From info at karlencommunications.com Wed Aug 1 04:56:21 2018 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Wed Aug 1 04:56:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Styles in Word: A Primer for Accessible Document Design new LMS and pricing Message-ID: <000801d4298e$aaace760$0006b620$@karlencommunications.com> Hi Everyone: My online course has a new home at Teachable. Teachable uses WAI-ARIA. It also lets me create a purchasing page and can accept credit cards and PayPal. I've created some multiple learner pricing too! https://karen-mccall.teachable.com/p/styles-in-word-a-primer-for-accessible- document-design If you purchase one of the multiple learner packages, I create coupons/codes that are sent to you for that number of learners. I'm working on an online course for Accessible Fillable PDF Forms and am hoping to have it available by August 15. I'll update you with the link. There is a "Karen McCall" school home page: https://karen-mccall.teachable.com/ if you want to see all courses available at any time. I am adding content to the courses as new techniques and tools become available and your registration/access doesn't expire. Please share this with anyone who might be interested in either online course. Because I can add up to 1000 learners at a time, this might be a good resource for campuses or organizations. Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ea at emptech.info Thu Aug 2 03:11:16 2018 From: ea at emptech.info (E.A. Draffan) Date: Thu Aug 2 03:11:30 2018 Subject: [Athen] Updates on accessibility FutureLearn MOOCs for Sept and Oct 2018 Message-ID: <010b01d42a49$26b3e510$741baf30$@emptech.info> Dear All We are running two MOOCs on inclusion and digital accessibility this Autumn and I wonder if you could possibly pass round the information as they have been updated to include the latest standards and guidelines. All the original materials are available as Open Education Recourses on the MOOCAP website https://moocap.gpii.eu/?page_id=839 FutureLearn Inclusive Learning and Teaching Environments Sept 3rd for three weeks - for those working in Higher Education and interested in making elearning accessible "Explore the barriers experienced by disabled students and learn how to overcome these barriers through inclusive practices." https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/inclusive-learning-teaching/ FutureLearn Digital Accessibility Oct 8th for five weeks with 8 universities discussing different aspects of digital technologies and accessibility from the developer and user's point of view with case studies, new technologies and the latest news about legal standards and guidelines for web, mobile, documents, IoT etc. When there is "a better understanding of users' needs, technologies can be developed to be accessible & provide a more inclusive environment" https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/digital-accessibility Thank you so much Best wishes E.A. 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As of 10am today we had 187 publisher audits and 144 aggregator/platform audits. Compared to the 2016 e-book accessibility audit we have already covered a bigger range of publishers and platform providers which is absolutely brilliant news! ? The audit will remain open until Wednesday 15th August so there is still plenty of time to get involved. As ever, we are extremely grateful for your help. What you can do to help ? For a step-by-step summary of what to do and links to all the relevant resources please go to https://tinyurl.com/aspirego (or the full URL - if that one gets blocked by your browser) ? If you have already 'bagged' a publisher/aggregator on the signup sheets (see slide 4 of instructions), please ensure you fill in the audits for your chosen suppliers as soon as possible. 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Here are a couple of place we've already looked: * http://www.acb.org/adp/dvdsalpha.html * http://www.acb.org/adp/masterad.html * http://www.acb.org/adp/netflixadother.html All are from American Council of the Blind. Are there other places we could look? -- Corrine Schoeb Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS 610-957-6208 *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including by email. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and the security of our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lissner.2 at osu.edu Fri Aug 3 07:05:28 2018 From: lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, Scott) Date: Fri Aug 3 07:06:37 2018 Subject: [Athen] Where to look for video which has audio description In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Corrine, I am thinking you are looking for something parallel to the Guttenberg Project or Bookshare or ATN but for described material. I do not know of any index or repository of audio described material if the publisher/distributer does not have a described version available. On 8/3/18, 9:36 AM, "athen-list on behalf of Corrine Schoeb" on behalf of kschoeb1@swarthmore.edu> wrote: Hi all, We are hoping to find videos which has been audio described. The videos are foreign language (Spanish in this case). Here are a couple of place we've already looked: * http://www.acb.org/adp/dvdsalpha.html * http://www.acb.org/adp/masterad.html * http://www.acb.org/adp/netflixadother.html All are from American Council of the Blind. Are there other places we could look? -- Corrine Schoeb Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS 610-957-6208 *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including by email. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and the security of our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aylessr at uwm.edu Fri Aug 3 10:56:23 2018 From: aylessr at uwm.edu (Shannon R Aylesworth) Date: Fri Aug 3 10:56:47 2018 Subject: [Athen] Where to look for video which has audio description In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Described and Captioned Media Program might be an option to explore. https://dcmp.org/ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Lissner, Scott Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 9:05 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Where to look for video which has audio description Corrine, I am thinking you are looking for something parallel to the Guttenberg Project or Bookshare or ATN but for described material. I do not know of any index or repository of audio described material if the publisher/distributer does not have a described version available. On 8/3/18, 9:36 AM, "athen-list on behalf of Corrine Schoeb" on behalf of kschoeb1@swarthmore.edu> wrote: Hi all, We are hoping to find videos which has been audio described. The videos are foreign language (Spanish in this case). Here are a couple of place we've already looked: * http://www.acb.org/adp/dvdsalpha.html * http://www.acb.org/adp/masterad.html * http://www.acb.org/adp/netflixadother.html All are from American Council of the Blind. Are there other places we could look? -- Corrine Schoeb Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS 610-957-6208 *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including by email. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and the security of our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolyn.speer at wichita.edu Fri Aug 3 12:57:55 2018 From: carolyn.speer at wichita.edu (Speer, Carolyn) Date: Fri Aug 3 12:58:22 2018 Subject: [Athen] Are you willing to promote Message-ID: I wonder if you would be willing to promote some online accessibility training that Wichita State University is offering this fall? We have two, fully online, half-credit badge classes available, and because of scholarships, the cost to take one of them will be $0 for most people. I thought this might be good for the listserv? Here are the particulars: Wichita State?s accessibility badges are appropriate for both faculty and staff of all kinds. The two classes now available are: * Accessibility?s Legal Landscape * Accessibility, Accommodations, and UDL The classes are set up to be self-paced, and people can enroll in them whenever they want during the semester (up to two weeks before the close of fall term), but he scholarship opportunity expires on September 14th. Here is the scholarship information: * Scholarships These badge classes do not require textbooks or any other paid materials, and even the more theory-driven parts are designed to have practical use in people?s lives. People who successfully complete them (85% overall points received, and assessments can be re-done until the person is satisfied with their score) receives an official WSU digital credential through the Credly service and a transcripted half-credit of undergraduate credit. If you think this would be useful to the AHEAD folks or others, I?d love to have you help spread the word, Thanks, Carolyn -- Carolyn I. Speer, Ph.D., CPACC Manager Instructional Design and Access Part of the Media Resources Center Wichita State University You Teach. We Help. https://wichitastate.zoom.us/my/carolynspeer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolyn.speer at wichita.edu Fri Aug 3 12:59:27 2018 From: carolyn.speer at wichita.edu (Speer, Carolyn) Date: Fri Aug 3 12:59:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] sorry, Athen, not AHEAD! Message-ID: <3B95E58A-620D-4A6A-8F93-81C44FBCF702@wichita.edu> Editing is so much easier after and email is sent. My last request mention ?AHEAD folks? when I obviously meant Athen. Sorry about that, Carolyn -- Carolyn I. Speer, Ph.D., CPACC Manager Instructional Design and Access Part of the Media Resources Center Wichita State University You Teach. We Help. https://wichitastate.zoom.us/my/carolynspeer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From learn at vt.edu Mon Aug 6 07:10:06 2018 From: learn at vt.edu (Robert Fentress) Date: Mon Aug 6 07:10:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] Where to look for video which has audio description In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not sure if this is exactly what you are looking for, but are you aware of YouDescribe (https://youdescribe.org)? It is an online tool where folks can crowdsource audio descriptions of YouTube videos. Even if that is not what you need, you may want to try contacting the person behind that project, Joshua Miele (https://www.ski.org/users/joshua-miele), because he could probably point you in the right direction. Best, Rob On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 9:34 AM Corrine Schoeb wrote: > Hi all, > > We are hoping to find videos which has been audio described. The videos > are foreign language (Spanish in this case). > > Here are a couple of place we've already looked: > > - http://www.acb.org/adp/dvdsalpha.html > - http://www.acb.org/adp/masterad.html > - http://www.acb.org/adp/netflixadother.html > > All are from American Council of the Blind. Are there other places we > could look? > > -- > > Corrine Schoeb > Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS > 610-957-6208 > > *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including > by email. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and the > security of our network. > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- *Rob Fentress* *Web Accessibility Solutions Designer* Accessible Technologies at Virginia Tech Electronic Business Card (vCard) LinkedIn Profile VT Zoom Personal Conferencing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tristenbreitenfeldt at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 18:10:22 2018 From: tristenbreitenfeldt at gmail.com (Tristen Breitenfeldt (Wipro Ltd.)) Date: Mon Aug 6 18:10:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] Where to look for video which has audio description Message-ID: <004301d42deb$6acb2650$406172f0$@gmail.com> Hello, If you go to https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Login?recentlyAdded=true&targetSe ction=Movie_Vault&errMsg=The%20page%20you%20requested%20requires%20authenitc ation. You can register for an account and download movies with video description for free. The catch is that the movies are in mp3 format, so there are no visual elements for sighted people to watch. These movies are audio only, which works great for people who are blind. Tristen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From akosakowski at baypath.edu Tue Aug 7 05:47:11 2018 From: akosakowski at baypath.edu (Adam Kosakowski) Date: Tue Aug 7 05:47:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Sonocent Impressions Message-ID: Hello all, My university is officially exploring Sonocent as a potential replacement for most notetaking needs. We might even be getting a university-wide license! Any of you who have experience with Sonocent on your campus, could you share some feedback? What do you and your students enjoy about Sonocent? Any concerns? Tips for implementing successfully on our campus? Thanks in advance! -Adam *Adam Kosakowski* Coordinator of Student AccessAbility Services AccessAbility Services (formerly Student Disability Services): Room 107 in Blake Phone: 413-565-1607 Fax: 413-565-1610 Email: akosakowski@baypath.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Tue Aug 7 05:57:50 2018 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Tue Aug 7 05:58:10 2018 Subject: [Athen] Sonocent Impressions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You should take advantage of the pilot if they're still offering that. This is what I did and I also used the surveys they supplied to collect students' satisfaction with the program. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 8:53 AM Adam Kosakowski wrote: > Hello all, > > My university is officially exploring Sonocent as a potential replacement > for most notetaking needs. We might even be getting a > university-wide license! Any of you who have experience with Sonocent on > your campus, could you share some feedback? What do you and your students > enjoy about Sonocent? Any concerns? Tips for implementing successfully on > our campus? > > Thanks in advance! > -Adam > > *Adam Kosakowski* > Coordinator of Student AccessAbility Services > AccessAbility Services (formerly Student Disability Services): Room 107 in > Blake > Phone: 413-565-1607 > Fax: 413-565-1610 > Email: akosakowski@baypath.edu > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Includes all workshops, Wednesday to Friday (keynote dinner not included). - Hotel accommodations for the conference (up to 3 nights) at the official conference hotel, Westin Westminster. - Professional Membership in ATHEN for 1 year. The Award is open to those who: - Have never attended the Accessing Higher Ground conference. - Are currently employed at a post-secondary institution in the field of access technology. For full details about the Award and the application process, please visit: https://athenpro.org/content/ron-stewart-professional-development-award The application deadline is September 1, 2018. We look forward to supporting new professionals in access technology! Thank you, ATHEN Executive Council Please note: Recipient with be responsible for all travel costs and meals. No monetary award or reimbursement is provided. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any suggestions you can share would be most appreciated! Melissa Melissa Green (she/her/hers) Technology Accessibility Training Specialist Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama A204C Gordon Palmer Hall Box 870248 Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 Phone 205-348-8548 mfgreen1@ua.edu | http://accessibility.ua.edu [University of Alabama] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 6054 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From thaddeus.nelson at stonybrook.edu Fri Aug 10 07:03:15 2018 From: thaddeus.nelson at stonybrook.edu (Thaddeus Nelson) Date: Fri Aug 10 07:03:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessible PowerPoint handout PDFs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Is there any specific reason you want to switch to 3 slides per page? Is this to save printing costs/resources? If so, it may be worth just eating the cost in favor of better accessibility. Thaddeus Nelson, PhD Adjunct Instructor, SUNY Suffolk Office Manager, Student Accessibility Support Center, Stony Brook University On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Green, Melissa wrote: > Hi all, > > > > Can anyone provide guidance on saving or exporting a PowerPoint > presentation as an 3 Slides per page handout PDF in a way that yields the > most accessible results? I understand the resulting PDF will always require > some accessibility touch-ups, but the approaches I?ve tried so far have > yielded pretty dismal results. > > > > I?m working with PowerPoint 2016 for Windows and Adobe Acrobat Pro DC but > also have access to PowerPoint for Office 365 and PowerPoint 2016 for Mac. > > > > Any suggestions you can share would be most appreciated! > > > > Melissa > > > > *Melissa Green *(she/her/hers) > > Technology Accessibility Training Specialist > > Office of Information Technology > *The University of Alabama * > A204C Gordon Palmer Hall > Box 870248 > Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 > Phone *205-348-8548 <205-348-8548>* > *mfgreen1@ua.edu * | *http://accessibility.ua.edu > * > > [image: University of Alabama] > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of Thaddeus Nelson Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 10:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] accessible PowerPoint handout PDFs Hello Is there any specific reason you want to switch to 3 slides per page? Is this to save printing costs/resources? If so, it may be worth just eating the cost in favor of better accessibility. Thaddeus Nelson, PhD Adjunct Instructor, SUNY Suffolk Office Manager, Student Accessibility Support Center, Stony Brook University On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Green, Melissa > wrote: Hi all, Can anyone provide guidance on saving or exporting a PowerPoint presentation as an 3 Slides per page handout PDF in a way that yields the most accessible results? I understand the resulting PDF will always require some accessibility touch-ups, but the approaches I?ve tried so far have yielded pretty dismal results. I?m working with PowerPoint 2016 for Windows and Adobe Acrobat Pro DC but also have access to PowerPoint for Office 365 and PowerPoint 2016 for Mac. Any suggestions you can share would be most appreciated! Melissa Melissa Green (she/her/hers) Technology Accessibility Training Specialist Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama A204C Gordon Palmer Hall Box 870248 Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 Phone 205-348-8548 mfgreen1@ua.edu | http://accessibility.ua.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I tend to use the slides for the webinar/presentation and distribute the DOCX file as a tagged PDF. I've attached an example of the accessible version of one of my presentations along with the presentation slides as tagged PDF. It took me longer to make the PDF document accessible than to format the presentation in Word. I know this doesn't answer your question, but it might be an option. Tagging from PowerPoint using either the Microsoft or Adobe tools is horrible right now. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of Green, Melissa Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:32 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] accessible PowerPoint handout PDFs Hi all, Can anyone provide guidance on saving or exporting a PowerPoint presentation as an 3 Slides per page handout PDF in a way that yields the most accessible results? I understand the resulting PDF will always require some accessibility touch-ups, but the approaches I've tried so far have yielded pretty dismal results. 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The forum will focus on disability and its intersections with race, ethnicity, gender, and sexuality, in non-U.S. contexts, with the joint aims of U.S.-based activists/organizers/advocates learning from our counterparts outside the U.S., and building stronger connections with leaders and organizations abroad for future collaborations. You may RSVP on our Facebook page , and buy tickets in advance or at the door. Suggested cost $25.00 or whatever you can. Speakers will include the following: *Sarah Jama* is a Somali-Canadian community organizer from Hamilton, Ontario. She is co-founder of the Disability Justice Network of Ontario (DJNO) and holds a Social Sciences degree from McMaster University. Her lived experiences have fostered interests and a passion for: community engagement, disability justice, and activism. *Khairani Barokka* is an Indonesian writer, poet, and artist in London, whose work has been presented extensively in twelve countries. Okka has received six residencies and multiple grants; among her honours, she was an NYU Tisch Departmental Fellow for her masters, and is a UNFPA Indonesian Young Leader Driving Social Change for arts practice and research. *Kiran Anthony Foster* is a mixed-race immigrant sex worker living in auckland, new zealand. a staunch prison abolitionist, anti-imperialist marxist, and disability/queer rights activist, their continued history of radical advocacy is informed by having been born into a culture of silence as an autistic, psychotic and intersex child *Freyja Haraldsd?ttir* is a feminist disability activist and the founder of Tab?, an intersectional feminist disability movement in Iceland. In her work for Tab? she has focused on activism around reducing violence against disabled people and building up platforms of peer support and empowerment workshops and activism for disabled people of all genders. *Finn Gardiner* is a tireless disability rights advocate, primarily interested in educational equity, intersectional justice, comparative policy, and inclusive technology. He holds a Master of Public Policy degree from the Heller School for Social Policy and Management at Brandeis University. *Maria (Conchita) Hernandez Legorreta* was born in Mexico and grew up in California. She is currently a Doctoral student at George Washington University pursuing a degree in Special Education. Conchita is founder of METAS, a non-profit organization that trains educators in Latin America that work with blind/low vision students and students with other disabilities. *Ayman Eckford* is a neurodiversity, disability justice and queer activist, intersectional feminist and radical youth liberationist. They are autistic multiple neurodivergent queer Jewish refugee born in Donetsk, in the east of Ukraine, who moved to St. Petersburg, Russia after the outbreak of the civil war. *Lina Ekford* is autistic bisexual woman who live in St. Petersburg, Russia. Together with her wife Ayman, she runs Autistic initiative for civil rights and a number of projects about autism and disability. *Shiri Eisner* is a bisexual, genderqueer, and feminist activist and writer. She is also Mizrahi, vegan, disabled, an anarchist, a geek, a metalhead, and a crazy cat lady. She is the author of the book *Bi: Notes for a Bisexual Revolution*, the founder of the bi community in Israel/Occupied Palestine, and a long time organizer in various local social justice and radical left movements. *Sara M. Acevedo* is an autistic mestiza, educator, and disability justice advocate born and raised in Colombia. Sara holds a Masters of Liberal Arts with a focus on Disability Studies from Temple University in Philadelphia and a PhD in Anthropology and Social Change from the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) in San Francisco. *Toril Heglum* is a feminist disability rights advocate who is Project Manager for Empowerment and Supported Decision-Making at Uloba, Independent Living Norway. She is also a former county elected official, and co-editor of *Med Vitende Og Vilje*, on disability and discrimination. You can read much more about our speakers and their work on the forum's website . We hope to see you in Boston in August! *Access information*: We are working to ensure ASL interpretation, CART captioning, and interpretation into at least Spanish and Russian during the forum. We will also endeavor to livestream panels, with more information about livestreaming coming soon. For attendees/participants in Boston, the building and rooms are physically accessible, with accessible and gender-neutral bathrooms available. Attendees/participants are asked to arrive scent/fragrance free for the health, safety, and comfort of fellow attendees/participants. Similarly, no FLASH photography will be allowed for the health, safety, and comfort of fellow attendees/participants. There will also be a sensory break room available on-site. Parking is available within 0.5 to 1.0 miles distance from the site. Public transit is accessible within 0.2 miles distance. **This event will be ticketed* * You may RSVP on our Facebook page , and buy tickets in advance . You may also pay what you can at the door. Suggested cost $25.00 or whatever you can. Donations to support this programming and making it accessible are welcome. Please send donations to the Autistic Women & Nonbinary Network and indicate that the donation is for the August DIS Pre-Conference Forum. Please direct questions about this forum to Lydia Brown at lydia@autistichoya.com or +1 202-618-0187. ______________ *Lydia X. Z. Brown * (they/them/theirs) lydia@autistichoya.com +1 (202) 618-0187 www.autistichoya.net ??No? might make them angry. but it will make you free. ? if no one has ever told you, your freedom is more important than their anger? ? Nayyirah Waheed ?Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing.? ? Arundhati Roy ?Life is short and the world is at least half terrible, and for every kind stranger, there is one who would break you, though I keep this from my children. I am trying to sell them the world. 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URL: From dandrews at visi.com Fri Aug 10 13:13:06 2018 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Fri Aug 10 13:56:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] ePub readers, again In-Reply-To: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA84013E29F571@EROS2.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> References: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA84013E29F571@EROS2.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: Apples ibooks will read them as will edge from Microsoft those are probably your easiest options Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 10, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Robert Beach wrote: > > Hi all, > > I know there was some discussion on this recently, but I need a refresher. > > What apps are available to read ePub books? Does iBooks read them? > > Thanks. > > > Robert Lee Beach > Assistive Technology Specialist > Kansas City Kansas Community College > 7250 State Avenue > Kansas City, KS 66112 > Phone: 913-288-7671 > Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kerscher at montana.com Fri Aug 10 14:28:49 2018 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Fri Aug 10 14:29:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] ePub readers, again In-Reply-To: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA84013E29F571@EROS2.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> References: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA84013E29F571@EROS2.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: <003201d430f1$2130e0d0$6392a270$@montana.com> Hello Robert, Yes, Apple Books are EPUB, and the app supports sideloading. Google Playbooks, Kobo, VitalSource, RedShelf, and many more support EPUB. Excellent testing of EPUB reading Apps can be found at: http://epubtest.org/testsuite/accessibility/ Based on this testing a summary review of recommended Apps can be found on the InclusivePublishing.org website at: https://inclusivepublishing.org/blog/june-2018-epub-reading-apps-accessibili ty-support/ Also, Edge now natively supports reading of EPUB, and they plan to fix some of the bugs we reported. Feel free to contact me with any questions. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 1:50 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] ePub readers, again Hi all, I know there was some discussion on this recently, but I need a refresher. What apps are available to read ePub books? Does iBooks read them? Thanks. 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Please note that images will not be accessible to blind or low vision users, but you may be able to offset that with the AIRA service to provide audio descriptions of your presentation/course. If users are techie, they may use Seeing AI to describe the images and read text/handwriting aloud to the user. Extra points if you print the presentation on LiveScribe paper (wifi smartpen) or the Echo/Pulse paper. :) Best, Joshua Hori Accessible Technology Analyst Student Disability Center 54 Cowell Building Davis, CA 95616 530-752-3184 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Green, Melissa Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 6:32 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] accessible PowerPoint handout PDFs Hi all, Can anyone provide guidance on saving or exporting a PowerPoint presentation as an 3 Slides per page handout PDF in a way that yields the most accessible results? I understand the resulting PDF will always require some accessibility touch-ups, but the approaches I've tried so far have yielded pretty dismal results. I'm working with PowerPoint 2016 for Windows and Adobe Acrobat Pro DC but also have access to PowerPoint for Office 365 and PowerPoint 2016 for Mac. Any suggestions you can share would be most appreciated! Melissa Melissa Green (she/her/hers) Technology Accessibility Training Specialist Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama A204C Gordon Palmer Hall Box 870248 Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 Phone 205-348-8548 mfgreen1@ua.edu | http://accessibility.ua.edu [University of Alabama] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 6054 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask! ***** Hello all, At the 2017 Accessing Higher Ground Conference, the ATHEN membership approved the Ron Stewart Professional Development Award in honor of one of the founding members of ATHEN. In 2002, Ron Stewart helped to start the Access Technology Higher Education Network (ATHEN) while continuing to work in the field of access technology. The Ron Stewart Professional Development Award supports Ron's mission to nurture access technology professionals in higher education. To accomplish this, the Award will support a first-time attendee in attending the Accessing Higher Ground conference. The Award includes: - Standard Main Conference Registration Package for 2018 Accessing Higher Ground Conference. Includes all workshops, Wednesday to Friday (keynote dinner not included). - Hotel accommodations for the conference (up to 3 nights) at the official conference hotel, Westin Westminster. - Professional Membership in ATHEN for 1 year. The Award is open to those who: - Have never attended the Accessing Higher Ground conference. - Are currently employed at a post-secondary institution in the field of access technology. For full details about the Award and the application process, please visit: https://athenpro.org/content/ron-stewart-professional-development-award The application deadline is September 1, 2018. We look forward to supporting new professionals in access technology! Thank you, ATHEN Executive Council Please note: Recipient with be responsible for all travel costs and meals. No monetary award or reimbursement is provided. ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. Disability Resource Center University of Arizona 520-626-9409 hunziker@email.arizona.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tmariotti at mvcc.edu Mon Aug 13 10:09:07 2018 From: tmariotti at mvcc.edu (Tamara Mariotti) Date: Mon Aug 13 10:09:17 2018 Subject: [Athen] A & P 3D/Tactile materials Message-ID: Hello Athen's list, I am working with a student who is completely blind and is taking A&P on our campus this fall semester. I am working with the professors to locate models of tissues, or create tactile soft tissue models. I have been exploring using 3D printers. However, with 3D we need designed files that will work with a 3D printer. 1. Does anyone have files that they are willing to share for 3d images for a 3D printer for A&P? I don't want to re-invent the wheel! 2. Do you have any vendor contacts to purchase plates or models of the different tissues types that are tactile. The lab professor mentioned this: "The students learn that there are 4 main tissue types: epithelial, connective, muscle and nervous tissue. They then learn the different types of each of these tissues, like stratified squamous epithelium, simple squamous epithelium, etc. There are 8 different connective tissues-cartilage, adipose, reticular, etc. A big part of learning these is looking at the pictures and learning the description of each. 3. I already purchased this through American Printing house for the blind: https://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_Basic%20Tactile%20Anatomy%20Atlas_1-08845-00P_10001_11051 Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Tamara Mariotti Coordinator of the Office of Accessibility Resources (OAR) Co-Chair NYSED Advisory Council for SWD in Post-Secondary Education Mohawk Valley Community College Payne Hall 104H 1101 Sherman Drive Utica, NY 13502 Voice 315-731-5702 Fax 315-731-5868 https://www.mvcc.edu/accessibility-resources [mvcc logo] Proud member of: [NYSDSC 2016 Logo for email sig] "Disability is not a 'brave struggle' or 'courage in the face of adversity'. 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Amy Amy Rovner, MPH RD Instructional Designer eLearning Services Shoreline Community College www.shoreline.edu | 206.546.6937 eLearning Office: 206.546.6966 Pronouns: she, her, hers [Shoreline Community College] eLearning Service Help Center Faculty Canvas 24/7 Help via Chat Faculty Canvas 24/7 Phone Help: 1-888-672-2040 Student Canvas 24/7 Help via Chat Drop in help with basic computing From: athen-list On Behalf Of Krista Greear Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 7:07 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] music scores in Braille, PDF, hardcopy and what else? An interesting question was posed to me recently. Aside from music Braille, PDFs, and hardcopies, what formats are people producing for music scores? Or rather, what formats would you LIKE musical scores to be in (i.e. ePub?). Krista -- Krista Greear Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mfgreen1 at ua.edu Tue Aug 14 06:53:43 2018 From: mfgreen1 at ua.edu (Green, Melissa) Date: Tue Aug 14 06:54:17 2018 Subject: [Athen] accessible PowerPoint handout PDFs In-Reply-To: <000001d430b5$52f7eaa0$f8e7bfe0$@karlencommunications.com> References: <000001d430b5$52f7eaa0$f8e7bfe0$@karlencommunications.com> Message-ID: <9af44bc9ef8841179890554321d91b27@ua.edu> Thanks, Karen and Thaddeus, for your responses. I shared them with the person who reached out to me about this. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:21 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] accessible PowerPoint handout PDFs When I provide an accessible handout/digital handout for PowerPoint, I provide a DOCX version of the presentation converted to tagged PDF. I save the PowerPoint as an outline/RTF, save it as a DOCX and then format it using Headings. I copy and paste the images into the Word document and put the slide number at the end of the Heading text. Currently, exporting PowerPoint to accessible PDF is simply dismal and we've regressed in terms of tagging. While I do occasionally Tag the PowerPoint itself, there is a LOT of cleanup. I tend to use the slides for the webinar/presentation and distribute the DOCX file as a tagged PDF. I've attached an example of the accessible version of one of my presentations along with the presentation slides as tagged PDF. It took me longer to make the PDF document accessible than to format the presentation in Word. I know this doesn't answer your question, but it might be an option. Tagging from PowerPoint using either the Microsoft or Adobe tools is horrible right now. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Green, Melissa Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:32 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] accessible PowerPoint handout PDFs Hi all, Can anyone provide guidance on saving or exporting a PowerPoint presentation as an 3 Slides per page handout PDF in a way that yields the most accessible results? I understand the resulting PDF will always require some accessibility touch-ups, but the approaches I've tried so far have yielded pretty dismal results. I'm working with PowerPoint 2016 for Windows and Adobe Acrobat Pro DC but also have access to PowerPoint for Office 365 and PowerPoint 2016 for Mac. Any suggestions you can share would be most appreciated! Melissa Melissa Green (she/her/hers) Technology Accessibility Training Specialist Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama A204C Gordon Palmer Hall Box 870248 Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 Phone 205-348-8548 mfgreen1@ua.edu | http://accessibility.ua.edu [University of Alabama] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 6054 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From dkrahmer at colgate.edu Tue Aug 14 07:00:56 2018 From: dkrahmer at colgate.edu (Debbie Krahmer) Date: Tue Aug 14 07:01:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] designing an accessible map of our campus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I used TouchMapper to create a couple small, useable tactile maps for our campus. It depends on whether your campus has a good map on Open Street Map, though. https://touch-mapper.org/en/ They printed out very nicely on a 3D printer if you have one, or I think you can order them from the site. We were also looking at using a software called MeshMixer to create the 3d printable map by hand, but TouchMapper worked out much better for us. Thanks, D. ______________ Debbie Krahmer Preferred Pronouns: My name/no pronouns Associate Professor in the Libraries Accessible Technology & Government Documents Librarian 304 Case-Geyer Colgate University 315-228-6592 dkrahmer@colgate.edu On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Kevin Andrews wrote: > Hey fellow pros, > > I'm blind, and I have a strong interest in accessible wayfinding, for both > digital and tactile maps with Braille and, more recently I've been seeing, > auditory information being provided. If your school has an accessible > tactile map either digital or good ol' thermoform paper, I'm curious how > that was done and if you can share any insights with me? I"m on the prowl > to make an accessible map of our campus and curious what other institutions > have done before us? > > Thanks! > -- > Best, > > Kevin Andrews > Pronouns: He/Him/His > Accessible Technology Coordinator, > Scribes and Readers Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > University of California, Santa Cruz > Website: drc.ucsc.edu > > > Direct Line: 831 459-1262 > > Please allow 24 hours for a response. 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Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:51 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Hi all, I am familiar with adding alt text to a table in Word to make it accessible for a screen reader. If the table is a 3 column, 3 row table, for example, do I need an alt text to describe the content in row 1, column 1, row 1 column 2, etc? 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Depending on the table, you might also note any extreme values. For example, in a table listing populations of various areas and rates of population growth, you might initially state which had the highest or lowest populations, or the highest or lowest rates of growth. But keep it brief. That's how I do it at this point, at least, but I'm always happy to learn better ways! Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence | Georgia Gwinnett College | Lawrenceville, GA From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:58 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Just F.Y.I., my understanding is the alt text for tables is going away. But, if you want to use it, I would not include that much detail. I would simply say how many rows and columns are in the table and what the table is supposed to present. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:51 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Hi all, I am familiar with adding alt text to a table in Word to make it accessible for a screen reader. If the table is a 3 column, 3 row table, for example, do I need an alt text to describe the content in row 1, column 1, row 1 column 2, etc? Thanks, bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7792 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From SAMAROSITZ at pasadena.edu Tue Aug 14 12:45:32 2018 From: SAMAROSITZ at pasadena.edu (S A. Marositz) Date: Tue Aug 14 12:45:46 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word In-Reply-To: References: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA84013E2A0847@EROS2.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: Hi All There is no reason to include alt-text for tables in your workflow. As far as I know, screen readers do not read the alt-text for tables in word. What is important is to include a bookmark indicating the scope of your column and row headers. Both Jaws and NVD respect this convention. http://www.perkinselearning.org/technology/digital-transitions/creating-accessible-table-word I hope this helps Stephen Alexander Marositz JD, CPACC Assistive Technology Specialist, Pasadena City College Phone: (626) 585-7242 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Christine Robinson Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 12:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Keep in mind that a screen reader will read the content of the table, right to left, top to bottom - and it'll identify the column headings - so you don't need to repeat what the screen reader is already going to communicate. Think about how, when you see a table, the first thing you do is scan for an overall idea of what it's about and why it's there. Also think about what you would say if you were reading the document aloud to someone. Before you read the table contents, you'd probably say a sentence or two about the general content & purpose. Depending on the table, you might also note any extreme values. For example, in a table listing populations of various areas and rates of population growth, you might initially state which had the highest or lowest populations, or the highest or lowest rates of growth. But keep it brief. That's how I do it at this point, at least, but I'm always happy to learn better ways! Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence | Georgia Gwinnett College | Lawrenceville, GA From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:58 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Just F.Y.I., my understanding is the alt text for tables is going away. But, if you want to use it, I would not include that much detail. I would simply say how many rows and columns are in the table and what the table is supposed to present. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:51 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Hi all, I am familiar with adding alt text to a table in Word to make it accessible for a screen reader. If the table is a 3 column, 3 row table, for example, do I need an alt text to describe the content in row 1, column 1, row 1 column 2, etc? Thanks, bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7792 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From crobinson at ggc.edu Tue Aug 14 12:55:21 2018 From: crobinson at ggc.edu (Christine Robinson) Date: Tue Aug 14 12:55:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word In-Reply-To: References: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA84013E2A0847@EROS2.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: I have read that screen readers read the content of the alt text description box in Word, but (like with alt text for images) they do not read the subject line. But what I read, may not be true. Is there a screen reader expert out there, reading these, who can clarify? Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence Georgia Gwinnett College | 1000 University Center Lane | Lawrenceville, GA 30043 From: athen-list On Behalf Of S A. Marositz Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:46 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Hi All There is no reason to include alt-text for tables in your workflow. As far as I know, screen readers do not read the alt-text for tables in word. What is important is to include a bookmark indicating the scope of your column and row headers. Both Jaws and NVD respect this convention. http://www.perkinselearning.org/technology/digital-transitions/creating-accessible-table-word I hope this helps Stephen Alexander Marositz JD, CPACC Assistive Technology Specialist, Pasadena City College Phone: (626) 585-7242 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Christine Robinson Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 12:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Keep in mind that a screen reader will read the content of the table, right to left, top to bottom - and it'll identify the column headings - so you don't need to repeat what the screen reader is already going to communicate. Think about how, when you see a table, the first thing you do is scan for an overall idea of what it's about and why it's there. Also think about what you would say if you were reading the document aloud to someone. Before you read the table contents, you'd probably say a sentence or two about the general content & purpose. Depending on the table, you might also note any extreme values. For example, in a table listing populations of various areas and rates of population growth, you might initially state which had the highest or lowest populations, or the highest or lowest rates of growth. But keep it brief. That's how I do it at this point, at least, but I'm always happy to learn better ways! Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence | Georgia Gwinnett College | Lawrenceville, GA From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:58 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Just F.Y.I., my understanding is the alt text for tables is going away. But, if you want to use it, I would not include that much detail. I would simply say how many rows and columns are in the table and what the table is supposed to present. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:51 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Hi all, I am familiar with adding alt text to a table in Word to make it accessible for a screen reader. If the table is a 3 column, 3 row table, for example, do I need an alt text to describe the content in row 1, column 1, row 1 column 2, etc? Thanks, bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7792 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Tue Aug 14 13:02:09 2018 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Tue Aug 14 13:02:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word In-Reply-To: References: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA84013E2A0847@EROS2.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA84013E2A08E5@EROS2.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> JAWS and NVDA both read the alt text on tables. At least they do on my systems. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Christine Robinson Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word I have read that screen readers read the content of the alt text description box in Word, but (like with alt text for images) they do not read the subject line. But what I read, may not be true. Is there a screen reader expert out there, reading these, who can clarify? Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence Georgia Gwinnett College | 1000 University Center Lane | Lawrenceville, GA 30043 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of S A. Marositz Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:46 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Hi All There is no reason to include alt-text for tables in your workflow. As far as I know, screen readers do not read the alt-text for tables in word. What is important is to include a bookmark indicating the scope of your column and row headers. Both Jaws and NVD respect this convention. http://www.perkinselearning.org/technology/digital-transitions/creating-accessible-table-word I hope this helps Stephen Alexander Marositz JD, CPACC Assistive Technology Specialist, Pasadena City College Phone: (626) 585-7242 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Christine Robinson Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 12:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Keep in mind that a screen reader will read the content of the table, right to left, top to bottom - and it'll identify the column headings - so you don't need to repeat what the screen reader is already going to communicate. Think about how, when you see a table, the first thing you do is scan for an overall idea of what it's about and why it's there. Also think about what you would say if you were reading the document aloud to someone. Before you read the table contents, you'd probably say a sentence or two about the general content & purpose. Depending on the table, you might also note any extreme values. For example, in a table listing populations of various areas and rates of population growth, you might initially state which had the highest or lowest populations, or the highest or lowest rates of growth. But keep it brief. That's how I do it at this point, at least, but I'm always happy to learn better ways! Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence | Georgia Gwinnett College | Lawrenceville, GA From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:58 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Just F.Y.I., my understanding is the alt text for tables is going away. But, if you want to use it, I would not include that much detail. I would simply say how many rows and columns are in the table and what the table is supposed to present. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:51 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Hi all, I am familiar with adding alt text to a table in Word to make it accessible for a screen reader. If the table is a 3 column, 3 row table, for example, do I need an alt text to describe the content in row 1, column 1, row 1 column 2, etc? Thanks, bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7792 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From jess.thompson at sbctc.edu Tue Aug 14 13:17:48 2018 From: jess.thompson at sbctc.edu (Jess Thompson) Date: Tue Aug 14 13:18:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word In-Reply-To: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA84013E2A08E5@EROS2.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> References: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA84013E2A0847@EROS2.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA84013E2A08E5@EROS2.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: I'm so appreciative of this thread as I get questions about alt text for tables quite often! My thinking has always been that it depends on the context. Christine's comment about noting extreme values, or those that may be called out as statistically significant (these items usually are marked up with bold or italicized text), is the only occasion for which I understand the value of including alt text. Otherwise it seems the context could be captured with the table caption. I've never heard of adding bookmarks to define scope. The website with instructions Stephen provided didn't make clear how doing this defines scope. Can someone provide more clarification? Thanks! Jess Jess Thompson Program Administrator, Accessible Technology Initiatives p: 360.704.4327 | c: 253.229.8591 Current Projects Keep in the accessibility loop by joining the CTC Accessibility listserv! From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word JAWS and NVDA both read the alt text on tables. At least they do on my systems. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Christine Robinson Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word I have read that screen readers read the content of the alt text description box in Word, but (like with alt text for images) they do not read the subject line. But what I read, may not be true. Is there a screen reader expert out there, reading these, who can clarify? Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence Georgia Gwinnett College | 1000 University Center Lane | Lawrenceville, GA 30043 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of S A. Marositz Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:46 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Hi All There is no reason to include alt-text for tables in your workflow. As far as I know, screen readers do not read the alt-text for tables in word. What is important is to include a bookmark indicating the scope of your column and row headers. Both Jaws and NVD respect this convention. http://www.perkinselearning.org/technology/digital-transitions/creating-accessible-table-word I hope this helps Stephen Alexander Marositz JD, CPACC Assistive Technology Specialist, Pasadena City College Phone: (626) 585-7242 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Christine Robinson Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 12:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Keep in mind that a screen reader will read the content of the table, right to left, top to bottom - and it'll identify the column headings - so you don't need to repeat what the screen reader is already going to communicate. Think about how, when you see a table, the first thing you do is scan for an overall idea of what it's about and why it's there. Also think about what you would say if you were reading the document aloud to someone. Before you read the table contents, you'd probably say a sentence or two about the general content & purpose. Depending on the table, you might also note any extreme values. For example, in a table listing populations of various areas and rates of population growth, you might initially state which had the highest or lowest populations, or the highest or lowest rates of growth. But keep it brief. That's how I do it at this point, at least, but I'm always happy to learn better ways! Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence | Georgia Gwinnett College | Lawrenceville, GA From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:58 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Just F.Y.I., my understanding is the alt text for tables is going away. But, if you want to use it, I would not include that much detail. I would simply say how many rows and columns are in the table and what the table is supposed to present. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:51 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Hi all, I am familiar with adding alt text to a table in Word to make it accessible for a screen reader. If the table is a 3 column, 3 row table, for example, do I need an alt text to describe the content in row 1, column 1, row 1 column 2, etc? Thanks, bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7792 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From borwigprice at cscc.edu Tue Aug 14 13:47:52 2018 From: borwigprice at cscc.edu (Brandon Orwig-Price) Date: Tue Aug 14 13:48:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word In-Reply-To: References: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA84013E2A0847@EROS2.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA84013E2A08E5@EROS2.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: One of the easiest ways that I have found is via ?Document Accessibility Toolbar? https://www.visionaustralia.org/dat it as an add-on for Word (not sure if it works on mac.) It has many useful features for testing, but my favorite is its ability to edit the underlying XML to properly set the scope for tables. Their site explains it and its various features, it is something I would definitely recommend keeping in your arsenal. As to the other question, yes screen readers will read the alt text even for tables. Using bookmarks is not something I have ever heard of using, but I found DAT and once the scope is set, any screen reader I have used will read it correctly. Provided it is not an extremely complex table anyways. In regards to subject vs description on alt text, it depends on how you have the screen reader setup in relation to images. I have it setup on my system to read both. ~Brandon Brandon Orwig-Price ? Access Specialist Disability Services ? Alternate Media COLUMBUS STATE COMMUNITY COLLEGE 550 East Spring Street, Columbus, OH 43215 (614)287-5418 | borwigprice@cscc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Jess Thompson Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 4:18 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word I?m so appreciative of this thread as I get questions about alt text for tables quite often! My thinking has always been that it depends on the context. Christine?s comment about noting extreme values, or those that may be called out as statistically significant (these items usually are marked up with bold or italicized text), is the only occasion for which I understand the value of including alt text. Otherwise it seems the context could be captured with the table caption. I?ve never heard of adding bookmarks to define scope. The website with instructions Stephen provided didn?t make clear how doing this defines scope. Can someone provide more clarification? Thanks! Jess Jess Thompson Program Administrator, Accessible Technology Initiatives p: 360.704.4327 | c: 253.229.8591 Current Projects Keep in the accessibility loop by joining the CTC Accessibility listserv! From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word JAWS and NVDA both read the alt text on tables. At least they do on my systems. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Christine Robinson Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word I have read that screen readers read the content of the alt text description box in Word, but (like with alt text for images) they do not read the subject line. But what I read, may not be true. Is there a screen reader expert out there, reading these, who can clarify? Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence Georgia Gwinnett College | 1000 University Center Lane | Lawrenceville, GA 30043 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of S A. Marositz Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:46 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Hi All There is no reason to include alt-text for tables in your workflow. As far as I know, screen readers do not read the alt-text for tables in word. What is important is to include a bookmark indicating the scope of your column and row headers. Both Jaws and NVD respect this convention. http://www.perkinselearning.org/technology/digital-transitions/creating-accessible-table-word I hope this helps Stephen Alexander Marositz JD, CPACC Assistive Technology Specialist, Pasadena City College Phone: (626) 585-7242 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Christine Robinson Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 12:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Keep in mind that a screen reader will read the content of the table, right to left, top to bottom ? and it?ll identify the column headings ? so you don?t need to repeat what the screen reader is already going to communicate. Think about how, when you see a table, the first thing you do is scan for an overall idea of what it?s about and why it?s there. Also think about what you would say if you were reading the document aloud to someone. Before you read the table contents, you?d probably say a sentence or two about the general content & purpose. Depending on the table, you might also note any extreme values. For example, in a table listing populations of various areas and rates of population growth, you might initially state which had the highest or lowest populations, or the highest or lowest rates of growth. But keep it brief. That?s how I do it at this point, at least, but I?m always happy to learn better ways! Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence | Georgia Gwinnett College | Lawrenceville, GA From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:58 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Just F.Y.I., my understanding is the alt text for tables is going away. But, if you want to use it, I would not include that much detail. I would simply say how many rows and columns are in the table and what the table is supposed to present. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:51 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Hi all, I am familiar with adding alt text to a table in Word to make it accessible for a screen reader. If the table is a 3 column, 3 row table, for example, do I need an alt text to describe the content in row 1, column 1, row 1 column 2, etc? Thanks, bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7792 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From SAMAROSITZ at pasadena.edu Tue Aug 14 17:15:53 2018 From: SAMAROSITZ at pasadena.edu (S A. Marositz) Date: Tue Aug 14 17:16:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word In-Reply-To: References: <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA84013E2A0847@EROS2.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> <34D068EC55A9914494617A37B8D8FA84013E2A08E5@EROS2.EMPLOYEES.KCKCC.LOCAL> Message-ID: Hi All Here are clearer instructions from FreedomScientific. https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/2013-09-25_ExcelAndWordHeaders/03_HeadersInWord.htm That being said, Jaws reads row and column headers fine without the bookmarks. One thing though, I am running Jaws 18 here with Office 2016 and I cannot get it to read the alt-text. I remember reading that alt-text for tables was not supported but perhaps that has changed. Does anyone know how to cause Jaws to read the alt-text? With NVDA (current version), I hear the title and ?table has long description?. Is there a way to get NVDA to actually read the long description? Thanks Again Stephen Alexander Marositz JD, CPACC Assistive Technology Specialist, Pasadena City College Phone: (626) 585-7242 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Brandon Orwig-Price Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:48 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word One of the easiest ways that I have found is via ?Document Accessibility Toolbar? https://www.visionaustralia.org/dat it as an add-on for Word (not sure if it works on mac.) It has many useful features for testing, but my favorite is its ability to edit the underlying XML to properly set the scope for tables. Their site explains it and its various features, it is something I would definitely recommend keeping in your arsenal. As to the other question, yes screen readers will read the alt text even for tables. Using bookmarks is not something I have ever heard of using, but I found DAT and once the scope is set, any screen reader I have used will read it correctly. Provided it is not an extremely complex table anyways. In regards to subject vs description on alt text, it depends on how you have the screen reader setup in relation to images. I have it setup on my system to read both. ~Brandon Brandon Orwig-Price ? Access Specialist Disability Services ? Alternate Media COLUMBUS STATE COMMUNITY COLLEGE 550 East Spring Street, Columbus, OH 43215 (614)287-5418 | borwigprice@cscc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Jess Thompson Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 4:18 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word I?m so appreciative of this thread as I get questions about alt text for tables quite often! My thinking has always been that it depends on the context. Christine?s comment about noting extreme values, or those that may be called out as statistically significant (these items usually are marked up with bold or italicized text), is the only occasion for which I understand the value of including alt text. Otherwise it seems the context could be captured with the table caption. I?ve never heard of adding bookmarks to define scope. The website with instructions Stephen provided didn?t make clear how doing this defines scope. Can someone provide more clarification? Thanks! Jess Jess Thompson Program Administrator, Accessible Technology Initiatives p: 360.704.4327 | c: 253.229.8591 Current Projects Keep in the accessibility loop by joining the CTC Accessibility listserv! From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word JAWS and NVDA both read the alt text on tables. At least they do on my systems. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Christine Robinson Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word I have read that screen readers read the content of the alt text description box in Word, but (like with alt text for images) they do not read the subject line. But what I read, may not be true. Is there a screen reader expert out there, reading these, who can clarify? Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence Georgia Gwinnett College | 1000 University Center Lane | Lawrenceville, GA 30043 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of S A. Marositz Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:46 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Hi All There is no reason to include alt-text for tables in your workflow. As far as I know, screen readers do not read the alt-text for tables in word. What is important is to include a bookmark indicating the scope of your column and row headers. Both Jaws and NVD respect this convention. http://www.perkinselearning.org/technology/digital-transitions/creating-accessible-table-word I hope this helps Stephen Alexander Marositz JD, CPACC Assistive Technology Specialist, Pasadena City College Phone: (626) 585-7242 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Christine Robinson Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 12:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Keep in mind that a screen reader will read the content of the table, right to left, top to bottom ? and it?ll identify the column headings ? so you don?t need to repeat what the screen reader is already going to communicate. Think about how, when you see a table, the first thing you do is scan for an overall idea of what it?s about and why it?s there. Also think about what you would say if you were reading the document aloud to someone. Before you read the table contents, you?d probably say a sentence or two about the general content & purpose. Depending on the table, you might also note any extreme values. For example, in a table listing populations of various areas and rates of population growth, you might initially state which had the highest or lowest populations, or the highest or lowest rates of growth. But keep it brief. That?s how I do it at this point, at least, but I?m always happy to learn better ways! Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence | Georgia Gwinnett College | Lawrenceville, GA From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:58 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Just F.Y.I., my understanding is the alt text for tables is going away. But, if you want to use it, I would not include that much detail. I would simply say how many rows and columns are in the table and what the table is supposed to present. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:51 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] Accessible tables in Word Hi all, I am familiar with adding alt text to a table in Word to make it accessible for a screen reader. If the table is a 3 column, 3 row table, for example, do I need an alt text to describe the content in row 1, column 1, row 1 column 2, etc? Thanks, bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7792 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From sschenck at memphis.edu Wed Aug 15 07:44:07 2018 From: sschenck at memphis.edu (Stephen Michael Schenck (sschenck)) Date: Wed Aug 15 07:44:23 2018 Subject: [Athen] ADA and MPlus Message-ID: Hello All, I am trying to find out if anyone has heard about the ADA suing Universities for using MPlus because it is not ADA Compliant. The chair of my department was told that MPlus users were being sued but we have not found anything about this being the case. Please any information anyone is willing to share I would greatly appreciate it. Thank You, Stephen Michael Schenck Adjunct Instructor Departmental Assistant Department of Psychology [cid:c3184cc5-d6b8-4fd7-8b5b-c358a66df466] The University of Memphis 202 Psychology Building Memphis, TN 38152 901.678.2145 | sschenck@memphis.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Outlook-knadshz5.png Type: image/png Size: 6949 bytes Desc: Outlook-knadshz5.png URL: From krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com Wed Aug 15 10:58:17 2018 From: krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com (Krista Greear) Date: Wed Aug 15 10:58:51 2018 Subject: [Athen] music scores in Braille, PDF, hardcopy and what else? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just checking in with the listsev! Any thoughts? Krista On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Rovner, Amy wrote: > Krista, > > > > So happy you asked this question. I was working with our Music faculty > last week and this came up. I am interested in everyone?s responses. > > > > Thank you! > > Amy > > > > > > *Amy Rovner, MPH RD* > Instructional Designer > eLearning Services > > *Shoreline Community College* > www.shoreline.edu | 206.546.6937 > eLearning Office: 206.546.6966 > Pronouns: she, her, hers > > *[image: Shoreline Community College]* > > eLearning Service Help Center > > Faculty Canvas 24/7 Help via Chat > > > Faculty Canvas 24/7 Phone Help: 1-888-672-2040 > > Student Canvas 24/7 Help via Chat > > > Drop in help with basic computing > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Krista Greear > *Sent:* Saturday, August 11, 2018 7:07 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] music scores in Braille, PDF, hardcopy and what else? > > > > An interesting question was posed to me recently. > > > > Aside from music Braille, PDFs, and hardcopies, what formats are people > producing for music scores? Or rather, what formats would you LIKE musical > scores to be in (i.e. ePub?). > > > > Krista > > > > -- > > Krista Greear > > Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- Krista Greear Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at ucla.edu Wed Aug 15 14:11:32 2018 From: burke at ucla.edu (PATRICK BURKE) Date: Wed Aug 15 14:11:57 2018 Subject: [Athen] music scores in Braille, PDF, hardcopy and what else? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Krista, I haven't dealt with this for several years... However, the main thing seems to be to save materials in either the Lime file format or MusicXML. Dancing Dots can use both to generate Braille scores, though I think Lime has a longer track record. Newest Lime supports PDF output. Most recent info at: http://www.cerlsoundgroup.org/cgi-bin/Lime/WhatsNew.html Some info on MusicXML: https://www.musicxml.com/software/ Overall, when in doubt, talk to Bill McCann at Dancing Dots ( www.dancingdots.com ). HTH, Patrick On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Krista Greear < krista@inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com> wrote: > An interesting question was posed to me recently. > > > Aside from music Braille, PDFs, and hardcopies, what formats are people > producing for music scores? Or rather, what formats would you LIKE musical > scores to be in (i.e. ePub?). > > Krista > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpolizzotto at berkeley.edu Wed Aug 15 14:47:47 2018 From: jpolizzotto at berkeley.edu (Joseph Polizzotto) Date: Wed Aug 15 14:48:28 2018 Subject: [Athen] Persian OCR Message-ID: Hi ATHEN list: Can anyone share resources for converting Farsi to accessible text? BTW, we are aware of this project https://github.com/reza1615/PersianOcr and would be particularly interested in your comments and experience using it. Thank you, Joseph Polizzotto -- *Alternate Media Supervisor* Disabled Students' Program University of California, Berkeley https://dsp.berkeley.edu/ (510) 642-0329 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From akosakowski at baypath.edu Thu Aug 16 10:10:29 2018 From: akosakowski at baypath.edu (Adam Kosakowski) Date: Thu Aug 16 10:11:38 2018 Subject: [Athen] Learning Management System symposium invite Message-ID: Hello all, Bay Path is hosting a Learning Management System symposium on October 24th. One of the topics will be the accessibility of LMS, so I wanted to spread the word. Please check in out here: bit.ly/nercomp_LMSSym18 Best, Adam *Adam Kosakowski* Coordinator of Student AccessAbility Services AccessAbility Services (formerly Student Disability Services): Room 107 in Blake Phone: 413-565-1607 Fax: 413-565-1610 Email: akosakowski@baypath.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Thu Aug 16 11:27:23 2018 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype) Date: Thu Aug 16 11:26:43 2018 Subject: [Athen] Persian OCR In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5b75c1dd.1c69fb81.affc0.004f@mx.google.com> Hi Joseph,?? Here's a link for info on ocr in Arabic and Farsi.?https://www.simpleocr.com/Arabic_OCR Abbyy FR and Read Iris can do this.? Wink Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Joseph Polizzotto Date: 8/15/18 2:47 PM (GMT-08:00) To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Persian OCR Hi ATHEN list: Can anyone share resources for converting Farsi to accessible text? BTW, we are aware of this project https://github.com/reza1615/PersianOcr? and would be particularly interested in your comments and experience using it.? Thank you, Joseph Polizzotto -- Alternate Media Supervisor Disabled Students' ProgramUniversity of California, Berkeleyhttps://dsp.berkeley.edu/ (510) 642-0329 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpolizzotto at berkeley.edu Thu Aug 16 13:19:12 2018 From: jpolizzotto at berkeley.edu (Joseph Polizzotto) Date: Thu Aug 16 13:20:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Persian OCR In-Reply-To: <5b75c1dd.1c69fb81.affc0.004f@mx.google.com> References: <5b75c1dd.1c69fb81.affc0.004f@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks Wink! Joseph On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:27 AM foreigntype wrote: > Hi Joseph, > > Here's a link for info on ocr in Arabic and Farsi. > https://www.simpleocr.com/Arabic_OCR > > Abbyy FR and Read Iris can do this. > > Wink > > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Joseph Polizzotto > Date: 8/15/18 2:47 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: [Athen] Persian OCR > > Hi ATHEN list: > > Can anyone share resources for converting Farsi to accessible text? > > BTW, we are aware of this project > > https://github.com/reza1615/PersianOcr > > and would be particularly interested in your comments and experience using > it. > > Thank you, > > Joseph Polizzotto > > -- > *Alternate Media Supervisor* > Disabled Students' Program > University of California, Berkeley > https://dsp.berkeley.edu/ > > (510) 642-0329 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- *Alternate Media Supervisor* Disabled Students' Program University of California, Berkeley https://dsp.berkeley.edu/ (510) 642-0329 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The forum will focus on disability and its intersections with race, ethnicity, gender, and sexuality, in non-U.S. contexts, with the joint aims of U.S.-based activists/organizers/advocates learning from our counterparts outside the U.S., and building stronger connections with leaders and organizations abroad for future collaborations. We are grateful to the generous support of Northeastern University School of Law's Program on Human Rights and the Global Economy (PHRGE), the Women's March , and Brandeis University's Lurie Institute for Disability Policy for making this pre-conference forum possible. You may RSVP on our Facebook page , and buy tickets in advance or at the door. Suggested cost is $25.00 or whatever you can ? no one will be turned away online or in-person for lack of funds. +++ *Speakers* *Sarah Jama* is a Somali-Canadian community organizer from Hamilton, Ontario. She is co-founder of the Disability Justice Network of Ontario (DJNO) and holds a Social Sciences degree from McMaster University. Her lived experiences have fostered interests and a passion for: community engagement, disability justice, and activism. *Khairani Barokka* is an Indonesian writer, poet, and artist in London, whose work has been presented extensively in twelve countries. Okka has received six residencies and multiple grants; among her honours, she was an NYU Tisch Departmental Fellow for her masters, and is a UNFPA Indonesian Young Leader Driving Social Change for arts practice and research. *Kiran Anthony Foster* is a mixed-race immigrant sex worker living in auckland, new zealand. a staunch prison abolitionist, anti-imperialist marxist, and disability/queer rights activist, their continued history of radical advocacy is informed by having been born into a culture of silence as an autistic, psychotic and intersex child *Freyja Haraldsd?ttir* is a feminist disability activist and the founder of Tab?, an intersectional feminist disability movement in Iceland. 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Conchita is founder of METAS, a non-profit organization that trains educators in Latin America that work with blind/low vision students and students with other disabilities. *Ayman Eckford* is a neurodiversity, disability justice and queer activist, intersectional feminist and radical youth liberationist. They are autistic multiple neurodivergent queer Jewish refugee born in Donetsk, in the east of Ukraine, who moved to St. Petersburg, Russia after the outbreak of the civil war. *Lina Ekford* is autistic bisexual woman who live in St. Petersburg, Russia. Together with her wife Ayman, she runs Autistic initiative for civil rights and a number of projects about autism and disability. *Shiri Eisner* is a bisexual, genderqueer, and feminist activist and writer. She is also Mizrahi, vegan, disabled, an anarchist, a geek, a metalhead, and a crazy cat lady. She is the author of the book *Bi: Notes for a Bisexual Revolution*, the founder of the bi community in Israel/Occupied Palestine, and a long time organizer in various local social justice and radical left movements. *Sara M. Acevedo* is an autistic mestiza, educator, and disability justice advocate born and raised in Colombia. Sara holds a Masters of Liberal Arts with a focus on Disability Studies from Temple University in Philadelphia and a PhD in Anthropology and Social Change from the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) in San Francisco. *Toril Heglum* is a feminist disability rights advocate who is Project Manager for Empowerment and Supported Decision-Making at Uloba, Independent Living Norway. She is also a former county elected official, and co-editor of *Med Vitende Og Vilje*, on disability and discrimination. *Mahlet Meshesha *is Advancing Leadership in Public Health Social Work (BU-ALPS) Fellow at Boston University School of Social Work. 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Brown * (they/them/theirs) lydia@autistichoya.com +1 (202) 618-0187 www.autistichoya.net ??No? might make them angry. but it will make you free. ? if no one has ever told you, your freedom is more important than their anger? ? Nayyirah Waheed ?Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing.? ? Arundhati Roy ?Life is short and the world is at least half terrible, and for every kind stranger, there is one who would break you, though I keep this from my children. I am trying to sell them the world. Any decent realtor, walking you through a real shithole, chirps on about good bones: This place could be beautiful, right? You could make this place beautiful.? ? Maggie Smith *Resist. Stay Ungovernable. 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Alternative Text conversion * Portland OR On Sun, Aug 19, 2018, 7:35 PM Kluesner, Bryon wrote: > Hi all, > > > Is there an app of Kurzweil / Firefly for the iPad and iPhone? > > > Thanks, > > > Bryon > > > Bryon Kluesner, RhD > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > Adjunct Professor > College of Health, Education & Professional Studies > University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > 103 Frist Hall > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > 423-425-5251 > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kevin Price MSW, ATP Accessible Technology Coordinator Chair of the Digital Accessibility Committee University of Illinois at Chicago Disability Resource Center (MC 321) 1200 West Harrison Street, 1190 SSB Chicago, IL 60607-7163 (312) 413-0886 FAX (312) 413-7781 pricek@uic.edu On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 9:35 PM Kluesner, Bryon wrote: > Hi all, > > > Is there an app of Kurzweil / Firefly for the iPad and iPhone? > > > Thanks, > > > Bryon > > > Bryon Kluesner, RhD > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > Adjunct Professor > College of Health, Education & Professional Studies > University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > 103 Frist Hall > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > 423-425-5251 > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI, They changed the name to Kurzweil 3000. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/kurzweil-3000/id535277727?mt=8 Mark Mintz Alt Media Specialist Pasadena City College From: athen-list On Behalf Of Kevin Price Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 7:26 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Kurzweil / Firefly iPad friendly? Byron, Just another note, even though there is no Kurzweil/Firefly app for iPhone or Android and only an app for iPad. I like the firefly web client. I had a student who liked the firefly web client better than iPad app on that platform. Kevin Price MSW, ATP Accessible Technology Coordinator Chair of the Digital Accessibility Committee University of Illinois at Chicago Disability Resource Center (MC 321) 1200 West Harrison Street, 1190 SSB Chicago, IL 60607-7163 (312) 413-0886 FAX (312) 413-7781 pricek@uic.edu On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 9:35 PM Kluesner, Bryon > wrote: Hi all, Is there an app of Kurzweil / Firefly for the iPad and iPhone? Thanks, Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For a full job description, learn more about UCR, and to submit an application(s), please visit the UCR Jobs site (http://jobs.ucr.edu/, position #201807021781). Please forward this information to individuals you think may be interested or who know of other who may be interested in this opportunity! Best Regards, Laura Riley, M.S.Ed. Director, Student Disability Resource Center UCRiverside 125 Costo Hall (951) 827-3861 http://sdrc.ucr.edu / Facebook: UCRAbility / Twitter: @UCRAbility "Our mission is to promote an inclusive educational experience for students through the advocacy of equal access, disability and ability awareness, and empowerment." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gian at accessibilityoz.com Tue Aug 21 17:48:40 2018 From: gian at accessibilityoz.com (Gian Wild) Date: Tue Aug 21 17:49:12 2018 Subject: [Athen] Proposal at SXSW on accessibility and higher education Message-ID: Hi ATHENians! I have a proposal for "Making higher education accessible to all" for SXSW 2019. If you would like to see this presentation at SXSW, please vote for it: https://panelpicker.sxsw.com/vote/91343 (voting closes in a week). Admin: please remove if not appropriate Cheers, Gian Gian Wild, CEO AccessibilityOz Company Twitter: @accessibilityoz Email: gian@accessibilityoz.com United States: (415) 621 9366 - Cell: (646) 785 3689 Australia: (03) 8677 0828 - Mobile: 042 442 6262 Twitter: @gian - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gianwild/ Products: OzART: our fully accessible automated testing tool OzPlayer: our fully accessible video player OzWiki: our database of accessibility errors, examples and solutions -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Wed Aug 22 10:20:27 2018 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Wed Aug 22 10:42:39 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible Fillable PDF Forms self-paced online course launches today Message-ID: <000401d43a3c$6c1066d0$44313470$@karlencommunications.com> Hi Everyone: I'm still working on captioning the last few videos but launched this online course today! https://karen-mccall.teachable.com/ There is a 15% discount for all pricing plans until September 21, 2018. With enrollment you get a copy of the book by the same name and I'm going to update content as new tools, features, techniques and information is available so your time "in the course" doesn't expire. Contact me if you have questions. Teachable uses WAI-ARIA and I used their templates so hopefully didn't break anything! This is where you can purchase my books and other online courses I create. 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In general this > has not been a bad experience assistive technology wise; however, I have > just confirmed that we are having an odd problem. We have a user who needs > to use sticky keys to press Ctrl + Alt + Del for logging in. Pressing the > Shift key quickly makes the expected sound for turning on Sticky Keys, but > they do not seem to be on. Other Ease of Access apps, mainly Narrator, > seem to work fine at the initial login screen. Does anyone know if there > was a change in the way Sticky Keys works in the login screen for Windows > 10? I know the Narrator launching key sequence changed. I did confirm > that the 5 shift key quickly still launches Sticky Keys on the lab > computers once the user is logged in. > > > > Thanks, > > David Schwarte > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- Doug Hayman w.edu> Senior Computer Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Melissa Melissa Green Technology Accessibility Training Specialist Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama A204C Gordon Palmer Hall Box 870248 Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 Phone 205-348-8548 mfgreen1@ua.edu | http://accessibility.ua.edu [University of Alabama] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 6054 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From cgreen at sa.utah.edu Thu Aug 23 08:48:07 2018 From: cgreen at sa.utah.edu (Christopher Lamar Green) Date: Thu Aug 23 08:48:13 2018 Subject: [Athen] Braille Texbook? Math for Elementary Teachers Message-ID: <9AE6CE7D0609E94A998BC291499502059659FB8C@X-MB5.xds.umail.utah.edu> Good morning! We are hoping to find the following textbook in Braille. Does anyone have this produced or in production? Mathematics for Elementary Teachers with Activities 5E Sybilla Beckmann 9780134392790 - Pearson 2017 If you have any info please contact me at cgreen@sa.utah.edu Thanks! Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Green Manager, Accessible Media Services Center for Disability and Access | University of Utah Ph.: (801) 587-8316 | CDA Front Desk: (801) 581-5020 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lnorwich at bu.edu Thu Aug 23 08:57:40 2018 From: lnorwich at bu.edu (Norwich, Lorraine S) Date: Thu Aug 23 08:58:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Natural Voices Message-ID: Dear All, I am working with a student who has sleep apnea and finds reading and listening to monotone voices on a computer triggers her sleep. She wants to try text to speech to keep herself awake. She finds some of the voices very monotonous and difficult to follow. Has anyone found any voices that sound less synthesized and sound more natural that would be helpful for this student. thanks Lorraine Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS Assistant Director of Disability Services Boston University 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd Floor Boston, MA 02215 lnorwich@bu.edu (email) 617-353-3658 (vox) 617-353-9646 (fax) www.bu.edu/disability (website) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From judy.bagley at furman.edu Thu Aug 23 09:06:49 2018 From: judy.bagley at furman.edu (Judy Bagley) Date: Thu Aug 23 09:07:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Natural Voices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Voice Dream (app on phone or tablet) has some great voices. Judy Bagley, MAT Director Student Office for Accessibility Resources Furman University Phone: (864) 294-2320 FAX: (864) 294-3044 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information in this communication is intended to be confidential to the individual(s) and/or entity to whom it is addressed. It may contain information of a privileged and/or confidential nature, which is subject to federal and/or state privacy regulations. In the event that you are not the intended recipient or agent of the intended recipient, do not copy or use the information contained within this communication, or allow it to be read, copied or utilized in any manner, by any other person(s). Should this communication be received in error, please notify the sender immediately either by response email or by telephone at 864-294-2320, and permanently delete the original email, attachment(s), and any copies. ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Norwich, Lorraine S Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 11:57:40 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Natural Voices Dear All, I am working with a student who has sleep apnea and finds reading and listening to monotone voices on a computer triggers her sleep. She wants to try text to speech to keep herself awake. She finds some of the voices very monotonous and difficult to follow. Has anyone found any voices that sound less synthesized and sound more natural that would be helpful for this student. thanks Lorraine Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS Assistant Director of Disability Services Boston University 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd Floor Boston, MA 02215 lnorwich@bu.edu (email) 617-353-3658 (vox) 617-353-9646 (fax) www.bu.edu/disability (website) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpolizzotto at berkeley.edu Thu Aug 23 09:35:19 2018 From: jpolizzotto at berkeley.edu (Joseph Polizzotto) Date: Thu Aug 23 09:36:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Natural Voices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Lorraine: In our opinion the Nuance Vocalizer voices are the best in class. If she has an iOS (Apple) mobile device or a macbook, she gets these voices for free. Some of the voices we would recommend from Nuance are the following Ava (US) Allison (US) Tom (US) Zoe (US) Nathan (US) Some students mention liking the British accented voices, and this nuance may make a difference for your student's needs as well. Again, from Nuance: Daniel (UK) Malcom (UK) Serena (UK) Oliver (UK) You can try out all of these voices by going to this website: http://codefactoryglobal.com/speech-technology/ Once you find the voice you want, I too would recommend using VoiceDream. You get one high quality voice for free and you can play back and bookmark audio files from this app. HTH, Joseph On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 9:00 AM Norwich, Lorraine S wrote: > Dear All, > > > > I am working with a student who has sleep apnea and finds reading and > listening to monotone voices on a computer triggers her sleep. She wants > to try text to speech to keep herself awake. She finds some of the voices > very monotonous and difficult to follow. Has anyone found any voices that > sound less synthesized and sound more natural that would be helpful for > this student. > > > > thanks > > > > Lorraine > > > > > > > > Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS > > Assistant Director of Disability Services > > Boston University > > 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd Floor > > Boston, MA 02215 > > lnorwich@bu.edu (email) > > 617-353-3658 (vox) > > 617-353-9646 (fax) > > www.bu.edu/disability (website) > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- *Alternate Media Supervisor* Disabled Students' Program University of California, Berkeley https://dsp.berkeley.edu/ (510) 642-0329 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Has anyone found any voices that sound less synthesized and sound more natural that would be helpful for this student. thanks Lorraine Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS Assistant Director of Disability Services Boston University 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd Floor Boston, MA 02215 lnorwich@bu.edu (email) 617-353-3658 (vox) 617-353-9646 (fax) www.bu.edu/disability (website) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Thu Aug 23 09:37:32 2018 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Thu Aug 23 09:38:21 2018 Subject: [Athen] Natural Voices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lorraine et al ATHEN-ites, When first trying out text to speech voices with students, I will have asked them a number of leading questions about what type of voice they like listening to: male or female, any particular regional American accent, a British (or other country) voice, fast or slow tempo, high, medium or low pitch. I will do some research with the principle TTS software providers and pick out 5 or 6 voices to try out with student directly --I want to watch their face as they listen to the different voice(s). Knitting their eyebrows, narrowing their eyes, or eyebrows up, head cocked a little to the side? The body language will indicate which voices are annoying and which are more pleasant or acceptable. If the student picks one or two to try out for a few days and comes back with another "I can't listen to this," I'll provide them the links for the SAPI voices so they can try them out themselves. I will encourage them to pick from the free ones, of course, but helping them walk through the testing out part will help them, in the long run, find the right voice for their needs. Hope this helps. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 8:58 AM Norwich, Lorraine S wrote: > Dear All, > > > > I am working with a student who has sleep apnea and finds reading and > listening to monotone voices on a computer triggers her sleep. She wants > to try text to speech to keep herself awake. She finds some of the voices > very monotonous and difficult to follow. Has anyone found any voices that > sound less synthesized and sound more natural that would be helpful for > this student. > > > > thanks > > > > Lorraine > > > > > > > > Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS > > Assistant Director of Disability Services > > Boston University > > 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd Floor > > Boston, MA 02215 > > lnorwich@bu.edu (email) > > 617-353-3658 (vox) > > 617-353-9646 (fax) > > www.bu.edu/disability (website) > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kvillanueva at Lee.Edu Thu Aug 23 13:03:07 2018 From: kvillanueva at Lee.Edu (Villanueva, K-leigh) Date: Thu Aug 23 13:04:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Complex tables (splitting and merging cells) Message-ID: <12A38F78D98E5C48A12D354F05345728876B0787@TOPAZE.lee.edu> Hi All, We are training faculty!!! How do we make a table accessible with merged or spli cells? THANKS! 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How to test Check for merged or split cells. If used, convert to an accessible format. To check for merged or split cells in data tables: To look for the presence of merged or split cells, visually inspect the document. If Merged or ... Kamran Rasul, M.Ed Director of Assistive Technology Columbia Basin College, TD 422 2600 N 20th Ave, Pasco, WA 99301 krasul@columbiabasin.edu | 509.543.1448 ext.2048 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Villanueva, K-leigh Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 1:03:07 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Complex tables (splitting and merging cells) Hi All, We are training faculty!!! How do we make a table accessible with merged or spli cells? THANKS! K-LEIGH Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bourne Director of IT Accessibility 1 Ashburton Place, 8th Floor, Boston, MA 02108 Office: (617) 626-4502 sarah.bourne@mass.gov | www.mass.gov/eotss Executive Office of Technology Services and Security (EOTSS) EOTSS provides secure and quality digital information, services, and tools to constituents and service providers when and where they need them. ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Villanueva, K-leigh Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 4:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Complex tables (splitting and merging cells) Hi All, We are training faculty!!! How do we make a table accessible with merged or spli cells? THANKS! K-LEIGH Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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More complex tables with multi-line headers need IDs, and those tools are being developed. --Bevi - - - Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO | Bevi@PubCom.com - - - PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting . training . development . design . sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes - - - Latest blog-newsletter - Accessibility Tips at www.PubCom.com/blog From: athen-list On Behalf Of Bourne, Sarah (MASSIT) Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 4:33 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] Complex tables (splitting and merging cells) K-leigh, You can't make split/merged cells accessible in Word. There are options in HTML and maybe PDF (I'm not sure about that), but both take advanced skills - and a lot more time. sb Sarah E. Bourne Director of IT Accessibility 1 Ashburton Place, 8th Floor, Boston, MA 02108 Office: (617) 626-4502 sarah.bourne@mass.gov | www.mass.gov/eotss Executive Office of Technology Services and Security (EOTSS) EOTSS provides secure and quality digital information, services, and tools to constituents and service providers when and where they need them. _____ From: athen-list > on behalf of Villanueva, K-leigh > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 4:03 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Complex tables (splitting and merging cells) Hi All, We are training faculty!!! How do we make a table accessible with merged or spli cells? THANKS! K-LEIGH Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They work with both Natural Reader (works with all paid versions) (for windows and Mac) and Voice Dream Reader / Writer (IOS and Android) Acapela Group Shaun Hegney Program Specialist 2 Disability Support Services Spokane Falls Community College (509)-533-3544 Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Norwich, Lorraine S Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 8:58 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Natural Voices Dear All, I am working with a student who has sleep apnea and finds reading and listening to monotone voices on a computer triggers her sleep. She wants to try text to speech to keep herself awake. She finds some of the voices very monotonous and difficult to follow. Has anyone found any voices that sound less synthesized and sound more natural that would be helpful for this student. thanks Lorraine Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS Assistant Director of Disability Services Boston University 19 Deerfield Street, 2nd Floor Boston, MA 02215 lnorwich@bu.edu (email) 617-353-3658 (vox) 617-353-9646 (fax) www.bu.edu/disability (website) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 15239 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Fri Aug 24 09:53:24 2018 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Fri Aug 24 09:53:52 2018 Subject: [Athen] Reminder - Ron Stewart Professional Development Award Message-ID: Hi All, Remember: Application deadline is 9/1/18 for the Ron Stewart Professional Development Award. If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask! ***** Hello all, At the 2017 Accessing Higher Ground Conference, the ATHEN membership approved the Ron Stewart Professional Development Award in honor of one of the founding members of ATHEN. In 2002, Ron Stewart helped to start the Access Technology Higher Education Network (ATHEN) while continuing to work in the field of access technology. The Ron Stewart Professional Development Award supports Ron's mission to nurture access technology professionals in higher education. To accomplish this, the Award will support a first-time attendee in attending the Accessing Higher Ground conference. The Award includes: - Standard Main Conference Registration Package for 2018 Accessing Higher Ground Conference. Includes all workshops, Wednesday to Friday (keynote dinner not included). - Hotel accommodations for the conference (up to 3 nights) at the official conference hotel, Westin Westminster. - Professional Membership in ATHEN for 1 year. The Award is open to those who: - Have never attended the Accessing Higher Ground conference. - Are currently employed at a post-secondary institution in the field of access technology. For full details about the Award and the application process, please visit: https://athenpro.org/content/ron-stewart-professional-development-award The application deadline is September 1, 2018. We look forward to supporting new professionals in access technology! Thank you, ATHEN Executive Council Please note: Recipient with be responsible for all travel costs and meals. No monetary award or reimbursement is provided. ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. |Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@email.arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joeferia at berkeley.edu Fri Aug 24 10:43:51 2018 From: joeferia at berkeley.edu (Joseph Feria-Galicia) Date: Fri Aug 24 10:44:37 2018 Subject: [Athen] Complex tables (splitting and merging cells) In-Reply-To: <12A38F78D98E5C48A12D354F05345728876B0787@TOPAZE.lee.edu> References: <12A38F78D98E5C48A12D354F05345728876B0787@TOPAZE.lee.edu> Message-ID: Our Table Accessibility course has some pointers on working with tables you might find helpful. Best of luck, Joe Feria-Galicia *Accessibility Team Lead* Digital Learning Services University of California, Berkeley Phone: (510) 516-3801 On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Villanueva, K-leigh wrote: > > Hi All, > > We are training faculty!!! How do we make a table accessible with merged > or spli cells? THANKS! K-LEIGH > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tristenbreitenfeldt at gmail.com Fri Aug 24 13:37:01 2018 From: tristenbreitenfeldt at gmail.com (Tristen Breitenfeldt (Wipro Ltd.)) Date: Fri Aug 24 13:37:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] Sticky Keys in Windows 10 Message-ID: <004601d43bea$3617ea30$a247be90$@gmail.com> Hello everybody, I have verified this bug in Windows 10 and filed a bug with the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk. For future reference, you can report accessibility issues with Microsoft products to the Disability Answer Desk: 800-936-5900. Have an awesome day! Tristen Breitenfeldt ------------------------------ Replying to athen-list Digest, Vol 151, Issue 18 Message: 4 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:36:49 +0000 From: "Schwarte, David M." > To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu )" > Subject: [Athen] Sticky Keys in Windows 10 Message-ID: <8ee77e62776740c1b6b7136fa23d6bfb@wppexc06.purdue.lcl > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Everyone, Our campus labs have moved to Windows 10 over the summer. In general this has not been a bad experience assistive technology wise; however, I have just confirmed that we are having an odd problem. We have a user who needs to use sticky keys to press Ctrl + Alt + Del for logging in. Pressing the Shift key quickly makes the expected sound for turning on Sticky Keys, but they do not seem to be on. Other Ease of Access apps, mainly Narrator, seem to work fine at the initial login screen. Does anyone know if there was a change in the way Sticky Keys works in the login screen for Windows 10? I know the Narrator launching key sequence changed. I did confirm that the 5 shift key quickly still launches Sticky Keys on the lab computers once the user is logged in. Thanks, David Schwarte -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 11:44:25 -0700 From: Doug Hayman > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Sticky Keys in Windows 10 Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" David, Tried just now to do the quick tapping of shift key and got a dialogue box pop up to enable/not the function. But it didn't turn sticky keys on. When I unchecked the option to have that dialogue pop up (see attached image) then the rapid-repeated shift key toggled them on/off as expected. On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Schwarte, David M. > wrote: Hello Everyone, Our campus labs have moved to Windows 10 over the summer. In general this has not been a bad experience assistive technology wise; however, I have just confirmed that we are having an odd problem. We have a user who needs to use sticky keys to press Ctrl + Alt + Del for logging in. Pressing the Shift key quickly makes the expected sound for turning on Sticky Keys, but they do not seem to be on. Other Ease of Access apps, mainly Narrator, seem to work fine at the initial login screen. Does anyone know if there was a change in the way Sticky Keys works in the login screen for Windows 10? I know the Narrator launching key sequence changed. I did confirm that the 5 shift key quickly still launches Sticky Keys on the lab computers once the user is logged in. Thanks, David Schwarte -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 7792 bytes Desc: image003.png URL: From Shaun.Hegney at sfcc.spokane.edu Fri Aug 24 14:05:05 2018 From: Shaun.Hegney at sfcc.spokane.edu (Hegney, Shaun) Date: Fri Aug 24 14:05:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hmm I've had similar issues in the past I've had some luck with reinstalling echo desktop. I've also had to back up a pen and then reset / update the firmware. Shaun Hegney Program Specialist 2 Disability Support Services Spokane Falls Community College (509)-533-3544 Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hi all, I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. Any suggestions or advise? As always, thanks! Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7792 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu Fri Aug 24 14:15:49 2018 From: Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu (Kluesner, Bryon) Date: Fri Aug 24 14:15:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Shaun. That was my thinking also. I am having the student uninstall Echo desktop and reinstall it over the weekend. I'' try your next suggestion if the 1st doesn't work. Have a good weekend. Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Hegney, Shaun Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 5:05 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hmm I've had similar issues in the past I've had some luck with reinstalling echo desktop. I've also had to back up a pen and then reset / update the firmware. Shaun Hegney Program Specialist 2 Disability Support Services Spokane Falls Community College (509)-533-3544 Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hi all, I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. Any suggestions or advise? As always, thanks! 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The virtual notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical notebook and find that sufficient. Regards, Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ [sig logo small] From: athen-list On Behalf Of Hegney, Shaun Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hmm I've had similar issues in the past I've had some luck with reinstalling echo desktop. I've also had to back up a pen and then reset / update the firmware. Shaun Hegney Program Specialist 2 Disability Support Services Spokane Falls Community College (509)-533-3544 Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hi all, I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. Any suggestions or advise? As always, thanks! Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 15239 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 7792 bytes Desc: image003.png URL: From cmhackett at stcc.edu Fri Aug 24 15:40:49 2018 From: cmhackett at stcc.edu (Connie Hackett) Date: Fri Aug 24 15:41:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D9B3443-EFB3-46E5-AF11-9258D152BB4C@stcc.edu> We were having all kinds of issues with the echo pens so we switch to the Livescribe 3 pens which are great. These pens work with an app on smartphones. Our students love them and we are in the process of purchasing more of these pens to loan out to our students. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Leyna Bencomo wrote: > > I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase the pens every semester and we move on. > > If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical notebook and find that sufficient. > > Regards, > > Leyna Bencomo > Assistive Technology Specialist > Office of Information Technology > University of Colorado Colorado Springs > 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 > Colorado Springs, CO 80918 > (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu > http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ > > > From: athen-list On Behalf Of Hegney, Shaun > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM > To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / update the firmware. > > Shaun Hegney > Program Specialist 2 > Disability Support Services > Spokane Falls Community College > (509)-533-3544 > Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu > > > From: athen-list On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM > To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > Hi all, > > I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. > > Any suggestions or advise? > > As always, thanks! > > Bryon > > Bryon Kluesner, RhD > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > Adjunct Professor > College of Health, Education & Professional Studies > > The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > 103 Frist Hall > 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc > > A member of the Division of Student Development > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- *SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE**IMPORTANT: ?The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. 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Students can authorize a borrowed pen on their personal Echo software using this username and password. That way, students are able to download and keep all virtual notebooks and audio files without registering the pen to their own email. (It's not a pleasant process to contact the company every time you need a pen unlinked.) Every time a pen is checked in to our office, all files are erased from the pen. We can easily authorise and reset because the pen is registered to us. If students have trouble authorizing a pen in the future, it's likely because their Echo account is linked to a different pen. They just need to hold down the ctrl key and select the Help menu. There's a hidden menu option under "Customer Service Tools" to "Unlink Desktop from User." *Michele Joy Bromley* Adaptive Technology Specialist Alternative Formats Coordinator Disability Resource Center Diversity & Multicultural Student Services Portland State University Office: SMSU 116K Phone: (503) 725-8395 Fax: (503) 725-4103 Email: michele.bromley@pdx.edu Website: www.pdx.edu/drc *?The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.? ~ Tim Berners-Lee* On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Leyna Bencomo wrote: > I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. > Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend > out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They > use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to > the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, > I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase > the pens every semester and we move on. > > > > If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but > for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that > benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual > notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical > notebook and find that sufficient. > > > > Regards, > > > > Leyna Bencomo > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Office of Information Technology > > *University of Colorado Colorado Springs* > > 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 > > Colorado Springs, CO 80918 > > (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu > > http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ > > [image: sig logo small] > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Hegney, Shaun > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM > *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > > Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with > reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / > update the firmware. > > > > *Shaun Hegney* > > *Program Specialist 2* > > Disability Support Services > > Spokane Falls Community College > > (509)-533-3544 > > Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM > *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > *Subject:* [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her > pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She > just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her > problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, > but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. > > > > Any suggestions or advise? > > > > As always, thanks! > > > > Bryon > > > > *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* > > *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* > > *Disability Resource Center* > > *Adjunct Professor* > > *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* > > [image: Power C] > > *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* > 103 Frist Hall > 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 > > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > > > (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc > > > > *A member of the **Division of Student Development* > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As noted in the instructions, the instructor must also include the link to the NaturalReader Online Reader in the first quiz question (https://www.naturalreaders.com/online/). Instructors who need help following these instructions may contact our Faculty resource Center, which provides faculty development and support for campus-wide instructional technologies, including Blackboard and Respondus tools. Melissa From: athen-list On Behalf Of Green, Melissa Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 10:41 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Natural Reader and LockDown Browser Hi all, I've received a request via our IT Service Desk from a student who is seeking guidance on using Natural Reader with Respondus LockDown Browser. Our office plans to do some testing, but does anyone have any advice/recommendations/cautionary tales regarding the use of NaturalReader Online or NaturalReader Software with LockDown Browser? Respondus provides this information for assistive technology users: Is LockDown Browser accessible to those with disabilities? Melissa Melissa Green Technology Accessibility Training Specialist Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama A204C Gordon Palmer Hall Box 870248 Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 Phone 205-348-8548 mfgreen1@ua.edu | http://accessibility.ua.edu [University of Alabama] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 6054 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From vplace at columbiabasin.edu Mon Aug 27 06:59:16 2018 From: vplace at columbiabasin.edu (Place, Vicki) Date: Mon Aug 27 06:59:47 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We also do similar. We loan the book and pen and at the end of the quarter, if they want their notes, we extract them to a PDF and send them to the student through Canvas. We never let them use Echo desktop. There can be too may issues and we do not want to have to troubleshoot for them. It is a simple and effective process. ============================= Vicki Place Columbia Basin College Assistive Technology Center Program Support Supervisor II Phone: (509) 542-4428 On-Campus Ext.: 2428 Location: T422 Mail Stop: MS-T6 Hours: 7:00 am - 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs 7:00 am- Noon; Friday California State University, Northridge Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. -Hannah Gadsby From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Leyna Bencomo Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:13 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. Too many issues. It's been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don't use the upload to the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase the pens every semester and we move on. If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical notebook and find that sufficient. Regards, Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ [sig logo small] From: athen-list On Behalf Of Hegney, Shaun Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hmm I've had similar issues in the past I've had some luck with reinstalling echo desktop. I've also had to back up a pen and then reset / update the firmware. Shaun Hegney Program Specialist 2 Disability Support Services Spokane Falls Community College (509)-533-3544 Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hi all, I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. Any suggestions or advise? As always, thanks! Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 15239 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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David Schwarte From: athen-list On Behalf Of Doug Hayman Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 2:44 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Sticky Keys in Windows 10 David, Tried just now to do the quick tapping of shift key and got a dialogue box pop up to enable/not the function. But it didn't turn sticky keys on. When I unchecked the option to have that dialogue pop up (see attached image) then the rapid-repeated shift key toggled them on/off as expected. On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Schwarte, David M. > wrote: Hello Everyone, Our campus labs have moved to Windows 10 over the summer. In general this has not been a bad experience assistive technology wise; however, I have just confirmed that we are having an odd problem. We have a user who needs to use sticky keys to press Ctrl + Alt + Del for logging in. Pressing the Shift key quickly makes the expected sound for turning on Sticky Keys, but they do not seem to be on. Other Ease of Access apps, mainly Narrator, seem to work fine at the initial login screen. Does anyone know if there was a change in the way Sticky Keys works in the login screen for Windows 10? I know the Narrator launching key sequence changed. I did confirm that the 5 shift key quickly still launches Sticky Keys on the lab computers once the user is logged in. Thanks, David Schwarte _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Doug Hayman w.edu> Senior Computer Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From schwarte at purdue.edu Mon Aug 27 07:03:45 2018 From: schwarte at purdue.edu (Schwarte, David M.) Date: Mon Aug 27 07:04:01 2018 Subject: [Athen] Sticky Keys in Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <004601d43bea$3617ea30$a247be90$@gmail.com> References: <004601d43bea$3617ea30$a247be90$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9a2dae6f28824f8f84bd7260db9c7681@wppexc06.purdue.lcl> Hello Tristen, Thanks for verifying this issue and filing it with Microsoft. I really appreciate it. I did not realize that I could file an issue with Microsoft, so this will be very helpful information for the future. David Schwarte From: athen-list On Behalf Of Tristen Breitenfeldt (Wipro Ltd.) Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 4:37 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] Sticky Keys in Windows 10 Hello everybody, I have verified this bug in Windows 10 and filed a bug with the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk. For future reference, you can report accessibility issues with Microsoft products to the Disability Answer Desk: 800-936-5900. Have an awesome day! Tristen Breitenfeldt ------------------------------ Replying to athen-list Digest, Vol 151, Issue 18 Message: 4 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:36:49 +0000 From: "Schwarte, David M." > To: "Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu)" > Subject: [Athen] Sticky Keys in Windows 10 Message-ID: <8ee77e62776740c1b6b7136fa23d6bfb@wppexc06.purdue.lcl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Everyone, Our campus labs have moved to Windows 10 over the summer. In general this has not been a bad experience assistive technology wise; however, I have just confirmed that we are having an odd problem. We have a user who needs to use sticky keys to press Ctrl + Alt + Del for logging in. Pressing the Shift key quickly makes the expected sound for turning on Sticky Keys, but they do not seem to be on. Other Ease of Access apps, mainly Narrator, seem to work fine at the initial login screen. Does anyone know if there was a change in the way Sticky Keys works in the login screen for Windows 10? I know the Narrator launching key sequence changed. I did confirm that the 5 shift key quickly still launches Sticky Keys on the lab computers once the user is logged in. Thanks, David Schwarte -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 11:44:25 -0700 From: Doug Hayman > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Sticky Keys in Windows 10 Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" David, Tried just now to do the quick tapping of shift key and got a dialogue box pop up to enable/not the function. But it didn't turn sticky keys on. When I unchecked the option to have that dialogue pop up (see attached image) then the rapid-repeated shift key toggled them on/off as expected. On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Schwarte, David M. > wrote: Hello Everyone, Our campus labs have moved to Windows 10 over the summer. In general this has not been a bad experience assistive technology wise; however, I have just confirmed that we are having an odd problem. We have a user who needs to use sticky keys to press Ctrl + Alt + Del for logging in. Pressing the Shift key quickly makes the expected sound for turning on Sticky Keys, but they do not seem to be on. Other Ease of Access apps, mainly Narrator, seem to work fine at the initial login screen. Does anyone know if there was a change in the way Sticky Keys works in the login screen for Windows 10? I know the Narrator launching key sequence changed. I did confirm that the 5 shift key quickly still launches Sticky Keys on the lab computers once the user is logged in. Thanks, David Schwarte -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Mon Aug 27 09:37:58 2018 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Mon Aug 27 09:38:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: <8D9B3443-EFB3-46E5-AF11-9258D152BB4C@stcc.edu> References: <8D9B3443-EFB3-46E5-AF11-9258D152BB4C@stcc.edu> Message-ID: We currently have the Echo pens and haven't experienced many issues with them, but yes the desktop software has been a real pain in the neck. What are the differences between the Livescribe 3 pen and Echo pen? Is there a significant cost difference? On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 6:44 PM Connie Hackett wrote: > We were having all kinds of issues with the echo pens so we switch to the > Livescribe 3 pens which are great. These pens work with an app on > smartphones. Our students love them and we are in the process of purchasing > more of these pens to loan out to our students. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 24, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Leyna Bencomo wrote: > > I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. > Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend > out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They > use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to > the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, > I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase > the pens every semester and we move on. > > > > If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but > for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that > benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual > notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical > notebook and find that sufficient. > > > > Regards, > > > > Leyna Bencomo > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Office of Information Technology > > *University of Colorado Colorado Springs* > > 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 > > Colorado Springs, CO 80918 > > (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu > > http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Hegney, Shaun > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM > *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > > Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with > reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / > update the firmware. > > > > *Shaun Hegney* > > *Program Specialist 2* > > Disability Support Services > > Spokane Falls Community College > > (509)-533-3544 > > Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM > *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > *Subject:* [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her > pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She > just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her > problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, > but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. > > > > Any suggestions or advise? > > > > As always, thanks! > > > > Bryon > > > > *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* > > *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* > > *Disability Resource Center* > > *Adjunct Professor* > > *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* > > > > *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* > 103 Frist Hall > 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 > > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > > > (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc > > > > *A member of the **Division of Student Development* > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > *SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE* > *IMPORTANT: The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely > for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or legally privileged material. 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URL: From cmhackett at stcc.edu Mon Aug 27 10:10:39 2018 From: cmhackett at stcc.edu (Hackett, Connie) Date: Mon Aug 27 10:10:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: <8D9B3443-EFB3-46E5-AF11-9258D152BB4C@stcc.edu> Message-ID: *The Livescribe3 pen uses a ballpoint pen which is much better than the echo. It uses Bluetooth Smart to send everything you write to the smartphone or tablet. The smartphone or tablet is used to record the audio portion of the lecture. The notes both written and audio are saved on the smartphone or tablet.* On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Robert Spangler wrote: > We currently have the Echo pens and haven't experienced many issues with > them, but yes the desktop software has been a real pain in the neck. What > are the differences between the Livescribe 3 pen and Echo pen? Is there a > significant cost difference? > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 6:44 PM Connie Hackett wrote: > >> We were having all kinds of issues with the echo pens so we switch to the >> Livescribe 3 pens which are great. These pens work with an app on >> smartphones. Our students love them and we are in the process of purchasing >> more of these pens to loan out to our students. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 24, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Leyna Bencomo wrote: >> >> I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. >> Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend >> out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They >> use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to >> the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, >> I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase >> the pens every semester and we move on. >> >> >> >> If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but >> for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that >> benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual >> notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical >> notebook and find that sufficient. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Leyna Bencomo >> >> Assistive Technology Specialist >> >> Office of Information Technology >> >> *University of Colorado Colorado Springs* >> >> 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 >> >> Colorado Springs, CO 80918 >> >> (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu >> >> http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list *On >> Behalf Of *Hegney, Shaun >> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM >> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >> >> >> >> Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with >> reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / >> update the firmware. >> >> >> >> *Shaun Hegney* >> >> *Program Specialist 2* >> >> Disability Support Services >> >> Spokane Falls Community College >> >> (509)-533-3544 >> >> Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list *On >> Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon >> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM >> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >> *Subject:* [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update >> her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. >> She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her >> problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, >> but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. >> >> >> >> Any suggestions or advise? >> >> >> >> As always, thanks! >> >> >> >> Bryon >> >> >> >> *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* >> >> *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* >> >> *Disability Resource Center* >> >> *Adjunct Professor* >> >> *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* >> >> >> >> *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* >> 103 Frist Hall >> 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 >> >> Chattanooga, TN 37403 >> >> >> >> (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc >> >> >> >> *A member of the **Division of Student Development* >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> >> *SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE* >> *IMPORTANT: The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely >> for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >> confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any use, disclosure, or >> taking of any action in reliance upon this information by any person and/or >> entity other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. >> If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by >> return e-mail and delete it from your computer immediately.* >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- Connie Hackett Assistive Technology Technician Springfield Technical Community College 413.755.4082 cmhackett@stcc.edu -- *SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE**IMPORTANT: ?The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any use, disclosure, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by any person and/or entity other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete it from your computer immediately.* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cmhackett at stcc.edu Mon Aug 27 10:14:05 2018 From: cmhackett at stcc.edu (Hackett, Connie) Date: Mon Aug 27 10:14:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: <8D9B3443-EFB3-46E5-AF11-9258D152BB4C@stcc.edu> Message-ID: On Amazon the Echo pen 2GB is $163.00 and the Livescribe 3 pen is $134.00. On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Robert Spangler wrote: > We currently have the Echo pens and haven't experienced many issues with > them, but yes the desktop software has been a real pain in the neck. What > are the differences between the Livescribe 3 pen and Echo pen? Is there a > significant cost difference? > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 6:44 PM Connie Hackett wrote: > >> We were having all kinds of issues with the echo pens so we switch to the >> Livescribe 3 pens which are great. These pens work with an app on >> smartphones. Our students love them and we are in the process of purchasing >> more of these pens to loan out to our students. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 24, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Leyna Bencomo wrote: >> >> I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. >> Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend >> out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They >> use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to >> the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, >> I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase >> the pens every semester and we move on. >> >> >> >> If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but >> for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that >> benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual >> notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical >> notebook and find that sufficient. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Leyna Bencomo >> >> Assistive Technology Specialist >> >> Office of Information Technology >> >> *University of Colorado Colorado Springs* >> >> 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 >> >> Colorado Springs, CO 80918 >> >> (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu >> >> http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list *On >> Behalf Of *Hegney, Shaun >> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM >> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >> >> >> >> Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with >> reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / >> update the firmware. >> >> >> >> *Shaun Hegney* >> >> *Program Specialist 2* >> >> Disability Support Services >> >> Spokane Falls Community College >> >> (509)-533-3544 >> >> Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list *On >> Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon >> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM >> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >> *Subject:* [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update >> her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. >> She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her >> problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, >> but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. >> >> >> >> Any suggestions or advise? >> >> >> >> As always, thanks! >> >> >> >> Bryon >> >> >> >> *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* >> >> *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* >> >> *Disability Resource Center* >> >> *Adjunct Professor* >> >> *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* >> >> >> >> *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* >> 103 Frist Hall >> 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 >> >> Chattanooga, TN 37403 >> >> >> >> (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc >> >> >> >> *A member of the **Division of Student Development* >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> >> *SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE* >> *IMPORTANT: The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely >> for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >> confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any use, disclosure, or >> taking of any action in reliance upon this information by any person and/or >> entity other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. >> If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by >> return e-mail and delete it from your computer immediately.* >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- Connie Hackett Assistive Technology Technician Springfield Technical Community College 413.755.4082 cmhackett@stcc.edu -- *SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE**IMPORTANT: ?The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any use, disclosure, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by any person and/or entity other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete it from your computer immediately.* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crobinson at ggc.edu Mon Aug 27 10:21:25 2018 From: crobinson at ggc.edu (Christine Robinson) Date: Mon Aug 27 10:21:33 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: <8D9B3443-EFB3-46E5-AF11-9258D152BB4C@stcc.edu> Message-ID: Doing a quick check on Amazon, the Echo and Livescribe 3s seem to have comparable prices - $155 for the Echo and $135 for the 3. Major difference between the two is that the Livescribe 3 doesn?t contain a microphone or speaker. It connects to your smartphone via Bluetooth, and uses your phone?s microphone. You have to have your phone turned on with the app open before it will record audio. I?ve been using a Livescribe 3 for 2 ? years, and prefer it to the mic-in Pulse Livescribe pen I had for a couple of years before (the Pulse was the version before the Echo). Since the 3 doesn?t have a mic or speaker, it?s a little smaller and lighter ? and because it uses the mic on my phone, the sound quality is better than I got with the Pulse. It?s a bit of a hassle to make sure the app is open and that my phone hasn?t turned itself off when I?m ready to record, but I still prefer it to my previous model. On the other hand, if I were loaning smartpens to students, I might go with the Echo instead, to keep things simpler for them. My two cents, Chris Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence | 678-407-5193 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 12:38 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues We currently have the Echo pens and haven't experienced many issues with them, but yes the desktop software has been a real pain in the neck. What are the differences between the Livescribe 3 pen and Echo pen? Is there a significant cost difference? On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 6:44 PM Connie Hackett > wrote: We were having all kinds of issues with the echo pens so we switch to the Livescribe 3 pens which are great. These pens work with an app on smartphones. Our students love them and we are in the process of purchasing more of these pens to loan out to our students. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Leyna Bencomo > wrote: I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase the pens every semester and we move on. If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical notebook and find that sufficient. Regards, Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Hegney, Shaun Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / update the firmware. Shaun Hegney Program Specialist 2 Disability Support Services Spokane Falls Community College (509)-533-3544 Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hi all, I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. Any suggestions or advise? As always, thanks! Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE IMPORTANT: The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any use, disclosure, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by any person and/or entity other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. 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URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 10:39:53 2018 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Mon Aug 27 10:40:38 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: <8D9B3443-EFB3-46E5-AF11-9258D152BB4C@stcc.edu> Message-ID: Robert et al, One of the challenges of the two different LS3 Pens is that students have experienced problems using the bluetooth link in classrooms (electronic interference which is not under the student's control) and that the recording onto a cellphone eats up the battery and phone storage capacity quickly. The advantage is that the cell phone can pick up a wider sound array than the onboard recording device of the Echo pen itself. The onboard audio recorder in the Echo pen works efficiently with the linking of writing and audio files. Much easier (IMHO) than the process used by the LS3 pens. My thoughts, for what they're worth. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 9:38 AM Robert Spangler wrote: > We currently have the Echo pens and haven't experienced many issues with > them, but yes the desktop software has been a real pain in the neck. What > are the differences between the Livescribe 3 pen and Echo pen? Is there a > significant cost difference? > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 6:44 PM Connie Hackett wrote: > >> We were having all kinds of issues with the echo pens so we switch to the >> Livescribe 3 pens which are great. These pens work with an app on >> smartphones. Our students love them and we are in the process of purchasing >> more of these pens to loan out to our students. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 24, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Leyna Bencomo wrote: >> >> I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. >> Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend >> out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They >> use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to >> the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, >> I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase >> the pens every semester and we move on. >> >> >> >> If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but >> for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that >> benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual >> notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical >> notebook and find that sufficient. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Leyna Bencomo >> >> Assistive Technology Specialist >> >> Office of Information Technology >> >> *University of Colorado Colorado Springs* >> >> 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 >> >> Colorado Springs, CO 80918 >> >> (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu >> >> http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list *On >> Behalf Of *Hegney, Shaun >> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM >> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >> >> >> >> Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with >> reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / >> update the firmware. >> >> >> >> *Shaun Hegney* >> >> *Program Specialist 2* >> >> Disability Support Services >> >> Spokane Falls Community College >> >> (509)-533-3544 >> >> Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list *On >> Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon >> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM >> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >> *Subject:* [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update >> her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. >> She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her >> problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, >> but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. >> >> >> >> Any suggestions or advise? >> >> >> >> As always, thanks! >> >> >> >> Bryon >> >> >> >> *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* >> >> *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* >> >> *Disability Resource Center* >> >> *Adjunct Professor* >> >> *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* >> >> >> >> *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* >> 103 Frist Hall >> 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 >> >> Chattanooga, TN 37403 >> >> >> >> (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc >> >> >> >> *A member of the **Division of Student Development* >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> >> *SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE* >> *IMPORTANT: The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely >> for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >> confidential and/or legally privileged material. 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Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Mon Aug 27 10:51:28 2018 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Mon Aug 27 10:52:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How do you extract notes from the pen to PDF? On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:08 AM Place, Vicki wrote: > We also do similar. We loan the book and pen and at the end of the > quarter, if they want their notes, we extract them to a PDF and send them > to the student through Canvas. We never let them use Echo desktop. There > can be too may issues and we do not want to have to troubleshoot for them. > It is a simple and effective process. > > > > ============================= > > *Vicki Place* > > > > *Columbia Basin College* > > *Assistive Technology Center* > > *Program Support Supervisor II* > > > > Phone: (509) 542-4428 > > On-Campus Ext.: 2428 > > Location: T422 > Mail Stop: MS-T6 > > > > Hours: > > 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs > > 7:00 am- Noon; Friday > > > > *California State University, Northridge * > > Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. > > -Hannah Gadsby > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Leyna Bencomo > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:13 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > > I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. > Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend > out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They > use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to > the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, > I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase > the pens every semester and we move on. > > > > If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but > for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that > benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual > notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical > notebook and find that sufficient. > > > > Regards, > > > > Leyna Bencomo > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Office of Information Technology > > *University of Colorado Colorado Springs* > > 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 > > Colorado Springs, CO 80918 > > (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu > > http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ > > [image: sig logo small] > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Hegney, Shaun > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM > *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > > Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with > reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / > update the firmware. > > > > *Shaun Hegney* > > *Program Specialist 2* > > Disability Support Services > > Spokane Falls Community College > > (509)-533-3544 > > Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM > *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > *Subject:* [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her > pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She > just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her > problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, > but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. > > > > Any suggestions or advise? > > > > As always, thanks! > > > > Bryon > > > > *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* > > *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* > > *Disability Resource Center* > > *Adjunct Professor* > > *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* > > [image: Power C] > > *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* > 103 Frist Hall > 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 > > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > > > (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc > > > > *A member of the **Division of Student Development* > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. 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On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:52 AM Robert Spangler wrote: > How do you extract notes from the pen to PDF? > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:08 AM Place, Vicki > wrote: > >> We also do similar. We loan the book and pen and at the end of the >> quarter, if they want their notes, we extract them to a PDF and send them >> to the student through Canvas. We never let them use Echo desktop. There >> can be too may issues and we do not want to have to troubleshoot for them. >> It is a simple and effective process. >> >> >> >> ============================= >> >> *Vicki Place* >> >> >> >> *Columbia Basin College* >> >> *Assistive Technology Center* >> >> *Program Support Supervisor II* >> >> >> >> Phone: (509) 542-4428 >> >> On-Campus Ext.: 2428 >> >> Location: T422 >> Mail Stop: MS-T6 >> >> >> >> Hours: >> >> 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs >> >> 7:00 am- Noon; Friday >> >> >> >> *California State University, Northridge * >> >> Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. >> >> -Hannah Gadsby >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] >> *On Behalf Of *Leyna Bencomo >> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:13 PM >> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network >> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >> >> >> >> I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. >> Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend >> out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They >> use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to >> the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, >> I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase >> the pens every semester and we move on. >> >> >> >> If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but >> for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that >> benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual >> notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical >> notebook and find that sufficient. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Leyna Bencomo >> >> Assistive Technology Specialist >> >> Office of Information Technology >> >> *University of Colorado Colorado Springs* >> >> 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 >> >> Colorado Springs, CO 80918 >> >> (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu >> >> http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ >> >> [image: sig logo small] >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list *On >> Behalf Of *Hegney, Shaun >> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM >> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >> >> >> >> Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with >> reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / >> update the firmware. >> >> >> >> *Shaun Hegney* >> >> *Program Specialist 2* >> >> Disability Support Services >> >> Spokane Falls Community College >> >> (509)-533-3544 >> >> Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list *On >> Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon >> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM >> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >> *Subject:* [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update >> her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. >> She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her >> problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, >> but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. >> >> >> >> Any suggestions or advise? >> >> >> >> As always, thanks! >> >> >> >> Bryon >> >> >> >> *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* >> >> *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* >> >> *Disability Resource Center* >> >> *Adjunct Professor* >> >> *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* >> >> [image: Power C] >> >> *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* >> 103 Frist Hall >> 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 >> >> Chattanooga, TN 37403 >> >> >> >> (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc >> >> >> >> *A member of the **Division of Student Development* >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. 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This means that they can access all of this data even after returning the pen to our office? Thanks for sharing this! This could make things a lot easier for us. I have a lot of Echo pens, though, so I'll have to use all of those until they die off first. Thanks, Robert On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:21 PM Hackett, Connie wrote: > *The Livescribe3 pen uses a ballpoint pen which is much better than the > echo. It uses Bluetooth Smart to send everything you write to the > smartphone or tablet. The smartphone or tablet is used to record the audio > portion of the lecture. The notes both written and audio are saved on the > smartphone or tablet.* > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Robert Spangler > wrote: > >> We currently have the Echo pens and haven't experienced many issues with >> them, but yes the desktop software has been a real pain in the neck. What >> are the differences between the Livescribe 3 pen and Echo pen? Is there a >> significant cost difference? >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 6:44 PM Connie Hackett >> wrote: >> >>> We were having all kinds of issues with the echo pens so we switch to >>> the Livescribe 3 pens which are great. These pens work with an app on >>> smartphones. Our students love them and we are in the process of purchasing >>> more of these pens to loan out to our students. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 24, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Leyna Bencomo wrote: >>> >>> I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. >>> Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend >>> out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They >>> use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to >>> the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, >>> I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase >>> the pens every semester and we move on. >>> >>> >>> >>> If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but >>> for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that >>> benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual >>> notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical >>> notebook and find that sufficient. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Leyna Bencomo >>> >>> Assistive Technology Specialist >>> >>> Office of Information Technology >>> >>> *University of Colorado Colorado Springs* >>> >>> 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 >>> >>> Colorado Springs, CO 80918 >>> >>> (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu >>> >>> http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* athen-list *On >>> Behalf Of *Hegney, Shaun >>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM >>> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >>> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >>> >>> >>> >>> Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with >>> reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / >>> update the firmware. >>> >>> >>> >>> *Shaun Hegney* >>> >>> *Program Specialist 2* >>> >>> Disability Support Services >>> >>> Spokane Falls Community College >>> >>> (509)-533-3544 >>> >>> Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* athen-list *On >>> Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon >>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM >>> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >>> *Subject:* [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> >>> I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update >>> her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. >>> She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her >>> problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, >>> but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. >>> >>> >>> >>> Any suggestions or advise? >>> >>> >>> >>> As always, thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> Bryon >>> >>> >>> >>> *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* >>> >>> *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* >>> >>> *Disability Resource Center* >>> >>> *Adjunct Professor* >>> >>> *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* >>> >>> >>> >>> *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* >>> 103 Frist Hall >>> 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 >>> >>> Chattanooga, TN 37403 >>> >>> >>> >>> (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc >>> >>> >>> >>> *A member of the **Division of Student Development* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> >>> >>> *SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE* >>> *IMPORTANT: The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely >>> for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >>> confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any use, disclosure, or >>> taking of any action in reliance upon this information by any person and/or >>> entity other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. >>> If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by >>> return e-mail and delete it from your computer immediately.* >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> >> >> >> -- >> Robert Spangler >> Disability Services Technical Support Specialist >> rspangler1@udayton.edu >> Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 >> Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) >> University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 >> Phone: 937-229-2066 >> Fax: 937-229-3270 >> Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of >> hearing) >> Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> >> > > > -- > Connie Hackett > Assistive Technology Technician > Springfield Technical Community College > 413.755.4082 > cmhackett@stcc.edu > > *SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE* > *IMPORTANT: The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely > for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or legally privileged material. 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URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Mon Aug 27 11:40:37 2018 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Mon Aug 27 11:41:18 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is this an add-on to the Smart Pen Echo Desktop software? On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:00 PM Wink Harner wrote: > Robert et al, > > There is an add-on program for handwriting recognition for the LS & Echo > pens that converts the handwritten notes transferred to a desktop or laptop > computer to text files. Or the handwritten notes can be transferred to a > computer and just saved as-is to pdfs in handwritten format. > > Does that help? > Wink Harner > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > The Foreign Type > > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:52 AM Robert Spangler > wrote: > >> How do you extract notes from the pen to PDF? >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:08 AM Place, Vicki >> wrote: >> >>> We also do similar. We loan the book and pen and at the end of the >>> quarter, if they want their notes, we extract them to a PDF and send them >>> to the student through Canvas. We never let them use Echo desktop. There >>> can be too may issues and we do not want to have to troubleshoot for them. >>> It is a simple and effective process. >>> >>> >>> >>> ============================= >>> >>> *Vicki Place* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Columbia Basin College* >>> >>> *Assistive Technology Center* >>> >>> *Program Support Supervisor II* >>> >>> >>> >>> Phone: (509) 542-4428 >>> >>> On-Campus Ext.: 2428 >>> >>> Location: T422 >>> Mail Stop: MS-T6 >>> >>> >>> >>> Hours: >>> >>> 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs >>> >>> 7:00 am- Noon; Friday >>> >>> >>> >>> *California State University, Northridge * >>> >>> Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. >>> >>> -Hannah Gadsby >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] >>> *On Behalf Of *Leyna Bencomo >>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:13 PM >>> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network >>> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >>> >>> >>> >>> I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. >>> Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend >>> out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They >>> use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to >>> the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, >>> I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase >>> the pens every semester and we move on. >>> >>> >>> >>> If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but >>> for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that >>> benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual >>> notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical >>> notebook and find that sufficient. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Leyna Bencomo >>> >>> Assistive Technology Specialist >>> >>> Office of Information Technology >>> >>> *University of Colorado Colorado Springs* >>> >>> 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 >>> >>> Colorado Springs, CO 80918 >>> >>> (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu >>> >>> http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ >>> >>> [image: sig logo small] >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* athen-list *On >>> Behalf Of *Hegney, Shaun >>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM >>> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >>> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >>> >>> >>> >>> Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with >>> reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / >>> update the firmware. >>> >>> >>> >>> *Shaun Hegney* >>> >>> *Program Specialist 2* >>> >>> Disability Support Services >>> >>> Spokane Falls Community College >>> >>> (509)-533-3544 >>> >>> Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* athen-list *On >>> Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon >>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM >>> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >>> *Subject:* [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> >>> I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update >>> her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. >>> She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her >>> problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, >>> but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. >>> >>> >>> >>> Any suggestions or advise? >>> >>> >>> >>> As always, thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> Bryon >>> >>> >>> >>> *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* >>> >>> *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* >>> >>> *Disability Resource Center* >>> >>> *Adjunct Professor* >>> >>> *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* >>> >>> [image: Power C] >>> >>> *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* >>> 103 Frist Hall >>> 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 >>> >>> Chattanooga, TN 37403 >>> >>> >>> >>> (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc >>> >>> >>> >>> *A member of the **Division of Student Development* >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> >> >> >> -- >> Robert Spangler >> Disability Services Technical Support Specialist >> rspangler1@udayton.edu >> Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 >> Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) >> University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 >> Phone: 937-229-2066 >> Fax: 937-229-3270 >> Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of >> hearing) >> Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 11:43:08 2018 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Mon Aug 27 11:44:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: <8D9B3443-EFB3-46E5-AF11-9258D152BB4C@stcc.edu> Message-ID: Robert, Only the audio portion of the lectures are stored on the phones/tablets. The files stored on the pen include the video of the writing which must be transferred to the computer and linked to the audio file. Once that is done, the files/folders can be removed from the pens. Does that help clarify? We typically check out the pens for a semester or an entire academic year. When I was at SOU the students had the opportunity to purchase the pens (at used cost) so they could keep the pens. Ask Shawn Foster for more info on how they're handling the pen checkouts. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:38 AM Robert Spangler wrote: > So just to clarify, they write the notes the same, in the special notebook > as if they were using an Echo pen, but instead of having to back everything > up to the desktop software, it's all stored on the student's phone? This > means that they can access all of this data even after returning the pen to > our office? > > Thanks for sharing this! This could make things a lot easier for us. I > have a lot of Echo pens, though, so I'll have to use all of those until > they die off first. > > Thanks, > Robert > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:21 PM Hackett, Connie > wrote: > >> *The Livescribe3 pen uses a ballpoint pen which is much better than the >> echo. It uses Bluetooth Smart to send everything you write to the >> smartphone or tablet. The smartphone or tablet is used to record the audio >> portion of the lecture. The notes both written and audio are saved on the >> smartphone or tablet.* >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Robert Spangler > > wrote: >> >>> We currently have the Echo pens and haven't experienced many issues with >>> them, but yes the desktop software has been a real pain in the neck. What >>> are the differences between the Livescribe 3 pen and Echo pen? Is there a >>> significant cost difference? >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 6:44 PM Connie Hackett >>> wrote: >>> >>>> We were having all kinds of issues with the echo pens so we switch to >>>> the Livescribe 3 pens which are great. These pens work with an app on >>>> smartphones. Our students love them and we are in the process of purchasing >>>> more of these pens to loan out to our students. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Aug 24, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Leyna Bencomo wrote: >>>> >>>> I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart >>>> pens. Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I >>>> lend out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. >>>> They use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload >>>> to the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request >>>> it, I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I >>>> erase the pens every semester and we move on. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but >>>> for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that >>>> benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual >>>> notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical >>>> notebook and find that sufficient. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Leyna Bencomo >>>> >>>> Assistive Technology Specialist >>>> >>>> Office of Information Technology >>>> >>>> *University of Colorado Colorado Springs* >>>> >>>> 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 >>>> >>>> Colorado Springs, CO 80918 >>>> >>>> (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu >>>> >>>> http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* athen-list *On >>>> Behalf Of *Hegney, Shaun >>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM >>>> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with >>>> reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / >>>> update the firmware. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Shaun Hegney* >>>> >>>> *Program Specialist 2* >>>> >>>> Disability Support Services >>>> >>>> Spokane Falls Community College >>>> >>>> (509)-533-3544 >>>> >>>> Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* athen-list *On >>>> Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon >>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM >>>> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >>>> *Subject:* [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update >>>> her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. >>>> She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her >>>> problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, >>>> but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Any suggestions or advise? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As always, thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bryon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* >>>> >>>> *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* >>>> >>>> *Disability Resource Center* >>>> >>>> *Adjunct Professor* >>>> >>>> *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* >>>> 103 Frist Hall >>>> 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 >>>> >>>> Chattanooga, TN 37403 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *A member of the **Division of Student Development* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> athen-list mailing list >>>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >>>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>>> >>>> >>>> *SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE* >>>> *IMPORTANT: The information contained in this e-mail is intended >>>> solely for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >>>> confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any use, disclosure, or >>>> taking of any action in reliance upon this information by any person and/or >>>> entity other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. >>>> If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by >>>> return e-mail and delete it from your computer immediately.* >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> athen-list mailing list >>>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >>>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Robert Spangler >>> Disability Services Technical Support Specialist >>> rspangler1@udayton.edu >>> Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 >>> Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) >>> University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 >>> Phone: 937-229-2066 >>> Fax: 937-229-3270 >>> Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of >>> hearing) >>> Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Connie Hackett >> Assistive Technology Technician >> Springfield Technical Community College >> 413.755.4082 >> cmhackett@stcc.edu >> >> *SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE* >> *IMPORTANT: The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely >> for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >> confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any use, disclosure, or >> taking of any action in reliance upon this information by any person and/or >> entity other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. >> If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by >> return e-mail and delete it from your computer immediately.* >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 12:49:34 2018 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Mon Aug 27 12:51:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes. It's called MyScript. Here's a link: https://www.myscript.com/ Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:41 AM Robert Spangler wrote: > Is this an add-on to the Smart Pen Echo Desktop software? > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:00 PM Wink Harner wrote: > >> Robert et al, >> >> There is an add-on program for handwriting recognition for the LS & Echo >> pens that converts the handwritten notes transferred to a desktop or laptop >> computer to text files. Or the handwritten notes can be transferred to a >> computer and just saved as-is to pdfs in handwritten format. >> >> Does that help? >> Wink Harner >> Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production >> The Foreign Type >> >> Portland OR >> foreigntype@gmail.com >> 480-984-0034 >> >> This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive >> quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:52 AM Robert Spangler >> wrote: >> >>> How do you extract notes from the pen to PDF? >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:08 AM Place, Vicki >>> wrote: >>> >>>> We also do similar. We loan the book and pen and at the end of the >>>> quarter, if they want their notes, we extract them to a PDF and send them >>>> to the student through Canvas. We never let them use Echo desktop. There >>>> can be too may issues and we do not want to have to troubleshoot for them. >>>> It is a simple and effective process. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================= >>>> >>>> *Vicki Place* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Columbia Basin College* >>>> >>>> *Assistive Technology Center* >>>> >>>> *Program Support Supervisor II* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Phone: (509) 542-4428 >>>> >>>> On-Campus Ext.: 2428 >>>> >>>> Location: T422 >>>> Mail Stop: MS-T6 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hours: >>>> >>>> 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs >>>> >>>> 7:00 am- Noon; Friday >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *California State University, Northridge * >>>> >>>> Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. >>>> >>>> -Hannah Gadsby >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* athen-list [mailto: >>>> athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Leyna >>>> Bencomo >>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:13 PM >>>> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart >>>> pens. Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I >>>> lend out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. >>>> They use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload >>>> to the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request >>>> it, I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I >>>> erase the pens every semester and we move on. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but >>>> for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that >>>> benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual >>>> notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical >>>> notebook and find that sufficient. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Leyna Bencomo >>>> >>>> Assistive Technology Specialist >>>> >>>> Office of Information Technology >>>> >>>> *University of Colorado Colorado Springs* >>>> >>>> 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 >>>> >>>> Colorado Springs, CO 80918 >>>> >>>> (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu >>>> >>>> http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ >>>> >>>> [image: sig logo small] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* athen-list *On >>>> Behalf Of *Hegney, Shaun >>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM >>>> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with >>>> reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / >>>> update the firmware. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Shaun Hegney* >>>> >>>> *Program Specialist 2* >>>> >>>> Disability Support Services >>>> >>>> Spokane Falls Community College >>>> >>>> (509)-533-3544 >>>> >>>> Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* athen-list *On >>>> Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon >>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM >>>> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' >>>> *Subject:* [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update >>>> her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. >>>> She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her >>>> problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, >>>> but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Any suggestions or advise? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As always, thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bryon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* >>>> >>>> *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* >>>> >>>> *Disability Resource Center* >>>> >>>> *Adjunct Professor* >>>> >>>> *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* >>>> >>>> [image: Power C] >>>> >>>> *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* >>>> 103 Frist Hall >>>> 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 >>>> >>>> Chattanooga, TN 37403 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *A member of the **Division of Student Development* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> athen-list mailing list >>>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >>>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Robert Spangler >>> Disability Services Technical Support Specialist >>> rspangler1@udayton.edu >>> Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 >>> Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) >>> University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 >>> Phone: 937-229-2066 >>> Fax: 937-229-3270 >>> Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of >>> hearing) >>> Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crobinson at ggc.edu Mon Aug 27 13:02:10 2018 From: crobinson at ggc.edu (Christine Robinson) Date: Mon Aug 27 13:02:19 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: <8D9B3443-EFB3-46E5-AF11-9258D152BB4C@stcc.edu> Message-ID: Yes, what Wink described is how it works on the Echo pens. To compare with the Livescribe 3 pens: In this case, the whole ?pencast? (audio + video of writing the notes) is stored on the phone or tablet. You can play the audio & see the written notes right on the mobile device. I have my pen set so that it can record to either my smartphone or tablet. When I feel like it?s taking up too much space on my device, I can send/share the PDF notes to my Evernote account, and with a couple more steps, can listen to & watch the PDF pencasts on Livescribe?s web player. The web player has some other options like changing the playback speed, and making it easier to scrub forward & backward in the recording. There?s definitely a higher learning curve with the additional features of the Livescribe 3 pen ? especially if you start downloading the PDFs. I love mine, but if I were loaning them to students, I think the Echo pens would be easier for them to use. Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence | 678-407-5193 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 2:43 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Robert, Only the audio portion of the lectures are stored on the phones/tablets. The files stored on the pen include the video of the writing which must be transferred to the computer and linked to the audio file. Once that is done, the files/folders can be removed from the pens. Does that help clarify? We typically check out the pens for a semester or an entire academic year. When I was at SOU the students had the opportunity to purchase the pens (at used cost) so they could keep the pens. Ask Shawn Foster for more info on how they're handling the pen checkouts. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:38 AM Robert Spangler > wrote: So just to clarify, they write the notes the same, in the special notebook as if they were using an Echo pen, but instead of having to back everything up to the desktop software, it's all stored on the student's phone? This means that they can access all of this data even after returning the pen to our office? Thanks for sharing this! This could make things a lot easier for us. I have a lot of Echo pens, though, so I'll have to use all of those until they die off first. Thanks, Robert On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:21 PM Hackett, Connie > wrote: The Livescribe3 pen uses a ballpoint pen which is much better than the echo. It uses Bluetooth Smart to send everything you write to the smartphone or tablet. The smartphone or tablet is used to record the audio portion of the lecture. The notes both written and audio are saved on the smartphone or tablet. On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Robert Spangler > wrote: We currently have the Echo pens and haven't experienced many issues with them, but yes the desktop software has been a real pain in the neck. What are the differences between the Livescribe 3 pen and Echo pen? Is there a significant cost difference? On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 6:44 PM Connie Hackett > wrote: We were having all kinds of issues with the echo pens so we switch to the Livescribe 3 pens which are great. These pens work with an app on smartphones. Our students love them and we are in the process of purchasing more of these pens to loan out to our students. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Leyna Bencomo > wrote: I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase the pens every semester and we move on. If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical notebook and find that sufficient. Regards, Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Hegney, Shaun Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / update the firmware. Shaun Hegney Program Specialist 2 Disability Support Services Spokane Falls Community College (509)-533-3544 Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hi all, I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. Any suggestions or advise? As always, thanks! Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE IMPORTANT: The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any use, disclosure, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by any person and/or entity other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. 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URL: From vplace at columbiabasin.edu Mon Aug 27 14:02:39 2018 From: vplace at columbiabasin.edu (Place, Vicki) Date: Mon Aug 27 14:03:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have attached a tutorial on how to do this. Now, if they want their notes separated by subject, you select those pages by holding down the ctrl key to select all pages then save as shown in the tutorial. I tell my students if they want their notes by subject, they have to add a title to each page or I will just save it as one PDF file as I cannot separate them because it?s just too hard to find the different classes. Hope this helps? ============================= Vicki Place Columbia Basin College Assistive Technology Center Program Support Supervisor II Phone: (509) 542-4428 On-Campus Ext.: 2428 Location: T422 Mail Stop: MS-T6 Hours: 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs 7:00 am- Noon; Friday California State University, Northridge Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. -Hannah Gadsby From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 10:51 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues How do you extract notes from the pen to PDF? On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:08 AM Place, Vicki > wrote: We also do similar. We loan the book and pen and at the end of the quarter, if they want their notes, we extract them to a PDF and send them to the student through Canvas. We never let them use Echo desktop. There can be too may issues and we do not want to have to troubleshoot for them. It is a simple and effective process. ============================= Vicki Place Columbia Basin College Assistive Technology Center Program Support Supervisor II Phone: (509) 542-4428 On-Campus Ext.: 2428 Location: T422 Mail Stop: MS-T6 Hours: 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs 7:00 am- Noon; Friday California State University, Northridge Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. -Hannah Gadsby From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Leyna Bencomo Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:13 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase the pens every semester and we move on. If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical notebook and find that sufficient. Regards, Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ [sig logo small] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Hegney, Shaun Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / update the firmware. Shaun Hegney Program Specialist 2 Disability Support Services Spokane Falls Community College (509)-533-3544 Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hi all, I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. Any suggestions or advise? As always, thanks! Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Livescribe Pen - Notes Extraction Tutorial.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 346907 bytes Desc: Livescribe Pen - Notes Extraction Tutorial.docx URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Mon Aug 27 17:31:04 2018 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Mon Aug 27 17:31:46 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for this. On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 5:11 PM Place, Vicki wrote: > I have attached a tutorial on how to do this. Now, if they want their > notes separated by subject, you select those pages by holding down the ctrl > key to select all pages then save as shown in the tutorial. I tell my > students if they want their notes by subject, they have to add a title to > each page or I will just save it as one PDF file as I cannot separate them > because it?s just too hard to find the different classes. > > > > Hope this helps? > > > > ============================= > > *Vicki Place* > > > > *Columbia Basin College* > > *Assistive Technology Center* > > *Program Support Supervisor II* > > > > Phone: (509) 542-4428 > > On-Campus Ext.: 2428 > > Location: T422 > Mail Stop: MS-T6 > > > > Hours: > > 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs > > 7:00 am- Noon; Friday > > > > *California State University, Northridge * > > Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. > > -Hannah Gadsby > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Robert Spangler > *Sent:* Monday, August 27, 2018 10:51 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > > How do you extract notes from the pen to PDF? > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:08 AM Place, Vicki > wrote: > > We also do similar. We loan the book and pen and at the end of the > quarter, if they want their notes, we extract them to a PDF and send them > to the student through Canvas. We never let them use Echo desktop. There > can be too may issues and we do not want to have to troubleshoot for them. > It is a simple and effective process. > > > > ============================= > > *Vicki Place* > > > > *Columbia Basin College* > > *Assistive Technology Center* > > *Program Support Supervisor II* > > > > Phone: (509) 542-4428 > > On-Campus Ext.: 2428 > > Location: T422 > Mail Stop: MS-T6 > > > > Hours: > > 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs > > 7:00 am- Noon; Friday > > > > *California State University, Northridge * > > Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. > > -Hannah Gadsby > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Leyna Bencomo > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:13 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > > I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. > Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend > out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They > use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to > the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, > I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase > the pens every semester and we move on. > > > > If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but > for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that > benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual > notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical > notebook and find that sufficient. > > > > Regards, > > > > Leyna Bencomo > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Office of Information Technology > > *University of Colorado Colorado Springs* > > 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 > > Colorado Springs, CO 80918 > > (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu > > http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ > > [image: sig logo small] > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Hegney, Shaun > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM > *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > > Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with > reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / > update the firmware. > > > > *Shaun Hegney* > > *Program Specialist 2* > > Disability Support Services > > Spokane Falls Community College > > (509)-533-3544 > > Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM > *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > *Subject:* [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her > pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She > just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her > problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, > but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. > > > > Any suggestions or advise? > > > > As always, thanks! > > > > Bryon > > > > *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* > > *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* > > *Disability Resource Center* > > *Adjunct Professor* > > *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* > > [image: Power C] > > *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* > 103 Frist Hall > 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 > > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > > > (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc > > > > *A member of the **Division of Student Development* > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Maria.Spade at stockton.edu Tue Aug 28 06:24:52 2018 From: Maria.Spade at stockton.edu (Spade, Maria) Date: Tue Aug 28 06:25:06 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello all. For anyone who was looking into myscript, they are no longer offering it (see message below from their rep). If anyone knows of another add-on that will transfer handwriting to text please let me know. Since the beginning of 2018, we don't support anymore the application plug-in MyScript for Livescribe. Our focus is on Nebo and Calculator 2 development and we have a lot of projects for our user community. To support this investment, we decided to remove the previous app generation https://myscript.com/retired-apps/ We announced this to Livescribe middle of 2017 and if you see on their website there is no mention to our plug-in (they took the different activities to don't offer this plug-in). Sorry for this, we will no plan to offer any other replacement or new plug-in for this digital pen. Thanks for your understanding. Best regards, MyScript Apps https://twitter.com/MyScriptApps Thank you, Maria Spade Adaptive Technology Specialist Pronouns: She, her, hers Stockton University Learning Access Program, J-204 101 Vera King Farris Drive Galloway, NJ 08205 609.652.4988 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 3:50 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues *** External email alert *** Yes. It's called MyScript. Here's a link: https://www.myscript.com/ Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:41 AM Robert Spangler > wrote: Is this an add-on to the Smart Pen Echo Desktop software? On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:00 PM Wink Harner > wrote: Robert et al, There is an add-on program for handwriting recognition for the LS & Echo pens that converts the handwritten notes transferred to a desktop or laptop computer to text files. Or the handwritten notes can be transferred to a computer and just saved as-is to pdfs in handwritten format. Does that help? Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:52 AM Robert Spangler > wrote: How do you extract notes from the pen to PDF? On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:08 AM Place, Vicki > wrote: We also do similar. We loan the book and pen and at the end of the quarter, if they want their notes, we extract them to a PDF and send them to the student through Canvas. We never let them use Echo desktop. There can be too may issues and we do not want to have to troubleshoot for them. It is a simple and effective process. ============================= Vicki Place Columbia Basin College Assistive Technology Center Program Support Supervisor II Phone: (509) 542-4428 On-Campus Ext.: 2428 Location: T422 Mail Stop: MS-T6 Hours: 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs 7:00 am- Noon; Friday California State University, Northridge Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. -Hannah Gadsby From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Leyna Bencomo Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:13 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase the pens every semester and we move on. If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical notebook and find that sufficient. Regards, Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Hegney, Shaun Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / update the firmware. Shaun Hegney Program Specialist 2 Disability Support Services Spokane Falls Community College (509)-533-3544 Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hi all, I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. Any suggestions or advise? As always, thanks! Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu Tue Aug 28 06:35:13 2018 From: Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu (Kluesner, Bryon) Date: Tue Aug 28 06:35:20 2018 Subject: [Athen] Portfolium Message-ID: Hi, Is anyone familiar with Portfolium and its accessibility? I maneuvered around their website (Portfolium.com) with JAWS and did not have any issues with links and the site. I am looking for anyone else's direct interaction with the site. Thanks, Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7792 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Tue Aug 28 09:27:36 2018 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype) Date: Tue Aug 28 09:26:29 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5b857795.1c69fb81.6d11.4812@mx.google.com> Thanks for that info, Maria.? I was unaware MyScript had been discontinued.? Wink Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: "Spade, Maria" Date: 8/28/18 6:24 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues Hello all. For anyone who was looking into myscript, they are no longer offering it (see message below from their rep). If anyone knows of another add-on that will transfer handwriting to text please let me know. ? Since the beginning of 2018, we don't support anymore the application plug-in MyScript for Livescribe. Our focus is on Nebo and Calculator 2 development and we have a lot of projects for our user community. To support this investment, we decided to remove the previous app generation? https://myscript.com/retired-apps/ We announced this to Livescribe middle of 2017 and if you see on their website there is no mention to our plug-in (they took the different activities to don't offer this plug-in). Sorry for this, we will no plan to offer any other replacement or new plug-in for this digital pen. Thanks for your understanding. Best regards, MyScript Apps https://twitter.com/MyScriptApps ? Thank you, ? Maria Spade ? Adaptive Technology Specialist Pronouns: She, her, hers ? Stockton University Learning Access Program, J-204 101 Vera King Farris Drive Galloway, NJ 08205 609.652.4988 ? ? ? From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 3:50 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues ? *** External email alert *** Yes. It's called MyScript. Here's a link: https://www.myscript.com/ ? ? Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . ? ? On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:41 AM Robert Spangler wrote: Is this an add-on to the Smart Pen Echo Desktop software? ? ? On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:00 PM Wink Harner wrote: Robert et al, ? There is an add-on program for handwriting recognition for the LS & Echo pens that converts the handwritten notes transferred to a desktop or laptop computer to text files. Or the handwritten notes can be transferred to a computer and just saved as-is to pdfs in handwritten format. ? Does that help? Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . ? ? On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:52 AM Robert Spangler wrote: How do you extract notes from the pen to PDF? ? ? On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:08 AM Place, Vicki wrote: We also do similar.? We loan the book and pen and at the end of the quarter, if they want their notes, we extract them to a PDF and send them to the student through Canvas.? We never let them use Echo desktop.? There can be too may issues and we do not want to have to troubleshoot for them.? It is a simple and effective process. ? ============================= Vicki Place ? Columbia Basin College Assistive Technology Center Program Support Supervisor II ? Phone: (509) 542-4428 On-Campus Ext.: 2428 Location:??T422 Mail Stop: MS-T6 ? Hours:? 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs 7:00 am- Noon; Friday ? California State University, Northridge? Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. -Hannah Gadsby ? From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Leyna Bencomo Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:13 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues ? I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens.? Too many issues.? It?s been awhile since I have tried.? Currently, I lend out pens every semester.? Students use them to take notes and record.? They use the paper notebook and the pen to listen.? We don?t use the upload to the computer for anything.? At the end of the semester, if they request it, I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them.? I erase the pens every semester and we move on. ?? ? If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking.? They get that benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop.? The virtual notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical notebook and find that sufficient.? ? Regards, ? Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ ? From: athen-list On Behalf Of Hegney, Shaun Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues ? Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / update ?the firmware. ? Shaun Hegney Program Specialist 2 Disability Support Services Spokane Falls Community College (509)-533-3544 Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu ? ? From: athen-list On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues ? Hi all, ? I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. ? Any suggestions or advise? ? As always, thanks! ? Bryon ? Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga? 103 Frist Hall? 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 ? 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Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton ?| 300 College Park ?| ?Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kschoeb1 at swarthmore.edu Tue Aug 28 10:07:07 2018 From: kschoeb1 at swarthmore.edu (Corrine Schoeb) Date: Tue Aug 28 10:08:00 2018 Subject: [Athen] Thank you for Audio Description help Message-ID: Quick note to thank everyone who responded to my questions about foreign language (in this case Spanish) audio descriptions. I got some really helpful responses and resources and decided to add them the to a Trello Board (https://trello.com/b/XikLZ8j1/accessibility-resources). Am fairly new to Trello but think you should all have access to this. Thanks again for all the help. -- Corrine Schoeb Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS 610-957-6208 *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including by email. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and the security of our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kschoeb1 at swarthmore.edu Tue Aug 28 10:14:27 2018 From: kschoeb1 at swarthmore.edu (Corrine Schoeb) Date: Tue Aug 28 10:15:16 2018 Subject: [Athen] LaTex Guidelines Message-ID: Many of our STEM faculty use LaTex to create PDFs documents and wondering if anyone can point me towards guidelines for creating accessible LaTex documents. If student understands how to work with LaTex I'm suggesting that faculty provide students with the LaTex file. However, some students, particularly freshman, may not understand or know how to work with LaTex and I'd like to provide faculty (and my team) with guidelines/best practices for creating accessible PDF's from LaTex. Appreciate any suggestions you all might have. -- Corrine Schoeb Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS 610-957-6208 *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including by email. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and the security of our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kdmarks at asu.edu Tue Aug 28 10:58:07 2018 From: kdmarks at asu.edu (Kathy Marks) Date: Tue Aug 28 10:58:34 2018 Subject: [Athen] Web Accessibility Specialist position at ASU Message-ID: Arizona State University has posted an opportunity to join the University Technology Office as a Web Accessibility Specialist. Successful candidates will be passionate about web accessibility and have demonstrable ability to: * Audit and remediate websites and applications * Develop and direct accessibility plans and efforts at an enterprise level * Create and implement design, development, training, and community engagement projects to achieve the university's accessibility goals For a full job description and to submit an application, please see https://sjobs.brassring.com/TGnewUI/Search/Home/Home?partnerid=25620&siteid=5494#jobDetails=3579493_5494 Please forward this information to individuals who may be interested in this opportunity! Thanks! Kathy Kathy Marks | Web Accessibility Specialist | UTO | Arizona State University | kdmarks@asu.edu | 602-826-1401 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com Tue Aug 28 12:01:34 2018 From: krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com (Krista Greear) Date: Tue Aug 28 12:02:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] LaTex Guidelines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Corrine! Great question. I?m going to share the following with the context that I used to manage a large content remediation team, and we produced accessible math files. I offer this as an example of ?what one person thinks?. *Immediate Answers to Your Questions* - I don?t have recommendations regarding LaTeX Guidelines. - I recommend avoiding PDFs, especially for STEM Accessibility. *Terminology* LaTeX is the de facto standard for publishing mathematical and scientific notation in print. It is a typesetting system. It was ?founded? in the early 80s. Someone can type LaTeX. MathML is the W3C standard for publishing mathematical and scientific notation on the web. It is a specific mark-up language. It was founded in the late 90s. MathML is not designed to be created by hand, but rather relies on using an equation editor to create the equations visually, with the actual code generated by the equation editor. Adaptive technology can interpret MathML and ?read? it correctly (assuming your technology of choice is programmed to read MathML). Because LaTeX was NOT designed for the web, virtually all adaptive technologies cannot read LaTeX as math should be read. *Tools * MathType is a software that can produce both LaTeX and MathML. In MathType, you can type LaTeX and convert it to MathML. Or you can create MathML directly by using the equation editor to create the equations. You can then work backwards and produce LaTeX if needed. MathType also works as a plug-in for Microsoft products. I recommend using MathType because it offers that ?back and forth? flexibility between LaTeX (what STEM instructors use) and MathML (what should be used for digital/online content creation). *What I Recommend* I would argue that MathML marked up Word documents is the most flexible option for various users at this time. Why? 1. I can create or use a MathML marked up Word document, input it into Central Access Reader (a free text-to-speech tool). Central Access Reader will then read it aloud (yes, even the math); it can highlight text for me and I have control over the speed, voice, and can export to an .mp3. 2. I could open a MathML marked up Word document within Central Access Reader, and export to an HTML file (which contains MathML). Then I can use that HTML file with Firefox, NVDA (a free screenreader) and MathPlayer (a free plug-in designed to read math). The blind person can even explore the math, reading one piece of the equation at a time. 3. I could take those MathML marked up Word documents, send it to Duxbury (brailling software), and produce embossed Nemeth Braille. Math Braille is called Nemeth Braille and is now part of UEB (Unified English braille). I can meet a variety of needs using a basic process when I use MathML within Word documents. *Summary* - The default math system (LaTeX) most STEM instructors use is not accessible to adaptive technology. - MathML is the standard for publishing math content online. LaTeX will should be converted into MathML for any digital or online publication. - Encourage your instructors to use MathType which can work with LaTeX and MathML, going between the two since they will keep using LaTeX. - Avoid PDFs containing math at all costs. PDFs do not currently support MathML. - If you have a blind student who majors in a program that is heavy on math, they will likely be more successful if they learn LaTeX. And learning Nemeth Braille is also important. - If a student knows LaTeX though, providing them with the LaTeX file is an excellent choice. - MathML marked up Word documents provides the most flexibility, in my opinion. -- Krista Greear Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 11:17 AM Corrine Schoeb wrote: > Many of our STEM faculty use LaTex to create PDFs documents and wondering > if anyone can point me towards guidelines for creating accessible LaTex > documents. > > If student understands how to work with LaTex I'm suggesting that faculty > provide students with the LaTex file. > > However, some students, particularly freshman, may not understand or know > how to work with LaTex and I'd like to provide faculty (and my team) with > guidelines/best practices for creating accessible PDF's from LaTex. > > Appreciate any suggestions you all might have. > > -- > > Corrine Schoeb > Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS > 610-957-6208 > > *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including > by email. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and the > security of our network. > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Tue Aug 28 12:12:56 2018 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Tue Aug 28 12:22:16 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible Fillable PDF Forms (Book Only) Message-ID: <000a01d43f03$215aaf30$64100d90$@karlencommunications.com> Hi Everyone: I just created a "course" for those who don't need the online course, but are interested in the book as a resource. The link takes you directly to the book purchase page in the Karen McCall School in teachable so you don't have to guess at what you're looking for. https://karen-mccall.teachable.com/p/accessible-fillable-pdf-forms-book The book does have a sample form for you to work through and the finished form. I'm also updating my Microsoft Office tutorials and have created a free course on Teachable that I'm putting them in. I think it will be easier for me to keep track of them.hopefully. If not, I'll put them on the website. Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Wed Aug 29 05:54:14 2018 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Wed Aug 29 05:54:53 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Message-ID: Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adietrich at cornell.edu Wed Aug 29 06:02:56 2018 From: adietrich at cornell.edu (Andrea L. Dietrich) Date: Wed Aug 29 06:03:20 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use a free program called Calibre (also available in a ?portable? version in case you don?t have the ability to install software on your computers yourself). It?s designed as a general ebook management program, but it has really good conversion capabilities. The only issues I?ve had with epub to PDF are that sometimes the conversion will divide pages in odd places, and that there are usually no original page numbers to correspond to the hard copy of the book. Depending on your time constraints, you might want to convert the epub to .docx, add page breaks manually in Word, and then convert that file to PDF so that you can ?recreate? the original publisher layout for the book, but obviously that?s more time-consuming. Good luck! -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From resitton at ncsu.edu Wed Aug 29 06:31:50 2018 From: resitton at ncsu.edu (Rebecca Sitton) Date: Wed Aug 29 06:32:25 2018 Subject: [Athen] Smartpen Issues Message-ID: Hi, I have been on chat support 3x with Livescribe. I am pretty sure the current issue is with their server. If more of you can initiate Chat support for your issues, they may see it is not just my students having issues. We have about 300 Echo Pens that we loan out. I prefer the Echo over the Livescribe 3 because my students usually have very little memory left on their devices and the pen/paper work independently of the software. I also really push using the 3D Recording headset use as it makes a superior recording to the microphone on the pen. Go to Livescribe Support Click on the "Blue Chat with us" box in the corner. Thanks! Rebecca E Sitton Assistive Technology Coordinator *Disability Resource Office* University College Commons, Suite 304 2751 Cates Avenue Campus Box 7509 Raleigh, NC 27695-7509 Email: resitton@ncsu.edu NCSU Disability Resources Office Website CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission has been sent by the Disability Services Office at NC State University. It may contain information that is confidential or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message, any part of it, or any attachments. 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On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 3:00 PM, < athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu> wrote: > Send athen-list mailing list submissions to > athen-list@u.washington.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-list-owner@mailman12.u.washington.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Live Scribe smart pen issues (Wink Harner) > 2. Re: Live Scribe smart pen issues (Christine Robinson) > 3. Re: Live Scribe smart pen issues (Place, Vicki) > 4. Re: Live Scribe smart pen issues (Robert Spangler) > 5. Re: Live Scribe smart pen issues (Spade, Maria) > 6. Portfolium (Kluesner, Bryon) > 7. Re: Live Scribe smart pen issues (foreigntype) > 8. Thank you for Audio Description help (Corrine Schoeb) > 9. LaTex Guidelines (Corrine Schoeb) > 10. Web Accessibility Specialist position at ASU (Kathy Marks) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 12:49:34 -0700 > From: Wink Harner > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > Message-ID: > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Yes. It's called MyScript. Here's a link: https://www.myscript.com/ > > > Wink Harner > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > The Foreign Type > > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:41 AM Robert Spangler > wrote: > > > Is this an add-on to the Smart Pen Echo Desktop software? > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:00 PM Wink Harner > wrote: > > > >> Robert et al, > >> > >> There is an add-on program for handwriting recognition for the LS & Echo > >> pens that converts the handwritten notes transferred to a desktop or > laptop > >> computer to text files. Or the handwritten notes can be transferred to a > >> computer and just saved as-is to pdfs in handwritten format. > >> > >> Does that help? > >> Wink Harner > >> Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > >> The Foreign Type > >> > >> Portland OR > >> foreigntype@gmail.com > >> 480-984-0034 > >> > >> This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > >> quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:52 AM Robert Spangler < > rspangler1@udayton.edu> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> How do you extract notes from the pen to PDF? > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:08 AM Place, Vicki < > vplace@columbiabasin.edu> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> We also do similar. We loan the book and pen and at the end of the > >>>> quarter, if they want their notes, we extract them to a PDF and send > them > >>>> to the student through Canvas. We never let them use Echo desktop. > There > >>>> can be too may issues and we do not want to have to troubleshoot for > them. > >>>> It is a simple and effective process. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ============================= > >>>> > >>>> *Vicki Place* > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Columbia Basin College* > >>>> > >>>> *Assistive Technology Center* > >>>> > >>>> *Program Support Supervisor II* > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Phone: (509) 542-4428 > >>>> > >>>> On-Campus Ext.: 2428 > >>>> > >>>> Location: T422 > >>>> Mail Stop: MS-T6 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hours: > >>>> > >>>> 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs > >>>> > >>>> 7:00 am- Noon; Friday > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *California State University, Northridge * > >>>> > >>>> Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) > >>>> > >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>> > >>>> There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. > >>>> > >>>> -Hannah Gadsby > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *From:* athen-list [mailto: > >>>> athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Leyna > >>>> Bencomo > >>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:13 PM > >>>> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart > >>>> pens. Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. > Currently, I > >>>> lend out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and > record. > >>>> They use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the > upload > >>>> to the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they > request > >>>> it, I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to > them. I > >>>> erase the pens every semester and we move on. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story > but > >>>> for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get > that > >>>> benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual > >>>> notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject > physical > >>>> notebook and find that sufficient. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Leyna Bencomo > >>>> > >>>> Assistive Technology Specialist > >>>> > >>>> Office of Information Technology > >>>> > >>>> *University of Colorado Colorado Springs* > >>>> > >>>> 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 > >>>> > >>>> Colorado Springs, CO 80918 > >>>> > >>>> (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu > >>>> > >>>> http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ > >>>> > >>>> [image: sig logo small] > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *From:* athen-list > *On > >>>> Behalf Of *Hegney, Shaun > >>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM > >>>> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with > >>>> reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then > reset / > >>>> update the firmware. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Shaun Hegney* > >>>> > >>>> *Program Specialist 2* > >>>> > >>>> Disability Support Services > >>>> > >>>> Spokane Falls Community College > >>>> > >>>> (509)-533-3544 > >>>> > >>>> Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *From:* athen-list > *On > >>>> Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon > >>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM > >>>> *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > >>>> *Subject:* [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update > >>>> her pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not > valid. > >>>> She just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving > her > >>>> problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo > desktop, > >>>> but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Any suggestions or advise? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> As always, thanks! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Bryon > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* > >>>> > >>>> *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* > >>>> > >>>> *Disability Resource Center* > >>>> > >>>> *Adjunct Professor* > >>>> > >>>> *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* > >>>> > >>>> [image: Power C] > >>>> > >>>> *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* > >>>> 103 Frist Hall > >>>> 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 > >>>> > >>>> Chattanooga, TN 37403 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc > >>>> http%3A%2F%2Fwww.utc.edu%2Fdean-students&data=02%7C01% > 7Clbencomo%40uccs.edu%7C7ea5b18b306344dde3c908d60a06464c% > 7C529343fae8c8419fab2ea70c10038810%7C1%7C0%7C636707419404490803&sdata= > Hv7x2l3rPpe5PGvGmi2rZJvRgU%2FMFCXFupKqQv0m2zo%3D&reserved=0> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *A member of the **Division of Student Development* > >>>> http%3A%2F%2Fwww.utc.edu%2Fstudent-development&data=02% > 7C01%7Clbencomo%40uccs.edu%7C7ea5b18b306344dde3c908d60a06464c% > 7C529343fae8c8419fab2ea70c10038810%7C1%7C0%7C636707419404500820&sdata= > DvzK3u4GiwDotwGGOcvCiMnfGnbZGoWhz3x0hCGy5L4%3D&reserved=0> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> athen-list mailing list > >>>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > >>>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Robert Spangler > >>> Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > >>> rspangler1@udayton.edu > >>> Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > >>> Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > >>> University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > >>> Phone: 937-229-2066 > >>> Fax: 937-229-3270 > >>> Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of > >>> hearing) > >>> Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> athen-list mailing list > >>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > >>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> athen-list mailing list > >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > >> > > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > > rspangler1@udayton.edu > > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of > hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > > > _______________________________________________ > > athen-list mailing list > > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: 20180827/9d52b5d6/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 20:02:10 +0000 > From: Christine Robinson > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > Message-ID: > namprd04.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Yes, what Wink described is how it works on the Echo pens. > > To compare with the Livescribe 3 pens: In this case, the whole ?pencast? > (audio + video of writing the notes) is stored on the phone or tablet. You > can play the audio & see the written notes right on the mobile device. > > I have my pen set so that it can record to either my smartphone or tablet. > When I feel like it?s taking up too much space on my device, I can > send/share the PDF notes to my Evernote account, and with a couple more > steps, can listen to & watch the PDF pencasts on Livescribe?s web player< > https://www.livescribe.com/int/pdf/player/lsnotesdesktop.htm>. The web > player has some other options like changing the playback speed, and making > it easier to scrub forward & backward in the recording. > > There?s definitely a higher learning curve with the additional features of > the Livescribe 3 pen ? especially if you start downloading the PDFs. I love > mine, but if I were loaning them to students, I think the Echo pens would > be easier for them to use. > > Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching > Excellence | 678-407-5193 > > From: athen-list On > Behalf Of Wink Harner > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 2:43 PM > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > Robert, > > Only the audio portion of the lectures are stored on the phones/tablets. > The files stored on the pen include the video of the writing which must be > transferred to the computer and linked to the audio file. Once that is > done, the files/folders can be removed from the pens. Does that help > clarify? > > We typically check out the pens for a semester or an entire academic year. > When I was at SOU the students had the opportunity to purchase the pens (at > used cost) so they could keep the pens. Ask Shawn Foster for more info on > how they're handling the pen checkouts. > > Wink Harner > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > The Foreign Type > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:38 AM Robert Spangler mailto:rspangler1@udayton.edu>> wrote: > So just to clarify, they write the notes the same, in the special notebook > as if they were using an Echo pen, but instead of having to back everything > up to the desktop software, it's all stored on the student's phone? This > means that they can access all of this data even after returning the pen to > our office? > > Thanks for sharing this! This could make things a lot easier for us. I > have a lot of Echo pens, though, so I'll have to use all of those until > they die off first. > > Thanks, > Robert > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:21 PM Hackett, Connie > wrote: > The Livescribe3 pen uses a ballpoint pen which is much better than the > echo. It uses Bluetooth Smart to send everything you write to the > smartphone or tablet. The smartphone or tablet is used to record the audio > portion of the lecture. The notes both written and audio are saved on the > smartphone or tablet. > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Robert Spangler mailto:rspangler1@udayton.edu>> wrote: > We currently have the Echo pens and haven't experienced many issues with > them, but yes the desktop software has been a real pain in the neck. What > are the differences between the Livescribe 3 pen and Echo pen? Is there a > significant cost difference? > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 6:44 PM Connie Hackett cmhackett@stcc.edu>> wrote: > We were having all kinds of issues with the echo pens so we switch to the > Livescribe 3 pens which are great. These pens work with an app on > smartphones. Our students love them and we are in the process of purchasing > more of these pens to loan out to our students. > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 24, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Leyna Bencomo como@uccs.edu>> wrote: > I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. > Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend > out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They > use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to > the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, > I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase > the pens every semester and we move on. > > If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but > for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that > benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual > notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical > notebook and find that sufficient. > > Regards, > > Leyna Bencomo > Assistive Technology Specialist > Office of Information Technology > University of Colorado Colorado Springs > 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 > Colorado Springs, CO 80918 > (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu > http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ > > > From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Hegney, Shaun > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM > To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with > reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / > update the firmware. > > Shaun Hegney > Program Specialist 2 > Disability Support Services > Spokane Falls Community College > (509)-533-3544 > Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu > > > From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Kluesner, > Bryon > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM > To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > Hi all, > > I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her > pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She > just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her > problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, > but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. > > Any suggestions or advise? > > As always, thanks! > > Bryon > > Bryon Kluesner, RhD > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > Adjunct Professor > College of Health, Education & Professional Studies > > > > The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > 103 Frist Hall > 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.utc.edu%2Fdean-students&data=02% > 7C01%7Clbencomo%40uccs.edu%7C7ea5b18b306344dde3c908d60a06464c% > 7C529343fae8c8419fab2ea70c10038810%7C1%7C0%7C636707419404490803&sdata= > Hv7x2l3rPpe5PGvGmi2rZJvRgU%2FMFCXFupKqQv0m2zo%3D&reserved=0> > > > > A member of the Division of Student Development safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.utc. > edu%2Fstudent-development&data=02%7C01%7Clbencomo%40uccs.edu% > 7C7ea5b18b306344dde3c908d60a06464c%7C529343fae8c8419fab2ea70c1003 > 8810%7C1%7C0%7C636707419404500820&sdata=DvzK3u4GiwDotwGGOcvCiMnfGnbZGo > Whz3x0hCGy5L4%3D&reserved=0> > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu list@mailman12.u.washington.edu> > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE > IMPORTANT: The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely > for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or legally privileged material. 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Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu list@mailman12.u.washington.edu> > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > -- > Connie Hackett > Assistive Technology Technician > Springfield Technical Community College > 413.755.4082 > cmhackett@stcc.edu > > SPRINGFIELD TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE > IMPORTANT: The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely > for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any use, disclosure, or > taking of any action in reliance upon this information by any person and/or > entity other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. > If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by > return e-mail and delete it from your computer immediately. > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu list@mailman12.u.washington.edu> > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu list@mailman12.u.washington.edu> > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: 20180827/fa63a5cf/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 21:02:39 +0000 > From: "Place, Vicki" > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > Message-ID: > namprd08.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have attached a tutorial on how to do this. Now, if they want their > notes separated by subject, you select those pages by holding down the ctrl > key to select all pages then save as shown in the tutorial. I tell my > students if they want their notes by subject, they have to add a title to > each page or I will just save it as one PDF file as I cannot separate them > because it?s just too hard to find the different classes. > > Hope this helps? > > ============================= > Vicki Place > > Columbia Basin College > Assistive Technology Center > Program Support Supervisor II > > Phone: (509) 542-4428 > On-Campus Ext.: 2428 > Location: T422 > Mail Stop: MS-T6 > > Hours: > 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs > 7:00 am- Noon; Friday > > California State University, Northridge > Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. > -Hannah Gadsby > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 10:51 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > How do you extract notes from the pen to PDF? > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:08 AM Place, Vicki mailto:vplace@columbiabasin.edu>> wrote: > We also do similar. We loan the book and pen and at the end of the > quarter, if they want their notes, we extract them to a PDF and send them > to the student through Canvas. We never let them use Echo desktop. There > can be too may issues and we do not want to have to troubleshoot for them. > It is a simple and effective process. > > ============================= > Vicki Place > > Columbia Basin College > Assistive Technology Center > Program Support Supervisor II > > Phone: (509) 542-4428 > On-Campus Ext.: 2428 > Location: T422 > Mail Stop: MS-T6 > > Hours: > 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs > 7:00 am- Noon; Friday > > California State University, Northridge > Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. > -Hannah Gadsby > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu< > mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>] On Behalf Of Leyna > Bencomo > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:13 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. > Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend > out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They > use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to > the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, > I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase > the pens every semester and we move on. > > If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but > for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that > benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual > notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical > notebook and find that sufficient. > > Regards, > > Leyna Bencomo > Assistive Technology Specialist > Office of Information Technology > University of Colorado Colorado Springs > 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 > Colorado Springs, CO 80918 > (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu > http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ > [sig logo small] > > From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Hegney, Shaun > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM > To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with > reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / > update the firmware. > > Shaun Hegney > Program Specialist 2 > Disability Support Services > Spokane Falls Community College > (509)-533-3544 > Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu > > > From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Kluesner, > Bryon > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM > To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > Hi all, > > I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her > pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She > just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her > problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, > but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. > > Any suggestions or advise? > > As always, thanks! > > Bryon > > Bryon Kluesner, RhD > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > Adjunct Professor > College of Health, Education & Professional Studies > > [Power C] > > The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > 103 Frist Hall > 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.utc.edu%2Fdean-students&data=02% > 7C01%7Clbencomo%40uccs.edu%7C7ea5b18b306344dde3c908d60a06464c% > 7C529343fae8c8419fab2ea70c10038810%7C1%7C0%7C636707419404490803&sdata= > Hv7x2l3rPpe5PGvGmi2rZJvRgU%2FMFCXFupKqQv0m2zo%3D&reserved=0> > > > > A member of the Division of Student Development safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.utc. > edu%2Fstudent-development&data=02%7C01%7Clbencomo%40uccs.edu% > 7C7ea5b18b306344dde3c908d60a06464c%7C529343fae8c8419fab2ea70c1003 > 8810%7C1%7C0%7C636707419404500820&sdata=DvzK3u4GiwDotwGGOcvCiMnfGnbZGo > Whz3x0hCGy5L4%3D&reserved=0> > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu list@mailman12.u.washington.edu> > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: 20180827/56fcdf37/attachment-0001.html> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Livescribe Pen - Notes Extraction Tutorial.docx > Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument. > wordprocessingml.document > Size: 346907 bytes > Desc: Livescribe Pen - Notes Extraction Tutorial.docx > URL: 20180827/56fcdf37/attachment-0001.docx> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 20:31:04 -0400 > From: Robert Spangler > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > Message-ID: > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks for this. > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 5:11 PM Place, Vicki > wrote: > > > I have attached a tutorial on how to do this. Now, if they want their > > notes separated by subject, you select those pages by holding down the > ctrl > > key to select all pages then save as shown in the tutorial. I tell my > > students if they want their notes by subject, they have to add a title to > > each page or I will just save it as one PDF file as I cannot separate > them > > because it?s just too hard to find the different classes. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps? > > > > > > > > ============================= > > > > *Vicki Place* > > > > > > > > *Columbia Basin College* > > > > *Assistive Technology Center* > > > > *Program Support Supervisor II* > > > > > > > > Phone: (509) 542-4428 > > > > On-Campus Ext.: 2428 > > > > Location: T422 > > Mail Stop: MS-T6 > > > > > > > > Hours: > > > > 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs > > > > 7:00 am- Noon; Friday > > > > > > > > *California State University, Northridge * > > > > Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. > > > > -Hannah Gadsby > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] > *On > > Behalf Of *Robert Spangler > > *Sent:* Monday, August 27, 2018 10:51 AM > > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > > > > > > How do you extract notes from the pen to PDF? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:08 AM Place, Vicki > > wrote: > > > > We also do similar. We loan the book and pen and at the end of the > > quarter, if they want their notes, we extract them to a PDF and send them > > to the student through Canvas. We never let them use Echo desktop. > There > > can be too may issues and we do not want to have to troubleshoot for > them. > > It is a simple and effective process. > > > > > > > > ============================= > > > > *Vicki Place* > > > > > > > > *Columbia Basin College* > > > > *Assistive Technology Center* > > > > *Program Support Supervisor II* > > > > > > > > Phone: (509) 542-4428 > > > > On-Campus Ext.: 2428 > > > > Location: T422 > > Mail Stop: MS-T6 > > > > > > > > Hours: > > > > 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs > > > > 7:00 am- Noon; Friday > > > > > > > > *California State University, Northridge * > > > > Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. > > > > -Hannah Gadsby > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] > *On > > Behalf Of *Leyna Bencomo > > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:13 PM > > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > > > > > > I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. > > Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend > > out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. > They > > use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to > > the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request > it, > > I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I > erase > > the pens every semester and we move on. > > > > > > > > If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but > > for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that > > benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual > > notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject > physical > > notebook and find that sufficient. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Leyna Bencomo > > > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > > > Office of Information Technology > > > > *University of Colorado Colorado Springs* > > > > 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 > > > > Colorado Springs, CO 80918 > > > > (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu > > > > http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ > > > > [image: sig logo small] > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > > Behalf Of *Hegney, Shaun > > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM > > *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > > > > > > Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with > > reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset > / > > update the firmware. > > > > > > > > *Shaun Hegney* > > > > *Program Specialist 2* > > > > Disability Support Services > > > > Spokane Falls Community College > > > > (509)-533-3544 > > > > Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > > Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon > > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM > > *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > > *Subject:* [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update > her > > pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. > She > > just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her > > problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, > > but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions or advise? > > > > > > > > As always, thanks! > > > > > > > > Bryon > > > > > > > > *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* > > > > *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* > > > > *Disability Resource Center* > > > > *Adjunct Professor* > > > > *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* > > > > [image: Power C] > > > > *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* > > 103 Frist Hall > > 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 > > > > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > > > > > > > (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc > > http%3A%2F%2Fwww.utc.edu%2Fdean-students&data=02%7C01% > 7Clbencomo%40uccs.edu%7C7ea5b18b306344dde3c908d60a06464c% > 7C529343fae8c8419fab2ea70c10038810%7C1%7C0%7C636707419404490803&sdata= > Hv7x2l3rPpe5PGvGmi2rZJvRgU%2FMFCXFupKqQv0m2zo%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > > *A member of the **Division of Student Development* > > http%3A%2F%2Fwww.utc.edu%2Fstudent-development&data=02% > 7C01%7Clbencomo%40uccs.edu%7C7ea5b18b306344dde3c908d60a06464c% > 7C529343fae8c8419fab2ea70c10038810%7C1%7C0%7C636707419404500820&sdata= > DvzK3u4GiwDotwGGOcvCiMnfGnbZGoWhz3x0hCGy5L4%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > athen-list mailing list > > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Robert Spangler > > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > > rspangler1@udayton.edu > > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of > hearing) > > > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > _______________________________________________ > > athen-list mailing list > > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: 20180827/39aa7f4c/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 13:24:52 +0000 > From: "Spade, Maria" > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > Message-ID: > namprd08.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello all. For anyone who was looking into myscript, they are no longer > offering it (see message below from their rep). If anyone knows of another > add-on that will transfer handwriting to text please let me know. > > Since the beginning of 2018, we don't support anymore the application > plug-in MyScript for Livescribe. > > Our focus is on Nebo and Calculator 2 development and we have a lot of > projects for our user community. To support this investment, we decided to > remove the previous app generation > https://myscript.com/retired-apps/ > > We announced this to Livescribe middle of 2017 and if you see on their > website there is no mention to our plug-in (they took the different > activities to don't offer this plug-in). > > Sorry for this, we will no plan to offer any other replacement or new > plug-in for this digital pen. > > Thanks for your understanding. > > Best regards, > MyScript Apps > https://twitter.com/MyScriptApps > > Thank you, > > Maria Spade > > Adaptive Technology Specialist > Pronouns: She, her, hers > > Stockton University > Learning Access Program, J-204 > 101 Vera King Farris Drive > Galloway, NJ 08205 > 609.652.4988 > > > > From: athen-list On > Behalf Of Wink Harner > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 3:50 PM > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > *** External email alert *** > Yes. It's called MyScript. Here's a link: https://www.myscript.com/ > > > Wink Harner > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > The Foreign Type > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:41 AM Robert Spangler mailto:rspangler1@udayton.edu>> wrote: > Is this an add-on to the Smart Pen Echo Desktop software? > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:00 PM Wink Harner foreigntype@gmail.com>> wrote: > Robert et al, > > There is an add-on program for handwriting recognition for the LS & Echo > pens that converts the handwritten notes transferred to a desktop or laptop > computer to text files. Or the handwritten notes can be transferred to a > computer and just saved as-is to pdfs in handwritten format. > > Does that help? > Wink Harner > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > The Foreign Type > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:52 AM Robert Spangler mailto:rspangler1@udayton.edu>> wrote: > How do you extract notes from the pen to PDF? > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:08 AM Place, Vicki mailto:vplace@columbiabasin.edu>> wrote: > We also do similar. We loan the book and pen and at the end of the > quarter, if they want their notes, we extract them to a PDF and send them > to the student through Canvas. We never let them use Echo desktop. There > can be too may issues and we do not want to have to troubleshoot for them. > It is a simple and effective process. > > ============================= > Vicki Place > > Columbia Basin College > Assistive Technology Center > Program Support Supervisor II > > Phone: (509) 542-4428 > On-Campus Ext.: 2428 > Location: T422 > Mail Stop: MS-T6 > > Hours: > 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs > 7:00 am- Noon; Friday > > California State University, Northridge > Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. > -Hannah Gadsby > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu< > mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>] On Behalf Of Leyna > Bencomo > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:13 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens. > Too many issues. It?s been awhile since I have tried. Currently, I lend > out pens every semester. Students use them to take notes and record. They > use the paper notebook and the pen to listen. We don?t use the upload to > the computer for anything. At the end of the semester, if they request it, > I will copy the pen to an audio pdf for them and give it to them. I erase > the pens every semester and we move on. > > If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but > for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking. They get that > benefit using the notebook and pen without Echo desktop. The virtual > notebooks are nice but most of my students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical > notebook and find that sufficient. > > Regards, > > Leyna Bencomo > Assistive Technology Specialist > Office of Information Technology > University of Colorado Colorado Springs > 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 > Colorado Springs, CO 80918 > (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu > http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ > > From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Hegney, Shaun > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM > To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with > reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a pen and then reset / > update the firmware. > > Shaun Hegney > Program Specialist 2 > Disability Support Services > Spokane Falls Community College > (509)-533-3544 > Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu > > > From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Kluesner, > Bryon > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM > To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > Hi all, > > I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her > pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She > just registered the pen yesterday and the Echo desktop is giving her > problems. I was able to archive and share her nots from my Echo desktop, > but her Echo desktop will not recognize the pen. > > Any suggestions or advise? > > As always, thanks! > > Bryon > > Bryon Kluesner, RhD > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > Adjunct Professor > College of Health, Education & Professional Studies > > > The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > 103 Frist Hall > 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.utc.edu%2Fdean-students&data=02% > 7C01%7Clbencomo%40uccs.edu%7C7ea5b18b306344dde3c908d60a06464c% > 7C529343fae8c8419fab2ea70c10038810%7C1%7C0%7C636707419404490803&sdata= > Hv7x2l3rPpe5PGvGmi2rZJvRgU%2FMFCXFupKqQv0m2zo%3D&reserved=0> > > > > A member of the Division of Student Development safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.utc. > edu%2Fstudent-development&data=02%7C01%7Clbencomo%40uccs.edu% > 7C7ea5b18b306344dde3c908d60a06464c%7C529343fae8c8419fab2ea70c1003 > 8810%7C1%7C0%7C636707419404500820&sdata=DvzK3u4GiwDotwGGOcvCiMnfGnbZGo > Whz3x0hCGy5L4%3D&reserved=0> > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu list@mailman12.u.washington.edu> > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu list@mailman12.u.washington.edu> > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu list@mailman12.u.washington.edu> > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu list@mailman12.u.washington.edu> > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: 20180828/57ec1009/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 13:35:13 +0000 > From: "Kluesner, Bryon" > To: "'athen-list@u.washington.edu'" > Subject: [Athen] Portfolium > Message-ID: > namprd10.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, > > Is anyone familiar with Portfolium and its accessibility? I maneuvered > around their website (Portfolium.com) with JAWS and did not have any issues > with links and the site. I am looking for anyone else's direct interaction > with the site. > > Thanks, > > Bryon > > Bryon Kluesner, RhD > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > Adjunct Professor > College of Health, Education & Professional Studies > > [Power C] > > The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > 103 Frist Hall > 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc > > > > A member of the Division of Student Development edu/student-development> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: 20180828/41a9e12b/attachment-0001.html> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image001.png > Type: image/png > Size: 7792 bytes > Desc: image001.png > URL: 20180828/41a9e12b/attachment-0001.png> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 09:27:36 -0700 > From: foreigntype > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > Message-ID: <5b857795.1c69fb81.6d11.4812@mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks for that info, Maria.? I was unaware MyScript had been > discontinued.? > Wink > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > -------- Original message --------From: "Spade, Maria" < > Maria.Spade@stockton.edu> Date: 8/28/18 6:24 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Access > Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > Hello all. For anyone who was looking into myscript, they are no longer > offering it (see message below from their rep). If anyone knows of another > add-on that will > transfer handwriting to text please let me know. > ? > Since the beginning of 2018, we don't support anymore the application > plug-in MyScript for Livescribe. > > > > Our focus is on Nebo and Calculator 2 development and we have a lot of > projects for our user community. To support this investment, we decided to > remove the previous app generation? > > https://myscript.com/retired-apps/ > > > > We announced this to Livescribe middle of 2017 and if you see on their > website there is no mention to our plug-in (they took the different > activities to don't offer this plug-in). > > > > Sorry for this, we will no plan to offer any other replacement or new > plug-in for this digital pen. > > > > Thanks for your understanding. > > > > Best regards, > > MyScript Apps > > https://twitter.com/MyScriptApps > ? > Thank you, > ? > Maria Spade > ? > Adaptive Technology Specialist > Pronouns: She, her, hers > ? > Stockton University > Learning Access Program, J-204 > > 101 Vera King Farris Drive > Galloway, NJ 08205 > 609.652.4988 > ? > ? > ? > > > From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Wink Harner > > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 3:50 PM > > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > ? > > *** External email alert *** > > > > > Yes. It's called MyScript. Here's a link: > https://www.myscript.com/ > > > ? > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Wink Harner > > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > > The Foreign Type > > > Portland OR > > foreigntype@gmail.com > > 480-984-0034 > > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > > > > ? > > > ? > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:41 AM Robert Spangler > wrote: > > > > Is this an add-on to the Smart Pen Echo Desktop software? > > > ? > > > ? > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:00 PM Wink Harner wrote: > > > > > Robert et al, > > > ? > > > There is an add-on program for handwriting recognition for the LS & Echo > pens that converts the handwritten notes transferred to a desktop or laptop > computer to text files. Or the handwritten notes can be transferred to a > computer and just > saved as-is to pdfs in handwritten format. > > > ? > > > Does that help? > > > > > > > > > > > > Wink Harner > > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > > The Foreign Type > > > Portland OR > > foreigntype@gmail.com > > 480-984-0034 > > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > > > > ? > > > ? > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:52 AM Robert Spangler > wrote: > > > > How do you extract notes from the pen to PDF? > > ? > > > ? > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:08 AM Place, Vicki > wrote: > > > > > We also do similar.? We loan the book and pen and at the end of the > quarter, if they want their notes, > we extract them to a PDF and send them to the student through Canvas.? We > never let them use Echo desktop.? There can be too may issues and we do not > want to have to troubleshoot for them.? It is a simple and effective > process. > ? > > ============================= > Vicki Place > ? > Columbia Basin College > Assistive Technology Center > Program Support Supervisor II > ? > Phone: (509) 542-4428 > > On-Campus Ext.: 2428 > Location:??T422 > > > Mail Stop: MS-T6 > ? > Hours:? > > 7:00 am ? 4:30 pm; Mon-Thurs > 7:00 am- Noon; Friday > ? > California State University, Northridge? > > Assistive Technology Applications Certificate Program (ATACP) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > There is nothing stronger than a broken woman who has rebuilt herself. > -Hannah Gadsby > > ? > > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] > On Behalf Of Leyna Bencomo > > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:13 PM > > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > ? > I gave up on getting Echo desktop for students on my loaned smart pens.? > Too many issues.? It?s been awhile since I have tried.? Currently, I lend > out pens every semester.? Students > use them to take notes and record.? They use the paper notebook and the > pen to listen.? We don?t use the upload to the computer for anything.? At > the end of the semester, if they request it, I will copy the pen to an > audio pdf for them and give it to them.? > I erase the pens every semester and we move on. ?? > ? > If a student buys their own personal pen, that is a different story but > for loaners, the accommodation is to help with notetaking.? They get that > benefit using the notebook and > pen without Echo desktop.? The virtual notebooks are nice but most of my > students buy the $8.25 3-subject physical notebook and find that > sufficient.? > > ? > Regards, > ? > > Leyna Bencomo > Assistive Technology Specialist > Office of Information Technology > University of Colorado Colorado Springs > 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 > Colorado Springs, CO 80918 > (719) 255-4202 / > lbencomo@uccs.edu > http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ > > > ? > > > From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Hegney, Shaun > > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:05 PM > > To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > ? > Hmm I?ve had similar issues in the past I?ve had some luck with > reinstalling echo desktop. I?ve also had to back up a > pen and then reset / update ?the firmware. > ? > > Shaun Hegney > Program Specialist 2 > Disability Support Services > > Spokane Falls Community College > > (509)-533-3544 > Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu > ? > > ? > > > From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon > > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:59 PM > > To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > > Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe smart pen issues > > > ? > Hi all, > ? > I am having difficulties with live scribe not letting a student update her > pen. She gets an error message that her existing account is not valid. She > just registered the pen yesterday > and the Echo desktop is giving her problems. I was able to archive and > share her nots from my Echo desktop, but her Echo desktop will not > recognize the pen. > ? > Any suggestions or advise? > ? > As always, thanks! > ? > Bryon > ? > > > > > Bryon Kluesner, RhD > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > Adjunct Professor > College of Health, Education & Professional Studies > > > > > > > > > > > > The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga? > > 103 Frist Hall? > > 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > ? > (423) 425-4006 | > utc.edu/drc > > > > > > > > > > > > A member of the Division > of Student Development > ? > > > _______________________________________________ > > athen-list mailing list > > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > > > ? > > -- > > > > > > > > > Robert Spangler > > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > > rspangler1@udayton.edu > > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > > University of Dayton ?| 300 College Park ?| ?Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > > Web Site: > http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > athen-list mailing list > > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > _______________________________________________ > > athen-list mailing list > > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > > > ? > > -- > > > > > > > > > Robert Spangler > > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > > rspangler1@udayton.edu > > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > > University of Dayton ?| 300 College Park ?| ?Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > > Web Site: > http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > athen-list mailing list > > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: 20180828/da88b16a/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 13:07:07 -0400 > From: Corrine Schoeb > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: [Athen] Thank you for Audio Description help > Message-ID: > GX_g@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Quick note to thank everyone who responded to my questions about foreign > language (in this case Spanish) audio descriptions. > > I got some really helpful responses and resources and decided to add them > the to a Trello Board (https://trello.com/b/XikLZ8j1/accessibility- > resources). > Am fairly new to Trello but think you should all have access to this. > > Thanks again for all the help. > > -- > > Corrine Schoeb > Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS > 610-957-6208 > > *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including > by email. 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URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Wed Aug 29 06:41:04 2018 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Wed Aug 29 06:41:35 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Andrea, this is basically what we do with Bookshare files. Most of my sighted students have no interest in learning to navigate a bookshare file, so we convert to word, add in page numbers and heading levels (because those do not exist or are poorly done in most bookshare files) and then convert word to PDF, or just give the student the word files. Isn?t it amazing the hoops we jump through for your students? This is also why I am so angry about publishers finding yet another few hoops we have to jump through to get what our students need. Why are they making things more difficult? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I use a free program called Calibre (also available in a ?portable? version in case you don?t have the ability to install software on your computers yourself). It?s designed as a general ebook management program, but it has really good conversion capabilities. The only issues I?ve had with epub to PDF are that sometimes the conversion will divide pages in odd places, and that there are usually no original page numbers to correspond to the hard copy of the book. Depending on your time constraints, you might want to convert the epub to .docx, add page breaks manually in Word, and then convert that file to PDF so that you can ?recreate? the original publisher layout for the book, but obviously that?s more time-consuming. Good luck! -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Wed Aug 29 06:46:55 2018 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Wed Aug 29 06:47:16 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Same here. For most of them, navigating a PDF is new to them, as surprising as that might be. Not all young people are tech enthusiasts, as is commonly believed, so I am trying to put the least amount of stress on them as possible. On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 9:44 AM Susan Kelmer wrote: > Andrea, this is basically what we do with Bookshare files. Most of my > sighted students have no interest in learning to navigate a bookshare file, > so we convert to word, add in page numbers and heading levels (because > those do not exist or are poorly done in most bookshare files) and then > convert word to PDF, or just give the student the word files. > > > > Isn?t it amazing the hoops we jump through for your students? This is > also why I am so angry about publishers finding yet another few hoops we > have to jump through to get what our students need. Why are they making > things more difficult? > > > > *Susan Kelmer* > > *Alternate Format Production Program Manager* > > *Disability Services* > > *University of Colorado Boulder* > > *303-735-4836* > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Andrea L. Dietrich > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:03 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF > > > > I use a free program called Calibre (also available in a ?portable? > version in case you don?t have the ability to install software on your > computers yourself). It?s designed as a general ebook management program, > but it has really good conversion capabilities. The only issues I?ve had > with epub to PDF are that sometimes the conversion will divide pages in odd > places, and that there are usually no original page numbers to correspond > to the hard copy of the book. > > > > Depending on your time constraints, you might want to convert the epub to > .docx, add page breaks manually in Word, and then convert that file to PDF > so that you can ?recreate? the original publisher layout for the book, but > obviously that?s more time-consuming. > > > > Good luck! > > > > -Andi :) > > > > -------------------------- > > Andrea Dietrich > > Cornell University > > Student Disability Services > > Cornell Health, Level 5 > > 110 Ho Plaza > > Ithaca, NY 14853 > > http://sds.cornell.edu > > > > Tel. 607.254.4545 > > Fax. 607.255.1562 > > > > Office Hours: > > Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM > > Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Robert Spangler > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:54 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF > > > > Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I > go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless > otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is > the only option available from them. > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kerscher at montana.com Wed Aug 29 07:52:33 2018 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Wed Aug 29 07:53:11 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003201d43fa7$eed39900$cc7acb00$@montana.com> Dear Susan, First, Bookshare is now making Word files available. There is a wide range of formats available from Bookshare. Better to just download the format you are looking for rather than going through the torture of converting these materials yourself. Also, Bookshare is making EPUB available, which provides a rich reading experience for everybody, including persons with disabilities. Probably more importantly, publishers are creating Born Accessible EPUB that are fully accessible. This eliminates the need to get a format that is different from what everybody else is reading. If there is anything I can do to helpg DSO folks provide the materials their students need, feel free to call upon me. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:41 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Andrea, this is basically what we do with Bookshare files. Most of my sighted students have no interest in learning to navigate a bookshare file, so we convert to word, add in page numbers and heading levels (because those do not exist or are poorly done in most bookshare files) and then convert word to PDF, or just give the student the word files. Isn?t it amazing the hoops we jump through for your students? This is also why I am so angry about publishers finding yet another few hoops we have to jump through to get what our students need. Why are they making things more difficult? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I use a free program called Calibre (also available in a ?portable? version in case you don?t have the ability to install software on your computers yourself). It?s designed as a general ebook management program, but it has really good conversion capabilities. The only issues I?ve had with epub to PDF are that sometimes the conversion will divide pages in odd places, and that there are usually no original page numbers to correspond to the hard copy of the book. Depending on your time constraints, you might want to convert the epub to .docx, add page breaks manually in Word, and then convert that file to PDF so that you can ?recreate? the original publisher layout for the book, but obviously that?s more time-consuming. Good luck! -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kerscher at montana.com Wed Aug 29 07:52:33 2018 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Wed Aug 29 07:53:14 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003701d43fa7$eefa5ae0$ccef10a0$@montana.com> Hello, At the recent AHEAD conference, there was a booth comparing the reading experience between PDF and EPUB. By far, the people saw the advantages of the modern EPUB format. In the W3C, the standards setting body, EPUB is being developed as the best mechanism for digital publishing. There is also the EPUB Accessibility Conformance and Discovery specification, which is being widely adopted. There is also the Accessibility Checker for EPUB (Ace by DAISY), which helps the publishers ensure their publications are fully accessible. The current recommendation is WCAG AA for materials in education. We also recommend that the publishers provide detailed descriptions of graphical content that conveys meaningful information to students. There will be a track on digital publishing at the upcoming AHG conference. Plus I will encourage the ATN and others to post short educational articles to help folks here and elsewhere learn about the many advantages of EPUB. For now, Here are two links to information about Reading Apps used for reading EPUB, because of course, not only must the content be accessible, but the Reading App used to read it must be accessible. We have been testing with a wide range of Assistive Technology. Here is the list of reading Apps at a high level: https://inclusivepublishing.org/blog/june-2018-epub-reading-apps-accessibility-support/ and here is the formal testing results of many, many apps. http://epubtest.org/testsuite/accessibility/ If I can be of any help, even helping a student identify a Reading App and AT combination, I would be happy to help. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Wed Aug 29 08:01:02 2018 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Wed Aug 29 08:01:33 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: <003701d43fa7$eefa5ae0$ccef10a0$@montana.com> References: <003701d43fa7$eefa5ae0$ccef10a0$@montana.com> Message-ID: I appreciate your perspective, George. I am resistant to ePubs as part of classroom curriculum at the college level because I still see issues with the navigation of ePubs (aka, lack of page numbering!). My students are completely full of ?nope? about it, as it means they need to use something other than they are already using to read their files. I get that ? they are busy and have enough of a struggle just getting through their coursework without having to learn Yet Another Way of accessing materials that they?ve accessed successfully before using a single method. I will say that Macmillan includes page numbering in their ePubs. This is a HUGE plus for them, and a huge shift for me. But I?m not giving out ePubs from anyone else at this point. They are not up to par with what the student is expecting, nor what they need. I?m interested to see how this plays out at AHG this year. I WILL be paying attention. I was paying attention last year (I?m looking at YOU, Pearson!) and was wholly unimpressed and not willing to make that shift yet for my students. Also, I?m remembering how we were all told ?DAISY will be the new standard? and in the end, it wasn?t. Will ePub be the ?new standard?? That remains to be seen? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, At the recent AHEAD conference, there was a booth comparing the reading experience between PDF and EPUB. By far, the people saw the advantages of the modern EPUB format. In the W3C, the standards setting body, EPUB is being developed as the best mechanism for digital publishing. There is also the EPUB Accessibility Conformance and Discovery specification, which is being widely adopted. There is also the Accessibility Checker for EPUB (Ace by DAISY), which helps the publishers ensure their publications are fully accessible. The current recommendation is WCAG AA for materials in education. We also recommend that the publishers provide detailed descriptions of graphical content that conveys meaningful information to students. There will be a track on digital publishing at the upcoming AHG conference. Plus I will encourage the ATN and others to post short educational articles to help folks here and elsewhere learn about the many advantages of EPUB. For now, Here are two links to information about Reading Apps used for reading EPUB, because of course, not only must the content be accessible, but the Reading App used to read it must be accessible. We have been testing with a wide range of Assistive Technology. Here is the list of reading Apps at a high level: https://inclusivepublishing.org/blog/june-2018-epub-reading-apps-accessibility-support/ and here is the formal testing results of many, many apps. http://epubtest.org/testsuite/accessibility/ If I can be of any help, even helping a student identify a Reading App and AT combination, I would be happy to help. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Wed Aug 29 08:03:13 2018 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Wed Aug 29 08:03:55 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: <003201d43fa7$eed39900$cc7acb00$@montana.com> References: <003201d43fa7$eed39900$cc7acb00$@montana.com> Message-ID: George, this is too simplified. Not every Bookshare book comes with a Word version. Not every Bookshare book comes with an ePub version. Most bookshare files I receive are atrociously edited ? lack of or misplaced page numbering, no heading levels identified or headings not even there, missing sections like indexes and working table of contents, etc. Bookshare may be making strides, but they are definitely not there yet. We edit CAREFULLY for our students because we want them to have what they need. 99% of the time, Bookshare is not it. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Dear Susan, First, Bookshare is now making Word files available. There is a wide range of formats available from Bookshare. Better to just download the format you are looking for rather than going through the torture of converting these materials yourself. Also, Bookshare is making EPUB available, which provides a rich reading experience for everybody, including persons with disabilities. Probably more importantly, publishers are creating Born Accessible EPUB that are fully accessible. This eliminates the need to get a format that is different from what everybody else is reading. If there is anything I can do to helpg DSO folks provide the materials their students need, feel free to call upon me. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:41 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Andrea, this is basically what we do with Bookshare files. Most of my sighted students have no interest in learning to navigate a bookshare file, so we convert to word, add in page numbers and heading levels (because those do not exist or are poorly done in most bookshare files) and then convert word to PDF, or just give the student the word files. Isn?t it amazing the hoops we jump through for your students? This is also why I am so angry about publishers finding yet another few hoops we have to jump through to get what our students need. Why are they making things more difficult? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I use a free program called Calibre (also available in a ?portable? version in case you don?t have the ability to install software on your computers yourself). It?s designed as a general ebook management program, but it has really good conversion capabilities. The only issues I?ve had with epub to PDF are that sometimes the conversion will divide pages in odd places, and that there are usually no original page numbers to correspond to the hard copy of the book. Depending on your time constraints, you might want to convert the epub to .docx, add page breaks manually in Word, and then convert that file to PDF so that you can ?recreate? the original publisher layout for the book, but obviously that?s more time-consuming. Good luck! -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Shannon.Lavey at colostate.edu Wed Aug 29 08:19:41 2018 From: Shannon.Lavey at colostate.edu (Lavey,Shannon) Date: Wed Aug 29 08:20:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible graphing calculator recommendations Message-ID: <6F8D8FAB-0722-4873-B56F-B74A02A977EC@colostate.edu> Hello ATHEN friends, Do you all have recommendations for an accessible graphing calculator that has similar functions to a TI 83 or TI 84, whether is a calculator, iPad app, or software program (ideally for Mac)? Thanks for the help! Shannon ---------------------------------------------------- Shannon Lavey, MS, OTR/L Student Service Coordinator and Provider Assistive Technology Resource Center 301 Occupational Therapy Building Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523-1573 970-491-4241 shannon.lavey@colostate.edu www.atrc.colostate.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adietrich at cornell.edu Wed Aug 29 08:27:29 2018 From: adietrich at cornell.edu (Andrea L. Dietrich) Date: Wed Aug 29 08:27:49 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: <003201d43fa7$eed39900$cc7acb00$@montana.com> Message-ID: My understanding is that Bookshare books DO all come available as Word documents, at this point. That said, they aren?t always useable, and do usually need at least some formatting unless the student is using them directly through Bookshare. Usually the biggest problem I?ve run into is when a particular Bookshare book was originally uploaded without graphics, since many of the students I work with need the images as well as the text. But in a LOT of cases, especially with newer books with ?Publisher Quality? copies that include all the graphics, or for books that didn?t have pictures to begin with (many works of literature, for example,) Bookshare is a great solution. I would say it?s useful FAR more than 1% of the time, for us. -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF George, this is too simplified. Not every Bookshare book comes with a Word version. Not every Bookshare book comes with an ePub version. Most bookshare files I receive are atrociously edited ? lack of or misplaced page numbering, no heading levels identified or headings not even there, missing sections like indexes and working table of contents, etc. Bookshare may be making strides, but they are definitely not there yet. We edit CAREFULLY for our students because we want them to have what they need. 99% of the time, Bookshare is not it. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Dear Susan, First, Bookshare is now making Word files available. There is a wide range of formats available from Bookshare. Better to just download the format you are looking for rather than going through the torture of converting these materials yourself. Also, Bookshare is making EPUB available, which provides a rich reading experience for everybody, including persons with disabilities. Probably more importantly, publishers are creating Born Accessible EPUB that are fully accessible. This eliminates the need to get a format that is different from what everybody else is reading. If there is anything I can do to helpg DSO folks provide the materials their students need, feel free to call upon me. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:41 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Andrea, this is basically what we do with Bookshare files. Most of my sighted students have no interest in learning to navigate a bookshare file, so we convert to word, add in page numbers and heading levels (because those do not exist or are poorly done in most bookshare files) and then convert word to PDF, or just give the student the word files. Isn?t it amazing the hoops we jump through for your students? This is also why I am so angry about publishers finding yet another few hoops we have to jump through to get what our students need. Why are they making things more difficult? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I use a free program called Calibre (also available in a ?portable? version in case you don?t have the ability to install software on your computers yourself). It?s designed as a general ebook management program, but it has really good conversion capabilities. The only issues I?ve had with epub to PDF are that sometimes the conversion will divide pages in odd places, and that there are usually no original page numbers to correspond to the hard copy of the book. Depending on your time constraints, you might want to convert the epub to .docx, add page breaks manually in Word, and then convert that file to PDF so that you can ?recreate? the original publisher layout for the book, but obviously that?s more time-consuming. Good luck! -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adietrich at cornell.edu Wed Aug 29 08:33:21 2018 From: adietrich at cornell.edu (Andrea L. Dietrich) Date: Wed Aug 29 08:33:49 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: <003201d43fa7$eed39900$cc7acb00$@montana.com> Message-ID: As far as EPUB files go, personally I HATE PDFs and I would love to see a new format become standard. I like the new EPUBs for many reasons, but they need two main things before I could provide them to my students. First, they would have to have original hard-copy page numbers in a form that could be read by a screen-reader user. Second, they would need to either be already split up by chapter, or I would need a tool to easily split them up, because as is many of the EPUB files I?ve received from publishers are too large to be used in CaptiVoice, which is the program we are currently recommending to our students. -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:27 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF My understanding is that Bookshare books DO all come available as Word documents, at this point. That said, they aren?t always useable, and do usually need at least some formatting unless the student is using them directly through Bookshare. Usually the biggest problem I?ve run into is when a particular Bookshare book was originally uploaded without graphics, since many of the students I work with need the images as well as the text. But in a LOT of cases, especially with newer books with ?Publisher Quality? copies that include all the graphics, or for books that didn?t have pictures to begin with (many works of literature, for example,) Bookshare is a great solution. I would say it?s useful FAR more than 1% of the time, for us. -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF George, this is too simplified. Not every Bookshare book comes with a Word version. Not every Bookshare book comes with an ePub version. Most bookshare files I receive are atrociously edited ? lack of or misplaced page numbering, no heading levels identified or headings not even there, missing sections like indexes and working table of contents, etc. Bookshare may be making strides, but they are definitely not there yet. We edit CAREFULLY for our students because we want them to have what they need. 99% of the time, Bookshare is not it. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Dear Susan, First, Bookshare is now making Word files available. There is a wide range of formats available from Bookshare. Better to just download the format you are looking for rather than going through the torture of converting these materials yourself. Also, Bookshare is making EPUB available, which provides a rich reading experience for everybody, including persons with disabilities. Probably more importantly, publishers are creating Born Accessible EPUB that are fully accessible. This eliminates the need to get a format that is different from what everybody else is reading. If there is anything I can do to helpg DSO folks provide the materials their students need, feel free to call upon me. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:41 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Andrea, this is basically what we do with Bookshare files. Most of my sighted students have no interest in learning to navigate a bookshare file, so we convert to word, add in page numbers and heading levels (because those do not exist or are poorly done in most bookshare files) and then convert word to PDF, or just give the student the word files. Isn?t it amazing the hoops we jump through for your students? This is also why I am so angry about publishers finding yet another few hoops we have to jump through to get what our students need. Why are they making things more difficult? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I use a free program called Calibre (also available in a ?portable? version in case you don?t have the ability to install software on your computers yourself). It?s designed as a general ebook management program, but it has really good conversion capabilities. The only issues I?ve had with epub to PDF are that sometimes the conversion will divide pages in odd places, and that there are usually no original page numbers to correspond to the hard copy of the book. Depending on your time constraints, you might want to convert the epub to .docx, add page breaks manually in Word, and then convert that file to PDF so that you can ?recreate? the original publisher layout for the book, but obviously that?s more time-consuming. Good luck! -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Wed Aug 29 08:47:25 2018 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Wed Aug 29 08:47:38 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: <003201d43fa7$eed39900$cc7acb00$@montana.com> Message-ID: Andi, I should have been more clear. I download a LOT of Bookshare files. But not very often are the ?ready to go? for the student. They need work. Lots of work. I can take a hard-copy PDF and convert to Word with page number and page breaks and headings intact and graphics, much more quickly than I can repair a Bookshare xml file to include all those things, and I also usually have to find a hard copy of the book so I know what it?s SUPPOSED to look like and where the page numbers are SUPPOSED to be. Give me a PDF any day ? conversion to Word is pretty much a breeze with those, with a whole lot less editing. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:27 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF My understanding is that Bookshare books DO all come available as Word documents, at this point. That said, they aren?t always useable, and do usually need at least some formatting unless the student is using them directly through Bookshare. Usually the biggest problem I?ve run into is when a particular Bookshare book was originally uploaded without graphics, since many of the students I work with need the images as well as the text. But in a LOT of cases, especially with newer books with ?Publisher Quality? copies that include all the graphics, or for books that didn?t have pictures to begin with (many works of literature, for example,) Bookshare is a great solution. I would say it?s useful FAR more than 1% of the time, for us. -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF George, this is too simplified. Not every Bookshare book comes with a Word version. Not every Bookshare book comes with an ePub version. Most bookshare files I receive are atrociously edited ? lack of or misplaced page numbering, no heading levels identified or headings not even there, missing sections like indexes and working table of contents, etc. Bookshare may be making strides, but they are definitely not there yet. We edit CAREFULLY for our students because we want them to have what they need. 99% of the time, Bookshare is not it. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Dear Susan, First, Bookshare is now making Word files available. There is a wide range of formats available from Bookshare. Better to just download the format you are looking for rather than going through the torture of converting these materials yourself. Also, Bookshare is making EPUB available, which provides a rich reading experience for everybody, including persons with disabilities. Probably more importantly, publishers are creating Born Accessible EPUB that are fully accessible. This eliminates the need to get a format that is different from what everybody else is reading. If there is anything I can do to helpg DSO folks provide the materials their students need, feel free to call upon me. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:41 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Andrea, this is basically what we do with Bookshare files. Most of my sighted students have no interest in learning to navigate a bookshare file, so we convert to word, add in page numbers and heading levels (because those do not exist or are poorly done in most bookshare files) and then convert word to PDF, or just give the student the word files. Isn?t it amazing the hoops we jump through for your students? This is also why I am so angry about publishers finding yet another few hoops we have to jump through to get what our students need. Why are they making things more difficult? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I use a free program called Calibre (also available in a ?portable? version in case you don?t have the ability to install software on your computers yourself). It?s designed as a general ebook management program, but it has really good conversion capabilities. The only issues I?ve had with epub to PDF are that sometimes the conversion will divide pages in odd places, and that there are usually no original page numbers to correspond to the hard copy of the book. Depending on your time constraints, you might want to convert the epub to .docx, add page breaks manually in Word, and then convert that file to PDF so that you can ?recreate? the original publisher layout for the book, but obviously that?s more time-consuming. Good luck! -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adietrich at cornell.edu Wed Aug 29 08:56:17 2018 From: adietrich at cornell.edu (Andrea L. Dietrich) Date: Wed Aug 29 08:56:50 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: <003201d43fa7$eed39900$cc7acb00$@montana.com> Message-ID: Yeah, fair enough! I?ve found that the new Word documents that you can get from Bookshare convert pretty easily, but I agree that PDF to Word is often more straightforward. One tip for the Bookshare files, BTW?page numbers are usually formatted as ?Page break before? in the paragraph settings, so you can do a Word find-and-replace, and replace anything formatted as ?Page break before? with a page break character (^m) and get the page breaks added that way. -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:47 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Andi, I should have been more clear. I download a LOT of Bookshare files. But not very often are the ?ready to go? for the student. They need work. Lots of work. I can take a hard-copy PDF and convert to Word with page number and page breaks and headings intact and graphics, much more quickly than I can repair a Bookshare xml file to include all those things, and I also usually have to find a hard copy of the book so I know what it?s SUPPOSED to look like and where the page numbers are SUPPOSED to be. Give me a PDF any day ? conversion to Word is pretty much a breeze with those, with a whole lot less editing. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:27 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF My understanding is that Bookshare books DO all come available as Word documents, at this point. That said, they aren?t always useable, and do usually need at least some formatting unless the student is using them directly through Bookshare. Usually the biggest problem I?ve run into is when a particular Bookshare book was originally uploaded without graphics, since many of the students I work with need the images as well as the text. But in a LOT of cases, especially with newer books with ?Publisher Quality? copies that include all the graphics, or for books that didn?t have pictures to begin with (many works of literature, for example,) Bookshare is a great solution. I would say it?s useful FAR more than 1% of the time, for us. -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF George, this is too simplified. Not every Bookshare book comes with a Word version. Not every Bookshare book comes with an ePub version. Most bookshare files I receive are atrociously edited ? lack of or misplaced page numbering, no heading levels identified or headings not even there, missing sections like indexes and working table of contents, etc. Bookshare may be making strides, but they are definitely not there yet. We edit CAREFULLY for our students because we want them to have what they need. 99% of the time, Bookshare is not it. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Dear Susan, First, Bookshare is now making Word files available. There is a wide range of formats available from Bookshare. Better to just download the format you are looking for rather than going through the torture of converting these materials yourself. Also, Bookshare is making EPUB available, which provides a rich reading experience for everybody, including persons with disabilities. Probably more importantly, publishers are creating Born Accessible EPUB that are fully accessible. This eliminates the need to get a format that is different from what everybody else is reading. If there is anything I can do to helpg DSO folks provide the materials their students need, feel free to call upon me. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:41 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Andrea, this is basically what we do with Bookshare files. Most of my sighted students have no interest in learning to navigate a bookshare file, so we convert to word, add in page numbers and heading levels (because those do not exist or are poorly done in most bookshare files) and then convert word to PDF, or just give the student the word files. Isn?t it amazing the hoops we jump through for your students? This is also why I am so angry about publishers finding yet another few hoops we have to jump through to get what our students need. Why are they making things more difficult? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I use a free program called Calibre (also available in a ?portable? version in case you don?t have the ability to install software on your computers yourself). It?s designed as a general ebook management program, but it has really good conversion capabilities. The only issues I?ve had with epub to PDF are that sometimes the conversion will divide pages in odd places, and that there are usually no original page numbers to correspond to the hard copy of the book. Depending on your time constraints, you might want to convert the epub to .docx, add page breaks manually in Word, and then convert that file to PDF so that you can ?recreate? the original publisher layout for the book, but obviously that?s more time-consuming. Good luck! -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 09:11:33 2018 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Wed Aug 29 09:12:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Accessible graphing calculator recommendations In-Reply-To: <6F8D8FAB-0722-4873-B56F-B74A02A977EC@colostate.edu> References: <6F8D8FAB-0722-4873-B56F-B74A02A977EC@colostate.edu> Message-ID: The Orion TI 84 is great. It is just a TI 84 calculator with a text to speech control module attached to it. I?ve had students that use them and it works well because they can receive the same instruction for use of a calculator as the other students in the class. You can purchase it through American printing House for the blind. Jeff Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. > On Aug 29, 2018, at 11:19 AM, Lavey,Shannon wrote: > > Hello ATHEN friends, > > Do you all have recommendations for an accessible graphing calculator that has similar functions to a TI 83 or TI 84, whether is a calculator, iPad app, or software program (ideally for Mac)? > > Thanks for the help! > > Shannon > ---------------------------------------------------- > Shannon Lavey, MS, OTR/L > Student Service Coordinator and Provider > > Assistive Technology Resource Center > 301 Occupational Therapy Building > Colorado State University > Fort Collins, CO 80523-1573 > 970-491-4241 > shannon.lavey@colostate.edu > www.atrc.colostate.edu > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k.weberhottleman at uconn.edu Wed Aug 29 09:25:26 2018 From: k.weberhottleman at uconn.edu (Weber-Hottleman, Kathryn) Date: Wed Aug 29 09:25:47 2018 Subject: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 151, Issue 23 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello everyone, Does anyone know of an accessible alternative to MatLab? I've been looking into it and have found it's not particularly accessible. Thanks, Kathryn From kerscher at montana.com Wed Aug 29 09:31:45 2018 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Wed Aug 29 09:31:54 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: <003201d43fa7$eed39900$cc7acb00$@montana.com> Message-ID: <000901d43fb5$c7324d20$5596e760$@montana.com> This is why we want born accessible EPUB from publishers. Oh, and I 1000% agree that the page number navigation needs to be there when there is a print equilivant version of the title. We have to demand this from publishers. Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF George, this is too simplified. Not every Bookshare book comes with a Word version. Not every Bookshare book comes with an ePub version. Most bookshare files I receive are atrociously edited ? lack of or misplaced page numbering, no heading levels identified or headings not even there, missing sections like indexes and working table of contents, etc. Bookshare may be making strides, but they are definitely not there yet. We edit CAREFULLY for our students because we want them to have what they need. 99% of the time, Bookshare is not it. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Dear Susan, First, Bookshare is now making Word files available. There is a wide range of formats available from Bookshare. Better to just download the format you are looking for rather than going through the torture of converting these materials yourself. Also, Bookshare is making EPUB available, which provides a rich reading experience for everybody, including persons with disabilities. Probably more importantly, publishers are creating Born Accessible EPUB that are fully accessible. This eliminates the need to get a format that is different from what everybody else is reading. If there is anything I can do to helpg DSO folks provide the materials their students need, feel free to call upon me. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:41 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Andrea, this is basically what we do with Bookshare files. Most of my sighted students have no interest in learning to navigate a bookshare file, so we convert to word, add in page numbers and heading levels (because those do not exist or are poorly done in most bookshare files) and then convert word to PDF, or just give the student the word files. Isn?t it amazing the hoops we jump through for your students? This is also why I am so angry about publishers finding yet another few hoops we have to jump through to get what our students need. Why are they making things more difficult? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I use a free program called Calibre (also available in a ?portable? version in case you don?t have the ability to install software on your computers yourself). It?s designed as a general ebook management program, but it has really good conversion capabilities. The only issues I?ve had with epub to PDF are that sometimes the conversion will divide pages in odd places, and that there are usually no original page numbers to correspond to the hard copy of the book. Depending on your time constraints, you might want to convert the epub to .docx, add page breaks manually in Word, and then convert that file to PDF so that you can ?recreate? the original publisher layout for the book, but obviously that?s more time-consuming. Good luck! -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kerscher at montana.com Wed Aug 29 09:31:45 2018 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Wed Aug 29 09:31:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: <003201d43fa7$eed39900$cc7acb00$@montana.com> Message-ID: <000001d43fb5$c705bee0$55113ca0$@montana.com> Hi, OK, I have taken an action item to contact our friends at CaptiVoice, to have them deal with larger file sizes. Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:33 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF As far as EPUB files go, personally I HATE PDFs and I would love to see a new format become standard. I like the new EPUBs for many reasons, but they need two main things before I could provide them to my students. First, they would have to have original hard-copy page numbers in a form that could be read by a screen-reader user. Second, they would need to either be already split up by chapter, or I would need a tool to easily split them up, because as is many of the EPUB files I?ve received from publishers are too large to be used in CaptiVoice, which is the program we are currently recommending to our students. -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:27 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF My understanding is that Bookshare books DO all come available as Word documents, at this point. That said, they aren?t always useable, and do usually need at least some formatting unless the student is using them directly through Bookshare. Usually the biggest problem I?ve run into is when a particular Bookshare book was originally uploaded without graphics, since many of the students I work with need the images as well as the text. But in a LOT of cases, especially with newer books with ?Publisher Quality? copies that include all the graphics, or for books that didn?t have pictures to begin with (many works of literature, for example,) Bookshare is a great solution. I would say it?s useful FAR more than 1% of the time, for us. -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF George, this is too simplified. Not every Bookshare book comes with a Word version. Not every Bookshare book comes with an ePub version. Most bookshare files I receive are atrociously edited ? lack of or misplaced page numbering, no heading levels identified or headings not even there, missing sections like indexes and working table of contents, etc. Bookshare may be making strides, but they are definitely not there yet. We edit CAREFULLY for our students because we want them to have what they need. 99% of the time, Bookshare is not it. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Dear Susan, First, Bookshare is now making Word files available. There is a wide range of formats available from Bookshare. Better to just download the format you are looking for rather than going through the torture of converting these materials yourself. Also, Bookshare is making EPUB available, which provides a rich reading experience for everybody, including persons with disabilities. Probably more importantly, publishers are creating Born Accessible EPUB that are fully accessible. This eliminates the need to get a format that is different from what everybody else is reading. If there is anything I can do to helpg DSO folks provide the materials their students need, feel free to call upon me. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:41 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Andrea, this is basically what we do with Bookshare files. Most of my sighted students have no interest in learning to navigate a bookshare file, so we convert to word, add in page numbers and heading levels (because those do not exist or are poorly done in most bookshare files) and then convert word to PDF, or just give the student the word files. Isn?t it amazing the hoops we jump through for your students? This is also why I am so angry about publishers finding yet another few hoops we have to jump through to get what our students need. Why are they making things more difficult? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I use a free program called Calibre (also available in a ?portable? version in case you don?t have the ability to install software on your computers yourself). It?s designed as a general ebook management program, but it has really good conversion capabilities. The only issues I?ve had with epub to PDF are that sometimes the conversion will divide pages in odd places, and that there are usually no original page numbers to correspond to the hard copy of the book. Depending on your time constraints, you might want to convert the epub to .docx, add page breaks manually in Word, and then convert that file to PDF so that you can ?recreate? the original publisher layout for the book, but obviously that?s more time-consuming. Good luck! -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kerscher at montana.com Wed Aug 29 11:43:31 2018 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Wed Aug 29 11:43:58 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: <003701d43fa7$eefa5ae0$ccef10a0$@montana.com> Message-ID: <004c01d43fc8$2f3e2d00$8dba8700$@montana.com> Hi Susan, Glad to see that you are open minded, and I hope we can find some time at AHG. It is true that students will need to learn how to use an EPUB reader of some kind, and it is not as simple as we would like. The choice depends on if the school has agreements with venders like VitalSource, RedShelf or others for the supply of materials. Fortunately these organizations are committed to accessibility. VitalSource can import unprotected EPUB, which is good news. I do believe that the digital publishing standards will continue to evolve, and we want them to be accessible out of the box. This is the way to get us out of this nightmare of modifying materials, tagging PDF, which you know all too well. Now, how do we get the professors to produce EPUB instead of PDF? Just imagine not having to tag all those PDF, grin! Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:01 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I appreciate your perspective, George. I am resistant to ePubs as part of classroom curriculum at the college level because I still see issues with the navigation of ePubs (aka, lack of page numbering!). My students are completely full of ?nope? about it, as it means they need to use something other than they are already using to read their files. I get that ? they are busy and have enough of a struggle just getting through their coursework without having to learn Yet Another Way of accessing materials that they?ve accessed successfully before using a single method. I will say that Macmillan includes page numbering in their ePubs. This is a HUGE plus for them, and a huge shift for me. But I?m not giving out ePubs from anyone else at this point. They are not up to par with what the student is expecting, nor what they need. I?m interested to see how this plays out at AHG this year. I WILL be paying attention. I was paying attention last year (I?m looking at YOU, Pearson!) and was wholly unimpressed and not willing to make that shift yet for my students. Also, I?m remembering how we were all told ?DAISY will be the new standard? and in the end, it wasn?t. Will ePub be the ?new standard?? That remains to be seen? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, At the recent AHEAD conference, there was a booth comparing the reading experience between PDF and EPUB. By far, the people saw the advantages of the modern EPUB format. In the W3C, the standards setting body, EPUB is being developed as the best mechanism for digital publishing. There is also the EPUB Accessibility Conformance and Discovery specification, which is being widely adopted. There is also the Accessibility Checker for EPUB (Ace by DAISY), which helps the publishers ensure their publications are fully accessible. The current recommendation is WCAG AA for materials in education. We also recommend that the publishers provide detailed descriptions of graphical content that conveys meaningful information to students. There will be a track on digital publishing at the upcoming AHG conference. Plus I will encourage the ATN and others to post short educational articles to help folks here and elsewhere learn about the many advantages of EPUB. For now, Here are two links to information about Reading Apps used for reading EPUB, because of course, not only must the content be accessible, but the Reading App used to read it must be accessible. We have been testing with a wide range of Assistive Technology. Here is the list of reading Apps at a high level: https://inclusivepublishing.org/blog/june-2018-epub-reading-apps-accessibility-support/ and here is the formal testing results of many, many apps. http://epubtest.org/testsuite/accessibility/ If I can be of any help, even helping a student identify a Reading App and AT combination, I would be happy to help. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Wed Aug 29 11:54:51 2018 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Wed Aug 29 11:56:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: <004c01d43fc8$2f3e2d00$8dba8700$@montana.com> References: <003701d43fa7$eefa5ae0$ccef10a0$@montana.com> <004c01d43fc8$2f3e2d00$8dba8700$@montana.com> Message-ID: The thing is, we are giving our students a way to access their materials using ONE portal, ONE software ? Kurzweil. But no, publishers insist we need VitalSource for this one thing, and RedShelf for another thing, and oh, here?s an ePub but the student needs Adobe Digital Editions to access that one! We don?t tag PDFs. We turn PDFs into well-formatted Word files ? just about the ultimate in accessibility. I do not remediate PDFs from publishers, other than to crop or rename or to break into chapters. If it needs more than that, I am not wasting weeks on remediation; I?m spend 2-4 hours turning it into Word. Easy-peasy, guaranteed accessible content. Just because a publisher makes something ?accessible? on their platform or portal does not mean this works for our students, or any students. I am going to resist at all points any publisher?s assumption or decision that they know what our students need and that accessing YET ANOTHER PORTAL is okay. It is not okay. Period. I have students who need to read 800 pages a week. We don?t need to make it more complicated. We need to make it simpler. Publishers are going to have to prove to me that their new methods are ?better,? ?less time consuming,? and ?fully accessible? ? because what I?ve seen so far doesn?t even come close. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:44 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hi Susan, Glad to see that you are open minded, and I hope we can find some time at AHG. It is true that students will need to learn how to use an EPUB reader of some kind, and it is not as simple as we would like. The choice depends on if the school has agreements with venders like VitalSource, RedShelf or others for the supply of materials. Fortunately these organizations are committed to accessibility. VitalSource can import unprotected EPUB, which is good news. I do believe that the digital publishing standards will continue to evolve, and we want them to be accessible out of the box. This is the way to get us out of this nightmare of modifying materials, tagging PDF, which you know all too well. Now, how do we get the professors to produce EPUB instead of PDF? Just imagine not having to tag all those PDF, grin! Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:01 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I appreciate your perspective, George. I am resistant to ePubs as part of classroom curriculum at the college level because I still see issues with the navigation of ePubs (aka, lack of page numbering!). My students are completely full of ?nope? about it, as it means they need to use something other than they are already using to read their files. I get that ? they are busy and have enough of a struggle just getting through their coursework without having to learn Yet Another Way of accessing materials that they?ve accessed successfully before using a single method. I will say that Macmillan includes page numbering in their ePubs. This is a HUGE plus for them, and a huge shift for me. But I?m not giving out ePubs from anyone else at this point. They are not up to par with what the student is expecting, nor what they need. I?m interested to see how this plays out at AHG this year. I WILL be paying attention. I was paying attention last year (I?m looking at YOU, Pearson!) and was wholly unimpressed and not willing to make that shift yet for my students. Also, I?m remembering how we were all told ?DAISY will be the new standard? and in the end, it wasn?t. Will ePub be the ?new standard?? That remains to be seen? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, At the recent AHEAD conference, there was a booth comparing the reading experience between PDF and EPUB. By far, the people saw the advantages of the modern EPUB format. In the W3C, the standards setting body, EPUB is being developed as the best mechanism for digital publishing. There is also the EPUB Accessibility Conformance and Discovery specification, which is being widely adopted. There is also the Accessibility Checker for EPUB (Ace by DAISY), which helps the publishers ensure their publications are fully accessible. The current recommendation is WCAG AA for materials in education. We also recommend that the publishers provide detailed descriptions of graphical content that conveys meaningful information to students. There will be a track on digital publishing at the upcoming AHG conference. Plus I will encourage the ATN and others to post short educational articles to help folks here and elsewhere learn about the many advantages of EPUB. For now, Here are two links to information about Reading Apps used for reading EPUB, because of course, not only must the content be accessible, but the Reading App used to read it must be accessible. We have been testing with a wide range of Assistive Technology. Here is the list of reading Apps at a high level: https://inclusivepublishing.org/blog/june-2018-epub-reading-apps-accessibility-support/ and here is the formal testing results of many, many apps. http://epubtest.org/testsuite/accessibility/ If I can be of any help, even helping a student identify a Reading App and AT combination, I would be happy to help. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kerscher at montana.com Wed Aug 29 13:31:46 2018 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Wed Aug 29 13:32:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: <003701d43fa7$eefa5ae0$ccef10a0$@montana.com> <004c01d43fc8$2f3e2d00$8dba8700$@montana.com> Message-ID: <008b01d43fd7$4eb17c00$ec147400$@montana.com> Hi, Trying to be helpful here, grin. First Digital editions is nothing I would recommend, and I don?t think publishers would either. If it is being recommended on your campus, you need to fix that. Both Redshelf and VitalSource with the web view, i.e. you read online, work with the Kurzweil products. I would suggest that your screen reader users may do better with simply using their screen reader and one of the commercial readers, and Redshelf and VitalSource is doing well. Next release of Windows 10 the fall edition will have upgrades to the EPUB reading experience in Edge. There are a couple of annoying bugs for screen reader users in Edge right now or I would recommend it. For students with learning disabilities and dyslexic, the learning tools are terrific right now. Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF The thing is, we are giving our students a way to access their materials using ONE portal, ONE software ? Kurzweil. But no, publishers insist we need VitalSource for this one thing, and RedShelf for another thing, and oh, here?s an ePub but the student needs Adobe Digital Editions to access that one! We don?t tag PDFs. We turn PDFs into well-formatted Word files ? just about the ultimate in accessibility. I do not remediate PDFs from publishers, other than to crop or rename or to break into chapters. If it needs more than that, I am not wasting weeks on remediation; I?m spend 2-4 hours turning it into Word. Easy-peasy, guaranteed accessible content. Just because a publisher makes something ?accessible? on their platform or portal does not mean this works for our students, or any students. I am going to resist at all points any publisher?s assumption or decision that they know what our students need and that accessing YET ANOTHER PORTAL is okay. It is not okay. Period. I have students who need to read 800 pages a week. We don?t need to make it more complicated. We need to make it simpler. Publishers are going to have to prove to me that their new methods are ?better,? ?less time consuming,? and ?fully accessible? ? because what I?ve seen so far doesn?t even come close. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:44 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hi Susan, Glad to see that you are open minded, and I hope we can find some time at AHG. It is true that students will need to learn how to use an EPUB reader of some kind, and it is not as simple as we would like. The choice depends on if the school has agreements with venders like VitalSource, RedShelf or others for the supply of materials. Fortunately these organizations are committed to accessibility. VitalSource can import unprotected EPUB, which is good news. I do believe that the digital publishing standards will continue to evolve, and we want them to be accessible out of the box. This is the way to get us out of this nightmare of modifying materials, tagging PDF, which you know all too well. Now, how do we get the professors to produce EPUB instead of PDF? Just imagine not having to tag all those PDF, grin! Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:01 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I appreciate your perspective, George. I am resistant to ePubs as part of classroom curriculum at the college level because I still see issues with the navigation of ePubs (aka, lack of page numbering!). My students are completely full of ?nope? about it, as it means they need to use something other than they are already using to read their files. I get that ? they are busy and have enough of a struggle just getting through their coursework without having to learn Yet Another Way of accessing materials that they?ve accessed successfully before using a single method. I will say that Macmillan includes page numbering in their ePubs. This is a HUGE plus for them, and a huge shift for me. But I?m not giving out ePubs from anyone else at this point. They are not up to par with what the student is expecting, nor what they need. I?m interested to see how this plays out at AHG this year. I WILL be paying attention. I was paying attention last year (I?m looking at YOU, Pearson!) and was wholly unimpressed and not willing to make that shift yet for my students. Also, I?m remembering how we were all told ?DAISY will be the new standard? and in the end, it wasn?t. Will ePub be the ?new standard?? That remains to be seen? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, At the recent AHEAD conference, there was a booth comparing the reading experience between PDF and EPUB. By far, the people saw the advantages of the modern EPUB format. In the W3C, the standards setting body, EPUB is being developed as the best mechanism for digital publishing. There is also the EPUB Accessibility Conformance and Discovery specification, which is being widely adopted. There is also the Accessibility Checker for EPUB (Ace by DAISY), which helps the publishers ensure their publications are fully accessible. The current recommendation is WCAG AA for materials in education. We also recommend that the publishers provide detailed descriptions of graphical content that conveys meaningful information to students. There will be a track on digital publishing at the upcoming AHG conference. Plus I will encourage the ATN and others to post short educational articles to help folks here and elsewhere learn about the many advantages of EPUB. For now, Here are two links to information about Reading Apps used for reading EPUB, because of course, not only must the content be accessible, but the Reading App used to read it must be accessible. We have been testing with a wide range of Assistive Technology. Here is the list of reading Apps at a high level: https://inclusivepublishing.org/blog/june-2018-epub-reading-apps-accessibility-support/ and here is the formal testing results of many, many apps. http://epubtest.org/testsuite/accessibility/ If I can be of any help, even helping a student identify a Reading App and AT combination, I would be happy to help. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Wed Aug 29 13:40:22 2018 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Wed Aug 29 13:40:31 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: <008b01d43fd7$4eb17c00$ec147400$@montana.com> References: <003701d43fa7$eefa5ae0$ccef10a0$@montana.com> <004c01d43fc8$2f3e2d00$8dba8700$@montana.com> <008b01d43fd7$4eb17c00$ec147400$@montana.com> Message-ID: Several of the ePubs I?m getting from publishers require Adobe Digital Editions to be opened. The latest example is an ePub from Princeton. So, how do we get around that? Again?a publisher determining what format our students should be using to access their materials. I?m tired of the runaround, I?m tired of wasting time trying to find a workaround. Just give me the PDFs. I never have trouble with those. I really don?t. I want one straight path. Not a thousand. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:32 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hi, Trying to be helpful here, grin. First Digital editions is nothing I would recommend, and I don?t think publishers would either. If it is being recommended on your campus, you need to fix that. Both Redshelf and VitalSource with the web view, i.e. you read online, work with the Kurzweil products. I would suggest that your screen reader users may do better with simply using their screen reader and one of the commercial readers, and Redshelf and VitalSource is doing well. Next release of Windows 10 the fall edition will have upgrades to the EPUB reading experience in Edge. There are a couple of annoying bugs for screen reader users in Edge right now or I would recommend it. For students with learning disabilities and dyslexic, the learning tools are terrific right now. Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF The thing is, we are giving our students a way to access their materials using ONE portal, ONE software ? Kurzweil. But no, publishers insist we need VitalSource for this one thing, and RedShelf for another thing, and oh, here?s an ePub but the student needs Adobe Digital Editions to access that one! We don?t tag PDFs. We turn PDFs into well-formatted Word files ? just about the ultimate in accessibility. I do not remediate PDFs from publishers, other than to crop or rename or to break into chapters. If it needs more than that, I am not wasting weeks on remediation; I?m spend 2-4 hours turning it into Word. Easy-peasy, guaranteed accessible content. Just because a publisher makes something ?accessible? on their platform or portal does not mean this works for our students, or any students. I am going to resist at all points any publisher?s assumption or decision that they know what our students need and that accessing YET ANOTHER PORTAL is okay. It is not okay. Period. I have students who need to read 800 pages a week. We don?t need to make it more complicated. We need to make it simpler. Publishers are going to have to prove to me that their new methods are ?better,? ?less time consuming,? and ?fully accessible? ? because what I?ve seen so far doesn?t even come close. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:44 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hi Susan, Glad to see that you are open minded, and I hope we can find some time at AHG. It is true that students will need to learn how to use an EPUB reader of some kind, and it is not as simple as we would like. The choice depends on if the school has agreements with venders like VitalSource, RedShelf or others for the supply of materials. Fortunately these organizations are committed to accessibility. VitalSource can import unprotected EPUB, which is good news. I do believe that the digital publishing standards will continue to evolve, and we want them to be accessible out of the box. This is the way to get us out of this nightmare of modifying materials, tagging PDF, which you know all too well. Now, how do we get the professors to produce EPUB instead of PDF? Just imagine not having to tag all those PDF, grin! Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:01 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I appreciate your perspective, George. I am resistant to ePubs as part of classroom curriculum at the college level because I still see issues with the navigation of ePubs (aka, lack of page numbering!). My students are completely full of ?nope? about it, as it means they need to use something other than they are already using to read their files. I get that ? they are busy and have enough of a struggle just getting through their coursework without having to learn Yet Another Way of accessing materials that they?ve accessed successfully before using a single method. I will say that Macmillan includes page numbering in their ePubs. This is a HUGE plus for them, and a huge shift for me. But I?m not giving out ePubs from anyone else at this point. They are not up to par with what the student is expecting, nor what they need. I?m interested to see how this plays out at AHG this year. I WILL be paying attention. I was paying attention last year (I?m looking at YOU, Pearson!) and was wholly unimpressed and not willing to make that shift yet for my students. Also, I?m remembering how we were all told ?DAISY will be the new standard? and in the end, it wasn?t. Will ePub be the ?new standard?? That remains to be seen? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, At the recent AHEAD conference, there was a booth comparing the reading experience between PDF and EPUB. By far, the people saw the advantages of the modern EPUB format. In the W3C, the standards setting body, EPUB is being developed as the best mechanism for digital publishing. There is also the EPUB Accessibility Conformance and Discovery specification, which is being widely adopted. There is also the Accessibility Checker for EPUB (Ace by DAISY), which helps the publishers ensure their publications are fully accessible. The current recommendation is WCAG AA for materials in education. We also recommend that the publishers provide detailed descriptions of graphical content that conveys meaningful information to students. There will be a track on digital publishing at the upcoming AHG conference. Plus I will encourage the ATN and others to post short educational articles to help folks here and elsewhere learn about the many advantages of EPUB. For now, Here are two links to information about Reading Apps used for reading EPUB, because of course, not only must the content be accessible, but the Reading App used to read it must be accessible. We have been testing with a wide range of Assistive Technology. Here is the list of reading Apps at a high level: https://inclusivepublishing.org/blog/june-2018-epub-reading-apps-accessibility-support/ and here is the formal testing results of many, many apps. http://epubtest.org/testsuite/accessibility/ If I can be of any help, even helping a student identify a Reading App and AT combination, I would be happy to help. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kerscher at montana.com Wed Aug 29 13:54:34 2018 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Wed Aug 29 13:55:05 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: <003701d43fa7$eefa5ae0$ccef10a0$@montana.com> <004c01d43fc8$2f3e2d00$8dba8700$@montana.com> <008b01d43fd7$4eb17c00$ec147400$@montana.com> Message-ID: <00a201d43fda$81a01740$84e045c0$@montana.com> Interesting. I have never heard of that. So, could you rename the .epub to .zip and unzip it? If it shows the XHTML files as garbage, please give me the name of your contact at Princeton and I will try to straighten them out. Is this title not available in RedShelf or VitalSource? Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:40 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Several of the ePubs I?m getting from publishers require Adobe Digital Editions to be opened. The latest example is an ePub from Princeton. So, how do we get around that? Again?a publisher determining what format our students should be using to access their materials. I?m tired of the runaround, I?m tired of wasting time trying to find a workaround. Just give me the PDFs. I never have trouble with those. I really don?t. I want one straight path. Not a thousand. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:32 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hi, Trying to be helpful here, grin. First Digital editions is nothing I would recommend, and I don?t think publishers would either. If it is being recommended on your campus, you need to fix that. Both Redshelf and VitalSource with the web view, i.e. you read online, work with the Kurzweil products. I would suggest that your screen reader users may do better with simply using their screen reader and one of the commercial readers, and Redshelf and VitalSource is doing well. Next release of Windows 10 the fall edition will have upgrades to the EPUB reading experience in Edge. There are a couple of annoying bugs for screen reader users in Edge right now or I would recommend it. For students with learning disabilities and dyslexic, the learning tools are terrific right now. Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF The thing is, we are giving our students a way to access their materials using ONE portal, ONE software ? Kurzweil. But no, publishers insist we need VitalSource for this one thing, and RedShelf for another thing, and oh, here?s an ePub but the student needs Adobe Digital Editions to access that one! We don?t tag PDFs. We turn PDFs into well-formatted Word files ? just about the ultimate in accessibility. I do not remediate PDFs from publishers, other than to crop or rename or to break into chapters. If it needs more than that, I am not wasting weeks on remediation; I?m spend 2-4 hours turning it into Word. Easy-peasy, guaranteed accessible content. Just because a publisher makes something ?accessible? on their platform or portal does not mean this works for our students, or any students. I am going to resist at all points any publisher?s assumption or decision that they know what our students need and that accessing YET ANOTHER PORTAL is okay. It is not okay. Period. I have students who need to read 800 pages a week. We don?t need to make it more complicated. We need to make it simpler. Publishers are going to have to prove to me that their new methods are ?better,? ?less time consuming,? and ?fully accessible? ? because what I?ve seen so far doesn?t even come close. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:44 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hi Susan, Glad to see that you are open minded, and I hope we can find some time at AHG. It is true that students will need to learn how to use an EPUB reader of some kind, and it is not as simple as we would like. The choice depends on if the school has agreements with venders like VitalSource, RedShelf or others for the supply of materials. Fortunately these organizations are committed to accessibility. VitalSource can import unprotected EPUB, which is good news. I do believe that the digital publishing standards will continue to evolve, and we want them to be accessible out of the box. This is the way to get us out of this nightmare of modifying materials, tagging PDF, which you know all too well. Now, how do we get the professors to produce EPUB instead of PDF? Just imagine not having to tag all those PDF, grin! Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:01 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I appreciate your perspective, George. I am resistant to ePubs as part of classroom curriculum at the college level because I still see issues with the navigation of ePubs (aka, lack of page numbering!). My students are completely full of ?nope? about it, as it means they need to use something other than they are already using to read their files. I get that ? they are busy and have enough of a struggle just getting through their coursework without having to learn Yet Another Way of accessing materials that they?ve accessed successfully before using a single method. I will say that Macmillan includes page numbering in their ePubs. This is a HUGE plus for them, and a huge shift for me. But I?m not giving out ePubs from anyone else at this point. They are not up to par with what the student is expecting, nor what they need. I?m interested to see how this plays out at AHG this year. I WILL be paying attention. I was paying attention last year (I?m looking at YOU, Pearson!) and was wholly unimpressed and not willing to make that shift yet for my students. Also, I?m remembering how we were all told ?DAISY will be the new standard? and in the end, it wasn?t. Will ePub be the ?new standard?? That remains to be seen? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, At the recent AHEAD conference, there was a booth comparing the reading experience between PDF and EPUB. By far, the people saw the advantages of the modern EPUB format. In the W3C, the standards setting body, EPUB is being developed as the best mechanism for digital publishing. There is also the EPUB Accessibility Conformance and Discovery specification, which is being widely adopted. There is also the Accessibility Checker for EPUB (Ace by DAISY), which helps the publishers ensure their publications are fully accessible. The current recommendation is WCAG AA for materials in education. We also recommend that the publishers provide detailed descriptions of graphical content that conveys meaningful information to students. There will be a track on digital publishing at the upcoming AHG conference. Plus I will encourage the ATN and others to post short educational articles to help folks here and elsewhere learn about the many advantages of EPUB. For now, Here are two links to information about Reading Apps used for reading EPUB, because of course, not only must the content be accessible, but the Reading App used to read it must be accessible. We have been testing with a wide range of Assistive Technology. Here is the list of reading Apps at a high level: https://inclusivepublishing.org/blog/june-2018-epub-reading-apps-accessibility-support/ and here is the formal testing results of many, many apps. http://epubtest.org/testsuite/accessibility/ If I can be of any help, even helping a student identify a Reading App and AT combination, I would be happy to help. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Wed Aug 29 14:00:53 2018 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Wed Aug 29 14:01:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: <00a201d43fda$81a01740$84e045c0$@montana.com> References: <003701d43fa7$eefa5ae0$ccef10a0$@montana.com> <004c01d43fc8$2f3e2d00$8dba8700$@montana.com> <008b01d43fd7$4eb17c00$ec147400$@montana.com> <00a201d43fda$81a01740$84e045c0$@montana.com> Message-ID: We can download Princeton?s ePubs through our library system (I imagine our campus is giving them some funding for this). They HAVE to be opened with ADE. I can get a Bookshare file of most of their stuff too, but they are messy and need lots of work. I have no access to titles on VitalSource, and as far as I know, Redshelf either. And yet again, let me say it, this is just yet one more way I need to go find a book for a student, and yet one more time I have to do an end run and fix the file before I can give it to the student to use with their technology. I feel like no one is really listening to us, the providers, and what we are requesting. Why is this? Why is it so hard to just give us what we ask for, when we know they have the materials in that format to begin with? This isn?t rocket science, you know? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:55 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Interesting. I have never heard of that. So, could you rename the .epub to .zip and unzip it? If it shows the XHTML files as garbage, please give me the name of your contact at Princeton and I will try to straighten them out. Is this title not available in RedShelf or VitalSource? Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:40 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Several of the ePubs I?m getting from publishers require Adobe Digital Editions to be opened. The latest example is an ePub from Princeton. So, how do we get around that? Again?a publisher determining what format our students should be using to access their materials. I?m tired of the runaround, I?m tired of wasting time trying to find a workaround. Just give me the PDFs. I never have trouble with those. I really don?t. I want one straight path. Not a thousand. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:32 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hi, Trying to be helpful here, grin. First Digital editions is nothing I would recommend, and I don?t think publishers would either. If it is being recommended on your campus, you need to fix that. Both Redshelf and VitalSource with the web view, i.e. you read online, work with the Kurzweil products. I would suggest that your screen reader users may do better with simply using their screen reader and one of the commercial readers, and Redshelf and VitalSource is doing well. Next release of Windows 10 the fall edition will have upgrades to the EPUB reading experience in Edge. There are a couple of annoying bugs for screen reader users in Edge right now or I would recommend it. For students with learning disabilities and dyslexic, the learning tools are terrific right now. Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF The thing is, we are giving our students a way to access their materials using ONE portal, ONE software ? Kurzweil. But no, publishers insist we need VitalSource for this one thing, and RedShelf for another thing, and oh, here?s an ePub but the student needs Adobe Digital Editions to access that one! We don?t tag PDFs. We turn PDFs into well-formatted Word files ? just about the ultimate in accessibility. I do not remediate PDFs from publishers, other than to crop or rename or to break into chapters. If it needs more than that, I am not wasting weeks on remediation; I?m spend 2-4 hours turning it into Word. Easy-peasy, guaranteed accessible content. Just because a publisher makes something ?accessible? on their platform or portal does not mean this works for our students, or any students. I am going to resist at all points any publisher?s assumption or decision that they know what our students need and that accessing YET ANOTHER PORTAL is okay. It is not okay. Period. I have students who need to read 800 pages a week. We don?t need to make it more complicated. We need to make it simpler. Publishers are going to have to prove to me that their new methods are ?better,? ?less time consuming,? and ?fully accessible? ? because what I?ve seen so far doesn?t even come close. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:44 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hi Susan, Glad to see that you are open minded, and I hope we can find some time at AHG. It is true that students will need to learn how to use an EPUB reader of some kind, and it is not as simple as we would like. The choice depends on if the school has agreements with venders like VitalSource, RedShelf or others for the supply of materials. Fortunately these organizations are committed to accessibility. VitalSource can import unprotected EPUB, which is good news. I do believe that the digital publishing standards will continue to evolve, and we want them to be accessible out of the box. This is the way to get us out of this nightmare of modifying materials, tagging PDF, which you know all too well. Now, how do we get the professors to produce EPUB instead of PDF? Just imagine not having to tag all those PDF, grin! Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:01 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I appreciate your perspective, George. I am resistant to ePubs as part of classroom curriculum at the college level because I still see issues with the navigation of ePubs (aka, lack of page numbering!). My students are completely full of ?nope? about it, as it means they need to use something other than they are already using to read their files. I get that ? they are busy and have enough of a struggle just getting through their coursework without having to learn Yet Another Way of accessing materials that they?ve accessed successfully before using a single method. I will say that Macmillan includes page numbering in their ePubs. This is a HUGE plus for them, and a huge shift for me. But I?m not giving out ePubs from anyone else at this point. They are not up to par with what the student is expecting, nor what they need. I?m interested to see how this plays out at AHG this year. I WILL be paying attention. I was paying attention last year (I?m looking at YOU, Pearson!) and was wholly unimpressed and not willing to make that shift yet for my students. Also, I?m remembering how we were all told ?DAISY will be the new standard? and in the end, it wasn?t. Will ePub be the ?new standard?? That remains to be seen? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, At the recent AHEAD conference, there was a booth comparing the reading experience between PDF and EPUB. By far, the people saw the advantages of the modern EPUB format. In the W3C, the standards setting body, EPUB is being developed as the best mechanism for digital publishing. There is also the EPUB Accessibility Conformance and Discovery specification, which is being widely adopted. There is also the Accessibility Checker for EPUB (Ace by DAISY), which helps the publishers ensure their publications are fully accessible. The current recommendation is WCAG AA for materials in education. We also recommend that the publishers provide detailed descriptions of graphical content that conveys meaningful information to students. There will be a track on digital publishing at the upcoming AHG conference. Plus I will encourage the ATN and others to post short educational articles to help folks here and elsewhere learn about the many advantages of EPUB. For now, Here are two links to information about Reading Apps used for reading EPUB, because of course, not only must the content be accessible, but the Reading App used to read it must be accessible. We have been testing with a wide range of Assistive Technology. Here is the list of reading Apps at a high level: https://inclusivepublishing.org/blog/june-2018-epub-reading-apps-accessibility-support/ and here is the formal testing results of many, many apps. http://epubtest.org/testsuite/accessibility/ If I can be of any help, even helping a student identify a Reading App and AT combination, I would be happy to help. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kerscher at montana.com Wed Aug 29 15:16:47 2018 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Wed Aug 29 15:17:22 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: <003701d43fa7$eefa5ae0$ccef10a0$@montana.com> <004c01d43fc8$2f3e2d00$8dba8700$@montana.com> <008b01d43fd7$4eb17c00$ec147400$@montana.com> <00a201d43fda$81a01740$84e045c0$@montana.com> Message-ID: <00b301d43fe5$fa436b10$eeca4130$@montana.com> IMO, ADE is not sutable for use with AT. Our tests show it is unstable. If I can help to get them to change this requirement, I am hapy to talk to the Library department and or the Princeton publishing group. We need to work together to resolves these roadblocks. Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 3:01 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF We can download Princeton?s ePubs through our library system (I imagine our campus is giving them some funding for this). They HAVE to be opened with ADE. I can get a Bookshare file of most of their stuff too, but they are messy and need lots of work. I have no access to titles on VitalSource, and as far as I know, Redshelf either. And yet again, let me say it, this is just yet one more way I need to go find a book for a student, and yet one more time I have to do an end run and fix the file before I can give it to the student to use with their technology. I feel like no one is really listening to us, the providers, and what we are requesting. Why is this? Why is it so hard to just give us what we ask for, when we know they have the materials in that format to begin with? This isn?t rocket science, you know? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:55 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Interesting. I have never heard of that. So, could you rename the .epub to .zip and unzip it? If it shows the XHTML files as garbage, please give me the name of your contact at Princeton and I will try to straighten them out. Is this title not available in RedShelf or VitalSource? Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:40 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Several of the ePubs I?m getting from publishers require Adobe Digital Editions to be opened. The latest example is an ePub from Princeton. So, how do we get around that? Again?a publisher determining what format our students should be using to access their materials. I?m tired of the runaround, I?m tired of wasting time trying to find a workaround. Just give me the PDFs. I never have trouble with those. I really don?t. I want one straight path. Not a thousand. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:32 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hi, Trying to be helpful here, grin. First Digital editions is nothing I would recommend, and I don?t think publishers would either. If it is being recommended on your campus, you need to fix that. Both Redshelf and VitalSource with the web view, i.e. you read online, work with the Kurzweil products. I would suggest that your screen reader users may do better with simply using their screen reader and one of the commercial readers, and Redshelf and VitalSource is doing well. Next release of Windows 10 the fall edition will have upgrades to the EPUB reading experience in Edge. There are a couple of annoying bugs for screen reader users in Edge right now or I would recommend it. For students with learning disabilities and dyslexic, the learning tools are terrific right now. Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF The thing is, we are giving our students a way to access their materials using ONE portal, ONE software ? Kurzweil. But no, publishers insist we need VitalSource for this one thing, and RedShelf for another thing, and oh, here?s an ePub but the student needs Adobe Digital Editions to access that one! We don?t tag PDFs. We turn PDFs into well-formatted Word files ? just about the ultimate in accessibility. I do not remediate PDFs from publishers, other than to crop or rename or to break into chapters. If it needs more than that, I am not wasting weeks on remediation; I?m spend 2-4 hours turning it into Word. Easy-peasy, guaranteed accessible content. Just because a publisher makes something ?accessible? on their platform or portal does not mean this works for our students, or any students. I am going to resist at all points any publisher?s assumption or decision that they know what our students need and that accessing YET ANOTHER PORTAL is okay. It is not okay. Period. I have students who need to read 800 pages a week. We don?t need to make it more complicated. We need to make it simpler. Publishers are going to have to prove to me that their new methods are ?better,? ?less time consuming,? and ?fully accessible? ? because what I?ve seen so far doesn?t even come close. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:44 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hi Susan, Glad to see that you are open minded, and I hope we can find some time at AHG. It is true that students will need to learn how to use an EPUB reader of some kind, and it is not as simple as we would like. The choice depends on if the school has agreements with venders like VitalSource, RedShelf or others for the supply of materials. Fortunately these organizations are committed to accessibility. VitalSource can import unprotected EPUB, which is good news. I do believe that the digital publishing standards will continue to evolve, and we want them to be accessible out of the box. This is the way to get us out of this nightmare of modifying materials, tagging PDF, which you know all too well. Now, how do we get the professors to produce EPUB instead of PDF? Just imagine not having to tag all those PDF, grin! Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:01 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I appreciate your perspective, George. I am resistant to ePubs as part of classroom curriculum at the college level because I still see issues with the navigation of ePubs (aka, lack of page numbering!). My students are completely full of ?nope? about it, as it means they need to use something other than they are already using to read their files. I get that ? they are busy and have enough of a struggle just getting through their coursework without having to learn Yet Another Way of accessing materials that they?ve accessed successfully before using a single method. I will say that Macmillan includes page numbering in their ePubs. This is a HUGE plus for them, and a huge shift for me. But I?m not giving out ePubs from anyone else at this point. They are not up to par with what the student is expecting, nor what they need. I?m interested to see how this plays out at AHG this year. I WILL be paying attention. I was paying attention last year (I?m looking at YOU, Pearson!) and was wholly unimpressed and not willing to make that shift yet for my students. Also, I?m remembering how we were all told ?DAISY will be the new standard? and in the end, it wasn?t. Will ePub be the ?new standard?? That remains to be seen? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, At the recent AHEAD conference, there was a booth comparing the reading experience between PDF and EPUB. By far, the people saw the advantages of the modern EPUB format. In the W3C, the standards setting body, EPUB is being developed as the best mechanism for digital publishing. There is also the EPUB Accessibility Conformance and Discovery specification, which is being widely adopted. There is also the Accessibility Checker for EPUB (Ace by DAISY), which helps the publishers ensure their publications are fully accessible. The current recommendation is WCAG AA for materials in education. We also recommend that the publishers provide detailed descriptions of graphical content that conveys meaningful information to students. There will be a track on digital publishing at the upcoming AHG conference. Plus I will encourage the ATN and others to post short educational articles to help folks here and elsewhere learn about the many advantages of EPUB. For now, Here are two links to information about Reading Apps used for reading EPUB, because of course, not only must the content be accessible, but the Reading App used to read it must be accessible. We have been testing with a wide range of Assistive Technology. Here is the list of reading Apps at a high level: https://inclusivepublishing.org/blog/june-2018-epub-reading-apps-accessibility-support/ and here is the formal testing results of many, many apps. http://epubtest.org/testsuite/accessibility/ If I can be of any help, even helping a student identify a Reading App and AT combination, I would be happy to help. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dandrews at visi.com Wed Aug 29 19:54:38 2018 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed Aug 29 19:54:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No one is going to do all this conversion and hand-holding for them when they get out of academia. It would seem prudent to me to teach them how to deal with the materials that are available. I know ePub is a change for people, but 15 or 20 years ago, so were PDF's and people kicked and screamed. ePub's offer a richer, and inherently more accessible experience over PDF's. There is still some growing that needs to be done by tools, but they have the potential to be substantially better! Dave At 08:46 AM 8/29/2018, you wrote: >Same here.? For most of them, navigating a PDF >is new to them, as surprising as that might >be.? Not all young people are tech enthusiasts, >as is commonly believed, so I am trying to put >the least amount of stress on them as possible. > > >On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 9:44 AM Susan Kelmer ><Susan.Kelmer@colorado.edu> wrote: > >Andrea, this is basically what we do with >Bookshare files.? Most of my sighted students >have no interest in learning to navigate a >bookshare file, so we convert to word, add in >page numbers and heading levels (because those >do not exist or are poorly done in most >bookshare files) and then convert word to PDF, >or just give the student the word files. > >? > >Isn???t it amazing the hoops we jump through for >your students?? This is also why I am so angry >about publishers finding yet another few hoops >we have to jump through to get what our students >need.? Why are they making things more difficult? > >? > >Susan Kelmer > >Alternate Format Production Program Manager > >Disability Services > >University of Colorado Boulder > >303-735-4836 > >? > >? > >? > >From: athen-list ><athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> >On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:03 AM >To: Access Technology Higher Education Network ><athen-list@u.washington.edu> >Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF > >? > >I use a free program called Calibre (also >available in a ???portable??? version in case >you don???t have the ability to install software >on your computers yourself). It???s designed as >a general ebook management program, but it has >really good conversion capabilities. The only >issues I???ve had with epub to PDF are that >sometimes the conversion will divide pages in >odd places, and that there are usually no >original page numbers to correspond to the hard copy of the book. > >? > >Depending on your time constraints, you might >want to convert the epub to .docx, add page >breaks manually in Word, and then convert that >file to PDF so that you can ???recreate??? the >original publisher layout for the book, but >obviously that???s more time-consuming. > >? > >Good luck! > >? > >-Andi :) > >? > >-------------------------- > >Andrea Dietrich > >Cornell University > >Student Disability Services > >Cornell Health, Level 5 > >110 Ho Plaza > >Ithaca, NY 14853 > >http://sds.cornell.edu > >? > >Tel. 607.254.4545 > >Fax. 607.255.1562 > >? > >Office Hours: > >Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM > >Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM > >? > >From: athen-list ><athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> >On Behalf Of Robert Spangler >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:54 AM >To: Access Technology Higher Education Network ><athen-list@u.washington.edu> >Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF > >? > >Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to >PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing >it?? We distribute PDFs only to our students >unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on >AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. > > >? > >-- > >Robert Spangler >Disability Services Technical Support Specialist >rspangler1@udayton.edu >Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 >Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) >University of Dayton ? | 300 College Park ? | ? Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 >Phone: 937-229-2066 > >Fax: 937-229-3270 > >Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > >Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning >_______________________________________________ >athen-list mailing list >athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > >-- >Robert Spangler >Disability Services Technical Support Specialist >rspangler1@udayton.edu >Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 >Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) >University of Dayton ? | 300 College Park ? | ? Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 >Phone: 937-229-2066 >Fax: 937-229-3270 >Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) >Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu Thu Aug 30 06:02:21 2018 From: Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu (Kluesner, Bryon) Date: Thu Aug 30 06:03:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon Naturally speaking software Message-ID: HI all, I have an upcoming meeting with a student who uses an Alienware laptop (I've been told it is a gaming computer). Has anyone had any experience with downloading Dragon on such a laptop? Thanks, Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7792 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From learn at vt.edu Thu Aug 30 06:27:13 2018 From: learn at vt.edu (Robert Fentress) Date: Thu Aug 30 06:28:04 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon Naturally speaking software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No, but I can't imagine there would be any particular issue. My understanding is they are just very powerful Windows laptops. Is there a particular concern you had? 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Has anyone had any experience > with downloading Dragon on such a laptop? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bryon > > > > *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* > > *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* > > *Disability Resource Center* > > *Adjunct Professor* > > *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* > > [image: Power C] > > *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* > 103 Frist Hall > 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 > > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > > > (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc > > > *A member of the **Division of Student Development* > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- *Rob Fentress* *Web Accessibility Solutions Designer* Accessible Technologies at Virginia Tech Electronic Business Card (vCard) LinkedIn Profile VT Zoom Personal Conferencing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I do have a network license and plan to inform the student of what specific computers in my AT labs and our tech room in the library have the program installed on so he has an alternate to having it on his own computer. Thanks for the reply. Bryon From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Fentress Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:27 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon Naturally speaking software No, but I can't imagine there would be any particular issue. My understanding is they are just very powerful Windows laptops. Is there a particular concern you had? On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 9:08 AM Kluesner, Bryon > wrote: HI all, I have an upcoming meeting with a student who uses an Alienware laptop (I?ve been told it is a gaming computer). Has anyone had any experience with downloading Dragon on such a laptop? Thanks, Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies [Power C] The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc A member of the Division of Student Development _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Rob Fentress Web Accessibility Solutions Designer Accessible Technologies at Virginia Tech Electronic Business Card (vCard) LinkedIn Profile VT Zoom Personal Conferencing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justinr at disability.tamu.edu Thu Aug 30 06:47:25 2018 From: justinr at disability.tamu.edu (Justin Romack) Date: Thu Aug 30 06:48:02 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon Naturally speaking software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Howdy friend! Hoping your fall semester is off to a great start. You shouldn't have any trouble with this machine. Alienware is just the manufacturer. Dragon should install and launch like it would on any other laptop. Hope that's helpful. Would love to chat when the semester slows down... It's been too long. Thanks, Justin - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Services | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7792 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From adietrich at cornell.edu Thu Aug 30 07:15:50 2018 From: adietrich at cornell.edu (Andrea L. Dietrich) Date: Thu Aug 30 07:16:03 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: <00b301d43fe5$fa436b10$eeca4130$@montana.com> References: <003701d43fa7$eefa5ae0$ccef10a0$@montana.com> <004c01d43fc8$2f3e2d00$8dba8700$@montana.com> <008b01d43fd7$4eb17c00$ec147400$@montana.com> <00a201d43fda$81a01740$84e045c0$@montana.com> <00b301d43fe5$fa436b10$eeca4130$@montana.com> Message-ID: Getting files that are ?locked down? for copyright reasons is a big problem, since even if a student purchases an epub or PDF, if it?s DRM-locked they can?t use a lot of programs to read it ? again, including Capti, which is what most of our students are using for speech to text. I understand why publishers don?t want to risk their books floating around online, but honestly that?s more of a risk from students who AREN?T signing agreements promising not to share files. Also, forcing students who need alternative formats to buy new ebooks instead of having the option to purchase used books, or check things out from the library or what have you, is discriminatory and definitely not equal. -Andi -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:17 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF IMO, ADE is not sutable for use with AT. Our tests show it is unstable. If I can help to get them to change this requirement, I am hapy to talk to the Library department and or the Princeton publishing group. We need to work together to resolves these roadblocks. Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 3:01 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF We can download Princeton?s ePubs through our library system (I imagine our campus is giving them some funding for this). They HAVE to be opened with ADE. I can get a Bookshare file of most of their stuff too, but they are messy and need lots of work. I have no access to titles on VitalSource, and as far as I know, Redshelf either. And yet again, let me say it, this is just yet one more way I need to go find a book for a student, and yet one more time I have to do an end run and fix the file before I can give it to the student to use with their technology. I feel like no one is really listening to us, the providers, and what we are requesting. Why is this? Why is it so hard to just give us what we ask for, when we know they have the materials in that format to begin with? This isn?t rocket science, you know? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:55 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Interesting. I have never heard of that. So, could you rename the .epub to .zip and unzip it? If it shows the XHTML files as garbage, please give me the name of your contact at Princeton and I will try to straighten them out. Is this title not available in RedShelf or VitalSource? Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:40 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Several of the ePubs I?m getting from publishers require Adobe Digital Editions to be opened. The latest example is an ePub from Princeton. So, how do we get around that? Again?a publisher determining what format our students should be using to access their materials. I?m tired of the runaround, I?m tired of wasting time trying to find a workaround. Just give me the PDFs. I never have trouble with those. I really don?t. I want one straight path. Not a thousand. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:32 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hi, Trying to be helpful here, grin. First Digital editions is nothing I would recommend, and I don?t think publishers would either. If it is being recommended on your campus, you need to fix that. Both Redshelf and VitalSource with the web view, i.e. you read online, work with the Kurzweil products. I would suggest that your screen reader users may do better with simply using their screen reader and one of the commercial readers, and Redshelf and VitalSource is doing well. Next release of Windows 10 the fall edition will have upgrades to the EPUB reading experience in Edge. There are a couple of annoying bugs for screen reader users in Edge right now or I would recommend it. For students with learning disabilities and dyslexic, the learning tools are terrific right now. Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF The thing is, we are giving our students a way to access their materials using ONE portal, ONE software ? Kurzweil. But no, publishers insist we need VitalSource for this one thing, and RedShelf for another thing, and oh, here?s an ePub but the student needs Adobe Digital Editions to access that one! We don?t tag PDFs. We turn PDFs into well-formatted Word files ? just about the ultimate in accessibility. I do not remediate PDFs from publishers, other than to crop or rename or to break into chapters. If it needs more than that, I am not wasting weeks on remediation; I?m spend 2-4 hours turning it into Word. Easy-peasy, guaranteed accessible content. Just because a publisher makes something ?accessible? on their platform or portal does not mean this works for our students, or any students. I am going to resist at all points any publisher?s assumption or decision that they know what our students need and that accessing YET ANOTHER PORTAL is okay. It is not okay. Period. I have students who need to read 800 pages a week. We don?t need to make it more complicated. We need to make it simpler. Publishers are going to have to prove to me that their new methods are ?better,? ?less time consuming,? and ?fully accessible? ? because what I?ve seen so far doesn?t even come close. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:44 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hi Susan, Glad to see that you are open minded, and I hope we can find some time at AHG. It is true that students will need to learn how to use an EPUB reader of some kind, and it is not as simple as we would like. The choice depends on if the school has agreements with venders like VitalSource, RedShelf or others for the supply of materials. Fortunately these organizations are committed to accessibility. VitalSource can import unprotected EPUB, which is good news. I do believe that the digital publishing standards will continue to evolve, and we want them to be accessible out of the box. This is the way to get us out of this nightmare of modifying materials, tagging PDF, which you know all too well. Now, how do we get the professors to produce EPUB instead of PDF? Just imagine not having to tag all those PDF, grin! Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:01 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF I appreciate your perspective, George. I am resistant to ePubs as part of classroom curriculum at the college level because I still see issues with the navigation of ePubs (aka, lack of page numbering!). My students are completely full of ?nope? about it, as it means they need to use something other than they are already using to read their files. I get that ? they are busy and have enough of a struggle just getting through their coursework without having to learn Yet Another Way of accessing materials that they?ve accessed successfully before using a single method. I will say that Macmillan includes page numbering in their ePubs. This is a HUGE plus for them, and a huge shift for me. But I?m not giving out ePubs from anyone else at this point. They are not up to par with what the student is expecting, nor what they need. I?m interested to see how this plays out at AHG this year. I WILL be paying attention. I was paying attention last year (I?m looking at YOU, Pearson!) and was wholly unimpressed and not willing to make that shift yet for my students. Also, I?m remembering how we were all told ?DAISY will be the new standard? and in the end, it wasn?t. Will ePub be the ?new standard?? That remains to be seen? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, At the recent AHEAD conference, there was a booth comparing the reading experience between PDF and EPUB. By far, the people saw the advantages of the modern EPUB format. In the W3C, the standards setting body, EPUB is being developed as the best mechanism for digital publishing. There is also the EPUB Accessibility Conformance and Discovery specification, which is being widely adopted. There is also the Accessibility Checker for EPUB (Ace by DAISY), which helps the publishers ensure their publications are fully accessible. The current recommendation is WCAG AA for materials in education. We also recommend that the publishers provide detailed descriptions of graphical content that conveys meaningful information to students. There will be a track on digital publishing at the upcoming AHG conference. Plus I will encourage the ATN and others to post short educational articles to help folks here and elsewhere learn about the many advantages of EPUB. For now, Here are two links to information about Reading Apps used for reading EPUB, because of course, not only must the content be accessible, but the Reading App used to read it must be accessible. We have been testing with a wide range of Assistive Technology. Here is the list of reading Apps at a high level: https://inclusivepublishing.org/blog/june-2018-epub-reading-apps-accessibility-support/ and here is the formal testing results of many, many apps. http://epubtest.org/testsuite/accessibility/ If I can be of any help, even helping a student identify a Reading App and AT combination, I would be happy to help. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) http://www.imls.gov Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the W3C http://www.w3c.org/wai Phone: +1 406/549-4687 Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it? 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URL: From chagnon at pubcom.com Thu Aug 30 07:56:05 2018 From: chagnon at pubcom.com (chagnon@pubcom.com) Date: Thu Aug 30 07:56:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon Naturally speaking software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <028a01d44071$942a4fb0$bc7eef10$@pubcom.com> Alienware laptops are manufactured by Dell and have ultra-fast, powerful iCore processors, graphics processors, and sound processors. And gobs of RAM. (Secretly, I covet Alienware. But I don?t game! I want the laptops for design and digital media. They are awesome machines for designers.) I also don?t anticipate any problems with Dragon Naturally, but depending upon the student?s model, there is an outside chance of incompatibility with the sound card drivers. If the student has a new model, it could be outfitted with bleeding edge processors which are temperamental and finicky. If there is a problem, try updating the laptop?s sound card drivers. Also make sure to install the latest version of Dragon. And Dell, which is the largest seller of hardware to the Federal government, is very aware of accessibility issues so you could probably get in touch with their tech support department and get help, too. ?Bevi Chagnon ? ? ? Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO | Bevi@PubCom.com ? ? ? PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting ? training ? development ? design ? sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes ? ? ? Latest blog-newsletter ? Accessibility Tips at www.PubCom.com/blog From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Fentress Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:27 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon Naturally speaking software No, but I can't imagine there would be any particular issue. My understanding is they are just very powerful Windows laptops. Is there a particular concern you had? On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 9:08 AM Kluesner, Bryon > wrote: HI all, I have an upcoming meeting with a student who uses an Alienware laptop (I?ve been told it is a gaming computer). Has anyone had any experience with downloading Dragon on such a laptop? Thanks, Bryon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 09:32:25 2018 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Thu Aug 30 09:33:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Dragon Naturally speaking software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bryon et al ATHEN-ites, Aside from having an internal sound card in the laptop, here are the specs directly from Nuance on what's required. Just double check to make sure the system requirements are met. If the laptop has a sound chip rather than an internal soundcard, the student (or you) can get a microphone with a sound booster card built into the headset mic. I think Andrea offers several with a soundcard booster built-in. Minimum System Requirements: CPU: 2.2 GHz Intel? dual core or equivalent AMD processor Note: SSE2 instruction set required. Processor Cache: 512 KB Memory (RAM): 32-bit: 2 GB for Windows 7, 8, 8.1, 10 and Windows Server 2012. 64-bit: 4GB for Window 7, 8, 8.1, 10, Windows Server 2008 R2 and Windows Server 2012 R2. Free hard disk space: 4GB (8GB for keycard and download installs) Supported Operating Systems: Windows 8 and 8.1 (32-bit and 64-bit Editions) Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (32-bit and 64-bit Editions) Windows 10 (32-bit and 64-bit Editions) Windows Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1 or higher (64-bit only Edition) Windows Server 2012 DVD-ROM drive (required for DVD installation). Hope this helps! Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 6:04 AM Kluesner, Bryon wrote: > HI all, > > > > I have an upcoming meeting with a student who uses an Alienware laptop > (I?ve been told it is a gaming computer). Has anyone had any experience > with downloading Dragon on such a laptop? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bryon > > > > *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* > > *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* > > *Disability Resource Center* > > *Adjunct Professor* > > *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* > > [image: Power C] > > *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* > 103 Frist Hall > 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 > > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > > > (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc > > > *A member of the **Division of Student Development* > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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These exercises, there are excellent training for students learning the new software. 15 to 20 minutes a day practicing the exercises for dictation will increase their skill and confidence in using the software. Blessings, Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 6:04 AM Kluesner, Bryon wrote: > HI all, > > > > I have an upcoming meeting with a student who uses an Alienware laptop > (I?ve been told it is a gaming computer). Has anyone had any experience > with downloading Dragon on such a laptop? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bryon > > > > *Bryon Kluesner, RhD* > > *Adaptive Technology Coordinator* > > *Disability Resource Center* > > *Adjunct Professor* > > *College of Health, Education & Professional Studies* > > [image: Power C] > > *The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga* > 103 Frist Hall > 615 McCallie Avenue, Dept. 2953 > > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > > > (423) 425-4006 | utc.edu/drc > > > *A member of the **Division of Student Development* > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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David Schwarte From: athen-list On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 10:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF No one is going to do all this conversion and hand-holding for them when they get out of academia. It would seem prudent to me to teach them how to deal with the materials that are available. I know ePub is a change for people, but 15 or 20 years ago, so were PDF's and people kicked and screamed. ePub's offer a richer, and inherently more accessible experience over PDF's. There is still some growing that needs to be done by tools, but they have the potential to be substantially better! Dave At 08:46 AM 8/29/2018, you wrote: Same here.? For most of them, navigating a PDF is new to them, as surprising as that might be.? Not all young people are tech enthusiasts, as is commonly believed, so I am trying to put the least amount of stress on them as possible. On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 9:44 AM Susan Kelmer < Susan.Kelmer@colorado.edu> wrote: Andrea, this is basically what we do with Bookshare files.? Most of my sighted students have no interest in learning to navigate a bookshare file, so we convert to word, add in page numbers and heading levels (because those do not exist or are poorly done in most bookshare files) and then convert word to PDF, or just give the student the word files. ? Isn???t it amazing the hoops we jump through for your students?? This is also why I am so angry about publishers finding yet another few hoops we have to jump through to get what our students need.? Why are they making things more difficult? ? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 ? ? ? From: athen-list < athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < athen-list@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF ? I use a free program called Calibre (also available in a ???portable??? version in case you don???t have the ability to install software on your computers yourself). It???s designed as a general ebook management program, but it has really good conversion capabilities. The only issues I???ve had with epub to PDF are that sometimes the conversion will divide pages in odd places, and that there are usually no original page numbers to correspond to the hard copy of the book. ? Depending on your time constraints, you might want to convert the epub to .docx, add page breaks manually in Word, and then convert that file to PDF so that you can ???recreate??? the original publisher layout for the book, but obviously that???s more time-consuming. ? Good luck! ? -Andi :) ? -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu ? Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 ? Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM ? From: athen-list < athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < athen-list@u.washington.edu> Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF ? Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it?? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. ? -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. 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URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 11:29:13 2018 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Thu Aug 30 11:29:56 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: <20047251da1b4d7388d5e36433545eac@wppexc06.purdue.lcl> References: <20047251da1b4d7388d5e36433545eac@wppexc06.purdue.lcl> Message-ID: ATHEN-ites, I'll throw my two cents into the ring on this discussion of extolling the virtues of EPUB versus other types of publisher files. I'm with Susan Kelmer one hundred percent on this. Because it is easier for the publishers to produce EPUB files does not mean that they are acceptable as source files, and it doesn't mean we should go down with a whimper accepting what is offered to us instead of expecting --and getting-- what we need. Our role in higher education, whether we work in the disability resources office providing accommodations, or we work in the alternative text production or in the assistive technology branch providing services and/or accessible text files, our responsibility is to provide access for the students with disabilities on our campuses. While all of us will acknowledge that things are different when we reach "the real world," it is not our responsibility to push students into fending for themselves while they are under our purview, or training them to accept a text format which is not specifically designed for the specific functional limitations of their disabilities. Would it be a good idea for us in disability services to provide some kind of transition to "real life" accommodations? Certainly, but not at the cost of providing them with accessible text in the present tense. The publishers seem to have decided that they know what we want (or what the students want and/or need) is another example of ableism ? that they know more than we do about what we need and what the students need. Is not a matter of sitting on the curb with a cup out and being grateful for any handout that comes by. We are all professionals, and we should not be grateful for or satisfied with handouts from the publishers. Publishers are not experts in accommodations, they are not experts in assistive technology, they are not experts in alternative text production, learning disabilities, reading impairments, or anything else related to disabilities. They are publishers. Period. They have designed a process which is easier for them, and not necessarily what we or our students need. The remediation necessary for EPUB files borders on onerous. My two cents ? and it's not even Friday! [stepping down from my soapbox now]. Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 11:07 AM Schwarte, David M. wrote: > Hello david, > > > > Thanks for stating what I was thinking so well. In the ?wild? a PDF that > has text, a set reading order, and tags is extremely rare. So rare that I > assume none of these features are there and proceed with opening the PDF as > if it were image-only. Long-term this is faster and less labor intensive. > Remediating documents is not in my job description, so spending time in > testing accessibility and fixing issues is essentially a hobby. In > comparison, an imperfect ePub is a vast improvement. > > > > David Schwarte > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *David Andrews > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 10:55 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF > > > > No one is going to do all this conversion and hand-holding for them when > they get out of academia. It would seem prudent to me to teach them how to > deal with the materials that are available. > > I know ePub is a change for people, but 15 or 20 years ago, so were PDF's > and people kicked and screamed. ePub's offer a richer, and inherently more > accessible experience over PDF's. There is still some growing that needs > to be done by tools, but they have the potential to be substantially better! > > Dave > > > At 08:46 AM 8/29/2018, you wrote: > > Same here.? For most of them, navigating a PDF is new to them, as > surprising as that might be.? Not all young people are tech enthusiasts, > as is commonly believed, so I am trying to put the least amount of stress > on them as possible. > > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 9:44 AM Susan Kelmer < Susan.Kelmer@colorado.edu> > wrote: > > Andrea, this is basically what we do with Bookshare files.? Most of my > sighted students have no interest in learning to navigate a bookshare file, > so we convert to word, add in page numbers and heading levels (because > those do not exist or are poorly done in most bookshare files) and then > convert word to PDF, or just give the student the word files. > > ? > > Isn???t it amazing the hoops we jump through for your students?? This is > also why I am so angry about publishers finding yet another few hoops we > have to jump through to get what our students need.? Why are they making > things more difficult? > > ? > > Susan Kelmer > > Alternate Format Production Program Manager > > Disability Services > > University of Colorado Boulder > > 303-735-4836 > > ? > > ? > > ? > > From: athen-list < athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> On > Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:03 AM > > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF > > ? > > I use a free program called Calibre (also available in a ???portable?? > version in case you don???t have the ability to install software on your > computers yourself). It???s designed as a general ebook management program, > but it has really good conversion capabilities. The only issues I???ve had > with epub to PDF are that sometimes the conversion will divide pages in odd > places, and that there are usually no original page numbers to correspond > to the hard copy of the book. > > ? > > Depending on your time constraints, you might want to convert the epub to > .docx, add page breaks manually in Word, and then convert that file to PDF > so that you can ???recreate?? the original publisher layout for the book, > but obviously that???s more time-consuming. > > ? > > Good luck! > > ? > > -Andi :) > > ? > > -------------------------- > > Andrea Dietrich > > Cornell University > > Student Disability Services > > Cornell Health, Level 5 > > 110 Ho Plaza > > Ithaca, NY 14853 > > http://sds.cornell.edu > > ? > > Tel. 607.254.4545 > > Fax. 607.255.1562 > > ? > > Office Hours: > > Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM > > Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM > > ? > > From: athen-list < athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> On > Behalf Of Robert Spangler > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:54 AM > > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF > > ? > > Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I > go about doing it?? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless > otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is > the only option available from them. > > ? > > -- > > Robert Spangler > > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > > rspangler1@udayton.edu > > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > > University of Dayton ? | 300 College Park ? | ? Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > _______________________________________________ > > athen-list mailing list > > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton ? | 300 College Park ? | ? Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chagnon at pubcom.com Thu Aug 30 13:03:49 2018 From: chagnon at pubcom.com (chagnon@pubcom.com) Date: Thu Aug 30 13:03:59 2018 Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF In-Reply-To: <20047251da1b4d7388d5e36433545eac@wppexc06.purdue.lcl> References: <20047251da1b4d7388d5e36433545eac@wppexc06.purdue.lcl> Message-ID: <055f01d4409c$9172c240$b45846c0$@pubcom.com> David wrote: ? In the ?wild? a PDF that has text, a set reading order, and tags is extremely rare. ? Some of us are working to make these ?wild? untagged or mis-tagged PDFs a rarity! It?s not the PDF technology that?s at fault; it?s the authors who don?t know how to make an accessible Word, PowerPoint, Excel, or InDesign document?and then export that to a crappy inaccessible PDF. Just a small amount of training can teach content creators how to make their PDFs accessible, and when they do, the PDFs are gorgeous for everyone. EPUBs have their shortcomings: for one, the visual presentation is ugly. No, it?s downright deadly. Since good visual design is needed to convey information to those who are sighted, EPUB isn?t good enough at this time to meet everyone?s needs. Second, fixed-layout EPUBs are still not fully accessible, tables are not fully accessible, graphics have their shortcomings. EPUB is still a very rough, primitive technology that hopefully will improve in the future. This year?s AHG Conference will have several sessions on accessible PDFs. * Rob Haverty from Adobe will have several sessions on PDFs, including a pre-conference hands-on workshop for remediating PDFs. See the class listing at https://accessinghigherground.org/pdf-train-the-trainer-and-introduction-to-pdf-accessibility/ * I?ll have a pre-conference hands-on workshop in making accessible PDFs from InDesign. https://accessinghigherground.org/accessible-adobe-indesign-layouts-to-produce-accessible-pdfs-and-epubs/ * And other PDF topics are covered throughout the conference. https://accessinghigherground.org/conference-schedule/ Looking forward to seeing many of you at AHG in November! But don?t blame the PDF technology?it?s the authors who are dropping the PDF ball. ? ? ? Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO | Bevi@PubCom.com ? ? ? PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting ? training ? development ? design ? sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes ? ? ? Latest blog-newsletter ? Accessibility Tips at www.PubCom.com/blog From: athen-list On Behalf Of Schwarte, David M. Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 2:04 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF Hello david, Thanks for stating what I was thinking so well. In the ?wild? a PDF that has text, a set reading order, and tags is extremely rare. So rare that I assume none of these features are there and proceed with opening the PDF as if it were image-only. Long-term this is faster and less labor intensive. Remediating documents is not in my job description, so spending time in testing accessibility and fixing issues is essentially a hobby. In comparison, an imperfect ePub is a vast improvement. David Schwarte From: athen-list > On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 10:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF No one is going to do all this conversion and hand-holding for them when they get out of academia. It would seem prudent to me to teach them how to deal with the materials that are available. I know ePub is a change for people, but 15 or 20 years ago, so were PDF's and people kicked and screamed. ePub's offer a richer, and inherently more accessible experience over PDF's. There is still some growing that needs to be done by tools, but they have the potential to be substantially better! Dave At 08:46 AM 8/29/2018, you wrote: Same here.? For most of them, navigating a PDF is new to them, as surprising as that might be.? Not all young people are tech enthusiasts, as is commonly believed, so I am trying to put the least amount of stress on them as possible. On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 9:44 AM Susan Kelmer < Susan.Kelmer@colorado.edu > wrote: Andrea, this is basically what we do with Bookshare files.? Most of my sighted students have no interest in learning to navigate a bookshare file, so we convert to word, add in page numbers and heading levels (because those do not exist or are poorly done in most bookshare files) and then convert word to PDF, or just give the student the word files. ? Isn???t it amazing the hoops we jump through for your students?? This is also why I am so angry about publishers finding yet another few hoops we have to jump through to get what our students need.? Why are they making things more difficult? ? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 ? ? ? From: athen-list < athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu > On Behalf Of Andrea L. Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: Re: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF ? I use a free program called Calibre (also available in a ???portable??? version in case you don???t have the ability to install software on your computers yourself). It???s designed as a general ebook management program, but it has really good conversion capabilities. The only issues I???ve had with epub to PDF are that sometimes the conversion will divide pages in odd places, and that there are usually no original page numbers to correspond to the hard copy of the book. ? Depending on your time constraints, you might want to convert the epub to .docx, add page breaks manually in Word, and then convert that file to PDF so that you can ???recreate??? the original publisher layout for the book, but obviously that???s more time-consuming. ? Good luck! ? -Andi :) ? -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu ? Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 ? Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM ? From: athen-list < athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: [Athen] Converting EPUB to PDF ? Hello, is it possible to convert from EPUB to PDF and, if so, how would I go about doing it?? We distribute PDFs only to our students unless otherwise requested, but a publisher on AccessText is stating that Epub is the only option available from them. ? -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton ? | 300 College Park ? | ? Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton ? | 300 College Park ? | ? Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dietrich) Date: Thu Aug 30 13:57:34 2018 Subject: [Athen] Contact at Wiley Press In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don?t have a specific contact, but I had good luck just contacting permissions@wiley.com for a book I needed recently that wasn?t on AccessText. -Andi :) -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich Cornell University Student Disability Services Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 http://sds.cornell.edu Tel. 607.254.4545 Fax. 607.255.1562 Office Hours: Monday-Thursday 8:15AM-4:45PM Friday 8:15AM-4:00PM From: athen-list On Behalf Of Corrine Schoeb Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 4:30 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Contact at Wiley Press Hi all, Does anyone have a contact at Wiley who is responsive to access needs they might be willing to share with me? -- Corrine Schoeb Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS 610-957-6208 *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including by email. 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Wiley, Elizabeth Vigier Mgr - Biblio & E-Content Fulfillment 201-748-6577 Other Paulette Goldwebber .201-748-8765 Dominick Mosco 201-748-8634 Newest Web Info from AccessText Network Publisher Lookup 2018 Company Name: WILEY Website: http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/Section/id-403428.html *Thomas Kearns* Assistive Technician / Accessibility Specialist ATACP Office of Disability Resource Center Truckee Meadows Community College 7000 Dandini Blvd. (RDMT 122) Reno, Nevada 89512 Wk: 775-673-7209 Fax 775-673-7207 Email: tkearns@tmcc.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Corrine Schoeb wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone have a contact at Wiley who is responsive to access needs they > might be willing to share with me? > > -- > > Corrine Schoeb > Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS > 610-957-6208 > > *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including > by email. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and the > security of our network. > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- -- *Public Records Notice:*?In accordance with Nevada Revised Statutes (NRS) Chapter 239, this email and responses, unless otherwise made confidential by law, may be subject to the Nevada Public Records laws and may be disclosed to the public upon request. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norm.coombs at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 21:26:28 2018 From: norm.coombs at gmail.com (Norm Coombs) Date: Thu Aug 30 21:26:48 2018 Subject: [Athen] EASI Free Webinar on the Chromebook Accessibility Message-ID: <4f15408b-be6d-3ac2-76ba-0023c6a0028a@gmail.com> EASI Free Webinar on the Chromebook Accessibility Mon. Sept. 10 at 11 pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 Eastern Presenter: Laura (Palmaro) Allen, Google Chrome & Chrome OS Accessibility Program Manager Chromebook computers come with a variety of accessibility features built in, such as the ChromeVox screen reader, different types of magnification, braille support, and more. Join Laura to learn about the various features and functionalities built into Chrome OS that can help to make your experience more accessible and productive. Read more and register from the EASI home page. Look for the link to the Chrome book webinar and register free there. http://easi.cc Norm -- "Serve some cause more important than yourself" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Fri Aug 31 05:54:06 2018 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Fri Aug 31 05:54:40 2018 Subject: [Athen] Monitoring Students During Tests Message-ID: Hello everyone: I know I've asked this before on the AHEAD list but I don't think I have here. If so, please accept my apologies for the repeat post. Currently, we have a camera system for monitoring our students in the testing center. On the computers, we have a program called SentryPC, which logs everything on the computers -- keystrokes, sites visited, programs open, etc. With this program, I can block access to certain sites. Problem is that it is always killed off by Symantec Antivirus (despite exceptions), the web interface is not very accessible (I am a blind screen reader user), and a host of other issues. I am trying to find other solutions, because my administration is reluctant to get rid of this program until I find a replacement. What are folks using to monitor their testing computers? Ultimately, it should not interfere with any assistive technology, including screen readers, which I would imagine the browser lockdown programs probably do. Looking forward to whatever people have to say on this matter. Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Fri Aug 31 06:05:12 2018 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Fri Aug 31 06:05:42 2018 Subject: [Athen] Editing PDFs with a Screen Reader Message-ID: Hello: I am in charge of our alternative formats program. As a screen reader user, I do not find Adobe Acrobat Pro or Abbyy Finereader to be the most accessible. I find them laggy, they sometimes freeze and I have not found a way to edit PDFs directly. Is this possible for blind folks to do with a screen reader? Ultimately, I need to be able to remediate PDFs. I would like to do tagging, edit the text, do chapter breaks, etc. I know I can do chapter breaks especially if there are bookmarks in the PDF, but I find this difficult to do, to determine the page numbers easily, if there are not bookmarks. Normally, we have student workers who handle the editing and I just do the administrative stuff, such as sending out the texts. We have summer classes, though, when the student workers are not here, so this task ultimately falls to me! I would love to hear from people, especially blind people, who are working with remediating PDFs. Is this possible? Are there accessibility problems with these programs? Admittedly, I've just accepted that most PDFs are not always edited adequately and I deal with it, but I don't want to tell my students this. Haha. I usually run it through OCR and that's sufficient for me except for when the order of the reading is incorrect. Looking forward to responses. Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frederick.273 at osu.edu Fri Aug 31 06:09:59 2018 From: frederick.273 at osu.edu (Frederick, Kathryn A.) Date: Fri Aug 31 06:10:07 2018 Subject: [Athen] Editing PDFs with a Screen Reader In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Unfortunately, no, creating an accessible tagged PDF is not possible for screen reader users?sad but true. Wish I had better news, Katie From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 9:05 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Editing PDFs with a Screen Reader Hello: I am in charge of our alternative formats program. As a screen reader user, I do not find Adobe Acrobat Pro or Abbyy Finereader to be the most accessible. I find them laggy, they sometimes freeze and I have not found a way to edit PDFs directly. Is this possible for blind folks to do with a screen reader? Ultimately, I need to be able to remediate PDFs. I would like to do tagging, edit the text, do chapter breaks, etc. I know I can do chapter breaks especially if there are bookmarks in the PDF, but I find this difficult to do, to determine the page numbers easily, if there are not bookmarks. Normally, we have student workers who handle the editing and I just do the administrative stuff, such as sending out the texts. We have summer classes, though, when the student workers are not here, so this task ultimately falls to me! I would love to hear from people, especially blind people, who are working with remediating PDFs. Is this possible? Are there accessibility problems with these programs? Admittedly, I've just accepted that most PDFs are not always edited adequately and I deal with it, but I don't want to tell my students this. Haha. I usually run it through OCR and that's sufficient for me except for when the order of the reading is incorrect. Looking forward to responses. Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Fri Aug 31 06:34:38 2018 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Fri Aug 31 06:43:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Editing PDFs with a Screen Reader In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000f01d4412f$5da85bd0$18f91370$@karlencommunications.com> Screen readers and Text-to-Speech tools are always in ?virtual view? of HTML and PDF documents. This means that the adaptive technology is reading from the buffer not the text layer of the document, In PDF, this is the Tags Tree. It is the reason we can?t add notes or other comments to PDF documents ? where we think we are in the document is not where we are, it is where we are in the buffer. It is also why we can?t follow notes or comments in PDF documents. For us, there is no connection between the note or comment and the ?text on the page.? While we can go down the Tags Tree, open the tags and review some of the content/that is showing, we can?t tell if content has been missed or tagged correctly based on what is on the visual representation of the page we are working from. You do need eyesight to fully remediate PDF documents. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 9:05 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Editing PDFs with a Screen Reader Hello: I am in charge of our alternative formats program. As a screen reader user, I do not find Adobe Acrobat Pro or Abbyy Finereader to be the most accessible. I find them laggy, they sometimes freeze and I have not found a way to edit PDFs directly. Is this possible for blind folks to do with a screen reader? Ultimately, I need to be able to remediate PDFs. I would like to do tagging, edit the text, do chapter breaks, etc. I know I can do chapter breaks especially if there are bookmarks in the PDF, but I find this difficult to do, to determine the page numbers easily, if there are not bookmarks. Normally, we have student workers who handle the editing and I just do the administrative stuff, such as sending out the texts. We have summer classes, though, when the student workers are not here, so this task ultimately falls to me! I would love to hear from people, especially blind people, who are working with remediating PDFs. Is this possible? Are there accessibility problems with these programs? Admittedly, I've just accepted that most PDFs are not always edited adequately and I deal with it, but I don't want to tell my students this. Haha. I usually run it through OCR and that's sufficient for me except for when the order of the reading is incorrect. Looking forward to responses. Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Fri Aug 31 06:44:48 2018 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Fri Aug 31 06:45:44 2018 Subject: [Athen] Editing PDFs with a Screen Reader In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I didn't think so, was just looking for confirmation. It truly is sad, though, because we blind people do hold jobs and it is important for us to be able to perform these functions. On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 9:13 AM Frederick, Kathryn A. wrote: > Unfortunately, no, creating an accessible tagged PDF is not possible for > screen reader users?sad but true. > > > > Wish I had better news, > > > > Katie > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Robert Spangler > *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2018 9:05 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] Editing PDFs with a Screen Reader > > > > Hello: > > > > I am in charge of our alternative formats program. As a screen reader > user, I do not find Adobe Acrobat Pro or Abbyy Finereader to be the most > accessible. I find them laggy, they sometimes freeze and I have not found > a way to edit PDFs directly. > > > > Is this possible for blind folks to do with a screen reader? Ultimately, > I need to be able to remediate PDFs. I would like to do tagging, edit the > text, do chapter breaks, etc. I know I can do chapter breaks especially if > there are bookmarks in the PDF, but I find this difficult to do, to > determine the page numbers easily, if there are not bookmarks. > > > > Normally, we have student workers who handle the editing and I just do the > administrative stuff, such as sending out the texts. We have summer > classes, though, when the student workers are not here, so this task > ultimately falls to me! > > > > I would love to hear from people, especially blind people, who are working > with remediating PDFs. Is this possible? Are there accessibility problems > with these programs? Admittedly, I've just accepted that most PDFs are not > always edited adequately and I deal with it, but I don't want to tell my > students this. Haha. I usually run it through OCR and that's sufficient > for me except for when the order of the reading is incorrect. > > > > Looking forward to responses. > > > > Robert > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Fri Aug 31 08:06:20 2018 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Fri Aug 31 08:06:46 2018 Subject: [Athen] Looking for a few files for books... Message-ID: Backwards and Forwards by Ball, 9780809311101 Movement for Actors, Potter, 9781581152333 (available from bookshare but no pictures...we need the pictures) The Breathing Book by Farhi, 9780805042979 (again, available from bookshare but no pictures) Thanks in advance! 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My main concern is the 3 doesn't have a built in mic, so the student would have to use their phone to record audio. Looking at reviews, the app that goes with the pen is a battery hog, so I'm worried about students having enough phone charge to get through back to back lectures. We could include that access to power as part of their accommodation, but that doesn't change the fact that the student then has to make sure they have their phone and charger at all times. Thanks for any input! Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lbencomo at uccs.edu Fri Aug 31 08:52:19 2018 From: lbencomo at uccs.edu (Leyna Bencomo) Date: Fri Aug 31 08:52:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe 3 Smart Pens In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We are waiting on more Echo pens as well. All mine are out. If anyone finds any, please let me know! I like the Echo pens more than any of the other models partly for the reasons you state, Eric. Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ [sig logo small] From: athen-list On Behalf Of Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 9:39 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe 3 Smart Pens Hi all, New to the list, so I apologize if this topic has already been covered. I currently have students waiting for a smart pen as a note taking accommodation. We have been using the Live Scribe Echo, but when I went to buy more yesterday, every place is sold out. The students have already been waiting for two weeks, thanks to an Amazon shipping error that's looking more and more like will end up being refunded. With all that in mind I started looking into the Live Scribe 3, but have some concerns, so was wondering if anyone has used that model? My main concern is the 3 doesn't have a built in mic, so the student would have to use their phone to record audio. Looking at reviews, the app that goes with the pen is a battery hog, so I'm worried about students having enough phone charge to get through back to back lectures. We could include that access to power as part of their accommodation, but that doesn't change the fact that the student then has to make sure they have their phone and charger at all times. Thanks for any input! Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 15239 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From dhayman at uw.edu Fri Aug 31 08:52:38 2018 From: dhayman at uw.edu (Doug Hayman) Date: Fri Aug 31 08:53:24 2018 Subject: [Athen] Live Scribe 3 Smart Pens In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was buying the Echo directly from Livescribe.com a few months ago. They have been an irritating company to deal with over the years. A few Echo devices we'd loan out all had the screens fail on them with the company offering what, $67 to trade in for another one. They have had the wireless one come an go in a short span of time and used to have a pro-pack with pen and 4 notebooks but haven't found that one recently. Some of our DO-IT Scholars have been more interested in using Sonocent. On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) < ecmatson@uidaho.edu> wrote: > Hi all, > > > > New to the list, so I apologize if this topic has already been covered. I > currently have students waiting for a smart pen as a note taking > accommodation. We have been using the Live Scribe Echo, but when I went to > buy more yesterday, every place is sold out. The students have already been > waiting for two weeks, thanks to an Amazon shipping error that?s looking > more and more like will end up being refunded. With all that in mind I > started looking into the Live Scribe 3, but have some concerns, so was > wondering if anyone has used that model? > > > > My main concern is the 3 doesn?t have a built in mic, so the student would > have to use their phone to record audio. Looking at reviews, the app that > goes with the pen is a battery hog, so I?m worried about students having > enough phone charge to get through back to back lectures. We could include > that access to power as part of their accommodation, but that doesn?t > change the fact that the student then has to make sure they have their > phone and charger at all times. > > > > Thanks for any input! > > > > > > *Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist* > > Center for Disability Access and Resources > > Division of Student Affairs > > The University of Idaho > > Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 > > Fax: 208.885.9404 > > Campus Zip: 4257 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- Doug Hayman w.edu> Senior Computer Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lbencomo at uccs.edu Fri Aug 31 08:53:06 2018 From: lbencomo at uccs.edu (Leyna Bencomo) Date: Fri Aug 31 08:53:32 2018 Subject: [Athen] Contact at Wiley Press In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wiley has recently ?denied? my requests via Access Text Network. I?ll be calling them directly as well. Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ [sig logo small] From: athen-list On Behalf Of Thomas Kearns Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 5:52 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Contact at Wiley Press Are you using AccessText Network? If not JOIN it's free!!! Wiley supplies books through AccessText Network. Otherwise, these links are 2 years + old or so. Wiley, Elizabeth Vigier Mgr - Biblio & E-Content Fulfillment 201-748-6577 Other Paulette Goldwebber .201-748-8765 Dominick Mosco 201-748-8634 Newest Web Info from AccessText Network Publisher Lookup 2018 Company Name: WILEY Website: http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/Section/id-403428.html Thomas Kearns Assistive Technician / Accessibility Specialist ATACP Office of Disability Resource Center Truckee Meadows Community College 7000 Dandini Blvd. (RDMT 122) Reno, Nevada 89512 Wk: 775-673-7209 Fax 775-673-7207 Email: tkearns@tmcc.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Corrine Schoeb > wrote: Hi all, Does anyone have a contact at Wiley who is responsive to access needs they might be willing to share with me? -- Corrine Schoeb Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS 610-957-6208 *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including by email. 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However, our professors have the option of having their Canvas tests on Respondus Lockdown which locks out the use of the internet. There is a setting for JAWS use which works well. However, Read & Write does not function, nor Kurzweil because they have features that access the internet. Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ [sig logo small] From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 6:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Monitoring Students During Tests Hello everyone: I know I've asked this before on the AHEAD list but I don't think I have here. If so, please accept my apologies for the repeat post. Currently, we have a camera system for monitoring our students in the testing center. On the computers, we have a program called SentryPC, which logs everything on the computers -- keystrokes, sites visited, programs open, etc. With this program, I can block access to certain sites. Problem is that it is always killed off by Symantec Antivirus (despite exceptions), the web interface is not very accessible (I am a blind screen reader user), and a host of other issues. I am trying to find other solutions, because my administration is reluctant to get rid of this program until I find a replacement. What are folks using to monitor their testing computers? Ultimately, it should not interfere with any assistive technology, including screen readers, which I would imagine the browser lockdown programs probably do. Looking forward to whatever people have to say on this matter. Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. 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On the computers, we have a program called SentryPC, which logs everything on the computers -- keystrokes, sites visited, programs open, etc. With this program, I can block access to certain sites. Problem is that it is always killed off by Symantec Antivirus (despite exceptions), the web interface is not very accessible (I am a blind screen reader user), and a host of other issues. I am trying to find other solutions, because my administration is reluctant to get rid of this program until I find a replacement. What are folks using to monitor their testing computers? Ultimately, it should not interfere with any assistive technology, including screen readers, which I would imagine the browser lockdown programs probably do. Looking forward to whatever people have to say on this matter. Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Shaun.Hegney at sfcc.spokane.edu Thu Aug 30 10:41:35 2018 From: Shaun.Hegney at sfcc.spokane.edu (Hegney, Shaun) Date: Sat Sep 1 08:08:27 2018 Subject: [Athen] Alternate format textbook sources Message-ID: Hello all, I am doing a little research as I am trying to find more sources for alternate format textbooks as it seems like our college is using less common or harder to get books. Especially as we add increasingly niche courses. I have been sourcing most of my books from Access Text, Book Share and publishers directly. I have also used the Louis Database (I have found a few braille books this way). 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