From ccuevas14 at valenciacollege.edu Tue Sep 2 07:08:23 2014 From: ccuevas14 at valenciacollege.edu (Chris Cuevas) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] OCR Freeware Message-ID: <89FDA3F5D1027E4386D9C585C2A76566694D9F02@EX2010-MB02.local.valenciacc.edu> Good morning fellow ATHENites, Does anyone have any recommendations for OCR freeware that I can pass along to some faculty that would like to make accessible documents for their students? Kindest regards, Christopher J. Cuevas Assistive Technology Specialist Valencia College | Office for Students with Disabilities Mail Code: 3-31 701 N Econlockhatchee Trail Orlando, FL 32825-6404 P: 407-582-2530 | F: 407-582-8908 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Brad.Held at ucf.edu Tue Sep 2 07:16:57 2014 From: Brad.Held at ucf.edu (Brad Held) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] OCR Freeware In-Reply-To: <89FDA3F5D1027E4386D9C585C2A76566694D9F02@EX2010-MB02.local.valenciacc.edu> References: <89FDA3F5D1027E4386D9C585C2A76566694D9F02@EX2010-MB02.local.valenciacc.edu> Message-ID: Dear Chris, I know that it isn't free, but most universities has copies available to staff. Adobe Acrobat Professional has features to do a decent job of OCR. Maybe your faculty can get a university owned copy of the software. Just a suggestion. Thanks Brad Held Assistive Technology Coordinator Student Disability Services University of Central Florida Ferrell Commons 7F, Room 185 Orlando, FL 32816-0161 (407) 823-2371 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Cuevas Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 10:08 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] OCR Freeware Good morning fellow ATHENites, Does anyone have any recommendations for OCR freeware that I can pass along to some faculty that would like to make accessible documents for their students? Kindest regards, Christopher J. Cuevas Assistive Technology Specialist Valencia College | Office for Students with Disabilities Mail Code: 3-31 701 N Econlockhatchee Trail Orlando, FL 32825-6404 P: 407-582-2530 | F: 407-582-8908 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Tue Sep 2 07:22:11 2014 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] OCR Freeware In-Reply-To: <89FDA3F5D1027E4386D9C585C2A76566694D9F02@EX2010-MB02.local.valenciacc.edu> References: <89FDA3F5D1027E4386D9C585C2A76566694D9F02@EX2010-MB02.local.valenciacc.edu> Message-ID: <000501cfc6b9$49986fd0$dcc94f70$@karlencommunications.com> If you have Microsoft OneNote, you can scan directly into a OneNote page and make the text searchable then copy and paste it wherever you want. You can also insert a PDF document into a OneNote page and make the text searchable. If you are using Office 2007, it includes the MODI or Microsoft Document Imaging software which is a light version of OmniPage. As of Office 2010 the MODI has been fully integrated into OneNote. I have a how to booklet on the Karlen website about this tool. http://karlencommunications.com/MicrosoftOfficeAccessibility.html It is called "using the Microsoft Office Document Imaging tool." Keep in mind it is free.so while it is generally usable, it is not always respectful of layout. I use the inexpensive ABBYY PDF Transformer, which has a cool name, but lets me use keyboard commands to open documents and then convert them to Word documents. I've been using this tool for about 4 years now and find it quite reliable in the OCR. http://pdftransformer.abbyy.com/ Cheers, Karen From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Cuevas Sent: September 2, 2014 10:08 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] OCR Freeware Good morning fellow ATHENites, Does anyone have any recommendations for OCR freeware that I can pass along to some faculty that would like to make accessible documents for their students? Kindest regards, Christopher J. 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ICEAPVI-2015 will be held in Athens, Greece, between February 12-14, 2015. We invite researchers working in the domains for Persons with Visual Impairment to submit papers for oral presentation or posters in the areas of: * access to the learning, * access to the interpersonal communication, * access to the printed information, * access to the electronic information and the WWW content, * access to the recreation and leisure and * access to the built environment. Deadline for submissions: September 15, 2014 ICEAPVI-2015 is co-organized by the National and Kapodistrian University of Athens (Speech and Accessibility Laboratory, Department of Informatics and Telecommunications) and the International Council for Education and Rehabilitation of People with Visual Impairment- Europe (ICEVI-Europe). 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More about Paul Grossman and his keynote topic Highlights from this year?s event: (titles link to session description) - Creating More Accessible Documents Using Word 2013 , Karen McCall, Head of Quality Control and Training, Accessibil-IT - Accessible Instructional Materials Program Design and Management , Ron Stewart, Alt Format Solutions, Teresa Haven, Northern Arizona University - 360 Degrees: Approaching Accessibility in Math from All Sides , Wink Harner, Southern Oregon University, Marshall Sunnes, Stanford, et al - Post Production Captioning: Choosing the Right Software for your Institution , Cindy Camp, Pepnet. 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URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Wed Sep 3 09:46:06 2014 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CC071CF-77ED-4B60-9168-4ECF588370A2@stanford.edu> Hi Heidi, As part of our automated document conversion system (SCRIBE), we do support text-only DAISY conversions from MS Word documents. That said, we do not have a lot of people using that conversion as there is not much of an appetite for DAISY content. When you are doing the conversion from MS Word, what is your process? Are you able to use the DAISY XML option from the Save As DAISY menu? What is the error that you are getting upon conversion? Also, be careful of which version of the Save As DAISY plugin you are using. There are different versions for 32-bit vs. 64-bit (and Office 2010 vs. Office 2013). Take care, Sean On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Heidi Scher wrote: > Hi all, > > This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any luck getting that to work. > > Anyone have any ideas?? > > Thanks in advance!! > > Heidi > > > > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From lisa.brandt1 at pcc.edu Wed Sep 3 10:20:30 2014 From: lisa.brandt1 at pcc.edu (Lisa Brandt) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] OCR Freeware In-Reply-To: <89FDA3F5D1027E4386D9C585C2A76566694D9F02@EX2010-MB02.local.valenciacc.edu> References: <89FDA3F5D1027E4386D9C585C2A76566694D9F02@EX2010-MB02.local.valenciacc.edu> Message-ID: Google Drive does OCR: https://support.google.com/drive/answer/176692?hl=en Lisa -- Lisa Brandt, PCC Disability Services Accessibility Technician Alternate Media Formats Technician 971-722-4366 SY CC 260 On 2 Sep 2014, at 7:08, Chris Cuevas wrote: > Good morning fellow ATHENites, > > Does anyone have any recommendations for OCR freeware that I can pass along to some faculty that would like to make accessible documents for their students? > > Kindest regards, > > Christopher J. Cuevas > > Assistive Technology Specialist > Valencia College | Office for Students with Disabilities > Mail Code: 3-31 > 701 N Econlockhatchee Trail > Orlando, FL 32825-6404 > P: 407-582-2530 | F: 407-582-8908 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nsorensen at naropa.edu Wed Sep 3 12:18:47 2014 From: nsorensen at naropa.edu (Neal Sorensen) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Message-ID: <0EDA783F28EBCB4DA136913FECFCDF21ED72DA@DC-NAROPAEX10.naropa.edu> Hello Heidi, Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here's a quick how-to... 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted folder. 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet browser (I recommend Firefox) 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word processor. 4. Breathe easy XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I don't think that is included in the Bookshare XML. I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn't run successfully for me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those students. Hope this helps! Neal Sorensen Specialist of Assistive Technology Office of Disability Resources Naropa University: Boulder, CO nsorensen@naropa.edu Phone: 303-546-3560 The Machine is Us/ing Us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world..." Hi all, This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any luck getting that to work. Anyone have any ideas?? Thanks in advance!! Heidi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 12:21:55 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion In-Reply-To: <0EDA783F28EBCB4DA136913FECFCDF21ED72DA@DC-NAROPAEX10.naropa.edu> References: <0EDA783F28EBCB4DA136913FECFCDF21ED72DA@DC-NAROPAEX10.naropa.edu> Message-ID: What a great idea, if they have the book. This is also what Sean was getting at with save as XML with the SADX plugin. Ron Stewart On Wednesday, September 3, 2014, Neal Sorensen wrote: > Hello Heidi, > > > > Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a > quick how-to? > > > > 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted > folder. > > 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet > browser (I recommend Firefox) > > 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word > processor. > > 4. Breathe easy > > > > XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text > formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I > don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. > > > > I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility > issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for > me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for > working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those > students. > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > Neal Sorensen > > Specialist of Assistive Technology > > Office of Disability Resources > > Naropa University: Boulder, CO > > nsorensen@naropa.edu > > > Phone: 303-546-3560 > > > > The Machine is Us/ing Us: > > The Machine is Us/ing Us (Final Version) > > > "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY > so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out > there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare > and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. 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Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet browser (I recommend Firefox) 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word processor. 4. Breathe easy XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I don't think that is included in the Bookshare XML. I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn't run successfully for me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those students. Hope this helps! Neal Sorensen Specialist of Assistive Technology Office of Disability Resources Naropa University: Boulder, CO nsorensen@naropa.edu Phone: 303-546-3560 The Machine is Us/ing Us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world." Hi all, This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any luck getting that to work. Anyone have any ideas?? Thanks in advance!! Heidi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Wed Sep 3 12:48:02 2014 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion In-Reply-To: <02ed01cfc7ad$608df760$21a9e620$@htctu.net> References: <0EDA783F28EBCB4DA136913FECFCDF21ED72DA@DC-NAROPAEX10.naropa.edu> <02ed01cfc7ad$608df760$21a9e620$@htctu.net> Message-ID: <11e901cfc7af$f8d8b670$ea8a2350$@ahead.org> That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no longer supporting it as far as I am aware. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion You can also use Tech Adapt's free TAMC program: http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Sorensen Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Hello Heidi, Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here's a quick how-to. 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted folder. 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet browser (I recommend Firefox) 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word processor. 4. Breathe easy XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I don't think that is included in the Bookshare XML. I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn't run successfully for me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those students. Hope this helps! Neal Sorensen Specialist of Assistive Technology Office of Disability Resources Naropa University: Boulder, CO nsorensen@naropa.edu Phone: 303-546-3560 The Machine is Us/ing Us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world." Hi all, This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any luck getting that to work. Anyone have any ideas?? Thanks in advance!! Heidi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 13:41:33 2014 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] OCR Freeware In-Reply-To: References: <89FDA3F5D1027E4386D9C585C2A76566694D9F02@EX2010-MB02.local.valenciacc.edu> Message-ID: <033d01cfc7b7$73fdcff0$5bf96fd0$@gmail.com> Hi all, I have had mixed outcomes and incomplete file conversions with G-drive. Would love to hear from others who have successfully converted (medium size) from PDF to OCR recognized text. Thanks, Wink Harner winkharner1113@gmail.com foreigntype@gmail.com (Disclaimer: this email was dictated with Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive any quirks, mis-recognitions, or omissions.) From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Lisa Brandt Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 10:21 AM To: ATHEN Mailing List Subject: Re: [Athen] OCR Freeware Google Drive does OCR: https://support.google.com/drive/answer/176692?hl=en Lisa -- Lisa Brandt, PCC Disability Services Accessibility Technician Alternate Media Formats Technician 971-722-4366 SY CC 260 On 2 Sep 2014, at 7:08, Chris Cuevas wrote: Good morning fellow ATHENites, Does anyone have any recommendations for OCR freeware that I can pass along to some faculty that would like to make accessible documents for their students? Kindest regards, Christopher J. Cuevas Assistive Technology Specialist Valencia College | Office for Students with Disabilities Mail Code: 3-31 701 N Econlockhatchee Trail Orlando, FL 32825-6404 P: 407-582-2530 | F: 407-582-8908 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 14:34:12 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: Call for Reading System Accessibility Testing Moderators In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Some may be interested in this, or perhaps you have some folks you know who may be. Ron Stewart ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *George Kerscher* Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 Subject: Call for Reading System Accessibility Testing Moderators To: DAISY in Higher Education , Transition to Accessible EPUB , diagram advisors , DAISY Technical Developments < technical-developments@daisy.org> Cc: DAISY Staff , DAISY Board < daisy-board@daisy.org> DearDAISY Community, We are starting to roll out our crowd sourcing approach for the testing of reading systems. Please forward the announcement below to those you feel would be qualified and interested. We will be distributing this more broadly as time goes on. Feel free to contact me with any questions or to volunteer. Best George Email: Kerscher@montana.com *** Qualified, enthusiastic testers are needed to make sure all reading systems used for presentation of digital publishing of books, journals, magazines, coursework, and all other types of digital publications are fully accessible to persons with disabilities. Visit: http://www.epubtest.org to review the work being done by the International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF), the Book Industry Study Group (BISG), and the DAISY Consortium. The column titled ?accessibility? is the focus of this call for moderators. A moderator will be identified for each reading system on a specific platform (OS) and that moderator will help other volunteer evaluators to test and report findings using the Assistive Technology (AT) at their disposal. Individuals should be independent, have accessibility experience including familiarity and knowledge of assistive technology and should understand the Daisy Reading System standards http://www.daisy.org/accessibility-screening-methodology-guidelines-and-checklist.html This will be a demanding volunteer job that requires doing 1-2 tests first and then supervising the completion of several tests per week. Initial responsibilities include recruiting evaluators, coordinating credentials and evaluating the evaluators, monitoring progress and being willing to verify results. Example: Reading system HappyReader (fictional name) running on Windows 7 will have a moderator that manages volunteers to test Happy reader with the wide range of AT used on Windows 7. The screen reader JFW using TTS as output would be one evaluation performed; another volunteer evaluator would test HappyReader with NVDA using braille output; another tester would use screen magnification ZoomText and report the results, etc. Because of the wide range of AT used by persons with disabilities, a crowd source approach is going to be used. We encourage organizations to sponsor the testing by having people assigned to specific reading systems and technology, e.g. a university using specific AT and specific reading systems should assign people to work on the testing and share their findings with the world. Qualifications of moderators - Independent, self-motivated person - Experience with testing of the accessibility of software, websites, or reading systems. - Good knowledge of assistive technology Duties of Moderators -Identify documentation for Reading Systems, e.g. user manual, getting started, use with Assistive Technology (AT), - Verify the qualification of evaluators - Approve or assign the reading system configuration to the evaluators. - Get the test forms completed by evaluators - Facilitate the crowd sourcing for recruiting evaluators - Coordinate with Reading system developer - Review and approve the test results submitted by the evaluator - Resolve the conflicts if the same reading system configuration yield different results when tested by different evaluators. George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Secretary General, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Officer, Accessible Technology Learning Ally Together It?s Possible http://www.LearningAlly.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com --- The BEST Way to Read and Publish: http://www.daisy.org/get-involved -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdietrich at htctu.net Wed Sep 3 15:08:18 2014 From: gdietrich at htctu.net (Gaeir Dietrich) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] OCR Freeware In-Reply-To: <033d01cfc7b7$73fdcff0$5bf96fd0$@gmail.com> References: <89FDA3F5D1027E4386D9C585C2A76566694D9F02@EX2010-MB02.local.valenciacc.edu> <033d01cfc7b7$73fdcff0$5bf96fd0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <04b601cfc7c3$921eb5b0$b65c2110$@htctu.net> Remember, too, if you have Adobe Acrobat Pro, it has built-in OCR capability. Pro is not free, but if you already have it then the OCR part is basically free. I really do like MODI, as others have said. It works great, and it is still free with MS Office-just very hard to find!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 1:42 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] OCR Freeware Hi all, I have had mixed outcomes and incomplete file conversions with G-drive. Would love to hear from others who have successfully converted (medium size) from PDF to OCR recognized text. Thanks, Wink Harner winkharner1113@gmail.com foreigntype@gmail.com (Disclaimer: this email was dictated with Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive any quirks, mis-recognitions, or omissions.) From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Lisa Brandt Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 10:21 AM To: ATHEN Mailing List Subject: Re: [Athen] OCR Freeware Google Drive does OCR: https://support.google.com/drive/answer/176692?hl=en Lisa -- Lisa Brandt, PCC Disability Services Accessibility Technician Alternate Media Formats Technician 971-722-4366 SY CC 260 On 2 Sep 2014, at 7:08, Chris Cuevas wrote: Good morning fellow ATHENites, Does anyone have any recommendations for OCR freeware that I can pass along to some faculty that would like to make accessible documents for their students? Kindest regards, Christopher J. Cuevas Assistive Technology Specialist Valencia College | Office for Students with Disabilities Mail Code: 3-31 701 N Econlockhatchee Trail Orlando, FL 32825-6404 P: 407-582-2530 | F: 407-582-8908 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 3:42 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] OCR Freeware Hi all, I have had mixed outcomes and incomplete file conversions with G-drive. Would love to hear from others who have successfully converted (medium size) from PDF to OCR recognized text. Thanks, Wink Harner winkharner1113@gmail.com foreigntype@gmail.com (Disclaimer: this email was dictated with Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive any quirks, mis-recognitions, or omissions.) From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Lisa Brandt Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 10:21 AM To: ATHEN Mailing List Subject: Re: [Athen] OCR Freeware Google Drive does OCR: https://support.google.com/drive/answer/176692?hl=en Lisa -- Lisa Brandt, PCC Disability Services Accessibility Technician Alternate Media Formats Technician 971-722-4366 SY CC 260 On 2 Sep 2014, at 7:08, Chris Cuevas wrote: Good morning fellow ATHENites, Does anyone have any recommendations for OCR freeware that I can pass along to some faculty that would like to make accessible documents for their students? Kindest regards, Christopher J. Cuevas Assistive Technology Specialist Valencia College | Office for Students with Disabilities Mail Code: 3-31 701 N Econlockhatchee Trail Orlando, FL 32825-6404 P: 407-582-2530 | F: 407-582-8908 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 10:49:05 2014 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion In-Reply-To: <11e901cfc7af$f8d8b670$ea8a2350$@ahead.org> References: <0EDA783F28EBCB4DA136913FECFCDF21ED72DA@DC-NAROPAEX10.naropa.edu> <02ed01cfc7ad$608df760$21a9e620$@htctu.net> <11e901cfc7af$f8d8b670$ea8a2350$@ahead.org> Message-ID: Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit along to our lab coordinator. I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in GoRead. Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now reads out loud in GoRead! Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! Thank you again one and all! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: > That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no longer > supporting it as far as I am aware. > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Gaeir Dietrich > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM > *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > > > You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: > > > > http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Neal Sorensen > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > > > Hello Heidi, > > > > Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a > quick how-to? > > > > 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted > folder. > > 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet > browser (I recommend Firefox) > > 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word > processor. > > 4. Breathe easy > > > > XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text > formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I > don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. > > > > I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility > issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for > me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for > working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those > students. > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > Neal Sorensen > > Specialist of Assistive Technology > > Office of Disability Resources > > Naropa University: Boulder, CO > > nsorensen@naropa.edu > > Phone: 303-546-3560 > > > > The Machine is Us/ing Us: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g > > "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY > so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out > there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare > and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any > luck getting that to work. > > > > Anyone have any ideas?? > > > > Thanks in advance!! > > > > Heidi > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Thu Sep 4 15:30:17 2014 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean Keegan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion In-Reply-To: References: <0EDA783F28EBCB4DA136913FECFCDF21ED72DA@DC-NAROPAEX10.naropa.edu> <02ed01cfc7ad$608df760$21a9e620$@htctu.net> <11e901cfc7af$f8d8b670$ea8a2350$@ahead.org> Message-ID: <6CC886C0-B715-40A4-92DF-95A2316A561C@stanford.edu> Hi Heidi, From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is lacking the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file? Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army knife if he did alt media production... Take care, Sean On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher wrote: > Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit along to our lab coordinator. > > I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in GoRead. > > Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now reads out loud in GoRead! > > Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! > > Thank you again one and all! > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: > That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no longer supporting it as far as I am aware. > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > > > Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > > > You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: > > > > http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Sorensen > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > > > Hello Heidi, > > > > Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a quick how-to? > > > > 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted folder. > > 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet browser (I recommend Firefox) > > 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word processor. > > 4. Breathe easy > > > > XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. > > > > I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those students. > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > Neal Sorensen > > Specialist of Assistive Technology > > Office of Disability Resources > > Naropa University: Boulder, CO > > nsorensen@naropa.edu > > Phone: 303-546-3560 > > > > The Machine is Us/ing Us: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g > > "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any luck getting that to work. > > > > Anyone have any ideas?? > > > > Thanks in advance!! > > > > Heidi > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 16:41:13 2014 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion In-Reply-To: References: <0EDA783F28EBCB4DA136913FECFCDF21ED72DA@DC-NAROPAEX10.naropa.edu> <02ed01cfc7ad$608df760$21a9e620$@htctu.net> <11e901cfc7af$f8d8b670$ea8a2350$@ahead.org> Message-ID: Where is the "easy" button, Heidi? That was brilliant and a good piece of info for the rest of us to know for future work. Wink Wink Harner foreigntype@gmail.com > On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher wrote: > > Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit along to our lab coordinator. > > I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in GoRead. > > Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now reads out loud in GoRead! > > Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! > > Thank you again one and all! > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > >> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: >> That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no longer supporting it as far as I am aware. >> >> >> >> Ron Stewart >> >> >> >> From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich >> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM >> To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion >> >> >> You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: >> >> >> >> http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ >> >> >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >> Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich >> 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >> >> >> From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Sorensen >> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM >> To: athen-list@u.washington.edu >> Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion >> >> >> >> Hello Heidi, >> >> >> >> Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a quick how-to? >> >> >> >> 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted folder. >> >> 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet browser (I recommend Firefox) >> >> 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word processor. >> >> 4. Breathe easy >> >> >> >> XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. >> >> >> >> I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those students. >> >> >> >> Hope this helps! >> >> >> >> Neal Sorensen >> >> Specialist of Assistive Technology >> >> Office of Disability Resources >> >> Naropa University: Boulder, CO >> >> nsorensen@naropa.edu >> >> Phone: 303-546-3560 >> >> >> >> The Machine is Us/ing Us: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g >> >> "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any luck getting that to work. >> >> >> >> Anyone have any ideas?? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance!! >> >> >> >> Heidi >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Fri Sep 5 05:21:29 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Google Sync Message-ID: Good morning ATHENians, I had not realized Google-Outlook Sync had been end of lived. Has anyone figured a good work around. Not using Outlook is really not a viable option at this point. 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Please contact the sender by reply email immediately and destroy all copies of the original message including all attachments. Even if you are an intended recipient of this email, the author requests that you not forward it to any other person without prior consent. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 8:21 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Google Sync Good morning ATHENians, I had not realized Google-Outlook Sync had been end of lived. Has anyone figured a good work around. Not using Outlook is really not a viable option at this point. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU Fri Sep 5 06:54:25 2014 From: Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU (Susan Kelmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Google Sync In-Reply-To: <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B756D46C3C1@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> References: <906395B08AE7B542882AC81A31B69B756D46C3C1@IU-MSSG-MBX110.ads.iu.edu> Message-ID: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B5CD5D1CC0@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Joe, the link doesn?t take me anywhere but to a Google page with a link to forums. Do you have a different link you could share? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Paire) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Google Sync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C7BE1EB9FF@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> Ron, You could also try gSyncit (note: I?ve never used it myself) if you need to sync your contacts as well as mail and calendar. http://www.fieldstonsoftware.com/software/gsyncit3/ If you don?t care about contacts then I?d do mail via an IMAP connection and Calendar via one of the mechanism outlined at http://www.ablebits.com/office-addins-blog/2013/11/20/sync-google-calendar-with-outlook/ -Paul From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 8:21 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Google Sync Good morning ATHENians, I had not realized Google-Outlook Sync had been end of lived. Has anyone figured a good work around. Not using Outlook is really not a viable option at this point. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU Fri Sep 5 07:26:54 2014 From: Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU (Susan Kelmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Google Sync In-Reply-To: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C7BE1EB9FF@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> References: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C7BE1EB9FF@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> Message-ID: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B5CD5D1CC4@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> I was hoping there was something new out there, but there isn?t. These are not plug-n-play solutions, which I desperately need (don?t have the hours to spend learning how to make it all work), and some of them sync google to outlook, when I need to sync outlook to google. Yes, those are different things. This has become a huge frustration for me. I wish Google and Microsoft would get it together and make it work. We are a Microsoft campus, with Google being pushed on us (docs, drive) and the two REALLY need to work together better. I guess I?m still stuck doing it manually for now? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Paul E. Paire Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 8:21 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Google Sync Ron, You could also try gSyncit (note: I?ve never used it myself) if you need to sync your contacts as well as mail and calendar. http://www.fieldstonsoftware.com/software/gsyncit3/ If you don?t care about contacts then I?d do mail via an IMAP connection and Calendar via one of the mechanism outlined at http://www.ablebits.com/office-addins-blog/2013/11/20/sync-google-calendar-with-outlook/ -Paul From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 8:21 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Google Sync Good morning ATHENians, I had not realized Google-Outlook Sync had been end of lived. Has anyone figured a good work around. Not using Outlook is really not a viable option at this point. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Fri Sep 5 07:48:04 2014 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Google Sync In-Reply-To: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C7BE1EB9FF@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> References: <3BDAB0D17C965648940B90D4B59685C7BE1EB9FF@exch14-mb1.tu.temple.edu> Message-ID: <005701cfc918$66707d80$33517880$@ahead.org> Thanks Paul that was a level of complexity I was trying to avoid. So much for the myth of having everything in the cloud, but I already knew that. I like having an Android phone, an iPad and my Windows laptop to actually get my work done as seamlessly as possible. Two bad the three companies cannot play nice with each other, but that was never a surprise either. Ron From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Paul E. Paire Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 9:21 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Google Sync Ron, You could also try gSyncit (note: I?ve never used it myself) if you need to sync your contacts as well as mail and calendar. http://www.fieldstonsoftware.com/software/gsyncit3/ If you don?t care about contacts then I?d do mail via an IMAP connection and Calendar via one of the mechanism outlined at http://www.ablebits.com/office-addins-blog/2013/11/20/sync-google-calendar-with-outlook/ -Paul From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 8:21 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Google Sync Good morning ATHENians, I had not realized Google-Outlook Sync had been end of lived. Has anyone figured a good work around. Not using Outlook is really not a viable option at this point. Ron Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Fri Sep 5 09:06:40 2014 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion In-Reply-To: <6CC886C0-B715-40A4-92DF-95A2316A561C@stanford.edu> References: <0EDA783F28EBCB4DA136913FECFCDF21ED72DA@DC-NAROPAEX10.naropa.edu> <02ed01cfc7ad$608df760$21a9e620$@htctu.net> <11e901cfc7af$f8d8b670$ea8a2350$@ahead.org> <6CC886C0-B715-40A4-92DF-95A2316A561C@stanford.edu> Message-ID: Hey there, Sean, According to the tech at Bookshare, they use the Save As DAISY plug-in. So not sure why we can't get it to work but they can. For GoRead, it doesn't want all the SMIL files either. But since we're swamped right now, I've moved on since my MacGyver solution has worked! But, if things ever slow down, I'll revisit the issue - unless someone else can figure out what we haven't. Wink, I SOOOO wish we had an easy button for conversion! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Sean Keegan wrote: > Hi Heidi, > > From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As > DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is > lacking the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to > producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML > file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a > complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file? > > Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with > Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army > knife if he did alt media production... > > Take care, > Sean > > > On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher wrote: > > Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit > along to our lab coordinator. > > I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare > books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do > full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not > having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and > work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app > for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in > GoRead. > > Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I > combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one > large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now > reads out loud in GoRead! > > Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! > > Thank you again one and all! > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: > >> That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no >> longer supporting it as far as I am aware. >> >> >> >> Ron Stewart >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] >> *On Behalf Of *Gaeir Dietrich >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM >> *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion >> >> >> >> You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: >> >> >> >> http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ >> >> >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >> Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich >> 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On >> Behalf Of *Neal Sorensen >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM >> *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu >> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion >> >> >> >> Hello Heidi, >> >> >> >> Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a >> quick how-to? >> >> >> >> 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the >> extracted folder. >> >> 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet >> browser (I recommend Firefox) >> >> 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word >> processor. >> >> 4. Breathe easy >> >> >> >> XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text >> formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I >> don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. >> >> >> >> I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility >> issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for >> me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for >> working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those >> students. >> >> >> >> Hope this helps! >> >> >> >> Neal Sorensen >> >> Specialist of Assistive Technology >> >> Office of Disability Resources >> >> Naropa University: Boulder, CO >> >> nsorensen@naropa.edu >> >> Phone: 303-546-3560 >> >> >> >> The Machine is Us/ing Us: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g >> >> "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY >> so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out >> there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare >> and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any >> luck getting that to work. >> >> >> >> Anyone have any ideas?? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance!! >> >> >> >> Heidi >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Fri Sep 5 10:15:39 2014 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion In-Reply-To: References: <0EDA783F28EBCB4DA136913FECFCDF21ED72DA@DC-NAROPAEX10.naropa.edu> <02ed01cfc7ad$608df760$21a9e620$@htctu.net> <11e901cfc7af$f8d8b670$ea8a2350$@ahead.org> <6CC886C0-B715-40A4-92DF-95A2316A561C@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <142101cfc92d$04cd52f0$0e67f8d0$@gmail.com> Hahahaha! We should discuss how to do this at AHG ---we could get rich and retire. ;>) Wink Harner foreigntype@gmail.com From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 9:07 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Hey there, Sean, According to the tech at Bookshare, they use the Save As DAISY plug-in. So not sure why we can't get it to work but they can. For GoRead, it doesn't want all the SMIL files either. But since we're swamped right now, I've moved on since my MacGyver solution has worked! But, if things ever slow down, I'll revisit the issue - unless someone else can figure out what we haven't. Wink, I SOOOO wish we had an easy button for conversion! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Sean Keegan wrote: Hi Heidi, >From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is lacking the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file? Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army knife if he did alt media production... Take care, Sean On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher wrote: Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit along to our lab coordinator. I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in GoRead. Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now reads out loud in GoRead! Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! Thank you again one and all! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no longer supporting it as far as I am aware. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Sorensen Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Hello Heidi, Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a quick how-to? 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted folder. 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet browser (I recommend Firefox) 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word processor. 4. Breathe easy XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those students. Hope this helps! Neal Sorensen Specialist of Assistive Technology Office of Disability Resources Naropa University: Boulder, CO nsorensen@naropa.edu Phone: 303-546-3560 The Machine is Us/ing Us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" Hi all, This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any luck getting that to work. Anyone have any ideas?? Thanks in advance!! Heidi _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _____ No virus found in this message. 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All the major converters that are using either have for the most part added custom scripting to standardize the output and avoid issues such as those caused in the proprietary markup that you will find in specific XML implementations such as that is found in Docx. Not sure if it makes any real difference to most of you but this has been one of the challenges that we have faced over the years as we have tried to move forward with a robust, standardized and easily implemented solution in the AIM space. XML is a specification but it can be implemented in a huge variety of ways and forms. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:07 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Hey there, Sean, According to the tech at Bookshare, they use the Save As DAISY plug-in. So not sure why we can't get it to work but they can. For GoRead, it doesn't want all the SMIL files either. But since we're swamped right now, I've moved on since my MacGyver solution has worked! But, if things ever slow down, I'll revisit the issue - unless someone else can figure out what we haven't. Wink, I SOOOO wish we had an easy button for conversion! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Sean Keegan wrote: Hi Heidi, >From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is lacking the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file? Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army knife if he did alt media production... Take care, Sean On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher wrote: Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit along to our lab coordinator. I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in GoRead. Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now reads out loud in GoRead! Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! Thank you again one and all! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no longer supporting it as far as I am aware. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Sorensen Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Hello Heidi, Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a quick how-to? 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted folder. 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet browser (I recommend Firefox) 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word processor. 4. Breathe easy XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those students. Hope this helps! Neal Sorensen Specialist of Assistive Technology Office of Disability Resources Naropa University: Boulder, CO nsorensen@naropa.edu Phone: 303-546-3560 The Machine is Us/ing Us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" Hi all, This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any luck getting that to work. Anyone have any ideas?? Thanks in advance!! Heidi _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From ron at altformatsolutions.com Fri Sep 5 11:40:19 2014 From: ron at altformatsolutions.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] FW: ADA Technology Compliance Analyst at Butler University In-Reply-To: <4897318859878662.WA.rhartmanbutler.edu@listserv.buffalo.edu> References: <4897318859878662.WA.rhartmanbutler.edu@listserv.buffalo.edu> Message-ID: <04bb01cfc938$d836df20$88a49d60$@altformatsolutions.com> Some may be interested in this position. Butler is a progressive small private school in Indianapolis Ron Stewart Butler University Office of Student Disability Services is actively searching for an ADA Technology Compliance Analyst. The position description is below, and for further information on the application process, please visit: http://www.butler.edu/human-resources/employment/professional. Butler University, Indianapolis, IN Position Responsibilities: *Facilitate a technological campus-wide ADA accessibility audit *Establish and ensure campus-wide ADA accessibility and compliance for all electronic and information technology systems, including web-based information and applications *Collaborate with Instructional Designers within the Center for Academic Technology to create ADA accessible on-line and on-ground coursework *Work closely with relevant faculty/staff across campus to ensure equitable ADA access for all technological aspects of Butler courses including their interface with learning management systems *Develop and present training programs, and provide individual consultations, to campus community with regards to ADA technological/electronic access *Create policy, under supervision of director, regarding university expectations for ADA compliance for technology, electronics, websites, captioning, and electronically presented coursework materials *Provide technical support for assistive technology as needed *Work with departments on campus to develop procurement policies that support the purchase of ADA accessible technological and electronic products and services *Provide direct assistive technology and technical departmental support to students/staff members in Student Disability Services *Research, assess, and address campus-wide compliance-based responsibilities regarding captioning Position requirements: *Bachelor's degree required; Master's degree preferred *Two to four years related and progressively responsible experience required; higher education experience preferred *Demonstrated initiative and ability to work in a self-directed manner under supervision *Demonstrated organizational ability *Demonstrated understanding of ADA requirements as they relate to technological access *Excellent oral, written, and interpersonal skills To apply: Please visit www.careerbuilder.com and enter keywords "Butler University". 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Contact Listowner Dan Ryan at dryan@buffalo.edu From gardnerj at onid.orst.edu Fri Sep 5 15:04:01 2014 From: gardnerj at onid.orst.edu (John Gardner) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion In-Reply-To: <038b01cfc934$f2c569a0$d8503ce0$@altformatsolutions.com> References: <0EDA783F28EBCB4DA136913FECFCDF21ED72DA@DC-NAROPAEX10.naropa.edu> <02ed01cfc7ad$608df760$21a9e620$@htctu.net> <11e901cfc7af$f8d8b670$ea8a2350$@ahead.org> <6CC886C0-B715-40A4-92DF-95A2316A561C@stanford.edu> <038b01cfc934$f2c569a0$d8503ce0$@altformatsolutions.com> Message-ID: <02cc01cfc955$50172150$f04563f0$@orst.edu> Ron, are there any open source scripts that convert MS Word XML to something more straightforward? Or even just algorithms. It would be nice to have something we could all standardize on. John From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:12 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Afternoon all, it was my understanding that they were using components of the DAISY Pipeline, which while close is not exactly the same thing. All the major converters that are using either have for the most part added custom scripting to standardize the output and avoid issues such as those caused in the proprietary markup that you will find in specific XML implementations such as that is found in Docx. Not sure if it makes any real difference to most of you but this has been one of the challenges that we have faced over the years as we have tried to move forward with a robust, standardized and easily implemented solution in the AIM space. XML is a specification but it can be implemented in a huge variety of ways and forms. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:07 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Hey there, Sean, According to the tech at Bookshare, they use the Save As DAISY plug-in. So not sure why we can't get it to work but they can. For GoRead, it doesn't want all the SMIL files either. But since we're swamped right now, I've moved on since my MacGyver solution has worked! But, if things ever slow down, I'll revisit the issue - unless someone else can figure out what we haven't. Wink, I SOOOO wish we had an easy button for conversion! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Sean Keegan wrote: Hi Heidi, >From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is lacking the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file? Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army knife if he did alt media production... Take care, Sean On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher wrote: Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit along to our lab coordinator. I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in GoRead. Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now reads out loud in GoRead! Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! Thank you again one and all! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no longer supporting it as far as I am aware. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Sorensen Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Hello Heidi, Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a quick how-to? 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted folder. 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet browser (I recommend Firefox) 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word processor. 4. Breathe easy XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those students. Hope this helps! Neal Sorensen Specialist of Assistive Technology Office of Disability Resources Naropa University: Boulder, CO nsorensen@naropa.edu Phone: 303-546-3560 The Machine is Us/ing Us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" Hi all, This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any luck getting that to work. Anyone have any ideas?? Thanks in advance!! Heidi _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Fri Sep 5 21:39:18 2014 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion In-Reply-To: <02cc01cfc955$50172150$f04563f0$@orst.edu> References: <0EDA783F28EBCB4DA136913FECFCDF21ED72DA@DC-NAROPAEX10.naropa.edu> <02ed01cfc7ad$608df760$21a9e620$@htctu.net> <11e901cfc7af$f8d8b670$ea8a2350$@ahead.org> <6CC886C0-B715-40A4-92DF-95A2316A561C@stanford.edu> <038b01cfc934$f2c569a0$d8503ce0$@altformatsolutions.com> <02cc01cfc955$50172150$f04563f0$@orst.edu> Message-ID: <078001cfc98c$856de550$9049aff0$@ahead.org> Evening John, just getting home. The only one that I am aware of is the TAMC tool that Kris Von See created. I am not aware of the licensing associated with it but would be more than happy to look into it. If there is an interest. It was really valuable in the early NIMAS days and actually something I still use when nothing else will work. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of John Gardner Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 5:04 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Ron, are there any open source scripts that convert MS Word XML to something more straightforward? Or even just algorithms. It would be nice to have something we could all standardize on. John From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:12 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Afternoon all, it was my understanding that they were using components of the DAISY Pipeline, which while close is not exactly the same thing. All the major converters that are using either have for the most part added custom scripting to standardize the output and avoid issues such as those caused in the proprietary markup that you will find in specific XML implementations such as that is found in Docx. Not sure if it makes any real difference to most of you but this has been one of the challenges that we have faced over the years as we have tried to move forward with a robust, standardized and easily implemented solution in the AIM space. XML is a specification but it can be implemented in a huge variety of ways and forms. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:07 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Hey there, Sean, According to the tech at Bookshare, they use the Save As DAISY plug-in. So not sure why we can't get it to work but they can. For GoRead, it doesn't want all the SMIL files either. But since we're swamped right now, I've moved on since my MacGyver solution has worked! But, if things ever slow down, I'll revisit the issue - unless someone else can figure out what we haven't. Wink, I SOOOO wish we had an easy button for conversion! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Sean Keegan wrote: Hi Heidi, >From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is lacking the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file? Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army knife if he did alt media production... Take care, Sean On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher wrote: Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit along to our lab coordinator. I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in GoRead. Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now reads out loud in GoRead! Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! Thank you again one and all! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no longer supporting it as far as I am aware. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Sorensen Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Hello Heidi, Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a quick how-to? 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted folder. 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet browser (I recommend Firefox) 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word processor. 4. Breathe easy XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those students. Hope this helps! Neal Sorensen Specialist of Assistive Technology Office of Disability Resources Naropa University: Boulder, CO nsorensen@naropa.edu Phone: 303-546-3560 The Machine is Us/ing Us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" Hi all, This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any luck getting that to work. Anyone have any ideas?? Thanks in advance!! Heidi _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kcahill at mit.edu Sat Sep 6 05:45:27 2014 From: kcahill at mit.edu (Kathleen Cahill) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Opinion column about TEACH Act and Accessibility Message-ID: Colleagues, Saw this article in the Boston Globe by the President of NFB of Massachusetts. He writes about the fact that ACE (American Council on Education) has been lobbying Congress not to pass the TEACH Act because of the burden that regulations around Accessible Instructional Materials would put on universities! http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/09/05/education-technology-college-lobbyists-are-keeping-disabled-students-behind/jQ8UFe44BeFBumbTTqBzFL/story.html?s_campaign=8315 Kathy Kathleen Cahill MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu From: "ron@ahead.org" > Reply-To: Access Network > Date: Saturday, September 6, 2014 at 12:39 AM To: "john.gardner@oregonstate.edu" >, Access Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Evening John, just getting home. The only one that I am aware of is the TAMC tool that Kris Von See created. I am not aware of the licensing associated with it but would be more than happy to look into it. If there is an interest. It was really valuable in the early NIMAS days and actually something I still use when nothing else will work. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of John Gardner Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 5:04 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Ron, are there any open source scripts that convert MS Word XML to something more straightforward? Or even just algorithms. It would be nice to have something we could all standardize on. John From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:12 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Afternoon all, it was my understanding that they were using components of the DAISY Pipeline, which while close is not exactly the same thing. All the major converters that are using either have for the most part added custom scripting to standardize the output and avoid issues such as those caused in the proprietary markup that you will find in specific XML implementations such as that is found in Docx. Not sure if it makes any real difference to most of you but this has been one of the challenges that we have faced over the years as we have tried to move forward with a robust, standardized and easily implemented solution in the AIM space. XML is a specification but it can be implemented in a huge variety of ways and forms. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:07 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Hey there, Sean, According to the tech at Bookshare, they use the Save As DAISY plug-in. So not sure why we can't get it to work but they can. For GoRead, it doesn't want all the SMIL files either. But since we're swamped right now, I've moved on since my MacGyver solution has worked! But, if things ever slow down, I'll revisit the issue - unless someone else can figure out what we haven't. Wink, I SOOOO wish we had an easy button for conversion! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Sean Keegan > wrote: Hi Heidi, >From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is lacking the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file? Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army knife if he did alt media production... Take care, Sean On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher > wrote: Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit along to our lab coordinator. I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in GoRead. Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now reads out loud in GoRead! Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! Thank you again one and all! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart > wrote: That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no longer supporting it as far as I am aware. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Sorensen Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Hello Heidi, Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a quick how-to? 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted folder. 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet browser (I recommend Firefox) 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word processor. 4. Breathe easy XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those students. Hope this helps! Neal Sorensen Specialist of Assistive Technology Office of Disability Resources Naropa University: Boulder, CO nsorensen@naropa.edu Phone: 303-546-3560 The Machine is Us/ing Us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" Hi all, This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any luck getting that to work. Anyone have any ideas?? Thanks in advance!! Heidi _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alipkin at brandeis.edu Sat Sep 6 06:20:01 2014 From: alipkin at brandeis.edu (Adam Lipkin) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Opinion column about TEACH Act and Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Reading the link in the article, it's not just ACE -- it's about a dozen organizations that collectively represent just about every major and minor US college and university. It also, I'm amazed to see, included Educause. Really depressing. --Adam On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Kathleen Cahill wrote: > Colleagues, > > Saw this article in the Boston Globe by the President of NFB of > Massachusetts. He writes about the fact that ACE (American Council on > Education) has been lobbying Congress not to pass the TEACH Act because of > the burden that regulations around Accessible Instructional Materials would > put on universities! > > > http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/09/05/education-technology-college-lobbyists-are-keeping-disabled-students-behind/jQ8UFe44BeFBumbTTqBzFL/story.html?s_campaign=8315 > > > Kathy > > Kathleen Cahill > MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) > 77 Mass. 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URL: From dann at digilifemedia.biz Sat Sep 6 08:04:35 2014 From: dann at digilifemedia.biz (Dann Berkowitz) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion In-Reply-To: <142101cfc92d$04cd52f0$0e67f8d0$@gmail.com> References: <0EDA783F28EBCB4DA136913FECFCDF21ED72DA@DC-NAROPAEX10.naropa.edu> <02ed01cfc7ad$608df760$21a9e620$@htctu.net> <11e901cfc7af$f8d8b670$ea8a2350$@ahead.org> <6CC886C0-B715-40A4-92DF-95A2316A561C@stanford.edu> <142101cfc92d$04cd52f0$0e67f8d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Don't get too excited Wink ... Adam and I developed a pretty good system for building DTB files, but as Sean noted, DAISY as a format has not gained as much usage as we all hoped. On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:15 PM, foreigntype wrote: > Hahahaha! We should discuss how to do this at AHG ---we could get rich and > retire. > > ;>) > > > > Wink Harner > > foreigntype@gmail.com > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Heidi Scher > *Sent:* Friday, September 05, 2014 9:07 AM > > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > > > Hey there, Sean, > > According to the tech at Bookshare, they use the Save As DAISY plug-in. So > not sure why we can't get it to work but they can. For GoRead, it doesn't > want all the SMIL files either. But since we're swamped right now, I've > moved on since my MacGyver solution has worked! But, if things ever slow > down, I'll revisit the issue - unless someone else can figure out what we > haven't. > > Wink, I SOOOO wish we had an easy button for conversion! > > Heidi > > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Sean Keegan wrote: > > Hi Heidi, > > > > From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As > DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is > lacking the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to > producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML > file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a > complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file? > > > > Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with > Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army > knife if he did alt media production... > > > > Take care, > > Sean > > > > > > On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher wrote: > > > > Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit > along to our lab coordinator. > > I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare > books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do > full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not > having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and > work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app > for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in > GoRead. > > Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I > combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one > large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now > reads out loud in GoRead! > > Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! > > Thank you again one and all! > > Heidi > > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: > > That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no longer > supporting it as far as I am aware. > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Gaeir Dietrich > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM > *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > > > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > > > > > You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: > > > > http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Neal Sorensen > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > > > Hello Heidi, > > > > Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a > quick how-to? > > > > 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted > folder. > > 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet > browser (I recommend Firefox) > > 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word > processor. > > 4. Breathe easy > > > > XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text > formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I > don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. > > > > I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility > issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for > me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for > working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those > students. > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > Neal Sorensen > > Specialist of Assistive Technology > > Office of Disability Resources > > Naropa University: Boulder, CO > > nsorensen@naropa.edu > > Phone: 303-546-3560 > > > > The Machine is Us/ing Us: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g > > "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY > so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out > there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare > and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any > luck getting that to work. > > > > Anyone have any ideas?? > > > > Thanks in advance!! > > > > Heidi > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > ------------------------------ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8160 - Release Date: 09/05/14 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- =================== Daniel Berkowitz Digilife Media, LLC 123 W. 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Really depressing. --Adam On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Kathleen Cahill > wrote: Colleagues, Saw this article in the Boston Globe by the President of NFB of Massachusetts. He writes about the fact that ACE (American Council on Education) has been lobbying Congress not to pass the TEACH Act because of the burden that regulations around Accessible Instructional Materials would put on universities! http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/09/05/education-technology-college-lobbyists-are-keeping-disabled-students-behind/jQ8UFe44BeFBumbTTqBzFL/story.html?s_campaign=8315 Kathy Kathleen Cahill MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Adam Lipkin Associate Director for Academic Technology alipkin@brandeis.edu 781-736-4795 Brandeis University Library and Technology Services Mailstop 045 Waltham, MA 02454 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From kcahill at mit.edu Sat Sep 6 09:02:50 2014 From: kcahill at mit.edu (Kathleen Cahill) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Opinion column about TEACH Act and Accessibility In-Reply-To: <72C58680-A9EB-4CC8-8391-63C8D57D341C@ua.edu> References: <72C58680-A9EB-4CC8-8391-63C8D57D341C@ua.edu> Message-ID: Is there anyone on the ATHEN list who is also involved in the EDUCAUSE IT Accessibility group? Just wondering if EDUCAUSE (or any of these organizations) sought out expert accessibility advice before formulating their opposition to the TEACH Act. It?s starting to sound more and more like the concerns of these umbrella organizations are about avoiding more regulation by the government. Kathy Kathleen Cahill MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu On 9/6/14, 11:26 AM, "Thompson, Rachel" wrote: >This is disheartening. How can we change it? > >Dr. Rachel S. Thompson >Director, Emerging Technology >Center for Instructional Technology >University of Alabama > >On Sep 6, 2014, at 8:23 AM, "Adam Lipkin" >> wrote: > >Reading the link in the article, it's not just ACE -- it's about a dozen >organizations that collectively represent just about every major and >minor US college and university. It also, I'm amazed to see, included >Educause. Really depressing. > >--Adam > > >On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Kathleen Cahill >> wrote: >Colleagues, > >Saw this article in the Boston Globe by the President of NFB of >Massachusetts. He writes about the fact that ACE (American Council on >Education) has been lobbying Congress not to pass the TEACH Act because >of the burden that regulations around Accessible Instructional Materials >would put on universities! > >http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/09/05/education-technology-college >-lobbyists-are-keeping-disabled-students-behind/jQ8UFe44BeFBumbTTqBzFL/sto >ry.html?s_campaign=8315 > >Kathy > >Kathleen Cahill >MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) >77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 >Cambridge MA 02139 >(617) 253-5111 >kcahill@mit.edu > > >_______________________________________________ >athen-list mailing list >athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edugton.edu> >http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > >-- >Adam Lipkin >Associate Director for Academic Technology >alipkin@brandeis.edu >781-736-4795 >Brandeis University Library and Technology Services >Mailstop 045 >Waltham, MA 02454 >_______________________________________________ >athen-list mailing list >athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edugton.edu> >http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >_______________________________________________ >athen-list mailing list >athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From ronrstewart at gmail.com Sat Sep 6 09:09:03 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Opinion column about TEACH Act and Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <72C58680-A9EB-4CC8-8391-63C8D57D341C@ua.edu> Message-ID: If history is any indicator it is very likely they did not. Ron Stewart On Saturday, September 6, 2014, Kathleen Cahill wrote: > Is there anyone on the ATHEN list who is also involved in the EDUCAUSE IT > Accessibility group? Just wondering if EDUCAUSE (or any of these > organizations) sought out expert accessibility advice before formulating > their opposition to the TEACH Act. It?s starting to sound more and more > like the concerns of these umbrella organizations are about avoiding more > regulation by the government. > > Kathy > > Kathleen Cahill > MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) > 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 > Cambridge MA 02139 > (617) 253-5111 > kcahill@mit.edu > > > > > > On 9/6/14, 11:26 AM, "Thompson, Rachel" > > wrote: > > >This is disheartening. How can we change it? > > > >Dr. Rachel S. Thompson > >Director, Emerging Technology > >Center for Instructional Technology > >University of Alabama > > > >On Sep 6, 2014, at 8:23 AM, "Adam Lipkin" > > >> wrote: > > > >Reading the link in the article, it's not just ACE -- it's about a dozen > >organizations that collectively represent just about every major and > >minor US college and university. It also, I'm amazed to see, included > >Educause. Really depressing. > > > >--Adam > > > > > >On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Kathleen Cahill > >>> > wrote: > >Colleagues, > > > >Saw this article in the Boston Globe by the President of NFB of > >Massachusetts. He writes about the fact that ACE (American Council on > >Education) has been lobbying Congress not to pass the TEACH Act because > >of the burden that regulations around Accessible Instructional Materials > >would put on universities! > > > > > http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/09/05/education-technology-college > >-lobbyists-are-keeping-disabled-students-behind/jQ8UFe44BeFBumbTTqBzFL/sto > >ry.html?s_campaign=8315 > > > >Kathy > > > >Kathleen Cahill > >MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) > >77 Mass. 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URL: From jsuttondc at gmail.com Sat Sep 6 13:55:25 2014 From: jsuttondc at gmail.com (Jennifer Sutton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Journal on Technology & Persons with Disabilities Volume 1 Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20140906135444.05cd5358@gmail.com> Greetings, ATHEN: I thought some of you might want to at least take a skim through this Table of Contents. Apologies for cross-posting. Journal on Technology & Persons with Disabilities Volume 1: http://scholarworks.csun.edu/handle/10211.3/125008 From jsuttondc at gmail.com Sat Sep 6 16:47:02 2014 From: jsuttondc at gmail.com (Jennifer Sutton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] webaim Survey of Web Accessibility Practitioners Results Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20140906164533.05d89db0@gmail.com> ATHEN: While the following was posted to the WebAIM list, I thought some here might also like to see it. Best, Jennifer webaim Survey of Web Accessibility Practitioners Results http://webaim.org/projects/practitionersurvey/ From hascherdss at gmail.com Mon Sep 8 08:03:27 2014 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion In-Reply-To: References: <0EDA783F28EBCB4DA136913FECFCDF21ED72DA@DC-NAROPAEX10.naropa.edu> <02ed01cfc7ad$608df760$21a9e620$@htctu.net> <11e901cfc7af$f8d8b670$ea8a2350$@ahead.org> <6CC886C0-B715-40A4-92DF-95A2316A561C@stanford.edu> <142101cfc92d$04cd52f0$0e67f8d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Happy Monday all! So I'm wondering why full DAISY so popular with our students and not with coastal students? Hm......... Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Dann Berkowitz wrote: > Don't get too excited Wink ... Adam and I developed a pretty good system > for building DTB files, but as Sean noted, DAISY as a format has not gained > as much usage as we all hoped. > > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:15 PM, foreigntype wrote: > >> Hahahaha! We should discuss how to do this at AHG ---we could get rich >> and retire. >> >> ;>) >> >> >> >> Wink Harner >> >> foreigntype@gmail.com >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] >> *On Behalf Of *Heidi Scher >> *Sent:* Friday, September 05, 2014 9:07 AM >> >> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network >> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion >> >> >> >> Hey there, Sean, >> >> According to the tech at Bookshare, they use the Save As DAISY plug-in. >> So not sure why we can't get it to work but they can. For GoRead, it >> doesn't want all the SMIL files either. But since we're swamped right now, >> I've moved on since my MacGyver solution has worked! But, if things ever >> slow down, I'll revisit the issue - unless someone else can figure out what >> we haven't. >> >> Wink, I SOOOO wish we had an easy button for conversion! >> >> Heidi >> >> >> +++++++++++++++ >> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC >> Associate Director >> Center for Educational Access >> University of Arkansas >> ARKU 104 >> Fayetteville, AR 72701 >> 479.575.3104 >> 479.575.7445 fax >> 479.575.3646 tdd >> +++++++++++++++ >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Sean Keegan wrote: >> >> Hi Heidi, >> >> >> >> From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As >> DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is >> lacking the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to >> producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML >> file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a >> complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file? >> >> >> >> Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with >> Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army >> knife if he did alt media production... >> >> >> >> Take care, >> >> Sean >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher wrote: >> >> >> >> Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit >> along to our lab coordinator. >> >> I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare >> books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do >> full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not >> having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and >> work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app >> for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in >> GoRead. >> >> Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I >> combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one >> large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now >> reads out loud in GoRead! >> >> Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! >> >> Thank you again one and all! >> >> Heidi >> >> >> +++++++++++++++ >> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC >> Associate Director >> Center for Educational Access >> University of Arkansas >> ARKU 104 >> Fayetteville, AR 72701 >> 479.575.3104 >> 479.575.7445 fax >> 479.575.3646 tdd >> +++++++++++++++ >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: >> >> That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no >> longer supporting it as far as I am aware. >> >> >> >> Ron Stewart >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] >> *On Behalf Of *Gaeir Dietrich >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM >> *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' >> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion >> >> >> >> >> >> You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: >> >> >> >> http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ >> >> >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >> Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich >> 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On >> Behalf Of *Neal Sorensen >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM >> *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu >> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion >> >> >> >> Hello Heidi, >> >> >> >> Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a >> quick how-to? >> >> >> >> 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the >> extracted folder. >> >> 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet >> browser (I recommend Firefox) >> >> 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word >> processor. >> >> 4. Breathe easy >> >> >> >> XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text >> formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I >> don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. >> >> >> >> I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility >> issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for >> me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for >> working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those >> students. >> >> >> >> Hope this helps! >> >> >> >> Neal Sorensen >> >> Specialist of Assistive Technology >> >> Office of Disability Resources >> >> Naropa University: Boulder, CO >> >> nsorensen@naropa.edu >> >> Phone: 303-546-3560 >> >> >> >> The Machine is Us/ing Us: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g >> >> "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY >> so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out >> there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare >> and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any >> luck getting that to work. >> >> >> >> Anyone have any ideas?? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance!! >> >> >> >> Heidi >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8160 - Release Date: 09/05/14 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> > > > -- > =================== > Daniel Berkowitz > Digilife Media, LLC > 123 W. Bloomingdale Ave. > #261 > Brandon, FL 33511-7400 > > Phone: 978-914-4601 > FAX: 813-689-4328 > Email: dann@digilifemedia.biz > Web: www.digilifemedia.biz > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Mon Sep 8 08:47:44 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion In-Reply-To: References: <0EDA783F28EBCB4DA136913FECFCDF21ED72DA@DC-NAROPAEX10.naropa.edu> <02ed01cfc7ad$608df760$21a9e620$@htctu.net> <11e901cfc7af$f8d8b670$ea8a2350$@ahead.org> <6CC886C0-B715-40A4-92DF-95A2316A561C@stanford.edu> <142101cfc92d$04cd52f0$0e67f8d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: DAISY is very popular with students who have been properly exposed to it and understand its strengths and limitations. In my experience the real challenge is in getting folks to try something new or be willing to give up their current solution for a better one. Ron Stewart On Monday, September 8, 2014, Heidi Scher wrote: > Happy Monday all! > > So I'm wondering why full DAISY so popular with our students and not with > coastal students? Hm......... > > Heidi > > > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Dann Berkowitz > wrote: > >> Don't get too excited Wink ... Adam and I developed a pretty good system >> for building DTB files, but as Sean noted, DAISY as a format has not gained >> as much usage as we all hoped. >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:15 PM, foreigntype > > wrote: >> >>> Hahahaha! We should discuss how to do this at AHG ---we could get rich >>> and retire. >>> >>> ;>) >>> >>> >>> >>> Wink Harner >>> >>> foreigntype@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu >>> ] >>> *On Behalf Of *Heidi Scher >>> *Sent:* Friday, September 05, 2014 9:07 AM >>> >>> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network >>> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion >>> >>> >>> >>> Hey there, Sean, >>> >>> According to the tech at Bookshare, they use the Save As DAISY plug-in. >>> So not sure why we can't get it to work but they can. For GoRead, it >>> doesn't want all the SMIL files either. But since we're swamped right now, >>> I've moved on since my MacGyver solution has worked! But, if things ever >>> slow down, I'll revisit the issue - unless someone else can figure out what >>> we haven't. >>> >>> Wink, I SOOOO wish we had an easy button for conversion! >>> >>> Heidi >>> >>> >>> +++++++++++++++ >>> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC >>> Associate Director >>> Center for Educational Access >>> University of Arkansas >>> ARKU 104 >>> Fayetteville, AR 72701 >>> 479.575.3104 >>> 479.575.7445 fax >>> 479.575.3646 tdd >>> +++++++++++++++ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Sean Keegan >> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi Heidi, >>> >>> >>> >>> From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As >>> DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is >>> lacking the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to >>> producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML >>> file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a >>> complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file? >>> >>> >>> >>> Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with >>> Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army >>> knife if he did alt media production... >>> >>> >>> >>> Take care, >>> >>> Sean >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit >>> along to our lab coordinator. >>> >>> I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare >>> books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do >>> full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not >>> having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and >>> work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app >>> for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in >>> GoRead. >>> >>> Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I >>> combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one >>> large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now >>> reads out loud in GoRead! >>> >>> Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! >>> >>> Thank you again one and all! >>> >>> Heidi >>> >>> >>> +++++++++++++++ >>> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC >>> Associate Director >>> Center for Educational Access >>> University of Arkansas >>> ARKU 104 >>> Fayetteville, AR 72701 >>> 479.575.3104 >>> 479.575.7445 fax >>> 479.575.3646 tdd >>> +++++++++++++++ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart >> > wrote: >>> >>> That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no >>> longer supporting it as far as I am aware. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron Stewart >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu >>> ] >>> *On Behalf Of *Gaeir Dietrich >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM >>> *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' >>> >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: >>> >>> >>> >>> http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> >>> Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich >>> 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 >>> >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* athen-list >>> [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] >>> *On >>> Behalf Of *Neal Sorensen >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM >>> *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello Heidi, >>> >>> >>> >>> Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a >>> quick how-to? >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the >>> extracted folder. >>> >>> 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet >>> browser (I recommend Firefox) >>> >>> 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word >>> processor. >>> >>> 4. Breathe easy >>> >>> >>> >>> XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text >>> formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I >>> don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility >>> issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for >>> me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for >>> working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those >>> students. >>> >>> >>> >>> Hope this helps! >>> >>> >>> >>> Neal Sorensen >>> >>> Specialist of Assistive Technology >>> >>> Office of Disability Resources >>> >>> Naropa University: Boulder, CO >>> >>> nsorensen@naropa.edu >>> >>> >>> Phone: 303-546-3560 >>> >>> >>> >>> The Machine is Us/ing Us: >>> >>> The Machine is Us/ing Us (Final Version) >>> >>> >>> "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the >>> world?" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> >>> This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY >>> so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out >>> there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare >>> and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any >>> luck getting that to work. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyone have any ideas?? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance!! >>> >>> >>> >>> Heidi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >>> >>> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >>> >>> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >>> >>> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8160 - Release Date: 09/05/14 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >>> >>> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> =================== >> Daniel Berkowitz >> Digilife Media, LLC >> 123 W. Bloomingdale Ave. >> #261 >> Brandon, FL 33511-7400 >> >> Phone: 978-914-4601 >> FAX: 813-689-4328 >> Email: dann@digilifemedia.biz >> >> Web: www.digilifemedia.biz >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Mon Sep 8 09:05:32 2014 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion In-Reply-To: References: <0EDA783F28EBCB4DA136913FECFCDF21ED72DA@DC-NAROPAEX10.naropa.edu> <02ed01cfc7ad$608df760$21a9e620$@htctu.net> <11e901cfc7af$f8d8b670$ea8a2350$@ahead.org> <6CC886C0-B715-40A4-92DF-95A2316A561C@stanford.edu> <142101cfc92d$04cd52f0$0e67f8d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846C151176@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> You aren?t just kidding! I have some students who refuse to even try DAISY because that?s not what they used in school. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:48 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion DAISY is very popular with students who have been properly exposed to it and understand its strengths and limitations. In my experience the real challenge is in getting folks to try something new or be willing to give up their current solution for a better one. Ron Stewart On Monday, September 8, 2014, Heidi Scher > wrote: Happy Monday all! So I'm wondering why full DAISY so popular with our students and not with coastal students? Hm......... Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Dann Berkowitz > wrote: Don't get too excited Wink ... Adam and I developed a pretty good system for building DTB files, but as Sean noted, DAISY as a format has not gained as much usage as we all hoped. On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:15 PM, foreigntype > wrote: Hahahaha! We should discuss how to do this at AHG ---we could get rich and retire. ;>) Wink Harner foreigntype@gmail.com From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 9:07 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Hey there, Sean, According to the tech at Bookshare, they use the Save As DAISY plug-in. So not sure why we can't get it to work but they can. For GoRead, it doesn't want all the SMIL files either. But since we're swamped right now, I've moved on since my MacGyver solution has worked! But, if things ever slow down, I'll revisit the issue - unless someone else can figure out what we haven't. Wink, I SOOOO wish we had an easy button for conversion! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Sean Keegan > wrote: Hi Heidi, From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is lacking the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file? Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army knife if he did alt media production... Take care, Sean On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher > wrote: Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit along to our lab coordinator. I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in GoRead. Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now reads out loud in GoRead! Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! Thank you again one and all! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart > wrote: That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no longer supporting it as far as I am aware. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Sorensen Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Hello Heidi, Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a quick how-to? 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted folder. 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet browser (I recommend Firefox) 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word processor. 4. Breathe easy XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those students. Hope this helps! Neal Sorensen Specialist of Assistive Technology Office of Disability Resources Naropa University: Boulder, CO nsorensen@naropa.edu Phone: 303-546-3560 The Machine is Us/ing Us: The Machine is Us/ing Us (Final Version) "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" Hi all, This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any luck getting that to work. Anyone have any ideas?? Thanks in advance!! Heidi _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list ________________________________ No virus found in this message. 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One of the differences is in regards to non-compliant instructional materials - the HEAA stipulates that an institution of of higher ed which uses materials that are non-conforming to accessibility requirements would need to provide assurance to the Secretary that the instructional materials will be provided in an accessible format. See Sec. 931, (f) Noncompliant Instructional Materials (http://www.help.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HEAA%20Discussion%20Draft%20Language%206.25.14.pdf). I do not see this same language in the TEACH Act. I think there may also an issue regarding the definition of "electronic instructional materials." Perhaps it is defined elsewhere, but while the TEACH Act defines what it means by that terminology, there is no such definition in the HEAA bill. Yes, it is disappointing to see such a position taken by ACE and the other constituent groups. I was hoping that concerned language would have at least made it into the "Provisions Where Sectors Differ" section in the letter to Sen. Harkin. Clearly, it will require additional conversations with the major groups to develop better support for the instructional materials section. Take care, Sean On Sep 6, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Kathleen Cahill wrote: > Colleagues, > > Saw this article in the Boston Globe by the President of NFB of Massachusetts. He writes about the fact that ACE (American Council on Education) has been lobbying Congress not to pass the TEACH Act because of the burden that regulations around Accessible Instructional Materials would put on universities! > > http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/09/05/education-technology-college-lobbyists-are-keeping-disabled-students-behind/jQ8UFe44BeFBumbTTqBzFL/story.html?s_campaign=8315 > > Kathy > > Kathleen Cahill > MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) > 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 > Cambridge MA 02139 > (617) 253-5111 > kcahill@mit.edu > > > From: "ron@ahead.org" > Reply-To: Access Network > Date: Saturday, September 6, 2014 at 12:39 AM > To: "john.gardner@oregonstate.edu" , Access Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > Evening John, just getting home. > > The only one that I am aware of is the TAMC tool that Kris Von See created. I am not aware of the licensing associated with it but would be more than happy to look into it. If there is an interest. It was really valuable in the early NIMAS days and actually something I still use when nothing else will work. > > Ron Stewart > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of John Gardner > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 5:04 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > Ron, are there any open source scripts that convert MS Word XML to something more straightforward? Or even just algorithms. It would be nice to have something we could all standardize on. > > John > > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Ron Stewart > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:12 AM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > Afternoon all, it was my understanding that they were using components of the DAISY Pipeline, which while close is not exactly the same thing. All the major converters that are using either have for the most part added custom scripting to standardize the output and avoid issues such as those caused in the proprietary markup that you will find in specific XML implementations such as that is found in Docx. > > Not sure if it makes any real difference to most of you but this has been one of the challenges that we have faced over the years as we have tried to move forward with a robust, standardized and easily implemented solution in the AIM space. XML is a specification but it can be implemented in a huge variety of ways and forms. > > Ron Stewart > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Heidi Scher > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:07 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > Hey there, Sean, > > According to the tech at Bookshare, they use the Save As DAISY plug-in. So not sure why we can't get it to work but they can. For GoRead, it doesn't want all the SMIL files either. But since we're swamped right now, I've moved on since my MacGyver solution has worked! But, if things ever slow down, I'll revisit the issue - unless someone else can figure out what we haven't. > > Wink, I SOOOO wish we had an easy button for conversion! > > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Sean Keegan wrote: > Hi Heidi, > > From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is lacking the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file? > > Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army knife if he did alt media production... > > Take care, > Sean > > > On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher wrote: > > > Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit along to our lab coordinator. > > I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in GoRead. > > Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now reads out loud in GoRead! > > Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! > > Thank you again one and all! > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: > That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no longer supporting it as far as I am aware. > > Ron Stewart > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > > Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > > You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: > > http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Sorensen > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > Hello Heidi, > > Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a quick how-to? > > 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted folder. > 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet browser (I recommend Firefox) > 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word processor. > 4. Breathe easy > > XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. > > I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those students. > > Hope this helps! > > Neal Sorensen > Specialist of Assistive Technology > Office of Disability Resources > Naropa University: Boulder, CO > nsorensen@naropa.edu > Phone: 303-546-3560 > > The Machine is Us/ing Us: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g > "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" > > > Hi all, > > This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. 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It wasn't awesome, but maybe that was due to user error. Carin From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:22 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] accessible conference app A colleague of mine who regularly organizes conferences asked me if anyone can suggest a good app (preferably multi-platform) for serving conference schedules and information to participants - and is, of course, accessible! He has been using Twoppy, has not been able to acquire accessibility info from most of the other vendors he has contacted, and would like to know if he should stay with Twoppy or attempt a switch. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can offer, Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst Northern Arizona University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at nau.edu Tue Sep 9 09:48:09 2014 From: Teresa.Haven at nau.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessible conference app In-Reply-To: References: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FDA62717@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Message-ID: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FDA62815@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Thanks, Carin, I will pass that along. Teresa From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Carin Headrick Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:42 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] accessible conference app I don't know if this would be any good, but the people who organized Accessibility Camp Toronto used an app called "Guidebook". I don't know if there is an android version, but I would think there was. Myself personally, I found it a bit clumsy because I had to keep dragging my finger around the screen rather than flicking, but other than that, for the limited use I made of it to read session schedules, it worked ok. It wasn't awesome, but maybe that was due to user error. Carin From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:22 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] accessible conference app A colleague of mine who regularly organizes conferences asked me if anyone can suggest a good app (preferably multi-platform) for serving conference schedules and information to participants - and is, of course, accessible! He has been using Twoppy, has not been able to acquire accessibility info from most of the other vendors he has contacted, and would like to know if he should stay with Twoppy or attempt a switch. 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Thanks Brad Held Assistive Technology Coordinator Student Disability Services University of Central Florida Ferrell Commons 7F, Room 185 Orlando, FL 32816-0161 (407) 823-2371 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Carin Headrick Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] accessible conference app I don't know if this would be any good, but the people who organized Accessibility Camp Toronto used an app called "Guidebook". I don't know if there is an android version, but I would think there was. Myself personally, I found it a bit clumsy because I had to keep dragging my finger around the screen rather than flicking, but other than that, for the limited use I made of it to read session schedules, it worked ok. It wasn't awesome, but maybe that was due to user error. Carin From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:22 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] accessible conference app A colleague of mine who regularly organizes conferences asked me if anyone can suggest a good app (preferably multi-platform) for serving conference schedules and information to participants - and is, of course, accessible! He has been using Twoppy, has not been able to acquire accessibility info from most of the other vendors he has contacted, and would like to know if he should stay with Twoppy or attempt a switch. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can offer, Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst Northern Arizona University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at nau.edu Tue Sep 9 10:08:02 2014 From: Teresa.Haven at nau.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessible conference app In-Reply-To: References: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FDA62717@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Message-ID: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FDA628E6@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Thanks for the additional details, Brad - it definitely helps. Cheers, Teresa From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Brad Held Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:58 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] accessible conference app Dear Teresa, UCF has used Guidebook. It did work on Android and iOS. Our event coordinators found it easy to upload the conference schedule, room assignment with map, and get feedback. Our attendee also thought it was a nice touch. We used the free version. I hope this helps. Thanks Brad Held Assistive Technology Coordinator Student Disability Services University of Central Florida Ferrell Commons 7F, Room 185 Orlando, FL 32816-0161 (407) 823-2371 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Carin Headrick Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] accessible conference app I don't know if this would be any good, but the people who organized Accessibility Camp Toronto used an app called "Guidebook". I don't know if there is an android version, but I would think there was. Myself personally, I found it a bit clumsy because I had to keep dragging my finger around the screen rather than flicking, but other than that, for the limited use I made of it to read session schedules, it worked ok. It wasn't awesome, but maybe that was due to user error. 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URL: From rsthompson2 at ua.edu Tue Sep 9 15:53:47 2014 From: rsthompson2 at ua.edu (Thompson, Rachel) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] FW: Update on TEACH: video and more References: Message-ID: FYI Dr. Rachel S. Thompson Director, Emerging Technology Center for Instructional Technology University of Alabama Begin forwarded message: From: "McLarney, Lauren via Nfbnet-members-list" > Date: September 9, 2014, 4:25:26 PM CDT To: "nfbnet-members-list@nfbnet.org" > Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] FW: Update on TEACH: video and more Reply-To: "McLarney, Lauren" > Hi team: I am writing with a progress report on the TEACH Act! This afternoon we released a video, ?A Lesson on the TEACH Act,? which can be found on NFB?s YouTube page. It features a few recognizable NABS members, a school rep, an industry rep, a senator, even some NCB staff, you name it! Our hope is that you will circulate this video to your friends, family, and networks to spread the message about the problem of inaccessible instructional materials and the amazing solution that is the TEACH Act. This problem hits home for many of you, especially those of you in high school or higher ed, and yet so many people have no idea what it is like for blind college students or why this problem exists in the first place. We tried to answer those questions in the video, and used a fun style to sell our solution and inspire others to help. We are also experimenting with different forms of video description, so here is a short description of ?A Lesson on the TEACH Act?: Beginning segment: LM is sitting in the auditorium. First, four random people from the street give their perception of technology and the impact it has had on students with disabilities. Next, four blind students describe their reality over video conferencing software. During introductions, cartoon sun rays in different colors swirl behind their head. Second segment: LM discusses the TEACH Act. Towards the end, a ticker runs along the bottom length of the screen repeating ?guidelines!...guidelines!...guidelines!? followed by a flashing ticker that reads ?no mandates!? and another that reads ?no new requirement!? Third segment: A clip of Lucy France from the University of Montana addressing the 2014 NFB National Convention about the need for more information, and Allan Adler in the Association of American Publishers conference room discussing the importance of guidelines. Fourth segment: LM narrates checking items off of a checklist. Pictures of six senators spiral onto the screen. At the end, LM asks: ?Since when have these two ever seen eye-to-eye on anything?? and a giant red question mark appears on the screen. The checklist is displayed and bipartisan support is checked. A list of groups that endorse the bill is read, while those names fall from the sky into a pile at the bottom of the screen. LM says: ?That?s pretty much everyone,? and a giant red explanation point appears on the screen. The checklist reappears and endorsements is checked. The AIM Commission Report cover page is displayed, and then recommendation #1 is read aloud while the words are highlighted. LM says: ?Not just any recommendation, recommendation #1,? and a giant red #1 appears on the screen. The checklist reappears and data is checked. Finally, a screenshot of the Change.org petition is displayed and the number of signatures is circled. LM says: ?That?s a lot of people,? and a giant red WOW appears on the screen. The checklist reappears for a final time and public support is checked. Fifth segment: LM makes a call to action. Blind students describe why they want Congress to pass the TEACH Act. Senator Warren appears. She is seated at a table, filmed from the side, and seems to be in front of an audience speaking into a microphone. Right now is a critical time: students just got back to school, Congress just got back to session, and the higher education lobby just came out against our initiative. This video is part of the momentum, so view, share, and TEACH! Speaking of momentum, did you catch President Riccobono?s blog post about ACE?s opposition to the bill? It summarizes ACE?s position, NFB?s reaction, and our hope for common ground. You can find it at http://bit.ly/1uAjI2X. And did you catch Kyle Shachmut?s op-ed that ran in the online version of the Boston Globe? The NFB of MA President calls out the presidents of institutions of higher education in MA that serve on ACE?s board. You can read that at http://bit.ly/1tsYVh8. Even better, NABS has started a Twitter frenzy. Join them and tweet @ACEducation about President Riccobono?s blog post or Kyle?s op-ed, or express your outrage with something short like, ?@ACEducation, why do you oppose accessibility guidelines? Equal access for blind students.? If you?re super busy, simply retweet a blind student like Sarah Patnaude (@Sarah2346) who said: ?@ACEducation @AASCU: why make it harder for blind students by opposing #accessibility guidelines? #TEACHAct http://ow.ly/3qfxnC.? We have heard through the grapevine that we have gotten ACE?s attention - let?s keep the TEACH Act on their radar! Let?s keep making noise, Lauren Lauren McLarney Government Affairs Specialist National Federation of the Blind 200 East Wells Street Baltimore, MD 21230 410.659.9314 ext. 2207 _______________________________________________ Nfbnet-members-list mailing list Nfbnet-members-list@nfbnet.org List archives: From ea at emptech.info Tue Sep 9 23:12:10 2014 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A.Draffan) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] prezi.com question In-Reply-To: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846C1515AF@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> References: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846C1515AF@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: <000f01cfccbe$28ec6fb0$7ac54f10$@emptech.info> It has changed but not sufficiently to allow for full access with NVDA and there are other issues for all students. Web2Access has a recent update on Prezi http://www.web2access.org.uk/product/172 I would love to be able to add more positive notes to this evaluation as we may have missed something. Many thanks. Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan WAIS, ECS , University of Southampton Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 Mobile +44 (0)7976 289103 http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: 09 September 2014 21:32 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] prezi.com question Hi all, Has anyone had a screen reader user successfully use www.prezi.com to create presentations? My understanding in the past was it was not accessible with a screen reader. However, that is older info and I haven't tried it in some time. I didn't want to go through the whole account creation process if anybody else can give me the answers. Thanks. 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Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of E.A.Draffan Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:12 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] prezi.com question It has changed but not sufficiently to allow for full access with NVDA and there are other issues for all students. Web2Access has a recent update on Prezi http://www.web2access.org.uk/product/172 I would love to be able to add more positive notes to this evaluation as we may have missed something. Many thanks. Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. 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Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Schneider, Karen Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:19 AM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: [Athen] Placement Test and Screen Reader Software Hello: In an effort to eliminate/reduce use of human readers on Placement Tests, I wanted to know if any of your schools use the Accuplacer test. If so, what screen reader software have you found to be compatible with it? Thank you in advance, Karen Karen L. Schneider, MRC, CRC Adaptive Equipment Specialist Sinclair Community College 444 West Third Street Dayton OH 45402 (937) 512-2136 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Web2Access has a recent update on Prezi http://www.web2access.org.uk/product/172 I would love to be able to add more positive notes to this evaluation as we may have missed something. Many thanks. Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan WAIS, ECS , University of Southampton Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 Mobile +44 (0)7976 289103 http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: 09 September 2014 21:32 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] prezi.com question Hi all, Has anyone had a screen reader user successfully use www.prezi.com to create presentations? My understanding in the past was it was not accessible with a screen reader. However, that is older info and I haven't tried it in some time. I didn't want to go through the whole account creation process if anybody else can give me the answers. Thanks. 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Regards, Carol Raymundo, MS Coordinator, Center for Accessibility Resources & Student Assessment Linn-Benton Community College raymundo@linnbenton.edu 541-917-4832 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Schneider, Karen < karen.schneider@sinclair.edu> wrote: > Hello: In an effort to eliminate/reduce use of human readers on > Placement Tests, I wanted to know if any of your schools use the Accuplacer > test. If so, what screen reader software have you found to be compatible > with it? > > > > Thank you in advance, > > > > Karen > > > > *Karen L. Schneider, MRC, CRC* > > Adaptive Equipment Specialist > > Sinclair Community College > > 444 West Third Street > > Dayton OH 45402 > > (937) 512-2136 > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- Regards, Carol Raymundo, MS Coordinator, Center for Accessibility Resources & Student Assessment Linn-Benton Community College raymundo@linnbenton.edu 541-917-4832 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Any use, disclosure, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by any person and/or entity other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete it from your computer immediately. Thank you.* *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Carol Raymundo *Sent:* Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:00 PM *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Placement Test and Screen Reader Software We did a huge study of this very thing this summer. As of last week I am so happy to say we are no longer using human readers with Accuplacer. We found that the only screen reading software that works with Accuplacer is Read and Write Gold. We decided to purchase 2 licenses that are on USB's so they can be moved around in the testing center. Feel free to contact me if you would like to discuss this some more. Regards, Carol Raymundo, MS Coordinator, Center for Accessibility Resources & Student Assessment Linn-Benton Community College raymundo@linnbenton.edu 541-917-4832 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Schneider, Karen < karen.schneider@sinclair.edu> wrote: Hello: In an effort to eliminate/reduce use of human readers on Placement Tests, I wanted to know if any of your schools use the Accuplacer test. If so, what screen reader software have you found to be compatible with it? Thank you in advance, Karen *Karen L. Schneider, MRC, CRC* Adaptive Equipment Specialist Sinclair Community College 444 West Third Street Dayton OH 45402 (937) 512-2136 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Regards, Carol Raymundo, MS Coordinator, Center for Accessibility Resources & Student Assessment Linn-Benton Community College raymundo@linnbenton.edu 541-917-4832 -- *SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE* *IMPORTANT: The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any use, disclosure, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by any person and/or entity other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. 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Bristol Community College Coordinator of Disability Services Office of Disability Services, L115 Email: cindy.poore-pariseau@bristolcc.edu Phone: (508) 678-2811 x 2470 Fax: (508) 508-730-3297 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Schneider, Karen Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:18 AM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: [Athen] Placement Test and Screen Reader Software Hello: In an effort to eliminate/reduce use of human readers on Placement Tests, I wanted to know if any of your schools use the Accuplacer test. If so, what screen reader software have you found to be compatible with it? Thank you in advance, Karen Karen L. Schneider, MRC, CRC Adaptive Equipment Specialist Sinclair Community College 444 West Third Street Dayton OH 45402 (937) 512-2136 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 69751 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From erinlau at umich.edu Wed Sep 10 11:06:13 2014 From: erinlau at umich.edu (Erin Lauridsen) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Placement Test and Screen Reader Software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Carol, Curious if this solution works for blind students? In my experience Read and Write must be operated with a mouse, would love to know if there is a work around. Thanks, Erin -- Erin Lauridsen Screen Reader Specialist University of Michigan erinlau@umich.edu (734) 764-7825 On 9/10/14, Carol Raymundo wrote: > We did a huge study of this very thing this summer. As of last week I am so > happy to say we are no longer using human readers with Accuplacer. We found > that the only screen reading software that works with Accuplacer is Read > and Write Gold. We decided to purchase 2 licenses that are on USB's so they > can be moved around in the testing center. Feel free to contact me if you > would like to discuss this some more. > > Regards, > > Carol Raymundo, MS > Coordinator, Center for Accessibility Resources & Student Assessment > Linn-Benton Community College > > raymundo@linnbenton.edu > 541-917-4832 > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Schneider, Karen < > karen.schneider@sinclair.edu> wrote: > >> Hello: In an effort to eliminate/reduce use of human readers on >> Placement Tests, I wanted to know if any of your schools use the >> Accuplacer >> test. If so, what screen reader software have you found to be compatible >> with it? >> >> >> >> Thank you in advance, >> >> >> >> Karen >> >> >> >> *Karen L. Schneider, MRC, CRC* >> >> Adaptive Equipment Specialist >> >> Sinclair Community College >> >> 444 West Third Street >> >> Dayton OH 45402 >> >> (937) 512-2136 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > > Carol Raymundo, MS > Coordinator, Center for Accessibility Resources & Student Assessment > Linn-Benton Community College > > raymundo@linnbenton.edu > 541-917-4832 > From bossley.5 at osu.edu Wed Sep 10 14:35:18 2014 From: bossley.5 at osu.edu (Bossley, Peter A. (Pete)) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Placement Test and Screen Reader Software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006B5C8325EEDA44A1A7D3955F5431CD6EFB634E@CIO-KRC-D1MBX04.osuad.osu.edu> Nope, RW Gold really doesn't work for blind students. Peter Bossley OCIO Accessibility Analyst Office of the Chief Information Officer Enterprise Applications 017 Enarson Classrooms Building, 2009 Millikin Rd, Columbus, OH 43210 (614) 292-8571 Office bossley.5@osu.edu ocio.osu.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Erin Lauridsen Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:06 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Placement Test and Screen Reader Software Hi Carol, Curious if this solution works for blind students? In my experience Read and Write must be operated with a mouse, would love to know if there is a work around. Thanks, Erin -- Erin Lauridsen Screen Reader Specialist University of Michigan erinlau@umich.edu (734) 764-7825 On 9/10/14, Carol Raymundo wrote: > We did a huge study of this very thing this summer. As of last week I am so > happy to say we are no longer using human readers with Accuplacer. We found > that the only screen reading software that works with Accuplacer is Read > and Write Gold. We decided to purchase 2 licenses that are on USB's so they > can be moved around in the testing center. Feel free to contact me if you > would like to discuss this some more. > > Regards, > > Carol Raymundo, MS > Coordinator, Center for Accessibility Resources & Student Assessment > Linn-Benton Community College > > raymundo@linnbenton.edu > 541-917-4832 > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Schneider, Karen < > karen.schneider@sinclair.edu> wrote: > >> Hello: In an effort to eliminate/reduce use of human readers on >> Placement Tests, I wanted to know if any of your schools use the >> Accuplacer >> test. If so, what screen reader software have you found to be compatible >> with it? >> >> >> >> Thank you in advance, >> >> >> >> Karen >> >> >> >> *Karen L. Schneider, MRC, CRC* >> >> Adaptive Equipment Specialist >> >> Sinclair Community College >> >> 444 West Third Street >> >> Dayton OH 45402 >> >> (937) 512-2136 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > > Carol Raymundo, MS > Coordinator, Center for Accessibility Resources & Student Assessment > Linn-Benton Community College > > raymundo@linnbenton.edu > 541-917-4832 > _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From lcarlson at d.umn.edu Thu Sep 11 10:50:01 2014 From: lcarlson at d.umn.edu (Laura Carlson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Google announces accessibility improvements for Drive and Docs editors Message-ID: Hi all, Posted today on Google's Blog: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2014/09/google-drive-and-docs-editors-designed.html Best Regards, Laura -- Laura L. Carlson Information Technology Systems and Services University of Minnesota Duluth Duluth, MN U.S.A. 55812-3009 http://www.d.umn.edu/itss/training/online/webdesign/ From Elizabeth.Prickett at victoriacollege.edu Thu Sep 11 14:14:33 2014 From: Elizabeth.Prickett at victoriacollege.edu (Prickett, Elizabeth) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker Building Block for Blackboard Message-ID: Good afternoon! A representative from ReadSpeaker (http://www.readspeaker.com/) contacted our Distance Education Director about offering a building block for Blackboard. I've seen ReadSpeaker used with Cengage's MindTap application. Our students who are in developmental and student success courses are able to access their ebooks this way when they would like to hear them read out loud. We're wondering if this building block is worth investigating. Has anyone implemented this with your LMS already? Thanks for your feedback! 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Have a good weekend, Karen -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman13.u.washington.edu Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:02 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 104, Issue 10 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman13.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman13.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Placement Test and Screen Reader Software (Bossley, Peter A. (Pete)) 2. Google announces accessibility improvements for Drive and Docs editors (Laura Carlson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:35:18 +0000 From: "Bossley, Peter A. (Pete)" To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Placement Test and Screen Reader Software Message-ID: <006B5C8325EEDA44A1A7D3955F5431CD6EFB634E@CIO-KRC-D1MBX04.osuad.osu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Nope, RW Gold really doesn't work for blind students. Peter Bossley OCIO Accessibility Analyst Office of the Chief Information Officer Enterprise Applications 017 Enarson Classrooms Building, 2009 Millikin Rd, Columbus, OH 43210 (614) 292-8571 Office bossley.5@osu.edu ocio.osu.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Erin Lauridsen Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:06 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Placement Test and Screen Reader Software Hi Carol, Curious if this solution works for blind students? In my experience Read and Write must be operated with a mouse, would love to know if there is a work around. Thanks, Erin -- Erin Lauridsen Screen Reader Specialist University of Michigan erinlau@umich.edu (734) 764-7825 On 9/10/14, Carol Raymundo wrote: > We did a huge study of this very thing this summer. As of last week I > am so happy to say we are no longer using human readers with > Accuplacer. We found that the only screen reading software that works > with Accuplacer is Read and Write Gold. We decided to purchase 2 > licenses that are on USB's so they can be moved around in the testing > center. Feel free to contact me if you would like to discuss this some more. > > Regards, > > Carol Raymundo, MS > Coordinator, Center for Accessibility Resources & Student Assessment > Linn-Benton Community College > > raymundo@linnbenton.edu > 541-917-4832 > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Schneider, Karen < > karen.schneider@sinclair.edu> wrote: > >> Hello: In an effort to eliminate/reduce use of human readers on >> Placement Tests, I wanted to know if any of your schools use the >> Accuplacer test. If so, what screen reader software have you found to >> be compatible with it? >> >> >> >> Thank you in advance, >> >> >> >> Karen >> >> >> >> *Karen L. Schneider, MRC, CRC* >> >> Adaptive Equipment Specialist >> >> Sinclair Community College >> >> 444 West Third Street >> >> Dayton OH 45402 >> >> (937) 512-2136 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > > Carol Raymundo, MS > Coordinator, Center for Accessibility Resources & Student Assessment > Linn-Benton Community College > > raymundo@linnbenton.edu > 541-917-4832 > _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:50:01 -0500 From: Laura Carlson To: ATHEN Subject: [Athen] Google announces accessibility improvements for Drive and Docs editors Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all, Posted today on Google's Blog: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2014/09/google-drive-and-docs-editors-designed.html Best Regards, Laura -- Laura L. Carlson Information Technology Systems and Services University of Minnesota Duluth Duluth, MN U.S.A. 55812-3009 http://www.d.umn.edu/itss/training/online/webdesign/ ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list ------------------------------ End of athen-list Digest, Vol 104, Issue 10 ******************************************* From Derek.Chaves at umassmed.edu Fri Sep 12 06:57:03 2014 From: Derek.Chaves at umassmed.edu (Chaves, Derek) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker Building Block for Blackboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We have implemented readspeaker on moodle and wordpress. It is great tool to increase the cognitive accessibility of an LMS. I think a better implementation would be with hardcode instead of using the block. We feel the best place for the plugin is as the last element in the header so the location is standardized through the entire LMS. Our moodle implementation has ben taken down for the time being but you can see our wordpress version on our site http://neindex.org. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance. Sincerely, Derek Chaves Director of Technology UMass Medical School E. K. Shriver Center INDEX 55 Lake Avenue North, S3-WS9 Worcester, MA 01655 Ph: 774-455-4003 Derek.Chaves@umassmed.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Prickett, Elizabeth Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:15 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu; altmedia@htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker Building Block for Blackboard Good afternoon! A representative from ReadSpeaker (http://www.readspeaker.com/) contacted our Distance Education Director about offering a building block for Blackboard. I've seen ReadSpeaker used with Cengage's MindTap application. Our students who are in developmental and student success courses are able to access their ebooks this way when they would like to hear them read out loud. We're wondering if this building block is worth investigating. Has anyone implemented this with your LMS already? Thanks for your feedback! Liz Prickett Alternative Media Specialist Center for Academic & Professional Excellence (CAPE) Victoria College 2200 E. Red River Street Victoria, TX 77901 Elizabeth.Prickett@VictoriaCollege.edu (361) 573-3291, ext. 3243 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From devrtodd at isu.edu Fri Sep 12 07:26:47 2014 From: devrtodd at isu.edu (Todd DeVries) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Safe Exam Browser and Moodle Message-ID: Hello everyone, Has anyone had experience installing and running the Safe Exam Browser from http://safeexambrowser.org? We have had a request to use this in conjunction with proctoring on-line examinations. I have not been able to find any comments concerning how it works with screen readers or other accessibility devices. The software would be installed in a managed lab setting where files cannot be saved beyond a reboot. Thanks in advance for any comments or ideas. Todd DeVries Idaho State University Disability Services Phone: (208) 282-3599 Fax: (208) 282-4617 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 08:05:09 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker Building Block for Blackboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <266601cfce9a$f2c5d2d0$d8517870$@gmail.com> >From a general usability perspective it is a good tool for those who benefit from audio reinforcement, perhaps even some disabilities. For the majority of folks who have sensory disabilities and more serious processing disabilities it really does not do a lot. With the campuses I work with, several who have implemented this tech or similar tech like Browse-Aloud the most significant problem is the lack of understanding that tools like this do very little to insure the accessibility of your webspace. They are not a replacement for actually insuring that your site is fully accessible with commonly used assistive technologies, and in fact can be detrimental to the process since they give a false sense of security about the sites accessibility. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Chaves, Derek Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:57 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] ReadSpeaker Building Block for Blackboard We have implemented readspeaker on moodle and wordpress. It is great tool to increase the cognitive accessibility of an LMS. I think a better implementation would be with hardcode instead of using the block. We feel the best place for the plugin is as the last element in the header so the location is standardized through the entire LMS. Our moodle implementation has ben taken down for the time being but you can see our wordpress version on our site http://neindex.org. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance. Sincerely, Derek Chaves Director of Technology UMass Medical School E. K. Shriver Center INDEX 55 Lake Avenue North, S3-WS9 Worcester, MA 01655 Ph: 774-455-4003 Derek.Chaves@umassmed.