From Andrea.Engle at utoledo.edu Mon Aug 4 12:11:54 2014 From: Andrea.Engle at utoledo.edu (Engle, Andrea June) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Scopia Message-ID: <84A066196BA6E54AB3C51373309B728FE519B2BF@msgdb10.utad.utoledo.edu> We have a student who will be starting a program this Fall where they will be using Scopia for video conferencing. This student is a JAWS user and I am having problems gathering any information on accessibility. Does anyone have an accessibility information on this product? Thank you, Andrea Engle Academic Accommodation Specialist Student Disability Services The University of Toledo 2801 W. Bancroft St. MS#342 Toledo, OH 43606-3390 Phone: 419-530-4981 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Mon Aug 4 14:39:52 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Scopia In-Reply-To: <84A066196BA6E54AB3C51373309B728FE519B2BF@msgdb10.utad.utoledo.edu> References: <84A066196BA6E54AB3C51373309B728FE519B2BF@msgdb10.utad.utoledo.edu> Message-ID: Here is the link to their relevant information. I would not be assured of this software working with JAWS until it can be tested with your campus content. Their are a lot of very big holes in the information they are providing. That said that do make assurances of working with VoiceOver. In most instances this only refers to the portal not to the content provided through their system. Ron Stewart On Monday, August 4, 2014, Engle, Andrea June wrote: > We have a student who will be starting a program this Fall where they > will be using Scopia for video conferencing. This student is a JAWS user > and I am having problems gathering any information on accessibility. Does > anyone have an accessibility information on this product? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > Andrea Engle > > Academic Accommodation Specialist > Student Disability Services > The University of Toledo > 2801 W. Bancroft St. MS#342 > Toledo, OH 43606-3390 > Phone: 419-530-4981 > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Mon Aug 4 14:43:13 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Scopia In-Reply-To: References: <84A066196BA6E54AB3C51373309B728FE519B2BF@msgdb10.utad.utoledo.edu> Message-ID: Sorry forgot the link. http://www.avaya.com/usa/documents/vpat---scopia-xt-series-endpoints-2013-09-18.pdf Ron Stewart On Monday, August 4, 2014, Ron wrote: > Here is the link to their relevant information. I would not be assured of > this software working with JAWS until it can be tested with your campus > content. Their are a lot of very big holes in the information they are > providing. > > That said that do make assurances of working with VoiceOver. In most > instances this only refers to the portal not to the content provided > through their system. > > Ron Stewart > > On Monday, August 4, 2014, Engle, Andrea June > wrote: > >> We have a student who will be starting a program this Fall where they >> will be using Scopia for video conferencing. This student is a JAWS user >> and I am having problems gathering any information on accessibility. Does >> anyone have an accessibility information on this product? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Andrea Engle >> >> Academic Accommodation Specialist >> Student Disability Services >> The University of Toledo >> 2801 W. Bancroft St. MS#342 >> Toledo, OH 43606-3390 >> Phone: 419-530-4981 >> >> >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carin.headrick at d2l.com Tue Aug 5 14:17:14 2014 From: carin.headrick at d2l.com (Carin Headrick) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] D2L/VoiceOver Incompatibility Message-ID: <843e70f9464d4c378155e20bdc77f202@BN1PR0101MB0802.prod.exchangelabs.com> It appears this message didn?t go through last week. Hopefully this time, it will. Apologies for the delay in responding. Carin Headrick Accessibility Tester Brightspace by D2L (Desire2Learn Incorporated) 1-519-772-0325 x6514 Carin.Headrick@D2L.com www.brightspace.com From: Janna Cameron Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 9:45 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] D2L/VoiceOver Incompatibility Hi all, We?re aware and actively investigating this issue. In ?account settings? you can globally turn off the WYSIWYG editor and use a textbox instead. NB - You?ll see HTML markup in the original post, if appended. Janna [cid:image001.png@01CFA1DD.DE1ED280] Janna Cameron Senior Usability Specialist, Team Lead Brightspace by D2L - Desire2Learn Incorporated From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:31 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] D2L/VoiceOver Incompatibility I would recommend trying it with WebKit instead of Safari. There seems to be much less of an issue when using the base package instead of the pretty user interface. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Michele Bromley Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:15 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] D2L/VoiceOver Incompatibility Keith, Kenneth, Russell, et al., We are dealing with VoiceOver Mac. I've had the opportunity over the last week to do some more digging with regard to this accessibility issue. It appears that the discussion board function in D2L is essentially inaccessible in Safari when using VoiceOver. We found that was it nearly impossible to navigate into the edit text area, and even when students were able to do so with assistance, VoiceOver would not read words out loud as they were typed. I'm tentatively concluding that this is a VoiceOver/Safari issue since we were able to navigate through the discussion board functions easily using JAWS on a separate computer. Unfortunately, this is still a big issue since many of our students use Macintosh computers. I'm looking into ChromeVox as a possible alternative--I haven't had a chance yet to take it out for a spin. I'm not currently aware of any other open source screen reading software that works with the most recent Mac operating system. Thank you for any recommendations! Michele Joy Bromley Inclusive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Portland State University Office: 116A SMSU Phone: (503) 725-8395 Fax: (503) 725-4103 Email: michele.bromley@pdx.edu Website: www.pdx.edu/drc Facebook: www.facebook.com/pdxdrc On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:01 PM, > wrote: Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman13.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman13.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: D2L/VoiceOver Incompatibility (Petri, Kenneth) 2. Re: D2L/VoiceOver Incompatibility (Russell Solowoniuk) 3. MathType/MathML questions (Susan Kelmer) 4. Re: MathType/MathML questions (Emma Cliffe) 5. Re: MathType/MathML questions (Emma Cliffe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:34:46 +0000 From: "Petri, Kenneth" > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] D2L/VoiceOver Incompatibility Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Michelle, I would definitely contact D2L directly with any specific issues. They have staff dedicated to accessibility. OSU runs D2L and I have been involved in helping improve its accessibility over the years. If you can tell me where the student is having issues, I can verify and post an email to the D2L accessibility interest group list ? maybe it should be doing more to verify accessibility on VoiceOver? As Keith mentioned, it is necessary to know if this is VO Mac or on iOS. In my experience, VO on the Mac is not a terribly good screen reader when using complex web applications. On iOS the implementation is much better (though very different, as well). But in any case, I?m pretty sure the D2L community would be interested in your student?s experience. Best, ken [The Ohio State University] Ken Petri, Program Director Web Accessibility Center, ADA Coordinator's Office and Office for Disability Services 102D Pomerene Hall | 1760 Neil Ave. Columbus, OH 43210 614-292-1760 Office | 614-218-1499 Mobile | 614-292-4190 Fax petri.1@osu.edu> | wac.osu.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Michele Bromley Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 12:50 PM To: DSSHE-L@listserv.buffalo.edu; athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] D2L/VoiceOver Incompatibility Hello all, I'm curious to hear from other schools who are using D2L as a learning management system. We have a blind student who has been having some serious navigation issues with D2L in Safari. VoiceOver is simply not working in some cases. VoiceOver appears to work well with other websites in Safari, so this seems to be a D2L issue. Has anyone else encountered this problem? Thank you for any recommendations! Michele Joy Bromley Inclusive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Portland State University Office: 116A SMSU Phone: (503) 725-8395 Fax: (503) 725-4103 Email: michele.bromley@pdx.edu> Website: www.pdx.edu/drc Facebook: www.facebook.com/pdxdrc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hope this helps, Russell Russell Solowoniuk AT Educational Assistant, Services to Students with Disabilities MacEwan University 7-198 D4, 10700-104 Ave. Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca T: 780-497-5826 F: 780-497-4018 macewan.ca This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Please consider the environment before printing this email. >>> "Petri, Kenneth" > 7/21/2014 4:34 PM >>> Michelle, I would definitely contact D2L directly with any specific issues. They have staff dedicated to accessibility. OSU runs D2L and I have been involved in helping improve its accessibility over the years. If you can tell me where the student is having issues, I can verify and post an email to the D2L accessibility interest group list * maybe it should be doing more to verify accessibility on VoiceOver? As Keith mentioned, it is necessary to know if this is VO Mac or on iOS. In my experience, VO on the Mac is not a terribly good screen reader when using complex web applications. On iOS the implementation is much better (though very different, as well). But in any case, I*m pretty sure the D2L community would be interested in your student*s experience. Best, ken [The Ohio State University] Ken Petri, Program Director Web Accessibility Center, ADA Coordinator's Office and Office for Disability Services 102D Pomerene Hall | 1760 Neil Ave. Columbus, OH 43210 614-292-1760 Office | 614-218-1499 Mobile | 614-292-4190 Fax petri.1@osu.edu> | wac.osu.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Michele Bromley Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 12:50 PM To: DSSHE-L@listserv.buffalo.edu; athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] D2L/VoiceOver Incompatibility Hello all, I'm curious to hear from other schools who are using D2L as a learning management system. We have a blind student who has been having some serious navigation issues with D2L in Safari. VoiceOver is simply not working in some cases. VoiceOver appears to work well with other websites in Safari, so this seems to be a D2L issue. Has anyone else encountered this problem? Thank you for any recommendations! Michele Joy Bromley Inclusive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Portland State University Office: 116A SMSU Phone: (503) 725-8395 Fax: (503) 725-4103 Email: michele.bromley@pdx.edu> Website: www.pdx.edu/drc Facebook: www.facebook.com/pdxdrc ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:38:17 -0600 From: Susan Kelmer > To: "dsshe-l@listserv.buffalo.edu" >, "Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu)" > Subject: [Athen] MathType/MathML questions Message-ID: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B5CC0EB9A7@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We are getting a lot of requests for math of late, and this has not been our strong point in production. So, we're still in a bit of a learning mode. We've discovered a few things, and need some help. When converting to MathPage after editing our Word document using MathType, we are finding two problems: a. We put page number in the header section of word documents as a matter of routine. The page numbers disappear in the finalized document, and we're not sure why. b. If we have footnotes (we use the footnote function in Word to create them), the output to MathPage fails. None of us working on conversions (me or my student staff) are "math people," so we are doing some struggling but making our way through. If someone could help us with these two issues, we'd be grateful! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:42:30 +0100 From: Emma Cliffe > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] MathType/MathML questions Message-ID: <53CE9476.4060607@bath.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Dear Susan, If I understand it correctly running conversion to MathPage is using Word's conversion tools for some of the work. This is likely to be the issue with the page numbers, as far as I am aware Word does not convert headers or footers when converting to web formats. This was certainly true in Word 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/212270 and I imagine is still the case as one might ask what a header or footer is intended to be in this format since the whole document is converted to a single page - I understand why you want the numbers in this case but you'll have to include them a different way. I am running Word 2010 with MathType 6.9. The footnotes issue is only occurring in some conversions and I can explain what is happening and a nasty fix but it looks like a bug. Not sure whose bug though, could be Word or MathType. Publish to MathPage you have 5 options for MathML in 6.9 (fewer in earlier versions I imagine). Some of these will not trigger the bug but they may not be the format you want. Some will trigger the bug. 1. HTML + MathJax: Produces a .htm file with MathJax handling the rendering of MathML equations. Will not trigger the bug. 2. XHTML + MathJax: Produces a .xht file with MathJax handling the rendering of MathML equations. Will trigger the bug. 3. XHTML + MathML: Produces a .xht file with native rendering of the MathML equations. Will trigger the bug. 4. MathPlayer (IE behavior): Produces a .htm file with equations which will only be rendered by MathPlayer + IE<10. Will not trigger the bug. 5. Multi-browser (UMSS): Produces a .xht file with equations in MathML using the universal MathML style sheet. Will trigger the bug. The bug is that whenever you have a footnote the XML is incorrect and the bug is only occurring in the xht outputs so it is caused by whatever is responsible for producing the XML (Word?). E.g. you get:

[1] http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathtype/

The incorrect portions are: which should be The only way for you to fix this, that I am aware, is to open up the exported source in a suitable editor and hand fix all such errors or to write a script that does this for you. If anyone else has any ideas or comments on the above it would be great to hear them. If anyone knows for sure whether this is Word or MathType then we could also report the issue. I will try and follow it up with some contacts I have who may be able to shed some light but this could take some time. Kind regards, Emma On 22/07/2014 16:38, Susan Kelmer wrote: > > We are getting a lot of requests for math of late, and this has not > been our strong point in production. So, we're still in a bit of a > learning mode. We've discovered a few things, and need some help. > > When converting to MathPage after editing our Word document using > MathType, we are finding two problems: > > a.We put page number in the header section of word documents as a > matter of routine. The page numbers disappear in the finalized > document, and we're not sure why. > > b.If we have footnotes (we use the footnote function in Word to create > them), the output to MathPage fails. > > None of us working on conversions (me or my student staff) are "math > people," so we are doing some struggling but making our way through. > If someone could help us with these two issues, we'd be grateful! > > /Susan Kelmer/ > > /Alternate Format Coordinator/ > > /Disability Services/ > > /University of Colorado/ > > /303-735-4836/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:51:37 +0100 From: Emma Cliffe > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] MathType/MathML questions Message-ID: <53CE9699.6090109@bath.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Hi Susan, Sorry for a second mail, that fixes the bug but leaves the footnote link an empty string. You would also need to add something in to (from the example below): e.g link so that the footnote link was visible and clickable. Kind regards, Emma On 22/07/2014 17:42, Emma Cliffe wrote: > > Dear Susan, > > If I understand it correctly running conversion to MathPage is using > Word's conversion tools for some of the work. This is likely to be the > issue with the page numbers, as far as I am aware Word does not > convert headers or footers when converting to web formats. This was > certainly true in Word 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/212270 and > I imagine is still the case as one might ask what a header or footer > is intended to be in this format since the whole document is converted > to a single page - I understand why you want the numbers in this case > but you'll have to include them a different way. > > I am running Word 2010 with MathType 6.9. The footnotes issue is only > occurring in some conversions and I can explain what is happening and > a nasty fix but it looks like a bug. Not sure whose bug though, could > be Word or MathType. Publish to MathPage you have 5 options for MathML > in 6.9 (fewer in earlier versions I imagine). Some of these will not > trigger the bug but they may not be the format you want. Some will > trigger the bug. > 1. HTML + MathJax: Produces a .htm file with MathJax handling the > rendering of MathML equations. Will not trigger the bug. > 2. XHTML + MathJax: Produces a .xht file with MathJax handling the > rendering of MathML equations. Will trigger the bug. > 3. XHTML + MathML: Produces a .xht file with native rendering of the > MathML equations. Will trigger the bug. > 4. MathPlayer (IE behavior): Produces a .htm file with equations which > will only be rendered by MathPlayer + IE<10. Will not trigger the bug. > 5. Multi-browser (UMSS): Produces a .xht file with equations in MathML > using the universal MathML style sheet. Will trigger the bug. > > The bug is that whenever you have a footnote the XML is incorrect and > the bug is only occurring in the xht outputs so it is caused by > whatever is responsible for producing the XML (Word?). E.g. you get: >

