know for the most part how to also display themselves accessibly when a certain flag is set (see #3 below). If you are developing your own UI and are simply using the PeopleSoft business logic to do most of the work, like using it as an API, then you are responsible for providing accessibility support for your UI. 3. There is a user variable that you can set to always display the UI in the accessible view. It is in the user's preferences, although it is not always the easiest thing to find. I'm not sure how much of this language is customized for our version of PeopleSoft, but once I log in I need to go to "My Personalizations", then "Personalize General Options", then "Accessibility Features", and set it to "Use accessible layout mode". You will most likely need to log out and back in for the setting to take full effect. Depending on other circumstances and the type of disability the user may need someone else to make this setting for them initially. With #3, your PeopleSoft developers might not even know this feature exists. One problem we ran into was the user could make that setting in our "Portal", which is just the landing page you get to after logging in, but the setting didn't automatically propagate down to the individual apps. Our developers had to do something to make that happen. It wasn't hard, but it is something that can get overlooked when an underlying app gets updated. Again, we have a fairly robust implementation of PeopleSoft, so our environment may be a little different than yours. I hope some of this helps. If your developers need some help with the implementation of this I could put them in touch with some of our PeopleSoft developers. Greg -- Greg Kraus University IT Accessibility Coordinator NC State University 919.513.4087 gdkraus@ncsu.edu On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Jean M Salzer wrote: > There was so much chatter about mathtype - not sure if anyone saw my query > regarding peoplesoft/oracle and JAWS. > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:21:07 -0500 (CDT) > From: Jean M Salzer > Subject: [Athen] Accessible Instant Messaging Client? > PeopleSoft/Oracle Access? > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Message-ID: <782116435.802863.1377807667752.JavaMail.root@uwm.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Hello, > > > WE have a new blind staff member in our Graduate School who uses Jaws. The > IT person for the school and the university have been trying to learn more > about accessibility related to the following items. > > > 1. PeopleSoft (student information) tool: I've spoken with students of mine > who have said that PeopleSoft is workable to a certain point, then they just > prefer a sighted person. If I'm not mistaken, we were able to get Jaws and > PeopleSoft to play nice up to the point a person needed to search for a > class or a grade or whatever. This is, of course, several versions ago. > > > The staff member is fairly adept at Jaws and yet is unable to get into the > screen past the login. She has tried the usual keystroke combinations and > can't get anything going. I've advised the Grad School's tech person to > contact the company, but in the meantime, thought I'd see what others had to > say. > > > Peace. > > Jean Salzer, Sr. Counselor > BVI Program/Alternative Text Coordinator > Accessibility Resource Center > UW-Milwaukee > 414-229-5660, Mitchell Hall B16 > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > From greg_kraus at ncsu.edu Tue Sep 3 10:59:56 2013 From: greg_kraus at ncsu.edu (Greg Kraus) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] please resend to list - Peoplesoft and JAWS In-Reply-To: References: <1061299611.2131325.1378225328186.JavaMail.root@uwm.edu> Message-ID: The other thing I didn't mention is it can also depend on which version of the application you are using. This number is different than the version of PeopleTools you are running. I think some more accessibility features started showing up in version 9.1+. Honestly, keeping up with all of the versioning numbers with PeopleSoft products is a nightmare. You have the version of PeopleTools, then the version of the Applications, and not all applications have to be using the same version - some can be old and some can be new, all in the same environment. Every time I sit down with our PeopleSoft developers I feel like we have to have a 5 minute recap of what all versions we are on and what all of it means. Greg On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Greg Kraus wrote: > Hi Jean, > > There are a couple of things that may help, but some of this will be > out of your control. These recommendations are based on how we have > implemented PeopleSoft, so I'm not 100% sure if it will apply in your > context. > > 1. The version of PeopleTools (the environment all of the PeopleSoft > Apps are written and delivered in) makes a big difference in > accessibility support. I believe PeopleTools 8.51 was where they made > some significant accessibility improvements. (I hesitate saying > significant, because that implies I might be happy with it. It is > significant in that it is better than the older version of > PeopleTools.) Moving all of your apps to a newer version of > PeopleTools is a major undertaking. You just need to ask your > PeopleSoft developers what version of PeopleTools you are running. > > 2. It depends on if you are using PeopleTool's built-in UI components. > When you use the default PeopleTools UI elements, they know for the > most part how to also display themselves accessibly when a certain > flag is set (see #3 below). If you are developing your own UI and are > simply using the PeopleSoft business logic to do most of the work, > like using it as an API, then you are responsible for providing > accessibility support for your UI. > > 3. There is a user variable that you can set to always display the UI > in the accessible view. It is in the user's preferences, although it > is not always the easiest thing to find. I'm not sure how much of this > language is customized for our version of PeopleSoft, but once I log > in I need to go to "My Personalizations", then "Personalize General > Options", then "Accessibility Features", and set it to "Use > accessible layout mode". You will most likely need to log out and back > in for the setting to take full effect. Depending on other > circumstances and the type of disability the user may need someone > else to make this setting for them initially. > > With #3, your PeopleSoft developers might not even know this feature > exists. One problem we ran into was the user could make that setting > in our "Portal", which is just the landing page you get to after > logging in, but the setting didn't automatically propagate down to the > individual apps. Our developers had to do something to make that > happen. It wasn't hard, but it is something that can get overlooked > when an underlying app gets updated. > > Again, we have a fairly robust implementation of PeopleSoft, so our > environment may be a little different than yours. I hope some of this > helps. If your developers need some help with the implementation of > this I could put them in touch with some of our PeopleSoft developers. > > Greg > > -- > Greg Kraus > University IT Accessibility Coordinator > NC State University > 919.513.4087 > gdkraus@ncsu.edu > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Jean M Salzer wrote: >> There was so much chatter about mathtype - not sure if anyone saw my query >> regarding peoplesoft/oracle and JAWS. >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:21:07 -0500 (CDT) >> From: Jean M Salzer >> Subject: [Athen] Accessible Instant Messaging Client? >> PeopleSoft/Oracle Access? >> To: athen-list@u.washington.edu >> Message-ID: <782116435.802863.1377807667752.JavaMail.root@uwm.edu> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> >> Hello, >> >> >> WE have a new blind staff member in our Graduate School who uses Jaws. The >> IT person for the school and the university have been trying to learn more >> about accessibility related to the following items. >> >> >> 1. PeopleSoft (student information) tool: I've spoken with students of mine >> who have said that PeopleSoft is workable to a certain point, then they just >> prefer a sighted person. If I'm not mistaken, we were able to get Jaws and >> PeopleSoft to play nice up to the point a person needed to search for a >> class or a grade or whatever. This is, of course, several versions ago. >> >> >> The staff member is fairly adept at Jaws and yet is unable to get into the >> screen past the login. She has tried the usual keystroke combinations and >> can't get anything going. I've advised the Grad School's tech person to >> contact the company, but in the meantime, thought I'd see what others had to >> say. >> >> >> Peace. >> >> Jean Salzer, Sr. Counselor >> BVI Program/Alternative Text Coordinator >> Accessibility Resource Center >> UW-Milwaukee >> 414-229-5660, Mitchell Hall B16 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> From greg_kraus at ncsu.edu Wed Sep 4 02:38:52 2013 From: greg_kraus at ncsu.edu (Greg Kraus) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] please resend to list - Peoplesoft and JAWS In-Reply-To: References: <1061299611.2131325.1378225328186.JavaMail.root@uwm.edu> Message-ID: I actually had a meeting with our PeopleSoft developers yesterday about some development on our systems, and now I have one more piece of information that is important to the discussion for screen reader users. There is a fundamental problem with the way PeopleTools creates the UI that will always make it very difficult for screen readers users, and keyboard-only users to a degree, to fill out complex forms. The short version of the story is screen reader users should not use the tab key to navigate between form elements. They should always use their virtual cursor. The reason is PeopleTools assigns a specific tab order through the tabindex attribute to every single form element on the page. You cannot disable the tabindex. Usually the tabindex order gets set correctly, however, for longer forms or more complex forms, it is not uncommon for the tab order to become seemingly erratic. There actually is a logic to the order, but not a logic that is useful for humans. That's why I say screen reader users should never use the tab key to navigate between form elements, because there is no guarantee that pressing tab will take you to the next form element. Using the virtual cursor solves this problem. Greg On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Greg Kraus wrote: > The other thing I didn't mention is it can also depend on which > version of the application you are using. This number is different > than the version of PeopleTools you are running. I think some more > accessibility features started showing up in version 9.1+. > > Honestly, keeping up with all of the versioning numbers with > PeopleSoft products is a nightmare. You have the version of > PeopleTools, then the version of the Applications, and not all > applications have to be using the same version - some can be old and > some can be new, all in the same environment. Every time I sit down > with our PeopleSoft