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Prickett, Elizabeth Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:15 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu; altmedia@htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu Subject: [Athen] ReadSpeaker Building Block for Blackboard Good afternoon! A representative from ReadSpeaker (http://www.readspeaker.com/) contacted our Distance Education Director about offering a building block for Blackboard. I've seen ReadSpeaker used with Cengage's MindTap application. Our students who are in developmental and student success courses are able to access their ebooks this way when they would like to hear them read out loud. We're wondering if this building block is worth investigating. Has anyone implemented this with your LMS already? Thanks for your feedback! Liz Prickett Alternative Media Specialist Center for Academic & Professional Excellence (CAPE) Victoria College 2200 E. Red River Street Victoria, TX 77901 Elizabeth.Prickett@VictoriaCollege.edu (361) 573-3291, ext. 3243 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I recently happened to see the Educause agenda and program (link below), and I wondered if anyone on this list who's involved with accessibility-related activities might provide us with an update, expected highlights, etc. I'm not particularly asking with respect to the subject of the TEACH Act (as was being discussed here recently), but rather, I'm asking for a more general sense of what may take place at the conference related to IT (and other) accessibility and higher ed. I know there has been work, and there have been presentations in the past, so I'm looking for a bit of an update. Thanks in advance. And I hope those who attend the conference will find it productive. Best, Jennifer Agenda and Program | EDUCAUSE.edu http://www.educause.edu/annual-conference/agenda-and-program?utm_source=Informz&utm_medium=Email%20marketing&utm_campaign=EDUCAUSE From ronrstewart at gmail.com Mon Sep 15 14:50:27 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility discussions at EDUCAUSE Message-ID: <375001cfd12f$101da4c0$3058ee40$@gmail.com> Afternoon, ATHEN has been very much involved in trying to get progress in realistic accessibility efforts with EDUCAUSE for quite some time. The current effort is being led by long time ATHEN members Greg Krause and Terrill Thompson but given the recent opposition against the provisions of the TEACH act by ACE and EDUCAUSE reflects a long standing dilemma. For over a decade we have been attempting to get EDUCAUSE to take a firm policy and practice stand in regards to fully inclusive education but they have never been willing to do so in any substantive way. Like many similar organizations that are highly beholden to the commercial producers of technology and curriculum it is very difficult to get them to take a firm and forward thinking position when your major corporate donors are fundamentally opposed to such a concept of only producing fully accessible and inclusive products. They pay lip service to the topic but when you take a careful examination of their actual progress it is minimal at best. I can point to numerous large scale projects that EDUCAUSE has promoted over the years that speak to why they talk to the talk but as an organization are clearly not willing to walk the walk. After almost two decades working in this space I am at the conclusion that it will only be through litigation and legislative action that we will see the changes that are needed. That approach has actually ben anathema to me since the outcomes usually result in more bad than good for all the constituent groups involved. I have tried for just as long to work in a collaborative and cooperative way with groups such as this, which has resulted in the disability and access community giving and giving with little to none reciprocity on the part of the vendors and the institutions represented by groups such as ACE. A perfect example of this is the work around AIM that has been done, but has resulted in almost no fully accessible curriculum being developed and delivered by the commercial players. In fact the digital materials currently being sold into the educational space are much worse from an accessibility perspective than what has come before. Ron Stewart -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sutton Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 3:56 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Accessibility discussions at EduCause Greetings, ATHENites: If this question is considered off-topic, please direct me to a more appropriate forum. I recently happened to see the Educause agenda and program (link below), and I wondered if anyone on this list who's involved with accessibility-related activities might provide us with an update, expected highlights, etc. I'm not particularly asking with respect to the subject of the TEACH Act (as was being discussed here recently), but rather, I'm asking for a more general sense of what may take place at the conference related to IT (and other) accessibility and higher ed. I know there has been work, and there have been presentations in the past, so I'm looking for a bit of an update. Thanks in advance. And I hope those who attend the conference will find it productive. Best, Jennifer Agenda and Program | EDUCAUSE.edu http://www.educause.edu/annual-conference/agenda-and-program?utm_source=Info rmz&utm_medium=Email%20marketing&utm_campaign=EDUCAUSE _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From greg_kraus at ncsu.edu Mon Sep 15 15:54:43 2014 From: greg_kraus at ncsu.edu (Greg Kraus) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility discussions at EDUCAUSE In-Reply-To: <375001cfd12f$101da4c0$3058ee40$@gmail.com> References: <375001cfd12f$101da4c0$3058ee40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jennifer, There are several accessibility related presentations at the EDUCAUSE Annual Conference this year. I am pasting them at the end of this email. We do have an annual meeting of the IT Accessibility Constituent Group at the Annual Conference where we discuss a variety of topics. The meeting is open to anyone at the conference. The TEACH Act has been brought up as a possible discussion topic and I'm looking into having an EDUCAUSE representative present. If anyone is interested in joining the Constituent Group, you can do so at the following URL. http://www.educause.edu/discuss/constituent-groups-about-information-systems-and-services/it-accessibility-constituent-group Greg -- Greg Kraus University IT Accessibility Coordinator NC State University 919.513.4087 gdkraus@ncsu.edu http://go.ncsu.edu/itaccess EDUCAUSE IT Accessibility CG Leader http://educause.edu/groups/itaccess Pre-Conference Sessions Project U: Universal Support for Online Students Sep 29th, 2014 8:00 AM - 11:30 AM http://www.educause.edu/annual-conference/2014/seminar-16a-project-u-universal-support-online-students-separate-registration-required Implementing IT Accessibility on Your Campus: Sharing Strategies That Succeed Sep 29th, 2014 12:30 PM - 4:00 PM http://www.educause.edu/annual-conference/2014/seminar-13p-implementing-it-accessibility-your-campus-sharing-strategies-succeed-separate-registration Conference Sessions Widening the Web: How to Make Web Applications Accessible for Everyone Sep 30th, 2014 1:30 PM - 2:30 PM http://www.educause.edu/annual-conference/2014/widening-web-how-make-web-applications-accessible-everyone Studio Learning Meets Universal Design: How Learning Communities Grow Innovative Spaces Sep 30th, 2014 3:40 PM - 4:30 PM http://www.educause.edu/annual-conference/2014/studio-learning-meets-universal-design-how-learning-communities-grow-innovative-spaces Making IT Accessibility Accessible (in the Learning Theater, with members of the IT Accessibility Constituent Group) Sep 30th, 2014 4:45 PM - 6:00 PM http://www.educause.edu/annual-conference/2014/making-it-accessibility-accessible IT Accessibility and Procurement: Successes, Challenges, and Lessons Learned Oct 1st, 2014 9:10 AM - 10:00 AM http://www.educause.edu/annual-conference/2014/it-accessibility-and-procurement-successes-challenges-and-lessons-learned IT Accessibility Constituent Group Wednesday, October 1, 2:40-3:30 PM Accessible Product Design: The Power of Vendor-Client Collaboration Oct 2nd, 2014 9:10 AM - 10:00 AM http://www.educause.edu/annual-conference/2014/accessible-product-design-power-vendor-client-collaboration On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: > Afternoon, > > ATHEN has been very much involved in trying to get progress in realistic > accessibility efforts with EDUCAUSE for quite some time. The current effort > is being led by long time ATHEN members Greg Krause and Terrill Thompson but > given the recent opposition against the provisions of the TEACH act by ACE > and EDUCAUSE reflects a long standing dilemma. > > For over a decade we have been attempting to get EDUCAUSE to take a firm > policy and practice stand in regards to fully inclusive education but they > have never been willing to do so in any substantive way. Like many similar > organizations that are highly beholden to the commercial producers of > technology and curriculum it is very difficult to get them to take a firm > and forward thinking position when your major corporate donors are > fundamentally opposed to such a concept of only producing fully accessible > and inclusive products. They pay lip service to the topic but when you take > a careful examination of their actual progress it is minimal at best. > > I can point to numerous large scale projects that EDUCAUSE has promoted over > the years that speak to why they talk to the talk but as an organization are > clearly not willing to walk the walk. After almost two decades working in > this space I am at the conclusion that it will only be through litigation > and legislative action that we will see the changes that are needed. That > approach has actually ben anathema to me since the outcomes usually result > in more bad than good for all the constituent groups involved. I have tried > for just as long to work in a collaborative and cooperative way with groups > such as this, which has resulted in the disability and access community > giving and giving with little to none reciprocity on the part of the vendors > and the institutions represented by groups such as ACE. A perfect example > of this is the work around AIM that has been done, but has resulted in > almost no fully accessible curriculum being developed and delivered by the > commercial players. In fact the digital materials currently being sold into > the educational space are much worse from an accessibility perspective than > what has come before. > > Ron Stewart > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On > Behalf Of Jennifer Sutton > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 3:56 PM > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: [Athen] Accessibility discussions at EduCause > > Greetings, ATHENites: > > If this question is considered off-topic, please direct me to a more > appropriate forum. > > I recently happened to see the Educause agenda and program (link below), and > I wondered if anyone on this list who's involved with accessibility-related > activities might provide us with an update, expected highlights, etc. > > I'm not particularly asking with respect to the subject of the TEACH Act (as > was being discussed here recently), but rather, I'm asking for a more > general sense of what may take place at the conference related to IT (and > other) accessibility and higher ed. > > I know there has been work, and there have been presentations in the past, > so I'm looking for a bit of an update. > > Thanks in advance. And I hope those who attend the conference will find it > productive. > > Best, > Jennifer > > Agenda and Program | EDUCAUSE.edu > http://www.educause.edu/annual-conference/agenda-and-program?utm_source=Info > rmz&utm_medium=Email%20marketing&utm_campaign=EDUCAUSE > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From tft at uw.edu Tue Sep 16 07:05:41 2014 From: tft at uw.edu (Terrill Thompson) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Opinion column about TEACH Act and Accessibility In-Reply-To: <70326425-ED79-439F-BF07-753DCB47C647@stanford.edu> References: <70326425-ED79-439F-BF07-753DCB47C647@stanford.edu> Message-ID: I too am confused about the relationship between TEACH and the HEA Reauthorization Bill. According to govtrack.us, the TEACH Act is still in committee: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s2060 If TEACH is still alive, that may just be a technicality since I suspect those who oppose the accessibility provisions of HEA would also oppose TEACH. Nevertheless, if anyone can shed light on how these bills relate to one another, that would be much appreciated. As for EDUCAUSE signing the ACE letter, that was a surprise to those of us who are active In the EDUCAUSE IT Accessibility Constituent Group. They made the determination that the accessible media-related provisions of HEA "create an impossible to meet standard for institutions" and "will seriously impede the development and adoption of accessible materials, harming the very students it is intended to assist" without consulting its resident community of experts. I suspect they probably knew the experts would disagree with these opinions. As Greg Kraus mentioned in another thread related to the EDUCAUSE conference, we're trying to get someone from EDUCAUSE to attend the IT Accessibility Constituent Group annual meeting to explain and defend their position. Terrill --- Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology Services UW Information Technology University of Washington tft@uw.edu On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Sean Keegan wrote: > I was a bit confused by the article in that the author references the > TEACH Act several times, but the letter that ACE wrote to Senator Harkin is > in reference to the Higher Education Affordability Act (HEAA) or HEA > Reauthorization bill. The HEAA bill does contain most of the TEACH Act > content, but there are some differences. > > One of the differences is in regards to non-compliant instructional > materials - the HEAA stipulates that an institution of of higher ed which > uses materials that are non-conforming to accessibility requirements would > need to provide assurance to the Secretary that the instructional materials > will be provided in an accessible format. See Sec. 931, (f) Noncompliant > Instructional Materials ( > http://www.help.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HEAA%20Discussion%20Draft%20Language%206.25.14.pdf). > I do not see this same language in the TEACH Act. > > I think there may also an issue regarding the definition of "electronic > instructional materials." Perhaps it is defined elsewhere, but while the > TEACH Act defines what it means by that terminology, there is no such > definition in the HEAA bill. > > Yes, it is disappointing to see such a position taken by ACE and the other > constituent groups. I was hoping that concerned language would have at > least made it into the "Provisions Where Sectors Differ" section in the > letter to Sen. Harkin. Clearly, it will require additional conversations > with the major groups to develop better support for the instructional > materials section. > > Take care, > Sean > > > On Sep 6, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Kathleen Cahill wrote: > > Colleagues, > > Saw this article in the Boston Globe by the President of NFB of > Massachusetts. He writes about the fact that ACE (American Council on > Education) has been lobbying Congress not to pass the TEACH Act because of > the burden that regulations around Accessible Instructional Materials would > put on universities! > > > http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/09/05/education-technology-college-lobbyists-are-keeping-disabled-students-behind/jQ8UFe44BeFBumbTTqBzFL/story.html?s_campaign=8315 > > > Kathy > > Kathleen Cahill > MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) > 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 > Cambridge MA 02139 > (617) 253-5111 > kcahill@mit.edu > > > From: "ron@ahead.org" > Reply-To: Access Network > Date: Saturday, September 6, 2014 at 12:39 AM > To: "john.gardner@oregonstate.edu" , Access > Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > Evening John, just getting home. > > The only one that I am aware of is the TAMC tool that Kris Von See > created. I am not aware of the licensing associated with it but would be > more than happy to look into it. If there is an interest. It was really > valuable in the early NIMAS days and actually something I still use when > nothing else will work. > > Ron Stewart > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu > ] *On Behalf Of *John > Gardner > *Sent:* Friday, September 05, 2014 5:04 PM > *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > Ron, are there any open source scripts that convert MS Word XML to > something more straightforward? Or even just algorithms. It would be nice > to have something we could all standardize on. > > John > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu]*On > Behalf Of *Ron Stewart > *Sent:* Friday, September 05, 2014 11:12 AM > *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > Afternoon all, it was my understanding that they were using components of > the DAISY Pipeline, which while close is not exactly the same thing. All > the major converters that are using either have for the most part added > custom scripting to standardize the output and avoid issues such as those > caused in the proprietary markup that you will find in specific XML > implementations such as that is found in Docx. > > Not sure if it makes any real difference to most of you but this has been > one of the challenges that we have faced over the years as we have tried to > move forward with a robust, standardized and easily implemented solution in > the AIM space. XML is a specification but it can be implemented in a huge > variety of ways and forms. > > Ron Stewart > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu]*On > Behalf Of *Heidi Scher > *Sent:* Friday, September 05, 2014 11:07 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > > Hey there, Sean, > > According to the tech at Bookshare, they use the Save As DAISY plug-in. So > not sure why we can't get it to work but they can. For GoRead, it doesn't > want all the SMIL files either. But since we're swamped right now, I've > moved on since my MacGyver solution has worked! But, if things ever slow > down, I'll revisit the issue - unless someone else can figure out what we > haven't. > > Wink, I SOOOO wish we had an easy button for conversion! > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Sean Keegan wrote: > Hi Heidi, > > From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As > DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is > lacking the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to > producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML > file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a > complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file? > > Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with > Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army > knife if he did alt media production... > > Take care, > Sean > > > On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher wrote: > > > > Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit > along to our lab coordinator. > > I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare > books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do > full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not > having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and > work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app > for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in > GoRead. > > Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I > combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one > large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now > reads out loud in GoRead! > Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! > > Thank you again one and all! > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director > Center for Educational Access > University of Arkansas > ARKU 104 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 > 479.575.7445 fax > 479.575.3646 tdd > +++++++++++++++ > > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart wrote: > > That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no longer > supporting it as far as I am aware. > > > > Ron Stewart > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Gaeir Dietrich > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM > *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > > > > You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: > > > > http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich > 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Neal Sorensen > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion > > > > Hello Heidi, > > > > Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a > quick how-to? > > > 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted > folder. > 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet > browser (I recommend Firefox) > 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word > processor. > 4. Breathe easy > > > > XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text > formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I > don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. > > > > I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility > issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for > me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for > working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those > students. > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > Neal Sorensen > > Specialist of Assistive Technology > > Office of Disability Resources > > Naropa University: Boulder, CO > > nsorensen@naropa.edu > > Phone: 303-546-3560 > > > > The Machine is Us/ing Us: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g > > "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" > > > > > Hi all, > > This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY > so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out > there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare > and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any > luck getting that to work. > > Anyone have any ideas?? > > Thanks in advance!! > > Heidi > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg_kraus at ncsu.edu Tue Sep 16 07:10:13 2014 From: greg_kraus at ncsu.edu (Greg Kraus) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: [CIO] TEACH Act: Good Intentions, Bad Legislation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All, EDUCAUSE has posted a response to the TEACH Act. Greg -- Greg Kraus University IT Accessibility Coordinator NC State University 919.513.4087 gdkraus@ncsu.edu http://go.ncsu.edu/itaccess EDUCAUSE IT Accessibility CG Leader http://educause.edu/groups/itaccess ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jarret Cummings Date: Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:58 AM Subject: [CIO] TEACH Act: Good Intentions, Bad Legislation To: CIO@listserv.educause.edu The American Council on Education (ACE) and EDUCAUSE published a joint piece in today?s Inside Higher Education explaining the higher education community?s opposition to the TEACH Act (https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2014/09/16/essay-criticizing-teach-act). This bill, originally proposed by the National Federation of the Blind and currently under consideration in Congress, purports to establish voluntary guidelines for accessible instructional materials and related technologies in higher education. It further describes those proposed guidelines as safe harbors that would protect institutions adopting compliant materials and technologies from litigation under current accessibility laws and regulations. Unfortunately, while we share the goal of improving the accessibility of digital instructional materials, TEACH is written in such a way that it would inadvertently work against that goal. It would impose on higher education ? and only on higher education ? a new standard for accessibility that would essentially eliminate the existing provisions of accessibility law and regulation that allow institutions to meet a student?s need in relation to the curriculum in question and the technologies available. Instead, it would restrict campus technology use to only those digital instructional materials and related technologies that are fully accessible from the start to all students regardless of the nature of the disability, the commercial availability of such materials and technologies, and the availability of reasonable accommodations. The bill also includes no provision for the ?installed base? of campus technologies and materials, so at a minimum, the full scope of campus instructional technology could be impacted. EDUCAUSE, ACE, and other leading associations will share more information on our concerns about the bill shortly. In the meantime, we are committed to finding an approach to improving the accessibility of digital instructional materials and technologies that will allow higher education to continue advancing learning for all students via technology. _______________________________________________ Jarret S. Cummings Director of Policy and External Relations EDUCAUSE Uncommon Thinking for the Common Good 1150 18th Street, NW, Suite 900 Washington, DC 20036 direct: 202.331.5372 | main: 202.872.4200 | educause.edu ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. From jongund at illinois.edu Tue Sep 16 07:21:21 2014 From: jongund at illinois.edu (Gunderson, Jon R) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Opinion column about TEACH Act and Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <70326425-ED79-439F-BF07-753DCB47C647@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <46739F12637CC94E82F75FF874E4A1473649D04C@CITESMBX6.ad.uillinois.edu> I know Bruce Maas the CIO at the University of Wisconsin and an Educause board member was very interested in this issue. Maybe you could invite him to the next meeting to discuss the Educause position. Jon From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Terrill Thompson Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:06 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Opinion column about TEACH Act and Accessibility I too am confused about the relationship between TEACH and the HEA Reauthorization Bill. According to govtrack.us, the TEACH Act is still in committee: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s2060 If TEACH is still alive, that may just be a technicality since I suspect those who oppose the accessibility provisions of HEA would also oppose TEACH. Nevertheless, if anyone can shed light on how these bills relate to one another, that would be much appreciated. As for EDUCAUSE signing the ACE letter, that was a surprise to those of us who are active In the EDUCAUSE IT Accessibility Constituent Group. They made the determination that the accessible media-related provisions of HEA "create an impossible to meet standard for institutions" and "will seriously impede the development and adoption of accessible materials, harming the very students it is intended to assist" without consulting its resident community of experts. I suspect they probably knew the experts would disagree with these opinions. As Greg Kraus mentioned in another thread related to the EDUCAUSE conference, we're trying to get someone from EDUCAUSE to attend the IT Accessibility Constituent Group annual meeting to explain and defend their position. Terrill --- Terrill Thompson Technology Accessibility Specialist DO-IT, Accessible Technology Services UW Information Technology University of Washington tft@uw.edu On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Sean Keegan > wrote: I was a bit confused by the article in that the author references the TEACH Act several times, but the letter that ACE wrote to Senator Harkin is in reference to the Higher Education Affordability Act (HEAA) or HEA Reauthorization bill. The HEAA bill does contain most of the TEACH Act content, but there are some differences. One of the differences is in regards to non-compliant instructional materials - the HEAA stipulates that an institution of of higher ed which uses materials that are non-conforming to accessibility requirements would need to provide assurance to the Secretary that the instructional materials will be provided in an accessible format. See Sec. 931, (f) Noncompliant Instructional Materials (http://www.help.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HEAA%20Discussion%20Draft%20Language%206.25.14.pdf). I do not see this same language in the TEACH Act. I think there may also an issue regarding the definition of "electronic instructional materials." Perhaps it is defined elsewhere, but while the TEACH Act defines what it means by that terminology, there is no such definition in the HEAA bill. Yes, it is disappointing to see such a position taken by ACE and the other constituent groups. I was hoping that concerned language would have at least made it into the "Provisions Where Sectors Differ" section in the letter to Sen. Harkin. Clearly, it will require additional conversations with the major groups to develop better support for the instructional materials section. Take care, Sean On Sep 6, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Kathleen Cahill > wrote: Colleagues, Saw this article in the Boston Globe by the President of NFB of Massachusetts. He writes about the fact that ACE (American Council on Education) has been lobbying Congress not to pass the TEACH Act because of the burden that regulations around Accessible Instructional Materials would put on universities! http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/09/05/education-technology-college-lobbyists-are-keeping-disabled-students-behind/jQ8UFe44BeFBumbTTqBzFL/story.html?s_campaign=8315 Kathy Kathleen Cahill MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC) 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 (617) 253-5111 kcahill@mit.edu From: "ron@ahead.org" > Reply-To: Access Network > Date: Saturday, September 6, 2014 at 12:39 AM To: "john.gardner@oregonstate.edu" >, Access Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Evening John, just getting home. The only one that I am aware of is the TAMC tool that Kris Von See created. I am not aware of the licensing associated with it but would be more than happy to look into it. If there is an interest. It was really valuable in the early NIMAS days and actually something I still use when nothing else will work. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of John Gardner Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 5:04 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Ron, are there any open source scripts that convert MS Word XML to something more straightforward? Or even just algorithms. It would be nice to have something we could all standardize on. John From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:12 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Afternoon all, it was my understanding that they were using components of the DAISY Pipeline, which while close is not exactly the same thing. All the major converters that are using either have for the most part added custom scripting to standardize the output and avoid issues such as those caused in the proprietary markup that you will find in specific XML implementations such as that is found in Docx. Not sure if it makes any real difference to most of you but this has been one of the challenges that we have faced over the years as we have tried to move forward with a robust, standardized and easily implemented solution in the AIM space. XML is a specification but it can be implemented in a huge variety of ways and forms. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:07 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Hey there, Sean, According to the tech at Bookshare, they use the Save As DAISY plug-in. So not sure why we can't get it to work but they can. For GoRead, it doesn't want all the SMIL files either. But since we're swamped right now, I've moved on since my MacGyver solution has worked! But, if things ever slow down, I'll revisit the issue - unless someone else can figure out what we haven't. Wink, I SOOOO wish we had an easy button for conversion! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Sean Keegan > wrote: Hi Heidi, From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is lacking the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file? Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army knife if he did alt media production... Take care, Sean On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher > wrote: Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit along to our lab coordinator. I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in GoRead. Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now reads out loud in GoRead! Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! Thank you again one and all! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director Center for Educational Access University of Arkansas ARKU 104 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 479.575.7445 fax 479.575.3646 tdd +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart > wrote: That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no longer supporting it as far as I am aware. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion You can also use Tech Adapt?s free TAMC program: http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Sorensen Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion Hello Heidi, Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here?s a quick how-to? 1. Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted folder. 2. Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet browser (I recommend Firefox) 3. Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word processor. 4. Breathe easy XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I don?t think that is included in the Bookshare XML. I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn?t run successfully for me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those students. Hope this helps! Neal Sorensen Specialist of Assistive Technology Office of Disability Resources Naropa University: Boulder, CO nsorensen@naropa.edu Phone: 303-546-3560 The Machine is Us/ing Us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world?" Hi all, This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any luck getting that to work. Anyone have any ideas?? Thanks in advance!! 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URL: From karen.sorensen at pcc.edu Tue Sep 16 14:11:38 2014 From: karen.sorensen at pcc.edu (Karen Sorensen) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] TEACH Message-ID: Hi Ron, Terrill, Greg, Sean, and ATHENites, I've wondered since I first heard about TEACH from the NFB, why educators and administrators of higher ed weren't involved.(For one, we would have told them that there's already a TEACH act regarding copyright, frequently cited in distance learning and higher ed.) I am also highly suspicious when publishers are involved, but we who are legally required to provide an accessible learning experience are not. HEA and the ADA proposed amendment at least asked for our input. And what about the ADA web accessibility proposed amendment? Is that ever going to happen? How does it play into all of this? Here at PCC, we have started requiring an Equally Effective Access Plan for any online course that uses inaccessible 3rd party (often publisher) content. I ask the product reps to work with the instructor to come up with equally effective, accessible options that can be put into place immediately when they are needed. I want the product rep to be involved in the solution. And I consider their willingness to implement or help implement a solution in my assessment of the overall accessibility of the product. They need to help us solve the problem they create for us. IMHO, Karen Karen M. Sorensen www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 *"The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.?* Tim Berners-Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at nau.edu Tue Sep 16 14:26:23 2014 From: Teresa.Haven at nau.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] TEACH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FDA8275E@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Hi, Karen. I love your approach, and it?s along the lines of what we are also working towards here at Northern Arizona. Do you have a template, checklist, or other written guidance for producing the Equally Effective Access Plan? I?d like to compare notes, share information, and help others keep from having to ?re-invent the wheel? if they are also on this path. Even if the higher education lobby gets this legislation shot down, we need to keep on doing the right thing on the institutional level. Thanks, Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst, Northern Arizona University Co-Chair, AHEAD Standing Committee on Technology From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Sorensen Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:12 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] TEACH Hi Ron, Terrill, Greg, Sean, and ATHENites, I've wondered since I first heard about TEACH from the NFB, why educators and administrators of higher ed weren't involved.(For one, we would have told them that there's already a TEACH act regarding copyright, frequently cited in distance learning and higher ed.) I am also highly suspicious when publishers are involved, but we who are legally required to provide an accessible learning experience are not. HEA and the ADA proposed amendment at least asked for our input. And what about the ADA web accessibility proposed amendment? Is that ever going to happen? How does it play into all of this? Here at PCC, we have started requiring an Equally Effective Access Plan for any online course that uses inaccessible 3rd party (often publisher) content. I ask the product reps to work with the instructor to come up with equally effective, accessible options that can be put into place immediately when they are needed. I want the product rep to be involved in the solution. And I consider their willingness to implement or help implement a solution in my assessment of the overall accessibility of the product. They need to help us solve the problem they create for us. IMHO, Karen Karen M. Sorensen www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 "The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.? Tim Berners-Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lissner.2 at osu.edu Tue Sep 16 20:24:16 2014 From: lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, L S. (Scott )) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] TEACH In-Reply-To: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FDA8275E@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> References: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FDA8275E@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Message-ID: TEACH is not my ideal version of a bill for access to the curriculum but they did ask for input from AHEAD and number of other organizations and made a few changes in response. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 5:26 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] TEACH Hi, Karen. I love your approach, and it?s along the lines of what we are also working towards here at Northern Arizona. Do you have a template, checklist, or other written guidance for producing the Equally Effective Access Plan? I?d like to compare notes, share information, and help others keep from having to ?re-invent the wheel? if they are also on this path. Even if the higher education lobby gets this legislation shot down, we need to keep on doing the right thing on the institutional level. Thanks, Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst, Northern Arizona University Co-Chair, AHEAD Standing Committee on Technology From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Sorensen Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:12 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] TEACH Hi Ron, Terrill, Greg, Sean, and ATHENites, I've wondered since I first heard about TEACH from the NFB, why educators and administrators of higher ed weren't involved.(For one, we would have told them that there's already a TEACH act regarding copyright, frequently cited in distance learning and higher ed.) I am also highly suspicious when publishers are involved, but we who are legally required to provide an accessible learning experience are not. HEA and the ADA proposed amendment at least asked for our input. And what about the ADA web accessibility proposed amendment? Is that ever going to happen? How does it play into all of this? Here at PCC, we have started requiring an Equally Effective Access Plan for any online course that uses inaccessible 3rd party (often publisher) content. I ask the product reps to work with the instructor to come up with equally effective, accessible options that can be put into place immediately when they are needed. I want the product rep to be involved in the solution. And I consider their willingness to implement or help implement a solution in my assessment of the overall accessibility of the product. They need to help us solve the problem they create for us. IMHO, Karen Karen M. Sorensen www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 "The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.? 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I'd like to compare notes, share information, and help others keep from having to "re-invent the wheel" if they are also on this path. Even if the higher education lobby gets this legislation shot down, we need to keep on doing the right thing on the institutional level. Thanks, Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst, Northern Arizona University Co-Chair, AHEAD Standing Committee on Technology From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Sorensen Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:12 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] TEACH Hi Ron, Terrill, Greg, Sean, and ATHENites, I've wondered since I first heard about TEACH from the NFB, why educators and administrators of higher ed weren't involved.(For one, we would have told them that there's already a TEACH act regarding copyright, frequently cited in distance learning and higher ed.) I am also highly suspicious when publishers are involved, but we who are legally required to provide an accessible learning experience are not. HEA and the ADA proposed amendment at least asked for our input. And what about the ADA web accessibility proposed amendment? Is that ever going to happen? How does it play into all of this? Here at PCC, we have started requiring an Equally Effective Access Plan for any online course that uses inaccessible 3rd party (often publisher) content. I ask the product reps to work with the instructor to come up with equally effective, accessible options that can be put into place immediately when they are needed. I want the product rep to be involved in the solution. And I consider their willingness to implement or help implement a solution in my assessment of the overall accessibility of the product. They need to help us solve the problem they create for us. IMHO, Karen Karen M. Sorensen www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 "The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect." Tim Berners-Lee _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From koupe at di.uoa.gr Tue Sep 16 21:39:02 2014 From: koupe at di.uoa.gr (Georgios Kouroupetroglou) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] ICEAPVI-2015: International Conference on Enabling Access for Persons with Visual Impairment, call for papers In-Reply-To: <54055C8B.2060602@di.uoa.gr> References: <54055986.8060409@di.uoa.gr> <54055C8B.2060602@di.uoa.gr> Message-ID: <54191066.3080005@di.uoa.gr> > *ICEAPVI-2015* > > *International Conference on Enabling Access for Persons with Visual > Impairment* > > February 12-14, 2015, Athens, Greece > > http://access.uoa.gr/ICEAPVI-2015/ > > > ****************************************************** > > The *International Conference on Enabling Access for Persons with > Visual Impairment (ICEAPVI)* is an interdisciplinary scientific event, > where researchers in the domain of education, rehabilitation, > Information & Communication Technologies (ICT) as well as Assistive > Technologies for persons with blindness and low vision meet to present > and exchange their recent ideas and newest research. > > ICEAPVI-2015 will be held in Athens, Greece, between February 12-14, 2015. > > We invite researchers working in the domains for Persons with Visual > Impairment to submit papers for oral presentation or posters in the > areas of: > > * access to the learning, > * access to the interpersonal communication, > * access to the printed information, > * access to the electronic information and the WWW content, > * access to the recreation and leisure and > * access to the built environment. > > Extended deadline for submissions: October 15, 2014 > > ICEAPVI-2015 is co-organized by the National and Kapodistrian > University of Athens (Speech and Accessibility Laboratory, Department > of Informatics and Telecommunications) and the International Council > for Education and Rehabilitation of People with Visual Impairment- > Europe (ICEVI-Europe). > > Further information: http://access.uoa.gr/ICEAPVI-2015 > > Email: iceapvi@di.uoa.gr > > /The organizing committee of the ICEAPVI-2015/ > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg_kraus at ncsu.edu Fri Sep 19 07:14:05 2014 From: greg_kraus at ncsu.edu (Greg Kraus) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] EDUCAUSE and the TEACH Act Message-ID: Hi All, Please pardon any cross-postings. This issue has been raised on two accessibility lists that I am a member of so I am replying to both lists. Several questions and points have been raised on this issue, and I will try to address each of them from my perspective. Does EDUCAUSE support accessibility efforts? Yes, and I've been very happy with the support accessibility has received. Could EDUCAUSE do more? Of course, but I have no major complaints against them. There are people in senior leadership positions within EDUCAUSE who go out of their way to make sure accessibility interests are considered from policy statements, to conference programming, to outreach efforts. Was the IT Accessibility Constituent Group consulted by EDUCAUSE in regard to the TEACH Act? No, however, some accessibility specialists were. I was one of them. I was not speaking on behalf of the entire CG, but I was speaking as an accessibility expert in the field. I did not help write any of EDUCAUSE's position papers or responses. I simply provided input on my interpretation of the issues at hand. I am currently working on getting some EDUCAUSE representation at our Annual IT Accessibility Constituent Group meeting during the Annual Conference to discuss the issues more. What is your opinion about the TEACH Act and EDUCAUSE's response? In my opinion, the NFB TEACH Act gets many things right. Creating a standard, as recommended by the AIM Commission, would be a great step forward for accessibility. Making clear that "accessible" means delivering content in an "equally effective and equally integrated" manner with the "substantially equivalent ease of use" is a good thing so we don't have people trying to justify some type of "separate but equal" or worse, "lesser will be just fine" arrangement. Where the NFB TEACH Act falls short is in the scope of what this applies to. First, let me start by saying that the vast majority of electronic content is stuff we know how to make quite accessible, and it should be accessible - no questions asked. However, there are still aspects of electronic content that there are not good answers for how to make accessible. For example, how about an electronic chemistry textbook where there is an interactive 3D model of a compound? Can we make that fully accessible to a blind student? The language in the TEACH Act requires the content, or any alternative content we provide, to be "equally effective and equally integrated" and have the "substantially equivalent ease of use". Further, the TEACH Act requires that any accommodation we provide to access that content to also be "equally effective and equally integrated" and have the "substantially equivalent ease of use". If this were a paper textbook and there was an image of a 3D molecule, the accommodation might be for the student to meet with an assistant to build a 3D model. Because of the language of the TEACH Act, since this has now been implemented electronically, we must provide this content in an equally integrated manner with the equivalent ease of use. In this case a non-blind student could study the molecule in their electronic textbook at 2AM. Does the blind student have that option? This might sound nitpicky, and you might say, "But no one would expect that capability out of the electronic text book." The problem is the language in the TEACH Act does not allow for these edge cases where a reasonable accommodation might be needed. In fact, when the TEACH Act discusses accommodations, the word "reasonable" is never used. Maybe that's not the intention of the authors of this legislation, but that is one way you can interpret what is in the legislation. For the vast majority of what we do on campus "equally effective", "equally integrated" and with the "substantially equivalent ease of use" is an achievable goal with technology, but there are still aspects of online content that might not be able to ever reach this standard. The language in the TEACH Act sets up a binary situation for all of our electronic content - either we meet that standard or we face the consequences. Despite all of the possibilities digital content creates for people with disabilities to be able to more fully participate, just because something can be implemented electronically does not mean it can be made fully accessible. I believe if there was language in the legislation that recognized this reality, it would be embraced more readily by more organizations. Of course, what we have to guard against is someone arbitrarily declaring, "This technology can never be made accessible," and thus relegating someone to an inferior, and unequal experience. And we certainly cannot use this line of thought to justify laziness or a lack of commitment to make accessible educational materials for all people. Back to the chemistry example, 3D printing may be able to make this a far more equitable situation than was ever possible before, but the infrastructure and the standards needed to make that work from an electronic textbook are too nascent to make this a viable solution for all people at this time. We do have to guard against that thought that something can never be made accessible, because technology is making a lot of things possible, but we still need to be able to have that conversation of what is possible now, and what might be possible in the near future. Managing that point of tension is key to helping us move forward. I don't believe the current version of the TEACH Act gives us a way to have that conversation. Greg -- EDUCAUSE IT Accessibility CG Leader http://educause.edu/groups/itaccess From lissner.2 at osu.edu Fri Sep 19 08:23:16 2014 From: lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, L S. (Scott )) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] EDUCAUSE and the TEACH Act In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't post in this space often but I felt that sharing my agreement and disagreement with the statement below might be useful I agree; the TEACH Act falls short in a number of ways. as pointed out, one, is that it voices the broad civil rights mandate - equally effective access to the same interactions, the same services, in an integrated fashion and with substantially equivalent ease of use - that we see in recent resolutions from the Department's of Justice and Education without addressing content that challenges the limits to current programming, accessibility tools and technologies. It is in the nature of statutes to set broad national policy while agency regulations focus on the pragmatics of implementation. I know I would rather the staff at the Access Board write technology standards than Congress. Think about the legislative process for a moment . . . it would rely on vendors and special interest groups to draft technical standards. One of the things NFB did unusually well in proposing the TEACH Act was to point to the goal and point to a transparent process for developing standards rather than simply including their own version in the Proposed legislation. Finally I want to review a bit of history. Days shy of forty-one years ago, on September 23, 1973, President Nixon signed a reauthorization of the Rehabilitation Act that included the newly minted Section 504 which contained a broad mandate "provide equal access to all federally funded programs, services and benefits to otherwise qualified handicapped persons". 504 was 37 words long and if anything broader than what has been proposed in the TEACH Act. It was the regulations that addressed the competing equities and established the pragmatic balance points of "reasonable", "fundamental alteration", "undue administrative burden" and "undue financial burden". Where the NFB TEACH Act falls short is in the scope of what this applies to. First, let me start by saying that the vast majority of electronic content is stuff we know how to make quite accessible, and it should be accessible - no questions asked. However, there are still aspects of electronic content that there are not good answers for how to make accessible. For example, how about an electronic chemistry textbook where there is an interactive 3D model of a compound? Can we make that fully accessible to a blind student? The language in the TEACH Act requires the content, or any alternative content we provide, to be "equally effective and equally integrated" and have the "substantially equivalent ease of use". 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URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Mon Sep 22 09:17:59 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] TEACH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <105c01cfd680$c77b7ab0$56727010$@gmail.com> Morning all, Finally finding some time to respond to this, yes there is another TEACH act and for the most part it is irrelevant to the accessibility conversation. It was pointed out to NFB when they named this new TEACH Act of the conflict in names. The chose to pursue this language because it actually is an appropriate name, while the Teach Act Karen refers to is duplicative of many of the provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. That legislation is more directly related to the effective use of materials in the educational space and is more focused on the use of copyrighted content. As far as I am aware there is no ADA Web amendment proposed. Instead it is proposed at very high levels that it will be ruled that the public web is a place of public accommodation. Given the current mess in Washington, I would not hold my breath on this happening anytime soon just like actually seeing a NPRM on the 508 refresh. Regardless as far as public education agencies are concerned, their legal requirements already require a fully accessible web space, as has most recently been supported by several OCR settlement agreements. Karen it is great that this is now a requirement at PCC, over the years PCC has done a great job of forward thinking in regards to issues of access and accessibility. This is also the case at several other institutions as well, for almost 10 years Oregon State has actually required this off all significant curricular proposals when they are submitted to the campus curriculum committee. It is also something that I have promoted as a best practice for a number of years. I also agree that including the product rep is a good thing, unfortunately what history has shown us is that the product reps that you interact with at the campus level are often uniformed or in most instances Upper Management has given talking points and no real change is occurring. I am not saying it is not a good idea, but unfortunately in most instances the campus has been left with cleaning up the mess, and the only solution to this is to insure that you have an effective purchasing policy that clearly puts the requirement for accessibility on the part of the vendor. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Sorensen Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:12 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] TEACH Hi Ron, Terrill, Greg, Sean, and ATHENites, I've wondered since I first heard about TEACH from the NFB, why educators and administrators of higher ed weren't involved.(For one, we would have told them that there's already a TEACH act regarding copyright, frequently cited in distance learning and higher ed.) I am also highly suspicious when publishers are involved, but we who are legally required to provide an accessible learning experience are not. HEA and the ADA proposed amendment at least asked for our input. And what about the ADA web accessibility proposed amendment? Is that ever going to happen? How does it play into all of this? Here at PCC, we have started requiring an Equally Effective Access Plan for any online course that uses inaccessible 3rd party (often publisher) content. I ask the product reps to work with the instructor to come up with equally effective, accessible options that can be put into place immediately when they are needed. I want the product rep to be involved in the solution. And I consider their willingness to implement or help implement a solution in my assessment of the overall accessibility of the product. They need to help us solve the problem they create for us. IMHO, Karen Karen M. Sorensen www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 "The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.? Tim Berners-Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Mon Sep 22 11:41:44 2014 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Prof Norm Coombs) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] EASI Webinar Series in October on Creating Accessible EPUB documents Message-ID: <54206d96.1344b60a.47c5.50f9@mx.google.com> Fee-based Multi-part Series on Creating Accessible ePub3 Documents This 4-part Webinar series is a fee-based series, but it is free for EASI Annual Webinar members The registration fee for the series is $225, There is also a scholarship available for those unable to obtain the funds for the series: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm Week 1: Tobi, how to enhance accessibility of EPUB3 publications, with synchronised audio and image descriptions Presenters: Avneesh Singh: Project Manager, DAISY Consortium and Daniel Weck: System Architect, DAISY Consortium Tuesday, October 7: 11 Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 PM Eastern In this seminar, speakers will summarize the benefits of EPUB3 for accessible publishing. The presentation will describe how to add audio Media Overlays and image descriptions to existing mainstream e-books. This will be accompanied by live demonstrations, and the meeting will include an open Q&A session. Week 2: Using Word to Prepare a Document to be Converted into ePub3 Format Presenter: Karen McCall from Canada Tuesday, October 14: 11 Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 PM Eastern This week, Karen McCall, provides an overview of the elements of a well-structured Word document that can then be converted to other formats such as ePub with "relative" ease. Topics include proper use of headings, adding footnotes, endnotes, page numbers, lists, tables and providing Alternate text and captions for images. It is impossible to overemphasize the importance on clear structure that is accomplished by proper semantic markup. All of this is done behind the scene and is often ignored. Semantic markup guarantees that the document and the application used to display or convert work correctly. Looking good is enough enough for a good document. Week 3: Using RoboBraille to Convert Documents into ePub 3 Format Presenter Lars Ballieu Christensen from Denmark Tuesday, October 21: 11 Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 PM Eastern RoboBraille is an automated, self-service solution for people who need to convert documents into alternate formats. The service allows users to convert files in most common formats into audio books, digital braille books and ebooks. The service may also be used to convert otherwise inaccessible documents tricky documents into more accessible formats. At the webinar, Lars will walk you through the service and how it can be used. He will also talk about how universities and other academic institutions can use the SensusAccess interface to RoboBraille to provide a self-service alternate media solution for students, faculty and alumni. Week 4: What is ePub and How to Create ePub documents from Open office Presenter Norman Coombs Tuesday, October 28: 11 Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 PM Eastern Open Office is a free, open source suite of applications that fill similar functions to Microsoft Office. There are many free extensions to download that will extend the capabilities of Open Office. One extensions will let you save a document in the ePub format. In that regard it has similarities to the save as DAISY add-in for Word. EASI annual members register from the member-only page at: http://easi.cc/member/index.htm Non-members can register and pay online with a PO, credit card or check from the Webinar page: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm#october Non-members unable to obtain funding for the series should apply for the Dick Banks Memorial scholarship at: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm Fee-based Multi-part Series on Creating Accessible ePub3 Documents This 4-part Webinar series is a fee-based series, but it is free for EASI Annual Webinar members The registration fee for the series is $225, There is also a scholarship available for those unable to obtain the funds for the series: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm Week 1: Tobi, how to enhance accessibility of EPUB3 publications, with synchronised audio and image descriptions Presenters: Avneesh Singh: Project Manager, DAISY Consortium and Daniel Weck: System Architect, DAISY Consortium Tuesday, October 7: 11 Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 PM Eastern In this seminar, speakers will summarize the benefits of EPUB3 for accessible publishing. The presentation will describe how to add audio Media Overlays and image descriptions to existing mainstream e-books. This will be accompanied by live demonstrations, and the meeting will include an open Q&A session. Week 2: Using Word to Prepare a Document to be Converted into ePub3 Format Presenter: Karen McCall from Canada Tuesday, October 14: 11 Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 PM Eastern This week, Karen McCall, provides an overview of the elements of a well-structured Word document that can then be converted to other formats such as ePub with "relative" ease. Topics include proper use of headings, adding footnotes, endnotes, page numbers, lists, tables and providing Alternate text and captions for images. It is impossible to overemphasize the importance on clear structure that is accomplished by proper semantic markup. All of this is done behind the scene and is often ignored. Semantic markup guarantees that the document and the application used to display or convert work correctly. Looking good is enough enough for a good document. Week 3: Using RoboBraille to Convert Documents into ePub 3 Format Presenter Lars Ballieu Christensen from Denmark Tuesday, October 21: 11 Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 PM Eastern RoboBraille is an automated, self-service solution for people who need to convert documents into alternate formats. The service allows users to convert files in most common formats into audio books, digital braille books and ebooks. The service may also be used to convert otherwise inaccessible documents tricky documents into more accessible formats. At the webinar, Lars will walk you through the service and how it can be used. He will also talk about how universities and other academic institutions can use the SensusAccess interface to RoboBraille to provide a self-service alternate media solution for students, faculty and alumni. Week 4: What is ePub and How to Create ePub documents from Open office Presenter Norman Coombs Tuesday, October 28: 11 Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 PM Eastern Open Office is a free, open source suite of applications that fill similar functions to Microsoft Office. There are many free extensions to download that will extend the capabilities of Open Office. One extensions will let you save a document in the ePub format. In that regard it has similarities to the save as DAISY add-in for Word. EASI annual members register from the member-only page at: http://easi.cc/member/index.htm Non-members can register and pay online with a PO, credit card or check from the Webinar page: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm#october Non-members unable to obtain funding for the series should apply for the Dick Banks Memorial scholarship at: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm Fee-based Multi-part Series on Creating Accessible ePub3 Documents This 4-part Webinar series is a fee-based series, but it is free for EASI Annual Webinar members The registration fee for the series is $225, There is also a scholarship available for those unable to obtain the funds for the series: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm Week 1: Tobi, how to enhance accessibility of EPUB3 publications, with synchronised audio and image descriptions Presenters: Avneesh Singh: Project Manager, DAISY Consortium and Daniel Weck: System Architect, DAISY Consortium Tuesday, October 7: 11 Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 PM Eastern In this seminar, speakers will summarize the benefits of EPUB3 for accessible publishing. The presentation will describe how to add audio Media Overlays and image descriptions to existing mainstream e-books. This will be accompanied by live demonstrations, and the meeting will include an open Q&A session. Week 2: Using Word to Prepare a Document to be Converted into ePub3 Format Presenter: Karen McCall from Canada Tuesday, October 14: 11 Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 PM Eastern This week, Karen McCall, provides an overview of the elements of a well-structured Word document that can then be converted to other formats such as ePub with "relative" ease. Topics include proper use of headings, adding footnotes, endnotes, page numbers, lists, tables and providing Alternate text and captions for images. It is impossible to overemphasize the importance on clear structure that is accomplished by proper semantic markup. All of this is done behind the scene and is often ignored. Semantic markup guarantees that the document and the application used to display or convert work correctly. Looking good is enough enough for a good document. Week 3: Using RoboBraille to Convert Documents into ePub 3 Format Presenter Lars Ballieu Christensen from Denmark Tuesday, October 21: 11 Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 PM Eastern RoboBraille is an automated, self-service solution for people who need to convert documents into alternate formats. The service allows users to convert files in most common formats into audio books, digital braille books and ebooks. The service may also be used to convert otherwise inaccessible documents tricky documents into more accessible formats. At the webinar, Lars will walk you through the service and how it can be used. He will also talk about how universities and other academic institutions can use the SensusAccess interface to RoboBraille to provide a self-service alternate media solution for students, faculty and alumni. Week 4: What is ePub and How to Create ePub documents from Open office Presenter Norman Coombs Tuesday, October 28: 11 Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 PM Eastern Open Office is a free, open source suite of applications that fill similar functions to Microsoft Office. There are many free extensions to download that will extend the capabilities of Open Office. One extensions will let you save a document in the ePub format. In that regard it has similarities to the save as DAISY add-in for Word. EASI annual members register from the member-only page at: http://easi.cc/member/index.htm Non-members can register and pay online with a PO, credit card or check from the Webinar page: http://easi.cc/clinic.htm#october Non-members unable to obtain funding for the series should apply for the Dick Banks Memorial scholarship at: http://easi.cc/scholarship.htm From karen.sorensen at pcc.edu Mon Sep 22 17:30:24 2014 From: karen.sorensen at pcc.edu (Karen Sorensen) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] TEACH Message-ID: Hi Ron, Here is the ADA amendment that addresses web accessibility that I was referring to. Thanks for the reply! Best, Karen Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 *"The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.?* Tim Berners-Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(Scott )) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] TEACH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9AB54D35-3049-42BD-A501-F7B838740EE7@osu.edu> The notice of proposed rule making is promising but it has been pushed back on DOJ's legislative agenda a number of times. Currently March 2015 is their stated target date for releasing final regulations for public comment. Unfortunately it is not a firm date. L. Scott Lissner, Ohio State University ADA Coordinator, Office Of Diversity And Inclusion Associate, John Glenn School of Public Affairs Lecturer, Knowlton School of Architecture, Moritz College of Law & Disability Studies Board, Center for Disability Empowerment Appointed, Ohio Governor's Council For People With Disabilities, State HAVA Committee & Columbus Advisory Council on Disability Issues (614) 292-6207(v); (614) 688-8605(tty) (614) 688-3665(fax); Http://ada.osu.edu 281 W. Lane Ave, Columbus, OH 43210-1266 On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:33 PM, "Karen Sorensen" > wrote: Hi Ron, Here is the ADA amendment that addresses web accessibility that I was referring to. Thanks for the reply! Best, Karen Karen M. Sorensen Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses www.pcc.edu/access Portland Community College 971-722-4720 "The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.? Tim Berners-Lee _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please see the link below: https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2014/09/23/essay-support-teach-act ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges De Anza College, Cupertino, CA www.htctu.net 408-996-6047 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you would like to schedule a site visit, training, or phone consultation, please contact HTCTU Secretary, Jasper Haze at jhaze@htctu.net or 408-996-4636; to ensure that priority e-mails are seen, please copy Jasper on important and time-sensitive matters. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know some of you are only allowed to attend one conference per year, and in terms of return on investment, I would really urge you to consider making it AHG. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: Howard Kramer [mailto:howard@colorado-atconference.ccsend.com] On Behalf Of Howard Kramer Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:47 AM To: gdietrich@htctu.net Subject: AHG 2014 - Early Bird Registration Ends Tommorow Having trouble viewing this email? Webpage Version Hi, just a reminder that you're receiving this email because you have expressed an interest in Accessing Higher Ground. Don't forget to add hkramer@ahead.org to your address book so we'll be sure to land in your inbox! You may unsubscribe if you no longer wish to receive our emails. Early Bird Registration for Accessing Higher Ground 2014 ends tomorrow! 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Best, Jennifer From Teresa.Haven at nau.edu Tue Sep 23 13:03:33 2014 From: Teresa.Haven at nau.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] iclicker go accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FDA8C218@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Hi, James. I have talked with the company several times regarding other products of theirs, but I have not had an opportunity to test the app myself on an iPhone. The company has assured me in detail that the app is fully accessible using VoiceOver. We have had good interactions with the company on all our other accessibility questions, so I would be willing to take their word for this. If someone else has experience with the app, and it's negative, I'd like to hear it. Thanks, Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst, Northern Arizona University Co-Chair, AHEAD Standing Committee on Technology From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of James Bailey Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 12:54 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] iclicker go accessibility Hello All, I am supporting a student who is blind who will be using iclickers in a class. I am hoping the iphone version of iclickego is accessible. Does anyone have experience with this? Thanks, James James Bailey M.S. Associate Director Accessible Education Center University of Oregon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JAsuncion at dawsoncollege.qc.ca Tue Sep 23 13:38:23 2014 From: JAsuncion at dawsoncollege.qc.ca (Jennison Asuncion) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] another TEACH article Message-ID: Hi, Here's more coverage. Higher ed associations, disability rights groups clash over campus technology standards https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/09/19/higher-ed-associations-disability-rights-groups-clash-over-campus-technology Jennison Jennison Mark Asuncion Co-Director, Adaptech Research Network http://www.adaptech.org LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/jennison Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/jennison Accessibility Camp Toronto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeP5Kl4GDgA From mantle.doug at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 20:37:59 2014 From: mantle.doug at gmail.com (Doug Mantle) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Purchase extra voices for Kurzweil 3000? Message-ID: <54223ca1.a74e320a.2101.ffffe7c4@mx.google.com> Good day, Wondering if anyone has any experience with adding additional voices to Kurzweil 3000... I am hoping for some options for both PC and MAC that are either reasonably priced or ideally free. Any input is very much appreciated! Doug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From moorec at cochise.edu Wed Sep 24 08:22:38 2014 From: moorec at cochise.edu (Moore, Corinna) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Purchase extra voices for Kurzweil 3000? In-Reply-To: <54223ca1.a74e320a.2101.ffffe7c4@mx.google.com> References: <54223ca1.a74e320a.2101.ffffe7c4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <3F818A6F3A8E294C90DB3C793E24113472E939E7@Email1.cochise.edu> K3000 version 14 comes with an additional CD with several added voices. What version are you running? Corinna From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Doug Mantle Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:38 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Purchase extra voices for Kurzweil 3000? Good day, Wondering if anyone has any experience with adding additional voices to Kurzweil 3000... I am hoping for some options for both PC and MAC that are either reasonably priced or ideally free. Any input is very much appreciated! Doug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tschwanke at studentlife.wisc.edu Wed Sep 24 11:07:23 2014 From: tschwanke at studentlife.wisc.edu (Todd Schwanke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Pearson Mastering (Chemistry) & Dragon Dictate 4 for Mac extension conflicts Message-ID: <0NCF00I653OCNT30@smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu> ATHEN: Checking to see if anyone else is also experiencing conflicts between the Dragon Dictate 4 extensions for Safari/Firefox and Pearson's Mastering Chemistry (or similar Pearson products). And if so, have found fixes or a work around? It does not happen 100% of the time, but what we have experienced is that when these extensions are enabled that the equation toolbar for each problem does not appear/load and you cannot use the mouse to click into the text fields where you put the answers. Inactivating the extensions and reloading the pages fixes the problems right away without restarting the browser. Clearing the cache in Firefox seems to very temporarily remedy the problem. With the extensions turned off you can still do some dictation into the application, but you lose the ability to navigate pages by "Show Links" or the names of the links. I have not had a chance to test whether the same types of issues occur with Naturally Speaking. Thanks, Todd Schwanke McBurney Disability Resource Center UW-Madison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The > instructor said they generally give directions based on either the TI 83 or > 84 models, but students can use whatever they have. > > > > Any ideas that would fit this bill? Thanks. > > > > > > Robert Lee Beach > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Kansas City Kansas Community College > > 7250 State Avenue > > Kansas City, KS 66112 > > 913-288-7671 > > rbeach@kckcc.edu > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Thu Sep 25 06:42:50 2014 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessible calculator for linear regression In-Reply-To: References: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846C154200@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA846C15422B@EROS.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Thanks for the link. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:35 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] accessible calculator for linear regression From APH: https://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11051&storeId=10001&krypto=VAuzor%2BmcKMm2FaYE0Jhr1sW3O%2BqFjWdBZ5c6cJ7PQqK1RsoKUyxIU%2B6r2awCCpxTvbDl4lZbkhZ4E7UNPHl%2FoLPSPQN1GDlXGCoVSh2YckUmU7G%2BkP%2BbJvlf7AzfX7povAaGBbpG2MWqWlHhOHlgOIAPL4VTuNt3CHbqoU9wtQe2bN%2BxbttuVE07exi33HYNhfs9vZBKs2t2kAJXc4dSeIQ08xUe6z7jNk5jCTBkxs%3D&ddkey=http:ProductDisplay Ron On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Robert Beach > wrote: Hi all, I have two visually impaired students in college algebra. They need to use an accessible calculator for linear regression problems. The instructor said they generally give directions based on either the TI 83 or 84 models, but students can use whatever they have. Any ideas that would fit this bill? Thanks. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 913-288-7671 rbeach@kckcc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Teresa.Haven at nau.edu Fri Sep 26 09:26:49 2014 From: Teresa.Haven at nau.edu (Teresa Haven) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Google Docs accessibility updates Message-ID: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FDA9042C@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Has anyone run Google Docs through its accessibility paces in the last few days, since Google announced improved accessibility of the service? So far I haven't perceived any significant improvements, but I'd like to hear other experiences. 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URL: From burke at ucla.edu Fri Sep 26 14:04:48 2014 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] SPSS In-Reply-To: <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FDA90BE4@umbrella.nau.froot. nau.edu> References: <84A066196BA6E54AB3C51373309B728FE51B5796@msgdb10.utad.utoledo.edu> <8B17405CDE724049BFD78BFBC560F1FDA90BE4@umbrella.nau.froot.nau.edu> Message-ID: <201409262104.s8QL4m96003769@mail.ucla.edu> Hi Andrea, I now notice you didn't mention what type of disability your student has. Here's the story for blind users: I have only done very brief testing myself. Overall, the track record is pretty much what Teresa describes. :( A few specific points, mostly contributed by a kind off-list replier, from when I asked about SPSS a year or so ago. 1: The Java Access Bridge has to be enabled for Jaws to communicate with SPSS. From the Command-line, go to your jre7\bin directory, then enter the command: jabswitch -enable 2: Link to IBM documentation : > Note: The instructions also apply for SPSS 21 (presumably 22 also?), & it now works with 64-bit Windows. (File paths should reference your SPSS version number.) Also, ignore the "linux" in the link above: the document has info for Windows & Mac. There are three key steps: turning on Jaws access within SPSS; copying over a properties file; copying the SPSS dictionary file for Jaws into the right folder. 3: The keyboard command that is supposed to move the cursor into the data display area is: Tab > DownArrow. Or, from the menu system: Data Menu > Goto Case > case 1 4: Just a warning, if things continue not to work: Installation order may be the problem. SPSS may need to be reinstalled after Jaws is configured (for example, first install Jaws, set up the braille display, then install SPSS). From the original email: "JAWS seems to be extraordinarily sensitive, and any modifications to it should be done BEFORE SPSS21 is installed. If you change any JAWS parameters, you may need to entirely de-install SPSS21 and re-install it to get it to run at all (I assume its waiting for some response from Java or JAWS it isn't getting, and so doesn't load.)" 5: If necessary, for tech support from IBM, the address is: spss_support@ecurep.ibm.com (tell them you've already read the document linked above.) ... Given all these difficulties, the R stats package may be a better alternative. But this would require reworking the course material to focus on the basic stats concepts, rather than SPSS-specific features. : http://www.r-project.org/ At 01:02 PM 9/26/2014, Teresa Haven wrote: >Hi, Andrea. I'm currently working with a student attempting to use >SPSS 22, JAWS 14 or 15 (he has tried both) and Windows 8 or 7 (he >has tried both). His best results have come with Windows 7 and JAWS >14, but we have found the program to still be highly unstable when >JAWS is in use. When it works, it works pretty well, but he >generally can only complete a few commands before SPSS stops >responding and his only option is to kill SPSS, restart, and do a >few more steps. If anyone else has suggestions on how to make the >two work better together, we would love to hear it. > >Thanks, > >Teresa Haven, Ph.D. >Accessibility Analyst, Northern Arizona University >Co-Chair, AHEAD Standing Committee on Technology > > > >From: athen-list >[mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of >Engle, Andrea June >Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 12:52 PM >To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >Subject: [Athen] SPSS > >We have a student that needs to use SPSS for a class. Does anyone >know about the accessibility of the program? > > > > > >Thank you, >Andrea Engle >Academic Accommodation Specialist >Student Disability Services >The University of Toledo >2801 W. Bancroft St. MS#342 >Toledo, OH 43606-3390 >Phone: 419-530-4981 > > >_______________________________________________ >athen-list mailing list >athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke@ucla.edu Location: 4909 Math Science Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu From danc at uw.edu Fri Sep 26 17:00:07 2014 From: danc at uw.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Call for nominations: ATHEN Board positions Message-ID: Greetings and happy Friday! We will be holding elections for two upcoming open positions on the ATHEN executive board. Elections will be held in October so we can have them filled at the annual meeting at Accessing Higher Ground in November. I'm on the nomination committee and am seeking: 1. Fellow members to assist with nominations and elections. 2. We are accepting nominations for the positions of President and Secretary. Currently Sean Keegan is standing for election for president. The term for each position is two years. Meetings are approximately monthly and held via teleconference when it is not possible to meet in person. This is a great opportunity to contribute to our professional organization. To stand for election, you must be a current member. In order to vote, professional membership or designated institutional voting member is required. See the bylaws for complete eligibility and voting information. ATHEN Bylaws: http://www.athenpro.org/node/3 Thanks, I look forward to receiving nominees. -- -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ University of Washington UW Information Technology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsuttondc at gmail.com Sun Sep 28 15:46:13 2014 From: jsuttondc at gmail.com (Jennifer Sutton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] University of California, Merced Contracts to Deploy AudioEye's Audio Internet(R) Accessibility Technology Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20140928154442.05ecc9b0@gmail.com> ATHENites: I thought this was an interesting decision. University of California, Merced Contracts to Deploy AudioEye's Audio Internet(R) Accessibility Technology http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/university-california-merced-contracts-deploy-audioeyes-audio-internetr-accessibility-otcqb-aeye-1949300.htm From blrichwine at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 10:43:37 2014 From: blrichwine at gmail.com (Brian Richwine) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone have knowledge of an accessible EPUB reader on iOS/VoiceOver (or any platform for that matter) that supports multilingual access, including a mix of directional languages? If it could work on iOS, I suppose we'd support any other file format that would be accessible and could be converted from a Word document. We have a student that is blind, a native Arabic speaker, and does not want to use desktop screen-reading software since his iPhone natively supports Arabic TTS. We've been converting his materials by editing in Word documents, and then converting them to the EPUB format. The student opens the materials in iBooks on his phone. This has been going splendidly for books that are in all one language. However, the student is studying languages and many of the materials he needs make extensive use of two or more languages. We've checked the underlying HTML, metadata files, etc. in the EPUBs we are creating. They seem to have the proper language markup around the changes (span elements with lang attributes as expected). However, none of the EPUB readers (accessible and with TTS) for iOS are handling the language changes. It appears that for iBooks, at least, that this is currently by design. The iBooks Asset Guide speaks of "The language of your book" (as in singular language, pg. 19 of the iBooks Asset Guide 5.1 R2). To complicate it, many of the texts switch between left-to-right languages and right-to-left languages. Often many times in a given line. Thanks! Brian Richwine Manager, UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University ? Bloomington / Indianapolis http://iuadapts.iu.edu (812) 856-2757 [Direct Line] (812) 856-4112 [Office Number] brichwin@iu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 10:49:43 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Unfortunately not that I am aware of. Aside from this issue is that iBooks is actually an Apple proprietary reading platform. The student may not have an option to move to a real computer reading platform, and also to Windows. Have you tried converting to XHTML instead of to ePub, not sure if it will work either but since the tagging is already there it may be worth a try. Ron Stewart On Monday, September 29, 2014, Brian Richwine wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone have knowledge of an accessible EPUB reader on iOS/VoiceOver > (or any platform for that matter) that supports multilingual access, > including a mix of directional languages? If it could work on iOS, I > suppose we'd support any other file format that would be accessible and > could be converted from a Word document. > > We have a student that is blind, a native Arabic speaker, and does not > want to use desktop screen-reading software since his iPhone natively > supports Arabic TTS. > > We've been converting his materials by editing in Word documents, and > then converting them to the EPUB format. The student opens the materials in > iBooks on his phone. > > This has been going splendidly for books that are in all one language. > However, the student is studying languages and many of the materials he > needs make extensive use of two or more languages. > > We've checked the underlying HTML, metadata files, etc. in the EPUBs we > are creating. They seem to have the proper language markup around the > changes (span elements with lang attributes as expected). However, none of > the EPUB readers (accessible and with TTS) for iOS are handling the > language changes. > > It appears that for iBooks, at least, that this is currently by design. > The iBooks Asset Guide speaks of "The language of your book" (as in > singular language, pg. 19 of the iBooks Asset Guide 5.1 R2). > > To complicate it, many of the texts switch between left-to-right > languages and right-to-left languages. Often many times in a given line. > > Thanks! > Brian Richwine > > > > Manager, UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers > > Indiana University ? Bloomington / Indianapolis > > http://iuadapts.iu.edu > > (812) 856-2757 [Direct Line] > > (812) 856-4112 [Office Number] > > brichwin@iu.edu > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blrichwine at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 11:24:52 2014 From: blrichwine at gmail.com (Brian Richwine) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Ron, We haven't tried XHTML or even HTML. I'll give that a shot. We should have thought of that... if we can get the file to open in Safari on his iPhone, then I'm reasonably sure VoiceOver with Safari will handle the language changes. Thanks again, Ron! On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Ron wrote: > Unfortunately not that I am aware of. Aside from this issue is that iBooks > is actually an Apple proprietary reading platform. The student may not have > an option to move to a real computer reading platform, and also to Windows. > > > Have you tried converting to XHTML instead of to ePub, not sure if it will > work either but since the tagging is already there it may be worth a try. > > Ron Stewart > > > On Monday, September 29, 2014, Brian Richwine > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Does anyone have knowledge of an accessible EPUB reader on >> iOS/VoiceOver (or any platform for that matter) that supports multilingual >> access, including a mix of directional languages? If it could work on iOS, >> I suppose we'd support any other file format that would be accessible and >> could be converted from a Word document. >> >> We have a student that is blind, a native Arabic speaker, and does not >> want to use desktop screen-reading software since his iPhone natively >> supports Arabic TTS. >> >> We've been converting his materials by editing in Word documents, and >> then converting them to the EPUB format. The student opens the materials in >> iBooks on his phone. >> >> This has been going splendidly for books that are in all one language. >> However, the student is studying languages and many of the materials he >> needs make extensive use of two or more languages. >> >> We've checked the underlying HTML, metadata files, etc. in the EPUBs we >> are creating. They seem to have the proper language markup around the >> changes (span elements with lang attributes as expected). However, none of >> the EPUB readers (accessible and with TTS) for iOS are handling the >> language changes. >> >> It appears that for iBooks, at least, that this is currently by design. >> The iBooks Asset Guide speaks of "The language of your book" (as in >> singular language, pg. 19 of the iBooks Asset Guide 5.1 R2). >> >> To complicate it, many of the texts switch between left-to-right >> languages and right-to-left languages. Often many times in a given line. >> >> Thanks! >> Brian Richwine >> >> >> >> Manager, UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers >> >> Indiana University ? Bloomington / Indianapolis >> >> http://iuadapts.iu.edu >> >> (812) 856-2757 [Direct Line] >> >> (812) 856-4112 [Office Number] >> >> brichwin@iu.edu >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 11:35:49 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Please let us know your outcomes. Multilingual support is something I have been interested in for quite some time, and something that was very high on customer wish lists when I ran Dolphin USA. I would also try it on a full size system. I have some concerns the resource overhead will be pretty high and that may break fluidity of audio rendering. Ron On Monday, September 29, 2014, Brian Richwine wrote: > Thanks Ron, > > We haven't tried XHTML or even HTML. I'll give that a shot. We should have > thought of that... if we can get the file to open in Safari on his iPhone, > then I'm reasonably sure VoiceOver with Safari will handle the language > changes. > > Thanks again, Ron! > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Ron > wrote: > >> Unfortunately not that I am aware of. Aside from this issue is that >> iBooks is actually an Apple proprietary reading platform. The student may >> not have an option to move to a real computer reading platform, and also to >> Windows. >> >> Have you tried converting to XHTML instead of to ePub, not sure if it >> will work either but since the tagging is already there it may be worth a >> try. >> >> Ron Stewart >> >> >> On Monday, September 29, 2014, Brian Richwine > > wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Does anyone have knowledge of an accessible EPUB reader on >>> iOS/VoiceOver (or any platform for that matter) that supports multilingual >>> access, including a mix of directional languages? If it could work on iOS, >>> I suppose we'd support any other file format that would be accessible and >>> could be converted from a Word document. >>> >>> We have a student that is blind, a native Arabic speaker, and does not >>> want to use desktop screen-reading software since his iPhone natively >>> supports Arabic TTS. >>> >>> We've been converting his materials by editing in Word documents, and >>> then converting them to the EPUB format. The student opens the materials in >>> iBooks on his phone. >>> >>> This has been going splendidly for books that are in all one language. >>> However, the student is studying languages and many of the materials he >>> needs make extensive use of two or more languages. >>> >>> We've checked the underlying HTML, metadata files, etc. in the EPUBs >>> we are creating. They seem to have the proper language markup around the >>> changes (span elements with lang attributes as expected). However, none of >>> the EPUB readers (accessible and with TTS) for iOS are handling the >>> language changes. >>> >>> It appears that for iBooks, at least, that this is currently by >>> design. The iBooks Asset Guide speaks of "The language of your book" (as in >>> singular language, pg. 19 of the iBooks Asset Guide 5.1 R2). >>> >>> To complicate it, many of the texts switch between left-to-right >>> languages and right-to-left languages. Often many times in a given line. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Brian Richwine >>> >>> >>> >>> Manager, UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers >>> >>> Indiana University ? Bloomington / Indianapolis >>> >>> http://iuadapts.iu.edu >>> >>> (812) 856-2757 [Direct Line] >>> >>> (812) 856-4112 [Office Number] >>> >>> brichwin@iu.edu >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu >> >> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at ucla.edu Mon Sep 29 11:48:22 2014 From: burke at ucla.edu (Patrick Burke) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201409291848.s8TImMYR019080@mail.ucla.edu> Hi Brian, I haven't experimented with multilingual files in Voice Dream, but that may be worth a try, esp if voice quality is an issue. There are 4 Arabic samples to choose from.: http://www.voicedream.com/features/voices/ Perhaps contact Winston Chen with this question (Twitter: @VoiceDreamApp ) Patrick At 10:43 AM 9/29/2014, Brian Richwine wrote: >Hi, > >? Does anyone have knowledge of an accessible >EPUB reader on iOS/VoiceOver (or any platform >for that matter) that supports multilingual >access, including a mix of directional >languages? If it could work on iOS, I suppose >we'd support any other file format that would be >accessible and could be converted from a Word document. > >? We have a student that is blind, a native >Arabic speaker, and does not want to use desktop >screen-reading software since his iPhone natively supports Arabic TTS. > >? We've been converting his materials by editing >in Word documents, and then converting them to >the EPUB format. The student opens the materials in iBooks on his phone. > >? This has been going splendidly for books that >are in all one language. However, the student is >studying languages and many of the materials he >needs make extensive use of two or more languages.? > >? We've checked the underlying HTML, metadata >files, etc. in the EPUBs we are creating. They >seem to have the proper language markup around >the changes (span elements with lang attributes >as expected). However, none of the EPUB readers >(accessible and with TTS) for iOS are handling the language changes. > >? It appears that for iBooks, at least, that >this is currently by design. The iBooks Asset >Guide speaks of "The language of your book" (as >in singular language, pg. 19 of the iBooks Asset Guide 5.1 R2). > >? To complicate it, many of the texts switch >between left-to-right languages and >right-to-left languages. Often many times in a given line. > >Thanks! >? Brian Richwine > >? > >Manager, UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers > >Indiana University ? Bloomington / Indianapoolis > >http://iuadapts.iu.edu > >(812) 856-2757 [Direct Line] > >(812) 856-4112 [Office Number] > >brichwin@iu.edu -- Patrick J. Burke Coordinator UCLA Disabilities & Computing Program Phone: 310 206-6004 E-mail: burke@ucla.edu Location: 4909 Math Science Department Contact: dcp@oit.ucla.edu From kerscher at montana.com Mon Sep 29 11:52:51 2014 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <010101cfdc16$92931e20$b7b95a60$@montana.com> Hi, If you look at epubtest.org, you would find a list of readers and in the test suite, there are tests for right to left readers. I would try the EPUBs you created to see if they change language on the fly. My guess, and we have not tested for this specifically that Readium for Chrome under Windows using JFW or NVDA would work the best. Also, look at Vital Source. Oh, and it may make a difference if the language change is on a block element, like a paragraph and not on a span. Let me know how this goes. Best George From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Richwine Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 11:44 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? Hi, Does anyone have knowledge of an accessible EPUB reader on iOS/VoiceOver (or any platform for that matter) that supports multilingual access, including a mix of directional languages? If it could work on iOS, I suppose we'd support any other file format that would be accessible and could be converted from a Word document. We have a student that is blind, a native Arabic speaker, and does not want to use desktop screen-reading software since his iPhone natively supports Arabic TTS. We've been converting his materials by editing in Word documents, and then converting them to the EPUB format. The student opens the materials in iBooks on his phone. This has been going splendidly for books that are in all one language. However, the student is studying languages and many of the materials he needs make extensive use of two or more languages. We've checked the underlying HTML, metadata files, etc. in the EPUBs we are creating. They seem to have the proper language markup around the changes (span elements with lang attributes as expected). However, none of the EPUB readers (accessible and with TTS) for iOS are handling the language changes. It appears that for iBooks, at least, that this is currently by design. The iBooks Asset Guide speaks of "The language of your book" (as in singular language, pg. 19 of the iBooks Asset Guide 5.1 R2). To complicate it, many of the texts switch between left-to-right languages and right-to-left languages. Often many times in a given line. Thanks! Brian Richwine Manager, UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University ? Bloomington / Indianapolis http://iuadapts.iu.edu (812) 856-2757 [Direct Line] (812) 856-4112 [Office Number] brichwin@iu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 14:12:20 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? In-Reply-To: <010101cfdc16$92931e20$b7b95a60$@montana.com> References: <010101cfdc16$92931e20$b7b95a60$@montana.com> Message-ID: <0b2201cfdc2a$0f20aad0$2d620070$@gmail.com> Good advice George, I have been playing with epubtest.org and it at least does some of the validation grunt work. In my thinking through the parsing issues with properly tagged code I am wondering if it can be done on the fly without some kind of a toggle initiated to go from left to right to right to left. Secondly would be the transition from romance based languages to more symbolic type languages such as Farsi or Arabic. Here is my thought, a reading system that would pick up the lang tagging and announce it with the user then using a quick keystroke combination to switch the user agent to the new language. Not elegant I know, but nothing in this space has ever been elegant. There is clearly the potential in the rich semantic markup that is possible in XML, and has been for years, but I am yet to see a reader system that can actually deliver it. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:53 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? Hi, If you look at epubtest.org, you would find a list of readers and in the test suite, there are tests for right to left readers. I would try the EPUBs you created to see if they change language on the fly. My guess, and we have not tested for this specifically that Readium for Chrome under Windows using JFW or NVDA would work the best. Also, look at Vital Source. Oh, and it may make a difference if the language change is on a block element, like a paragraph and not on a span. Let me know how this goes. Best George From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Richwine Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 11:44 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? Hi, Does anyone have knowledge of an accessible EPUB reader on iOS/VoiceOver (or any platform for that matter) that supports multilingual access, including a mix of directional languages? If it could work on iOS, I suppose we'd support any other file format that would be accessible and could be converted from a Word document. We have a student that is blind, a native Arabic speaker, and does not want to use desktop screen-reading software since his iPhone natively supports Arabic TTS. We've been converting his materials by editing in Word documents, and then converting them to the EPUB format. The student opens the materials in iBooks on his phone. This has been going splendidly for books that are in all one language. However, the student is studying languages and many of the materials he needs make extensive use of two or more languages. We've checked the underlying HTML, metadata files, etc. in the EPUBs we are creating. They seem to have the proper language markup around the changes (span elements with lang attributes as expected). However, none of the EPUB readers (accessible and with TTS) for iOS are handling the language changes. It appears that for iBooks, at least, that this is currently by design. The iBooks Asset Guide speaks of "The language of your book" (as in singular language, pg. 19 of the iBooks Asset Guide 5.1 R2). To complicate it, many of the texts switch between left-to-right languages and right-to-left languages. Often many times in a given line. Thanks! Brian Richwine Manager, UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University ? Bloomington / Indianapolis http://iuadapts.iu.edu (812) 856-2757 [Direct Line] (812) 856-4112 [Office Number] brichwin@iu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 14:26:32 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0b2f01cfdc2c$0ad1ff40$2075fdc0$@gmail.com> Just further thinking on this, obviously you have perked my interest since this is a challenge I attempted to resolve several years ago with a certain commercial vendor. The underlying XML tagging structure includes the proper semantic markup based on what you have shared. So some thoughts to ponder on this wonderful Fall afternoon, before I get back on Spydee and ride ride ride. :-) Could you use Webkit to do an implementation on the Mac that built on the lang tag presentation to provide a key that was presented to the user to toggle/switch upon prompt?. You would need a different, though not too dissimilar implementation on iOS but there are also some significant hardware limitations as well. Some have suggested using Chrome in a non-native Chrome browser and I wonder how disruptive that would be in the reading experience. A Chrome on Chrome implementation would make more sense in my mind since that is the direction that Google has been going on for years. I am thinking each implementation of such a technique would need to be platform dependent due to the underlying heuristics and hardware limitations imposed on switching from font face to another and one TTS engine to another. On the Win platform it seems it would be much more doable in the Firefox/Mozilla space if they actually ever get back to getting their act together in regards to audio support. Thinking out loud here boys and girls, please let me know where I am wrong in my thinking but if nothing else my very experienced brain cells are energized. Cheers! From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Richwine Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:25 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? Thanks Ron, We haven't tried XHTML or even HTML. I'll give that a shot. We should have thought of that... if we can get the file to open in Safari on his iPhone, then I'm reasonably sure VoiceOver with Safari will handle the language changes. Thanks again, Ron! On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Ron wrote: Unfortunately not that I am aware of. Aside from this issue is that iBooks is actually an Apple proprietary reading platform. The student may not have an option to move to a real computer reading platform, and also to Windows. Have you tried converting to XHTML instead of to ePub, not sure if it will work either but since the tagging is already there it may be worth a try. Ron Stewart On Monday, September 29, 2014, Brian Richwine wrote: Hi, Does anyone have knowledge of an accessible EPUB reader on iOS/VoiceOver (or any platform for that matter) that supports multilingual access, including a mix of directional languages? If it could work on iOS, I suppose we'd support any other file format that would be accessible and could be converted from a Word document. We have a student that is blind, a native Arabic speaker, and does not want to use desktop screen-reading software since his iPhone natively supports Arabic TTS. We've been converting his materials by editing in Word documents, and then converting them to the EPUB format. The student opens the materials in iBooks on his phone. This has been going splendidly for books that are in all one language. However, the student is studying languages and many of the materials he needs make extensive use of two or more languages. We've checked the underlying HTML, metadata files, etc. in the EPUBs we are creating. They seem to have the proper language markup around the changes (span elements with lang attributes as expected). However, none of the EPUB readers (accessible and with TTS) for iOS are handling the language changes. It appears that for iBooks, at least, that this is currently by design. The iBooks Asset Guide speaks of "The language of your book" (as in singular language, pg. 19 of the iBooks Asset Guide 5.1 R2). To complicate it, many of the texts switch between left-to-right languages and right-to-left languages. Often many times in a given line. Thanks! Brian Richwine Manager, UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University ? Bloomington / Indianapolis http://iuadapts.iu.edu (812) 856-2757 [Direct Line] (812) 856-4112 [Office Number] brichwin@iu.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsuttondc at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 15:55:44 2014 From: jsuttondc at gmail.com (Jennifer Sutton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS Accessibility Waiver for E-Readers Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20140929155401.05dc3900@gmail.com> Fyi, for Any ATHENites who've not already seen this. >From: AccessInfo >Subject: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS Accessibility > Waiver for E-Readers >Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:44:18 +0000 > >Comment Deadline: October 27, 2014 >Reply Comment Deadline: November 5, 2014 > >On September 26, 2014, the FCC released a Public Notice requesting >comment on a petition filed by the Coalition of E-Reader >Manufacturers for an extension of the waiver for basic e-readers >from the FCC's rules requiring equipment used for advanced >communications services (ACS) to be accessible by people with >disabilities. The current waiver, granted by the FCC on January 28, >2014, was for one year, and expires on January 28, 2015. > >The Coalition now seeks an ongoing extension of this waiver for >basic e-readers. The Coalition states that, although access to ACS >is available through the e-reader browser, e-readers are >single-purpose reading devices that consumers use for accessing >text-based works (i.e., reading), not for other purposes, such as ACS. > >Links to the Public Notice: >Word: >https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.docx >PDF: >https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.pdf >Text: >https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.txt > >Link to the Coalition petition for an extension of the waiver: >http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7521827908 > >Links to the January 28, 2014 FCC order that granted a waiver until >January 28, 2015: >Word: >https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.docx >PDF: >https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.pdf >Text: >https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.txt > >For further information, please contact Eliot Greenwald at (202) >418-2235 or Eliot.Greenwald@fcc.gov; >or Rosaline Crawford at (202) 418-2075 or >Rosaline.Crawford@fcc.gov. > > > From ronrstewart at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 16:35:33 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS Accessibility Waiver for E-Readers In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20140929155401.05dc3900@gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20140929155401.05dc3900@gmail.com> Message-ID: Absolutely not, they have been crying this stream for years. I approached the major vendors many years ago, and at that time it was not technologically feasible. Not today, it is fully realizable and fairly easy to do on the better devices. Ever wonder why the fully accessible Kindle is still a myth? Need I say more. On Monday, September 29, 2014, Jennifer Sutton wrote: > Fyi, for Any ATHENites who've not already seen this. > > From: AccessInfo >> Subject: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS >> Accessibility >> Waiver for E-Readers >> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:44:18 +0000 >> >> Comment Deadline: October 27, 2014 >> Reply Comment Deadline: November 5, 2014 >> >> On September 26, 2014, the FCC released a Public Notice requesting >> comment on a petition filed by the Coalition of E-Reader Manufacturers for >> an extension of the waiver for basic e-readers from the FCC's rules >> requiring equipment used for advanced communications services (ACS) to be >> accessible by people with disabilities. The current waiver, granted by the >> FCC on January 28, 2014, was for one year, and expires on January 28, 2015. >> >> The Coalition now seeks an ongoing extension of this waiver for basic >> e-readers. The Coalition states that, although access to ACS is available >> through the e-reader browser, e-readers are single-purpose reading devices >> that consumers use for accessing text-based works (i.e., reading), not for >> other purposes, such as ACS. >> >> Links to the Public Notice: >> Word: >> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.docx >> PDF: >> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.pdf >> Text: >> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.txt >> >> Link to the Coalition petition for an extension of the waiver: >> ht >> tp://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7521827908 >> >> Links to the January 28, 2014 FCC order that granted a waiver until >> January 28, 2015: >> Word: >> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.docx >> PDF: >> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.pdf >> Text: >> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.txt >> >> For further information, please contact Eliot Greenwald at (202) 418-2235 >> or Eliot.Greenwald@fcc.gov; or Rosaline >> Crawford at (202) 418-2075 or >> Rosaline.Crawford@fcc.gov. >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Teresa Teresa Haven, Ph.D. Accessibility Analyst, Northern Arizona University Co-Chair, AHEAD Standing Committee on Technology From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:36 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Fwd: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS Accessibility Waiver for E-Readers Absolutely not, they have been crying this stream for years. I approached the major vendors many years ago, and at that time it was not technologically feasible. Not today, it is fully realizable and fairly easy to do on the better devices. Ever wonder why the fully accessible Kindle is still a myth? Need I say more. On Monday, September 29, 2014, Jennifer Sutton > wrote: Fyi, for Any ATHENites who've not already seen this. From: AccessInfo > Subject: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS Accessibility Waiver for E-Readers Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:44:18 +0000 Comment Deadline: October 27, 2014 Reply Comment Deadline: November 5, 2014 On September 26, 2014, the FCC released a Public Notice requesting comment on a petition filed by the Coalition of E-Reader Manufacturers for an extension of the waiver for basic e-readers from the FCC's rules requiring equipment used for advanced communications services (ACS) to be accessible by people with disabilities. The current waiver, granted by the FCC on January 28, 2014, was for one year, and expires on January 28, 2015. The Coalition now seeks an ongoing extension of this waiver for basic e-readers. The Coalition states that, although access to ACS is available through the e-reader browser, e-readers are single-purpose reading devices that consumers use for accessing text-based works (i.e., reading), not for other purposes, such as ACS. Links to the Public Notice: Word: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.docx PDF: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.pdf Text: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.txt Link to the Coalition petition for an extension of the waiver: http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7521827908 Links to the January 28, 2014 FCC order that granted a waiver until January 28, 2015: Word: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.docx PDF: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.pdf Text: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.txt For further information, please contact Eliot Greenwald at (202) 418-2235 or Eliot.Greenwald@fcc.gov; or Rosaline Crawford at (202) 418-2075 or Rosaline.Crawford@fcc.gov. _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I approached the major vendors many years ago, and at that time it was not technologically feasible. Not today, it is fully realizable and fairly easy to do on the better devices. Ever wonder why the fully accessible Kindle is still a myth? Need I say more. On Monday, September 29, 2014, Jennifer Sutton > wrote: Fyi, for Any ATHENites who've not already seen this. From: AccessInfo > Subject: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS Accessibility Waiver for E-Readers Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:44:18 +0000 Comment Deadline: October 27, 2014 Reply Comment Deadline: November 5, 2014 On September 26, 2014, the FCC released a Public Notice requesting comment on a petition filed by the Coalition of E-Reader Manufacturers for an extension of the waiver for basic e-readers from the FCC's rules requiring equipment used for advanced communications services (ACS) to be accessible by people with disabilities. The current waiver, granted by the FCC on January 28, 2014, was for one year, and expires on January 28, 2015. The Coalition now seeks an ongoing extension of this waiver for basic e-readers. The Coalition states that, although access to ACS is available through the e-reader browser, e-readers are single-purpose reading devices that consumers use for accessing text-based works (i.e., reading), not for other purposes, such as ACS. Links to the Public Notice: Word: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.docx PDF: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.pdf Text: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.txt Link to the Coalition petition for an extension of the waiver: http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7521827908 Links to the January 28, 2014 FCC order that granted a waiver until January 28, 2015: Word: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.docx PDF: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.pdf Text: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.txt For further information, please contact Eliot Greenwald at (202) 418-2235 or Eliot.Greenwald@fcc.gov; or Rosaline Crawford at (202) 418-2075 or Rosaline.Crawford@fcc.gov. _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronrstewart at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 07:24:29 2014 From: ronrstewart at gmail.com (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS Accessibility Waiver for E-Readers In-Reply-To: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B5CE00A162@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20140929155401.05dc3900@gmail.com> <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B5CE00A162@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <0e5601cfdcba$3fc5d030$bf517090$@gmail.com> The links are in the body of the email forwarded I believe. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Fwd: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS Accessibility Waiver for E-Readers It would be helpful to have links to respond to the petition. Does anyone have them? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:36 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Fwd: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS Accessibility Waiver for E-Readers Absolutely not, they have been crying this stream for years. I approached the major vendors many years ago, and at that time it was not technologically feasible. Not today, it is fully realizable and fairly easy to do on the better devices. Ever wonder why the fully accessible Kindle is still a myth? Need I say more. On Monday, September 29, 2014, Jennifer Sutton wrote: Fyi, for Any ATHENites who've not already seen this. From: AccessInfo Subject: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS Accessibility Waiver for E-Readers Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:44:18 +0000 Comment Deadline: October 27, 2014 Reply Comment Deadline: November 5, 2014 On September 26, 2014, the FCC released a Public Notice requesting comment on a petition filed by the Coalition of E-Reader Manufacturers for an extension of the waiver for basic e-readers from the FCC's rules requiring equipment used for advanced communications services (ACS) to be accessible by people with disabilities. The current waiver, granted by the FCC on January 28, 2014, was for one year, and expires on January 28, 2015. The Coalition now seeks an ongoing extension of this waiver for basic e-readers. The Coalition states that, although access to ACS is available through the e-reader browser, e-readers are single-purpose reading devices that consumers use for accessing text-based works (i.e., reading), not for other purposes, such as ACS. Links to the Public Notice: Word: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.docx PDF: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.pdf Text: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.txt Link to the Coalition petition for an extension of the waiver: http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7521827908 Links to the January 28, 2014 FCC order that granted a waiver until January 28, 2015: Word: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.docx PDF: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.pdf Text: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.txt For further information, please contact Eliot Greenwald at (202) 418-2235 or Eliot.Greenwald@fcc.gov; or Rosaline Crawford at (202) 418-2075 or Rosaline.Crawford@fcc.gov. _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU Tue Sep 30 07:31:22 2014 From: Susan.Kelmer at Colorado.EDU (Susan Kelmer) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS Accessibility Waiver for E-Readers In-Reply-To: <0e5601cfdcba$3fc5d030$bf517090$@gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20140929155401.05dc3900@gmail.com> <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B5CE00A162@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> <0e5601cfdcba$3fc5d030$bf517090$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3E04A2F7AAD0E345B673D732D9A53807B5CE00A16C@EXC3.ad.colorado.edu> Those are links to the copies of the petition, and the filings. No links to comment on the petitions. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:24 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Fwd: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS Accessibility Waiver for E-Readers The links are in the body of the email forwarded I believe. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Fwd: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS Accessibility Waiver for E-Readers It would be helpful to have links to respond to the petition. Does anyone have them? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Coordinator Disability Services University of Colorado 303-735-4836 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:36 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Fwd: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS Accessibility Waiver for E-Readers Absolutely not, they have been crying this stream for years. I approached the major vendors many years ago, and at that time it was not technologically feasible. Not today, it is fully realizable and fairly easy to do on the better devices. Ever wonder why the fully accessible Kindle is still a myth? Need I say more. On Monday, September 29, 2014, Jennifer Sutton > wrote: Fyi, for Any ATHENites who've not already seen this. From: AccessInfo > Subject: Request for Comment on Petition for Extension of ACS Accessibility Waiver for E-Readers Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:44:18 +0000 Comment Deadline: October 27, 2014 Reply Comment Deadline: November 5, 2014 On September 26, 2014, the FCC released a Public Notice requesting comment on a petition filed by the Coalition of E-Reader Manufacturers for an extension of the waiver for basic e-readers from the FCC's rules requiring equipment used for advanced communications services (ACS) to be accessible by people with disabilities. The current waiver, granted by the FCC on January 28, 2014, was for one year, and expires on January 28, 2015. The Coalition now seeks an ongoing extension of this waiver for basic e-readers. The Coalition states that, although access to ACS is available through the e-reader browser, e-readers are single-purpose reading devices that consumers use for accessing text-based works (i.e., reading), not for other purposes, such as ACS. Links to the Public Notice: Word: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.docx PDF: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.pdf Text: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1403A1.txt Link to the Coalition petition for an extension of the waiver: http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7521827908 Links to the January 28, 2014 FCC order that granted a waiver until January 28, 2015: Word: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.docx PDF: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.pdf Text: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-95A1.txt For further information, please contact Eliot Greenwald at (202) 418-2235 or Eliot.Greenwald@fcc.gov; or Rosaline Crawford at (202) 418-2075 or Rosaline.Crawford@fcc.gov. _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsuttondc at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 09:11:48 2014 From: jsuttondc at gmail.com (Jennifer Sutton) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Blue Jeans Network Adds Key Features to Enhance Video Conferencing Accessibility to Customers With Disabilities Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20140930090903.05d8c5c8@gmail.com> Greetings, ATHENites: I thought some of you might be as pleased to hear of this news as I am. I'd love to hear of any tests conducted and/or what they have to say if those at Educause hear any more news there. Jennifer Blue Jeans Network Adds Key Features to Enhance Video Conferencing Accessibility to Customers With Disabilities http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/blue-jeans-network-adds-key-features-enhance-video-conferencing-accessibility-customers-1951445.htm From kerscher at montana.com Tue Sep 30 09:37:28 2014 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? In-Reply-To: <0b2201cfdc2a$0f20aad0$2d620070$@gmail.com> References: <010101cfdc16$92931e20$b7b95a60$@montana.com> <0b2201cfdc2a$0f20aad0$2d620070$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000f01cfdccc$d3522990$79f67cb0$@montana.com> Hi Ron, I find that JFW changes languages on the fly and I believe this is based on the language attribute. Is there more than that is needed? Of course, we need the language switching capabilities in a broad range of accessible reading systems. The information is there in the DOM; the visual presentation is good, so it is the AT that needs to send the change language command to the tts engine. Best George Best George From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 3:12 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? Good advice George, I have been playing with epubtest.org and it at least does some of the validation grunt work. In my thinking through the parsing issues with properly tagged code I am wondering if it can be done on the fly without some kind of a toggle initiated to go from left to right to right to left. Secondly would be the transition from romance based languages to more symbolic type languages such as Farsi or Arabic. Here is my thought, a reading system that would pick up the lang tagging and announce it with the user then using a quick keystroke combination to switch the user agent to the new language. Not elegant I know, but nothing in this space has ever been elegant. There is clearly the potential in the rich semantic markup that is possible in XML, and has been for years, but I am yet to see a reader system that can actually deliver it. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:53 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? Hi, If you look at epubtest.org, you would find a list of readers and in the test suite, there are tests for right to left readers. I would try the EPUBs you created to see if they change language on the fly. My guess, and we have not tested for this specifically that Readium for Chrome under Windows using JFW or NVDA would work the best. Also, look at Vital Source. Oh, and it may make a difference if the language change is on a block element, like a paragraph and not on a span. Let me know how this goes. Best George From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Richwine Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 11:44 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? Hi, Does anyone have knowledge of an accessible EPUB reader on iOS/VoiceOver (or any platform for that matter) that supports multilingual access, including a mix of directional languages? If it could work on iOS, I suppose we'd support any other file format that would be accessible and could be converted from a Word document. We have a student that is blind, a native Arabic speaker, and does not want to use desktop screen-reading software since his iPhone natively supports Arabic TTS. We've been converting his materials by editing in Word documents, and then converting them to the EPUB format. The student opens the materials in iBooks on his phone. This has been going splendidly for books that are in all one language. However, the student is studying languages and many of the materials he needs make extensive use of two or more languages. We've checked the underlying HTML, metadata files, etc. in the EPUBs we are creating. They seem to have the proper language markup around the changes (span elements with lang attributes as expected). However, none of the EPUB readers (accessible and with TTS) for iOS are handling the language changes. It appears that for iBooks, at least, that this is currently by design. The iBooks Asset Guide speaks of "The language of your book" (as in singular language, pg. 19 of the iBooks Asset Guide 5.1 R2). To complicate it, many of the texts switch between left-to-right languages and right-to-left languages. Often many times in a given line. Thanks! Brian Richwine Manager, UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University ? Bloomington / Indianapolis http://iuadapts.iu.edu (812) 856-2757 [Direct Line] (812) 856-4112 [Office Number] brichwin@iu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at ahead.org Tue Sep 30 11:22:42 2014 From: ron at ahead.org (Ron Stewart) Date: Sat Jun 9 18:31:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? In-Reply-To: <000f01cfdccc$d3522990$79f67cb0$@montana.com> References: <010101cfdc16$92931e20$b7b95a60$@montana.com> <0b2201cfdc2a$0f20aad0$2d620070$@gmail.com> <000f01cfdccc$d3522990$79f67cb0$@montana.com> Message-ID: <01b301cfdcdb$86d50650$947f12f0$@ahead.org> That is true George, I was just trying to think of a simple solution and not having to wait for the reading system vendors to build such a feature in. Ron From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:37 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? Hi Ron, I find that JFW changes languages on the fly and I believe this is based on the language attribute. Is there more than that is needed? Of course, we need the language switching capabilities in a broad range of accessible reading systems. The information is there in the DOM; the visual presentation is good, so it is the AT that needs to send the change language command to the tts engine. Best George Best George From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Stewart Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 3:12 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? Good advice George, I have been playing with epubtest.org and it at least does some of the validation grunt work. In my thinking through the parsing issues with properly tagged code I am wondering if it can be done on the fly without some kind of a toggle initiated to go from left to right to right to left. Secondly would be the transition from romance based languages to more symbolic type languages such as Farsi or Arabic. Here is my thought, a reading system that would pick up the lang tagging and announce it with the user then using a quick keystroke combination to switch the user agent to the new language. Not elegant I know, but nothing in this space has ever been elegant. There is clearly the potential in the rich semantic markup that is possible in XML, and has been for years, but I am yet to see a reader system that can actually deliver it. Ron Stewart From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:53 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? Hi, If you look at epubtest.org, you would find a list of readers and in the test suite, there are tests for right to left readers. I would try the EPUBs you created to see if they change language on the fly. My guess, and we have not tested for this specifically that Readium for Chrome under Windows using JFW or NVDA would work the best. Also, look at Vital Source. Oh, and it may make a difference if the language change is on a block element, like a paragraph and not on a span. Let me know how this goes. Best George From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Richwine Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 11:44 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Are Accessible Multilingual/Multi-directional EPUBs supported today? Hi, Does anyone have knowledge of an accessible EPUB reader on iOS/VoiceOver (or any platform for that matter) that supports multilingual access, including a mix of directional languages? If it could work on iOS, I suppose we'd support any other file format that would be accessible and could be converted from a Word document. We have a student that is blind, a native Arabic speaker, and does not want to use desktop screen-reading software since his iPhone natively supports Arabic TTS. We've been converting his materials by editing in Word documents, and then converting them to the EPUB format. The student opens the materials in iBooks on his phone. This has been going splendidly for books that are in all one language. However, the student is studying languages and many of the materials he needs make extensive use of two or more languages. We've checked the underlying HTML, metadata files, etc. in the EPUBs we are creating. They seem to have the proper language markup around the changes (span elements with lang attributes as expected). However, none of the EPUB readers (accessible and with TTS) for iOS are handling the language changes. It appears that for iBooks, at least, that this is currently by design. The iBooks Asset Guide speaks of "The language of your book" (as in singular language, pg. 19 of the iBooks Asset Guide 5.1 R2). To complicate it, many of the texts switch between left-to-right languages and right-to-left languages. Often many times in a given line. Thanks! Brian Richwine Manager, UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers Indiana University ? Bloomington / Indianapolis http://iuadapts.iu.edu (812) 856-2757 [Direct Line] (812) 856-4112 [Office Number] brichwin@iu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: