[Athen] CSUN & Coronavirus

[Bourne, Sarah (MASSIT)]

On their registration page, it says, "Please be advised that registering for the CSUN Conference denotes that you have read and agree to comply with the Registration Policies.
[snip]
All Registrations are non-transferable and substitutions are not permitted.
[snip]
There are no refunds for no-shows."

People calling are being told there are no refunds.

sb
Sarah E. Bourne
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Howard,

So far, it's been silence. I emailed them directly, and I'm still waiting to hear back.

Best,

Michele


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On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 10:55 AM Howard Kramer <hkramer at ahead.org<mailto:hkramer at ahead.org>> wrote:
Reluctantly, I have cancelled my trip also. Tough decision. Does anyone know what their response has been regarding refunds or credits?

-Howard

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 10:13 AM Lucy GRECO <lgreco at berkeley.edu<mailto:lgreco at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
HELLO: I DECIDED   LAST NIGHT TO  CANSLE AS WELL. MY CO PRESENTORS AT LAST CHECK ARE STILL GOING BUT WE ARE NO  MATTOR WHAT WE DO GOING TO OFFER THE CONTENT IN A VERTUAL WAY LATER THIS YEAR. I AM SAD TO HERE THAT CSUN WILL NOT  CANSAL THEM SELVES AND FEEL FOR ANY ONE THAT IS LOSING MONEY ON THIS CHOICE LUCY
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On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 7:33 AM David Andrews <dandrews920 at comcast.net<mailto:dandrews920 at comcast.net>> wrote:
If you go to the csun conference main page, there is stuff there. It hasn't been updated since Wednesday.  I am told that cancelations are on the schedule addendum, but haven't looked it up yet. I read elsewhere that 120 sessions have already been canceled, but don't know if this is true.

Dave

At 04:14 PM 3/4/2020, you wrote:
Me too. How do we find out about additional cancellations if they aren't informing paid attendees?Â
K

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 3:23 PM Million, Carrie <CMillion at dvc.edu<mailto:CMillion at dvc.edu>> wrote:

Howard,

I am signed up to attend, but was unaware of the cancellation of exhibitors.  Are sessions being cancelled too?Â

Carrie Million
Assistive Tech Specialist
Diablo Valley College

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Today's Topics:

   1. Accessability of Blackboard Ultra (Norwich, Lorraine S)
   2. CSUN & Coronavirus (Howard Kramer)


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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 22:36:36 +0000
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Dear All,

Have any of you looked at or worked with Blackboard Ultra and tested the  accessibility.  Any feedback or information you can share would be great.

Thanks

Lorraine


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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 12:46:02 -0700
From: Howard Kramer <hkramer at ahead.org<mailto:hkramer at ahead.org>>
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Hello All:

I see quite a number of companies - Deque, Microsoft, Verizon, Pearson, Amazon, Adobe, CapitolOne - have pulled out of attending CSUN because of Coronavirus. And the latest cancellation is Teach Access.

A WAI working group meeting I was scheduled to attend has also been cancelled.

Just gauging other folks thoughts on this as I contemplate whether to change my plans.

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