developers I feel like we have to have a 5 minute > recap of what all versions we are on and what all of it means. > > Greg > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Greg Kraus wrote: >> Hi Jean, >> >> There are a couple of things that may help, but some of this will be >> out of your control. These recommendations are based on how we have >> implemented PeopleSoft, so I'm not 100% sure if it will apply in your >> context. >> >> 1. The version of PeopleTools (the environment all of the PeopleSoft >> Apps are written and delivered in) makes a big difference in >> accessibility support. I believe PeopleTools 8.51 was where they made >> some significant accessibility improvements. (I hesitate saying >> significant, because that implies I might be happy with it. It is >> significant in that it is better than the older version of >> PeopleTools.) Moving all of your apps to a newer version of >> PeopleTools is a major undertaking. You just need to ask your >> PeopleSoft developers what version of PeopleTools you are running. >> >> 2. It depends on if you are using PeopleTool's built-in UI components. >> When you use the default PeopleTools UI elements, they know for the >> most part how to also display themselves accessibly when a certain >> flag is set (see #3 below). If you are developing your own UI and are >> simply using the PeopleSoft business logic to do most of the work, >> like using it as an API, then you are responsible for providing >> accessibility support for your UI. >> >> 3. There is a user variable that you can set to always display the UI >> in the accessible view. It is in the user's preferences, although it >> is not always the easiest thing to find. I'm not sure how much of this >> language is customized for our version of PeopleSoft, but once I log >> in I need to go to "My Personalizations", then "Personalize General >> Options", then "Accessibility Features", and set it to "Use >> accessible layout mode". You will most likely need to log out and back >> in for the setting to take full effect. Depending on other >> circumstances and the type of disability the user may need someone >> else to make this setting for them initially. >> >> With #3, your PeopleSoft developers might not even know this feature >> exists. One problem we ran into was the user could make that setting >> in our "Portal", which is just the landing page you get to after >> logging in, but the setting didn't automatically propagate down to the >> individual apps. Our developers had to do something to make that >> happen. It wasn't hard, but it is something that can get overlooked >> when an underlying app gets updated. >> >> Again, we have a fairly robust implementation of PeopleSoft, so our >> environment may be a little different than yours. I hope some of this >> helps. If your developers need some help with the implementation of >> this I could put them in touch with some of our PeopleSoft developers. >> >> Greg >> >> -- >> Greg Kraus >> University IT Accessibility Coordinator >> NC State University >> 919.513.4087 >> gdkraus@ncsu.edu >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Jean M Salzer wrote: >>> There was so much chatter about mathtype - not sure if anyone saw my query >>> regarding peoplesoft/oracle and JAWS. >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:21:07 -0500 (CDT) >>> From: Jean M Salzer >>> Subject: [Athen] Accessible Instant Messaging Client? >>> PeopleSoft/Oracle Access? >>> To: athen-list@u.washington.edu >>> Message-ID: <782116435.802863.1377807667752.JavaMail.root@uwm.edu> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> >>> WE have a new blind staff member in our Graduate School who uses Jaws. The >>> IT person for the school and the university have been trying to learn more >>> about accessibility related to the following items. >>> >>> >>> 1. PeopleSoft (student information) tool: I've spoken with students of mine >>> who have said that PeopleSoft is workable to a certain point, then they just >>> prefer a sighted person. If I'm not mistaken, we were able to get Jaws and >>> PeopleSoft to play nice up to the point a person needed to search for a >>> class or a grade or whatever. This is, of course, several versions ago. >>> >>> >>> The staff member is fairly adept at Jaws and yet is unable to get into the >>> screen past the login. She has tried the usual keystroke combinations and >>> can't get anything going. I've advised the Grad School's tech person to >>> contact the company, but in the meantime, thought I'd see what others had to >>> say. >>> >>> >>> Peace. >>> >>> Jean Salzer, Sr. Counselor >>> BVI Program/Alternative Text Coordinator >>> Accessibility Resource Center >>> UW-Milwaukee >>> 414-229-5660, Mitchell Hall B16 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Wed Sep 4 11:30:41 2013 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (Normajean.Brand) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: help! In-Reply-To: References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A538078AEED32EB8@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <18AB6E837CD5444FAECD90FCCDBFF545942AD592@sy-facmbx01.ad.hccs.edu> Hi Julie, I found your textbook at ATN. You can be a member of ATN http://www.accesstext.org/ Basic Membership is FREE and includes requesting files and permissions from publishers. https://www.accesstext.org/membership1_atn20.php Our college will not budget for the premium access level but I've been successful with the basic version for about 3 years now. :) Hope this helps! NJ NJ Brand, ATAC Houston Community College-Northwest ADA Technician Technology and Instructional Computing Room RC13 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. Houston TX 77043 VM/Office: 713.718.5604 FAX: 713.718.5430 Email: normajean.brand@hccs.edu http://northwest.hccs.edu The information in this email is confidential and may contain information that is privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s); access to anyone else is unauthorized. If you received this message in error, do not review, disseminate, distribute or copy it. Please notify the sender by reply email immediately that you received the message in error and then delete the message and any attachments in its entirety. From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Balassa Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 11:45 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] RE: help! No Susan, I haven't because I don't think we have funds to purchase it. jkb Please note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure. From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 12:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] RE: help! Did you check with AMAC to see if they already have it? Or the ATPC? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu Wed Sep 4 11:43:14 2013 From: jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu (Julie Balassa) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: help! In-Reply-To: <18AB6E837CD5444FAECD90FCCDBFF545942AD592@sy-facmbx01.ad.hccs.edu> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A538078AEED32EB8@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <18AB6E837CD5444FAECD90FCCDBFF545942AD592@sy-facmbx01.ad.hccs.edu> Message-ID: Thank you. We are members of ATN, in fact I've sat on the advisory committee since its inception, but I believe those are the PDF files, which don't include accessible math. I was looking for either a DAISY math or HTML/MathML version. jkb On Sep 4, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Normajean.Brand > wrote: Hi Julie, I found your textbook at ATN. You can be a member of ATN http://www.accesstext.org/ Basic Membership is FREE and includes requesting files and permissions from publishers.https://www.accesstext.org/membership1_atn20.php Our college will not budget for the premium access level but I?ve been successful with the basic version for about 3 years now. :) Hope this helps! NJ NJ Brand, ATAC Houston Community College-Northwest ADA Technician Technology and Instructional Computing Room RC13 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. Houston TX 77043 VM/Office: 713.718.5604 FAX: 713.718.5430 Email: normajean.brand@hccs.edu http://northwest.hccs.edu The information in this email is confidential and may contain information that is privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s); access to anyone else is unauthorized. If you received this message in error, do not review, disseminate, distribute or copy it. Please notify the sender by reply email immediately that you received the message in error and then delete the message and any attachments in its entirety. From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Balassa Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 11:45 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] RE: help! No Susan, I haven?t because I don?t think we have funds to purchase it. jkb Please note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure. From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 12:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] RE: help! Did you check with AMAC to see if they already have it? Or the ATPC? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Wed Sep 4 12:28:01 2013 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (Normajean.Brand) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: help! In-Reply-To: References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A538078AEED32EB8@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <18AB6E837CD5444FAECD90FCCDBFF545942AD592@sy-facmbx01.ad.hccs.edu> Message-ID: <18AB6E837CD5444FAECD90FCCDBFF545942AD66F@sy-facmbx01.ad.hccs.edu> Ahhhhh... yep. Sorry. I was excited that I found it for one of our students who can use PDF. :/ From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Balassa Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 1:43 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] RE: help! Thank you. We are members of ATN, in fact I've sat on the advisory committee since its inception, but I believe those are the PDF files, which don't include accessible math. I was looking for either a DAISY math or HTML/MathML version. jkb On Sep 4, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Normajean.Brand > wrote: Hi Julie, I found your textbook at ATN. You can be a member of ATN http://www.accesstext.org/ Basic Membership is FREE and includes requesting files and permissions from publishers.https://www.accesstext.org/membership1_atn20.php Our college will not budget for the premium access level but I've been successful with the basic version for about 3 years now. :) Hope this helps! NJ NJ Brand, ATAC Houston Community College-Northwest ADA Technician Technology and Instructional Computing Room RC13 1010 W. Sam Houston Pkwy N. Houston TX 77043 VM/Office: 713.718.5604 FAX: 713.718.5430 Email: normajean.brand@hccs.edu http://northwest.hccs.edu The information in this email is confidential and may contain information that is privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s); access to anyone else is unauthorized. If you received this message in error, do not review, disseminate, distribute or copy it. Please notify the sender by reply email immediately that you received the message in error and then delete the message and any attachments in its entirety. From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Balassa Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 11:45 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] RE: help! No Susan, I haven't because I don't think we have funds to purchase it. jkb Please note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure. From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 12:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] RE: help! Did you check with AMAC to see if they already have it? Or the ATPC? 