[Athen] Reply - Success getting LaTex source files from textbook
Henning, Christine M
cmhennin at oaklandcc.edu
Mon Feb 13 12:22:18 PST 2017
Brian:
I have been working with the math instructors at my college and been trying to get the publishers to give LaTex files for their textbook and materials. I have not been successful with publishers, however, I did find an alternate source that worked well in a particular situation. An instructor wanted to use an open source book that is already converted into LaTex that was brought to her attention from a student. The student came from Grand Valley State University (GVSU) and asked to use the open source book that is already in LaTex format. I am not sure what exact course you are looking for, but I would contact GVSU and look at their open textbook collection for reference. I have included a link for you below along with another great resource I have personally used with the instructors at Oakland Community College.
Open Textbook at GVSU: http://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/books/10/
American Institute of Mathematics: http://aimath.org/textbooks/
Let me know if you find any other great resources because I am always interested in learning more!
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Christine Henning
instructional technologist * (248) 232-4838
Academic Technologies * Academic Affairs * Oakland Community College
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: video accessibility on Facebook (Jennifer Sutton)
2. ATHEN Scholarship Committee (Robert Beach)
3. Re: video accessibility on Facebook
(Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker))
4. Re: video accessibility on Facebook (Jennifer Sutton)
5. Re: Success getting LaTex source files from textbook
publishers? (Russell Solowoniuk)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:22:19 -0800
From: Jennifer Sutton <jsuttondc at gmail.com>
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
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Subject: Re: [Athen] video accessibility on Facebook
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I don't know whether you've gotten answers to your questions, but perhaps this will be a helpful start:
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Maybe you can follow up with Facebook directly, to see what they recommend.
I happened to see:
@fbaccess
tweet this link in the last few days because they've recently launched automatic captioning, if I understand correctly.
At least there seems to be a way to edit the auto-captioning, so the
captions won't be "craptions" (not my term, but a good one, I think).
Best,
Jennifer
On 2/10/2017 11:32 AM, KRISTA L. GREEAR wrote:
>
> Two questions that cropped up from my captioning training with Housing
> and Food Services yesterday ?
>
> What?s the best process for ensuring the videos they post on Facebook
> are accessible? They create videos on the fly. And create videos
> hosted on their YouTube channel (I taught them how to create/edit
> captions using YouTube).
>
> And they regularly livestream on Facebook. Sometimes there?s audio but
> sometimes the stream is of a scene, like freshmen moving in on move-in
> day. Has anyone else dealt with this situation? How have you handled
> it? I told them about remote CART services.
>
> Thanks in advanced,
>
> *KRISTA GREEAR*
>
> Assistant Director
>
> Disability Resources for Students
>
> 011 Mary Gates Hall
>
> Box 352808
> Seattle, WA 98195-2808
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> Direct: 206.221.4136 / Main: 206.543.8924
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 14:15:00 +0000
From: Robert Beach <rbeach at KCKCC.EDU>
To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network
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Subject: [Athen] ATHEN Scholarship Committee
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Hello everybody and a happy Monday morning to all.
I want to thank those who have volunteered to help with the first ATHEN Scholarship Review Committee. We have enough folks for the committee now. However, if you are interested and want to be added to a backup list in case somebody has to drop out, I will still take names. You can email me privately at rbeach at kckcc.edu<mailto:rbeach at kckcc.edu> to be added to the list.
Thanks again to all who have volunteered. I appreciate the fast response.
Robert Lee Beach
Assistive Technology Specialist
Kansas City Kansas Community College
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Email: rbeach at kckcc.edu<mailto:rbeach at kckcc.edu>
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:43:20 +0000
From: "Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)" <hunziker at email.arizona.edu>
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
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Subject: Re: [Athen] video accessibility on Facebook
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Hi Krista,
We are captioning our Facebook videos on the main University of Arizona Facebook page. As of now, the videos posted are all planned in advance so we get captions created in advance. Maybe "posting on the fly" is not an option? Perhaps they post it a couple of hours after the recording so there's time to get a captioned version posted... This is a discussion we're having now as well.
If the same videos are posted on YouTube and Facebook, the SRT file created from the YouTube video could be downloaded and uploaded to Facebook. Something to know - posting links to YouTube videos does not reach the audience numbers the way posting the video directly via Facebook does because Facebook "downgrades" the YouTube links in favor of their hosted videos.
I'm still working to figure out a plan for the livestream and learning who on campus is taking advantage of this communication tool. If the live events are planned in advance, then a CART writer could certainly be provided. In the comments, simply post the URL to view captions... If the live stream does not have sound, then have that information posted in the comments somehow and regularly so it shows up as a recent comment?
If you come up with processes around these items, please share as I'm sure we're not the only ones working on solutions!
Have a great day,
Dawn
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Dawn Hunziker
IT Accessibility Consultant
Disability Resource Center
520-626-9409
hunziker at email.arizona.edu<mailto:hunziker at email.arizona.edu>
From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of KRISTA L. GREEAR
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 12:33 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list at u.washington.edu>
Subject: [Athen] video accessibility on Facebook
Two questions that cropped up from my captioning training with Housing and Food Services yesterday -
What's the best process for ensuring the videos they post on Facebook are accessible? They create videos on the fly. And create videos hosted on their YouTube channel (I taught them how to create/edit captions using YouTube).
And they regularly livestream on Facebook. Sometimes there's audio but sometimes the stream is of a scene, like freshmen moving in on move-in day. Has anyone else dealt with this situation? How have you handled it? I told them about remote CART services.
Thanks in advanced,
KRISTA GREEAR
Assistant Director
Disability Resources for Students
011 Mary Gates Hall
Box 352808
Seattle, WA 98195-2808
Direct: 206.221.4136 / Main: 206.543.8924
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 08:57:07 -0800
From: Jennifer Sutton <jsuttondc at gmail.com>
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
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Subject: Re: [Athen] video accessibility on Facebook
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For those interested who aren't subscribed to the WebAIM email list,
there's a similar thread on there about Facebook and accessible content
(such as fixing incorrect alt text), but also including video, that's
just begun. The thread hasn't shown up in the archives, yet, but I
imagine it will do so shortly. Start here:
http://cp.mcafee.com/d/avndygO96Qm7xRQn4hPNKVJ6X0UsyyOMOrhKMe78EIL6zASztxUQsI9FCzCVJ6X1EVujKOqekPtBivMxa0aHFk_o8mJTEdCWWlfS25HtW3pJdSWauLfZvAkQTCbKtuVtdAs_OtS67HIZh5dqWqJQQ-l3PWApmU6CQmjqbVKVKVI060bpaY01N2lbdQFaIc4NnoS9Oc-iFmcNkwmehdXcDY2VYGjbAaJMJZ0k9GX15DC-crgDa16totW3pJ5MQsFECZCj-1s-l9Cy0eAh-AM3d40pGuq84mmg3d40rizvCy154SOUrXTbf
Best,
Jennifer
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 11:34:58 -0700
From: "Russell Solowoniuk" <SolowoniukR at macewan.ca>
To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network"
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Success getting LaTex source files from textbook
publishers?
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Hi Brian,
If one is able to obtain the LaTex file from a publisher, would the math content in this file then be readable by a screen reader, or would the file need to be converted to some other format? I'm not at all familiar with LaTex, so apologies if this is a stupid question! :)
Thanks,
Russell
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>>> Brian Richwine <blrichwine at gmail.com> 2017-02-10 2:31 PM >>>
Hello,
THE SHORT:
I'm wondering if any schools have been successful at negotiating publisher
contracts to allow quick access to LaTex or other publishing source files
for textbooks as needed to facilitate more efficient alternate media
conversion. I'm not talking about the PDFs that ATN always wants to send. I
mean the raw source files for the textbook that contain semantically usable
information that facilitates alternate media conversion.
Does anyone know of any higher ed groups working on such a project?
We were just successful at getting the LaTex source files for a advanced
mathematics textbook from a major higher ed textbook publisher. However it
took weeks and contact from many university officials to get them to
release the files. We just received the files and we are now 5 or so weeks
into the semester. Even still, it will literally save us thousands of
dollars in editing costs and will greatly increase the speed at which we
can produce the rest of the book in braille.
If the publisher would have responded earlier, we could have saved even
more money and provided a better result to the student by focusing our
staff energies on tactile diagrams and other efforts.
BACKGROUND:
The LaTex source files for mathematics texts are great, because they can be
very easily (read quickly and accurately) converted into a format the
Duxbury Braille Translation software will process. This prevents the
laborious retyping of each equation into MathType. (we tried the most
recent Infty Reader with very frustrating and poor results; it crashed on
most every source page).
We originally requested a publisher copy of the textbook via ATN. ATN's
system did not offer LaTex as a request format choice (it only offered PDF).
However, it was fairly obvious to those familiar with LaTex that the
textbook had been typeset in LaTex/Tex. So, we tried a special instructions
ATN request for LaTex. ATN's response was a flat out the publisher does not
have a LaTex version of the textbook.
Through various channels we have directly with the publisher, we got them
to admit that they did indeed have the LaTex source, only we'd have to wait
until they could get their permissions department to release those. It took
us several weeks of contacting them repeatedly before their permissions
department gave permission to release the files.
Thanks,
Brian Richwine
Manager, UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers, Indiana
University
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