From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Mon Jul 1 05:30:02 2019 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Mon Jul 1 05:30:14 2019 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Who is Heading to AHEAD 2019 Boston? In-Reply-To: <504CD6461379E346B2BB6493EFED9717016BE1BC59@MB-02.bhcc.dom> References: <504CD6461379E346B2BB6493EFED9717016BE1BC59@MB-02.bhcc.dom> Message-ID: I will be there. I'm not sure just what my schedule will be yet, but I'll be there. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Kenneth Elkind Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:17 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [EXT][Athen] Who is Heading to AHEAD 2019 Boston? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I would like to invite anybody that is coming and get together. I have always wanted to go to common ground and attend the annual meeting was not feasible. Cheers! Kenneth Elkind Disability Support Services Bunker Hill Community College 250 Rutherford Ave Charletown,MA 02129 617-228-2234 kelkind@bhcc.mass.edu Disability Support Services Website http://www.bhcc.edu/disabilitysupportservices/ Test Request Form https://bunkerhillcc.us2.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_42hfNlyGZzgC5fv -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sherylb at uw.edu Mon Jul 1 07:16:14 2019 From: sherylb at uw.edu (Sheryl E. Burgstahler) Date: Mon Jul 1 07:16:36 2019 Subject: [Athen] Who is Heading to AHEAD 2019 Boston? In-Reply-To: References: <504CD6461379E346B2BB6493EFED9717016BE1BC59@MB-02.bhcc.dom> Message-ID: <0A8C9FF8-9F1B-4101-9407-484F7DA967E8@uw.edu> For those of you attending AHEAD, please join us for our Technology SIG meeting 12:45-1:45 Thursday. We will continue to explore ways ATHEN and AHEAD members can work together to, among other things, promote collaboration between campus disability services and IT accessibility groups and offer training to meet the needs of multiple stakeholders on our campuses. Hope to see you there. Sheryl Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu > On Jun 26, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Sheryl E. Burgstahler wrote: > > I?ll be there as will Lyla Crawford from UW. > Sheryl > > Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. > Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT > Affiliate Professor, Education > University of Washington, Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 > http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb > sherylb@uw.edu > >> On Jun 20, 2019, at 12:16 PM, Kenneth Elkind > wrote: >> >> I would like to invite anybody that is coming and get together. I have always wanted to go to common ground and attend the annual meeting was not feasible. >> >> Cheers! >> >> Kenneth Elkind >> Disability Support Services >> Bunker Hill Community College >> 250 Rutherford Ave >> Charletown,MA 02129 >> 617-228-2234 >> kelkind@bhcc.mass.edu >> >> Disability Support Services Website >> http://www.bhcc.edu/disabilitysupportservices/ >> Test Request Form >> https://bunkerhillcc.us2.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_42hfNlyGZzgC5fv >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lbencomo at uccs.edu Mon Jul 1 08:43:46 2019 From: lbencomo at uccs.edu (Leyna Bencomo) Date: Mon Jul 1 08:44:03 2019 Subject: [Athen] Introducing myself to the group In-Reply-To: References: <5d14f40b.1c69fb81.38d78.a81a@mx.google.com> <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF03073F5AEE@MB3.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: I am not a screen reader user but I also see this bias in myself and in web developers. Screen reader software seems to be the most obvious way to show inaccessibility in webpages so it is addressed first. Other features often take a back seat. We all need to be sure that the entire problem is addressed. Debee, thank you for speaking up. Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ -----Original Message----- From: athen-list On Behalf Of Stephen (Alex) Marositz Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 10:29 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Introducing myself to the group Hello Tyler I couldn't agree with Debra more. Although I am a screen reader user myself, most of my career has been spent learning about and working with various learning styles, cognitive disabilities and study strategies because that is the population of students we serve most often in higher ed. And, in fact, those skills are translatable when you are working with someone with a sensory impairment, not the other way around. I would even take it one step further, when I am working with a vendor evaluating a product for accessibility, I go out of my way to not let them know I use a screen reader whenever possible. Not because I am being deceptive, but because I am evaluating the product for the campus community, not for screen reader users. As Debra said, ask questions and keep engaged. It is how we all learn. Stephen Alexander (Alex) Marositz J.D. CPACC Accessible Technology Initiative Coordinator Information Technology Services, California State University Dominguez Hills (310)243-3077 -----Original Message----- From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:30 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Introducing myself to the group Welcome Tyler. There are many visually impaired people in this field, including myself. One thing I have noticed though with some blind and visually impaired access technology folks is how they give their own disability a higher priority. It's very important that we work just as hard to serve people with different limitations and different learning styles. For example, when I'm asked if a website is accessible, I always say that I've tried it and it's easy to use for a screen reader user, or that a screen reader user can work with it but it's not that easy. I'm not a web expert and I also don't know the challenges other disabilities will find with a site, so I try to never say something is or is not accessible. (There are blind people who are accessibility experts of course ... it's fine for them to give opinions backed up by knowledge.) But as an end user I can only state whether a site works for me or not. For another example, I try hard to learn about technologies I don't use, like Dragon and eye control. Since you are just starting your career, I wanted to state my opinion here because I want access technology and accessibility in general to remain inclusive. We blind folks are sometimes the loudest voice in the room and we need to use our strength to support everyone! OK, but now I've kicked over the soap box and I also want to say you should never be afraid to ask for help. I ask lots of dumb questions on the mailing lists! --Debee -----Original Message----- From: athen-list On Behalf Of Tyler Shepard Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:51 AM To: athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Introducing myself to the group Hi all, I have replied to some of the messages on this thread but I never truly introduced myself to the group. Here it goes. My name is Tyler Shepard and I am new to the world of assistive technology as a career. I graduated from the University of Washington in 2017 and spent one year at the same institution in their disability support office. It should be noted that I am blind and use a screen reader and I learned allot at the university of Washington's Disability Resources for Students office.? There I learned I want to make this a career because I have seen how impactful it can be first hand. As I write this I am looking for a job in accessibility focusing on either higher education or accessibility consulting. I hope to find fulltime work very soon. I am on linkedin if you would like to look me up, I would be happy to connect with people in the accessibility and higher education indistries and share ideas and articles there too. I thank you for your time. Hope you are well, Tyler Shepard linkedin: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Ftyler-shepard-8012b726%2F&data=02%7C01%7Clbencomo%40uccs.edu%7C335ee914c42048035ba908d6fbe65249%7C529343fae8c8419fab2ea70c10038810%7C1%7C0%7C636973363991347371&sdata=%2F73ooqolV7PCNZlytwqD%2FkkznS39SiGDgigacDdFYkM%3D&reserved=0= _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman12.u.washington.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fathen-list&data=02%7C01%7Clbencomo%40uccs.edu%7C335ee914c42048035ba908d6fbe65249%7C529343fae8c8419fab2ea70c10038810%7C1%7C0%7C636973363991347371&sdata=uNv2GnPzvGb%2BYQnPvS4scY%2Fck2S3d%2BFAYh7DFUzDL%2Fc%3D&reserved=0= _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman12.u.washington.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fathen-list&data=02%7C01%7Clbencomo%40uccs.edu%7C335ee914c42048035ba908d6fbe65249%7C529343fae8c8419fab2ea70c10038810%7C1%7C0%7C636973363991347371&sdata=uNv2GnPzvGb%2BYQnPvS4scY%2Fck2S3d%2BFAYh7DFUzDL%2Fc%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman12.u.washington.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fathen-list&data=02%7C01%7Clbencomo%40uccs.edu%7C335ee914c42048035ba908d6fbe65249%7C529343fae8c8419fab2ea70c10038810%7C1%7C0%7C636973363991347371&sdata=uNv2GnPzvGb%2BYQnPvS4scY%2Fck2S3d%2BFAYh7DFUzDL%2Fc%3D&reserved=0 From bossley.5 at osu.edu Tue Jul 2 08:14:50 2019 From: bossley.5 at osu.edu (Bossley, Peter A.) Date: Tue Jul 2 08:15:33 2019 Subject: [Athen] web accessibility testing which include native screen reader users In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Knowbility has an Access Works program that provides compensated end-users in a given assistive technology for testing as well as their own expert testing. https://knowbility.org (not affiliated with them in any way other than being an occasional tester in their program.) [The Ohio State University] Peter Bossley Deputy ADA Coordinator ADA Coordinator's Office Office of University Compliance and Integrity 950 Lincoln Tower, 1800 Cannon Drive, Columbus, OH 43210 614-688-3028 Office bossley.5@osu.edu / ada.osu.edu ________________________________ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Corrine Schoeb Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 9:31 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] web accessibility testing which include native screen reader users Hi all, I'm looking for resources that I might point vendors toward when they ask me about web testing. I have provided several browser tools, how to keyboard test and always ask for the results of their screen reader test. Many do the first but not the second or third and I'd like to be able to point them to a few reliable resources where they can hire folks for testing and then provide us with the results. I'm pretty sure Deque and perhaps WebAIM offer these services, are there others? -- Corrine Schoeb Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS 610-957-6208 *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including by email. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and the security of our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 3605 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From llewis at paciellogroup.com Tue Jul 2 08:34:39 2019 From: llewis at paciellogroup.com (Larry L. Lewis, Jr.) Date: Tue Jul 2 08:34:27 2019 Subject: [Athen] web accessibility testing which include native screen reader users In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004d01d530eb$a9bc85d0$fd359170$@paciellogroup.com> Greetings: I would encourage you to check out JAWS Inspect . This is a fantastic visual tool for individuals who test web content for those who use the JAWS for Windows screenreader. This tool visualizes Jaws output for a sighted tester or web developer, associating transcripts of what the screenreader speaks with corresponding screenshots and code snippets for testers and developers to review. It?s a one of a kind testing tool which demonstrates an immediate impact on accessibility with rapid roll-out and minimal training. Check out this video of the product in action! And feel free to contact me off-list for more information. Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Corrine Schoeb Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 9:31 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] web accessibility testing which include native screen reader users Hi all, I'm looking for resources that I might point vendors toward when they ask me about web testing. I have provided several browser tools, how to keyboard test and always ask for the results of their screen reader test. Many do the first but not the second or third and I'd like to be able to point them to a few reliable resources where they can hire folks for testing and then provide us with the results. I'm pretty sure Deque and perhaps WebAIM offer these services, are there others? -- Corrine Schoeb Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS 610-957-6208 *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including by email. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and the security of our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image005.png Type: image/png Size: 14162 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From chagnon at pubcom.com Wed Jul 3 22:10:43 2019 From: chagnon at pubcom.com (chagnon@pubcom.com) Date: Wed Jul 3 22:12:03 2019 Subject: [Athen] Adobe for Creative Cloud In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <011601d53226$d4e08e50$7ea1aaf0$@pubcom.com> First, Adobe's Creative Cloud (CC) suite of software programs are not cloud software. It's a subscription to their software programs which are installed on your computer, not run in the cloud. The CC suite includes all of the creative and design programs from Adobe, including Acrobat Pro DC, so your existing standalone license of Acrobat Pro DC won't be needed anymore. You'll use the version that comes with the CC suite. And it's identical to what you're using now. Here's a list of the programs that come with the CC subscription: includes graphic design, Photoshop, digital media, fonts, and more. https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/features.html So why is it called "creative cloud?" Haven't a clue, but I think someone in marketing thought is sounded cute. There are some cloud-based services, but they're relatively minor and don't affect Acrobat. -Bevi Chagnon ACP - Adobe Community Professional - - - Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO | Bevi@PubCom.com - - - PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting . training . development . design . sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/ classes - - - Latest blog-newsletter - Accessibility Tips at www.PubCom.com/blog From: athen-list On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:14 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Adobe for Creative Cloud Hi all, I am getting a new desktop (Dell) as part of the University's refresh system (Windows 10). I use Adobe Acrobat Pro DC for text extraction. The University has a new "system" license for the Adobe for Creative Cloud and may not support my department's Adobe Acrobat Pro DC license. 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While I appreciate getting an updated computer (not a huge fan of Windows 10 yet), I often time lose some programs I use frequently and have to contact vendors to reinstate the individual license. I am glad the University is covering the cost of the Adobe Creative Cloud, as I had to recently renew my JAWS and Zoom Text network licenses. My department has been asking for several years to have a technology fund added to our yearly department operating funds, but keep getting denied. The license renewal can be several thousand dollars every couple of years with JAWS, Zoom Text and Kurzweil. Have a nice holiday weekend. Hope to see you this year at Accessing Higher Ground. I was not able to attend last years' conference. Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of chagnon@pubcom.com Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 1:10 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Adobe for Creative Cloud First, Adobe?s Creative Cloud (CC) suite of software programs are not cloud software. It?s a subscription to their software programs which are installed on your computer, not run in the cloud. The CC suite includes all of the creative and design programs from Adobe, including Acrobat Pro DC, so your existing standalone license of Acrobat Pro DC won?t be needed anymore. You?ll use the version that comes with the CC suite. And it?s identical to what you?re using now. Here?s a list of the programs that come with the CC subscription: includes graphic design, Photoshop, digital media, fonts, and more. https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/features.html Latest Creative Cloud version | Adobe Creative Cloud features www.adobe.com Read about the most recent updates to Adobe Creative Cloud, including new features, capabilites, and services included with your membership. So why is it called ?creative cloud?? Haven?t a clue, but I think someone in marketing thought is sounded cute. There are some cloud-based services, but they?re relatively minor and don?t affect Acrobat. ?Bevi Chagnon ACP ? Adobe Community Professional ? ? ? Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO | Bevi@PubCom.com ? ? ? PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting ? training ? development ? design ? sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes ? ? ? Latest blog-newsletter ? Accessibility Tips at www.PubCom.com/blog From: athen-list On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:14 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Adobe for Creative Cloud Hi all, I am getting a new desktop (Dell) as part of the University's refresh system (Windows 10). I use Adobe Acrobat Pro DC for text extraction. The University has a new "system" license for the Adobe for Creative Cloud and may not support my department's Adobe Acrobat Pro DC license. Is the version of Acrobat in the online Adobe Creative Cloud comparable to the Pro DC's functionality? Thanks. Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Gabriel.Merrell at oregonstate.edu Fri Jul 5 15:43:15 2019 From: Gabriel.Merrell at oregonstate.edu (Merrell, Gabriel) Date: Fri Jul 5 15:43:49 2019 Subject: [Athen] AT Manager opening - Oregon State University Message-ID: <395AC269F5972D4A93EA380B19DBE871015716D99E@ex5.oregonstate.edu> Hi all, Oregon State University has an opening for an Assistive Technology Manager in our Disability Access Services office. If you have any questions, I?m the search chair and am happy to chat. Disability Access Services (DAS) provides access and educational opportunities for students with disabilities. The person in this position provides ? Leadership in assistive technologies and services for students with disabilities needing technology based services ? Technical support for all DAS services ? Expertise and leadership in electronic access issues ? Provides technical support and training for hardware and software involved in institutional access and accommodations Additional responsibilities include ? Leadership for Alternative Formats (E-text, Braille) and Video Captioning programs ? Working with faculty and staff to determine tech interventions that assist in maintaining an accessible learning environment ? Promoting universal design in the electronic environment Closing date: 7/24/2019 Anticipated starting salary: $47,820-$62,000 Oregon State enrolls 32,000 with DAS serving over 1250 students. The main campus is located in Corvallis, 90 miles from Portland, 50 miles from the ocean, with the Oregon Coast Mountains in our backyard. Corvallis is often recognized for being a top 100 place to live (currently #3) as well as a top ranked college town. https://jobs.oregonstate.edu/postings/79372 ________________________________ Gabriel Merrell | Director, Access and Affirmative Action Deputy ADA Coordinator Office of Equal Opportunity and Access Oregon State University p: 541.737.3671 http://eoa.oregonstate.edu http://oregonstate.edu/accessibility/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kschoeb1 at swarthmore.edu Mon Jul 8 11:45:02 2019 From: kschoeb1 at swarthmore.edu (Corrine Schoeb) Date: Mon Jul 8 11:45:47 2019 Subject: [Athen] DocLD - doc type and access Message-ID: Hi all, I've not heard do this doctype before but we had a publisher who offered to provide us with a book in this format for a student with blindness. Based on what the publisher said, DocLD provides a more robust description of any imagery including charts and graphs. Do any of you have experience with this doctype? Do you know what tools can access it? -- Corrine Schoeb Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS 610-957-6208 *** Swarthmore College ITS will *never* ask you for your password, including by email. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and the security of our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Mon Jul 8 11:56:23 2019 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Mon Jul 8 11:56:46 2019 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] DocLD - doc type and access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hmmm, that?s a new one on me. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Corrine Schoeb Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 1:45 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [EXT][Athen] DocLD - doc type and access CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hi all, I've not heard do this doctype before but we had a publisher who offered to provide us with a book in this format for a student with blindness. Based on what the publisher said, DocLD provides a more robust description of any imagery including charts and graphs. Do any of you have experience with this doctype? Do you know what tools can access it? -- Corrine Schoeb Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS 610-957-6208 *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including by email. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and the security of our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Mon Jul 8 12:00:25 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Mon Jul 8 12:00:45 2019 Subject: [Athen] DocLD - doc type and access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I sure haven?t heard of this. I would be asking a lot more questions and asking for a sample to try. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Corrine Schoeb Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 12:45 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] DocLD - doc type and access Hi all, I've not heard do this doctype before but we had a publisher who offered to provide us with a book in this format for a student with blindness. Based on what the publisher said, DocLD provides a more robust description of any imagery including charts and graphs. Do any of you have experience with this doctype? Do you know what tools can access it? -- Corrine Schoeb Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS 610-957-6208 *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including by email. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and the security of our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kerscher at montana.com Mon Jul 8 13:00:53 2019 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Mon Jul 8 13:01:11 2019 Subject: [Athen] DocLD - doc type and access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009f01d535c7$d92ac300$8b804900$@montana.com> Not heard of this either. Perhaps it is an internal term this publisher uses. Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 1:00 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] DocLD - doc type and access I sure haven?t heard of this. I would be asking a lot more questions and asking for a sample to try. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Corrine Schoeb Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 12:45 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] DocLD - doc type and access Hi all, I've not heard do this doctype before but we had a publisher who offered to provide us with a book in this format for a student with blindness. Based on what the publisher said, DocLD provides a more robust description of any imagery including charts and graphs. Do any of you have experience with this doctype? Do you know what tools can access it? -- Corrine Schoeb Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS 610-957-6208 *** Swarthmore College ITS will never ask you for your password, including by email. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and the security of our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From todd.schwanke at wisc.edu Wed Jul 10 05:35:47 2019 From: todd.schwanke at wisc.edu (Todd Schwanke) Date: Wed Jul 10 05:36:03 2019 Subject: [Athen] =?windows-1252?q?Job_Posting=3A_Accessible_Learning_Techn?= =?windows-1252?q?ology_Coordinator_at_University_of_Wisconsin_=96_Madison?= Message-ID: Dear ATHEN Colleagues: Please feel free to share with groups/candidates you think may be interested. Applications for this position close this Friday. The McBurney Disability Resource Center at the University of Wisconsin ? Madison is excited to announce an opening for an Accessible Learning Technology Coordinator (ALTC). The ALTC works with a dedicated team of professional and student staff to provide notetaking accommodations (including notetaking technologies), furniture accommodations, alternative formats (document conversion), and media captioning. This position runs the daily operations of notetaking and furniture accommodations, assists with the conversion of materials into alternative formats, and works with other areas to ensure equal access for students with disabilities. It also includes work with assistive technology, student/instructor consultations, digital accessibility, universal design in instructional materials, and campus outreach. We value the contributions of each person and respect the profound ways their identity, culture, background, experience, status, abilities, and opinion enrich the university community, and are looking for qualified candidates who will continue to move UW-Madison Forward in Access. Review the posting and apply online (https://jobs.hr.wisc.edu/en-us/job/501786/accessible-learning-technology-coordinator) Applications close at 11:55PM (CDT) on Friday, July 12, 2019. Thank you, Todd Schwanke (pronouns: he/him) Access Consultant / Associate Director of Accommodations & Technology McBurney Disability Resource Center University of Wisconsin - Madison (voice) (608) 263-2741 [front desk] (text) (608) 225-7956 [front desk] www.mcburney.wisc.edu McBurney Connect (Students can apply for and make accommodation selections; instructors can view Faculty Notification Letters online) [ATHEN] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jongund at illinois.edu Wed Jul 10 10:55:36 2019 From: jongund at illinois.edu (Gunderson, Jon R) Date: Wed Jul 10 10:56:03 2019 Subject: [Athen] Explore the fundamentals of accessibility and inclusive design from the University of Illinois In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is a good course for administrators, designers, developers and educators who are new to accessibility to help them understand the issues related to disability access to technology. "An Introduction to Accessibility & Inclusive Design" introduces some of the fundamental principles of accessibility and prepares learners for further study in accessibility and inclusive design. Learners will have an opportunity to explore the major types of disabilities and related assistive technology and adaptive strategies, the most salient contours of the legal landscape, and major principles that guide universal design and accessible content creation. Spotlight guest videos will highlight firsthand perspectives on disability, as well as topics like disability etiquette, universal design and universal design for learning, accommodation in higher education, campus accessibility policy, and accessibility in a corporate setting. Course Catalog Link: https://www.coursera.org/learn/accessibility NOTE: The course can be audited at no cost and there is also a paid option for exams to be graded and to earn a certificate. 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Specifically, I would like to ask your permission to link your Module 1 Understanding Disability & Assistive Technology to my DSSV606 AT in Higher Ed class. I would like to make a link to your Module 1 a required off-site (off OUR site!) assignment. I provide hundreds of links to colleges all over the US with resources related accessibility, AT, high tech, low tech, smart phone and iDevice apps, hardware, software, budget development, alternative text production, captioning, video & audio description (all are best practices resources) throughout the semester. A link to your first module would be one of these, if you're willing! Let me know if this is possible, feasible, acceptable. You all have done a really comprehensive job with this. Let me know if a link is possible! Thanks in advance Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:56 AM Gunderson, Jon R wrote: > This is a good course for administrators, designers, developers and > educators who are new to accessibility to help them understand the issues > related to disability access to technology. > > > > ?An Introduction to Accessibility & Inclusive Design? introduces some of > the fundamental principles of accessibility and prepares learners for > further study in accessibility and inclusive design. Learners will have an > opportunity to explore the major types of disabilities and related > assistive technology and adaptive strategies, the most salient contours of > the legal landscape, and major principles that guide universal design and > accessible content creation. Spotlight guest videos will highlight > firsthand perspectives on disability, as well as topics like disability > etiquette, universal design and universal design for learning, > accommodation in higher education, campus accessibility policy, and > accessibility in a corporate setting. > > > > Course Catalog Link: https://www.coursera.org/learn/accessibility > > > > NOTE: The course can be audited at no cost and there is also a paid option > for exams to be graded and to earn a certificate. > > > > > > Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., CPWA > > Coordinator of Accessible IT Group > > University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign > > 1207 S. Oak Street > > Champaign, IL 61820 > > > > www: https://go.illinois.edu/jongund > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com Thu Jul 11 06:10:30 2019 From: krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com (Krista Greear) Date: Thu Jul 11 06:10:44 2019 Subject: [Athen] Who is Heading to AHEAD 2019 Boston? In-Reply-To: <0A8C9FF8-9F1B-4101-9407-484F7DA967E8@uw.edu> References: <504CD6461379E346B2BB6493EFED9717016BE1BC59@MB-02.bhcc.dom> <0A8C9FF8-9F1B-4101-9407-484F7DA967E8@uw.edu> Message-ID: Today's the Tech SIG! Sadly, I'll be presenting during our meeting time (12:45-1:45 pm Eastern). As a representative from the ATHEN Executive Council, we would love to hear what ATHEN needs from AHEAD and what AHEAD needs from ATHEN. I'm hoping to get some good notes as I have particular interest in this discussion. Thanks! Krista -- Krista Greear Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader ATHEN Executive Council Vice President Access Technology Higher Education Network On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 10:22 AM Sheryl E. Burgstahler wrote: > For those of you attending AHEAD, please join us for our Technology SIG > meeting 12:45-1:45 Thursday. We will continue to explore ways ATHEN and > AHEAD members can work together to, among other things, promote > collaboration between campus disability services and IT accessibility > groups and offer training to meet the needs of multiple stakeholders on our > campuses. > > Hope to see you there. > > Sheryl > > Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. > Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT > Affiliate Professor, Education > University of Washington, Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 > http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb > sherylb@uw.edu > > On Jun 26, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Sheryl E. Burgstahler > wrote: > > I?ll be there as will Lyla Crawford from UW. > Sheryl > > Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. > Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT > Affiliate Professor, Education > University of Washington, Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 > http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb > sherylb@uw.edu > > On Jun 20, 2019, at 12:16 PM, Kenneth Elkind > wrote: > > I would like to invite anybody that is coming and get together. I have > always wanted to go to common ground and attend the annual meeting was not > feasible. > > Cheers! > > Kenneth Elkind > Disability Support Services > Bunker Hill Community College > 250 Rutherford Ave > Charletown,MA 02129 > 617-228-2234 > kelkind@bhcc.mass.edu > > Disability Support Services Website > http://www.bhcc.edu/disabilitysupportservices/ > Test Request Form > https://bunkerhillcc.us2.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_42hfNlyGZzgC5fv > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer at ahead.org Thu Jul 11 06:28:44 2019 From: hkramer at ahead.org (Howard Kramer) Date: Thu Jul 11 06:29:20 2019 Subject: [Athen] Who is Heading to AHEAD 2019 Boston? In-Reply-To: <0A8C9FF8-9F1B-4101-9407-484F7DA967E8@uw.edu> References: <504CD6461379E346B2BB6493EFED9717016BE1BC59@MB-02.bhcc.dom> <0A8C9FF8-9F1B-4101-9407-484F7DA967E8@uw.edu> Message-ID: Sheryl, Do you know the room? -Howard On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 10:17 AM Sheryl E. Burgstahler wrote: > For those of you attending AHEAD, please join us for our Technology SIG > meeting 12:45-1:45 Thursday. We will continue to explore ways ATHEN and > AHEAD members can work together to, among other things, promote > collaboration between campus disability services and IT accessibility > groups and offer training to meet the needs of multiple stakeholders on our > campuses. > > Hope to see you there. > > Sheryl > > Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. > Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT > Affiliate Professor, Education > University of Washington, Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 > http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb > sherylb@uw.edu > > On Jun 26, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Sheryl E. Burgstahler > wrote: > > I?ll be there as will Lyla Crawford from UW. > Sheryl > > Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. > Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT > Affiliate Professor, Education > University of Washington, Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 > http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb > sherylb@uw.edu > > On Jun 20, 2019, at 12:16 PM, Kenneth Elkind > wrote: > > I would like to invite anybody that is coming and get together. I have > always wanted to go to common ground and attend the annual meeting was not > feasible. > > Cheers! > > Kenneth Elkind > Disability Support Services > Bunker Hill Community College > 250 Rutherford Ave > Charletown,MA 02129 > 617-228-2234 > kelkind@bhcc.mass.edu > > Disability Support Services Website > http://www.bhcc.edu/disabilitysupportservices/ > Test Request Form > https://bunkerhillcc.us2.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_42hfNlyGZzgC5fv > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Regards, Howard Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 Join us for the *Accessing Higher Ground Conference * in Westminster, Colorado, Nov 18-22, 2019. Request for proposals will be announced mid-March. Complete program information and registration is open for our full line-up of webinars, *AHEADtoYOU! * And the *Technology Access Series *. Site capacities for all webinar events is limited; please register at your earliest convenience for the largest selection. Not yet a member of AHEAD? *We welcome you to join AHEAD now. * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sherylb at uw.edu Thu Jul 11 07:33:46 2019 From: sherylb at uw.edu (Sheryl E. Burgstahler) Date: Thu Jul 11 07:34:10 2019 Subject: [Athen] Who is Heading to AHEAD 2019 Boston? In-Reply-To: References: <504CD6461379E346B2BB6493EFED9717016BE1BC59@MB-02.bhcc.dom> <0A8C9FF8-9F1B-4101-9407-484F7DA967E8@uw.edu> Message-ID: The Tech SIG meets at 12:45 today in the Stone room. Join us for some serious (and not so serious) planning. How can our AHEAD Tech SIG best serve its members as well as engage with the AHEAD Online and Distance Learning and other SIGs? ATHEN, EDUCAUSE, and other professional organizations? Accessing Higher Ground, CSUN conference on assistive technology and other conferences? others???? Sheryl, Tech SIG Chair Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu > On Jul 11, 2019, at 6:28 AM, Howard Kramer wrote: > > Sheryl, > > Do you know the room? > > -Howard > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 10:17 AM Sheryl E. Burgstahler > wrote: > For those of you attending AHEAD, please join us for our Technology SIG meeting 12:45-1:45 Thursday. We will continue to explore ways ATHEN and AHEAD members can work together to, among other things, promote collaboration between campus disability services and IT accessibility groups and offer training to meet the needs of multiple stakeholders on our campuses. > > Hope to see you there. > > Sheryl > > Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. > Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT > Affiliate Professor, Education > University of Washington, Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 > http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb > sherylb@uw.edu >> On Jun 26, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Sheryl E. Burgstahler > wrote: >> >> I?ll be there as will Lyla Crawford from UW. >> Sheryl >> >> Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. >> Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT >> Affiliate Professor, Education >> University of Washington, Box 354842 >> Seattle, WA 98195 >> 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 >> http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb >> sherylb@uw.edu >>> On Jun 20, 2019, at 12:16 PM, Kenneth Elkind > wrote: >>> >>> I would like to invite anybody that is coming and get together. I have always wanted to go to common ground and attend the annual meeting was not feasible. >>> >>> Cheers! >>> >>> Kenneth Elkind >>> Disability Support Services >>> Bunker Hill Community College >>> 250 Rutherford Ave >>> Charletown,MA 02129 >>> 617-228-2234 >>> kelkind@bhcc.mass.edu >>> >>> Disability Support Services Website >>> http://www.bhcc.edu/disabilitysupportservices/ >>> Test Request Form >>> https://bunkerhillcc.us2.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_42hfNlyGZzgC5fv >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > -- > Regards, > Howard > > Howard Kramer > Conference Coordinator > Accessing Higher Ground > 303-492-8672 > cell: 720-351-8668 > > Join us for the Accessing Higher Ground?Conference in Westminster, Colorado, Nov 18-22, 2019. Request for proposals will be announced mid-March. > > Complete program information and registration is open for our full line-up of webinars, AHEADtoYOU! And the Technology Access Series . Site capacities for all webinar events is limited; please register at your earliest convenience for the largest selection. > > Not yet a member of AHEAD? We welcome you to join AHEAD now. > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All the best, Marc Marc Thompson, Ph.D. Assistant Director for Teaching & Learning Experiences Program Director, Information Accessibility Design & Policy Center for Innovation in Teaching & Learning University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 505 East Armory Avenue | MC-528 Champaign, IL 61820 Tel: 217-244-0957 | Fax: 217-333-8524 1-800-252-1360 ext. 40957 thompso1@illinois.edu [University of Illinois logo] Under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act any written communication to or from university employees regarding university business is a public record and may be subject to public disclosure. On Jul 10, 2019, at 1:58 PM, Wink Harner > wrote: Hi Jon, So glad the link to your fundamentals course showed up in today's email! I'm teaching one of the core courses at CUNY for their MA in Disability Studies program, to wit, Assistive technology in higher education. I'm always on the lookout for good foundational material to refer students to. I teach this course both fall & spring at CUNY and it is a required core course for the degree. Specifically, I would like to ask your permission to link your Module 1 Understanding Disability & Assistive Technology to my DSSV606 AT in Higher Ed class. I would like to make a link to your Module 1 a required off-site (off OUR site!) assignment. I provide hundreds of links to colleges all over the US with resources related accessibility, AT, high tech, low tech, smart phone and iDevice apps, hardware, software, budget development, alternative text production, captioning, video & audio description (all are best practices resources) throughout the semester. A link to your first module would be one of these, if you're willing! Let me know if this is possible, feasible, acceptable. You all have done a really comprehensive job with this. Let me know if a link is possible! Thanks in advance Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:56 AM Gunderson, Jon R > wrote: This is a good course for administrators, designers, developers and educators who are new to accessibility to help them understand the issues related to disability access to technology. ?An Introduction to Accessibility & Inclusive Design? introduces some of the fundamental principles of accessibility and prepares learners for further study in accessibility and inclusive design. Learners will have an opportunity to explore the major types of disabilities and related assistive technology and adaptive strategies, the most salient contours of the legal landscape, and major principles that guide universal design and accessible content creation. Spotlight guest videos will highlight firsthand perspectives on disability, as well as topics like disability etiquette, universal design and universal design for learning, accommodation in higher education, campus accessibility policy, and accessibility in a corporate setting. Course Catalog Link: https://www.coursera.org/learn/accessibility NOTE: The course can be audited at no cost and there is also a paid option for exams to be graded and to earn a certificate. Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., CPWA Coordinator of Accessible IT Group University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign 1207 S. Oak Street Champaign, IL 61820 www: https://go.illinois.edu/jongund _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Thu Jul 11 13:56:58 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Thu Jul 11 13:57:23 2019 Subject: [Athen] Change to Sharepoint that affects alt media Message-ID: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF0307401B50@MB3.FHDA.LEARN> If you use SharePoint to deliver files to students, you'll be happy to know that PDF files can now be viewed online without requiring they be downloaded and saved. Previously, a PDF hosted on sharepoint needed to be locally saved before the user could view, edit or share it. Last week after over one thousand user voice requests, Microsoft finally implemented the feature that lets users skip the saving process. Of course, if your student needs access technology, the PDF still must be saved first, but sometimes students just want to look at and/or search through a batch of PDFS without storing them locally. This should be especially useful for students using those free, limited memory cellphones. Source: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-adobe-deliver-on-a-three-year-old-office-365-customer-request/ --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Doesn't sound like it. https://sites.ed.gov/idea/about-idea/ -- Jiatyan Chen From lissner.2 at osu.edu Tue Jul 16 09:33:14 2019 From: lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, Scott) Date: Tue Jul 16 09:34:21 2019 Subject: [Athen] 21st Century IDEA Act In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <9BE59ED5-DB24-40E6-83D7-9A08C1C45CDA@osu.edu> The 21st Century Integrated Digital Experience Act (IDEA), applies to federal agencies (not fund recipients) who have until December to deliver a compliance plan to Congress. Below is a link to the text of the act. https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5759/text L. Scott Lissner, The Ohio State University ADA Coordinator and 504 Compliance Officer Associate, John Glenn School of Public Affairs Lecturer, Knowlton School of Architecture, Moritz College of Law & Disability Studies (614) 292-6207(v); (614) 688-8605(tty) (614) 688-3665(fax); Http://ada.osu.edu 21 East 11th Ave., Columbus, Ohio. 43210 On Jul 16, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Jiatyan Chen > wrote: On 16 Jul 2019, at 06:07, Christine Robinson > wrote: Can anyone provide more information on this? Particularly, are higher ed institutions included? Doesn't sound like it. https://sites.ed.gov/idea/about-idea/ -- Jiatyan Chen _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jiatyan at stanford.edu Tue Jul 16 11:06:54 2019 From: jiatyan at stanford.edu (Jiatyan Chen) Date: Tue Jul 16 11:07:07 2019 Subject: [Athen] 21st Century IDEA Act In-Reply-To: <9BE59ED5-DB24-40E6-83D7-9A08C1C45CDA@osu.edu> References: <9BE59ED5-DB24-40E6-83D7-9A08C1C45CDA@osu.edu> Message-ID: <94CB389D-3703-4CF2-9BE2-3F16988D7630@stanford.edu> Thanks, Scott. I stand corrected. From krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com Wed Jul 17 08:20:39 2019 From: krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com (Krista Greear) Date: Wed Jul 17 08:21:29 2019 Subject: [Athen] is Microsoft track changes accessible? Message-ID: Asking on behalf of a client. Does anyone know or have experience with the current accessibilty of Microsoft's track changes? A specific version was not mentioned. I'd expect it to be more accessible in MS 2019 compared to 2010. Thanks! -- Krista Greear Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader ATHEN Executive Council Vice President Access Technology Higher Education Network -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Wed Jul 17 08:21:55 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Wed Jul 17 08:22:40 2019 Subject: [Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT Message-ID: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Curious about others' opinions here. Over the years I've had a variety of deans, supervisors, bosses. Each time we switch to new management priorities change. One boss will want us to spend money when we have it and buy as much equipment as possible. Another boss wants to clean out and throw away everything we haven't used in a few years. One boss worries about accommodating every student while another boss only worries if a student complains. The current management is on a massive cleanup canpaign so everything I don't want to see thrown away has migrated to my office. I have piles of stuff we "might need" someday but haven't used in a while. Before I could stop it a thirteen-volume Braille textbook was thrown away that was only used one quarter. Last year they nearly threw away my PIAF machine because nobody had seen me using it - but I resurrected it in time. So when the cleanup started I grabbed stuff. Now I can hardly move I'm so - 'er' stuffed with stuff in my office! But maybe like some previous bosses, I myself am a hoarder. Maybe I need to just say goodbye and move on. I email other departments asking if they want some wacky thing, like a Braille atlas of the world or an ancient but still working CCTV and get no response. I surplused three perfectly working Braille embossers a few years ago simply because I no longer had convenient parallel or serial ports. I couldn't take it home because that would have been stealing but it was probably broken up for scrap metal. And just yesterday I threw away all our CD-based Daisy players because nobody has requested one in at least four years. I do tend to hoard because it has served me well before. One of my friends still uses a large-print French-English dictionary, a massive thing I found at a flea market for a dollar. No doubt some school surplused it. When I lost my job at TeleSensory, they were literally throwing Braille displays and Optacons in the dumpster. My husband and I snuck back after dark and loaded them in to our car. I gave away the Optacons to very grateful users and still use those displays today. But I was young and poorer then; I'm not going to grab stuff that doesn't belong to me, yet I hate to see it thrown out. Do you others tend to hang on to obsolete technology in case it might be needed? Or do you toss it out because after all you don't have space and don't want to hoard. And how do you make decisions about what to keep? --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Wed Jul 17 08:32:07 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Wed Jul 17 08:33:05 2019 Subject: [Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT In-Reply-To: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: Debee... Let it go! Seriously. Let some of it go. If you aren't actively using it, and haven't actively used it in 2 or more years, you do need to let it go. How many Braille embossers does one office need? We have two - our current Trident, and our backup Juliet 60 Pro. Why would we need another? I surplus things all the time. Then I don't let myself think about what may happen to it. If two years from now some student needs a piece of equipment we surplused, we'll just buy a new one. Technology changes so fast...the new one would likely have better/newer features. As for that Braille...I know it hurts to let it go, but by the time a student needs it again, there will be a new version of the book. It costs very little to emboss a new copy, just takes some time and a couple boxes of paper. Like I never kept returned CD's from students back in the day - it was easier to record new ones as needed, because the returned ones were often scratched or a disk or two would be missing. Just let it go. If it hasn't been used in two years, let it go. And if later the item has to be re-purchased, your leadership will have to know that it is their fault you don't have it. But if you're like me, your storage space is limited in the first place, so you have to make some tough choices, but you likely won't regret doing so. That's my 2 cents worth! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 9:22 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT Curious about others' opinions here. Over the years I've had a variety of deans, supervisors, bosses. Each time we switch to new management priorities change. One boss will want us to spend money when we have it and buy as much equipment as possible. Another boss wants to clean out and throw away everything we haven't used in a few years. One boss worries about accommodating every student while another boss only worries if a student complains. The current management is on a massive cleanup canpaign so everything I don't want to see thrown away has migrated to my office. I have piles of stuff we "might need" someday but haven't used in a while. Before I could stop it a thirteen-volume Braille textbook was thrown away that was only used one quarter. Last year they nearly threw away my PIAF machine because nobody had seen me using it - but I resurrected it in time. So when the cleanup started I grabbed stuff. Now I can hardly move I'm so - 'er' stuffed with stuff in my office! But maybe like some previous bosses, I myself am a hoarder. Maybe I need to just say goodbye and move on. I email other departments asking if they want some wacky thing, like a Braille atlas of the world or an ancient but still working CCTV and get no response. I surplused three perfectly working Braille embossers a few years ago simply because I no longer had convenient parallel or serial ports. I couldn't take it home because that would have been stealing but it was probably broken up for scrap metal. And just yesterday I threw away all our CD-based Daisy players because nobody has requested one in at least four years. I do tend to hoard because it has served me well before. One of my friends still uses a large-print French-English dictionary, a massive thing I found at a flea market for a dollar. No doubt some school surplused it. When I lost my job at TeleSensory, they were literally throwing Braille displays and Optacons in the dumpster. My husband and I snuck back after dark and loaded them in to our car. I gave away the Optacons to very grateful users and still use those displays today. But I was young and poorer then; I'm not going to grab stuff that doesn't belong to me, yet I hate to see it thrown out. Do you others tend to hang on to obsolete technology in case it might be needed? Or do you toss it out because after all you don't have space and don't want to hoard. And how do you make decisions about what to keep? --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Wed Jul 17 08:40:12 2019 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Wed Jul 17 08:40:21 2019 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Your opinions on keeping old AT In-Reply-To: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: I usually work first from the practical question, "Can it still work with the current technologies our campus is using?" Using this test, I have sent several pieces of technology to the recycle bins due to cable or other connectivity issues. In fact, I have an old embosser that will not work with current technologies so I am planning to send it off before the fall semester begins. Next, I ask, "Is this still viable technology or is there something newer and better?" Using this test, I have sent items to the recycle bins because (for example) students just don't use CD's any more. There is nno reason to hang on to a CD-based book player. Then, if there is technology that hasn't been used in a while, I ask myself, "If a student came in needing this resource, can this technology still provide the needed accommodation or will I need to purchase something newer and more advanced?" If the technology can still provide an accommodation, then I hang on to it. If it cannot or not effectively, then I remove it. Using these tests, I have sent PS2 adapters, 9-pin and 25-pin serial cables and adapters, devices that used such connections, and other outdated technologies away. I do still have a couple of CD-based book players in my cabinet, only because I haven't taken time to clean them out. But, soon, when I have nothing else to do, I will gather them up, along with their supporting documentation, and send them on their marry way. I also have an old (one of the original) Victor Streams that will probably go bye-bye too. It doesn't hardly hold a charge and my students all come in with devices that can provide access to their books, so it is not needed any longer. Just my two cents worth. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 10:22 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT][Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Curious about others' opinions here. Over the years I've had a variety of deans, supervisors, bosses. Each time we switch to new management priorities change. One boss will want us to spend money when we have it and buy as much equipment as possible. Another boss wants to clean out and throw away everything we haven't used in a few years. One boss worries about accommodating every student while another boss only worries if a student complains. The current management is on a massive cleanup canpaign so everything I don't want to see thrown away has migrated to my office. I have piles of stuff we "might need" someday but haven't used in a while. Before I could stop it a thirteen-volume Braille textbook was thrown away that was only used one quarter. Last year they nearly threw away my PIAF machine because nobody had seen me using it - but I resurrected it in time. So when the cleanup started I grabbed stuff. Now I can hardly move I'm so - 'er' stuffed with stuff in my office! But maybe like some previous bosses, I myself am a hoarder. Maybe I need to just say goodbye and move on. I email other departments asking if they want some wacky thing, like a Braille atlas of the world or an ancient but still working CCTV and get no response. I surplused three perfectly working Braille embossers a few years ago simply because I no longer had convenient parallel or serial ports. I couldn't take it home because that would have been stealing but it was probably broken up for scrap metal. And just yesterday I threw away all our CD-based Daisy players because nobody has requested one in at least four years. I do tend to hoard because it has served me well before. One of my friends still uses a large-print French-English dictionary, a massive thing I found at a flea market for a dollar. No doubt some school surplused it. When I lost my job at TeleSensory, they were literally throwing Braille displays and Optacons in the dumpster. My husband and I snuck back after dark and loaded them in to our car. I gave away the Optacons to very grateful users and still use those displays today. But I was young and poorer then; I'm not going to grab stuff that doesn't belong to me, yet I hate to see it thrown out. Do you others tend to hang on to obsolete technology in case it might be needed? Or do you toss it out because after all you don't have space and don't want to hoard. And how do you make decisions about what to keep? --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smarositz at csudh.edu Wed Jul 17 08:39:48 2019 From: smarositz at csudh.edu (Stephen (Alex) Marositz) Date: Wed Jul 17 08:40:23 2019 Subject: [Athen] is Microsoft track changes accessible? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Krista Yes, if you are referring to use with Jaws or NVDA, track changes is accessible, although it is verbose and a little ungainly to use. For jaws, FreedomScientific did a webinar a few years ago on how to use it. Here is the URL: https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/TrackChanges/02-WordTrackChangesWithJAWS.htm I hope this helps Stephen Alex Marositz ATI Coordinator CSUDH Ext 3077 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Krista Greear Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 8:21 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] is Microsoft track changes accessible? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of CSUDH. Do not click links or open attachments unless you validate the sender and know the content is safe. Please forward this email to iso@csudh.edu if you believe this email is suspicious. Asking on behalf of a client. Does anyone know or have experience with the current accessibility of Microsoft's track changes? A specific version was not mentioned. I'd expect it to be more accessible in MS 2019 compared to 2010. Thanks! -- Krista Greear Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader ATHEN Executive Council Vice President Access Technology Higher Education Network -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Wed Jul 17 08:54:05 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Wed Jul 17 08:54:42 2019 Subject: [Athen] is Microsoft track changes accessible? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EF8E@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> And they are promising to do a new webinar on track changes in September. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Stephen (Alex) Marositz Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 8:40 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] is Microsoft track changes accessible? Hi Krista Yes, if you are referring to use with Jaws or NVDA, track changes is accessible, although it is verbose and a little ungainly to use. For jaws, FreedomScientific did a webinar a few years ago on how to use it. Here is the URL: https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/TrackChanges/02-WordTrackChangesWithJAWS.htm I hope this helps Stephen Alex Marositz ATI Coordinator CSUDH Ext 3077 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Krista Greear Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 8:21 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] is Microsoft track changes accessible? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of CSUDH. Do not click links or open attachments unless you validate the sender and know the content is safe. Please forward this email to iso@csudh.edu if you believe this email is suspicious. Asking on behalf of a client. Does anyone know or have experience with the current accessibility of Microsoft's track changes? A specific version was not mentioned. I'd expect it to be more accessible in MS 2019 compared to 2010. Thanks! -- Krista Greear Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader ATHEN Executive Council Vice President Access Technology Higher Education Network -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neal.sorensen at mnsu.edu Wed Jul 17 09:21:13 2019 From: neal.sorensen at mnsu.edu (Sorensen, Neal B) Date: Wed Jul 17 09:21:44 2019 Subject: [Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT In-Reply-To: References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: I completely agree with Susan, get yourself a little elbow room and get rid of the old stuff. For the most part, you won't miss it. Over winter break, I was tasked with cleaning out the equipment closet which was packed FULL with stuff that has not been used in a LONG time... I mean it, we had JAWS and Dragon for Windows 3.1, a bunch of 4-track tape recorders, Victor readers that haven't been touched in years, and a lot of other gems. I also found some things that were quite interesting, like a TSI Speech+ talking calculator from 1975! The original price is taped on it too ($445!!!). I saved that one... It became obvious that no one had touched these in a very long time, some of it predated the office. But really, with the use of software-based AT we really don't need most of the older equipment. I gave a lot of stuff to surplus. A great deal of it could be recycled. Even the older edition Braille textbooks should be tossed, if someone needed the book it would have an updated edition anyway. Neal Sorensen (pronouns: he, him, his) Accessibility Resources Minnesota State University, Mankato 132 Memorial Library Mankato, MN 56001 Phone: (507) 389-5242 Fax: (507) 389-1199 www.mnsu.edu/access [cid:image004.png@01CF4281.A3698650] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply email so that our address record can be corrected. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 10:32 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT Debee... Let it go! Seriously. Let some of it go. If you aren't actively using it, and haven't actively used it in 2 or more years, you do need to let it go. How many Braille embossers does one office need? We have two - our current Trident, and our backup Juliet 60 Pro. Why would we need another? I surplus things all the time. Then I don't let myself think about what may happen to it. If two years from now some student needs a piece of equipment we surplused, we'll just buy a new one. Technology changes so fast...the new one would likely have better/newer features. As for that Braille...I know it hurts to let it go, but by the time a student needs it again, there will be a new version of the book. It costs very little to emboss a new copy, just takes some time and a couple boxes of paper. Like I never kept returned CD's from students back in the day - it was easier to record new ones as needed, because the returned ones were often scratched or a disk or two would be missing. Just let it go. If it hasn't been used in two years, let it go. And if later the item has to be re-purchased, your leadership will have to know that it is their fault you don't have it. But if you're like me, your storage space is limited in the first place, so you have to make some tough choices, but you likely won't regret doing so. That's my 2 cents worth! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 9:22 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT Curious about others' opinions here. Over the years I've had a variety of deans, supervisors, bosses. Each time we switch to new management priorities change. One boss will want us to spend money when we have it and buy as much equipment as possible. Another boss wants to clean out and throw away everything we haven't used in a few years. One boss worries about accommodating every student while another boss only worries if a student complains. The current management is on a massive cleanup canpaign so everything I don't want to see thrown away has migrated to my office. I have piles of stuff we "might need" someday but haven't used in a while. Before I could stop it a thirteen-volume Braille textbook was thrown away that was only used one quarter. Last year they nearly threw away my PIAF machine because nobody had seen me using it - but I resurrected it in time. So when the cleanup started I grabbed stuff. Now I can hardly move I'm so - 'er' stuffed with stuff in my office! But maybe like some previous bosses, I myself am a hoarder. Maybe I need to just say goodbye and move on. I email other departments asking if they want some wacky thing, like a Braille atlas of the world or an ancient but still working CCTV and get no response. I surplused three perfectly working Braille embossers a few years ago simply because I no longer had convenient parallel or serial ports. I couldn't take it home because that would have been stealing but it was probably broken up for scrap metal. And just yesterday I threw away all our CD-based Daisy players because nobody has requested one in at least four years. I do tend to hoard because it has served me well before. One of my friends still uses a large-print French-English dictionary, a massive thing I found at a flea market for a dollar. No doubt some school surplused it. When I lost my job at TeleSensory, they were literally throwing Braille displays and Optacons in the dumpster. My husband and I snuck back after dark and loaded them in to our car. I gave away the Optacons to very grateful users and still use those displays today. But I was young and poorer then; I'm not going to grab stuff that doesn't belong to me, yet I hate to see it thrown out. Do you others tend to hang on to obsolete technology in case it might be needed? Or do you toss it out because after all you don't have space and don't want to hoard. And how do you make decisions about what to keep? --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 7621 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From smarositz at csudh.edu Wed Jul 17 09:22:46 2019 From: smarositz at csudh.edu (Stephen (Alex) Marositz) Date: Wed Jul 17 09:23:57 2019 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Your opinions on keeping old AT In-Reply-To: References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: Hi Debee I pretty much agree with everything said here. The bottom line is Assistive Technology is an on-going service and it must be budgeted accordingly. Many if not most of our students first experience with AT is at the college level. A part of our role is to be as sales people for AT. If we hand a student something that appears ancient to them, they are not likely to use it in the present, and, more importantly, shun AT solutions in the future. Just my thoughts Stephen Alex Marositz ATI Coordinator CSUDH Ext 3077 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 8:40 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Your opinions on keeping old AT CAUTION: This email originated from outside of CSUDH. Do not click links or open attachments unless you validate the sender and know the content is safe. Please forward this email to iso@csudh.edu if you believe this email is suspicious. I usually work first from the practical question, "Can it still work with the current technologies our campus is using?" Using this test, I have sent several pieces of technology to the recycle bins due to cable or other connectivity issues. In fact, I have an old embosser that will not work with current technologies so I am planning to send it off before the fall semester begins. Next, I ask, "Is this still viable technology or is there something newer and better?" Using this test, I have sent items to the recycle bins because (for example) students just don't use CD's any more. There is nno reason to hang on to a CD-based book player. Then, if there is technology that hasn't been used in a while, I ask myself, "If a student came in needing this resource, can this technology still provide the needed accommodation or will I need to purchase something newer and more advanced?" If the technology can still provide an accommodation, then I hang on to it. If it cannot or not effectively, then I remove it. Using these tests, I have sent PS2 adapters, 9-pin and 25-pin serial cables and adapters, devices that used such connections, and other outdated technologies away. I do still have a couple of CD-based book players in my cabinet, only because I haven't taken time to clean them out. But, soon, when I have nothing else to do, I will gather them up, along with their supporting documentation, and send them on their marry way. I also have an old (one of the original) Victor Streams that will probably go bye-bye too. It doesn't hardly hold a charge and my students all come in with devices that can provide access to their books, so it is not needed any longer. Just my two cents worth. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 10:22 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [EXT][Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Curious about others' opinions here. Over the years I've had a variety of deans, supervisors, bosses. Each time we switch to new management priorities change. One boss will want us to spend money when we have it and buy as much equipment as possible. Another boss wants to clean out and throw away everything we haven't used in a few years. One boss worries about accommodating every student while another boss only worries if a student complains. The current management is on a massive cleanup campaign so everything I don't want to see thrown away has migrated to my office. I have piles of stuff we "might need" someday but haven't used in a while. Before I could stop it a thirteen-volume Braille textbook was thrown away that was only used one quarter. Last year they nearly threw away my PIAF machine because nobody had seen me using it - but I resurrected it in time. So when the cleanup started I grabbed stuff. Now I can hardly move I'm so - 'er' stuffed with stuff in my office! But maybe like some previous bosses, I myself am a hoarder. Maybe I need to just say goodbye and move on. I email other departments asking if they want some wacky thing, like a Braille atlas of the world or an ancient but still working CCTV and get no response. I surplused three perfectly working Braille embossers a few years ago simply because I no longer had convenient parallel or serial ports. I couldn't take it home because that would have been stealing but it was probably broken up for scrap metal. And just yesterday I threw away all our CD-based Daisy players because nobody has requested one in at least four years. I do tend to hoard because it has served me well before. One of my friends still uses a large-print French-English dictionary, a massive thing I found at a flea market for a dollar. No doubt some school surplused it. When I lost my job at TeleSensory, they were literally throwing Braille displays and Optacons in the dumpster. My husband and I snuck back after dark and loaded them in to our car. I gave away the Optacons to very grateful users and still use those displays today. But I was young and poorer then; I'm not going to grab stuff that doesn't belong to me, yet I hate to see it thrown out. Do you others tend to hang on to obsolete technology in case it might be needed? Or do you toss it out because after all you don't have space and don't want to hoard. And how do you make decisions about what to keep? --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Wed Jul 17 09:26:02 2019 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Wed Jul 17 09:26:59 2019 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Your opinions on keeping old AT In-Reply-To: References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: In regards to old braille books, I just gave several braille math books to our states Instructional Resource Center. This will allow any braille reader student in a Kansas high school to utilize these books to prepare for college level math. I hope they will be used there since they are no longer used on our campus. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Sorensen, Neal B Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 11:21 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I completely agree with Susan, get yourself a little elbow room and get rid of the old stuff. For the most part, you won't miss it. Over winter break, I was tasked with cleaning out the equipment closet which was packed FULL with stuff that has not been used in a LONG time... I mean it, we had JAWS and Dragon for Windows 3.1, a bunch of 4-track tape recorders, Victor readers that haven't been touched in years, and a lot of other gems. I also found some things that were quite interesting, like a TSI Speech+ talking calculator from 1975! The original price is taped on it too ($445!!!). I saved that one... It became obvious that no one had touched these in a very long time, some of it predated the office. But really, with the use of software-based AT we really don't need most of the older equipment. I gave a lot of stuff to surplus. A great deal of it could be recycled. Even the older edition Braille textbooks should be tossed, if someone needed the book it would have an updated edition anyway. Neal Sorensen (pronouns: he, him, his) Accessibility Resources Minnesota State University, Mankato 132 Memorial Library Mankato, MN 56001 Phone: (507) 389-5242 Fax: (507) 389-1199 www.mnsu.edu/access [cid:image004.png@01CF4281.A3698650] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply email so that our address record can be corrected. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 10:32 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT Debee... Let it go! Seriously. Let some of it go. If you aren't actively using it, and haven't actively used it in 2 or more years, you do need to let it go. How many Braille embossers does one office need? We have two - our current Trident, and our backup Juliet 60 Pro. Why would we need another? I surplus things all the time. Then I don't let myself think about what may happen to it. If two years from now some student needs a piece of equipment we surplused, we'll just buy a new one. Technology changes so fast...the new one would likely have better/newer features. As for that Braille...I know it hurts to let it go, but by the time a student needs it again, there will be a new version of the book. It costs very little to emboss a new copy, just takes some time and a couple boxes of paper. Like I never kept returned CD's from students back in the day - it was easier to record new ones as needed, because the returned ones were often scratched or a disk or two would be missing. Just let it go. If it hasn't been used in two years, let it go. And if later the item has to be re-purchased, your leadership will have to know that it is their fault you don't have it. But if you're like me, your storage space is limited in the first place, so you have to make some tough choices, but you likely won't regret doing so. That's my 2 cents worth! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 9:22 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT Curious about others' opinions here. Over the years I've had a variety of deans, supervisors, bosses. Each time we switch to new management priorities change. One boss will want us to spend money when we have it and buy as much equipment as possible. Another boss wants to clean out and throw away everything we haven't used in a few years. One boss worries about accommodating every student while another boss only worries if a student complains. The current management is on a massive cleanup canpaign so everything I don't want to see thrown away has migrated to my office. I have piles of stuff we "might need" someday but haven't used in a while. Before I could stop it a thirteen-volume Braille textbook was thrown away that was only used one quarter. Last year they nearly threw away my PIAF machine because nobody had seen me using it - but I resurrected it in time. So when the cleanup started I grabbed stuff. Now I can hardly move I'm so - 'er' stuffed with stuff in my office! But maybe like some previous bosses, I myself am a hoarder. Maybe I need to just say goodbye and move on. I email other departments asking if they want some wacky thing, like a Braille atlas of the world or an ancient but still working CCTV and get no response. I surplused three perfectly working Braille embossers a few years ago simply because I no longer had convenient parallel or serial ports. I couldn't take it home because that would have been stealing but it was probably broken up for scrap metal. And just yesterday I threw away all our CD-based Daisy players because nobody has requested one in at least four years. I do tend to hoard because it has served me well before. One of my friends still uses a large-print French-English dictionary, a massive thing I found at a flea market for a dollar. No doubt some school surplused it. When I lost my job at TeleSensory, they were literally throwing Braille displays and Optacons in the dumpster. My husband and I snuck back after dark and loaded them in to our car. I gave away the Optacons to very grateful users and still use those displays today. But I was young and poorer then; I'm not going to grab stuff that doesn't belong to me, yet I hate to see it thrown out. Do you others tend to hang on to obsolete technology in case it might be needed? Or do you toss it out because after all you don't have space and don't want to hoard. And how do you make decisions about what to keep? --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 7621 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From dandrews920 at comcast.net Wed Jul 17 16:57:09 2019 From: dandrews920 at comcast.net (David Andrews) Date: Wed Jul 17 16:57:15 2019 Subject: [Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT In-Reply-To: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: You might be able to find homes for some stuff. In Minnesota our Tech Act program, called STAR recycles obsolete technology, and gives stuff to people who can use older technology. There are a number of projects that collect Braille for African countries, and others. It is work, but it may ease your conscious. Dave At 10:21 AM 7/17/2019, you wrote: >Content-Language: en-US >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > >boundary="_000_61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84MB2FHDALEARN_" > >Curious about others' opinions here. > >Over the years I've had a variety of deans, >supervisors, bosses. Each time we switch to new management priorities change. > >One boss will want us to spend money when we >have it and buy as much equipment as possible. >Another boss wants to clean out and throw away >everything we haven't used in a few years. One >boss worries about accommodating every student >while another boss only worries if a student complains. > >The current management is on a massive cleanup >canpaign so everything I don't want to see >thrown away has migrated to my office. I have >piles of stuff we "might need" someday but >haven't used in a while. Before I could stop it >a thirteen-volume Braille textbook was thrown >away that was only used one quarter. Last year >they nearly threw away my PIAF machine because >nobody had seen me using it ? but I resurrected it in time. > >So when the cleanup started I grabbed stuff. Now >I can hardly move I?m so ? ?er? stuffed with stuff in my office! > >But maybe like some previous bosses, I myself am >a hoarder. Maybe I need to just say goodbye and move on. > >I email other departments asking if they want >some wacky thing, like a Braille atlas of the >world or an ancient but still working CCTV and get no response. > >I surplused three perfectly working Braille >embossers a few years ago simply because I no >longer had convenient parallel or serial ports. >I couldn't take it home because that would have >been stealing but it was probably broken up for >scrap metal. And just yesterday I threw away all >our CD-based Daisy players because nobody has >requested one in at least four years. > >I do tend to hoard because it has served me >well before. One of my friends still uses a >large-print French-English dictionary, a massive >thing I found at a flea market for a dollar. No doubt some school surplused it. > >When I lost my job at TeleSensory, they were >literally throwing Braille displays and Optacons >in the dumpster. My husband and I snuck back >after dark and loaded them in to our car. I gave >away the Optacons to very grateful users and still use those displays today. >But I was young and poorer then; I?m not going >to grab stuff that doesn?t belong to me, yet I hate to see it thrown out. > >Do you others tend to hang on to obsolete >technology in case it might be needed? Or do you >toss it out because after all you don't have space and don't want to hoard. From jillian.pfau at montgomerycollege.edu Thu Jul 18 06:58:23 2019 From: jillian.pfau at montgomerycollege.edu (Pfau, Jillian) Date: Thu Jul 18 06:58:57 2019 Subject: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students Message-ID: Hi ATHENites, I?m reaching out regarding any experience you may have with providing alternate format materials for foreign language courses. For Fall 19, we have a deaf/blind student registered for Italian. He uses braille and JAWS and typically requests accessible .pdfs, but I?m wondering if this will be sufficient considering the particular challenges related to learning a foreign language. Any advice would be greatly appreciated? and feel free to contact off-list at jillian.pfau@montgomerycollege.edu. Best regards, Jillian Jillian Pfau Coordinator of Assistive Technology, college-wide Disability Support Services Montgomery College Tel. 240-567-5224 [cid:image001.png@01D53D4F.55D04180] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you are a member of EASI, I did a webinar as part of the Advanced Word Tools/Features two years ago and it should be in the archives. The handouts for the EASI webinars can be found on my Office web page and are tagged PDF and free. https://www.karlencommunications.com/OfficeForWindowsAccessibility.html The handout is called Track Changes, Comments and Comparing Documents and I go through the accessibility of each tool/feature. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 11:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] is Microsoft track changes accessible? And they are promising to do a new webinar on track changes in September. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Stephen (Alex) Marositz Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 8:40 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] is Microsoft track changes accessible? Hi Krista Yes, if you are referring to use with Jaws or NVDA, track changes is accessible, although it is verbose and a little ungainly to use. For jaws, FreedomScientific did a webinar a few years ago on how to use it. Here is the URL: https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/TrackChanges/02-WordTrackChangesWithJAWS.htm I hope this helps Stephen Alex Marositz ATI Coordinator CSUDH Ext 3077 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Krista Greear Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 8:21 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] is Microsoft track changes accessible? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of CSUDH. Do not click links or open attachments unless you validate the sender and know the content is safe. Please forward this email to iso@csudh.edu if you believe this email is suspicious. Asking on behalf of a client. Does anyone know or have experience with the current accessibility of Microsoft's track changes? A specific version was not mentioned. I'd expect it to be more accessible in MS 2019 compared to 2010. Thanks! -- Krista Greear Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader ATHEN Executive Council Vice President Access Technology Higher Education Network -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Thu Jul 18 07:22:55 2019 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Thu Jul 18 07:23:48 2019 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Foreign language for blind students In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Accessible PDFs cam work as long as the languages are marked up. Me personally, I would prefer either Word or HTML documents, but that?s personal preference more than anything. If the language is set for the different sections, then JAWS will switch to the appropriate language for both speech and braille. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Pfau, Jillian Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 8:58 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT][Athen] Foreign language for blind students CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hi ATHENites, I?m reaching out regarding any experience you may have with providing alternate format materials for foreign language courses. For Fall 19, we have a deaf/blind student registered for Italian. He uses braille and JAWS and typically requests accessible .pdfs, but I?m wondering if this will be sufficient considering the particular challenges related to learning a foreign language. Any advice would be greatly appreciated? and feel free to contact off-list at jillian.pfau@montgomerycollege.edu. Best regards, Jillian Jillian Pfau Coordinator of Assistive Technology, college-wide Disability Support Services Montgomery College Tel. 240-567-5224 [cid:image002.png@01D53D4A.6130A5B0] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 5208 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Thu Jul 18 08:27:45 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Thu Jul 18 08:28:49 2019 Subject: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C1400D1@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Good thing he picked Italian! Very regular spelling/pronunciation! Doing the markup in Word can be tedious but worth the effort as it does make JAWS and NVDA as well accurately switch both Braille and speech. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Pfau, Jillian Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 6:58 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students Hi ATHENites, I?m reaching out regarding any experience you may have with providing alternate format materials for foreign language courses. For Fall 19, we have a deaf/blind student registered for Italian. He uses braille and JAWS and typically requests accessible .pdfs, but I?m wondering if this will be sufficient considering the particular challenges related to learning a foreign language. Any advice would be greatly appreciated? and feel free to contact off-list at jillian.pfau@montgomerycollege.edu. Best regards, Jillian Jillian Pfau Coordinator of Assistive Technology, college-wide Disability Support Services Montgomery College Tel. 240-567-5224 [cid:image002.png@01D53D42.C06DB9D0] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 5208 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From sherylb at uw.edu Thu Jul 18 09:54:57 2019 From: sherylb at uw.edu (Sheryl E. Burgstahler) Date: Thu Jul 18 09:55:48 2019 Subject: [Athen] Feedback and suggested edits welcome! Message-ID: At tinyurl.com/accesscyber20-wp you will find a paper we are working on with a large collaborative team of stakeholders associated with cyberlearning (i.e., learning opportunities that make use of information technology) research and practice. Many of our collaborators work on projects funded by the National Science Foundation under the program titled "Cyberlearning for Work at the Human-Technology Frontier" (https://www.nsf.gov/funding/pgm_summ.jsp?pims_id=504984). Our project, AccessCyberlearning 2.0, is funded by this program (see https://www.washington.edu/doit/programs/accesscyberlearning/overview). The draft title of the document is "White Paper: Designing Accessible Cyberlearning: Current State and Pathway Forward.? It will be finalized by the end of August and posted on a central website supported by NSF and meant to guide future cyberlearning research and practice. We encourage input from a diverse audience, so please suggest ways in which we can make this document more useful by entering suggestions within the Google Doc or sending email to me directly. [Note that this short draft paper links to a more comprehensive document that we will post on our own AccessCyberlearning 2.0 website by August 31. You can also give us suggestions for that draft in addition to the white paper.] Thanks in advance to those who take us up on this offer! Sheryl Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu From llewis at paciellogroup.com Thu Jul 18 10:52:42 2019 From: llewis at paciellogroup.com (Larry L. Lewis, Jr.) Date: Thu Jul 18 10:52:04 2019 Subject: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003101d53d91$99558a90$cc009fb0$@paciellogroup.com> As a blind, Braille user who has also taken foreign languages, I would say that you are on the right track by providing accessible PDF?s with the appropriate language tags present throughout the documentation. You?ll also want to make sure that the student is using the appropriate Braille tables with JAWS to accurately reflect these Language Changes. His Braille output will need to be set to computer Braille. You can pick a primary Braille Table for the primary language being used, but can then switch to other preferred Braille tables for alternative languages. I?m fairly certain that when JAWS switches to the alternative Language, the alternative Braille table will also be in use. Whereas this individual is deaf-blind, solid Braille Access will be imperative for him to be successful. Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Pfau, Jillian Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 9:58 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students Hi ATHENites, I?m reaching out regarding any experience you may have with providing alternate format materials for foreign language courses. For Fall 19, we have a deaf/blind student registered for Italian. He uses braille and JAWS and typically requests accessible .pdfs, but I?m wondering if this will be sufficient considering the particular challenges related to learning a foreign language. Any advice would be greatly appreciated? and feel free to contact off-list at jillian.pfau@montgomerycollege.edu . Best regards, Jillian Jillian Pfau Coordinator of Assistive Technology, college-wide Disability Support Services Montgomery College Tel. 240-567-5224 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 14162 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image008.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4631 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image009.png Type: image/png Size: 9813 bytes Desc: not available URL: From CMillion at dvc.edu Thu Jul 18 12:13:59 2019 From: CMillion at dvc.edu (Carrie Million) Date: Thu Jul 18 12:14:19 2019 Subject: [Athen] Content remediation system? Message-ID: Hello colleagues- Does your campus have a system in which faculty and staff can submit content to be remediated for accessibility? If so, can you give me an idea of how you've structured that system? How many people are on your remediation team, and are any of them students? Thanks in advance! Carrie Million Assistive Tech Specialist Diablo Valley College -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ka791 at georgetown.edu Thu Jul 18 12:18:50 2019 From: ka791 at georgetown.edu (Kevin Andrews) Date: Thu Jul 18 12:19:31 2019 Subject: [Athen] Content remediation system? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm the new Electronic IT Accessibility Coordinator for the university, housed within our IT department. I, too, am curious how other institutions structure this piece of their accessibility plan. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 3:15 PM Carrie Million wrote: > Hello colleagues- > > > Does your campus have a system in which faculty and staff can submit > content to be remediated for accessibility? If so, can you give me an idea > of how you've structured that system? How many people are on your > remediation team, and are any of them students? > > > Thanks in advance! > > > Carrie Million > > Assistive Tech Specialist > > Diablo Valley College > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Best Regards, Kevin Andrews Electronic and Information Technology Accessibility Coordinator University Information Services Georgetown University 3300 Whitehaven Street, NW Suite 2000 Washington, DC 20007 Ph: (202) 687-1028 ka791@georgetown.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Thu Jul 18 13:28:11 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Thu Jul 18 13:29:49 2019 Subject: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students In-Reply-To: <003101d53d91$99558a90$cc009fb0$@paciellogroup.com> References: <003101d53d91$99558a90$cc009fb0$@paciellogroup.com> Message-ID: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C140754@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Here?s a page from JAWS support you can use to test Nvda, Narrator and JAWS with speech and Braille. https://support.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/Languages.htm It explains how JAWS switches languages automatically if tags are correct. If JAWS or another screen reader auto-switches with the samples on this page but not with *YOUR* samples there?s a problem with your samples. There also used to be a JAWS bug that kept JAWS from switching back to English because JAWS was expecting a tag to tell it to return to English when in fact the web standards say that it?s enough to have a tag at the top of the document stating that English is the primary language. I think they?ve fixed this bug, but if you have an older version you might want to watch out for it. Be aware there are also two kinds of foreign language Braille. Just as we have Grade 2, UEB and computer Braille, foreign languages have their own contracted Braille. But, when one is learning the language, the standard is to transcribe the foreign language portion in Grade 1 uncontracted Braille and just include the accent signs. German contracted Braille for example is just as complex as our grade 2, and though I speak German I read the contractions with great difficulty. This is because I only learned it for a year when I was nineteen so I?m terrible at it. But reading German by setting my display to use the computer Braille table is easy for me because it is just the alphabet and the special accented letters. For the above explanations, I?m neither a Braille transcriber nor an HTML wiz, so I?ve simplified some of this explanation so it makes sense to us average folk! From: athen-list On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 10:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students As a blind, Braille user who has also taken foreign languages, I would say that you are on the right track by providing accessible PDF?s with the appropriate language tags present throughout the documentation. You?ll also want to make sure that the student is using the appropriate Braille tables with JAWS to accurately reflect these Language Changes. His Braille output will need to be set to computer Braille. You can pick a primary Braille Table for the primary language being used, but can then switch to other preferred Braille tables for alternative languages. I?m fairly certain that when JAWS switches to the alternative Language, the alternative Braille table will also be in use. Whereas this individual is deaf-blind, solid Braille Access will be imperative for him to be successful. [The Paciello Group logo] Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353 [Lewis Signature] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Pfau, Jillian Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 9:58 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students Hi ATHENites, I?m reaching out regarding any experience you may have with providing alternate format materials for foreign language courses. For Fall 19, we have a deaf/blind student registered for Italian. He uses braille and JAWS and typically requests accessible .pdfs, but I?m wondering if this will be sufficient considering the particular challenges related to learning a foreign language. Any advice would be greatly appreciated? and feel free to contact off-list at jillian.pfau@montgomerycollege.edu. Best regards, Jillian Jillian Pfau Coordinator of Assistive Technology, college-wide Disability Support Services Montgomery College Tel. 240-567-5224 [cid:image004.png@01D53D6C.B92DDA90] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 7352 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Individual departments, colleges, and schools, e.g., the Business School, have instructional designers available to faculty as they develop a course and they include accessible videos, documents, etc. And then of course our disability services office remediates inaccessible elements of a course when a specific student has a related approved accommodation that requires this. Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu > On Jul 18, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Kevin Andrews wrote: > > I'm the new Electronic IT Accessibility Coordinator for the university, housed within our IT department. I, too, am curious how other institutions structure this piece of their accessibility plan. > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 3:15 PM Carrie Million > wrote: > Hello colleagues- > > Does your campus have a system in which faculty and staff can submit content to be remediated for accessibility? If so, can you give me an idea of how you've structured that system? How many people are on your remediation team, and are any of them students? > > Thanks in advance! > > Carrie Million > Assistive Tech Specialist > Diablo Valley College > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > -- > Best Regards, > Kevin Andrews > Electronic and Information Technology Accessibility Coordinator > University Information Services > Georgetown University > 3300 Whitehaven Street, NW > Suite 2000 > Washington, DC 20007 > > Ph: (202) 687-1028 > ka791@georgetown.edu _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arovner at shoreline.edu Thu Jul 18 14:21:41 2019 From: arovner at shoreline.edu (Rovner, Amy) Date: Thu Jul 18 14:22:03 2019 Subject: [Athen] Content remediation system? In-Reply-To: <82DB0D5C-ED0C-4D72-8B3B-CEE6B1DED93D@uw.edu> References: <82DB0D5C-ED0C-4D72-8B3B-CEE6B1DED93D@uw.edu> Message-ID: We are a smaller community college and in my role as our Accessible IT Coordinator, manage a program we call AIM - Accessible Instructional Materials. For now I have funding from an internal 3 year grant but that expires in June 2020 and I'm unsure how things will proceed after that. For now I use that funding to pay for 5 part-time hourly staffers who do content remediation for faculty. None of my current staff are students but they certainly could be. They have to be FERPA trained and they are never working in live classes. If they were active students, I would be intentional about which classes they could access and what content. My staff currently manage the captioning of videos, they remediate documents, Canvas pages, etc. I do outreach to our faculty who teach the most often offered, highest enrolled, greatest impact classes to try to get them remediated first but we also remediate courses for any faculty who requests it. This will change if our capacity is stretched as more faculty learn about our services. We regularly offer faculty training on how to create accessible content, locate captioned videos, select accessible publisher content, etc. It's bit messy and a lot of work but it is having a positive impact. Feel free to contact me off list if you have additional questions. Best, Amy arovner@shoreline.edu Amy Rovner, MPH RD Instructional Designer eLearning Services Shoreline Community College www.shoreline.edu | 206.546.6937 eLearning Office: 206.546.6966 Pronouns: she, her, hers [Shoreline Community College] eLearning Service Help Center Faculty Canvas 24/7 Help via Chat Faculty Canvas 24/7 Phone Help: 1-888-672-2040 Student Canvas 24/7 Help via Chat Drop in help with basic computing From: athen-list On Behalf Of Sheryl E. Burgstahler Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 1:49 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Content remediation system? We offer training presentations in which faculty can engage, most are focused on document accessibility, web accessibility and captioning videos. They can also seek consulting from us or access our web resources. Our Seattle campus offers more comprehensive help with remediating their courses. We cation some high impact videos for free. Individual departments, colleges, and schools, e.g., the Business School, have instructional designers available to faculty as they develop a course and they include accessible videos, documents, etc. And then of course our disability services office remediates inaccessible elements of a course when a specific student has a related approved accommodation that requires this. Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu On Jul 18, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Kevin Andrews > wrote: I'm the new Electronic IT Accessibility Coordinator for the university, housed within our IT department. I, too, am curious how other institutions structure this piece of their accessibility plan. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 3:15 PM Carrie Million > wrote: Hello colleagues- Does your campus have a system in which faculty and staff can submit content to be remediated for accessibility? If so, can you give me an idea of how you've structured that system? How many people are on your remediation team, and are any of them students? Thanks in advance! 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It sounds like this feature will allow voice-based control of the mouse, via commands and a grid.? That comment was from June 8th of this year. So, that?s good news. I hope it happens soon. Have a good weekend, Kathy Kathy Cahill Associate Dean, Accessibility and Usability MIT Division of Student Life 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 kcahill@mit.edu (617) 253-5111 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vmart02s at uis.edu Fri Jul 19 12:20:56 2019 From: vmart02s at uis.edu (Martin, Vance S) Date: Fri Jul 19 12:21:33 2019 Subject: [Athen] Content remediation system? Message-ID: <7968c4e87bc148cda88a2b512a5cbdec@UISMBX04.uisad.uis.edu> On our campus the Deans of each college designate the priority of courses, they send the list to me, and I contact the faculty for their files. I have the faculty submit their files via Box, and then I have 4 undergrad student workers who remediate the files. We do Word, PPT, PDF, and video. With video we provide captions, transcripts, and do our best to include audio descriptions. I then notify the faculty when the files are done. In a normal semester 4 students are able to complete about 45 total classes, it takes about 2-3 days to complete a class. We are going into our third year this fall, and I hope to increase the number of students to 6. I've keep track of total files, total page/slide/minute count and have the students keep track of time on task for certain files so that we can report back to our CFO how the money is spent and the ROI. I also do a lot of training with faculty, and when I reach out to some faculty on these lists, they say they've already done it themselves. Vance S. Martin, Ph.D.?? Campus Accessibility Specialist Center for Online Learning, Research, and Service (COLRS) University of Illinois Springfield One University Plaza MS - Brookens Library 428 Springfield, IL 62703 217-206-8118? phone Center for Online Learning, Research and Service Accessibility Tips Accessibility in the Trenches vmart02s@uis.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 2:00 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [EXTERNAL] athen-list Digest, Vol 162, Issue 14 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman12.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Content remediation system? (Carrie Million) 2. Re: Content remediation system? (Kevin Andrews) 3. Re: Foreign language for blind students (Deborah Armstrong) 4. Re: Content remediation system? (Sheryl E. Burgstahler) 5. Re: Content remediation system? (Rovner, Amy) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 19:13:59 +0000 From: Carrie Million To: "athen-list@u.washington.edu" Subject: [Athen] Content remediation system? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello colleagues- Does your campus have a system in which faculty and staff can submit content to be remediated for accessibility? If so, can you give me an idea of how you've structured that system? How many people are on your remediation team, and are any of them students? Thanks in advance! Carrie Million Assistive Tech Specialist Diablo Valley College -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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How many people are on > your remediation team, and are any of them students? > > > Thanks in advance! > > > Carrie Million > > Assistive Tech Specialist > > Diablo Valley College > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Best Regards, Kevin Andrews Electronic and Information Technology Accessibility Coordinator University Information Services Georgetown University 3300 Whitehaven Street, NW Suite 2000 Washington, DC 20007 Ph: (202) 687-1028 ka791@georgetown.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 20:28:11 +0000 From: Deborah Armstrong To: "llewis@paciellogroup.com" , "Access Technology Higher Education Network" Subject: Re: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students Message-ID: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C140754@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Here?s a page from JAWS support you can use to test Nvda, Narrator and JAWS with speech and Braille. https://support.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/Languages.htm It explains how JAWS switches languages automatically if tags are correct. If JAWS or another screen reader auto-switches with the samples on this page but not with *YOUR* samples there?s a problem with your samples. There also used to be a JAWS bug that kept JAWS from switching back to English because JAWS was expecting a tag to tell it to return to English when in fact the web standards say that it?s enough to have a tag at the top of the document stating that English is the primary language. I think they?ve fixed this bug, but if you have an older version you might want to watch out for it. Be aware there are also two kinds of foreign language Braille. Just as we have Grade 2, UEB and computer Braille, foreign languages have their own contracted Braille. But, when one is learning the language, the standard is to transcribe the foreign language portion in Grade 1 uncontracted Braille and just include the accent signs. German contracted Braille for example is just as complex as our grade 2, and though I speak German I read the contractions with great difficulty. This is because I only learned it for a year when I was nineteen so I?m terrible at it. But reading German by setting my display to use the computer Braille table is easy for me because it is just the alphabet and the special accented letters. For the above explanations, I?m neither a Braille transcriber nor an HTML wiz, so I?ve simplified some of this explanation so it makes sense to us average folk! From: athen-list On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 10:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students As a blind, Braille user who has also taken foreign languages, I would say that you are on the right track by providing accessible PDF?s with the appropriate language tags present throughout the documentation. You?ll also want to make sure that the student is using the appropriate Braille tables with JAWS to accurately reflect these Language Changes. His Braille output will need to be set to computer Braille. You can pick a primary Braille Table for the primary language being used, but can then switch to other preferred Braille tables for alternative languages. I?m fairly certain that when JAWS switches to the alternative Language, the alternative Braille table will also be in use. Whereas this individual is deaf-blind, solid Braille Access will be imperative for him to be successful. [The Paciello Group logo] Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353 [Lewis Signature] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Pfau, Jillian Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 9:58 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students Hi ATHENites, I?m reaching out regarding any experience you may have with providing alternate format materials for foreign language courses. For Fall 19, we have a deaf/blind student registered for Italian. He uses braille and JAWS and typically requests accessible .pdfs, but I?m wondering if this will be sufficient considering the particular challenges related to learning a foreign language. Any advice would be greatly appreciated? and feel free to contact off-list at jillian.pfau@montgomerycollege.edu. Best regards, Jillian Jillian Pfau Coordinator of Assistive Technology, college-wide Disability Support Services Montgomery College Tel. 240-567-5224 [cid:image004.png@01D53D6C.B92DDA90] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 7352 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Individual departments, colleges, and schools, e.g., the Business School, have instructional designers available to faculty as they develop a course and they include accessible videos, documents, etc. And then of course our disability services office remediates inaccessible elements of a course when a specific student has a related approved accommodation that requires this. Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu > On Jul 18, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Kevin Andrews wrote: > > I'm the new Electronic IT Accessibility Coordinator for the university, housed within our IT department. I, too, am curious how other institutions structure this piece of their accessibility plan. > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 3:15 PM Carrie Million > wrote: > Hello colleagues- > > Does your campus have a system in which faculty and staff can submit content to be remediated for accessibility? If so, can you give me an idea of how you've structured that system? How many people are on your remediation team, and are any of them students? > > Thanks in advance! > > Carrie Million > Assistive Tech Specialist > Diablo Valley College > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > -- > Best Regards, > Kevin Andrews > Electronic and Information Technology Accessibility Coordinator > University Information Services Georgetown University > 3300 Whitehaven Street, NW > Suite 2000 > Washington, DC 20007 > > Ph: (202) 687-1028 > ka791@georgetown.edu > _________________________________________ > ______ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:21:41 +0000 From: "Rovner, Amy" To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Content remediation system? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We are a smaller community college and in my role as our Accessible IT Coordinator, manage a program we call AIM - Accessible Instructional Materials. For now I have funding from an internal 3 year grant but that expires in June 2020 and I'm unsure how things will proceed after that. For now I use that funding to pay for 5 part-time hourly staffers who do content remediation for faculty. None of my current staff are students but they certainly could be. They have to be FERPA trained and they are never working in live classes. If they were active students, I would be intentional about which classes they could access and what content. My staff currently manage the captioning of videos, they remediate documents, Canvas pages, etc. I do outreach to our faculty who teach the most often offered, highest enrolled, greatest impact classes to try to get them remediated first but we also remediate courses for any faculty who requests it. This will change if our capacity is stretched as more faculty learn about our services. We regularly offer faculty training on how to create accessible content, locate captioned videos, select accessible publisher content, etc. It's bit messy and a lot of work but it is having a positive impact. Feel free to contact me off list if you have additional questions. Best, Amy arovner@shoreline.edu Amy Rovner, MPH RD Instructional Designer eLearning Services Shoreline Community College www.shoreline.edu | 206.546.6937 eLearning Office: 206.546.6966 Pronouns: she, her, hers [Shoreline Community College] eLearning Service Help Center Faculty Canvas 24/7 Help via Chat Faculty Canvas 24/7 Phone Help: 1-888-672-2040 Student Canvas 24/7 Help via Chat Drop in help with basic computing From: athen-list On Behalf Of Sheryl E. Burgstahler Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 1:49 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Content remediation system? We offer training presentations in which faculty can engage, most are focused on document accessibility, web accessibility and captioning videos. They can also seek consulting from us or access our web resources. Our Seattle campus offers more comprehensive help with remediating their courses. We cation some high impact videos for free. Individual departments, colleges, and schools, e.g., the Business School, have instructional designers available to faculty as they develop a course and they include accessible videos, documents, etc. And then of course our disability services office remediates inaccessible elements of a course when a specific student has a related approved accommodation that requires this. Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu On Jul 18, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Kevin Andrews > wrote: I'm the new Electronic IT Accessibility Coordinator for the university, housed within our IT department. I, too, am curious how other institutions structure this piece of their accessibility plan. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 3:15 PM Carrie Million > wrote: Hello colleagues- Does your campus have a system in which faculty and staff can submit content to be remediated for accessibility? If so, can you give me an idea of how you've structured that system? How many people are on your remediation team, and are any of them students? Thanks in advance! 