name="_ftn1" title=""> !supportFootnotes]> style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; > mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-theme-font: > minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times > New Roman"; > mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language: > EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA'>[1] href="http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathtype/">http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathtype/ >

> > The incorrect portions are: > which should be > > The only way for you to fix this, that I am aware, is to open up the > exported source in a suitable editor and hand fix all such errors or > to write a script that does this for you. > > If anyone else has any ideas or comments on the above it would be > great to hear them. If anyone knows for sure whether this is Word or > MathType then we could also report the issue. I will try and follow it > up with some contacts I have who may be able to shed some light but > this could take some time. > > Kind regards, > Emma > > On 22/07/2014 16:38, Susan Kelmer wrote: >> >> We are getting a lot of requests for math of late, and this has not >> been our strong point in production. So, we're still in a bit of a >> learning mode. We've discovered a few things, and need some help. >> >> When converting to MathPage after editing our Word document using >> MathType, we are finding two problems: >> >> a.We put page number in the header section of word documents as a >> matter of routine. The page numbers disappear in the finalized >> document, and we're not sure why. >> >> b.If we have footnotes (we use the footnote function in Word to >> create them), the output to MathPage fails. >> >> None of us working on conversions (me or my student staff) are "math >> people," so we are doing some struggling but making our way through. >> If someone could help us with these two issues, we'd be grateful! >> >> /Susan Kelmer/ >> >> /Alternate Format Coordinator/ >> >> /Disability Services/ >> >> /University of Colorado/ >> >> /303-735-4836/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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HTH Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Sorensen Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:58 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Sub-lists Hi Colleagues, In working with a screen reader user, she expressed confusion about a sub-list. JAWS just read "list of 5 items" but before it reached the end of those 5 items, it read "list of 1 item". She thought something was wrong because it hadn't read all of the five items. Is there a better way to mark this up so it's obvious the list of 1 item is a sub-list? I asked if she could tell it was a sub-list because it hadn't reached the end of the 5 items yet, but she was more inclined to not believe the "list of 5 items" was correct. Here's the list: * Main Menu * Courses * Homework Sets * Section 1_2 * Passwork/Email * Grades Thanks! Karen Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 "The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.? Tim Berners-Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carin.headrick at d2l.com Wed Aug 6 13:15:01 2014 From: carin.headrick at d2l.com (Carin Headrick) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Sub-lists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <349bb9824a3c4d378d438894f67194b1@BN1PR0101MB0802.prod.exchangelabs.com> Hi. Hmmm my screen reader, JAWS at the moment, didn?t really think that was a list at all, but I wonder if that?s something to do with it being changed somehow when it became an email. Usually JAWS will say, for example, ?list of 5 items? and when it reaches the sub-list, ?list of 1 items nesting level 1? which indicates it?s inside the other list. I would have to check what NVDA or Voiceover does though. Sorry I couldn?t be of much help. Carin From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Sorensen Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:58 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Sub-lists Hi Colleagues, In working with a screen reader user, she expressed confusion about a sub-list. JAWS just read "list of 5 items" but before it reached the end of those 5 items, it read "list of 1 item". She thought something was wrong because it hadn't read all of the five items. Is there a better way to mark this up so it's obvious the list of 1 item is a sub-list? I asked if she could tell it was a sub-list because it hadn't reached the end of the 5 items yet, but she was more inclined to not believe the "list of 5 items" was correct. Here's the list: * Main Menu * Courses * Homework Sets * Section 1_2 * Passwork/Email * Grades Thanks! Karen Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 "The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.? Tim Berners-Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at altformatsolutions.com Wed Aug 6 13:34:31 2014 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Sub-lists In-Reply-To: <349bb9824a3c4d378d438894f67194b1@BN1PR0101MB0802.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <349bb9824a3c4d378d438894f67194b1@BN1PR0101MB0802.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: <018801cfb1b5$d3aab250$7b0016f0$@altformatsolutions.com> It looks like it may be a problem with the list structure but also partially a user education problem. Without seeing the actual code it is hard to tell. Nested lists like this are a really an issue with many novice screen reader users, and based on here comments I would think this may be true. One of the things I always tell users is don?t believe what you hear, especially on lists, menus and the like. But to navigate through them using their keyboard to verify. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Carin Headrick Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:15 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Sub-lists Hi. Hmmm my screen reader, JAWS at the moment, didn?t really think that was a list at all, but I wonder if that?s something to do with it being changed somehow when it became an email. Usually JAWS will say, for example, ?list of 5 items? and when it reaches the sub-list, ?list of 1 items nesting level 1? which indicates it?s inside the other list. I would have to check what NVDA or Voiceover does though. Sorry I couldn?t be of much help. Carin From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Sorensen Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:58 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Sub-lists Hi Colleagues, In working with a screen reader user, she expressed confusion about a sub-list. JAWS just read "list of 5 items" but before it reached the end of those 5 items, it read "list of 1 item". She thought something was wrong because it hadn't read all of the five items. Is there a better way to mark this up so it's obvious the list of 1 item is a sub-list? I asked if she could tell it was a sub-list because it hadn't reached the end of the 5 items yet, but she was more inclined to not believe the "list of 5 items" was correct. Here's the list: * Main Menu * Courses * Homework Sets * Section 1_2 * Passwork/Email * Grades Thanks! Karen Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 "The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.? Tim Berners-Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Wed Aug 6 13:44:02 2014 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Sub-lists In-Reply-To: <018801cfb1b5$d3aab250$7b0016f0$@altformatsolutions.com> References: <349bb9824a3c4d378d438894f67194b1@BN1PR0101MB0802.prod.exchangelabs.com> <018801cfb1b5$d3aab250$7b0016f0$@altformatsolutions.com> Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846BF48EBD@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> I will say the list read correctly for me in my copy of the message. Other systems may have reformatted so that it didn?t read correctly though. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:35 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Sub-lists It looks like it may be a problem with the list structure but also partially a user education problem. Without seeing the actual code it is hard to tell. Nested lists like this are a really an issue with many novice screen reader users, and based on here comments I would think this may be true. One of the things I always tell users is don?t believe what you hear, especially on lists, menus and the like. But to navigate through them using their keyboard to verify. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Carin Headrick Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:15 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Sub-lists Hi. Hmmm my screen reader, JAWS at the moment, didn?t really think that was a list at all, but I wonder if that?s something to do with it being changed somehow when it became an email. Usually JAWS will say, for example, ?list of 5 items? and when it reaches the sub-list, ?list of 1 items nesting level 1? which indicates it?s inside the other list. I would have to check what NVDA or Voiceover does though. Sorry I couldn?t be of much help. Carin From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Sorensen Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:58 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Sub-lists Hi Colleagues, In working with a screen reader user, she expressed confusion about a sub-list. JAWS just read "list of 5 items" but before it reached the end of those 5 items, it read "list of 1 item". She thought something was wrong because it hadn't read all of the five items. Is there a better way to mark this up so it's obvious the list of 1 item is a sub-list? I asked if she could tell it was a sub-list because it hadn't reached the end of the 5 items yet, but she was more inclined to not believe the "list of 5 items" was correct. Here's the list: * Main Menu * Courses * Homework Sets * Section 1_2 * Passwork/Email * Grades Thanks! Karen Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 "The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.? Tim Berners-Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SolowoniukR at macewan.ca Thu Aug 7 10:55:51 2014 From: SolowoniukR at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Sub-lists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <53E36947020000EC000324FF@gatedom2vs.macewan.ca> Hi Karen, Jaws read the list fine, but, I am finding the list a bit confusing as well. Why are the last two items in the list, "Passwork/Email and Grades" separated from the first 3 items? Do they belong to "Section 1_2"? Not being able to "see" the list does make it a little hard to understand. Thanks, Russell >>> Karen Sorensen 8/6/2014 1:58 PM >>> Hi Colleagues, In working with a screen reader user, she expressed confusion about a sub-list. JAWS just read "list of 5 items" but before it reached the end of those 5 items, it read "list of 1 item". She thought something was wrong because it hadn't read all of the five items. Is there a better way to mark this up so it's obvious the list of 1 item is a sub-list? I asked if she could tell it was a sub-list because it hadn't reached the end of the 5 items yet, but she was more inclined to not believe the "list of 5 items" was correct. and Here's the list: - Main Menu - Courses - Homework Sets - Section 1_2 - Passwork/Email - Grades Thanks! Karen Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 *"The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.** Tim Berners-Lee From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Thu Aug 7 13:17:13 2014 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Sub-lists In-Reply-To: <53E36947020000EC000324FF@gatedom2vs.macewan.ca> References: <53E36947020000EC000324FF@gatedom2vs.macewan.ca> Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846C14A2AC@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Hmmm, the way this list read was very confusing because it did not maintain the HTML code. This is quite different from what I received in my original message. Interesting. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 12:56 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Sub-lists Hi Karen, Jaws read the list fine, but, I am finding the list a bit confusing as well. Why are the last two items in the list, "Passwork/Email and Grades" separated from the first 3 items? Do they belong to "Section 1_2"? Not being able to "see" the list does make it a little hard to understand. Thanks, Russell >>> Karen Sorensen 8/6/2014 1:58 PM >>> Hi Colleagues, In working with a screen reader user, she expressed confusion about a sub-list. JAWS just read "list of 5 items" but before it reached the end of those 5 items, it read "list of 1 item". She thought something was wrong because it hadn't read all of the five items. Is there a better way to mark this up so it's obvious the list of 1 item is a sub-list? I asked if she could tell it was a sub-list because it hadn't reached the end of the 5 items yet, but she was more inclined to not believe the "list of 5 items" was correct. and Here's the list: - Main Menu - Courses - Homework Sets - Section 1_2 - Passwork/Email - Grades Thanks! Karen Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 *"The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.** Tim Berners-Lee _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From SolowoniukR at macewan.ca Thu Aug 7 14:15:37 2014 From: SolowoniukR at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Sub-lists In-Reply-To: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846C14A2AC@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> References: <53E36947020000EC000324FF@gatedom2vs.macewan.ca> <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846C14A2AC@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: <53E39819020000EC00032515@gatedom2vs.macewan.ca> Hi Robert, That's probably because I sent it in plain text format as opposed to HTML. We use GroupWise as our email client, and, if I try to compose email messages in HTML format, Jaws won't read what I type. Sorry about that! :) Russell >>> Robert Beach 8/7/2014 2:17 PM >>> Hmmm, the way this list read was very confusing because it did not maintain the HTML code. This is quite different from what I received in my original message. Interesting. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 12:56 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Sub-lists Hi Karen, Jaws read the list fine, but, I am finding the list a bit confusing as well. Why are the last two items in the list, "Passwork/Email and Grades" separated from the first 3 items? Do they belong to "Section 1_2"? Not being able to "see" the list does make it a little hard to understand. Thanks, Russell >>> Karen Sorensen 8/6/2014 1:58 PM >>> Hi Colleagues, In working with a screen reader user, she expressed confusion about a sub-list. JAWS just read "list of 5 items" but before it reached the end of those 5 items, it read "list of 1 item". She thought something was wrong because it hadn't read all of the five items. Is there a better way to mark this up so it's obvious the list of 1 item is a sub-list? I asked if she could tell it was a sub-list because it hadn't reached the end of the 5 items yet, but she was more inclined to not believe the "list of 5 items" was correct. and Here's the list: - Main Menu - Courses - Homework Sets - Section 1_2 - Passwork/Email - Grades Thanks! Karen Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 *"The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.** Tim Berners-Lee _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Thu Aug 7 17:51:44 2014 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Sub-lists In-Reply-To: <53E39819020000EC00032515@gatedom2vs.macewan.ca> References: <53E36947020000EC000324FF@gatedom2vs.macewan.ca> <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846C14A2AC@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL>, <53E39819020000EC00032515@gatedom2vs.macewan.ca> Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846C14A32B@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Hmmm, that explains it. I would have found the list in the message you had to be confussing as well. ________________________________________ From: athen-list [athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] on behalf of Russell Solowoniuk [SolowoniukR@macewan.ca] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 4:15 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Sub-lists Hi Robert, That's probably because I sent it in plain text format as opposed to HTML. We use GroupWise as our email client, and, if I try to compose email messages in HTML format, Jaws won't read what I type. Sorry about that! :) Russell >>> Robert Beach 8/7/2014 2:17 PM >>> Hmmm, the way this list read was very confusing because it did not maintain the HTML code. This is quite different from what I received in my original message. Interesting. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 12:56 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Sub-lists Hi Karen, Jaws read the list fine, but, I am finding the list a bit confusing as well. Why are the last two items in the list, "Passwork/Email and Grades" separated from the first 3 items? Do they belong to "Section 1_2"? Not being able to "see" the list does make it a little hard to understand. Thanks, Russell >>> Karen Sorensen 8/6/2014 1:58 PM >>> Hi Colleagues, In working with a screen reader user, she expressed confusion about a sub-list. JAWS just read "list of 5 items" but before it reached the end of those 5 items, it read "list of 1 item". She thought something was wrong because it hadn't read all of the five items. Is there a better way to mark this up so it's obvious the list of 1 item is a sub-list? I asked if she could tell it was a sub-list because it hadn't reached the end of the 5 items yet, but she was more inclined to not believe the "list of 5 items" was correct. and Here's the list: - Main Menu - Courses - Homework Sets - Section 1_2 - Passwork/Email - Grades Thanks! Karen Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 *"The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.** Tim Berners-Lee _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From karen.sorensen at pcc.edu Fri Aug 8 10:31:59 2014 From: karen.sorensen at pcc.edu (Karen Sorensen) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] sub-lists Message-ID: Hi Colleagues, Thanks for all the feedback. With closer listening, we heard JAWS say, sub-list of one item, but she was not sure what a sub-list is. I found this a very interesting point. She expressed the same confusion over some ARIA labels. And this JAWS user is very experienced! As web developers, we should be more careful that the semantic structure we work so hard to create, is explained to the end user. How is a blind user supposed to learn about ARIA , sub-lists and such things? She navigates mainly with arrow keys in order not to miss anything when she's new to a page. And who can blame her since most pages she probably encounters aren't structured properly. Best, Karen Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 *"The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.?* Tim Berners-Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carin.headrick at d2l.com Fri Aug 8 10:38:57 2014 From: carin.headrick at d2l.com (Carin Headrick) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] sub-lists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5eadbe9bc1df4ffa8fcd7bb9dea415e2@BN1PR0101MB0802.prod.exchangelabs.com> A lot of this stuff we have to learn as we go. It?s just a great big game of pattern recognition. Sometimes the context of the list items can give you the idea that this list is a sub-part of another list, but you?re right, sometimes that connection is not apparent. Carin From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Sorensen Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 1:32 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] sub-lists Hi Colleagues, Thanks for all the feedback. With closer listening, we heard JAWS say, sub-list of one item, but she was not sure what a sub-list is. I found this a very interesting point. She expressed the same confusion over some ARIA labels. And this JAWS user is very experienced! As web developers, we should be more careful that the semantic structure we work so hard to create, is explained to the end user. How is a blind user supposed to learn about ARIA , sub-lists and such things? She navigates mainly with arrow keys in order not to miss anything when she's new to a page. And who can blame her since most pages she probably encounters aren't structured properly. Best, Karen Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 "The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.? Tim Berners-Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mstores at indiana.edu Fri Aug 8 10:41:05 2014 From: mstores at indiana.edu (Stores, Mary A.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] sub-lists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <064E45D161E0094A84CB7C4AE99ED5C710D8C7B5@IU-MSSG-MBX102.ads.iu.edu> Freedom Scientific has this tutorial called Surf?s Up: Surfing the Internet with JAWS. The JAWS user could listen to that and find out how certain .html elements and ARIA markup is conveyed. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Sorensen Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 1:32 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] sub-lists Hi Colleagues, Thanks for all the feedback. With closer listening, we heard JAWS say, sub-list of one item, but she was not sure what a sub-list is. I found this a very interesting point. She expressed the same confusion over some ARIA labels. And this JAWS user is very experienced! As web developers, we should be more careful that the semantic structure we work so hard to create, is explained to the end user. How is a blind user supposed to learn about ARIA , sub-lists and such things? She navigates mainly with arrow keys in order not to miss anything when she's new to a page. And who can blame her since most pages she probably encounters aren't structured properly. Best, Karen Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 "The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.? Tim Berners-Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.sorensen at pcc.edu Fri Aug 8 13:04:55 2014 From: karen.sorensen at pcc.edu (Karen Sorensen) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] sub-lists Message-ID: Great idea Mary! Thanks everyone! As always, valuable feedback from all. In answer to Russell, I don't know why the list was designed that way. It's not a site I can edit. Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 *"The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.?* Tim Berners-Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpuzz at msu.edu Wed Aug 13 08:12:07 2014 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of 25Live Event Scheduling Platform? Message-ID: Hi, Just wondering whether anyone has had experience with this platform? Our university is evaluating it and I've been asked to test accessibility. I've spent all of 5 minutes with it so far. The UI seems somewhat nonstandard and slow to respond with Jaws, but mostly usable. Their recommended browsers are Chrome and Firefox. It can be used with IE, but requires the installation of the ChromeFrame plugin. Not sure if that has any accessibility implications. Didn't see any mention of Safari. Any experiences others can share would be welcome, Thanks, Al Puzzuoli Information Technologist Michigan State University, Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities, 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 517-884-1915 http://www.rcpd.msu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From easi.easi at gmail.com Sat Aug 16 15:01:06 2014 From: easi.easi at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Who is using canvas for web conferencing? Message-ID: <53efe564.45283c0a.1cc3.78f0@mx.google.com> I would like to start learning about canvas as a web conferencing application. I'd appreciate hearing from anyone with any experience using it. I also am eager to know what it has done to make it accessible????? Norm Coombs From norm.coombs at gmail.com Sun Aug 17 21:25:51 2014 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] downloading Open Office (Writer only)! Message-ID: <53f18070.aa50b60a.7f4a.1429@mx.google.com> All google seems to find for me is how to download the full Open Office Suite. I want to use Writer on a very small netbook computer running Windows 7. I hope not to fill up the internal drive with the entire open office suite. Does anyone know where I can locate the writer only? From foreigntype at gmail.com Sun Aug 17 21:56:59 2014 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] downloading Open Office (Writer only)! In-Reply-To: <53f18070.aa50b60a.7f4a.1429@mx.google.com> References: <53f18070.aa50b60a.7f4a.1429@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <16C8D5D1-28D9-4967-84D5-B5ED06BC073A@gmail.com> Norm, et al ATHENites The website for Open Office indicates you cannot download just the Writer, but you can achieve a single component install by clicking the download link and then selecting CUSTOM INSTALL. From this, choose Writer only. You should be good to go. The site I checked doesn't recommend this, though. Let me know if you need more info. Hope this is helpful. Wink Wink Harner foreigntype@gmail.com > On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Prof Norm Coombs wrote: > > All google seems to find for me is how to download the full Open Office Suite. I want to use Writer on a very small netbook computer running Windows 7. I hope not to fill up the internal drive with the entire open office suite. > > Does anyone know where I can locate the writer only? > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From Robin.Bloomfield at d2l.com Mon Aug 18 06:02:45 2014 From: Robin.Bloomfield at d2l.com (Robin Bloomfield) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] downloading Open Office (Writer only)! In-Reply-To: <16C8D5D1-28D9-4967-84D5-B5ED06BC073A@gmail.com> References: <53f18070.aa50b60a.7f4a.1429@mx.google.com> <16C8D5D1-28D9-4967-84D5-B5ED06BC073A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0d13824d8d174a80aab54b37dcecf395@BLUPR01MB470.prod.exchangelabs.com> Dear Norm et al, Perhaps portable apps would be a good solution: http://portableapps.com/apps/office. You could install it on a usb stick and plugin it into the netbook when needed, if that would match your needs. You could use a portable version of Open Office or Libre Office (http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable). If you are considered at taking up space on the hard drive. There are also other portable basic Word Processors available (http://portableapps.com/apps/office) Robin Bloomfield Courseware Developer Desire2Learn Incorporated 519-772-0325 www.brightspace.com D2L is hiring!?Make learning more pervasive, perceptive, and personalized for the entire world: www.D2L.com/Careers -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 12:57 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] downloading Open Office (Writer only)! Norm, et al ATHENites The website for Open Office indicates you cannot download just the Writer, but you can achieve a single component install by clicking the download link and then selecting CUSTOM INSTALL. From this, choose Writer only. You should be good to go. The site I checked doesn't recommend this, though. Let me know if you need more info. Hope this is helpful. Wink Wink Harner foreigntype@gmail.com > On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Prof Norm Coombs wrote: > > All google seems to find for me is how to download the full Open Office Suite. I want to use Writer on a very small netbook computer running Windows 7. I hope not to fill up the internal drive with the entire open office suite. > > Does anyone know where I can locate the writer only? > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From erinlau at umich.edu Mon Aug 18 06:27:07 2014 From: erinlau at umich.edu (Erin Lauridsen) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] downloading Open Office (Writer only)! In-Reply-To: <0d13824d8d174a80aab54b37dcecf395@BLUPR01MB470.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <53f18070.aa50b60a.7f4a.1429@mx.google.com> <16C8D5D1-28D9-4967-84D5-B5ED06BC073A@gmail.com> <0d13824d8d174a80aab54b37dcecf395@BLUPR01MB470.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: Depending on the feature set you need, I've had good luck with the Word Processor Jaarte for basic writing and editing. Erin On 8/18/14, Robin Bloomfield wrote: > Dear Norm et al, > > Perhaps portable apps would be a good solution: > http://portableapps.com/apps/office. You could install it on a usb stick and > plugin it into the netbook when needed, if that would match your needs. > > You could use a portable version of Open Office or Libre Office > (http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable). > > If you are considered at taking up space on the hard drive. There are also > other portable basic Word Processors available > (http://portableapps.com/apps/office) > > > Robin Bloomfield > Courseware Developer > Desire2Learn Incorporated > 519-772-0325 > www.brightspace.com > > > > D2L is hiring!?Make learning more pervasive, perceptive, and personalized > for the entire world: www.D2L.com/Careers > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On > Behalf Of Wink Harner > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 12:57 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] downloading Open Office (Writer only)! > > Norm, et al ATHENites > > The website for Open Office indicates you cannot download just the Writer, > but you can achieve a single component install by clicking the download link > and then selecting CUSTOM INSTALL. From this, choose Writer only. You should > be good to go. The site I checked doesn't recommend this, though. Let me > know if you need more info. > > Hope this is helpful. > > Wink > Wink Harner > foreigntype@gmail.com > >> On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Prof Norm Coombs >> wrote: >> >> All google seems to find for me is how to download the full Open Office >> Suite. I want to use Writer on a very small netbook computer running >> Windows 7. I hope not to fill up the internal drive with the entire open >> office suite. >> >> Does anyone know where I can locate the writer only? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Erin Lauridsen Screen Reader Specialist University of Michigan erinlau@umich.edu (734) 764-7825 From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 09:11:42 2014 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] downloading Open Office (Writer only)! In-Reply-To: <0d13824d8d174a80aab54b37dcecf395@BLUPR01MB470.prod.exchang elabs.com> References: <53f18070.aa50b60a.7f4a.1429@mx.google.com> <16C8D5D1-28D9-4967-84D5-B5ED06BC073A@gmail.com> <0d13824d8d174a80aab54b37dcecf395@BLUPR01MB470.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: <53f225e2.6303b70a.383c.4e2e@mx.google.com> Thanks re portable apps. At 06:02 AM 8/18/2014, you wrote: >Dear Norm et al, > >Perhaps portable apps would be a good solution: >http://portableapps.com/apps/office. You could install it on a usb >stick and plugin it into the netbook when needed, if that would >match your needs. > >You could use a portable version of Open Office or Libre Office >(http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable). > >If you are considered at taking up space on the hard drive. There >are also other portable basic Word Processors available >(http://portableapps.com/apps/office) > > >Robin Bloomfield >Courseware Developer >Desire2Learn Incorporated >519-772-0325 >www.brightspace.com > > > >D2L is hiring! Make learning more pervasive, perceptive, and >personalized for the entire world: www.D2L.com/Careers > >-----Original Message----- >From: athen-list >[mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Wink Harner >Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 12:57 AM >To: Access Technology Higher Education Network >Subject: Re: [Athen] downloading Open Office (Writer only)! > >Norm, et al ATHENites > >The website for Open Office indicates you cannot download just the >Writer, but you can achieve a single component install by clicking >the download link and then selecting CUSTOM INSTALL. From this, >choose Writer only. You should be good to go. The site I checked >doesn't recommend this, though. Let me know if you need more info. > >Hope this is helpful. > >Wink >Wink Harner >foreigntype@gmail.com > > > On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Prof Norm Coombs > wrote: > > > > All google seems to find for me is how to download the full Open > Office Suite. I want to use Writer on a very small netbook computer > running Windows 7. 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Questions: 1. The student will essentially be learning tactile signing and not ASL. This seems like a fundamental alteration of the coursework for the ASL course. Am I off base here?? 2. If the instructor does not know tactile signing, how will he/she be able to evaluate the student's knowledge? 3. Is there another way to accommodate an individual who is blind in this ASL course? I was thinking that an interpreter or other individual could sit next to the student and manipulate the student's fingers/arm to show what the sign is. Not sure how disruptive this would be in the class though... Any suggestions or comments for accommodating this student in the ASL course would be appreciated! Thanks! Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 13:48:45 2014 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Interesting Question Regarding Requested Accommodation... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01bc01cfbb25$cf10c300$6d324900$@gmail.com> Cassandra et al ATHENites, Here are my two cents today: If the student is proficient in Tactile Sign, I would say go with the TS Interpreter to allow access to the class. If the student is not proficient in Tactile Sign, this is not the platform for them to learn sign language. Find them the contact info they need with whatever Federation for the Blind mobility & orientation office is in your area and get them hooked up with TS training & acquisition. What are their reasons for learning ASL? To fulfill a language requirement? It would work if the student already knew TS. A minor adjustment in the communication would be implemented (instead of seeing and responding to the sign, the student would feel and respond to the sign and the TS interpreter signs the response). Pepnet might be a really good resource for you to follow up with regarding TS Interpreters. They might have other suggestions regarding significant functional differences between TS and ASL that I may not have thought of. Hope my 2 cents was helpful. Blessings, Wink From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Cassandra L. Tex Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 1:28 PM To: ATHEN Listserv Subject: [Athen] Interesting Question Regarding Requested Accommodation... Greetings All, Had an interesting question this morning regarding a requested accommodation at a neighboring community college.. The Scenario: Student who is blind (no usable vision) is enrolled in an American Sign Language course. The accommodation she is requesting is a tactile signer. There is an interpreter in the area that knows tactile signing (we are a rural area so our interpreting pool of qualified interpreters is limited). The instructor does not know tactile signing. Questions: 1. The student will essentially be learning tactile signing and not ASL. This seems like a fundamental alteration of the coursework for the ASL course. Am I off base here?? 2. If the instructor does not know tactile signing, how will he/she be able to evaluate the student's knowledge? 3. Is there another way to accommodate an individual who is blind in this ASL course? I was thinking that an interpreter or other individual could sit next to the student and manipulate the student's fingers/arm to show what the sign is. Not sure how disruptive this would be in the class though. Any suggestions or comments for accommodating this student in the ASL course would be appreciated! Thanks! 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Then the actual class time would be more of a practice session. Does this student understand that tactile sign and ASL aren't the same? People think that Braille and raised print are synonymous, for example. Maybe a discussion of their request is in order. Carin From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Cassandra L. Tex Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 4:28 PM To: ATHEN Listserv Subject: [Athen] Interesting Question Regarding Requested Accommodation... Greetings All, Had an interesting question this morning regarding a requested accommodation at a neighboring community college.. The Scenario: Student who is blind (no usable vision) is enrolled in an American Sign Language course. The accommodation she is requesting is a tactile signer. There is an interpreter in the area that knows tactile signing (we are a rural area so our interpreting pool of qualified interpreters is limited). The instructor does not know tactile signing. Questions: 1. The student will essentially be learning tactile signing and not ASL. This seems like a fundamental alteration of the coursework for the ASL course. Am I off base here?? 2. If the instructor does not know tactile signing, how will he/she be able to evaluate the student's knowledge? 3. Is there another way to accommodate an individual who is blind in this ASL course? I was thinking that an interpreter or other individual could sit next to the student and manipulate the student's fingers/arm to show what the sign is. Not sure how disruptive this would be in the class though... Any suggestions or comments for accommodating this student in the ASL course would be appreciated! Thanks! Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Last time I tried using it it did not work well at all. > > Thanks. > > > Robert Lee Beach > Assistive Technology Specialist > Kansas City Kansas Community College > 7250 State Avenue > Kansas City, KS 66112 > 913-288-7671 > rbeach@kckcc.edu > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SolowoniukR at macewan.ca Tue Aug 19 13:33:42 2014 From: SolowoniukR at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] screen readers and Chrome In-Reply-To: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846C14E64D@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> References: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846C14E64D@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: <53F36046020000EC000329D7@gatedom2vs.macewan.ca> Hi Robert, I find using Chrome with Jaws for Windows or VO on the Mac to be hit and miss... some pages work well, and some not so well. I think the experience is better on the Mac with VO than in Windows with Jaws. I haven't tried Chrome with NVDA. In Windows, using Jaws, I find that when I type into an edit field, for example, the search field in Google, the text doesn't get read by Jaws all the time. The text is there, but if you try to read the line, Jaws just says "Blank". Also, many times, pressing enter on a link will not activate the link. Here is a link with some info regarding various screen readers with Chrome that you might find helpful. https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/96831?hl=en HTH Russell >>> Robert Beach 8/19/2014 8:29 AM >>> Hi all, What is the latest state of Chrome with screen readers? Last time I tried using it it did not work well at all. Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From skeegan at stanford.edu Tue Aug 19 14:50:50 2014 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Recommendations for Dragon Bluetooth mic? Message-ID: <9477D043-C31A-4FD7-AA93-EE755AA373DE@stanford.edu> Hello all, I am working with a student who is considering a Bluetooth mic for using with Dragon NaturallySpeaking 13. We have it installed and running on a MS Surface Pro 3. As there is only one USB port on the Surface Pro 3, the student is seriously considering a wireless headset. Also, it is REALLY easy to pull the tablet off a desk by catching the headset cord. While I checked out the Nuance website for recommended wireless Dragon headsets, a majority of these appear to be for telephony products and/or come with a base station or USB dongle that is designed to connect to a computer. Has anyone used a Bluetooth headset for Dragon that was found to have good sound quality and functionality for speech recognition? By the way - Dragon 13 on an MS Surface Pro 3 (Core i7, 8GB of RAM) is fantastic. Great option for a student with repetitive stress injuries as the tablet is light, easily responds to touch, and is very responsive with Dragon. Take care, Sean Sean Keegan Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University From nettiet at gmail.com Tue Aug 19 16:11:16 2014 From: nettiet at gmail.com (Nettie Fischer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Recommendations for Dragon Bluetooth mic? In-Reply-To: <9477D043-C31A-4FD7-AA93-EE755AA373DE@stanford.edu> References: <9477D043-C31A-4FD7-AA93-EE755AA373DE@stanford.edu> Message-ID: Have you looked at the Bluetooth "Tone Ultra by LG ?Nettie's Nickel? On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Sean Keegan wrote: > Hello all, > > I am working with a student who is considering a Bluetooth mic for using > with Dragon NaturallySpeaking 13. We have it installed and running on a MS > Surface Pro 3. As there is only one USB port on the Surface Pro 3, the > student is seriously considering a wireless headset. Also, it is REALLY > easy to pull the tablet off a desk by catching the headset cord. > > While I checked out the Nuance website for recommended wireless Dragon > headsets, a majority of these appear to be for telephony products and/or > come with a base station or USB dongle that is designed to connect to a > computer. > > Has anyone used a Bluetooth headset for Dragon that was found to have good > sound quality and functionality for speech recognition? > > By the way - Dragon 13 on an MS Surface Pro 3 (Core i7, 8GB of RAM) is > fantastic. Great option for a student with repetitive stress injuries as > the tablet is light, easily responds to touch, and is very responsive with > Dragon. > > Take care, > Sean > > Sean Keegan > Associate Director, Assistive Technology > Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- *Nettie T. Fischer, ATPAssistive Technology Professional* *RESNA Certified* *California Certified NPA Nettiet, ATP Consultantswww.nettietatpconsultants.com * *[916] 686-1860 FAX(916) 704-1456 Cell* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ndogbo at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 11:46:39 2014 From: ndogbo at gmail.com (N. Dogbo) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Refreshable Braille Display - Old tech with new PC In-Reply-To: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F64737B809@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> References: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F64737B809@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> Message-ID: If the machines are in good shape and working order, I would say try a good para / serial to USB adaptor first. Refreshable displays aren't cheap, so before you throw them away I'd suggest you try cheap workaround first. My 2 cents HTH Nicaise On 8/20/14, Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) wrote: > Hi all, > > We are upgrading our computers and have older PowerBraille displays which > are using parallel and serial ports for communicating with the PC. Has > anyone successfully used a USB adapter and have the communication stay > reliable? Or, is it time to invest in newer technologies? > > Thanks for the suggestions! > > Dawn > > ~~ > Dawn Hunziker > IT Accessibility Consultant > > Disability Resource Center > University of Arizona > 1224 E. Lowell St. > Tucson, AZ 85721 > > Phone: 520-626-9409 > Fax: 520-626-5500 > hunziker@email.arizona.edu > http://drc.arizona.edu > > -- ----- Think not with your EYES and you shall have a perfect VISION! --- From Cassandra.Tex at humboldt.edu Wed Aug 20 13:29:17 2014 From: Cassandra.Tex at humboldt.edu (Cassandra L. Tex) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote Real-Time Captioning and Bluetooth Microphones for iPad Message-ID: <57e09addf778ef6b8b7a103e12251956@mail.gmail.com> Greetings All, Has anyone used iPads for remote real-time captioning? What type of microphone (presumably Bluetooth) did you use? Was it a lapel mic or did the professor actually have to put it on his/her head? I wouldn't think the built-in microphone on an iPad would be sufficient in a classroom setting... In the past we have used laptops with Revolabs wireless lapel microphones for remote real-time captioning. The vendor we contract with for the real-time captioning uses Skype and we've never had a problem with sound quality with our setup (wireless network, laptop with Skype, and revolabs lapel mic). However, we're looking for a more compact way to provide real-time captioning (and perhaps even using the student's own device if available). Hauling a laptop around can be cumbersome... Would love suggestions on Bluetooth microphones that could work. What is the range of a Bluetooth microphone? How far can the person with the microphone be from the device it's paired with? It probably depends on the device, but in general, how far apart can the devices be? Having a CART transcriber in the room is not an option. We are in a rural area and don't have folks in the area with this skill. Thanks! 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Eileen Connell Berger Assistant Director Office of Student Affairs, Access and Disability Services Administrator Harvard University Graduate School of Education Gutman Library 124 A&B 6 Appian Way, Cambridge, Ma. 02138 phone: 617 495 9608 fax: 617 496 8024 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Cassandra L. Tex Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:29 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Remote Real-Time Captioning and Bluetooth Microphones for iPad Greetings All, Has anyone used iPads for remote real-time captioning? What type of microphone (presumably Bluetooth) did you use? Was it a lapel mic or did the professor actually have to put it on his/her head? I wouldn't think the built-in microphone on an iPad would be sufficient in a classroom setting... In the past we have used laptops with Revolabs wireless lapel microphones for remote real-time captioning. The vendor we contract with for the real-time captioning uses Skype and we've never had a problem with sound quality with our setup (wireless network, laptop with Skype, and revolabs lapel mic). However, we're looking for a more compact way to provide real-time captioning (and perhaps even using the student's own device if available). Hauling a laptop around can be cumbersome... Would love suggestions on Bluetooth microphones that could work. What is the range of a Bluetooth microphone? How far can the person with the microphone be from the device it's paired with? It probably depends on the device, but in general, how far apart can the devices be? Having a CART transcriber in the room is not an option. We are in a rural area and don't have folks in the area with this skill. Thanks! Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University tex@humboldt.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am unsure of how this worked, I purchased the headset but as of yet have not explored the ability to dictate from a distance. Hmm, need to give it a try tonight and will let you know about the results. As far as the weight of a laptop, the new detachable laptops offer the power of a computer with a detachable touchscreen that works like a tablet but, you get to use computer software. I have explored the ASUS Transformer and was pleasantly surprised. The computer is lightweight and, the student could transport just the tablet screen section if housed in a backpack safe case. I did explore using Interact-AS two years ago. This is a software program that transcribes the teacher's lectures into a laptop using an engine similar to Dragon's (not too techno savvy with the correct language ;{ )- The data I collected is noted below (got to love, copy and paste). 602 characters with spaces ? this is the text that was picked up from the recording ? errors in the software text Calculations: Total characters with spaces of Interact-AS Text: 9436 Total characters without spaces of Interact-AS text: 7772 Calculation: Accurate characters with spaces 602 (needed changes of 9436 total characters 8834 Correct characters ? 9436 total characters = ~ 93% Accuracy Rate Curious if the accuracy rate has increased in the past two years. I wonder if you used Dragon Preferred or better with a bluetooth mic and a detachable laptop with 8 G RAM, if the results would not be effective in the classroom setting. Nettie's nickel On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Cassandra L. Tex < Cassandra.Tex@humboldt.edu> wrote: > Greetings All, > > Has anyone used iPads for remote real-time captioning? What type of > microphone (presumably Bluetooth) did you use? Was it a lapel mic or did > the professor actually have to put it on his/her head? I wouldn?t think > the built-in microphone on an iPad would be sufficient in a classroom > setting? > > > > In the past we have used laptops with Revolabs wireless lapel microphones > for remote real-time captioning. The vendor we contract with for the > real-time captioning uses Skype and we?ve never had a problem with sound > quality with our setup (wireless network, laptop with Skype, and revolabs > lapel mic). However, we?re looking for a more compact way to provide > real-time captioning (and perhaps even using the student?s own device if > available). Hauling a laptop around can be cumbersome? > > > > Would love suggestions on Bluetooth microphones that could work. What is > the range of a Bluetooth microphone? How far can the person with the > microphone be from the device it?s paired with? It probably depends on the > device, but in general, how far apart can the devices be? > > > > Having a CART transcriber in the room is not an option. We are in a rural > area and don?t have folks in the area with this skill. > > > > Thanks! > > Cassandra Tex > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Humboldt State University > > tex@humboldt.edu > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- *Nettie T. Fischer, ATPAssistive Technology Professional* *RESNA Certified* *California Certified NPA Nettiet, ATP Consultantswww.nettietatpconsultants.com * *[916] 686-1860 FAX(916) 704-1456 Cell* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JElmer at vcccd.edu Wed Aug 20 18:37:56 2014 From: JElmer at vcccd.edu (John Elmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question on tactile graphics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4095CE40-B958-4FA8-BDFD-77E33856DA41@vcccd.edu> We've gotten tons of math related PIAF graphics via the CA Comm College System's Alternate Text Production Center, and students have been happy w/them. On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:16 PM, "Linda Petty" > wrote: Any feedback on the PIAF Pictures in a Flash Graphic Maker? Or other tactile graphics systems that are particularly good with graphs, line drawings, more of the math/science component, for post-secondary? Thanks Linda Petty, O.T. Reg. (Ont.) Assistive Technology Consultant AccessAbility Services a division of Student Affairs UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO SCARBOROUGH Science Wing, Room SW302G 1265 Military Trail, Toronto, Ontario M1C 1A4 Direct Line: 416-208-5144 Tel/TTY (appointments): 416-287-7560 Fax: 416-287-7334 www.utsc.utoronto.ca/ability Tomorrow is created here. This electronic message and all contents contain information that may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy the original message and all copies. _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Wed Aug 20 18:59:19 2014 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote Real-Time Captioning and Bluetooth Microphones for iPad In-Reply-To: <57e09addf778ef6b8b7a103e12251956@mail.gmail.com> References: <57e09addf778ef6b8b7a103e12251956@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <244E4606-7AB5-4350-AD55-CC242BDA7504@stanford.edu> Maybe it's me, but I am always a bit leery of Bluetooth devices and their reliability/stability with iOS. I agree completely that it very well may depend on the Bluetooth device, but I seem to get ones that drop out the connection at various times. It's one thing if you are on the phone and that can be annoying, but a classroom situation would make that failure far less tolerable. Class 3 Bluetooth radios are limited to a range between 1-3 feet. Class 2 Bluetooth radios can go up to 30 feet (or so). Class 1 Bluetooth radios are also known as long-range Bluetooth devices and can go up to 100 feet (or so). That said, if there is any type of interference, this range can decrease. I believe USB 3.0 devices in close proximity to a Bluetooth device can have a negative impact on data throughput due to electrical noise. Usually, this means moving the Bluetooth or USB device around to evaluate the signal strength. One option may be to try the Sony ECM-AW3 Wireless Microphone (Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002DUCRXS/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_2?pf_rd_p=1535523722&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00F9ECDRU&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1P5450QWJJX1X1HQZQ3A) It is Bluetooth between the units and then you would need to run a line from the receiving unit into the iOS device. This could be a male-to-male 3.5mm jack. It's not Bluetooth between the mic and the iOS device directly, so that is a limitation. If you want to go pure Bluetooth, then a Sony SBH52 Headset may be an option (Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/SBH52-BLACK-BT-HEADSET-SPEAKER/dp/B00EI4FMHA). It seems like it would fit the solution you are looking for, but I have not tried it myself. In the reviews, it looks like some have tried using this with iOS and Android devices with good success. One solution we looked at was to use an FM transmitter and receiver. The instructor got the FM transmitter and the student then used the receiver that had a line out option (for a headset). We used this line out and connected that to a laptop's mic in with a male-to-male cable. That way, the instructor just had to use the FM transmitter and the student plugged the FM receiver into the audio in using the male-to-male connector. There was a remote transcriptionist on the other end listening and he reported very good clarity. Once again, not fully wireless, but it kept the parts to a minimum and the instructor just had the FM transmitter to wear (which also solved the issue if any other students needed an FM audio solution). Good luck - I am curious to find out what ends up working for you. Take care, Sean On Aug 20, 2014, at 1:29 PM, "Cassandra L. Tex" wrote: > Greetings All, > Has anyone used iPads for remote real-time captioning? What type of microphone (presumably Bluetooth) did you use? Was it a lapel mic or did the professor actually have to put it on his/her head? I wouldn?t think the built-in microphone on an iPad would be sufficient in a classroom setting? > > In the past we have used laptops with Revolabs wireless lapel microphones for remote real-time captioning. The vendor we contract with for the real-time captioning uses Skype and we?ve never had a problem with sound quality with our setup (wireless network, laptop with Skype, and revolabs lapel mic). However, we?re looking for a more compact way to provide real-time captioning (and perhaps even using the student?s own device if available). Hauling a laptop around can be cumbersome? > > Would love suggestions on Bluetooth microphones that could work. What is the range of a Bluetooth microphone? How far can the person with the microphone be from the device it?s paired with? It probably depends on the device, but in general, how far apart can the devices be? > > Having a CART transcriber in the room is not an option. We are in a rural area and don?t have folks in the area with this skill. > > Thanks! > Cassandra Tex > Assistive Technology Specialist > Humboldt State University > tex@humboldt.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From schwarte at purdue.edu Thu Aug 21 08:05:00 2014 From: schwarte at purdue.edu (Schwarte, David M.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Refreshable Braille Display - Old tech with new PC In-Reply-To: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F64737B809@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> References: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F64737B809@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <63138735C2D95546820096F109FED94E4F373AE9@WPVEXCMBX06.purdue.lcl> We ran into this with our PowerBraille a couple of years ago. The research I did at the time suggested that the USB/Parallel converters would only work with printers. I did purchase a few different brands of converters and confirmed than none of them worked. In some instances you may be able to purchase a parallel card for the computer. This would probably add an actual parallel port that the PowerBraille driver can find. I considered doing this, but I had done something similar in the past. At that time I was always battling with the support folks to keep the drivers installed for the hardware. I still have our PowerBraille on a test computer that still has a parallel port. David Schwarte From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:34 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Refreshable Braille Display - Old tech with new PC Hi all, We are upgrading our computers and have older PowerBraille displays which are using parallel and serial ports for communicating with the PC. Has anyone successfully used a USB adapter and have the communication stay reliable? Or, is it time to invest in newer technologies? Thanks for the suggestions! Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant Disability Resource Center University of Arizona 1224 E. Lowell St. Tucson, AZ 85721 Phone: 520-626-9409 Fax: 520-626-5500 hunziker@email.arizona.edu http://drc.arizona.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpuzz at msu.edu Thu Aug 21 09:34:20 2014 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Refreshable Braille Display - Old tech with new PC In-Reply-To: <63138735C2D95546820096F109FED94E4F373AE9@WPVEXCMBX06.purdue.lcl> References: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F64737B809@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> <63138735C2D95546820096F109FED94E4F373AE9@WPVEXCMBX06.purdue.lcl> Message-ID: Hi, Unfortunately, the ports are just one issue. If you're running a 64 bit version of Windows , it's possible that your screen reader doesn't even include drivers for most legacy displays anymore. We had some old Alva and Braille Window displays here and unfortunately, we had to put them out to pasture, as they just don't work with anything modern. Al Puzzuoli Information Technologist Michigan State University, Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities, 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 517-884-1915 http://www.rcpd.msu.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Schwarte, David M. Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:05 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Refreshable Braille Display - Old tech with new PC We ran into this with our PowerBraille a couple of years ago. The research I did at the time suggested that the USB/Parallel converters would only work with printers. I did purchase a few different brands of converters and confirmed than none of them worked. In some instances you may be able to purchase a parallel card for the computer. This would probably add an actual parallel port that the PowerBraille driver can find. I considered doing this, but I had done something similar in the past. At that time I was always battling with the support folks to keep the drivers installed for the hardware. I still have our PowerBraille on a test computer that still has a parallel port. David Schwarte From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:34 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Refreshable Braille Display - Old tech with new PC Hi all, We are upgrading our computers and have older PowerBraille displays which are using parallel and serial ports for communicating with the PC. Has anyone successfully used a USB adapter and have the communication stay reliable? Or, is it time to invest in newer technologies? Thanks for the suggestions! Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant Disability Resource Center University of Arizona 1224 E. Lowell St. Tucson, AZ 85721 Phone: 520-626-9409 Fax: 520-626-5500 hunziker@email.arizona.edu http://drc.arizona.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From travis at travisroth.com Thu Aug 21 09:47:53 2014 From: travis at travisroth.com (Travis Roth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Refreshable Braille Display - Old tech with new PC In-Reply-To: References: <20C7E36CF6580646B9BAD516583109F64737B809@SPACEMT.catnet.arizona.edu> <63138735C2D95546820096F109FED94E4F373AE9@WPVEXCMBX06.purdue.lcl> Message-ID: <016001cfbd5f$a71815b0$f5484110$@travisroth.com> This is true, however, PowerBraille was mentioned. This is now a Freedom Scientific device, so if you are using JAWS, JAWS does include drivers for it. Not sure about NVDA. I would suspect only serial port access, or serial over USB using a USB to serial adapter. I would also suspect parallel port support in Windows 64-bit version even if you found such a port would not work. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:34 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Refreshable Braille Display - Old tech with new PC Hi, Unfortunately, the ports are just one issue. If you're running a 64 bit version of Windows , it's possible that your screen reader doesn't even include drivers for most legacy displays anymore. We had some old Alva and Braille Window displays here and unfortunately, we had to put them out to pasture, as they just don't work with anything modern. Al Puzzuoli Information Technologist Michigan State University, Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities, 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 517-884-1915 http://www.rcpd.msu.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Schwarte, David M. Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:05 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Refreshable Braille Display - Old tech with new PC We ran into this with our PowerBraille a couple of years ago. The research I did at the time suggested that the USB/Parallel converters would only work with printers. I did purchase a few different brands of converters and confirmed than none of them worked. In some instances you may be able to purchase a parallel card for the computer. This would probably add an actual parallel port that the PowerBraille driver can find. I considered doing this, but I had done something similar in the past. At that time I was always battling with the support folks to keep the drivers installed for the hardware. I still have our PowerBraille on a test computer that still has a parallel port. David Schwarte From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:34 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Refreshable Braille Display - Old tech with new PC Hi all, We are upgrading our computers and have older PowerBraille displays which are using parallel and serial ports for communicating with the PC. Has anyone successfully used a USB adapter and have the communication stay reliable? Or, is it time to invest in newer technologies? Thanks for the suggestions! Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant Disability Resource Center University of Arizona 1224 E. Lowell St. Tucson, AZ 85721 Phone: 520-626-9409 Fax: 520-626-5500 hunziker@email.arizona.edu http://drc.arizona.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Elizabeth.Prickett at victoriacollege.edu Fri Aug 22 06:35:49 2014 From: Elizabeth.Prickett at victoriacollege.edu (Prickett, Elizabeth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Saving images for an online math class with iOS Message-ID: Good morning! I'm hoping that someone with more extensive iOS tech tricks has a solution to an online math course dilemma. We have an instructor who is teaching a College Algebra course online. Some of our students have little access to computers and/or internet unless it is via a mobile device. The instructor would like to allow students to upload images of their math work to Blackboard. She thought they could do it via a phone or tablet but right now we can only get it to work with Android devices. iOS saves all photos as "image" and Blackboard (understandably!) will only allow you to upload one file with the same file name. I was thinking that a possible solution would be to save the files to something like Google Drive or Dropbox first and change the file name there before uploading to Blackboard. However, we're trying to do this in as few steps as possible and as simply as possible for students. Does anyone know how to adjust the settings in iOS to manipulate file names? Thanks so much! Liz Prickett Alternative Media Specialist Center for Academic & Professional Excellence (CAPE) Victoria College 2200 E. Red River Street Victoria, TX 77901 Elizabeth.Prickett@VictoriaCollege.edu (361) 573-3291, ext. 3243 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dabrus at purdue.edu Fri Aug 22 07:05:52 2014 From: dabrus at purdue.edu (Brusnighan, Dean A.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote Real-Time Captioning and Bluetooth Microphones for iPad In-Reply-To: <57e09addf778ef6b8b7a103e12251956@mail.gmail.com> References: <57e09addf778ef6b8b7a103e12251956@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6C34E066F6CB094DAFDDC75802CC64FE3AD0CF00@WPVEXCMBX08.purdue.lcl> Hi, We have used an iPad in the classroom running Skype combined with either a Revolabs wireless lapel microphone or a Revolabs tabletop microphone. We purchased an iPad "camera connection kit" from Apple that allows a USB connection for the microphone base unit. This has worked well for us. Dean ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dean Brusnighan Assistive Technology Specialist Purdue University, Young Hall 155 S. Grant Street West Lafayette, IN 47907-2108 Phone: 765-494-9082 dabrus@purdue.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Cassandra L. Tex Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:29 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Remote Real-Time Captioning and Bluetooth Microphones for iPad Greetings All, Has anyone used iPads for remote real-time captioning? What type of microphone (presumably Bluetooth) did you use? Was it a lapel mic or did the professor actually have to put it on his/her head? I wouldn't think the built-in microphone on an iPad would be sufficient in a classroom setting... In the past we have used laptops with Revolabs wireless lapel microphones for remote real-time captioning. The vendor we contract with for the real-time captioning uses Skype and we've never had a problem with sound quality with our setup (wireless network, laptop with Skype, and revolabs lapel mic). However, we're looking for a more compact way to provide real-time captioning (and perhaps even using the student's own device if available). Hauling a laptop around can be cumbersome... Would love suggestions on Bluetooth microphones that could work. What is the range of a Bluetooth microphone? How far can the person with the microphone be from the device it's paired with? It probably depends on the device, but in general, how far apart can the devices be? Having a CART transcriber in the room is not an option. We are in a rural area and don't have folks in the area with this skill. Thanks! Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University tex@humboldt.