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You can register from the EASI Webinar Update page: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm Norm Norm Coombs CEO EASI http://easi.cc Helen Keller wrote, ?Many persons have the wrong idea about what constitutes true happiness. It is not attained through self-gratification, but through fidelity to a worthy purpose.? Jesus said, ?The Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve? (Mk 10:45 NKJV). From JAsuncion at dawsoncollege.qc.ca Fri Sep 6 07:20:17 2013 From: JAsuncion at dawsoncollege.qc.ca (Jennison Asuncion) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] suggestions re linear algebra for a blind student Message-ID: Hi there, What technology have you been using to support Braille-using blind students taking linear algebra courses (manipulating matrices, vectors, linear equations, eigenvalues and eigen vectors)? A colleague working at a university has asked. Showing my age, I used Braille and a taylor slate back in the early 90s when I did linear algebra. Any pointers to technology (or non-technology) solutions folks have been using successfully would be appreciated. Jennison Jennison Mark Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/jennison Accessibility Camp Toronto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeP5Kl4GDgA From hkramer at colorado.edu Fri Sep 6 10:03:27 2013 From: hkramer at colorado.edu (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] Early Registration Discount for Accessing Higher Ground Ends Today Message-ID: Dear Colleagues: The early registration discount for AHG ends today (September 6) at midnight, Mountain time. Prices will go up about 10% - 12% (depending on package) starting tomorrow. *Highlights* * * *Keynote: *Teaching Universal Design - the Dundee Approach, Dr. Sloan, Principal User Experience Engineer, The Paciello Group* * *(titles link to session description) * * * ? Mobile Accessibility Update, Kathy Wahlbin, Interactive Accessibility**? Processing Publisher PDFs: How to Go from PDF to E-text to Audio, Gaeir Dietrich, HTCTU ? Accessible eBooks Using Adobe InDesign , Ken Petri & Cynthia Gray, Ohio State University ? Remote CART and VRI: What We Learned On the Road to Success , Dean Brusnighan, Purdue University ? Usability and Accessibility CSS Gotchas, Dennis Lembree, PayPal ? IBM?s WCAG 2.0 web-costing model - an assessment and planning tool for organizations moving to WCAG compliance, Dan Shire, IBM Canada. ? Seeking a Unified Reading Environment for All Print Disabilities in iOS , Kevin Price, University of Illinois at Chicago View complete agenda (over 60 topics & sessions related to AT, accessibility & Universal Design) Register now to save . -- Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kcahill at MIT.EDU Mon Sep 9 11:36:30 2013 From: kcahill at MIT.EDU (Kathleen Cahill) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] Math DAISY vendors or workflow Message-ID: <4599527AD714FA42B45CEDFE81CA397D0FF47EC1@OC11expo28.exchange.mit.edu> Hi ATHEN friends, We have a student who is in need of a few textbooks converted to Math DAISY format. We originally had scoped out a vendor but due to our timeline and their busy schedule, it may not work out. Have people sent Math DAISY conversion jobs to any vendors they would recommend? And if you do the conversions, in house, could you describe the workflow (we would be starting with scanned images of book pages in PDF) that it takes to get it to Math DAISY format? If you have a document, that would also be helpful. And lastly, what types of extra staffing or help (along with job descriptions) did you have to add to get these conversions done? Many thanks, Kathy Kathleen Cahill Assistive Technology Specialist MIT ATIC (Assistive Tech. Info. Center) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paire at temple.edu Tue Sep 10 10:56:39 2013 From: paire at temple.edu (Paul E. Paire) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] AHG presentation Message-ID: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C778D5C557@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> Howard, For the Accessing Higher Ground conference I noted that you need handouts and papers by Oct 1st (if memory serves). Do you need a copy of the presentation prior to the event as well, or just handouts? Thanks, -Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Tue Sep 10 10:59:49 2013 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: AHG presentation In-Reply-To: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C778D5C557@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> References: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C778D5C557@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0F3CD5DF@exmbt04.asurite.ad.asu.edu> And to bounce off Paul's question, is a copy of the presentation itself acceptable in lieu of a paper about the presentation? Thanks, Teresa Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Paul E. Paire Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:57 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] AHG presentation Howard, For the Accessing Higher Ground conference I noted that you need handouts and papers by Oct 1st (if memory serves). Do you need a copy of the presentation prior to the event as well, or just handouts? Thanks, -Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Paire Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:57 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] AHG presentation Howard, For the Accessing Higher Ground conference I noted that you need handouts and papers by Oct 1st (if memory serves). Do you need a copy of the presentation prior to the event as well, or just handouts? Thanks, -Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Teresa Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Paul E. Paire Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:57 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] AHG presentation Howard, For the Accessing Higher Ground conference I noted that you need handouts and papers by Oct 1st (if memory serves). Do you need a copy of the presentation prior to the event as well, or just handouts? Thanks, -Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tft at uw.edu Tue Sep 10 14:01:48 2013 From: tft at uw.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Google's Online Course on Web Accessibility Message-ID: Google is offering an online course on web accessibility September 17-30. I'm forwarding the following announcement at the request of T.V. Raman of Google. Begin forwarded message: The road to accessible Web Applications has been a long and arduous one -- Rich Schwertfeger and I originally started dreaming ARIA in April 2003 (from memory)! Thanks to the unflagging work of WAI-PF, ARIA is now a reality in modern browsers and screenreaders; our next challenge is to make this technology easily accessible to mainstream Web developers. As a small step toward that end, I have been working with my colleagues from Google's Course Builder team to create an online course on Web Accessibility that is designed for mainstream Web Developers. We just opened registration for this online course "Introduction to Web Accessibility" which focuses on accessibility for visually impaired users. The course is a starting point for developers to learn to inspect the accessibility of their websites using Google Chrome extensions, and pick up tips and tricks to make their websites more accessible. The course runs from September 17-30th and registration is now open. Please share this sign-up link with all your Web Developer friends: https://webaccessibility.withgoogle.com/preview. You can also watch demos and learn more about the course on our Google Developers Live episode (https://developers.google.com/live/shows/919837902) featuring members of our accessibility team (myself included) in conversation with Vint Cerf, Google?s VP & Chief Internet Evangelist. From norm.coombs at gmail.com Tue Sep 10 22:15:19 2013 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] Webinar 4-part Series on Accessibility Features of MS Office 2013 Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20130910221142.03efdb28@pop.gmail.com> EASI Fee-based 4-part Series:Introduction to Office 2013 Presenter: Karen McCall, M.Ed. Microsoft MVP 2010 for Word Canadian delegate to the ISO/TC 171 committee Member of PDF/UA Universal Access Working Group Dates: September 17, October 1, 8 and 15 Times: 11 Pacific, Noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 PM Eastern Are you thinking of upgrading to Microsoft Office 2013? Have you heard about the new features, Signing into Office, changes to opening and saving documents or adding Alt Text to images? Do you use Office from the keyboard or with adaptive technology? And what the heck is Office 365? This series of four webinars will answer most of these questions and more! Week 1 ? September 17: Getting Started This week we?ll look at signing into Office, what that means, how to change accounts, SkyDrive and some of the settings you should consider changing to work with Microsoft Word more effectively. This week we?ll also discuss the new items in the File/Backstage area and how they impact the way you work and use Microsoft Word and Office. Topics include saving and opening documents, the new location of custom templates and how to use a template. Week 2: October 1: Performing Tasks Differently There are some new things you can do with or add to Word documents including inserting video and Flash content, adding a screen image through the Insert Ribbon and adding online pictures instead of Clip Art. We?ll also look at a new tool, PDF Reflow, and how useful it might be if you need access to untagged PDF documents. Although Reading Layout isn?t accessible for people using screen reading or Text-to-Speech tools, there are some capabilities in this view that might be helpful for those using tablet computers and gestures. Week 3: October 8: 2013 Outlook, ?PowerPoint and OneNote PowerPoint and Outlook have some changes that might affect the way you create and present content. OneNote has some nifty tools and for those of you who aren?t familiar with this application, this session will provide you with the highlights of the tools available. If time permits, Excel will be covered. Week 4: October 15: Office 365 and the Office Web Apps There has been much discussion and much more confusion about Office 365, what it is, how it works and how accessible it is. This session is an opportunity to get some answers! If you need answers to specific questions, send them in advance of the webinars so that your answers can be researched and added to the content! EASI Annual Members take this link to go to the member-only passworded page and register free http://easi.cc/member/index.htm Non-members register online and make payment ($225) at the link below.Select EASI Web conferences and use the date, September 17 and pay by credit card, check or PO. https://www.secure.servsite.com/easi/enrollment/enrollment_pal.shtml NOTE: Scholarships are available for this series: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm Norm Coombs CEO EASI http://easi.cc Helen Keller wrote, ?Many persons have the wrong idea about what constitutes true happiness. It is not attained through self-gratification, but through fidelity to a worthy purpose.? Jesus said, ?The Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve? (Mk 10:45 NKJV). From jsuttondc at gmail.com Wed Sep 11 13:20:41 2013 From: jsuttondc at gmail.com (Jennifer Sutton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Google's Online Course on Web Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20130911131812.05e9a328@gmail.com> Greetings ATHEN-ites: I thought some of you might be interested in this Google Plus post; I'm cross-posting it from the WebAIM list: https://plus.google.com/100697095765158521187/posts/gGzjCGdTm8M From hirschma at uwm.edu Wed Sep 11 14:52:08 2013 From: hirschma at uwm.edu (hirschma@uwm.edu) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] TechSpec Assistive Technology & Accessible Design Training Program - RSA stipends available - taking applications now! In-Reply-To: <1066825153.25630792.1378936009888.JavaMail.root@uwm.edu> Message-ID: <1775570109.25631489.1378936328929.JavaMail.root@uwm.edu> Are you interested in learning more about Assistive Technology & Accessible Design? Do you serve VR consumers? You may be eligible for a stipend . . . The TechSpec Assistive Technology & Accessible Design Training Program is accepting 3 more students for the upcoming Spring 2014 semester for the newest TechSpec Cohort 3. The 2013 updated TechSpec website is now available at http://techspec.r2d2.uwm.edu/ . A brochure and application materials for this RSA funded program are available on the website. All application materials are due no later than November 26, 2013 . Aura M. Hirschman, MS, CRC Outreach and Training Coordinator R2D2 Center, Enderis Hall, Room 135 University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee P.O. Box 413 Milwaukee, WI 53211-0413 (414) 229-1139 Fax (414) 229-6843 TTY (414) 229-5628 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Take care, Sean Sent from my iPad From johumber at iu.edu Wed Sep 18 07:19:48 2013 From: johumber at iu.edu (Humbert, Joseph A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] Proposed ATHEN Business Plan to Add New Membership Benefits Message-ID: <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B7555281561@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> Hi All, Attached is a proposed business plan for ATHEN. The purpose and reason for this plan is to increase the value of ATHEN membership for current and new members. The majority of the changes focus on increasing membership dues to provide financial support for a range of new membership benefits. The most significant of these benefits will be a totally upgraded and redesigned ATHEN website. Please take time to review the proposal and send any questions you may have to me. The membership needs a two-thirds vote of members in good standing to ratify the proposal. 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Have any other Universities use this type of product before. Do the benefits outweigh the cost? I am looking for any feedback on this topic. Thank you, Andrea Engle Academic Accommodation Specialist Office of Academic Access The University of Toledo 2801 W. Bancroft St. MS#342 Toledo, OH 43606-3390 Phone: 419-530-4981 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danc at uw.edu Fri Sep 20 09:48:17 2013 From: danc at uw.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] The importance of captioning Message-ID: A powerful short video demonstrates the importance of accessible video materials: *http://youtu.be/MCm1Emtqo_Q* Kerri Holferty directs the DS program at Whatcom Community College in Bellingham, Washington. 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[image: The Ohio State University] Ken Petri, Program Director Web Accessibility Center, ADA Coordinator's Office and Office for Disability Services 102D Pomerene Hall | 1760 Neil Ave. Columbus, OH 43210 614-292-1760 Office | 614-218-1499 Mobile | 614-292-4190 Fax petri.1@osu.edu wac.osu.edu On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Dan Comden wrote: > A powerful short video demonstrates the importance of accessible video > materials: > *http://youtu.be/MCm1Emtqo_Q* > > Kerri Holferty directs the DS program at Whatcom Community College in > Bellingham, Washington. Thanks to her and her willingness to share. > > -- > -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu > Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ > University of Washington UW Information Technology > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shahidak at echo.rutgers.edu Mon Sep 23 07:30:01 2013 From: shahidak at echo.rutgers.edu (Shahida Khaliq) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] The importance of captioning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Excellent. A chance to "walk in their shoes", so to speak (or sign, or caption). Best Regards Shahida Khaliq Program Coordinator II for Alternate Format Text & Adaptive Tech. Office of Disability Services Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey Lucy Stone Hall, Livingston Campus 54 Joyce Kilmer Ave, Suite A145 Piscataway, New Jersey 08854 Phone # (848) 445-6800 Fax # (732) 445-3388 Office Hours Monday- Friday 8:30am-5:00pm Website: https://ods.rutgers.edu Making a Key Difference From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ken Petri Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:42 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] The importance of captioning It's excellent. But please can we never ever shoot video with a vertical orientation? [The Ohio State University] Ken Petri, Program Director Web Accessibility Center, ADA Coordinator's Office and Office for Disability Services 102D Pomerene Hall | 1760 Neil Ave. Columbus, OH 43210 614-292-1760 Office | 614-218-1499 Mobile | 614-292-4190 Fax petri.1@osu.edu wac.osu.edu On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Dan Comden > wrote: A powerful short video demonstrates the importance of accessible video materials: http://youtu.be/MCm1Emtqo_Q Kerri Holferty directs the DS program at Whatcom Community College in Bellingham, Washington. Thanks to her and her willingness to share. -- -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ University of Washington UW Information Technology _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Sean Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University From skeegan at stanford.edu Mon Sep 23 15:23:25 2013 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer Message-ID: <0B455C3A-E80C-4686-A6B7-00CD644CF20C@stanford.edu> Hello all, I am curious if anyone else has been having the following issues with JAWS and Internet Explorer+MathPlayer: When attempting to view an HTML document that contains math on the local computer, JAWS will only read the address bar and any open tabs. Further, when attempting to get into the main browser window, IE throws a notification saying that "The webpage is not responding" and then provides a button to "Recover webpage." Pressing the Recover Webpage button or trying to refresh the document do nothing but reload the webpage. Once this happens, we get a few seconds of functionality before the error notification happens again. We are running JAWS 13 and JAWS 14 on two different machines with IE 9 and MathPlayer 3.0. The documents were created in both MathType 6.8 and 6.9 using the Publish to MathPage function. We are using the IE behavior export option. Has anyone else encountered these issues with JAWS, IE 9, and MathPlayer? Take care, Sean From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Mon Sep 23 15:45:37 2013 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer In-Reply-To: <0B455C3A-E80C-4686-A6B7-00CD644CF20C@stanford.edu> References: <0B455C3A-E80C-4686-A6B7-00CD644CF20C@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0F3FE505@exmbt02.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Sean, I can confirm the behavior with JAWS 12.0 as well, but a caveat: after I saw the behavior I noticed that I had not updated MathPlayer to the new version. I performed the update, restarted IE, and re-opened the file, and it read the text of the file but completely ignored all of the MathType content. Teresa Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:23 PM To: Alternate Media; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer Hello all, I am curious if anyone else has been having the following issues with JAWS and Internet Explorer+MathPlayer: When attempting to view an HTML document that contains math on the local computer, JAWS will only read the address bar and any open tabs. Further, when attempting to get into the main browser window, IE throws a notification saying that "The webpage is not responding" and then provides a button to "Recover webpage." Pressing the Recover Webpage button or trying to refresh the document do nothing but reload the webpage. Once this happens, we get a few seconds of functionality before the error notification happens again. We are running JAWS 13 and JAWS 14 on two different machines with IE 9 and MathPlayer 3.0. The documents were created in both MathType 6.8 and 6.9 using the Publish to MathPage function. We are using the IE behavior export option. Has anyone else encountered these issues with JAWS, IE 9, and MathPlayer? Take care, Sean_______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu Mon Sep 23 19:20:59 2013 From: jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu (Julie Balassa) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer In-Reply-To: <0B455C3A-E80C-4686-A6B7-00CD644CF20C@stanford.edu> References: <0B455C3A-E80C-4686-A6B7-00CD644CF20C@stanford.edu> Message-ID: Sean, I had to downgrade to MathType 6.7 and MathPlayer 2.2. Publishing to a mathpage using MathType 6.8 and 6.9 produced all kinds of missing math, even though it was all there in Word, and the consistent error message that the webpage is not responding and the option to recover the web page, which did nothing. It's true I'm using Word 2007 as it's more compatible with some alt format production processes but I think the issue is really with MathType versions newer than 6.7. I've just been having a discussion with Pearson about a math e-book they say is accessible but Jaws does not read several symbols. They argue that it's because I'm using MathPlayer 2.2 with IE 9 instead of v.3 as v.2 was supposedly made for IE 8 and earlier but I know that's not the issue. I think the issue is that DESSCI produces products they