[Athen] Lists in Word with Roman Numerals

[Russell Solowoniuk]

Hi Pratik,

Yes, I didn't quite understand the issue. I thought folks were saying that the roman numerals weren't being read at all. I am experiencing the same thing with Jaws, where it will read "V I I" instead of "7".

Thanks,

Russell


>>> "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1 at gmail.com> 2017-02-17 12:18 PM >>>

Russel,

There isn't a difference between those. The trouble often results from JAWS,
other screen readers, or other synthesizers treating Roman numerals
differently. Not all of them recognize them. For instance, I, II, III, IV,
V, VI, VII, VIII, etc. aren't always recognized--especially after III. 

Regards,

Pratik

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Hi,

I don't understand the distinction between I., II., III, IV. and "Roman
numerals". If I open a blank Word 2016 document, go to the "Home" tab,
and within the "Paragraph", section, choose "Numbering, and from there
choose "I., II., III., and press enter, and then type in my list, Jaws
reads the numerals fine. As I said though, if there's a difference
between I., II., III. and Roman Numerals, I can't comment.

Best regards,

Russell

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>>> Joseph Sherman <Joseph.Sherman at cuny.edu> 2017-02-17 11:28 AM >>>

Easy to do if you have control over the document. Folks in admin and
legal don't like being told what to post online.

Joseph

On Feb 17, 2017 12:58 PM, Dan Comden <danc at uw.edu> wrote:
Yes, what Susan said: the Roman-ness of the numerals is not important
in a list. The structure they indicate is, and Arabic numbers or regular
letters are easy to substitute.

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Susan Kelmer
<Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu<mailto:Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>> wrote:

I*m going to chime in here.  Other responders are correct, you can
use roman numerals in the auto numbering in word, but a screen reader
won*t read them properly.



Think about the context and what you are trying to provide.  Is it
REALLY that important that the numbers be in Roman numeral format?  Or
can you just use numbers and letters instead like a regular
outline/list?  I usually just change them to numbers.  I know, it is
changing the content somewhat, but it isn*t changing what information
the content is trying to provide.  My goal is to give the student a
workable, even better than minimal, representation of the reading
material.  So, what should I be doing to make it that way?  I use
regular numbers instead.



Of course, YMMV, but that*s how we do it here.



Susan Kelmer

Alternate Format Production Program Manager

Disability Services

University of Colorado Boulder

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If I am understanding the question, yes you can create a custome list
in Word to use Roman numerals.  No, screen readers will not read them
correctly, but you can have a numbered list that uses Roman numerals.





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Subject: [Athen] Lists in Word with Roman Numerals



Hi all. As far as I can tell, using the letters *I* and *VII*
for Roman numeral in a Word list/outline are not read correctly in
screen readers. It is possible to insert the actual Roman Numeral
symbols into a Word document, however seem to be impossible to format a
list/outline using Roman Numeral symbols. Is there a way around this?



Joseph



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