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Fri Aug 22 07:28:58 2014 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Saving images for an online math class with iOS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <95D39AE1-6417-417B-8EFB-D798E84C82DF@gmail.com> Hi Elizabeth & all, Here is a possible solution using a second app. jandcpaxon macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2013 your post re: changing file names on the iPhone So I have been struggling with the same issue since December when I bought my iPhone.Today, I figured out that if I import the photos using Lightroom, I can customize the file names. This is saving me a lot of time! According to the iStore, Lightroom mobile app is free but requires the Adobe Lightroom program (full install on a desktop which is NOT free!). Might need more investigation. Am not recommending purchasing, as FREE makes it easier on your school/department and allows more independence for your students. There are other free photo editor apps which are available at the iStore which could do the trick in terms of the students being able to snap a pix, edit in the photo app, then upload. This tricky file naming difficulty ought to be recognized, written up into steps and distributed to faculty so they can include the "how to" in their BB message to students regarding how to submit homework from an iDevice. I'm pretty sure the instructor did not anticipate this snarl. There are any number of free apps for photo editing available for both iOS and androids. Another possible solution is to use a scanning app instead of just snapping a photo with the iPad or iPhone camera. This captures the homework shot as a PDF rather than an IMG file which can then be named appropriately and uploaded. I have found a number of scanning apps (all free) at the iStore and have successfully taken photoscans of documents, saved as . Hope this is helpful. Contact me offline if you need more information. Wink Wink Harner foreigntype@gmail.com > On Aug 22, 2014, at 6:35 AM, "Prickett, Elizabeth" wrote: > > Good morning! > > I?m hoping that someone with more extensive iOS tech tricks has a solution to an online math course dilemma. > > We have an instructor who is teaching a College Algebra course online. Some of our students have little access to computers and/or internet unless it is via a mobile device. The instructor would like to allow students to upload images of their math work to Blackboard. She thought they could do it via a phone or tablet but right now we can only get it to work with Android devices. > > iOS saves all photos as ?image? and Blackboard (understandably!) will only allow you to upload one file with the same file name. I was thinking that a possible solution would be to save the files to something like Google Drive or Dropbox first and change the file name there before uploading to Blackboard. However, we?re trying to do this in as few steps as possible and as simply as possible for students. > > Does anyone know how to adjust the settings in iOS to manipulate file names? > > Thanks so much! > > Liz Prickett > Alternative Media Specialist > Center for Academic & Professional Excellence (CAPE) > Victoria College > 2200 E. Red River Street > Victoria, TX 77901 > Elizabeth.Prickett@VictoriaCollege.edu > (361) 573-3291, ext. 3243 > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Cassandra.Tex at humboldt.edu Fri Aug 22 08:15:06 2014 From: Cassandra.Tex at humboldt.edu (Cassandra L. Tex) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote Real-Time Captioning and Bluetooth Microphones for iPad In-Reply-To: <6C34E066F6CB094DAFDDC75802CC64FE3AD0CF00@WPVEXCMBX08.purdue.lcl> References: <57e09addf778ef6b8b7a103e12251956@mail.gmail.com> <6C34E066F6CB094DAFDDC75802CC64FE3AD0CF00@WPVEXCMBX08.purdue.lcl> Message-ID: <99a150ed699ddbb7c958ba21efe4e541@mail.gmail.com> Hi Dean, I purchased an iPad camera connection kit and tried using a revolabs wireless lapel microphone with the iPad. When I plugged it in, the iPad said that the device could not be used because it used too much power. Do you know the exact model of the revolabs wireless lapel microphone you were using? Our iPad is a couple of years old, but we are up-to-date on the iOS. What model is your iPad? I know the revolabs wireless lapel microphone I was using is several years old...I wonder if that's the difference?? Thanks! Cassandra *From:* Brusnighan, Dean A. [mailto:dabrus@purdue.edu] *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2014 7:06 AM *To:* Cassandra.Tex@humboldt.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network *Subject:* RE: [Athen] Remote Real-Time Captioning and Bluetooth Microphones for iPad Hi, We have used an iPad in the classroom running Skype combined with either a Revolabs wireless lapel microphone or a Revolabs tabletop microphone. We purchased an iPad "camera connection kit" from Apple that allows a USB connection for the microphone base unit. This has worked well for us. Dean ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dean Brusnighan Assistive Technology Specialist Purdue University, Young Hall 155 S. Grant Street West Lafayette, IN 47907-2108 Phone: 765-494-9082 dabrus@purdue.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu ] *On Behalf Of *Cassandra L. Tex *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:29 PM *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network *Subject:* [Athen] Remote Real-Time Captioning and Bluetooth Microphones for iPad Greetings All, Has anyone used iPads for remote real-time captioning? What type of microphone (presumably Bluetooth) did you use? Was it a lapel mic or did the professor actually have to put it on his/her head? I wouldn't think the built-in microphone on an iPad would be sufficient in a classroom setting... In the past we have used laptops with Revolabs wireless lapel microphones for remote real-time captioning. The vendor we contract with for the real-time captioning uses Skype and we've never had a problem with sound quality with our setup (wireless network, laptop with Skype, and revolabs lapel mic). However, we're looking for a more compact way to provide real-time captioning (and perhaps even using the student's own device if available). Hauling a laptop around can be cumbersome... Would love suggestions on Bluetooth microphones that could work. What is the range of a Bluetooth microphone? How far can the person with the microphone be from the device it's paired with? It probably depends on the device, but in general, how far apart can the devices be? Having a CART transcriber in the room is not an option. We are in a rural area and don't have folks in the area with this skill. Thanks! Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University tex@humboldt.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Fri Aug 22 10:23:56 2014 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote Real-Time Captioning and Bluetooth Microphones for iPad In-Reply-To: <99a150ed699ddbb7c958ba21efe4e541@mail.gmail.com> References: <57e09addf778ef6b8b7a103e12251956@mail.gmail.com> <6C34E066F6CB094DAFDDC75802CC64FE3AD0CF00@WPVEXCMBX08.purdue.lcl> <99a150ed699ddbb7c958ba21efe4e541@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: When I was looking into doing that I read that only the 1st generation iPad would power USB devices with the camera kit. The iPad 2 and up no longer had that ability. It would only work if the connected microphone or transmitter had its own power source. I found that on a user forum for the XTAG mic when I was looking into it. Jeff On 8/22/14, Cassandra L. Tex wrote: > Hi Dean, > > I purchased an iPad camera connection kit and tried using a revolabs > wireless lapel microphone with the iPad. When I plugged it in, the iPad > said that the device could not be used because it used too much power. Do > you know the exact model of the revolabs wireless lapel microphone you were > using? Our iPad is a couple of years old, but we are up-to-date on the > iOS. What model is your iPad? > > > > I know the revolabs wireless lapel microphone I was using is several years > old...I wonder if that's the difference?? > > > > Thanks! > > Cassandra > > > > > > *From:* Brusnighan, Dean A. [mailto:dabrus@purdue.edu] > *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2014 7:06 AM > *To:* Cassandra.Tex@humboldt.edu; Access Technology Higher Education > Network > *Subject:* RE: [Athen] Remote Real-Time Captioning and Bluetooth > Microphones for iPad > > > > Hi, > > > > We have used an iPad in the classroom running Skype combined with either a > Revolabs wireless lapel microphone or a Revolabs tabletop microphone. We > purchased an iPad "camera connection kit" from Apple that allows a USB > connection for the microphone base unit. This has worked well for us. > > > > Dean > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Dean Brusnighan > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Purdue University, Young Hall > > 155 S. Grant Street > > West Lafayette, IN 47907-2108 > > Phone: 765-494-9082 > > dabrus@purdue.edu > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu > ] *On Behalf Of *Cassandra > L. Tex > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:29 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* [Athen] Remote Real-Time Captioning and Bluetooth Microphones > for iPad > > > > Greetings All, > > Has anyone used iPads for remote real-time captioning? What type of > microphone (presumably Bluetooth) did you use? Was it a lapel mic or did > the professor actually have to put it on his/her head? I wouldn't think > the built-in microphone on an iPad would be sufficient in a classroom > setting... > > > > In the past we have used laptops with Revolabs wireless lapel microphones > for remote real-time captioning. The vendor we contract with for the > real-time captioning uses Skype and we've never had a problem with sound > quality with our setup (wireless network, laptop with Skype, and revolabs > lapel mic). However, we're looking for a more compact way to provide > real-time captioning (and perhaps even using the student's own device if > available). Hauling a laptop around can be cumbersome... > > > > Would love suggestions on Bluetooth microphones that could work. What is > the range of a Bluetooth microphone? How far can the person with the > microphone be from the device it's paired with? It probably depends on the > device, but in general, how far apart can the devices be? > > > > Having a CART transcriber in the room is not an option. We are in a rural > area and don't have folks in the area with this skill. > > > > Thanks! > > Cassandra Tex > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Humboldt State University > > tex@humboldt.edu > From michele.bromley at pdx.edu Mon Aug 25 10:10:49 2014 From: michele.bromley at pdx.edu (Michele Bromley) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] IOS Applications for Braille Translation Message-ID: Hello all, One of our students is currently looking for an accessible, user-friendly braille translation application for use on their IOS device. The student is currently looking at Braille Writer Pro and Braille Writer Student . Does anyone have any experience with these particular applications or have knowledge of any other applications that might work effectively with VoiceOver? The student would like to know whether Braille Writer Pro and Braille Writer Student work with VoiceOver before purchasing either for extended use. Thank you for any insight or recommendations. *Michele Joy Bromley* Inclusive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Portland State University Office: 116A SMSU Phone: (503) 725-8395 Fax: (503) 725-4103 Email: michele.bromley@pdx.edu Website: www.pdx.edu/drc Facebook: www.facebook.com/pdxdrc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erinlau at umich.edu Mon Aug 25 10:26:36 2014 From: erinlau at umich.edu (Erin Lauridsen) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] IOS Applications for Braille Translation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Michele, These are both Mac aps rather than iOS, just to clarify, what platform is the student using? Thanks, Erin On 8/25/14, Michele Bromley wrote: > Hello all, > > One of our students is currently looking for an accessible, user-friendly > braille translation application for use on their IOS device. The student is > currently looking at Braille Writer Pro > > and Braille > Writer Student > . > Does anyone have any experience with these particular applications or have > knowledge of any other applications that might work effectively with > VoiceOver? > > The student would like to know whether Braille Writer Pro > > and Braille > Writer Student > > work with VoiceOver before purchasing either for extended use. > > Thank you for any insight or recommendations. > > *Michele Joy Bromley* > Inclusive Technology Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > Portland State University > > Office: 116A SMSU > Phone: (503) 725-8395 > Fax: (503) 725-4103 > Email: michele.bromley@pdx.edu > Website: www.pdx.edu/drc > Facebook: www.facebook.com/pdxdrc > -- Erin Lauridsen Screen Reader Specialist University of Michigan erinlau@umich.edu (734) 764-7825 From mthornt at uark.edu Mon Aug 25 10:38:17 2014 From: mthornt at uark.edu (Melanie P. Thornton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blackboard Collaborate Message-ID: Hello, all. I recently had JAWS user try to participate in a webinar hosted on Collaborate and she was unable to access it. Upon further investigation, I realized that I could not access it either. This was on a PC that had previously worked with Collaborate using the same version of JAWS I had used before. I ran to Teresa Haven (as I often do) and she was able to learn that bit agreement between OS, JAWS and Java was necessary (as well as enabling the Java Access Bridge). I was able to set things up to make it work but when I tried using NVDA with the same setup, it did not work. I have not experimented with Window Eyes. This does not meet the standard of accessibility want to meet. I wonder if anyone else has any wisdom to share on this. Has anyone else been in communication with Blackboard about this? Your thoughts are appreciated. Melanie ________________________________ Melanie Thornton Leadership Development Facilitator UA CURRENTS | uacurrents.org 121 Cedar Street, Hot Springs, AR 71901 V/T: 501.291.3217 | F: 501.624.6250 E: mthornton@uacurrents.org [X] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michele.bromley at pdx.edu Mon Aug 25 13:01:19 2014 From: michele.bromley at pdx.edu (Michele Bromley) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] IOS Applications for Braille Translation Message-ID: I should have clarified. The student is interested in either IOS or Mac applications, but finding a Mac application is the priority. These are two Mac applications that the student has found but has not yet purchased or tested with VoiceOver. *Michele Joy Bromley* Inclusive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Portland State University Office: 116A SMSU Phone: (503) 725-8395 Fax: (503) 725-4103 Email: michele.bromley@pdx.edu Website: www.pdx.edu/drc Facebook: www.facebook.com/pdxdrc On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:01 PM, < athen-list-request@mailman13.u.washington.edu> wrote: > Send athen-list mailing list submissions to > athen-list@u.washington.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-list-request@mailman13.u.washington.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-list-owner@mailman13.u.washington.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. IOS Applications for Braille Translation (Michele Bromley) > 2. Re: IOS Applications for Braille Translation (Erin Lauridsen) > 3. Blackboard Collaborate (Melanie P. Thornton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:10:49 -0700 > From: Michele Bromley > To: DSSHE-L@listserv.buffalo.edu, blindmath-request@nfbnet.org, > athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: [Athen] IOS Applications for Braille Translation > Message-ID: > < > CAN55hdw8gATvr_321LWaJSwQE6Uy5wkw_oWDcxrBEMAYWcKuWw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello all, > > One of our students is currently looking for an accessible, user-friendly > braille translation application for use on their IOS device. The student is > currently looking at Braille Writer Pro > > and Braille > Writer Student > >. > Does anyone have any experience with these particular applications or have > knowledge of any other applications that might work effectively with > VoiceOver? > > The student would like to know whether Braille Writer Pro > > and Braille > Writer Student > > work with VoiceOver before purchasing either for extended use. > > Thank you for any insight or recommendations. > > *Michele Joy Bromley* > Inclusive Technology Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > Portland State University > > Office: 116A SMSU > Phone: (503) 725-8395 > Fax: (503) 725-4103 > Email: michele.bromley@pdx.edu > Website: www.pdx.edu/drc > Facebook: www.facebook.com/pdxdrc > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20140825/b84ed720/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:26:36 -0400 > From: Erin Lauridsen > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] IOS Applications for Braille Translation > Message-ID: > p2gtm6Q@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Michele, > These are both Mac aps rather than iOS, just to clarify, what platform > is the student using? > > Thanks, > Erin > > On 8/25/14, Michele Bromley wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > One of our students is currently looking for an accessible, user-friendly > > braille translation application for use on their IOS device. The student > is > > currently looking at Braille Writer Pro > > > > and Braille > > Writer Student > > < > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/braille-writer-student/id560535963?mt=12>. > > Does anyone have any experience with these particular applications or > have > > knowledge of any other applications that might work effectively with > > VoiceOver? > > > > The student would like to know whether Braille Writer Pro > > > > and Braille > > Writer Student > > < > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/braille-writer-student/id560535963?mt=12> > > work with VoiceOver before purchasing either for extended use. > > > > Thank you for any insight or recommendations. > > > > *Michele Joy Bromley* > > Inclusive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resource Center > > Portland State University > > > > Office: 116A SMSU > > Phone: (503) 725-8395 > > Fax: (503) 725-4103 > > Email: michele.bromley@pdx.edu > > Website: www.pdx.edu/drc > > Facebook: www.facebook.com/pdxdrc > > > > > -- > Erin Lauridsen > Screen Reader Specialist > University of Michigan > erinlau@umich.edu > (734) 764-7825 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:38:17 +0000 > From: "Melanie P. Thornton" > To: "athen-list@u.washington.edu" > Subject: [Athen] Blackboard Collaborate > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello, all. > > I recently had JAWS user try to participate in a webinar hosted on > Collaborate and she was unable to access it. Upon further investigation, I > realized that I could not access it either. This was on a PC that had > previously worked with Collaborate using the same version of JAWS I had > used before. > > I ran to Teresa Haven (as I often do) and she was able to learn that bit > agreement between OS, JAWS and Java was necessary (as well as enabling the > Java Access Bridge). I was able to set things up to make it work but when > I tried using NVDA with the same setup, it did not work. I have not > experimented with Window Eyes. > > This does not meet the standard of accessibility want to meet. I wonder > if anyone else has any wisdom to share on this. Has anyone else been in > communication with Blackboard about this? > > Your thoughts are appreciated. > > Melanie > > ________________________________ > > Melanie Thornton > Leadership Development Facilitator > > UA CURRENTS | uacurrents.org > > 121 Cedar Street, Hot Springs, AR 71901 > > V/T: 501.291.3217 | F: 501.624.6250 > > E: mthornton@uacurrents.org > > [X] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20140825/49c41a64/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > ------------------------------ > > End of athen-list Digest, Vol 103, Issue 13 > ******************************************* > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Brad.Held at ucf.edu Tue Aug 26 06:27:51 2014 From: Brad.Held at ucf.edu (Brad Held) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Heidi, We too recently replaced our scanner this summer. The model was a Xerox Documate 3640. The scans were experiencing the same issues; stripes on every page. We did the same cleaning, and roller replacement. In the end, the problem was two small (very hard to see) scratch marks on the scanning glass. We used a magnifier from the AT area to find the scratches. We attempted to buff it out, which different cleaners, with no luck. The cost to replace the glass was half the cost of a new scanner. Since using more publisher relations and Access Text Network, we aren?t scanning at the same volume lately. I would suggest the Canon imageFORMULA DR-6010C Office Document Scanner. It is around 2k, has great features, and very fast. We are happy with our purchase. I hope this helps. Brad Held Assistive Technology Coordinator Student Disability Services University of Central Florida Ferrell Commons 7F, Room 185 Orlando, FL 32816-0161 (407) 823-2371 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:56 AM To: ATHEN listserv Subject: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration Hello all, Our 9080c scanner has started adding some light pink stripes on the scans. Rollers have been replaced, etc, but we still have the stripes - not bad, but enough that OCR can get messy. Unfortunately, the vendor who supports us doesn't have training on the machine. He's thinking that he needs a service utility to do calibration on the machine, but he hasn't been able to find it. (He tried the recommended one from Canon - for the 7580, I believe.) And of course, the semester started yesterday so we have several books needing to be scanned! Anyone have any ideas? Of happen to have the calibration utility?? Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Tue Aug 26 15:42:21 2014 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Full-Time Accommodation Specialist Position, Monterey Peninsula College In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <026601cfc17f$00231420$00693c60$@htctu.net> Subject: Full-Time Accommodation Specialist Position, Monterey Peninsula College Montery Peninsula College is recruiting for an Accommodation Specialist, full-time position. Please forward this information to anyone who might be qualified and interested. The link to the job announcement is below. http://agency.governmentjobs.com/mpc/default.cfm?transfer=1 Thank you. Terria Odom-Wolfer Coordinator, Access Resource Center Monterey Peninsula College From gdietrich at htctu.net Tue Aug 26 15:55:27 2014 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <028a01cfc180$d48feb10$7dafc130$@htctu.net> Are you scanning with Capture Perfect? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Brad Held Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:28 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration Dear Heidi, We too recently replaced our scanner this summer. The model was a Xerox Documate 3640. The scans were experiencing the same issues; stripes on every page. We did the same cleaning, and roller replacement. In the end, the problem was two small (very hard to see) scratch marks on the scanning glass. We used a magnifier from the AT area to find the scratches. We attempted to buff it out, which different cleaners, with no luck. The cost to replace the glass was half the cost of a new scanner. Since using more publisher relations and Access Text Network, we aren?t scanning at the same volume lately. I would suggest the Canon imageFORMULA DR-6010C Office Document Scanner. It is around 2k, has great features, and very fast. We are happy with our purchase. I hope this helps. Brad Held Assistive Technology Coordinator Student Disability Services University of Central Florida Ferrell Commons 7F, Room 185 Orlando, FL 32816-0161 (407) 823-2371 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:56 AM To: ATHEN listserv Subject: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration Hello all, Our 9080c scanner has started adding some light pink stripes on the scans. Rollers have been replaced, etc, but we still have the stripes - not bad, but enough that OCR can get messy. Unfortunately, the vendor who supports us doesn't have training on the machine. He's thinking that he needs a service utility to do calibration on the machine, but he hasn't been able to find it. (He tried the recommended one from Canon - for the 7580, I believe.) And of course, the semester started yesterday so we have several books needing to be scanned! Anyone have any ideas? Of happen to have the calibration utility?? Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Tue Aug 26 17:27:16 2014 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: Job Opportunities- share widely In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <033301cfc18d$a81d8490$f8588db0$@htctu.net> Subject: Job Opportunities- share widely Greetings, Please share these 2 job opportunities widely. SRJC Oak Leaf - HomeSanta Rosa Junior College is recruiting for 2 full-time classified positions! Assistive Technology Specialist The Disability Resources Department of Santa Rosa Junior College is seeking a qualified individual with demonstrated technology skills to join an outstanding team of faculty and staff to provide high quality services to our district, our community, and most importantly to our students. Under general supervision, develops, implements and coordinates a District access technology plan; provides guidelines and technical assistance to staff, faculty and external agencies; serves as a lead worker to other Classified staff. This is a regular and categorically funded full-time Classified position. Generally the work schedule will be Monday through Friday, 8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m., but work schedules may vary, so candidates must have scheduling flexibility to meet the changing needs of the department. Disability Intake Facilitator The Disability Resources Department of Santa Rosa Junior College is seeking a qualified individual with demonstrated intake and customer service skills to join an outstanding team of faculty and staff to provide high quality services to our district, our community, and most importantly to our students. Under general supervision, facilitates the eligibility intake process for students with disabilities. Interacts with and assists students with a wide range of visible and invisible disabilities to determine how their particular condition(s) may meet eligibility for disability support services. Requests, analyzes and evaluates medical reports and disability verifications from heath care professionals and other educational institutions; maintains highly confidential medical and educational records in compliance with FERPA and all other applicable regulations; and performs related work as required. This is a regular, full-time Classified position. Generally the work schedule will be Monday through Friday, 8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m., but work schedules may vary, so candidates must have scheduling flexibility to meet the changing needs of the department. . Apply online today at: http://www.santarosa.edu/hr/current-openings/ . search for 'Assistive Technology Specialist' and 'Disability Intake Facilitator' . Priority application filing deadline for both positions is Friday, September 5th. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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PIAF allows greater flexibility with line weights and fills, and the graphics last far longer. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of John Elmer Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:38 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Question on tactile graphics We've gotten tons of math related PIAF graphics via the CA Comm College System's Alternate Text Production Center, and students have been happy w/them. On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:16 PM, "Linda Petty" wrote: Any feedback on the PIAF Pictures in a Flash Graphic Maker? Or other tactile graphics systems that are particularly good with graphs, line drawings, more of the math/science component, for post-secondary? Thanks Linda Petty, O.T. Reg. (Ont.) 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Econlockhatchee Trail Orlando, FL 32825-6404 P: 407-582-2530 | F: 407-582-8908 On Aug 20, 2014, at 7:17 PM, "Linda Petty" > wrote: Any feedback on the PIAF Pictures in a Flash Graphic Maker? Or other tactile graphics systems that are particularly good with graphs, line drawings, more of the math/science component, for post-secondary? Thanks Linda Petty, O.T. Reg. (Ont.) Assistive Technology Consultant AccessAbility Services a division of Student Affairs UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO SCARBOROUGH Science Wing, Room SW302G 1265 Military Trail, Toronto, Ontario M1C 1A4 Direct Line: 416-208-5144 Tel/TTY (appointments): 416-287-7560 Fax: 416-287-7334 www.utsc.utoronto.ca/ability Tomorrow is created here. This electronic message and all contents contain information that may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended for the addressee(s) only. 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URL: From jkb1200s at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 06:18:47 2014 From: jkb1200s at gmail.com (jkb) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question on tactile graphics In-Reply-To: <03a601cfc197$026771f0$073655d0$@htctu.net> References: <4095CE40-B958-4FA8-BDFD-77E33856DA41@vcccd.edu> <03a601cfc197$026771f0$073655d0$@htctu.net> Message-ID: <182EC955-B09F-4AF4-A247-A961AC997494@gmail.com> After those before me had some inconsistent and unprofessional-looking results with foil and some other techniques, I learned from Gaeir how to use PIAF with Illustrator. The paper is expensive so you have to get your technique down but the results are fantastic. I once had someone at an AT conference produce some TG (tactile graphics) for me with a fancy embosser and when I showed the students they preferred the TG I produced with PIAF. Illustrator is a robust, complex program so if you're not a graphic artist there will be a learning curve. If you have many other responsibilities like I did and can't spend all your time in production, you can try to find a student in the graphics program to at least create some templates for you but students who are adept with Illustrator will still need a great deal of guidance regarding what should be produced as a TG and what should be omitted. You'll use textures to delineate the different elements of the graphic and there are only so many textures that feel different enough. Too much tactile graphic is confusing for students and some can't make heads or tails out of an overly complex TG. Determining what to include and what to omit may require a meeting with the instructor - I loved involving faculty in alt format production anyway and developed some great relationships that way. Like much of alt format production, TG is an art, not a science. I added the Braille with Duxbury. Worked out great, thanks Gaeir, for PIAF and so much more. Julie K Balassa Sent from my iPad > On Aug 26, 2014, at 9:34 PM, "Gaeir Dietrich" wrote: > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of John Elmer > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:38 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Question on tactile graphics > > On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:16 PM, "Linda Petty" wrote: > > > Any feedback on the PIAF Pictures in a Flash Graphic Maker? > > Or other tactile graphics systems that are particularly good with graphs, line drawings, more of the math/science component, for post-secondary? > > > > Thanks > > > > Linda Petty, O.T. Reg. (Ont.) > Assistive Technology Consultant > AccessAbility Services > > a division of Student Affairs > > > UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO SCARBOROUGH > Science Wing, Room SW302G > > 1265 Military Trail, Toronto, Ontario M1C 1A4 > Direct Line: 416-208-5144 > > Tel/TTY (appointments): 416-287-7560 > > Fax: 416-287-7334 > www.utsc.utoronto.ca/ability -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ats169 at psu.edu Wed Aug 27 07:10:24 2014 From: ats169 at psu.edu (Alexa Schriempf) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question on tactile graphics In-Reply-To: <03a601cfc197$026771f0$073655d0$@htctu.net> References: <4095CE40-B958-4FA8-BDFD-77E33856DA41@vcccd.edu> <03a601cfc197$026771f0$073655d0$@htctu.net> Message-ID: What about ATC's Swell Graphics II? On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Gaeir Dietrich wrote: > I like PIAF much better than TIE (which is the only comparable product I > am aware of). PIAF allows greater flexibility with line weights and fills, > and the graphics last far longer. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *John Elmer > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:38 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Question on tactile graphics > > > > We've gotten tons of math related PIAF graphics via the CA Comm College > System's Alternate Text Production Center, and students have been happy > w/them. > > > On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:16 PM, "Linda Petty" > wrote: > > Any feedback on the PIAF Pictures in a Flash Graphic Maker?Or other > tactile graphics systems that are particularly good with graphs, line > drawings, more of the math/science component, for post-secondary? Thanks > > > > > *Linda Petty, O.T. Reg. (Ont.) *Assistive Technology Consultant > Access*Ability* Services > > a division of Student Affairs > > > > *UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO SCARBOROUGH*Science Wing, Room SW302G > > 1265 Military Trail, Toronto, Ontario M1C 1A4 > Direct Line: 416-208-5144 > > Tel/TTY (appointments): 416-287-7560 > > Fax: 416-287-7334 > www.utsc.utoronto.ca/ability > > > *Tomorrow is created here.* > > This electronic message and all contents contain information that may be > privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The > information is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not an > addressee, any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of > this message is prohibited. 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URL: From jkb1200s at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 17:39:31 2014 From: jkb1200s at gmail.com (jkb) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] Question on tactile graphics Message-ID: After those before me had some inconsistent and unprofessional-looking results with foil and some other techniques, I learned from Gaeir how to use PIAF with Illustrator. The paper is expensive so you have to get your technique down but the results are fantastic. I once had someone at an AT conference produce some TG (tactile graphics) for me with a fancy embosser and when I showed the students they preferred the TG I produced with PIAF. Illustrator is a robust, complex program so if you're not a graphic artist there will be a learning curve. If you have many other responsibilities like I did and can't spend all your time in production, you can try to find a student in the graphics program to at least create some templates for you but students who are adept with Illustrator will still need a great deal of guidance regarding what should be produced as a TG and what should be omitted. You'll use textures to delineate the different elements of the graphic and there are only so many textures that feel different enough. Too much tactile graphic is confusing for students and some can't make heads or tails out of an overly complex TG. Determining what to include and what to omit may require a meeting with the instructor - I loved involving faculty in alt format production anyway and developed some great relationships that way. Like much of alt format production, TG is an art, not a science. I added the Braille with Duxbury. Worked out great, thanks Gaeir, for PIAF and so much more. Julie K Balassa Sent from my iPad > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of John Elmer > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:38 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Question on tactile graphics > > On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:16 PM, "Linda Petty" wrote: > > > Any feedback on the PIAF Pictures in a Flash Graphic Maker? > > Or other tactile graphics systems that are particularly good with graphs, line drawings, more of the math/science component, for post-secondary? > > > > Thanks > > > > Linda Petty, O.T. Reg. (Ont.) > Assistive Technology Consultant > AccessAbility Services > > a division of Student Affairs > > > UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO SCARBOROUGH > Science Wing, Room SW302G > > 1265 Military Trail, Toronto, Ontario M1C 1A4 > Direct Line: 416-208-5144 > > Tel/TTY (appointments): 416-287-7560 > > Fax: 416-287-7334 > www.utsc.utoronto.ca/ability -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Thu Aug 28 07:55:30 2014 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration In-Reply-To: <028a01cfc180$d48feb10$7dafc130$@htctu.net> References: <028a01cfc180$d48feb10$7dafc130$@htctu.net> Message-ID: Yes, ma'am, Gaeir! We love Capture Perfect!!! We're hoping we don't have to replace this wonderful ol' work horse scanner. Even the tech said it's in wonderful condition for it's age. Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Gaeir Dietrich wrote: > Are you scanning with Capture Perfect? > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Brad Held > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:28 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration > > > > Dear Heidi, > > We too recently replaced our scanner this summer. The model was a Xerox > Documate 3640. The scans were experiencing the same issues; stripes on > every page. We did the same cleaning, and roller replacement. In the end, > the problem was two small (very hard to see) scratch marks on the scanning > glass. We used a magnifier from the AT area to find the scratches. We > attempted to buff it out, which different cleaners, with no luck. The cost > to replace the glass was half the cost of a new scanner. > > > > Since using more publisher relations and Access Text Network, we aren?t > scanning at the same volume lately. I would suggest the Canon imageFORMULA > DR-6010C Office Document Scanner. It is around 2k, has great features, and > very fast. We are happy with our purchase. > > > > I hope this helps. > > Brad Held > > Assistive Technology Coordinator > > Student Disability Services > > University of Central Florida > Ferrell Commons 7F, Room 185 > > Orlando, FL 32816-0161 > (407) 823-2371 > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu > ] *On Behalf Of *Heidi > Scher > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:56 AM > *To:* ATHEN listserv > *Subject:* [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration > > > > Hello all, > > Our 9080c scanner has started adding some light pink stripes on the scans. > Rollers have been replaced, etc, but we still have the stripes - not bad, > but enough that OCR can get messy. Unfortunately, the vendor who supports > us doesn't have training on the machine. He's thinking that he needs a > service utility to do calibration on the machine, but he hasn't been able > to find it. (He tried the recommended one from Canon - for the 7580, I > believe.) > > And of course, the semester started yesterday so we have several books > needing to be scanned! > > Anyone have any ideas? Of happen to have the calibration utility?? > > Heidi > > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dabrus at purdue.edu Thu Aug 28 08:02:31 2014 From: dabrus at purdue.edu (Brusnighan, Dean A.) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] Remote Real-Time Captioning and Bluetooth Microphones for iPad In-Reply-To: <99a150ed699ddbb7c958ba21efe4e541@mail.gmail.com> References: <57e09addf778ef6b8b7a103e12251956@mail.gmail.com> <6C34E066F6CB094DAFDDC75802CC64FE3AD0CF00@WPVEXCMBX08.purdue.lcl> <99a150ed699ddbb7c958ba21efe4e541@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6C34E066F6CB094DAFDDC75802CC64FE3AD13BDB@WPVEXCMBX08.purdue.lcl> Hi Cassandra, We have used an iPad 3 (model A1416). I believe the Revolabs Solo desktop microphone is model 02-DSKSYS. That Revolabs model uses a base that plugs into the wall for a power source instead of using the USB port. That's probably the difference between our setups. It's not the age because our iPad and microphones are also a couple years old. Dean From: Cassandra L. Tex [mailto:Cassandra.Tex@humboldt.edu] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 11:15 AM To: Brusnighan, Dean A.; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] Remote Real-Time Captioning and Bluetooth Microphones for iPad Hi Dean, I purchased an iPad camera connection kit and tried using a revolabs wireless lapel microphone with the iPad. When I plugged it in, the iPad said that the device could not be used because it used too much power. Do you know the exact model of the revolabs wireless lapel microphone you were using? Our iPad is a couple of years old, but we are up-to-date on the iOS. What model is your iPad? I know the revolabs wireless lapel microphone I was using is several years old...I wonder if that's the difference?? Thanks! Cassandra From: Brusnighan, Dean A. [mailto:dabrus@purdue.edu] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 7:06 AM To: Cassandra.Tex@humboldt.edu; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] Remote Real-Time Captioning and Bluetooth Microphones for iPad Hi, We have used an iPad in the classroom running Skype combined with either a Revolabs wireless lapel microphone or a Revolabs tabletop microphone. We purchased an iPad "camera connection kit" from Apple that allows a USB connection for the microphone base unit. This has worked well for us. Dean ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dean Brusnighan Assistive Technology Specialist Purdue University, Young Hall 155 S. Grant Street West Lafayette, IN 47907-2108 Phone: 765-494-9082 dabrus@purdue.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Cassandra L. Tex Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:29 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Remote Real-Time Captioning and Bluetooth Microphones for iPad Greetings All, Has anyone used iPads for remote real-time captioning? What type of microphone (presumably Bluetooth) did you use? Was it a lapel mic or did the professor actually have to put it on his/her head? I wouldn't think the built-in microphone on an iPad would be sufficient in a classroom setting... In the past we have used laptops with Revolabs wireless lapel microphones for remote real-time captioning. The vendor we contract with for the real-time captioning uses Skype and we've never had a problem with sound quality with our setup (wireless network, laptop with Skype, and revolabs lapel mic). However, we're looking for a more compact way to provide real-time captioning (and perhaps even using the student's own device if available). Hauling a laptop around can be cumbersome... Would love suggestions on Bluetooth microphones that could work. What is the range of a Bluetooth microphone? How far can the person with the microphone be from the device it's paired with? It probably depends on the device, but in general, how far apart can the devices be? Having a CART transcriber in the room is not an option. We are in a rural area and don't have folks in the area with this skill. Thanks! Cassandra Tex Assistive Technology Specialist Humboldt State University tex@humboldt.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blrichwine at gmail.com Thu Aug 28 08:23:29 2014 From: blrichwine at gmail.com (Brian Richwine) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration In-Reply-To: References: <028a01cfc180$d48feb10$7dafc130$@htctu.net> Message-ID: Hello, We've been using a Canon DR-4010C for sometime now. Except for the rare over-sized book, it has been serving us well and works with CapturePerfect, ABBY Finereader Pro, and Kurzweil 3000 just fine. Sincerely, Brian Richwine Manager, UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University ? Bloomington / Indianapolis http://iuadapts.iu.edu (812) 856-2757 [Direct Line] (812) 856-4112 [Office Number] brichwin@iu.edu On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Heidi Scher wrote: > Yes, ma'am, Gaeir! We love Capture Perfect!!! We're hoping we don't have > to replace this wonderful ol' work horse scanner. Even the tech said it's > in wonderful condition for it's age. > > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Gaeir Dietrich > wrote: > >> Are you scanning with Capture Perfect? >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >> Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich >> 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] >> *On Behalf Of *Brad Held >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:28 AM >> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network >> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration >> >> >> >> Dear Heidi, >> >> We too recently replaced our scanner this summer. The model was a Xerox >> Documate 3640. The scans were experiencing the same issues; stripes on >> every page. We did the same cleaning, and roller replacement. In the end, >> the problem was two small (very hard to see) scratch marks on the scanning >> glass. We used a magnifier from the AT area to find the scratches. We >> attempted to buff it out, which different cleaners, with no luck. The cost >> to replace the glass was half the cost of a new scanner. >> >> >> >> Since using more publisher relations and Access Text Network, we aren?t >> scanning at the same volume lately. I would suggest the Canon imageFORMULA >> DR-6010C Office Document Scanner. It is around 2k, has great features, and >> very fast. We are happy with our purchase. >> >> >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Brad Held >> >> Assistive Technology Coordinator >> >> Student Disability Services >> >> University of Central Florida >> Ferrell Commons 7F, Room 185 >> >> Orlando, FL 32816-0161 >> (407) 823-2371 >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> ] *On Behalf Of *Heidi >> Scher >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:56 AM >> *To:* ATHEN listserv >> *Subject:* [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration >> >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> Our 9080c scanner has started adding some light pink stripes on the >> scans. Rollers have been replaced, etc, but we still have the stripes - not >> bad, but enough that OCR can get messy. Unfortunately, the vendor who >> supports us doesn't have training on the machine. He's thinking that he >> needs a service utility to do calibration on the machine, but he hasn't >> been able to find it. (He tried the recommended one from Canon - for the >> 7580, I believe.) >> >> And of course, the semester started yesterday so we have several books >> needing to be scanned! >> >> Anyone have any ideas? Of happen to have the calibration utility?? >> >> Heidi >> >> >> +++++++++++++++ >> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC >> Associate Director >> Center for Educational Access >> University of Arkansas >> ARKU 104 >> Fayetteville, AR 72701 >> 479.575.3104 >> 479.575.7445 fax >> 479.575.3646 tdd >> +++++++++++++++ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(He tried the recommended one from Canon - for the 7580, I > believe.) > > And of course, the semester started yesterday so we have several books > needing to be scanned! > > Anyone have any ideas? Of happen to have the calibration utility?? > > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JElmer at vcccd.edu Thu Aug 28 09:10:14 2014 From: JElmer at vcccd.edu (John Elmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: When we get stripes it is usually from some glue stuck on the glass ?lenses?. Comes off easily with acetone or rubbing alcohol. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 8:42 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration It is most likely related to the file compression settings. Set your compression levels to none and that may fix the problem. If that does not work it may have a bulb going out. On Aug 26, 2014 8:00 AM, "Heidi Scher" > wrote: Hello all, Our 9080c scanner has started adding some light pink stripes on the scans. Rollers have been replaced, etc, but we still have the stripes - not bad, but enough that OCR can get messy. Unfortunately, the vendor who supports us doesn't have training on the machine. He's thinking that he needs a service utility to do calibration on the machine, but he hasn't been able to find it. (He tried the recommended one from Canon - for the 7580, I believe.) And of course, the semester started yesterday so we have several books needing to be scanned! Anyone have any ideas? Of happen to have the calibration utility?? Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Thu Aug 28 09:14:14 2014 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks everyone for the suggestions. We'll check the compression level. Not sure why all of a sudden that would be an issue when scans were clear before. We've replaced rollers and had everything thoroughly cleaned for any glue bits, paper bits, etc. The tech person was able to do that. Didn't think about the bulb possibly going out. We'll check compression and then bulb if necessary. Any other suggestions are still welcome!!! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:10 AM, John Elmer wrote: > When we get stripes it is usually from some glue stuck on the glass > ?lenses?. Comes off easily with acetone or rubbing alcohol. > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Ron > *Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2014 8:42 AM > > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration > > > > It is most likely related to the file compression settings. Set your > compression levels to none and that may fix the problem. If that does not > work it may have a bulb going out. > > On Aug 26, 2014 8:00 AM, "Heidi Scher" wrote: > > Hello all, > > Our 9080c scanner has started adding some light pink stripes on the scans. > Rollers have been replaced, etc, but we still have the stripes - not bad, > but enough that OCR can get messy. Unfortunately, the vendor who supports > us doesn't have training on the machine. He's thinking that he needs a > service utility to do calibration on the machine, but he hasn't been able > to find it. (He tried the recommended one from Canon - for the 7580, I > believe.) > > And of course, the semester started yesterday so we have several books > needing to be scanned! > > Anyone have any ideas? Of happen to have the calibration utility?? > > Heidi > > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at nau.edu Thu Aug 28 09:17:04 2014 From: Teresa.Haven at nau.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FDA59D66@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Pencil eraser leavings, bits of white-out, even tiny bits of paper can also get stuck to the scanner glass and cause the stripes. Cleaning the glass and blowing out the system with canned air are always my first steps when stripes appear. Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst Northern Arizona University From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of John Elmer Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:10 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration When we get stripes it is usually from some glue stuck on the glass ?lenses?. Comes off easily with acetone or rubbing alcohol. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 8:42 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration It is most likely related to the file compression settings. Set your compression levels to none and that may fix the problem. If that does not work it may have a bulb going out. On Aug 26, 2014 8:00 AM, "Heidi Scher" > wrote: Hello all, Our 9080c scanner has started adding some light pink stripes on the scans. Rollers have been replaced, etc, but we still have the stripes - not bad, but enough that OCR can get messy. Unfortunately, the vendor who supports us doesn't have training on the machine. He's thinking that he needs a service utility to do calibration on the machine, but he hasn't been able to find it. (He tried the recommended one from Canon - for the 7580, I believe.) And of course, the semester started yesterday so we have several books needing to be scanned! Anyone have any ideas? Of happen to have the calibration utility?? Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at nau.edu Thu Aug 28 09:30:11 2014 From: Teresa.Haven at nau.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration In-Reply-To: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FDA59D66@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> References: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FDA59D66@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Message-ID: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FDA59E2F@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Sorry, Heidi ? my message was sent to the list before you said the scanner had already been cleaned, but posted afterwards. Here?s hoping you find a good solution soon, Teresa From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:17 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration Pencil eraser leavings, bits of white-out, even tiny bits of paper can also get stuck to the scanner glass and cause the stripes. Cleaning the glass and blowing out the system with canned air are always my first steps when stripes appear. Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst Northern Arizona University From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of John Elmer Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:10 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration When we get stripes it is usually from some glue stuck on the glass ?lenses?. Comes off easily with acetone or rubbing alcohol. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 8:42 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Canon 9080c calibration It is most likely related to the file compression settings. Set your compression levels to none and that may fix the problem. If that does not work it may have a bulb going out. On Aug 26, 2014 8:00 AM, "Heidi Scher" > wrote: Hello all, Our 9080c scanner has started adding some light pink stripes on the scans. Rollers have been replaced, etc, but we still have the stripes - not bad, but enough that OCR can get messy. Unfortunately, the vendor who supports us doesn't have training on the machine. He's thinking that he needs a service utility to do calibration on the machine, but he hasn't been able to find it. (He tried the recommended one from Canon - for the 7580, I believe.) And of course, the semester started yesterday so we have several books needing to be scanned! Anyone have any ideas? Of happen to have the calibration utility?? Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: