[Athen] Equatio price increase

Michele Bromley michele.bromley at pdx.edu
Fri Jun 7 11:51:32 PDT 2019


Susan,

The pricing system only applies to the API service. The downloadable
snipping tool itself is currently free (though it sounds as if they are
planning to charge for the snip app with their next release). You shouldn't
need to click the accept button or input any credit card information to
download the snipping tool. The links to the MacOS Snipping Tool
<https://mathpix.com/dmg/snip.dmg>, Windows Snipping Tool
<https://mathpix.com/win_app/mathpix_snipping_tool_setup.exe>, and Ubuntu
Snipping Tool <https://snapcraft.io/mathpix-snipping-tool> are in the
footer.

The snipping tool wouldn't work as a standalone option for accessible math
production; it would still need to be used in concert with MathType. But
between the two, most of the alternative format production functionalities
(for which you would use EquatIO) are covered.

Best,

Michele

Michele Joy Bromley

IT Accessibility Coordinator

Office of Information Technology (OIT) <https://www.pdx.edu/oit/>

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On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 6:46 AM Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>
wrote:


> Hi Michele.

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> When I went to take a look, it basically wanted my credit card info. It

> is only free up to 1000 uses, from what I can tell. So we’d use it up on

> two chapters of a calc book, which makes this unsustainable for most

> people, I think.

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>

> *Susan Kelmer*

>

> *Alternate Format Production Program Manager*

>

> *Disability Services*

>

> *University of Colorado Boulder*

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> *303-735-4836*

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> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On

> Behalf Of *Michele Bromley

> *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2019 4:19 PM

> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network <

> athen-list at u.washington.edu>

> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Equatio price increase

>

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>

> I haven't done a lot of testing with Mathpix OCR

> <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1IDa-BLFk02ED3DfkZCs2KR_IL3jFaKj5azGhaiJ_MnNlkPF7ZhgFQln-ozXtes8s5axNW-8uT4OoFIAg5UIYce0xPmpMnCGNlPdXnGRquxiKOBE-lUvGlbNaFvJrtDmFR9WkwiS47ZkxTggnzAzdwBJru1pwxftNWRTSRZnKi4yhfbxNMYgnVs5FbIwazVnyqXnqXZmTD4-5Frt2J1OaMoZ4PkC0BoyQirEVvMQWz1kTvhw7ULjjJquZFOw2cmAXbUmasH4zBVKb0PiHxnRzDzJAhpbpdj5fk7Hbq-Zx-BuDJlfLZiImpyUOC1ESTpqsVfLQ9lHTmYKvR6tg4WHek6BxNiWKj4gKfZH_3CI7DuGA_wmcQ9GUIrnPJoGdp7l34NW-Ee_FLKdsPLM_YoApaEAATis7GTUmKe1XyNwEoERnM9yHkJ-jotiybOvxVqA5E-MiSW9IcybbZWedNDfPEUNwoT8p6A-zH4ACDcDWdZM/https%3A%2F%2Fmathpix.com%2Focr>

> yet, but coupled with MathType, their Windows snipping tool

> <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1-sdlQS_B4PNw45G710XIZdX-G4Zj8dqaIr13XZK4w5wNaKz9NgXYVAsz3TLBDmdCsoolwEpKnQ2IcFIq6690r-H1NsEeGDc0Sw5Xyjs-_7oJ0rQrNiMt3eoAqSV-IkrUHEDKjrEVNZPZ86Z57zwEtCQ3EfFmKJlpZ5T27eGbCkUFJliI3ceKWSDNyBA71xo6vOGMtccul1X7B5eqk_ed6ToKSZ9BIiKdk_fPA1nmxtSG5Su6Q_85v2w3rYevxjjnjFFXTAJofeyvAlxBI_jPEglx0I7ZF7nrpq_ew0XPl6XBKnmNRfOcOmWGi1fVbytUZqpEyklAQEwSKGqmLIITTvZ5CiegDRe6EIsLLHkTJo9tPF3fAoum9bfXkzdSqtw---FoG9tnL3Us4JyigOBhYGS30O3GphSw3tcGCw_MQYTRp3NqWCrXc_8hBI2OkRDfkMYqFdSwM3bCTSTLsXunNxcHoU9WwbwHeiN2N1BQ0LU/https%3A%2F%2Fmathpix.com%2Fwin_app%2Fmathpix_snipping_tool_setup.exe>

> appears to be solid alternative to EquatIO for the alt. formats production

> side of things.

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>

> *Michele Joy Bromley*

>

> IT Accessibility Coordinator

>

> Office of Information Technology (OIT) <https://www.pdx.edu/oit/>

>

> Portland State University (PSU) <http://www.pdx.edu/>

>

> [image: The Portland State University logo includes intertwined letters P,

> S, and U that represent the interconnectedness of the university to the

> city, region, and world.] <http://www.pdx.edu/>

>

>

>

> Office: SMSU 18

>

> Phone: 503-725-8395

>

> Email: michele.bromley at pdx.edu

>

> Website: www.pdx.edu/accessibility

>

>

>

> *“The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone

> regardless of disability is an essential aspect.” ~ Tim Berners-Lee*

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>

> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 10:09 AM Cassandra L Tex <

> cassandra.tex at humboldt.edu> wrote:

>

> Greetings All,

>

> Shortly after the EquatIO webinar that Susan and Texthelp

>

> presented, we jumped on the EquatIO ship (we are also a Read&Write

> campus). Our subscription will renew in July, and I have not heard of a

> pricing change. Perhaps this pricing change is for new customers? I’m

> sorry to hear that they changed their pricing and they are pricing new

> customers out of the market. Will be on the lookout for communications

> from them regarding renewal pricing.

>

>

>

> Cassandra

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> On Thursday, May 30, 2019, Wink Harner <foreigntype at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Leyna et al ATHEN-ites,

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>

> It is discouraging when we are finally presented with Susan Kelmer

> identified as "a game changer" in alt-text conversion technology for math

> and the developer prices it out of reach, so much so that it becomes an

> unjustifiable expense. What a shame TextHelp has deliberately changed their

> pricing structure on Equatio. You and I and many hundreds of others who are

> in alt-text production to make materials accessible for students with

> disabilities are intermediaries in the sales & marketing pitch from

> TextHelp --their aim is large scale, open site licenses on campuses for

> their students...Not for us making things accessible for the students.

> Perhaps TH sees us as incidental in their sales plan? As hard as we in DSS

> work to forecast tech needs for our departments and our students, how much

> of a challenge it is for us to plan our department budgets over years'

> (mine was prepared in 1-3-5 year cycles), to plan our staff time based on

> cost to produce accessible materials, staff time etc., our break even point

> is now out of sight! I hope someone at TextHelp pays attention to this

> thread and they reconsider this pricing structure.

>

>

>

> Sorry to hear this news from you. Many of us in the production field were

> looking forward to using and promoting this app. I introduced it in this

> year's grad class curriculum at CUNY, but may consider shelving it with the

> "also ran" apps --with a BIG disclaimer about the pricing. I try to provide

> students with alternatives such as free, low cost, or open source software

> available to the big ticket software to explore as part of the class. There

> are few alternatives to making math accessible for BVI or those with

> reading disabilities who need bi-modal text & audio output. I won't be able

> to give anything to compare it to, so it may be take out of my curriculum.

>

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>

> My thoughts.

>

>

>

> Wink Harner

>

> Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production

>

> The Foreign Type

>

> Portland OR

> foreigntype at gmail.com

> 480-984-0034

>

> This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive

> quirks, misrecognitions, or errata .

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> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 8:57 AM Leyna Bencomo <lbencomo at uccs.edu> wrote:

>

> I am very disappointed in the TextHelp people right now. They have

> completely revamped their pricing for Equatio. They initially told me

> $1500 for 150 licenses per year. That was the minimum. I was planning to

> get our Math college, Office of IT and Disability Services to pay for it.

> After hearing how we Alternate Media departments are planning to use the

> licenses, TextHelp has changed their minds now and decided they have to

> treat it like Read & Write enterprise licensing. Since we have 12,000

> students at UCCS and since we do subscribe to Read & Write they are now

> planning to charge us $3690 per year to subscribe. If we didn’t have R&W,

> they’d charge $4920 per year. We can’t afford that just to remediate a

> couple of math books a year. I’m going to recommend we don’t purchase it.

>

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>

>

> We truly would only use 2 licenses in Alt Media and at this point 1

> student license for a math student who can’t use his hands to write. I

> can’t justify the expense. Oh well, so much for new technology.

> Hopefully, one of their competitors will come up with similar tech soon at

> a more reasonable price. For now, back to MathType for us.

>

>

>

> *Leyna Bencomo *

>

> Assistive Technology Specialist

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> Office of Information Technology

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