From Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu Thu Apr 1 09:43:13 2021 From: Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu (Stager, Catherine) Date: Thu Apr 1 09:43:40 2021 Subject: [Athen] Live Caption in Chrome now works on any device In-Reply-To: References: <24538c9c15e0467295e6c48dff5d3e2f@frontrange.edu> Message-ID: I know the capability to save the transcripts on the Pixel relies on using the app - you can save up to three days afterwards, but I have not yet found a way to save from Chrome. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 4:18 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Live Caption in Chrome now works on any device CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Thank you for sharing, Cath! Now - a question about this - is there a way to save the captions as a file after the fact? This way it could be used as an initial transcript to be edited and posted with the media later? Dawn Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Stager, Catherine > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:02 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Cc: 'athes@lists.colorado.edu' > Subject: [EXT][Athen] Live Caption in Chrome now works on any device External Email I had been using Live Caption via my Pixel, and I am glad to learn that it is now available in any Chrome deployment. Find the Live Caption setting under Chrome > Settings > Advanced > Accessibility > Live Caption. The audio does not need to be in a video The option to customize the caption size and appearance is available as well. According to Google, this will even work when the content is muted or being played offline. Best regards, Cath Catherine M. Stager Assistive Technology Specialist Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu (720) 336-1245 [Front Range Community College - Boulder County Campus] Disability Support Services - Assistive Technology Check out our Getting Started Guides for At Home Support! https://bit.ly/GettingStartedGuidesOverview https://bit.ly/GettingStartedAtHome -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My Question: To have employees create accessible PDFs from their Office documents, do they need to have the desktop version or will the online application work? We have Adobe Pro licensing, so obviously the plugin wouldn't be available in the online Office stuff.... would that make a difference? I know that anyone using a screen reader and possibly other assistive technology will need a desktop application just simply because the online versions are a bear to work with when using a screen reader - not necessarily impossible but certainly not nice. Thank you! Dawn Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chagnon at pubcom.com Fri Apr 2 09:12:18 2021 From: chagnon at pubcom.com (chagnon@pubcom.com) Date: Fri Apr 2 09:12:34 2021 Subject: [Athen] Fw: Office365 - Online vs Desktop applications for accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008b01d727da$f4c194c0$de44be40$@pubcom.com> I can give a bit of insight on this. Although I don't use online versions of any software, I know that the online 365 Word will not have the Adobe PDF Maker plug-in, which is a highly preferred method of making accessible PDFs from MS Office (better controls, better more accurate conversion to the PDF/UA-1 standard). So you'll make a PDF from online 365 Word by either of these methods: 1. Upload the Word document to Adobe's "Document Cloud" where it will be converted to a PDF, or 2. Use Word's internal conversion utility, Save As / File Type PDF. However, this utility has fewer controls and is manufactured by a 3rd company for Microsoft. I can't give more details due to NDAs with the companies involved, but I can give you my opinion - neither method above would be my first choice for making accessible PDFs from a word processing document. Remember the old adage. you get what you pay for, and "free" doesn't buy you much! - - - Bevi Chagnon | Designer, Accessibility Technician | Chagnon@PubCom.com - - - PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting . training . development . design . sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes - - - Latest blog-newsletter - Simple Guide to Writing Alt-Text From: athen-list On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 11:34 AM To: ATHEN Subject: [Athen] Fw: Office365 - Online vs Desktop applications for accessibility Thank goodness, it's Friday! I don't know what keystroke I hit but my message was sent before I was done! Here's the completed thoughts/questions: Hi all, We are working to change licensing for Office365 applications at the University of Arizona. They would like to see most employees use the online applications (free) rather than a desktop application (requires a license). My Question: To have employees create accessible PDFs from their Office documents, do they need to have the desktop version or will the online application work? We have Adobe Pro licensing, so obviously the plugin wouldn't be available in the online Office stuff.... would that make a difference? I know that anyone using a screen reader and possibly other assistive technology will need a desktop application just simply because the online versions are a bear to work with when using a screen reader - not necessarily impossible but certainly not nice. Thank you! 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URL: From kndeibel at syr.edu Fri Apr 2 10:40:08 2021 From: kndeibel at syr.edu (Kate Deibel) Date: Fri Apr 2 10:40:56 2021 Subject: [Athen] Fw: Office365 - Online vs Desktop applications for accessibility In-Reply-To: <008b01d727da$f4c194c0$de44be40$@pubcom.com> References: <008b01d727da$f4c194c0$de44be40$@pubcom.com> Message-ID: I agree that 365's built-in export to/save as PDFs is not as good as the Adobe plug-in's tool, for a lot of the documents that are being generated in PowerPoint or Word, it's more than sufficient in my experience. The majority of documents or slide decks rarely get into anything complex. If the Office accessibility checker reports all good, I'm willing to bet that most documents will not need any further remediation. And any such concerns could be handled by providing both the PDF and original source version of the files. Another thought from this would be that the push to Office 365 online would merit increased calls/upgrade requests to improve Office's built-in accessibility export features. I went ahead and made one such suggestion on the UserVoice for Word: https://word.uservoice.com/forums/271331-word-for-the-web/suggestions/43058607-improve-accessible-pdf-export-to-be-on-par-with-th Katherine (Kate) Deibel | PhD Inclusion & Accessibility Librarian Syracuse University Libraries T 315.443.7178 kndeibel@syr.edu 222 Waverly Ave., Syracuse, NY 13244 Syracuse University From: athen-list On Behalf Of chagnon@pubcom.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 12:12 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Fw: Office365 - Online vs Desktop applications for accessibility I can give a bit of insight on this. Although I don't use online versions of any software, I know that the online 365 Word will not have the Adobe PDF Maker plug-in, which is a highly preferred method of making accessible PDFs from MS Office (better controls, better more accurate conversion to the PDF/UA-1 standard). So you'll make a PDF from online 365 Word by either of these methods: 1. Upload the Word document to Adobe's "Document Cloud" where it will be converted to a PDF, or 2. Use Word's internal conversion utility, Save As / File Type PDF. However, this utility has fewer controls and is manufactured by a 3rd company for Microsoft. I can't give more details due to NDAs with the companies involved, but I can give you my opinion - neither method above would be my first choice for making accessible PDFs from a word processing document. Remember the old adage... you get what you pay for, and "free" doesn't buy you much! - - - Bevi Chagnon | Designer, Accessibility Technician | Chagnon@PubCom.com - - - PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting * training * development * design * sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes - - - Latest blog-newsletter - Simple Guide to Writing Alt-Text From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 11:34 AM To: ATHEN > Subject: [Athen] Fw: Office365 - Online vs Desktop applications for accessibility Thank goodness, it's Friday! I don't know what keystroke I hit but my message was sent before I was done! Here's the completed thoughts/questions: Hi all, We are working to change licensing for Office365 applications at the University of Arizona. They would like to see most employees use the online applications (free) rather than a desktop application (requires a license). My Question: To have employees create accessible PDFs from their Office documents, do they need to have the desktop version or will the online application work? We have Adobe Pro licensing, so obviously the plugin wouldn't be available in the online Office stuff.... would that make a difference? I know that anyone using a screen reader and possibly other assistive technology will need a desktop application just simply because the online versions are a bear to work with when using a screen reader - not necessarily impossible but certainly not nice. Thank you! Dawn Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunziker at arizona.edu Fri Apr 2 10:41:09 2021 From: hunziker at arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Fri Apr 2 10:41:26 2021 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Fw: Office365 - Online vs Desktop applications for accessibility In-Reply-To: <008b01d727da$f4c194c0$de44be40$@pubcom.com> References: , <008b01d727da$f4c194c0$de44be40$@pubcom.com> Message-ID: Hi Bevi, This is exactly what I was worried about and looking for confirmation on - thank you! I'll work with our IT unit to have an option for those who are creating PDFs. Have a great day! Dawn Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of chagnon@pubcom.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 9:12 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Fw: Office365 - Online vs Desktop applications for accessibility External Email I can give a bit of insight on this. Although I don?t use online versions of any software, I know that the online 365 Word will not have the Adobe PDF Maker plug-in, which is a highly preferred method of making accessible PDFs from MS Office (better controls, better more accurate conversion to the PDF/UA-1 standard). So you?ll make a PDF from online 365 Word by either of these methods: 1. Upload the Word document to Adobe?s ?Document Cloud? where it will be converted to a PDF, or 2. Use Word?s internal conversion utility, Save As / File Type PDF. However, this utility has fewer controls and is manufactured by a 3rd company for Microsoft. I can?t give more details due to NDAs with the companies involved, but I can give you my opinion ? neither method above would be my first choice for making accessible PDFs from a word processing document. Remember the old adage? you get what you pay for, and ?free? doesn?t buy you much! ? ? ? Bevi Chagnon | Designer, Accessibility Technician | Chagnon@PubCom.com ? ? ? PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting ? training ? development ? design ? sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes ? ? ? Latest blog-newsletter ? Simple Guide to Writing Alt-Text From: athen-list On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 11:34 AM To: ATHEN Subject: [Athen] Fw: Office365 - Online vs Desktop applications for accessibility Thank goodness, it's Friday! I don't know what keystroke I hit but my message was sent before I was done! Here's the completed thoughts/questions: Hi all, We are working to change licensing for Office365 applications at the University of Arizona. They would like to see most employees use the online applications (free) rather than a desktop application (requires a license). My Question: To have employees create accessible PDFs from their Office documents, do they need to have the desktop version or will the online application work? We have Adobe Pro licensing, so obviously the plugin wouldn't be available in the online Office stuff.... would that make a difference? I know that anyone using a screen reader and possibly other assistive technology will need a desktop application just simply because the online versions are a bear to work with when using a screen reader - not necessarily impossible but certainly not nice. Thank you! 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I don't know what keystroke I hit but my > message was sent before I was done! > > Here's the completed thoughts/questions: > > Hi all, > > We are working to change licensing for Office365 applications at the > University of Arizona. They would like to see most employees use the online > applications (free) rather than a desktop application (requires a license). > > My Question: To have employees create accessible PDFs from their Office > documents, do they need to have the desktop version or will the online > application work? We have Adobe Pro licensing, so obviously the plugin > wouldn't be available in the online Office stuff.... would that make a > difference? > > I know that anyone using a screen reader and possibly other assistive > technology will need a desktop application just simply because the online > versions are a bear to work with when using a screen reader - not > necessarily impossible but certainly not nice. > > Thank you! > > Dawn > > Dawn Hunziker > > IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources > > The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu > drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu > > 520-626-9409 > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- *Alternate Media Supervisor* Disabled Students' Program University of California, Berkeley https://dsp.berkeley.edu/ (510) 642-0329 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Some folks in our institution are interested in utilizing a virtual event platform software for upcoming events. We have looked at Remo, but this does not work well with NVDA/JAWS. Has anyone had experiences with similar software that is more accessible that may meet our needs? Thank you, Dionna -- Dionna Camp, MS Accessible Technology Specialist Digital Accessibility at LBCC CFAR Presentation Repository Technology Tools for Success Linn-Benton Community College Center for Accessibility Resources Red Cedar Hall 102 6500 Pacific Blvd. SW | Albany, OR 97321 541-917-4690 [Image removed by sender.] [Image removed by sender. vcs] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From tristenbreitenfeldt at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 19:59:28 2021 From: tristenbreitenfeldt at gmail.com (tristenbreitenfeldt@gmail.com) Date: Sat Apr 3 19:59:56 2021 Subject: [Athen] Fw: Office365 - Online vs Desktop applications for accessibility Message-ID: <001a01d728fe$87a85840$96f908c0$@gmail.com> I think the bigger issue to consider is that employees with disabilities, (especially screen reader users) would have a very difficult (if not impossible) time using the online Office applications. I am a blind screen reader user and I used to be an accessibility tester; some of the applications I was testing were the online Microsoft Office applications. They are not great for accessibility or usability, and I fear that if your campus decided to use only the online Office suite, they would be excluding a significant population of employees, which could leave the college open to legal action. That's just my two cents. I am strongly in favor of finding ways to save money, but cost-saving measures that are not accessible will eventually backfire in one way or another. Another option might be providing incentives to employees to use their own (personal Office subscription/installation key on their work machine. That way, the college would not need to pay for as many Office 365 subscriptions.) I realize that this answer may not be a popular answer, but when weighing the annual cost of Office 365 against potential lawsuits and negative publicity, I'm pretty sure that keeping the desktop versions of Office will prove to be much less expensive in the long run. Sincerely, Tristen Breitenfeldt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: athen-list On Behalf Of Tyler Shepard Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 3:59 PM To: athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] looking for a book good afternoon all, I have a friend who is seeking a textbook for one of his classes called a past in perspective by james feder eighth ed. He is currently using a web version of the book that is not very friendly with JAWS. Does anyone have any other options he could use? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8916 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu Mon Apr 5 10:26:55 2021 From: Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu (Stager, Catherine) Date: Mon Apr 5 10:27:27 2021 Subject: [Athen] looking for a book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9e34b60ea1c2438eaea147a42c6694b4@frontrange.edu> Archive.org has a DAISY version at https://archive.org/details/pastinperspectiv00fede . You can verify the need for access for people with print disabilities through an account at Bookshare or BARD or your state?s Talking Book Library. There is also a direct email to request -the info can be found at https://archive.org/details/printdisabled&tab=about. Best regards, Cath Catherine M. Stager Assistive Technology Specialist Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu (720) 336-1245 [Front Range Community College - Boulder County Campus] Disability Support Services - Assistive Technology Check out our Getting Started Guides for At Home Support! https://bit.ly/GettingStartedGuidesOverview https://bit.ly/GettingStartedAtHome From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:42 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] looking for a book CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. This is an Oxford book, you should be able to request files through them. They are very responsive. Let me know if you need their form and the appropriate email address to send it to. *Please note: I am currently working remotely, so can be reached by email.* Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Tyler Shepard Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 3:59 PM To: athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] looking for a book good afternoon all, I have a friend who is seeking a textbook for one of his classes called a past in perspective by james feder eighth ed. He is currently using a web version of the book that is not very friendly with JAWS. 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URL: From athenpresident at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 11:12:15 2021 From: athenpresident at gmail.com (ATHEN President) Date: Tue Apr 6 11:12:37 2021 Subject: [Athen] Fwd: 2021 Teresa Haven Scholarship for Students with Disabilities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, A reminder that the deadline for applying for the Teresa Haven Scholarship for Students with Disabilities is coming soon! Please make sure to complete applications by April 15, 2021. Happy Tuesday! Dawn Hunziker ATHEN President ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: ATHEN President Date: Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 6:01 PM Subject: 2021 Teresa Haven Scholarship for Students with Disabilities To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Hello ATHEN Members, ATHEN is happy to announce that the 2021 Teresa Haven Scholarship for Students with Disabilities is now open for nominations and applications. More information, including scholarship criteria and submission links, can be found on ATHEN's Teresa Haven Scholarship page . Teresa Haven, Ph.D., was a long-time ATHEN contributor and member of the Executive Council. She was a passionate advocate for student equity and diversity in higher education. In remembrance of her dedication and service to students, the ATHEN membership voted unanimously to create a scholarship in her memory. Thank you to the Executive Council and to those who have volunteered to participate on the 2021 Teresa Haven Scholarship Selection Committee. Best, Dawn Hunziker ATHEN President -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Doug.Mantle at kings.uwo.ca Tue Apr 6 12:54:11 2021 From: Doug.Mantle at kings.uwo.ca (Doug Mantle) Date: Tue Apr 6 12:54:52 2021 Subject: [Athen] FW: [N.O.A.T.] REMINDER - You Are Invited - 3 Part CNIB Frontier Accessibility Vision Showcase - N.O.A.T. Webinar - April 9, 16, and 23 @ 1:30 pm Eastern In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2B7730A6FD2DFE499F4A8A1099627D8D745E405D@kucexch01.kings.kucits.ca> Good day! Passing along this invite to attend an upcoming 3-part vision series hosted by The Network of Assistive Technologists. These sessions feature information about the CNIB, their various programs, and their partners Eschenbach, Humanware, and Vispero. Although the services and programs of the CNIB will be of interest to everyone, their relevance is specific to Canada ? The content from Eschenbach, Humanware and Vispero will be of interest regardless of geography. Look forward to seeing you online! Take care, Doug Don't miss out on this upcoming three part series ---> Part One is this Friday, April 9th. Register Now! Please join us for our upcoming Three Part Vision Showcase with CNIB Frontier Accessibility, featuring Eschenbach, Humanware, and Vispero On Friday, April 9, 16, and 23, 2021 at 1:30 pm Eastern, join Andrea Voss from CNIB Frontier Accessibility as she leads a three part series showcasing CNIB Frontier Accessibility and their various programs, plus their partnerships with Eschenbach, Humanware, and Vispero. Meet the key players and learn about available products and services for Canadians who are blind or partially sighted. APRIL 9 Join Andrea Voss from CNIB Frontier Accessibility as she discusses their role within the social enterprise branch of the CNIB. Learn about the accessibility solutions they provide and understand the benefits of doing business with them. In today?s presentation their partnership with Eschenbach will be highlighted. Ryan Heeney, National Sales Manager for Eschenbach, will provide an overview of their product line and their exclusive partnership with CNIB. My Hy, from CNIB Smartlife will also join the presentation to discuss how Smartlife can support post secondary students and how their technology requirements can be fulfilled. APRIL 16 In today?s session with CNIB Frontier Accessibility Andrea Voss will highlight a couple of service partnerships with Be My Eyes and LEARNstyle. Michel Pepin, national sales director from Humanware will also present. Discover the innovations from the new line of braille displays that they offer, perfect for a post secondary setting. They will also review products specific to education and the partnership with CNIB. Join Mary Ann Bent, Commercial Accessibility Deployment Specialist from the Frontier Accessibility team. Mary Ann Bent will discuss the navigation and wayfinding services available. Learn all about beacon positioning systems, accessible apps and LiDAR mapping. APRIL 23 In the last of a three part series, join Andrea Voss as she introduces featured technology partner, Vispero. Officially formed in 2016, Vispero?s brands include Freedom Scientific, Optelec and Enhanced Vision. Join Corneliu Hoza, Canadian Managing Director, as he provides an update on technology offered for education under the Vispero umbrella. Also joining us from CNIB Frontier Accessibility is Bob Dodd. Bob is the Manager of Digital Accessibility and will present on the solutions available. Learn about Frontier?s phased approach to assisting you with your digital accessibility goals. Please ensure you register for each session individually to ensure that you receive the links to attend each session For more details and to register, please visit the N.O.A.T. Events Website. We look forward to seeing you online for all three sessions - Friday, April 9, 16, and 23, 2021 at 1:30 pm Eastern If you have any questions, please reach out. Take care! 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URL: From hunziker at arizona.edu Tue Apr 6 18:23:44 2021 From: hunziker at arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Tue Apr 6 18:24:03 2021 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Fw: Office365 - Online vs Desktop applications for accessibility In-Reply-To: <001a01d728fe$87a85840$96f908c0$@gmail.com> References: <001a01d728fe$87a85840$96f908c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you, everyone, for the responses and confirmations! I'm starting discussions to verify that those who need the Office Desktop applications for disability-related reasons, or to create accessible content, have that access. I don't think this will be a concern, I just need to make sure it's a question we ask to make sure we provision the correct license option. Have a good evening! Dawn Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of tristenbreitenfeldt@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 7:59 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Fw: Office365 - Online vs Desktop applications for accessibility External Email I think the bigger issue to consider is that employees with disabilities, (especially screen reader users) would have a very difficult (if not impossible) time using the online Office applications. I am a blind screen reader user and I used to be an accessibility tester; some of the applications I was testing were the online Microsoft Office applications. They are not great for accessibility or usability, and I fear that if your campus decided to use only the online Office suite, they would be excluding a significant population of employees, which could leave the college open to legal action. That?s just my two cents? I am strongly in favor of finding ways to save money, but cost-saving measures that are not accessible will eventually backfire in one way or another. Another option might be providing incentives to employees to use their own (personal Office subscription/installation key on their work machine. That way, the college would not need to pay for as many Office 365 subscriptions.) I realize that this answer may not be a popular answer, but when weighing the annual cost of Office 365 against potential lawsuits and negative publicity, I?m pretty sure that keeping the desktop versions of Office will prove to be much less expensive in the long run. 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As an NVDA user who uses the Google online products i had to learn how to work around NVDA to make them work. It is a hassle. I would advise keeping the desktop option open. On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 6:24 PM Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) < hunziker@arizona.edu> wrote: > Thank you, everyone, for the responses and confirmations! I'm starting > discussions to verify that those who need the Office Desktop applications > for disability-related reasons, or to create accessible content, have that > access. I don't think this will be a concern, I just need to make sure it's > a question we ask to make sure we provision the correct license option. > > Have a good evening! > Dawn > > Dawn Hunziker > > IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources > > The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu > drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu > > 520-626-9409 > > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of tristenbreitenfeldt@gmail.com > *Sent:* Saturday, April 3, 2021 7:59 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [EXT]Re: [Athen] Fw: Office365 - Online vs Desktop > applications for accessibility > > > *External Email* > > I think the bigger issue to consider is that employees with disabilities, > (especially screen reader users) would have a very difficult (if not > impossible) time using the online Office applications. I am a blind > screen reader user and I used to be an accessibility tester; some of the > applications I was testing were the online Microsoft Office applications. > They are not great for accessibility or usability, and I fear that if your > campus decided to use only the online Office suite, they would be excluding > a significant population of employees, which could leave the college open > to legal action. That?s just my two cents? > > I am strongly in favor of finding ways to save money, but cost-saving > measures that are not accessible will eventually backfire in one way or > another. Another option might be providing incentives to employees to use > their own (personal Office subscription/installation key on their work > machine. That way, the college would not need to pay for as many Office > 365 subscriptions.) > > I realize that this answer may not be a popular answer, but when weighing > the annual cost of Office 365 against potential lawsuits and negative > publicity, I?m pretty sure that keeping the desktop versions of Office will > prove to be much less expensive in the long run. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Tristen Breitenfeldt > > [image: JAWS Certified, 2019] > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There is a way to do this but I cannot recall it at > this time. > As an NVDA user who uses the Google online products i had to learn how to > work around NVDA to make them work. It is a hassle. I would advise keeping > the desktop option open. > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 6:24 PM Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) < > hunziker@arizona.edu> wrote: > >> Thank you, everyone, for the responses and confirmations! I'm starting >> discussions to verify that those who need the Office Desktop applications >> for disability-related reasons, or to create accessible content, have that >> access. I don't think this will be a concern, I just need to make sure it's >> a question we ask to make sure we provision the correct license option. >> >> Have a good evening! >> Dawn >> >> Dawn Hunziker >> >> IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources >> >> The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu >> drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu >> >> 520-626-9409 >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* athen-list on >> behalf of tristenbreitenfeldt@gmail.com >> *Sent:* Saturday, April 3, 2021 7:59 PM >> *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu >> *Subject:* [EXT]Re: [Athen] Fw: Office365 - Online vs Desktop >> applications for accessibility >> >> >> *External Email* >> >> I think the bigger issue to consider is that employees with disabilities, >> (especially screen reader users) would have a very difficult (if not >> impossible) time using the online Office applications. I am a blind >> screen reader user and I used to be an accessibility tester; some of the >> applications I was testing were the online Microsoft Office applications. >> They are not great for accessibility or usability, and I fear that if your >> campus decided to use only the online Office suite, they would be excluding >> a significant population of employees, which could leave the college open >> to legal action. That?s just my two cents? >> >> I am strongly in favor of finding ways to save money, but cost-saving >> measures that are not accessible will eventually backfire in one way or >> another. Another option might be providing incentives to employees to use >> their own (personal Office subscription/installation key on their work >> machine. That way, the college would not need to pay for as many Office >> 365 subscriptions.) >> >> I realize that this answer may not be a popular answer, but when weighing >> the annual cost of Office 365 against potential lawsuits and negative >> publicity, I?m pretty sure that keeping the desktop versions of Office will >> prove to be much less expensive in the long run. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> >> Tristen Breitenfeldt >> >> [image: JAWS Certified, 2019] >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist, Office of Learning Resources (OLR) University of Dayton Ryan C. 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We don?t do a lot of conversions to MP3, but, if possible, I?d be interested in seeing that video on how you do it? Thanks again, Russell From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Joseph Polizzotto MA Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 11:15 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Creating MP3s? EXTERNAL: Use caution. Hi Russell: I have found that most software programs that produce MP3 files are lacking in one of the following features: - voice changes (for foreign languages) - natural pausing at the end of paragraphs, page numbers; pitch changes for parenthetical content - ability to read math content - metadata for MP3s - MP3 bookmarks for easier navigation For all of these reasons, we have gone away from using the tools that the vendors provide and created a script that uses Balabolka's command-line tool + Microsoft's native voices to produce MP3s. Note: There are a few dependencies you would need to install to use it, such as Git for Windows (to recognize all the script's commands), Lame (to convert WAV to MP3), id3 (to add metadata), and FFMPEG (to add a Cover image to the MP3). Those are necessary to use the script while others (MathJax-SRE and Aeneas) are for advanced features (math and MP3 bookmark creation). If you are interested, I can put it on Github and share a link to a video about its usage. Joseph On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 2:10 PM Russell Solowoniuk > wrote: Thanks Tristen. I totally forgot that OpenBook had that feature. Looks like we've got a few options. Take care, Russell -----Original Message----- From: athen-list > On Behalf Of tristenbreitenfeldt@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 2:04 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] Creating MP3s? EXTERNAL: Use caution. Hi Russell, You can also use OpenBook 9.0 for converting text to mp3 files. Simply import or scan your document into OpenBook, then select the Save to mp3 option in the File menu. Hope that helps. Tristen Breitenfeldt -----Original Message----- From: athen-list > On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:01 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 182, Issue 8 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman12.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Creating MP3s? (Russell Solowoniuk) 2. Re: Qualitative research software (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 23:00:21 +0000 From: Russell Solowoniuk > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Creating MP3s? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi everyone, We need to convert a textbook to an MP3 format for a student. We haven't done this in quite a few years. In the past we used TextAloud with good results, but that was a long time ago. Is TextAloud still the best tool for converting a Word document to MP3 format? How does NaturalReader compare with TextAloud in this regard? Any other programs that work better? Thanks for any ideas and advice. Best regards, Russell Russell Solowoniuk AT Educational Assistant, Access and Disability Resources MacEwan University 7-198 D4, 10700-104 Ave. Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca> T: 780-497-5826 F: 780-497-4018 macewan.ca [MacEwan Logo] This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Please consider the environment before printing this email We acknowledge that the land on which we gather in Treaty Six Territory is the traditional gathering place for many Indigenous people. 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I worked with her as someone who could help explain accessible ways to navigate while one of her college peers/supervisors helped us know which features she needed to access. There were a few items that weren't reading correctly but we were able to figure out alternative ways to access/input info. Like all programs, it's not fully accessible, but it was more accessible than I was expecting based on the interface I saw. She's just beginning to use the program so my experience is based on a very small portion of what I expect this application can do. Dawn Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Adina Mulliken > Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 9:48 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: [EXT][Athen] Qualitative research software External Email Hi everyone, I?m wondering if anyone has info about accessibility of any qualitative research software? The names of the products I looked for are: * Atlas.ti- has a VPAT from 2013 posted on its site. (Not too promising) * NVivo- I found this VPAT with no date that I could find on CSU?s site. It says NVivo ?uses 3rd party software? that didn?t/doesn?t work with screen readers. It doesn?t say which features don?t work. NVivo?s site says it works with JAWS here. Dept of Veterans Affairs found it was ?not conformant? with Section 508 in June 2020. * ?MAXQDA? ?VPAT? -didn?t find any relevant results on Google and I didn?t find any accessibility info on its site * "Dedoose" "vpat" -didn?t find any relevant results on Google and I didn?t find any accessibility info on its site * "Provalis research text analytics software" "vpat" -didn?t find any relevant results on Google and I didn?t find any accessibility info on its site Names of some others I didn?t look up are * Raven?s Eye * Quirkos I would consider other qualitative research software if I find any that?s screen reader accessible. I?m sighted and this is planning ahead for a project where I might be working with colleague(s) who are blind or have other disabilities. Thank you for any ideas! 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My Executive Director and I had a meeting with a couple of Glean (Sonocent) reps today. For the 750 students we have registered and actively engaged students we have, they quoted us a yearly license of $16,000. If you are using Glean for Education, is that reasonable. It is $213 per student. Do you find that your students actively use the program? Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 117 University Center Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lydia at autistichoya.com Wed Apr 7 18:57:00 2021 From: lydia at autistichoya.com (Lydia X. Z. Brown) Date: Wed Apr 7 18:58:03 2021 Subject: [Athen] April #LiberatingWebinars: Disability Justice & Crip Technoscience; Disrupting Educational Ableism & Racism; Health Justice Is Disability Justice Message-ID: Please join the Autistic Women & Nonbinary Network for our free April #LiberatingWebinars programming Disability Justice & Crip Technoscience: Racism & Ableism in AI & the Future of Technology *Friday, 23 April 2021, at 5pm ET / 4pm CT / 2pm PT* Join AWN for a discussion with Damien Patrick Williams and Crystal Lee on disability justice interventions for racism and ableism in AI. RSVP for ?Disability Justice & Crip Technoscience: Racism & Ableism in AI & the Future of Technology? [image: Event banner shows a stock image of a city at night overlaid with icons representing a connected web of data. There are photos of two people. The first person is Damien, a Black man with a mohawk and glasses, stands indoors in front of two tall bookshelves full of books, one thin & red, one of wide untreated pine, and a large monitor with a printer and papers on the stand beneath it. He is wearing a black button up shirt, a red paisley tie, a light grey check suit jacket, and black jeans. The second person is Crystal Lee, a medium-skinned Asian woman with a pixie cut wearing a gray shirt and round eyeglasses with black frames. Trees and other greenery are behind her. The text says, Disability Justice & Crip Technoscience: Racism & Ableism in AI & the Future of Technology, 23 April 2021 at 5pm Eastern / 2pm Pacific. The corner shows the AWN logo - a large "a" with a dragonfly on it, and the words awnnetwork.org.] Artificial intelligence (AI) technologies are ubiquitous, affecting pretrial bail determinations, health care resource allocation, school admissions, credit reporting, hiring, and policing. For disabled people, technology has often both created and enabled greater access and also threatened to sever access while promoting eugenicist ideas about cures. What interventions do Disability Justice and the emergent field of crip technoscience (named first by Aimi Hamraie and Kelly Fritsch) make into conversations about AI and the future of technology? Where does ?algorithmic fairness? or ?algorithmic bias? fall short in addressing racism and ableism? Speakers Damien Patrick Williams is a PhD candidate in the Department of Science, Technology, and Society, at Virginia Tech. Damien researches how the values, knowledge systems, philosophies, social structures, religious beliefs, and lived experiences of humans can affect the creation and use of algorithms, machine intelligence, biotechnological interventions, and other technological systems and artifacts. More on Damien?s research can be found at A Future Worth Thinking About . Crystal Lee is a PhD candidate at MIT and a Fellow at the Berkman Klein Center at Harvard University. She works broadly on topics related to the social and political dimensions of computing, data visualization, and disability. She also conducts ethnographic and computational research on social media communities. Crystal?s research has been supported by the National Science Foundation, Social Science Research Council, and the MIT Programs for the Digital Humanities. Previously, she was a visiting research scientist at the European Commission, and graduated with high honors from Stanford University. Moderator Lydia X. Z. Brown is AWN?s Director of Policy, Advocacy, & External Affairs. RSVP for ?Disability Justice & Crip Technoscience: Racism & Ableism in AI & the Future of Technology? ------------------------------ Disrupting Educational Ableism & Racism: Disability, Race, & Trauma in Schools *Sunday, 25 April 2021, at 4pm ET / 3pm CT / 1pm PT* Join AWN for a discussion with Mahlet Meshesha and Jilisa Milton on disability, race, and trauma in schools. RSVP for ?Disrupting Educational Ableism & Racism: Disability, Race, & Trauma in Schools? [image: Event banner shows a photo of a school building in snow. There are photos of two people. The first person is Mahlet, a Black person with tight curly hair tied back, wearing a dark patterned shawl. The second person is Jilisa, a Black person with long thin dreads and glasses, wearing a turtleneck. The text says, Disrupting Educational Ableism & Racism: Disability, Race, & Trauma in Schools, 25 April 2021 at 4pm Eastern / 1pm Pacific. The corner shows the AWN logo - a large "a" with a dragonfly on it, and the words awnnetwork.org.] ?Schools and the legal system tend to label these children as disobedient, disorderly, and dis/abled while simultaneously ignoring the voices of the children themselves. This pathologization then is perpetuated through the labeling, surveillance, and punishment of unwanted students along with the silencing of their voices.? ? Subini Ancy Annamma, in *The Pedagogy of Pathologization: Dis/abled Girls of Color in the School-prison Nexus* For many disabled people, school is not a safe place. Instead, it is a place where we are subjected to coercive and involuntary treatment, isolation and bullying from peers, abuse in the name of help, and constant surveillance and criminalization ? all of which cause and exacerbate trauma. Black and Brown disabled students ? especially those who face additional vectors of marginalization ? face the brunt of ableism and racism in schools. How can neurodivergent and other disabled people make critical interventions and inroads into educational advocacy? How can we do anti-oppression, liberation-focused work within carceral spaces like the family regulation system, the legal system, and the educational system? Speakers Mahlet Meshesha , LCSW, is a school-based trauma therapist where she works with youth and families of Color. Her clinical practice is focused on decolonizing mental health treatment and addressing how oppressive structural and cultural factors impact mental health/wellness. She received her Masters of Social Work in 2019 from Boston University where she specialized in child trauma and social work leadership. Currently, she is obtaining her Master?s in public health at George Washington University. Jilisa Milton is an Alabama based civil rights attorney, policy analyst, social worker, racial justice activist, community organizer, and relational strategist. She has nearly a decade of experience working at the intersection of racial equity, critical race & feminist theory, poverty, criminal justice reform, mental health, and reproductive justice. Ms. Milton currently practices law in Alabama, implementing a project in the Black Belt that protects children with disabilities from entering the school to prison pipeline, and ensures access to disability-related legal services and health services. Moderator Lydia X. Z. Brown is AWN?s Director of Policy, Advocacy, & External Affairs. RSVP for ?Disrupting Educational Ableism & Racism: Disability, Race, & Trauma in Schools? ------------------------------ Health Justice is Disability Justice: Disabled Perspectives in Public Health Research, Policy, & Advocacy *Wednesday, 28 April 2021, 5pm ET / 4pm CT / 2pm PT* Please join AWN for a discussion with Nassira D. Nicola and Emily M. Lund on disability justice and public health. 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The text says, Health Justice is Disability Justice: Disabled Perspectives in Public Health Research, Policy, & Advocacy, 28 April 2021 at 5pm Eastern / 2pm Pacific. The corner shows the AWN logo - a large "a" with a dragonfly on it, and the words awnnetwork.org.]] The COVID-19 pandemic helps reveal ableism in our laws, policies, and practices through health care rationing proposals, disastrous vaccine rollouts, and relief measures that have failed to assist disabled people impacted by loss of personal attendant care, forced to work in high-risk jobs, and disproportionately more likely to experience homelessness, domestic violence, and food insecurity. What do disabled advocates, scholars, and policy experts have to offer public health research, policy, and advocacy? How can disabled people?s knowledge, wisdom, and offerings disrupt and end unjust and inequitable pandemic policies and practices? Speakers Nassira D. Nicola is the lead Health and Disability Program Coordinator in the Office of Health Equity at the Massachusetts Department of Public Health. She has advised numerous programs within DPH, and across the country, on ways to learn from and include disabled people as both members of the public and colleagues. When not working (or when in long meetings), she can be found knitting piles of lace shawls and blankets for other people?s babies. Emily M. Lund , PhD, CRC, is an Assistant Professor of Counselor Education in the department of Educational Studies in Psychology, Research Methodology, and Counseling at the University of Alabama. Their primary research interests include interpersonal violence and trauma in people with disabilities; suicide and non-suicidal self-injury in people with disabilities; the experiences of graduate students with disabilities; and LGBTQ+ issues, particularly as they intersect with disability. Dr. Lund has published over 90 peer-reviewed articles and edited two books on these and similar topics. Their work emphasizes positive disability identity development, marginalization, intersectionality, and disability cultural competence. Moderator Lydia X. Z. Brown is AWN?s Director of Policy, Advocacy, & External Affairs. RSVP for ?Health Justice is Disability Justice: Disabled Perspectives in Public Health Research, Policy, & Advocacy? [Begin photo descriptions: Event banner shows a stock image of a city at night overlaid with icons representing a connected web of data. There are photos of two people. The first person is Damien, a Black man with a mohawk and glasses, stands indoors in front of two tall bookshelves full of books, one thin & red, one of wide untreated pine, and a large monitor with a printer and papers on the stand beneath it. He is wearing a black button up shirt, a red paisley tie, a light grey check suit jacket, and black jeans. The second person is Crystal Lee, a medium-skinned Asian woman with a pixie cut wearing a gray shirt and round eyeglasses with black frames. Trees and other greenery are behind her. The text says, Disability Justice & Crip Technoscience: Racism & Ableism in AI & the Future of Technology, 23 April 2021 at 5pm Eastern / 2pm Pacific. The corner shows the AWN logo - a large "a" with a dragonfly on it, and the words awnnetwork.org. Event banner shows a photo of a school building in snow. There are photos of two people. The first person is Mahlet, a Black person with tight curly hair tied back, wearing a dark patterned shawl. The second person is Jilisa, a Black person with long thin dreads and glasses, wearing a turtleneck. The text says, Disrupting Educational Ableism & Racism: Disability, Race, & Trauma in Schools, 25 April 2021 at 4pm Eastern / 1pm Pacific. The corner shows the AWN logo - a large "a" with a dragonfly on it, and the words awnnetwork.org. Event banner shows a green smoothie and cut-open apple. There are photos of two people. The first person is Nassira, a fat Arab-American femme with light olive skin and dark hair, posing in front of a grey cubicle wall. She is wearing a charcoal-grey t-shirt, black cat's-eye glasses with swirls of translucent pink, and a gauzy salmon-pink scarf looped around her neck. Next to her scarf, her employee ID badge hangs from a yellow button with "challenge ableism" written in black. Her lipstick is an exact match for the color of her scarf, and her eyeshadow is the same color as the button. The second person is Emily, a white non-binary person with medium-length brown hair and glasses smiles at the camera. They are wearing a teal fleece shirt. The text says, Health Justice is Disability Justice: Disabled Perspectives in Public Health Research, Policy, & Advocacy, 28 April 2021 at 5pm Eastern / 2pm Pacific. 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My Executive Director and I had a meeting with a couple of Glean (Sonocent) reps today. For the 750 students we have registered and actively engaged students we have, they quoted us a yearly license of $16,000. If you are using Glean for Education, is that reasonable. It is $213 per student. Do you find that your students actively use the program? Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 117 University Center Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gian at accessibilityoz.com Sun Apr 11 17:11:00 2021 From: gian at accessibilityoz.com (Gian Wild) Date: Sun Apr 11 17:11:47 2021 Subject: [Athen] AccessibilityOz turns 10 - free webinar on history of web a11y! Message-ID: AccessibilityOz is turning 10! Come celebrate with us at our free webinar, The History of Digital Accessibility. AccessibilityOz Founder and CEO Gian Wild will discuss digital accessibility's hard-won and progressive history, how it started, where it is now and where it's headed. https://www.accessibilityoz.com/2021/03/the-history-of-digital-accessibility-come-celebrate-accessibilityozs-10th-birthday-with-a-new-webinar/ Gian Wild, CEO AccessibilityOz Company Twitter: @accessibilityoz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 20:26:40 2021 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype@gmail.com) Date: Mon Apr 12 20:27:23 2021 Subject: [Athen] Searching for a book Message-ID: Hi all, Looking for a book if anyone?s got it in PDF format. Golden treasury of myths and legends. Anne Terry White - Publisher : Golden Press; First Edition (January 1, 1970) - Language : English - Hardcover : 165 pages - ISBN-10 : 1131232089 - ISBN-13 : 978-1131232089 Thanks in advance! 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This coming Friday, April 16th at 1:30pm Eastern - Don't miss Part Two of the CNIB Frontier Accessibility Vision Showcase Join Andrea Voss from CNIB Frontier Accessibility who will highlight a couple of service partnerships with Be My Eyes and LEARNstyle. Michel Pepin, national sales director from Humanware will also present. Discover the innovations from the new line of braille displays that they offer, perfect for a post secondary setting. They will also review products specific to education and the partnership with CNIB. Join Mary Ann Bent, Commercial Accessibility Deployment Specialist from the Frontier Accessibility team. Mary Ann Bent will discuss the navigation and wayfinding services available. Learn all about beacon positioning systems, accessible apps and LiDAR mapping. Don't forget to register for this session and Part three the following week. Each session has separate registration links For more details and to register, please visit the N.O.A.T. Events Website. Hoping to see everyone on Friday - Take care! Doug Mantle, Founder | The Network of Assistive Technologists www.NOAT.ca | info@NOAT.ca -- [https://www.kings.uwo.ca/kings/assets/Image/email/accessibility-counselling.png] King?s University College is committed to accessibility for persons with disabilities. Please contact us if you have any particular accommodation requirements or require information in an alternate format. ________________________________ Confidentiality Notice: The contents of this communication, including any attachment(s), are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient (or are not receiving this communication on behalf of the intended recipient), please notify the sender immediately and delete or destroy this communication without reading it, and without making, forwarding, or retaining any copy or record of it or its contents. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8263CD66-D50B-44D0-9759-83738558C6E5@nau.edu> Ander, I do not have an alternative, but our team was recently provided with the following update from Kudoboard. # Accessibility Items Already Completed on board and kudo creation flow: * added labels for screen readers for icon-only buttons * added labels for screen readers to form inputs with inadequate text labels ## Will be completed within 1 month * fix screen reader labels on our dropdown menu component * address concerns for those with "prefers reduced motion" browser setting (no animated gifs) * broader audit of the site outside of the board and kudo creation flow I do not know if they have completed any of this work as I have not been back into it to test. I look forward to other responses with accessible alternatives. Take care, Sean Kugler, M.Ed. Digital Accessibility Analyst, Sr. Disability Resources PO Box 5633 Flagstaff, AZ 86011 928-523-6042 From: Ander Bolduc Reply-To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Date: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 1:54 PM To: Subject: [Athen] Accessible alternative to Kudoboard? Hi folks, is anyone aware of a program like Kudoboard that is accessible (to screen readers, etc)? Thank you, Ander -- Ander Fredin Bolduc Associate Director | Disability Resource Center disability.umn.edu Pronouns: He, Him, His -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Universal Design ? best practices for web & media development ? accessible curriculum ? alternate format ? teaching about accessibility and UD in university curriculum (and elsewhere) ? evidence-based research ? other topics related to accessibility in higher education and other environments * Submission Details* Use the online speaker proposal form to submit your proposal. Additional speaker information can be found on the AHG website . *More Info* View last year?s sessions to get a sense of the typical agenda and range of topics. If you have any questions about proposal submission, contact Howard Kramer at 720-351-8668 or at the email below. e-mail: ahg@ahead.org Conference URL: http://accessinghigherground.org/ -- Regards, Howard Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 Sign up to access the recordings from the *2020 Accessing Higher Ground Conference * and for AHG 2021 'Watch Parties .' 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In a best-case scenario, the student would prefer a human voice recording, but most of their course materials are not available in audiobook format. I'm working on finding a creative tech-based alternative, and I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have! Take care, Mary *Mary Popish* Adaptive Technology Specialist & Alternate Formats Coordinator Disability Resource Center Portland State University Phone: (503) 725-9119 Fax: (503) 725-4103 Email: drc@pdx.edu URL: http://www.pdx.edu/d isability-resource-center Pronouns: she / her / hers --- We hope you are doing well during this difficult time. We are still here for you! We are performing all essential work of the DRC remotely, including initial appointments and drop-ins. Call 503-725-4150, email drc@pdx.edu, or visit our virtual front desk between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. Monday - Friday at https://pdx.zoom.us/j/379914326. 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Stomp COVID-19! #tidetogether healthinfo.ua.edu] From: athen-list On Behalf Of foreigntype@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 12:16 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Athen] JAWS access in Blackboard Hi all, I have a student using JAWS and has reported to me they cannot read the sidebar comments I wrote on their written project submitted in BlackBoard.. Anyone know if this is a known glitch in BB or if in fact JAWS can access these instructor annotations, what is the key combo for the student to be able to access the feedback annotated notes? Any advice or suggestions would be most helpful! Thanks in advance. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 57950 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 11:19:03 2021 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype@gmail.com) Date: Tue Apr 20 11:21:09 2021 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] JAWS access in Blackboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rachel, I'm the instructor. Grading the assignment within Blackboard on the student's uploaded docx file. Making corrections (inline) and leaving sidebar annotations. The student is using JAWS and reports JAWS cannot read my feedback. They have no problem if all the feedback is left in the INSTRUCTOR NOTES box in the grade box itself, only when the annotated instructor notes are left attached to the docx submission. Before I go back into the file and do a massive 18 pages of cut and paste of all my annotations & put into a separate document for them to read (which would then be disconnected from any context I am referring to in the text), is there any keystroke combo she can use in JAWS to get it to read these comments in BB? Thanks for jumping in! Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:25 AM Rachel Thompson wrote: > Hi, Wink. > > > > Do you know if this was done within Bb?s Annotate tool used for inline > grading of assignments native to Bb or in another tool, like Turnitin? > > > > Rachel > > > > *Dr. Rachel S. Thompson* | Director, Center for Instructional Technology > > Office of Information Technology > The University of Alabama > Box Box870248 > Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 > Phone 2053480216 > rsthompson2@ua.edu | https://cit.ua.edu/ > > Book an appointment with me > > > [image: Mask Up Bama! Stomp COVID-19! #tidetogether healthinfo.ua.edu] > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *foreigntype@gmail.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 20, 2021 12:16 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [Athen] JAWS access in Blackboard > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have a student using JAWS and has reported to me they cannot read the > sidebar comments I wrote on their written project submitted in BlackBoard.. > Anyone know if this is a known glitch in BB or if in fact JAWS can access > these instructor annotations, what is the key combo for the student to be > able to access the feedback annotated notes? > > > > Any advice or suggestions would be most helpful! > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Wink Harner > > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > > The Foreign Type > > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 57950 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Robin.Eckelberry at ppcc.edu Tue Apr 20 11:34:19 2021 From: Robin.Eckelberry at ppcc.edu (Eckelberry, Robin) Date: Tue Apr 20 11:34:39 2021 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] JAWS access in Blackboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <72d0edd4bf6a46c1be13db24ae7b223e@ppcc.edu> Hi Wink, I don?t know about Blackboard, but if the student can download your docx file with comments, JAWS may be able to read where comments are and what you have said: Screen reader for comments in Word. Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list On Behalf Of foreigntype@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 12:19 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] JAWS access in Blackboard CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Rachel, I'm the instructor. Grading the assignment within Blackboard on the student's uploaded docx file. Making corrections (inline) and leaving sidebar annotations. The student is using JAWS and reports JAWS cannot read my feedback. They have no problem if all the feedback is left in the INSTRUCTOR NOTES box in the grade box itself, only when the annotated instructor notes are left attached to the docx submission. Before I go back into the file and do a massive 18 pages of cut and paste of all my annotations & put into a separate document for them to read (which would then be disconnected from any context I am referring to in the text), is there any keystroke combo she can use in JAWS to get it to read these comments in BB? Thanks for jumping in! Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:25 AM Rachel Thompson > wrote: Hi, Wink. Do you know if this was done within Bb?s Annotate tool used for inline grading of assignments native to Bb or in another tool, like Turnitin? Rachel Dr. Rachel S. Thompson | Director, Center for Instructional Technology Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama Box Box870248 Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 Phone 2053480216 rsthompson2@ua.edu | https://cit.ua.edu/ Book an appointment with me [Mask Up Bama! Stomp COVID-19! #tidetogether healthinfo.ua.edu] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of foreigntype@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 12:16 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Athen] JAWS access in Blackboard Hi all, I have a student using JAWS and has reported to me they cannot read the sidebar comments I wrote on their written project submitted in BlackBoard.. Anyone know if this is a known glitch in BB or if in fact JAWS can access these instructor annotations, what is the key combo for the student to be able to access the feedback annotated notes? Any advice or suggestions would be most helpful! Thanks in advance. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 57950 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Tue Apr 20 11:49:36 2021 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Tue Apr 20 11:49:52 2021 Subject: [Athen] Natural-sounding text-to-speech tech? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Voice "human-ness" notwithstanding, it may help to use TTS options that include a pronunciation editor feature (sometimes called pronunciation dictionary) where the user can specify how particular words are pronounced. This is especially helpful if a tool?s TTS constantly mispronounces the same words used frequently for a given specialized topic. Off the top of my head, Kurzweil 3000, Read&Write for Mac & Windows, Natural Reader, and Voice Dream Reader include pronunciation editors ? other tools may, too. As for the complex math and science equations, you can try selecting the equations (even as images) and then either type in appropriate alt-text or override the OCR?d text with how that equation would be spoken aloud to be understandable (e.g., "x = the fraction, numerator, -b plus or minus the square root of?"). - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net www.AT4LD.net > On Apr 20, 2021, at 9:38 AM, Mary Popish wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > I hope you are well! I'm writing to see if anyone has suggestions for text-to-speech tech that: > Can reliably pronounce science and math content correctly, and > Sounds as natural as possible. > I'm working with a student who is taking upper division science courses and is struggling with mispronunciation from the computer-generated voices in Kurzweil, Voice Dream Reader, and Voice Over. The student is an iPhone, iPad, and Mac OS user. > > In a best-case scenario, the student would prefer a human voice recording, but most of their course materials are not available in audiobook format. I'm working on finding a creative tech-based alternative, and I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have! > > Take care, > Mary > > Mary Popish > Adaptive Technology Specialist & Alternate Formats Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > Portland State University > > Phone: (503) 725-9119 > Fax: (503) 725-4103 > Email: drc@pdx.edu > URL: http://www.pdx.edu/d isability-resource-center > Pronouns: she / her / hers > > --- > > We hope you are doing well during this difficult time. We are still here for you! We are performing all essential work of the DRC remotely, including initial appointments and drop-ins. Call 503-725-4150, email drc@pdx.edu , or visit our virtual front desk between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. Monday - Friday at https://pdx.zoom.us/j/379914326 . We are monitoring voice mail and email messages closely and will respond as soon as possible. > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 12:23:23 2021 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype@gmail.com) Date: Tue Apr 20 12:24:22 2021 Subject: [Athen] Natural-sounding text-to-speech tech? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I once contracted to do alt-text conversions in Kurzweil for Physics, Chemistry and Spanish. Kurzweil uses an Abbyy Fine Reader lite version for the alt-text conversion and doesn't render math or any hard STEM sciences into TTS with any real accuracy (at all). For the physics books, I used the method Shelley describes: setting exact (correct) pronunciations of terminology which involves selecting the text, marking it, copying each corrected word to a specialized "pronunciation" dictionary, writing out the correct phonetic pronunciation, listening to it and correcting the phonetics until the word is pronounced correctly by the speech engine, then saving the pronunciation in the pronunciation word bank, doing a search and replace for every single instance that word appears in the text and changing them all. For every single misrecognized word in the textbook(s). I did three years' of HS physics textbooks for a total of approximately 1500 pages (textbooks only, not including all the workbooks and supplementary materials). I ended up with approximately 12,000 phonetically corrected words in the word bank dictionary for those three textbooks. The chemistry was harder & more time consuming because of the function signs. Is it possible? Yes. There is no "easy button" for it though. This kind of alt text conversion is definitely not for the faint-of-heart alt-text production specialists! Design Science (now Wiris) has some good software for creating both accessible math and accessible sciences --specifically chemistry-- (using math ml and chem ml); EquatIO from TextHelp does a good job rendering math as TTS and is working on increasing their chemistry-to-speech recognition. EPubs using Thorium Reader does a good job with math (as long as the math has been input using MathType in MS Word) as a TTS. Central Access Reader is good with math as well, with two caveats: one, the math ml must be done in MS Word and edited for correctness; it is designed for sighted readers with a reading or math disability, not for low or non-sighted users. Just a few afterthoughts based on Shelley's helpful suggestions. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 9:39 AM Mary Popish wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I hope you are well! I'm writing to see if anyone has suggestions for > text-to-speech tech that: > > - Can reliably pronounce science and math content correctly, and > - Sounds as natural as possible. > > I'm working with a student who is taking upper division science courses > and is struggling with mispronunciation from the computer-generated voices > in Kurzweil, Voice Dream Reader, and Voice Over. The student is an > iPhone, iPad, and Mac OS user. > > In a best-case scenario, the student would prefer a human voice recording, > but most of their course materials are not available in audiobook format. > I'm working on finding a creative tech-based alternative, and I'd > appreciate any suggestions you might have! > > Take care, > Mary > > *Mary Popish* > Adaptive Technology Specialist & Alternate Formats Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > Portland State University > > Phone: (503) 725-9119 > Fax: (503) 725-4103 > Email: drc@pdx.edu > URL: http://www.pdx.edu/d > isability-resource-center > Pronouns: she / her / hers > > --- > > We hope you are doing well during this difficult time. We are still here > for you! We are performing all essential work of the DRC remotely, > including initial appointments and drop-ins. Call 503-725-4150, email > drc@pdx.edu, or visit our virtual front desk between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. > Monday - Friday at https://pdx.zoom.us/j/379914326. We are monitoring > voice mail and email messages closely and will respond as soon as possible. > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 12:24:23 2021 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype@gmail.com) Date: Tue Apr 20 12:25:53 2021 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] JAWS access in Blackboard In-Reply-To: <72d0edd4bf6a46c1be13db24ae7b223e@ppcc.edu> References: <72d0edd4bf6a46c1be13db24ae7b223e@ppcc.edu> Message-ID: That seems like a viable suggestion, Robin. I'll pass it along to the student. Thank you. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 11:35 AM Eckelberry, Robin < Robin.Eckelberry@ppcc.edu> wrote: > Hi Wink, > > > > I don?t know about Blackboard, but if the student can download your docx > file with comments, JAWS may be able to read where comments are and what > you have said: Screen reader for comments in Word > > . > > > > Sincerely, > > Robin > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *foreigntype@gmail.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 20, 2021 12:19 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] JAWS access in Blackboard > > > > > > *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community > College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize > the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT > Help Desk if you have any questions. > > Rachel, > > > > I'm the instructor. Grading the assignment within Blackboard on the > student's uploaded docx file. Making corrections (inline) and leaving > sidebar annotations. The student is using JAWS and reports JAWS cannot read > my feedback. They have no problem if all the feedback is left in the > INSTRUCTOR NOTES box in the grade box itself, only when the annotated > instructor notes are left attached to the docx submission. > > > > Before I go back into the file and do a massive 18 pages of cut and paste > of all my annotations & put into a separate document for them to read > (which would then be disconnected from any context I am referring to in the > text), is there any keystroke combo she can use in JAWS to get it to read > these comments in BB? > > > > Thanks for jumping in! > > Wink Harner > > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > > The Foreign Type > > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:25 AM Rachel Thompson > wrote: > > Hi, Wink. > > > > Do you know if this was done within Bb?s Annotate tool used for inline > grading of assignments native to Bb or in another tool, like Turnitin? > > > > Rachel > > > > *Dr. Rachel S. Thompson* | Director, Center for Instructional Technology > > Office of Information Technology > The University of Alabama > Box Box870248 > Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 > Phone 2053480216 > rsthompson2@ua.edu | https://cit.ua.edu/ > > Book an appointment with me > > > [image: Mask Up Bama! Stomp COVID-19! #tidetogether healthinfo.ua.edu] > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *foreigntype@gmail.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 20, 2021 12:16 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [Athen] JAWS access in Blackboard > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have a student using JAWS and has reported to me they cannot read the > sidebar comments I wrote on their written project submitted in BlackBoard.. > Anyone know if this is a known glitch in BB or if in fact JAWS can access > these instructor annotations, what is the key combo for the student to be > able to access the feedback annotated notes? > > > > Any advice or suggestions would be most helpful! > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Wink Harner > > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > > The Foreign Type > > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 57950 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pj.er.nagy1 at verizon.net Tue Apr 20 12:49:50 2021 From: pj.er.nagy1 at verizon.net (Paul Nagy) Date: Tue Apr 20 12:50:00 2021 Subject: [Athen] Natural-sounding text-to-speech tech? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007a01d7361e$54143c10$fc3cb430$@verizon.net> Hi Mary, My mentee in the NFBS&E Cohort has been using NVDA on her Mac, running BootCamp. I have been developing high school level math exercises for her, that she has been able to read that way. However, I cannot vouch for how well NVDA pronounces science vocabulary. Perhaps, you or your student could reach out to her for her opinion about NVDA, running on a Mac, with BootCamp. She is Vanna Song, and her email address is truewise.8614@gmail.com. I myself have used NVDA for math, of course, running on Windows. I don?t have a Mac. I hope this helps you. Cheers, Paul Nagy From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Popish Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 12:38 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Natural-sounding text-to-speech tech? Hi everybody, I hope you are well! I'm writing to see if anyone has suggestions for text-to-speech tech that: * Can reliably pronounce science and math content correctly, and * Sounds as natural as possible. I'm working with a student who is taking upper division science courses and is struggling with mispronunciation from the computer-generated voices in Kurzweil, Voice Dream Reader, and Voice Over. The student is an iPhone, iPad, and Mac OS user. In a best-case scenario, the student would prefer a human voice recording, but most of their course materials are not available in audiobook format. I'm working on finding a creative tech-based alternative, and I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have! Take care, Mary Mary Popish Adaptive Technology Specialist & Alternate Formats Coordinator Disability Resource Center Portland State University Phone: (503) 725-9119 Fax: (503) 725-4103 Email: drc@pdx.edu URL: http://www.pdx.edu/d isability-resource-center Pronouns: she / her / hers --- We hope you are doing well during this difficult time. We are still here for you! We are performing all essential work of the DRC remotely, including initial appointments and drop-ins. Call 503-725-4150, email drc@pdx.edu, or visit our virtual front desk between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. Monday - Friday at https://pdx.zoom.us/j/379914326. We are monitoring voice mail and email messages closely and will respond as soon as possible. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpolizzotto at berkeley.edu Tue Apr 20 16:07:38 2021 From: jpolizzotto at berkeley.edu (Joseph Polizzotto MA) Date: Tue Apr 20 16:08:47 2021 Subject: [Athen] Natural-sounding text-to-speech tech? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mary: One option is to produce stand-alone HTML files with SVG versions of the math. The math alt text can be added in the title attribute of the SVG element which could be read out loud by a TTS reader such as MS Edge's Read Aloud utility. Edge's voices have good prosody and are free. We have developed a DOCX-HTML script that leverages Node's Tex2SVG utility plus Volker Sorge's Math Jax speech rules engine to generate a more natural-sounding math. In a future release of the script, we will also allow the user to customize the alt text to fit a student's individual preferences. I have attached an example that you could try out. Joseph On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 9:39 AM Mary Popish wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I hope you are well! I'm writing to see if anyone has suggestions for > text-to-speech tech that: > > - Can reliably pronounce science and math content correctly, and > - Sounds as natural as possible. > > I'm working with a student who is taking upper division science courses > and is struggling with mispronunciation from the computer-generated voices > in Kurzweil, Voice Dream Reader, and Voice Over. The student is an > iPhone, iPad, and Mac OS user. > > In a best-case scenario, the student would prefer a human voice recording, > but most of their course materials are not available in audiobook format. > I'm working on finding a creative tech-based alternative, and I'd > appreciate any suggestions you might have! > > Take care, > Mary > > *Mary Popish* > Adaptive Technology Specialist & Alternate Formats Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > Portland State University > > Phone: (503) 725-9119 > Fax: (503) 725-4103 > Email: drc@pdx.edu > URL: http://www.pdx.edu/d > isability-resource-center > Pronouns: she / her / hers > > --- > > We hope you are doing well during this difficult time. We are still here > for you! We are performing all essential work of the DRC remotely, > including initial appointments and drop-ins. Call 503-725-4150, email > drc@pdx.edu, or visit our virtual front desk between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. > Monday - Friday at https://pdx.zoom.us/j/379914326. 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Bear Down, Dawn Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Joseph Polizzotto MA Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 4:07 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Natural-sounding text-to-speech tech? External Email Hi Mary: One option is to produce stand-alone HTML files with SVG versions of the math. The math alt text can be added in the title attribute of the SVG element which could be read out loud by a TTS reader such as MS Edge's Read Aloud utility. Edge's voices have good prosody and are free. We have developed a DOCX-HTML script that leverages Node's Tex2SVG utility plus Volker Sorge's Math Jax speech rules engine to generate a more natural-sounding math. In a future release of the script, we will also allow the user to customize the alt text to fit a student's individual preferences. I have attached an example that you could try out. Joseph On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 9:39 AM Mary Popish > wrote: Hi everybody, I hope you are well! I'm writing to see if anyone has suggestions for text-to-speech tech that: * Can reliably pronounce science and math content correctly, and * Sounds as natural as possible. I'm working with a student who is taking upper division science courses and is struggling with mispronunciation from the computer-generated voices in Kurzweil, Voice Dream Reader, and Voice Over. The student is an iPhone, iPad, and Mac OS user. In a best-case scenario, the student would prefer a human voice recording, but most of their course materials are not available in audiobook format. I'm working on finding a creative tech-based alternative, and I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have! Take care, Mary Mary Popish Adaptive Technology Specialist & Alternate Formats Coordinator Disability Resource Center Portland State University Phone: (503) 725-9119 Fax: (503) 725-4103 Email: drc@pdx.edu URL: http://www.pdx.edu/disability-resource-center Pronouns: she / her / hers --- We hope you are doing well during this difficult time. We are still here for you! We are performing all essential work of the DRC remotely, including initial appointments and drop-ins. Call 503-725-4150, email drc@pdx.edu, or visit our virtual front desk between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. Monday - Friday at https://pdx.zoom.us/j/379914326. We are monitoring voice mail and email messages closely and will respond as soon as possible. _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Alternate Media Supervisor Disabled Students' Program University of California, Berkeley https://dsp.berkeley.edu/ (510) 642-0329 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 16:59:51 2021 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype@gmail.com) Date: Tue Apr 20 17:00:19 2021 Subject: [Athen] Natural-sounding text-to-speech tech? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joseph, This is very interesting and helpful! Thank you so much!! Wink On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 4:09 PM Joseph Polizzotto MA < jpolizzotto@berkeley.edu> wrote: > Hi Mary: > > One option is to produce stand-alone HTML files with SVG versions of the > math. > > The math alt text can be added in the title attribute of the SVG element > which could be read out loud by a TTS reader such as MS Edge's Read Aloud > utility. Edge's voices have good prosody and are free. > > We have developed a DOCX-HTML script > that leverages Node's Tex2SVG > utility plus Volker Sorge's Math > Jax speech rules engine > to generate a more natural-sounding math. In a future release of the > script, we will also allow the user to customize the alt text to fit a > student's individual preferences. > > I have attached an example that you could try out. > > Joseph > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 9:39 AM Mary Popish wrote: > >> Hi everybody, >> >> I hope you are well! I'm writing to see if anyone has suggestions for >> text-to-speech tech that: >> >> - Can reliably pronounce science and math content correctly, and >> - Sounds as natural as possible. >> >> I'm working with a student who is taking upper division science courses >> and is struggling with mispronunciation from the computer-generated voices >> in Kurzweil, Voice Dream Reader, and Voice Over. The student is an >> iPhone, iPad, and Mac OS user. >> >> In a best-case scenario, the student would prefer a human voice >> recording, but most of their course materials are not available in >> audiobook format. I'm working on finding a creative tech-based alternative, >> and I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have! >> >> Take care, >> Mary >> >> *Mary Popish* >> Adaptive Technology Specialist & Alternate Formats Coordinator >> Disability Resource Center >> Portland State University >> >> Phone: (503) 725-9119 >> Fax: (503) 725-4103 >> Email: drc@pdx.edu >> URL: http://www.pdx.edu/d >> >> isability-resource-center >> Pronouns: she / her / hers >> >> --- >> >> We hope you are doing well during this difficult time. We are still here >> for you! We are performing all essential work of the DRC remotely, >> including initial appointments and drop-ins. Call 503-725-4150, email >> drc@pdx.edu, or visit our virtual front desk between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. >> Monday - Friday at https://pdx.zoom.us/j/379914326. We are monitoring >> voice mail and email messages closely and will respond as soon as possible. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > > > -- > *Alternate Media Supervisor* > Disabled Students' Program > University of California, Berkeley > https://dsp.berkeley.edu/ > > (510) 642-0329 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dawn Hunziker ATHEN President ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: ATHEN President Date: Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 6:01 PM Subject: 2021 Teresa Haven Scholarship for Students with Disabilities To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Hello ATHEN Members, ATHEN is happy to announce that the 2021 Teresa Haven Scholarship for Students with Disabilities is now open for nominations and applications. More information, including scholarship criteria and submission links, can be found on ATHEN's Teresa Haven Scholarship page . Teresa Haven, Ph.D., was a long-time ATHEN contributor and member of the Executive Council. She was a passionate advocate for student equity and diversity in higher education. In remembrance of her dedication and service to students, the ATHEN membership voted unanimously to create a scholarship in her memory. Thank you to the Executive Council and to those who have volunteered to participate on the 2021 Teresa Haven Scholarship Selection Committee. 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URL: From popish at pdx.edu Wed Apr 21 05:51:51 2021 From: popish at pdx.edu (Mary Popish) Date: Wed Apr 21 05:52:49 2021 Subject: [Athen] Natural-sounding text-to-speech tech? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you, everybody, for your helpful suggestions and insights! I really appreciate this community. Take care, Mary *Mary Popish* Adaptive Technology Specialist & Alternate Formats Coordinator Disability Resource Center Portland State University Phone: (503) 725-9119 Fax: (503) 725-4103 Email: drc@pdx.edu URL: http://www.pdx.edu/d isability-resource-center Pronouns: she / her / hers --- We hope you are doing well during this difficult time. We are still here for you! We are performing all essential work of the DRC remotely, including initial appointments and drop-ins. Call 503-725-4150, email drc@pdx.edu, or visit our virtual front desk between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. Monday - Friday at https://pdx.zoom.us/j/379914326. We are monitoring voice mail and email messages closely and will respond as soon as possible. On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 5:02 PM foreigntype@gmail.com wrote: > Joseph, > > This is very interesting and helpful! Thank you so much!! > > Wink > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 4:09 PM Joseph Polizzotto MA < > jpolizzotto@berkeley.edu> wrote: > >> Hi Mary: >> >> One option is to produce stand-alone HTML files with SVG versions of the >> math. >> >> The math alt text can be added in the title attribute of the SVG element >> which could be read out loud by a TTS reader such as MS Edge's Read Aloud >> utility. Edge's voices have good prosody and are free. >> >> We have developed a DOCX-HTML script >> that leverages Node's Tex2SVG >> utility plus Volker Sorge's Math >> Jax speech rules engine >> to generate a more natural-sounding math. In a future release of the >> script, we will also allow the user to customize the alt text to fit a >> student's individual preferences. >> >> I have attached an example that you could try out. >> >> Joseph >> >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 9:39 AM Mary Popish wrote: >> >>> Hi everybody, >>> >>> I hope you are well! I'm writing to see if anyone has suggestions for >>> text-to-speech tech that: >>> >>> - Can reliably pronounce science and math content correctly, and >>> - Sounds as natural as possible. >>> >>> I'm working with a student who is taking upper division science courses >>> and is struggling with mispronunciation from the computer-generated voices >>> in Kurzweil, Voice Dream Reader, and Voice Over. The student is an >>> iPhone, iPad, and Mac OS user. >>> >>> In a best-case scenario, the student would prefer a human voice >>> recording, but most of their course materials are not available in >>> audiobook format. I'm working on finding a creative tech-based alternative, >>> and I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have! >>> >>> Take care, >>> Mary >>> >>> *Mary Popish* >>> Adaptive Technology Specialist & Alternate Formats Coordinator >>> Disability Resource Center >>> Portland State University >>> >>> Phone: (503) 725-9119 >>> Fax: (503) 725-4103 >>> Email: drc@pdx.edu >>> URL: http://www.pdx.edu/d >>> >>> isability-resource-center >>> Pronouns: she / her / hers >>> >>> --- >>> >>> We hope you are doing well during this difficult time. We are still here >>> for you! We are performing all essential work of the DRC remotely, >>> including initial appointments and drop-ins. Call 503-725-4150, email >>> drc@pdx.edu, or visit our virtual front desk between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. >>> Monday - Friday at https://pdx.zoom.us/j/379914326. 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First, we're considering a full transcript of the ceremony with the Audio Descriptions written in print. This would basically be an alternative access plan. To do that, we really need an example of what that would look like. If you have one and can send it to me at millerch@vt.edu, I would appreciate it. Second, we're considering if we can use YouDescribe to create the audio described version to share with the requesting individual. We're trying to find out if there are any hangups with our software acquisition and security offices. But for those of you who've used it, do you have recommendations on how to use it well? Third, is there a way to provide a separate audio track that could be provided directly to the user and just synced with the live premier? Thanks in advance, Christa Miller Virginia Tech millerch@vt.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glen.walker at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 09:42:31 2021 From: glen.walker at gmail.com (glen walker) Date: Wed Apr 21 09:43:13 2021 Subject: [Athen] audio described graduation ceremony In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Audio descriptions are typically needed if there's something being presented that is not vocalized. Do you have an example of what would need to be described for a commencement ceremony? If someone is speaking, then the audio of the speech itself is essentially the AD. A transcript of the speech is also helpful. But if one speaker introduces another speaker, is there anything to describe between the speakers? If part of the ceremony has a video presentation that just has music and no words, then that might need AD. I know you're asking *how* to handle AD and not *why* they're needed. The *why* should be somewhat irrelevant. I'm just trying to think of where AD would be needed in a commencement ceremony. On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 9:54 AM Christa Milller wrote: > Hi All, > > Our university commencement team has received a request to have an audio > described commencement ceremony. Since the ceremony is being pre-recorded > and then premiered on YouTube live, we are trying to find a set of supports > that might work. > > First, we're considering a full transcript of the ceremony with the Audio > Descriptions written in print. This would basically be an alternative > access plan. To do that, we really need an example of what that would look > like. If you have one and can send it to me at millerch@vt.edu, I > would appreciate it. > > Second, we're considering if we can use YouDescribe to create the audio > described version to share with the requesting individual. We're trying to > find out if there are any hangups with our software acquisition and > security offices. But for those of you who've used it, do you have > recommendations on how to use it well? > > Third, is there a way to provide a separate audio track that could be > provided directly to the user and just synced with the live premier? > > Thanks in advance, > > Christa Miller > Virginia Tech > millerch@vt.edu > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 09:56:49 2021 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype@gmail.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 09:57:34 2021 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] JAWS access in Blackboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rachel et al Student reports the annotated file is only downloaded as a PDF (BB default is libre office) and while the highlights remain, there are no annotated notes attached. So, hive mind, how can a JAWS user access instructor's annotated notes on a written project assignment in Blackboard? Is there a way to save and download the annotations so JAWS can access the comments, remarks, and notes from the instructor? The student's document was uploaded as a docx but there doesn't appear to be a way to download the graded document in any other format than a libre office PDF file. This student has had nothing but access difficulties all along with Blackboard...who knows where they missed other instructors' annotated corrections to their work in other classes? Any tips, suggestions, insights, or solutions would be most welcome. Continued thanks to your collective great talent! Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:25 AM Rachel Thompson wrote: > Hi, Wink. > > > > Do you know if this was done within Bb?s Annotate tool used for inline > grading of assignments native to Bb or in another tool, like Turnitin? > > > > Rachel > > > > *Dr. Rachel S. Thompson* | Director, Center for Instructional Technology > > Office of Information Technology > The University of Alabama > Box Box870248 > Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 > Phone 2053480216 > rsthompson2@ua.edu | https://cit.ua.edu/ > > Book an appointment with me > > > [image: Mask Up Bama! Stomp COVID-19! #tidetogether healthinfo.ua.edu] > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *foreigntype@gmail.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 20, 2021 12:16 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [Athen] JAWS access in Blackboard > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have a student using JAWS and has reported to me they cannot read the > sidebar comments I wrote on their written project submitted in BlackBoard.. > Anyone know if this is a known glitch in BB or if in fact JAWS can access > these instructor annotations, what is the key combo for the student to be > able to access the feedback annotated notes? > > > > Any advice or suggestions would be most helpful! > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Wink Harner > > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > > The Foreign Type > > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 57950 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rsthompson2 at ua.edu Wed Apr 21 10:27:47 2021 From: rsthompson2 at ua.edu (Rachel Thompson) Date: Wed Apr 21 10:28:03 2021 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: JAWS access in Blackboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Wink. Ugh, that is awful. I'm asking my Bb contacts about this issue and will share if I learn anything of value. Rachel Dr. Rachel S. Thompson | Director, Center for Instructional Technology Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama Box Box870248 Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 Phone 2053480216 rsthompson2@ua.edu | https://cit.ua.edu/ Book an appointment with me [Mask Up Bama! Stomp COVID-19! #tidetogether healthinfo.ua.edu] From: athen-list On Behalf Of foreigntype@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 11:57 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] JAWS access in Blackboard Rachel et al Student reports the annotated file is only downloaded as a PDF (BB default is libre office) and while the highlights remain, there are no annotated notes attached. So, hive mind, how can a JAWS user access instructor's annotated notes on a written project assignment in Blackboard? Is there a way to save and download the annotations so JAWS can access the comments, remarks, and notes from the instructor? The student's document was uploaded as a docx but there doesn't appear to be a way to download the graded document in any other format than a libre office PDF file. This student has had nothing but access difficulties all along with Blackboard...who knows where they missed other instructors' annotated corrections to their work in other classes? Any tips, suggestions, insights, or solutions would be most welcome. Continued thanks to your collective great talent! Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:25 AM Rachel Thompson > wrote: Hi, Wink. Do you know if this was done within Bb's Annotate tool used for inline grading of assignments native to Bb or in another tool, like Turnitin? Rachel Dr. Rachel S. Thompson | Director, Center for Instructional Technology Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama Box Box870248 Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 Phone 2053480216 rsthompson2@ua.edu | https://cit.ua.edu/ Book an appointment with me [Mask Up Bama! Stomp COVID-19! #tidetogether healthinfo.ua.edu] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of foreigntype@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 12:16 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Athen] JAWS access in Blackboard Hi all, I have a student using JAWS and has reported to me they cannot read the sidebar comments I wrote on their written project submitted in BlackBoard.. Anyone know if this is a known glitch in BB or if in fact JAWS can access these instructor annotations, what is the key combo for the student to be able to access the feedback annotated notes? Any advice or suggestions would be most helpful! Thanks in advance. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 57950 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Wed Apr 21 11:13:51 2021 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Wed Apr 21 11:14:21 2021 Subject: [Athen] Publishers platforms and AT Message-ID: I ask this every quarter, but have their been any new developments in tracking which AT works with which publisher-supplied ebook platforms? I am taking a class that uses a book that is available as an ebook on VitalSource. I really like that platform for myself, but so so many of my students complain about VitalSource, or Redshelf or the many other ebook platforms that are publisher-specific. Pearson, Cengage, Wiley, McGrawHill and McMillan all offer ebooks integrated with online labs or available on their own platform when the student makes a purchase. When the publisher refuses to provide me a book, because it's already online and supposedly accessible, I can ask the student what AT they use, but it still leaves me unclear whether the problem is the AT, the platform or the student's inability or unwillingness to learn to use the platform. I could really use some real data - I know there was a daisy webinar about it just this morning which I'll watch - but if I know for example that a particular Wiley book works fine with Kurzweil's read the web, then I can just encourage the student to get more training which we have available. But if I know it doesn't work, then I can start arguing with the publisher. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coco.napolis at csueastbay.edu Wed Apr 21 11:54:50 2021 From: coco.napolis at csueastbay.edu (Coco Napolis) Date: Wed Apr 21 11:56:38 2021 Subject: [Athen] Publishers platforms and AT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Debee, Can you share the daisy webinar about this topic with me? I'll be following this thread as well. Usually if our alt text request is denied, we escalate and say the student uses specific AT/Reading support tools (e.g., Kurzweil) and that the Vitalsource or Redshelf materials are insufficient for their learning style. Most of the time I am able to get a file back. -- (Corazon) Coco Napolis IT Accessibility & Business Operations Specialist Information Technology Solutions Cal State East Bay (510) 885-3831 Direct Production Assistants: alternate.media@csueastbay.edu *"To receive much, Is to give much."* On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 11:17 AM Deborah Armstrong < armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu> wrote: > I ask this every quarter, but have their been any new developments in > tracking which AT works with which publisher-supplied ebook platforms? > > > > I am taking a class that uses a book that is available as an ebook on > VitalSource. I really like that platform for myself, but so so many of my > students complain about VitalSource, or Redshelf or the many other ebook > platforms that are publisher-specific. Pearson, Cengage, Wiley, McGrawHill > and McMillan all offer ebooks integrated with online labs or available on > their own platform when the student makes a purchase. > > > > When the publisher refuses to provide me a book, because it?s already > online and supposedly accessible, I can ask the student what AT they use, > but it still leaves me unclear whether the problem is the AT, the platform > or the student?s inability or unwillingness to learn to use the platform. > > > > I could really use some real data ? I know there was a daisy webinar about > it just this morning which I?ll watch ? but if I know for example that a > particular Wiley book works fine with Kurzweil?s read the web, then I can > just encourage the student to get more training which we have available. > But if I know it doesn?t work, then I can start arguing with the publisher. > > > > --Debee > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu Wed Apr 21 12:04:43 2021 From: Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu (Stager, Catherine) Date: Wed Apr 21 12:05:34 2021 Subject: [Athen] audio described graduation ceremony In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <07d8717a78ab496cbdd11d4fb01609de@frontrange.edu> Derek Featherstone?s short recent article (https://feather.ca/inclusion/describing/ Inclusive teaching: audio describing your own presentations) might be helpful if shared with anyone speaking or presenting at the ceremony As far as transcript examples: This example is pretty old, but http://accessproject.colostate.edu/udl/video/index.php has the transcript with audio descriptions (and an MP3) of the audio described version of the video we created. Also, the WCAG theme song by David MacDonald has a good example of AD transcript. https://www.davidmacd.com/wcag_theme_song.html Other ideas? You could use CADET to generate the script for AD, then use YouDescribe to post the synched audiodescribed version (http://ncamftp.wgbh.org/cadet/). ? You could host the video on a webpage (rather than on YouTube) using ABLE Player to either display the text AD or record a second audio track and attach to the video. ? From https://ableplayer.github.io/ableplayer/ ? ?Supports text-based audio description, also using WebVTT. At designated times, the description text is read aloud by browsers, or by screen readers for browsers that don?t support the Web Speech API. Users can optionally set their player to pause when audio description starts in order to avoid conflicts between the description and program audio. ? Supports audio description as a separate video. When two videos are available (one with description and one without), both can be delivered together using the same player and users can toggle between the versions.? Sounds like it will be an interesting project to work on! Best regards, Cath Catherine M. Stager Assistive Technology Specialist Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu (720) 336-1245 [Front Range Community College - Boulder County Campus] Disability Support Services - Assistive Technology Check out our Getting Started Guides for At Home Support! https://bit.ly/GettingStartedGuidesOverview https://bit.ly/GettingStartedAtHome From: athen-list On Behalf Of glen walker Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 10:43 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] audio described graduation ceremony CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Audio descriptions are typically needed if there's something being presented that is not vocalized. Do you have an example of what would need to be described for a commencement ceremony? If someone is speaking, then the audio of the speech itself is essentially the AD. A transcript of the speech is also helpful. But if one speaker introduces another speaker, is there anything to describe between the speakers? If part of the ceremony has a video presentation that just has music and no words, then that might need AD. I know you're asking *how* to handle AD and not *why* they're needed. The *why* should be somewhat irrelevant. I'm just trying to think of where AD would be needed in a commencement ceremony. On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 9:54 AM Christa Milller > wrote: Hi All, Our university commencement team has received a request to have an audio described commencement ceremony. Since the ceremony is being pre-recorded and then premiered on YouTube live, we are trying to find a set of supports that might work. First, we're considering a full transcript of the ceremony with the Audio Descriptions written in print. This would basically be an alternative access plan. To do that, we really need an example of what that would look like. If you have one and can send it to me at millerch@vt.edu, I would appreciate it. Second, we're considering if we can use YouDescribe to create the audio described version to share with the requesting individual. We're trying to find out if there are any hangups with our software acquisition and security offices. But for those of you who've used it, do you have recommendations on how to use it well? Third, is there a way to provide a separate audio track that could be provided directly to the user and just synced with the live premier? Thanks in advance, Christa Miller Virginia Tech millerch@vt.edu _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Usually if our alt text request is denied, we escalate and say the student uses specific AT/Reading support tools (e.g., Kurzweil) and that the Vitalsource or Redshelf materials are insufficient for their learning style. Most of the time I am able to get a file back. -- (Corazon) Coco Napolis IT Accessibility & Business Operations Specialist Information Technology Solutions Cal State East Bay (510) 885-3831 Direct Production Assistants: alternate.media@csueastbay.edu "To receive much, Is to give much." On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 11:17 AM Deborah Armstrong > wrote: I ask this every quarter, but have their been any new developments in tracking which AT works with which publisher-supplied ebook platforms? I am taking a class that uses a book that is available as an ebook on VitalSource. I really like that platform for myself, but so so many of my students complain about VitalSource, or Redshelf or the many other ebook platforms that are publisher-specific. Pearson, Cengage, Wiley, McGrawHill and McMillan all offer ebooks integrated with online labs or available on their own platform when the student makes a purchase. When the publisher refuses to provide me a book, because it?s already online and supposedly accessible, I can ask the student what AT they use, but it still leaves me unclear whether the problem is the AT, the platform or the student?s inability or unwillingness to learn to use the platform. I could really use some real data ? I know there was a daisy webinar about it just this morning which I?ll watch ? but if I know for example that a particular Wiley book works fine with Kurzweil?s read the web, then I can just encourage the student to get more training which we have available. But if I know it doesn?t work, then I can start arguing with the publisher. --Debee _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ~WRD3762.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 823 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kerscher at montana.com Wed Apr 21 12:19:05 2021 From: kerscher at montana.com (kerscher@montana.com) Date: Wed Apr 21 12:19:47 2021 Subject: [Athen] Publishers platforms and AT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007701d736e3$3276edd0$9764c970$@montana.com> Hi, We continue to update the grid on epubtest.org. VitalSource, RedShelf are maintained, and we know they plan to make updates and when they do, we will retest. If you send me the platforms you want tested, we can consider testing those platforms. The integrations with LMS is more difficult for us to test, and we need more people helping to test out with the various AT. Thorium is really working well (I use the continuous updated version) and we have the results up for NVDA, and I expect Jaws would be similar. However, Thorium will require an unprotected EPUB , probably from Bookshare or ATN. EBSCO and Fulcrum are also in the grid now, and we have the developers joining our reading system testing calls; it is great to see the developers there, and RedShelf, VitalSource, EBSCO, Fulcrum, and Thorium developers are frequent visitors. The DAISY webinar today was very good as an introduction (Deborah, you personally know everything about what we presented (grin), but others would benefit), and we plan a follow-up webinar about the methodology and go into detail on others. The Roundup is maintained and can be found at: https://inclusivepublishing.org/rs-accessibility/ We are starting to maintain short videos that show the various Reading Apps with specific AT so people can pick what works for them. I did a Thorium and NVDA, for example. We have Thorium with visual adjustments (low vision), and Read Aloud (Dyslexic and LD). We need to do a ton more. We also have the EPUB in Higher Ed working group (let me know if anybody wants to join), which is getting stronger and producing more materials to support the DSO folks. We really need to get the students to use the mainstream tech. Kurzweil says that support for EPUB is their current highest priority, which is great, and we all cannot wait to see what they have done. Text Help already has their updated EPUB reader out. Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 12:14 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Publishers platforms and AT I ask this every quarter, but have their been any new developments in tracking which AT works with which publisher-supplied ebook platforms? I am taking a class that uses a book that is available as an ebook on VitalSource. I really like that platform for myself, but so so many of my students complain about VitalSource, or Redshelf or the many other ebook platforms that are publisher-specific. Pearson, Cengage, Wiley, McGrawHill and McMillan all offer ebooks integrated with online labs or available on their own platform when the student makes a purchase. When the publisher refuses to provide me a book, because it's already online and supposedly accessible, I can ask the student what AT they use, but it still leaves me unclear whether the problem is the AT, the platform or the student's inability or unwillingness to learn to use the platform. I could really use some real data - I know there was a daisy webinar about it just this morning which I'll watch - but if I know for example that a particular Wiley book works fine with Kurzweil's read the web, then I can just encourage the student to get more training which we have available. But if I know it doesn't work, then I can start arguing with the publisher. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sarah.bourne at mass.gov Wed Apr 21 14:11:47 2021 From: sarah.bourne at mass.gov (Bourne, Sarah (MASSIT)) Date: Wed Apr 21 14:12:02 2021 Subject: [Athen] CommonLook and screen readers Message-ID: A friend has asked me if I know anybody that uses CommonLook for tagging PDFs who is a screen reader user. I don't, but perhaps one of you do? He's been using Acrobat, but there's a number of things he can't do (beyond things that require sight, such as seeing if color alone is being used to convey meaning, authoring alt text, etc.) and is wondering if CommonLook would be a worthwhile investment. Thank you! sb Sarah E. Bourne Director of IT Accessibility 1 Ashburton Place, 8th Floor, Boston, MA 02108 Office: (617) 626-4502 (messages only) sarah.bourne@mass.gov | www.mass.gov/eotss Executive Office of Technology Services and Security (EOTSS) EOTSS provides secure and quality digital information, services, and tools to constituents and service providers when and where they need them. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Thu Apr 22 08:14:44 2021 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Thu Apr 22 08:15:12 2021 Subject: [Athen] Slides to Word Message-ID: What's the current thinking on converting slide presentations - especially those with many images, to Word? Student has meteorology handouts in PDF that were originally slides. We're trying to find out now if they were created originally in PowerPoint, Keynote or Google slides - we cannot tell from the PDF files. Student can see the visual materials well, but prefers to read and annotate in Word. We need to correctly retain the visual elements while still making text that can be easily annotated and read with speech. I'd like to get the original slides and find a way to simply export them to Word without loosing any information. Meanwhile my student is opening the PDF files in K3000, but she's not a happy camper. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjordison at ccctechcenter.org Thu Apr 22 08:23:24 2021 From: sjordison at ccctechcenter.org (Shawn Jordison) Date: Thu Apr 22 08:23:50 2021 Subject: [Athen] Slides to Word In-Reply-To: References: <5c03ca9d3117587553411c1f9c94c13f@frontapp.com> Message-ID: <5c03ca9d3117587553411c1f9c94c13f@frontapp.com> My first guess would be to use ABBYY FineReader to convert the PDF to Word. You could set the settings to be exact copy and to keep images. It should retain all of the visual aspects of the document while providing the text too. - Shawn ? Shawn Jordison MS. Schedule a meeting with me 530-238-5645 Alternate Media and Assistive Technology Specialist CCC Accessibility Center --- original message --- On April 22, 2021, 8:14 AM PDT armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu wrote: What?s the current thinking on converting slide presentations ? especially those with many images, to Word? Student has meteorology handouts in PDF that were originally slides. We?re trying to find out now if they were created originally in PowerPoint, Keynote or Google slides ? we cannot tell from the PDF files. Student can see the visual materials well, but prefers to read and annotate in Word. We need to correctly retain the visual elements while still making text that can be easily annotated and read with speech. I?d like to get the original slides and find a way to simply export them to Word without loosing any information. Meanwhile my student is opening the PDF files in K3000, but she?s not a happy camper. --Debee --- end of original message --- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Thu Apr 22 08:23:23 2021 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Thu Apr 22 08:23:54 2021 Subject: [Athen] Slides to Word In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Debee. Actually, the PDFS are going to be sufficient, they just need to be run through OCR to make the text readable and turned into Word files. Abbyy would do a good job with this. PowerPoint would also be readable as well, and the student could use the notes function to annotate with if he would like. However, if he is insisting on Word, the conversion from Powerpoint to Word is not great. For whatever reason, PowerPoint does not really play nice with the other Office apps. I would suss out a little further exactly what the student is looking for and go from there. *Please note: I am currently working remotely, so can be reached by email.* Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 9:15 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Slides to Word What's the current thinking on converting slide presentations - especially those with many images, to Word? Student has meteorology handouts in PDF that were originally slides. We're trying to find out now if they were created originally in PowerPoint, Keynote or Google slides - we cannot tell from the PDF files. Student can see the visual materials well, but prefers to read and annotate in Word. We need to correctly retain the visual elements while still making text that can be easily annotated and read with speech. I'd like to get the original slides and find a way to simply export them to Word without loosing any information. Meanwhile my student is opening the PDF files in K3000, but she's not a happy camper. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8916 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu Thu Apr 22 09:32:24 2021 From: Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu (Stager, Catherine) Date: Thu Apr 22 09:32:40 2021 Subject: [Athen] Slides to Word In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Recently I tested sending a PPT that had content that would not show up in outline view to an Adobe PDF version. The PDF contained the text that would not have been exported if someone used Send to Word. Also worked with Save as PDF. This was a new development for me... it made all the text into actual text. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 9:23 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Slides to Word CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Hi Debee. Actually, the PDFS are going to be sufficient, they just need to be run through OCR to make the text readable and turned into Word files. Abbyy would do a good job with this. PowerPoint would also be readable as well, and the student could use the notes function to annotate with if he would like. However, if he is insisting on Word, the conversion from Powerpoint to Word is not great. For whatever reason, PowerPoint does not really play nice with the other Office apps. I would suss out a little further exactly what the student is looking for and go from there. *Please note: I am currently working remotely, so can be reached by email.* Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 9:15 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Slides to Word What's the current thinking on converting slide presentations - especially those with many images, to Word? Student has meteorology handouts in PDF that were originally slides. We're trying to find out now if they were created originally in PowerPoint, Keynote or Google slides - we cannot tell from the PDF files. Student can see the visual materials well, but prefers to read and annotate in Word. We need to correctly retain the visual elements while still making text that can be easily annotated and read with speech. I'd like to get the original slides and find a way to simply export them to Word without loosing any information. Meanwhile my student is opening the PDF files in K3000, but she's not a happy camper. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8916 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From smarositz at csudh.edu Thu Apr 22 11:21:06 2021 From: smarositz at csudh.edu (Stephen Marositz) Date: Thu Apr 22 11:21:39 2021 Subject: [Athen] CommonLook and screen readers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Sarah I last looked at CommonLook with a screen reader in 2019, and, at that time, it would not have been possible to remediate a PDF's tags with a screen reader or associate tooltips and the like. The problem is that a screen reader user can have focus on the tag structure and the original document simultaneously. CommonLook, from what I remember, replaces this process with sort of a tutorial-like step-through remediation process,. But, again, the screen reader cannot focus on that interface and the document at the same time so you have no idea what you are remediating. The best thing to do as a screen reader user is to re-OCR the document in to a format that can be remediated successfully, E.G. Word and export back to PDF when finished. I hope this helps. Alex Marositz J.D. ATAC Information Security and Compliance Office Information Technology California State University, Dominguez Hills E: smarositz@csudh.edu https://www.csudh.edu/it/security-compliance/ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Bourne, Sarah (MASSIT) Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 2:12 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] CommonLook and screen readers A friend has asked me if I know anybody that uses CommonLook for tagging PDFs who is a screen reader user. I don't, but perhaps one of you do? He's been using Acrobat, but there's a number of things he can't do (beyond things that require sight, such as seeing if color alone is being used to convey meaning, authoring alt text, etc.) and is wondering if CommonLook would be a worthwhile investment. Thank you! sb Sarah E. Bourne Director of IT Accessibility 1 Ashburton Place, 8th Floor, Boston, MA 02108 Office: (617) 626-4502 (messages only) sarah.bourne@mass.gov | www.mass.gov/eotss Executive Office of Technology Services and Security (EOTSS) EOTSS provides secure and quality digital information, services, and tools to constituents and service providers when and where they need them. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lydia at autistichoya.com Thu Apr 22 13:31:04 2021 From: lydia at autistichoya.com (Lydia X. Z. Brown) Date: Thu Apr 22 13:32:03 2021 Subject: [Athen] Tomorrow: Disability Justice & Crip Technoscience; Sunday: Disrupting Educational Ableism & Racism Message-ID: Tomorrow: Disability Justice & Crip Technoscience; Sunday: Disrupting Educational Ableism & Racism Public Service/Arc National Council of Self-Advocates Public Service/NLG Disability Justice Committee Lydia X. Z. Brown 4:30 PM (0 minutes ago) to Lydia, bcc: sds-discuss, bcc: ASA, bcc: Disability, bcc: NWSA, bcc: Disability, bcc: CUNY, bcc: Disability, bcc: DSSHE, bcc: PRO2PRO, bcc: Autistics, bcc: Disability, bcc: Disability, bcc: dream, bcc: Leadership, bcc: National, bcc: DIS-INT, bcc: Jennifer, bcc: DC, bcc: tupocc-members, bcc: vcialumni, bcc: Philosophia Please join the Autistic Women & Nonbinary Network for our free April #LiberatingWebinars programming Disability Justice & Crip Technoscience: Racism & Ableism in AI & the Future of Technology *Friday, 23 April 2021, at 5pm ET / 4pm CT / 2pm PT* Join AWN for a discussion with Damien Patrick Williams and Crystal Lee on disability justice interventions for racism and ableism in AI. RSVP for ?Disability Justice & Crip Technoscience: Racism & Ableism in AI & the Future of Technology? [image: Event banner shows a stock image of a city at night overlaid with icons representing a connected web of data. There are photos of two people. The first person is Damien, a Black man with a mohawk and glasses, stands indoors in front of two tall bookshelves full of books, one thin & red, one of wide untreated pine, and a large monitor with a printer and papers on the stand beneath it. He is wearing a black button up shirt, a red paisley tie, a light grey check suit jacket, and black jeans. The second person is Crystal Lee, a medium-skinned Asian woman with a pixie cut wearing a gray shirt and round eyeglasses with black frames. Trees and other greenery are behind her. The text says, Disability Justice & Crip Technoscience: Racism & Ableism in AI & the Future of Technology, 23 April 2021 at 5pm Eastern / 2pm Pacific. The corner shows the AWN logo - a large "a" with a dragonfly on it, and the words awnnetwork.org.] Artificial intelligence (AI) technologies are ubiquitous, affecting pretrial bail determinations, health care resource allocation, school admissions, credit reporting, hiring, and policing. For disabled people, technology has often both created and enabled greater access and also threatened to sever access while promoting eugenicist ideas about cures. What interventions do Disability Justice and the emergent field of crip technoscience (named first by Aimi Hamraie and Kelly Fritsch) make into conversations about AI and the future of technology? Where does ?algorithmic fairness? or ?algorithmic bias? fall short in addressing racism and ableism? Speakers Damien Patrick Williams is a PhD candidate in the Department of Science, Technology, and Society, at Virginia Tech. Damien researches how the values, knowledge systems, philosophies, social structures, religious beliefs, and lived experiences of humans can affect the creation and use of algorithms, machine intelligence, biotechnological interventions, and other technological systems and artifacts. More on Damien?s research can be found at A Future Worth Thinking About . 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RSVP for ?Disability Justice & Crip Technoscience: Racism & Ableism in AI & the Future of Technology? ------------------------------ Disrupting Educational Ableism & Racism: Disability, Race, & Trauma in Schools *Sunday, 25 April 2021, at 4pm ET / 3pm CT / 1pm PT* Join AWN for a discussion with Mahlet Meshesha and Jilisa Milton on disability, race, and trauma in schools. RSVP for ?Disrupting Educational Ableism & Racism: Disability, Race, & Trauma in Schools? [image: Event banner shows a photo of a school building in snow. There are photos of two people. The first person is Mahlet, a Black person with tight curly hair tied back, wearing a dark patterned shawl. The second person is Jilisa, a Black person with long thin dreads and glasses, wearing a turtleneck. The text says, Disrupting Educational Ableism & Racism: Disability, Race, & Trauma in Schools, 25 April 2021 at 4pm Eastern / 1pm Pacific. The corner shows the AWN logo - a large "a" with a dragonfly on it, and the words awnnetwork.org.] ?Schools and the legal system tend to label these children as disobedient, disorderly, and dis/abled while simultaneously ignoring the voices of the children themselves. This pathologization then is perpetuated through the labeling, surveillance, and punishment of unwanted students along with the silencing of their voices.? ? Subini Ancy Annamma, in *The Pedagogy of Pathologization: Dis/abled Girls of Color in the School-prison Nexus* For many disabled people, school is not a safe place. Instead, it is a place where we are subjected to coercive and involuntary treatment, isolation and bullying from peers, abuse in the name of help, and constant surveillance and criminalization ? all of which cause and exacerbate trauma. Black and Brown disabled students ? especially those who face additional vectors of marginalization ? face the brunt of ableism and racism in schools. 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She has nearly a decade of experience working at the intersection of racial equity, critical race & feminist theory, poverty, criminal justice reform, mental health, and reproductive justice. Ms. Milton currently practices law in Alabama, implementing a project in the Black Belt that protects children with disabilities from entering the school to prison pipeline, and ensures access to disability-related legal services and health services. Moderator Lydia X. Z. Brown is AWN?s Director of Policy, Advocacy, & External Affairs. RSVP for ?Disrupting Educational Ableism & Racism: Disability, Race, & Trauma in Schools? ------------------------------ Health Justice is Disability Justice: Disabled Perspectives in Public Health Research, Policy, & Advocacy *Wednesday, 28 April 2021, 5pm ET / 4pm CT / 2pm PT* Please join AWN for a discussion with Nassira D. Nicola and Emily M. Lund on disability justice and public health. RSVP for ?Health Justice is Disability Justice: Disabled Perspectives in Public Health Research, Policy, & Advocacy? [image: [Photo: Event banner shows a green smoothie and cut-open apple. There are photos of two people. The first person is Nassira, a fat Arab-American femme with light olive skin and dark hair, posing in front of a grey cubicle wall. She is wearing a charcoal-grey t-shirt, black cat's-eye glasses with swirls of translucent pink, and a gauzy salmon-pink scarf looped around her neck. Next to her scarf, her employee ID badge hangs from a yellow button with "challenge ableism" written in black. Her lipstick is an exact match for the color of her scarf, and her eyeshadow is the same color as the button. The second person is Emily, a white non-binary person with medium-length brown hair and glasses smiles at the camera. They are wearing a teal fleece shirt. The text says, Health Justice is Disability Justice: Disabled Perspectives in Public Health Research, Policy, & Advocacy, 28 April 2021 at 5pm Eastern / 2pm Pacific. The corner shows the AWN logo - a large "a" with a dragonfly on it, and the words awnnetwork.org.]] The COVID-19 pandemic helps reveal ableism in our laws, policies, and practices through health care rationing proposals, disastrous vaccine rollouts, and relief measures that have failed to assist disabled people impacted by loss of personal attendant care, forced to work in high-risk jobs, and disproportionately more likely to experience homelessness, domestic violence, and food insecurity. What do disabled advocates, scholars, and policy experts have to offer public health research, policy, and advocacy? How can disabled people?s knowledge, wisdom, and offerings disrupt and end unjust and inequitable pandemic policies and practices? Speakers Nassira D. Nicola is the lead Health and Disability Program Coordinator in the Office of Health Equity at the Massachusetts Department of Public Health. She has advised numerous programs within DPH, and across the country, on ways to learn from and include disabled people as both members of the public and colleagues. When not working (or when in long meetings), she can be found knitting piles of lace shawls and blankets for other people?s babies. Emily M. Lund , PhD, CRC, is an Assistant Professor of Counselor Education in the department of Educational Studies in Psychology, Research Methodology, and Counseling at the University of Alabama. Their primary research interests include interpersonal violence and trauma in people with disabilities; suicide and non-suicidal self-injury in people with disabilities; the experiences of graduate students with disabilities; and LGBTQ+ issues, particularly as they intersect with disability. Dr. Lund has published over 90 peer-reviewed articles and edited two books on these and similar topics. Their work emphasizes positive disability identity development, marginalization, intersectionality, and disability cultural competence. Moderator Lydia X. Z. Brown is AWN?s Director of Policy, Advocacy, & External Affairs. RSVP for ?Health Justice is Disability Justice: Disabled Perspectives in Public Health Research, Policy, & Advocacy? Please email questions to lbrown@awnnetwork.org. [Begin photo descriptions: Event banner shows a stock image of a city at night overlaid with icons representing a connected web of data. There are photos of two people. The first person is Damien, a Black man with a mohawk and glasses, stands indoors in front of two tall bookshelves full of books, one thin & red, one of wide untreated pine, and a large monitor with a printer and papers on the stand beneath it. He is wearing a black button up shirt, a red paisley tie, a light grey check suit jacket, and black jeans. The second person is Crystal Lee, a medium-skinned Asian woman with a pixie cut wearing a gray shirt and round eyeglasses with black frames. Trees and other greenery are behind her. The text says, Disability Justice & Crip Technoscience: Racism & Ableism in AI & the Future of Technology, 23 April 2021 at 5pm Eastern / 2pm Pacific. The corner shows the AWN logo - a large "a" with a dragonfly on it, and the words awnnetwork.org. Event banner shows a photo of a school building in snow. There are photos of two people. The first person is Mahlet, a Black person with tight curly hair tied back, wearing a dark patterned shawl. The second person is Jilisa, a Black person with long thin dreads and glasses, wearing a turtleneck. The text says, Disrupting Educational Ableism & Racism: Disability, Race, & Trauma in Schools, 25 April 2021 at 4pm Eastern / 1pm Pacific. The corner shows the AWN logo - a large "a" with a dragonfly on it, and the words awnnetwork.org. Event banner shows a green smoothie and cut-open apple. There are photos of two people. The first person is Nassira, a fat Arab-American femme with light olive skin and dark hair, posing in front of a grey cubicle wall. She is wearing a charcoal-grey t-shirt, black cat's-eye glasses with swirls of translucent pink, and a gauzy salmon-pink scarf looped around her neck. Next to her scarf, her employee ID badge hangs from a yellow button with "challenge ableism" written in black. Her lipstick is an exact match for the color of her scarf, and her eyeshadow is the same color as the button. The second person is Emily, a white non-binary person with medium-length brown hair and glasses smiles at the camera. They are wearing a teal fleece shirt. The text says, Health Justice is Disability Justice: Disabled Perspectives in Public Health Research, Policy, & Advocacy, 28 April 2021 at 5pm Eastern / 2pm Pacific. The corner shows the AWN logo - a large "a" with a dragonfly on it, and the words awnnetwork.org. /end photo descriptions] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dandrews920 at comcast.net Sun Apr 25 16:58:45 2021 From: dandrews920 at comcast.net (David Andrews) Date: Sun Apr 25 16:59:32 2021 Subject: [Athen] CommonLook and screen readers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There is woman who is a PDF guru, her name is Karen McCall and I think she said it was accessible -- although I have never used it myself. Dave At 04:11 PM 4/21/2021, you wrote: >Content-Language: en-US >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > >boundary="_000_SA1PR09MB7472DD37A3B97D27EDAAD3B4E0479SA1PR09MB7472namp_" > >A friend has asked me if I know anybody that uses CommonLook for >tagging PDFs who is a screen reader user. I don't, but perhaps one >of you do? He's been using Acrobat, but there's a number of things >he can't do (beyond things that require sight, such as seeing if >color alone is being used to convey meaning, authoring alt text, >etc.) and is wondering if CommonLook would be a worthwhile investment. > > > >Thank you! > >sb > >Sarah E. Bourne > >Director of IT Accessibility > >1 Ashburton Place, 8th Floor, Boston, MA 02108 > >Office: (617) 626-4502 (messages only) > >sarah.bourne@mass.gov | www.mass.gov/eotss > >Executive Office of Technology Services and Security (EOTSS) > >EOTSS provides secure and quality digital information, services, and tools >to constituents and service providers when and where they need them. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gwynette.hall at wisc.edu Mon Apr 26 06:38:51 2021 From: gwynette.hall at wisc.edu (GWYNETTE HALL) Date: Mon Apr 26 06:39:13 2021 Subject: [Athen] =?windows-1252?q?Position_Opening_=96_Accessibility_Learn?= =?windows-1252?q?ing_Technology_Coordinator_=96_UW-Madison?= Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, The McBurney Disability Resource Center at the University of Wisconsin ? Madison is seeking a dedicated professional to join our Adaptive Technology (AT) Team as an Accessible Learning Technology Coordinator (ALTC) this summer. Our mission to lead the campus forward in access guides our daily work in classroom accommodations as well as our big picture work to create an inclusive campus environment for all. We are looking for a versatile candidate who has a commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusion. This position will take a lead role in the daily workflow and management of notetaking accommodations, including peer notetaking, notetaking technology (smartpens, mobile, and desktop apps), along with, being cross-trained in other AT areas. The AT Team is responsible for the provision of a number of student accommodations and related technology, including alternative formats, notetaking/smartpens, classroom furniture, media captioning, and support of remote captioning/interpreting. We provide access and strategies for an ever-increasing number of students in a continuously evolving field of instruction and technology. The non-traditional title of this position reflects the blend of disability, assistive technology, digital accessibility, instructional technology, and direct service knowledge in higher education that our ALTCs apply in their daily work. Please share this job posting with your networks. https://jobs.hr.wisc.edu/en-us/job/508957/accessible-learning-technology-coordinator Applications close on May 23, 2021 at 11:55pm (CT) We value the contributions of each person and respect the profound ways their identity, culture, background, experience, status, abilities, and opinion enrich the university community. We commit ourselves to the pursuit of excellence in teaching, research, outreach, and diversity as inextricably linked goals. Sincerely, Gwynette ______________ Gwynette Hall She/Her/Hers McBurney Disability Resource Center Student Affairs University of Wisconsin-Madison 608-263-2741 (Voice-Front desk) 608-225-7956 (Text-Front desk) 608-265-2998 (FAX) www.mcburney.wisc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 07:27:16 2021 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Tue Apr 27 07:28:02 2021 Subject: [Athen] O&M training Message-ID: Hello folks, Do any of your institutions covering orientation and mobility training for students who are blind and don't have any rehab services? Thanks for any input you might have! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT *she, her, hers* Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 07:36:12 2021 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Tue Apr 27 07:36:45 2021 Subject: [Athen] O&M training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8AA4910D-30FC-42B3-B2F3-9BEE6813A22C@gmail.com> We have four things like for credit field experiences and we also have when there has been significant changes to the main buildings of our campus through new construction. Typically for incoming New students we have not. we have done less formal orientation for those students and have not had specific request for full training from an O&M instructor. Best regards, Jeff Cleveland State Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. > On Apr 27, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Heidi Scher wrote: > > ? > Hello folks, > > Do any of your institutions covering orientation and mobility training for students who are blind and don't have any rehab services? > > Thanks for any input you might have! > > Heidi > > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director - AT > she, her, hers > Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas > 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 phone > 479.575.7445 fax > +++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justinr at disability.tamu.edu Tue Apr 27 07:39:15 2021 From: justinr at disability.tamu.edu (Romack, Justin) Date: Tue Apr 27 07:40:03 2021 Subject: [Athen] O&M training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Howdy Heidi! Justin from Texas A&M here. We do not provide this kind of training. Admittedly, our state rehab agency has traditionally been very good about getting O&M services for our blind/VI students ? and most of them are consumers with them. We do have a blindness-related student org that will also provide peer-based mobility tips and advice. Honestly, I love having students share their input with other blind students because they are the ones who have had to problem solve and have learned the little tricks to accessibly navigating our big campus. That said, I, myself, am blind and try to share feedback as I can. We also have another staff member, one of our Ads, who?s been with the institution for quite a while and has done some informal O&M as issues crop up. Love that you asked this, though, because I?m always curious how other institutions work through these processes. Hoping you?re well! Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission From: athen-list On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 9:27 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] O&M training Hello folks, Do any of your institutions covering orientation and mobility training for students who are blind and don't have any rehab services? Thanks for any input you might have! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eileenberger33 at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 08:31:50 2021 From: eileenberger33 at gmail.com (Eileen Berger) Date: Tue Apr 27 08:32:21 2021 Subject: [Athen] O&M training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Friends Would you agree that all students with vision impairments are unique? Specifics of documentation, history of mobility competencies and observation as well as in interactive consultation with the student would determine the access issues and needs for O&M training especially when the campus and services are new to the student. Some students who become disoriented easily and whose kinesthetic memory is a weakness will need O&M at critical intervals to learn pathways while others may need initial O&M and will find strategies, social competencies and communication skills to manage to have ongoing access to programs, events and services. Eileen Berger emerita HGSE On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:30 AM Heidi Scher wrote: > Hello folks, > > Do any of your institutions covering orientation and mobility training for > students who are blind and don't have any rehab services? > > Thanks for any input you might have! > > Heidi > > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director - AT > *she, her, hers* > Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas > 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 phone > 479.575.7445 fax > +++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT *she, her, hers* Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:32 AM Eileen Berger wrote: > Friends > Would you agree that all students with vision impairments are unique? > Specifics of documentation, history of mobility competencies and > observation as well as in interactive consultation with the student would > determine the access issues and needs for O&M training especially when the > campus and services are new to the student. Some students who become > disoriented easily and whose kinesthetic memory is a weakness will need O&M > at critical intervals to learn pathways while others may need initial O&M > and will find strategies, social competencies and communication skills to > manage to have ongoing access to programs, events and services. > Eileen Berger emerita HGSE > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:30 AM Heidi Scher wrote: > >> Hello folks, >> >> Do any of your institutions covering orientation and mobility training >> for students who are blind and don't have any rehab services? >> >> Thanks for any input you might have! >> >> Heidi >> >> >> +++++++++++++++ >> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC >> Associate Director - AT >> *she, her, hers* >> Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas >> 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 >> Fayetteville, AR 72701 >> 479.575.3104 phone >> 479.575.7445 fax >> +++++++++++++++ >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This position will take a lead role in the daily workflow and management of notetaking accommodations, including peer notetaking, notetaking technology (smartpens, mobile, and desktop apps), along with, being cross-trained in other AT areas. The AT Team is responsible for the provision of a number of student accommodations and related technology, including alternative formats, notetaking/smartpens, classroom furniture, media captioning, and support of remote captioning/interpreting. We provide access and strategies for an ever-increasing number of students in a continuously evolving field of instruction and technology. The non-traditional title of this position reflects the blend of disability, assistive technology, digital accessibility, instructional technology, and direct service knowledge in higher education that our ALTCs apply in their daily work. 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Message-ID: I have worked with the following person at McGraw Hill regarding the Connect Platform: Lisa Nicks, CPACC Manager, Accessibility McGraw Hill | Higher Education P: 563-584-6672 | C: 563-599-0450 lisa.nicks@mheducation.com mheducation.com HTH- Cyndi Cyndi Yurkovich Assistive Technology Manager Disability Support Services Office of Institutional Equity, Diversity and Inclusion 240 Academy Street |? Alison Hall, Suite 130 |? Newark, DE 19716 Phone: 302-831-4643? |? Fax: 302-831-3261? cyurko@udel.edu -----Original Message----- From: athen-list On Behalf Of athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:01 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 183, Issue 20 Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman12.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. O&M training (Heidi Scher) 2. Re: O&M training (Jeffrey Dell) 3. Re: O&M training (Romack, Justin) 4. Re: O&M training (Eileen Berger) 5. Anyone have a good contact for McGraw Hill? (Susan Kelmer) 6. Re: O&M training (Heidi Scher) 7. Madison: UW Madison, McBurney Disability Resource Center hiring Accessible Learning Technology Coordinator (Lydia X. Z. Brown) 8. Call for Proposals - ATHEN Virtual Conference 2021! (ATHEN President) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 09:27:16 -0500 From: Heidi Scher To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] O&M training Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello folks, Do any of your institutions covering orientation and mobility training for students who are blind and don't have any rehab services? Thanks for any input you might have! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT *she, her, hers* Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 10:36:12 -0400 From: Jeffrey Dell To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] O&M training Message-ID: <8AA4910D-30FC-42B3-B2F3-9BEE6813A22C@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" We have four things like for credit field experiences and we also have when there has been significant changes to the main buildings of our campus through new construction. Typically for incoming New students we have not. we have done less formal orientation for those students and have not had specific request for full training from an O&M instructor. Best regards, Jeff Cleveland State Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. > On Apr 27, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Heidi Scher wrote: > > ? > Hello folks, > > Do any of your institutions covering orientation and mobility training for students who are blind and don't have any rehab services? > > Thanks for any input you might have! > > Heidi > > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director - AT > she, her, hers > Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas > 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 phone > 479.575.7445 fax > +++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 14:39:15 +0000 From: "Romack, Justin" To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] O&M training Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Howdy Heidi! Justin from Texas A&M here. We do not provide this kind of training. Admittedly, our state rehab agency has traditionally been very good about getting O&M services for our blind/VI students ? and most of them are consumers with them. We do have a blindness-related student org that will also provide peer-based mobility tips and advice. Honestly, I love having students share their input with other blind students because they are the ones who have had to problem solve and have learned the little tricks to accessibly navigating our big campus. That said, I, myself, am blind and try to share feedback as I can. We also have another staff member, one of our Ads, who?s been with the institution for quite a while and has done some informal O&M as issues crop up. Love that you asked this, though, because I?m always curious how other institutions work through these processes. Hoping you?re well! Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission From: athen-list On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 9:27 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] O&M training Hello folks, Do any of your institutions covering orientation and mobility training for students who are blind and don't have any rehab services? Thanks for any input you might have! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 11:31:50 -0400 From: Eileen Berger To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] O&M training Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Friends Would you agree that all students with vision impairments are unique? Specifics of documentation, history of mobility competencies and observation as well as in interactive consultation with the student would determine the access issues and needs for O&M training especially when the campus and services are new to the student. Some students who become disoriented easily and whose kinesthetic memory is a weakness will need O&M at critical intervals to learn pathways while others may need initial O&M and will find strategies, social competencies and communication skills to manage to have ongoing access to programs, events and services. Eileen Berger emerita HGSE On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:30 AM Heidi Scher wrote: > Hello folks, > > Do any of your institutions covering orientation and mobility training > for students who are blind and don't have any rehab services? > > Thanks for any input you might have! > > Heidi > > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director - AT > *she, her, hers* > Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas > 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 phone > 479.575.7445 fax > +++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT *she, her, hers* Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:32 AM Eileen Berger wrote: > Friends > Would you agree that all students with vision impairments are unique? > Specifics of documentation, history of mobility competencies and > observation as well as in interactive consultation with the student > would determine the access issues and needs for O&M training > especially when the campus and services are new to the student. Some > students who become disoriented easily and whose kinesthetic memory is > a weakness will need O&M at critical intervals to learn pathways while > others may need initial O&M and will find strategies, social > competencies and communication skills to manage to have ongoing access to programs, events and services. > Eileen Berger emerita HGSE > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:30 AM Heidi Scher wrote: > >> Hello folks, >> >> Do any of your institutions covering orientation and mobility >> training for students who are blind and don't have any rehab services? >> >> Thanks for any input you might have! >> >> Heidi >> >> >> +++++++++++++++ >> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC >> Associate Director - AT >> *she, her, hers* >> Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas >> 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 >> Fayetteville, AR 72701 >> 479.575.3104 phone >> 479.575.7445 fax >> +++++++++++++++ >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This position will take a lead role in the daily workflow and management of notetaking accommodations, including peer notetaking, notetaking technology (smartpens, mobile, and desktop apps), along with, being cross-trained in other AT areas. The AT Team is responsible for the provision of a number of student accommodations and related technology, including alternative formats, notetaking/smartpens, classroom furniture, media captioning, and support of remote captioning/interpreting. We provide access and strategies for an ever-increasing number of students in a continuously evolving field of instruction and technology. The non-traditional title of this position reflects the blend of disability, assistive technology, digital accessibility, instructional technology, and direct service knowledge in higher education that our ALTCs apply in their daily work. 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Because of our size I have been able to develop relationships with our students and whenever a need arises discuss with them what they would like trained on, when to do it, how to do it, etc. The only thing that has been a bit of a struggle is scheduling training during times where spaces are not heavily occupied so the student can feel comfortable exploring as they wish. I am also not trained in O & M, so I rely on the students to tell me how they want to go about it. Everything from where they want to start to what information they want about the space came directly from them. Has anyone here used Beacons to convey information to their blind students? I pushed for these this past year as a way to give directional information and other Covid changes that were visual cues but wasn't able to get it approved. I am considering trying again for fall.This article gives a decent overview of how beacons can be used, although it's a bit outdated. Wayfindr is current and has lots of awesome information on the more technical aspects of beacons. Warmly, Amy --- Amy Robasse, MA Coordinator of Disability Services Working Remotely - Schedule your virtual appointment -----> Want to connect with other students with disabilities? Email me for our Zoom chat info! 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URL: From hunziker at arizona.edu Tue Apr 27 17:13:35 2021 From: hunziker at arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Tue Apr 27 17:14:09 2021 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] SPSS and JAWS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Marie, I?m currently working with a student who is using JAWS and SPSS. The graduate student is exploring on their own (pretty strong technical skills) however we meet periodically to go over items that are unclear. I believe this student is also working with colleagues to ask questions as well. I think it depends on what the instructor will expect the student to do in SPSS too ? I believe we ran into some things that were difficult to access but I can?t remember exactly what the function was. I would be prepared with a technical assistant and perhaps have the student looking/playing with SPSS over the summer so they have some experience before class? Did you find the online resources for SPSS and JAWS access? Dawn Dawn Hunziker IT Accessibility Consultant, Sr. | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Marie Tizon Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 7:10 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [EXT][Athen] SPSS and JAWS External Email Hi Everyone, I have a blind student in a Psychology Masters program and she will be taking a Statistics course in the Fall where she is required to work on SPSS. The student has already spoken to one of the professors teaching the course and everything is based on using SPSS. Can someone provide me with more information about the accessibility or inaccessibility of SPSS with JAWS? In what ways is it accessible or inaccessible? Can it be resolved aside from assigning an assistant to the student? My student was hoping to use R instead of SPSS but I don't think that is an option. Has anyone experienced this before? I am open to recommendations and suggestions on the best way we can assist and accommodate my student. Best regards, Marie -- Marie Tizon (Pronouns: she, her, hers) Assistant Director - Disability Resource Center Phone: 973-655-7475 Email: tizonm@montclair.edu For intake appointments, please use my You Can Book Me page. All other appointments, you may email me directly. Please do not send any documentation via fax. You may email documentation to drc@montclair.edu. [Montclair State University] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smarositz at csudh.edu Wed Apr 28 08:36:14 2021 From: smarositz at csudh.edu (Stephen Marositz) Date: Wed Apr 28 08:36:39 2021 Subject: [Athen] [External] O&M training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Heidi I worked on this as a grant funded project at my previous institution (a community college) so I am interested in your thoughts. The idea was to provide some number of ours of O&M instruction within the first 2 weeks or so of the start of the semester with a focus on-campus and surrounding streets and public transportation stops. 2 points in favor: * Equity, international/undocumented students, as well as those who do not qualify for rehabilitation services because of "an ability to benefit in terms of an employment outcome in an integrated setting." * Risk management: Safe, confident travel means fewer injuries on campus, particularly in an urban setting. I might also add that timing of the training is of the essence. Typically, securing O&M services for students who do qualify, is somewhat lengthy. Students do not know their course schedules with room assignments until just before the start of the term in many cases. This doesn't even account for last-minute room assignment changes, or the student's need to alter their schedule. Offering O&M increases access for all students with visual impairments. Points against * One thing that's difficult is finding qualified O&M specialists to work part-time and, as you said, within the student's schedule. * If O&M is considered a personal service then it is outside the bounds of something the institution can provide. I hope this helps. Alex Marositz J.D. ATAC Information Security and Compliance Office Information Technology California State University, Dominguez Hills E: smarositz@csudh.edu https://www.csudh.edu/it/security-compliance/ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Amy Robasse Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 1:25 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [External] O&M training I am from a small college, and while we do not have a formal policy, I have done some O & M with our blind students. Because of our size I have been able to develop relationships with our students and whenever a need arises discuss with them what they would like trained on, when to do it, how to do it, etc. The only thing that has been a bit of a struggle is scheduling training during times where spaces are not heavily occupied so the student can feel comfortable exploring as they wish. I am also not trained in O & M, so I rely on the students to tell me how they want to go about it. Everything from where they want to start to what information they want about the space came directly from them. Has anyone here used Beacons to convey information to their blind students? I pushed for these this past year as a way to give directional information and other Covid changes that were visual cues but wasn't able to get it approved. I am considering trying again for fall.This article gives a decent overview of how beacons can be used, although it's a bit outdated. Wayfindr is current and has lots of awesome information on the more technical aspects of beacons. Warmly, Amy --- [Image removed by sender.] Amy Robasse, MA Coordinator of Disability Services Working Remotely - Schedule your virtual appointment -----> Want to connect with other students with disabilities? Email me for our Zoom chat info! On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 9:32 AM Heidi Scher > wrote: Hello folks, Do any of your institutions covering orientation and mobility training for students who are blind and don't have any rehab services? Thanks for any input you might have! 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Dawn Dawn Hunziker Assistant Director, Digital and Physical Access | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of ATHEN President Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 5:50 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT][Athen] New deadline - 2021 Teresa Haven Scholarship for Students with Disabilities External Email Good evening, everyone, We did not receive any completed applications for the Teresa Haven Students with Disabilities scholarship. So, in order to be fair for everyone, we are extending the deadline - please send in applications by May 7th, 2021. If you are working with a student who may have one of the incomplete applications, please follow up with them! If you were thinking of a student to nominate and didn't get to it for one reason or another, you have another opportunity! If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out. As a reminder, all scholarship details can be found on ATHEN's Teresa Haven Scholarship page. Dawn Hunziker ATHEN President ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: ATHEN President > Date: Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 6:01 PM Subject: 2021 Teresa Haven Scholarship for Students with Disabilities To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Hello ATHEN Members, ATHEN is happy to announce that the 2021 Teresa Haven Scholarship for Students with Disabilities is now open for nominations and applications. More information, including scholarship criteria and submission links, can be found on ATHEN's Teresa Haven Scholarship page. Teresa Haven, Ph.D., was a long-time ATHEN contributor and member of the Executive Council. She was a passionate advocate for student equity and diversity in higher education. 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The position coordinates assistive and learning technologies for students with disabilities at Rutgers and provides alternative format textbooks and course materials that work with the student?s individual technology needs at all Rutgers campuses. Among the key duties of this position are the following: * Meets individually with students registered with the Office of Disability Services to evaluate the needs related to technological requirements and provides interventions and solutions for accessing course information, technologies and resources. * Works with instructors, faculty, disability services personnel and students to determine potential accessibility obstacles related to coursework and determine appropriate reasonable accommodations and technology to address these barriers. * Responsible for working with the campus community as needed to recommend appropriate hardware and software for student use. * Responsible for maintenance and inventory of equipment. * Recommends upgrades and updates for equipment software and hardware. * Maintains status reports of textbook conversions. * Keeps accurate records of projects. * Ensures reasonable accommodation processes are timely and effective. * Trains students with disabilities on equipment software, hardware, applications and technologies and training of student workers on the scanning of textbook and materials. 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I would love to see someone who has more accessibility experience in this position, so I'm sharing here. Email me at millerch@vt.edu if you have questions. Best, Christa Christa Miller TLOS: Accessible Technologies Access Specialist (https://careers.pageuppeople.com/968/cw/en-us/job/515858?lApplicationSubSourceID=11250) Job no: 515858 Work type: Administrative & Professional Senior management: Vice President for Student Affairs Department: Services for Students w/Disabil. Location: Blacksburg Area Categories: Student Affairs / Services Job Description Services for Students with Disabilities (SSD) assists the university with its mission of promoting students? academic success, personal growth, and development of life skills. SSD works to ensure that students with disabilities receive equal access to curricular and co-curricular opportunities in the university community, in compliance with Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 and the Americans with Disabilities Amendments Act of 2008. Reporting to the associate director, the Access Specialist serves as a full-time administrative/professional faculty member. The access specialist provides direct services to students and families seeking information on disability resources, coordinates the interactive process for reasonable accommodation requests, and assist with office tasks. The Access Specialist must demonstrate a commitment to equity, knowledge about disability services, and appreciation for human diversity. Core Responsibilities: Maintain a caseload to include direct services, reviewing documentation, establishing eligibility, determining appropriate student accommodations, assisting with problem solving, and communicating among faculty, staff, parents and students. Independently and collaboratively determine reasonable accommodations for students in university programs in a clear, well-documented, timely, and effective manner. Ensure and assist with the implementation of accommodations such as note taking, alternate text requests, furniture coordination and accommodated exams. Maintain accurate records. Collaborate with campus partners and coordinate SSD participation in the Workforce Recruitment Program Participate in the continued development and refinement of SSD operations Required Qualifications The successful candidate will possess: Bachelor?s degree and/or equivalent amount of experience working in disability services in higher education. Experience communicating effectively with multiple stakeholders Experience working in the field of disability services, rehabilitation services, higher education, social work, etc. Strong organizational skills to effectively manage multiple requests and competing deadlines Preferred Qualifications Experience providing individual and/or small group instruction to students Demonstrated ability convey complex technical information to both technical and non-technical audiences. Appointment Type Regular Review Date May 5, 2021 Additional Information Student Affairs at Virginia Tech fosters a community where each student creates a customized experience to meet their goals. Building on our motto of Ut Prosim (that I may serve), Virginia Tech is dedicated to serving in the spirit of community, diversity, and excellence. We seek candidate who adopt and practice our Principles of Community, which are fundamental to our ongoing efforts to increase access and inclusion and to create a community that nurtures learning and growth. We are actively seeking people to join our community and help us prepare leaders for the world. Our people in Student Affairs are committed to student well-being and assuring that all students Experience VT by demonstrating, supporting, and operationalizing our Aspirations for Student Learning. If you are someone dedicated to ensuring student success, then we want you to consider being a part of our team! The successful Candidate will be required to have a criminal conviction check About Virginia Tech Dedicated to its motto, Ut Prosim (That I May Serve), Virginia Tech pushes the boundaries of knowledge by taking a hands-on, transdisciplinary approach to preparing scholars to be leaders and problem-solvers. 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Advertised: April 20, 2021 Applications close: Open until filled From jpolizzotto at berkeley.edu Fri Apr 30 15:53:14 2021 From: jpolizzotto at berkeley.edu (Joseph Polizzotto MA) Date: Fri Apr 30 15:54:25 2021 Subject: [Athen] Inline Images and PDF Tags Message-ID: Hi Everyone: I encountered a problem when converting an MS Word document with inline images using Adobe Acrobat Pro's plug-in for MS Word. The problem is that the inline images appear in the incorrect place within the PDF tags panel. Specifically, the
tags for the inline images are located *after* the entire

tag with which they are associated. Instead of the MS Word paragraph being broken up into separate chunks of content within the

PDF tag, the paragraph is contained as one block of text inside the

tag and the inline images are represented as

tags after that block. For example, in the following snippet of an MS Word document, where P and V are inline images in the sentence: [image: image.png] alt=Boyle's law (where P is the pressure and V is the volume) I find the following structure in the PDF tags panel:

Boyle's law (where is the pressure and is the volume)

P
V If I remove the tags and add them back using Adobe Acrobat Pro, the
tags will be in the correct place, in between the correct blocks of text, but the alternative text for the images will be lost. This is the desired tag structure:

Boyle's law (where

P is the pressure and
V is the volume What have you done to address this issue? Is there a way to avoid having to remediate the PDF tags for this issue and get the correct tag order for inline images when using Adobe Acrobat Pro's plug-in for MS Word? Note: I am using my MS Word's 365 (subscription) version with the continuous release version of Adobe Acrobat Pro (2021). I have attached the documents as well. Thanks for your help, Joseph -- *Alternate Media Supervisor* Disabled Students' Program University of California, Berkeley https://dsp.berkeley.edu/ (510) 642-0329 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: key equations_pdf.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 34143 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: key equations_pdf.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 123326 bytes Desc: not available URL: From steve.green at testpartners.co.uk Fri Apr 30 16:11:29 2021 From: steve.green at testpartners.co.uk (Steve Green) Date: Fri Apr 30 16:12:29 2021 Subject: [Athen] Inline Images and PDF Tags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It?s strange that you should post this message now, because literally one minute ago I sent a lengthy email to all our staff explaining why they must not use Adobe Acrobat Pro's plug-in for MS Word for creating PDFs. One of the reasons is that it does not seem to recognise the ?Mark as decorative? checkbox in Word?s Alt Text pane, and it adds bizarre Alternate Text such as P1070TB2#y1. Another issue relates to the use of simple text boxes in Word. Although we discourage their use, there are times that you want or need to use them. You can put images in the textbox, which can potentially cause a problem because you can add Alt Text to both the image and the textbox. If you do that, the Acrobat Accessibility Checker reports a failure due to nested Alternate Text, which is perfectly reasonable ? you can?t have Alt Text inside other Alt Text. The ?solution? is to mark the text box as decorative and only add Alt Text to the image. If you ?Save as PDF?, this does exactly what you would expect. The image is in the Tags panel with its Alternate Text. The text box is artifacted. You might expect the Adobe Acrobat Pro plug-in to do the same, or at least do something intelligent, but it doesn?t do either of those. It puts both the image and text box in the Tags panel. As discussed above, it adds random Alternate Text to the text box. It then deletes the Alt Text you added to the image, and to add insult to injury, the Acrobat Accessibility Checker fails because of the missing Alternate Text! I have also noticed the sort of issues you reported. For the time being, my recommendation is to use Word?s ?Save as PDF? feature instead. BTW, all the images were missing from your email. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd From: athen-list On Behalf Of Joseph Polizzotto MA Sent: 30 April 2021 23:53 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Inline Images and PDF Tags Hi Everyone: I encountered a problem when converting an MS Word document with inline images using Adobe Acrobat Pro's plug-in for MS Word. The problem is that the inline images appear in the incorrect place within the PDF tags panel. Specifically, the
tags for the inline images are located after the entire

tag with which they are associated. Instead of the MS Word paragraph being broken up into separate chunks of content within the

PDF tag, the paragraph is contained as one block of text inside the

tag and the inline images are represented as

tags after that block. For example, in the following snippet of an MS Word document, where P and V are inline images in the sentence: [cid:ii_ko4v44pm0] alt=Boyle's law (where P is the pressure and V is the volume) I find the following structure in the PDF tags panel:

Boyle's law (where is the pressure and is the volume)

P
V If I remove the tags and add them back using Adobe Acrobat Pro, the
tags will be in the correct place, in between the correct blocks of text, but the alternative text for the images will be lost. This is the desired tag structure:

Boyle's law (where

P is the pressure and
V is the volume What have you done to address this issue? Is there a way to avoid having to remediate the PDF tags for this issue and get the correct tag order for inline images when using Adobe Acrobat Pro's plug-in for MS Word? Note: I am using my MS Word's 365 (subscription) version with the continuous release version of Adobe Acrobat Pro (2021). I have attached the documents as well. Thanks for your help, Joseph -- Alternate Media Supervisor Disabled Students' Program University of California, Berkeley https://dsp.berkeley.edu/ (510) 642-0329 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpolizzotto at berkeley.edu Fri Apr 30 16:52:31 2021 From: jpolizzotto at berkeley.edu (Joseph Polizzotto MA) Date: Fri Apr 30 16:53:28 2021 Subject: [Athen] Inline Images and PDF Tags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Steve: Thanks for your response and for letting me know about the missing image. That image displayed the following screenshot of text in a DOCX file: Boyle's law (where (P is the pressure and V is the volume) Well, that's really interesting and good to know about general issues with the Adobe Acrobat Pro plug-in for MS Word. I will keep that in mind. FWIW, I have tried just using the Save As > PDF route in MS Word to circumvent the issue that I described but it does not resolve it. Using the Save As > PDF method, there is a difference in how the tags are created from the MS Word elements but the
tags for the inline images are still not in the correct place; with the Save As PDF method, in fact, they also come after the associated

tag but are not nested within the

tag, which is the case with the Adobe Acrobat Pro conversion method. In both cases, remediation would be time-consuming. What's interesting is that with both conversion methods, if I delete the root tag and then add tags to the document in Adobe Acrobat Pro, the

elements are in the right place related to the

tag, just that the alternative text is missing. It's as if the Adobe Acrobat Pro's "add tags" feature does a better job of tagging from within than when it first ingests the DOCX through the MS Word conversion suite. I am not sure why that is and would be even willing to delete all the tags, only to add them back, if it also meant that the alternative text would automagically reappear again. :-) Joseph On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 4:13 PM Steve Green wrote: > It?s strange that you should post this message now, because literally one > minute ago I sent a lengthy email to all our staff explaining why they must > not use Adobe Acrobat Pro's plug-in for MS Word for creating PDFs. > > > > One of the reasons is that it does not seem to recognise the ?Mark as > decorative? checkbox in Word?s Alt Text pane, and it adds bizarre Alternate > Text such as P1070TB2#y1. > > > > Another issue relates to the use of simple text boxes in Word. Although we > discourage their use, there are times that you want or need to use them. > You can put images in the textbox, which can potentially cause a problem > because you can add Alt Text to both the image and the textbox. If you do > that, the Acrobat Accessibility Checker reports a failure due to nested > Alternate Text, which is perfectly reasonable ? you can?t have Alt Text > inside other Alt Text. > > > > The ?solution? is to mark the text box as decorative and only add Alt Text > to the image. If you ?Save as PDF?, this does exactly what you would > expect. The image is in the Tags panel with its Alternate Text. The text > box is artifacted. > > > > You might expect the Adobe Acrobat Pro plug-in to do the same, or at least > do something intelligent, but it doesn?t do either of those. It puts both > the image and text box in the Tags panel. As discussed above, it adds > random Alternate Text to the text box. It then deletes the Alt Text you > added to the image, and to add insult to injury, the Acrobat Accessibility > Checker fails because of the missing Alternate Text! > > > > I have also noticed the sort of issues you reported. > > > > For the time being, my recommendation is to use Word?s ?Save as PDF? > feature instead. > > > > BTW, all the images were missing from your email. > > > > Steve Green > > Managing Director > > Test Partners Ltd > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Joseph Polizzotto MA > *Sent:* 30 April 2021 23:53 > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] Inline Images and PDF Tags > > > > Hi Everyone: > > > > I encountered a problem when converting an MS Word document with inline > images using Adobe Acrobat Pro's plug-in for MS Word. > > > > The problem is that the inline images appear in the incorrect place within > the PDF tags panel. Specifically, the

tags for the inline images > are located *after* the entire

tag with which they are associated. > > > > Instead of the MS Word paragraph being broken up into separate chunks of > content within the

PDF tag, the paragraph is contained as one block of > text inside the

tag and the inline images are represented as

> tags after that block. > > > > For example, in the following snippet of an MS Word document, where P and > V are inline images in the sentence: > > > > alt=Boyle's law (where P is the pressure and V is the volume) > > > > I find the following structure in the PDF tags panel: > > > >

> > Boyle's law (where is the pressure and is the volume) > >

> > P > >
> > V > > > > If I remove the tags and add them back using Adobe Acrobat Pro, the >
tags will be in the correct place, in between the correct blocks > of text, but the alternative text for the images will be lost. > > > > This is the desired tag structure: > > > >

> > Boyle's law (where > >

> > P > > is the pressure and > >
> > V > > is the volume > > > > What have you done to address this issue? Is there a way to avoid having > to remediate the PDF tags for this issue and get the correct tag order for > inline images when using Adobe Acrobat Pro's plug-in for MS Word? > > > > Note: I am using my MS Word's 365 (subscription) version with the > continuous release version of Adobe Acrobat Pro (2021). I have attached the > documents as well. > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > Joseph > > > > -- > > *Alternate Media Supervisor* > > Disabled Students' Program > > University of California, Berkeley > > https://dsp.berkeley.edu/ > > > (510) 642-0329 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- *Alternate Media Supervisor* Disabled Students' Program University of California, Berkeley https://dsp.berkeley.edu/ (510) 642-0329 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve.green at testpartners.co.uk Fri Apr 30 18:12:43 2021 From: steve.green at testpartners.co.uk (Steve Green) Date: Fri Apr 30 18:13:29 2021 Subject: [Athen] Inline Images and PDF Tags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Welcome to the weird world of accessible PDFs. I see the same issue as you, and I have no idea how to fix it in the Word document. It?s strange that Acrobat does a better job of tagging. In my experience, that?s rarely the case. But with accessible PDFs, there?s an exception to every rule. Steve From: athen-list On Behalf Of Joseph Polizzotto MA Sent: 01 May 2021 00:53 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Inline Images and PDF Tags Hi Steve: Thanks for your response and for letting me know about the missing image. That image displayed the following screenshot of text in a DOCX file: Boyle's law (where (P is the pressure and V is the volume) Well, that's really interesting and good to know about general issues with the Adobe Acrobat Pro plug-in for MS Word. I will keep that in mind. FWIW, I have tried just using the Save As > PDF route in MS Word to circumvent the issue that I described but it does not resolve it. Using the Save As > PDF method, there is a difference in how the tags are created from the MS Word elements but the
tags for the inline images are still not in the correct place; with the Save As PDF method, in fact, they also come after the associated

tag but are not nested within the

tag, which is the case with the Adobe Acrobat Pro conversion method. In both cases, remediation would be time-consuming. What's interesting is that with both conversion methods, if I delete the root tag and then add tags to the document in Adobe Acrobat Pro, the

elements are in the right place related to the

tag, just that the alternative text is missing. It's as if the Adobe Acrobat Pro's "add tags" feature does a better job of tagging from within than when it first ingests the DOCX through the MS Word conversion suite. I am not sure why that is and would be even willing to delete all the tags, only to add them back, if it also meant that the alternative text would automagically reappear again. :-) Joseph On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 4:13 PM Steve Green > wrote: It?s strange that you should post this message now, because literally one minute ago I sent a lengthy email to all our staff explaining why they must not use Adobe Acrobat Pro's plug-in for MS Word for creating PDFs. One of the reasons is that it does not seem to recognise the ?Mark as decorative? checkbox in Word?s Alt Text pane, and it adds bizarre Alternate Text such as P1070TB2#y1. Another issue relates to the use of simple text boxes in Word. Although we discourage their use, there are times that you want or need to use them. You can put images in the textbox, which can potentially cause a problem because you can add Alt Text to both the image and the textbox. If you do that, the Acrobat Accessibility Checker reports a failure due to nested Alternate Text, which is perfectly reasonable ? you can?t have Alt Text inside other Alt Text. The ?solution? is to mark the text box as decorative and only add Alt Text to the image. If you ?Save as PDF?, this does exactly what you would expect. The image is in the Tags panel with its Alternate Text. The text box is artifacted. You might expect the Adobe Acrobat Pro plug-in to do the same, or at least do something intelligent, but it doesn?t do either of those. It puts both the image and text box in the Tags panel. As discussed above, it adds random Alternate Text to the text box. It then deletes the Alt Text you added to the image, and to add insult to injury, the Acrobat Accessibility Checker fails because of the missing Alternate Text! I have also noticed the sort of issues you reported. For the time being, my recommendation is to use Word?s ?Save as PDF? feature instead. BTW, all the images were missing from your email. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Joseph Polizzotto MA Sent: 30 April 2021 23:53 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Inline Images and PDF Tags Hi Everyone: I encountered a problem when converting an MS Word document with inline images using Adobe Acrobat Pro's plug-in for MS Word. The problem is that the inline images appear in the incorrect place within the PDF tags panel. Specifically, the

tags for the inline images are located after the entire

tag with which they are associated. Instead of the MS Word paragraph being broken up into separate chunks of content within the

PDF tag, the paragraph is contained as one block of text inside the

tag and the inline images are represented as

tags after that block. For example, in the following snippet of an MS Word document, where P and V are inline images in the sentence: alt=Boyle's law (where P is the pressure and V is the volume) I find the following structure in the PDF tags panel:

Boyle's law (where is the pressure and is the volume)

P
V If I remove the tags and add them back using Adobe Acrobat Pro, the
tags will be in the correct place, in between the correct blocks of text, but the alternative text for the images will be lost. This is the desired tag structure:

Boyle's law (where

P is the pressure and
V is the volume What have you done to address this issue? Is there a way to avoid having to remediate the PDF tags for this issue and get the correct tag order for inline images when using Adobe Acrobat Pro's plug-in for MS Word? Note: I am using my MS Word's 365 (subscription) version with the continuous release version of Adobe Acrobat Pro (2021). I have attached the documents as well. Thanks for your help, Joseph -- Alternate Media Supervisor Disabled Students' Program University of California, Berkeley https://dsp.berkeley.edu/ (510) 642-0329 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Alternate Media Supervisor Disabled Students' Program University of California, Berkeley https://dsp.berkeley.edu/ (510) 642-0329 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phil at d4k.ca Fri Apr 30 19:26:21 2021 From: phil at d4k.ca (Philip Kiff) Date: Fri Apr 30 19:26:29 2021 Subject: [Athen] Inline Images and PDF Tags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I tried a couple things in the files you sent but I couldn't get the tag order to generate correctly either: not from the Adobe Acrobat Pro DC generator nor from the built-in Microsoft Word 365 generator. Just as an FYI, when I used the axesPDF for Word plugin, the order *did* come out correctly. And I would bet that it would also come out correctly using the CommonLook Office plugin (thought I don't have that one to test). The Microsoft built-in PDF generator has been getting better and better these past few years, but generally speaking, both the axesPDF and CommonLook products do a much better job producing an accessible, correctly formatted PDF directly from a well-formatted Word source. Phil. Philip Kiff D4K Communications On 2021-04-30 21:12, Steve Green wrote: > > Welcome to the weird world of accessible PDFs. I see the same issue as > you, and I have no idea how to fix it in the Word document. > > It?s strange that Acrobat does a better job of tagging. In my > experience, that?s rarely the case. But with accessible PDFs, there?s > an exception to every rule. > > Steve > > *From:*athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Joseph Polizzotto MA > *Sent:* 01 May 2021 00:53 > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Inline Images and PDF Tags > > Hi Steve: > > Thanks for your response and for letting me know about the missing > image. That image displayed the following screenshot of text in a DOCX > file: > > Boyle's law (where (P is the pressure and V is the volume) > > Well, that's really interesting and good to know about general issues > with the Adobe Acrobat Pro plug-in for MS Word. I will keep that in mind. > > FWIW, I have tried just using the Save As > PDF route in MS Word to > circumvent the issue that I described but it does not resolve it. > > Using the Save As > PDF method, there is a difference in how the tags > are created from the MS Word elements but the
tags for the > inline images are still not in the correct place; with the Save As PDF > method, in fact, they also come after the associated

tag but are > not nested within the

tag, which is the case with the Adobe > Acrobat Pro conversion method. In both cases, remediation would be > time-consuming. > > What's interesting is that with both conversion methods, if I delete > the root tag and then add tags to the document in Adobe Acrobat Pro, > the

elements are in the right place related to the

tag, > just that the alternative text is missing. It's as if the Adobe > Acrobat Pro's "add tags" feature does a better job of tagging from > within than when it first ingests the DOCX through the MS Word > conversion suite. > > I am not sure why that is and would be even willing to delete all the > tags, only to add them back, if it also meant that the alternative > text would automagically reappear again. :-) > > Joseph > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 4:13 PM Steve Green > > wrote: > > It?s strange that you should post this message now, because > literally one minute ago I sent a lengthy email to all our staff > explaining why they must not use Adobe Acrobat Pro's plug-in?for > MS Word for creating PDFs. > > One of the reasons is that it does not seem to recognise the ?Mark > as decorative? checkbox in Word?s Alt Text pane, and it adds > bizarre Alternate Text such as P1070TB2#y1. > > Another issue relates to the use of simple text boxes in Word. > Although we discourage their use, there are times that you want or > need to use them. You can put images in the textbox, which can > potentially cause a problem because you can add Alt Text to both > the image and the textbox. If you do that, the Acrobat > Accessibility Checker reports a failure due to nested Alternate > Text, which is perfectly reasonable ? you can?t have Alt Text > inside other Alt Text. > > The ?solution? is to mark the text box as decorative and only add > Alt Text to the image. If you ?Save as PDF?, this does exactly > what you would expect. The image is in the Tags panel with its > Alternate Text. The text box is artifacted. > > You might expect the Adobe Acrobat Pro plug-in to do the same, or > at least do something intelligent, but it doesn?t do either of > those. It puts both the image and text box in the Tags panel. As > discussed above, it adds random Alternate Text to the text box. It > then deletes the Alt Text you added to the image, and to add > insult to injury, the Acrobat Accessibility Checker fails because > of the missing Alternate Text! > > I have also noticed the sort of issues you reported. > > For the time being, my recommendation is to use Word?s ?Save as > PDF? feature instead. > > BTW, all the images were missing from your email. > > Steve Green > > Managing Director > > Test Partners Ltd > > *From:*athen-list > *On Behalf > Of *Joseph Polizzotto MA > *Sent:* 30 April 2021 23:53 > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network > > > *Subject:* [Athen] Inline Images and PDF Tags > > Hi Everyone: > > I encountered a problem when converting an MS Word document with > inline images using Adobe Acrobat Pro's plug-in?for MS Word. > > The problem is that the inline images appear in the incorrect > place within the PDF tags panel. Specifically, the

tags > for the inline images are located /after/ the entire

tag with > which they are associated. > > Instead of the MS Word paragraph being broken up into separate > chunks of content within the

PDF tag, the paragraph is > contained as one block of text inside the

tag and the inline > images are represented?as

tags after that block. > > For example, in the following snippet of an MS Word document, > where P and V are inline images in the sentence: > > alt=Boyle's law (where P?is the pressure and V?is the volume) > > I find the following structure in the PDF tags panel: > >

> > Boyle's law (where is the pressure and is the volume) > >

> > P > >
> > V > > If I remove the tags and add them back using Adobe Acrobat Pro, > the
tags will be in the correct place, in between the > correct blocks of text, but the alternative text for the images > will be lost. > > This is the desired tag structure: > >

> > Boyle's law (where > >

> > P > > is the pressure and > >
> > V > > is the volume > > What have you done to address this issue? Is there a way to avoid > having to remediate the PDF tags for this issue and get the > correct tag order for inline images when using Adobe Acrobat Pro's > plug-in for MS Word? > > Note: I am using my MS Word's 365 (subscription) version with the > continuous release version of Adobe Acrobat Pro (2021). I have > attached the documents as well. > > Thanks for your help, > > Joseph > > -- > > *Alternate Media Supervisor* > > Disabled Students' Program > > University of California, Berkeley > > https://dsp.berkeley.edu/ > > > (510) 642-0329 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: