[Athen] text-only DAISY conversion

[Ron]

DAISY is very popular with students who have been properly exposed to it
and understand its strengths and limitations. In my experience the real
challenge is in getting folks to try something new or be willing to give up
their current solution for a better one.

Ron Stewart

On Monday, September 8, 2014, Heidi Scher <hascherdss at gmail.com> wrote:


> Happy Monday all!

>

> So I'm wondering why full DAISY so popular with our students and not with

> coastal students?  Hm.........

>

> Heidi

>

>

>

> +++++++++++++++

> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC

> Associate Director

> Center for Educational Access

> University of Arkansas

> ARKU 104

> Fayetteville, AR 72701

> 479.575.3104

> 479.575.7445 fax

> 479.575.3646 tdd

> +++++++++++++++

>

> On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Dann Berkowitz <dann at digilifemedia.biz

> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dann at digilifemedia.biz');>> wrote:

>

>> Don't get too excited Wink ... Adam and I developed a pretty good system

>> for building DTB files, but as Sean noted, DAISY as a format has not gained

>> as much usage as we all hoped.

>>

>>

>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:15 PM, foreigntype <foreigntype at gmail.com

>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','foreigntype at gmail.com');>> wrote:

>>

>>> Hahahaha! We should discuss how to do this at AHG ---we could get rich

>>> and retire.

>>>

>>> ;>)

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Wink Harner

>>>

>>> foreigntype at gmail.com

>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','foreigntype at gmail.com');>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu

>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu');>]

>>> *On Behalf Of *Heidi Scher

>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 05, 2014 9:07 AM

>>>

>>> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network

>>> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Hey there, Sean,

>>>

>>> According to the tech at Bookshare, they use the Save As DAISY plug-in.

>>> So not sure why we can't get it to work but they can. For GoRead, it

>>> doesn't want all the SMIL files either. But since we're swamped right now,

>>> I've moved on since my MacGyver solution has worked!  But, if things ever

>>> slow down, I'll revisit the issue - unless someone else can figure out what

>>> we haven't.

>>>

>>> Wink, I SOOOO wish we had an easy button for conversion!

>>>

>>> Heidi

>>>

>>>

>>> +++++++++++++++

>>> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC

>>> Associate Director

>>> Center for Educational Access

>>> University of Arkansas

>>> ARKU 104

>>> Fayetteville, AR 72701

>>> 479.575.3104

>>> 479.575.7445 fax

>>> 479.575.3646 tdd

>>> +++++++++++++++

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Sean Keegan <skeegan at stanford.edu

>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skeegan at stanford.edu');>> wrote:

>>>

>>> Hi Heidi,

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As

>>> DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is

>>> lacking  the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to

>>> producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML

>>> file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a

>>> complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with

>>> Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army

>>> knife if he did alt media production...

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Take care,

>>>

>>> Sean

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher <hascherdss at gmail.com

>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hascherdss at gmail.com');>> wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Thank you everyone for the feedback!  I'm passing every little tidbit

>>> along to our lab coordinator.

>>>

>>> I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare

>>> books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do

>>> full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY.  I'm not

>>> having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and

>>> work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app

>>> for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in

>>> GoRead.

>>>

>>> Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I

>>> combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one

>>> large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now

>>> reads out loud in GoRead!

>>>

>>> Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference!

>>>

>>> Thank you again one and all!

>>>

>>> Heidi

>>>

>>>

>>> +++++++++++++++

>>> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC

>>> Associate Director

>>> Center for Educational Access

>>> University of Arkansas

>>> ARKU 104

>>> Fayetteville, AR 72701

>>> 479.575.3104

>>> 479.575.7445 fax

>>> 479.575.3646 tdd

>>> +++++++++++++++

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart <ron at ahead.org

>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ron at ahead.org');>> wrote:

>>>

>>> That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no

>>> longer supporting it as far as I am aware.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Ron Stewart

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu

>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu');>]

>>> *On Behalf Of *Gaeir Dietrich

>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM

>>> *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'

>>>

>>>

>>> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> You can also use Tech Adapt’s free TAMC program:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>>

>>> Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich

>>> 408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636

>>>

>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> *From:* athen-list

>>> [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu]

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>>> Behalf Of *Neal Sorensen

>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM

>>> *To:* athen-list at u.washington.edu

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>>> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Hello Heidi,

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only.  Here’s a

>>> quick how-to…

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> 1.       Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the

>>> extracted folder.

>>>

>>> 2.       Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet

>>> browser (I recommend Firefox)

>>>

>>> 3.       Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word

>>> processor.

>>>

>>> 4.       Breathe easy

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text

>>> formatting and pages indicated.  XML usually contains styles too, but I

>>> don’t think that is included in the Bookshare XML.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility

>>> issues with Bookshare software.  Read:OutLoud hasn’t run successfully for

>>> me in almost a year on Macs.  This is the best method I have discovered for

>>> working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those

>>> students.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Hope this helps!

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Neal Sorensen

>>>

>>> Specialist of Assistive Technology

>>>

>>> Office of Disability Resources

>>>

>>> Naropa University: Boulder, CO

>>>

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>>>

>>> Phone: 303-546-3560

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> The Machine is Us/ing Us:

>>>

>>> The Machine is Us/ing Us (Final Version)

>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g>

>>>

>>> "A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the

>>> world…"

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Hi all,

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY

>>> so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices.  Is anyone out

>>> there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare

>>> and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any

>>> luck getting that to work.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Anyone have any ideas??

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Thanks in advance!!

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Heidi

>>>

>>>

>>>

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