[Athen] subtitles vs captions

Deborah Armstrong armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu
Tue Oct 20 13:58:43 PDT 2020


When I asked about technical differences, I meant were different techniques used to interleave them in the video? I know what they are but not technically how they are "injected" and if I can eject them in to a transcript.


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Hello and good afternoon!

Subtitles and captions aren't really technically the same. Closed captions are the verbatim text representation of standalone audio content or audio content in videos. Subtitles represent the language specific translation of the audio content from the language of the original published work. The terms are used interchangeably but are different in purpose and usage. For example, my brothers and I have watched Kung Fu movies as kids and always appreciated reading the subtitles -for the ones that were not dubbed. I believe Aegisub subtitle editor. maybe useful. I haven't used it for ripping titles, however.

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1. Is it possible to extract subtitles (Deborah Armstrong)
2. Re: Is it possible to extract subtitles (Stager, Catherine)


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... from a foreign film so that I have a transcript in English?

I had some software on my work PC that I believe does this, but I'm still sheltering in place so cannot exactly remember what I have there.

I also remember someone in our deaf services department doing this for a blind student several years ago, but can't remember exactly how or with what software it was done.

Are captions and subtitles technically the same thing?

--Debee

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Captions and subtitles are different, (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fwww.w3.org*2Fwiki*2FVTT_Concepts*23Different_types_of_VTT_tracks_and_their_structures&data=04*7C01*7Cndburgessrodriguez*40waketech.edu*7C0ebc898632094fed44e408d874627ea8*7C16cc8ad984fe481db9b048e7758c41aa*7C0*7C0*7C637387313667115810*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C1000&sdata=EtkVP2r1qdAXMTpPFm0FaQLczF6kUM1C8n8kQQmIER8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!A-B3JKCz!WIe5C4iYTWHys2abtodMfV_n2k6SfIwzCTStH8diNtxyUlrRMHMxizqZg3BozpNOyqM84w$ ) but frequently the terms are used interchangeably. Subtitles do not contain the added information for access to sounds within a video.
Captions and subtitles both will be in a timed text format - commonly a .vtt file. If you can access the vtt, or other timed text format files, you can get the text.
Hope that is helpful.

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Cath

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... from a foreign film so that I have a transcript in English?

I had some software on my work PC that I believe does this, but I'm still sheltering in place so cannot exactly remember what I have there.

I also remember someone in our deaf services department doing this for a blind student several years ago, but can't remember exactly how or with what software it was done.

Are captions and subtitles technically the same thing?

--Debee

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