[Athen] Archive.org question

Deborah Armstrong armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu
Tue Sep 29 08:25:50 PDT 2020

Yay! Works. And archive.org has a lot of stuff, including textbooks.

You can apply for disability access, but it turns out you don't have to. You can create an account which lets you borrow for 14 days - no account, you can only borrow for an hour.

If you either borrow a book or have disability access, you can download either Daisy (which appears to only play on the Stream and other players that can take a BARD key and play text-only Daisy), or you can download the digital editions (pdf) versions.

If you are a member of Bookshare, BARD or Learning Ally you can apply for disability access and get accepted immediately as it auto-logs in to their sites with your password for verification. But the Daisy opens only on playhers with the BARD private key.
For your students with a BARD key and suitable player, the Daisy is the way to go. It's digital audio only. That's how I mostly read for recreation. But for anyone who needs to see the book, you'll need another format. Looks like there are some of the books in epub, but most do have a PDF download.

It's not a PDF you get though: it's a file called"URLLink.acsm" which authorizes you to download only within Adobe digital editions, which is free and used by many online bookstores and libraries. Thank goodness I read a lot; I already had the needed tools.

Once you fire up editions and verify the book looks OK, you now go in to your documents folder, subfolder My Digital Editions and find the book. Then if you have Codex installed, you can right-click and choose Remove DRM. Presto, you now have a file that opens in K3000!

There are other drm-removal tools; I like Codex because it's accessible.

Codex is legal because it only removes DRM for books you legally can access. And because you can distribute them to other disabled students via copyright exceptions in the law you should have no concerns doing this.

It's so cool to have another source for finding books. Search at:

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Well I'm making progress - luckily I do love challenges and George, thank you so much.

I downloaded several textbooks that looked interesting in Daisy and stuck them on my stream. They did indeed play because as a disabled person myself I have a BARD key. But of course, this doesn't fix things for my students; it just verifies this key thing works fine.

And, they only play on the stream. I cannot open the files anywhere else, because I can't put a BARD key on a player that runs on Windows or the mac. I'll have to try them on my iPHONE with BARD mobile.

But my students need there books, so I had to stop goofing off. I downloaded the format for Adobe digital editions, and I can open and read it. Now I just have to run it through Codex to zap the copy protection and my student should be able to open it in K3000!


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This is complicated, but here you go:

It was encoded using the NLS public key. So you need a player that has the NLS private key installed. This means that a player can decode the information and present it. However, if you have an audio only player that plays audio files, then it cannot do anything with the text files.

I tested this way back when using a Victor Stream that has an EPUB reader. It worked fine. However, you are not going to be able to convert this title with what is available. I think there is perhaps one or two NLS authorized players that could work.

It is poorly designed, and I made these observations. They did this, because NLS qualifies the people who can get titles available through the copyright exception, and the Internet Library does not have the facilities to manage individual user copyright exception authorizations.


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I had used archive.org for recreation but never before to download textbooks.

I am finding several textbooks my students need there.

I have been granted disability access, but even before that, I could download the books I wanted in Daisy. However I got this message when I tried to open the files:
"The content of this book is protected. To read this book, you must use a device that has the appropriate key installed"

Now I have a learning ally and a BARD key installed on all of our Daisy players plus all my personal players here at home.

But I have three questions:
1) These books are etext and the players that need keys are audio only. How is this key thing supposed to work?
2) Even if I do get a key, how am I supposed to convert this file to the format my students need and/or want? The key is for a player, not a converter. Was I supposed to download in a different format?
3) And how do I get a key, anyway?


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