From krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com Tue Oct 1 08:19:21 2019 From: krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com (Krista Greear) Date: Tue Oct 1 08:19:47 2019 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: MathType for macOS Catalina: a brief update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Important update for those using MathType on Apple - if you update to macOS Catalina, MathType will not work yet. Consider delaying updating the OS if MathType is important for your use. Krista -- Krista Greear Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader ATHEN Executive Council Vice President Access Technology Higher Education Network ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: WIRIS Date: Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 8:05 AM Subject: MathType for macOS Catalina: a brief update Important information about your MathType software To view this email as a web page, go here. [image: WIRIS Makers of MathType] [image: MathType, the equation editor by WIRIS] *MathType product notification* Hello, As you well know, Apple is releasing macOS Catalina sometime in October. Among other features, it will only support 64-bit apps. MathType 7.x and previous versions were developed for 32-bit, so they will stop running in your computer when you update your operating system. *MathType for Catalina* To this day, we are still working on the development of our interim MathType for Catalina version. We regret to inform you that this version will not be ready before the release of macOS Catalina or immediately thereafter. We will keep you informed of the progress of this version promptly via e-mail. *What can you do in the meantime?* If you want to keep using MathType, we ask you not to update to macOS Catalina until we release our MathType Catalina version. 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URL: From adwershing at pstcc.edu Tue Oct 1 13:31:55 2019 From: adwershing at pstcc.edu (Wershing, Alice D.) Date: Tue Oct 1 13:32:04 2019 Subject: [Athen] [External] Touchscreen projection capability In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Bryon, What is it you are looking for? There are cctv's that can attach to a laptop that have controls that voice. They can screen capture from long distance in addition to serving as magnification devices to a computer screen. We have an older version of something that is no longer being made called the ebot, where it can use the computer screen to enlarge materials and also swivels to capture and enlarge from a board. It has a joystick that also has voice directed software. This might be the type of device you are looking for, but I'm not sure. I think that enhancedvision has some models, and HIMS is the manufacturer that I worked with for the ebot. Alice Wershing Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist Pellissippi State Community College 865-694-6751 865-539-7699 (fax) East TN Region Accessibility Specialist Tenessee Board of Regents-TN eCampus PSCC Access for All Blog PSCC Accessible Format Facebook Page (PSCC-Disability Services) PSCC Access4All Twitter Feed (@Access4allPSCC) From: athen-list On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 4:24 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: [External] [Athen] Touchscreen projection capability CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi all, Is there such a product available that is a projection touch screen system? I envision using such a system with a student who has some vision loss. Thanks for any suggestions or recommendations. Bryon Bryon Kluesner RhD, ATACP Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 Member of Division of Enrollment Management and Student Affairs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu Tue Oct 1 14:22:52 2019 From: Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu (Kluesner, Bryon) Date: Tue Oct 1 14:23:06 2019 Subject: [Athen] [External] Touchscreen projection capability In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Alice, The student has difficulty with an online class with her small Lenovo Think Pad. The MY IT Lab software will not let her enlarge her screen and she has to toggle between screens. Our Engineering dept. has a tutor working with her and they have a large screen touch screen display that has worked well for the student. She doesn't need any voice output. I have reached out to the Engineering dept. for the specs of the system they are using. For the time being, I have a projector I can hook up to the laptop and project the computer image on a white wall, but it doesn't have touch screen capability. It may work for a quick fix. I appreciate the response and hope all is well in east Tennessee. Bryon Bryon Kluesner RhD, ATACP Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 Member of Division of Enrollment Management and Student Affairs From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wershing, Alice D. Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 4:32 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: Re: [Athen] [External] Touchscreen projection capability Hi Bryon, What is it you are looking for? There are cctv's that can attach to a laptop that have controls that voice. They can screen capture from long distance in addition to serving as magnification devices to a computer screen. We have an older version of something that is no longer being made called the ebot, where it can use the computer screen to enlarge materials and also swivels to capture and enlarge from a board. It has a joystick that also has voice directed software. This might be the type of device you are looking for, but I'm not sure. I think that enhancedvision has some models, and HIMS is the manufacturer that I worked with for the ebot. Alice Wershing Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist Pellissippi State Community College 865-694-6751 865-539-7699 (fax) East TN Region Accessibility Specialist Tenessee Board of Regents-TN eCampus PSCC Access for All Blog PSCC Accessible Format Facebook Page (PSCC-Disability Services) PSCC Access4All Twitter Feed (@Access4allPSCC) From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 4:24 PM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [External] [Athen] Touchscreen projection capability CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi all, Is there such a product available that is a projection touch screen system? I envision using such a system with a student who has some vision loss. Thanks for any suggestions or recommendations. 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Most companies I work with now need or are trying to work toward conformance with WCAG 2.1 AA, but conforming first to WCAG 2.0 AA helps make that a lot easier and ensures at least some level of accessibility. Thankx, Joe Humbert Accessibility Advocate From: athen-list On Behalf Of Million, Carrie Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 6:51 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] WCAG 2.0 versus 2.1 Possible dumb question: If a software passes WCAG 2.0 AA, but NOT WCAG 2.1 AA per their VPAT, is it still considered in compliance? Thanks, Carrie Million Assistive Technology Specialist DSS Department Chair DSS Tutoring Coordinator 321 Golf Club Road, Pleasant Hill, CA 94523 925-969-2186 Sorenson VRS 925-270-1660 cmillion@dvc.edu www.dvc.edu/onlineaccessibility -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 10466 bytes Desc: not available URL: From skeegan at ccctechcenter.org Wed Oct 2 18:04:25 2019 From: skeegan at ccctechcenter.org (Sean Keegan) Date: Wed Oct 2 18:05:14 2019 Subject: [Athen] WCAG 2.0 versus 2.1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Carrie, A very good question - in California, we have a state law that reference the accessibility requirements of the Section 508 standards (CA Government Code 7405) for state entities. Additionally, the CCC Chancellor's Office issued an information and communication technology and instructional materials accessibility standard last year specific that recommends colleges and districts follow the 508 Standards. You can find more information about both CA Government Code 7405 and the CCC Accessibility Standard at the following links. CA Government Code 7405: http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=GOV§ionNum=7405 CCC Information and Communication Technology and Instructional Material Accessibility Standard: https://cccaccessibility.org/campus-plan/policy-standards-faqs If you have a software application that passes WCAG 2.0, Level A/AA, then you would be following the state level requirements. That said, there could still be a potential accessibility issue and so it would be the responsibility of the institution to ensure that the individual with a disability could still participate and engage in the same services made available through the software application. In short, with an accessible application, it is much less likely that there will be accessibility barriers, but there could be a situation in which a person with a disability is still not able to participate. One solution may be to engage with the college's ADA/Section 504 coordinator (or, if an enrolled student, DSPS) to determine an acceptable alternative. To Joe's most excellent point - I would not rely on a vendor's VPAT alone, albeit with some exceptions, to determine if a product conforms to the WCAG 2.x accessibility standards. If the product in question has been evaluated by a reputable third-party accessibility vendor, the review is recent, AND covers the same product functionality that you would be using, then I would be much more likely to give greater credence to that VPAT. I would not rely on a product evaluated by a vendor alone as to how it conforms to the WCAG 2.x accessibility or Software standards in a VPAT. A note about WCAG 2.x - WCAG 2.1 is the most recent version. If there is credible evidence that the product is meeting the WCAG 2.1 standards, then that would also mean it passes WCAG 2.0. Good question. Take care, Sean On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 3:52 PM Million, Carrie wrote: > Possible dumb question: > > If a software passes WCAG 2.0 AA, but *NOT *WCAG *2.1* AA per their VPAT, > is it still considered in compliance? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > *Carrie Million* > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > DSS Department Chair > > DSS Tutoring Coordinator > > > > [image: cid:image001.png@01D15DD5.2A7F0640] > > 321 Golf Club Road, Pleasant Hill, CA 94523 > > 925-969-2186 > > Sorenson VRS 925-270-1660 > > cmillion@dvc.edu > > www.dvc.edu/onlineaccessibility > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Melissa Green (she/her/hers) Technology Accessibility Specialist Center for Instructional Technology/Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama A204C Gordon Palmer Hall Box 870346 Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 Phone 205-348-8548 mfgreen1@ua.edu | http://accessibility.ua.edu [University of Alabama] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 6054 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From sherylb at uw.edu Fri Oct 4 08:32:04 2019 From: sherylb at uw.edu (Sheryl E. Burgstahler) Date: Fri Oct 4 08:32:39 2019 Subject: [Athen] Cyberlearning exemplars of best practice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1BACF85C-9CF7-4F50-8E21-48E30E9C97D6@uw.edu> I expect some of the members of this list might be able to provide some guidance to Cliff Shaffer (see message below). You can respond to the ATHEN list or to shaffer@vt.edu . Thanks. Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu > On Oct 3, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Cliff Shaffer wrote: > > Sheryl -- Thank you for meeting with me today at the conference! Following up on our conversation, I am looking for some exemplars of best practice for making educational content accessible. In particular, I am looking for exemplars that are demanding technically. Here, "technical" has two distinct meanings: > > 1) Non-standard accessibility implementation. Meaning, more than standard screen-reading support for HTML prose, alternate captions for static images, and transcript captioning of talking-head videos. > > 2) Technical educational content, especially content that is heavy on mathematics displays, and ideally with sophisticated visual presentations of key concepts. So, content that aims to teach math, statistics, various engineering topics, or mathematically-oriented science. Especially if it seeks to be visually oriented rather than text/verbally oriented in its presentation. > > I run the OpenDSA project (opendsa.org ), and we are starting to think about accessibility issues for our content. This material is presented as HTML pages, with lots of code displays, slideshows of step-by-step dynamic process, and interactive exercises. With some amount of mathematical equations scattered throughout. So we are looking to see real examples of what might be possible to achieve. > > Thanks for any pointers that you can give! > -- Cliff > > > -- > Cliff Shaffer > Professor and Associate Department Head for Graduate Studies > Department of Computer Science Phone: (540) 231-4354 > Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA 24061 WWW: www.cs.vt.edu/~shaffer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We are currently looking at moving to Canvas for our LMS and I would love to hear from folks that are already using Canvas about how accessible it is and any pitfalls that we should be aware of? Any recommendations on workarounds for problems would also be appreciated... Thank you so much - I so appreciate having you all as a resource! H. *Heather Mariger* *Digital Accessibility Advocate* *Center for Academic Innovation* *Chemeketa Community College* *4000 Lancaster Drive NE - 9/126A* *Salem, OR 97305* 503.589.7832 ***************** *Diversity is being invited to the party; inclusion is being asked to dance. * Verna Myers, author and speaker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Back of the brochure --Bevi Chagnon - - - Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO | Bevi@PubCom.com - - - PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting . training . development . design . sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes - - - Latest blog-newsletter - Accessibility Tips at www.PubCom.com/blog From: athen-list On Behalf Of Nguyen, Van Thi Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 8:01 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Tri-fold Brochure PDF Hello all, Has anyone made a tri-fold brochure PDF accessible? Any suggestions on how to organize the reading order in a way where the screen reader can alternate pages in order to replicate how we would read a printed trifold brochure? Thank you for your help. Van Nguyen Universal Design Center | Information Technology California State University, Northridge van.nguyen@csun.edu | 818-435-7383 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com Mon Oct 7 09:40:39 2019 From: krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com (Krista Greear) Date: Mon Oct 7 09:40:56 2019 Subject: [Athen] Axessibility: a LaTeX Package for Mathematical Formulae Accessibility in PDF Documents Message-ID: Axessibility: a LaTeX Package for Mathematical Formulae Accessibility in PDF Documents *Abstract* PDF documents containing formulae generated by LATEX are usually not accessible by assistive technologies for visually impaired people (i.e., by screen readers and braille displays). The package manages this issue, allowing to create a PDF document where the formulae are read by these assistive technologies, since it automatically generates hidden comments in the PDF document (by means of the /ActualText attribute) in correspondence to each formula. The package does not generate PDF/UA. ~~~~~ Has anyone heard or used this resource yet? 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URL: From lissner.2 at osu.edu Mon Oct 7 09:45:37 2019 From: lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, Scott) Date: Mon Oct 7 09:46:15 2019 Subject: [Athen] =?utf-8?q?Domino=E2=80=99s_loses_in_lawsuit_over_website_?= =?utf-8?q?accessibility_=7C_athNation=27s_Restaurant_News?= Message-ID: <5264AF1C-4262-4EF1-B815-FEE2BE66AEE3@osu.edu> https://www.nrn.com/news/supreme-court-hands-win-blind-man-who-sued-domino-s-over-website-accessibility?NL=NRN-01a&Issue=NRN-01a_20191007_NRN-01a_857&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_1_b&utm_rid=CPG06000000059707&utm_campaign=33738&utm_medium=email&elq2=a48dd89435d64bc0b51f486bee637dc2 Supreme Court hands win to blind man who sued Domino?s over website accessibility Court denies the petition filed by the pizza chain, upholding the lower court ruling Joanna Fantozzi | Oct 07, 2019 The Supreme Court has denied a petition from Domino?s Pizza Inc. following a decision by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals that ruled in favor of a blind man named Guillermo Robles who sued the chain when he was unable to order pizza off the Domino?s website or mobile app even with screen reading technology. The Supreme Court decision will leave the original ruling in place, which maintained that the company must make its website and mobile app accessible under the 1990 Americans with Disabilities Act. The case was originally filed in September 2016 in the Central District of California as Robles v. Domino?s Pizza LLC. After a March 2017 decision by a district judge initially dismissed the lawsuit stating that it ?would violate Domino?s due process rights? because the Department of Justice had ?failed to provide helpful guidance,? the lawsuit went to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Related: Opinion: Restaurateurs, Don?t roll over yet In a January 2019 decision, the Court of Appeals reversed the initial ruling in a unanimous decision, stating that, although ADA compliance generally applies to ?places of public accommodation,? the act never actually states that that ADA compliance must occur ?in a place of public accommodation.? ?The panel stated that the website and app connected customers to the goods and services of Domino?s physical restaurants,? the Ninth Circuit decision stated. ?To limit the ADA to discrimination in the provision of services occurring on the premises of a public accommodation would contradict the plain language of the statute.? Related: House approves ADA amendment to protect businesses The Court of Appeals also ruled that the compliance mandate did not violate the company?s Fourteenth Amendment rights to due process because the company had been given adequate time to comply and that ?the ADA articulates comprehensible standards? to which companies have to conform in order to be in compliance with federal law. The court also ruled that ?lack of specific regulations? as outlined in the ADA does not exempt Domino?s from following the law. Following the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruling, Domino?s pled their case with the Supreme Court. By denying their petition on Monday, the Supreme Court upholds the Court of Appeals decision. In 2018, over 2,200 lawsuits have been filed over website accessibility, a 181% increase from the year before, according to data from digital accessibility-focused technology company Usable Net, with the food service industry being one of the top industries named in litigation. Contact Joanna Fantozzi at joanna.fantozzi@knect365.com Follow her on Twitter: @joannafantozzi L. Scott Lissner, The Ohio State University ADA Coordinator and 504 Compliance Officer Associate, John Glenn School of Public Affairs Lecturer, Knowlton School of Architecture, Moritz College of Law & Disability Studies (614) 292-6207(v); (614) 688-8605(tty) (614) 688-3665(fax); Http://ada.osu.edu 21 East 11th Ave., Columbus, Ohio. 43210 April 6-7, 2020 The Twentieth Annual Multiple Perspectives Conference https://ada.osu.edu/multiple-perspectives-conference/20th-annual-conference -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Joseph.Sherman at cuny.edu Mon Oct 7 09:50:54 2019 From: Joseph.Sherman at cuny.edu (Joseph Sherman) Date: Mon Oct 7 09:51:42 2019 Subject: [Athen] Laying out PDF forms in Word without Tables Message-ID: Hi all. I am looking for a way to lay out Forms in Word without using tables. We have hundreds of PDF Forms that are all laid out using tables, like the attached. I know that using tables for layout is bad practice, but I am having a hard time finding another way to lay out forms in Word that looks as nice in PDF. Using InDesign is not an option. I have made an attempt to duplicate the layout without Tables in the second attached file, but it does not look as nice or clean. How do you lay out complex Forms without using tables? Thanks. Joseph -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: CS_SF_ItemType-Access-Request_v1-2-1.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 42669 bytes Desc: CS_SF_ItemType-Access-Request_v1-2-1.docx URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This would allow you to have headings for the different sections and, for the areas requiring signatures, use the ability in Acrobat to add a thin black outline to the form control which then will show up if the form is printed without having the underline get in the way. Can I use this in my class with a before and after look? I'm always looking for forms that I can talk design about for my students. That was the financial form. The second form has things called rectangle 5, grouped object but I don't see anything. There is also a Text Box 29.yikes! 29 text boxes? This is in the second document. The second document can be done the same way once all the text boxes, grouped objects and rectangles are removed. Can I use this one too!? Cheers, Karen. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Joseph Sherman Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 12:51 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Laying out PDF forms in Word without Tables Hi all. I am looking for a way to lay out Forms in Word without using tables. We have hundreds of PDF Forms that are all laid out using tables, like the attached. I know that using tables for layout is bad practice, but I am having a hard time finding another way to lay out forms in Word that looks as nice in PDF. Using InDesign is not an option. I have made an attempt to duplicate the layout without Tables in the second attached file, but it does not look as nice or clean. How do you lay out complex Forms without using tables? Thanks. Joseph -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Mon Oct 7 11:03:44 2019 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Mon Oct 7 11:04:02 2019 Subject: [Athen] inaccessible websites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007b01d57d39$8fe64b60$afb2e220$@karlencommunications.com> Since Dominos just lost the accessibility lawsuit, that might be a good one? Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of Leyna Bencomo Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 1:20 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] inaccessible websites Does anybody have a good example of a website that is obviously inaccessible for JAWS? I'm also looking for an example of a form that is poorly designed for someone who needs magnification. Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 (Kraemer Family Library) Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I?m also looking for an example of a form that is > poorly designed for someone who needs magnification. > > > > > > > > *Leyna Bencomo * > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Office of Information Technology > > University of Colorado Colorado Springs > > 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, *EPC 215* > > *(Kraemer Family Library)* > > Colorado Springs, CO 80918 > > (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu > > http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ > > [image: sig logo small] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Tonu Mikk Adaptive Technologist | Disability Resource Center | disability.umn.edu University of Minnesota | umn.edu tmikk@umn.edu | 612-625-3307 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail From: athen-list On Behalf Of Leyna Bencomo Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 1:20 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] inaccessible websites Does anybody have a good example of a website that is obviously inaccessible for JAWS? I'm also looking for an example of a form that is poorly designed for someone who needs magnification. Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 (Kraemer Family Library) Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It uses the information from the real National Weather Service, which is a division of NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), a US federal agency that operates the weather satellites and distributes the data and their forecast information around the globe. So weather dot com is the private company that does this website https://weather. com/ it has ads and is not responsible for its accuracy, timeliness of data, or accessibility. And weather dot gov is the US government's National Weather Service http://www.weather. gov that can't have ads and is responsible to use US citizens. Don't confuse the two. - - - Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO | Bevi@PubCom.com - - - PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting . training . development . design . sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes - - - Latest blog-newsletter - Accessibility Tips at www.PubCom.com/blog From: athen-list On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 2:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] inaccessible websites I often use https://weather.com as a webpage to expose my audience to learning how to conduct their own manual accessibility tests. Graphics are rarely labeled, and form fields are often mislabeled. Sometimes, heading levels are definitely out of logical order. We can always find room to complain about the weather, so why not beat up on the National Weather website??? Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Leyna Bencomo Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 1:20 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] inaccessible websites Does anybody have a good example of a website that is obviously inaccessible for JAWS? I'm also looking for an example of a form that is poorly designed for someone who needs magnification. Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 (Kraemer Family Library) Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image006.png Type: image/png Size: 15239 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 14211 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail From: chagnon@pubcom.com Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 2:40 PM To: llewis@paciellogroup.com; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] inaccessible websites Wait wait, Weather.com is NOT the "national weather" website. It's operated by a private company that also has The Weather Channel. It uses the information from the real National Weather Service, which is a division of NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), a US federal agency that operates the weather satellites and distributes the data and their forecast information around the globe. So weather dot com is the private company that does this website https://weather. com/ it has ads and is not responsible for its accuracy, timeliness of data, or accessibility. And weather dot gov is the US government's National Weather Service http://www.weather. gov that can't have ads and is responsible to use US citizens. Don't confuse the two. - - - Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO | Bevi@PubCom.com - - - PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting . training . development . design . sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/ classes - - - Latest blog-newsletter - Accessibility Tips at www.PubCom.com/blog From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 2:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] inaccessible websites I often use https://weather.com as a webpage to expose my audience to learning how to conduct their own manual accessibility tests. Graphics are rarely labeled, and form fields are often mislabeled. Sometimes, heading levels are definitely out of logical order. We can always find room to complain about the weather, so why not beat up on the National Weather website??? Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Leyna Bencomo Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 1:20 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] inaccessible websites Does anybody have a good example of a website that is obviously inaccessible for JAWS? I'm also looking for an example of a form that is poorly designed for someone who needs magnification. Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 (Kraemer Family Library) Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image012.png Type: image/png Size: 15239 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 14150 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4630 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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[The Paciello Group logo] Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail [Lewis Signature] From: chagnon@pubcom.com > Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 2:40 PM To: llewis@paciellogroup.com; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: RE: [Athen] inaccessible websites Wait wait, Weather.com is NOT the "national weather" website. It's operated by a private company that also has The Weather Channel. It uses the information from the real National Weather Service, which is a division of NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), a US federal agency that operates the weather satellites and distributes the data and their forecast information around the globe. So weather dot com is the private company that does this website https://weather.com/ it has ads and is not responsible for its accuracy, timeliness of data, or accessibility. And weather dot gov is the US government's National Weather Service http://www.weather.gov that can't have ads and is responsible to use US citizens. Don't confuse the two. - - - Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO | Bevi@PubCom.com - - - PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting * training * development * design * sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes - - - Latest blog-newsletter - Accessibility Tips at www.PubCom.com/blog From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 2:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] inaccessible websites I often use https://weather.com as a webpage to expose my audience to learning how to conduct their own manual accessibility tests. Graphics are rarely labeled, and form fields are often mislabeled. Sometimes, heading levels are definitely out of logical order. We can always find room to complain about the weather, so why not beat up on the National Weather website??? [The Paciello Group logo] Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail [Lewis Signature] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Leyna Bencomo Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 1:20 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] inaccessible websites Does anybody have a good example of a website that is obviously inaccessible for JAWS? I'm also looking for an example of a form that is poorly designed for someone who needs magnification. Leyna Bencomo Assistive Technology Specialist Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Colorado Springs 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215 (Kraemer Family Library) Colorado Springs, CO 80918 (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ [sig logo small] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image008.png Type: image/png Size: 15239 bytes Desc: image008.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 7351 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2846 bytes Desc: image005.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT *she, her, hers* Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Mon Oct 7 18:04:06 2019 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Mon Oct 7 18:05:09 2019 Subject: [Athen] inaccessible websites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Did you get what you needed, Leyna? Need info on NVDA still? Need a contact at their home office? LMK Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 10:20 AM Leyna Bencomo wrote: > Does anybody have a good example of a website that is obviously > inaccessible for JAWS? I?m also looking for an example of a form that is > poorly designed for someone who needs magnification. > > > > > > > > *Leyna Bencomo * > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Office of Information Technology > > University of Colorado Colorado Springs > > 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, *EPC 215* > > *(Kraemer Family Library)* > > Colorado Springs, CO 80918 > > (719) 255-4202 / lbencomo@uccs.edu > > http://www.uccs.edu/~it/ > > [image: sig logo small] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission From: athen-list On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 5:47 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] What's your favorite ePub app? Hello all! We have a student who likes using ePubs and has been using them in MS Edge. She's asking about ePub apps. So I'm turning to the best resource around to find out what favorite ePub apps that have the TTS function you suggest to students. Many thanks for any thoughts! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Tue Oct 8 05:50:58 2019 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Tue Oct 8 05:51:23 2019 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] What's your favorite ePub app? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If she is using an Apple device, Books does well with epubs. Also, if she is using an Android or Apple mobile device, Voice Dream Reader has been a big hit with my students. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 5:47 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT][Athen] What's your favorite ePub app? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hello all! We have a student who likes using ePubs and has been using them in MS Edge. She's asking about ePub apps. So I'm turning to the best resource around to find out what favorite ePub apps that have the TTS function you suggest to students. Many thanks for any thoughts! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From todd.schwanke at wisc.edu Tue Oct 8 08:38:16 2019 From: todd.schwanke at wisc.edu (Todd Schwanke) Date: Tue Oct 8 08:43:08 2019 Subject: [Athen] Tri-fold Brochure PDF In-Reply-To: <00cc01d57b2d$f25c55e0$d71501a0$@pubcom.com> References: <00cc01d57b2d$f25c55e0$d71501a0$@pubcom.com> Message-ID: Hi Van Nguyen You can also check out this document. It is based on a previous version of InDesign, so there may be points where you need to adapt a little bit. http://access-ed.r2d2.uwm.edu/resources/Tri-fold_Brochure_2010-8-13.pdf The intent here is to be able to use one file for both printing and the accessible/screen copy, rather than having to update 2 files. The other benefit of these instructions is being able to visually read/review a brochure on a screen in a logical panel order. One limitation though is when there are backgrounds/images that cross multiple pages. Todd Schwanke UW-Madison From: athen-list On Behalf Of chagnon@pubcom.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2019 10:36 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Tri-fold Brochure PDF Have your designer use Adobe InDesign for this type of publication because it has the tools to sequence the text & tags in a logical reading order. The designer should set up the layout to be made up of 3 individual pages per side. That is, 2 spreads of 3 pages melded together. This will allow the PDF to be viewed in the logical order we read a printed version. The reading order should be: 1. Front cover 2. Inside flap 3. Inside 3-pages/panels 4. Back of the brochure --Bevi Chagnon - - - Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO | Bevi@PubCom.com - - - PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting * training * development * design * sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes - - - Latest blog-newsletter - Accessibility Tips at www.PubCom.com/blog From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Nguyen, Van Thi Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 8:01 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Tri-fold Brochure PDF Hello all, Has anyone made a tri-fold brochure PDF accessible? Any suggestions on how to organize the reading order in a way where the screen reader can alternate pages in order to replicate how we would read a printed trifold brochure? Thank you for your help. Van Nguyen Universal Design Center | Information Technology California State University, Northridge van.nguyen@csun.edu | 818-435-7383 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Tue Oct 8 16:30:31 2019 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Tue Oct 8 16:31:04 2019 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of Microsoft Math Add-In for Word In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, I?m interested in this as well ? please share any info with the list. Thanks! Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@email.arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 3:29 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of Microsoft Math Add-In for Word What's the scoop on the "new" accessibility features of MS Office? Has equation editor bitten the dust? Does the "new" Math Add-in for Word meet screen reader (math ml) standards? Inquiring minds (besides mine) want to know. Thanks in advance for your collective input. 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Dawn ? ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@email.arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 ? From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 3:29 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of Microsoft Math Add-In for Word ? What's the scoop on the "new" accessibility features of MS Office? Has equation editor bitten the dust? Does the "new" Math Add-in for Word meet screen reader (math ml) standards? ? Inquiring minds (besides mine) want to know.? Thanks in advance for your collective input. ? Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Wed Oct 9 06:30:28 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Wed Oct 9 06:30:46 2019 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of Microsoft Math Add-In for Word In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No, it doesn?t. No one is doing math accessibility on operating systems. I wish they would. It would make our lives so much easier. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wink Harner Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 4:29 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Accessibility of Microsoft Math Add-In for Word What's the scoop on the "new" accessibility features of MS Office? Has equation editor bitten the dust? Does the "new" Math Add-in for Word meet screen reader (math ml) standards? Inquiring minds (besides mine) want to know. Thanks in advance for your collective input. 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It would make our lives so much easier. > > > > *Susan Kelmer* > > *Alternate Format Production Program Manager* > > *Disability Services* > > *University of Colorado Boulder* > > *303-735-4836* > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Wink Harner > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2019 4:29 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] Accessibility of Microsoft Math Add-In for Word > > > > What's the scoop on the "new" accessibility features of MS Office? Has > equation editor bitten the dust? Does the "new" Math Add-in for Word meet > screen reader (math ml) standards? > > > > Inquiring minds (besides mine) want to know. > > Thanks in advance for your collective input. > > > > Wink Harner > > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > > The Foreign Type > > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu Wed Oct 9 17:36:38 2019 From: Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu (Kluesner, Bryon) Date: Wed Oct 9 17:37:17 2019 Subject: [Athen] Accessing Higher Ground Conference Message-ID: Hope to see / meet many of you at this year's AHG conference. If you are planning to attend, please note that the conference link for transportation is not correct regarding Super Shuttle service. I attempted to schedule a shuttle to and from the hotel and was informed that Super Shuttle is no longer available between the Denver airport and the Westin in Westminster. Please plan accordingly. Guess I'll Uber for the 1st time. 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I attempted to schedule a shuttle to and from the hotel and was informed that Super Shuttle is no longer available between the Denver airport and the Westin in Westminster. Please plan accordingly. Guess I'll Uber for the 1st time. Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center Adjunct Professor College of Health, Education & Professional Studies University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 103 Frist Hall Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Thu Oct 10 07:19:31 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Thu Oct 10 07:19:54 2019 Subject: [Athen] Accessing Higher Ground Conference In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll let Howard know, because SuperShuttle left Denver two years ago. Look up a company called Green Ride, they took over the SuperShuttle service area. Their rates are decent, for most things. I've used them and like them (I live in Colorado so I've used it to get to the airport to get out of town, rather than come TO town. :) Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 6:37 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Accessing Higher Ground Conference Hope to see / meet many of you at this year's AHG conference. If you are planning to attend, please note that the conference link for transportation is not correct regarding Super Shuttle service. I attempted to schedule a shuttle to and from the hotel and was informed that Super Shuttle is no longer available between the Denver airport and the Westin in Westminster. Please plan accordingly. Guess I'll Uber for the 1st time. 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In looking at this section of the AHG web site you can see the info where it mentions light rail and it only costs $10.50. https://accessinghigherground.org/lodging-and-transportation/ Here is a link to accessible transport in the area: https://www.rtd-denver.com/services/access-a-ride On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:38 PM Kluesner, Bryon wrote: > Hope to see / meet many of you at this year's AHG conference. > > If you are planning to attend, please note that the conference link for > transportation is not correct regarding Super Shuttle service. I attempted > to schedule a shuttle to and from the hotel and was informed that Super > Shuttle is no longer available between the Denver airport and the Westin in > Westminster. Please plan accordingly. Guess I'll Uber for the 1st time. > > Bryon > > Bryon Kluesner, RhD > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > Adjunct Professor > College of Health, Education & Professional Studies > University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > 103 Frist Hall > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > 423-425-5251 > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Doug Hayman w.edu> Senior Computer Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer at ahead.org Thu Oct 10 08:42:21 2019 From: hkramer at ahead.org (Howard Kramer) Date: Thu Oct 10 08:43:18 2019 Subject: [Athen] Accessing Higher Ground Conference In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks you Susan and everyone who let me know about this. Sorry about the outdated info. I'll look into Green Ride and see what they offer. -Howard On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 8:20 AM Susan Kelmer wrote: > I?ll let Howard know, because SuperShuttle left Denver two years ago. > Look up a company called Green Ride, they took over the SuperShuttle > service area. Their rates are decent, for most things. I?ve used them and > like them (I live in Colorado so I?ve used it to get to the airport to get > out of town, rather than come TO town. J > > > > *Susan Kelmer* > > *Alternate Format Production Program Manager* > > *Disability Services* > > *University of Colorado Boulder* > > *303-735-4836* > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2019 6:37 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] Accessing Higher Ground Conference > > > > Hope to see / meet many of you at this year's AHG conference. > > > > If you are planning to attend, please note that the conference link for > transportation is not correct regarding Super Shuttle service. I attempted > to schedule a shuttle to and from the hotel and was informed that Super > Shuttle is no longer available between the Denver airport and the Westin in > Westminster. Please plan accordingly. Guess I'll Uber for the 1st time. > > > > Bryon > > > > Bryon Kluesner, RhD > > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resource Center > > Adjunct Professor > > College of Health, Education & Professional Studies > > University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > > 103 Frist Hall > > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > 423-425-5251 > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Regards, Howard Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 Join us for the *Accessing Higher Ground Conference * in Westminster, Colorado, Nov 18-22, 2019. Request for proposals will be announced mid-March. Complete program information and registration is open for our full line-up of webinars, *AHEADtoYOU! * And the *Technology Access Series *. Site capacities for all webinar events is limited; please register at your earliest convenience for the largest selection. Not yet a member of AHEAD? *We welcome you to join AHEAD now. * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Thu Oct 10 09:57:26 2019 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (Wink Harner) Date: Thu Oct 10 09:58:02 2019 Subject: [Athen] Accessing Higher Ground Conference In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dan et al, It is impossible for wheelchair users or people with mobility impairments to use the light rail + hotel shuttle or other public transportation. It would be lovely if the conference venue were close and accessible to the light rail. The hotel does not have any accessible vans for their complimentary shuttle service. While this option works for many, it is not accessible for all. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 8:13 AM Doug Hayman wrote: > I only attended the conference a couple of times and missed last year. > > I took the train from the Denver airport then the one that runs to > Westminster and believe that would be an inexpensive and accessible route. > One would just need to bridge the gap from the Westminster station to the > hotel. > > In looking at this section of the AHG web site you can see the info where > it mentions light rail and it only costs $10.50. > > https://accessinghigherground.org/lodging-and-transportation/ > > Here is a link to accessible transport in the area: > > https://www.rtd-denver.com/services/access-a-ride > > > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:38 PM Kluesner, Bryon > wrote: > >> Hope to see / meet many of you at this year's AHG conference. >> >> If you are planning to attend, please note that the conference link for >> transportation is not correct regarding Super Shuttle service. I attempted >> to schedule a shuttle to and from the hotel and was informed that Super >> Shuttle is no longer available between the Denver airport and the Westin in >> Westminster. Please plan accordingly. Guess I'll Uber for the 1st time. >> >> Bryon >> >> Bryon Kluesner, RhD >> Adaptive Technology Coordinator >> Disability Resource Center >> Adjunct Professor >> College of Health, Education & Professional Studies >> University of Tennessee at Chattanooga >> 103 Frist Hall >> Chattanooga, TN 37403 >> 423-425-5251 >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > > > -- > Doug Hayman w.edu> > Senior Computer Specialist > DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) > UW Technology Services > Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > (206) 221-4165 > http://www.washington.edu/doit > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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While this option works for many, it is not > accessible for all. > > > Wink Harner > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > The Foreign Type > > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 8:13 AM Doug Hayman wrote: > >> I only attended the conference a couple of times and missed last year. >> >> I took the train from the Denver airport then the one that runs to >> Westminster and believe that would be an inexpensive and accessible route. >> One would just need to bridge the gap from the Westminster station to the >> hotel. >> >> In looking at this section of the AHG web site you can see the info where >> it mentions light rail and it only costs $10.50. >> >> https://accessinghigherground.org/lodging-and-transportation/ >> >> Here is a link to accessible transport in the area: >> >> https://www.rtd-denver.com/services/access-a-ride >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:38 PM Kluesner, Bryon >> wrote: >> >>> Hope to see / meet many of you at this year's AHG conference. >>> >>> If you are planning to attend, please note that the conference link for >>> transportation is not correct regarding Super Shuttle service. I attempted >>> to schedule a shuttle to and from the hotel and was informed that Super >>> Shuttle is no longer available between the Denver airport and the Westin in >>> Westminster. Please plan accordingly. Guess I'll Uber for the 1st time. >>> >>> Bryon >>> >>> Bryon Kluesner, RhD >>> Adaptive Technology Coordinator >>> Disability Resource Center >>> Adjunct Professor >>> College of Health, Education & Professional Studies >>> University of Tennessee at Chattanooga >>> 103 Frist Hall >>> Chattanooga, TN 37403 >>> 423-425-5251 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> >> >> >> -- >> Doug Hayman w.edu> >> Senior Computer Specialist >> DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) >> UW Technology Services >> Box 354842 >> Seattle, WA 98195 >> (206) 221-4165 >> http://www.washington.edu/doit >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Doug Hayman w.edu> Senior Computer Specialist DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) UW Technology Services Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 221-4165 http://www.washington.edu/doit -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smarositz at csudh.edu Thu Oct 10 11:03:19 2019 From: smarositz at csudh.edu (Stephen (Alex) Marositz) Date: Thu Oct 10 11:03:33 2019 Subject: [Athen] OT: Cheating on my homework Message-ID: Hello List I was wondering whether you would be willing to help me cheat on my homework. Lol, not really. I am enrolled in a legal issues in higher education class and for our final paper,, we need to select a legal issue impacting an institution of higher education and recommend solutions to effectively address it. We need to support it with at least two published court cases. Naturally, I want to do something related to accessible technology, students with disabilities or the like. Can you think of any legal issues you would like me to research? I would be happy to share my final paper with you if I go with your idea. Thank you so much Stephen Alexander (Alex) Marositz J.D. 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Since the snow and ice is also a problem (or a challenge, at least) in Denver, I would assume the same challenges exist in keeping access to the platforms and loading areas clear of snow and ice would be chancy. I have now invented "snow chains" for my w.c. tires so I have *some* traction on slippery surfaces, but this McGyver plan did not include a snow plow ;>) When SuperShuttle ran in & out of the Denver Airport, I was thrilled! It was expensive, but it was reliable, efficient, and dependable. I use SuperShuttle wherever it's available. For a few years, before SS got a couple of w.c. lift vans, they contracted with the YellowCab accessible taxi service for the same price as SS for transport to & from the airport to the hotel in Westminster. OK, but not as comfortable or dependable as Super Shuttle. Then SS dropped support for the cab service (meaning for the same flat fee) and the cab service began charging the $2.25/mile + a bunch of surcharges to the point that a one-way fare from DIA to the Westin was more than $100 each way. What *should* be an under $80 each way charge based on mileage and airport hack license fees has added fees etc. so that a wheelchair user cannot tell ahead of time WHAT the fare is going to be up front. This is not meant in any way as a complaint. It is just the reality of what those of us who are wheelchair users have to finagle and juggle just to get back and forth to the conference. It costs significantly more for a wheelchair user for ground transportation than it does for able-bodied people. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 10:32 AM Doug Hayman wrote: > It appears that a user could get off light rail at Westminster then take > the #31 then transfer to the #104 but that says it takes 1 hour and 22 > minutes. And today they have snow and icy condition...not good at all for > wheelchair use. > > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 9:58 AM Wink Harner wrote: > >> Dan et al, >> >> It is impossible for wheelchair users or people with mobility impairments >> to use the light rail + hotel shuttle or other public transportation. It >> would be lovely if the conference venue were close and accessible to the >> light rail. The hotel does not have any accessible vans for their >> complimentary shuttle service. While this option works for many, it is not >> accessible for all. >> >> >> Wink Harner >> Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production >> The Foreign Type >> >> Portland OR >> foreigntype@gmail.com >> 480-984-0034 >> >> This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive >> quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 8:13 AM Doug Hayman wrote: >> >>> I only attended the conference a couple of times and missed last year. >>> >>> I took the train from the Denver airport then the one that runs to >>> Westminster and believe that would be an inexpensive and accessible route. >>> One would just need to bridge the gap from the Westminster station to the >>> hotel. >>> >>> In looking at this section of the AHG web site you can see the info >>> where it mentions light rail and it only costs $10.50. >>> >>> https://accessinghigherground.org/lodging-and-transportation/ >>> >>> Here is a link to accessible transport in the area: >>> >>> https://www.rtd-denver.com/services/access-a-ride >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:38 PM Kluesner, Bryon >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hope to see / meet many of you at this year's AHG conference. >>>> >>>> If you are planning to attend, please note that the conference link for >>>> transportation is not correct regarding Super Shuttle service. I attempted >>>> to schedule a shuttle to and from the hotel and was informed that Super >>>> Shuttle is no longer available between the Denver airport and the Westin in >>>> Westminster. Please plan accordingly. Guess I'll Uber for the 1st time. >>>> >>>> Bryon >>>> >>>> Bryon Kluesner, RhD >>>> Adaptive Technology Coordinator >>>> Disability Resource Center >>>> Adjunct Professor >>>> College of Health, Education & Professional Studies >>>> University of Tennessee at Chattanooga >>>> 103 Frist Hall >>>> Chattanooga, TN 37403 >>>> 423-425-5251 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> athen-list mailing list >>>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >>>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Doug Hayman w.edu> >>> Senior Computer Specialist >>> DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) >>> UW Technology Services >>> Box 354842 >>> Seattle, WA 98195 >>> (206) 221-4165 >>> http://www.washington.edu/doit >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > > > -- > Doug Hayman w.edu> > Senior Computer Specialist > DO-IT Program (Disabilities, Opportunities, Internetworking, Technology) > UW Technology Services > Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > (206) 221-4165 > http://www.washington.edu/doit > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail From: athen-list On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:35 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop I know! Usually I'm the one giving keyboard commands! I don't do this often and can't find the answer on any of the Microsoft sites or unhelpful community forums. I want to take an app that is in the start menu and put it on my desktop. If I press the AppKey on It (either in the Start menu or in the Start menu tiles), there is no option to add it to the desktop and I can't find a keyboard command to do this. I can drag it with the mouse, but I'm sure there used to be a keyboard command to do this. 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Name: image006.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4630 bytes Desc: not available URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Fri Oct 11 06:19:56 2019 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Fri Oct 11 06:20:04 2019 Subject: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop In-Reply-To: <000501d58032$05553cd0$0fffb670$@paciellogroup.com> References: <154f01d58030$5dbbec40$1933c4c0$@karlencommunications.com> <000501d58032$05553cd0$0fffb670$@paciellogroup.com> Message-ID: <225c01d58036$93eeaea0$bbcc0be0$@karlencommunications.com> Not one of the options anymore. I have Pin to Start, Pin to Taskbar, App Settings, Rate and Review and Share. If I go to my C drive and search for the app, it doesn't show up. I'm trying to put Snip & Sketch on my desktop. In checking some of the other applications like it does have the Open File Location but Snip & Sketch replaces the Windows Snipping Tool and has to be installed from the Microsoft Store. The old Snipping Tool does have Open File Location but it looks like none of the Microsoft Store apps do. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:47 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop If you open the search field and type in the app in question, it will show up. Right mouse click on the app (shift f10) and select "open file location". You may then right mouse click on the actual .exe file and send a shortcut to your desktop. Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:35 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop I know! Usually I'm the one giving keyboard commands! I don't do this often and can't find the answer on any of the Microsoft sites or unhelpful community forums. I want to take an app that is in the start menu and put it on my desktop. If I press the AppKey on It (either in the Start menu or in the Start menu tiles), there is no option to add it to the desktop and I can't find a keyboard command to do this. I can drag it with the mouse, but I'm sure there used to be a keyboard command to do this. I can't find a way to open the file location to use Send to Desktop or Create Shortcut on Desktop.none of my "go to solutions are working. Help!? Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image005.png Type: image/png Size: 7351 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:20 AM To: llewis@paciellogroup.com; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Not one of the options anymore. I have Pin to Start, Pin to Taskbar, App Settings, Rate and Review and Share. If I go to my C drive and search for the app, it doesn't show up. I'm trying to put Snip & Sketch on my desktop. In checking some of the other applications like it does have the Open File Location but Snip & Sketch replaces the Windows Snipping Tool and has to be installed from the Microsoft Store. The old Snipping Tool does have Open File Location but it looks like none of the Microsoft Store apps do. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:47 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop If you open the search field and type in the app in question, it will show up. Right mouse click on the app (shift f10) and select "open file location". You may then right mouse click on the actual .exe file and send a shortcut to your desktop. Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:35 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop I know! Usually I'm the one giving keyboard commands! I don't do this often and can't find the answer on any of the Microsoft sites or unhelpful community forums. I want to take an app that is in the start menu and put it on my desktop. If I press the AppKey on It (either in the Start menu or in the Start menu tiles), there is no option to add it to the desktop and I can't find a keyboard command to do this. I can drag it with the mouse, but I'm sure there used to be a keyboard command to do this. I can't find a way to open the file location to use Send to Desktop or Create Shortcut on Desktop.none of my "go to solutions are working. Help!? Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7351 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2846 bytes Desc: not available URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Fri Oct 11 08:18:42 2019 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Fri Oct 11 08:19:14 2019 Subject: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop In-Reply-To: <057001d5803c$0fa2d3a0$2ee87ae0$@a11yeval.com> References: <154f01d58030$5dbbec40$1933c4c0$@karlencommunications.com> <000501d58032$05553cd0$0fffb670$@paciellogroup.com> <225c01d58036$93eeaea0$bbcc0be0$@karlencommunications.com> <057001d5803c$0fa2d3a0$2ee87ae0$@a11yeval.com> Message-ID: <227201d58047$2c607550$85215ff0$@karlencommunications.com> Thanks, that worked. But what a long way around to do this. I have the option to show hidden folders and the folder doesn?t appear?I just looked. We need a less obscure way to do this. ? Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:59 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' ; llewis@paciellogroup.com Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Hi Karen, Follow the instructions on this webpage https://winaero.com/blog/desktop-shortcut-store-app-windows-10/ It is similar to what Larry suggested, the Microsoft store Apps, just live in a different folder. Once you get into the Applications folder, The snip and sketch tool has a create shortcut option in the right click menu. If you need further help, let me know. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:20 AM To: llewis@paciellogroup.com ; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Not one of the options anymore. I have Pin to Start, Pin to Taskbar, App Settings, Rate and Review and Share. If I go to my C drive and search for the app, it doesn?t show up. I?m trying to put Snip & Sketch on my desktop. In checking some of the other applications like it does have the Open File Location but Snip & Sketch replaces the Windows Snipping Tool and has to be installed from the Microsoft Store. The old Snipping Tool does have Open File Location but it looks like none of the Microsoft Store apps do. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:47 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop If you open the search field and type in the app in question, it will show up. Right mouse click on the app (shift f10) and select ?open file location?. You may then right mouse click on the actual .exe file and send a shortcut to your desktop. Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:35 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop I know! Usually I?m the one giving keyboard commands! I don?t do this often and can?t find the answer on any of the Microsoft sites or unhelpful community forums. I want to take an app that is in the start menu and put it on my desktop. If I press the AppKey on It (either in the Start menu or in the Start menu tiles), there is no option to add it to the desktop and I can?t find a keyboard command to do this. I can drag it with the mouse, but I?m sure there used to be a keyboard command to do this. 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(I like to strip Windows 10 down to the bare minimum when I do a clean install and only install the Apps and programs I?m currently using). Joe From: athen-list On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 11:19 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Thanks, that worked. But what a long way around to do this. I have the option to show hidden folders and the folder doesn?t appear?I just looked. We need a less obscure way to do this. ? Cheers, Karen From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:59 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' >; llewis@paciellogroup.com Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Hi Karen, Follow the instructions on this webpage https://winaero.com/blog/desktop-shortcut-store-app-windows-10/ It is similar to what Larry suggested, the Microsoft store Apps, just live in a different folder. Once you get into the Applications folder, The snip and sketch tool has a create shortcut option in the right click menu. If you need further help, let me know. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:20 AM To: llewis@paciellogroup.com ; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Not one of the options anymore. I have Pin to Start, Pin to Taskbar, App Settings, Rate and Review and Share. If I go to my C drive and search for the app, it doesn?t show up. I?m trying to put Snip & Sketch on my desktop. In checking some of the other applications like it does have the Open File Location but Snip & Sketch replaces the Windows Snipping Tool and has to be installed from the Microsoft Store. The old Snipping Tool does have Open File Location but it looks like none of the Microsoft Store apps do. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:47 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop If you open the search field and type in the app in question, it will show up. Right mouse click on the app (shift f10) and select ?open file location?. You may then right mouse click on the actual .exe file and send a shortcut to your desktop. Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:35 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop I know! Usually I?m the one giving keyboard commands! I don?t do this often and can?t find the answer on any of the Microsoft sites or unhelpful community forums. I want to take an app that is in the start menu and put it on my desktop. If I press the AppKey on It (either in the Start menu or in the Start menu tiles), there is no option to add it to the desktop and I can?t find a keyboard command to do this. I can drag it with the mouse, but I?m sure there used to be a keyboard command to do this. I can?t find a way to open the file location to use Send to Desktop or Create Shortcut on Desktop?none of my ?go to solutions are working. Help!? Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7351 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:51 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] What's your favorite ePub app? If she is using an Apple device, Books does well with epubs. Also, if she is using an Android or Apple mobile device, Voice Dream Reader has been a big hit with my students. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 5:47 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [EXT][Athen] What's your favorite ePub app? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hello all! We have a student who likes using ePubs and has been using them in MS Edge. She's asking about ePub apps. So I'm turning to the best resource around to find out what favorite ePub apps that have the TTS function you suggest to students. Many thanks for any thoughts! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vwalton at columbiabasin.edu Fri Oct 11 11:30:38 2019 From: vwalton at columbiabasin.edu (Walton, Vicki) Date: Fri Oct 11 11:30:51 2019 Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Message-ID: Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can't get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13559 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 646 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 1013 bytes Desc: image003.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Chief Program Officer *Carroll Center for the Blind* *Serving ALL Ages and ALL Stages of Vision Loss* 770 Centre Street, Newton, MA 02458 Phone: 617-969-6200 Ext. 238 | Fax: 617-969-6204 dina.rosenbaum@carroll.org | http://www.carroll.org/ *From:* athen-list *On Behalf Of *Walton, Vicki *Sent:* Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu *Subject:* [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you. [image: Visit the CBC Website] *Vicki Walton* *Assistive Technology Center*509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [image: Follow CBC on Facebook] [image: Follow CBC on Instagram] [image: Follow CBC on Twitter] [image: Follow CBC on YouTube] [image: Follow CBC on Snapchat] [image: We All Soar Together] -- Carroll Center for the Blind Confidentiality Notice:? 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The available screen reader functions will also depend on which mode the screen reader is in "virtual reading mode" versus "interaction/forms" mode. I'm happy to help where I can in my free time. Let me know if you have other questions. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can't get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you. Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13559 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Joe: This is because NVDA is in "Forms/interaction Mode" and is passing through the keystrokes to the Microsoft Word Application so it types h. (The main function of a Word document is kind of a giant text area field). If you exit NVDA's forms mode using NVDA Key (usually INSERT) + SPACEBAR (low pitch noise means you have switched into "virtual reading mode", High pitch noise means "Forms mode"). Once you are in "reading mode" the H key and INSERT+F7 commands will work again. See section 8. Reading Objects in NVDA's key quick reference for more help https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvdaTracAttachments/455/keycommands%20with%20 laptop%20keyboard%20layout.html#7 (possibly old link) or section 6. Browse Mode https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?#BrowseMode (this is the latest documentation) Hope this helps! Joe Humbert From: athen-list On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:09 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Hi Vicki, I work for The Paciello Group (TPG). We offer many different kinds of training and our sister company is Freedom Scientific (Full disclosure: the training sessions will probably not be free). You can contact Brian Landrigan at our company, blandrigan@paciellogroup.com or call him at 603-661-0204. He can help figure out, in collaboration with you, what training you might need. To provide a high level answer, screen readers have different controls for web browsers versus other desktop software so all commands might not be cross compatible. The available screen reader functions will also depend on which mode the screen reader is in "virtual reading mode" versus "interaction/forms" mode. I'm happy to help where I can in my free time. Let me know if you have other questions. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can't get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you. Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13559 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 646 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 1013 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The key concepts are always addressed in the text. If you need more info or learn by watching, the videos and resources are great supplements. The "Learn NVDA" tutorials have been designed to allow a person who is entirely new to NVDA, to independently install the program and learn how to use it. Freedom Scientific offers training and certification on using JAWS and ZoomText. You can set up an account and do all of the training and exams for free and you have the option to purchase the certificate once completed. I hope some of the info will be helpful. Take care, Marinette Marinette Fargo | Analyst II, Digital Accessibility Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph | Level 3 UC 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1 519-824-4120 Ext. 58925 | mfargo@uoguelph.ca uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information in this message is intended solely for the addressee(s). 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Improve Life tagline] ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:00 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 165, Issue 10 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman12.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Sutori (Million, Carrie) 2. Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop (Karlen Communications) 3. Re: Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop (Larry L. Lewis, Jr.) 4. Re: Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop (Karlen Communications) 5. Re: Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop (joe@a11yeval.com) 6. Re: Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop (Karlen Communications) 7. Re: Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop (joe@a11yeval.com) 8. Newest editions (Deborah Armstrong) 9. Re: [EXT] What's your favorite ePub app? (Deborah Armstrong) 10. JAWS and NVDA training help (Walton, Vicki) 11. Re: JAWS and NVDA training help (Dina Rosenbaum) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 22:08:10 +0000 From: "Million, Carrie" To: "athen-list@u.washington.edu" Subject: [Athen] Sutori Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all- I'm curious if anyone is using Sutori (tool where students can create collaborative timeline presentations) and what your accessibility experience has been with it? Is there a more accessible alternative? Thanks, Carrie Million Assistive Technology Specialist DSS Department Chair DSS Tutoring Coordinator [cid:image001.png@01D15DD5.2A7F0640] 321 Golf Club Road, Pleasant Hill, CA 94523 925-969-2186 Sorenson VRS 925-270-1660 cmillion@dvc.edu www.dvc.edu/onlineaccessibility> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 10466 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 08:35:28 -0400 From: "Karlen Communications" To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Subject: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Message-ID: <154f01d58030$5dbbec40$1933c4c0$@karlencommunications.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I know! Usually I'm the one giving keyboard commands! I don't do this often and can't find the answer on any of the Microsoft sites or unhelpful community forums. I want to take an app that is in the start menu and put it on my desktop. If I press the AppKey on It (either in the Start menu or in the Start menu tiles), there is no option to add it to the desktop and I can't find a keyboard command to do this. I can drag it with the mouse, but I'm sure there used to be a keyboard command to do this. I can't find a way to open the file location to use Send to Desktop or Create Shortcut on Desktop.none of my "go to solutions are working. Help!? Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 08:47:20 -0400 From: "Larry L. Lewis, Jr." To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Message-ID: <000501d58032$05553cd0$0fffb670$@paciellogroup.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If you open the search field and type in the app in question, it will show up. Right mouse click on the app (shift f10) and select "open file location". You may then right mouse click on the actual .exe file and send a shortcut to your desktop. Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail From: athen-list On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:35 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop I know! Usually I'm the one giving keyboard commands! I don't do this often and can't find the answer on any of the Microsoft sites or unhelpful community forums. I want to take an app that is in the start menu and put it on my desktop. If I press the AppKey on It (either in the Start menu or in the Start menu tiles), there is no option to add it to the desktop and I can't find a keyboard command to do this. 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Lewis, Jr. Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:47 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop If you open the search field and type in the app in question, it will show up. Right mouse click on the app (shift f10) and select "open file location". You may then right mouse click on the actual .exe file and send a shortcut to your desktop. Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:35 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop I know! Usually I'm the one giving keyboard commands! I don't do this often and can't find the answer on any of the Microsoft sites or unhelpful community forums. I want to take an app that is in the start menu and put it on my desktop. If I press the AppKey on It (either in the Start menu or in the Start menu tiles), there is no option to add it to the desktop and I can't find a keyboard command to do this. I can drag it with the mouse, but I'm sure there used to be a keyboard command to do this. I can't find a way to open the file location to use Send to Desktop or Create Shortcut on Desktop.none of my "go to solutions are working. Help!? Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image005.png Type: image/png Size: 7351 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image006.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2846 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 09:59:10 -0400 From: To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" , Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Message-ID: <057001d5803c$0fa2d3a0$2ee87ae0$@a11yeval.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Karen, Follow the instructions on this webpage https://winaero.com/blog/desktop-shortcut-store-app-windows-10/ It is similar to what Larry suggested, the Microsoft store Apps, just live in a different folder. Once you get into the Applications folder, The snip and sketch tool has a create shortcut option in the right click menu. If you need further help, let me know. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:20 AM To: llewis@paciellogroup.com; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Not one of the options anymore. I have Pin to Start, Pin to Taskbar, App Settings, Rate and Review and Share. If I go to my C drive and search for the app, it doesn't show up. I'm trying to put Snip & Sketch on my desktop. In checking some of the other applications like it does have the Open File Location but Snip & Sketch replaces the Windows Snipping Tool and has to be installed from the Microsoft Store. The old Snipping Tool does have Open File Location but it looks like none of the Microsoft Store apps do. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:47 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop If you open the search field and type in the app in question, it will show up. Right mouse click on the app (shift f10) and select "open file location". You may then right mouse click on the actual .exe file and send a shortcut to your desktop. Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:35 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop I know! Usually I'm the one giving keyboard commands! I don't do this often and can't find the answer on any of the Microsoft sites or unhelpful community forums. I want to take an app that is in the start menu and put it on my desktop. If I press the AppKey on It (either in the Start menu or in the Start menu tiles), there is no option to add it to the desktop and I can't find a keyboard command to do this. I can drag it with the mouse, but I'm sure there used to be a keyboard command to do this. I can't find a way to open the file location to use Send to Desktop or Create Shortcut on Desktop.none of my "go to solutions are working. Help!? Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7351 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:59 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' ; llewis@paciellogroup.com Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Hi Karen, Follow the instructions on this webpage https://winaero.com/blog/desktop-shortcut-store-app-windows-10/ It is similar to what Larry suggested, the Microsoft store Apps, just live in a different folder. Once you get into the Applications folder, The snip and sketch tool has a create shortcut option in the right click menu. If you need further help, let me know. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:20 AM To: llewis@paciellogroup.com ; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Not one of the options anymore. I have Pin to Start, Pin to Taskbar, App Settings, Rate and Review and Share. If I go to my C drive and search for the app, it doesn?t show up. I?m trying to put Snip & Sketch on my desktop. In checking some of the other applications like it does have the Open File Location but Snip & Sketch replaces the Windows Snipping Tool and has to be installed from the Microsoft Store. The old Snipping Tool does have Open File Location but it looks like none of the Microsoft Store apps do. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:47 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop If you open the search field and type in the app in question, it will show up. Right mouse click on the app (shift f10) and select ?open file location?. You may then right mouse click on the actual .exe file and send a shortcut to your desktop. Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:35 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop I know! Usually I?m the one giving keyboard commands! I don?t do this often and can?t find the answer on any of the Microsoft sites or unhelpful community forums. I want to take an app that is in the start menu and put it on my desktop. If I press the AppKey on It (either in the Start menu or in the Start menu tiles), there is no option to add it to the desktop and I can?t find a keyboard command to do this. I can drag it with the mouse, but I?m sure there used to be a keyboard command to do this. I can?t find a way to open the file location to use Send to Desktop or Create Shortcut on Desktop?none of my ?go to solutions are working. Help!? Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7351 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2846 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:45:02 -0400 From: To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Message-ID: <05c501d5804a$d9bcc520$8d364f60$@a11yeval.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Microsoft Apps are hard for people with and without disabilities to deal with. They don?t work like normal programs One Case: Most pre-install Microsoft apps cannot be removed (uninstalled) without using PowerShell commands and even that doesn?t work sometimes. (I like to strip Windows 10 down to the bare minimum when I do a clean install and only install the Apps and programs I?m currently using). Joe From: athen-list On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 11:19 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Thanks, that worked. But what a long way around to do this. I have the option to show hidden folders and the folder doesn?t appear?I just looked. We need a less obscure way to do this. ? Cheers, Karen From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:59 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' >; llewis@paciellogroup.com Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Hi Karen, Follow the instructions on this webpage https://winaero.com/blog/desktop-shortcut-store-app-windows-10/ It is similar to what Larry suggested, the Microsoft store Apps, just live in a different folder. Once you get into the Applications folder, The snip and sketch tool has a create shortcut option in the right click menu. If you need further help, let me know. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:20 AM To: llewis@paciellogroup.com ; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop Not one of the options anymore. I have Pin to Start, Pin to Taskbar, App Settings, Rate and Review and Share. If I go to my C drive and search for the app, it doesn?t show up. I?m trying to put Snip & Sketch on my desktop. In checking some of the other applications like it does have the Open File Location but Snip & Sketch replaces the Windows Snipping Tool and has to be installed from the Microsoft Store. The old Snipping Tool does have Open File Location but it looks like none of the Microsoft Store apps do. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:47 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop If you open the search field and type in the app in question, it will show up. Right mouse click on the app (shift f10) and select ?open file location?. You may then right mouse click on the actual .exe file and send a shortcut to your desktop. Respectfully: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Director of Government Sales and Strategic Partnerships The Paciello Group A Vispero Company 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560 Clearwater, FL 33764 Phone: +1(727) 803-8000, EXT 1909 E-Mail From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:35 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [Athen] Put a Start Menu App on the Desktop I know! Usually I?m the one giving keyboard commands! I don?t do this often and can?t find the answer on any of the Microsoft sites or unhelpful community forums. I want to take an app that is in the start menu and put it on my desktop. If I press the AppKey on It (either in the Start menu or in the Start menu tiles), there is no option to add it to the desktop and I can?t find a keyboard command to do this. I can drag it with the mouse, but I?m sure there used to be a keyboard command to do this. I can?t find a way to open the file location to use Send to Desktop or Create Shortcut on Desktop?none of my ?go to solutions are working. Help!? Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7351 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2846 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 15:51:45 +0000 From: Deborah Armstrong To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Newest editions Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Seems like more and more, the editions of textbooks students are requesting are brand-new, some with copyright dates of 2020. I'm finding this frustrating because they are not on Bookshare, they are not on learning ally, they are not on the ATN. And they aren't even in print for me to scan for the student because they are integrated in to the LMS. Are others struggling with this trend as well? I currently have over twenty requests pending for books that I just cannot get! All these students want audio, because they are brand new and haven't learned to use access technology yet. I wish the high schools would actually teach them to use modern ebooks with access technology because all they know how to do is stream music on their phones! My stats for completed requests this quarter are dismal and it is very concerning! --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 16:38:33 +0000 From: Deborah Armstrong To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] What's your favorite ePub app? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" We also love VoiceDream Reader here. Blind and sighted alike love it once they learn it on mobile devices. For blind students on Windows, hands-down the best epub reader is Qread: https://q-continuum.net/qread/ never looses your place because it auto-saves bookmarks every minute. K1000 also does well importing epubs these days. And I hear great things about Read And Write?s epub integration! From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:51 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] What's your favorite ePub app? If she is using an Apple device, Books does well with epubs. Also, if she is using an Android or Apple mobile device, Voice Dream Reader has been a big hit with my students. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 5:47 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [EXT][Athen] What's your favorite ePub app? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hello all! We have a student who likes using ePubs and has been using them in MS Edge. She's asking about ePub apps. So I'm turning to the best resource around to find out what favorite ePub apps that have the TTS function you suggest to students. Many thanks for any thoughts! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 18:30:38 +0000 From: "Walton, Vicki" To: "athen-list@u.washington.edu" Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can't get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13559 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 646 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 1013 bytes Desc: image003.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Chief Program Officer *Carroll Center for the Blind* *Serving ALL Ages and ALL Stages of Vision Loss* 770 Centre Street, Newton, MA 02458 Phone: 617-969-6200 Ext. 238 | Fax: 617-969-6204 dina.rosenbaum@carroll.org | http://www.carroll.org/ *From:* athen-list *On Behalf Of *Walton, Vicki *Sent:* Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu *Subject:* [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you. [image: Visit the CBC Website] *Vicki Walton* *Assistive Technology Center*509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [image: Follow CBC on Facebook] [image: Follow CBC on Instagram] [image: Follow CBC on Twitter] [image: Follow CBC on YouTube] [image: Follow CBC on Snapchat] [image: We All Soar Together] -- Carroll Center for the Blind Confidentiality Notice:? 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Is this perhaps a keyboard command the user or IT has set to do that which conflicts with the NVDA command? Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Just a follow up: We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can't get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. Joe: This is because NVDA is in "Forms/interaction Mode" and is passing through the keystrokes to the Microsoft Word Application so it types h. (The main function of a Word document is kind of a giant text area field). If you exit NVDA's forms mode using NVDA Key (usually INSERT) + SPACEBAR (low pitch noise means you have switched into "virtual reading mode", High pitch noise means "Forms mode"). Once you are in "reading mode" the H key and INSERT+F7 commands will work again. See section 8. Reading Objects in NVDA's key quick reference for more help https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvdaTracAttachments/455/keycommands%20with%20 laptop%20keyboard%20layout.html#7 (possibly old link) or section 6. Browse Mode https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?#BrowseMode (this is the latest documentation) Hope this helps! Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:09 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Hi Vicki, I work for The Paciello Group (TPG). We offer many different kinds of training and our sister company is Freedom Scientific (Full disclosure: the training sessions will probably not be free). You can contact Brian Landrigan at our company, blandrigan@paciellogroup.com or call him at 603-661-0204. He can help figure out, in collaboration with you, what training you might need. To provide a high level answer, screen readers have different controls for web browsers versus other desktop software so all commands might not be cross compatible. The available screen reader functions will also depend on which mode the screen reader is in "virtual reading mode" versus "interaction/forms" mode. I'm happy to help where I can in my free time. Let me know if you have other questions. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can't get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you. Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13559 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 646 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 1013 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I wonder if any of you may have worked with ML Work Orders - https://www.masterlibrary.com/other-markets.html If so, would you be willing to share your experiences and details about accessibility issues? -- Corrine Schoeb Technology Accessibility Coordinator, ITS 610-957-6208 *** Swarthmore College ITS will *never* ask you for your password, including by email. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and the security of our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eileenberger33 at gmail.com Mon Oct 14 07:33:14 2019 From: eileenberger33 at gmail.com (Eileen Berger) Date: Mon Oct 14 08:28:07 2019 Subject: [Athen] OT: case study for access technology In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <390F988F-0C95-4A65-AB27-7D1BF962DD10@gmail.com> Hi Stephen, The Miami of Ohio case is one of the best!A gifted Blind student with extremely limited access to course management software, websites, just about every digital accessibility needs within the university. No procurement policies and no coordination or collaboration with academic, student services disability services, communications , athletics, student activities etc?attitude al issues and peer inclusion practices did not work for this pre-veterinarian student. The department of justice stepped in as the plaintiffs the situation was spot egregious. Good luck on your paper! Eileen Berger > On Oct 10, 2019, at 2:03 PM, Stephen (Alex) Marositz wrote: > > Hello List > > I was wondering whether you would be willing to help me cheat on my homework. Lol, not really. I am enrolled in a legal issues in higher education class and for our final paper,, we need to select a legal issue impacting an institution of higher education and recommend solutions to effectively address it. We need to support it with at least two published court cases. Naturally, I want to do something related to accessible technology, students with disabilities or the like. Can you think of any legal issues you would like me to research? I would be happy to share my final paper with you if I go with your idea. > > Thank you so much > > > Stephen Alexander (Alex) Marositz J.D. CPACC > Accessible Technology Initiative Coordinator > Information Technology Services, California State University Dominguez Hills > (310)243-3077 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcb4y at virginia.edu Mon Oct 14 08:45:52 2019 From: bcb4y at virginia.edu (Butler, Brandon (bcb4y)) Date: Mon Oct 14 08:46:32 2019 Subject: [Athen] OT: case study for access technology In-Reply-To: <390F988F-0C95-4A65-AB27-7D1BF962DD10@gmail.com> References: <390F988F-0C95-4A65-AB27-7D1BF962DD10@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, I agree that the Miami case is great, and might I suggest you could combine that case with the Authors Guild v. HathiTrust case to generate a nice set-up and resolution: the Miami case says students have a right to access course materials, then the HathiTrust case says fair use gives institutions the right to make and share copies of in-copyright material with qualified students. This is the argument I and my co-authors develop in our white paper but one interesting follow-up question I?ve seen posed in several contexts is whether fair use also permits institutions to remediate materials posted on LMSes for all students (not just folks with disabilities). There you could also bring in the Cambridge U.Press et al. v. Patton case (aka, the Georgia State course reserves case), which is still raging and unresolved. I have thoughts, but I don?t think it?s anything anyone has written about anywhere. Best, Brandon On Oct 14, 2019, at 10:33 AM, Eileen Berger > wrote: Hi Stephen, The Miami of Ohio case is one of the best!A gifted Blind student with extremely limited access to course management software, websites, just about every digital accessibility needs within the university. No procurement policies and no coordination or collaboration with academic, student services disability services, communications , athletics, student activities etc?attitude al issues and peer inclusion practices did not work for this pre-veterinarian student. The department of justice stepped in as the plaintiffs the situation was spot egregious. Good luck on your paper! Eileen Berger On Oct 10, 2019, at 2:03 PM, Stephen (Alex) Marositz > wrote: Hello List I was wondering whether you would be willing to help me cheat on my homework. Lol, not really. I am enrolled in a legal issues in higher education class and for our final paper,, we need to select a legal issue impacting an institution of higher education and recommend solutions to effectively address it. We need to support it with at least two published court cases. Naturally, I want to do something related to accessible technology, students with disabilities or the like. Can you think of any legal issues you would like me to research? I would be happy to share my final paper with you if I go with your idea. Thank you so much Stephen Alexander (Alex) Marositz J.D. CPACC Accessible Technology Initiative Coordinator Information Technology Services, California State University Dominguez Hills (310)243-3077 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vwalton at columbiabasin.edu Mon Oct 14 09:28:30 2019 From: vwalton at columbiabasin.edu (Walton, Vicki) Date: Mon Oct 14 09:28:48 2019 Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help In-Reply-To: <006701d5806a$30489710$90d9c530$@a11yeval.com> References: <002a01d58067$48dc94a0$da95bde0$@a11yeval.com> <006701d5806a$30489710$90d9c530$@a11yeval.com> Message-ID: Thank you, Joe, that was it for the H quick heading problem. Now, I still can't get the Elements list (Insert F7) to work in a Word document. No matter what I do, it still opens the Google Chrome browser (it is my default browser). [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. Just a follow up: We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can't get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. Joe: This is because NVDA is in "Forms/interaction Mode" and is passing through the keystrokes to the Microsoft Word Application so it types h. (The main function of a Word document is kind of a giant text area field). If you exit NVDA's forms mode using NVDA Key (usually INSERT) + SPACEBAR (low pitch noise means you have switched into "virtual reading mode", High pitch noise means "Forms mode"). Once you are in "reading mode" the H key and INSERT+F7 commands will work again. See section 8. Reading Objects in NVDA's key quick reference for more help https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvdaTracAttachments/455/keycommands%20with%20laptop%20keyboard%20layout.html#7 (possibly old link) or section 6. Browse Mode https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?#BrowseMode (this is the latest documentation) Hope this helps! Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:09 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Hi Vicki, I work for The Paciello Group (TPG). We offer many different kinds of training and our sister company is Freedom Scientific (Full disclosure: the training sessions will probably not be free). You can contact Brian Landrigan at our company, blandrigan@paciellogroup.com or call him at 603-661-0204. He can help figure out, in collaboration with you, what training you might need. To provide a high level answer, screen readers have different controls for web browsers versus other desktop software so all commands might not be cross compatible. The available screen reader functions will also depend on which mode the screen reader is in "virtual reading mode" versus "interaction/forms" mode. I'm happy to help where I can in my free time. Let me know if you have other questions. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can't get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13559 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 646 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 1013 bytes Desc: image003.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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[Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:29 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Thank you, Joe, that was it for the H quick heading problem. Now, I still can't get the Elements list (Insert F7) to work in a Word document. No matter what I do, it still opens the Google Chrome browser (it is my default browser). [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. Just a follow up: We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can't get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. Joe: This is because NVDA is in "Forms/interaction Mode" and is passing through the keystrokes to the Microsoft Word Application so it types h. (The main function of a Word document is kind of a giant text area field). If you exit NVDA's forms mode using NVDA Key (usually INSERT) + SPACEBAR (low pitch noise means you have switched into "virtual reading mode", High pitch noise means "Forms mode"). Once you are in "reading mode" the H key and INSERT+F7 commands will work again. See section 8. Reading Objects in NVDA's key quick reference for more help https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvdaTracAttachments/455/keycommands%20with%20laptop%20keyboard%20layout.html#7 (possibly old link) or section 6. Browse Mode https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?#BrowseMode (this is the latest documentation) Hope this helps! Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:09 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Hi Vicki, I work for The Paciello Group (TPG). We offer many different kinds of training and our sister company is Freedom Scientific (Full disclosure: the training sessions will probably not be free). You can contact Brian Landrigan at our company, blandrigan@paciellogroup.com or call him at 603-661-0204. He can help figure out, in collaboration with you, what training you might need. To provide a high level answer, screen readers have different controls for web browsers versus other desktop software so all commands might not be cross compatible. The available screen reader functions will also depend on which mode the screen reader is in "virtual reading mode" versus "interaction/forms" mode. I'm happy to help where I can in my free time. Let me know if you have other questions. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. 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I want some examples so that my students can see the type of language used in job descriptions related to alternate media production, accessible document design and so forth as well as some of the duties and skills needed. If anyone has some past or present job descriptions in this area they can share, please send them to me off list.or if there is an online resource my students can use, I'd appreciate that as well. Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.nguyen at csun.edu Mon Oct 14 09:46:16 2019 From: van.nguyen at csun.edu (Nguyen, Van Thi) Date: Mon Oct 14 09:46:34 2019 Subject: [Athen] Tri-fold Brochure PDF In-Reply-To: References: <00cc01d57b2d$f25c55e0$d71501a0$@pubcom.com> Message-ID: Hi Todd and Bevi, Thank you so much for the InDesign helpful guide. Much appreciated. Van Nguyen Universal Design Center | Information Technology California State University, Northridge van.nguyen@csun.edu | 818-435-7383 | Oviatt 34 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Todd Schwanke Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 8:38 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Tri-fold Brochure PDF Hi Van Nguyen You can also check out this document. It is based on a previous version of InDesign, so there may be points where you need to adapt a little bit. http://access-ed.r2d2.uwm.edu/resources/Tri-fold_Brochure_2010-8-13.pdf The intent here is to be able to use one file for both printing and the accessible/screen copy, rather than having to update 2 files. The other benefit of these instructions is being able to visually read/review a brochure on a screen in a logical panel order. One limitation though is when there are backgrounds/images that cross multiple pages. Todd Schwanke UW-Madison From: athen-list > On Behalf Of chagnon@pubcom.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2019 10:36 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Tri-fold Brochure PDF Have your designer use Adobe InDesign for this type of publication because it has the tools to sequence the text & tags in a logical reading order. The designer should set up the layout to be made up of 3 individual pages per side. That is, 2 spreads of 3 pages melded together. This will allow the PDF to be viewed in the logical order we read a printed version. The reading order should be: 1. Front cover 2. Inside flap 3. Inside 3-pages/panels 4. Back of the brochure --Bevi Chagnon - - - Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO | Bevi@PubCom.com - - - PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting * training * development * design * sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes - - - Latest blog-newsletter - Accessibility Tips at www.PubCom.com/blog From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Nguyen, Van Thi Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 8:01 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Tri-fold Brochure PDF Hello all, Has anyone made a tri-fold brochure PDF accessible? Any suggestions on how to organize the reading order in a way where the screen reader can alternate pages in order to replicate how we would read a printed trifold brochure? Thank you for your help. Van Nguyen Universal Design Center | Information Technology California State University, Northridge van.nguyen@csun.edu | 818-435-7383 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joe at a11yeval.com Mon Oct 14 10:53:36 2019 From: joe at a11yeval.com (joe@a11yeval.com) Date: Mon Oct 14 10:54:04 2019 Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help In-Reply-To: References: <002a01d58067$48dc94a0$da95bde0$@a11yeval.com> <006701d5806a$30489710$90d9c530$@a11yeval.com> Message-ID: <05b301d582b8$4e625c40$eb2714c0$@a11yeval.com> Hi Vicki, It seems like you might have some sort of Windows shortcut for Chrome setup. If you change the NVDA key to Capslock, do you still have the same issue? Thankx, Joe Humbert P.S. I would still recommend that you seek out more screen reader training whether it be free or paid to help increase your knowledge ? From: athen-list On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 12:35 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help In fact, I can?t get the Elements List to work in a PDF either. It just opens the Chrome browser, too. Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:29 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Thank you, Joe, that was it for the H quick heading problem. Now, I still can?t get the Elements list (Insert F7) to work in a Word document. No matter what I do, it still opens the Google Chrome browser (it is my default browser). Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu . Just a follow up: We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. Joe: This is because NVDA is in ?Forms/interaction Mode? and is passing through the keystrokes to the Microsoft Word Application so it types h. (The main function of a Word document is kind of a giant text area field). If you exit NVDA?s forms mode using NVDA Key (usually INSERT) + SPACEBAR (low pitch noise means you have switched into ?virtual reading mode?, High pitch noise means ?Forms mode?). Once you are in ?reading mode? the H key and INSERT+F7 commands will work again. See section 8. Reading Objects in NVDA?s key quick reference for more help https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvdaTracAttachments/455/keycommands%20with%20laptop%20keyboard%20layout.html#7 (possibly old link) or section 6. Browse Mode https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?#BrowseMode (this is the latest documentation) Hope this helps! Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:09 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Hi Vicki, I work for The Paciello Group (TPG). We offer many different kinds of training and our sister company is Freedom Scientific (Full disclosure: the training sessions will probably not be free). You can contact Brian Landrigan at our company, blandrigan@paciellogroup.com or call him at 603-661-0204. He can help figure out, in collaboration with you, what training you might need. To provide a high level answer, screen readers have different controls for web browsers versus other desktop software so all commands might not be cross compatible. The available screen reader functions will also depend on which mode the screen reader is in ?virtual reading mode? versus ?interaction/forms? mode. I?m happy to help where I can in my free time. Let me know if you have other questions. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. 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[Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 10:54 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. Hi Vicki, It seems like you might have some sort of Windows shortcut for Chrome setup. If you change the NVDA key to Capslock, do you still have the same issue? Thankx, Joe Humbert P.S. I would still recommend that you seek out more screen reader training whether it be free or paid to help increase your knowledge ? From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 12:35 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help In fact, I can?t get the Elements List to work in a PDF either. It just opens the Chrome browser, too. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:29 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Thank you, Joe, that was it for the H quick heading problem. Now, I still can?t get the Elements list (Insert F7) to work in a Word document. No matter what I do, it still opens the Google Chrome browser (it is my default browser). [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. Just a follow up: We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. Joe: This is because NVDA is in ?Forms/interaction Mode? and is passing through the keystrokes to the Microsoft Word Application so it types h. (The main function of a Word document is kind of a giant text area field). If you exit NVDA?s forms mode using NVDA Key (usually INSERT) + SPACEBAR (low pitch noise means you have switched into ?virtual reading mode?, High pitch noise means ?Forms mode?). Once you are in ?reading mode? the H key and INSERT+F7 commands will work again. See section 8. Reading Objects in NVDA?s key quick reference for more help https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvdaTracAttachments/455/keycommands%20with%20laptop%20keyboard%20layout.html#7 (possibly old link) or section 6. Browse Mode https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?#BrowseMode (this is the latest documentation) Hope this helps! Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:09 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Hi Vicki, I work for The Paciello Group (TPG). We offer many different kinds of training and our sister company is Freedom Scientific (Full disclosure: the training sessions will probably not be free). You can contact Brian Landrigan at our company, blandrigan@paciellogroup.com or call him at 603-661-0204. He can help figure out, in collaboration with you, what training you might need. To provide a high level answer, screen readers have different controls for web browsers versus other desktop software so all commands might not be cross compatible. The available screen reader functions will also depend on which mode the screen reader is in ?virtual reading mode? versus ?interaction/forms? mode. I?m happy to help where I can in my free time. Let me know if you have other questions. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. 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On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 1:57 PM wrote: > Hi Vicki, > > > > It seems like you might have some sort of Windows shortcut for Chrome > setup. If you change the NVDA key to Capslock, do you still have the same > issue? > > > > Thankx, > > Joe Humbert > > > > P.S. I would still recommend that you seek out more screen reader > training whether it be free or paid to help increase your knowledge ? > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Walton, Vicki > *Sent:* Monday, October 14, 2019 12:35 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help > > > > In fact, I can?t get the Elements List to work in a PDF either. It just > opens the Chrome browser, too. > > > > > > [image: Visit the CBC Website] > > > *Vicki Walton* > > *Assistive Technology Center*509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 > 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 > > [image: Follow CBC on Facebook] > [image: Follow CBC on > Instagram] [image: Follow CBC on > Twitter] [image: Follow CBC on > YouTube] [image: Follow > CBC on Snapchat] > > [image: We All Soar Together] > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Walton, Vicki > *Sent:* Monday, October 14, 2019 9:29 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help > > > > Thank you, Joe, that was it for the H quick heading problem. Now, I still > can?t get the Elements list (Insert F7) to work in a Word document. No > matter what I do, it still opens the Google Chrome browser (it is my > default browser). > > > > > > [image: Visit the CBC Website] > > > *Vicki Walton* > > *Assistive Technology Center*509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 > 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 > > [image: Follow CBC on Facebook] > [image: Follow CBC on > Instagram] [image: Follow CBC on > Twitter] [image: Follow CBC on > YouTube] [image: Follow > CBC on Snapchat] > > [image: We All Soar Together] > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *joe@a11yeval.com > *Sent:* Friday, October 11, 2019 12:29 PM > *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help > > > > *CAUTION:* This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. > Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu > . > > Just a follow up: > > > > We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other > documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to > work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the > quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither > myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if > I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it > opens google instead. > > > > Joe: This is because NVDA is in ?Forms/interaction Mode? and is passing > through the keystrokes to the Microsoft Word Application so it types h. > (The main function of a Word document is kind of a giant text area field). > If you exit NVDA?s forms mode using NVDA Key (usually INSERT) + SPACEBAR > (low pitch noise means you have switched into ?virtual reading mode?, High > pitch noise means ?Forms mode?). Once you are in ?reading mode? the H key > and INSERT+F7 commands will work again. > > > > See section 8. Reading Objects in NVDA?s key quick reference for more help > https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvdaTracAttachments/455/keycommands%20with%20laptop%20keyboard%20layout.html#7 > (possibly old link) or section 6. Browse Mode > https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?#BrowseMode > (this is the latest documentation) > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > Joe Humbert > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *joe@a11yeval.com > *Sent:* Friday, October 11, 2019 3:09 PM > *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help > > > > Hi Vicki, > > > > I work for The Paciello Group (TPG). We offer many different kinds of > training and our sister company is Freedom Scientific (Full disclosure: the > training sessions will probably not be free). > > > > You can contact Brian Landrigan at our company, > blandrigan@paciellogroup.com or call him at 603-661-0204. He can help > figure out, in collaboration with you, what training you might need. > > > > To provide a high level answer, screen readers have different controls for > web browsers versus other desktop software so all commands might not be > cross compatible. The available screen reader functions will also depend > on which mode the screen reader is in ?virtual reading mode? versus > ?interaction/forms? mode. > > > > I?m happy to help where I can in my free time. > > > > Let me know if you have other questions. > > > > Thankx, > > Joe Humbert > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Walton, Vicki > *Sent:* Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help > > > > Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or > purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we > have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our > skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. > > > > We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and > advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video > conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. > > > > We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other > documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to > work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the > quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither > myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if > I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it > opens google instead. > > > > We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. > > > > Any help will be much appreciated. > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > [image: Visit the CBC Website] > > > *Vicki Walton* > > *Assistive Technology Center*509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 > 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 > > [image: Follow CBC on Facebook] > [image: Follow CBC on > Instagram] [image: Follow CBC on > Twitter] [image: Follow CBC on > YouTube] [image: Follow > CBC on Snapchat] > > [image: We All Soar Together] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13559 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 646 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 1013 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In fact, without any screen reader running, when I initiate the Insert F7, my Chrome browser opens up. It must be some setting on my system. I am not sure where to look? I do not make any custom settings in NVDA or my browser. Now, on to searching there this is set?. ? [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 11:06 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. Also, just like when you are using quick keys such as H to jump between headings, you have to have Browse mode turned on by pressing insert+space. When you hear the low pitched sound you will know you're in browse mode. The elements list will not work unless you're in browse mode. On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 1:57 PM > wrote: Hi Vicki, It seems like you might have some sort of Windows shortcut for Chrome setup. If you change the NVDA key to Capslock, do you still have the same issue? Thankx, Joe Humbert P.S. I would still recommend that you seek out more screen reader training whether it be free or paid to help increase your knowledge ? From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 12:35 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help In fact, I can?t get the Elements List to work in a PDF either. It just opens the Chrome browser, too. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:29 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Thank you, Joe, that was it for the H quick heading problem. Now, I still can?t get the Elements list (Insert F7) to work in a Word document. No matter what I do, it still opens the Google Chrome browser (it is my default browser). [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. Just a follow up: We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. Joe: This is because NVDA is in ?Forms/interaction Mode? and is passing through the keystrokes to the Microsoft Word Application so it types h. (The main function of a Word document is kind of a giant text area field). If you exit NVDA?s forms mode using NVDA Key (usually INSERT) + SPACEBAR (low pitch noise means you have switched into ?virtual reading mode?, High pitch noise means ?Forms mode?). Once you are in ?reading mode? the H key and INSERT+F7 commands will work again. See section 8. Reading Objects in NVDA?s key quick reference for more help https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvdaTracAttachments/455/keycommands%20with%20laptop%20keyboard%20layout.html#7 (possibly old link) or section 6. Browse Mode https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?#BrowseMode (this is the latest documentation) Hope this helps! Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:09 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Hi Vicki, I work for The Paciello Group (TPG). We offer many different kinds of training and our sister company is Freedom Scientific (Full disclosure: the training sessions will probably not be free). You can contact Brian Landrigan at our company, blandrigan@paciellogroup.com or call him at 603-661-0204. He can help figure out, in collaboration with you, what training you might need. To provide a high level answer, screen readers have different controls for web browsers versus other desktop software so all commands might not be cross compatible. The available screen reader functions will also depend on which mode the screen reader is in ?virtual reading mode? versus ?interaction/forms? mode. I?m happy to help where I can in my free time. Let me know if you have other questions. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 1:15 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Yes, Robert, I played with that, too. Nothing changed. In fact, without any screen reader running, when I initiate the Insert F7, my Chrome browser opens up. It must be some setting on my system. I am not sure where to look? I do not make any custom settings in NVDA or my browser. Now, on to searching there this is set?. :) Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 11:06 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu . Also, just like when you are using quick keys such as H to jump between headings, you have to have Browse mode turned on by pressing insert+space. When you hear the low pitched sound you will know you're in browse mode. The elements list will not work unless you're in browse mode. On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 1:57 PM > wrote: Hi Vicki, It seems like you might have some sort of Windows shortcut for Chrome setup. If you change the NVDA key to Capslock, do you still have the same issue? Thankx, Joe Humbert P.S. I would still recommend that you seek out more screen reader training whether it be free or paid to help increase your knowledge ? From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 12:35 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help In fact, I can?t get the Elements List to work in a PDF either. It just opens the Chrome browser, too. Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:29 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Thank you, Joe, that was it for the H quick heading problem. Now, I still can?t get the Elements list (Insert F7) to work in a Word document. No matter what I do, it still opens the Google Chrome browser (it is my default browser). Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu . Just a follow up: We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. Joe: This is because NVDA is in ?Forms/interaction Mode? and is passing through the keystrokes to the Microsoft Word Application so it types h. (The main function of a Word document is kind of a giant text area field). If you exit NVDA?s forms mode using NVDA Key (usually INSERT) + SPACEBAR (low pitch noise means you have switched into ?virtual reading mode?, High pitch noise means ?Forms mode?). Once you are in ?reading mode? the H key and INSERT+F7 commands will work again. See section 8. Reading Objects in NVDA?s key quick reference for more help https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvdaTracAttachments/455/keycommands%20with%20laptop%20keyboard%20layout.html#7 (possibly old link) or section 6. Browse Mode https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?#BrowseMode (this is the latest documentation) Hope this helps! Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:09 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Hi Vicki, I work for The Paciello Group (TPG). We offer many different kinds of training and our sister company is Freedom Scientific (Full disclosure: the training sessions will probably not be free). You can contact Brian Landrigan at our company, blandrigan@paciellogroup.com or call him at 603-661-0204. He can help figure out, in collaboration with you, what training you might need. To provide a high level answer, screen readers have different controls for web browsers versus other desktop software so all commands might not be cross compatible. The available screen reader functions will also depend on which mode the screen reader is in ?virtual reading mode? versus ?interaction/forms? mode. I?m happy to help where I can in my free time. Let me know if you have other questions. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you. 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Blind and sighted alike love it once > they learn it on mobile devices. > > > > For blind students on Windows, hands-down the best epub reader is Qread: > > > > https://q-continuum.net/qread/ > > never looses your place because it auto-saves bookmarks every minute. > > > > K1000 also does well importing epubs these days. > > > > And I hear great things about Read And Write?s epub integration! > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Robert Beach > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:51 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] [EXT] What's your favorite ePub app? > > > > If she is using an Apple device, Books does well with epubs. Also, if she > is using an Android or Apple mobile device, Voice Dream Reader has been a > big hit with my students. > > > > Robert Lee Beach > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Kansas City Kansas Community College > > 7250 State Avenue > > Kansas City, KS 66112 > > Phone: 913-288-7671 > > Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Heidi Scher > *Sent:* Monday, October 7, 2019 5:47 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [EXT][Athen] What's your favorite ePub app? > > > > *CAUTION:** This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or > open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all > suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu .* > > Hello all! > > We have a student who likes using ePubs and has been using them in MS > Edge. > > > > She's asking about ePub apps. So I'm turning to the best resource around > to find out what favorite ePub apps that have the TTS function you suggest > to students. > > > > Many thanks for any thoughts! > > > > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director - AT > > *she, her, hers* > > Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas > > 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 phone > 479.575.7445 fax > +++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From vwalton at columbiabasin.edu Mon Oct 14 14:13:15 2019 From: vwalton at columbiabasin.edu (Walton, Vicki) Date: Mon Oct 14 14:13:39 2019 Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help In-Reply-To: <00fc01d582bc$a4c564c0$ee502e40$@travisroth.com> References: <002a01d58067$48dc94a0$da95bde0$@a11yeval.com> <006701d5806a$30489710$90d9c530$@a11yeval.com> <05b301d582b8$4e625c40$eb2714c0$@a11yeval.com> <00fc01d582bc$a4c564c0$ee502e40$@travisroth.com> Message-ID: The problem with my Insert F7, it is my keyboard. I have a Logitech K350 and it has options for the what they call the F key function. Nothing I do lets me bypass it. By default, F7 is set to open your web browser, thus my Google Chrome opening each time I press F7. So, I am resorting to a USB keyboard when I do testing. Thank you to those who helped. Now, on to training. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list On Behalf Of Travis Roth Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 11:25 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. As for F7 opening Chrome, it kind of sounds like your keyboard has its own shortcuts built in and they?re being triggered. This is quite common, and annoying to screen reader users. Almost every time I buy a new laptop I have to go into the BIOS and turn off the extended functionality so I can get the old function keys, F1, F2, etc., back. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 1:15 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Yes, Robert, I played with that, too. Nothing changed. In fact, without any screen reader running, when I initiate the Insert F7, my Chrome browser opens up. It must be some setting on my system. I am not sure where to look? I do not make any custom settings in NVDA or my browser. Now, on to searching there this is set?. ? [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 11:06 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. Also, just like when you are using quick keys such as H to jump between headings, you have to have Browse mode turned on by pressing insert+space. When you hear the low pitched sound you will know you're in browse mode. The elements list will not work unless you're in browse mode. On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 1:57 PM > wrote: Hi Vicki, It seems like you might have some sort of Windows shortcut for Chrome setup. If you change the NVDA key to Capslock, do you still have the same issue? Thankx, Joe Humbert P.S. I would still recommend that you seek out more screen reader training whether it be free or paid to help increase your knowledge ? From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 12:35 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help In fact, I can?t get the Elements List to work in a PDF either. It just opens the Chrome browser, too. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:29 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Thank you, Joe, that was it for the H quick heading problem. Now, I still can?t get the Elements list (Insert F7) to work in a Word document. No matter what I do, it still opens the Google Chrome browser (it is my default browser). [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. Just a follow up: We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. Joe: This is because NVDA is in ?Forms/interaction Mode? and is passing through the keystrokes to the Microsoft Word Application so it types h. (The main function of a Word document is kind of a giant text area field). If you exit NVDA?s forms mode using NVDA Key (usually INSERT) + SPACEBAR (low pitch noise means you have switched into ?virtual reading mode?, High pitch noise means ?Forms mode?). Once you are in ?reading mode? the H key and INSERT+F7 commands will work again. See section 8. Reading Objects in NVDA?s key quick reference for more help https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvdaTracAttachments/455/keycommands%20with%20laptop%20keyboard%20layout.html#7 (possibly old link) or section 6. Browse Mode https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?#BrowseMode (this is the latest documentation) Hope this helps! Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:09 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Hi Vicki, I work for The Paciello Group (TPG). We offer many different kinds of training and our sister company is Freedom Scientific (Full disclosure: the training sessions will probably not be free). You can contact Brian Landrigan at our company, blandrigan@paciellogroup.com or call him at 603-661-0204. He can help figure out, in collaboration with you, what training you might need. To provide a high level answer, screen readers have different controls for web browsers versus other desktop software so all commands might not be cross compatible. The available screen reader functions will also depend on which mode the screen reader is in ?virtual reading mode? versus ?interaction/forms? mode. I?m happy to help where I can in my free time. Let me know if you have other questions. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Nothing I do > lets me bypass it. By default, F7 is set to open your web browser, thus > my Google Chrome opening each time I press F7. > > > > So, I am resorting to a USB keyboard when I do testing. > > > > Thank you to those who helped. > > > > Now, on to training. > > > > > > [image: Visit the CBC Website] > > > *Vicki Walton* > > *Assistive Technology Center *509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 > 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 > > [image: Follow CBC on Facebook] > [image: Follow CBC on > Instagram] [image: Follow CBC on > Twitter] [image: Follow CBC on > YouTube] [image: Follow > CBC on Snapchat] > > [image: We All Soar Together] > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Travis Roth > *Sent:* Monday, October 14, 2019 11:25 AM > *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help > > > > *CAUTION:* This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. > Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu > . > > As for F7 opening Chrome, it kind of sounds like your keyboard has its own > shortcuts built in and they?re being triggered. > > This is quite common, and annoying to screen reader users. Almost every > time I buy a new laptop I have to go into the BIOS and turn off the > extended functionality so I can get the old function keys, F1, F2, etc., > back. > > > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu > ] *On Behalf Of *Walton, > Vicki > *Sent:* Monday, October 14, 2019 1:15 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help > > > > Yes, Robert, I played with that, too. Nothing changed. In fact, without > any screen reader running, when I initiate the Insert F7, my Chrome browser > opens up. It must be some setting on my system. I am not sure where to > look? I do not make any custom settings in NVDA or my browser. > > > > Now, on to searching there this is set?. J > > > > > > [image: Visit the CBC Website] > > > *Vicki Walton* > > *Assistive Technology Center *509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 > 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 > > [image: Follow CBC on Facebook] > [image: Follow CBC on > Instagram] [image: Follow CBC on > Twitter] [image: Follow CBC on > YouTube] [image: Follow > CBC on Snapchat] > > [image: We All Soar Together] > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Robert Spangler > *Sent:* Monday, October 14, 2019 11:06 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help > > > > *CAUTION:* This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. > Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu > . > > Also, just like when you are using quick keys such as H to jump between > headings, you have to have Browse mode turned on by pressing insert+space. > When you hear the low pitched sound you will know you're in browse mode. > The elements list will not work unless you're in browse mode. > > > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 1:57 PM wrote: > > Hi Vicki, > > > > It seems like you might have some sort of Windows shortcut for Chrome > setup. If you change the NVDA key to Capslock, do you still have the same > issue? > > > > Thankx, > > Joe Humbert > > > > P.S. I would still recommend that you seek out more screen reader > training whether it be free or paid to help increase your knowledge ? > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Walton, Vicki > *Sent:* Monday, October 14, 2019 12:35 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help > > > > In fact, I can?t get the Elements List to work in a PDF either. It just > opens the Chrome browser, too. > > > > > > [image: Visit the CBC Website] > > > *Vicki Walton* > > *Assistive Technology Center *509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 > 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 > > [image: Follow CBC on Facebook] > [image: Follow CBC on > Instagram] [image: Follow CBC on > Twitter] [image: Follow CBC on > YouTube] [image: Follow > CBC on Snapchat] > > [image: We All Soar Together] > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Walton, Vicki > *Sent:* Monday, October 14, 2019 9:29 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help > > > > Thank you, Joe, that was it for the H quick heading problem. Now, I still > can?t get the Elements list (Insert F7) to work in a Word document. No > matter what I do, it still opens the Google Chrome browser (it is my > default browser). > > > > > > [image: Visit the CBC Website] > > > *Vicki Walton* > > *Assistive Technology Center *509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 > 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 > > [image: Follow CBC on Facebook] > [image: Follow CBC on > Instagram] [image: Follow CBC on > Twitter] [image: Follow CBC on > YouTube] [image: Follow > CBC on Snapchat] > > [image: We All Soar Together] > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *joe@a11yeval.com > *Sent:* Friday, October 11, 2019 12:29 PM > *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help > > > > *CAUTION:* This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. > Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu > . > > Just a follow up: > > > > We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other > documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to > work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the > quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither > myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if > I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it > opens google instead. > > > > Joe: This is because NVDA is in ?Forms/interaction Mode? and is passing > through the keystrokes to the Microsoft Word Application so it types h. > (The main function of a Word document is kind of a giant text area field). > If you exit NVDA?s forms mode using NVDA Key (usually INSERT) + SPACEBAR > (low pitch noise means you have switched into ?virtual reading mode?, High > pitch noise means ?Forms mode?). Once you are in ?reading mode? the H key > and INSERT+F7 commands will work again. > > > > See section 8. Reading Objects in NVDA?s key quick reference for more help > https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvdaTracAttachments/455/keycommands%20with%20laptop%20keyboard%20layout.html#7 > (possibly old link) or section 6. Browse Mode > https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?#BrowseMode > (this is the latest documentation) > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > Joe Humbert > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *joe@a11yeval.com > *Sent:* Friday, October 11, 2019 3:09 PM > *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help > > > > Hi Vicki, > > > > I work for The Paciello Group (TPG). We offer many different kinds of > training and our sister company is Freedom Scientific (Full disclosure: the > training sessions will probably not be free). > > > > You can contact Brian Landrigan at our company, > blandrigan@paciellogroup.com or call him at 603-661-0204. He can help > figure out, in collaboration with you, what training you might need. > > > > To provide a high level answer, screen readers have different controls for > web browsers versus other desktop software so all commands might not be > cross compatible. The available screen reader functions will also depend > on which mode the screen reader is in ?virtual reading mode? versus > ?interaction/forms? mode. > > > > I?m happy to help where I can in my free time. > > > > Let me know if you have other questions. > > > > Thankx, > > Joe Humbert > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Walton, Vicki > *Sent:* Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help > > > > Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or > purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we > have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our > skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. > > > > We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and > advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video > conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. > > > > We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other > documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to > work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the > quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither > myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if > I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it > opens google instead. > > > > We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. > > > > Any help will be much appreciated. > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > [image: Visit the CBC Website] > > > *Vicki Walton* > > *Assistive Technology Center *509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 > 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 > > [image: Follow CBC on Facebook] > [image: Follow CBC on > Instagram] [image: Follow CBC on > Twitter] [image: Follow CBC on > YouTube] [image: Follow > CBC on Snapchat] > > [image: We All Soar Together] > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > > Fax: 937-229-3270 > > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Going to a standard keyboard started hurting right away. Without the SetPoint software, and even though Windows 10 has toggle keys sounds it did not work. My toggle keys is a huge feature for me. My keyboard does not have lights to let me know if they are on or off. So, I went to the web and found an updated version of SetPoint. I installed it and low and behold, I was able to add F7 into the keystroke field. On my older version, I did not have this option. It would only let me add certain keystrokes and F7 was not one of them. And, this is the default setting to open a web browser, thus Google Chrome opening when I pushed F7. I am so happy I persisted as I did not want to lose my main keyboard and did not want to use it without the SetPoint software. It has been a great day. Now, on to training. ? [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 2:13 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help The problem with my Insert F7, it is my keyboard. I have a Logitech K350 and it has options for the what they call the F key function. Nothing I do lets me bypass it. By default, F7 is set to open your web browser, thus my Google Chrome opening each time I press F7. So, I am resorting to a USB keyboard when I do testing. Thank you to those who helped. Now, on to training. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Travis Roth Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 11:25 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. As for F7 opening Chrome, it kind of sounds like your keyboard has its own shortcuts built in and they?re being triggered. This is quite common, and annoying to screen reader users. Almost every time I buy a new laptop I have to go into the BIOS and turn off the extended functionality so I can get the old function keys, F1, F2, etc., back. From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 1:15 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Yes, Robert, I played with that, too. Nothing changed. In fact, without any screen reader running, when I initiate the Insert F7, my Chrome browser opens up. It must be some setting on my system. I am not sure where to look? I do not make any custom settings in NVDA or my browser. Now, on to searching there this is set?. ? [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 11:06 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. Also, just like when you are using quick keys such as H to jump between headings, you have to have Browse mode turned on by pressing insert+space. When you hear the low pitched sound you will know you're in browse mode. The elements list will not work unless you're in browse mode. On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 1:57 PM > wrote: Hi Vicki, It seems like you might have some sort of Windows shortcut for Chrome setup. If you change the NVDA key to Capslock, do you still have the same issue? Thankx, Joe Humbert P.S. I would still recommend that you seek out more screen reader training whether it be free or paid to help increase your knowledge ? From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 12:35 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help In fact, I can?t get the Elements List to work in a PDF either. It just opens the Chrome browser, too. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:29 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Thank you, Joe, that was it for the H quick heading problem. Now, I still can?t get the Elements list (Insert F7) to work in a Word document. No matter what I do, it still opens the Google Chrome browser (it is my default browser). [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. Just a follow up: We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. Joe: This is because NVDA is in ?Forms/interaction Mode? and is passing through the keystrokes to the Microsoft Word Application so it types h. (The main function of a Word document is kind of a giant text area field). If you exit NVDA?s forms mode using NVDA Key (usually INSERT) + SPACEBAR (low pitch noise means you have switched into ?virtual reading mode?, High pitch noise means ?Forms mode?). Once you are in ?reading mode? the H key and INSERT+F7 commands will work again. See section 8. Reading Objects in NVDA?s key quick reference for more help https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvdaTracAttachments/455/keycommands%20with%20laptop%20keyboard%20layout.html#7 (possibly old link) or section 6. Browse Mode https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?#BrowseMode (this is the latest documentation) Hope this helps! Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:09 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Hi Vicki, I work for The Paciello Group (TPG). We offer many different kinds of training and our sister company is Freedom Scientific (Full disclosure: the training sessions will probably not be free). You can contact Brian Landrigan at our company, blandrigan@paciellogroup.com or call him at 603-661-0204. He can help figure out, in collaboration with you, what training you might need. To provide a high level answer, screen readers have different controls for web browsers versus other desktop software so all commands might not be cross compatible. The available screen reader functions will also depend on which mode the screen reader is in ?virtual reading mode? versus ?interaction/forms? mode. I?m happy to help where I can in my free time. Let me know if you have other questions. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you. 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The Coordinator serves as the first point of contact for the coordination and oversight of the production of print documents to an accessible electronic format. The Coordinator responds to a variety of accommodation services inquiries from students, faculty and staff concerning accessible content and provides technical and instructional support as needed. The Document Conversion Coordinator will assist the Alternate Media Coordinator in the production and distribution of captioned materials and audio descriptions. The Coordinator offers high quality customer-service in an often face-paced, dynamic environment, and works as part of a team to ensure access. Innovation and creativity is essential to stay ahead of the changing aspects of teaching and inclusive design. 1. Disability Cultural Center, Program Coordinator https://uacareers.com/postings/42133: One of very few in the nation, University of Arizona's Disability Cultural Center (DCC) provides dedicated space on campus to explore and celebrate disability community, culture and identity. The Coordinator of the DCC will supervise one graduate assistant and a small team of undergraduate interns who collectively will oversee programming, marketing and events to promote disability awareness and education to the UA community and cultivate a space for students to gather. The Coordinator will offer programming to develop student leadership skills and work with student leaders to form an ASUA recognized club. The Coordinator will develop assessments to measure usage of the Center as well as gauge campus interest in disability to ensure effective outreach. Given that the DCC is only in its second year, the Coordinator will emphasize marketing/branding and outreach with UA's cultural centers and the disability studies faculty collaborative. ** This is an Extended Temporary Employment (ETE) position. Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@email.arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Mon Oct 14 18:22:27 2019 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Mon Oct 14 18:22:44 2019 Subject: [Athen] Last call - ATHEN Call for Nominations - ATHEN Executive Board Message-ID: Hi all, One last reminder that we are looking for volunteers for the ATHEN Executive Board: Vice President Treasurer Member at Large See original announcement below. Please let me know if you are interested in any of the positions or if you know someone who might be interested. Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@email.arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 From: athen-list On Behalf Of ATHEN President Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 10:55 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] ATHEN Call for Nominations - ATHEN Executive Board Hello ATHEN members, We are requesting your nominations for the following ATHEN Executive positions: - Vice President - Treasurer - Member-at-Large representative For a general overview of the job responsibilities, please see the following web page under the heading "ARTICLE V--EXECUTIVE OFFICERS": http://athenpro.org/node/3 You are welcome to nominate yourself for these positions. If you are nominating another individual, it is highly recommended that you check with that person as to their availability. These positions are members of the ATHEN Executive Council and require some participation. All positions are for a 2 year commitment. Please submit all nominations via email to the ATHEN President, Dawn Hunziker, at: election@athenpro.org Nominations will close on Friday, September 27 at 5PM (Pacific). Voting will become available shortly thereafter. Thank you for your time. Dawn Hunziker ATHEN President -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Take care, Sean ******** Online Accessibility/UDL Specialist Contra Costa College (San Pablo, CA) Dates: Start immediately - July 30th, 2020 To apply, start here: https://www.4cdcareers.net/postings/6376 The Online Accessibility/Universal Design Specialist is a professional expert responsible for support and promotion of Contra Costa College?s efforts to create inclusive, universally designed, and accessible instructional and other online content. This position is expected to work in collaboration with faculty and staff to create quality and inclusive digital solutions or alternatives for all students and to identify effective goals and strategies in scaling such solutions across the campus. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Take care, Sean On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 9:44 AM Karlen Communications < info@karlencommunications.com> wrote: > I?m teaching accessible document design using Word and one of the > assignments for students is to create an accessible resume. > > > > I?ve searched on the WebAIM list archives for past job postings but can?t > seem to get the search string close enough to get some of the positions > posted in the past. > > > > I want some examples so that my students can see the type of language used > in job descriptions related to alternate media production, accessible > document design and so forth as well as some of the duties and skills > needed. > > > > If anyone has some past or present job descriptions in this area they can > share, please send them to me off list?or if there is an online resource my > students can use, I?d appreciate that as well. > > > > Cheers, Karen > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please let me know if you are interested > in any of the positions or if you know someone who might be interested. > > Dawn > > ~~ > Dawn Hunziker > IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources > The University of Arizona | hunziker@email.arizona.edu hunziker@email.arizona.edu> > drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu< > http://itaccessibility.arizona.edu/> > 520-626-9409 > > From: athen-list On > Behalf Of ATHEN President > Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 10:55 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: [Athen] ATHEN Call for Nominations - ATHEN Executive Board > > Hello ATHEN members, > > We are requesting your nominations for the following ATHEN Executive > positions: > - Vice President > - Treasurer > - Member-at-Large representative > > For a general overview of the job responsibilities, please see the > following web page under the heading "ARTICLE V--EXECUTIVE OFFICERS": > http://athenpro.org/node/3 > > You are welcome to nominate yourself for these positions. If you are > nominating another individual, it is highly recommended that you check with > that person as to their availability. These positions are members of the > ATHEN Executive Council and require some participation. All positions are > for a 2 year commitment. > > Please submit all nominations via email to the ATHEN President, Dawn > Hunziker, at: election@athenpro.org > > Nominations will close on Friday, September 27 at 5PM (Pacific). Voting > will become available shortly thereafter. > > Thank you for your time. > > Dawn Hunziker > ATHEN President > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Take care, Sean On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 9:44 AM Karlen Communications > wrote: I?m teaching accessible document design using Word and one of the assignments for students is to create an accessible resume. I?ve searched on the WebAIM list archives for past job postings but can?t seem to get the search string close enough to get some of the positions posted in the past. I want some examples so that my students can see the type of language used in job descriptions related to alternate media production, accessible document design and so forth as well as some of the duties and skills needed. If anyone has some past or present job descriptions in this area they can share, please send them to me off list?or if there is an online resource my students can use, I?d appreciate that as well. 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Dawn Sent from my mobile device ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@email.arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Jennifer Knott Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 5:05:44 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Last call - ATHEN Call for Nominations - ATHEN Executive Board Good Morning, The original call for nominations states the deadline ast September 27th. Is there a new deadline? ____________________________ Jennifer Knott, Ed.D. Director, Center of Online Learning Columbus State University (706) 507-8695 [https://ur.columbusstate.edu/logos/logo_files/2015/CSU_Logo_Primary2.png] [https://cool.columbusstate.edu/images/COOL-Summer-2019r.jpeg] On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 9:23 PM Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) > wrote: Hi all, One last reminder that we are looking for volunteers for the ATHEN Executive Board: Vice President Treasurer Member at Large See original announcement below. Please let me know if you are interested in any of the positions or if you know someone who might be interested. Dawn ~~ Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@email.arizona.edu> drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of ATHEN President Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 10:55 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] ATHEN Call for Nominations - ATHEN Executive Board Hello ATHEN members, We are requesting your nominations for the following ATHEN Executive positions: - Vice President - Treasurer - Member-at-Large representative For a general overview of the job responsibilities, please see the following web page under the heading "ARTICLE V--EXECUTIVE OFFICERS": http://athenpro.org/node/3 You are welcome to nominate yourself for these positions. If you are nominating another individual, it is highly recommended that you check with that person as to their availability. 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There is not a student in need at the moment, I'm just curious to see what others have done or what your ideas or suggestions would be for this type of assessment. Warm Regards, Steph Rogers Instructional Designer Center for eLearning and Connected Environments University of Central Oklahoma Phone: 405-974-3402 Email: srogers18@uco.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sarah.bourne at mass.gov Wed Oct 16 04:49:00 2019 From: sarah.bourne at mass.gov (Bourne, Sarah (MASSIT)) Date: Wed Oct 16 04:49:24 2019 Subject: [Athen] Making maps accessible - identifying counties In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The State of Minnesota has put together an excellent resource on map accessibility. It was a joint effort between their Office of Accessibility and their Geospatial Information Office. See Map Accessibility. I'm not sure if there's anything there that would help for this assignment as it seems to be an exercise in recognizing shapes and positions. To find a suitable alternative for a non-sighted person you should discuss the goal of this with the instructor. sb Sarah E. Bourne Director of IT Accessibility Executive Office of Technology Services and Security (EOTSS) 1 Ashburton Place, 8th Floor, Boston, MA 02108 Office: (617) 626-4502 sarah.bourne@mass.gov | www.mass.gov/eotss From: athen-list On Behalf Of Steph Rogers Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:07 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Making maps accessible - identifying counties Hello all, I am looking for ideas, suggestions and solutions for making maps accessible online. Context: The instructor is teaching a fully online geography class. He has map quizzes in each module. The student must look at a state map with no identifying information except the outlines of all of the counties and identify the highlighted county. I've got it nailed down on color contrast/texture for the highlighted counties, but what about making this assessment accessible to a student who is blind? There is not a student in need at the moment, I'm just curious to see what others have done or what your ideas or suggestions would be for this type of assessment. Warm Regards, Steph Rogers Instructional Designer Center for eLearning and Connected Environments University of Central Oklahoma Phone: 405-974-3402 Email: srogers18@uco.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From srogers18 at uco.edu Wed Oct 16 05:52:33 2019 From: srogers18 at uco.edu (Steph Rogers) Date: Wed Oct 16 05:53:22 2019 Subject: [Athen] Making maps accessible - identifying counties In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for the resource, Sarah! Warm Regards, Steph Rogers Instructional Designer Center for eLearning and Connected Environments University of Central Oklahoma Phone: 405-974-3402 Email: srogers18@uco.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Bourne, Sarah (MASSIT) Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 6:49 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Making maps accessible - identifying counties The State of Minnesota has put together an excellent resource on map accessibility. It was a joint effort between their Office of Accessibility and their Geospatial Information Office. See Map Accessibility. I'm not sure if there's anything there that would help for this assignment as it seems to be an exercise in recognizing shapes and positions. To find a suitable alternative for a non-sighted person you should discuss the goal of this with the instructor. sb Sarah E. Bourne Director of IT Accessibility Executive Office of Technology Services and Security (EOTSS) 1 Ashburton Place, 8th Floor, Boston, MA 02108 Office: (617) 626-4502 sarah.bourne@mass.gov | www.mass.gov/eotss From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Steph Rogers Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:07 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Making maps accessible - identifying counties Hello all, I am looking for ideas, suggestions and solutions for making maps accessible online. Context: The instructor is teaching a fully online geography class. He has map quizzes in each module. The student must look at a state map with no identifying information except the outlines of all of the counties and identify the highlighted county. I've got it nailed down on color contrast/texture for the highlighted counties, but what about making this assessment accessible to a student who is blind? There is not a student in need at the moment, I'm just curious to see what others have done or what your ideas or suggestions would be for this type of assessment. Warm Regards, Steph Rogers Instructional Designer Center for eLearning and Connected Environments University of Central Oklahoma Phone: 405-974-3402 Email: srogers18@uco.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k.weberhottleman at uconn.edu Wed Oct 16 07:01:20 2019 From: k.weberhottleman at uconn.edu (Weber-Hottleman, Kathryn) Date: Wed Oct 16 07:01:48 2019 Subject: [Athen] Accessible live chat Message-ID: Hello, Can anyone recommend an accessible live chat? We're currently using Tawk.to, but it is not keyboard accessible. Best, Kathryn Kathryn Weber-Hottleman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Services University of Connecticut| Temporary Administration Building 25 Gampel Service Drive, Unit 1138 | Storrs, CT 06269-1138 (P) 860.486.9193 Website: accessibility.its.uconn.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Wed Oct 16 07:59:41 2019 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Wed Oct 16 08:00:05 2019 Subject: [Athen] Accessible live chat In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Depends on exactly what you need. Zoom is pretty accessible, as far as using a screen reader is concerned. It's primarily for conferencing, but it incorporates live chatting features via the keyboard. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:07 AM Weber-Hottleman, Kathryn < k.weberhottleman@uconn.edu> wrote: > Hello, > > > > Can anyone recommend an accessible live chat? We?re currently using > Tawk.to, but it is not keyboard accessible. > > > > Best, > > Kathryn > > > > *Kathryn Weber-Hottleman* > > IT Accessibility Coordinator > > > > *Information Technology Services* > > University of Connecticut| Temporary Administration Building > > 25 Gampel Service Drive, Unit 1138 | Storrs, CT 06269-1138 > (P) 860.486.9193 > > Website: accessibility.its.uconn.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Wed Oct 16 10:37:48 2019 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Wed Oct 16 10:38:13 2019 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]Re: JAWS and NVDA training help In-Reply-To: <004d01d580f9$73454830$59cfd890$@karlencommunications.com> References: <002a01d58067$48dc94a0$da95bde0$@a11yeval.com> <006701d5806a$30489710$90d9c530$@a11yeval.com> <004d01d580f9$73454830$59cfd890$@karlencommunications.com> Message-ID: Keep in mind also that many laptops assign the function keys to specific actions. Pressing F7 may be a browser related command on that laptop which causes your default browser to launch. If you add the FN key to the command, you may get different results. In JAWS, you will need to turn on Quick Keys with JAWS-KEY+Z in order to use the navigation key commands such as H, T, and K. In NVDAA, you will need to turn on Brose Mode with NVDA-KEY+SPACEBAR. HTH. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:35 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Sometimes the single key, quick keys only work if you are in a Say All or reading mode for the entire document, not when you are able to edit. For example, JAWS has the same quick Keys for Headings but they are only usable if you are in SayAll...reading the entire document. Also, keep in mind that sometimes keyboard commands don't work because there is a bug although using Insert + F7 has not brought up Google stuff on my computer. Is this perhaps a keyboard command the user or IT has set to do that which conflicts with the NVDA command? Cheers, Karen From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Just a follow up: We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can't get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. Joe: This is because NVDA is in "Forms/interaction Mode" and is passing through the keystrokes to the Microsoft Word Application so it types h. (The main function of a Word document is kind of a giant text area field). If you exit NVDA's forms mode using NVDA Key (usually INSERT) + SPACEBAR (low pitch noise means you have switched into "virtual reading mode", High pitch noise means "Forms mode"). Once you are in "reading mode" the H key and INSERT+F7 commands will work again. See section 8. Reading Objects in NVDA's key quick reference for more help https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvdaTracAttachments/455/keycommands%20with%20laptop%20keyboard%20layout.html#7 (possibly old link) or section 6. Browse Mode https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?#BrowseMode (this is the latest documentation) Hope this helps! Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:09 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Hi Vicki, I work for The Paciello Group (TPG). We offer many different kinds of training and our sister company is Freedom Scientific (Full disclosure: the training sessions will probably not be free). You can contact Brian Landrigan at our company, blandrigan@paciellogroup.com or call him at 603-661-0204. He can help figure out, in collaboration with you, what training you might need. To provide a high level answer, screen readers have different controls for web browsers versus other desktop software so all commands might not be cross compatible. The available screen reader functions will also depend on which mode the screen reader is in "virtual reading mode" versus "interaction/forms" mode. I'm happy to help where I can in my free time. Let me know if you have other questions. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can't get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. 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I'm looking for a customer-facing live chat, but I agree that Zoom is great for conferencing! 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Today's Topics: 1. McGraw Hill Connect and JAWS Accessibility (Laura Loree) 2. Making maps accessible - identifying counties (Steph Rogers) 3. Re: Making maps accessible - identifying counties (Bourne, Sarah (MASSIT)) 4. Re: Making maps accessible - identifying counties (Steph Rogers) 5. Accessible live chat (Weber-Hottleman, Kathryn) 6. Re: Accessible live chat (Robert Spangler) 7. Re: [EXT]Re: JAWS and NVDA training help (Robert Beach) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 19:59:12 +0000 From: Laura Loree To: "athen-list@u.washington.edu" Subject: [Athen] McGraw Hill Connect and JAWS Accessibility Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a student who is taking courses using McGraw Hill Connect. He says he is able to navigate quizzes just fine; however, he is indicating he is not able to do the Learn Smart assignments at all. Has anyone dealt with McGraw Hill Connect and JAWS before? Are there any solutions or workarounds? Is the publisher cooperative/helpful? Laura Loree, M.A.Ed., CPACC, CTFL EIT Accessibility Manager Utah Valley University Email: laura.loree@uvu.edu Phone: 801-863-6788 Room: FL-111-F -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 20:06:54 +0000 From: Steph Rogers To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Making maps accessible - identifying counties Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello all, I am looking for ideas, suggestions and solutions for making maps accessible online. Context: The instructor is teaching a fully online geography class. He has map quizzes in each module. The student must look at a state map with no identifying information except the outlines of all of the counties and identify the highlighted county. I've got it nailed down on color contrast/texture for the highlighted counties, but what about making this assessment accessible to a student who is blind? There is not a student in need at the moment, I'm just curious to see what others have done or what your ideas or suggestions would be for this type of assessment. Warm Regards, Steph Rogers Instructional Designer Center for eLearning and Connected Environments University of Central Oklahoma Phone: 405-974-3402 Email: srogers18@uco.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 11:49:00 +0000 From: "Bourne, Sarah (MASSIT)" To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Making maps accessible - identifying counties Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The State of Minnesota has put together an excellent resource on map accessibility. It was a joint effort between their Office of Accessibility and their Geospatial Information Office. See Map Accessibility. I'm not sure if there's anything there that would help for this assignment as it seems to be an exercise in recognizing shapes and positions. To find a suitable alternative for a non-sighted person you should discuss the goal of this with the instructor. sb Sarah E. Bourne Director of IT Accessibility Executive Office of Technology Services and Security (EOTSS) 1 Ashburton Place, 8th Floor, Boston, MA 02108 Office: (617) 626-4502 sarah.bourne@mass.gov | https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.mass.gov%2Feotss&data=02%7C01%7Ck.weberhottleman%40uconn.edu%7C0d1f3060acb943acd81a08d7526b89f3%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637068494141284445&sdata=IlSDQlS183jkL0Bg35pGJwYGlAhSqPov8GWFP4hQI58%3D&reserved=0 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Steph Rogers Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:07 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Making maps accessible - identifying counties Hello all, I am looking for ideas, suggestions and solutions for making maps accessible online. Context: The instructor is teaching a fully online geography class. He has map quizzes in each module. The student must look at a state map with no identifying information except the outlines of all of the counties and identify the highlighted county. I've got it nailed down on color contrast/texture for the highlighted counties, but what about making this assessment accessible to a student who is blind? There is not a student in need at the moment, I'm just curious to see what others have done or what your ideas or suggestions would be for this type of assessment. Warm Regards, Steph Rogers Instructional Designer Center for eLearning and Connected Environments University of Central Oklahoma Phone: 405-974-3402 Email: srogers18@uco.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 12:52:33 +0000 From: Steph Rogers To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Making maps accessible - identifying counties Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thank you for the resource, Sarah! Warm Regards, Steph Rogers Instructional Designer Center for eLearning and Connected Environments University of Central Oklahoma Phone: 405-974-3402 Email: srogers18@uco.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Bourne, Sarah (MASSIT) Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 6:49 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Making maps accessible - identifying counties The State of Minnesota has put together an excellent resource on map accessibility. It was a joint effort between their Office of Accessibility and their Geospatial Information Office. See Map Accessibility. I'm not sure if there's anything there that would help for this assignment as it seems to be an exercise in recognizing shapes and positions. To find a suitable alternative for a non-sighted person you should discuss the goal of this with the instructor. sb Sarah E. Bourne Director of IT Accessibility Executive Office of Technology Services and Security (EOTSS) 1 Ashburton Place, 8th Floor, Boston, MA 02108 Office: (617) 626-4502 sarah.bourne@mass.gov | https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.mass.gov%2Feotss&data=02%7C01%7Ck.weberhottleman%40uconn.edu%7C0d1f3060acb943acd81a08d7526b89f3%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637068494141284445&sdata=IlSDQlS183jkL0Bg35pGJwYGlAhSqPov8GWFP4hQI58%3D&reserved=0 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Steph Rogers Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:07 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Making maps accessible - identifying counties Hello all, I am looking for ideas, suggestions and solutions for making maps accessible online. Context: The instructor is teaching a fully online geography class. He has map quizzes in each module. The student must look at a state map with no identifying information except the outlines of all of the counties and identify the highlighted county. I've got it nailed down on color contrast/texture for the highlighted counties, but what about making this assessment accessible to a student who is blind? There is not a student in need at the moment, I'm just curious to see what others have done or what your ideas or suggestions would be for this type of assessment. Warm Regards, Steph Rogers Instructional Designer Center for eLearning and Connected Environments University of Central Oklahoma Phone: 405-974-3402 Email: srogers18@uco.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Zoom is pretty accessible, as far as using a screen reader is concerned. It's primarily for conferencing, but it incorporates live chatting features via the keyboard. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:07 AM Weber-Hottleman, Kathryn < k.weberhottleman@uconn.edu> wrote: > Hello, > > > > Can anyone recommend an accessible live chat? We?re currently using > Tawk.to, but it is not keyboard accessible. > > > > Best, > > Kathryn > > > > *Kathryn Weber-Hottleman* > > IT Accessibility Coordinator > > > > *Information Technology Services* > > University of Connecticut| Temporary Administration Building > > 25 Gampel Service Drive, Unit 1138 | Storrs, CT 06269-1138 > (P) 860.486.9193 > > Website: accessibility.its.uconn.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailm > an12.u.washington.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fathen-list&data=02%7C > 01%7Ck.weberhottleman%40uconn.edu%7C0d1f3060acb943acd81a08d7526b89f3%7 > C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637068494141294435&sda > ta=aRmC8uef13HAUUiCT5kCBgTefz7oc9y7EMJpUvouS2A%3D&reserved=0 > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgo.udayton.edu%2Flearning&data=02%7C01%7Ck.weberhottleman%40uconn.edu%7C0d1f3060acb943acd81a08d7526b89f3%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637068494141294435&sdata=u2cRMbSoEmHjkLASzpAOcHA1%2FKuOqKm%2BhQcdxERK6nI%3D&reserved=0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 17:37:48 +0000 From: Robert Beach To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT]Re: JAWS and NVDA training help Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Keep in mind also that many laptops assign the function keys to specific actions. Pressing F7 may be a browser related command on that laptop which causes your default browser to launch. If you add the FN key to the command, you may get different results. In JAWS, you will need to turn on Quick Keys with JAWS-KEY+Z in order to use the navigation key commands such as H, T, and K. In NVDAA, you will need to turn on Brose Mode with NVDA-KEY+SPACEBAR. HTH. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: 913-288-7671 Email: rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Karlen Communications Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:35 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Sometimes the single key, quick keys only work if you are in a Say All or reading mode for the entire document, not when you are able to edit. For example, JAWS has the same quick Keys for Headings but they are only usable if you are in SayAll...reading the entire document. Also, keep in mind that sometimes keyboard commands don't work because there is a bug although using Insert + F7 has not brought up Google stuff on my computer. Is this perhaps a keyboard command the user or IT has set to do that which conflicts with the NVDA command? Cheers, Karen From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Just a follow up: We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can't get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. Joe: This is because NVDA is in "Forms/interaction Mode" and is passing through the keystrokes to the Microsoft Word Application so it types h. (The main function of a Word document is kind of a giant text area field). If you exit NVDA's forms mode using NVDA Key (usually INSERT) + SPACEBAR (low pitch noise means you have switched into "virtual reading mode", High pitch noise means "Forms mode"). Once you are in "reading mode" the H key and INSERT+F7 commands will work again. See section 8. Reading Objects in NVDA's key quick reference for more help https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nvaccess.org%2Ffiles%2FnvdaTracAttachments%2F455%2Fkeycommands%2520with%2520laptop%2520keyboard%2520layout.html%237&data=02%7C01%7Ck.weberhottleman%40uconn.edu%7C0d1f3060acb943acd81a08d7526b89f3%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637068494141294435&sdata=Wfkx2XJXX5wUQY%2BrcIkbKYYaZEio95UGAxZlvq89Lxw%3D&reserved=0 (possibly old link) or section 6. Browse Mode https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nvaccess.org%2Ffiles%2Fnvda%2Fdocumentation%2FuserGuide.html%3F%23BrowseMode&data=02%7C01%7Ck.weberhottleman%40uconn.edu%7C0d1f3060acb943acd81a08d7526b89f3%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637068494141294435&sdata=cFp%2BdmULWCGvL3S5F85TAUG3z%2FjEi9Hh%2B3ovE6aHJUU%3D&reserved=0 (this is the latest documentation) Hope this helps! Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:09 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Hi Vicki, I work for The Paciello Group (TPG). We offer many different kinds of training and our sister company is Freedom Scientific (Full disclosure: the training sessions will probably not be free). You can contact Brian Landrigan at our company, blandrigan@paciellogroup.com or call him at 603-661-0204. He can help figure out, in collaboration with you, what training you might need. To provide a high level answer, screen readers have different controls for web browsers versus other desktop software so all commands might not be cross compatible. The available screen reader functions will also depend on which mode the screen reader is in "virtual reading mode" versus "interaction/forms" mode. I'm happy to help where I can in my free time. Let me know if you have other questions. Thankx, Joe Humbert From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Walton, Vicki Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:31 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can't get it to work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it opens google instead. We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology Center 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13559 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 646 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I was typing something in Word this morning and using NVDA. My document had numbers in the margins in parenthesis, but not every paragraph had numbers. Word started automatically inserting numbers (I thought I had that pesky "feature" turned off), but NVDA didn't speak nor show those numbers on my Braille display. When I printed it a co-worker noticed all the extra numbers including a final page with numbers running down the left margin with no text. When I went back to review the document with JAWS, all the numbers "appeared" but looking at it again with NVDA, only the numbers I'd deliberately typed were displayed - none of the auto-numbering that Word so "helpfully!" inserted. This is a warning to anyone who takes an exam in word with NVDA, since if you are adding fill in the blanks, and the instructor has numbered the questions, simply pressing enter could add more numbers which would be invisible to NVDA! Auto-numbering which is unfortunately on by default can throw off the numbering of any exam as well, so I hope people turn it off when the student taking the test is a newbie! --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Fri Oct 18 10:48:52 2019 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Fri Oct 18 10:49:50 2019 Subject: [Athen] Nasty NVDA bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So to clarify, are you saying that if I use the automatic list feature, NVDA won't read the numbers that are automatically inserted upon pressing enter? That's strange, because mine does. I am on the latest version. I just did a simple test, though; I didn't use paragraphs and numbers with parentheses. I would recommend filing this bug with NVAccess so they can fix it. Thanks for letting us know! On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:42 PM Deborah Armstrong wrote: > Don?t know if this has always been the case or is just a problem with the > current version, but I wanted to share it with anyone helping students. > > > > I was typing something in Word this morning and using NVDA. My document > had numbers in the margins in parenthesis, but not every paragraph had > numbers. > > > > Word started automatically inserting numbers (I thought I had that pesky > ?feature? turned off), but NVDA didn?t speak nor show those numbers on my > Braille display. > > > > When I printed it a co-worker noticed all the extra numbers including a > final page with numbers running down the left margin with no text. > > > > When I went back to review the document with JAWS, all the numbers > ?appeared? but looking at it again with NVDA, only the numbers I?d > deliberately typed were displayed ? none of the auto-numbering that Word so > ?helpfully!? inserted. > > > > This is a warning to anyone who takes an exam in word with NVDA, since if > you are adding fill in the blanks, and the instructor has numbered the > questions, simply pressing enter could add more numbers which would be > invisible to NVDA! Auto-numbering which is unfortunately on by default can > throw off the numbering of any exam as well, so I hope people turn it off > when the student taking the test is a newbie! > > > > > > --Debee > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lgreco at berkeley.edu Fri Oct 18 11:31:38 2019 From: lgreco at berkeley.edu (Lucy GRECO) Date: Fri Oct 18 11:33:03 2019 Subject: [Athen] Nasty NVDA bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hello: i don't think this is an nvda bug er say i think its a word bug and the numbers not showing up is a problem with wair the view port is for the numbers Lucia Greco Web Accessibility Evangelist IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration University of California, Berkeley (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco http://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:58 AM Robert Spangler wrote: > So to clarify, are you saying that if I use the automatic list feature, > NVDA won't read the numbers that are automatically inserted upon pressing > enter? That's strange, because mine does. I am on the latest version. I > just did a simple test, though; I didn't use paragraphs and numbers with > parentheses. I would recommend filing this bug with NVAccess so they can > fix it. Thanks for letting us know! > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:42 PM Deborah Armstrong < > armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu> wrote: > >> Don?t know if this has always been the case or is just a problem with the >> current version, but I wanted to share it with anyone helping students. >> >> >> >> I was typing something in Word this morning and using NVDA. My document >> had numbers in the margins in parenthesis, but not every paragraph had >> numbers. >> >> >> >> Word started automatically inserting numbers (I thought I had that pesky >> ?feature? turned off), but NVDA didn?t speak nor show those numbers on my >> Braille display. >> >> >> >> When I printed it a co-worker noticed all the extra numbers including a >> final page with numbers running down the left margin with no text. >> >> >> >> When I went back to review the document with JAWS, all the numbers >> ?appeared? but looking at it again with NVDA, only the numbers I?d >> deliberately typed were displayed ? none of the auto-numbering that Word so >> ?helpfully!? inserted. >> >> >> >> This is a warning to anyone who takes an exam in word with NVDA, since if >> you are adding fill in the blanks, and the instructor has numbered the >> questions, simply pressing enter could add more numbers which would be >> invisible to NVDA! Auto-numbering which is unfortunately on by default can >> throw off the numbering of any exam as well, so I hope people turn it off >> when the student taking the test is a newbie! >> >> >> >> >> >> --Debee >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > > > -- > Robert Spangler > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > rspangler1@udayton.edu > Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 > Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) > University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 > Phone: 937-229-2066 > Fax: 937-229-3270 > Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) > Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Fri Oct 18 12:04:15 2019 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Fri Oct 18 12:04:54 2019 Subject: [Athen] Nasty NVDA bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What's the view port? Sorry but I am having trouble understanding your message. On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 2:36 PM Lucy GRECO wrote: > hello: i don't think this is an nvda bug er say i think its a word bug and > the numbers not showing up is a problem with wair the view port is for the > numbers > Lucia Greco > Web Accessibility Evangelist > IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration > University of California, Berkeley > (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco > http://webaccess.berkeley.edu > Follow me on twitter @accessaces > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:58 AM Robert Spangler > wrote: > >> So to clarify, are you saying that if I use the automatic list feature, >> NVDA won't read the numbers that are automatically inserted upon pressing >> enter? That's strange, because mine does. I am on the latest version. I >> just did a simple test, though; I didn't use paragraphs and numbers with >> parentheses. I would recommend filing this bug with NVAccess so they can >> fix it. Thanks for letting us know! >> >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:42 PM Deborah Armstrong < >> armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu> wrote: >> >>> Don?t know if this has always been the case or is just a problem with >>> the current version, but I wanted to share it with anyone helping students. >>> >>> >>> >>> I was typing something in Word this morning and using NVDA. My document >>> had numbers in the margins in parenthesis, but not every paragraph had >>> numbers. >>> >>> >>> >>> Word started automatically inserting numbers (I thought I had that pesky >>> ?feature? turned off), but NVDA didn?t speak nor show those numbers on my >>> Braille display. >>> >>> >>> >>> When I printed it a co-worker noticed all the extra numbers including a >>> final page with numbers running down the left margin with no text. >>> >>> >>> >>> When I went back to review the document with JAWS, all the numbers >>> ?appeared? but looking at it again with NVDA, only the numbers I?d >>> deliberately typed were displayed ? none of the auto-numbering that Word so >>> ?helpfully!? inserted. >>> >>> >>> >>> This is a warning to anyone who takes an exam in word with NVDA, since >>> if you are adding fill in the blanks, and the instructor has numbered the >>> questions, simply pressing enter could add more numbers which would be >>> invisible to NVDA! Auto-numbering which is unfortunately on by default can >>> throw off the numbering of any exam as well, so I hope people turn it off >>> when the student taking the test is a newbie! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --Debee >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> >> >> >> -- >> Robert Spangler >> Disability Services Technical Support Specialist >> rspangler1@udayton.edu >> Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 >> Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) >> University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 >> Phone: 937-229-2066 >> Fax: 937-229-3270 >> Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of >> hearing) >> Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Fri Oct 18 13:34:50 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Fri Oct 18 13:35:12 2019 Subject: [Athen] Nasty NVDA bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I?m not sure what she meant either, but I know I?ve used NVDA with intentionally turning automatic numbering on and it read them fine. I remember one JAWS version that didn?t read those numbers. I know both programs are working directly with word?s document object model so it could be Word weirdness as well. I?m using Word 2016 and when I had the problem last (with JAWS that time) it was Word 2010. --Debee From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 12:04 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Nasty NVDA bug What's the view port? Sorry but I am having trouble understanding your message. On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 2:36 PM Lucy GRECO > wrote: hello: i don't think this is an nvda bug er say i think its a word bug and the numbers not showing up is a problem with wair the view port is for the numbers Lucia Greco Web Accessibility Evangelist IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration University of California, Berkeley (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco http://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:58 AM Robert Spangler > wrote: So to clarify, are you saying that if I use the automatic list feature, NVDA won't read the numbers that are automatically inserted upon pressing enter? That's strange, because mine does. I am on the latest version. I just did a simple test, though; I didn't use paragraphs and numbers with parentheses. I would recommend filing this bug with NVAccess so they can fix it. Thanks for letting us know! On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:42 PM Deborah Armstrong > wrote: Don?t know if this has always been the case or is just a problem with the current version, but I wanted to share it with anyone helping students. I was typing something in Word this morning and using NVDA. My document had numbers in the margins in parenthesis, but not every paragraph had numbers. Word started automatically inserting numbers (I thought I had that pesky ?feature? turned off), but NVDA didn?t speak nor show those numbers on my Braille display. When I printed it a co-worker noticed all the extra numbers including a final page with numbers running down the left margin with no text. When I went back to review the document with JAWS, all the numbers ?appeared? but looking at it again with NVDA, only the numbers I?d deliberately typed were displayed ? none of the auto-numbering that Word so ?helpfully!? inserted. This is a warning to anyone who takes an exam in word with NVDA, since if you are adding fill in the blanks, and the instructor has numbered the questions, simply pressing enter could add more numbers which would be invisible to NVDA! Auto-numbering which is unfortunately on by default can throw off the numbering of any exam as well, so I hope people turn it off when the student taking the test is a newbie! --Debee _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Fri Oct 18 13:40:27 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Fri Oct 18 13:40:50 2019 Subject: [Athen] Accessible live chat In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Zoom would also be accessible to the dragon user because it uses your ?communications device? rather than your ?microphone? so you could talk to Dragon and Zoom separately if you do some configuration. Zoom understands your mic may not be your ?communications device?. Many other live chat programs don?t! From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 8:00 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible live chat Depends on exactly what you need. Zoom is pretty accessible, as far as using a screen reader is concerned. It's primarily for conferencing, but it incorporates live chatting features via the keyboard. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:07 AM Weber-Hottleman, Kathryn > wrote: Hello, Can anyone recommend an accessible live chat? We?re currently using Tawk.to, but it is not keyboard accessible. Best, Kathryn Kathryn Weber-Hottleman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Services University of Connecticut| Temporary Administration Building 25 Gampel Service Drive, Unit 1138 | Storrs, CT 06269-1138 (P) 860.486.9193 Website: accessibility.its.uconn.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist rspangler1@udayton.edu Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023 Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC) University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing) Web Site: http://go.udayton.edu/learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Fri Oct 18 14:20:43 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Fri Oct 18 14:21:15 2019 Subject: [Athen] Update on MySpanishLab Message-ID: I'm finishing up my fourth week with MySpanishLab using screen readers to access the materials. I reported on the challenges and successes in previous posts so this is a shorter update. I am still unable to do the drag and drop exercises in the actual lab assignments. Pearson support and our local rep claim the tester did not have any difficulties: simply press tab to navigate to an object and control to drag it. I don't know how their quality assurance folk were doing the dragging with the control key. I pointed out that control tab goes to a different browser window and was told that I should not press control and tab together. Okay, but if I am holding control to drag how do I navigate to where I want to dump the dragged object? This hasn't been clarified, and I suspect the tester is holding control while moving the mouse. It's very frustrating sending emails back and forth and not getting a rational answer out of them, except that it works and I must be doing something wrong. As for the textbook, it continues to be richly accessible. It is very visually oriented but all diagrams and photos I've encountered so far are clearly described so that exercises dependent on the photos and diagrams are easy to complete. The tutorials too are very accessible, including the drag and drop portions. Here you find the object you wish to drag something to, press alt-5, and you are now focused on the objects to drag. You tab to the one you want and press Alt-Enter. The instructions made this sound way more complicated than it actually was, once I figured it out. I am not convinced that this is the easiest way for a screen reader user to learn however. If you listen to a description of an image such as "A photo shows a man smiling" which symbolizes the word "nice" which in Spanish is "simpatico", you have the cognitive overload of the image description, the Spanish word and the English translation. I found studying a vocabulary list to be far more straightforward than working through these admittedly very accessible tutorials. I know studying languages this way is deprecated; looking at pictures keeps us from translating but if the pictures themselves need translating it kind of defeats the purpose! Besides the lab assignments and tutorials the other review activities include videos which are harde to follow; their Spanish is way too fast and I miss the visual cues that help. There are also very accessible flash cards which can be downloaded or printed or studied online. No issues there. And there's also downloadable practice audio which you can save on your local computer or phone. There are also pre-tests and post-tests you can take which so far have been completely accessible. The matching exercises use standard combo boxes and are not a problem to navigate or fix wrong answers before submitting. When working with a lab or practice test, your incorrect answers are shown and you can repeat the assignment as many times as you need to get all answers correct. This process is fully accessible and its layout is consistent so a user of speech, Braille or magnification can quickly locate any incorrect answers on a crowded page. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klatimer at udel.edu Mon Oct 21 06:36:43 2019 From: klatimer at udel.edu (Karen Latimer) Date: Mon Oct 21 06:37:14 2019 Subject: [Athen] JAWS and NVDA training help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Vicki, I'd like to introduce you to Mark Nelson from My Digital Apex who offers this type of training. You can reach him at mydigitalapex.com for more information. Karen On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 2:34 PM Walton, Vicki wrote: > Our college tests all software that is requesting to be renewed or > purchased. Our department is responsible for this task. Even though we > have the basic skills using both JAWS and NVDA, we want to improve our > skill set. We are both sighted users of these two products. > > > > We are seeking anyone who is willing to do training for us. Both basic and > advanced training. This can be remote training using Zoom video > conferencing, in person, using email or phone calls. > > > > We hit certain walls that even though a YouTube video and other > documentation tells us we are doing things correctly, we can?t get it to > work the way it is documented. For example, with NVDA, you can use the > quick heading key of H to navigate headings. In a Word document, neither > myself nor my colleague can get this to work. It just types out H. And, if > I initiate the NVDA elements list (Insert F7) while in a Word document, it > opens google instead. > > > > We have Windows 10 and use the latest versions of NVDA and JAWS 2019. > > > > Any help will be much appreciated. > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > [image: Visit the CBC Website] > > > *Vicki Walton* > > *Assistive Technology Center *509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 > 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 > > [image: Follow CBC on Facebook] > [image: Follow CBC on > Instagram] [image: Follow CBC on > Twitter] [image: Follow CBC on > YouTube] [image: Follow > CBC on Snapchat] > > [image: We All Soar Together] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- *Karen Latimer, ATP* *Assistive Technology Specialist* *Delaware Assistive Technology ?Initiative * *Center for Disabilities Studies* *461 Wyoming Rd. * *Newark, DE 19716* *302-831-7469* *www.udel.edu/cds* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Do you know of any ?accessible? software out there that does > infographics and exports tags to PDF? > > > > Any information is much appreciated! > > > > Thank you, > > > Lori Lane, M.Ed., CPACC > > IT Accessibility Specialist in Universal Design > > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu Fri Oct 25 06:59:24 2019 From: Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu (Kluesner, Bryon) Date: Fri Oct 25 06:59:52 2019 Subject: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning Message-ID: Hi all, Do any of your institutions use Linkedin Learning? If so, how is the accessibility of the product? Thanks and happy Friday! Bryon Bryon Kluesner RhD, ATACP Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 Member of Division of Enrollment Management and Student Affairs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john5214 at msu.edu Sun Oct 27 09:35:48 2019 From: john5214 at msu.edu (Johnson, Leslie) Date: Sun Oct 27 09:35:58 2019 Subject: [Athen] MI AHEAD Learning Day- Digital Accessibility in Higher Education, November 15th Message-ID: Hello, For anyone that is near Michigan or is willing to travel, I wanted to share information about MI AHEAD?s Fall Learning Day in Ann Arbor, MI. The training is November 15th, 10am-3pm, in Ann Arbor at the Washtenaw ISD, and the topic is Digital Accessibility in Higher Education. Training Topic Digital Accessibility in Higher Education Presenters Phil Deaton, Digital Information Accessibility Coordinator at University of Michigan State University Brooke Knapp, Digital Accessibility Analyst at Michigan State University Description This session will discuss strategies for bringing digital accessibility to campus and ways to implement accessibility relative to your institution or college?s scale. The session will also include a brief demonstration and overview on how to increase accessibility for the web and commonly used document types. Objectives Explore how to advocate for accessibility and how to prioritize your institution?s effort to make the work more reasonable, achievable, and focused on organizational mission. ? how to put it together ? how to come up with a strategy ? who to invite to the table ? what checkpoints to achieve ? how to implement a liaison program ? how to support faculty ? what you need to know about online course accessibility A technical demo on Word, PowerPoint, and a quick overview of web accessibility provided* *Resources will be shared to assist in identifying gaps in current processes and how to advocate for increased institutional accessibility support. Tickets are $50 for MI AHEAD members and $75 for non-members. This includes lunch from Zingermans Deli. A more detailed description of the training and registration information can be found here: https://mi-ahead.org/event/mi-ahead-fall-learning-day/ Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks!!! Leslie Johnson Ability Access Specialist Michigan State University Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 120 Bessey Hall 434 Farm Lane East Lansing, MI 48824 P: 517.884.1911 | F: 517.432.3191 John5214@msu.edu www.rcpd.msu.edu Students, employees, and faculty can schedule an in person or phone meeting using my appointment calendar. Schedule a Meeting -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Mon Oct 28 06:33:10 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Mon Oct 28 06:34:24 2019 Subject: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We are using it on our campus now. I haven't checked for accessibility, but that learning was originally Lynda.com, and that was accessible. My only concern about LinkedIn Learning is that the courses you take are noted PUBLICLY, which means anyone looking at your profile will see what classes you are taking or have taken. This gives me a whole new level of squick, to be honest. Lynda.com courses were private. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 7:59 AM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' Subject: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning Hi all, Do any of your institutions use Linkedin Learning? If so, how is the accessibility of the product? Thanks and happy Friday! Bryon Bryon Kluesner RhD, ATACP Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 Member of Division of Enrollment Management and Student Affairs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Lynda.com courses were private. > > > > *Susan Kelmer* > > *Alternate Format Production Program Manager* > > *Disability Services* > > *University of Colorado Boulder* > > *303-735-4836* > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Kluesner, Bryon > *Sent:* Friday, October 25, 2019 7:59 AM > *To:* 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > *Subject:* [Athen] LinkedIn Learning > > > > Hi all, > > > > Do any of your institutions use Linkedin Learning? If so, how is the > accessibility of the product? > > > > Thanks and happy Friday! > > > > Bryon > > > > Bryon Kluesner RhD, ATACP > > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resource Center > > University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > > 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 > > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > 423-425-5251 > > > > Member of Division of Enrollment Management and Student Affairs > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Mon Oct 28 07:02:26 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Mon Oct 28 07:02:51 2019 Subject: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Right now, it is public, no way to mark it to not show, since it took over Lynda.com. I?m not sure I?m ever going to take a course again, now, because of this. I have send them an email suggesting that they allow us to mark things as private again. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Ella Epshteyn Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 7:58 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning Hi Susan, It's been a while since I took a LinkedIn course... but I believe there is a checkbox when you complete to add it to your LinkedIn profile (at which point it becomes public). I remember this one giving me a pause. Thanks, Ella Ella Epshteyn, EdD Founder/CEO ATTECS, LLC On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:35 AM Susan Kelmer > wrote: We are using it on our campus now. I haven?t checked for accessibility, but that learning was originally Lynda.com, and that was accessible. My only concern about LinkedIn Learning is that the courses you take are noted PUBLICLY, which means anyone looking at your profile will see what classes you are taking or have taken. This gives me a whole new level of squick, to be honest. Lynda.com courses were private. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 7:59 AM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning Hi all, Do any of your institutions use Linkedin Learning? If so, how is the accessibility of the product? Thanks and happy Friday! 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Lynda.com courses were private. *Susan Kelmer* *Alternate Format Production Program Manager* *Disability Services* *University of Colorado Boulder* *303-735-4836* =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D. Accessibility IT Consultant ejp10@psu.edu The 300 Building, 112 304 West College Avenue University Park, PA 16802 accessibility.psu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Mon Oct 28 13:08:07 2019 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Mon Oct 28 13:08:35 2019 Subject: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning In-Reply-To: <4281220B-6DD5-4967-8FF3-D135EDC6CAE4@psu.edu> References: <4281220B-6DD5-4967-8FF3-D135EDC6CAE4@psu.edu> Message-ID: On our campus, we were using Lynda.com, which was then eaten up by LinkedIn Learning. There is no option for us to not disclose our courses. I first heard of the problem through my local library, which ALSO provided Lynda.com courses, and ceased providing them because of this privacy component because it moved to LinkedIn and you needed a LinkedIn account to use what was Lynda.com. I'm exercising extreme caution until there is a true fix. It is disappointing that this has happened, and I am surprised that LinkedIn didn't maintain this privacy from Lynda.com. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Pyatt, Elizabeth J Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 1:30 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning Hello: When I logged in to Linked In Learning, I was given the option to link courses to my account, but I believe I declined. https://linkedinlearning.psu.edu/faqs/ Elizabeth On Oct 28, 2019, at 3:00 PM, athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu wrote: We are using it on our campus now. I haven?t checked for accessibility, but that learning was originally Lynda.com, and that was accessible. My only concern about LinkedIn Learning is that the courses you take are noted PUBLICLY, which means anyone looking at your profile will see what classes you are taking or have taken. This gives me a whole new level of squick, to be honest. Lynda.com courses were private. *Susan Kelmer* *Alternate Format Production Program Manager* *Disability Services* *University of Colorado Boulder* *303-735-4836* =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D. Accessibility IT Consultant ejp10@psu.edu The 300 Building, 112 304 West College Avenue University Park, PA 16802 accessibility.psu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From crobinson at ggc.edu Tue Oct 29 06:36:27 2019 From: crobinson at ggc.edu (Christine Robinson) Date: Tue Oct 29 06:36:37 2019 Subject: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all - I know that there have been privacy concerns about LinkedIn Learning (LIL), BUT be aware that it is not required to connect a LinkedIn profile to a LIL account that is paid for by a campus license. We asked our LinkedIn rep about it before we did the migration from Lynda.com. If you have already connected a LinkedIn profile to a campus LIL account, you can disconnect it again in order to keep your viewing history private. Even with a connected account, you have the option to not post your certificates of completion to LinkedIn. See your campus LIL administrator, or contact your LinkedIn rep, for help. Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence Georgia Gwinnett College | 678-407-5193 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:02 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning Right now, it is public, no way to mark it to not show, since it took over Lynda.com. I?m not sure I?m ever going to take a course again, now, because of this. I have send them an email suggesting that they allow us to mark things as private again. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Ella Epshteyn Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 7:58 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning Hi Susan, It's been a while since I took a LinkedIn course... but I believe there is a checkbox when you complete to add it to your LinkedIn profile (at which point it becomes public). I remember this one giving me a pause. Thanks, Ella Ella Epshteyn, EdD Founder/CEO ATTECS, LLC On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:35 AM Susan Kelmer > wrote: We are using it on our campus now. I haven?t checked for accessibility, but that learning was originally Lynda.com, and that was accessible. My only concern about LinkedIn Learning is that the courses you take are noted PUBLICLY, which means anyone looking at your profile will see what classes you are taking or have taken. This gives me a whole new level of squick, to be honest. Lynda.com courses were private. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder 303-735-4836 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 7:59 AM To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' > Subject: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning Hi all, Do any of your institutions use Linkedin Learning? If so, how is the accessibility of the product? Thanks and happy Friday! Bryon Bryon Kluesner RhD, ATACP Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 Member of Division of Enrollment Management and Student Affairs _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sherylb at uw.edu Tue Oct 29 08:03:27 2019 From: sherylb at uw.edu (Sheryl E. Burgstahler) Date: Tue Oct 29 08:04:39 2019 Subject: [Athen] ABBYY FindReader Message-ID: <9D1D055D-E353-4F47-94FB-2CFC566CCC03@uw.edu> This was asked by someone on the AHEAD Tech SIG list. If you send me a response, I will forward the message. Hello! I am wondering if anyone is currently uses ABBYY FindReader as part of their altmedia/document remediation process? If so, how are you using it? Do you have any training resources or tutorials you recommend? Thanks. Sheryl Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT Affiliate Professor, Education University of Washington, Box 354842 Seattle, WA 98195 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb sherylb@uw.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at ccctechcenter.org Tue Oct 29 08:30:13 2019 From: skeegan at ccctechcenter.org (Sean Keegan) Date: Tue Oct 29 08:30:34 2019 Subject: [Athen] ABBYY FindReader In-Reply-To: <9D1D055D-E353-4F47-94FB-2CFC566CCC03@uw.edu> References: <9D1D055D-E353-4F47-94FB-2CFC566CCC03@uw.edu> Message-ID: Hi Sheryl, We actually just developed and released a micro-course on PDF workflow strategies for alternate media specialists. It is designed to be an introductory course for those who are just getting started in the field, so it may not have all the details the person is seeking, but may be something to check out. There are some demo videos of using Abbyy Finereader as part of the course. It is a free, self-paced course we host in our Canvas instance (so the person may need to create a Canvas account). Here is the URL to the course page: https://catalog.onlinenetworkofeducators.org/browse/accessibility/courses/pdf-workflow-strategies (we have more in the development pipeline, but this is a start) Take care, Sean On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 8:05 AM Sheryl E. Burgstahler wrote: > This was asked by someone on the AHEAD Tech SIG list. If you send me a > response, I will forward the message. > > Hello! I am wondering if anyone is currently uses ABBYY FindReader as part > of their altmedia/document remediation process? If so, how are you using > it? Do you have any training resources or tutorials you recommend? > > > Thanks. > Sheryl > > Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D. > Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT > Affiliate Professor, Education > University of Washington, Box 354842 > Seattle, WA 98195 > 206-543-0622 FAX 206-221-4171 > http://staff.washington.edu/sherylb > sherylb@uw.edu > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rsthompson2 at ua.edu Tue Oct 29 08:41:09 2019 From: rsthompson2 at ua.edu (Thompson, Rachel) Date: Tue Oct 29 08:41:39 2019 Subject: [Athen] Supadu? Message-ID: <793c00f64f404e8c980acf2e98db9c27@ua.edu> Our university press is hiring Supadu to make their new website. It is apparently a big player in the academic press/publishing world. Have you worked with them or reviewed their accessibility? Their main home page has some issues, it seems. Rachel Dr. Rachel S. Thompson Director, Center for Instructional Technology Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dkrahmer at colgate.edu Wed Oct 30 08:53:19 2019 From: dkrahmer at colgate.edu (Debbie Krahmer) Date: Wed Oct 30 08:54:12 2019 Subject: [Athen] alt text for scanned images of book pages In-Reply-To: <8070fee7eb8e4a92b9e010a0518a4efb@ua.edu> References: <8070fee7eb8e4a92b9e010a0518a4efb@ua.edu> Message-ID: Hi Melissa, I don't know if you ever received any responses, but one thing that came to mind was a project being done (years and years ago) at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, where they were converting handwritten manuscripts of poems to machine-readable text, including all the edits and erasures and marginalia and stuff. Brian Pytlik Zillig was heavily involved in it, so he might be able to talk about a good way of representing margalia in a machine-readable format? (it's a long shot, but I thought it might help.) Thanks, D. ______________ Debbie Krahmer Preferred Pronouns: My name/no pronouns Associate Professor in the Libraries Accessible Technology & Government Documents Librarian 304 Case-Geyer Colgate University 315-228-6592 dkrahmer@colgate.edu On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 10:11 AM Green, Melissa wrote: > Happy Friday, ATHENites! ATHENians? > > > > A campus partner has reached out to us with an alt text question, and we?d > like to hear your thoughts. They host a digital humanities project, Mill > Marginalia , that centers around scanned > images of book pages that serve to document notes taken in the margins. > Here?s an example: Institutionum Logicarum Libri Duo, Burgersdicius Franco > > > > > How would you approach handling alternative text for such images? Do you > think the function of the visual is described within the context or > surroundings of the image itself? Are you aware of accessible approaches to > similar projects that we might share? > > > > Thanks so much, and happy Friday! > > > > *Melissa Green *(she/her/hers) > > Technology Accessibility Specialist > > Center for Instructional Technology/Office of Information Technology > *The University of Alabama * > A204C Gordon Palmer Hall > Box 870346 > Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 > Phone *205-348-8548 <205-348-8548>* > *mfgreen1@ua.edu * | *http://accessibility.ua.edu > * > > [image: University of Alabama] > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The LinkedInLearning admin at your campus can ask that it be set to either: a) force users to connect their LinkedIn Learning account to their LinkedIn profile b) allow users to connect their LinkedIn Learning account to their LinkedIn profile (if you do not choose to do so immediately, you are given very frequent reminders asking you to connect and there are empty boxes on the LinkedIn Learning home page that remind you that there would be content recommendations there tailored to you if you just connected to your LinkedIn profile c) not offer the option to connect the accounts The LinkedIn reps strongly encourage you to have the users connect their accounts: their argument is that it's better for the users to get individualized recommendations and to be able to display on their LinkedIn profile that they have completed particular LinkedIn Learning courses. They would very much like users to have entered skills into their LinkedIn profile as they say that it will help employers find them by using keyword searches. However, connecting the profiles means that the use of LinkedIn Learning is then under the generic LinkedIn terms of service for regular users, not the specific-to-LinkedIn Learning terms that universities have individually negotiated as part of the contracts. Linkedin's position is that if the user has a LinkedIn page then they're already covered by the generic terms for that service, so it's no big deal if their usage of LinkedIn Learning also falls under those generic terms. My position is that the institution entered into a contractual relationship with Lynda/LinkedIn Learning with negotiated terms that do not change for the period of the contract, while LinkedIn can change the generic terms of service at any time. I don't feel comfortable offering LinkedIn Learning as a university-endorsed service without having some more control/knowledge about the terms of use. I asked to have the ability to connect the accounts turned off. Best, Jenn Stevens (she, her, hers ) Director, Instructional Technology Group 403C Walker Building Emerson College | 120 Boylston St | Boston, MA 02116 (617) 824-3093 On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 3:03 PM < athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 19:29:59 +0000 > From: "Pyatt, Elizabeth J" > To: "athen-list@u.washington.edu" > Subject: Re: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning > Message-ID: <4281220B-6DD5-4967-8FF3-D135EDC6CAE4@psu.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello: > > When I logged in to Linked In Learning, I was given the option to link > courses to my account, but I believe I declined. > > https://linkedinlearning.psu.edu/faqs/ > > > Elizabeth > > On Oct 28, 2019, at 3:00 PM, athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu > wrote: > > We are using it on our campus now. I haven?t checked for accessibility, > but that learning was originally Lynda.com > > >, > and that was accessible. > > > > My only concern about LinkedIn Learning is that the courses you take are > noted PUBLICLY, which means anyone looking at your profile will see what > classes you are taking or have taken. This gives me a whole new level of > squick, to be honest. Lynda.com > > > > courses were private. > > > > *Susan Kelmer* > > *Alternate Format Production Program Manager* > > *Disability Services* > > *University of Colorado Boulder* > > *303-735-4836* > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D. > Accessibility IT Consultant > ejp10@psu.edu > > The 300 Building, 112 > 304 West College Avenue > University Park, PA 16802 > accessibility.psu.edu > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20191028/5a4151bb/attachment-0001.html > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 20:08:07 +0000 > From: Susan Kelmer > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning > Message-ID: > < > DM6PR03MB41532142B96469BA740E4D6AFB660@DM6PR03MB4153.namprd03.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On our campus, we were using Lynda.com > , > which was then eaten up by LinkedIn Learning. There is no option for us to > not disclose our courses. I first heard of the problem through my local > library, which ALSO provided Lynda.com > > courses, and ceased providing them because of this privacy component > because it moved to LinkedIn and you needed a LinkedIn account to use what > was Lynda.com > > . > > I'm exercising extreme caution until there is a true fix. It is > disappointing that this has happened, and I am surprised that LinkedIn > didn't maintain this privacy from Lynda.com > > . > > Susan Kelmer > Alternate Format Production Program Manager > Disability Services > University of Colorado Boulder > 303-735-4836 > > > > From: athen-list On > Behalf Of Pyatt, Elizabeth J > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 1:30 PM > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: Re: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning > > Hello: > > When I logged in to Linked In Learning, I was given the option to link > courses to my account, but I believe I declined. > > https://linkedinlearning.psu.edu/faqs/ > > > Elizabeth > > > On Oct 28, 2019, at 3:00 PM, athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu > wrote: > > We are using it on our campus now. I haven?t checked for accessibility, > but that learning was originally Lynda.com > > >, > and that was accessible. > > > > My only concern about LinkedIn Learning is that the courses you take are > noted PUBLICLY, which means anyone looking at your profile will see what > classes you are taking or have taken. This gives me a whole new level of > squick, to be honest. Lynda.com > > > > courses were private. > > > > *Susan Kelmer* > > *Alternate Format Production Program Manager* > > *Disability Services* > > *University of Colorado Boulder* > > *303-735-4836* > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D. > Accessibility IT Consultant > ejp10@psu.edu > > The 300 Building, 112 > 304 West College Avenue > University Park, PA 16802 > accessibility.psu.edu > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 13:36:27 +0000 > From: Christine Robinson > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning > Message-ID: > < > DM6PR04MB520940E78B9BCC49BCF71EC9AA610@DM6PR04MB5209.namprd04.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi all - > > I know that there have been privacy concerns about LinkedIn Learning > (LIL), BUT be aware that it is not required to connect a LinkedIn profile > to a LIL account that is paid for by a campus license. We asked our > LinkedIn rep about it before we did the migration from Lynda.com > . > If you have already connected a LinkedIn profile to a campus LIL account, > you can disconnect it again in order to keep your viewing history private. > Even with a connected account, you have the option to not post your > certificates of completion to LinkedIn. See your campus LIL administrator, > or contact your LinkedIn rep, for help. > > Christine Robinson | Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching > Excellence > Georgia Gwinnett College | 678-407-5193 > > From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:02 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning > > Right now, it is public, no way to mark it to not show, since it took over > Lynda.com > . > I?m not sure I?m ever going to take a course again, now, because of this. I > have send them an email suggesting that they allow us to mark things as > private again. > > Susan Kelmer > Alternate Format Production Program Manager > Disability Services > University of Colorado Boulder > 303-735-4836 > > > > From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Ella Epshteyn > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 7:58 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning > > Hi Susan, > > It's been a while since I took a LinkedIn course... but I believe there is > a checkbox when you complete to add it to your LinkedIn profile (at which > point it becomes public). I remember this one giving me a pause. > > Thanks, > > Ella > > Ella Epshteyn, EdD > Founder/CEO > ATTECS, LLC< > https://secure-web.cisco.com/19ekDsn5NlPzy_BMf3tSa17Bipt1jRdXrmCs4HBCbkA9NJp9BinpwuRm8JwzArWM9s3KjIGNdirGqVAGeBmLeXz-aUCq3uWoHmyo545AAgogRiQ3_bweE3Mlc5r8dPnQ4vuK3kbaGOthWMnulu904G-G8_05Vv8OL7dNpNXOA0AB36rUzruG3kI9CY2nJMX4kdWXCCxFVDqfeGGXQjQGUoHnqL9yP05SNswq5kII8XLpQeCoNNefP0bBeJlVcWBrcwLb_SVGz4kfvbqFjgWdCb0oi65U9TSPXVft12e6egzUJV8h5AmyX_7qOau67Lg56kJPG0EqvbwdtRSY223cAnzstN7TayTyRDJfqaYCYAD6mBjF4PHiRsbEl6atdjnFfngnqpsSLpcB7vPeShTndskeFz-26cYdTt0m8YU1AzCorJOzYuWR3ULyr4CLHWZod4fBxEbg0cTyWIswt3VB5vw/https://www.attecenter.com/ > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:35 AM Susan Kelmer > wrote: > We are using it on our campus now. I haven?t checked for accessibility, > but that learning was originally Lynda.com > , > and that was accessible. > > My only concern about LinkedIn Learning is that the courses you take are > noted PUBLICLY, which means anyone looking at your profile will see what > classes you are taking or have taken. This gives me a whole new level of > squick, to be honest. Lynda.com > > courses were private. > > Susan Kelmer > Alternate Format Production Program Manager > Disability Services > University of Colorado Boulder > 303-735-4836 > > > > From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Kluesner, > Bryon > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 7:59 AM > To: 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: [Athen] LinkedIn Learning > > Hi all, > > Do any of your institutions use Linkedin Learning? If so, how is the > accessibility of the product? > > Thanks and happy Friday! > > Bryon > > Bryon Kluesner RhD, ATACP > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > 423-425-5251 > > Member of Division of Enrollment Management and Student Affairs< > https://www.utc.edu/enrollment-management-student-affairs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu> > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20191029/b318df69/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Wed Oct 30 14:15:54 2019 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Wed Oct 30 14:16:50 2019 Subject: [Athen] My letter to Pearson support Message-ID: I admit I'm on a tirade to get Pearson to clean up their act. If they want to sell us "born accessible" textbooks they better damn sure make them accessible! I wrote their support the following email just now. Be aware this is an ongoing case where they aware of the textbook and where I've regularly reported access issues with their exercises in My Spanish Lab: Please forward this to the person at Pearson who is working on this case number. I have located three access issues so far in the Mosaicos textbook. In general, the textbook is wonderfully accessible and as a screen reader user, I've been able to fully participate in class using the accessible version found in MySpanishLab under "accessible resources". However, these three issues made assignments difficult or impossible. In all instances more details in the ddescriptions would be required for the student to successfully complete the exercises. On page 70: "A map shows North America, Central America and South America with countries and nationalities labeled on it. " The problem here is that several of the labs depend on the student's ability to correctly spell those nationalities labeled on the map. I did find the nationalities listed at the end of the chapter in the vocabulary section, so it was a minor issue. On page 91: A screenshot shows the chat conversation between Camila and Marisa. In this case, the exercise immediately following the conversation: "Pi?nsalo. Select the correct option(s) to complete each statement or question, based on Marisa and Camila's conversation." assumes the student has read the chat conversation pictured in the above screen shot. On page 97, "A screenshot shows a web page titled "Amigos sin fronteras". That's the only description given. The exercise is in reading comprehension and this image description isn't sufficient for the student to complete the accompanying chart or answer the questions in exercise 2-44immediately following the screen shot. It appears your describer mindlessly went through the text describing all graphics without considering whether the text in a screen shot was relevant to completing an accompanying exercise. I've seen this problem as well with accounting textbooks from Pearson which contain screen shots of spreadsheets. The student needs the data in the spreadsheet to complete an accounting lab, but the description gives just the title of the spreadsheet. A good solution here for both accounting and foreign languages would be to simply offer downloadable files of the text that's contained within images. What frustrates me more than anything else is that Pearson has no organized way for users to report these problems. I would happily fill in a web form each time I encountered one so it could be fixed for future visually impaired students! --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From solowoniukr at macewan.ca Wed Oct 30 14:42:33 2019 From: solowoniukr at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Wed Oct 30 14:42:45 2019 Subject: [Athen] Accessible course syllabi template? Message-ID: Hi everyone, Is anyone using an accessible course syllabi template they'd be willing to share with us so we could modify it for our own use. We have instructors who create their syllabi using the tab key in place of tables, and this makes for a not very accessible syllabus. Thanks for any help or ideas. Russell Russell Solowoniuk AT Educational Assistant, Services to Students with Disabilities MacEwan University 7-198 D4, 10700-104 Ave. Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca T: 780-497-5826 F: 780-497-4018 macewan.ca [MacEwan Logo] This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Please consider the environment before printing this email We acknowledge that the land on which we gather in Treaty Six Territory is the traditional gathering place for many Indigenous people. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I recently came across the following helpful resources when creating a syllabus for my own course: Accessible Syllabus (Tulane University) https://www.accessiblesyllabus.com Make a More Inclusive Syllabus with Tulane?s Accessible Syllabus Project https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/make-a-more-inclusive-syllabus-with-tulanes-accessible-syllabus-project/62386 Accessible Syllabus Template (Temple University) https://accessibility.temple.edu/how-materials/accessible-materials/accessible-syllabus-template Includes a downloadable "Template for Creating an Accessible Syllabus" in Word Accessible Syllabus (University of Minnesota) https://accessibility.umn.edu/instructors/accessible-syllabus Hope these help, Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net > On Oct 30, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Is anyone using an accessible course syllabi template they?d be willing to share with us so we could modify it for our own use. We have instructors who create their syllabi using the tab key in place of tables, and this makes for a not very accessible syllabus. > > Thanks for any help or ideas. > > Russell > > > Russell Solowoniuk > AT Educational Assistant, Services to Students with Disabilities > MacEwan University > 7-198 D4, 10700-104 Ave. > Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 > E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca > T: 780-497-5826 > F: 780-497-4018 > macewan.ca > > This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. > Please consider the environment before printing this email > > We acknowledge that the land on which we gather in Treaty Six Territory is the traditional gathering place for many Indigenous people. We honour and respect the history, languages, ceremonies and culture of the First Nations, M?tis and Inuit who call this territory home. > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neal.sorensen at mnsu.edu Thu Oct 31 05:48:45 2019 From: neal.sorensen at mnsu.edu (Sorensen, Neal B) Date: Thu Oct 31 05:49:04 2019 Subject: [Athen] My letter to Pearson support In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Go Debee go! I am a full supporter of taking publishers to task (especially Pearson). Pearson's practices right with accessibility are very disorganized. It would be fine if the accessible books, such as those on VitalSource, were accessible and they offered them instead of the PDF. It seems every time I request one on ATN nowadays they tell me its on VitalSource, so just get it there. I offered this to one student who respectfully declined saying he hated VitalSource books! Pearson will only improve if we take them to task and challenge their methods and production. Neal Sorensen (pronouns: he, him, his) Accessibility Resources Minnesota State University, Mankato 132 Memorial Library Mankato, MN 56001 Phone: (507) 389-5242 Fax: (507) 389-1199 www.mnsu.edu/access [cid:image001.jpg@01D58FBF.9EFDDB20] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply email so that our address record can be corrected. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 4:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] My letter to Pearson support I admit I'm on a tirade to get Pearson to clean up their act. If they want to sell us "born accessible" textbooks they better damn sure make them accessible! I wrote their support the following email just now. Be aware this is an ongoing case where they aware of the textbook and where I've regularly reported access issues with their exercises in My Spanish Lab: Please forward this to the person at Pearson who is working on this case number. I have located three access issues so far in the Mosaicos textbook. In general, the textbook is wonderfully accessible and as a screen reader user, I've been able to fully participate in class using the accessible version found in MySpanishLab under "accessible resources". However, these three issues made assignments difficult or impossible. In all instances more details in the ddescriptions would be required for the student to successfully complete the exercises. On page 70: "A map shows North America, Central America and South America with countries and nationalities labeled on it. " The problem here is that several of the labs depend on the student's ability to correctly spell those nationalities labeled on the map. I did find the nationalities listed at the end of the chapter in the vocabulary section, so it was a minor issue. On page 91: A screenshot shows the chat conversation between Camila and Marisa. In this case, the exercise immediately following the conversation: "Pi?nsalo. Select the correct option(s) to complete each statement or question, based on Marisa and Camila's conversation." assumes the student has read the chat conversation pictured in the above screen shot. On page 97, "A screenshot shows a web page titled "Amigos sin fronteras". That's the only description given. The exercise is in reading comprehension and this image description isn't sufficient for the student to complete the accompanying chart or answer the questions in exercise 2-44immediately following the screen shot. It appears your describer mindlessly went through the text describing all graphics without considering whether the text in a screen shot was relevant to completing an accompanying exercise. I've seen this problem as well with accounting textbooks from Pearson which contain screen shots of spreadsheets. The student needs the data in the spreadsheet to complete an accounting lab, but the description gives just the title of the spreadsheet. A good solution here for both accounting and foreign languages would be to simply offer downloadable files of the text that's contained within images. What frustrates me more than anything else is that Pearson has no organized way for users to report these problems. I would happily fill in a web form each time I encountered one so it could be fixed for future visually impaired students! --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 7621 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From adietrich at cornell.edu Thu Oct 31 05:56:53 2019 From: adietrich at cornell.edu (Andrea L. Dietrich) Date: Thu Oct 31 05:56:57 2019 Subject: [Athen] Microphone for classroom recording In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We have at least one student using one of these. https://www.amazon.com/Samson-Mic-Portable-Condenser-Microphone/dp/B001R76D42. Bonus, it?s super cheap. :) -Andi :) From: athen-list On Behalf Of Jay Wilson Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 6:33 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Microphone for classroom recording Hello, We're looking at options for microphones for in-class recording for note-taking purposes (recording with a phone or computer). What has worked for your students? Jay Wilson, M.S.W. Senior Access Consultant Disability Resource Center - Student Access UMN - Twin Cities Pronouns: He/him/his [https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1MmOgmewB86FM03iTQVFKLd96k8W9aFI-&revid=0BykXpZHARD12ZURYT1NScWpqZ2lMalFTSnJnaFlCcmRMV0M4PQ] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From solowoniukr at macewan.ca Thu Oct 31 07:03:22 2019 From: solowoniukr at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Thu Oct 31 07:03:48 2019 Subject: [Athen] Accessible course syllabi template? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks so much Shelley! I?ll check out these resources. Have a great day, Russell From: athen-list On Behalf Of Shelley Haven Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 6:01 PM To: ATHEN Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible course syllabi template? I recently came across the following helpful resources when creating a syllabus for my own course: Accessible Syllabus (Tulane University) https://www.accessiblesyllabus.com Make a More Inclusive Syllabus with Tulane?s Accessible Syllabus Project https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/make-a-more-inclusive-syllabus-with-tulanes-accessible-syllabus-project/62386 Accessible Syllabus Template (Temple University) https://accessibility.temple.edu/how-materials/accessible-materials/accessible-syllabus-template Includes a downloadable "Template for Creating an Accessible Syllabus" in Word Accessible Syllabus (University of Minnesota) https://accessibility.umn.edu/instructors/accessible-syllabus Hope these help, Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net On Oct 30, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Russell Solowoniuk > wrote: Hi everyone, Is anyone using an accessible course syllabi template they?d be willing to share with us so we could modify it for our own use. We have instructors who create their syllabi using the tab key in place of tables, and this makes for a not very accessible syllabus. Thanks for any help or ideas. Russell Russell Solowoniuk AT Educational Assistant, Services to Students with Disabilities MacEwan University 7-198 D4, 10700-104 Ave. Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca T: 780-497-5826 F: 780-497-4018 macewan.ca This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Please consider the environment before printing this email We acknowledge that the land on which we gather in Treaty Six Territory is the traditional gathering place for many Indigenous people. We honour and respect the history, languages, ceremonies and culture of the First Nations, M?tis and Inuit who call this territory home. _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wils1627 at umn.edu Thu Oct 31 10:36:44 2019 From: wils1627 at umn.edu (Jay Wilson) Date: Thu Oct 31 10:37:14 2019 Subject: [Athen] Microphone for classroom recording In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks! That looks like a great option with its multiple settings and price. *Jay Wilson, **M.S.W.* Senior Access Consultant *Disability Resource Center - Student Access * *UMN *- Twin Cities Pronouns : He/him/his On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 8:01 AM Andrea L. Dietrich wrote: > We have at least one student using one of these. > https://www.amazon.com/Samson-Mic-Portable-Condenser-Microphone/dp/B001R76D42. > Bonus, it?s super cheap. :) > > > > -Andi :) > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Jay Wilson > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 30, 2019 6:33 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] Microphone for classroom recording > > > > Hello, > > We're looking at options for microphones for in-class recording for > note-taking purposes (recording with a phone or computer). What has worked > for your students? > > > > *Jay Wilson, M.S.W.* > > Senior Access Consultant > > *Disability Resource Center > - Student Access > * > > *UMN *- Twin Cities > > Pronouns : He/him/his > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunziker at email.arizona.edu Thu Oct 31 12:01:53 2019 From: hunziker at email.arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Thu Oct 31 12:02:20 2019 Subject: [Athen] Dragon vs Microsoft Dictate Message-ID: Hi all, We often have students request voice input/recognition for exam accommodations. We were relying on Dragon until we discovered and implemented the Dictate option within Microsoft Word. The Dictate option worked great because it was easy to find and use, didn't require another software to have open for exams and it worked for pretty much anyone that used it, in a way they are familiar with - turn it on and talk. Now, for a few hiccups: 1. The plugin for Office 2016 is no longer available and no longer works 2. The option is not available for Office 2019 3. Office 365 has it but Internet access is required to use the feature (as we all know, not a good choice for exam situations). 4. MS says to use the Dictation (Windows Speech Recognition) built into Windows 10 but this still has the same issues with recognition results that I've seen in the past. So, we are back to the planning stage and wanted to reach out to see what is being used in other units for exams and voice input. Thoughts? 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(10% discount for ATHEN & AHEAD members ) *Virtual Program Highlights* (select title links for more information) *Pre-Conference* Lab: *Creating Accessible Digital Documents in MS Office *, Kristi Elmore, Systems Analyst, Iowa State University Extension and Outreach, et al *Acquiring Accessible IT Products for your Campus* , Cheryl Pruitt, Director, Accessible Technology Initiative, California University Chancellor?s Office, et al *YOU CAN Create Accessible Math for Students with Print Disabilities *, Susan Kelmer, Alternate Format Access Coordinator, University of Colorado Boulder *Main Conference* *Accessibility and Universal Design for Online Courses ? making the practice practicable, and a bit less scary *, Carey Hamburg, Senior Instructional Designer, University of Louisiana at Lafayette *Authoring Documents with Accessibility in Mind* , Paul Rayius, Director of Training, CommonLook *Commonly Seen Accessibility Errors *, Becky Gibson, Sr. Accessibility Strategist, Knowbility *Using the Microsoft Accessibility Checkers to Optimize Document Accessibility *, Karen McCall, Senior Advisor, Accessible Document Design, Open Access Technologies *The Great PDF Purge* , Crystal Tenan, IT Accessibility Coordinator, NC State University *The Velvet Hammer: Accessible Procurement Buy-In and Pushback at Cal State San Bernardino *, Leon McNaught, Accessibility Coordinator, CSU San Bernardino *Building an Accessible Online Course: Best Practices & Principles *, George Joeckel, Web Accessibility Specialist, Utah State University / WebAIM *Bookshare, AccessText and Alternate Media Centers: Sources to Obtain Alternative Formats *, Dawn Evans, AccessText Network Coordinator, Center for Inclusive Design & Innovation, et al And over 18 more! 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