From mudoitactctest at missouri.edu Tue Apr 1 08:03:11 2014 From: mudoitactctest at missouri.edu (MU DoIT ACTC Accessibility Test) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:38 2018 Subject: [Athen] Online Proctoring tools Message-ID: Greetings, We are investigating the following online proctoring technologies to start using at our University: * Remote Proctor NOW by Software Secure * Proctor U by ProctorU Inc. If you have any accessibility information of these products or could provide any other pertinent information that you think could help us, please let us know. With appreciation, Carmen Schafer Univ of Missouri | Division of IT | ACT Center http://actcenter.missouri.edu (573)882-8838 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petri.1 at osu.edu Tue Apr 1 09:14:05 2014 From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Petri, Kenneth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:38 2018 Subject: [Athen] Online eBook Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <0caa01cf4929$7a69baf0$6f3d30d0$@gmail.com> , <20A3A02A29D92B4A98F3C5009C14080718E3068701@Mitchel.cortland.edu> Message-ID: Sean and Krista, Like Sean, my experience has been that if you have a screen reader turned on, whether in iOS, Android (Kindle HDX or other), or Kindle for PC with Accessibility Plugin, any book -- not just books with TTS enabled by the publisher -- will be able to be read by the TTS. It appears Amazon is taking the very reasonable approach that if you are using a screen reader, you have a qualifying disability and you should be able to access the book text with your screen reader/TTS. Best, ken [The Ohio State University] Ken Petri, Program Director Web Accessibility Center, ADA Coordinator's Office and Office for Disability Services 102D Pomerene Hall | 1760 Neil Ave. Columbus, OH 43210 614-292-1760 Office | 614-218-1499 Mobile | 614-292-4190 Fax petri.1@osu.edu | wac.osu.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:37 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Online eBook Accessibility I have been able to get a Kindle book that is not TTS enabled to read using NVDA in the Kindle for PC application as well as by using the copy/paste method into other applications. I also got it to work on a Kindle Fire HDX using the Accessibility option in Settings. I am going to check into any specific settings to see if that may have been the difference. It may be a device-specific issue where the TTS support is either respected or ignored. take care, sean On Mar 28, 2014, at 4:00 PM, "KRISTA L. GREEAR" > wrote: It is my understanding that yes, the book have to be TTS enabled by Amazon. Krista Greear Access Text & Technology Manager Disability Resources for Students (206) 543-8924 disability.wa.edu ________________________________ From: athen-list [athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] on behalf of Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman [Jeremy.Zhe-Heimerman@cortland.edu] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 12:22 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Online eBook Accessibility I'm glad to hear that Natural Reader worked for you, as I have many students who prefer that, but I've never been able to get it to work with Kindle to PC, even with the Accessibility Plugin. Did the books have to be TTS enabled by Amazon? Thanks, Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman, MS, MAT Coordinator, Assistive Technology and Test Administration Services B-204, Memorial Library SUNY Cortland 81 Prospect Terrace - PO Box 2000 Cortland, NY 13045 Phone: (607) 753-2358 Fax: (607) 753-5495 From: KRISTA L. GREEAR [mailto:greeark@uw.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Online eBook Accessibility I had a similar situation with a student this week. They wanted to be able to use TTS with the Kindle books they purchased. They have the Kindle to PC w/ Accessibility Plug in software on their Windows computer. I tested and was able to get Natural Reader, Balabolka and CAR (Central Access Reader) to read the Kindle book in the Kindle to PC software. The student doesn't want to have to learn how to use a screen reader (VoiceOver or NVDA) as they are sighted and find the additional navigation cues annoying. Thankfully, using Kindle books in this manner prevented the student from having to learn how to use another piece of software as the 3 TTS engines worked for me. Krista Greear Access Text & Technology Manager Disability Resources for Students (206) 543-8924 disability.wa.edu ________________________________ From: athen-list [athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] on behalf of Wink Harner [foreigntype@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:27 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Online eBook Accessibility Hi out there in ATHEN-Land, Anyone have any first-hand experience with the use of screen readers or TTS readers with online textbook sources such as: - Chegg - CourseSmart - GooglePlay- - Kindle - Kno - Vital Source Publisher denied a PDF file and suggested the student purchase one of the electronic versions of the requested book from the sources (above). Student's preference is PDF, but if he can get the file to read aloud, he may be OK. I have asked him for his preference. What experience do any of you have in the TTS capabilities on any of those e-book sources listed? Let me know! Thanks in advance for your collective knowledge. Wink Harner foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 3605 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From ron at altformatsolutions.com Tue Apr 1 13:01:57 2014 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:38 2018 Subject: [Athen] AT/Alt Format job in DC area Message-ID: <01a801cf4de5$3d15eb90$b741c2b0$@altformatsolutions.com> Hi all, I have a good lead on an AT/AM position in the DC area. The pay is competitive and am looking for folks to refer. Please email me privately if you are interested. Ron Stewart **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ats169 at psu.edu Tue Apr 1 14:08:01 2014 From: ats169 at psu.edu (Alexa Schriempf) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:38 2018 Subject: [Athen] FM receiver for computer and hearing aid In-Reply-To: <8552D8B7-F9CC-4664-BF4D-C9F963A5F7E2@stanford.edu> References: <8552D8B7-F9CC-4664-BF4D-C9F963A5F7E2@stanford.edu> Message-ID: Of course, the exception is the rule! :) *wink* So I couldn't resist and ran over to phonak's my link page. In looking at this page: http://www.phonak.com/nz/b2c/en/products/fm/receivers/mylink.html I see that there is a bullet point for the following feature: "FM demonstration function - headphones can be connected to MyLink to help acousticians demonstrate the benefits of FM to decision makers with normal hearing." That, to me, is industry-speak for: there ought to be a 3.5 mm jack in the my link receiver. Grab any ol (but preferrably high quality cable) with two prongs (3 band) on each end, and connect the mylink to the audio jack of the laptop. Run skype or whatever "phone service" and hopefully the audio feed will get picked up by that app. If this works, then that means the student gets to use the nice audio-quality mic that comes with the mylink, no? Keen to learn how this works out! -Alexa On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Sean J Keegan wrote: > Hi Alexa, > > We are using Phonak equipment, so we happen to have that one brand that is > the exception for FM transmitters/receivers! (grin) > > Attaching a Y-connector is not an option as the student's receiver is > integrated into the hearing aid itself. We do have an extra MyLink+ > receiver that *might* work with the audio-in for the computer. I had not > thought of using that, but it does have an audio out port, so that may be a > good fix. > > We have been using a stationary mic similar to what you had described. It > has worked okay, but has not given a whole lot of flexibility in the > seating arrangement due to cables. I think we will try the MyLink+ option > as that may make the whole setup simple and require minimal wires. That > would allow the student to use her hearing aids as desired as well as > provide a signal directly from the instructor into the computer. > > Thanks for the response - great details for future reference! > > Take care, > Sean > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 31, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Alexa Schriempf wrote: > > As a life long FM user myself, a couple of things spring to mind: > > 1) You won't find any information about FM systems from hearing aid > companies. FM systems *usually* are manufactured by non-hearing aid > manufacturers. (One exception is Phonak, who also makes FM systems that are > pairable with their hearing aids). > > 2) Most simple solution: why not just use the FM system the student is > using and use a Y adapter on the receiver? One part of the Y would take the > neckloop or DAI cable, and the other part of the Y would be to connect to > the computer's audio jack. You would still need skype or internet phone > call to send the audio signal out to the CART service. > > > 3) Most remote CART services use a wireless mic and transmitter that sends > a signal to your laptop....basically what you are doing is extending the > laptop's microphone for better quality. Here's one that sits on a desk: > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samson-Mic-Clip-USB-Microphone/dp/B001R76D42/ref=sr_1_cc_3?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1360770620&sr=1-3-catcorr#productDetailsbut they make lapel ones too. > > In this way, the mic (not an FM transmitter!) is sending an audio signal > to the laptop. That signal is then sent to the remote captionist through a > skype call. The captionist then types the audio into a website that the > student accesses. So skype is operating in the background, while the CART > provider's website is on front. The student views the website for the text > of the audio. > > You could use a PART of an FM system to jack into the audio being sent to > the laptop via the remote mic. This would be either a T coil neck loop, or > regular headphones. > > To be clear, the audio feed would be coming from a wireless audio mic, > that has its own signal. This is not an FM system. If in fact the remote > CART service is using FM system to transmit, I'd be curious how they're > doing that. While I'm on this, there *IS* another way to connect an FM to > the computer, but you still have to use skype to send the > > And to be more clear: how the HOH student "jacks" into the laptop for the > audio is to find an interface that works well for him/her. Me personally, I > don't like T coil because the signal is not as loud as it could be; my > cochlear implant processors are too high on my head such that a t coil neck > loop sitting around my neck barely reaches the processors in terms of field > strength. I have to boost the volume on my laptop AND my processors. Once I > boost, it's totally fine. But it's extra work to push the buttons on my > remote that pairs with my processors, deal with the neckloop, and all the > other equipment. I just use Bose headphones and plug into the laptop. > > If the student is a hearing aid user, headphones won't work very well > because they will cause, most likely, but not always, very noisy feedback > that is audible to everyone. Can be embarrasing. Thus, there are two > options, depending on the hearing aid brand. One can go with Direct Audio > Input (DAI) cable, connected to the audio jack of the computer; or one can > go with the Neckloop T Coil (or over the ear T coil hooks), which also > connect to the audio jack of laptop. > > Over the ear t coil loop example: > http://hsdcstore.com/browseproducts/Phonic-Ear-Dual-Silhouette-Headset.html > > Neckloop t coil example: > http://www.harriscomm.com/index.php/williams-sound-nkl001-18-inch-neckloop-telecoil-coupler.html > > Loops and cables to connect hearing aids to the audio on a laptop are a > dime a dozen; the student can explore which ones s/he likes best, and work > hopefully with his or her audiologist to shoot for the best audio quality > possible. Avoid bluetooth, especially generic off the shelf blue tooth. If > the student already has an FM system, the end of that neckloop or DAI > cables *may* have a plug end that is correctly sized to fit the laptop. If > it's a prong but wrong size, an adapter plug can be purchased. If it's a > more proprietary plug (like those airplane audio jacks used to be), then > you're probably better off getting a whole new neckloop or DAI cable. > Usually, the FM maker has a variety of cable options. You could contact > them for a different cable. > > The difference between #2 and #3 is where the user sits in the "audio > circuit". Basically, you need to mic the speaker, and send that audio via a > phone or internet phone signal. You could either use a mic that send the > signal to the user (Ie, FM system), then jack the computer into the signal > alongside the user (#2 above), OR use the mic to send the signal to the > computer (wireless, non-FM mic), and then jack the user into the computer. > FWIW, I would prefer whichever system had the better mic, and I wouldn't > know until I tried both. No matter which way you go, you still need skype > or the like to send the audio feed remotely. And no matter which way you > go, the audio feed is still real time, so even if the internet drops out, > the student will still hear whatever comes through the mic worn by the > speaker. > > Hope this isn't TMI. Understanding how FM systems can interface with other > technology is difficult b/c there are a variety of hook up options....but > no extra "special" devices needed -- just cables and adapters. > > -Alexa > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Sean Keegan wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> A question was posed to me and I am not having much success finding an >> answer. Here is the situation: >> >> A student is using a standard FM receiver with the transmitter provided >> to the instructor. There is also a need to have remote CART services >> provided. We are trying to find a method to have the audio signal sent from >> the FM transmitter to a USB or audio-in FM receiver connected to a laptop >> which can then send the signal to a remote transcription provider. >> >> I am not having much success in locating such a device. The CART provider >> says that they exist as secondary receivers and can plug into the audio-in >> jack or USB port, but has not received any information from the hearing aid >> company. >> >> Any ideas from the field? >> >> Take care, >> Sean >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > > > > -- > Alexa Schriempf, Access Tech Consultant > Office for Disability Services > Teaching and Learning with Technology: Accessibility Group > Adaptive Technology Services, University Libraries > Penn State > https://sites.psu.edu/aschriempf/ > http://equity.psu.edu/ods > http://tlt.its.psu.edu/ > http://www.libraries.psu.edu/psul/adaptivetechnologies.html > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- Alexa Schriempf, Access Tech Consultant Office for Disability Services Teaching and Learning with Technology: Accessibility Group Adaptive Technology Services, University Libraries Penn State https://sites.psu.edu/aschriempf/ http://equity.psu.edu/ods http://tlt.its.psu.edu/ http://www.libraries.psu.edu/psul/adaptivetechnologies.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ron at altformatsolutions.com Wed Apr 2 07:06:14 2014 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:38 2018 Subject: [Athen] AltFormat Survey Message-ID: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> Good morning all I have been asked to develop a survey of the biggest challenges in the AltFormat space. Can you send me what you find to be the "pain points" in the provision and delivery of your alt format obligations I will work with my team to develop a survey that will be distributed in the coming months. Ron Stewart **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU Wed Apr 2 07:13:26 2014 From: Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU (Susan Kelmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:38 2018 Subject: [Athen] AltFormat Survey In-Reply-To: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> References: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> Message-ID: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192DF47@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Penguin Random House Only half kidding. Actually, not kidding at all. These two publishers give me the biggest grief. Aside from that: 1. Publishers and others assuming that Bookshare is good enough. It is good for certain types of students, but not for all of them. 2. Difficulty in STEM alt format - the conversion process, how much manual labor is involved, how complex the tools are. 3. The assumption that an alt format person is also a content expert. 4. A hundred different formats for a hundred different reasons, and needing specialized software to access some of them (Learning Ally and Bookshare and ePub and Daisy and and and) rather than the tools the student may already have. 5. Professors and teaching staff that don't understand how important alternate format is, and how they can provide it easily themselves without our intervention. Those would be my top five. I'm interested to see what others come up with. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kcahill at MIT.EDU Wed Apr 2 07:26:50 2014 From: kcahill at MIT.EDU (Kathleen Cahill) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] AltFormat Survey In-Reply-To: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192DF47@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> References: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192DF47@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: Susan, you summed it up so well. Especially Penguin and Random House. I would also add that science simulations online are difficult to make accessible and students with disabilities lose out on those important teaching tools. STEM alt format is challenging since there are a number of ways to do it, all of which are somewhat convoluted and difficult. Our faculty sometimes provides course materials and class slides with little to no lead time for conversion. Getting them to think ahead more is tough. I second Susan?s comment about the difficulties of what DAISY books work with what readers. Susan?s point about professors and teaching staff thinking they understand how to provide alt format is also true. We?ve had issues where the professors think they get it, the student isn?t always clear about their needs and the exam isn?t the right format. We try to iron out these issues ahead of time, but it doesn?t always happen. Kathleen Cahill MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu From: Susan Kelmer > Reply-To: Access Network > Date: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 at 10:13 AM To: Access Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey Penguin Random House Only half kidding. Actually, not kidding at all. These two publishers give me the biggest grief. Aside from that: 1. Publishers and others assuming that Bookshare is good enough. It is good for certain types of students, but not for all of them. 2. Difficulty in STEM alt format ? the conversion process, how much manual labor is involved, how complex the tools are. 3. The assumption that an alt format person is also a content expert. 4. A hundred different formats for a hundred different reasons, and needing specialized software to access some of them (Learning Ally and Bookshare and ePub and Daisy and and and) rather than the tools the student may already have. 5. Professors and teaching staff that don?t understand how important alternate format is, and how they can provide it easily themselves without our intervention. Those would be my top five. I?m interested to see what others come up with. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at nau.edu Wed Apr 2 07:39:39 2014 From: Teresa.Haven at nau.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] AltFormat Survey In-Reply-To: References: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192DF47@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E57D7@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> I'll third all of what Susan and Kathleen said. Also, even when students do know what works best for them, faculty often don't understand how to create an accessible document or just think that because it's digital it's automatically accessible. Getting the faculty educated in how to do things right from the beginning (so that they can post last-second content without needing conversion), without also having to teach each one of them individually, is a growing challenge. Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst Northern Arizona University (928) 523-6042 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 7:27 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey Susan, you summed it up so well. Especially Penguin and Random House. I would also add that science simulations online are difficult to make accessible and students with disabilities lose out on those important teaching tools. STEM alt format is challenging since there are a number of ways to do it, all of which are somewhat convoluted and difficult. Our faculty sometimes provides course materials and class slides with little to no lead time for conversion. Getting them to think ahead more is tough. I second Susan's comment about the difficulties of what DAISY books work with what readers. Susan's point about professors and teaching staff thinking they understand how to provide alt format is also true. We've had issues where the professors think they get it, the student isn't always clear about their needs and the exam isn't the right format. We try to iron out these issues ahead of time, but it doesn't always happen. Kathleen Cahill MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu From: Susan Kelmer > Reply-To: Access Network > Date: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 at 10:13 AM To: Access Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey Penguin Random House Only half kidding. Actually, not kidding at all. These two publishers give me the biggest grief. Aside from that: 1. Publishers and others assuming that Bookshare is good enough. It is good for certain types of students, but not for all of them. 2. Difficulty in STEM alt format - the conversion process, how much manual labor is involved, how complex the tools are. 3. The assumption that an alt format person is also a content expert. 4. A hundred different formats for a hundred different reasons, and needing specialized software to access some of them (Learning Ally and Bookshare and ePub and Daisy and and and) rather than the tools the student may already have. 5. Professors and teaching staff that don't understand how important alternate format is, and how they can provide it easily themselves without our intervention. Those would be my top five. I'm interested to see what others come up with. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shahidak at echo.rutgers.edu Wed Apr 2 08:15:40 2014 From: shahidak at echo.rutgers.edu (Shahida Khaliq) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] AltFormat Survey In-Reply-To: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E57D7@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> References: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192DF47@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E57D7@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Message-ID: Ditto. The comments below I think hold true for a lot of us. STEM is absolutely the biggest problem. Best Regards Shahida Khaliq Coordinator for Alternate Format Text & Adaptive Tech. Office of Disability Services Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey Lucy Stone Hall, Livingston Campus 54 Joyce Kilmer Ave, Suite A145 Piscataway, New Jersey 08854 Phone # (848) 445-6800 Fax # (732) 445-3388 Office Hours Monday- Friday 8:30am-5:00pm Website: https://ods.rutgers.edu Making a Key Difference From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 10:40 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey I'll third all of what Susan and Kathleen said. Also, even when students do know what works best for them, faculty often don't understand how to create an accessible document or just think that because it's digital it's automatically accessible. Getting the faculty educated in how to do things right from the beginning (so that they can post last-second content without needing conversion), without also having to teach each one of them individually, is a growing challenge. Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst Northern Arizona University (928) 523-6042 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 7:27 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey Susan, you summed it up so well. Especially Penguin and Random House. I would also add that science simulations online are difficult to make accessible and students with disabilities lose out on those important teaching tools. STEM alt format is challenging since there are a number of ways to do it, all of which are somewhat convoluted and difficult. Our faculty sometimes provides course materials and class slides with little to no lead time for conversion. Getting them to think ahead more is tough. I second Susan's comment about the difficulties of what DAISY books work with what readers. Susan's point about professors and teaching staff thinking they understand how to provide alt format is also true. We've had issues where the professors think they get it, the student isn't always clear about their needs and the exam isn't the right format. We try to iron out these issues ahead of time, but it doesn't always happen. Kathleen Cahill MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu From: Susan Kelmer > Reply-To: Access Network > Date: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 at 10:13 AM To: Access Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey Penguin Random House Only half kidding. Actually, not kidding at all. These two publishers give me the biggest grief. Aside from that: 1. Publishers and others assuming that Bookshare is good enough. It is good for certain types of students, but not for all of them. 2. Difficulty in STEM alt format - the conversion process, how much manual labor is involved, how complex the tools are. 3. The assumption that an alt format person is also a content expert. 4. A hundred different formats for a hundred different reasons, and needing specialized software to access some of them (Learning Ally and Bookshare and ePub and Daisy and and and) rather than the tools the student may already have. 5. Professors and teaching staff that don't understand how important alternate format is, and how they can provide it easily themselves without our intervention. Those would be my top five. I'm interested to see what others come up with. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Wed Apr 2 08:47:50 2014 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] AltFormat Survey In-Reply-To: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E57D7@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> References: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192DF47@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E57D7@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Message-ID: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F626637422@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> Hi all, I'd like to add issues with "extra" or complimentary materials provided by publishers. This can include homework, quizzes, additional reading, learning support, etc. We've had instructors require these complimentary materials and since many are (were?) flash-based, we end up having to basically re-type the entire assignment. Alongside STEM I would add foreign language materials for difficulty in conversion. Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker Coordinator, Technology Access Disability Resource Center 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 7:40 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey I'll third all of what Susan and Kathleen said. Also, even when students do know what works best for them, faculty often don't understand how to create an accessible document or just think that because it's digital it's automatically accessible. Getting the faculty educated in how to do things right from the beginning (so that they can post last-second content without needing conversion), without also having to teach each one of them individually, is a growing challenge. Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst Northern Arizona University (928) 523-6042 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 7:27 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey Susan, you summed it up so well. Especially Penguin and Random House. I would also add that science simulations online are difficult to make accessible and students with disabilities lose out on those important teaching tools. STEM alt format is challenging since there are a number of ways to do it, all of which are somewhat convoluted and difficult. Our faculty sometimes provides course materials and class slides with little to no lead time for conversion. Getting them to think ahead more is tough. I second Susan's comment about the difficulties of what DAISY books work with what readers. Susan's point about professors and teaching staff thinking they understand how to provide alt format is also true. We've had issues where the professors think they get it, the student isn't always clear about their needs and the exam isn't the right format. We try to iron out these issues ahead of time, but it doesn't always happen. Kathleen Cahill MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu From: Susan Kelmer > Reply-To: Access Network > Date: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 at 10:13 AM To: Access Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey Penguin Random House Only half kidding. Actually, not kidding at all. These two publishers give me the biggest grief. Aside from that: 1. Publishers and others assuming that Bookshare is good enough. It is good for certain types of students, but not for all of them. 2. Difficulty in STEM alt format - the conversion process, how much manual labor is involved, how complex the tools are. 3. The assumption that an alt format person is also a content expert. 4. A hundred different formats for a hundred different reasons, and needing specialized software to access some of them (Learning Ally and Bookshare and ePub and Daisy and and and) rather than the tools the student may already have. 5. Professors and teaching staff that don't understand how important alternate format is, and how they can provide it easily themselves without our intervention. Those would be my top five. I'm interested to see what others come up with. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbailey at uoregon.edu Wed Apr 2 09:40:30 2014 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] AltFormat Survey In-Reply-To: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> References: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> Message-ID: Ron: My position hasn't changed in over 15 years. The paper text needs a fully accessible version (including Braille files) on an included CD. Sorry for tilting at windmills, but anything less is not equal access. James -- James Bailey M.S. Associate Director Accessible Education Center University of Oregon From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 7:06 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network; aheadmembers@listserve.com Subject: [Athen] AltFormat Survey Good morning all I have been asked to develop a survey of the biggest challenges in the AltFormat space. Can you send me what you find to be the "pain points" in the provision and delivery of your alt format obligations I will work with my team to develop a survey that will be distributed in the coming months. Ron Stewart ******************************************************************************* Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 09:49:51 2014 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] AltFormat Survey In-Reply-To: References: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192DF47@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E57D7@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Message-ID: 1. Top priority is a relatively universal, independent tool plus a set standardized publisher guidelines to ensure math/science conversion for (as much as possible) accurate rendering of math, science and engineering texts into audio format. No more jerry-rigged, retyped, convoluted, complicated and unacceptable turn-arounds for providing student texts. For example publishing math & science materials which are prepared with MML in mind. Should be a file-type choice on the publisher requests (XML, MML, XHTML, for example, in addition to DOC, RTF, PDF). 2. Universally accepted practices among publishers to provide textbook fiIes, provide access to material in a universal, standardized format, with a standard turnaround time (48-72 hrs for example) for providing a download link for the files, a standard "qualifying" form available online and in an easily found location or found with standardized terminology (for example, all publishers could make the request available under "permissions"), starting with renderable PDF, adhering to a consistent set of useable file types. 3. Engaging LMS in setting standards for "accessibility" not just of online access by students, but of documents uploaded to the course by the instructors. Providing basic formatting guidelines to instructors on how to format MSOffice, PDFs, and other document types (Windows, iThings, Linux etc.) for accessibility prior to upload, providing steps to test for screen reader usability, steps for simple captioning, steps for mouseless navigation, for example. 4. Engaging the national testing boards in creating accessible technology standards for tests. 5. Engaging the regional accreditation boards for colleges & universities in adopting standards for technology-based accessibility to be used in the accreditation process and in subsequent re-qualification for accreditation. There are a few of my BIG dreams. As the conversation develops, I'm sure we'll all think of more to add. Wink Wink Harner foreigntype@gmail.com > On Apr 2, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Shahida Khaliq wrote: > > Ditto. The comments below I think hold true for a lot of us. STEM is absolutely the biggest problem. > > Best Regards > Shahida Khaliq > Coordinator for Alternate Format Text & Adaptive Tech. > > Office of Disability Services > Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey > Lucy Stone Hall, Livingston Campus > 54 Joyce Kilmer Ave, Suite A145 > Piscataway, New Jersey 08854 > Phone # (848) 445-6800 Fax # (732) 445-3388 > Office Hours Monday- Friday 8:30am-5:00pm > Website: https://ods.rutgers.edu > Making a Key Difference > > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 10:40 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey > > I?ll third all of what Susan and Kathleen said. Also, even when students do know what works best for them, faculty often don?t understand how to create an accessible document or just think that because it?s digital it?s automatically accessible. Getting the faculty educated in how to do things right from the beginning (so that they can post last-second content without needing conversion), without also having to teach each one of them individually, is a growing challenge. > > Teresa > > Teresa Haven, Ph.D. > Accessibility Analyst > Northern Arizona University > (928) 523-6042 > > > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 7:27 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey > > Susan, you summed it up so well. Especially Penguin and Random House. I would also add that science simulations online are difficult to make accessible and students with disabilities lose out on those important teaching tools. > > STEM alt format is challenging since there are a number of ways to do it, all of which are somewhat convoluted and difficult. > > Our faculty sometimes provides course materials and class slides with little to no lead time for conversion. Getting them to think ahead more is tough. I second Susan?s comment about the difficulties of what DAISY books work with what readers. > > Susan?s point about professors and teaching staff thinking they understand how to provide alt format is also true. We?ve had issues where the professors think they get it, the student isn?t always clear about their needs and the exam isn?t the right format. We try to iron out these issues ahead of time, but it doesn?t always happen. > > > Kathleen Cahill > MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) > 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 > Cambridge MA 02139 > (617) 253-5111 > kcahill@mit.edu > > > From: Susan Kelmer > Reply-To: Access Network > Date: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 at 10:13 AM > To: Access Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey > > Penguin > Random House > > Only half kidding. Actually, not kidding at all. These two publishers give me the biggest grief. Aside from that: > > 1. Publishers and others assuming that Bookshare is good enough. It is good for certain types of students, but not for all of them. > 2. Difficulty in STEM alt format ? the conversion process, how much manual labor is involved, how complex the tools are. > 3. The assumption that an alt format person is also a content expert. > 4. A hundred different formats for a hundred different reasons, and needing specialized software to access some of them (Learning Ally and Bookshare and ePub and Daisy and and and) rather than the tools the student may already have. > 5. Professors and teaching staff that don?t understand how important alternate format is, and how they can provide it easily themselves without our intervention. > > Those would be my top five. I?m interested to see what others come up with. > > Susan Kelmer > Alternate Format Coordinator > Disability Services > University of Colorado > 303-735-4836 > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkb1200s at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 10:02:16 2014 From: jkb1200s at gmail.com (jkb) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] AltFormat Survey In-Reply-To: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F626637422@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> References: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192DF47@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E57D7@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F626637422@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> Message-ID: 1. Time Time Time to convert all the inaccessible formats, especially STEM with complex math and images. This includes publisher materials, institutional materials, faculty produced materials. 2. Understaffing due to lack of understanding on the part of administrators of the time-consuming nature of alt format production and the necessity that we produce alt formats that meet student needs and OCR requirements. 3. Training that consumes too much time because most of the stafrf consist of student workers or part time staff from other departments who move on after a semester or two. 4. Lack of a central alt format production solution like the HTCTU or AMAC. Institutions in my state refuse to collaborate as they fear loss of independence and autonomy. 5. Too many students who are unfamilair with alt formats and how to use them and agencies with tighter and tighter budgets who refuse to pay for sufficient training of their student clients. Those are my top 5. And ditto to what everyone else has said so far. Julie K Balassa On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) < hunziker@email.arizona.edu> wrote: > Hi all, > > > > I'd like to add issues with "extra" or complimentary materials provided by > publishers. This can include homework, quizzes, additional reading, > learning support, etc. We've had instructors require these complimentary > materials and since many are (were?) flash-based, we end up having to > basically re-type the entire assignment. > > > > Alongside STEM I would add foreign language materials for difficulty in > conversion. > > > > Dawn > > > > ~~ > > Dawn Hunziker > > Coordinator, Technology Access > > > > Disability Resource Center > > 520-626-9409 > > hunziker@email.arizona.edu > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Teresa Haven > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 02, 2014 7:40 AM > > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey > > > > I'll third all of what Susan and Kathleen said. Also, even when students > do know what works best for them, faculty often don't understand how to > create an accessible document or just think that because it's digital it's > automatically accessible. Getting the faculty educated in how to do things > right from the beginning (so that they can post last-second content without > needing conversion), without also having to teach each one of them > individually, is a growing challenge. > > > > Teresa > > > > Teresa Haven, Ph.D. > > Accessibility Analyst > > Northern Arizona University > > (928) 523-6042 > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] > *On Behalf Of *Kathleen Cahill > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 02, 2014 7:27 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey > > > > Susan, you summed it up so well. Especially Penguin and Random House. I > would also add that science simulations online are difficult to make > accessible and students with disabilities lose out on those important > teaching tools. > > > > STEM alt format is challenging since there are a number of ways to do it, > all of which are somewhat convoluted and difficult. > > > > Our faculty sometimes provides course materials and class slides with > little to no lead time for conversion. Getting them to think ahead more is > tough. I second Susan's comment about the difficulties of what DAISY books > work with what readers. > > > > Susan's point about professors and teaching staff thinking they understand > how to provide alt format is also true. We've had issues where the > professors think they get it, the student isn't always clear about their > needs and the exam isn't the right format. We try to iron out these issues > ahead of time, but it doesn't always happen. > > > > > > Kathleen Cahill > > MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) > > 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 > > Cambridge MA 02139 > > (617) 253-5111 > > kcahill@mit.edu > > > > > > *From: *Susan Kelmer > *Reply-To: *Access Network > *Date: *Wednesday, April 2, 2014 at 10:13 AM > *To: *Access Network > *Subject: *Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey > > > > Penguin > > Random House > > > > Only half kidding. Actually, not kidding at all. These two publishers > give me the biggest grief. Aside from that: > > > > 1. Publishers and others assuming that Bookshare is good enough. > It is good for certain types of students, but not for all of them. > > 2. Difficulty in STEM alt format - the conversion process, how much > manual labor is involved, how complex the tools are. > > 3. The assumption that an alt format person is also a content > expert. > > 4. A hundred different formats for a hundred different reasons, and > needing specialized software to access some of them (Learning Ally and > Bookshare and ePub and Daisy and and and) rather than the tools the student > may already have. > > 5. Professors and teaching staff that don't understand how > important alternate format is, and how they can provide it easily > themselves without our intervention. > > > > Those would be my top five. I'm interested to see what others come up > with. > > > > *Susan Kelmer* > > *Alternate Format Coordinator* > > *Disability Services* > > *University of Colorado* > > *303-735-4836 <303-735-4836>* > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Wed Apr 2 10:08:26 2014 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] AltFormat Survey In-Reply-To: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> References: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> Message-ID: Hi Ron, This is just a quick list of thoughts off the top of my head and they may/may not be appropriate for what you are interested in surveying. A few questions that come to mind: - In terms of STEM content, I would suggest distinguishing between the production vs. consumption of such materials. I have found that the production workflow of STEM content can be dependent on the device/application used to read and consume said content. That said, what are the production processes that offices are using? What are timelines associated with such content and are these timelines different than non-STEM content? - In terms of library support, what are institutions doing to support the conversion processes of library materials? Is the library responsible or is it the disability services office? What are timelines associated with such conversion requests? Who has responsibility for interacting with the student and who is responsible for the actual production? - In terms of captioning, what are the roles of different offices on campus for providing captioned materials? Do some offices have responsibility for responding to captioning requests vs. other offices captioning materials prior to release? Are institutions captioning everything, requested media only (i.e., when there is a student/staff need), or only public facing materials? Note - I added this item as captioning is sometimes lumped under Alt Format at institutions - if not pertinent to the survey, then feel free to discard. - In terms of online courses, how are alt format services being provided to students at a distance, particularly if such alternate formats involve braille and/or tactile graphics? With regards to MOOCs, are institutions providing alt format support? What happens when the platform and content provided is not accessible and the only way to participate would be via alt format accommodations? - In terms of the "flipped classroom" model, how is alternate format being supported when the student is expected to watch a video of a PowerPoint slideshow (and answer questions) prior to the classroom lecture? What timelines and requirements are involved in such flipped classroom situations when the materials are uploaded 24-hours prior to the class? - In terms of student alt format requests, how are "micro-jobs" being handled? Note - I define a micro-job as one in which the prof provides a handout/reading assignment 1-2 days before the next class meeting. The job itself may be big or small in terms of the alt format time investment, but is not necessarily a full textbook production. In terms of formats, what is the production level for DAISY, ePub 2/3, MS Word, MP3, PDF, Kindle, etc. at institutions? Is this correlated with the types of AT applications supported at an institution? Take care, Sean On Apr 2, 2014, at 7:06 AM, "Ron Stewart" wrote: > Good morning all I have been asked to develop a survey of the biggest challenges in the AltFormat space. Can you send me what you find to be the "pain points" in the provision and delivery of your alt format obligations I will work with my team to develop a survey that will be distributed in the coming months. > > Ron Stewart > > ******************************************************************************* > Ron Stewart > Managing Consultant > Altformat Solutions LLC > > 8300 West Weller St > Yorktown, IN 47396 > Mobile: 609 213-2190 > Fax: 765 405-1484 > > ron@altformatsolutions.com > www.altformatsolutions.com > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We have several projects now addressing STEM accessibility but once again it tends to be those on the mailing lists and working in the field of accessibility who know about them not the general educationalists or those in the workplace. So there is still a big knowledge gap to be bridged as well as the difficulties in addressing who delivers the service and how it is maintained in times of constraint. Sorry to add a rather depressing note. Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan WAIS, ECS , University of Southampton Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 Mobile +44 (0)7976 289103 http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As an advocate for and support to persons with disabilities, the Director works collaboratively with other campus constituencies to ensure that the University is committed to accessibility and knowledgeable about the experiences of persons with disabilities. The work of the unit supports the University of Minnesota Board of Regents Policy on Disability Services. UMD is committed to providing equitable access and learning opportunities for the University community and guests. The position is a 12 month, annual renewable contract, full time appointment, with occasional weekend or evening commitments. The Office of Disability Resources promotes an equitable and inclusive learning environment by facilitating reasonable and appropriate accommodations, empowering students to become self-advocates, and educating the campus community. Required Qualifications -Completed Masters' degree in Rehabilitation, Student Personnel, Counseling, Education, or a related field such as Social Work or Psychology -Minimum of four years of experience in providing service to students with disabilities at the post-secondary level -Demonstrate experience with legal requirements of Americans with Disability Act and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act -Demonstrated skill in advocating for students with disabilities in an education setting -Demonstrated experience in managing difficult situations involving students, parents, staff, faculty, and community members -Demonstrated experience with assistive technology -Demonstrated experience to work with people from diverse backgrounds and cultures and inclusive of racial, ethnic, religious, political, sexual orientation, gender identity and perspectives -Demonstrated experience supervising professional staff -Demonstrated excellent written, oral and interpersonal skills -Demonstrated experience reviewing documentation of disabilities Preferred Qualifications -Demonstrated knowledge of trends that support the development of inclusive education for students with disabilities -Active participation in national and regional associations -Experience with transitioning students from k-12 into college -Experience in developing and implementing strategic plans -Demonstrated knowledge of W3C Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 (WCAG) -Experience working with people with low-incidence disabilities (blindness, deafness, autism) -Working knowledge of the deaf community, their language and cultural needs -Demonstrated experience in program assessment and budget management For the complete job description and for application instructions please visit: https://employment.umn.edu/applicants/Central?quickFind=119055 Individuals from underrepresented groups are encouraged to apply. The University of Minnesota is committed to the policy that all persons shall have equal access to its programs, facilities, and employment without regard to race, color, creed, religion, national origin, sex, age, marital status, disability, public assistance status, veteran status, or sexual orientation. From shahidak at echo.rutgers.edu Fri Apr 4 11:00:11 2014 From: shahidak at echo.rutgers.edu (Shahida Khaliq) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fujitsu PA03641-B005 Document Scanner Message-ID: Good Afternoon all Quick question anyone had any experience with the "Fujitsu PA03641-B005 Document Scanner". Would like to see if anyone in AFT has used it and what are your thoughts on it. Best Regards Shahida Khaliq Coordinator for Alternate Format Text & Adaptive Tech. Office of Disability Services Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey Lucy Stone Hall, Livingston Campus 54 Joyce Kilmer Ave, Suite A145 Piscataway, New Jersey 08854 Phone # (848) 445-6800 Fax # (732) 445-3388 Office Hours Monday- Friday 8:30am-5:00pm Website: https://ods.rutgers.edu Making a Key Difference -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Fri Apr 4 11:35:03 2014 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fujitsu PA03641-B005 Document Scanner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0a8f01cf5034$98a9f3b0$c9fddb10$@ahead.org> These types of scanners can be useful in places like libraries and the such, but for general alt format production I have found them typically more trouble than they are worth due to the overscans and such issues they create. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Shahida Khaliq Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 1:00 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Fujitsu PA03641-B005 Document Scanner Good Afternoon all Quick question anyone had any experience with the "Fujitsu PA03641-B005 Document Scanner". Would like to see if anyone in AFT has used it and what are your thoughts on it. Best Regards Shahida Khaliq Coordinator for Alternate Format Text & Adaptive Tech. Office of Disability Services Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey Lucy Stone Hall, Livingston Campus 54 Joyce Kilmer Ave, Suite A145 Piscataway, New Jersey 08854 Phone # (848) 445-6800 Fax # (732) 445-3388 Office Hours Monday- Friday 8:30am-5:00pm Website: https://ods.rutgers.edu Making a Key Difference -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The historic event will include presentations by three U.S. Presidents and distinguished panelists across the civil rights spectrum. Regrettably, the Summit does not include representation from the disability community. The National Council on Disability (NCD), an independent federal agency whose 15 members are appointed by the President, urges the LBJ Presidential Library to take this opportunity to include the perspectives and contributions 54 million Americans with disabilities in keeping our collective eyes on the prize for every American still subject to discrimination. Just as the legislative journey toward justice that resulted in passage of the Civil Rights Act began long before the law was championed by President Lyndon B. Johnson and passed by Congress, the Civil Rights Act remains in many ways a work in progress as we seek to create a society where every American is recognized, included and valued in the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness. In a speech on June 11, 1963, President John F. Kennedy called for civil rights legislation that would give "all Americans the right to be served in facilities which are open to the public--hotels, restaurants, theaters, retail stores, and similar establishments", as well as "greater protection for the right to vote." JFK's clarion call served as a significant catalyst for the Civil Rights Act, arguably the most transformational civil rights legislation after the Reconstruction and a crucial step in the realization of America's promise, sought to ensure equality for recipients of federal funds, employers, places of public accommodation (like bus stations, restrooms and lunch counters) by prohibiting discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. As President Johnson astutely surmised, "There are no problems we cannot solve together, and very few that we can solve by ourselves." While the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was not written with Americans with disabilities in mind, there is no doubt it paved the way for future civil rights legislation like the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 that will be celebrating an anniversary of its own on April 5th. On that day 37 years ago in 1977, sit-ins were organized across the nation because nearly four years after the Rehabilitation Act was passed, no regulations had been enacted to enforce the law. Protests at the U.S. Department of Health, Education and Welfare (HEW) in San Francisco lasted 25 days until HEW Secretary Joseph Califano - who will be speaking at the Civil Rights Summit on Wednesday April 9 - signed the regulations. Later, the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA) and the subsequent ADA amendments passed in 2008, granted additional protections that owe a great debt to the pioneering example established by the Civil Rights Act. The Civil Rights Act Summit organized by the LBJ Presidential Library provides a unique and rare opportunity to look back on our shared legacies while simultaneously allowing us in the present-day, right here, right now, to explore, predict and create a better future for everyone, including Americans with disabilities. Any meaningful observation of the Civil Rights Act would be lacking if it did not also recognize its extraordinary legislative legacy because as Dr. King noted, "the arc of history might be long but it bends toward justice." In reviewing the history of any marginalized group or any community, it would be safe to say disability has, at one time or another, probably been used in an attempt to justify unfair treatment and discrimination toward that group and to demean, dehumanize and devalue those identified as its members. For example, women were once widely regarded as weak, irrational or emotionally unstable. People of color were wantonly accused of being dangerous or deviant. The attribution of disability across numerous communities has been used to deny voting access, sell human beings as chattel and to sterilize and lobotomize without consent. These are fundamental civil rights American citizens have fought for and deserve to exercise freely and without discrimination. The collective past, present and future of the disability and civil rights movements remain as inexorably linked now as they were in decades past. NCD urges the LBJ Library to infuse the rich history, diverse perspectives and valuable insights of the disability community throughout the upcoming Civil Rights Summit and calls for meaningful inclusion of the disability advocates in ongoing civil rights dialogues going forward. "Nothing about us, without us" is more than a slogan. 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URL: From lissner.2 at osu.edu Mon Apr 7 05:48:12 2014 From: lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, L S. (Scott )) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Call for papers: Accessibility of Open, Distance and e-Learning for Students with Disabilities In-Reply-To: <1685CD8D16FA8B4DA85004C8B26C273002B55AB0E2@SALCEYCMS1.open.ac.uk> References: <1685CD8D16FA8B4DA85004C8B26C273002B55AB0E2@SALCEYCMS1.open.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Behalf Of Chetz.Colwell Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 3:51 AM Subject: Call for papers: Accessibility of Open, Distance and e-Learning for Students with Disabilities Dear Colleagues, Please find below a call for papers for a special issue on Accessibility of Open, Distance and e-Learning for Students with Disabilities, for The Journal of Open, Distance and e-Learning (Open Learning). Anne Jelfs and I are the guest editors for this special issue and we'd be very pleased if you would consider submitting a paper or case study. All the details are provided below, but if you have any queries please just get in touch. Please also forward this call for papers to your colleagues and contacts who might be interested in contributing to this special issue. Regards, Chetz Introduction The 21st century brings a changing educational environment with greater emphasis on the use of technology in teaching and learning, which is particularly true for a lot of distance and open education providers. In this call for papers we are focusing on disabled students, especially those studying at a distance from the educational provider. In 2012/13 approximately 10% of UK first year undergraduate and taught postgraduate students have declared a disability (HESA, undated). Along with education providers' moral obligation to enable disabled people to participate in learning, in many countries there is a legal imperative to avoid discrimination against disabled people. For example, the UK's Equality Act (OPSI, 2010) places a duty on Universities to avoid discrimination and provide reasonable adjustments for disabled students. Similar legislation exists in the USA's Rehabilitation Act and Americans with Disabilities Act which impact on what and how education is delivered. But that is not the whole story: How do students work with technology that is both liberating and possibly restricting their educational experience? Does the curriculum or pedagogy need to change to incorporate more disabled students? How do educational institutions manage the legislation? Plus many more questions, hence the need for this special issue which focuses on the following themes. Themes The purpose of this special issue is to advance understanding of the ways in which open and distance learning can increase the accessibility of learning for people with disabilities as well as enhancing their learning experience and academic performance, and the challenges in enabling this. We welcome papers on applied and developmental research and case studies in the following areas: * Technology; the accessibility of online learning and collaboration tools, the use of web 2.0 technologies for accessibility, technical barriers to learning and overcoming them. * Pedagogy: * curriculum issues including teaching students with disabilities in specific disciplines such as Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics, Arts, Languages, developing particular tools to enable students in specific discipline areas * Assessment, attainment and retention of disabled students in distance and open learning. * Accessibility of Open Educational Resources (OERs) and Massive Open Online Courses (MOOCs). * Institutional change: increasing disability awareness; embedding accessibility in policy; policy evaluation studies * Disabled students' perspectives: results of surveys or evaluations. * Training and professional development for those who support or teach disabled learners * Technologies for teachers with disabilities * Cultural issues - such as attitudes of others: family members, fellow students, concepts of disability, negative discrimination * Working with other agencies to support students with disabilities Research papers should be 5,000 -7,000 words and case studies 3,000 - 5,000. References Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) (undated) 2012/13 first year students by Disability [online] http://www.hesa.ac.uk/dox/dataTables/studentsAndQualifiers/download/Disab1213.xlsx (accessed 14/03/2014) Office of Public Sector Information (OPSI) (2010) Equality Act 2010 [online] http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/contents (accessed 14/03/2014) Deadline for submission of full papers: 1st July 2014 Submission process For more information about this call for papers or if you are unsure whether your paper will be suitable for inclusion, please email the editors of the special issue: Dr Chetz Colwell Chetz.Colwell@open.ac.uk and Dr Anne Jelfs Anne.Jelfs@open.ac.uk with an outline or any other queries. Otherwise prepare your paper following the instructions to authors given on the Open Learning journal website at http://www.tandfonline.com/action/authorSubmission?journalCode=copl20&page=instructions, and submit it directly any time before the deadline. When using the online submission system, please ensure that when you are asked to choose 'manuscript type', you select the option 'special issue manuscript' from the drop down menu. This ensures that your paper is allocated to the processing stream of papers being considered for this special issue. All papers will be read by the editors of the special issue and then sent for double blind peer review. Authors will be informed of the editors' decision by the 1st August 2014 and any revisions must be completed to the satisfaction of the editors before the 1st October 2014. Dr Chetz Colwell Learning & Teaching Development Manager (Accessibility), Co-chair of H810 Accessible online learning: supporting disabled students (http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/course/h810.htm) Institute of Educational Technology The Open University Walton Hall Milton Keynes MK7 6AA 01908 655772 The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an exempt charity in England & Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC 038302). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shahidak at echo.rutgers.edu Mon Apr 7 07:32:35 2014 From: shahidak at echo.rutgers.edu (Shahida Khaliq) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fujitsu PA03641-B005 Document Scanner In-Reply-To: <0a8f01cf5034$98a9f3b0$c9fddb10$@ahead.org> References: <0a8f01cf5034$98a9f3b0$c9fddb10$@ahead.org> Message-ID: Thanks Ron. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 2:35 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Fujitsu PA03641-B005 Document Scanner These types of scanners can be useful in places like libraries and the such, but for general alt format production I have found them typically more trouble than they are worth due to the overscans and such issues they create. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Shahida Khaliq Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 1:00 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Fujitsu PA03641-B005 Document Scanner Good Afternoon all Quick question anyone had any experience with the "Fujitsu PA03641-B005 Document Scanner". Would like to see if anyone in AFT has used it and what are your thoughts on it. Best Regards Shahida Khaliq Coordinator for Alternate Format Text & Adaptive Tech. Office of Disability Services Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey Lucy Stone Hall, Livingston Campus 54 Joyce Kilmer Ave, Suite A145 Piscataway, New Jersey 08854 Phone # (848) 445-6800 Fax # (732) 445-3388 Office Hours Monday- Friday 8:30am-5:00pm Website: https://ods.rutgers.edu Making a Key Difference -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU Mon Apr 7 10:31:53 2014 From: Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU (Susan Kelmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab Message-ID: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192E119@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> For those of you with an adaptive/assistive tech lab for student use...we are in the process of writing a few new policies, and wondered what other people have in place as far as policy in their lab. Would love to see them if you have them. Thanks. 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Sheryl ------------------------------------------------------------ Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu On Apr 7, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Susan Kelmer wrote: > For those of you with an adaptive/assistive tech lab for student use?we are in the process of writing a few new policies, and wondered what other people have in place as far as policy in their lab. Would love to see them if you have them. > > Thanks. > > Susan Kelmer > Alternate Format Coordinator > Disability Services > University of Colorado > 303-735-4836 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU Mon Apr 7 12:25:57 2014 From: Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU (Susan Kelmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab In-Reply-To: <5DE70AEE-CB8A-4826-832C-1B8F75633394@uw.edu> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192E119@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <5DE70AEE-CB8A-4826-832C-1B8F75633394@uw.edu> Message-ID: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192E13A@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Our lab is housed in the DS office and is only accessed by those with permission to do so (it is a locked lab and students can gain access using their swipe card). Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sheryl Burgstahler Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 12:35 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Cc: dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab Do you see your lab as serving only individuals with documented disabilities, individuals with self-disclosed disabilities, or anyone who would like to use assistive technology? Sheryl ------------------------------------------------------------ Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu On Apr 7, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Susan Kelmer wrote: For those of you with an adaptive/assistive tech lab for student use...we are in the process of writing a few new policies, and wondered what other people have in place as far as policy in their lab. Would love to see them if you have them. Thanks. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Mon Apr 7 12:36:31 2014 From: ron at ahead.org (ron@ahead.org) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] =?utf-8?q?Lab_Polices_for_adaptive/assistive_lab?= In-Reply-To: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192E13A@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192E119@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <5DE70AEE-CB8A-4826-832C-1B8F75633394@uw.edu> <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192E13A@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <20140407193631.10705.qmail@s465.sureserver.com> So what do you do when they can't use a swipe card? A better practice is to use a proximity key which can be in a smart card, or a fob. Ron > -------Original Message------- > From: Susan Kelmer > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab > Sent: Apr 07 '14 12:25 > > Our lab is housed in the DS office and is only accessed by those with > permission to do so (it is a locked lab and students can gain access using > their swipe card). > > > _Susan Kelmer_ > > _Alternate Format Coordinator_ > > _Disability Services_ > > _University of Colorado_ > > _303-735-4836_ > > > FROM: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] ON > BEHALF OF Sheryl Burgstahler > SENT: Monday, April 07, 2014 12:35 PM > TO: Access Technology Higher Education Network > CC: dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu > SUBJECT: Re: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab > > > Do you see your lab as serving only individuals with documented > disabilities, individuals with self-disclosed disabilities, or anyone who > would like to use assistive technology? > > > Sheryl > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. > Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT > Affiliate Professor, Education > University of Washington, Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 > [LINK: http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb] > http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb > [LINK: mailto:sherylb@uw.edu] sherylb@uw.edu > > > On Apr 7, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Susan Kelmer wrote: > > > For those of you with an adaptive/assistive tech lab for student > use?we are in the process of writing a few new policies, and wondered > what other people have in place as far as policy in their lab. Would love > to see them if you have them. > > > Thanks. > > > _Susan Kelmer_ > > > _Alternate Format Coordinator_ > > > _Disability Services_ > > > _University of Colorado_ > > > _303-735-4836_ > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > [LINK: mailto:athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu] > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > [LINK: http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list] > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > -------------------- > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > [LINK: compose.php?to=athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu] > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > [LINK: http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list] > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From Teresa.Haven at nau.edu Mon Apr 7 12:54:22 2014 From: Teresa.Haven at nau.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint Message-ID: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E8D8F@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Greetings, all. I'm attempting to retrofit a PPT presentation created by a colleague who, until recently, was unfamiliar with accessibility needs. This particular presentation has been a work in progress for many years and across many versions of PPT. One slide in particular has a lot of separate text elements that need to be read in order to make sense; when listening to it initially with JAWS, just a couple of items were read out of order so I attempted to clean that up (am in Office 2010 for Windows); according to Microsoft's help site I should fix the reading order using Arrange>Selection Pane. When I viewed the reading order it was NOTHING like what I was hearing with JAWS - it looked completely random, despite the fact that JAWS was doing a pretty good job with the page. Well, I "fixed" the reading order in Selection Pane and now the slide is read as complete gibberish by JAWS - nothing is in order. Yes, I still have a copy of the original file and can go back, or I can re-create the slide from scratch, but does anyone have a suggestion for how to reliably repair reading order in PPT slides? Thanks for your ideas, Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst Northern Arizona University (928) 523-6042 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU Mon Apr 7 13:55:41 2014 From: Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU (Susan Kelmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab In-Reply-To: <20140407193631.10705.qmail@s465.sureserver.com> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192E119@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <5DE70AEE-CB8A-4826-832C-1B8F75633394@uw.edu> <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192E13A@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <20140407193631.10705.qmail@s465.sureserver.com> Message-ID: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192E14A@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Ron, we've addressed this issue already on our campus; "swipe card" is a general reference term. What I'm looking for is lab usage policies for students. Behavior, usage of equipment, etiquette, those sorts of things. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of ron@ahead.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 1:37 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab So what do you do when they can't use a swipe card? A better practice is to use a proximity key which can be in a smart card, or a fob. Ron > -------Original Message------- > From: Susan Kelmer > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab > Sent: Apr 07 '14 12:25 > > Our lab is housed in the DS office and is only accessed by those with > permission to do so (it is a locked lab and students can gain access > using their swipe card). > > > _Susan Kelmer_ > > _Alternate Format Coordinator_ > > _Disability Services_ > > _University of Colorado_ > > _303-735-4836_ > > > FROM: athen-list > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] ON BEHALF OF > Sheryl Burgstahler > SENT: Monday, April 07, 2014 12:35 PM > TO: Access Technology Higher Education Network > CC: dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu > SUBJECT: Re: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab > > > Do you see your lab as serving only individuals with documented > disabilities, individuals with self-disclosed disabilities, or anyone > who would like to use assistive technology? > > > Sheryl > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. > Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate > Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, > WA 98195 > 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 > [LINK: http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb] > http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb > [LINK: mailto:sherylb@uw.edu] sherylb@uw.edu > > > On Apr 7, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Susan Kelmer wrote: > > > For those of you with an adaptive/assistive tech lab for student > use?we are in the process of writing a few new policies, and wondered > what other people have in place as far as policy in their lab. Would > love to see them if you have them. > > > Thanks. > > > _Susan Kelmer_ > > > _Alternate Format Coordinator_ > > > _Disability Services_ > > > _University of Colorado_ > > > _303-735-4836_ > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > [LINK: mailto:athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu] > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > [LINK: http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list] > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > -------------------- > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > [LINK: compose.php?to=athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu] > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > [LINK: http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list] > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From ron at ahead.org Mon Apr 7 14:08:39 2014 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab In-Reply-To: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192E14A@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> References: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192E119@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <5DE70AEE-CB8A-4826-832C-1B8F75633394@uw.edu> <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192E13A@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <20140407193631.10705.qmail@s465.sureserver.com> <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B40192E14A@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <004f01cf52a5$8d0091e0$a701b5a0$@ahead.org> Thanks for the response. It is a bad generic term because it is a hot button topic for access eval work. Ron -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kelmer [mailto:Susan.Kelmer@Colorado.EDU] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 3:56 PM To: ron@ahead.org; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab Ron, we've addressed this issue already on our campus; "swipe card" is a general reference term. What I'm looking for is lab usage policies for students. Behavior, usage of equipment, etiquette, those sorts of things. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of ron@ahead.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 1:37 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab So what do you do when they can't use a swipe card? A better practice is to use a proximity key which can be in a smart card, or a fob. Ron > -------Original Message------- > From: Susan Kelmer > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab > Sent: Apr 07 '14 12:25 > > Our lab is housed in the DS office and is only accessed by those with > permission to do so (it is a locked lab and students can gain access > using their swipe card). > > > _Susan Kelmer_ > > _Alternate Format Coordinator_ > > _Disability Services_ > > _University of Colorado_ > > _303-735-4836_ > > > FROM: athen-list > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] ON BEHALF OF > Sheryl Burgstahler > SENT: Monday, April 07, 2014 12:35 PM > TO: Access Technology Higher Education Network > CC: dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu > SUBJECT: Re: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab > > > Do you see your lab as serving only individuals with documented > disabilities, individuals with self-disclosed disabilities, or anyone > who would like to use assistive technology? > > > Sheryl > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. > Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate > Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, > WA 98195 > 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 > [LINK: http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb] > http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb > [LINK: mailto:sherylb@uw.edu] sherylb@uw.edu > > > On Apr 7, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Susan Kelmer wrote: > > > For those of you with an adaptive/assistive tech lab for student > use?we are in the process of writing a few new policies, and wondered > what other people have in place as far as policy in their lab. Would > love to see them if you have them. > > > Thanks. > > > _Susan Kelmer_ > > > _Alternate Format Coordinator_ > > > _Disability Services_ > > > _University of Colorado_ > > > _303-735-4836_ > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > [LINK: mailto:athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu] > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > [LINK: http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list] > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > -------------------- > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > [LINK: compose.php?to=athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu] > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > [LINK: http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list] > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From paire at temple.edu Tue Apr 8 08:02:20 2014 From: paire at temple.edu (Paul E. Paire) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E8D8F@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> References: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E8D8F@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Message-ID: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CC840C9@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> Teresa, Don't miss that the reading order is bottom up in the Selection pane, not top down like you'd expect. -Paul From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 3:54 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint Greetings, all. I'm attempting to retrofit a PPT presentation created by a colleague who, until recently, was unfamiliar with accessibility needs. This particular presentation has been a work in progress for many years and across many versions of PPT. One slide in particular has a lot of separate text elements that need to be read in order to make sense; when listening to it initially with JAWS, just a couple of items were read out of order so I attempted to clean that up (am in Office 2010 for Windows); according to Microsoft's help site I should fix the reading order using Arrange>Selection Pane. When I viewed the reading order it was NOTHING like what I was hearing with JAWS - it looked completely random, despite the fact that JAWS was doing a pretty good job with the page. Well, I "fixed" the reading order in Selection Pane and now the slide is read as complete gibberish by JAWS - nothing is in order. Yes, I still have a copy of the original file and can go back, or I can re-create the slide from scratch, but does anyone have a suggestion for how to reliably repair reading order in PPT slides? Thanks for your ideas, Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst Northern Arizona University (928) 523-6042 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at nau.edu Tue Apr 8 08:10:52 2014 From: Teresa.Haven at nau.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CC840C9@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> References: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E8D8F@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CC840C9@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> Message-ID: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E977B@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Thanks, Paul. Karen also let me know that in a private email. What baffles me is the fact that JAWS was reading a couple of slides in almost perfect order, despite the reading order in the Selection Pane being completely different (and not just backwards of what I would have expected). Cheers, Teresa From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Paul E. Paire Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 8:02 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint Teresa, Don't miss that the reading order is bottom up in the Selection pane, not top down like you'd expect. -Paul From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 3:54 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint Greetings, all. I'm attempting to retrofit a PPT presentation created by a colleague who, until recently, was unfamiliar with accessibility needs. This particular presentation has been a work in progress for many years and across many versions of PPT. One slide in particular has a lot of separate text elements that need to be read in order to make sense; when listening to it initially with JAWS, just a couple of items were read out of order so I attempted to clean that up (am in Office 2010 for Windows); according to Microsoft's help site I should fix the reading order using Arrange>Selection Pane. When I viewed the reading order it was NOTHING like what I was hearing with JAWS - it looked completely random, despite the fact that JAWS was doing a pretty good job with the page. Well, I "fixed" the reading order in Selection Pane and now the slide is read as complete gibberish by JAWS - nothing is in order. Yes, I still have a copy of the original file and can go back, or I can re-create the slide from scratch, but does anyone have a suggestion for how to reliably repair reading order in PPT slides? Thanks for your ideas, Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst Northern Arizona University (928) 523-6042 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ache2 at pdx.edu Tue Apr 8 09:52:29 2014 From: ache2 at pdx.edu (Angel Chesimet) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E977B@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> References: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E8D8F@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CC840C9@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E977B@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Message-ID: <324BBD47-A9F2-4435-AE32-BA9506418158@pdx.edu> A quick and easy fix to power points for jaws is to send it through Google mail. If you attach it to an email and open it using Google mail it gives you an option to converted to HTML. It's very clean and easy to read from then on. At this point you can also copy and paste it into word for editing during lectures. Angel Chesimet Graduate Candidate Spring, 2015 Clinical Rehabilitation Counseling Portland State University Mobile: 503-470-2626 > On Apr 8, 2014, at 8:10 AM, Teresa Haven wrote: > > Thanks, Paul. Karen also let me know that in a private email. What baffles me is the fact that JAWS was reading a couple of slides in almost perfect order, despite the reading order in the Selection Pane being completely different (and not just backwards of what I would have expected). > Cheers, > Teresa > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Paul E. Paire > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 8:02 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint > > Teresa, > > Don?t miss that the reading order is bottom up in the Selection pane, not top down like you?d expect. > > -Paul > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 3:54 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) > Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint > > Greetings, all. I?m attempting to retrofit a PPT presentation created by a colleague who, until recently, was unfamiliar with accessibility needs. This particular presentation has been a work in progress for many years and across many versions of PPT. One slide in particular has a lot of separate text elements that need to be read in order to make sense; when listening to it initially with JAWS, just a couple of items were read out of order so I attempted to clean that up (am in Office 2010 for Windows); according to Microsoft?s help site I should fix the reading order using Arrange>Selection Pane. When I viewed the reading order it was NOTHING like what I was hearing with JAWS ? it looked completely random, despite the fact that JAWS was doing a pretty good job with the page. Well, I ?fixed? the reading order in Selection Pane and now the slide is read as complete gibberish by JAWS ? nothing is in order. Yes, I still have a copy of the original file and can go back, or I can re-create the slide from scratch, but does anyone have a suggestion for how to reliably repair reading order in PPT slides? > > Thanks for your ideas, > Teresa > > Teresa Haven, Ph.D. > Accessibility Analyst > Northern Arizona University > (928) 523-6042 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgershman at pima.edu Tue Apr 8 11:26:14 2014 From: cgershman at pima.edu (Gershman, Cindy) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <324BBD47-A9F2-4435-AE32-BA9506418158@pdx.edu> References: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E8D8F@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CC840C9@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E977B@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> <324BBD47-A9F2-4435-AE32-BA9506418158@pdx.edu> Message-ID: HI Angel, Would you mind breaking that down as if for a 5-year-old? I really know nothing about Google mail. Thanks for any help, -Cindy Cindy Gershman Advanced Program Coordinator, Alt Format Disabled Student Resources Pima Community College Tucson, AZ 520-206-6688 cgershman@pima.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Angel Chesimet Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:52 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint A quick and easy fix to power points for jaws is to send it through Google mail. If you attach it to an email and open it using Google mail it gives you an option to converted to HTML. It's very clean and easy to read from then on. At this point you can also copy and paste it into word for editing during lectures. Angel Chesimet Graduate Candidate Spring, 2015 Clinical Rehabilitation Counseling Portland State University Mobile: 503-470-2626 On Apr 8, 2014, at 8:10 AM, Teresa Haven > wrote: Thanks, Paul. Karen also let me know that in a private email. What baffles me is the fact that JAWS was reading a couple of slides in almost perfect order, despite the reading order in the Selection Pane being completely different (and not just backwards of what I would have expected). Cheers, Teresa From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Paul E. Paire Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 8:02 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint Teresa, Don?t miss that the reading order is bottom up in the Selection pane, not top down like you?d expect. -Paul From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 3:54 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint Greetings, all. I?m attempting to retrofit a PPT presentation created by a colleague who, until recently, was unfamiliar with accessibility needs. This particular presentation has been a work in progress for many years and across many versions of PPT. One slide in particular has a lot of separate text elements that need to be read in order to make sense; when listening to it initially with JAWS, just a couple of items were read out of order so I attempted to clean that up (am in Office 2010 for Windows); according to Microsoft?s help site I should fix the reading order using Arrange>Selection Pane. When I viewed the reading order it was NOTHING like what I was hearing with JAWS ? it looked completely random, despite the fact that JAWS was doing a pretty good job with the page. Well, I ?fixed? the reading order in Selection Pane and now the slide is read as complete gibberish by JAWS ? nothing is in order. Yes, I still have a copy of the original file and can go back, or I can re-create the slide from scratch, but does anyone have a suggestion for how to reliably repair reading order in PPT slides? Thanks for your ideas, Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst Northern Arizona University (928) 523-6042 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ache2 at pdx.edu Tue Apr 8 12:03:11 2014 From: ache2 at pdx.edu (Angel Chesimet) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint In-Reply-To: References: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E8D8F@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CC840C9@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E977B@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> <324BBD47-A9F2-4435-AE32-BA9506418158@pdx.edu> Message-ID: :) sure. You attach the PowerPoint and send it to a Gmail account. You go to the web based version of Gmail to open the email with the attachment. When you open it there will be options to open as HTML or download and save it. You click the HTML option and it will open another browser page with the PowerPoint broken down as HTML. Because I am a jaws user I have my Gmail account set up as basic view so this might be something you would do to receive the attachment options. I'm not sure if the same options are offered in standard view Gmail web-based accounts. Angel Chesimet Graduate Candidate Spring, 2015 Clinical Rehabilitation Counseling Portland State University Mobile: 503-470-2626 > On Apr 8, 2014, at 11:26 AM, "Gershman, Cindy" wrote: > > HI Angel, > Would you mind breaking that down as if for a 5-year-old? I really know nothing about Google mail. > Thanks for any help, > -Cindy > > Cindy Gershman > Advanced Program Coordinator, Alt Format > Disabled Student Resources > Pima Community College > Tucson, AZ > 520-206-6688 > cgershman@pima.edu > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Angel Chesimet > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:52 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint > > A quick and easy fix to power points for jaws is to send it through Google mail. If you attach it to an email and open it using Google mail it gives you an option to converted to HTML. It's very clean and easy to read from then on. At this point you can also copy and paste it into word for editing during lectures. > > Angel Chesimet > Graduate Candidate Spring, 2015 > Clinical Rehabilitation Counseling > Portland State University > Mobile: 503-470-2626 > > On Apr 8, 2014, at 8:10 AM, Teresa Haven wrote: > > Thanks, Paul. Karen also let me know that in a private email. What baffles me is the fact that JAWS was reading a couple of slides in almost perfect order, despite the reading order in the Selection Pane being completely different (and not just backwards of what I would have expected). > Cheers, > Teresa > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Paul E. Paire > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 8:02 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint > > Teresa, > > Don?t miss that the reading order is bottom up in the Selection pane, not top down like you?d expect. > > -Paul > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 3:54 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) > Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint > > Greetings, all. I?m attempting to retrofit a PPT presentation created by a colleague who, until recently, was unfamiliar with accessibility needs. This particular presentation has been a work in progress for many years and across many versions of PPT. One slide in particular has a lot of separate text elements that need to be read in order to make sense; when listening to it initially with JAWS, just a couple of items were read out of order so I attempted to clean that up (am in Office 2010 for Windows); according to Microsoft?s help site I should fix the reading order using Arrange>Selection Pane. When I viewed the reading order it was NOTHING like what I was hearing with JAWS ? it looked completely random, despite the fact that JAWS was doing a pretty good job with the page. Well, I ?fixed? the reading order in Selection Pane and now the slide is read as complete gibberish by JAWS ? nothing is in order. Yes, I still have a copy of the original file and can go back, or I can re-create the slide from scratch, but does anyone have a suggestion for how to reliably repair reading order in PPT slides? > > Thanks for your ideas, > Teresa > > Teresa Haven, Ph.D. > Accessibility Analyst > Northern Arizona University > (928) 523-6042 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ea at emptech.info Tue Apr 8 13:09:43 2014 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A.Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint In-Reply-To: References: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E8D8F@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CC840C9@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E977B@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> <324BBD47-A9F2-4435-AE32-BA9506418158@pdx.edu> Message-ID: <020b01cf5366$7cd8db30$768a9190$@emptech.info> This is a lovely strategy ? please may I put it on LexDis? http://www.lexdis.org.uk/ I am just wondering if you get any joy with images, shapes, smart art and graphs when you have done the conversion - I suspect the person who has made the slides needs to be aware of the alt text provision as they add the items. I really miss LecShare and still use the old version to check slides for accessibility. There are still some sites offering a download. Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan WAIS, ECS , University of Southampton Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 Mobile +44 (0)7976 289103 http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Angel Chesimet Sent: 08 April 2014 20:03 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Cc: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint :) sure. You attach the PowerPoint and send it to a Gmail account. You go to the web based version of Gmail to open the email with the attachment. When you open it there will be options to open as HTML or download and save it. You click the HTML option and it will open another browser page with the PowerPoint broken down as HTML. Because I am a jaws user I have my Gmail account set up as basic view so this might be something you would do to receive the attachment options. I'm not sure if the same options are offered in standard view Gmail web-based accounts. Angel Chesimet Graduate Candidate Spring, 2015 Clinical Rehabilitation Counseling Portland State University Mobile: 503-470-2626 On Apr 8, 2014, at 11:26 AM, "Gershman, Cindy" wrote: HI Angel, Would you mind breaking that down as if for a 5-year-old? I really know nothing about Google mail. Thanks for any help, -Cindy Cindy Gershman Advanced Program Coordinator, Alt Format Disabled Student Resources Pima Community College Tucson, AZ 520-206-6688 cgershman@pima.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Angel Chesimet Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:52 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint A quick and easy fix to power points for jaws is to send it through Google mail. If you attach it to an email and open it using Google mail it gives you an option to converted to HTML. It's very clean and easy to read from then on. At this point you can also copy and paste it into word for editing during lectures. Angel Chesimet Graduate Candidate Spring, 2015 Clinical Rehabilitation Counseling Portland State University Mobile: 503-470-2626 On Apr 8, 2014, at 8:10 AM, Teresa Haven wrote: Thanks, Paul. Karen also let me know that in a private email. What baffles me is the fact that JAWS was reading a couple of slides in almost perfect order, despite the reading order in the Selection Pane being completely different (and not just backwards of what I would have expected). Cheers, Teresa From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Paul E. Paire Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 8:02 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint Teresa, Don?t miss that the reading order is bottom up in the Selection pane, not top down like you?d expect. -Paul From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 3:54 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint Greetings, all. I?m attempting to retrofit a PPT presentation created by a colleague who, until recently, was unfamiliar with accessibility needs. This particular presentation has been a work in progress for many years and across many versions of PPT. One slide in particular has a lot of separate text elements that need to be read in order to make sense; when listening to it initially with JAWS, just a couple of items were read out of order so I attempted to clean that up (am in Office 2010 for Windows); according to Microsoft?s help site I should fix the reading order using Arrange>Selection Pane. When I viewed the reading order it was NOTHING like what I was hearing with JAWS ? it looked completely random, despite the fact that JAWS was doing a pretty good job with the page. Well, I ?fixed? the reading order in Selection Pane and now the slide is read as complete gibberish by JAWS ? nothing is in order. Yes, I still have a copy of the original file and can go back, or I can re-create the slide from scratch, but does anyone have a suggestion for how to reliably repair reading order in PPT slides? Thanks for your ideas, Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst Northern Arizona University (928) 523-6042 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer at colorado.edu Tue Apr 8 20:55:25 2014 From: hkramer at colorado.edu (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] youtube captioning question Message-ID: Does anyone know if youtube autocaptions has changed? I uploaded a short video to my account but the only option I see is to do manual captions (with an amara-like tool) or to upload a transcript for syncing. I thought the captioning might be done automatically but the video has been up for a couple of days and no captioning has appeared. Any help on this would be appreciated. -Howard -- Howard Kramer CO-PI - UDUC *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula*(UDUC) Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhayman at u.washington.edu Wed Apr 9 08:55:38 2014 From: dhayman at u.washington.edu (Doug Hayman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] youtube captioning question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Howard, Man, I had to look for a while because they don't make finding the toggle very easy. Perhaps this isn't the one you're looking for but when logged on to your youtube account go to: www.youtube.com/account_playback then click the "playback" choice under Account Settings menu and then on that page are some checkboxes for Captions. Perhaps that will trigger it to do the automatic captioning. Doug Hayman Senior Computer Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Howard Kramer wrote: > Does anyone know if youtube autocaptions has changed? I uploaded a short > video to my account but the only option I see is to do manual captions > (with an amara-like tool) or to upload a transcript for syncing. I thought > the captioning might be done automatically but the video has been up for a > couple of days and no captioning has appeared. Any help on this would be > appreciated. > > -Howard > > -- > Howard Kramer > CO-PI - UDUC > *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula*(UDUC) > Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin > 303-492-8672 > cell: 720-351-8668 > From hkramer at ahead.org Wed Apr 9 10:11:07 2014 From: hkramer at ahead.org (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] youtube captioning question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Doug. I made that change. So far I don't see any changes in the captioning options but we'll see. Seems like you also don't have the choice for requesting automatic captioning on other videos. For example, the clip on David Letterman's retirement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5sVI_-LRCI) doesn't have captioning and there's no option - as far as I can see - to add them. So it seems like there's been some type of change in policy/setup regarding auto-captions on YouTube but no announcement or information about it anywhere. Regards, Howard On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Doug Hayman wrote: > Howard, > > Man, I had to look for a while because they don't make finding the toggle > very easy. Perhaps this isn't the one you're looking for but when logged > on to your youtube account go to: > > www.youtube.com/account_playback > > then click the "playback" choice under Account Settings menu > > and then on that page are some checkboxes for Captions. Perhaps that will > trigger it to do the automatic captioning. > > > > Doug Hayman > Senior Computer Specialist > DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) > UW Technology Services > Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > (206) 221-4165 > http://www.washington.edu/doit > > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Howard Kramer wrote: > > Does anyone know if youtube autocaptions has changed? I uploaded a short >> video to my account but the only option I see is to do manual captions >> (with an amara-like tool) or to upload a transcript for syncing. I thought >> the captioning might be done automatically but the video has been up for a >> couple of days and no captioning has appeared. Any help on this would be >> appreciated. >> >> -Howard >> >> -- >> Howard Kramer >> CO-PI - UDUC >> *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University >> Curricula*(UDUC) >> >> Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin >> 303-492-8672 >> cell: 720-351-8668 >> >> _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at nau.edu Wed Apr 9 10:18:36 2014 From: Teresa.Haven at nau.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] youtube captioning question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9EA85A@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Hi, Howard. I found this relatively recent statement about automatic captions and when they might not appear: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3038280?hl=en Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst Northern Arizona University (928) 523-6042 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:11 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] youtube captioning question Thanks Doug. I made that change. So far I don't see any changes in the captioning options but we'll see. Seems like you also don't have the choice for requesting automatic captioning on other videos. For example, the clip on David Letterman's retirement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5sVI_-LRCI) doesn't have captioning and there's no option - as far as I can see - to add them. So it seems like there's been some type of change in policy/setup regarding auto-captions on YouTube but no announcement or information about it anywhere. Regards, Howard On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Doug Hayman > wrote: Howard, Man, I had to look for a while because they don't make finding the toggle very easy. Perhaps this isn't the one you're looking for but when logged on to your youtube account go to: www.youtube.com/account_playback then click the "playback" choice under Account Settings menu and then on that page are some checkboxes for Captions. Perhaps that will trigger it to do the automatic captioning. Doug Hayman > Senior Computer Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Howard Kramer wrote: Does anyone know if youtube autocaptions has changed? I uploaded a short video to my account but the only option I see is to do manual captions (with an amara-like tool) or to upload a transcript for syncing. I thought the captioning might be done automatically but the video has been up for a couple of days and no captioning has appeared. Any help on this would be appreciated. -Howard -- Howard Kramer CO-PI - UDUC *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula*(UDUC) Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhayman at u.washington.edu Wed Apr 9 10:24:54 2014 From: dhayman at u.washington.edu (Doug Hayman) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] youtube captioning question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Howard, I don't get why they'd want/have a "no captioning even if you'd want it as a viewer" setting. Makes no sense. We'd seen the same for one of the upper-level UW youtube pages where it appeared that it had been toggled off and couldn't be turned on by the user. If you go into your video channel and pick that video then start the process of editing/creating captions does it then make your automatic one? Doug Hayman Senior Computer Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit On Wed, 9 Apr 2014, Howard Kramer wrote: > Thanks Doug. I made that change. So far I don't see any changes in the > captioning options but we'll see. > > Seems like you also don't have the choice for requesting automatic > captioning on other videos. For example, the clip on David Letterman's > retirement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5sVI_-LRCI) doesn't have > captioning and there's no option - as far as I can see - to add them. So it > seems like there's been some type of change in policy/setup regarding > auto-captions on YouTube but no announcement or information about it > anywhere. > > Regards, > Howard > > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Doug Hayman wrote: > >> Howard, >> >> Man, I had to look for a while because they don't make finding the toggle >> very easy. Perhaps this isn't the one you're looking for but when logged >> on to your youtube account go to: >> >> www.youtube.com/account_playback >> >> then click the "playback" choice under Account Settings menu >> >> and then on that page are some checkboxes for Captions. Perhaps that will >> trigger it to do the automatic captioning. >> >> >> >> Doug Hayman >> Senior Computer Specialist >> DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) >> UW Technology Services >> Box 354842 >> Seattle, WA 98195 >> (206) 221-4165 >> http://www.washington.edu/doit >> >> >> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Howard Kramer wrote: >> >> Does anyone know if youtube autocaptions has changed? I uploaded a short >>> video to my account but the only option I see is to do manual captions >>> (with an amara-like tool) or to upload a transcript for syncing. I thought >>> the captioning might be done automatically but the video has been up for a >>> couple of days and no captioning has appeared. Any help on this would be >>> appreciated. >>> >>> -Howard >>> >>> -- >>> Howard Kramer >>> CO-PI - UDUC >>> *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University >>> Curricula*(UDUC) >>> >>> Lecturer, Cont. Ed - Evening & Cred Admin >>> 303-492-8672 >>> cell: 720-351-8668 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > > > > -- > Howard Kramer > Conference Coordinator > Accessing Higher Ground > 303-492-8672 > cell: 720-351-8668 > > AHEAD Association of Higher Education and Disability > From hkramer at ahead.org Wed Apr 9 12:06:00 2014 From: hkramer at ahead.org (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] youtube captioning question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Doug, I haven't tried that yet - I'll give it a shot. -Howard On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Doug Hayman wrote: > Howard, > > I don't get why they'd want/have a "no captioning even if you'd want it as > a viewer" setting. Makes no sense. > > We'd seen the same for one of the upper-level UW youtube pages where it > appeared that it had been toggled off and couldn't be turned on by the user. > > If you go into your video channel and pick that video then start the > process of editing/creating captions does it then make your automatic one? > > > > > Doug Hayman > Senior Computer Specialist > DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) > UW Technology Services > Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > (206) 221-4165 > http://www.washington.edu/doit > > On Wed, 9 Apr 2014, Howard Kramer wrote: > > Thanks Doug. I made that change. So far I don't see any changes in the >> captioning options but we'll see. >> >> Seems like you also don't have the choice for requesting automatic >> captioning on other videos. For example, the clip on David Letterman's >> retirement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5sVI_-LRCI) doesn't have >> captioning and there's no option - as far as I can see - to add them. So >> it >> seems like there's been some type of change in policy/setup regarding >> auto-captions on YouTube but no announcement or information about it >> anywhere. >> >> Regards, >> Howard >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Doug Hayman >> wrote: >> >> Howard, >>> >>> Man, I had to look for a while because they don't make finding the toggle >>> very easy. Perhaps this isn't the one you're looking for but when logged >>> on to your youtube account go to: >>> >>> www.youtube.com/account_playback >>> >>> then click the "playback" choice under Account Settings menu >>> >>> and then on that page are some checkboxes for Captions. Perhaps that >>> will >>> trigger it to do the automatic captioning. >>> >>> >>> >>> Doug Hayman >>> Senior Computer Specialist >>> DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) >>> UW Technology Services >>> Box 354842 >>> Seattle, WA 98195 >>> (206) 221-4165 >>> http://www.washington.edu/doit >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Howard Kramer wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know if youtube autocaptions has changed? I uploaded a short >>> >>>> video to my account but the only option I see is to do manual captions >>>> (with an amara-like tool) or to upload a transcript for syncing. I >>>> thought >>>> the captioning might be done automatically but the video has been up >>>> for a >>>> couple of days and no captioning has appeared. Any help on this would be >>>> appreciated. >>>> >>>> -Howard >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Howard Kramer >>>> CO-PI - UDUC >>>> *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University >>>> Curricula*(UDUC) >>>> >>>> Lecturer, Cont. 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URL: From hkramer at ahead.org Wed Apr 9 12:05:10 2014 From: hkramer at ahead.org (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] youtube captioning question In-Reply-To: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9EA85A@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> References: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9EA85A@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Message-ID: Hi Teresa, Yes, I saw that statement. I think the sound quality is decent on the video (perhaps a little background noise) I uploaded but I may try others just to test. It would be nice if the system provided feedback that the video was rejected. Otherwise, it's just a guessing game. Thanks, Howard On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Teresa Haven wrote: > Hi, Howard. I found this relatively recent statement about automatic > captions and when they might not appear: > > https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3038280?hl=en > > > > Teresa > > > > Teresa Haven, Ph.D. > > Accessibility Analyst > > Northern Arizona University > > (928) 523-6042 > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Howard Kramer > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:11 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] youtube captioning question > > > > Thanks Doug. I made that change. So far I don't see any changes in the > captioning options but we'll see. > > > > Seems like you also don't have the choice for requesting automatic > captioning on other videos. For example, the clip on David Letterman's > retirement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5sVI_-LRCI) doesn't have > captioning and there's no option - as far as I can see - to add them. So it > seems like there's been some type of change in policy/setup regarding > auto-captions on YouTube but no announcement or information about it > anywhere. > > > > Regards, > > Howard > > > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Doug Hayman > wrote: > > Howard, > > Man, I had to look for a while because they don't make finding the toggle > very easy. Perhaps this isn't the one you're looking for but when logged > on to your youtube account go to: > > www.youtube.com/account_playback > > then click the "playback" choice under Account Settings menu > > and then on that page are some checkboxes for Captions. Perhaps that will > trigger it to do the automatic captioning. > > > > Doug Hayman > Senior Computer Specialist > DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) > UW Technology Services > Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > (206) 221-4165 > http://www.washington.edu/doit > > > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Howard Kramer wrote: > > Does anyone know if youtube autocaptions has changed? I uploaded a short > video to my account but the only option I see is to do manual captions > (with an amara-like tool) or to upload a transcript for syncing. I thought > the captioning might be done automatically but the video has been up for a > couple of days and no captioning has appeared. Any help on this would be > appreciated. > > -Howard > > -- > Howard Kramer > CO-PI - UDUC > > *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University > Curricula*(UDUC) > > > Lecturer, Cont. 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Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hamman, Melanie Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:11 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Alt Text Repository Software I am asking people that provide Alternative Text Services do you use a secured repository to house your electronic books for the students to get their book remotely? If so , what software are you using to support that service. Thank you, Melanie Morel Adaptive Technology Specialist Access Center & Testing Services Metro State University of Denver Plaza Suite 122 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rsthompson2 at ua.edu Thu Apr 10 07:11:33 2014 From: rsthompson2 at ua.edu (Shuttlesworth, Rachel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Alt Text Repository Software In-Reply-To: <129c2f01cf542a$c0410540$40c30fc0$@uci.edu> Message-ID: We use the Content Collection in Blackboard Learn; our students are already in Blackboard frequently. Our area (Center for Instructional Technology) created an alt-text account for our Office of Disability Services staff. We made the folder visible to everyone on our campus, but when files are uploaded by ODS, they are shared with the individual student only. This allows ODS to remove access when no longer needed and gives some tracking showing if the files have been accessed. If anyone wants more info or wants steps to give your Blackboard admin, let me know. Rachel Dr. Rachel S. Thompson Director, Emerging Technology and Accessibility Center for Instructional Technology University of Alabama http://accessibility.ua.edu May 12-13, 2014 | UA System Scholars Institute | http://scholarsinstitute.ua.edu From: Robert Espero > Reply-To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Date: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 at 2:34 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Alt Text Repository Software Dropbox has been useful for us.. Robert Espero UD & Technology Manager UC Irvine Disability Services Center From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hamman, Melanie Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:11 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Alt Text Repository Software I am asking people that provide Alternative Text Services do you use a secured repository to house your electronic books for the students to get their book remotely? If so , what software are you using to support that service. Thank you, Melanie Morel Adaptive Technology Specialist Access Center & Testing Services Metro State University of Denver Plaza Suite 122 From jbailey at uoregon.edu Thu Apr 10 13:48:01 2014 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Siteimprove Message-ID: Hello All: I hope you're all having a great day. I'm posting to find out if anyone is using Siteimprove on their campuses to check web accessibility. If so, I'm interested in your thoughts on the product. Thanks, James James Bailey M.S. Associate Director Accessible Education Center University of Oregon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Keith.Bundy at dsu.edu Thu Apr 10 14:09:31 2014 From: Keith.Bundy at dsu.edu (Bundy, Keith) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Siteimprove In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, James and all. Dakota State University has used SiteImprove and has had very good success! Kevin Rydberg does a great job heading up their accessibility unit, and I actually do some consulting with Kevin from time to time. Keith Bundy, MS Dakota State University Phone: 605-256-5121 Email: keith.bundy@dsu.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:48 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Siteimprove Hello All: I hope you're all having a great day. I'm posting to find out if anyone is using Siteimprove on their campuses to check web accessibility. If so, I'm interested in your thoughts on the product. Thanks, James James Bailey M.S. Associate Director Accessible Education Center University of Oregon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Makes no sense. >> >> We'd seen the same for one of the upper-level UW youtube pages where it >> appeared that it had been toggled off and couldn't be turned on by the user. >> >> If you go into your video channel and pick that video then start the >> process of editing/creating captions does it then make your automatic one? >> >> >> >> >> Doug Hayman >> Senior Computer Specialist >> DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) >> UW Technology Services >> Box 354842 >> Seattle, WA 98195 >> (206) 221-4165 >> http://www.washington.edu/doit >> >> On Wed, 9 Apr 2014, Howard Kramer wrote: >> >> Thanks Doug. I made that change. So far I don't see any changes in the >>> captioning options but we'll see. >>> >>> Seems like you also don't have the choice for requesting automatic >>> captioning on other videos. For example, the clip on David Letterman's >>> retirement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5sVI_-LRCI) doesn't have >>> captioning and there's no option - as far as I can see - to add them. So >>> it >>> seems like there's been some type of change in policy/setup regarding >>> auto-captions on YouTube but no announcement or information about it >>> anywhere. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Howard >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Doug Hayman >>> wrote: >>> >>> Howard, >>>> >>>> Man, I had to look for a while because they don't make finding the >>>> toggle >>>> very easy. Perhaps this isn't the one you're looking for but when >>>> logged >>>> on to your youtube account go to: >>>> >>>> www.youtube.com/account_playback >>>> >>>> then click the "playback" choice under Account Settings menu >>>> >>>> and then on that page are some checkboxes for Captions. Perhaps that >>>> will >>>> trigger it to do the automatic captioning. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Doug Hayman >>>> Senior Computer Specialist >>>> DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) >>>> UW Technology Services >>>> Box 354842 >>>> Seattle, WA 98195 >>>> (206) 221-4165 >>>> http://www.washington.edu/doit >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Howard Kramer wrote: >>>> >>>> Does anyone know if youtube autocaptions has changed? I uploaded a >>>> short >>>> >>>>> video to my account but the only option I see is to do manual captions >>>>> (with an amara-like tool) or to upload a transcript for syncing. I >>>>> thought >>>>> the captioning might be done automatically but the video has been up >>>>> for a >>>>> couple of days and no captioning has appeared. 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We make it a community effort in that we ask units to contribute budget funds toward purchasing the right to use it; once we have collected what we can, our Access Technology Services unit pays the balance. Sheryl ------------------------------------------------------------ Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu On Apr 10, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Karen Sorensen wrote: > Hi James, > Our college web team uses Site Improve. I think they're pleased with it. As you know it checks a lot more than just accessibility. The draw back (at least for me) is that it doesn't work on password protected sites, so we can't use it for our LMS. > For our LMS, we use Sortsite. > Hope that helps. 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Greg -- Greg Kraus University IT Accessibility Coordinator NC State University 919.513.4087 gdkraus@ncsu.edu http://go.ncsu.edu/itaccess From catherine at csmlearn.com Fri Apr 11 13:43:20 2014 From: catherine at csmlearn.com (Catherine Weldon) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] regarding course registration and selection of accessible version Message-ID: Dear all, Great listserv. As a relative newbie to the broader issues this list addresses regarding accessibility, I've learned a bunch, and have reviewed archives in hopes of not asking already answered questions. Our organization is pursuing technical assistance toward accessibility, and have met some wonderful people via this listserv who may assist us. I appreciate input from willing contributors on a topic I'm not finding addressed in the accessibility literature. My questions are below. If they are not appropriate for this group's attention, I will understand.. and I hope not to be intruding. BACKGROUND CSMlearn is a freely available web-based course providing a remarkably successful method of mastering core literacy and numeracy skills while building the student's confidence, persistence, and ability to learn on their own. We have clients in workforce centers, high schools, and colleges across the U.S. We offer a certificate demonstrating acquisition of specific skills. QUESTIONS * Teachers or administrators are responsible for adding student accounts in our application. * Is there guidance on the registration process whereby a teacher would select an accessible version of a product for a student? Where can I read about this? * We assume that employers would refer to an employee's accommodations to identify if they require an accommodation, and we expect in education that teacher would refer to a student's IEP or ADA accommodations. True? * Is there language that is accepted in the community for such purpose, something like: "You have selected a version of CSM that meets Section 508 standards and is appropriate for use by individuals with disabilities." * Individuals can register for CSM as well. * Is there guidance regarding self-identification of disabilities upon registration for a web-based training program that will result in certification? * Whereas teachers, administrators or workplace training coordinators would be asked to identify the correct course option for individuals with disabilities (and those entities have supporting documentation in hand in order to make that determination), we're not sure how to "verify" the appropriateness of the selection when the course taker is an individual. These questions are based on concerns that while we aim to provide "Equivalent access" and content, we may be providing "Alternative access" in enough cases - and for a period of time during our development of accessible content - such that the accessible version may actually be easier to pass. If the relative ease became common knowledge and students signed up for it inappropriately, we may have no way of preventing this (oh, I hope to have explained our team's concern well and not sound really lame :)). Feel free to respond to me personally, and again I appreciate your input. Catherine Weldon Apprion, LLC 3015 E. 47th Street, Suite E-4 Boulder, CO 80301 (303) 862-7233 catherine@apprion.org www.csmlearn.com ************************ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg_kraus at ncsu.edu Fri Apr 11 13:51:09 2014 From: greg_kraus at ncsu.edu (Greg Kraus) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <020b01cf5366$7cd8db30$768a9190$@emptech.info> References: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E8D8F@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CC840C9@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E977B@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> <324BBD47-A9F2-4435-AE32-BA9506418158@pdx.edu> <020b01cf5366$7cd8db30$768a9190$@emptech.info> Message-ID: Back in my LecShare days, what I always told people was that the reading order would be determined by the order items were created on the slide. Placing an item on a slide naturally places it in the layering order, however, at that point I was never convinced that simply changing the layer would change the reading order too. There are other properties of objects on slides that I think might influence the reading order as well, and those properties are not available to users unless you are accessing the presentation through the API. With LecShare, I never touched the layering order because that could also impact the way a slide looked visually. Altering the layers could make something lie over top of another item that it wasn't supposed to. Just as a note, for LecShare I built my own data structure internal to PowerPoint to store the values of what order the slide items SHOULD be read in instead of relying on PowerPoint to ever tell me what order it thought they should be read in. If what you are doing are per Microsoft's instructions and it's not working, there are so many variables that could be in play here that the only thing I could say would work with a reasonable degree of confidence is to rebuild the slide in the correct order. I don't know if it would help or not, but I could send you a copy of LecShare Lite which will convert it to accessible HTML. I did stop supporting LecShare a while ago, so there could be some configuration issues. It will only work with Windows 7. Greg -- Greg Kraus University IT Accessibility Coordinator NC State University 919.513.4087 gdkraus@ncsu.edu http://go.ncsu.edu/itaccess On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:09 PM, E.A.Draffan wrote: > This is a lovely strategy - please may I put it on LexDis? > http://www.lexdis.org.uk/ > > > > I am just wondering if you get any joy with images, shapes, smart art and > graphs when you have done the conversion - I suspect the person who has made > the slides needs to be aware of the alt text provision as they add the > items. > > > > I really miss LecShare and still use the old version to check slides for > accessibility. There are still some sites offering a download. > > > > Best wishes > > E.A. > > > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > > WAIS, ECS , University of Southampton > > Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 > > Mobile +44 (0)7976 289103 > > http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk > > http://www.emptech.info > > > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On > Behalf Of Angel Chesimet > Sent: 08 April 2014 20:03 > > > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Cc: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint > > > > :) sure. You attach the PowerPoint and send it to a Gmail account. You go to > the web based version of Gmail to open the email with the attachment. When > you open it there will be options to open as HTML or download and save it. > You click the HTML option and it will open another browser page with the > PowerPoint broken down as HTML. Because I am a jaws user I have my Gmail > account set up as basic view so this might be something you would do to > receive the attachment options. I'm not sure if the same options are offered > in standard view Gmail web-based accounts. > > Angel Chesimet > > Graduate Candidate Spring, 2015 > > Clinical Rehabilitation Counseling > > Portland State University > > Mobile: 503-470-2626 > > > On Apr 8, 2014, at 11:26 AM, "Gershman, Cindy" wrote: > > HI Angel, > > Would you mind breaking that down as if for a 5-year-old? I really know > nothing about Google mail. > > Thanks for any help, > > -Cindy > > > > Cindy Gershman > > Advanced Program Coordinator, Alt Format > > Disabled Student Resources > > Pima Community College > > Tucson, AZ > > 520-206-6688 > > cgershman@pima.edu > > > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On > Behalf Of Angel Chesimet > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:52 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint > > > > A quick and easy fix to power points for jaws is to send it through Google > mail. If you attach it to an email and open it using Google mail it gives > you an option to converted to HTML. It's very clean and easy to read from > then on. At this point you can also copy and paste it into word for editing > during lectures. > > Angel Chesimet > > Graduate Candidate Spring, 2015 > > Clinical Rehabilitation Counseling > > Portland State University > > Mobile: 503-470-2626 > > > On Apr 8, 2014, at 8:10 AM, Teresa Haven wrote: > > Thanks, Paul. Karen also let me know that in a private email. What baffles > me is the fact that JAWS was reading a couple of slides in almost perfect > order, despite the reading order in the Selection Pane being completely > different (and not just backwards of what I would have expected). > > Cheers, > > Teresa > > > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On > Behalf Of Paul E. Paire > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 8:02 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint > > > > Teresa, > > > > Don't miss that the reading order is bottom up in the Selection pane, not > top down like you'd expect. > > > > -Paul > > > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On > Behalf Of Teresa Haven > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 3:54 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) > Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint > > > > Greetings, all. I'm attempting to retrofit a PPT presentation created by a > colleague who, until recently, was unfamiliar with accessibility needs. > This particular presentation has been a work in progress for many years and > across many versions of PPT. One slide in particular has a lot of separate > text elements that need to be read in order to make sense; when listening to > it initially with JAWS, just a couple of items were read out of order so I > attempted to clean that up (am in Office 2010 for Windows); according to > Microsoft's help site I should fix the reading order using Arrange>Selection > Pane. When I viewed the reading order it was NOTHING like what I was > hearing with JAWS - it looked completely random, despite the fact that JAWS > was doing a pretty good job with the page. Well, I "fixed" the reading > order in Selection Pane and now the slide is read as complete gibberish by > JAWS - nothing is in order. Yes, I still have a copy of the original file > and can go back, or I can re-create the slide from scratch, but does anyone > have a suggestion for how to reliably repair reading order in PPT slides? > > > > Thanks for your ideas, > > Teresa > > > > Teresa Haven, Ph.D. > > Accessibility Analyst > > Northern Arizona University > > (928) 523-6042 > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > From rsthompson2 at ua.edu Fri Apr 11 13:53:08 2014 From: rsthompson2 at ua.edu (Shuttlesworth, Rachel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] course inventory assessment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm working on something like this at UA now. Would love to see other examples and I will share what we develop in a couple of weeks. Dr. Rachel S. Thompson Director, Emerging Technology Center for Instructional Technology University of Alabama On Apr 11, 2014, at 3:40 PM, "Greg Kraus" wrote: > Hi All, > > Has anyone developed a guide or document to help faculty members > assess how much and what types of content they have in their course so > they can know what type of work might need to be done to make their > course accessible? I was thinking something along the lines of > inventorying how many electronic documents you have, and then breaking > that down into Word files vs. PDF files, then maybe even breaking > things like PDF down to scanned articles, "newsletter" type documents, > and converted Word docs. There could be other categories like > multimedia, third party web sites, and e-books. > > Thanks. > > Greg > -- > Greg Kraus > University IT Accessibility Coordinator > NC State University > 919.513.4087 > gdkraus@ncsu.edu > http://go.ncsu.edu/itaccess > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From jbailey at uoregon.edu Fri Apr 11 13:58:04 2014 From: jbailey at uoregon.edu (James Bailey) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] course inventory assessment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Greg: Could the LMS administrator gather file extension info by instructor, term, or course? Then all you have to differentiate is text based versus non in PDF files. James -- James Bailey M.S. Associate Director Accessible Education Center University of Oregon -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Kraus Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:37 PM To: ATHEN Subject: [Athen] course inventory assessment Hi All, Has anyone developed a guide or document to help faculty members assess how much and what types of content they have in their course so they can know what type of work might need to be done to make their course accessible? I was thinking something along the lines of inventorying how many electronic documents you have, and then breaking that down into Word files vs. PDF files, then maybe even breaking things like PDF down to scanned articles, "newsletter" type documents, and converted Word docs. There could be other categories like multimedia, third party web sites, and e-books. Thanks. 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URL: From ea at emptech.info Fri Apr 11 15:06:47 2014 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A.Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint Message-ID: <000a01cf55d2$55e3a870$01aaf950$@emptech.info> Greg I am so sorry I had missed you on the list - please forgive me but I am successfully using LecShare Lite with Windows 8.1 with my old ppt and new pptx files! The reading order seems to work best when the PowerPoint templates are used as originally set out with no extra text boxes being added or smart art etc. Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan WAIS, ECS , University of Southampton Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 Mobile +44 (0)7976 289103 http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From Teresa.Haven at nau.edu Mon Apr 14 07:04:55 2014 From: Teresa.Haven at nau.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint In-Reply-To: References: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E8D8F@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CC840C9@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9E977B@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> <324BBD47-A9F2-4435-AE32-BA9506418158@pdx.edu> <020b01cf5366$7cd8db30$768a9190$@emptech.info> Message-ID: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9ECB7B@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Thanks, Greg, I'd be happy to try it. I'm still working in Windows 7. Cheers, Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst Northern Arizona University (928) 523-6042 -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Kraus Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:51 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint Back in my LecShare days, what I always told people was that the reading order would be determined by the order items were created on the slide. Placing an item on a slide naturally places it in the layering order, however, at that point I was never convinced that simply changing the layer would change the reading order too. There are other properties of objects on slides that I think might influence the reading order as well, and those properties are not available to users unless you are accessing the presentation through the API. With LecShare, I never touched the layering order because that could also impact the way a slide looked visually. Altering the layers could make something lie over top of another item that it wasn't supposed to. Just as a note, for LecShare I built my own data structure internal to PowerPoint to store the values of what order the slide items SHOULD be read in instead of relying on PowerPoint to ever tell me what order it thought they should be read in. If what you are doing are per Microsoft's instructions and it's not working, there are so many variables that could be in play here that the only thing I could say would work with a reasonable degree of confidence is to rebuild the slide in the correct order. I don't know if it would help or not, but I could send you a copy of LecShare Lite which will convert it to accessible HTML. I did stop supporting LecShare a while ago, so there could be some configuration issues. It will only work with Windows 7. Greg -- Greg Kraus University IT Accessibility Coordinator NC State University 919.513.4087 gdkraus@ncsu.edu http://go.ncsu.edu/itaccess On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:09 PM, E.A.Draffan wrote: > This is a lovely strategy - please may I put it on LexDis? > http://www.lexdis.org.uk/ > > > > I am just wondering if you get any joy with images, shapes, smart art > and graphs when you have done the conversion - I suspect the person > who has made the slides needs to be aware of the alt text provision as > they add the items. > > > > I really miss LecShare and still use the old version to check slides > for accessibility. There are still some sites offering a download. > > > > Best wishes > > E.A. > > > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > > WAIS, ECS , University of Southampton > > Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 > > Mobile +44 (0)7976 289103 > > http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk > > http://www.emptech.info > > > > From: athen-list > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of > Angel Chesimet > Sent: 08 April 2014 20:03 > > > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Cc: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint > > > > :) sure. You attach the PowerPoint and send it to a Gmail account. You > go to the web based version of Gmail to open the email with the > attachment. When you open it there will be options to open as HTML or download and save it. > You click the HTML option and it will open another browser page with > the PowerPoint broken down as HTML. Because I am a jaws user I have > my Gmail account set up as basic view so this might be something you > would do to receive the attachment options. I'm not sure if the same > options are offered in standard view Gmail web-based accounts. > > Angel Chesimet > > Graduate Candidate Spring, 2015 > > Clinical Rehabilitation Counseling > > Portland State University > > Mobile: 503-470-2626 > > > On Apr 8, 2014, at 11:26 AM, "Gershman, Cindy" wrote: > > HI Angel, > > Would you mind breaking that down as if for a 5-year-old? I really > know nothing about Google mail. > > Thanks for any help, > > -Cindy > > > > Cindy Gershman > > Advanced Program Coordinator, Alt Format > > Disabled Student Resources > > Pima Community College > > Tucson, AZ > > 520-206-6688 > > cgershman@pima.edu > > > > From: athen-list > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of > Angel Chesimet > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:52 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint > > > > A quick and easy fix to power points for jaws is to send it through > Google mail. If you attach it to an email and open it using Google > mail it gives you an option to converted to HTML. It's very clean and > easy to read from then on. At this point you can also copy and paste > it into word for editing during lectures. > > Angel Chesimet > > Graduate Candidate Spring, 2015 > > Clinical Rehabilitation Counseling > > Portland State University > > Mobile: 503-470-2626 > > > On Apr 8, 2014, at 8:10 AM, Teresa Haven wrote: > > Thanks, Paul. Karen also let me know that in a private email. What > baffles me is the fact that JAWS was reading a couple of slides in > almost perfect order, despite the reading order in the Selection Pane > being completely different (and not just backwards of what I would have expected). > > Cheers, > > Teresa > > > > From: athen-list > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of > Paul E. Paire > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 8:02 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint > > > > Teresa, > > > > Don't miss that the reading order is bottom up in the Selection pane, > not top down like you'd expect. > > > > -Paul > > > > From: athen-list > [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of > Teresa Haven > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 3:54 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > (athen-list@u.washington.edu) > Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint > > > > Greetings, all. I'm attempting to retrofit a PPT presentation created > by a colleague who, until recently, was unfamiliar with accessibility needs. > This particular presentation has been a work in progress for many > years and across many versions of PPT. One slide in particular has a > lot of separate text elements that need to be read in order to make > sense; when listening to it initially with JAWS, just a couple of > items were read out of order so I attempted to clean that up (am in > Office 2010 for Windows); according to Microsoft's help site I should > fix the reading order using Arrange>Selection Pane. When I viewed the > reading order it was NOTHING like what I was hearing with JAWS - it > looked completely random, despite the fact that JAWS was doing a > pretty good job with the page. Well, I "fixed" the reading order in > Selection Pane and now the slide is read as complete gibberish by JAWS > - nothing is in order. Yes, I still have a copy of the original file > and can go back, or I can re-create the slide from scratch, but does anyone have a suggestion for how to reliably repair reading order in PPT slides? > > > > Thanks for your ideas, > > Teresa > > > > Teresa Haven, Ph.D. > > Accessibility Analyst > > Northern Arizona University > > (928) 523-6042 > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From kcahill at MIT.EDU Mon Apr 14 08:01:54 2014 From: kcahill at MIT.EDU (Kathleen Cahill) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:41 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab Message-ID: Hi Susan, Here is the lab user agreement we ask our students to read and sign. Kathy Kathleen Cahill MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu From: Susan Kelmer > Reply-To: Access Network > Date: Monday, April 7, 2014 at 1:31 PM To: "dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu" >, Access Network > Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab For those of you with an adaptive/assistive tech lab for student use?we are in the process of writing a few new policies, and wondered what other people have in place as far as policy in their lab. Would love to see them if you have them. Thanks. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm wondering if any of you have experience with supporting screen-reader-based use of the Inkling ebook platform in any way and can share what you've found. Are some aspects of the texts usable with screen readers? If you are interested in more details about what we're doing and why I'm asking, you can read on, but it isn't necessary: UW-Madison is continuing eTextbook experimentation and we are currently supporting creation of new texts by our own faculty that could be made openly available. We have several instructors with content and have been looking for a workflow to get that content produced in a nice flexible format that can be used on a variety of devices/readers, will make sense through screen-readers, and looks enough like commercially-published content to make authors happy. Yes, we know this is a big challenge, and we may end up phasing in our solutions. One of our front-running solutions is a product/platform called Inkling.They provide an authoring tool and store that delivers ebooks in their platform. The authoring tool creates HTML5/CSS3-based books with "enhancements." The tool is also fairly open and allows people to directly edit the HTML and CSS codes, so we're hoping it may allow us to develop nice (and accessible) templates that allow our authors to create content in the Inkling WYSIWYG editor (an accessible authoring tool that does the rest of what we need is unfortunately beyond our hopes at this stage). We will be able to output EPUB3 versions of the books we create and our real goal is to make sure that anything created in Inkling can be used equally well in non-Inkling platforms (eg: ADE, Azardi, Readium), but it's clear that at least some of their interactive features currently will break in other platforms. It's possible that our interim solution will be some compromise version of the books that link out to simpler standards-based versions of the interactive features alongside built-in interactivity that can only be used by people inside the Inkling platform (not great, I know). As we figure out what we can do in our version of these texts, and whether the Inkling tool is going to work for us at all, it would be helpful to have a better understanding of how usable their reader is, which is why I've come to all of you. Thanks in advance for anything you're able to share! and please feel free to contact me off-list if you have issues or suggestions better handled that way. Carrie ________________________ Carrie Nelson, Academic Librarian College Library, University of Wisconsin-Madison 600 North Park Street, Madison, WI 53706 cnelson@library.wisc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Inkling has been working with Lucy Greco, who works at UC Berkeley and provides accessibility testing as a side business. If you would like to contact Lucy, please contact me off-list and I will provide her contact info. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Carrie Nelson Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 9:55 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Inkling Hi All. I'm wondering if any of you have experience with supporting screen-reader-based use of the Inkling ebook platform in any way and can share what you've found. Are some aspects of the texts usable with screen readers? If you are interested in more details about what we're doing and why I'm asking, you can read on, but it isn't necessary: UW-Madison is continuing eTextbook experimentation and we are currently supporting creation of new texts by our own faculty that could be made openly available. We have several instructors with content and have been looking for a workflow to get that content produced in a nice flexible format that can be used on a variety of devices/readers, will make sense through screen-readers, and looks enough like commercially-published content to make authors happy. Yes, we know this is a big challenge, and we may end up phasing in our solutions. One of our front-running solutions is a product/platform called Inkling.They provide an authoring tool and store that delivers ebooks in their platform. The authoring tool creates HTML5/CSS3-based books with "enhancements." The tool is also fairly open and allows people to directly edit the HTML and CSS codes, so we're hoping it may allow us to develop nice (and accessible) templates that allow our authors to create content in the Inkling WYSIWYG editor (an accessible authoring tool that does the rest of what we need is unfortunately beyond our hopes at this stage). We will be able to output EPUB3 versions of the books we create and our real goal is to make sure that anything created in Inkling can be used equally well in non-Inkling platforms (eg: ADE, Azardi, Readium), but it's clear that at least some of their interactive features currently will break in other platforms. It's possible that our interim solution will be some compromise version of the books that link out to simpler standards-based versions of the interactive features alongside built-in interactivity that can only be used by people inside the Inkling platform (not great, I know). As we figure out what we can do in our version of these texts, and whether the Inkling tool is going to work for us at all, it would be helpful to have a better understanding of how usable their reader is, which is why I've come to all of you. Thanks in advance for anything you're able to share! and please feel free to contact me off-list if you have issues or suggestions better handled that way. Carrie ________________________ Carrie Nelson, Academic Librarian College Library, University of Wisconsin-Madison 600 North Park Street, Madison, WI 53706 cnelson@library.wisc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Mon Apr 14 10:34:57 2014 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] REPOST: Fabulous Job Opportunity Message-ID: <010101cf5807$db6fb420$924f1c60$@htctu.net> Subject: Fabulous Job Opportunity Dear Colleagues, Santa Rosa Junior College is re-opening the recruitment for a full-time, tenure track, faculty Disability Specialist to work in the beautiful wine country of California. This position was earlier posted with a Bilingual/Spanish requirement that has been changed to "preferred". Please share this post widely: http://www.santarosa.edu/hr/job-openings/show.php?id=1364 Faculty Employment Opportunities DISABILITY SPECIALIST Disability Resources EXTENDED PRIORITY FILING DEADLINE: Monday, April 28, 2014 (initial screening date; open until filled) GENERAL DESCRIPTION Santa Rosa Junior College is seeking an individual with demonstrated program development and advising skills to join an outstanding team of faculty, staff and instructional administrators to provide high quality services to our district, our community, and most importantly to our students. This categorically funded regular contract faculty position is assigned to the Santa Rosa Campus and begins August 2014. Appointments are contingent upon funding and Board approval. DEPARTMENT DESCRIPTION Faculty and staff in the Disability Resources Department provide a rich combination of support services and instruction to over 2,300 students with disabilities at Santa Rosa Junior College. The Disability Resources Department enjoys a collaborative, professional team approach to the administration of its programs. POSITION DESCRIPTION The Disability Specialist in this position is responsible for providing: advising, authorization of accommodations and services, disability management counseling and instruction to students with a wide range of disabilities. This Disability Specialist will have demonstrated cultural competence for the Hispanic population and serve as the anchor position to develop outreach, services and programming specific to the needs of Hispanic students with disabilities. SRJC offers courses and student services at two campuses, located in Santa Rosa and Petaluma, as well as multiple satellite locations within the District, including on-line. While this assignment is primarily at the Santa Rosa Campus, the District reserves the right of assignment to any location, and assignments can involve any combination of day or evening classes with weekly office hours being mandatory. Regular Faculty assume responsibility for maintaining currency in the field, for updating existing courses and developing new curricula (including courses that serve community needs, such as short, non-credit, or online courses), assisting in the assessment of student learning outcomes, participating in department activities and other college service such as committee work, managing laboratories, and participating in community outreach on behalf of the college. QUALIFICATIONS Required (Candidates must be qualified in one or more of the following categories as follows): Master's Degree in Rehabilitation Counseling; OR Master's Degree in Special Education AND twenty-four or more semester units in upper division or graduate level course work in Counseling, Guidance, Student Personnel, Psychology, or Social Work; OR Master's Degree in Counseling, Guidance, Student Personnel, Psychology, Career Development, or Social Welfare AND either twelve or more semester units in upper division or graduate level course work specifically in counseling or rehabilitation of individuals with disabilities OR two years of full-time experience, or the equivalent, in one or more of the following areas: Counseling or guidance for student with disabilities; OR Counseling and/or guidance in industry, government, public agencies, military or private social welfare organizations in which the responsibilities of the position were predominantly or exclusively for persons with disabilities; OR The equivalent. If you do not possess the minimum qualifications exactly as stated above, you must file for equivalency. If claiming equivalency, applicants are responsible for documenting all course work, degree programs and related professional experience at the time of application. Preferred: . Bilingual with Spanish and English abilities and demonstrated cultural competence for the Hispanic population. . Recent experience with adults with disabilities. . Program development and/or coordination experience. . Teaching experience at the secondary or post-secondary level. . Requires a sensitivity to, and understanding of, the diverse academic, socioeconomic, cultural, disability, and ethnic backgrounds of community college students. APPLICATION PROCEDURES In order to be given priority consideration for this position, applicants must submit AN ORIGINAL PLUS ONE COPY OF EACH of the following documents by the priority filing deadline: . A completed Santa Rosa Junior College Faculty Application Form, Personal Data Form and Applicant Notification Form. Personal Data Form is optional. . If applicable, completed Equivalency Form and supporting documents. . A cover letter explaining your interest in the position, including how you meet the requirements and are qualified to perform the duties as listed in the Position Description section of this announcement. . Include a statement describing your demonstrated experience in understanding and being sensitive to the diverse academic, socioeconomic, cultural, disability and ethnic backgrounds of community college students and staff. . Current Resume. . Write a description of an outreach program at SRJC that specifically addresses the needs of Hispanic students with disabilities at our college. The description should include: barriers to college access for this population, methods for conducting outreach to potential students, strategies for addressing barriers, beneficial services for this population, and approaches for collaborating with appropriate campus departments and community organizations. The description should be no more than 4 typed pages. . Copies of transcripts of all college level course work. Unofficial copies (both sides) are acceptable, but official transcripts must be submitted prior to hiring. If transcripts are from an institution outside of the United States, applicants must provide a formal evaluation of their foreign degree(s) at the time of application. Contact the Human Resources Department for more information. . If applicable, a copy of your California Community College Instructors Credential (both sides). PLEASE SUBMIT ONLY MATERIALS REQUESTED. (In loose-leaf form - no folders or binding please.) COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS Starting Salary Range: $57,389 - $80,918 per year (2013/14 Faculty Salary Schedule). Teaching experience, other related professional experience, and academic degrees determine salary placement on a schedule that is competitive with other California Community Colleges. Benefits: The District offers a competitive health and benefit package for employees and eligible dependents.Leave time: Full-time faculty members earn one day of sick leave for each month worked. To download job announcements and application materials, please go to http://www.santarosa.edu/hr/job-openings/job-openings.php or contact us to be mailed the materials to apply : Human Resources Department Santa Rosa Junior College PHYSICAL ADDRESS: 1988 Armory Drive MAILING ADDRESS: 1501 Mendocino Avenue Santa Rosa, CA 95401 PHONE (707) 527-4954 FAX (707) 527-4967 EMAIL bhodenfield@santarosa.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would attach a low-res version, but I don't think the listserv will let me send an attachment through. Email me off list if anyone wants a low-res version to preview. Hope it helps! Karen Best, Karen Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 *"The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect."* Tim Berners-Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Title: 3D Printing of Accessible Educational Materials Date: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 Time: 11:00 a.m. Pacific (2:00 p.m. Eastern; 19:00 GMT) Presenter: Yue-Ting Siu is a Teacher of Students with Visual Impairments (TVI), Bay Area Unified School Districts; NLCSD Fellowship recipient and doctoral student at the University of California, Berkeley Register: https://cc.readytalk.com/r/mphepsbx86xy &eom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sherylb at uw.edu Mon Apr 14 13:33:23 2014 From: sherylb at uw.edu (Sheryl Burgstahler) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In this policy, it appears that MIT is requiring more hoops for students with disabilities to go through in order to gain access to the MIT technology they need to use when compared with other MIT students. They also seem to be be only assured access to the specialized technology they need in a segregated rather than integrated setting and (perhaps) even have fewer total access hours each week than other students. If a student with a disability needs the equipment in ATIC to work on a project with a person who does not have a disability, must this second person come in as a guest and stay a maximum of ten minutes? Also, is the termination policy consistent with that for other MIT students? Are these restrictions contrary to the spirit of the ADA? Sheryl ------------------------------------------------------------ Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu On Apr 14, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Kathleen Cahill wrote: > Hi Susan, > > Here is the lab user agreement we ask our students to read and sign. > > Kathy > > Kathleen Cahill > MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) > 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 > Cambridge MA 02139 > (617) 253-5111 > kcahill@mit.edu > > > From: Susan Kelmer > Reply-To: Access Network > Date: Monday, April 7, 2014 at 1:31 PM > To: "dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu" , Access Network > Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab > > For those of you with an adaptive/assistive tech lab for student use?we are in the process of writing a few new policies, and wondered what other people have in place as far as policy in their lab. Would love to see them if you have them. > > Thanks. > > Susan Kelmer > Alternate Format Coordinator > Disability Services > University of Colorado > 303-735-4836 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at altformatsolutions.com Mon Apr 14 14:05:30 2014 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <042a01cf5825$453c07b0$cfb41710$@altformatsolutions.com> I would think they are also contrary to the recent Louisiana Settlement, the SCTC Settlement and the Berkley settlement as well. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sheryl Burgstahler Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 3:33 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab In this policy, it appears that MIT is requiring more hoops for students with disabilities to go through in order to gain access to the MIT technology they need to use when compared with other MIT students. They also seem to be be only assured access to the specialized technology they need in a segregated rather than integrated setting and (perhaps) even have fewer total access hours each week than other students. If a student with a disability needs the equipment in ATIC to work on a project with a person who does not have a disability, must this second person come in as a guest and stay a maximum of ten minutes? Also, is the termination policy consistent with that for other MIT students? Are these restrictions contrary to the spirit of the ADA? Sheryl ------------------------------------------------------------ Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu On Apr 14, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Kathleen Cahill wrote: Hi Susan, Here is the lab user agreement we ask our students to read and sign. Kathy Kathleen Cahill MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu From: Susan Kelmer Reply-To: Access Network Date: Monday, April 7, 2014 at 1:31 PM To: "dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu" , Access Network Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab For those of you with an adaptive/assistive tech lab for student use.we are in the process of writing a few new policies, and wondered what other people have in place as far as policy in their lab. Would love to see them if you have them. Thanks. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kcahill at MIT.EDU Mon Apr 14 15:44:09 2014 From: kcahill at MIT.EDU (Kathleen Cahill) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow, I guess this must be the reason why no one else has shared their lab user policy with this list. Thank you for the unsolicited reviews although I?m sure we can put some of your feedback to use. First of all, the Assistive Technology Center is open 24/7, just as mainstream computing clusters are. Students have keycard (proximity card!) access at all times. We also set our students up to work wherever they want to, including their laptops or in specific department clusters or lab where they work. One reason we have had to be restrictive in the past with guests is that we had a student who was having tutors, readers and guests in frequently, disturbing other users. We could probably stand to remove some of that wording now that it is less of an issue. While our lab is a separate facility for students with disabilities, many still prefer to use it compared to mainstream computing clusters for peace and quiet. It is not the only place on campus for students with disabilities to use assistive technologies but it is one place on campus for them to do scanning, Braille translation and embossing. They also can come to us staff for demonstrations of different products and software that are not available elsewhere on campus. We?re very proud of the services we provide our students and staff! Regards, Kathy Kathleen Cahill MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu From: Sheryl Burgstahler > Reply-To: Access Network > Date: Monday, April 14, 2014 at 4:33 PM To: Access Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab In this policy, it appears that MIT is requiring more hoops for students with disabilities to go through in order to gain access to the MIT technology they need to use when compared with other MIT students. They also seem to be be only assured access to the specialized technology they need in a segregated rather than integrated setting and (perhaps) even have fewer total access hours each week than other students. If a student with a disability needs the equipment in ATIC to work on a project with a person who does not have a disability, must this second person come in as a guest and stay a maximum of ten minutes? Also, is the termination policy consistent with that for other MIT students? Are these restrictions contrary to the spirit of the ADA? Sheryl ------------------------------------------------------------ Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu On Apr 14, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Kathleen Cahill wrote: Hi Susan, Here is the lab user agreement we ask our students to read and sign. Kathy Kathleen Cahill MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu From: Susan Kelmer > Reply-To: Access Network > Date: Monday, April 7, 2014 at 1:31 PM To: "dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu" >, Access Network > Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab For those of you with an adaptive/assistive tech lab for student use?we are in the process of writing a few new policies, and wondered what other people have in place as far as policy in their lab. Would love to see them if you have them. Thanks. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at altformatsolutions.com Mon Apr 14 16:08:13 2014 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <048c01cf5836$69d1a920$3d74fb60$@altformatsolutions.com> Kathy I am well aware of the quality of the services you provide, but just reading the policy on its surface it is problematic. If you had an OCR complaint over equivalent access the first thing they would look at is the policy and then also look into the actual practice. On its surface the policy is discriminatory, so perhaps it needs to be modified to actually be reflective of the actual practice or a procedural document that guides the policy implementation. Just my two cents, I see a lot of documents like this in my campus evaluations and I always advice against them just like I advise against disability only stations in general access labs because it creates unneeded animosity from other labs users. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 5:44 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab Wow, I guess this must be the reason why no one else has shared their lab user policy with this list. Thank you for the unsolicited reviews although I'm sure we can put some of your feedback to use. First of all, the Assistive Technology Center is open 24/7, just as mainstream computing clusters are. Students have keycard (proximity card!) access at all times. We also set our students up to work wherever they want to, including their laptops or in specific department clusters or lab where they work. One reason we have had to be restrictive in the past with guests is that we had a student who was having tutors, readers and guests in frequently, disturbing other users. We could probably stand to remove some of that wording now that it is less of an issue. While our lab is a separate facility for students with disabilities, many still prefer to use it compared to mainstream computing clusters for peace and quiet. It is not the only place on campus for students with disabilities to use assistive technologies but it is one place on campus for them to do scanning, Braille translation and embossing. They also can come to us staff for demonstrations of different products and software that are not available elsewhere on campus. We're very proud of the services we provide our students and staff! Regards, Kathy Kathleen Cahill MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu From: Sheryl Burgstahler Reply-To: Access Network Date: Monday, April 14, 2014 at 4:33 PM To: Access Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab In this policy, it appears that MIT is requiring more hoops for students with disabilities to go through in order to gain access to the MIT technology they need to use when compared with other MIT students. They also seem to be be only assured access to the specialized technology they need in a segregated rather than integrated setting and (perhaps) even have fewer total access hours each week than other students. If a student with a disability needs the equipment in ATIC to work on a project with a person who does not have a disability, must this second person come in as a guest and stay a maximum of ten minutes? Also, is the termination policy consistent with that for other MIT students? Are these restrictions contrary to the spirit of the ADA? Sheryl ------------------------------------------------------------ Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu On Apr 14, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Kathleen Cahill wrote: Hi Susan, Here is the lab user agreement we ask our students to read and sign. Kathy Kathleen Cahill MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu From: Susan Kelmer Reply-To: Access Network Date: Monday, April 7, 2014 at 1:31 PM To: "dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu" , Access Network Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab For those of you with an adaptive/assistive tech lab for student use.we are in the process of writing a few new policies, and wondered what other people have in place as far as policy in their lab. Would love to see them if you have them. Thanks. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sherylb at uw.edu Mon Apr 14 17:20:13 2014 From: sherylb at uw.edu (Sheryl Burgstahler) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab In-Reply-To: <048c01cf5836$69d1a920$3d74fb60$@altformatsolutions.com> References: <048c01cf5836$69d1a920$3d74fb60$@altformatsolutions.com> Message-ID: <93911C71-18A8-460D-A009-FF73F7537D7E@uw.edu> I agree with Ron. In light of recent compliance decisions by the OCR, it would be good to ensure that IT access for students, faculty, and staff with disabilities is identical to that for those with disabilities and offered within an integrated setting. A good question to ask is, "Is providing assistive technology (1) an accommodation for students with documented disabilities or (2) simply part of the mix of technologies the institution provides to students, faculty and staff?" How do other campuses respond to this question? Sheryl ------------------------------------------------------------ Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu On Apr 14, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: > Kathy I am well aware of the quality of the services you provide, but just reading the policy on its surface it is problematic. If you had an OCR complaint over equivalent access the first thing they would look at is the policy and then also look into the actual practice. On its surface the policy is discriminatory, so perhaps it needs to be modified to actually be reflective of the actual practice or a procedural document that guides the policy implementation. > > Just my two cents, I see a lot of documents like this in my campus evaluations and I always advice against them just like I advise against disability only stations in general access labs because it creates unneeded animosity from other labs users. > > Ron Stewart > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 5:44 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab > > Wow, I guess this must be the reason why no one else has shared their lab user policy with this list. Thank you for the unsolicited reviews although I?m sure we can put some of your feedback to use. > > First of all, the Assistive Technology Center is open 24/7, just as mainstream computing clusters are. Students have keycard (proximity card!) access at all times. We also set our students up to work wherever they want to, including their laptops or in specific department clusters or lab where they work. > > One reason we have had to be restrictive in the past with guests is that we had a student who was having tutors, readers and guests in frequently, disturbing other users. We could probably stand to remove some of that wording now that it is less of an issue. > > While our lab is a separate facility for students with disabilities, many still prefer to use it compared to mainstream computing clusters for peace and quiet. It is not the only place on campus for students with disabilities to use assistive technologies but it is one place on campus for them to do scanning, Braille translation and embossing. They also can come to us staff for demonstrations of different products and software that are not available elsewhere on campus. > > We?re very proud of the services we provide our students and staff! > > Regards, > Kathy > > Kathleen Cahill > MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) > 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 > Cambridge MA 02139 > (617) 253-5111 > kcahill@mit.edu > > > From: Sheryl Burgstahler > Reply-To: Access Network > Date: Monday, April 14, 2014 at 4:33 PM > To: Access Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab > > In this policy, it appears that MIT is requiring more hoops for students with disabilities to go through in order to gain access to the MIT technology they need to use when compared with other MIT students. They also seem to be be only assured access to the specialized technology they need in a segregated rather than integrated setting and (perhaps) even have fewer total access hours each week than other students. If a student with a disability needs the equipment in ATIC to work on a project with a person who does not have a disability, must this second person come in as a guest and stay a maximum of ten minutes? Also, is the termination policy consistent with that for other MIT students? > > Are these restrictions contrary to the spirit of the ADA? > > Sheryl > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. > Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT > Affiliate Professor, Education > University of Washington, Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 > http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb > sherylb@uw.edu > > > > > On Apr 14, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Kathleen Cahill wrote: > > > Hi Susan, > > Here is the lab user agreement we ask our students to read and sign. > > Kathy > > Kathleen Cahill > MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) > 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 > Cambridge MA 02139 > (617) 253-5111 > kcahill@mit.edu > > > From: Susan Kelmer > Reply-To: Access Network > Date: Monday, April 7, 2014 at 1:31 PM > To: "dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu" , Access Network > Subject: [Athen] Lab Polices for adaptive/assistive lab > > For those of you with an adaptive/assistive tech lab for student use?we are in the process of writing a few new policies, and wondered what other people have in place as far as policy in their lab. Would love to see them if you have them. > > Thanks. > > Susan Kelmer > Alternate Format Coordinator > Disability Services > University of Colorado > 303-735-4836 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JAsuncion at dawsoncollege.qc.ca Tue Apr 15 07:05:53 2014 From: JAsuncion at dawsoncollege.qc.ca (Jennison Asuncion) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] gaad 2014 May 15 Message-ID: Hello, We are a month away from the 3rd Global Accessibility Awareness Day. This year it is taking place on May 15. Joe Devon and I are already hearing from folks telling us about how they plan to mark the day. If you plan to hold either a public or private event to mark GAAD, email globala11yawarenessday@gmail.com and we will add it on our website. Use the same email address to get a list of ideas to mark the day sent to you. Check out what NC State is planning for GAAD, as an idea http://accessibility.oit.ncsu.edu/blog/2014/04/14/2014-nc-state-global-accessibility-awareness-day-website-challenge/ Get inspired by some of the events and activities from previous years and learn more about GAAD by visiting www.globalaccessibilityawarenessday.org. Finally, Like GAAD on Facebook www.facebook.com/globalaccessibilityawarenessday and follow the event on Twitter via @gbla11yday. Jennison Jennison Mark Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/jennison Accessibility Camp Toronto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeP5Kl4GDgA From greeark at uw.edu Tue Apr 15 11:17:59 2014 From: greeark at uw.edu (KRISTA L. GREEAR) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] course inventory assessment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't have any solutions to offer but I do want to throw out some numbers and see if there are others who are feeling the weight of content conversion for files distributed through LMS. At the UW, we use Canvas, Catalyst (UW home grown LMS), Moodle in spots and Blackboard very infrequently. Most of the reading materials distributed through LMSs are articles or chapters of books or snippets of other texts. I refer to all of these files as "articles" for simplicity. Profs frequently post links to their lecture presentations, which are not required reading per se, but are more of a reference for those who wish to review the material. On to the good stuff -- During Winter quarter (10 weeks long), I had access to 26 different LMS sites because my students needed alt format, mainly files that would work with text-to-speech engines. Kinds of classes: B EDUC, EDTEP, ENVIR, ENV H, GEN ST, GEOG, HSMGMT, LAW, LSJ, NSG, PHYS, SOC, SOC W Average # of articles per class: 42 articles Average # of pages per class: 775 pages Total # of articles for 26 LMS sites: 1,092 articles Total # of pages for 26 LMS sites: 20,054 pages 20,000+ pages! That is simply unbelievable I hope there are some presentations about partnering with faculty regarding LMS content/online content at ATHEN. In the meantime, if anyone has ideas for "low-hanging fruit" regarding accessible content distributed through LMSs, I would appreciate it. This quarter we have 65+ classes using LMSs. Sigh. Best, Krista Krista Greear Accessible Text and Technology Manager Disability Resources for Students Univeristy of Washignton -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Kraus Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:37 PM To: ATHEN Subject: [Athen] course inventory assessment Hi All, Has anyone developed a guide or document to help faculty members assess how much and what types of content they have in their course so they can know what type of work might need to be done to make their course accessible? I was thinking something along the lines of inventorying how many electronic documents you have, and then breaking that down into Word files vs. PDF files, then maybe even breaking things like PDF down to scanned articles, "newsletter" type documents, and converted Word docs. There could be other categories like multimedia, third party web sites, and e-books. Thanks. Greg -- Greg Kraus University IT Accessibility Coordinator NC State University 919.513.4087 gdkraus@ncsu.edu http://go.ncsu.edu/itaccess _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From hkramer at colorado.edu Tue Apr 15 12:46:06 2014 From: hkramer at colorado.edu (Howard Kramer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] 10 Days Left to Submit Proposals for Accessing Higher Ground Message-ID: *Accessing Higher Ground: Accessible Media, Web & Technology Conference ? November 17-21, 2014* AHG 2014 is now accepting proposals for its 17th Annual Conference in Westminster, Colorado. *AHG focuses on accessible media, universal design, best practices for web & media design, * *accessible curriculum, alternate format and other topics **related to accessibility* *in higher education and other environments. * *The proposal submission deadline is April 25.* * *More information and a link to the *onlineproposal form* can be found at *http://accessinghigherground.org/speaker_info2014.html*.* *Contact Howard Kramer at *hkramer@ahead.org* or 303-492-8672 with questions. * *If needed, a second round RFP will be announced shortly after the April 25 deadline. Note: there is no guaranty that there will be a second round opportunity. -- Howard Kramer CO-PI - UDUC *Promoting the Integration of Universal Design into University Curricula*(UDUC) Lecturer, Cont. 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Register for the April24 Webinar on color http://easi.cc/clinic.htm#april Norm From foreigntype at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 10:23:55 2014 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Mp3 Question Message-ID: <0f6301cf5998$a57f7b10$f07e7130$@gmail.com> Hi All in ATHEN-land, Am having a brain stalling moment today. Produced books for a student in MP3 for a student using TextAloud and he wanted to know if he could change the voice at his end. I know it can be selected during production. Can the voice be changed once the student receives the file? Thanks for indulging me in my D'OH moment! Wink Harner foreigntype@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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She is > registered for a music orchestration course, in which she will have to read > orchestra scores. Thus, screen enlargement won't work for her to be able to > see multiple lines of the score. The only option I can think of is Dancing > Dots. But music and a student with low vision to this extent is not a > combination with which I've dealt in the past. > > Any thoughts or ideas on how we can accommodate her? Because of the > program that she is in, this is a fundamental course for her degree. > > Many thanks for any assistance you can provide!! > > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 11:01:05 2014 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0fc501cf599d$d6e6ef30$84b4cd90$@gmail.com> Both Sibelius and Coda Finale have screen enlargement capabilities and are commonly used in music composition classes & orchestral scores. See what your music department is using for this class. Could be THIS would be the accommodation needed for the class. Also possible to get the software on a tablet for mobility purposes for her. Worth a look-see, in any case, Heidi. Then ask Bill at Dancing Dots (smile). Wink Wink Harner Assistive Technology Specialist Southern Oregon University 541-552-8442 harnerw@sou.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:40 AM To: ATHEN listserv Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores Hello all, I'm needing your expertise and ideas on some accommodation options for a student we have. She has low vision, uses screen magnification. She is registered for a music orchestration course, in which she will have to read orchestra scores. Thus, screen enlargement won't work for her to be able to see multiple lines of the score. The only option I can think of is Dancing Dots. But music and a student with low vision to this extent is not a combination with which I've dealt in the past. Any thoughts or ideas on how we can accommodate her? Because of the program that she is in, this is a fundamental course for her degree. Many thanks for any assistance you can provide!! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Wed Apr 16 12:16:41 2014 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <010b01cf59a8$666de690$3349b3b0$@htctu.net> Everyone had great suggestions, and I would just add to remember to check the National Library Services catalog. They have a good selection of musical scores in both braille and large print. Also I have seen Bill McCann at Dancing Dots demo a large screen music display that can be used for reading music in real time. I have also heard of some folks putting the music into PowerPoint and then using the slide display. That strategy can work if not too much enlargement is required. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:40 AM To: ATHEN listserv Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores Hello all, I'm needing your expertise and ideas on some accommodation options for a student we have. She has low vision, uses screen magnification. She is registered for a music orchestration course, in which she will have to read orchestra scores. Thus, screen enlargement won't work for her to be able to see multiple lines of the score. The only option I can think of is Dancing Dots. But music and a student with low vision to this extent is not a combination with which I've dealt in the past. Any thoughts or ideas on how we can accommodate her? Because of the program that she is in, this is a fundamental course for her degree. Many thanks for any assistance you can provide!! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at ucla.edu Wed Apr 16 12:52:45 2014 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores In-Reply-To: <0fc501cf599d$d6e6ef30$84b4cd90$@gmail.com> References: <0fc501cf599d$d6e6ef30$84b4cd90$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201404161952.s3GJqjTT005439@mail.ucla.edu> Let the record show that Bill McCann does have a low-vision solution. Sounds to me like a high-roller option: a portable flat-panel unit called Lime Lighter Leggiero. Marketed to performers, so aiming for the speed & portability that they would need. Unfortunately the Dancing Dots site is down at the moment... Patrick At 11:01 AM 4/16/2014, Wink Harner wrote: >Both Sibelius and Coda Finale have screen enlargement capabilities >and are commonly used in music composition classes & orchestral >scores. See what your music department is using for this class. >Could be THIS would be the accommodation needed for the class. Also >possible to get the software on a tablet for mobility purposes for >her. Worth a look-see, in any case, Heidi. Then ask Bill at Dancing >Dots (smile). > >Wink > >Wink Harner >Assistive Technology Specialist >Southern Oregon University >541-552-8442 > >harnerw@sou.edu > > > >From: athen-list >[mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher >Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:40 AM >To: ATHEN listserv >Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores > >Hello all, > >I'm needing your expertise and ideas on some accommodation options >for a student we have. She has low vision, uses screen >magnification. She is registered for a music orchestration course, >in which she will have to read orchestra scores. Thus, screen >enlargement won't work for her to be able to see multiple lines of >the score. The only option I can think of is Dancing Dots. But music >and a student with low vision to this extent is not a combination >with which I've dealt in the past. > >Any thoughts or ideas on how we can accommodate her? Because of the >program that she is in, this is a fundamental course for her degree. > >Many thanks for any assistance you can provide!! > >Heidi > >+++++++++++++++ >Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC >Associate Director >Center for Educational Access >University of Arkansas >ARKU 104 >Fayetteville, AR 72701 >479.575.3104 >479.575.7445 fax >479.575.3646 tdd >+++++++++++++++ -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke@ucla.edu Location: 4909 Math Science Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu From hascherdss at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 13:35:19 2014 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores In-Reply-To: <201404161952.s3GJqjTT005439@mail.ucla.edu> References: <0fc501cf599d$d6e6ef30$84b4cd90$@gmail.com> <201404161952.s3GJqjTT005439@mail.ucla.edu> Message-ID: Thank you all for responses! Unfortunately, just enlarging doesn't help her out. She has to be able to see the music for the multiple instruments at one time and refer between them quickly. For example, she has to be able to see in the fourth measure of the third stanza that the oboe is doing x, the violas are doing y, the bassoon is doing z, and the tympani is doing abc. We had also talked about a CCTV for the hard copy, but again, she wouldn't be able to see the multiple rows of music at one time that is necessary. Honestly, I'm coming up with very little to assist her. Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Patrick Burke wrote: > Let the record show that Bill McCann does have a low-vision solution. > Sounds to me like a high-roller option: a portable flat-panel unit called > Lime Lighter Leggiero. Marketed to performers, so aiming for the speed & > portability that they would need. > > Unfortunately the Dancing Dots site is down at the moment... > > Patrick > > > At 11:01 AM 4/16/2014, Wink Harner wrote: > > Both Sibelius and Coda Finale have screen enlargement capabilities and >> are commonly used in music composition classes & orchestral scores. See >> what your music department is using for this class. Could be THIS would be >> the accommodation needed for the class. Also possible to get the software >> on a tablet for mobility purposes for her. Worth a look-see, in any case, >> Heidi. Then ask Bill at Dancing Dots (smile). >> >> Wink >> > > > > > >> Wink Harner >> Assistive Technology Specialist >> Southern Oregon University >> 541-552-8442 >> >> harnerw@sou.edu >> >> >> >> >> From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] >> On Behalf Of Heidi Scher >> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:40 AM >> To: ATHEN listserv >> Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores >> >> Hello all, >> >> I'm needing your expertise and ideas on some accommodation options for a >> student we have. She has low vision, uses screen magnification. She is >> registered for a music orchestration course, in which she will have to read >> orchestra scores. Thus, screen enlargement won't work for her to be able to >> see multiple lines of the score. The only option I can think of is Dancing >> Dots. But music and a student with low vision to this extent is not a >> combination with which I've dealt in the past. >> >> Any thoughts or ideas on how we can accommodate her? Because of the >> program that she is in, this is a fundamental course for her degree. >> >> Many thanks for any assistance you can provide!! >> >> Heidi >> >> +++++++++++++++ >> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC >> Associate Director >> Center for Educational Access >> University of Arkansas >> ARKU 104 >> Fayetteville, AR 72701 >> 479.575.3104 >> 479.575.7445 fax >> 479.575.3646 tdd >> +++++++++++++++ >> > > -- > Patrick J. Burke > > Coordinator > UCLA Disabilities & > Computing Program > > Phone: 310 206-6004 > E-mail: burke@ucla.edu > Location: 4909 Math Science > > > Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Wed Apr 16 14:28:16 2014 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores In-Reply-To: References: <0fc501cf599d$d6e6ef30$84b4cd90$@gmail.com> <201404161952.s3GJqjTT005439@mail.ucla.edu> Message-ID: <013f01cf59ba$c940a5c0$5bc1f140$@htctu.net> Hi Heidi! When you say that just enlarging doesn?t help, do you mean that she would have to enlarge one page of the score to larger than 11 in x 17 in paper to see it? How large does she need a page to be? It would be cumbersome, but with PDF and tiling, you could literally enlarge sections of each page and reassemble them on something like a flipchart. That degree of enlargement should work for most folks who are still relying on vision, rather than braille. If she needs it even larger, the next step up would be poster board?extremely cumbersome, but still attainable. If that is still too small, you can get rolls of paper that are used for banquet tables, enlarge each section of the page 8 times or so and reassemble onto that. Beyond that you would need a wall. ;-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 1:35 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores Thank you all for responses! Unfortunately, just enlarging doesn't help her out. She has to be able to see the music for the multiple instruments at one time and refer between them quickly. For example, she has to be able to see in the fourth measure of the third stanza that the oboe is doing x, the violas are doing y, the bassoon is doing z, and the tympani is doing abc. We had also talked about a CCTV for the hard copy, but again, she wouldn't be able to see the multiple rows of music at one time that is necessary. Honestly, I'm coming up with very little to assist her. Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Patrick Burke wrote: Let the record show that Bill McCann does have a low-vision solution. Sounds to me like a high-roller option: a portable flat-panel unit called Lime Lighter Leggiero. Marketed to performers, so aiming for the speed & portability that they would need. Unfortunately the Dancing Dots site is down at the moment... Patrick At 11:01 AM 4/16/2014, Wink Harner wrote: Both Sibelius and Coda Finale have screen enlargement capabilities and are commonly used in music composition classes & orchestral scores. See what your music department is using for this class. Could be THIS would be the accommodation needed for the class. Also possible to get the software on a tablet for mobility purposes for her. Worth a look-see, in any case, Heidi. Then ask Bill at Dancing Dots (smile). Wink Wink Harner Assistive Technology Specialist Southern Oregon University 541-552-8442 harnerw@sou.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:40 AM To: ATHEN listserv Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores Hello all, I'm needing your expertise and ideas on some accommodation options for a student we have. She has low vision, uses screen magnification. She is registered for a music orchestration course, in which she will have to read orchestra scores. Thus, screen enlargement won't work for her to be able to see multiple lines of the score. The only option I can think of is Dancing Dots. But music and a student with low vision to this extent is not a combination with which I've dealt in the past. Any thoughts or ideas on how we can accommodate her? Because of the program that she is in, this is a fundamental course for her degree. Many thanks for any assistance you can provide!! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke@ucla.edu Location: 4909 Math Science Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 15:45:17 2014 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] I would like to learn more about Linkedon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <534f080f.886fb60a.41cd.163b@mx.google.com> I was pleased to see you even as ships passing in the dark at CSUN. I noticed 2-3 other Linkedon-related people giving presentations. I think this is new. What is happening there to stir this interest? I have a Linkedon account, but I almost NEVER use it. Certainly I have used it so little that I don't really understand what unique features it has and which ones are highly accessible and which may be problematic. I have been feeling guilty and thinking it is long overdue for me to learn its features and make better use of it. I'd love to have an EASI Webinar explaining linkedon, its purposes, its features and its accessibility. Lots of people with disabilities are using and talking about Facebook and Twitter. I don't find Linkedon getting nearly as much attention. I think that a professional networking tool could be useful for people with disabilities for a number of reasons. Could you do such a Webinar for us? or Could you recommend someone else from Linkedon for me to contact. Norm From sherylb at uw.edu Wed Apr 16 17:05:59 2014 From: sherylb at uw.edu (Sheryl Burgstahler) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] course inventory assessment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2042AC4F-C13E-4741-96FC-B810569FE96C@uw.edu> Krista, These numbers are very interesting. Thanks for sharing. When you create documents in accessible format for students in a class, does the professor then use the accessible versions in the future? Another question, what are the typical accommodations you provide for a student who has a visual impairment? a hearing impairment? a learning disability? other disabilities? Thanks. Sheryl ------------------------------------------------------------ Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:17 AM, KRISTA L. GREEAR wrote: > I don't have any solutions to offer but I do want to throw out some numbers and see if there are others who are feeling the weight of content conversion for files distributed through LMS. > > At the UW, we use Canvas, Catalyst (UW home grown LMS), Moodle in spots and Blackboard very infrequently. Most of the reading materials distributed through LMSs are articles or chapters of books or snippets of other texts. I refer to all of these files as "articles" for simplicity. Profs frequently post links to their lecture presentations, which are not required reading per se, but are more of a reference for those who wish to review the material. > > On to the good stuff -- During Winter quarter (10 weeks long), I had access to 26 different LMS sites because my students needed alt format, mainly files that would work with text-to-speech engines. > > Kinds of classes: B EDUC, EDTEP, ENVIR, ENV H, GEN ST, GEOG, HSMGMT, LAW, LSJ, NSG, PHYS, SOC, SOC W > > Average # of articles per class: 42 articles > Average # of pages per class: 775 pages > > Total # of articles for 26 LMS sites: 1,092 articles > Total # of pages for 26 LMS sites: 20,054 pages > > 20,000+ pages! That is simply unbelievable I hope there are some presentations about partnering with faculty regarding LMS content/online content at ATHEN. In the meantime, if anyone has ideas for "low-hanging fruit" regarding accessible content distributed through LMSs, I would appreciate it. This quarter we have 65+ classes using LMSs. Sigh. > > Best, > Krista > > Krista Greear > Accessible Text and Technology Manager > Disability Resources for Students > Univeristy of Washignton > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Kraus > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:37 PM > To: ATHEN > Subject: [Athen] course inventory assessment > > Hi All, > > Has anyone developed a guide or document to help faculty members assess how much and what types of content they have in their course so they can know what type of work might need to be done to make their course accessible? I was thinking something along the lines of inventorying how many electronic documents you have, and then breaking that down into Word files vs. PDF files, then maybe even breaking things like PDF down to scanned articles, "newsletter" type documents, and converted Word docs. There could be other categories like multimedia, third party web sites, and e-books. > > Thanks. > > Greg > -- > Greg Kraus > University IT Accessibility Coordinator > NC State University > 919.513.4087 > gdkraus@ncsu.edu > http://go.ncsu.edu/itaccess > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 12:24 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Mp3 Question Hi All in ATHEN-land, Am having a brain stalling moment today. Produced books for a student in MP3 for a student using TextAloud and he wanted to know if he could change the voice at his end. I know it can be selected during production. Can the voice be changed once the student receives the file? Thanks for indulging me in my D'OH moment! Wink Harner foreigntype@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shahidak at echo.rutgers.edu Thu Apr 17 06:21:02 2014 From: shahidak at echo.rutgers.edu (Shahida Khaliq) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Mp3 Question In-Reply-To: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846A6C58FF@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> References: <0f6301cf5998$a57f7b10$f07e7130$@gmail.com> <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846A6C58FF@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: Morning Wink Yup, that's my understanding to. Best Regards Shahida Khaliq Coordinator for Alternate Format Text & Adaptive Tech. Office of Disability Services Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey Lucy Stone Hall, Livingston Campus 54 Joyce Kilmer Ave, Suite A145 Piscataway, New Jersey 08854 Phone # (848) 445-6800 Fax # (732) 445-3388 Office Hours Monday- Friday 8:30am-5:00pm Website: https://ods.rutgers.edu Making a Key Difference From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:09 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Mp3 Question I am not aware of any system that will change the voice of a recorded MP3 file. You would have to regenerate the MP3 with the different voice. Of course, some systems will allow you to adjust the speed and pitch, but not the actual voice. If anybody is aware of something different, I'd like to know about it. 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URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 09:54:14 2014 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Mp3 Question In-Reply-To: References: <0f6301cf5998$a57f7b10$f07e7130$@gmail.com> <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846A6C58FF@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: <4B2A178C-1E61-4218-B9B9-6678D1A8E2C9@gmail.com> Thanks everyone. I thought that was the case with MP3s (about not being able to change the voice after the fact). I think the student was confusing TTS with MP3. Appreciate your collective wisdom! Wink Wink Harner foreigntype@gmail.com > On Apr 17, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Shahida Khaliq wrote: > > Morning Wink > > Yup, that?s my understanding to. > > Best Regards > Shahida Khaliq > Coordinator for Alternate Format Text & Adaptive Tech. > > Office of Disability Services > Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey > Lucy Stone Hall, Livingston Campus > 54 Joyce Kilmer Ave, Suite A145 > Piscataway, New Jersey 08854 > Phone # (848) 445-6800 Fax # (732) 445-3388 > Office Hours Monday- Friday 8:30am-5:00pm > Website: https://ods.rutgers.edu > Making a Key Difference > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Beach > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:09 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Mp3 Question > > I am not aware of any system that will change the voice of a recorded MP3 file. You would have to regenerate the MP3 with the different voice. Of course, some systems will allow you to adjust the speed and pitch, but not the actual voice. If anybody is aware of something different, I?d like to know about it. > > > > Robert Lee Beach > Assistive Technology Specialist > Kansas City Kansas Community College > 7250 State Avenue > Kansas City, KS 66112 > 913-288-7671 > rbeach@kckcc.edu > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Wink Harner > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 12:24 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Mp3 Question > > Hi All in ATHEN-land, > > Am having a brain stalling moment today. Produced books for a student in MP3 for a student using TextAloud and he wanted to know if he could change the voice at his end. I know it can be selected during production. Can the voice be changed once the student receives the file? > > Thanks for indulging me in my D?OH moment! > > > > Wink Harner > foreigntype@gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 15:54:59 2014 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores In-Reply-To: <013f01cf59ba$c940a5c0$5bc1f140$@htctu.net> References: <0fc501cf599d$d6e6ef30$84b4cd90$@gmail.com> <201404161952.s3GJqjTT005439@mail.ucla.edu> <013f01cf59ba$c940a5c0$5bc1f140$@htctu.net> Message-ID: Hey Gaeir, That's some good food-for-thought. I'll chat with the student to see what she thinks. Thanks for giving me some direction!! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Gaeir Dietrich wrote: > Hi Heidi! > > > > When you say that just enlarging doesn?t help, do you mean that she would > have to enlarge one page of the score to larger than 11 in x 17 in paper to > see it? How large does she need a page to be? > > > > It would be cumbersome, but with PDF and tiling, you could literally > enlarge sections of each page and reassemble them on something like a > flipchart. That degree of enlargement should work for most folks who are > still relying on vision, rather than braille. If she needs it even larger, > the next step up would be poster board?extremely cumbersome, but still > attainable. If that is still too small, you can get rolls of paper that are > used for banquet tables, enlarge each section of the page 8 times or so and > reassemble onto that. Beyond that you would need a wall. ;-) > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Heidi Scher > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2014 1:35 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores > > > > Thank you all for responses! Unfortunately, just enlarging doesn't help > her out. She has to be able to see the music for the multiple instruments > at one time and refer between them quickly. For example, she has to be able > to see in the fourth measure of the third stanza that the oboe is doing x, > the violas are doing y, the bassoon is doing z, and the tympani is doing > abc. > > > > We had also talked about a CCTV for the hard copy, but again, she wouldn't > be able to see the multiple rows of music at one time that is necessary. > > > > Honestly, I'm coming up with very little to assist her. > > > > Heidi > > > > > > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Patrick Burke wrote: > > Let the record show that Bill McCann does have a low-vision solution. > Sounds to me like a high-roller option: a portable flat-panel unit called > Lime Lighter Leggiero. Marketed to performers, so aiming for the speed & > portability that they would need. > > Unfortunately the Dancing Dots site is down at the moment... > > Patrick > > > > At 11:01 AM 4/16/2014, Wink Harner wrote: > > Both Sibelius and Coda Finale have screen enlargement capabilities and are > commonly used in music composition classes & orchestral scores. See what > your music department is using for this class. Could be THIS would be the > accommodation needed for the class. Also possible to get the software on a > tablet for mobility purposes for her. Worth a look-see, in any case, Heidi. > Then ask Bill at Dancing Dots (smile). > > Wink > > > > > > Wink Harner > Assistive Technology Specialist > Southern Oregon University > 541-552-8442 > > harnerw@sou.edu > > > > > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] > On Behalf Of Heidi Scher > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:40 AM > To: ATHEN listserv > Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores > > Hello all, > > I'm needing your expertise and ideas on some accommodation options for a > student we have. She has low vision, uses screen magnification. She is > registered for a music orchestration course, in which she will have to read > orchestra scores. Thus, screen enlargement won't work for her to be able to > see multiple lines of the score. The only option I can think of is Dancing > Dots. But music and a student with low vision to this extent is not a > combination with which I've dealt in the past. > > Any thoughts or ideas on how we can accommodate her? Because of the > program that she is in, this is a fundamental course for her degree. > > Many thanks for any assistance you can provide!! > > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > -- > Patrick J. Burke > > Coordinator > UCLA Disabilities & > Computing Program > > Phone: 310 206-6004 > E-mail: burke@ucla.edu > Location: 4909 Math Science > > > Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greeark at uw.edu Thu Apr 17 16:52:05 2014 From: greeark at uw.edu (KRISTA L. GREEAR) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] course inventory assessment In-Reply-To: <2042AC4F-C13E-4741-96FC-B810569FE96C@uw.edu> References: , <2042AC4F-C13E-4741-96FC-B810569FE96C@uw.edu> Message-ID: Great question. I provide the accessible files to the faculty along with a short explanation of why they are the recipient of such a prize. Whether they utilize them or not, it's hard to know for sure. I can't really answer your other question as I work specifically with alternate format requests. The next time DRS visits DO-IT we can provide a more comprehensive list. And one part of the project I failed to provide is that 73% of the files I evaluated were PDF, 17% were word docs and the remaining were powerpoints (rough percentages). Krista Greear Access Text & Technology Manager Disability Resources for Students (206) 543-8924 disability.wa.edu ________________________________ From: athen-list [athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] on behalf of Sheryl Burgstahler [sherylb@uw.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:05 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] course inventory assessment Krista, These numbers are very interesting. Thanks for sharing. When you create documents in accessible format for students in a class, does the professor then use the accessible versions in the future? Another question, what are the typical accommodations you provide for a student who has * a visual impairment? * a hearing impairment? * a learning disability? * other disabilities? Thanks. Sheryl ------------------------------------------------------------ Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:17 AM, KRISTA L. GREEAR wrote: I don't have any solutions to offer but I do want to throw out some numbers and see if there are others who are feeling the weight of content conversion for files distributed through LMS. At the UW, we use Canvas, Catalyst (UW home grown LMS), Moodle in spots and Blackboard very infrequently. Most of the reading materials distributed through LMSs are articles or chapters of books or snippets of other texts. I refer to all of these files as "articles" for simplicity. Profs frequently post links to their lecture presentations, which are not required reading per se, but are more of a reference for those who wish to review the material. On to the good stuff -- During Winter quarter (10 weeks long), I had access to 26 different LMS sites because my students needed alt format, mainly files that would work with text-to-speech engines. Kinds of classes: B EDUC, EDTEP, ENVIR, ENV H, GEN ST, GEOG, HSMGMT, LAW, LSJ, NSG, PHYS, SOC, SOC W Average # of articles per class: 42 articles Average # of pages per class: 775 pages Total # of articles for 26 LMS sites: 1,092 articles Total # of pages for 26 LMS sites: 20,054 pages 20,000+ pages! That is simply unbelievable I hope there are some presentations about partnering with faculty regarding LMS content/online content at ATHEN. In the meantime, if anyone has ideas for "low-hanging fruit" regarding accessible content distributed through LMSs, I would appreciate it. This quarter we have 65+ classes using LMSs. Sigh. Best, Krista Krista Greear Accessible Text and Technology Manager Disability Resources for Students Univeristy of Washignton -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Kraus Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:37 PM To: ATHEN Subject: [Athen] course inventory assessment Hi All, Has anyone developed a guide or document to help faculty members assess how much and what types of content they have in their course so they can know what type of work might need to be done to make their course accessible? I was thinking something along the lines of inventorying how many electronic documents you have, and then breaking that down into Word files vs. PDF files, then maybe even breaking things like PDF down to scanned articles, "newsletter" type documents, and converted Word docs. There could be other categories like multimedia, third party web sites, and e-books. Thanks. Greg -- Greg Kraus University IT Accessibility Coordinator NC State University 919.513.4087 gdkraus@ncsu.edu http://go.ncsu.edu/itaccess _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 17:23:37 2014 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] course inventory assessment In-Reply-To: References: <2042AC4F-C13E-4741-96FC-B810569FE96C@uw.edu> Message-ID: Krista, Great information you shared! Any additional details you could share regarding your review process would be greatly appreciated. I've been considering doing such a review here at the University of Arkansas. We've developed a very strong relationship with our Global Campus. But we know that many more instructors are using digital means for students to access "articles". I would like to include in my review those which are in "Global Campus" and those which are supplemental to campus courses. Did you happen to review to see what courses had a higher percentage of such documents? Again, thanks for sharing! 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Your cooperation is appreciated. +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:52 PM, KRISTA L. GREEAR wrote: > Great question. I provide the accessible files to the faculty along with > a short explanation of why they are the recipient of such a prize. Whether > they utilize them or not, it's hard to know for sure. > > I can't really answer your other question as I work specifically with > alternate format requests. The next time DRS visits DO-IT we can provide a > more comprehensive list. > > And one part of the project I failed to provide is that 73% of the files > I evaluated were PDF, 17% were word docs and the remaining were powerpoints > (rough percentages). > > Krista Greear > Access Text & Technology Manager > Disability Resources for Students > (206) 543-8924 > disability.wa.edu > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list [athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] on > behalf of Sheryl Burgstahler [sherylb@uw.edu] > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:05 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] course inventory assessment > > Krista, > > These numbers are very interesting. Thanks for sharing. > > When you create documents in accessible format for students in a class, > does the professor then use the accessible versions in the future? > > Another question, what are the typical accommodations you provide for a > student who has > > - a visual impairment? > - a hearing impairment? > - a learning disability? > - other disabilities? > > Thanks. > Sheryl > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. > Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT > Affiliate Professor, Education > University of Washington, Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 > http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb > sherylb@uw.edu > > > > On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:17 AM, KRISTA L. GREEAR wrote: > > I don't have any solutions to offer but I do want to throw out some > numbers and see if there are others who are feeling the weight of content > conversion for files distributed through LMS. > > At the UW, we use Canvas, Catalyst (UW home grown LMS), Moodle in spots > and Blackboard very infrequently. Most of the reading materials distributed > through LMSs are articles or chapters of books or snippets of other texts. > I refer to all of these files as "articles" for simplicity. Profs > frequently post links to their lecture presentations, which are not > required reading per se, but are more of a reference for those who wish to > review the material. > > On to the good stuff -- During Winter quarter (10 weeks long), I had > access to 26 different LMS sites because my students needed alt format, > mainly files that would work with text-to-speech engines. > > Kinds of classes: B EDUC, EDTEP, ENVIR, ENV H, GEN ST, GEOG, HSMGMT, LAW, > LSJ, NSG, PHYS, SOC, SOC W > > Average # of articles per class: 42 articles > Average # of pages per class: 775 pages > > Total # of articles for 26 LMS sites: 1,092 articles > Total # of pages for 26 LMS sites: 20,054 pages > > 20,000+ pages! That is simply unbelievable I hope there are some > presentations about partnering with faculty regarding LMS content/online > content at ATHEN. In the meantime, if anyone has ideas for "low-hanging > fruit" regarding accessible content distributed through LMSs, I would > appreciate it. This quarter we have 65+ classes using LMSs. Sigh. > > Best, > Krista > > Krista Greear > Accessible Text and Technology Manager > Disability Resources for Students > Univeristy of Washignton > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] > On Behalf Of Greg Kraus > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:37 PM > To: ATHEN > Subject: [Athen] course inventory assessment > > Hi All, > > Has anyone developed a guide or document to help faculty members assess > how much and what types of content they have in their course so they can > know what type of work might need to be done to make their course > accessible? I was thinking something along the lines of inventorying how > many electronic documents you have, and then breaking that down into Word > files vs. PDF files, then maybe even breaking things like PDF down to > scanned articles, "newsletter" type documents, and converted Word docs. > There could be other categories like multimedia, third party web sites, and > e-books. > > Thanks. > > Greg > -- > Greg Kraus > University IT Accessibility Coordinator > NC State University > 919.513.4087 > gdkraus@ncsu.edu > http://go.ncsu.edu/itaccess > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 from 9:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m.Where: Chicopee Public Library, 449 Front Street, Chicopee MAPresenters ? Richard M Jackson, Ed.D., Associate Professor, Lynch School of Education, Boston College, Senior Research Scientist, Center for Applied Special Technologies (CAST) ? Eileen Curran, M.Ed., Teacher of Students with Visual Impairments and AT Consultant ? Richard P Ely. Ed.D., Teacher of Students with Visual Impairments and AT Consultant Registration fee of $75 includes morning coffee and lunch. Certificates of Attendance for 6.0 hours of instruction will be provided. *Please visit our website for more information and to download the registration form.* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 06:35:37 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Companies that do accessibility audits In-Reply-To: <9FE11CF39AD78F4C9FA12F7954AE9F56F9EF86B5BF@EXCHANGE.pstcc.edu> References: <9FE11CF39AD78F4C9FA12F7954AE9F56F9EF86B5BF@EXCHANGE.pstcc.edu> Message-ID: Please contact me privately and I may be of some help. Ron Stewart Ronrstewart@gmail.com On Friday, April 18, 2014, Wershing, Alice D. wrote: > Our department has been asked to research companies that do accessibility > audits of electronic learning materials. I?ve done a preliminary google > search but have not found much. If anyone has a reference or ideas, please > send them. Thanks. > > > > Alice Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P. > > Technology Specialist > > Disability Services > > Pellissippi State Community College > > 10915 Hardin Valley Road > > Knoxville TN 37933-0990 > > (865) 694-6751 > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From madeleine_rothberg at wgbh.org Fri Apr 18 07:13:26 2014 From: madeleine_rothberg at wgbh.org (Madeleine Rothberg) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Companies that do accessibility audits Message-ID: Alice, My organization, the National Center for Accessible Media at WGBH, provides accessibility audits and many other services for educational materials. If you are interested in learning more, feel free to send me questions, or contact our director: Donna A. Danielewski, Ph.D. Director, The Carl and Ruth Shapiro Family National Center for Accessible Media at WGBH (NCAM) (617) 300-2454 Donna_Danielewski@WGBH.org http://ncam.wgbh.org Best, Madeleine -- Madeleine Rothberg Project Director Carl and Ruth Shapiro Family National Center for Accessible Media at WGBH http://ncam.wgbh.org madeleine_rothberg@wgbh.org From: , "Alice D." > Reply-To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Date: Friday, April 18, 2014 9:09 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Companies that do accessibility audits Our department has been asked to research companies that do accessibility audits of electronic learning materials. I?ve done a preliminary google search but have not found much. If anyone has a reference or ideas, please send them. Thanks. Alice Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P. 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It should indicate that all users with system accounts have read permission. This is correct. 7. Click Select Specific Users to add staff and generic alt-text account as folder managers. 8. Enter the usernames separated by commas. 9. Check all four permissions: Read, Write, Manage, Remove. 10. Choose Overwrite to push to all child folders that are created. 11. Click Submit. Steps to be performed by ODS to add folders for individual students: 1. Login with Blackboard Learn with alt-text username or your username if you are a folder manager. 2. Click on Content Collection in top menu bar. 3. Click on Institution Content in left-hand menu. 4. Click on folder called ODS. 5. Click on Create Folder in black tool bar. 6. Enter the folder name for a particular student. 7. Choose Create and Customize. If desired, turn on Tracking under Option #6. 8. Click Submit. 9. Click on the Hand icon under Permissions. By default, it will indicate that all users have read permission. Check the box next to this permission and choose Delete. 10. Click Select Specific Users to add individual student. 11. Enter the username for the student. 12. Check one permission: Read. 13. Choose Overwrite to push to all child folders that are created. 14. Click Submit. 15. Add the etext files to the student?s folder. If ODS needs to give other staff members permission to add folders and files to the ODS Content Collection area, follow these steps. 1. Login with username and password at to Blackboard Learn. 2. Click on Content Collection in top menu bar. 3. Click on Institution Content in left-hand menu. 4. Locate the folder called Office of Disability Services. 5. Click on the Hand icon under Permissions. It should indicate that all users with system accounts have read permission. This is correct. 6. Click Select Specific Users to add ODS staff as folder managers. 7. Enter the usernames separated by commas. 8. Check all four permissions: Read, Write, Manage, Remove. 9. Choose Overwrite to push to all child folders that are created. 10. Click Submit. Rachel Dr. Rachel S. Thompson Director, Emerging Technology and Accessibility Center for Instructional Technology University of Alabama http://accessibility.ua.edu May 12-13, 2014 | UA System Scholars Institute | http://scholarsinstitute.ua.edu From: , Rachel Thompson > Date: Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 9:11 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Alt Text Repository Software We use the Content Collection in Blackboard Learn; our students are already in Blackboard frequently. Our area (Center for Instructional Technology) created an alt-text account for our Office of Disability Services staff. We made the folder visible to everyone on our campus, but when files are uploaded by ODS, they are shared with the individual student only. This allows ODS to remove access when no longer needed and gives some tracking showing if the files have been accessed. If anyone wants more info or wants steps to give your Blackboard admin, let me know. Rachel Dr. Rachel S. Thompson Director, Emerging Technology and Accessibility Center for Instructional Technology University of Alabama http://accessibility.ua.edu May 12-13, 2014 | UA System Scholars Institute | http://scholarsinstitute.ua.edu From: Robert Espero > Reply-To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Date: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 at 2:34 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Alt Text Repository Software Dropbox has been useful for us.. Robert Espero UD & Technology Manager UC Irvine Disability Services Center From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hamman, Melanie Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:11 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Alt Text Repository Software I am asking people that provide Alternative Text Services do you use a secured repository to house your electronic books for the students to get their book remotely? If so , what software are you using to support that service. Thank you, Melanie Morel Adaptive Technology Specialist Access Center & Testing Services Metro State University of Denver Plaza Suite 122 From yamanise at lcc.edu Mon Apr 21 11:05:26 2014 From: yamanise at lcc.edu (Evan S Yamanishi) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores In-Reply-To: References: <0fc501cf599d$d6e6ef30$84b4cd90$@gmail.com> <201404161952.s3GJqjTT005439@mail.ucla.edu> <013f01cf59ba$c940a5c0$5bc1f140$@htctu.net> Message-ID: <5e794e37bb3c4fd7b8dbb32f14946f36@BLUPR07MB484.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> I wish I had caught this thread earlier. I got my undergrad in music education, now work in AT/accessible media, and have had low vision music students in the past. My suggestion is to see if orchestral reductions are available. Scores of music traditionally have each instrument on its own staff, meaning you have to read dozens of staves in real time, which is likely the problem with enlargements. Reductions take all those staves and put them on just two: treble and bass. There are generally two kinds of reductions: ? Piano reductions are meant to be played as-is by a pianist, and usually don?t have additional information about what instrument is playing what notes. ? Orchestral reductions are usually still on two lines, but they do have information about what instrument is playing what line. If she has to do any conducting (it was a requirement in my orchestration course), orchestral reductions would seem like the best choice since you?d be able to enlarge them without losing much info. I know Finale and Sibelius both can do score reductions?it might even be possible to color code the lines with instruments, though I?ve never tried it. It?s pretty common practice to color-code scores with highlighters. Evan Yamanishi Coordinator of Reader Services Office of Disability Support Services Lansing Community College (517) 483-5263 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:55 PM To: Gaeir; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores Hey Gaeir, That's some good food-for-thought. I'll chat with the student to see what she thinks. Thanks for giving me some direction!! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Gaeir Dietrich > wrote: Hi Heidi! When you say that just enlarging doesn?t help, do you mean that she would have to enlarge one page of the score to larger than 11 in x 17 in paper to see it? How large does she need a page to be? It would be cumbersome, but with PDF and tiling, you could literally enlarge sections of each page and reassemble them on something like a flipchart. That degree of enlargement should work for most folks who are still relying on vision, rather than braille. If she needs it even larger, the next step up would be poster board?extremely cumbersome, but still attainable. If that is still too small, you can get rolls of paper that are used for banquet tables, enlarge each section of the page 8 times or so and reassemble onto that. Beyond that you would need a wall. ;-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 1:35 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores Thank you all for responses! Unfortunately, just enlarging doesn't help her out. She has to be able to see the music for the multiple instruments at one time and refer between them quickly. For example, she has to be able to see in the fourth measure of the third stanza that the oboe is doing x, the violas are doing y, the bassoon is doing z, and the tympani is doing abc. We had also talked about a CCTV for the hard copy, but again, she wouldn't be able to see the multiple rows of music at one time that is necessary. Honestly, I'm coming up with very little to assist her. Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Patrick Burke > wrote: Let the record show that Bill McCann does have a low-vision solution. Sounds to me like a high-roller option: a portable flat-panel unit called Lime Lighter Leggiero. Marketed to performers, so aiming for the speed & portability that they would need. Unfortunately the Dancing Dots site is down at the moment... Patrick At 11:01 AM 4/16/2014, Wink Harner wrote: Both Sibelius and Coda Finale have screen enlargement capabilities and are commonly used in music composition classes & orchestral scores. See what your music department is using for this class. Could be THIS would be the accommodation needed for the class. Also possible to get the software on a tablet for mobility purposes for her. Worth a look-see, in any case, Heidi. Then ask Bill at Dancing Dots (smile). Wink Wink Harner Assistive Technology Specialist Southern Oregon University 541-552-8442 >harnerw@sou.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:40 AM To: ATHEN listserv Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores Hello all, I'm needing your expertise and ideas on some accommodation options for a student we have. She has low vision, uses screen magnification. She is registered for a music orchestration course, in which she will have to read orchestra scores. Thus, screen enlargement won't work for her to be able to see multiple lines of the score. The only option I can think of is Dancing Dots. But music and a student with low vision to this extent is not a combination with which I've dealt in the past. Any thoughts or ideas on how we can accommodate her? Because of the program that she is in, this is a fundamental course for her degree. Many thanks for any assistance you can provide!! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke@ucla.edu Location: 4909 Math Science Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 15:13:32 2014 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores In-Reply-To: <5e794e37bb3c4fd7b8dbb32f14946f36@BLUPR07MB484.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> References: <0fc501cf599d$d6e6ef30$84b4cd90$@gmail.com> <201404161952.s3GJqjTT005439@mail.ucla.edu> <013f01cf59ba$c940a5c0$5bc1f140$@htctu.net> <5e794e37bb3c4fd7b8dbb32f14946f36@BLUPR07MB484.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: Evan, You hit the nail on the head regarding the number of staves that she has to view simultaneously and the enlarging issue! (I apologize to all that my music vocabulary is lacking. Seems like it's been a hundred years since I read music!) I'm hoping to talk again with the instructor tomorrow, so I'll be sure and ask about the score reductions. And which software they may have available. THANKS again to everyone for the input! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Evan S Yamanishi wrote: > I wish I had caught this thread earlier. I got my undergrad in music > education, now work in AT/accessible media, and have had low vision music > students in the past. > > > > My suggestion is to see if orchestral reductions are available. Scores of > music traditionally have each instrument on its own staff, meaning you have > to read dozens of staves in real time, which is likely the problem with > enlargements. Reductions take all those staves and put them on just two: > treble and bass. There are generally two kinds of reductions: > > > > ? Piano reductions are meant to be played as-is by a pianist, and > usually don?t have additional information about what instrument is playing > what notes. > > ? Orchestral reductions are usually still on two lines, but they > do have information about what instrument is playing what line. > > > > If she has to do any conducting (it was a requirement in my orchestration > course), orchestral reductions would seem like the best choice since you?d > be able to enlarge them without losing much info. > > > > I know Finale and Sibelius both can do score reductions?it might even be > possible to color code the lines with instruments, though I?ve never tried > it. It?s pretty common practice to color-code scores with highlighters. > > > > Evan Yamanishi > > Coordinator of Reader Services > > Office of Disability Support Services > > Lansing Community College > > (517) 483-5263 <+15174835263> > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Heidi Scher > *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:55 PM > *To:* Gaeir; Access Technology Higher Education Network > > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores > > > > Hey Gaeir, > > > > That's some good food-for-thought. I'll chat with the student to see what > she thinks. > > > > Thanks for giving me some direction!! > > > > Heidi > > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Gaeir Dietrich > wrote: > > Hi Heidi! > > > > When you say that just enlarging doesn?t help, do you mean that she would > have to enlarge one page of the score to larger than 11 in x 17 in paper to > see it? How large does she need a page to be? > > > > It would be cumbersome, but with PDF and tiling, you could literally > enlarge sections of each page and reassemble them on something like a > flipchart. That degree of enlargement should work for most folks who are > still relying on vision, rather than braille. If she needs it even larger, > the next step up would be poster board?extremely cumbersome, but still > attainable. If that is still too small, you can get rolls of paper that are > used for banquet tables, enlarge each section of the page 8 times or so and > reassemble onto that. Beyond that you would need a wall. ;-) > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Heidi Scher > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2014 1:35 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores > > > > Thank you all for responses! Unfortunately, just enlarging doesn't help > her out. She has to be able to see the music for the multiple instruments > at one time and refer between them quickly. For example, she has to be able > to see in the fourth measure of the third stanza that the oboe is doing x, > the violas are doing y, the bassoon is doing z, and the tympani is doing > abc. > > > > We had also talked about a CCTV for the hard copy, but again, she wouldn't > be able to see the multiple rows of music at one time that is necessary. > > > > Honestly, I'm coming up with very little to assist her. > > > > Heidi > > > > > > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Patrick Burke wrote: > > Let the record show that Bill McCann does have a low-vision solution. > Sounds to me like a high-roller option: a portable flat-panel unit called > Lime Lighter Leggiero. Marketed to performers, so aiming for the speed & > portability that they would need. > > Unfortunately the Dancing Dots site is down at the moment... > > Patrick > > > > At 11:01 AM 4/16/2014, Wink Harner wrote: > > Both Sibelius and Coda Finale have screen enlargement capabilities and are > commonly used in music composition classes & orchestral scores. See what > your music department is using for this class. Could be THIS would be the > accommodation needed for the class. Also possible to get the software on a > tablet for mobility purposes for her. Worth a look-see, in any case, Heidi. > Then ask Bill at Dancing Dots (smile). > > Wink > > > > > Wink Harner > Assistive Technology Specialist > Southern Oregon University > 541-552-8442 > > harnerw@sou.edu > > > > > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] > On Behalf Of Heidi Scher > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:40 AM > To: ATHEN listserv > Subject: [Athen] Help!! Low vision and music scores > > Hello all, > > I'm needing your expertise and ideas on some accommodation options for a > student we have. She has low vision, uses screen magnification. She is > registered for a music orchestration course, in which she will have to read > orchestra scores. Thus, screen enlargement won't work for her to be able to > see multiple lines of the score. The only option I can think of is Dancing > Dots. But music and a student with low vision to this extent is not a > combination with which I've dealt in the past. > > Any thoughts or ideas on how we can accommodate her? Because of the > program that she is in, this is a fundamental course for her degree. > > Many thanks for any assistance you can provide!! > > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > -- > Patrick J. Burke > > Coordinator > UCLA Disabilities & > Computing Program > > Phone: 310 206-6004 > E-mail: burke@ucla.edu > Location: 4909 Math Science > > > Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greeark at uw.edu Tue Apr 22 09:11:13 2014 From: greeark at uw.edu (KRISTA L. GREEAR) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] course inventory assessment In-Reply-To: References: <2042AC4F-C13E-4741-96FC-B810569FE96C@uw.edu> Message-ID: Hi Heidi, The process I used to evaluate these materials was at the ?grass-roots? level. I emailed each professor, explaining who I was and what I was looking for (keeping the email to about 4 sentences or less). I ended the email by saying ?IF you use a learning management systems like Blackboard, Moodle, Canvas, could you please add me to the site as an observer?? This provided an educational opportunity for those who have never heard of text conversion. Of course, this filled up my inbox and took a lot of time to respond to those who needed more information. But I was granted access to several dozen LMS sites within a matter of days. A couple of professors even came to see me to learn more about accessibility (a pleasant surprise)! The next step was to download all the articles and evaluate them. My team opened each document, looked for some key accessibility features (quality selectable text, headings, pictures/graphs, crooked pages, etc?). This info was recorded in a spreadsheet and each document evaluation took roughly 10-15 seconds. I liken our evaluation process to hiring managers who look at dozens of resumes. The average person in that role spends 30 seconds or less per resume, looking for the keywords or most important highlights before making a decision regarding if the candidate is a good fit. Within a couple of seconds, my team can identify the top accessibility concerns. From there, I determine which documents need to be fixed and delegate assignments to a team member. Is this evaluation process replicable quarter after quarter? No. Each quarter I work with more students and have more intensive projects. But this project gave me a great start to have conversations with professors, instructional technologists and other necessary partners on campus, to work on a campus-wide solution. And to answer your last question, at the UW, Social Work courses are notorious for having hundreds of articles per course. Humanities classes generally have more articles than STEM courses. Krista From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 5:24 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] course inventory assessment Krista, Great information you shared! Any additional details you could share regarding your review process would be greatly appreciated. I've been considering doing such a review here at the University of Arkansas. We've developed a very strong relationship with our Global Campus. But we know that many more instructors are using digital means for students to access "articles". I would like to include in my review those which are in "Global Campus" and those which are supplemental to campus courses. Did you happen to review to see what courses had a higher percentage of such documents? Again, thanks for sharing! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director --- Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas --- ARKU 104 --- Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 ph --- 479.575.7445 fax --- 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ StrengthQuest Talent Themes: Learner, Input, Maximizer, Intellection, Arranger This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender by reply email and delete the message. Your cooperation is appreciated. +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:52 PM, KRISTA L. GREEAR > wrote: Great question. I provide the accessible files to the faculty along with a short explanation of why they are the recipient of such a prize. Whether they utilize them or not, it's hard to know for sure. I can't really answer your other question as I work specifically with alternate format requests. The next time DRS visits DO-IT we can provide a more comprehensive list. And one part of the project I failed to provide is that 73% of the files I evaluated were PDF, 17% were word docs and the remaining were powerpoints (rough percentages). Krista Greear Access Text & Technology Manager Disability Resources for Students (206) 543-8924 disability.wa.edu ________________________________ From: athen-list [athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] on behalf of Sheryl Burgstahler [sherylb@uw.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:05 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] course inventory assessment Krista, These numbers are very interesting. Thanks for sharing. When you create documents in accessible format for students in a class, does the professor then use the accessible versions in the future? Another question, what are the typical accommodations you provide for a student who has * a visual impairment? * a hearing impairment? * a learning disability? * other disabilities? Thanks. Sheryl ------------------------------------------------------------ Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:17 AM, KRISTA L. GREEAR wrote: I don't have any solutions to offer but I do want to throw out some numbers and see if there are others who are feeling the weight of content conversion for files distributed through LMS. At the UW, we use Canvas, Catalyst (UW home grown LMS), Moodle in spots and Blackboard very infrequently. Most of the reading materials distributed through LMSs are articles or chapters of books or snippets of other texts. I refer to all of these files as "articles" for simplicity. Profs frequently post links to their lecture presentations, which are not required reading per se, but are more of a reference for those who wish to review the material. On to the good stuff -- During Winter quarter (10 weeks long), I had access to 26 different LMS sites because my students needed alt format, mainly files that would work with text-to-speech engines. Kinds of classes: B EDUC, EDTEP, ENVIR, ENV H, GEN ST, GEOG, HSMGMT, LAW, LSJ, NSG, PHYS, SOC, SOC W Average # of articles per class: 42 articles Average # of pages per class: 775 pages Total # of articles for 26 LMS sites: 1,092 articles Total # of pages for 26 LMS sites: 20,054 pages 20,000+ pages! That is simply unbelievable I hope there are some presentations about partnering with faculty regarding LMS content/online content at ATHEN. In the meantime, if anyone has ideas for "low-hanging fruit" regarding accessible content distributed through LMSs, I would appreciate it. This quarter we have 65+ classes using LMSs. Sigh. Best, Krista Krista Greear Accessible Text and Technology Manager Disability Resources for Students Univeristy of Washignton -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Kraus Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:37 PM To: ATHEN Subject: [Athen] course inventory assessment Hi All, Has anyone developed a guide or document to help faculty members assess how much and what types of content they have in their course so they can know what type of work might need to be done to make their course accessible? I was thinking something along the lines of inventorying how many electronic documents you have, and then breaking that down into Word files vs. PDF files, then maybe even breaking things like PDF down to scanned articles, "newsletter" type documents, and converted Word docs. There could be other categories like multimedia, third party web sites, and e-books. Thanks. 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URL: From SolowoniukR at macewan.ca Tue Apr 22 11:24:02 2014 From: SolowoniukR at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] AltFormat Survey In-Reply-To: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> References: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> Message-ID: <53565F62020000EC0002F88B@gatedom2vs.macewan.ca> Hi Ron and all, I'm getting to this a bit late, and, some of our challenges have already been touched on, but here are a few... 1. We have had publishers, mainly Cambridge, tell us that their books are available through Bookshare, so they will not provide us with publisher files. We are located in Canada, so many of the textbooks are not available to us, although I did have someone from Bookshare tell me that they might be able to make some of those textbooks available to us. Many of our students use Read and Write Gold, and I'm not sure how well RWG works with Bookshare files... can anyone comment on this? 2. Publishers who refuse to provide electronic files. These include Penguin, Waveland Press, Random House, and some other smaller publishers. 3. Publishers who still insist on sending files on CD... John Wiley & Sons US and Pearson UK... this greatly increases the turnaround time to get files into the hands of students. 4. Publishers putting out new editions of their textbooks every year or two, with only minor changes to the content. 5. Instructors waiting till the last minute to choose which textbooks they will use for their course. Hope this is helpful. Thanks, Russell Russell Solowoniuk AT Educational Assistant, Services to Students with Disabilities MacEwan University 7-198 D4, 10700-104 Ave. Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca T: 780-497-5826 F: 780-497-4018 macewan.ca This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Please consider the environment before printing this email. >>> "Ron Stewart" 4/2/2014 8:06 AM >>> Good morning all I have been asked to develop a survey of the biggest challenges in the AltFormat space. Can you send me what you find to be the "pain points" in the provision and delivery of your alt format obligations I will work with my team to develop a survey that will be distributed in the coming months. Ron Stewart **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com From gdietrich at htctu.net Tue Apr 22 11:32:34 2014 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] AltFormat Survey In-Reply-To: <53565F62020000EC0002F88B@gatedom2vs.macewan.ca> References: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> <53565F62020000EC0002F88B@gatedom2vs.macewan.ca> Message-ID: <008d01cf5e59$3bba2930$b32e7b90$@htctu.net> Yes R&W Gold works with Bookshare files. Also, if you want Bookshare files in a Word (RTF) format, you can use the free tool from Tech Adapt: http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ I understand the copyright issues you face, but if a publisher is doing the fulfillment for alt formats through Bookshare, perhaps you could ask the publisher for an e-mail giving Bookshare permission to release the file to you. The publisher owns the copyright, so they are well within their rights to direct Bookshare to provide you the file. Good luck! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:24 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey Hi Ron and all, I'm getting to this a bit late, and, some of our challenges have already been touched on, but here are a few... 1. We have had publishers, mainly Cambridge, tell us that their books are available through Bookshare, so they will not provide us with publisher files. We are located in Canada, so many of the textbooks are not available to us, although I did have someone from Bookshare tell me that they might be able to make some of those textbooks available to us. Many of our students use Read and Write Gold, and I'm not sure how well RWG works with Bookshare files... can anyone comment on this? 2. Publishers who refuse to provide electronic files. These include Penguin, Waveland Press, Random House, and some other smaller publishers. 3. Publishers who still insist on sending files on CD... John Wiley & Sons US and Pearson UK... this greatly increases the turnaround time to get files into the hands of students. 4. Publishers putting out new editions of their textbooks every year or two, with only minor changes to the content. 5. Instructors waiting till the last minute to choose which textbooks they will use for their course. Hope this is helpful. Thanks, Russell Russell Solowoniuk AT Educational Assistant, Services to Students with Disabilities MacEwan University 7-198 D4, 10700-104 Ave. Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca T: 780-497-5826 F: 780-497-4018 macewan.ca This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Please consider the environment before printing this email. >>> "Ron Stewart" 4/2/2014 8:06 AM >>> Good morning all I have been asked to develop a survey of the biggest challenges in the AltFormat space. Can you send me what you find to be the "pain points" in the provision and delivery of your alt format obligations I will work with my team to develop a survey that will be distributed in the coming months. Ron Stewart **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From SolowoniukR at macewan.ca Tue Apr 22 11:59:14 2014 From: SolowoniukR at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] AltFormat Survey In-Reply-To: <008d01cf5e59$3bba2930$b32e7b90$@htctu.net> References: <038901cf4e7c$b5ef64f0$21ce2ed0$@altformatsolutions.com> <53565F62020000EC0002F88B@gatedom2vs.macewan.ca> <008d01cf5e59$3bba2930$b32e7b90$@htctu.net> Message-ID: <535667A2020000EC0002F89B@gatedom2vs.macewan.ca> Thanks Gaeir! Very helpful! Russell >>> "Gaeir Dietrich" 4/22/2014 12:32 PM >>> Yes R&W Gold works with Bookshare files. Also, if you want Bookshare files in a Word (RTF) format, you can use the free tool from Tech Adapt: http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ I understand the copyright issues you face, but if a publisher is doing the fulfillment for alt formats through Bookshare, perhaps you could ask the publisher for an e-mail giving Bookshare permission to release the file to you. The publisher owns the copyright, so they are well within their rights to direct Bookshare to provide you the file. Good luck! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:24 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey Hi Ron and all, I'm getting to this a bit late, and, some of our challenges have already been touched on, but here are a few... 1. We have had publishers, mainly Cambridge, tell us that their books are available through Bookshare, so they will not provide us with publisher files. We are located in Canada, so many of the textbooks are not available to us, although I did have someone from Bookshare tell me that they might be able to make some of those textbooks available to us. Many of our students use Read and Write Gold, and I'm not sure how well RWG works with Bookshare files... can anyone comment on this? 2. Publishers who refuse to provide electronic files. These include Penguin, Waveland Press, Random House, and some other smaller publishers. 3. Publishers who still insist on sending files on CD... John Wiley & Sons US and Pearson UK... this greatly increases the turnaround time to get files into the hands of students. 4. Publishers putting out new editions of their textbooks every year or two, with only minor changes to the content. 5. Instructors waiting till the last minute to choose which textbooks they will use for their course. Hope this is helpful. Thanks, Russell Russell Solowoniuk AT Educational Assistant, Services to Students with Disabilities MacEwan University 7-198 D4, 10700-104 Ave. Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca T: 780-497-5826 F: 780-497-4018 macewan.ca This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Please consider the environment before printing this email. >>> "Ron Stewart" 4/2/2014 8:06 AM >>> Good morning all I have been asked to develop a survey of the biggest challenges in the AltFormat space. Can you send me what you find to be the "pain points" in the provision and delivery of your alt format obligations I will work with my team to develop a survey that will be distributed in the coming months. Ron Stewart **************************************************************************** *** Ron Stewart Managing Consultant Altformat Solutions LLC 8300 West Weller St Yorktown, IN 47396 Mobile: 609 213-2190 Fax: 765 405-1484 ron@altformatsolutions.com www.altformatsolutions.com _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From ats169 at psu.edu Wed Apr 23 13:07:42 2014 From: ats169 at psu.edu (Alexa Schriempf) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of Blackboard CMS? Message-ID: Hello - Apologies for any cross-posting: My university is testing Blackboard as a potential CMS that we might switch over to. Any thoughts out there about its accessibility status? Is it accessible, what features should one negotiate for if it's missing accessible baked-in features? Anyone have experience in working with Blackboard to make it more accessible? Feel free to PM or post to list. Thanks! Alexa -- Alexa Schriempf, Access Tech Consultant Office for Disability Services Teaching and Learning with Technology: Accessibility Group Adaptive Technology Services, University Libraries Penn State https://sites.psu.edu/aschriempf/ http://equity.psu.edu/ods http://tlt.its.psu.edu/ http://www.libraries.psu.edu/psul/adaptivetechnologies.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Thu Apr 24 02:57:57 2014 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Microsoft Accessibility MVP Message-ID: <000001cf5fa3$abd7fa80$0387ef80$@karlencommunications.com> Hi Everyone! Am happy to announce that as well as being a Microsoft MVP for Word, I am now also a Microsoft Accessibility MVP! It is a new category of MVP and there are 70 of us worldwide from all main categories of MVP's. Please send any accessibility issues or questions and I'll pass them along! Also any Word issues or questions and I'll try to answer or pass them along! Send them any time they occur to you, this is ongoing with no time limits. Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Thu Apr 24 09:39:05 2014 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (Normajean.Brand) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Microsoft Accessibility MVP In-Reply-To: <000001cf5fa3$abd7fa80$0387ef80$@karlencommunications.com> References: <000001cf5fa3$abd7fa80$0387ef80$@karlencommunications.com> Message-ID: <18AB6E837CD5444FAECD90FCCDBFF54594822497@sy-facmbx02.ad.hccs.edu> Congratulations Karen! It is about time they created this category! :) Well-deserved for someone like yourself who is dedicated to seeing, teaching and advocating for accessibility in Word. Cheers, NJ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 4:58 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Microsoft Accessibility MVP Hi Everyone! Am happy to announce that as well as being a Microsoft MVP for Word, I am now also a Microsoft Accessibility MVP! It is a new category of MVP and there are 70 of us worldwide from all main categories of MVP's. Please send any accessibility issues or questions and I'll pass them along! Also any Word issues or questions and I'll try to answer or pass them along! Send them any time they occur to you, this is ongoing with no time limits. Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From schafercg at missouri.edu Thu Apr 24 15:41:00 2014 From: schafercg at missouri.edu (Schafer, Carmen) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Microsoft Accessibility MVP In-Reply-To: <000001cf5fa3$abd7fa80$0387ef80$@karlencommunications.com> References: <000001cf5fa3$abd7fa80$0387ef80$@karlencommunications.com> Message-ID: <9839CF788879F546B52E216072EE470FAE87F339@UM-MBX-N03.um.umsystem.edu> Congratulations Karen! Although I am not completely familiar with what a Microsoft Accessibility MVP means. What type of accessibility issues or questions we can ask? For example can we ask you: - questions or issues we run into when trying to produce accessible documents from Microsoft Word? - questions or issues we run into when using Word with assistive technology like Jaws? - questions or issues about potential accessibility bugs and add-ons? For example, we have discovered a problem with Microsoft Word 2013 and MathType. - accessibility feature enhancement requests? With appreciation, Carmen Schafer Univ of Missouri | Division of IT | ACT Center http://actcenter.missouri.edu (573)882-8838 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 4:58 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Microsoft Accessibility MVP Hi Everyone! Am happy to announce that as well as being a Microsoft MVP for Word, I am now also a Microsoft Accessibility MVP! It is a new category of MVP and there are 70 of us worldwide from all main categories of MVP's. Please send any accessibility issues or questions and I'll pass them along! Also any Word issues or questions and I'll try to answer or pass them along! Send them any time they occur to you, this is ongoing with no time limits. Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For example can we ask you: - questions or issues we run into when trying to produce accessible documents from Microsoft Word? - questions or issues we run into when using Word with assistive technology like Jaws? - questions or issues about potential accessibility bugs and add-ons? For example, we have discovered a problem with Microsoft Word 2013 and MathType. - accessibility feature enhancement requests? With appreciation, Carmen Schafer Univ of Missouri | Division of IT | ACT Center http://actcenter.missouri.edu (573)882-8838 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 4:58 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Microsoft Accessibility MVP Hi Everyone! Am happy to announce that as well as being a Microsoft MVP for Word, I am now also a Microsoft Accessibility MVP! It is a new category of MVP and there are 70 of us worldwide from all main categories of MVP's. 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Thanks so much for your time. ----- Jeff Bishop Disability Resource Center IT Accessibility Analyst http://drc.arizona.edu Phone: 520-626-1145 Fax : 520-626-5500 Email Address: jeffbis@email.arizona.edu Address: The University of Arizona Building 95 Room #: 217C 1224 E Lowell St. Tucson, AZ 85721-0095 -- The opinions or statements expressed herein are my own and should not be taken as a position, opinion, or endorsement of The University of Arizona. The information contained in this e-mail message is privileged and confidential information, intended only for the use of the specific individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petri.1 at osu.edu Fri Apr 25 13:15:50 2014 From: petri.1 at osu.edu (Petri, Kenneth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Articulate Story Line In-Reply-To: <9D8D3F65EADC0844939399EC1C6F42D54041DD22@BigThunder.catnet.arizona.edu> References: <9D8D3F65EADC0844939399EC1C6F42D54041DD22@BigThunder.catnet.arizona.edu> Message-ID: The previous HTML5 version is completely inaccessible. Impossible to use for keyboard or screen reader. The Flash version can be made decently accessible with a lot of work from the content creator. And then, for screen reader users, you are limited to Windows for Flash accessibility, of course. There is apparently a newly updated HTML5 version. I have not tested this yet. ken [The Ohio State University] Ken Petri, Program Director Web Accessibility Center, ADA Coordinator's Office and Office for Disability Services 102D Pomerene Hall | 1760 Neil Ave. Columbus, OH 43210 614-292-1760 Office | 614-218-1499 Mobile | 614-292-4190 Fax petri.1@osu.edu | wac.osu.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bishop, Jeff - (jeffbis) Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 3:28 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Articulate Story Line Hello Everyone, Has anyone had any experience with the accessibility of Articulate Story Line? We are being asked to evaluate some sites that are written with this technology and I wanted to see if anyone else has done anything with this product and screen readers? Thanks so much for your time. ----- Jeff Bishop Disability Resource Center IT Accessibility Analyst http://drc.arizona.edu Phone: 520-626-1145 Fax : 520-626-5500 Email Address: jeffbis@email.arizona.edu Address: The University of Arizona Building 95 Room #: 217C 1224 E Lowell St. Tucson, AZ 85721-0095 -- The opinions or statements expressed herein are my own and should not be taken as a position, opinion, or endorsement of The University of Arizona. The information contained in this e-mail message is privileged and confidential information, intended only for the use of the specific individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Petri, Kenneth Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 1:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Articulate Story Line The previous HTML5 version is completely inaccessible. Impossible to use for keyboard or screen reader. The Flash version can be made decently accessible with a lot of work from the content creator. And then, for screen reader users, you are limited to Windows for Flash accessibility, of course. There is apparently a newly updated HTML5 version. I have not tested this yet. ken [The Ohio State University] Ken Petri, Program Director Web Accessibility Center, ADA Coordinator's Office and Office for Disability Services 102D Pomerene Hall | 1760 Neil Ave. Columbus, OH 43210 614-292-1760 Office | 614-218-1499 Mobile | 614-292-4190 Fax petri.1@osu.edu | wac.osu.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bishop, Jeff - (jeffbis) Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 3:28 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Articulate Story Line Hello Everyone, Has anyone had any experience with the accessibility of Articulate Story Line? We are being asked to evaluate some sites that are written with this technology and I wanted to see if anyone else has done anything with this product and screen readers? Thanks so much for your time. ----- Jeff Bishop Disability Resource Center IT Accessibility Analyst http://drc.arizona.edu Phone: 520-626-1145 Fax : 520-626-5500 Email Address: jeffbis@email.arizona.edu Address: The University of Arizona Building 95 Room #: 217C 1224 E Lowell St. Tucson, AZ 85721-0095 -- The opinions or statements expressed herein are my own and should not be taken as a position, opinion, or endorsement of The University of Arizona. The information contained in this e-mail message is privileged and confidential information, intended only for the use of the specific individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There are discussions about specific accessibility issues in their discussion forums, so you may find more details there. -Madeleine -- Madeleine Rothberg Project Director Carl and Ruth Shapiro Family National Center for Accessible Media at WGBH http://ncam.wgbh.org madeleine_rothberg@wgbh.org From: , "Jeff - (jeffbis)" > Reply-To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Date: Friday, April 25, 2014 5:41 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Articulate Story Line Ken, The site we tried here wouldn?t allow for menu selections to change content as well as clicking on the next button would change the content on the screen but the screen reader would not see the changes. My guess is this is an implementation issue and I will dig into this :). Thanks so much. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Petri, Kenneth Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 1:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Articulate Story Line The previous HTML5 version is completely inaccessible. Impossible to use for keyboard or screen reader. The Flash version can be made decently accessible with a lot of work from the content creator. And then, for screen reader users, you are limited to Windows for Flash accessibility, of course. There is apparently a newly updated HTML5 version. I have not tested this yet. ken [The Ohio State University] Ken Petri, Program Director Web Accessibility Center, ADA Coordinator's Office and Office for Disability Services 102D Pomerene Hall | 1760 Neil Ave. Columbus, OH 43210 614-292-1760 Office | 614-218-1499 Mobile | 614-292-4190 Fax petri.1@osu.edu | wac.osu.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bishop, Jeff - (jeffbis) Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 3:28 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Articulate Story Line Hello Everyone, Has anyone had any experience with the accessibility of Articulate Story Line? We are being asked to evaluate some sites that are written with this technology and I wanted to see if anyone else has done anything with this product and screen readers? Thanks so much for your time. ----- Jeff Bishop Disability Resource Center IT Accessibility Analyst http://drc.arizona.edu Phone: 520-626-1145 Fax : 520-626-5500 Email Address: jeffbis@email.arizona.edu Address: The University of Arizona Building 95 Room #: 217C 1224 E Lowell St. Tucson, AZ 85721-0095 -- The opinions or statements expressed herein are my own and should not be taken as a position, opinion, or endorsement of The University of Arizona. The information contained in this e-mail message is privileged and confidential information, intended only for the use of the specific individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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She's sitting in an office I think. It's probably not more than 2 minutes long. It's meant to simulate the experience of someone who is deaf or hard of hearing watching a video with no captions for someone who is hearing. Any idea what video I am talking about??? Or have ideas for a similar video? Thanks! Brenden Goetz Assistive Technology Specialist Disability Services Program University of Denver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Cassandra.Tex at humboldt.edu Mon Apr 28 11:57:31 2014 From: Cassandra.Tex at humboldt.edu (Cassandra L. Tex) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Video on hearing impaired experience with no captions In-Reply-To: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CCAA883@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> References: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CCAA883@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> Message-ID: I think this is what you're looking for... http://youtu.be/MCm1Emtqo_Q Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Paul E. Paire *Sent:* Monday, April 28, 2014 11:42 AM *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Video on hearing impaired experience with no captions Similar video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33krnU_juFE Produced by NCSU IT Accessibility -Paul *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Brenden Goetz *Sent:* Monday, April 28, 2014 2:31 PM *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu *Subject:* [Athen] Video on hearing impaired experience with no captions Trying to track down an online video that I can't seem to find... It's of a woman signing with no captions or audio component, then she signs the same thing again with captions. She's sitting in an office I think. It's probably not more than 2 minutes long. It's meant to simulate the experience of someone who is deaf or hard of hearing watching a video with no captions for someone who is hearing. Any idea what video I am talking about??? Or have ideas for a similar video? 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URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Mon Apr 28 12:28:49 2014 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Position Opening - University of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <012901cf6318$15624380$4026ca80$@htctu.net> Subject: Position Opening - University of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign Position Description IT Accessibility Specialist Disability Resources and Educational Services (DRES) College of Applied Health Sciences (AHS) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign The IT Accessibility Specialist position is under the direction of the Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology (ACIT) at DRES and supports the development and use of accessible design principles for the creation and purchasing of accessible information technologies for use by students, faculty and staff with disabilities at Illinois. The specialist provides technical support to campus web and software developers, and organizes and leads consortia comprised of institutional, organizational and corporate partners which work to improve the accessibility of specific third-party web resources and software applications. Technical support includes helping developers understand how to evaluate and test web and software applications for accessibility. The specialist will support the development of an accessible coding practices library to provide examples on accessible design for use by developers. The position will be responsible for the creation and maintenance of online reports on the progress and current status of the accessibility of third-party web and software resources, recruitment of institutions and organizations to participate in accessibility consortiums. The specialist will assist in the dissemination of accessible design coding practices and related tools, and may also assist students with disabilities in learning how to access electronic resources. The specialist will also contribute to the development and execution of an online IT accessibility certificate program within AHS. Qualifications: * Bachelor's degree (masters preferred) in computer science or a closely related field * At least one year of experience in accessible design or a strong desire to learn about accessible design * Software development experience * Strong organization and communication skills Preferred Qualifications: * Knowledge and experience with Windows, OS X and Linux operating systems * Experience using assistive technologies, including screen readers * Experience working with people with disabilities * Experience and knowledge of the following web development technologies: * HTML/CSS * Javascript * Python/Django * XML * POSTGRES database * Experience and knowledge of the following web guidelines and standards: * W3C Web Content Accessibility Guidelines * Federal Section 508 Information Technology Accessibility Standards. * W3C Accessible Rich Internet Accessibility Specification * HTML5 Specification Other Salary is commensurate with experience and qualifications. This is a regular, full-time (100%) academic professional position. Starting date is as soon as possible after closing date. To Apply To ensure full consideration, create your candidate profile at http://jobs.illinois.edu and upload your letter of application, resume, and names and contact information of three professional references by June 2, 2014. Applicants may be interviewed before the closing date; however, no hiring decision will be made until after that date. For further information, please contact: Mindy Rick, Search Coordinator 1207 S Oak St, Champaign, IL 61820 (217) 333-4600 mindy@illinois.edu http://disability.illinois.edu Illinois is an equal opportunity employer which includes statuses of protected veterans and qualified individuals with disabilities (www.diversity.illinois.edu/chancellorscstmt.html). Illinois welcomes individuals with diverse backgrounds, experiences, and ideas who embrace and value diversity and inclusivity. (www.inclusiveillinois.illinois.edu) Angella L. Anderson, MS, CRC Disability Specialist, Accessible Media Services Coordinator Disability Resources and Educational Services 1207 S. Oak St. Rm. 86 Champaign, IL 61820 (ph) 217-244-3983 (fax) 217-333-0248 Aanders2@illinois.edu http://www.disability.illinois.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Brenden.Goetz at du.edu Mon Apr 28 12:55:20 2014 From: Brenden.Goetz at du.edu (Brenden Goetz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Video on hearing impaired experience with no captions Message-ID: Thank you both for the video links. Exactly what I was looking for. Brenden Goetz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Andrea.Engle at utoledo.edu Mon Apr 28 13:47:25 2014 From: Andrea.Engle at utoledo.edu (Engle, Andrea June) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] fillable forms Message-ID: <84A066196BA6E54AB3C51373309B728FE517F73A@msgdb10.utad.utoledo.edu> Hi there, our office is working on making accessible fillable forms. I do not have a lot of experience with this. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do so. What is better for this Word or Adobe or another program? I just want to make sure that I am creating the forms as accessible as they possibility can. Thank you, Andrea Engle Academic Accommodation Specialist Student Disability Services The University of Toledo 2801 W. Bancroft St. MS#342 Toledo, OH 43606-3390 Phone: 419-530-4981 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gardnerj at onid.orst.edu Mon Apr 28 14:23:20 2014 From: gardnerj at onid.orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] fillable forms In-Reply-To: <84A066196BA6E54AB3C51373309B728FE517F73A@msgdb10.utad.utoledo.edu> References: <84A066196BA6E54AB3C51373309B728FE517F73A@msgdb10.utad.utoledo.edu> Message-ID: <00d001cf6328$159a0210$40ce0630$@orst.edu> Html forms are accessible unless somebody gets too cute. Word and PDF are usually not very accessible. At least not without a huge amount of understanding and care. Use html John Gardner From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Engle, Andrea June Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:47 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: [Athen] fillable forms Hi there, our office is working on making accessible fillable forms. I do not have a lot of experience with this. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do so. What is better for this Word or Adobe or another program? I just want to make sure that I am creating the forms as accessible as they possibility can. Thank you, Andrea Engle Academic Accommodation Specialist Student Disability Services The University of Toledo 2801 W. Bancroft St. MS#342 Toledo, OH 43606-3390 Phone: 419-530-4981 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at nau.edu Mon Apr 28 15:12:38 2014 From: Teresa.Haven at nau.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] cloud sharing accessibility question Message-ID: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FD9F597D@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Hello, all. I have experienced the in/accessibility of several different cloud sharing services, but today I was asked about Sharefile and Dilbertfiles, neither of which I've used or tested. Neither company has any accessibility info on their website, so before I go to the work of signing up and testing them myself, has anyone else already had any experience with either service? Thanks in advance, Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst Northern Arizona University (928) 523-6042 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at altformatsolutions.com Mon Apr 28 21:23:54 2014 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] fillable forms In-Reply-To: <84A066196BA6E54AB3C51373309B728FE517F73A@msgdb10.utad.utoledo.edu> References: <84A066196BA6E54AB3C51373309B728FE517F73A@msgdb10.utad.utoledo.edu> Message-ID: <0a3001cf6362$d50fefd0$7f2fcf70$@altformatsolutions.com> Hi Andrea it actually really depends on the disability. For folks who are low vision or blind often times the best way to go is to create them in HTML, but then it also depends on what browser they are using. For others in our remediation work we have found the PDF forms to be the most usable and reliable but they need to be created in a recent version of ADOBE Acrobat. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Engle, Andrea June Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 3:47 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: [Athen] fillable forms Hi there, our office is working on making accessible fillable forms. I do not have a lot of experience with this. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do so. What is better for this Word or Adobe or another program? I just want to make sure that I am creating the forms as accessible as they possibility can. Thank you, Andrea Engle Academic Accommodation Specialist Student Disability Services The University of Toledo 2801 W. Bancroft St. MS#342 Toledo, OH 43606-3390 Phone: 419-530-4981 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From burke at ucla.edu Mon Apr 28 22:43:52 2014 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Free version of Window Eyes In-Reply-To: <0a8e01cf6365$8c6a30d0$a53e9270$@gmail.com> References: <0a8e01cf6365$8c6a30d0$a53e9270$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201404290546.s3T5kTHb022255@mail.ucla.edu> Hi Ron, I don't have it installed, but iirc it is the full version of WindowEyes. It just checks for an MS Office license when WinEyes starts up. Patrick At 09:43 PM 4/28/2014, Ron Stewart wrote: >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0A8F_01CF633B.A394C510" >Content-language: en-us > >Hi all a question came up recently and I wanted to see if this >informed group could provide input. Does the free version of >WindowEyes provide a full screen reader experience or is it limited >to the MS Office Suite? I have the full version and do not want to >do a duplicate install if I do not have to. > >Ron > > >_______________________________________________ >athen-list mailing list >athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From ronrstewart at gmail.com Mon Apr 28 22:54:29 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Free version of Window Eyes In-Reply-To: <201404290546.s3T5kTHb022255@mail.ucla.edu> References: <0a8e01cf6365$8c6a30d0$a53e9270$@gmail.com> <201404290546.s3T5kTHb022255@mail.ucla.edu> Message-ID: Thanks I have read their marketing stuff. I guess that brings up a secondary question, does it work easily as well with private licenses as institutional licensing? Ron On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Patrick Burke wrote: > Hi Ron, > > I don't have it installed, but iirc it is the full version of WindowEyes. > It just checks for an MS Office license when WinEyes starts up. > > Patrick > > At 09:43 PM 4/28/2014, Ron Stewart wrote: > >> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0A8F_01CF633B.A394C510" >> Content-language: en-us >> >> Hi all a question came up recently and I wanted to see if this informed >> group could provide input. Does the free version of WindowEyes provide a >> full screen reader experience or is it limited to the MS Office Suite? I >> have the full version and do not want to do a duplicate install if I do not >> have to. >> >> Ron >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Mon Apr 28 23:30:29 2014 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey A Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Free version of Window Eyes In-Reply-To: References: <0a8e01cf6365$8c6a30d0$a53e9270$@gmail.com> <201404290546.s3T5kTHb022255@mail.ucla.edu> Message-ID: <4CB1FDFA-04E7-4B99-9AEB-CC8D8DA49528@gmail.com> WindowEyes works just as well with private or institutional licensing for Microsoft office. The only difference between the paid version and free version of window eyes is that it includes access to fewer voices, does not include the accessible Skype client, and does not include all the technical support. The free version looks for the activation associated with your Microsoft 2010 or 2013 product. I had installed on a surface Pro two and for some reason the surface lost the activation for my office 2013. When I tried to load WindowEyes it came up with an error message that it could not find an activation and would not work Jeff Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. > On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:54 AM, Ron wrote: > > Thanks I have read their marketing stuff. > > I guess that brings up a secondary question, does it work easily as well with private licenses as institutional licensing? > > Ron > >> On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Patrick Burke wrote: >> Hi Ron, >> >> I don't have it installed, but iirc it is the full version of WindowEyes. It just checks for an MS Office license when WinEyes starts up. >> >> Patrick >> >> At 09:43 PM 4/28/2014, Ron Stewart wrote: >>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >>> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0A8F_01CF633B.A394C510" >>> Content-language: en-us >>> >>> Hi all a question came up recently and I wanted to see if this informed group could provide input. Does the free version of WindowEyes provide a full screen reader experience or is it limited to the MS Office Suite? I have the full version and do not want to do a duplicate install if I do not have to. >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Mon Apr 28 23:41:41 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Free version of Window Eyes In-Reply-To: <4CB1FDFA-04E7-4B99-9AEB-CC8D8DA49528@gmail.com> References: <0a8e01cf6365$8c6a30d0$a53e9270$@gmail.com> <201404290546.s3T5kTHb022255@mail.ucla.edu> <4CB1FDFA-04E7-4B99-9AEB-CC8D8DA49528@gmail.com> Message-ID: So is this based on personal experience? Sounds not, what is the basis of your comments? Your fails reflect my concerns, it came up with error messages... Ron On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Jeffrey A Dell wrote: > WindowEyes works just as well with private or institutional licensing for > Microsoft office. > The only difference between the paid version and free version of window > eyes is that it includes access to fewer voices, does not include the > accessible Skype client, and does not include all the technical support. > The free version looks for the activation associated with your Microsoft > 2010 or 2013 product. I had installed on a surface Pro two and for some > reason the surface lost the activation for my office 2013. When I tried to > load WindowEyes it came up with an error message that it could not find an > activation and would not work > Jeff > > Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation > feature. > > On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:54 AM, Ron > > wrote: > > Thanks I have read their marketing stuff. > > I guess that brings up a secondary question, does it work easily as well > with private licenses as institutional licensing? > > Ron > > On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Patrick Burke > > wrote: > >> Hi Ron, >> >> I don't have it installed, but iirc it is the full version of WindowEyes. >> It just checks for an MS Office license when WinEyes starts up. >> >> Patrick >> >> At 09:43 PM 4/28/2014, Ron Stewart wrote: >> >>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >>> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0A8F_01CF633B.A394C510" >>> Content-language: en-us >>> >>> Hi all a question came up recently and I wanted to see if this informed >>> group could provide input. Does the free version of WindowEyes provide a >>> full screen reader experience or is it limited to the MS Office Suite? I >>> have the full version and do not want to do a duplicate install if I do not >>> have to. >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 01:02:34 2014 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey A Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Free version of Window Eyes In-Reply-To: References: <0a8e01cf6365$8c6a30d0$a53e9270$@gmail.com> <201404290546.s3T5kTHb022255@mail.ucla.edu> <4CB1FDFA-04E7-4B99-9AEB-CC8D8DA49528@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2C808248-5E1F-4C6A-B373-DA8088535C59@gmail.com> Yes, it is based on personal experience. If someone is running a full paid version of WindowEyes there would be little reason to install the free version unless their license is old and not eligible for upgrades. I have installed the program on the computers in my computer lab to start to learn WindowEyes and make it available to my students. We run Office 2010 in our labs. It worked well on our Surface Pro 2 with Office 2013 until a recent update caused it to lose the activation for Office. Then I got the error mesage that at this time in the morning I cannot remember what the dialog said. If you are wondering if it works with something liek Open Office as well as MS Office I cannot answer that because I do not use Open Office. It does provide accessibility to more than Microsoft programs. It is the full version of WindowEyes with the minor limitations stated in my last e-mail. My experience with it so far has been running it with IE, Mozilla Firefox, and MS Ofice to learn its hotkeys since I am regularly a JAWS user. Jeff Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. > On Apr 29, 2014, at 2:41 AM, Ron wrote: > > So is this based on personal experience? Sounds not, what is the basis of your comments? Your fails reflect my concerns, it came up with error messages... > > Ron > >> On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Jeffrey A Dell wrote: >> WindowEyes works just as well with private or institutional licensing for Microsoft office. >> The only difference between the paid version and free version of window eyes is that it includes access to fewer voices, does not include the accessible Skype client, and does not include all the technical support. >> The free version looks for the activation associated with your Microsoft 2010 or 2013 product. I had installed on a surface Pro two and for some reason the surface lost the activation for my office 2013. When I tried to load WindowEyes it came up with an error message that it could not find an activation and would not work >> Jeff >> >> Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. >> >>> On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:54 AM, Ron wrote: >>> >>> Thanks I have read their marketing stuff. >>> >>> I guess that brings up a secondary question, does it work easily as well with private licenses as institutional licensing? >>> >>> Ron >>> >>>> On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Patrick Burke wrote: >>>> Hi Ron, >>>> >>>> I don't have it installed, but iirc it is the full version of WindowEyes. It just checks for an MS Office license when WinEyes starts up. >>>> >>>> Patrick >>>> >>>> At 09:43 PM 4/28/2014, Ron Stewart wrote: >>>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >>>>> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0A8F_01CF633B.A394C510" >>>>> Content-language: en-us >>>>> >>>>> Hi all a question came up recently and I wanted to see if this informed group could provide input. Does the free version of WindowEyes provide a full screen reader experience or is it limited to the MS Office Suite? I have the full version and do not want to do a duplicate install if I do not have to. >>>>> >>>>> Ron >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> athen-list mailing list >>>>> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >>>>> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> athen-list mailing list >>>> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >>>> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johumber at iu.edu Tue Apr 29 05:32:18 2014 From: johumber at iu.edu (Humbert, Joseph A) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Free version of Window Eyes In-Reply-To: <2C808248-5E1F-4C6A-B373-DA8088535C59@gmail.com> References: <0a8e01cf6365$8c6a30d0$a53e9270$@gmail.com> <201404290546.s3T5kTHb022255@mail.ucla.edu> <4CB1FDFA-04E7-4B99-9AEB-CC8D8DA49528@gmail.com> <2C808248-5E1F-4C6A-B373-DA8088535C59@gmail.com> Message-ID: <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B75558DC914@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> Hi Ron, I have installed and tested Window Eyes Free version on our test machine here at IU. Office 2010 was previously installed on the machine. Window Eyes activated and worked just fine with office and with Web accessibility testing in Firefox and Internet Explorer. Thankx. Sincerely, Joe Joe Humbert, Principal Accessibility Analyst UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University ? Bloomington/Indianapolis 535 W Michigan St. IT210 F Indianapolis, IN 46202 http://iuadapts.iu.edu (317) 274-4378 [Direct Line] (317) 274-6482 [Main Office] johumber@iu.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email message, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you may NOT use, disclose, copy, or disseminate this information. Please contact the sender by reply email immediately and destroy all copies of the original message including all attachments. Even if you are an intended recipient of this email, the author requests that you not forward it to any other person without prior consent. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Jeffrey A Dell Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 4:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Free version of Window Eyes Yes, it is based on personal experience. If someone is running a full paid version of WindowEyes there would be little reason to install the free version unless their license is old and not eligible for upgrades. I have installed the program on the computers in my computer lab to start to learn WindowEyes and make it available to my students. We run Office 2010 in our labs. It worked well on our Surface Pro 2 with Office 2013 until a recent update caused it to lose the activation for Office. Then I got the error mesage that at this time in the morning I cannot remember what the dialog said. If you are wondering if it works with something liek Open Office as well as MS Office I cannot answer that because I do not use Open Office. It does provide accessibility to more than Microsoft programs. It is the full version of WindowEyes with the minor limitations stated in my last e-mail. My experience with it so far has been running it with IE, Mozilla Firefox, and MS Ofice to learn its hotkeys since I am regularly a JAWS user. Jeff Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. On Apr 29, 2014, at 2:41 AM, Ron > wrote: So is this based on personal experience? Sounds not, what is the basis of your comments? Your fails reflect my concerns, it came up with error messages... Ron On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Jeffrey A Dell > wrote: WindowEyes works just as well with private or institutional licensing for Microsoft office. The only difference between the paid version and free version of window eyes is that it includes access to fewer voices, does not include the accessible Skype client, and does not include all the technical support. The free version looks for the activation associated with your Microsoft 2010 or 2013 product. I had installed on a surface Pro two and for some reason the surface lost the activation for my office 2013. When I tried to load WindowEyes it came up with an error message that it could not find an activation and would not work Jeff Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:54 AM, Ron > wrote: Thanks I have read their marketing stuff. I guess that brings up a secondary question, does it work easily as well with private licenses as institutional licensing? Ron On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Patrick Burke > wrote: Hi Ron, I don't have it installed, but iirc it is the full version of WindowEyes. It just checks for an MS Office license when WinEyes starts up. Patrick At 09:43 PM 4/28/2014, Ron Stewart wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0A8F_01CF633B.A394C510" Content-language: en-us Hi all a question came up recently and I wanted to see if this informed group could provide input. Does the free version of WindowEyes provide a full screen reader experience or is it limited to the MS Office Suite? I have the full version and do not want to do a duplicate install if I do not have to. Ron _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perionhesse at nwacc.edu Tue Apr 29 05:50:43 2014 From: perionhesse at nwacc.edu (Erion-Hesse, Patricia A.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology Message-ID: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690B49@byss.nwacc.edu> Does anyone have recommendations for a reasonably priced text-to-speech software that accurately reads medical terminology? Thanks for your help. Pat H. 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Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology In-Reply-To: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690B49@byss.nwacc.edu> References: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690B49@byss.nwacc.edu> Message-ID: <9FE11CF39AD78F4C9FA12F7954AE9F56F9EF86B689@EXCHANGE.pstcc.edu> You may want to try Snap and Read from Don Johnston. I've tried it on a medical dictionary web site, but do not know enough about some of the advanced terminology pronunciations to be sure it will meet your needs. http://donjohnston.com/snap-read-pricing/ Alice Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P. Technology Specialist Disability Services Pellissippi State Community College 10915 Hardin Valley Road Knoxville TN 37933-0990 (865) 694-6751 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Erion-Hesse, Patricia A. Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:51 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology Does anyone have recommendations for a reasonably priced text-to-speech software that accurately reads medical terminology? Thanks for your help. Pat H. Patricia Erion-Hesse, M.A. Disability Resources Accessible Media Lab Technician NorthWest Arkansas Community College AltText@nwacc.edu Main office (479) 986-4076 Phone (479) 986-4031 Fax (479) 619-4119 [cid:image001.png@01CF638D.62B98E20][cid:image002.gif@01CF638D.62B98E20] Office Hours: 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Monday 8:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Tuesday - Thursday 9:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Friday [cid:image003.jpg@01CF638D.62B98E20] "This message is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, distribute or copy this email. 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Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology In-Reply-To: <9FE11CF39AD78F4C9FA12F7954AE9F56F9EF86B689@EXCHANGE.pstcc.edu> References: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690B49@byss.nwacc.edu> <9FE11CF39AD78F4C9FA12F7954AE9F56F9EF86B689@EXCHANGE.pstcc.edu> Message-ID: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690B89@byss.nwacc.edu> Thanks for the info. I appreciate it. Pat H. Patricia Erion-Hesse, M.A. Disability Resources Accessible Media Lab Technician NorthWest Arkansas Community College AltText@nwacc.edu Main office (479) 986-4076 Phone (479) 986-4031 Fax (479) 619-4119 [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image002.png@01CE65E5.C0146000][Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image003.gif@01CE65E5.C0146000] Office Hours: 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Monday 8:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Tuesday - Thursday 9:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Friday [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image008.jpg@01CD47B8.671311F0] "This message is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately that you are not the person for whom this email was intended and delete this email from your system." From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Wershing, Alice D. Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:29 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology You may want to try Snap and Read from Don Johnston. I've tried it on a medical dictionary web site, but do not know enough about some of the advanced terminology pronunciations to be sure it will meet your needs. http://donjohnston.com/snap-read-pricing/ Alice Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P. Technology Specialist Disability Services Pellissippi State Community College 10915 Hardin Valley Road Knoxville TN 37933-0990 (865) 694-6751 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Erion-Hesse, Patricia A. Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:51 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology Does anyone have recommendations for a reasonably priced text-to-speech software that accurately reads medical terminology? Thanks for your help. Pat H. Patricia Erion-Hesse, M.A. Disability Resources Accessible Media Lab Technician NorthWest Arkansas Community College AltText@nwacc.edu Main office (479) 986-4076 Phone (479) 986-4031 Fax (479) 619-4119 [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image002.png@01CE65E5.C0146000][Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image003.gif@01CE65E5.C0146000] Office Hours: 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Monday 8:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Tuesday - Thursday 9:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Friday [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image008.jpg@01CD47B8.671311F0] "This message is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. 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Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 7:51 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology Does anyone have recommendations for a reasonably priced text-to-speech software that accurately reads medical terminology? Thanks for your help. Pat H. Patricia Erion-Hesse, M.A. Disability Resources Accessible Media Lab Technician NorthWest Arkansas Community College AltText@nwacc.edu Main office (479) 986-4076 Phone (479) 986-4031 Fax (479) 619-4119 Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image002.png@01CE65E5.C0146000 Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image003.gif@01CE65E5.C0146000 Office Hours: 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Monday 8:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Tuesday - Thursday 9:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Friday Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image008.jpg@01CD47B8.671311F0 "This message is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. 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Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14859 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ron at altformatsolutions.com Tue Apr 29 08:12:20 2014 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Alt Format Position In-Reply-To: <75492C7F3922AC4DAEFF50EC831C35145F43552A@MAILSRV06.cua.edu> References: <75492C7F3922AC4DAEFF50EC831C35145F43552A@MAILSRV06.cua.edu> Message-ID: <0eb001cf63bd$6b1dfd50$4159f7f0$@altformatsolutions.com> This is a great position in a great program that I helped create. Ron Stewart From: Lucio, Emily Singer [mailto:LUCIO@cua.edu] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 9:56 AM To: aheadmembers@listserve.com Cc: Ron Stewart Subject: Alt Format Position http://humanresources.cua.edu/positions/current.cfm Alternate Format Supervisor and Assistive Technology Specialist (full-time, 35 hours/week). Open until filled Disability Support Services 101335 Position Summary: The Office of Disability Support Services (DSS) provides programs and services designed to support and encourage the integration of students with disabilities into the mainstream of the university community. DSS coordinates support services for students with learning and attention disabilities, physical disabilities, psychological disabilities, and some illnesses. Services include disability advocacy and advising, classroom and test accommodations, early registration, housing accommodations, assistance with foreign language substitution applications, books in electronic format, assistive technology, and referral for testing and additional services. In addition, DSS provides faculty and staff training and consultation on disability issues, and actively supports university recruitment and retention initiatives. Reporting to the Director of Disability Support Services, The Alternate Format Supervisor and Assistive Technology Specialist is acts to support the integration of students with disabilities into the student community by ensuring equal access to all print materials and technology. In this capacity, the Alternate Format Supervisor and Assistive Technology Specialist works with undergraduate, graduate and Law School students, in accordance with the regulations established under disability law. The Alternate Format Supervisor and Assistive Technology Specialist is responsible for developing, implementing and evaluating alternative formatting systems and processes in order to maintain quality control of the conversion process. This position is also responsible for working with students to provide training on assistive technology and to ensure that the available technology is meeting the needs of the students. Essential Responsibilities Include: Supervise the coordination of the alternative format process. Organize and order the books and documents to be converted. Work with faculty and academic departments to obtain books. Assign jobs to student workers. Ensure that the process runs smoothly throughout the day. Train new student workers in the alternative format production process. Update completion process for each book each day and determine where to start the next day. Work with students to ensure that they get the materials in the format they need. Respond to any questions, comments or complaints about the product. Compile data and statistics reflecting progress in the conversion process. Work 1:1 with students needing training in assistive technology. Coordinate with CPIT to ensure the assistive technology is meeting the needs of the students. Minimum Qualifications: A Bachelor degree is required. A minimum of two (2) years of experience working with the development of electronic text and/ or assistive technology and students with disabilities. Knowledge of Assistive or Instructive Technology, Alternative format production is required. Strong computer skills, including Microsoft Office (specifically Access and Excel) applications and database management software (PeopleSoft preferred). Must possess: working knowledge of the Americans with Disabilities Act Amendments (ADAAA) and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973; The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) ), Louisiana Tech University Settlement Agreement, Authors Guild, Inc. v. Hathi Trust, S.D. N.Y (2012), The Chafee Amendment and other appropriate laws pertaining to higher education and disability; strong knowledge of learning disabilities, attention deficit disorder, sensory, physical, psychological, and other disabilities as manifested in the post-secondary population; ability to translate a mission and vision into successful programs and services; and the ability to work collegially and collaboratively to develop effective student-oriented services. For immediate consideration, please forward 1) resume, 2) cover letter, and 3) salary requirements to recruiterb@lists.cua.edu. You must include your salary requirements in your application to be considered. Please quote position number 101335 in your correspondence. 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Ron From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Humbert, Joseph A Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 7:32 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Free version of Window Eyes Hi Ron, I have installed and tested Window Eyes Free version on our test machine here at IU. Office 2010 was previously installed on the machine. Window Eyes activated and worked just fine with office and with Web accessibility testing in Firefox and Internet Explorer. Thankx. Sincerely, Joe Joe Humbert, Principal Accessibility Analyst UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University ? Bloomington/Indianapolis 535 W Michigan St. IT210 F Indianapolis, IN 46202 http://iuadapts.iu.edu (317) 274-4378 [Direct Line] (317) 274-6482 [Main Office] johumber@iu.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email message, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you may NOT use, disclose, copy, or disseminate this information. Please contact the sender by reply email immediately and destroy all copies of the original message including all attachments. Even if you are an intended recipient of this email, the author requests that you not forward it to any other person without prior consent. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Jeffrey A Dell Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 4:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Free version of Window Eyes Yes, it is based on personal experience. If someone is running a full paid version of WindowEyes there would be little reason to install the free version unless their license is old and not eligible for upgrades. I have installed the program on the computers in my computer lab to start to learn WindowEyes and make it available to my students. We run Office 2010 in our labs. It worked well on our Surface Pro 2 with Office 2013 until a recent update caused it to lose the activation for Office. Then I got the error mesage that at this time in the morning I cannot remember what the dialog said. If you are wondering if it works with something liek Open Office as well as MS Office I cannot answer that because I do not use Open Office. It does provide accessibility to more than Microsoft programs. It is the full version of WindowEyes with the minor limitations stated in my last e-mail. My experience with it so far has been running it with IE, Mozilla Firefox, and MS Ofice to learn its hotkeys since I am regularly a JAWS user. Jeff Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. On Apr 29, 2014, at 2:41 AM, Ron wrote: So is this based on personal experience? Sounds not, what is the basis of your comments? Your fails reflect my concerns, it came up with error messages... Ron On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Jeffrey A Dell wrote: WindowEyes works just as well with private or institutional licensing for Microsoft office. The only difference between the paid version and free version of window eyes is that it includes access to fewer voices, does not include the accessible Skype client, and does not include all the technical support. The free version looks for the activation associated with your Microsoft 2010 or 2013 product. I had installed on a surface Pro two and for some reason the surface lost the activation for my office 2013. When I tried to load WindowEyes it came up with an error message that it could not find an activation and would not work Jeff Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:54 AM, Ron > wrote: Thanks I have read their marketing stuff. I guess that brings up a secondary question, does it work easily as well with private licenses as institutional licensing? Ron On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Patrick Burke > wrote: Hi Ron, I don't have it installed, but iirc it is the full version of WindowEyes. It just checks for an MS Office license when WinEyes starts up. Patrick At 09:43 PM 4/28/2014, Ron Stewart wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0A8F_01CF633B.A394C510" Content-language: en-us Hi all a question came up recently and I wanted to see if this informed group could provide input. Does the free version of WindowEyes provide a full screen reader experience or is it limited to the MS Office Suite? I have the full version and do not want to do a duplicate install if I do not have to. 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Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology In-Reply-To: <0eaa01cf63bd$3913ee50$ab3bcaf0$@altformatsolutions.com> References: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690B49@byss.nwacc.edu> <0eaa01cf63bd$3913ee50$ab3bcaf0$@altformatsolutions.com> Message-ID: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690CB5@byss.nwacc.edu> Thanks, Ron. I appreciate the info. PH Patricia Erion-Hesse, M.A. Disability Resources Accessible Media Lab Technician NorthWest Arkansas Community College AltText@nwacc.edu Main office (479) 986-4076 Phone (479) 986-4031 Fax (479) 619-4119 [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image002.png@01CE65E5.C0146000][Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image003.gif@01CE65E5.C0146000] Office Hours: 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Monday 8:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Tuesday - Thursday 9:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Friday [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image008.jpg@01CD47B8.671311F0] "This message is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately that you are not the person for whom this email was intended and delete this email from your system." From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:11 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology Morning Pat, I would try Balabolka first, it is free. Though you may need to try different voices to find one that is most understandable to the student. Most commonly available TTS engines handle "romance" based languages very well and almost all US medical terminology is based on Greco-Roman language. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Erion-Hesse, Patricia A. Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 7:51 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology Does anyone have recommendations for a reasonably priced text-to-speech software that accurately reads medical terminology? Thanks for your help. Pat H. Patricia Erion-Hesse, M.A. Disability Resources Accessible Media Lab Technician NorthWest Arkansas Community College AltText@nwacc.edu Main office (479) 986-4076 Phone (479) 986-4031 Fax (479) 619-4119 [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image002.png@01CE65E5.C0146000][Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image003.gif@01CE65E5.C0146000] Office Hours: 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Monday 8:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Tuesday - Thursday 9:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Friday [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image008.jpg@01CD47B8.671311F0] "This message is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. 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Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14859 bytes Desc: image003.jpg URL: From SolowoniukR at macewan.ca Tue Apr 29 09:32:05 2014 From: SolowoniukR at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] Free version of Window Eyes In-Reply-To: <0eb501cf63bd$9bdacbd0$d3906370$@ahead.org> References: <0a8e01cf6365$8c6a30d0$a53e9270$@gmail.com> <201404290546.s3T5kTHb022255@mail.ucla.edu> <4CB1FDFA-04E7-4B99-9AEB-CC8D8DA49528@gmail.com> <2C808248-5E1F-4C6A-B373-DA8088535C59@gmail.com> <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B75558DC914@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> <0eb501cf63bd$9bdacbd0$d3906370$@ahead.org> Message-ID: <535F7FA5020000EC0002FC4A@gatedom2vs.macewan.ca> One more thing to add to this discussion... you can purchase additional voices for the free version of Window-Eyes. I bought the Eloquence voices for $59 Canadian, and the Vocalizer Expressive voices for $79. I am also a Jaws user, so, haven't played around too much yet with Window-Eyes, but, it does seem to work quite well, and, it will work in all programs where Jaws or the full version of Window-Eyeswill work. Thanks, Russell Russell Solowoniuk AT Educational Assistant, Services to Students with Disabilities MacEwan University 7-198 D4, 10700-104 Ave. Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca T: 780-497-5826 F: 780-497-4018 macewan.ca This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Please consider the environment before printing this email. >>> "Ron Stewart" 4/29/2014 9:13 AM >>> Thanks all, your input has been very helpful. Ron From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Humbert, Joseph A Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 7:32 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Free version of Window Eyes Hi Ron, I have installed and tested Window Eyes Free version on our test machine here at IU. Office 2010 was previously installed on the machine. Window Eyes activated and worked just fine with office and with Web accessibility testing in Firefox and Internet Explorer. Thankx. Sincerely, Joe Joe Humbert, Principal Accessibility Analyst UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University * Bloomington/Indianapolis 535 W Michigan St. IT210 F Indianapolis, IN 46202 http://iuadapts.iu.edu (317) 274-4378 [Direct Line] (317) 274-6482 [Main Office] johumber@iu.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email message, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you may NOT use, disclose, copy, or disseminate this information. Please contact the sender by reply email immediately and destroy all copies of the original message including all attachments. Even if you are an intended recipient of this email, the author requests that you not forward it to any other person without prior consent. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Jeffrey A Dell Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 4:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Free version of Window Eyes Yes, it is based on personal experience. If someone is running a full paid version of WindowEyes there would be little reason to install the free version unless their license is old and not eligible for upgrades. I have installed the program on the computers in my computer lab to start to learn WindowEyes and make it available to my students. We run Office 2010 in our labs. It worked well on our Surface Pro 2 with Office 2013 until a recent update caused it to lose the activation for Office. Then I got the error mesage that at this time in the morning I cannot remember what the dialog said. If you are wondering if it works with something liek Open Office as well as MS Office I cannot answer that because I do not use Open Office. It does provide accessibility to more than Microsoft programs. It is the full version of WindowEyes with the minor limitations stated in my last e-mail. My experience with it so far has been running it with IE, Mozilla Firefox, and MS Ofice to learn its hotkeys since I am regularly a JAWS user. Jeff Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. On Apr 29, 2014, at 2:41 AM, Ron wrote: So is this based on personal experience? Sounds not, what is the basis of your comments? Your fails reflect my concerns, it came up with error messages... Ron On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Jeffrey A Dell wrote: WindowEyes works just as well with private or institutional licensing for Microsoft office. The only difference between the paid version and free version of window eyes is that it includes access to fewer voices, does not include the accessible Skype client, and does not include all the technical support. The free version looks for the activation associated with your Microsoft 2010 or 2013 product. I had installed on a surface Pro two and for some reason the surface lost the activation for my office 2013. When I tried to load WindowEyes it came up with an error message that it could not find an activation and would not work Jeff Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:54 AM, Ron > wrote: Thanks I have read their marketing stuff. I guess that brings up a secondary question, does it work easily as well with private licenses as institutional licensing? Ron On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Patrick Burke > wrote: Hi Ron, I don't have it installed, but iirc it is the full version of WindowEyes. It just checks for an MS Office license when WinEyes starts up. Patrick At 09:43 PM 4/28/2014, Ron Stewart wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0A8F_01CF633B.A394C510" Content-language: en-us Hi all a question came up recently and I wanted to see if this informed group could provide input. Does the free version of WindowEyes provide a full screen reader experience or is it limited to the MS Office Suite? I have the full version and do not want to do a duplicate install if I do not have to. Ron _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From skeegan at stanford.edu Tue Apr 29 10:22:23 2014 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology In-Reply-To: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690B49@byss.nwacc.edu> References: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690B49@byss.nwacc.edu> Message-ID: <233CF259-D2C0-47B5-BA49-9E14BDC131ED@stanford.edu> Hi Pat, There are a few options to consider for text-to-speech (TTS) systems that are both free and paid-versions. Also, if you are on a Windows computer I would consider purchasing high-quality TTS voices and then you can use a variety of different TTS applications. If you are on a Mac running OS X 10.7 or later, then you can download good quality voices for free. Here are some apps to consider: Balabolka - http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm - Free - Windows platform - Synchronizes words - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Balabolka interface - Can use multiple voices Ivona Reader - http://www.ivona.com/us/reader/ - Free to $300 (price varies on TTS voices selected) - Windows platform - Synchronizes words - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Ivona interface - LOTS of voices to choose from Natural Reader - http://www.naturalreaders.com/ - Free to $199 - Windows and Mac platform - Also has OCR capability at higher priced version - Synchronizes words - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Natural Reader interface Speak Selection / Convert to iTunes - Free, built into OS X - Mac platform - No synchronized TTS with words - Any selectable text - Supports multiple voices Ghostreader - http://www.convenienceware.com/product/ghostreader - $40 for application - Mac platform - Synchronizes words and sentences - Supports multiple formats - Can use any TTS voice installed on OS X system These are just a few applications that you may want to consider that do TTS alone. If you are looking for something that provides more of a study tools environment (highlighting, etc.), then I would suggest checking out Claro Read, Read & Write Gold, or Kurzweil 3000. All of these systems (except for the Speak Selection in OS X) allow for the manipulation of the TTS output, so for technical language you can edit the TTS vocabulary to get the proper pronunciation. I would highly recommend checking out the Ivona voices. You don't have to purchase the Ivona reader or any of those products, but the TTS voices developed by Ivona are amazing. Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University On Apr 29, 2014, at 5:50 AM, "Erion-Hesse, Patricia A." wrote: > Does anyone have recommendations for a reasonably priced text-to-speech software that accurately reads medical terminology? > Thanks for your help. > Pat H. > > Patricia Erion-Hesse, M.A. > Disability Resources Accessible Media Lab Technician > NorthWest Arkansas Community College > AltText@nwacc.edu > Main office (479) 986-4076 > Phone (479) 986-4031 > Fax (479) 619-4119 > > Office Hours: > 8:00 a.m. ? 6:00 p.m. Monday > 8:00 a.m. ? 4:30 p.m. Tuesday ? Thursday > 9:00 a.m. ? 4:30 p.m. Friday > > ?This message is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately that you are not the person for whom this email was intended and delete this email from your system.? > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perionhesse at nwacc.edu Tue Apr 29 10:36:29 2014 From: perionhesse at nwacc.edu (Erion-Hesse, Patricia A.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology In-Reply-To: <233CF259-D2C0-47B5-BA49-9E14BDC131ED@stanford.edu> References: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690B49@byss.nwacc.edu> <233CF259-D2C0-47B5-BA49-9E14BDC131ED@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690D2E@byss.nwacc.edu> Thanks so much for the additional information. Pat H. Patricia Erion-Hesse, M.A. Disability Resources Accessible Media Lab Technician NorthWest Arkansas Community College AltText@nwacc.edu Main office (479) 986-4076 Phone (479) 986-4031 Fax (479) 619-4119 [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image002.png@01CE65E5.C0146000][Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image003.gif@01CE65E5.C0146000] Office Hours: 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Monday 8:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Tuesday - Thursday 9:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Friday [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image008.jpg@01CD47B8.671311F0] "This message is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately that you are not the person for whom this email was intended and delete this email from your system." From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:22 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology Hi Pat, There are a few options to consider for text-to-speech (TTS) systems that are both free and paid-versions. Also, if you are on a Windows computer I would consider purchasing high-quality TTS voices and then you can use a variety of different TTS applications. If you are on a Mac running OS X 10.7 or later, then you can download good quality voices for free. Here are some apps to consider: Balabolka - http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm - Free - Windows platform - Synchronizes words - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Balabolka interface - Can use multiple voices Ivona Reader - http://www.ivona.com/us/reader/ - Free to $300 (price varies on TTS voices selected) - Windows platform - Synchronizes words - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Ivona interface - LOTS of voices to choose from Natural Reader - http://www.naturalreaders.com/ - Free to $199 - Windows and Mac platform - Also has OCR capability at higher priced version - Synchronizes words - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Natural Reader interface Speak Selection / Convert to iTunes - Free, built into OS X - Mac platform - No synchronized TTS with words - Any selectable text - Supports multiple voices Ghostreader - http://www.convenienceware.com/product/ghostreader - $40 for application - Mac platform - Synchronizes words and sentences - Supports multiple formats - Can use any TTS voice installed on OS X system These are just a few applications that you may want to consider that do TTS alone. If you are looking for something that provides more of a study tools environment (highlighting, etc.), then I would suggest checking out Claro Read, Read & Write Gold, or Kurzweil 3000. All of these systems (except for the Speak Selection in OS X) allow for the manipulation of the TTS output, so for technical language you can edit the TTS vocabulary to get the proper pronunciation. I would highly recommend checking out the Ivona voices. You don't have to purchase the Ivona reader or any of those products, but the TTS voices developed by Ivona are amazing. Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University On Apr 29, 2014, at 5:50 AM, "Erion-Hesse, Patricia A." > wrote: Does anyone have recommendations for a reasonably priced text-to-speech software that accurately reads medical terminology? Thanks for your help. Pat H. Patricia Erion-Hesse, M.A. Disability Resources Accessible Media Lab Technician NorthWest Arkansas Community College AltText@nwacc.edu Main office (479) 986-4076 Phone (479) 986-4031 Fax (479) 619-4119 Office Hours: 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Monday 8:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Tuesday - Thursday 9:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Friday "This message is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately that you are not the person for whom this email was intended and delete this email from your system." _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Central Access Reader - http://www.cwu.edu/central-access/reader - Free - Windows (64bit only) and Mac (Mavericks and Mountain Lion) platforms - Synchronizes words (if this means what I think it means) - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into CAR - Can use multiple voices (it uses SAPI 5 voices so you have free and commercial options) - Has adjustable speech rates - Can export to MP3 and HTML including batch export - Reads math (Word's equation editor and MathType formats) -Paul Disclaimer: I do not work for Central Washington University or have any affiliation with them. I only have limited exposure to this product and have not used it in a production environment. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:22 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology Hi Pat, There are a few options to consider for text-to-speech (TTS) systems that are both free and paid-versions. Also, if you are on a Windows computer I would consider purchasing high-quality TTS voices and then you can use a variety of different TTS applications. If you are on a Mac running OS X 10.7 or later, then you can download good quality voices for free. Here are some apps to consider: Balabolka - http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm - Free - Windows platform - Synchronizes words - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Balabolka interface - Can use multiple voices Ivona Reader - http://www.ivona.com/us/reader/ - Free to $300 (price varies on TTS voices selected) - Windows platform - Synchronizes words - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Ivona interface - LOTS of voices to choose from Natural Reader - http://www.naturalreaders.com/ - Free to $199 - Windows and Mac platform - Also has OCR capability at higher priced version - Synchronizes words - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Natural Reader interface Speak Selection / Convert to iTunes - Free, built into OS X - Mac platform - No synchronized TTS with words - Any selectable text - Supports multiple voices Ghostreader - http://www.convenienceware.com/product/ghostreader - $40 for application - Mac platform - Synchronizes words and sentences - Supports multiple formats - Can use any TTS voice installed on OS X system These are just a few applications that you may want to consider that do TTS alone. If you are looking for something that provides more of a study tools environment (highlighting, etc.), then I would suggest checking out Claro Read, Read & Write Gold, or Kurzweil 3000. All of these systems (except for the Speak Selection in OS X) allow for the manipulation of the TTS output, so for technical language you can edit the TTS vocabulary to get the proper pronunciation. I would highly recommend checking out the Ivona voices. You don't have to purchase the Ivona reader or any of those products, but the TTS voices developed by Ivona are amazing. Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University On Apr 29, 2014, at 5:50 AM, "Erion-Hesse, Patricia A." > wrote: Does anyone have recommendations for a reasonably priced text-to-speech software that accurately reads medical terminology? Thanks for your help. Pat H. Patricia Erion-Hesse, M.A. Disability Resources Accessible Media Lab Technician NorthWest Arkansas Community College AltText@nwacc.edu Main office (479) 986-4076 Phone (479) 986-4031 Fax (479) 619-4119 Office Hours: 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Monday 8:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Tuesday - Thursday 9:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Friday "This message is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately that you are not the person for whom this email was intended and delete this email from your system." _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 11:00:08 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology In-Reply-To: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CCABAC8@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> References: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690B49@byss.nwacc.edu> <233CF259-D2C0-47B5-BA49-9E14BDC131ED@stanford.edu> <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CCABAC8@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> Message-ID: <107401cf63d4$dd8521e0$988f65a0$@gmail.com> Good addition though currently it only works with MS Word Docs. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Paul E. Paire Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:51 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology Sean, Great list. I found out about a new product at the most recent CSUN conference that you may want to consider adding to your list. Central Access Reader - http://www.cwu.edu/central-access/reader - Free - Windows (64bit only) and Mac (Mavericks and Mountain Lion) platforms - Synchronizes words (if this means what I think it means) - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into CAR - Can use multiple voices (it uses SAPI 5 voices so you have free and commercial options) - Has adjustable speech rates - Can export to MP3 and HTML including batch export - Reads math (Word's equation editor and MathType formats) -Paul Disclaimer: I do not work for Central Washington University or have any affiliation with them. I only have limited exposure to this product and have not used it in a production environment. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:22 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology Hi Pat, There are a few options to consider for text-to-speech (TTS) systems that are both free and paid-versions. Also, if you are on a Windows computer I would consider purchasing high-quality TTS voices and then you can use a variety of different TTS applications. If you are on a Mac running OS X 10.7 or later, then you can download good quality voices for free. Here are some apps to consider: Balabolka - http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm - Free - Windows platform - Synchronizes words - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Balabolka interface - Can use multiple voices Ivona Reader - http://www.ivona.com/us/reader/ - Free to $300 (price varies on TTS voices selected) - Windows platform - Synchronizes words - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Ivona interface - LOTS of voices to choose from Natural Reader - http://www.naturalreaders.com/ - Free to $199 - Windows and Mac platform - Also has OCR capability at higher priced version - Synchronizes words - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Natural Reader interface Speak Selection / Convert to iTunes - Free, built into OS X - Mac platform - No synchronized TTS with words - Any selectable text - Supports multiple voices Ghostreader - http://www.convenienceware.com/product/ghostreader - $40 for application - Mac platform - Synchronizes words and sentences - Supports multiple formats - Can use any TTS voice installed on OS X system These are just a few applications that you may want to consider that do TTS alone. If you are looking for something that provides more of a study tools environment (highlighting, etc.), then I would suggest checking out Claro Read, Read & Write Gold, or Kurzweil 3000. All of these systems (except for the Speak Selection in OS X) allow for the manipulation of the TTS output, so for technical language you can edit the TTS vocabulary to get the proper pronunciation. I would highly recommend checking out the Ivona voices. You don't have to purchase the Ivona reader or any of those products, but the TTS voices developed by Ivona are amazing. Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University On Apr 29, 2014, at 5:50 AM, "Erion-Hesse, Patricia A." wrote: Does anyone have recommendations for a reasonably priced text-to-speech software that accurately reads medical terminology? Thanks for your help. Pat H. Patricia Erion-Hesse, M.A. Disability Resources Accessible Media Lab Technician NorthWest Arkansas Community College AltText@nwacc.edu Main office (479) 986-4076 Phone (479) 986-4031 Fax (479) 619-4119 Office Hours: 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Monday 8:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Tuesday - Thursday 9:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Friday "This message is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately that you are not the person for whom this email was intended and delete this email from your system." _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Tue Apr 29 11:38:28 2014 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology In-Reply-To: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CCABAC8@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> References: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690B49@byss.nwacc.edu> <233CF259-D2C0-47B5-BA49-9E14BDC131ED@stanford.edu> <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CCABAC8@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> Message-ID: <2DCFF691-FE2A-4E49-8D24-36D9DDD2551A@stanford.edu> Hi Paul, Yes - that is another great app to consider. I am finding it does a very good job at handling MS Word documents (docx) and supporting the math component. I have not been able to find a way to modify the speech output to structure the pronunciation of technical terms, but the TTS voices on my OS X system seem to be handling most college content without a problem. In addition to word/audio highlighting synchronization, it will also support sentence/audio highlight synchronization. Thanks for posting! Take care, sean On Apr 29, 2014, at 10:50 AM, "Paul E. Paire" wrote: > Sean, > > Great list. I found out about a new product at the most recent CSUN conference that you may want to consider adding to your list. > > Central Access Reader > - http://www.cwu.edu/central-access/reader > - Free > - Windows (64bit only) and Mac (Mavericks and Mountain Lion) platforms > - Synchronizes words (if this means what I think it means) > - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into CAR > - Can use multiple voices (it uses SAPI 5 voices so you have free and commercial options) > - Has adjustable speech rates > - Can export to MP3 and HTML including batch export > - Reads math (Word?s equation editor and MathType formats) > > > -Paul > > Disclaimer: I do not work for Central Washington University or have any affiliation with them. I only have limited exposure to this product and have not used it in a production environment. > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:22 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology > > Hi Pat, > > There are a few options to consider for text-to-speech (TTS) systems that are both free and paid-versions. Also, if you are on a Windows computer I would consider purchasing high-quality TTS voices and then you can use a variety of different TTS applications. If you are on a Mac running OS X 10.7 or later, then you can download good quality voices for free. > > Here are some apps to consider: > Balabolka > - http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm > - Free > - Windows platform > - Synchronizes words > - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Balabolka interface > - Can use multiple voices > > Ivona Reader > - http://www.ivona.com/us/reader/ > - Free to $300 (price varies on TTS voices selected) > - Windows platform > - Synchronizes words > - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Ivona interface > - LOTS of voices to choose from > > Natural Reader > - http://www.naturalreaders.com/ > - Free to $199 > - Windows and Mac platform > - Also has OCR capability at higher priced version > - Synchronizes words > - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Natural Reader interface > > Speak Selection / Convert to iTunes > - Free, built into OS X > - Mac platform > - No synchronized TTS with words > - Any selectable text > - Supports multiple voices > > Ghostreader > - http://www.convenienceware.com/product/ghostreader > - $40 for application > - Mac platform > - Synchronizes words and sentences > - Supports multiple formats > - Can use any TTS voice installed on OS X system > > > These are just a few applications that you may want to consider that do TTS alone. If you are looking for something that provides more of a study tools environment (highlighting, etc.), then I would suggest checking out Claro Read, Read & Write Gold, or Kurzweil 3000. All of these systems (except for the Speak Selection in OS X) allow for the manipulation of the TTS output, so for technical language you can edit the TTS vocabulary to get the proper pronunciation. > > I would highly recommend checking out the Ivona voices. You don't have to purchase the Ivona reader or any of those products, but the TTS voices developed by Ivona are amazing. > > Take care, > Sean > > Sean Keegan > Associate Director, Assistive Technology > Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University > > > > > On Apr 29, 2014, at 5:50 AM, "Erion-Hesse, Patricia A." wrote: > > > Does anyone have recommendations for a reasonably priced text-to-speech software that accurately reads medical terminology? > Thanks for your help. > Pat H. > > Patricia Erion-Hesse, M.A. > Disability Resources Accessible Media Lab Technician > NorthWest Arkansas Community College > AltText@nwacc.edu > Main office (479) 986-4076 > Phone (479) 986-4031 > Fax (479) 619-4119 > > Office Hours: > 8:00 a.m. ? 6:00 p.m. Monday > 8:00 a.m. ? 4:30 p.m. Tuesday ? Thursday > 9:00 a.m. ? 4:30 p.m. Friday > > ?This message is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. 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Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology In-Reply-To: <2DCFF691-FE2A-4E49-8D24-36D9DDD2551A@stanford.edu> References: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690B49@byss.nwacc.edu> <233CF259-D2C0-47B5-BA49-9E14BDC131ED@stanford.edu> <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CCABAC8@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> <2DCFF691-FE2A-4E49-8D24-36D9DDD2551A@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690DCA@byss.nwacc.edu> Thanks so much to everyone for providing the recommendations. I have tried Natural Reader and Balabolka, but I have not purchased additional voices. I also listened to the Ivona voice samples, and I agree that they are outstanding. If you purchase additional premium voices, have you found that they will read the medical/technical terms more accurately? I saw some info about TextAloud3, but I haven't tried it yet. Have any of you used it? ($29.95-$59.95) http://www.nextup.com/press/120412.html Thanks again. Pat H. 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If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately that you are not the person for whom this email was intended and delete this email from your system." From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:38 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology Hi Paul, Yes - that is another great app to consider. I am finding it does a very good job at handling MS Word documents (docx) and supporting the math component. I have not been able to find a way to modify the speech output to structure the pronunciation of technical terms, but the TTS voices on my OS X system seem to be handling most college content without a problem. In addition to word/audio highlighting synchronization, it will also support sentence/audio highlight synchronization. Thanks for posting! Take care, sean On Apr 29, 2014, at 10:50 AM, "Paul E. Paire" > wrote: Sean, Great list. I found out about a new product at the most recent CSUN conference that you may want to consider adding to your list. Central Access Reader - http://www.cwu.edu/central-access/reader - Free - Windows (64bit only) and Mac (Mavericks and Mountain Lion) platforms - Synchronizes words (if this means what I think it means) - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into CAR - Can use multiple voices (it uses SAPI 5 voices so you have free and commercial options) - Has adjustable speech rates - Can export to MP3 and HTML including batch export - Reads math (Word's equation editor and MathType formats) -Paul Disclaimer: I do not work for Central Washington University or have any affiliation with them. I only have limited exposure to this product and have not used it in a production environment. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:22 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology Hi Pat, There are a few options to consider for text-to-speech (TTS) systems that are both free and paid-versions. Also, if you are on a Windows computer I would consider purchasing high-quality TTS voices and then you can use a variety of different TTS applications. If you are on a Mac running OS X 10.7 or later, then you can download good quality voices for free. Here are some apps to consider: Balabolka - http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm - Free - Windows platform - Synchronizes words - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Balabolka interface - Can use multiple voices Ivona Reader - http://www.ivona.com/us/reader/ - Free to $300 (price varies on TTS voices selected) - Windows platform - Synchronizes words - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Ivona interface - LOTS of voices to choose from Natural Reader - http://www.naturalreaders.com/ - Free to $199 - Windows and Mac platform - Also has OCR capability at higher priced version - Synchronizes words - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Natural Reader interface Speak Selection / Convert to iTunes - Free, built into OS X - Mac platform - No synchronized TTS with words - Any selectable text - Supports multiple voices Ghostreader - http://www.convenienceware.com/product/ghostreader - $40 for application - Mac platform - Synchronizes words and sentences - Supports multiple formats - Can use any TTS voice installed on OS X system These are just a few applications that you may want to consider that do TTS alone. If you are looking for something that provides more of a study tools environment (highlighting, etc.), then I would suggest checking out Claro Read, Read & Write Gold, or Kurzweil 3000. All of these systems (except for the Speak Selection in OS X) allow for the manipulation of the TTS output, so for technical language you can edit the TTS vocabulary to get the proper pronunciation. I would highly recommend checking out the Ivona voices. You don't have to purchase the Ivona reader or any of those products, but the TTS voices developed by Ivona are amazing. Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University On Apr 29, 2014, at 5:50 AM, "Erion-Hesse, Patricia A." > wrote: Does anyone have recommendations for a reasonably priced text-to-speech software that accurately reads medical terminology? Thanks for your help. Pat H. 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URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Wed Apr 30 13:37:34 2014 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:45 2018 Subject: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology In-Reply-To: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690DCA@byss.nwacc.edu> References: <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690B49@byss.nwacc.edu> <233CF259-D2C0-47B5-BA49-9E14BDC131ED@stanford.edu> <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C79CCABAC8@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> <2DCFF691-FE2A-4E49-8D24-36D9DDD2551A@stanford.edu> <2485060D14437C418353A9FB30FF0AB836690DCA@byss.nwacc.edu> Message-ID: <1E02D26B-0BC5-47CB-9D51-5776B9337740@stanford.edu> Hi Pat, TextAloud is another solid application to consider. That said, I have found Balabolka supports many of the same capabilities at a much nicer price point (free!). I have found *some* of the more expensive voices can read medical/technical terms more accurately, but this is not always true. It may be necessary to modify the spoken word pronunciation in the application itself. For example, in Balabolka, you would need to go to View > Show > Panel of Dictionaries. This will open a panel on the right side of the interface. If you click on the Edit button on the top area of that panel, you will then see a few dictionary entries in which the written word is "corrected" into the spoken word. If you are looking at purchasing one of the higher quality voices, you may want to try and enter different terms on that web page and try out how the content is spoken. For the most part, I have had good results with Ivona voices, but given that medical terms may contain a doctor's or scientist's name as part of the condition, it really just depends. Also, regional differences may have an impact on how accurate the TTS voice is perceived in speaking the text content. I had visiting professor in grad school who insisted on pronouncing "musculoskeletal system" as "musculo ske LEE tal system" - needless to say, all of us would cringe. Lastly, I would suggest the following - although I have ZERO hard data and the following is based purely on anecdotal evidence - try an English speaking voice that has a slight accent. Some of the English speaking students I have worked with prefer a slightly accented voice as they feel they do not get too hung up on what may be mispronunciations of the text. For the Ivona voices, this may be something like Ivona Amy (British English) or if using Nuance then Tessa (South African). Hope this helps. Take care, Sean On Apr 30, 2014, at 6:17 AM, "Erion-Hesse, Patricia A." wrote: > Thanks so much to everyone for providing the recommendations. > > I have tried Natural Reader and Balabolka, but I have not purchased additional voices. I also listened to the Ivona voice samples, and I agree that they are outstanding. > If you purchase additional premium voices, have you found that they will read the medical/technical terms more accurately? > > I saw some info about TextAloud3, but I haven?t tried it yet. Have any of you used it? ($29.95-$59.95) http://www.nextup.com/press/120412.html > > Thanks again. > > Pat H. > > Patricia Erion-Hesse, M.A. > Disability Resources Accessible Media Lab Technician > NorthWest Arkansas Community College > AltText@nwacc.edu > Main office (479) 986-4076 > Phone (479) 986-4031 > Fax (479) 619-4119 > > Office Hours: > 8:00 a.m. ? 6:00 p.m. Monday > 8:00 a.m. ? 4:30 p.m. Tuesday ? Thursday > 9:00 a.m. ? 4:30 p.m. Friday > > ?This message is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately that you are not the person for whom this email was intended and delete this email from your system.? > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:38 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology > > Hi Paul, > > Yes - that is another great app to consider. I am finding it does a very good job at handling MS Word documents (docx) and supporting the math component. I have not been able to find a way to modify the speech output to structure the pronunciation of technical terms, but the TTS voices on my OS X system seem to be handling most college content without a problem. In addition to word/audio highlighting synchronization, it will also support sentence/audio highlight synchronization. > > Thanks for posting! > > Take care, > sean > > On Apr 29, 2014, at 10:50 AM, "Paul E. Paire" wrote: > > > Sean, > > Great list. I found out about a new product at the most recent CSUN conference that you may want to consider adding to your list. > > Central Access Reader > - http://www.cwu.edu/central-access/reader > - Free > - Windows (64bit only) and Mac (Mavericks and Mountain Lion) platforms > - Synchronizes words (if this means what I think it means) > - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into CAR > - Can use multiple voices (it uses SAPI 5 voices so you have free and commercial options) > - Has adjustable speech rates > - Can export to MP3 and HTML including batch export > - Reads math (Word?s equation editor and MathType formats) > > > -Paul > > Disclaimer: I do not work for Central Washington University or have any affiliation with them. I only have limited exposure to this product and have not used it in a production environment. > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:22 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Text-to-speech for medical terminology > > Hi Pat, > > There are a few options to consider for text-to-speech (TTS) systems that are both free and paid-versions. Also, if you are on a Windows computer I would consider purchasing high-quality TTS voices and then you can use a variety of different TTS applications. If you are on a Mac running OS X 10.7 or later, then you can download good quality voices for free. > > Here are some apps to consider: > Balabolka > - http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm > - Free > - Windows platform > - Synchronizes words > - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Balabolka interface > - Can use multiple voices > > Ivona Reader > - http://www.ivona.com/us/reader/ > - Free to $300 (price varies on TTS voices selected) > - Windows platform > - Synchronizes words > - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Ivona interface > - LOTS of voices to choose from > > Natural Reader > - http://www.naturalreaders.com/ > - Free to $199 > - Windows and Mac platform > - Also has OCR capability at higher priced version > - Synchronizes words > - Supports multiple formats; copy and paste content into Natural Reader interface > > Speak Selection / Convert to iTunes > - Free, built into OS X > - Mac platform > - No synchronized TTS with words > - Any selectable text > - Supports multiple voices > > Ghostreader > - http://www.convenienceware.com/product/ghostreader > - $40 for application > - Mac platform > - Synchronizes words and sentences > - Supports multiple formats > - Can use any TTS voice installed on OS X system > > > These are just a few applications that you may want to consider that do TTS alone. If you are looking for something that provides more of a study tools environment (highlighting, etc.), then I would suggest checking out Claro Read, Read & Write Gold, or Kurzweil 3000. All of these systems (except for the Speak Selection in OS X) allow for the manipulation of the TTS output, so for technical language you can edit the TTS vocabulary to get the proper pronunciation. > > I would highly recommend checking out the Ivona voices. You don't have to purchase the Ivona reader or any of those products, but the TTS voices developed by Ivona are amazing. > > Take care, > Sean > > Sean Keegan > Associate Director, Assistive Technology > Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University > > > > > On Apr 29, 2014, at 5:50 AM, "Erion-Hesse, Patricia A." wrote: > > > > Does anyone have recommendations for a reasonably priced text-to-speech software that accurately reads medical terminology? > Thanks for your help. > Pat H. > > Patricia Erion-Hesse, M.A. > Disability Resources Accessible Media Lab Technician > NorthWest Arkansas Community College > AltText@nwacc.edu > Main office (479) 986-4076 > Phone (479) 986-4031 > Fax (479) 619-4119 > > Office Hours: > 8:00 a.m. ? 6:00 p.m. Monday > 8:00 a.m. ? 4:30 p.m. Tuesday ? Thursday > 9:00 a.m. ? 4:30 p.m. Friday > > ?This message is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. 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