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URL: ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list ------------------------------ End of athen-list Digest, Vol 162, Issue 14 ******************************************* From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Fri Jul 19 18:10:06 2019 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Fri Jul 19 18:10:55 2019 Subject: [Athen] Voice recognition on Macs In-Reply-To: <100C52BC-2222-4959-A28D-AD81874AA96D@mit.edu> References: <100C52BC-2222-4959-A28D-AD81874AA96D@mit.edu> Message-ID: <545F7E2B-BEAB-45FA-95E6-01466EF5094B@techpotential.net> Hi, Kathy! At the keynote for Apple?s annual WWDC (World Wide Developers Conference) on June 3rd, there were several announcements of interest to the AT community, including the Dragon-like voice control you mention. But first, some basic info: macOS 10.15, available this fall, will be called Catalina Includes expanded Voice Control (numbered tags, grid) If you want to try out a public beta early, you can sign up for Apple?s Beta Software Program at https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram The iOS version that runs on iPads has grown to be sufficiently distinct from that for iPhones (lots of additional iPad-specific features) that its version now gets a new name: iPadOS. Apple introduces Neural TTS for Siri Most of you know that modern TTS voices (those of the last 10-15 years) are based on concatenating phonemes lifted from human-recorded speech. The resulting spoken text sounds mostly human, but the cadence and rhythm are? well, kind of jerky. Neural TTS, created with the help of so-called neural network deep-learning, sounds more human and less synthetic despite being generated entirely by software. The biggest advantage is reduced listening fatigue, very important to those listening to long passages or entire books. Listen to the announcement and the new Siri voice from 1:00:20 to 1:01:45 in the keynote video (you can hear the same scientific text spoken in iOS 12, then the new improved iOS 13.): https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2019/ Apple introduces Voice Control (available in Catalina) This is an expanded collection of the current "Dictation Commands" for people with physical motor limitations. Voice Control provides a wide variety of commands for navigating and controlling all aspects of Macs, iPads, and iPhones. Among these are numbered tags for menu items and controls, and screen grids ? features reminiscent of those in Dragon for Windows (now that Dragon for Mac is gone). This video shows its capabilities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqoXFCCTfm4 Screen Time for Macs Screen Time , the iPhone & iPad utility for monitoring usage, managing downtime, and setting limits for access to apps, the Web, and communication contacts, will be available in macOS Catalina this fall. Best, Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net > On Jul 19, 2019, at 12:17 PM, Kathleen Cahill wrote: > > Hi Colleagues, > > I?ve written previously to talk about the decision by Nuance to stop supporting Dragon Professional Individual for Mac (formerly Dragon for Mac), which has left a huge gap in the voice recognition arena, especially for users who need to control the mouse with their voice and use custom vocabularies. There is a very in-depth article on the topic at https://tidbits.com/2019/01/21/nuance-has-abandoned-mac-speech-recognition-will-apple-fill-the-void/ > > As I was reading through the comments, someone mentioned that Apple is planning to add some of this functionality to their built-in dictation with the next version of the Mac OS. ?At the recent announcement of the next Mac OS a new feature called Voice control was announced. It sounds like this feature will allow voice-based control of the mouse, via commands and a grid.? That comment was from June 8th of this year. > > So, that?s good news. I hope it happens soon. > > Have a good weekend, > Kathy > > > Kathy Cahill > Associate Dean, Accessibility and Usability > MIT Division of Student Life > 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 > Cambridge MA 02139 > kcahill@mit.edu > (617) 253-5111 > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neal.sorensen at mnsu.edu Mon Jul 22 08:33:02 2019 From: neal.sorensen at mnsu.edu (Sorensen, Neal B) Date: Mon Jul 22 08:33:37 2019 Subject: [Athen] Voice recognition on Macs In-Reply-To: <545F7E2B-BEAB-45FA-95E6-01466EF5094B@techpotential.net> References: <100C52BC-2222-4959-A28D-AD81874AA96D@mit.edu> <545F7E2B-BEAB-45FA-95E6-01466EF5094B@techpotential.net> Message-ID: Interesting developments over at Apple? Voice Commands aren?t a new thing for Mac. In Mac OS X ?Tiger? I could use voice commands, though the recognition was pretty touchy. It?ll be interesting to see how that has improved. The use of Neural TTS has been introduced in other platforms already (See this article with examples from WaveNet, Google?s voice assistant). It?s used mostly in Google Home and Google Assistant. Also Amazon?s Polly system promises to do similar things. The comparisons are quite striking, and the Japanese comparison to SAPI 5 style voice and WaveNet is especially impressive. The Robotic quality of the voice is almost completely gone in the WaveNet files. Apple, as usual, is late to the party, but when they arrive it?s usually with a big entrance and people saying they were the first to get there. Neal Sorensen (pronouns: he, him, his) Accessibility Resources Minnesota State University, Mankato 132 Memorial Library Mankato, MN 56001 Phone: (507) 389-5242 Fax: (507) 389-1199 www.mnsu.edu/access [cid:image004.png@01CF4281.A3698650] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply email so that our address record can be corrected. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Shelley Haven Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 8:10 PM To: ATHEN Subject: Re: [Athen] Voice recognition on Macs Hi, Kathy! At the keynote for Apple?s annual WWDC (World Wide Developers Conference) on June 3rd, there were several announcements of interest to the AT community, including the Dragon-like voice control you mention. But first, some basic info: * macOS 10.15, available this fall, will be called Catalina * Includes expanded Voice Control (numbered tags, grid) * If you want to try out a public beta early, you can sign up for Apple?s Beta Software Program at https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram * The iOS version that runs on iPads has grown to be sufficiently distinct from that for iPhones (lots of additional iPad-specific features) that its version now gets a new name: iPadOS. Apple introduces Neural TTS for Siri Most of you know that modern TTS voices (those of the last 10-15 years) are based on concatenating phonemes lifted from human-recorded speech. The resulting spoken text sounds mostly human, but the cadence and rhythm are? well, kind of jerky. Neural TTS, created with the help of so-called neural network deep-learning, sounds more human and less synthetic despite being generated entirely by software. The biggest advantage is reduced listening fatigue, very important to those listening to long passages or entire books. Listen to the announcement and the new Siri voice from 1:00:20 to 1:01:45 in the keynote video (you can hear the same scientific text spoken in iOS 12, then the new improved iOS 13.): https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2019/ Apple introduces Voice Control (available in Catalina) This is an expanded collection of the current "Dictation Commands" for people with physical motor limitations. Voice Control provides a wide variety of commands for navigating and controlling all aspects of Macs, iPads, and iPhones. Among these are numbered tags for menu items and controls, and screen grids ? features reminiscent of those in Dragon for Windows (now that Dragon for Mac is gone). This video shows its capabilities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqoXFCCTfm4 Screen Time for Macs Screen Time, the iPhone & iPad utility for monitoring usage, managing downtime, and setting limits for access to apps, the Web, and communication contacts, will be available in macOS Catalina this fall. Best, Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Jul 19, 2019, at 12:17 PM, Kathleen Cahill > wrote: Hi Colleagues, I?ve written previously to talk about the decision by Nuance to stop supporting Dragon Professional Individual for Mac (formerly Dragon for Mac), which has left a huge gap in the voice recognition arena, especially for users who need to control the mouse with their voice and use custom vocabularies. There is a very in-depth article on the topic at https://tidbits.com/2019/01/21/nuance-has-abandoned-mac-speech-recognition-will-apple-fill-the-void/ As I was reading through the comments, someone mentioned that Apple is planning to add some of this functionality to their built-in dictation with the next version of the Mac OS. ?At the recent announcement of the next Mac OS a new feature called Voice control was announced. It sounds like this feature will allow voice-based control of the mouse, via commands and a grid.? That comment was from June 8th of this year. So, that?s good news. I hope it happens soon. Have a good weekend, Kathy Kathy Cahill Associate Dean, Accessibility and Usability MIT Division of Student Life 77 Mass. Ave. 7-143 Cambridge MA 02139 kcahill@mit.edu (617) 253-5111 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 7621 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Mon Jul 22 08:35:30 2019 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Mon Jul 22 08:36:25 2019 Subject: [Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT In-Reply-To: <201907172357.x6HNvFWS006596@mxout22.s.uw.edu> References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> <201907172357.x6HNvFWS006596@mxout22.s.uw.edu> Message-ID: I love reading all the purge stories! I do a similar process to what Robert described. Unfortunately, w can't use the 2-year rule as we often go more like 5 years between students who may need to use documents requiring the PIAF and sometimes even braille. The main items I keep are those big-dollar items - embossers and PIAFs, portable braille displays (as long as they can still connect and work with a computer), portable magnifiers. If it's less than $500 to replace and I haven't used it for 3-5 years, it goes. I do put labels that say "before disposing of this item, please ask Heidi" on things that can't stay in my office. Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT *she, her, hers* Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 6:57 PM David Andrews wrote: > You might be able to find homes for some stuff. > In Minnesota our Tech Act program, called STAR > recycles obsolete technology, and gives stuff to > people who can use older technology. > > There are a number of projects that collect > Braille for African countries, and others. > > It is work, but it may ease your conscious. > > Dave > > At 10:21 AM 7/17/2019, you wrote: > >Content-Language: en-US > >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > > >boundary="_000_61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84MB2FHDALEARN_" > > > >Curious about others' opinions here. > > > >Over the years I've had a variety of deans, > >supervisors, bosses. Each time we switch to new management priorities > change. > > > >One boss will want us to spend money when we > >have it and buy as much equipment as possible. > >Another boss wants to clean out and throw away > >everything we haven't used in a few years. One > >boss worries about accommodating every student > >while another boss only worries if a student complains. > > > >The current management is on a massive cleanup > >canpaign so everything I don't want to see > >thrown away has migrated to my office. I have > >piles of stuff we "might need" someday but > >haven't used in a while. Before I could stop it > >a thirteen-volume Braille textbook was thrown > >away that was only used one quarter. Last year > >they nearly threw away my PIAF machine because > >nobody had seen me using it ? but I resurrected it in time. > > > >So when the cleanup started I grabbed stuff. Now > >I can hardly move I?m so ? ?er? stuffed with stuff in my office! > > > >But maybe like some previous bosses, I myself am > >a hoarder. Maybe I need to just say goodbye and move on. > > > >I email other departments asking if they want > >some wacky thing, like a Braille atlas of the > >world or an ancient but still working CCTV and get no response. > > > >I surplused three perfectly working Braille > >embossers a few years ago simply because I no > >longer had convenient parallel or serial ports. > >I couldn't take it home because that would have > >been stealing but it was probably broken up for > >scrap metal. And just yesterday I threw away all > >our CD-based Daisy players because nobody has > >requested one in at least four years. > > > >I do tend to hoard because it has served me > >well before. One of my friends still uses a > >large-print French-English dictionary, a massive > >thing I found at a flea market for a dollar. No doubt some school > surplused it. > > > >When I lost my job at TeleSensory, they were > >literally throwing Braille displays and Optacons > >in the dumpster. My husband and I snuck back > >after dark and loaded them in to our car. I gave > >away the Optacons to very grateful users and still use those displays > today. > >But I was young and poorer then; I?m not going > >to grab stuff that doesn?t belong to me, yet I hate to see it thrown out. > > > >Do you others tend to hang on to obsolete > >technology in case it might be needed? Or do you > >toss it out because after all you don't have space and don't want to > hoard. > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Mon Jul 22 17:42:05 2019 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Mon Jul 22 17:42:39 2019 Subject: [Athen] Voice recognition on Macs In-Reply-To: References: <100C52BC-2222-4959-A28D-AD81874AA96D@mit.edu> <545F7E2B-BEAB-45FA-95E6-01466EF5094B@techpotential.net> Message-ID: <0C82EA8B-9B73-4932-9FE8-E8F9215ABA09@techpotential.net> > Voice Commands aren?t a new thing for Mac. Correct. As I mentioned, the new Voice Control feature is "an expanded collection of the current 'Dictation Commands'" which have been on Macs for years (including the ability to create one?s own custom voice commands). Several things distinguish the new Catalina and iOS 13 Voice Control: The addition of numbered tags to selectable items and links ("show numbers") and a numbered grid ("show grid" with selectable number of columns & rows). Since Macs lost this with the demise of Dragon for Mac, it?s nice to see these capabilities added into the respective OSs. Custom command tool ? users can create their own voice commands to insert text, paste specific data, run a shortcut, or run a custom gesture, and select any app as the target for that command (or make it universal). Use voice to record and playback those new voice commands. Vocabulary feature permits addition of custom words for use with dictation or in commands. Much broader range of navigation and control commands (e.g., start drag, drop, tap, long press, rotate left, swipe down, two finger pan right ? you get the idea) with lots of customization options. I have to wonder if Nuance decided to drop Dragon for Mac after seeing what direction Apple was going with speech on both macOS and iOS. While these new features are no direct replacement, Nuance may feel it?s no longer worth their while to support the product. As you point out, these voice command features as well as the Neural TTS are already available on other platforms, but I don?t see Apple or anyone else claiming they are "the first". I?m just glad to see the features available for Apple device users, and at no additional cost (a big plus). - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net > On Jul 22, 2019, at 8:33 AM, Sorensen, Neal B wrote: > > Interesting developments over at Apple? > > Voice Commands aren?t a new thing for Mac. In Mac OS X ?Tiger? I could use voice commands, though the recognition was pretty touchy. It?ll be interesting to see how that has improved. > > The use of Neural TTS has been introduced in other platforms already (See this article with examples from WaveNet, Google?s voice assistant ). It?s used mostly in Google Home and Google Assistant. Also Amazon?s Polly system promises to do similar things. The comparisons are quite striking, and the Japanese comparison to SAPI 5 style voice and WaveNet is especially impressive. The Robotic quality of the voice is almost completely gone in the WaveNet files. Apple, as usual, is late to the party, but when they arrive it?s usually with a big entrance and people saying they were the first to get there. > > Neal Sorensen > (pronouns: he, him, his) > Accessibility Resources > Minnesota State University, Mankato > 132 Memorial Library > Mankato, MN 56001 > > Phone: (507) 389-5242 > Fax: (507) 389-1199 > www.mnsu.edu/access > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply email so that our address record can be corrected. > > From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Shelley Haven > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 8:10 PM > To: ATHEN > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Voice recognition on Macs > > Hi, Kathy! > > At the keynote for Apple?s annual WWDC (World Wide Developers Conference) on June 3rd, there were several announcements of interest to the AT community, including the Dragon-like voice control you mention. But first, some basic info: > macOS 10.15, available this fall, will be called Catalina > Includes expanded Voice Control (numbered tags, grid) > If you want to try out a public beta early, you can sign up for Apple?s Beta Software Program at https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram > The iOS version that runs on iPads has grown to be sufficiently distinct from that for iPhones (lots of additional iPad-specific features) that its version now gets a new name: iPadOS. > > Apple introduces Neural TTS for Siri > Most of you know that modern TTS voices (those of the last 10-15 years) are based on concatenating phonemes lifted from human-recorded speech. The resulting spoken text sounds mostly human, but the cadence and rhythm are? well, kind of jerky. Neural TTS, created with the help of so-called neural network deep-learning, sounds more human and less synthetic despite being generated entirely by software. The biggest advantage is reduced listening fatigue, very important to those listening to long passages or entire books. Listen to the announcement and the new Siri voice from 1:00:20 to 1:01:45 in the keynote video (you can hear the same scientific text spoken in iOS 12, then the new improved iOS 13.): > https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2019/ > > Apple introduces Voice Control (available in Catalina) > This is an expanded collection of the current "Dictation Commands" for people with physical motor limitations. Voice Control provides a wide variety of commands for navigating and controlling all aspects of Macs, iPads, and iPhones. Among these are numbered tags for menu items and controls, and screen grids ? features reminiscent of those in Dragon for Windows (now that Dragon for Mac is gone). This video shows its capabilities: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqoXFCCTfm4 > > Screen Time for Macs > Screen Time , the iPhone & iPad utility for monitoring usage, managing downtime, and setting limits for access to apps, the Web, and communication contacts, will be available in macOS Catalina this fall. > > Best, > Shelley > > _____________________________ > Shelley Haven ATP, RET > Assistive Technology Consultant > www.TechPotential.net > > > > On Jul 19, 2019, at 12:17 PM, Kathleen Cahill > wrote: > > Hi Colleagues, > > I?ve written previously to talk about the decision by Nuance to stop supporting Dragon Professional Individual for Mac (formerly Dragon for Mac), which has left a huge gap in the voice recognition arena, especially for users who need to control the mouse with their voice and use custom vocabularies. There is a very in-depth article on the topic at https://tidbits.com/2019/01/21/nuance-has-abandoned-mac-speech-recognition-will-apple-fill-the-void/ > > As I was reading through the comments, someone mentioned that Apple is planning to add some of this functionality to their built-in dictation with the next version of the Mac OS. ?At the recent announcement of the next Mac OS a new feature called Voice control was announced. It sounds like this feature will allow voice-based control of the mouse, via commands and a grid.? That comment was from June 8th of this year. > > So, that?s good news. I hope it happens soon. > > Have a good weekend, > Kathy > > > Kathy Cahill > Associate Dean, Accessibility and Usability > MIT Division of Student Life > 77 Mass. 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After the demo we request an Accessibility Statement for the product as well as an Accessibility Roadmap for remediation. You?ll find templates for those on the website as well. Hope it helps. Sue Sue Cullen, M.S. Assistant Director, Accessible Technology Initiative CSU Office of the Chancellor scullen@calstate.edu (562) 506-7723 cell Cullen LinkedIn From: athen-list On Behalf Of Shayna Dominguez Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 7:42 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Questions about Contact Monkey [Caution - External Sender] Hello. We are working on internal communication and are looking at the tool Contact Monkey. Is anyone familiar with this tool? 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Not all the questions may be appropriate or relevant depending on the product or what information the vendor has already provided, so mix and match as to what works best for your situation. Take care, Sean On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 8:09 AM Cullen, Susan wrote: > Hi, > > At Cal State University we have a specific set of questions to ask vendors > during an Accessibility Demo > > they conduct for us via a webinar. The demo undercovers many barriers that > actual testing would find without our resources being used for that > purpose. This is part of our overall Vendor Requirements. > After > the demo we request an Accessibility Statement for the product as well as > an Accessibility Roadmap for remediation. You?ll find templates for those > on the website as well. > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > Sue > > > > > > Sue Cullen, M.S. > Assistant Director, Accessible Technology Initiative > CSU Office of the Chancellor > > scullen@calstate.edu > > (562) 506-7723 cell > > Cullen LinkedIn > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Shayna Dominguez > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2019 7:42 AM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] Questions about Contact Monkey > > > > [Caution - External Sender] > > Hello. We are working on internal communication and are looking at the > tool Contact Monkey > . > Is anyone familiar with this tool? 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My experience with students is even when an e-reader is fairly accessible, the students want to stick with a tool they know, whether it's their Kindle, Balabolka, K3000 or Read and Write. I'm guessing that Cengage, like Pearson is going to "certify" more and more of their content as accessible and encourage students to buy a textbook in the e-reader. I have some experience with Cengage Brain, and on the positive side, there seems to be a "read aloud" button on every page so you can use the voice built in to your OS to listen to that page, as long as your browser and OS supports that. There also seems to be captioning on most of the videos for the two courses with which I have experience. On the negative side, a book that has charts, tables and similar visual content may or may not have descriptions, and even when descriptions exist, if the image is just a picture of text - such as a picture of a spreadsheet or computer screen, the description won't contain the actual text. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Wed Jul 24 08:25:40 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Wed Jul 24 08:26:04 2019 Subject: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users In-Reply-To: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF03309994B2@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF03309994B2@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: As usual, publishers are deciding how our students are to access their materials. This is not their job, nor their purview. Publishers like to say they are listening to us. They are not. They never have. And this is unfortunate for our students. On the plus side, none of us will be unemployed anytime soon, as there will still be a need for us to remediate materials to fit the student's needs! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 9:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users https://blog.vitalsource.com/update-for-users This is from the VitalSource blog. Apparently Cengage is pulling many of their textbooks off VitalSource and their new home will be an internal e-reader. My experience with students is even when an e-reader is fairly accessible, the students want to stick with a tool they know, whether it's their Kindle, Balabolka, K3000 or Read and Write. I'm guessing that Cengage, like Pearson is going to "certify" more and more of their content as accessible and encourage students to buy a textbook in the e-reader. I have some experience with Cengage Brain, and on the positive side, there seems to be a "read aloud" button on every page so you can use the voice built in to your OS to listen to that page, as long as your browser and OS supports that. There also seems to be captioning on most of the videos for the two courses with which I have experience. On the negative side, a book that has charts, tables and similar visual content may or may not have descriptions, and even when descriptions exist, if the image is just a picture of text - such as a picture of a spreadsheet or computer screen, the description won't contain the actual text. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adwershing at pstcc.edu Wed Jul 24 10:09:42 2019 From: adwershing at pstcc.edu (Wershing, Alice D.) Date: Wed Jul 24 10:10:03 2019 Subject: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users In-Reply-To: References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF03309994B2@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: Hello, I wonder what Benetech will say about the accessibility of a new internal reader. They have been working with all of the reading systems to determine their accessibility. The only publisher that I'm aware of that has passed Benetech's Accessibility program is Macmillan. Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist Pellissippi State Community College 865-694-6751 865-539-7699 (fax) East TN Region Accessibility Specialist Tenessee Board of Regents-TN eCampus PSCC Access for All Blog PSCC Accessible Format Facebook Page (PSCC-Disability Services) PSCC Access4All Twitter Feed (@Access4allPSCC) From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 11:26 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users As usual, publishers are deciding how our students are to access their materials. This is not their job, nor their purview. Publishers like to say they are listening to us. They are not. They never have. And this is unfortunate for our students. On the plus side, none of us will be unemployed anytime soon, as there will still be a need for us to remediate materials to fit the student's needs! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 9:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users https://blog.vitalsource.com/update-for-users This is from the VitalSource blog. Apparently Cengage is pulling many of their textbooks off VitalSource and their new home will be an internal e-reader. My experience with students is even when an e-reader is fairly accessible, the students want to stick with a tool they know, whether it's their Kindle, Balabolka, K3000 or Read and Write. I'm guessing that Cengage, like Pearson is going to "certify" more and more of their content as accessible and encourage students to buy a textbook in the e-reader. I have some experience with Cengage Brain, and on the positive side, there seems to be a "read aloud" button on every page so you can use the voice built in to your OS to listen to that page, as long as your browser and OS supports that. There also seems to be captioning on most of the videos for the two courses with which I have experience. On the negative side, a book that has charts, tables and similar visual content may or may not have descriptions, and even when descriptions exist, if the image is just a picture of text - such as a picture of a spreadsheet or computer screen, the description won't contain the actual text. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adwershing at pstcc.edu Wed Jul 24 10:15:38 2019 From: adwershing at pstcc.edu (Wershing, Alice D.) Date: Wed Jul 24 10:15:47 2019 Subject: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users In-Reply-To: References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF03309994B2@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: I just looked at the list on the reading systems website and I do not see anything about Cengage. Alice From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 11:26 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users As usual, publishers are deciding how our students are to access their materials. This is not their job, nor their purview. Publishers like to say they are listening to us. They are not. They never have. And this is unfortunate for our students. On the plus side, none of us will be unemployed anytime soon, as there will still be a need for us to remediate materials to fit the student's needs! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 9:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users https://blog.vitalsource.com/update-for-users This is from the VitalSource blog. Apparently Cengage is pulling many of their textbooks off VitalSource and their new home will be an internal e-reader. My experience with students is even when an e-reader is fairly accessible, the students want to stick with a tool they know, whether it's their Kindle, Balabolka, K3000 or Read and Write. I'm guessing that Cengage, like Pearson is going to "certify" more and more of their content as accessible and encourage students to buy a textbook in the e-reader. I have some experience with Cengage Brain, and on the positive side, there seems to be a "read aloud" button on every page so you can use the voice built in to your OS to listen to that page, as long as your browser and OS supports that. There also seems to be captioning on most of the videos for the two courses with which I have experience. On the negative side, a book that has charts, tables and similar visual content may or may not have descriptions, and even when descriptions exist, if the image is just a picture of text - such as a picture of a spreadsheet or computer screen, the description won't contain the actual text. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Wed Jul 24 10:15:21 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Wed Jul 24 10:16:42 2019 Subject: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users In-Reply-To: References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF03309994B2@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF0330999758@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Though I do find it ironic that Susan's university is used in several of VitalSource's blog posts as a shining example of accessibility! With VitalSource of course as the main contributor! From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 8:26 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users As usual, publishers are deciding how our students are to access their materials. This is not their job, nor their purview. Publishers like to say they are listening to us. They are not. They never have. And this is unfortunate for our students. On the plus side, none of us will be unemployed anytime soon, as there will still be a need for us to remediate materials to fit the student's needs! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 9:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users https://blog.vitalsource.com/update-for-users This is from the VitalSource blog. Apparently Cengage is pulling many of their textbooks off VitalSource and their new home will be an internal e-reader. My experience with students is even when an e-reader is fairly accessible, the students want to stick with a tool they know, whether it's their Kindle, Balabolka, K3000 or Read and Write. I'm guessing that Cengage, like Pearson is going to "certify" more and more of their content as accessible and encourage students to buy a textbook in the e-reader. I have some experience with Cengage Brain, and on the positive side, there seems to be a "read aloud" button on every page so you can use the voice built in to your OS to listen to that page, as long as your browser and OS supports that. There also seems to be captioning on most of the videos for the two courses with which I have experience. On the negative side, a book that has charts, tables and similar visual content may or may not have descriptions, and even when descriptions exist, if the image is just a picture of text - such as a picture of a spreadsheet or computer screen, the description won't contain the actual text. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Wed Jul 24 10:21:32 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Wed Jul 24 10:22:07 2019 Subject: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users In-Reply-To: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF0330999758@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF03309994B2@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF0330999758@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: The students I meet with do not use VitalSource, we've NEVER used VitalSource, as far as I am aware. We ARE a model of accessibility, that's true. But not with VitalSource! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 11:15 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users Though I do find it ironic that Susan's university is used in several of VitalSource's blog posts as a shining example of accessibility! With VitalSource of course as the main contributor! From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 8:26 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users As usual, publishers are deciding how our students are to access their materials. This is not their job, nor their purview. Publishers like to say they are listening to us. They are not. They never have. And this is unfortunate for our students. On the plus side, none of us will be unemployed anytime soon, as there will still be a need for us to remediate materials to fit the student's needs! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 9:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users https://blog.vitalsource.com/update-for-users This is from the VitalSource blog. Apparently Cengage is pulling many of their textbooks off VitalSource and their new home will be an internal e-reader. My experience with students is even when an e-reader is fairly accessible, the students want to stick with a tool they know, whether it's their Kindle, Balabolka, K3000 or Read and Write. I'm guessing that Cengage, like Pearson is going to "certify" more and more of their content as accessible and encourage students to buy a textbook in the e-reader. I have some experience with Cengage Brain, and on the positive side, there seems to be a "read aloud" button on every page so you can use the voice built in to your OS to listen to that page, as long as your browser and OS supports that. There also seems to be captioning on most of the videos for the two courses with which I have experience. On the negative side, a book that has charts, tables and similar visual content may or may not have descriptions, and even when descriptions exist, if the image is just a picture of text - such as a picture of a spreadsheet or computer screen, the description won't contain the actual text. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Wed Jul 24 10:24:59 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Wed Jul 24 10:26:25 2019 Subject: [Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT In-Reply-To: References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> <201907172357.x6HNvFWS006596@mxout22.s.uw.edu> Message-ID: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF03309997E6@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> The idea of putting labels on stuff that isn?t in your office is so obvious and so important; I need to make sure I?m doing it consistently! Had I done this some things I didn?t want tossed would have remained! I?ve faced the bear and my office is all neat again. Kept lots of commercially produced tactile graphics and modern Daisy players. Tossed all old Braille, in-house produce tactiles, CD-based daisy players, weird cables that no longer fit anything and parts to things that broke a long time ago. I think real hoarders give up and can?t cope, so I must only be a fake hoarder! From: athen-list On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:36 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT I love reading all the purge stories! I do a similar process to what Robert described. Unfortunately, w can't use the 2-year rule as we often go more like 5 years between students who may need to use documents requiring the PIAF and sometimes even braille. The main items I keep are those big-dollar items - embossers and PIAFs, portable braille displays (as long as they can still connect and work with a computer), portable magnifiers. If it's less than $500 to replace and I haven't used it for 3-5 years, it goes. I do put labels that say "before disposing of this item, please ask Heidi" on things that can't stay in my office. Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 6:57 PM David Andrews > wrote: You might be able to find homes for some stuff. In Minnesota our Tech Act program, called STAR recycles obsolete technology, and gives stuff to people who can use older technology. There are a number of projects that collect Braille for African countries, and others. It is work, but it may ease your conscious. Dave At 10:21 AM 7/17/2019, you wrote: >Content-Language: en-US >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > >boundary="_000_61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84MB2FHDALEARN_" > >Curious about others' opinions here. > >Over the years I've had a variety of deans, >supervisors, bosses. Each time we switch to new management priorities change. > >One boss will want us to spend money when we >have it and buy as much equipment as possible. >Another boss wants to clean out and throw away >everything we haven't used in a few years. One >boss worries about accommodating every student >while another boss only worries if a student complains. > >The current management is on a massive cleanup >canpaign so everything I don't want to see >thrown away has migrated to my office. I have >piles of stuff we "might need" someday but >haven't used in a while. Before I could stop it >a thirteen-volume Braille textbook was thrown >away that was only used one quarter. Last year >they nearly threw away my PIAF machine because >nobody had seen me using it ? but I resurrected it in time. > >So when the cleanup started I grabbed stuff. Now >I can hardly move I?m so ? ?er? stuffed with stuff in my office! > >But maybe like some previous bosses, I myself am >a hoarder. Maybe I need to just say goodbye and move on. > >I email other departments asking if they want >some wacky thing, like a Braille atlas of the >world or an ancient but still working CCTV and get no response. > >I surplused three perfectly working Braille >embossers a few years ago simply because I no >longer had convenient parallel or serial ports. >I couldn't take it home because that would have >been stealing but it was probably broken up for >scrap metal. And just yesterday I threw away all >our CD-based Daisy players because nobody has >requested one in at least four years. > >I do tend to hoard because it has served me >well before. One of my friends still uses a >large-print French-English dictionary, a massive >thing I found at a flea market for a dollar. No doubt some school surplused it. > >When I lost my job at TeleSensory, they were >literally throwing Braille displays and Optacons >in the dumpster. My husband and I snuck back >after dark and loaded them in to our car. I gave >away the Optacons to very grateful users and still use those displays today. >But I was young and poorer then; I?m not going >to grab stuff that doesn?t belong to me, yet I hate to see it thrown out. > >Do you others tend to hang on to obsolete >technology in case it might be needed? Or do you >toss it out because after all you don't have space and don't want to hoard. _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Wed Jul 24 10:50:56 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Wed Jul 24 10:52:03 2019 Subject: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students In-Reply-To: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C140754@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> References: <003101d53d91$99558a90$cc009fb0$@paciellogroup.com> <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C140754@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF033099984C@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> I know this thread started out helping a deaf-blind student, but as I?m taking Spanish in the Fall, I?ve been researching more. K1000 can do automatic language detection but it?s only at the page or paragraph level. Works great when reading a document that has a bit of prose or poetry in another language. It doesn?t work so great if you are reading a phrase or lesson book where two languages appear on one line. K1000 also can recognize with multiple languages, which is different than language detection. Detection is handled in the ?reading? settings while recognition settings let you check multiple languages for recognition purposes. But recognizing multiple languages with its built-in FineReader engine was disabled after K1000 V14.9. A licensing issue, perhaps? OmniPage ? the real product as well as the engine built in to K1000 and K3000 can be set to recognize multiple languages, and accuracy is improved when that is configured. In Word, and Duxbury (and thanks to great tutoring from Gaier) you can switch the proofing language so that screen readers and Read and Write will automatically switch languages on the Word level. Look for tutorials on how to switch to a different proofing language; highlight text in the foreign language and make the change. It?s actually a faster process for a keyboard user than it is for a mouse user, but it?s still tedious. Balabolka also seems to notice the tags in Word files to change languages, but I couldn?t get TextAloud to do it. If you wish to read supposedly accessible but unremediated books with speech, GOOD LUCK! I downloaded several dozen books from my local libraries in epub and PDF, both in German and Spanish. If the entire book is in the foreign language you can just switch your AT to read that language, no problem. But for lessons, none of the files, though otherwise mostly accessible, were tagged so that my AT could identify changes from one language to the other. Also, because automatic language identification seems to not work below the paragraph level, AT doesn?t help much when reading lessons. The experience is far better with Braille, at least with Latin languages, because the tables are similar enough. Even if table switching doesn?t occur, you can easily see how the words are spelled. So I hope your language learners do read visually or tactually; learning just using speech is far from simple! From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 1:28 PM To: llewis@paciellogroup.com; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students Here?s a page from JAWS support you can use to test Nvda, Narrator and JAWS with speech and Braille. https://support.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/Languages.htm It explains how JAWS switches languages automatically if tags are correct. If JAWS or another screen reader auto-switches with the samples on this page but not with *YOUR* samples there?s a problem with your samples. There also used to be a JAWS bug that kept JAWS from switching back to English because JAWS was expecting a tag to tell it to return to English when in fact the web standards say that it?s enough to have a tag at the top of the document stating that English is the primary language. I think they?ve fixed this bug, but if you have an older version you might want to watch out for it. Be aware there are also two kinds of foreign language Braille. Just as we have Grade 2, UEB and computer Braille, foreign languages have their own contracted Braille. But, when one is learning the language, the standard is to transcribe the foreign language portion in Grade 1 uncontracted Braille and just include the accent signs. German contracted Braille for example is just as complex as our grade 2, and though I speak German I read the contractions with great difficulty. This is because I only learned it for a year when I was nineteen so I?m terrible at it. But reading German by setting my display to use the computer Braille table is easy for me because it is just the alphabet and the special accented letters. For the above explanations, I?m neither a Braille transcriber nor an HTML wiz, so I?ve simplified some of this explanation so it makes sense to us average folk! From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 10:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students As a blind, Braille user who has also taken foreign languages, I would say that you are on the right track by providing accessible PDF?s with the appropriate language tags present throughout the documentation. You?ll also want to make sure that the student is using the appropriate Braille tables with JAWS to accurately reflect these Language Changes. His Braille output will need to be set to computer Braille. You can pick a primary Braille Table for the primary language being used, but can then switch to other preferred Braille tables for alternative languages. I?m fairly certain that when JAWS switches to the alternative Language, the alternative Braille table will also be in use. Whereas this individual is deaf-blind, solid Braille Access will be imperative for him to be successful. [The Paciello Group logo] Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353 [Lewis Signature] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Pfau, Jillian Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 9:58 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students Hi ATHENites, I?m reaching out regarding any experience you may have with providing alternate format materials for foreign language courses. For Fall 19, we have a deaf/blind student registered for Italian. He uses braille and JAWS and typically requests accessible .pdfs, but I?m wondering if this will be sufficient considering the particular challenges related to learning a foreign language. Any advice would be greatly appreciated? and feel free to contact off-list at jillian.pfau@montgomerycollege.edu. 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The new reader has probably not yet been tested, but the idea is that instead of the books from Cengage being available on VitalSource, a platform that serves multiple publishers, it now will be all internal to Cengage and more under their control. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wershing, Alice D. Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 10:16 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users I just looked at the list on the reading systems website and I do not see anything about Cengage. Alice From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 11:26 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users As usual, publishers are deciding how our students are to access their materials. This is not their job, nor their purview. Publishers like to say they are listening to us. They are not. They never have. And this is unfortunate for our students. On the plus side, none of us will be unemployed anytime soon, as there will still be a need for us to remediate materials to fit the student's needs! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 9:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users https://blog.vitalsource.com/update-for-users This is from the VitalSource blog. Apparently Cengage is pulling many of their textbooks off VitalSource and their new home will be an internal e-reader. My experience with students is even when an e-reader is fairly accessible, the students want to stick with a tool they know, whether it's their Kindle, Balabolka, K3000 or Read and Write. I'm guessing that Cengage, like Pearson is going to "certify" more and more of their content as accessible and encourage students to buy a textbook in the e-reader. I have some experience with Cengage Brain, and on the positive side, there seems to be a "read aloud" button on every page so you can use the voice built in to your OS to listen to that page, as long as your browser and OS supports that. There also seems to be captioning on most of the videos for the two courses with which I have experience. On the negative side, a book that has charts, tables and similar visual content may or may not have descriptions, and even when descriptions exist, if the image is just a picture of text - such as a picture of a spreadsheet or computer screen, the description won't contain the actual text. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kerscher at montana.com Wed Jul 24 11:43:52 2019 From: kerscher at montana.com (George Kerscher) Date: Wed Jul 24 11:44:03 2019 Subject: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users In-Reply-To: References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF03309994B2@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: <000f01d5424f$be5fb2d0$3b1f1870$@montana.com> Hello folks, Yes, Benetech and many others are testing EPUB readers and the results are at epubtest.org I have just contacted Cengage about the possibility of testing their new reader. Also at Benetech, they are testing the content from publishers to make sure it conforms to the EPUB Accessibility standard, which is based on WCAG 2.0 Macmillan is the first publisher to pass that rigorous set of tests and receive certification. To be clear the EPUB is opened in a reading App. And there are many available. It will be interesting to see how Cengage compares on accessibility. They have agreed to be in my session accepted for AHG. Personally, I find it hard to think that publishers will want their own reader. As a blind user, I want to learn a Reading App inside and out and become efficient. I would not like to learn a new reader for each book I purchase. I will be advocating for publishers to distribute their born accessible content through multiple sources so I can choose where to buy the titles. Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wershing, Alice D. Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 11:10 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users Hello, I wonder what Benetech will say about the accessibility of a new internal reader. They have been working with all of the reading systems to determine their accessibility. The only publisher that I'm aware of that has passed Benetech's Accessibility program is Macmillan. Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist Pellissippi State Community College 865-694-6751 865-539-7699 (fax) East TN Region Accessibility Specialist Tenessee Board of Regents-TN eCampus PSCC Access for All Blog PSCC Accessible Format Facebook Page (PSCC-Disability Services) PSCC Access4All Twitter Feed (@Access4allPSCC) From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 11:26 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users As usual, publishers are deciding how our students are to access their materials. This is not their job, nor their purview. Publishers like to say they are listening to us. They are not. They never have. And this is unfortunate for our students. On the plus side, none of us will be unemployed anytime soon, as there will still be a need for us to remediate materials to fit the student's needs! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 9:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users https://blog.vitalsource.com/update-for-users This is from the VitalSource blog. Apparently Cengage is pulling many of their textbooks off VitalSource and their new home will be an internal e-reader. My experience with students is even when an e-reader is fairly accessible, the students want to stick with a tool they know, whether it's their Kindle, Balabolka, K3000 or Read and Write. I'm guessing that Cengage, like Pearson is going to "certify" more and more of their content as accessible and encourage students to buy a textbook in the e-reader. I have some experience with Cengage Brain, and on the positive side, there seems to be a "read aloud" button on every page so you can use the voice built in to your OS to listen to that page, as long as your browser and OS supports that. There also seems to be captioning on most of the videos for the two courses with which I have experience. On the negative side, a book that has charts, tables and similar visual content may or may not have descriptions, and even when descriptions exist, if the image is just a picture of text - such as a picture of a spreadsheet or computer screen, the description won't contain the actual text. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any ideas on operating Microsoft Excel with an eye control device would be appreciated. Thanks, Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Wed Jul 24 12:58:41 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Wed Jul 24 12:59:40 2019 Subject: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users In-Reply-To: <000f01d5424f$be5fb2d0$3b1f1870$@montana.com> References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF03309994B2@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> <000f01d5424f$be5fb2d0$3b1f1870$@montana.com> Message-ID: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF0330999A5C@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> I agree that learning a new reader is a serious pain. Blind students who enjoy technology like me can do it and not really stress over it too much if it is accessible. My experience is that our low-vision students struggle more, simply because they often have vision which keeps changing and they are expecting interface elements to appear in the same place on the screen. Plus in the community college, we see many who are slowly loosing their vision and transitioning to a new way of living; asking them to learn multiple reading systems is so unfair! Physically disabled folk also need consistency in interface elements, which is something that multiple readers don't give you very often. It's even worse for someone with learning differences who has enough on their plate to just get a passing grade in class. Learning a new reader is not just a burden: it's a barrier! This may sound like preaching to the choir, but I submit all this to justify to professors why adopting the shiniest and most heavily marketed new platform may not be the best choice. If you can use some of my reasoning when chatting with them, go for it! --Debee From: athen-list On Behalf Of George Kerscher Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 11:44 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users Hello folks, Yes, Benetech and many others are testing EPUB readers and the results are at epubtest.org I have just contacted Cengage about the possibility of testing their new reader. Also at Benetech, they are testing the content from publishers to make sure it conforms to the EPUB Accessibility standard, which is based on WCAG 2.0 Macmillan is the first publisher to pass that rigorous set of tests and receive certification. To be clear the EPUB is opened in a reading App. And there are many available. It will be interesting to see how Cengage compares on accessibility. They have agreed to be in my session accepted for AHG. Personally, I find it hard to think that publishers will want their own reader. As a blind user, I want to learn a Reading App inside and out and become efficient. I would not like to learn a new reader for each book I purchase. I will be advocating for publishers to distribute their born accessible content through multiple sources so I can choose where to buy the titles. Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Wershing, Alice D. Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 11:10 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users Hello, I wonder what Benetech will say about the accessibility of a new internal reader. They have been working with all of the reading systems to determine their accessibility. The only publisher that I'm aware of that has passed Benetech's Accessibility program is Macmillan. Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist Pellissippi State Community College 865-694-6751 865-539-7699 (fax) East TN Region Accessibility Specialist Tenessee Board of Regents-TN eCampus PSCC Access for All Blog PSCC Accessible Format Facebook Page (PSCC-Disability Services) PSCC Access4All Twitter Feed (@Access4allPSCC) From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 11:26 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users As usual, publishers are deciding how our students are to access their materials. This is not their job, nor their purview. Publishers like to say they are listening to us. They are not. They never have. And this is unfortunate for our students. On the plus side, none of us will be unemployed anytime soon, as there will still be a need for us to remediate materials to fit the student's needs! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 9:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] New e-reader for Cengage Brain and Cengage Unlimited users https://blog.vitalsource.com/update-for-users This is from the VitalSource blog. Apparently Cengage is pulling many of their textbooks off VitalSource and their new home will be an internal e-reader. My experience with students is even when an e-reader is fairly accessible, the students want to stick with a tool they know, whether it's their Kindle, Balabolka, K3000 or Read and Write. I'm guessing that Cengage, like Pearson is going to "certify" more and more of their content as accessible and encourage students to buy a textbook in the e-reader. I have some experience with Cengage Brain, and on the positive side, there seems to be a "read aloud" button on every page so you can use the voice built in to your OS to listen to that page, as long as your browser and OS supports that. There also seems to be captioning on most of the videos for the two courses with which I have experience. On the negative side, a book that has charts, tables and similar visual content may or may not have descriptions, and even when descriptions exist, if the image is just a picture of text - such as a picture of a spreadsheet or computer screen, the description won't contain the actual text. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Wed Jul 24 13:02:12 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Wed Jul 24 13:03:36 2019 Subject: [Athen] Questions About Eye Control Device In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF0330999A82@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> A few years ago, I saw a wonderful demonstration a quadriplegic gave using Dragon to control Excel. He was a power user of both Dragon and Excel, but after that, I never doubted you get out of Dragon what you put in to it! If your student is unable to speak, be aware that there are multiple competing eye-control devices. And if your student can handle any sort of switch control device, there are always sticky keys. --Debee From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 12:56 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Questions About Eye Control Device Hello, we have a student who is using an eye control device to interface with his computer. I am not quite clear whether it is an add-on device to his computer or if it actually is his computer. The URL to it is: https://www.tobiidynavox.com/en-us/devices/eye-gaze-devices/i-15-with-communicator-5/ He has recently asked me if there is an alternative way to perform various tasks in Excel, such as selecting text. These functions involve holding down shift+ctrl. He is physically unable to do this and his device does not have a typical keyboard. I'm also not sure that he is able to use a mouse. The only other thing I can think of is if the options he needs are available on the ribbon - could he use his eyes to activate these controls? Any ideas on operating Microsoft Excel with an eye control device would be appreciated. Thanks, Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Wed Jul 24 13:24:39 2019 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Wed Jul 24 13:25:16 2019 Subject: [Athen] Questions About Eye Control Device In-Reply-To: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF0330999A82@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF0330999A82@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: Do sticky keys work with the on-screen keyboard? I suggested sticky keys to him, but he claimed that they didn't work. He is unable to speak. On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 4:07 PM Deborah Armstrong wrote: > A few years ago, I saw a wonderful demonstration a quadriplegic gave > using Dragon to control Excel. He was a power user of both Dragon and > Excel, but after that, I never doubted you get out of Dragon what you put > in to it! > > > > If your student is unable to speak, be aware that there are multiple > competing eye-control devices. > > > > And if your student can handle any sort of switch control device, there > are always sticky keys. > > --Debee > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Robert Spangler > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2019 12:56 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] Questions About Eye Control Device > > > > Hello, we have a student who is using an eye control device to interface > with his computer. I am not quite clear whether it is an add-on device to > his computer or if it actually is his computer. The URL to it is: > > > https://www.tobiidynavox.com/en-us/devices/eye-gaze-devices/i-15-with-communicator-5/ > > > > > > He has recently asked me if there is an alternative way to perform various > tasks in Excel, such as selecting text. These functions involve holding > down shift+ctrl. He is physically unable to do this and his device does > not have a typical keyboard. I'm also not sure that he is able to use a > mouse. The only other thing I can think of is if the options he needs are > available on the ribbon - could he use his eyes to activate these controls? > > > > Any ideas on operating Microsoft Excel with an eye control device would be > appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Robert > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Wed Jul 24 13:50:29 2019 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Wed Jul 24 13:51:45 2019 Subject: [Athen] Questions About Eye Control Device In-Reply-To: References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF0330999A82@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: Hi Robert et al ATHEN-ites It's possible your student could utilize macros to complete some of these tasks. It's also possible to add custom macro buttons to the Excel Toolbar which your student could then access with their eye gaze system. Here's a link for more information. https://www.dummies.com/software/microsoft-office/excel/how-to-assign-macros-to-the-ribbon-and-the-quick-access-toolbar-in-excel-2013/ I can pursue more specific information for you if needed. Your student will probably need some assistance in getting started with this but once the macros are set up, it should be fairly straightforward to use & customize. Hope this info is helpful! Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 1:25 PM Robert Spangler wrote: > Do sticky keys work with the on-screen keyboard? I suggested sticky keys > to him, but he claimed that they didn't work. > He is unable to speak. > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 4:07 PM Deborah Armstrong < > armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu> wrote: > >> A few years ago, I saw a wonderful demonstration a quadriplegic gave >> using Dragon to control Excel. He was a power user of both Dragon and >> Excel, but after that, I never doubted you get out of Dragon what you put >> in to it! >> >> >> >> If your student is unable to speak, be aware that there are multiple >> competing eye-control devices. >> >> >> >> And if your student can handle any sort of switch control device, there >> are always sticky keys. >> >> --Debee >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list *On >> Behalf Of *Robert Spangler >> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2019 12:56 PM >> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < >> athen-list@u.washington.edu> >> *Subject:* [Athen] Questions About Eye Control Device >> >> >> >> Hello, we have a student who is using an eye control device to interface >> with his computer. I am not quite clear whether it is an add-on device to >> his computer or if it actually is his computer. The URL to it is: >> >> >> https://www.tobiidynavox.com/en-us/devices/eye-gaze-devices/i-15-with-communicator-5/ >> >> >> >> >> >> He has recently asked me if there is an alternative way to perform >> various tasks in Excel, such as selecting text. These functions involve >> holding down shift+ctrl. He is physically unable to do this and his device >> does not have a typical keyboard. I'm also not sure that he is able to use >> a mouse. The only other thing I can think of is if the options he needs >> are available on the ribbon - could he use his eyes to activate these >> controls? >> >> >> >> Any ideas on operating Microsoft Excel with an eye control device would >> be appreciated. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Robert >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Robert Spangler >> Disability Services Technical Support Specialist >> rspangler1@udayton.edu >> Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 >> Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) >> University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 >> Phone: 937-229-2066 >> >> Fax: 937-229-3270 >> >> Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of >> hearing) >> >> Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From solowoniukr at macewan.ca Thu Jul 25 07:13:52 2019 From: solowoniukr at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Thu Jul 25 07:14:24 2019 Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question Message-ID: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> Hi everyone, We have been contacted by an instructor who is trying to make her documents accessible. She uses a Mac, and when she creates a document in Word on the Mac and then saves it as a PDF, the headings do not carry over. I recall this being discussed in the past but can?t recall if there is a fix. Any ideas are most welcome. I found an article that suggested opening the Word document in Google Docs, going through the documents and ensuring all headings were there, and then downloading the document as a PDF. I haven?t tried this to see if it works, but would like a less complicated method, if there is one. Thanks all. Russell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Thu Jul 25 07:18:51 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Thu Jul 25 07:19:22 2019 Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question In-Reply-To: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> References: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> Message-ID: There should be options, just like in Word for Windows. Save as, then click the options button, and make sure all the settings are correct. By default, those settings are all turned off, so you have to fix it. It should remember the changes for future documents. -Susan From: athen-list On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 8:14 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question Hi everyone, We have been contacted by an instructor who is trying to make her documents accessible. She uses a Mac, and when she creates a document in Word on the Mac and then saves it as a PDF, the headings do not carry over. I recall this being discussed in the past but can?t recall if there is a fix. Any ideas are most welcome. I found an article that suggested opening the Word document in Google Docs, going through the documents and ensuring all headings were there, and then downloading the document as a PDF. I haven?t tried this to see if it works, but would like a less complicated method, if there is one. Thanks all. Russell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bryantm at seminolestate.edu Thu Jul 25 08:27:53 2019 From: bryantm at seminolestate.edu (Marshall S. Bryant) Date: Thu Jul 25 08:28:02 2019 Subject: [Athen] book in audio format Message-ID: Hello, We have a student that is blind and will be taking a Trigonometry class in the Fall. I have the book information. Does anyone have this book in audio format? Accesstext has it in pdf, but would like to have in audio if possible. Here is the Information: A Graphical Approach to Algebra & Trigonometry, 7th Edition Hornsby, John; Lial, Margaret L.; Rockswold, Gary K. ISBN-10: 0134696514 ISBN-13: 9780134696515 ? 2019 Thank you, Marshall Bryant Adaptive Technology Specialist Seminole State College of Florida 407-708-2460 Please Note: *** Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.*** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Thu Jul 25 08:34:24 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Thu Jul 25 08:34:36 2019 Subject: [Athen] book in audio format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This student is going to need more than just an orally recorded book. You will need to turn that PDF into MathML via word and MathType to make it truly accessible and usable for a blind student. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Marshall S. Bryant Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:28 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] book in audio format Hello, We have a student that is blind and will be taking a Trigonometry class in the Fall. I have the book information. Does anyone have this book in audio format? Accesstext has it in pdf, but would like to have in audio if possible. Here is the Information: A Graphical Approach to Algebra & Trigonometry, 7th Edition Hornsby, John; Lial, Margaret L.; Rockswold, Gary K. ISBN-10: 0134696514 ISBN-13: 9780134696515 ? 2019 Thank you, Marshall Bryant Adaptive Technology Specialist Seminole State College of Florida 407-708-2460 Please Note: *** Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.*** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zm290 at msstate.edu Thu Jul 25 08:43:45 2019 From: zm290 at msstate.edu (Zach) Date: Thu Jul 25 08:44:02 2019 Subject: [Athen] book in audio format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <028401d542ff$be9c36a0$3bd4a3e0$@msstate.edu> The 5th edition is available via Learning Ally. Graphical Approach to Algebra and Trigonometry by John S. Hornsby; Margaret L. Lial; Gary K. Rockswold 5th Edition Copyright Year: 2011 ISBN-13: 9780321644725 Available format(s): Classic Audio -----Original Message----- From: athen-list On Behalf Of Marshall S. Bryant Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 11:28 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] book in audio format Hello, We have a student that is blind and will be taking a Trigonometry class in the Fall. I have the book information. Does anyone have this book in audio format? Accesstext has it in pdf, but would like to have in audio if possible. Here is the Information: A Graphical Approach to Algebra & Trigonometry, 7th Edition Hornsby, John; Lial, Margaret L.; Rockswold, Gary K. ISBN-10: 0134696514 ISBN-13: 9780134696515 ? 2019 Thank you, Marshall Bryant Adaptive Technology Specialist Seminole State College of Florida 407-708-2460 Please Note: *** Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.*** From sherylb at uw.edu Thu Jul 25 08:56:32 2019 From: sherylb at uw.edu (Sheryl E. Burgstahler) Date: Thu Jul 25 08:57:51 2019 Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question In-Reply-To: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> References: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> Message-ID: Russell, Why is the instructor converting their document to PDF when they already have an accessible Word document? Sheryl > On Jul 25, 2019, at 7:13 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > We have been contacted by an instructor who is trying to make her documents accessible. She uses a Mac, and when she creates a document in Word on the Mac and then saves it as a PDF, the headings do not carry over. I recall this being discussed in the past but can?t recall if there is a fix. Any ideas are most welcome. > > I found an article that suggested opening the Word document in Google Docs, going through the documents and ensuring all headings were there, and then downloading the document as a PDF. I haven?t tried this to see if it works, but would like a less complicated method, if there is one. > > Thanks all. > > Russell > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at ccctechcenter.org Thu Jul 25 09:02:27 2019 From: skeegan at ccctechcenter.org (Sean Keegan) Date: Thu Jul 25 09:03:07 2019 Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question In-Reply-To: References: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> Message-ID: It can depend on how the instructor is saving from MS Word to PDF on a Mac as well as what version of MS Word is being used. The latest versions of MS Word for Mac will create a tagged PDF document, but you must do the following: 1) Mark-up the MS Word document appropriately 2) Choose File > Save As 3) Choose File Format as PDF 4) Select the radio button Best for Electronic Distribution and Accessibility (uses Microsoft online service) 5) Press Export This will result in a tagged PDF from MS Word on a Mac. If the instructor is doing the File > Print and then Save As PDF method, this will just "print" a PDF. Also, I always ask the question as to why the document must be in the PDF format. Take care, Sean On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 7:20 AM Susan Kelmer wrote: > There should be options, just like in Word for Windows. Save as, then > click the options button, and make sure all the settings are correct. By > default, those settings are all turned off, so you have to fix it. It > should remember the changes for future documents. > > > > -Susan > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Russell Solowoniuk > *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2019 8:14 AM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] Word for Mac headings question > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > We have been contacted by an instructor who is trying to make her > documents accessible. She uses a Mac, and when she creates a document in > Word on the Mac and then saves it as a PDF, the headings do not carry over. > I recall this being discussed in the past but can?t recall if there is a > fix. Any ideas are most welcome. > > > > I found an article that suggested opening the Word document in Google > Docs, going through the documents and ensuring all headings were there, and > then downloading the document as a PDF. I haven?t tried this to see if it > works, but would like a less complicated method, if there is one. > > > > Thanks all. > > > > Russell > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lnorwich at bu.edu Thu Jul 25 09:41:42 2019 From: lnorwich at bu.edu (Norwich, Lorraine S) Date: Thu Jul 25 09:42:13 2019 Subject: [Athen] Incoming Law student who uses Jaws and Braille Message-ID: Good morning, Please can you give me some information on the following online data bases and other questions for our incoming student. 1. Has anyone worked with the Westlaw/Lexis databases on line with Jaws and do you have anything to share on how to database with Jaws. 2. Core Grammar - has anyone used the Core Grammar site with Jaws and can give me feedback on how it works. Thank you for your help. Best, Lorraine Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS Assistant Director Disability and Access Services Boston University 25 Buick Street 3rd Floor Boston, MA 02215 lnorwich@bu.edu (email) 617-353-3658 (vox) 617-353-9646 (fax) www.bu.edu/disability (website) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Thu Jul 25 09:50:47 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Thu Jul 25 09:50:53 2019 Subject: [Athen] Incoming Law student who uses Jaws and Braille In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have worked with blind students for years in our Law School. Lexis-Nexis is accessible, from my experience. I don't know about the other one Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Norwich, Lorraine S Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 10:42 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Incoming Law student who uses Jaws and Braille Good morning, Please can you give me some information on the following online data bases and other questions for our incoming student. 1. Has anyone worked with the Westlaw/Lexis databases on line with Jaws and do you have anything to share on how to database with Jaws. 2. Core Grammar - has anyone used the Core Grammar site with Jaws and can give me feedback on how it works. Thank you for your help. Best, Lorraine Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS Assistant Director Disability and Access Services Boston University 25 Buick Street 3rd Floor Boston, MA 02215 lnorwich@bu.edu (email) 617-353-3658 (vox) 617-353-9646 (fax) www.bu.edu/disability (website) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smarositz at csudh.edu Thu Jul 25 10:40:40 2019 From: smarositz at csudh.edu (Stephen (Alex) Marositz) Date: Thu Jul 25 10:41:36 2019 Subject: [Athen] Incoming Law student who uses Jaws and Braille In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Lorraine I used Westlaw all throughout Law School. I think I had to use it in "classic view" to get it to work well with Jaws. In that view, all sources were in basic HTML. You could also download accessible PDFs. I used Pocket, a Firefox extension, to make the research go a little faster. I've heard the "Next" Product is now accessible too but classic, because it is simple HTML, I suspect is still easier to use. We used something like Core Grammar, but I don't remember the name of it. It had a companion book which I just asked AMAC to convert to word. They did, and I just used that instead. HTH, and, feel free to drop me a line if you have any questions about accessible legal content. I completed my degree at a law school that did not have a SSD office so I had to figure a lot of this out on my own. Stephen Alexander (Alex) Marositz J.D. CPACC Accessible Technology Initiative Coordinator Information Technology Services, California State University Dominguez Hills (310)243-3077 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Norwich, Lorraine S Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:42 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Incoming Law student who uses Jaws and Braille CAUTION: This email originated from outside of CSUDH. Do not click links or open attachments unless you validate the sender and know the content is safe. Please forward this email to iso@csudh.edu if you believe this email is suspicious. Good morning, Please can you give me some information on the following online data bases and other questions for our incoming student. 1. Has anyone worked with the Westlaw/Lexis databases on line with Jaws and do you have anything to share on how to database with Jaws. 2. Core Grammar - has anyone used the Core Grammar site with Jaws and can give me feedback on how it works. Thank you for your help. Best, Lorraine Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS Assistant Director Disability and Access Services Boston University 25 Buick Street 3rd Floor Boston, MA 02215 lnorwich@bu.edu (email) 617-353-3658 (vox) 617-353-9646 (fax) www.bu.edu/disability (website) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Burgstahler) Date: Thu Jul 25 11:55:03 2019 Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question In-Reply-To: References: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> Message-ID: <12DD71A7-16A2-4DB8-9426-E99D78F80718@uw.edu> And, Sean, what is the most common response when you ask faculty why the want a document in PDF? Sheryl > On Jul 25, 2019, at 9:02 AM, Sean Keegan wrote: > > It can depend on how the instructor is saving from MS Word to PDF on a Mac as well as what version of MS Word is being used. The latest versions of MS Word for Mac will create a tagged PDF document, but you must do the following: > > 1) Mark-up the MS Word document appropriately > 2) Choose File > Save As > 3) Choose File Format as PDF > 4) Select the radio button Best for Electronic Distribution and Accessibility (uses Microsoft online service) > 5) Press Export > > This will result in a tagged PDF from MS Word on a Mac. If the instructor is doing the File > Print and then Save As PDF method, this will just "print" a PDF. > > Also, I always ask the question as to why the document must be in the PDF format. > > Take care, > Sean > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 7:20 AM Susan Kelmer > wrote: > There should be options, just like in Word for Windows. Save as, then click the options button, and make sure all the settings are correct. By default, those settings are all turned off, so you have to fix it. It should remember the changes for future documents. > > > > -Susan > > > > From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 8:14 AM > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > We have been contacted by an instructor who is trying to make her documents accessible. She uses a Mac, and when she creates a document in Word on the Mac and then saves it as a PDF, the headings do not carry over. I recall this being discussed in the past but can?t recall if there is a fix. Any ideas are most welcome. > > > > I found an article that suggested opening the Word document in Google Docs, going through the documents and ensuring all headings were there, and then downloading the document as a PDF. I haven?t tried this to see if it works, but would like a less complicated method, if there is one. > > > > Thanks all. > > > > Russell > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ejp10 at psu.edu Thu Jul 25 12:27:59 2019 From: ejp10 at psu.edu (Pyatt, Elizabeth J) Date: Thu Jul 25 12:28:36 2019 Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It may be that the instructor hasn?t had a chance to upgrade her version of Word. The ability of Mac Word to create a tagged PDF is relatively new (not until Office 2016 and perhaps tied to Office 365). The tool is a little different from the Windows version. Penn State has documentation at https://accessibility.psu.edu/microsoftoffice/microsoftofficepdfmac/ It also includes an alternate Open Office workflow. Hope this helps Ellizabeth On Jul 25, 2019, at 3:00 PM, athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu wrote: Message: 7 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 14:13:52 +0000 From: Russell Solowoniuk > To: "athen-list@u.washington.edu" > Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question Message-ID: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi everyone, We have been contacted by an instructor who is trying to make her documents accessible. She uses a Mac, and when she creates a document in Word on the Mac and then saves it as a PDF, the headings do not carry over. I recall this being discussed in the past but can?t recall if there is a fix. Any ideas are most welcome. I found an article that suggested opening the Word document in Google Docs, going through the documents and ensuring all headings were there, and then downloading the document as a PDF. I haven?t tried this to see if it works, but would like a less complicated method, if there is one. Thanks all. Russell =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D. Accessibility IT Consultant Teaching and Learning with Technology Penn State University ejp10@psu.edu, (814) 865-0805 or accessibility@psu.edu (main office) The 300 Building, 112 304 West College Avenue University Park, PA 16802 accessibility.psu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dandrews920 at comcast.net Thu Jul 25 15:41:18 2019 From: dandrews920 at comcast.net (David Andrews) Date: Thu Jul 25 15:41:30 2019 Subject: [Athen] Incoming Law student who uses Jaws and Braille In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One of the many lists I run is for blind lawyers, and a similar question was asked. Here is the relevant part of the response: My personal experience has been that WestLaw is slightly better than Lexis if you're using JAWS. For a long time, it was head and shoulders above, but Lexis has been catching up. Neither of them are fully accessible - i.e. searching within the citing references in WestLaw is cumbersome and copying with citation on both platforms is not available. Elizabeth At 11:41 AM 7/25/2019, you wrote: >Content-Language: en-US >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > >boundary="_000_SN6PR03MB3680555D00244F6807DAD650BDC10SN6PR03MB3680namp_" > >Good morning, > >Please can you give me some information on the >following online data bases and other questions for our incoming student. > >1. Has anyone worked with the >Westlaw/Lexis databases on line with Jaws and do >you have anything to share on how to database with Jaws. >2. Core Grammar ? has anyone used the Core >Grammar site with Jaws and can give me feedback on how it works. > >Thank you for your help. > >Best, > >Lorraine > >Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS >Assistant Director Disability and Access Services >Boston University >25 Buick Street 3rd Floor >Boston, MA 02215 >lnorwich@bu.edu (email) >617-353-3658 (vox) >617-353-9646 (fax) >www.bu.edu/disability (website) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Thu Jul 25 16:14:00 2019 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Thu Jul 25 16:15:01 2019 Subject: [Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT In-Reply-To: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF03309997E6@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> References: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> <201907172357.x6HNvFWS006596@mxout22.s.uw.edu> <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF03309997E6@MB2.FHDA.LEARN> Message-ID: Congratulations, Debee! Maybe there is hope for me after all! LOL! Heidi On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:26 PM Deborah Armstrong < armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu> wrote: > The idea of putting labels on stuff that isn?t in your office is so > obvious and so important; I need to make sure I?m doing it consistently! > Had I done this some things I didn?t want tossed would have remained! > > > > I?ve faced the bear and my office is all neat again. Kept lots of > commercially produced tactile graphics and modern Daisy players. Tossed all > old Braille, in-house produce tactiles, CD-based daisy players, weird > cables that no longer fit anything and parts to things that broke a long > time ago. I think real hoarders give up and can?t cope, so I must only be > a fake hoarder! > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Heidi Scher > *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2019 8:36 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Your opinions on keeping old AT > > > > I love reading all the purge stories! I do a similar process to what > Robert described. Unfortunately, w can't use the 2-year rule as we often > go more like 5 years between students who may need to use documents > requiring the PIAF and sometimes even braille. The main items I keep are > those big-dollar items - embossers and PIAFs, portable braille displays (as > long as they can still connect and work with a computer), portable > magnifiers. If it's less than $500 to replace and I haven't used it for 3-5 > years, it goes. I do put labels that say "before disposing of this item, > please ask Heidi" on things that can't stay in my office. > > > > Heidi > > > > > > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director - AT > > *she, her, hers* > > Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas > > 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 phone > 479.575.7445 fax > +++++++++++++++ > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 6:57 PM David Andrews > wrote: > > You might be able to find homes for some stuff. > In Minnesota our Tech Act program, called STAR > recycles obsolete technology, and gives stuff to > people who can use older technology. > > There are a number of projects that collect > Braille for African countries, and others. > > It is work, but it may ease your conscious. > > Dave > > At 10:21 AM 7/17/2019, you wrote: > >Content-Language: en-US > >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > > >boundary="_000_61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF032C13EE84MB2FHDALEARN_" > > > >Curious about others' opinions here. > > > >Over the years I've had a variety of deans, > >supervisors, bosses. Each time we switch to new management priorities > change. > > > >One boss will want us to spend money when we > >have it and buy as much equipment as possible. > >Another boss wants to clean out and throw away > >everything we haven't used in a few years. One > >boss worries about accommodating every student > >while another boss only worries if a student complains. > > > >The current management is on a massive cleanup > >canpaign so everything I don't want to see > >thrown away has migrated to my office. I have > >piles of stuff we "might need" someday but > >haven't used in a while. Before I could stop it > >a thirteen-volume Braille textbook was thrown > >away that was only used one quarter. Last year > >they nearly threw away my PIAF machine because > >nobody had seen me using it ? but I resurrected it in time. > > > >So when the cleanup started I grabbed stuff. Now > >I can hardly move I?m so ? ?er? stuffed with stuff in my office! > > > >But maybe like some previous bosses, I myself am > >a hoarder. Maybe I need to just say goodbye and move on. > > > >I email other departments asking if they want > >some wacky thing, like a Braille atlas of the > >world or an ancient but still working CCTV and get no response. > > > >I surplused three perfectly working Braille > >embossers a few years ago simply because I no > >longer had convenient parallel or serial ports. > >I couldn't take it home because that would have > >been stealing but it was probably broken up for > >scrap metal. And just yesterday I threw away all > >our CD-based Daisy players because nobody has > >requested one in at least four years. > > > >I do tend to hoard because it has served me > >well before. One of my friends still uses a > >large-print French-English dictionary, a massive > >thing I found at a flea market for a dollar. No doubt some school > surplused it. > > > >When I lost my job at TeleSensory, they were > >literally throwing Braille displays and Optacons > >in the dumpster. My husband and I snuck back > >after dark and loaded them in to our car. I gave > >away the Optacons to very grateful users and still use those displays > today. > >But I was young and poorer then; I?m not going > >to grab stuff that doesn?t belong to me, yet I hate to see it thrown out. > > > >Do you others tend to hang on to obsolete > >technology in case it might be needed? Or do you > >toss it out because after all you don't have space and don't want to > hoard. > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From solowoniukr at macewan.ca Fri Jul 26 07:41:58 2019 From: solowoniukr at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Fri Jul 26 07:42:47 2019 Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question In-Reply-To: References: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> Message-ID: Thank you to everyone who answered my question. This is exactly the information I was looking for! Cheryl, I?m not sure why the instructor wants to convert to PDF, but will ask. Hope you are all having a great summer! Best regards, Russell From: athen-list on behalf of "Sheryl E. Burgstahler" Reply-To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Date: Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 10:00 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question Russell, Why is the instructor converting their document to PDF when they already have an accessible Word document? Sheryl On Jul 25, 2019, at 7:13 AM, Russell Solowoniuk > wrote: Hi everyone, We have been contacted by an instructor who is trying to make her documents accessible. She uses a Mac, and when she creates a document in Word on the Mac and then saves it as a PDF, the headings do not carry over. I recall this being discussed in the past but can?t recall if there is a fix. Any ideas are most welcome. I found an article that suggested opening the Word document in Google Docs, going through the documents and ensuring all headings were there, and then downloading the document as a PDF. I haven?t tried this to see if it works, but would like a less complicated method, if there is one. Thanks all. Russell _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fathaulg at miamioh.edu Fri Jul 26 07:56:38 2019 From: fathaulg at miamioh.edu (Fathauer, Laura) Date: Fri Jul 26 07:57:04 2019 Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question In-Reply-To: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> References: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> Message-ID: FYI- Downloading a google doc to PDF still (in my tests) produces an untagged PDF. Laura Laura Fathauer, WAS Web Content Accessibility Specialist Miami University IT Services 316B Shriver Center Oxford, OH 45056 Tel: 513.529.3559 Fax: 513.529.1496 On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:19 AM Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > > We have been contacted by an instructor who is trying to make her > documents accessible. She uses a Mac, and when she creates a document in > Word on the Mac and then saves it as a PDF, the headings do not carry over. > I recall this being discussed in the past but can?t recall if there is a > fix. Any ideas are most welcome. > > > > I found an article that suggested opening the Word document in Google > Docs, going through the documents and ensuring all headings were there, and > then downloading the document as a PDF. I haven?t tried this to see if it > works, but would like a less complicated method, if there is one. > > > > Thanks all. > > > > Russell > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From solowoniukr at macewan.ca Fri Jul 26 07:59:16 2019 From: solowoniukr at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Fri Jul 26 07:59:46 2019 Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi again, Apparently the instructor is using the method described here, but when she selects ?optimal for electronic/ accessible?, she receives the message that her file is too big. Any ideas? Thanks, Russell From: athen-list on behalf of "Pyatt, Elizabeth J" Reply-To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Date: Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 1:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question It may be that the instructor hasn?t had a chance to upgrade her version of Word. The ability of Mac Word to create a tagged PDF is relatively new (not until Office 2016 and perhaps tied to Office 365). The tool is a little different from the Windows version. Penn State has documentation at https://accessibility.psu.edu/microsoftoffice/microsoftofficepdfmac/ It also includes an alternate Open Office workflow. Hope this helps Ellizabeth On Jul 25, 2019, at 3:00 PM, athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu wrote: Message: 7 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 14:13:52 +0000 From: Russell Solowoniuk > To: "athen-list@u.washington.edu" > Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question Message-ID: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi everyone, We have been contacted by an instructor who is trying to make her documents accessible. She uses a Mac, and when she creates a document in Word on the Mac and then saves it as a PDF, the headings do not carry over. I recall this being discussed in the past but can?t recall if there is a fix. Any ideas are most welcome. I found an article that suggested opening the Word document in Google Docs, going through the documents and ensuring all headings were there, and then downloading the document as a PDF. I haven?t tried this to see if it works, but would like a less complicated method, if there is one. Thanks all. Russell =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D. Accessibility IT Consultant Teaching and Learning with Technology Penn State University ejp10@psu.edu, (814) 865-0805 or accessibility@psu.edu (main office) The 300 Building, 112 304 West College Avenue University Park, PA 16802 accessibility.psu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at ccctechcenter.org Fri Jul 26 08:06:49 2019 From: skeegan at ccctechcenter.org (Sean Keegan) Date: Fri Jul 26 08:07:13 2019 Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question In-Reply-To: References: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> Message-ID: > Downloading a google doc to PDF still (in my tests) produces an untagged PDF. To get a tagged PDF document out of Google Docs, you need to use the Grackle Docs add-on (see https://www.grackledocs.com/). The Grackle Docs add-on is free for checking the accessibility of a Google Docs file, but you need to have a paid plan if you want to then export to PDF. If you are a higher ed institution, the pricing is fantastically low for a site license. Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From solowoniukr at macewan.ca Fri Jul 26 08:29:12 2019 From: solowoniukr at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Fri Jul 26 08:29:46 2019 Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question In-Reply-To: References: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> Message-ID: <6C981F5B-1BC9-4B9D-B738-02A759093A57@macewan.ca> Thanks for this info Sean! Russell From: athen-list on behalf of Sean Keegan Reply-To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Date: Friday, July 26, 2019 at 9:08 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question > Downloading a google doc to PDF still (in my tests) produces an untagged PDF. To get a tagged PDF document out of Google Docs, you need to use the Grackle Docs add-on (see https://www.grackledocs.com/). The Grackle Docs add-on is free for checking the accessibility of a Google Docs file, but you need to have a paid plan if you want to then export to PDF. If you are a higher ed institution, the pricing is fantastically low for a site license. Take care, Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Fri Jul 26 09:01:19 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Fri Jul 26 09:01:33 2019 Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question In-Reply-To: References: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> <12DD71A7-16A2-4DB8-9426-E99D78F80718@uw.edu> Message-ID: Most faculty tell me they want a PDF so the student can?t change anything. I remind them that a student changing a faculty-issued document is an honor code violation and should be reported as such, that it isn?t their problem to solve. I also ask them if they?ve ever known of a time when the student changed something and got away with it. Usually none of them have ever encountered a problem. Also, they were usually told by another faculty member to protect their materials by creating a PDF, but there is no real evidence that changing of a Word file by a student is an actual thing or is used often. Then I remind them that a Word document is ultimately the MOST accessible document for any student, and to just publish in Word whenever possible. Of if they insist, I tell them to post both the Word and the PDF, and the student can pick what they want. Like Sean said, we still have a looooong way to go. There are rumors, myths, and other obfuscations that make it so much more difficult on us. On the plus side, none of us will be unemployed any time soon! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 9:46 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question > And, Sean, what is the most common response > when you ask faculty why the want a document in PDF? Generally, the response has been so that the document can't be changed. That said, I have started hearing lately that faculty are saving as PDF "because they were told it's now accessible." Still much work to be done... Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smarositz at csudh.edu Fri Jul 26 10:13:29 2019 From: smarositz at csudh.edu (Stephen (Alex) Marositz) Date: Fri Jul 26 10:13:56 2019 Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question In-Reply-To: References: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> <12DD71A7-16A2-4DB8-9426-E99D78F80718@uw.edu> Message-ID: Hi All I?ve been thinking about this too. Since the viewers for office applications have gone away, see https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/979860/supported-versions-of-the-office-viewers It hardly seems appropriate to ask instructors and other content contributors to publish in Word only. Yes, the mobile versions of the apps are free but few actually know that. So, what format other than PDF would be appropriate? I am asking this even though I know that PDF, forms in particular, are in accessible in oSX, iOS, Android and Chrome OS. As of now,, my training is to publish accessible PDF and include a statement like, if you would like this document in an alternative format, contact us at### Is there something better we should be doing? Thanks Stephen Alex Marositz ATI Coordinator CSUDH Ext 3077 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 9:01 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question CAUTION: This email originated from outside of CSUDH. Do not click links or open attachments unless you validate the sender and know the content is safe. Please forward this email to iso@csudh.edu if you believe this email is suspicious. Most faculty tell me they want a PDF so the student can?t change anything. I remind them that a student changing a faculty-issued document is an honor code violation and should be reported as such, that it isn?t their problem to solve. I also ask them if they?ve ever known of a time when the student changed something and got away with it. Usually none of them have ever encountered a problem. Also, they were usually told by another faculty member to protect their materials by creating a PDF, but there is no real evidence that changing of a Word file by a student is an actual thing or is used often. Then I remind them that a Word document is ultimately the MOST accessible document for any student, and to just publish in Word whenever possible. Of if they insist, I tell them to post both the Word and the PDF, and the student can pick what they want. Like Sean said, we still have a looooong way to go. There are rumors, myths, and other obfuscations that make it so much more difficult on us. On the plus side, none of us will be unemployed any time soon! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 9:46 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question > And, Sean, what is the most common response > when you ask faculty why the want a document in PDF? Generally, the response has been so that the document can't be changed. That said, I have started hearing lately that faculty are saving as PDF "because they were told it's now accessible." Still much work to be done... Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Fri Jul 26 10:27:44 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Fri Jul 26 10:28:02 2019 Subject: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question In-Reply-To: References: <16AC17A9-4ECA-4822-A29B-D408F8B23549@macewan.ca> <12DD71A7-16A2-4DB8-9426-E99D78F80718@uw.edu> Message-ID: Microsoft office is still the standard on most campuses and ubiquitous in corporations and organizations around the world. This makes it a de facto standard, in my mind. Yes, many campuses are also using Google docs, as well, but in the end, the use of Word is a standard and what instructors are looking for in submitted work. That may change in the future, but for now, this is the norm. Also, this is why I suggest to faculty that they provide BOTH versions ? the one in Word, and the one in PDF. The student who wants PDF can use that one, and the student who prefers Word can use that one. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Stephen (Alex) Marositz Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 11:13 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question Hi All I?ve been thinking about this too. Since the viewers for office applications have gone away, see https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/979860/supported-versions-of-the-office-viewers It hardly seems appropriate to ask instructors and other content contributors to publish in Word only. Yes, the mobile versions of the apps are free but few actually know that. So, what format other than PDF would be appropriate? I am asking this even though I know that PDF, forms in particular, are in accessible in oSX, iOS, Android and Chrome OS. As of now,, my training is to publish accessible PDF and include a statement like, if you would like this document in an alternative format, contact us at### Is there something better we should be doing? Thanks Stephen Alex Marositz ATI Coordinator CSUDH Ext 3077 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 9:01 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question CAUTION: This email originated from outside of CSUDH. Do not click links or open attachments unless you validate the sender and know the content is safe. Please forward this email to iso@csudh.edu if you believe this email is suspicious. Most faculty tell me they want a PDF so the student can?t change anything. I remind them that a student changing a faculty-issued document is an honor code violation and should be reported as such, that it isn?t their problem to solve. I also ask them if they?ve ever known of a time when the student changed something and got away with it. Usually none of them have ever encountered a problem. Also, they were usually told by another faculty member to protect their materials by creating a PDF, but there is no real evidence that changing of a Word file by a student is an actual thing or is used often. Then I remind them that a Word document is ultimately the MOST accessible document for any student, and to just publish in Word whenever possible. Of if they insist, I tell them to post both the Word and the PDF, and the student can pick what they want. Like Sean said, we still have a looooong way to go. There are rumors, myths, and other obfuscations that make it so much more difficult on us. On the plus side, none of us will be unemployed any time soon! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 9:46 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Word for Mac headings question > And, Sean, what is the most common response > when you ask faculty why the want a document in PDF? Generally, the response has been so that the document can't be changed. That said, I have started hearing lately that faculty are saving as PDF "because they were told it's now accessible." Still much work to be done... Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lissner.2 at osu.edu Sat Jul 27 19:20:10 2019 From: lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, Scott) Date: Sat Jul 27 19:20:26 2019 Subject: [Athen] Twentieth Annual Multiple Perspectives: Building Blocks for the Future of Access, Inclusion & Disability April 6-7, 2020 Message-ID: https://ada.osu.edu/multiple-perspectives-conference/20th-annual-conference To celebrate the tenth anniversary of the Americans With Disabilities Act the Ohio State University?s new ADA Coordinator held the first Multiple Perspectives on Access, Inclusion & Disability conference. Conceived as a place for our community to gather and explore and learn about disability as a construct, an identity, and as a shared experience Multiple Perspectives became an ongoing conversation between lived experience and research; theory and practice; pragmatics and aspiration. The theme of the first Multiple Perspectives conference, The Next 10 years, invited a look ahead from the first decade of the ADA. As we look forward to the thirtieth anniversary of the ADA, I invite you to reflect on the themes from past Multiple Perspectives conferences as Building Blocks for the Future of Access, Inclusion & Disability. Past Conferences 1. The Next 10 Years 2. Disability in Context 3. Access by Design 4. Education, Citizenship, and Disability 5. Reflecting on Sameness and Difference 6. Personal Perspectives & Social Impact: The Stories We Tell 7. Rights, Responsibilities & Social Change 8. Looking Back & Thinking Ahead 9. Change, Challenge & Collaboration 10. Future History 11. From Policy to Practice 12. Experience Understood in Image, Poetry, Narrative & Research 13. Intersections and Independence 14. More Important Things 15. Celebrate Our Progress and Write Our Future 16. Who We Are 17. Seeing Disability at School, Work, & Beyond 18. What I Know 19. Looking Back to Think Ahead https://ada.osu.edu/multiple-perspectives-conference/20th-annual-conference L. Scott Lissner, The Ohio State University ADA Coordinator and 504 Compliance Officer Associate, John Glenn School of Public Affairs Lecturer, Knowlton School of Architecture, Moritz College of Law & Disability Studies (614) 292-6207(v); (614) 688-8605(tty) (614) 688-3665(fax); Http://ada.osu.edu 21 East 11th Ave., Columbus, Ohio. 43210 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gian at accessibilityoz.com Sun Jul 28 15:42:28 2019 From: gian at accessibilityoz.com (Gian Wild) Date: Sun Jul 28 15:42:55 2019 Subject: [Athen] Mobile Testing Workshop at Stanford University Message-ID: Hi ATHEN (apologies for cross-posting) We're excited to be running a full-day workshop on Mobile Accessibility Testing at Stanford University next month, and we'd love to see you there! This workshop will teach attendees what to test for on their mobile sites, as well as provide an opportunity to practice hands-on accessibility testing over different mobile platforms. This is valuable knowledge for anyone who works online. Join us at Stanford University on Friday, August 9th to expand your digital accessibility experience. See you soon! Cheers, Gian Gian Wild, CEO AccessibilityOz Company Twitter: @accessibilityoz Email: gian@accessibilityoz.com United States: (415) 621 9366 - Cell: (646) 785 3689 Australia: (03) 8652 1145 - Mobile: 042 442 6262 Twitter: @gian - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gianwild/ Products: OzART: our fully accessible automated testing tool OzPlayer: our fully accessible video player OzWiki: our database of accessibility errors, examples and solutions -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joe at a11yeval.com Tue Jul 30 11:29:58 2019 From: joe at a11yeval.com (joe@a11yeval.com) Date: Tue Jul 30 11:30:29 2019 Subject: [Athen] WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey #8 Message-ID: <155901d54704$cb0dfaf0$6129f0d0$@a11yeval.com> Sharing the new WebAIM survey. I think this kind of thing is helpful. I wish there were more surveys of this kind that targeted the larger accessibility population as a whole and were done in collaboration with independent disability advocacy groups. Please participate if you can to help further the collective knowledge of current user experiences so that we may all provide more accessible and usable experiences for people of diverse abilities. Thankx, Joe Humbert Accessibility Advocate Disclaimer: I work for The Paciello Group as a Senior Accessibility Engineer. But I am proud of the work TPG does to help push accessibility forward. _____ A new Screen Reader User Survey is now available at https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey8/. If you use a screen reader, please complete this brief survey. Your responses provide valuable data and promote better accessibility and standards. It's important that respondents to the survey be from a broad population of screen reader users. Please help us spread the word by sharing on social media, to assistive technology discussion lists, and in person. Thanks, Jared Smith WebAIM.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Tue Jul 30 14:01:26 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Tue Jul 30 14:01:53 2019 Subject: [Athen] New cool support for Braille displays in NVDA Message-ID: <61C6DD490FBB3D43A1AA33BF158ED7AF03309AB4B3@MB1.FHDA.LEARN> In researching the best ways to learn Spanish with a screen reader, I ran across a cool fairly new add-on for NVDA called Braille extender. Some background: JAWS supports some Braille displays: Alva, Baum, Humanware and of course their own Focus line plus the old Braille Lite. But Vispero would much rather have you buy their hardware than write drivers for older Braille displays or those that are manufactured by companies that didn't want to pay to have their drivers digitally signed - see https://support.freedomscientific.com/About/News/Article/70 So quite a few Braille displays exist that JAWS doesn't support. But NVDA supports nearly every Braille display because those for which it doesn't have direct drivers, it uses BRLTTY, an open-source set of drivers ported from Linux. Unfortunately, the NVDA support for Braille wasn't quite as feature-rich as JAWS. So if you liked using a Braille display or due to hearing loss, had to use a Braille display, you were better off with the more robust feature list JAWS provided. That's changing slowly, and I was delighted to discover this new add-on, Braille extender which lets you easily switch Braille tables, auto-scroll, read BRF files, and do a ton of other cool things. With auto-scrolling you press a key and the display automatically advances to the next segment of text. You can speed or slow the scroll rate and it makes reading much easier. With the table switching, I can press a button to go from English UEB, to Spanish Grade 1 to English Grade 2, to English computer Braille. This makes it super handy for reading content for which the table you need keeps changing. A book on computer programming or learning a language for example is much easier to read if you can switch tables on the fly. Like everything from the NVDA project, it's free. I am now happily reading a Spanish For Dummies on the Kindle app and a book on programming in Python using an old Telesensory Navigator Braille display - one of the very first ones in existence - manufactured in 1990! The full feature list is here: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/brailleExtender.en.html P.S. If you have to set up Brltty to talk to an old display it can be a bit tricky, but it does work in Windows 10 1903 provided you have a supported USB-To-Serial cable, have your Braille display's baud rate and other parameters matching Brltty, have the latest Brltty compiled for Windows and are willing to put in some time troubleshooting. Sometimes I fear everything I know is deprecated and sometimes it does come in plenty handy! --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: