From Doug.Mantle at kings.uwo.ca Fri Nov 1 06:20:02 2019 From: Doug.Mantle at kings.uwo.ca (Doug Mantle) Date: Fri Nov 1 06:20:12 2019 Subject: [Athen] Accessible course syllabi template? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2B7730A6FD2DFE499F4A8A1099627D8D6B353BAD@kucexch01.kings.kucits.ca> Good day! There is an open source project called SALSA ? Styled & Accessible Learning Services Agreement. I am passing along some information about this project on behalf of George Joeckel who is one of the developers, as he isn?t presently on this discussion list. Please see below and reach out to George directly if you have any questions?. https://salsa4he.com Here is a recent short video from a client using Salsa with Blackboard: Salsa Introduction | Cowley Community College (2:45). We also have an integration with Canvas. Another good resource is the Salsa Features online doc. And anyone can use Salsa with no account by going to http://syllabustool.com/. My contact info is: George Joeckel * Email: george@salsa4he.com * Mobile: 435-363-5902 Doug Mantle, Assistive Technology Support Specialist, STARS Learning Lab Co-ordinator Accessibility, Counselling and Student Development - Accessibility Services - Student Affairs King's University College at Western University 266 Epworth Avenue London, Ontario, Canada N6A 2M3 P. 519-433-3491 ext. 4579 | P. 1-800-265-4406 | F. 519-963-1013 Doug.Mantle@Kings.UWO.ca | www.kings.uwo.ca Please be advised that this email is only monitored during regular office hours. During peak times of the academic year, replies may take 2-3 days. If your matter is urgent, please contact the Accessibility, Counselling and Student Development office at 519-433-3491 extension 4321 or acsd@kings.uwo.ca or Wemple room 151. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible course syllabi template? Thanks so much Shelley! I?ll check out these resources. Have a great day, Russell From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Shelley Haven Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 6:01 PM To: ATHEN > Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible course syllabi template? I recently came across the following helpful resources when creating a syllabus for my own course: Accessible Syllabus (Tulane University) https://www.accessiblesyllabus.com Make a More Inclusive Syllabus with Tulane?s Accessible Syllabus Project https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/make-a-more-inclusive-syllabus-with-tulanes-accessible-syllabus-project/62386 Accessible Syllabus Template (Temple University) https://accessibility.temple.edu/how-materials/accessible-materials/accessible-syllabus-template Includes a downloadable "Template for Creating an Accessible Syllabus" in Word Accessible Syllabus (University of Minnesota) https://accessibility.umn.edu/instructors/accessible-syllabus Hope these help, Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Oct 30, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Russell Solowoniuk > wrote: Hi everyone, Is anyone using an accessible course syllabi template they?d be willing to share with us so we could modify it for our own use. We have instructors who create their syllabi using the tab key in place of tables, and this makes for a not very accessible syllabus. Thanks for any help or ideas. Russell Russell Solowoniuk AT Educational Assistant, Services to Students with Disabilities MacEwan University 7-198 D4, 10700-104 Ave. Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca T: 780-497-5826 F: 780-497-4018 macewan.ca This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Please consider the environment before printing this email We acknowledge that the land on which we gather in Treaty Six Territory is the traditional gathering place for many Indigenous people. 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We have asked IT to create sort of dedicated "dummy"email accounts for this log in purpose but this is against their policy. Ultimately we allow students to log in ask them to not access other material and proctor via camera or eyes on. About the Windows tool though. Its not that bad if you DONT BYPASS interactive tutorial and use a USB headset. The interactive tutorial is a essentially a requirement for active use. This would require prep before a test either in the testing center or via a laptop provided "clean" to the testing center and set up in advance. There is no easy solution here that I know of. This is a problem for other accommodations as well, more and more AT requires online access. Where are our engineers and software developers out there? We have a project for you! Happy Friday! On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 12:05 PM Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) < hunziker@email.arizona.edu> wrote: > Hi all, > > We often have students request voice input/recognition for exam > accommodations. We were relying on Dragon until we discovered and > implemented the Dictate option within Microsoft Word. The Dictate option > worked great because it was easy to find and use, didn't require another > software to have open for exams and it worked for pretty much anyone that > used it, in a way they are familiar with - turn it on and talk. > > Now, for a few hiccups: > > 1. The plugin for Office 2016 is no longer available and no longer works > 2. The option is not available for Office 2019 > 3. Office 365 has it but Internet access is required to use the feature > (as we all know, not a good choice for exam situations). > 4. MS says to use the Dictation (Windows Speech Recognition) built into > Windows 10 but this still has the same issues with recognition results that > I've seen in the past. > > So, we are back to the planning stage and wanted to reach out to see what > is being used in other units for exams and voice input. Thoughts? > > Dawn > > ~~ > Dawn Hunziker > IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources > The University of Arizona | hunziker@email.arizona.edu hunziker@email.arizona.edu> > drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu< > http://itaccessibility.arizona.edu/> > 520-626-9409 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Erik Ferguson Alternative Media Technician PCC Disability Services Assistive Technology Team Contact us for questions and support at: Phone: 971-722-TECH (971-722-8324) access-tech-group@pcc.edu *Please Note: I am not in office Tuesday or Thursday. For immediate response please use the email and number listed in signature above.* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From travis at travisroth.com Fri Nov 1 11:23:35 2019 From: travis at travisroth.com (Travis Roth) Date: Fri Nov 1 11:23:43 2019 Subject: [Athen] Dragon vs Microsoft Dictate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <043601d590e1$79d8f280$6d8ad780$@travisroth.com> For what it is worth, Apple?s new Voice Control feature in iOS 13, not to be confused with the earlier dictating into edit fields option, can be used without an internet connection. Not sure about using it on MacOS. But on iOS I have turned on Airplane mode and used Voice Control successfully. It seems to manage ok considering I?ve never done a Dragon-style voice training with it. Travis From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Erik Ferguson Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 12:47 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon vs Microsoft Dictate To tell you the truth, we also have moved to Google Voice Typing/Google docs for most speech recognition needs. I also noticed a similar dictation tool for office 365 but we use it less at our institution and yes, you need to be online and yes this is a potential problem. We have asked IT to create sort of dedicated "dummy"email accounts for this log in purpose but this is against their policy. Ultimately we allow students to log in ask them to not access other material and proctor via camera or eyes on. About the Windows tool though. Its not that bad if you DONT BYPASS interactive tutorial and use a USB headset. The interactive tutorial is a essentially a requirement for active use. This would require prep before a test either in the testing center or via a laptop provided "clean" to the testing center and set up in advance. There is no easy solution here that I know of. This is a problem for other accommodations as well, more and more AT requires online access. Where are our engineers and software developers out there? We have a project for you! Happy Friday! On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 12:05 PM Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) > wrote: Hi all, We often have students request voice input/recognition for exam accommodations. We were relying on Dragon until we discovered and implemented the Dictate option within Microsoft Word. The Dictate option worked great because it was easy to find and use, didn't require another software to have open for exams and it worked for pretty much anyone that used it, in a way they are familiar with - turn it on and talk. Now, for a few hiccups: 1. The plugin for Office 2016 is no longer available and no longer works 2. The option is not available for Office 2019 3. Office 365 has it but Internet access is required to use the feature (as we all know, not a good choice for exam situations). 4. MS says to use the Dictation (Windows Speech Recognition) built into Windows 10 but this still has the same issues with recognition results that I've seen in the past. So, we are back to the planning stage and wanted to reach out to see what is being used in other units for exams and voice input. Thoughts? Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@email.arizona.edu > drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Erik Ferguson Alternative Media Technician PCC Disability Services Assistive Technology Team Contact us for questions and support at: Phone: 971-722-TECH (971-722-8324) access-tech-group@pcc.edu Please Note: I am not in office Tuesday or Thursday. For immediate response please use the email and number listed in signature above. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erik.ferguson at pcc.edu Fri Nov 1 11:32:28 2019 From: erik.ferguson at pcc.edu (Erik Ferguson) Date: Fri Nov 1 11:33:06 2019 Subject: [Athen] Dragon vs Microsoft Dictate In-Reply-To: <043601d590e1$79d8f280$6d8ad780$@travisroth.com> References: <043601d590e1$79d8f280$6d8ad780$@travisroth.com> Message-ID: Thanks Travis! I love love the new Voice control feature in iOS 13 (It has excellent command and control capability, easily rivals Dragon and I've been meaning to tell folks to have no fear about Dragon Dictate for Mac no longer being supported because Catalina's got your back!) but hadn't tried it in airplane mode. Cool. It should be equivalent in MacOS Catalina but our Macs here are not quite that up to date. Best On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:25 AM Travis Roth wrote: > For what it is worth, Apple?s new Voice Control feature in iOS 13, not to > be confused with the earlier dictating into edit fields option, can be used > without an internet connection. > > Not sure about using it on MacOS. But on iOS I have turned on Airplane > mode and used Voice Control successfully. It seems to manage ok considering > I?ve never done a Dragon-style voice training with it. > > Travis > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Erik Ferguson > *Sent:* Friday, November 1, 2019 12:47 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Dragon vs Microsoft Dictate > > > > To tell you the truth, we also have moved to Google Voice Typing/Google > docs for most speech recognition needs. I also noticed a similar dictation > tool for office 365 but we use it less at our institution and yes, you need > to be online and yes this is a potential problem. We have asked IT to > create sort of dedicated "dummy"email accounts for this log in purpose but > this is against their policy. Ultimately we allow students to log in > ask them to not access other material and proctor via camera or eyes on. > About the Windows tool though. Its not that bad if you DONT BYPASS > interactive tutorial and use a USB headset. The interactive tutorial is a > essentially a requirement for active use. This would require prep before a > test either in the testing center or via a laptop provided "clean" to the > testing center and set up in advance. There is no easy solution here that I > know of. This is a problem for other accommodations as well, more and more > AT requires online access. Where are our engineers and software developers > out there? We have a project for you! Happy Friday! > > > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 12:05 PM Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) < > hunziker@email.arizona.edu> wrote: > > Hi all, > > We often have students request voice input/recognition for exam > accommodations. We were relying on Dragon until we discovered and > implemented the Dictate option within Microsoft Word. The Dictate option > worked great because it was easy to find and use, didn't require another > software to have open for exams and it worked for pretty much anyone that > used it, in a way they are familiar with - turn it on and talk. > > Now, for a few hiccups: > > 1. The plugin for Office 2016 is no longer available and no longer works > 2. The option is not available for Office 2019 > 3. Office 365 has it but Internet access is required to use the feature > (as we all know, not a good choice for exam situations). > 4. MS says to use the Dictation (Windows Speech Recognition) built into > Windows 10 but this still has the same issues with recognition results that > I've seen in the past. > > So, we are back to the planning stage and wanted to reach out to see what > is being used in other units for exams and voice input. Thoughts? > > Dawn > > ~~ > Dawn Hunziker > IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources > The University of Arizona | hunziker@email.arizona.edu hunziker@email.arizona.edu> > drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu< > http://itaccessibility.arizona.edu/> > 520-626-9409 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > -- > > Erik Ferguson > > Alternative Media Technician > > PCC Disability Services Assistive Technology Team > > Contact us for questions and support at: > > Phone: 971-722-TECH (971-722-8324) > > access-tech-group@pcc.edu > > *Please Note: I am not in office Tuesday or Thursday. For immediate > response please use the email and number listed in signature above.* > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Erik Ferguson Alternative Media Technician PCC Disability Services Assistive Technology Team Contact us for questions and support at: Phone: 971-722-TECH (971-722-8324) access-tech-group@pcc.edu *Please Note: I am not in office Tuesday or Thursday. For immediate response please use the email and number listed in signature above.* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The Chief Compliance Officer partners with senior leaders and compliance personnel to ensure compliance with institutional, regulatory, and legal obligations, as well as the highest standards of ethics and integrity. With dual reporting lines to the Vice President for University Initiatives and the President of the University, the Chief Compliance Officer is well-positioned to promote institutional compliance. Compliance is of the highest importance to the University's senior leaders. Compliance professionals at the University are smart, engaged, and collaborative. As a relatively new office, the Chief Compliance Officer will have the opportunity to continue to build an effective structure for compliance at the University. ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@email.arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ [sig logo small] From: athen-list On Behalf Of Sorensen, Neal B Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 6:49 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] My letter to Pearson support Go Debee go! I am a full supporter of taking publishers to task (especially Pearson). Pearson's practices right with accessibility are very disorganized. It would be fine if the accessible books, such as those on VitalSource, were accessible and they offered them instead of the PDF. It seems every time I request one on ATN nowadays they tell me its on VitalSource, so just get it there. I offered this to one student who respectfully declined saying he hated VitalSource books! Pearson will only improve if we take them to task and challenge their methods and production. Neal Sorensen (pronouns: he, him, his) Accessibility Resources Minnesota State University, Mankato 132 Memorial Library Mankato, MN 56001 Phone: (507) 389-5242 Fax: (507) 389-1199 www.mnsu.edu/access [cid:image003.jpg@01D590BF.CE23E5B0] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply email so that our address record can be corrected. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 4:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] My letter to Pearson support I admit I'm on a tirade to get Pearson to clean up their act. If they want to sell us "born accessible" textbooks they better damn sure make them accessible! I wrote their support the following email just now. Be aware this is an ongoing case where they aware of the textbook and where I've regularly reported access issues with their exercises in My Spanish Lab: Please forward this to the person at Pearson who is working on this case number. I have located three access issues so far in the Mosaicos textbook. In general, the textbook is wonderfully accessible and as a screen reader user, I've been able to fully participate in class using the accessible version found in MySpanishLab under "accessible resources". However, these three issues made assignments difficult or impossible. In all instances more details in the ddescriptions would be required for the student to successfully complete the exercises. On page 70: "A map shows North America, Central America and South America with countries and nationalities labeled on it. " The problem here is that several of the labs depend on the student's ability to correctly spell those nationalities labeled on the map. I did find the nationalities listed at the end of the chapter in the vocabulary section, so it was a minor issue. On page 91: A screenshot shows the chat conversation between Camila and Marisa. In this case, the exercise immediately following the conversation: "Pi?nsalo. Select the correct option(s) to complete each statement or question, based on Marisa and Camila's conversation." assumes the student has read the chat conversation pictured in the above screen shot. On page 97, "A screenshot shows a web page titled "Amigos sin fronteras". That's the only description given. The exercise is in reading comprehension and this image description isn't sufficient for the student to complete the accompanying chart or answer the questions in exercise 2-44immediately following the screen shot. It appears your describer mindlessly went through the text describing all graphics without considering whether the text in a screen shot was relevant to completing an accompanying exercise. I've seen this problem as well with accounting textbooks from Pearson which contain screen shots of spreadsheets. The student needs the data in the spreadsheet to complete an accounting lab, but the description gives just the title of the spreadsheet. A good solution here for both accounting and foreign languages would be to simply offer downloadable files of the text that's contained within images. What frustrates me more than anything else is that Pearson has no organized way for users to report these problems. 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I wish more students would pick up the phone or hop online and make a DOE/DOJ complaint. Seriously. That's the only way we will get change on our campuses. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Leyna Bencomo Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 2:23 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] My letter to Pearson support Ditto with Neal. Go Debee. Don't you love being the quality checker for their class material? They are counting on all of us to tell them each and every error they make. I just announce in all my faculty training sessions that if they are planning to use Pearson then plan on accessibility problems and potential complaints and extended 3-way discussions with Disability Services and the student. Pearson can't claim ignorance of something as basic as creating accessible text descriptions of images with text. They've had suggestions, recommendations, advice, comments from those of us in the field for as long as I've been in the field...10 years. Probably longer. Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ [sig logo small] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Sorensen, Neal B Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 6:49 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] My letter to Pearson support Go Debee go! I am a full supporter of taking publishers to task (especially Pearson). Pearson's practices right with accessibility are very disorganized. It would be fine if the accessible books, such as those on VitalSource, were accessible and they offered them instead of the PDF. It seems every time I request one on ATN nowadays they tell me its on VitalSource, so just get it there. I offered this to one student who respectfully declined saying he hated VitalSource books! Pearson will only improve if we take them to task and challenge their methods and production. Neal Sorensen (pronouns: he, him, his) Accessibility Resources Minnesota State University, Mankato 132 Memorial Library Mankato, MN 56001 Phone: (507) 389-5242 Fax: (507) 389-1199 www.mnsu.edu/access [cid:image002.jpg@01D592E6.9489F460] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply email so that our address record can be corrected. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 4:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] My letter to Pearson support I admit I'm on a tirade to get Pearson to clean up their act. If they want to sell us "born accessible" textbooks they better damn sure make them accessible! I wrote their support the following email just now. Be aware this is an ongoing case where they aware of the textbook and where I've regularly reported access issues with their exercises in My Spanish Lab: Please forward this to the person at Pearson who is working on this case number. I have located three access issues so far in the Mosaicos textbook. In general, the textbook is wonderfully accessible and as a screen reader user, I've been able to fully participate in class using the accessible version found in MySpanishLab under "accessible resources". However, these three issues made assignments difficult or impossible. In all instances more details in the ddescriptions would be required for the student to successfully complete the exercises. On page 70: "A map shows North America, Central America and South America with countries and nationalities labeled on it. " The problem here is that several of the labs depend on the student's ability to correctly spell those nationalities labeled on the map. I did find the nationalities listed at the end of the chapter in the vocabulary section, so it was a minor issue. On page 91: A screenshot shows the chat conversation between Camila and Marisa. In this case, the exercise immediately following the conversation: "Pi?nsalo. Select the correct option(s) to complete each statement or question, based on Marisa and Camila's conversation." assumes the student has read the chat conversation pictured in the above screen shot. On page 97, "A screenshot shows a web page titled "Amigos sin fronteras". That's the only description given. The exercise is in reading comprehension and this image description isn't sufficient for the student to complete the accompanying chart or answer the questions in exercise 2-44immediately following the screen shot. It appears your describer mindlessly went through the text describing all graphics without considering whether the text in a screen shot was relevant to completing an accompanying exercise. I've seen this problem as well with accounting textbooks from Pearson which contain screen shots of spreadsheets. The student needs the data in the spreadsheet to complete an accounting lab, but the description gives just the title of the spreadsheet. A good solution here for both accounting and foreign languages would be to simply offer downloadable files of the text that's contained within images. What frustrates me more than anything else is that Pearson has no organized way for users to report these problems. I would happily fill in a web form each time I encountered one so it could be fixed for future visually impaired students! --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 15239 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 7621 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From chagnon at pubcom.com Mon Nov 4 12:12:53 2019 From: chagnon at pubcom.com (chagnon@pubcom.com) Date: Mon Nov 4 12:13:17 2019 Subject: [Athen] My letter to Pearson support In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00d401d5934c$3da77580$b8f66080$@pubcom.com> Sitting here in DC, I don?t think DOJ and DOE will do anything until the disability community takes action. And given the current state of affairs here in DC, I doubt anything can be done for at least another year. Look who heads up these agencies: William ?I don?t like your stinking laws? Barr is our Attorney General, and Betsy ?if you can?t afford the education you need then you don?t deserve to be educated? DeVos is dismantling the Department of Education. And they get their marching orders from their boss, Emperor Cheeto Head (you know, artificial orange puffed-air with little substance that leaves a nasty stain on your fingers). But we can go to the companies -- like Pearson, Freedom Scientific, Adobe, Microsoft ? and demand better accessibility tools. None of these companies is following the WCAG, EPUB, and PDF/UA standards, whether it?s for creating accessible content or using it. And we can begin plans now for descending on Washington in droves after next year?s election. Personally, I?d love to see the mall and the halls of Congress packed with a million people with disabilities and their families, teachers, school systems, and anyone else involved. We have to demand our civil rights. And we can vote better people into office next November, from local dog-catcher to President. Things won?t change until we demand that they change. ?Bevi (And I guess you can tell who I did NOT vote for last election!) ? ? ? Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO | Bevi@PubCom.com ? ? ? PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting ? training ? development ? design ? sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes ? ? ? Latest blog-newsletter ? Accessibility Tips at www.PubCom.com/blog From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 10:05 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] My letter to Pearson support If we could just keep our campuses from buying these materials in the first place, the problem would be solved ? Pearson would have to change. But none of us in DS has the power to control that. I wish more students would pick up the phone or hop online and make a DOE/DOJ complaint. Seriously. That?s the only way we will get change on our campuses. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Leyna Bencomo Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 2:23 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] My letter to Pearson support Ditto with Neal. Go Debee. Don?t you love being the quality checker for their class material? They are counting on all of us to tell them each and every error they make. I just announce in all my faculty training sessions that if they are planning to use Pearson then plan on accessibility problems and potential complaints and extended 3-way discussions with Disability Services and the student. Pearson can?t claim ignorance of something as basic as creating accessible text descriptions of images with text. They?ve had suggestions, recommendations, advice, comments from those of us in the field for as long as I?ve been in the field 10 years. Probably longer. Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Sorensen, Neal B Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 6:49 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] My letter to Pearson support Go Debee go! I am a full supporter of taking publishers to task (especially Pearson). Pearson?s practices right with accessibility are very disorganized. It would be fine if the accessible books, such as those on VitalSource, were accessible and they offered them instead of the PDF. It seems every time I request one on ATN nowadays they tell me its on VitalSource, so just get it there. I offered this to one student who respectfully declined saying he hated VitalSource books! Pearson will only improve if we take them to task and challenge their methods and production. Neal Sorensen (pronouns: he, him, his) Accessibility Resources Minnesota State University, Mankato 132 Memorial Library Mankato, MN 56001 Phone: (507) 389-5242 Fax: (507) 389-1199 www.mnsu.edu/access CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply email so that our address record can be corrected. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 4:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] My letter to Pearson support I admit I?m on a tirade to get Pearson to clean up their act. If they want to sell us ?born accessible? textbooks they better damn sure make them accessible! I wrote their support the following email just now. Be aware this is an ongoing case where they aware of the textbook and where I?ve regularly reported access issues with their exercises in My Spanish Lab: Please forward this to the person at Pearson who is working on this case number. I have located three access issues so far in the Mosaicos textbook. In general, the textbook is wonderfully accessible and as a screen reader user, I?ve been able to fully participate in class using the accessible version found in MySpanishLab under ?accessible resources?. However, these three issues made assignments difficult or impossible. In all instances more details in the ddescriptions would be required for the student to successfully complete the exercises. On page 70: "A map shows North America, Central America and South America with countries and nationalities labeled on it. " The problem here is that several of the labs depend on the student's ability to correctly spell those nationalities labeled on the map. I did find the nationalities listed at the end of the chapter in the vocabulary section, so it was a minor issue. On page 91: A screenshot shows the chat conversation between Camila and Marisa. In this case, the exercise immediately following the conversation: "Pi?nsalo. Select the correct option(s) to complete each statement or question, based on Marisa and Camila's conversation." assumes the student has read the chat conversation pictured in the above screen shot. On page 97, ?A screenshot shows a web page titled ?Amigos sin fronteras?. That?s the only description given. The exercise is in reading comprehension and this image description isn?t sufficient for the student to complete the accompanying chart or answer the questions in exercise 2-44immediately following the screen shot. It appears your describer mindlessly went through the text describing all graphics without considering whether the text in a screen shot was relevant to completing an accompanying exercise. I?ve seen this problem as well with accounting textbooks from Pearson which contain screen shots of spreadsheets. The student needs the data in the spreadsheet to complete an accounting lab, but the description gives just the title of the spreadsheet. A good solution here for both accounting and foreign languages would be to simply offer downloadable files of the text that?s contained within images. What frustrates me more than anything else is that Pearson has no organized way for users to report these problems. I would happily fill in a web form each time I encountered one so it could be fixed for future visually impaired students! --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 15239 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 7621 bytes Desc: not available URL: From schwarte at purdue.edu Mon Nov 4 16:15:41 2019 From: schwarte at purdue.edu (Schwarte, David M.) Date: Mon Nov 4 16:16:02 2019 Subject: [Athen] Using Another Audio Source for LiveScribe Pens Message-ID: Hello Everyone, I have been asked about using a different source of audio for a LiveScribe recording. Our campus has a system that can record and post audio from instructors in larger classrooms, usually with the microphone the instructor is wearing. Frequently in these larger classrooms, LiveScribe users get mediocre to poor audio because of the number of students, distance from the instructor etc. I know that in Sonoscent Audio Notetaker it is possible to synchronize the recorded audio with the notes that the student has taken, if the student's audio is not very clear. Does anyone know if there is a similar feature for LiveScribe? I don't have the various types of LiveScribe pens, but it looks like the recordings are all the same format. If there was one type of pen that would work better we could probably use that type. David Schwarte -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Mon Nov 4 17:39:20 2019 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Mon Nov 4 17:39:41 2019 Subject: [Athen] Using Another Audio Source for LiveScribe Pens In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Intriguing question. To my knowledge, there are currently no commercially-available means to do what you describe, but knowing how the various Livescribe pens work, I believe it should be technically possible. The Livescribe Echo synchronizes captured handwritten notes with audio from its built-in microphone, or one can use Livescribe?s so-called "3-D Recording Headset " (a set of earbuds with built-in stereo microphones). So one could envision a different stereo microphone plugged into that same smartpen phone jack that just happens to be receiving, say, Bluetooth audio from the classroom audio system. However, I believe the Echo's phone jack may use a custom pinout, so you can?t just use any ol? stereo mic connector. The Livescribe 3 and Aegir smartpens don?t have built-in microphones, so they synchronize notes with audio picked up by the Livescribe+ app running on a Bluetooth-linked iOS or Android device. Livescribe+ can use audio from the device?s built-in mic or audio from an external mic. So again, I think it's technically possible to have that "external mic" receive audio wirelessly from the classroom?s audio system. Just a thought: are you working with any engineering students who might want to figure out how to make this happen? ;-) (I love doing this kind of stuff but don?t have the time right now.) - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net > On Nov 4, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Schwarte, David M. wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I have been asked about using a different source of audio for a LiveScribe recording. Our campus has a system that can record and post audio from instructors in larger classrooms, usually with the microphone the instructor is wearing. Frequently in these larger classrooms, LiveScribe users get mediocre to poor audio because of the number of students, distance from the instructor etc. I know that in Sonoscent Audio Notetaker it is possible to synchronize the recorded audio with the notes that the student has taken, if the student?s audio is not very clear. Does anyone know if there is a similar feature for LiveScribe? I don?t have the various types of LiveScribe pens, but it looks like the recordings are all the same format. If there was one type of pen that would work better we could probably use that type. > > David Schwarte > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Mon Nov 4 18:26:37 2019 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Mon Nov 4 18:27:26 2019 Subject: [Athen] Using Another Audio Source for LiveScribe Pens Message-ID: <59d5iwgo4txnvqgorlwuy0yg.1572920797817@email.android.com> Tagging on to Shelley's suggestion, perhaps more specifically a music audio engineering student or prof. would be a good choice for figuring out the right connections/connecting devices. Once you have run the trial and error experiments, Sweetwater Music and Sound is a great resource for parts & supplies. Hope this is helpful. Wink Harner Wink Harner On November 4, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Shelley Haven wrote: Intriguing question. ?To my knowledge, there are currently no commercially-available means to do what you describe, but knowing how the various Livescribe pens work, I believe it should be technically possible. The Livescribe Echo synchronizes captured handwritten notes with audio from its built-in microphone, or one can use Livescribe?s so-called "3-D Recording Headset" (a set of earbuds with built-in stereo microphones). ?So one could envision a different stereo microphone plugged into that same smartpen phone jack that just happens to be receiving, say, Bluetooth audio from the classroom audio system. ?However, I believe the Echo's phone jack may use a custom pinout, so you can?t just use any ol? stereo mic connector. The Livescribe 3 and Aegir smartpens don?t have built-in microphones, so they synchronize notes with audio picked up by the Livescribe+ app running on a Bluetooth-linked iOS or Android device. ?Livescribe+ can use audio from the device?s built-in mic or audio from an external mic. ?So again, I think it's technically possible to have that "external mic" receive audio wirelessly from the classroom?s audio system. Just a thought: are you working with any engineering students who might want to figure out how to make this happen? ;-) ?(I love doing this kind of stuff but don?t have the time right now.) - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ?ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Nov 4, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Schwarte, David M. wrote: Hello Everyone, ? I have been asked about using a different source of audio for a LiveScribe recording.? Our campus has a system that can record and post audio from instructors in larger classrooms, usually with the microphone ?the instructor is wearing.? Frequently in these larger classrooms, LiveScribe users get mediocre to poor audio because of the number of students, distance from the instructor etc.? I know that in Sonoscent Audio Notetaker it is possible to synchronize the recorded audio with the notes that the student has taken, if the student?s audio is not very clear.? Does anyone know if there is a similar feature for LiveScribe?? I don?t have the various types of LiveScribe pens, but it looks like the recordings are all the same format.? If there was one type of pen that would work better we could probably use that type. ? David Schwarte ? ? _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Doug.Mantle at kings.uwo.ca Tue Nov 5 11:51:42 2019 From: Doug.Mantle at kings.uwo.ca (Doug Mantle) Date: Tue Nov 5 11:52:02 2019 Subject: [Athen] FW: [N.O.A.T.] The AT Profession has officially run out of Inspiration... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2B7730A6FD2DFE499F4A8A1099627D8D6B3594C4@kucexch01.kings.kucits.ca> As an FYI for those of you who are not on The Network of Assistive Technologists discussion list? Apologies for the cross postings. Doug Mantle, Assistive Technology Support Specialist, STARS Learning Lab Co-ordinator Accessibility, Counselling and Student Development - Accessibility Services - Student Affairs King's University College at Western University 266 Epworth Avenue London, Ontario, Canada N6A 2M3 P. 519-433-3491 ext. 4579 | P. 1-800-265-4406 | F. 519-963-1013 Doug.Mantle@Kings.UWO.ca | www.kings.uwo.ca Please be advised that this email is only monitored during regular office hours. During peak times of the academic year, replies may take 2-3 days. If your matter is urgent, please contact the Accessibility, Counselling and Student Development office at 519-433-3491 extension 4321 or acsd@kings.uwo.ca or Wemple room 151. From: noat@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Network of Assistive Technologists N.O.A.T. Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 2:45 PM To: NOAT@googlegroups.com Subject: [N.O.A.T.] The AT Profession has officially run out of Inspiration... Good day fellow AT Professionals! It is finally time to make it official. Some of you already know this. Some of you may have even been lucky enough to get personalized (automated as it may be) email notifications. There have been discussions on the list about it as well. This should not come as a large shock to any of us... It appears that as of November 29, 2019 us AT's will need to look elsewhere for our Inspiration. Recently a notice went up on the website of Strategic Transitions, the Canadian reseller of Inspiration, stating that "Effective immediately, Strategic Transitions Inc. will no longer be distributing Inspiration Software products in Canada." Other vendors and resellers have apparently received their notice as well. Those of us in the industry, those of us holding site licenses, and those of us, including our students who are end users, seem to have heard nothing official. Until now... Here is the latest communication I have from the folks at Inspiration, received earlier today in response to my inquiry on behalf of the over 200 members of N.O.A.T.. Thank you for your email. Inspiration the company is closing as of 11/29/19. As you mention, we've stopped selling Inspiration and Kidspiration, our desktop products, and have no plans to resume. The iPad apps we make--Inspiration Maps and Kidspiration Maps--remain available for purchase in Apple's iOS app store and will likely continue to be available going forward. All installed and serialized/authorized copies of Inspiration and Kidspiration will continue to work as before, though links to web-based resources like Inspiration's symbol search, etc. will eventually stop working when those servers are taken down - Richard Stone, General Manager at Inspiration Even though I have explicitly asked for an official notification from Inspiration, and I know one exists as others have gotten it, they have said one does not, nor will not exist. In a further email they indicated that "there will eventually be a notice on the web site." My understanding is that most of those receiving a notice direct from Inspiration are in the UK. I expect the more formalized and controlled government funding programs in the UK require more formal notice of an exit from the marketplace. With something a bit more formal than an email conversation, it might have been simpler to bring our respective financial aid officers on board with this change. I personally am finding instances where a student previously received funding for Inspiration and is now being declined funding for a replacement. I am being told only upgrades are possible. A continuing dialogue that I trust will positively resolve itself. Either way, this now confirms the rumours and expected outcome. I hope this information proves useful to the members of N.O.A.T. Your continued discussion, resource sharing and feedback are always welcomed! On a much brighter note... keep an eye out in the next day or two for details about the IdeaMapper webinar. A definite contender as an Inspiration replacement. You can mark it in your calendars for Friday, November 15, 2019 at 1:30pm EST. Further webinars and open discussions are also being planned to help us share, compare and educate ourselves about the Inspiration alternatives and other AT topics. Thank you and take care! 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David Schwarte From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 9:27 PM To: athen-list@u washington. edu Subject: Re: [Athen] Using Another Audio Source for LiveScribe Pens Tagging on to Shelley's suggestion, perhaps more specifically a music audio engineering student or prof. would be a good choice for figuring out the right connections/connecting devices. Once you have run the trial and error experiments, Sweetwater Music and Sound is a great resource for parts & supplies. Hope this is helpful. Wink Harner Wink Harner On November 4, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Shelley Haven wrote: Intriguing question. To my knowledge, there are currently no commercially-available means to do what you describe, but knowing how the various Livescribe pens work, I believe it should be technically possible. The Livescribe Echo synchronizes captured handwritten notes with audio from its built-in microphone, or one can use Livescribe?s so-called "3-D Recording Headset" (a set of earbuds with built-in stereo microphones). So one could envision a different stereo microphone plugged into that same smartpen phone jack that just happens to be receiving, say, Bluetooth audio from the classroom audio system. However, I believe the Echo's phone jack may use a custom pinout, so you can?t just use any ol? stereo mic connector. The Livescribe 3 and Aegir smartpens don?t have built-in microphones, so they synchronize notes with audio picked up by the Livescribe+ app running on a Bluetooth-linked iOS or Android device. Livescribe+ can use audio from the device?s built-in mic or audio from an external mic. So again, I think it's technically possible to have that "external mic" receive audio wirelessly from the classroom?s audio system. Just a thought: are you working with any engineering students who might want to figure out how to make this happen? ;-) (I love doing this kind of stuff but don?t have the time right now.) - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Nov 4, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Schwarte, David M. > wrote: Hello Everyone, I have been asked about using a different source of audio for a LiveScribe recording. Our campus has a system that can record and post audio from instructors in larger classrooms, usually with the microphone the instructor is wearing. Frequently in these larger classrooms, LiveScribe users get mediocre to poor audio because of the number of students, distance from the instructor etc. I know that in Sonoscent Audio Notetaker it is possible to synchronize the recorded audio with the notes that the student has taken, if the student?s audio is not very clear. Does anyone know if there is a similar feature for LiveScribe? I don?t have the various types of LiveScribe pens, but it looks like the recordings are all the same format. If there was one type of pen that would work better we could probably use that type. David Schwarte _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From solowoniukr at macewan.ca Thu Nov 7 07:34:42 2019 From: solowoniukr at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Thu Nov 7 07:34:59 2019 Subject: [Athen] Accessible Math formulas in Blackboard Message-ID: Hi all, I'm working with one of our eLearning specialists. They are trying to make their STATS 151 Blackboard course more accessible. In the past they were pasting screenshots of the formulas into the course, which isn't at all accessible. Now they are using the built-in Blackboard equations editor. The formula still goes in as a graphic, but the actual formula is placed into the alt text for that image. Below is an example, and I wonder if anyone familiar with Math can check this to see if it would be considered accessible? I read in a few places that this method is acceptable. Descriptive Measures for Population and Sample Population mean [mu equals fraction numerator sum for blank of x subscript i over denominator N end fraction] Population mean [mu equals fraction numerator sum x subscript i over denominator N end fraction] Population standard deviation [sigma equals square root of fraction numerator sum for blank of left parenthesis x subscript i minus mu right parenthesis squared over denominator N end fraction end root] = [square root of fraction numerator sum for blank of x subscript i squared over denominator N end fraction minus mu squared end root] [x with bar on top equals fraction numerator sum for blank of x subscript i over denominator n end fraction] There's more to this formula, but just want to see what you all think. In the Blackboard course, I am able to read the alt text tags as if it were just text, but I noticed in the images I pasted above, I am not able to do this. 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Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else experienced this issue, and what did you do? Thanks, Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Thu Nov 7 13:19:30 2019 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Thu Nov 7 13:19:59 2019 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would post the scanned files on a cloud drive and share the folder with the student. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT][Athen] Book for an online student CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else experienced this issue, and what did you do? Thanks, Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Thu Nov 7 13:32:15 2019 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Thu Nov 7 13:32:27 2019 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7405D0B8-C0E2-400A-A357-C8B091D0D1E9@email.arizona.edu> To add to Robert?s suggestion ? I would check with your University library or the department to see if they have a copy you can scan? ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. |Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 From: athen-list on behalf of Robert Beach Reply-To: ATHEN Date: Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 2:25 PM To: ATHEN Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Book for an online student I would post the scanned files on a cloud drive and share the folder with the student. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT][Athen] Book for an online student CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else experienced this issue, and what did you do? Thanks, Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coco.napolis at csueastbay.edu Thu Nov 7 13:41:29 2019 From: coco.napolis at csueastbay.edu (Coco Napolis) Date: Thu Nov 7 13:41:58 2019 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: <7405D0B8-C0E2-400A-A357-C8B091D0D1E9@email.arizona.edu> References: <7405D0B8-C0E2-400A-A357-C8B091D0D1E9@email.arizona.edu> Message-ID: If the library doesn?t have it we would ask faculty or department if they have a desk copy they?d be willing to lend for scanning/conversion purposes On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:33 PM Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) < hunziker@email.arizona.edu> wrote: > To add to Robert?s suggestion ? I would check with your University library > or the department to see if they have a copy you can scan? > > > > ~~ > > Dawn Hunziker > > IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. |Disability Resources > > The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu > > drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu > > 520-626-9409 > > > > > > *From: *athen-list on > behalf of Robert Beach > *Reply-To: *ATHEN > *Date: *Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 2:25 PM > *To: *ATHEN > *Subject: *Re: [Athen] [EXT] Book for an online student > > > > I would post the scanned files on a cloud drive and share the folder with > the student. > > > > > > > > Robert Lee Beach > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Kansas City Kansas Community College > > 7250 State Avenue > > > Kansas City, KS > > 66112 > > > Phone: 913-288-7671 > > Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Robert Spangler > *Sent:* Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:16 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [EXT][Athen] Book for an online student > > > > *CAUTION:** This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or > open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all > suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu .* > > Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled > in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not > responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. > Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this > is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else > experienced this issue, and what did you do? > > > > Thanks, > > Robert > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park > > | > > Dayton, Ohio 45469 > -1302 > > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- -- (Corazon) Coco Napolis IT Accessibility & Business Operations Specialist Information Technology Solutions Cal State East Bay (510) 885-3831 Direct Production Assistants: alternate.media@csueastbay.edu *"To receive much, Is to give much."* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please forward this email to iso@csudh.edu if you believe this email is suspicious. Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else experienced this issue, and what did you do? Thanks, Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Thu Nov 7 14:03:26 2019 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Thu Nov 7 14:04:37 2019 Subject: [Athen] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Robert Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmailcom 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler wrote: > Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled > in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not > responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. > Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this > is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else > experienced this issue, and what did you do? > > Thanks, > Robert > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Thu Nov 7 14:10:37 2019 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Thu Nov 7 14:12:08 2019 Subject: [Athen] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Robert et al ATHENITES, We did this frequently at Southern Oregon University not just for students in online classes but for all students (mostly all). We used Sugar Sync, and online filesharing application, and would convert the books to the appropriate format and upload the files to sugar sync, where the students could logon and download wherever they happened to be. There are a number of apps that are free that are efficient and easy to use in this category, we chose one for the college that was a paid subscription service, was not terribly expensive, but because we wanted to protect both the privacy of the student and the copyright of the books we created individual links for each student for their books and contract when or if they downloaded the books or if other attempts were made to download the books. The files are removed each semester. If a student needs it again, we can reload the file for them. If you need help with recommendations on cloud-based services, let us know. Sure there are many of us online it would be happy to share recommendations. This is more common than you might think! There are fairly simple ways of dealing with it. Now you know :-) Hope this helps. Wink Harner Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler wrote: > Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled > in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not > responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. > Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this > is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else > experienced this issue, and what did you do? > > Thanks, > Robert > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu Thu Nov 7 14:14:54 2019 From: Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu (Kluesner, Bryon) Date: Thu Nov 7 14:15:14 2019 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]: Re: [EXT] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Robert, What?s the book title? I can see if I have it in my collection. Bryon Bryon Kluesner RhD, ATACP Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 Member of Division of Enrollment Management and Student Affairs From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 4:20 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT]: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Book for an online student External Email I would post the scanned files on a cloud drive and share the folder with the student. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [EXT][Athen] Book for an online student CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. 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From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Fri Nov 8 06:35:53 2019 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Fri Nov 8 06:36:22 2019 Subject: [Athen] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's not necessarily sharing the scanned files, but asking the student to mail me the physical book that's the difficulty. Is that fair to do, since they would have to pay to do this? Or would we be expected to buy a copy of the book or reimburse his shipping? On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM Wink Harner wrote: > Hi Robert et al ATHENITES, > > We did this frequently at Southern Oregon University not just for students > in online classes but for all students (mostly all). We used Sugar Sync, > and online filesharing application, and would convert the books to the > appropriate format and upload the files to sugar sync, where the students > could logon and download wherever they happened to be. > > There are a number of apps that are free that are efficient and easy to > use in this category, we chose one for the college that was a paid > subscription service, was not terribly expensive, but because we wanted to > protect both the privacy of the student and the copyright of the books we > created individual links for each student for their books and contract when > or if they downloaded the books or if other attempts were made to download > the books. The files are removed each semester. If a student needs it > again, we can reload the file for them. > > If you need help with recommendations on cloud-based services, let us > know. Sure there are many of us online it would be happy to share > recommendations. > > This is more common than you might think! There are fairly simple ways of > dealing with it. Now you know :-) > Hope this helps. > > Wink Harner > Wink Harner > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > The Foreign Type > > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler > wrote: > >> Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is >> enrolled in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has >> not responded to a request for an alternative format version of this >> textbook. Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the >> text, but this is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has >> anyone else experienced this issue, and what did you do? >> >> Thanks, >> Robert >> >> >> -- >> Robert Spangler >> Disability Services Technical Support Specialist >> rspangler1@udayton.edu >> Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 >> Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) >> University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 >> Phone: 937-229-2066 >> Fax: 937-229-3270 >> Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of >> hearing) >> Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Fri Nov 8 06:38:25 2019 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Fri Nov 8 06:39:33 2019 Subject: [Athen] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK, thanks for this, I was thinking that purchasing a copy would be our responsibility, but I wasn't completely sure. Disregard my other message; I had sent it before looking at the rest of the thread. On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 4:53 PM Stephen (Alex) Marositz wrote: > Hello Robert > > > > It sounds like you will either > > 1. Have to request a copy from the publisher to mail to you so you > can scan it (WW Norton does this), or > > 2. Have your department purchase a copy for you to cut and scan. > > > > This is a part of the cost of doing business when institutions of higher > ed take on distance education. > > > > Stephen Alex Marositz > ATI Coordinator > CSUDH > Ext 3077 > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Robert Spangler > *Sent:* Thursday, November 7, 2019 1:16 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] Book for an online student > > > > > > *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of CSUDH. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you validate the sender and know the > content is safe. Please forward this email to iso@csudh.edu if you > believe this email is suspicious. > > > > Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled > in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not > responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. > Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this > is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else > experienced this issue, and what did you do? > > > > Thanks, > > Robert > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Fri Nov 8 06:39:22 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Fri Nov 8 06:39:37 2019 Subject: [Athen] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think in the interest of speed, you get that book ASAP and get it scanned. Unless it?s a $400 book, it should not be a struggle for the office to pay for it. Also, have you asked on the listservs to see if anyone as files for it? I have almost 5000 books in my files, maybe someone has this one that you need? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 7:36 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Book for an online student It's not necessarily sharing the scanned files, but asking the student to mail me the physical book that's the difficulty. Is that fair to do, since they would have to pay to do this? Or would we be expected to buy a copy of the book or reimburse his shipping? On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM Wink Harner > wrote: Hi Robert et al ATHENITES, We did this frequently at Southern Oregon University not just for students in online classes but for all students (mostly all). We used Sugar Sync, and online filesharing application, and would convert the books to the appropriate format and upload the files to sugar sync, where the students could logon and download wherever they happened to be. There are a number of apps that are free that are efficient and easy to use in this category, we chose one for the college that was a paid subscription service, was not terribly expensive, but because we wanted to protect both the privacy of the student and the copyright of the books we created individual links for each student for their books and contract when or if they downloaded the books or if other attempts were made to download the books. The files are removed each semester. If a student needs it again, we can reload the file for them. If you need help with recommendations on cloud-based services, let us know. Sure there are many of us online it would be happy to share recommendations. This is more common than you might think! There are fairly simple ways of dealing with it. Now you know :-) Hope this helps. Wink Harner Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler > wrote: Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else experienced this issue, and what did you do? Thanks, Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Fri Nov 8 06:52:53 2019 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Fri Nov 8 06:53:17 2019 Subject: [Athen] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The book info is as follows: The Symphony of profound knowledge 9781532002397 We are going to check with the department and purchase the text if necessary, but if anyone has it that would be greatly appreciated. On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 9:42 AM Susan Kelmer wrote: > I think in the interest of speed, you get that book ASAP and get it > scanned. Unless it?s a $400 book, it should not be a struggle for the > office to pay for it. > > > > Also, have you asked on the listservs to see if anyone as files for it? I > have almost 5000 books in my files, maybe someone has this one that you > need? > > > > *Susan Kelmer* > > *Alternate Format Production Program Manager* > > *Disability Services* > > *University of Colorado Boulder* > > *303-735-4836* > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Robert Spangler > *Sent:* Friday, November 8, 2019 7:36 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Book for an online student > > > > It's not necessarily sharing the scanned files, but asking the student to > mail me the physical book that's the difficulty. Is that fair to do, since > they would have to pay to do this? Or would we be expected to buy a copy > of the book or reimburse his shipping? > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM Wink Harner wrote: > > Hi Robert et al ATHENITES, > > We did this frequently at Southern Oregon University not just for students > in online classes but for all students (mostly all). We used Sugar Sync, > and online filesharing application, and would convert the books to the > appropriate format and upload the files to sugar sync, where the students > could logon and download wherever they happened to be. > > There are a number of apps that are free that are efficient and easy to > use in this category, we chose one for the college that was a paid > subscription service, was not terribly expensive, but because we wanted to > protect both the privacy of the student and the copyright of the books we > created individual links for each student for their books and contract when > or if they downloaded the books or if other attempts were made to download > the books. The files are removed each semester. If a student needs it > again, we can reload the file for them. > > If you need help with recommendations on cloud-based services, let us > know. Sure there are many of us online it would be happy to share > recommendations. > > This is more common than you might think! There are fairly simple ways of > dealing with it. Now you know :-) > Hope this helps. > > Wink Harner > > Wink Harner > > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > > The Foreign Type > > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler > wrote: > > Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled > in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not > responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. > Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this > is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else > experienced this issue, and what did you do? > > > > Thanks, > > Robert > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Fri Nov 8 06:56:37 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Fri Nov 8 06:57:09 2019 Subject: [Athen] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Self-published. I don?t have it. But it?s only $23 on Amazon. Have your department buy it, cut it, and scan it. Would be quickest and easiest. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 7:53 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Book for an online student The book info is as follows: The Symphony of profound knowledge 9781532002397 We are going to check with the department and purchase the text if necessary, but if anyone has it that would be greatly appreciated. On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 9:42 AM Susan Kelmer > wrote: I think in the interest of speed, you get that book ASAP and get it scanned. Unless it?s a $400 book, it should not be a struggle for the office to pay for it. Also, have you asked on the listservs to see if anyone as files for it? I have almost 5000 books in my files, maybe someone has this one that you need? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 7:36 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Book for an online student It's not necessarily sharing the scanned files, but asking the student to mail me the physical book that's the difficulty. Is that fair to do, since they would have to pay to do this? Or would we be expected to buy a copy of the book or reimburse his shipping? On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM Wink Harner > wrote: Hi Robert et al ATHENITES, We did this frequently at Southern Oregon University not just for students in online classes but for all students (mostly all). We used Sugar Sync, and online filesharing application, and would convert the books to the appropriate format and upload the files to sugar sync, where the students could logon and download wherever they happened to be. There are a number of apps that are free that are efficient and easy to use in this category, we chose one for the college that was a paid subscription service, was not terribly expensive, but because we wanted to protect both the privacy of the student and the copyright of the books we created individual links for each student for their books and contract when or if they downloaded the books or if other attempts were made to download the books. The files are removed each semester. If a student needs it again, we can reload the file for them. If you need help with recommendations on cloud-based services, let us know. Sure there are many of us online it would be happy to share recommendations. This is more common than you might think! There are fairly simple ways of dealing with it. Now you know :-) Hope this helps. Wink Harner Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler > wrote: Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else experienced this issue, and what did you do? Thanks, Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Fri Nov 8 08:15:37 2019 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Fri Nov 8 08:16:36 2019 Subject: [Athen] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Robert, Why would they have to mail the book to you? We only require proof of ?ownership? which could be copy of a receipt, check out slip from a library, photo of their name written on it. Many times I?ve converted a book electronically for a student long before a semester started and released it electronically after ?proof? of possession of the book. Our department considered the cost of purchasing & converting books as part of our cost of doing business. We worked out a buy back agreement with the bookstore. Sometimes we were able to get a desk copy from the publisher or the instructor or the department which we could use to cut, scan and rebind. Hopefully someone on the listserv will have an electronic version of the book and can share it with you. Wink On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 6:36 AM Robert Spangler wrote: > It's not necessarily sharing the scanned files, but asking the student to > mail me the physical book that's the difficulty. Is that fair to do, since > they would have to pay to do this? Or would we be expected to buy a copy > of the book or reimburse his shipping? > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM Wink Harner wrote: > >> Hi Robert et al ATHENITES, >> >> We did this frequently at Southern Oregon University not just for >> students in online classes but for all students (mostly all). We used Sugar >> Sync, and online filesharing application, and would convert the books to >> the appropriate format and upload the files to sugar sync, where the >> students could logon and download wherever they happened to be. >> >> There are a number of apps that are free that are efficient and easy to >> use in this category, we chose one for the college that was a paid >> subscription service, was not terribly expensive, but because we wanted to >> protect both the privacy of the student and the copyright of the books we >> created individual links for each student for their books and contract when >> or if they downloaded the books or if other attempts were made to download >> the books. The files are removed each semester. If a student needs it >> again, we can reload the file for them. >> >> If you need help with recommendations on cloud-based services, let us >> know. Sure there are many of us online it would be happy to share >> recommendations. >> >> This is more common than you might think! There are fairly simple ways of >> dealing with it. Now you know :-) >> Hope this helps. >> >> Wink Harner >> Wink Harner >> Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production >> The Foreign Type >> >> Portland OR >> foreigntype@gmail.com >> 480-984-0034 >> >> This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive >> quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is >>> enrolled in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has >>> not responded to a request for an alternative format version of this >>> textbook. Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the >>> text, but this is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has >>> anyone else experienced this issue, and what did you do? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Robert >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Robert Spangler >>> Disability Services Technical Support Specialist >>> rspangler1@udayton.edu >>> Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 >>> Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) >>> University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469 >>> -1302 >>> >>> Phone: 937-229-2066 >>> Fax: 937-229-3270 >>> Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of >>> hearing) >>> Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469 > -1302 > > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Fri Nov 8 08:24:39 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Fri Nov 8 08:24:48 2019 Subject: [Athen] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wink, the book is not available from the publisher. Normal process would be to scan the book, but the student is a distance learner, so putting the burden of mailing the book onto the student seems unfair. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 9:16 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Book for an online student Robert, Why would they have to mail the book to you? We only require proof of ?ownership? which could be copy of a receipt, check out slip from a library, photo of their name written on it. Many times I?ve converted a book electronically for a student long before a semester started and released it electronically after ?proof? of possession of the book. Our department considered the cost of purchasing & converting books as part of our cost of doing business. We worked out a buy back agreement with the bookstore. Sometimes we were able to get a desk copy from the publisher or the instructor or the department which we could use to cut, scan and rebind. Hopefully someone on the listserv will have an electronic version of the book and can share it with you. Wink On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 6:36 AM Robert Spangler > wrote: It's not necessarily sharing the scanned files, but asking the student to mail me the physical book that's the difficulty. Is that fair to do, since they would have to pay to do this? Or would we be expected to buy a copy of the book or reimburse his shipping? On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM Wink Harner > wrote: Hi Robert et al ATHENITES, We did this frequently at Southern Oregon University not just for students in online classes but for all students (mostly all). We used Sugar Sync, and online filesharing application, and would convert the books to the appropriate format and upload the files to sugar sync, where the students could logon and download wherever they happened to be. There are a number of apps that are free that are efficient and easy to use in this category, we chose one for the college that was a paid subscription service, was not terribly expensive, but because we wanted to protect both the privacy of the student and the copyright of the books we created individual links for each student for their books and contract when or if they downloaded the books or if other attempts were made to download the books. The files are removed each semester. If a student needs it again, we can reload the file for them. If you need help with recommendations on cloud-based services, let us know. Sure there are many of us online it would be happy to share recommendations. This is more common than you might think! There are fairly simple ways of dealing with it. Now you know :-) Hope this helps. Wink Harner Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler > wrote: Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else experienced this issue, and what did you do? Thanks, Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justinr at disability.tamu.edu Fri Nov 8 08:39:53 2019 From: justinr at disability.tamu.edu (Justin Romack) Date: Fri Nov 8 08:40:08 2019 Subject: [Athen] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Agree with Susan?s take on this. It would be my advice as well. Ultimately, the student isn?t the one legally obligated to provide access ? the university is. Fortunately, it sounds like the cost of the book is low ? so it won?t be an extreme expense for Robert?s office to purchase and begin processing these materials ? but even if it were, is it worth delaying the process and risking litigation for failing to accommodate this student?s needs? No doubt the water is a little murky on this one ? but when black and white turn to grey, I?m going to air on the side of caution and make sure access is top of mind ? no matter the cost. Thanks for being such a great community that can dispense advice for all of our oddities and edge cases. Y?all really are a super group! Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:25 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Book for an online student Wink, the book is not available from the publisher. Normal process would be to scan the book, but the student is a distance learner, so putting the burden of mailing the book onto the student seems unfair. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 9:16 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Book for an online student Robert, Why would they have to mail the book to you? We only require proof of ?ownership? which could be copy of a receipt, check out slip from a library, photo of their name written on it. Many times I?ve converted a book electronically for a student long before a semester started and released it electronically after ?proof? of possession of the book. Our department considered the cost of purchasing & converting books as part of our cost of doing business. We worked out a buy back agreement with the bookstore. Sometimes we were able to get a desk copy from the publisher or the instructor or the department which we could use to cut, scan and rebind. Hopefully someone on the listserv will have an electronic version of the book and can share it with you. Wink On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 6:36 AM Robert Spangler > wrote: It's not necessarily sharing the scanned files, but asking the student to mail me the physical book that's the difficulty. Is that fair to do, since they would have to pay to do this? Or would we be expected to buy a copy of the book or reimburse his shipping? On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM Wink Harner > wrote: Hi Robert et al ATHENITES, We did this frequently at Southern Oregon University not just for students in online classes but for all students (mostly all). We used Sugar Sync, and online filesharing application, and would convert the books to the appropriate format and upload the files to sugar sync, where the students could logon and download wherever they happened to be. There are a number of apps that are free that are efficient and easy to use in this category, we chose one for the college that was a paid subscription service, was not terribly expensive, but because we wanted to protect both the privacy of the student and the copyright of the books we created individual links for each student for their books and contract when or if they downloaded the books or if other attempts were made to download the books. The files are removed each semester. If a student needs it again, we can reload the file for them. If you need help with recommendations on cloud-based services, let us know. Sure there are many of us online it would be happy to share recommendations. This is more common than you might think! There are fairly simple ways of dealing with it. Now you know :-) Hope this helps. Wink Harner Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler > wrote: Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else experienced this issue, and what did you do? Thanks, Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Fri Nov 8 09:17:54 2019 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Fri Nov 8 09:17:57 2019 Subject: [Athen] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Susan et al, In my own defense, I did mention purchasing the book as one of the options at our disposal. Wink On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, 8:40 AM Justin Romack wrote: > Agree with Susan?s take on this. It would be my advice as well. > > > > Ultimately, the student isn?t the one legally obligated to provide access > ? the university is. Fortunately, it sounds like the cost of the book is > low ? so it won?t be an extreme expense for Robert?s office to purchase and > begin processing these materials ? but even if it were, is it worth > delaying the process and risking litigation for failing to accommodate this > student?s needs? > > > > No doubt the water is a little murky on this one ? but when black and > white turn to grey, I?m going to air on the side of caution and make sure > access is top of mind ? no matter the cost. > > > > Thanks for being such a great community that can dispense advice for all > of our oddities and edge cases. Y?all really are a super group! > > > > Thanks, > > J > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > *Justin Romack* | Assistive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resources | Texas A&M University > > 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 > > > > ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > *DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS *| One Division. One Mission. > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Susan Kelmer > *Sent:* Friday, November 8, 2019 10:25 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Book for an online student > > > > Wink, the book is not available from the publisher. Normal process would > be to scan the book, but the student is a distance learner, so putting the > burden of mailing the book onto the student seems unfair. > > > > *Susan Kelmer* > > *Alternate Format Production Program Manager* > > *Disability Services* > > *University of Colorado Boulder* > > *303-735-4836* > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Wink Harner > *Sent:* Friday, November 8, 2019 9:16 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Book for an online student > > > > Robert, > > > > Why would they have to mail the book to you? We only require proof of > ?ownership? which could be copy of a receipt, check out slip from a > library, photo of their name written on it. Many times I?ve converted a > book electronically for a student long before a semester started and > released it electronically after ?proof? of possession of the book. Our > department considered the cost of purchasing & converting books as part of > our cost of doing business. We worked out a buy back agreement with the > bookstore. Sometimes we were able to get a desk copy from the publisher or > the instructor or the department which we could use to cut, scan and rebind. > > > > Hopefully someone on the listserv will have an electronic version of the > book and can share it with you. > > > > Wink > > > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 6:36 AM Robert Spangler > wrote: > > It's not necessarily sharing the scanned files, but asking the student to > mail me the physical book that's the difficulty. Is that fair to do, since > they would have to pay to do this? Or would we be expected to buy a copy > of the book or reimburse his shipping? > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM Wink Harner wrote: > > Hi Robert et al ATHENITES, > > We did this frequently at Southern Oregon University not just for students > in online classes but for all students (mostly all). We used Sugar Sync, > and online filesharing application, and would convert the books to the > appropriate format and upload the files to sugar sync, where the students > could logon and download wherever they happened to be. > > There are a number of apps that are free that are efficient and easy to > use in this category, we chose one for the college that was a paid > subscription service, was not terribly expensive, but because we wanted to > protect both the privacy of the student and the copyright of the books we > created individual links for each student for their books and contract when > or if they downloaded the books or if other attempts were made to download > the books. The files are removed each semester. If a student needs it > again, we can reload the file for them. > > If you need help with recommendations on cloud-based services, let us > know. Sure there are many of us online it would be happy to share > recommendations. > > This is more common than you might think! There are fairly simple ways of > dealing with it. Now you know :-) > Hope this helps. > > Wink Harner > > Wink Harner > > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > > The Foreign Type > > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler > wrote: > > Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled > in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not > responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. > Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this > is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else > experienced this issue, and what did you do? > > > > Thanks, > > Robert > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469 > -1302 > > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. 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URL: From michael.hoel at centralia.edu Fri Nov 8 11:10:07 2019 From: michael.hoel at centralia.edu (Michael Hoel) Date: Fri Nov 8 11:10:44 2019 Subject: [Athen] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74835DA7A4CC194CB5D4967E31124F4CEC128159@Post.centralia.edu> Did you try the instructor for a copy that you can scan? Michael Hoel Director, Disability Services Past President ? WAPED Technical Advisor ? DSSC RN, BS, ATACP Centralia College 600 W. Centralia College Blvd Centralia, WA 98531 360-736-9391 x8437 Fax: 360-330-7103 www.centralia.edu/students/disabilities/ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 9:18 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Book for an online student CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Centralia College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Susan et al, In my own defense, I did mention purchasing the book as one of the options at our disposal. Wink On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, 8:40 AM Justin Romack > wrote: Agree with Susan?s take on this. It would be my advice as well. Ultimately, the student isn?t the one legally obligated to provide access ? the university is. Fortunately, it sounds like the cost of the book is low ? so it won?t be an extreme expense for Robert?s office to purchase and begin processing these materials ? but even if it were, is it worth delaying the process and risking litigation for failing to accommodate this student?s needs? No doubt the water is a little murky on this one ? but when black and white turn to grey, I?m going to air on the side of caution and make sure access is top of mind ? no matter the cost. Thanks for being such a great community that can dispense advice for all of our oddities and edge cases. Y?all really are a super group! Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:25 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Book for an online student Wink, the book is not available from the publisher. Normal process would be to scan the book, but the student is a distance learner, so putting the burden of mailing the book onto the student seems unfair. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 9:16 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Book for an online student Robert, Why would they have to mail the book to you? We only require proof of ?ownership? which could be copy of a receipt, check out slip from a library, photo of their name written on it. Many times I?ve converted a book electronically for a student long before a semester started and released it electronically after ?proof? of possession of the book. Our department considered the cost of purchasing & converting books as part of our cost of doing business. We worked out a buy back agreement with the bookstore. Sometimes we were able to get a desk copy from the publisher or the instructor or the department which we could use to cut, scan and rebind. Hopefully someone on the listserv will have an electronic version of the book and can share it with you. Wink On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 6:36 AM Robert Spangler > wrote: It's not necessarily sharing the scanned files, but asking the student to mail me the physical book that's the difficulty. Is that fair to do, since they would have to pay to do this? Or would we be expected to buy a copy of the book or reimburse his shipping? On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM Wink Harner > wrote: Hi Robert et al ATHENITES, We did this frequently at Southern Oregon University not just for students in online classes but for all students (mostly all). We used Sugar Sync, and online filesharing application, and would convert the books to the appropriate format and upload the files to sugar sync, where the students could logon and download wherever they happened to be. There are a number of apps that are free that are efficient and easy to use in this category, we chose one for the college that was a paid subscription service, was not terribly expensive, but because we wanted to protect both the privacy of the student and the copyright of the books we created individual links for each student for their books and contract when or if they downloaded the books or if other attempts were made to download the books. The files are removed each semester. If a student needs it again, we can reload the file for them. If you need help with recommendations on cloud-based services, let us know. Sure there are many of us online it would be happy to share recommendations. This is more common than you might think! There are fairly simple ways of dealing with it. Now you know :-) Hope this helps. Wink Harner Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler > wrote: Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else experienced this issue, and what did you do? Thanks, Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. 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URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Fri Nov 8 11:36:06 2019 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Fri Nov 8 11:36:24 2019 Subject: [Athen] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: <74835DA7A4CC194CB5D4967E31124F4CEC128159@Post.centralia.edu> References: <74835DA7A4CC194CB5D4967E31124F4CEC128159@Post.centralia.edu> Message-ID: Hello everyone, thanks for your responses. We went to the instructor and they actually did happen to have an extra copy available, so we will be scanning it and providing it to the student. On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 2:14 PM Michael Hoel wrote: > Did you try the instructor for a copy that you can scan? > > > > Michael Hoel > > > > > > *Director, Disability Services Past President ? WAPED Technical Advisor ? > DSSC RN, BS, ATACP *Centralia College > 600 W. Centralia College Blvd > Centralia, WA 98531 > > 360-736-9391 x8437 > > Fax: 360-330-7103 > > www.centralia.edu/students/disabilities/ > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Wink Harner > *Sent:* Friday, November 08, 2019 9:18 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Book for an online student > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Centralia College. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know > the content is safe. > > > > Susan et al, > > > > In my own defense, I did mention purchasing the book as one of the options > at our disposal. > > > > Wink > > > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, 8:40 AM Justin Romack > wrote: > > Agree with Susan?s take on this. It would be my advice as well. > > > > Ultimately, the student isn?t the one legally obligated to provide access > ? the university is. Fortunately, it sounds like the cost of the book is > low ? so it won?t be an extreme expense for Robert?s office to purchase and > begin processing these materials ? but even if it were, is it worth > delaying the process and risking litigation for failing to accommodate this > student?s needs? > > > > No doubt the water is a little murky on this one ? but when black and > white turn to grey, I?m going to air on the side of caution and make sure > access is top of mind ? no matter the cost. > > > > Thanks for being such a great community that can dispense advice for all > of our oddities and edge cases. Y?all really are a super group! > > > > Thanks, > > J > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > *Justin Romack* | Assistive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resources | Texas A&M University > > 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 > > > > ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > *DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS *| One Division. One Mission. > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Susan Kelmer > *Sent:* Friday, November 8, 2019 10:25 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Book for an online student > > > > Wink, the book is not available from the publisher. Normal process would > be to scan the book, but the student is a distance learner, so putting the > burden of mailing the book onto the student seems unfair. > > > > *Susan Kelmer* > > *Alternate Format Production Program Manager* > > *Disability Services* > > *University of Colorado Boulder* > > *303-735-4836* > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Wink Harner > *Sent:* Friday, November 8, 2019 9:16 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Book for an online student > > > > Robert, > > > > Why would they have to mail the book to you? We only require proof of > ?ownership? which could be copy of a receipt, check out slip from a > library, photo of their name written on it. Many times I?ve converted a > book electronically for a student long before a semester started and > released it electronically after ?proof? of possession of the book. Our > department considered the cost of purchasing & converting books as part of > our cost of doing business. We worked out a buy back agreement with the > bookstore. Sometimes we were able to get a desk copy from the publisher or > the instructor or the department which we could use to cut, scan and rebind. > > > > Hopefully someone on the listserv will have an electronic version of the > book and can share it with you. > > > > Wink > > > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 6:36 AM Robert Spangler > wrote: > > It's not necessarily sharing the scanned files, but asking the student to > mail me the physical book that's the difficulty. Is that fair to do, since > they would have to pay to do this? Or would we be expected to buy a copy > of the book or reimburse his shipping? > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM Wink Harner wrote: > > Hi Robert et al ATHENITES, > > We did this frequently at Southern Oregon University not just for students > in online classes but for all students (mostly all). We used Sugar Sync, > and online filesharing application, and would convert the books to the > appropriate format and upload the files to sugar sync, where the students > could logon and download wherever they happened to be. > > There are a number of apps that are free that are efficient and easy to > use in this category, we chose one for the college that was a paid > subscription service, was not terribly expensive, but because we wanted to > protect both the privacy of the student and the copyright of the books we > created individual links for each student for their books and contract when > or if they downloaded the books or if other attempts were made to download > the books. The files are removed each semester. If a student needs it > again, we can reload the file for them. > > If you need help with recommendations on cloud-based services, let us > know. Sure there are many of us online it would be happy to share > recommendations. > > This is more common than you might think! There are fairly simple ways of > dealing with it. Now you know :-) > Hope this helps. > > Wink Harner > > Wink Harner > > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > > The Foreign Type > > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler > wrote: > > Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled > in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not > responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. > Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this > is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else > experienced this issue, and what did you do? > > > > Thanks, > > Robert > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469 > -1302 > > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469 > -1302 > > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > -- > > Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text > Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at ccctechcenter.org Fri Nov 8 12:09:34 2019 From: skeegan at ccctechcenter.org (Sean Keegan) Date: Fri Nov 8 12:09:57 2019 Subject: [Athen] Complaint reporting process and response timelines Message-ID: Hello all, I have been reviewing some past settlement agreements regarding website accessibility complaint reporting and am looking for specific timelines and/or timeframes by which the college is expected to respond. 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URL: From bcb4y at virginia.edu Fri Nov 8 13:22:54 2019 From: bcb4y at virginia.edu (Butler, Brandon (bcb4y)) Date: Fri Nov 8 13:22:59 2019 Subject: [Athen] Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: <74835DA7A4CC194CB5D4967E31124F4CEC128159@Post.centralia.edu> Message-ID: <15D45985-A2E9-4C8E-BD5F-D4E4D57FBAAC@virginia.edu> Hi all, I just wanted to add one postscript to this conversation, which is that there is no requirement in the law that a student with a qualified disability show proof of purchase before an accessible copy is provided. I know this is a common practice, but neither Section 121 nor fair use require the student to purchase the text in order for an authorized entity to provide her an accessible copy. Of course, for an accessible copy to be created, an (inaccessible) copy has to be on-hand, but that copy can come from a library, a previous user, or (as in this case), the instructor. There isn?t even any gray area about this in the law, as far as I can determine, both in my own research and in conversations with other copyright lawyers; it?s clear in both the Copyright Act and in the *HathiTrust* case. There may be political or pragmatic reasons to require proof of purchase, but there is no copyright reason. Best, Brandon ? Brandon Butler | Director of Information Policy | University of Virginia Library | bcb4y@virginia.edu | 434.982.5874 | @bc_butler | Alderman Library, 160 N. McCormick Road, Charlottesville, VA 22903 | Alderman 533 |The Taper|he/him/his On Nov 8, 2019, at 2:36 PM, Robert Spangler > wrote: Hello everyone, thanks for your responses. We went to the instructor and they actually did happen to have an extra copy available, so we will be scanning it and providing it to the student. On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 2:14 PM Michael Hoel > wrote: Did you try the instructor for a copy that you can scan? Michael Hoel Director, Disability Services Past President ? WAPED Technical Advisor ? DSSC RN, BS, ATACP Centralia College 600 W. Centralia College Blvd Centralia, WA 98531 360-736-9391 x8437 Fax: 360-330-7103 www.centralia.edu/students/disabilities/ From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 9:18 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Book for an online student CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Centralia College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Susan et al, In my own defense, I did mention purchasing the book as one of the options at our disposal. Wink On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, 8:40 AM Justin Romack > wrote: Agree with Susan?s take on this. It would be my advice as well. Ultimately, the student isn?t the one legally obligated to provide access ? the university is. Fortunately, it sounds like the cost of the book is low ? so it won?t be an extreme expense for Robert?s office to purchase and begin processing these materials ? but even if it were, is it worth delaying the process and risking litigation for failing to accommodate this student?s needs? No doubt the water is a little murky on this one ? but when black and white turn to grey, I?m going to air on the side of caution and make sure access is top of mind ? no matter the cost. Thanks for being such a great community that can dispense advice for all of our oddities and edge cases. Y?all really are a super group! Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:25 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Book for an online student Wink, the book is not available from the publisher. Normal process would be to scan the book, but the student is a distance learner, so putting the burden of mailing the book onto the student seems unfair. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 9:16 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Book for an online student Robert, Why would they have to mail the book to you? We only require proof of ?ownership? which could be copy of a receipt, check out slip from a library, photo of their name written on it. Many times I?ve converted a book electronically for a student long before a semester started and released it electronically after ?proof? of possession of the book. Our department considered the cost of purchasing & converting books as part of our cost of doing business. We worked out a buy back agreement with the bookstore. Sometimes we were able to get a desk copy from the publisher or the instructor or the department which we could use to cut, scan and rebind. Hopefully someone on the listserv will have an electronic version of the book and can share it with you. Wink On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 6:36 AM Robert Spangler > wrote: It's not necessarily sharing the scanned files, but asking the student to mail me the physical book that's the difficulty. Is that fair to do, since they would have to pay to do this? Or would we be expected to buy a copy of the book or reimburse his shipping? On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM Wink Harner > wrote: Hi Robert et al ATHENITES, We did this frequently at Southern Oregon University not just for students in online classes but for all students (mostly all). We used Sugar Sync, and online filesharing application, and would convert the books to the appropriate format and upload the files to sugar sync, where the students could logon and download wherever they happened to be. There are a number of apps that are free that are efficient and easy to use in this category, we chose one for the college that was a paid subscription service, was not terribly expensive, but because we wanted to protect both the privacy of the student and the copyright of the books we created individual links for each student for their books and contract when or if they downloaded the books or if other attempts were made to download the books. The files are removed each semester. If a student needs it again, we can reload the file for them. If you need help with recommendations on cloud-based services, let us know. Sure there are many of us online it would be happy to share recommendations. This is more common than you might think! There are fairly simple ways of dealing with it. Now you know :-) Hope this helps. Wink Harner Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler > wrote: Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else experienced this issue, and what did you do? Thanks, Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Fri Nov 8 13:44:48 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Fri Nov 8 13:45:00 2019 Subject: [Athen] My latest letter to Pearson Message-ID: I submitted the following under my case number so they already have the textbook and class IDS: I am finishing up my seventh week using MySpanishLab with a screen reader and have found workarounds for some of the problems I previously reported. I will list them below, but first, my biggest issue currently is that I still haven't been able to complete any of the drag-and-drop exercises. Week 7 has five I have encountered so far. In previous communications I was told not to press control and tab together; the instructions for all these exercises are consistent and they tell me to use tab to navigate to an item and control to drag it. Please explain how I'm supposed to use control to drag without using a mouse! If I navigate to item A with the tab and press control nothing is going to happen. If I hold control while I try to use tab to navigate to where I want to drop it, I'm effectively pressing control-tab which changes the browser focus to a different browser tab. Tab navigates from one link to the next. Even if it does navigate me to an object I need to drag, I find no way to actually transport that object to the drop location using the keyboard. Screen readers allow the user to navigate through a page using a variety of keystrokes, but the only way to move through a page using just keyboard commands is the tab and shift-tab key, unless the web designer added special keystrokes for doing so, such as in Office 365 online. Facebook and twitter also have extra keystrokes for navigating. But these instructions only mention using control, which I could hold down all day without anything on the page changing. We either need to admit these exercises are inaccessible, or I need a clearer set of instructions such as 1) Press ___ to navigate to a chosen object. 2) Press ____ to initiate a drag operation. 3) Press ____ to navigate to where the object is to be dropped. 4) Press ____ to drop the object. It would be helpful instead of simply hearing that Pearson's tester did not have problems with these pages to actually communicate with someone familiar with screen readers who can explain how to perform the drag and drop on the lab exercises. As I've explained before, it's not a problem with the tutorials, where one presses alt-5 to initiate a drag operation and alt-enter to drop the object. That was documented accurately though clumsily. (I did try alt-5 and alt-enter of course on the lab exercises which apparently were created by a different web designer as they didn't work either!) Now for the workarounds. Though the exercises still sometimes have maps or drawings that are not described completely enough for a sight-impaired user to complete the exercise, I've found in the accessible textbook that some graphics have longer descriptions. I missed this at first, because to be more effective in the classroom I'd saved the required pages to my PC and was reading them offline. I discovered that if I am reading a page online and click on a link labeled simply "D", a longer description appears - because a secondary page loads. This doesn't happen if one is viewing the page offline. This needs to be documented "In order to view this description you must be online" or some such. You can imagine that not every classroom might have a fast internet connection so a student is likely to save pages to their laptop to read offline. A page saved offline will not have access to the long description and clear documentation would have saved me hours of frustration! I have also located the textbook audio, practice audio and textbook video under three tabs under downloadable materials under optional review activities. I understand these are directly linked to in the inaccessible (image-based) textbook but not in the accessible (text-based) version of the textbook. So I can access this content, I just needed a few weeks to discover it was also available under "optional review activities". Again, this should be documented so the sight-impaired user can quickly and easily locate this important content. It seems like many problems I experienced doing the labs and reading the textbook could have been fixed by a competent technical writer simply spending a few hours documenting how to use the accessible materials. It's even possible the drag and drop is keyboard accessible and only good documentation is needed to clarify how to use it! As a textbook publisher, Pearson should be able to round up a writer to improve this situation! --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hello all, I have been reviewing some past settlement agreements regarding website accessibility complaint reporting and am looking for specific timelines and/or timeframes by which the college is expected to respond. I have heard people comment that two business days is an appropriate timeframe by which to respond to someone reporting an accessibility issue on the website, but cannot find any information in past OCR settlements or other resolutions. Most of the language I have found just states that a "timely" response is required. What timeline or timeframe have you specified in your complaint reporting process by which a response will be provided to the person reporting an issue? Are there specific settlement agreements you used to make this determination? 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Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 8:36 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Book for an online student CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. It's not necessarily sharing the scanned files, but asking the student to mail me the physical book that's the difficulty. Is that fair to do, since they would have to pay to do this? Or would we be expected to buy a copy of the book or reimburse his shipping? On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM Wink Harner > wrote: Hi Robert et al ATHENITES, We did this frequently at Southern Oregon University not just for students in online classes but for all students (mostly all). We used Sugar Sync, and online filesharing application, and would convert the books to the appropriate format and upload the files to sugar sync, where the students could logon and download wherever they happened to be. There are a number of apps that are free that are efficient and easy to use in this category, we chose one for the college that was a paid subscription service, was not terribly expensive, but because we wanted to protect both the privacy of the student and the copyright of the books we created individual links for each student for their books and contract when or if they downloaded the books or if other attempts were made to download the books. The files are removed each semester. If a student needs it again, we can reload the file for them. If you need help with recommendations on cloud-based services, let us know. Sure there are many of us online it would be happy to share recommendations. This is more common than you might think! There are fairly simple ways of dealing with it. Now you know :-) Hope this helps. Wink Harner Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler > wrote: Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else experienced this issue, and what did you do? Thanks, Robert -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Mon Nov 11 07:37:19 2019 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Mon Nov 11 07:37:52 2019 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Book for an online student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I didn?t either! I?m with everyone who chimed in about having our DSS office buy the book(s) and scan to appropriate alt format for the student. Cheers Wink On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:50 AM Robert Beach wrote: > Sorry, I didn?t understand your question. Just to make life easier for > all, I would purchase the book. It?s the cost of accommodating an online > student. It cannot be a cost put on the student. > > > > > > > > Robert Lee Beach > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Kansas City Kansas Community College > > 7250 State Avenue > > > Kansas City, KS > > 66112 > > > Phone: 913-288-7671 > > Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Robert Spangler > *Sent:* Friday, November 8, 2019 8:36 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [EXT]Re: [Athen] Book for an online student > > > > *CAUTION:** This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or > open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all > suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu .* > > It's not necessarily sharing the scanned files, but asking the student to > mail me the physical book that's the difficulty. Is that fair to do, since > they would have to pay to do this? Or would we be expected to buy a copy > of the book or reimburse his shipping? > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM Wink Harner wrote: > > Hi Robert et al ATHENITES, > > We did this frequently at Southern Oregon University not just for students > in online classes but for all students (mostly all). We used Sugar Sync, > and online filesharing application, and would convert the books to the > appropriate format and upload the files to sugar sync, where the students > could logon and download wherever they happened to be. > > There are a number of apps that are free that are efficient and easy to > use in this category, we chose one for the college that was a paid > subscription service, was not terribly expensive, but because we wanted to > protect both the privacy of the student and the copyright of the books we > created individual links for each student for their books and contract when > or if they downloaded the books or if other attempts were made to download > the books. The files are removed each semester. If a student needs it > again, we can reload the file for them. > > If you need help with recommendations on cloud-based services, let us > know. Sure there are many of us online it would be happy to share > recommendations. > > This is more common than you might think! There are fairly simple ways of > dealing with it. Now you know :-) > Hope this helps. > > Wink Harner > > Wink Harner > > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > > The Foreign Type > > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler > wrote: > > Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled > in one of our online programs and is not local. The publisher has not > responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook. > Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this > is hardly convenient given the student is not local. Has anyone else > experienced this issue, and what did you do? > > > > Thanks, > > Robert > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park > > | > > Dayton, Ohio 45469 > -1302 > > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park > > | > > Dayton, Ohio 45469 > -1302 > > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I could not find information that identified what constituted an acceptable initial response - that is, a person reports a barrier and what is the time frame by which the institution responds to that notification. Will keep searching... Take care, Sean On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 1:13 PM Lissner, Scott wrote: > Sean, > > As you say the ocr resolutions do not define a timeframe but they do > review the policies that generally do define time frames. Have you looked > at those? > > > L. Scott Lissner, > The Ohio State University > ADA Coordinator and 504 Compliance Officer > Associate, John Glenn School of Public Affairs > Lecturer, Knowlton School of Architecture, Moritz College of Law & > Disability Studies > > (614) 292-6207(v); (614) 688-8605 <(614)%20688-8605>(tty) (614) 688-3665 > (fax); Http://ada.osu.edu > 21 East 11th Ave., Columbus, Ohio. 43210 > > April 6-7, 2020 The Twentieth Annual > Multiple Perspectives Conference > https://ada.osu.edu/multiple-perspectives-conference/20th-annual-conference > > On Nov 8, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Sean Keegan wrote: > > ? > Hello all, > > I have been reviewing some past settlement agreements regarding website > accessibility complaint reporting and am looking for specific timelines > and/or timeframes by which the college is expected to respond. > > I have heard people comment that two business days is an appropriate > timeframe by which to respond to someone reporting an accessibility issue > on the website, but cannot find any information in past OCR settlements or > other resolutions. 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Box 3326 Moraga, CA 94575-3260 Filippi Academic Hall, Suite 190 Office: (925) 631-5071 Email: abs13@stmarys-ca.edu On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 7:57 AM Sean Keegan wrote: > Hi, > > I have looked for some of those policies to see if they are online, but > have not been able to find them. There is a policy or procedure noted on > the accessibility website, but that information is not linked and I ended > up going down various rabbit holes trying to find such policy/procedure > information on the institution's website. > > Some institutions also reference that the institution?s formal grievance > process will be used for any reported barriers, but those generally involve > very long time frames to initiate an investigation or review into any > reported problem. I could not find information that identified what > constituted an acceptable initial response - that is, a person reports a > barrier and what is the time frame by which the institution responds to > that notification. > > Will keep searching... > > Take care, > Sean > > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 1:13 PM Lissner, Scott wrote: > >> Sean, >> >> As you say the ocr resolutions do not define a timeframe but they do >> review the policies that generally do define time frames. Have you looked >> at those? >> >> >> L. Scott Lissner, >> The Ohio State University >> ADA Coordinator and 504 Compliance Officer >> Associate, John Glenn School of Public Affairs >> Lecturer, Knowlton School of Architecture, Moritz College of Law & >> Disability Studies >> >> (614) 292-6207(v); (614) 688-8605 <(614)%20688-8605>(tty) (614) 688-3665 >> (fax); Http://ada.osu.edu >> 21 East 11th Ave., Columbus, Ohio. 43210 >> >> April 6-7, 2020 The Twentieth Annual >> Multiple Perspectives Conference >> >> https://ada.osu.edu/multiple-perspectives-conference/20th-annual-conference >> >> On Nov 8, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Sean Keegan >> wrote: >> >> ? >> Hello all, >> >> I have been reviewing some past settlement agreements regarding website >> accessibility complaint reporting and am looking for specific timelines >> and/or timeframes by which the college is expected to respond. >> >> I have heard people comment that two business days is an appropriate >> timeframe by which to respond to someone reporting an accessibility issue >> on the website, but cannot find any information in past OCR settlements or >> other resolutions. 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To select your main conference breakout session choices, go to the url below. *Important: Please follow these 6 (somewhat) simple steps:* 1- Once you select the url below , enter your confirmation number: (check your confirmation email or use the link to retrieve your number at the URL below or above) 2. Select the "OK" button 3. Use the "next" button at the bottom of each page to navigate to the 5th page. 4. Move down the 5th page until you find the heading "Please select your breakout sessions." 5. Select your breakout sessions from the choices listed for each day of the main conference. 6. Use the "next" button twice to move to the "submit payment" page. Select "Finish" to complete the process. *You will then be able to save and print out your schedule. You can also return and change your schedule at any time by returning to the link below.* * * * Select Main Conference Workshops * If you have questions, contact Howard Kramer at 303-492-8672 or ahg@ahead.org -- Regards, Howard Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 Join us for the *Accessing Higher Ground Conference * in Westminster, Colorado, Nov 18-22, 2019. Request for proposals will be announced mid-March. Complete program information and registration is open for our full line-up of webinars, *AHEADtoYOU! * And the *Technology Access Series *. Site capacities for all webinar events is limited; please register at your earliest convenience for the largest selection. Not yet a member of AHEAD? *We welcome you to join AHEAD now. * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Move down the 5th page until you find the heading "Please select your breakout sessions." 6. Select your breakout sessions from the choices listed for each day of the main conference. 7. Use the "next" button twice to move to the "submit payment" page. Select "Finish" to complete the process. *You will then be able to save and print out your schedule. You can also return and change your schedule at any time by returning to the link below.* * * * Select Main Conference Workshops * On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 2:21 PM Howard Kramer wrote: > Dear ATHEN members: > > If you're attending AHG 2019 next week, please use the instructions below > to select your breakout sessions. This will help me select proctors (just > folks who get help for the speaker if needed) for the sessions. > > To select your main conference breakout session choices, go to the url > below. > > *Important: Please follow these 6 (somewhat) simple steps:* > > 1- Once you select the url below > , > enter your confirmation number: (check your confirmation email or use the > link to retrieve your number at the URL below or above) > > 2. Select the "OK" button > > 3. Use the "next" button at the bottom of each page to navigate to the 5th > page. > > 4. Move down the 5th page until you find the heading "Please select your breakout > sessions." > > 5. Select your breakout sessions from the choices listed for each day of > the main conference. > > 6. Use the "next" button twice to move to the "submit payment" page. > Select "Finish" to complete the process. > > *You will then be able to save and print out your schedule. You can also > return and change your schedule at any time by returning to the link below.* > > > * > * > > > > * > Select Main > Conference Workshops > * > > If you have questions, contact Howard Kramer at 303-492-8672 or > ahg@ahead.org > > -- > Regards, > Howard > > Howard Kramer > Conference Coordinator > Accessing Higher Ground > 303-492-8672 > cell: 720-351-8668 > > Join us for the *Accessing Higher Ground Conference > * in Westminster, Colorado, Nov > 18-22, 2019. Request for proposals will be announced mid-March. > > > > Complete program information and registration is open for our full line-up > of webinars, *AHEADtoYOU! > * And the *Technology > Access Series *. > Site capacities for all webinar events is limited; please register at your > earliest convenience for the largest selection. > > > > Not yet a member of AHEAD? *We welcome you to join AHEAD now. > * > > -- Regards, Howard Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 Join us for the *Accessing Higher Ground Conference * in Westminster, Colorado, Nov 18-22, 2019. Request for proposals will be announced mid-March. Complete program information and registration is open for our full line-up of webinars, *AHEADtoYOU! * And the *Technology Access Series *. Site capacities for all webinar events is limited; please register at your earliest convenience for the largest selection. 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Scott *Overview* Plan and manage the delivery of reasonable accommodations with primary responsibility for media access and print access services of the Disability Resource Center. This position reports to the Assistant Director of Access Programs of the Disability Resource Center. This position supervises media access and print access unit staff such as; media captionists, media coordinators/schedulers, document conversion editors, document conversion coordinators, etc., and is responsible for recruiting, hiring, and training of staff as necessary. The Assistant Director ensures that consumers' media captioning related needs are met through oversight and management of the day-to-day operations of media captioning and document conversion services. The Assistant Director provides outreach and information to students, faculty, staff, and community members and acts as a liaison to University departments. This position works in partnership with the Interpreting/Captioning unit. -- Scott Marshall Associate Director University of Minnesota Disability Resource Center o. 612.626.4954 m. 612.245.7632 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer at ahead.org Wed Nov 13 12:39:34 2019 From: hkramer at ahead.org (Howard Kramer) Date: Wed Nov 13 12:40:35 2019 Subject: [Athen] Correction x2: ATHEN members - select your breakouts at AHG 2019 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: (Let's see if the 3rd time is the charm. Note step 4, the selection of the "modify" button to get into your registration.) If you're attending AHG 2019 next week, please use the instructions below to select your breakout sessions. This will help me select proctors (just folks who get help for the speaker if needed) for the sessions. To select your main conference breakout session choices, go to the url below. *Important: Please follow these 6 (somewhat) simple steps:* 1- Once you select the url below , then select the option "already registered?". 2 - Enter your email and confirmation number: (check your confirmation email or use the link provided to retrieve your number at the URL below or above) 3. Select the "OK" button 4. Select the "modify" button to access your registration 5. Use the "next" button at the bottom of each page to navigate to the 5th page. 6. Move down the 5th page until you find the heading "Please select your breakout sessions." 7. Select your breakout sessions from the choices listed for each day of the main conference. 8. Use the "next" button twice to move to the "submit payment" page. Select "Finish" to complete the process. *You will then be able to save and print out your schedule. You can also return and change your schedule at any time by returning to the link below.* * * * Select Main Conference Workshops * On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 2:51 PM Howard Kramer wrote: > Instead of using the link I provided in my previous email, go to > http://www.cvent.com/d/9yq1hh and select the link for "already > registered?" Then enter your confirmation number and email when prompted. > > So the full directions should look like: > > To select your main conference breakout session choices, go to the url > below. > > *Important: Please follow these 6 (somewhat) simple steps:* > > 1- Once you select the url below , then > select the option "already registered?". > > 2 - Enter your email and confirmation number: (check your confirmation > email or use the link provided to retrieve your number at the URL below or > above) > > 3. Select the "OK" button > > 4. Use the "next" button at the bottom of each page to navigate to the 5th > page. > > 5. Move down the 5th page until you find the heading > "Please select your breakout sessions." > > 6. Select your breakout sessions from the choices listed for each day of > the main conference. > > 7. Use the "next" button twice to move to the "submit payment" > page. Select "Finish" to complete the process. > > *You will then be able to save and print out your schedule. You can also > return and change your schedule at any time by returning to the link below.* > > > * > * > > * > Select Main > Conference Workshops * > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 2:21 PM Howard Kramer wrote: > >> Dear ATHEN members: >> >> If you're attending AHG 2019 next week, please use the instructions below >> to select your breakout sessions. This will help me select proctors (just >> folks who get help for the speaker if needed) for the sessions. >> >> To select your main conference breakout session choices, go to the url >> below. >> >> *Important: Please follow these 6 (somewhat) simple steps:* >> >> 1- Once you select the url below >> , >> enter your confirmation number: (check your confirmation email or use >> the link to retrieve your number at the URL below or above) >> >> 2. Select the "OK" button >> >> 3. Use the "next" button at the bottom of each page to navigate to the >> 5th page. >> >> 4. Move down the 5th page until you find the heading "Please select your breakout >> sessions." >> >> 5. Select your breakout sessions from the choices listed for each day of >> the main conference. >> >> 6. Use the "next" button twice to move to the "submit payment" page. >> Select "Finish" to complete the process. >> >> *You will then be able to save and print out your schedule. You can also >> return and change your schedule at any time by returning to the link below.* >> >> >> * >> * >> >> >> >> * >> Select Main >> Conference Workshops >> * >> >> If you have questions, contact Howard Kramer at 303-492-8672 or >> ahg@ahead.org >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Howard >> >> Howard Kramer >> Conference Coordinator >> Accessing Higher Ground >> 303-492-8672 >> cell: 720-351-8668 >> >> Join us for the *Accessing Higher Ground Conference >> * in Westminster, Colorado, Nov >> 18-22, 2019. Request for proposals will be announced mid-March. >> >> >> >> Complete program information and registration is open for our full >> line-up of webinars, *AHEADtoYOU! >> * And the *Technology >> Access Series *. >> Site capacities for all webinar events is limited; please register at your >> earliest convenience for the largest selection. >> >> >> >> Not yet a member of AHEAD? *We welcome you to join AHEAD now. >> * >> >> > > -- > Regards, > Howard > > Howard Kramer > Conference Coordinator > Accessing Higher Ground > 303-492-8672 > cell: 720-351-8668 > > Join us for the *Accessing Higher Ground Conference > * in Westminster, Colorado, Nov > 18-22, 2019. Request for proposals will be announced mid-March. > > > > Complete program information and registration is open for our full line-up > of webinars, *AHEADtoYOU! > * And the *Technology > Access Series *. > Site capacities for all webinar events is limited; please register at your > earliest convenience for the largest selection. > > > > Not yet a member of AHEAD? *We welcome you to join AHEAD now. > * > > -- Regards, Howard Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 Join us for the *Accessing Higher Ground Conference * in Westminster, Colorado, Nov 18-22, 2019. Request for proposals will be announced mid-March. Complete program information and registration is open for our full line-up of webinars, *AHEADtoYOU! * And the *Technology Access Series *. Site capacities for all webinar events is limited; please register at your earliest convenience for the largest selection. 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If such a complaint is received by any campus, college, or VP unit, the complaint must be forwarded to the Digital Accessibility Center using the Digital Accessibility Complaint Form within one business day. 1. Within two business days of receiving a complaint, the Digital Accessibility Center or the ADA Coordinator?s Office will notify the eligible person or their representative that their complaint has been received and answer any questions about the complaint process. 2. Within 10 business days of receiving a complaint, the Digital Accessibility Center will: a. Conduct, or cause to be conducted, an evaluation of the digital information, digital service, or any alternatives provided by the campus, college, or VP unit in question; or b. Notify the eligible person or their representative of the need for additional time to conduct an evaluation. B. Once the evaluation has been completed, in consultation with the Digital Accessibility Center, the ADA Coordinator will determine what action, if any, is needed. C. The Digital Accessibility Center or the ADA Coordinator will inform the individual of the outcome of their complaint and the campus, college, or VP unit of any actions they must take to comply with this policy. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Sean Keegan Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 10:39 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Complaint reporting process and response timelines Hi, I have looked for some of those policies to see if they are online, but have not been able to find them. There is a policy or procedure noted on the accessibility website, but that information is not linked and I ended up going down various rabbit holes trying to find such policy/procedure information on the institution's website. Some institutions also reference that the institution?s formal grievance process will be used for any reported barriers, but those generally involve very long time frames to initiate an investigation or review into any reported problem. I could not find information that identified what constituted an acceptable initial response - that is, a person reports a barrier and what is the time frame by which the institution responds to that notification. Will keep searching... Take care, Sean On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 1:13 PM Lissner, Scott > wrote: Sean, As you say the ocr resolutions do not define a timeframe but they do review the policies that generally do define time frames. Have you looked at those? L. Scott Lissner, The Ohio State University ADA Coordinator and 504 Compliance Officer Associate, John Glenn School of Public Affairs Lecturer, Knowlton School of Architecture, Moritz College of Law & Disability Studies (614) 292-6207(v); (614) 688-8605(tty) (614) 688-3665(fax); Http://ada.osu.edu 21 East 11th Ave., Columbus, Ohio. 43210 April 6-7, 2020 The Twentieth Annual Multiple Perspectives Conference https://ada.osu.edu/multiple-perspectives-conference/20th-annual-conference On Nov 8, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Sean Keegan > wrote: ? Hello all, I have been reviewing some past settlement agreements regarding website accessibility complaint reporting and am looking for specific timelines and/or timeframes by which the college is expected to respond. I have heard people comment that two business days is an appropriate timeframe by which to respond to someone reporting an accessibility issue on the website, but cannot find any information in past OCR settlements or other resolutions. 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URL: From tkearns at tmcc.edu Thu Nov 14 08:28:04 2019 From: tkearns at tmcc.edu (Thomas Kearns) Date: Thu Nov 14 08:29:46 2019 Subject: [Athen] My latest letter to Pearson In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I want to personally thank you for exposing these issues and then sharing what you have found. *Thomas Kearns* Assistive Technician / Accessibility Specialist ATACP Office of Disability Resource Center Truckee Meadows Community College 7000 Dandini Blvd. (RDMT 122) Reno, Nevada 89512 Wk: 775-673-7209 Fax 775-673-7207 Email: tkearns@tmcc.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 1:47 PM Deborah Armstrong wrote: > I submitted the following under my case number so they already have the > textbook and class IDS: > > > > I am finishing up my seventh week using MySpanishLab with a screen reader > and have found workarounds for some of the problems I previously reported. > I will list them below, but first, my biggest issue currently is that I > still haven?t been able to complete any of the drag-and-drop exercises. > Week 7 has five I have encountered so far. > > > > In previous communications I was told not to press control and tab > together; the instructions for all these exercises are consistent and they > tell me to use tab to navigate to an item and control to drag it. > > > > Please explain how I?m supposed to use control to drag without using a > mouse! If I navigate to item A with the tab and press control nothing is > going to happen. If I hold control while I try to use tab to navigate to > where I want to drop it, I?m effectively pressing control-tab which changes > the browser focus to a different browser tab. > > Tab navigates from one link to the next. Even if it does navigate me to an > object I need to drag, I find no way to actually transport that object to > the drop location using the keyboard. > > > > Screen readers allow the user to navigate through a page using a variety > of keystrokes, but the only way to move through a page using just keyboard > commands is the tab and shift-tab key, unless the web designer added > special keystrokes for doing so, such as in Office 365 online. Facebook and > twitter also have extra keystrokes for navigating. But these instructions > only mention using control, which I could hold down all day without > anything on the page changing. > > > > We either need to admit these exercises are inaccessible, or I need a > clearer set of instructions such as > > > > 1) Press ___ to navigate to a chosen object. > > 2) Press ____ to initiate a drag operation. > > 3) Press ____ to navigate to where the object is to be dropped. > > 4) Press ____ to drop the object. > > > > It would be helpful instead of simply hearing that Pearson?s tester did > not have problems with these pages to actually communicate with someone > familiar with screen readers who can explain how to perform the drag and > drop on the lab exercises. As I?ve explained before, it?s not a problem > with the tutorials, where one presses alt-5 to initiate a drag operation > and alt-enter to drop the object. That was documented accurately though > clumsily. (I did try alt-5 and alt-enter of course on the lab exercises > which apparently were created by a different web designer as they didn?t > work either!) > > Now for the workarounds. Though the exercises still sometimes have maps > or drawings that are not described completely enough for a sight-impaired > user to complete the exercise, I?ve found in the accessible textbook that > some graphics have longer descriptions. I missed this at first, because to > be more effective in the classroom I?d saved the required pages to my PC > and was reading them offline. I discovered that if I am reading a page > online and click on a link labeled simply ?D?, a longer description appears > ? because a secondary page loads. This doesn?t happen if one is viewing the > page offline. This needs to be documented ?In order to view this > description you must be online? or some such. You can imagine that not > every classroom might have a fast internet connection so a student is > likely to save pages to their laptop to read offline. A page saved offline > will not have access to the long description and clear documentation would > have saved me hours of frustration! > > > > I have also located the textbook audio, practice audio and textbook video > under three tabs under downloadable materials under optional review > activities. I understand these are directly linked to in the inaccessible > (image-based) textbook but not in the accessible (text-based) version of > the textbook. So I can access this content, I just needed a few weeks to > discover it was also available under ?optional review activities?. > > > > Again, this should be documented so the sight-impaired user can quickly > and easily locate this important content. > > > > It seems like many problems I experienced doing the labs and reading the > textbook could have been fixed by a competent technical writer simply > spending a few hours documenting how to use the accessible materials. It?s > even possible the drag and drop is keyboard accessible and only good > documentation is needed to clarify how to use it! > > > > As a textbook publisher, Pearson should be able to round up a writer to > improve this situation! > > > > --Debee > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- -- *Public Records Notice:*?In accordance with Nevada Revised Statutes (NRS) Chapter 239, this email and responses, unless otherwise made confidential by law, may be subject to the Nevada Public Records laws and may be disclosed to the public upon request. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abs13 at stmarys-ca.edu Thu Nov 14 09:48:54 2019 From: abs13 at stmarys-ca.edu (Auston Stamm) Date: Thu Nov 14 09:50:07 2019 Subject: [Athen] Complaint reporting process and response timelines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you both for sharing! Yes, the ability to report an accessibility barrier and written policy explaining the process is what I was curious about. Based on what I've heard those methods used in conjunction would be effective in preventing accessibility lawsuits. *---------------------* *Auston Stamm* *he / him / his* Coordinator Accessibility & Assistive Technology Student Disability Services Occupational Therapist Registered/Licensed Saint Mary's College of California 1928 St. Mary's Road P.O. Box 3326 Moraga, CA 94575-3260 Filippi Academic Hall, Suite 190 Office: (925) 631-5071 Email: abs13@stmarys-ca.edu On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:15 PM Bossley, Peter A. wrote: > Sean, > > Ohio State?s Digital Accessibility Policy > outlines our response to a > complaint related to digital access: > > > > I. Complaints > > A. If an eligible person or a representative of an eligible person is > dissatisfied with any campus, college, or VP unit?s response to an accessibility > request or other performance under this policy, they may file a complaint with > the Director of the Digital Accessibility Center (accessibility@osu.edu; > 614-292-1760; 1800 Cannon Drive, Room 950, Columbus, OH 43210) or with the > ADA Coordinator & 504 Compliance Officer (ADA-OSU@osu.edu; 614-292-6207; > 21 E. 11th Avenue, Columbus, OH 43201). If such a complaint is received > by any campus, college, or VP unit, the complaint must be forwarded to the > Digital Accessibility Center using the Digital Accessibility Complaint > Form *within one business day*. > > 1. *Within two business days* of receiving a complaint, the Digital > Accessibility Center or the ADA Coordinator?s Office will notify the > eligible person or their representative that their complaint has been > received and answer any questions about the complaint process. > > 2. *Within 10 business days* of receiving a complaint, the Digital > Accessibility Center will: > > a. Conduct, or cause to be conducted, an evaluation of the digital > information, digital service, or any alternatives provided by the campus, > college, or VP unit in question; or > > b. Notify the eligible person or their representative of the need > for additional time to conduct an evaluation. > > B. Once the evaluation has been completed, in consultation with the > Digital Accessibility Center, the ADA Coordinator will determine what > action, if any, is needed. > > C. The Digital Accessibility Center or the ADA Coordinator will > inform the individual of the outcome of their complaint and the campus, > college, or VP unit of any actions they must take to comply with this > policy. > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Sean Keegan > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 12, 2019 10:39 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Complaint reporting process and response timelines > > > > Hi, > > > > I have looked for some of those policies to see if they are online, but > have not been able to find them. There is a policy or procedure noted on > the accessibility website, but that information is not linked and I ended > up going down various rabbit holes trying to find such policy/procedure > information on the institution's website. > > > > Some institutions also reference that the institution?s formal grievance > process will be used for any reported barriers, but those generally involve > very long time frames to initiate an investigation or review into any > reported problem. I could not find information that identified what > constituted an acceptable initial response - that is, a person reports a > barrier and what is the time frame by which the institution responds to > that notification. > > > > Will keep searching... > > > > Take care, > > Sean > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 1:13 PM Lissner, Scott wrote: > > Sean, > > > > As you say the ocr resolutions do not define a timeframe but they do > review the policies that generally do define time frames. Have you looked > at those? > > > > > > L. Scott Lissner, > > The Ohio State University > > ADA Coordinator and 504 Compliance Officer > Associate, John Glenn School of Public Affairs > Lecturer, Knowlton School of Architecture, Moritz College of Law & > Disability Studies > > > (614) 292-6207(v); (614) 688-8605(tty) (614) 688-3665(fax); > Http://ada.osu.edu > 21 East 11th Ave., Columbus, Ohio. 43210 > > > > April 6-7, 2020 The Twentieth Annual > > Multiple Perspectives Conference > > https://ada.osu.edu/multiple-perspectives-conference/20th-annual-conference > > > > On Nov 8, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Sean Keegan wrote: > > ? > > Hello all, > > > > I have been reviewing some past settlement agreements regarding website > accessibility complaint reporting and am looking for specific timelines > and/or timeframes by which the college is expected to respond. > > > > I have heard people comment that two business days is an appropriate > timeframe by which to respond to someone reporting an accessibility issue > on the website, but cannot find any information in past OCR settlements or > other resolutions. Most of the language I have found just states that a > "timely" response is required. > > > > What timeline or timeframe have you specified in your complaint reporting > process by which a response will be provided to the person reporting an > issue? Are there specific settlement agreements you used to make this > determination? > > > > Thanks, > > Sean > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Most of the sites I've looked at seem to have the campus community as the intended audience for the information housed at the site. (I'm also going to propose a page for our intranet site, that has college staff as the audience for those policies, forms and practices of interest and application for our staff.) Can anyone suggest sites I should look at? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. Susie Susie Dunn Access/Equity/Diversity Specialist Southeast Community College 301 So. 68th St. Pl Lincoln, NE 68510-2449 402-323-3413; 402-323-3633 (fax) sdunn@southeast.edu www.southeast.edu Your reputation is more important than your paycheck, and your integrity is worth more than your career. Ryan Freitas ________________________________ Disclaimer: This e-mail and any attachments contain material that is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. 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Weissenberger* > > IT Accessibility Coordinator > > Information Security and Policy Office > > University of Iowa > > 319-384-3323 > > > > he/him/his > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Scott Marshall Associate Director University of Minnesota Disability Resource Center o. 612.626.4954 m. 612.245.7632 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vwalton at columbiabasin.edu Tue Nov 19 14:19:50 2019 From: vwalton at columbiabasin.edu (Walton, Vicki) Date: Tue Nov 19 14:20:03 2019 Subject: [Athen] Respondus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Maria, We tested Respondus and this is a quick overview of our findings. ? Respondus software is not totally accessible. There are features that are just images and are not read out or tagged. ? Multiple choice is not read out. Looks like an image. It is also not tagged. ? Any outputs to test/quizzes generated using Respondus will need the faculty to tag all images within Canvas. Respondus does not give you the ability to do this within its program. On a test/quizzes with images, they will need to be tagged before they can be submitted to canvas. Kurzweil skipped over every image on this question. ? No Alt key to display the hot keys for navigating ? Navigation skips ?Test Bank Network? after ?create?. Then skips ?Import Questions? and goes up to the question mark [cid:image002.jpg@01D59EE4.61D97130] . Then goes down to archive wizard. I hope this helps. ? [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton (They/Them) Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list On Behalf Of Maria Bohn Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 12:57 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Respondus CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. Our college just informed us they purchased Respondus Lockdown Browser for online tests - as they plan to roll this out regardless we were wondering about real user accessibility and what problems we may face with AT software etc? 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Burgstahler) Date: Tue Nov 19 14:22:14 2019 Subject: [Athen] Looking for examples In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <97746C4A-43D6-4624-8CAE-8C838B582177@uw.edu> The University of Washington website regarding accessible IT is at uw.edu/accessibility Sheryl Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu > On Nov 19, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Susie Dunn wrote: > > My institution is looking to develop a webpage that will house information about our commitment to accessibility on our public website. As I envision it, among other things, there will be a link to contact someone if they find something inaccessible, information about who to contact if a user has other accessibility connected concerns and basic information about our various accessibility policies and/or procedures. The intended audience for this page is the general public. > > I am looking for examples of what others have done to get ideas on how to organize the page and content ideas so I don?t overlook something important. I have already looked at numerous sites, but few have the general public as the intended audience. Most of the sites I?ve looked at seem to have the campus community as the intended audience for the information housed at the site. (I?m also going to propose a page for our intranet site, that has college staff as the audience for those policies, forms and practices of interest and application for our staff.) > > Can anyone suggest sites I should look at? > > Thank you in advance for any suggestions. > > Susie > > > Susie Dunn > Access/Equity/Diversity Specialist > Southeast Community College > 301 So. 68th St. Pl > Lincoln, NE 68510-2449 > 402-323-3413; 402-323-3633 (fax) > sdunn@southeast.edu > www.southeast.edu > > Your reputation is more important than your paycheck, and your integrity is worth more than your career. Ryan Freitas > > > > > > > > Disclaimer: This e-mail and any attachments contain material that is solely for > the use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this e-mail in > error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. If you are > not the intended recipient(s), you must not use, retain or disclose any > information contained in this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in the > message are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of > Southeast Community College. > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at ccctechcenter.org Tue Nov 19 19:01:48 2019 From: skeegan at ccctechcenter.org (Sean Keegan) Date: Tue Nov 19 19:02:13 2019 Subject: [Athen] Looking for examples In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Susie, I have collected a few examples and these are listed on our website: https://cccaccessibility.org/campus-plan/complaint-processes Take care, Sean On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 12:41 PM Susie Dunn wrote: > My institution is looking to develop a webpage that will house information > about our commitment to accessibility on our public website. As I envision > it, among other things, there will be a link to contact someone if they > find something inaccessible, information about who to contact if a user has > other accessibility connected concerns and basic information about our > various accessibility policies and/or procedures. The intended audience > for this page is the general public. > > > > I am looking for examples of what others have done to get ideas on how to > organize the page and content ideas so I don?t overlook something > important. I have already looked at numerous sites, but few have the > general public as the intended audience. Most of the sites I?ve looked at > seem to have the campus community as the intended audience for the > information housed at the site. (I?m also going to propose a page for our > intranet site, that has college staff as the audience for those policies, > forms and practices of interest and application for our staff.) > > > > Can anyone suggest sites I should look at? > > > > Thank you in advance for any suggestions. > > > > Susie > > > > > > Susie Dunn > > Access/Equity/Diversity Specialist > > Southeast Community College > > 301 So. 68 > th > St. Pl > > Lincoln, NE 68510-2449 > > 402-323-3413; 402-323-3633 (fax) > > sdunn@southeast.edu > > www.southeast.edu > > > > *Your reputation is more important than your paycheck, and your integrity > is worth more than your career. Ryan Freitas* > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Disclaimer: This e-mail and any attachments contain material that is > solely for > the use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this e-mail in > error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. If you > are > not the intended recipient(s), you must not use, retain or disclose any > information contained in this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in > the > message are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent > those of > Southeast Community College. > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mbohn at bergen.edu Wed Nov 20 06:05:47 2019 From: mbohn at bergen.edu (Maria Bohn) Date: Wed Nov 20 06:07:01 2019 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Re: Respondus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This helps a ton!! Unfortunately the powers that be tend to buy software and go by the companies stated "Accessibility Report" when we all know that doesn't necessarily mean it is functionally accessible sigh ... helps to know what we may come across as students start to use this. Maria Bohn Senior Resource Accommodations Specialist Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Specialized Services Bergen Community College On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 5:20 PM Walton, Vicki wrote: > Maria, > > > > We tested Respondus and this is a quick overview of our findings. > > > > ? Respondus software is not totally accessible. There are features > that are just images and are not read out or tagged. > > > > ? Multiple choice is not read out. Looks like an image. It is also > not tagged. > > > > ? Any outputs to test/quizzes generated using Respondus will need > the faculty to tag all images within Canvas. Respondus does not give you > the ability to do this within its program. On a test/quizzes with images, > they will need to be tagged before they can be submitted to canvas. > Kurzweil skipped over every image on this question. > > > > ? No *Alt key* to display the hot keys for navigating > > ? Navigation skips ?Test Bank Network? after ?create?. Then skips > ?Import Questions? and goes up to the question mark . Then goes down to > archive wizard. > > > > I hope this helps. J > > > > > > [image: Visit the CBC Website] > > > *Vicki Walton (They/Them)* > > *Assistive Technology Center *509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 > 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 > > [image: Follow CBC on Facebook] > [image: Follow CBC on > Instagram] [image: Follow CBC on > Twitter] [image: Follow CBC on > YouTube] [image: Follow > CBC on Snapchat] > > [image: We All Soar Together] > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Maria Bohn > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 19, 2019 12:57 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] Respondus > > > > *CAUTION:* This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. > Questions? 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But, in the end, if we get sued, the college gets sued so it makes no difference which department went ahead and purchased an inaccessible product. We just have to keep trying to educated. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton (They/Them) Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list On Behalf Of Maria Bohn Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:06 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Re: Respondus CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. This helps a ton!! Unfortunately the powers that be tend to buy software and go by the companies stated "Accessibility Report" when we all know that doesn't necessarily mean it is functionally accessible sigh ... helps to know what we may come across as students start to use this. Maria Bohn Senior Resource Accommodations Specialist Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Specialized Services Bergen Community College On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 5:20 PM Walton, Vicki > wrote: Maria, We tested Respondus and this is a quick overview of our findings. ? Respondus software is not totally accessible. There are features that are just images and are not read out or tagged. ? Multiple choice is not read out. Looks like an image. It is also not tagged. ? Any outputs to test/quizzes generated using Respondus will need the faculty to tag all images within Canvas. Respondus does not give you the ability to do this within its program. On a test/quizzes with images, they will need to be tagged before they can be submitted to canvas. Kurzweil skipped over every image on this question. ? No Alt key to display the hot keys for navigating ? Navigation skips ?Test Bank Network? after ?create?. Then skips ?Import Questions? and goes up to the question mark [cid:image009.jpg@01D59F6F.BE6A6E50] . Then goes down to archive wizard. I hope this helps. ? [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton (They/Them) Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Maria Bohn Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 12:57 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Respondus CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? 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In situations where a lockdown browser has been part of the testing solution, we?ve asked the instructor for a physical or digital copy of the exam so the student could use their assistive technology (and this hasn?t really been an issue.) I?d advise you to develop an accommodations plan for situations where an AT user is scheduled to take an exam administered through the Respondus product. The more proactive ? the better. And definitely share these concerns with ?the powers that be?, because this practice will only end in a lawsuit one of these days. Hope that?s helpful! ? Best, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Maria Bohn Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:06 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Re: Respondus This helps a ton!! Unfortunately the powers that be tend to buy software and go by the companies stated "Accessibility Report" when we all know that doesn't necessarily mean it is functionally accessible sigh ... helps to know what we may come across as students start to use this. Maria Bohn Senior Resource Accommodations Specialist Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Specialized Services Bergen Community College On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 5:20 PM Walton, Vicki > wrote: Maria, We tested Respondus and this is a quick overview of our findings. ? Respondus software is not totally accessible. There are features that are just images and are not read out or tagged. ? Multiple choice is not read out. Looks like an image. It is also not tagged. ? Any outputs to test/quizzes generated using Respondus will need the faculty to tag all images within Canvas. Respondus does not give you the ability to do this within its program. On a test/quizzes with images, they will need to be tagged before they can be submitted to canvas. Kurzweil skipped over every image on this question. ? No Alt key to display the hot keys for navigating ? Navigation skips ?Test Bank Network? after ?create?. Then skips ?Import Questions? and goes up to the question mark [cid:image002.jpg@01D59F8F.92465440] . Then goes down to archive wizard. I hope this helps. ? [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton (They/Them) Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Maria Bohn Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 12:57 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Respondus CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. Our college just informed us they purchased Respondus Lockdown Browser for online tests - as they plan to roll this out regardless we were wondering about real user accessibility and what problems we may face with AT software etc? 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Message-ID: <2A3D02A9-E6C9-4FF9-8FE8-2E2AA94C1A53@email.arizona.edu> Hi all, I?m sorry to keep pestering members to vote, but I really don?t want to need a special election because we are 10 votes away from quorum. If you are a member of ATHEN, you should have an email from membership@athenpro.org via Survey Monkey? Please take about 2 minutes to go through the voting process and vote for our Vice President, Treasurer and Member-at-Large. Thank you and see you at 6:30 tonight in Westminster IV meeting room for our annual meeting! Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. |Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you! *Maria Ortado* Interpreter Coordinator Disability Support Services Office: U216 Cape Fear Community College mortado@cfcc.edu Phone: (910) 362-7098 Dial 7-1-1 for Telecommunications Relay Service Fax: (910) 362-7113 -- E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. (NCGS.Ch.132) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Wed Nov 20 10:18:22 2019 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Wed Nov 20 10:18:35 2019 Subject: [Athen] Job Posting - Work with Employees with disabilities Message-ID: <6C84B3C6-ED49-4D94-94B9-50EA2C80B117@email.arizona.edu> Hi all, Our department is growing! We are hiring for a new position to assist with working with our disabled employees at the University of Arizona. Please see job posting at http://uacareers.com/postings/43204 Posting information is shown in the table below as well. Have a good day! Dawn Workplace Access Consultant Department Disability Resource Center (9601) Location Main Campus Position Summary The Workplace Access Consultant serves as the primary contact for University of Arizona (UArizona) employees, departments and personnel regarding disability-related workplace access. The Consultant engages with employees and supervisors to increase understanding of inclusive workplace practices, identify barriers in the work environment and determine reasonable modifications or accommodations. The Workplace Access Consultant will research essential job responsibilities, policies and best practices, and must provide sound rationale to both employees and supervisors on determination of reasonable accommodation. The Workplace Access Consultant serves as a resource to UArizona departments and personnel regarding workplace access and Universal Design and collaborates with relevant University units to provide technical direction and support to the campus community in increasing access to UA employment environments. Outstanding UA benefits include health, dental, and vision insurance plans; life insurance and disability programs; paid vacation, sick leave, and holidays; UA/ASU/NAU tuition reduction for the employee and qualified family members; state and optional retirement plans; access to UA recreation and cultural activities; and more! The University of Arizona has been recognized for our innovative work-life programs. For more information about working at the University of Arizona and relocations services, please click here. The University of Arizona is in the process of creating a new classification and compensation architecture. This University Career Architecture Project (UCAP) will revolutionize the way we think about professions and manage compensation at the UA. It is a two year initiative that will replace the current classified staff and appointed professional categories of employment with market-based job functions and families. As an applicant, UCAP will create clearer career paths and opportunities and will help you make more informed pay decisions. To learn more about this project, please visit ucap.arizona.edu. Duties & Responsibilities Essential Responsibilities/Duties ? Engages in the interactive process with employees and supervisors to assess the disability-related barrier in the work environment and develop a plan for the implementation of effective modifications or provision and coordination of reasonable accommodation. ? Reviews relevant documentation to determine eligibility for accommodations, maintaining appropriate confidentiality. ? Consults with the Assistant Director, Workplace Access, to determine appropriate modifications or accommodations when necessary. ? Prepares professional correspondence to employees and supervisors regarding the determination of eligibility and appropriate accommodations. ? Provides information and referral to employees with disabilities. ? Provides ongoing consultation to departments and supervisors on access and Universal Design. ? Assures the collection of appropriate data to support service delivery and assessment; prepares periodic activity reports. ? Provides training to staff and faculty on reasonable accommodation and disability in the workplace. ? Serves as liaison to Human Resources, Risk Management and other University units in regard to disability and the workplace environment. Professional Activities ? Works actively to develop and maintain excellent communication and working relationships with all DRC staff members to ensure effective service delivery, support and collaboration. ? Documents and maintains appropriate and accurate records in electronic and hard files. ? Maintains appropriate confidentiality in verbal and written communications. ? Participates in University committees and other work groups. ? Participates in professional development activities through presentations, publications, attendance at conferences and/or related activities. ? Stays abreast of national, state, and local disability-related issues, as well as Disability Studies scholarship, disability activism, art, and culture. Knowledge, Skills, & Abilities ? Knowledge of disability, access, and reasonable accommodation at the post-secondary level, including knowledge of federal and state laws regarding access for people with disabilities. ? Experience meeting with individuals one-on-one to gather relevant information, explain policies or processes, and develop solutions. ? Experience interpreting, explaining and applying laws and/or policies. ? Strong listening and communication skills. ? Strong writing skills and experience developing professional correspondence. Minimum Qualifications ? Master?s, Doctorate, or JD degree in a field related to disability, employment, law, human services, or related field. ? Knowledge of disability and access issues. ? Knowledge of federal and state laws regarding access for people with disabilities, including the Americans with Disabilities Act. ? Experience interpreting and applying the Americans with Disabilities Act and other access or equity related laws/policies. Preferred Qualifications ? Knowledge of Disability Studies, models of disability, and Universal Design. ? Experience working on disability access issues or institutional equity at a post-secondary institution. ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. |Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mthornt at uark.edu Wed Nov 20 10:23:41 2019 From: mthornt at uark.edu (Melanie P. Thornton) Date: Wed Nov 20 10:24:02 2019 Subject: [Athen] Looking for examples In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Susie. When I was at the U of Arkansas at Little Rock, we developed an accessibility page. The audience is both general public and campus stakeholders. I would do some things differently now, but it includes several elements that might be helpful to consider. https://ualr.edu/disability/accessibility I like U of Arizona?s page: https://www.arizona.edu/campus-accessibility All the best, Melanie ________________________________ MELANIE THORNTON, MA, CPACC coordinator of access and equity outreach Partners for Inclusive Communities University of Arkansas V/T: 501.291.3217 Partners for Inclusive Communities (Partners) is a program of the University of Arkansas College of Education and Health Professions and is Arkansas' University Center on Disabilities, a member of the nationwide Association of University Centers on Disabilities (AUCD). Let's stay connected! [Partners' Facebook Page] [Partners' Twitter Account] Pronouns: she/her/hers On November 19, 2019 at 9:08:10 PM, Sean Keegan (skeegan@ccctechcenter.org) wrote: Hi Susie, I have collected a few examples and these are listed on our website: https://cccaccessibility.org/campus-plan/complaint-processes Take care, Sean On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 12:41 PM Susie Dunn > wrote: My institution is looking to develop a webpage that will house information about our commitment to accessibility on our public website. As I envision it, among other things, there will be a link to contact someone if they find something inaccessible, information about who to contact if a user has other accessibility connected concerns and basic information about our various accessibility policies and/or procedures. The intended audience for this page is the general public. I am looking for examples of what others have done to get ideas on how to organize the page and content ideas so I don?t overlook something important. I have already looked at numerous sites, but few have the general public as the intended audience. Most of the sites I?ve looked at seem to have the campus community as the intended audience for the information housed at the site. (I?m also going to propose a page for our intranet site, that has college staff as the audience for those policies, forms and practices of interest and application for our staff.) Can anyone suggest sites I should look at? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. Susie Susie Dunn Access/Equity/Diversity Specialist Southeast Community College 301 So. 68th St. Pl Lincoln, NE 68510-2449 402-323-3413; 402-323-3633 (fax) sdunn@southeast.edu www.southeast.edu Your reputation is more important than your paycheck, and your integrity is worth more than your career. Ryan Freitas ________________________________ Disclaimer: This e-mail and any attachments contain material that is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). 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URL: From crobinson at ggc.edu Wed Nov 20 11:08:34 2019 From: crobinson at ggc.edu (Christine Robinson) Date: Wed Nov 20 11:08:45 2019 Subject: [Athen] Aegir Smart Pen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Maria - I?ve used Livescribe pens for about 8 years, for personal use in my job. Started with an Echo (which had a built-in mic, didn?t need to connect to my phone) and now have had two Livescribe 3s. I thought about getting an Aegir but it looks to me like the main difference is in its appearance, and that didn?t make a difference to me. I love using it - when it works! - and fortunately, that?s most of the time. At whatever point this one dies on me, I will get the next model. You have to be pretty tech-savvy and able to troubleshoot when it doesn?t work as it should. Sometimes it won?t pair with my smartphone until I restart the phone. And yes, the Livescribe app has to be open and the phone on, before you can start recording. I developed a ritual, before I go to a meeting, I change the phone settings so that the display doesn?t turn off, and I leave the Livescribe app open. It is definitely a drain on the battery. After the meeting is over, I go back and change the settings back. I?m willing to go through that inconvenience because again, it works great most of the time. And I know some ATHENers have had frustrating experiences with Livescribe?s tech support, but they have always been very responsive with me, the 2 or 3 times I?ve needed to contact them. My first Livescribe 3 started malfunctioning while it was still under warranty and they sent me a new one. One thing I like about using the mic in my phone, is that I get far better sound quality than I got with the teeny mic in the Echo smartpen. Having said all that about my personal use of those pens, I?m kind of amazed that people in higher ed use them to help students with disabilities. I imagine it would require a student who is comfortable with tech, with troubleshooting, and who could be meticulous about setting it up before class, so they wouldn?t end up losing a lecture. I hope this helps! Best, Chris Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Office of Educational Technology Georgia Gwinnett College | 1000 University Center Lane| Lawrenceville, GA 30043 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Maria Ortado Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 1:15 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Aegir Smart Pen I was reading some of the reviews for the Aegir Smart Pen and some people don't seem very happy with it. I see 2 main complaints: 1. The Aegir relies on the user's smart phone mic to record sound. If the phone goes to sleep, the recording stops. (If the phone stays on it drains the battery). Also if a phone call comes in to the phone, it interrupts the recording. 2. The phone and the pen must be in sync through the app and sometimes the app doesn't work or the 2 devices lose their sync. Does anyone use the Aegir model? If so, have your students experienced those issues? What is your favorite Smart Pen model? Any other insight you may have is greatly appreciated. Thank you! Maria Ortado Interpreter Coordinator Disability Support Services Office: U216 Cape Fear Community College mortado@cfcc.edu Phone: (910) 362-7098 Dial 7-1-1 for Telecommunications Relay Service Fax: (910) 362-7113 [https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1fhjDTmAdks_tawJ4_2WyNm6FaYQGaybP&revid=0B5svTlVTBNtkTktIMHBNZXkxUEpoZFNEQ0RpT0tHYmRuVzFZPQ] E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. (NCGS.Ch.132) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wils1627 at umn.edu Wed Nov 20 12:42:15 2019 From: wils1627 at umn.edu (Jay Wilson) Date: Wed Nov 20 12:43:18 2019 Subject: [Athen] Aegir Smart Pen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Maria, The large University where I work has both the Livescribe 3 and Echo models for demo. After describing, showing, and trying, I have not had any students choose the Livescribe 3 due to the need for phone connection and spotty wifi. I would recommend and have used the Echo for it's simplicity and reliability. Only the pen and notebook or printed paper are needed in order to take notes. It also removes concerns from instructors about a phone being out and in use. *Jay Wilson, **M.S.W.* Senior Access Consultant *Disability Resource Center - Student Access * *UMN *- Twin Cities Pronouns : He/him/his Check out the DRC Facebook page for updates, news, culture, and community. > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Maria Ortado > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2019 1:15 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] Aegir Smart Pen > > > > I was reading some of the reviews for the Aegir Smart Pen and some people > don't seem very happy with it. I see 2 main complaints: > > > > 1. The Aegir relies on the user's smart phone mic to record sound. If the > phone goes to sleep, the recording stops. (If the phone stays on it drains > the battery). Also if a phone call comes in to the phone, it interrupts the > recording. > > > > 2. The phone and the pen must be in sync through the app and sometimes the > app doesn't work or the 2 devices lose their sync. > > > > Does anyone use the Aegir model? If so, have your students experienced > those issues? What is your favorite Smart Pen model? Any other insight you > may have is greatly appreciated. > > > > Thank you! > > > > *Maria Ortado* > > Interpreter Coordinator > > Disability Support Services > Office: U216 > Cape Fear Community College > mortado@cfcc.edu > > Phone: (910) 362-7098 > Dial 7-1-1 for Telecommunications Relay Service > > > Fax: (910) 362-7113 > > > E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North > Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an > authorized state official. 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With the Echo (and previously, the Pulse), the student merely needs the smartpen and a Livescribe spiral notebook ? familiar items, no special tech awareness needed "in the moment" when recording a lecture or discussion while handwriting notes. (Uploading to Livescribe Desktop or Echo Desktop later ? that?s different.) If the student needs better audio quality, mitigate those issues by either sitting closer or using the Livescribe 3D Recording Headset . (The "3D" just means it?s stereo; it really does provide better audio quality than the Echo?s built-in mic.) As you point out, the Livescribe 3 and Aegir models don?t have built-in microphones and use the mic from the linked mobile device (iOS or Android). This does add another layer of required tech-savviness and/or tech-awareness which may be a problem for some students, especially in the stressful moments as class is about to begin. Students who needed the linked audio+notes but struggle with that added layer of complexity and potential unreliability may need to consider other options for linking recording audio to handwritten or typed notes: Notability app (possibly plus Apple pencil), OneNote on a PC or Mac, Luminant AudioNote , or others. - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net > On Nov 20, 2019, at 1:42 PM, Jay Wilson wrote: > > Hi Maria, > The large University where I work has both the Livescribe 3 and Echo models for demo. After describing, showing, and trying, I have not had any students choose the Livescribe 3 due to the need for phone connection and spotty wifi. > > I would recommend and have used the Echo for it's simplicity and reliability. Only the pen and notebook or printed paper are needed in order to take notes. It also removes concerns from instructors about a phone being out and in use. > > Jay Wilson, M.S.W. > Senior Access Consultant > Disability Resource Center - Student Access > UMN - Twin Cities > Pronouns : He/him/his > > > Check out the DRC Facebook page for updates, news, culture, and community. > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu ] On Behalf Of Maria Ortado > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 1:15 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: [Athen] Aegir Smart Pen > > > > I was reading some of the reviews for the Aegir Smart Pen and some people don't seem very happy with it. I see 2 main complaints: > > > > 1. The Aegir relies on the user's smart phone mic to record sound. If the phone goes to sleep, the recording stops. (If the phone stays on it drains the battery). Also if a phone call comes in to the phone, it interrupts the recording. > > > > 2. The phone and the pen must be in sync through the app and sometimes the app doesn't work or the 2 devices lose their sync. > > > > Does anyone use the Aegir model? If so, have your students experienced those issues? What is your favorite Smart Pen model? Any other insight you may have is greatly appreciated. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Maria Ortado > Interpreter Coordinator > Disability Support Services > Office: U216 > Cape Fear Community College > mortado@cfcc.edu > > Phone: (910) 362-7098 > Dial 7-1-1 for Telecommunications Relay Service > Fax: (910) 362-7113 > > > > > E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. 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Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of ATHEN President Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:22 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] ATHEN 2019 Annual Meeting Hello ATHEN Members, Late last week a message was sent for voting in the ATHEN elections. The poll closes on Wednesday, November 20 at 5:30PM (Mountain Time). We are voting for our Vice President, Treasurer and Member-at-Large positions. So far, only 25% of the ATHEN membership has voted and it only takes a few minutes to vote, so please VOTE!! ATHEN Annual Meeting All are welcome to attend the ATHEN Annual Meeting which will take place Wednesday, November 20 at 6:30 PM at the Westin Westminster Hotel. The ATHEN Meeting will be in Westminster Ballroom IV. Please submit any agenda items for the Annual Meeting. Per the ATHEN Bylaws, the general agenda is as follows: - Introductions - Ascertain the presence of a quorum - Financial report update - Reading/approval of the minutes of the previous meeting - Annual report of the preceding year's activities - Unfinished business and committee reports - Announcement of election results of the Executive Council - New business - Adjournment The minutes of the 2018 ATHEN Annual Meeting are available online for your review in advance of the meeting: https://athenpro.org/content/athen-2018-annual-meeting-minutes Please review the 2018 minutes in advance of the ATHEN Annual Meeting. I will see those who can attend on Wednesday, November 20 at 6:30 PM! Thank you, Dawn Hunziker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From help at nationaldeafcenter.org Fri Nov 22 11:35:04 2019 From: help at nationaldeafcenter.org (National Deaf Center) Date: Fri Nov 22 11:35:28 2019 Subject: [Athen] Live captioning theater and music events In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Greetings, T.M. The National Deaf Center (NDC) saw your question above, and we would like the opportunity to provide you with resources to ensure your shows are accessible for deaf participants. To ensure we provide you with the right resources, we do have a few questions: 1. We don?t see the word sustainable used to describe accommodations or access. Please tell us what you mean by this. 2. What is the goal or purpose of captions in languages other than English? 3. If the captions are intended for deaf* attendees, do you want the captions to be in the language of the show (for example, if the show has spoken French) or do you want the captions to show a translation of the spoken foreign language into English for all to understand? *Please note, NDC is using the term ?deaf? in an all-inclusive manner, to include people who may identify as deaf, deafblind, deafdisabled, hard of hearing, late-deafened, and hearing impaired.) We also have a listserv composed of colleges and universities across the U.S. who may have implemented live-captioning for shows. You can join the NDC listserv by signing up here . Then, you can post your message to nationaldeafcenter@utlists.utexas.edu. We hope to hear back from you soon. If you have any direct questions for us, please also feel free to contact us at help@nationaldeafcenter.org or by making an appointment via our NDC | on call service. This service is a virtual appointment with one of our experienced staff members to directly address your questions. If interested in making an appointment please visit our website at: nationaldeafcenter.org/on-call * NDC | help* Savio Chan, Lore Kinast, Dave Litman, & Stephanie Zito *help@nationaldeafcenter.org * [image: https://www.nationaldeafcenter.org/] NDC is a technical assistance and dissemination center jointly funded by the U.S. Department of Education's Office of Special Education Programs (OSEP) and the Rehabilitation Services Administration (RSA) #H326D160001. Disclaimer: the contents of this email do not necessarily represent the policies of the federal government. On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 4:01 PM Weissenberger, Todd M < todd-weissenberger@uiowa.edu> wrote: > Hello, > > > > Can anyone comment on a sustainable approach to live event captioning? We > have a couple of units that would like to start captioning live theater and > music performances. Some of these performances are in languages other than > English, and they may or may not have lyrics or scripts from which to adapt > captions. The music performances may include choral/chamber and operas. > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > > > Best, > > Todd > > > > *T.M. Weissenberger* > > IT Accessibility Coordinator > > Information Security and Policy Office > > University of Iowa > > 319-384-3323 > > > > he/him/his > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Looking for examples (Susie Dunn) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:38:53 +0000 From: Susie Dunn To: The EDUCAUSE IT Accessibility Community Group Listserv Cc: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Looking for examples Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My institution is looking to develop a webpage that will house information about our commitment to accessibility on our public website. As I envision it, among other things, there will be a link to contact someone if they find something inaccessible, information about who to contact if a user has other accessibility connected concerns and basic information about our various accessibility policies and/or procedures. The intended audience for this page is the general public. I am looking for examples of what others have done to get ideas on how to organize the page and content ideas so I don't overlook something important. I have already looked at numerous sites, but few have the general public as the intended audience. Most of the sites I've looked at seem to have the campus community as the intended audience for the information housed at the site. (I'm also going to propose a page for our intranet site, that has college staff as the audience for those policies, forms and practices of interest and application for our staff.) Can anyone suggest sites I should look at? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. Susie Susie Dunn Access/Equity/Diversity Specialist Southeast Community College 301 So. 68th St. Pl Lincoln, NE 68510-2449 402-323-3413; 402-323-3633 (fax) sdunn@southeast.edu www.southeast.edu Your reputation is more important than your paycheck, and your integrity is worth more than your career. 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Feed it html or a word document and all your lists, headings and print page numbers are already there; saves a lot of time. But for doing my own alternate media, I've been really frustrated. It doesn't have a Spanish grade 1 table and the Spanish table it does have is something called "Spanish U.S."whyich produces some grade 2 contractions with Spanish accents. Has anyone heard of this table; is it supposed to be the new way of doing Spanish braille? Is anyone else using BrailleBlaster and having similar problems doing foreign language transcribing? --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kelly.Hermann at phoenix.edu Mon Nov 25 10:36:11 2019 From: Kelly.Hermann at phoenix.edu (Kelly Hermann) Date: Mon Nov 25 10:36:39 2019 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility position at University of Phoenix Message-ID: Hi all, We are currently searching for a digital accessibility specialist to join our team in Phoenix, AZ. Please feel free to reach out if you have any questions. Digital Accessibility Specialist position description (https://uop.avature.net/internal/JobDetail/AD850-Digital-Accssblty-Spec/22441) Thanks, Kelly Kelly Hermann Vice President, Accessibility, Equity & Inclusion Section 504 Coordinator University of Phoenix 4025 S. Riverpoint Parkway, Phoenix, AZ 85040 Mail Stop: CF-K304 T. 602-387-9936 M. 480-749-5515 Kelly.Hermann@phoenix.edu [cid:image003.jpg@01D5A384.886FB350] phoenix.edu "This message is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify the sender immediately." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1453 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Mon Nov 25 22:05:39 2019 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Mon Nov 25 22:06:12 2019 Subject: [Athen] Fascinating article: Why tech needs more designers with disabilities Message-ID: I came across this article and want to share it with y?all (apologies for any cross-posts): My Fight With a Sidewalk Robot A life-threatening encounter with AI technology convinced me that the needs of people with disabilities need to be engineered into our autonomous future. https://www.citylab.com/perspective/2019/11/autonomous-technology-ai-robot-delivery-disability-rights/602209/ The writer, Emily Ackerman, is a chemical engineering Ph.D. student at the University of Pittsburgh who uses a power wheelchair. She described being trapped in the crosswalk on a busy street by an autonomous AI delivery robot which blocked the curbcut (waiting for the light to turn) ? a non-sentient being incapable of understanding the consequences of its actions. But Emily is also a disability advocate. She met with the company?s leadership teams, discussed what went wrong, and changes and improvements they could make to avoid problems in the future. Toward the end of the article, she makes this statement which is key (emphasis is mine): "Companies must practice accountability from their positions of power. The most critical step is increasing participation?not only by opening feedback channels with their users but also by hiring disabled engineers and programmers in all stages of the development process. Accessible design should not depend on the ability of an able-bodied design team to understand someone else?s experience or foresee problems that they?ve never had." As a fellow engineer, I wholeheartedly agree. And development of those disabled engineers and programmers will depend heavily on accessible STEM education, not only to level the academic playing field for such students, but to ensure that they aren?t unduly discouraged from pursuing STEM careers. My two cents for the evening? ;-) - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Tue Nov 26 09:19:36 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Tue Nov 26 09:20:03 2019 Subject: [Athen] iOS frustrations -- what are your thoughts? Message-ID: I always suggest to print-impaired students that reading things on their iPHONE or iPAD during their commute is a good use of time. But showing them how is a different matter entirely. I myself have found it terribly inconvenient to transfer common formats, MP3, html, rtf etc. to my phone. For example, if I save a file to one-drive, and then locate it in either the Files app or the one-drive native app, I often can't just start it "playing". I have to pick "share" and then I get what seems to be a random list of apps, some of which don't even open my file. For example, I had a web page that I wanted to read offline. I saved it to my hard disk, and made sure I could open the offline file in my browser. I then moved the HTML over to One-Drive. But later when I tried to open it, iOS wanted to run a podcasting app that didn't even show the HTML file. I'd like to tell iOS to make VoiceDream reader the default for epub and RTF files; I'd like safari to be the default for html and I'd like the native iOS audiobook player to be the default for MP3. If I pick an Mp3 off the web, the phone will start streaming it immediately. But if it's in cloud storage, that doesn't happen. If I save an MP3 in dropbox, I can play it by tapping on it, but if I save it in Google drive I cannot, in both cases using each cloud storage's native app. Even the "open in" list for each app is a bit different; is their no way I can standardize an "open in" list so that it is app-independent? And different disabilities will have different defaults they want to use for reading different file types. Yet, iOS seems to not always show on the share sheet everything that's available or even put them in order by which filetypes they handle best. As a Windows user, maybe there's just something basic I don't understand about the iOS paradigm. On my Windows PC, I can choose which app will open a file and it just happens after that. No sharing, no list of random apps that are unrelated. Thoughts? --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhayman at uw.edu Tue Nov 26 09:33:14 2019 From: dhayman at uw.edu (Doug Hayman) Date: Tue Nov 26 09:34:16 2019 Subject: [Athen] iOS frustrations -- what are your thoughts? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good points here. I find with my iPhone and iPad I tend to save my HTML articles like this Open article in Safari (including ones originally seen in Facebook) then pick the Reader view to strip out extraneous junk. I then save to Instapaper. And before I leave home on my long (2-hours each direction) commute, I open Instapaper so it downloads/updates articles (I do this on each device.) Then when commuting, I'll bring up an article in Instapaper then do the 2-finger gesture from top of the screen down to load that article in read mode. It does glitch out occasionally when it sees italicized words or other issues like reading a quote sign as "to the power of" but generally works well. I think with iOS 13 release you can now choose to see/hide your preferred "send to" menu choices per app making that process more streamlined. As for .mp3 files, perhaps saving those to iTunes in a favorites playlist would be a streamlined way to go? Doug On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 9:20 AM Deborah Armstrong wrote: > I always suggest to print-impaired students that reading things on their > iPHONE or iPAD during their commute is a good use of time. But showing them > how is a different matter entirely. > > > > I myself have found it terribly inconvenient to transfer common formats, > MP3, html, rtf etc. to my phone. For example, if I save a file to > one-drive, and then locate it in either the Files app or the one-drive > native app, I often can?t just start it ?playing?. I have to pick ?share? > and then I get what seems to be a random list of apps, some of which don?t > even open my file. > > > > For example, I had a web page that I wanted to read offline. I saved it to > my hard disk, and made sure I could open the offline file in my browser. I > then moved the HTML over to One-Drive. But later when I tried to open it, > iOS wanted to run a podcasting app that didn?t even show the HTML file. > > > > I?d like to tell iOS to make VoiceDream reader the default for epub and > RTF files; I?d like safari to be the default for html and I?d like the > native iOS audiobook player to be the default for MP3. > > > > If I pick an Mp3 off the web, the phone will start streaming it > immediately. But if it?s in cloud storage, that doesn?t happen. If I save > an MP3 in dropbox, I can play it by tapping on it, but if I save it in > Google drive I cannot, in both cases using each cloud storage?s native > app. Even the ?open in? list for each app is a bit different; is their no > way I can standardize an ?open in? list so that it is app-independent? > > > > And different disabilities will have different defaults they want to use > for reading different file types. Yet, iOS seems to not always show on the > share sheet everything that?s available or even put them in order by which > filetypes they handle best. > > > > As a Windows user, maybe there?s just something basic I don?t understand > about the iOS paradigm. On my Windows PC, I can choose which app will open > a file and it just happens after that. No sharing, no list of random apps > that are unrelated. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > --Debee > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Doug Hayman w.edu> Senior Computer Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Tue Nov 26 10:44:34 2019 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Tue Nov 26 10:45:13 2019 Subject: [Athen] iOS frustrations -- what are your thoughts? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Debee, you are correct in that the paradigm is much different with a mobile device. iOS uses a sandboxed approach, where they dictate specifically which apps will open which files. A lot of this is to do with the fact that they want you to use their default apps, but also the more control that is given to the user, the more likely something is to break, or the more likely there will be a security issue. The security of a mobile device is much more involved since it's always moving, always prone to theft, hacking, etc, so Apple has elected a more locked-down approach. This issue of not knowing in which app a file will open, plus the unintuitive methods for navigating and editing documents is why I could never use an iOS device as my primary device, or even as a laptop replacement. A PC-based solution wins hands down every time. Android is much more open in that regards, but it has its own host of issues which would take up an entire different thread. On the bright side, however, iOS is becoming more open - slowly, but surely. If you needed to do some reading on the go, however, iOS is great for that. I would purchase an app such as VoiceDream Reader, which reads many different file types as well as keeps your reading location. I would then choose one file format that I know works well, such as PDF, and convert all of my readings to that format prior to traveling. You would then have to determine how to get the files to your device; VoiceDream allows you to open the file browser from within the app, or to connect to your Dropbox and Google accounts. A bluetooth keyboard and the Notes app would be sufficient for writing things down from the readings. I know people want more portable solutions, and ones with longer battery life,. Unfortunately, however, I have not found any mobile device to be as intuitive and bug-free as a PC-based solution with a screen reader. The last time I even tried to read a conference agenda in Word format using my phone, the focus jumped all over the place and I just gave up. My phone is great for reading things, taking notes, keeping up with finances, communicating, etc, but not for productivity tasks such as word processing or studying. Robert On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 12:23 PM Deborah Armstrong < armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu> wrote: > I always suggest to print-impaired students that reading things on their > iPHONE or iPAD during their commute is a good use of time. But showing them > how is a different matter entirely. > > > > I myself have found it terribly inconvenient to transfer common formats, > MP3, html, rtf etc. to my phone. For example, if I save a file to > one-drive, and then locate it in either the Files app or the one-drive > native app, I often can?t just start it ?playing?. I have to pick ?share? > and then I get what seems to be a random list of apps, some of which don?t > even open my file. > > > > For example, I had a web page that I wanted to read offline. I saved it to > my hard disk, and made sure I could open the offline file in my browser. I > then moved the HTML over to One-Drive. But later when I tried to open it, > iOS wanted to run a podcasting app that didn?t even show the HTML file. > > > > I?d like to tell iOS to make VoiceDream reader the default for epub and > RTF files; I?d like safari to be the default for html and I?d like the > native iOS audiobook player to be the default for MP3. > > > > If I pick an Mp3 off the web, the phone will start streaming it > immediately. But if it?s in cloud storage, that doesn?t happen. If I save > an MP3 in dropbox, I can play it by tapping on it, but if I save it in > Google drive I cannot, in both cases using each cloud storage?s native > app. Even the ?open in? list for each app is a bit different; is their no > way I can standardize an ?open in? list so that it is app-independent? > > > > And different disabilities will have different defaults they want to use > for reading different file types. Yet, iOS seems to not always show on the > share sheet everything that?s available or even put them in order by which > filetypes they handle best. > > > > As a Windows user, maybe there?s just something basic I don?t understand > about the iOS paradigm. On my Windows PC, I can choose which app will open > a file and it just happens after that. No sharing, no list of random apps > that are unrelated. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > --Debee > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lissner.2 at osu.edu Wed Nov 27 15:08:38 2019 From: lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, Scott) Date: Wed Nov 27 15:29:57 2019 Subject: [Athen] Harvard Captioning Consent Decree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45B6F28F-30B3-498E-883B-9C6F5D23E02B@osu.edu> Harvard Captioning Consent Decree ?The settlement expands upon Harvard?s new digital accessibility policy, which was announced in May. Harvard must provide captions for all online resources, including school-wide events that are live-streamed, content from department sponsored student organizations and any new audio or video hosted by third-party platforms such as YouTube, Vimeo, and SoundCloud.? Harvard consent decree https://creeclaw.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/NAD-v-Harvard-Consent-Decree.pdf?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=4cc687f3-ea3a-47c4-935f-19d1e5b56216 NAD Press Release https://www.nad.org/2019/11/27/national-association-of-the-deaf-announces-landmark-settlement-with-harvard-to-improve-online-accessibility/ CREEC Press Release https://creeclaw.org/national-association-of-the-deaf-announces-landmark-settlement-with-harvard-to-improve-online-accessibility/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=4cc687f3-ea3a-47c4-935f-19d1e5b56216 April 6-7, 2020 The Twentieth Annual Multiple Perspectives Conference https://ada.osu.edu/multiple-perspectives-conference/20th-annual-conference [https://default.salsalabs.org/X4cc687f3-ea3a-47c4-935f-19d1e5b56216/d76359c4-4e64-47fe-ae2a-d3d1e4ab7738] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: