[Athen] back to the question of features of K-3000 compared to R&W

Leyna Bencomo lbencomo at uccs.edu
Fri Mar 18 09:05:02 PDT 2016


Thank you Robert. I was about to say the same thing.

The unlimited license allows you to install on students' home computers both Mac and PC so there are no limitations in that arena either. We use about 40 voices in English with British, Indian, Australian and American accents.

About a year ago, our regional AT group "ATHES" had the vendors demo both products side by side. We found them to be quite competitive. R&W edges out in ease of use for students in my opinion because it allows you to read in the native document (Word or pdf or webpage). I also found the look of R&W to be slicker and more adult oriented.

We use ABBYY and Adobe Pro for optical character recognition and converting documents. If you didn't have either of these, I believe Kurzweil has a features that can do some of that a little better than R&W but we have no need for them.

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From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Beach
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [Athen] back to the question of features of K-3000 compared to R&W

I have to jump in here.

1/ independent use by students, as K-3000 can open any article from electronic libraries, HTML, Word, etc, without needing staff support, compared to R&W which is designed to work in Word and also has some reading functions in PDFs

<R>
R&W can also read articles from online databases as well as articles from other online sources. The reading features in PDF is not limited or reduced.

2/ K-3000 has extensive study features, esp in the Windows platform, to extract text to study notes, insert dictionary definitions, add your own definitions and examples, etc., to analyze the text with less typing, and a solid structure to support writing, with brainstorming, drafts, outlines, etc., where again, you can extract text for quotes, etc.

<R>
R&W also provides these features.

3/ the Acapella speech in K-3000, while not as good as the previous Voiceware products, allows students to read volumes of text. At Cdn universities, students are reading 50 pages of dense text/course/week, and need highly intelligible speech. Many of our Universities are going with a Web license of K-3000, whereas the colleges, which grant certificates and diplomas and have a much smaller volume of reading, are going with R&W, because it is cheaper and the speech quality doesn't matter.

<R>
Since you can add just about any voice you want to R&W, I don't see were K3000 has an advantage here. The same voices you are using in K3000 can be added to R&W as well.

4/ outcome measures indicate that students with ADD, LDs and mental health issues find the reading with highlighting, and reading for meaning, looking for important sections to extract for study notes, improves student's abilities to both get through their readings in a timely manner, comprehend the readings, and learn the material.

<R>
Again, R&W provides reading with highlighting, ability to highlight sections of text for extraction, etc.


Robert Lee Beach
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Kansas City Kansas Community College
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From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Linda Petty
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:36 AM
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Subject: [Athen] back to the question of features of K-3000 compared to R&W

Regarding the original question:

\ Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil 3000 vs. Read&Write



Hello everyone,



Our program is considering a transition from Kurzweil 3000 to Read&Write.

While I understand there are many advantages and disadvantages, I was

wondering if you can give me a comparison if you have experience with both

programs.



Thank you,



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Marc T. Trinh, M.S., Coordinator


I'd say that the major advantages of K-3000 are:
1/ independent use by students, as K-3000 can open any article from electronic libraries, HTML, Word, etc, without needing staff support, compared to R&W which is designed to work in Word and also has some reading functions in PDFs
2/ K-3000 has extensive study features, esp in the Windows platform, to extract text to study notes, insert dictionary definitions, add your own definitions and examples, etc., to analyze the text with less typing, and a solid structure to support writing, with brainstorming, drafts, outlines, etc., where again, you can extract text for quotes, etc.
3/ the Acapella speech in K-3000, while not as good as the previous Voiceware products, allows students to read volumes of text. At Cdn universities, students are reading 50 pages of dense text/course/week, and need highly intelligible speech. Many of our Universities are going with a Web license of K-3000, whereas the colleges, which grant certificates and diplomas and have a much smaller volume of reading, are going with R&W, because it is cheaper and the speech quality doesn't matter.
4/ outcome measures indicate that students with ADD, LDs and mental health issues find the reading with highlighting, and reading for meaning, looking for important sections to extract for study notes, improves student's abilities to both get through their readings in a timely manner, comprehend the readings, and learn the material.

So our University has chosen to do a web license of Kurzweil 3000, and it has greatly accelerated the use of the product- no more waiting for funding, just register the student, train them, and they are using it immediately for articles, and as soon as we provide the textbook in PDF, for textbooks.

(We use Kurzweil 1000 for students who use screen readers.)

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