[Athen] correct terminology -- audio description or video description

[E.A. Draffan]

I have some fears about having to have two terms as 'audio description' has
been accepted in many countries as being a way to describe what is happening
on the screen by using a sound track
http://hub.eaccessplus.eu/wiki/Audio_description 

When I am asked for video description by YouTube it is a piece of text to
describe the video for marketing purposes.  

Feb 2016 3PlayMedia talk about video descriptions being available in text
for screen reader users or as audio recordings.
http://www.3playmedia.com/2016/02/01/why-a-transcript-is-not-enough-to-make-
your-videos-compliant-with-accessibility-law/ 

But yes.... several US organisations supporting those who have visual
impairments and wikipedia say video descriptions are the same as audio
descriptions, although the CVAA description does not appear to be very
explicit
https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/21st-century-communications-and-video-a
ccessibility-act-cvaa  and in 3PlayMedia's brief about the CVAA - they do
not touch on the subject.  However, go to neospeech TTS suppliers
http://blog.neospeech.com/title-2-of-cvaa-video-programming/  and yes text
to speech can be used!  So can one assume that a text version for video
descriptions is allowed as long as it is accessible to AT?  

Best wishes
E.A. 

Mrs E.A. Draffan
WAIS, ECS , University of Southampton
Mobile +44 (0)7976 289103
http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk
UK AAATE rep http://www.aaate.net/




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From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] On
Behalf Of Jennifer Sutton
Sent: 03 May 2017 15:01
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list at u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: [Athen] correct terminology -- audio description or video
description

Oh, certainly. I'm very aware of audience considerations while
simultaneously assuring accuracy, such as in legal contexts.


Jennifer



On 5/3/2017 6:57 AM, Sheryl E. Burgstahler wrote:

> Jennifer,

> I agree that either term works. Having said that, those of us speaking to

newbies on the topic need to make sure to explain what we mean and share the
alternative wording in order to minimize confusion.

> Sheryl

>

> On May 3, 2017, at 6:47 AM, Jennifer Sutton <jsuttondc at gmail.com> wrote:

>

>> Thanks, all, for your responses.

>>

>> I did reach out to someone who used to be at WGBH, and that response

dovetails with what you say here, Steve.

>>

>>

>> My ultimate take-away, as in so many things accessibility-related is that

which term one uses will depend on context.

>>

>>

>> I don't think it is a matter of personal preference, at least in some

cases.

>>

>>

>> As I understand it (and suspected when I asked the question), there's a

lot of history and politics behind why there are two terms (and I don't just
mean U.S. government politics).

>>

>>

>> As I understand it, when referring to CVAA, I think "video description"

may be the preferred term.

>>

>>

>> My concern with relying on the W3C is that they may be less aware of the

U.S. situation, and in the context of some of what I am doing, that will
matter.

>>

>>

>> As in so many things, language does matter, and I'm glad I understand the

ramifications of the two terms.

>>

>>

>> Again, thanks to all for your input.

>>

>>

>> Best,

>>

>> Jennifer

>>

>>

>>

>> On 5/3/2017 5:51 AM, steve.noble at louisville.edu wrote:

>>> Hi Jennifer,

>>>

>>> The terms are now interchangeable, but the federal government prefers

the term "video description" and that is the term typically used by Congress
and the FCC. For instance, in 47 CFR 79.3 "Video description of video
programming," the definition is given:

>>> "(3) Video description. The insertion of audio narrated descriptions of

a television program’s key visual elements into natural pauses between the
program’s dialogue." [see
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2011-title47-vol4/pdf/CFR-2011-title47-vol
4-sec79-3.pdf]

>>> The federal government's use of the term "video description" dates back

to the early 1990s, and perhaps before. You may want to reach out to Barry
Cronin for the real scoop, as he was one of the original developers at WGBH.
If you need his contact information, just let me know. In the mean time,
here's a nice history for you:
http://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1114571.pdf

>>>

>>> Hope that helps,

>>>   --Steve Noble

>>> steve.noble at louisville.edu

>>> 502-969-3088

>>> http://louisville.academia.edu/SteveNoble

>>>

>>>

>>> ________________________________________

>>> From: athen-list [athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] on

behalf of Jennifer Sutton [jsuttondc at gmail.com]

>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 10:14 PM

>>> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network

>>> Subject: [Athen] correct terminology -- audio description or video

description

>>>

>>> Greetings, ATHEN list folks (along with a few others I've bcc-ed):

>>>

>>>

>>> I'm sorting through my resources, and I'm confused about what the

>>> correct term is for adding audio to videos to help explain visual

>>> elements for blind people.

>>>

>>>

>>> I know that we initially called it "audio description," but I had in

>>> mind that the term was shifting to "video description" since that

>>> describes better what it is, at least to a degree.

>>>

>>>

>>> At the same time, I still see current articles and sites calling it

>>> "audio description."

>>>

>>>

>>> Does anyone have the definitive "scoop?"

>>>

>>>

>>> I'd welcome links/citations in support of responses.

>>>

>>>

>>> Is this, perhaps, one of these situations where we might *like* the term

>>> to change, but the term "audio description" is so prevalent that

>>> progress is slow?

>>>

>>>

>>> Are there legal ramifications, i.e. maybe some state laws refer to it in

>>> different ways?

>>>

>>>

>>> Thanks in advance. I'm updating some things, and I'd like to get it

right.

>>>

>>>

>>> If it doesn't matter/they're now considered simply synonymous, I'd like

>>> to know that, too.

>>>

>>>

>>> Best,

>>>

>>> Jennifer

>>>

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