have not really tested with Jaws and to make matters worse, you have to argue with them to prove that the newer products don't work. Once you manage to convince them, they tell you you're the only one who has this issue and promise to send it to their programmers and you never hear another thing. Try creating the documents with MathType 6.7 and reading them with Jaws and Mathplayer 2.2 and I'll be surprised if your issues are not resolved. By the way, I'm on leave from Valencia till the end of November and submit these comments as an alt media specialist, not as a rep of Valencia College. jkb -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 6:28 PM To: Alternate Media; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer Hello all, I am curious if anyone else has been having the following issues with JAWS and Internet Explorer+MathPlayer: When attempting to view an HTML document that contains math on the local computer, JAWS will only read the address bar and any open tabs. Further, when attempting to get into the main browser window, IE throws a notification saying that "The webpage is not responding" and then provides a button to "Recover webpage." Pressing the Recover Webpage button or trying to refresh the document do nothing but reload the webpage. Once this happens, we get a few seconds of functionality before the error notification happens again. We are running JAWS 13 and JAWS 14 on two different machines with IE 9 and MathPlayer 3.0. The documents were created in both MathType 6.8 and 6.9 using the Publish to MathPage function. We are using the IE behavior export option. Has anyone else encountered these issues with JAWS, IE 9, and MathPlayer? Take care, Sean_______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Tue Sep 24 07:06:30 2013 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Director of Academic Resource Center & Disability Services In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA8452324336@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Hey all, Please excuse the cross posting and the late notice. If you know anybody who may be interested, please pass it along. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: Paula Warren Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 2:42 PM To: all employees Subject: Director of Academic Resource Center & Disability Services Position Title: DIRECTOR OF ACADEMIC RESOURCE CENTER & DISABILITY SERVICES Department/Division: ARC / ENROLLMENT MANAGEMENT Closing Date: SEPTEMBER 27, 2013 (CLOSE OF BUSINESS - 5:00 P.M.) How to Apply: COMPLETE AN ON-LINE APPLICATION AT WWW.KCKCC.EDU [Description: Description: Description: KCKCC-New-Logo(Final)] Paula Warren Professional Assistant Human Resources Department 7250 State Avenue Kansas City KS 66112 pwarren@kckcc.edu 913-288-7646 913-288-7628 (fax) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What have been the results? And what playback equipment (ReadHear, EasyReader) has been tested with the output? I'm thinking that if some of the problems are stemming from flaws in the more recent versions of MathType, then it won't really matter if the end user is accessing a DTB or a MathPage, the same types of problems will occur. Any confirmation or evidence of this? Thanks, Teresa Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Balassa Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:21 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer Sean, I had to downgrade to MathType 6.7 and MathPlayer 2.2. Publishing to a mathpage using MathType 6.8 and 6.9 produced all kinds of missing math, even though it was all there in Word, and the consistent error message that the webpage is not responding and the option to recover the web page, which did nothing. It's true I'm using Word 2007 as it's more compatible with some alt format production processes but I think the issue is really with MathType versions newer than 6.7. I've just been having a discussion with Pearson about a math e-book they say is accessible but Jaws does not read several symbols. They argue that it's because I'm using MathPlayer 2.2 with IE 9 instead of v.3 as v.2 was supposedly made for IE 8 and earlier but I know that's not the issue. I think the issue is that DESSCI produces products they have not really tested with Jaws and to make matters worse, you have to argue with them to prove that the newer products don't work. Once you manage to convince them, they tell you you're the only one who has this issue and promise to send it to their programmers and you never hear another thing. Try creating the documents with MathType 6.7 and reading them with Jaws and Mathplayer 2.2 and I'll be surprised if your issues are not resolved. By the way, I'm on leave from Valencia till the end of November and submit these comments as an alt media specialist, not as a rep of Valencia College. jkb -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 6:28 PM To: Alternate Media; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer Hello all, I am curious if anyone else has been having the following issues with JAWS and Internet Explorer+MathPlayer: When attempting to view an HTML document that contains math on the local computer, JAWS will only read the address bar and any open tabs. Further, when attempting to get into the main browser window, IE throws a notification saying that "The webpage is not responding" and then provides a button to "Recover webpage." Pressing the Recover Webpage button or trying to refresh the document do nothing but reload the webpage. Once this happens, we get a few seconds of functionality before the error notification happens again. We are running JAWS 13 and JAWS 14 on two different machines with IE 9 and MathPlayer 3.0. The documents were created in both MathType 6.8 and 6.9 using the Publish to MathPage function. We are using the IE behavior export option. Has anyone else encountered these issues with JAWS, IE 9, and MathPlayer? Take care, Sean_______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From gdietrich at htctu.net Tue Sep 24 17:13:59 2013 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:20 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Alt Media Specialist Position Message-ID: <5827BF4C89254B2C9AC3F87772602BA8@htctu.fhda.edu> Subject: FW: Alt Media Specialist Position From: Judy Henmi Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:47 AM To: Ardith Lynch (alynch@saddleback.edu); Celeste Ryan (cryan@coastline.edu); Chad Bowman (cbowman@gwc.cccd.edu); Elyse Chaplin (Chaplin_Elyse@sac.edu); Grace Hanson (ghanson@mtsac.edu); Jennifer McLeod (jmcleod@citruscollege.edu); Kim Bartlett (kbartlett@cypresscollege.edu); Lucinda Aborn (laborn@Cerritos.edu); Lucy Carr-Rollitt (Carr_Rollitt_Lucy@sccollege.edu); Maria Aguilar (aguilar_maria@sac.edu); Mark Matsui (MMatsui@riohondo.edu); Olivia Martinez (omartinez@occ.cccd.edu); Paul McKinley (PMCKINLEY@fullcoll.edu) Subject: Alt Media Specialist Position Irvine Valley College has posted a job announcement for an Assistive Technology Assistant, which encompasses the responsibilities of an Alt Media Specialist. Would you please forward this information to anyone you know that may be interested in this position that will close on 10/16/13. https://jobs.socccd.edu/postings/2473 Thank you! Judy Henmi DSPS Counselor Irvine Valley College (949) 451-5368 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsuttondc at gmail.com Wed Sep 25 11:52:17 2013 From: jsuttondc at gmail.com (Jennifer Sutton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:20 2018 Subject: [Athen] Some news from Pearson Higher Education | NFB Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20130925115132.0797f0d0@gmail.com> In case any Athenites are interested in Pearson's activities . . . Some news from Pearson Higher Education | NFB https://nfb.org/blog/atblog/some-news-pearson-higher-education From hkramer at colorado.edu Wed Sep 25 12:28:03 2013 From: hkramer at colorado.edu (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:20 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help us pick the sessions for the Virtual Track - Accessing Higher Ground 2013 Message-ID: November 4 - 8, 2013 Accessing Higher Ground: Accessible Media, Web & Technology Conference Vote for the Sessions to Include in the Virtual Conference AHG will be streaming 1 live track of sessions during the pre-conference (November 4-5) and 2 tracks of sessions during the main conference (Nov. 6-8). Help us choose the agenda by voting for your preferred sessions. The content for the Virtual event will be determined by the results of this survey. Highlight of Session Choices (select title links for more information) Integrating UD into University Curriculum, Dr. David Sloan, TPG, E.A. Draffan, U. of Southhampton, UK, et al. Lab:Accessible eBooks Using Adobe InDesign, Ken Petri & Cynthia Gray, Ohio State University eText - an Accessible, Interactive, Multimedia-capable, Electronic Course Content Delivery Platform , Yury Borukhovich, eText@illinois Lab:Evaluating Web Accessibility, Jonathan Whiting, WebAIM The Future of Curricular Access in Postsecondary Education, Ron Stewart, AHEAD Accessibility Through Responsive Design ,Justin Stockton, Devis Lab:Mobile Accessibility Update, Kathy Wahlbin, Interactive Accessibility View full list of sessions Fill out poll to select Virtual Conference agenda More Info If you have any questions, contact Howard Kramer at 303-492-8672 or at the email below. e-mail: hkramer@ahead.org Conference URL: http://accessinghigherground.org -- Howard Kramer CO-PI - UDUC*Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula* (UDUC)Lecturer, Cont. 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Frankly, I don't have good feelings about this working consistently. A few weeks ago I had trouble getting the computer with MathPlayer 3.0 to read any math at all. I tried to uninstall MathPlayer 3.0 and reinstall MathPlayer 2.0. After the uninstall I discovered that Design Science does not have earlier versions of MathPlayer available for download. When I reinstalled MathPlayer 3.0 ReadHere started reading math. I was even able to use JAWS and Internet Explorer to read pages with MathML. The pages were created with an earlier version of MathType, 6.7, I think. My point being that I uninstalled MathPlayer and then reinstalled the exact same file, I did not bother re-downloading it. The second installation worked while the first one did not. I don't know why, but I have concerns with others, especially, students being able to get this to work consistently. David Schwarte -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 12:32 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer I witnessed the same things, Julie, but once we had upgraded to the newer versions we found we couldn't downgrade again, which has left us stuck with no good solutions for our students. Bouncing off this discussion a little, has anyone tried using MathDAISY to produce a math-enabled DTB? What have been the results? And what playback equipment (ReadHear, EasyReader) has been tested with the output? I'm thinking that if some of the problems are stemming from flaws in the more recent versions of MathType, then it won't really matter if the end user is accessing a DTB or a MathPage, the same types of problems will occur. Any confirmation or evidence of this? Thanks, Teresa Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Balassa Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:21 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer Sean, I had to downgrade to MathType 6.7 and MathPlayer 2.2. Publishing to a mathpage using MathType 6.8 and 6.9 produced all kinds of missing math, even though it was all there in Word, and the consistent error message that the webpage is not responding and the option to recover the web page, which did nothing. It's true I'm using Word 2007 as it's more compatible with some alt format production processes but I think the issue is really with MathType versions newer than 6.7. I've just been having a discussion with Pearson about a math e-book they say is accessible but Jaws does not read several symbols. They argue that it's because I'm using MathPlayer 2.2 with IE 9 instead of v.3 as v.2 was supposedly made for IE 8 and earlier but I know that's not the issue. I think the issue is that DESSCI produces products they have not really tested with Jaws and to make matters worse, you have to argue with them to prove that the newer products don't work. Once you manage to convince them, they tell you you're the only one who has this issue and promise to send it to their programmers and you never hear another thing. Try creating the documents with MathType 6.7 and reading them with Jaws and Mathplayer 2.2 and I'll be surprised if your issues are not resolved. By the way, I'm on leave from Valencia till the end of November and submit these comments as an alt media specialist, not as a rep of Valencia College. jkb -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 6:28 PM To: Alternate Media; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer Hello all, I am curious if anyone else has been having the following issues with JAWS and Internet Explorer+MathPlayer: When attempting to view an HTML document that contains math on the local computer, JAWS will only read the address bar and any open tabs. Further, when attempting to get into the main browser window, IE throws a notification saying that "The webpage is not responding" and then provides a button to "Recover webpage." Pressing the Recover Webpage button or trying to refresh the document do nothing but reload the webpage. Once this happens, we get a few seconds of functionality before the error notification happens again. We are running JAWS 13 and JAWS 14 on two different machines with IE 9 and MathPlayer 3.0. The documents were created in both MathType 6.8 and 6.9 using the Publish to MathPage function. We are using the IE behavior export option. Has anyone else encountered these issues with JAWS, IE 9, and MathPlayer? Take care, Sean_______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu Wed Sep 25 14:05:28 2013 From: jbalassa at valenciacollege.edu (Julie Balassa) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:20 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer In-Reply-To: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0F4006E0@exmbt02.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <0B455C3A-E80C-4686-A6B7-00CD644CF20C@stanford.edu> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0F4006E0@exmbt02.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: Huh. Why couldn't you downgrade? I have executables of both MathType 6.7 and MathPlayer 2.2. I'm happy to share them if we can find a way for me to upload them somehow, maybe to a shared Dropbox folder. jkb -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 12:36 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer I witnessed the same things, Julie, but once we had upgraded to the newer versions we found we couldn't downgrade again, which has left us stuck with no good solutions for our students. Bouncing off this discussion a little, has anyone tried using MathDAISY to produce a math-enabled DTB? What have been the results? And what playback equipment (ReadHear, EasyReader) has been tested with the output? I'm thinking that if some of the problems are stemming from flaws in the more recent versions of MathType, then it won't really matter if the end user is accessing a DTB or a MathPage, the same types of problems will occur. Any confirmation or evidence of this? Thanks, Teresa Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Balassa Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:21 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer Sean, I had to downgrade to MathType 6.7 and MathPlayer 2.2. Publishing to a mathpage using MathType 6.8 and 6.9 produced all kinds of missing math, even though it was all there in Word, and the consistent error message that the webpage is not responding and the option to recover the web page, which did nothing. It's true I'm using Word 2007 as it's more compatible with some alt format production processes but I think the issue is really with MathType versions newer than 6.7. I've just been having a discussion with Pearson about a math e-book they say is accessible but Jaws does not read several symbols. They argue that it's because I'm using MathPlayer 2.2 with IE 9 instead of v.3 as v.2 was supposedly made for IE 8 and earlier but I know that's not the issue. I think the issue is that DESSCI produces products they have not really tested with Jaws and to make matters worse, you have to argue with them to prove that the newer products don't work. Once you manage to convince them, they tell you you're the only one who has this issue and promise to send it to their programmers and you never hear another thing. Try creating the documents with MathType 6.7 and reading them with Jaws and Mathplayer 2.2 and I'll be surprised if your issues are not resolved. By the way, I'm on leave from Valencia till the end of November and submit these comments as an alt media specialist, not as a rep of Valencia College. jkb -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 6:28 PM To: Alternate Media; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer Hello all, I am curious if anyone else has been having the following issues with JAWS and Internet Explorer+MathPlayer: When attempting to view an HTML document that contains math on the local computer, JAWS will only read the address bar and any open tabs. Further, when attempting to get into the main browser window, IE throws a notification saying that "The webpage is not responding" and then provides a button to "Recover webpage." Pressing the Recover Webpage button or trying to refresh the document do nothing but reload the webpage. Once this happens, we get a few seconds of functionality before the error notification happens again. We are running JAWS 13 and JAWS 14 on two different machines with IE 9 and MathPlayer 3.0. The documents were created in both MathType 6.8 and 6.9 using the Publish to MathPage function. We are using the IE behavior export option. Has anyone else encountered these issues with JAWS, IE 9, and MathPlayer? Take care, Sean_______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Wed Sep 25 14:10:58 2013 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:20 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer In-Reply-To: <63138735C2D95546820096F109FED94E3038CC11@WPVEXCMBX06.purdue.lcl> References: <0B455C3A-E80C-4686-A6B7-00CD644CF20C@stanford.edu> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0F4006E0@exmbt02.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <63138735C2D95546820096F109FED94E3038CC11@WPVEXCMBX06.purdue.lcl> Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0F40528F@exmbt02.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Thanks, David. One of the students for whom I provide MathPage files is a computer science major, very savvy, and he constantly fights with keeping playback working as he has to move from machine to machine, and even on his personal computers. I agree with you, even when it works I never count on it working the next time around. Has anyone heard of anything yet that is an alternative to the MathType workflow for making math materials accessible to non-braille-reading students? Teresa Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Schwarte, David M. Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:37 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer Hello Teresa, I have recently created a small test e-text using MathType 6.9, Word 2010, DAISy Translator, and MathDAISy 1.0. I was successfully able to read it with ReadHere on a computer that was using Internet Explorer 9 and MathPlayer 3.0. I was also able to read the same file on a computer with gh Player 2.2 and MathPlayer 2.0. Frankly, I don't have good feelings about this working consistently. A few weeks ago I had trouble getting the computer with MathPlayer 3.0 to read any math at all. I tried to uninstall MathPlayer 3.0 and reinstall MathPlayer 2.0. After the uninstall I discovered that Design Science does not have earlier versions of MathPlayer available for download. When I reinstalled MathPlayer 3.0 ReadHere started reading math. I was even able to use JAWS and Internet Explorer to read pages with MathML. The pages were created with an earlier version of MathType, 6.7, I think. My point being that I uninstalled MathPlayer and then reinstalled the exact same file, I did not bother re-downloading it. The second installation worked while the first one did not. I don't know why, but I have concerns with others, especially, students being able to get this to work consistently. David Schwarte -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 12:32 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer I witnessed the same things, Julie, but once we had upgraded to the newer versions we found we couldn't downgrade again, which has left us stuck with no good solutions for our students. Bouncing off this discussion a little, has anyone tried using MathDAISY to produce a math-enabled DTB? What have been the results? And what playback equipment (ReadHear, EasyReader) has been tested with the output? I'm thinking that if some of the problems are stemming from flaws in the more recent versions of MathType, then it won't really matter if the end user is accessing a DTB or a MathPage, the same types of problems will occur. Any confirmation or evidence of this? Thanks, Teresa Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Balassa Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:21 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer Sean, I had to downgrade to MathType 6.7 and MathPlayer 2.2. Publishing to a mathpage using MathType 6.8 and 6.9 produced all kinds of missing math, even though it was all there in Word, and the consistent error message that the webpage is not responding and the option to recover the web page, which did nothing. It's true I'm using Word 2007 as it's more compatible with some alt format production processes but I think the issue is really with MathType versions newer than 6.7. I've just been having a discussion with Pearson about a math e-book they say is accessible but Jaws does not read several symbols. They argue that it's because I'm using MathPlayer 2.2 with IE 9 instead of v.3 as v.2 was supposedly made for IE 8 and earlier but I know that's not the issue. I think the issue is that DESSCI produces products they have not really tested with Jaws and to make matters worse, you have to argue with them to prove that the newer products don't work. Once you manage to convince them, they tell you you're the only one who has this issue and promise to send it to their programmers and you never hear another thing. Try creating the documents with MathType 6.7 and reading them with Jaws and Mathplayer 2.2 and I'll be surprised if your issues are not resolved. By the way, I'm on leave from Valencia till the end of November and submit these comments as an alt media specialist, not as a rep of Valencia College. jkb -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 6:28 PM To: Alternate Media; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer Hello all, I am curious if anyone else has been having the following issues with JAWS and Internet Explorer+MathPlayer: When attempting to view an HTML document that contains math on the local computer, JAWS will only read the address bar and any open tabs. Further, when attempting to get into the main browser window, IE throws a notification saying that "The webpage is not responding" and then provides a button to "Recover webpage." Pressing the Recover Webpage button or trying to refresh the document do nothing but reload the webpage. Once this happens, we get a few seconds of functionality before the error notification happens again. We are running JAWS 13 and JAWS 14 on two different machines with IE 9 and MathPlayer 3.0. The documents were created in both MathType 6.8 and 6.9 using the Publish to MathPage function. We are using the IE behavior export option. Has anyone else encountered these issues with JAWS, IE 9, and MathPlayer? Take care, Sean_______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Wed Sep 25 14:11:36 2013 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:20 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer In-Reply-To: References: <0B455C3A-E80C-4686-A6B7-00CD644CF20C@stanford.edu> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0F4006E0@exmbt02.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0F4052A2@exmbt02.asurite.ad.asu.edu> We couldn't downgrade because we didn't have access to the executables -- we have managed care of our computers and the managing group didn't keep copies of the executables after they initially installed them when we purchased the licenses. I've since started keeping my own copies of executables after I learned there were no backups to the items we've purchased in the past, but if you could share copies of these programs that would be very helpful. I'll send you connection information off-list. Thanks! Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Balassa Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:05 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer Huh. Why couldn't you downgrade? I have executables of both MathType 6.7 and MathPlayer 2.2. I'm happy to share them if we can find a way for me to upload them somehow, maybe to a shared Dropbox folder. jkb -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 12:36 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer I witnessed the same things, Julie, but once we had upgraded to the newer versions we found we couldn't downgrade again, which has left us stuck with no good solutions for our students. Bouncing off this discussion a little, has anyone tried using MathDAISY to produce a math-enabled DTB? What have been the results? And what playback equipment (ReadHear, EasyReader) has been tested with the output? I'm thinking that if some of the problems are stemming from flaws in the more recent versions of MathType, then it won't really matter if the end user is accessing a DTB or a MathPage, the same types of problems will occur. Any confirmation or evidence of this? Thanks, Teresa Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center Arizona State University -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Balassa Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:21 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer Sean, I had to downgrade to MathType 6.7 and MathPlayer 2.2. Publishing to a mathpage using MathType 6.8 and 6.9 produced all kinds of missing math, even though it was all there in Word, and the consistent error message that the webpage is not responding and the option to recover the web page, which did nothing. It's true I'm using Word 2007 as it's more compatible with some alt format production processes but I think the issue is really with MathType versions newer than 6.7. I've just been having a discussion with Pearson about a math e-book they say is accessible but Jaws does not read several symbols. They argue that it's because I'm using MathPlayer 2.2 with IE 9 instead of v.3 as v.2 was supposedly made for IE 8 and earlier but I know that's not the issue. I think the issue is that DESSCI produces products they have not really tested with Jaws and to make matters worse, you have to argue with them to prove that the newer products don't work. Once you manage to convince them, they tell you you're the only one who has this issue and promise to send it to their programmers and you never hear another thing. Try creating the documents with MathType 6.7 and reading them with Jaws and Mathplayer 2.2 and I'll be surprised if your issues are not resolved. By the way, I'm on leave from Valencia till the end of November and submit these comments as an alt media specialist, not as a rep of Valencia College. jkb -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 6:28 PM To: Alternate Media; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer Hello all, I am curious if anyone else has been having the following issues with JAWS and Internet Explorer+MathPlayer: When attempting to view an HTML document that contains math on the local computer, JAWS will only read the address bar and any open tabs. Further, when attempting to get into the main browser window, IE throws a notification saying that "The webpage is not responding" and then provides a button to "Recover webpage." Pressing the Recover Webpage button or trying to refresh the document do nothing but reload the webpage. Once this happens, we get a few seconds of functionality before the error notification happens again. We are running JAWS 13 and JAWS 14 on two different machines with IE 9 and MathPlayer 3.0. The documents were created in both MathType 6.8 and 6.9 using the Publish to MathPage function. We are using the IE behavior export option. Has anyone else encountered these issues with JAWS, IE 9, and MathPlayer? Take care, Sean_______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From skeegan at stanford.edu Wed Sep 25 16:21:06 2013 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:20 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer In-Reply-To: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0F4006E0@exmbt02.asurite.ad.asu.edu> References: <0B455C3A-E80C-4686-A6B7-00CD644CF20C@stanford.edu> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0F4006E0@exmbt02.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Message-ID: <811E9EFB-7B28-4FE1-8E29-94DF3DA2995E@stanford.edu> I have had better success with creating DAISY math materials with MS Word+MathType+MathDAISY compared to using just MathPlayer and Internet Explorer. We built our MathDAISY workflow into our SCRIBE platform and have had solid success with that system (DAISY+MathDAISY books can also be created through the Sensus Access platform - http://sensusaccess.com). I have been able to use MathType 6.7 - 6.9 with similar results. On the other hand, I have had less success when trying that same workflow from a desktop computer that is subject to installations, updates, etc. For whatever reason, once you get MathDAISY working, you almost have to leave the computer alone so it does not get corrupted. Depending on what version of MS Word you are using, you may have to uninstall, reinstall, or run repairs to get MathType and MathDAISY to work. While I have been able to get MS Office 2010 to work, Office 2007 seemed to have fewer issues. So, at this point, I can create DAISY+MathDAISY books and they are playing reliably on both Read Hear and Easy Reader on the Windows platform with MathPlayer 3 installed. On the Mac platform, I have experienced frequent crashing with the Read Hear program and have been told an update is "coming soon." Trying to get MathPlayer 3 and Internet Explorer to work together has been far more difficult. Right now, I think there are several different issues with MathType, but the major problems affecting document creation and playback seem more related to MathDAISY and MathPlayer 3 with Internet Explorer. I have been using several different versions of MathType to create files and the bigger roadblocks seem to occur when I include MathDAISY and MathPlayer 3. Using IE with MathPlayer 2.2 seems to be more reliable, but does not have the same level of functionality as MathPlayer 3. Take care, Sean On Sep 24, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Teresa Haven wrote: > I witnessed the same things, Julie, but once we had upgraded to the newer versions we found we couldn't downgrade again, which has left us stuck with no good solutions for our students. > > Bouncing off this discussion a little, has anyone tried using MathDAISY to produce a math-enabled DTB? What have been the results? And what playback equipment (ReadHear, EasyReader) has been tested with the output? I'm thinking that if some of the problems are stemming from flaws in the more recent versions of MathType, then it won't really matter if the end user is accessing a DTB or a MathPage, the same types of problems will occur. Any confirmation or evidence of this? > Thanks, > Teresa > > Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. > Supervisor, Alternative Format Services > Disability Resource Center > Arizona State University > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Balassa > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:21 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: RE: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer > > Sean, I had to downgrade to MathType 6.7 and MathPlayer 2.2. Publishing to a mathpage using MathType 6.8 and 6.9 produced all kinds of missing math, even though it was all there in Word, and the consistent error message that the webpage is not responding and the option to recover the web page, which did nothing. It's true I'm using Word 2007 as it's more compatible with some alt format production processes but I think the issue is really with MathType versions newer than 6.7. I've just been having a discussion with Pearson about a math e-book they say is accessible but Jaws does not read several symbols. They argue that it's because I'm using MathPlayer 2.2 with IE 9 instead of v.3 as v.2 was supposedly made for IE 8 and earlier but I know that's not the issue. I think the issue is that DESSCI produces products they have not really tested with Jaws and to make matters worse, you have to argue with them to prove that the newer products don't work. Once you manage to convince them, they tell you you're the only one who has this issue and promise to send it to their programmers and you never hear another thing. Try creating the documents with MathType 6.7 and reading them with Jaws and Mathplayer 2.2 and I'll be surprised if your issues are not resolved. > > By the way, I'm on leave from Valencia till the end of November and submit these comments as an alt media specialist, not as a rep of Valencia College. > jkb > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 6:28 PM > To: Alternate Media; Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer > > Hello all, > > I am curious if anyone else has been having the following issues with JAWS and Internet Explorer+MathPlayer: When attempting to view an HTML document that contains math on the local computer, JAWS will only read the address bar and any open tabs. Further, when attempting to get into the main browser window, IE throws a notification saying that "The webpage is not responding" and then provides a button to "Recover webpage." > > Pressing the Recover Webpage button or trying to refresh the document do nothing but reload the webpage. Once this happens, we get a few seconds of functionality before the error notification happens again. > > We are running JAWS 13 and JAWS 14 on two different machines with IE 9 and MathPlayer 3.0. The documents were created in both MathType 6.8 and 6.9 using the Publish to MathPage function. We are using the IE behavior export option. > > Has anyone else encountered these issues with JAWS, IE 9, and MathPlayer? > > Take care, > Sean_______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From Teresa.Haven at asu.edu Thu Sep 26 11:37:38 2013 From: Teresa.Haven at asu.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:20 2018 Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer In-Reply-To: <811E9EFB-7B28-4FE1-8E29-94DF3DA2995E@stanford.edu> References: <0B455C3A-E80C-4686-A6B7-00CD644CF20C@stanford.edu> <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0F4006E0@exmbt02.asurite.ad.asu.edu> <811E9EFB-7B28-4FE1-8E29-94DF3DA2995E@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <41DBE0E04D07504A86D68558FE7BAB6B0F407BD9@exmbt02.asurite.ad.asu.edu> Thanks, Sean, that's helpful. Since we are on "managed" computers our machines change on a weekly and sometimes daily basis, and we have no control over that. It has caused issues with some of our other production software so I shouldn't be surprised that it is probably also causing issues with our MathType production. Cheers, Teresa -----Original Message----- From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:21 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer I have had better success with creating DAISY math materials with MS Word+MathType+MathDAISY compared to using just MathPlayer and Internet Explorer. We built our MathDAISY workflow into our SCRIBE platform and have had solid success with that system (DAISY+MathDAISY books can also be created through the Sensus Access platform - http://sensusaccess.com). I have been able to use MathType 6.7 - 6.9 with similar results. On the other hand, I have had less success when trying that same workflow from a desktop computer that is subject to installations, updates, etc. For whatever reason, once you get MathDAISY working, you almost have to leave the computer alone so it does not get corrupted. Depending on what version of MS Word you are using, you may have to uninstall, reinstall, or run repairs to get MathType and MathDAISY to work. While I have been able to get MS Office 2010 to work, Office 2007 seemed to have fewer issues. So, at this point, I can create DAISY+MathDAISY books and they are playing reliably on both Read Hear and Easy Reader on the Windows platform with MathPlayer 3 installed. On the Mac platform, I have experienced frequent crashing with the Read Hear program and have been told an update is "coming soon." Trying to get MathPlayer 3 and Internet Explorer to work together has been far more difficult. Right now, I think there are several different issues with MathType, but the major problems affecting document creation and playback seem more related to MathDAISY and MathPlayer 3 with Internet Explorer. I have been using several different versions of MathType to create files and the bigger roadblocks seem to occur when I include MathDAISY and MathPlayer 3. Using IE with MathPlayer 2.2 seems to be more reliable, but does not have the same level of functionality as MathPlayer 3. Take care, Sean On Sep 24, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Teresa Haven wrote: > I witnessed the same things, Julie, but once we had upgraded to the newer versions we found we couldn't downgrade again, which has left us stuck with no good solutions for our students. > > Bouncing off this discussion a little, has anyone tried using MathDAISY to produce a math-enabled DTB? What have been the results? And what playback equipment (ReadHear, EasyReader) has been tested with the output? I'm thinking that if some of the problems are stemming from flaws in the more recent versions of MathType, then it won't really matter if the end user is accessing a DTB or a MathPage, the same types of problems will occur. Any confirmation or evidence of this? > Thanks, > Teresa > > Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D. > Supervisor, Alternative Format Services Disability Resource Center > Arizona State University > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of > Julie Balassa > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:21 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: RE: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer > > Sean, I had to downgrade to MathType 6.7 and MathPlayer 2.2. Publishing to a mathpage using MathType 6.8 and 6.9 produced all kinds of missing math, even though it was all there in Word, and the consistent error message that the webpage is not responding and the option to recover the web page, which did nothing. It's true I'm using Word 2007 as it's more compatible with some alt format production processes but I think the issue is really with MathType versions newer than 6.7. I've just been having a discussion with Pearson about a math e-book they say is accessible but Jaws does not read several symbols. They argue that it's because I'm using MathPlayer 2.2 with IE 9 instead of v.3 as v.2 was supposedly made for IE 8 and earlier but I know that's not the issue. I think the issue is that DESSCI produces products they have not really tested with Jaws and to make matters worse, you have to argue with them to prove that the newer products don't work. Once you manage to convince them, they tell you you're the only one who has this issue and promise to send it to their programmers and you never hear another thing. Try creating the documents with MathType 6.7 and reading them with Jaws and Mathplayer 2.2 and I'll be surprised if your issues are not resolved. > > By the way, I'm on leave from Valencia till the end of November and submit these comments as an alt media specialist, not as a rep of Valencia College. > jkb > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of > Sean Keegan > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 6:28 PM > To: Alternate Media; Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] JAWS with IE 9 and MathPlayer > > Hello all, > > I am curious if anyone else has been having the following issues with JAWS and Internet Explorer+MathPlayer: When attempting to view an HTML document that contains math on the local computer, JAWS will only read the address bar and any open tabs. Further, when attempting to get into the main browser window, IE throws a notification saying that "The webpage is not responding" and then provides a button to "Recover webpage." > > Pressing the Recover Webpage button or trying to refresh the document do nothing but reload the webpage. Once this happens, we get a few seconds of functionality before the error notification happens again. > > We are running JAWS 13 and JAWS 14 on two different machines with IE 9 and MathPlayer 3.0. The documents were created in both MathType 6.8 and 6.9 using the Publish to MathPage function. We are using the IE behavior export option. > > Has anyone else encountered these issues with JAWS, IE 9, and MathPlayer? > > Take care, > Sean_______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From wulfcx at jmu.edu Fri Sep 27 10:19:25 2013 From: wulfcx at jmu.edu (Wulf, Christina - wulfcx) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:20 2018 Subject: [Athen] Captioning help Message-ID: Hi all - I'm working with a hard-of-hearing student who needs captioned versions of two full-length, commercial movies. So far, I've not located captioned versions or transcripts. We can do the captioning in-house, but before I jump into that, I wanted to check with you all to see if there are resources for transcripts or captioned versions that I haven't checked yet. Movies: The Best Man (2010 re-release, 1964 original) - MGM A Perfect Candidate (1996) - FirstRunFeatures *Here's what I've tried so far: I have calls/emails in to the following (but no replies yet): -The documentary producers at FirstRunFilms. (I haven't figured out who/how to contact MGM.) -PBS: they ran the Perfect Candidate documentary with captions in 2012-- I'm hoping they might still have a transcript... Also: -YouTube & the web for digital versions or transcripts - No -WorldCat to see if any libraries own a captioned version - No -Netflix - No -Described & Captioned Media Program - very kind & helpful but no copies Are there other resources I should investigate? Thanks so much! Christina Office of Disability Services Accessible Media & Technology Specialist James Madison University 208 Wilson Hall 540-568-5046 wulfcx@jmu.edu From petri.1 at osu.edu Fri Sep 27 12:36:44 2013 From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Ken Petri) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:20 2018 Subject: [Athen] YouTube caption editor major improvements Message-ID: A couple of days ago (it appears) YouTube upgraded its captioning tool so that now you can transcribe right into a text box next to the video and then let YouTube sync it for you. There are shortcut keys for jumping back 5 seconds and pausing the playback. You can set it to pause automatically when you are typing. [image: The Ohio State University] Ken Petri, Program Director Web Accessibility Center, ADA Coordinator's Office and Office for Disability Services 102D Pomerene Hall | 1760 Neil Ave. Columbus, OH 43210 614-292-1760 Office | 614-218-1499 Mobile | 614-292-4190 Fax petri.1@osu.edu wac.osu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.sorensen at pcc.edu Mon Sep 30 10:55:17 2013 From: karen.sorensen at pcc.edu (Karen Sorensen) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:20 2018 Subject: [Athen] RE: YouTube caption editor major improvements Message-ID: Great news Ken! Thanks for sharing. They've had the transcribe box available for a few months (as far as I know), but not the automatic pause and 5 second rewind. How fantastic! Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 *"The power of the Web is in its universality. 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