[Athen] MathType problem

Robert Beach rbeach at KCKCC.EDU
Tue Mar 8 19:11:35 PST 2016


Hey all,

I have a MathType error that I can't figure out. My intern created a math review sheet in Word 2010 using MathType 6.9B. In the past, I was able to open the Word document into Duxbury and convert the math problems without too much trouble. However, this document gives errors on all of the math problems, but the text translates correctly. I tried it on Duxbury 11.1 (at work) and Duxbury 11.2 (at home). With Duxbury 11.1, I get an error that the file is an unsupported format and it doesn't open. At home the document opens but as I said all problems translate into errors.

Can anybody give me an idea what to try? I really need to get this going before Thursday since the student has a test Friday and I need to convert it as well as this review sheet.

Thanks all!

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To: Lisa Brandt
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Epub Format in Google Docs

Hello Lisa,

Yes I hope they make that a priority as well.


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Samantha Johns

Accessibility & Course Support Specialist

Portland State University

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On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Lisa Brandt <lisa.brandt1 at pcc.edu<mailto:lisa.brandt1 at pcc.edu>> wrote:
Darn, the math issues are indeed disappointing. I hope they'll make that a priority.


On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 12:49:22 -0800, Samantha Johns <samanj at pdx.edu<mailto:samanj at pdx.edu>> wrote:

Hello,

Thank you Lisa for pointing that this could bring more attention to this format. And thank you Emma, yes I agree this may not support math equations.

I did test that if you format the Doc in Google with Heading, and Alt text for image, then export to Epub it does retain formatting and read the Alt Text. So that's a plus!


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Samantha Johns

Accessibility & Course Support Specialist

Portland State University

1825 SW Broadway
Smith Memorial Student Union, Mezzanine 209
Portland OR 97201
(503) 725-2754<tel:%28503%29%20725-2754>




On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Emma Cliffe <E.H.Cliffe at bath.ac.uk<mailto:E.H.Cliffe at bath.ac.uk>> wrote:

Hello,

Just a quick note since I was curious and had a look: I don't have full test software here at home but from what I could see from unzipping the EPub and looking at the source code the equations are stored as images (png) and are included in the EPub without alternative text. This means that the images won't scale well (may also align badly and will reflow badly) and there is nothing to be read aloud.

This is about as far away from good practice as they can get (MathML with SVG and MathSpeak fallback in EPub3 http://www.idpf.org/accessibility/guidelines/content/mathml/desc.php). I didn't try anything beyond that... I would be wondering about other more complex structural elements though.

Best wishes,
Emma Cliffe

Mathematics Resource Centre Development Officer
University of Bath


On 08/03/16 17:04, Samantha Johns wrote:
Hello Athen Community,

As of recently it looks like Google Docs now has the option to export to Epub format. I am wondering what people think about the benefits of this and recommendations?

Have a great day!


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Samantha Johns

Accessibility & Course Support Specialist

Portland State University

1825 SW Broadway
Smith Memorial Student Union, Mezzanine 209
Portland OR 97201
(503) 725-2754<tel:%28503%29%20725-2754>





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